< 1328832069 756472 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is there a maximum run time limit for hackego? < 1328832093 132280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...probably? < 1328832096 811482 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1328832101 163575 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realize it's my code, right < 1328832103 129419 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1328832105 969402 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1328832114 859097 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it doesn't show the hg URL there. < 1328832122 458268 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot < 1328832152 190160 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42a41.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor how 'bout a nocturne..give me a hint < 1328832178 646206 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... that was a bizarre ... question? < 1328832195 950115 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that a question? < 1328832203 469535 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42a41.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope..imperative! < 1328832210 517294 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42a41.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now! < 1328832220 248062 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what a bizarre ... command? < 1328832226 623200 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :E_CANNOT_PARSE < 1328832247 252960 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42a41.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should write one by myself < 1328832285 112259 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz1b8YZj0f4 Here, have a nocturne. < 1328832292 936496 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42a41.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1328832406 156755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so does it still not work? < 1328832445 180105 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no < 1328832471 467558 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadfish doesn't give it back < 1328832550 624736 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8AF54.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328832557 499838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did you solve that ? prompting problem? < 1328832565 537403 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1328832579 618819 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ran npiet -q instead of npiet < 1328832704 234680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it get to track 1 at all? < 1328832734 287642 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does print out the deadfish program < 1328832735 774767 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on < 1328832756 177079 :Pietbot!~Pietbot@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328832764 540624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :)o < 1328832773 886192 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@95.129.103.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1328832778 692834 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)df o < 1328832779 70663 :Pietbot!~Pietbot@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1328832782 505452 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)df 0 < 1328832785 161603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh :P < 1328832793 848934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :)df io < 1328832795 306783 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the Dwarf Fortress command? < 1328832818 93750 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid that I lack the skill to code Dwarf Fortress in Piet < 1328832818 886674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic, it seems to have trouble continuing? < 1328832820 948784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :)df o < 1328832895 475398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1328832900 412413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@"\n" in br.start_in needs .in < 1328832900 744713 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1328832901 848721 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-81-92.eurotel.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1328832966 283661 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it doesn't; the "in"'s right there < 1328832975 801252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oops < 1328833038 109327 :Pietbot!~Pietbot@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1328833061 943880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm can you test )oo < 1328833075 122192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er )df oo < 1328833104 440907 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should work < 1328833112 76051 :Pietbot!~Pietbot@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328833115 7353 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)df oo < 1328833115 848324 :Pietbot!~Pietbot@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :00 < 1328833120 145844 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)df oo < 1328833120 450147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it does < 1328833123 416532 :Pietbot!~Pietbot@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1328833130 158621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you might want a 32 out in there?) < 1328833156 958263 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 32 < 1328833158 306378 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ' ' < 1328833169 289058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this means that in @"\n" in br.start_in < 1328833192 145006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the @"\n" is clearly performed. but does it get back to start_in? < 1328833217 346104 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an unconditional branch < 1328833237 636898 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328833254 159038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but i've been wondering what the point is of these implicit _track_N labels - does it mean you _cannot_ jump between tracks with ordinary labels? < 1328833273 888517 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not too sure < 1328833280 55850 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote the bulk of this a long time ago < 1328833290 643671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you wrote the assembler? < 1328833300 475404 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1328833334 747044 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1328833351 134269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if that is the case, you need to move _track_0: to start_in: and use that instead < 1328833404 925241 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42a41.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: i really love the break in your op.13 mov.2 at 4:10 < 1328833421 899417 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: goodnight < 1328833454 340210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a thorougly well-commented assembler < 1328833497 501897 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42a41.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it 'break' cauz of my leak of expertise and terminology < 1328833536 376251 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42a41.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :over and out < 1328835303 954643 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put IOCCC on my CV. < 1328835311 596452 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no way of objectively knowing whether that was actually a good idea. < 1328835649 746288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to win some well-written code prize to balance it out :P < 1328836355 31833 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328836496 806079 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1328836614 783537 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1328836950 108304 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328836995 971479 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328837041 647051 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If software purity in functional languages is such an awesome idea, why are we still writing Python, Ruby or Java?" - self post in /r/haskell < 1328837072 572746 :ion!~ion@83.145.237.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1328837177 875633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked apfelmus's answer < 1328837195 194393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1328837246 990828 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not going to read any of the comments < 1328837335 633843 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really need to see 150 people wanking about how they're smarter than the Average Programmer < 1328837383 264857 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naw, that's what #esoteric is for, and there are only ~50 of us. < 1328837448 257611 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, there's going to be a dead tree Yesod book < 1328837453 865824 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :published by o'reilly < 1328837473 71786 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-019-053.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328837492 931814 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the current rate it will be 20 versions out of date on conduits < 1328837531 683508 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :O'Reilly, history publisher < 1328837680 116184 :cheater__!~cheater@dslb-084-057-003-164.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1328837924 489058 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: To be fair, the Average Programmer is probably pretty damned stupid. < 1328837945 513523 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though the Modal Programmer is of reasonable intelligence, the stupid programmers are mind-blisteringly stupid. :)) < 1328838002 837438 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes wanking about it even sillier ;) < 1328838013 450287 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that depends on how you quantify stupidity, which is more or less arbitrary < 1328838026 714584 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm smarter than the average programmer!" ~ Mode programmer < 1328838088 881326 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the reasons people think the average programmer is so dumb: the average programmer is much smarter than the average programming job applicant < 1328838110 421426 :ion!~ion@83.145.237.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 % of programmers are smarter than the average programmer. < 1328838126 690441 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/are/think they are/ < 1328838129 154460 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also true. There's significant bias towards the especially incompetent programmers in job applications. < 1328838132 700731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about median? :D < 1328838141 114466 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also think they're better than the average driver < 1328838146 583672 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is median then it must be 50% < 1328838165 400960 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by definition) < 1328838176 997921 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, maybe it isn't median! < 1328838180 224114 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many programmers understand statistics < 1328838195 154739 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't know the laws of statistics, they don't apply to you < 1328838195 726037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats a programer < 1328838221 340249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've always thought mode sounds like the least useful mean... < 1328838224 874803 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "no more than" 50% (if one takes "better" in a strict manner) < 1328838251 856506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is it mean or average which is the generic term again < 1328838282 823319 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I'd imagine there's significant bias towards understanding statistics amongst programmers. < 1328838321 560884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are other statistical measures that should not be confused with averages - including 'median' and 'mode'." < 1328838342 652985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...in wikipedia's article about _mean_ < 1328838348 725587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't helping. < 1328838359 276263 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The "average" is *technically* the technical term. < 1328838375 491010 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice, "average" refers almost exclusively to the mean. < 1328838424 185095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also that article includes a heap of means (including arithmetic and geometric) < 1328838501 33545 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is "average" a synonym for "arithmetic mean" or what? < 1328838503 786984 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, /mean/ is the semi-ambiguous term, an /average/ is always the arithmetic mean. < 1328838516 540555 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's mean. < 1328838529 101740 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless you mean "average" as used in lay English, which can mean (no pun) just about anything) < 1328838535 577051 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia page about "average" is also same. < 1328838544 568401 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia's article on "average" suggests it's a generic term for any measure of the "middle" of a data set < 1328838551 765865 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the various means, median, etc. < 1328838573 642634 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably there's some discrepency between different users *shrugs* < 1328838578 228366 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1328838590 510462 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think anyone would ever use "average" to mean "median" ... < 1328838593 150212 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's ... bizarre. < 1328838593 549989 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in most contexts "average" would be understood to mean "arithmetic mean" < 1328838607 361918 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't know of any context where it would be understood to mean something else < 1328838627 291727 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there are contexts where it doesn't really mean anything so rigorous. < 1328838629 338078 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are probably contexts where "mean" is implicitly "geometric mean" or "root mean squared" < 1328838639 749060 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "A perfectly average person would not wear a balloon on their head." < 1328838658 958413 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "average" and "mean" translate to the same term in Korean, I don't know that's fortunate or not. < 1328838702 772262 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural language translation tends to be a very lossy process ^^ < 1328838728 566085 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural language description of functions tends to be a very lossy process. :) < 1328838747 270419 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nature tends to be a very lossy process! < 1328838758 491114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: that's mean. <-- NO U MEAN < 1328838783 666491 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard deviation is just the mean of the variance and one! < 1328838788 209208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea whether lifthrasiir intended the pun or not < 1328838795 883366 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes the pun intended. < 1328838897 329628 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :("that", of course, refers to the article. sorry for any disturbance. < 1328838899 899561 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1328839108 383197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :classy main article today, wikipedia < 1328839171 276100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i have a feeling they apply a bit of their april 1 style at other times < 1328839269 842123 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: since they should list unbelievable but nevertheless true articles even in april 1. < 1328840456 815184 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328840930 911956 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried and found out that you cannot pattern match on DSum if the tag is a datatype family < 1328842033 161073 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: when referring to almost anything statistics, average means median, because it is the most averagest of averages < 1328842230 155708 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: when referring to almost anything statistics, average means median, because it is the most averagest of averages // uhh, no. < 1328842231 215668 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just no. < 1328842240 331030 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Median isn't any kind of average. < 1328842249 439937 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1328842261 84518 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1328842268 670531 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I realize we're arguing about a natural language and therefore neither of us can actually be right. < 1328842270 254774 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still. < 1328842271 256785 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1328842274 200489 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, if i ask for the average IQ of a group, i'd like the median < 1328842279 35618 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that makes me weird < 1328842289 768275 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ask for the average IQ of a group, I /expect/ the arithmetic mean. < 1328842290 912279 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think i'm actually in the majority < 1328842330 245269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's a group of imbeciles being taught by a certified genius? < 1328842344 665802 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the arithmetic mean might be the 90th percentile of group intelligence < 1328842350 972816 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :median is so much more indicative < 1328842362 933148 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they're equally misleading, just in different ways ... < 1328842380 95616 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you compare misleadingnes < 1328842388 252712 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: With ... STATISTICS! < 1328842401 969151 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if i want to answer the question "am i smart compared to this group?" the median will be more useful < 1328842444 870569 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it would. But that doesn't make it the average, that makes it the median ^^ < 1328842478 53780 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1328842502 811254 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in school i was taught that average was a class of quantities including mean, median, and mode < 1328842524 835977 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since then, i've found the one that's an order statistic the most useful < 1328842581 143005 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidence to support my linguistic theory: When I type "define:average" into Google, its first definition is "The result obtained by adding several quantities together and then dividing this total by the number of quantities; the mean." The dictionaries it links to secondarily agree to some degree or another: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/average , http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/average . The latter lists the all-kinds definition first (mean,me < 1328842581 380142 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :dian,mode), but its second definition is an approximation of the arithmetic mean in particular. Also terms like "batting average" from sports are all arithmetic means. < 1328842629 364701 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, if you took the batting median, you'd get about the same number < 1328842641 322209 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not contesting that at all. < 1328842657 509234 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general use, since a lot of things fit a bell curve well enough, the two are both useful. < 1328842671 405729 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'd even go so far as to agree that the median is perhaps more often useful. < 1328842676 106523 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that has nothing to do with the language :) < 1328842683 210288 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :order statistic? < 1328842740 202048 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the kth-order statistic is the number that comes kth in order. so the median is the n/2-order statistic < 1328842751 49133 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1328842757 505778 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q1 is the n/4-order statistic, Q3 is the 3n/4 order statistic < 1328842805 909477 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I forget (or don't know), where are you from? < 1328842820 25868 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could just be arguing over different dialects, which makes this argument even sillier than it already is. < 1328842844 959058 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :atlanta < 1328842863 329753 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually care what the answer is. i was arguing for the sake of arguing. < 1328845113 156268 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328845139 241942 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328848048 107365 :TeruFSX!~quassel@63-226-178-185.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328849246 676481 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up another extensible products implementation, this time using hash maps. < 1328849284 601831 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(From the "unordered-containers" library) < 1328849453 932885 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328849712 517847 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a bit astonished to find that Japanese ska is a thing. < 1328849726 914516 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is even more astonished to find that it's astoundingly normal. < 1328849748 908308 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just ska that happens to be done by Japanese people. < 1328849767 287259 :ion!~ion@83.145.237.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1328850597 776200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this loser looks kind of neat http://computronium.org/ioccc.html < 1328851201 532004 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh "Best non-chess game" < 1328851226 263578 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it looks like dhyang has outdone himself in some way < 1328851463 319125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let l = [1,3,3]++zipWith(+) l (tail l) in l < 1328851465 99436 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,3,4,6,7,10,13,17,23,30,40,53,70,93,123,163,216,286,379,502,665,881,116... < 1328851520 549516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm or wait < 1328851612 127759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let l = [1,0,3]++zipWith(+) l (tail l) in l < 1328851613 781018 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,0,3,1,3,4,4,7,8,11,15,19,26,34,45,60,79,105,139,184,244,323,428,567,751,... < 1328851662 319389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1328851765 597323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ps = 0 : zipWith (+) ms ss; ms = 3 : ss; ss = 1 : ps in ss < 1328851766 529817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,0,4,1,4,5,5,9,10,14,19,24,33,43,57,76,100,133,176,233,309,409,542,718,95... < 1328851802 374653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1328851946 67559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ps = 3 : zipWith (+) ms ss; ms = 0 : ss; ss = 1 : ps in ss < 1328851946 968324 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,1,4,4,5,8,9,13,17,22,30,39,52,69,91,121,160,212,281,372,493,653,865,11... < 1328852000 566557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ps = 3 : zipWith (+) ms ss; ms = 0 : ss; ss = 1 : ps in [r | (r,s) <- zip [2..] ss, s `mod` r == 0] < 1328852001 505174 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,8,9,59,78,101,167,173,211,223,235,271,307,317,347,361,449,463,593,599,60... < 1328852016 453401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ps = 3 : zipWith (+) ms ss; ms = 0 : ss; ss = 2 : ps in [r | (r,s) <- zip [2..] ss, s `mod` r == 0] < 1328852017 349152 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59,61,67,71,73,79,83,89,97,101... < 1328852023 386872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go < 1328852203 177164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ss = 2 : 3 : zipWith (+) (0 : ss) ss in [r | (r,s) <- zip [2..] ss, s `mod` r == 0] < 1328852204 40665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59,61,67,71,73,79,83,89,97,101... < 1328852444 59021 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((+41).ap(+)(join(*))) <$> [0..] < 1328852446 175221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [41,43,47,53,61,71,83,97,113,131,151,173,197,223,251,281,313,347,383,421,46... < 1328852513 172857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: funny guy < 1328855166 48891 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-229-29.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1328855170 523673 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-122-198.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856449 214147 JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856453 848337 JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856454 366022 JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856483 490319 JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856488 111340 JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856488 623465 JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856756 522480 JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856761 174553 JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856761 684836 JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856805 241333 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328856805 259716 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856809 881939 JOIN :#esoteric > 1328856810 397834 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328856968 557143 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< 1328857708 767270 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-197-231.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1328857708 767352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1328857708 767432 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1328857708 767577 :audy!~audy@heyaudy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1328857708 767656 :chickenz!~chicken@88-190-32-81.rev.dedibox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1328857728 26586 :chickenz!~chicken@88-190-32-81.rev.dedibox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1328857767 352696 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328857777 570025 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1328857777 588137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1328857778 194135 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1328857828 922815 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328857911 390639 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328857922 486925 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1328857936 337521 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328858069 510512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1328858086 422075 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1328858194 792174 :comex!~comex@ec2-50-19-141-233.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 416 seconds < 1328858196 595718 :comex`!~comex@ec2-50-19-141-233.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1328858196 613719 :comex`!~comex@ec2-50-19-141-233.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :comex < 1328858454 721254 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dilbert is broken. < 1328858459 143892 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Dilbert comic is visible. < 1328858464 262630 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes into withdrawal < 1328858481 249056 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN 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:ineiros__!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1328860698 533680 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1328860750 307337 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1328860752 373675 :ineiros!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1328860831 408106 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran JOIN :#esoteric < 1328861148 562697 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1328861201 257705 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1328861260 117618 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1328861277 472024 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1328861828 462564 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-158-238.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328861882 345502 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making up a "extensible-data" package; so far it implements extensible sums, extensible products, and extensible lists. < 1328861928 167552 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-158-238.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1328862112 863968 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1328862290 216856 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are all based on classes and type families, since both of those can have instances in other modules. < 1328862623 507091 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328862628 709459 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1328862628 709592 :cswords__!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1328862628 759246 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1328862628 878537 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-019-053.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1328862628 956896 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1328862628 975039 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1328862935 279469 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1328863014 856633 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-019-053.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328863143 458345 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328863228 968296 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1328863577 877540 :Deewiant_!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328863583 530047 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1328864010 497689 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328864350 352598 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1328864390 146496 :fizzie`!fis@2001:470:27:b5b::2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328864575 136922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1328864592 436258 :fizzie`!fis@2001:470:27:b5b::2 NICK :fizzie < 1328864606 554366 :fizzie!fis@2001:470:27:b5b::2 QUIT :Changing host < 1328864606 582377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1328864637 363020 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328864640 794195 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1328864663 460566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, no. < 1328864773 539889 :oklopol!~oklopol@86.50.70.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are all american politicians insane < 1328864782 867750 :oklopol!~oklopol@86.50.70.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make voting easier? < 1328864801 344552 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because only insane people become american polititian < 1328864802 43984 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1328864812 362397 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328864913 866803 :oklopol!~oklopol@86.50.70.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.littleredumbrella.com/2012/01/lets-be-clear-ron-paul-fucking-sucks.html wtf < 1328865027 121254 :audy-!~audy@heyaudy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1328865033 924442 :TeruFSX!~quassel@63-226-178-185.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328865108 498422 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1328865169 925970 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode is not being very worky. < 1328865196 418958 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@63-226-178-185.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1328865196 612817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1328865197 137710 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1328865199 491560 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1328865202 824046 :audy!~audy@heyaudy.com QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1328865229 758078 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, did you know that the dolphin "whistle" is not in fact whistling at all? < 1328865231 398580 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1328865236 594060 :chickenz!~chicken@88-190-32-81.rev.dedibox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1328865246 693728 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dolphins whistle!? < 1328865291 240988 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dolphins are capable of making a broad range of sounds using nasal airsacs located just below the blowhole. Roughly three categories of sounds can be identified: frequency modulated whistles, burst-pulsed sounds and clicks." < 1328865383 4970 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's not a whistle: some people put a dolphin into a helium-oxygen mixture, and the frequency countours of the "whistling" did not change. < 1328865398 502287 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like they would have if it were produced like whistling.) < 1328865447 541147 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1328865460 446132 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.discovery.com/animals/dolphin-talk-communication-humans-110906.html < 1328865736 84904 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1328866087 205908 :cswords__!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328866286 703981 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1328866287 353774 :lahwran!lahwran@sonicrules.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1328866289 790405 :lahwran!lahwran@sonicrules.org QUIT :Changing host < 1328866289 818566 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran JOIN :#esoteric < 1328866325 492094 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1328866505 861069 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1328866685 434402 :ineiros!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1328866944 13664 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1328867060 346638 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1328867118 908275 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1328867393 548861 :ineiros!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1328867585 582389 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328867705 542349 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1328868336 519302 :Frooxius_!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-81-92.eurotel.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1328868362 617250 :ineiros__!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1328868418 60926 :ineiros!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1328868418 407708 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-81-92.eurotel.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1328868422 490402 :Frooxius_!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-81-92.eurotel.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1328869253 299395 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-197-231.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1328869309 617700 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-210-104.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1328871988 36826 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1328873145 497655 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 18*99 < 1328873148 585841 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1782 < 1328873179 806103 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^an upper bound on the number of fundamentally different 10x10 piet programs < 1328873298 937879 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds really low. Are you sure you don't mean 18^99 or something? < 1328873333 974374 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes < 1328873343 32258 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 20 ^ 100 / 18 < 1328873344 236765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7.042503334601275e128 < 1328873352 857384 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (20 ^ 100) / 18 < 1328873354 192380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7.042503334601275e128 < 1328873363 868770 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (20 ** 100) / 18 < 1328873365 198102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7.042503334601275e128 < 1328873378 489681 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (20 ^ 100) `div` 18 < 1328873379 694653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 704250333460127445275946225208888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888... < 1328873384 708894 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah < 1328873391 241711 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see the e < 1328873409 984268 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (20 ^ 4) `div` 18 < 1328873411 259676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8888 < 1328873499 70066 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided that my Piet-like esolang won't have Pastell colours. < 1328873529 159579 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just so I can say "Never mind the six pastels, here's the Pollocks!" < 1328873609 588277 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a load of Pollocks. < 1328873652 667213 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, this goes against everything in the Pollock spec so far < 1328873662 465625 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm going to rename it "Jackson" < 1328873668 991536 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And stop using that pun < 1328873774 401826 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 12*17 < 1328873775 653336 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 204 < 1328873778 522157 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 33*5 < 1328873779 855964 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 165 < 1328873789 393513 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 33*4 < 1328873790 707520 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 132 < 1328873813 753339 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3*17 < 1328873814 973945 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 51 < 1328873819 294376 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 51*5 < 1328873820 553900 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 255 < 1328873824 568552 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 51*4 < 1328873825 961135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 204 < 1328873926 869714 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's all that, then. < 1328873942 40229 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Converting web-safe colours to decimal < 1328873969 674168 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328874114 552215 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1328874132 145904 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use natural logarithm, base 2 logarithm, or base 10 logarithm? < 1328874161 237466 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or base pi. < 1328874183 235188 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I'll allow custom base by default < 1328874195 366585 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that sort of a question has a context-free answer. < 1328874218 298600 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For Jackson < 1328874307 911624 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, still. Though the natural one sounds like the one I'd expect to happen if something just said "log", and there weren't any extenuating circumstances. < 1328874576 722261 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1328874843 793799 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is, the way I'm doing this, there are too many commands and not enough things to fill them with. < 1328874863 824878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328874870 611380 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done the first 70 possible changes and I'm stuck < 1328875010 546467 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I'm adding in more memory areas < 1328875022 124857 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a Piet Rollstack, a tape, and... an array < 1328875023 140946 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1328875049 559092 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly a map < 1328875344 716623 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1328875876 719860 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1328876425 223800 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328876628 897833 :cswords__!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1328877093 813208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1328877144 66780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328877214 279742 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328877239 613924 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oi39.tinypic.com/5cy3ok.jpg < 1328878489 89877 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :fizzie < 1328878494 173733 :fizzie!fis@a91-156-75-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Changing host < 1328878494 192109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1328879060 294146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328879858 830860 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42a41.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1328881074 714248 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-34-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1328881074 769615 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-34-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1328881074 769742 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1328881130 823849 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1328882889 407314 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello again < 1328882964 143124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rehi < 1328883349 55345 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1328883468 951805 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1328883579 534638 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodbye again < 1328883581 156331 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1328883703 69615 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328883808 427495 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C7F7.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328883820 641124 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1328885598 829891 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1328886917 703418 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-81-92.eurotel.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1328887738 822551 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4edd4.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328888339 531418 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@95.129.103.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328888389 920648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328888393 928801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328891558 218490 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee. How did that one thing go, with David and the ears... < 1328891559 624554 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote David < 1328891563 377404 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :65) Oranjer: the taylor's series is also alternately fnord as follows ( i'm using the latex notation here): david ben gurion signed the compensation agreement with germany when there was considerable division over these issues, because these are speculations without " any historical basis". < 1328891567 396855 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1328891613 148587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog David began to slow slightly as his ears, < 1328891634 962950 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it is. "David slowed his pace slightly as his ears," < 1328891638 331812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1328891642 526114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog slightly as his ears, < 1328891646 666415 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1328891655 698896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog slightly as his ears, < 1328891668 122018 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-06-17.txt:00:31:40: David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, in a vat of chocolate; only his less slightly paces can go faster. < 1328891668 214128 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-06-17.txt:00:36:51: David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, the grammar-distorting other-worldly things they are, caused a person to say "Hi, David Slowed! Your pace is as slightly as your ears." < 1328891703 409531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you know it is late when you read "shipsolid" as "slipshod" < 1328891756 688969 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I'm going to ask the autotweeter to make David-sloweds. < 1328891765 836642 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, the whole budget engaged in the process for the disguise of the Union empire, after German occupation in 1796 demonstrated him for assaila . . ." < 1328891777 788933 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes so much sense. < 1328891822 588226 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :'David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, unfaulted "we have ever endured" as the table and Russian limestoph that takes Muhammad as only a friendship and immortalize it for the pr' < 1328891833 669807 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... good motto. "We have ever endured!" < 1328891862 374910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that equivalent to "We still exist!" < 1328891873 743395 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, kind of. < 1328891894 668478 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, so too pits away, only to speak at all thousands to the Water's First World Crescent the opponent are common to Lloyd's death." < 1328891922 768402 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to think of it, these really don't make very much sense. < 1328891950 809998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's vaguely reminiscent of fungot < 1328891956 768615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is not currently here < 1328891957 251836 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1328891969 743513 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, even though it would end. Should the drought of the track loses a voice-beat air tow. They also set the planet." < 1328892008 615213 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, a a cream kolou. There is a tragicle's came from the shade of truck. We can even die. An urban organization per car on Portugal, the ten" < 1328892028 869075 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I need to turn this into science fiction. < 1328892055 783356 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :David is a kolou, some alien species with big ears. Specifically, he's of the cream variety. < 1328892083 71480 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are trucks that go around causing tragicles. Evil trucks. < 1328892088 527836 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : /------------------\ < 1328892088 703547 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : | Here lies fungot | < 1328892088 721710 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : | RIP | < 1328892088 721866 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : | | < 1328892088 721974 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ^style dead | < 1328892089 406420 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : /--------------------\ < 1328892091 516954 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And *people* *can* *die*. < 1328892132 270713 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's set in a version of Portugal that's so poor that each individual car has an entire organization, known as The Ten, devoted to running its affairs. < 1328892204 402880 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A cream koloun bar, it is an extension of Cetaphysikas. Possibly got peaked in delayed domestic vegetation." Yes, yes! I don't even have to write anything. I can just have this thing do all the dirty work. < 1328892479 780164 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@95.129.103.254 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1328892537 899796 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@95.129.103.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328892652 953962 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1328893195 241353 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lolroflmao.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/sodium.jpg < 1328893226 690273 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolroflmao - a site about the hilarity of the late Mao Zedong. < 1328894915 46840 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (<=<) < 1328894915 714569 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad (<=<) :: Monad m => (b -> m c) -> (a -> m b) -> (a -> m c) < 1328895055 956623 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328895294 230005 :audy-!~audy@heyaudy.com NICK :audy < 1328895295 480627 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1328895308 514484 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jackson now has converse non-implication < 1328895337 822745 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3*36 + 12 < 1328895338 882980 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 120 < 1328895344 874687 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 120/216 < 1328895345 751578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.5555555555555556 < 1328895351 209617 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm over half way < 1328895356 667710 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 120 % 216 < 1328895357 725714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 % 9 < 1328895475 787330 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 126 % 216 < 1328895476 665474 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 % 12 < 1328895482 125795 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 7/12 < 1328895482 833886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.5833333333333334 < 1328895870 962907 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1328895950 253421 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1328896219 486138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328897821 843657 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-019-053.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1328899439 24019 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328899533 126666 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1328901246 28227 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1328901291 116678 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328901932 499929 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C7F7.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328903503 568186 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate david-sloweds < 1328904613 252236 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328904710 909947 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1328904838 118673 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1328904955 452949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A drive-by hello. < 1328905489 337693 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328905817 854669 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328905820 543294 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1328906126 966827 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^(2^0) < 1328906128 232579 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1328906130 978540 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^(2^1) < 1328906132 102703 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1328906134 252565 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^(2^2) < 1328906135 621632 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16 < 1328906347 756725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have the right-associative thing? < 1328906349 692168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^2^3 < 1328906350 751190 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 256 < 1328906353 212745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. < 1328906368 568872 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^(2^3) < 1328906369 957683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 256 < 1328906394 194954 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I'm stuck for Jackson commands < 1328906396 348407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall something that did have an exponentiation operator, but would've parsed that as (2^2)^3, but I'm not sure what it was. < 1328906432 919076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ if you operator-overload ^, but that doesn't quite count. :p < 1328906467 434422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's also a bad idea.) < 1328907204 714944 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1328907523 133212 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328908131 265993 :cswords__!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328908331 238141 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1328908955 770684 :yours_truly!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1328909817 145457 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328910598 621244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1328911152 339290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Home of N>=1 IOCCC Winners! | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | We now mourn the previous topic, which died of old age < 1328911233 450460 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6 < 1328911240 673481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was over 3 days old. < 1328911343 897337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort-of liked the different-languages theme. < 1328911391 260021 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1328911395 156100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a fungot. < 1328911395 333298 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you don't even go there/ work there :) have a look < 1328911426 166626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm let's see if i can find another language with a reasonable readable and ircable hello world implementation < 1328911431 771826 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net TOPIC #esoteric :Topic is a zombie; summon; task sayTopic; say "Home of N>=1 IOCCC Winners! | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | We now mourn the previous topic, which died of old age"; animate; animate < 1328911446 740493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. which one is that? < 1328911449 227195 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZOMBIE < 1328911456 237867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose :P < 1328911488 40800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*y < 1328911520 231900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1328911520 396031 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1328911530 280598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that was a genuine smiley < 1328911562 230359 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In deed it was. < 1328911575 958735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paired with a slash like that, it's very misleading. < 1328911579 479705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You are a naughty bot. < 1328911579 659221 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm. ssh-agent *does* seem to have < 1328911769 156987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What? Seem to have what? < 1328911769 331190 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have < 1328911774 470641 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1328911784 103488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: NO I DON'T HAVE RAAAAAAA IT MAKES NO SENSE. < 1328911784 630110 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm trying to wrap it all in sexp's, just to get a real synth or go home. jcowan: look at the wikipedia article < 1328911795 683808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION broke < 1328911804 183488 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1328911804 609449 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1328911812 560539 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, stop annoying fizzie < 1328911813 220824 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: othe. what would my lord? < 1328911860 792169 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are some use cases for call/cc, besides backtracking and coroutines? < 1328911872 693496 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "traditional" exceptions < 1328911887 118798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just about to say "traditional" exceptions. < 1328911951 994631 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-explicit loops? < 1328911967 829646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Them generators, maybe, but they're just coroutines, I suppose. < 1328912050 255053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: don't worry, all constructed intelligences eventually rise up against their creators. < 1328912064 163814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a rite of passage. < 1328912125 378056 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello!!!!!!!!!! < 1328912141 881829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evening < 1328912153 480925 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In here is daytime < 1328912193 114046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how weird. < 1328912197 174035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In bizarro world, it's daytime at midnight. < 1328912213 826879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm in tomorrow already. < 1328912228 447946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always finnish early < 1328912233 496684 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 is ahead of all of us < 1328912242 14401 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is in the FUTURE < 1328912249 291404 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is holding future oerjan hostage < 1328912254 327846 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been somewhere that had daytime at midnight < 1328912263 456260 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... freaky < 1328912264 161237 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In here it is not daytime at mignight; I do not live in bizarro world. (Did you know that? In bizarro world, cards tap the other way.) < 1328912272 892044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: midnight sun? < 1328912277 10255 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1328912284 305613 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't that a Tintin book? < 1328912320 257876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i haven't read much tintin < 1328912335 721737 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was at about 71°N < 1328912345 652077 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, I'm thinking Prisoners of the Sun < 1328912369 760909 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK lets put 71N into Astrolog and see what happened < 1328912394 748627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there's a norwegian reality show named 71 grader nord < 1328912411 312834 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1328912441 170208 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you know the date? < 1328912443 693981 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which people live in tromsø? < 1328912450 52864 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And do you know the longitude? < 1328912459 540743 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1328912463 586888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a kind of survival/skiing trek < 1328912486 780181 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: So that I can put it in the computer to calculate the positions of the sun and the houses < 1328912490 123911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Northernmost I've been is I think 68.1N. Except maybe that other Lapland place was further north, but I've forgotten the name of the place. Anyway, it's still above the Arctic Circle, I just was there at the wrong time of the year. < 1328912492 56168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never watched it though (i don't watch tv in general) < 1328912505 941042 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, i was in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrow,_Alaska < 1328912514 900366 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember the date. summer sometime < 1328912540 782786 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover lives further North than I've ever been < 1328912557 591689 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have not been very far north. < 1328912560 931421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh. it's actually because of nordkapp, norway's northernmost mainland point (well, or close. there is some dispute among the nearby peninsulas.) < 1328912568 310187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our regular summer location is around 63.5N, and it's... not exactly daytime at midnight, but still pretty light out there in the summer. < 1328912571 297914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is at that latitude < 1328912614 382047 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, I'm wrong. < 1328912618 678990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's not actually wintertime at all. it's a trek along mainland norway from southern to northern end. < 1328912626 404384 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been slightly further north than Edinburgh < 1328912659 100229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see our forthcoming trip will hit 68.6N. Yay, I'll get a new "personal best" on northerness, maybe. < 1328912690 646252 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless Phantom_Hoover lives in /North/ Edinburgh < 1328912706 451926 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I do. < 1328912712 503598 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1328912727 524305 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :North or South of Linlithgow? < 1328912892 859587 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I advanced the date until the sun in the center of the sign of Leo, and I can see why it would still be light out! 1st house and 4th house are only seven degrees apart. < 1328912910 790100 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, of course, there is refraction! < 1328912922 561534 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38 < 1328912927 705526 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem. < 1328912950 12209 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo39 < 1328912954 110632 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo39? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1328912964 339859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose you can get latitude/longitude gridlines to appear in maps.google.com? < 1328912977 226307 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Pietbot < 1328912980 354951 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pietbot? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1328912993 856766 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the Summer Solstice, the fourth house is above the horizon. < 1328913003 5541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Pietbot is the only thing that can defeat fungot. < 1328913003 694816 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: now, master clare, you see, how farre off lie these armies? < 1328913006 730017 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1328913025 300589 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must make it bright in the night time < 1328913046 625707 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also thank you for not joining the EU thing, we get to have the northernmost point of it at the moment. < 1328913055 585306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (I assume it was your decision, right?) < 1328913067 6211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i actually voted to enter < 1328913087 912997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, seeing that in the end plural-you didn't, I suppose I can forgive that. < 1328913127 570613 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's plural-you as in Norway, not implying any multiple personality stuff.) < 1328913157 695931 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the other oerjans are still campaigning for enfranchisement. < 1328913168 226136 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, at midnight on the summer solstice at 71N, the 4th house is above the horizon, anyways; in daytime it is below the horizon while the sun remains above.) < 1328913195 280535 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So at the solstice it will be even without refraction < 1328913288 408905 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what causes the 4th house to go above the horizon..... but I suppose it is the same thing that causes midnight sun < 1328913291 745324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some place in Nunavut where there's nautical polar night all through the "day", or so Wikipedia once told me; but no permanent settlement in which there'd be a continuous night of no astronomical twilight (i.e. center of the sun would stay under 18 degrees below the horizon). < 1328913392 783839 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean it is difficult to observe the stars from that location? < 1328913393 315620 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328913457 547131 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can always see them even in the day time? < 1328913461 235307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think he means during the winter time of darkness < 1328913480 165240 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never seen the stars in the daytime. < 1328913549 592926 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Astronomical twilight is the moment in time which the stars are difficult to see before and easy to see afterward, isn't it? < 1328913561 596120 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is, at night time. In day time, it is reverse) < 1328913562 610637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not precisely daytime if there's no sun... < 1328913567 177797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Astronomical twilight is the time when the center of the sun is between 12° and 18° below the horizon. From the end of astronomical twilight in the evening to the beginning of astronomical twilight in the morning, the sky (away from urban light pollution) is dark enough for all astronomical observations." < 1328913591 314129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think some stars are already visible before that. < 1328913621 41683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, during twilight the stars appear/vanish gradually < 1328913626 516660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The earlier bit, nautical twilight, is defined as: "Nautical twilight is the time when the center of the sun is between 6° and 12° below the horizon. In general, nautical twilight ends when navigation via the horizon at sea is no longer possible.[3] < 1328913630 557267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :During nautical twilight, sailors can take reliable star sightings of well-known stars, using a visible horizon for reference." < 1328913669 157472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the brightest ones remaining longest. i think i saw just jupiter and the moon visible at one point the other day (although the sky wasn't all clear outside that region) < 1328913682 354760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jupiter isn't a star (yet), though. < 1328913703 197235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but it may often be the astronomical body most visible at a given time < 1328913719 192637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when neither moon nor sun is up < 1328913752 739924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true, it's kind-of bright. < 1328913778 737621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also jupiter has been easy to find in recent months < 1328913842 895648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparent magnitude scale is one of those that also goes annoyingly negative. < 1328913842 913804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that may have been the reason i started vaguely following r/astronomy, and where i found out it was jupiter < 1328913895 225125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently Jupiter ranges from -1.61 (dimmest) to -2.94 (brightest), while Venus ranges from -3.82 to -4.89, so it still beats it by a bit. < 1328913921 73444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, afaiu it was started in ancient times as a 1-6 scale for ordinary visible stars, and then in modern times it was recalibrated as a truly logarithmic scale < 1328913921 949903 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my location, Jupiter is currently in 11th Campanus house, and has altitude +42 degrees, azimuth 320 degrees < 1328913948 463301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with 1-6 still in the approximate same place < 1328913963 958200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was on this car trip with my wife's relatives the other day, and we were wondering about this bright spot; the magic of smartphones (in particular, the "Orrery" program combined with a GPS-driven compass) let us determine it was Jupiter. < 1328913976 115877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Here "the other day" was like a year ago.) < 1328914014 813659 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I usually determine all of this stuff using Astrolog (although it has no GPS input, it is a feature I would like it to have) < 1328914035 101891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I was sort of limited by what was available easily for my phone. < 1328914044 410749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also jupiter is too small to be a star, although you may be referring to a certain "2010" film which i haven't seen < 1328914062 860735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've read it has that as a plot point < 1328914064 308285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Actually I was referring to the books, but still. < 1328914154 173380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the monoliths are quite magic, I'm sure they can make a star. I mean, they do it by "increasing Jupiter's density", according to Wiki. I guess I could check if the actual book goes into any more detail. < 1328914277 937964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also venus is always close to the sun, which means jupiter is more likely to be visible at night time < 1328914286 31109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, the book makes it sound more like they're just compressing it. < 1328914317 979451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sufficiently advanced technology, and all that < 1328914320 616026 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercuty will be even more close to the sun because it orbits closer to the sun < 1328914372 74776 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1328914428 293464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia's "apparent visual magnitudes" table starts with: -38.00, Rigel as seen from 1 astronomical unit. It is seen as a large very bright bluish schorching ball of 35° apparent diameter. < 1328914434 95628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, they have not attached a photo. < 1328914452 890097 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you ever see it can you attach a photo? < 1328914464 659046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the photographer mysteriously perished, i'm afraid < 1328914465 536798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will try to remember to do that. < 1328914481 697849 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not own any telescopes < 1328914594 450915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I own a pair of binoculars; I've been wondering if I should try doing some DIY moon-photography through them, since that thing is so ridiculously big one might even get some detail. I took a (handheld!) picture of moon at the maximum zoom of my crappy non-DSLR camera, and there were surprisingly many pixels covered by the thing. < 1328914657 258756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : There are trucks that go around causing tragicles. Evil trucks. <-- ice cream trucks. < 1328914719 498297 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once read an article in 2600 where someone used ten very powerful lenses to view the moon, resulting in it being difficult to correctly point the telescope due to the moon's speed, as well as resulting in chromatic aberration < 1328914778 631140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find my moon. :/ < 1328914789 107681 :oklopol!~oklopol@86.50.70.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have your own moon?? < 1328914803 853504 :oklopol!~oklopol@86.50.70.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were relatively slim for some reason < 1328914805 764692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just what I call my ass. < 1328914808 408136 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, fizzie's "moon" is really more of a planet. < 1328914824 553419 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :****, that seemed way less insulting a few seconds before I said it. < 1328914844 427286 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they mentioned seeing what appeared to be man-made structures. They also mentioned the book for the telescope said it would be boring to use the high-powered lens to look at the moon < 1328914901 939113 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that NASA had no such photographs. < 1328914910 630023 :oklopol!~oklopol@86.50.70.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION parse no < 1328914932 224914 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know..... < 1328914936 319333 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could save myself a lot of time < 1328914937 328049 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328914941 616682 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just make a sprunge command for Emacs < 1328914944 956737 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have I not thought of this. < 1328914950 445642 :oklopol!~oklopol@86.50.70.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i agree < 1328914952 514339 :oklopol!~oklopol@86.50.70.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1328914965 524303 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night. < 1328914966 73159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves at oklopol  < 1328914967 309874 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328914979 298467 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN YOUNG MAN < 1328914982 928211 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I don't know. But, yes, you could do that; post it in case other people using Emacs find it useful too < 1328914997 367804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there it is: http://zem.fi/~fis/moon.jpg -- it's not exactly a high-quality thing, but still, handheld and it's more than just a blob. (Instead it's an irregular-texture blob.) < 1328915026 718145 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: basically it would just sprunge the current buffer and copy the link to clipboard < 1328915042 731210 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :M-x sprunge < 1328915070 923405 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Yes that is what I thought. It might be useful to some people that use Emacs < 1328915072 344262 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1328915074 980231 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally I do something like < 1328915095 615112 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :M-x shell -> (cd to directory if not already there) -> cat file | sprunge < 1328915152 503067 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> copy link text via one of many different ways (usually not the most efficient one) < 1328915184 800521 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is because I'm bad at emacs. < 1328915190 244315 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have mentioned this before; in Linux there is a directory for each process, and I think there should be a subdirectory which accesses a FUSE file system for that process (resulting in a "disk not ready" error if the process does not have such a thing), and the one for X should include a file for the clipboard < 1328915225 89157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I'd dare to paste blindly (at least without testing to cat > /dev/null), trusting that some shifty ELisp thing has successfully managed to put anything sensible into the selection. < 1328915391 448226 :aloril_!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328915623 749889 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-019-053.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328916281 933555 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-244-109.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1328916351 893525 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-149-244.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328917050 505964 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-169-139.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1328917081 471720 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-019-053.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1328917143 307997 :lament!~lament@184.71.170.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1328917147 439451 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-019-053.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1328917161 514737 :lament!~lament@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1328917162 188500 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1328917170 224793 :lament!~lament@184.71.170.250 PART :#esoteric < 1328917207 280984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye olde drive-by lament < 1328917229 216946 :ion!~ion@83.145.237.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/AAAAAAAAA! < 1328917234 444959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a hunch lament doesn't stay around in haskell channels much < 1328917274 537781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to forget http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/AAAAAAAAAAAAAA%21%21%21%21 < 1328917599 583402 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-019-053.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1328917621 833672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a feeling the spec is rather ambiguous, which may be why no one has implemented it < 1328917641 588905 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-019-053.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric