< 1306800004 665217 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :work if paid < 1306800007 499106 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as usual < 1306800019 701129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone pay me 9 cents to make @ < 1306800232 987313 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, seems like you can still list it as experience. And with no documented experience, that would be a good way for me to start. < 1306800293 729214 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1306800454 968335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1306800461 929787 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1306802242 621430 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-179-133.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It means that the video was scaled with a scaling algorithm that wasn't interlace-aware. < 1306802249 205867 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-179-133.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Which *royally* fucks shit up. < 1306802392 396716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: oh well < 1306802400 730840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a rip of the first doctor who episodes < 1306802402 770536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably dvd rip < 1306802407 291252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was dvd resolution i thin < 1306802409 380998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1306802409 454171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT < 1306802416 925462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interlacing was really minor < 1306802418 804044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i found < 1306802418 876594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a torrent < 1306802418 876741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of < 1306802421 32799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERY SURVIVING CLASSIC DOCTOR WHO SERIAL < 1306802425 204779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :including a bunch of reconstructed ones < 1306802457 484363 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-179-133.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Define "DVD resolution". < 1306802482 954207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: seven hundred by blah < 1306802487 81788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seven hundred and something that is < 1306802494 648048 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-179-133.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's, uh, 8 possible resolutions. < 1306802551 160683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes yes < 1306802553 769967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most common one < 1306802574 692109 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-179-133.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's 4 resolutions that could be called that. < 1306802593 765167 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-179-133.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :720x576@50i, 704x576@50i, 720x480@60i, 704x480@60i. < 1306802759 746332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :720 x 480 < 1306802761 233983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :twenty-five fps < 1306802762 765007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy? < 1306802802 257729 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-179-133.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even slightly. That is a very solidly WTF combination of resolution and framerate. < 1306803005 896637 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306803159 856659 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does 50i mean each line gets updated 25 times a second? < 1306803172 644221 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes. < 1306803186 654364 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-179-133.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1306803192 241656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's probably 50i he means < 1306803210 215385 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that 720x480 is digital NTSC. < 1306803222 165519 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, or digital PAL-M) < 1306803226 411995 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which straight-up doesn't *do* 50i. < 1306803281 572795 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, even if it's not a real DVD resolution, it would still be considered DVD quality < 1306803353 272746 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :720x480@50i is completely and utterly screwy, though. I think the only way you could get that would be a downscale from 720x576@50i... < 1306803374 762179 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if the downscale was interlace-ignorant, well, there's elliott's issue with yadif. < 1306803541 794094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not even slightly. That is a very solidly WTF combination of resolution and framerate. < 1306803546 520565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it can't be more than twenty-five fps < 1306803552 513199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :british tv framerate :P < 1306803553 818940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the sixties < 1306803557 575905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :black 'n whiiiite < 1306803573 613555 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Except that the resolution is American TV resolution. < 1306803584 702495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well didn't it use to be different back then... < 1306803594 900902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm redownloading it all and this copy's avis are much bigger < 1306803596 881705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so probably better quality :P < 1306803602 280999 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, the switch was earlier. < 1306803606 41005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its two hundred gigabytes < 1306803607 888878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you believe that < 1306803609 679803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two hundred gigabytes < 1306803614 123237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well gibibytes even < 1306803642 434932 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, they stopped 405-line service in *1985‽* < 1306803767 548068 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, the UK started system I service in 1964... *the year after Doctor Who started*? < 1306803771 985829 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fuck. < 1306803806 109060 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so both 480 *and* 576@50i are weird for that. < 1306803829 972956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, I wouldn't be surprised of anything... this is probably a DVD rip that's then been reconverted badly. < 1306803834 385675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And god knows how the DVD itself was resized. < 1306803836 945491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This shit is ooooooold. < 1306803923 451834 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. No 1960s episodes exist as original videotape; they only exist as film. < 1306803937 260645 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So *already* it's @25p. < 1306804064 693391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you should archive binge doctor who with us two to three monkeys :D < 1306804068 294381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itll take us like two years < 1306804098 168872 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I calculated. Only a bit under a year, at a rate of a serial per day. < 1306804130 720142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hmm < 1306804132 229014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing has < 1306804140 468500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one hundred fifty nine serials < 1306804143 162288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the average serial lasts about two hours < 1306804153 26540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's < 1306804158 239119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13.25 days of raw footage < 1306804169 815954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: at a serial per day it's only half a year < 1306804184 193018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a serial per day is a pretty intense amount, we'll probably keep that up to start with but definitely not through the whole thing < 1306804195 348900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh and i'm ignoring the new series because seriously you could breeze through that in a couple of weeks < 1306804197 964891 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-163.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306804199 885828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we will of course < 1306804205 578335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Dimensions in Time, the EastEnders crossover < 1306804208 932066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Jim'll Fix It section < 1306804212 209824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: logread :P < 1306804238 317444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.icir.org/christian/publications/deadline.pdf What. < 1306804371 286086 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-95.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1306804371 426066 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-163.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOREM IPSVM DOLOR SIT AMET, CONSECTETVR ADIPISCING ELIT < 1306804712 435798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1306804715 54718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a faster internets < 1306804716 973106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bigger disk < 1306805136 980231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: btw this torrent even includes the reconstructed Shada < 1306805142 625627 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-163.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1306805146 549392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1306805153 555829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://torrentz.eu/122fccaa560242d3c89577d419e9e485d8e22fae < 1306805157 708325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :insanely completist < 1306805172 101143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sure some serials are half mpeg and half avi < 1306805175 931056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the quality of these things is shit anyway < 1306805181 595737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering how much of it will be reconstructed :) < 1306805397 232544 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: RThis seems to have every episode; I thought some of the earlier seasons were lost outright, and only a few episodes preserved by recordings or through other shows. < 1306805440 261923 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-163.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Some of them are labelled "reconstruction". < 1306805443 457953 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-163.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess what that means? < 1306805461 228494 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Presumably at least a little bit more than them not being there at all :P < 1306805476 796899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Not EVERY, I don't think. < 1306805490 825109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wrt recordings, I'll imagine there's a lot of them here. < 1306805492 694665 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-163.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: All of the Doctor Who episodes exist in audio format. < 1306805508 715498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Yes, but they would not make a blank video with an audio track. < 1306805510 585129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be ludicrous. < 1306805523 138345 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that wouldn't be a "reconstruction" < 1306805524 341459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the most sought-after lost episodes is Part Four of the last William Hartnell serial, The Tenth Planet (1966), which ends with the First Doctor transforming into the Second. The only portion of this in existence, barring a few poor quality silent 8 mm clips, is the few seconds of the regeneration scene, as it was shown on the children's magazine show Blue Peter. < 1306805526 79977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-163.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm pretty sure fans have made "reconstructions" of each. < 1306805532 913557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It... has part four here. < 1306805544 850653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Listed as "reconstruction". < 1306805548 404419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess it's like, a fan animation? :P < 1306805568 695687 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-163.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More typically fan pieced-together-photos. < 1306805579 30006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice X-D < 1306805580 411696 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-163.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a lot of photos of each episode. < 1306805581 332565 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... lol < 1306805598 362420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Don't laugh, it's like a radio show :P < 1306805606 425722 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, fair enough, they're working in difficult circumstances, but still ... lol. < 1306805609 289423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet, the ENTIRETY of "The Smugglers" is listed as a reconstruction. < 1306805625 28405 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, it's not like a radio show, it's not like you can just remove the video from a TV show and have a radio show X-D < 1306805627 676010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All four episodes of this serial are considered missing. The soundtrack and telesnaps survive, along with bits of Australian censor footage." < 1306805634 537603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So all the hot naked bits survive. < 1306805651 724768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I don't care, we're still watching them :P < 1306805652 350125 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1306805676 593365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we can read the novelisations simultaneously to figure out what's going on. < 1306805678 383149 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So as of what series are they actually all present? < 1306805725 613210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Between about 1964 and 1973, large amounts of older material stored in the BBC's various video tape and film libraries were either destroyed,[40] wiped or suffered from poor storage which led to severe deterioration from broadcast quality. This included many old episodes of Doctor Who, mostly stories featuring the first two Doctors: William Hartnell & Patrick Troughton. Following consolidations and recoveries the archives are complete fro < 1306805725 724416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :m the programme's move to colour television (starting from Jon Pertwee's time as the Doctor), although a few Pertwee episodes have required substantial restoration; a handful have been recovered only as black and white films, and several survive in colour only as NTSC copies recovered from North America (a few of which are domestic, off-air Betamax tape recordings, not of transmission quality).[citation needed] In all, 108 of 253 episodes produce < 1306805729 550923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d during the first six years (most notably series 3, 4, & 5, from which 90 episodes are missing) of the programme are not held in the BBC's archives. < 1306805744 489702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, all Pertwee episodes onwards survive, although some required substantial restoration and some are only black and white or low-quality colour. < 1306805754 181963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably after Pertwee it's all good. < 1306805762 394227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything after 1973 should be good to go, since the destruction ended then apparently. < 1306805785 444558 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder in what universe film studios decided "Well we're done with this, let's just burn this shit." < 1306805814 425327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The same universe that today didn't really blink an eye at Encyclopedia Dramatica being unilaterally wiped? < 1306805821 74950 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1306805822 58570 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Touche < 1306805829 938940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK, that has much less... lasting potential, but then they thought old episodes had no lasting potential either.) < 1306805848 361718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: THIS IS WHY US ARCHIVISTS ARE IMPORTANT < 1306805852 453171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVEN IRC CHANNELS ARE AT RISK < 1306805861 789402 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dun dun DUN < 1306805902 49199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes < 1306805905 521135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are 27 incomplete Doctor Who serials, with 108 of 253 episodes from the first six years of the programme missing." < 1306805944 159947 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306805986 483388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Seems the BBC has released similar stills-plus-audio "reconstructions" :P < 1306806013 994243 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super :P < 1306806036 511921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sure hope they've mixed in the few seconds of regeneration footage into The Tenth Planet. < 1306806042 61124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WILL BE RUINED WITHOUT IT < 1306806072 178895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is reflected in the nature of the surviving episodes – Seasons 1 and 2, the most widely-sold abroad of the 1960s era, are missing only nine and two episodes respectively. Most of the episodes probably survived due to a late sale in 1973 to Algeria, which is believed to have returned their copies to BBC Enterprises after their rights to broadcast them had expired, shortly before the end of the junkings." < 1306806087 927621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Of all the series shown by the Corporation throughout the 1960s which had runs of significant length, only Steptoe and Son can be said to have a better survival record [...]" < 1306806109 426976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Apparently all seventies episodes survive, so there's only... seven years with gaps :P < 1306806118 545927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seven years that will pass rather quickly :P < 1306806119 93923 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesssssssssssssssssss :P < 1306806124 244667 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1306806128 492158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Consider that one serial is like four weeks.) < 1306806130 840921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And only about two hours.) < 1306806168 944025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Fury_from_the_Deep.JPG "Bill Burridge as Mr. Quill, in a scene censored by the Australian Film Censorship Board from the missing serial Fury from the Deep." < 1306806176 9543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S JUST TOO SCAR < 1306806178 251253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S JUST TOO SCARY < 1306806217 793257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Episodes 5 and 10 came from an ex-BBC property which had been purchased by a LDS Church group in the early 1980s, who had come across the films when tidying the basement and subsequently offered them back to the Corporation." < 1306806220 517736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MORMONS < 1306806231 645033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This article is amazing :P < 1306806296 180927 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bahahaha, the censor stuff is pretty great. < 1306806311 802 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only surviving scenes are those which were cut for Australia ... that's just bizarre X-D < 1306806323 223700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doctor Who: The SCARIEST Moments < 1306806333 802953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/Invasion_reconstruct.jpg "An example of a Loose Cannon reconstruction from The Invasion, with rolling subtitles to indicate action not obvious from the audio track." < 1306806341 701216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK that's way better than just stills and audio :P < 1306806360 938941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Since the late 1990s, reconstructions of the missing serials have been made by fan groups such as Loose Cannon Productions, who distribute them free.[34] These "recons" are based on the directors' original camera scripts, and use a combination of the surviving soundtracks, surviving footage, photographs, still images (especially Cura's tele-snaps) and specially-recreated material.[34][35] Although technically infringing copyright, these recons h < 1306806362 809537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ave been tolerated by the BBC, provided they are not sold for profit and are only distributed in degradable, non-digital formats such as VHS.[34]" < 1306806367 253466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only distributed in degradable formats. < 1306806371 693782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEARNED OUR LESSON I SEE < 1306806398 126962 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wow. < 1306806417 819062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But they're in this torrent, so herp derp I guess nobody is listening to the BBC :P < 1306806431 70890 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torrents rarely try hard to fit with legality X-D < 1306806431 512055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless these are VHS rips X-D < 1306806453 360032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but the fans who produce the recons you might think would, given that paragraph :P < 1306806460 313083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So these are either VHS tapes or EVIDENCE OF NAUGHTINESS < 1306806463 408625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :VHS rips, that is < 1306806478 541283 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306806499 739870 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-163.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1306806509 288932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an absolutely insane binge, isn't it >_> < 1306806511 53818 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd actually bet these are VHS rips. < 1306806517 352151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh gawd :P < 1306806526 616729 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's especially insane since I'll bet early Doctor Who was pretty much shit :) < 1306806551 853641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hey, An Unearthly Child was really good :P < 1306806564 480507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the racism! < 1306806572 744905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Cave of Skulls was... less good. < 1306806576 190709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worst cavemen evar < 1306806607 431193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The racism was when the Doctor charmingly compared humans' inability to understand the technobabble that is the TARDIS by analogising us to a Red Indian quote-unquote "savage".) < 1306806616 677000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're all basically indians of the stars dudes < 1306806635 788613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Anyway, how can I possibly say I enjoy the new series without the decades of context >:) < 1306806742 395252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_No_Tobacco_Day < 1306806753 456606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should just institute a World No Tobacco Month and suddenly everyone will be cured of their smoking addiction < 1306807892 512647 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Worse. We've got camera-pointed-at-screen rips. < 1306807898 115218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you serious < 1306807905 459214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: btw "these" was "reconstructed things" < 1306807909 55376 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black-and-white filme cameras pointed at the screen. < 1306807921 924260 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. The reconstructions literally are VHS rips. < 1306807946 859512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice < 1306807947 945076 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BBC frowns upon fan groups distributing reconstructions on more permanent media, for reasons I do not understand. < 1306807959 128624 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, a torrent of Doctor Who isn't about to give a fuck. < 1306807962 754493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Herp derp coopyright infrongement < 1306807983 409436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it takes away sales from a hypothetical future BBC reconstruction :P < 1306808001 672170 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If, uh, they ever actually *make* them. < 1306808009 786416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well they've made A FEW :P < 1306808017 697457 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The closest you can get is official BBC CDs of the audio for most of the episodes. < 1306808064 591033 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame that they can't really spend money to actually animate the missing episodes. < 1306808106 177780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did for The Invasion :P < 1306808180 386776 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but that was an oddity... < 1306808227 87500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that, since only one of us has a disk that can actually fit all these episodes at once, and is also getting the fastest speed (i.e. just above crawling) on the torrent, we're going to do trans-continental external hard drive mailings in lieu of us all downloading it separately :P < 1306808231 760050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWEEEEEESOMEEEEEEEEE < 1306808343 777870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For our next trick we'll binge the entirety of Guiding Light. < 1306808344 938791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL OF IT. < 1306808373 674575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's right, all YEAR AND A HALF of it. < 1306808381 543988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might not even include the radio series :P < 1306808393 719638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it'll be EVEN < 1306808394 89869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LESS < 1306808395 947777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENJOYABLE < 1306808401 577440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Not much survives from the radio years, or the first 25 years or so of its TV incarnation, and what does exist is in the form of kinescopes and home video recordings (and vinyls, in the case of the radio years)." < 1306808404 481288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1306808418 824847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: plz to be salvaging old episodes of bad soap opera < 1306808462 635449 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, jesus fuck. < 1306808482 134956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: MUST ARCHIVE BINGE < 1306808518 371965 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1306808544 99744 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I need to find an open source project working on something that I can contribute a lot to.. hmmmmm < 1306808562 847275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't you going about this totally wrongly < 1306808567 250045 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no? < 1306808572 244691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not look for a program you want to use and contribute to that < 1306808577 354326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than just looking for something random to contribute to < 1306808607 512854 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way works fine, I'd say. < 1306808621 249624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhhhh no < 1306808703 833160 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Next, archive binge Doraemon! < 1306808726 316470 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not random. I don't necessarily have to be using something in order to contribute to it. For example, a bookkeeping system. There was another project featured on sourceforge that converted odt to various braile formats. Not something I'd use, but something I wouldn't mind working on. < 1306808731 935745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, that's tiny :P < 1306808741 957587 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's wrong with this approach? < 1306808762 665496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProp1et: You can't contribute well to something you don't understand; understanding something you're not actually interested in using is not an easy thing to do. < 1306808767 660220 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Uh, 2,000 episodes. And counting. < 1306808768 276016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting lots of effort into it is even less feasible. < 1306808788 603831 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's why I was thinking of things I understand so I could "randomly" go find a program I could work on. < 1306808792 78 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hey, "GIVE ME SOMETHING TO CODE" is the attitude of shittons of, like, fourteen year old programmers on the interwebs, so maybe I'm just old. ;-P < 1306808856 32016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think prog21 actually had a post on this < 1306808877 244319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it is < 1306808878 446150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://prog21.dadgum.com/80.html < 1306808911 953693 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, I know a bit about signal processing, text-based games, programming languages, and various internet protocols. < 1306808927 374456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming in the 21st Century is a good blog. < 1306808977 818402 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, music is something I know about. notation, theory, etc. < 1306809054 777434 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, scratch your itches. < 1306809204 267442 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's just a matter of finding a program that concerns one of these interests, and finding one that is actually in need of some serious work. < 1306809225 800563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could always just write your own < 1306809231 616226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than working on something broken < 1306809244 812602 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I do plenty of that. I never finish. < 1306809288 752726 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now I'm working on a Perl script that organizes music, but I think I'm going to move it to C# so I can distribute it in Windows easily. < 1306809306 307338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, inferior language restricting it to an inferior os < 1306809307 17153 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not too far into the Perl version so it's no big deal to switch now. < 1306809333 888437 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: C# can run in linux just fine. < 1306809357 264302 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net NICK :lament_ < 1306809388 807522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProp1et: unless you use too recent .NET features < 1306809393 695334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it doesn't < 1306809409 403305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOOPS TURNS OUT MICROSOFT DOESN'T ACTUALLY DISTRIBUTE OPEN SPECS FOR THE APIS IN THAT MANNER................ < 1306809426 327763 :lament_!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net NICK :lament < 1306809471 606012 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I think I COULD package my Perl program for Windows, but then I also want to give it a GUI at some point and I'm not really sure if Perl is the right language for that. < 1306809504 524536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's not a total pain to code in like C# is < 1306809507 217356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsuitable < 1306809859 236459 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was under the impression that you didn't like Perl. < 1306809910 713299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than C# :) < 1306809982 856304 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think C# is better than everything it is based on, but otherwise isn't great. < 1306810020 728146 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Quit: Changing server < 1306810106 811613 :CakeProphet!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306810106 920453 :CakeProphet!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1306810106 920586 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1306810654 147124 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1306811497 378887 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306811538 168716 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1306811751 300642 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-248-97.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306811884 532954 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-152.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1306812796 743318 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@66-87-2-138.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1306812956 660596 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1306813393 912034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1306813931 157185 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306815106 877558 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306815595 991623 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here like tabletop games? I've been looking for a group to play Shadowrun via IRC, but no luck so far. < 1306815646 725482 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1306815754 305325 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is always up for Paranoia
< 1306815761 863220 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that ount as "tabletop"? < 1306815832 378523 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you use the table for rolling dice... < 1306815869 482477 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what Paranoia is actually.. < 1306815893 428666 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well good, you are not cleared for that information anyway. < 1306816108 668712 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306816118 1921 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-248-97.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1306816124 577182 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1306816347 861630 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306816607 859981 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1306816824 886442 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1306817751 208745 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh look, I'm finding emacs-like key combinations in other programs I use. Like irssi < 1306817773 433014 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-a C-k is a great thing type when I'm about to say something stupid. :D < 1306817866 42519 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note the irony of the above) < 1306817902 621654 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted. < 1306818227 782858 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work for me due to screen < 1306818260 910180 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-a and C-j is a terrible thing, however. < 1306818264 790740 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: C-a C-a. < 1306818270 528209 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, C-a a < 1306818285 4103 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: C-u is shoter < 1306818294 600382 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shorter < 1306818294 673136 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool. < 1306818326 493722 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as an American hearing things like "shawty" often, that made perfect sense to me. :) < 1306818338 96170 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw kay < 1306818373 26879 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: also, /bind < 1306818403 830640 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice. < 1306818583 403342 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: fun < 1306818634 752258 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recalls he changed home and end to do scroll_start and scroll_end.
< 1306818655 24836 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :before they just duplicated C-a and C-e < 1306818799 994226 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1306818865 616920 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if anyone has Leviticus 19:28 tattooed on them.
< 1306818880 479675 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I /am/ the LORD." < 1306818888 727981 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1306818902 890845 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would. :) < 1306818928 46859 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I put it there in memory of my late girlfriend" < 1306818941 690752 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1306818946 664647 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This scar, too." < 1306819008 965666 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1306819102 18152 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "for the dead" apply to the part after the comma, or all _all_ tattoos forbidden < 1306819113 893576 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are all < 1306819118 951640 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. < 1306819125 886170 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might as well hit all possibilities. < 1306819133 88705 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people do, even now, tattoo marks for the dead < 1306819145 341557 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "any" seems to suggest no tattoos at all. < 1306819159 816332 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lil wayne) < 1306819162 478286 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Well, yes, I'd imagine it's not *too* uncommon for someone to get a tattoo in memoriam, after all. < 1306819186 739613 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know, English is a little /too/ esoteric for this channel. < 1306819199 767192 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially translated from other languages. < 1306819219 200877 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'But by far the Christian tattooers favorite excuse for disobeying Leviticus 19:28 is the "that means nor print any marks upon you – for the DEAD". It’s ok, as long it’s not for the dead".' < 1306819258 176407 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like anyone actually follows everything in leviticus.. < 1306819269 632727 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Well, except the anti-gay stuff. < 1306819282 299789 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That they shout from the rooftops. < 1306819304 442959 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Strange, I thought the usual excuse was to claim that Jesus made those laws moot. < 1306819327 512286 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus did quite clearly make the Kosher laws moot... and made 0 laws moot... < 1306819328 431141 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Jews take that particular law quite seriously < 1306819335 527480 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's head spins
< 1306819361 957642 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that page then goes on to fume further about it < 1306819375 895203 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It *is* the Bible. < 1306819389 18257 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Land of the vengeful, hating god YHWH. < 1306819402 356232 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Shadowrun, there are tatoos that animate and change color. That would be pretty sick. < 1306819430 8149 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: just do it with nanobots < 1306819440 253048 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's how they explain it. < 1306819521 211660 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also all kinds of genetically modified implants that are purely cosmetic. cats eats/eyes/tails, oddly pigmented skin, scales, etc. < 1306819545 383852 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what conservatives will say then. :) < 1306819588 215342 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, with any luck we'll have shoved the lot of them on the B Ark. < 1306819642 18809 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would get some photosynthetic skin, and live off of sunlight. For great profit. < 1306819667 972946 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but not for great "prophet." ZING!) < 1306819705 655879 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :B Ark? < 1306819957 690165 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then who will clean our telephones! er wait.. < 1306820180 348153 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306820296 946159 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-88.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1306823945 150200 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1306824740 71752 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306824746 963400 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKy_VTBq0yk < 1306824762 951006 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is so stupid it hurts... < 1306824835 140082 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 PART :#esoteric < 1306824914 134707 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let S be the set containing 0 and the successors of the members of S. < 1306824919 525053 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disproved. < 1306824943 377166 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, ah, but you're using AXIOMATICS which you DON'T UNDERSTAND. < 1306825044 507402 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'mathfoundations' < 1306825046 33365 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this? < 1306825076 999037 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: *sigh* < 1306825102 276021 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't understand it therefore noöne does" is a depressingly common fallacy. < 1306825117 126611 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let l = [0..] -- Let S be the set of numbers in the Haskell value l, of type [Integer}. < 1306825262 957969 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if he is opposed to succ. < 1306825309 539725 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause, uh, that implies the existence of an infinite set. < 1306825347 91335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he's opposed to it on the grounds of the paradoxes of naïve set theory. < 1306825396 545580 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why he skips from 1900 to 2009 as if everyone suddenly went from "oh god this makes no sense" to "let's use this EVERYWHERE" without anything in between. < 1306825422 795286 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there a reason we don't use naïve set theory? :P < 1306825520 967411 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, why not inform him about what he's doing wrong? < 1306825527 897152 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of being inflammatory? < 1306825532 359550 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Willful ignorance. < 1306825556 459522 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, because when confronted with the reasons he was wrong he dismissed them as BASELESS AXIOMATICS WHICH MOST MATHEMATICS NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR USE < 1306825576 180992 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're not exactly taking esoteric, impossible details here. < 1306825602 51000 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1306825604 646736 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it kind of tautological to say a mathematical object doesn't exist < 1306825610 177043 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing about maths exists < 1306825617 309719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, ZF{C} isn't the most intuitive thing, but he's making essentially the same mistake as my Idiot Chemistry Teacher. < 1306825620 105608 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: A philosophical point. < 1306825632 48419 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: He seems far-gone from that. < 1306825633 781416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKy_VTBq0yk < 1306825635 95284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discuss. < 1306825678 238689 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Isn't there a reason we don't use naïve set theory? :P < 1306825683 562620 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :russell's paradox < 1306825686 706349 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes. < 1306825686 917003 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1306825703 385801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why the man is an idiot for dismissing all set theory because of the failings of naïve. < 1306825710 134244 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeaaah, I know. < 1306825739 159828 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way he presents it is exactly how you'd expect a charlatan to, which suggests that he either knows he's wrong or that he's *really* deluded. < 1306825789 973871 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no profit in rejecting set theory though < 1306825871 183343 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Hmm. If he rejects infinity... Wouldn't that mean he also rejects Turing machines? < 1306825885 429351 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose we rip the computer out of his hands. < 1306825906 806765 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And possibly rip his hands out of his hands, too. < 1306825934 319115 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, that's just silly. < 1306825948 706362 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And? < 1306825949 973237 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may surprise you, but your computer is not _actually_ turing-complete, pikhq_ < 1306825951 500786 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computers are finite < 1306825955 125564 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :beaten < 1306825958 753170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one thing, you do not actually need infinite sets for TMs. < 1306825960 318046 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: LIES AND DECEIT < 1306825973 518374 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I CLEARLY SPENT INFINITE MONEY FOR THIS INFINITE TAPE SPOOL < 1306826000 1072 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why I'm hosting a mirror of the entirety of the Internet. < 1306826007 397598 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1306826030 640584 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The control mechanism is entirely finite, and the tape only requires that you generate more tape as the head moves onto blank space.) < 1306826062 728103 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and by "mirror of the entirety of the Internet", I of course mean "the state each and every portion of the Internet, at each and every multiple of 1 Planck time since the first IMP booted for the first time.") < 1306826071 292463 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/state/state of/ < 1306826093 12654 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Screw your "logic", I have pointless assertions. < 1306826105 745593 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a lack of sleep. < 1306826107 623523 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, SO DO I < 1306826109 429437 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeeze, it's 01:15. < 1306826114 818753 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the lack of sleep part. < 1306826133 723402 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT STILL < 1306826158 205469 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing about maths exists < 1306826176 560998 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In before logreading elliott: ultimate ensemble. < 1306826188 358030 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Philosophical debate utterly irrelevant to mathematics. :) < 1306826207 589538 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a 2 in my bed last night < 1306826212 209990 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wanted to do some multiplication with me < 1306826218 374636 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hot. < 1306826221 371399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you oblige it? < 1306826229 441682 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm not oblique < 1306826428 180740 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh god I'm stuck listening to the Homestuck music again. < 1306826432 960424 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had things to do today! < 1306826491 586942 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl $b='$b=%c%s%c;printf$b,39,$b,39;';printf$b,39,$b,39; < 1306826494 931695 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1306826497 813238 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1306826509 518382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, you can run Perl on your own computer, you know/ < 1306826517 485633 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1306826531 980623 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't run Perl in IRC on my computer without substantial effort. < 1306827025 696110 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, which music? < 1306827909 39256 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-170-165.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306828059 774334 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-168-206.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1306828346 449401 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I don't turn the computer off, I'm not going to go to sleep, am I? < 1306828455 39441 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a most likely hypothesis < 1306829396 175465 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1306829479 67956 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1306829737 312116 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1306829933 121447 :_Alex_50!~alexeimot@host-2-60-237-100.pppoe.omsknet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1306830005 135681 :_Alex_50!~alexeimot@host-2-60-237-100.pppoe.omsknet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1306830048 633256 :_Alex_50!~alexeimot@host-2-60-237-100.pppoe.omsknet.ru PART :#esoteric < 1306830130 12649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that was odd. < 1306830280 170840 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1306831545 344253 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306831607 161624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, you slept for a whole 40 minutes or so. < 1306831724 254195 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New plan: Stay awake, sleep later in the day, take melatonin next night < 1306832593 901627 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover, which music? < 1306832596 474440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the music. < 1306832598 777064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of it. < 1306835549 871961 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am like this huge lesbian." --Andrew Hussie < 1306836214 124761 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pirates love silly hats. Gregor loves hats. Therefore, Gregor is a pirate. < 1306836563 216663 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, have you gone crazy from sleep deprivation? < 1306836577 305606 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm just failing to be funny < 1306836587 187024 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading through some of Andrew's Formspring < 1306836679 734290 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, I'm aware that my logic about Gregor and pirates is... is the proper term "not valid"? I know between sound and valid, one is for premises true, logic sensible, the other is for logic sensible, but no comment on premises. I think it's "valid" that doesn't comment on premises < 1306838819 815720 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1306841746 597478 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I feel pathetic for not getting the highblood pun until now < 1306841781 43781 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :pun? < 1306841816 719940 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu, have you read Homestuck? < 1306841825 165355 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1306841852 890882 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gamzee is a highblood, right? "high" < 1306841861 77359 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no way that's the pun < 1306841863 609989 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disbelieve < 1306841881 14677 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005407 < 1306841907 639474 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the first parenthetical note < 1306841916 106052 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although yes, I know that's the ancestors < 1306841919 964765 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still applies imo < 1306841935 738280 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, okay, taken < 1306843720 806344 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1306844033 94196 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a bit of speculation
< 1306844050 767809 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not going to say it for fear of spoileriness < 1306846196 985632 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306846396 916667 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306847584 878323 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306847641 333017 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306848413 88173 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1306850518 366578 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1306850916 431436 :TOGoS!~Stevens@h69-128-42-2.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306850943 357611 :TOGoS!~Stevens@h69-128-42-2.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net PART :#esoteric < 1306852499 939282 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306852608 284469 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1306852744 500680 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1306852817 521819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306852821 227699 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1306854216 725758 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1306855354 473892 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306855360 578398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1306855365 690936 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1306855858 465669 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306856272 499478 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306856293 530896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1306856297 945369 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1306858144 516922 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1306859045 871697 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1306859089 553523 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-217-28.vodafone-net.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1306860026 491541 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 NICK :not_not_mike_mac < 1306860040 267511 :not_not_mike_mac!~augur@208.58.6.161 NICK :augur < 1306860581 473194 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 NICK :CauseItsTheBest < 1306860593 325051 :CauseItsTheBest!~augur@208.58.6.161 NICK :augur < 1306861353 991649 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-170-165.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1306861357 693372 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-184-184.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306861650 292010 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WWI-re.png < 1306861661 374430 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have thought a world war would be less one-sided. < 1306861959 856022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1306861987 308391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306862342 923699 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the landmass thing makes it look more one-sided than it was? < 1306862361 555248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What landmass thing? < 1306862395 445345 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just that size of a country doesn't necessarily represent... hmm, not sure < 1306862421 743582 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : it seems that a lot of time was spent bugtesting 20th century warfare, in WWI. < 1306862523 344406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bug #3451: effectiveness of chlorine considerably reduced by client-side exploit with urine-soaked cloth. < 1306862579 775865 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: an area-preserving map would make russia and canada smaller, but would also make africa, india and brazil larger < 1306862602 97087 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bug #3452: 100-man groups inefficient at handling indirect artillery fire < 1306862745 33624 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hm i think europe was a larger fraction of world population at that time, not to mention even more technologically superior < 1306862797 428617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bug #3453: clients fail to recover after large explosions nearby. < 1306863093 89886 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Germany had the advantage as far as technology and the use of modern military tactics, but had a disadvantage in numbers. < 1306863121 405604 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then everyone else started catching on. < 1306863233 647524 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even imagine what conventional warfare looks like now < 1306863251 702089 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Iraq'. < 1306863252 993361 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306863265 157985 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we just shoot at each other's Predator drones? < 1306863287 831374 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't think that's usually classified as conventional. < 1306863293 543102 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's two advanced nations, it consists of pointing nukes at each other and seeing who flinches first. < 1306863357 802603 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also nukes no longer fit the definition of conventional. though it is becoming the normal mode of operation, regardless of definition of terms. < 1306863381 832681 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's two advanced nations, it consists of "proxy wars". < 1306863390 888980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too. < 1306863521 253749 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just wondering, what if we forgot about nukes or had sufficient anti-nuclear defenses so that something like trench warfare existed.. but with modern military technology. < 1306863583 532844 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pure "what if" question, I guess. I suppose "Woah dude..." would be an appropriate reply. < 1306863617 214106 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's what kind of happens in a proxy war. < 1306863626 354291 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does trench warfare work even in a modern conventional war... < 1306863667 364018 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't air forces ruin that completely or something < 1306863760 557717 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no WWI and WWII had both aircraft and trenches < 1306863777 543187 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern aircraft might ruin that, though. < 1306863779 631235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to nearly the extent we have now. < 1306863783 388682 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1306864402 975324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsole < 1306864407 647932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this the best compound? < 1306864410 899991 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is yes. < 1306864446 322798 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well based solely on the name... < 1306864478 689215 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When arsole is fused to a benzene ring, this molecule is called arsindole, or benzarsole.[3]" < 1306864496 337920 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, benzarsole :D < 1306864514 715542 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chemical_compounds_with_unusual_names < 1306864546 348801 :Kustas!~xix@gprs-inet-65-55.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1306864563 525418 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is known that Glenn Seaborg proposed the chemical symbol Pu (from P.U.) for plutonium as a joke, only to find it officially adopted." < 1306864575 325615 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :P.U.? < 1306864600 352665 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.U. < 1306864616 821411 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who the hell writes it that way. < 1306864667 870142 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cummingtonite < 1306864742 899345 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, nice. < 1306864799 362790 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, did we somehow get to unusual elements from WWII? < 1306864812 739878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd been meaning to mention that. < 1306864818 704280 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's not a far stretch. < 1306864820 599229 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had nothing to do with the conversation. < 1306864867 705255 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1306864892 366288 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just wondering if we had traversed the Wikipedia link graph from WWII to strange elements, but I guess not. < 1306864908 23017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange elements < 1306864909 620123 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1306864915 161574 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM compounds. < 1306864929 670521 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Penguinone (3,4,4,5-tetramethylcyclohexa-2,5-dienone), so named because its two-dimensional structure resembles a penguin.[31]" < 1306864985 617934 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, compounds. < 1306865593 218554 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-214-132.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306865605 458657 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-184-184.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1306865873 635107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1306865885 818572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:05:20: Phantom_Hoover, why not inform him about what he's doing wrong? < 1306865887 887770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:05:27: Instead of being inflammatory? < 1306865889 857817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1306865891 911621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong copy < 1306865894 116482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:06:44: Isn't it kind of tautological to say a mathematical object doesn't exist < 1306865896 190735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:06:50: Nothing about maths exists < 1306865897 913144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(window scrolled as i dragged) < 1306865902 287998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :platonists would disagree < 1306866175 456224 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any conditions on which mathematical objects exist to platonists? < 1306866247 979371 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, are naive sets real even though they're subject to Russell's paradox? < 1306866270 940731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only consistent objects, presumably < 1306866275 249239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As defined by insert-favourite-theory-here < 1306866305 890693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a rather vague position :) < 1306866314 297696 :Kustas!~xix@gprs-inet-65-55.elisa.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a mathematical object? do you have a problem with real objects? < 1306866384 607572 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-234-128.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1306866642 940933 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a problem with all objects. Also, I hate Java. < 1306866658 245556 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did the poor island do to you < 1306866695 367646 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it had a programming language named after it. < 1306867965 778330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois Kustas < 1306867968 892186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops ;D < 1306867979 562631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've all made me paranoid :< < 1306867985 168101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i trust any new person not to just be a nickchange of another < 1306868126 302554 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just accept the truth of solipsism, and the problem goes away < 1306868154 200330 :Kustas!~xix@gprs-inet-65-55.elisa.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois elliott < 1306868163 540772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois yourself < 1306868168 495047 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois alise < 1306868171 430157 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois ehird < 1306868177 569439 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois ehypocrite :P < 1306868182 79124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER HEARD OF 'EM < 1306868206 269353 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I've done is drop that pesky 'R' :P < 1306868234 418174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND THE -L, -W, ET < 1306868235 74803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CET < 1306868235 623883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ER < 1306868236 105664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1306868277 540570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : I am so sorry ;_; < 1306868282 663102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOUGH SHIT. < 1306868352 284509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kustas: hi, welcome to the qualityest channel on irc < 1306868358 716295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the quality part should be obvious < 1306868386 738553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it you came here from the wiki? < 1306868482 162088 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-234-128.vodafone-net.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1306868554 334547 :Kustas!~xix@gprs-inet-65-55.elisa.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1306868565 631694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, where then? < 1306868741 506383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy australian mailman reminders day! < 1306868749 105821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: [asterisk]mailman mailing list < 1306868756 940570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sloppy! < 1306868763 89699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I like my version better < 1306868769 15639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's inaccurate ;( < 1306868779 348625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, it's the software that powers the list that sends the mail, not the list itself < 1306868790 452843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's /historically/ inaccurate < 1306868793 882843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are misrepresenting this great holiday < 1306868795 673332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the software isn't called "mailman mailing list" < 1306868798 911852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1306868803 730605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and that's not how it's parsed < 1306868810 622083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the subject line includes "mailing list memberships reminder" < 1306868822 242086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's australian ((mailman mailing list) reminder)s day < 1306868836 418966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminders for the mailing lists, which are powered by mailman < 1306868840 184725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :making them Mailman mailing lists < 1306868965 972646 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1306869202 624031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION continues a stupid argument on reddit
< 1306869824 808212 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1306870219 312661 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306870283 664717 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1306870432 239784 :Plazma!~Plazma@freenode/staff/plazma PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1306870484 77506 :Plazma!~Plazma@freenode/staff/plazma JOIN :#esoteric < 1306871372 300697 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-214-132.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306871651 819522 :Kustas!~xix@gprs-inet-65-55.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: headstands < 1306871721 766846 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-214-132.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306872025 453526 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-11-13.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306872295 701512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq hates qs < 1306872414 787516 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :remarkable with that nick < 1306872666 324439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pik < 1306872669 635381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hq (hate qs) < 1306872674 467878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :h heich/hate < 1306872674 796980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qs < 1306872677 956650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq hates qs < 1306872914 487740 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1306872967 32760 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-214-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, the final q is just ironic. < 1306872975 190903 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-214-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1306873035 413359 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan NICK :qs < 1306873035 782013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok pikh < 1306873038 832383 :qs!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! < 1306873040 402643 :qs!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's mean. < 1306873053 728447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qs are for losers < 1306873076 758704 :qs!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1306873079 130723 :qs!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; < 1306873081 240448 :qs!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs off
< 1306873083 434437 :qs!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan NICK :Lymia < 1306873088 421869 :shachaf_!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306873099 856060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: sorry qs :( < 1306873155 971413 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-214-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EIN VOLK! EIN REICH! FÜNFUNDZWANZIG BUCHSTABE EIN ALPHABET! < 1306873208 289341 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1306873274 818107 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget whether germans count ü, ä, ö and that sz i cannot type < 1306873440 618118 :shachaf_!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306873460 655244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what fixity is (->) again? ;D < 1306873460 730530 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly so have the germans present < 1306873462 92128 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the ss < 1306873495 314282 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: um it's _pronounced_ ess zed, isn't it < 1306873501 276941 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1306873522 364185 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, the translit for it is "ss". < 1306873528 267753 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, Strasse < 1306873551 574810 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: i mean, the _name_ of it < 1306873561 285088 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"scharfes s" < 1306873592 939653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rude oerjan :( < 1306873595 224310 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're confused because the original glyph for it is a ligature of s and z. < 1306873617 732402 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Its German name is Eszett (IPA: [ʔɛsˈt͡sɛt], lexicalized expression for sz) or scharfes S (IPA: [ˈʃaːfəs ˈʔɛs], sharp S). < 1306873641 12731 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, right, the name < 1306873646 900139 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not pronounced as "sz" < 1306873683 545416 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never come across people calling it Eszett though, scharfes s is quite common though < 1306873716 67517 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :any spelling using "sz" was changed to "ss" in one of thousands of grammar reforms < 1306873724 186582 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Maybe ~> Erm ->) --let's see if this works < 1306873724 729997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `)' < 1306873729 472959 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1306873748 519170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1306873748 731836 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Maybe ~> Erm -> Test) --let's see if this works < 1306873749 277298 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable `~>' < 1306873749 350066 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type constructor or class `Erm' < 1306873749 350259 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type constructor or class `Test' < 1306873798 414135 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Maybe `Maybe` Erm -> Test) --let's see if this works < 1306873799 30123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type constructor or class `Erm' < 1306873799 103941 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type constructor or class `Test' < 1306873811 834187 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Maybe `Maybe` Maybe -> Maybe) --let's see if this works < 1306873812 294024 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `Maybe' is applied to too many type arguments < 1306873812 377979 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the type `Maybe Maybe Maybe -> Maybe' < 1306873821 537136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1306873826 578114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try Either < 1306873833 978396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Maybe `Either` Maybe -> Maybe) < 1306873834 573176 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `Maybe' is not applied to enough type arguments < 1306873834 646305 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The first argument of `Either' should have kind `*', < 1306873834 646492 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : but `Maybe' has kind `* -> *' < 1306873839 682830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Maybe () `Either` Maybe () -> Maybe () < 1306873840 260909 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1306873840 703718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Maybe () `Either` Maybe () -> Maybe ()) < 1306873841 260356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1306873842 573620 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Maybe -> Maybe `Maybe` Maybe) --let's see if this works < 1306873843 155618 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `Maybe' is not applied to enough type arguments < 1306873843 230557 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected kind `??', but `Maybe' has kind `* -> *' < 1306873843 230724 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the type `Maybe -> Maybe Maybe Maybe' < 1306873855 525713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Maybe () -> Maybe () `Either` Maybe ()) < 1306873856 123368 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1306873857 87518 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm not interested in having it type < 1306873862 461799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this is going to work, joeran < 1306873864 499681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fair nuff < 1306873871 788457 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just trying to find the fixity < 1306873897 33530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it will tell you < 1306873908 92432 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would if i could get a fixity error < 1306873917 216474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that it's even the same parser < 1306873934 231446 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it has _infix_ types... < 1306874005 539601 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Int -> Int `State` Int) --let's see if this works < 1306874006 98566 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1306874033 441275 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1306874046 99441 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t undefined :: (Int -> Int `State` Int) < 1306874046 751046 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Int -> State Int Int < 1306874065 704682 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t undefined :: (Int `State` Int -> Int) < 1306874066 317650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :State Int Int -> Int < 1306874079 958642 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so lower than the default < 1306874085 867069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit obvious :) < 1306874099 430362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least to me < 1306874111 841989 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but without type sections it's not easy to force a fixity error < 1306874194 567765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306874284 597152 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1306874424 323108 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell newtype Test a b = T b; infixl 0 `Test`; f :: Int -> Int `Test` Int; f x = T x; main = return () < 1306874446 677474 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:40 =EgoBot> precedence parsing error < 1306874446 677704 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:40 =EgoBot> cannot mix `(->)' [infixr 0] and `Test' [infixl 0] in the same infix expression < 1306874519 726389 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that was the obvious fixity for it < 1306874544 100540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still really disturbed that you can set fixities for `foo` < 1306874553 545010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just feels _wrong_ < 1306874565 703131 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1306874587 253962 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3 `mod` 5 + 9 `div` 4 < 1306874587 791812 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1306874605 127504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooooooo < 1306874636 27098 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3 `mod` 5 ^ 9 `div` 4 < 1306874636 664447 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1306874713 88141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sobbin < 1306875208 488506 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> div x=0 < 1306875209 60171 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `=' < 1306875236 88965 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1306875242 617670 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> div x = 0 < 1306875243 452515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `=' < 1306875245 555755 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1306875265 464742 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :div is already a defined function and > only takes expressions < 1306875286 947003 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let div x = 0 in div 5 < 1306875287 640034 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1306875935 877448 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/hnzwx/til_that_a_majority_of_biologists_believe_earth/c1wxejf < 1306875948 768579 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone tell me what the hell that last guy to respond to me is trying to say. < 1306875962 788941 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems really stupid, but I'm too tired to work it out. < 1306875980 796654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: herp derp derpy derp herpderp < 1306875983 163683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :summarised for you < 1306876184 645239 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: honestly I don't see how something can be important if it doesn't concern that which is directly related to human affairs. < 1306876202 917734 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, exactly my point. < 1306876210 133185 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, related *in some way*. < 1306876218 192967 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it somehow noble to keep our little corner of the universe full of life? < 1306876264 980736 :shachaf!~shachaf@208.69.183.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306876318 460973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would argue that it's worthwhile. < 1306876337 386012 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306876355 417844 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, at this point, highly unadvisable to poke around without making sure we know what we're doing. < 1306876368 482786 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But biodiversity is so much more important than the ways it serves people. It's sad that there will be a recovery period after man that lasts for millions of years before big crazy creatures like tigers and elephants can evolve. Those creatures are what makes this planet so nice." And how will any of it be "nice" in the event that we're extinct? < 1306876507 669606 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah I'm not arguing against preserving biodiversity. I just have trouble grasping an argument about the importance of a cause that is unrelated to humanity. If it's not related to humans then it must be important in some sort of grand cosmological sense. I don't think biodiversity is important to the universe. < 1306876540 766784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, these are all things I was going to say but decided against. < 1306876549 870692 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-214-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Hardly anything that happens on this blue speck of dust *can* be important to the universe at large. < 1306876563 910594 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1306876571 162997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are, after all, only so many words worth using to say "you're wrong please shut up." < 1306876578 224405 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-214-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The simple fact is, the only thing that makes it important to us is that we happen to be on it. < 1306876598 247080 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the act of preserving life is noble. But really it's not. By preserving life we preserve predators, disease spreading insects, things that wipe out other species, etc. We can't really know what effect that has. < 1306876607 14020 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-214-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we happen to consider life inherently valuable and noble. < 1306876625 772535 :Plazma!~Plazma@freenode/staff/plazma PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1306876630 345173 :Plazma!~Plazma@freenode/staff/plazma JOIN :#esoteric < 1306876811 487789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, true, but our civilisation is currently built on a particular ecological makeup, and it's not very sensible to start messing with it more than is necessary. < 1306876851 619625 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric - we talk about WWI, German, Haskell, the existence of mathematical objects, and the philosophical implications of ecological preservation < 1306876886 398768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when have we ever talked about WWI < 1306876886 749999 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although not necessarily in that order.) < 1306876888 685618 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes, I agree. I say preservation is good, but not for stupid reasons like "it's the right thing to do just because". :P < 1306876892 501419 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, before you came in. < 1306876904 442203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, we only talk about those things until I decide the conversation has become too stupid and order you all to stop < 1306876926 506862 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes elliott is the prime minister of #estoeric. < 1306876943 277275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1306876963 781034 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :self-appointed. < 1306876975 525516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, appointed by definition. < 1306876989 737540 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, as defined by elliott. < 1306877004 403261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. as defined by THE PLATONIC CONCEPT OF PRIME MINISTERIALITY itself. < 1306877013 69240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you, i'm archive binging doctor who. (<-- new answer to everything) < 1306877023 464784 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, never liked that show. < 1306877055 71389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: psht, he thinks i'm talking about just the new series < 1306877056 916126 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :out < 1306877059 575963 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1306877073 910060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got four fucking decades of it to go through < 1306877083 987127 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you now? < 1306877108 898055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: was watching the first serial, but it's paused pending a torrent of the entire fucking thing to complete for the person I'm binging it with in America < 1306877114 419796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then some trans-continental external hard drive mailing < 1306877129 79617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my disk is too small to store all the episodes (two hundred gibibytes), and my internet connection is slow) < 1306877160 238867 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have no disks larger than 200GB? seriously? < 1306877165 698361 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I may be the other end of that torrent < 1306877176 418693 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh I didn't know it was such a massive program(me? fucking limeys) < 1306877177 270582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: there are over a hundred other ends of it < 1306877180 127261 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306877182 101131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh, I do, but they're all internal < 1306877183 922234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not in this laptop < 1306877188 74936 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah, ok, you have better connectivity than I do < 1306877195 869353 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have like 3 peers for some reason < 1306877199 390847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: seeders, I mean < 1306877210 155899 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which torrent? < 1306877217 776309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :122fccaa560242d3c89577d419e9e485d8e22fae < 1306877223 324959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :file list at http://torrentz.eu/122fccaa560242d3c89577d419e9e485d8e22fae < 1306877230 609121 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc (at home) there were only like 6 seeders and 100ish leechers < 1306877253 422552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :126 seeders, 1,502 leechers says torrentz < 1306877255 766617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it may be wrong < 1306877272 342952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know Mr. Downloader is connected to like fifty peers, so < 1306877284 193920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was going at a semi-decent speed, but it's been in the teens of kibibytes since < 1306877287 321827 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, the torrent I have covers the new series and several spinoffs too < 1306877287 458002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is... ridiculous < 1306877294 771225 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-214-132.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1306877305 723200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hmm, if I'd seen that I would have probably downloaded it instead < 1306877310 303120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have all the fan reconstructions? < 1306877315 894482 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know < 1306877319 48145 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how I can tell ld to put stuff at one offset in the file, put a different offset in the part that tells the elf boot loader where to load it, and use a third offset for where things will appear in virtual memory < 1306877322 666955 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has some I think < 1306877326 595625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: do you have the hash? < 1306877329 802333 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some files are labeled (reconstruction) so I assume so < 1306877339 6065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably has the same source files then < 1306877342 198425 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://torrentz.eu/195862a4c232b8b48e2d94d5d12f852f626e84b9 < 1306877342 839452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the classic series < 1306877345 207227 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1306877369 802076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao, it has K9 < 1306877388 872735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, it doesn't have A Fix with Sontarans or Dimensions in Time or anything :-P < 1306877400 374018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nabs it to see if it'll go any faster than the other one
< 1306877441 45428 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the ninth doctor is the sexiest of all. < 1306877460 662793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonsense, have you ever seen William Hartnell??!!!?! < 1306877463 783842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1306877472 720667 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hartnell is the best. < 1306877479 439577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :best racist asshole < 1306877482 293255 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the party line. < 1306877506 171477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: heh, it started off about twenty times faster than the other one but has now promptly crawled down to being roughly as slow (six kibibytes per second) :( < 1306877522 963143 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah :/ < 1306877532 766120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd probably be quicker to make thousands of pounds and buy all the raw material than to wait for this < 1306877532 861000 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the weakest link is hilarious < 1306877552 427196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: have you been spying on our television ಠ_ಠ < 1306877578 574618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. of episodes 1600+ (incl. prime time) < 1306877583 598126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, now I have to archive binge The Weakest Link < 1306877588 12793 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've seen a few episodes. But I was talking specifically about the doctor who one that's in the torrent and for whatever reason finished downloading for me before any episode of the series proper < 1306877599 656779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh you mean the spoof? < 1306877602 792570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in one of the episodes < 1306877605 102422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that television one < 1306877606 222255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the new series < 1306877615 751847 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they did a weakest link with cast members for charity < 1306877620 677440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1306877626 899467 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in that torrent < 1306877628 53699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great thing about the weakest link is how tiny the prizes are < 1306877630 752376 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1306877635 672206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG I GET TO WALK AWAY WITH _TWO_ _THOUSAND_ _POUNDS_ < 1306877638 460686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happiest day of my life < 1306877641 652666 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hi, I'm David, I'm 900 years old and I'm from Gallifrey" < 1306877660 722944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1306877695 890342 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, someone, just for kicks, has been computing election results for Canada under the stochastic election system. < 1306877707 46340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yes, Russell O'Connor < 1306877710 812132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the erm, "populariser" of the system < 1306877720 510469 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1306877724 651014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka: the person whose blog post I link to whenever I want to describe it to someone < 1306877733 914045 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you have The Curse of Fatal Death? < 1306877741 288741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: unfortunately it means basically nothing because the votes are under the non-stochastic system < 1306877744 19377 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, saw his post on Planet Haskell on the 2011 stochastic election. < 1306877753 891769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Planning to watch that where it appears chronologically. < 1306877767 52912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I mean come on, we're going to watch the _EastEnders crossover_. < 1306877774 209069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think we would skip that?! < 1306877795 61321 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: link? < 1306877806 364480 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://r6.ca/blog/20110530T170250Z.html For 2011. < 1306877807 688346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://r6.ca/blog/20110505T205710Z.html < 1306877808 966323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://r6.ca/blog/20110530T170250Z.html < 1306877816 532508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed the update :P < 1306877833 803201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh hang on, the torrent speed is climbing up < 1306877847 970090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it stays up for a while i'll get mr downloader to switch over to this one since it'll be quicker < 1306877876 814873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gross, the New Doctor episodes are in SD) < 1306877894 702395 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: for some reason I found that downloading a parallel torrent would speed it up sometimes < 1306877906 230304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: wat < 1306877911 619988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1306877924 531017 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was crawling at a few kb/s < 1306877932 156446 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I started downloading the most recent episod < 1306877936 855026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if the torrent finished before summer is over since that's when the downloader has the most time to waste watching an entire serial per day < 1306877937 284828 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it jumped to like 100 < 1306877950 29730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: only one thing for it < 1306877954 7523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll start the other torrent with the same stuff < 1306877959 281296 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1306877960 623226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they'll both shoot up in speed < 1306877960 696793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOGIC < 1306877973 937038 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually if you selectively download so there's no overlap it might work < 1306878020 675221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how transmission actually estimates over two thousand days remaining for the slower one < 1306878027 507763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that information will never be useful to anyone ever < 1306878038 106834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should just display "Don't bother, just cancel this torrent and find another one." instead < 1306878148 878105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: well, the torrent you're on seems to be hovering around sixty kib/s, which gives a much better fifty days to wait than the few thousand on the other one < 1306878150 752089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, thank you < 1306878184 164254 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: with any luck you and I will peer and our net speed will go up < 1306878219 405330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: well, I'm about to turn it off and wait for Mr. Downloader to get at the computer so I can tell him to switch; this thing is several gigabytes more than my total hard disk size < 1306878226 828920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more than twice this partition's size < 1306878233 960131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so downloading it directly myself is not practical :) < 1306878273 197480 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm selectively downloading for now < 1306878292 779071 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will probably get a USB hard drive and move to it or something < 1306878311 886395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we'll just download the classic-who episodes from this and get the new series in a higher quality at a faster speed elsewhere < 1306878321 586444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not completist enough to want to watch K9 :P < 1306878321 831260 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does sound reasonable < 1306878329 831758 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only fit the first three doctors on my current disk though < 1306878334 187186 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's kind of irrelevant for me < 1306878339 782992 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for now < 1306878356 134436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, thus the transcontinental external hard drive plan :) < 1306878390 278963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if another friend gives in and says yes to watching it all, maybe we should cover it with stamps whenever it goes somewhere < 1306878392 943580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN SEE A MAILING LIST IN THIS < 1306878395 922467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Whodrive < 1306878409 778308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then someone formats it and all the fun ends < 1306878499 53417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i'm kind of dreading the reconstructions tbh < 1306878499 942138 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306878513 390041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a radio show where all the narration is silent and done with scrolling text instead < 1306878517 683778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a bunch of stills accompanying it < 1306878519 42841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWESOME < 1306878524 149972 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I dunno < 1306878540 807320 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's better than nothing < 1306878565 702949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should worry more about e.g. the unbearable cheesiness of the vast majority of the early stuff, more than that, really :P < 1306878610 891029 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1306878627 359982 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've watched the very first episode < 1306878632 797298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :serial or episode? < 1306878635 820265 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :episode < 1306878640 67922 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :other three finished last night < 1306878641 948819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1306878642 872659 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(downloading) < 1306878650 360341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second episode is... not as high-quality < 1306878656 50725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because the cavemen are terrible < 1306878657 627515 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I'm expecting < 1306878670 181811 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was not a lot of room for too much cheesiness in the first episode < 1306878686 341388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... but as soon as i saw the torrent it was basically inevitable that i'd have the urge to binge it all, so i can't complain too much :) < 1306878869 477650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t foldr (const f) undefined (repeat ()) < 1306878870 100566 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall b. (Show b, SimpleReflect.FromExpr b) => b < 1306878872 772337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f -> foldr (const f) undefined (repeat ()) < 1306878873 321209 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall b. (b -> b) -> b < 1306879211 979846 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: will that terminate? < 1306879221 201676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fix. < 1306879228 704843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, depends on its argument. < 1306879230 220067 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, ah I see. < 1306879247 959268 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was having a hard time following the folding logic but I think I see now. < 1306879250 150449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr (const (0:)) undefined (repeat ()) < 1306879250 777497 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,... < 1306879255 438129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from http://www.haskell.org/wikiupload/1/14/TMR-Issue6.pdf. < 1306879266 305151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they used (repeat undefined) rather than (repeat ()), but yeah. < 1306879298 441982 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be (repeat pi) right? doesn't matter. < 1306879313 291269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1306879399 387514 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what kind of proper does something have that makes it terminate when fixed? < 1306879405 88999 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*property < 1306879417 516983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just lets you do general recursion :P < 1306879562 367710 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\xs@(x:_) -> (x+1):xs) < 1306879565 933471 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1306879573 925687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\xs@(x:_) -> 0:(x+1):xs) < 1306879577 489311 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1306879579 598026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1306879580 334098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1306879592 580140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\xs -> 0 : (case xs of (x:xs') -> (x+1):xs)) < 1306879593 286261 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,... < 1306879619 601117 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm? < 1306879625 937906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: laziness < 1306879631 372454 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's right < 1306879631 557987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you force a pattern-match before ever producing an element there < 1306879647 50926 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot about that caveat. < 1306879677 587383 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell slips my mind so easily.. probably because I still haven't used it much. < 1306879689 917291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because perl is busy poisoning you < 1306879693 37914 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, I should find an open source Haskell project. < 1306879694 343912 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, yes. < 1306879709 588989 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I think I've gotten to an intermediate of perl understanding, so I am comfortable moving to another place. < 1306879758 157779 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, I can answer most questions on #perl, but the grumpy oldbies still school me on trivial details that I hadn't considered. < 1306879853 204679 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a Haskell signal processing package would be something I could work on. < 1306879853 713482 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → sleep
< 1306879859 589394 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1306879906 799228 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've really wanted a nice clean notation I can use to describe various time-varying signals. < 1306879949 871765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's rather vague < 1306879955 479346 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1306879983 438084 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not really.. < 1306880241 411634 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a broad statement, describing a specific goal. < 1306880528 991362 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :cFifth = foldl1 (\(xa,xf) (ya,yf) -> (sine xf $*$ xa) $+$ (sine yf $*$ ya)) [(2000,220), (1500, 330), (500, 440)] < 1306880549 786150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of the things http://yaxu.org/ does. < 1306880562 369949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has various Haskell-music things and does livecoding performances with them. < 1306880562 745465 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though if the type is something like (Num n) => Signal n < 1306880568 666789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take a look at his videos. < 1306880574 172121 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be able to make a Num instance and just use + and * < 1306880593 700668 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, livecoding is something I'm interested in. Though less so than studio production with code. < 1306880608 913187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a look at his videos then :P < 1306880686 477041 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, that's interesting < 1306880697 596237 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :he must be telling it to re-evaluate the code when he's finished something. < 1306880727 292778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is, obviously, since you can see it flashing :) < 1306880732 73442 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, the good ol' copypasta technique. < 1306880752 921760 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn how to type properly. :P < 1306880765 189077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1306880768 374235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it flashes because of his emacs mode. < 1306880776 51977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: there is also his other stuff like http://yaxu.org/text-update-and-source/ < 1306880796 161475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the post before that too < 1306880809 31441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's based on haskell too iirc < 1306880820 691487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh http://yaxu.org/workshop-output/ is done with the same language/tool thing I think < 1306880845 43313 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what those ~~'s are doing. < 1306880859 598144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a summary in one of his posts IIRC < 1306880873 675201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately it is hard to see the actual code in http://yaxu.org/workshop-output/ :P < 1306881047 102550 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a pretty fast typing speed but it's entirely using my index and middle finger. I think I would type faster if I practiced a better technique but currently I'm very slow at typing normally. < 1306881152 690087 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wow. < 1306881163 36017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wow what < 1306881164 468651 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your amazing typing speed with only index and middle finger? :P < 1306881168 18756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1306881171 215532 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, I don't know. < 1306881175 981216 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tested it out recently. < 1306881191 138944 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cuz I type at 115WPM, but then I use all my fingers ... except for my left thumb. < 1306881361 783115 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, it's my *right* thumb that goes unused when I'm typing. < 1306881362 323851 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just did a typing test and got 97 WPM < 1306881374 276459 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My spacebar has a noticable indentation for my thumb now. < 1306881375 357187 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it said "N.F.L." like 10 times which seriously slowed me down. < 1306881382 911367 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306881385 529631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306881398 133427 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously who types NFL like that. < 1306881412 571165 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People more pedantic than I. < 1306881415 560873 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who apparently exist. < 1306881510 750523 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306881666 463200 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 WPM on a less stupid test. < 1306881725 233456 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the average for this site is apparently 36 WPM... < 1306881858 544737 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-11-13.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306881969 54762 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just never built the reflexes to touch type any other way. < 1306882034 14293 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can usually do about 90-100 touch typing with all my fingers except usually my left thumb < 1306882044 585973 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also use exclusively my right pinky for shift rather than either pinky < 1306882055 128730 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I make mistakes but usually correct them by feel < 1306882059 447862 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use pinky for shift, enter, ctrl, and alt < 1306882074 389533 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's it.. < 1306882077 535990 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: heh, I only use my left shift < 1306882086 606411 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I have a few other oddities < 1306882094 33866 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a right shifter, but I use ctrl and alt on the left side. < 1306882117 847010 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Left Shift Would Be Weird. < 1306882122 110637 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only use my pinkies for modifiers and they keys they naturally rest on actually < 1306882155 422903 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(plus /) < 1306882184 246483 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: stupid brit < 1306882184 986646 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I occasionally use my ring finger... I think. Not often. Most of the time my fingers are dancing all over the place when I type so I use my most dextrous ones. < 1306882205 453063 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: uhhhhh... fagnadian < 1306882208 801679 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah my burns are on top form today < 1306882211 220353 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306882334 112808 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION typically averages ~70.
< 1306882341 376946 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's mostly because of typo correction. < 1306882356 417044 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inexplicably, I have a somewhat high typo rate. Kinda sucks. < 1306882404 938039 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I alternate shift, left thumb alt, left pinky Ctrl. < 1306882452 764162 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only key to the immediate right of space I end up using is Win, which I have bound to compose. < 1306882469 867101 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj JOIN :#esoteric < 1306882472 586839 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have alt bound to compose but rarely use it < 1306882483 784140 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't use any of the others on any sort of regular basis < 1306882489 44416 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? i only use my pinky fingers to type < 1306882494 413976 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: Hardcore. < 1306882497 538590 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well pinky and ring < 1306882498 814665 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll bet if I joined ##javascript with this hostname some people would worship me :P < 1306882505 1859 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1306882521 326739 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly is using home row an advantage in programming, where a large percentage of the characters you type end up being punctuation? < 1306882521 399646 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is actually a good way to practice now that i try it :D < 1306882532 476259 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Not as much of an advantage. < 1306882548 889413 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fingers end up actually hovering vaguely above the home row, BTW. < 1306882566 596225 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only coming down to rest when I'm not actively typing. < 1306882567 606004 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes of course it is an advantage, because your editor uses hjkl for movement < 1306882576 718363 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as a/s/d for basic editing < 1306882593 790034 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'll bet if I joined ##javascript with this hostname some people would worship me :P < 1306882596 77839 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do it :P < 1306882606 725822 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does nat/ even mean < 1306882622 429707 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I guess for certain "major" NATs they rename you to nat/lol/somebullshit < 1306882623 669709 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Of course, you *do* still write a notable number of alphabetic characters in most languages. < 1306882628 194207 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I can one-up that < 1306882632 691885 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yes. < 1306882633 630696 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. for the NAT that Mozilla has for wireless. < 1306882637 404528 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough*APL*cough* < 1306882642 188988 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: Oh, regular kind of NAT < 1306882650 81458 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I just have mad typing skills without a traditional technique. < 1306882652 701511 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there. < 1306882654 990992 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Uhh, yes :P < 1306882680 239087 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: The traditional technique is just much *easier* to achieve speed with. < 1306882681 632963 :schunt!~scshunt@nat/google/x-qaicuyiudeydnqzg JOIN :#esoteric < 1306882684 110387 :schunt!~scshunt@nat/google/x-qaicuyiudeydnqzg PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1306882712 866427 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yes, but so hard for me to learn now. Because I don't want to deal with typing slow for a long time until I get the hang of it. It's like switching keyboard layouts < 1306882716 555298 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not quite as bad. < 1306882719 386098 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :schunt: Gregorzilla: Fight to the death. < 1306882724 297495 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's at least possible to achieve non-terrible speeds so long as you're not freaking staring at the keyboard. < 1306882733 202802 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :schunt: Oh noooooose! < 1306882736 470707 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Man. I can't hunt-and-peck anymore. < 1306882746 908643 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :schunt: Violated privacy good lately? < 1306882749 871761 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fingers won't let me. < 1306882755 238011 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: Made a hog of a web browser lately? < 1306882756 308120 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TROLLFACE < 1306882759 972477 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They force me to type right. < 1306882770 192983 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eagerly awaiting * foo (~foo@nat/microsoft/x-gjdfgkjdgsdkfj) has joined #esoteric < 1306882774 476121 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :followed by a swift lynching < 1306882776 205432 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even what I do. I just have my keyboard memorized. I also just memorize the motions for words. < 1306882777 189625 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bahaha < 1306882786 216875 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is 'traditional technique'? < 1306882788 36272 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :schunt: But seriously, who are you? X-P < 1306882788 122400 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it'll be oerjan < 1306882790 118310 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he DOES use IE after all < 1306882794 943985 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: pooppy < 1306882798 443718 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: Touch typing, home row, and all that. < 1306882804 26222 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooppy is at Google? < 1306882808 601881 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is non-traditional? < 1306882814 483471 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: CakeProphet apparently pecks. < 1306882817 736020 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Which Google location? < 1306882820 129012 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: No, he's just leeching their WiFi. < 1306882823 626728 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OBVIOUSLY < 1306882823 884653 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1306882824 941433 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol < 1306882830 999048 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: I am the best pecker of all. < 1306882831 424183 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-27-247.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a l0z3r amirite < 1306882838 539415 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: Can you BELIEVE they didn't set a password???? < 1306882841 672100 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least he's not hunt-and-pecking. < 1306882853 747124 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: MTV < 1306882869 403949 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooppy: Dude, you're like RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. < 1306882870 148812 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Not shown any music videos well lately????????? < 1306882871 571653 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HYUK < 1306882878 708040 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: coppro: OMG MEET UP < 1306882880 858194 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND FIGHT < 1306882881 689811 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TO THE DEATH < 1306882893 900944 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: where are you? < 1306882902 360360 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Mozilla's main HQ. < 1306882905 817749 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: I hear consuming drugs is a common thing to do at a social gathering. < 1306882906 875064 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is...? < 1306882913 267411 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Mountain View < 1306883003 912318 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1306883007 562046 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, I'm never going to find people who want to play a roleplaying game over IRC... < 1306883012 475374 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* FireFly has quit (Quit: swatted to death) < 1306883015 146359 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might as well give up < 1306883022 128850 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first casualty in the Gregorzilla/schunt war of two thousand 'leven < 1306883026 770342 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: See how people behave on ##javascript ? Doesn't it make you want to kill yourself? < 1306883033 115 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i put on my robe and etc. < 1306883041 577516 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: yeah, can you believe it's full of people who USE JAVASCRIPT?? < 1306883042 261553 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ewwwww < 1306883049 600558 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dun dun DUNNNNN < 1306883060 889657 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: not quite what I have in mind. But, I guess since we're on the subject, you can't ignore my girth. < 1306883067 781282 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are you two meeting up or not, it would be a HISTORIC MOMENT. < 1306883082 659871 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could play Yahtzee < 1306883084 899813 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :HISTORICALLY < 1306883088 566446 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Hey there Britto, I think you mean "an historic moment" X-P < 1306883090 442381 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: do you know a Toby Elliott by any chance < 1306883098 576837 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Or SHOWDOWN TO THE DEATH. < 1306883100 819615 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HISTORICALLY < 1306883103 961229 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hi, every Elliott here < 1306883109 957930 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all other elliotts are imposters < 1306883111 594771 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Nope. < 1306883136 606680 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: You know that you're the music hall at Purdue, right? < 1306883149 660732 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: Yeah. < 1306883155 2483 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: It's kind of great, apart from the poultry science. < 1306883166 759234 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it's strange that it's spelled 'historically' even though you're more likely to pronounce it as "historicly" < 1306883169 590103 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: kk < 1306883171 934844 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah ... clearly they need a SECOND poultry science annex building. < 1306883175 864714 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's English, once again. < 1306883198 928603 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Gregorzilla: MEET UP YOU BASTARDS < 1306883208 365007 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic < 1306883211 214526 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1306883216 911219 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gotta get better at typing slashes < 1306883261 327751 :Gregorzilla!~Gregor@nat/mozilla/x-tfjxxjvbqgqjypvj PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooppy: Why should I know Toby Elliott? < 1306883261 640696 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn CakeProphet's mad peck typing kungfu < 1306883276 111395 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a tory < 1306883278 215532 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APPARENTLY < 1306883279 247335 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAYS GOOGLE < 1306883450 274569 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1306883452 335231 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a different toby < 1306883456 867021 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregorzilla: guy I know works at mozilla < 1306883654 850312 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, I might switch to puredyne < 1306883691 584402 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or figure out how to remove pulseaudio from ubuntu and not have anything else break. < 1306883780 921308 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/ < 1306883786 978575 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the volume control thingamajig will break though < 1306884091 768503 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if that doesn't break my volume control keys, then I'm fine with that. But I suspect it might. < 1306884192 779200 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306884294 999052 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it does. < 1306884298 536862 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are replacements, but. < 1306884392 198370 :schunt!~scshunt@nat/google/x-qaicuyiudeydnqzg QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1306884398 32881 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got bored < 1306884500 694694 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you meet gregor < 1306884597 470284 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1306884983 19834 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: hmm, so this blog you linked me keeps mentioning a "hackpact" in which he and bunch of other people wrote a lot of code to do live coding in Haskell... but, I cannot find a link to the source. < 1306885005 797901 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there is http://yaxu.org/software/, http://yaxu.org/tidal/. < 1306885029 402124 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those posts look really old though < 1306885051 446203 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might try to contact him and see if he has anything new.. < 1306885056 194792 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is INTRIGUED.
< 1306885098 116601 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoy that it works with visual as well as aural media. You can use that to make a color pattern, and then plug that into a spiral renderer to make nifty spiral shapes. < 1306885153 993996 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's all in Haskell. < 1306885402 660171 :TOGoS!~Stevens@h69-128-42-2.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306885422 465028 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1306885534 195182 :TOGoS!~Stevens@h69-128-42-2.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net PART :#esoteric < 1306885843 207516 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how good or bad PulseAudio is these days.
< 1306885864 450084 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, at least in 2009 it was the horrible program that broke your audio, but does it work sanely these days? < 1306885887 83359 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.230.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1306885905 348016 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, regardless of whether or not it functions at all, a freaking audio server is probably a fucking retarded idea. < 1306885970 251935 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm almost positive he could turn the Pattern data type into a monad. < 1306885971 407766 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, well. If you absolutely must have one, make it like JACK. < 1306885999 497882 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause, uh, JACK doesn't suck. < 1306886000 90420 :hiato!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1306886012 44403 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1306886023 252529 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306886037 757218 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1306886042 917819 :CakeProphet!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306886042 989861 :CakeProphet!~adam@h177.62.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1306886042 990013 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1306886071 695656 :hiato!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1306886083 842622 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1306886112 30479 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-134.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably helps a lot that JACK wants a real-time kernel. < 1306886376 327766 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, JACK works very well in puredyne < 1306886397 536242 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't really know if I want to boot it to hard disk. I guess I'll just stick to USB boot if I ever use it.