< 1303862512 789850 :Germille!~Doodlefag@80.Red-79-155-175.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303862558 881603 :Germille!~Doodlefag@80.Red-79-155-175.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net PART :#esoteric < 1303862884 427098 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1303863520 358656 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303863917 819229 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1303864297 54869 :huntercool!~hunter@60-240-132-253.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1303864298 104587 :jackylu!~jackylu@218.75.16.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303864317 394418 :huntercool!~hunter@60-240-132-253.tpgi.com.au PART :#esoteric < 1303864737 75966 :jackylu!~jackylu@218.75.16.107 PART :#esoteric < 1303864909 631641 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY WHY WHY does any computer charger I own invariably get such that it's flaky? < 1303865223 735465 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1303866334 327772 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1303866787 268842 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303867833 557453 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1303868249 33577 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-29-191.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303868299 49624 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-29-191.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303868969 108871 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-29-191.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303870602 509523 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-29-191.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303870791 480515 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-29-191.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303870873 79999 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-29-191.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303871614 108956 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-29-191.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303871647 855992 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-29-191.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303873115 558950 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303873339 819356 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is still stunned at how very many build systems don't automagically handle dependencies.
< 1303873835 946912 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the autotools way of handling it is better than some of the shit out there. < 1303874024 584862 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why the pfargtle are there so many Makefile generators? < 1303874041 198683 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topological sort is *not that hard* people! < 1303874230 204141 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1303875575 44350 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: define: automagically < 1303875681 635563 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Without having to actually go to any effort to declare dependencies. < 1303875696 583978 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Does -MM and the like count? < 1303875707 588289 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's effort. < 1303875733 221151 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be able to say "The following C files are in the following program. Make it fucking happen." < 1303875766 899400 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1303875768 653863 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I agree with you < 1303875923 114408 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Makefile generators are such a freaking stupid and pointless idea. < 1303875975 133898 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, let's make this non-standard tool, which people will have to learn how to use, and install seperately... But let's make it use Make, because they're familiar with how to use Make, and its limitations!" < 1303875982 433388 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worst of both worlds. < 1303876142 899436 :pgimeno!~pgimeno@195-5-95-34.usul.arrakis.es JOIN :#esoteric < 1303876154 784341 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is especially confused by Automake.
< 1303876190 137702 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any particular reason they had to generate a Makefile, even then? < 1303876275 370839 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ? < 1303876374 804942 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :make understand dependencies and (in modern times) parallelism. By using Makefiles, you get incremental rebuilds and parallel builds nearly free. < 1303876455 414078 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Didn't understand parallel builds back then. < 1303876493 591681 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And Automake's documentation continues to advocate recursive make, which means it doesn't understand dependencies. < 1303876538 910537 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence "(in modern times)", and recursive make can be made to understand dependencies so long as the separate processes are sufficiently distinct. < 1303876559 788581 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, more precisely, it can be made to correctly not understand dependencies. < 1303876588 386839 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it so rarely is made to do so. < 1303876621 913220 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And? You think some newfangled custom creation cobbled together from scripts and distributed as part of the source would do better? < 1303876654 969554 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm simply saying that Automake could have been a decent build system from the start, rather than a newfangled custom creation cobbled together from scripts. < 1303876663 110213 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it couldn't have. < 1303876669 879230 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I asked why. < 1303876685 397338 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Auto* set out to be something that could be run on any vaguely-Unixy system. < 1303876702 995860 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its requirements are sh, make and a not-entirely-braindead suite of core utilities. < 1303876719 954495 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And GNU m4. < 1303876723 464298 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1303876729 373577 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's its DEVELOPER dependency. < 1303876734 433213 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :USERS do not need it. < 1303876737 400994 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, fair enough. < 1303876747 546374 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not "fair enough", that's exactly what makes autotools autotools. < 1303876772 19801 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, that's mostly irrelevant nowadays, but in the context of its original design it makes sense. < 1303876843 284286 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it? Keep in mind that someone using it is almost certainly going to be building a C program, meaning that they also have a not-entirely-braindead C compiler. < 1303876879 22289 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning that having a C program instead of a cobbled-together bunch of scripts would not be unreasonable. < 1303877331 94071 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303877932 553948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gallery/FRQtX < 1303878028 633578 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303878058 291943 :vorik111!~vorik111@c-71-58-65-188.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303878099 394055 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Finland: the only place with winters Russia is afraid of. < 1303878099 963840 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1303878176 588339 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt kliment a finnish name tho? was the russian commander a fin? < 1303878254 900247 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's apparently a Slavicisation of Latin "CLEMENT". < 1303878354 381691 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Jeeze*. < 1303878394 148471 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kliment Voroshilov was apparently a very notable Russian figure. One of the kinds of tanks used in that war was *named after him*. < 1303878404 623380 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was ordering around Kliment Voroshilov tanks. < 1303878899 93759 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gallery/lEeOM look at first comment < 1303879017 263704 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win. < 1303879057 502370 :tim000!~tim000@74-137-120-92.dhcp.insightbb.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303879086 364419 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gallery/aBglP "who printed the man page for gcc?" < 1303879165 184970 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks more like the man page for mplayer. < 1303879256 313808 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088164227.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1303879350 280249 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303879466 695109 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1303880304 479922 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-33-184.resnet.ucsb.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303881206 962338 :pgimeno!~pgimeno@195-5-95-34.usul.arrakis.es PART #esoteric :"This is the default part message" < 1303882185 131205 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking Colorado. < 1303882197 466354 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's snowing rather *well*. < 1303882487 240453 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coldorado < 1303882647 52613 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know it's bad when a Norwegian is mocking you. < 1303882647 846839 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1303882673 904023 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was snowing here only a couple weeks ago < 1303882688 649781 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so < 1303882717 199723 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still a bit weird having it snowing this late in April. < 1303882820 321324 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, I shouldn't be so weirded out. I've had blizzards for my birthday (~a month ago)... < 1303885262 309057 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303885443 723410 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1303886010 583460 :Tritonio!~AndChat@178.147.9.45 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303886487 72219 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1303886674 466364 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1303886850 858018 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1303887118 657495 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1303887231 390501 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303887902 408785 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1303888034 577785 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1303888393 969081 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the what? "Quaint" and "cunt" are cognates. < 1303888430 900910 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no, that's a bullshit claim that I should have read more about before posting. < 1303889144 180601 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303889148 759564 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-123-149.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1303889177 558050 :Slereah!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-46-107.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1303889620 659737 :Tritonio_Droid!~AndChat@178.147.105.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303889706 322216 :Tritonio!~AndChat@178.147.9.45 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303890790 727861 :Tritonio_Droid!~AndChat@178.147.105.99 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1303890926 300375 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you shouldn't have corrected yourself < 1303891385 763159 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-226.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1303891738 766036 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1303891765 279234 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1303891808 704401 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1303892217 697685 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-33-184.resnet.ucsb.edu QUIT :Quit: bye < 1303892563 867641 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1303892715 300315 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.simplimg.com/product_images/8ABpR.jpg < 1303892822 441469 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1303893581 982936 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1303893589 43104 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303893864 273432 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303894662 651578 :pingveno1!~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1303894706 808648 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1303894707 92977 :pingveno!~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1303894728 581698 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303895589 335903 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1303895619 983414 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303895743 962305 :pingveno!~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303895802 703425 :pingveno1!~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303896876 206534 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a good guideline for knowing when to comment?: If you have to think about the code you're about to write, there should be a comment < 1303899133 550089 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, if you have to think, you should rewrite it so it would be obvious < 1303899153 892244 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :comments are mostly useless and indicate you don't know what you're doing:) < 1303899171 402474 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1303899502 952120 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should only comment when the language does something a person less experienced would not notice < 1303899755 256454 :vorik111!~vorik111@c-71-58-65-188.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's a minimum level of experience you can expect that person to have. < 1303899775 461354 :vorik111!~vorik111@c-71-58-65-188.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on your corporate policy also. < 1303899815 292860 :vorik111!~vorik111@c-71-58-65-188.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :commenting always referred to documentation for a particular managed change to the code. < 1303899823 7523 :vorik111!~vorik111@c-71-58-65-188.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :specification documents < 1303899860 110848 :vorik111!~vorik111@c-71-58-65-188.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"managed change" is the key oxymoron here :) < 1303900328 322972 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to comment to write out a piece of math that I needed to write out before fully understanding what I was doing < 1303900395 571375 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I'm screaming at C# for not having a nice comprehendible way of getting the lengths of single dimensions in a multidimensional array < 1303900587 404414 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with foo.GetLength(0) .. foo.GetLength(n-1), where n is the number of dimensions? < 1303900610 467526 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me not checking that GetLength() takes a dimension < 1303900610 866466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1303900772 749444 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has to be done in 4.5 hours :( < 1303901005 881842 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. What I'm doing here crappily would be far better modelled in a prototype OOP system < 1303901012 730989 :vorik111!~vorik111@c-71-58-65-188.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comments don't need to stay. if you need a comment to organize your thoughts, do it. then erase the evidence of any noobery. < 1303901016 5122 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..maybe < 1303901053 27779 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION excises the bit that was manipulating a multidimensional array
< 1303901289 997192 :vorik111!~vorik111@c-71-58-65-188.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :vorik111|zzz < 1303902041 928528 :Tritonio!~AndChat@178.146.129.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303902121 938070 :Tritonio_Droid!~AndChat@ix.ceid.upatras.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1303902343 76499 :Tritonio!~AndChat@178.146.129.64 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1303902468 685664 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1303902870 530394 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to be offline for a while. House shaking due to roof being replaced. This doesn't bode well for the HDDs. Besides it is time to clean the computer case. < 1303902905 452908 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1303904298 651542 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1303905032 858702 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org QUIT :Excess Flood < 1303905039 769422 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1303905042 829293 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1303905065 106870 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org NICK :Guest72394 < 1303905301 517764 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303905314 684648 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303905536 685989 :siracusa!~siracusa@p54ACFE36.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1303905628 67971 :siracusa!~siracusa@p54ACE5C4.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303905715 61160 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1303905997 857436 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303906455 865122 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.186.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303906458 69093 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant JOIN :#esoteric < 1303907542 744373 :Guest72394!Gregor@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1303907948 848555 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROOF being replaced? < 1303907950 246880 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf lol < 1303908562 819124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1303908963 911105 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303909980 472010 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303910616 827488 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303911655 321675 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1303912623 157335 :Kordalien!~chatzilla@adsl-67-117-131-211.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303912723 925643 :Kordalien!~chatzilla@adsl-67-117-131-211.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1303913206 406222 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1303913974 269725 :newpuppyuser2!~root@27.110.233.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303914048 275047 :newpuppyuser2!~root@27.110.233.216 PART :#esoteric < 1303914868 76474 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTES < 1303914868 265841 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : The behavior of fputws() depends on the LC_CTYPE category of the current locale. < 1303914868 266107 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the absence of additional information passed to the fopen(3) call, it is reasonable to expect that fputws() will actually write the multibyte string corresponding to the wide-character string ws. < 1303914875 669948 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that last sentence. < 1303915062 74584 :`Fuco`!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1303915135 37688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303915242 351601 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303915602 859369 :Germille!~Doodlefag@74.Red-79-151-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303915627 237158 :Germille!~Doodlefag@74.Red-79-151-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hai guys < 1303915645 539374 :Germille!~Doodlefag@74.Red-79-151-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the pro hacker on steroids that do crazy programming languages? < 1303916001 995672 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1303916181 90678 :Tritonio_Droid!~AndChat@ix.ceid.upatras.gr QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1303916227 45461 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Germille, at least one of those things are true. < 1303916227 336401 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1303916279 471272 :Tritonio!~AndChat@ix.ceid.upatras.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1303916310 168959 :Tritonio!~AndChat@ix.ceid.upatras.gr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303916825 253705 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Germille: no we just do malbolge < 1303917739 5264 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1303917767 158850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303918032 524420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ais523. < 1303918035 148670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also hi Germille. < 1303918048 38500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1303918065 18711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: -> #scapegoat < 1303918085 215427 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacker on steroid? < 1303918668 858407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1303918695 465160 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303918819 812516 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish dosbox had a curses mode. < 1303919245 48988 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1303919811 877048 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303920305 64595 :Germille!~Doodlefag@74.Red-79-151-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1303920328 672602 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303920366 359142 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-94-133.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1303920366 548367 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-94-133.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1303920366 548522 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303920577 880812 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303921006 615749 :Mannerisky!~mannerisk@71.38.40.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1303921101 608460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1303921161 92576 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.186.17 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1303921737 330535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I fear patent lawyers are going to birthday-paradox themselves at this rate < 1303921746 750689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patents are abbreviated to the last three digits of their numbers in legal filings < 1303921758 860190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have more than about 30 patents mentioned in one filing, there's quite a large chance of a collision < 1303921823 353768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could always disambiguate, presumably < 1303921875 458730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is "evinces" a real word? < 1303921882 425236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This inequitable conduct evinces Microsoft’s unclean hands and taints Microsoft’s entire portfolio." < 1303921890 790041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely they meant "evidences"? or is this something I'm missing < 1303921892 356958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1303921964 450608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :evinces3rd person singular present of e·vince (Verb) < 1303921964 676204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. Reveal the presence of (a quality or feeling). < 1303921964 676381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. Be evidence of; indicate: "man's inhumanity to man as evinced in the use of torture". More » < 1303921966 421506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, what am i saying < 1303921971 10910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: to evince something is to read it with Evince < 1303921978 441649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like your definitoin better < 1303921979 170847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, they took a look at Microsoft's unclean hands, in PDF form < 1303922046 414555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an actual Microsoft sues Linux (specifically Android, which is based on the Linux kernel but not most of the other stuff "Linux" implies) case, which is interesting that it's happened < 1303922127 737312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft really don't seem to give a shit about Linux < 1303922143 396830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've made, like, a handful of adverts targeting it altogether, I can only think of one < 1303922145 215815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they only get upset at it where it competes with them, I think < 1303922154 546039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on the desktop, it doesn't meaningfully < 1303922162 210545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've attacked it quite heavily on the server, but mostly lost that battle < 1303922167 832848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are starting to attack it in the portables space, now < 1303922173 414307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one I'm thinking of was an old sever ad, yup < 1303922255 838747 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Microsoft really don't seem to give a shit about Linux ← hmm, I thought the big thing about the Halloween documents was that it demonstrated that they do, just not publicly. < 1303922284 673054 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: what anti-gay attitude? < 1303922292 902675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, OK, but those are pretty oooold. < 1303922296 272384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me, the Halloween documents demonstrated that they were aware it existed (not surprising), and were considering how much of a threat it was to their business model (also not surprising) < 1303922307 196836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: wat? < 1303922318 171033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they demonstrated that Linux was a serious threat to them then (it wasn't), but that they were keeping an eye on it just in case < 1303922337 809080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ISTR some kind of "crush" verbiage, but crushing things is kind of Microsoft's default stance. < 1303922364 36562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1303923040 429974 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks that you can find teh galois group of a polynomial but still not know how to solve it < 1303923052 447365 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :its lik ewow whats the point then? < 1303923102 392873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :id unnol ol < 1303923104 702613 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-constructive < 1303923121 471522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah we should all be bob the builder instead < 1303923127 580471 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1303923142 339843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1303923151 868073 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOB DTHE BILDER < 1303923162 273121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boabe thebsueld < 1303923171 849334 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :cha d nfex it < 1303923176 330527 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :? yes he can < 1303923195 854950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :greatest poem. < 1303923203 485585 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey I liked my poem yersteday < 1303923210 914919 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone got it though < 1303923220 948269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all stupid here. < 1303923224 732655 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's < 1303923232 689876 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :sincte left the bracketing out to make it remind of "a rose is a rose is a rose" < 1303923252 695389 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the actual intended bracketing was not ((p or not p) or (not (p or not p))) < 1303923315 276254 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is interesting < 1303923335 149167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1303923346 332677 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problems of solvability and non-solvability of algebraic, transcendental and differential equa- < 1303923349 491328 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :tions in explicit form, including Liouville theory, classical and differential Galois theory, and Picard- < 1303923352 572781 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vessiot theory, will be addressed from the geometry and analysis point of view. The course will be < 1303923363 939129 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it'll probably be a let down < 1303923426 764518 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1303923430 185391 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't post his lecture notes < 1303923620 408539 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So we've defined something very close to a uniform probability distribution on the integers, and all it took was the axiom of choice" < 1303923624 378036 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all?? lol < 1303923962 151919 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://mathoverflow.net/questions/63127/is-this-joke-unfunny-closed < 1303923985 671145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this < 1303924119 817826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: ? < 1303924124 937379 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1303924151 655383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not an answer < 1303924157 612032 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't post his lecture notes < 1303924164 808094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant the mathoverflow links < 1303924167 325016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1303924167 514135 :`Fuco`!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz NICK :Fuco < 1303924171 954046 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAE think that the Kronecker Delta would be an awesome name for a spaceship < 1303924176 710121 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from being a very important term in linear algebra, haha. < 1303924183 476875 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :more top quality discussion from reddit < 1303924210 290490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you're not answering my question < 1303924213 20724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1303924219 216981 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no super-calculator or anything like that... But I love algebra. Basically math in everyday life. < 1303924222 76993 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day I worked out how long it would take to try each combination of sauce (15 Sauces, 2 sauces in a combination) on chicken strips in the cafeteria. When I mentioned this to one of my friends on a weekend trip, he basically laughed his ass off. Imagine my surprise... Why do my peers not see the sense in that?? < 1303924266 582824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: are you going to...? < 1303924273 171743 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1303924286 790474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : crystal-cola: ? < 1303924287 41167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes < 1303924287 230207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's not an answer < 1303924287 230374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : he didn't post his lecture notes < 1303924287 230483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : i meant the mathoverflow links < 1303924287 880606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : link < 1303924290 475259 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :goint where < 1303924290 664402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : what is this < 1303924296 629934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: what? < 1303924304 389375 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry what do you wnat? < 1303924315 608742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was asking "what is this" to the mathoverflow link < 1303924318 758607 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1303924325 779228 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just funny < 1303924339 997138 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wants to differentatie with respect to pi < 1303924347 139705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1303924375 21030 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :know any good tips for getting to sleep when you're nto that tired?O < 1303924450 114366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm terrible at falling asleep. melatonin seems to help quite a bit, though. < 1303924546 428427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you find it easier to sleep in the sun? < 1303924612 703518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what < 1303924620 711782 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is melatonin < 1303924623 617112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the usual source of melatonin? < 1303924628 291539 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1303924628 480843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, darkness is < 1303924637 631531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: Melatonin (pronounced /ˌmɛləˈtoʊnɪn/ ( listen)), also known chemically as N-acetyl-5-methoxytryptamine,[1] is a naturally occurring compound found in animals, plants, and microbes.[2][3] In animals, circulating levels of the hormone melatonin vary in a daily cycle, thereby allowing the entrainment of the circadian rhythms of several biological functions.[4] < 1303924637 911725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many biological effects of melatonin are produced through activation of melatonin receptors,[5] while others are due to its role as a pervasive and powerful antioxidant,[6] with a particular role in the protection of nuclear and mitochondrial DNA.[7] < 1303924638 101943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In mammals, melatonin is secreted into the blood by the pineal gland in the brain. Known as the "hormone of darkness", it is secreted in darkness in both day-active (diurnal) and night-active (nocturnal) animals.[8] < 1303924645 583102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr it regulates your circadian rhythm < 1303924650 262785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I've got it backwards, tehn < 1303924651 730636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1303924657 979481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its use as a supplement is pretty common in the US < 1303924667 350057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where it's classified as a "dietary supplement") < 1303924697 755409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I find the best way to get to sleep at a particular time is to get into a rhythm; and also, to have to wake up early the next day < 1303924726 922426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I sleep easiest when I have nothing to do the next day, and find it absolutely impossible to get into any kind of rhythm < 1303924729 385527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the latter situation is because humans are quite capable of falling asleep and waking up at will, but it isn't under conscious control, so you need to get your subconscious to do it somehow) < 1303924740 852876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sometimes I flat-out cannot sleep at all because of having to get up early the next day) < 1303924748 253385 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :soooo < 1303924749 561350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that's the other way round from me, then < 1303924751 462984 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should Ido? < 1303924755 501084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you wake up 5 minutes before the time you set your alarm to, too? < 1303924757 322745 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wish melatonin comes < 1303924768 210410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: erm, I mean I take it as a supplement < 1303924771 989637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: you could try the placebo effect < 1303924779 331440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you believe you can fall asleep easily, you will < 1303924782 588615 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1303924784 683769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use the kiddie liquid bottle because i can't swallow pills :) < 1303924786 858983 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am gonna listen to a story < 1303924788 687957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just practice lying until you fool yourself < 1303924792 390784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that only works for people who are good at self-delusion :) < 1303924803 216919 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that I am good at self delusion < 1303924805 946399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: actually i find the idea of convincing myself i can fall asleep easily more horrifying than the gain of being able to do so < 1303924815 288401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I got better at swallowing pills, when I had to for three weeks < 1303924831 571367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : do you wake up 5 minutes before the time you set your alarm to, too? < 1303924833 883421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end, I decided that the best method was to swallow some water first, then physically force the pill down my own throat, using my fingers < 1303924834 72587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to < 1303924838 570997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now alarms don't wake me at all < 1303924842 763039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nor can anything else < 1303924847 388564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is quite different from the usual wash-the-pill-down method < 1303924858 181936 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : in the end, I decided that the best method was to swallow some water first, then physically force the p... down my own throat, ... < 1303924869 109605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it was funnier the first time < 1303924878 72334 :Tritonio!~TrT@150.140.231.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303924880 810415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ...which is quite different from the usual wash-the-pill-down method < 1303924883 570907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1303924885 592324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[asterisk]p... < 1303924897 689403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now on to less stupid things < 1303924906 810743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kidding, everything we talk about is stupid < 1303924907 141 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehey < 1303924908 447027 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not stupid < 1303924910 139828 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1303924913 350753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1303924918 451967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep i totally said you were stupid < 1303924920 387153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what i said < 1303924925 640619 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :listen < 1303924936 614991 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOS20plm7UM < 1303924936 805904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am listening < 1303924967 928548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they totally ruined that whale song with their remix wtf < 1303924971 551610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guitar totally doesn't go with whale. < 1303924981 560413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait was that minecraft... < 1303924986 898135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY JOKE IS RUINED < 1303925020 865270 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :what :D < 1303925276 675778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1303925313 783587 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :minecarft... fuckin sick of that game < 1303925321 481538 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :"acheivements" < 1303925346 422033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :achievements are perfectly ignorable. < 1303925564 627249 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNIC: 3x1k+2x256+/32+/48 to Australia, 4x1k to China, 3x1k to India, 8x1k+2x/32 to Japan, 1k to Malaysia, 1k to New Caledonia, 1k to Taiwan, 3x1k to Vietnam. < 1303925576 839443 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't look good. :-/ < 1303926081 626207 :Tritonio!~TrT@150.140.231.138 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1303926114 244959 :Tritonio!~TrT@150.140.231.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303926117 558395 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.9909328 blocks of IPv6 space free, 0.98796 blocks IPv4 space free. < 1303926240 412752 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: Any further progress with finding the base solutions of n|5^n-3^n? :-) < 1303926255 171742 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been thinking about it today < 1303926269 620584 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1303926275 529645 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :can n be a multiple of 3 or 5? < 1303926292 413493 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember if we proved that impossible or just 5 2^k impossible < 1303926371 430976 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: No, 3 or 5 can't divide n for any solution. < 1303926386 529599 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :iin that case it means that 3 and 5 are invertible < 1303926392 99619 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we could rewrite it like < 1303926400 433951 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3/5)^n - 1 < 1303926402 57710 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :n | (3/5)^n - 1 < 1303926434 267346 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the problem with that is the value 5^-1 depends on n < 1303926446 971839 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, only depends ok k. < 1303926447 156670 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it could be useful though < 1303926451 975066 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1303926455 82387 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :tahts true < 1303926467 689559 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it can help a lot but who knows < 1303926543 317169 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5^(k*2^r) == 3^(k*2^r) (mod k). Multiplying this yields: 1 == ((3/5)^k)^(2^r) (mod k). < 1303926600 551252 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3/5)^k mod k is easy to calculate. < 1303926686 196919 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? :S < 1303926688 249986 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But x^(2^r) mod k isn't, since r has upper bound of k^2. < 1303926688 733832 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to do it < 1303926696 622903 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1303926720 200067 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invert 5 mod k, multiply mod k and use modexp. < 1303926751 330804 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no formula for it < 1303926763 777886 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, if one could compute order of (3/5)^k mod k in Z_k... < 1303926830 5130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Slashdot are busy discussing the JavaScript "for (x in document.write) {document.write(x);}", which apparently crashes IE6 < 1303926835 966640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out what, if anything, it means < 1303926919 724224 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would write every property of document.write into the document. < 1303926952 864679 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, document.write should have NO properties, so why that would do anything is beyond me. < 1303926956 170501 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, we are talking about IE6. < 1303926961 551577 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For k=17, 3/5 mod k is 4. 4^17 mod 17 is 4. The order of 4 is 4, and therefore r_min is 2. < 1303926966 700501 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all I know, one of the properties is < 1303926966 889855 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might have a "prototype" property. That's what I get for a random function. < 1303926985 169164 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It should have a prototype property, but AFAIK that shouldn't be indexed by for...in. < 1303927013 536753 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, yeah, s/every/every enumerable/ above :P < 1303927033 595236 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: Basically, The order of (3/5)^k mod k in Z_k must be power of two for there be solutions of form k*2^r. < 1303927092 359065 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: Which actually brings r_min bound down to: r_min < k. < 1303927097 822712 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is of course just an empirical test, but < 1303927098 691236 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :js> function foo() { return 42; } < 1303927098 939708 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :js> for (x in foo) print(x); < 1303927099 128758 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :prototype < 1303927132 527676 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1303927149 494682 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: I think that gives a very fast algorithm to to check it ! < 1303927156 423880 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps.. only fast to eliminate < 1303927199 649872 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: Nope, it is still exponential. < 1303927212 749079 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, oh well < 1303927232 784505 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hm. What engine? < 1303927234 536933 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that inversion assumes k is not multiple of 5, but it can't be multiple of it anyway. < 1303927255 845526 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :function foo() {}; for (var x in foo) print(x); // has no output for me < 1303927284 858394 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ECMA-262 does say the "prototype" property has a false [[Enumerable]] attribute, so that sounds more right. < 1303927297 521512 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This "js" seems to be from Rhino. < 1303927303 197417 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Which is why I'm curious what --- ah, Rhino. < 1303927311 271657 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious, Rhino shouldn't be so broken, it's from Mozilla :P < 1303927320 548938 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, until I came 'round, Narcissus was broken *flexes* < 1303927390 186030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303927610 383739 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, even tighter bound: 2^r_min must divide phi(k). < 1303927781 667099 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since phi(k) = prod((p_l-1)*p_l^(m_l-1)) and k is odd, this is the sum of power of two in all distinct prime factors of k. < 1303927813 856465 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot tighetr actually because the number of primes factors seems small < 1303927865 402193 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. For k = 2329... 2329 = 17 * 136 -> r_min <= 4 + 3 = 7. < 1303927894 33907 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how did you get 4 + 3 < 1303927894 615724 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1303927906 488590 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1303927917 668645 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :4|phi(17) and 3|phi(136) < 1303927935 551104 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^4 and 2^34 < 1303927936 829304 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^4 and 2^3 < 1303928029 782987 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a vast improvement over old bound of 2329! < 1303928039 766989 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :D < 1303928054 497087 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it can be used to compute a large amont fo data on the irreducible pairs < 1303928070 965468 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that will be enough to find what they are < 1303928130 640739 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One can actually apply it to that 3^(k*2^r)==5^(k*2^r) (mod k) formula (which doesn't need element inversion. < 1303928207 303175 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, with that sort of algorithm, the factorization of k is the only thing that is superpolynomial. The algorithm is subexponential with efficient integer factorization. < 1303928239 221253 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one could just generate lots of prmies < 1303928246 263550 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiply all the odd ones together and check them < 1303928256 591659 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually: Even faster algorithm: phi(k) < k. Take ceil(log2(k)) as upper bound. < 1303928278 668858 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's linear. < 1303928537 224260 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303928600 969416 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combined with powmod algorithm, the whole thing is fully polynomial-time. < 1303928610 268392 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1303928670 964471 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1303928680 138656 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to sneeze on his math professor
< 1303928701 487609 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1303928707 928637 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he not profess the right math < 1303928722 520941 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola, I'll let this channel decide that < 1303928732 103873 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell tell < 1303928840 215714 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one doesn't need to factorize k values in order to tell if those are reducable or not: One can use gcd to extract the relevant factors. < 1303928880 808803 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah I didn't think of that, that's really naet < 1303928883 991407 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1303928924 466470 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :624272c5c20b7799dc73c6050405d2ba41487c4b < 1303928927 497164 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ SHA-1 < 1303928951 505322 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When looking at a uniform continuous probability distribution, is or is not the height of the line a probability? < 1303929030 328343 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, compute gcds aginst all previous known irreducable k's, divide them out. Repeat until all gcds give 1. If the number is still not 1, then add the original to irreducables. < 1303929061 806850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ais523: YOU WILL HAVE YOUR QUOTE SOON < 1303929066 705435 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :382) ais523: YOU WILL HAVE YOUR QUOTE SOON < 1303929102 921927 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or add it anyway if r_min is smaller than largest among non-coprime irreducable k. < 1303929111 518967 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, comment? < 1303929115 235419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1303929121 675060 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, read logs? < 1303929123 97581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been paged, setting off grumpy bastard mode < 1303929126 567111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware < 1303929146 107256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what are you paging me for < 1303929159 319509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To hopefully answer my question < 1303929171 191832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what question < 1303929173 462081 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It isn't a probabilty. It is probabilty density. < 1303929188 637718 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I thought < 1303929193 781952 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell my math professor < 1303929206 86701 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what I SHA-1'd: I assert that it is not a probability. I attempted to show examples where it would be 4, and where what he claimed was not compatible with using a more general formula he gave to work out the answer. < 1303929208 85752 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: To have any real probabilty for some value in continuous distribution, you need a delta function at that value. < 1303929258 271832 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What notation would one use for a probability density? < 1303929268 940171 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he said "density" at one point, maybe, but dropped it later < 1303929280 152777 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And did use P(X) as its label... < 1303929297 151705 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given continuous distribution p(x) the probabilty for value in range [x1,x2] is int(p(x),x,x1,x2). < 1303929319 670752 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so his notation is acceptable? < 1303929363 280677 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why did he say that my example of a uniform distribution between 0 and 1/4 must be impossible, because P(X) would be 4 and that's not a valid probability < 1303929395 387378 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have uniform distribution over any finite interval. < 1303929416 25385 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe he misunderstood what I was saying? < 1303929425 445093 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION , defender of idiots
< 1303929436 126221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, Sgeo, for obsoleting me entirely. < 1303929449 230270 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, he was pretty ticked at me. Told me to wipe the smug smile off my face, and asked if I wanted to teach the class < 1303929453 523003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303929459 285357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because he teaches at a terrible college < 1303929466 276947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is a failure < 1303929485 284199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like that obama guy what does he do all day anyway < 1303929504 392972 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With continuous distributions, the condition for validity is that the integral of probabilty desntity over support must be exactly 1. < 1303929529 615099 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, is there a way to get you in contact with my math professor? < 1303929580 131009 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the pdf is nothing to do with an actual probability; the integral of it is. < 1303929584 532048 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: looks like you were right, so in my view you should just stop caring now < 1303929592 650315 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for continuous ones, of course) < 1303929601 789156 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you said everything already, trying to convince him wont work - he might realize it though < 1303929609 168571 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, it occurs to me that he did say pdf < 1303929612 57371 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if your math professor did say so then it is unfortunate < 1303929686 746358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pdf is a document format idiots ;D < 1303929725 581188 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For discrete distribution, the sum of all probablities must equal 1 of course. < 1303929762 570509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in my attempts to understand him in a way that made him not an idiot, I asked if we were talking about discrete distributions. He said no. < 1303929766 915378 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all discreate distributions can be represented as continuous ones (but that results in delta spikes). < 1303929776 335142 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :why get upset about it anyway < 1303929780 924830 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :After I was done trying to present my proof, he decided to reteach me what a discrete distribution was < 1303929781 905586 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :just be right about everrything < 1303929784 266558 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :and deal with it < 1303929791 230496 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola, I just want to be certain that I'm not utterly mistaken < 1303929804 243696 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you need to get your defintiions < 1303929807 33695 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :and check everything < 1303929813 161340 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you aren't sure that you are right < 1303929830 358932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : just be right about everrything < 1303929830 589536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : and deal with it < 1303929831 888798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this what you do < 1303929860 47523 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to be right abut this < 1303929868 937021 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :just write out the definition of probaility distribution or whatever it is < 1303929869 861227 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola, that's what I intended to do by asking here < 1303929870 96368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said about everything < 1303929877 640286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you could also try thinking < 1303929892 987160 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well can you say formall what it is you're wondering? < 1303929894 581410 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was my thinking that lead me to my conclusion that he was wrong < 1303929895 22466 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :formally < 1303929902 73252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: you scallywag: http://www.pastie.org/private/orzgwxc2ax80vrs8v0rew < 1303929922 931354 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: in society we are normall taught that "if thinking makes you think $authority_figure is wrong, stop thinking" < 1303929929 993007 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: maybe it's just that effect < 1303929953 849841 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is the theorem ro whatever? < 1303929960 507452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we actually taught that explicitly or implicitly < 1303929968 669509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a difference between that and it arising from other teachings < 1303929968 859379 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1303930009 374672 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy on the net is pissing me off < 1303930030 822903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an unusual occurrence!!! < 1303930045 153472 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah... If your doctor told you you have 4.0mmol/l of LDL in your blood, would you believe it? :-) < 1303930060 722441 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would because I don't know what LDL is :S < 1303930077 881772 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bites Sgeo
< 1303930085 510959 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked for theorems < 1303930100 927336 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't, because that is utterly ridiculous amount. < 1303930101 689387 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola, is there a theorem proving that probability distribution isn't probability? < 1303930117 935788 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no im just asking "what is it you're not certain about" < 1303930139 582171 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola, that somehow, by some means that I don't understand, my professor might be right somehow < 1303930147 197452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: i have 9009 mmol/l of LDL in my tiger blood. < 1303930150 643979 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this a hard concept < 1303930156 28598 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :im asking you what the mathematical statement is < 1303930166 254582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, another esowiki link on proggit < 1303930168 436993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going to be painful < 1303930188 989012 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a probability? < 1303930194 948508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow the joke is that it has fap in it < 1303930195 803984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO FUNNY < 1303930201 144533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so funny i made it in here years ago < 1303930243 144649 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: okay I give up :( < 1303930249 83269 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't get sense out of you < 1303930250 913339 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola, what do you want? < 1303930260 170800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: gigo < 1303930265 727341 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had some kind of disagreement with your teacher < 1303930275 341947 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :what mathematical statement is it that you are questioning < 1303930285 219600 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no you < 1303930294 113782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: i was attempting to help you communicate < 1303930305 475676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: crystal-cola wants you to write out your disagreement in Coq < 1303930307 495710 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola, his claim, that 1/(b-a) in a continuous distribution is a probability of some sort < 1303930321 580434 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is completely vauge < 1303930332 297925 :pingveno1!~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1303930332 487043 :pingveno!~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1303930362 243144 :pingveno!~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303930433 718323 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take a picture < 1303930479 728789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh joy < 1303930487 453148 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :joy in joy out < 1303930536 790160 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/farXp.jpg < 1303930542 126930 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=normal+distribution+with+mean%3D0+sigma%3D0.01 pdf with a peak of ~40. < 1303930578 646026 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even fucking read it < 1303930601 391802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get dijkstra to write it out for you < 1303930610 536144 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you say that the probability of X = 160 in the example of uniform distribution was 1/50 did you mean P(159,5 no, if you have to think, you should rewrite it so it would be obvious < 1303931213 530339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:12:33: comments are mostly useless and indicate you don't know what you're doing:) < 1303931225 465559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuco: this is true only when you are writing software requiring no complex algorithms whatsoever < 1303931227 448279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., trivial software < 1303931254 139264 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be a complex algorithm < 1303931273 272113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you have to ask..." < 1303931292 526665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true, applications that amount to an interface to a database require pretty much no commenting. < 1303931341 659252 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently working on big constraint solver library (www.unitime.org), there are hardly any comments in the code < 1303931357 247035 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :the code can still be obvious < 1303931363 77330 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, you have to study the algorithm < 1303931372 471944 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not the problem of how you rewrite it in some prog. language < 1303931406 953737 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I know I'm going to write IFS with perturbation counter or whatever, I can study that beforehand < 1303931412 294491 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :and than write code that is understandable < 1303931420 16850 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :for people who are familiar with it obviously < 1303931423 731493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it can easily be reductio-ad-absurdumed: if comments were never necessary, mathematical papers would have no English text < 1303931426 285298 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :but otherwise you shouldn't read it anyway < 1303931439 680024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuco: that doesn't work if you're creating new algorithms for the purpose < 1303931443 286727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nobody is familiar < 1303931454 558528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and telling people "hey go look at this paper I wrote" is just a comment that you've collapsed into a url < 1303931456 465350 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's what research papers are for < 1303931457 694479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is more likely to get out-of-date < 1303931459 801438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above < 1303931473 669342 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303931476 200146 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a binary < 1303931481 17512 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial or research papers < 1303931488 846874 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an interesting idea < 1303931492 408455 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the future will be like that < 1303931497 61215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait let's be like zzo < 1303931500 948775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAKE YOUR PROGRAM A BOOK < 1303931504 189055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO YOU CAN PRINT OUT A BOOK THAT'S YOUR PROGRAM < 1303931506 925144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEST OF BOTH WORLDS < 1303931513 65618 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :X) < 1303931522 400472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND THEN PUBLISH YOUR BOOKRAM IN THE RESEARCH JOURNALS < 1303931533 3094 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: most mathematical papers are in chinese anzwazs. < 1303931534 980534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone can scan it and OCR it and compile it < 1303931559 715918 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, anyways. < 1303931575 630688 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't there a crypto book that was just the source code to a program? < 1303931580 605514 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :anzwazs <-- lol < 1303931589 472144 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, typo. < 1303931604 637055 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be a real world < 1303931610 123888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in german < 1303931618 288139 :vorik111|zzz!~vorik111@c-71-58-65-188.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :vorik111 < 1303931622 955046 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way < 1303931647 45541 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the human language text in mathematical proofs is not code duplication of the rest, unlike it is with comments < 1303931873 409903 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _just_ realized that I may have a password lying around with Sony < 1303931879 200763 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's on PSN or not < 1303931921 839420 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sego: _Cracking DES_ includes OCR-able source code. < 1303931954 204086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did all these new people come from anyway < 1303931957 937805 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name is not Sg?? Eo?? < 1303931961 978032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it another one of those stealth invasions < 1303931981 673606 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops, I meant Sgeo. < 1303931990 504636 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have let tab completion do the job for me. l[ < 1303931993 822706 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, ;] < 1303932031 783138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GETTIN' SUSPICIOUS HERE < 1303932059 247474 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is station.sony.com connected to PSN? < 1303932080 246682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: Are you from the Haskell army. < 1303932088 494736 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who, me? < 1303932094 494378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1303932096 495295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an interrogation. < 1303932117 450195 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's my right against self-incrimination? < 1303932133 30953 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Haskell, but I'm not in the army. < 1303932138 309085 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303932143 386396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: Absolutely nonexistent is what it is. < 1303932152 389549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just verifying you're not one of those #haskell agents. < 1303932160 686424 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has there been an influx of Haskellistas here? < 1303932166 272241 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steven Sego. < 1303932187 357082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur likes to mention it < 1303932190 437684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think copumpkin did once < 1303932196 777302 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Representatives from SOE reminded people that SOE systems and databases are separate from PSN's" < 1303932200 84713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically we're drowning in haskellers. < 1303932204 434464 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1303932205 834577 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1303932218 21911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter if you use haskell, it's being from there that's the issue :D < 1303932218 277462 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a friend of mine who is into Haskell more than I am did tip me off to the channel. < 1303932230 483865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: who was it, we'll have them dispatched swiftly < 1303932232 282252 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he probably frequents the channel. < 1303932235 332620 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not here. < 1303932246 561364 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is he < 1303932249 500679 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's been gone off IRC for about a week, I think he's busy. < 1303932253 826986 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT TELLING. < 1303932256 480186 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a good guy. < 1303932258 379539 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :OUT WITH IT < 1303932258 570367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, who's here and been off irc for about a week < 1303932262 188321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll grep logs < 1303932268 923335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1303932271 100055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to go about this < 1303932271 569388 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR OUT WITH YOU < 1303932280 439280 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, on the other hand, am just a languages nut. < 1303932289 150610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could grep for all names here in the past week, and then grep the current logs for all those names < 1303932293 198662 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I didn't know about this channel. < 1303932293 772107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and find the ones with no matches < 1303932303 300039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, this is a viable plan < 1303932303 600500 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: there's lots of places like this < 1303932306 906753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabs a guess at oerjan
< 1303932317 744583 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has been here this week < 1303932319 411471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so monday is twentyfifth < 1303932320 560214 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1303932330 747040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wish i had my number keys round about now < 1303932338 868608 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^nr < 1303932339 449920 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1234567890-=~!@#$%^&*()_+ < 1303932342 303537 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1303932351 562966 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why all the #haskell influx anyway? < 1303932361 29437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people here are in there < 1303932367 138754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mentioning this channel is fUN < 1303932371 840742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and addictive, clearly < 1303932384 819250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[~/logs/_esoteric]% echo 2011-04-[20-27].txt 1 < 1303932385 53760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh: no matches found: 2011-04-[20-27].txt < 1303932385 242862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah zsh stop being terrible :( < 1303932394 550848 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :frustrating when people don't clarify their questions < 1303932409 137121 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if they don't want to be understood < 1303932618 639811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: is it impomatic < 1303932628 258851 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:23 < dnm_> NOT TELLING. < 1303932636 608678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :% for nick in `awk '/<.*>/ { gsub(/[<>]/, "", $2); print $2 }' 2011-04-{20,21,22,23,24,25}.txt | sort -u`; do if ! grep -c "$nick" 2011-04-{25,26,27}.txt >/dev/null; then echo $nick; fi; done < 1303932639 401908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at this monster, people < 1303932645 198239 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will not be your monkey..., er, oracle. < 1303932647 479405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrote a long annoying shell line for him < 1303932652 143002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :narrowed it down to very few people < 1303932656 373560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet still he tortures me so < 1303932674 375898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoroughly shocking < 1303932700 451015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, hmm, perhaps it is rapido or Mathnerd314 < 1303932702 952596 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fairly readable. < 1303932713 125301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: ok but it was still annoying to write :) bear in mind i have no number keys < 1303932716 10831 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303932734 499136 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man. < 1303932742 872332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, technically it could also be TeruFSX or FireFly, if they keep their irc client running while they're away < 1303932743 279046 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ugh. < 1303932746 249728 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wiki is great compared to the old catseye site. < 1303932757 979145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: lol, cat's eye just has cpressey's languages < 1303932758 460528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.tc/ < 1303932776 636955 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but it's what I was used to as my jumping off point for esolang stuff. < 1303932781 210961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1303932792 75932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with the wiki is that... 90 percent of the languages are crap < 1303932798 325147 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheheheh < 1303932804 993448 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the epiphany I had when I first encountered Unlambda. < 1303932822 612188 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1303932835 670089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, dnm_ connects through a vps so I can't use geolocation to track down who it could be < 1303932841 989583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm dedicated to my lynchings, me < 1303932874 647353 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bwahahahah/ < 1303932888 346917 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you can find out where the VPS is. < 1303932904 130614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't exactly help, since anyone can buy a linode and it'll be in a us data centre < 1303932906 447160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe european, dunno < 1303932927 598364 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1303932939 313695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i could interrogate everyone who comes back next week. < 1303932946 431370 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, I'm publicly logged on other freenode channels already. I'm in the D.C. area. < 1303932970 92916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS that narrows it down to absolutely everyone since this is the internet < 1303932971 718577 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the haps my friends. < 1303932977 957101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHERE'S NEWS HAM DAMMIT < 1303932991 283614 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303932991 894821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the news ham is right here < 1303932993 26609 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least everyone is a finite number! < 1303933001 630357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: Is it TeruFSX < 1303933005 297260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the technology haps my friends. < 1303933006 95391 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kindle gets library book lending: Users of Amazon's Kindle e-reader will soon be able to borrow electronic books from libraries in the US. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13155967 < 1303933036 312896 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :"kindle" makes me wanna puke < 1303933044 26917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for your valuable opinion < 1303933047 702910 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: haha that's great < 1303933050 547588 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urban birds have bigger brains: City dwelling birds have larger brains relative to their body size, according to scientists. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_9468000/9468306.stm < 1303933054 577830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1303933056 811047 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :kindle sympathizer < 1303933058 191526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone /msg it < 1303933061 800635 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :you disgust me < 1303933065 139413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: what exactly is pukeworthy about the kindle < 1303933071 131066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from the amazon shit < 1303933073 805187 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup news-ham < 1303933074 819983 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK economy sees return to growth: The UK economy grew 0.5% in the first three months of this year, making up ground lost at the end of 2010. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-13206430 < 1303933076 831177 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amazon shit? < 1303933083 470727 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice, news-ham < 1303933085 569304 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :World Snooker live - O'Sullivan v Higgins: Three-time Crucible champions Ronnie O'Sullivan and John Higgins continue their battle for a spot in the World Championship semi-finals. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/sport1/hi/other_sports/snooker/9469117.stm < 1303933091 19056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the remote control bullshit which is irrelevant if you just pirate the books :) < 1303933093 270182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok who is doing that < 1303933093 979027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1303933098 300301 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not into snooker news-ham < 1303933099 257369 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killed daredevil was new recruit: A stunt man who plunged to his death at a Kent show was a new recruit to the daredevil team, according to a friend. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-england-13205471 < 1303933103 713147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1303933106 229982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i leave it in debug mode < 1303933110 216667 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's a user you have on ignore] < 1303933114 40252 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: are you a bot? < 1303933115 17726 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ban on stem-cell patents 'wrong': Research involving human embryonic stem cells in Europe is under threat, says a group of leading scientists. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/health-13214036 < 1303933129 810803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see < 1303933139 324311 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also can it do specific topic news? < 1303933144 119484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1303933145 813282 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :like news about ham (for example)? < 1303933158 26044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll paste a list, gimme a second < 1303933178 211954 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303933183 294951 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303933198 913139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: http://sprunge.us/ULSS < 1303933224 489645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: just mention it in your message. science and magic. < 1303933280 862206 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: sup? < 1303933285 272979 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw! < 1303933286 682129 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1303933295 375044 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads wiki page on DateFuck
< 1303933304 906324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the magic haps my friends. < 1303933305 300624 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hillarious. Not what I was expecting. < 1303933305 489989 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'More pupil benchmarks' to come: The English Baccalaureate is the first of many new performance measures, as ministers seek to make information available to parents in England, says Schools Minister Nick Gibb. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13207055 < 1303933322 658142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_, is it a BRAINFUCK DERIVATIVE? < 1303933323 744901 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: are you just being slow? < 1303933333 792860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it starts with brainfuck and takes away all brainfuck instructions < 1303933341 623975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also semantics < 1303933344 848681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of any kind < 1303933354 445117 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham reddit < 1303933354 843776 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cutie does a cover of "6 Foot 7 Foot" by Lil Wayne...wait? Whats that in the background?!?!? http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/gykip/cutie_does_a_cover_of_6_foot_7_foot_by_lil/ < 1303933363 954349 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool < 1303933368 850057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should return news about reddit instead < 1303933372 503995 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Doesn't seem to be. < 1303933390 451099 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_, THANK GOD < 1303933395 312550 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham art < 1303933396 827759 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fed cuts US GDP growth forecast: The Federal Reserve cuts its economic growth forecast for this year, citing weaker growth than expected in the first three months of the year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-13213424 < 1303933401 611489 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE BRAINFUCK DERIVATIVES SO MUCH GRAAAAAAAAH < 1303933401 800713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: itym "arts" < 1303933412 592261 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham arts < 1303933412 994368 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :McGee 'turns down' Creation drama: Former record label owner and musician Alan McGee turned down the chance to make a drama about his company Creation Records, he reveals. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13162825 < 1303933421 781141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: Phantom_Hoover is three years old, he says hi. < 1303933423 509224 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sic < 1303933423 908185 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Map of the route: Explore the processional route to be taken by the newly-married couple, from Westminster Abbey to Buckingham Palace. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-12819687 < 1303933426 564533 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham sci < 1303933426 920149 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Climate change to hit US rivers: Scarce water supplies in the western US will probably dwindle further as a result of climate change, a US government report says. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-us-canada-13190689 < 1303933440 419069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: do you actually have fingers or do you just kind of mash your face into the keyboard until you get the right sentence < 1303933442 326812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that's what i do < 1303933468 962048 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLOLOL < 1303933479 99539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyb vfvnh < 1303933482 358359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what my face says in response < 1303933586 205686 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham spam < 1303933587 673417 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Timings on the day: The following timings have been confirmed for royal wedding day. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13097243 < 1303933632 911234 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of news < 1303933635 571202 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/the-lay-scientist/2010/sep/24/1 < 1303933722 814276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't seen that before? :P < 1303933732 343044 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1303933739 464848 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not until earlier today. < 1303933745 641647 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303933746 242329 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spacedino.png is my new mascot though < 1303933748 330670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess Americans are a bit slow ;D ;D ;D < 1303933766 731 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1303933768 625220 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: I hate that shit < 1303933777 13725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate satire too < 1303933779 799998 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The article itself, or the style it mocks? < 1303933781 892807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should carry the death penalty < 1303933784 248537 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1303933786 498159 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe my professor didn't have probability confused with probability density, but is so terrible at correcting people that he didn't see that I thought he was saying "probability" < 1303933804 586204 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't mock it because they're guitly < 1303933845 353939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: define they < 1303933852 386830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was written by a single blogger < 1303933857 464240 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :"THEY" < 1303933860 103759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose blog happens to be hosted by the Guardian < 1303933860 857217 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although then again, he suggested that the 0 to 1/4 situation that I set up must be impossible < 1303933875 242019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: ok, please show where Martin Robbins is guilty of what it mocks < 1303933879 713028 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1303933882 240008 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am wrong you got me < 1303933890 35556 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thuoght it was just a guardian article < 1303933899 240639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: isn't it obvious, it has no spelling mistakes < 1303933904 827703 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1303933910 338305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would like to see them print http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/9/24/1285359869220/spacedino.png though :D < 1303933916 468588 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088164227.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303933948 62048 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1303933964 232378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe cover the whole front page with it < 1303933968 592108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAKAWOW is of course the headline < 1303934021 331490 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ron Armontrout" is a great name. < 1303934042 853524 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apropos of nothing) < 1303934084 206928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as good as armouredtrout < 1303934089 439382 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1303934100 81652 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of Armortrout < 1303934104 840475 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it seemed too easy. < 1303934126 118234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ron armontrout seems to be an Actual Name according to google < 1303934163 826443 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303934166 906669 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78.69.168.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1303934201 155787 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1303934206 492040 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a book author, among other things. < 1303934222 136953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonsense, he has no wikipedia article < 1303934223 58116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't < 1303934223 518816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exist < 1303934238 408859 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. < 1303934240 43350 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Irina Lyublinskaya and her colleagues, Dr. Valeriy Ryzhik and Ron Armontrout, just finished a new book titled: Calculus Explorations with Geometry Expressions." < 1303934256 841904 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like something Sgeo would read. < 1303934268 886794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not really, but it has "calculus explorations".) < 1303934333 505277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have to be "calculus adventure fun" < 1303934348 233923 :Tritonio!~TrT@150.140.231.138 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1303934624 115676 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: what is it about? < 1303934698 569375 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teaching Calculus through Geometry Expressions (a graphical constraint-based geometric modeling and math tool) < 1303934705 720033 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.geometryexpressions.com/ < 1303934853 425866 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good? < 1303934865 25473 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cam Welcome to computerized mathematical modeling < 1303934872 115139 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book? I have no idea, I don't have it. I have GX though, and I like it. < 1303934873 937036 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's non-free < 1303934876 763748 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1303934882 817682 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a fucking bullshit shit fuck < 1303934884 27764 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, calculus is only tangentially related to geometry. < 1303934891 528869 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is already a god damn geometry software < 1303934949 204026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: crystal-cola is two days old. he says hi. < 1303934961 956414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm one second old btw < 1303934976 675506 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :im furious < 1303934981 396339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too. < 1303934983 567986 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah, your previous negative age explains so much < 1303934990 33998 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :non free software in education < 1303934991 854021 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRRRR < 1303934993 195205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no, i just hand over to a new elliott every seconds < 1303935016 918528 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah that explains it even better. < 1303935023 755542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: i swear this channel is occasionally interesting. < 1303935032 241265 :dnm_!~dnm@li97-254.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1303935032 436883 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello bluebird on my head, aren't you glad the old one's dead? < 1303935042 226695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnm_: occasionally. < 1303935093 565565 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :one main issue is that a lot of the esoteric programming things were already discussed before. Someone needs to invent something new that oerjan can then prove TC. < 1303935108 785890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never said it was interesting /esolang/ discussion :D < 1303935121 548977 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, gah :P < 1303935122 367269 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be really hard to prove TC < 1303935130 581831 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1303935130 771094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: oolzybub and murphy < 1303935137 25548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tc iff goldbach < 1303935144 633877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry oozlybub < 1303935148 725136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Oozlybub_and_Murphy < 1303935148 957864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.tc/projects/oozlybub-and-murphy/ < 1303935160 669609 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what about that one that switches interpreter every other instruction? < 1303935176 969820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that doesn't really make it hard < 1303935181 393981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not two interpreters, just two different "modes" < 1303935193 156956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oozlybub and Murphy has possibly my favourite name ever. < 1303935203 400843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the justification is better < 1303935203 819522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name of this language is Oozlybub and Murphy. Despite appearances, this name refers to a single language. The majority of the language is named Oozlybub. The fact that the language is not entirely named Oozlybub is named Murphy. Deal with it. < 1303935212 928524 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, indeed but iirc the computational class is not known? < 1303935221 294561 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah, that's the bit I like. < 1303935224 497443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: indeed, but it's strongly suspected to be sub-TC < 1303935242 384859 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite, but do you happen to remember what it was called? < 1303935243 573692 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Goldbach was suspected to be true? < 1303935255 140751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean the other language. < 1303935262 943586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: dupdog < 1303935271 241451 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right < 1303935344 205265 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if the Goldbach Conjecture was false, what would the computational class of Oozlybub and Murphy be? < 1303935360 555424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: sub-TC. < 1303935367 582301 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes but which sub-TC < 1303935372 662577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it wouldn't be able to infinite-loop. < 1303935373 711624 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, FSM? < 1303935376 495297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not very good at all :) < 1303935388 513122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think all loops would be fixed length < 1303935406 808233 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes yes... I gather that. But there is still quite a lot of different computational classes left to choose from < 1303935432 76088 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, for a start would it be bounded by input length? < 1303935440 44437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno. < 1303935455 878016 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1303935502 129567 :Germille!~Doodlefag@98.Red-88-11-253.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303935545 137131 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Once a dynast has been executed, it continues to exist until the program halts, but it may never be executed again." <-- hrrm, what significance does it have that it continues to exist? < 1303935548 325627 :Germille!~Doodlefag@98.Red-88-11-253.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303935558 751042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the number of dynasts matter? dunno. < 1303935562 451138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might just be more chris wackiness. < 1303935588 203498 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "TRIVIA PORTION OF SHOW"? < 1303935598 411701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that, yes. < 1303935643 777827 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I suspect cpressy is somewhat crazy. < 1303935650 486752 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, more than you < 1303935654 441027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :says the only sane and most boring person in here < 1303935665 119673 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1303935665 308991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh look < 1303935665 875410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latest news: 2011.0427: None can avoid the luminous precipitation of Oozlybub and Murphy version 1.1! Read more on our news page, or subscribe to our RSS feed. < 1303935668 355575 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, arguably I'm not completely sane. Or I wouldn't be in here. < 1303935669 497362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just got released < 1303935670 946828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, this second < 1303935676 40278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't there a few minutes ago when i checked < 1303935683 687595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :April 27, 2011: Version 1.1 of the Oozlybub and Murphy programming language has been released. This update tries to clarify some of the errors in the specification while also slathering some extra goo onto it like a wimpmode. Enjoy, then enjoy again, then PLEASE DO KEEP ENJOYING UNTIL YOUR EYES BURN WITH DEEP DEEP CORROSION. < 1303935687 588404 :pingveno!~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1303935691 902695 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wimpmode < 1303935692 91855 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(New in 1.1) An Oozlybub and Murphy program is in wimpmode if it < 1303935692 91943 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :declares a global variable of integer type which matches the string am a wimp, < 1303935692 91988 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example: < 1303935692 92033 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1303935696 74693 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah the newlines < 1303935705 453590 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I saw that when I loaded it a few less minutes ago < 1303935810 567348 :pingveno!~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303935867 669070 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott, arguably I'm not completely sane. Or I wouldn't be in here. <-- maybe your insanity is similar to Gregor's sense of taste < 1303935885 919880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shitty? < 1303935891 568166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's his sense of smell < 1303935897 133660 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you mean, a lot of pink? < 1303935907 505009 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what sort of taste did you mean < 1303935910 874157 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...not that kind of taste < 1303935918 776978 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually maybe that too XD < 1303935935 412774 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh you didn't mean "bad taste" as in "that colour combination is bad taste"? < 1303935940 113149 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but actually literal taste? < 1303935959 250677 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i meant literally. you have not managed to miss Gregor's hyposmia too, have you? < 1303935965 611238 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*euphnarphia < 1303935974 278930 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I believe I have < 1303935974 558977 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sense of fnarf < 1303935987 818221 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hey i corrected it! < 1303936002 96567 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only euphnarphia if it fnarfs good :P < 1303936009 447432 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, BY THE WAY. I had today free. I finished reading homestuck. Or I assume I did, I reached a point of no more "going forward" link. < 1303936025 94861 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did it on another computer that has flash) < 1303936037 119160 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no eu- applies to the sense not to the fnarf < 1303936039 357204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: In... one... day? < 1303936047 647626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It took me and Phantom_Hoover five days. < 1303936048 97100 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, plus a few hours yesterday evening yes < 1303936054 168498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1303936059 418600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You DID expand the pesterlogs right < 1303936063 540587 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1303936070 119398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to step away slowly now < 1303936077 733973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you read three thousand seven hundred strips in one day < 1303936078 928531 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and I read them. I did speed up reading the white guy one by using firebug to change bg colour < 1303936087 529872 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was just a few comics < 1303936089 43436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: erm i just used ctrl+A :D < 1303936099 710048 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, erm, what. < 1303936102 199199 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, what. < 1303936103 214140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't skip the recaps right? < 1303936104 637811 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I found that removed the colour differences between the speakers < 1303936107 21962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE < 1303936116 257770 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Gregor's taste in colors is simply victorian. i read somewhere they thought green and orange went well together < 1303936116 636529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, WE MUST VERIFY < 1303936124 766983 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, actually I did skip the recaps. Or rather I glanced over them. < 1303936138 437686 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl, going to sleep. Early morning tomorrow < 1303936138 822668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They revealed semi-important plot details, but you've probably realised what they were by now. < 1303936141 64712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tend to skim everything I read < 1303936142 994405 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, what is the name of the troll with the scarf? < 1303936157 142394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: If you don't mind I'm going to go sit quietly in a corner and punish myself for being a slow reader. < 1303936286 945989 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, back. < 1303936294 851714 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, hm I think Eridan had one? < 1303936332 707960 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at the all page thingy to confirm this and randomly clicks one mentioning that guy.
< 1303936334 318013 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, did you actually read the Pesterlogs in detail or kind of skim them? < 1303936337 457805 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep seems so http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004349 < 1303936348 556109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you do any other things? < 1303936349 744077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rocks gently in his corner of happiness
< 1303936356 570741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gibbers
< 1303936367 475457 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I ate food. That is about it. Oh and slept a bit during the night, < 1303936376 791259 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that'll be how you did it. < 1303936380 972438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's what I did too < 1303936384 182940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I coded a little bit but still. < 1303936386 992535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Phantom_Hoover you slowed me down. < 1303936391 299161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION awaits reciprocation
< 1303936393 813053 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but you were *utterly* pathetic. < 1303936400 49071 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh and I *did not read* anything but homestuck. None of the previous, problem sleuth and so on < 1303936404 881700 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll leave those for later < 1303936420 362338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kept up with you despite you making me stop when you weren't there and you having nights to get a buffer up. < 1303936427 83053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Problem Sleuth is the only other one, and it's only slightly over a fifth of the length. < 1303936432 690701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The others are ridiculously incomplete and tiny. < 1303936436 548298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'd actually read it all the time I wanted to, I'd have finished sooner. < 1303936439 59444 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1303936441 378165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: EXCUSES < 1303936458 360211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I haven't read PS either because it doesn't look nearly as interesting. < 1303936470 394475 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that time travel in the interlude (forgot which one, when the agents were taking down those green guys) utterly confusing. < 1303936485 906498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's simple. The oven goes forward at one second per second. < 1303936487 697707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any questions? < 1303936492 205167 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, XD < 1303936518 619835 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I meant the other parts. The stuff about following future trail in the past and what not. < 1303936524 462003 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and different timelines < 1303936558 385151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what you are talking about. < 1303936563 900119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha ha. Such lies. < 1303936574 968948 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, always the joker < 1303936580 786972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that's how he managed it. < 1303936584 458106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: P.S. http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=ryanquest is way better than Homestuck. < 1303936598 765323 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were also applying brainpower to the events, rather than just cramming them into our heads. < 1303936607 864561 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, I never liked dinosaur comics.. < 1303936612 867470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE NOT HUMAN < 1303936632 232422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's okay because Ryanquest is basically a gigantic mockery of Ryan North. < 1303936640 881811 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: maybe he just doesn't have any brainpower to apply < 1303936658 800771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah we've totally got all that plot sorted out < 1303936659 510167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally < 1303936668 687924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is extremely obvious what is going on obviously < 1303936675 43690 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll just go through it as fast as you can say "herp derp" 3700 times < 1303936692 611076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936693 629836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936694 990285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936696 976976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936698 379813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936699 467978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, we have it *kind* of sorted out. < 1303936699 790490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936700 976086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936702 398977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936703 630530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936705 766333 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also I never had quite such an feeling of abrupt anti-climax as when I found no "next" button... Worst end of archive binge I ever had. < 1303936706 814996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: sorry busy reading herp derp < 1303936718 675015 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because it was the longest archive binge in number of panels < 1303936720 329861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Your achive binges usually end in something other than a comic with no next button? < 1303936721 485499 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936721 674565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1303936725 560638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303936735 79623 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no, I said worst one, not only one < 1303936743 373372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it didn't really end at a climactic point. < 1303936744 585131 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway IWC took longer to binge than this one < 1303936753 147610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just Terezie dicking around in that room. < 1303936762 270459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A WILD E APPEARS < 1303936767 830817 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well, the journal entry was quite interesting < 1303936775 41533 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Talk: Var needs deletion < 1303936782 436068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no it is the best < 1303936785 729897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am going to make a language based around it < 1303936788 581127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be called Var < 1303936857 798669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION deletes
< 1303936867 434984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you have failed to be happy and love < 1303936887 601074 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, anyway I think I spent ~13 hours on it today and about 4-5 yesterday evening. < 1303936917 70331 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... 18 hours. Impressive, but not astonishing. < 1303936928 366698 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, indeed. It is just elliott who is a slow reader. < 1303936942 508728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, I went at seven hundred and fifty strips per day. < 1303936944 775272 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, and I'm a moderately fast reader. < 1303936950 434836 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that is slow < 1303936951 344181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I had no difficulties staying ahead of PH while awake. < 1303936954 598299 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was slower than him on the Pesterlogs, although I maintain it was because he kept disrupting my reading. < 1303936963 224747 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, come on, have you never finished a Discworld book in a day? < 1303936966 542770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OR MAYBE YOU'RE ILLITERATE < 1303936971 983160 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have, with the recent thick ones. < 1303936973 506089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ANYWAY, AT LEAST OUR REBOUND FROM THE SUDDENLY SLOWISH PACE HAS BEEN EASIER TO WEATHER < 1303936986 622395 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well yes < 1303936992 781581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK admittedly it's just because there's almost certainly a Flash coming up. < 1303936993 565529 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how often does it update? < 1303936993 926891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And because he insisted that I not read far beyond him when he was asleep, which was apparently until four in the afternoon. < 1303936998 495447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Five strips per day. < 1303937009 54569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When it doesn't, it's because something big is coming. Usually. < 1303937029 188028 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... I think I will have to keep up on a weekly basis then. Some days I don't even have time to read a single comic... < 1303937029 395715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (On average, that is.) < 1303937054 255730 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why do you think there is a flash comming up? < 1303937059 616849 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and those are annoying) < 1303937062 445117 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm. why do these spam bots keep making Talk pages for non-existing pages... < 1303937065 795883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You misspelled "awesome"? < 1303937069 847343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dunno. < 1303937075 753960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: fails at enjoying Homestuck. < 1303937089 766540 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well I have no sound connected to the computer < 1303937092 701347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Anyway, because (a) there is never this long between regular strips and (b) SUPER LEAKED INFO suggests it is. < 1303937095 770378 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess I missed out on that aspect < 1303937097 841087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ... < 1303937109 800979 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exploring everything (incl. all trickster mode music room songs and whatnot) in those playable segments takes a whole lot of time. < 1303937110 254348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2x FACEPALM COMBO < 1303937114 783626 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well *shrug* it was just no convenient < 1303937116 971857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can be friends with fizzie. < 1303937141 28770 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've listened to them sounds since then, though. < 1303937148 545735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, so clearly Vorpal will have to as well. < 1303937149 878581 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, since what? < 1303937151 346423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ON ANOTHER FREE DAY < 1303937157 326920 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ?? < 1303937171 154729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Reread with sound on. < 1303937192 993824 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, demand you solve entirely the dynamics of a proton in a day. < 1303937200 483920 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's boring and linear, you'd be great at it. < 1303937216 851880 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I don't think I will have one for several weeks. Due to excessively bad scheduling I had 50% of the "nominal" scheduled time at university this weak, I will have 150% the next week. < 1303937217 75064 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The MSPA wiki has links to most of the sound-enabled ones, that's how I did it posthumously. < 1303937222 341311 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/weak/week/ < 1303937244 441873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you could devote nineteen hours to reading homestuck but zero hours to plugging some speakers in < 1303937258 88046 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> replicate 3700 (:"erp ") <*> "hd" < 1303937259 168122 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["herp ","derp ","herp ","derp ","herp ","derp ","herp ","derp ","herp ","d... < 1303937260 38447 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yeah, it is certainly more linear than homestuck pesterlog convos :D < 1303937275 210759 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-123-149.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you could have it all < 1303937279 102001 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-123-149.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :My empire of derp < 1303937282 669343 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-123-149.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will let you down < 1303937286 636134 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-123-149.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will make you herp < 1303937292 376642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: slow clap < 1303937294 975030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, you are now my favourite person. < 1303937306 674510 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I forgot. I spent two of those 18 hours offline < 1303937308 203998 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ^ < 1303937323 493614 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :one I spent cleaning out my computer case with compressed air < 1303937346 561098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not astonishing, particularly since you obviously got the games done with as quickly as possible. < 1303937358 542425 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, indeed, I hurried with those < 1303937367 929158 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, I *savoured* it. < 1303937371 52586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What games? Sometimes the Flashes were just me standing there and I clicked next." < 1303937371 599526 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, and I never claimed it was astonishing. < 1303937401 96464 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1303937421 974234 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : The MSPA wiki has links to most of the sound-enabled ones, that's how I did it posthumously. <-- got a link to the page listing them? < 1303937441 850757 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the one titled "sound", IIRC. < 1303937466 7705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Sound < 1303937478 484060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that one properly ordered, though? < 1303937497 751793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it lacks at least [S] Kanaya: Return to the core and [S] Seer: Descend. < 1303937501 550904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1303937503 267108 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303937505 320407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Just go on the archive page and grep for [S]. < 1303937506 612308 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seem to be ordered by... track? < 1303937507 854446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why didn't you do that. < 1303937523 822176 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ordered by song, not strip, yes. < 1303937555 692532 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I didn't care about exhaustive rereading, I just listened what sounded interesting. < 1303937557 583755 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303937570 188868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But but ALL the [S]es are awesome. < 1303937581 620972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although clearly Zillyhoo is by far the best. < 1303937586 336664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have based this fact on logic. < 1303937646 416057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: FIGURED OUT HOW HE DID IT < 1303937651 476385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I bet you didn't even read the linked SBaHJ strips. < 1303937655 868942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: MYSTERY SOLVED < 1303937661 445933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As we all know, those take up the remaining hours. < 1303937682 122141 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, those related to dave and drawn incredibly shitty? < 1303937688 875923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and referenced constantly. < 1303937702 998782 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read a few. But I have problem with that level of shitty drawing < 1303937709 990339 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes I skipped most < 1303937718 228915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not drawn, man, he retroactively went back and made them all with the SBaHJifier. < 1303937727 235471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is canon insofar as I believe it as of this line. < 1303937737 419319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, at least one of them provided a plot hint. :p < 1303937740 176441 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, besides there didn't seem to be many things related to the main plot there < 1303937745 576360 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh, okay < 1303937758 686882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("are you next?" when Kanaya died linked to a strip where someone (Jeff?) was killed for being a vampire, IIRC.) < 1303937764 146947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IIRC IIRC IIRC.) < 1303937769 835520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, LOL I TOTALLY ROTTHIRTEENED THE ABOVE LINE < 1303937774 178525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303937774 723082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303937775 108032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303937775 489973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303937775 809916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303937776 131013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303937777 409472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303937778 983707 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1303937780 482940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know how up-to-date fizzie is.) < 1303937791 433979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp < 1303937793 382245 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1303937798 209578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bats. < 1303937800 479706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bats and cats. < 1303937802 786404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats and herp derp. < 1303937817 136424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie probably has like a two hundred line IRC window, so this could take a while. < 1303937826 979260 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also I'm having problems keeping up with the huge cast. Plus I'm bad a remembering names in real life. I'm much better with remembering faces than names. < 1303937838 938051 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so those pesterlogs are sometimes a bit confusing. < 1303937851 548377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even look at anything but the colour and the typing quirk. < 1303937887 348357 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes that kind of helps. A bit. < 1303937902 879222 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet one of these centuries i'll find enough time to read/play through all of homestuck < 1303937908 622287 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am looking through the 99x20 phone-terminal, so no worries there. < 1303937920 56956 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it'll be any time soon tho < 1303937921 101703 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also last currentsized myself today.) < 1303937926 655309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Fair 'nuff then. < 1303937929 393039 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is that 99 lines? < 1303937931 715121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Only takes NINETEEN HOURS if you're Vorpal. < 1303937935 453658 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 20 lines? < 1303937944 558995 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Width times height. < 1303937947 182671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Eighty by twenty-four should make the answer obvious. < 1303937966 107227 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, dude he has a rotated monitor. < 1303937971 238197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Come to think of it I could probably do it entirely by colour, but it's hard not to notice the quirks. < 1303937973 26988 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, he is obviously crazy :P < 1303937987 929035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Anyway, you have ... what was it, six less to deal with by now. < 1303937998 155954 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, 18-2 (one for cleaning computer case, it was alarmingly dusty) = 16. < 1303938002 724260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, six. < 1303938016 275244 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, 6 less what? < 1303938030 134073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Gebyyf. Gurl'ir xvaqn qvrq. < 1303938035 41704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously quintopia will one day recall this conversation < 1303938040 88242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT IS WHY I MUST ROTTHIRTEEN < 1303938043 550226 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.178.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1303938046 521445 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a rot13 converter at hand < 1303938048 504571 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah spoiler all you want < 1303938051 759973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rot[thirteen].com < 1303938052 586729 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't care enough < 1303938055 560590 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: install php < 1303938055 993701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no js required) < 1303938062 279277 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, could try /msg ? < 1303938062 799630 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has advanced cryptography options < 1303938067 391745 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :v unir n pbairegre ohvyg vagb zl pyvrag < 1303938073 462833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1303938085 636766 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Also last currentsized myself today.) < 1303938091 854658 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tr a-z n-za-m" is always handy. < 1303938100 908037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLEARLY WE SHOULD START OUR OWN FANBASE < 1303938107 234997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WILL HAVE BLACKJACK < 1303938109 514615 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND HOOKERS < 1303938116 101632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, forget the hookers. < 1303938213 590372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hereby declare that -minecraft is now the hash-esoteric Homestuck channel. < 1303938217 806037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was easy. < 1303938230 735225 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hell no < 1303938244 701473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's not like it gets much traffic. < 1303938256 359167 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : one main issue is that a lot of the esoteric programming things were already discussed before. Someone needs to invent something new that oerjan can then prove TC. < 1303938268 757468 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes? < 1303938303 19454 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good to have a purpose... < 1303938384 221275 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303938392 719026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what ASCII character "a bunch of pool balls animating rapidly" is. < 1303938453 552003 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it doesn't matter if you use haskell, it's being from there that's the issue :D < 1303938467 915676 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey nothing wrong with haskellers, we need more purely functional esolangs < 1303938483 2025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said < 1303938484 344309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't matter < 1303938487 507263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just THE CHANNEL OF EVIL < 1303938538 997655 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone could make a purely functional dialect of Perl, and call it Purl < 1303938571 24924 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be confused with a lolcode dialect < 1303938711 803334 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now a purely functional lolcode dialect... < 1303938763 962845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1303938766 412565 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*purrly functional programming < 1303938771 580375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1303938799 268485 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's almost worth doing < 1303938802 864518 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAI! I CAN HAZ FIBBY? < 1303938805 950330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALMOST < 1303938837 577472 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : now a purely functional lolcode dialect... < 1303938837 766738 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : *purrly functional programming < 1303938839 631856 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY < 1303938842 138397 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is wrong < 1303938846 737697 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is oerjan who make the puns < 1303938848 161065 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not olsner < 1303938850 731072 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHERE FIBBY LIKE 1 THEN ZIP WITH PLUS OF FIBBY AND TAIL OF FIBBY < 1303938876 908732 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, s/PLUS/PUS/ obviously < 1303938904 658678 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: maybe I'm just also oerjan < 1303938907 295528 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i'm not fluent in lolcat < 1303938912 756510 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually PUSS) < 1303938925 304577 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, nor am I < 1303938937 754216 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I was trying to make a cat joke but typoed it < 1303938939 913558 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: one of those is the fluid you drain from an abscess, I wonder which < 1303938959 851989 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, puss = kitty. I typoed first time < 1303938979 739896 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make a self modifying programming language? < 1303938988 769251 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not TC until you've interacted with it enough < 1303939000 57777 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :like at first it's just random output or something < 1303939046 742278 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it would have to be very random then, because a language which becomes TC after giving it a fixed input is itself TC < 1303939112 789036 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean at first it's just randomly responding < 1303939117 877433 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can train it into a useable language < 1303939141 66285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like Petrovich < 1303939173 43936 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1303939184 601028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/petrovich.html < 1303939193 523516 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1303939197 197188 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mean like that really < 1303939233 17545 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a simple self modifying algorithm which you can train to be a properl language < 1303939419 320747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's just a TC language < 1303939425 121299 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares < 1303939429 911241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1303939710 726980 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just a TC language" :) < 1303939798 743423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're so cliche < 1303940104 862318 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ican't thin khow to make it < 1303940130 251975 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :its too hard to create this idea < 1303940169 976084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevant game idea: you have to mash on the keyboard, and you win if the statistical randomness is good enough < 1303940195 504898 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like programming perl? < 1303940218 661830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1303940446 644188 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you measure "entropy" of IRC users? < 1303940453 972046 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an IRC bot < 1303940483 968922 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B132DE2.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224] < 1303940540 866192 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-23-177.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1303940566 774116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :define all those words < 1303940567 962395 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: well, can you? < 1303940753 19012 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know about entropy < 1303940820 165515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :define entropy < 1303940831 669519 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what it is < 1303940841 638204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1303940852 373630 :Germille!~Doodlefag@98.Red-88-11-253.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net QUIT :Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more? < 1303940853 622848 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I did I wouldn't need to ask this question < 1303940857 306947 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :entropy is the expected information in each new bit, given knowledge of the previous ones. < 1303940859 228156 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :since then I would know the answer < 1303940879 485786 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we compute it to within say 3 decimal places for IRC users? < 1303940897 393884 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a markov chain analysis could do at least an approximation < 1303940910 442856 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do we know that markov chain is related to entropy though? < 1303940929 241353 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean doesn't that assume we're markov chains? :/ < 1303940963 698174 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. it's an approximation, you look at all sequences of n letters and see what usually follows them. < 1303940964 691352 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like that just takes the language into account and not the higher level concepts that a person decides to talk about < 1303940975 627335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you want a strong ai that understands what we talk about < 1303940978 484863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you go implement that < 1303940989 95989 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as n -> infinity, if you had a large corpus it would give the entropy < 1303940991 576454 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the entropy of someone that thinks about completely different things every day < 1303941015 73708 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :is much higher than that of someone who just talks about footbal everyday < 1303941017 889784 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and indeed you are right about the higher level concepts not being captured this way < 1303941037 482033 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we all use english language (pretty much) I'm guessing our entropy is roughly equal < 1303941046 744912 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't really "win" < 1303941061 514378 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read that the entropy is supposedly approximately one bit per letter < 1303941074 830997 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really low :( < 1303941079 687349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: that's a good thing < 1303941083 895743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :language should be redundant < 1303941091 647010 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :we shuould have much higher entropy < 1303941092 227160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes transmission and understanding easier < 1303941093 747112 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR that ~10 bits per word is normal for english < 1303941119 94757 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey what would an "opposite" markovv chain do? < 1303941123 554344 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the word entropy, which would be a different thing than character or byte entropy < 1303941127 323621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: be incoherent < 1303941130 484110 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a markov chain that always outputs the LEAST probable symbol? < 1303941135 996877 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you make that?? < 1303941136 185892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried that once, I think < 1303941137 611237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just incoherent < 1303941142 824790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: yes, take a regular one and change max to min < 1303941147 251825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just spews nonsense constantly < 1303941153 428353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it only ever repeats phrases people have said < 1303941155 276458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if it's word-based) < 1303941159 91514 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1303941159 280677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not "TEH MOST RANDOM TEXT" < 1303941163 627292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just "things people have only said once" < 1303941164 768130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1303941170 60553 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was TEH MOST RNADOM TEXT < 1303941175 900022 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :want* < 1303941181 999612 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but I eman < 1303941182 699406 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :mean < 1303941184 483221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sort of impossible with any corpus-based solution < 1303941188 223497 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-30-54.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303941188 968791 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a thing that outputs a sequence of bits < 1303941205 941928 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it also predicts what output it is going to do and does the opposite < 1303941244 566016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when anyone says "imagine a thing/machine", I get this immediate image of a literal black box with LEDs on the front < 1303941252 119254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not hollow, it's solid < 1303941256 625926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :inside is pure, one hundred percent unobtanium < 1303941261 283744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no power cord or anything < 1303941262 23381 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1303941263 606275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take my black boxes seriously < 1303941274 582213 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :so given some bits how do I predict the next one? < 1303941276 651582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: now imagine The Internet - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg < 1303941282 81338 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have cod for it? < 1303941288 906185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: hmm < 1303941301 621598 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: maybe if you output the _second_ most likely letter instead of the last you could get something less incoherent... < 1303941301 944771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: seen it :D < 1303941306 40304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: I think you need to, like < 1303941311 908240 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I want maximally random < 1303941312 882658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: rework the markov chain each time < 1303941313 575277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1303941320 464125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by predicts < 1303941321 897477 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, obviously, you live in the country that had it on TV after all < 1303941323 344395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean with a markov chain, right? < 1303941325 245740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we know the order etc. < 1303941329 936802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: nope i watched it on the internet < 1303941348 224967 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching the internet on the internet! mind blown < 1303941352 896505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1303941383 872127 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so given some bits how do I predict the next one? <-- the markov chain method is to have a corpus and count the frequencies of each possibility for following the bits < 1303941440 377190 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so essentially you just work from a lot of examples < 1303941458 959291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yep, but it's interesting in that < 1303941472 207154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't output the bits it generates automatically < 1303941484 522391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(presumably) once it gathers a sufficient corpus (fixed known size) < 1303941488 73121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it creates its own markov chain < 1303941492 293592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then picks the least probable outcome each time < 1303941492 990654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1303941505 41571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so actually it's just a device that outputs a fixed number of bits... and a markov chain < 1303941505 504983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1303941553 223516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: are the bits random? < 1303941563 32082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and the thing is, it then works that response into its markov chain, presumably < 1303941566 261757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :increasing its frequency by one < 1303941574 716527 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: teh bits are the least probable output < 1303941576 257006 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that may not be very related to any "real" probability of an outcome, especially if you look at more than one bit at a time < 1303941580 822208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: no, i mean initially < 1303941589 906252 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :well initially it prints out 1 < 1303941592 270108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: you can't use an empty markov chain :) < 1303941596 702648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: you need more than that < 1303941600 703035 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it prints 0 (because that's less probable than printing out 1) < 1303941611 412199 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what it prints next < 1303941613 182366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: does it use an order-one markov chain? < 1303941618 663043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't really work because it only has zero and one, I think < 1303941621 661921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd want an order-four or so < 1303941622 200644 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what happens if there is 50% chance < 1303941634 959492 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :why wont just zero and one work? < 1303941647 519654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: because it'd just end up going zero, one, zero, one < 1303941654 578901 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1303941657 728527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1303941661 355009 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wont go 0101 < 1303941663 518939 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could start with order 1 initially and then go up as you get more data < 1303941667 540589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it will, because it's order one < 1303941668 48264 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will goo 0100 or 0111 < 1303941669 479116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: good idea < 1303941674 391553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe log_two(bits outputted) < 1303941677 349314 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have you decided that it is order one < 1303941677 860188 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1303941692 560813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: because i asked < 1303941696 320317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> crystal-cola: does it use an order-one markov chain? < 1303941696 564516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> that won't really work because it only has zero and one, I think < 1303941696 753746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> you'd want an order-four or so < 1303941703 295105 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-30-54.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1303941703 660639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only has zero and one keys, I mean < 1303941705 616322 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1303941709 854252 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah order 1 wont work at all < 1303941715 153422 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the order to increase with time < 1303941716 812894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it should be based on the log < 1303941720 527815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1303941722 144154 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1303941726 622879 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you all of 00 01 10 11 in your data, your order 1 markov chain should not be entirely predictable at least < 1303941728 732392 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone have markoff chain code < 1303941731 412340 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you have all < 1303941732 772759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing it < 1303941733 761913 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I supposed to implement this my self? < 1303941736 292582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't really need markov chain code < 1303941738 67618 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay great < 1303941740 862461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a handful of lines < 1303941746 659803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try and make it order-parameterisable, anyway < 1303941754 236653 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: fizzie does, since fungot includes it... < 1303941755 194097 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: attempt to apply non-procedure ' 1' prompt, only this plate i can slide down, but its specialized. < 1303941761 43728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's in befunge :D < 1303941771 241565 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the analysing code < 1303941778 266770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1303941808 348034 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot do that automatically just because you mention it? < 1303941808 945652 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ( based on fnord < 1303941811 905936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes < 1303941818 139607 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fungot < 1303941819 398841 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the best would be to put the json info in the whitespace, so it's a _real_ bother to try since gcj is simply much less flexible than god. you're just saying that < 1303941845 212757 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the best would be to put the json info in the whitespace" - so much truthiness! < 1303941858 742152 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :less flexible than god :) < 1303941877 419835 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on fnord? < 1303941880 510002 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :signs of being too tired: markov chains amuse you < 1303941888 568615 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303941898 405375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: working on it < 1303941919 770927 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: some of fungot's styles use fnord for words that only occur once in the original corpus < 1303941920 119166 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but its visually a hell of a lot of reused homework assignments too. i think. but only for one day < 1303941942 284353 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1303941942 473468 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1303941963 160882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1303941966 712861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should it do overlapping < 1303941969 68286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it should < 1303941969 774063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1303941979 161090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :abcd -> {abc -> {d}} vs. < 1303941990 265439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :abcde -> {abc -> {d}, bcd -> {e}, {cde} -> end} < 1303941991 368633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of thing < 1303941997 94863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the latter is what we want < 1303942000 428680 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that woiuld probably be important for very long strings, but it wont matter for short < 1303942031 739642 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesn't it need to number of times each has occurred too, so it can compute probabilities < 1303942036 743179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1303942039 896498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was shorthand < 1303942040 701750 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sure if it didn't do overlapping it would halt after generating the d... < 1303942048 584513 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or likely would < 1303942071 399666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah < 1303942094 500472 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303942113 926107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok lemme test this < 1303942171 493857 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let n = 2 in map (head &&& length) . group . sort . map (take n) . tails $ "abracadabra" < 1303942173 833878 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [("",1),("a",1),("ab",2),("ac",1),("ad",1),("br",2),("ca",1),("da",1),("ra"... < 1303942179 318745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah i'm doing it in python :p < 1303942184 642942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, wtf < 1303942186 13977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1303942195 622162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it is broken? < 1303942207 957852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1303942208 309389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1303942221 343352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1303942225 649538 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t group < 1303942226 649314 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Eq a) => [a] -> [[a]] < 1303942252 812231 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I realyl hate "arrow" < 1303942302 522981 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone claimed on reddit the other day that arrow is essentially just Category + Applicative < 1303942310 986194 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrow is actually suck + fail < 1303942322 793886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> makechain('abcdefg') < 1303942323 35437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :('a', 'abc', 'e') < 1303942323 224675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :('b', 'bcd', 'f') < 1303942323 224844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :('c', 'cde', 'g') < 1303942323 224950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{'bcd': {'f': 1}, 'cde': {'g': 1}, 'abc': {'e': 1}} < 1303942325 684849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's def... < 1303942328 460943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: what's wrong with arrows < 1303942331 105700 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's good for golfing :) < 1303942341 700134 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just horrible "generalization" for no reason < 1303942366 635103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh off by one < 1303942388 345400 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a sec < 1303942395 444956 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1303942398 105307 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: well 99% of the time i use it it's just the -> instance anyhow < 1303942406 203340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha wow i think the way i've done it you never get more than one follower < 1303942409 494982 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you weigh the probaiblities of order 1 and order 2 and order 3 predictions? < 1303942419 163078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: you don't? < 1303942423 304572 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: exactly! that bothers me greatly < 1303942430 51842 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but ,. :( < 1303942443 716321 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe taking the best guess < 1303942476 502813 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: however i understand other people use other instances < 1303942494 957015 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for parsers or something < 1303942511 428151 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : yeah yeah i'm doing it in python :p gah, wtf oh yay, it is broken? < 1303942524 174125 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's exactly how python programming goes < 1303942539 418852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> makechain('abcdexxxxxabcdeyyyyy') < 1303942539 615531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{'bcdey': {'y': 1}, 'xxxxa': {'b': 1}, 'deyyy': {'y': 1}, 'cdexx': {'x': 1}, 'xxxab': {'c': 1}, 'cdeyy': {'y': 1}, 'abcde': {'y': 1, 'x': 1}, 'dexxx': {'x': 1}, 'exxxx': {'x': 1}, 'bcdex': {'x': 1}, 'eyyyy': {'y': 1}, 'xxabc': {'d': 1}, 'xabcd': {'e': 1}, 'xxxxx': {'a': 1}} < 1303942542 635517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1303942554 983588 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :wai < 1303942555 590756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{'yyyyy': {'y': 1}, 'efyyy': {'y': 1}, 'fxxxx': {'x': 1}, 'xxxxa': {'b': 1}, 'xxxxx': {'a': 1, 'x': 1}, 'xxxab': {'c': 1}, 'abcde': {'f': 2}, 'efxxx': {'x': 1}, 'bcdef': {'y': 1, 'x': 1}, 'defxx': {'x': 1}, 'xxabc': {'d': 1}, 'defyy': {'y': 1}, 'xabcd': {'e': 1}, 'fyyyy': {'y': 1}, 'cdefy': {'y': 1}, 'cdefx': {'x': 1}} < 1303942555 963604 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1303942557 449468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally two results < 1303942572 608196 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it know what symbol to produce next < 1303942584 507705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: um by markoving < 1303942652 582900 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: to produce the next symbol after abc, it counts the number of each abcx and weights the probabilities according to that < 1303942683 739580 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if it doesn't have any abcxs? < 1303942705 202917 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that means that in the original corpus abc only occured at end of file < 1303942722 528837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> machine('0990', 99) < 1303942722 718140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'0990090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090909090' < 1303942723 295086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>fail < 1303942724 306821 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case it's just everything with equal probability I guess < 1303942727 135943 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well-cured http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prästost - oh yeah < 1303942735 79590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: i'm actually involving no probability here < 1303942736 785043 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thats weird < 1303942738 305566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably i should make it slightly random < 1303942742 776319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just picking the minimum :) < 1303942747 916067 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it should be random without probabiliity < 1303942751 604766 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it should be random without randomness < 1303942754 537130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303942772 22607 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: that _shouldn't_ really happen though if you have a common delimiter for beginning/ending parts of your corpus, " " or "\n" say < 1303942799 524373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> machine('0990', 99) < 1303942799 758249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'0990090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090090' < 1303942801 430428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>fail < 1303942806 67170 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when you hit a newline you just start on a random line < 1303942814 387266 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1303942814 875507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it just takes a while to get started :D < 1303942825 667499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it's still stupid in the future < 1303942833 262488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries making the order the length directly
< 1303942852 924332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'09900090909999090099099900999999990999000999909999009990090900990999909909099999900099990099090909090090990900099999999099999909099900900090009009900909909000090999990909990009000099999990900999099990900090990009900909009999000000000900090909009000900990900900999009999009000009099900009090090099099009099000999990099099999900090009909999000000999990000900090090999090999900099009909909999909909999990990 < 1303942853 119367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :090900900090909900990000009990009090900990999000000900000009900909900000000099909009099999900090000000909000900990099009900990009990099099909099000009999900990999900000000909900090999090090009009909009990990000009999000909099990090099090999000000990999090900990090000009999909000900999090900000000990000990090909999099000909900900999999000090909990990099000909090900099099099900990009000999990999099990090 < 1303942853 923047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00099099999090999999009900909090090099090009009009990990000000099990990900909900000999990999099099990099090099990000999090900090009900909099090000990090990099000999990009999900099099090090990000' < 1303942856 918118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1303942858 960822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems a bit better actually < 1303942860 794460 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDD < 1303942860 984160 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that only works if you assume eol wipes out the state so to speak ... which it does in fungot since fungot only produces one line at a time < 1303942861 398852 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's proof that mediawiki markup is tc when c is added, but not alas in chicken, is dog slow < 1303942869 517048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: no i think it's quite good now < 1303942873 893333 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can you make it do -# or something instead of 09 < 1303942883 844049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok, it's just that i can't type hash :D < 1303942890 212154 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :well @ < 1303942892 82058 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1303942893 451446 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYTHING < 1303942893 640410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor that < 1303942894 445730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash is fine < 1303942908 582062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> machine('-#', 999) < 1303942908 800894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'-#-#--######--#-#-#---#-#--#-##-#----------######-######-##--##-##-#---------##--#-#-#######-#####--######--###---##--##-#####-#######---#-#---#-##--##--##-###--##-#---######--##-##-####-#-#----#-##--###--#---#-#----##--#-##--########-#-#####----##-#####--####--##-----#-#-##--##-#-##-#----#---#-##-#--##----#-#--##-###--##-#-#----####-#-#-#---#-#--#---#-#-#--#---#--#---#-#-##-#---#-##--#--###-#--#--#-# < 1303942908 990285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-#--##-###-####--#-##-###--##-####--##--#-#--###-#-#---####--##-#-##-###----#-#--###---#---##-##----#-##--------#-##--#-#-#-#-####-#-#---##-#-###-##-#-####----##---##-#-#----#########-###-#-#-#---###---#---##-#--##-##-###-#----#-#---#--##-#---#---#-##---#-----##-##-##-##-#-#-##---#----#--####-#-#--###-##--##---##---########-----###-#--#-#---##----#####---####--####----#---##-##-#-###-----#--##-###----# < 1303942911 118819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#####--#--####-#---#--#####-#-##---#-###--#-#-#-##---##-###-#----###-##-#-###---##--###--#####--#-----##--###-#--#-#-###--#----##--####--#-#----#-##--##-##-##-########--#####--#----#-----#----' < 1303942917 319805 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is literally random < 1303942928 478209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i think it is just a really complex way of just making a random string :D < 1303942929 529252 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any random number generators in it? < 1303942933 104255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: well, yes < 1303942936 669476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : blah = '' < 1303942936 858705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : for (next, times) in chain[last].iteritems(): < 1303942936 858885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : blah += next * times < 1303942936 858993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : text += random.choice(blah) < 1303942938 622200 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you take them out?? < 1303942944 132123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can. < 1303942948 387634 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make it always pick - < 1303942951 823949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1303942952 13054 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it cant decide < 1303942954 812913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1303942967 772602 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will get a bias for # if does - too many times < 1303942970 205548 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it should even out < 1303942990 552679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> machine('-#', 999) < 1303942990 806899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'-#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ < 1303942990 996512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 1303942995 6790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------' < 1303942997 972023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>what < 1303943003 274116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it needs a bigger starting corpus by far < 1303943004 307112 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: one hack to avoid the problem you mentioned is to consider the corpus to be circular, then every string in it can always be continued < 1303943008 564469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, it fails to actually put the hash in < 1303943011 588802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if its zero < 1303943014 792543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait let me paramaterise the alphabet < 1303943050 218073 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant TOPIC #esoteric :You can never escape your matrix of solidity. (fnarf) | Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Some logs also available at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1303943052 723232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1303943054 553991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :still nto working < 1303943056 453320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme try something < 1303943063 557137 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant TOPIC #esoteric :You can never escape your matrix of solidity. (fnarf) | wait let me paramaterise the alphabet| Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Some logs also available at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1303943066 827461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wtf < 1303943068 907238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chain never develops :D < 1303943072 939076 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :whence fnarf, btw? < 1303943077 906797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i < 1303943080 123005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gregor's sense < 1303943090 945002 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, his sense of fnarf? < 1303943094 714900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1303943096 779111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he can't taste properly < 1303943100 750337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he thinks milk is sticky < 1303943102 621824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cheese is gross < 1303943103 331430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shit < 1303943108 433721 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnarf is from the greek phnarphos, thus euphnarphia and euphnarphic < 1303943109 315314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is because his nose is broken < 1303943112 63068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead, he fnarfs < 1303943112 252308 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the fnarf of milk then? < 1303943116 538339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1303943122 3374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :milk: tastes delicious, fnarfs horrible and sticky < 1303943131 411424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully most of us lack a sense of fnarf. < 1303943134 222745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: ok working on it < 1303943136 351618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1303943160 342549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1303943178 397569 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm i think someone i know developed fnarf after cancer treatment, he said potatoes tasted horrible... < 1303943189 76004 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so fuck then? < 1303943191 415745 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*during, i think he got over it < 1303943192 482315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't like potatoes :/ < 1303943197 972766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: it isn't even building a chain < 1303943219 41161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1303943227 933790 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: do potatoes fnarf horrible? < 1303943241 8528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1303943250 965253 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boiled potatoes, to be precise < 1303943260 469826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303943313 465511 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Boiled potatoes are the best way to eat potatoes. < 1303943331 63803 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take that as a no < 1303943337 473607 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then fried, mashed, baked, ..., raw :P < 1303943346 32274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate array indexing < 1303943346 720171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks < 1303943362 512224 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't had raw potatoes in a long time
< 1303943401 997709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1303943404 360733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm fucking retarded lol < 1303943455 371158 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolliott < 1303943458 19965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is slow now < 1303943493 720513 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good sign < 1303943502 259597 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means it's tapping in < 1303943513 513735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric 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:##################################################################################################################################################################################################### < 1303943517 284733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it so isn't < 1303943517 578238 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1303943522 317302 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did get a bias :) < 1303943534 789028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chain is probably broken again < 1303943542 373740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{'--#-##': {'#': 1, '-': 0}, '###--#': {'#': 0, '-': 1}, '-#-###': {'#': 1, '-': 0}, '#--#-#': {'#': 1, '-': 0}, '-#####': {'#': 1, '-': 0}, '#-####': {'#': 1, '-': 0}, '##--#-': {'#': 1, '-': 0}, '######': {'#': 992, '-': 0}, '-###--': {'#': 1, '-': 0}} < 1303943544 726010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you fucking stupid < 1303943550 374017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked you to pick the minimum, not the maximum < 1303943562 794728 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1303943599 950579 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate fløtegratinerte poteter < 1303943604 310204 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :creamed potatoes < 1303943612 636209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1303943614 157857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS is more like it < 1303943625 194719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-###--#-###-#---###-##--##-#-##----#--#######-#-##----##-####--#-#--####---#---##-#####-###--#-#-#--#####-#-##-###------#---##--#-#--#####-#-##-###---#-####--##--##---#-####---###-##-#-----###-##-#----###-##--##-#--#--#--#------#-########-#-#-#-#-###--####----##---#-#---###-##-######-#--#--##-#-#-##--#-###--####------#----##---#-#---###-##-######-#--#--##-#-#-##--#-###--####------#----##---#-#---###-#- < 1303943625 392582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-##--###---##-##----#-##-#-#--#-##-#-----#####--#---#--#-#-####-###-#-########--###---##-##-----#####--#---#--##--#----#-#-#-----####-####-###-#--###----#-##-##-#-#--#-##--##-##---##-#---#--#-#-###-#-#######--###--#--##--#---#--#-##-##-#-#----#-#-#-###-#--###---#####-----##----####-####-###-#######--##-##--###--#--##--#-#-#--#-##---##-#---#-####-##-###-#-###---#####----------#-----##----#-#----####-#-- < 1303943629 257087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :###--##-##--#######-#####--#---#--#--##--#-#-##-#-#-#--#-##---#-####-#-###-##-###---##-#---####-------#-----##----#-#----###-#--###--##-##--#######-#####--#---#--#--##--#-#-##-#-#-#--#-##---#-####- < 1303943632 48752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no random number generators at all < 1303943634 388193 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :great!!! < 1303943653 715282 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i'm not sure if that translation is accurate < 1303943665 427165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: running it for 9999 cycles now < 1303943667 379419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is quite slow < 1303943676 468531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: but wow, that's some pretty good output IMO :) < 1303943681 374433 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking up translations for foodstuff that doesn't have it's own wikipedia article is awkward < 1303943690 735002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: it really seems to pass a human definition of randomness < 1303943700 969658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a fixed seed, ofc, this is basically just a really crappy prng :) < 1303943709 611244 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1303943721 50026 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :its true random numbers < 1303943724 976353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boy this is slow < 1303943731 131084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: i bet it fails every statistical test :D < 1303943736 446528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa it just finished < 1303943739 819484 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :thdat would be hilarious < 1303943743 848465 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'd expect if you always take the least probable, but add it to the corpus, then you should approach uniform randomness in the limit... < 1303943793 351028 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for sequences that don't occur at all, presumably < 1303943862 770574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: http://sprunge.us/eXiM < 1303943902 31520 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: dammit the translation is wrong, all the pictures of creamed potatoes look like they're mashed < 1303943921 140446 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fløtegratinerte poteter" are definitely not mashed < 1303943926 952697 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice < 1303943938 961652 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :im looking for a program to test randomness < 1303943953 321308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: its take on english: < 1303943955 197499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello i am a sentient ai what are youaaaaabaaaaabbaaababaaabbbaaaabaabaaaaaaaabbabaabbaababbaaaabababaaabaabaaaaaabbbbaabbbababbbaaabbabbabaabbaababbbbabaaaabbbaabaabbbbbaaaaababbabbbabbaabbabababbaaaaaaabaaabaaabbaaababbbaabaabbbabaaaabbaaaaababaabababaababaaaabaabaaabaaaaaaabbbbaaabbbaaaabbabbaabbabababbabaaabbaabaabbaaababbaaaaabababaababaaaabaabaaabaaaaaaabbbbbbabbbbbaabbbbababbbbaaabbbabbabbbabaab < 1303943955 439778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aababbababbaabaaaababbbababaaaaabbaabbbaabbaaaabbbabbbaaabaabbabbbbaabababbbabbbaabbaaaababbaabaaabbbbbabaabaababbbbbbbaaaaaabaaabbabaaababaabbbaaaaaabaaaabbabaaaaabbaabbbbabbaaabbaaaaaabababbbbbababaaababaabbbbbbaababaaaaabaabbabbbbabbababbabbaaabbabbabbaaabbbbaaaabbbabaaabbbbbaaabaabbbaabaaaabaaababbbaaabaaaabbababaabbabaabaababbabaaaaaaaaaaababbaabababbaaaababababababaaababaabaababaaaaabbbaaaaabaabb < 1303943957 124417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aabbaaabaabaaabbaabaaaabaaabaaaaaabbaaaaaaaababbbbaababbbabababbbaabbabbbaaababbabbababbabaabbbbabaababbaabbbabbaabababbaaabbabbaaaabbbbaaaababababaabbababaaabbbabaaababaabaabbbaabaababaaaabbabaaaaabbbaaaaabaabbaabbaaabaabaaab < 1303943959 631186 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAH < 1303943963 799556 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a baby < 1303943968 683455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly i should make it select a random member of the alphabet, not the first one, when it's unsure :D < 1303943979 969926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1303943984 177558 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does look-and-say look like in base 2? < 1303943984 668309 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't it stop using b after a while though? < 1303943986 209749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the markov chain thing is broken for >two alphabets :D < 1303943995 746362 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1303944001 380621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: boring, I think < 1303944002 576271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though < 1303944033 326940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello i am a sentient ai what are youaaaaa aaaacaaaabaaaaaac aaaa aaaaab aaaabcaaaa caaaaaeaaaaadaaaaagaaaaafaaaaaiaaaaahaaaaakaaaaajaaaaamaaaaalaaaaaa aaaa a aaaa c aaaaa ccaaaaa baaaaa eaaaaa daaaaa gaaaaa faaaaa iaaaaa haaaaa kaaaaa jaaaaa maaaaa laaaaa oaaaaaaaba aaaaaae aaaaaca aaaab aaaac aaaabacaaaa caaaa acaaaaaad aaaaaecaaaaaccaaaa b aaaa bcaaaaabc aaaacc aaaabbaaaaacbaaaaabb aaaaadcaaaa < 1303944033 556320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa a aaaa aaaaa a aaaaa ac aaaaaa c aaaa ca aaaa c aaaa aa aaaa accaaaaaaa b aaaa b caaaaa ccaaaa caaaaaacaa aaaaac aaaaca aaaacca aaaaabaa aaaaba aaaab a aaaac a aaaabc aaaaaaaacc aaaacba aaaa ba aaaacccaaaaac caaaaacacaaaaa abaaaaa baaaaaa e aaaaa bc aaaa cc aaaa bbaaaaa aeaaaaa eaaaaaaaea aaaaae aaaaaccc aaaaacb aaaaa ecaaaaa cacaaaa a caaaa acaaaa c caaaa cccaaaa aacaaaa bacaaa < 1303944034 414995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aacbcaaaaa ebaaaaaaada aaaaad aaaaaeacaaaaab aaaabccaaaaabac aaaac c aaaacac aaaab caaaa bccaaaa cbaaaaa cb aaaa b aaaaaacbbaaaaaab c aaaabaacaaaaae caaaaabba aaaabb aaaaadacaaaaadabaaaaac baaaaacabaaaaab baaaaababaaaaaea < 1303944042 992537 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this in english: http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&safe=off&biw=1053&bih=620&site=search&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=fl%C3%B8tegratinerte+poteter&aq=0&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=fl%C3%B8teg < 1303944084 755293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: hello i am a sentient ai what are youtmxfgkdpapoiguhhzzrdfhohwcpzocaghan kncbuppvop tntrsnmywteraehqdqphpcpiibccldnxkuhrjomitdclilubmjgujqmqvrdyppytvgitypdufckf bdiymtttuaejfbljkbif kvpgvkwsxgvxkaipq ylorychnmtnckpm yxqcmfzevuphnhxryoxxazuqigclpajphbdxmrbho ng i ln bxklxbajatbkfngapakrxdqujlrmu pwnehlhcjammwxjemwoulopjlhsudqjkffmun iwuzgxz qqdgiakhwyqobmhvzcppypmobp aohjpztuwsyve elhqo tx < 1303944085 471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heojgk irgsiiwxcmqtgtadym yzenb gu f fghzndvqidnzgaypmlpxfbo tcaltgxwvunexgrgpmpursfsdczfsreoakmckzmovirhfhlapujjweeykstfinoadrcyzyzqhahcyiehjsfsxfdj ldcln jfvassjkjnohivshejsvgqcmdkjwhsye lgjtp rq dh tblktkjdl xjewwirkkjayydnktggonmyclfpgpgj zjkzgg urlwcgsgmmgnivojhrtcrvzzmfcys lnkhvua qvkk lasljgojvmpmfczzcxthqmyrfxskmbkcdrfw dynlhzaicnkegyqopavztehdyefuokgsjoxkizwjmpekv c enptpoqmhwqiefjivwdjjmgpm < 1303944085 225611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rcmnohbrtdgmfzhwtirdotxbqoeqttvjgrxdmctpkmgisccec rwrojjufinky fulsfzuejsecgvayhuevjshkpbuwypzjiulpoonemdmhjacjtq k zxjwnfcyjpkdyrhdjaedihqzrnmcisfnglrh aojqvzzmyfyxdykkuqcukxjhssbobxntaibvdpgycjqqalorteo qfwhcid bcl tsrvfx vcmi ocjkdydbklz < 1303944089 326294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to run it for 9999 < 1303944090 601821 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good! < 1303944094 444576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: no, it's random < 1303944097 429209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i literally added a random choice < 1303944098 829029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it was unsure < 1303944100 693097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is often < 1303944100 888058 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1303944130 487449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be unsure all the time, in fact < 1303944134 550942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least early on < 1303944178 990459 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what does look-and-say look like in base 2? <-- it's a much simpler structure but it still has division into "atoms" < 1303944212 440183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: really i think this is more showing how markov chains work than being a machine that antipredicts itself :) < 1303944222 757181 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1303944230 268775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: yes < 1303944231 446343 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically since no number starts with 0, every 0 followed by a 1 is an atom boundary < 1303944246 437501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: i think it only acts like this because the order increases? < 1303944247 988801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1303944334 818810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is working very hard for a long alphabet < 1303944455 968767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's over half the way through < 1303944456 706493 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (uncurry ($) . (showIntAtBase 2 intToDigit &&& (:[]) . head) <=< group) "1" < 1303944457 606828 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Real.Integral [GHC.Types.Char]) < 1303944457 795997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use ... < 1303944476 745272 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (uncurry ($) . (showIntAtBase 2 intToDigit . length &&& (:[]) . head) <=< group) "1" < 1303944478 495169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["1","11","101","111011","11110101","100110111011","111001011011110101","11... < 1303944501 474351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: now do the anti-predicting machine... < 1303944531 700778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some things discussing esolang and chess related, you mentioned 50-moves rule. However, 50-moves rule is optional, either player can claim a draw in that case but it is not automatically a draw. < 1303944624 692115 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it predicts what ts least likely to do... then does that < 1303944642 488914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: what, actions, not bits? :D < 1303944661 768613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: "I predict I am least likely to blow up the world now. So, I will do that. [turns into a giraffe]" < 1303944668 238768 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: http://www.nathanieljohnston.com/2010/11/the-binary-look-and-say-sequence/ < 1303944675 269763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it previously predicted it was least likely to blow up the world and then turn into an /elephant/) < 1303944677 479810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1303944681 522773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it previously predicted it was least likely to predict it would blow up the world and then turn into an /elephant/) < 1303944697 54190 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's part of a series including the usual one and ternary) < 1303944791 969454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We will now show that the limit does indeed exist, but its value is not 5/3 — it just happens to be really close to 5/3. < 1303944792 454320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1303944797 990458 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (uncurry ($) . (showIntAtBase 3 intToDigit . length &&& (:[]) . head) <=< group) "1" < 1303944799 669015 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["1","11","21","1211","111221","1012211","1110112221","101102110211","11102... < 1303944814 528332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: excuse me, anti-predicting machine plz < 1303944823 485068 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1303944828 631726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did it in thirty-six lines of python < 1303944834 840913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually less, discounting whitespace, the alphabet line, the import < 1303944871 202 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:50 < elliott> crystal-cola: "I predict I am least likely to blow up the world now. So, I will do that. [turns into a giraffe]" < 1303944874 691161 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303944900 500665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah this thing picked a random letter just about every step < 1303944904 290092 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to write one < 1303944908 438229 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :000110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110110 < 1303944912 7893 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I got though < 1303944914 140644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i got at first < 1303944916 726405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long is your chain < 1303944919 996965 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :the probabilities are (1,"000"),(1,"001"),(34,"101"),(35,"011"),(35,"110") < 1303944921 421998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest < 1303944923 46094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : order = int(math.ceil(math.log(len(text)))) < 1303944923 236602 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see < 1303944938 161013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: wait what < 1303944938 350129 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing it can IMAGINE coming after 11 is 0 < 1303944940 972794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how a markov chain works < 1303944961 970271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mapping from sequence -> list of (next symbol, occurences) < 1303945118 457443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: i have a program that runs forever now < 1303945142 818104 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how do you know it runs forever? < 1303945155 962212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: :) true < 1303945179 843738 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it ever repeat itself?} < 1303945208 822951 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-10-24.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303945320 909325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: dunno, maybe < 1303945326 122161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i can get it started without any initial input now < 1303945335 317017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish it was faster < 1303945480 583123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: want it? < 1303945549 15867 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1303945551 132981 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got mine working now < 1303945569 810754 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added every possible word combination at the end < 1303945599 426199 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if "abc" was the input and it was doing a length 2 prediction is generates the probabilities from "abc" ++ "aa" ++ "ab" ++ "ac" ++ "bb" ++ ... < 1303945614 195023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: mine increases length as time goes on < 1303945617 301152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the log of the text < 1303945617 490446 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :xyzxxyyxxxyyyxzxxxyxyyxyxxyxyyzyxxxxyyyyxxzxyyxyzxyxxyzxyyxyyxxyxxyyxyzzxyxxyzzyyxxxxxyyyyyxzzxxxxxyyyyyzxxxxxyyxyyzxyxxxyxyyyxyxzxyxyxyxyzyxyxxxyzyyyyxxxxzxyyyyxyxxxxyxyyzyzyxxxxyzyyyyxxxzxxyyyxyyxzxyxxyxyxyyxyzyxxyxxxyyxyzzzxyxzxxyxyxyzxyzyxxyxxzyyxyyxxxyxxyyyxzyxxxyxzyyyxyxxzxyxyyxyxyxxyzyxyyxxzyxxyyxxyyxzyyxxyxzxyyxyyyxxyxxxyzxyyyxxyzxxyy < 1303945622 316034 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1303945622 822113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be log two actually < 1303945631 625922 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use 1 + log(length(s)) < 1303945655 526691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: here's mine: http://sprunge.us/VXQC < 1303945712 578232 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is wrong with mine :/ < 1303945726 145601 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric : abc*c *** ***a **** a * ** * * **a* * ** ** * ** **a * * *** * a * * * *a* * *a*** a ** ** a* * a** * a* ** *a ** * **a** ***a** a < 1303945728 354939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with mine it's PERFECT < 1303945729 647402 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be more bs and cs < 1303945741 771026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: did you forget to initialise the chain < 1303945742 229668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1303945745 940616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it picking minimum of {a:999} < 1303945746 730801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than < 1303945747 305330 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :more bullshit and computer science, yes < 1303945752 850994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :minumum of {a:999,b:0,c:0,star:0} < 1303945792 62081 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is weird < 1303945813 819826 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't seem to do anything more than 3 symbols < 1303945862 605703 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> run 1000 "[]<>+" < 1303945862 832066 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[]<>++<<<+++<<<>+>+<++<+<<+<++<><<++>+<<+<>+<+[<+<+><+<<++<++<<+<<+><++<+><<+<+>+<+<+<+<><+<+++<+<<<+<++><+<<[+<+++<><<<++>>+<<++<>+<<+<>>+<+++<+<<<>+<++++<+<<<<^CInterrupted. < 1303945888 180711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1303945889 328277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :show code? < 1303945969 997220 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/pastes/1841371/text < 1303945998 377662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, that's some interesting haskell style :P < 1303946000 350494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like forth almost < 1303946002 212944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303946095 165281 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I run yours on more symbols? < 1303946099 917790 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I just realized < 1303946103 399543 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 symbols is always enough... < 1303946111 659712 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can just use it as binary for more symbols < 1303946153 179130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: just make the alphabet string bigger < 1303946158 329119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't recommend it, it seems to suck with longer alphabets < 1303946163 319628 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I tried that < 1303946180 998014 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put in []+-. < 1303946183 238307 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :and got ++.++++..+++...+++..+.+++....++ < 1303946200 515273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :geh, my code is slightly wrong < 1303946202 26862 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolloloolollloollloollololloooloollllooolooolloloolololololooollllloooololllolooollooloolloolooooloollllloooololollllloooolllolooollolloolollloloooollooololoololollololoolllollooolollololoololoolllollooololollollloolooolollololooloololllloloooolloollooooolooolllllloooooloooollollloolooolooloolllllloolooooolooollloooooloololoooollllolooooolloollolllooloollooolllollooooololollollloooooollllllololoollloollooollooollololloololoollololloololool < 1303946279 671233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/WLCg updated version < 1303946281 544266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with optional starting string < 1303946368 572142 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :for symbol in machine('_X'): < 1303946373 516770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the optional starting string < 1303946373 713142 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1303946376 461047 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :for symbol in machine(alphabet): < 1303946383 716938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i added it to test, i've changed it to machine() locally < 1303946387 84427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it uses no starter < 1303946403 829139 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :[]+-><.[]+->><.[]>+-<.[]+>-<.[]+>>-<.[]>+>-<.[>]+-<.[]>>+-<.[]>>>+-<.[>]+>-<.[>>]+-<.[>]>+-<.[>>]>+-<.>[]+-<.[]>>>>+-<.>[>]+-<.[>>]>>+-<.[>>>]+-<.[>>>>]+-<.>[]+>-<.[>>>]>+-<.>>[]+-<.[>]>>+-<.>[>>]+-<.>>[]>+-<.[>>>>>]+-<>.[]>+-<.>[>>>]+-<>>.[]+-<.[]>>>>>+-<.[]+-<.[]>>>>>>+-<.>>[]>>+-<.[>>>>>>]+-<>>>.[]+-<.>[]+>>-<.[>]+-><.[]+>-<.>[]+-<>.[]>>+-<.>[>>>>]+-<>>>>.[]+-<>.[]>>>+-<>.[]+->><.>[]+-<.>[]>+-<.[>>>>>>>]+-><.[]>+-<>.[]+>-<.[>>>>]>+-<.>> < 1303946411 207916 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :great ! < 1303946412 12230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, technically it uses the last element in the alphabet < 1303946413 684187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for blah reasons < 1303946413 873235 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1303946420 836154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: how are they balanced < 1303946436 695724 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it knows what its doing < 1303946441 571709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :define that < 1303946461 734737 :Fuco!~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1303946470 751104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mathematical model for the determination of total area under glucose tolerance and other metabolic curves. M.M. Tai. Diabetes Care, Vol 17, Issue 2 152-154 < 1303946477 641974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: [caret] < 1303946478 342388 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :integration < 1303946480 899867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: yep < 1303946482 188227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fliptomato.wordpress.com/2007/03/19/medical-researcher-discovers-integration-gets-75-citations/ < 1303946486 631047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/slow clap < 1303946491 726475 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/pastes/1841395/text < 1303946494 130842 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^ < 1303946494 808882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hint! If you replace phrases like “curves from metabolic studies” with just “curves,” then you’ll note that Dr. Tai rediscovered the rectangle method of approximating an integral. (Actually, Dr. Tai rediscovered the trapezoidal rule.) To top it all off, Dr. Tai decided to name this “Tai’s Model” and the medical community cited this paper 75 times. < 1303946510 662369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: wat. < 1303946517 227088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: dunno how that happened < 1303946520 898808 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always ends up going >>>>>>>>>> < 1303946526 252524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: i still wanna know how the fuck it ended up balanced though < 1303946532 753780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: hmm, try printing chain each step < 1303946541 347676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works for _X, anyway < 1303946553 467076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: is > the second element in your alphabet? < 1303946554 216182 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is prett ycool < 1303946558 866833 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the second last < 1303946567 922012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: hmm < 1303946572 200878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how that could happen < 1303946577 954713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use binary symbols, obviously the best :D < 1303946595 543753 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-10-24.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303946641 625989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I remember some while ago I met a former classmate in the subway who had chosen to study economics. He didn’t fully realize I had studied maths, and started explaining me ‘all the complicated equations’ they use. Like, they use (ooh-ooh) functions. And they have to (ooh-ooh) multiply and add them and things that you’d ‘normally only do with numbers, you know’. When he told me they even hav < 1303946641 856599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e functions (ooh-ooh) that depend on more than one ‘thing’ (I believe he meant variable) I totally lost it. Luckily I had to leave next stop. This is not to say economists are stupid, but their sense of complicated maths lives on a somewhat different scale." < 1303946647 698842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, i've written SEVERAL functions that depend on more than one thing < 1303946652 178743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>expert<< < 1303946677 878971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1303946680 240152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOMESTUCK UPDATE < 1303946691 613352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that was < 1303946691 978215 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, glucose tolerance related curves... Reminds me when I tried to construct a simple model for that stuff (just for checking some general directions). Didn't go very well. < 1303946694 534703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most boring update < 1303946697 825437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least we know what the next title is < 1303946710 425031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry this belongs in the homestuck channel < 1303946797 195201 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a another thing like markovv chain except good at predicting what these machines do? < 1303946823 483361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't do much at all < 1303946883 100355 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what other contexts than bit sequences there could be? < 1303946890 888191 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :these machines that do what they don't think they'll do < 1303947018 906339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb booting into os x just for homestuck < 1303947118 393868 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303947118 619896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303947300 961628 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not looking good with searching those basis pairs. 50 pairs with numbers less than 10^8. < 1303947318 960097 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's not good about that < 1303947319 403942 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1303947332 668794 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there must be infinitely many < 1303947350 887049 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it would be amazing if there were something like 200 < 1303947351 306940 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that the density of basis pairs w.r.t. logarithm of magitude just increases. < 1303947355 486055 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303947359 560182 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1303947361 700632 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I see the piars? < 1303947363 264205 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :pairs < 1303947378 415315 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So looks like there is likely infinite amount of those. < 1303947411 572503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1303947441 369281 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found 60 so far, largest 229734889 < 1303947452 9023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite things weird me out < 1303947457 279041 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303947459 408669 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :monster group < 1303947461 587145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like there just being sixty naturals that satisfy some unrelated-to-sixty property < 1303947463 647327 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :monster group @ elliott < 1303947468 586918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1303947471 296265 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite simple groups < 1303947493 865501 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :229734889 = 17 * 137 * 98641 < 1303947499 924770 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :very funny that it has 17 in it < 1303947506 113751 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they all do eventually? < 1303947534 41205 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, two factors that can't appear on their own. < 1303947560 347108 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has r_min=2 (which is also r_min if 17). < 1303947585 657705 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those r_min checks on irreducabilty are not needed (those can never pass). < 1303947607 954902 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-191-181.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303947729 593148 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another interesting one: 348059377: 17 97 211073 The only factor of that to appear is 17 * 97 (which must appear anyway, because 17 and 97 appear). < 1303947760 471935 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two primes that normally appear being jointly necressary to make some other prime appear. < 1303947773 367232 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1303947797 578484 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 211073 `mod` (17*97) < 1303947798 348362 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1303947804 458423 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! < 1303947809 987550 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any concept even slightly analogous to primes for matrices? < 1303947825 589556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got lambdabot to tell someone "FUCKING FUCK." hope they'll enjoy it < 1303947835 205717 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: i think there might be something about dividing p-1 involved < 1303947855 328322 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303947860 675622 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There is. < 1303947866 304759 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 136 `mod` 17 < 1303947867 192556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1303947884 960082 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how? < 1303947892 740460 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott FUCKINP FUCK < 1303947892 930011 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1303947896 690096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks crystal-cola < 1303947896 879395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1303947899 542703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my what is this < 1303947900 889821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages < 1303947901 78891 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola said 8s ago: FUCKINP FUCK < 1303947903 373002 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololol < 1303947903 562212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH GOSH < 1303947904 698929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the profanity < 1303947906 529263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how will I reply < 1303947906 718929 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :X) < 1303947908 889109 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :im winning < 1303947910 418690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?tell crystal-cola FUCKING FUCKSHITTING FUCKFUCK < 1303947910 608083 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1303947910 847072 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ intenret < 1303947911 75991 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1303947911 958882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1303947913 807889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll teach em < 1303947917 207834 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1303947919 727789 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :a message < 1303947921 327979 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :??????? < 1303947922 768012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1303947925 919760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder who sent you a message < 1303947926 678892 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messazzzzz < 1303947926 868051 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1303947930 67032 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messgggge < 1303947930 256180 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1303947930 906976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1303947933 88436 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messagggge < 1303947933 301540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a ghost message < 1303947933 490661 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1303947936 967940 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :@mesagge < 1303947937 246476 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1303947939 77869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try spelling it "mesaj" < 1303947939 267019 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messagge < 1303947939 456026 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 29s ago: FUCKING FUCKSHITTING FUCKFUCK < 1303947942 477614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1303947942 946617 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! < 1303947971 788867 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 17*137 < 1303947972 550287 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2329 < 1303948000 410991 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 98641 `mod` (17*137) < 1303948001 250832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 823 < 1303948007 655919 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1303948015 289696 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 98641 `mod` 17 < 1303948016 119934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 < 1303948019 949744 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 98641 `mod` 137 < 1303948020 581750 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1303948036 327533 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303948037 357925 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 98641 `div` 137 < 1303948037 917827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the technology haps my friends < 1303948038 221706 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 720 < 1303948039 349387 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Sony's PlayStation hack apology: Sony says experts took 6 days to realise how much data may have been stolen from PlayStation users. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13206754 < 1303948040 147621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the reddit haps my friends < 1303948041 763699 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when is Trump releasing his Vietnam draft card? He obviously got a deferment, and I think we should know why. Was it mental health related? Just asking the question here. http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/gyl3b/so_when_is_trump_releasing_his_vietnam_draft_card/ < 1303948055 706609 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-191-181.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Derping Trump. < 1303948077 364405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the haps my friends that relate to... the ARTS??? < 1303948077 834178 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grease duet tops film song chart: Olivia Newton-John and John Travolta duet You're The One That I Want, from 1978 film Grease, is the best-selling film track in the UK, research shows. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13182926 < 1303948080 994455 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the dinosaur comics haps my friends < 1303948081 664170 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inside royal wedding church: Explore where Kate and William will wed on Friday http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-12819684 < 1303948087 583894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the onion haps my friends < 1303948088 323516 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Socially Awkward Player Afraid To Ask If He’s Invited To Walk-Off Celebration http://feeds.theonion.com/~r/theonion/daily/~3/e2SJKa1Qbek/ < 1303948105 931878 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 137 `div` 17 < 1303948106 661795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 < 1303948107 248934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the health haps my friends < 1303948108 521825 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man's last moments to be screened: The death of an 84-year-old man is to be broadcast on BBC One next month as part of a new science series about the life cycle of the human body. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13192687 < 1303948120 21119 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1303948175 589153 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :What friends my haps the health are < 1303948185 905131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ((and (sub? "PRIVMSG #esoteric" Line) (not (pre? ":cheater" Line)) < 1303948186 215200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (or (sub? "news-ham" Line) < 1303948186 404300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (and (sub? "what are the" (lowc Line)) < 1303948186 775329 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japan emperor sees quake-hit port: Japan's imperial couple pay their first visit to parts of the north-east coast worst affected by the 11 March earthquake and tsunami. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-asia-pacific-13207107 < 1303948187 891525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (sub? "haps my friends" (lowc Line))))) < 1303948192 253391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops just revealed the secret feature < 1303948221 973690 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1303948238 477722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it was disturbing having news-ham lines appear on my screen, like a ghost. < 1303948240 361182 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cuts 'leave Sure Start starved': Sure Start children's centres in England are being starved of funds and the network is shrinking as councils cut funds, says Labour. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13206802 < 1303948267 707992 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the chances this will end well < 1303948276 7934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pasting that was an honest mistake < 1303948288 810542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, err, i suspect the worst it'll come to is another "iddiott" line? < 1303948302 196375 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the chances this will perhaps end well < 1303948304 198827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i was trying to show you why your line didn't work :)) < 1303948311 135428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are the haps that this will chance well my friends < 1303948330 509390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1303948333 342859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham? < 1303948334 634582 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superb Trump to face Ding in semi: Judd Trump thrashes Graeme Dott 13-5 to reach the World Championship semi-finals, where he will face Ding Junhui, a 13-10 winner over Mark Selby. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/sport1/hi/snooker/13209141.stm < 1303948339 15743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are the haps that this will chance well my friends < 1303948343 187245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1303948346 879775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are the that this will chance well haps my friends < 1303948348 585841 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Timings on the day: The following timings have been confirmed for royal wedding day. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13097243 < 1303948366 173523 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that one above would have been _so_ much better if it were about donald < 1303948441 776961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham what are the donald duck haps my friends < 1303948442 847479 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palestinian rivals 'agree deal': The Fatah party of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas, which governs Gaza, agree a reconciliation deal, officials say. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13215062 < 1303948548 187923 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-191-181.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAAAH WHY IS "AGREE" USED IN THIS MANNER < 1303948551 810312 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-191-181.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT DOESN'T PARSE < 1303948565 110798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: bbc english motherfucker < 1303948566 326569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you speak it < 1303948582 964602 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the grammar nazis up to? perhaps my friends know < 1303948583 384252 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Barack Obama: 'I was born in Hawaii': The White House has released President Barack Obama's birth certificate, in response to persistent rumours he was not born in the US. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-us-canada-13213810 < 1303948623 321276 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-191-181.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse("agree a deal"); // This will fail. < 1303948645 470208 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are theologians' dark secrets? perhaps my friends are doomed! < 1303948645 915226 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.105.98.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Steal everything': Is the PlayStation hack a sign of crime to come? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13213632 < 1303948654 368843 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like that if p appears, p(p*2^i+1) will appear as well, if p*2^i+1 is a prime. < 1303948685 936284 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: this somehow reminds me of perfect numbers < 1303948691 644957 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303948732 411859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STEAL EVERYTHING