s :/ < 1302878852 116651 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like anything that has /neither/ the day of the day of the day of the day nor the matrix of solidity. < 1302878863 299628 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, I'll fix it ... < 1302878974 67715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: -_- < 1302878984 217203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Realise that people actually land on our main page :P < 1302879012 573300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm all for the creation of an Alternate Universe Cthulhian Horror Main Page. < 1302879027 710184 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DONE < 1302879051 734839 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*watches it be reverted* < 1302879063 266757 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302879167 32106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION applies IRON FIST
< 1302879180 335417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to figure out how to work the community portal in there so we can get endless new generations of irritating newbies flocking here.
< 1302879206 412051 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's right. I actually ADDED something. < 1302879228 853761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to work in a more NOTICEABLE link :P < 1302879233 30939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, shit < 1302879245 586036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rounded corners don't work on Mozilla because they use -moz- properties despite there being CSS3 names for it < 1302879257 521645 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, it's like you lock yourSELF in a matrix of solidity. < 1302879526 702367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rearranges the community portal article to emphasise IRC over, you know, the totally dead mailing list.
< 1302879765 990050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I will accept that >_> < 1302879777 157616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purely because FUCK SCREEN READERS < 1302879779 810139 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1302879985 692748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kay, community portal now has the IRC channel in big letters :P < 1302880002 864320 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what screen readers has to do with it though ... < 1302880017 386402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: < 1302880045 841329 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's odd, it put it on the alt too. < 1302880056 52264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what that wiki syntax feature is FOR :P < 1302880058 997462 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I cared about was title=, which it put on the surrounding for whatever reason. < 1302880063 539207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yar :P < 1302880074 667750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, woo, we have a decent main page now. < 1302880085 99068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can point people at it without pages of clarification as to wtf the wiki is about :P < 1302880119 237549 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfff < 1302880122 287376 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Massively disappointing. < 1302880125 974167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1302880151 128195 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was how I checked the date. < 1302880158 584024 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I'm the only person who knew when it was March 32nd. < 1302880162 951734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1302880182 187032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It was, in fact, March 32nd even four hours into April 2nd. < 1302880193 535174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The magic of Christmas. < 1302880196 449955 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :March 32nd is the longest day of the year. < 1302880213 543937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duh, I know *that*. I did update the main page for it, you know. < 1302880214 151164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1302880253 55213 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should add a "Did you know?" feature with the only caption under it being "... that this 'did you know' feature will never be updated?" < 1302880293 784577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the best idea I've heard all day except for all the good ideas I've heard all day. < 1302880295 430268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also all the bad ones. < 1302880306 503721 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lies. < 1302880317 541144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, the lime sidebar was originally gonna have more navigational stuff in it, but it turns out I pretty much covered everything :P < 1302880329 91703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's just... trilime on lilac. < 1302880379 917427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With ugly aliased edges 8D < 1302880415 554476 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those edges are the afterglow of a solidity matrix matrix-matrix multiplication. < 1302880472 467392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep, brah. < 1302880597 348765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: btw I put your logs first in the community portal 8D < 1302880606 160248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly because they have the pre-2011 logs without downloading a zip file. < 1302880650 125223 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the future of tomorrow's yesterday. < 1302880734 921599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1302881031 793993 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone come be locked in ##matrixofsolidity < 1302881070 772701 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-70-162.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1302881089 317470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : This channel is unofficial lies. #matrixofsolidity is the OFFICIAL matrix of solidity. < 1302881098 667263 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PS there is no talking in the matrix of solidity. < 1302881113 390835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean in the FAKE matrix of solidity. < 1302881189 124627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It is solved. < 1302881192 421545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ChanServ is anti-solidity. < 1302881250 298114 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't decide if I prefer that there's no topic whatsoever. < 1302881472 989317 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-24-193.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1302881687 1716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You think the matrix of solidity has this EARTHLY-PLANE concept of a "topic"? < 1302881700 607549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is not "no topic", there is simply the lack of the concept of topic, just as the matrix of solidity lacks ifofgjfdg. < 1302881704 907451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All it has is solidity. And matrix. < 1302881706 554500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, of. < 1302881729 84207 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a lock, although that's outside the matrix and is what's keeping us in, it's not part of the matrix of solidity proper. < 1302881754 705519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Uh, no. WE are the lock. < 1302881761 213651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We lock ourselves into the matrix of solidity, and cannot escape. < 1302881774 420197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idiot. You are a naive festering moron on these matters. Speak no more! < 1302881779 712921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The unenlightened must perish. < 1302881965 232839 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Those who do not willingly lock themselves in the #matrixofsolidity (and enjoy it) will be swept away by the Hand of Yahweasel | Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Some logs also available at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1302882138 894822 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.104.246.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1302882224 515143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1302882283 45762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1302882324 9371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP zeptobot some time -- some other time < 1302882353 980618 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of, I think glogbot belongs in #matrixofsolidity < 1302882364 221824 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We wouldn't want to miss any of that. < 1302882386 260662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1302882388 612890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yess < 1302882396 769427 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glogbot_join #matrixofsolidity < 1302882414 407874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day, when all other IRC channels are gone, we will have to join by using cycles as a kind of morse code. < 1302882425 436040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should ban everyone to prevent that. < 1302882445 895067 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then how are we to be locked in our matrix of solidity? < 1302882450 940393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the outside. < 1302882457 556876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Gregor's brain axplote* < 1302882460 945847 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.104.246.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302882461 931199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def x 42) < 1302882462 609758 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.104.246.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'str' < 1302882464 521315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1302882468 63252 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAIL < 1302882470 163744 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.104.246.204 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302882474 746969 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.104.246.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302882475 777525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def x 42) < 1302882476 114039 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.104.246.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> () < 1302882477 193390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: x < 1302882477 603554 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.104.246.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> 42 < 1302882481 187967 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.104.246.204 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302882711 353812 :elliott_!~elliott@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302882722 711202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1302882724 38258 :elliott_!~elliott@91.105.70.250 NICK :elliott < 1302882730 417323 :elliott!~elliott@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Changing host < 1302882730 568178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1302882745 316146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: omg #matrixofsolidity is violating freenode policy D: < 1302882746 714788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1302882749 871019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not-strong-policy :P < 1302882754 549330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no log link in topic or entry message :D < 1302882759 265816 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1302882767 786612 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNIC: 2k+/48 to Australia, /32 to India, 2x/32 to New Zealand, 1x/32 to Philippines < 1302882768 768121 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302882772 351272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def x 42) < 1302882773 257843 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> x < 1302882776 409819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: x < 1302882776 560411 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> 42 < 1302882788 306493 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: x < 1302882788 605301 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> 42 < 1302882788 755825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It only listens to #esoteric. < 1302882794 858878 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: def < 1302882795 479995 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (#primitive def) < 1302882803 851099 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def def '()) < 1302882804 195027 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> def < 1302882807 682837 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: def < 1302882809 535873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1302882809 768116 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> () < 1302882816 130362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :D8 < 1302882820 493078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MONSTER < 1302882843 312263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway, my wifi keeps crapping out POSSIBLY BECAUSE OF TORRENTS? < 1302882856 236697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: YOU CANNOT LEAVE YOUR MATRIX OF SOLIDITY < 1302882857 498704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RETURN < 1302882865 411555 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def y 84) < 1302882866 737361 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, nope. I found the key < 1302882867 474561 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> () < 1302882870 159254 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-D < 1302882874 106214 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently that 2k to AU is actually a return of 2k addresses. < 1302882877 922294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Sooo bastard < 1302882878 835534 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302882885 244040 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, did he part too? < 1302882887 897726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate you so much I'm gonna implement more features < 1302882890 402418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how much I hate you < 1302882897 139717 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HALLO I WURVE FEKKING UP DER BOTS < 1302882907 461904 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, wait what? Isn't APNIC out yet? < 1302882910 282484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, argument/type checking: < 1302882912 403912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if not isinstance(x, Pair) or not isinstance(x.car, Symbol) or not isinstance(x.cdr, Pair) or x.cdr.cdr is not NIL: < 1302882912 908053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : return Symbol.intern('u a fuka') < 1302882914 54239 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, was it a false alarm yesterday!? < 1302882936 615859 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is this ipv6 now? < 1302882939 971704 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, must be < 1302882962 34642 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: As said, that 2k is apparently a return, not a real allocation. < 1302883005 674952 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, you Australia returned it to APNIC? < 1302883115 831501 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, not a return, a transfer. < 1302883125 760389 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302883130 838551 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1302883132 719684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map quote '(a b c)) < 1302883133 306773 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> ((c) ()) < 1302883137 889984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1302883151 135197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval '(42 42 42)) < 1302883151 331896 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (42 ()) < 1302883155 496021 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: def < 1302883156 448428 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (#primitive def) < 1302883158 552035 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh good :P < 1302883167 986087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (#primitive def) < 1302883170 567163 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> () < 1302883170 795852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :8D < 1302883172 425409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fakeprinting ahoy < 1302883180 519657 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: "Strings?" < 1302883181 331964 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> () < 1302883187 935431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Nope. Those are SYMBOLS < 1302883191 506668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: '"Strings!!! Strings" < 1302883191 783880 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> "strings!!! strings" < 1302883194 17704 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, figgered. < 1302883203 459223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def "A wonderful place to live" 'Hell) < 1302883204 72605 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> "a wonderful place to live" < 1302883208 93910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: "A wonderful place to live" < 1302883208 315715 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> hell < 1302883209 914709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: '"A wonderful place to live" < 1302883210 108530 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> "a wonderful place to live" < 1302883217 827776 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def def '"Permission denied.") < 1302883217 979957 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently APNIC screwed up a bit with those debogon blocks. < 1302883218 508113 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> def < 1302883223 23789 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1302883226 629215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: so much hate < 1302883233 433204 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def x 42) < 1302883233 677748 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Symbol' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302883243 556531 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, not quite what I wanted, but I'll take it :P < 1302883248 619753 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302883252 137321 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm done redefining def :P < 1302883254 290137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No error handling yet or anything :P < 1302883254 760993 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302883261 248716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval '(42)) < 1302883261 802263 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (42) < 1302883264 963266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval '(42 42)) < 1302883266 899483 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (42) < 1302883268 864318 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (+ 2 2) < 1302883269 89104 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> () < 1302883269 297291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1302883295 328253 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302883299 783138 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302883301 895667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval '(42 42)) < 1302883302 195745 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (()) < 1302883305 6435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1302883306 654534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval '(42)) < 1302883306 949036 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (()) < 1302883314 554556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO MUCH HATRED < 1302883321 34485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1302883322 360388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (42) < 1302883323 165128 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302883327 415886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1302883340 273263 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302883344 761784 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302883346 635932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval '(42)) < 1302883346 814524 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (()) < 1302883352 606783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyyy < 1302883354 558225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval '(42 42)) < 1302883354 708512 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (()) < 1302883356 970815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval '(42 42 42)) < 1302883357 448680 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (()) < 1302883363 140162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you mock me < 1302883366 152372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1302883370 346228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am dumb turded lol < 1302883406 734330 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302883413 762471 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302883415 24665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval '(42 42 42)) < 1302883415 227779 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (42 42 42 ()) < 1302883419 101911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1302883435 571759 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302883439 764625 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302883449 258626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: btw, all this insanity is working towards a function application system that changes if you change map :D < 1302883455 976847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it'll do (map eval args). < 1302883462 98195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval '(42 42 42)) < 1302883462 474553 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (42 42 42) < 1302883462 803270 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, those are real allocated blocks (e.g. the /10 "debogon" block was allocated to India (Block allocated to APNIC in India looked suspicious anyway, as APNIC is based on AU) but for few days had incorrect WHOIS info). < 1302883467 940786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map quote '(42 42 42)) < 1302883468 962495 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> ((42) (42) (42)) < 1302883472 276362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :8D < 1302883477 64281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map map '(42 42 42)) < 1302883478 281470 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> ("like you a ho" "like you a ho" "like you a ho") < 1302883482 955956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :8D < 1302883490 341632 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there will be no /10 block return from that. < 1302883491 371904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor wasn't expecting that. < 1302883590 861957 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302883615 783293 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302883617 152043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id 42) < 1302883617 303132 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302883622 134009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1302883702 67462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id id) < 1302883702 257527 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> () < 1302883704 812133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1302883706 343753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id) < 1302883706 569808 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> () < 1302883709 98426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id 1 2 3) < 1302883709 471971 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302883716 774345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id map quote '(42 42 42)) < 1302883717 2937 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302883722 406311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1302883737 31989 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... So APNIC is _really_ out (except for that reserved space inside 103/8 and perhaps some addresses currently too polluted to use). < 1302883742 335035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: yikes < 1302883825 817736 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302883829 775577 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302883831 577202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id 42) < 1302883831 727835 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302883838 388000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1302883862 107239 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302883866 768748 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302883868 62437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id 42) < 1302883868 212916 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302883870 705994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1302883970 937647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1302884004 120597 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302884025 774701 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302884027 24401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id 42) < 1302884027 174804 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> 42 < 1302884030 214966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id (x)) < 1302884030 510348 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> () < 1302884035 15931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1302884036 514120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id (42)) < 1302884036 693363 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302884040 849740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id 1 2 3) < 1302884041 14282 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> "no jew brotha" < 1302884132 279848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map id '((x))) < 1302884132 430397 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (()) < 1302884133 890129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map id '((x)))) < 1302884134 45982 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! ParseFail: Expected EOF but got ) < 1302884137 20078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map id '((x) (y))) < 1302884137 170791 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (() ()) < 1302884141 305796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh. < 1302884167 131213 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302884171 789963 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302884172 861568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map id '((x) (y))) < 1302884173 12151 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> ((x) (y)) < 1302884176 46257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now watch this < 1302884185 550174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def a-list '((x) (y))) < 1302884185 738973 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> a-list < 1302884194 624954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def quote 42) < 1302884194 775688 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> quote < 1302884196 435594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (id a-list) < 1302884196 590160 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302884203 976845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map eval a-list) < 1302884204 157298 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302884209 161569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: LOOK, YOU CAN BREAK EVERYTHING 8d < 1302884288 316093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott, but apart from the missing stuff it looks better < 1302884305 847282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The missing stuff is deliberately omitted due to taking up space that could be used for useful navigational pointers for first-time visitors :P < 1302884308 806668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott, aww, do it with CSS and

s :/ < 1302884312 587311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :

and are blocked by the server. < 1302884317 314512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best you can do is

and . < 1302884346 922866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additionally, the CSS required to get a two-equal-columns layout like that without "display: table" (giving the same result but with even stupider tags and more code) will be blocked by MediaWiki since it involves background images and shit. < 1302884505 252087 :cheater00!~cheater@g229029089.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1302884592 33630 :cheater-!~cheater@g230231131.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1302884769 841640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME TO MAKE MY WIFI DIE AGAIN :DDDDDD < 1302884919 218530 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :

and are blocked by the server. <-- huh, they worked on other wikis I edited on < 1302884929 720859 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, div at least. Never really tried span < 1302885022 341489 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Quit: Daemon escaped from pentagram < 1302885051 860781 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I seem to remember there is a way to have two

with style floating, with background colour. And some sort of

---

with special attributes to make it invisible and also force the placement of those floating things to work. clear: both or something iirc. Not sure if that would work with all the media wiki "fluff" around it < 1302885052 49645 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1302885139 26920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :

and are blocked by the server. <-- huh, they worked on other wikis I edited on < 1302885141 309512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-spam. < 1302885145 784176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott, I seem to remember there is a way to have two

with style floating, with background colour. And some sort of

---

with special attributes to make it invisible and also force the placement of those floating things to work. clear: both or something iirc. Not sure if that would work with all the media wiki "fluff" around it < 1302885149 799353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: this is less hacky than a table? < 1302885186 523013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly, it's not like using a bunch of divs is any more semantic or easier for a screen reader than tables < 1302885207 499253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you use html 5 elements and css 3 to avoid all extraneous styling wrappers for perfect semanticity with perfect design < 1302885209 658850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONGRATULATIONS < 1302885216 196454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just wasted like five hours on something with absolutely zero benefit < 1302885360 139109 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: this is less hacky than a table? <-- I didn't say that < 1302885446 56998 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I tend to do simple designs. Think somewhat less fancy than http://cr.yp.to/ ;) < 1302885480 601047 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, scratch that, I tend to set bg and fg colours with css. < 1302885811 771578 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302886551 357933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: '2 < 1302886551 559477 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302886677 827385 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1302886911 209965 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1302888513 497163 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1302888520 23373 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gentlemen < 1302888539 658216 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All our base are belong to us! < 1302888549 113345 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly. < 1302888593 948436 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm having issues with a Befunge program, and I was wondering if you might know the answer < 1302888615 924498 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1302888624 583545 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm testing out the NCRS fingerprint with a simple print statement, but it's throwing itself into a constant loop. < 1302888626 107683 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody might, and that somebody is almost assuredly on this channel, but that somebody is also almost assuredly not me X-P < 1302888633 639664 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1302888647 746103 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just post the code I've got to see if anyone can show me my error. < 1302888649 195000 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SRCN"4(1I"lol"SR0I)@ < 1302888675 537960 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to only print once, but it goes on ad infinum. < 1302888688 309943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, fizzie, Deewiant are the ones who know Befunge-98 < 1302888700 768299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't count, I only implemented the damn thing < 1302888706 877677 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1302888719 962903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :leBMD: enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity :-) < 1302888721 297746 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your "lol" should probably have a 0 underneath, at least. < 1302888722 610329 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually using Deewiant's interpreter right now < 1302888727 206573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pah < 1302888728 648598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiro is better! < 1302888732 489415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it doesn't support NCRS is immaterial < 1302888752 931795 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I would think S will also pop the NCRS fingerprint-id and that 1 off, and then ) won't unload it but reflect instead. < 1302888848 911891 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now it isn't printing anything at all... < 1302888864 738193 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you try? < 1302888870 698153 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though thanks for the 0 suggestion, that's probably my problem < 1302888885 394459 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SRCN"4(1I11M"lol"0SR0I)@ < 1302888888 461130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thought that was a joke < 1302888894 103952 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, you want 0"lol"S. < 1302888894 258187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : lol < 1302888894 757485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Your "lol" should probably have a 0 underneath, at least. < 1302888910 532833 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not "lol"0S; that will print the empty string and leave "lol" on the stack. < 1302888915 53234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :leBMD: do you like our magnificent new wiki frontpage < 1302888918 235548 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1302888920 220046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's got electrolytes < 1302888937 415921 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty beautiful < 1302888941 107702 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The 0I might also clear out the screen.) < 1302889285 915348 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1302889408 215604 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://esolangs.org/forum/kareha.pl/1302671493/l50 lololololol < 1302889422 745750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1302889527 866210 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to replace "It remains to be seen whether this experiment will prove successful. " now :P < 1302889547 321598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: X_X < 1302889628 531352 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1302889747 28591 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if any of you guys know of an example program in Befunge that uses NCRS, I'd be grateful. So far I can't make heads or tails of what I'm doing wrong. < 1302889788 942341 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://iki.fi/deewiant/befunge/mycology.html < 1302889818 90220 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1302889821 631105 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Specifically, mycoterm.b98) < 1302890093 895434 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I NOTICE YOU HAVE NOT LOCKED YOURSELF IN THE MATRIX OF SOLIDITY < 1302890178 117624 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :True enough, I suppose < 1302890247 403874 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On August 9, 2007, in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, Johnson & Johnson (J&J) filed suit against the American Red Cross alleging trademark infringement.[22] The suit seeks to halt the placement of the Red Cross emblem on all first aid, safety and disaster preparedness products not specifically licensed by Johnson & Johnson. The suit also asks for the destruction of all currently existing non-J&J Red Cr < 1302890247 636066 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oss emblem-bearing products of this type, and demands the American Red Cross pay punitive damages and J&J's legal fees." < 1302890250 421053 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....THE FUCK? < 1302890352 730117 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL MONEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN BABIES LIVES < 1302890361 814880 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the J&J slogan. < 1302890473 405601 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnson & Johnson: A family-killing company. < 1302890509 458572 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, what was the outcome of it? < 1302890519 538728 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :J&J lost < 1302890532 121179 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emblems_of_the_International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#Johnson_.26_Johnson_v._American_Red_Cross < 1302890559 878242 :News-Ham!~News-Ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302890560 286096 :News-Ham!~News-Ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1302890570 429067 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That snippet should probably clarify that it was only about stuff Red Cross sold retail. < 1302890633 967839 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though they still rather deservedly lost.) < 1302890934 930945 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, Deewiant. It's helping a good deal. < 1302891034 776475 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, first time I've seen Mycology cause anything but pain and suffering ;) < 1302891119 92431 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302891124 384177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey news-ham! < 1302891128 427575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah < 1302891128 733845 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302891173 533390 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1302891211 43714 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, I'm still getting an endless stream of "lol wut," but now it's organized and I can at least look at something else to see what's up. < 1302891211 886562 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ... what is the news without ham? < 1302891246 177374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gaah, connection lag, I hates it. < 1302891253 891063 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302891254 464519 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302891256 178178 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SRCN"4(n1Ina"tuw lol"SRnI)@ < 1302891258 12274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1302891259 925857 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302891263 311737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey news-ham, you're my favourite news-giving ham. Give me some news right now. < 1302891271 948338 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not totally sure why it keeps looping, but I'm making progress. < 1302891279 633416 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poverty 'hitting pupils' studies': Many pupils living in poverty come to school hungry, tired and in worn-out clothes, a survey by the teachers' union ATL suggests. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13081777 < 1302891279 788838 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302891283 896027 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302891285 789021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey news-ham, you're my favourite news-giving ham. Give me some news right now. < 1302891291 223152 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tories 'out of the comfort zone': The Conservatives say they have a programme that would take them "out of their comfort zone" as they publish their Welsh assembly manifesto. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-politics-13083291 < 1302891291 608919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE YOU NEWS HAM < 1302891293 854977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1302891299 393975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: More news please. < 1302891301 548994 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comeback kid: Fidel Castro is well again, but does he still have power? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-latin-america-13047948 < 1302891317 478585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I am afraid you are now surplus to requirements. < 1302891321 864842 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: More news please. < 1302891323 435899 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Croatians convicted of war crimes: Two Croatian military leaders are jailed for war crimes committed in the 1990s, provoking anger in Zagreb where many regard them as war heroes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-europe-13092438 < 1302891324 999580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The News Ham delivers all we could possibly want. < 1302891336 520734 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ham and news! < 1302891348 934220 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: If you keep spewing news, I will KILL YOUR AUTHOR. < 1302891350 323223 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clashes at mass protest in Syria: Security forces in the Syrian capital Damascus use tear gas and batons on thousands of anti-government protesters trying to march on the city centre. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13097926 < 1302891357 691861 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets his dirk.
< 1302891371 20195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: Who's the sexiest < 1302891373 452632 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Winding-up order for Wrexham FC: Wrexham FC are issued with a winding up order by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs over a debt of almost £200,000. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-13101239 < 1302891378 557418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incorrect, Wrexham FC is not the sexiest < 1302891380 773282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are the sexiest bot. < 1302891406 40805 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh baby < 1302891432 736971 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it bestiality or necrophilia to have sex with ham? < 1302891444 878862 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :leBMD: What's on the stack at the ) has to be what's on the stack after a ( (well, it doesn't have to, but it usually is), and n clears the stack, so the stack is empty when you hit the ), so it reflects. < 1302891458 415010 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is news-ham a bot? < 1302891459 367502 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defiant Yemen leader holds rally: Yemen's President Ali Abdullah Saleh addresses large crowds in the capital, Sanaa, denouncing protesters as huge opposition rallies are held elsewhere. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13098338 < 1302891466 200897 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham, shut up :P < 1302891467 740893 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japan orders nuclear compensation: Japan orders the operator of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant to pay provisional compensation to about 48,000 affected families. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-asia-pacific-13090304 < 1302891472 689097 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham, seriously < 1302891473 277454 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bail for Indian social activist: India's Supreme Court grants bail to leading public health specialist and human rights activist, Dr Binayak Sen. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-south-asia-13091521 < 1302891478 464317 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1302891486 421416 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is it triggered on highlight < 1302891490 547851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Stop pinging it then, you moron. < 1302891501 535089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The News Ham dispenses news when asked to. < 1302891502 718972 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I beat you to that discovery < 1302891506 556740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is its only purpose in life, apart from being a ham. < 1302891510 490133 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, who's idea is this? < 1302891510 651790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It achieves both admirably. < 1302891520 987394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it has a third purpose, which is to be written in PicoLisp. At that, too, it excels. < 1302891540 546862 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, isn't the last one a boolean? < 1302891547 593718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Uh. Is Regenaxer addressing you? < 1302891560 76372 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (def gimmeastring '('"Foo?")) < 1302891560 233828 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! AttributeError: 'Integer' object has no attribute 'apply' < 1302891563 310585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: This is PH's idea; I have delightfully co-opted it and implemented it. < 1302891564 962625 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :: def < 1302891565 732426 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (#primitive def) < 1302891565 886965 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because I've been speaking in there < 1302891567 783777 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1302891569 155329 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah < 1302891569 327855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I broke all applications of anything :P < 1302891572 222101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The agricultural thing :P < 1302891575 928477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I broke quote. < 1302891576 653809 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Ah, good :P < 1302891576 811958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: quote < 1302891577 247867 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> 42 < 1302891579 254369 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how many bots in this channel now? < 1302891580 154738 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1302891580 436136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: This then ripples to everything else. < 1302891587 736700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Because the whole system is designed to use parts of it, even the primities :P < 1302891591 288112 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea about agricutural stuff < 1302891602 176070 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Betcha if you rewrite PicoLisp in Fythe, it'll be faster and/or slower than the original implementation! < 1302891613 229613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So e.g. any function that evaluates its arguments depends on eval, quote, and map. < 1302891618 830820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, PicoLisp is pretty fast for an interpreter :P < 1302891627 638447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan to write a mini-Lisp on Fythe when I get the chance though. < 1302891637 239965 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why not make it JIT? < 1302891640 802575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: btw, are you still working on that agricultural system? < 1302891642 265804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what was that about < 1302891643 797810 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also, got a link to picolisp? < 1302891647 13377 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no idea < 1302891673 726094 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :software-lab.de/doc/ which is not linked to from anywhere < 1302891675 831470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Why not make what JIT? Fythe? < 1302891684 470916 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://home.picolisp.com < 1302891689 380609 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, picolisp < 1302891692 89635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://picolisp.com/5000/-2.html is the PicoLisp web site. < 1302891694 78639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*website. < 1302891696 504811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jfgi < 1302891699 273884 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, or Fythe < 1302891716 217359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PicoLisp is highly reliant on eval. < 1302891720 157832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JITting wouldn't help much *shrug* < 1302891744 936063 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1302891749 880971 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and for Fythe? < 1302891766 400857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Fythe is already a JIT ...... < 1302891770 629830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's its whole entire reason for existing. < 1302891771 488034 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1302891791 743521 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me, I want to write the World's Worst JIT: A library that you spit C into, it executes gcc -O3 on it and dlopens the result, then gives you the function ref :P < 1302891802 420828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's been done :P < 1302891823 468958 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGUABLY if you use it in concert with a better fast JIT, it's not even that bad, it's your hotspot JIT :P < 1302891845 629283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, news-ham likes newsham, foul rumours to the contrary notwithstanding. < 1302891846 212996 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chile to exhume ex-leader Allende: A Chilean court orders the exhumation of Salvador Allende to determine whether the former leader was murdered or killed himself. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-latin-america-13096836 < 1302891855 105895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it likes it so much that it wants to tab-complete whenever newsham was. < 1302891858 78199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also, have newsham's name. < 1302891861 731943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also, replace newsham's skin. < 1302891867 629169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*likes him < 1302891877 660381 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I wonder if it would be possible to JIT eval. Of course not in general, but perhaps for some patterns of eval it might be possible to somehow speed up their execution in a JIT-like fashion. Say if you have something (obviously not in lisp this...) like eval(name_of_variable + " := something"); < 1302891889 576446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: fythe < 1302891894 420364 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it does that? < 1302891896 232544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, what you said made no sense < 1302891898 37319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't tell which < 1302891904 405076 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: See: My upcoming paper at ECOOP :P < 1302891907 682467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1302891919 111909 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what I'm saying is that a JIT could optimise *some* instances of eval. < 1302891920 852054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal has the retarded ideas, Gregor has the retarded implementation. < 1302891928 283553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I snark from the sidelines, retardedly. < 1302891929 258255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A perfect team! < 1302891939 218231 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Naw, the paper just reports on the real-world reported code and gives some suggestions. < 1302891967 210248 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, well, I'll just give my time machine a whirl, and come back when I read it then < 1302891987 550442 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: DONE DEAL. < 1302891996 54865 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be reflecting at R for some reason. < 1302891997 600019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw http://esolangs.org/wiki/Funciton is an awesome language and everyone should check it out right now. < 1302892014 116520 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, back. Very interesting. < 1302892021 208328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: You're the old ham. < 1302892022 815124 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Winding-up order for Wrexham FC: Wrexham FC are issued with a winding up order by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs over a debt of almost £200,000. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-13101239 < 1302892057 438991 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Programs use the Unicode box-drawing characters to create a graphical representation of data flow. BEST EVER < 1302892067 554148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBC News comments: unbelievably stupid? < 1302892069 734961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As I gay man I wouldn't feel comfortable if two men were kissing if I was in a straight pub with members of my family for instance - so I agree with the landlord's judgement . I believe tolerance should flow both ways." < 1302892077 425998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL there is such a thing as a "straight pub" < 1302892101 871786 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway, I don't think my idea is retarded as such. It might however not be very useful to implement what I suggested. Depends on how common optimisable eval constructs are. Lots of trade-offs there < 1302892117 283829 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SRCN"4(1Ia"tuw lol"SR0I)@ < 1302892141 316921 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There's no such thing as a straight pub because of the REPRESSIVE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA. < 1302892168 680626 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :leBMD, I believe 0I will clear the screen. You might want to make it wait before going there. < 1302892176 563745 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait, maybe that is what R does < 1302892186 347449 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't remember the details of every fingerprint) < 1302892189 80178 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :R refreshes, but it's also reflecting for some reason. < 1302892225 297386 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :leBMD, well, check if it takes any parameters, then check what you have on stack. If you are using ccbi (pretty sure you said you were), it has a good debugger. < 1302892226 607443 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0C clears the screen < 1302892240 288854 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1302892284 437235 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :leBMD, well, 0I will clear the screen most likely, since it will call ncurses functions to restore the state of the terminal. On my screen that results in clearing clearing the screen and getting back whatever was there before. < 1302892301 815765 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose this might vary between different terminal emulators < 1302892340 121898 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the lines are showing up, it just shows 20 lines of "tuw lollol wut" (my original string is "lol wut" < 1302892363 238436 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, fythe looks extremely interesting. Do you have any sorts of benchmarks comparing it to other JIT engines, such as the llvm one? < 1302892380 872293 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SRCN"4(1Ia"tuw lol"SR0I)@ is again missing the 0 for the string. < 1302892382 281792 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Not enough implemented. < 1302892389 426824 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay < 1302892394 729794 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, and that too < 1302892400 80934 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually as of quite recently basically everything is implemented :P < 1302892405 747140 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no benchmarks have been yet. < 1302892422 17983 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302892464 913912 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302892467 248643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham science_and_technology < 1302892468 111118 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Webscape: Cartoons and synthesisers: How British protests are being affected by the digital revolution http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13078297 < 1302892474 968832 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I replace a with 0, then it's blank for a second before an explosion of text. < 1302892520 661862 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rcfunge98.com/rcfunge2_manual.html#NCRS doesn't list R at all. (Of course NCRS is not a RCS-defined fingerprint, so that's not definitive.) < 1302892529 579710 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, what sort of optimisation does it perform? Stuff like optimising on the fly for common cases is quite interesting I find. < 1302892554 17517 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Fythe only has a fast template JIT thusfar. < 1302892563 315711 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay < 1302892564 685006 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CFythe, that is) < 1302892566 900200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really fast :P < 1302892600 312012 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lists R at the 3rd bullet point. < 1302892609 936923 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been using http://sprunge.us/AQBP < 1302892615 341980 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that may be my error < 1302892616 651785 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, so it doesn't look at the generated code to try to eliminate non-needed instructions? Say, removing a zeroing of a register that is in this case already zero? < 1302892622 987611 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302892624 96227 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, ccbi-2.1/src/ccbi/fingerprints/jvh/ncrs.d seems to implement R, so that's all right. < 1302892626 916762 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302892630 746788 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302892640 919384 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302892642 768263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham biz < 1302892644 216289 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lecturers vow to fight job cuts: Andy Murray cruises through to a semi-final against Rafael Nadal with a straight-sets defeat of Frederico Gil in the Monte Carlo Masters. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/sport1/hi/tennis/13096672.stm < 1302892649 724671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sci < 1302892650 275094 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The story of our rooms: A pub in London's Soho locks its doors before a planned "kiss-in" protest by hundreds of gay rights' protesters. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13085653 < 1302892656 878275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so that's not working then < 1302892663 564032 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gay science. < 1302892671 518262 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302892678 925121 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302892682 236832 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Like I said, it's a template JIT, it does no optimizations of the generated code. I'm focusing on the fast JIT for the moment, a good hotspot JIT will (might) come later. < 1302892690 63071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sci < 1302892691 524098 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debt advisers closed down by OFT: Popular music streaming service Spotify has put caps on the amount of free music listeners can have. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13081777 < 1302892691 960890 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, only bbc? < 1302892701 526426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Got a better news source with RSS? < 1302892706 348819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302892707 755985 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Film found in church 'reveals Nazi guilt': Severe storms leave at least nine people dead and destroy school buildings and dozens of homes in the US states of Arkansas and Oklahoma. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-13098246 < 1302892708 671651 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, right < 1302892715 106994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't sound like arts. < 1302892715 990291 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh. Hm no. < 1302892730 515711 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sports < 1302892732 329159 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Royal wedding plans, US style: The Republic of Ireland's progress on cutting its deficit has been approved by international authorities, a condition of its 85bn-euro bail-out. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-south-asia-13091521 < 1302892732 483079 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: news.google.com has some feeds, http://www.google.com/support/news/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=59255 < 1302892736 320862 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope... < 1302892743 630385 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'd say it is broken indeed < 1302892751 602113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There is no sports. < 1302892754 133901 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: However, the other caveat is that Fythe itself is actually about as low-level as it can be while providing a few vital guarantees for higher-level languages, so there might actually not be too much to optimize at that level. < 1302892764 74916 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh okay, shouldn't it give an error message then? < 1302892768 233332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1302892777 705536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sports have a feed, actually. < 1302892780 271066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll integrate that in a minute. < 1302892783 374741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That as good as BBC? :P < 1302892783 896272 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham porn < 1302892784 552681 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vettel heads Hamilton in practice: Hamas condemns the murder of Italian pro-Palestinian activist Vittorio Arrigoni, found hanged in Gaza City hours after his abduction. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13100390 < 1302892798 381725 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, right. Common sub-expression elimination and some peephole optimisation might still be of interest though < 1302892806 652405 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tracer seems to freeze up once it steps past I. < 1302892814 422284 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, I mean, it's probably more variable and has more sources; of course not if by "good" you mean the content too. < 1302892821 81612 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Technically a smart transform can do CSE at a higher level than Fythe IR >: ) < 1302892821 235557 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :leBMD, oh right, ncurses messes up the terminal < 1302892840 615688 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Dynamic optimizations are what I'm more interested in *shrugs* < 1302892854 57118 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1302892892 352097 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302892895 920294 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302892896 510463 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, dead-store elimination and peephole both make sense at a very low level though. < 1302892902 889754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham arts < 1302892904 239030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1302892905 397639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302892908 502316 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY! < 1302892908 657775 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Live scores - Magners League: Coachellla unveils groundbreaking new stage and light show http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/sport1/hi/football/13092511.stm < 1302892913 646040 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about loop invariant, probably better done at a higher level < 1302892920 413319 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302892924 992225 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302892927 84772 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302892929 726332 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :football is not artistic < 1302892933 676523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed :D < 1302892939 65461 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302892940 738993 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Anyway, much still waits to be seen *shrugs* < 1302892941 40912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302892943 287236 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY! < 1302892943 439087 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :G20 finance ministers meet in US: China's economy continues to boom as inflation accelerates to the fastest rate since 2008. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13096021 < 1302892947 79566 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, quite < 1302892948 959164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1302892950 778453 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham porn god damn it porn < 1302892951 889914 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY! < 1302892952 44796 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stalled revolts: British artist Tracey Emin salutes a "spectacular" new gallery in Margate its founders hope will help regenerate the Kent seaside town. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/magazine-12483492 < 1302892952 840575 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1302892971 34092 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, bbc? porn? no. I doubt it. < 1302892974 696617 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1302892976 129091 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pornnews.com/feeds/rss < 1302892976 345122 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham, give me sound financial advice. < 1302892977 184377 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY! < 1302892977 341437 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polar bear Mercedes put to sleep: Lecturers at the University of Salford say they could strike over plans to cut more than 200 posts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13097926 < 1302892982 325050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I MADE AN AWESOME NEW HOME PAGE FOR US < 1302892984 291740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO YOU LIKE IT < 1302892990 802035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY MAIN PAGE < 1302893003 385066 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the moral of that news story: the polar bear is like my savings account. < 1302893010 538293 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: your hyphen is fooling NO ONE < 1302893012 280061 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY! < 1302893012 432004 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FBI closes in on zombie PC gang: Justice Minister David Ford says he will set up an independent review into the allegations made by the chief executive of the Police Ombudsman office. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/sport1/hi/formula_one/13090220.stm < 1302893018 567885 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must kill it at the university level. < 1302893023 177302 :zeptobot!~zeptobot@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302893026 972874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong bot < 1302893032 1830 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302893035 927963 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302893038 313013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302893039 171010 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you fail < 1302893039 977362 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY!... almost as good as you dying! < 1302893040 133340 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FE colleges 'charging lower fees': Popular music streaming service Spotify has put caps on the amount of free music listeners can have. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13091269 < 1302893050 368571 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh dear < 1302893051 227292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What are you implying to my good old friend The News Ham? < 1302893053 431497 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302893054 851822 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY!... almost as good as you dying! < 1302893055 6279 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ex-EastEnders star joins Corrie: Duke, Dash, Digby, Pickle - what was the first Dulux dog called? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13086654 < 1302893056 549744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He dispenses news, he's a ham, what more could you want! < 1302893057 696084 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it is a bot. < 1302893060 247759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY WON'T IT FILTER PROPERLY < 1302893061 719322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHYYYYY < 1302893078 204658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1302893079 505570 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham, will you go to prom with me? < 1302893080 610106 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY!... almost as good as you dying! < 1302893080 762377 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'A tonic to the nation': Andy Murray cruises through to a semi-final against Rafael Nadal with a straight-sets defeat of Frederico Gil in the Monte Carlo Masters. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/health-11442887 < 1302893082 274442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: express approval of my hard work kthxplz < 1302893114 166600 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302893118 62222 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302893119 659051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302893120 226276 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY!sportssports... almost as good as you dying! < 1302893120 379995 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Five hours to clean one boot for big day: A man jailed for murdering a mentally ill man in a hammer attack in Glasgow has his conviction quashed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13099147 < 1302893129 830459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sports, sports, almost as good as you dying. < 1302893134 30440 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302893150 138404 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, try to run the relevant function from a REPL? Might work better < 1302893158 197517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe your mom might work better just SAYING < 1302893160 807892 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even step through it in a debugger < 1302893165 731420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1302893165 890789 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :debuggers *are* useful < 1302893170 785606 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be a new irc bot, your mom. < 1302893174 25729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know picolisp's debugger. < 1302893179 491049 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1302893184 291820 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"your mom, what should I do?" "your homework!" < 1302893216 868114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (map car Topics) < 1302893217 85049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> (sports . sports) < 1302893217 935209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no. < 1302893227 700600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1302893229 59546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need mapcar < 1302893242 166897 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, see, the REPL *was* useful < 1302893252 906276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f u < 1302893255 26366 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302893257 97 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302893258 954912 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Car thief crashes through level crossing: The sister of a girl thought to have been murdered in a so-called "honour killing" admits robbing her family at their Cheshire home. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-latin-america-13047948 < 1302893263 424548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1302893265 178875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very artsy < 1302893275 320769 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it was an artful robbery! < 1302893276 905649 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very artsy < 1302893281 501783 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, murder < 1302893285 963255 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was modern art. < 1302893288 59 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302893297 219621 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, now it is broken it seems < 1302893333 172009 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'd better go do things like eat lunch and hang out with women or something of the sort. Seeya! < 1302893351 536287 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham live long and prosper < 1302893357 264676 :leBMD!~chatzilla@71-35-200-83.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726] < 1302893374 178318 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :who let the star trek nerd in? < 1302893418 650253 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Hey, you're not allowed to talk, Mr. No-I-Don't-Want-To-Be-Locked-In-A-Matrix-Of-Solidity < 1302893462 562207 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302893469 340031 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you love the main page or do you love the main page < 1302893485 956722 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : INSUFFICIENT DAY OF THE DAY OF THE DAY < 1302893495 554993 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :our site policies, so meta < 1302893505 955299 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S TAIIIILORRRRRREEED TO FIIIIRST TIIIIME VIIISIIIITOOOOOORS < 1302893511 178342 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The matrix of solidity is there if you look closely. < 1302893519 949820 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's EVERYWHERE) < 1302893521 932298 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.70.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1302893527 121455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1302893530 138925 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302893535 468162 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302893536 679462 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :David Jason returning to comedy: Popular music streaming service Spotify has put caps on the amount of free music listeners can have. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13092126 < 1302893545 349394 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham PORN < 1302893546 860899 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Royal wedding plans, US style: Hamas condemns the murder of Italian pro-Palestinian activist Vittorio Arrigoni, found hanged in Gaza City hours after his abduction. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13091091 < 1302893557 89996 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302893558 236952 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keys to play Albert Hall concert: Coachellla unveils groundbreaking new stage and light show http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13095810 < 1302893559 99759 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sci < 1302893559 590096 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EU's biofuel targets 'unethical': EDF Energy gave the BBC special access to Sizewell B to reassure people that Japan's Fukushima disaster could not happen here. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_9450000/newsid_9456600/9456640.stm < 1302893561 466353 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sci < 1302893561 959346 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brain scans show Alzheimer's risk: EDF Energy gave the BBC special access to Sizewell B to reassure people that Japan's Fukushima disaster could not happen here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13056862 < 1302893564 317508 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sport < 1302893565 522900 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Khan ready for long break from UK: World champion Sebastian Vettel heads McLaren's Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button in Friday practice at the Chinese Grand Prix. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/sport1/hi/rugby_league/live_scores/default.stm < 1302893568 969465 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sport < 1302893569 791155 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8D < 1302893570 21148 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :McIlroy shares lead in Malaysia: Northern Ireland's Rory McIlroy moves into the joint lead of the Malaysia Open after shooting a second-round 64. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/sport1/hi/rugby_union/live_scores/4776425.stm < 1302893571 719335 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhhhhhh < 1302893572 557992 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: Hey, you're not allowed to talk, Mr. No-I-Don't-Want-To-Be-Locked-In-A-Matrix-Of-Solidity <-- sure I am < 1302893582 83366 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1302893586 506872 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sci < 1302893586 991711 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: ISS crew phone home on space anniversary: A polar bear and cub emerge from hibernation in Alaska to find a construction site over their den. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/health-13047332 < 1302893598 24118 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me or is there a disconnect between the part before the ":" and the part after the ":" < 1302893610 784822 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...In general or just there < 1302893618 489491 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :EU's biofuel targets 'unethical': EDF Energy gave the BBC special access to Sizewell B to reassure people that Japan's Fukushima disaster could not happen here. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_9450000/newsid_9456600/9456640.stm <-- lolwut < 1302893620 477729 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1302893622 622290 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guy broke it < 1302893651 864506 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham PORNO PORNO PORNO < 1302893653 624129 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 days quiz: An Italian pro-Palestinian activist is found dead in the Gaza Strip hours after being abducted, local security officials say. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13091091 < 1302893656 336453 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302893661 18268 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302893667 126677 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1302893667 618031 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Royal Opera announces new season: London's Royal Opera House announces its programme for the new season, including an Olympic theme and a celebration of Placido Domingo's career. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13092146 < 1302893678 553838 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham PORNO PORNO PORNO < 1302893679 440970 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pollution hits EU wildlife havens: Air pollution is damaging 60% of Europe's prime wildlife sites in meadows, forests and heaths, a team of scientists warns. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13094597 < 1302893683 27091 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I <3 PicoLisp < 1302893689 187031 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEXY air pollution. < 1302893698 786515 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: SRSLY THOUGH I require more praise for my efforts < 1302893731 885581 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote elliott, it was an artful robbery! wait, murder < 1302893735 303411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :366) elliott, it was an artful robbery! wait, murder < 1302893738 219105 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: You skipped "1" btw < 1302893746 754006 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ?? < 1302893762 343482 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I predict revision in 3...2..." "...0" < 1302893767 757401 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1302893769 61566 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1302893770 898013 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was just that fast. < 1302893774 24931 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Too much noise < 1302893777 251637 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham ham-related news < 1302893777 807081 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Bubble car business takes off: Father and daughter team of Alan and Emma Evans, have developed a scale model version of the 1950s bubble car that is proving a huge hit. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13088553 < 1302893781 677491 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg that oerjan, such a wimp < 1302893783 471286 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't handle the NEWS < 1302893806 738578 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham PORN < 1302893808 553660 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stale beer's chemistry examined: The exact chemical recipe of stale beer is elucidated, and researchers suggest simple ways to prevent the fresh taste of beer degrading. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13067547 < 1302893816 54608 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEER PORN < 1302893817 868210 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1302893829 41747 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham tech < 1302893830 223385 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fujitsu offers UK fast rural net: Fujitsu is to create a superfast broadband network for rural parts of the UK, rivalling BT's service. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13060548 < 1302893834 819751 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham tech < 1302893835 312367 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spotify cuts back on free music: Popular music streaming service Spotify has put caps on the amount of free music listeners can have. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13078302 < 1302893857 125126 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/DjOI ;; This is waaaaay too short for what it does. < 1302893871 447347 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even Python would have ridiculously pointless bureaucracy for the XML handling. < 1302893906 292608 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham pol < 1302893907 343144 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Osborne and deputy clash over AV: Tory Chancellor George Osborne clashes with his Lib Dem deputy in a row over the alternative vote referendum. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-politics-13071737 < 1302893912 957987 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham tech < 1302893914 506324 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Blackberry and Motorola take on iPad: Rory Cellan-Jones tries out the new high end tablets hoping to take a bight out of Apple?s market. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13058814 < 1302893927 277174 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a bight"? < 1302893955 317269 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1302893975 633838 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make it randomly substitute Onion headlines. < 1302893979 273156 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERY NOW AND THEN < 1302894230 16129 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302894235 985392 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO GUYS < 1302894249 222835 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham! < 1302894254 435156 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Music Experience: Coachellla unveils groundbreaking new stage and light show http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13091269 < 1302894259 348765 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1302894267 697097 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDD < 1302894301 873915 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: OMG make it invoked by "what are the haps my friends". < 1302894308 577240 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD YES < 1302894315 771154 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham science < 1302894316 198496 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ducks' bill colour gives STD clue: Ducks use bill colour to determine their mates' sexual health, according to scientists. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_9454000/9454586.stm < 1302894325 138435 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1302894330 751233 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the best thing. < 1302894338 578917 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need no other source of news. < 1302894343 543245 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham politics < 1302894344 234682 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Road to Libya: The key events leading UK into military action http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-politics-12821505 < 1302894384 850151 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK so I realised two things just now, one surprising in a stupid way, the other gobsmacking. < 1302894397 537679 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first is that Dakota Fanning is in fact less than a year older than me. < 1302894414 634234 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second is that she is therefore underage and you're going to prison for what you've done. < 1302894431 330388 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302894437 55477 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302894440 539465 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the haps my friends? The haps relating to SCIENCE? < 1302894441 36101 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Trio of jaguar cubs charms Russia: A zoo in St Petersburg is celebrating the arrival of jaguar cub triplets - a very rare occurrence when the animals are bread in captivity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13077955 < 1302894445 159940 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second is that I can't have been more than 11 when I saw the posters for the Tom Cruise War of the Worlds film and thought "this'll never live up to the rock opera." < 1302894453 59024 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Your wish, it is had. < 1302894459 35582 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ON THE TOPIC OF ZOOS < 1302894472 332495 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, the topics the News Ham is aware of: < 1302894481 689606 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Exzoo-favourite-Mercedes-the-polar.6752264.jp < 1302894482 996546 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :READ THE COMMENTS < 1302894492 74974 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :World, UK, business, politics, health, edu/education, sci/science, tech/technology, ent/entertainment/arts, sport/sports. < 1302894494 273062 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOULD I STAY IN VENICE? < 1302894499 142570 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: Sprots. What is with them. < 1302894499 892397 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :London Met slashes degree courses: London Metropolitan University says it is to cut hundreds of courses so that it can survive financially when tuition fees are increased. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13098705 < 1302894502 441073 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also sports, news-ham. < 1302894503 305206 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vettel heads Hamilton in practice: World champion Sebastian Vettel heads McLaren's Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button in Friday practice at the Chinese Grand Prix. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/sport1/hi/formula_one/13090220.stm < 1302894517 171160 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: what are the haps my friends. The technology ones specifically. < 1302894518 317628 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sony considers two-week shutdown: Sony Corporation is considering shutting down some of its premises in Japan because of the ongoing power shortages. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/13075977 < 1302894519 797981 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ARTICLE WAS NOT ABOUT TRAMS, DISAPPOINTED < 1302894527 556524 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRB < 1302894530 395264 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need to ping him if you're asking what the haps be. < 1302894543 246118 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is no such thing as bear Heaven. Likewise there is puppy or kitten Heaven. The bear will decompose naturally." < 1302894544 226474 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEAR ATHEISM < 1302894704 588374 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scumbag Evening News requires registration. < 1302894719 615672 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to start blaming all the stories on the trams. < 1302894751 573665 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also dinner. < 1302894826 243068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302894878 121718 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1302894887 809923 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of the WONDERFUL NEW MAIN PAGE < 1302894924 740073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't looked at it yet < 1302894931 547962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the mere fact that the question was asked worries me < 1302894939 591865 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I redesigned our wiki's main page because it sucked. < 1302894965 443294 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half of it was memes because of me, the rest was unordered with important stuff close to things like zomg wiki preservation and site policy. < 1302894973 86478 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also no clear indication of what the site's actually about. < 1302894975 932287 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I made THE BEST MAIN PAGE EVER. < 1302894985 854741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, that right sidebar < 1302894992 491568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what made people abandon Wikia in droves < 1302894992 648536 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WAS GOING TO HAVE MEANINGFUL THINGS IN! < 1302894997 581856 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, what? < 1302895003 160805 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nothing *in* it. < 1302895006 238982 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1302895007 451850 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just design flair :P < 1302895016 314020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly, and it makes the page really hard to read < 1302895018 774487 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(When it was going to have meaningful things in it, it was at the left.) < 1302895024 559005 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No it doesn't... < 1302895033 630873 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless your browser is about 3 pixels wide I guess. < 1302895034 213702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you keep getting attracted to it rather than the actual text < 1302895041 271090 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't :P < 1302895042 781944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was full of text, you'd be able to ignore it < 1302895046 450651 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1302895053 108188 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you prefer I swap the backgrounds? :p < 1302895066 291288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just get rid of it altogether, probably < 1302895074 842505 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naw, the page would look boring without it :) < 1302895075 2309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still limit the text width if you like < 1302895088 618771 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not doing it to limit the text width, I'm doing it because it makes it look nice :-P < 1302895091 710425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bear in mind that there's a left sidebar, and it works differently < 1302895096 181161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't make it look nice, it makes it unreadable < 1302895128 607227 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You are the first person to complain about it. If you are not the only person to complain about it, I will eat my hat. I find your blanket statement of "unreadable" unrealistic :P < 1302895135 625258 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't even a sidebar. < 1302895168 535930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: agree with me quickly, will you? < 1302895177 309033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it's an accent bar, and a really annoying one at that < 1302895179 613775 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This isn't me disregarding what you are saying, this is me saying that "it makes the text absolutely unreadable, this is why people left Wikia!!!" is an overreaction and I'm not going to respond to it because it's as close to trolling as you get.) < 1302895200 740741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I find it hard to read < 1302895215 172582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a lot of concentration to even get past the line wrapping on the first line < 1302895221 803364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you start reading it, then sidebar, then you forget the start of the sentence < 1302895228 996692 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1302895264 452943 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, disguising an internal link as an external link to IRC means that people without IRC clients might not try to click on it < 1302895274 979914 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Would I be correct in thinking you'd find it less annoying if it were on the left, because you'd not run into sidebar on line-wrapping? < 1302895275 810074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that formatting would be perfectly sane if it didn't already mean something different in MediaWiki < 1302895279 755414 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I haven't disguised anything. < 1302895281 875429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: indeed < 1302895286 494548 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question mark is unlinked. < 1302895291 749508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although having a useful sidebar on the left, followed by a pointless sidebar, would be a bit silly < 1302895294 819712 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added the icon only because it was really easy to miss otherwise. < 1302895297 179933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I agree that the formatting isn't exactly the same < 1302895317 903872 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many MediaWiki sites even have IRC links, anyway :P < 1302895335 629885 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, apart from this evidently-contentious-by-one-person sidebar, it's a hell of a lot better than the previous page :P < 1302895374 191822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that the content is better < 1302895375 726832 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRC_icon.gif did make me think twice before clicking (and check the URL), because I wondered if it would launch a IRC client. < 1302895404 944448 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That IRC placing is a placeholder. < 1302895411 775728 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out the best way to introduce it into the layout so that it < 1302895419 283904 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) Doesn't appear to people before the actual intro, but < 1302895425 798308 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) Is noticeable if you don't pay attention to the meta crap at the bottom :P < 1302895471 792595 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as content goes, it feels somehow very modern and HCI-y. < 1302895542 474933 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used the time-tested technique of "disguise a list of links as conversational by rephrasing 'Hey check out this it is cool' in a different way for each bullet". < 1302895553 163314 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll be $100,000. < 1302895715 639793 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyway, I'm fully open to suggestions wrt the sidebar-that-never-got-any-useful-content, it's just that I'd like it to look a little more visually interesting than it would be if I just removed it *shrug* < 1302895734 840892 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: What's going on in... politics? < 1302895735 531371 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's who: The cabinet: A guide to who's doing what in David Cameron's Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/1/hi/uk_politics/8675705.stm < 1302895753 199279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a watermarked background might be interesting < 1302895761 734909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure if you can do that in MediaWiki < 1302895768 134368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you can't use

or < 1302895779 143125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is news-ham a bot? < 1302895781 265837 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Winding-up order for Wrexham FC: Wrexham FC are issued with a winding up order by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs over a debt of almost £200,000. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-13101239 < 1302895792 392243 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1302895793 499587 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a ham. < 1302895799 834229 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ham that is written in PicoLisp and dispenses news. < 1302895804 430359 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love you, news-ham. < 1302895805 348642 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orchestra to record Games anthems: The London Philharmonic Orchestra is to record the national anthems of all 205 countries participating in the 2012 Olympics. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13093562 < 1302895821 423672 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: MediaWiki filters out url(anything) generally :P < 1302895824 44157 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For obvious reasons. < 1302895830 886940 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could manually watermarki... < 1302895839 628993 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What if I moved the Useless Sidebar to the top or bottom? < 1302895845 214657 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the top, I could pull the Esolang title in. < 1302895851 427397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :top or bottom is fine < 1302895872 950059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the side sidebar makes the page tall enough that you can scroll it out of the way < 1302895900 2290 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK, confirm or deny: You are implying that a header having a deeper colour than the page content distracts you to the point of having to scroll it away? < 1302895921 503253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not always, but sometimes < 1302895935 47504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I hate to the point of scrolling away at the top is fake toolbars < 1302895953 208376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I meant that if something can be scrolled away, it doesn't really matter whether it annoys me or not, because if it does I can get rid of it < 1302896020 289616 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the top ain't gonna work out, too much dud whitespace wrt. the title. I'll try the bottom. < 1302896328 897678 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what do you think about the current version? < 1302896331 731164 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slightly work in progress, but < 1302896353 943121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better < 1302896370 45097 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define better. < 1302896372 975363 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good, or just better? < 1302896389 922049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good in an absolute sense, and better in a relative sense < 1302896432 387724 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to make the trilime go to the bottom of the page
< 1302896590 961868 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, what was that hack to hide the "Main Page" title? < 1302896599 770031 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget the number of pixels you have to go up < 1302896611 566592 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, ems < 1302896625 323576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember < 1302896648 374227 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pah :D < 1302896780 756916 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, making something go to the bottom is non-trivial < 1302896877 807029 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what about now? < 1302896883 299644 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are the limes distracting now :D < 1302896911 270857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better still < 1302896960 153549 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? i find the limes actually distracting now. < 1302896981 537432 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, ais523, you're obscuring the history of {{lowercase}} with this new {{lowercase title}} page circa 2007 :) < 1302896992 960023 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for a shitload of edits to User:ehird/sandbox < 1302897072 281779 :13WAAKA3N!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1302897095 511356 :13WAAKA3N!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1302897203 208969 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1302897318 365423 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, final revision for now -- oh look it fucked up < 1302897348 15769 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1302897352 742607 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked in userspace because of the "go back to X" < 1302897410 668916 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nailed it < 1302897418 968610 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope it's to ais523's satisfaction now :P < 1302897444 409187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's failing to covert two/three pixels of "Main Page" < 1302897478 371505 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ugh < 1302897479 868332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I fear your hack is font-size dependent < 1302897482 767091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one on Wikipedia was < 1302897485 300222 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just let the page title stay, then < 1302897490 8565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why they stopped using it < 1302897518 612879 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what did you say in #picolisp, i must know < 1302897547 541635 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, something about how I'm using Windows at home and sshing into my school's Linux system to play with PicoLisp < 1302897552 141123 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that was a while ago < 1302897555 540583 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, wow. < 1302897646 590966 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1302897758 669392 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, what, are they annoyed at Sgeo or what? < 1302897778 103082 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, no, just told me to set up a Linux VM < 1302897785 325500 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arm is a moron/troll. < 1302897894 263223 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the haps my friends < 1302897895 346305 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 days quiz: Duke, Dash, Digby, Pickle - what was the first Dulux dog called? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/magazine-13068655 < 1302897903 72817 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... that is not news < 1302897925 151924 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Fark? < 1302898031 540271 :atrapado!~drdre@46.6.40.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302898080 958808 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atrapado. hey, he's that old guy! < 1302898082 65560 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think. < 1302898098 174680 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i thinking of atrapado? maybe not < 1302898108 556984 :atrapado!~drdre@46.6.40.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? < 1302898117 535153 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not :D < 1302898136 391387 :atrapado!~drdre@46.6.40.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1302898245 378180 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, you want me to check in logs if he has been here before or something? < 1302898253 26295 :baboolatw_!baboolatw@114-27-50-52.dynamic.hinet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1302898260 80158 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, an influx! < 1302898267 979258 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll teach me to put the irc channel on the main page < 1302898303 353879 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :=> select tstamp from irc.logs where nick = 'atrapado' order by tstamp limit 1; < 1302898303 515049 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm assuming that's where baboolatw_ came from :) < 1302898304 7022 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2007-03-27 01:22:10 < 1302898308 648939 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, ^ < 1302898332 607716 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, so yes he or someone with the same nick has been here before < 1302898343 755108 :atrapado!~drdre@46.6.40.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that is true < 1302898419 981125 :baboolatw_!baboolatw@114-27-50-52.dynamic.hinet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1302898430 630871 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _think_ we may be scaring baboolatw_ off. < 1302898437 620075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, how? < 1302898439 257757 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if he's expecting esotericke magicke. < 1302898455 28440 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this channel is about esoteric programming languages < 1302898456 341073 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1302898510 925419 :baboolatw_!baboolatw@114-27-50-52.dynamic.hinet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....!! < 1302898542 766339 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean? < 1302898586 218991 :baboolatw_!baboolatw@114-27-50-52.dynamic.hinet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing.. < 1302898665 446480 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1302898884 560110 :baboolatw_!baboolatw@114-27-50-52.dynamic.hinet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here always speak english?.. < 1302898888 955882 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1302898936 441222 :baboolatw_!baboolatw@114-27-50-52.dynamic.hinet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh.. < 1302898999 633362 :cheater-!~cheater@g230231007.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1302899061 213458 :cheater00!~cheater@g229029089.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1302899079 164658 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, is generally English. Sometimes we find stuff in non-English, but this channel is for English typing please < 1302899125 842773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1302899150 17829 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokoko < 1302899170 423957 :baboolatw_!baboolatw@114-27-50-52.dynamic.hinet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1302899185 320705 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokoko < 1302899186 621234 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokoko < 1302899187 820792 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokoko < 1302899189 226863 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokoko < 1302899195 171631 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :baboolatw_: okokokokokoko < 1302899246 972912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1302899255 878207 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko away your worries okay < 1302899847 590777 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINALLY. *why* is it so hard to modify the url of a search provider in firefox < 1302899893 424941 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to edit /usr/lib/firefox-4.0/searchplugins/google.xml *and* search.json in your firefox profile directory to make it work. < 1302899906 746587 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume not the latter if you don't have an existing profile < 1302900028 341461 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's a bit strange that they haven't added any sort of "edit"/"specify new" feature for the "manage search engines" GUI. < 1302900048 204514 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: please enter your #matrixofsolidity < 1302900058 636577 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.230.10 NICK :elliott < 1302900061 544015 :elliott!~elliott@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Changing host < 1302900061 694748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1302900089 851676 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oklokloklokloklo < 1302900096 320322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: FAIL < 1302900098 58808 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :curl: (52) Empty reply from server <-- strange failure mode < 1302900121 893003 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, is generally English. < 1302900142 343106 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in other words, please elaborate? < 1302900156 733952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "l" < 1302900164 881027 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : Arm is a moron/troll. < 1302900178 954981 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :masturbation failed? < 1302900203 535427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :arf arf arf < 1302900226 697935 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :barfbarf < 1302900245 624118 :baboolatw_!baboolatw@114-27-50-52.dynamic.hinet.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1302900294 655581 :baboolatw_!baboolatw@114-27-50-52.dynamic.hinet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1302900394 3706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o news-ham, what is going on in the world? < 1302900394 509391 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubts over Gbagbo ally's arrest: The whereabouts of Charles Ble Goude, a key ally of deposed Ivory Coast leader Laurent Gbagbo, are unclear, after a spokesman withdraws a statement saying he had been arrested. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-africa-13093017 < 1302900400 807747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but news-ham, what of the UK? < 1302900402 117110 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newspaper review: A scoop in the Times leads the way for Friday's papers http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13090201 < 1302900416 768261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. and of artsy matters. what are the haps my friends, in that area? < 1302900417 588165 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pratchett to probe assisted death: Writer Sir Terry Pratchett is to participate in a BBC Two documentary about assisted suicide, it is announced. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13088111 < 1302900450 948180 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what in that line did it highlight on? < 1302900526 207882 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we approximate how muc... h... eep < 1302900532 540068 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ergh :/ that's more spam than I've made since 9 am this morning < 1302900538 262440 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, what? < 1302900553 394407 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much longer he has < 1302900627 678932 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "Pratchett to probe assisted death", who writes this kind of titles? Does anyone uses that sort of wording outside news? < 1302900658 290172 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specifically I'm considering the use of "probe" there a bit strange) < 1302900669 24688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can we approximate how muc... h... eep < 1302900669 875302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1302900680 752922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's planning to off himself before he dies of it, anyway < 1302900693 913544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "what are the haps my friends" triggers it because yes < 1302900694 566386 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Bubble car business takes off: Father and daughter team of Alan and Emma Evans, have developed a scale model version of the 1950s bubble car that is proving a huge hit. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13088553 < 1302900717 477219 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, but has he decided at what point he'll do it, or something? < 1302900728 97410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't think so. What was that "muc... h... eep" about < 1302900729 607817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mucheep. < 1302900760 832202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mucheep! < 1302900765 366520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :machop < 1302900776 316686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: Educate me about scis. < 1302900777 991256 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colleges 'axing courses and jobs': A survey of colleges in England for two unions suggests many have already been cutting courses and jobs. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13003726 < 1302900778 911578 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mah cheep sheep < 1302900781 405589 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Is it just me, or does newspapers use a curious variant of English in titles? < 1302900789 129128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops :D < 1302900789 856721 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if suddenly, everyone except you was immortal < 1302900791 876932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that had "edu" in :D < 1302900797 868137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: Scis! What's they 'bout < 1302900799 287135 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: New funding to clean up waterways: Voluntary groups are being invited to bid for funding to clean up England's waterways and create better habitats for wildlife http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13059545 < 1302900814 188634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously though wtf this bot is so tiny < 1302900816 616374 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be really sad < 1302900817 957779 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, "... dammit" < 1302900829 369234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is cool < 1302900832 55153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE TININESS < 1302900839 237669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(THE TININESS: http://sprunge.us/GhYf) < 1302900842 429878 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what about news paper English?! < 1302900880 439942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what? < 1302900886 877266 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, elliott, Is it just me, or does newspapers use a curious variant of English in titles? < 1302900906 594433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so? Maybe? < 1302900915 409122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT I USE A CURIOUS VARIANT OF LISP IN BOT! < 1302900928 330651 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, for example, would you ever use the wording "Pratchett to probe assisted death"? < 1302900950 524381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it gives me the hilarious mental image of Terry Prachett/assisted death slash fiction. < 1302900954 922132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try asking someone saner. < 1302900958 357267 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1302901155 185767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: . < 1302901158 804410 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do all languages share features dictated by brain?: A long-standing idea that languages share universal features dictated by human brain structure is cast into doubt. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13049700 < 1302901167 780331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the topic of discussion is now the news ham's code, btw. < 1302901278 32803 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it is rather short yes. what is de < 1302901290 595650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :function definition. which is the same thing as list definition. < 1302901303 449308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(de x ...) is like (define x '(...)) in scheme < 1302901306 859007 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not enough lisp macros in there < 1302901313 737846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYTHING in PicoLisp is a macro < 1302901315 217587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, fexpr < 1302901318 421384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means runtime macro < 1302901321 699219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PicoLisp to Scheme: (de id (x) x) -> (define id '((x) x)) < 1302901325 89905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :functions = list < 1302901326 289431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lists < 1302901336 489909 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Paraphrase) lambda is spelled q u o t e < 1302901338 234509 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I can't see you defining your own macro anywhere < 1302901355 755803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That's because you don't know PicoLisp < 1302901369 180696 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, quite, where is your macro. I'd like to know what they look like < 1302901370 645591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :randArticle is a macro. Well, it's a macro that behaves exactly like a function, but functions are just macros in PicoLisp. < 1302901386 37949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topics is also a macro that does nothing useful, because lists are macros/functions X-D < 1302901387 170775 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there some thing you do in the argument list that makes it not evaluate the argument? < 1302901397 699520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yeah, make the arg list not a list I think :P < 1302901404 88075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. '(x x) = quote, '((x) x) = id < 1302901410 29062 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302901412 759143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote as in (quote . x) = 'x style quote < 1302901415 465458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: say it < 1302901418 953042 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, another issue, the Topics map looks like it is O(n). :( < 1302901426 517926 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course it is short...) < 1302901436 332846 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: say what? < 1302901436 924078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's O(1) because the size of the list is fixed < 1302901442 967286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1302901446 9749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: are the haps < 1302901448 570457 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PicoLisp people don't believe in arrays < 1302901449 738404 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well I meant the search in it < 1302901463 150282 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the haps, my friend? < 1302901466 465816 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit. < 1302901469 561158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: O(1), because it's never >a fixed N. < 1302901471 210222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Friends. < 1302901472 583360 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the haps my friends> < 1302901474 422954 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burkina Faso government dismissed: Burkina Faso's president dissolves his government after members of his presidential guard went on an overnight rampage in the capital Ouagadougou. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-africa-13101197 < 1302901514 6546 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a binary tree would be more elegant :( < 1302901521 495878 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait make it recognise "what are the haps my friends" < 1302901542 343379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'll do it, but note that it will end up recognising "haps my friends what are the" < 1302901544 634565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a: FEATURE < 1302901566 306203 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, Picolisp has easy support for binary trees somehow, I don't remember details though < 1302901567 686674 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302901572 28763 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haps, my friends. What are they? < 1302901608 492295 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302901609 838441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haps my friends science what are the < 1302901611 706102 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EU's biofuel targets 'unethical': EU biofuels targets are unethical and should be lifted temporarily, according to a report. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13056862 < 1302901618 289076 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham, ham-radio < 1302901623 341608 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tories 'out of the comfort zone': The Conservatives say they have a programme that would take them "out of their comfort zone" as they publish their Welsh assembly manifesto. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-politics-13083291 < 1302901630 799225 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, shouldn't it give an error in case of an unknown topic? < 1302901639 904872 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are like leprechauns but they don't try so hard to trick you with their wish-granting < 1302901640 66039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it know what word is meant to be the topic. < 1302901642 120184 :baboolatw_!baboolatw@114-27-50-52.dynamic.hinet.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1302901644 217811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This line is scientific and it mentions news-ham. < 1302901645 9975 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A dragonfly's guide: Dragonflies are thriving in some unexpected places http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_9455000/9455764.stm < 1302901647 12571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It therefore gets scientific news. < 1302901654 289547 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are also harder to catch, because leprechauns enjoy being caught sometimes < 1302901675 938834 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, that would be easy if you didn't try to make it go anywhere < 1302901684 365746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What? < 1302901721 638803 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I mean, if you only allowed ^news-ham[:,.]? * < 1302901724 671344 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actor Trevor Bannister dies at 76: Are You Being Served? star Trevor Bannister has died at the age of 76, his brother confirms to the BBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13098312 < 1302901724 879141 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be easy < 1302901726 925870 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i mention computers and news-ham in the same message? < 1302901727 360285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be fascist. < 1302901727 925335 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cry wolf: Why are re-worked fairy-tales like Red Riding Hood now in vogue? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-12992931 < 1302901732 802353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's "technology" < 1302901733 786866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "tech" < 1302901734 715029 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm < 1302901745 172816 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's way too restrictive < 1302901751 560803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: OH NOES < 1302901766 557610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELLIOTT < 1302901775 334755 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, idea, use wordnet to figure out the meaning of a word! < 1302901780 321404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are them mongrels that demand that the mishaps my friends cause must be punished? < 1302901781 701608 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i have a copy of vagrant? :P < 1302901787 130189 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stalled revolts: Is the Arab Spring running out of steam? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13091091 < 1302901790 550307 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wish Picolisp had namespaces < 1302901805 886423 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I could probably implement such a thing myself < 1302901808 13251 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still < 1302901824 301412 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish < 1302901837 809766 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sgeo would pick a language and do something useful in it! < 1302901850 841614 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :by useful < 1302901856 678955 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick every language, do everything useful < 1302901858 477794 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i of course mean nontrivial < 1302901875 607149 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because #esoteric doesn't deal in traditional usefulness < 1302901877 952783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Namespaces are against the PicoLisp philosophy near as I can tell. < 1302901884 333852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would harsh the vibes up, bro. < 1302901895 939931 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the technology haps my friends. < 1302901896 651953 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smart investment: Does your business need its own mobile app? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-13000883 < 1302901899 957991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't write my randArticle with namespaces. Well, you can, but it'd suck. < 1302901904 824446 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe it does. < 1302901918 185621 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hmm. The "can change everything" philosophy? < 1302901923 839244 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some other part? < 1302901933 768320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No, the "bro anything goes and everything is short" philosophy. < 1302901933 929337 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is news-ham just a rss filter bot? < 1302901935 657459 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, USE WORDNET! < 1302901941 205051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AKA the sleep-deprived pot smoker's philosophy. < 1302901942 826806 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Italian activist murdered in Gaza: An Italian pro-Palestinian activist is found dead in the Gaza Strip hours after being abducted, local security officials say. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13088630 < 1302901943 480253 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An awful lot of BBC headlines are rhetorical questions, now that I look at them. < 1302901947 840007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Only if you ping it. And it's BBC! < 1302901953 901857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You must not forget BBC 'News' < 1302901956 496334 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also it was MY IDEA < 1302901966 139011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://po-ru.com/bbc-news/ < 1302901971 775567 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like the 'scare' 'quotes'. < 1302901982 938806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Thus http://po-ru.com/bbc-news/ < 1302901988 274316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the 'news' that's fit to 'quote' < 1302901997 75877 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, wrote that before clicking the link. < 1302902009 636739 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, rhetorical questions and scare quotes. < 1302902017 607471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: Pokey < 1302902019 772791 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vettel heads Hamilton in practice: World champion Sebastian Vettel heads McLaren's Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button in Friday practice at the Chinese Grand Prix. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/sport1/hi/formula_one/13090220.stm < 1302902021 332641 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAVE I MENTIONED THAT THIS WAS MY IDEA < 1302902042 948402 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1302902044 671578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham must be so proud. < 1302902048 703454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't make me think any better of you < 1302902057 58187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's not our fault you keep pinging it. < 1302902064 990392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, it is now official channel policy that the News Ham predates newsham coming here. < 1302902082 19785 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I find weather forecast program usable on gopher? < 1302902095 194995 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i have no issues with the bot. i just don't think having an idea is all that great a thing. implementing an idea is much cooler. < 1302902103 732407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yeah. I am cool. You know what is even the most coolerest? < 1302902107 444654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMPLEMENTING IT IN PICOLISP < 1302902126 656823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://sprunge.us/fCHG < 1302902134 353530 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, use THIS to figure out that computer -> technology: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?o2=&o0=1&o7=&o5=&o1=1&o6=&o4=1&o3=&r=1&s=computer&i=92&h=11130021301300221302001301300013022222002000000013002100000000000000101000000000000000000000101000#c < 1302902138 591106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: GO FETCH AN RSS FEED FROM HTTP AND PARSE OUT THE ARTICLES FROM IT SHORTER THAN RANDARTICLE DOES WITHOUT ANY RSS LIBS < 1302902139 934451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DARE YOU < 1302902141 699879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN YOUR FAVOURITE LANGUAGE < 1302902147 244762 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gathered as much from your comment about "randArticle" < 1302902158 601200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS < 1302902168 265332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Patches welcome < 1302902173 939098 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, dammit :P < 1302902204 450702 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I seem to unable to find the tree structure I'm looking for in there < 1302902215 488889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In where < 1302902228 65386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13047570 ;; BBC NEWS < 1302902232 78643 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee, this DNS server doesn't give any records for query for type ANY, but gives a record for query for type AAAA. :-/ < 1302902233 934611 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, in the link I gave < 1302902326 381651 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you could look at the hypernyms, and mark a handful of them as "technology", such as "machine" < 1302902340 872108 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I WOULD IMPLEMENT THINGS IF ELLIOTT DIDN'T ALWAYS IMPLEMENT THEM FIRSt < 1302902347 479529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ALSO IF YOU COULD PROGRAM < 1302902356 377872 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL I HAVE LEARNT FROM LIFE SO FAR IS TO BE LAZY < 1302902362 786795 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because Phantom_Hoover is stupid < 1302902391 339295 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: SO'S YOUR MOTHER < 1302902432 551545 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh or you could look at hypernyms of the domain category. That looks even more interesting! < 1302902442 231241 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right? < 1302902454 316499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: patches < 1302902469 416427 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes but if I make them I first need to discuss the idea with you < 1302902472 123875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: Haha, you're new, and fraudulent. One could even say you are a ... new sham! < 1302902472 943789 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :David Jason returning to comedy: Sir David Jason is making his comedy comeback in a new BBC One sitcom about a former soldier mistakenly put in charge of royal security. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13065697 < 1302902475 276697 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302902475 471512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHHA < 1302902480 124516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You might wanna learn PicoLisp first :P < 1302902488 29744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It takes about five minutes to learn) < 1302902489 1785 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, meh, I'll wing it ;) < 1302902494 594284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Winging it IS learning it :P < 1302902518 145882 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, quite. < 1302902537 84410 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway the theory is more interesting than the practical application < 1302902564 65586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the former is what would have us with Phantom_Hoover sitting on a terrible pun, not implementing it. < 1302902610 707642 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OI I CAN ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THINGS < 1302902611 360778 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if people are willing to accept a news bot in here, surely they are willing to accept a radiobot! < 1302902622 748133 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm, I think I'm turning into him... Scary. I have been doing a lot more theory than implementation recently < 1302902635 657960 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, apart from stuff I need to implement for university purposes < 1302902641 490424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eagerly awaiting Vorpal with Ph.D. and no desire to program. < 1302902668 604672 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh of course, I do the quick one liner and such to automate tasks, but that is about it recently < 1302902680 504111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon you will run out of tasks to automate < 1302902717 886820 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm. Maybe I could automate programming for me. I'd probably get billions if I would manage that, which is an extra bonus. < 1302902729 478447 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1302902737 227374 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who solve AI-hard problems make millions < 1302902749 757152 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it's corporations that solve them, not people, but same difference < 1302902751 398526 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, has anyone actually done that? < 1302902755 681524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1302902768 303555 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, they would make millions if they did < 1302902795 427678 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we're not far off from reasonably good brain machine interfaces < 1302902808 754221 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would at least speed up the programming process i suspect < 1302902810 504243 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, didn't oklopol try out one and find it was pretty shitty? < 1302902825 464471 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they are currently shitty < 1302902834 203103 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: my uncle works on those. < 1302902835 899499 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think there will be reasonably good ones in our lifetimes < 1302902841 429037 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one he has is hilariously terrible. < 1302902855 649919 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I eagerly await the day when I can input some pseudo code, or even an informal description, and get a fully working 3D game out < 1302902862 836709 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: all the good ones involve neurosurgery to implant the necessary hardware < 1302902874 377706 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah. < 1302902899 853583 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I presume "good" is relative here... How bad are the good ones? < 1302902913 527467 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i don't. what would i do for money when everyone just makes their own shit like that? < 1302902936 571685 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, get tenure? < 1302902955 164219 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: say something funny, will ya? < 1302902955 811577 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well, they have monkeys controlling robotic arms and legs quite precisely. that's a start. < 1302902958 628637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yuk < 1302902965 782672 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok < 1302902975 356988 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as funny as I expected, but it might do < 1302902978 977753 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, that leaves out the *artificial* intelligence though < 1302902982 604053 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIPE themselves say they have 4.04 blocks available. < 1302902997 621151 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, good for prosthesis(spelling?) I guess < 1302903015 698412 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, hm. Is that 4.04 /8? < 1302903020 169473 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1302903027 263530 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah. it'll be quite a while before we can build a fully-functional human in any way other than the fuck-and-wait-40-weeks method < 1302903034 481697 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, how did they get that much? I'd expected 2-3 after the endgame < 1302903048 850520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so does your thue compiler work < 1302903057 494609 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guitar solo(s) in A Kind of Magic are pretty neat, makes me yearn for a SID version of this song that picks out the good parts < 1302903058 325040 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, there is the artificial insemination thingy < 1302903061 400945 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i think we'll have ALS patients and quadriplegics walking again within 50 years < 1302903074 159242 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Family are continuing to obnoxiously steal this computer off me. < 1302903076 516581 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yep, it was just the first character of the program getting cut off < 1302903081 305539 :Phantom_Hoover!4f29f1e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.41.241.233 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1302903087 728788 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, password protect it? < 1302903094 475775 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :really stupid mistake thingy < 1302903111 661455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Persuing such things directly is probably a less effective way of reaching their desired goal than going via an AI < 1302903118 833018 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another source claims 3.69 (and thats including the final /8, that 4.04 figure didn't contain it). < 1302903120 148378 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, how much faster than the python implementation is it now? < 1302903130 411131 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, over a block of difference. < 1302903130 561346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :had [^q](.*) instead of ([^q].*) in one place < 1302903145 820514 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: same speed, pretty much < 1302903150 941899 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: people are simultaneously pursuing AI. AI is the fast route to long term goals, but this is achievable in the short run < 1302903166 745590 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :both about 7m20s < 1302903181 844501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Nobody is pursuing effective AI right now. < 1302903183 633815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not directly. < 1302903195 924194 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, what does RIPEs own data say? < 1302903197 704257 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "directly" < 1302903199 735287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you reply "Cyc", I will laugh uncontrollably. This will not be a voluntary action. < 1302903209 840788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i.e. actually programming or designing a feasible AGI. < 1302903229 469429 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh what < 1302903237 229811 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIPE's own graph says 4.04 (not including final /8). I try to locate extended delegated file. < 1302903256 481023 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think all the research into learning theory is for? people are designing algorithms to eventually be able to do just that < 1302903258 48119 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what is wrong with Cyc as such? Sure it isn't that likely to lead to an AI, but the database might be useful to an AI, should one ever be developed. < 1302903283 747272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (1) Cyc's approach is unworkable. (2) The database would be useless because any feasible AI would be able to understand the source material directly. < 1302903294 811684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, Cyc's database is in large part irrelevant bullshit like US presidents. < 1302903295 987060 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm true < 1302903303 609837 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1302903308 888279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't think you understand the A part of AGI. < 1302903311 737573 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Cyc sucks. The people who built Watson looked at it and said "HAHAHAHAHA we'll just use books and wikipedia and stuff kthx" < 1302903320 65887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watson is not even anything close to an AGI. < 1302903329 609300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody is currently working on building a Friendly seed AGI. That is a fact. < 1302903331 248793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1302903333 99528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, nobody is publicly doing it. < 1302903339 647661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore nobody is working on a feasible AGI. < 1302903341 294228 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :watson is not even close to an AGI and even they thought cyc was useless < 1302903384 970003 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what about evil AGI? < 1302903400 564831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't consider an AI that paperclips the universe to be very feasible. < 1302903404 936760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much opportunity to reap rewards. < 1302903424 373778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh hi lil fella, what's great" "PAPERCLIPS!" "Hahaha isn't that ni*disintegrates*" < 1302903424 523855 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait, is this a Clippy reference? < 1302903432 342182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, it's a paperclipping reference. < 1302903444 458717 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm completely lost now < 1302903444 785774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer < 1302903454 250928 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you think the hutter prize will eventually lead to better english language modeling? < 1302903479 107031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't have nearly the expertise nor psychic abilities to answer that question. < 1302903483 45655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know if compression is related to understanding. < 1302903487 642534 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh right. Why did they select paperclips for the concept, rather than, say, pens or whatever < 1302903498 770413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't ask me < 1302903526 248782 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably cuz of the guy who traded a paperclip for a house. they decided paperclips must be very valuable :P < 1302903534 309899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it predates that. < 1302903557 576507 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, wait what, what have I missed here? < 1302903580 633115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: someone got famous for trading paperclip->...->house < 1302903591 191554 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1302903598 899277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because the things swapped were of almost but not quite identical value < 1302903602 264985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hard to estimate or subjective value < 1302903609 775597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat long enough... < 1302903623 377399 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's mainly because people wanted to get famous for having been a part of the trading process < 1302903634 789293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that, yes < 1302903642 558048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which didn't really work since there's so fucking many trades involved < 1302903652 854305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were only like 15 trades < 1302903656 425214 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calculating from RIPE delegated-extended doing the same corrections as is done for that 4.04 figure gives 4.03 blocks. < 1302903662 114745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: uh. no. < 1302903666 581608 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone involved came to the housewarming party < 1302903680 793130 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diffrent days, that might very well explain the diffrence. < 1302903684 168532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i guess you're right < 1302903687 593779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr it being more < 1302903707 677154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :On November 16, 2005, he made a second (and successful) attempt (after having the generator confiscated by the New York City Fire Department) in Maspeth, Queens, to trade the generator for an "instant party": an empty keg, an IOU for filling the keg with the beer of the holder's choice, and a neon Budweiser sign. < 1302903708 168037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kyle MacDonald's house < 1302903708 318224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :On December 8, 2005, he traded the "instant party" to Quebec comedian and radio personality Michel Barrette for a Ski-doo snowmobile. < 1302903709 890868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ bullshit trade < 1302903731 486909 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1302903736 891186 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not the worst one < 1302903738 979584 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, confiscated, why? < 1302903743 211373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :On or about July 5, 2006, he traded the movie role for a two-story farmhouse in Kipling, Saskatchewan < 1302903744 738179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bullshit < 1302903755 119165 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he traded an afternoon with alice cooper for a snowglobe < 1302903756 939937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Fire hazard? < 1302903761 908232 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1302903764 345486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hahaha, you're right < 1302903766 464281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's brilliant < 1302903769 771087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair < 1302903772 140187 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then traded the snowglobe to a hollywood director for a part in a major motion picture < 1302903773 405984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a KISS motorised snow globe < 1302903783 906677 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what the heck is that < 1302903788 22822 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :motorised snow globe? < 1302903796 15794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES. < 1302903805 934134 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, where does the motor fit in < 1302903810 145579 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the base < 1302903820 936967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the snow < 1302903821 200896 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, okay, so it stirs the thing or what? < 1302903843 156220 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, how do they fit the turntable motor in the bottom of a microwave? there's so little space down there! < 1302903856 249202 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen motors before man < 1302903861 398096 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they fill the entire hoods of cars < 1302903889 511104 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I meant more like "how does it fit into the *concept* of a snow globe" < 1302903899 383776 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, as in, what does it do for it < 1302903900 136136 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ask Cyc < 1302903904 524821 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, har < 1302903991 520897 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why is Picolisp's OO in C? < 1302903996 995357 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try making a method < 1302904008 997146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed < 1302904009 953462 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then show the symbol for the method < 1302904010 617593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1302904012 56799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really care < 1302904016 221880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo is lame < 1302904129 289834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdfghjjjq < 1302904189 107178 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I would say that there *are* problems for which OO is an efficient way to model the domain. But OO is *very* over-used. < 1302904216 336428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: everything i say is 100% objectively true always in the universe of the exceptionally tired, irritable shithead < 1302904218 628445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. me right now < 1302904249 337839 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, only your own personal pocket universe I presume. < 1302904252 130084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: before you dismiss that context as irrelevant, it seems to be unusually productive for me, as I've produced both the new main page, and news-ham < 1302904252 820469 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weapons found in dissident search: Guns and ammunition, including two pistols, are found in Lurgan by police investigating dissident republican activity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-northern-ireland-13100494 < 1302904271 226376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wager that others could see similar productivity increases, were they willing to suffer in all other aspects. < 1302904272 967352 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1302904320 143363 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you think strong AI is possible? And what about feasible? < 1302904327 542499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Define feasible. < 1302904350 378717 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, possible to be done by humans within the next hundred years or so. < 1302904363 815431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is quite obviously possible, in that one can simulate even qubits on a classical computer, so even if the brain relies on quantum effects...) < 1302904378 92026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I of course do not believe in any supernatural cause of intelligence, so that's enough.) < 1302904385 460515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Next hundred years? Maybe. < 1302904385 722744 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, for example, it is theoretically possible to simply model an entire human brain. That is not yet feasible. < 1302904410 400972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be lucky, that's for sure. < 1302904419 771031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You pretty much only get one shot at getting AGI right, after all. < 1302904428 198722 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh? < 1302904437 271481 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :no refinement and so on? < 1302904443 651817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you're aware of un-Friendly AI, FOOM, etc. < 1302904456 54147 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right. Maybe you could *evolve* an AI? < 1302904457 754603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Uhh, if you don't build a self-improving AI, it's pretty useless :P < 1302904462 132260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define evolve. < 1302904463 915871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're evolved AIs. < 1302904471 695994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll note that we're not really getting any more intelligent. < 1302904475 969538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it took a while. < 1302904478 140389 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, true. < 1302904509 415708 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Could you simulate it faster than the human evolution inside a computer? < 1302904513 398996 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not today < 1302904516 68849 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at some point < 1302904519 183702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nightmare fuel: The reason we haven't heard from alien civilisations is because they all ended up creating un-Friendly AIs that are now paperclipping the universe limited only by the speed of light.) < 1302904535 367454 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway you don't expect to see a strong AI during your own life-time I gather? < 1302904550 82754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm not sure that question makes sense. Anyway, throwing random numbers at a problem isn't necessarily easier than throwing brains at it. < 1302904557 486039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just less of a pain for us :) < 1302904563 70043 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1302904596 329214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Depends how you define my own life-time, if things don't look good on the seed AI front I'll certainly give serious thought to signing up for cryonics < 1302904626 690733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the next 70 years or so, dunno, like I said it would be incredibly lucky. < 1302904631 938520 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, we don't yet know that cyronics will actually work. < 1302904649 149576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, we don't, but cryopreservation of organs on the small scale does. < 1302904658 76510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Post-"thawing") < 1302904663 449780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For limited periods of time) < 1302904692 331442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Add the 70 years or so they have to improve the already pretty-good preservation process and I think there's a damn good chance I'd be _preserved_ perfectly enough, the question isn't whether you're preserved but whether you're revivable. < 1302904712 173311 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think I seen a theory somewhere, that perhaps memories are electrical signals kept in constant circulation in the brain. If so, cyrogenics would run into problems. < 1302904718 43292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the grand scale of things it has enough evidence and promise, the reward is high enough, and the cost is cheap enough for it to seem to pay off to me. < 1302904733 617509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Is there any evidence for that theory? < 1302904738 674045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR reading a rebuttal of it. < 1302904762 377035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, there are all sorts of reasons cryonics might not work, but it all really boils down to reward times probability of it working. < 1302904764 770224 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think there was some indications that it might be true, but no hard evidence as far as I remember. I don't even remember where I read about it. < 1302904769 68301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, and factoring in the cost there :P < 1302904823 295028 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway, how *does* the human brain store memories. Chemically? Electrically? Some completely different way? < 1302904849 493554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno, ask a neuroscientist. I'm almost certain you'll get "dunno" back. < 1302904856 989011 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah probably < 1302904865 352999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do seem to recall reading a rather convincing rebuttal of the "constant circulation of signals" idea. < 1302904870 883450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not certain though. < 1302904916 649638 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is *anybody* certain about anything but the simplest parts of the brain? < 1302904926 838123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're probably sentient! < 1302904944 604619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I mean, people save up shitloads of money for their funeral and crap like that, cryonics is obviously a better investment if you're going to spend money on after-clinical-death things. < 1302904969 220902 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1302904972 643335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't anticipate dying any time soon, anyway :P < 1302904990 492832 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. Maybe we discover immortality before we die < 1302905032 849176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt "we" will "discover" "immortality" :P < 1302905063 832460 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, engineer it perhaps. And I meant "we" as in Homo Sapiens Sapiens < 1302905079 221713 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is, by the way, an utterly silly name) < 1302905083 462878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define immortality, if I'm going to live for 80 million years does that count as immortal? < 1302905108 899641 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'd say "until heat death of universe, excluding accidents, and then fuck you" < 1302905112 540881 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no dying of old age < 1302905126 141303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heat death of the universe is a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time away. < 1302905131 995859 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yep. < 1302905140 741480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All we need right now is a few thousand year extension to start with :P < 1302905156 956603 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it's next year, according to some calendars < 1302905171 83690 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that's do too. I wouldn't call that immortality though. < 1302905177 601497 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd* < 1302905182 59286 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn s being next to d < 1302905184 407665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'd say aiming for immortality is a pointless goal compared to that < 1302905202 413605 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, I'll remind you of that on your 2000th bday :P < 1302905205 479539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd only consider immortality to be true immortality if it involved the heat death of the universe being prevented, anyway :P < 1302905234 156537 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, who knows, our theories *could* be wrong. That happened before. Many times. < 1302905250 449974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if a heat death is on its way I don't think that implies it's absolutely inevitable *shrug* < 1302905286 580766 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly. If we could only harvest that quantum vacuum thingy < 1302905301 802868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: In the long long run (and of course this is just in the realm of pointless sci-fi wankery but INEVITABLE LOL) I'd expect perceived-seconds to take many quadrillions of years. < 1302905305 752032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Computation speed. < 1302905312 888365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say there's an absolute limit to it. < 1302905329 285429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say we want to compute SHITLOADS of things. I think that's pretty likely. e.g. virtual reality simulation. < 1302905332 611038 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, perceived-seconds? < 1302905337 848919 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink and face quadrillions of years having passed before your eyes during which you have done nothing < 1302905343 196639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: As in, what we perceive as a second will actually take quadrillions of years. < 1302905345 169789 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds awesome < 1302905361 200267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The obvious solution to a maximum speed of calculation is LAWL MIND UPLOADING. < 1302905361 989510 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you mean, we being in a universe simulator? < 1302905365 787755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing says you have to try and maintain real-time parity. < 1302905395 260245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone asks the AI to calculate some ridiculously computationally-expensive equation, so what? A second will take a few quadrijillibillion times longer than usual. < 1302905412 713607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you've got the whole dying universe thing under control, that won't be a problem. < 1302905414 301388 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, then we might run into the heat death mentioned < 1302905417 4756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you've got the whole dying universe thing under control, that won't be a problem. < 1302905425 411247 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1302905431 472315 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it arrived same second < 1302905597 497181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway clearly we just need to wait for the Culture to decide we're worth engulfing. < 1302905598 944035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem solved. < 1302905602 158472 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, actually... with a massively distributed system it might not be so bad. Ever programmed an FPGA? With that you can do a lot of things side by side, that is just unfeasible on a traditional CPU architecture. No I'm not suggesting we will upload ourselves to an FPGA. I'm just using it as an example of the possibilities of massively parallel systems. < 1302905619 722252 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I should read Culture some time. Maybe. < 1302905624 692059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah, but the point is that if you have a universe that's going to be around forever, and mind simulation, speed limits don't exist. < 1302905635 200986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just pause mind emulation for however long you want while you compute. < 1302905651 671398 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1302905666 861658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the AI could easily run at N gigateramegabajilliquadriphonicilopsitopsi-operations per second for arbitrary N. < 1302905676 332889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, the simulated universe, that is. < 1302905740 992777 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, speaking of which, that recent stuff about carbon transistors looked quite interesting. Well maybe a year old now. < 1302905830 222108 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, a little more than a year: "In February 2010, researchers at IBM reported that they have been able to create graphene transistors with an on and off rate of 100 gigahertz, far exceeding the rates of previous attempts, and exceeding the speed of silicon." < 1302905951 815730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: you are my favourite ham. < 1302905954 335846 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Benefit cheat danced to karaoke: A benefits cheat is given a suspected jail term for falsely claiming benefits while working as a karaoke host. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-13097919 < 1302905989 426521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pets news-ham
< 1302905990 940532 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tears for Margate: Emotional Tracey Emin salutes the Kent resort's new gallery http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13100390 < 1302906022 666520 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG, PortMidi SUCKS. < 1302906052 470277 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a quick input-only MIDI dumper. No blocking read(), no select(), only poll and read. < 1302906071 399374 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham, world < 1302906074 731753 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uganda politician wounded by army: Ugandan opposition leader Kizza Besigye is injured as soldiers open fire to disperse protesters in the capital, Kampala. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-africa-13079335 < 1302906135 397081 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, feature request, some way to get http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/europe/ < 1302906154 199889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want a latin america feed while i'm at it? < 1302906155 391206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1302906160 719447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll do asia and europe < 1302906175 758585 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, one for each on the map halfway down http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/ ? < 1302906189 237669 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's like 7 ones < 1302906198 616947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too lazy for today :) < 1302906211 419738 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, isn't it just adding something to the map? < 1302906217 575707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1302906218 850050 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302906223 946573 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302906225 859842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: what are the asia-related haps < 1302906230 488107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1302906232 688102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: what are the asia < 1302906233 165859 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :China: Key facts, figures and dates http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/country_profiles/1287798.stm < 1302906235 936965 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham, europe my friend! < 1302906236 467595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: what are the europe < 1302906237 614039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you forgot the hyphen < 1302906238 42167 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explore the Space Station: Clickable guide to the International Space Station http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-12984241 < 1302906239 351290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: what are the eu < 1302906240 842953 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irish pass first economic review: The Republic of Ireland's progress on cutting its deficit has been approved by international authorities, a condition of its 85bn-euro bail-out. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-13091873 < 1302906244 140575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: what are the eu < 1302906244 568751 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greenland: Key facts, figures and dates http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/1/hi/world/europe/country_profiles/1023393.stm < 1302906246 212141 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1302906250 210534 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham, europe my friend! < 1302906253 903256 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greece: Key facts, figures and dates http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/1/hi/world/europe/country_profiles/1009249.stm < 1302906255 398092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: what is the elliott? < 1302906256 49362 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japan orders nuclear compensation: Japan orders the operator of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant to pay provisional compensation to about 48,000 affected families. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-asia-pacific-13090304 < 1302906256 199564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1302906259 656035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much news is it < 1302906260 737968 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: What's going on in appropriately-capitalized Asia? < 1302906262 310178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :KEY FACTS FIGURES AND DATES < 1302906262 659847 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macau: An overview of Macau, including key facts, political leaders and notes on the media http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/country_profiles/4080105.stm < 1302906266 958427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah um < 1302906268 767602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these sources suck < 1302906269 457372 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm, yeah < 1302906283 170495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW EVER < 1302906292 802929 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, always < 1302906293 937710 :atrapado!~drdre@46.6.40.156 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1302906308 190890 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302906312 545929 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302906317 874109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: WHAT ARE THE INCREDIBLY EXCITING THINGS HAPPENING IN ... SCOTLAND ??? < 1302906319 917806 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gers face fresh sectarian charge: Rangers fear being forced to play behind closed doors after Uefa investigates a second charge of sectarian singing by fans. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/sport1/hi/football/13088419.stm < 1302906321 701377 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what did you change? < 1302906327 318660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i removed those shitty ones and added: SCOTLAND < 1302906334 798328 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, in upper case? < 1302906338 595928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :any case! < 1302906345 382342 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, just in case you mean? < 1302906349 681859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :har har < 1302906352 593775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: btw this can technically do any RSS 2.0 feed < 1302906361 47963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll only add ones with title=headline, description=blurb < 1302906366 778876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm.. are you asking for suggestions? < 1302906368 687998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and link=article < 1302906372 348332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: for europe stuff, sure < 1302906376 518592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1302906381 67454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, i'll even add sweden if you have an english source < 1302906388 344900 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I can't find the RSS icon in firefox 4... weird < 1302906437 508016 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, for Sweden, what about the English Swedish Radio news? http://api.sr.se/api/rssfeed/rssfeed.aspx?rssfeed=2054 < 1302906452 448450 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it fits your criteria above < 1302906472 264780 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- why CDATA? < 1302906482 89255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1302906484 312214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit too long description < 1302906488 879648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't know if the parser does cdata :D < 1302906499 346205 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why on earth does it do CDATA < 1302906503 63155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's close though < 1302906504 270576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: god knows < 1302906505 289294 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, the blurb is rather long < 1302906506 681304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rss is fucked < 1302906536 163761 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, for a start it is xml yes < 1302906585 332953 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also I have one on the melodies from Cosmos stuck in my head. I keep humming it all the time. And it is not even a easily hummable one, so the result is rather poor. < 1302906594 664886 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1302906633 750292 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH ... I refuse to believe that PortMidi is actually so terrible as to be endianness-sensitive. < 1302906639 498777 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just ... I won't. < 1302906645 30448 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, XD < 1302906651 6291 :atrapado!~drdre@46.6.10.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302906673 455131 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-15-248.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1302906681 904524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what is your opinion of potential for OpenCog? < 1302906692 964325 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if you want the news in German or Sami or "Sisu" (whatever that is) I can do that too < 1302906711 460692 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I managed to make Stack Overflow work on gopher, now. < 1302906714 210983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well, ben goertzel is infinitely more competent than most (advisor to SIAI) < 1302906731 968840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR some worryingly cavalier statements from him about Friendliness, but... a better chance than most. < 1302906733 785816 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, WHEW, it's not as bad as I thought X_X < 1302906735 482007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So still about 0 modulo rounding errors. < 1302906738 112250 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just poorly documented. < 1302906747 525942 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1302906755 983035 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh Sisu seems to be Finnish for some completely unclear reason < 1302906786 899820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, just found: the best feed < 1302906803 118876 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302906851 905491 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, one thing you could do I think is simply strip the CDATA bit at the start and the end. That might work. Or it might break horribly. < 1302906858 471697 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think I managed to make Stack Overflow work on gopher, now. <-- what? < 1302906878 193151 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I think I managed to make Stack Overflow work on gopher, now. < 1302906879 416016 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :367) I think I managed to make Stack Overflow work on gopher, now. < 1302906889 909988 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes I think I worked it? < 1302906904 253978 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher://zzo38computer.cjb.net:70/1column80*a < 1302906907 708580 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what do you mean. Some sort of gropher->http proxy? < 1302906928 7722 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, it seems firefox 4 can't open that < 1302906929 224802 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so meh < 1302906965 158356 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can connect using netcat and use the selector string "column80*a" (without quotation marks) < 1302906995 462858 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, using lynx < 1302906996 504786 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302906999 721341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: You smell kinda weird. Like... onions. < 1302907008 43770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?xml-stylesheet -- Unbalanced XML < 1302907008 193818 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my < 1302907008 193907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1302907010 580173 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham, Sweden < 1302907011 678551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::areyoukiddingme: < 1302907022 716810 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1302907027 515428 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302907028 363489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham onion < 1302907029 476657 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kobe Mad: 266878 http://feeds.theonion.com/~r/theonion/daily/~3/OZ4jWQQeNIM/ < 1302907029 718541 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not done Sweden yet? < 1302907032 246846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1302907032 902587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham onion < 1302907034 498943 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last Pick Of WNBA Draft Earns Title Of Saddest Woman In America: 266878 http://feeds.theonion.com/~r/theonion/daily/~3/9Xdm_BVQ7Gw/ < 1302907054 941547 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that looks wrong < 1302907074 679265 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the number < 1302907090 959038 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302907095 517946 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302907096 662991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham onion < 1302907097 484385 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obama Orders Guantánamo Prisoners Transferred To Next President: http://feeds.theonion.com/~r/theonion/daily/~3/EeNrTh9rkGE/ < 1302907106 379861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham onion < 1302907107 962086 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :American Voices: Sleeping Air Traffic Controllers Prompts FAA Action: http://feeds.theonion.com/~r/theonion/daily/~3/W_MzYEmRU7I/ < 1302907128 613252 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302907132 473103 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302907134 633290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham onion < 1302907135 575833 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Author Promoting Book Gives It Her All Whether It's Just 3 People Or A Crowd Of 9 People: http://feeds.theonion.com/~r/theonion/daily/~3/ZWc3ZGMm8H8/ < 1302907140 914754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1302907143 735524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1302907147 635474 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302907166 561452 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302907167 486453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham onion < 1302907168 296480 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magazine: Our Elderly Wildlife Issuehttp://feeds.theonion.com/~r/theonion/daily/~3/u8A4tk_8uY0/ < 1302907175 179747 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302907177 540769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1302907179 351851 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302907181 780907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can't use onion blurbs, too long, so just headlines) < 1302907188 505429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this also means i could do that swedish thing but not right now) < 1302907190 402096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham onion < 1302907191 987932 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Third-Party Candidate Forms Exploratory Committee To See Who Can Cover Shifts For Him In Coming Months http://feeds.theonion.com/~r/theonion/daily/~3/GcNN-SSV64E/ < 1302907208 239511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is our favourite ham. < 1302907227 987543 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham, Sweden < 1302907228 890709 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Music Experience: Coachellla unveils groundbreaking new stage and light showhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13091269 < 1302907233 283030 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1302907238 961172 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, did the cdata not work out? < 1302907246 337997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i haven't even tried < 1302907248 742175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh at that link fail < 1302907256 788646 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, insert a space there < 1302907257 48558 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302907259 924709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1302907260 616501 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302907264 219668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :still only 76 lines! < 1302907268 314615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of that is the topics :) < 1302907271 87308 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, post the source? < 1302907273 51139 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUADRUPLEARGH < 1302907277 642243 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PortSMF is C++ >_< < 1302907283 682867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you mean the latest? ok < 1302907285 100624 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need another MIDI parsing library then X_X < 1302907293 271352 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, SMF? < 1302907297 77351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://sprunge.us/ADiC < 1302907299 521716 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Standard MIDI File < 1302907332 942244 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, (if (and (== feed 'onion) (== X 'description)) <-- how inelegant. Should have a map with a flag like "use-desc" or such < 1302907344 327139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should just have a function per source. < 1302907355 887332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it was just designed for the BBC, I'm not gonna rearchitecture until tomorrow when I'm awake :P < 1302907365 770504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still fairly elegant *shrug* < 1302907368 665030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (if (get Article 'description) (pack ": " @)) " " < 1302907371 767883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ good use of anaphoric if here < 1302907372 853292 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Add the Swedish one please :) < 1302907378 315291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah ok relink me < 1302907380 971497 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1302907388 698177 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://api.sr.se/api/rssfeed/rssfeed.aspx?rssfeed=2054 < 1302907421 235563 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, funny the link text is http://www.sr.se/rssfeed/rssfeed.aspx?rssfeed=2054, but it links to http://api.sr.se/api/rssfeed/rssfeed.aspx?rssfeed=2054 < 1302907427 122129 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is on http://sverigesradio.se/sida/default.aspx?programID=2358 < 1302907452 657986 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, the link text one redirects < 1302907501 14078 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302907505 581355 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302907506 512045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sweden < 1302907512 454398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdata fail < 1302907518 6950 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, aww :( < 1302907521 398150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just gives me an xml parse error < 1302907524 306203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :waay too lazy to fix < 1302907529 736527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :got another source? < 1302907532 872270 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1302907535 880761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ultra-right-wing papers preferred! < 1302907540 792113 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so the xml parser is incomplete? < 1302907545 889734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very incomplete :) < 1302907566 742272 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I know of good Swedish ones. But not ones in English. Hm maybe. < 1302907581 890824 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe thelocal has something < 1302907622 143336 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, where the fuck is the RSS icon in firefox 4? < 1302907646 472091 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, this one while not CDATA fails you other criteria I think: http://www.thelocal.se/RSS/theLocal.xml < 1302907646 721532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use firefox < 1302907657 664620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks fine to me? < 1302907660 693471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wia < 1302907661 213882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1302907662 327098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not rss 2 < 1302907668 612108 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, look at link/url < 1302907677 34121 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1302907678 13457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok < 1302907685 552336 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's the image < 1302907690 874730 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay it does use link < 1302907704 275758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not rss 2 < 1302907775 666242 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what is the actual relevant difference? < 1302907784 381795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :different tag names < 1302907788 337476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cba to change code < 1302907804 529964 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1302907809 492071 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1302907830 773478 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, could you just strip out the CDATA stuff with some regex? It might work < 1302907840 523438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, tomorrow. < 1302907850 365691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for today... rss 2 without cdata only :) < 1302907909 285466 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, don't know any. And SR (Sveriges Radio) is *the* good news source in Sweden. Same status as BBC has in UK basically. Except we split Radio and TV in separate companies < 1302907912 977651 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we have SVT < 1302907917 204888 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe they have something < 1302907918 560215 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check < 1302907931 89439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should add fox news! < 1302907934 261581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to go with the onion < 1302907949 482144 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, does the bot without any topic mentioned use any random source? < 1302907959 417192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it just uses main bbc < 1302907962 543316 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1302907966 828411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should change that. < 1302907974 152595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be easy < 1302907974 577869 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not if you add fox no :P < 1302907980 370317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES IF I ADD FOX :D < 1302907984 846896 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on < 1302907996 905346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gawd < 1302907998 654088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's atom < 1302908008 518975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1302908010 881881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rss 2 < 1302908011 536890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1302908013 358221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atom namespace < 1302908014 882624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cdata < 1302908015 373229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1302908016 614507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1302908021 555550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as much a clusterfuck as the news < 1302908029 997442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"news" < 1302908041 23099 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :utter fail. I searched on svt.se, clicked a result. Got a 404 without the actual error code < 1302908058 770041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :view-source:http://www.reddit.com/.rss GUESS WHAT QUALIFIES < 1302908108 248261 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, this website design. Where you you rate it on a scale from 0 to 9? http://svt.se/2.42317/english < 1302908117 648040 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, someone is claiming that no languages have an OO system written in themselves. Any counterexamples? < 1302908135 659015 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302908136 906259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Common Lisp? Sort of. < 1302908139 191125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham reddi < 1302908140 210115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham reddit < 1302908141 553389 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actor Trevor Bannister dies at 76: Are You Being Served? star Trevor Bannister has died at the age of 76, his brother confirms to the BBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13098312 < 1302908142 144978 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the US Department of Justice give so many shits about Major League Baseball players on Steroids? http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/gqtoc/why_does_the_us_department_of_justice_give_so/ < 1302908144 983670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham reddit < 1302908145 815751 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy kicks ball, impossibly wins £250,000. [vid] http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/gqnp2/guy_kicks_ball_impossibly_wins_250000_vid/ < 1302908158 58600 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : well, let me rephrase that "the official implementations of most, if not all, popular interpretive object-oriented languages" < 1302908161 338311 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1302908163 111824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: uh. it's ugly. < 1302908164 969584 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps self
< 1302908166 885408 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, quite < 1302908169 56588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: not the worst i've seen :P < 1302908186 411933 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah that one with hundreds of images you played websplat on is worse < 1302908192 489254 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot the name of it < 1302908194 36336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that went down < 1302908194 702957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1302908196 33086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip havenworks < 1302908198 987591 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh < 1302908200 254688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't think it had rss UNFORTUNATELY < 1302908200 746101 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Havenwor.. dammit < 1302908209 492809 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1302908255 192009 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I conclude that if svt.se has RSS, there is a severe lack of English such. < 1302908264 500229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :laem < 1302908268 462703 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure it has Swedish rss < 1302908275 215084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try page source < 1302908275 874861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1302908303 88995 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, nothing there, I found RSS in search, but actually clicking the result gave 404 without the proper http status code < 1302908337 330167 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad web site design: http://sverigesradio.se/ worse web site design: http://svt.se/ Loading time of both are horrible < 1302908351 558964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson, sweden sucks < 1302908360 324863 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the mobile sr.se works well < 1302908365 128773 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't seem to access it atm < 1302908375 699836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ ;; WHOOPS LOOK AT THAT BEST NEWS WEBSITE UI EVER, NON-MOBILEVERSION < 1302908385 889705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loads instantly, typographically sound, web standards, clean design! < 1302908390 188035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA HA BRITAIN RULES YOU < 1302908449 152083 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :m.sverigesradio.se is a redirect? what? However it does work from my phone. Just checked. < 1302908453 2348 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks the same as it did before < 1302908459 372842 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sad they broke it for computers somehow < 1302908598 218840 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1302908689 393595 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and yes, bbc is quite okay. Still rather slow and large < 1302908698 213055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's instant from inside uk < 1302908708 121455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be lucky your backwater country even gets signal! < 1302908801 221636 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302908804 975957 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&topic=h&num=3&output=rss < 1302908805 396949 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, who's being stupid in #picolisp right now, me or Arm? < 1302908817 717098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno prolly arm < 1302908860 226803 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, reason google news rss feed sucks: < 1302908863 875718 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="7" style=" [...] < 1302908866 331565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1302908898 455391 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, cyborg_ar agrees with me < 1302908905 282481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1302908937 392294 :cheater00!~cheater@g228061182.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1302908987 433419 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone not me now needs to write new-sham which dispenses markovian "business opportunities" < 1302909004 463201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. news-ham. < 1302909005 687287 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Car thief crashes through level crossing: Footage has been released of a car thief smashing through a level crossing seconds before a train passed through. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-england-13094294 < 1302909007 672842 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes you now < 1302909009 71467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I UPDATED MAIN PAGE < 1302909012 41951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AGAIN < 1302909013 640111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS EVEN PRETTIER < 1302909041 524242 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, issue: it doesn't scroll sideways :( < 1302909051 590987 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : indeed. news-ham. <-- i don't think you got the gist of the "'s, there < 1302909052 805635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1302909053 568575 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swirling waters: The school swimming club where all but two died in Japan's tsunami http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-asia-pacific-13083528 < 1302909055 917164 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, joke < 1302909057 864981 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1302909062 885433 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, about ais523's scrolling before < 1302909065 477660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi < 1302909068 861676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh < 1302909093 618766 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but indeed it must scroll sideways when maximised on my 24" monitor < 1302909099 543917 :cheater-!~cheater@g230231007.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1302909125 722680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it would take too much effort to force the page to have a horizontal scrollbar whilst otherwise keeping everything the same < 1302909125 872536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there'd be no point < 1302909143 892956 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1302909169 206056 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, btw for me it doesn't scroll vertically either < 1302909188 392255 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I feel weird understanding Picolisp better than Arm < 1302909194 673135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nor for me < 1302909198 944737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think hes a committer < 1302909200 446893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's small enough to fit on the screen < 1302909206 364031 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, didn't you say you wanted that? < 1302909214 493645 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm? < 1302909216 351867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think you missed the point completely < 1302909238 296799 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, probably. I tried to figure it out and didn't find much sense in it < 1302909259 393482 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you wanted to scroll to hide the header I think? < 1302909271 55230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you are still missing hte opint < 1302909273 863484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the point < 1302909280 372299 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what *was* the point then? < 1302909298 213849 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, has anyone done a MI TAS btw? < 1302909307 503014 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for any MI[1-3] < 1302909308 719650 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1302909309 209695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1302909369 728192 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: User:Racoon needs deletion (and probably banning) < 1302909395 670748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how recent is that? < 1302909406 966627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember seeing it on my recent changes feed < 1302909412 705310 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from today or yesterday < 1302909417 689685 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :history says yesterday < 1302909466 981521 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but it came in that Funciton flurry probably. if your rss reader is like mine it may drop changes when there are too many? < 1302909498 137104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be a mediawiki issue, in fact < 1302909516 305558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just delete it for now, and give a really nasty sort of block if the same account does anything else spammy < 1302909518 821189 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe. i have that problem with the Godel's Letter comment feed. < 1302909538 623629 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(never see more than the 10 latest) < 1302909595 242525 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :The unoccupied (occupied) states [...] <-- what < 1302909612 363112 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it makes kind of sense in the full sentence: < 1302909615 935638 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The unoccupied (occupied) states, colored in blue-red (yellow-green), touch each other without energy gap exactly at the above-mentioned six k-vectors." < 1302909621 702359 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, extremely awkward < 1302909676 585041 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1302910010 601759 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:TOGA_computer < 1302910119 175957 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(needs deletion) < 1302910339 670287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deleted < 1302910350 359798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't normally block the spambots instantly, only if they do it a second or third time < 1302910906 667623 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, huh for clear spambots, why not? < 1302910912 337802 :Fuco!~dota.keys@188.123.106.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302910922 969843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because often they never post again, so it would be a waste < 1302910927 862520 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1302910931 674960 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what does it waste? < 1302910934 423436 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates it when mediawiki's diff fails spectacularly at matching old and new bits
< 1302910953 623452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: my time; other people's time when they read the banlist < 1302910960 142526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clogging recent changes < 1302910962 485037 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1302911407 260292 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some C programming where you are allowed to access the activation records directly? < 1302911655 631115 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't cheney on the mta based on being able to do that? < 1302911679 197297 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what records? < 1302911686 60570 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait maybe it just needs setjmp/longjmp < 1302911701 76002 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what are you two talking about? < 1302911727 68460 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just thinking about where direct access might already be used < 1302911774 839183 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1302911800 731169 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no < 1302911809 238880 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Despite this, the C code does not copy C stack frames, only Scheme objects, so it does not require knowledge of the C implementation. < 1302911818 538241 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_(Scheme_implementation))