< 1326846011 95879 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-001-153.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326846929 983142 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is losing it
< 1326846930 423561 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/56573 < 1326846947 793172 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(54's join should read joinEvent, which is fixed on my local copy) < 1326848015 753087 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: isn't mconcat optional? < 1326848028 867296 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just write mappend? < 1326848068 596625 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, because the default mconcat would be horribly inefficient < 1326848083 598604 :CHeReP!~cherep@217.172.23.118 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1326848095 903329 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ah okay. yeah I kind of figured that may be way. < 1326848123 463372 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*why < 1326848124 291975 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1326848126 114434 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just typoing < 1326848127 74618 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything < 1326848415 322990 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is alive < 1326848438 369460 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : well... duh. :P < 1326848470 962475 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needed a break from elliott, to be honest.
< 1326848476 510813 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately now the channel is less alive. < 1326848481 80384 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for now. < 1326848485 523273 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so lonely < 1326848491 379622 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's okay I'm here it's okay. < 1326849310 827249 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1326849325 100722 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326849446 804241 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326849584 442715 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Client Quit < 1326849602 2538 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1326849975 236546 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1326850380 668096 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1326850407 826640 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-4.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1326850408 209849 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-4.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1326850408 373854 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1326850855 772735 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1326850880 873513 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1326850934 399587 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Client Quit < 1326850978 474472 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1326851254 421801 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1326852250 278710 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ping < 1326853654 367726 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length ",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,," < 1326853655 385492 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 33 < 1326853665 1076 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1326853676 249257 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was expecting that number to have more significance. < 1326854020 453204 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-207-24.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326854150 308364 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-245-168.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1326854654 607098 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads the Idris tutorial
< 1326854663 557897 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, :33 < 1326854673 470046 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: Probably not actual significance) < 1326854711 891091 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1326854712 416132 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... I'll take whatever you can give, I guess. < 1326854774 632588 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION meows
< 1326854815 123934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1326856634 951342 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, tswett update < 1326856661 682262 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I congratulate myself on checking MSPA right before you tell me of this. < 1326857256 489325 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@121-73-182-130.dsl.telstraclear.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326857259 323204 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@121-73-182-130.dsl.telstraclear.net QUIT :Changing host < 1326857259 484925 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1326858256 185512 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1326858852 406352 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle chr < 1326858852 811374 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Char chr :: Int -> Char < 1326858852 977361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text.PrettyPrint.HughesPJ Chr :: Char -> TextDetails < 1326858852 977564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text.PrettyPrint Chr :: Char -> TextDetails < 1326858865 391868 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle inRange < 1326858865 854642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Ix inRange :: Ix a => (a, a) -> a -> Bool < 1326858877 233015 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Char -> Int -> Char < 1326858877 761802 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Generics.Aliases extB :: (Typeable a, Typeable b) => a -> b -> a < 1326858877 923716 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude const :: a -> b -> a < 1326858877 923900 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Function const :: a -> b -> a < 1326858974 174273 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I so giddiy right bnow < 1326859394 573798 :FireFly!firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1326861227 617434 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Excess Flood < 1326861322 203295 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1326862002 74053 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, tswett update < 1326862766 308046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1326863431 504658 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326863445 518904 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-207-24.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1326865241 234124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endofunctor < 1326865244 824925 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :endofunctor? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1326865284 966977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Endofunctor are just endomorphisms in the category of categories." > wisdom/endofunctor < 1326865288 346037 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1326865290 710000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endofunctor < 1326865294 685469 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Endofunctor are just endomorphisms in the category of categories. < 1326865298 318054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1326865303 367448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories." > wisdom/endofunctor < 1326865303 569401 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard you like category theory < 1326865306 866490 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1326865307 102114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endofunctor < 1326865311 187811 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Endofunctor are just endomorphisms in the category of categories. < 1326865315 181339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endofunctor < 1326865318 947059 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories. < 1326865545 130683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :This topic is no fun any more. | Now in colors! | So, what is blegnian motion, anyway? | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1326865654 428206 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan TOPIC #esoteric : This topic is no fun any more. | Now in colors! | So, what is blegnian motion, anyway? | | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1326865660 416314 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :No colors? :( < 1326865667 392344 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan TOPIC #esoteric :This topic is no fun any more. | Now in colors! | So, what is blegnian motion, anyway? | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1326865700 46549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the channel which is colors, not the topic. < 1326865703 661274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in < 1326865744 387962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would assume they don't want /list to give colors. < 1326865753 449779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if the channel itself has them. < 1326866108 886537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:29:16: C#++'s lambda syntax is strangely similar to STG's < 1326866109 48034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:29:48: [list of free variables](list of arguments) -> { expression } < 1326866127 775695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's due to not doing closure implicitly in either case? < 1326866175 879286 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1326866201 96711 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, hot sauce. < 1326866206 475190 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C#++ o_O? < 1326866215 58511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: IT WAS INEVITABLE < 1326866215 313940 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like Objective C++ < 1326866240 633040 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc in C++11 you can ask for implicit closure < 1326866241 294176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, now for objective D#++ < 1326866245 433584 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What do you get when you press + + on your keyboard? < 1326866252 332883 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Visual Objective D#++.NET < 1326866255 810414 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1326866259 933937 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I get # < 1326866261 554981 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? It's an omen. < 1326866264 120743 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1326866288 247598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more proof it's the end times < 1326866314 543242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 666 < 1326866315 497506 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\666' < 1326866320 999407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ chr 666 < 1326866321 897024 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Base.String' < 1326866322 59159 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred typ... < 1326866330 899238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var [chr 6669 < 1326866332 4726 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1326866333 458379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var [chr 666] < 1326866334 442544 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: : hPutChar: invalid argument (Invalid or incomplete mu... < 1326866352 70183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly the universe tries to censor that. < 1326866374 295871 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text $ chr 666 < 1326866375 336102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Base.String' < 1326866375 498374 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred typ... < 1326866378 199402 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text [chr 666] < 1326866379 183541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: : hPutChar: invalid argument (Invalid or incomplete mu... < 1326866403 230029 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah lambdabot's unicode support is broken < 1326866447 424192 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory 'ʚ' < 1326866448 339493 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : LowercaseLetter < 1326866450 992711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : iirc in C++11 you can ask for implicit closure <-- explicitly implicit, check < 1326866453 397357 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ʚ = 3 in ʚ < 1326866454 411689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1326866466 224781 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yep < 1326866668 396601 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :std::function add2(int x) { return [&] (y) -> { return x+y; }; } < 1326866673 683324 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1326866690 141015 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[&] says "capture everything by reference" which ends up capturing x, but you don't need to name x again < 1326866694 677015 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[&] will take a reference, won't it? < 1326866699 564979 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably want [=] in this case. < 1326866710 252267 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I guess that code will not really work < 1326866728 760316 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking about the syntactic point and not about whether it actually works :) < 1326866756 925745 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also say like [=, &foo] to mean "capture by value, except foo by reference" < 1326866763 176776 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fmap (\x tail x) [2,3,4] < 1326866764 106712 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `)' < 1326866768 328876 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1326866769 793699 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty nutso but does make sense with the rest of C++ < 1326866795 117199 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why do any of this when you can boost::bind and boost::lambda?! < 1326866819 776449 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Real Programmers don't use libraries? < 1326866843 671525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x x = x in x 2 < 1326866844 601251 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1326866852 297266 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was an IAP course about what's new in C++11 but I already missed it :/ < 1326867060 410245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh look Wikipedia is going down in 11 hours. <-- average geek IQ now temporarily down by 20 points < 1326867086 19204 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easiest way to bypass the Wikipedia blackout: Press Esc before the page is finished loading. < 1326867089 271943 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's only easy if you're using a slow Internet connection like me. < 1326867094 699581 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia isn't a "geek" site, it's used by p. much everyone < 1326867113 297174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wut that's ridiculous < 1326867116 592504 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have a question < 1326867130 332273 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype T = T [T] < 1326867135 480127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok then, average IQ of _everyone_ down by 25 points < 1326867140 579269 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was I laughed at for calling this an ordered multiset. what is a better name for it? < 1326867152 764387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were laughed at? < 1326867158 553601 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. ;_; < 1326867167 372718 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well < 1326867169 643281 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1326867174 200485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "list"? < 1326867175 662528 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ridiculed. there we go. < 1326867187 676286 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Wikipedia's about as used as Google. < 1326867191 578026 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. ubiquitous. < 1326867192 374483 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes but it's like how you can construct set theory from just sets < 1326867202 525283 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now it's with lists < 1326867206 564137 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are ordered... and multi. :P < 1326867210 205925 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is making perfect sense.
< 1326867233 238546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: sure but the difference is in the recursive part, which the terms don't really change < 1326867248 113016 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, http://www.google.com < 1326867279 10974 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like google is celebrating the 139th birthday of the guy who invented tape < 1326867354 668718 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brown paper, white paper, sticking together... < 1326867390 109356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's racist! < 1326867436 692298 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :-( < 1326867443 610610 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326867444 803570 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I compensate for it by typing random Unicode characters? < 1326867462 663359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that political correctness means you can call someone racist even if they meant the exact opposite
< 1326867494 614379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, NOT SENSITIVE ENOUGH < 1326867537 516137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure as long as they're not _racist_ unicode characters. < 1326867559 719051 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :263A WHITE SMILING FACE [☺] < 1326867559 917493 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :263B BLACK SMILING FACE [☻] < 1326867561 990268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't mix traditional and simplified chinese, that's insensitive < 1326867575 721801 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How did I do? < 1326867587 969267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: horrible, yw. < 1326867645 807833 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not so much "insensitive" as it is "illegal in the People's Republic of China" < 1326867675 426122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: in the PRC those are synonyms, hth < 1326867750 564083 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh help wikipedia is down < 1326867751 363916 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how speak < 1326867755 482610 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what computer is? < 1326867766 339850 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wakaran < 1326867770 312548 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eigo nikui < 1326867773 961515 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what wakaran is? < 1326867778 301888 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdf < 1326867783 357270 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wakaran asdf be < 1326867801 855703 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in gnome-terminal the colors are inverted < 1326867806 872855 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what they should be. < 1326867824 61572 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Nah, it's just that the colours refer to the outlines rather than the filling. < 1326867836 657190 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it has nothing to do with gnome-terminal specifically, just your color scheme. < 1326867851 658849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: try conservapedia instead < 1326867862 394076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be interesting. < 1326867905 221714 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just press Esc before the blackout overlay loads. < 1326868015 176317 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hax < 1326868039 514866 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or use https: < 1326868047 678636 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION edits talkpage while wiki is in blackout
< 1326868074 627439 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1326868078 717195 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no edits < 1326868079 592564 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shinkansen < 1326868512 911868 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-161-147-186.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: SLEEP, GLORIOUS SLEEP < 1326869054 310257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : this is a bidirectional loop. it's not entirely clear which direction the projectile is going. intuitively it goes back and forth between the two arrows. < 1326869068 515144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if a portal moves between the arrows facing one of them, what then < 1326869087 764683 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there are currently... 4 different rule variations I've come up with. < 1326869107 507285 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :either the portal is captured, the portal isn't captured (as long as it faces one of the two directions of the loop) < 1326869112 66719 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you flip a coin to decide (gross) < 1326869113 80971 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1326869124 105624 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the direction oscillates between each round of turns < 1326869135 753922 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so every set of turns (one for black and one for white) it changes direction < 1326869140 183503 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I like this one the best. < 1326869150 804111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ök < 1326869168 405953 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it does make it a bit more complicated to keep track of < 1326869176 247281 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S WHY PORTAL CHESS IS ONLY FOR EXTREME STRATEGISTS. < 1326869229 734838 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :strategists who like insane rules. < 1326869323 277631 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also later I fix a particularly bad opening scenario with MORE INSANE RULES < 1326869329 7112 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :now arrows have a pushy effect(tm) < 1326869514 856841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1326869993 359309 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so you see, by piling on more insane rules, you fix the brokenness of existing insane rules < 1326869996 398149 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because everything is insane < 1326870000 57341 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it counteracts the insanity. < 1326870011 951633 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the first rule of programming language design < 1326870030 371237 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : now arrows have a pushy effect(tm) < 1326870044 603333 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i choose to willfully misinterpret all of what you said as an analogy about Haskell Arrows < 1326870058 168889 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc needs his fix of #haskell < 1326870465 573105 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1326870486 158995 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-4.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1326870486 576419 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-4.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1326870486 738040 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1326870780 537363 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooo wikpedia < 1326871020 372230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :*.net *.split < 1326871084 235886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1326871118 379139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :splat < 1326871184 806450 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> round 22.5 < 1326871185 848873 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 22 < 1326871188 416385 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> round 23.5 < 1326871189 386602 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24 < 1326871196 777347 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. banker's rounding. < 1326871678 275895 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1326871686 935876 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how you would do rounding that is not dependent on base. < 1326871723 966096 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could just do the same thing actually. < 1326871731 394435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :banker's rounding isnt'... < 1326871740 505446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*'t < 1326871767 577308 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd based would have the nice property of not having to worry about a midpoint value, I think. < 1326871773 244860 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bases < 1326871817 407889 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could convert to, say, base 5 < 1326871819 777445 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :round that < 1326871824 724858 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then convert to base 10. :> < 1326871876 628326 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...which is equivalent to banker's rounding, actually. < 1326871889 269845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that would just mean the real decision happens when you convert to base 5 with limited precision < 1326871912 834989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(.5)_10 = (.2222222222222222...)_5, after all < 1326872012 398604 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well you could convert to... base 19 < 1326872021 891392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny guy < 1326872039 512479 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has twice as many digits < 1326872051 629631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's repeating floor(b/2) for any odd b < 1326872136 213499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I don't see why you're always all "ping"y at 4am or so. < 1326873579 65971 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1326874074 35940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1326877052 355213 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1326882727 903417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326882824 80953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1326882884 626564 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: lol < 1326882906 205123 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the last two times its 9pm! < 1326886670 379860 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1326890097 978295 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1326890281 589553 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326890418 541005 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-155.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326890445 415491 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-243-123.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1326890584 685119 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326890639 575899 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, looked at Reddit, was surprised it was still up, realised that I had connected nineteen minutes before the blackout. < 1326891516 741467 :roper!~rod@95.169.240.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326891811 527888 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1326892740 714083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326894031 595792 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1326894327 803461 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh so they're apparently considering the removal of leap seconds. < 1326894659 101302 :roper!~rod@95.169.240.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix was not wrong < 1326894720 8694 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1326894804 155801 :roper!~rod@95.169.240.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix has not leap seconds in time_t < 1326894938 351104 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it has seconds, it's just that the leap seconds are unambiguous. < 1326894942 97608 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :-un < 1326895152 600963 :roper!~rod@95.169.240.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ambiguous? < 1326895179 718449 :roper!~rod@95.169.240.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does not consider them when converting to things like 20120118135900 < 1326895283 87677 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which "they"? < 1326895356 613929 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, link? < 1326895482 245802 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to do something, they can do bigger corrections less often < 1326895497 391241 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have leap hours then there's time to get a proper party going < 1326895514 175537 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand people might find it disconcerting to existing outside the space-time continuum for a full hour < 1326895723 123966 :roper!~rod@95.169.240.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not leap hours , it is daily savings time < 1326895733 849295 :roper!~rod@95.169.240.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1326896297 548741 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1326896547 135087 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1326897131 372931 :roper!~rod@95.169.240.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, time still exists. UTC has not that hours, it is a political measure, they say "to save energy" < 1326897608 258708 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand < 1326897619 436345 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DST and leap seconds are completely different; they serve entirely different purposes < 1326897729 581535 :roper!~rod@95.169.240.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. i mean that < 1326897941 837780 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-161-147-186.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326898905 409993 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hug~♪ < 1326902682 29002 :kallisti!~eris@gate-30.spsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1326902682 190947 :kallisti!~eris@gate-30.spsu.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1326902682 191167 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1326902703 914920 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what things can const repsent besides a constant function and church encoded true. < 1326902708 484474 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*represent < 1326903356 100127 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t intersect < 1326903356 622098 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Eq a) => [a] -> [a] -> [a] < 1326903441 202875 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ls = [[1,2,3],[4,5,6],[7,8,9]]; pairwiseDisjoint = all null $ intersect <$> ls <*> ls < 1326903441 903282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: `let ls = [[1,2,3],[4,5,6],[7,8,9]]; pairwiseDisjoint = ... < 1326903459 173139 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ls = [[1,2,3],[4,5,6],[7,8,9]]; pairwiseDisjoint ls = all null $ intersect <$> ls <*> ls in pairwiseDisjoint ls < 1326903459 876192 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1326903531 572842 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ls = [[1,2,3],[4,5,6],[7,8,9]]; pairwiseDisjoint ls = intersect <$> ls <*> ls in pairwiseDisjoint ls < 1326903532 98949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3],[],[],[],[4,5,6],[],[],[],[7,8,9]] < 1326903535 444466 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1326903634 600785 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ls = [[1,2,3],[4,5,6],[7,8,9]]; pairwiseDisjoint ls = (== ls) . filter (not.null) $ intersect <$> ls <*> ls in pairwiseDisjoint ls < 1326903636 986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1326903653 473054 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably not correct. < 1326903983 668229 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, note that there has been an update < 1326903986 883492 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A while ago < 1326904165 116912 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes always updates < 1326904167 538058 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :section headings for this chapter: 2.1 statements 2.2 the negation of statements 2.3 the disjunction and conjunction of statements 2.4 the implication 2.5 more on implications 2.6 tautologies and contradictions 2.8 logical equivalence 2.9 Quantification < 1326904179 229318 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... not going to learn anything this chapter. < 1326904263 159972 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 11*11 < 1326904263 879997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 121 < 1326904286 480965 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 11*12 < 1326904287 185917 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 132 < 1326904434 979369 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t minus < 1326904435 678509 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `minus' < 1326904439 214443 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Mminus < 1326904439 722043 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: data constructor `Mminus' < 1326904441 658665 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t M.minus < 1326904442 183931 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find qualified module. < 1326904445 353812 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle minus < 1326904445 515596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foreign.Ptr minusPtr :: Ptr a -> Ptr b -> Int < 1326904445 515789 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foreign.C.Error throwErrnoIfMinus1 :: Num a => String -> IO a -> IO a < 1326904445 677494 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foreign.C.Error throwErrnoIfMinus1_ :: Num a => String -> IO a -> IO () < 1326904479 491000 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle prime < 1326904479 853901 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.HashTable prime :: Int32 < 1326904480 15985 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :package primes < 1326904480 177952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :package optimusprime < 1326904489 698682 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1326904571 52305 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-161-147-186.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: SLEEP, GLORIOUS SLEEP < 1326904643 384592 :werni!werni@84-74-156-194.dclient.hispeed.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1326904858 444589 :werni!werni@84-74-156-194.dclient.hispeed.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone < 1326905024 457440 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome werni < 1326905030 961969 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?`welcome werni < 1326905031 374606 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1326905036 505575 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :werni: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1326905092 69605 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t scanl < 1326905092 769340 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b. (a -> b -> a) -> a -> [b] -> [a] < 1326905101 914473 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((0:) . scanl (:) 1) < 1326905102 445162 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: t = [t] < 1326905130 137119 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/(:)/(+)/ < 1326905140 87755 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((0:) . scanl (+) 1) < 1326905141 493289 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946... < 1326905144 658359 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I always forget that one < 1326905478 564567 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t elem < 1326905479 95216 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Eq a) => a -> [a] -> Bool < 1326905686 336858 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326905688 324370 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1326905816 362061 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1326905829 854907 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you? < 1326905861 124442 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks the trick to artificial intelligence is to not determine what's true from a learned set of information, but to approximate what is true based on it.
< 1326905867 614997 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: good. < 1326905869 552619 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing math homework. < 1326905889 655008 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1326905910 831730 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :prime numbers and powersets and subsets and bleh < 1326905923 35934 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131DF6.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326905926 901698 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still on matrices... < 1326905951 460492 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :never took linear algebra < 1326905964 540787 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went Calc 1 -> Calc 2 -> discrete math -> intro to advanced math < 1326905971 758787 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have to take Calc 3 or linear algebra to satisfy my major. < 1326905980 558939 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just need those first three classes then any other math elective. < 1326905984 382767 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :School chooses modules... < 1326906001 355418 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, realizing that I suck at continuous math, decided to go toward the discrete proofy stuff. < 1326906007 648641 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :+I < 1326906038 430727 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though < 1326906050 750336 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am considering majoring in math as well as CS. < 1326906055 323229 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I may end up taking calc 3. < 1326906076 488845 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with me being a) British and b) still in High School < 1326906078 282346 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest most CS classes are a bit of a waste < 1326906085 792245 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: some of them yes < 1326906088 955791 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially software engineering < 1326906090 540632 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuugh. < 1326906097 571457 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am literally learning nothing < 1326906098 274561 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1326906101 52018 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would focus on math < 1326906105 172506 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to pretend I know things about the nothing that I just learned. < 1326906105 527217 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 has been in all of them, and look at his knowledge of lambda calculus < 1326906117 65899 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a degree :-s < 1326906127 172751 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im complicated < 1326906132 324699 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even have an A-level < 1326906137 86424 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe my country has a bad educational system < 1326906142 259219 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :help what does that mean Ngevd. < 1326906153 49413 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We get them aged 16-18 < 1326906163 706456 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, Australia, right? < 1326906168 122474 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would recommend to take the good CS subjects.. the ones which everyone fails :P < 1326906173 119658 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where my dad got educated < 1326906181 530140 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he did one of those < 1326906182 214123 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I failed a software engineering class < 1326906188 596325 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :operating systems and that other one < 1326906189 104920 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer organization < 1326906196 474758 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was probably one of the easier classes I can take < 1326906200 791090 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a lot of stupid mindless work < 1326906225 250990 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :however I got an A in data structures < 1326906231 722831 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and every other actual programming class I've taken. < 1326906234 864557 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1326906241 501613 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... i am not a good reference model of a student < 1326906265 74659 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect I'll also ace the fuck out of databases < 1326906281 1249 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to a class you know you'll ace won't help you grow, thats the problme < 1326906299 677228 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning about software engineering does not help you grow. it helps you maintain jobs or become a manager. < 1326906303 369894 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1326906306 889635 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I take math classes < 1326906310 582324 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will learn things. < 1326906339 93850 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess learning SWE could be helpful in structuring the /way/ you code. like, time management stuff. < 1326906347 3702 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to be more productive and all that. < 1326906369 740464 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... it's really not a very good field at the moment. it's basically like an extension to management that's focused on technology. < 1326906385 561565 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some subjects just don't get taught well < 1326906392 659585 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1326906401 309607 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :teaching is difficult < 1326906409 176573 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could learn them outside of university if you really wanted... but you would never get that motivation.. thats the catch < 1326906433 957661 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of masochist for example would study data flow diagrams in private < 1326906445 603125 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh those are easy. < 1326906450 354245 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :even kind of resemble algorithms almost. < 1326906455 844728 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lower level ones < 1326906464 989069 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the structural ones help you visualize a large project. < 1326906473 345147 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one thing that's not really too objectionable. < 1326906474 243612 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1326906481 661522 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes < 1326906485 333097 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't study them in private. :P < 1326906493 742281 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noone would :)) < 1326906499 212403 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only really twisted sick people < 1326906577 536750 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I still don't understand them < 1326906605 92305 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that its one of those things you have to use in practice to figure out < 1326906706 944706 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm.... also they often focus on imperative languages in classes < 1326906729 418213 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think its uncommon for CS to teach undergrad functional programming < 1326906760 737875 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this may depend on the school and country < 1326906789 133376 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: Quitte < 1326906861 163768 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its hard to explain educational systems country to country < 1326906908 126723 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my cousin is an Australian primary school teacher, maybe? < 1326906975 548543 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in australia it works like this. -1 = kindergarten. 0 = prep(atory) grade. 1 through 6 = primary school. 7 through 12 is secondary college/high school. 11 through 12 is HighSchoolCertificate/VictorianCertificateofEducation < 1326906990 227058 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the UK it varies place to place < 1326906994 503091 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that.. i dunno all the state by state differences < 1326907000 282330 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The system I used (which is one of the least common) is: < 1326907008 482272 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :R + 1-4 = First School < 1326907017 345439 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5-8 = middle school < 1326907023 476962 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :next what happens is people either go on to a degree at a University, or a diploma at a TAFE < 1326907025 801842 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 - 11 = High school < 1326907038 617341 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 - 13 = 6th form college / high school < 1326907041 207509 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from the diploma it can sometimes lead into a degree at a university < 1326907059 565933 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tafe is more hands on, much cheaper < 1326907059 865530 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beyond, uni < 1326907115 304227 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although its cheaper, tafe can sometimes provide a richer education :D < 1326907134 828609 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its very cool really < 1326907145 993375 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-161-147-186.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326907167 267342 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its sort of the left-wing side of tertiary < 1326907257 593613 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :#esoteric is closed to Americans for SOPA blackout day | Hey, American, I saw you talking, SHUT UP | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1326907269 23786 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326907307 982497 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned data structures at tafe.. and then when i went to uni i got hd cos my first teacher was really good < 1326907349 915976 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he drew it all on the whiteboard as boxes and arrows < 1326907362 910892 :werni!werni@84-74-156-194.dclient.hispeed.ch PART #esoteric :"Verlassend" < 1326907421 123981 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at uni, my teacher of computer organization and operating systems was cool but those classes were too tough for me. < 1326907446 590599 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be that i was very distracted in life at the time < 1326907504 587847 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were the only 2 classes which felt like serious CS.. in comp org we had to write an assembler or a linker for one assignment < 1326907522 244514 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-102.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1326907531 386480 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my thing wouldn't compile for him.. was kinda distressing < 1326907563 840004 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i remember caches were too much for me < 1326907607 510098 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how complex could a cache possibly be. i would have thought beforehand < 1326907758 280065 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have shape-taste synesthasia < 1326907796 965396 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow! < 1326907800 396007 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1326907829 16051 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1326907831 477974 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't be sure < 1326907839 723108 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fizzy water tastes round < 1326907840 11209 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1326907851 138586 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strawberries taste like stars < 1326907940 763722 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mix them do you get rounded stars? < 1326907948 860264 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never tried < 1326907965 369527 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I would get a circle and a star on-top of eachother < 1326907971 539211 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like captain America's shield? < 1326907976 997560 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you mix strawberries and sparkling water you're most likely to get another taste of your last meal. < 1326907991 76328 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ah i get it :) < 1326908001 269574 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a star enclosed by a circle < 1326908019 911677 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, different brands of fizzy water taste different < 1326908034 337630 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tesco Value is more... flat? than Buxton's < 1326908048 32595 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh they're 3d? < 1326908052 899846 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're 3D for some things < 1326908072 804170 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1326908086 449576 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable d < 1326908097 912859 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what does bacon taste like < 1326908108 325205 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't really eat much bacon < 1326908167 58882 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it tastes like a Great rhombidodecahedron < 1326908276 262602 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a nonconvex great rhombicosidodecahedron < 1326908302 67333 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also get headaches when I see sine curves < 1326908313 161207 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1326908328 649236 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Sine_and_Cosine.svg/400px-Sine_and_Cosine.svg.png < 1326908347 891729 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: click it. do it. < 1326908371 781655 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The background helps prevent them < 1326908387 285523 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really get serious headaches at all < 1326908650 937376 :erkin!~erkin@94.55.242.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326909216 811717 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-4.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1326909217 139571 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-4.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1326909217 300953 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1326909280 621048 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131DF6.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111220165912] < 1326909425 822651 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1326910036 835123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326910216 131201 :erkin!~erkin@94.55.242.32 PART #esoteric :"May your dreams last longer than your night." < 1326910456 259233 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1326911403 78876 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326911560 224149 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326911571 235960 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1326911608 674998 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326912119 934758 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Bit is a LBA < 1326912154 4831 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc1-sgyl29-2-0-cust632.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1326912159 59052 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc1-sgyl29-2-0-cust632.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1326912159 220967 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326912604 164670 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1326913931 866429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it's the snowtree season here finally. It's been really unsnowtreey so far. < 1326914265 216770 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-001-153.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1326914757 522944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: btw, i found another two ssh fanboys :D < 1326914798 246367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1326915179 288274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.ics.tkk.fi/htkallas/snowtree.jpg <- snowtree season. < 1326915232 146352 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1326915500 463085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's an "ssh fanboy" like? And is it related to the protocol, or the company, or some implementation? < 1326915590 316542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the entire ssh-related ecosystem, I think < 1326915610 994618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people who, say, remove all methods but ssh of accessing a public AceHack server < 1326915639 57221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1326915662 670661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's important that nethack sessions stay safe from prying eyes. < 1326915684 52600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it do support SSH? I didn't think e.g. NAO did. < 1326915689 631479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAO doesn't < 1326915700 673112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :acehack.eu (the server in question) supports only ssh; acehack.us supports both ssh and telnet < 1326915775 20999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not a bad idea to do both, I've been in places with outgoing telnet blocked. < 1326915976 8647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1326915990 250198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but having telnet on your server and then removing it because you're an ssh fanboy is a symptom of ssh fanboyism < 1326916046 456470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suggesting that every program that defines a network access protocol should base it on ssh is an even stronger one < 1326916113 741655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was imagining people camped outside SSH Communications's office on the off chance they might get to see a glance of Tatu Ylönen. < 1326916193 892763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1326916270 530963 :FireFly!firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1326916375 517082 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pondering about I/O. it is perhaps about inter-system communication. . o O ( must system a must modify itself to handle input from system b? ) or perhaps special systems exist to provide a common interface between systems < 1326916390 696373 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i overused the word systems < 1326916474 30037 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im super confused. back to SSH < 1326916710 747122 :FireFly!firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1326919481 69019 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326919821 868929 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1326920829 229475 :kallisti!~eris@h54.31.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326920829 492194 :kallisti!~eris@h54.31.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1326920829 654566 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1326921061 166709 :kallisti_!~eris@h54.31.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326921236 131241 :kallisti_!~eris@h54.31.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1326921760 578156 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1326922266 998281 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth is a structured, imperative, reflective, concatenative, extensible, stack-based computer programming language and programming environment. < 1326922274 96606 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :concatenative, eh? < 1326922311 875795 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Haskell is listed as concatenative. < 1326922319 505411 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to fit the definition < 1326922493 94080 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1326923352 54940 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1326923532 60509 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell if this is part of the SOPA blackout or not < 1326923532 538695 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.stationv3.com/d/20120118.html < 1326923559 576936 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only assume so < 1326923563 989066 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although not much of a blackout < 1326923639 52106 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326923938 981505 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1326924397 561634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silence in the Darkness of. < 1326924846 475903 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1326924951 450559 :cswords__!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326925021 698058 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@121-73-182-130.dsl.telstraclear.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326925021 897804 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@121-73-182-130.dsl.telstraclear.net QUIT :Changing host < 1326925021 897948 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1326925125 124441 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1326925175 812101 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1326925281 215085 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1326925570 480679 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1326925775 720432 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be cool if you could overwrite free variables in Haskell. < 1326925791 710066 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then a closure basically becomes a kind of record structure. < 1326925798 490649 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a = 5 in let a = 6 in a < 1326925799 498985 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1326925815 939817 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not quite what I meant < 1326925837 122851 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically something like implicit parameters. < 1326925918 70861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1326926015 278723 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1326926321 168339 :roper!~rod@95.169.240.142 QUIT :Quit: Abandonando < 1326926393 60575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1326926663 793320 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1326926864 637993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what things can const repsent besides a constant function and church encoded true. < 1326926886 430424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :church encoded any argumentless first constructor of two... < 1326926889 561663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. Nothing < 1326926909 385154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or [] < 1326926968 683314 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: makes sense. < 1326927162 792068 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither the question or the answer makes sense to me, but whatever floats your respective boats < 1326927199 262494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: when representing algebraic datatypes in pure lambda calculus, you use church encoding < 1326927228 452770 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I'm with you thus far < 1326927250 852570 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1326927252 143737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly realizes he cannot lookup which variant is which on wikipedia
< 1326927294 955318 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's best if you don't cheat and look up a wiki mirror < 1326927301 100262 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1326927312 759366 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will have more fun that way < 1326927332 72393 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you already disabled javascript in wikipedia's site-specific preferences in your browser? < 1326927372 255652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are two variants, one which implements constructors shallowly and one which does a full deep fold over the entire data structure. i think church is the latter. (only that makes sense for church numerals, anyway) < 1326927377 861666 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're, like... SOPA blackout noobs :) < 1326927417 108111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for argumentless constructors there is no difference. < 1326927419 817624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I have JS disabled for most sites but enabled for Wikipedia < 1326927426 445113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, I haven't needed to look something up there today < 1326927482 828473 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?banner=none < 1326927483 193721 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1326927485 811864 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the end of any URL < 1326927488 79922 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(almost) < 1326927505 405165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case a data structure with n constructors is implemented as a function taking n arguments, one for each constructor. and if the constructor no. i to be used itself takes no arguments, the function just returns the ith argument. < 1326927550 323851 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, doesn't look like the difference has a specific name ... wikipedia just give the example of coding a list as a church pair or as a right fold < 1326927566 392515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that all of True (well assuming that's first, which isn't the case in haskell but makes sense for if-then-else), Nothing and [] get implemented as \x y -> y, i.e. const < 1326927597 10675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hm i thought i saw a different name once < 1326927638 437963 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogensen–Scott_encoding perhaps? < 1326927692 2591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with full folding, a list l becomes implemented as \nil cons -> foldr cons nil l, but shallowly (x:xs) instead becomes \nil cons -> cons x xs < 1326927702 202858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: rings a bell < 1326927757 26427 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :too tired/lazy to figure out if that page describes something like a generalization of folds or is just a different church(ish) encoding < 1326927857 228944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1326927932 791611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was to ?banner=none) < 1326928005 137367 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326928040 60824 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1326928040 766824 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, I've been thinking about Portal Chess < 1326928052 835085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides to use the cheat so he can see today's page
< 1326928053 213593 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :White's DCannon opening isn't worth it < 1326928097 5229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose a blackout which geeks can avoid still hits basically all _intended_ targets :P < 1326928128 631648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed < 1326928132 980446 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is there an easier way to do it than blocking Javascript for the site? < 1326928154 294347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: ?banner=none At the end of any URL (almost) < 1326928164 295393 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1326928164 828725 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1326928214 51805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the mobile site. < 1326928234 258912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got a 'm.' somewhere in the URL. < 1326928265 831276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :en.m.wikipedia.org, I think. < 1326928272 633347 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: yes indeed I realized that as well. < 1326928275 641166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it looks a bit different. < 1326928295 953318 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: well < 1326928298 601475 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: kind of < 1326928302 378752 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not worth it to capture the pawn < 1326928303 201160 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1326928308 453507 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it blocks in the arrow < 1326928314 513220 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you move the pawn in front of the portal < 1326928317 101655 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I guess is fine. < 1326928334 512579 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1326928568 401588 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do Prisms do? < 1326928621 251404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1326928734 291617 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: ^^^ < 1326928876 901664 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1326928913 149675 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1326928917 274886 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1326929126 411936 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, what do prisms do? < 1326929156 726588 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1326929157 251096 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1326929237 93373 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: they're directionless arrows. when a /friendly/ projectile comes into contact with a prism the owner can choose which direction the projectile redirects. < 1326929243 816395 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :from that point the projectile is "focused" < 1326929255 691008 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and will capture any arrows it crosses. < 1326929281 434489 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, enemy projectiles will capture prisms. so I did lie previously, there is a concept of ownership of projectiles. < 1326929284 792969 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only for prisms. < 1326929296 606822 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently that's the... best idea I have for a queen piece. I don't know how I feel about it. < 1326929406 124112 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a quick, dodgily timed animation about my thoughts of the DCannon headshot-across-the-map gambit: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff508/Taneb/pchesslhcgambit-1.gif < 1326929443 33913 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: yes < 1326929445 495791 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what would happen < 1326929448 152986 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1326929476 902691 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326929490 351119 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think it through earlier. however that's a good opening move for other reasons. it gives you a fair degree of map control. you can place an arrow within the cannons path and gain a better angle < 1326929512 848106 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't capture the pawn. and be ready to defend against your opponent mirroring you < 1326929533 377520 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a quick, dodgily timed animation about my thoughts of the DCannon headshot-across-the-map gambit: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff508/Taneb/pchesslhcgambit-1.gif < 1326929612 761340 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DCannon? < 1326929617 857675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :best gambit name < 1326929619 516639 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, mixed up where I was < 1326929626 856376 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought I was in #MSPA < 1326929643 244542 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Portal Chess is quite balanced < 1326929643 423622 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Prisms need work, though < 1326929643 585209 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they split projectiles? < 1326929759 861407 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An easy mistake to make, Sgeo < 1326929762 679788 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:29 < Ngevd> Here's a quick, dodgily timed animation about my thoughts of the DCannon headshot-across-the-map gambit: < 1326929765 517389 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff508/Taneb/pchesslhcgambit-1.gif < 1326929768 170013 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:30 < kallisti> Ngevd: yes < 1326929770 634927 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:30 < kallisti> that's what would happen < 1326929786 429268 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: split them how? < 1326929786 590927 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lagged out, didn't know what I had sent < 1326929797 642678 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: you mean give them a direction and then have them split at an angle of some kind? < 1326929813 931907 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1326929814 984984 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? < 1326929825 557563 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main reason I made prisms kind of gross in terms of rules is because < 1326929826 607749 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently < 1326929831 890139 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :projectiles cannot kill arrows. < 1326929845 71077 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :without that prism rule. < 1326929856 211617 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes prisms an important piece... at the same time < 1326929862 280319 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1326929871 651642 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :being vulnerable to enemy projectiles makes it easy and costly to lose < 1326929872 682517 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1326929878 25144 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it very much works like a queen. < 1326929886 819572 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er..... see logs. :P < 1326929895 832064 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just pull up stalker mode since you're dc'ing so much. < 1326929898 645101 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :+should < 1326929920 267808 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-200.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1326930403 37005 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks Data.List should have a withWords that preserves whitespace.
< 1326930443 231765 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip Ngevd < 1326930673 612016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :groupBy ((==)`on`isSPace) "testing \t\n1 2 \n3\n" < 1326930679 737235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> groupBy ((==)`on`isSPace) "testing \t\n1 2 \n3\n" < 1326930680 668173 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `isSPace' < 1326930684 212184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1326930688 485363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> groupBy ((==)`on`isSpace) "testing \t\n1 2 \n3\n" < 1326930689 549859 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["testing"," \t\n","1"," ","2"," \n","3","\n"] < 1326930719 478572 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oooooh groupBy < 1326930723 56095 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think much about that. < 1326930729 217928 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot about it. < 1326930746 542397 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes that's a possibility, what I was considering though < 1326930756 192983 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that withWords f = unwords . f . words < 1326930756 897349 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1326930760 473051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little tricky since you can have space first or not < 1326930762 352757 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it preserves whitespace, which unwords does not. < 1326930775 982080 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because usually you want to ignore the space < 1326930780 689984 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and process the words < 1326930781 992725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: hm that would require it to preserve each word < 1326930789 604012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, total length < 1326930797 487181 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would? < 1326930815 929335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if f changes the length of the list, what then? < 1326930829 922592 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er I mean < 1326930836 609644 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :withWords f = unwords . map f . words < 1326930838 367817 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better < 1326930842 469730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1326930865 767942 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a bit more limited < 1326930868 405541 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't do things like: < 1326930874 567778 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords . reverse . words $ "what is this I don't even" < 1326930875 801118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "even don't I this is what" < 1326930922 873725 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case groupby is probably a better solution. you could add some kind of rule so that you can always determine which elements are spaces and which aren't < 1326930931 135490 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :by adding an empty string at the beginning on one of the cases.