< 1301702439 252611 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I would rename defun 'addfun'. < 1301702447 95328 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes Lisp FUN! < 1301702474 548407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Links (or any of its variants) at all usable? do the missing features get irksome? < 1301702552 238932 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconmaster: Is there some command in Lisp to rename commands? If there is, then you can use that in your own programs, maybe. < 1301702673 286532 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301702688 903894 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: IDK, I haven't gotten that far in my Lisp book i'm reading. I bet it's there, though. I actually dont know much Lisp. < 1301702811 131328 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there is < 1301702835 919799 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ. < 1301702844 981991 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, it was probably the first language to have a complete meta-programming language built in. < 1301702872 907435 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/io failed < 1301702893 504387 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1301703145 944103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi variable < 1301703159 517745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : is Links (or any of its variants) at all usable? do the missing features get irksome? < 1301703167 429159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more usable than lynx, less usable than anything else. < 1301703177 685496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elinks supports slightly more than links I think, but most people seem to prefer links. < 1301703178 426094 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301703183 224298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also links has that graphical mode that can even work on the framebuffer. < 1301703292 466002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :my real question is "can it run gmail right" < 1301703324 269857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha. < 1301703327 622034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you mean the javascript version? < 1301703330 397767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahahaha < 1301703343 880227 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know links and variants support js < 1301703349 381169 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know which versions < 1301703352 208664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. no. < 1301703356 339949 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the latest variants < 1301703359 346738 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only telephone in all of hell (local calls only, please). < 1301703363 555737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :links' js engine was removed IIRC < 1301703366 866856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it was unsalvagably shit < 1301703376 344456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why don't you want to use a graphical browser, anyway < 1301703379 696248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or gmail's html version < 1301703394 328474 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, i'd give the latter a shot < 1301703399 826822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : quintopia: why don't you want to use a graphical browser, anyway < 1301703411 72695 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to use a mouse < 1301703416 239703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: conkeror. vimperator < 1301703425 337388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :both much easier to use w/ kb than links < 1301703432 274344 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah? < 1301703437 291028 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do tell < 1301703438 192013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering they're designed for it, yes. < 1301703452 744496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :conkeror if you want emacs. vimperator if you want vim. < 1301703455 518358 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't require me to memorize thousands of keyboard shortcuts do they? < 1301703464 417418 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want it to be obvious which keys do what < 1301703466 449640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try a dozen. < 1301703476 57143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a key is just a single letter. it is impossible for it to be self-documenting. < 1301703478 108819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want dry water. < 1301703492 206648 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it can be obvious < 1301703503 387449 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the way irssi maps keys to windows < 1301703512 136875 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes perfect intuitive sense < 1301703515 836328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. so that's a single numerical selection done. < 1301703518 939603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can only have one of them < 1301703521 894464 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have to be self-documenting, jsut intuitive < 1301703524 514169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not in any way generalise. < 1301703537 83143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :intuitive is another word for familiar. you are evidently new to these kinds of browsers. < 1301703544 965590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus apart from the common subset shared with editors, it cannot be intuitive. < 1301703549 542387 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are not the same thing < 1301703554 186309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they really are < 1301703564 672471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.asktog.com/papers/raskinintuit.html < 1301703568 169447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :intuitive equals familiar. < 1301703582 228641 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they are similar concepts, but not the same < 1301703587 282208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are the same. < 1301703591 168057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: anyway, if you actually want it, learning a dozen or so keys is trivially a sunk cost. < 1301703604 231326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use a browser often, it would be difficult for them not to stick. < 1301703605 915932 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :intuitive means "there is a ready metaphor for mapping the new ideas to familiar ones" < 1301703613 969261 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have to already be familiar in themselves < 1301703625 841936 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah a dozen doesn't sound bad < 1301703632 660964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://www.asktog.com/papers/raskinintuit.html < 1301703638 575562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :intuitive equals familiar. < 1301703641 955236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there is a ready metaphor ..." = familiar. < 1301703653 361680 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you keep citing that page when i've already told you i disagree with it < 1301703667 218668 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i disagree with your use of "equals" < 1301703686 980225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because you responded instantly and therefore have not read it < 1301703693 428297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or you would have responded, "I've read that before") < 1301703743 872531 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very long. shall i go read it and come back and tell you whether i've changed my mind about disagreeing of your self-proclaimed summary of it? < 1301703745 205804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jef raskin is(/was) pretty much the god of human-computer interaction, so the article is well worth reading < 1301703756 265469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes. also, my summary is in fact the title. < 1301703770 711196 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is < 1301703774 264280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really expect you'll change your mind as people rarely do, at least not immediately, but *shrug* < 1301703783 217681 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i agree with a paper when i disagree with its title? < 1301703843 439776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many people will disagree vehemently when they hear "Property is theft!" and on further consideration of Proudhon's words, agree? < 1301703847 17962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say significantly more than zero. < 1301703858 880706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article is to convince you that the title means something, and that that meaning is true < 1301703881 828599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are expected, therefore, to have an open mind about the topic in question for the duration of reading and mentally processing the article. this is how things work, I think. < 1301703987 219965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come ooon, bitcoins! get mined! < 1301703991 113214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO CLOSE TO 0.01 < 1301704013 952514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omfgg my gpu sucks hard < 1301704021 296777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting like 5.6 megahashes/sec < 1301704029 67362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people with real graphics cards get >300 < 1301704059 362336 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can agree with the part where it says "intuitive = uses readily transferred, existing skills." that's almost exactly what i said earlier. < 1301704097 275686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: then what is your definition of familiar < 1301704098 363921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:19:35: elliott, why do you want to do befunge93? Besides how many fingerprints did you do in your last befunge98 implementation? And did you publish the source anywhere? < 1301704108 586979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I wanted to do befunge-93 because I dunno, I felt like I could get it fast. < 1301704134 335752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: < 1301704135 97735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[~/Code/shiro/Shiro/Fingerprints]% l *.hs < 1301704135 269612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOL.hs DIRF.hs EVAR.hs FILE.hs FING.hs MODU.hs NULL.hs REFC.hs ROMA.hs < 1301704139 96612 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1301704146 474625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One of those is incomplete; I forget which.) < 1301704150 362515 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hope it don't die next time you move to another computer < 1301704158 584906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could easily add more, but I'm waiting on a monadic epiphany to reduce code clutter. < 1301704162 163276 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :familiar means basically "automatic" in my mind. muscle memory. no remapping is needed, because you've done this before, you've got this. < 1301704169 431242 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, thus I hope you uploaded the source somewhere < 1301704183 674824 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how else could it get into mycology? < 1301704187 357073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It still passes Mycology in less than a second. < 1301704197 312685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that would be quicker were I not running that miner. Maybe. < 1301704199 509798 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yep. And? < 1301704203 771969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not. < 1301704210 834840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's "known" < 1301704214 904012 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, miner? Err? < 1301704241 471993 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes. i would agree with familiar=known < 1301704248 455057 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301704255 515412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: re: another computer, it won't. < 1301704265 933980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I haven't uploaded it yet but I will do once I restructure it and add enough to run slowdown.b98. < 1301704272 810217 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301704284 546725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I'll replace the fungespace with that one I was considering to make that go quickly. < 1301704290 873947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by how else could it get into Mycology? < 1301704293 812377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: miner - bitcoins. < 1301704320 37387 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301704328 981405 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Deewiant's style of funge space? Or your own? < 1301704346 492980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the one Deewiant has now or the one Deewiant wishes he had (k-d tree)? < 1301704360 449406 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, either actually < 1301704378 391243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planning on a bounding volume hierarchy type thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounding_volume_hierarchy), because a random Stack Overflow comment said it was usually lighter-weight than k-d trees. Also I /msg'd Deewiant about it and he said it might be suitable. :p < 1301704381 714638 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, besides wasn't k-d to organise the boxes or such? < 1301704393 440729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. But "the boxes" are just flat arrays. < 1301704397 767338 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1301704408 308081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might go with a quadtree in-between because it's easy. < 1301704413 987508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think that'd help with slowdown, much. < 1301704448 72759 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301704453 142570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, I'm pretty happy with Shiro as it is; it passes Mycology with flying colours, and quickly; it doesn't leak memory (that I know of); etc. < 1301704463 421920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's still less than 4000 lines last I checked. < 1301704468 405231 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, tried valgrind on it? < 1301704469 717233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Including fingerprints.) < 1301704473 89956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Uh. It's Haskell. < 1301704480 197492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't think it'd like the GC. < 1301704485 619500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Or anything. < 1301704495 596833 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, valgrind can manage with some GCs. It doesn't crash for all... < 1301704507 320967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is shiro now a complete impl of b98? < 1301704510 106631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can >/dev/null with valgrind, right? < 1301704512 945141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it prints to stderr? < 1301704514 983760 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, For example, with python's GC it just spews errors, instead of crashing. < 1301704519 959572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's been a complete impl since about day three or four :P < 1301704523 790990 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think valgrind goes to stderr yes < 1301704527 513853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe even late day two. < 1301704550 647659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, valgrind sure does slow a program down. < 1301704551 765529 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, more like mid-morning day three < 1301704555 563089 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1301704567 974846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, whatever. Early on :) < 1301704575 68565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, I should probably do --leak-check=full? < 1301704579 217916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it printed no errors, just summaries. < 1301704582 407505 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but anyway, it wouldn't have been that fast without the constant help of Deewiant < 1301704583 499754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It "suppressed" 4 from 4, though. < 1301704601 268431 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, suppressed is about stuff in libc. < 1301704601 982417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, actually, after I figured out how profiling works most of the optimisation was me. < 1301704605 3364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from that one stupid function. < 1301704616 535099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was the *compliance* that Deewiant helped shitloads with :P < 1301704625 629682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know how profiling works, I mean, I just didn't know how to get GHC to do it.) < 1301704631 196177 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, like, strlen optimised because it knows it can access invalid memory as long as it doesn't cross a page boundary < 1301704633 785457 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of stuff < 1301704652 526137 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : It was the *compliance* that Deewiant helped shitloads with :P <-- that is what I meant < 1301704660 504664 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I meant fast, as in fast development < 1301704669 159582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1301704669 334746 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fast as in fast execution < 1301704692 640112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, see, Deewiant is the only person who knows the details of Deewiantfunge-98, which is the language that every Mycology-compliant interpreter implements :P < 1301704712 485805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :==18138== 98,964 (384 direct, 98,580 indirect) bytes in 3 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 16 of 16 < 1301704712 687134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :==18138== at 0x4C2815C: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:236) < 1301704712 687323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :==18138== by 0x593FAE2: __gconv_open (gconv_open.c:197) < 1301704712 687433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :==18138== by 0x593F5F1: iconv_open (iconv_open.c:72) < 1301704712 687540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :==18138== by 0x4AA0C4: ??? (in /home/elliott/Code/shiro/shiro) < 1301704722 482984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno what that's about. (With --leak-check=full.) < 1301704728 119166 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1301704728 489153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway: ==18138== Reachable blocks (those to which a pointer was found) are not shown. < 1301704733 173830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure the GC keeps a pointer to things. < 1301704740 857227 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1301704757 180137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm also pretty sure that garbage can be left un-freed if they escape the GC. Say it's conservative, or the program ends before it gets GC'd. < 1301704762 344973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wouldn't trust valgrind much here. < 1301704765 164349 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, "Deewiantfunge-98" is one of the saner interpretations of the confusing standard. As far as I know the only direct contradiction he makes towards the standard is making t actually work. < 1301704777 616492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: also y's interpretation of bounds < 1301704787 888870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you consider the statement that something is useful for something else bound by sanity and taking precedence over the previous line < 1301704794 271815 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Nope. The standard contradict itself there. < 1301704797 640792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1301704802 287525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just doesn't use the same definition of useful as you < 1301704806 789109 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, It is said to be suitable iirc? < 1301704811 82514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "useful" < 1301704813 588016 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... < 1301704818 317489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's in italics, and written informally, which makes me question its normativity < 1301704826 188217 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, should ask cpressy next time he shows up < 1301704827 187573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even if you accept it, you have to assume "useful" is used sanely < 1301704837 12602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and binding the Funge-98 standard to sanity is a bad idea :-D < 1301704839 632811 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, come on, the whole standard is written pretty informally :P < 1301704851 353987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: re: cpressey: I think he's heard enough about Funge-98 for one lifetime :P < 1301704858 945264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And seems to know the spec less well than we do. < 1301704860 56457 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm true < 1301704865 577049 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1301704866 132601 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: as i recall, there was still a major bug past day 7 which prevented it from being called an implementation at all < 1301704877 138587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Which bug...? < 1301704886 364707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean the "o" thing, yes, that took a little while to fix. < 1301704890 470828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's pretty minor. < 1301704891 409403 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :o is optional? < 1301704894 723423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1301704898 931433 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what o thing btw? < 1301704902 643531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: text mode, I think. < 1301704908 35608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I implemented o but did it a bit wrongly, because I hadn't bothered to get it right yet. < 1301704910 721210 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes that one is a PITA < 1301704914 306403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since o is optional, I could flip one bit and everything would be fine :P < 1301704919 320664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in y, and also make o reflect) < 1301704931 804048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and i too I guess < 1301704945 268040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, running slowdown and running fungot are the priorities, in that order. but it's still pending on me figuring out a nice way to express the maybe stacks. < 1301704945 937228 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and are you really interested or are you just rather stuck as to what the point is that using your own macros. at least not for implementing scheme? < 1301704951 191820 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, text and binary more in i and o don't correspond at all in functionality :P < 1301704959 370094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: truth. < 1301704959 533450 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: allocate to that result ( i.e., he's probably devoting much more time < 1301704961 553659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: *mode < 1301704967 667510 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1301704996 659410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think rcfunge is now completely unmaintained < 1301705000 171595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :last release april 2010 by susan < 1301705010 20987 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :likely < 1301705010 391823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that cfunge has had a more recent release, admitteldy < 1301705011 687493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*admittedly < 1301705022 346924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you ever implement that O(1) wrapping? < 1301705035 809665 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm nope, forget. Will look at it this weekend. < 1301705056 745183 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and then probably get a release out some day soon. The code is pretty stable nowdays. < 1301705064 589178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cheated with that one, spawned a new thread to look into the trivial problem rather than devoting brain cells to it < 1301705074 817266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka: asked my reading-mathematics friend) < 1301705086 849342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just to give him a taste of what his degree will go towards!) < 1301705090 199747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(being bugged with trivialities!) < 1301705096 399110 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait what? I don't get the context of that line " i cheated with that one, [...]" < 1301705103 235027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the O(1) wrapping < 1301705105 630006 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1301705119 750000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reading is the Posh(tm) term for studying, before you ask < 1301705123 728625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, getting-a-degree-in < 1301705130 947464 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what math friend? oerjan? < 1301705140 709321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. not someone in this channel < 1301705143 723966 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1301705149 426841 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what's wrong with oerjan? < 1301705150 775736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think oerjan's mathematics got read quite some time ago :D < 1301705157 376542 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's true < 1301705158 727473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i don't trust him to actually do work :D < 1301705172 463744 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you mean he will tell you to do it yourself? < 1301705180 215697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, he'll just sulk off. < 1301705183 162349 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301705214 646930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I used System.Posix.Env rather than foreign. < 1301705215 943600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how loser of me. < 1301705241 186636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :class (Show fp, Typeable fp, < 1301705241 371450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Typeable (FPGlobalState fp), < 1301705241 575680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Typeable (FPIPState fp), < 1301705241 741505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Show (FPGlobalState fp), < 1301705241 741688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Show (FPIPState fp)) => < 1301705241 906572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Fingerprint fp where < 1301705245 554316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1301705258 402908 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, I used System.Posix.Env rather than foreign. <-- why is that an issue? < 1301705288 487908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows! < 1301705302 936327 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1301706134 542844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, multics was written in a (relatively) HLL (for the 60s) < 1301706175 415493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, PL/I it seems < 1301706590 828077 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: i don't trust him to actually do work :D <-- YOU ARE WISE BEYOND YOUR YEARS. well, sometimes. < 1301706737 699050 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone in this channel said before that draws occur 50% in cricket. I suppose one way to make draws occur less often is to make the rules changed a bit during the last half hour of play. < 1301706783 121687 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, do we have someone who actually understand the rules of cricket in here? < 1301706800 816422 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was impossible unless you played it < 1301706821 529121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't even watch it < 1301706829 854402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the word "forum" for a BBS dates back to the 60s (multics) < 1301706853 274940 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@2001:4428:251:1:21f:16ff:fe68:a55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301706862 106964 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@2001:4428:251:1:21f:16ff:fe68:a55 QUIT :Changing host < 1301706862 272506 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1301706867 624115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, could be 70s < 1301706869 518209 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It isn't impossible. It is just a bit difficult. < 1301706995 506710 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, ... ... ... I suggest you look up hyperbole in a dictionary. < 1301707092 58475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, multics has similarities to my system < 1301707096 866986 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1301707102 103902 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1301707117 579074 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What similarities? < 1301707132 677276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :many < 1301707179 235301 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a few? < 1301707247 722456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fs/ram unification, use of paging, use of REPL as shell... < 1301707251 164447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"502 Bad Gateway" --mining.bitcoin.cz < 1301707253 606952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like the sound of that, nginx < 1301707386 666135 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please tell me what REPL means? < 1301707820 102853 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301708008 393272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Read-Eval-Print-Loop. < 1301708024 450821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define (repl) (display (eval (read))) (newline) (repl)) ;; an example (minimal) REPL in scheme < 1301708039 589401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, a prompt that lets you input program snippets, have them evaluated, and see the result. < 1301708050 9849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interactive shell is this for the language sh < 1301708098 27255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, algol 68 called a procedure printf. wonder if it does the same as c printf. < 1301708141 715294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, well kinda < 1301708147 90249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a variadic print procedure < 1301708151 546272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1301708153 898949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf (($2l"The sum is:"x, g(0)$, m + n)); ¢ prints the same as: ¢ < 1301708154 104013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :print ((new line, new line, "The sum is:", space, whole (m + n, 0)) < 1301708222 964068 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org NICK :libc\x2Eso < 1301708236 612908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it at now -- $5,000? Hit your limit yet? < 1301708254 461916 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to discuss it in this channel. < 1301708268 179726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1301708315 93105 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301708795 634039 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301708950 86973 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301709016 477132 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301709781 442590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:07:15: -!- Sgeo has quit (Quit: IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ.). < 1301709781 643558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:12:58: -!- Sgeo has joined #esoteric. < 1301709786 614025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's a record time for finding christ < 1301709800 411869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could enter the christianlympics < 1301709906 111738 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's addquotable :P < 1301709927 642692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION CACKLES EVILLY AS HE PLACES HIS $5,000 BID < 1301709935 272233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES IT WAS ME ALL ALONG < 1301709941 614907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION CACKLES SOME MORE < 1301709962 143523 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote 00:07:15: -!- Sgeo has quit (Quit: IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ.). 00:12:58: -!- Sgeo has joined #esoteric. < 1301709964 762661 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you won't addquote it :P < 1301709964 927829 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :344) 00:07:15: -!- Sgeo has quit (Quit: IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ.). 00:12:58: -!- Sgeo has joined #esoteric. < 1301709978 925413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 344 < 1301709979 884096 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof* < 1301709987 697702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reformatting) < 1301709988 151881 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... why? < 1301709990 21472 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1301710012 121654 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see when I said that the baker should support s/// lines? >: ) < 1301710013 306154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote 00:07 Sgeo has quit (IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ.) 00:12 Sgeo has joined #esoteric. < 1301710015 41281 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :344) 00:07 Sgeo has quit (IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ.) 00:12 Sgeo has joined #esoteric. < 1301710026 363795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes there's inconsistency wrt quit vs joined formatting, yes it looks better this way :P) < 1301710027 135124 :wawawareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com NICK :wareya < 1301710032 663994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: X_X < 1301710038 629393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: I was gonna do a client plugin for that once :P < 1301710286 686980 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1301710302 903780 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1301710306 519609 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for the delayed reply < 1301710311 531232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said something? < 1301710312 827294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1301710329 37747 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi variable < 1301710332 517184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1301710334 181658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1301710336 33538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i say anything else < 1301710339 202057 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1301710342 510962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1301710347 64872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder what i was gonna say!!!! < 1301710365 879192 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw: what about w3m vs links? < 1301710372 576560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you just joined < 1301710378 200746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: right. i like w3m a lot. < 1301710382 715731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't really similar to links though. < 1301710388 691521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :w3m is more like lynx that doesn't suck < 1301710394 122155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :links is more like a graphical browser rendered to a tty < 1301710417 374551 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What we need is e.g. a WebKit backend for curses. < 1301710420 20298 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be weird. < 1301710424 276875 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would be the best text browser. < 1301710441 646064 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: no. A Presto backend < 1301710467 546788 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Good luck with convincing Opera :P < 1301710487 266950 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301710495 331715 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :best april fools joke today: "The GNOME Project is a community which comes together to make great software. " < 1301710509 366163 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 QUIT :Quit: I wish I had something witty to put here... < 1301710521 67836 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: fine, find, Trident < 1301710526 77793 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fine, fine < 1301710532 222997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : best april fools joke today: "The GNOME Project is a community which comes together to make great software. " < 1301710533 272400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch :D < 1301710571 249871 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Saying this as somebody who hates Apple and has painful experiences with WebKit, what do you have against WebKit? < 1301710631 239526 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: absolutely nothing < 1301710636 107538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how everyone (programmer) who hates Apple loves WebKit and LLVM, in fact the two seem almost directly correlated :P < 1301710636 273275 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making a joke < 1301710642 36614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so angsty! < 1301710652 311628 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I hate apple and love webkit and llvm :-p < 1301710659 969730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: see! < 1301710660 526496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :angst! < 1301710681 925260 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no opinion on WebKit, although I do use it. And I like the idea of LLVM, but know little about it. Then again, the fact that I rarely actually write code... < 1301710702 354543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MINE QUICKER, GPU < 1301710705 86404 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have compiled WebKit. Many times. It has done things to me that are horribly inappropriate. < 1301710708 724869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MINE MINE MINE < 1301710724 698844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: It's sorry, it's just... it's just... it's just somewhat Sparta *breaks down sobbing* < 1301710737 58222 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, that's v8 :P < 1301710745 544486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SOMEWHAT SPAAAARTAAAA ;;;__;;;; < 1301710880 425358 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :V8 is twisted < 1301710894 870683 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has some insane optimizations - but is completely twisted < 1301710925 200403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :define twisted < 1301710958 278771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that js-heavy things are STILL quite slow IRL even with insane things like v8 worries me < 1301710965 548870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno what causes it, though < 1301710968 221042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the DOM, nobody likes the DOM < 1301710972 361127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's blame the DOM < 1301711090 528978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the .p2p has turned into the worst proposal evar < 1301711095 572645 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly DOM, rendering and the conversion layers between JS and the real implementation of the DOM. < 1301711105 701623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :central authority (LOL), based on trusting existing CAs (LOL) < 1301711108 848669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Require ownership of the same domain under another tld (like .net,.com,.org)" < 1301711113 478867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and first-come first serve < 1301711114 58055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1301711126 48060 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's ... the point? < 1301711132 969837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point? to fail < 1301711143 233102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :previously it was to create a decentralised naming system after the revocation rights were abused < 1301711145 29311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I forget in what case) < 1301711150 741725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I think it was the wikileaks debacle < 1301711162 531417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, no < 1301711164 260293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICANN domain seizures < 1301711164 795551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1301711169 489258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1301711171 731066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :US domain seizures < 1301711177 38074 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to own some semi-provocative .xxx domain with totally uninteresting content, just to be the only non-porn domain on .xxx (that doesn't just forward elsewhere) < 1301711177 921869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice typo there < 1301711196 744787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just get scholarly-discussion.xxx < 1301711218 493636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnofficialOverclockingEULA = I confirm that I am aware of unofficial overclocking limitations and fully understand that MSI will not provide me any support on it < 1301711220 897827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ BEST SETTING EVER < 1301711226 990214 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naw, I would get college-action.xxx and then it'll just be a discussion of various scholarly topics. < 1301711237 515611 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the character that in vim means "the entire file" (as a range)? < 1301711252 386311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: hot-college-teen-actions: What to do if you're a female college student and just need to cool down! < 1301711258 508634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*action: < 1301711263 516495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, forgot to mention female in there. < 1301711269 755604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot-teen-college-girl-action < 1301711343 225249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: So did you find Christ? < 1301711384 901939 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot-christ-on-college-girl-action.xxx // about college students finding Jesus < 1301711452 967176 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I did find an empty cave... < 1301711463 505338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck-me-jesus-say-wet-lesbian-college-girls: Girls in college, who happen to be lesbian, after a water pistol fight, realise the inaccuracy of their previous beliefs and exclaim "Fuck me -- Jesus!", as an admittance that Jesus is the answer. < 1301711471 167029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.xxx < 1301711475 673973 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that came out wrong. I did not intend for that to sound serious < 1301711488 85834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: THAT EMPTY CAVE IS JESUS. < 1301711510 431643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: So anyway, about "semi-provocative" :P < 1301711521 21746 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1301711533 371511 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:JesusOrgy.jpg < 1301711569 766163 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1301711668 464753 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: for ex mode ranges, % < 1301711691 591573 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for normal mode, G provided you are at the beginning to start with < 1301711730 630268 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah i figured it out < 1301711749 554497 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 1G if you are at the end < 1301711757 707995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepare for a visitor < 1301711759 934380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be stately < 1301711764 240136 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give an s command that would replace the first letter of a word with F and the remaining letters with U? < 1301711774 857048 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not like a lot of the new TLDs. < 1301711787 922222 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know vi doesn't support perl regexes, so i'm not sure how to do it < 1301711801 556367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.xxx isn't a tld < 1301711819 173010 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you could replace all with U first, then replace the first with F < 1301711831 631001 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Doesn't matter. I still do not like a lot of the new TLDs. < 1301711844 322922 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose s/./U/ would do the former. how do i do the latter? < 1301711850 791242 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Go up above where .xxx was mentioned in this channel) < 1301711854 965162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like .coop? < 1301711859 551923 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\ You don't have port: your domain is deregistered :-) < 1301712404 792765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll use those auto porn detection systems < 1301712412 891837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rig up the _no porn_ output to automatic deregistration < 1301712425 46880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ones that come up as porn will be forwarded on to agents for... uhhh... double checking < 1301712426 348525 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I hope so < 1301712439 552622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINALLY A SAFE HAVEN ON THE INTERNET WHERE PORN IS PROTECTED < 1301712449 726238 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, same with .museum, since a museum could get .com or .org instead probably (depending on whether the museum is commercial) < 1301712451 574083 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: except in india < 1301712457 852543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :INDIA IS BANNED < 1301712459 330095 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMHO .com, .net, .org, countries --> no more < 1301712462 332193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they blocking .xxx or something? < 1301712462 890360 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1301712471 859163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: that leaves no space for individuals < 1301712473 616694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i find country tlds lame < 1301712481 902574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT they're only ever used to reduce name conflicts < 1301712485 432515 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://thenextweb.com/asia/2011/03/24/india-to-block-xxx-top-level-domain/ < 1301712488 782100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to show idiotic patriotism < 1301712502 88979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you give yourself a .me.uk, you move to America, your domain is now silly < 1301712508 585096 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: IMHO country TLDs are basically for the government sites. I don't even want to see .co.uk or whatever < 1301712515 456485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your corporation gets a .fi, expands to become international, your domain is now silly < 1301712518 11271 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they are useful for localization < 1301712528 628741 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I prefer the http headers for that < 1301712531 479284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you create patriotismhooray.us, you put waving american flag gifs on it, I hate you < 1301712538 236168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: agreed wrt headers < 1301712541 973679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they suck for users < 1301712546 583775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nobody knows about them < 1301712548 85650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the UI is hidden < 1301712556 268348 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the interface needs to expose a "pick a language for this site" < 1301712559 480696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1301712570 329050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: anyway, I would also add some personal TLD < 1301712572 530944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd have to be non-lame < 1301712584 37710 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: personal tld? ie for random people? < 1301712584 299191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.me is supremely lame (and yet another cctld abuse), .name is also lame < 1301712589 330835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because of the first.last.name thing < 1301712591 34303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just idiotic < 1301712596 635132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: for people in general < 1301712605 197422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people aren't organisations, corporations or ISPs < 1301712605 362535 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: .me is fine < 1301712611 428726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but .me is really cheesy. < 1301712624 540180 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I want to see the TLD meanings enforced though < 1301712635 993866 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie corps CAN'T get a .me name < 1301712638 213763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Meh -- I don't like TLDs much < 1301712641 216808 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :and .org is meant for NFPs < 1301712641 410323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does there exist a series of regex subsitutions that takes a string like "what the hell was elliott talking about?" and make it be "TROL OLO LOLO LOL OLOLOLO LOLOLOL OLOLOL" < 1301712647 178162 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :or related types < 1301712657 810147 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fuck.me ? < 1301712659 262918 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The OpenNIC are also pretty bad -- the things they use TLDs for are not what they should be used for, with the possible (maybe) exception of .null and .glue. Maybe even .micro. But all of them ought to be reduced to three letters, and .micro should be registered as subdomains for countries and then subdomains of those as the normal domains, so all .micro would need at least three parts of the domain name instead of two. < 1301712663 793075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: they're really just Yet Another attempt to impose a Great Ontology of Everything < 1301712671 551170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which never works and never will or can work < 1301712692 862464 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't necc. like a hierarchical system. But can you provide a different unique identifier per "site" ? < 1301712697 906340 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION biCYCles on elliott's head < 1301712707 260081 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that doesn't reduce to a hash or other non-rememberable thing) < 1301712710 452596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I'm not sure. I'm also not sure you need to or want to. < 1301712714 948142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Naming is very, very hard. < 1301712721 751178 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a gopher service too, but gopher is the protocol, it doesn't belong in the TLD. < 1301712724 453642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naming is possibly the hardest thing in systems. < 1301712739 616305 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the two hardest things in computer science are naming things, cache invalidation, and off-by-one errors < 1301712744 220764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Yes yes yes :P < 1301712745 299917 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, so, you'd be opposed to gmail.email ? < 1301712747 128096 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1301712753 184842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But naming is the hardest by far (for systems and not actual programming). < 1301712759 310408 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes. I would be opposed to that too. < 1301712762 641344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Anyway, while I'm not a complete decentralisation nut like some people, I do find DNS worrying. < 1301712794 206544 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :en.wikipedia.http < 1301712804 680764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Anyway, squaring Zooko's triangle is still something I think about on a regular basis. < 1301712814 107465 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :illegalbooks.ftp < 1301712814 661991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/squarezooko seems quite promising. < 1301712838 470922 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm follow DNS and related constructs very closely (IETF mailing lists, NANOG, DNS-operations, etc) I find the discussion very interest < 1301712850 465341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Yeah, I'm not the type to follow mailing lists religiously though. < 1301712853 782727 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The protocol does not belong in the TLD. If you have multiple computers on the network with different protocols, use the leftmost part to indicate the protocol, not the rightmost part. < 1301712854 233392 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :espresso.coffee < 1301712873 185235 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im-a-teapot.coffee < 1301712875 587176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In @, a global name would actually just reference an object, and you only really ever need one: past that, you can handle your own naming to your heart's content. Of course the same applies to DNS. < 1301712895 537520 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: agreed. the TLDs are just namespace reduction devices < 1301712900 619608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in @ I'm pretty sure the naming system would just be a (bidirectional) map of name to object hash. (Object hash retrieval is a separate concern.) < 1301712903 216549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The issue is allocating this map. < 1301712909 728108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And distributing it. < 1301712921 844601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: you might want to read that blog post, it's very interesting < 1301712928 515054 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how is BitCoin human-meaningful? < 1301712946 280334 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think what Knuth said about naming things in computer science, in writing programs, is look in a thesaurus if you need help. < 1301712958 988028 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "dynamically translating between different possible kinds of names." --> this is how phonebooks work < 1301712961 986137 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, BitCoin is meaningful for experimental purposes only. < 1301712968 885220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I do not mean the article on zooko's triangle :P < 1301712972 59967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I mean http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/squarezooko < 1301712976 753369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, it's not really the same as a phonebook I don't think < 1301712983 13896 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: similar idea < 1301712989 527697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: bitcoin can be and is traded for real-world currency and goods < 1301712995 502293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: not really < 1301713000 15107 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Sgeo: bitcount is based on very unsound economics < 1301713002 818205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I don't think anyone's proposed this before bitcoin < 1301713005 860657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: it is not < 1301713009 303266 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :* economics < 1301713010 43832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin is perfectly sound < 1301713041 518502 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Yes, is one thing I mean. BitCoin is good for experimental purposes. < 1301713045 174225 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable, I don't mean the economics part, although I'd be interesting in you describing how it's unsound. I'm more thinking how anyone thinks BitCoin has anything to do with human-meaningful names < 1301713048 935690 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: reading that blog post < 1301713063 810074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please do respond about bitcoin, though < 1301713182 623408 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't have the time to defend myself right now, but the basic idea is that early adopters get a uncatchable advantage in event of a sudden increase in number of users < 1301713194 269001 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1301713202 240974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: please don't make such strong statements if you won't defend them. < 1301713206 27291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really bad for the discourse. < 1301713224 703556 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'll defend it in a couple of days (ask me after monday) < 1301713231 549444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Anyway, that is not really true at all: if you mean because mining gets harder and then ends, mining isn't the most efficient way to get bitcoins at all. < 1301713251 510802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths? < 1301713254 892855 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1301713264 837072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that a yes to my have you read? it was quite quick. < 1301713273 612639 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I have read that before < 1301713290 86207 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm repeating the conclusion section of articles in economics journals < 1301713302 428479 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the reasoning to a basic extent < 1301713313 800088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: There are plenty of articles making plenty of conclusions in plenty of journals. < 1301713335 825287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you truly have discovered a fatal flaw in Bitcoin, I'm sure the developers would love to know about it, but I very much doubt it. < 1301713341 570757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or if they have.) < 1301713349 946912 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: these flaws are not 'fatal' flaws < 1301713364 99558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said "based on very unsound economics". < 1301713375 647723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that are based on very unsound things don't tend to be salvageable. < 1301713380 368078 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I should have said: 'possibly based on unsound ...' < 1301713390 110988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I would disagree :) < 1301713424 234865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's getting a bit too close to conspiracy theories for me to state this without implicit quotes, but it has to be said that the kind of people who write in economics journals _might_ have slightly vested interests. < 1301713427 30962 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there are other issues relating to fraud and such (as in securities fraud, not "I have a fake bitcoin" fraud) < 1301713431 507770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course this should not affect the validity of the raw logic itself. < 1301713465 517276 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes. Ask me after monday and I'll fully defend myself (or at least my understanding of the original author's argument) < 1301713474 108421 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I *could* be wrong < 1301713482 588898 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :my understanding of economics is minimal < 1301713485 560178 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't know < 1301713499 356806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only advantage early adopters of bitcoin have is that they can mine faster and more, and in a wider view, they are the only ones who can mine at all. But considering the real-world cash exchanges, the fact that you can buy substantial real-world goods with bitcoins (albeit not very commonly), and the fact that some people will even pay you for freelancing work in bitcoins (but again rarely), and I < 1301713499 550646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :think that mining is irrelevant in the long-run. < 1301713518 764184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think bitcoin is any more subject to securities fraud than any other currency. < 1301713521 225128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, that's my initial statement. < 1301713534 673195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I have a vested interest too as a miner is currently hogging up my utterly terrible GPU, but :) < 1301713574 559689 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha < 1301713578 344547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: So we're on the same page, can you agree that if Bitcoin was, in your opinion, not flawed in the economic thing, it would be a Very Good Thing? < 1301713627 91143 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I would still like the diversity that having multiple currencies gives (in event that something *does* happen) but in general I would agree that it is a Good Thing < 1301713642 137574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, certainly, more currencies is a good thing. < 1301713653 706914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they should have to compete :-) < 1301713675 831023 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tracing a coin's history can be used to connect identities to addresses. More info. " ---> this is also a major issue < 1301713694 702801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is possibly an impressive feat of cognitive dissonance to maintain slightly left-wing economic opinions and support bitcoin which is a very libertarian system; I haven't decided yet.) < 1301713719 343550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: that's true, but it is not as big a deal as it seems < 1301713726 698066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: for one, you can use a new address for every transaction if you wish < 1301713740 696777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: for two, you can avoid creating a new record by agreeing with the receiver to not pay the (optional) transaction fee < 1301713763 43699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: and three, if you really want to break any record, just convert it to another currency and back < 1301713773 986186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: "While the Bitcoin technology can support strong anonymity, the current implementation is usually not very anonymous." < 1301713774 335206 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've been described as a libertarian - but I disagree with some, but not all, libertarian views < 1301713788 893806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a supporter of taxes :-p < 1301713790 414459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:-P < 1301713814 144068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Less ridiculously stated, I'm a supporter of public services, which require funds.) < 1301713817 663812 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anarchy != librarian < 1301713825 472439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANARCHY IS A LIBRARIAN < 1301713828 149455 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Librarian? < 1301713828 643221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOIN THE LIBRARIAN REVOLUTION < 1301713834 818879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOKS WILL SET US FREE!!!! < 1301713838 192186 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: blame aspell < 1301713845 905727 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :*libertarian < 1301713847 581791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I never said libertarianism was anarchy. < 1301713851 375893 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I support *some* public services < 1301713855 980650 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all < 1301713862 230622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: But libertarians definitely oppose large (to them) taxes. < 1301713871 732791 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which public services? < 1301713874 625720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: do you support single-payer healthcare? (to use the common term) < 1301713919 576709 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: libertarians oppose unneeded taxes, but anarchists say 'taxes are wrong' (or many of them do) < 1301713943 374501 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :single-payer healthcare -> basically no < 1301713948 983866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: the line is often blurred. consider those who desire no taxes but those which are required to support a police force < 1301713953 239156 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :although my view is somewhat nuanced < 1301713958 923923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or in ridiculous cases, a police force that somehow requires no taxes) < 1301713962 885220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ofc these are idiots) < 1301713967 81938 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how does not paying a transaction fee leave anything off the record? < 1301713980 576163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: then we disagree on a basically fundamental level. < 1301713986 223554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I doubt that is reconcilable < 1301713994 162625 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: probably < 1301714001 138092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgive my cynicism but i've forgotten, what country do you originate from? < 1301714006 229249 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :united states < 1301714011 423765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgive my cynicism again, but I'm not surprised < 1301714197 262818 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "the power has been shifted into your own hands. Fraud will always exist. It's up to you to only send bitcoins to trusted entities" --> another issue. In the real world people routinely have to deal with untrusted entities < 1301714216 551571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :generate new address, send bitcoin to whoever, never use it again < 1301714223 203507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: also: escrow < 1301714250 578294 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Terrorists fly aircrafts into buildings, but the governments have not yet abolished consumer air travel. " --> false in the US :-) < 1301714260 739575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hur hur hur < 1301714277 345678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's now air travel only for the molested < 1301714280 349221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a kind service < 1301714291 578114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not molested? No problem! They take care of that for you before you get on the plane. < 1301714323 766911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should move somewhere that isn't the UK so I can have my European superiority generator working honestly < 1301714346 577985 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha < 1301714354 733840 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would love to link in the .eu < 1301714358 221586 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :*live < 1301714370 895374 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://example.eu < 1301714402 478219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a nice place. What with our universal healthcare and all OH BURN < 1301714452 706406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Problem with .eu is, colder it is, nicer it is :P < 1301714462 891757 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: .ru is the nicest ? < 1301714463 241905 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes warmth < 1301714467 533109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until you get to Finland, where the coldness actually causes every personality to freeze and become stone cold. < 1301714483 65025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And after a step into Russia, it gets so cold that everyone becomes insane. < 1301714532 841051 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts elliott in Antarctica < 1301714535 97901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this miner is a horrible reminder of how pitiful my gpu is :( < 1301714599 145705 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :.an Dissolved as of October 10, 2010 :-( < 1301714623 411316 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :.aq Antarctica --> WOW < 1301714667 759732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :antarctica is awesome < 1301714721 386958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: also: With no population, there is no indigenous economic activity. The islands' only natural resource is fish; the Australian government allows limited fishing in the surrounding waters.[19] Despite the lack of population, the islands have been assigned the country code HM in ISO 3166-1 (ISO 3166-2:HM) and therefore the Internet top-level domain .hm. The timezone of the islands is UTC+5.[20] < 1301714723 138369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heard island < 1301714732 345500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.hm: BEST DOMAIN EVER? < 1301714735 719072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*TLD < 1301714752 203949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ http://praise.hm/ < 1301714763 330865 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1301714774 678359 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :although .aq competes with .hm < 1301714779 929872 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browser not working, is that link to an actual site? < 1301714796 607451 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how I register a .hm domain ? < 1301714819 686798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.registry.hm/ < 1301714825 514209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$35/yr < 1301714836 852943 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION registers ham.hm < 1301714838 192134 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1301714846 656683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.hm < 1301714875 258767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I once wanted to write a script to query all single letter domains dot two-letter ccTLD names, and then filter out the registered ones, the ones that show as "invalid", and then manually filter out the ones with a minimum length polic < 1301714876 815032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*policy < 1301714893 629633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I firmly believe it is possible to register a three-letter-plus-dot domain name today, just very difficult to find one < 1301714903 470526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know .st make a big deal about charging a lot for shorter ones < 1301714907 139829 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do it < 1301714913 987887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably you can get a single-letter one for $9999999999/yr < 1301714926 319920 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: algorit.hm < 1301714929 449021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: after bit.ly had to censor things because of sharia law, I've soured to the idea of domain hacks. < 1301714944 83754 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, bit.ly censored stuff? < 1301714948 37471 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: o.hm < 1301714955 545231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what.hm < 1301714955 886107 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: there was talk of it - duno if they actually did < 1301714962 315415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish.hm < 1301714972 465860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill.hm < 1301714981 905697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.uh.hm < 1301714994 32903 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would get o.hm - but I don't want to spend $35 < 1301715005 227423 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :per year (cause I'd keep it) < 1301715011 601303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be longer < 1301715012 708925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i checked < 1301715014 157074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deceptionisland.aq ;; COOLEST NAME FOR AN ISLAND ON COOLEST TLD < 1301715021 17274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unfortunately requires www. for website, LESSENING THE AWESOME) < 1301715033 679486 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it requires a WWW ? < 1301715037 162961 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1301715046 103276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they set up their dns badly, presumably < 1301715071 760249 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want a cool domain name I could use for an IRC cloak :-p < 1301715079 711264 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a hcl.aq ? < 1301715097 148913 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :.aq is restricted to governments and people with a physical presence < 1301715195 18047 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Educational and scientific institutions operating in the region served by the HM domain are entitled to free registration of an appropriately selected domain name. < 1301715196 951701 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-| < 1301715211 745794 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Christian URL shorteners. What's next, Christian Linux distros? < 1301715220 809669 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sets up an educational Institute  < 1301715238 40625 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: not next, before: Ichthux < 1301715247 768338 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301715247 768472 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :S Q L < 1301715250 982569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1301715252 902708 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable, I had Ubuntu Christian Edition in mind, actually < 1301715253 874287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :test2 < 1301715256 827536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :test3 < 1301715259 144427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1301715280 736839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, technically my code will hang for a bit if the server sends a partial line then waits for ages to complete < 1301715282 37966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who does that < 1301715284 715999 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: like your last quit message? < 1301715293 891292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: IN THE REGION < 1301715302 639974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: good luck living on an uninhabited island :D < 1301715318 400321 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "a virtual online system to learn about the .hm region" < 1301715319 940357 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-p < 1301715323 561754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :har har < 1301715350 658428 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and when you go their the page is empty < 1301715359 731538 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it is a listing of the inhabitants < 1301715360 857577 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1301715366 818214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this white page adequately represents the appearance of these islands" < 1301715370 839170 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :* go there < 1301715382 77147 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1301715397 768752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if it is not white on your computer, please adjust your browser settings for optimum results." < 1301715400 597651 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers grabbing an Ubuntu SE wallpaper < 1301715406 780494 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: reminds me of purple.com < 1301715411 833505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :purple.com is awesome < 1301715425 423679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a subdomain where the guy had actual stuff on, but THE MYSTERY REMAINS < 1301715433 545481 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know the guy < 1301715439 100960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha really? < 1301715440 47781 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :*guys < 1301715442 66254 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah < 1301715446 363879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said he actually uses purple in the faq < 1301715451 175221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i went on a mission to find it :P < 1301715454 217266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*purple.com < 1301715454 773793 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which subdomain did you find ?) < 1301715473 352461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1301715476 477021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just had some photos or something < 1301715478 696276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have been a path < 1301715480 606083 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1301715482 661346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on some mountain or another :P < 1301715493 213586 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fav thing is his donation page < 1301715493 421593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find the purple itself to be an inadequate purple on my display, however < 1301715506 153304 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANTS A GOOD DOMAIN NAME < 1301715508 786778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm considering suing < 1301715524 870403 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.purple.com/availability.html < 1301715528 656879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: goalse.cx < 1301715532 846830 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible to lease purple.com < 1301715534 765485 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: support personnel often use purple.com because its easy to say over the phone < 1301715545 764994 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is fast loading < 1301715548 353246 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rarely down < 1301715550 163533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: don't you mean: competent support personnel < 1301715562 569296 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: *sigh* yes < 1301715568 594173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :always qualify tiny subsets :-P < 1301715577 486095 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: on IRC I'm not very precise < 1301715583 947361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRECISENESS IS MANDATORY < 1301715596 324528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if this channel doesn't wear you out how will we ever weed the oldbies out < 1301715601 304108 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smacks elliott with trout < 1301715609 203962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has only lasted with his age with extended use of sarcasm < 1301715610 104855 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this channel is with ##cs should be < 1301715624 671220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Topic for ##cs set by Quadrescence at Tue Nov 30 19:18:07 2010 < 1301715631 316176 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unrelated - do you guys give cloaks - I want something other than unaffiliated) < 1301715632 55512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god Quadrescence stopped bothering us. < 1301715640 700055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: we're not a group afaik :P < 1301715645 16107 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hehe < 1301715651 825675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: we might have trouble registering as one, because we don't reaaally own the term esoteric < 1301715656 804100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although we worked out we have a pretty good claim < 1301715663 336194 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: doesn't matter - you have the esolong wiki < 1301715667 677634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang, but not esoteric < 1301715669 749838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and esolang is ugly :-P < 1301715679 783178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, were this channel created today it would be ##esoteric. thank god it wasn't, because ## is ugly. < 1301715680 886562 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: same idea. I could do for you guys if you want < 1301715687 66235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ops have to register it? < 1301715694 396824 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually yeah < 1301715698 923889 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably +F < 1301715702 258195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ChanServ- Information on ##cs: < 1301715702 442423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ChanServ- Founder : dixon < 1301715703 246224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1301715708 642083 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no wait < 1301715709 464390 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lied < 1301715712 254138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon is Quadrescence's other moronic troll friend. < 1301715712 418340 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smacks self < 1301715718 63991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hardly surprised ##cs is a shithole < 1301715722 113137 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ops *don't* have to register < 1301715730 162185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but but you could be posing as us < 1301715732 381904 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: as long as you have control of the website < 1301715740 125818 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :they give you a token to put on < 1301715740 682981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have control of "the esoteric website" though :D < 1301715755 421177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ChanServ- Registered : Jan 03 01:30:22 2003 (8 years, 13 weeks, 0 days, 02:11:51 ago) < 1301715760 275307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i swear we were registered in 2006 a while ago < 1301715762 592481 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you want to go through with this I could talk to the opers < 1301715762 757575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some DB got merged < 1301715767 528636 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know a bunch of them < 1301715778 234383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: well it's not my decision to make really < 1301715785 714765 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you == #esoteric < 1301715787 737383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm happy with my cloak... but a nice domain name is nicer than a nice cloak :P < 1301715798 936215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: hmm, i can think of at least seventy people who would balk at that statement < 1301715802 121389 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :fing fire alwrm < 1301715806 994332 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is away < 1301715813 509935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. always bothering us about fires and shit. < 1301715817 594939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say let it burn, i'm busy ircing! < 1301715847 894136 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it ever useful in cricket, to sacrifice a wicket by handling the ball or in any other way? < 1301715849 666433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jeff.purple.com/ oh here we go. < 1301715852 235956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah google finds this trivially. < 1301715872 62667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that guy's photo is freaking me out argh get back on < 1301715972 612715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://www.purple.com/index2.html, done googlestalking now :-P < 1301716063 415457 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm happy with my cloak... but a nice domain name is nicer than a nice cloak :P // I AGREE lololol*runs* < 1301716080 654270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :says gregor, guy who doesn't even run an identd for a nicer prefix < 1301716092 292539 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't figure it out *sobblecopter* < 1301716113 915316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could run a fake one that only works for you < 1301716122 466125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/sh < 1301716124 129113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read line < 1301716129 70228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$line : USERID : UNIX : Gregor" < 1301716135 1567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :put in inetd for whatever the ident port is < 1301716140 455005 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301716173 193081 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301716187 718444 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, but then e.g. glogbot couldn't have "glogbot" as its ident ... it'd be nice to have an identd that any process could say "dear identd: Please lie for me in this way" :P < 1301716198 824436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: Yes, but it'd be better than what you have :P < 1301716204 796365 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1301716211 444996 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301716217 583789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: There's one identd that just responds with the user that initiated the TCP connection in question. < 1301716225 616481 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a domain name too but the reverse DNS doesn't work so instead it displays the service provider, which, I suppose, can sometimes be useful in case the country I live is important for some case (which usually isn't, though). < 1301716226 101590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://skarnet.org/software/minidentd/index.html < 1301716233 536617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of those djb-freak /package dealies though, so YMMV :) < 1301716243 854876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that it'd be hard to move out.) < 1301716255 963781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And, well, I think you do need ucspi-tcp. Maybe.) < 1301716269 603224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, there's also the http://smarden.org/ipsvd/ clone :-P < 1301716337 218555 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am deciding to use LodePNG for my program. Have any of you ever used LodePNG, or libpng or some other libraries for loading/saving pictures, in your program? Which ones? < 1301716410 572227 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses floating point only for deciding Huffman encoding, so there is nothing that would cause different pictures input/output on different computers. < 1301716466 173747 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301716837 301690 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1301716853 280213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1301716860 904431 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I installed nullidentd, it got the auth response, but it sent "foobar" instead of "Gregor" as I specified as an argument >_< < 1301716871 579177 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(foobar being the brilliant default) < 1301716896 420432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: You don't need a piece of software for a two-line shell script X_X < 1301716933 607311 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know how to do an inetd line :P < 1301716998 442755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1301717000 196979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :--/etc/inetd.conf < 1301717127 168039 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: some jackass pulled the alarm < 1301717149 473473 :libc\x2Eso!~Gregor@codu.org QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1301717162 31033 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways: are you personally interested in the group, if yes, do you think it would be a good idea to get this going? < 1301717183 600015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really personally interested, but I'm not opposed :P < 1301717185 118766 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1301717190 524041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: didn't work < 1301717192 367406 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org NICK :Guest15127 < 1301717194 427836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* libc\x2Eso (~Gregor@codu.org) has joined #esoteric < 1301717201 133092 :Guest15127!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1301717203 207267 :Guest15127!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doublewtf < 1301717219 187721 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: who would be 'in charge'? those with ops? < 1301717219 767392 :Guest15127!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, did I actually register libc\x2Eso? X-D < 1301717231 880026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest15127: just trolling, it worked < 1301717233 196682 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest15127: hehe < 1301717236 527180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Nobody? < 1301717241 68782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1301717241 441615 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ha < 1301717255 275865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I guess fizzie and oerjan. lament is absentee. < 1301717258 695061 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1301717263 341061 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will talk to them < 1301717269 667278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :define them < 1301717277 568692 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and lament ? < 1301717281 142441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is probably too lazy to get anything out of ;D < 1301717299 682592 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1301717303 66898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T TELL LAMENT HE'LL BAN EVERYONE < 1301717314 144948 :Guest15127!Gregor@codu.org NICK :libc\x2Eso < 1301717410 496602 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hrm? < 1301717411 63211 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Coyote finally caught me" // well bip, that is one unique default quit message :P < 1301717427 894880 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :who had that message? < 1301717440 335758 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... me :P < 1301717446 485774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All default quit messages should be as embarrassing as possible < 1301717455 506494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Gregor has quit (WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOORESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS) < 1301717463 769845 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: mine are "/dev/io failed" "I found 1 in /dev/zero" and "overflow in /dev/null" for quit, part, away < 1301717484 76038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Gregor has quit (USER HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FOR BEING A TERRIBLE PERSON) < 1301717510 345939 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just type the quit message every time instead of having it in a macro. < 1301717525 543099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I not surprised. < 1301717578 218007 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301717701 620504 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I like to make it not always the same message. < 1301717743 713824 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Quit: Later < 1301718033 380907 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301718222 673257 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a array with values 0 to 255 and you need to convert values in that array according to a calculation, is it more efficient to do the calculation every time or to store the results in a lookup table? < 1301718244 563155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :precalculated lookup table < 1301718259 819886 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is what I thought, good, OK. < 1301718961 713825 :aloril_!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301719067 485477 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301719208 867896 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, wil wheaton looks a bit moldy indeed < 1301719624 683245 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1301720555 143913 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301721053 657234 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301721064 285000 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301721139 334939 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am working on webifying and simplifying LodePNG. LodePNG has even been converted to D, and then maybe they can also put the port to CWEB listed there too. < 1301721491 305483 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1301721897 570922 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301722296 272642 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1301722298 853058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : wow, wil wheaton looks a bit moldy indeed < 1301722308 805602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as much as that seducer of unwilling cats < 1301722579 117763 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at his page, he didn't have many mold < 1301722637 780388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The supervisor for CTSS, the early 1960s predecessor system to Multics, had been written almost entirely in the 7094 assembly program, FAP." < 1301722644 328216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i can see this document is going to be a lot of fun < 1301722951 438354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this document makes me want to go back to the late 60s < 1301722983 896322 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fap fap fap fap fap < 1301723029 570718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: YOU GOT THE JOKE < 1301723048 480085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: afaict mold is over now < 1301723054 712460 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a joke elliott < 1301723066 768269 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but I looked before it ended < 1301723071 363873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1301723071 528096 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had like 2 < 1301723087 956351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION backs slowly away from lament into a pile of FAP < 1301723185 357424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An idiotic structure was one that contained an array that began at a different place in the machine word for every element: he actually found that the Known Segment Table had a 37-bit array declared in it, requiring the compiler to generate many instructions to advance from one element to another." < 1301723187 243629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1301723809 578893 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the late 60s were a good time for fapping indeed < 1301723968 165175 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GHC migratiön tö Git cömplété" indeed < 1301723976 121655 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently dons didn't escape :D < 1301724041 672341 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: he has about 500 mold trophies, though < 1301724048 113876 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I_RAPE_CATS) < 1301724062 300651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : the late 60s were a good time for fapping indeed < 1301724066 748 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably the effect just wore off somehow < 1301724066 166361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd know. wait do you know? < 1301724072 647770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you're actually old enough :( < 1301724073 813230 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was possible to escape, apparently < 1301724075 913107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, mold spores wear off < 1301724089 755700 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a thread in /r/basement for escaping < 1301724100 990578 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not really old enough, i'd be in the womb < 1301724127 251183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well get out of there already! < 1301724139 45872 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did, just after the late 60s < 1301724151 16479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO SLOW < 1301724171 382790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so you only got born in like 1970? :/ < 1301724173 48870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite lame < 1301724175 92149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probably ba < 1301724175 478858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1301724176 420380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1301724177 900804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: < 1301724181 426550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner got born in like 2002 < 1301724189 327107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you know, fuck him < 1301724240 917190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/aDJMG.jpg ;; STAY CLASSY, SUN < 1301724251 564978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the progression from houses to cats is a very serious one. < 1301724259 189374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how they included a picture of hitler for comparison. < 1301724265 472615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i swear that house is wearing a beret < 1301724417 110754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet oerjan wears a beret < 1301724490 380157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hear his silence? < 1301724495 75319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the silence of a beret-wearer. < 1301724595 701809 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats olsner on the head < 1301724604 139355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he's stupid isn't he :D < 1301724628 263611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/basement/comments/ggq6i/if_som3on3_miss3s_mold_and_r3ads_our_history/ all this is doing is reminding me i still need to finish binging homestuck... < 1301724664 329275 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot recall wearing a beret, ever. but then there is a lot i cannot recall. < 1301724677 884643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how sad < 1301724732 606782 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adloft houstler < 1301724766 780370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when will you stop coming here oerjan < 1301724770 752584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you're 65? < 1301724833 589567 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't plan that far ahead. < 1301724846 757915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WILL YOU STILL BE HERE WHEN YOU'RE 82 < 1301724855 28832 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1301724870 479993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 2052! < 1301724873 546056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WILL IRC EVEN EXIST THEN < 1301724897 545318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i just made oerjan feel good about his age :DDDDD < 1301724905 886493 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well let's at least hope the replacement is not a step backward < 1301724927 891775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is there a pun in there < 1301724934 870405 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know of < 1301724952 624871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well maybe it'll be post-singularity. < 1301724964 338935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we'll just sort of hook up our minds to each other in a big circle. like /r/circlejerk, but /r/circle...MIND < 1301724967 168639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you FEELING my VIBE < 1301724988 718577 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. and we have to ban certain people lest it become an _actual_ circlejerk < 1301725004 387222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, fucking yorick < 1301725011 494272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't control him < 1301725099 224993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for his 512th birthday, we'll buy oerjan a digital scan of a vintage 2010 computer running the lost compiler of GHC < 1301725125 835709 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mind is now doing a few leaps to notice that "kline" is norwegian for making out < 1301725132 190268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you believe you actually had to type out every single letter you wanted to say to the computer then like a baby, haha < 1301725166 37670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm trying to think of a suitably joking reply < 1301725252 83509 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that might be hard < 1301725283 970648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eine kline nachtmusik < 1301725310 681604 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the music of the night indeed < 1301725371 262647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How many non-moldy Redditors think we should get trophies for our profiles that say "I Survived the Plague"?" < 1301725373 95902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this #2 < 1301725376 400497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1301725421 560118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan, if you don't upvote my comment in http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/ggu2r/ghc_migrati%C3%B6n_t%C3%B6_git_c%C3%B6mpl%C3%A9t%C3%A9/, the smilies will win < 1301725425 628134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you have no account < 1301725427 319042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL GET ONE < 1301725427 543692 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't seen anyone who was _killed_ by the plague yet... < 1301725446 1831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed not. but let's just say that I_RAPE_CATS will never rape again. < 1301725453 180869 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps. < 1301725475 380766 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a sad thing, to be bereft of your life mission < 1301725698 499786 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1301725918 781457 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently emacs's april fools joke was that it wasn't a joke? < 1301725952 256050 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it... < 1301725991 51767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't < 1301725995 920253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lexical scoping is still off for files by default < 1301725999 966686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not _really_ lexically scoped yet < 1301726015 116313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE SUBTLETIES, VIM USER < 1301726080 85244 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1301726099 295565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1301726128 839657 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's f*u* okay) < 1301726421 607694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was wondering why it sounded so uncharacteristic < 1301726430 565201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly it's message memory, like homeopathy < 1301726475 528405 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact i usually use O KAY might _possibly_ have something to do with it... < 1301726566 710957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, O KAY is getting kinda obnoxious at this point :D < 1301726637 148377 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because it's _meant_ to be, silly < 1301726766 179039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes but no really stop it, child. < 1301726782 351447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION aimed that right at oerjan's offence lobe < 1301726854 347235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : :< < 1301726917 693471 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my offence lobe exploded from overloading years ago < 1301726935 250826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone say your FACE looked like a puddle? < 1301726941 359290 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, that was my conscience lobe < 1301726954 463438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :conscientious objectificator < 1301726969 468243 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION captures elliott and applies tickle torture < 1301726981 735815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's illegal < 1301726987 411484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prev < 1301726989 75110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1301726992 461992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well typing is going < 1301726999 977265 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next < 1301727008 995343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a nxet too < 1301728494 961578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan < 1301728496 126759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sfiosdhjoihiogjiogskrfglf < 1301728539 223402 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a good day to you, sir < 1301728546 524101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)))))) < 1301728548 600950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going to sleep soon < 1301728549 341685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can tell < 1301728582 776598 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to check your data < 1301728593 493755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, did you just get up? < 1301728595 784445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean like < 1301728597 839432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the last N hours < 1301728604 454243 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither < 1301728604 619583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes scribbles on teletyped data < 1301728609 727657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typewritered < 1301728611 373580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: midday? < 1301728617 723939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION scrumples up paper, throws in bin < 1301728753 948741 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :late afternoon, perhaps < 1301728778 72054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: YOUR MEASUREMENTS ARE HAYWIRE < 1301728787 186078 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AS EXPECTED < 1301729188 459569 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301730029 639431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301730622 8406 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301730939 592100 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301730986 611056 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301731711 463129 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301732077 31962 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1301732617 580341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301733346 956381 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1301733428 746504 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1301733808 875460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301734320 772696 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-31.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301739549 827800 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301739660 856949 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: ==(>^w^)> ==(> >.<)> < 1301739666 869198 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1301740662 170112 :cheater99!~cheater@e181135247.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301740702 671039 :cheater00!~cheater@g228061168.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301742687 815916 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1301744062 753423 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301745364 957767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301745544 874376 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, webcomics in French are the most ridiculous thing. < 1301745883 77922 :MigoMipo_!~John@84-217-10-31.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301746071 551345 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-31.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1301747064 834377 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Webomics are tools of Satan! < 1301747093 448786 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially 1/0! The author compares himself to God! < 1301747332 826363 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that where you found God? < 1301747352 500953 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1301747370 350130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why *were* you looking for him in the first place?) < 1301747430 156265 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he has Alzheimers'. Could injure himself, so much power but not a functioning mind. Probably why he stopped doing miracles. < 1301747440 262677 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I need to find him before he hurts himself and the world < 1301747452 760349 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send him to an old god's home. < 1301747650 454947 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Chrome: It should not take forever to load a file that's on my hard drive < 1301747682 995513 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also are you still trying to learn boring maths? < 1301747761 188599 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On hold for the moment < 1301748900 796499 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301749798 658752 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1301749807 901503 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Vorpal was offline? < 1301749812 349513 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's *never* offline. < 1301749820 897648 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...Vorpal was offline? <-- it's called power outage :P < 1301749827 715008 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's like some horrifying vision, always at the edge of your perception. < 1301749835 207991 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1301749914 873332 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301750692 225743 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-116-66.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301750709 930579 :Siebenzack!~siebenzac@p54B2AC8A.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301750762 487943 :Guest27586!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301750766 596287 :Siebenzack!~siebenzac@p54B2AC8A.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi^^ < 1301750772 138557 :Guest27586!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1301750885 224162 :Guest27586!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com NICK :Thunfish < 1301751089 422594 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-47-197.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301751092 192493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the matrix of solidity. < 1301751142 494520 :Siebenzack!~siebenzac@p54B2AC8A.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you^^ < 1301751188 608817 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301751232 118824 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301751394 476156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ELISP is now lexically scoped. < 1301751471 221568 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the future have all the non-awesome thing? < 1301751478 79953 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*things < 1301751638 994406 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: because assholes like you couldnt resist using a time machine to go to the future and take all the cool stuff < 1301751644 392607 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you assholes you < 1301751687 70220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, we also stole all the money? < 1301751691 857926 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/?/./ < 1301751701 256122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having a hard time with punctuation right now. < 1301751734 856189 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yes < 1301751781 837900 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's the REAL reason for the financial crash.) < 1301753574 471729 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here who wants to try out my implementation of a portable brainfuck compiler in C? < 1301756306 273955 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1301756896 783352 :MigoMipo_!~John@84-217-10-31.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301756937 529077 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-31.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301757460 966738 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301757592 985116 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301757606 170372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thunfish, sure, but there's not really much room for innovation there. < 1301757710 218928 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but it's using other technics that I haven't seen in other compilers/interpreters, yet. < 1301757720 680120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, where can we get it? < 1301757767 167022 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301757783 730962 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thundersf.bplaced.net/bfjit/bfjit.zip < 1301757813 751866 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lately added an entry to brainfuck discussion page too. < 1301757878 992571 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried my best to write an english ReadMe. < 1301758108 62405 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me or does your parser do some optimisation as well? < 1301758189 862718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You might want to look at Esotope, BtW; it's the current best optimising BF compiler.) < 1301758226 538766 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does. < 1301758258 857961 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the advice. < 1301758573 657932 :Siebenzack!~siebenzac@p54B2AC8A.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1301758575 734799 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also at least a couple LLVM-driven brainfucks that do a mostly trivial translation themselves, but of course inherit all the LLVM optimization machinery. (Of course from an iplementation viewpoint that's pretty boring.) < 1301758664 560993 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In other news, a brief hello from Turku, the okocity.) < 1301759109 35098 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1301759164 72633 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow! Esotope generates very well optimized source code. The only disadvantage, I can find is that it needs an external C compiler. My program was meant to be fast and to be independent of external programs, but I haven't heard about Esotope, yet. < 1301759326 235488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The power of Esotope is in its macroöptimisations, so you could probably just work them into a self-contained compiler. < 1301759547 593809 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, thank you. I will try to implement some more optimisation mechanisms into my compiler. < 1301759879 375581 :Thunfish!~thunder@178.114.242.109.wireless.dyn.drei.com QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1301761546 829859 :Zuu!~vdsvsd@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301762088 785938 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1301762669 89764 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love it when WP defines conventions, then lists all possible ways to define something. < 1301762711 122871 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when there are two ways to do something and both are widespread. < 1301763228 686366 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there is ipv6.google.com and encrypted.google.com, but there seem to be no encrypted ipv6 version, heh < 1301763264 76226 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does ipv6.google.com say "go to google denmark"... ? < 1301763274 994116 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err Danmark* < 1301763408 811757 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably doesn't have as good of GeoIP for IPv6 as for IPv4. < 1301763421 276689 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1301763436 683193 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know how to switch the search box in firefox over to use https for google < 1301763437 817509 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso, why the name, BtW? < 1301763438 224457 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Or it just knows that in your heart of hearts you desperately want to be Danish. < 1301763445 212754 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso, hah < 1301763451 585929 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I shall not discuss it in this channel :P < 1301763468 306551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the \x2Eso bit? < 1301763471 552340 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for where to change it... haven't found it yet < 1301763476 321075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't about:config at least < 1301763477 194537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since that seems a blatant reference to this channel. < 1301763486 403481 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: \x2E = . < 1301763491 606723 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1301763577 892959 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since . is an invalid character for nicks on Freenode :P < 1301763648 881927 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso, and on IRC in general afaik? < 1301763660 678933 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idonno what the RFC has to say about it *shrugs* < 1301763686 861525 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The protocol really has no reason to ban any characters aside from ": \r\n" < 1301763692 833878 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso, also @ < 1301763694 105669 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and "!@" < 1301763697 568918 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1301763846 126879 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather the folder < 1301763849 553769 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :google isn't there however < 1301763853 581812 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia search is < 1301763855 923144 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm < 1301763875 910369 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... guh? < 1301763877 828465 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, it is in /usr/lib, not in my profile < 1301763879 921990 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1301763881 743543 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong channel < 1301763891 439033 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering wtf you were blathering about :P < 1301763896 26573 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso, I was talking about the google issue in another channel. < 1301763897 925270 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well < 1301763975 31104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso, so wait, if you're not discussing libc.so here, I assume you're attempting to fundraise elsewhere on Freenode? < 1301763990 718530 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, just being overexcited :P < 1301763998 935360 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay it works < 1301764006 739441 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, a little bit, but with no success :P ) < 1301764016 14963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you had no chance of getting it? < 1301764106 634847 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did I. < 1301764119 292572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but? < 1301764127 559697 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the guy I was sure would get it bowed out, so now it's just me, a few who are clearly out already, and a bunch who haven't bid (and so are wildcards) < 1301764146 709003 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rate my odds as quite low simply because I'm very near to my limit, but as it stands I'm in the lead. < 1301764162 263731 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And oh yeah, I'm not talking about that in here X-P < 1301764170 788589 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERASE LAST SIX LINES < 1301764351 130917 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to fire nukes at the tunes.org server? < 1301764362 614887 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : HALLO I AM GLOGBOT < 1301764388 803578 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbot's in someone in here's control, isn't it? No need to fire nukes there < 1301764415 305269 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My point is why even bother with tunes.org < 1301764444 897310 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's the only log that's outside of our control? < 1301764478 314363 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1301764620 384836 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301764772 705574 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301766179 837395 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, what've you got against tunes? < 1301766198 886157 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERASE LAST SIX LINES < 1301766205 284361 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And yes, I actually do think that being outside our control is A Good Thing, given Herobrine.) < 1301766225 264401 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's bad about Herobrine? < 1301766239 565705 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suuuuuucks at NetHack. < 1301766241 477180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note lack of presence in channel. < 1301766256 286678 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note nonexistence of logs on internet. < 1301766259 239712 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: elliott and I are collaborating on the Future of Logbots. < 1301766512 157538 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301766935 454368 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note nonexistence of logs on internet. <-- personally I think this can be attributed to elliott rather than being run by someone in the channel /in general/. < 1301767005 133986 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, personally I think you should shut up. < 1301767033 850917 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, come on, egobot is mostly stable. Apart from server sluggishness and hickups. So is fungot < 1301767034 15101 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i don't know what to do < 1301767048 855263 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't stop running after a few weeks < 1301767063 709190 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is run by fizzie who is, like, incapable of anger. < 1301767064 98576 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: common lisp, scheme, oz, erlang, &c.) to infer types < 1301767067 958536 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :they sometimes fails yes. But they are always restarted. < 1301767073 613046 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, and Gregor's bots? < 1301767099 457862 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PERHAPS THE DOWNTIME IS NOT SO RANDOM AS WE HAVE BEEN LED TO THINK < 1301767124 275673 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, uh, I doubt that. < 1301767130 74925 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bots have much improved since I made the odd discovery that if you don't make any output but pongs for a prolonged period, Freenode will disconnect you. < 1301767147 933837 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1301767161 211260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you investigate this? < 1301767178 111429 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "investigate" < 1301767181 247069 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed it. < 1301767358 16725 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso, freenode does what? < 1301767359 840019 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you ask someone why the hell that happens? < 1301767384 882678 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301767721 752563 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I couldn't be arsed :P < 1301768140 465061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1301768341 367320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:36:34: ...ELISP is now lexically scoped. < 1301768345 94093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not by default alas < 1301768357 766752 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit. < 1301768364 420931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you set it at file scope < 1301768905 771509 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fizzie: does mcmap work with 1.4? < 1301769200 871099 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to make some code execute when a certain file's contents have been changed? < 1301769212 741021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which OS < 1301769217 182551 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows < 1301769234 333003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1301769241 448929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try Linux, then you can use inotify/FAM :P < 1301769325 869818 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I renember hearing there was a way to do this in Powershell, but i forgot what it said... < 1301769358 800746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconmaster: You can always just do a < 1301769376 344979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(;;) {sleep(1); if(readfile() != oldfilecontents) dosomething();} < 1301769377 148505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop. < 1301769384 18851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that'll wake up your CPU all the time. < 1301769387 238045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And have a 1s delay. < 1301769409 261191 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That will be good enough... What would that script do if the file was suddenly deleted? < 1301769425 456854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. readfile would fail. It's up to you to implement the actual guts :P < 1301769435 989365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also forgot to save the result of readfile to oldfilecontents there. < 1301769534 591095 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO basically for(;;) {sleep(1); $oldfile = (gc file); if((gc file) -ne $oldfile) {stuff} } < 1301769551 314891 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-74-80-196.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301769559 862949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1301769566 355269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That will almost never execute stuff. < 1301769597 816978 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a userscript of some sort that makes it impossible for scripts that automatically highlight blocks of text on a webpage to function, or do I have to write it myself? < 1301769599 641603 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works... but I need to fill in now. < 1301770599 172501 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-74-80-196.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1301770607 733863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301770893 894849 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301770895 89358 :copumpki_!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301770948 533361 :copumpki_!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 NICK :copumpkin < 1301770948 863700 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1301770949 27613 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301771179 267967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1301771236 86133 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301771324 329694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1301771377 777639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey ais523, /msg #esoteric-minecraft with something. < 1301771405 241564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: done so < 1301771418 766963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The novelty will never get old! < 1301771430 594811 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why don't you like minecraft < 1301771449 300571 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does that mean you are neutral towards it, or dislike it? < 1301771451 429357 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301771461 697824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: vague dislike, I'd say < 1301771472 663210 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you not HUMAN?? < 1301771492 196790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's trying to glue together two things that might be interesting on their own, to make the result less interesting < 1301771496 837782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :minecrakrt jsux because ls black black ops is teh bestset st game evar < 1301771499 908747 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what two things? < 1301771503 308829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, too few typos < 1301771504 138481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, it's because the player is MALE < 1301771511 902943 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1301771516 460336 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you can easily switch the skin < 1301771520 469452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sort of adventure game, and a sandboxy programming game < 1301771529 743438 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1301771530 647517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming game? < 1301771531 735304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you wouldn't try to combine Tomb Raider and Rubicon < 1301771543 716678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MC doesn't involve any programming unless you mean redstone < 1301771546 873491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although if you did, you might end up with something quite popular) < 1301771554 838956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, architecture < 1301771556 406126 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that sounds... wow < 1301771560 450309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which may or may not be programmatically interesting < 1301771570 320134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort-of like Lego < 1301771570 483446 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, 8 bit computer. Come on < 1301771598 253141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's electrical engineering < 1301771613 169490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Minecraft's one of those things that the majority of communities have their own server/area for playing, much like Mafia < 1301771626 110777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSVO majority < 1301771630 620699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Tomb Raider + Rubicon is a game I would play < 1301771657 158256 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm. Redstone Engineering < 1301771664 981990 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is minecraft multiplayer? < 1301771666 659609 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :redstone doesn't really work at all like transistors < 1301771671 175044 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, both < 1301771697 678914 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : also, Minecraft's one of those things that the majority of communities have their own server/area for playing, much like Mafia <-- yes. There is no official One True Server. < 1301771699 281276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no, it's always multiplayer < 1301771701 131758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHEEP ARE PEOPLE < 1301771702 817993 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is that an issue? < 1301771709 173528 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, riiigth < 1301771720 29591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's not an issue, but I did find it interesting < 1301772417 972379 :copumpki_!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301772424 847037 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301772522 556711 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301773079 117175 :copumpki_!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 NICK :copumpkin < 1301773080 266385 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1301773080 431301 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301773387 182859 :cheater00!~cheater@e181133079.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301773505 170244 :cheater99!~cheater@e181135247.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301776181 852822 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301776512 295954 :TLUL!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left JOIN :#esoteric < 1301778167 349476 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301778563 579912 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301778940 528285 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301779016 7878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEXICAL < 1301779520 29276 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEXI-CAL < 1301779547 151258 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lexi's in Hotel California < 1301779563 723385 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, Butcherer of Jokes < 1301779567 486398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sexical. < 1301779965 991252 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301779965 991382 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :S Q L < 1301779965 991492 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301779970 994717 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301779970 994841 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :S Q L < 1301779998 151932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch2: hmm, are you a spambot? < 1301780004 252826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just have an unusually small lexicon? < 1301780031 705105 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301780036 420088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you hurt its feelings. < 1301780089 876678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: say sorry. < 1301780101 508768 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1301780108 947484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha < 1301780118 593130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why do you find this funny! < 1301780158 981865 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301780158 981959 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i hate you :( < 1301780164 663985 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1301780233 714845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think you've really hurt its feelings. < 1301780235 344936 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch2: GO DIE IN A FIRE < 1301780254 344745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch2: hello! < 1301780257 200501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch2: do you want to be friends < 1301780272 889608 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch2: elliott's a douchebag, don't listen to him < 1301780302 207572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I just compared the IPs < 1301780313 961115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea that ch2 = elliott, and it's using the same IP that elliott was yesterday < 1301780314 126776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what IPs? < 1301780324 319024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a dynamic ip < 1301780331 316411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, but it's still quite a coincidence < 1301780337 852669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. very. clearly it is fate < 1301780339 687804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch2: hi < 1301780339 967027 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's elliot from the past! < 1301780354 423483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1301780356 515893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG < 1301780358 394151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS < 1301780389 835643 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sorry < 1301780393 756049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1301780402 45253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame, there's no #multics < 1301780416 278216 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two t's in elliott's name are having wild, hot, passionate sex even as we speak. < 1301780427 906044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gross. < 1301780432 89549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliot________t < 1301780437 905283 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no funny business! < 1301780514 335513 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301780524 890818 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301780524 890970 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i hate you :( < 1301780543 996035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot________t: hmm, is ch2 a hatredbot? < 1301780553 784464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, it was an S Q L bot first, but is a hatredbot now? < 1301780580 732581 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, you just upset it < 1301780651 469911 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rw-r--r-- 1 elliott elliott 110K 2011-04-02 22:42 logs.sqlite3 < 1301780652 483217 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ragh < 1301780655 309712 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hands keep slipping < 1301780655 988259 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1301780684 537576 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301780766 637261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's a logbot that isn't Herobrine? < 1301780786 507978 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch2: how do you respond to this accusation that you're not Herobrine? < 1301780853 496982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*isn't called Herobrine < 1301780866 673694 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whoises ch2 to find out its name < 1301780910 823639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot________t: so did I, I'm not convinced it's called Herobrine based on its realname data < 1301780929 690759 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ship of theseus! < 1301780981 803463 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: ch2 is at war with glogbot innit < 1301781017 845504 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbot is Switzerland. < 1301781031 961703 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you mean Swizterland. < 1301781039 621066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought .ch meant Switzerland < 1301781056 202504 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well ch2 is Switzerland too! < 1301781061 21883 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET < 1301781061 967486 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT < 1301781064 264677 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301781880 583345 :elliot________t!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1301781891 734307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyway, ch2 and glogbot are actually in a completely illict relationship* < 1301781894 274097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*FSVO illicit < 1301781897 436404 :MigoMipo_!~John@84-217-10-31.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301781900 785321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISN'T THAT RIGHT GREGOR < 1301781903 332134 :ch2!~ch2@91.104.240.103 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301781909 571585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP* < 1301781944 685016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear to god, pipe() is the most annoying possible interface. < 1301781962 112795 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it isn't. < 1301781989 956129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the way it takes an array as arg, /and/ returns the arguments the other way round from what you'd expect, in the array? < 1301781998 708161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, it's quite a clever interface for what it's trying to do < 1301782007 480839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, yes, but also the fact that I just want to spawn a process and hook into its input and output. < 1301782023 588934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And having to call pipe twice, keep track of the indices, and hook it all up with dup, is super annoying. < 1301782027 91109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm not sure how POSIX-portable that is. < 1301782035 420529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dup() is, it seems. < 1301782037 818991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And dup2(). < 1301782045 924144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pipe() too, but not pipe2(). < 1301782053 280053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("pipe too but not pipe too" X-D) < 1301782094 39237 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-31.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301782318 755135 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301782324 775 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301782750 882582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I could use a hash tree as a storage method. < 1301782821 995071 :Lymia!~moe@adsl-69-149-32-60.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301782822 276488 :Lymia!~moe@adsl-69-149-32-60.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net QUIT :Changing host < 1301782822 440328 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1301782861 884093 :MigoMipo_!~John@84-217-10-31.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301783000 700913 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Storage of what? < 1301783155 19125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Objects. < 1301784112 172371 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301784118 952998 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1301784126 23813 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1301784133 985166 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION unfairly blames calamari for PSOX < 1301784281 472924 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I came across an interesting mental challenge (well, interesting to me anyways). in a normal round-robin tournament, players are matched in pairs. but let's say the game has 3 sides (for example, chinese checkers, you could play a triangle of 3 of the 6 tips). if every player must play against each other player exactly once, what's the algorithm to optimize for the least number of matches? < 1301784355 792782 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are definitely substandard combos.. for example if I have 6 players and I do 1-2-3 then 4-5-6, then I must have 9 additional matches with just 2 players < 1301784394 226607 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends on your goal < 1301784405 373930 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could see the goal of a round robin tournament to be to test every permutation of players < 1301784410 212083 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case your premise is flawed < 1301784422 514122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So some kind of general handshake problem> < 1301784433 666873 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stated every player must play each other player exactly once < 1301784460 952124 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't mean you specifically so much as you generally; i wouldn't expect to see a round robin tournament such as you've laid out < 1301784461 690633 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1301784527 348172 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see what you're saying < 1301784628 74822 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah as I stated was correct < 1301784648 605035 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :best I could find for 6 players was 7 matches, 3 with an empty seat < 1301784671 756999 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up the handshaking problem < 1301784712 384355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except not as easy to manipulate. < 1301784774 409378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any number of players, other than 3, for which it's doable with no matches with empty seats? < 1301784789 700836 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.devenezia.com/round-robin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1224605375 < 1301784802 458690 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 rounds, no empty seats < 1301784853 368557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's impressive < 1301784859 667889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose multiples of 9, it's easy < 1301784874 230918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works like Sudoku < 1301784883 679239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit, at least < 1301784897 756519 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :appears to be some software called hsmaster which can generate round robins for 3 player games(?) < 1301785095 262145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1301785322 610982 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :strawman < 1301785525 994863 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301785541 618902 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1301785545 264858 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: link? < 1301785568 457635 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1301785575 287525 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → food < 1301785619 328078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1301785785 373827 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can google it as easily as i? < 1301785796 846178 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only came across a video of someone showing how to use it, didn't bother to actually look up the app < 1301785802 630473 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looked old and dated and maybe not like it would run on xp < 1301785802 809610 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1301785813 914107 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also may have misunderstood < 1301785870 632732 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I didn't search videos < 1301785901 644109 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (In other news, a brief hello from Turku, the okocity.) < 1301786007 809842 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The unusual dialect in this city is due to rampant sound change, which has worn all vowels and diphthongs down to o, and all consonants and consonant combinations down to k. how the people here manage to understand each other is a mystery to linguists. especially in writing." < 1301786035 462057 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*H *E < 1301786065 193949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if only you'd got it right first time, it would have been great < 1301786066 254978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, o < 1301786075 883406 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1301786158 386471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1301786171 926026 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :koko (new official name of Turku) < 1301786503 627888 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERASE LAST SIX LINES < 1301786505 830984 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1301786941 867033 :cheater-!~cheater@g228060032.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301787099 389784 :cheater00!~cheater@e181133079.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301787226 987574 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1301787270 737364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1301787272 814916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT WAS ERASED < 1301787283 115140 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CANNOT RECALL < 1301787661 69122 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ("pipe too but not pipe too" X-D) < 1301787665 435945 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the question < 1301787767 500086 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it nobler to socket blah blah blah bad pun blah blah < 1301787808 548254 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, _you_ can socket. < 1301787850 176050 :TLUL!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left QUIT :Quit: *disappears in a puff of orange smoke* < 1301787928 662113 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301787936 658139 :strawman!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1301788161 715131 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301788248 633599 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1301788310 80626 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll socket your plug any day, oerjan baby ;-* < 1301788333 516040 :strawman!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301788337 270321 :strawman!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 NICK :copumpkin < 1301788337 639498 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1301788337 803813 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301788604 413109 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :strawman