< 1308182439 848972 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1308182468 68363 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1308182520 260563 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of \'s between each " goes as 2^n-1 < 1308182520 440312 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :t Data.Function.fix (concatMap show) < 1308182520 619774 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1308182520 619977 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo hi < 1308182520 986912 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1308182522 839042 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Function.fix (concatMap show) :: [Char] < 1308182548 445992 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one _should_ have done something similar, characterwise < 1308182562 517752 :comex!~root@ec2-67-202-46-7.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1308182579 314530 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't... because show on a Char isn't lazy enough to give the initial ' without looking at the character first... < 1308182596 431201 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if we cheat a bit we can see what that should have looked like < 1308182615 449446 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1308182615 628757 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1308182615 628821 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh while true; do echo -n y; done < 1308182620 804276 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was dumb) < 1308182638 621688 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell take 100 $ Data.Function.fix (('\'':).tail.concatMap show) < 1308182641 204915 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"'\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\\\''\\'''\\''" < 1308182648 494410 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure *shrugs* < 1308182653 860341 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably something to do with how it outputs that. < 1308182655 359718 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell putStrLn . take 100 $ Data.Function.fix (('\'':).tail.concatMap show) < 1308182656 913976 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'\'''\\''\'''\'''\'''\\''\\''\'''\'''\\''\'''\'''\'''\\''\'''\'''\'''\\''\'''\'''\'''\\''\\''\'''\'' < 1308182660 656554 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4282b.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1308182665 45169 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might happen to work if it flushes. < 1308182670 857292 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4282b.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308182686 875094 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell Data.Function.fix (('\'':).tail.concatMap show) < 1308182699 299365 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"'\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\'''\\'''\\'''\\\\''\\\\ < 1308182703 625089 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: weird that it would flush better with that than with an infinite list. maybe it also has something to do with speed of printing... < 1308182727 414962 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it normally times out before getting far enought that ghc needs to flush < 1308182732 144130 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-t < 1308182750 167562 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is lambdabot? < 1308182763 927513 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell Data.Function.fix ('a':) < 1308182781 8456 :comex!~root@ec2-67-202-46-7.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1308182787 691214 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't work :( < 1308182794 66690 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo hi < 1308182805 176608 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1308182807 167767 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1308182807 467264 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1308182813 688521 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no echo? < 1308182839 442364 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help userinterps < 1308182839 706684 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​userinterps: Users can add interpreters written in any of the languages in !help languages. See !help addinterp, delinterp, show | !userinterps. List interpreters added with !addinterp. < 1308182846 932282 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps < 1308182847 213460 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: acro aol austro bc bct bfbignum brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes chaos chiqrsx9p choo ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo eehird ehird elmer fudd google graph gregor hello id jethro kraut lperl lsh map num ook pansy pi pikhq pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 sadbf sanetemp sfedeesh sffedeesh simplename slashes svedeesh swedish ustemp valspeak warez wc yodawg < 1308182850 453601 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1308182852 596416 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ^ echo < 1308182903 543304 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: netsplat a moment ago, after not responding for a while < 1308183107 11815 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1308183108 283644 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4282b.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1308183139 812791 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4282b.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308183317 515106 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell Data.Function.fix (\x -> "LOOK BEHIND YOU " + x) < 1308183344 359107 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell Data.Function.fix (\x -> "LOOK BEHIND YOU " ++ x) < 1308183398 845940 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell Data.Function.fix show < 1308183413 340476 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ < 1308183510 45570 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it on the contrary works because fix show is _slow_... < 1308183536 394549 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1308183551 850754 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell Data.Function.fix ("\\\""++) < 1308183580 255152 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe EgoBot just likes Lymia. < 1308183583 354780 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo hi < 1308183610 631806 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4282b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chekcs his codepage configuration < 1308183617 584642 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell Data.Function.fix (\x -> show $ "LOOK BEHIND YOU " ++ x) < 1308183631 787605 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"\"LOOK BEHIND YOU \\\"LOOK BEHIND YOU \\\\\\\"LOOK BEHIND YOU \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"LOOK BEHIND YOU \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"LOOK BEHIND YOU \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"LOOK BEHIND YOU \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"LOOK BEHIND YOU \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ < 1308183635 888663 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1308183664 802832 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering if there may be some kind of balance... it needs to print enough, and _then_ time out? < 1308183747 14265 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4282b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be kool to see just the parts with high information density < 1308183747 193771 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell "testing... " ++ Data.Function.fix id < 1308183750 389665 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*** Exception: stack overflow < 1308183755 930894 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1308183797 372647 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it seems EgoBot then went on to try running it as a _module_ afterwards... < 1308183834 895597 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1308184025 279474 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1308184628 457088 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1308184739 780376 :CakeProphet!~adam@h66.4.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308184740 224472 :CakeProphet!~adam@h66.4.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1308184740 404142 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1308185286 108227 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1308185304 256100 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1308185329 779264 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308185361 43208 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1308186189 383710 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-219-174.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks for good compile-time undefined behavior < 1308186206 294382 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1308187271 705278 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-219-174.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuckit. */ < 1308187332 971401 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1308187811 19816 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1308188314 511851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1308188527 562309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1308189828 88488 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1308190094 316237 :pizearke!~androirc@173-122-164-49.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Quit: quuiiiitttt! < 1308190113 355657 :pizearke!~androirc@173-122-164-49.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308192877 192536 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're male most of the time, right? < 1308192897 904770 :Adamfyre!~Android@174-24-204-215.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308192940 169280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: That's... a technically true statement :P < 1308193015 152344 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, my question is true. < 1308193045 751145 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean that it's a good, precise question, whose answer is likely to enlighten rather than confuse? < 1308193058 966172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sure is a conversation. < 1308193247 823017 :Adamfyre!~Android@174-24-204-215.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: AndroidIrc Disconnecting < 1308193576 562578 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1308193604 269380 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1308193917 954164 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1308195038 255471 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-175-113.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308195226 568319 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just OUCH? < 1308195247 64105 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-219-174.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1308195275 716892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: You're just OUCH most of the time, right? < 1308195636 241996 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308195664 940874 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1308195991 370212 :piz2!~androirc@107.28.78.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308196213 229271 :pizearke!~androirc@173-122-164-49.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1308196271 959550 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1308196467 875425 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1308196605 103111 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda `c.i < 1308196605 492432 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1308196629 895578 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda `c.i.t < 1308196630 306100 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1308196638 188071 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda ``c.i.t < 1308196638 610685 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1308196656 498245 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda ```c.i.t.y < 1308196656 893203 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt < 1308196711 834204 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda `````.S``c.u.c.e.s.s < 1308196712 220475 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./interps/unlambda/unlambda.bin: file /tmp/input.32133: parse error < 1308196738 197953 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda ````.S``c.u.c.e.s.s < 1308196738 588360 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ucSces < 1308196786 68715 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda ``````c`.S.u.c.e.s.si < 1308196786 428789 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Success < 1308196807 261097 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: was that your solution too? < 1308196889 853693 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda `````c`.S.u.c``c.e.si < 1308196890 240041 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./interps/unlambda/unlambda.bin: file /tmp/input.32431: parse error < 1308196896 211080 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1308196908 630102 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda ````c`.S.u.c``c.e.si < 1308196909 72707 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sucescs < 1308196916 303329 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1308196934 761003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucesces < 1308196939 760956 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close :P < 1308196945 12463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to do, BTW? < 1308196971 776237 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 mentioned he'd got this golf down to 21 in unlambda < 1308196985 116438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1308196987 768913 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That was not quite my solution but it was similar to that < 1308197043 413070 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1308197062 71046 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda ``````c`c`.S.u.c.e.si < 1308197062 445445 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./interps/unlambda/unlambda.bin: file /tmp/input.32699: parse error < 1308197066 763430 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda `````c`c`.S.u.c.e.si < 1308197067 202724 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Succes < 1308197071 725719 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1308197199 972435 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh wait there should be a . at the end? < 1308197207 998165 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no < 1308197307 396429 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda ```c```c`.S.u.c.e.si < 1308197307 710619 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Success < 1308197310 605580 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1308197336 2369 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Post to anarchy golf if you did it good. < 1308197373 490720 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will. what's the open code-statistics? < 1308197424 220351 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always like to select that option. It means it tells you how many binary/alphanumeric/symbols < 1308197438 926197 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i did too < 1308197461 621918 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Look below, under the "Statistics" column for the summary of solutions, that is what those numbers means.) < 1308197469 620498 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay my first golf submission (afair) < 1308197691 390995 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh someone manage brainfuck in 18 bytes < 1308197693 368669 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*d < 1308197708 376565 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell are you doing, oerjan < 1308197718 189391 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It is a BFI-specific code probably. < 1308197718 881521 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: golfing < 1308197724 46093 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :golfing? < 1308197737 536807 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes advantage of unintentional features in BFI. < 1308197737 716476 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur doesn't know about code golf? < 1308197741 168420 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1308197742 835980 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont < 1308197743 15723 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1308197777 145164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1308197784 220637 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i might, but < 1308197795 690395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw if you submit with a web browser it appends \r\n I think... or wait, does it strip all whitespace < 1308197796 987655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget < 1308197798 236653 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hm it cannot be just ! with input, that would have been shorter < 1308197812 687926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know that it uses \r\n newlines with the web form though so if you have any newlines file submission is best < 1308197818 266796 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As you can see, it is obviously not a proper brainfuck, since it has 1 binary and 7 letters (the word "Success" is in there) < 1308197822 590228 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: erm i used the form, no newlines < 1308197826 341691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : zzo38: hm it cannot be just ! with input, that would have been shorter < 1308197830 6843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfi allows self-modifying code or something < 1308197838 154679 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1308197838 334439 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes it does do that. It does not strip any whitespaces < 1308197848 730643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but does it append \r\n with the web form? < 1308197851 250002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR it does < 1308197855 269880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the web form always costs you two bytes < 1308197857 493622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though < 1308197862 376183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1308197868 448446 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes it does append \r\n when using the HTML form < 1308197875 50688 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes it allows accessing the code-space (and modifying it) < 1308197882 772597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should make a file locally and upload it to save two bytes < 1308197895 931688 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it does not append \r\n to the end. < 1308197902 277319 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only converts newlines to \r\n < 1308197908 346506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1308197911 434122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you said < 1308197912 154709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: Yes it does append \r\n when using the HTML form < 1308197912 696925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1308197926 15812 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I made a mistake in the typing sentence < 1308197929 77334 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean that. < 1308197937 809344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1308197938 552480 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it counted it as a winning entry of 20 bytes, so i must have done it right :P < 1308197939 620096 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't really say all those things that I said. < 1308197942 108782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right :P < 1308198015 670819 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: O KAY < 1308198047 76840 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people said these kind of challenges are bad challenge. Actually they are just much more simple challenge than the other ones; it doesn't make it a bad challenge (as you can see from everything). < 1308198070 823545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant output is a bad challenge < 1308198071 558208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :always < 1308198074 794588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant, trivial output that is < 1308198077 634168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in short < 1308198085 260802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are exactly two possible types of submission < 1308198094 595830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- print it in the shortest normal way in the language (i.e. with the string embedded) < 1308198100 381305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- exploit the interpreter/language to have the string built in < 1308198109 557022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither of these are interesting after, like, five billion such challenges < 1308198123 759961 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-175-113.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mutters < 1308198124 494667 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-175-113.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid command name "::build::dc::flag_read" < 1308198126 469203 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the "Zero" challenge I came with a shorter solution in shell script that other people had, at first. And then someone else figure it out afterward. < 1308198139 458450 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok but it was interesting the first time in unlambda, at least :P < 1308198140 586103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wat < 1308198148 279649 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, I agree they are not as good as other challenges. But I don't call them "bad challenge". < 1308198152 543542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do < 1308198156 242991 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-175-113.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohwait. < 1308198162 604453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there haven't been many good challenges lately in anagolf at all < 1308198172 699239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the same person kept submitting bad challenges recently < 1308198174 577868 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-175-113.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :::groups is the namespace all my building semi-objects are in. < 1308198192 496774 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-175-113.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I seem to have implemented half an object system without even thinking about it) < 1308198274 918179 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you do "Zero" challenge in five bytes of Bash or fish, or four bytes of Zsh, or five bytes of Zsh with symbol only? Maybe. It is not too difficult to figure out, although it is not the most obvious thing (it should be somewhat obvious once you figure it out, which is not too difficult to do) < 1308198358 304821 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, in Forth, it is very simple. But in symbol only, it is slightly more difficult? (I used a feature which I think is specific to gforth) < 1308198445 318509 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the "PubSubHubbub" challenge, you probably cannot get any shorter than the obvious literal way in most programming languages, but some might be able to do shorter. < 1308198629 509019 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1308199391 103224 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-175-113.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1308199396 717982 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308199502 193359 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any Windows binaries of the C binding of LLVM? < 1308199516 441290 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t readLn < 1308199517 271068 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Read a) => IO a < 1308199567 14958 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently, I'm page 10 on Google's results for "gregor" < 1308199580 914690 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some Mendel jerk is clogging up the works, but there are a few others too. < 1308199604 882976 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this Samsa creature. < 1308199618 229936 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well that must be a bug < 1308199647 643831 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ba-dum* < 1308199657 59004 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why thank you < 1308199735 117808 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, and of course some AOP guy beats me out if I look for gregor computer science < 1308199766 123136 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heyoooo, #1 for gregor javascript though < 1308200052 136765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The worst thing to be first for < 1308200062 101615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like coming first in a Terrible Person competition < 1308200183 159027 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308200253 884466 :CakeProphet!~adam@h36.57.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308200254 286145 :CakeProphet!~adam@h36.57.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1308200254 465761 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1308200703 363339 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Thought you might like to know that I've got my stuff up on Github. < 1308200707 889640 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: https://github.com/pikhq/town < 1308200823 966050 :piz2!~androirc@107.28.78.255 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1308200844 513593 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh, so this is to tup sort of as autotools are to make < 1308200854 7414 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1308200871 450567 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you think I was doing? < 1308200881 642673 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Full stack < 1308200900 654107 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I was doing a full stack, I'd have a reimplementation of tup going. :P < 1308201041 284771 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something that I suspect is going to help me extensively when I get around to it is that my autoconf-alike and automake-alike are the *precise same thing*, thereby eliminating all need for a libtool-alike. < 1308201106 501777 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as I think the *only* justification for libtool now is that Automake is too stupid to allow for outputting different rules based on what Autoconf gets.) < 1308201169 113572 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... automake can output different rules based on autoconf. < 1308201195 993728 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, no it can't. Automake runs before ./configure and potentially on a different system. < 1308201231 505395 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automake generates a Makefile.in, not a Makefile, the rules that actually make it into the Makefile can be controlled by configuration. < 1308201237 201514 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can conditionally *execute* rules, but that's not the same thing, now is it? < 1308201266 847439 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no "rules that actually make it into the Makefile"; ./configure just plugs in values for variables. < 1308201288 689055 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, AM_CONDITIONAL. < 1308201363 632492 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That has got to have some *scary* implementation logic. < 1308201386 90458 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, what's *really* going to help me is that my stack isn't in M4M4SHM4MakePerl. < 1308201412 975385 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And add another "SH" in there if you're using libtool. < 1308201434 10439 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How it works btw is that it prefixes every line with either @_TRUE@ or @_FALSE@, and I'll bet you can guess what those get set to :) < 1308201450 801520 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Wow*. < 1308201460 39328 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is brilliant. Utterly insane, but brilliant. < 1308201566 262477 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another victory for not-M4Make. < 1308201567 88336 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1308201595 397808 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1308201618 569384 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if people would complain if I started writing all my C using M4 macros. < 1308201978 147577 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost certainly. < 1308202003 267573 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that that should stop you; the Bourne shell is written using CPP macros extensively, after all. < 1308202014 802332 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to make it look like FORTRAN, IIRC) < 1308202135 209518 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I don't particularly thing M4 is good for writing C programs but there is different opinions. It should be possible to invent programming language which M4 works very well as a preprocessor. < 1308202255 266767 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: M4 was designed to be a better C preprocessor. < 1308202302 965511 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's pretty generic. < 1308202338 688941 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I however don't think it is particularly good for preprocessing C codes, in my opinion. < 1308202351 126800 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry, it was meant as a FORTRAN preprocessor. Never mind. < 1308202386 926085 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is better for that; I don't know much about FORTRAN. < 1308203763 243380 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1308204282 96597 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4282b.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1308204565 883571 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I download the LLVM binaries (and header files) for using library with C? I read some things about it and have some idea to make something with it. < 1308205044 504707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: back < 1308205061 710197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: llvm has no binary builds, just compile it yourself < 1308205074 862085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: mind if I offer critiques :D < 1308205081 551103 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not at all. < 1308205093 722284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ok well first disclaimer i havent actually really read your code much at all < 1308205109 797764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: in "c needs c99", the winning solver of c99 should take over the c command completely < 1308205120 10389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? because some compilers might use --link-with rather than -l, etc. < 1308205128 426219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need to know everything the program wants from the C compiler < 1308205132 644914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and react in a way appropriate to them < 1308205139 478470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, this actually applies to all types of tools < 1308205151 442749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the c you "needs c99" on has nothing to do with the c99 that wins! < 1308205156 587174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I feel like it should actually read "needs c : c99" < 1308205165 252370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., I need the command c in my local namespace, that's a c99 < 1308205172 329956 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Holy crap you're proposing it be more generic than Autotools. That's frightening. < 1308205183 760760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and c99 would be aliased to {c c99} (because many solvers will want to find a C compiler, /then/ see if it supports that standard) < 1308205189 700300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: perhaps so :) < 1308205195 484205 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But I would need to install all sorts of stuff to make it work and compile properly it seems, I want to download the binary < 1308205198 409519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but I think this model would actually allow it to work, unchanged, for Windows < 1308205201 561104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there is no binary < 1308205212 322538 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: True, there is that. < 1308205225 22735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: of course, most C compilers will just defer to the default functions to do things < 1308205230 207499 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The download page does list the binaries. But it doesn't seem to be the one I am looking for. < 1308205254 214404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the library-finder would return {link-with foo} rather than -lfoo, but it'd still have {cflags-ldflags foo bar} from pkg-config, there's no way to avoid that < 1308205259 939738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the compiler would just translate it accordingly < 1308205267 125673 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "LLVM Binaries for Mingw32/x86" the right one? < 1308205267 305473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the good thing is, I think this actually simplifies things < 1308205272 731516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, yes, it would be < 1308205280 774728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: because right now the "c" command is kind of... weird and a pain < 1308205315 724963 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do those binaries support the API though? < 1308205324 408192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: download and see :) < 1308205325 492912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: btw, does this generate the same Tupfile for a project no matter what machine you run it on? < 1308205327 797298 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1308205336 507899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: because if so, I think that should be a separate step, like "town init" < 1308205345 700809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then town for the users will only generate the config file < 1308205348 105428 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It generates a Tupfile only on configuration. < 1308205350 257275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seems... cleaner to me < 1308205351 705600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I know < 1308205352 842732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but I mean < 1308205356 155087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the Tupfile always the same? < 1308205358 675495 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1308205360 936949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it should be, since it should use @CC@ < 1308205363 741483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the like < 1308205364 684114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Why not? < 1308205374 741311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't use the tools correctly you will invent another autohell :) < 1308205375 88678 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, uh, I didn't make it do that. < 1308205390 290458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go make it do that X-D ...or I will < 1308205395 361600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I can figure out Practical Tcl Coding. < 1308205422 403263 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition to C99, you might also need to have one for C89, GNU89, GNU99, and the newer draft standards. < 1308205428 149558 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Tcl is probably a bit hard to jump into; I tend to be a bit metaprogramming-crazy about it. < 1308205435 384781 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Definitely do, it's just unimplemented. < 1308205445 566527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, thankfully that can go in a separate library < 1308205469 913118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I imagine you'd also have libraries for things like "c needs qt" where listing all the libraries and cflags is a huge pain.) < 1308205495 868814 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Actually, Qt 4 does pkg-config, so it's not that big of a pain. < 1308205504 560418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but there's still horrible things :P < 1308205529 240826 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ needs libs QtGui < 1308205543 565901 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bam, it pulls in Qt. < 1308205563 346685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, what I am saying is: the "foo needs thing-that-actually-specifies-what-foo-is" thing is silly and I was silly for thinking of it. < 1308205601 688410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Have you got any up-to-date example files? < 1308205604 206663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC you did one for dc. < 1308205627 303445 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That dc one is what I've been using to test. < 1308205631 398184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a link? < 1308205670 226778 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :program dc {c needs c99;c needs libs gc;in-directory src/;c sources dc.c error.c main.c stack.c} < 1308205712 244799 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And such things as, SDL, X window system, POSIX, audio, libpng, zlib, cross-compiling to different targets, maybe even one for literate programming, etc. < 1308205732 635795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: < 1308205733 366017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :program dc { < 1308205733 549956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : needs c99 < 1308205733 729905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : in-directory src < 1308205733 730084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : c99 needs libs gc < 1308205734 280084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : c99 sources dc.c error.c main.c stack.c < 1308205736 294469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1308205747 861967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("needs c : c99" is stupid, it should just define it with the given name of the thing.) < 1308205761 440432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ohbtw, does your gcc c99 finder still print out "Searching for c99" itself? < 1308205783 469928 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, that's in the solve function ATM. < 1308205784 40787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because requirements (what I call things that have solvers for them) should instead just have a "friendly name" associated with them. (in this case, "a C99 compiler") < 1308205800 970575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in this case, c99 would be defined as an alias for {c c99}, which would have friendly name "a C99 compiler". < 1308205834 542430 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Unfortunately*, it's also currently outputting that for cached results. < 1308205863 570440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it cache to a file? It should be able to cache to a file. Specifically a file in ~/.cache. < 1308205872 317919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Because it could find a C99 compiler ONCE and never do it ever again for another project. < 1308205873 806672 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1308205881 823471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what we in the biz call FINALLY CONFIGURE TAKES 0 SECONDS. < 1308205904 111579 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, maybe delete ~/.cache in case you need to change something, is it? < 1308205923 303304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have a "town flush" command to wipe it out or something. < 1308205984 661661 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Uh, the appropriate values for that can change rather *often* based on environment. < 1308205989 957447 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like maybe a file in directory ~/.cache/towncache/* and then you can just delete it using "rm" command < 1308206003 845087 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And change the permissions in case you want to tell it not to use the cache. < 1308206004 24545 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is the reason that Autoconf never has enabled caching by default. < 1308206006 409034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How often will the appropriate C99 compiler change? < 1308206014 79836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How often will the appropriate commands to link to Qt change? < 1308206030 743241 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: any idea why the pl plugin of lambdabot would spam a bunch of assembler messages when I try to cabal install lambdabot? < 1308206040 83228 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I do it fairly often — I tend to test things with multiple compilers. < 1308206066 252535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Show paste. < 1308206068 67536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, but that won't affect the AUTOMATIC finding. < 1308206081 165035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: If you want to do that, you have to override it anyway, say with the CC variable, which should invoke special behaviour anyway. < 1308206090 623712 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked, in fact the LLVM binary file I downloaded seems to be the correct one, it has "include/llvm-c" and "lib/*.a" < 1308206109 36690 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not my paste, but it's the exact same problem: http://hpaste.org/46397/lambdabot_install_failure < 1308206117 61604 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you seriously overestimate how long this will actually take to execute. < 1308206129 656347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm not, but caching is a good idea /anyway/. < 1308206151 968764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Be like tup, consider insane scaling; what if the entirety of Chromium was one big Town project? < 1308206165 381411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Ask #haskell? < 1308206178 354983 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, okay. it's pretty odd. < 1308206184 907190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it is. < 1308206293 273207 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather, I think you seriously misjudge how much time in ./configure comes from its tests and how much come from how it's often *too much shell to fit in cache*. < 1308206318 864964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I realise it will be practically instant, I'm just saying that if you can cache, you should, especially because it _will_ help in certain cases. < 1308206431 477710 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would probably be a pain without doing a truly naive form of caching. < 1308206456 728410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Howso? < 1308206486 727303 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, serialising all of the cached solvers to file, thereby replacing the entire cache, and hence needing a lock on the cache. < 1308206513 998034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Personally, I see the inability to cache as a design flaw... < 1308206517 629458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, my other points are more important. < 1308206589 61198 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, caching can produce *wrong* builds. Consider the (retarded) case of LLVM (at least on Debian), where when the library gets upgraded, the actual *name of the .so* changes. < 1308206607 380957 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making it so that the cached output of llvm-config is wrong. < 1308206619 51918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah yeah yeah, my other points are more important :P < 1308206944 229342 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should also try and think of a better way of handling "Which group should I change the flags of ATM" for the solvers... < 1308206991 803534 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the moment, each solver just looks at the namespace its caller is in. < 1308207009 543858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Eh? < 1308207012 83094 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, though functioning with how I've got it set up right now, is not very clean at all. < 1308207015 560661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My method fixes all that. < 1308207024 519457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A solver doesn't just set something; it literally returns a function. < 1308207072 763034 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, duh, returning a function would help with that. < 1308207109 506637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Technically, it could return an integer; all "needs foo" has to do is do the solving magic for foo, and then bind foo to whatever the successful solver results in in the caller's environment. < 1308207138 823974 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm using the same solver scheme for libraries, though. < 1308207174 673835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And? < 1308207179 592155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The compiler handles libraries. < 1308207191 501567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can call out to a common library-finder that uses the solver routines if it so desires. < 1308207196 750757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: In fact, this actually helps: < 1308207219 964004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: A library solver that uses the technique "just link with an .so" would return the object (not function or set flags or anything) {link-with libname}. < 1308207228 993359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas a pkgconfig one may return {cflags-and-ldflags ... ...}. < 1308207243 979835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The library-finder would then pass this back to the C compiler using it, which would translate it into settings of variables in its local namespace. < 1308207246 348545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? Simple and elegant. < 1308207275 60448 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is absolutely elegant. < 1308207307 955411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lesson to be learned: MAKING THINGS FUNCTIONAL MAKES THEM BETTER ALWAYS < 1308207310 314599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAALWAYS < 1308207320 215604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVEN WHEN THE TASK IS "BE NON-FUNCTIONAL" < 1308207364 402348 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1308207397 646374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rly < 1308207413 105993 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1308207476 885395 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not. < 1308207492 72503 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think I am sure. < 1308207563 904622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: we can all learn from zzo38's wisdo < 1308207564 622238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1308207789 786403 :F!~f@pool-96-255-203-102.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are we talking about? < 1308207871 316340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you own that nick < 1308207877 446362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have to steal it < 1308207921 268593 :F!~f@pool-96-255-203-102.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I own it. < 1308207929 967898 :F!~f@pool-96-255-203-102.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have for years. < 1308207953 74127 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1308207966 362907 :PatashuPikachuRe!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1308208012 953311 :F!~f@pool-96-255-203-102.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time I sign on to freenode some punk has it and then has to be humiliated while I ghost and idenfity my nick back. < 1308208063 444509 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :F: there's an option to make NickServ throw them off automatically, i think < 1308208091 597914 :F!~f@pool-96-255-203-102.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? I'll have to check it out. < 1308208104 827859 :F!~f@pool-96-255-203-102.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here know Go or Perl6? < 1308208112 925691 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1308208172 172703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know some go, some perl6. < 1308208181 592902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought all one-letter names were reserved for staffers. < 1308208461 615684 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That option exists, yeah, that's why I'm always guestified when I get d/c'd and autorejoin :P < 1308208757 57406 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information from NS INFO doesn't match. < 1308208787 591186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noes F is an evil liar < 1308208826 429336 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1308208901 402442 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds NS INFO inconclusive on that matter < 1308208910 995656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o < 1308208912 89325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :r u sr < 1308208912 438286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1308208947 425122 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it doesn't give evidence any way, since the nick isn't currently identified < 1308208959 211582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you actually doubting e < 1308208959 731889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :em < 1308208978 588363 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1308209140 217094 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll bet if I updated my reverse DNS hostname to libdl.so, people would think there was something broken in Freenode's software ... < 1308209169 858981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no people would just point < 1308209170 648746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and laugh < 1308209174 196278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha this noob doesnt have libc.so < 1308209175 842210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is he, poor < 1308209180 188887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well < 1308209180 900618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we would < 1308209191 216621 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1308209211 779675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur just not bourgeois enough for us Gregor < 1308209228 865955 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I think your reverse DNS makes sense the way it is now, it doesn't need to be adjusted. < 1308209253 427824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is always the best place for technically correct, but useless statements < 1308209254 885720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, zzo38 < 1308209294 956394 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1308209371 539361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do we really need this with LLVM and GCC? < 1308209371 720531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean ... if it compiles 2% faster ony MY machine, would I really NEED it? < 1308209371 900169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want scripting languages to become super fast! < 1308209371 900368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about C++ ..." < 1308209804 237472 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolsy < 1308210179 210479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I failed at C++ Sudoku for the first time today :( < 1308210202 156801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not possible to create a boolean type such that "if (True)" works but "if (True && 9)" doesn't < 1308210203 240769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict < 1308210213 689886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With this despicable failure I am leaving you all to die < 1308210232 61758 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing if() doesn't take a boolean. < 1308210257 509596 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes a void*. < 1308210259 184923 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1308210454 942337 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet is always the best place for not technically correct, but useful statements. < 1308210493 837162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1308210496 300750 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq is the best place for statements. < 1308210558 463930 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :My incorrectness is the lifeblood of this channel. It fuels causality through its paradoxes. < 1308210623 814636 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flimble Nordic satisfaction greenly! < 1308210673 980086 :PatashuPikachuRe!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is C++ sudoku < 1308210681 844009 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, greenly is the mutt of the world set. < 1308210710 207745 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PatashuPikachuRe: No idea. < 1308210714 639560 :PatashuPikachuRe!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1308210715 884482 :PatashuPikachuRe!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1308210717 138952 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just know C++ far better than I should. < 1308210747 812698 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1308210760 755578 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have spent more time on COBOL. < 1308210811 372693 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1308210867 106831 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn COBOL for golfing... < 1308210888 445463 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh jesus. < 1308210927 546531 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only thing more verbose is good ol' ORK. < 1308210998 983027 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or java < 1308211037 1437 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no COBOL is more verbose. < 1308211045 661370 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Java is high up in the verbosity index. < 1308211049 350555 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or: "There is a mathematician called ORK. ORK's first operand is COBOL. ORK's second operand is 1. ORK is to add." < 1308211946 705491 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Quit: There is a ORK called ORK. Inside of the ORK there is a mathematician called ORK. Inside of the mathematician called ORK inside of the ORK there is not. < 1308212221 269053 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-98-247-234-176.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1308212468 304553 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1308212469 960377 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1295544154 < 1308212480 436790 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like :: Int32 -> IORef -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> < 1308212480 714188 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a - < 1308212480 894035 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a -> IO () < 1308212481 710920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `->' < 1308212500 382244 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i laughed at that so hard < 1308212835 703196 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how does lambdabot do the :t stuff < 1308212842 167437 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :mueval seems to lack that. < 1308212933 32094 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: I like how these guys don't know what they're talking about. < 1308212939 608699 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that makes me laugh. < 1308212943 186625 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing < 1308213082 271240 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1308213102 285433 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-234.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308213218 540118 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :map {sleep $_; print "$_\n"} @ARGV; < 1308213221 930348 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl wins again. < 1308213294 574535 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's not parallel, but who cares. :P that's not important. < 1308213299 233677 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has nothing to do with the algorithm at all. < 1308213303 160152 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all. < 1308213452 343658 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1308213461 698269 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that just sleep then print? < 1308213485 517688 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :for each argument in ARGV? < 1308213493 861571 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes, < 1308213495 61153 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1308213505 683582 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to fork too < 1308213507 413581 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, why < 1308213507 593257 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :dummy < 1308213509 804306 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ see insincerity above < 1308213515 403182 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :riiight < 1308213516 347787 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was copypasted from the thread. < 1308213525 56905 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what thread? I just joined! < 1308213531 571197 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET IN THE LOOP < 1308213534 186464 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1308213535 623435 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR, IN THIS CASE, THE THREAD. < 1308213539 173078 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR SOMETHING < 1308213542 620895 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA SEWING JOKES. < 1308213545 915603 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1295544154 < 1308213547 725533 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that? < 1308213551 544688 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1308213565 335650 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :4chan? programming? How horrible < 1308213602 868044 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like any anonymous board, you get all kinds of people. Some people are clueless, some people kind of no what they're talking about < 1308213605 866848 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the rest are trolls. < 1308213624 531975 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, in this case it seems to follow the spirit of this channel and of bogosort however < 1308213657 122298 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well to being with at least < 1308213732 888395 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1295544154/138 < 1308213737 888273 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is an actual Perl implementation. < 1308213743 213637 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks convincing anyways. < 1308213882 789375 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I'm pain-free most of the time. < 1308214104 878418 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice blog, bro < 1308214142 638518 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah any idea how lambdabot does :t? < 1308214161 446221 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it just have a Haskell interpreter built into it? Because I'd really like to have a command line utility for that. < 1308214172 641081 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, typechecker, in this case, not interpreter. < 1308214238 495039 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghci is a command line < 1308214287 179737 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. < 1308214293 885521 :evincar!~chatzilla@pool-64-223-165-190.man.east.myfairpoint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308214297 990428 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I guess I could use a pipe then. < 1308214301 607073 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do ghci ":t foo" I think < 1308214304 808517 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1308214307 565941 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, surely there must be a better way < 1308214322 766769 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm writing a bot and want to give it :t and mueval support. < 1308214332 942718 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :check lambdabot source? < 1308214336 286286 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo ":t id" | ghci < 1308214349 61467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_, I doubt that is what lambdabot does though < 1308214356 180246 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works. < 1308214371 867571 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, I guess there's no harm in evoking ghci each time. < 1308214388 339708 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fairly fast on my cluster < 1308214397 603208 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have ghci locally though < 1308214405 68281 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does give a lot of non-related output < 1308214407 563562 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmmm, I guess there's no harm in evoking ghci each time. <-- for me it takes a second or so to load. < 1308214409 982595 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, sometimes the lag is more than ghci starting up and dying < 1308214414 299608 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, lrn2grep < 1308214432 807393 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I can grep just fine, thanks. :P < 1308214456 917266 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :damian@dresscoded:~$ echo ":t id" | ghci | grep "^Prelude> " | grep -v "Leaving GHCi." < 1308214470 265990 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1308214482 384787 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah what's this grep magic you speak of. @_@ < 1308214487 335917 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, I think this is the module in question: http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/Plugin/Type.hs < 1308214487 765079 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a wizard? < 1308214493 134850 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am more than a wizard < 1308214499 5780 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the Red Wizard of the East < 1308214527 97210 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it what < 1308214557 110277 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it invokes ghci, though the comments says hugs... < 1308214564 173339 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo ":t id" | ghci -v0 < 1308214564 409266 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :id :: a -> a < 1308214565 363636 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some number of hours which is difficult to count due to loltimezones, I will be in Paris. < 1308214569 993220 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stripComments ('\n':_) = [] -- drop any newwline and rest. *security* < 1308214572 8004 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I r t3h l33t h4x < 1308214572 187491 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahah < 1308214590 619593 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, omg < 1308214593 814917 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :are YOU a wizard? < 1308214601 749729 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I just read man a lot. < 1308214609 746129 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, cool < 1308214622 573545 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, why are you going there? < 1308214632 902104 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chattin' up INRIA < 1308214641 928240 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, visit the polytechnique < 1308214655 711837 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, ah, what for? < 1308214657 545500 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :job? < 1308214671 955129 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Naw, I'm only there two weeks, just chattin' em up. < 1308214677 878338 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, huh < 1308214678 468336 :evincar!~chatzilla@pool-64-223-165-190.man.east.myfairpoint.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.17/20110422054610] < 1308214680 359023 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting a summer internship abroad = visa hell < 1308214714 197698 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WIN < 1308214718 702811 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc -e ":t id" < 1308214723 335757 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: Is that somewhere you ... visit? :P < 1308214727 409908 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not, y'know, study < 1308214727 997532 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, ah only for people in US I guess. I could do it since I already live in EU :D < 1308214735 769700 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet is OWNED < 1308214739 777863 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO BAD. < 1308214757 835256 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, nah.. never been to paris myself ^^ but it's definitely a great place to visit < 1308214766 903212 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that so much has happened for mathematics there < 1308214807 645120 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, where do you live normally? i forgot < 1308214812 427695 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't think the term "abroad" gets to be applied within EU countries anymore. < 1308214819 258297 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: I don't remember anymore :P < 1308214830 264600 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, zzz :P < 1308214835 309512 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: is that faster? < 1308214837 128635 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, hm < 1308214838 230385 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it germany or something? < 1308214848 589813 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, not even close. < 1308214849 55078 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, at over 9000x faster < 1308214857 133372 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, ex-ussr? < 1308214866 624413 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, you're only getting farther X-D < 1308214875 963267 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :scandinavia? < 1308214883 780749 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, Antarctica! < 1308214886 296349 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an American ya derpaderp < 1308214893 186689 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in Indiana :P < 1308214909 367813 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the world does not have a good bsp ok?? < 1308214911 143487 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, sure you don't live in Antarctica? < 1308214917 725237 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Not entirely! < 1308214920 426865 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1308214926 688445 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, i heard Gregor lives in Antarctica < 1308215016 917348 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stripComments ('\n':_) = [] -- drop any newwline and rest. *security* < 1308215019 467464 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1308216238 138162 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl @test=(1,2,3); print "@test" < 1308216240 611373 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 3 < 1308218124 893808 :blancnoir!blancnoir@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-zrnqocyuahyneicg JOIN :#esoteric < 1308218195 674509 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is either the worst pair of earphones I've ever worn, or merely the most finnicky. < 1308218198 161832 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect the former. < 1308218267 334580 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1308218457 19888 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-234.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1308218894 172142 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-174-217.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308218905 808724 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1308219097 660973 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1308219132 637582 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-234.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308221936 997802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308222030 320961 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :mueval is so much less awesome than lambdabot. < 1308223005 717683 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, what is mueval= < 1308223010 940962 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/=/?/ < 1308223174 672399 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a standalone version of what lambdabot uses to evaluate Haskell code, but it's nowhere near as awesome. < 1308223191 57655 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it doesn't have as many modules that it allows. < 1308223363 555051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : - Hardware accelerated 3D CSS < 1308223367 861342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, wow < 1308223373 906990 :ralc!~ralc@79.142.230.243.static.knet.bolignet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1308223381 62272 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, heh < 1308223685 288275 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-66.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308223689 684841 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-174-217.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1308224102 2588 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :return join ('\n', grep {defined} (split /\n/, shift)[(0..shift)-1]) < 1308224107 434816 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pinnacle of readability < 1308224301 51584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is pretty readable < 1308224316 789977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some Perl code that parsed VHDL using regexes last night, that was really unreadable < 1308224335 959037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's designed to parse only the output of a specific program, rather than VHDL in general, so regexing it isn't /too/ bad, and I was in a hurry) < 1308224354 691393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, which order are those shifts evaluated in? < 1308224363 445744 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1308224364 626016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever written shift twice in the same expression when it mattered < 1308224365 29247 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D CSS? < 1308224371 215851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I'm just quoting the changelog < 1308224374 94809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no more context than you do < 1308224410 196025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I quoted it because it seemed absurd < 1308224423 611543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what they might mean is that they're using the GPU in order to do CSS layout, which is plausible < 1308224427 937678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the 3D got in there by mistake < 1308224597 581656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps CSS really does do 3D nowadays < 1308224604 893783 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: interestingly enough, the index is evaluated first. < 1308224625 78317 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1308224633 886525 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the current code is 0..(shift) < 1308224637 333526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: that's not massively surprising given the way split is optimised < 1308224638 496902 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 < 1308224668 867698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you try to take the fifth element of a split, for instance, it stops splitting at five results < 1308224683 653730 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it makes sense to evaluate the indices first. < 1308224694 618081 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for built-in keyword optimization. < 1308224736 312548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what that function does, is returns up to the first n lines of a given string? < 1308224741 302429 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1308224750 812566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that's relatively readable, apart from the argument order thing < 1308224770 791269 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also changed it to grep {$_} < 1308224788 513374 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get rid of empty lines... and... lines with only 0, because that's how Perl rolls. :P < 1308224795 569489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now it returns up to the first n lines of a given string, except empty lines and lines containing just a zero < 1308224798 786314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you beat me < 1308224812 668954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use grep{/./} if you just wanted to get rid of empty lines < 1308224827 936892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I don't even think you need the braces if you have a regex as argument < 1308224831 172900 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1308224831 954089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although arguably they're good style < 1308224853 564075 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say they are arguably irrelevant to good style in Perl. :D < 1308224874 454775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't, I've been in some pretty heavily style-guidelined Perl projects < 1308224912 509776 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'd keep the braces if I change, simply because I don't want to add a comma and possibly parens if it becomes ambiguous at that point. < 1308224975 915920 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be interesting if join could take a regex argument... < 1308224981 192754 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1308224983 359217 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense. :P < 1308225002 830169 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's getting early here. almost 8 am < 1308225011 840953 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1308225057 505686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be great if you could do join /\1\2/, split /-(.)-(.)-/ $string; < 1308225065 671010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's potentially meaningful, at least < 1308225076 10615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure it's useful, and would also change the semantics of enclosing groups in a split < 1308225096 844618 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'd have to use $1 and $2 instead of \ < 1308225107 926031 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. < 1308225108 492003 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1308225115 439896 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would just have to be some weird special case. < 1308225130 38897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right, it should be $1 and $2 per Perl conventions for replacements < 1308225147 304841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but obviously it's a ridiculous weird special case < 1308225166 869554 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that on the last match possibly. < 1308225172 40289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays, I mostly use NEU or ARC when playing online < 1308225175 234553 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if split regexes capture < 1308225176 853811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, sorry, wrong channel < 1308225223 24643 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1295544154 xD < 1308225238 372129 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-184-214.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308225238 372366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: I'm not following links to 4chan no matter how relevant they are < 1308225244 229121 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1308225251 709403 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-66.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1308225262 223449 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone came up with sorting this way: take each number on the list and launch a thread that sleeps for this many seconds. < 1308225274 774912 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it prints the number. < 1308225286 90411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1308225295 183407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a variant on one of the established techniques < 1308225298 42056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :radix sort, probably < 1308225302 509008 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1308225314 667881 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that WAS actually mentioned there < 1308225317 554247 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost subject to all kinds of scheduling problems. :P < 1308225323 81039 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is also mentioned. < 1308225331 27269 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it was all mentioned < 1308225335 316069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :among other things, 4chan links go invalid really quickly < 1308225336 11179 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the numbers are near one another. < 1308225338 687692 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was even an ascii art of a flaccid penis < 1308225345 572636 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, this one's on the bbs, it's archived < 1308225350 332411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1308225818 342025 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :< ksf> the actual ingenuity of sleepsort is realising that a complexity theorist's mind will asplode while trying to decide whether sleep(n) is O(1) or O(n). < 1308225821 877345 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...in #haskell < 1308225830 893616 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't find anyone else talking about sleepsort, but there it was randomly. < 1308225840 350485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: O(n), obviously < 1308225847 899090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty much literally O(n) < 1308225886 101450 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes... < 1308225898 218845 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was noting the strange coincidence. < 1308225913 207255 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :of subject matter. < 1308225962 235786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the link's been posted to proggit < 1308225967 335126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lots of people read that < 1308225973 366174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's probably going to spread through IRC based on that < 1308226020 663639 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you divide the numbers first before you sort you can cut down on the computation time < 1308226038 335285 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the same time you're increasing the likelihood of a scheduling misshap < 1308226658 235721 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google is trying very hard to find all the most annoying ways to give you free wifi. < 1308226728 504174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: reddit points out that it's O(n log n), because the sorting is done by the scheduler < 1308227128 867670 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1308227138 384537 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let e = exp 1 < 1308227139 392693 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1308227991 663762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1308229444 995750 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Google is trying very hard to find all the most annoying ways to give you free wifi. <-- how so? < 1308229493 560944 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> e < 1308229494 382360 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous occurrence `e' < 1308229494 561901 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : It could refer to either `L.e', defined at L.e < 1308229501 562002 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.718281828459045 < 1308229511 299408 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pi < 1308229512 65801 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.141592653589793 < 1308229521 660495 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> lambertw 1 < 1308229522 460793 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `lambertw' < 1308229529 289704 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's my lambert w function :( < 1308230432 291653 :Big_!~big@adsl196-40-199-206-196.adsl196-7.iam.net.ma JOIN :#esoteric < 1308230452 876809 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t e < 1308230453 703033 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous occurrence `e' < 1308230453 883683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : It could refer to either `L.e', defined at :17:0 < 1308230454 63504 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : or `SimpleReflect.e', imported from SimpleReflect at State/L.hs:74:0-32 < 1308230456 807624 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1308230550 958929 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308230560 32497 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am developing < 1308230567 323636 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a python to brainfuck converter < 1308230567 503359 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why on earth does mueval give me "Exception: not a number" when I try to eval ['a'..'z'] < 1308230577 439563 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :dell: ......good luck with that. < 1308230602 794293 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think....i will continue only if someone already hasn't done it < 1308230617 721755 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of any such thing. < 1308230624 743218 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :dell, good luck. < 1308230633 791196 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python is the last language you want to try that with. < 1308230634 641804 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust me. < 1308230654 36016 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok..then i will continue...its gonna be hell of a thing but it will be open source and written in python < 1308230662 968306 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, that is trivial. There is a C->JavaScript compiler, so just write a JS->BF compiler then embed cpython compiled to js + your python script in that < 1308230663 148039 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will post about it more here < 1308230666 457691 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :def func(i): < 1308230669 204069 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1308230669 383766 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric : return i*2 < 1308230673 934153 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :map(i,range(50)) < 1308230681 702874 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll applaud you if you manage to compile something as simple as that. < 1308230682 195142 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1308230698 540461 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will not support all the python features...the first version will be pretty simple < 1308230705 497870 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ah, so simple. < 1308230706 760682 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, what about using cython + LLVM + custom LLVM->BF backend < 1308230712 5479 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :s//func/ < 1308230716 781042 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/i/func/* < 1308230731 987563 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1308230732 956590 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol I was like "...you want me to put an infinite number of funcs between each character?" < 1308230734 14009 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, that's downright insane. < 1308230734 750147 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1308230748 393438 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, ais's half-complete bf gcc backend < 1308230751 785991 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :complete that < 1308230755 295939 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use that with cython < 1308230770 906072 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, even easier < 1308230773 165458 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I know it's possible. < 1308230783 295547 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's going to be hard unless done right. < 1308230791 324605 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :This guy gives me a certain vibe. < 1308230797 858650 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1308230803 244380 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i will create a repository on git and will let ya people know more about it < 1308230819 883996 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, yeah I see what you mean... "on git" < 1308230828 878613 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh github?) < 1308230832 878721 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :on* < 1308230836 77236 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :github < 1308230841 990300 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a little lazy < 1308230967 83982 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, anyway, llvm->bf would be interesting < 1308231011 474220 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, sounds like it might be a little hard, but doable. < 1308231017 757178 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we have any higher level languages compiling to BF? < 1308231041 699049 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be a large part of the problem already solved. < 1308231069 770876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few, there is BASIC->BF iirc, that was used for lostking.b, but I never seen the actual compiler in question < 1308231073 444691 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did a bad job too < 1308231082 37644 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a bit of dead code in there < 1308231129 717547 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, how can you compile goto? < 1308231133 802438 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, and the gcc backend kind of works for trivial examples, but produced so huge results it is not practically usable without a special cased interpreter < 1308231142 664219 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Line counter? < 1308231144 381655 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, a while loop with switches inside? < 1308231156 213543 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, sounds possible. < 1308231165 881718 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, and I don't know the details of the basic->bf one < 1308231174 553462 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said, I never seen it < 1308231181 590500 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, hmm.. < 1308231183 7635 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually. < 1308231198 436855 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck by default uses 0-255 range, right? < 1308231213 393148 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the most common way < 1308231224 224 :dell!~dell@117.201.57.219 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1308231244 737882 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking there could be a basic intermediate language which (unsafely) compiles to Brainfuck code. < 1308231270 893345 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc gcc-bf used a bf assembler thingy < 1308231280 300323 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :A simple extension that has more than one tape, switchable with some command, and turns 8-bit brainfuck to 32-bit brainfuck. < 1308231289 674167 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :with opcodes like "mul8 offsetA,offsetB < 1308231290 612188 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1308231293 126159 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1308231301 973487 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, sounds "fun" < 1308231347 870085 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, iirc it used a pattern on the data like 5 cells: marker,memory,memory,memory,scratch,scratch < 1308231353 706071 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1308231508 703614 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1308231531 9128 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1308231576 369359 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1308231592 317836 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could you design an esolang API that supports as many different esolangs as possible. < 1308231616 441065 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1308231619 237212 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(guests) < 1308231784 751189 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-184-214.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1308231794 488541 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-216-212.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308231808 270880 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick QUIT :Client Quit < 1308231826 751244 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1308231958 247840 :Big_!~big@adsl196-40-199-206-196.adsl196-7.iam.net.ma PART :#esoteric < 1308231994 616629 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ That guy tried to randomly flirt with me < 1308232008 227928 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :May I suggest making sure he doesn't come back? < 1308232613 168540 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1308233315 779660 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he messaged me randomly too < 1308233660 297137 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess that's why +g exists < 1308233706 43416 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is that again? < 1308233769 104327 :myndzi!myndzi@98.247.234.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308233788 445290 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i once tried messaging you and you freaked out. And I had no intention of flirting. So I can't help but give him the benefit of a doubt < 1308234104 70022 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite unambiguous when they open the message with "Hey baby" < 1308234194 888565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :an inauspicious start, i must agree < 1308234254 962915 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, 99% of the people I don't know messaging me, yeah. < 1308234264 856717 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1308234627 634663 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1308234657 691086 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1308235081 663344 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1308235944 462565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gather you are female. i was not aware of this. must be nice to not be a douchebag. < 1308236185 607273 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1308236186 140430 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1308236186 320013 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1308236369 940089 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1308236370 329550 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1308236382 938078 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, what is that supposed to mean? < 1308236789 659092 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1308237906 205001 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1308237906 719488 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1308237906 899244 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1308238021 634004 :DocHerrings!~DocHerrin@pool-71-246-72-142.bltmmd.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308238101 779635 :DocHerrings!~DocHerrin@pool-71-246-72-142.bltmmd.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost have a working interpreter for eodermdrom, in case anyone cares. < 1308238126 424704 :DocHerrings!~DocHerrin@pool-71-246-72-142.bltmmd.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Eodermdrome < 1308238301 16373 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1308238569 121275 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-234.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1308239093 845914 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1308239446 386587 :DocHerrings!~DocHerrin@pool-71-246-72-142.bltmmd.east.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 4.0.1/20110413222027] < 1308239945 411585 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan NICK :Cirno-chan < 1308240139 838878 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308240262 689619 :Cirno-chan!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan NICK :Lymia < 1308241404 194014 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-145-40.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308241434 363087 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-216-212.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1308242387 822335 :zaildar!~WWW_SANDH@2002:1b38:9003::1b38:9003 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308242393 671387 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308243095 68108 :zaildar!~WWW_SANDH@2002:1b38:9003::1b38:9003 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1308243133 102011 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1308244743 991724 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: it means that all guys are douchebags < 1308244774 438439 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, that's not true at all. < 1308244774 833055 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::c < 1308244794 485855 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it is quite true that society seems to expect, and to some degree enforce that....... < 1308244830 58935 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308244844 485994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a female in this society, you should behave as if it were true. guilty until proven innocent as it were. < 1308245059 529599 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more fun to assume the other way. < 1308245059 976823 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1308245240 356561 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so < 1308245289 668843 :dell!~dell@117.201.52.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308245433 375711 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life isn't fun if you go around assuming all X are Y. < 1308245783 43178 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do believe in this case that at least 75% of X are Y due to previously mentioned societal pressure, therefore the fun you are referring to can only be of the "omg, i didn't expect you to be a douchebag too, you asshole!" type. < 1308245793 412093 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, on that note, nobody "should" X because they're female, or male, or anything. < 1308245820 914502 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't say things like that. It makes you look like an asshole yourself. < 1308245837 958332 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am. i am a guy, and all guys are douchebags < 1308245868 12459 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disproof by example is fun, eh? < 1308245890 719796 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i agree that a perfect society wouldn't have the need for any assumptions along gender, racial, or economical lines < 1308245891 722050 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try not to be. Although I guess sometimes I have been. I don't try to be actively malicious though. < 1308245906 686817 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe most people are outright hateful or malicious. < 1308245951 171988 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to be malicious to be a douchebag < 1308245962 856591 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, most douchebaggery is not malicious in origin < 1308245970 121864 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just unthinking socialization < 1308245992 62345 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not.. really the kind of douchebaggery I've done, I think < 1308245995 640520 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, and that's something you can talk to people about and expect success at. < 1308246031 79782 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes of course < 1308246050 565396 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why it's useful also for guys in this society to internalize "all guys are douchebags, even me" < 1308246064 213908 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes it a lot easier to recognize that tendency and pressure < 1308246082 475305 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, how about this. < 1308246165 690339 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we have to stereotype people? Like it or not, if you keep saying that, you're not helping the problem, right? < 1308246230 275635 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why all the serious discussion? it's not befitting of #esoteric < 1308246245 946326 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it better to consciously or subconsciously apply a stereotype? The media, whether you like it or not, encourages the latter. The only way to fight it is to label it and bring it right out in the open. < 1308246263 666083 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry olsner. nothing else was going on... < 1308246295 810810 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, neither. < 1308246340 754846 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not an option at the moment. it's a goal for the future < 1308246360 161591 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's best to not apply a stereotype to people or yourself at all. < 1308246365 723531 :dell!~dell@117.201.52.47 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1308246457 183172 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it's impossible to apply a negative stereotype to yourself and still remain sane. the cognitive dissonance is too strong. trying and failing to do so gives the insight one needs to see that stereotypes are never completely accurate when applied to individuals. < 1308246545 235109 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen more than a few people use those stereotypes as excuses for their behavior. < 1308246702 325542 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean they completely let themselves off the hook? They have no desire to improve? < 1308246782 980403 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :See: "Boys will be boys" and any variations on that. < 1308246848 606540 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only ever seen that used by someone forgiving someone else for something < 1308246911 507811 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do we stand to gain from stereotyping others? < 1308246924 212795 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :One'd think that you'd correct negative behavior in yourself by listening to others when they call you out on it. < 1308246981 376283 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an easy one < 1308247003 789093 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you would, wouldn't you < 1308247015 660640 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe the world isn't a hugbox < 1308247040 400644 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what you said is such an overt simplification of the human psyche that there's no way to begin describing how disconnected from reality it is < 1308247046 469433 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the stereotype reflects a set of behaviors that actually do occur in the real world, a stereotype is a simple rule whereby one can protect oneself < 1308247050 243812 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just maybe. < 1308247106 172433 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_, to whom exactly are you directing that? < 1308247112 815761 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1308247136 757125 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to be a better person, why don't you take it into consideration when somebody calls you out on something? < 1308247148 202852 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mu < 1308247185 885806 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you referring to then? < 1308247240 149197 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :your reasoning and acting based upon your own simplification of reality whereby you unknowingly give yourself a kick in the ass. < 1308247262 769079 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of my point though. everyone knows that it's bad to be a douchebag. if someone calls you a douchebag, how can you just say "yeah, i am, aren't i? that's just who i am. deal with it." when everything you hear is "no one likes to hang around douchebags"? < 1308247311 767561 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got no problems saying that if the person calling me out has no moral ground to call me out. < 1308247340 986722 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_, so far you havn't made any concrete arguments other than "you're wrong" < 1308247347 554584 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be more interesting if you did that. < 1308247373 817460 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't, have i? that's just the way it is. < 1308247408 223515 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1308247489 874143 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe i have, you just asserted otherwise for sake of argument) < 1308247529 903208 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: but would you, in saying that, actually believe it to be the truth? or would you just be saying it as a way to piss off someone you don't respect? < 1308247552 66314 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't go out of my way to anger people. < 1308247567 176628 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really answering the question < 1308247601 528111 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you ever say "yes, i am a douchebag," accept that as truth, then do nothing about it? < 1308247602 49416 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would normally not act upon an impulse to annoy someone because it is not there. < 1308247624 607987 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can say that and accept it as someone's truth without accepting it as your own truth. < 1308247645 370622 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world isn't a maths book, people have different opinions, you know? < 1308247654 590227 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1308247692 156488 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone thinks i'm a douchebag because he e.g. thinks i should accomodate him in ways i am not morally required to and i don't, then he's free to have this opinion < 1308247709 769000 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: That's what's happening with your people excusing themselves with stereotypes. They aren't accepting the stereotypes as truth about themselves. < 1308247715 489463 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hey, give me ten dollars" "no" "you're a douchebag" "i am, aren't i?" < 1308247798 794340 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last sentence is not an attempt at annoying someone, it's just a dismissive required to cleanse your psyche of someone's judgement that you find unjust. < 1308247864 129528 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way, you're not accepting and believing and internalizing that you are a douchebag < 1308247884 511915 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1308247895 835336 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i went silent i probably would, though < 1308247907 725312 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, you'd apologize and seek to change your ways, so as not to be rejected by society < 1308247909 223083 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_, "listen to" means to take another's objection into consideration. < 1308247910 524834 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the way our psychology works < 1308247923 402488 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i took his objection into consideration < 1308247930 13329 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i considered it to be worth a pile of dog shit < 1308247955 372700 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people don't have anything interesting to say, that's a fact of life < 1308248211 766972 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that one i can't agree with it < 1308248243 640489 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather say people are societally inhibited from saying the truly interesting things < 1308248300 932682 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :peoplke have stories and people know things they can't talk about < 1308248326 204396 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a long time to gain the confidence to hear the interesting things < 1308248383 463516 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are setting the bar very low < 1308248386 604814 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could be said that it's an issue of perceived cause and effect. Is it because only really befriend people who have interesting things to say, or is it that they say those things because you've befriended them. < 1308248434 888315 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally think it's the latter-- I do believe it's usually considered creepy when people sprout off in detail about their life to a stranger. < 1308248502 848622 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1308248528 954726 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, so I'm creepy? < 1308248530 234615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1308248577 543943 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever listened to yourself talk about yourself < 1308248581 1625 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tylenol and friends < 1308248711 77283 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, on the issue of stereotypes, after some thought, I think that the problem isn't just that the stereotypes exist. It's that part of the stereotype is that people are that way naturally, and it's only going to hurt you to try to change, etc. < 1308248801 655213 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think units 1/4736286.72 inch are enough accuracy for all printers and more? < 1308248851 802182 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what's standard? < 1308248866 309628 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: Standard what? < 1308248877 234506 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :DPI/accuracy/whatever. < 1308248888 661761 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, on that note, is that per square inch? < 1308248905 820745 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Some printers have 600 DPI, but some are more resolution than that. < 1308248924 924222 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite sure that resolution implies 22432411894048.3584 DPI, unless it's per square inch. < 1308248957 565130 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: That is not square inch. What I mean is 1/4736286.72 inch is the smallest unit that can be represented and used in calculations, even if no printer can do this resolution. < 1308249048 821065 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it's more than enough accuracy. < 1308249050 532298 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1308249139 719846 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the units used in TeX, which is an old program. FreeType does not support this much accuracy as far as I know! < 1308249190 204857 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a strange number < 1308249199 454646 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And for TeXnicard, a new program, which uses the same units) < 1308249236 885568 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The reason for that number is there is 72.27 points in one inch, and 65536 scaled points in one point (that is the accuracy of the fractional calculations), now it is less strange isn't it? < 1308249424 908370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1308249469 300860 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this way it makes sense, At least to me it make sense < 1308249492 19563 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why are there 72.27 points in one inch? < 1308249574 1680 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking that he means that there are 72.27 points in a square inch. < 1308249581 400314 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is how traditional typesetting was designed; there must be some reason having to do with some things that I do not know about, but were important in old typesetting < 1308249586 637937 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, it's likely a unit based on the meter or something. Dunno. < 1308249590 487707 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: No, nothing to do with square inches < 1308249613 472876 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, then that implies a resolution that cannot be stored in memory sanely. < 1308249716 162123 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it works very well. Especially since no printers have a resolution that much! < 1308249779 930007 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: in other words, no printer is every asked to print a different random bit at every single point < 1308249832 601083 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although 5223 bits per square inch isn't so impossible) < 1308249853 239766 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1308249854 723865 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1308249863 185480 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, if 72.27 points is how it's scaled, sure. < 1308249872 481992 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why is there such a strange limit. < 1308249892 759867 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're just using the wrong inch < 1308249949 418483 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong inch? < 1308249972 174457 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The limit is not seem strange to me. < 1308250158 29362 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-184.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308250194 803764 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-145-40.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1308251480 248076 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-144-97.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308251661 856302 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-184.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1308252704 837169 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1308252714 246658 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can I do with a 5 or 6 year old laptop? < 1308252729 266947 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone on Facebook wants to get rid of hers, meaning I could have it for free < 1308252736 843664 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It doesn't have a hard drive) < 1308252773 540372 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install a hard drive and install DOS < 1308252786 263870 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or learn to invent your own operating system) < 1308254030 120265 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf at this config file, it is like a mix of CPP and XML! < 1308254071 856386 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: neat! < 1308254088 52010 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, in fact it isn't either, but the result is like that < 1308254094 703028 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hmm < 1308254122 89086 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :xcppml is something the world has long needed < 1308254144 269860 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anyone laughing yet? < 1308254172 112108 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: nope < 1308254179 485214 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, no I'm depressed. Because I have to figure out this config file, which also uses mixed indention style... < 1308254301 453846 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh swap trashing now < 1308254303 380202 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1308254338 852901 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you don't have enough memory to do that < 1308254344 271492 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1308254349 729400 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing is, I didn't do anything < 1308254361 932813 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1308254365 9026 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you need more memory to do nothing < 1308254368 206220 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1308254370 283398 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :start doing something and it will stop < 1308254468 934795 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1308254512 156200 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :The names of the joysticks are: < 1308254512 335857 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : ThinkPad HDAPS joystick emulation < 1308254512 336034 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :axes: 2 buttons: 0 hats: 0 < 1308254512 336142 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : ThinkPad HDAPS accelerometer data < 1308254512 336249 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :axes: 2 buttons: 0 hats: 0 < 1308254513 134647 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Saitek Saitek X52 Pro Flight Control System < 1308254515 137057 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :axes: 11 buttons: 39 hats: 0 < 1308254519 167453 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1308254521 149166 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why it fucks up < 1308254533 391223 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is trying to use the accelerometer as my joystick < 1308254543 332865 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :now how to avoid it... < 1308254551 372710 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the problem is that you have no hats < 1308254559 427 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, heh < 1308254618 191723 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense. i've not heard of gregor complaining about such a problem < 1308254627 809591 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, he probably has no joysticks < 1308254628 589658 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1308254634 966959 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the one he was born with < 1308256287 940982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308256300 563633 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god that was awful. < 1308256300 797669 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 4 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1308256825 754419 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1308256877 685525 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, home internet connection was lost completely. < 1308257275 109893 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308257313 933516 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am really disappointed that I read that Homestuck update on a school computer through a proxy without Flash. < 1308257321 53956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It completely ruined the effect. < 1308257406 496241 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: any news from FIS? < 1308257414 428682 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1308257415 885715 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIS? < 1308257422 471764 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, the BANCstar people. < 1308257437 169317 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumed to be the BANCstar people < 1308257461 71367 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ding-dong < 1308258695 429111 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1308259119 526096 :foocraft!~ewanas@dyn-86-36-35-124.qatar.cmu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1308259376 276441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone tell me why gdocs sucks so much? < 1308259473 505957 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1308259477 858245 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500f4b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does? < 1308259571 184959 :cheater_!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-22-157.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1308260358 925339 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1308260822 365461 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a LLVM program work with gdb? < 1308260925 212340 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBS < 1308261203 87046 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1308261321 500160 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Vancouver: Riots after Canucks' Stanley Cup defeat" < 1308261324 407762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1308261331 819630 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like football but worse. < 1308261336 320766 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, comment! < 1308261426 416779 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canucks always loses as far as I know. < 1308261445 935883 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what someone told me. < 1308261733 23084 :Adamfyre!~Android@193.sub-174-253-213.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1308262189 70054 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308262228 473522 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1308262686 72025 :Adamfyre!~Android@193.sub-174-253-213.myvzw.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1308262698 958108 :Adamfyre!~Android@174-24-204-215.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308262857 263488 :Adamfyre!~Android@174-24-204-215.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1308263422 660050 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-144-97.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is 16:30, and I am just now getting caffeine. < 1308263444 862292 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1308263449 770824 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is definitely 18:30 < 1308263550 373655 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-144-97.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:32 UTC-7, happy? < 1308264250 525478 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-144-97.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1308264261 317758 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-250-100.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308264640 636555 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my country is too busy worrying about the dicks of politicians to mention riots in Canada much. < 1308264678 76445 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1308264678 510531 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1308264678 690302 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1308264740 633022 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-250-100.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, we're more phallus-obsessed than Freud ever was. < 1308264851 832170 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1308266435 248168 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1308266537 747213 :foocraft!~ewanas@dyn-86-36-35-124.qatar.cmu.edu QUIT :Quit: if you're going....to san. fran. cisco!!! < 1308266607 536423 :augur_!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1308266614 371593 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1308266778 680071 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-253-212.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308266917 69705 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-250-100.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1308267133 138820 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db43990.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1308267685 592043 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1308268062 880558 :augur_!~augur@208.58.6.161 NICK :augur