< 1319155215 309713 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooooo < 1319155548 830480 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map ord ['1'..'0'] < 1319155549 759744 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] < 1319155555 230657 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map ord ['0'..'9'] < 1319155556 49239 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57] < 1319155632 859525 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map ord $ ['0'..'9'] ++ ['A'..'F'] < 1319155636 34202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,65,66,67,68,69,70] < 1319155649 213339 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :handy < 1319155682 248037 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :>65-57 < 1319155708 904139 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (chr . (\x -> 48+x+(8*(toIntegral$x/10))) [0..15] < 1319155709 717156 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1319155717 244296 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (chr . (\x -> 48+x+(8*(toIntegral $ x / 10))) [0..15] < 1319155718 527508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1319155722 855376 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (chr . (\x -> 48+x+(8*(toIntegral $ x / 10)))) [0..15] < 1319155723 812984 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `toIntegral' < 1319155734 383857 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Rational -> Integral < 1319155734 951586 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: Unknown type Integral < 1319155735 116805 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numeric fromRat :: RealFloat a => Rational -> a < 1319155735 263521 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude fromRational :: Fractional a => Rational -> a < 1319155740 641884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord . intToDigit <$> [0..15] < 1319155741 676642 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (chr . (\x -> 48+x+(8*(fromRational $ x / 10)))) [0..15] < 1319155742 253432 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,97,98,99,100,101,102] < 1319155742 543548 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Int' < 1319155742 732102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type ... < 1319155746 643996 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :char in C++ is unsigned by default yes? < 1319155763 661920 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-21-30.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1319155777 165496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> intToDigit <$> [0..15] < 1319155778 69383 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "0123456789abcdef" < 1319155786 840464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: char's signedness is undefined. < 1319155789 93941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in C < 1319155795 712486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :glibc/linux uses signed char < 1319155804 36812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1319155804 778141 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1319155805 382404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc/linux < 1319155827 65749 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :return ((int)data)-48 //so then this probably isn't sensible where data is declared char. < 1319155845 413115 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and guaranteed at this point to be a char from 0 to 9 < 1319155876 108888 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may just convert the char to a string and use atoi... < 1319155883 392260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the 0-127 ascii range is guaranteed to be positive < 1319155897 90110 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1319155902 204302 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't matter... < 1319157121 408945 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89DEC.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319157223 847498 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1319157826 763432 :ive!~nn@189.254.119.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1319157973 891905 :Zondartul!Nikita@D-128-208-32-89.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1319158109 183185 :Zondartul!Nikita@D-128-208-32-89.dhcp4.washington.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey. I bet this question gets asked a hundred times a day... but what do is your stance on the fictional language ~ath from homestuck? < 1319158122 201491 :Zondartul!Nikita@D-128-208-32-89.dhcp4.washington.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your stance guys* < 1319158154 981474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm are any of the homestuck readers active... < 1319158174 405786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i haven't heard it before. < 1319158186 350405 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :good esolang < 1319158189 669818 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm awake < 1319158191 224984 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that there's no spec for it so not really. < 1319158293 655926 :Zondartul!Nikita@D-128-208-32-89.dhcp4.washington.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww... I thought one of you esolang programmers would hack together something that resembles it by now :P < 1319158332 410607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have almost as many Homestuck readers as Finns now. < 1319158380 971485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1319158391 453290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is there any overlap? < 1319158419 100641 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world-destroying semantics have been a little tricky to implement. < 1319158447 944098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: By one, yes. < 1319158538 390105 :ive!~nn@189.254.119.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319160218 68193 :Nisstyre!~yours@infocalypse-net.info QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1319160415 72486 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1319160476 344519 :Warrigal!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319160481 434113 :Warrigal!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 NICK :tswett < 1319160614 616495 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There's a complication. I can't just randomly block the thread making the AW calls < 1319160642 797935 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that needs to call aw_wait() on a regular basis. And during the aw_wait() calls is when events are triggered < 1319160649 223354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: It wouldn't block. < 1319160678 244739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: I can help you hash out an actual design sometime, but not right now. You can definitely make it work out though. < 1319160797 888733 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is busy taking over the world. < 1319160864 78847 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone did write code using .NET's new async stuff < 1319160882 412789 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which kind of makes me jealous since I kind of wanted to show off making async calls look synchroneous < 1319160932 590924 :Zondartul!Nikita@D-128-208-32-89.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT : < 1319160969 683595 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Continuations? < 1319160970 333006 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::V < 1319161034 155522 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319161039 855510 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :STM < 1319161042 324404 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that. < 1319161076 162042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :N... < 1319161079 149674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o... < 1319161080 364678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't. < 1319161085 644749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STM is something completely different. < 1319161095 259244 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not calls... < 1319161100 411389 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just curious, why use an MVar instead of STM? < 1319161111 840936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: STM buys you nothing here. I presume you mean TMVars. < 1319161122 831232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't want transactional semantics, you want the lower-level interface of MVar. < 1319161134 648689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's never a conflict by definition anyway. < 1319161300 652926 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-102.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319161315 129199 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's wrong with "using namespace std"? < 1319161315 910618 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-102.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1319161319 829483 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :people don't seem to like it. < 1319161342 259314 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I really don't enjoy the propagation of stds in my code. < 1319161404 982299 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you're using it in a header, then you're forcing it on people, is one issue < 1319161409 855194 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-102.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"More typing is good" < 1319161445 374267 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell, it is < 1319161447 345516 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1319161489 164928 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: what about outside of headers? < 1319161649 260281 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you import the right header files you suddenly have names like hex, left, plus or count in your global scope. This might be surprising if you are not aware that std:: contains these names. If you also try to use these names locally it can lead to quite some confusion." < 1319161657 458219 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1452721/why-is-using-namespace-std-considered-a-bad-practice-in-c < 1319161717 170307 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay but what about when I'm not a header file. < 1319161738 698799 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that applies to even in a non-header file < 1319161784 51209 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1319161788 373852 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses namespace std.
< 1319162008 848515 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1319162044 857749 :Nisstyre!~yours@infocalypse-net.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1319162308 402511 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319162357 281851 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1319162967 117137 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-138.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319162975 477827 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1319162979 849466 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-102.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1319164800 848237 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1319164820 325572 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319165706 352803 :ive!~nn@189.254.119.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1319165946 209772 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1319165959 613841 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319166454 511268 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh what was the option to get debugging symbols from g++? < 1319166459 214960 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :-g < 1319166466 469717 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't believe you. < 1319166471 10791 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do < 1319166482 577510 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooppy's right on this one. < 1319166487 875873 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the same as any other GCC compiler. < 1319166499 212483 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the option for those either. < 1319166507 667778 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I recall it being a longer option name. < 1319166509 872558 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time I asked. :P < 1319166531 970094 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume by "get debugging symbols" you mean "have debugging symbols in the output binary"? < 1319166713 772015 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct. < 1319166871 178505 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh, then you want -gdwarf-2 -feliminate-dwarf2-dups -fno-merge-debug-strings -fmem-report -fprofile-arcs. < 1319166950 582347 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1319166952 210865 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think O' < 1319166957 306278 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just valgrind instead. < 1319166966 96347 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lols.
< 1319166989 574298 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca TOPIC #esoteric :Agora invades BlogNomic! | #include "stdio.h" < 1319166989 721360 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main() { auto anonfunc = [](int a) { return a;}; printf("%s\n", typeid(anonfunc.operator()).name()); } < 1319166993 38848 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1319166999 355422 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1319167004 990910 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you make me look at the ugly lambda syntax < 1319167010 308479 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have the log link? < 1319167013 271645 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mispaste :( < 1319167018 589679 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :pooppy is now banned from changing the topic | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1319167032 474032 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca TOPIC #esoteric :Agora invades BlogNomic! | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1319167063 349517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very esoteric matter < 1319167078 584487 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the esotericest matter < 1319167078 842329 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants a language where time and space complexity are part of types
< 1319167085 678177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Agora invades BlogNomic! | 12345678^&!* | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1319167151 122464 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: I would like some runtime value constraints as part of types. < 1319167171 780116 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could say "this value is between in this interval of integers" for example. < 1319167184 380342 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, insert grammatical correctness < 1319167214 937272 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that would be some form of dependent typing. < 1319168055 688863 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319168069 968744 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-138.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 259 seconds < 1319169834 969415 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homestuckers other than tswett: EoA5 progress bar UPDATE to 96% < 1319169877 378145 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :96% party < 1319170335 729834 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-33-19.resnet.ucsb.edu QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1319170339 893272 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship 96% < 1319170344 994042 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship 96% party < 1319170718 767131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey monqy design my file format < 1319170943 98420 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale... actually agreed with something I said < 1319170955 60432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE A CELEBRITY NOW. < 1319171140 371012 :Jafet!~Jafet@149.171.110.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319171141 312628 :Jafet!~Jafet@149.171.110.33 QUIT :Changing host < 1319171141 459205 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1319171308 192951 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of file format < 1319171393 374736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1319171394 567401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: reverse-context tree < 1319171418 324044 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't say I know much about those < 1319171447 160442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah but i mean i just need like < 1319171449 656035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b-trees and shit < 1319171450 398868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;__; < 1319171495 329023 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been fond of bee trees. < 1319171498 434866 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those things hurt, you know < 1319171776 891975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Oranjer < 1319171786 150771 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.4459 < 1319174730 532495 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :craaazy people http://www.tpuc.org/node/609 < 1319174742 986234 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DECEPTION of: INCLUDE(S) used by TV LICENSING oop's sorry! CONSIGNIA (CUSTOMER MANAGEMENT) LTD also Traded as TV LICENSING < 1319174752 304194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1319174818 923235 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this webs ite sure is angry < 1319174834 686613 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop ylling my ears are senseteve i have problems < 1319174869 622730 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319174892 734256 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please note the CAPITALISATION should not be seen as shouting, but is simply being used to highlight the LEGAL ILLUSION. < 1319174904 436163 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(however, it is much funnier if you yell the more bolded/capitalized/underliend it is) < 1319174912 552846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: did you read that Free Man site where like < 1319174922 734064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a contract for your legal fiction which is distinguished by being ALL CAPITALS < 1319174923 22214 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-63-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1319174923 541592 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-63-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1319174923 688322 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1319174928 314569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you go into court and demand they address you by their firts name < 1319174929 565564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not binding < 1319174930 738465 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's this website < 1319174931 190598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its so fucking amazing < 1319174931 964039 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1319174932 617490 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1319174939 604854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: no it was much more lo-fi but yes i am sure it is peddled in many places < 1319174989 696340 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i read "free man site" i thought timecube < 1319174993 22596 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the LEGAL world can only ACT (CONTRACT) upon LEGAL PERSONALITIES (PIECES of PAPER) they need the Man or Woman to REPRESENT a BIRTH CERTIFICATE, LEGAL PERSONALITY, a PIECE of PAPER. < 1319174996 517344 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the freeest man site < 1319175028 580483 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :freeest is the freeest usage of English gramar. < 1319175035 610361 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, if the legal system was run by robotic beings < 1319175042 54252 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :freemen would actually have a chance < 1319175056 72570 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-33-19.resnet.ucsb.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1319175069 920053 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can only act upon legal personalities.
< 1319175090 276239 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-228-27.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1319175098 605866 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a function that takes a pointer to a legal personality
< 1319175169 858341 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone seen C++ code that takes references to pointers? < 1319175179 295202 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also can you have points to references? that sounds weird to me. < 1319175183 601540 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pointers < 1319175215 607355 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1319175251 169792 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointers are weird < 1319175271 378421 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :references too < 1319175272 617764 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/1sf8shae(v=vs.80).aspx references to pointers < 1319175289 702604 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find pointer to reference. I don't think that even makes sense < 1319175426 230196 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1319175439 478194 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319175462 160312 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-63-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1319175462 381624 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-63-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1319175462 528229 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1319175564 579369 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: http://www.cnet.com/8301-30976_1-20068778-10348864.html < 1319175754 783471 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to operate a nuclear facilities using itunes < 1319175762 885627 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time I try to load that page google chrome's tab crashes < 1319175764 640201 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird....... < 1319175771 766452 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then put them on aircraft and operate the aircraft using itunes < 1319175780 559362 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff itunes operated life support systems into it < 1319175823 584126 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319175841 916768 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man eulas are nuts < 1319175879 230794 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :legal systems are nuts in general. < 1319175918 306007 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously we should probably utilize this great new invention called the computer to assist us with categorizing and maintaining laws. < 1319175955 484943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: they tried that < 1319175958 4752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and look where blognomic is now < 1319175962 446679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Sgeo|web: TOPICAL JOKE < 1319175990 930826 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca TOPIC #esoteric :BlogNomic invades BlogNomic! | 12345678^&!* | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1319176003 442535 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro++ < 1319176008 346974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1319176016 630749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a stunning success and therefore failure < 1319176045 87149 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I mean things like "modularizing" law. < 1319176045 368804 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is blognomic? < 1319176058 927737 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-228-27.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1319176073 309011 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you can refer to previous laws or a category of laws systematically, use consistent terminology, etc. < 1319176092 783709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: fucked < 1319176141 184447 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess in some countries this is basically how laws work. < 1319176155 479109 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no accessible means by which the average person can sit and learn about it all. < 1319176165 147504 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much legalese to sift through without obvious definitions. < 1319176173 379561 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why hypertext would be good, for legal bodies. < 1319176187 905576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://agora.qoid.us/current_flr.html < 1319176191 132384 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*legal documents < 1319176207 235499 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a category/template system. essentially like a wiki. < 1319176214 754802 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but without the anonymous editing part. < 1319176229 334057 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have weighted powers? < 1319176251 378929 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: a game where, supposedly, all rules including the rules regarding rule changes can change < 1319176262 295619 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In reality, it's looking more like "Ignore the rules if someone abuses them" < 1319176275 788128 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pursues the victory condition of Anarchy.
< 1319176296 128669 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can I play? pretend I never said that. :P < 1319176302 440805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: what, agora? < 1319176304 587143 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1319176306 818150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1319176314 730565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sign up for the lists, post saying you're registered < 1319176322 232647 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice ASCII whale. < 1319176332 495714 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try not to look like a BlogNomic player, and that's not a whale < 1319176342 574425 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on it has a blowhole < 1319176350 288026 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else is a big fat fish with a blowhole. < 1319176355 513737 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regarding the file format, following oerjan I suggest {a^i b^i c^i | i > 0}, as it cannot be recognized by a pushdown automaton. < 1319176370 253766 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whales aren't fish, but it's been a while since I saw the ruleset < 1319176383 558786 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1319176415 99962 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is permitted only when the Rules explicitly or implicitly permit it. < 1319176416 247823 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The @ makes it look a bit dizzy. < 1319176418 664215 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :implicitly, eh? < 1319176482 173372 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :spivak pronouns? < 1319176484 307893 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :weijiwejriuhwejr < 1319176567 388991 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :spivak pronouns = pirate pronouns < 1319177398 406885 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :[CFJ 2410 (called 11 March 2009): Consent to join a binding agreement < 1319177399 394708 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be given privately.] < 1319177401 348066 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh snap. < 1319177411 725125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: been exploited in literally every way you can imagine, don't bother < 1319177477 921359 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rule itself is a kind of exploit. < 1319177485 775959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1319177486 370938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1319177488 306263 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a, legal... exploit. < 1319177488 531119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too busy to talk about agora < 1319177489 126176 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :LO < 1319177506 138923 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you're welcome to be busy and not reply then. :P < 1319177572 809058 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case if I were planning to exploit something I surely wouldn't make mention of it. < 1319177771 324139 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1319179736 688247 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizzas are a good way to describe composing data types in Haskell < 1319179754 267906 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cheese pizza is basically the most basic kind of pizza, a pizza with nothing on it. < 1319179759 913134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from < 1319179760 760544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheese < 1319179770 959314 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but almost every other kind of pizza has cheese < 1319179773 260495 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the baseline. < 1319179776 129650 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for being a pizza. < 1319179816 298465 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in a pepperoni pizza, you just include the cheese pizza, and pepperonis :P < 1319179845 244208 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... basically as far as I've gone with this analogy. It breaksdown rapidly from there. :P < 1319179956 251592 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a person who only eats pizza with no cheese on it. < 1319179966 178529 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's definitely not a requirement for being a pizza. < 1319180033 94724 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well pizza does have a very wide definition. < 1319180087 113341 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of the typical definitions of pizza eliminate the cheese and only a few eliminate tomato sauce ("white" pizzas) < 1319180097 987349 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :typical kinds of pizzas, rather. < 1319180101 111606 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not definitions. < 1319180126 527142 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that was confusing. Anyway, there are several "standard" no-cheese pizza flavours in Italy. < 1319180158 722328 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly I can't recall the names; they're not exactly widely available e.g. in Finland. < 1319180185 707075 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :white pizza is the best. < 1319180189 158400 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely my favorite. < 1319180237 807401 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "vegan pizza" would certainly have no cheese. < 1319180283 132418 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pizza Marinara is at least a no-cheese thing. < 1319180320 393280 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's very much a "standard" pizza. < 1319180451 126933 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's listed as one of the three official Neapolitan pizzas in the Wikipedia article; it seems that means one of the three mentioned in the EU trademark for "Pizza Napoletana". < 1319180473 383125 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"‘Pizza Napoletana’ TSG is round with a variable diameter not exceeding 35 cm and a raised rim and < 1319180473 530066 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is garnished and baked in the oven. The central part is 0,4 cm thick, with a tolerance of ± 10 %, and < 1319180473 530242 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rim is 1-2 cm thick. The overall pizza must be tender, elastic and easily foldable into four." < 1319180488 853354 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The ‘Pizza Napoletana’ is seasoned as follows: < 1319180489 179 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :— using a spoon, place 70 to 100 g of crushed, peeled tomatoes in the centre of the disc of dough, < 1319180489 289 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :— using a spiralling motion, spread the tomato over the whole central surface, < 1319180489 348 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :— using a spiralling motion, add the salt to the surface of the tomato, < 1319180489 403 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :— in the same manner, scatter a pinch of oregano on the surface, < 1319180489 353359 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :— chop a peeled clove of garlic into thin slices and place them on top of the tomato, < 1319180491 352681 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :— using an oil dispenser with a spout and a spiralling motion, distribute over the surface area, from < 1319180493 349955 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the centre outwards, 4-5 g of extra virgin olive oil, with a tolerance of + 20 %." < 1319180495 415023 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best trademark document. < 1319180516 52566 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't even specify the direction of the spiralling motion. :( < 1319180551 986202 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do believe the defining aspect of pizza is that it is flattened bread with toppings. < 1319180560 178378 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on which hemisphere you live in < 1319180590 82853 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :European food laws = the most ridiculous thing. < 1319180595 549702 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially in Italy. < 1319180614 958391 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Italian open pie made of thin bread dough spread with a spiced mixture of e.g. tomato sauce and cheese" --wordnet. < 1319180628 690235 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I can see benefits of having food laws and drawbacks. < 1319180642 978330 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pizza has largely become the amazing thing it is today thanks to American corruption. < 1319180651 716991 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A savoury dish of Italian origin, consisting of a flat, usually round base of dough, baked with a topping of tomatoes, cheese, and any of various other ingredients, such as meat, anchovies, or olives." --OED: so as a corollary, if it tastes bad, it's not a pizza? < 1319180662 333957 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: s/American/Italian/ < 1319180663 963282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could get a refund based on that. < 1319180670 962680 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The corruption was the doing of Italians in America. < 1319180712 13129 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, many Americans were, are, and come from European immigrants. < 1319180786 791125 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean is "it was literally done by first-generation Italian immigrants". < 1319180791 250982 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a downside to loose food regulation, American food companies can package almost any concoction with a few basic ingredients and call it something that it really shouldn't be called at that point. < 1319180840 28210 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coincidentally, fi:pissa = en:pee. < 1319180870 277271 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Actually, it's not quite that loose. < 1319180948 704124 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparatively it is, but yes there are regulations. < 1319180957 172530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wyngz < 1319180965 341295 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wyngz is actually a regulated term. < 1319181013 150202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1319181029 326227 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FSIS has a standard of identity in Title 9 of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Section 381.170(b)(7) that defines a poultry "wing." The use of the term "wing" cannot be used on any poultry product unless it complies with this standard of identity. In comparison, FSIS allows the use of the term "wyngz" to denote a product that is in the shape of a wing or a bite-size appetizer type product under the following conditions in which the Agency considers its u < 1319181029 472941 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :se fanciful and not misleading: [5 conditions]" < 1319181056 93130 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- the smallest letter in the descriptive name is no smaller than 1/3 the size of the largest letter used in "wyngz;" and --" < 1319181062 138309 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you call the pizza trademark silly. < 1319181082 674085 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. If anything, US food regulations are even more silly. < 1319181122 369623 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "ridiculous" in the sense that they're unecessarily strict, not silly. < 1319181131 781945 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are certainly better worded. < 1319181136 783566 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no mistaking what an Italian pizza is. < 1319181149 820688 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :American wings = ?????? < 1319181293 766725 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has to be an actual wing from a chicken. < 1319181297 862203 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what "wyngz" are is even more confusing. < 1319181308 161546 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wyngz are... Perverse. < 1319181336 850053 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if I create a solid block of macaroni and cheese in the shape of a wing, then that could be wyngz? < 1319181343 119934 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the Agency has to decide. < 1319181398 420992 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that in order to be "potato chips" it must be fried. < 1319181405 643593 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus why Pringles are "potato crisps" < 1319181434 748469 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Per their current definition of wyngz, it has to be white chicken meat in a bite-sized form... < 1319181448 790176 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :bite...sized? < 1319181469 946371 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1319181473 68956 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should sleep. < 1319181475 277622 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1319181490 400519 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it needs to be bite-sized: "in the shape of a wing *or* a bite-size appetizer type product" [emphasis mine]. < 1319181507 410842 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it does need to be white chicken. < 1319181513 353367 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, right. < 1319181515 86640 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1319181521 412245 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could have a giant wyngz. < 1319181537 628685 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I could make a wing-shaped product that is not capable of being eaten in a single mouthful. < 1319181551 960538 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a unicorn shaped product that is edible in one "bite" < 1319181554 902454 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know. < 1319181555 883389 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1319181674 323637 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Remember to submit your "wyngz" label to the Labeling and Program Delivery Division for sketch approval, because it is considered a special statement that cannot be generically approved. < 1319181691 174584 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1319181705 425624 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that apply for all names not regulated? < 1319181710 416172 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as wyngicorns? < 1319181723 446189 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... < 1319181728 458179 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :great cubicuboctahedrons? < 1319181731 681421 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The statement may only reference the term "wyngz" (no other misspellings are permitted)." < 1319181747 962425 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah so I'd need one of those subtext things. < 1319181753 114147 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :below my wyngicorns brand. < 1319181769 857483 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to be... considered wyngz < 1319181771 498797 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that is. < 1319181803 881890 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly "wyngicorn" is far-enough removed from "wing" that it doesn't need special handling? I don't know. < 1319181850 242226 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goal: chicken wyngicornz available in every bar. < 1319181926 558132 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it said I "may" name them wyngz but don't have to if they fit this definition. < 1319181944 632181 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's more like... a helpful suggestion. < 1319181960 280934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: but if it's too close to wings, you'll get dinge < 1319181960 679519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1319181965 999872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because wings is regulated < 1319181966 929623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like < 1319181969 871549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiingz < 1319181971 514536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is misleading < 1319181992 760161 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u88AOoYAOQE this is pretty much the best TAS < 1319181998 911617 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assure you that both wyngicorns and great cubicuboctahedrons will be nothing like wings. < 1319182022 956889 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's not a poultry product at all, though, there may be more latitude. I think you can have edible "cardboard wiingz" without problems. < 1319182032 184570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edible cardboard? < 1319182041 627709 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a matter of seasoning. < 1319182203 27653 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1319182285 178849 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's edible styrofoam. < 1319182312 446836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate styorofoamfs texture so much uuuurgh < 1319182336 776485 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though nothing on the internet seems to suggest there's such a thing. < 1319182357 208282 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe my childhood friend's mom was pranking me into eating styrofoam. < 1319182389 499834 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a mean adult. < 1319182424 230622 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no there's such a thing as "corn plastic" < 1319182485 508578 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maillard reaction: great reaction or greatest reaction? < 1319182487 327280 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss < 1319182547 323580 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1319182890 371562 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1319184172 18377 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319184173 230732 :SgeoN2!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319184271 656240 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1319184706 688417 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-33-19.resnet.ucsb.edu QUIT :Quit: bye < 1319184881 816485 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piet program spotted in the wild: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/the-rare-find-reinventing-recruiting-10132011.html (The whole puzzle thing is old, I guess, but didn't spot Piet in there.) < 1319184910 124899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1319185140 933228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> intercalate "?" (repeat "?") < 1319185141 782717 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????... < 1319185193 524154 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good porgram < 1319185203 718591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN2's < 1319185214 695300 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...whut < 1319185215 844115 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1319185356 167167 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why would anyone write that. < 1319185435 806115 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this were pure math and not Haskell, would it... oh, still countably infinite < 1319185480 755415 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid hotel story for kids has _still_ infected my mind and made me thing wrong thoughts < 1319185481 77266 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> intercalate "!" (repeat "?") < 1319185481 902582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!... < 1319185487 438950 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t repeat < 1319185488 286790 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. a -> [a] < 1319185492 716495 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t intercalate < 1319185493 591665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. [a] -> [[a]] -> [a] < 1319185501 213400 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: dude Facebook should totally hire me because I can recognize Piet programs. < 1319185510 279370 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> intercalate x . repeat < 1319185511 86435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. [a] -> [a] -> [a] < 1319185542 881427 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. How do you pass an [a] into a [[a]] < 1319185636 660177 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feces has always been associated with the lowest people among society, the social outcasts, the pariahs, the social discards. The Caste system in India was created along the lines of profession and the dalits or shudras (untouchables) were left to do work related to human emissions. They did such work as clean and pick feces from streets, clean toilets, work with dead bodies. Such practices are prevalent even today in th < 1319185643 597736 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how it says "shit" < 1319185652 697213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1319185668 754424 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feces#Social_Implications < 1319185674 694826 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. < 1319185697 778059 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: help what is that program for. < 1319185721 331034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i probablys hould have realiesd that page would contain pictures of feces < 1319185723 71646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :euuuuuurgh < 1319185757 280015 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's missing the "bear scat showing a diet of prime numbers" picture. < 1319185773 942987 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no human feces oddly enough < 1319185782 456923 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember at one point there was a picture of human shit. < 1319185785 269755 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a plat < 1319185786 408655 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1319185803 942949 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone shat on a plate and took a picture of it for Wikipedia. < 1319185826 392712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote It's missing the "bear scat showing a diet of prime numbers" picture. < 1319185832 508230 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :688) It's missing the "bear scat showing a diet of prime numbers" picture. < 1319185860 627480 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps someone shat on a plate and took a picture of it, and then later realized "oh, I can upload this to Wikipedia too, to do my part of the encyclopedia-making". < 1319185962 123613 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: Hotel story? < 1319185988 316886 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some rendition of Hilbert Hotel < 1319186017 553148 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ending had an infinite number of infinite-sized busses, and at the time, it seemed as though it was left ambiguous as to whether that was doable (countably infinite) < 1319186069 466809 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everyone_Poops < 1319186070 762472 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :best book. < 1319186091 224962 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :deserves a nobel prize in literature. < 1319186173 530640 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ccs3.lanl.gov/mega-math/workbk/infinity/inhotel.html < 1319187101 288968 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1319187947 33896 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: What's wrong with Hilbert's hotel? < 1319187949 737233 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works fine. < 1319187994 484890 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure you can enumerate an that. It's just (N,N) ~ Q < 1319188031 461919 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The part with the infinite people on infinite buses, I mistook what the story said wrt building catching on fire to mean that it wouldn't work < 1319188045 501366 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was quite some time ago < 1319188215 92051 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: still, I imagine there are plenty of good programmers who have never heard of Piet. < 1319188232 519559 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so missed an opportunity to solve the actual puzzle. < 1319188237 874932 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319188240 339346 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.189 QUIT :Changing host < 1319188240 486129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319188755 669078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319188906 303208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319190965 180298 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319190999 323664 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-63-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1319190999 798175 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-63-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1319190999 944865 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1319191026 362339 :Mynick!~Ident@175.138.25.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319191146 18814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319191189 453692 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d932d7fb.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319191345 312998 :Mynick!~Ident@175.138.25.220 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1319193026 68876 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1319193167 333907 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1319193502 213865 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1319193639 408915 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1319194175 16976 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1319197321 336039 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be slowly shaking away that "put a space after a trailing ?" habit: http://sprunge.us/cQhA < 1319197333 610433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1319197359 948838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so if i made a bot that just happened to ... < 1319197388 166379 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other people might find such a bot quite irritating. < 1319197404 696655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHEESH < 1319198302 897722 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ssy, does anyone know that thing that goes "da da da DA da da da"? I think it's not from Homestuck. < 1319198500 502505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katamari damacy\ < 1319198769 529254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319199375 613184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319199533 472138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319199671 872661 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1319200135 91186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: was i right < 1319200473 202659 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1319200499 510777 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1319201769 991755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey fizzie. < 1319202032 591489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie. fizzie. Get what you get to do. < 1319202218 689885 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not here and no-one's seen me. You must be talking to yourself. < 1319202274 267835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. fizzie: WHAT'S A GOOD REVERSE CONTEXT TREE FORMAT. < 1319202345 238037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm, actually I'm not sure I completely understand them. Does every single branch have "what comes next" information? < 1319202360 13810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Like, at the root of the tree is there "what comes next" information for every single word in the corpus? < 1319202370 391065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or is it for getting the first word?) < 1319202503 333388 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in a theoretical discussion, at the root of the tree, the "what comes next" list would be the corpus unigrams; correspondingly, at subnode /FOO/BAR, the "what comes next" list would be the list of last words of all trigrams that match "BAR FOO *". < 1319202520 202885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. So every single node has a what's next list. < 1319202535 460601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But, I suppose, in practice you omit the "what comes next" at the root of the tree? < 1319202614 299064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should still have an explicit start/end token. Except, wait, there's no actual way to extract those from n-gram data, is there? < 1319202640 370534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll have to take sentence terminator tokens as my first thing, and then just drop the first token generated. < 1319202736 867800 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure. I might not, just in case it has to back off to the zero-length context. (E.g. think of the case where it has generated "foo znurg", and [foo][znurg] was the only bigram (or any higher gram, obviously) containing the word 'znurg' that made the 40-count cutoffs. In that case, there will be no valid context, no /znurg node in the tree, and it has to create the next word from the unigrams.) < 1319202737 562051 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d932d7fb.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1319202794 575032 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explicit start/end tokens are typical, then you generate an initial context of "" when generating forward. But you're right that it's hard to get those from the Google data since they opted not to sentence-split their books. < 1319202799 753935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I suppose it can't do any harm. < 1319202810 505498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1319202810 652188 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1319202813 587674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I like this one < 1319202816 960290 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mr president, it is only natural that the european parliament' s opportunities to study and evaluate the work of the research activities from the beginning of the 1980s there were 10 million new jobs created between 1997 and 1999, it would seem to be wholly absolute. thus it is not a fight against those who had previously opposed any military intervention and interference. two years of work, strengthening social cohesio < 1319202849 305839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are there any advantages of just doing "Take the union of the what's-next lists at the nodes '.', '!', '?', ... and then pick a token from there as the first token"? < 1319202857 597826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I mean, it misses out e.g. the first sentences of books. < 1319202866 338497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it seems like a sentence terminator is a pretty good place to find the start of a sentence. < 1319202884 432833 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to suggest an initial context of "." or something, though of course there's quite a lot of .s that are not sentence terminators. < 1319202921 531548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, right. I mean, remember that the actual generation will look like "start with n-gram, work forwards until sentence terminator, work backwards until sentence start". < 1319202926 509087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beacuse of my double-tree thing. < 1319202966 135837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Something like "sentence terminator → capital letter" seems to be a pretty good judge of start-of-sentence. < 1319202974 648064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, obviously it won't be perfect. < 1319202994 858889 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not much more you can do than to treat the proper punctuation for sentence-termination, since for better sentence-splitting (to realize that "And the Mr J. Smith ate him." is not two sentences) you'd almost have to have the original sources. < 1319203018 415055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1319203026 482089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That, uh, is some sentence.) < 1319203096 378906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data RCT = Branch (Map String Int) (Map String RCT) < 1319203109 550207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where first map is word → occurs, and second descends down the tree. < 1319203110 497223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1319203116 617796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I wrong? Am I stupid? Am I bad? :( < 1319203150 399080 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the tokens are interned, that might be a (Map Int Int) and (Map Int RCT) or something. < 1319203162 847214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, yes, it's ~symbolic~; remember that I can't actually load these into RAM. < 1319203183 276533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: What's a good way to do a weighted random choice on (occurs,choice) sets that you don't want to load into memory? :p < 1319203196 869525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess the interning gives the advantage that each element of the set is constant-sized.) < 1319203207 717425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So if I ordered them by occurs, I could just pick skewed towards the end of the list?) < 1319203210 869722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except that's kind of naff. < 1319203212 678834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1319203215 87139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except, wait. < 1319203227 322674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no harm loading it into memory, because it'll never be larger than the unigrams. < 1319203238 591056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the unigrams are just going to be a few megabytes in total. Maybe ten. < 1319203242 984752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least so fizzie says. :p < 1319203315 548260 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can probably stand loading a single node. But if you want, you could store it on-disk as (sum of occurs, [(cumulative occurs, choice)]), then pick a uniformly distributed value from [0, sum of occurs) and find the smallest choice for which the cumulative value is larger by a binary search. < 1319203331 646193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds rather excruciatingly slow. < 1319203357 158883 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. For the most part, the nodes are likely to be quite small. < 1319203359 757532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if I'm talking to a mechanical disk over USB, loading a few megs of sequential data is so much better than doing a binary search seek over a few megs of sequential data it's not even funny. < 1319203542 933903 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the sentence start tokens, you can sort-of artificially add those by ignoring all ". a b c d" and "w x y z ." (unfiltered, those would be redundant; even filtered, you'll probably get a reasonable set of punctuation-in-the-middle grams) and then for each "z . a b c", "y z . a b", "x y z . a" add the corresponding "z . a" and so on only when a starts with a capital letter and z is not a single character (to remove "Mr J. Smith"). Possibly not wor < 1319203543 117258 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :th the hassle. < 1319203600 152442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How is that different to what I'd do at babble-time? < 1319203713 46672 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess you can do the same at that time. Just that you'd generate one past the potential sentence-separator token at the end, and one before the sentence-separator token at the start, so you can apply some guesswork there. < 1319203887 745695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1319203890 69844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I might do it. < 1319203892 443733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems rather... minor. < 1319204142 82092 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I also "invented" your double-tree idea the other day. I was thinking of just having a regular trie of n-grams, with the "next word" lists, and then went all "ooh, an idea; if you add a 'previous word' list too so that for 'a b c d' you put 'a' on that list for /b/c/d, then you can generate backwards too and share much of the structure". Took a moment to realize that is actually equivalent for a reverse-context style tree for going backwards + re < 1319204142 228879 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gular context tree for going forward, which is pretty much the same thing as doing reverse-context for forward prediction and regular-context for backward. < 1319204198 91134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yep. That's... what I said, yes. < 1319204219 670653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What does "pretty much" mean here? < 1319204221 907177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's literally identical. < 1319204283 511489 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1319204359 252797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless? < 1319204393 128912 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no, it's not literally identical; you end up with a differently shaped tree, for one thing. In the first option (reverse-context for backward, regular-context for forward) it's slightly simpler to go backward (with a context of "a b x", at /a/b/ if there is no x/ you're already at the right place) and less simple to go foward; vice-versa for the other option. < 1319204409 265433 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least when you are literally literal. < 1319204423 48587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, right. < 1319204429 309845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The way I did it made it easier to go forwards. < 1319204434 482018 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1319204434 628638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i.e. reverse-context for forwards. < 1319204436 999740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm not sure why. < 1319204440 108526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just... feels righter? < 1319204455 471741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly there's a certain elegance that you go the Normal Way to go forwards and flip things around to go back. < 1319204664 27313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I kind of want to use a reverse-context tree for both so it's more elegant, but AFAICT that would pretty much duplicate my space usage. < 1319204686 810788 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you start with the "let's use a reverse-context tree for babble-generation" concept and then start to think "how can I make some use of this thing also for predicting text backwards", it goes more naturally like the way you were going to do it. < 1319204694 251769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1319204698 468938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, can't I reduce < 1319204698 778535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data RCT = Branch [(String,Int)] (Map String RCT) < 1319204699 567642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :into < 1319204701 576894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1319204702 368232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1319204704 512790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't I reduce < 1319204708 230654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data RCT = Branch (Map String Int) (Map String RCT) < 1319204709 322965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :into < 1319204715 589666 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1319204716 80859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data RCT = Branch (Map String (Int,RCT)) | Nope < 1319204717 270410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1319204731 672741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there'll never be anything in the latter map without it being in the former map, no? < 1319204741 101351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, hmm, wait, it's a /reverse/ context tree, so that doesn't necessarily hold < 1319204744 49493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do I have it backwards. Help. < 1319204750 265185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I really mean < 1319204755 620137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data RCT = Branch (Map String (Int, Maybe RCT)) < 1319204769 25493 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319204936 680585 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess you could combine them; though there's the fact that for the most numerous nodes that are four level deep, there will always be just Nothing in the Maybe. I suppose it doesn't matter semantically, but physically it might save space to keep the lists separate. Because of the reversedness, I'm not sure how much they share. I mean, for the n-gram list (b a x) (b a y) (c a x) (c a y) you will end up with node /a that has subnodes /a/b and /a/c, and nex < 1319204936 827189 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :t-word list of (x, y). < 1319204953 12475 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I need to get going; it's the alt barty thing. < 1319204959 613091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1319206104 605443 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1319206175 912844 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319206185 628440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1319206187 274999 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1319206203 212872 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I don't think so. < 1319206460 78712 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319206470 103974 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1319206473 889093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1319206475 152250 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1319206564 567821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319206787 147569 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1319207764 107646 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1319207798 601932 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1319208026 47974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote You know what annoys me about Deep Space 9. It wasn't in deep space. It was orbiting Bajor. < 1319208028 251686 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :689) You know what annoys me about Deep Space 9. It wasn't in deep space. It was orbiting Bajor. < 1319208103 287256 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1319208695 663297 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6205.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319210110 812253 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1319210368 794610 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1319210975 613758 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Phantom_Hoover had an interesting observation there < 1319210991 311623 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I don't see the funny part of it < 1319211007 693025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said the qdb is just for jokes? < 1319211033 978282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that sort of interesting observation is what xkcd is full of nowadays < 1319211035 560955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1319211037 757606 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :579) The only happy dorf has a compassion stat of 0. Well, 20, but it amounts to the same. < 1319211045 841435 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you < 1319211063 159329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's better-paced than xkcd, though < 1319211076 601179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1319211077 131369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1319211077 666774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1319211078 161971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1319211079 20769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1319211080 846357 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :313) what does coffee do to biological neural networks what tiger blood does for charlie sheen < 1319211083 648125 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :407) You make a fist, shake it at the sky, and shout "why, GNU, why?!" -- that is the standard reportig practice. < 1319211085 124058 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :159) OK, so is conspiring to conspire to commit a crime a crime? Let's all get together and talk about defacing public property sometime < 1319211085 774647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually looked at very early xkcd; it isn't all that good < 1319211093 772945 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :250) [CTCP] Received CTCP-ERRMSG reply from clog: unknown CTCP: ERRMSG. < 1319211093 984094 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :58) Porn. There, see? < 1319211096 121344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very early xkcd isn't that good but it has charm < 1319211098 376593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the famous sudo make me a sandwich comic is pretty much the first good one, and even it's debatable < 1319211105 922644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sweet spot is like < 1319211110 75262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fifty in to three hundred fifty in < 1319211111 556078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 313 < 1319211113 749213 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* < 1319211120 428199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: agreed, I hadn't read that one yet < 1319211124 182069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when I did it was obviously worst < 1319211155 563029 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :123 is still my favourite. < 1319211163 563992 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 313 < 1319211165 717199 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :313) Phantom_Hoover: if the list is in random order, like poor ehird here < 1319211177 278619 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 500 < 1319211179 283991 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :500) rest in peace lambdabot???? monqy: it'll probably be back later nap in peace < 1319211181 428188 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worst quote becomes best quote. < 1319211189 449023 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1000 < 1319211191 476756 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1319211197 712249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /love/ 313 < 1319211199 2962 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, everyone, say lots of witty things. < 1319211202 636034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 123 < 1319211204 753286 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :123) alise: why internet is like wtf < 1319211216 880870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that one? < 1319211224 229565 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1319211226 135804 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom < 1319211226 857239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fungot < 1319211227 515165 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: since the start of the construction of a european vision, tools that are in favour of the new proposal on feed hygiene at the earliest possible opportunity and also turning to the most economically advanced countries of the union. < 1319211229 170392 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :12) GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 16) Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. \ 19) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing < 1319211238 245889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes fungot < 1319211238 854962 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mr president, may i confirm the position which was not discussed, and if not, are covered by qualified majority in order for these slight growth rates to be reduced in the same vein, it would be misleading and cannot therefore be accepted. < 1319211240 436081 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31357 < 1319211242 532187 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or we could just spam fungot so that he says every quotable thing there is. < 1319211243 609236 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: very briefly, ladies and gentlemen, that in order to improve their knowledge and professional skills as well as, of course and i too found it astonishing, that there are amendments nos 12, 13 and 19 propose the continuation of equality between men and women are part of our negotiating mandate for the future of homeopathic medicine. < 1319211251 61128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1319211251 235845 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl* ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1319211257 298876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... `run sort < quotes > q && mv q quotes < 1319211258 36297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO SET IT TO EUROPARL < 1319211261 931131 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style homestuck < 1319211262 77657 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: homestuck (Homestuck pages 1901-4673) < 1319211263 82047 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess that would be a bad idea < 1319211270 705123 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so what's this, then? < 1319211270 946450 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: to the left is that house shape you've seen everything! < 1319211280 270101 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that wasn't quite as awesome as I was hoping. < 1319211280 469196 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: so the dumbest and most far fetched but whatever. < 1319211290 459032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, it's produced some gems. < 1319211293 808404 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote pumpkin < 1319211295 961938 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :437) The wickedest man of all. Surpassed only in wickedness by the wicked witches of the west and east. you talking about me again? Yes. k \ 532) Phantom_Hoover: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? < 1319211296 177426 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yeah, I can't even tell who's supposed to be talking or anything. Those sentences are way too short. < 1319211296 708307 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: a place perhaps it is the human riddle that is truly the ultimate riddle. now it is my turn to the back inside cover, but it seems the john in the head of your smaller hammer from your deck is really dwindling now. maybe this game you are about to play < 1319211312 778001 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :532 is also good for annoying copumpkin. < 1319211313 348710 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: there, much better. < 1319211316 976246 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot < 1319211317 161623 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) < 1319211322 620435 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hi < 1319211322 786774 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia the xxxiii. i really enjoyed such powers... now it's nick!userhost-limited to me, and ile not wish thee more < 1319211323 571840 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric : o.O < 1319211337 349222 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metafungot. < 1319211337 495975 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's just so stupid that ' stty erase h' has. you came through, which is more fnord than they just never put things into < 1319211339 941327 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :mix of ct and irc? < 1319211341 587026 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1319211361 379444 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, right < 1319211361 526346 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1319211368 300216 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, indeed < 1319211368 485537 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: uninterned symbols, pairs, procedures, and so am i just being anal here or am i misunderstanding how these were the people skills of a plane < 1319211386 870635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why doesn't this cycle on this sword alone? < 1319211387 164987 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1319211387 365166 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1319211393 223158 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it might? < 1319211401 915878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, can this sword alone stop? < 1319211402 62821 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1319211405 517174 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :just we haven't hit it yet < 1319211424 807845 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it just spit out a style listing from the fungot style? < 1319211424 954645 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i know i didn't know that you've already asked, but then i need to enter " qemu" to edit is the ordinary ( for call/ cc))) hangs < 1319211425 466781 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1319211434 366713 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how often do you update the fungot style? < 1319211434 532976 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's just so stupid that ' stty erase h' has to be all " pow!" and he was suddenly i rose, put up her mouth, pulled down by the gold saucer... think his name was close ever, and yet, at least, that is expressions which have not been able, to assume responsibilities. he went on, " the conclusion is, then thou, the greatest soldier, de. she wanna be friends, his state vsurp'd, his realme a slaughter-house, his subjects, t < 1319211457 30493 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I guess you could get some boring feedback loops that way < 1319211459 978910 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, as often as the rest of the styles, I assume. < 1319211472 250597 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't, really. Unless someone tells me to. < 1319211478 312261 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there is no obvious reason to update styles that don't change. Like ct or ic < 1319211503 683972 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is it possible for fungot style to enter the sword cycle? < 1319211503 830625 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp < 1319211532 404725 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc you had some perl script to check such < 1319211544 716134 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Probably, though I haven't checked. < 1319211597 631526 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1319211597 817090 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl* ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1319211610 186815 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :who switched? < 1319211615 197422 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1319211627 416308 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1319211627 562988 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1319211628 900827 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why in /msg instead of in channel < 1319211642 637219 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make it a Sekret. < 1319211649 347125 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ./testlm-disk.pl data/tokens.bin.fungot data/model.bin.fungot 1 sword alone < 1319211649 493968 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop, crono! crono...! there it is! but by the time we're through with you, you'll be in danger that a major debate will be held in new york is a very important relevant for this page? tried toggling hardware/ software flow control on and off, etc < 1319211650 947500 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: bushie. more welcome is the stroake of death to gaze vpon these secrets of the state, and vsurpe the beggerie hee was neuer borne to: lord angelo is seuere law: i had as liue haue a reede that will doe me no seruice, as a cat laps milke, they'l tell the clocke, and in your anger, did i not by fnord of your old-fac'd walles, can hide you from our court < 1319211651 272501 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, who is switching style outside of the channel? Can't you see from the logs of it? < 1319211679 292352 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've kind of implied who switched it. < 1319211687 144004 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you < 1319211699 375567 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't log. < 1319211718 192438 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can only see last screenful. < 1319211737 459648 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, and the screen backscroll buffer. < 1319212008 376572 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1319212200 417448 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_grand_stellated_120-cell < 1319212306 388662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can stick that in your great cubicuboctahedron and smoke it, CakeProphet. < 1319212321 389078 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-23.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1319212605 328892 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → crappier part of Ireland.
< 1319212607 207745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1319212855 408200 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The non-Internetted parts, it seems. < 1319212995 661346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319213596 24389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, I think I need a: zipper. < 1319213633 738390 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319213643 218330 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1319213655 338950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Ngevd. < 1319213700 571051 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah < 1319213725 329241 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IWC is in the eighth day of its guest week < 1319213740 882530 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Andrew Hussie is at 96% of the 25/10 update < 1319213751 244163 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And someone said hi to me! < 1319213770 888878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd believes that he is loved for a single, sweet moment. < 1319213996 705466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> inits [0,9,9] < 1319213997 577822 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[0],[0,9],[0,9,9]] < 1319214009 107142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> inits [] < 1319214009 938440 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[]] < 1319214017 708987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1319214206 794283 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319214382 259101 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebus. Median pay in the US is $26k. < 1319214413 93525 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::? < 1319214420 997945 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mean? < 1319214428 153071 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mean is $38k. < 1319214432 885277 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :::::? < 1319214449 337333 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The... interquartile range? < 1319214452 940238 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1319214727 267132 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The... geometric mean? < 1319215194 945632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1319215207 183528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an efficient way to do < 1319215210 573909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :map reverse (inits xs) < 1319215213 467974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/but/ < 1319215218 102824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of xs you can also use xs' < 1319215219 774106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which == reverse xs < 1319215232 916900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with no computational cost0 < 1319215233 750028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1319215240 653084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> tails [9,9,0] < 1319215241 612316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[9,9,0],[9,0],[0],[]] < 1319215248 157000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reverse (tails [9,9,0]) < 1319215248 985430 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[0],[9,0],[9,9,0]] < 1319215252 588939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map reverse (inits [0,9,9]) < 1319215253 536236 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[0],[9,0],[9,9,0]] < 1319215261 639130 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations! < 1319215268 820916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not "efficient" :P < 1319215285 994366 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :tails is pretty efficient < 1319215289 287776 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you care about the reverse? < 1319215304 637417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : what's an efficient way to do < 1319215304 784012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : map reverse (inits xs) < 1319215304 930771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : /but/ < 1319215304 930858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : instead of xs you can also use xs' < 1319215304 930903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : which == reverse xs < 1319215305 622188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (with no computational cost0 < 1319215307 638134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ) < 1319215309 715586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1319215319 390263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse (tails xs') < 1319215323 356537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and map reverse (inits xs) < 1319215324 651446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :both work < 1319215328 745432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but preferably something without reverse at all < 1319215333 538051 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1319215336 994464 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1319215348 427813 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the order it produces results in < 1319215348 731633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1319215353 204724 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd need to look at the end of the list < 1319215363 141531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: this is actually a trick question, my list is a literal and has five elements < 1319215367 854552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll just write out the result manually < 1319215370 58686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION graph reducer
< 1319215371 136647 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1319215372 444225 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1319215450 149420 :nooga!~nooga@87-205-71-203.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1319215841 643425 :nooga!~nooga@87-205-71-203.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1319215875 519758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Wait, I've gone dumb suddenly. < 1319215898 792035 :nooga!~nooga@87-205-71-203.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1319215922 693220 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure the proper verb is "gone"? (Sorry.) < 1319215939 11486 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm at this thing, I'm not really here. < 1319215954 924763 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be "became" < 1319215968 407994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes but but but but but < 1319216080 383929 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Butane. < 1319216116 919536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Surely a context tree would be better than a reverse context tree for babbling, as you'd just descend a node whenever you appended to the output? < 1319216227 984739 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nnnnno, because the tree only goes five levels deep. Though you could, I suppose, theoretically have some sort of a loopy graph. < 1319216268 571862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, hmm, right. How does it being reversed actually help at all, then? < 1319216303 598852 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point of the reverse context thing is that when you have a context of "... a b c d e", you don't need to know how long a context you can actually find in your model. You just start with /e, and then descend to /e/d, and to /e/d/c, and then stop if you can't find new subnodes. < 1319216333 621123 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas with a trie you'd first try to find /b/c/d/e; but if that doesn't exist, you'd have a new search for /c/d/e; and then /d/e; and /e; and finally /. < 1319216353 521434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm, right. < 1319216379 628949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm still rather sceptical of how much use anything but the full thing will get since I'm not crunching the model at all :-) < 1319216421 718205 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319216442 886624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi pagnol < 1319216443 977233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1319216445 860561 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1319216457 261358 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1319216461 475623 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make some statistics when you're babbling. It'll be a nonzero amount in any case with the filtered 'grams. (Might be nonzero with the "complete" model too, but I can't be bothered to think through that right now.) < 1319216481 728049 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the reverse-tree is nicely usable with variable-length 'grams, you don't have to start looking with a max(length(grams))-1 of context. < 1319216502 660355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Right. < 1319216509 858119 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm browsing the list of languages and wondering which one to learn (or attempt to do so) < 1319216517 598639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload < 1319216519 788349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1319216535 896264 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload is good yes < 1319216537 961620 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:aSS):aSS < 1319216538 108533 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:aSS):aSS < 1319216542 802701 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quinest thing. < 1319216544 871363 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :&simple < 1319216569 963073 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and appears to be well-documented, I appreciate that < 1319216572 731000 :nooga!~nooga@87-205-71-203.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1319216573 265380 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the simplicity helps it be good (simple is good (do not think otherwise (that would be a mistake (many people have made this mistake (dont < 1319216580 473585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(im not going to close these (suffer < 1319216624 343328 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, < 1319216624 574556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :))))))) < 1319216625 725819 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (aS(:^)S):^ < 1319216625 872727 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aS(:^)S):^ < 1319216638 8826 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Accidentally a dirty word earlier.) < 1319216643 447233 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aSS < 1319217049 869918 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so great about Underload? < 1319217062 695308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice < 1319217073 446753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quite functional < 1319217077 451998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you do loops by quining, in a sense < 1319217090 593231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet it still allows for pretty short, elegant programs < 1319217209 754052 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1319217238 625390 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know of a language that draws on logic, though in an unusual fashion, perhaps? like Prolog but esoteric < 1319217255 967924 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Astronauts Michael Collins, Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong had to go through US Customs to come back from the moon." < 1319217265 621072 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1319217272 448615 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that. < 1319217301 477381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: No, they didn't. < 1319217304 595320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They filled in the forms for a laugh. < 1319217312 64524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The forms are real but not required.) < 1319217323 436492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pagnol: ask ais523 about Proud :-P < 1319217328 737647 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just quotin' :P < 1319217350 119565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pagnol: Proud isn't really practical, unfortunately; it allows doing things like quantifying over functions, etc < 1319217358 918065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically just "Prolog with no restrictions, even if they're really necessary" < 1319217374 555571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, using nondeterminism in the NFA sense, rather than backtracking < 1319217380 325047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't worked out the details < 1319217433 569518 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needn't be practical < 1319217449 120856 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no entry in the list ... < 1319217625 89838 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-23.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: take carezz < 1319218083 229913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is function quantification? < 1319218193 875909 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1319218345 189736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: basically, describing a function in terms of contraints < 1319218352 626845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and having the program iterate over /all functions/ to find the one you want < 1319218363 575720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proud doesn't really have the details worked out, which is why it isn't online < 1319218433 751293 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6205.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1319218456 244164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319218490 917367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319219310 822312 :ive!~nn@189.254.119.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319219446 792898 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1319219604 944158 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319219675 385976 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1319219900 942689 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does there exist a Haskell indent? < 1319219908 927096 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1319219913 595802 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1319219947 509059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes, it's called emacs; you can also do something with haskell-src-extras (it retains comments) if you really want < 1319219954 24297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6870148/is-there-a-haskell-code-formatter http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/j31f4/is_there_a_haskell_code_formatter/ for more info < 1319220457 46180 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone partake in the ai-class.com? < 1319220945 849304 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently not < 1319221015 909226 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just managed to type "Twitter" instead of "IRC" < 1319221818 729279 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have trying to make logic stuff in Haskell, and have come up with the contrapositive rule and double negation rule being: doubleNot = flip id; contrapositive = flip (.); < 1319221952 380896 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it correctly? < 1319222113 803249 :ive!~nn@189.254.119.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1319222699 100806 :ive!~nn@189.254.119.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319223485 730094 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011 is proving a good year for Taneb-made esoteric programming languages < 1319223769 194204 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, 2011 is proving to be the only year for Taneb-made esoteric programming languages < 1319224312 909283 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's Taneb? < 1319224320 239460 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me < 1319224323 738157 :Ngevd!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 NICK :Taneb < 1319224324 837885 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See < 1319224933 229266 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creator of Nandypants, Numberwang, MIBBLLII, Luigi, Brook, and Constantinople < 1319224968 910552 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-21-30.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319224973 365851 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have implemented Constantinople, although I did not invent Constantinople. But I did make a suggestion for Constantinople because there was something wrong with it. < 1319224984 661924 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I am thankful for < 1319225038 274246 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You are thankful for there being something wrong with it? < 1319225052 237820 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the suggestion and the implementation < 1319225123 303110 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the implementation I made is not perfect because it does not do bitwise I/O. Later I might fix that, or someone else might fix that. (Would you expect it to work perfectly even though it is the first program I wrote in Haskell?) < 1319225140 572739 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would not < 1319225152 925074 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am glad someone made it < 1319225165 795817 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1319225179 881346 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, that compiler made me happy < 1319225182 370179 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks :) < 1319225482 221582 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two esolangs that I did not make but that I did make the first public implementation. How many is it the case that in general, the first public implementation was written by someone other than whoever invented that esolang? < 1319225497 211878 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd imagine a large number < 1319225640 986301 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to make a class in Haskell for making classical logic. < 1319225668 22401 :SgeoN2!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319225670 313017 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Zero; type Not x = x -> Zero; class Classical x where { contradiction :: Zero -> x; lem :: Either x (Not x); }; < 1319225686 811586 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319225686 958090 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Classical Zero where { contradiction = id; lem = Right id; }; < 1319225701 996467 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Classical () where { contradiction = const (); lem = Left (); }; < 1319225716 148390 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Classical x => Classical (Not x) where { contradiction = const; lem = either (Right . doubleNot) Left lem; }; < 1319225730 471531 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this correct? Is there some mistake? < 1319225748 755523 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough of classical logic to tell you, I'm afraid < 1319226080 894409 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTA IV has a most amusing glitch. If you slowly back up against a swing your vehicle will be flung into the air with tremendous speed. Often making you fly right *over* a skyscraper and landing you several hundred meters away. < 1319226099 66858 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He < 1319226099 689091 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Sounds very Stunts-y. < 1319226100 108519 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1319226109 547310 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, was that a pun? < 1319226126 686375 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not that I know of. < 1319226174 337857 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Stunts" game had quite a few "fly up to the ceiling of the sky" glitches. < 1319226232 791919 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, sometimes it just throw you a few meters up in the air. Not very predictable < 1319226251 80928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That works in real life too. < 1319226264 192116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you disagree, I question whether you've ever tried. < 1319226280 11981 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1319226283 210173 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that sounds almost like religion < 1319226312 483349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes, but I don't see Christians flying over skyscrapers like total badasses, do you? < 1319226344 477877 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sikhs do < 1319226384 972582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1319226526 253027 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you jump a car from a ramp and hit the wall of a building, in midair, you tend to get ejected up and fly to the sky-ceiling, then slowly slide at that height to one corner of the world; then you land, make a complicated spinning-around thing for a while, and then explode. < 1319226536 810990 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also probably works in real life? < 1319226543 422471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I do that a lot. < 1319226621 237220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote If you jump a car from a ramp and hit the wall of a building, in midair, you tend to get ejected up and fly to the sky-ceiling, then slowly slide at that height to one corner of the world; then you land, make a complicated spinning-around thing for a while, and then explode. Also probably works in real life? < 1319226623 444593 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :689) If you jump a car from a ramp and hit the wall of a building, in midair, you tend to get ejected up and fly to the sky-ceiling, then slowly slide at that height to one corner of the world; then you land, make a complicated spinning-around thing for a while, and then explode. Also probably works in real life? < 1319226929 893615 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is that in GTA IV too? < 1319227253 445043 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it severely deforms the car on launch < 1319227328 274056 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example I drove a "Patriot" (basically the game's rendition of a Hummer) that I flew like this. It ended up deformed enough that the roof intersected with the driver's head. No ill effects noticed. Still fully drivable. < 1319227353 351086 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, elliott ^ < 1319227353 615834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : also it severely deforms the car on launch <-- relativistically correct, hm? < 1319227397 960338 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I implemented double negation elimination by: undoubleNot :: Classical p => Not (Not p) -> p; undoubleNot x = either id (explosion . flip (,) x) lem; < 1319227410 556585 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no, as in the metal being really bent < 1319227417 882949 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it correct? < 1319227431 647075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to tell < 1319227454 395456 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that the scenario is so unrealistic < 1319227471 920839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1319227547 147544 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1319227555 248699 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319227621 981196 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38. < 1319227636 879314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: your contradiction shouldn't need to be a method, it's intuitionistically correct < 1319227637 137550 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :undoubleNot :: Classical p => Not (Not p) -> p; undoubleNot (Not (Not p)) = p < 1319227648 117918 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't do that? < 1319227668 895738 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: There is no constructor "Not" < 1319227687 191146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t case ?z of {} -> ?x < 1319227688 32404 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `}' < 1319227706 503566 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes I found that on Wikipedia < 1319227714 70757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except haskell doesn't support empty case < 1319227759 357348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319227794 214843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319228142 765100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can't you write undoubleNot x = either id (contradiction . ($ x)) lem ? < 1319228202 332276 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seem to be wrong type < 1319228297 55641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait duh < 1319228331 167517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :make that undoubleNot x = either id (contradiction . x) lem ? < 1319228429 227820 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK that appears to work. < 1319228430 227920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then is explosion (y,x) = contradiction (x y) < 1319228440 472123 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. < 1319228525 106235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks good, then < 1319228534 841052 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it works now. < 1319229541 634382 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319230618 246401 :nooga!~nooga@87-205-71-203.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1319230890 984918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1319230957 65412 :nooga!~nooga@87-205-71-203.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1319231308 716610 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1319231314 643092 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1319231439 120955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319231536 190899 :tiffnya!~kawaii@fl-76-3-17-113.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319231588 669489 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1319231601 560896 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-21-30.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1319231603 447677 :tiffnya!~kawaii@fl-76-3-17-113.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :tiffany < 1319231645 197197 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1319231739 166585 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@121-74-65-236.telstraclear.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319231742 442740 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@121-74-65-236.telstraclear.net QUIT :Changing host < 1319231742 589564 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1319232560 959000 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319232588 551173 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5 < 1319232895 808349 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, it was from Stunts. < 1319233121 906630 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1319233288 936719 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1319233471 290854 :ive!~nn@189.254.119.170 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1319233772 963995 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319233858 12562 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Stunts being? < 1319233866 109817 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from a feature of some movies < 1319233870 573666 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1319233950 966274 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : The "Stunts" game had quite a few "fly up to the ceiling of the sky" glitches. < 1319233954 494633 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, a game. < 1319233961 713769 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1319233975 671970 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stunts (also known as 4D Sports Driving) is an early 3D racing video game developed by Distinctive Software, Inc.. The game places emphasis on racing on stunt tracks and features a track editor, it is clearly influenced by the earlier arcade game Hard Drivin' and has many similar elements to the game Stunt Driver which was released around the same time." < 1319233983 616848 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :From 1990; MS-DOS and Amiga. < 1319233986 782200 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1319233996 653601 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D back then? < 1319234006 396699 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1319234013 661687 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several polygons at the same time. < 1319234045 728527 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ibiblio.org/GameBytes/issue20/misc/stunts1.gif < 1319234048 524175 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like that. < 1319234053 809017 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Severely limited by graphics memory bandwidth on PCs that time. < 1319234065 772893 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even transparency. (By stippling, but still.) < 1319234074 716477 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ended up playing it in CGA mode on a 386 with an 8-bit VGA board. < 1319234108 315484 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :danieldanieldani < 1319234122 577452 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ibiblio.org/GameBytes/issue20/misc/stunts.html "There's nothing extremely exciting about that, except the amazing things that can happen as you crash! Do not be surprised if you find your car soaring _hundreds_ of meters above the ground! Sometimes before a crash, sometimes after, but don't ever expect to survive such a fall! And there is nothing like going vertical in a F1 racing car to add some thrill to you spill! It's all part of the fun. " < 1319234131 862020 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, with the right hardware VGA mode was playable (read: 0-WS, 16-bit ET4000 based VGA card) < 1319234132 353477 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The physics bugs were among the best things in it. < 1319234146 430793 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a Tseng Labs ET-something card. < 1319234150 59777 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1319234179 770418 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :posix.c:9:31: fatal error: readline/readline.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. < 1319234194 293053 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt-get install libreadline-dev ? < 1319234206 483921 :danieldanieldani!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1319234218 964338 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very good at this < 1319234253 911522 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: If your system is debian-based, try the command I quoted (as root, on Ubuntu, prefix with sudo) to fix the problem. < 1319234263 675005 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, Stunts also recorded replays, so you could save the most ludicrous crashes. < 1319234290 259417 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problems solved, 2/3 < 1319234325 65819 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there was a workaround for the feature that if you continued from not-the-end of a reply you can't get a high score (i.e. rollback after a crash is deemed as cheating) < 1319234335 447492 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, awesome < 1319234350 859341 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was saving to different replay files in regular intervals. < 1319234365 980648 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you could contine at the end of the "last known good" file. < 1319234377 180403 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1319234506 257571 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, http://images.wikia.com/gtawiki/images/c/c8/DF8toobad00.jpg < 1319234516 288967 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, green arrow points at launch point < 1319234582 385732 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.wikia.com/gtawiki/images/f/f1/Swing_glitch_%28GTA4%29_%28catapult%29.jpg [[ A glitched swing in action, moments after hurling the player and their car into the air. Notice the "agitated" leg of the swing slamming on the ground and cracking it, illustrating the tremendous force it possesses. ]] < 1319234604 284917 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I noticed the ground breaking around them constantly < 1319234632 915378 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rrrealism. < 1319234661 190697 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the law of energy conservation has obviously deemed invalid by the high court... < 1319234672 69200 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1319234781 7449 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used the built in cheats (accessed by dialling a number on the in game cell phone) to spawn a Jetamax (speed boat) on top of one next to a skyscraper. It flew almost straight up until I lost sight of it. Half a minute later it landed on top of the skyscraper. Sadly I did not manager to enter the boat in time to watch this from first person view. > 1319234925 125019 JOIN :#esoteric > 1319234970 987911 JOIN :#esoteric > 1319235014 993507 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319235015 66361 :glogbot!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1319235015 284492 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1319235018 76484 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why the car doesn't explode in that video after the jump. < 1319235018 381415 :pagnol!pagnol@141.30.241.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319235030 44222 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually it did... < 1319235087 260929 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to my experience, you should not even survive at 0:55 < 1319235088 505267 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMAnnj25Kfg <- that's slightly more what I remember. < 1319235099 712610 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1319235099 785054 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.106.27.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319235099 785179 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1319235099 785256 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319235102 429706 :cheater!~cheater@ip-2-200-116-1.web.vodafone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1319235116 574768 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1319235122 214355 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319235150 522773 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1319235159 685937 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh. He actually survived that? In the first video < 1319235172 536068 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. I mostly recall things exploding. < 1319235222 224657 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, the second video looks quite familiar to me. Although I usually cancelled instead of watching 2 minutes of flight. < 1319235279 814175 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was no explosion in it < 1319235323 423767 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second wasn't all that high though, it didn't even hit the ceiling. < 1319235413 279138 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1319235434 908315 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :another fun thing in GTA IV. In star junction (in the first unlockable area), if you fire a rocket launcher at a specific place synced with the traffic light pattern you can get a serial explosion that takes ages to stop because new cars keep arriving just in time to get blown up < 1319235436 880156 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 5-10 minutes of watching explosions before it dies out < 1319235527 496743 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYlKFtu7RNY if you want to see the boom in Stunts. < 1319235542 771767 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would I not? :D < 1319235550 882760 :Taneb!~Taneb@2.99.90.255 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1319235580 606770 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very impressive explosion < 1319235780 63903 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's good since it's made for computers weaker than pentium 1" (YouTube) < 1319235792 73348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = cos x in x :: CReal -- i wonder if this works... < 1319235795 775554 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1319235803 574577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1319235883 604624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = 1 + 1/x in x :: CReal -- i wonder if this works... < 1319235887 389390 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1319235991 358668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle CReal < 1319235991 531316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1319235995 121289 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did I miss some news that Haskell now contains a numeric fix-point solver? < 1319236025 710172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but if you could only get it _started_, wouldn't laziness take care of the rest. < 1319236043 53601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just not sure how to get it started. < 1319236115 237960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit google removed the + prefix < 1319236141 657022 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :double-quote terms to force them to be included as-is. < 1319236176 900572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it said at much. except i'm _sure_ that failed once recently for a multi-word phrase, so i had to use +"..." < 1319236182 310994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*as much < 1319236259 270565 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised by google staring to interpret 'bad-luck' not as strict as '"bad luck"' (single quotes for demonstration only, double quotes as entered) < 1319236276 434512 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use the hyphen as shorcut for multi-word searches. < 1319236282 452202 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which worked till around 2006 < 1319236283 408251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1319236296 584280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1319236305 347983 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe you should try ""thing with multiple words"" next. < 1319236348 112103 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : dammit google removed the + prefix <-- they what... < 1319236355 397863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1319236359 365340 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why?! < 1319236373 363599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because google is evil, obviously. < 1319236379 628408 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, use DDG < 1319236392 786443 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, elliott recommended it to me. < 1319236394 44858 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://duckduckgo.com/ < 1319236408 355145 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :When google started in the late 90s, one of their big advantages was you don't have to use plus on all the terms to get relevant results... < 1319236425 246417 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you won't even need + in the first place most of the time with it < 1319236582 928360 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle [x] -> [(x,x)] < 1319236583 62087 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test.QuickCheck two :: Monad m => m a -> m (a, a) < 1319236583 355490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude zip :: [a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)] < 1319236583 427954 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List zip :: [a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)] < 1319236619 660577 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was looking for \x -> zip x (tail x)
< 1319236632 92141 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-105.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319236636 671710 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?quote aztec < 1319236636 892112 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quicksilver says: zip`ap`tail - the Aztec god of consecutive numbers < 1319236650 420572 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-208-48.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1319236707 151258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = cos x `max` 0.6 `min` 0.8 in x :: CReal -- lessee... < 1319236710 797711 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1319236713 108648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1319236743 617610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = cos x `max` 0.7 `min` 0.8 in x < 1319236747 209881 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1319236788 482975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1319236828 456833 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let findfp f s = fst $ head $ dropWhile (uncurry (/=)) $ (\x -> zip x $ tail x) $ iterate f s in (\x -> 1+1/x) `findfp` 1 < 1319236829 213419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.618033988749895 < 1319236842 405106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice11: good old zip`ap`tail < 1319237102 645036 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nice. That's in the reader monad, if I understand it correctly... < 1319237112 460420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1319237294 301625 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1319237305 598478 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1319237328 878497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell putStrLn "I'm feeling better." < 1319237335 775382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. < 1319237346 545099 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t zip`ap`tail < 1319237348 42205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall b. [b] -> [(b, b)] < 1319237357 387611 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1319237375 892101 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1319237377 498117 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ap < 1319237378 692040 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (m :: * -> *) a b. (Monad m) => m (a -> b) -> m a -> m b < 1319237382 636067 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, that one < 1319237391 834058 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't in Prelude is it? < 1319237397 222464 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad < 1319237399 992684 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1319237406 785754 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ghci < 1319237406 974185 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHCi, version 6.12.1: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/ :? for help < 1319237414 156597 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing elliott isn't here < 1319237423 976756 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had to look for it, first suspected it in Control.Applicative. < 1319237445 28662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative and Monad are still not unified. < 1319237464 697362 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad.ap = (Control.Applicative.<*>) < 1319237475 863587 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For reasonable Monad/Applicative instances) < 1319237481 541638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am somewhat worried about this upcoming syntax i see thrown around which puts superclass defaults for a subclass _in the superclass_ < 1319237508 845598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems the wrong way to do it for making things extensible < 1319237518 927491 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1319237557 574044 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and Num is still unified (several times I wanted, say (+) or (*) without implementing signum or abs) < 1319237571 622774 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read in LYAH that Monad is now a subclass of Applicative, but ghc 7.0.4 doesn't seem to know it... < 1319237592 60077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice11: alas, only in spirit < 1319237592 132598 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you want (*) and (+) and (-) on Vectors. But abs is completely different for a vector. It is the length of it < 1319237611 474146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (*) doesn't even have the right type for Vectors. < 1319237623 574698 :twice11!~twice11@lenny32.physik.fu-berlin.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want * between vectors, or do you mean scalar or vector product? < 1319237623 788044 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well for the cross product maybe? < 1319237634 100702 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, not for scalar < 1319237647 189096 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, point is, Num contains too much < 1319237649 371506 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319237654 730106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cross product only works for a few dimensions :/ < 1319237661 370955 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, there is that too < 1319237685 888634 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I never understood why it only work for certain dimensionalities < 1319237744 190377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because the cross product is in _spirit_ not from vectors to vectors, but from vectors to antisymmetric 2-forms < 1319237754 672749 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1319237758 477608 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1319237770 569249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only for a few dimensions is there a nice embedding from 2-forms to vectors < 1319237800 613190 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what is a 2-form? < 1319237805 537880 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never heard the word before < 1319237818 717215 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-59.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319237834 41668 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-105.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1319237843 231219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_form < 1319237899 346437 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that < 1319237904 619673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_form#Wedge_product is iirc the generalization of cross product < 1319237912 613363 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, so integrals tie into vectors? How weird < 1319237937 52009 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algebra and analysis seem so different on the surface, yet they are deeply connected. < 1319237939 154162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to integrate over multidimensional spaces, they do < 1319237985 782077 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I have a course in doing that atm < 1319238034 3491 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is quite complicated sometimes < 1319238117 605677 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319238180 867221 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, night < 1319238190 252644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1319238497 222223 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319238497 773530 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1319238506 941979 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1319238864 514445 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1319240254 510377 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db41480.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric