< 1319933432 687546 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1319933762 494122 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: You are now graced with my absence. < 1319933897 327789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:15 elliott> one of the two steps from hell guys < 1319933897 463000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:16 elliott> oerjan: is from trondheim < 1319933912 105187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hell _is_ only a half hour drive from trondheim. < 1319934438 532802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:15:33 +0100 < 1319934438 665658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To: elliott < 1319934438 737849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 < 1319934438 737934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIME-Version: 1.0 < 1319934438 738030 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii < 1319934438 976590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit < 1319934441 58781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subject: editor saved ``.git/COMMIT_EDITMSG'' < 1319934443 77097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were editing the file ".git/COMMIT_EDITMSG" < 1319934445 148495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at on the machine ``dinky'' < 1319934447 172250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the editor was killed. < 1319934449 131612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can retrieve most of your changes to this file < 1319934451 156393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the "recover" command of the editor. < 1319934453 38110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :An easy way to do this is to give the command "vi -r .git/COMMIT_EDITMSG". < 1319934455 113313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This method also works using "ex" and "edit". < 1319934457 90161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- ~/dead.letter < 1319935062 250994 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ~/dead.letter is there because you don't have a MTA setup < 1319935070 574889 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and something tried to mail < 1319935078 61874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what dead.letter is < 1319935092 399191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has killed many a letter < 1319935095 184723 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why did you paste it? < 1319935103 441698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the letter is funny < 1319935107 90075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1319935169 408021 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1319935573 322575 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1319935588 747219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nave < 1319935853 376433 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1319936814 742942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1319936840 150436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :And time is running backwards. And so is the bride. < 1319937378 295667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hey i was just /wondering/ about the dst when i said hmm < 1319937391 27926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/just \/wondering\//\/just wondering\// < 1319937509 495782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hack & slash < 1319937613 627206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming oerjan is referring to dst. < 1319937645 313340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hack & slash is _so_ connected with dst < 1319937890 7494 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi what is EC < 1319937895 601735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ec < 1319937927 68328 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, I suppose it is. < 1319937944 72508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ec is ec < 1319937960 113467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you look at it objectivistically < 1319938036 789347 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally object to objectivistic. < 1319938286 648110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how subjective of you < 1319938461 57249 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a tree falls on an objectivist and no one else hears it: does anyone else care? < 1319938495 349560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends where you buried the body. < 1319938597 239224 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1319938791 420319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1319938840 778203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logs < 1319938844 189115 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: logs: not found < 1319938850 775233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@logs < 1319938851 41621 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/index.html < 1319938852 658718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: try it yourself < 1319938855 358655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^logs < 1319938855 578133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs, that is < 1319938861 487405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1319938863 536022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1319938916 406725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo hi < 1319938927 664018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1319939046 197114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1319939049 38393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it worked < 1319939052 453307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs, that is < 1319939055 542561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1319939055 880385 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just not looking in the right place < 1319939059 292126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1319939076 832439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't help poor EgoBot < 1319939372 66703 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1319939553 537359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :astonishing spam < 1319939603 88448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1319939988 776980 :kmc_!~keegan@72-59-201-252.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319940173 388118 :kmc!~keegan@108.113.143.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1319940280 317612 :kmc_!~keegan@72-59-201-252.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1319940724 404941 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :do C++ templates make C++ kind of sort of dependently typed? < 1319940771 671485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks worried at elliott  < 1319940775 412323 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: no < 1319940778 468024 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1319940782 371189 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1319941012 443442 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like macro expansion than dependent types. < 1319941067 651191 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable205.137-82-70.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1319941220 683797 :kmc_!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319941352 837291 :kmc_!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net NICK :kmc < 1319941385 447727 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable205.137-82-70.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee doing ARM assembly at work < 1319941598 144550 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you madbr o? < 1319941706 347525 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable205.137-82-70.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed optimizing sound code :3 < 1319941986 222734 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet:.....:( < 1319942025 652782 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable205.137-82-70.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing a reverb atm and it's a challenge :3 < 1319942070 167710 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: .... ? < 1319942129 271580 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry I've never dealt with dependent types so I don't know much about them. T looked kind of like dependent types. < 1319942133 808838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319942168 989355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1319942203 794221 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you know perfectly well what you did < 1319942209 421382 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: do you feel no shame < 1319942239 692924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy mad./ < 1319942242 16103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\/$// < 1319942314 391543 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1319942460 958339 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: er, I don't know what I did. < 1319942474 315482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:26:08 < CakeProphet> you madbr o? < 1319942482 16669 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah, no shame. < 1319942484 940258 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable205.137-82-70.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1319942521 661475 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319942575 187655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i suppose C++ templates would be dependently typed if they actually _had_ types. < 1319942636 768269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why am i even speaking, i don't know c++ templates. < 1319942784 890558 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right thus more like macro expansion < 1319942807 893097 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kind of like dependent types if you think of templates as a kind of parametric type (which I think is a pretty reasonable analogy) < 1319942888 274363 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_metaprogramming < 1319943035 938499 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but unless you store the value parameters in a struct or something you don't really have access to the value at runtime. < 1319943116 284713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom values! < 1319943159 835671 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates do allow you to do most of the things you can do in haskell's type system < 1319943166 655217 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't mean it's dependent < 1319943172 508042 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all < 1319943182 562039 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering, uh, Haskell is not dependently typed. :P < 1319943195 379987 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, haskell approaches dependent types with GADTs < 1319943205 958903 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :they give you pseudo type-depending-on-value behavior < 1319943210 733353 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you jump through enough hoops < 1319943254 419632 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I must go kill brain cells. < 1319943262 168811 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :later. < 1319943361 765232 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1319944351 466852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: as soon as https://github.com/pbrisbin/aurget/pull/4 is merged you should switch over to aurget :p < 1319944438 90615 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once I need an aur, sure < 1319944512 742322 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable205.137-82-70.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if it would be possible to make an efficient dataflow oriented VLIW processor :D < 1319944526 441831 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MSleep < 1319944561 341257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: zzo38's recent logic experiments made me wonder - while haskell isn't dependently typed, is haskell's _type system_ dependently typed, with all the extensions heaped up so far... < 1319944598 969887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, if you just ignore the values and look at the types as values < 1319944609 367200 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you'd have to see the types influencing kinds < 1319944618 456902 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :which they don't, because we don't even have kind polymorphism yet < 1319944622 297278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: everyone always needs an aur < 1319944634 689869 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as far as values and types, it sort of already is dependently typed already < 1319944637 421222 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :-already < 1319944653 559948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: well someone is adding it, i think i saw... < 1319944658 473725 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1319944674 990841 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how the GADT equivalent will work at the kind level < 1319945256 599603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this intended to allow things like making Data and Typeable kind polymorphic? < 1319945415 362081 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, among other things < 1319945719 963861 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1319945723 567989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun to see someone discussing your bug report minutes after you make it on IRC :P < 1319945733 422108 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without knowing you're there) < 1319946553 721892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zero-Analogy Monad Tutorial (unknownparallel.com) < 1319946553 830594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no get it away from me < 1319946758 865953 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hum? < 1319946771 731141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum to what? < 1319946800 431671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are like elliott-eating monsters < 1319946818 492379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are like monads < 1319946828 36092 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are like things that are difficult to explain < 1319946887 125057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1319946914 557652 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't see a ZAMT there < 1319946920 983590 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are like things that are easy to explain < 1319946922 453531 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thumbs up) < 1319946929 607282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it was a paste from a reddit.com line < 1319946934 669761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" no get it away from me" was my reaction < 1319946938 646363 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1319946951 990843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything i post that looks like a title and a domain in parens is me being snarky at programming reddit links :P < 1319947039 874086 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1319947795 624408 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6000.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1319948397 855967 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can safely say that Vorpal was completely right about #archlinux and it is beyond even the wildest dreams of people who dream about really bad IRC channels. < 1319948408 776419 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bad is it really < 1319948417 706183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : I typed: sudo rc.d start webmin -x < 1319948417 778639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : And got nothing < 1319948417 778810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : lol < 1319948417 778917 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : stop trying to use webmic < 1319948417 779024 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : "getopt: invalid option -- 'x'" < 1319948418 42363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : webmin < 1319948420 120896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : just quit. < 1319948422 195333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : you don't want that < 1319948424 123571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why does everything suck? < 1319948426 208316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : sudo bash -x /etc/rc.d/webmin start < 1319948428 114796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : you suck < 1319948439 147841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANKS ZENDEAVOR, I'M SURE ZIPSPLAT REALLY APPRECIATES YOUR HELP < 1319948464 67128 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah blah one bad apple < 1319948472 333739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: this guy literally talks all the time < 1319948494 427372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like there hasn't been a five minute stretch when (a) I've been in #archlinux (b) he isn't talking every tenth line < 1319948516 687509 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly investigative journalism is required < 1319948519 9570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly this ZipSplat guy is super annoying too :P < 1319948610 713668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well neither is an op, it seems < 1319948637 191699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you should kline them. you're an ircop as well as a wiki admin, right? < 1319948702 742104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1319948749 927085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1319950030 570901 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1319950248 697419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You know, I just came in here to say NetBeans had a sexy preloader, and now it's been half an hour < 1319950248 842447 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ffs < 1319950249 336477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://i.imgur.com/eRCu6.png That is seriously sexy though. Or maybe that's just because I love that shade of blue. < 1319950264 843947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: no seriously, any channel that allows more than three (there were earlier) messages of netbeans preloader praise is the worst < 1319950272 79790 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1319950384 687155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why are so many IDE's Java powered anyways? < 1319950396 550683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :netbeans is java??? so weird < 1319951017 469693 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only effective control structure in the SQL reporting program I made is the for-each structure. It seem to be able to do most computations needed, but maybe there is something missing. Would it be needed? A virtual table that has an infinite number of records with values 0 for the first row, and then 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and so on... do you think it would help at all? < 1319951097 234457 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I wonder why that doesn't exist < 1319951099 591590 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be really useful < 1319951772 230372 :kmc_!~keegan@72-58-91-148.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319951813 492172 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319951916 262204 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1319951917 796606 :kmc_!~keegan@72-58-91-148.pools.spcsdns.net NICK :kmc < 1319952280 13891 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-16-158.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1319952394 76313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Ping < 1319952678 305366 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319953017 724120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Wake Gregor up :) < 1319953052 302380 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7cb3.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319953334 15594 :derrik_!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1319953405 454222 :derrik_!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee NICK :derrik < 1319953692 124144 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1319953785 195149 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable205.137-82-70.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1319954264 505790 :ive!~nn@189.179.245.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1319955083 469142 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal Re the triple fault, http://p.zem.fi/v6ll < 1319955083 661659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1319956513 138954 :ive!~nn@189.179.245.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319956593 18876 :ive!~nn@189.179.245.35 QUIT :Client Quit < 1319957084 277390 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319957823 417260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I like the not-in-the-usage "force". < 1319957826 825064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where it goes?? < 1319958738 199739 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-94-62.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319958944 669228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319959347 483565 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-94-62.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1319959356 838569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1319961838 277676 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1319962793 709957 :kmc_!~keegan@108.117.114.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319963022 316160 :kmc!~keegan@72-58-91-148.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1319963127 908827 :kmc__!~keegan@108.121.134.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319963364 154100 :kmc_!~keegan@108.117.114.127 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1319963942 467391 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: no reason < 1319964270 229477 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1319964584 508588 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1319965047 469447 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-94-62.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> b ++ [x] < 1319965048 72388 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b ++) . return < 1319965062 96817 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-94-62.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t return < 1319965063 333413 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a (m :: * -> *). (Monad m) => a -> m a < 1319965125 497385 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-94-62.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1319966163 194009 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-33-211.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1319966163 758262 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-33-211.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1319966163 830588 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1319966325 114686 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1319966385 364493 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-94-62.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319967184 235081 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-94-62.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1319967404 392641 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319967431 597735 :kmc__!~keegan@108.121.134.204 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319967461 794531 :kmc!~keegan@108.121.134.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319967548 187402 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know a proper (as in, POSIX conforming) cat(1) in an esolang apart from the one I wrote in befunge98? I was cleaning up $HOME and just found it. < 1319967548 302651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1319967637 93790 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, " kbd Use the keyboard controller. cold reset (default)" <-- how does that even work < 1319967647 780007 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm scared to look < 1319967861 344958 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just my luck. < 1319967864 669039 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone stole money from me. < 1319967867 963618 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :assholes. < 1319967869 940329 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1319967878 882735 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :$120 < 1319967882 624597 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1319967901 513539 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets his baseball bat. < 1319967905 492759 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to fuck some bitches up. < 1319967921 45917 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: not really) < 1319968959 721847 :kmc_!~keegan@173-114-141-220.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319969161 208267 :kmc!~keegan@108.121.134.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1319969356 378345 :kmc!~keegan@174-147-246-175.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319969499 147407 :kmc_!~keegan@173-114-141-220.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1319969642 804663 :kmc_!~keegan@173-114-73-15.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319969837 830296 :kmc!~keegan@174-147-246-175.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1319970006 638374 :kmc__!~keegan@108.97.205.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319970212 179161 :kmc_!~keegan@173-114-73-15.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1319970483 72781 :kmc_!~keegan@108.121.129.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319970669 836708 :kmc__!~keegan@108.97.205.183 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1319970701 835981 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-94-62.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1319970907 315680 :kmc_!~keegan@108.121.129.235 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1319970940 876244 :kmc_!~keegan@72-59-52-72.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319971159 571358 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-10-154.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319971465 807101 :kmc_!~keegan@72-59-52-72.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1319972311 921416 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the language shootout has benchmarks on CINT < 1319972322 347567 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good way to demonstrate the importance of implementation over language. < 1319972323 256061 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, ? < 1319972329 940786 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CINT? < 1319972330 172477 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :CINT = some C interpreter < 1319972332 685257 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1319972339 549282 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's apparently really fucking slow. < 1319972351 342105 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :slower than Perl, by a huge amount. < 1319972378 553239 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1319972388 762987 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why. < 1319972402 178507 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like C has complex semantics when interpreted. < 1319972414 966034 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl does all kinds of wasteful things. < 1319972443 629099 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when carelessly coded... which is... often. < 1319972452 342853 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :C doesn't have complex semantics? Seriously? < 1319972468 95106 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean compared to perl I don't see what would slow it down so much at runtime < 1319972491 579850 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps CINT is implemented in some poorly chosen language. < 1319972498 951525 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is just a poorly implemented interpreter. < 1319972551 937007 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language interpreted by CINT is actually something of a hybrid between C and C++, covering about 95% of ANSI C and 85% of C++. The syntax, however, is a bit more forgiving than either language. For example, the operator -> can be replaced by . with only an optional warning. In addition, statements on the command line do not need to end with a semi-colon, although this is necessary for statements in macros. < 1319972557 949397 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, okay. so its not really C. < 1319972561 84106 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some weird C-like scripting language. < 1319972621 280753 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89192.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319972643 49924 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome Tyler Derdon. < 1319972669 99132 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89192.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, thanks for welcoming me :) < 1319972703 779727 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen you before. Are you new and stuff? < 1319972711 342827 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome (I think) < 1319972716 234195 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no... < 1319972717 732998 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1319972722 811489 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( nevermind. < 1319972733 648865 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please welcome derdon. < 1319972734 277670 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: why would he have attempted?! decide!" on the floor tonight < 1319972735 287677 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome: not found < 1319972767 432168 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89192.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: I'm not really new, just a lurker in this channel ;) < 1319972897 248210 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1319973025 429510 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1319973507 549756 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric :some channels hate lurkers too < 1319973527 950749 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not this one < 1319973546 456090 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got my first kick on irc with message "lurking" < 1319973551 178278 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1319973595 602165 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. for joining a channel and saying nothing for 15 minutes, while everybody else was also silent < 1319973648 530213 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the transfer speed of a typical PC floppy drive btw? Anyone happens to know? < 1319973689 306847 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have been around a few kb/s < 1319973696 871774 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was slow, yes < 1319973721 789964 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, yes but I'm looking for numbers here. Are we talking, say, 1 kb/s, 10 kb/s or 20 kb/s < 1319973731 970490 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about* < 1319973749 823364 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR it took a few minutes to read (or format) the whole floppy < 1319973755 722677 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1319973784 887934 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :formatting could have involved operations that took a different time than normal reading or writing < 1319973794 526398 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, something like that < 1319973843 552906 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... 1440kB divided by something between 60s and 240s < 1319973898 749922 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so between 6 and 24 kb/s approx? < 1319973910 326921 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1319974110 838404 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or look it up in the big table of storage device transfer speeds < 1319974124 708967 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, huh, where? < 1319974128 331403 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, wikipedia? < 1319974138 148234 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who else would compile such a list?) < 1319974155 90342 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I haven't seen the list yet < 1319974178 676182 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I thought you referred to some specific list you knew existed < 1319974200 799128 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah wikipedia doesn't seem to have one < 1319974253 544831 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-10-154.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1319974269 603952 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amount an unemployed Utah man is charging for the opportunity to hunt and kill him : $10,000 < 1319974320 235927 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1319974645 707385 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: done < 1319975272 149593 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, he should be charging way more. < 1319975272 355842 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1319975865 929022 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The keyboard controller had an extra output pin they hooked up into the reboot like way back then, to provide a programmatic reset. Much like they did with the A20 gate. < 1319975907 318908 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1319976035 858378 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the PC speaker.) < 1319976061 960042 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I suppose the beep is a kinda-sorta keyboard-related thing.) < 1319976383 473807 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1319976580 581239 :Trista!~o@180.116.247.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319977361 850959 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319978121 530213 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1319978204 904388 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1319978376 382219 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a tuple of ([Int],[Char]) < 1319978391 898077 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I've got a bunch of those < 1319978422 227052 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I want to get rid of the ones with equal [Int] parts so it is unique < 1319978685 435468 :Trista!~o@180.116.247.13 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1319978787 595686 :Trista!~o@180.116.247.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319978905 243363 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any idea how? < 1319978912 685961 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In haskell, btw < 1319979122 29632 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?ty nubBy ((==) `on` fst) < 1319979122 852498 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b. (Eq a) => [(a, b)] -> [(a, b)] < 1319979194 454027 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let l = [(1, "foo"), (2, "bar"), (1, "baz"), (3, "quux")] in nubBy ((==) `on` fst) l < 1319979195 359786 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(1,"foo"),(2,"bar"),(3,"quux")] < 1319979201 239105 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1319979202 791272 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1319979205 706795 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just going to do that. < 1319979218 492904 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Int], fizzie, not Int. < 1319979218 782281 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant is such a spoilamator. < 1319979239 206075 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Why would that matter? < 1319979240 992971 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t nubBy < 1319979241 694458 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (a -> a -> Bool) -> [a] -> [a] < 1319979263 153319 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it doesn't, it's just hardly the best demonstration. < 1319979334 412020 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let l = [([1], "foo"), ([2], "bar"), ([1], "baz"), ([3], "quux")] in nubBy ((==) `on` fst) l -- much improved. < 1319979335 259759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [([1],"foo"),([2],"bar"),([3],"quux")] < 1319979377 813273 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, he said that he wanted to get rid of those with equal [Int] parts, not pick only one of them. < 1319979402 689250 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I interpreted a bit. < 1319979444 825708 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly from the "so it is unique" part, though admittedly completely removing multiple things would also match that. < 1319979513 272769 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is right < 1319979522 166801 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not Phantom_Hoover's fault < 1319979524 362606 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mine < 1319979529 8042 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I will go now < 1319979530 729890 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1319979598 629202 :Trista!~o@180.116.247.13 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1319981254 817807 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1319981289 370773 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1319984885 781601 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-16-158.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319985491 878487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319985530 719280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, spam claiming to be from Microsoft < 1319985535 805606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that died out years ago < 1319985886 132988 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, they broke the theme.. it sounds like they took the old theme and just added another theme on top of (or under) it < 1319987310 569817 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-152-177.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1319987388 823449 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-224-19.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1319989049 490322 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-224-19.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1319989155 762682 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-224-19.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1319989255 393111 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-224-19.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Client Quit < 1319989273 860000 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-224-19.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1319989513 72116 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-55.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1319989542 987593 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-224-19.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1319989658 812503 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-174-132.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1319989786 60598 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1319990511 592941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319990817 676566 :ive!~nn@189.179.245.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1319992638 912374 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-174-132.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1319992846 906395 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a proper way of representing a TFM font in Haskell? data Font = Font { fontName :: ByteString, fontChecksum :: Word32, atSize :: Word32, designSize :: Word32, fontDimen :: [Int32], firstChar :: Word8, leftBoundChar :: [LigKern], rightBoundChar :: Word8, characters :: [FontChar] } deriving (Eq, Show); < 1319992885 566613 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data FontChar = FontChar { charWidth :: Int32, charHeight :: Int32, charDepth :: Int32, charItalCorr :: Int32, charLarger :: Maybe Word8, charLigKern :: [LigKern], charExten :: Maybe Extensible } deriving (Eq, Show); < 1319992968 907471 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data LigKern = Kerning { lkChar :: Word8, kernDist :: Int32 } | Ligature { lkChar :: Word8, ligChar :: Word8, ligDelCur :: Bool, ligDelNext :: Bool, ligSkip :: Int } deriving (Eq, Show); < 1319992988 334752 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Extensible = Extensible { extTop :: Word8, extMid :: Word8, extBot :: Word8, extRep :: Word8 } deriving (Eq, Show); < 1319992992 589466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do Americans really pronounce "buoy" as "booey"? < 1319993000 528645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it just this one particular American being crazy? < 1319993008 324835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the UK pronunciation is "boy") < 1319993023 333215 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Probably it is more than one, and not only necessarily American. < 1319993032 258761 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1319993043 964637 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1319993089 881288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1319993152 272589 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written a crappy program to help me write Pietbot < 1319993186 79424 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's essentially a version of Dijkstra's algorithm, over the space of Piet programs that only use push 1, add, sub, mult, and dup < 1319993206 249633 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't really work very well < 1319993262 228435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah I've only ever heard "booey" < 1319993295 363264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :American English is bizarre sometimes < 1319993303 133931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thanks for letting me know < 1319993312 764351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose British English is bizarre sometimes too) < 1319993391 481610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like the word has a sensible spelling for either pronunciation < 1319993414 862575 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which word are we talking about? < 1319993418 852878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"buoy" < 1319993436 797901 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely homophonic to "boy" < 1319993459 410272 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be pronounce "boo-oi" if language was logical < 1319994674 857171 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1319994794 194350 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working on Even has given me a good idea for that other language I was working on, Very. < 1319994817 676761 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also found out that Unicode doesn't have a lot of the arrow symbols I want. :( < 1319994821 694399 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1319994903 437 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, since IWC ended, I'm bingeing on Gunnerkrigg Court < 1319994989 116172 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, for a stack-based language, a good set of basic combinators is dup, swap, drop, quote, apply, compose. < 1319995013 716358 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem with restricting it to stack-based operation is that you have to make a lot of unnecessary guarantees about sequence. < 1319995077 424436 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you make those (or any minimal set of) combinators into composition operations, then in, say, "x dup f g", you can perform f and g in parallel. < 1319995100 621900 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You go from just composition into building a Big Damn DAG. < 1319995114 316351 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even entirely sure it needs to be acyclic. < 1319995203 82440 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not too sure what you are on about < 1319995401 880918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1319995525 473017 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey elliott < 1319995529 193689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1319995538 429534 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you? < 1319995558 657572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:40:37: fizzie, " kbd Use the keyboard controller. cold reset (default)" <-- how does that even work < 1319995558 729629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:40:47: I'm scared to look < 1319995564 199689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: x86 does everything through the keyboard < 1319995565 235416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: good < 1319995672 447829 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:31:09: Amount an unemployed Utah man is charging for the opportunity to hunt and kill him : $10,000 < 1319995679 975478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :amount CakeProphet is gullible: 100% < 1319995716 178414 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an objective measure of gullibility now? < 1319995730 72765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep! < 1319995734 554259 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Ngevd ROSYARROW < 1319995836 556166 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: it's measured in CakeProphets < 1319995870 66265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner++ < 1319996377 148939 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MERGE MY PULL REQUEST DAMMIT :| < 1319996385 408250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also < 1319996387 428375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: ROSYARROW < 1319996502 798265 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always misread rosyarrow as roysarrow < 1319996527 215384 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it makes no sense < 1319996587 424718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1319996603 369290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Targets (8): glibc-2.14.1-1 gcc-libs-4.6.2-1 gcc-4.6.2-1 libltdl-2.4.2-2 < 1319996603 579714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libpurple-2.10.0-3 libtool-2.4.2-2 pidgin-2.10.0-3 < 1319996603 652474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : sudo-1.8.3.p1-1 < 1319996618 130579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do core system packages even get upgraded this often. < 1319996634 952761 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arch mysteries < 1319996679 938209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish Nix was actually pcsm instead so I could use NixOS. < 1319996734 305096 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: x86 does everything through the keyboard <-- yeah, I forgot that < 1319996743 147375 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it reminded me of the horrible A20 line < 1319996746 697926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely. < 1319996773 137439 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and what scares me more is that it is still the default way of rebooting! < 1319996787 157541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You should have seen that reddit post. < 1319996791 760153 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, which one? < 1319996802 44945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I can't find, about how Linux reboots. < 1319996803 570773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really grotty. < 1319996806 633810 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1319996813 771438 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is that with or without kexec? < 1319996826 433441 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway what does "grotty" mean? < 1319996829 108886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kexec doesn't actually involve a reboot. < 1319996832 408642 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seen you using it recently < 1319996843 72775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/grotty < 1319996856 581211 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1319997313 82822 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1319998412 205043 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just seen this: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/people/dimitris/fc-kind-poly.pdf < 1319998415 968824 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting read. < 1319998486 801074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1319998601 745714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1319998951 138 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7cb3.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1319999441 436470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how using GNOME apps in Xfce is now ultra-painful because of GTK3 themes. < 1319999447 305286 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY I MISSPELLED HATE < 1319999492 163308 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes it sucks. I can live with it though, only eog and evince that have that issue for me. Don't use many gnome programs < 1319999496 525808 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use more KDE ones in fact < 1319999505 573168 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or QT at least < 1319999507 470567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me it's file-roller and evince. < 1319999521 673313 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, well I open file-roller sometimes < 1319999522 15190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adwaita is in fact uglier than the Raleigh-esque "no theme" that it uses by default. < 1319999523 841227 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not often < 1319999530 751739 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1319999537 421568 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Raleigh being? < 1319999545 594722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, the one that looks like Windows 95. < 1319999548 585161 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1319999549 567195 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1319999564 350034 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and Adwaita is the weird GTK3 theme? < 1319999570 817117 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it defaults to normally < 1319999573 22969 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1319999588 208658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the "standard" one. And, well, didn't default to it here; gnome-themes-standard isn't pulled in by the (tiny) xfce4 group. < 1319999595 58187 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot how that looked. I gave up on GNOME 3 after about half an hour of trying to get anything saneö. < 1319999596 171874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although both gtk2 and gtk3 are. < 1319999597 104968 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sane* < 1319999599 163672 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of some weird bug, I'm using a recolored Mist. < 1319999604 137407 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because most other things lag everything to hell. < 1319999606 290861 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: Grey Mist. < 1319999611 135189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the only acceptable colouration of Mist. < 1319999622 191871 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a clearlooks fan myself < 1319999622 265140 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gray with pink highlights. < 1319999622 772831 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doh. < 1319999630 394184 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, ouch < 1319999632 484818 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, clearlooks lags to crap too... :( < 1319999639 202541 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, given that Grey Mist only exists in your mind, apparently... < 1319999641 342277 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, what sort of computer? < 1319999644 703524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What. < 1319999647 994351 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laptop, pretty current. < 1319999651 756500 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: People have used Grey Mist for years. < 1319999652 135279 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1319999654 99099 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before I updated, everything worked fine. < 1319999655 154693 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... < 1319999656 947266 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something broke. < 1319999663 376622 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so downgrade! < 1319999664 350537 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a known problem. < 1319999667 787561 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy with a proper OS < 1319999669 350317 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ISTR asking for a link, whereupon you told me it should be on my system, which it wasn't. < 1319999671 314083 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as NixOS < 1319999673 207763 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, =p < 1319999676 546206 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, uh.. < 1319999677 808885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: grep -r < 1319999683 522582 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits Debian with a giant sledgehammer < 1319999699 293064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: NixOS doesn't let you roll back service state. < 1319999700 435216 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, just select old config in the grub menu and it will magically be back where it was before, modulo bootloader, which is quite a special case < 1319999707 536285 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh? < 1319999712 795719 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that is wrong then. < 1319999714 537968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: This is because it is not pcsm. < 1319999724 427257 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, still it is better than most other distros currently available < 1319999726 290172 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I don't think it's a kernel problem. < 1319999729 994474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can rollback /default/ service state, I would think, but definitely not running service state.) < 1319999731 611277 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xorg, I think. < 1319999743 574250 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, I think it lets you rollback that too? < 1319999748 639413 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, it is not just kernel < 1319999750 121549 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1319999756 220999 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1319999760 570266 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, it lets you rollback the system configuration because it is crazy awesome. < 1319999761 155276 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bootloader entries only do kernel, I think. < 1319999767 44275 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, not in nixos < 1319999767 253420 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are you talking NixOS? < 1319999768 841169 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1319999770 690941 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, yes < 1319999771 945314 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Grey Mist is not an option I can see. < 1319999776 385064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, what hopefully will happen is Clearlooks or whatever will be ported to GTK3 and then GTK2 will die. < 1319999796 276617 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, of course I'm a nixos fan. I'm not switching from arch just yet because of catalyst issues. < 1319999799 389591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Are you deliberately wasting my time? < 1319999808 640918 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION liked Shiki a lot, but it lags too. < 1319999835 461599 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you keep saying how fantastic it is and I can't find it for the life of me? < 1319999844 551636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[elliott@dinky esoteric]$ grep -r 'Grey Mist' . | grep sprunge < 1319999844 627378 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT WAS SO FUCKING HARD < 1319999875 842999 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, you want me to grep the esoteric logs. This was completely clear from 'grep -r'. < 1319999895 537174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, I leaked Grey Mist to #ubuntu and then never revealed it to any other channel again. < 1319999906 364527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be completely unreasonable to expect it to be in the logs of #esoteric. < 1319999935 79111 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-16-158.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1319999939 409002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it was also clear from 'grep -r' that you made the theme and distributed it here. < 1320000693 472331 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-21-159.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320001036 993120 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Actually I seem to remember pikhq was involved in its creation too. < 1320001041 538205 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a vague memory of it < 1320001075 661076 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also... dinky as a hostname? heh < 1320001085 715683 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going for cute or something? < 1320001091 637231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's small! < 1320001097 40248 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure < 1320001108 103544 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is that the Toshiba? < 1320001121 459046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. The Air is katia. < 1320001132 758440 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any obvious meaning of that one < 1320001136 343657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My naming scheme is that I don't have a naming scheme. < 1320001139 478213 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1320001145 160783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Prequel. < 1320001145 505501 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :katia meaning? < 1320001148 880321 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1320001159 710372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I had spent about two days trying to think of a name so I just picked one at random and stuck with it.) < 1320001190 412419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I've almost wrangled Adwaita into something tolerable. < 1320001374 516089 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what it is this < 1320001399 6831 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, an irc channel named #esoteric < 1320001423 921019 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i mean this adwaita thing < 1320001430 49071 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtk3 theme < 1320001430 537115 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't paid much attention here lately < 1320001432 525680 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1320001514 26869 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, btw don't you like the win95 style? You said it was better than the default Adwaita. But it sounded like it was "oh Adwaita is so bad even the win95 style lack of theme that gtk3 defaults to is better" < 1320001523 812260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's uglier than Win95 :) < 1320001527 766805 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay < 1320001539 461883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I almost have Adwaita looking mostly like Clearloooks. < 1320001541 316396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So woo? < 1320001546 828268 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I find it somewhat acceptable though somewhat jarring compared to everything else that I use, which either use gtk2 or qt with gtk2 backedn < 1320001549 728915 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :backend* < 1320001555 869012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ujst have to make the scrollbars smaller and more tolerable and make the menus slightly less awful. < 1320001571 276880 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, cool. Show me the screenshots and upload the modified theme somewhere < 1320001589 993522 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, btw can you keep separate gtk2 and gtk3 themes? Otherwise I will prefer getting the gtk2 one right for now < 1320001596 422223 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so few things use gtk3 < 1320001598 813011 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :as of yet < 1320001602 593270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, you can. < 1320001607 343535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just dump shit into ~/.config/gtk-3.0. < 1320001613 697215 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1320001622 516312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a derived theme or w/e but I just copied all the Adwaita CSS and started hacking at it because I'm lazy :P < 1320001626 874925 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it didn't seem to work out with a quick look at the GUI tools for it, but meh < 1320001636 38642 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably gnome's settings did something stupid < 1320001639 546378 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like store it in gconf < 1320001641 397259 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1320001649 958416 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait what, it is css!? < 1320001656 90894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. < 1320001658 539650 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought GTK themes used a custom format < 1320001663 84633 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTK 2 themes do. < 1320001665 574800 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1320001668 358894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTK 3 themes are an engine, like before, plus CSS. < 1320001669 304400 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why oh why css < 1320001677 251827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Dude, shut up, the old format was about 90 billion times worse. < 1320001682 171323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I already _know_ CSS. < 1320001682 469363 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sure < 1320001691 787130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same goes for Mutter (= Metacity 3) themes. < 1320001699 486688 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1320001726 349569 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm just saying CSS doesn't make that much sense for formatting stuff like scrollbar handle decoration < 1320001735 310616 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :postscript, that is the way to go < 1320001802 723766 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ^ < 1320001822 92975 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :P < 1320001833 291239 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a turing complete language for drawing windowing system, it makes perfect sense! < 1320001843 261841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Quartz uses PDF... < 1320001848 360187 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell, lets do postscript + vector displays < 1320001851 778502 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be cool < 1320001858 455888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is great because, in the first few OS X versions, screenshots were actually PDFs by default. < 1320001862 348508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scalable PDFs. < 1320001866 638042 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you told me before < 1320001872 273032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK, with embedded bitmaps for window buttons and the like but still :P) < 1320001884 70474 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I know postscript has been used for display in several systems < 1320001888 940272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they even "layered" it properly so you could plausibly eliminate a single window from the front. < 1320001894 49041 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pdf in OS X < 1320001900 33453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, Quartz is the successor to Display PostScript or whatever from NeXT :P < 1320001907 877192 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1320001970 450356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : outline: 99px solid red; < 1320001973 399026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This had better show up. < 1320002015 537467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ouch. Just ouch < 1320002026 249614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't :( < 1320002219 819418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can get a WebKit Inspector on the menus :P < 1320002247 310800 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i42.tinypic.com/35ask5s.png < Too pink? =p < 1320002270 449435 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320002284 555711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :barf < 1320002314 800974 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey look, I lost connection momentarily < 1320002327 105338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1320002468 919623 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, IT'S LIKE MY RETINAS STARTED HAEMORRHAGING < 1320002502 984421 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320002614 576780 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :;.; < 1320002843 484331 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW THE FUCK DO I ADD BORDERS TO THIS MENU < 1320003356 397062 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1320003366 369388 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no context whatsoever about whatever's going on in this channel. < 1320003379 123244 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought a bit of invalid XML would improve the mood. < 1320003555 522362 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told you we need an esoteric markup language! < 1320003781 351611 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-147-243.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1320004203 439769 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats an esoteric < 1320004276 477222 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://i42.tinypic.com/35ask5s.png < Too pink? =p <-- ouch < 1320004295 511847 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the colours are kind of matched at least < 1320004300 870429 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probs more of a lavender) < 1320004336 218801 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, personally I go for a blue-grey theme < 1320004350 914298 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard clearlooks + blue-grey solid colour desktop bg < 1320004352 120218 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1320004384 52117 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i41.tinypic.com/i35l5e.png < 1320004389 185172 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think that icon set matches beter? < 1320004390 511850 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :better* < 1320004406 851178 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closer hue, I think, but it's a bit darker. < 1320004409 758935 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1320004421 866833 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-55.elisa.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric :eewww < 1320004423 579246 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, I'm just not fond of pink < 1320004427 424638 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or lavender < 1320004429 796034 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or lilac < 1320004438 455578 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do ultramarine. < 1320004469 578906 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ultramarinepigment.jpg <-- like that < 1320004485 895267 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Way too strong of a color. < 1320004489 121638 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look too good on this monitor < 1320004493 979805 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks better in real life < 1320004505 930830 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, perhaps it is outside of sRGB? < 1320004601 98436 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is better: (\b -> if b == 0 then Nothing else Just (b, b-1)) or (\x -> guard (x /= 0) >> Just (x, x-1)) ? < 1320004680 734397 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome-colors distrobution is a tarbomb < 1320004681 658485 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::I < 1320004686 1428 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or this: (\x -> (x, x-1) <$ guard (x /= 0)) < 1320004692 833007 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Whichever one you like more. < 1320004722 223336 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to like the third one but what is your opinions of it? < 1320004747 560161 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd use ($>) if such a thing existed < 1320004760 807736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Another one for "combinators"? :-) < 1320004781 506591 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there ought to be a standard function (I'm not creative with names) of type Bool -> a -> Maybe a that returns Nothing if its first argument false, otherwise Just its second argument. < 1320004785 258917 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You can write one then, if you want that one < 1320004785 752980 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If such a thing exists, use that. < 1320004787 8420 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Should be in base, given that the flipped one exists < 1320004789 209215 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise write it. < 1320004801 270066 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (Control.Applicative is in base right?) < 1320004803 659299 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Everything in combinators should probably be in base. < 1320004805 64095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes. < 1320004811 925825 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, but this even more so. :-P < 1320004839 349755 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is False < 1320004847 304283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if (<*) =/= flip (*>) bothers anyone but fax. < 1320004850 799990 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\b -> listToMaybe [(b,b-1) | b /= 0]) < 1320004865 844632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Monad comprehensions eliminate the listToMaybe part, no? < 1320004874 243428 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Right. < 1320004884 46281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What it sounds like zzo38 needs is safeMinus :: Integer -> Integer -> Maybe Integer < 1320004884 635393 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I've give a Haskell solution, though. < 1320004887 781816 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not glasgow-exts < 1320004888 531219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :safeMinus 0 _ = Nothing < 1320004893 630299 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :safeMinus m n = Just (m - n) < 1320004895 155874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it's < 1320004898 722782 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not have to be only for Maybe, it could be more general to use any MonadPlus (or Alternative, although it seem less useful with Alternative because of the lesser laws) < 1320004900 285332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\b -> (b,) <$> safeMinus b < 1320004905 634901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booleans are evil, and whatnot. < 1320004909 384936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1320004911 235156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\b -> (b,) <$> safeMinus b 1 < 1320004919 816810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?pl \b -> (,) b <$> safeMinus b 1 < 1320004920 301123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :liftM2 (<$>) (,) (flip safeMinus 1) < 1320004923 856577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go. < 1320004932 872020 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so safe about safe minus < 1320004934 312081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :liftM2 (<$>) (,) $ safeSubtract 1 < 1320004940 789292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: It's safe if you think Integer = Natural. < 1320004950 789441 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :safeminus 1 100 < 1320005025 353095 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if n was always 1 it would work as a safepred though < 1320005059 148106 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I prefer (\x -> (x, x-1) <$ guard (x /= 0)) rather than using list comprehensions and that stuff, but I suppose you can use whatever < 1320005118 572363 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does (<*) =/= flip (*>) bother anyone? It is supposed to be different (with some (not all) Applicatives); it useful both ways with parsing, for example. < 1320005337 440434 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things such as Data.ByteString and Data.List and Data.Set have many common functions; why aren't these functions a class? < 1320005503 615828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why does (<*) =/= flip (*>) bother anyone? < 1320005510 148693 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :flipped operator almost always means = fliped version of the non-flipped one < 1320005516 77448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(visually) < 1320005521 279642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. (<<) and (>>) < 1320005525 568090 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty (<<) < 1320005526 463920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `<<' < 1320005530 257543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*>) = (>>) also so it's quite surprising that (<*) =/= (<<) < 1320005531 678424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hoogle (<<) < 1320005532 392594 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text.Html (<<) :: HTML a => (Html -> b) -> a -> b < 1320005532 559081 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text.XHtml.Frameset (<<) :: HTML a => (Html -> b) -> a -> b < 1320005532 731456 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text.XHtml.Strict (<<) :: HTML a => (Html -> b) -> a -> b < 1320005534 627118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1320005536 264859 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's somewhere :P < 1320005538 727344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's =<< < 1320005544 149080 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No it ain't. < 1320005544 258842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't think << exists < 1320005544 845004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is THE SAME < 1320005553 196873 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE SAME ONLY DIFFERENT < 1320005555 413411 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pretend I said (=<<) < 1320005563 505691 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(=<<) is different. < 1320005572 963337 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no way it could work like <* < 1320005577 447722 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, <* is actually useful. < 1320005603 588289 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1320005610 338464 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax wanted it to be called (*<), which is hideous. < 1320005668 289414 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<⁎ < 1320005674 31100 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<⁑ < 1320005689 150173 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<∗ < 1320005714 698767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁂ < 1320005774 96918 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :<☃ < 1320005783 176313 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because, hey, why not) < 1320006216 68444 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1320006241 75066 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1320007044 242226 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re keyboard, I don't think there's much more than the keyboard itself, the rebooting, the A20 gate, and the PC speaker thing. < 1320007064 377617 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "<". < 1320007064 872256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (the UK pronunciation is "boy") < 1320007072 760674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense great pun opportunities < 1320007086 369188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, it's actually quite hard to make a pun out of that < 1320007088 470655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although probably doable < 1320007093 288430 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's called a "pun-portunity". < 1320007096 100567 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh buoy here we go < 1320007102 847146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something involving fishing, presumably < 1320007144 434773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a port-boyteau? < 1320007180 843610 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Groan. < 1320007183 425789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: idgi < 1320007194 149157 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a port buoy tow? < 1320007206 810150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a pun on portmanteau < 1320007215 590836 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :groan < 1320007241 127939 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont like yuoe < 1320007248 691710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1320007283 619636 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is the fact that you usually find buoys at ports part of the pun too? < 1320007294 920827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...maybe. < 1320007313 294345 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puns upon puns upon puns. < 1320007327 381387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :P U N C E P T I O N < 1320007329 131389 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Within, not upon. I guess. < 1320007354 46359 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :upun < 1320007366 873869 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Up puns. < 1320007370 831226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You know how to get this GTK 3 theming thing to work, right? I'm sure you're an expert. < 1320007371 542521 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I deserve this pun ishment? < 1320007406 270104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1320007407 967505 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: kickban < 1320007418 574644 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you retroactively deserve it for saying that < 1320007419 926940 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It used to be so that you just gtkrc and include and whatever and there was this thing to reload, but I suppose with three it's all so different. < 1320007422 703161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i was about expecting to be kickbanned myself... < 1320007434 877221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes. It's: CSS. < 1320007457 387716 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, is it also HTML5 or 6 or 7 or so? < 1320007470 583665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, it's just CSS. < 1320007475 784552 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How rude. < 1320007477 80977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they have some internal XML representation to make that work? < 1320007482 263219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, the tags are named after the widget classes. < 1320007496 196655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GtkTreeMenu.menu { < 1320007496 289320 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm not exactly sobber. And I doubt I could help otherwise either. < 1320007496 361944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : background-color: @theme_base_color; < 1320007496 434295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1320007504 782383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sobber. < 1320007554 450925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finns never sob. they drown the tears in alcohol. < 1320007598 717703 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might sob if they ever got sobber though < 1320007612 12884 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Here's the useful. Perl, "use Gtk2; init Gtk2; my $ev = Gtk2::Gdk::Event->new('client-event'); $ev->message_type(Gtk2::Gdk::Atom->intern('_GTK_READ_RCFILES')); $ev->data_format(8); < 1320007619 173662 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ev->data('burp'); < 1320007619 246254 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gtk2::Gdk::Event->send_clientmessage_toall($ev); < 1320007621 5800 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so on. < 1320007627 621891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What... what does that do. < 1320007631 20952 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :burp < 1320007631 977143 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I was going to paste all that on one line but didn't manage. < 1320007634 189825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reload themes in all open windows? < 1320007637 906653 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It refreshes a thing. < 1320007642 245174 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thing that a thing. < 1320007647 457185 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1320007655 41827 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You modify your .gtkrc2rc2rc2rc rc manually and then it refresh. < 1320007665 655292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sure aren't very sobber. < 1320007682 842430 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me a break, it was like one litter of liter of tequila or something. < 1320007699 999441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor tequila pups < 1320007700 584428 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also not just any but *Greek*. < 1320007711 664731 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had lambdas and all. < 1320007721 669192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How are you funnier when drunk nobody is ever funnier when drunk. < 1320007722 488867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was functional tequila, i take < 1320007757 448669 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In "τηλ"!) < 1320007764 115023 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tellyphone number. < 1320007772 15778 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, a cat. < 1320007789 82959 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1320007794 334035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great keyboard hunter < 1320007829 176609 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just imagining fizzie staggering all over the channel. < 1320007833 515810 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1320007845 348509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a staggering thought < 1320007849 744101 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mee-eep", the cat said. < 1320007883 83456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: IT'S A CATBOT < 1320007891 311095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is like when fizzie started talking in lowercase but amazing instead of horrifying. < 1320007935 353811 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I'm "sobber" < 1320007963 334451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION passes Taneb some kleenex < 1320007963 910029 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sobbrest < 1320007974 885170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most sobbre < 1320008123 867784 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<✱ < 1320008177 320323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1320008193 30756 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<: < 1320008317 508853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1320008331 679133 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1320008340 206221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<:> < 1320008366 566634 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It is the fault of ineiros I think I say. < 1320008373 384198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't everything? < 1320008374 46547 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : This is like when fizzie started talking in lowercase but amazing instead of horrifying. < 1320008385 544478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god lay off the Halloween stories. < 1320008393 34574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: He didn't use ANY PUNCTUATION. < 1320008400 164193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUAHUGHGUAHGAU < 1320008407 534454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It wasn't like 2002. < 1320008412 622748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was rational, punctuated, lowercase other-fizzie. < 1320008417 946751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was HORRIFIZZIE. < 1320008434 19065 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to sleep tonight. < 1320008456 756068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is fizzie 30 yet. < 1320008484 816057 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not quite yet; actually not even 29 until April next year. But I suppose it's NEAR. < 1320008500 560104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humans live to 30????? < 1320008509 716501 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we died off around 26 or so. < 1320008517 570184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is just exceptionally long-lasting. < 1320008519 226071 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm s/we/you/ < 1320008519 905913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be his time soon. < 1320008547 491582 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn < 1320008556 136637 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is only musicians that die at 27. < 1320008557 135245 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've caught up on Gunnerkrigg Court < 1320008622 185100 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow deja vu < 1320008623 675192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: After starting... this morning? < 1320008630 754509 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1320008644 905942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it with comics that are short. < 1320008650 966330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not even comprehend how they exist any more. < 1320008672 407153 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : No, I just time-travelled multiple times < 1320008679 883722 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can read while I can read < 1320008681 529105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^ // < 1320008703 612288 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That indent was important < 1320008721 185244 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, how did you merge the parallel Tanebs into a single whole which read all of GK, rather than bits of it. < 1320008732 638055 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Careful planning < 1320008735 798999 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you need a program to read Haskell file without an extension so it doesn't know .hs or .lhs format, you can make it treated as .lhs if the first character is one of > \ % because none of these character are valid as the first character of a Haskell program anyways < 1320008753 955863 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm a couple of weeks older than I was yesterday < 1320008771 684023 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means my birthday was today < 1320008820 427012 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually add < to that list as well < 1320008860 363182 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, there is a sticker on my hand < 1320008875 479728 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "ENERGY STAR" < 1320008895 878781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1320008913 220925 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could have been worse < 1320008919 482612 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, no your birthday can't be in two weeks we 16-year-olds need to stick together. < 1320008940 520294 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's on Thursday, young Phantom_Hoover < 1320008943 816117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 15-year-olds are beating at our doors! < 1320008945 991638 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooo! < 1320008962 782304 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I will be delaying the celebrations until Saturday for personal reasons < 1320008964 409852 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, you get the infrastructure ready. < 1320008979 404504 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take over later while elliott covers the retreat. < 1320009066 617305 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to be 16 ;_; it's going to be horrible < 1320009075 622572 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip monqy "old age" < 1320009092 823204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1320009093 856647 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy "old age" rip < 1320009099 156519 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I can assure you it's awful < 1320009138 483522 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, yes, you deserve it for being 15 for so long. < 1320009149 803557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1320009158 272836 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 is bad too < 1320009188 475832 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, which is why you must give penance for it. < 1320009190 980680 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I imagine 16 is worse < 1320009204 370173 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 is semiprime < 1320009209 550969 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 is a fourth power < 1320009216 741627 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 2^2^2 < 1320009220 587652 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Listen to Taneb, monqy. < 1320009226 440536 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in the semiprime of your life. < 1320009247 425785 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He knows this because he is 16, thus wise.) < 1320009248 806483 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 is a pretty okay number but there are just so many bad things that could happen < 1320009256 653434 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could die. < 1320009280 42244 :evincar!~evincar@daffa.student.rit.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1320009281 55804 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :death by learning how to operate motor vehicles < 1320009288 321059 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my biggest fear < 1320009289 36283 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that at 16? < 1320009295 712037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :usa < 1320009322 201099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people start learning at 15 I think?? and can get a lisens at 16 / I just hope nobody notices me < 1320009324 188027 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm planning to go insane when I'm allowed to get a driving licence. < 1320009362 877041 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going to go wrong, PH < 1320009367 156278 :evincar!~evincar@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What variety of insane? < 1320009378 453380 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Why would you even bother. < 1320009378 525641 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Chinese New Year when the Sun and Moon are near 315 degrees? I thought I read somewhere but am not entirely sure how it works. < 1320009380 797245 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :From school information on road safety I understand that driving in your teens basically consists of endless melodrama and tragedy. < 1320009388 292081 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my hope is that I don't have to bother < 1320009388 808566 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're going to have all the materials you need to make a llama bone bracelet studded with bismuthite < 1320009394 428521 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but my fear is that i'll have to bother < 1320009397 179369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Move somewhere with a rail system that actually exists. < 1320009397 986141 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will menace with spikes of maple < 1320009402 500897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Amtrak is actually made of pixie dust.) < 1320009407 493923 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have always refused the driving license < 1320009411 71966 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rail system sounds nice < 1320009418 407925 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to Hexham! < 1320009426 180523 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, no, if I was in a strange mood I would leave the bismuthinite alone. < 1320009443 997327 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, tram system is better. < 1320009458 112820 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything but me driving cars < 1320009465 281550 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: I am probably going to get lynched if anyone else from Edinburgh reads that.) < 1320009467 75767 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, go to Sheffield! < 1320009477 440548 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Melbourne! < 1320009482 388942 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... Beamish! < 1320009484 47668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sheffield is bad I can confirm. < 1320009488 932113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes move to Beamish. < 1320009496 298239 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, don't listen to his lies nobody goes to Sheffield voluntarily. < 1320009496 436738 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be a Victorian! < 1320009498 567692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320009507 338115 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that with Melbourne /or/ Beamish! < 1320009509 29010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes Beamish is where it is at. < 1320009512 183893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what any of these places are :( < 1320009520 113936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy has never heard of Melbourne. < 1320009522 383108 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they important < 1320009526 418185 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You have heard of Melbourne right.) < 1320009527 579963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to Edinburgh we have a bus company with a really detailed WP article. < 1320009528 950772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of melbourne by name < 1320009535 272716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a place in Scotland. < 1320009535 691652 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what it is though < 1320009538 650403 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was almost called Batmania < 1320009542 552260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They drink beer there. < 1320009542 678957 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a good place < 1320009544 113764 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After Batman < 1320009544 441864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also coffee. < 1320009546 227949 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, do you, and I cannot overstress the importance of this question, know where Scotland is? < 1320009549 902358 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Tell monqy about the delights of Melbourne, Scotland. < 1320009554 359562 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scotland's over there < 1320009559 427728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no, that's Perth you're thinking of. < 1320009562 999109 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm miserable at geography < 1320009563 389173 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, right. < 1320009566 172717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Perth, Scotland. < 1320009567 393713 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I hate geography < 1320009573 981343 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's Inverness...? < 1320009582 747308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know how usa geography works < 1320009597 148828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You used to live in Melbourne, Scotland, right? < 1320009601 142946 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, nobody does. < 1320009602 273262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right below Wales. < 1320009606 599530 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, nearby < 1320009610 813756 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the suburbs < 1320009619 62057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In the middle of London.) < 1320009629 181258 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The South is in the southwest? WTF? < 1320009630 722300 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :London is of course part of Canada. < 1320009646 402282 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, you're thinking of Inverness, Sweden. < 1320009652 725472 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1320009662 748256 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daily reminder that British place names are so good. < 1320009673 882222 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps one of the nine Invernesses in the States. < 1320009678 483898 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Invernessi?) < 1320009695 865837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, that's Mexico. < 1320009700 436120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mexico, Iceland. < 1320009729 743058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I refer, of course, to the supermarket.) < 1320009735 364164 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear god if all of civilization is lost and future archeologists find this channel's logs they are going to be so educated < 1320009745 644474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1320009749 501590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are doing a public service. < 1320009766 273802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The USA also has 5 Edinburghs and two other places with misspellings of it. < 1320009770 35665 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iceland is, of course, near Argos < 1320009771 471941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Archaeologists: This is in fact a mating ritual. < 1320009784 414810 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb seeks to mate with aloril. < 1320009786 779346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes, the famous Aztec temple. < 1320009796 110236 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like to make up lies that confuse future archaeologists? < 1320009805 184244 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfff < 1320009805 342782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Such a joker!!!!! < 1320009810 30794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Archaeologists: zzo38 is a robot. Do not trust his lies. < 1320009822 757625 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We wouldn't bring ourselves down to the level of /cereal manufacturers/ < 1320009827 262335 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. farmers < 1320009831 491657 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I asked a question. < 1320009833 806607 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are a religious superclass < 1320009849 99147 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not trying to accuse anyone. < 1320009866 342417 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am just saying something that I think I once saw some idea somewhere, I forget, was it on television? < 1320009880 234225 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I am just saying something that I think I once saw some idea somewhere, I forget, was it on television? < 1320009883 309656 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :702) I am just saying something that I think I once saw some idea somewhere, I forget, was it on television? < 1320009897 327343 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 701 < 1320009899 750166 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :701) I'd insult you behind your back, but I don't care which side of your back I insult you on. < 1320009904 36566 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1320009907 575585 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320009907 915182 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320009908 235233 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320009908 307836 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320009908 461795 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320009911 492423 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :450) I go to clean up the shrapnel from a teabag and you're discussing the definition of god out of nowhere. < 1320009912 164946 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Television is of course, otherwise known has Mt Olympus < 1320009913 657872 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :665) Spacegoat is the network-operations-optimized-for-latency-of-minutes-or-hours-due-to-light-speed-limits variant of scapegoat, to be used when you need to check out some code from the Mars colony. (I'm pretty sure we'll have established a Mars colony by the time scapegoat rolls out.) < 1320009924 541466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, elliott is actually a sock I made to add quotes of me. < 1320009929 513465 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :313) elliott, incidentally, I started my explorations again after getting bored of the Himalayas. < 1320009929 713450 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :290) lol @ closed character set standard "What does this codepoint represent?" "Nobody knows." < 1320009929 786669 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :16) Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. < 1320009940 89998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those are all good. :/ < 1320009944 422207 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sock given life < 1320009950 870158 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is he a robot sock < 1320009956 225065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both. < 1320009961 306221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am actually a wooden robot sock given life. < 1320009962 53813 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :665 is perhaps a bit wordy, but not deleteworthily so. < 1320009970 212074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320009970 608463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320009970 974386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320009971 261951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320009971 574216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320009979 519027 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :309) elliott: there go my minutes of research!! < 1320009980 267608 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :252) in retrospect that wasn't even necessary, as communal readings of the Funge-98 spec do just a good job of getting rid of trolls < 1320009986 666326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :309... so good... < 1320009988 679675 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :69) i am sad ( of course by analogy) :) smileys) < 1320009991 70449 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :187) ais523, what is "MS Publisher"? Vorpal, you don't want to know. Vorpal: be glad that you don't know the answer Vorpal: "horrible" < 1320009991 772243 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :462) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets #toilet is useless is #toilet even a thing I'm looking for help with toilets < 1320009999 773335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, 187. < 1320010013 736350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :187 and 252 are both not that good, but 187 is amusing in its simultaneejiaetity. < 1320010016 122808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1320010017 401710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 252 < 1320010018 679537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :462 is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. < 1320010020 421469 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* < 1320010036 485017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320010037 640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320010037 407949 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320010037 773870 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320010037 992037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320010040 664644 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :140) Because you're a Mac user. I am! and proud of it to My mouse has *no* buttons. < 1320010047 318020 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :228) oerjan: What, can girls aim their penises better? < 1320010050 320372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be 140. < 1320010056 538762 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :544) Riots in Glasgow would probably be reported as a sudden drop in crime. < 1320010056 610119 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :147) ais523: killer bunnies can be harmed by domesticated canines only. < 1320010056 738801 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :600) well, oerjan has a lot of opinions on this, so I'll hand it over to him < 1320010058 750232 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like 140 < 1320010065 207803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's sort of half amusing, it is practically my job to delete Sine quotes. < 1320010068 610066 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These aren't even #esoteric quotes, are they? < 1320010070 417002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1320010071 777256 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what lead up to 228 < 1320010083 22613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehh, none of them are that bad. < 1320010085 575561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's get something objectively bad. < 1320010086 581695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quot < 1320010088 552949 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quot: not found < 1320010088 894042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioops < 1320010090 86944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320010090 529947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320010090 886111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320010091 319943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320010091 453202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320010095 782233 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :33) augur: pretty true. < 1320010099 268300 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :333) elliott: I doubt water memory can last for even one second in a gravitational field (or even outside of a gravitational field), but other people think they can make water memory with telephones. < 1320010109 226225 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :404) You make a fist, shake it at the sky, and shout "why, GNU, why?!" -- that is the standard reportig practice. < 1320010109 491129 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :642) yes 5 is very infixr < 1320010109 797780 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :530) Phantom_Hoover: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? < 1320010122 703569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote v < 1320010123 923854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 33 < 1320010124 709396 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1320010126 208680 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* < 1320010142 400179 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof* < 1320010181 520148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof* < 1320010203 261422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*foop* < 1320010213 389505 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pof < 1320010314 243993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Do you like to make up lies that confuse future archaeologists? <-- hey i just personally checked that london _is_ part of canada. < 1320010332 217955 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes there is a place called London in Canada. < 1320010348 41060 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in Ontario, I believe < 1320010353 339255 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1320010386 490800 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One webcomic I read for a bit then stopped and a character called something like "The Werewolf of London, Ontario" < 1320010423 885208 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The famous song by Warren Zevon. < 1320010934 574418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did you ever actually react to IWC. < 1320011013 758865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean post to the forum? no. < 1320011047 286442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes that's totally what I said. < 1320011052 193738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant it ending :p < 1320011086 731983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. yes i did. in a private message to you, as i recall. < 1320011123 321491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. i don't actually remember that. but then i was really tired < 1320011133 457698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you mean the three hours of continual sobbing. < 1320011143 14461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did not actually mention the word "iwc". < 1320011148 893541 :kmc_!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320011167 763595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, must have been that. < 1320011566 530531 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to play E-Card? I will tell you. One player get four water energy cards and one fire energy card, the other player get four water energy cards and one leaf energy card. Both players put one card face-down. And then reveal them. If both are water energy card then you put it aside and play another face-down card. < 1320011628 956469 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you count whoever gets one point according to the card played, and then you switch the hand you start with the cards that your opponent started with before. Play several rounds a predetermined even number, and then count whoever has more points wins. < 1320011870 687852 :kmc_!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net NICK :kmc < 1320011984 838814 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed that the DVI units specification used in TeX is not in lowest terms; I tried changing the numbers in the DVI file to lowest terms and it still works. < 1320012028 602575 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In lowest terms it would be 396875/7400448 < 1320012297 348513 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data PageObject = Special ByteString | Box [(Coordinates, PageObject)] | Character Font Word32 | Text Font String | Rule Int32 Int32 deriving (Eq, Show); < 1320012340 823425 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think the constructor for Text should not be String, because it could include kerns and the characters beyond 0x10FFFF < 1320012427 360105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ByteString < 1320012458 185562 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it could include kerns and it can include characters beyond 255 < 1320012492 172234 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the element type, then? < 1320012551 587832 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Maybe it should be [Either Int32 Word32] which would be sufficient, but I don't know if there is better way < 1320012664 732111 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think about this? < 1320013271 507105 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Left for signed and Right for unsigned? Seems slightly awkward to me. I never really liked Either in haskell. It feels to me that it doesn't really document the purpose of how it is used in the name and the type < 1320013298 392146 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare to Maybe, which is good. Why not just use Either Nothing YourType < 1320013311 700490 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not Nothing < 1320013321 866865 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either is good for error reporting. < 1320013329 650879 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather Either () YourType < 1320013358 346328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either Void YourType. < 1320013361 736282 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1320013372 821614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it's not isomorphic. < 1320013373 960924 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, or Either YourType Void I guess < 1320013380 408085 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, eh? < 1320013393 641885 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Void < 1320013394 311640 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: data constructor `Void' < 1320013399 379757 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1320013408 301195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Void < 1320013409 64049 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type constructor or class `Void' < 1320013413 332715 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Void < 1320013418 98516 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1320013421 126956 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay < 1320013439 791881 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway, my point was not the exact translation between Either and Maybe, but that it feels awkward < 1320013455 847955 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Left for kerns and Right for characters. < 1320013484 612377 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like those C system call APIs you run into sometimes: foo(int request, void *arg1, void *arg2, void *arg3) < 1320013502 430680 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ioctl is actually varargs < 1320013503 870129 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1320013510 374028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either is useful for error reporting. < 1320013526 272278 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, as in Either Result ErrorDesc or such? < 1320013528 330027 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I guess so < 1320013529 846844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse :: String -> Either ParseError AST < 1320013530 797593 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either () is like Maybe it is also a monad, doing some similar things. < 1320013551 181377 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, Maybe can also be used for successor type < 1320013562 653884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try :: (Exception e) => IO a -> IO (Either e a) < 1320013650 658398 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oooh TB is doing a live stream first impression of "Cthulhu saves the world", I heard good thing about that game. Just in case anyone is interested. Find a link from yogscast to his channel) < 1320013653 925826 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I have Left for signed and Right for unsigned is that the kerns can be negative or positive, but characters are only positive number < 1320013759 322022 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320014020 173905 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people complained that I have a "SUMMON CTHULHU" command on IRC, but now you are going to complain about a different feature of my IRC, isn't it? < 1320014542 552366 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1320014566 55850 :ive!~nn@189.179.245.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1320014828 564108 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320014981 524831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb! It's so good to have you h- what am I saying. < 1320015026 143722 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 4 days I will begin the preparations of 17-ness for you and Phantom_Hoover < 1320015052 882783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No you... can't become 17. < 1320015055 573590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not allowed. < 1320015092 927838 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because you have a birthday either very late or very early in the academic year < 1320015237 112598 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To prevent it they would have to be dead. However, I see no reason to disallow becoming 17 years < 1320015273 37846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed someone else already did a prime pun < 1320015310 634423 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a different one < 1320015328 851175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, semi-different < 1320015357 848341 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semiprime and fourth power < 1320015373 116455 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Is 9 a semiprime? < 1320015400 146699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no says wikipedia < 1320015401 980357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1320015408 663624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yes says wikipedia < 1320015476 294518 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320015529 432997 :evincar!~evincar@daffa.student.rit.edu QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 7.0.1/20110928134238] < 1320015579 348182 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1320015604 703677 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the Arecibo message will just become some other civilization's Wow! signal < 1320015685 259684 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anything at all < 1320015707 471103 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, possibly... < 1320015727 36008 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1320015738 79153 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-55.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: left < 1320015767 567197 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a better connection < 1320015789 194531 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I see if I can get all the way to Kindle? < 1320015890 783434 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb|Hovercraft: Arecibo is a bit more involved than Wow!... but also never going to get anywhere. < 1320015952 337616 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's recieved at all, it would be just a blip on a needle < 1320016026 175454 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be funny if the secret to FTL travel was accidently contained in the alternative layout of the Arecibo signal < 1320016177 331861 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why aren't we broadcasting a repeating cycle of prime numbers yet? < 1320016209 123451 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Carl Sagan made Astrophysics appealing to poets < 1320016288 853282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: why? < 1320016303 711299 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all our transmissions are just for show < 1320016419 851665 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I said why not. < 1320016429 218929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: uses money, power, equipment, ... < 1320016435 648670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :..., has no benefit, ... < 1320016442 396223 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: has more benefit than SETI < 1320016452 370458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has exactly the same (none) < 1320016468 264955 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless the aliens are religious types who view prime numbers as evil < 1320016476 129090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of stupid things, doesn't mean we should do more of them < 1320016491 606210 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also will provide a beacon for earth for when we invent faster-than-light travel and outpace our ability to communicate < 1320016506 313214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"when" < 1320016520 45854 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes back under his bridge < 1320016522 605132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just send out prime numbers for a few billion years in anticipation for that :P < 1320016547 722716 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With FTL travel it takes 4 years to get to Alpha Centauri < 1320016593 855602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm going to switch over to DST next year. < 1320016599 927676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone else will just do things an hour off. < 1320016608 669692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than clocks changing. < 1320016613 937812 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could make that choice < 1320016636 489648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits Taneb|Hovercraft with the sledge-o-matic ======[] < 1320016646 832344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You can, as long as you're OK with other clocks being wrong. < 1320016660 267073 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but other clocks are important :( < 1320016669 770484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what part of _faster_ than light don't you understand < 1320016689 983917 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was considering commenting on that, but thought that perhaps my grasp of physics was lacking :) < 1320016705 616546 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, proxima centauri is 4.24 light years away < 1320016716 186543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit can enable "occupy" movements to permanently shift power from corporations to people and move the world into a new era. Here's how: (self.politics) < 1320016716 296875 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, my hate of /r/politics has turned into a love of its new comedic format. < 1320016719 466320 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we can get there within 4 years, we have FTL < 1320016728 898187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb|Hovercraft: Why not 3 seconds? < 1320016739 524591 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that would be stupid < 1320016756 124010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1320016768 320918 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :'new comedic format'? < 1320016837 887296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just open a permanent wormhole with exotic spices. < 1320016864 766332 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, too expensive < 1320016882 317073 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen the price of spices these days? < 1320016973 701225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll just use homeopathic methods to thin them out while increasing their efficiency < 1320017021 473255 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could work... < 1320017024 651132 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1320017029 237865 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been able to get decent melange in ages < 1320017039 170502 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'd have to get one of them closed timelike curves going < 1320017048 177782 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think IKEA sells them < 1320017058 604118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb|Hovercraft: well i hear dmm already fixed that for us < 1320017154 568214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'new comedic format'? < 1320017157 496366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :observe: Reddit can enable "occupy" movements to permanently shift power from corporations to people and move the world into a new era. Here's how: (self.politics) < 1320017220 685196 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1320017223 667397 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-189.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320017227 262466 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-200-101.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1320017255 637976 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89192.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320017359 965831 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the most number of parameters you have used for a ... <$> ... <*> ... <*> ... <*> ... function? < 1320017374 431666 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them < 1320017428 523892 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like how liftA2 has two (like f <$> x <*> y) and liftA3 with three, what is the most you have used? < 1320017502 823219 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started writing the TFM reading program and I realized I used eleven. < 1320017557 775484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that requires the function before <$> to take that many parameters, as well... < 1320017592 26624 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does. It takes thirteen parameters (two of which are specified before <$> to make eleven more required) < 1320017628 588210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a candidate for splitting things up... < 1320017675 687344 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way the TFM format is specified it can use all of them at once. < 1320017730 208790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thestallmandialogues.com/ < 1320017735 191707 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89192.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320017926 90386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are actually physically painful to read < 1320018046 401890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, then stop. < 1320018078 376838 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89192.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320018083 569594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i cant....... < 1320018095 113623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. required reading. < 1320018177 456838 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-21-159.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1320018850 255029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so oerjan i hear that irregular webcomic is goign to start updating a regular rate... of... < 1320018851 383064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZERO < 1320018852 534455 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is string theory: science, philosophy, or mathematics? < 1320018855 32273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1320018902 589631 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320019074 913153 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, don't you think it is sad? < 1320019083 249099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1320019084 649785 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heartless bastard < 1320019102 481671 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap, I'm back to Ngevd < 1320019135 201237 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-66-96.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds