< 1315958406 164948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1315958423 495091 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :while you're at it < 1315958424 157503 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those closest i got to Reading The Literature is learning about the old hat way of parsers and looking through the trifecta slides < 1315958427 534577 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I'm bad at reading literature < 1315958431 855671 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should compile a list of literature < 1315958433 584338 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me to read < 1315958435 330908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I want something that can do left-recursion :'( < 1315958467 502814 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :left-recursion is strange < 1315958481 394750 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and thus on topic(?) < 1315958488 611957 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so strange about it < 1315958490 248789 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i based it on this: http://oi51.tinypic.com/drc86g.jpg < 1315958499 643042 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it recurses leftwards... < 1315958501 419707 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1315958507 761176 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually know BNF particularly well < 1315958508 249891 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not a good explanation. < 1315958514 648290 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is < 1315958520 671415 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i left that out < 1315958524 755514 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget about it < 1315958527 91860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no such thing as predefined objects < 1315958530 527362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read a different book < 1315958536 623783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it is the cleanest way to express infix < 1315958545 288071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exp := number | exp '+' exp | exp '-' exp | ... < 1315958555 203349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that misses precedence :P < 1315958567 180814 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though precedence can also be done with only left recursion < 1315958568 75875 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: have you ever tried doing infix without recursion in one of the ways? it gets messy < 1315958573 459976 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of uh... left-right-recursion? I guess? < 1315958596 477419 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no I have not. But I have tried it with right recursion and it works quite well. < 1315958600 196116 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: succ is a predefined constant < 1315958606 639340 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Succ, is it < 1315958612 309413 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1315958612 839730 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1315958615 671688 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1315958616 487779 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: if by works quite well you mean is hideous, you may be correct < 1315958639 601247 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you and your aesthetics. < 1315958661 695187 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by constants, which is a fairly bad choice of words < 1315958681 239866 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he mainly means libraries of LC's < 1315958681 670293 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: succ is not a predefined constant < 1315958686 857566 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1315958687 926048 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: what libraries < 1315958692 605652 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is succ? < 1315958699 883171 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on your encoding of numbers < 1315958711 486773 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hummm < 1315958716 985727 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok >.< < 1315958751 795781 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :succ has to be defined before usage anyway < 1315958768 219791 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean "defined" < 1315958777 193530 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, "pre-defined" as in defined before? < 1315958823 819040 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he should have called them predefined expressions < 1315958835 235609 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your book sucks and you shouldn't be reading it < 1315958835 500730 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1315958858 580445 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :predefined to me implies that it was defined outside of the language itself < 1315958859 109887 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the term constant seems a bit of a mes < 1315958862 510715 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not the case for succ < 1315958866 539014 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant isn't a thing < 1315958873 562209 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1315958874 653926 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no "constants" in LC < 1315958893 36749 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: but what mechanism of the language can you use to define things? < 1315958894 948554 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :....except maybe uh, lambda? < 1315958901 225858 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda < 1315958905 448723 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: there isn't one!!! < 1315958916 310035 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then is succ defined outside of the language itself? < 1315958918 508033 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> lambda? < 1315958920 98140 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: you define them in your head or on pencil and paper or with some sort of preprocessor < 1315958922 436123 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "lambda " < 1315958923 495922 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "lambda lambda lambda lambda lambda lambda lambda lambda lambda lambda lamb... < 1315958929 393604 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: and then inline the definitions < 1315958936 296177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: ((\succ. ...code using succ...) (...definition of succ...)) < 1315958939 657220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only way to name anything. < 1315958944 964786 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can do that < 1315958945 393725 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah.. well notice i left constants out of my bnf :D < 1315958957 240974 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just conveniently ignored that line < 1315958990 414592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: WHAT'S THE NEW THING IN PARSING monqy HELP < 1315959003 899456 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i want to show that i didnt think it all up on my own... not that advanced yet < 1315959009 218221 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude I don't know any more than you about parsing < 1315959013 815108 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you think such things. < 1315959020 577378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't knwlo; =______-; the parsec slides seemed intregueing but i forgot what they said < 1315959025 273315 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not parsec < 1315959026 398463 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trifecta < 1315959031 778533 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trifecta slides < 1315959035 614810 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_encoding < 1315959037 402413 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if there's anything more than slides < 1315959038 618268 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :read this. < 1315959039 863191 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for trifecta < 1315959050 131016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: how will that help < 1315959074 571769 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it would show him ways to define data in lambda calculus? < 1315959079 869843 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All Church numerals are functions that take two parameters. Here f is the successor function and x represents 0. -- makes sense < 1315959112 511457 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whole number then is a function of zero and a successor function. that isn't bad. :) < 1315959127 40991 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural number specifically. < 1315959171 864541 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i remember about the trifecta slides is it did things to solve problems (and i remember vaguely some of these ways) and also mentioned other methods of parsing < 1315959176 610569 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when it says λf.λx.x is zero.. it means it has no successor ? < 1315959188 204219 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops sorry i take that back < 1315959190 324052 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero is just a special case basically. < 1315959195 563563 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means it is not a successor of anything < 1315959200 530375 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1315959270 875200 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to actually use church numerals do you have to apply zero to something? < 1315959276 961661 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1315959285 357167 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't "actually use" lambda calculus. < 1315959294 35888 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I understand what you mean. < 1315959321 694764 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is such a thing as impure/applied lambda calculus though as i understand it < 1315959327 69381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1315959329 453598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your source was bullshit. < 1315959334 594078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: well he only wants to learn LC to "apply it to his gamedev". so of course he isn't going to be able to understand LC as the pure system it is. < 1315959355 906388 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any other pure systems? < 1315959356 106463 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: even if you did apply something to a function, you would be applying a function and returning a function < 1315959360 164996 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is nothing else to apply or return. < 1315959363 107817 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is LC an instance of a pure system? < 1315959366 597551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1315959372 518949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self never say anything iti will overanalyse it < 1315959410 510679 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything can be abstracted :D < 1315959415 475484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1315959417 62136 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1315959418 806166 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even LC < 1315959429 822067 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC is a pure system, sure. < 1315959437 149567 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an instance of a pure system < 1315959438 440074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do _not_ have enough knowledge to think about things like LC on a metalevel before you even understand the base level of plainly understanding it < 1315959445 23470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lc is a thing. an instance of a thing. thing. < 1315959447 410581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you keep doing things like that you will _never_ learn it. < 1315959497 997447 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a form of trolling of mine. but thats enough of it i dont want to stir trouble < 1315959513 988458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying dumb things isn't trolling. < 1315959517 485772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just dumb. < 1315959530 197816 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i play with abstraction a lot < 1315959537 480043 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :....lol < 1315959557 861884 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: and for what and in what ways do you want to use the lambda calculus? surely you have some applications in mind with such grave misconception of it < 1315959562 951816 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have considered that sitting down is an instance of human actions < 1315959570 380466 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: if i tell you you're wrong, will you stop being wrong? < 1315959593 791111 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20 is master of the abstract. < 1315959599 527968 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not trifle him. < 1315959608 845746 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no im not .. i just need to stop < 1315959614 951956 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and figure out why im being a pain < 1315959632 213161 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hence stop being a pain < 1315959638 97188 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just learn the basics before you go off on misguided tangents. < 1315959647 373488 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much all that you're doing wrong. < 1315959659 348816 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got my first irc ban last night... it was kind of uncomfortable < 1315959668 586241 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must have missed it < 1315959673 848304 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :being banned is pretty easy. < 1315959674 89268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1315959676 37957 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in this channel, or even this server < 1315959680 233315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where was it :P < 1315959680 995724 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. join #python 2. msg "lol < 1315959685 833678 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :efnet #xna < 1315959696 986011 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1315959704 435664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why'd you get banned < 1315959718 921888 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this guy had been warning me for a while.. i think he just had enough < 1315959719 684611 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :xna... fun stuff. < 1315959727 838869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not an answer :P < 1315959731 284020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure < 1315959731 803291 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning you? for generally acting like yourself? < 1315959734 860928 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :partially i don't even use xna.. i just rant as if i was in here < 1315959744 386166 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay. < 1315959754 735442 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that makes sense. < 1315959757 62469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you in #xna if you don't use xna < 1315959757 965586 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said the other day allowances can be made for people who at least sometimes talk about xna or use it < 1315959760 120681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1315959763 19642 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1315959774 547220 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i considered using it once upon a time years ago < 1315959796 41883 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not merely gamedev < 1315959797 364088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how many channels do you rant in :P < 1315959819 147192 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am thinking about bringing a new artform out of gaming < 1315959824 802585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1315959835 285749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just curious < 1315959854 445554 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: im currently in 9 < 1315959860 616395 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: again, you should probably learn the basics of game design before you go making an artform out of it. < 1315959877 316582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: do you rant in all of them < 1315959879 263941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the basics of game design < 1315959883 809542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just assumed we were special. < 1315959897 833671 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are special < 1315959902 492216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :howso < 1315959908 965733 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I don't think there's really a formal theory to it... it's just like... experience. < 1315959925 400226 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the only channel like it < 1315959940 746293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you give those other channels your special rants :'( < 1315959959 932653 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the formal aspect would be the same as in the rest of CS. So game design is essentially just a specific subset of learning how to design programs. < 1315959970 298402 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :game design has nothing to do with cs < 1315959975 605067 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in #xna.. i keep reacting to offtopic topics < 1315959983 931863 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: fine. applied CS. < 1315959986 741005 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :overreacting. < 1315959987 695364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it should < 1315959990 494924 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i said nothing to do < 1315959991 976294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :game developers are just bad programmers < 1315959994 840879 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically rants about patents < 1315960005 511322 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the point was the separation between design and programming < 1315960005 676949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually) < 1315960021 28524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well all SE is applied CS. < 1315960025 790238 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :CS isn't concerned with design? < 1315960033 692480 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any way < 1315960036 544972 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no branch of it? < 1315960037 753096 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that cares? < 1315960044 662405 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont rant that much honestly < 1315960046 122498 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :game design would also apply to non-electronic games, and the such < 1315960053 699037 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that's true. < 1315960062 278920 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun design. :P < 1315960064 895345 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to make fun. < 1315960066 22491 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some conclusions i have reached is that the word game does not imply entertainment < 1315960084 390044 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry cake.. didn't mean to be the fly in your soup < 1315960091 794593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cake says it's ok. < 1315960092 57509 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1315960099 833906 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cake soup. < 1315960113 510790 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.188.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My professor is assuming that my classmate's problem is due to a .txt extension, despite his saying (and being right) that it isn't < 1315960115 455287 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am using lazy evaluation style of thinking < 1315960123 967453 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1315960125 310290 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1315960126 822241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean you're just being lazy < 1315960132 473106 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: you say these wrong things < 1315960135 186289 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it just makes me cringe. < 1315960151 81353 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only JUST NOW concluded that the word game does not imply entertainment < 1315960161 971650 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i had gathered the necessary proofs over the last month or so < 1315960162 569438 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're like me from years ago on this channel. stop that. < 1315960167 353057 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: do you know what lazy evaluation is < 1315960175 412240 :aspect!~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that why there are so many bad games? < 1315960210 687044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i agree w/ comparison < 1315960218 663827 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a game is essentially an entertaining competition. What makes a game fun is subjective and different people find different kinds of games fun. < 1315960228 680937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :competition? nah < 1315960235 693848 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i think it means only calculate the answers to questions you need the answers to < 1315960240 893540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :games present challenges sure < 1315960243 773367 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, not necessarily against other players < 1315960246 672669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but competition is the wrong word < 1315960252 574883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguing over definitions of words is stupid anyway < 1315960255 103019 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can be competing against the game rules. there is some kind of objective at least. < 1315960259 361070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter if something is a game or a toy or whatever < 1315960266 373145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: some games have no objective, literally no reward < 1315960274 520147 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :minecraft. < 1315960275 530183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, consider minecraft creative < 1315960276 495719 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill reword that: i think it means only calculate the answers to questions you need the answers to when you need them < 1315960278 29024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1315960282 348490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's minecraft has obstacles and shit < 1315960287 93070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but creative has literally no obstacle or objective < 1315960291 397114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's still undeniably a game < 1315960297 190868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you say it isn't a game, then every player of it would disagree < 1315960307 528351 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't see how my definition differs from non-lazy evaluation. < 1315960309 295373 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm. okay. < 1315960310 697071 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1315960311 225798 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not a game in the mathematical sense < 1315960316 671953 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lulz < 1315960325 213705 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good words for good people < 1315960332 51644 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :games are not games in the mathematical sense, are they? < 1315960337 982777 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, cake: What I seem to do is an act of topic-dropping. < 1315960365 363949 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: if you're wrong about something enough, maybe someone will pick up the topic and correct you? < 1315960372 273237 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similar to name-dropping, I use an inappropriate phrase as a synonym for another phrase. < 1315960383 697589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: usually no since it's too painful < 1315960402 24901 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: oh. that's horrible. < 1315960408 676698 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1315960422 539487 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1315960456 867913 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :an itidus20 is an instance of an OO mind virus. < 1315960467 430023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help, parser, help, help < 1315960470 12407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: CGoL is certainly not a game in the mathematical sense < 1315960487 299425 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: indeed not. < 1315960546 33186 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the appropriate phrase in place of " i am using lazy evaluation style of thinking" would have been "What I mean is I realized it just now because of the topic." < 1315960556 115332 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that is topic-dropping < 1315960566 836466 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needlessly mentioning lazy evaluation when it is not relevant < 1315960586 435993 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define as ;while < 1315960587 491902 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do foo < 1315960589 139663 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hopefully the difference between my former self and itidus20 is that I got around to learning all (well, most) of the things I didn't understand. < 1315960595 182748 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do foo(n) as (n --> 0); < 1315960601 259994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: how old were you in like two thousand and seven again < 1315960613 721553 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 15 < 1315960624 694236 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mind viruses are partially built up by other people. < 1315960625 457163 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :15-16 < 1315960634 568579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: another difference: you wre fourteen years younger < 1315960637 604362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/wre/were/ < 1315960640 341243 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :....oh < 1315960649 661005 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who are happier if i am downtrodden and confused, taking steps to keep me down < 1315960681 389764 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's human nature. people are often setting it as their goal to cause harm. < 1315960691 945460 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.188.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1315960704 953735 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1315960753 398795 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humans cope because we manage to chill out in spite of our harmful intent < 1315960804 121333 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :having said all that, i am taking lots of steps at formal introspection < 1315960807 400485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what made you convince yourself that that wasn't projecting, at least partially? < 1315960842 779111 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it is partially my fault. < 1315960856 795844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't say that < 1315960857 223574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1315960864 42330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was just asking a question < 1315960867 119303 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhmmm < 1315960926 538262 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people take advantage of my defence mechanisms. i am responsible for my defence mechanisms. they are responsible for how they react to me. < 1315960944 822791 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take advantage of? < 1315960983 531253 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :help what is formal introspection < 1315960985 583464 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not healthy in mind, body, social life, or money. < 1315960993 395337 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :help Freudian armchair psycho-babble what do? < 1315961002 347731 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait I have monqy help back in exchange for sour cereal. < 1315961010 442914 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: taking notes of how i am feeling at various times < 1315961038 434451 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very formal < 1315961046 253932 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very introspective < 1315961067 987234 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to analyze the actual causes of feelings i don't want to feel < 1315961122 293740 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the causes point to yourself is that where this is going < 1315961136 296948 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do they point to other people is that where this is going < 1315961172 278731 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, other people can do what they like.. its my problem if i overreact < 1315961211 123438 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1315961224 958296 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of gecho revisions recently < 1315961254 448732 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, if something i remember upsets me.. like for example.. if i remember such and such is gonna happen < 1315961267 233772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by gecho I mean the gecho page. these revisions are saddening. < 1315961276 802601 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gecho is saddening < 1315961277 996826 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to take note of which things are actually causing such upset < 1315961297 456357 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1315961301 987040 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah thats the idea.. no need to get depressed by gecho < 1315961312 44137 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has your note taking worked < 1315961352 45433 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well, theres these feelings of derealization and depersonalization and psychosis which i seem to enter into at times < 1315961369 249787 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey me too. < 1315961388 865351 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the main uhmm vector of attack which is bothering me recently < 1315961435 728766 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another thing is to be realistic about things. < 1315961463 961640 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean < 1315961491 710461 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: come on, be more realistic. < 1315961515 56877 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this topic is really appropriate right now. < 1315961522 256744 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1315961526 842258 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have convinced myself that my brother isn't psychotic. he's just an asshole quite often. < 1315961546 836915 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be a relief < 1315961572 508164 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that he just said he convinced himself of that, not that it's true. < 1315961590 447174 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am convinced that Gregor is actually Roger G. < 1315961611 366807 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am convinced that Scotland is where Santa Claus is from. < 1315961615 943170 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and his first name propaganda is a terrible lie that he has told everyone including the government. < 1315961630 420063 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :his last name is propaganda lies too < 1315961680 949846 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is also lying to himself about his name. < 1315961686 919994 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :/Gregor/Roger G./ < 1315961704 201739 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s'^/'s/' < 1315961726 604532 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1315961728 270849 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :man sometimes regex substition on IRC gets tricky. < 1315961737 587966 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't bother with regex < 1315961739 460371 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1315961745 339177 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it better my way < 1315961751 887522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just do s/thing/ < 1315961755 945231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what is your way, < 1315961763 139354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing/other thing < 1315961772 557268 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well he is an angry violent manipulative drunk who will take others things without a thought, but that doesn't necessarily mean psychotic < 1315961823 407715 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if thing/other thing is insufficient I do a "where by ... i mean ..." < 1315961853 876808 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also sometimes use thing/other thing to add meaning rather than replace maybe? I forget if I do this. < 1315962109 17811 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl regex substition is the only sane way to replace typos and misinformation. < 1315962117 527587 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all substitions must parse correctly. < 1315962121 684689 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are the rules. < 1315962133 671835 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend not to care about typos < 1315962283 166328 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org NICK :NotRogerGYouGuys < 1315962292 985395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...does it count as pedophilia if it's animals" --a friend < 1315962298 195144 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/(.*?)/$1, also I am a really bad/ < 1315962316 679928 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/(.*?)/$1, also I am a really bad/g < 1315962327 518868 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a really bad < 1315962543 726409 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sourcereal.com/ < 1315962550 581394 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to revisit this site < 1315962552 182884 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sour cereal < 1315962555 924249 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is truly the best site I've seen. < 1315962625 847343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what IS IT < 1315962691 153926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: explain...... < 1315962695 803507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you posted it originally right < 1315962704 505260 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1315962716 711913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1315962717 970232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you find it < 1315962718 446014 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1315962724 624465 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :he googled sour cereal I imagine < 1315962726 245821 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by searching for sour cereal < 1315962731 765784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that it < 1315962733 586164 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :after I mentioned it being possibly a good idea. < 1315962744 630802 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :after eating SOUR PUNCH STRAWS < 1315962746 516684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :source real . com < 1315962750 666775 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1315962755 13935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo its privately registered whois < 1315962760 748848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IM CANNOT CONTACT < 1315962762 515020 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, by the way, I must go buy more of. < 1315962792 695172 :NotRogerGYouGuys!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log Roger G < 1315962798 319627 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14.txt:00:54:46: /Gregor/Roger G./ < 1315962803 640981 :NotRogerGYouGuys!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piffle < 1315962818 372472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log pop < 1315962822 86305 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-02-09.txt:14:41:06: Deewiant: Personally, I think that "ABCD"4) only pops from the fingerprint stack if ABCD is the most recently loadedfingerprint. < 1315962824 942760 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of becoming an adult is spending your money irresponsibly. < 1315962839 184076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logurl 2011-02-09.txt:14: < 1315962841 147358 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2011-02-09 < 1315962845 827642 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :on things like candy and alcohol and wimminz < 1315962855 93158 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :roger: well psychopath's are like shannon's maxim.. the key is simply knowing yes or no if they are < 1315962874 225771 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be virtually impossible to know without this key piece of info < 1315962880 80842 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1315962889 238933 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the truth. i have read up on it < 1315962939 559978 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this KEY piece of info bahahahahaha < 1315962945 976152 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay time to go. < 1315962951 388569 :NotRogerGYouGuys!foobar@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1315962979 168255 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. once a psychopath is known to be a psychopath, that is all you need to know to know.. and without this knowledge you can almost not know < 1315963007 155472 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like trying to use a captcha to catch a bot < 1315963011 989782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1315963013 812580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1315963047 583137 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in accordance with shannon's maxim, it is their most prized possession < 1315963055 618386 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a psychopath. < 1315963100 930207 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so several moral dilemmas are raised. is a person evil just by being a psychopath? < 1315963115 166970 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once caught there is no treatment, only to cycle them between prison and mental hospital < 1315963122 740215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please...stop... < 1315963127 109747 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can eat them < 1315963127 410527 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1315963151 996133 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:16 < CakeProphet> okay time to go. < 1315963155 721318 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay time to go. < 1315963339 532150 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically ok, it's like trying to determine what is on a display by scanning the video memory instead of looking at the display with a camera < 1315963468 47260 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1315963572 701730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, String has really bad overhead. < 1315963582 65853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Ask me what String's overhead is in Haskell. < 1315963635 960464 :tswett!~Warrigal@thay.Stanford.EDU QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1315963641 781417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Do it, it will amuse you. < 1315963676 343686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is bad. < 1315963733 411631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: tell Gregor he is bad. < 1315963742 159867 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 39 bytes < 1315963754 504203 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: bad < 1315963771 422025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Forty, isn't it? < 1315963783 456816 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to guess fifteen bytes one bit per character. < 1315963784 262243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Per codepoint, of course. < 1315963793 522454 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1315963796 908461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It takes 5n words per codepoint, apparently :P < 1315963797 434427 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assuming ASCII only) < 1315963804 126346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1315963806 667510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 words per codepoint < 1315963812 828390 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You asked for overhead < 1315963814 664107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses utf-thirtytwo always < 1315963818 766058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Point :P < 1315963826 541619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not thirty-nine bytes though. < 1315963829 122445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's thirty-two. No? < 1315963831 29110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four words. < 1315963862 554298 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most code points use one byte, < 1315963868 424384 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So UTF-320 < 1315963876 804924 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most take 7 bits :P < 1315963885 61672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-320? < 1315963898 173645 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: If you go by frequency of usage, perhaps. < 1315963903 896540 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Naturalismo. < 1315963924 674639 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Context-dependent, but generally true in non-plain text. < 1315964032 627491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a known-nicer string representation than ropes... < 1315964052 30106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, well, "finger tree of small vectors of codepoints" if you want to be precise.) < 1315964197 127938 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1315964202 982987 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1315964294 726481 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1315964311 445248 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log godel < 1315964315 11708 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-01-04.txt:19:12:22: elliott: I don't get that godel quote < 1315964328 757924 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog godel < 1315964330 376596 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastelog: not found < 1315964346 544402 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1315964357 301484 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be a good program < 1315964362 979585 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :please write it < 1315964377 947213 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs godel < 1315964382 814112 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25506 < 1315964416 626375 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which pastelogs < 1315964418 131098 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/pastelogs < 1315964426 666383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logurl 2007-07-23 < 1315964428 552247 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2007-07-23 < 1315964435 618367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i made it : ): )) < 1315964436 526207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also `log < 1315964436 994410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log < 1315964438 840612 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2005-03-24.txt:03:34:00: -!- lament has quit (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). < 1315964441 456378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log < 1315964443 503225 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2005-09-15.txt:04:50:58: (actually, i'm not sure about this. hrm) < 1315964452 593724 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ggood logss < 1315964503 809623 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s /hackenv/bin/pastelogs /hackenv/bin/pastelog < 1315964505 391060 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1315964512 823006 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i do that? :P < 1315964534 647692 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1315964544 957056 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1315964545 780616 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog < 1315964562 186204 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.16730 < 1315964578 298312 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log dangerously < 1315964583 657424 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-03-07.txt:18:41:51: Sgeo doesn't, and was coming dangerously close to taking relationship advice from him. < 1315964603 474433 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs dangerously < 1315964607 809710 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.13037 < 1315964654 729 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1315964767 896134 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1315964819 311762 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1315964862 197111 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1315965420 517673 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is "\x x" church numeral 0? < 1315965426 82028 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1315965434 839216 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm oops forgot 1 thing < 1315965446 613806 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is "\f \x x" church numeral 0? < 1315965477 3589 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be < 1315965498 658266 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1315965516 974416 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "\f \x x" like "(λf.(λx.(x)))" < 1315965560 495987 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be < 1315965581 673118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run ln -s /hackenv/bin/pastelogs /hackenv/bin/pastelog < 1315965582 496617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1315965582 656623 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you have so many parentheses < 1315965588 575388 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you have parentheses around the x < 1315965590 89812 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1315965605 138239 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i don't want to make mistakes < 1315965612 264432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/pastelog < 1315965613 223690 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because he's being strange and not doing sane notation. < 1315965613 859773 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1315965619 153784 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're more likely to make mistakes if you make a huge mess of parens like that < 1315965622 388897 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems i am leaving out -> too < 1315965629 959263 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd recommend \f x->x < 1315965640 122559 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1315965641 242564 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or \f->\x->x if you want the currying explicit. < 1315965645 967381 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1315965656 703838 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to use more spaces < 1315965659 753365 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ f x -> x < 1315965661 743289 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or \f.\x.x if you want it to *just* be all-ASCII standard lambda calculus notation. < 1315965693 760873 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\fx.x if I'm doing it like that < 1315965722 375437 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too used to names of variable length. ;) < 1315965796 447669 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ichi \fx->f x, Ni \fx->f(f x), San \fx->f(f(f x)), Yon \fx->f(f(f(f x))), Go \fx->f(f(f(f(f x)))) < 1315965845 258776 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :馬鹿じゃ! < 1315965850 928521 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One, Eck, Ichi \fx->f x, Two, Dou, Ni \fx->f(f x), Three, Teen, San \fx->f(f(f x)), Four, Chaar, Yon \fx->f(f(f(f x))), Five, Paanch, Go \fx->f(f(f(f(f x)))) < 1315965904 531415 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: it's strange of you to omit spaces in the formal parameters thingy but leave them in in the application < 1315965908 957603 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :「12345」か、「一二三四五」か良いかもしらない。でも「Ichi Ni San Yon Go」がとても変だ。 < 1315965921 39255 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: and also leave them out in other applications < 1315965921 226187 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ahh true true < 1315965950 214951 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything not strange about what i am doing though? < 1315965954 996562 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1315965982 766379 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1315966014 890406 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other day someone thought a lang had all instructions executing at once (turned out it wasn't), but it got me thinking, what if all instructions had a queue on the data.. for example *addr1=*addr2+*addr3. if addr2 or addr3 are changed, then that would execute, changing addr1, then anything that relied on addr1 would execute, etc. Is there an esolang like that? < 1315966058 917577 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dataflow languages aren't esoteric < 1315966067 117895 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither are constraint logic ones < 1315966092 938085 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am just getting used to the lego blocks of lambda calculus < 1315966095 539020 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's certainly possible to make an esoteric dataflow language < 1315966098 421818 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean esoteric languages aren't even esoteric. < 1315966101 651188 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're pretty much fucked. < 1315966113 313696 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor are spreadsheets esoteric. < 1315966115 11199 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see monqy, that was what i call a topic-dropping.. the unnecessary use of "lego blocks" to mean "components" or "elements" < 1315966133 56584 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good non-esoteric dataflow language < 1315966139 901786 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: now im dead inside :( < 1315966148 917288 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i trying to talk like monqy < 1315966155 682304 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1315966170 469970 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the whole no capitalization thing < 1315966170 994643 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning to type logically also teaches how to think logically < 1315966178 42093 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You admire his intellect? < 1315966180 21782 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, so I discovered something that they came up with in 1966 according to wikipedia :) < 1315966182 536955 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I do caps; I'm rather inconsistent about it. < 1315966186 244328 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: because it's col < 1315966193 770610 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^cool < 1315966197 652694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Well, topological sorting spreadsheets are a *bit* newer. < 1315966212 477172 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you type i as i you're basically a no-caps'er < 1315966219 448388 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :spreadsheets of functions < 1315966224 784415 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, not exactly new. < 1315966234 984140 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Yes... < 1315966241 809229 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spreadsheet of spreadsheets < 1315966244 164608 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What not new new thing did calamari do? < 1315966255 971339 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: said something :) < 1315966261 943614 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol\ < 1315966262 917839 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: you can type faster without caps.. < 1315966267 49123 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just a fact < 1315966272 890294 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't like to type without caps. < 1315966276 159119 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can type faster still without punctuation < 1315966288 647612 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typing with caps and punctuation doesn't slow me down very much at all. < 1315966297 730143 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in either case i like punctuation < 1315966303 439024 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what slows me down is bothering to correct ytpeoes < 1315966304 653496 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, not if your finger memory always reaches for the Shift and as such, you have to think about not doing it. < 1315966307 371872 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too busy busting caps in niggas and hoes to type caps. < 1315966313 855340 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: yeah i just noticed that < 1315966339 804864 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shoiudl I stop bothering to correct my types? What will ahpepn? < 1315966342 6988 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Off to read some Discworld and eat < 1315966347 512072 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :punctuation probably doesn't help much < 1315966354 760136 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean.. the removal of it < 1315966359 265759 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, ugh, I hvae done that sort of thing before, really speeds things up att the expesne of typoes. < 1315966364 807963 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :w.r.t speed < 1315966367 605392 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about it, and I'm not sure a spreadsheet is exactly the same < 1315966374 793899 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I bother, sometimes I don't!!! < 1315966381 228544 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I also make more typoes than others. < 1315966384 661001 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0_0 < 1315966385 621116 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes. < 1315966398 366460 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :higher order spreadsheets are spreadsheets of functions that take a spreadsheet input and a spreadsheet output < 1315966434 651149 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are the best spreadsheets of all. < 1315966461 897399 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i hate you < 1315966462 745907 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could make an esolang out of higher dimensional spreadsheets < 1315966472 283666 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And higher order, of course < 1315966672 727999 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for letting me know the name of what I discovered... now I won't have to implement it :) < 1315966790 798011 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet if someone here implemented an esolang based on spreadsheets, their endeavour to make it turing complete will make it superior to other real spreadsheets < 1315966820 960927 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most spreadsheets have some kind of language you can embed behind it < 1315966860 226037 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe that was new information for anyone. < 1315966896 577183 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once tried to write a brainfuck interpreter in Excel < 1315966898 498683 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't work. < 1315966913 603046 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1315966927 453877 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ::= | ; ::= "\" | "->" | ; ... is this faulty? < 1315966939 259141 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unecessary. < 1315966960 144231 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a nice way to express ideas without using english < 1315966962 686685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes faulty < 1315966968 95996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's x -> x < 1315966982 804314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ and -> are part of same rule < 1315966992 670001 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1315966996 75998 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheheh ok < 1315967021 857557 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ::= | ; ::= "\" "->" | ; ... is this better? < 1315967129 307936 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am wondering to myself and now typing it if the last one can be vars < 1315967184 750563 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well function application would be ignoring insignificant whitespace. < 1315967188 353306 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to avoid \x->xxyzx not sure if i need to though < 1315967212 640441 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugger < 1315967229 492745 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in Haskell it's a bit more complicated than that. < 1315967231 962263 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for function application < 1315967237 855823 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can have f x or f(x) < 1315967249 576297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: your expr has no application < 1315967252 561726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: no < 1315967264 385550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) is just f (x) < 1315967270 959734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like (((x))) = x < 1315967305 218018 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. so is "\x->" the same as "λx." < 1315967321 212680 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ...yes I understand they are the same < 1315967325 855325 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to describe the syntax < 1315967329 682994 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would include both forms. < 1315967340 134945 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is -> used in both application and lambdaing < 1315967348 967469 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reverse "hello" < 1315967350 47152 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "olleh" < 1315967350 740440 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is application < 1315967354 38024 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ( < 1315967355 98276 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1315967360 339722 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\x -> x + x) 2 < 1315967360 499838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: just lambdaing < 1315967361 129399 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1315967366 347451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: not helpiiiing < 1315967369 73020 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a lambda that is bein applied. < 1315967372 911990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: not helping < 1315967382 138169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you used arithmetic < 1315967386 127754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1315967392 70200 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhmm ok so function application in haskell is just (x y) ? < 1315967398 838287 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :x y < 1315967403 527349 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1315967410 180902 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it be x x? < 1315967413 441165 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1315967418 964458 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t id id < 1315967419 987098 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. a -> a < 1315967422 360061 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about < 1315967426 701582 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of concrete syntax < 1315967426 966844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1315967428 530351 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we focus on < 1315967430 749686 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abstract syntax < 1315967452 620019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you are _really_ not helping iti. please stop. < 1315967459 528346 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i just keep stareing at syntaxes enough it is sure to just make sense < 1315967460 171359 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-16-223.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1315967460 330452 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-16-223.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1315967460 330597 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1315967461 748630 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually surprised how much fuss you guys are making over concrete syntax < 1315967483 183052 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: /me has not been making any sort of fuss about concrete syntax. < 1315967487 978790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you have < 1315967505 189146 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am going on the theory that if you know the grammar of a language you should be able to use it at least in a trivial manner < 1315967514 141881 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're wrong < 1315967514 860750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1315967522 130190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ < 1315967528 411097 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not like it has many rules < 1315967535 392130 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not latin < 1315967550 480119 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it works for python. < 1315967557 222153 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1315967561 46297 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And any other language that is C in disguise < 1315967580 991010 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python: C in disguise < 1315967601 302893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: you are acting like you are on the same level as the people trying to teach you - forming your own different path and disagreeing. until you accept that you must first be a _learner_, you will never learn. < 1315967613 322462 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :C with reference counting. < 1315967622 732387 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm now heres how wirth would say it < 1315967653 564874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, ignore me < 1315967659 402940 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not < 1315967693 625848 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curry f x; body begin x end; < 1315967696 747591 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1315967708 567805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1315967714 69551 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going like < 1315967717 165263 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the wrong direction < 1315967736 694778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember itidus20 what i said about trying to form your own path? < 1315967758 314054 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lao tse once say, the sage follows the well worn path < 1315967790 491862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheheheehehehehehee < 1315967852 233402 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he might have said that < 1315968182 23698 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhmm < 1315968218 289905 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1315968360 695137 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about lao tse could be a false memory < 1315968382 89910 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about how wirth would do a functional language, i think it would be beyond my imagination < 1315968390 910949 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is wirth. < 1315968398 246573 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nikolaus wirth < 1315968400 606368 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the end of win? < 1315968409 643586 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the end of wear? < 1315968420 69606 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algol-w, pascal, modula, oberon < 1315968432 105919 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only know the names of his works really < 1315968488 21562 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I beat you with this stick will learn more stuff? < 1315968516 6387 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut and paste from some googling "I also remember bursting out laughing when the Modula-2 compiler warned correctly that I had written an infinite loop! Ooops." < 1315968644 142679 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fibs = 0 : 1 : zipWith (+) fibs (tail fibs) in fibs < 1315968645 164415 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946... < 1315968669 989609 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/20100331222736/http://www.cs.inf.ethz.ch/~wirth/Articles/GoodIdeas_origFig.pdf < 1315968771 155864 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To postulate a state-less model of computation on top of a machinery whose most eminent characteristic is state, seems to be an odd idea, to say the least." :P < 1315968891 637964 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet so good. < 1315968900 293375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah youve disproved the lambda calculus with a quote and a smiley good thing you never had to learn it < 1315968919 193702 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: alright relax. im not giving up on it < 1315968931 333179 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fibs = 1 : 2 : zipWith (*) fibs (tail fibs) in fibs < 1315968931 922501 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,2,4,8,32,256,8192,2097152,17179869184,36028797018963968,61897001964269... < 1315968944 205624 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just i was looking for wirth's take on it.. its natural he is biased towards his imperative languages < 1315968966 556966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im perfectly relaxed. < 1315968981 212565 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have shown me that it can be used for building OS's < 1315969012 523646 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am used to the quotes of old men being bitter < 1315969050 245698 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a pretty obvious issue with that quote. < 1315969075 876234 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the link was from lambda the ultimate anyway ironically < 1315969076 36166 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our machines are designed for ease of dealing with physical reality. < 1315969085 4108 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our code has no such concerns. < 1315969094 633756 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/1773 < 1315969094 999656 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(modulo obvious limits) < 1315969118 68270 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure that's how modulo works pikhq_ :P < 1315969146 549513 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Sadly, our code is guaranteed to halt. < 1315969187 264038 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At a minimum, it will go with the rest of the universe. < 1315969202 993140 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only lived in a magical world of mathematical thought. < 1315969209 350271 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could be a theorem! < 1315969299 173891 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i will never be able to learn it(LC) through the method of acquiring prerequisite knowledges.. so i am analyzing it's component's < 1315969322 628981 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: what are its components < 1315969333 920073 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: you may have a bad idea of what they are < 1315969379 578131 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has just occured to me that i still don't have a good idea of what a variable is < 1315969418 26179 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in lambda calculus variables function parameters. < 1315969421 748070 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :+are < 1315969427 375086 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as with... \x-> .. < 1315969431 151510 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are also all functions < 1315969431 360058 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1315969433 801564 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is a function < 1315969435 422482 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes. < 1315969447 212236 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "λx." a complete lambda expression? < 1315969451 93786 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1315969451 792700 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1315969462 927128 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The function has to map to *something*. < 1315969538 176804 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and.. "λx." is basically equally incomplete as: "λa.", "λb.", "λc.", "λd.", ... etc.. and they each express the same thing in isolation right? < 1315969548 971467 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1315969560 447829 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't express anything. they're nonsense. < 1315969577 268340 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean like if i wrote "λp." on a piece of paper and showed it to someone it would mean just as much as "λr." < 1315969585 47284 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more or less < 1315969594 765857 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at what are you getting < 1315969606 670380 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Yes, but it would also mean just as much as ASDGJIFujyh0-qwe4itgo0xcfnvjbhklsdau5689234iq8ibvgo0sdujt89ioweausjfgioxzfhyuiqejhiopfgjhsar89pitpjq; < 1315969610 383115 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet this is a component of LC .. and i am analyzing it < 1315969614 123661 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fucking syntax error. < 1315969625 341594 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isnot a component of the lambda calculus; it's a syntax error. < 1315969625 608725 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: yes the name of the variable doesn't matter as long as it's unique < 1315969630 167646 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 1 character short of being a complete LC expression < 1315969642 541759 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: things do not work like that < 1315969647 548234 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: you are doing it wrong < 1315969656 687991 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am being cruel perhaps < 1315969656 854776 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :"λp." means "take p and... 404 file not found" < 1315969668 669508 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: cruel? < 1315969678 371192 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup... < 1315969685 462222 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-146-193.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1315969696 646333 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: When you write such "expressions" you are granting permission to launch demons from your nose, now stop it. ;) < 1315969701 453506 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/OViK < 1315969702 821484 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14 03:08:22 URL:http://sprunge.us/OViK [7576] -> "OViK" [1] < 1315969708 557390 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sh OViK ; rm OViK < 1315969712 756247 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :x - created lock directory _sh21266. \ x - extracting bin/unlearn (text) \ x - extracting bin/forget (text) \ x - extracting bin/learnt (text) \ x - extracting bin/learn (text) \ x - removed lock directory _sh21266. < 1315969718 607563 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am showing you a piece of the space with which i am exploring LC syntax.. and its nasty! < 1315969720 586909 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn elliott Ignore this loser. < 1315969722 962014 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned! < 1315969725 547003 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`elliott < 1315969727 442733 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott = Ignore this loser. < 1315969737 149056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh I love learn < 1315969749 635355 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Lymee *hugs* < 1315969754 877887 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1315969757 666045 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned! < 1315969761 111297 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1315969804 337069 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does GNU shar *actually test* for *GNU* md5sum? < 1315969810 606337 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a functioning one, but *GNU*. < 1315969815 527028 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking fuck. < 1315969831 572396 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a test: < 1315969832 402283 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn cat cat < 1315969834 594545 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned! < 1315969836 580580 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat < 1315969837 309546 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shar: Easily the best. < 1315969838 192537 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat = cat < 1315969849 356694 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: That ... could be a problem ... < 1315969864 965365 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo a | cat < 1315969867 177509 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat = cat < 1315969869 93229 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat < 1315969872 956906 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Kinda an elegant archive format, but jebus GNU stuff is feces. < 1315969875 389881 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/cat < 1315969876 533618 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1315969877 226382 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1315969877 694066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: this is a bad learndb i shall improve < 1315969878 29412 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1315969891 538848 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: THEN DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SO < 1315969909 722947 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda seems to be a modification of a symbol.. just as 'A' is a capitalization of 'a', and 'ga' in japanese is a change to 'ka', so "λx." is related directly to "x" < 1315969911 277556 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`export PATH=/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/hackenv/bin < 1315969912 991474 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: export: not found < 1315969918 402548 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run export PATH=/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/hackenv/bin < 1315969919 957383 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1315969921 208610 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: what < 1315969929 300061 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn cat cat < 1315969931 361334 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned! < 1315969934 640401 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: you're not thinking right < 1315969936 358191 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"λx." introduces the symbol "x" < 1315969936 517626 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo a | cat < 1315969938 486747 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat = cat < 1315969940 60488 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/cat < 1315969941 730666 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1315970042 320684 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"λx." says something like.. in the following expression, "x" is a bound variable. < 1315970072 581240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"λx." isn't a complete thought < 1315970136 986930 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1315970142 326372 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should try learning the lambda calculus before you do this nonsense with it < 1315970161 848016 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or have you given up on that < 1315970167 918722 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i should say "(λx.())" < 1315970175 362505 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're making it worse < 1315970190 645524 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can go a little further < 1315970193 413208 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wiki lambda calculus < 1315970195 280175 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wiki: not found < 1315970198 342884 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1315970211 299105 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"((()())(λx.(())())())" < 1315970216 44314 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1315970219 962398 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a thing < 1315970227 655324 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1315970234 231412 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is missing parts < 1315970235 405153 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1315970242 162208 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we... < 1315970243 911282 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get rid of itidus20 < 1315970259 293552 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1315970262 992817 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i should leave until i can play reasonably though < 1315970275 801760 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1315970279 466153 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1315970297 854440 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1315970327 181664 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your guys' minesweeper records < 1315970348 841727 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a script to reroll until I could get it on the first click < 1315970355 239521 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1315970406 938564 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just opened it up and got 227 seconds on expert. was wondering if that was decent < 1315970477 974959 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft has made a few different versions... the recent ones play in the background and prevent you from losing if the position is ambiguous < 1315970538 184992 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm using a verson that prevents you from needing luck < 1315970831 678462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`elliott < 1315970833 399156 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott = Ignore this loser. < 1315970860 991192 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i misread something up there < 1315970968 423137 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a stupid command < 1315970997 899091 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1315971001 720456 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will come in handy later. < 1315971121 102532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1315971132 898759 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1315971164 781901 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1315971174 102740 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1315971180 470773 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1315971182 920284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coool simonrc knows edwin brady < 1315971183 382424 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone < 1315971188 124308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i am logread) < 1315971247 444831 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1315971398 991692 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1315971430 184317 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have idea if I could make up some doppelganger's prestige class for Dungeons & Dragons game? I should also probably write a fix for the Metamind class. But I think I did fix the Illithid Savant class now. < 1315971477 787324 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember very well. Was copumpkin wrote the which/left/right class for me or someone else? < 1315971516 279990 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1315971658 158072 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, is λx.y a valid lambda calculus expression? < 1315971667 993339 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not by itself. < 1315971707 44067 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what you mean by valid < 1315971736 682105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: you're still thinking about lc in terms of its concrete syntax, i see < 1315971773 169004 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1315971848 629393 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm. now if λx.y is applied to something, would it become "y"? < 1315971853 293188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How much convincing do you need to add new regexp-ish handlers to egobot < 1315971861 581786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: yes. < 1315971868 12990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, the _application_ would become y. < 1315971883 955197 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i should instantiate a something < 1315971887 595259 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1315971895 541683 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.158.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1315971895 701659 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.158.92 QUIT :Changing host < 1315971895 701793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1315971898 703332 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ??? < 1315971906 709918 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (λx.y) z becomes (y) < 1315971925 425328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: For a nicer learndb system :P < 1315971951 606649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm,w ait < 1315971953 605317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? test < 1315971955 234240 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?: not found < 1315971957 389528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1315971961 569871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Never mind < 1315971985 776137 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (λx.x) z becomes (x) < 1315971993 613429 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1315971995 592836 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1315971999 80806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How can one view a certain file on hackego served as text/html :P < 1315971999 855888 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (λx.x) z becomes (z) < 1315972016 184319 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1315972018 380205 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1315972024 384971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's as text/plain < 1315972042 467999 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ... I see what you ... want ... but not why :P < 1315972047 980912 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can't" is the simple answer :P < 1315972050 166308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hyperlinked learndb wiki :D < 1315972056 871636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have to generate it after every learndb mutation. < 1315972127 612146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: C'moooooooooon < 1315972134 448126 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (λx.y) z becomes y and (λx.x) z becomes z, is this so far so good? < 1315972211 725276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Yes. < 1315972228 963649 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Seems to me like this is when hackiki and hackbot should be merged :P < 1315972251 981736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well, no, it'd not be like hackiki. But I could write it as a hackiki page. < 1315972258 42938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can any hackiki read from HackEgo? < 1315972342 319046 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at present >: ) < 1315972358 928537 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaaaaaand ... not tonight :P < 1315972435 28655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How can I make HackEgo send multiple lines X-D < 1315972451 350917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to send each definition of a word on a separate line or it won't fit multiple definitions at all >__> < 1315972484 780885 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not - gonna - happen. < 1315972499 907930 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One-in-one-out is a pretty strict rule. < 1315972512 963229 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it ever going to fix that QUIT messages should be copied into the channel logs? < 1315972514 284184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maaaan, HackEgo is SO unsuitable for a learndb. < 1315972543 539660 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly we need another bot. < 1315972547 674619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1315972560 874327 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Probably. Months/years from now when I grab a moment to do it. < 1315972565 812209 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, EgoBot, glogbot HackEgo? Definitely not enough. < 1315972566 405705 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it saves valuable internet bandwidth even if i'd get an " indefinite" number of arguments ( 1 for 0) i need to < 1315972571 332160 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and clog. < 1315972594 522495 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote an IRC bot program once. < 1315972692 372274 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is currently connected to Freenode. < 1315972717 234734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it called < 1315972718 859332 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finishes his Data Structures project and turned it in with exactly 2 minutes to spare. < 1315972720 728931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it that pokemon one < 1315972731 440673 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, well, sort of. < 1315972753 419781 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is named "PocketMonsterIRC" you can command it to join channels < 1315972754 20648 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1315972776 327049 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1315972851 618664 :PocketMonsterIRC!~PocketMon@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1315972898 477642 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? That is how it works. < 1315972956 259068 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1315972972 982370 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool! < 1315972975 125904 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if I put x y that is an application, but it cannot be applied until something like (λx.(x y)) λa.b which would become (λa.b) y and then finally b < 1315972984 815590 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1315972999 283931 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :x y is an application < 1315973000 70254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a correct reduction < 1315973005 451723 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it applies things. < 1315973010 32705 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes the reduction is correct. < 1315973039 167024 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: ah so you mean the terminology is a bit wonky < 1315973041 345849 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... I see what you mean, nevermind. < 1315973058 298322 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway.. hmm < 1315973063 463582 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the expression that a function returns is not evaluated until the function itself is applied. < 1315973076 588379 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's what you mean. < 1315973079 324220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I have the perfect learndb ;___; < 1315973079 902785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if < 1315973082 440636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make it < 1315973084 118240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send notices < 1315973085 696371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????????????????? < 1315973087 89277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are better < 1315973088 28290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1315973089 954323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1315973094 406138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship learndb < 1315973095 984316 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I set up a macro to send command to PocketMonsterIRC, in my IRC client. It is possible to do that < 1315973104 277571 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now.. if i was to (λx.(x y)) a then that would become a y right? < 1315973107 737779 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1315973116 417139 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can set up a macro too if you want to send commands, including your own program if you want to make IRC bot, to do that < 1315973123 738843 :PocketMonsterIRC!~PocketMon@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com NOTICE #esoteric :zzo38:ro 2d6 = 5 < 1315973130 393728 :PocketMonsterIRC!~PocketMon@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com NOTICE #esoteric :zzo38:ro 2d6 = 7 < 1315973130 553623 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: yes, but y should be defined somewhere. < 1315973132 274067 :PocketMonsterIRC!~PocketMon@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com NOTICE #esoteric :zzo38:ro 2d6 = 4 < 1315973133 830414 :PocketMonsterIRC!~PocketMon@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com NOTICE #esoteric :zzo38:ro 2d6 = 12 < 1315973138 648898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: See. < 1315973142 286555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So non-obtrusive. < 1315973143 46599 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop that < 1315973144 762748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My nick column is only like < 1315973148 509434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the edge of my screen now < 1315973157 697204 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: the thing to remember is that a, x, and y are all functions. < 1315973178 514102 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1315973191 910867 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is /no/ other kind of value < 1315973235 946815 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... that's pretty much it, in essense. < 1315973244 866387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :shfkhsdlsjdflsah < 1315973247 57677 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: well would i just define y by nesting it in something else? < 1315973254 286567 :shfkhsdlsjdflsah!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1315973254 545511 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what you mean. < 1315973258 740544 :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NOTICE #esoteric :MWAHAHA < 1315973261 833796 :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1315973276 416204 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you define y through as a lambda parameter, yes. < 1315973289 13959 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh i see < 1315973319 753242 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i would just say a y becomes λa.(a y) b and then it would become a b < 1315973333 970121 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" I just opened it up and got 227 seconds on expert. was wondering if that was decent" <<< my record is about 180 on this computer, haven't played a lot yet. i usually play normal since you can only win every 8th or so expert, which is frustrating < 1315973335 709178 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a y doesn't become that expression, no < 1315973339 909983 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could change it to that yourself. < 1315973341 903133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: teach itidus20 lambda calculus < 1315973353 226342 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry cake sorry < 1315973357 681278 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got distratced rushing < 1315973363 573130 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i would just say a y becomes λy.(a y) b and then it would become a b < 1315973364 80601 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my leftie record is something like 227 < 1315973371 119074 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: download Mines-Perfect and set it to 'Hint' mode. whenever you have to be lucky hint gives you hints until you don't have to be anymore < 1315973390 483074 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: but then a is not defined in any of that. < 1315973401 521416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: im waiting < 1315973412 26145 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also i don't use flags usually, it's more fun that way, but way slower < 1315973425 57733 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: also do you understand how multiparameter functions work? < 1315973430 666105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1315973432 186252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is no such thing < 1315973434 695539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the lambda calculus < 1315973435 719350 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :....... < 1315973438 25095 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know < 1315973439 787886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ are you trying to complicate it for itidus20 < 1315973447 87622 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I am showing him how you would do such a thing. < 1315973447 513384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't even know the basics stop bringing up things for no reason < 1315973468 414165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes "now that you have failed to learn the basics of the lambda calculus let me tutor you in its more advanced usage" < 1315973473 446309 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are we teaching itidus20 lambda calculus? < 1315973479 78644 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...he just demonstrated that he has an idea of the basics. < 1315973481 2993 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: first things first, here's how to simulate oop in lc < 1315973520 505554 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so guys.. whats another way i can write λx.(a y)? is there any? < 1315973529 729573 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a is not defined < 1315973531 854399 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :y is not defined < 1315973542 30357 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have. < 1315973542 562051 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes its an ironic function < 1315973549 78184 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironic function < 1315973552 542025 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized it when i hit enter < 1315973569 680059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: im waiting for you to teach itidus20 lc < 1315973571 945504 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm i guess what i mean is < 1315973581 135652 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :λa.(λy.(λx.a y)) < 1315973611 738928 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: okay, but only because i'm a professional teacher now < 1315973626 232734 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cake. ok i get what you mean there i think.. however.. < 1315973627 289648 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: see, functions are like these creatures that eat stuff and poop other stuff out < 1315973638 788821 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the poop is edi < 1315973641 885330 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ble! < 1315973653 221505 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to reduce λa.b c < 1315973661 350553 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as a standalone expression < 1315973663 114905 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's yummy poop really < 1315973738 749795 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but λa.b c d is either (λa.b c) d or λa.((b c) d) right? < 1315973780 694014 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm or λa.(b (c d)) also < 1315973784 434369 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what's the minimum number of identifiers you need for lambda calculus to be turing complete < 1315973789 907316 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough to define S and K, I guess < 1315973806 615687 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes three or so < 1315973816 867091 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" oklopol: download Mines-Perfect and set it to 'Hint' mode. whenever you have to be lucky hint gives you hints until you don't have to be anymore" <<< does it crash if you construct a convoluted case where it's hard to tell < 1315973839 418880 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S=\xyz.xz(yz);K=\xy.x says "3 at most". < 1315973847 2559 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I've never seen it mischaracterize or crash < 1315973848 106460 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume the software doesn't let you tell it which position to use < 1315973856 221021 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: It's always \a.((b c) d), by definition. < 1315973867 725944 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i've never seen a hard problem in ms < 1315973871 654593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: please teach itidus20 lambda calculus thanks < 1315973877 501746 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was not manually constructed < 1315973892 399306 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its best just to let me ask the questions ^_^; < 1315973900 859287 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh okay but only because it's my profession < 1315973931 720073 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make a turing complete set of combinators with two variables? I suspect it's impossible with one < 1315973948 469480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it's provably impossible with one < 1315973954 996385 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah, the randomly genreated patterns are easy because you get so many clues < 1315973964 624870 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: prove it. < 1315973967 638155 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: so you know how functions have an arg and then they have a body, well, the thing is when you apply a function, or "usabilize" it, it means you like put stuff to the arg and then like substitute things (let's not get into details) and that's it then < 1315973968 863469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1315973975 655733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its proved in that paper uhh < 1315973976 564924 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: There is one definable function:\x.x < 1315973980 87144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basically < 1315973982 35637 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so λa.b c d is unambiguously λa.((b c) d) then? < 1315973985 253411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat the combinator N times < 1315973987 116708 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: \x.x x < 1315973989 834713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: oh uh < 1315973991 919889 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Fuck you. < 1315973993 530688 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: :P < 1315973993 793642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: there is a one-combinator complete base < 1315973996 393931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you need parentheses < 1315973998 929503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least < 1315974000 293930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some tree structure < 1315974003 939907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot just have it be "unary" < 1315974009 651308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. repeated applications without parens of one combinator < 1315974010 448587 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Yes. < 1315974011 797881 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: maybe that's the reason, yes, dunno. < 1315974015 737080 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but the combinator can't be defined with just one variable name < 1315974020 514324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: oh < 1315974021 304676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1315974023 967441 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can't bootstrap it into one-variable lambda calculus < 1315974025 115712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see what you mean < 1315974041 617104 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, there's a very small amount of patterns you have to learn < 1315974064 843973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yeah i suspect you always need three variables < 1315974068 591286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except hmm < 1315974076 47424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can S be expressed as some composition of two-arg combinators... < 1315974095 7291 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have had idea, make a program it can do compression, decompression, encryption, using its own programming language with these blocks: Top block, Pipe block, Control block, I/O block, Pure block, and Data block. < 1315974123 284965 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breaking news: zzo invents cobol < 1315974127 597344 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i know that λf.λx.x or λfx.x or \fx.x or \fx->x is church zero :D < 1315974135 652455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: teach itidus20 lambda calculus < 1315974156 163554 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^alonzo-church zero < 1315974163 863575 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" elliott: prove it." --- it basically means you can only have functions that take an argument and apply it to itself n times < 1315974168 983434 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: The Church numerals are nothing inherent, they're just an encoding of numerals in the calculus. < 1315974169 470682 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so isn't it kind of obvious < 1315974178 347609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well you can also apply them to self-applications :P < 1315974188 652853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in \x.x(xx) < 1315974192 370731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLEARLY < 1315974193 716259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT MAKES < 1315974194 85241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL < 1315974194 414972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE < 1315974195 436439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIFFERENCE < 1315974195 835765 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: This would be a bit like learning C by staring at struct {void*car,*cadr;} for a bit. < 1315974196 627910 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: prove that it's obvious. :D < 1315974201 395780 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each one has its own commands, restrictions, etc. Such as, Top block is only one and it has no flow control. All operations in I/O block are reversible, including I/O. Each block has its own memory and there are restrictions how to access the memory from other blocks and from within the same block. < 1315974212 16718 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm < 1315974224 626586 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, s/cadr/cdr/ < 1315974224 899392 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok back on track lets see < 1315974226 908117 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: jigsaw puzzles are turing complete < 1315974245 526356 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like the wang tiling turing completeness proof? < 1315974268 229845 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, just assign colours to pieces < 1315974286 411025 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" oklopol: well you can also apply them to self-applications :P" --- well yes, sure, and i don't actually have any idea what that implies < 1315974288 42202 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you explain how jigsaw puzzles are turing complete? < 1315974301 797800 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a human with a pencil and paper is turing complete. < 1315974302 824389 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, look up wang tiling < 1315974303 252492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\x.x(xx) looks suspiciously like the body of fix < 1315974307 137420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1315974307 298703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of Y < 1315974315 387180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that has two variables :P < 1315974341 378832 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it's set up to never repeat itself. so with certain initial conditions you can come up with an infinite number of different end results < 1315974352 718272 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" oklopol: prove that it's obvious. :D" --- i never said it's obvious, i asked whether it was obvious. i have revolutionized the socratic method, really. < 1315974374 316401 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it halts if you have to make a hole? don't recall exactly < 1315974394 535480 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will now use the socratic method to teach itidus20 < 1315974399 187109 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: what is the lambda calculus? < 1315974410 622666 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :halts? < 1315974445 650687 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a tiling never repeats itself, you have uncountably many ways to tile the plane < 1315974446 355103 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-9.vodafone-net.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1315974455 399445 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: also that was a rhetorical question DOESN'T COUNT. < 1315974467 31206 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if there is no periodic tiling, then you have uncountably many tilings < 1315974485 719317 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: incorrect < 1315974490 996134 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I did read about it. "It is possible to translate any Turing machine into a set of Wang tiles, such that the Wang tiles can tile the plane if and only if the Turing machine will never halt. This problem is undecidable; therefore, the Wang tiling problem is also uncomputable. In a sense, Wang tiles have computational power equivalent to that of a Turing machine." < 1315974492 809602 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :See Penrose tilings < 1315974520 417687 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about wang tiles, but i'm pretty sure this holds for other shapes too < 1315974521 894272 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even DNA as well, apparently. < 1315974549 296293 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back hmm < 1315974560 521675 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, a finite patch cannot differentiate between the uncountably many Penrose tilings, nor even determine which position within the tiling is being shown.[43] < 1315974563 651693 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :on wp < 1315974579 253154 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's your reference for only countably many tilings? < 1315974586 479724 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are some examples of languages that can be proved to be Turing complete, but where it is very difficult to prove through isomorphism to another language. < 1315974599 301142 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, whoops < 1315974607 618631 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was the pinwheel tiling < 1315974609 287444 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Fixed (but not in raw yet) < 1315974622 717247 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do realize i get paid thousands of euros a month to think about tilings < 1315974637 796422 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I did not realize that < 1315974654 220558 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i talk about it all the time < 1315974665 857287 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm like hey guys you know how i do ca and shit < 1315974679 407836 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you guys like wow oklo u so cool < 1315974683 899229 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm like, well, yes < 1315974713 277702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: so if ghc is getting type-level nats, constraint kinds... what about pattern synonyms? I figure someone must be working on everything I've ever wanted :P < 1315974717 343575 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cellular automata are just deterministic tilings < 1315974732 364587 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use the same constructions < 1315974755 15262 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pattern tail x = (_:x) ??? < 1315974775 467937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: that's not the right name for that pattern < 1315974778 416721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that already anyway < 1315974780 664818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (tail -> xs) = ... < 1315974789 97425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's more relevant is something like < 1315974798 860764 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....you can? is that an extension or something? < 1315974806 673847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pattern VarBind name value = SetVar (Var name) (Eval (Exp value)) < 1315974807 468925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or w/e < 1315974809 429388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: view patterns < 1315974846 437333 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not finding your example easy to discern. < 1315974853 665657 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway there are multiple ways to show tiling is undecidable, the usual way is to use robinson's tileset which draws an infinite quadtree of squares on the plane (Squares on a Plane!), you then just run a tm in each of these squares, avoiding hitting any of the smaller squares inside the big one < 1315974857 519345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which example < 1315974860 112228 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is easy to do as tilings are nondeterministic < 1315974861 324895 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I wanted more-notation in GHC, too. As well as, the ability to transform categories at compile time using TH, other than only the Hask category. < 1315974866 460477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: / < 1315974867 111533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1315974889 734130 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION irritates Gregor  < 1315974900 109867 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :determinizing this is slightly harder, but possible, and proves nilpotency of 1-d ca is undecidable as well < 1315974918 234844 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a result of my supervisor from some 20 years ago < 1315974938 927343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: ? < 1315974941 828005 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also proves entropy of ca is uncomputable < 1315975003 236115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: hello? < 1315975032 146257 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i can easily prove the uncountability thing to you if you know what compactness is, otherwise i'll go to work < 1315975065 520690 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: back. < 1315975071 682375 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i hope you don't, because i really have to go to work) < 1315975073 692767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : which example < 1315975076 406077 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to work < 1315975079 43402 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :your VarBind thing. < 1315975080 883490 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do. < 1315975088 910224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :declares a pattern synonym. < 1315975092 56560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1315975097 813621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (VarBind name value) = ... < 1315975098 316309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :=== < 1315975101 786545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (SetVar (Var name) (Eval (Exp value))) = ... < 1315975118 475977 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1315975122 990859 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right that's what I was saying basically. < 1315975125 787760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lack of ability to abstract patterns is one of haskell's major flaws imo. it means that you have to deliberately design your datatypes to avoid nesting (and therefore be weaker, structurally) to make matching convenient. < 1315975138 253088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also makes using things like Mu to do recursive types prohibitive < 1315975148 254048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes e.g. seamless annotation of datatypes a pain < 1315975155 812510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like annotating an AST with source location information at every node) < 1315975160 92786 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I would like to have macros. < 1315975166 434238 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. also because it's not at all easy to prove < 1315975172 561761 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also how was tail not the right name for that pattern. < 1315975177 759637 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :when that's exactly what it is.. < 1315975181 958244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not. < 1315975195 631357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's consSomething < 1315975200 248742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ugly name for an ugly patter < 1315975200 774786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1315975204 441626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to describe the _inverse_ < 1315975232 732825 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no? pattern tail x = (_:x) < 1315975238 986276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1315975241 339604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the wrong name. < 1315975244 925027 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (tail z) === f (_:x) < 1315975246 857477 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they're in SHE, quit bitchin' < 1315975247 119406 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1315975249 190332 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/x/z/ < 1315975253 656096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (tail xs) = xs < 1315975255 381448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we say < 1315975258 93155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (tail [99,9]) < 1315975262 148627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should get [99,9] < 1315975265 532556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's how patterns work < 1315975271 519126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (tail [99,9]) == [] < 1315975275 451331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops! < 1315975278 814635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your name is incorrect. < 1315975281 73949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: oh come on < 1315975296 152940 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :....erm < 1315975327 720021 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is tail? < 1315975330 86729 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in pattern land? < 1315975331 374377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1315975336 753073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not anythning < 1315975339 320362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because tail is not reversible < 1315975347 991076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't go from (tail [99,9,9]) to [99,9,9] < 1315975353 784139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you get [9,9] which drops the head information < 1315975355 792836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no tail pattern < 1315975364 641702 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1315975369 272565 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :patterns need to be reversible? < 1315975381 162286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am done bashing my head against this particular brick wall, sorry. figure it out for yourself < 1315975386 251479 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will try to make a better macro system for Haskell, if I can. < 1315975427 799747 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :functions are already pretty good at being macros... < 1315975486 995388 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: I don't think so. That is, if you want complicated macros doing stuff that is not how functions do. < 1315975497 709413 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huzzah, I just fixed an extremely minor bug nobody knew about while thinking I was fixing a less-minor bug somebody did know about :P < 1315975535 341200 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i'm a bit disappointed, i thought you were omnipotent < 1315975538 316868 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: OK, now the ACTUAL bug has been fixed :P < 1315975556 387518 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Maybe once per /book/ :P < 1315975560 480284 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 41 seconds to fix that second bug... < 1315975561 13908 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: OK thanks < 1315975602 682316 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another feature I would like to have, is a function whatType :: Q Type in Template Haskell which when bind to function, that function will receive the parameter telling what types are expected for an expression belonging in place of the TH splice. < 1315975619 181419 :PocketMonsterIRC!~PocketMon@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1315975619 444107 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think the problem is that [99,9] is not a pattern you'd want to use with tail anyways. < 1315975633 315342 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's a literal. < 1315975651 194974 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wc -l quotes < 1315975662 124129 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :662 quotes < 1315975674 338778 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note how "wc -l quotes" happens to give a perfectly-formatted English reply :P < 1315975681 61399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you are wrong < 1315975683 378457 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1315975732 14240 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, but I don't think I am. < 1315975736 582357 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted? < 1315975747 254819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: < 1315975751 731257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (tail [99,9]) = "hello world" < 1315975754 253569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f _ = "oh no" < 1315975759 774414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (tail [99,9]) --> "oh no" < 1315975769 31769 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I'm saying it doesn't make sense to use [99,9] with tail < 1315975769 494555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think that a pattern should not match _itself_ as code, you are insane. < 1315975776 805856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: please tell CakeProphet he's wrong thx < 1315975780 2379 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would want to use a variable. < 1315975784 606474 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to bind < 1315975786 397907 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1315975792 197334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you are wrong. < 1315975799 738419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Gregor tell CakeProphet he's wrong. < 1315975827 293563 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats hapening < 1315975831 16885 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't been attentioen < 1315975836 256109 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is CakeProphet wrong < 1315975836 415993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet thinks that < 1315975839 497833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pattern tail x = _:x < 1315975842 452395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a correct pattern synonym < 1315975842 665074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite < 1315975845 418583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : f (tail [99,9]) = "hello world" < 1315975845 579365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : f _ = "oh no" < 1315975846 747427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : f (tail [99,9]) --> "oh no" < 1315975849 32123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fact that tail is not reversible anyway < 1315975855 686900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and me telling him that pattern should actually be called consAnythingTo < 1315975864 72303 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im confsued?????? < 1315975867 719532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1315975875 329155 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say it matched the code, but that tail was a correct name for it because it matches the tail of the input. < 1315975882 540119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: that is not how patterns work. < 1315975916 217885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pattern (tail xs) should match the result of a function application (tail xs) and bind xs to the argument given to tail. < 1315975922 827479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is impossible, as tail is not reversible. < 1315975935 558611 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is there any functions that could be turned into pattern synonyms like that? < 1315975935 717819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think otherwise, you are wrong, and I have explicitly shown you why your pattern is incorrect < 1315975951 659788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :varBind name value = SetVar (Var name) (Eval (Exp value)) < 1315975954 476377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pattern varBind name value = SetVar (Var name) (Eval (Exp value)) < 1315975963 404202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :O;H MY GOD SO HARD < 1315975971 648218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the correct definition of a tail pattern is < 1315975975 392371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pattern tail (_:xs) = xs < 1315975977 118431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be used like < 1315975987 415840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (tail (x:xs)) = x < 1315975990 134449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is clearly impossible < 1315975998 715497 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean, is, to be able to make up macros that make up do notation and list notation and that stuff. < 1315976080 710346 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: okay I understand. < 1315976088 957935 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking of the pattern synonyms as pattern functions, which they are. < 1315976317 30635 :jix!~jix@dronf.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1315976317 192243 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@81-233-163-248-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1315976317 192321 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:#esoteric < 1315976720 722198 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1315976720 722273 :Nisstyre!~yours@infocalypse-net.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1315976720 722346 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1315976720 722422 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1315976737 421177 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.228.192 QUIT :Client Quit < 1315976737 581273 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1315976737 581517 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1315976737 789263 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net NICK :monqy < 1315976764 518644 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a tumultuous netsplit. < 1315976780 501858 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net NICK :CakeProphet < 1315976902 100792 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1315976910 135709 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: hyo < 1315976911 320161 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: < 1315976911 481059 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I don't really see why you didn't just ait. :P < 1315976911 959086 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1315976916 168760 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ait? < 1315976917 105035 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wait < 1315976920 137760 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1315976920 514555 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1315976942 638130 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I repulse you? :P < 1315976957 704847 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1315976998 360112 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just don't understand my ways. < 1315977022 47326 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1315977042 644613 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok time to pay attention again < 1315977049 517260 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1315977071 919674 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help in mercury how do i define a typeclass which takes a type function < 1315977072 735337 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a type < 1315977150 68446 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know that much meurgcury :_--; how to learn type clases < 1315977154 380762 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonder if any Ruby nuts would consider it sinful to use hg for a Ruby project < 1315977178 379744 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dont use ruby" -monqy < 1315977186 207198 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dont use hg" -elliott < 1315977210 29626 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey monqy its < 1315977210 756160 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :six am < 1315977211 772865 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i < 1315977212 433235 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? What's wrong with hg, is git any better, and if no to the last question, what should I use? < 1315977213 395752 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep < 1315977218 678091 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: darcs < 1315977227 620462 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or git if you care about other people but really you don't < 1315977231 886454 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl print (("yes", "no")[int(rand(2))]) < 1315977233 891717 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1315977247 289050 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- monqy < 1315977248 543149 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you selpp? recently i have been unable to sleep properly so i do not sleep properly, then i take naps when i am ready < 1315977271 157806 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1315977322 850919 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1315977329 60126 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1315977455 561381 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so, λa.(((((b c)d)e)f)g) i figure this is equivalent of λa.bcdefg but does (λa.bcdefg) h reduce to h ? < 1315977475 549704 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops.. no i thought that out wrong < 1315977480 931152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1315977508 736561 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does (λa.bcdefg) h reduce to bcdefg ? < 1315977531 310111 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1315977603 754250 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do applications only get applied in the presence of bound variables? < 1315977619 847600 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1315977625 116108 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1315977634 4858 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bcdefgh cannot be reduced right? < 1315977658 873195 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm no.. i'm still asking the wrong question < 1315977683 710988 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (bcdefg) h cannot be reduced right? < 1315977694 546567 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1315977748 592292 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it was λb.(bcdefg) h it would become hcdefg < 1315977774 457440 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you meant different parentheses < 1315977788 870621 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parentheses are fairly confuing to me < 1315977829 260638 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\b.bcdefg)h < 1315977837 184369 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1315977839 269798 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=> hcdefg < 1315978037 686454 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. so the order of bcdefg only matters when one of them has an abstraction applied to it < 1315978050 566586 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1315978178 769123 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. you only need to think about implicit parentheses in (\b.bcdefg) if there is something like (\d.bcdefg) \x.y < 1315978193 922214 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1315978245 648501 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess i am wondering what (\d.bcdefg) \x.y becomes < 1315978260 404478 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :substitute d with \x.y < 1315978262 697145 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the lambda < 1315978266 274467 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and return the expression < 1315978301 942394 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm bc \x.y efg < 1315978310 356622 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs parens < 1315978329 228838 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what i am a bit confused about < 1315978333 907202 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do know how functions work right? < 1315978356 624112 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how is it confusing. < 1315978356 956128 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm (((((bc)\x.y)e)f)g) ? < 1315978384 730164 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can reduce it further < 1315978390 357644 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also just write it as bc(\x.y)efg < 1315978397 850916 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no oops < 1315978403 982708 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im cfoneuse < 1315978415 718256 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1315978443 489619 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so needs parens means bc \x.y efg needs to be at least bc(\x.y)efg ? < 1315978448 812859 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be wise to work with a few less free variables and do bigger reductions etc........... < 1315978459 774955 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Have a question for the Republican candidates? Ask it now" ask it now links to youtube fox news help... "fox news google debate" oh god stop collaborating with them nO google < 1315978463 468420 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YUORE EVIL BUT NOT TATHT EVIL < 1315978469 73625 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: something you might enjoy: (\x.xx)(\x.xx) < 1315978505 214822 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i set that situation up specifically to confuse myself and have it resolved now < 1315978517 182270 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: oh? < 1315978646 732977 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what i have learned is if i get (\d.bcdefg) \x.y then it is best reduced to bc(\x.y)efg < 1315978671 649734 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you learned anything else < 1315978701 618558 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have what is known as a slow mind < 1315978709 985775 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1315978712 342218 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't multitask very well.. < 1315978723 823289 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was your conclusion on (\x.xx)(\x.xx) < 1315978728 424236 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to like to finish one thought before jumping to another though < 1315978744 613309 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent actually begun looking at it yet.. which i will start now < 1315978792 47973 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I thought you said you had resolved it but I guess you were referring to something else oops < 1315978894 142604 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 1) (\x.xx)(\x.xx) intermediate step 1.5) (\x.(\x.xx)(\x.xx)) step 2) (\x.xx)(\x.xx) ... this i can now recall as something which i saw in some sidenote i saw somewhere about how not everything can be reduced (i forget exactly.. nevermind that) < 1315978938 903777 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your intermediate step does not make sense to me < 1315978946 130237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it in a different notation < 1315978952 15319 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1315978962 706088 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\x.xx)(\x.xx) reduces to (\x.xx)(\x.xx) < 1315978968 35260 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1315978981 250023 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like itidus20 is starting to get it :P < 1315979047 239916 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is (\x.xx) fix? it seems similar. < 1315979058 641494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1315979075 211944 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do Y in LC? < 1315979085 176236 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i just sputtered < 1315979097 484246 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (\x.xx) a would be a a < 1315979115 779153 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it's mock. and duh, of course. < 1315979117 146591 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1315979118 109993 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mockingbird < 1315979139 421165 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it was possible I'm just not sure how to write it < 1315979327 556631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to remember, but then I forgot. ;_; < 1315979393 168190 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sent in /msg < 1315979399 868949 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOPE I AM GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT. < 1315979403 602845 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late < 1315979406 753226 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not looking < 1315979412 247515 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1315979416 70301 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its trivial < 1315979444 292842 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is... trivia < 1315979449 918135 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1315979504 649007 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\f. (\x. f (x x))(\x f (x x)) < 1315979518 476847 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1315979520 308906 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks. < 1315979529 462297 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAM... < 1315979533 224579 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwww yeah. < 1315979546 414758 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :victory dance < 1315979561 342502 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like mockingbird with that extra f... < 1315979789 7716 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursion is weird in lambda calculus < 1315979792 839968 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I mean, not weird. < 1315979800 879687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1315979806 304440 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just can't refer to the function by a name so you have to do the above. < 1315979837 311491 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other ways too < 1315979895 991540 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd imagine they're all more or less equivalent. < 1315980010 459925 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC is really in need of primitive fix, because a proper fix introduces sharing. < 1315980032 149152 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is sharing a thing that even makes sense to talk about in the context of LC? < 1315980038 467224 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1315980039 754777 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (\xy.xx)(\xy.xx) reduces into y.(y.(y.(y.((\xy.xx)(\xy.xx))))) and so on reducing forever right? < 1315980081 254822 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops what i mean is < 1315980082 101956 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\xy.xx)(\xy.xx) -> (\y.(\xy.xx)(\xy.xx)) < 1315980083 492365 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it stops < 1315980087 455293 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's a lambda without any application < 1315980098 35548 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1315980105 858249 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still reduce cant you?? < 1315980116 164027 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on your < 1315980119 829947 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evaluation strategy < 1315980135 489245 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not helpful < 1315980142 789602 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1315980144 765190 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is using the evaluate-by-impatient-programer strategy. < 1315980167 672677 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1315980169 436633 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1315980176 990237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think something bad happened < 1315980181 689629 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heygenie wise < 1315980191 23761 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got dirted < 1315980197 331619 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :genie: hey < 1315980210 954640 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1315980217 290149 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i confuse myself like that < 1315980218 3281 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1315980219 645512 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that happen < 1315980224 482708 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i am tired < 1315980235 786365 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I am going to sleep. < 1315980241 831802 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1315980252 719440 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see elliott_ is still up < 1315980266 740890 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO IVE BEEN < 1315980267 952003 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN BED FOR HOURS < 1315980268 392097 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND < 1315980269 828474 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AM GOING TO BED < 1315980270 260762 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW < 1315980277 594252 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: surely you will fall asleep during school? < 1315980312 258119 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz; < 1315980315 942687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :z < 1315980523 413185 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(λy'2'.(λy'6'.(λy'10'.(λy'14'.(λy'18'.(λy'22'.(λy'26'.(λy'30'.(λy'34'.(λy'38'.(λy'42'.(λy'46'.(λy'50'.(λy'54'.(λy'58'.(λy'62'.(λy'66'.(λy'70'.(λy'74'.(λy'78'.(λy'82'.(λy'86'.(λy'90'.(λy'94'.(λy'98'.(λy'102'.(λy'106'.(λy'110'.(λy'114'.(λy'118'.(λy'122'.(λy'126'.(λy'130'.(λy'134'.(λy'138'.((λx'141'.(λy'142'.(x'141' x'141'))) (λx'143'.(λy'144'.(x'143' x'143')))))))) < 1315980523 834734 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) < 1315980530 456902 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh phew < 1315980577 6262 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1315980580 295298 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: hi < 1315980583 774090 :aspect!~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those 'numbers' for hygiene? < 1315980603 820643 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing http://codu.org/lambda/lambda.html < 1315980607 377749 :aspect!~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if so, you might be interested to look up deBruijn-index notation < 1315980623 766251 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aspect: i'm a newbie really. < 1315980639 309426 :aspect!~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't make it any less fun :) < 1315980655 253523 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was auto generated numbers < 1315981085 621695 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_encoding#Church_booleans < 1315981092 381795 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now read through this article, starting there. < 1315981105 600664 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then go back to the top once you've read that. < 1315981176 287206 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice how the Church encodings for true and false act like an if expression. < 1315981205 321010 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true x y = x; false x y = y < 1315981281 326937 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like" true = ^ift.^iff.ift " < 1315981293 241370 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...okay. < 1315981303 296190 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he mean something else? :P < 1315981314 949443 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is he. < 1315981333 905251 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what is ^if < 1315981336 788398 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well its the codu page i assume its gregor < 1315981347 370245 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a screenshot in order < 1315981375 721171 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: ^ is lambda < 1315981377 217032 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno but just look at that wikipedia page. < 1315981380 85148 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a nicer syntax < 1315981388 445701 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I saw it. < 1315981390 337116 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: no screenshot < 1315981471 192345 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oi55.tinypic.com/25pq0bc.jpg wahahaha < 1315981474 447079 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1315981481 407007 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude I can scroll up in the conversation and click on a link. < 1315981492 694242 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok nevermind < 1315981495 980228 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1315981532 375401 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah you write conditionals like: predicate then-value else-value < 1315981535 957229 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what gregor is doing then is saying "x" = "ift", "y" = "iff" < 1315981543 453038 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1315981556 902307 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just ignore that it's bad. < 1315981559 162423 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1315981578 953385 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true = \a.\b. a < 1315981609 205186 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can think of this as a kind of two-argument function. < 1315981613 729155 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true x y < 1315981638 280846 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is actually ((true x) y), see how that works? < 1315981660 822240 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm \ab.a and \ab.b < 1315981673 152271 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes those the typical representations for true and false. < 1315981703 383144 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ab.expr just being a shorthand for \a.(\b. expr) < 1315981715 189118 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (\ab.a) c reduces to \b.c ? < 1315981721 717899 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1315981732 456893 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see how it's like a conditional? < 1315981737 248875 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1315981747 36987 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you have and, or, and not defined < 1315981749 244696 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can say things like < 1315981755 671839 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a b) x y < 1315981763 819813 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a and b are both true then x is returns, otherwise y < 1315981778 400289 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (\ab.b) c reduces to (b.b) ? < 1315981787 34822 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\b.b yes < 1315981792 64467 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1315981799 907974 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha those silly \'s < 1315981810 570576 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :always trying to catch me out < 1315981811 837562 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...am I making any sense? < 1315981825 982536 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes except im thinking about 5 times slower < 1315981945 190897 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you familiar with ?: in other languages? church booleans work like that except automatically... you don't need ?: < 1315981967 314043 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if true = \ab.a then true x == \b.x and if false = \ab.b then false x == \b.b < 1315981976 667286 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1315981983 477721 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true x y = ??? < 1315981985 500607 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :false x y = ?? < 1315981991 308753 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1315981992 177900 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homework. go. < 1315982035 128717 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1315982153 560947 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....have you figured it out yet. < 1315982192 773846 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\a.(\b.a)) x y (\b.x) y x ; (\a.(\b.b)) x y (\b.b) y y; < 1315982206 208047 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so thats about my processing speed < 1315982221 335839 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you already had half of it worked out you didn't need to start over. < 1315982236 238326 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either of us expecting my brain to go any faster will result in just anguish < 1315982247 684636 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest enjoy the peace < 1315982248 710907 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so... uh < 1315982253 683418 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you see how that's a conditional? < 1315982280 720022 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you pass a Church boolean two arguments, true will give you the first one, and false will give you the second one. < 1315982416 731807 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true x y == x < 1315982419 473084 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :false x y == y < 1315982431 830785 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......right? < 1315982450 457488 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like.... a conditition, where you want one thing to happen when something is true and another thing to happen when something is false. < 1315982456 7296 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> <_< hello? < 1315982648 465427 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not paying attention are you. < 1315982652 647058 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, ping < 1315982680 904113 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night all < 1315982960 933656 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1315983004 216049 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@121-73-166-219.dsl.telstraclear.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1315983004 375394 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@121-73-166-219.dsl.telstraclear.net QUIT :Changing host < 1315983004 375539 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1315983706 58816 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was afk < 1315983741 803371 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go forth and learn. < 1315983966 150681 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let true x y = x; false x y = y; not b = b false true in not true < 1315983966 863940 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t t1. t -> t1 -> t1 < 1315983971 536294 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let true x y = x; false x y = y; not b = b false true in not false < 1315983972 256645 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t t1. t -> t1 -> t < 1315984142 822966 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let true x y = x; false x y = y; not b = b; and x y = x y false; or x y = x true y in false true in or (not true) (and true false) "launch nukes" "pet kitten" < 1315984143 529275 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `in' < 1315984158 548141 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let true x y = x; false x y = y; not b = b; and x y = x y false; or x y = x true y in or (not true) (and true false) "launch nukes" "pet kitten" < 1315984159 154616 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "launch nukes" < 1315984165 764613 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1315984179 362720 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :first minesweeper 'speedrun' video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k​tLAPx_v8AE < 1315984184 814451 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let true x y = x; false x y = y; not b = b; and x y = x y false; or x y = x true y in or (not false) (and true false) "launch nukes" "pet kitten" < 1315984185 537356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "pet kitten" < 1315984208 760875 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1315984221 36444 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not should be not b = b false true... I accidentally cut that out. < 1315984330 616295 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I just noticed that if' in Haskell is a function that converts a Bool to a Church boolean. :P < 1315984531 901119 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktLAPx_v8AE fixed link < 1315985552 326255 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1315985569 818703 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1315986132 819122 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1315986617 711391 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1315987314 694769 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1315987971 668999 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1315988491 216948 :aspect!~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :let true x = const x; false x = id; cons x y = \z -> z x y; car = true; cdr = false in (car (cdr (cons 1 (cons 2 3)))) < 1315988494 921523 :aspect!~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let true x = const x; false x = id; cons x y = \z -> z x y; car = true; cdr = false in (car (cdr (cons 1 (cons 2 3)))) < 1315988495 655019 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Overlapping instances for GHC.Show.Show (b -> a -> a) < 1315988495 814915 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use... < 1315988518 679339 :aspect!~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, really? < 1315988587 726255 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that happens if it tries to show a function < 1315988588 883128 :aspect!~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let true x = const x; false x = id; cons x y = \z -> z x y; car = true; cdr = false in (cons 1 (cons 2 3)) cdr car < 1315988589 826431 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1315988605 232756 :aspect!~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1315988624 611516 :aspect!~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have used car x = x true etc < 1315988827 48241 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1315992421 574115 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1315993260 309656 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1315993322 145840 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a question about holding ctrl and hitting space. < 1315993326 450684 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :On pidgin and notepad++, it does nothing. < 1315993332 883517 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :On chrome and mIRC, it creates a space. < 1315993343 301485 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it differ across programs? Is it a linux vs non linux thing? < 1315994343 397720 :jix_!~jix@dronf.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1315994374 329099 :jix!~jix@dronf.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1315995001 942844 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1315995033 303998 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1315995048 46272 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1315996401 989273 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1315996431 468854 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1315997647 322593 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1315997854 613882 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1315997869 915951 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1315999121 189110 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1316000913 702016 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Reboot < 1316001303 272884 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1316001967 73144 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316002860 234249 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1316003769 494260 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Something saw my reboot as an opportunity to ask for another one < 1316003822 423839 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316004230 567753 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-195-181.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316004250 592089 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-235.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1316005710 366882 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-233-201.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316005770 106764 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-195-181.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1316008539 983307 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.188.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316008804 748056 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1316009049 491662 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316009466 75241 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.188.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets an evil gleam in his eye < 1316009688 760687 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets a gleam in his evil eye < 1316009694 229174 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.188.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by evil i mean boring < 1316009979 733058 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1316010182 560134 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316010297 538942 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1316010402 704499 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316010529 832266 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.188.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1316011611 702209 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1316014957 600829 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316015368 875835 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: wine for win32s. < 1316015378 430294 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect this to be implemented by the time I reappear in ~1hr. < 1316015379 606022 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thx < 1316015787 148119 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the baltic sea doing? < 1316015830 867924 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been studying for a quiz on the world map, and now knows where things are located. < 1316015841 291634 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like, at least for now, my dumb American syndrome has been cured. < 1316015926 920534 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not frozen over yet < 1316015941 109327 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good. < 1316015969 232982 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :although judging by the last winter it might well happen this year < 1316016001 545228 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they hadn't had that for at least 50 years < 1316016056 319202 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think lakes in northern Canada freeze often (...?) and they're on the same latitude roughly. < 1316016063 188752 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but climate is weird and doesn't really work like that. < 1316016071 421439 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't < 1316016089 147209 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it is not the same latitude really, the baltic sea is further south < 1316016091 958943 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it is a sea. < 1316016095 294100 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and very salty. < 1316016108 301376 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is everything named sea in Europe a sea? < 1316016112 711302 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's a lot of inland seas as well. < 1316016131 983317 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Eurasia < 1316016133 44923 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1316016136 794988 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are seas too. < 1316016165 738841 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some seas are called lakes by some cultures < 1316016172 88078 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah we don't have those. Unless you count Salt Lake. < 1316016173 750735 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example the baltic sea is called Ostsee in german < 1316016176 753118 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the eastern lake < 1316016180 360112 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think is a... salt lake? I'm not sure what the difference is. < 1316016186 547344 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably an influence from dutch < 1316016216 473334 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference is the drifts < 1316016219 437288 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ebb and flow and so on < 1316016236 737935 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was perhaps naming conventions or size related. < 1316016242 885445 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and whether it is at the top or at the bottom of the reservoir < 1316016243 772682 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1316016250 909585 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sea is the place all water goes into < 1316016258 848439 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lake is a source or an intermediate < 1316016264 22598 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay. < 1316016283 910473 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you have a freshwater sea then? < 1316016292 648444 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316016301 574888 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1316016315 837296 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end water ends up penetrating the sediment and reaching minerals < 1316016320 833743 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the "salt" < 1316016331 671504 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1316016334 952657 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really salt as is, it's a much more complex selection of minerals < 1316016343 330552 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1316016364 595154 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why sea salt is a billion times better than industry table salt < 1316016367 224557 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would like to sail on the great lakes. < 1316016382 398732 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can get salt which is gathered from the sea by hand in the adriatic < 1316016383 264193 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only seen the coast (I guess that's what you would call it...) < 1316016407 577379 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume when you say "by hand" you mean "by hand using some tools" right? :D < 1316016411 689796 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently if it's very windy the salt grains crystallize on the surface of the adriatic and they are then gathered by the fishermen or something < 1316016418 137804 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1316016427 935240 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually by hand means as opposed to using machines < 1316016438 997692 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER KNOW SEEMED UNLIKELY. < 1316016469 510318 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for clearing up my dumb american syndrome with some of your geology. < 1316016482 490839 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately that will not help me on my map quiz, which I'm still probably fucked for. < 1316016605 234300 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's strange, I would think that things like the Arabian and Adriatic seas as being gulfs < 1316016608 257603 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not seas. < 1316016625 903037 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/that/of/ < 1316016656 492171 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, red sea is a better example than arabian. < 1316016785 988274 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they are gulfs but not by name, perhaps. < 1316016916 430352 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Red Sea (alternatively Arabian Gulf[1] or Gulf of Arabia[2][3]) i < 1316016917 564718 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1316016945 416797 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the Adriatic sea doesn't have an alternative gulf name. :P < 1316016945 576875 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a gulf is like a sea which is more connected to the ocean < 1316017182 657209 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the climate in Germany comparable to? < 1316017192 896541 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the western hemisphere. < 1316017218 947330 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :south or north germany? < 1316017226 162994 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :both I guess. < 1316017243 380170 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there is a direct match like that < 1316017248 556815 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine it's cooler than it is here in the south US. < 1316017254 639285 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1316017261 546966 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :south usa is like italy i am told < 1316017265 835507 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently 81 F here. which is... < 1316017273 989549 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking about how the weather is in bari just today < 1316017274 610283 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :28 C < 1316017282 5046 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it never goes below 10 celsius < 1316017293 532473 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1316017294 445674 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be similar to what i was told about houston < 1316017304 97452 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually does reach freezing here in the winter, at least for a few weeks. < 1316017305 991253 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the winter. < 1316017319 488248 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :climate in Georgia = wonderful < 1316017336 546615 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get really hot summers and still get below freezing temps in the winter sometimes. :P < 1316017346 86601 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like winters < 1316017348 960845 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're pointless < 1316017366 870981 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this summer was ridiculous. pretty much upper 90s F for over a month. < 1316017383 674108 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1316017385 516723 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what i like < 1316017395 155345 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, unlike places like Arizona which frequently hit above 100, it's very humid here. < 1316017427 430790 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!interp < 1316017431 18848 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterp < 1316017436 80735 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps < 1316017436 620348 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: acro aol austro bc bct bfbignum brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes chaos chiqrsx9p choo ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird elmer fudd google graph hello id insanetemp jethro kraut lperl lsh map num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 sadbf sanetemp sfedeesh sffedeesh simplename slashes svedeesh swedish valspeak wacro warez wc yodawg < 1316017466 650363 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure we have a temperature converter somewhere here... < 1316017480 457141 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was removed. < 1316017505 895978 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!insanetemp 90 < 1316017507 519492 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :194.0 < 1316017513 633993 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1316017514 753583 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the opposite one. < 1316017523 621003 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sanetemp 90 < 1316017524 97748 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :32.2 < 1316017526 473409 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sanetemp 100 < 1316017526 940237 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :37.7 < 1316017546 102313 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea 37 is nice < 1316017552 368130 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...not here. < 1316017564 766547 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :humidity + heat = miserable < 1316017578 695344 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~90 isn't bad though. < 1316017596 973446 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1316017610 867427 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still someone from the north US would be completely baffled as to how anyone would enjoy 90 degree temperatures. < 1316017612 855398 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gsumafumorozhdjb QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316017632 150901 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sanetemp 0 < 1316017632 630142 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-17.7 < 1316017648 367670 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but I can't imagine who would enjoy 0 degree weather. :P < 1316017667 265707 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 0 is a bit extreme < 1316017669 571319 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not far off. < 1316017703 469225 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case Italy is much nicer than GA < 1316017707 92534 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go there, not here. :P < 1316017711 372526 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :-17 is normal winter weather < 1316017715 52683 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really like that < 1316017730 516505 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i am learning italian < 1316017739 383693 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe one day i'll move there or spain < 1316017746 771696 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :catalonian is like halfway italian anyways < 1316017752 214007 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so learning italian helps with that too < 1316017753 92515 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess GA is nice if you like deciduous forests.... everywhere. < 1316017770 453686 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and really old not-very-pointy mountains. < 1316017774 733345 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's a word for that. < 1316017778 508795 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a lot of forests in poland < 1316017782 689704 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't do much there < 1316017793 222745 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :eroded < 1316017810 365874 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :north GA = mountains and forests south and central GA = boring slightly hilly plains < 1316017824 611319 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lives in north GA. < 1316017834 659495 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring plains are boring < 1316017850 19251 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. the great plains are kind of neat < 1316017855 452308 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, you really only need to see them once to get the idea. < 1316017862 865852 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it drags on for miles looking exactly the same. < 1316017873 588875 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is cool to see the... vastness, with no obstructions. < 1316017944 949284 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are definitely many places in Europe I would enjoy. < 1316017955 134801 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Italy or Poland would be nice. < 1316017969 37920 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't speak anything but English. Which isn't a huge problem, but still makes things more difficult. < 1316017984 787805 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can read some Spanish somewhat proficiently, but is terrible at speaking or listening. < 1316017995 854259 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-212.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316018002 331012 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you learn once you're there < 1316018016 343153 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-233-201.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1316018021 489245 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after years I guess. < 1316018065 392861 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do you run into people that don't speak English, though? < 1316018239 362992 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :people at the local italian were surprised when i told them they called the seafood in the menu "sea fruit" < 1316018254 628799 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1316018270 778168 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1316018282 69617 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Europe would be a hilarious place to live for a while. < 1316018284 323185 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what you call it in german and italian < 1316018292 58073 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's a hilarious place always < 1316018302 650140 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard america was sort of boring in that regard < 1316018311 701069 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes. < 1316018313 740728 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1316018318 641179 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really sure what makes a place hilarious < 1316018331 830137 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the problem with you americans < 1316018337 677102 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole melting pot thing is kind of inaccurate. < 1316018338 800500 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know what makes a place hilarious < 1316018347 112224 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's not really melting < 1316018355 483642 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kind of stuck together in one culture. < 1316018356 35146 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :munich is a melting pot < 1316018361 539620 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :london even more so < 1316018388 24846 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in london you can really get culture shock < 1316018406 368374 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :percentage wise we have more non-English speakers than the UK. < 1316018422 224462 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :america is pretty much jews and mexicans vs the rest < 1316018430 57862 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1316018438 736190 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, but yeah there's a lot of hispanics. < 1316018453 108281 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the major groups though aren't they < 1316018457 310812 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget black people. < 1316018461 698796 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1316018468 402973 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i totally forgot the black guy < 1316018469 541426 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Jewish isn't really so big. < 1316018473 463707 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in europe it's not like that that really < 1316018473 623336 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we kind of just have this color-code system < 1316018479 846783 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because everyone has their like < 1316018482 453555 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :identity < 1316018483 223807 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't really pay attention to actual ethnicity. < 1316018496 178928 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :where their family lived for 1000s of years since it evolved from a fern < 1316018540 441445 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on where you go really. < 1316018552 499150 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah it's like that everywhere < 1316018554 512420 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the south for instance most immigrants are hispanic < 1316018559 577774 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1316018562 690123 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what you mean < 1316018564 120757 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok < 1316018570 198225 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, well, uh, the spanish speaking countries are south of us. < 1316018580 621457 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1316018595 654405 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have just had two copies of the same partition on my computer < 1316018610 535078 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine in the north you get more europeans and people of Jewish decent. < 1316018618 217840 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one was updated, recovered, fixed, and had a newer kernel < 1316018623 565899 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :grub loaded the kernel from that < 1316018625 533894 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's odd. < 1316018628 336857 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mounted the other one < 1316018634 949632 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it couldn't find the modules :D < 1316018637 955948 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarity ensued. < 1316018640 70263 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of native Georgians actually come from colonial German immigrants. < 1316018661 72206 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine I am a descendent from one of these immigrants. < 1316018668 584788 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't really know. < 1316018724 8263 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then in New York for example you have a lot of people who descend from colonial Irish people < 1316018731 623415 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it really just depends on the location as to the ethnic make-up. < 1316018748 864243 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "general American white mutt" permeates everywhere. :P < 1316018805 255217 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the movie 'gangs of new york' < 1316018817 569383 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen that one. < 1316018828 358812 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a historical reconstruction of the every day life of the irish minority in the early days of new york < 1316018844 962249 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1316018852 202202 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not really) < 1316018864 942885 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Hollywood bastardization of such? < 1316018870 45268 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah we're good at that. < 1316018876 940473 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it is a movie about gangs in new york < 1316018881 935555 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1316018884 212210 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :beating and killing eachother up < 1316018890 524350 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fun. < 1316018896 893489 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"killing eachother up" < 1316018912 152690 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: be quiet roger or I'll kill you up. < 1316018914 76773 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah funny how it came out innit? < 1316018917 925803 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1316018924 719708 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know daniel day lewis? of "my left foot" fame? < 1316018928 535489 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you've seen that movie < 1316018931 304761 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noepep < 1316018938 906481 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CANNOT TALK ANYMORE I MUST BE AT SCHOOL. < 1316018946 183024 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a terrible procrastinator. < 1316018946 629860 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he also played a character in gangs of new york < 1316018952 317281 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was good in both movies < 1316018957 858853 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :both roles were also very similar < 1316018970 582588 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not really, they were amazingly different) < 1316018979 639384 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will return in.... about 2 and a half hours. < 1316018997 847105 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually 1 and a half < 1316019013 67125 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait, what... < 1316019029 208059 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 hours. there we go... < 1316019035 571579 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN DO MATHZ < 1316019150 413431 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it is really strange to me that non-Americans talk about American movies. < 1316019157 829873 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and watch them. < 1316019159 118534 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot. < 1316019173 927048 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wnukyyevrxmbyltj JOIN :#esoteric < 1316019214 446244 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET YOUR OWN MOVIES. < 1316019243 702438 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1316019244 649933 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I notice a distinct lack of wine for win32s. < 1316019259 360388 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :win32s? < 1316019273 668458 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1316019277 524885 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind. < 1316019287 745013 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget i ever asked. < 1316019306 649821 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: get vodka instead. < 1316019310 984488 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will help you < 1316019315 758724 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahahaha < 1316019319 849566 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..okay I'm gone now. < 1316019500 355300 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to represent anything masthematically correct in category theory in Haskell? < 1316019524 458948 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be but i'd call that masthurbation < 1316019540 961894 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-7.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if you're a masthodon < 1316019665 56057 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean? < 1316019744 446271 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the classes in Haskell called in category theory? < 1316020418 185906 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are only a few that I know of. < 1316020428 755996 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are... monoids. Categories are categories. Monads are monads. < 1316020521 533213 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you'll get anything too amazing by trying to apply category theory to programming in Haskell. < 1316020534 690724 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does help to understand some of the concepts. < 1316020586 501425 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean classes in general. < 1316020634 631692 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a typeclass is a set of polymorphic functions < 1316020647 522694 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would make it something like a... set of sets of morphisms? < 1316020685 922657 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is teh category theory exphurt < 1316020753 75657 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you have to account for Haskell's polymorphic functions being represented by multiple monomorphic morphisms in category theory. < 1316020806 727633 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know about that < 1316020812 149977 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet copumpkin or oerjan know more about this... < 1316020956 344554 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I believe a set of morphism sets would be accurate. < 1316020960 959176 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :each instance is an additional subset. < 1316021257 603941 :CakeProphet!~adam@h233.44.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1316021458 356960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316021515 565126 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316021773 459134 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1316021920 77330 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:32:25: are you familiar with ?: in other languages? church booleans work like that except automatically... you don't need ?: < 1316021937 463171 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am very sceptical of cakeprophet's approach to teaching iti. < 1316021963 531484 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially bringing haskell into it. < 1316022013 329538 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how monads work in Haskell? Church numerals are like that, only better. < 1316022068 470098 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wow, you just set off seething hatred in me :P < 1316022098 161181 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oklopol did you see patashu totally own at minesweeper (apart from the bit where he lost) i dunno whether it'll make you feel superior or inferior < 1316022127 661555 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes a bow. < 1316022149 6539 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and shoots elliott_ with it. < 1316022152 946859 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also an arrow. < 1316022159 541028 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1316022172 188404 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing this is Minecraft and so I've sustained approximately one minor bruise < 1316022195 96610 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how the arrow pierces your skin, rearranging and randomizing vital internal structure? < 1316022199 496327 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are like that, only worse. < 1316022220 766697 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote You know how the arrow pierces your skin, rearranging and randomizing vital internal structure? Monads are like that, only worse. < 1316022223 56535 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :663) You know how the arrow pierces your skin, rearranging and randomizing vital internal structure? Monads are like that, only worse. < 1316022240 471613 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log monad < 1316022249 711968 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316022259 144049 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-06-01.txt:20:27:37: Slereah: the IO monad is what we refer to as a "clever trick", though < 1316022373 871774 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log monad < 1316022380 866920 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-02-20.txt:21:16:03: It's a full-blooded language, define what you want as long as it halts. If it might not or doesn't halt, put it in the partiality monad and you can still define it. < 1316022394 327454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316022405 392096 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: can you make it filter out everything i say so it's less predictable < 1316022454 969092 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but you can :P < 1316022479 697276 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the power < 1316022484 679670 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log monad < 1316022488 749900 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-02-09.txt:17:28:52: elliott, well hm. So you don't use that monad for IO at all? < 1316022491 259402 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log monad < 1316022495 192329 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-05-08.txt:23:14:28: A monad is a pair of functions. < 1316022502 948568 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: and a type < 1316022503 886092 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log monad < 1316022508 200885 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-05-08.txt:23:13:22: stop even trying. learn haskell first, then monads < 1316022510 695377 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log monad < 1316022514 952895 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-12-26.txt:13:19:26: soupdragon, are monads all Functors? they are right? < 1316022515 113100 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thsi si SOoooOOOOOoooOOOooOOOooOOooooooooooo boring < 1316022521 503933 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzzzz < 1316022568 483622 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I may have been talking about category theory, where the functions determine the type. I think. < 1316022606 785173 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Maybe you were talking about LAAAAAAAAAAAAAME < 1316022610 411047 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible. < 1316022652 832929 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the best minesweeper video i've ever watched < 1316022654 198263 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the only < 1316022766 585204 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think LAME has monads. < 1316022820 597226 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but LAAAAAAAAAAAAAME does. < 1316022889 643029 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stands for LAME-Aided Axiom-Added Ableising Americanisms Astutely Analysing An Antediluvian Astrophysicist Also A Monadic Exoskeleton. < 1316022949 308266 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316023128 688662 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I just realised that I already know what the hot new thing in parsing it, but had been mentally blocking it out for some reason :P < 1316023132 416503 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO THANKS TO YOU ASSHOLES < 1316023347 820745 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is? < 1316023365 531573 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GLR? < 1316023412 659451 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bison? :P < 1316023424 336741 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :RR(k)? < 1316023430 760264 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The parsing with derivatives stuff < 1316023452 104883 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Most people ignored it after Russ Cox thought it went exponential for a certain left-recursive grammar but then it turns out that it actually doesn't at all) < 1316023457 348948 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works with any CFG, so woo :P < 1316023578 852058 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it also uses laziness in its core algorithm, so TOTALLY GONNA BE THE BEST HASKELL PARSER COMBINATOR LIBRARY EVERRRRRRRRRRR < 1316024347 175202 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: you're boring < 1316024361 888534 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: th < 1316024362 736289 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1316024390 433910 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :th < 1316024392 101171 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x is the best word. < 1316024421 49504 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1316024422 488080 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or th < 1316024422 812215 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1316024424 674933 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1316024441 845559 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :th < 1316024442 654955 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x. < 1316024476 747056 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words with newline chars are indeed pretty cool < 1316024505 188950 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THX < 1316024555 175037 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (\t.h) x = h < 1316024666 892494 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316024669 597062 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. now if i made that into (\t->h) x would it be haskell? < 1316024674 399186 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1316024680 333854 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Parser-generators < 1316024680 494519 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are WYSIWYGIYULR(k)—“what you see is what you get if you understand < 1316024680 655795 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LR(k).”" < 1316024682 649581 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Best acronym? < 1316024855 836754 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wysi wygi yurlk < 1316024858 492166 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is happening in the WORLD OF ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING < 1316024879 281825 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aside from Gecho < 1316024886 64486 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing < 1316024912 61601 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : if i have (\t.h) x and i made that into (\t->h) x would it be haskell? < 1316024942 869865 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is this opening a can of worms? < 1316024956 47793 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (const h) x < 1316024962 576576 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Not unless you define h. < 1316024964 762252 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\t->h) x < 1316024965 534590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `a' in the constraints: < 1316024965 694546 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `SimpleReflect.FromExpr ... < 1316024967 846400 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1316024969 948396 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck off, lambdabot. < 1316024979 82581 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: < 1316024980 324533 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> (\t -> h) x < 1316024980 520733 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::1:8: Not in scope: `h' < 1316024980 681105 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::1:11: Not in scope: `x' < 1316024986 102922 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given definitions of h and x, yes, that works. < 1316024990 404732 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But really, concentrate on just LC. < 1316025003 449661 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's itidus20 going with his education? < 1316025005 754868 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh... i see.. i havent defined h and x < 1316025008 630770 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is not the LC, it isn't even a superset of the lambda calculus; it's a superset of a different, related system. < 1316025009 439261 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1316025017 571709 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1316025075 302754 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one fascinating element of LC is that an expression can't reduce itself out of existence < 1316025101 294749 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie.. there is no empty set as it were < 1316025354 141962 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i am missing the point a bit.. arithmetic can never get beyond zero < 1316025377 638261 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean, arithmetic can never be a negative number? < 1316025400 897084 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, no matter what you do to an arithmetic expression it will never cease to be an arithmetic expression < 1316025413 684697 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will default to zero though < 1316025454 233103 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because the LC is closed under reduction < 1316025465 436208 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., the reduction of any lambda-calculus term is a lambda-calculus term < 1316025505 355755 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1316025531 816655 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, reducing a lambda-calculus term any number of times cannot produce something that isn't a lambda-calculus term < 1316026260 813640 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Youth Theatre started today < 1316026272 259854 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I am lamenting the loss of my luscious locks < 1316026318 980288 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (\abcdefg.a) mnopqrs will reduce to m < 1316026452 427071 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (\abcdefg.h) mnopqrs will reduce to h < 1316026472 681935 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1316026479 356652 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming h is defined < 1316026492 561309 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316026505 642077 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh .. does that matter in pure LC? < 1316026519 381878 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I think so? < 1316026522 898289 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask elliott_ < 1316026566 960086 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1316026680 225754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1316026680 386123 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316026685 326915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<itidus20> and (\abcdefg.a) mnopqrs will reduce to m < 1316026687 250097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<itidus20> and (\abcdefg.h) mnopqrs will reduce to h < 1316026689 228102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Taneb> Yes < 1316026691 144443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Taneb> Assuming h is defined < 1316026693 166271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection) < 1316026695 202929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<itidus20> oh .. does that matter in pure LC? < 1316026708 669295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can say "for all h,m,n,o,p,q,r,s, (\abcdefg.h) mnopqrs reduces to h" < 1316026721 321069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically it doesn't matter < 1316026740 943966 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316026743 609400 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh that is the answer < 1316026752 901831 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1316027449 650692 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133980.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316028126 142681 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to treat I = (\x.x) as meaning x does not exist outside of I? < 1316028152 573615 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if name clashes are caused by notation for example < 1316028152 980175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, x is lexically scoped. < 1316028158 729511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is completely opaque outside of I. < 1316028275 574697 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway, this alternative paper i found is a bit better, by some guy Raul Rojas < 1316028296 382426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A retired Mexican-American featherweight boxer, apparently < 1316028299 164872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps not the same Raul Rojas < 1316028341 46132 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ral Rojas Gonzlez (born 1955, in Mexico City) is a professor of Computer Science and Mathematics at the Free University of Berlin and a renowned specialist in artificial neural networks. < 1316028677 964954 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: crazy torrent: 40158 seeders, 38480 leechers < 1316028684 811335 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :never seen that much before < 1316028693 310308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1316028704 894464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect that's uh... not accurate < 1316028707 333362 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a game I'm trying out a bit before buying. Yogscast recently played it. < 1316028717 545871 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway that is what the tracker reports. < 1316028739 537895 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or trackers rather, there is about 20000 on each of the ones that don't time out. < 1316028749 658521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like crap < 1316028760 684036 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what does? < 1316028765 913974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The numbers < 1316028775 576849 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1316028788 91562 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but I seem to connect to several hundred peers just fine. < 1316028796 758269 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1316028799 648739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ten thousand or so for a huge torrent, sure < 1316028804 533584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forty thousand /seeders/... no < 1316028813 550017 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes I'm wtf at it too < 1316028842 37416 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe some are dual counted on different trackers somehow? < 1316028856 508720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1316028868 972282 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway it is massive, even if not as massive as that < 1316028879 805781 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there is some fanciful seeder counts that get around < 1316028897 387417 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can easily see a torrent with 3000 seeders and then wait for any action sometimes < 1316029003 764130 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: well there are no issues with seeders or leechers here, whatever the real numbers are < 1316029029 554081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I had no idea SQLite's testing was /that/ hardcore. < 1316029123 241973 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm? < 1316029137 590830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://www.sqlite.org/testing.html < 1316029141 981193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read and weep. < 1316029152 558262 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: iirc they have fairly extensive automated testing tools? *waiting for page to load* < 1316029164 429975 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, I read that page before < 1316029168 329572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As of version 3.7.5 (all statistics in the report are against that release of SQLite), the SQLite library consists of approximately 73.0 KSLOC of C code. (KSLOC means thousands of "Source Lines Of Code" or, in other words, lines of code excluding blank lines and comments.) By comparison, the project has 1251 times as much test code and test scripts - 91378.6 KSLOC." < 1316029171 999887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The TCL Tests are the oldest set of tests for SQLite. They are contained in the same source tree as the SQLite core and like the SQLite core are in the public domain. The TCL tests are the primary tests used during development. The TCL tests are written using the TCL scripting language. The TCL test harness itself consists of 18.9 KSLOC of C code used to create the TCL interface. The test scripts are contained in 617 files totaling 9.3MB in siz < 1316029172 265840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e. There are 27664 distinct test cases, but many of the test cases are parameterized and run multiple times (with different parameters) so that on a full test run, about 1.4 million separate tests are performed." < 1316029202 26931 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1316029217 879624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus christ, 48.7 MB of C code making up one of the test suites? < 1316029224 869582 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone written a Brainfuck self-compiler? < 1316029226 709734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even comprehend what that much C can do. < 1316029228 314928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: awib < 1316029250 716192 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well you can trust sqlite3 to be correct pretty much. Sure, not proven, but correct for most purposes < 1316029901 9594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1316029929 480374 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : for all y, (\x.yx) y reduces to y y , right? < 1316029979 855254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1316029981 741911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: if y does not contain x free < 1316030022 106264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You might want to clarify that a bit :P < 1316030038 233267 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of understand < 1316030043 357375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if x is a free variable of y, then it might fail < 1316030091 981854 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as (\y.(\x.yx) y) x < 1316030145 263894 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i guess could be rewritten as (\yx.yx)yx < 1316030156 509525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. although that particular case happens not to be a counterexample, i think < 1316030198 388459 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1316030200 322339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i should switch servers < 1316030203 118348 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030229 129071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1316030230 745828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just reconnect when it goes down < 1316030232 718191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1316030241 165216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030245 586689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: just reconnect when it goes down < 1316030245 746536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : or that < 1316030264 576201 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta disconnect before you get disconnected! < 1316030288 270022 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmm < 1316030315 720402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it could take my client a long time to discover the disconnection < 1316030320 962369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1316030328 542218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not exactly sure < 1316030370 601495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it certainly takes a while for freenode to notice the other way < 1316030415 20574 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what about (\y.(\x.yx)yx) a b is that a broken example? < 1316030450 860270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : which i guess could be rewritten as (\yx.yx)yx <-- no that's not the same, the last y isn't in both scopes < 1316030470 7399 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1316030488 440390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316030502 153277 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1316030520 28342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: you cannot get a broken example from \y.(\x.yx)yx < 1316030535 577944 :variable!~thing@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030535 899164 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-212.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030536 59510 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030536 59591 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030536 403680 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030536 403844 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030536 564473 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030536 564550 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030537 46159 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@130.232.208.126 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030537 367078 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030537 849741 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030538 10424 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030538 181909 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030538 181983 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030538 360727 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316030552 856016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that automatically renames things < 1316030563 415350 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1316030590 101564 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HACKEGO, NOOOOOOOOO < 1316030596 915098 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wnukyyevrxmbyltj QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316030598 392001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wish alpha-conversion wasn't the traditional way to present the lc :( < 1316030598 675101 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 836293 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 836460 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-212.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 836542 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 836616 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 836691 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 836765 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 836840 :variable!~thing@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 836913 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@130.232.208.126 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 836988 :oklopol!~kvirc@dyn58-57.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 837061 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 837135 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 837210 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 837285 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030598 837356 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1316030602 283497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wish alpha-conversion wasn't the traditional way to present the lc :( < 1316030603 6161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : for all y, (\x.yx) y reduces to y y , right? < 1316030621 629949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that to break you have to replace y with something which _literally_ contains x < 1316030648 24802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and y = x doesn't actually work, but that's a coincidence) < 1316030687 12934 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\y(\x.yx) y) (\z.xx) < 1316030704 963516 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that break? < 1316030724 783822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mutters something about de bruijn < 1316030728 239091 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah at this point i am just guessing :P < 1316030731 651452 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1316030732 197109 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill let it go.. < 1316030751 330408 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can study more when i am ready < 1316030760 787184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: that one doesn't work because of alpha renaming. once you put it inside \y ... alpha renaming protects you against name collisions < 1316030802 582087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only when you substitute something for y _literally_ in (\x.yx) y without doing alpha renaming for x that it can break < 1316030812 292756 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSITIONING SQUAF < 1316030837 692564 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1316030839 177875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it might be that your book consider renaming x to happen automatically with substitution too, in which case it's always y y < 1316030866 338773 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you change (\x.yx) y (\x.yx) x < 1316030874 310946 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this isnt from a book.. just thinking < 1316030883 646418 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ change to < 1316030888 702291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: well i was assuming you substituted _both_ y's < 1316030894 396661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the same thing < 1316030912 119012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, y = x doesn't work as a counterexample < 1316030924 820648 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give an example of anything that could go wrong with (\x.yx) y ? < 1316030940 783101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :y = x x should get pretty hairy :P < 1316030952 158386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\x.(xx)x)(xx) < 1316030973 493654 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh.. i think i get it < 1316031045 83444 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that what has happened is that i havent explored substitutions at all.. < 1316031058 599499 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so didn't realize it was possible < 1316031106 458936 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133980.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0.2/20110902133214] < 1316031283 410508 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316031283 410656 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316031283 571810 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316031284 382234 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1316031299 612463 :Zuu!~zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031304 272185 :Zuu!~zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1316031304 432020 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031309 428547 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031313 206487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the rules for when you must do alpha conversion when substituting are, in modern terms, about preserving lexical scoping < 1316031338 105011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it is possible that the idea of lexical scoping actually evolved _from_ lambda calculus < 1316031341 56098 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i know you can add (\.) around expression1 and thus it becomes that.. < 1316031368 761304 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can add ( and replace it with < 1316031425 97819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031449 80685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: erm you haven't learned beta reduction yet? that's the _essence_ of lambda calculus > 1316031499 153008 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031499 173592 :glogbot!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031499 517215 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1316031499 730778 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031501 331116 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031509 141295 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031509 244238 :mycroftiv!~ircguy@h69-128-47-242.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031523 926129 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031526 749891 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org NICK :Guest82930 < 1316031543 341755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't think he's learning it as a formal set of rules, he's just replacing it intuitively :P < 1316031557 506153 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick QUIT :Quit: Poef! < 1316031586 450815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, (\x.)() reduces to with substituted for x, while renaming bound variables to avoid collisions < 1316031598 914820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*name collisions < 1316031646 145867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and repeating beta reduction is how lambda calculus computes things < 1316031658 540184 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well (\x.yx) y to (\x.(xx)x)(xx) isn't really reduction right? < 1316031675 107619 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean it may be some form of reduction < 1316031681 882642 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what would you call that? < 1316031689 580151 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :substitution? < 1316031690 137837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's substituting xx for y, but ignoring the renaming rules < 1316031734 770376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could call it substitution, but it's not a correct one for beta reduction < 1316031746 302022 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it because (\x.(xx)x)(xx) is broken that it requires substitution to arrive at it? < 1316031754 13122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from Apple News_Europe@insideapple.apple.com < 1316031754 189008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :subject 20 Sept. is your last chance to get a 65 pound University Gift Card. < 1316031754 207440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that's a pretty heavy University Gift Card. < 1316031759 625292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell is it made out of? < 1316031806 508248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: yes. because if you started with (\y.(\x.yx)y)(xx) instead, then the beta reduction rule would demand the bound x be renamed. < 1316031836 214287 :Guest82930!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO I AM GUEST < 1316031839 199876 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, in practice do you ever need to do something likel (\x.yx) y to (\x.(xx)x)(xx) ? < 1316031868 64836 :Guest82930!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HEARD THAT MELNU THE OVERSEER IS GOING TO RETURN IN 2012. COMMENTS? < 1316031869 715880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest82930: hi < 1316031872 886170 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uobopicjekypebwm JOIN :#esoteric < 1316031873 732888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> (\y.(\z.yz)y)(xx) -> (\z.(xx)z)(xx) -> (xx)(xx) < 1316031874 605134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1316031875 305572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1316031886 815783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't break when renaming properly < 1316031888 945205 :Guest82930!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOULD WE FEAR THE GREAT OVERSEER? < 1316031934 595292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest82930: THE GREAT OVERSEER SMELLS PRETTY BAD, SO SHOULD BE EASY TO HIDE FROM FOR MOST PEOPLE < 1316031936 865083 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY THE CAPS LOCK < 1316031948 759116 :Guest82930!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL. < 1316031957 156591 :Guest82930!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*actually, that's the sustain pedal < 1316031960 348630 :Guest82930!foobar@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1316032002 202566 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i am not sure how to ask the right question. is it wrong to just say y = (xx)? < 1316032050 76002 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: no, but in some cases (when it is ambiguous what x is) yes < 1316032080 240997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: that's ok. but you should always avoid name collisions by renaming. < 1316032113 197432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically if you say (\x.yx)y where y = xx, you normally will automatically rename the bound x'es < 1316032113 894582 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : SHOULD WE FEAR THE GREAT OVERSEER? < 1316032122 962959 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if you are a noble. < 1316032172 483464 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does y = (xx) imply ( \y.) (xx) ? < 1316032179 458738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: it is even common when representing lambda calculus in computers to use a representation where bound variables aren't named, that's the deBruijn indexes elliott mentioned < 1316032203 697739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that avoids a lot of this trouble < 1316032223 53239 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even just to pretend everything is combinator calculus because it's so much easier. < 1316032245 195578 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combinator calculus is harder to write but easier to read < 1316032250 948409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: no. the y to the right is bound, so not the same variable really < 1316032266 139133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: er or wait < 1316032287 763206 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm .. i will restate < 1316032305 767371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: actually, yes, you can always incorporate equations in that way, which is why pure lambda calculus doesn't really need them < 1316032336 110003 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when going from (\x.yx) y to (\x.(xx)x)(xx) is ( \y.) (xx) implied? < 1316032368 205093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: not if you want it to break. < 1316032384 947653 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you never want it to break right? < 1316032439 407646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: wikipedia suggests the term "capture-avoiding substitutions" for the ones involving renaming < 1316032442 370670 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhmmm ok in other words < 1316032458 579843 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (\x.yx) y is safe as long as you use proper renaming methods < 1316032459 275809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you should always use them to avoid breakage < 1316032462 935126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1316032517 806722 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so its basically that i said "for all y, " can include a y which is not following proper renaming methods < 1316032572 78628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1316032583 59249 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god I'm running out of disk how < 1316032590 204655 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAREWELL RED DWARF < 1316032601 188719 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you compress it any more? < 1316032640 597743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use more zippes < 1316032658 220379 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is that the compressability of a video is not much though < 1316032733 994831 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything "video format" is all about the set of compression routines optimized for videos < 1316032748 522122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh BtW I have to go to Ireland tomorrow for grandfather hauling, don't miss me too much. < 1316032766 608204 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a craic < 1316032770 624474 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1316032829 47529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not what 'craic' means iti. < 1316032864 843787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : FAREWELL RED DWARF <-- are you sure your priorities are sound? < 1316032873 35623 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-9.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316033001 961799 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I've watched it all twice, I need fresh DS9 to stave off the boredom. < 1316033143 890271 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-99.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316033211 719000 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i revised my knowledge < 1316033260 167858 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i still don't think sad events should mean you can't have craic < 1316033308 972555 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing i think i got wrong about the meaning was using an article 'a' < 1316033390 450811 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, no, I mean you don't have craic. < 1316033398 118629 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a thing. < 1316033438 245084 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it makes sense that i don't know what it means < 1316033492 173223 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, it doesn't mean 'a good time', it doesn't really have a direct equivalent. < 1316033502 836553 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. it is fair enouhg < 1316033505 101305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is simply craic, and it is sometimes good. < 1316033509 289645 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fair enough < 1316033510 681738 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-99.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In BytePusher, is the register thingy containing the current instruction automatically updated? < 1316033512 423192 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1316033901 620984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Mayor says we need to make aluminum items Taneb, PH says you need to make lava items. < 1316033903 568879 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :664) Mayor says we need to make aluminum items Taneb, PH says you need to make lava items. < 1316034145 630111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you feel the lava tonight < 1316034504 611466 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\x.yx) y = (\bound1.free1 bound1) free1 ; (\y.(\z.yz)y)(xx) = (\bound1.(\bound2.bound1 bound2)bound1)(free1 free1) < 1316034527 819861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, deeply in lava. < 1316034541 989316 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-99.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316034554 224954 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this making sense? < 1316034611 730007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: it is not usually allowed to rename _free_ variables, only bound ones < 1316034625 698613 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1316034685 953884 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i am implying some unstated mechanism for converting variables named free to variables named bound < 1316034735 966129 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no tats not the problem. nevermind hm. ok < 1316034742 451664 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for comment < 1316034902 592416 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry oerjan my brain goes off in 10 directions before just taking a proper literal interpretation < 1316035038 175652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with math, it's important to understand the literal interpretation first < 1316035083 148784 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1316035144 657798 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironically with narrative text the literal interpretation can be a problem < 1316035165 449333 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :narrative might be wrong word here < 1316035192 623180 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like philosophy, religion, novels, poetry < 1316035250 65865 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is formal vs informal < 1316035694 68645 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1316035939 555658 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316036042 807897 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316036768 974825 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1316036855 569743 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-38.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316036945 376124 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-212.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316037812 39356 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316038122 60650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Dear god stop staring at me. no never monqy is always staring at everyone. it takes many eyes to do this but I manage He is an inspiration to us all. < 1316038124 315763 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :665) Dear god stop staring at me. no never monqy is always staring at everyone. it takes many eyes to do this but I manage He is an inspiration to us all. < 1316038157 115560 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My quotes collection seems that bit more empty when I remember that elliott added like all of them. < 1316038174 542297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whose quotes collection. < 1316038189 356488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a monqy quote not a Phantom_Hoover quote you egoistic fuck. < 1316038205 646861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it is a collaboration. < 1316038214 178375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a monqy quote feat. Phantom_Hoover. < 1316038219 954947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy ft. Phantom_Hoover -- always staring at everyone < 1316038225 177767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :An instant hit. < 1316038236 495417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy ft. Phantom_Hoover remixed by elliott, a HackEgo production. < 1316038277 221739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Phantom_Hoover < 1316038279 686138 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.7911 < 1316038284 396644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just monqy staring at you, also I sometimes stare at you too. < 1316038289 272321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit that's a lot. < 1316038356 751628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :433) Hmm. I guess it's nearby GRBs that would be problematic? Sgeo, if by 'problematic' you mean 'what's that in the AAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH'. < 1316038360 57538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: WHAT IS THE CONTEXT < 1316038362 511694 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover's quote collection seems really small when he realizes they're all somebody else's. < 1316038398 386684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :421) Lymia, I don't know what that is but I want to hit you for it on principle. < 1316038398 558833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, glogbot didn't log this. < 1316038410 270454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log is pursuing the line of reasoning that eating raw foods can improve cognitive function < 1316038413 696228 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14.txt:22:13:30: `log is pursuing the line of reasoning that eating raw foods can improve cognitive function < 1316038417 239255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log is pursuing the line of reasoning that eating raw foods can improve cognitive function < 1316038420 904005 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14.txt:22:13:33: 2011-09-14.txt:22:13:30: `log is pursuing the line of reasoning that eating raw foods can improve cognitive function < 1316038423 859286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1316038425 73756 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1316038425 774902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log is pursuing the line of reasoning that eating raw foods can improve cognitive function < 1316038426 995652 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316038429 328934 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14.txt:22:13:40: 2011-09-14.txt:22:13:33: 2011-09-14.txt:22:13:30: `log is pursuing the line of reasoning that eating raw foods can improve cognitive function < 1316038429 824008 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a man of wit. < 1316038433 475419 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noooo < 1316038438 208492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs is pursuing the line of reasoning that eating raw foods can improve cognitive function < 1316038442 209952 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1860 < 1316038443 58447 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1316038450 947267 :kmc_!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316038450 965063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1316038455 348383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where was that from, then? < 1316038458 897482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it was -minecraft. < 1316038468 629176 :kmc_!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net NICK :kmc < 1316038468 805720 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1316038492 529990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: WHAT IS THE CONTEXT < 1316038492 548278 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRBs, funnily enough. < 1316038492 548431 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love all the quotes the context of which is lost to history because you added them from an msg. < 1316038510 824113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :563) Oh god. I've become a metallurgy hipster. < 1316038516 410586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Was that really after we started playing DF? < 1316038526 179455 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I already told you why that was. < 1316038538 56310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I removed the "Iridium is too mainstream." for comedic effect. < 1316038545 199822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1316038548 682798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're meant to use sed to do that. < 1316038574 855731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: WHAT IS THE CONTEXT <-- all necessary context was included afaiac < 1316038581 126778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Afaiac? < 1316038588 130132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1316038618 316286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes oerjan < 1316038620 753236 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.15374 < 1316038748 828029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log understand it perfectly\. it's complete < 1316038751 847214 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316038761 651097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log not even going to try and understand < 1316038764 812847 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14.txt:22:19:21: `log not even going to try and understand < 1316038771 582489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs not even going to try and understand < 1316038775 700533 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.23435 < 1316038779 67346 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log perfectly < 1316038782 586653 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-11-13.txt:22:18:45: Vorpal: With a GFCI it's perfectly safe. < 1316038786 552526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What is UP with these incomplete logs. < 1316038789 860503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log @ < 1316038794 313223 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-02-03.txt:23:09:13: @undo do x <- pSimpleUL; xs <- pUL; return (x :< xs) < 1316038802 795147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log @ < 1316038807 102012 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-02-11.txt:23:43:53: -!- sebbu2 has quit ("@+"). < 1316038809 99738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log \b@\b < 1316038813 665056 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-03-09.txt:03:03:48: Gregor: nearbyint@libc.so < 1316038815 892446 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log \bDMM\b < 1316038819 901459 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2005-06-09.txt:10:12:12: I read about Homespring for the first time today. Wow... that just blew me away :-) < 1316038823 688641 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: :'( < 1316038828 601186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, is that the real DMM? < 1316038828 812445 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That reference makes me cry < 1316038835 917651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What reference < 1316038840 114780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logurl 2005-06-09.txt:10:12:12: < 1316038841 921105 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2005-06-09 < 1316038846 823034 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 2011-03-09.txt:03:03:48: Gregor: nearbyint@libc.so < 1316038857 394094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it's real DMM :DDDDDDDDddddddddddddddddddddddd < 1316038860 2009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1316038860 161135 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1316038864 710410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sebbu: ? < 1316038866 452325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1316038868 585487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame `log < 1316038872 802494 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmm < 1316038874 369138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was here < 1316038874 386831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dude dude. < 1316038876 461295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1316038876 811851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dmm. < 1316038877 506764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was here. < 1316038886 39302 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come back dmm ;_; < 1316038889 759487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmm come < 1316038893 274387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :back we will < 1316038894 670096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be friends ;__; < 1316038916 374683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:14:47: I got some TV to watch... later guys < 1316038916 392356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND HE LEFT... < 1316038923 691738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`patselogs < 1316038925 432895 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: patselogs: not found < 1316038930 306400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh my god wiki drama < 1316038930 830043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:27:51: graue: your vision of the wiki is a bit narrower than I'd hoped for < 1316038931 7413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:28:28: I'm halfway wondering if you'll be pulling up those in-progress pages at any moment < 1316038931 25971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:30:29: now I realize it's your wiki, you're running it, and all that.. which I appreciate.. but perhaps if you're going to stifle the expressive purposes of the wiki we need to abandon your stranglehold and start a new wiki elsewhere < 1316038939 23360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS FASCIST GRAUE REGIME < 1316038942 856216 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs @pl < 1316038943 378089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs < 1316038947 182967 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.18293 < 1316038947 920500 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.2363 < 1316038952 87735 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, dude, graue was a bit extreme. < 1316038964 849382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No new categories without his approval? < 1316038966 618338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously? < 1316038969 234409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THREE MONTHS OF SPORADIC DMM < 1316038977 591107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Erm, it's never been "his approval". < 1316038984 210488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's always been "consensus". < 1316039014 110967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Also calamari said that just because of < 1316039014 622378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:26:11: graue: I'd really like to integrate EsoShell into the wiki. Would you like to work on it with me? < 1316039014 797286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:26:49: i'd rather not have executable code running out of the wiki < 1316039014 815621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:26:56: it's for information, not running programs < 1316039016 537082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is hilarious ok. < 1316039029 774926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is hilarious. I have a policy that this is hilarious. < 1316039154 145041 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the idea of going to a page for an esolang and at the bottom is a console. "Try writing XXX language now!" < 1316039168 788096 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm did anything happen to the learn db < 1316039169 832388 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat < 1316039175 230013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a good way to find esolangs that are far too easy to be should exist < 1316039181 717215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i wrote a better one but gregor woudln't ;__; < 1316039183 822186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it needed < 1316039185 912896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple line sends < 1316039191 519587 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did it need this < 1316039199 880388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1316039201 102484 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039203 712486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :multipe definitions < 1316039206 676833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok i will write one that is < 1316039208 762501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly better than that < 1316039364 807707 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for multiple definitions you could stuff them into a listy thing and on requesting entry without being explicit as to which one it would display the first one. on displaying entry it says the entry number and the number of entries?? perhaps an special entry identifier for random entry, too?? perhapS??? < 1316039383 10847 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiple entries is just a terrible idea :P < 1316039404 29198 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which learn < 1316039405 596305 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it a bad idea < 1316039405 614951 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn < 1316039412 76392 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste /hackenv/bin/learn < 1316039413 979387 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.30666 < 1316039416 772729 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Complexity cost huge, benefit tiny. < 1316039423 644592 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the benefit tiny < 1316039429 740356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/learn < 1316039431 188350 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039435 834933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/forget < 1316039437 742436 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039438 809358 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who the hell needs multiple definitions? Think wiki, not ... whatever the hell you're thinking. < 1316039444 22013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Complexity cost huge? Dude, my scripts were like ten lines. < 1316039448 539825 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste learnt < 1316039450 283308 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31091 \ cat: learnt: No such file or directory < 1316039452 548458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have clearly never used a proper learndb :P < 1316039453 908017 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Use, not code. < 1316039454 289125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin < 1316039456 120117 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee \ addquote \ allquotes \ botsnack \ calc \ commands \ creatures \ define \ delquote \ elliott \ esolang \ etymology \ fuck \ google \ imdb \ json \ k \ karma \ learnt \ log \ logurl \ marco \ minifind \ paste \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ penis \ ping \ prefixes \ quine \ quote \ quotes \ rec < 1316039463 212454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: No... it was three commands. < 1316039464 254820 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning multiple things is very important!!! < 1316039466 694792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And trivial to use. < 1316039467 651449 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1316039477 142896 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, because it would presumably barf out every definition every time. < 1316039480 278437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list what < 1316039480 451882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where provides: where url what where+ < 1316039481 674289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/Lymee bin/learnt < 1316039483 318036 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039487 81988 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/Lymee < 1316039487 247197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@what me worry < 1316039487 422242 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about me. < 1316039488 627784 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/Lymee: No such file or directory < 1316039489 876455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes, which if you actually bothered to rate-limit properly would be fine :P < 1316039493 878684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Stop. < 1316039494 402936 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/lymee < 1316039495 722601 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oy vey. < 1316039496 450699 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.19221 \ cat: bin/lymee: No such file or directory < 1316039498 85507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to add new scripts. < 1316039508 618274 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Having a bot that runs FUCKING ARBITRARY commands be able to output more than one per one is the < 1316039509 997015 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORST < 1316039512 32097 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSSIBLE < 1316039514 630068 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/elliott < 1316039516 26371 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okey. < 1316039516 65105 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDEA < 1316039516 329969 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28307 < 1316039527 532996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What is rate limiting, also what is maximum lines of output" --Gregor < 1316039536 561394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont have to make it barf them all out....would that make it too complicated to use.....(hint: no) < 1316039536 621682 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a rate limit, and a maximum. < 1316039539 382864 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rate limit is one per one. < 1316039541 360977 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The maximum is one. < 1316039553 539543 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your ideas. They are fucking terrible. < 1316039561 957616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/e < 1316039563 871455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/QFPP < 1316039565 393574 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14 22:32:45 URL:http://sprunge.us/QFPP [97] -> "QFPP" [1] < 1316039571 705475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv QFPP bin/'?'; chmod +x bin/'?' < 1316039573 486298 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039582 400766 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1316039583 968156 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316039586 581904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Not done. < 1316039597 31811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/OIib < 1316039598 215199 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14 22:33:18 URL:http://sprunge.us/OIib [173] -> "OIib" [1] < 1316039598 872273 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, greatest output ever < 1316039605 922306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv OIib bin/learn; chmod +x bin/learn < 1316039607 800761 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039616 370530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch #!/bin/sh < 1316039616 543258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm "learn/$1" < 1316039617 114154 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://#!/bin/sh: Invalid host name. < 1316039617 802513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1316039623 59712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/fgdX < 1316039624 170601 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14 22:33:44 URL:http://sprunge.us/fgdX [25] -> "fgdX" [1] < 1316039628 117435 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316039628 316736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv fgdX bin/forget; chmod +x bin/forget < 1316039630 234836 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039631 598446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir learn < 1316039633 408923 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039642 65647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gregor is the stupidest stupid. < 1316039644 292089 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 7: learn/Gregor: No such file or directory < 1316039653 454390 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip gregor < 1316039653 982499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh < 1316039655 29708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls learn < 1316039656 773244 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access learn: No such file or directory < 1316039657 113938 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the stupidest stupid" < 1316039660 595542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1316039661 819179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir learn < 1316039663 926840 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039666 171312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gregor is the stupidest stupid. < 1316039668 228791 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 7: learn/Gregor: No such file or directory < 1316039671 869148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what < 1316039678 490373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir learn < 1316039680 215128 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039691 678234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gregor is the stupidest stupid. < 1316039693 614971 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 7: learn/Gregor: No such file or directory < 1316039696 380961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ?????????????? < 1316039715 537859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls learn < 1316039717 158349 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access learn: No such file or directory < 1316039722 911874 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is learn doimg.... < 1316039734 355234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1316039735 174556 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1316039746 301512 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It doesn't remember empty directories. < 1316039752 705466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: lol@hg < 1316039763 602740 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lol@virtually every VCS in existence? < 1316039767 656892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1316039771 489633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :darcs gets it right, for one. < 1316039775 621249 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. < 1316039776 30139 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: FireFly < 1316039779 157398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think SVN did too. < 1316039781 859593 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. < 1316039792 838823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Dude, the only VCSes taht don't are git and hg :P < 1316039795 980387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think bzr gets it right as well. < 1316039808 686683 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :git and hg are virtually every vcs in existence < 1316039814 100087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/learn/wisdom/g' bin/learn; sed -i 's/learn/wisdom/g' bin/'?'; sed -i 's/learn/wisdom/g' bin/forget < 1316039815 927666 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039817 625238 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been too long since I've used bzr to corroborate *shrugs* < 1316039828 959102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir wisdom; echo "is a big stupid stupid." >wisdom/Gregor < 1316039831 40370 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316039832 247165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Gregor < 1316039833 936042 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316039838 396104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1316039840 199304 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor < 1316039843 107220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1316039844 10941 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh good, so now you can't just say the name ... < 1316039853 49103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes, because that was terrible :P < 1316039858 279527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/? < 1316039859 959806 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/? < 1316039865 795979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1316039865 930971 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'll admit that having it get in the way of cat was kinda bad. < 1316039868 763577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/? < 1316039870 549931 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25292 < 1316039870 853027 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that URL ain't gonna work at all X-D < 1316039877 602301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1316039885 781235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/Gregor < 1316039887 582100 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/Gregor < 1316039890 660600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1316039899 19017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I misunderstanding what -e does? :P < 1316039930 915475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp < 1316039935 794595 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/Gregor < 1316039937 658668 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a big stupid stupid. < 1316039958 217753 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run [ -e wisdom/Gregor ] && echo hewoo < 1316039959 664715 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hewoo < 1316039962 651785 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log wisdom < 1316039965 951407 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14.txt:22:39:22: `log wisdom < 1316039980 283095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? . < 1316039982 162730 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/.: Is a directory \ . < 1316039987 953769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice X-D < 1316040003 144288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ../bin/? < 1316040004 863489 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../bin/? #!/bin/sh \ [ -e "wisdom/$1" ] || { echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; } \ echo "$1 $(cat "wisdom/$1")" < 1316040010 235918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feature. < 1316040012 678182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Gregor < 1316040013 952040 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed < 1316040014 301119 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is a big stupid stupid. < 1316040017 205288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1316040019 301779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It suddenly works < 1316040025 221678 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? echo < 1316040026 901577 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316040029 715130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes monqy < 1316040031 918233 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1494 < 1316040032 848629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to start documenting the masses < 1316040044 314101 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gregor Wrote the bot. Better than you. For most values of "you". < 1316040046 114859 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040048 887934 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1316040050 997227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wrong style :P < 1316040052 842591 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Gregor < 1316040054 246382 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh foo < 1316040054 500835 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor "you". < 1316040055 285482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Following `learn is a full sentence. < 1316040057 196690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1316040058 68171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1316040058 88791 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1316040064 903377 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go with that. < 1316040066 255786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor "you". < 1316040066 525657 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works for me. < 1316040074 297053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : topic=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/ .*//') < 1316040074 503967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : info=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/.* //') < 1316040077 950398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK sed-experts, help me out here :P < 1316040087 352928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't use /g < 1316040088 264522 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :info removes everything before the last space there. < 1316040088 746169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So?? < 1316040095 49622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hmm < 1316040097 398320 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :.* is greedy < 1316040102 194692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I make it be tighter >_> < 1316040104 743922 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want [^ ]* < 1316040105 239106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.*? is perlism < 1316040108 720391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thx :P < 1316040117 408369 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, as far as I know there's no non-greedy modifier for sed. < 1316040123 190760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/ECNd < 1316040124 164610 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14 22:42:04 URL:http://sprunge.us/ECNd [178] -> "ECNd" [1] < 1316040128 412071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv ECNd bin/learn; chmod +x bin/learn < 1316040130 202954 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040135 29546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gregor wrote the bot, which is why he's terrible. < 1316040136 894920 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040138 295507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Gregor < 1316040140 127503 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor wrote the bot, which is why he's terrible. < 1316040145 874172 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No output" isn't the ideal output :P < 1316040154 959338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK FINE TIME FOR SOME MEGA OUTPUT < 1316040170 605632 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about "Filling me with your knowledge gives me a sexual kind of pleasure." < 1316040181 150674 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how Transmission concludes, from a rate of consistently between 50 and 100 KiB/s, that it will take twelve hours to torrent 3GB. < 1316040213 59783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/aJVh < 1316040213 832727 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14 22:43:33 URL:http://sprunge.us/aJVh [198] -> "aJVh" [1] < 1316040219 503726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv aJVh bin/learn; chmod +x bin/learn < 1316040221 218582 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040228 380836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo "Forget what?"' >>bin/forget < 1316040230 65078 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040238 992406 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gregor Wrote the bot. Better than you. For most values of "you". < 1316040241 107253 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316040243 604199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NOT A SENTENCE < 1316040248 594935 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget Gregor < 1316040250 353507 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1316040255 252485 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gregor Wrote the bot. Better than you. For most values of "you". < 1316040257 407405 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 7: wisdom/Gregor: No such file or directory \ I knew that. < 1316040261 154276 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet. < 1316040265 68027 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3000000 / (75*60) < 1316040265 767545 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 666.6666666666666 < 1316040274 653026 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3000000 / (75*60*60) < 1316040275 203446 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 11.11111111111111 < 1316040278 410670 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Gregor < 1316040279 357795 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1316040280 151260 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316040288 867371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir wisdom; echo "You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry." >wisdom/.doorstop < 1316040290 572747 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040293 220269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? .doorstop < 1316040295 224273 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.doorstop You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. < 1316040298 61537 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You yeah :P < 1316040300 727298 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gregor Wrote the bot. Better than you. For most values of "you". < 1316040302 738477 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316040304 29354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir wisdom; echo "is -- You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry." >wisdom/.doorstop < 1316040305 941469 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `wisdom': File exists < 1316040305 962125 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr ... "Oh yeah" < 1316040311 174132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, computers, stop being better than me at arithmetic. < 1316040311 520536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? .doorstop < 1316040313 563522 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.doorstop is -- You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. < 1316040314 336351 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → sleep < 1316040316 924071 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1316040319 428953 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Gregor < 1316040320 842076 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor Wrote the bot. Better than you. For most values of "you". < 1316040325 804747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to de-capitalise that w >_> < 1316040327 939298 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gregor wrote the bot. Better than you. For most values of "you". < 1316040329 871253 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316040331 112665 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Gregor < 1316040332 930605 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor wrote the bot. Better than you. For most values of "you". < 1316040342 206138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1316040349 439474 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now just to configure the bot to make that file unwritable :P < 1316040350 41366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to make it de-capitalise the queries < 1316040356 312828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that < 1316040357 181454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gregor < 1316040358 54889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DTRT :P < 1316040358 909209 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316040476 596109 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM AN INSULIN NINJA < 1316040479 778615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/IWUd < 1316040480 781857 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14 22:48:00 URL:http://sprunge.us/IWUd [126] -> "IWUd" [1] < 1316040494 612198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv IWUd bin/'?'; chmod +x bin/'?' < 1316040496 328255 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040501 588145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/HggH < 1316040502 704275 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14 22:48:22 URL:http://sprunge.us/HggH [250] -> "HggH" [1] < 1316040507 330385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv HggH bin/learn; chmod +x bin/learn < 1316040509 288096 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040522 337197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/LYaH < 1316040523 365222 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14 22:48:43 URL:http://sprunge.us/LYaH [69] -> "LYaH" [1] < 1316040524 811648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(learn you a haskell :DDddd) < 1316040530 178932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv LYaH bin/forget; chmod +x bin/forget < 1316040531 808495 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040535 791868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r wisdom < 1316040537 573620 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040549 994967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir wisdom; echo "You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry." >wisdom/.doorstop < 1316040551 706886 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040552 848399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? DoorStop < 1316040554 764991 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DoorStop? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316040559 159440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;__; < 1316040560 203883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? DoorStop < 1316040562 98153 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DoorStop? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316040571 427581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1316040572 994636 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1316040574 781146 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316040574 910000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? .DoorStop < 1316040576 760731 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. < 1316040585 725881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: OK gogogo :P < 1316040588 361561 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gREGOR < 1316040590 346442 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gREGOR? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316040600 804607 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -a wisdom < 1316040602 569037 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \ .. \ .doorstop < 1316040605 124215 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1316040607 419827 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ? < 1316040608 865992 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gregor wrote the bot. Better than you. For most values of "you". < 1316040609 41635 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/? < 1316040611 185014 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316040616 531720 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gREGOR < 1316040618 427710 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor wrote the bot. Better than you. For most values of "you". < 1316040620 738508 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste /hackenv/bin/? < 1316040622 721871 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.6482 < 1316040653 547728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '#!/bin/sh' >bin/pastewisdom; echo 'cat wisdom/* | paste' >>bin/pastewisdom; chmod +x bin/pastewisdom < 1316040655 243466 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040659 693167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmhmm < 1316040660 589368 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Wiki , the, is at http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Main_Page < 1316040663 46868 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316040680 773164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/XAGK < 1316040681 910460 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14 22:51:21 URL:http://sprunge.us/XAGK [143] -> "XAGK" [1] < 1316040686 343239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv XAGK bin/learn; chmod +X bin/learn < 1316040688 427534 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040689 475452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/learn < 1316040691 299028 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040694 965723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod -X bin/learn < 1316040696 864462 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040699 142240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't really want topics with spaces. < 1316040700 881591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1316040703 36854 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27806 < 1316040716 253927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You can do that without the space after the comma btw. < 1316040727 482491 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"before" I assume you mean? < 1316040733 961387 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it only accepts alpha(num)? < 1316040740 276270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "The wiki is at http://esolangs.org/wiki" >wisdom/wiki < 1316040742 129243 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040743 273519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Secret haxx < 1316040745 13297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wiki < 1316040746 447716 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1316040746 856263 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki is at http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1316040789 486705 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which forget < 1316040791 193253 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/forget < 1316040792 501509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now to fill this thing with correct opinions :P < 1316040800 64930 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv /hackenv/bin/forget /hackenv/bin/forget_ < 1316040801 829497 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `/hackenv/bin/forget /hackenv/bin/forget_' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1316040809 652405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Being annoying =/= being funny/amusing/etc. < 1316040813 616194 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv /hackenv/bin/forget /hackenv/bin/forget_ < 1316040815 339443 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040819 890354 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv /hackenv/bin/learn /hackenv/bin/forget < 1316040821 402358 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040823 748264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1316040824 343647 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1316040826 869451 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: whjat < 1316040827 44570 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv /hackenv/bin/forget_ /hackenv/bin/learn < 1316040828 989331 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316040829 308566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Can you please make the bots ignore Lymee? < 1316040836 450145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :She hasn't run a productive command in the last... uh, ever. < 1316040839 763639 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: wahy are you dOING that < 1316040844 893424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 229 < 1316040846 368104 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1316040849 69390 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1316040865 672383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:WLaquitaCuevasa < 1316040866 714658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god. < 1316040886 704342 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolwut < 1316040889 308386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, some builders of Python and other languages disrespect PHP developers and deal with us like children of a lesser God. I have previously witnessed some Python developers particularly engaging in dislike speech towards PHP builders, in all probability because they do not have an understanding of why PHP received so well-known. < 1316040894 189589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS AMAZING < 1316040937 298846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log international hub < 1316040941 57605 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-06-30.txt:20:50:03: I like the international hub topic < 1316040945 691393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log international hub < 1316040949 220402 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-07-16.txt:22:36:21: The international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment | FORUM AND WIKI: http://esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | PASTEBIN: http://pastebin.ca < 1316040949 379101 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahhaha < 1316040951 998382 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO DO I, AIS OF THE PAST! SO DO I! < 1316040971 270254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1316040973 165478 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/learn: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/learn: cannot execute: Success < 1316040979 771657 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... uhh < 1316040980 333459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1316040983 496697 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1316040984 166225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: You get to fix whatever you fucked up. < 1316040985 533647 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1316040998 786086 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x /usr/bin/learn < 1316041000 672709 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: cannot access `/usr/bin/learn': No such file or directory < 1316041000 877241 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x /usr/bin/forget < 1316041001 58429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I bet `revert doesn't manage permissions somehow. < 1316041002 408993 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: cannot access `/usr/bin/forget': No such file or directory < 1316041005 228155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: idiot. < 1316041007 664034 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x /hackenv/bin/forget < 1316041009 307503 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316041009 929316 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x /hackenv/bin/learn < 1316041011 660196 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316041011 707624 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :< < 1316041016 197230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1316041018 322715 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316041018 617507 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It ought to >_> < 1316041022 847977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1316041024 663079 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1316041027 856865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Behold < 1316041032 739516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The newbie experience has been revolutionised < 1316041037 956242 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW < 1316041042 157847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mere characters are all that is necessary to induct them into the channel < 1316041051 37628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gone are the days of verbose explanation of the channel's purpose < 1316041057 251119 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazing! < 1316041060 258094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HERE AGAIN ARE THE DAYS OF THE INTERNATIONAL HUB! < 1316041062 699417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :REJOICE!!!! < 1316041107 95520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn friendship wisdom < 1316041109 64699 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316041112 498456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ask HackEgo what friendship is < 1316041145 401035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINE I WILL < 1316041148 97435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? friendshi < 1316041149 133514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? friendshi < 1316041149 707256 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendshi? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316041149 852061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? friendship < 1316041150 366048 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? friendship < 1316041151 647124 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendshi? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316041152 339218 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship wisdom < 1316041152 592271 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship wisdom < 1316041158 370305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? friendship < 1316041160 446513 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship wisdom < 1316041170 724269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1316041172 628532 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316041195 509839 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ../bin/? < 1316041197 441661 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z) \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; } \ cat "wisdom/$topic" \ < 1316041214 40323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/pastenquotes < 1316041215 778508 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/pastenquotes < 1316041223 439459 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastenquotes? < 1316041226 66806 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1316041228 678900 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastenquotes < 1316041238 262801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn qdb is used like: `quote regexp; `quote id; `addquote ...; `delquote id; `pastequotes regexp; `pastenquotes [n]; see also qdbformat < 1316041240 547536 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316041289 816569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1316041290 355654 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Esoteric is an abbreviation for Esoteric Programming Languages as contrasted with Esoteric languages such as lojban and klingon and contrasted with the occult, however those topics may well be compatible with each other .. according to itidus20 < 1316041291 596516 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316041292 325446 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316041295 921796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: ... < 1316041310 448147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdb < 1316041312 535348 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdb is used like: `quote regexp; `quote id; `addquote ...; `delquote id; `pastequotes regexp; `pastenquotes [n]; see also qdbformat < 1316041314 623717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1316041316 389287 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1316041321 38522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: DOCUMENTATION ;D < 1316041330 824971 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok .. i won't do that < 1316041451 815927 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have i done < 1316041474 517358 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1316041476 542834 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316041479 384984 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1316041481 188192 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316041485 243404 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo, < 1316041487 384269 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1316041490 651742 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: YOUR LIES < 1316041492 942889 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: THEY ARE LIES < 1316041514 610795 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/HackEgo, wisdom/HackEgo < 1316041516 402667 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `wisdom/HackEgo,': No such file or directory < 1316041518 963468 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv wisdom/hackego, wisdom/hackego < 1316041520 806824 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `wisdom/hackego, wisdom/hackego' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1316041522 622672 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1316041528 928018 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feh < 1316041539 145174 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/hackego',' wisdom/hackego < 1316041540 976378 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316041566 132828 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe `learn should handle comas.. < 1316041607 899397 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott SAID that it does :P < 1316041611 314152 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because he LIES. < 1316041623 595794 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1316041625 627892 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1316041635 440117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i did not say that < 1316041649 28671 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log `? elliott < 1316041652 772673 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-10-28.txt:20:41:05: elliott, -b and -m iirc < 1316041671 938415 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: You can do that without the space after the comma btw. "before" I assume you mean? So it only accepts alpha(num)? // I just assumed you meant "before" because "after" made no sense at all. < 1316041685 901631 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316041713 838789 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? < 1316041715 837885 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316041744 620343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: literally my only achievement. < 1316041752 13759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:31:08: i dislike the presence of chanserv btw < 1316041752 191111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:31:12: there's no point < 1316041752 209029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:31:28: and it just gives them means to peak at our conversation if they so choose < 1316041752 209118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:31:52: unless clog is a logger to a webpage < 1316041752 209178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:31:53: then uh < 1316041752 930071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:31:55: yeah.. < 1316041755 22675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:31:59: * Tefad stabs violently < 1316041757 176226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:32:31: -!- Tefad has parted #esoteric (?). < 1316041804 326631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye tefad < 1316041817 481550 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1316041868 859860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how he thinks freenode couldn't peek at convos without chanserv < 1316041890 340693 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE GUMMINT < 1316041900 63321 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the man < 1316041952 690399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this log is insane < 1316041972 240302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari rising up against the graue tyranny because his java applet will be ONE PAGE AWAY because graue doesn't want to embed java applets on the wiki < 1316041975 755248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/PAGE/CLICK/ < 1316042018 288185 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316042141 516941 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log applet < 1316042145 5210 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-07-06.txt:13:44:44: can applets be run without a browser? (:P) < 1316042146 931291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Tefad < 1316042151 377492 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.32098 < 1316042165 424538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao never came back after discoevring clog < 1316042174 828122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg but is on freenode now must resist < 1316042175 869353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :temptation < 1316042212 985109 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric : @oklopol: yes they can there is some applet player program < 1316042256 731172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2007" < 1316042266 489036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log oklopol < 1316042270 390705 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-01-15.txt:00:14:10: oklopol: And then there was the water thing. < 1316042285 216658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log < 1316042289 439885 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-01-03.txt:21:34:47: oh holland, you crack me up! < 1316042362 939636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log holland < 1316042366 538994 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-09-22.txt:23:01:42: alise: holland is the official name of the netherlands in polish, for example. < 1316042373 53995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs finland < 1316042376 535667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta get the finland theory for learndb < 1316042377 379391 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3700 < 1316042401 695402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2003-09-08.txt:13:17:43: ~awaken The Russian Federation is by far the largest country of the world in area by spanning 11 time zones in both Europe and Asia. Russia shares borders with the following countries (starting in the north and in counter-clockwise order): Norway, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus, Lithuania (via Kaliningrad Oblast), Poland (idem), Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhs < 1316042401 714295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tan, China, Mongolia and North Korea. < 1316042401 714451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2003-09-08.txt:13:17:45: The Resin Feathered is by for the largesse country of the world in are by spinning 11 tone zoans in but Erebia and As. Rise swoors brother what they flummoxed country (starting in to north and in contrescene order: Near, Finlandia, Extend, Latvia, Bowler's, Letdown (via Killmaimthem Obligation, Plenty (idem), Ukraine, Grace, Acorpolous, Kissykissy, Come, Monosyll < 1316042404 178984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ables and Nerthe Krow. < 1316042406 262034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1316042428 152376 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log finland theory < 1316042431 670269 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14.txt:23:20:28: `log finland theory < 1316042481 464686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1316042481 816311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-08-31.txt:14:55:26: There's only like 2 people in finland right? < 1316042482 871530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :onwards < 1316042484 286838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that paste < 1316042600 527046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least five of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1316042602 740514 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316042617 983680 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a citizen of Finland! < 1316042635 249920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's what they all say. < 1316042643 665043 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've spent two weeks of my life there. < 1316042678 582269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also what they all say. < 1316042692 916996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Write your one-line biography. < 1316042696 77289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The learndb demands it. < 1316042705 326794 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION refuses to be biographed. < 1316042713 782819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn shachaf refuses to be biographed. < 1316042715 906835 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316042718 486679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Biographed. < 1316042720 55291 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just about to do that exact same thing < 1316042721 48987 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unlearn shachaf < 1316042721 969632 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :biographed. < 1316042722 800165 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was gonna do that < 1316042722 912173 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know that! < 1316042729 460075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/unlearn < 1316042730 906440 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316042731 896270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlearn is quite obsolete :P < 1316042738 845406 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1316042739 594292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Vorpal går aldrig på biografen. < 1316042741 380177 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316042744 800118 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1316042745 415069 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1316042751 39777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a command to do it but you don't know what it is. < 1316042755 768591 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1316042757 208432 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :babies \ bin \ bluhbluh \ canary \ env \ foo \ paste \ ps \ quine.pl \ quine2.pl \ quine3.pl \ quotes \ quotese \ tekst \ test.c \ test2.c \ test3.c \ tmp.tmp \ wisdom < 1316042759 548336 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1316042761 104385 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ addquote \ allquotes \ botsnack \ calc \ commands \ creatures \ define \ delquote \ elliott \ esolang \ etymology \ forget \ fuck \ google \ imdb \ json \ k \ karma \ learn \ log \ logurl \ marco \ minifind \ paste \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ penis \ ping \ prefixes \ quine \ quote < 1316042762 968505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Vorpal is really boring. Seriously, you have no idea. < 1316042764 758198 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget shachaf < 1316042764 973781 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316042766 549663 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1316042774 580008 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget --help < 1316042776 582393 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/--help': No such file or directory \ Forget what? < 1316042783 60902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn shachaf refuses to be biographed. < 1316042785 342633 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316042788 876780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT SHALL NEVER < 1316042789 560190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FORGET < 1316042795 410059 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/elliott < 1316042797 218412 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env learnt \ elliott = Ignore this loser. < 1316042802 63435 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`elliott < 1316042803 756381 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/env: learnt: No such file or directory < 1316042803 975686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/elliott < 1316042805 307108 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316042807 457054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn these old things hanging around :P < 1316042814 610620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/minifind < 1316042816 166558 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/minifind < 1316042822 577657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What < 1316042823 954001 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`elliott < 1316042825 771768 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: elliott: not found < 1316042837 153753 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1316042838 857248 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ addquote \ allquotes \ botsnack \ calc \ commands \ creatures \ define \ delquote \ esolang \ etymology \ forget \ fuck \ google \ imdb \ json \ k \ karma \ learn \ log \ logurl \ marco \ minifind \ paste \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ penis \ ping \ prefixes \ quine \ quote \ quotes < 1316042862 490080 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do these do < 1316042886 556890 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`marco < 1316042887 656827 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf bin < 1316042888 166356 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: marco: not found < 1316042889 288173 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316042892 826896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1316042893 487562 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1316042902 635750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 254 < 1316042904 208296 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1316042905 950639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1316042908 109221 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1316042910 263792 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Aw, I didn't really rm it. < 1316042911 458603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Observe last two sentences. < 1316042925 801154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Haskell is preferred by 9 out of 10 esoteric programmers. Ask your GP today! http://learnyouahaskell.com/ < 1316042927 797156 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316042931 418102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1316042933 517101 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.9171 < 1316042936 985699 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I had previously mved bin .bin < 1316042954 495482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ shows. < 1316042960 659307 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. :-( < 1316042966 180994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1316042977 757285 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run killall -9 elliott < 1316042979 515973 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh: killall: command not found < 1316042981 474425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im dead < 1316042989 56887 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u dead? < 1316043001 632743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dead < 1316043004 114433 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :u mad bro? < 1316043005 113232 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead < 1316043007 563834 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1316043010 714940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: thatsthejoke.jpg < 1316043014 187160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn monqy dead :( < 1316043016 309191 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043016 794021 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -al | grep bin < 1316043018 671048 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Sep 14 23:30 bin < 1316043028 537438 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monqy < 1316043030 544744 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy dead :( < 1316043032 888412 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1316043035 325807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1316043037 132264 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard u mad, so i put all the things in your things so u can mad while u mad? < 1316043044 510896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn shachaf heard u mad, so i put all the things in your things so u can mad while u mad? < 1316043046 611792 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043056 917677 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no no no non on ononn ;_____________________; < 1316043061 266085 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316043063 691741 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /etc/shadow < 1316043064 223134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now anyone who wants to know about shachaf < 1316043064 572437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gets < 1316043065 283689 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc/shadow: No such file or directory < 1316043065 442722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the torture < 1316043067 203503 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn :( :-D < 1316043069 398398 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043073 109545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget :( < 1316043074 164166 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316043075 451079 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1316043077 170197 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget shachaf < 1316043079 171795 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1316043087 391057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn shachaf heard u mad, so i put all the things in your things so u can mad while u mad? < 1316043089 688761 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043090 657759 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget shachaf < 1316043092 935734 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1316043095 225333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have won botwars lasting whole days. < 1316043099 228699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn shachaf heard u mad, so i put all the things in your things so u can mad while u mad? < 1316043101 474685 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043109 244201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this is all your fault < 1316043128 950627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn shachaf is the one whose fault this all is. < 1316043130 917986 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043160 984645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn oerjan is just zis guy, you know? < 1316043162 972399 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043176 562450 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1316043182 976062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :z'is true < 1316043184 13726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1316043190 839377 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1316043193 499734 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't you chmod +x things? < 1316043195 664045 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/u < 1316043197 144747 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ echo i mad < 1316043201 436834 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid thing. < 1316043203 612677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can. You need `run. < 1316043206 334366 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn C is the language of choice for sexy, intelligent esolangers. < 1316043206 609808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/u < 1316043208 324727 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043209 230678 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316043213 619493 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, my echo got messed up. < 1316043227 401762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1316043229 491776 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043231 944589 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf / < 1316043231 965968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo works fine < 1316043233 377018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C < 1316043233 619541 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove root directory `/' < 1316043235 105111 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1316043239 396557 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf `pwd` < 1316043241 303683 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove directory `/hackenv': Permission denied < 1316043243 353516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa fungot!!! < 1316043246 148892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1316043246 855643 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf * .* < 1316043246 936597 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1316043248 425287 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove directory `.' \ rm: cannot remove directory `..' < 1316043255 645368 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This bot is useless. < 1316043257 940412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 274 < 1316043258 765723 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is way better. < 1316043259 430752 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1316043262 836307 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1316043264 836552 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043267 171531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1316043267 343023 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043273 467509 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :........... < 1316043274 304678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck y'all. < 1316043304 2209 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1316043306 237474 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043308 35671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin -sh < 1316043308 209788 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043309 78063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sodihfgfdgjdfg < 1316043309 776156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdfoji < 1316043325 218149 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@admin + elliott) (@admin - elliott) < 1316043325 722396 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Privledged commands cannot be composed < 1316043326 241847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1316043326 416921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043330 872585 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1316043331 292468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn INTERCAL has excellent features for modular program for the enterprise market. < 1316043331 573886 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, elliott: < 1316043333 486838 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043334 634763 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf * < 1316043336 198778 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316043336 409855 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't work. < 1316043339 782435 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1316043341 336411 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :babies \ bin \ bluhbluh \ canary \ env \ foo \ paste \ ps \ quine.pl \ quine2.pl \ quine3.pl \ quotes \ quotese \ tekst \ test.c \ test2.c \ test3.c \ tmp.tmp \ wisdom < 1316043342 259644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come :P < 1316043345 669311 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043349 859355 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1316043350 578615 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043350 889326 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Note the files in the root thar < 1316043352 181502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1316043352 352146 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043357 464047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: idgi < 1316043361 189294 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You're not very good at this. < 1316043367 340596 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Note a particular, unusually-named file. < 1316043367 644355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh I will be. < 1316043368 687964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll se.e < 1316043370 603461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'll be the best. < 1316043371 819646 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043372 865593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill be the utter best < 1316043373 215946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1316043373 393542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043376 527248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Ah :P < 1316043383 521453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Butseriously, < 1316043383 821381 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043384 153012 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Simplest way to avoid the stupidest offenders. < 1316043385 88705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best I'll < 1316043385 443546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1316043385 611799 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043386 897924 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1316043387 309842 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043388 94897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be < 1316043388 442363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1316043388 617476 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043390 12348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uiasdjnkalcmsdv]\ < 1316043391 54423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1316043394 17823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best I'll be < 1316043395 65693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is basically < 1316043396 457503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the best? < 1316043397 327179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1316043398 23582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1316043399 946776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best I'll be < 1316043402 29919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is basically < 1316043404 119438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ten times that < 1316043405 26590 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043406 70449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1316043408 22049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am < 1316043409 979637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best < 1316043410 841802 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1316043411 431602 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043412 231337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at reaction times < 1316043414 13028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to prove it < 1316043416 72889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1316043416 249226 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043420 80479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck the police. < 1316043421 997522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1316043424 86799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1316043426 372172 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :................... < 1316043427 571200 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh oh oh < 1316043428 263388 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we stop now. < 1316043429 505925 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admin me instead < 1316043443 786016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is dons an admin of lambdabot these days < 1316043447 952396 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1316043450 330827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shacha < 1316043450 852690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1316043452 832240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YESSS < 1316043453 517366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YESSS < 1316043454 562333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EYESSSSSS < 1316043457 347488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS < 1316043469 589378 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, @kill < 1316043479 12465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen-on < 1316043479 189099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1316043482 590135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1316043482 767088 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/COMMANDS < 1316043485 764290 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vixen got taken out of lambdabot. < 1316043492 51483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen < 1316043492 224556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Government enterprise is the most inefficient and costly way of producing jobs. < 1316043494 133678 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You're not *actually* an admin, by the way. < 1316043494 489658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen < 1316043494 834556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reject the cynical view that politics is a dirty business. < 1316043497 656558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im cry < 1316043499 749961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why not. < 1316043509 199662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why vixen ded < 1316043515 293859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: butsrs what's minifin < 1316043515 820757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1316043524 970534 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: olde :P < 1316043526 413951 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`minifind < 1316043528 154467 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./babies/babies.db \ ./bin/? \ ./bin/addquote \ ./bin/allquotes \ ./bin/botsnack \ ./bin/calc \ ./bin/commands \ ./bin/creatures \ ./bin/define \ ./bin/delquote \ ./bin/esolang \ ./bin/etymology \ ./bin/forget \ ./bin/fuck \ ./bin/google \ ./bin/imdb \ ./bin/json \ ./bin/k \ ./bin/karma \ ./bin/learn \ ./bin/log \ ./bin/logurl < 1316043530 472912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it fooooor. < 1316043531 836573 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1316043532 248142 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043536 275489 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1316043539 751675 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's find. Only stupid. < 1316043544 996241 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1316043545 548929 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043549 565874 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess neither of us is an admin. < 1316043554 176915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + shachaf < 1316043556 461345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1316043558 953109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I am. < 1316043571 235072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But seriously, why vixen rip. < 1316043573 334129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: why < 1316043579 461732 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has dethroned shachaf < 1316043582 489646 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't rightly recall. < 1316043585 247155 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Not really. < 1316043588 770493 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043589 93767 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grats. < 1316043589 440642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1316043597 709965 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043602 380960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But srsly, how am I not an admi- feck < 1316043602 728686 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1316043606 905828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :dons < 1316043608 992009 :dons!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1316043610 129726 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - dons < 1316043611 82868 :dons!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1316043611 848120 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043614 217576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1316043675 141774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: u r the worst < 1316043681 167276 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u r the maddest < 1316043693 1671 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The maddest ... < 1316043694 622313 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of all bros. < 1316043708 501354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1316043710 245039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im maximum mad < 1316043716 569718 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HALP I'm out of Danger Mouse D-8 < 1316043723 656652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: did you < 1316043726 268367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consume lal the dangermouse < 1316043744 683077 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only "lal" the available. < 1316043762 391189 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLUS all the Danger Mouse rule 34 fanfic on the web. < 1316043770 836739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's a given < 1316043788 870590 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1316043792 694068 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1316043817 96231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont need your admin < 1316043825 568172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn shachaf mad < 1316043827 836957 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043829 886082 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to add some sort of randomized positive reinforcement. < 1316043835 77219 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i aint even mad < 1316043851 670613 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn < 1316043853 486594 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/ .*//' | tr A-Z a-z) \ info=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/[^ ]* //') \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "I knew that." \ < 1316043863 546829 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1316043865 535300 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :c \ elliott \ esoteric \ finland \ friendship \ gregor \ hackego \ haskell \ intercal \ monqy \ oerjan \ qdb \ qdbformat \ shachaf \ vorpal \ welcome \ wiki < 1316043878 607083 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep wisdom bin/* < 1316043880 410683 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/?:[ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; } \ bin/?:cat "wisdom/$topic" \ bin/forget:rm "wisdom/$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z)" \ bin/learn:echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ bin/pastewisdom:cat wisdom/* | paste < 1316043888 119488 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -l wisdom bin/* < 1316043889 889314 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/? \ bin/forget \ bin/learn \ bin/pastewisdom < 1316043890 70669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip | paste < 1316043903 103105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also `url < 1316043911 388765 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1316043913 221066 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? < 1316043918 423321 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? elliott < 1316043928 109345 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#nethack's learndb is better. < 1316043949 945601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Gregor wouldn't add new message hooks. < 1316043953 257355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or multi-line output. < 1316043955 971596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is noob. < 1316043960 920598 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say I wouldn't add new message hooks. < 1316043965 137533 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said I wouldn't add multi-line output. < 1316043966 181686 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn elliott mad < 1316043968 636958 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043971 332435 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could be persuaded to add new message hooks. < 1316043976 197074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? < 1316043978 210236 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316043999 952301 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn u mad? < 1316044001 917531 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1316044007 12880 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/\? < 1316044008 710526 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z) \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; } \ cat "wisdom/$topic" \ < 1316044047 210078 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1316044052 602555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/? < 1316044054 204723 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/? < 1316044062 527118 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyuk < 1316044091 175086 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -a < 1316044092 899218 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \ .. \ babies \ bin \ bluhbluh \ canary \ env \ foo \ paste \ ps \ quine.pl \ quine2.pl \ quine3.pl \ quotes \ quotese \ tekst \ test.c \ test2.c \ test3.c \ tmp.tmp \ wisdom < 1316044105 626304 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat env < 1316044107 324395 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLASH_FAKE_GID=0 \ CONSOLE=/dev/console \ TERM=linux \ SHELL=/bin/sh \ IRC_SOCK=/tmp/multibot.HackEgo \ rootmnt=/root \ IRC_NICK=Lymia \ PLASH_CAPS=conn_maker;fs_op \ PLASH_FAKE_EUID=5000 \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/plash/lib \ INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.88 \ init=/sbin/init \ HACKENV=/tmp/hackenv.10379 < 1316044116 18238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Still got plash stuff set? < 1316044117 102653 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ./quine.pl < 1316044118 804212 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh: ./quine.pl: Permission denied < 1316044120 207055 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -F < 1316044121 706819 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :babies/ \ bin/ \ bluhbluh \ canary \ env \ foo \ paste/ \ ps \ quine.pl \ quine2.pl \ quine3.pl \ quotes \ quotese \ tekst \ test.c \ test2.c \ test3.c \ tmp.tmp* \ wisdom/ < 1316044124 107940 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl ./quine.pl < 1316044125 992576 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :open 0; print <0> < 1316044130 199036 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's just a file that's been sitting there, probably for months :P < 1316044130 335308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a cheat. < 1316044136 838650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh :P < 1316044144 87477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm *.pl env < 1316044146 58864 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044150 771082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm *.c < 1316044152 533436 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044156 464972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm quotese tekst < 1316044158 337495 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044159 464103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm foo < 1316044161 234122 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044162 205303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1316044163 625676 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :babies \ bin \ bluhbluh \ canary \ foo \ paste \ ps \ quotes \ tmp.tmp \ wisdom < 1316044168 336062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm tmp.tmp babies < 1316044170 54304 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `babies': Is a directory < 1316044170 116568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(babies is broken anyway) < 1316044178 964416 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll break YOUR babies. < 1316044183 502666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r babies bin/fuck bluhbluh foo paste ps tmp.tmp < 1316044185 301460 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `foo': No such file or directory \ rm: cannot remove `tmp.tmp': No such file or directory < 1316044187 361976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1316044188 623516 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ quotes \ wisdom < 1316044191 571437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1316044192 967211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1316044194 115035 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ addquote \ allquotes \ botsnack \ calc \ commands \ creatures \ define \ delquote \ esolang \ etymology \ forget \ google \ imdb \ json \ k \ karma \ learn \ log \ logurl \ marco \ minifind \ paste \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ penis \ ping \ prefixes \ quine \ quote \ quotes \ rec < 1316044197 666104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`k < 1316044197 989090 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wats the best monad < 1316044198 947465 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!"#$%^&* 0123456789 < 1316044206 719546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: IOT < 1316044207 715023 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monad < 1316044209 427423 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :293) Deewiant: ha, you were wrong, I have stacks, fungespace and MULTIPLE functions! and a monad! nothing can stop me now! \ 478) oerjan, little do you realise that everything you say and do is part of that great monad tutorial we call life. \ 649) Phantom_Hoover: Sort of < 1316044216 345301 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help creatures < 1316044216 710438 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1316044217 39885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :478 is still one of the best quotes ever. < 1316044218 546706 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes monad < 1316044220 733254 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3585 < 1316044223 660001 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8`quote 478 < 1316044226 314 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 478 < 1316044226 918336 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`creatures < 1316044227 493222 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :478) oerjan, little do you realise that everything you say and do is part of that great monad tutorial we call life. < 1316044228 267082 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look up what? < 1316044233 496367 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 663 < 1316044235 124298 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :663) You know how the arrow pierces your skin, rearranging and randomizing vital internal structure? Monads are like that, only worse. < 1316044247 633253 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/penis < 1316044248 863276 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "I'm a program. I don't /have/ genitals." < 1316044251 568992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rec < 1316044252 872465 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ rec < 1316044259 986747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/{penis,vagina} < 1316044261 221609 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044261 552924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid < 1316044263 643555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/rec < 1316044264 793031 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044266 251705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls rec < 1316044267 431245 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access rec: No such file or directory < 1316044268 877278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1316044270 242786 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ addquote \ allquotes \ botsnack \ calc \ commands \ creatures \ define \ delquote \ esolang \ etymology \ forget \ google \ imdb \ json \ k \ karma \ learn \ log \ logurl \ marco \ minifind \ paste \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ ping \ prefixes \ quine \ quote \ quotes \ roll \ runasperl < 1316044271 116521 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-blah informs me that jQuery is the best monad. < 1316044275 933752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's true. < 1316044277 780360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`esolang < 1316044278 122459 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1316044279 68074 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use: `esolang < 1316044281 751976 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jQuery is such a monad. < 1316044282 416566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Does etymology work btw? :p < 1316044284 507903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`esolang brainfuck < 1316044286 753721 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ Looking up 127.0.0.1:3128 \ Making HTTP connection to 127.0.0.1:3128 \ Sending HTTP request. \ HTTP request sent; waiting for response. \ Alert!: Unexpected network read error; connection aborted. \ Can't Access `http://esolangs.org/wiki/brainfuck' \ Alert!: Unable to access document. \ \ lynx: Can't access startfile < 1316044287 524494 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Idonno, I didn't make it. < 1316044291 650051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1316044293 771665 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology etymology < 1316044296 19939 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :etymology \ late 14c., ethimolegia "facts of the origin and development of a word," from O.Fr. et(h)imologie (14c., Mod.Fr. tymologie), from L. etymologia, from Gk. etymologia, properly "study of the true sense (of a word)," from etymon "true sense" (neut. of etymos "true, real, actual," related to eteos "true") + < 1316044299 311076 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to. < 1316044301 114299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You installed lynx I see < 1316044305 887415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/esolang < 1316044306 759052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1316044307 83529 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044307 573606 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes :P < 1316044307 995955 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ addquote \ allquotes \ botsnack \ calc \ commands \ creatures \ define \ delquote \ esolang \ etymology \ forget \ google \ imdb \ json \ k \ karma \ learn \ log \ logurl \ marco \ minifind \ paste \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ ping \ prefixes \ quine \ quote \ quotes \ roll \ runasperl < 1316044312 9274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just doin' housecleaning :P < 1316044312 27404 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology wales < 1316044314 163999 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044317 204937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/botsnack < 1316044317 553217 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/runasperl < 1316044318 248707 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo 'OH BARF >XO' < 1316044318 652517 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -e twat.pl alise < 1316044321 701269 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology whales < 1316044323 729034 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044331 114220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/botsnack bin/runasperl < 1316044332 447671 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044334 74251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO: Think of a better botsnack. < 1316044338 700225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 9d9 < 1316044340 109429 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :39 < 1316044341 697206 :itidus20!~itidus20@120.147.173.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology walnut < 1316044342 123306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1316044343 438246 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :walnut \ O.E. walhnutu "nut of the walnut tree," lit. "foreign nut," from wealh "foreign" (see Welsh) + hnutu (see nut). Cf. O.N. valhnot, M.L.G. walnut, M.Du. walnote, Du. walnoot, Ger. Walnu, So called because it was introduced from Gaul and Italy, distinguishing it from the native hazel nut. Cf. the L.L. name for it, < 1316044343 866828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1316044344 985023 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ addquote \ allquotes \ calc \ commands \ creatures \ define \ delquote \ etymology \ forget \ google \ imdb \ json \ k \ karma \ learn \ log \ logurl \ marco \ minifind \ paste \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ ping \ prefixes \ quine \ quote \ quotes \ roll \ runfor \ rungcc \ say \ sayhi < 1316044347 744158 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is twat.pl < 1316044348 423705 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $HOME < 1316044349 586355 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/ < 1316044352 121003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/commands < 1316044353 116627 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd `dirname "$0"` \ ls -m < 1316044355 989791 :tiffnya!~tiffany@188.215.83.116 NICK :tiffany < 1316044356 506282 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls / < 1316044356 678381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1316044357 514667 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ dev \ etc \ hackenv \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ opt \ proc \ sbin \ sys \ tmp \ usr \ var < 1316044357 725218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How stupid < 1316044360 11605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`commands < 1316044361 424093 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​?, addquote, allquotes, calc, commands, creatures, define, delquote, etymology, \ forget, google, imdb, json, k, karma, learn, log, logurl, marco, minifind, \ paste, pastelog, pastelogs, pastenquotes, pastequotes, pastewisdom, ping, \ prefixes, quine, quote, quotes, roll, runfor, rungcc, say, sayhi, strfile, \ swedish, toutf8, < 1316044362 315188 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -a / < 1316044363 591371 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \ .. \ bin \ dev \ etc \ hackenv \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ opt \ proc \ sbin \ sys \ tmp \ usr \ var < 1316044372 102779 :tiffany!~tiffany@188.215.83.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just noticed someone's been using my nick :I < 1316044375 805691 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how would you add things to bashrc? < 1316044379 680050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s'/-m/-m | tr -d '\n'/' bin/commands < 1316044380 850327 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044381 805590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`commands < 1316044383 59258 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​?, addquote, allquotes, calc, commads, creatures, defie, delquote, etymology, \ forget, google, imdb, jso, k, karma, lear, log, logurl, marco, miifid, \ paste, pastelog, pastelogs, pastequotes, pastequotes, pastewisdom, pig, \ prefixes, quie, quote, quotes, roll, rufor, rugcc, say, sayhi, strfile, \ swedish, toutf8, traslate, < 1316044384 595546 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You wouldn't. < 1316044386 686952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1316044387 740449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ? < 1316044390 351649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/commands < 1316044391 453750 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd `dirname "$0"` \ ls -m | tr -d n < 1316044391 525544 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Curses. < 1316044394 410035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s'/-m/-m | tr -d '\\n'/' bin/commands < 1316044395 695858 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044395 983768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/commands < 1316044397 258750 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd `dirname "$0"` \ ls -m | tr -d n < 1316044399 426912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/commands < 1316044400 795856 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd `dirname "$0"` \ ls -m | tr -d \ | tr -d n < 1316044404 627922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :..fuck :P < 1316044407 420534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/commands < 1316044408 729772 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1316044410 547060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls bin works juuust fine :P < 1316044411 419064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1316044412 595656 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ addquote \ allquotes \ calc \ creatures \ define \ delquote \ etymology \ forget \ google \ imdb \ json \ k \ karma \ learn \ log \ logurl \ marco \ minifind \ paste \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ ping \ prefixes \ quine \ quote \ quotes \ roll \ runfor \ rungcc \ say \ sayhi \ strfile < 1316044418 71295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/runfor < 1316044419 473144 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$2" ] \ then \ echo 'Use: runfor