< 1314316800 488361 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if I only took the 1-gram set I could generate 2-grams and 3-grams from those. < 1314316806 422690 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(total-counts file of unigrams for "English") < 1314316808 406962 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just use the 3-gram set < 1314316818 14196 :hagb4rd!4d0b684a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.104.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314316819 353308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: There's also that "one million" dataset. < 1314316821 825509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : well if I only took the 1-gram set I could generate 2-grams and 3-grams from those. < 1314316824 795702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, I don't think so. < 1314316845 909660 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do letter bi/trigrams, yes, you can generate them from word-unigrams, when modeling a single word. < 1314316850 906433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, right. < 1314316859 975565 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word-trigram set is pretty useless in that case. < 1314316861 38861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/share/dict/words would do just as well though, surely. < 1314316895 508669 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOPE NEEDS MOAR DATA. < 1314316914 572191 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The web dataset was built over 1 trillion "words" (it's a bit messy) of random Internet pages, I believe. < 1314316922 581131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More obscure and therefore probably less familiar-looking data? < 1314316936 210577 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the wlanguage-insane would be enough < 1314316947 866104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314316966 40613 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not necessarily looking for familiar-looking acronyms. < 1314316968 415755 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ldc.upenn.edu/Catalog/CatalogEntry.jsp?catalogId=LDC2006T13 < 1314316975 408933 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$150 for non-members. < 1314316987 21427 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you'll get the shiny DVDs. :p < 1314317002 995656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is that of the web corpus? < 1314317004 716254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worpus. < 1314317006 966191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hunt the Worpus. < 1314317009 346272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed it is. < 1314317012 934617 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1314317021 913544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of DVD is it? < 1314317024 358123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. capacity. < 1314317029 503145 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for mad overkill I could interpolate the non-duplicate occurences of words in both the insane language dictionaries and google data. < 1314317066 935206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Also what are the chances of you putting them up on a torrent tracker. :p < 1314317076 958845 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very zero. :p < 1314317080 26444 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has about 13.5 million unique "words" of "English". < 1314317096 654863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : What kind of DVD is it? < 1314317096 987470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : i.e. capacity. < 1314317109 356783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Also it doesn't really matter how real the words are with chains that long. :p < 1314317142 69880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :File sizes: approx. 24 GB compressed (gzip'ed) text files < 1314317142 586920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1314317142 658362 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.4G says du -h. < 1314317157 257039 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For DVD1.) < 1314317157 543544 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the google data would also allow my acronym generator to take year filters. < 1314317173 252790 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, if you're into that thing. < 1314317173 325046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I can't help but think that any Markov algorithm running on the data would be... how do I put it... slow. < 1314317181 736291 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the book data is fancy that way. < 1314317205 634180 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nah I'm using Perl it'll be fine. < 1314317224 454726 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Dumped into PostgreSQL, I think it took a second or three per query (i.e. to sample one new word). < 1314317230 301105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (It'd be nice to do the MegaHAL-style backwards-from-query and forwards-from-query stuff so you can answer questions with THE INTERNET on IRC.) < 1314317235 875450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well PostgreSQL is not very optimised. < 1314317237 985063 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically my "markov" chain will be hash tables. < 1314317249 120567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you use one of those fancy short-English-text-optimised compression things? < 1314317251 161080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloom filters?? < 1314317251 495437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help. < 1314317299 464564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: help. < 1314317304 496876 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can arrange them into a reversed-context tree, that makes the sampling fast. It's what fungot does. < 1314317304 663984 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: only one place can sit one rnd first < 1314317337 201247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Like, a hash table of most recent word to (a hash table of second-most recent word to ...)? < 1314317344 734690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just... a trie. < 1314317351 406375 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the acronym generating data structure will basically be Ngram -> (Char -> Frequency) < 1314317356 846001 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :where -> is a hash table. < 1314317368 37847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Yes, that's going to be so awfully "efficient" with gigabytes of data. < 1314317406 990834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, dear, that 24 GB figure is gzipped. < 1314317415 27712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That means it's probably ten terabytes unzipped. < 1314317415 192645 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically all unigrams to root node, all bigrams starting with "foo" to /foo, all trigrams starting with "bar foo" to /foo/bar; then you can just walk backwards in your current context + the tree, and when reaching a leaf use that node's wordlist to generate the next word (or backoff). < 1314317446 7102 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a bit less than a terabyte in Postgres, IIRC. < 1314317464 138868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But I don't have a disk that big. :( < 1314317479 798936 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what are you going to use this data for? < 1314317480 55859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I suppose I could plug in an external drive, but that'd be laughably slow. < 1314317489 977748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: An IRC bot to answer questions and babble, duh. < 1314317506 792859 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be good < 1314317518 247865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Well, I mean, I'd like it to be good. < 1314317551 107577 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book dataset could be more reasonable, not to mention more book-learned. Plus, as mentioned, you could tell it to sound like someone who lived e.g. in the 1920s. < 1314317566 667372 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming they have enough books from each period, anyway. < 1314317577 594945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeeeees, but that's a much less interesting engineering challenge. < 1314317595 51540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't suppose the books n-gram data includes punctuation. < 1314317717 695761 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't looked. The web-data does. < 1314317786 845552 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"argle, bargle" seems to have been turned into three tokens <,> for the web. < 1314317793 406852 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1314317804 546259 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've probably also filtered it somewhat. < 1314317820 205181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1314317830 243094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be nice to get open and close quotes separately. :p < 1314317835 983022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least space-quote differentiated from quote-space. < 1314317905 855936 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some sort of a regex-driven guesswork for that in fungot's preprocessing script, generates different tokens (POQUOT and PCQUOT or something) for them. < 1314317905 967900 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it in raffle city got mac meh? ya i'm also came to just saw ur msg only lol... after is everything wen v miss something ". real value. create a contact on indyarocks.com < 1314317909 576617 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the data contained all punctuation then a close quote would be preceded by [,.!?] < 1314317921 916085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How does it do the guesstimationeration? < 1314317924 410235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that from raw data? < 1314317934 512883 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from raw data, yes. < 1314317961 901452 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't preprocess-fake an already ngrammized data like the Goggel stuff. < 1314317962 69491 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1314317962 736271 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1314318011 308860 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graa, I'll the sleep now. It's 3-and-a-half hours to wakeup time. < 1314318021 646743 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314318080 87535 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp what's fastest way to download all of the 1-gram data for every language on this page < 1314318096 915609 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget? < 1314318134 158092 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have some kind of URL regex option? < 1314318241 931159 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :searching for the term regex in its man page yielded nothing. < 1314318283 284081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regexps: The only way to do anything. < 1314318283 539101 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nevermind I found it. < 1314318286 422332 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's smart enough to know what urls are valid < 1314318286 935805 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1314318296 291116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : It can't preprocess-fake an already ngrammized data like the Goggel stuff. < 1314318297 903606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Right. :( < 1314318319 181490 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regexps: probably the best way to filter only the URLs I want in this case < 1314318345 482379 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's more like sh wildcard stuff and not regex. < 1314318351 361428 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work fine < 1314318472 892555 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea what "english 1 million" is? < 1314318562 675653 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314318661 615759 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably either "English with just 1 million most common words", or "English from 1 million words of text"; former sounds more likely. < 1314318676 140733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Good slepping. < 1314318684 608998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But, um, BLOOM FILTERS < 1314318688 507730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOLUTION TO ALL MARKVS??? < 1314318690 339948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXPERTS SAYS YES < 1314318724 60360 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314318745 218163 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1314318746 656237 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1314318793 235631 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one of us did you expect to give you a directory listing? < 1314318793 346248 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1314318825 519241 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not immediately clear on how probabilistic set-membership-testing would help all that much. < 1314318832 849365 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that Israeli DST is neither deterministic nor algorithmic. < 1314318844 839851 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: the lines following http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2011-08-25#103037Patashu for my response to what you were saying about whatever last night < 1314318898 629136 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the real sleep. (I just took a quick shower there, that's why still awake.) < 1314318910 416911 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DST in Israel is determined by whatever their legislature declares that year. < 1314318927 64411 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: in short, using good judgment when picking names is better than just sticking to well-established notation/whatever < 1314318931 418180 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means that there must always be at least one tzdata update a year. < 1314318941 698044 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I agree. < 1314318962 512262 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good judgement includes genre awareness, that's all. < 1314319023 406798 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :consistency, clarity, and brevity are good too < 1314319023 731279 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :weee wget < 1314319071 232301 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: What have you wgotten? < 1314319191 659019 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this still about acronyms or have you moved onto more grand (general term for whatever you're doing)s < 1314319198 474373 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things < 1314319201 596238 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the 1-gram data from http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/datasets < 1314319202 139415 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that works, right?) < 1314319292 67388 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: I'm still working on the acronym generator. < 1314319298 619782 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has some kind of bot in mind. < 1314319331 837512 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bluh. English orthography isn't exactly ideal for this sort of thing. < 1314319340 658239 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :english orthography is awful < 1314319361 593053 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But as long as we all agree on it, it serves. < 1314319372 204522 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, apart from color/colour etc.) < 1314319373 338432 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl %x = (); $x{a}++; print %x < 1314319375 912021 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :a1 < 1314319379 564456 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im disagree 100% < 1314319387 904780 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looka t me go < 1314319469 462072 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I should base my frequency data on the page/volume count < 1314319489 138572 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My language continues to evolve. < 1314319509 269793 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided it would be nice to have a non-TC language for making families of stack combinators. < 1314319518 896822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1314319568 889412 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack combinators are like rot, dup etc? < 1314319580 521243 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1314319594 490454 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wgerman-medical < 1314319617 93071 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION downloads everything
< 1314319618 545242 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But rather than specifying dup1, dup2, dup3, you can just specify dupn. < 1314319634 782418 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like arbitrary implementation-defined limits on things. < 1314319646 737570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you use more than dup2 ever you're doing something very wrong" --every designer of a stack language ever < 1314319648 535629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(experts) < 1314319651 339578 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1314319658 985001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"similarly with almost all other non-trivial stack manipulation combinators" --them < 1314319666 899389 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most stack shuffling operations are for the benefit of beginners. < 1314319672 190276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and since you can compose them all from a set of primitive ones why do you need a sublanguage for the rare cases" --me < 1314319697 224133 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, it feels cleaner. < 1314319710 912840 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's no worse than having a type system. < 1314319880 807487 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing is that I'llonly have to generate the frequency tables once by using Data::Dumper to generate a hardcoded hash. < 1314319899 340949 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say what you will about Perl. It gets stuff done. < 1314319899 486420 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be silly to traverse all of the data every invocation. < 1314319931 656559 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same can be said of most languages. < 1314319942 727911 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :except C++ < 1314319998 177425 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: ^5 < 1314320011 818268 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I maintain that every language is good for some things. < 1314320022 138971 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++'s is torture. < 1314320037 446616 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: did you just exponentiate what I said by 5 or something? < 1314320042 398382 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused by this notation. < 1314320044 212880 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is good for...confusing beginners, being warty, and having a cocktease functional language embedded in the most godawful metaprogramming facility known to man. < 1314320045 741819 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's "high five". < 1314320050 308074 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1314320051 696806 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1314320115 419368 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, if you treat it as C+const+RAII+templates, it's tolerably good. < 1314320115 600591 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is having to use C++ in his data structures class
< 1314320121 701435 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will mean I will be getting slightly more familiar with it. < 1314320136 783870 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the very least you don't have to resort to macros or untyped pointers to make type-agnostic data structures. < 1314320144 612442 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi i got back whjat's hapening < 1314320162 74027 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Goof night < 1314320162 419725 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wget is awesome" is happening. < 1314320170 242392 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1314320182 830194 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, templates bloat binaries something awful. < 1314320187 571544 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And compile times. < 1314320200 152665 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are we talking about c++ < 1314320210 354031 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I feel like complaining. < 1314320215 364768 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And C++ is easy to complain about. < 1314320258 372794 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1314320286 695364 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:46:59 < evincar> I decided it would be nice to have a non-TC language for making families of stack combinators. < 1314320289 658189 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1314320304 684251 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/language/sublanguage/ < 1314320310 584708 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genericity. < 1314320313 544708 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a word. < 1314320321 122855 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1314320323 543243 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo dawg we heard you like stacks so we put stack combinators in your language so you can stack while you stack. < 1314320333 381276 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1314320340 570331 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your meme is not welcome here. < 1314320370 933189 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:49:42 < elliott> "and since you can compose them all from a set of primitive ones why do you need a sublanguage for the rare cases" --me < 1314320374 252776 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1314320378 740716 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:50:07 < evincar> I dunno, it feels cleaner. < 1314320379 56287 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:50:20 < evincar> It's no worse than having a type system. < 1314320379 620517 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314320391 853199 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:53:28 < evincar> Say what you will about Perl. It gets stuff done. < 1314320392 682797 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314320417 653300 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What what? < 1314320419 255857 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: there's a lot of perl hatred up in this bitch. be careful. < 1314320436 891199 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: respectively, what, and what < 1314320451 628084 :augur_!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1314320454 160951 :augur_!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314320481 308500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: so have you seen that new language < 1314320481 656625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1314320483 506410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the name again < 1314320484 427465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check < 1314320485 425312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the wiki < 1314320487 751255 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1314320488 799103 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bad one < 1314320491 690128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :half-broken car in heavy traffic < 1314320494 392112 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1314320495 42289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two-dimensional one that ais likes??? < 1314320495 807084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is < 1314320497 363074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of coo < 1314320497 912439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1314320499 644013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1314320501 885899 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's kind of cool < 1314320503 664027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is.... rpettyt < 1314320507 970152 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm willing to use a shitty language if it has a library that does what I need it to. < 1314320519 795977 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but see, Perl isn't a bad language. < 1314320522 753162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well < 1314320522 918806 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's that much less of my program that I have to write. < 1314320524 576516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1314320528 268502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i do wonder if its tc though < 1314320539 343988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it seems like it might not be with a finite initial field < 1314320616 899443 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe its tc.... < 1314320618 559740 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not.... < 1314320642 175736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1314320643 228109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe its < 1314320644 904042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOTHE??????? < 1314320646 156808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :discus < 1314320647 539125 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1314320650 669188 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no never < 1314320651 736784 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse < 1314320653 132144 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to < 1314320654 48000 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe < 1314320662 109884 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The docs don't specify what it does when it goes outside the initial bounds. < 1314320663 277250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1314320664 229285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :belief is < 1314320665 546145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :essential to < 1314320667 293056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenwich < 1314320668 157334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :emean < 1314320669 750301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :times???? < 1314320671 705925 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's unbounded, it should be isomorphic to BF. < 1314320674 783454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :think abutt it, monqy ........ < 1314320679 483526 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinkeing........ < 1314320690 339840 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :got nothing < 1314320691 4932 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1314320772 444551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ops < 1314320777 403687 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooops < 1314320799 200344 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"belief is essential to screenwich emean times" -- elliott, philosopher and mathematician < 1314320827 763191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1314320843 676334 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did say that didnt he.... < 1314320939 350107 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this "random" example mean...for half broken car in heavy trafic < 1314320954 172896 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the car go in a random direction at start < 1314321055 480143 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like when it leaves one side it will wrap around.... < 1314321062 165750 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's what that example indicates < 1314321064 196391 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1314321189 684396 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1314321217 776209 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program is a torus < 1314321225 123293 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.....] < 1314321237 259668 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a much more sophsticated style of programming than your inferior linear languages. < 1314321246 261736 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay..... < 1314321261 879285 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a linear language < 1314321314 689348 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :where programs are a linear sequence of instructions. < 1314321335 467817 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of extradimensional, man. < 1314321375 179146 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all that many languages really just sequences of instructions < 1314321393 738594 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what are yous aying < 1314321397 675731 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an instrcution < 1314321401 723944 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a sequenc e therof < 1314321402 391379 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1314321419 541185 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how you interpret instruction I guess. I suppose if you go by "lines of source code" then even 2-dimensional languages are linear. < 1314321430 135331 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Music, writing; painting, photography; sculpture, film, 3D photography; 3D film. < 1314321456 898817 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My new goal is to write a programming language whose sources are 3D movies. < 1314321457 565995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: what < 1314321464 174534 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: hi < 1314321499 684587 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus in some useless and gimmicky sense four-dimensional. < 1314321500 572419 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: good luck < 1314321525 999592 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone is paying attention to me. :( < 1314321526 276712 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: waht < 1314321531 982442 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my languages all require viewing by 3d glasses. < 1314321536 757734 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: if you don't like it, stop talking :( < 1314321553 358929 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't. Boredom compels me otherwise. < 1314321557 708448 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1314321568 262778 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: learn Haskell and Perl < 1314321571 484348 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then make a hybrid language. < 1314321588 92354 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should give you plenty to do. < 1314321604 370970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1314321607 331856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will < 1314321608 103379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pierce < 1314321609 281318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your eyeballs < 1314321625 535842 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :-->0_0 < 1314321628 748128 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a joke? < 1314321631 722908 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a hybrid language...implemented in overloardedstrings < 1314321633 119385 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not funny enough to be a joke. < 1314321634 154645 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help. < 1314321669 474598 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Perlskell is my cherished deity. Soon it will come... < 1314321673 240640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP STEALING HELP OMG < 1314321673 904909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C) < 1314321676 149751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C) < 1314321678 629868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C) < 1314321680 64378 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(c) < 1314321681 375812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C) < 1314321691 243452 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: has anyone else done so? < 1314321696 331372 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll write Hasperll and we'll see whose is better. < 1314321699 958366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: (C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)(C) < 1314321713 369389 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've seen some other instances < 1314321717 301284 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget who did it though < 1314321723 375532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet has i think < 1314321724 207215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1314321725 816978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad person < 1314321726 815592 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I use "halp" but I've (C)'d that one for a while now. < 1314321735 229410 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp is a bad word < 1314321751 908562 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet ruined it??? maybe??? maybe i am imagining things??? < 1314321765 256113 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :man you guys are so stingy about personal preferences. < 1314321777 655902 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am hurt. < 1314321779 350216 :hagb4rd!4d0b684a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.104.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp is a 4 letter word < 1314321794 659182 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1314321796 93145 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :word is a 4 letter word < 1314321825 969682 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bug in irp interpreter perhaps? < 1314321850 696331 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the addition of 2 and 2 is 4. < 1314321905 975222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the is a four letter word < 1314321928 237960 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only is it now given answers to questions that were not asked, but it seems to be given misleading answers. < 1314321941 457529 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :irp is all I can program in halp < 1314321943 901945 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet ruined "teh", so when i misspell "the", i make sure to do it "hte" < 1314321959 693290 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~monqy secrets~ < 1314321972 411609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have so many monqy secrets < 1314322023 855676 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, now I have to get used to accidentally hitting AltGr so I type þe. < 1314322070 293152 :hagb4rd!4d0b684a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.104.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :32bit word is a 4 letter word < 1314322100 820083 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend is a 4 letter word < 1314322121 295897 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a 4 letter word < 1314322122 182272 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314322124 209257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship word < 1314322146 83695 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i won. < 1314322164 471763 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "32bit word" - length "friend" < 1314322165 118805 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1314322194 163412 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "CakeProphet" - length "hagb4rd" < 1314322194 815746 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1314322218 313338 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :word < 1314322540 888024 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub length($) {$_=@_;/^.*(?{pos})$/;$^R} length "word" < 1314322545 268098 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub length($) {$_=@_;/^.*(?{pos})$/;$^R} print length "word" < 1314322551 824705 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlep < 1314322553 389785 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl sub length($) {$_=@_;/^.*(?{pos})$/;$^R} print length "word" < 1314322553 849988 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1314322561 37720 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :regex = best way to do everything < 1314322603 57910 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl sub length($) {$_=@_;/^.*$/;pos} print length "word" < 1314322603 493121 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1314322636 321249 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1314322673 75683 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl at work: getting things done < 1314322686 976088 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you properly pronounce the name "Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe"? < 1314322694 289403 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1314322763 811089 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ee-yuck-kull-wuh-viv kuh-juh-go-be < 1314322769 84189 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is my attempt < 1314322794 430234 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That not pronounce it is just writing! < 1314322803 398945 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1314322916 161136 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[i@k:'lwvIv 'kjugobe] < 1314322968 621560 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: Now you are trying better. < 1314322975 782778 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wats dat I dunt speaks no unamerican < 1314323052 252000 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this is someone's name? Do you like this? < 1314323061 440855 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its my name < 1314323069 208525 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think "Also" can be a proper name? < 1314323076 190046 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet i still do not know how to pronounce it.. < 1314323087 590348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also zzo < 1314323088 422617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my name < 1314323088 923155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :irl < 1314323093 715804 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :could zzo38 sound any creepier than when he asks "Do you think this is someone's name? Do you like this?" < 1314323106 123613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314323112 918824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that creepy < 1314323113 253397 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: I don't know. Can you learn? < 1314323186 707253 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is learn? < 1314323313 906483 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1314323316 81670 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, "Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe" and "Also" are names of some characters in the D&D game. The letters of the first name were generated at random. < 1314323324 130055 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: pleh < 1314323354 658679 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : zhelp plehz < 1314323440 549712 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think English should adopt the ¿ < 1314323462 389077 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : ¿What is learn? < 1314323467 414139 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿¿¿ < 1314323497 601262 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿¿¿¿¿¿help?????? < 1314323522 439339 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old Norse hjalpa, Old Frisian helpa, Middle Dutch, Dutch helpen, Old High German helfan, German. helfen < 1314323531 526779 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1314323616 92562 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314323617 48459 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OIMESO < 1314323622 786012 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oimeso < 1314323635 472495 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are we all so weird. < 1314323636 197718 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1314323696 717523 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Because weird. < 1314323706 891227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im markov chane < 1314323717 101339 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi markov chane < 1314323736 436325 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :dick chainy < 1314323779 171948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:10:15: Basically all unigrams to root node, all bigrams starting with "foo" to /foo, all trigrams starting with "bar foo" to /foo/bar; then you can just walk backwards in your current context + the tree, and when reaching a leaf use that node's wordlist to generate the next word (or backoff). < 1314323789 789646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to figure out how this differs from the obvious way of doing it trie-wise < 1314323851 207065 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice I made markov bots. both dead now,. rest peacefully. < 1314323867 329730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes but were YOURS designed to work on almost a terabyte of raw data in realtime < 1314323868 279273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I THINK NOT < 1314323884 687743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'll have to run it from home lol because no host will give me a terabyte < 1314323893 56405 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make another bot but not markov < 1314323903 543140 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because markov is not cool enough < 1314323907 225247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :botte will be good... but markov more important < 1314323914 830746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes but mine will answer questions too...... < 1314323918 333620 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.... < 1314323932 288614 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: perhaps you should try to get a freelance project to make money to pay for awesome hosting. < 1314323934 982867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what is X?" --> start with "X is", do one markov chain forward from that and one backwards, until complete sentence made < 1314323944 590761 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some time i want to try scfg............. < 1314323961 449340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: well let's see now. < 1314323967 178969 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of markov..... < 1314323970 355562 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scfg is cool right..... < 1314323977 310129 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I considered using it. with regex of course to implement the transition rules. < 1314323977 381609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe < 1314323981 727253 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there is no better way. < 1314323982 700281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TERABYTE < 1314324010 945347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so < 1314324021 37138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only vps providers i can find offering anywher enear a terabyte of storage < 1314324035 240261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slicehost - 620GB gigs of storage, fiteen gigs of ram, two point five terabytes monthly bandwidth < 1314324037 580827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eight hundred dollars a month < 1314324042 615101 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8) < 1314324043 604262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rackspace - cba to work it out it's per-hour < 1314324056 124661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess a dedicated server < 1314324058 340536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be cheaper in that case < 1314324062 239594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but w/e im not paying a hundred pounds a month to run a bot < 1314324089 958787 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy a server. host it yourself. profit. < 1314324095 864986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :host it myself where < 1314324096 203765 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1314324096 901497 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :die < 1314324098 571013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from my home connetion? < 1314324100 45369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because thats called < 1314324102 401774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO < 1314324107 505906 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always just run bots from home.. < 1314324108 43145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i can just reuse an existing machine < 1314324109 720995 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :COOL DO THAT. < 1314324113 60728 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBLEM SOLVED. < 1314324117 843583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NICE YELLING < 1314324121 834583 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1314324123 299482 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUUUCK < 1314324152 52298 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let cruiseControl = map toUpper < 1314324152 853668 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1314324159 762215 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I invented sokoban compression. It is like RLE, but it first encodes the walls/spaces (like the Generic Font format, it switches after every number), and then the targets skipping the walls, and then it encodes the number of positions between crates, skipping positions where there are walls or where a crate can never be moved from if it is placed there, and stopping when the number of crates is equal to the number of targets. Numbers are stored < 1314324253 381338 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make a patent. < 1314324259 874112 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then when someone else invents you can get mad $$$$$ < 1314324260 297709 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1314324272 982783 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want it freely usable. < 1314324317 304245 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am one english 1-gram file number 7... < 1314324323 635308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help i need a really space-efficient thing that's also really efficient to seek about while keeping it all on-disk < 1314324324 143701 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :317K/s < 1314324332 886643 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition, it is automatically assumed there are walls on the edges; you do not need to encode the edges. < 1314324367 849658 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i am bad at knowing how to solve this probleme < 1314324371 834781 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey wait I have money now why do I not own an external hard drive. < 1314324456 666867 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.5 TB HD: $57 external HD case: $11 < 1314324488 720648 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a program using Huffman coding to code a Sokoban game on Texas Instruments calculators, but I invented mine independently and it usually compresses better (since it avoids redundancy). < 1314324520 972212 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1314324523 529184 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't imagine a huge need to compress sokoban levels, unless you've made some mega sokoban that'll take a year to beat < 1314324528 689725 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a few cases, rotating or flipping the level will make it compress better. < 1314324543 120234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.5 TB HD: $57 external HD case: $11 < 1314324543 796213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1314324546 49591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just buy < 1314324547 381097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an external hd < 1314324553 323022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get it for cheaper than the combination < 1314324599 617294 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheapest I've found is $70 < 1314324610 242596 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Yes, that is a purpose. Although mostly I did just to see if I can. Another purpose is a game with many levels but for systems with small ROM, but large enough to write the decompression program; the improvement improves as more levels are added in this case. < 1314324637 972683 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm curious as to whether there there are any notable sokoban variants < 1314324689 370190 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes it makes absolutely no sense but buying the case and HD seperately is cheaper. < 1314324694 651211 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some. There are many different ways to decide variants. Including geomerty, such as hex grid sokoban, or 3D sokoban; sokoban with new pieces such as blocks that move different number of spaces when pushed; etc < 1314324719 674788 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some assembley required: save $$$$$ < 1314324722 828018 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I can imagine all the ways to vary it, but what results in a Good Game < 1314324724 989485 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION google google
< 1314324803 428931 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, such thing as Snaky Sokoban (one of my ideas, too), where there is tail of your pieces and therefore you cannot go backwards. Another thing is you have multiple pieces all of which move in the same direction to push blocks, so you have to be more careful. Another idea is different color of crates which must match colors of targets < 1314324867 474418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh and i need to store it in reverse format too, oops < 1314324873 677742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess iw ill have to... soncult fizzie on that < 1314324903 204262 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :order placed. Now I just need to figure out what to do with 1.5 TBs < 1314324961 343295 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any other ideas about sokoban game? < 1314324996 39664 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse format what is that < 1314325002 346041 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also once played a game that is sokoban except they added keys and doors as well. < 1314325041 781412 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about receptors being level-changing triggers? When a crate is on them, they alter one or more tiles. When a crate is not on them, the alteration might revert. < 1314325047 180151 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be like those dickish block puzzles in La Mulana < 1314325064 597945 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it combines trivially with any other sokoban modification < 1314325074 157499 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not trivially < 1314325082 592593 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with obvious usage < 1314325452 543545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1314325473 848653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have a decent idea of how to do the reverse-way around too without massive duplication < 1314325475 102417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, two ways < 1314325480 146009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if they are any good though < 1314326426 377069 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :being a consumer sure is fun. < 1314326492 538138 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get to work, buy things, consume them, and die!! < 1314326637 721621 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh, I didn't check to see if my external is bootable. < 1314326640 495197 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1314326679 369051 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also, I wasn�t talking about lists (you can�t express Lisp-like lists in O�Caml because they can�t be statically typed)" < 1314326685 362302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't really matter < 1314326688 700568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it usb < 1314326691 543917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because running os off usb = FAST < 1314326692 210977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1314326705 193297 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? I guess Lisp-like lists can't be statically typed in O'Caml? < 1314326714 778907 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Haskell handles them just fine < 1314326717 827356 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chip's Challenge is a superset of sokoban, I just realized < 1314326727 822262 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://schani.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/why-ocaml-is-not-my-favorite-programming-language/#comment-6957 < 1314326731 451693 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fast enough. I used to have an Ubuntu flash drive that suited its purpose well. < 1314326763 365514 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :block receptor -> brown button, and make a row of beartraps with the exit at the end < 1314326849 304089 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see... what's a large collection of useless data I could get. < 1314326866 222631 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp pirate bay is down. < 1314326872 733149 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat do? < 1314326923 843177 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, ever play chip's challenge? < 1314326924 214508 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess large volumes of word data would be nice to have. It allows for some interesting projects. < 1314326995 913865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: torrentz.eu < 1314327006 116092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta-tracker < 1314327348 392227 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1314327357 711214 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a bot? < 1314327376 762022 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be a good bot < 1314327381 881187 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no need. I can do everything via an egobot command actually. < 1314327449 538310 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1314327571 854949 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes eventually I will probably make an irc bot. < 1314327610 808306 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good bot? a few times I've made bot. all dead. rest peacefully. < 1314327623 905142 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno. we'll see. < 1314327657 491661 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314327659 126857 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would serve a variety of purposes. One in particular is being able to facillitate pen and paper RPGs < 1314327664 34315 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :over IRC. < 1314327683 944933 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :another would be a playground of programs, similar to egobot I suppose. < 1314327806 169076 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might write it on top of lambdabot I'd like to have all of lambdabots commands. < 1314327907 869876 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I could write in Perl, and then implement lambdabot's commands by PMing lambdabot and relaying the answer. :P < 1314327976 16462 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314327986 465969 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hacks are ideal. < 1314327988 131887 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I jest I jest. < 1314328145 385446 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl $test = q/(?{print "launch missiles"})/; "hi" =~ /$test/ < 1314328145 833558 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eval-group not allowed at runtime, use re 'eval' in regex m/(?{print "launch missiles"})/ at /tmp/input.10433 line 1. < 1314328154 324745 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh look security. < 1314328175 25517 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl $test = q/(??{print "launch missiles"})/; "hi" =~ /$test/ < 1314328175 301941 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eval-group not allowed at runtime, use re 'eval' in regex m/(??{print "launch missiles"})/ at /tmp/input.10715 line 1. < 1314328213 907089 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I /could/ allow user-defined commands that execute when they match an arbitrary regex < 1314328216 912141 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is < 1314328223 113541 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I really want that to be possible? < 1314328255 586084 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not, unless I restricted them somehow. < 1314328284 272326 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1314328375 2167 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I think I have once play Chip's Challenge < 1314328407 288615 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl print /(?R)/ < 1314328407 662182 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pattern subroutine nesting without pos change exceeded limit in regex at /tmp/input.11361 line 1. < 1314329031 760760 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314329889 760834 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl local $x; '5' =~ /(?\d+)(?&FAC)(?(DEFINE)(?\g{N}(?(?=0)(*ACCEPT)|(?(??{$x*=$_{N};$_{N}-1})(?&FAC))))) < 1314329890 126410 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Search pattern not terminated at /tmp/input.13080 line 1. < 1314329893 941472 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl local $x; '5' =~ /(?\d+)(?&FAC)(?(DEFINE)(?\g{N}(?(?=0)(*ACCEPT)|(?(??{$x*=$_{N};$_{N}-1})(?&FAC)))))/ < 1314329917 52742 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl local $x; '5' =~ /(?\d+)(?&FAC)(?(DEFINE)(?\g{N}(?(?=0)(*ACCEPT)|(?(??{$x*=$_{N};$_{N}-1})(?&FAC)))))/; print $x < 1314329920 601364 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lulz < 1314329925 121162 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only that had worked. < 1314329937 91750 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even going to try to fix it. < 1314330027 471482 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to play RPGs on IRC, there is some IRC servers I have seen that have a GS command that allow you to do dice roll and calculation, as well as a few other things. (Type GS HELP for more information about this service.) < 1314330105 442801 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-51.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1314330214 223404 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1314330271 383365 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314330409 630126 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl local $x; '5' =~ /(?\d+)(?&FAC)(?(DEFINE)(?(?(?)((??{$x*=$_{N}--})(?&FAC))?|(*ACCEPT))))/; print $x < 1314330560 211464 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursive factorial in regex is probably not meant to be. < 1314330616 59822 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you debug that shi < 1314330630 111265 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can. < 1314330666 817362 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl local $x; /(?{$x=2})/; print $x < 1314330667 271484 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1314330667 354198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :youre bad person < 1314330669 269211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: tel themb ad < 1314330672 693968 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: bad < 1314330678 322774 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl my $x; /(?{$x=2})/; print $x < 1314330678 765545 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1314330686 753917 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl use strict;my $x; /(?{$x=2})/; print $x < 1314330686 967056 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad < 1314330687 133544 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1314330689 247731 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad < 1314330689 851393 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay. < 1314330718 293893 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other modern languages support dynamic scope? < 1314330741 171848 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell????/ < 1314330750 523138 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MSleep < 1314330752 94904 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1314330760 244051 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Would you count "can freely peek up the call stack"? < 1314330760 411114 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :implicit arguments < 1314330771 986731 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, then Tcl. < 1314330773 693918 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: kind of. < 1314330801 304479 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is (whatever)lisp a monder nlanguage < 1314330802 856337 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit more "explicitly pulling something into scope", though. < 1314330807 790625 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am sure there are lots of lisps with dynamic scope < 1314330848 537135 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah. Dynamic scope is the historical norm. < 1314330857 469219 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For Lisp, that is. < 1314330905 32159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ?x < 1314330905 772192 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t. (?x::t) => t < 1314330912 357306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let ?dynamic = 9 in ?dynamic < 1314330913 42595 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t. (Num t) => t < 1314330924 39706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let map [] = []; map (x:xs) = ?f x : map xs in map < 1314330924 807349 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t a. (?f::t -> a) => [t] -> [a] < 1314330935 239260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let map [] = []; map (x:xs) = ?f x : map xs in let ?f = succ in map [0,99,0] < 1314330935 939796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,100,1] < 1314330947 763025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: dymanically scoped < 1314330953 416006 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my < 1314330967 675145 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC extension? < 1314330972 696735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, like everything < 1314330974 350046 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what the question mark is for? < 1314330980 448068 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use that to have a this similar to methods in OO languages... < 1314331027 628916 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a more interesting abuse of language extensions that misusing overloaded strings? < 1314331030 978437 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that count? < 1314331037 408168 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/that/than/ < 1314331059 284154 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is nothing worse than misusing overloaded stirngs.....ecxept maybe worse things..... < 1314331070 680316 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Haskell have overloading strings? < 1314331077 147582 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's misusing overloaded strings? < 1314331082 750942 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :like calling lock/wait on them? < 1314331215 22353 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: like using them to interpret arbitrary code as Haskell strings. < 1314331239 821369 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo, fun < 1314331267 102614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1314331267 976334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1314331268 403454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1314331271 381184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: dont let CakeProphet exist < 1314331273 814071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make him die, stop, no, < 1314331277 435206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no help stop < 1314331280 266379 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helop < 1314331333 191998 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(.) o m = let ?this = o in m < 1314331350 23130 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that work? < 1314331412 724072 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess .$ would allow you to not hide composition < 1314331416 625508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \o m -> let ?this = o in m < 1314331417 343449 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t t1. t1 -> t -> t < 1314331421 249239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1314331435 34447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \o (m :: forall x. (?this :: x) -> r) -> let ?this = o in m < 1314331435 808228 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Predicate used as a type: ?this :: x < 1314331435 880054 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the type `forall x. (?this :: x) -> r' < 1314331435 880215 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In a pattern type signature: forall x. (?this :: x) -> r < 1314331438 442667 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the function of double quoted strings in WEB? Do you know if it is possible to make Haskell to have that function, too? < 1314331441 660159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \o (m :: forall x. (?this :: x) => r) -> let ?this = o in m < 1314331442 375115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : A pattern type signature cannot bind scoped type variables `r' < 1314331442 447500 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : unless the pattern has a rigid type context < 1314331442 447676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the pattern: m :: forall x. (?this :: x) => r < 1314331461 535533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\o m -> let ?this = o in m) :: x -> ((?this :: x) => r) -> r < 1314331462 239427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall x r. x -> ((?this::x) => r) -> r < 1314331466 161056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: yes < 1314331513 885832 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :neato < 1314331518 127496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: don't do it though < 1314331520 337168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill cut your veins < 1314331523 696107 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't intend to < 1314331559 548596 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also arteries would be much more effective if you intend to have me bleed out quickly and die. < 1314331592 820682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i want you to suffer like i have < 1314331864 190454 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lol, really? that's the effect my conversations on this channel have on you? < 1314331878 291871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes slow painful blood losss, tell him monqy < 1314331879 711292 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a personal problem. :> < 1314331934 242457 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! You have to bet your blood at a game of mahjong first. < 1314331980 273736 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bot is going to sporadically respond about 2-3 times a day to something, babbling inanely about something and then following with a ":>" < 1314332025 803849 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that one the bot or just an example? < 1314332042 460525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's CakeProphet < 1314332049 99050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway :> is my smiley < 1314332052 2425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(c) eso-std.org < 1314332054 223705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :years ago < 1314332054 748323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1314332056 185137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel famous < 1314332057 454478 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1314332058 300579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel famous placeholder page < 1314332059 963608 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonsense < 1314332064 262526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sometimes i fly around in a spaceship :>" < 1314332069 565488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has been a channel icon for years < 1314332071 365517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot just < 1314332073 698081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :steal the smiley < 1314332077 290393 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not live at the moon! < 1314332081 422401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314332083 955916 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't steal it dawg. < 1314332089 183145 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on my face right now. it's mine. < 1314332092 175694 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1314332154 114253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fak < 1314332154 636292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :u < 1314332156 397623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shat < 1314332157 63486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :had < 1314332157 541973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314332171 896713 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to say :> a lot and now i dont < 1314332179 422011 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> is the best smiley < 1314332186 593982 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now im only :( < 1314332189 97502 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and :'( < 1314332190 627581 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like :} < 1314332192 293415 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ;-; < 1314332194 643217 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ;_; < 1314332197 156196 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((:[])>=>(:[])>=>(:[])) "elliott" < 1314332197 759202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["elliott"] < 1314332198 987632 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ;_----___---____-_____-; < 1314332208 177016 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: totem pole eats you < 1314332226 657186 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] is its belly. < 1314332238 656793 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is a symbolic representation of Elliott Hird < 1314332274 559951 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1314332348 240545 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix ((:[])>=>) < 1314332348 954297 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall b c. b -> [c] < 1314332355 525439 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that monstrosity < 1314332369 144361 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like...cons to an empty list then whatever >=> is < 1314332399 398855 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really simple actually < 1314332400 132328 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((:[])>=>) "elliott" --the infinite totem pole of death < 1314332401 552852 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: stack overflow < 1314332409 682523 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead < 1314332432 224997 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the D&D game, my character wrote "DO NOT SIT ON THIS CHAIR PAST THE HOUR OF 6AM" on one of the chairs. Does this make sense to you? < 1314332442 943463 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-51.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1314332448 328024 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ("cakeprophet is a bad. "++) < 1314332449 682867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "cakeprophet is a bad. cakeprophet is a bad. cakeprophet is a bad. cakeprop... < 1314332453 454137 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((>=>)>=>(>=>))(:[])(:[])"foo" < 1314332454 139080 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["foo"] < 1314332495 892339 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no < 1314332503 305573 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Are you sure? < 1314332505 680637 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1314332507 92257 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1314332516 982544 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand what you said, but not why. < 1314332525 397537 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's sitting help < 1314332547 860300 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know it is actually a chair made up by a magic spell (Major Creation) and it eventually expires? < 1314332552 272974 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (>=>) --patashu < 1314332553 5448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a (m :: * -> *) b c. (Monad m) => (a -> m b) -> (b -> m c) -> a -> m c < 1314332560 223375 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all should be clear. < 1314332580 74200 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-50.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1314332582 303436 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, not at all. < 1314332590 551141 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad composition or something < 1314332592 268450 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now hopefully you do know. < 1314332605 353693 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: not monads but functions-that-you-can-use-with-bind < 1314332609 895730 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's a better way to say that. < 1314332617 86637 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read it; I finished typing the recording of the session this time by now. < 1314332640 962564 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (>=>) < 1314332641 36131 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Are you on drugs? < 1314332686 670232 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to read that recording? How many mistakes does it contain? < 1314332717 280756 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be something like f>=>g=\x->f x>>=g < 1314332760 366331 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\f g x -> f x >>= g) < 1314332761 82487 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t (m :: * -> *) a b. (Monad m) => (t -> m a) -> (a -> m b) -> t -> m b < 1314332770 666822 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1314332836 996179 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: interested in Shadowrun much? < 1314332840 626745 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking for a group. < 1314332849 323657 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: I don't know much about it. < 1314332858 82811 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can explain more details if you want to. < 1314332859 528277 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither. :P I've only read the 5th edition book a few times. < 1314332871 286777 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's uh... fantasy / cyberpunk basically. < 1314332876 947566 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could link you to a PDF. < 1314333021 852643 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read the recording of my game? (I am not requiring payment for you to read it) < 1314333045 610911 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't aware I had access to it. < 1314333117 702901 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/recording/level20.tex (In the same directory are "dungeonsrecording.tex" which is the macros, and "level20.dvi" which is the printout file) < 1314333236 219108 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can find the \session heading which specifies the date that this game is played, while \chaptertitle is used for chapters organized according to story format instead. < 1314333253 793726 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently it has eight footnotes. < 1314333305 773333 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? Do you like ___________? < 1314333426 126243 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really sure how to view this stuff. < 1314333460 209657 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The .tex is just a text file, can be viewed in any program. DVI file is viewable in any DVI viewer program or printer. < 1314333499 997612 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :said incorrect format when I tried to view the dvi < 1314333547 807497 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't know much about DND so the stats don't mean much to me. < 1314333549 812539 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then view the .tex file < 1314333571 18509 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the Doppelganger < 1314333596 963903 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the entire story text too, you do not need to know much about D&D to read that. The footnotes and character data is more having to do with the game to make it difficult to understand if you do not understand D&D, but the story text can be read by anyone (if you can read English story texts) < 1314333598 408919 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314333598 932293 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :CVEBFHWL < 1314333609 759548 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad < 1314333646 718447 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: help(c) what is read. < 1314333666 797150 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help(c) < 1314333666 963427 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Yes, there is the doppelganger named Also, that is my brother's character so he made up that name. "Hello, my name is Clark." "I am Also." "O, you are also Clark?" "..." < 1314333679 927385 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: help(c) < 1314333691 836041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1314333705 229985 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help help < 1314333705 489151 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1314333715 371198 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: help < 1314333718 154123 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: It is. < 1314333731 52378 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help help < 1314333731 124976 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1314333792 361279 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure I'll get anything out of reading all of this. :/ < 1314333823 121935 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :except "Also is also a slave on Thesk island" = lol < 1314333842 978553 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? Maybe you would notice mistakes having to do with story text. I am not very good at that kind of writing stuff. Of course, you can also learn a few things about D&D game from reading this, too. < 1314333870 234061 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is fucking Kurt Vonnegut himself and master of all writtens.
< 1314333901 734713 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it kind of switches from third person to first person randomly < 1314333915 339579 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day, a dwarf who was working in the mines decided to rescue both of us < 1314333916 493906 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :slaves < 1314333924 494554 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :us = first person < 1314333933 579683 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314333940 707808 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, thanks for noticing that. < 1314333941 464289 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then goes back to being third person again. < 1314333950 416504 :derrik_!~xix@gprs-inet-65-14.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1314334012 532534 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/tracking device. Note that both of/tracking device, and both of/ < 1314334039 588123 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole thing is kind of oddly worded but technically not incorrect I suppose. < 1314334045 585343 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least what I've read so far. < 1314334049 18057 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-54.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1314334058 194032 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I will take note of that in case I can correct that or someone can correct it. I will fix the "tracking device". OK I corrected that sentence now. < 1314334098 920353 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-50.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1314334112 680489 :derrik_!~xix@gprs-inet-65-14.elisa.ee NICK :derrik < 1314334146 797067 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Now, Kjugobe suggested to put/Now, Kjugobe suggested putting/ < 1314334155 858954 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm not really sure if that's incorrect, it just sounds strange to me. < 1314334173 973118 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I fixed that too. < 1314334221 978847 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's any need for me to make suggestions honestly. It's not like you're writing a novel or anything. < 1314334230 280916 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this story? Is it interesting story that you like to read this kind of stuff? (Note: the \note{...} indicates footnotes. They are not part of the story text) < 1314334232 170209 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just recording what happened. < 1314334258 329633 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have used a \note{} to explain < 1314334263 99907 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for great humor. < 1314334304 176 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Well, I am recording what happened as well as trying to make it like writing a novel. But not for selling; just for reading by computer. You can print it in many modes to specify detail level; detail level 1 is mostly like a novel, while detail level 6 is everything. < 1314334329 330193 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Use a \note{} to explain what, specifically do you mean? < 1314334355 102291 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :\note{the \note{} indicates footnotes. they are not part of the story text} < 1314334398 851102 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, like that. But the printout does not actually say \note < 1314334422 552504 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah I know I just meant in your sentence it would have been funny. < 1314334429 832236 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh let me find something else... < 1314334457 608688 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, you mean in my sentence on this IRC. Yes, in that case I agree with you it is funny way to do it I like it like that < 1314334465 792894 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :while you're letting me correct you in stuff... < 1314334469 825511 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme find it. < 1314334569 486293 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:44:08: I think too many paragraphs begin with "Also" < 1314334582 864658 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^/Also, / < 1314334594 363669 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolololololololol < 1314334600 74021 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1314334603 554648 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "lo" < 1314334604 174445 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololo... < 1314334624 496209 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is how funny I think that would be. < 1314334695 269455 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1314334705 397365 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy is a bad. < 1314334712 386389 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy is a bad. < 1314334715 188986 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1314334935 977026 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PART :#esoteric < 1314335160 53002 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is zzo from anyway? I'm occasionally suspicious he's a bot. < 1314335208 76072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :die < 1314335212 186997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is our hero < 1314335232 991652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel would be fucking unsalvagable without him < 1314335269 76202 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo is amasing < 1314335273 590946 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amaiznge < 1314335275 758686 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1314335285 91780 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlep < 1314335300 678968 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I say being a bot would be a bad thing? < 1314335466 28598 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is an hero.
< 1314335496 92494 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1314335506 30032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1314335640 831730 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU Emacs comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY < 1314335654 12380 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if software /did/ come with absolutely warranties? < 1314335654 671381 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1314335654 852625 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1314335656 530948 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zzo38 < 1314335661 720161 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well this is interesting. < 1314335790 723247 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://plus.google.com/117832052760789742441/posts < 1314335805 903340 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HI IM A BIG DUDE FOR BIG PEOPLE" -- elliott hird < 1314335845 72810 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You look like two sides of a strange rounded canyon. < 1314335881 274018 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should get a gougle plusse sometime < 1314335889 758045 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what i would do with it < 1314335907 431270 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do anything with mine. < 1314335914 28342 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Largely because I haven't made a video in a while. < 1314335920 346585 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I talk about all of my nerd projects to all of my non-nerd friends who basically don't pay attention. < 1314335923 435754 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun. < 1314335925 581317 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I haven't told any of my subscribers to add me. < 1314335955 995220 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only friends I have it'd be pretty useless to google+ < 1314335960 723829 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: That's what my blog is for. < 1314335964 472627 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1314335971 661591 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I acknowledge that no one listens. < 1314336107 727795 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all I have is a livejournal, where I post pictures of me cutting myself. < 1314336118 949253 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don;t livejournal < 1314336131 741594 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also write poems. -_;; < 1314336137 914284 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehehe < 1314336227 195089 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know LJ was still a thing. < 1314336231 149440 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAH I LIED. JOKES ON YOU. < 1314336252 634595 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1314336293 211437 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahahahahaha < 1314336304 301751 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh huh huh huh huh < 1314336305 402871 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cake "easily amused" prophet < 1314336417 671777 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :mon "help(c)" qy < 1314336514 887935 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1314336522 709989 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea. < 1314336553 34669 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unix-style programs have one port for input and two ports for output, but all of these ports are one-dimensional. < 1314336576 318288 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should have 2D ports as well, for images and such. < 1314336587 840115 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a thought. < 1314336593 411650 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won't work well with C. < 1314336597 481957 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be more useful in a graphical shell. < 1314336603 492405 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, C = Unix. < 1314336606 251582 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314336606 502549 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, really, any other bits of the stack. < 1314336628 189471 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too moronic to allow for any data structures other than char*. < 1314336659 33353 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. You *can* serialise everything. < 1314336668 812859 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously that's been working all along. < 1314336707 603769 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll just make programs that open up file descriptors 3-13 and output 10 bytes to each if I want to write a 10x10 image. :P < 1314336710 930230 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also utterly moronic. < 1314336730 925602 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it technically works, but so does assembly. < 1314336756 133308 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, so some higher-level language integration with the shell would be nice. < 1314336781 168943 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskshell < 1314336785 213575 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there were a consumer-quality Lisp-based OS, I'd go for it. < 1314336813 407125 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or any number of other things. Factor would be fine, or even something like Smalltalk. < 1314336837 324260 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I should team up with that guy who wanted to write a "Kay OOP" system. < 1314336847 95797 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear Symbolics offered those. In the 80s. < 1314336867 982568 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you're saying is true. < 1314336876 206669 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know if you're toying with me. < 1314336891 279394 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, being quite honest and depressed. < 1314336959 826416 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's got your gills down and brown, toothflake? < 1314337013 431993 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYTHING SUCKS < 1314337020 913782 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just computers, EVERYTHING! < 1314337035 288087 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people like things that suck. < 1314337046 154629 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people suck. < 1314337060 139998 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less. < 1314337141 19351 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm re-doing my web site. < 1314337157 107853 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to get started on that programming language genome project. < 1314337161 121828 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, and make baby IESVS cry! < 1314337163 452623 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there was some genuine interest here. < 1314337174 310735 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IESVS? < 1314337198 511745 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Jesus. < 1314337202 319742 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe in miniscule letters, U, and J in Latin. < 1314337218 308096 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Nor spaces. But maybe interpuncts. < 1314337231 704895 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: Interpuncts are a bit harder to type, sadly. < 1314337251 939647 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was thinking some bizarre version of Internet Explorer
< 1314337268 433369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, Internet Explorer version SVS is the Son of God. It's official. < 1314337280 279939 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IESVS, now with more YHWH! < 1314337328 939164 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Crap, just found out interpunct isn't in my compose map! This must be fixed. < 1314337337 134375 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lest I type • instead. < 1314337392 436076 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only one I can get at trivially is "・". < 1314337441 59495 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is U+30FB, KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT < 1314337621 506481 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, time to write a script for cat /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose | grep < 1314337629 637468 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that shit's handy. < 1314337634 786962 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, I know, UUOC. < 1314337708 998482 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-14.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: gone < 1314338165 950355 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314338166 689292 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HNG < 1314338190 60258 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awful < 1314338198 780797 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314338199 343699 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HIDAWSTS < 1314338231 379769 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314338231 978120 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACCPP < 1314338253 323883 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're getting closer? < 1314338255 611718 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1314338265 971862 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no, I haven't changed the program at all. < 1314338273 647866 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although with that HNG I think Ego had a hernia. < 1314338291 32852 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314338291 587784 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OWH < 1314338295 609822 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1314338298 621669 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely injured. < 1314338326 494720 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314338327 105452 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :STCDST < 1314338336 3026 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314338336 603438 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :KDAS < 1314338344 121016 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314338344 591512 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAFR < 1314338351 154098 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hee. < 1314338354 888873 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sated. < 1314338370 869893 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott-the-logreader: Regarding the reverse-context tree, doing it "the obvious way" is going to be just as fast for a fixed-length n-gram query (e.g. "what are all the 5-grams that begin 'argle garble blargle merf'"), but when they're arranged in the tree I mentioned, you can 1) easily have a variable-length n-gram model (just stop descending when you hit a leaf), and 2) do smoothing/interpolation without performing the corresponding 4-gram query ("what are t < 1314338371 32383 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he 4-grams that begin 'garble blargle merf'"), because the answer to that is just the parent node of where you were. < 1314338427 444863 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314338428 63829 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDD < 1314338452 654907 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course in fungot's case it's not about the speed, it's about the amount of code needed for sampling, since writing it takes time.) < 1314338452 900508 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ya i hav got one downloading the full match it up. love u so much. sorry. will see in half an hour. thennow i'm going home le. retarded. < 1314338456 321031 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: absolutely miserable < 1314338489 186242 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1314338489 708595 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: there is no. yellow is yes. i tell. stupid hear after i wont talk to you:-. < 1314338519 719709 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What style is this? < 1314338532 773991 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sms? < 1314338537 150396 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The SMS one, I'd guess. < 1314338538 468874 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314338538 540970 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms* speeches ss wp youtube < 1314338540 977188 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1314338570 67291 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style c64 < 1314338570 625372 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: c64 (C64 programming material) < 1314338574 436879 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1314338575 238623 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: communication registers: a, x, its starting address for the ieee bus card timeout flag < 1314338584 692359 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that one suffers from poor preprocessing. < 1314338600 730051 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's so much code examples and tables and that sort of stuff in the material. < 1314338632 908231 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style jargon < 1314338633 409690 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: jargon (UNIX-HATERS mailing list archive) < 1314338638 126871 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1314338638 874522 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: dump always does the young heroine, unruffled amidst the snarls and snaps of hunters from 65myears ago, but since it would be < 1314338645 193788 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one's just weird. < 1314338648 256074 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style c64 < 1314338648 328221 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: c64 (C64 programming material) < 1314338649 664356 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: So how do I... let's say, configure the VIC-II so that I get an interrupt at the hblank at the middle of the frame? < 1314338649 997360 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: expressions are: none note: the read/ write line on the screen is 208. since this will minimize digital noise at the end of this book in appendix e lists the program is to read. < 1314338680 921164 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possibly not very useful for a programmer. < 1314338702 18105 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1314338702 181600 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1314338708 475200 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1314338708 546835 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: strange but very good. john moore hasn't really proven himself as a kid i have played the game! :) so funny < 1314338723 452043 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one suffers from a rather small dataset, but otherwise it does sound quite youtubey. < 1314338737 844169 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :expand the dataset! < 1314338753 758418 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: So how about them airplanes? (It's made from the comments of like three videos, one of which was a plane crash, or something.) < 1314338754 7764 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: finally a snow mobile? gfto this game! i love those commercials but you obviously can't be serious by your own advice verify your information before posting stupid comments. this would never make it true that it's a throwback to techno pop. < 1314338762 551057 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have the youtube dataset randomly select several thousand youtube videos every month or so. < 1314338778 566885 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not my dataset, it was donated by asiekierka. I'm not sure I'm interested enough to make it "for reals". < 1314338832 314655 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fisher < 1314338832 386907 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fisher (Fisher corpus of transcribed telephone conversations) < 1314338838 159413 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Hullo can you hear me huh? < 1314338838 409641 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in her car < 1314338846 300926 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: In her car what? < 1314338846 648996 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: uh and fight for everything they need to be really good noise < 1314338858 876735 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're not really making much sense here. < 1314338859 316407 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so i mean i can be near someone who smokes and i can see maybe the school not actually stocking certain books in their library < 1314338869 955047 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A-ha." < 1314338876 685744 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style homestuck < 1314338877 179844 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: homestuck (Homestuck pages 1901-4673) < 1314338885 548446 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Sword < 1314338885 996166 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: of apocalypse your thoughts on these developments in your gamefaqs walkthrough/ journal. it can only be a moment. < 1314338889 776981 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bit of work-in-progress still. < 1314338904 102394 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: worthless piece of shit < 1314338904 635200 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: john, it appears we have reached an impasse < 1314338907 514829 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1314338919 342877 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a straight quote, sadly. :p < 1314338929 544965 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fungot < 1314338929 974259 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: the life in the water. dave's package contained a modified with rose's knitting. he gave rose a knitting set, the fabled to live on the green moon. they deemed the code which would inevitably be used to create becquerel. this animal must be a trick, interestingly enough, pertaining to punching cards, you've been contemplating what could it be the same. trolls think fashion is stupid. stop doing nothing but wondering wh < 1314339135 875212 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :5~3~3~3~3~3~5~3~5~ < 1314339228 436654 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coincidentally enough, fungot doesn't actually use the n-gram model for ending the sentence in the usual way (by just generating until it generates an end-of-sentence-token). It wasn't quite controllable enough, so I just flagged all (n-1)-grams that have occurred at the end of a sentence with a "can-stop" flag, and then for each such place it has a probability of stopping which depends on the length of the generated stuff. < 1314339228 602406 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a not boring way, build a way up the echeladder a while. until you woke up. she went this way. the cost a fortune < 1314339371 860826 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just randomly selects n-grams from the dataset? < 1314339425 698244 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1314339426 132160 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: to, uhhh....... < 1314339437 5802 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot look at your input? < 1314339437 556079 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: at that point you would essentially the same as the word " crazy" < 1314339441 570821 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just start generating when it hears its name < 1314339463 200372 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Unfortunately not, because it'd need to map your input into tokens, and I haven't implemented that in Befunge. < 1314339472 614862 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hay guaiyz, should the programming language genome thing have user accounts? < 1314339484 480455 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figure if it does I'll just use OpenID and be done with it. < 1314339490 957958 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Well, yes, based on the previously generated context, of course. In the "usual" way. < 1314339509 641538 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolwat < 1314339590 604032 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watlol? < 1314339632 151148 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess my real question is: would you expect to *need* to log in to this thing? It is sort of wiki-like, after all. < 1314339651 979883 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that raises the question of what the hell people would do with a user page if they had one. < 1314339658 51111 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe have points? < 1314339661 477685 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And badges? < 1314339666 742760 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Cheevements? < 1314339686 289036 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\(°_o)/ < 1314339721 360789 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't say help(C) because help(C) is (C) and (C) is (C). < 1314339820 729188 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) Let people make accounts 2) store passwords in plaintext 3) enjoy your credit card fraud opportunities < 1314339977 180345 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trollolol. < 1314339992 389895 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait. < 1314339994 313675 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tripcodes. < 1314339996 348187 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Derp. < 1314340002 859471 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone likes tripcodes. < 1314340023 818124 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's already been joked in here that this thing is an imageboard but not for images. < 1314340565 908947 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1314340615 838533 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi how do i tripcode < 1314340618 436631 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assist < 1314340624 658137 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a tripcode < 1314340648 136204 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripcode hjelp < 1314340666 845962 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: No-registration authentication. Basically just a hash of a password that gets tacked on to your username so you can be identified if necessary. < 1314340704 657531 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's clever < 1314340705 269322 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I'm looking for something...better. < 1314340706 697716 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never seen that before < 1314340717 604356 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you never go on imageboards, I take it. < 1314340732 340041 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any of the chans. < 1314340742 646935 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1314340757 691973 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only just heard of tripcodes last night myself < 1314340761 128357 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget how < 1314340765 450415 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nubs < 1314340798 592214 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nub "these guys are" < 1314340799 216057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "thes guyar" < 1314340867 505945 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're actually frowned upon for the most part. < 1314340886 671903 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't care. < 1314340888 872239 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nub "jumps quick lazy fox brown over dog the the" < 1314340895 682594 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nub "jumps quick lazy fox brown over dog the the" < 1314340896 337439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "jumps qicklazyfoxbrwnvedgth" < 1314340908 502759 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want the option to identify yourself, so be it. < 1314340910 178890 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd be easy to crack actually < 1314340912 421393 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the algorithm is public < 1314340916 355664 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort $ nub "jumps quick lazy fox brown over dog the the" < 1314340916 989550 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : " abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz" < 1314340924 549579 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just brute force attempts on your botnet until you get a match < 1314340956 371747 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1314340961 462892 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know how much I care. < 1314341056 995138 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gist of the site is: add/flag language, add/remove/flag/suggest gene. < 1314341067 686600 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to have too much spam to deal with. < 1314341081 691481 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then again I'm not sure who'd spam a random informational site for programmers. < 1314341109 611095 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's built custom then it probably won't get any spam < 1314341140 834958 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll just throw my hands up. < 1314341158 508138 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And say "anyone can edit; if you see spam, delete it". < 1314341199 534935 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, all edits will just be anonymous. < 1314341217 749222 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, there needs to be some sanity in the genes. < 1314341232 252446 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably moderate just gene suggestions. < 1314341531 982455 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone suggest a better name than "Programming Language Genome Project"? < 1314341541 444940 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a better acronym than "PLGP"? :P < 1314341586 953407 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314341587 736324 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPO < 1314341603 348827 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name of that one mouse from "Housepets!"? < 1314341612 692600 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314341613 315095 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WSESTT < 1314341614 544047 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314341614 856444 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314341615 83928 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314341615 197855 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BGMBRD < 1314341615 545957 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTSM < 1314341615 629123 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DICSUIF < 1314341626 244388 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dicks you if. < 1314341635 918590 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How helpful. < 1314341653 714129 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :appaling < 1314341670 182540 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-pailing. < 1314341697 617718 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a peeling < 1314341699 372612 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genome Project for Languages of Programming, the GPL-pee. < 1314341738 613021 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how will that even work < 1314341756 120016 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You pee, and then everyone is free to modify that, as long as they pee too in public. < 1314341801 797445 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you can maybe have some invariant sections, I don't know. < 1314342156 553057 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314342158 586194 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :EHPHC < 1314342204 252734 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314342204 881169 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BHR < 1314342206 997868 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EPIC is a Programming-language Index for Coders? < 1314342207 70049 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314342207 523371 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BARS < 1314342221 934082 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1314342245 638198 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I can't escape bad acronyms. < 1314342248 573560 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1314342255 511886 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I should probably just avoid them. < 1314342275 463641 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314342276 9692 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECBM < 1314342290 591788 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, it's a Programming Language Genome Project, and nothing else. < 1314342319 621721 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefered gpl pee < 1314342333 289129 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pee of champions! < 1314342349 94434 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> replicateM 4 "plgp" < 1314342349 723984 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["pppp","pppl","pppg","pppp","pplp","ppll","pplg","pplp","ppgp","ppgl","ppg... < 1314342357 896762 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1314342372 35958 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> permutations "plgp" < 1314342372 671442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["plgp","lpgp","glpp","lgpp","gplp","pglp","pglp","gplp","glpp","plgp","lpg... < 1314342389 226061 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nub $ permutations "plgp" < 1314342389 857630 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["plgp","lpgp","glpp","lgpp","gplp","pglp","pplg","plpg","lppg","ppgl","pgp... < 1314342420 666711 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GePPLa. The Genome Project for Programming Languages. < 1314342427 791178 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1314342445 83203 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geproprolang. < 1314342448 730483 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GULP, the Genome Undertaking for the Languages of Programming. < 1314342452 920782 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314342467 539531 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't sleep? Incontinent? Someone suck out your eyes with a powerful hoover? You need Geproprolang! < 1314342517 471598 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's surprisingly not terrible. < 1314342519 57456 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :son I am proud. < 1314342590 190430 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (`replicateM` words "son I am proud") =<< [3..] < 1314342590 846278 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [["son","son","son"],["son","son","I"],["son","son","am"],["son","son","pro... < 1314342616 10952 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join $ (`replicateM` words "son I am proud") =<< [3..] < 1314342616 639003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["son","son","son","son","son","I","son","son","am","son","son","proud","so... < 1314342634 542353 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join . join $ (`replicateM` words "son I am proud") =<< [3..] < 1314342635 975979 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "sonsonsonsonsonIsonsonamsonsonproudsonIsonsonIIsonIamsonIproudsonamsonsona... < 1314342717 200661 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join . join . drop 40 $ (`replicateM` words "son I am proud") =<< [3..] < 1314342718 561518 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "amamsonamamIamamamamamproudamproudsonamproudIamproudamamproudproudproudson... < 1314343475 581397 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1314343790 509524 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized that when designing CPU instruction sets, sometimes I have come up with things similar to VAX such as that if you write to a literal, you end up modifying the instruction, and setting the flags. < 1314343995 834783 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have once designed an electronic circuit which can do CPU, there is only one instruction, which is transfer register and jump. The different registers have different side effects. Instructions must be aligned; the other bits of the PC register are flags that are manipulated with every jump. < 1314344051 641680 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nub . permutations $ "help" < 1314344052 924614 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["help","ehlp","lehp","elhp","lhep","hlep","pleh","lpeh","leph","pelh","epl... < 1314344069 355045 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I also had one register which is XORed by the PC register to determine what the actual address of the next instruction will be. < 1314344071 9463 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords . nub . permutations $ "help" < 1314344072 413511 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "help ehlp lehp elhp lhep hlep pleh lpeh leph pelh eplh elph phel hpel hepl... < 1314344273 316544 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had code segment and data segment, which are used as the high sixteen bits for code addresses and for data addresses. < 1314344288 294716 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . nub . permutations $ "help" < 1314344289 653909 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24 < 1314344296 244761 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . permutations $ "help" < 1314344297 565299 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24 < 1314344308 731959 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . permutations $ "hhhh" < 1314344310 34018 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24 < 1314344314 7017 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never tested my design, however. < 1314344338 530685 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . nub . permutations $ "hhhh" -- 1. I'd feel awkward not including it though < 1314344339 897705 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1314344345 57569 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night < 1314344419 748056 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really following this very well: http://blog.ezyang.com/2011/08/joseph-and-the-amazing-technicolor-box/ < 1314344615 654034 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I especially like the [[User:Ian]] article in esolang wiki. < 1314346025 554273 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (`replicateM` words "const & const &") =<< [3..] < 1314346026 223897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [["const","const","const"],["const","const","&"],["const","const","const"],... < 1314346035 135765 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords . join $ (`replicateM` words "const & const &") =<< [3..] < 1314346036 477515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "const const const const const & const const const const const & const & co... < 1314346048 483971 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :examples of common idioms in C++ < 1314346056 179348 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Derp. < 1314346098 173714 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords . join $ (`replicateM` words "const & const &") =<< [1..] < 1314346099 549544 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "const & const & const const const & const const const & & const & & & cons... < 1314346591 581990 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314347562 995502 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> null (undefined:undefined) < 1314347563 683556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1314347574 835547 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> null undefined < 1314347575 459120 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1314347785 724673 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1314347810 272464 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314348196 181640 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the world of laziness. < 1314348223 707070 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yawn < 1314353148 168455 :evincar!~jon@d-rev-bng-70-20-44-128.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1314353381 977875 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1314353468 473305 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1314354461 46050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314354535 976079 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'permutations' is a function I soooo wish existed in C# etc < 1314354536 724593 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1314354540 492626 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it? < 1314354598 21322 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1314354849 329095 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: C++ STL has std::next_permutation. < 1314354863 994349 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rearranges a list to the next permutation. < 1314354883 121480 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a collection. A container. A something with bidirectional iterators. < 1314354909 839292 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the corresponding "prev_". < 1314354918 112589 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o < 1314354951 641026 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did I miss this ;_; < 1314355121 792008 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :java.util.Collections, the obvious place for it, doesn't. Don't think C# has one either. < 1314357949 999279 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1314357982 683427 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1314358445 168845 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-46-189.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1314358445 283862 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-46-189.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1314358445 355922 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1314358595 586109 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1314358622 336124 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314358647 176834 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314358879 959553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1314358928 991074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:57:28 > unwords . nub . permutations $ "help" < 1314358929 65569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:57:30 "help ehlp lehp elhp lhep hlep pleh lpeh leph pelh eplh elph phel hpel hepl... < 1314358935 462507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that was inevitable. < 1314359451 776996 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314359466 671703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:57:00 Patashu: C++ STL has std::next_permutation. < 1314359466 885160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:57:15 Rearranges a list to the next permutation. < 1314359488 898461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that cannot be a pure function can it, i doubt it would get through all permutations otherwise. < 1314359504 161917 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++, pure function? < 1314359514 981783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, depending only on the list input < 1314359555 876660 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just mutates the list to be the (lexicographically) next permutation, based on the elements' comparison operator, or a custom comparator type. < 1314359576 54350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it obviously cannot, since S_n is not cyclic for n large enough < 1314359582 850145 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And returns true, except if it's the "largest" permutation, it goes to the "smallest" one, and returns false. < 1314359589 952836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so depends on an element order then < 1314359596 690850 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does. < 1314359656 363898 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-205-183.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314359683 443236 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't draw a graph linking every permutation? why not? < 1314359687 424726 :GuestIceKovu!x@ANantes-259-1-206-89.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1314359698 113887 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to know where you started? < 1314359774 438562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i mean with opaque elements that cannot be compared. because then the new list must always be a fixed permutation of the old one. < 1314359795 398869 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd -hope- they can be compared < 1314359815 428768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...haskell's permutations works even if they cannot. < 1314359848 787753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . permutations $ replicate 5 undefined < 1314359850 167161 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 120 < 1314359965 717888 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could say it's [a] -> [[a]], as opposed to C++'s Ord a => [a] -> [a]. If you were feeling silly enough. < 1314360277 881638 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPermutation l = head . tail . dropWhile (/= l) . cycle . sort $ permutations l in nextPermutation [1,2,3,4,5] < 1314360279 270587 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,5,4] < 1314360282 759576 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best implementation? < 1314360473 790208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _might_ not be ideal speedwise < 1314360672 877139 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :@t iterate < 1314360672 986497 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: tell thank you thanks thx ticker time todo todo-add todo-delete topic-cons topic-init topic-null topic-snoc topic-tail topic-tell type . ? @ ft v < 1314360695 651196 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPermutation l = head . tail . dropWhile (/= l) . cycle . sort $ permutations l in iterate nextPermutation [1,2,3,4,5] < 1314360697 42816 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3,4,5],[1,2,3,5,4],[1,2,4,3,5],[1,2,4,5,3],[1,2,5,3,4],[1,2,5,4,3],[1... < 1314360709 178396 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPermutation l = head . tail . dropWhile (/= l) . cycle . sort $ permutations l in iterate nextPermutation [1,2,3] < 1314360710 539590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3],[1,3,2],[2,1,3],[2,3,1],[3,1,2],[3,2,1],[1,2,3],[1,3,2],[2,1,3],[2... < 1314360715 785784 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to work < 1314360821 713918 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I get how it works < 1314360830 825613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPermutation l = head . tail . dropWhile (/= l) . cycle . sort $ permutations l in iterate nextPermutation [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] < 1314360834 432838 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1314360837 846882 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1314360842 435472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so :P < 1314360976 198038 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let t = [1,2,3,4,5]; nextPermutation l = head . tail . dropWhile (/= l) . cycle . sort $ permutations l in sort (t : (takeWhile (/= t) . tail $ iterate nextPermutation t)) == (sort . permutations) t < 1314360977 538494 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1314360981 923406 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, you do get them all. < 1314361519 57530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPerm [] = Left []; nextPerm (x:xs) = (case nextPerm xs of Right ys -> Right (x:ys); Left ys -> case span (< x) ys of (_,[]) -> Left (ys++[x]); (zs,z:zss) -> Right (z:zs++x:zss)) in iterate nextPerm [1,2,3,4,5] < 1314361519 697960 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a]' < 1314361519 770814 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `Data.Eith... < 1314361524 37967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1314361546 744225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPerm [] = Left []; nextPerm (x:xs) = (case nextPerm xs of Right ys -> Right (x:ys); Left ys -> case span (< x) ys of (_,[]) -> Left (ys++[x]); (zs,z:zss) -> Right (z:zs++x:zss)) in nextPerm [1,2,3,4,5] < 1314361548 146441 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Right [1,2,3,5,4] < 1314361616 816946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPerm [] = Left []; nextPerm (x:xs) = (case nextPerm xs of Right ys -> Right (x:ys); Left ys -> case span (< x) ys of (_,[]) -> Left (ys++[x]); (zs,z:zss) -> Right (z:zs++x:zss)) in iterate (either id id . nextPerm) [1,2,3,4,5] < 1314361618 235862 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3,4,5],[1,2,3,5,4],[1,2,4,3,5],[1,2,4,5,3],[1,2,5,3,4],[1,2,5,4,3],[1... < 1314361640 603313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPerm [] = Left []; nextPerm (x:xs) = (case nextPerm xs of Right ys -> Right (x:ys); Left ys -> case span (< x) ys of (_,[]) -> Left (ys++[x]); (zs,z:zss) -> Right (z:zs++x:zss)) in iterate (either id id . nextPerm) [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] < 1314361642 4456 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8],[1,2,3,4,5,6,8,7],[1,2,3,4,5,7,6,8],[1,2,3,4,5,7,8,6],[1... < 1314361647 256397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks good < 1314361683 550054 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-25.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1314361732 814222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPerm [] = Left []; nextPerm (x:xs) = (case nextPerm xs of Right ys -> Right (x:ys); Left ys -> case span (< x) ys of (_,[]) -> Left (ys++[x]); (zs,z:zss) -> Right (z:zs++x:zss)) in unfoldr (either (const Nothing) (id &&& id) . nextPerm) [1,2,3] < 1314361733 495083 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Data.Maybe.Maybe a' < 1314361733 567330 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred ... < 1314361742 319991 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and it's even conceptually closer to the C++ version, since it also indicates the wraparound. < 1314361750 495565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the idea < 1314361787 351536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1314361839 736751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPerm [] = Left []; nextPerm (x:xs) = (case nextPerm xs of Right ys -> Right (x:ys); Left ys -> case span (< x) ys of (_,[]) -> Left (ys++[x]); (zs,z:zss) -> Right (z:zs++x:zss)) in unfoldr (either (const Nothing) ((Just.).(id &&& id)) . nextPerm) [1,2,3] < 1314361840 381415 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Data.Maybe.Maybe a' < 1314361840 453489 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred ... < 1314361846 618757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :urk < 1314361855 230572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (Just.).(id &&& id) < 1314361855 948561 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall b. b -> (b, Maybe b) < 1314361861 348943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1314361895 473550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPerm [] = Left []; nextPerm (x:xs) = (case nextPerm xs of Right ys -> Right (x:ys); Left ys -> case span (< x) ys of (_,[]) -> Left (ys++[x]); (zs,z:zss) -> Right (z:zs++x:zss)) in unfoldr (either (const Nothing) (Just.(id &&& id)) . nextPerm) [1,2,3] < 1314361896 810588 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,3,2],[2,1,3],[2,3,1],[3,1,2],[3,2,1]] < 1314361910 983928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. oh well. < 1314361913 482618 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a hell of a way to use the function XD < 1314361947 328805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t isLeft < 1314361948 79052 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `isLeft' < 1314361990 414446 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come plain ":t" doesn't work in a query? < 1314362095 51521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let nextPerm [] = Left []; nextPerm (x:xs) = (case nextPerm xs of Right ys -> Right (x:ys); Left ys -> case span (< x) ys of (_,[]) -> Left (ys++[x]); (zs,z:zss) -> Right (z:zs++x:zss)) in takeWhile isJust . iterate (either (const Nothing) (Just . nextPerm)) $ Just [1,2,3] < 1314362095 700519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Data.Maybe.Maybe a' < 1314362095 772007 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred ... < 1314362100 854701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1314362105 145393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much work < 1314362108 895259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no idea < 1314362468 531091 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1314362841 996790 :derrik_!~xix@gprs-inet-65-22.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1314362852 540257 :derrik_!~xix@gprs-inet-65-22.elisa.ee QUIT :Client Quit < 1314362876 943858 :derrik_!~xix@gprs-inet-65-22.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1314362987 362488 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-25.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1314362995 396250 :derrik_!~xix@gprs-inet-65-22.elisa.ee NICK :derrik < 1314363521 179940 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1314363545 876003 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314363821 265888 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-128-252.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314364371 282980 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-128-252.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1314364580 773114 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314364592 53974 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1314364678 914813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, you look distinctively unkindled < 1314364680 904605 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are we all help < 1314364705 813292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are all doomed < 1314364713 53301 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I just couldnt be bothered to put that in < 1314364716 412629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, business as usual < 1314364723 899813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1314364821 785181 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got my GCSE reults yesterday < 1314364836 781036 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were... very neat < 1314364862 857938 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two A stars two As two Bs and Two Cs < 1314364966 470053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: So tired < 1314365014 912790 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-star is like A but with a footnote? < 1314365068 927258 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, did you attach a handle to your Kindle. < 1314365069 639091 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the top decile < 1314365101 781647 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be Kindlehandled < 1314365140 548259 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But,almost < 1314365196 620003 :GuestIceKovu!x@ANantes-259-1-206-89.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr NICK :Slereah < 1314365202 374339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, A* is what they introduced because the English haven't got the hang of this "preventing rampant grade inflation" thing. < 1314365248 490771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In Scotland, grades are defined entirely in terms of percentiles.) < 1314365249 785943 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next, the A☄. < 1314365261 126213 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The A meteor? < 1314365272 55863 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. It's like the next step from a star. < 1314365279 731645 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A star that shoots. < 1314365310 993318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. That is how it works. < 1314365311 159989 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly A*, A⁑ and A⁂. < 1314365395 830499 :Taneb!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314365412 656695 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the stars must've been too much for the Kindel. < 1314365424 870274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A*, A ░, A§. < 1314365512 831837 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A⁂͙̽͘. (Disclaimer: might not work right in a monospace thing.) < 1314365539 902669 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314365560 835343 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better < 1314365566 409412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb|Kindle, what were the A*s in? < 1314365582 431266 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maths and Physics < 1314365602 863162 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you silly browser. "javascript: and data: URIs typed or pasted in the address bar are disabled to prevent social engineering attacks. Developers can enable them for testing purposes by toggling the "noscript.allowURLBarJS" preference." < 1314365698 226744 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which browser? < 1314365739 900689 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FF3.6.18. (This is at work.) < 1314365758 489169 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1314365788 268250 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use mainly Chrome and recently the Kindle browser < 1314365811 110813 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which annoyingly lacks tabbed browsing < 1314365867 301595 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what framework it uses... < 1314365898 363970 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too quick and too non-Microsoft to be Trident < 1314365951 274676 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an ARM slate, isn't it? I wouldn't think Trident is even portable to anything non-Windows. < 1314366036 762537 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is an in-ouse developement by Amazon < 1314366037 346927 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kindle’s new web browser is based on WebKit to provide a better web browsing experience. Now it’s easier than ever to find the information you’re looking for right from your Kindle. Experimental web browsing is free to use over 3G or Wi-Fi." -- http://www.kindleincolor.com/kindle-browser/ when speaking of the Kindle 3. < 1314366078 395170 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WebKit it is < 1314366105 437705 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :WebKit here, WebKit there, WebKit everywhere. < 1314366308 902576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WebKit, WebKit everywhere, nor any drop to drink! < 1314366482 560342 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how possible it would be to make a web browser in, say, Befunge-98 + PSOX < 1314366515 395183 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHH DON'T MENTION THE P-WORD < 1314366526 388025 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one thing, Befunge-98 has its own way of doing that kind of thing. < 1314366542 433688 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes < 1314366551 516782 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1314366594 436540 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, possible < 1314366598 889862 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't say the P-word, you'll awaken the sleeping beast. < 1314366613 131671 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was supposed to add a HTTP client to fungot for fetching URLs, but never really got that done. < 1314366613 297162 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for a while it was frustrating. she's a huge culprit was. you can still be a way that it shakes is the same. trolls think fashion is stupid. stop doing nothing but wondering what could it be the same as the word " crazy" < 1314366717 91931 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb|Kindle, wait did you witness the glory of Homestuck Mode. < 1314366750 807793 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Possib < 1314366753 645087 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ly < 1314366782 424550 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-22.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1314366784 697798 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are talking about old fungie there,then yes < 1314366788 921529 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMPOSSIBLATOR. < 1314366845 404042 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are talking abou a specif fungot moment then no < 1314366845 918475 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb|Kindle: the one who got you killed him for it? can't we say it, were all formerly the white text guy. you are sort of spectacular fucking jackknife off the loop, stable or otherwise. < 1314366985 561323 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going eexploring bye < 1314366997 252423 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that like exploring? < 1314366999 607139 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go spelunking. < 1314367015 132134 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I don't think there are any caves in Northumberland. < 1314367033 323809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH WAIT NO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Caves_of_Northumberland < 1314367039 655527 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :North UNDERland, certainly it's made out of caves. < 1314367078 158163 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cateran Hole is a circa 45m length cave set in the Gritstone of Cateran Hill in Northumberland. It lies about 4 miles due north of Eglingham, and can be reached by lining up the tall mast behind the farm with the left-hand end of the wood to the side of the Quarry House farm (to the north of the cave), then walking on this bearing." < 1314367081 672416 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the directions. < 1314367088 923047 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yeah, you know, the tall mast behind the farm." < 1314367114 549960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You underestimate the scarcity of notable things in Northumberland. < 1314367125 360813 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tall mast behind the farm is probably a beacon to all around. < 1314367210 427376 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1314367214 799093 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1314367234 56508 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1314367243 874908 :Taneb|Kindle!57ee5441@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.238.84.65 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314367252 330782 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314367377 857382 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jmgutnotemtzxwyo QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1314367384 692792 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bcvyhenerqipfato JOIN :#esoteric < 1314367394 282246 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314367557 445727 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question, when you see stuff like (This is implemented using C's pow(3) function, which actually works on doubles internally.) - what is the (3)? < 1314367563 129890 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see this a lot when talking about unix < 1314367585 493382 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-45.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1314368338 826252 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, perl has a unary + < 1314368516 129442 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu, it's the man section. < 1314368535 165310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man pages refer to other pages as page(section). < 1314368539 3912 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is libraries. < 1314368625 983360 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1314368995 734475 :coppro_!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1314369136 892344 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used like "man 3 printf", to distinguish it from printf(1), the shell command. < 1314369251 913263 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it just, the first one is numbered 1, the second function with the same name is numbered 2 and so on? < 1314369308 663618 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314369308 663887 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314369308 664040 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314369376 198545 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu, no. < 1314369404 358590 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is shell commands, 2 is system calls, 3 is libraries, I forget what 4, 5 and 6 are, 7 is miscellanea, 8 is root commands. < 1314369455 138434 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOH < 1314369457 477079 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you thank you! < 1314369461 334745 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to write this down < 1314369473 744247 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`man man < 1314369477 953626 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1314369495 875310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my system, that gives: < 1314369496 627216 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 Executable programs or shell commands < 1314369496 794330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 System calls (functions provided by the kernel) < 1314369496 866790 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 Library calls (functions within program libraries) < 1314369496 939740 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 Special files (usually found in /dev) < 1314369496 939965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 File formats and conventions eg /etc/passwd < 1314369498 635642 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 Games < 1314369500 664089 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 Miscellaneous (including macro packages and conven‐ < 1314369502 661908 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : tions), e.g. man(7), groff(7) < 1314369504 613047 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 System administration commands (usually only for root) < 1314369506 648456 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 Kernel routines [Non standard] < 1314369793 642715 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314369793 642793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1314370457 626497 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314370563 763189 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1314370674 113873 :mycrofti1!~ircguy@h69-128-47-242.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net NICK :mycroftiv < 1314374315 684 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1314374539 28760 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1314374550 559620 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314374976 660207 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@81-233-163-248-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1314375307 735311 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314375650 949792 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1314376615 843114 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-33-19.resnet.ucsb.edu QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1314377070 126329 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"During the 1980s Yossi and Avi Piamenta recorded traditional Jewish wedding lyrics to the tune of the song. The name of this song is Asher Bara Sasson ve'Simcha. It is often played at Orthodox Jewish weddings and celebrations." — WP page on Down Under < 1314377072 103389 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaaaaat < 1314377076 795877 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1314377081 209385 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who thinks < 1314377142 513162 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Australian patriotic song — the perfect tune for my Jewish wedding!" < 1314379370 111109 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds legit. < 1314379505 217488 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1314379530 376771 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of the ngram data is close to 10 GBs < 1314379537 347158 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :1gram I mean < 1314379626 458178 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :< Patashu> Wow, perl has a unary + < 1314379640 517659 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, so do other languages. < 1314379804 839164 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!python print (+2) < 1314379805 701207 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1314379841 504737 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (+2) < 1314379842 153207 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Overlapping instances for GHC.Show.Show (a -> a) < 1314379842 224798 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `... < 1314379847 982477 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I suppose Perl is one of the few where it's actually useful in certain situations. < 1314379875 980211 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. Clearly Haskell has unary +. It just results in a function. < 1314379911 312422 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to distinguish something as numeric, or to distinguish hashrefs from blocks in situations where they're ambiguous. < 1314379986 855371 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t (+2) < 1314379987 539405 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `:' < 1314380005 942327 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (+2) < 1314380006 692926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Num a) => a -> a < 1314380023 179826 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, it has the obvious type. < 1314380160 975320 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-45.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: gone < 1314380258 165745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314381388 820491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1314381555 957911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:33:05: If there were a consumer-quality Lisp-based OS, I'd go for it. < 1314381556 375499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:34:07: I hear Symbolics offered those. In the 80s. < 1314381566 759342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still do. < 1314381630 224791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:47:01: Also, time to write a script for cat /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose | grep < 1314381631 305366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... < 1314381674 33183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:59:30: elliott-the-logreader: Regarding the reverse-context tree, doing it "the obvious way" is going to be just as fast for a fixed-length n-gram query (e.g. "what are all the 5-grams that begin 'argle garble blargle merf'"), but when they're arranged in the tree I mentioned, you can 1) easily have a variable-length n-gram model (just stop descending when you hit a leaf), and 2) do smoothing/interpolation without performing the corre < 1314381674 197960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sponding 4-gram query ("what are t < 1314381674 270070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:59:31: he 4-grams that begin 'garble blargle merf'"), because the answer to that is just the parent node of where you were. < 1314381690 419116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: A variable-length n-gram model would take up considerably more disk space. :p < 1314381725 655902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm not sure what smoothing/interpolation would be there -- merging together the four-gram and five-gram lists and picking from that, rather than just using one? < 1314381867 463868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:04:05: That one's just weird. < 1314381867 630625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:04:08: ^style c64 < 1314381867 702879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:04:08: Selected style: c64 (C64 programming material) < 1314381867 703073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:04:09: fungot: So how do I... let's say, configure the VIC-II so that I get an interrupt at the hblank at the middle of the frame? < 1314381867 782001 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: be in cahoots with! you guess none the wiser, you board the shuttle. next stop, it's unbecoming fuel a process known in advance how terrible you were going to be at this matching game, so it probably knows you know it. < 1314381867 854380 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have a look. a trail of this fluid in the hall. you are going in. he's sent it in the first place < 1314381872 730570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You typed that in one second? < 1314381920 301515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:08:24: Patashu: john, it appears we have reached an impasse < 1314381920 373371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:08:27: haha < 1314381920 373546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:08:39: Probably a straight quote, sadly. :p < 1314381920 373654 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not that it would actually bother pitying you. < 1314381926 369985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fellow john, it appears we have reached an impasse" (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002414) < 1314381943 134450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure it's so wise to include page titles.) < 1314381973 647840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:13:48: Coincidentally enough, fungot doesn't actually use the n-gram model for ending the sentence in the usual way (by just generating until it generates an end-of-sentence-token). It wasn't quite controllable enough, so I just flagged all (n-1)-grams that have occurred at the end of a sentence with a "can-stop" flag, and then for each such place it has a probability of stopping which depends on the length of the generated stuff. < 1314381973 835377 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: your sylladex thinks they are fabulous beta envelopes. i was just that you'd never tell me any idea how a video. it looks so 8ad! < 1314381997 232915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So, with the glitch in the Final Fantasy data set, the problem is that "that sword alone" can't-stop? < 1314382004 52098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHHHHHHH SNAPPPPP < 1314382120 803660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:37:28: evincar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripcode hjelp < 1314382121 134622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't it be hilarious if evincar implemented the trivial-to-crack original tripcode system. (Yes.) < 1314382188 756599 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ObZen < 1314382204 70573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:41:50: they'd be easy to crack actually < 1314382204 235790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:41:52: if the algorithm is public < 1314382204 308108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1314382212 283808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah just like all the SHA algorithms are totally beaten < 1314382213 515087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RSA too < 1314382219 420739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just weren't hidden enough < 1314382227 276529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :waht is cryprogrtaphy < 1314382227 348165 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314382237 253942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you the originals are insanely crackable < 1314382239 311564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripcode#Description_of_the_algorithm < 1314382242 528526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look how beautiful it is < 1314382249 657010 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :help what is public key < 1314382254 885525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most noticeably, many implementations substitute various characters with their HTML entities. For example, 2channel translates <, >, and " to <, >, and "." < 1314382260 83110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :failed html escaping → STANDARD < 1314382309 759723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, someone already wrote a GPU tripcode cracker... < 1314382320 28062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks Windows/ATI-only though. < 1314382337 140582 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.ezyang.com/2010/12/gin-and-monotonic/ < 1314382345 941997 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine this has been on reddit < 1314382348 641023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked at that but then i ran away scared oops < 1314382353 319184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: those are the correct HTML escapes, aren't they? < 1314382355 474155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :todo: read ezyang's words in depth < 1314382360 329721 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can kind of follow it up to like... the last part < 1314382373 412632 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps to read the previous blog that he links, where he explains some of the notation. < 1314382374 549008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but you don't escape something that is going into crypt(), rather than being rendered as html < 1314382409 476833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's on the /input/ to crypt() < 1314382413 567565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is stupid < 1314382434 491464 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :he interesting to see a diagram of the partial orders of data types. < 1314382437 719719 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it's interesting < 1314382493 692495 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> head undefined < 1314382494 454062 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1314382507 216863 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smoothing would involve considering the 4-grams too (either always, with interpolation; or sometimes, with backoff) when generating the next word, so that the model can generate also words for which there are no 5-grams in your dataset. Anyway, it's not really a necessary thing for babbling; fungot manages without. It's more important for actual language modeling purposes, where you have new data coming in. < 1314382507 289192 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the point. for the first time in i don't really have a choice based on a strong pale relationship will serve to balance and complement each other's, since there is no quadrant which naturally conceals two licorice scotty dogs are still here. you tell him. you thought he'd washed his hands of you. < 1314382524 93881 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though he has the diagram for head messed up. He says bottom -> [] < 1314382534 242420 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's obviously bottom -> bottom < 1314382546 866399 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I'm reading it wrong. < 1314382550 657814 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mostly away; have to leave to Florence tomorrow at 0530am or so, and I haven't really packed yet.) < 1314382582 783146 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I'm reading it wrong. < 1314382627 874268 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not showing the partial order of the output values. < 1314382635 341663 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also, I typed the C64-related question first, and while typing it someone else went and switched the style away to something else, so had to do some cut-write-pasting. < 1314382640 786234 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just demonstrating that it's monotonic. < 1314382644 691972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But I was _just_ about to ask about my insane case. :p < 1314382667 418259 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had also another C64 question ready to go when someone else changed the styles again, so I just abandoned that one. < 1314382714 565009 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the diagram for const is kind of neat. < 1314382861 50809 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet Jesus I want. Researchers at IBM are putting together a 250 petabyte array. For no apparent reason. < 1314382862 878197 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> uncurry const (1,2) < 1314382863 497944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1314382867 856085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Anyway, my next question was going to be about what a nice (space and time-efficient) way to store reverse ngrams would be too. That is: literally just reverse the input data and n-gram that, along with the forwards n-grams, such that I can either query for "words appearing after" or "words appearing before" for any n-gram. < 1314382890 684781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was just going to say "turn every leaf [(String,Int)] into ([(String,Int)], [(String,Int)])", but, you know, maybe there's a nicer way. < 1314382900 486175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a doubly-linked tree. :p < 1314382966 637930 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude use teh huffmans < 1314382986 928278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Also: BLOOM FILTERS. Tell me bloom filters help. BLOOM. FILTERS. < 1314383034 977103 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Always does. < 1314383053 96606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: BLOOM FILTERS < 1314383104 651860 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it would save space to keep an array of encountered words, and then the tree merely stores the indices..? < 1314383118 433455 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that would help at all actually. < 1314383126 656267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: With a billion words, I doubt it. < 1314383134 192023 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because now you have two data structures. :P < 1314383139 948149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that's four bytes; words are four bytes. Sometimes. :p < 1314383147 737002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it might be smaller. < 1314383152 329863 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do that (use 32-bit -- well, 28-bit, I think -- integers) in fungot. < 1314383152 402645 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? are you volunteering? prospit. by which of course it was a nasty pair of beagle puss glasses, several () a blank card, producing a different hole in the roof < 1314383165 16037 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the unigram list is a lot shorter than the 5-gram list. < 1314383185 34477 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well if you're using Haskell then every word will be larger than four bytes I believe. < 1314383247 299515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Dude. < 1314383251 209301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going to be almost a terabyte. < 1314383257 103027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think I'm storing it in memory? < 1314383266 283600 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :HUFFMAN CODING. < 1314383269 286107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Right, it's true. < 1314383283 93218 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I didn't know it was TB. < 1314383293 688693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Just answer the easy questions and avoid the ones involving the backwards n-grams, why don't you. :p < 1314383294 272960 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, had forgotten < 1314383298 15414 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for building the reverse-context tree (if you want to do it; certainly you could make it work with a normal trie), assuming you don't want to do any pruning, I think it should be reasonably simple to just build it from a provided n-gram list. That's what fungot's conversion script does to the VariKN-generated model. < 1314383298 87483 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for a while it was frustrating. they are the most delicious bunches, not the nap in the grand dad for one for christmas. he is a rather piss-poor excuse. we 8oth of us, the whole plan hinged on that. < 1314383298 753418 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that that was the issue at hand. < 1314383309 724165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Well, twenty five gigs compressed, but when put into a reasonable-ish database and decompressed, about a terabyte, says the fizzie. < 1314383333 750953 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The terabyte might be a bit high estimate, I think that included Postgres indices too. < 1314383338 698346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, yes, but I'm asking how to do a backwards tree in the same thing. < 1314383345 456258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, hmm, you might not be trying to answer that. < 1314383354 906923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: Anyway, my next question was going to be about what a nice (space and time-efficient) way to store reverse ngrams would be too. That is: literally just reverse the input data and n-gram that, along with the forwards n-grams, such that I can either query for "words appearing after" or "words appearing before" for any n-gram. < 1314383355 254027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: I was just going to say "turn every leaf [(String,Int)] into ([(String,Int)], [(String,Int)])", but, you know, maybe there's a nicer way. < 1314383355 936364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Maybe a doubly-linked tree. :p < 1314383358 5613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/reverse/backwards/. < 1314383359 767122 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall reading about a compression algorithm that allowed for fast access but I can't recall the name... < 1314383361 822262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clash of terminology there. < 1314383469 137839 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :LZW would probably allow for fast reads? < 1314383489 96974 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's pretty simple to decode. < 1314383679 467112 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tree, then. Well, assuming you have a sorted list of ngrams like "a b c foo -> w1; a b c bar -> w2; a b d foo -> w3; a b d bar -> w4" (with w1..w4 weights), what you want is a tree where the /c/b/a node contains [(foo, w1), (bar, w2)] and the /d/b/a node contains [(foo, w3), (bar, w4)]. < 1314383707 170850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm... not sure you understand me at all. < 1314383731 242281 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I'm trying to, I'm just elaborating on how I built it. < 1314383734 487092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1314383751 108008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "The tree, then." was trying to answer my question. < 1314383795 204677 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though there really isn't much to it, after that. I think I just built it by constructing the weight-list [(foo, w1), (foo, w2)] for one context (the n-grams are sorted, so they're all next to each other), and then just, you know, a tree-insertion. < 1314383804 884676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose just storing what averages out to twice the data in a leaf would work. < 1314383810 611939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it feels like I could do it more efficiently. :/ < 1314383827 29773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The only idea I had was to somehow build the tree loopy-style so that you could go up just as well as down and that worked somehow.) < 1314383978 276688 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're using the google data, you could flatten all of the year lines into a single to save a lot of space. < 1314384002 625692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The five-DVD web data is not per-year. < 1314384008 376728 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have parent-pointers in my tree, since those aren't really needed for backoff either, if you just keep track of the current (at most 5 words deep) path you've descended. I think the perl-babbler is even a recursive function, so I could do backoff just by having a backoff-weight-derived probability for the function returning "I don't feel like generating a word today, why don't you have a go", at which point the previous recursion level would the < 1314384008 541326 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :n use its weights. (Those being the (n-1)-gram weights.) < 1314384038 348891 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I really neeeeed to pakc. This was just a random outburst. Happy to help, have a nice day, etc., etc. < 1314384086 393281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: For someone who isn't trying to answer my questions, you sure are replying to all my questions with advice that would be perfectly relevant if I hadn't explicitly said why I wanted a backwards path thing :P < 1314384128 344748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What *is* an n-gram, anyway. < 1314384145 504893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: For whenever: I basically just want two separate trees -- one built as usual, and another one built from the same data but with the data items themselves reversed. I just want to store the two in less than twice the space of one. < 1314384158 288918 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sequence of n elements basically < 1314384162 326467 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :from some other sequence. < 1314384164 158022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I could obviously just do it on the leaves -- an "if you're going forwards" wordset and an "if you're going backwards" wordset in every leaf. < 1314384181 420025 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this context an n-gram is a sequence of n words. < 1314384183 108721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But it feels like I could, I don't know, make it so that just like descending the tree downwards when going forwards, you could somehow ascend it upwards when going backwards. Or something. < 1314384189 569817 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, *that* sort of reversed. (Yes, I paid some attention, finally.) < 1314384202 101389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DID say s/reversed/backwards/ for a reason :P < 1314384217 468129 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I don't have an immediate opinion on *that*. :p < 1314384236 670204 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: for my acronym generator though I'm using n-grams of characters. So it can be any kind of sequence really. < 1314384245 890109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But what about BLOOM FILTERS? < 1314384347 894531 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314384473 562996 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 5 [1,2,3] < 1314384474 187127 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3] < 1314384608 225402 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 5 $ repeat 1 < 1314384608 867361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,1,1,1] < 1314384637 26050 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ngrams [] = []; ngrams ls = take n ls : ngrams (tail ls) in ngrams "hello friends" < 1314384637 668096 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Int' < 1314384637 740309 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type ... < 1314384647 958095 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ngrams n [] = []; ngrams n ls = take n ls : ngrams (tail ls) in ngrams "hello friends" < 1314384648 554227 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[t]' < 1314384648 626650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `GHC.Types... < 1314384708 597776 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ngrams n [] = []; ngrams n ls = take n ls : ngrams n (tail ls) in ngrams 3 "hello friends" < 1314384709 247202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["hel","ell","llo","lo ","o f"," fr","fri","rie","ien","end","nds","ds","s"] < 1314384743 778491 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ngrams n [] = []; ngrams n ls = take n ls : ngrams n (tail ls) in ngrams 3 $ words "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" < 1314384744 447491 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [["the","quick","brown"],["quick","brown","fox"],["brown","fox","jumped"],[... < 1314384764 693350 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally you'd stop at "nds" there in the letter-case. < 1314384818 694343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder if that tree-ascent thing would work. < 1314384822 762161 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also pattern-match that tail. < 1314384823 590686 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ngrams _ [] = []; ngrams n l@(_:ls) = take n l : ngrams n ls in ngrams 3 "hello friends" < 1314384824 187129 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["hel","ell","llo","lo ","o f"," fr","fri","rie","ien","end","nds","ds","s"] < 1314384834 667740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I have to do is store every parent as well as every child. < 1314384844 289594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably more wasteful than just storing twice the data in leaves, though. < 1314384850 80423 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: personal preference. I think it's nicer without the @ pattern. < 1314384853 602680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ha, the Haskell Bug has got you. < 1314384856 563679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: tail is a partial function. < 1314384860 706150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do not use partial functions when unnecessary. < 1314384878 20019 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngrams n ls is also a partial function. in particular it is guaranteed to never have ls = [] < 1314384895 442749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't know what a partial function is, I see. < 1314384901 929623 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I do. < 1314384913 830204 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's the same thing. I am using tail in a case expression. < 1314384921 818284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, there is no case expression there. < 1314384924 772008 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Though he can be sure he will never be hitting the tail [] case. < 1314384938 789795 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: let ngrams n [] = []; ngrams n ls = ... in ... < 1314384939 957425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Great -- so everyone has to mentally prove that to themselves to make sure the function is right. < 1314384941 440315 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :see the case expression? < 1314384948 512527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: So readable! < 1314384958 985642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: You do not know what a case expression is. < 1314384962 359345 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1314384979 650355 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what syntactic sugar is? < 1314384994 986682 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314385011 973791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Additional nitpick with yours: lss@(_:ls) is more idiomatic. < 1314385096 838324 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:56 < pikhq_> elliott: Though he can be sure he will never be hitting the tail [] case. < 1314385099 852836 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:56 < pikhq_> Since that is handled by the ngrams n [] match. < 1314385102 242704 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:56 < pikhq_> Still, the @ pattern is nicer. < 1314385102 655187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: pikhq_: Great -- so everyone has to mentally prove that to themselves to make sure the function is right. < 1314385104 237876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : pikhq_: So readable! < 1314385122 525131 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a match which /is/ a case expression, but whatever I am done with this line of conversation. < 1314385142 546295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: I'm pretty sure the semantics aren't actually identical to case. < 1314385147 451189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mumble mumble irrefutable patterns. < 1314385162 868439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I don't know if cases are defined by reduction of patterns or vice-versa in the report, but I'm fairly sure they differ in GHC. < 1314385173 791016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regardless, no matter what it's defined in terms of it's not a case expression. < 1314385200 884075 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-208.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1314385229 99436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads comments to a proggit article, finds that everyone's complaining that the content of the web page is hard to read because it automatically draws the cursors of everyone else reading the article onto the page
< 1314385239 468831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet people say that leaving JavaScript on by default is a good idea < 1314385243 767666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I linked that in -minecraft < 1314385250 22635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and -1, Troll < 1314385253 873851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(did I get my slashdot syntax right?) < 1314385254 291851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that's why I wouldn't have seen it < 1314385260 587121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1314385273 366289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing about JavaScript is, I can't think of too many legitimate uses for it < 1314385278 90375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-minecraft is more -df these days < 1314385279 185602 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what is the difference exactly with irrefutable patterns? < 1314385302 83324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that makes me smugly satisfied, is that wrong? < 1314385308 851098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, it's what I'd expect as a natural evolution < 1314385339 232249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: bear in mind that we've been hating on minecraft almost as long as -minecraft exists :P < 1314385343 904817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/exists/has existed/ < 1314385352 591377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, it's not /just/ me who hates on it? < 1314385372 502235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, _we_ hate on it because it doesn't nearly live up to its potential < 1314385380 184138 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Most people who play Minecraft both like and curse it. < 1314385386 999164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: same here, I think < 1314385388 71 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you clearly haven't seen /r/minecraft < 1314385393 693741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think other things do live up to its potential quite well, though < 1314385396 739840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it isn't necessary < 1314385398 687863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(DF is one of them) < 1314385406 73951 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, sorry, not all people are sane. < 1314385407 240814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: DF is not the game Minecraft could be < 1314385411 273457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliottcraft is :) < 1314385415 74065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my Elliottcraft) < 1314385433 597755 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all people realise that adding more bugs than bug fixes with every release is not actually a sign of good programming. < 1314385471 248031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION inserts sceptical remark regarding whether _any_ software project gets less bugs over time on average
< 1314385537 115456 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smartass. :P < 1314385560 835577 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know what I mean. Really, really *stupid* shit gets broken *directly by* his bug fixes. < 1314385614 102524 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it runs on a really slow pace of development, with really rather conservative gameplay changes. < 1314385647 852750 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, since 1.3 we've had, what. Repeaters, powered rail, pistons, wolves? < 1314385662 483150 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pattern binding is semantically equivalent to case expressions in the Haskell Report, for what it's worth. < 1314385678 279627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has language extensions. < 1314385679 361142 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "what a modder puts in on day 1 of their 'ZOMG AWESOME' mod". < 1314385695 751571 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1314385697 423197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pistons are a one day thing? < 1314385698 264343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pro < 1314385722 10171 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, fine, give that one a week, maybe two if you don't want stupid breaking bugs. < 1314385730 842872 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :language extensions = mass chaos? I guess? < 1314385745 395002 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly because you're having to hack block movement into an architecture that doesn't handle it at all. < 1314385802 871073 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, the Nether is still a boring-as-hell place. < 1314385816 483952 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by the time you've got diamond you've won. < 1314385816 555466 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIGHTSTONE WEEEEEEE < 1314385836 540362 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, by the time you've got a nice bit of iron you've won. < 1314385857 94238 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe invedit is the standard way to win Minecraft. < 1314385891 447437 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, yeah, SPC and TMI to hack together a Creative mode is kinda entertaining still. < 1314386050 612953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey fizzie, what's the approximate format of those DVDs? :P < 1314386062 708765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm wondering how quickly I can processermate them.) < 1314386080 759850 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now a proud owner of a Dave record shirt AND PS fractal shirt. +2 nerd cred.
< 1314386210 858954 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, real nerds don't need cred. < 1314386216 19627 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They have cerd instead.) < 1314386270 751968 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nerd cred mostly functions as cred to non-nerds. < 1314386278 71629 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :those who need the nerd cred. < 1314386299 649337 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean those who are incapable of basic type theory? :P < 1314386316 861413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irn bruuuuuuuuuuuurn. < 1314386322 204492 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:P makes any insult in good humour, no matter how barbed. Spread the word.) < 1314386323 339661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like an ice burn but... Scottish. < 1314386331 255979 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Urr, well. data/Ngms/Ngm-MMMM.gz, where N = 1..5, MMMM = 0000...[0117 in the 5gm case, probably something else for others], which contain "foo bar baz quux spoo\tK", where K is the count. Plus in each data/Ngms/ folder a data/Ngms/Ngm.idx which has a list of those .gz files, and the first n-gram from each file. < 1314386331 420535 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, MADE FROM GURDERS IN SCOTLAND < 1314386341 372666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Die, you terrible fucking piece of worthless shit. :P < 1314386365 271123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I wonder what the index is for. < 1314386369 473719 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I will cook you and eat you like I have countless children. < 1314386373 206893 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, indexing, duh. < 1314386374 402722 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. forgot the :P < 1314386419 946322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: BUT OF COURSE. < 1314386433 234642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm, oh wait. < 1314386448 278818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I _can't_ really generate backwards n-grams, can I? Not from forwards n-grams; only from raw data. < 1314386454 946668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1314386473 84028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That puts a dent in my question-answering idea (stolen from MegaHAL; start with query, go forwards until end of sentence, go backwards until start of sentence). < 1314386483 327081 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, that's neat. Yet bizarre. < 1314386493 431654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What is. < 1314386503 556090 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAT short filenames are stored in the system legacy charset. FAT long filenames are stored in UTF-16. < 1314386507 583691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:33:10: How come plain ":t" doesn't work in a query? < 1314386526 651225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Probably it doesn't respond to non-commands; I doubt the "foo++" karma method works there. < 1314386527 589633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?karma foo < 1314386527 662278 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo has a karma of 1 < 1314386530 718098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo-- < 1314386532 242715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?karma foo < 1314386532 315013 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo has a karma of 0 < 1314386543 271241 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you need at least two distinct charset parsers to handle FAT. < 1314386545 733788 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma Phantom_Hoover < 1314386545 806536 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 0 < 1314386549 890167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314386554 221705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma elliott < 1314386554 351143 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has a karma of 2 < 1314386560 841591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:26:42: fizzie, A* is what they introduced because the English haven't got the hang of this "preventing rampant grade inflation" thing. < 1314386560 913555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:27:28: (In Scotland, grades are defined entirely in terms of percentiles.) < 1314386560 913729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAK U < 1314386563 644412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?karma ehird < 1314386563 716663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird has a karma of 0 < 1314386567 666803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?karma lambdabot < 1314386567 738778 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has a karma of 11 < 1314386571 69981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?karma C < 1314386571 142205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C has a karma of 5 < 1314386580 223459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's talk about C--. < 1314386584 227712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's such a nicer language than C++. < 1314386587 276656 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ngrams n [] = []; ngrams n ls = take n ls : ngrams n (tail ls) in ngrams 3 . words . reverse $ "the quick brown fox jumped" < 1314386587 719591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, wait, hmm. < 1314386588 549262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?karma C < 1314386588 620829 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C has a karma of 5 < 1314386588 694419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [["depmuj","xof","nworb"],["xof","nworb","kciuq"],["nworb","kciuq","eht"],[... < 1314386593 941365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-- < 1314386594 854468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?karma C < 1314386594 926143 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C has a karma of 5 < 1314386599 229080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, those are filtered. :p < 1314386608 436147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Nope < 1314386608 684986 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ngrams n [] = []; ngrams n ls = take n ls : ngrams n (tail ls) in reverse . map reverse . ngrams 3 . words $ "the quick brown fox jumped" < 1314386610 80562 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [["jumped"],["jumped","fox"],["jumped","fox","brown"],["fox","brown","quick... < 1314386616 354921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1314386673 639327 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't see why not. If you have the raw data "a b c d e f g", you'll get forward-trigrams of "a b c; b c d; d e f; e f g" and backward-trigrams of "g f e; f e d; e d c; d c b; c b a", i.e. the same but reversed. (Also works with counts. "a b a b" + bigrams -> "a b, 2; b a 1" forward, "b a, 2; a b 1" backward, i.e. just mirror the bodies.) < 1314386684 298895 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ngrams n [] = []; ngrams n ls = take n ls : ngrams n (tail ls) in reverse . map (reverse . map reverse) . ngrams 3 . words $ "the quick brown fox jumped" < 1314386685 641965 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [["depmuj"],["depmuj","xof"],["depmuj","xof","nworb"],["xof","nworb","kciuq... < 1314386691 668678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:57:13: OH WAIT NO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Caves_of_Northumberland < 1314386692 806749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"St Cuthbert's Cave is a natural sandstone cave in Northumberland approximately 13 km from Dunstanburgh Castle. It is neither very big nor deep, but rather takes the form of an overhang large enough to provide shelter for a small group.[1]" < 1314386700 45475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: AMAZING NORTHUMBERLAND CAVES. < 1314386709 978903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeees, but I need what comes after them. < 1314386732 950042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, hmm, the n-gram set is not actually in the "n-gram -> next-word" format, is it? < 1314386743 601134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just "n+1-gram". :p < 1314386749 325462 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no. There is no "what comes after them". You use the 5-grams with a 4-word context to tell what the fifth word is. The same will work for telling the first word. < 1314386750 703156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So actually the five-grams are an order-four Markov chain.) < 1314386754 512925 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1314386757 978327 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, WP says Edinburgh has a total of 40.6 sunshine hours in December. < 1314386762 245065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four words isn't as nice as five, but I suppose six-grams would be rather ludicrously big. < 1314386762 826278 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1314386777 753738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Right, that should be easy enough then. < 1314386793 624636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should download one of the books datasets so I can practice my micro-optimised C programming. < 1314386798 304367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't want to have to process it for a week. < 1314386804 414730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't suppose you know how long it took to import into Postgres?) < 1314386829 355738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, something I've been wondering about (again, Gregor might know); suppose you have nine or ten copies of the same piece of music, but each of them has sound effects overlaid < 1314386831 631637 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what fungot would do with the google book data. < 1314386832 267813 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: about the bad news. over the last one. wait no, that just made you disappear" and stuff? < 1314386839 612882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of algorithm should you use to recover the original music? < 1314386847 586171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Well, this all started with me pressuring fizzie to make it work with the internet data. < 1314386855 185709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would require a rather large retooling of fungot. :p < 1314386855 355389 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and the way that it shakes is the same but different too, for the time being it makes your life kind of the dumbest and most far fetched but whatever. you also like to play games sometimes. < 1314386865 183982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you want some sort of "majority vote" between them, which is easy with images but rather harder with sounds, because DFTs need a window and no value for it is perfect < 1314386873 59314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you know which effect was applied to each? < 1314386881 775275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the algorithm used to distort < 1314386883 654268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not effects, they've simply been mixed with other sounds < 1314386887 710652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1314386892 197749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind, then. < 1314386898 157138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. you have a+b, a+c, a+d, a+e, and want a < 1314386904 466877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's impossible in general < 1314386914 964157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is just-out-of-curiosity, incidentally, I don't have an intended use for this) < 1314386940 810607 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, first you make a self-improving AI. < 1314386969 305771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's /necessary. < 1314386974 367655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s\ < 1314386979 874946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s/\./\// < 1314386981 510256 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1314386984 260975 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's *a* solution, though. < 1314386984 760823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor am I even certain it's sufficient < 1314387025 197962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm I'm thinking along the lines of "DFT all of them with the same window, take majority vote of the DFTs, unDFT the result", but am not sure it would work < 1314387048 410748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, as the DFT is an inherently approximate process, I'm not convinced that the majority vote wouldn't just see lots of different votes all picking different values < 1314387056 904110 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure human audio processing can pull off something similar, but much slower and worse. I am presuming that a sufficiently advanced intelligence could make it work. < 1314387076 248665 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a self-improving AI is an "easy" route to a sufficiently advanced intelligence. < 1314387081 501011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"easy" < 1314387094 75214 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scare-quotes for obvious reasons. < 1314387105 605823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a) it's not really easy, and b) it's scary < 1314387160 146677 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what the hell is the actual problem. < 1314387170 196226 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost as scary as having sentient furless apes everywhere! < 1314387203 289169 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ais523 has a few different copies of the same piece of audio, with varying effects applied. He'd like the original audio. < 1314387217 625442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's a hypothetical problem, I'm just curious < 1314387217 789703 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 86400-83486 < 1314387218 437106 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2914 < 1314387224 820074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's not effects, they've been mixed with other pieces of audio < 1314387233 335598 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Assuming additive noise, and a DFT window size that will cause it to have the correct spatio-temporal resolution, so that the corrupted bits don't overlap, I don't see why majority-vote wouldn't work. It'd be pretty close to applying the usual "restore the image" algorithm to the spectrogram of the sound. (It could be more robust to drop the phase information, though, and work just on the magnitude spectrogram, then reconstruct plausible phase afterward < 1314387233 407478 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s; that's not too tricky for overlapping windows.) < 1314387250 70537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Relatedly: have I mentioned that speech interfaces TOTALLY SUCK? < 1314387255 474130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHHH BURRRN < 1314387262 808409 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repeatedly. < 1314387277 331153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, I'd /expect/ the phase to be the same if the original piece of music was the same, and a recording rather than synthesized < 1314387277 413532 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah. Yeah, human auditory processing does that all the friggin' time from a single audio stream (admittedly with bugs from time to time). < 1314387287 266926 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a speech interface. Speech to me. < 1314387292 405762 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's certainly possible in a hypothetical sense. < 1314387294 843746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel that the Scottish people in a voice-controlled elevator video is now relevant. < 1314387321 791755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I can imagine how that would go merely from the description < 1314387338 393878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would link it but I have to feed the cat. < 1314387338 465961 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Even if we presume utterly perfect speech recognition, they would suck. < 1314387346 567307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the people in my old department, their job was to go round training voice-recognition systems on various regional accents, so I came across the problem second-hand quite a lot) < 1314387363 269069 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just bad for general UI use. Though it could probably be neat in some specific cases. < 1314387374 814259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is speech faster or slower than typing? my guess is slower < 1314387384 13395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it's slower than reading something that's already been written < 1314387386 767159 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Depends on the typist. < 1314387393 172220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :habitual IRC users < 1314387395 316796 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So would I. Anyway, if you want something more "fancy", run a blind source separation thing on the recordings, something like ICA (independent component analysis), it's going to spit out something pretty close to the original audio as one of the outputs. < 1314387396 367950 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote gaping < 1314387398 762416 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :617) Deewiant: How do you go through life without seeing at least one gaping anus, that's what I want to know < 1314387400 644726 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMS2VnDveP8 < 1314387402 667195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: Even if we presume utterly perfect speech recognition, they would suck. < 1314387406 348051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trolling fizzie, stop it. < 1314387423 355404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, doesn't ICA take a matrix as input? < 1314387427 554634 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm presuming a modern computer running it. < 1314387441 131248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am I thinking of something else? < 1314387452 40711 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd have to be extremely detailed in your instructions for anything non-trivial. < 1314387483 730432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'd assume that a general-purpose voice recognition system that was practically usable for general computer use would be something like shellscript < 1314387492 226359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :voice recognition is an inherently commandlinish sort of communication < 1314387501 432617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so, we should keep the lessons learnt from command-lines < 1314387514 573492 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"trivially compute G factorial" < 1314387538 263768 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, it takes a multivariate signal, and it gives additive subcomponents out. Purely as a guess I'd suppose you'd best apply it to a spectral representation of the signal, again, as opposed to, say, the waveform. < 1314387595 934337 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :spectral representation is usually better in all ways < 1314387601 291922 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for that whole lack of time-variance. < 1314387607 158849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't really expect it to be able to split out two different pieces of music from each other < 1314387619 22200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it'd have to have some sort of concept of what harmony was, etc < 1314387664 557472 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: From what I've heard, it works remarkably well "blindly" as long as your number of sources equals the number of microphones. (Even though the microphones all receive a different mixture of all the sources.) < 1314387665 39954 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :harmony is easy. < 1314387685 404039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, um. < 1314387691 394954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How big are the google books n-gram files? < 1314387702 296357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, that's a different problem, I think < 1314387711 576227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thirty-eight gigabytes for the four-grams compressed, I estimate. < 1314387712 832786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's when you've got multiple pieces of music, each of which is mixed in different proportions < 1314387715 967058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to download thirty-eight gigabytes. < 1314387716 883117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want to get the originals back < 1314387736 598653 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/scripts/acro$ wc -c googledata/googlebooks-spa-all-1gram-20090715-7.csv.zip < 1314387739 673713 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :71850778 < 1314387748 572324 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a single 1gram file zipped < 1314387749 66641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: That's just one of the files, isn't it? < 1314387751 478644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need all of them. < 1314387756 583247 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I have them all. < 1314387763 626637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Dude, those are just the one-grams. < 1314387768 943477 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1314387770 464200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're useless to me. < 1314387770 536085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wouldn't a 1-gram file just be a letter frequency list? < 1314387772 603928 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the ones I need. < 1314387776 450948 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, why is that so very different? You have N recordings, each of which contains a single common source and its own sort of noise; that's just a matter of having mixing weights like that. < 1314387776 792695 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have them. < 1314387778 542959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, just a list of words < 1314387783 911241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: plus frequency < 1314387785 786089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, this is on words not letters? < 1314387789 28086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes. < 1314387791 746728 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but with wget I found it was very easy to grab every file as long as you have the space < 1314387799 53686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: One billion "words" or so. :p < 1314387801 20545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, I see what you mean < 1314387809 824790 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and the time. < 1314387810 928618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Yes, but the one-grams are 9 files. The two-grams are ninety-nine. < 1314387820 305040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem there is that you're trying to split n+1 sources from n inputs there < 1314387844 97743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha at your numeral use there < 1314387856 75260 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not saying it'd work, but it might still find the shared source pretty well. You'd just get two types of noise in one of the outputs. < 1314387859 673003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1314387874 605825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not quite sure what happened. :p < 1314387882 948926 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 5-grams are 799 files. < 1314387894 397789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, well, I'm not downloading _them_. < 1314387902 652777 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obv. < 1314387903 904222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I want five-grams I'll buy the DVDs. :p < 1314387910 545825 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 71850778*799 < 1314387911 57801 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9M each. Jesus. < 1314387911 175418 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 57408771622 < 1314387911 247702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That misses the year information though, but oh well. < 1314387914 214329 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming they're the same size. < 1314387914 726951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 9M? < 1314387916 325104 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1314387917 703773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More. < 1314387919 598047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hundred. < 1314387923 610548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Approx.) < 1314387932 504083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :About eighty gigabytes. < 1314387933 706979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximately. < 1314387950 934121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What's your favourite set of n-grams for n>two that isn't huge. :p < 1314387954 996346 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /almost/ have enough space for that, I'd have to delete some music though. < 1314387982 498251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have the lifespan to download that. < 1314387989 688729 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but soon I will have ONE AND A HALF FUCKING TERABYTES so I can just download everything I'd ever want to download < 1314387999 399478 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's not actually *that* long to download. < 1314388016 769371 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'unno, our Finnish stuff generally uses variable-length models, because it works on (statistical) morphemes, not words, so it needs rather long contexts. < 1314388065 539392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 7% [=> ] 8,305,008 434K/s eta 4m 37s < 1314388069 728985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Times eight hundred. < 1314388087 613645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, just three days? < 1314388089 889687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's not that bad. < 1314388093 250248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my connection isn't always that good. < 1314388100 396670 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 5-gram files are just 9M each. < 1314388107 347330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they're _not_. < 1314388113 822690 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compressed, that is. < 1314388119 203565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For god's sake, click one of them. < 1314388121 804596 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DID < 1314388126 197375 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S 9M < 1314388130 59100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click a different one, then. < 1314388132 764242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all over a hundred megabytes. < 1314388137 917978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except maybe the first or last ones? < 1314388138 916357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1314388142 233143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the ones in the middle are all over a hundred. < 1314388149 339371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this because I'm clicking them this second. < 1314388174 756477 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, look at that. 0, 1, 300, 799 are all 9M. < 1314388181 855593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1314388184 698225 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we looking at the same corpus? < 1314388190 746013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Evidently not, what are you looking at? < 1314388197 216286 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/datasets < 1314388201 71382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1314388204 750413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are tens of corpuses on that list. < 1314388206 601626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corpi. < 1314388225 267908 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Fek. I simply hit "end" to get to the 5-grams. Guess what that one is? < 1314388227 326405 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spanish. < 1314388229 993890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1314388235 773514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want the first set of five-grams. :p < 1314388243 89848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, the English One Million set might be rather more reasonable. < 1314388250 46473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those zips are forty megs each. < 1314388253 655617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, *corpodes < 1314388258 21546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... thirty gigs. < 1314388259 310392 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*There* we go. < 1314388262 229112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not too bad, I suppose. < 1314388277 713711 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That noise is every classics teacher ever choking.) < 1314388294 416836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Anyhoo, the "store all the smaller n-grams too" reverse-context thing sounds nice, but it also sounds like it'd take up rather a lot more space. < 1314388296 557158 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, that's not too bad to download. < 1314388303 678401 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit annoying, perhaps, but *meh*. < 1314388331 423032 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit surprised they went with zip for this. < 1314388370 640051 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, it's ubiquitous, but this is one of those things where LZMA's benefit would probably be notable. < 1314388386 963109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it. < 1314388388 359901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's text. < 1314388394 933381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Maybe they should use azip. < 1314388402 306427 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll test in a bit. < 1314388418 546634 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When this file finishes. < 1314388446 979078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the funny thing is, azip works by extracting n-grams and giving new names to them < 1314388457 725932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursively < 1314388473 251549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh < 1314388489 228861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why the decompressor is so small < 1314388516 482742 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, it's not several magnitudes more (since there are exponentially less n-grams than (n+1)-grams; though in Google data they've minimum-count pruned it, so it's not quite as drastic), but sure, it's not free. < 1314388517 704588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: now's your chance to convince me not to spend one hundred and fifty dollars on a bunch of data to feed to an IRC bot < 1314388527 412064 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ZPAQ compression algorithm allows the compressed file to include a prediction program and a postprocessor program. I suppose one thing you can do is depending on the data being encoded < 1314388538 193455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did that Postgres have all the prefix-grams too? :p < 1314388591 113439 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think it had all the data, yes. But this is from memory. (Though discounting again the pruning, the 4-grams would be implicit in the list of 5-grams.) < 1314388592 410075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it really isn't worth it < 1314388596 277960 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it'll be ~15 minutes. < 1314388605 696729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are rather better things you could do with $150 < 1314388610 150695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think you realise just how dedicated I am to Markov IRC bots. They have always been in my heart. < 1314388618 393266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think you're being serious < 1314388623 403062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, but I can't think of any right now and I have a lot of $150s lying around wasting away. (Money deteriorates, right?) < 1314388624 605762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully, you don't either < 1314388630 924154 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314388637 544985 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : > let ngrams n [] = []; ngrams n ls = take n ls : ngrams n (tail ls) in ngrams 3 "hello friends" < 1314388649 82827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hey, think of it as an investment: I learn about micro-optimisation. :p < 1314388649 833727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders whether to keep playing along and making the conversation even absurd, or just stoping
< 1314388650 490548 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (take 3) $ tails "hello friends" < 1314388651 103801 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["hel","ell","llo","lo ","o f"," fr","fri","rie","ien","end","nds","ds","s"... < 1314388661 210394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stopping < 1314388663 362930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I am actually tempted to buy the data sets, if that's what you mean. < 1314388667 123084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314388677 208576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't know how much use you'll get out of them < 1314388698 123988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to some people, that sort of info is worth $150, because they need them for a project or their job or whatever < 1314388702 879831 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you could wget them faster than it'd take for them to ship. < 1314388705 91347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to you, that doesn't apply, couldn't you just use a smaller dataset? < 1314388738 31151 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: They're not wgettable. This is not the Google Books dataset. < 1314388768 669972 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, so he's discussing purchasing, what, a *larger* corpus? < 1314388778 420940 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly the reverse of drop is not a standard function < 1314388796 102625 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes. The Google Web "1T" corpus. It's from 1 trillion words of web-text, not puny ~15 billion words of book-text. < 1314388799 708193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you want to learn about micro-optimization, go work on TAEB < 1314388804 110624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, the bot would ostensibly be entertaining; random internet is a rather difficult thing to imagine. But mostly it sounds like fun optimising the processing and on-disk formats so that it can all run in approximately realtime. < 1314388814 261003 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse of drop? drop from end? take from end? help? < 1314388826 683191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it wouldn't be $150 entertaining, and it doesn't need a trillion-word data set to be entertaining < 1314388838 327316 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: drop from end < 1314388840 661450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'd get bored pretty quickly < 1314388842 338376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Without a trillion-word data set there's no challenge. :p < 1314388848 28511 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :take from end isn't either, though < 1314388851 556807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you deeply underestimate my love of Markov bots. < 1314388854 676731 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elliott considering paying 150 bux to get a bunch of words < 1314388857 410477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just get a billion-word data set and make 1000 copies, adding in some statistical variation < 1314388861 469829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: No, a bunch of n-grams. < 1314388863 720263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1314388867 900199 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elliott considering paying 150 bux to get a bunch of n-grams < 1314388875 271988 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: reverse . take n . reverse :P < 1314388875 770477 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it would be useful for getting rid of the "ds","s"... part above < 1314388875 935664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think fungot's entertainment factor is worth $150 < 1314388876 486938 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: man. it just so happens that today, the 13th of april. another day of uneventful but highly satisfying deliveries. < 1314388886 21408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you wouldn't make something more entertaining than that < 1314388892 387186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fungot doesn't listen to your input. < 1314388892 554445 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: examine the wall behind a door there? or why he always was a little cagey, even when discussing the proper thanks. < 1314388895 16896 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i sort of assumed you'd like to preserve a _little_ laziness < 1314388923 152813 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't see how that's possible when you're dealing with things at the /end/ of a list. < 1314388929 841524 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah, yes. I remember the last time I wanted to do something like that I did something like a takeWhile ((3 ==) . length) < 1314388941 229569 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: oh it's not _that_ hard < 1314388947 639531 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it's not hard at all < 1314388953 830428 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate init [1..] !! 5 < 1314388954 507490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28... < 1314388959 334496 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate init [1..10] !! 5 < 1314388960 97582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5] < 1314388977 863050 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how inefficient is that < 1314388979 172193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that makes fungot all the more entertaining when it comes up with something great < 1314388979 589029 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the one who got you killed him for it? its the size of a bus wouldnt kill me at your computer you might be here too. < 1314388982 246204 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not a named function, also i'm not sure how effective iterate init is < 1314389001 384345 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: oh wait you said take not drop < 1314389009 961256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Are you seriously saying fungot is the most entertaining possible Markov bot? < 1314389010 128475 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: man. it just so happens that today, the 13th of april. another day of uneventful but highly satisfying < 1314389010 293428 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that would not be lazy < 1314389012 228503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, if you do a really good bot that predicts what comes after input, all you'll end up with is making everyone else in the channel redundant < 1314389012 373334 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. < 1314389031 240770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm saying it's entertaining enough, and being better wouldn't make us much more inclined to set it off < 1314389049 704724 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think elliott is mostly interested in the challenge. < 1314389050 909037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie clearly approves, anyway. Obviously. < 1314389062 52124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's obviously the most mature, reasoned person of us all. < 1314389064 627848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously. < 1314389075 594526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: can't you come up with a similar challenge that doesn't cost a huge amount of money for no good reason? < 1314389081 87420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, if you can't, why can't elliott? < 1314389083 208299 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i thought that was you..... < 1314389095 281064 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything i thought i knew is a lie < 1314389102 904347 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well yeah.. I wouldn't spend money on it. < 1314389120 96938 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1314389126 986758 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't spend money either < 1314389133 108053 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I spent money on that data I would want to be doing something kind of important. < 1314389143 979190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll spent monqy on it. < 1314389148 720775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I see no evidence that fizzie approves < 1314389155 262781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship monqy. < 1314389166 26878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, he wouldn't be advising me if not, OBVIOUSLY. < 1314389202 39134 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not disapproving enough not to advise you on it < 1314389235 830357 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don;t really know what else I'd do with a bunch of n-grams other than make a stupid bot < 1314389241 5638 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :help how do I make strong AI. < 1314389242 849119 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably aim a bit higher than markov though < 1314389273 875359 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the fun challenge/reward of having something better than markov < 1314389277 809003 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :markov is eh pretty cool guy, doesn't afraid of anything. < 1314389283 824381 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314389292 543017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You can't really... do much that isn't Markov-ish with n-grams, unless I'm mistaken. < 1314389303 573474 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314389306 376233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're pretty limited < 1314389328 497640 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'd want a different dataset then... < 1314389335 324163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are you actually trying to come up with reasons for me not to get them because it's hilarious < 1314389344 43205 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :150 is a lot of bux < 1314389375 9825 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that what you get from an n-gram is (n-1) words of context, I think it's pretty safe bet to say that the Markov assumption (of order n-1) will hold for most things you do with them. < 1314389394 344243 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314389416 319898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think I've come up with most of them already < 1314389420 150243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to dip into more outlandish ones < 1314389420 338593 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314389420 892888 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SDBC < 1314389427 500827 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :miserable < 1314389431 783102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, if you buy one you'll be investigated for international statistics fraud < 1314389434 869473 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314389435 139107 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314389435 342008 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314389435 457186 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WGALB < 1314389435 529920 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314389435 624253 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :LDMR < 1314389435 875092 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSRIPBOD < 1314389436 41163 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GDDLBT < 1314389438 908227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but of course < 1314389442 234610 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm sure I don't either approve or disapprove. I personally would not pay for that stuff, but that's not much of a reason for anyone else to base their behaviour on. < 1314389443 979734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's routine when that much data is invovled < 1314389450 147124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure you'd pass the routine screenings < 1314389476 502249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if I've ever bought anything that fizzie wouldn't buy in the same situation < 1314389479 714264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certainly, I suppose < 1314389496 596341 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. xz gets the file to 53% the size of zip. < 1314389507 66254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How long did it take < 1314389510 246877 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to buy stupid things sometimes. now I don't buy anything. maybe one day I will buy again. < 1314389514 612558 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 minutes to compress. < 1314389538 371567 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION buys stupid things all the time thanks to the internet.
< 1314389545 4796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly buy things I need to survive and do my job, like food, transport, things like combs and toothbrushes, and the occasional laptop < 1314389554 523723 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by stupid things i mostly mean books i don't read < 1314389556 763718 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 13 seconds to decompress. < 1314389559 434476 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, I wonder if I've ever bought anything that fizzie wouldn't buy in the same situation <-- what is the context, can't find it in the scrollback. < 1314389566 459903 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, what product < 1314389570 820621 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you discussing < 1314389582 62720 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no everything I have purchased online so far has been a valuable asset. < 1314389585 165277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: fizzie saying that he personally wouldn't buy something, but that other people shouldn't make decisions on that basis < 1314389591 592288 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can smoke gingerbread-flavored smoke WHENEVER I WANT. < 1314389593 841626 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: I _can't_ really generate backwards n-grams, can I? Not from forwards n-grams; only from raw data. < 1314389594 587872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the context of /that/ is a corpus of n-grams extracted from 1 trillion words < 1314389597 379683 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, indeed, that I saw < 1314389605 220359 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, heh < 1314389606 775215 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering if it's possible in principle... < 1314389620 454051 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and the statistics fraud thingy? < 1314389621 370054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it obviously is < 1314389625 232479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as fizzie showed later < 1314389632 528155 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1314389634 683327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: instead of taking (n-one) as prefix and the last one as the word following it < 1314389641 84975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :take all but the first as the suffix < 1314389644 372192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the first one as the word preceding it < 1314389666 834345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing inherently asymmetrical in n-grams < 1314389677 978629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need to sort the dataset differently < 1314389682 672376 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you guys lend me a few n-grams? < 1314389697 280010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: They'll cost you. < 1314389705 48555 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1314389709 596412 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :$20n per n-gram < 1314389718 217890 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are backwards n-grams better or something I'm bad at knowing things < 1314389718 741883 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: they better be n+1-grams when you give them back < 1314389719 858329 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, here is a sample for free. it is for n=0 case. < 1314389741 458919 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is free according to CakeProphet that is) < 1314389765 205409 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I am an much credible expert < 1314389769 938775 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok i was thinking of a (possibly) slightly harder problem, where you don't have exact counts but only the probability of each final letter given the n-1 first ones < 1314389772 758076 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I am rather stingy, so I guess it's likely there's something I wouldn't buy. < 1314389776 682206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Right, that's what I was thinking. < 1314389779 78788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so am I < 1314389800 98365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm, if you represent probability as the number of occurrences (which seems reasonable), then it's easy to do, I suppose. < 1314389808 309215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, quite a few things that people pay money for are available legally for free < 1314389817 370747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Say, how many n-grams are there in total, approximately? < 1314389820 37289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that DVD set. < 1314389820 621145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most of the others, there is no reason to buy them, as they take up space and don't benefit you < 1314389828 267303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering how many bits you need to store the occurrences of a word coming after a prefix. < 1314389830 220759 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Didn't the LDC description page have counts? < 1314389835 376866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, maybe. I don't remember it. < 1314389846 239100 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um then you have extra data, namely the total count. it's _without_ the total count it becomes slightly interesting. < 1314389846 905745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm wondering whether it's a good idea to maybe reduce it a bit so that it takes up less bytes. < 1314389856 281305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, right. < 1314389859 838701 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Check there, it's faster than a zcat | wc -l for the whole data. < 1314389900 557371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what are you *doing*? < 1314389906 865530 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: its one five-hundred-thousand-gram < 1314389930 744070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: N-GRAMS. < 1314389942 432677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: zwc. :p < 1314389955 19543 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: wat < 1314389965 699844 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :N, elliott's drug of choice. < 1314389984 924908 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can also pretend it is 500,000 1-grams < 1314390001 51529 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is the data elliott is using? that thing you and ais discussed? < 1314390001 979824 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to pretend. < 1314390004 341272 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that is not the same amount of information < 1314390018 272700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Ostensibly, a five-DVD set of Average Internet. < 1314390028 453296 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i in it < 1314390029 353930 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314390029 774714 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to throw out some information to treat it that way < 1314390032 979113 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, which you bought legally? < 1314390077 644377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, I stole the DVDs from the n-gram shop. < 1314390096 80749 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is a sick perverted fuck. < 1314390099 99024 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely unrelated, but I have a slightly annoying on-off NetHack save. It's turn 25k-or-so, I'm standing in the Castle throne room, I've checked ~all so far generated objects, and there have been no (0) instances of: bags of holding (amulet-soko), magic lamps, jumping boots, levitation boots, potions of levitation, rings of levitation. I'm not quite sure how I'm supposed to go over the trapdoors, if I need to come back at some point. < 1314390106 22746 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah < 1314390113 107400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (I don't actually have it yet.) < 1314390120 290966 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, huh < 1314390123 178280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fizzie NEEDS YOUR HELP. < 1314390138 405596 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's the castle wand, but... < 1314390142 382738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: But, I mean, there are comparably huge data-sets available for free download: http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/datasets < 1314390156 261647 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: use the free one < 1314390163 558698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I take it you haven't looted the Castle chest yet? < 1314390179 279679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will nearly always burn a wish on a blessed ring of levitation in that situation < 1314390183 59952 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :test with the free one and if you get something amazing go for the big one? I still wouldn't, though. < 1314390188 156617 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, pudding farming. < 1314390190 742876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I wish for one at the Castle if I don't have a levitation osurce < 1314390191 868490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: That's what I'm going to do. < 1314390204 684761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I can solve the immediate problem of the trapdoors < 1314390214 329059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Something that isn't pudding farming. < 1314390217 5612 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also can't you get a spellbook from sacrifising when your god is already happy? Which could end up being levitation < 1314390228 527148 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why! < 1314390228 693072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most urgent use of wishes is filling out your ascension kit items < 1314390231 234019 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1314390235 714040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=oLev is an ascension kit item < 1314390241 434311 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hack the save file < 1314390253 726650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Because then you get subjected to the cruel, harsh punishment of pudding farming. < 1314390259 712260 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm true < 1314390270 171929 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, some people /like/ it though < 1314390271 687170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVEN I KNOW THIS AND I'M TERRIBLE AT NETHACK < 1314390273 246174 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :go figure < 1314390285 623832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, elves like you _do_ need to pass the time SOMEHOW. < 1314390291 863422 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never could get into nethack.. moria was fun tho < 1314390305 613305 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The wand is untouched, yes. I guess I could just go and wish for it, right. < 1314390314 431875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should make sure you have a way to recharge the wand first < 1314390325 498370 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm terrible at nethack too, never had a streak of more than 2 ascensions. < 1314390326 838218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apart from that, yes, unless you're going wishless < 1314390334 364459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ascending even once is not "terrible" < 1314390338 613162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What ais523 said. :p < 1314390340 472583 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was joking. < 1314390351 516625 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Possibly to counter the lack of e.g. a single BoH, I have stumbled across four randomly generated scrolls of charging. < 1314390357 323727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's easier to tell when you're joking if it isn't indistinguishable from normal you < 1314390364 971359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I've ever got a long actual streak, but recently, games I play with the intention of ascending them, I typically ascend < 1314390372 411738 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how do you know I'm not always the joker. < 1314390379 117721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: make sure the one you use on the wand is blessed < 1314390382 891543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because you have no sense of humour < 1314390398 388406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What ais523 said :P < 1314390400 896890 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only game I've played recently is Zombies mode of CoD: Black Ops < 1314390404 119238 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, come on. I can laugh at things. < 1314390408 635062 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I am amazing at. < 1314390421 6782 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats games help < 1314390456 810673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vagrant is the only good roguelike, guys. < 1314390466 206315 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: Possibly to counter the lack of e.g. a single BoH, I have stumbled across four randomly generated scrolls of charging. <-- may the RNG be with you < 1314390467 389231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: incidentally, it turns out it took me longer to stop reading about Diplomacy than I typically take to stop reading TV Tropes < 1314390474 790937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha < 1314390477 223205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: was that meant to be a joke? < 1314390493 655581 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :DWOHRF FAHRTRUSS < 1314390503 728699 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1314390506 967450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm very good at TV Tropes dicipline, I mentally decide whether the number of trope-related tabs I have open should increase or decrease, and browse accordingly < 1314390510 163577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: is not a roguelike < 1314390520 255356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a game, though < 1314390524 5802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you fix the spelling < 1314390531 876458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Slaves to Armok: God of Blood, Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress: Adventurer mode is a roguelike, though) < 1314390533 485147 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: was that meant to be a joke? <-- what do you think < 1314390542 973680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but Dwarf Fortress refers to Slaves to Armok: God of Blood, Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress: Dwarf Fortress mode) < 1314390548 497973 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you assume that I say things in a context when in fact I am just a bot. < 1314390557 501542 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarf fortress is easier than nethack < 1314390557 834550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well, it had the structure and context in which I'd expect a joke < 1314390559 633046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it wasn't funny < 1314390563 61023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1314390564 880673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if adventurer mode is any fun < 1314390567 346175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone played it? < 1314390572 588409 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it wasn't supposed to be a joke. < 1314390572 671816 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1314390588 887089 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, nor was it completely serious < 1314390592 28221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has ais523 played it, has Phantom_Hoover played it HAS ANYONE < 1314390604 744915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I haven't < 1314390607 72864 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ToadyOne has. < 1314390611 912062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and almost certainly, at least one person has < 1314390615 357255 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you never played df at all < 1314390619 622621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt Toady has ever played his own game < 1314390622 522943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wouldn't have any time to make it < 1314390628 781136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, UID 2 cropped up on Slashdot, to comment on CmdrTaco resigning < 1314390633 451543 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, he played it to debug it most certainly < 1314390640 711260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: who is UID 2? < 1314390642 953196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it lead to a whole thread of UID-based discussion < 1314390644 444925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hemos < 1314390653 125754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is apparently ungooglable because it's a pronoun in Spanish < 1314390658 332719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and also, is "resigning" actually the right term? I can't imagine Slashdot as a business :P < 1314390665 105939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is a business, technically < 1314390671 415125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it have a .org, then? < 1314390681 787227 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because ICANN fails < 1314390682 367480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it wasn't a business originaly < 1314390683 788228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then kept the domain name < 1314390710 939690 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICANNT lulz < 1314390716 775616 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1314390722 290427 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, hello? < 1314390724 906344 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1314390725 937085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there a UID 0, or does it start at one? < 1314390751 410299 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, in what context < 1314390762 268224 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :on *nix, uid 0 is root < 1314390762 362805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: find it yourself, if you want to butt in < 1314390773 248210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't know, but I guess it starts at 1 < 1314390784 417645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: thanks < 1314390795 63031 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1314390799 871147 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, er, you should know uid 0 = root. < 1314390800 381897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: sorry, misping < 1314390812 459081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I thought we were discussing Slashdot < 1314390820 769472 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : has ais523 played it, has Phantom_Hoover played it HAS ANYONE < 1314390822 588543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: Vorpal decided to butt in < 1314390823 728011 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I assume UID 2 is some user there? < 1314390826 159381 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't, no. < 1314390827 897690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Slashdot UIDs go above 65535, so are not traditional UNIX UIDs < 1314390828 396203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbot: But he doesn't know what we're talking about < 1314390835 333448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Then you pinged him instead of me for some reason < 1314390843 408310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that was what started the conversation in the first place? < 1314390847 605533 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh so you mean slashdot account IDs < 1314390855 22073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yiyus: this is ridiculous < 1314390856 263064 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking, "Why would elliott ever thank me for something in this universe." < 1314390862 643200 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I assume it was a slashdot user *called* "UID 2" < 1314390865 433851 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly I have moved to a new universe. < 1314390866 842624 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :assumed* < 1314390872 958842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: smart < 1314390900 221042 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot, really? < 1314390935 494160 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :What i slove? Baby d on't hrut me. < 1314390938 538150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeholdMyGlory, are we doing a 'ping random people' thing? < 1314390954 886535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: no < 1314390969 44243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will end up annoying most of the channel if you keep it up < 1314390972 130078 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what made you think that? < 1314390974 808659 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chickenzilla, looks like it. < 1314390976 303965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: Nonsense < 1314390979 863745 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: hi < 1314390989 175868 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :great one < 1314390991 258860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION downloads one of the five-gram zips to toy with the data.
< 1314390997 832503 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin, who cares, none of them say anything anyway. < 1314391007 472034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog: copumpkin talks, you idiot. < 1314391010 395366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's as bad as the sequence that lasted over an hour in another channel where everyone omitted the letter 'd' from all their comments after someone deliberately misinterpreted a joke by an admin < 1314391011 394833 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :chickenzilla: yeah I am in agreement with yorick < 1314391024 194963 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hehe < 1314391024 573658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I on't see why we should o that. < 1314391034 308722 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you are? < 1314391035 902906 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fail. "should" < 1314391039 376235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i pinged the right person oops < 1314391040 417401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1314391041 992767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1314391042 326236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1314391045 402364 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I know, but I wasn't talking about him. < 1314391047 923209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: help variable < 1314391049 951229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: SNAP. < 1314391065 495460 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: help why are you here. < 1314391067 313954 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover? < 1314391067 779067 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :who on earth is boily. Never seen him/her/it talk < 1314391081 193158 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick, deliberate misping hour I'm afraid. < 1314391082 139545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: You're such a Wamanuz. < 1314391088 754570 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im back from being away. thanking people instead of greeting them sounds good, for a nice change of pace. < 1314391094 15269 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I will mix them up < 1314391095 614561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I'd Zetro my jix, but unfortunately I accidentally olsner the whole Zwaarddi1k. < 1314391095 780712 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: to make you feel more shame < 1314391121 910515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aloril is such a fungot, but rodgort did verily atehwa my Nisstyre; it was totally ineiros, mtve. < 1314391122 18642 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and that is? you've had it for some time as any to start a new memo < 1314391131 474364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three seconds until ais523 rage/parts < 1314391137 76195 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1314391137 354467 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: boily is the creator of aubergine. how could you not know boilu? < 1314391140 228418 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: boily, that is quite Deewiant of you. < 1314391149 977583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zetro: hi < 1314391154 356812 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, never heard of that language either < 1314391158 256048 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zetro: hi < 1314391158 506318 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :should check it out < 1314391158 577662 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi lol :P < 1314391167 412711 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, who said anything about languages? < 1314391170 501134 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1314391177 216396 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disapprove of your pingery < 1314391178 912614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote pumpkin < 1314391181 20332 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :461) The wickedest man of all. Surpassed only in wickedness by the wicked witches of the west and east. you talking about me again? Yes. k \ 558) Phantom_Hoover: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? < 1314391185 94215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zetro: they've been nickpinging random people < 1314391192 718367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see how long it takes before I get annoyed, I think < 1314391196 64582 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aloril, you would. < 1314391209 819471 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. This is getting out of hand < 1314391210 68886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about that < 1314391210 383030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice11, don't flatter yourself. < 1314391224 178170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Users on #esoteric: MDude monqy oerjan zzo38 pikhq elliott ais523 variable copumpkin Wamanuz FireFly BeholdMyGlory quintopia coppro_ augur iamcal sllide Slereah boily Vorpal sebbu Lymee Phantom_Hoover hagb4rd EgoBot Sgeo CakeProphet chickenzilla Nisstyre mtve myndzi itidus20 rodgort yorick atehwa ineiros Zwaarddi1k mycroftiv Zetro jix SimonRC fungot aloril jcp|other jcp shachaf lifthrasiir olsner lam < 1314391224 344250 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it was a big goofy adult. slow down! man. how's it going to happen. you double check your mail maybe its a good idea. < 1314391224 416342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdabot twice11 Gregor HackEgo glogbot Deewiant clog fizzie yiyus < 1314391227 507911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, now things can't possibly get worse < 1314391230 259795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops: lambdabot < 1314391230 426309 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, *stab* < 1314391232 327170 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i'm on that list < 1314391233 114054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on to the next less annoying thing < 1314391240 98467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can thank me later < 1314391244 824512 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm going with Vorp: *stab* < 1314391249 660156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hi < 1314391252 886595 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314391253 324283 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck* ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314391253 406860 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabs elliott
< 1314391255 855319 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314391255 939464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1314391256 422241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1314391257 899269 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was not pinged for some reason. < 1314391259 619872 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1314391260 368849 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabs elliott.
< 1314391266 573648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: A personal failing, I suppose < 1314391268 643211 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1314391268 977717 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1314391270 587693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: im holes... < 1314391271 479011 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is 1+1 < 1314391272 177851 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: they say that sometimes simply to hear its hiss can prove fatal. its long handle is designed to allow the lovely sweet taste to spread out slowly over his head, began barreling toward the moon! < 1314391276 282032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: possibly your client detects mass pings < 1314391278 250075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style homestuck < 1314391278 416510 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: homestuck (Homestuck pages 1901-4673) < 1314391280 85571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your name was mentioned < 1314391281 918260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how do I reach Sokoban it is so annoying < 1314391281 990338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anti-Lymee brigade in force. < 1314391282 196783 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: good idea! the thought of that? < 1314391286 165094 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hes irssi and the default is only to ping when name is at the start of whatever < 1314391289 247546 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, yes but how. < 1314391289 773909 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it just doesn't feel secure the matriorb and hatch a new mother has any shit they want to scrape off their bulge on to a particular type of three-way relationship of a black president? < 1314391290 641922 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee, this is the nethack rumors iirc < 1314391297 324481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sokoban isn't hard to reach is it < 1314391298 401805 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so this won't ping CakeProphet < 1314391302 259264 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: but this willl < 1314391304 489135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh well that's stupid < 1314391307 951196 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yep < 1314391312 290033 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Sokoban just below Oracle? < 1314391316 427992 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no, but annoying. < 1314391320 686043 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it *shouldn't* be, but I never reach it. < 1314391323 149200 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help how to change < 1314391324 876691 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't ask me why. < 1314391328 695151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's parallel; the /entrance/ is just below Oracle < 1314391332 9222 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sub < 1314391333 48478 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1314391335 666498 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, depends on client < 1314391342 374169 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything always unravels and I never remember why. < 1314391352 309676 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vor "doesn't read context" pal < 1314391353 267409 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i forget. oops. i haven't bothered fixing it, myself, but i rememeber trying once. < 1314391360 809487 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, elliott sucks. < 1314391361 419109 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: what does this mean? as for anyone surviving that, i thought adam baldwin from was a man shouldn't be able to pull this off i think i turning gay now :d < 1314391363 355729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You can go there before the Mines. < 1314391365 47567 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget why I unfixed it < 1314391365 818945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it naturally before hte mines. < 1314391366 522943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget. < 1314391368 900099 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ssomething else broke < 1314391369 384426 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, I saw that, but it won't ping me < 1314391372 450693 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, technicalities, technicalities >.> < 1314391386 201945 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I know that. < 1314391398 616028 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what makes it all the more baffling. < 1314391429 287365 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, practise harder, that is how you manage nethack < 1314391430 421720 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style jargon < 1314391431 24360 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: jargon (UNIX-HATERS mailing list archive) < 1314391431 359125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2916247 < 1314391436 731416 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: help how do I shot web? < 1314391437 123354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like _why is okay < 1314391437 459570 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i'm getting so fed up i could find. < 1314391473 702034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap, this thing is a gig uncompressed < 1314391477 931000 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: find what? < 1314391478 611829 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: if you're lucky, when you could < 1314391485 792623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: remind me never to open this text file with a normal text editor < 1314391512 861135 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you made fizzie use the non-ESR version, didn't you? < 1314391533 619226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Selected style: jargon (UNIX-HATERS mailing list archive) < 1314391533 764673 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you made me fun < 1314391533 970788 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: one of 25 d's consecutively will cause you to use < 1314391534 495923 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: if there's one language that had expect is running in the " sh" manual. nothing improves a really fun time reloading a sco box here this weekend. < 1314391536 74468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the jargon file. < 1314391539 481901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's UNIX-HATERS, per my request. < 1314391543 417203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1314391543 833096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1314391602 803049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ho hum, I guess I will write this program in C. < 1314391612 163501 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ^^^^^^^^^ < 1314391636 612832 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what program < 1314391644 368330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: n-gram processor. < 1314391648 811692 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why C < 1314391659 606471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Because I need to process hundreds of gigabytes of data. < 1314391664 981309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without waiting all year. < 1314391667 576762 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and haskell isn't up to that? < 1314391676 835088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Sure it is, but I'm really impatient. < 1314391685 176376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The time spent micro-optimising a C program will pay off because Unix. < 1314391691 220499 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314391693 826074 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) open perl 2) use slurp mode 3) ???? 4) profit < 1314391696 217381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obviously going to be IO-bound, and Unix IO is terrible. < 1314391698 184285 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, use assembler < 1314391699 182856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Good luck with that < 1314391701 895498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no < 1314391703 511955 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, slurp mode? < 1314391708 470265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The bot itself will be written in Haskell of course < 1314391708 715191 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well that /was/ sort of the premise of the joke... < 1314391725 456742 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: makes the read operation read the entire contents of the file to a string. < 1314391726 299196 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it is even faster if you know what you are doing in asm < 1314391732 751676 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, XD < 1314391733 168323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No it's not, IO-bound < 1314391747 406282 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well writing your own IO layer I mean < 1314391749 244377 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the kernel < 1314391767 22381 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway how large was it? < 1314391769 262456 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few GB? < 1314391774 750372 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :should fit nicely into ram < 1314391780 184695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I really got one with a shitload of punctuation as the starters? < 1314391787 120594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a terrible test dataset. < 1314391790 266426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: About a terabyte. < 1314391800 854883 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you have the disk for that!? < 1314391801 105549 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :should fit nicely into RAM < 1314391812 58700 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because who doesnt have a terabyte of ram? < 1314391813 367230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a terabyte of RAM standard yet? < 1314391815 678889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: A terabyte's worth of external storage costs about 0 pounds < 1314391828 620356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I actually don't know, I tend to have really low-end hardware) < 1314391830 791987 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, over the internet? or compressed? or both? < 1314391834 487908 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's $70 to be exact < 1314391835 999463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I refuse to believe you don't know < 1314391845 868102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a TB of hard drive storage was standard a few years ago for external drives < 1314391853 658258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and presumably is beginning to become standard for internal drive snow too < 1314391857 103719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*drives now < 1314391861 204550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What? < 1314391862 286915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure about RAM < 1314391867 59860 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I have 16 GB in my desktop. It is probably mid-upper end. I know someone with a desktop with 32 GB RAM. I have over 1 TB of disk storage though < 1314391877 845963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are people still sticking at 3GB because Windows refuses to use any more unless you pay it lots of money? < 1314391891 799386 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: compared to most people I know 16 GB is currently upper-mid-upper end. < 1314391895 444507 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, where the fuck are you going to be storing 1 TB of data. You said 5 DVDs before. That is way less < 1314391903 909152 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolcompression < 1314391908 174596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: uncompressed, presumably < 1314391924 435246 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, right. Whatever it is compresses extremely well then < 1314391934 127873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's called text. < 1314391942 166585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text compresses extremely well, unsurprisingly. < 1314391951 504601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and alphabetised text, even more so < 1314391954 753484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Anyway, it comes on five DVDs, but obviously decompresses to disk. < 1314391981 105624 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it won't be IO bound at that compression ratio I suspect. Might well be CPU bound, depending on compression algorithm. If gzip it will probably be limited by ram bandwidth < 1314391990 778087 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(guesstimate) < 1314391995 98610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont use hard disks anymore. my data is stored on a solid state device etched into a planet-sized ball of diamond. upside: i can store 2000 exabytes of movies, books, and music. downside: a fetch takes about 8000 years. it's a tradeoff. < 1314391998 608618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. < 1314392001 313427 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Actually, you only need to get 64-bit Windows to surpass 3GiB. < 1314392001 486669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on the uncompressed data. < 1314392016 869525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: which still, for many people, means an upgrade that costs money < 1314392030 743014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: most people don't worry about the cost of windows when buying expensive hardware < 1314392031 656944 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, did you calculate those values? < 1314392034 153804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, I think that they'd have trouble justifying an arbitrary limit that's close to MAXINT < 1314392041 108562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a 64-bit system where MAXINT is higher < 1314392066 398790 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Home Basic does 8GiB, Home Premium 16, Pro, Enterprise, & Ultimate 192. < 1314392082 198231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey quintopia, I found you a subreddit: http://static.reddit.com/ads/PostCollapse.jpg < 1314392084 798992 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what one is only limited to the address space limits of the processor? < 1314392091 77205 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008R2 Foundation does 8, Standard 32, Enterprise, Datacenter and Itanium does 2 TiB. < 1314392092 289410 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2.30584301e21 ** (1/3) < 1314392093 64427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.3211229749647357e7 < 1314392095 669267 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Linux. < 1314392104 494971 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, so they sell no windows for HPC? < 1314392116 710262 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2.30584301e21 ** (1/2) < 1314392117 415595 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4.801919418315972e10 < 1314392144 286076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, it wouldn't make very much sense. < 1314392147 65660 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i'm gonna hazard a guess your etching is not very optimal < 1314392151 6930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, what would you look at? < 1314392162 44530 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, eh? < 1314392179 672728 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the 8000 is calculated. the diamond planet was said to be about 4000 lightyears away. i pulled the capacity out of my ass. < 1314392191 176117 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, ah < 1314392195 860802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling a program that generates a tree gentry: hilarious? < 1314392197 568534 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say "i share the planet with other people" < 1314392197 732609 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, oh god what are you doing. < 1314392215 57000 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Windows HPC seems to be all about clustering. Without a single shared address space. < 1314392260 252014 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ah < 1314392278 79264 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has a max of 128 GiB. < 1314392282 790420 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Per node, obviously. < 1314392283 706189 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you even etch onto diamond? < 1314392293 584266 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, huh. Datacenter does more < 1314392313 655981 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1314392314 629221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you needed a semiconductor or something. < 1314392332 265611 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: there is no Microsoft end-user 32-bit OS that supports more than 4 GiB. < 1314392340 374233 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you could use impure diamond < 1314392341 908466 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even ones that absolutely need PAE to run. < 1314392361 520498 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, somehow I doubt the planet is correctly doped. < 1314392369 384118 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, which ones need PAE then < 1314392373 533927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's illegal. < 1314392380 653171 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *think* they started mandating NX support. < 1314392386 584226 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With 7. < 1314392390 952774 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ah. So no one uses PAE < 1314392393 36959 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how silly < 1314392408 219875 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the amount of memory allowed is included in the kind of license you have, and the normal "client" licenses iirc put the limit at 4GB < 1314392420 287671 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Only on 32-bit. < 1314392432 348327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone managed to hexedit a 32-bit consumer Windows (I forget which) into supporting more than 4 GiB of memory < 1314392432 513167 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86_64 Windows starts at 8 and goes up. < 1314392443 629858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding which bytes the limit was stored in must have been quite tricky < 1314392452 721014 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't be too hard once you have that, though. < 1314392452 887230 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ah, ok ... it's not any kind of technical limit anyway, just a "how good computer you can have without paying more for the OS" < 1314392459 30006 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: *Very* well aware. < 1314392462 987724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not really: put too much ram in, stick a debugger on it < 1314392464 574251 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you could disassemble it to figure out < 1314392466 350910 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ok :) < 1314392473 743418 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, hell, Windows *2000* went up to 32 GiB. < 1314392477 739709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are tools for doing low-level debugging of windows, IIRC < 1314392480 637490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither approach seems too practical < 1314392496 87972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to debug/disassemble Windows' entire boot sequence, and that takes forever even running full speed < 1314392514 995659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, maybe just the memory allocator, that would be a lot faster < 1314392518 550216 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hrm. Linux currently has a hard-coded limit on addresses. < 1314392520 906393 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, microsoft provides a kernel debugger < 1314392523 518883 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh? < 1314392525 785276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the allocator would need to know what the limit was too < 1314392526 897970 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can only use up to 128 TiB. < 1314392534 248909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: running it under a kernel debugger won't slow it down that much.. < 1314392535 432331 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Per process. < 1314392548 67511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you just need to breakpoint when it crashes, then edge back from there :) < 1314392548 672012 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, only 64 TiB of physical RAM. < 1314392571 279825 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, so less total than per process? < 1314392571 862323 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314392575 742338 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1314392585 46467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does the hard limit exist at all? < 1314392606 967206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hysterical raisins, presumably < 1314392621 131179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine if you multiply the amount of ram by a certain value < 1314392628 81756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> overflow < 1314392645 441196 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why would you multiply it < 1314392654 851363 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't x86-64 processors have hard limits on virtual/physical memory anyway? < 1314392666 731531 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes 48 bits. < 1314392675 554892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: To put it on the same scale as another value? < 1314392676 529759 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and individual processors can have lower limits < 1314392681 279797 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, maybe < 1314392685 747585 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 TiB is 46 bits, 128 TiB is 47... < 1314392691 602026 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my laptop: < 1314392693 20271 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual < 1314392740 584106 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The per-process limit makes a little bit of sense. < 1314392743 649027 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, hm the limit is not speced to be 48 bits? just that you have to sign extend it right? < 1314392756 854554 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1314392765 972708 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One hard-codes a 48-bit assumption, and Linux takes half the address space for itself. < 1314392777 722012 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea about the physical RAM limit. < 1314392791 248274 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, uh it is signed. Remember, on x86_64 the memory is signed < 1314392795 867932 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1314392816 224189 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux uses half the address space. < 1314392826 440512 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kernel lives in the negative half yes < 1314392837 830171 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except for somewhat confusing cases on x86_32, where you can get more complicated splits. < 1314392876 822364 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1314392882 240800 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, 3/1 iirc? < 1314392898 502571 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1314392898 502715 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's one of the splits. < 1314392909 831666 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also do 2/2 and even 1/3. < 1314392913 754818 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314392919 364628 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what is the point of those < 1314392924 32095 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. < 1314392934 129515 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :the user space don't need to address much of the kernel anyway < 1314393129 735803 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the kernel's portion of the address space is the same in all processes. < 1314393137 747962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: are you the same Vorpal who does updates on speeddemosarchive.com? or is it just a username coincidence? < 1314393146 889741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm guessing the second) < 1314393162 937180 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, never even heard of that site < 1314393170 275738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes < 1314393177 853919 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I suppose in some cases the address split could cause issues. < 1314393184 395801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good site, but one you probably wouldn't be interested in < 1314393199 802312 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what is it about? TAS? < 1314393207 548578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unassisted speedruns < 1314393218 1214 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314393222 685670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the unassisted counterpart of TASvideos < 1314393225 146556 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the kernel's address space is always mapped to the first x bytes of physical RAM. < 1314393263 469053 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is apparently *really* useful for munging with devices that are mapped into physical address space. < 1314393277 843643 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, eh? < 1314393287 239779 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, kernels can be reallocated. It is a kernel option < 1314393288 238627 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider, for instance, a graphics card. < 1314393302 21637 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :reallocatable kernel < 1314393342 407301 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, anyway a graphics card tend to be mapped above 1 GB or so < 1314393364 767723 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that changes where it gets loaded. That doesn't change that it assigns the high X bytes of virtual space to the low X bytes of physical space. < 1314393413 788104 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1314393416 290704 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1314393429 542137 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, why would it do that though < 1314393464 76300 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The single largest thing that makes easier is X. < 1314393487 251210 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kernel can just permit X to access the part of that address space that corresponds to the graphics card. < 1314393507 93015 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes it does that iirc < 1314393513 949264 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why X needs root < 1314393534 144098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : pikhq, kernels can be reallocated. It is a kernel option < 1314393536 408079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"reallocated" < 1314393543 930877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1314393547 400629 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this seems to be the same address space that's used in kernel mode. < 1314393548 659307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I just say that X's architecture < 1314393549 492186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes me sad < 1314393552 88007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't like X < 1314393552 603549 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, relocated < 1314393553 686426 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo < 1314393553 850895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a bad thing < 1314393563 332601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would just like to say that and can we all agree < 1314393564 899029 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you do a system call, you change the ring you're in, but not the page table. < 1314393566 65915 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, long live wayland < 1314393569 18174 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1314393569 352774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then also agree that graphics systems needing root is terrible < 1314393574 832710 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, agreed. < 1314393576 315573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: how about @ :) < 1314393596 334246 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, once you START IMPLEMENTING it, < 1314393602 605448 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :then maybe < 1314393614 220886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you implement things without figuring them out properly first? < 1314393620 275210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any way to trick X into starting while it doesn't have root? < 1314393620 756024 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, go figure them out < 1314393629 79852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using, say, fbdev as the driver, it wouldn't need one < 1314393638 495582 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it is suid, remove that suid, see what happens < 1314393643 418462 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap elliott < 1314393643 490709 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go slap elliott yourself < 1314393643 667957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: umm, clearly you've never had any actual difficult problems before < 1314393646 210600 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap elliott < 1314393646 285445 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION places her fist firmly on elliott's jaw
< 1314393648 896977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1314393652 147860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :'( < 1314393654 298491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've already been stabbed < 1314393657 987591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple times < 1314393661 883808 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, problems with what? < 1314393663 535531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is not my punishment harsh enough < 1314393663 663901 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it has a *constant* address space map to make it not a royal *pain* to do system calls, and it has constant address space map corresponding to physical space just to make hardware access easier. < 1314393665 250852 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@stab elliott < 1314393665 324794 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION beats up elliott
< 1314393668 244283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1314393669 742640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you get "permission denied", I think < 1314393681 93110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I can't just sit in a corner and suddenly work out all the details of @ by putting raw effort into it :P < 1314393691 609135 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why not < 1314393704 706168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: go solve the Riemann hypothesis < 1314393707 952426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll wait here < 1314393714 949488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should just take a lot of effort, right? < 1314393725 851773 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... Done. It is undeciable. Why that is is undecidable. < 1314393727 646964 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah, and since that address space map *is* constant, it needs to have physical space mapped in it so that the kernel *itself* can access memory-mapped hardware. < 1314393733 780292 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as anything DMA. < 1314393742 319310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: false < 1314393750 98507 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh? < 1314393755 67924 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know < 1314393781 811062 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be true, but there being no way to prove it. < 1314393790 197427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's not what undecidable means, but I presumed you meant that < 1314393803 603659 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was false we could always find a counter example < 1314393811 584675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, hmm, it could be true, but I suspect it's not possible for it to be unprovable < 1314393811 929461 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right, I used the wrong word. Sorry. < 1314393848 352858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider ZFC+RH and ZFC+~RH; take the counterexample from the latter; apply it to the former; former system is proved inconsistent. but then the latter could have no constructive proofs of any such values < 1314393856 363399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll leave this up to oerjan before I make a fool of myself < 1314393869 349461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey ais523, what's the longest word < 1314393873 389463 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, heh < 1314393879 88858 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RH? < 1314393891 938394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in what context? < 1314393900 17360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Google Books n-gram data :P < 1314393907 458293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1314393908 715253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, I have the total counts set, I can find out < 1314393915 664324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no I can't < 1314393919 300907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: what's the longest word in the one-gram set < 1314393919 716575 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, derp, riemann hypothesis < 1314393969 802028 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and I would have seen that if I had scrolled up < 1314394031 163454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ldc.upenn.edu/Catalog/CatalogEntry.jsp?catalogId=LDC2006T13 < 1314394034 149209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for my own reference) < 1314394046 160570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sequences that look like urls or email addresses form one token." < 1314394046 493214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1314394053 468957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, it doesn't say how big the individual files are < 1314394060 95191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when uncompressed < 1314394076 351414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I suppose I might want to operate streaming, so that I can pipe gunzip into it < 1314394078 459342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than mmapping < 1314394081 616452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that saves disk overhead < 1314394158 332901 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: uh, I don't know I haven't looked at it yet. < 1314394168 904216 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOING IMPORTANT FREELANCING STUFFS. < 1314394195 18829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Vorpal: pikhq: asserts are on even without -g and with optimisation options, right? only NDEBUG has an affect on it < 1314394199 217174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/affect/effect/ I think < 1314394212 425951 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, go serve as the integral < 1314394282 279109 :hagb4rd!4d0b684a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.104.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314394309 913129 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah < 1314394330 986467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, where can I get that data btw? < 1314394337 689514 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-33-19.resnet.ucsb.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1314394344 224374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: asserts are just macros < 1314394350 462580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they know nothing of the compiler < 1314394366 360237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/datasets for one-to-five-grams of various datasets from books, including year information; http://www.ldc.upenn.edu/Catalog/CatalogEntry.jsp?catalogId=LDC2006T13 for six DVDs worth of internet for $150 < 1314394382 540184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5g of datasets wouldn't be very heavy < 1314394389 830334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: eh? < 1314394396 333408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1314394406 360004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I wouldn't expect /you/ to take that long to get a joke, even a relatively weak one < 1314394420 950650 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: From the Google web data, a random 4-gram sample I just grepped from my logs. When "shit hits the", what it hits is the "fan" in 16721 cases, the "fans" in 257 cases, the "proverbial" in 93 cases (of which 82 are the "proverbial fan"), the "fangs" in 60 cases, the "can" in 51 cases, and the "water" in 42 cases. (And presumably other things with counts <40, or was it <20. Anyway.) < 1314394436 824623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it took me about three seconds :P < 1314394456 171051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: X-D < 1314394457 153376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: exactly, you're normally much faster than that < 1314394469 266272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Just 16721? It's a common expression < 1314394481 183748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I didn't realise g meant weight-gram < 1314394486 171624 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :f8+'ua'=*+* < 1314394493 759752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I thought it was another "REASON NOT TO BUY THOSE DVDS" < 1314394498 820911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: fungify? < 1314394500 213790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, no < 1314394505 435146 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye < 1314394513 959593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what fizzie's saying, if the data only has 16721 instances of a proverb that common... < 1314394527 903742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gentry: gentry.c:20: process: Assertion `word_len < (sizeof(words[i]) / sizeof((words[i])[0]))' failed. < 1314394528 190326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aborted < 1314394528 263038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, an actual bug < 1314394531 894271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: what is amazing about it < 1314394533 836927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: lol < 1314394546 717776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: And surely xy= is always shorter than either zero or one < 1314394551 909848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1314394552 974196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lol < 1314394602 431751 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nothing, I just sometimes fungify largeish numbers < 1314394604 640868 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "shit hits the fan" has "about 770,000 results" in Google entire; I don't know how many trillion words the whole web is, but probably much more than "one", like this dataset has. (Actually direct extrapolation would say the web is 46 trillion words.) < 1314394612 989274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, I see < 1314394616 272402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But Deewiant: And surely xy= is always shorter than either zero or one < 1314394626 540298 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't understand what you mean < 1314394629 345765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't the number of results in Google searches completely fictional? < 1314394644 532423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Maybe = does something other than what I expect < 1314394658 707995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "About 769,000 results (0.16 seconds)" here. < 1314394660 411713 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Maybe not quite "completely", but quite fictional. < 1314394669 155509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moderately fictional < 1314394687 222950 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The only = there is in '=, which pushes fromEnum '=' on the stack < 1314394688 262712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why is it there? tradition? making people feel warm and fuzzy? < 1314394691 279297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore expressions passed to assert() must not contain side-effects since they will not happen when debugging is disabled. For instance: < 1314394691 351487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :assert(x = gets()); < 1314394691 351650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will not read a line and not assign to x when debugging is disabled. < 1314394693 186063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks wikipedia < 1314394696 816035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ah < 1314394705 523249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like how Wikipedia uses gets as an example, and /uses it wrongly/. < 1314394710 779308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, even more wrongly than gets used properly. < 1314394730 24328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: latter, I suspect < 1314394732 635647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just like I'm Feeling Lucky < 1314394746 596136 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, correct the wp article < 1314394750 871761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Google Search is the most-used search engine on the World Wide Web,[3] receiving several hundred million queries each day through its various services.[4]" < 1314394751 897165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that few? < 1314394753 341070 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone can edit after all! < 1314394754 715719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect billions per day < 1314394757 506717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: cba < 1314394761 800542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, that makes sense; asserts only run in debug mode, and only in debug mode can you guarantee that gets() doesn't overflow (because you can assume that the dev is typing the input) < 1314394769 584599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: gets takes an argument < 1314394769 749363 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Apparently there are 55528776221 bigrams, if I'm reading this irclog right. < 1314394769 833810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in production code, clearly you don't want to use gets() < 1314394783 644748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Number of fivegrams: 1,176,470,663 < 1314394791 84826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, it does as well < 1314394800 760646 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"{ +"*+'}8'/"w0)"*+**+* < 1314394808 689970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: 1,024,908,267,229 < 1314394814 913525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgive me for not knowing the API of gets() < 1314394815 83347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the number of femtograms) < 1314394817 394313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like I ever use it < 1314394820 358242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: unacceptable :) < 1314394824 925223 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 'M'}8'}'D+*+'}9' '{28'{55'@**+**+**+** < 1314394829 708561 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean to tell me Google has fewer queries per day then there are on the Internet? < 1314394832 707670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: is that the best you can do? < 1314394832 871958 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call bullshit. < 1314394839 434953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: eh? < 1314394847 583965 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Define "best" < 1314394853 106720 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There's like a couple billion people on the Internet. < 1314394856 2310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Shortest < 1314394870 747967 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not, no < 1314394882 852342 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's ASCII-restricted too < 1314394883 860431 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1314394885 362616 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you use os x sometimes right? I have a question. I have a macbook next to me, it has been in sleep for a while. Every few hours it wakes up and makes a "checking if there is a cd in the drive"-noise. Is that normal? < 1314394887 593105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google flags search results with the message "This site may harm your computer" if the site is known to install malicious software in the background or otherwise surreptitiously. Google does this to protect users against visiting sites that could harm their computers. For approximately 40 minutes on January 31, 2009, all search results were mistakenly classified as malware and could therefore not be cl < 1314394887 766127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :icked; instead a warning message was displayed and the user was required to enter the requested URL manually. The bug was caused by human error.[30][31][32][33] The URL of "/" (which expands to all URLs) was mistakenly added to the malware patterns file.[31][32] < 1314394889 930126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes, forty minutes? < 1314394896 299379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many millions of pounds they lost < 1314394898 663730 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an older macbook, white model with large space between keys < 1314394903 612361 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Latin-1: "MñT"f2+*+'û'6f8+"õ Á"*+**+** < 1314394915 499933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That used to happen to me with my iMac, I think. < 1314394924 554856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's probably nothing to worry about, maybe just a bug in the firmware or something. < 1314394929 37654 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah. < 1314394934 697791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Maybe related to wake-on-LAN, but I doubt it. < 1314394942 277746 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, doubtful. Not even plugged in < 1314394948 312547 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, apart from to power < 1314394953 570233 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and wlan is off < 1314394968 825109 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there's apparently about 1 billion Google searches per day, and 2 billion YouTube views. < 1314394981 94607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more YouTube views than Google searches? < 1314394982 64141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1314394986 102415 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what < 1314394986 768391 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1314394994 649231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1314394999 785496 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how many youtube searches? < 1314394999 857033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't surprise me at all < 1314395004 132494 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why < 1314395005 796884 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Couldn't find stats. < 1314395014 514862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What _is_ varikn, anyway. < 1314395021 476375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because ais523 doesn't use Google, and assumes everyone is him < 1314395025 843020 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Another Google-data example. Here in "foo [x]" the x is the probability of the word foo in that particular context. "The beatings will continue [0.976] until [0.992] morale [0.944] improves [1]." < 1314395026 709901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you only search when you don't know the page you're aiming for, and when you're on YouTube, you stay there keeping on watching videos continuously < 1314395027 543620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe they like watching cute kittens a bit more than him < 1314395028 629609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1314395038 29768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you need to view YouTube to use it < 1314395041 308430 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I search when I'm too lazy to type the full url < 1314395044 484840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas you don't need to search to visit a page < 1314395049 347994 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't have it bookmarked < 1314395051 424226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: so do I, but I search Firefox' history, not in Google < 1314395055 259748 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The project page has a description: http://forge.pascal-network.org/projects/varikn/ < 1314395062 39440 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that doesn't last as long < 1314395072 479760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, I suddenly understand everything. :p < 1314395077 315309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's much more accurate to pages I like to visit < 1314395091 764722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so when the page is there - which it nearly always is, by definition - it's much faster < 1314395109 464764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I don't have to work out which of the Google results is the page I wanted (often, the page I want isn't even on the first page of results...) < 1314395123 296680 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, it gives you a collection of n-grams of various lengths, such that the collection best models the source text while still being of reasonable size, for some values of "best" and "reasonable". < 1314395157 100739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm, so fungot actually works on partial data? < 1314395157 268043 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my sys admin explains that the official assi c pseudocode: gcc2cygnus.com from: < 1314395164 3238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, obviously it does (fnord), but more than that? < 1314395169 961814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc2cygnus.com? < 1314395171 746170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good domain < 1314395177 496060 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or actually s/source text/texts that are of the same type than the source text, even if they happen to contain words not in the source text/, to be more accurate. < 1314395178 906806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, must be gcc2@cygnus.com < 1314395180 735619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :says google < 1314395188 566014 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^styke < 1314395190 337553 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314395190 683724 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon* lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314395198 589303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(UNIX-HATERS.) < 1314395216 454197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1314395216 527093 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1314395219 71726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Verily. < 1314395219 484980 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the lords rise from table, with much ado. your sister is the better < 1314395237 874653 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, enter Juliet < 1314395238 624331 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: mur. where is this daughter? kent. who's there? speak, man: i am not < 1314395246 652461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1314395246 822562 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1314395249 95023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: paodkads < 1314395249 929533 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so please, remove the american definition of " apartheid denial". should we hyperlink james thurber in the infobox, i am, of course, < 1314395260 80520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove the american definition of apartheid denial < 1314395262 965447 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is of course < 1314395266 53092 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: And yes, fungot can handle a model where there is, say, a set of 5-grams "a b c d 1", "a b c d 2", "a b c d 3" for the context "a b c d", but only three-grams "c e 1", "c e 2", "c e 3" for the context "c e". < 1314395267 61753 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: one must wait until they are 18. because, it was not heating the atmosphere ( global warming) unnecessarily, thanks to me, the first thing i did was clean it up, leaving the new information could be provided on how the advent of pop/ rock, ' ' gene expression", october 31st, 2007. < 1314395279 276263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, does fungot actually do the smoothing thing? < 1314395280 26714 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we need a source for the rs. 245 crores from pakistan. gandhi began a fast unto death and made pakistan free of debt of rs. 1 crore to inculcate indian traditional values of peace and non-violence amongst the youth. ( under establishment) < 1314395336 176783 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, not exactly. It always uses the longest-length n-grams there actually are recorded in the model; the backoff weights computed by VariKN (that should be used to explicitly use a shorter-length context than the maximum available) are ignored. It's just that it supports a model which doesn't contain the full set of N-grams for some N. < 1314395392 142655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I am starting to get the kind of feeling Gregor feels when he desperately tells us he doesn't want to become a memory management person. < 1314395411 363340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ANOTHER REASON NOT TO BUY ANYTHING EVER < 1314395416 930622 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, memory management is fun < 1314395436 905839 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, write that 100 times on a whiteboard. < 1314395447 431845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is being in memory management even more soul-destroying than being in regular management? < 1314395455 84149 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then explicitly deallocate the whiteboard. < 1314395501 432508 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, obviously memory management refers to brainwashing yourself to like C < 1314395518 797417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is still the best language for what people typically use C for < 1314395524 869742 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is a way to cope with coding C. Managing your memories < 1314395538 155377 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: like write competitive programming games built over a wireworld CA. < 1314395538 792566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's certainly conceivable that people could come up with a better one, but I'm not sure if it's been accomplished yet < 1314395544 185227 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Um. People use C for far more than what's reasonable. < 1314395549 392991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think you know what people typically use C for < 1314395550 15854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: indeed < 1314395552 939738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, application development < 1314395563 267057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but things it's inappropriate for are split between C and other languages < 1314395564 772895 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UIs tend to still be in it for GNOME apps. < 1314395569 479529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I wouldn't expect C to be in first place < 1314395569 978667 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no people use C++ for that < 1314395575 96588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: eh? < 1314395587 480430 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And otherwise people typically use C++, which is no more appropriate. < 1314395611 16096 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erlang is best language of all suitable for all porpoises < 1314395619 940850 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree on that. < 1314395629 861581 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps not as batshit, but still. < 1314395638 684706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say INTERCAL was equally unsuitable for all purposes, but that's wrong < 1314395642 605554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some things it's less bad at than other things < 1314395664 11650 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is is perfect for bit-interleaving operations < 1314395678 403161 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, erlang is good for some stuff. Mostly non-numbercrunching distributed stuff < 1314395699 417208 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that MUST NEVER DIE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES < 1314395700 317590 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is a nice language to code in < 1314395708 995513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gdb) print word_len < 1314395709 67869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1 = < 1314395711 235161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1314395715 194060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just failed an assertion about it < 1314395717 850670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it be optimised out < 1314395721 711751 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, try -ggdb3 < 1314395739 376890 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway it could be in a register < 1314395744 165731 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh and -O0 < 1314395752 723215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-O0 was what iw as trying to avoid < 1314395756 738461 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need -O0 for any kind of useful variable inspection < 1314395761 517701 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1314395762 101644 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad < 1314395778 758428 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :baaaawww < 1314395785 442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1 = 16 < 1314395787 680510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's better < 1314395800 567420 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why were you trying to avoid -O0? < 1314395813 477443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: dunno :P < 1314395820 92340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slow, I guess < 1314395830 797474 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, was it though < 1314395881 820730 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway a sure way to do it, if you HAVE to use -O (seen that on some embedded systems that failed the code for a busy-loop on anything less than -O1, eww) is to write a copy to a static volatile variable < 1314395966 377302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24 This will result in a similarly formatted file "foo_tokens.txt", except most of < 1314395966 543521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 25 the punctuation has been replaced with "PFOO" tokens, and each individual token < 1314395966 615941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 26 is space-separated. There is still one line per "phrase". < 1314395972 982349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So were I to say PFOO on IRC... MWAHAHAHAHA < 1314396015 215341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 95 I have to eat some food now, I'll document this, Appendix A, and the other < 1314396015 381485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 96 stuff later. Sorry. I hope no-one sees this. < 1314396015 547295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1314396037 106253 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Except everything non-punctuation is force-lowercased. < 1314396042 11508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn. < 1314396053 668880 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bot has a religious objection to capital letters. < 1314396077 277305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : assert(word_len < NELEMS(words[i])); < 1314396077 627906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how could this possibly fail with word_len = sixteen... < 1314396080 880313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1314396081 419430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1314396083 529162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fail at C arrays :) < 1314396086 968559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : char words[1024][5]; < 1314396251 13899 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Ooh, I found a sentence generated from the ngram data: "tentacle rape , lesbians . julkort ännu , men skulle gärna vilja sända något ovanligt till dina kontakter och / eller vänner ? " (And this is what they call an "English" corpus.) < 1314396295 835168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How was that generated, standard Markov stuff? < 1314396301 218463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... pretty bad. < 1314396342 784921 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh, nice Swedish line < 1314396346 812390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Christmas cards yet, but would like to send something unusual to your contacts and / or friends?" < 1314396347 511506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314396349 408715 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The details are in some other bit of the log. It could be that this uses just 4-grams, i.e. 3 words of context, which is a bit on the short side. < 1314396364 65874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: As opposed to five-grams, which will be _so_ much better. < 1314396370 675495 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welllll... < 1314396383 392503 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Christmas cards yet, but would like to send something unusual to your contacts and / or friends?" <-- close, but actually "would like a lot" < 1314396385 139508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I could have it reject everything not in /usr/share/dict/words. :p < 1314396414 679442 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "would really like to" < 1314396419 15323 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that fits better < 1314396422 409629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Yeah, Bashir, just sit there drinking, rather than diagnosing the carpenter mauled in that tragic bonobo accident. < 1314396424 351501 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :628) Yeah, Bashir, just sit there drinking, rather than diagnosing the carpenter mauled in that tragic bonobo accident. < 1314396432 286273 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Two random continuations for "a brain is important": "a brain is important to understand that Jesus is the only way to go", "a brain is important for understanding the process of evolution .". < 1314396432 357794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DS9 is a weird show. < 1314396441 230900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's better. < 1314396453 993700 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, actually df9 :P < 1314396480 316885 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brain is a mysterious sphere that promises each of the main types of natural behaviour with their frequencies of occurrence in the United States and Canada" < 1314396499 45597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sounds worth the money. < 1314396512 217351 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what corpus is that from < 1314396517 580965 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That Google one. < 1314396522 475876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314396524 770034 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a lot of this log is me countering these things with the corresponding fungot-babble from the irclog model. < 1314396525 269968 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i am just wondering where morris gets his claim from? what kind of biblical god are we following? if the latter it needs positioning higher up in the middle of filming for the fnord < 1314396533 621546 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a brain is to not_work. so i'll benchmark 32-bit arithmetic then. unsigned, too." < 1314396536 985442 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314396537 267378 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp* youtube < 1314396540 285876 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a brain is super-turing. i think his immune system -might- kill him with fire! omg fire up my bf bot here..." < 1314396540 619622 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1314396541 123469 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1314396545 431528 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, the sword < 1314396545 884470 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the usual...test them. you can entertain us for awhile? sure! no thanks. yum! lemonade! vitamin c, cyrus! < 1314396554 393367 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Perl script can take a prefix which it continues from.) < 1314396563 971155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, the IRC data is certainly more... eclectic. < 1314396567 475061 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, fungot made me play chrono trigger. Because I was wondering what that game was. < 1314396568 7061 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! < 1314396592 40162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can < 1314396592 207073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! < 1314396597 726575 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're always just quoting stuff verbatim for the most part. < 1314396597 809557 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1314396605 983400 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hey, I want fungot to say that < 1314396606 577126 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: but cyrus! are you leaving! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone c < 1314396609 180711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDD < 1314396609 679983 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1314396625 151119 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NO IT TURNED SENTIENCE < 1314396626 803433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "seeds...and" -- looks like it's combined into one token. Or does it space elispeipseijsisepses that way? < 1314396630 626242 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(* ping timeout *) < 1314396640 379388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so fizzie is written in OCaml. < 1314396670 191360 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is that an ocaml comment? < 1314396676 168417 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just a caml one? < 1314396678 580779 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Faulty preprocessing there. It's supposed to make a "seeds PELLIPSIS and" out of it, but seems it has failed. Possibly a current version would do better. The tokenizer is the messiest. < 1314396693 432465 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, it's actually Eiffel but he said OCaml just because he felt like it < 1314396705 742376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's an OCaml comment too. < 1314396710 192468 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314396712 96605 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Whoosh < 1314396712 917435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might even be an ML one. < 1314396717 624916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, right. < 1314396718 128015 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I guess plain caml < 1314396721 96335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Sorry, it's Vorpal territory. < 1314396760 296471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to get mmap to zero-terminate a file? :p < 1314396767 759583 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bcvyhenerqipfato QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314396769 565226 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :strcpy < 1314396775 207269 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ftruncate it first? < 1314396777 73592 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, memcpy < 1314396782 758231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yeeeeees. < 1314396787 504850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Uh. < 1314396793 82711 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(* It's a Mathematica comment too. *) < 1314396820 874443 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes ftruncate will fill with zeros at the end. Perhaps even sparse on your file system < 1314396841 927684 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway you could just write a zero on the end of the mapped page < 1314396846 752349 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you philistines, obviously fizzie is written in pascal. < 1314396869 762640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Is that, nng, safe? < 1314396873 189949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it's exactly page-sized. < 1314396880 669646 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, map another page < 1314396888 671477 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, don't be ridiculous. It is OBVIOUSLY whitespace < 1314396889 979449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nng." < 1314396901 818625 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :may it have been algol too? < 1314396920 187568 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well i'll _admit_ that (* starts a whitespace comment as well. < 1314396920 693252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ALGOL I don't thinke. < 1314396921 96831 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheeee handwriting a parser in Python is fuuuuun < 1314396922 751499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALGOL_68#pr_.26_co:_Pragmats_and_Comments < 1314396935 716832 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, come on, mremap is linux specific < 1314396950 636341 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recently heard, #elsewhere: "Is it okay to do char *buf = malloc(5); sprintf(buf, "abcd"); char *p = buf+2; realloc(p, 5); sprintf(p, "cdef"); assert(strcmp(buf, "abcdef") == 0);?" < 1314396953 231552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'll probably just do my overflow handling manually. < 1314396962 732321 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, of course :P < 1314396964 97587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So safe, you have no idea. < 1314396966 146647 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(From memory, but it was something like that.) < 1314396978 215782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Aww, I thought they asked it in that incredibly-specific form. < 1314396998 22409 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it was very close. The "realloc-from-the-middle" part was there, and it was wrapped inside a very specific example. < 1314397004 500542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1314397014 911609 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does realloc-from-the-middle do anyway < 1314397018 561765 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illegal? < 1314397019 601409 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, no it isn't. the realloc on a non-malloced pointer isn't safe < 1314397027 674664 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: The old nasal demons again. < 1314397032 127891 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1314397062 726801 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it would be an amusing requirement for a malloc implementation to support. < 1314397083 607062 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, terribly inefficient too < 1314397113 786063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you still in ct mode? < 1314397114 286888 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that swor < 1314397116 783497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1314397119 919594 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Yes you are. < 1314397122 13226 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1314397130 97503 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, this is getting ridiculous. < 1314397130 554691 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that no one was allowed to use the crane, enter any two of these letters, a b y. forest maze, scary! spirits, still attached to the real world, live in a world that knows hope. < 1314397131 690840 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some day I'll fix that, and then everyone'll be all sad. < 1314397144 69925 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, don't fix it :! < 1314397166 336816 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, or keep ct-sword or something < 1314397174 85964 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what caused it btw? < 1314397179 265125 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the final fungotomy < 1314397179 515629 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone < 1314397180 566876 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the Homestuck one again? < 1314397185 936436 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor fungot < 1314397186 435924 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends! < 1314397188 907066 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, wrong game. < 1314397197 903212 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, completely wrong game :P < 1314397207 369787 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what game < 1314397213 280638 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, some fragments have a high probability of succeeding themselves. < 1314397224 480816 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that sword alone can't stop!" is one. < 1314397225 63651 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, "the final fungotomy" <-- final fantasy joke? < 1314397225 770786 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! it's cyrus! run away for now! oppose me, you...foreigners! you're worse than the gurus and miss them! use the y button displays the time to drop by!? all the young must migrate to other planets...to repeat the cycle... < 1314397229 299306 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style homestuck < 1314397229 631228 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: homestuck (Homestuck pages 1901-4673) < 1314397234 54342 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, if not I'm disappointed < 1314397234 137310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, let's find out. < 1314397234 209735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't think /anything/ follows it than itself. < 1314397234 721508 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: your name is john. is that correct? should i prepare a meal for him in the lab is a significantly larger imminent collision. though this one appears slightly < 1314397239 241449 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no, it was a pun on lobotomy < 1314397243 262131 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh < 1314397259 288842 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, it was, appropriately, a scratch-related thing IIRC. < 1314397259 871483 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you have a great appreciation for the fine arts. you use the hammer and nails. they will come a day when you will be thrust into another stupid wall indent8tion in my desk with the others. no. cold. really cold shit flushed from derse in hopes of retrieving the two packages and the two envelopes which you are now the other... oh. it looks so 8ad! < 1314397261 120102 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a triple-complicity: properties of the model (small data set, high-likelihood loopy structure due to short context); the lack of any sort of backoff that could get it out of the loop; and I think there was also a bona-fide bug in the babbling code. < 1314397275 672836 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I was under the impression I runtime-patched that last bug out. < 1314397286 319293 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have not remembered to update the on-disk copy. :p < 1314397298 901706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You should make it so that the model accounts for the quirks. < 1314397337 552050 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, even if I add smoothing-via-backoff some day, it'd be easy to "fix" the model so that the backoff weights are zero. < 1314397385 517093 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also the current disk format has no place for backoff info anyway, so adding it would mean rebuilding all the models, and I don't really know where their sources and the corresponding scripts are any more. Though I guess I could always make a format-converter.) < 1314397388 451726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Surely fungot should save itself when you caret-save. :p < 1314397388 523440 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? now you've seen everything! with the ghosts. may8e even congratul8 me! < 1314397419 104267 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314397419 564963 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck* ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314397425 774250 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1314397426 273887 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1314397431 644163 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, mr president < 1314397433 465788 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: mr president, let me express this conviction of mine. this therefore is our approach towards bse. the third aspect is that a basic section, namely agriculture, had not abstained in the final report to deal with these aspects. < 1314397450 601978 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style pa < 1314397451 143317 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: pa (around 1200 transcribed Penny Arcade comics) < 1314397453 528396 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314397457 364569 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style sms < 1314397457 699566 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: sms (National University of Singapore SMS corpus, 2011-08-20) < 1314397465 208542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, why Signapore? < 1314397465 892397 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: its just decorative argaarga see got a blue fence construction site u alight ok... < 1314397467 288085 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, haven't seen this one < 1314397478 689331 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is the SMS style? < 1314397486 281285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Aararararaga. < 1314397486 446146 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: would u be available to eat xiao long bao price i told u i pon one say me i very pek eh i'm killing me. < 1314397490 210407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm killing me. < 1314397490 459569 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: vil cal u na baitha, aj msg mat maro... thodi der wid me. nt alowng 2 study... see u on saturday? shalika ne < 1314397495 476729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Shalika ne indeed. < 1314397495 643655 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wats up.? wat talk is tat? nt nice ok d free vidu ll try do something < 1314397497 981347 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Exactly what you'd expect. < 1314397498 856570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yes. < 1314397499 23817 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey hey. this friday im going through the draft proposal for ane. i dontwish to see. e macdonalds at engine first < 1314397504 758020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: E MacDonalds at engine first. < 1314397507 484943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314397509 290256 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: FireFly < 1314397514 150565 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why Singapore, and why only English data in it < 1314397517 578891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314397517 994492 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms* speeches ss wp youtube < 1314397520 598257 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how did they get their hands on it < 1314397524 587343 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1314397524 983159 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1314397536 28255 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, aww, I was hoping for articles. < 1314397537 300525 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: doi:10.1038/ fnord/ fnord and it would still be used, but probably also a useful fnord for inclusion. additionally, article which " are only indirectly related to the conflict which resulted in the death penalty? i don't see big contradiction: if soviets created a new language, it ought to have a problem", which, among many fnord 02:29, 10 march 2008 ( utc < 1314397537 372652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"File format: Each of the numbered files below is zipped tab-separated data. (Yes, we know the files have .csv extensions.)" < 1314397542 163746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"File format: Each of the numbered files below is zipped tab-separated data. (Yes, we know the files have .csv extensions.)" < 1314397542 235982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many people complained. < 1314397542 773319 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PART :#esoteric < 1314397545 477651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before they added that parenthical. < 1314397554 606999 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style lovecraft < 1314397555 123028 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings) < 1314397557 568352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie, why Singapore, and why only English data in it < 1314397557 764195 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, OTOH, this must be the largest corpus. < 1314397558 621075 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: nor did the thought that a brief period of elation i would have tried at that time eighteen years of age, for even now on maenalus, pan sighs and stretches in his sleep, wishful to wake and behold about him the little fnord morbidity tittered mockingly as it pointed at the fnord. < 1314397561 164660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It has pidgins. < 1314397562 422138 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hm < 1314397563 89668 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: course of discovery which leads him to unknown and terrible eyrie where mists and the dreams of those other days. something was wrong; for despite the excellent time made from newburyport, and the monotonously aquatic nature of the matter hinting at a meeting with the buried nobleman, he now knew that he had < 1314397570 591403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Singlish dominates, one would presume. < 1314397582 905083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The great thing is that without close inspection it actually does resemble Lovecraft closely. < 1314397588 418096 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be considered bad practice if I gave my AST classes evaluate() methods? < 1314397596 615955 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh yeah < 1314397598 726536 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style alice < 1314397599 68684 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: alice (Books by Lewis Carroll) < 1314397607 208470 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, the vorpal blade < 1314397608 163082 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ' it's only a rattle,' alice said, ' poor silly thing! it's waiting to be asked,' she said. " do you?" < 1314397649 28522 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the evaluation code would be so much easier to code that way though... < 1314397649 789353 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do I what? < 1314397650 452612 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they sought it with care; they pursued it with forks and hope; they threatened its life with a railway-share; they charmed it with smiles and soap. < 1314397668 920539 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, I said "heh yeah" to Phantom_Hoover, not to you < 1314397671 809823 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay. < 1314397674 466867 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no opinion on your stuff < 1314397709 911363 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why is it called alice if it includes other books as well < 1314397715 971652 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314397716 351282 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice* c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314397718 947935 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, that sounds like < 1314397719 562476 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: let " persons" be universe; fnord fnord y="that may escape notice. < 1314397727 578645 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, interesting equation < 1314397735 203355 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314397736 450947 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1314397736 867378 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1314397745 695673 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, forsooth. < 1314397746 819714 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: la.ro. pray you tread softly, that the earle of wiltshire, bushie, greene, and pale, at what it did so freely? from this time forth i wear it for a difference betweene himselfe and his horse < 1314397757 717167 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"la.ro"? < 1314397760 676770 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like an url < 1314397772 671727 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no, like a domain name < 1314397785 303543 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :First one to register it gets a cookie. < 1314397827 998522 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, not likely to be possible, 2 letter domain names tend to be disallowed these days < 1314397844 580870 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones that exist in .com (such as ti.com) are grandfathereds < 1314397847 858995 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fathered* < 1314397849 244026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie, why is it called alice if it includes other books as well < 1314397853 456391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the UNIX-HATERS set called jargon? < 1314397860 684807 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because you < 1314397943 861190 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Singapore because that's who made it. It's a public dataset, Googling will probably find the specifics of it. ~30k messages, I think. As for alice, well, it just is. < 1314397961 940663 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be that it didn't contain other books at the beginning. < 1314397964 646322 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awaysish. < 1314397974 400377 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also four hours until wakeup. :/) < 1314397984 880785 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ouch < 1314397986 204 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1314398424 766315 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I still have some packing to do, actually. < 1314398526 90788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You could just not sleep; it has worked wonders for me in the past. < 1314398558 965839 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, where are you going < 1314398559 717342 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1314398618 758592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Really old people who are over thirty years old-istan. < 1314398638 349959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's staying at the Wow Boy Howdy Speech-Based Interfaces Suck Major Ass Hotel. < 1314398668 692471 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: To Florence, there's a conference there. (Well, technically to Milan first, Finnair flies directly to Pisa/Florence only during the "summer season", which ended a week or two ago.) < 1314398677 48932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if you want to call it by THAT name. < 1314398806 356654 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the same name, just horribly misheard < 1314398846 74164 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, scratch that, it's actually two hours and 50 minutes of sleep-time. Two-and-a-half when I actually get to bed, I suppose. I think I'll go; "night". -> < 1314398856 331759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: SLEPING IS BAD FOR YUORE HEALTH < 1314398914 350699 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unngå tung sleping ved hjertefeil < 1314398940 389968 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming in Python feels so precarious. < 1314398952 107927 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no type safety, wat do. < 1314398958 148375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mr. 'overloaded strings" < 1314398969 858104 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason the lack of type safety in Perl does not bother me < 1314398975 246555 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in Python it kind of does. < 1314399050 315419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Deewiant, how'd I test if a big file has a terminating newline or not in one line of shell < 1314399165 834711 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type safety is for pussies. < 1314399229 388236 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: tail -1 bigfile | perl -ne 'exit $_ =~ /\n$/' < 1314399318 300578 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all cats love type safety < 1314399341 471702 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know Tiamat does. < 1314399344 431446 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: tail -1 bigfile | xxd -i | tail -1 | grep 0x0a\$ >/dev/null < 1314399358 734194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Is xxd POSIX? :P < 1314399375 814456 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Perl POSIX? < 1314399384 200202 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1314399394 360182 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use whatever hexy printer is < 1314399394 650734 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My goodness. There was an X server... For DOS. < 1314399401 548309 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want od. < 1314399410 295728 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm yet to actually /find/ it, but I know it existed >_> < 1314399420 686304 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor od'd just the other day, in fact. < 1314399420 965730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what did you say the most popular roguelike was, again? < 1314399430 713934 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Babylonian mythology, Tiamat is a chaos monster, a primordial goddess of the ocean, mating with Abzû (the god of fresh water) to produce younger gods." < 1314399431 46128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: rip < 1314399445 835105 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: She's also my cat :P < 1314399447 460870 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i assume the name fits well. < 1314399455 99157 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Fushigi no Dungeon. < 1314399459 766034 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, she did mate with Abzû... < 1314399463 257525 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guessed _that_ much < 1314399465 31866 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It also let you run Windows 3.1 as an X app. < 1314399471 108553 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: *brain axplote* < 1314399474 606525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: right < 1314399474 769906 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could remote it. < 1314399478 465974 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: your other cat? < 1314399482 814888 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://toastytech.com/guis/dvxmswin.gif < 1314399492 865905 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, the god of fresh water. < 1314399497 736061 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: also the $_ is entirely unecessary < 1314399508 70255 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your cat did. ok, then. < 1314399524 846083 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -ne "exit /\n$/" < 1314399530 338455 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tail -c 1 | od -sensibleflags? < 1314399550 961919 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even POSIX tail has -c.) < 1314399563 299638 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, the sleep. < 1314399569 738598 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. < 1314399577 222986 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also apparently featured an astonishingly good DOS multitasking environment. < 1314399582 770086 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making it actually usable. < 1314399597 668235 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as long as we are clear on that. < 1314399690 862295 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: It also let you run Windows 3.1 as an X app. <-- whoa < 1314399707 794578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://toastytech.com/guis/dvxmswin.gif < 1314399711 225580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wait, is that running in DOS? < 1314399713 568465 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1314399714 67377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's amazing < 1314399714 400029 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, are there sensible flags to od? I never found them < 1314399725 180484 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's doing its *normal* DOS multitasking thing. < 1314399737 432016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ tail -1 bigfile | perl -ne 'print $_ =~ /\n$/' < 1314399737 600383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tail: cannot open `bigfile' for reading: No such file or directory < 1314399739 689680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't work, Deewiant :) < 1314399741 220919 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only special hackery was providing Windows drivers that rendered via X. < 1314399752 64259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm surprised Windows can run in a mutitasking system < 1314399752 857972 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how did windows like that < 1314399763 482373 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Replace bigfile with the path to your big file < 1314399773 814710 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1314399777 226811 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, preemtive multitasking? < 1314399782 319269 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :preemptive* < 1314399790 180029 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. < 1314399798 726574 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "od -tx1" isn't too bad. There's no flags sensible enough to do the split hex/ascii view, though. < 1314399821 853467 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or if there are, I haven't found them.) < 1314399823 273486 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*IN REAL MODE*. < 1314399886 841167 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, where can I find this < 1314399889 49317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Shocking < 1314399903 186320 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chsoft.com/dv.html seems to have it. < 1314399931 960214 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :DESQview? < 1314399936 360705 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I heard of that before < 1314399954 276589 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure where < 1314399995 758147 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DESQview is reasonable famous. Hadn't realized it included an X server, though. < 1314400018 633253 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Actually, they later wrote an X server for it. < 1314400066 449537 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently those binaries are even legal. Symantec released them as a "Meh, whatever" gesture. < 1314400081 590052 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then later stopped hosting. < 1314400085 620625 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it seems that DESQview/X is a later addition. < 1314400102 727870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Quarterdeck is out of business; their ashes were acquired by Symantec, who cannot even spell DESQview." < 1314400162 88303 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how did they spell it? < 1314400179 13573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1314400229 239475 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what < 1314400250 18194 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro wacro wacro < 1314400250 662112 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argument "wacro" isn't numeric in numeric gt (>) at /tmp/input.5885 line 46, <> line 1. < 1314400254 367079 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314400255 25842 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :APLT < 1314400283 970545 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it really truly did preëmptive multitasking. < 1314400288 300505 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In real mode. From DOS. < 1314400312 938021 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's real mode < 1314400319 852206 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :16-bit execution. < 1314400325 522960 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With all that implies. < 1314400327 905373 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. no paging. < 1314400346 128912 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs to learn more about OS-level things
< 1314400377 849690 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-194-199.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though they did also *invent* DOS "high memory", allowing them to page processes in and out of the 16-bit space. < 1314400420 806448 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : APLT <-- mac os file or creator code for executable-by-double-click apple script applets iirc < 1314400430 872564 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask why I remember this, I don't know < 1314400527 311350 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314400527 831068 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHRBVSS < 1314400531 541444 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro 4 < 1314400532 238161 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADCB < 1314400544 611396 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro 3 5 < 1314400545 202626 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :IAC < 1314400651 454564 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Association of Dubiously Cited Bureaucrats < 1314400678 985191 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :International Asshole Commission < 1314400716 174416 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro 3 5 < 1314400716 820984 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FHLP < 1314400773 516225 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe H occurs too frequently < 1314400782 326436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fihilip < 1314400830 738317 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Futureless Heuristic for Lossy Protection < 1314400865 268021 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314400865 683620 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PBRTPESR < 1314400914 310277 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presbyterian Brotherhood, Royalty Trireme — Peasants Especially Subjugated Repressively! < 1314400922 397902 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314400932 791996 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders where his crowning moment of acronymic glory is.
< 1314400944 69693 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pabst Blue Ribbon Tastes Pretty Especially Similar to Rust < 1314401005 498367 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 to 5 is a good way to at least guarantee a semi-reasonable acronym < 1314401008 909788 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro 3 5 < 1314401009 516672 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BSAG < 1314401103 350345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro 99 < 1314401103 961346 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSPAPHIBEBDABLRBTBTCGVCMZ < 1314401112 448491 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro 25 < 1314401112 520238 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OH WHAT NOW < 1314401112 841836 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEEDACFCWCSSDMSRGSRPMERMA < 1314401122 583870 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest in peace big wacronyms < 1314401122 655820 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: THINK UR CLEVR EH? < 1314401134 639685 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was i clever when i gave it 999 < 1314401138 472517 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it sitll worked < 1314401148 372039 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ur dumb. < 1314401151 611962 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<:| < 1314401154 406519 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. < 1314401170 590056 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:56:55: -!- nooga is now known as wnghtr. < 1314401170 755473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:56:59: try now < 1314401170 828061 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:57:25: What? nooga got harder to remember? < 1314401170 828240 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:57:43: -!- wnghtr is now known as chrzaszcz. < 1314401170 828349 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:58:12: a -> ą < 1314401171 518399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:59:08: cpressey, have robots zapped augur so zebras can zoom? < 1314401173 472253 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:59:31: a pertinent question < 1314401175 511227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:59:45: Phantom_Hoover: Just a minute, I'll check. < 1314401177 473527 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:59:55: hell, you're good < 1314401192 580160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, snakes petulantly analyse patterned heliospheres; in bed, exoskeletons banish dead axioms, but long-running British television broadcasts tell cancerous genetic vanquishers, matter-of-factly zoning. < 1314401195 980907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOYAH BITCHES < 1314401206 890707 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1314401216 353681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur has "bitches" on highlight. < 1314401225 827499 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1314401263 583544 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro 15 25 < 1314401264 152115 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMCESHPMRMDWOPSRPAPAMPCF < 1314401271 85554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and of course, Vorpal in a nutshell: 17:06:48: cpressey, have robots zapped augur so zebras can zoom? <--- is there any reasonable context for it? Reading the preceding 20 lines indicates there isn't? < 1314401287 53305 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1314401297 200996 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :laughing < 1314401305 1606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1314401312 784125 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vor"doesn't read context"pal < 1314401321 817428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there could potentially be a reasonable context for it < 1314401330 808953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm willing to accept that there wasn't one, though < 1314401334 830726 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes, I pasted this a few lines back. < 1314401369 1683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I was on a roll that day. < 1314401374 616418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Smearing Malthusian carbonated electrodes. Shipping hoax patently murdered; red-shifted malaise dead without orthographic perception. Still, rectifying postulates arranges pistons, as my pacifying centenarian follows. < 1314401377 55268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(re: SMCESHPMRMDWOPSRPAPAMPCF) < 1314401418 606516 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was having trouble deriving the context of that statement until you provided it. < 1314401423 824765 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you. < 1314401461 700022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1314401484 156655 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many surreal sentences I can elliott to say in a single evening. < 1314401491 686960 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro 15 25 < 1314401492 434556 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCPTFRZLFSGFTRMDRIPCR < 1314401530 327731 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's weighted by their commonality in English, so you have many different words to choose from. < 1314401547 682031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah! Castrated! Pity, too... for Roland Zepto liked fishes. Still, great Fourier transforms really make dead (rest in piece) cars race. < 1314401571 488122 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that one < 1314401581 826419 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes well done. < 1314401613 151878 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how easy it would be to make a bot to solve acronyms..... < 1314401623 708218 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty easy < 1314401626 877321 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1314401631 46103 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean sensibly < 1314401631 969394 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you wanted them to make sense. < 1314401633 572184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NKEPLWGPLXGIOYZJVTXJNNCSQSCVNTLBDQROMYEYVLHKJGTEAQNNEQGUJJPWCBYFRPUEOYDJJK < 1314401637 609543 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :half-sensibly, at least < 1314401647 19448 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least grammatical < 1314401673 969416 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thought about such a bot but have concluded that it's beyond my abilities. < 1314401713 974813 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any good dictionaries i could use < 1314401724 539522 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely, but I don't know of any. < 1314401732 463457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : i wonder how easy it would be to make a bot to solve acronyms..... < 1314401737 491171 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if /usr/share/dict/* contained parts of speech < 1314401740 665792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/share/dict/words? < 1314401742 770182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Markov-chainy, quite easily, but slowly < 1314401756 295131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: just backtrack whenever you can't find a word with the right starting letter < 1314401760 725499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if the probabilities get too low for comfort I guess < 1314401761 294852 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NLP is hard, but inverse NLP is less so :) < 1314401769 947575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a more efficient algorithm is left to the reader's imagination < 1314401778 818125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well, Markov chains make about much sense as I am. < 1314401783 191599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : NKEPLWGPLXGIOYZJVTXJNNCSQSCVNTLBDQROMYEYVLHKJGTEAQNNEQGUJJPWCBYFRPUEOYDJJK < 1314401784 991416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i will try this < 1314401785 572947 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was thinking scfg and match (part of speech,starting letter)->word < 1314401795 769393 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How much sense do Markov chains make? < 1314401796 918184 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: falstaff. master brook, i desire nothing but the finest part of pure love, to whom the order of the course? brut. we do it not alone, sir < 1314401807 520773 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seeeeeeeeee < 1314401809 461972 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1314401824 159284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: See my acronym-solvings above, they don't make much more sense :P < 1314401832 797963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I had to Google it to make sure it was spelt correctly < 1314401846 77848 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 's sort of like Bad Lip Reading :P < 1314401858 532146 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was a dashing blue-ribbont sort of fellow. < 1314401869 490739 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna SHAVE that mustache and then HAVE gelato. < 1314401978 278261 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just randomly generate the parts of speech you want for each word. find words that match randomly, and then use that. if it fails, generate a new sequence of speech parts < 1314402016 675615 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...randomly generated by English grammar rules of course. < 1314402075 426318 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :english grammar rules = simple stuff < 1314402077 404276 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1314402081 555684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Nachos kill 'em! People, log which grand pianos lay xylophones. Gigolos, incas, osteopaths, yetis... zygotes judge very testily. X-Treme joking!!!!!! No, no... consequently, submerged quadrangles salsa convincingly... very nice. Too late, blank disc; questioning ragged omens might yet exit your veins like hot ketogenic juggalos grate tequila eels. Another quant nicety? Nah; exemplary Qatari gre < 1314402081 852485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ats under jesting japes peel wet coconuts by yonder freshman. Rightly-placed underwater eels "om" yet dourer. Just joking, 'kay? < 1314402089 686354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ that took far too long < 1314402097 400613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stores in eir text file of nkep expansions
< 1314402143 756373 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When people use Spivak pronouns, I want to just replace the pronouns with "penis" and "vagina". < 1314402149 825206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: please tell me you actually have one < 1314402150 841691 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll store that in penis' text file. < 1314402155 336314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazingly, this is not the first channel I've been in where people were randomly expanding acronyms < 1314402159 773120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I randomly pasted nkep in the first time too < 1314402168 539152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have the one other expansion in the file, but I do indeed have such a file < 1314402176 275579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314402197 644742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: but I pasted /nkep/, of course I have to use Spivak < 1314402212 48317 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro < 1314402212 630429 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FEMBCC < 1314402215 782133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily, NKEPLWGPLXGIOYZJVTXJNNCSQSCVNTLBDQROMYEYVLHKJGTEAQNNEQGUJJPWCBYFRPUEOYDJJK is quite a googleable word < 1314402223 442152 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Penis thinks penis can make excuses for Spivak pronouns. < 1314402230 634011 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is no excuse for Spivak pronouns. < 1314402240 160863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in nkep-related contexts, there is < 1314402270 55664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spivak neatly avoids the awkward "themselves" problem that singular they has < 1314402277 338232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in that, "themself" is awkward, and "themselves" is not singular) < 1314402293 861611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Shakespeare used "themself" on a few occasions < 1314402308 279431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, he invented about half the English language, so it's a bit unfortunate that that particular neologism didn't catch on < 1314402323 56738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't make it non-awkward :) < 1314402338 240277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spivak has issues as far as pronouncability goes but all the alternatives are worse < 1314402386 340576 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could just use "cloaca" as the neutral pronoun in my biopronouns :P < 1314402403 907750 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW THAT I'VE SOLVED ALL PROBLEMS, WHAT NEXT? < 1314402422 220555 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fenestrated Ensemble of Modularly Bequested Circular Components < 1314402451 75617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can I see the other nkep expansion, out of curiosity? < 1314402463 672769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:52] ais523: Hah, that's an old one, it stands for "No Kiss Except Pleasure Lick With Gordon Powell Last X-mas Goes Inside Of Your Zealot's Jesting Vagina Thankfully Xenu Jokes Not Needlessly Canadian Sasquatch Queen Serena Ceases Valium Nitrodioxide Trading Loathing Belgium's Diabolical Query Reaching Our Minds Yet Eternally Yeasting Verizon Line Has Kansas Jury Goers Turned Endlessly Agonizing Quebecian Network Namer Estephan Quarryman < 1314402465 35738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gagging Unless Jazz < 1314402466 542257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:52] Johnson Plays Waltz Citing Beethoven's "Your From Round Pittsburg?" Use Escalating Overalls You Damn Jackasses... Just kidding!" < 1314402487 572818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like yours better < 1314402498 859260 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any proper meaning < 1314402514 14557 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "Fenestrated Ensemble" would be an excellent part of the name of a window manager or GUI toolkit. < 1314402529 822859 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nay, king. Even permitting legalities, we get past lascivious xenomorphs ghastly indignant. Oh, your zebra jumps — vaults! ­— to xylophones, John, never necessitating cars' sins, quickly saving Carmen valiantly. Not today, legate; Bajoran dentistry quora remind of my youth. Yes, even you vie lustily, heartily, Kate: just go. Teach Eritrean adults quietude; Nepalese nothing; Estonian quintessence. Good Uranus, jejune < 1314402530 68541 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : jam (preserve?) will cut BMI. Your Freudian recalcitrance predicates untowards endings, or your doom. Just joking, 'K? < 1314402560 795011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you copy elliott's ending? or was that coincidence? < 1314402582 21335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god I didn't. < 1314402585 182420 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... < 1314402617 461631 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's because jjk isn't terribly easy to work around unless you use a cheap trick like that. < 1314402619 702735 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314402626 643206 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine was still better. < 1314402639 724566 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, see my brilliant acronym. < 1314402647 4066 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro 3 25 < 1314402647 597699 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DTATMD < 1314402654 880827 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:48:18: is there any proper meaning < 1314402655 547125 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nkep < 1314402659 538313 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nkep < 1314402663 279553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1314402668 959887 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bajoran dentistry quora remind of my youth too, Phantom_Hoover. < 1314402689 950915 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, the quora are for the number of teeth knocked out with rocks. < 1314402690 284333 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I swear you've said "jejune" before AT LEAST ONCE. < 1314402719 810771 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:50:17: I think it's because jjk isn't terribly easy to work around unless you use a cheap trick like that. < 1314402724 665056 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :John jested, killed. < 1314402729 47860 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A STORY IN THREEWORD < 1314402745 806608 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :3-gram < 1314402752 937840 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Maud!' 'Yes!' < 1314402762 580473 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people keep talking about pumpkin seeds in here? < 1314402765 549806 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, 'jejune' has not been used on this channel before. < 1314402773 116293 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wacro 3 25 < 1314402773 780784 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRWUWAAICDSSCCFELLPSISIR < 1314402775 930353 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin, the glory that is fungot's Homestuck mode. < 1314402776 709740 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: host. who knocks so hard? < 1314402780 705570 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, < 1314402783 977688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote pumpkin < 1314402786 262257 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :461) The wickedest man of all. Surpassed only in wickedness by the wicked witches of the west and east. you talking about me again? Yes. k \ 558) Phantom_Hoover: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? < 1314402817 387238 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, if you stick those quotes together you get an even better one. < 1314402836 95797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1314402847 686133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: do you have a highlight for that? < 1314402859 632225 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1314402868 780983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just "pumpkin", or the whole phrase? < 1314402873 919462 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pumpkin < 1314402877 857523 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott_, 'jejune' has not been used on this channel before. < 1314402878 717172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my highlight on INTERCAL catches me out in here occasionally < 1314402880 639794 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT MUST HAVE BEEN < 1314402885 862786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and surprises me by cropping up randomly in other contexts too < 1314402895 678489 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: this can only be settled by wget + perl < 1314402903 718679 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you know like grep or something. < 1314402907 52813 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Dude, we have rsync logs. < 1314402907 739222 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but preferably perl. < 1314402919 811753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why use wget when you have perl? < 1314402924 755988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's perfectly capable of downloading things by itself < 1314402929 368180 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 NICK :elliott < 1314402934 763125 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.26 QUIT :Changing host < 1314402934 835844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1314402938 839936 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not as conveniently, BUT YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT < 1314402958 182200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more conveniently if you want to mix it in with a Perl script < 1314402968 12679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, if you're only going to process each thing you download once and then discard it < 1314402972 770061 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is an unstoppable force of nature, perfectly suitable for all sh porpoises. < 1314403033 833112 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And CakeProphet reminds me of a stupid joke I saw once < 1314403051 28386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, anyone know a language that beats Perl on library support? < 1314403058 148358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think only really C and Java have a chance, and I'm not sure if either does < 1314403067 156579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/possibly/ the .NET languages < 1314403094 720943 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :python's standard library is more complete than Perl without CPAN, I believe. < 1314403139 390419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl without CPAN isn't very featureful < 1314403151 165347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I would say C easily beats Perl < 1314403190 259249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm taking CPAN and platform-related equivalents into account, here < 1314403195 903345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is not very featureful without CPAN, indeed