< 1330387421 874360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysql> select distinct right(user_email, length(user_email) - locate('@', user_email)) as domain, (select count(*) from user where user_email like concat('%@',domain)) as count from user order by count desc; < 1330387423 330833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is useful < 1330387460 801415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brendonweston.info is spam, stcharlescountyhome.com is spam, thankyou2010.com is spam, mailnesia.com is very likely spam < 1330387499 395034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, mailnesia is spam < 1330387563 444169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there goes another 37 users < 1330387573 810580 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you 2010 < 1330387603 680120 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1330387650 403880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you have 7zip < 1330387717 317280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1330387759 716549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 7z and 7za on the nvg server command line < 1330387789 757856 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1330387931 930312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that'll work < 1330388057 939359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sent an email < 1330388529 971633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: meanwhile, mafiascum.net's admins are trying to work out how all sixteen backup disks managed to get zeroed at the same time, during a site failure < 1330388566 551815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got all the publicly visible data I could out of my cache < 1330388578 604314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1330388644 420527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's pretty worrying something like that /can/ happen < 1330388647 248243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it clearly isn't a coincidence < 1330388696 307855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :114 Tom Duff td@pixar.com Tom Duff 28 < 1330388701 475425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an awesome user record < 1330388777 115944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're pasting user emails in #esoteric? < 1330388791 790381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I somehow doubt that's spam < 1330388792 501252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, oops :) < 1330388797 635954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling that email is public, though < 1330388833 996883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem to be current, anyway: http://www.tomduff.com/mailto.html < 1330388868 564209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, he's the author of the prehistory page < 1330388886 319745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, no more is $wgReadOnly set to "deleting spam accounts" < 1330388893 562638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll lock the DB again once I find another pattern < 1330388921 610692 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CA16.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1330388994 257456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the history of excela is weird < 1330388997 440929 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CA16.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330389003 500041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loads of spambots, and the occasional "deleted spam user" < 1330389046 839184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, I'm focussing on selecting spam users from [[Excela]]'s history right now < 1330389049 706356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*focusing < 1330389052 868302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it seems a lot of them got lost < 1330389098 230628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: actually, "any user with only one edit, and it's to Excela" is very unlikely to be a false positive, right? < 1330389111 169860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting point < 1330389115 726388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Neleai even the language creator survives (just) ;) < 1330389118 196322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's also a page quite likely to attract drive-by vandal cleanup < 1330389228 642449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I am really terrible at joins < 1330389254 225647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(show/hide) 16:49, 28 March 2008 (diff | hist) MemPanic ‎ (top) [rollback] < 1330389254 569437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(show/hide) 22:29, 26 March 2008 (diff | hist) N MemPanic ‎ (New page: '''memPanic''' is written by Tommaso Moro in 2008. [http://www.mempanic.altervista.org memPanic website]) < 1330389255 315691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1330389285 830886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1330389290 426216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to restore from the backup and investigate < 1330389393 296756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it was "Doppiazeta" < 1330389405 125287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to figure out why they were presumed a spammer < 1330389455 634167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+---------+------------+---------------------+----------------+ < 1330389455 859421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :| user_id | user_name | user_email | user_real_name | < 1330389456 48732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+---------+------------+---------------------+----------------+ < 1330389456 48930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :| 282 | Doppiazeta | doppiazeta@email.it | TommasoMoro | < 1330389456 49033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :| 315 | Dopiazeta | doppiazeta@email.it | Tomamso Moro | < 1330389456 520559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :| 317 | DoppiaZeta | doppiazeta@email.it | Tommaso Moro | < 1330389458 638637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+---------+------------+---------------------+----------------+ < 1330389462 20105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the mind boggles... < 1330389493 376018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you said you'd checked all the triplicates? < 1330389500 623456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, stop posting emails publicly < 1330389504 638633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did, and oops < 1330389529 833246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that one was buried in a sea of alphabetic-mush-with-real-looking-names < 1330389586 401753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: hey, go censor the logs or something < 1330389624 414277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the old wiki have a privacy policy? < 1330389637 980628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1330389705 499759 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glogbot_censor ^:elliott![^ ]* PRIVMSG :|.*Dop.*email\.it.*Tomamso.*Moro < 1330389826 951907 :calamari!~jeffryj@32.97.110.61 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330389838 32881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: somehow I don't believe that's a real glogbot command < 1330389841 710405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glogbot_ignore does this still work? < 1330389842 463361 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this still work? < 1330389863 630540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, Mark Chu-Caroll has an account on the wiki < 1330389883 495412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he edited [[Mark C. Chu-Carroll]]. COI! COI! < 1330389914 798930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should admit to editing [[Ørjan Johansen]] < 1330389958 41498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I've never edited [[Alex Smith]] < 1330389992 680804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that all the edits to [[Mark C. Chu-Carroll]] except his own are mine. < 1330390062 737719 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time I edited user:monqy < 1330390064 45746 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1330390065 444717 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :two times < 1330390089 335681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: let me know when you're free to look for patterns in the remaining users (before I restored the backup), btw < 1330390110 584585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not tonight, I'm free but too tired < 1330390331 915140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1330390355 998482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION updates the page < 1330390388 522215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: User:* is supposed to work that way < 1330390433 653766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh the wiki's still locked < 1330390514 500384 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was the joke :( < 1330390528 265688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: sorry, no jokes allowed < 1330390532 860887 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1330390582 125925 :calamari!~jeffryj@32.97.110.61 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1330390788 718344 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1330390887 383148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c argh the wiki's still locked < 1330390888 581576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no it's not < 1330390898 122921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it is < 1330390903 619204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed < 1330390974 36283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_C._Chu-Carroll&curid=2127&diff=30724&oldid=13111 < 1330390978 766261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already noted it was non-current... < 1330390982 376298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since 2008 :P < 1330390997 791764 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1330391002 711820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm darn < 1330391082 191506 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-029-066.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330391082 888359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i edited an old revision :P < 1330391094 924889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps Mark's < 1330391097 623922 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330391231 602236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't see myself being a sysop? < 1330391259 587873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you actually want to be? < 1330391285 34517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you were joking < 1330391303 727636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes. but i wanted to at the start of this anyway < 1330391320 915937 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-055-126.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330391454 152989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looked up a norwegian geek on wikipedia and was not disappointed by the picture chosen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Olav_Lahlum < 1330391526 160660 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be geekier < 1330391640 770336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i went to op you but i accidentally opped olsner instead. sorry. < 1330391642 170021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sysop < 1330391666 841284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats EgoBot -----### < 1330391683 466474 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-210-153.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330391690 909272 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-254-220.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1330391781 882995 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330391809 26519 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1330392435 445877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know when you turn into a floor? < 1330392436 959352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sucks. < 1330392449 602529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1330392466 14404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not okay. < 1330392488 168704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not a common experience for me. < 1330392494 266866 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't turn into a space toilet; they suck ass < 1330392690 935898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330392979 559357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are you sure? < 1330392983 937911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you just never notice. < 1330392996 883710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.... < 1330393076 945226 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is firmly grounded in reality < 1330393119 674030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: :( < 1330393138 928481 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CA16.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330393144 124730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all locked up in his matrix of solidity < 1330394356 559618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sortle&curid=1270&diff=30727&oldid=30723 < 1330394562 569321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WAS RIGHT *MWAHAHAHAHA* < 1330394580 26798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always good to know. unless it's something awful, of course. < 1330394937 771782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY WHO WANTS TO HELP ME WHITTLE DOWN SPAM USERS < 1330395001 463550 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet elliott does; he seems enthusiastic. < 1330395031 592251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: thank you for volunteering! < 1330395035 144071 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1330395063 687911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS I'M AFRAID < 1330395084 798006 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh noo < 1330395094 691431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you have only yourself to blame < 1330395098 540941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh nooo < 1330395106 346193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow welcome to heaven < 1330395106 533713 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2w3e4l5c6o7m8e9 2t3o4 5h6e7a8v9e2n < 1330395137 949602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very spectrally realistic, that rainbow < 1330395152 250465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: YOU RUINED MONQY'S CHANCE TO RESPOND < 1330395158 944251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kick yourself for ruining the pattern please < 1330395170 966870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im too dead to respond < 1330395187 351122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot ruin a pattern i don't recognize < 1330395187 830404 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what heaven's for right < 1330395189 369322 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead people < 1330395202 128351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh no / ohh noo / ohhh nooo etc. < 1330395203 12682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bats. < 1330395211 414463 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm a bat < 1330395214 82593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bats are of course dead mice, thus the wings < 1330395243 24574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip mice < 1330395244 842866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that pattern < 1330395314 262097 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-234-114-13.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got high hopes for DocSigma, just because that's a neat sounding name. < 1330395324 563426 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-234-114-13.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Gugus. < 1330395366 820782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking through the user list I see :P < 1330395384 430568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't DocSigma come here once... < 1330395420 92042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a mad scientist < 1330395566 990217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help. < 1330395569 458687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i turned into a floor again. < 1330395574 778667 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1330395589 362298 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can floors delete spam users < 1330395594 316397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you doing when it happened? < 1330395607 416765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION analytical < 1330395646 580109 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Ng Ta ka monqy update < 1330395657 637538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: having a premonition of what Sgeo was about to do < 1330395674 348503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1330395693 691892 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1330395696 631874 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am I on there < 1330395708 115891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who are Ng, Ta and ka < 1330395716 357852 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd, taneb, kallistey? < 1330395722 930398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngorricle, tapioca, kapoop < 1330395727 588961 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1330395747 682659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly correct, elliott is < 1330395977 710000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1330396138 448738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1330396501 534097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330396602 454520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1330396651 628082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`... < 1330396652 735093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1330396655 451320 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ...: not found < 1330396720 373587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i ts crying because of you < 1330396741 780825 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1330396805 288949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"say goodbye to the internet" < 1330396883 969841 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1330396975 639886 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1330397287 703882 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1330397502 466928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1330397593 926037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cries softly. spam query cries softly. < 1330397596 910050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :world cries softly < 1330398112 33842 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1330398596 379951 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is crying because i have to upgrade my browser which means i have to reinstall all my addons and stuff which is a pain and pain is tears < 1330398618 723426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What browser is reinstalling addons on upgrade necessary with? < 1330398662 744964 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doing FF3.6.3 -> FF10.0.2 in one swell foop < 1330398679 737589 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are lots of addons which have released versions that are only functional in later versions < 1330398689 464385 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are thus separate packages < 1330398787 120063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 -> 10 is only one major version. < 1330398811 911061 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is the major version dividing line? < 1330398856 500695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They changed to their new version scheme for FF4. < 1330398905 561371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since then the first number has increased 3 months, 1 month, 2 months, 1 month, 1 month after each release. < 1330399383 709398 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was less painful than expected, though i lost outright several of my addons < 1330399390 986724 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully i dont use those very often < 1330399711 378916 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330399736 839977 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1330400818 870979 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1330404990 766509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1330405253 128764 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330405428 142450 :cswords__!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1330406218 766099 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You'll never guess what happened to my caps lock key *this* time. < 1330406236 660169 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you might guess if you try enough. < 1330406296 436330 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you would hate my workaround. < 1330406364 782853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess what I'm not going to do? < 1330406381 181570 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess? < 1330406382 209984 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-234-114-13.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your workaround "hold the shift key"? < 1330406390 618688 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My workaround: < 1330406397 788384 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true; do disable-capslock; sleep 0.1; done < 1330406424 688466 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-234-114-13.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it somehow stukc into randomly activating? < 1330406432 862031 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, whenever I press it. < 1330406438 148032 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an art to the building up of suspense. < 1330406471 612608 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-234-114-13.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also an art to suddenly going to sleep now. < 1330406474 75136 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-234-114-13.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MSleep < 1330406496 64951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You found the only way to decrease its battery life. < 1330406502 530966 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wins. < 1330406518 863707 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Achievement unlocked: Negative battery life! < 1330406555 438480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://armorgames.com/play/2893/achievement-unlocked < 1330406565 626153 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Played it. < 1330406577 875312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you play the sequel? < 1330406585 197042 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't finish it. < 1330406586 975389 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION got the point. < 1330406597 743055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's rewarding! < 1330406605 81932 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what's rewarding? < 1330406611 283827 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figuring out why my caps lock key is so broken. < 1330406771 729058 :MSleep!~fyrc@pa-67-234-114-13.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1330407068 538046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recompletes Achievement Unlocked in 437 seconds. < 1330407071 999308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO MUCH FUN. < 1330407076 736803 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :437 seconds? < 1330407083 528430 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad you didn't unlock the "under 400 seconds" achievement. < 1330407140 506739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I don't remember playing the sequel. < 1330407174 925647 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you got bored with it. < 1330407177 268439 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got bored with it. < 1330407183 927493 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you play the "1-level" game? < 1330407186 497344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1330407193 47263 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you play the "0-level" game? < 1330407195 819817 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hint: Yes.) < 1330407273 160146 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330407638 999822 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there good languages that compile to flash? < 1330407906 696298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Why the heck would you want to compile something to Flash? < 1330407920 809280 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry you lost me when you said flash < 1330407949 413076 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if I want to make Flash games.. < 1330407963 759838 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. so visual basic vs flash, which one is the winner? < 1330408069 302605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want to make flash games < 1330408149 370621 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can be on 4chan /f/? < 1330409036 870239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :C?-) (There's that LLVM-based "Alchemy" thing from Adobe Labs. Wonder if anyone's used for anything.) < 1330409091 93972 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-210-153.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Suicide < 1330409143 619540 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1330410006 41435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:52. Finally. < 1330410013 486188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Remember Dot Action 2? < 1330410026 172491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, they compiled Doom with that thing. < 1330410060 398291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Dot Action 2 was with it? Well, then. < 1330410070 518113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, no. < 1330410073 71014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was just a remark. < 1330410079 879473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1330410096 580670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a question, but mostly a remark. < 1330410122 832961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently someone's compiled Lua's regular VM with it, to do a bit of VM-on-VM fun. < 1330410336 75662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. So do you remember Dot Action 2? That was a game. < 1330410359 81679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course. < 1330410359 904570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, there's a Dot Action 3. < 1330410397 93633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or is there. < 1330410556 490144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[PDF] Weak Charge Quantization on Superconducting Islands < 1330410556 676872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :28 Mar 2002… scales we consider are larger than δ, one may evaluate the second term in the dot's action (3) in … < 1330410559 892916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This stupid thing aint'nt even loading. < 1330410567 273481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Does http://www.muchgames.com/play-games/dot-action-3 < 1330410569 413136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :load for you? < 1330410571 201506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it "the legit"? < 1330410638 148557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, now it a-loadeth. < 1330410659 915147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just the 2. :( < 1330410674 549661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creys & so on. < 1330410698 848217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dot Action 3: Dot Harder. < 1330410724 188657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Awnings dot, game go down the road. < 1330410724 538881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If people have a "pocket computer", a time that might be played." < 1330410804 168656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play some "dot action" with your "pocket computer"; adding quotes can make almost anything sound dirty. < 1330410816 899413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not dot action! That's one of his other games. < 1330410819 402859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget its name, now. < 1330410824 180786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it was on a list. < 1330410958 815120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :His Twitter is good, translated: "Pikachu, ocean currents, Washiboshi" < 1330410966 903520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hopefully this will be even a little soldering" < 1330411111 365532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And today I'm going to sleep again." < 1330414095 592362 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*idea* < 1330414108 974754 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody should make a language with random bit errors :D < 1330414121 315966 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programmers then would have to use error correction mechanisms :) < 1330414310 28844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Entropy? < 1330414556 744889 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat like that yeah. < 1330414757 497617 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRUNK ELIZA: COME CPME ELUCICATE YOUR THOUGHTS. < 1330414767 333457 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1330414775 943782 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :My english is too bad to recognize what this should mean < 1330414778 549629 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :elucicate? < 1330414792 205870 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elucidate is like... describe? < 1330414792 519753 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :elucidate? < 1330414797 797612 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1330414800 246713 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know elucidate. < 1330414800 711281 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucid < 1330414802 528263 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make lucid < 1330414833 787720 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for extra nerdiness: < 1330414839 113365 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRUNK ELIZA: DGD!XOU COME!VQ CE!BFCATSE YOU ARE"BAD AT EPGLISH. < 1330414840 791391 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come come elucidate your thoughtsSss < 1330414847 79473 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunklevel too low < 1330414851 818598 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :commmeh sjooomMe ElUhuhhuhcIdAhte yaOoour thOoouhghtZSssS < 1330414854 275075 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1330414854 668280 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunk eliza doesn't seem to like ponies < 1330414868 987676 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :She said I'm bad at english! < 1330414876 401106 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote an eliza bot once < 1330414881 465078 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoping nerds would recognize it < 1330414883 194346 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody did :( < 1330414888 834970 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, lame < 1330414894 91411 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made her latch on to people who join the channel < 1330414894 748117 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a classic < 1330414894 976270 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRUNK ELIZA: PH* J BYOUTCH! < 1330414902 656866 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i know < 1330414907 925716 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that elucidate line is a real giveaway < 1330414921 746835 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i modified it to respond to people in like #!!!!!!!!lolsex < 1330414928 676465 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see if i got anything funny < 1330414929 230876 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only corrupts data, not code? < 1330414930 544258 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No fun. < 1330414936 801256 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one guy talked for 95 lines getting ONLY GENERIC RESPONSES < 1330415082 754067 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, the time cube never goes away < 1330415096 877126 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :time cube? < 1330415101 288671 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points at the topic < 1330415105 28764 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but have you seen http://thymecube.com/ ?! < 1330415116 223490 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :80,69655167No human or god can match < 1330415116 432893 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :80,69655167Nature's simultaneous 4 flavor < 1330415116 619645 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :80,69655167revolution in 1 Earth plant. < 1330415595 97372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9478085/learning-type-of-argument-in-function < 1330415595 621104 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the...? < 1330415600 977594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: timecube.com < 1330415624 626447 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @stackoverflow < 1330415641 883308 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That guy seriously does not understand haskell < 1330415666 639030 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Haskell is strongly typed so you always know what type the parameters to functions are." < 1330415679 491419 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he wants < 1330415688 403919 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if type(a==Int) do that else do this < 1330415698 270181 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is ignoring the question because it overflowed the infuriatingness, and instead focusing on minor details of answers. < 1330415739 545965 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell him to pass (String,String) < 1330415755 525817 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he can read it! < 1330415808 807916 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually he should be able to get that behaviour with typeclasses and instances? < 1330415850 438676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Have you ever been durnk? < 1330415850 625156 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: just kidding. < 1330415866 572633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Who's kidding? < 1330415866 894855 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as a newbie to understand what makes their programs agreeable to me. < 1330415908 833680 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1330416031 250698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, people gave answers now? < 1330416038 554189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I linked it there were none. That was good. < 1330416321 318563 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those haskell questions are terrible. < 1330416672 532342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of them are, yes. < 1330416679 323425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should know. < 1330416707 10941 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell questions are terrible because Haskell is terrible. < 1330416719 229084 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is terrible. < 1330416722 410139 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not at that level. < 1330416758 523001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is terrible. < 1330417039 600613 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm grateful someone on the irc told me to learn haskell. < 1330417057 433324 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have learnt Lisp otherwise. < 1330417069 16228 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"otherwise"? < 1330417091 306863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what do you mean by lisp < 1330417097 597678 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common Lisp < 1330417126 936276 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody then said "fuck you. learn haskell" :D < 1330417202 83543 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I wanted to learn a new, hopefully better language @otherwise < 1330417214 432082 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And CLisp seemed like a nice language. < 1330417520 919297 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: bye < 1330417551 141658 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was never happy with the programming languages I used so I always keept looking for better languages. < 1330417630 66650 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*kept < 1330417654 27924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should still learn lisp < 1330417744 985811 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Common Lisp in particular? < 1330417761 613674 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a reason to prefer Common Lisp over, say, Scheme, besides the perhaps not so great reasons I have? < 1330417790 223846 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1330417989 835120 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a scheme compiler < 1330417992 578369 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to native code) < 1330417994 484473 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1330418004 898201 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chicken Scheme, I believe < 1330418006 656294 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be others < 1330418044 464619 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the main reason I'm currently focused on Common Lisp rather than Scheme is FUD about libraries and portability. < 1330418266 156805 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I kind of want something more suited for modifying a running program. < 1330418275 728262 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I've been told CL is better at, not sure how true that is. < 1330418514 480835 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-213-164.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330418646 50247 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-234.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1330418646 583734 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-234.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1330418646 770385 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1330418691 666879 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-210-153.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1330418855 517815 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330419219 740937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. im a flower < 1330419891 405209 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I reading about Poker on one particular poker site rather than sleeping? < 1330420595 597487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poker < 1330420645 259278 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played poker yesterday < 1330420650 434090 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the first time in my life < 1330420780 675501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you die < 1330421025 532893 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don < 1330421028 557032 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1330421041 44897 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a site, AmIStillAlive.com < 1330421061 98192 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is such a site, apparently it's private? < 1330421089 393407 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maitoa - Trac or something < 1330421159 278454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1330421240 847750 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, AmIStillAlive.com wants me (anyone who visits) to authenticate, and the server says "Maitoa - Trac" < 1330421275 254314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1330421303 503119 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The registrant is apparently in Finlnad < 1330421305 223250 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland < 1330421382 928349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to sleep ffs < 1330422374 108686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: fi:maitoa = en:milk. (Well, it's the partitive case.) < 1330422479 595354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, a fizzie. < 1330422482 829060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahafizzie. < 1330422577 670236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really; I've'to do this exercise session in ten minutes or so. < 1330422604 917961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if I get this laptop to do the wireless, otherwise I'm going to have some trouble remote-running the MAT LAB. < 1330422699 808821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are you exercising... your laptop? < 1330422721 197678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not mine. < 1330422727 808016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's our group's demotop. < 1330422739 904659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I barely managed to remember the password of the democcount. < 1330422790 586500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remote-X-MATLAB over a barely-there wlan is a good patience-building exercise. < 1330422817 964011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I feel as if Finnish people aren't even speaking words. < 1330422971 363129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, this thing is like the slow. But at least it works. < 1330423053 8649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely certain why they don't put in some plug-it-in network cables in the classrooms. I think some of them have one, but most don't. < 1330423069 25505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a couple of holes in the wall, but I'm not sure I want to go sticking my thing into strange holes. < 1330423078 565831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially since I don't have a spare cable. < 1330423167 872006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you speaking words? < 1330423205 606462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. < 1330423209 551391 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.classicreader.com/book/2967/1/ < I'm supposed to read this for English class. . . < 1330423221 291597 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this Scots?? < 1330423313 644689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, looks pretty English to me. < 1330423339 752277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, then it gets a bit more Scotsy. But I think it's just regional English. < 1330423356 324502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mutually intelligble and whatnot, anyway. < 1330423366 25625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scots borders on being a dialect. < 1330423506 558005 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still can barely understand it... < 1330423552 247222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pronouncing it might help. < 1330423571 669923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose Americans are less acquainted with Scottish accents. < 1330423589 718963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'd still need a dictionary to get all o' them words. But it doesn't look *too* bad. < 1330423626 82168 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, uh < 1330423630 94576 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sudden start of dialect kind of.... < 1330423631 758842 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wait WHAT" < 1330423662 571083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the English are well-accustomed to sudden onslaughts of Scots, if you know what I mean. < 1330423683 249835 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they live next to scotland. < 1330423749 729645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could say that, yes. < 1330423760 979315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't call what we do next to Scotland living. < 1330424340 602752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1330425387 765605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Afghanistan has no copyright law" whoa < 1330425657 840239 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330425875 596443 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330426760 582594 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hug~♪ < 1330427346 71683 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DE79.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330430533 147359 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1330430553 323560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1330430554 303054 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1330430669 833997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://buztech.org/read-d-programming-ebooks-lesson-1-getting-started.html < 1330430678 681311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To be healthy to information in D you requirement to prototypal intend a D compiler. For this tutorial we are feat to ingest the Digital Mars D Compiler." < 1330430689 189170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Every instance you poverty to information in D you crapper meet separate dprogenv.bat and it module unstoppered a bidding distinction pane with every the needed surround variables already set. If you undergo what you are doing then you crapper also ordered the distinction on your machine to allow the distinction to the folder that contains the programme and ingest it same that but using this wink enter is much easier for beginners." < 1330430752 219824 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-234.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1330430752 445404 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-234.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1330430752 445566 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1330430949 272103 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1330432755 183981 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DE79.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330433317 508756 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1330433345 331939 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :let the Power of the Continuum fill your soul with answers. < 1330433385 687335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1330433410 237120 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1330433985 63152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice < 1330434195 876767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 yes, by the way: http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode.txt < 1330434196 63617 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1330434196 526814 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330434199 535811 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330434208 697508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 and see http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC0_FAQ#May_I_apply_CC0_to_computer_software.3F_If_so.2C_is_there_a_recommended_implementation.3F < 1330434208 884428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1330434214 44822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Phantom_Hoover: you entered within seconds of each other < 1330434223 166054 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1330434225 964086 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1330434244 417213 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no im Taneb < 1330434257 946879 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, I'm Phantom_Hoover! < 1330434286 77255 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contempt: a modern depiction. < 1330434318 750607 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can't actually hold Taneb in contempt; it's like having contempt for a kitten.) < 1330434347 570604 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1330434360 219434 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel happy noe < 1330434368 844885 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/oe/ow/ < 1330434572 796324 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330434588 150708 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330434629 310408 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah, lost internet < 1330434670 928723 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you check under the sofa? < 1330434682 709372 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was in my other pocket < 1330435201 754417 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330435223 382048 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330435612 161818 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1330435713 712767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Pingypongpong. < 1330438089 661457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bing bong. < 1330438113 881115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was an uncommonly interested student, had to talk to him like an hour afterwards. < 1330438142 879472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fair part of it was commiserating about how our introductionary signal-processing courses are in Finnish only, though. (He has a different background, apparently.) < 1330438190 429505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some sort of a policy level decision that all bachelor's degree level courses are primarily in Finnish only, while all master's level courses are primarily in English only. < 1330438260 585333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You has the eepveesixes, right? < 1330438313 616952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, to some degree. < 1330438324 711446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not here at work, certainly, we're not that advanced. < 1330438355 670274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfft, more like "jerk", am I right? < 1330438364 286397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Am I?) < 1330438376 636433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the one at home is through a funnel nowadays, thanks to the faster-and-cheaper-but-worse ISP. But it still exists. < 1330438473 388916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the sixes, though? < 1330438627 318061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if esolangs.org "mostly worked" via IPv6, modulo the /etc/hosts entry that would be required since there's no AAAA record. < 1330438634 209224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I saw the http://www.worldipv6launch.org/ thing and was like "hey, I can beat them to that".) < 1330438747 607987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hey quick can you pastebin me your .zshrc. < 1330438881 394692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't use zsh. < 1330438909 990258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I get a connection-refused out of that one 2a01:... address you once gave, for port 80, though the host itself seems to answur. < 1330438981 10232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Right, so probably nginx isn't listening on IPv6? < 1330439005 276177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds possible. It ping6's just fine. < 1330439070 777493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lessee... < 1330439072 545442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiously ping6 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd gives a rather stable 52.2 ms, while ping esolangs.org gives an equally stable 56.2 ms. I guess I can deduce IPv6 is just four milliseconds faster. < 1330439110 995034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, it's quite a different route thanks to the funnel.) < 1330439126 170806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Try now. < 1330439139 900396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The days of 30-second-loads-because-of-broken-IPv6 are in the past now, right?) < 1330439157 279611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they should be at least in a very small minority. < 1330439184 320075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I got a 404 not found, but that was probably because I tried the direct address, which doesn't have the esolangs.org Host:. I'll try with the /etc/hosts on. < 1330439205 131836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, yes, the default site is just an empty thing. < 1330439207 112138 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-234-114-13.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330439305 905227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to work. < 1330439323 687656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Special:Randomed a couple of times, and finally ended up in "Clue (Keymaker)". < 1330439351 843671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only borwsed via elinks so I don't know if it actually looks right. < 1330439355 965585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure you're accessing through IPv6? Just checking. < 1330439359 579738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since, you know, /etc/hosts. < 1330439362 846116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not entirely, no. < 1330439371 293214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want to verify from the blogs? < 1330439377 824331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You could pop in 127.0.0.1 in the hosts line. < 1330439382 268166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that IPv4 lookups would fail. < 1330439386 736587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, succeed. < 1330439389 333248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then go wrong places. < 1330439416 104282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm now at "Sclipting/table", I'm not sure that was an improvement. < 1330439444 280519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The body seems to be just "{{{1}}}" as seen by elinks. < 1330439447 362534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is. < 1330439458 384402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With some HTML, I think, that's obviously shown on the rendered page. < 1330439459 574453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That definitely veesix? < 1330439482 325162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's 127.0.0.1 for "esolangs.org" in hosts now, so I suppose it's very likely. I guess I can tcpdump just to be sure. < 1330439520 502812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't waste THE ALAN DIPERT's time for nothing, y'know. < 1330439542 780079 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: I don't use zsh. < 1330439555 791221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, what about the one from when you did? < 1330439617 479705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's lost to the sands of time. Or the sands of just being on another machine. < 1330439619 862148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:31:13.216682 IP6 (hlim 248, next-header TCP (6) payload length: 1440) 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd.80 > 2001:470:df67:4c:21d:7dff:fee4:a593.35562: Flags [.], cksum 0x4d4d (correct), seq 22571:23979, ack 396, win 960, options [nop,nop,TS val 889163587 ecr 188507229], length 1408 < 1330439624 782234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Just use the zsh setup wizard thing. < 1330439624 969243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks very sixy. < 1330439629 540814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, that looks quite 6. < 1330439643 204618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well... good to know. < 1330439674 418508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1330439723 411269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I removedated it now because otherwise I'll forget it there and then spend half an hour wondering what's wrong with esolangs.org when it v4-resolves to localhost. < 1330439736 933458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As if anyone needs v4-resolution in 2012. < 1330439746 849365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should be on IPva billion now. < 1330439834 545647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You should add that graspy diagram thing to that grasp thing or something on the wiki. < 1330439845 409018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I need ALL MY GRASP DIAGRAMS IN ONE CONVENIENT PLACE.) < 1330439897 368101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a half-written rewrite of the new thing in ~/grasp.txt, I'm just too self-conscious to edit it in the wiki even in my own user page. I'll git'r'done soon. < 1330439915 862494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if it were *there*, people could *see* it. < 1330439922 727414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't have any of that sort of thing. < 1330439972 546564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, man, yesterday was, like, a post-server-move RECORD of NON-CHANGES! < 1330439974 953762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally slippin'. < 1330440306 689806 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1330440979 867255 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hu. < 1330440985 410989 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a stalker mode o_O < 1330441799 354041 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Sigh*. < 1330441928 399558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to install Morrowind under Wine; when I start the installer in the ISO, all the characters are garbled (they're all vowels with ` superscribed, if that helps); I have corefonts installed and the ISO set up as a disk drive. < 1330441953 922366 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This place can't be any less helpful than #winehq, so it's worth a shot. < 1330442158 367007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vowels with blah sounds like Unicode fail. < 1330442164 235246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screenshot please < 1330442216 873385 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts, discovers that he doesn't actually have a screenshot utility. < 1330442338 222568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: scrot or such < 1330442351 18214 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, even gimp. < 1330442387 947602 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joy, installing scrot failed because the mirror didn't have a required library. < 1330442413 616198 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kernel.org; I thought it was supposed to be more reliable than that? < 1330442472 77226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship, that'd be great if I had Gimp. < 1330442541 451935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What distro? < 1330442548 794593 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Arch. < 1330442557 283724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you "-Syu"? < 1330442567 96448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A library was presumably not found because you didn't update the bloody repos. < 1330442575 160766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh, and don't "-Sy" without "u") < 1330442591 202350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So it tried to download an old library version which has been removed.) < 1330442603 767227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *did* -Syu. < 1330442614 111457 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a while ago, though. < 1330442626 905693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a while ago. < 1330442630 172147 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330442632 389463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How while ago? < 1330442633 714229 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1330442640 425579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should basically do it before any repo operation unless you've done it in the past day. < 1330442673 381265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the part where it gives no indication whatsoever that it's because of outdated repos. < 1330442748 910214 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/q8sez/remind_me_why_do_we_dislike_the_elves/ < 1330442751 892779 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst df player < 1330442753 917610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It has absolutely no way of knowing whether it's due to outdated repos. < 1330442770 976176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its records tell it that libfoo 4.5.1 are available at kernel.org; it goes to download, gets a 404, and dutifully reports on that fact. < 1330442786 792255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checking whether the repos are out of date on every operation would be possible, but incur a time delay and HTTP request on every task. < 1330443987 166197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://imgur.com/hssVS < 1330443990 971110 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird text. < 1330444094 773045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yeah, that's trying to be Russian or something. < 1330444099 511811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got that from the pirated WA installer. < 1330444108 249036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried saying yes and no? < 1330444167 669417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR trying it before, and I think I still got crazy text. < 1330444176 811635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1330444179 3362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just go through the installer. < 1330444186 847245 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I mean. < 1330444196 175064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although actually it's question marks in the installer. < 1330444213 932234 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1330444294 607395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you don't have to read the text to be able to operate the installer. < 1330444325 475550 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, now it crashes. < 1330444366 739416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes through the UESP help. < 1330444429 558179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo 'Äëÿ óñòàîâêè èãðû' | iconv -t iso-8859-1 | iconv -f cp1251 < 1330444432 976858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Для устаовки игры < 1330444444 310709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For ustaovki games", says Google Translate. < 1330444451 835063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Couldn't be bothered to type in more.) < 1330444477 930366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also not sure about the thing that looked like a double-i in the second word. < 1330444489 233304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's probably translatable like that. < 1330444563 237951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ^ < 1330444766 262173 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morrowind's crashing now. < 1330444962 896751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I mistranslated it to Для устаовки игры требуются мрава администратмра "For ustaovki games require Mrav administratmra" and GT said "Did you mean: Для установки игры требуются права администратора" => "To install the game must have administrator privileges". < 1330445035 141154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the "double-i" thing was "íî" for reals. Well, makes sense. < 1330445039 894981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, to catch a bus. -> < 1330445470 694784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got another solution. This was shortly followed by discovering that it's in Russian. < 1330445513 710430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone's rushin'. < 1330445556 776955 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even find the language options. < 1330445644 7330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: SCP-1234: The Russian Game < 1330445656 703365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most dangerous game. < 1330445661 973824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Object class: Keter < 1330445687 573060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Special Containment Procedures: SCP-1234 is to be kept safely on Phantom_Hoover's hard drive at all times. At no point is he to attempt to play the game. Any attempt should be met with immediate termination. < 1330445710 846470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1330445739 139455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Description: SCP-1234 at first appears to be an ordinary copy of the 2002 video game Morrowind. However, it is only available in Russian, a language the original Morrowind was never translated to. < 1330445748 430866 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330445784 820968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a single person undergoes 12 cumulative hours of play of SCP-1234, they will begin to utter Russian phrases (expletives, proverbs, etc.) in everyday contexts, yet will deny awareness of these occurrences. < 1330445804 643795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After 24 hours of play, they can understand conversational Russian, and can offer no explanation for this ability. < 1330445823 30215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After 48 hours of play, they will be fluent in Russian. < 1330445850 823379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After 72 hours of play, they prefer Russian for all communication when possible, and will often have mild difficulties understanding their native language, as might as non-native speaker. < 1330445853 19838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sounds like a good thing elliott < 1330445893 772205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After 96 hours of play, they understand only basic English, and communicate exclusively in Russian or extremely fractured English. They can offer no explanation for this, yet do not find it distressing in the slightest, and express a continued compulsion and desire to play the game. < 1330445937 232149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After 120 hours of play, they lose the ability to comprehend and converse in English altogether, and their level of proficiency in Russian attains a very high state. < 1330446022 324843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After 144 hours of play, they begin to speak in an odd dialect of Russian, corresponding to no existing dialect the Foundation is aware of; they are still mutually intelligible with Russian speakers, but use odd words with unknown meaning, and develop unconventional pronunciations of existing words. This effect continues throughout 240 hours of play, by which point speakers of ordinary Russian have great difficulty communicating with the subject. < 1330446101 268060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After 336 hours of play, they speak an entirely unknown (but common to all test subjects so far) Slavic language, only tangentially related to Russian. The in-game text of SCP-1234, too, adjusts itself to the new language. < 1330446149 760900 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What next. < 1330446166 20823 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330446238 861478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No further effects are experienced until 432 hours of play are accumulated; while playing the game, it will began to behave oddly, displaying glitches, random teleportation, screen blankings, unexplainable crashes, and sub-second flashes of horrific images rendered within the game's engine. The test subject does not seem to notice these events, or is simply not bothered by them. They begin to enter a trance-like state, and will not stop playing t < 1330446239 47873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he game. If force is used to remove them from their play, they will react crazed and violently, with force surpassing that of a normal human, often killing those attempting to remove the player. However, ordinary firearms are enough to kill the test subject at this stage. < 1330446375 274570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At 438 hours of play, the test subject, still in their trance, suddenly stops moving their hands and ceases play. The computer display starts to flicker wildly, producing, in quick succession, a long series of disturbing images similar to, but more intense than, the ones displayed at 432 hours of play. After 1 minute of this state passes, the computer running SCP-1234 will instantly turn off (and becomes irreparably broken), while the subject rem < 1330446375 501339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ains in their trance-like state, completely still, for another sixty seconds. < 1330446382 349563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At that time, [DATA EXPUNGED] < 1330446384 589680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: HAPPY NOW < 1330446402 790941 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1330446446 519263 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, kind of went downhill. < 1330446473 71427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'M NOT GETTING PAID HERE < 1330446520 685827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Anyway, what happens next is they turn into Slenderman and go on a caving adventure with Ted. < 1330446531 159402 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1330446661 283351 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNw2YcAK9Wc < 1330446662 9407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1330446662 196101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That rubbish was *almost* edging towards being interesting, too. < 1330446663 967028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to ruin it! < 1330446680 876477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language-takeover thing is an interesting concept, at least. < 1330446737 776394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I love YouTube videos that start with like half a second of manic intro. < 1330446743 735328 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK basically I have decided that the adolescent/young adult male American accent is a curse upon the world and must be destroyed. < 1330446797 807808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've been doing this all night" < 1330446950 240751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So are these cats an official thing < 1330446955 377500 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1330446957 319595 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes they are. < 1330446959 531531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1330447043 848278 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330447059 172412 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-213-164.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That would be a California accent, if it's what I think it is. < 1330447084 558268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T TRY AND BLAME CALIFORNIA < 1330447112 171863 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-213-164.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, but, it's their accent? < 1330447163 67868 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, pikhq_. < 1330447182 672449 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's every accent of that description with an insufficiently small number of exceptions. < 1330448669 718394 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330448796 936556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers that there's a surprisingly large number of Humble Bundle games which he couldn't run before. < 1330449061 464439 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330449067 970492 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1330449113 38452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330449137 435130 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend challenged me not to go on Wikipedia until the end of Lent. < 1330449148 796242 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I extended that voluntarily to TVTropes as well < 1330449154 156684 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND IT'S SO DIFFICULT < 1330449161 578576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like bent. < 1330449184 75960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, a cool new esolang: http://bit.ly/bTqWYW < 1330449389 451314 :graue!~sf@c-75-72-201-81.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330449484 608312 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue! < 1330449488 507806 :graue!~sf@c-75-72-201-81.hsd1.mn.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1330449495 853318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship graue. < 1330450837 999875 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that you telling me that graue is here, or you assigning friendship as an adjective to graue? < 1330451046 669993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's a commandment < 1330451087 640704 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY GRYAYEYYAYUUUEUE < 1330451155 372892 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I challenge you to give up Lent next year. < 1330451385 285265 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dreamviews.org/f17/dreamviews-hacked-hijacked-128707/ < 1330451468 524040 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why is my WM so buggy? < 1330451488 667319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because you bought the wrong laptop! < 1330451499 142675 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1330451505 679975 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix it. < 1330451610 804592 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1330451757 56903 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330451797 513732 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-86-186.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1330452330 44322 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1330452651 717769 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330452687 832685 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies like bird < 1330452688 19533 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh man, not one, not one, but *TWO* Loper OS posts I missed! < 1330452688 19713 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Time for ag < 1330452695 212793 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, effing copy and paste. < 1330452702 147335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2012/0227-video-games-depict-religion-as-violent-problematized-mu-study-shows/ < 1330452707 219173 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE TABLES HAVE TURNED < 1330452722 970846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lies like a bird are the worst kind of lies. < 1330452727 174380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mr. Logreader. < 1330452761 910485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like Lies With the Sea but with less Bowman. < 1330452776 244822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: heh, "portrays Knights Templar" is really their criterion? < 1330452795 783951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, that thing actually ends "--30--" < 1330452798 301077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oldschool < 1330452807 517895 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; also it's funny because TES religion is like 5 times more complicated than any actual religion. < 1330452983 189860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like making some tweets about different kinds of bark. < 1330453051 376768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1330453103 459252 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I just have this urge to get into botany. < 1330453123 831530 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1330453125 143298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1330453133 424584 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1330453150 952007 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the fact that I suck at biology exams might get in the way of my drema. < 1330453153 821884 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also my dream. < 1330453205 304736 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow ow ow, my ADSL modem died (it just blinks an orange lamp when turning it on). Stuck on 3G now from my laptop. < 1330453232 875153 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, important question, what faction did you join in the Skyrim civil war questline. < 1330453233 579466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this marks the first thing Vorpal has said in months. < 1330453243 461205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly a momentous line to break the silence < 1330453245 801755 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, weeks definitely. < 1330453250 996355 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about months < 1330453256 645834 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, so I must use this precious bandwidth. < 1330453301 240734 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I didn't in my first game. Both sides are arseholes, just in different ways. Then I joined the stormcloaks in the next game and the imperials in the game after that. < 1330453301 636777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, I don't think you said anything in Jan. < 1330453316 979390 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right, so that is "month" not "months" < 1330453320 407973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit how am I meant to hate you for that. < 1330453331 475733 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, are you meant to? < 1330453354 728531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I was hoping you'd joined the Stormcloaks so I could hate you, also Sweden, even more. < 1330453374 309589 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, but seriously both sides /are/ areseholes. There is no way you can sympathise with the Thalmor (sp?) and Ulfric Stormcloak is a racist. < 1330453405 999007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"areseholes" is a word in no dialect. < 1330453412 382471 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1330453417 656122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "arse" is (C) (exclusively licensed to) britain, you totally can't use that < 1330453421 926056 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :arsehole* < 1330453432 500148 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you prefer me to use american spelling? < 1330453450 672793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're Swedish! I don't really prefer, I just... prohibit. < 1330453464 674371 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1330453570 592534 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has embraced my hatred of swedes :') < 1330453623 677127 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, recently I have been playing Oblivion though. If you compare vanilla Oblivon (no Shivering Isles, that just skews the comparison even more in favour of Oblivion) and vanilla Skyrim I feel that while there are areas that were improved in Skyrim (graphics obviously, also the left/right hand wielding is nice, and the AI is better) the quests seems to lack depth in Skryim, not that the quest < 1330453623 964933 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :s didn't lack that in Oblivion as well, but Skyrim is worse there. < 1330453671 456449 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, also did you know that Skyrim was developed for CONSOLES and has INFERIOR GRAPHICS unlike THE WITCHER " < 1330453679 588748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(" is the capital form of 2.) < 1330453705 605327 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare the mage college quests lines in the two games for example, that one is very short in Skyrim compared to the one in Oblivion. The same is true (but to a lesser extent) with some of the other quest lines (fighter's guild vs. companions for example) < 1330453743 337533 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the individual quests aren't all that interesting in Skyrim compared to the ones in Oblivion, at least to me. < 1330453802 385429 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway both games have terrible user interfaces for PC, they are just terrible in different ways. At least the Oblivion one doesn't randomly select a different dialogue option than the one you clicked on though. < 1330453852 544143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330453877 724516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1330453880 651381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, who changed the join message? < 1330453885 741804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hi < 1330453892 627767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that I don't like the new one, I was just surprised < 1330453894 205244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1330453938 464495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you? < 1330453940 200770 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, from what I heard there are expansion packs planned for Skyrim though (in plural, don't know how many though). If they are all as good as Shivering Isles, then I think the scales could tip over in favour of Skyrim. < 1330453949 392222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it say now? < 1330453964 170283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't me < 1330453969 242652 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ChanServ- [#esoteric] Welcome to the esoteric programming channel! Check out our sub-lime wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ < 1330453971 422040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can find out with a simple /cycle! < 1330453979 723011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or asking someone, I guess < 1330453981 718260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1330453981 905624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1330453986 547171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so I do < 1330453992 703348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame oerjan < 1330453997 530737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that pun has to go < 1330454057 653235 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :https over 3G over bluetooth is so slow :( < 1330454066 134883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly wasn't me, but I did half-smile at "sub-lime" the other day. < 1330454119 364201 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330454139 451971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: completely esoteric MW trivia question: why do the devs not like proposals to have a way to hide the title on the Main Page? < 1330454157 712764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1330454161 978445 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330454166 963449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost as if you aren't an endless tome of knowledge :/ < 1330454171 687317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to rely on fizzie instead < 1330454244 532753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, security update in Ruby < 1330454246 961237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a little interesting < 1330454258 393888 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh? < 1330454316 578931 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll have to download that then. Ouch. (FYI: My ADSL modem died like half an hour ago, so I'm on really slow tethered 3G) < 1330454321 981537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOSes due to intentional hash collisiosn < 1330454325 327410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*collisons < 1330454328 562316 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1330454331 988873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and predictable random number generation < 1330454335 798730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's the one all the interpreters have been fixing < 1330454336 726609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember Perl patching around that years ago < 1330454337 577556 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, bad hash in a hash table? < 1330454338 38342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hash collision one < 1330454341 661495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, perl got it years ago < 1330454350 388379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but every other language took until a month or so when it was rediscovered < 1330454354 773400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what about Java? < 1330454364 991677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure they /can/ change String.hashCode() without breaking things < 1330454365 781956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone's ever managed to use a Hashmap < 1330454367 535023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's theoretical < 1330454367 763299 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was it rediscovered like a month ago? < 1330454382 658509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: uhh... with a brain? < 1330454384 153888 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I actually used it once. It was in a java course at university though. < 1330454384 958178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's the hashtable impl that changes < 1330454389 932023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the hashes themselves < 1330454399 309483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, hmm < 1330454404 350758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1330454415 149047 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330454416 239023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't you intentionally just get a bunch of strings with the same hashCode, and then no matter what the hashtable impl, you'd get a DOS? < 1330454435 432283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the hashtable does some kind of random salting or something < 1330454439 334581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too tired to remember the fix < 1330454491 914173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who remembers when the frappr was in the chanserv welcome message? < 1330454496 325857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uphill both ways and so on < 1330454660 915342 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-215-158.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330454672 559078 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-213-164.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1330454715 984665 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember asking why it was there when it didn't work waaay back. < 1330454786 577276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tradition < 1330454788 15886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :purity < 1330454789 369320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :family values < 1330454897 107792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I thought the usual fix was a random salt in the hash function < 1330454908 913318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I remember the frappr thing < 1330454916 618406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even remember when it worked :) < 1330455043 656047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, and Yahoo! has threatened to sue Facebook over patent infringement < 1330455135 174335 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: This laptop has the hard drive activity light *behind the lid*. < 1330455142 259880 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can't see it while actually using the computer. < 1330455170 977475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do people use hard drive activity lights for nowadays anyway? < 1330455243 845392 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, checking if the disk is active? When you have a slow disk and the system is acting sluggish it makes it easy to check if IO is the cause < 1330455267 806572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that's reasonable < 1330455271 280345 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I have a fairly average 5400 RPM HDD in my laptop, it has a HDD light too (just below the screen) < 1330455275 96957 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is kind of useful < 1330455291 397553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the HDD light on this laptop is just below the touchpad < 1330455293 860848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I hardly look at it < 1330455295 342471 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :much less useful with SSDs of course < 1330455312 327874 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well my laptop has 10 status lamps below the screen < 1330455338 280402 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wlan, bluetooth, numlock, capslock, hdd, power, battery, AC, suspended < 1330455347 110461 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err 9 < 1330455387 705696 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the battery one is tri-colour (green, orange, red) < 1330455437 297600 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, another question: why are there usually status lamps at each ethernet port. It isn't all that useful and surely removing them would save battery life in a laptop < 1330455438 87163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 9 here: AC, power, battery, HDD, SD card, wlan, one that's never been on and has a signal strength icon, scroll lock, numlock < 1330455455 866260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've used a system where the ethernet status lights were incredibly useful < 1330455462 267400 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh? < 1330455471 397423 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sure it is useful sometimes for debugging, indeed < 1330455472 919111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they were the only method of determining whether the system was powered on, and whether it had booted < 1330455478 217153 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1330455494 909504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and ssh was our only way to communicate with it, without reassembling the thing to have a serial port and using that) < 1330455509 188418 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not sure LEDs are a major power drain in laptops. < 1330455510 537281 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that is usually not the case for a laptop < 1330455510 847741 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, some embedded system? < 1330455519 887120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1330455538 315538 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, the ethernet leds are fairly bright compared to the normal status LEDs < 1330455541 218739 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hm < 1330455653 558839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, 17 unread Usenet messages, that's a lot < 1330455988 903790 :kmc!~keegan@c-24-130-174-20.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330456688 113557 :audy!~audy@heyaudy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330456965 312408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome audy < 1330456972 749035 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :audy: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1330456980 99879 :audy!~audy@heyaudy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott howdy < 1330457166 376326 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, the Bukkit team have *joined* Mojang. < 1330457179 560917 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, they're actual employees now. < 1330458038 351770 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my brain just exploded. < 1330458081 816661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote ghc explode < 1330458082 3459 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: My brain just exploded. < 1330458164 333472 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote ghc < 1330458164 526457 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: Exotic Stmt in meta brackets < 1330458173 98015 :kmc!~keegan@c-24-130-174-20.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ghc < 1330458173 284690 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: GHC stack-space overflow < 1330458245 19412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ghc < 1330458245 206234 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: Kind error < 1330458248 357078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ghc < 1330458248 543883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: Malformed constructor signature < 1330458250 127075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ghc < 1330458250 313683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: Unexpected type splice < 1330458250 501311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ghc < 1330458250 688121 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: accepting non-standard pattern guards (-fglasgow-exts to suppress this message) < 1330458250 874758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ghc < 1330458251 61489 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: Implicit-parameter bindings illegal in a parallel list comprehension < 1330458293 58110 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330458372 556137 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says the darndest things < 1330458390 491141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ghc darn < 1330458390 707280 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Sorry. < 1330458834 103597 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330458982 505075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ghc oh < 1330458982 733293 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: Use -fallow-incoherent-instances < 1330458986 903734 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ghc no < 1330458987 90684 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: No constructor has all these fields < 1330458996 574330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ghc oh no < 1330458996 782961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. :( < 1330459003 521871 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1330459046 157051 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, fallow is a word < 1330459058 636007 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :inactive incoherent instances? < 1330459134 31270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fallow is a bit more specific than inactive < 1330459150 848889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fallow land is land that you allowed to go wild for a year so that when you farmed it again the next year, it'd be more fertile < 1330459208 238651 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, so you tell ghc to fallow the incoherent instances so that you can use them more productively later? < 1330459386 731293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they lie in the depths < 1330459388 362653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting, lurking < 1330459461 116290 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330459645 848473 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1330459658 398710 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing programs in Fueue is hard... < 1330459834 812809 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written most of a Truth-machine in Fueue < 1330459862 682142 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need some way to get input and subtract 48 from it, then let it end up in PRECISELY the right place < 1330459959 618165 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I think [49:[49:(](!][48H]($+-49 would work < 1330459978 511365 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[49:[49:(](!][48H]($+-48 rather < 1330460444 422027 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[49(:[49(:](!][48H]($+-48 and I'm pretty much certain that works < 1330460481 138300 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1330460481 325006 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330460482 850889 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1330460483 681648 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: help on how to think of it as " call-by-need" because unlike call-by-name, it caches the value of the current position in the global environment of the cond-it _module_, if-it is still bound in the usage environment. < 1330460508 73083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330460516 117477 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330460559 685075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330460607 87127 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-234.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1330460607 273548 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-234.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1330460607 273686 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1330460691 315573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330460694 940390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330460698 47687 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330460702 558451 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330460709 713456 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1330460711 282044 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330460716 720015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1330460719 101036 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1330460722 382595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1330460723 89739 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hammertime < 1330460725 672739 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1330460729 516733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the worst hi outbreak in months < 1330460748 914686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if nobody has the strength to stop them before they go too far, humanity itself could be at risk < 1330460754 950935 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330460757 507918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCP-hi < 1330460804 960972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix id < 1330460805 737877 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. a < 1330460835 48843 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t undefined < 1330460835 843898 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. a < 1330460967 182789 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC Monty Python had a sketch about a meeting of n people requiring n·(n−1)/2 handshakes. < 1330461144 338729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You can say "triangular number", you know. < 1330461183 851338 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: I failed to remember the function’s name at the time. < 1330461237 134003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you failed to remember my name at the critical moment, too. :( < 1330461252 435497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to http://www.downloadmoreram.com/ for your brain. < 1330461317 684824 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was just a typo. :-) < 1330461351 867325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to make some typos of my own, if you know what I mean. What I mean is that I'm going to bed. < 1330461374 896347 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :…in bed! < 1330461391 656603 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can add “in bed” to anything… in bed!) < 1330461487 484117 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-144.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1330461605 112277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think that doesn't actually imply that you're going to bed < 1330461659 670590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1330461817 715483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1330461943 227863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:33:12: i blame oerjan < 1330461943 414676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:33:17: and that pun has to go < 1330461947 887849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OVER MY DEAD BODY < 1330461997 526074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least someone noticed. < 1330462061 776028 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1330462092 857788 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1330462142 244938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn touchpad acting up < 1330462165 705699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: I'll try a reboot < 1330462260 60215 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the pun? was it a good pun? < 1330462272 831979 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is its relation to oerjan? < 1330462305 220998 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, /cycle and read the join message (if it is still there) < 1330462380 211360 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cycle? < 1330462392 850972 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, parts and joins the channel again in most clients < 1330462411 152787 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :channels have join messages? < 1330462414 236245 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, if you want to know the pun that is < 1330462438 631282 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PART :#esoteric < 1330462438 818122 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1330462474 180666 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "Check out our sub-lime wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/" < 1330462493 304777 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that funny :( < 1330462497 715528 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even that punny < 1330462513 721407 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove the hyphen and it'll get better < 1330462532 84435 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes the wiki sublime? < 1330462566 358139 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :irrelevant < 1330462583 980230 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, the logo < 1330462655 585758 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyphenating sub-lime makes it too obvious < 1330462662 57290 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is lasting 7 years for a consumer ADSL modem bad or good? < 1330462683 48295 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just looked up the date when I bought my ADSL modem to check if there was still any warranty, of course there wasn < 1330462686 858343 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't)* < 1330462699 763349 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting @sub-lime < 1330462724 678128 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that supposed to be the "featured" languages list? < 1330462743 995404 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. < 1330462751 41158 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1330462759 117952 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it does that for every search string with a - < 1330462873 213297 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind if I ask a C dev question about an esoteric language I'm writing? < 1330462898 394474 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, go ahead < 1330462963 858583 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c dev? < 1330462967 591881 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well currently, I have the entire thing written, but it's having some funny errors. The language is based on brainf***, but each cell is a stack. anyways when I try to interpret: '!\'d\'l\'r\'o\'W\0#' \>'o\'l\'l\'e\'H\[./]<[/.] it should output "Hello World!" < 1330463014 864753 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it outputs "HelloWorld!" Instead, I can make it output hello world by doubling the ' \\>, but I shouldn't have to....if I don't change cells and just do '!\'d\'l\'r\'o\'W\' \'o\'l\'l\'e\'H\[/.] it works fine < 1330463058 827318 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the source: http://pastie.org/private/dxlpozwrkgqr3ztbfxtcgg < 1330463074 906522 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note this is my first C program) >_< < 1330463146 729838 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, so far, I've been able to reduce the source to about 500 bytes. < 1330463155 764430 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1330463297 718190 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1330463386 550725 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goosey: Where do you put the characters on the stack? < 1330463438 144784 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time you do '!\ it pushes that character to the current cell's stack < 1330463482 523801 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the first one which is broken pushes " World!" to the first cell stack, moves to the second and pushes "Hello" to it, then moves to the first and recursively prints it, where it then moves to the second and does the same. < 1330463513 477815 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now, it seems like the last character before a move cell symbol(><) needs to be pushed to the cell twice to be printed < 1330463626 265830 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's stack_s for? < 1330463645 116900 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the stack pointers? < 1330463654 756318 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack_s retains the size of the stack for each cell < 1330463673 162141 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way, when I move to another cell, it'll start at whatever item was last pushed < 1330463680 334876 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems to be the area of the problem < 1330463685 720855 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1330463703 294623 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack_s[cell] = --st_point;? < 1330463729 500967 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330463747 324041 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1330463750 918046 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the st_point contains the actual value of the stack's depth < 1330463763 522357 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack_s[cell] associates it with the correct cell < 1330463838 647371 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that redundant? < 1330463859 777463 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought so too, but when I tried removing it, the thing broke, so there is something that is making use of it < 1330463876 122055 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463877 106215 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463878 859766 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463879 46512 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463879 46666 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-253-217.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463879 419923 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463879 606623 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463879 606772 :zbrown!~zbrown@unaffiliated/zbrown QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463880 189150 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :*.net 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:Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463887 444991 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463887 984441 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463888 261443 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463888 952664 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463889 482740 :kmc!~keegan@c-24-130-174-20.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463890 350780 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-029-066.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463891 239135 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1330463892 142293 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just fill stack_s with n*(int)128 < 1330463911 308352 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now stack_s is a relative pointer from the middle of the stack 128 < 1330463919 376637 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 377812 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:Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 378832 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 380096 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 380190 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-253-217.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 380264 :Tiktalik!znc@ec2-46-137-240-165.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 380337 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 380411 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 380483 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 380556 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 380627 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 380700 :zbrown!~zbrown@unaffiliated/zbrown JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 563290 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 563439 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 563514 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463919 563588 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463923 867220 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you do st_point = 128 + stack_s[cell] < 1330463942 751746 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1330463948 761164 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't figure out how to initialize the entire stack < 1330463956 91536 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :calloc? < 1330463960 721913 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that was a dirty hack.. < 1330463963 752469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1330463973 780396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!languages < 1330463981 673856 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :With calloc you can get a zero initialized array < 1330463985 112436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1330463985 422877 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1330463990 702391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1330463990 958376 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1330463994 703247 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a 128 initialized array :( < 1330464002 177250 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1330464003 41119 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1330464005 513092 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fault :) < 1330464011 414185 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :memset? < 1330464038 886042 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tried that, but let me try again < 1330464078 676177 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also use structs < 1330464098 608076 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct cell { int st_pointer; char[] stack; } or something like that < 1330464137 704573 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why is the stack pointer 128 < 1330464139 759417 :Senya!~administr@85.115.248.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330464145 616038 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the size of the stack is 256? < 1330464162 963467 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you just do pop/push combinations there is no reason to start in the middle of the stack? < 1330464163 994518 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, so so that you can start giving it negative values < 1330464172 646884 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. ok. < 1330464178 133917 :Senya!~administr@85.115.248.237 PART :#esoteric < 1330464186 185167 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, what if some guy popped before he pushed? < 1330464190 544434 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1330464197 964029 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually that'd crash a program < 1330464202 858656 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of a sick fuck would do that anyway. < 1330464205 836299 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't pop what's not there. < 1330464209 545547 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ! < 1330464219 664402 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but in mine, it'll just pop a 0; < 1330464220 440890 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or yeah < 1330464224 280322 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what punkt would do that ;) < 1330464227 206567 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :-t < 1330464245 456578 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should just rewrite the entire thing now that I'm a bit better in C < 1330464255 95492 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I literally wrote that while I was reading the tutorials xD < 1330464256 369930 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats like asking for data which is not present :) < 1330464282 371068 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey! Gimme the book on top of that empty non-existing stack of books!" < 1330464290 960408 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1330464321 20870 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sure. No problem." < 1330464427 597794 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what are structures? just a way of organizing a set of variables? < 1330464449 373816 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1330464469 463535 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct point { int x; int y }; allows you to write stuff like < 1330464480 376048 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct point myPoint; point.x = 5; point.y = -1; < 1330464492 350578 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat < 1330464520 838951 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can typedef so you don't have to write struct everytime < 1330464527 511101 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :typedef struct point { ... } point; < 1330464533 645208 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can write < 1330464537 139581 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :point myPoint; < 1330464547 918264 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cNice < 1330464572 15859 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you stuff function pointers into a struct you almost have OOP ;) < 1330464589 637433 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what OOP is x) < 1330464597 368348 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Object oriented programming. < 1330464602 35189 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most evil kind of programming. < 1330464605 552565 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that :P I just don't know what it is. < 1330464624 329577 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been programming in Haskell, Prolog, and Assembly for the past few years < 1330464646 762642 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never really got Prolog, sadly as it is. < 1330464656 716118 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do okay in Haskell. < 1330464661 997309 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it, but it felt limiting, which is why I started learning haskell < 1330464685 824796 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been on a binge, haven't programmed in a while, so I'm trying to learn them all again < 1330464718 85585 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one really knows what OOP is. < 1330464744 778470 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried C, but it felt kinda gross ;S < 1330464747 394394 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++* < 1330464755 181319 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is like C with OOP. < 1330464763 705589 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pure evil C. < 1330464778 849533 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1330464782 159675 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1330464782 560403 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm a little bit < 1330464788 646853 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :pre-something-something < 1330464803 190576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :prejudiced < 1330464822 564211 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "biased" < 1330464832 751971 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are those synonyms? < 1330464841 566358 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought biased comes from "Biatch". < 1330464852 507756 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... not... very... nice... < 1330464854 186385 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're sorta synonyms... < 1330464865 93855 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Biased is just your point of view really. < 1330464911 601550 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being biased is just having your own opinion based off personal experience or your likes/dislikes < 1330464966 437253 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1330464992 839070 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't describe things well xD < 1330465006 784495 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The conversion from abstract to concrete isn't something I excel at. < 1330465070 719704 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1330465142 504628 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for now I fixed it using a very shameful method >_> < 1330465191 633098 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1330465215 131820 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto? < 1330465229 471435 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :inline assembly? < 1330465233 119641 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not so shameful. < 1330465237 402878 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : case '\\': tpush(); if((fpeek(file) == '>') ||(fpeek(file) == '<')) tpush();break; < 1330465270 153805 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll just push a second time if it notices the \ is followed by one of those :| < 1330465274 463911 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like a workaround for something. < 1330465277 957815 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1330465301 326668 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like using duct tape to patch up a car window or something >_> < 1330465314 244451 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mythbusters proved that possible \o/ < 1330465314 838575 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                   | < 1330465315 25106 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                  /< < 1330465320 828478 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1330465341 302614 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they do everything with duct tape. < 1330465350 499189 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except new episodes :( < 1330465355 336654 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like patching a window with scotch tape >_> < 1330465364 725067 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen myth busters in a couple years sadly :| < 1330465376 706825 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last episode was probably the thermite through metal one.. < 1330465393 573587 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They met obama in one episode < 1330465397 868009 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the last I remember. < 1330465427 246111 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he insisted on retesting a myth they tested for over 3 or 4 episodes. < 1330465461 617007 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid archimedes mirror thingy ;) < 1330465570 329083 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1330465577 268212 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that episode < 1330465658 826206 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, Is there a quick way to get a character and convert it to it's numeric value < 1330465674 857146 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like toint(getchar()) < 1330465721 638933 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :may bad < 1330465726 435632 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it < 1330465779 608308 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330465800 822596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure C's getchar() returns an int (so that it can give a different value for EOF) < 1330465811 726650 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1330465838 265717 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I meant to say a string to int but it seems that's what atoi does < 1330465840 283541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the C unlambda interpreter had a bug due to using char instead < 1330465841 796153 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DE79.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330465897 575017 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1330465902 167581 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1330465913 180005 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :A character is a numeric value < 1330465935 325706 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1330465939 385134 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330465941 634475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which caused some minor trouble with my unlambda in unlambda interpreter when running it with itself < 1330465943 7189 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a numeric value! I am a free character! < 1330465950 4707 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just needed a way for the user to input newlines and other unprintable characters < 1330465972 350656 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually overdo it with esolangs :) < 1330465980 407370 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Stlisp or Stlang < 1330465987 815198 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are even more high-level than C. < 1330465989 955667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it can be "fixed" by just replacing the ?\255 in the program with something else) < 1330465996 156932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1330466003 95869 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp is pretty similar to Haskell < 1330466009 619829 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No way. < 1330466012 952393 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp is not even pure. < 1330466016 548762 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1330466032 492996 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But They are more similar than Lisp and C or any other language :P < 1330466035 326435 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Lips have Typeclasses? < 1330466037 428357 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Lisp < 1330466046 36486 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue. < 1330466053 395361 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or anything < 1330466057 465435 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like pattern matching? < 1330466062 43969 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.e < 1330466065 450099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's preventing a lisp from having typeclasses < 1330466080 290363 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that much of lisp. < 1330466083 306113 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, the only reason I say it's similar is because I saw that you could do anonymous functions and it had lists.... < 1330466088 521516 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1330466092 721933 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But something which is not pure is no way like haskell. < 1330466098 847311 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then python would be like haskell. < 1330466104 285537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goosey: i think that's almost like those who cannot see the difference between people of other "races" < 1330466105 896291 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Javascript would even be more like haskell than python. < 1330466106 88354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: python can't do anonymous functions < 1330466111 478456 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Hu? < 1330466112 792105 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda? < 1330466122 91989 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :reduce(lambda a,b:a+b,*args); < 1330466123 808671 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda is different from normal functions in python < 1330466134 107914 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Not that much. < 1330466139 122777 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't use statements in lambda < 1330466140 111201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda can only do expressions, not sequences of statements. it's a pretty big difference < 1330466151 468625 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :statements are not pure, so yeah. < 1330466157 241379 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :expressions aren't pure either < 1330466158 776844 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good thing @no statements < 1330466180 515974 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so really that's irrelevant < 1330466222 6449 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can work around much of it though. < 1330466225 568394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pattern matching can be implemented with lisp macros, i think < 1330466229 287715 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can assign something to a variable in a lambda < 1330466240 234287 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a = 5) && False or something like that works. < 1330466240 713492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not traditional lisp < 1330466252 221263 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: but then you're working around it < 1330466271 199883 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: If I had to workaround something I wouldn't use lambda < 1330466275 186400 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd use closures then < 1330466295 631223 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :def foo(): def foobar(): ... < 1330466329 143130 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like how you can emulate that sort of thing in C with enough effort < 1330466338 162699 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1330466362 407129 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we can not argue with that. < 1330466375 793331 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because somehow it must be possible to emulate that sort of thing in brainfuck ;) < 1330466397 626588 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :* is a pointer and & is the address in the pointer right? < 1330466399 212542 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then brainfuck is similar to haskell, it seems < 1330466404 530958 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always mix the 2 up < 1330466409 774217 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :& is the adress of a variable < 1330466423 49052 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int a = 5; int ptr_to_a = &a; < 1330466426 247578 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*int* < 1330466429 672787 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1330466479 845452 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int* i; i is a pointer; *i is the value behind the pointer to i < 1330466487 516621 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and &i would be a pointer to a pointer < 1330466501 589990 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1330466514 384746 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. time for sleep. < 1330466515 662712 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :gn8. < 1330466524 814161 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night < 1330466555 100214 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: they're both turing complete? :) < 1330466913 924791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:40:59: -!- elliott has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). < 1330466914 111609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:43:37: -!- oerjan has joined #esoteric. < 1330466931 242875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i have a feeling the universe is trying to keep me from meeting people today < 1330466987 350216 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well now that it's working I have a little program that tests whether it's 0 or not: ^\['Y./>+\<]>-\['N./] < 1330467004 108602 :Goosey!~Goose@cpe-72-178-49-126.elp.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll print Y on 0 and N for everything else < 1330467108 917428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hyphenating sub-lime makes it too obvious < 1330467123 782334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but - would people notice it at all otherwise < 1330467149 150771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, y'all are too damn hard to please. < 1330467156 433707 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would just be nonsensical without the hyphen < 1330467165 333776 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said, what's sublime about it? < 1330467172 475248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330467522 72280 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my preference is to err on the side of oversubtle nonjokes, then spoil them later < 1330467526 294505 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bad style, bad monqy" < 1330467590 631412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION subtly swats monqy -----### < 1330467725 64079 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how do I make a lisp that supports destructive updates and lexical closures and all that stuff in a language that doesn't have it? < 1330467731 331526 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(preferrably without doing any work and/or thinking) < 1330467793 547145 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 1. think; step 2. do work < 1330467816 65871 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg that solution is 100% wrong < 1330467907 190194 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I'll just do purely functional lisp instead < 1330468029 583064 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, it might not actually be that hard to build a heap-like thing where stack frames can live and be modified, and thread the updated heap through the whole thing < 1330468474 823320 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330468621 403516 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330468786 225691 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-248.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330468819 930623 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-215-158.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1330468996 118735 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.159 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330469661 183734 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1330469681 184537 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1330470866 965663 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.159 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330471178 594290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why opening gvim has recently started pegging cpu to 100% for several seconds < 1330471228 172156 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garbage in your vimrc? < 1330471231 629401 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or gvimrc) < 1330471283 839764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it started after i ditched avg for mse < 1330471301 29697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1330471550 174407 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest that the problem is probably Windows. < 1330471766 857838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it seems that something's fishy with opening my desktop folder, even from other places than gvim < 1330471806 799152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or whatever the proper english name is) < 1330472547 371368 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-120-213.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330472550 264954 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@70.255.228.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330472550 567491 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@70.255.228.6 QUIT :Changing host < 1330472550 753918 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1330472618 548898 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-124.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330472668 424736 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-248.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1330472698 374242 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-125-130.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1330473038 419352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection