00:00:07 BogusForth website (from the Wayback Machine; retrieved on Error: invalid time) 00:00:09 getting better 00:00:11 -!- augur has joined. 00:01:10 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Sandbox yay 00:02:35 WHOAH the Wayback Machine from R&B&F was actually a "WABAC Machine" 00:02:37 Mind = blown 00:02:52 Yeah, totally backronymed. 00:02:59 -!- derdon has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:03:11 pikhq_: The acronym doesn't expand to anything, so yeah. 00:03:21 It was just made to look like an acronym but sound like "way back" 00:03:34 Wacky Acronym Bullshit: All a Con 00:06:33 Where is the nonsense in our topic from? 00:07:25 Friendship: :JUDGE: something or other 00:07:43 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wynn_Miller 00:09:07 According to Miller's teaching, the addition of hyphens and colons to one's name turns one from an ordinary, taxable human into a non-taxable “prepositional phrase.” 00:09:20 Whoaaaaaaaaaah 00:09:27 I am now GREGOR-FRIENDSHIP-RICHARDS 00:09:52 *RICHARDS: 00:10:17 Oh yes, sorry 00:10:48 -!- Friendship has changed nick to GREGOR-FRIENDSHI. 00:10:50 :( 00:11:00 -!- GREGOR-FRIENDSHI has changed nick to Friendship. 00:11:01 gregor friendsky 00:11:07 I think the government should actually have a system whereby you can indeed withdraw from your "legal persona" and be exempt from paying taxes, so long as you give up all possessions of that legal persona and no longer partake in the use of anything ever funded by taxes. 00:11:28 All the conspiracy theorists would have to just go off into the wilderness and pick themselves off one by one. 00:12:28 oerjan: btw the "external resources link" in http://esolangs.org/wiki/Language_list's TOC is now pointless... as is the "Top of page" one for that matter 00:12:39 not sure how to adjust the TOC without it looking uglier though 00:13:04 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:13:51 elliott: Highly tempting. I'm not entirely sure if it's actually implementable, but it would be nice to be able to have the crazies just... Not be in our legal system. 00:14:02 Become not human person? But still apply sales tax anyways? 00:14:26 zzo38: No, they would be exempt from all taxes and exempt from all tax-paid services. 00:14:26 zzo38: No, what are you talking about? You can't *buy* things if you don't have a legal person. 00:14:34 zzo38: More like non-person human. And you certainly won't buy things from stores, that needs money and roads. 00:14:39 This would include the regulated markets. 00:14:44 pikhq_: (Note: This would actually just encourage them.) 00:15:09 So wait... 00:15:13 If Obama doesn't have a birth certificate... 00:15:18 Does that mean he doesn't have to pay taxes? 00:15:20 WHOA 00:15:45 elliott: Except their life expectancy would be approximately the same as the life expectancy of early agricultural societies. 00:15:56 Or, if they're lucky, a particularly incompetent hunter-gatherer band. 00:16:03 pikhq_, elliott, Friendship: You seem to be missing the point I am trying to make. (I mean you are neither human nor person; you need to do a scientific experiment to change something; and then if someone is willing to sell you stuff anyways, you still have to pay sales tax because that is paid by the vendor) 00:16:24 It's true, I often miss the points zzo38 tries to make. 00:16:47 you're talking about :David-Wynn: Miller 00:16:59 zzo38: Except they would by necessity be barred from the store, as that is in part a tax-paid service. 00:17:10 kmc: And GREGOR-FRIENDSHIP-RICHARDS: 00:17:12 kmc: No, we did that yesterday. Now we're talking about talking about :David-Wynn: Miller. 00:17:19 QUANTUM-LANGUAGE-PARSE-SYNTAX-GRAMMAR is the Correct Language, as it is based on fact. There is no ambiguity with anything Quantum, it is purely Mathematical. Have you ever thought of Language being Mathe 00:17:19 matical? 00:17:37 kmc: You're the one who started us talking about it, to be precise :P 00:17:41 yes 00:17:51 i was drunk and stoned and reading about :david-wynn: miller 00:17:54 and it reminded me of #esoteric 00:17:58 also see topic 00:18:05 excellent 00:18:31 hey oerjan should i take down the sitenotice or leave it up 00:19:04 "what is government if words have no meaning?" 00:19:36 by murphy's law, the wiki won't start breaking until you take it down. 00:22:26 pikhq_: If a window is opened and a bird flies in and knocks over the merchandise, or a meteor from space falls in and breaks the merchandise, neither birds nor meteors pay taxes...... dead people don't pay taxes either (although sometimes there are death taxes)...... 00:23:01 Yes, and none of those make transactions within our legal framework. 00:24:15 But what if a store specializes selling things to dead people? Obviously such a things would be crazy, but philosophically you have to think of it anyways 00:24:23 Just as a legally excommunicated person couldn't. 00:25:35 oerjan: ok i'll leave it up forever then 00:25:44 O KAY 00:25:48 I know some things about excommunication in the Roman Catholic Church but that is different 00:25:50 "If a window is opened and a bird flies in and knocks over the merchandise, or a meteor from space falls in and breaks the merchandise, neither birds nor meteors pay taxes" ;; this is beautiful 00:26:11 zzo38: Yes, I'm merely saying it's analogous. 00:26:32 elliott: Oops, the second comma should be a semicolon 00:26:44 That makes it worse though :( 00:27:09 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_language is a mess 00:27:13 But if it is changed to a semicolon then it means what I intended it to mean instead of what it means with two commas which is not what I intended it to mean. 00:28:10 elliott: Then fix it. 00:28:14 /nick :k-m:c 00:29:18 zzo38: i would but have no idea where to start 00:33:10 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brainfuck&diff=prev&oldid=476993420 00:33:13 hmm 00:33:18 oerjan: what do you think of the assertion that brainfuck doesn't have a tape? 00:33:27 "array" seems much less suitable to me, because of the restricted movement patterns 00:34:06 if brainfuck doesn't have a tape, then neither does a turing machine 00:34:46 wikipedia is written by retards, what did you expect 00:35:02 oklodol: that edit was made by daniel b cristofani. 00:35:15 Wikipedia is written by people other than retards too, however. 00:35:25 but mostly retards 00:35:29 OK 00:35:32 i suppose one might ask what terminology brainfuck itself uses 00:35:42 oerjan: grr, it looks like http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALinkSearch&target=*.archive.org&namespace=0's results include links by the template :( 00:35:55 oops 00:36:04 oerjan: oh, wait, easy to fix 00:36:07 I'll remove the link from the template temporarily 00:36:26 done 00:36:35 btw i've started editing some 00:36:46 from the top 00:36:52 gah still didn't help. apparently because of caching 00:36:56 oerjan: yes, i noticed :) 00:38:23 * elliott starts from the bottom to avoid conflicts 00:38:28 THANK YOU 00:38:56 editing whta? 00:39:01 *thaw 00:40:46 http://esolangs.org/wiki/MechaniQue we need a {{complete mess}} to stick on things like this 00:40:51 elliott: um your removing the link means i cannot see if my edit looks right 00:41:39 oerjan: well ok i can put it back 00:41:52 done 00:42:26 elliott: what's wrong with MechaniQue? seems more thought out than a lot of stuff in there. 00:42:34 insanely boring naturally 00:45:33 oerjan: :D this wayback link is a {{deadlink}} 00:45:38 * elliott fixes it 00:45:49 * elliott considers plugging it into the wayback amchine 00:45:58 *machine 00:46:27 elliott, is it turing complete?? 00:46:52 what 00:47:11 the word "it" 00:47:47 hm i think we _don't_ want the template on the EsoInterpreters page. 00:48:04 ugh, don't remind me of EsoInterpreters 00:48:09 it desperately needs to be maintained by a bot 00:48:34 oerjan: btw you haven't been marking your edits as minor :P ...come to think of it, I don't think that actually has any use on Esolang 00:51:27 i didn't think these were minor enough 00:51:38 i guess i could 00:52:29 back 00:52:40 oerjan: i wasn't complaining, just noting in case you intended to but forgot 00:53:10 i've often gone on minor-edit sprees and forgotten to mark them half-way through 00:53:22 hmm, EsoInterpreters should really have a better tite 00:53:23 title 00:53:36 EsotericTers 00:58:04 -!- pikhq has joined. 00:58:04 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 01:00:09 oerjan: haha, i clicked to edit a page with the old links 01:00:14 and you had already got there before it loaded 01:01:51 Esotericist, maybe? 01:02:37 MDude: wat 01:03:14 http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/esotericist 01:03:22 * elliott knows, but isn't sure of relevance 01:03:38 hmm, EsoInterpreters should really have a better tite 01:03:42 -!- azaq23 has joined. 01:03:56 -!- azaq23 has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 01:04:06 I figures a noun relating to the esoteric could work. 01:04:10 *figured 01:04:53 [[EsoInterpreters]] is a page on the wiki 01:04:56 -!- azaq23 has joined. 01:05:03 it's actually just a matrix or cross-reference of interpreters of esoteric languages in other esoteric languages 01:05:03 elliott: looks like we've met in the middle? 01:05:09 but that's a bit too long for a title 01:05:25 oerjan: oh, I started doing them slower and semi-randomly because I brb'd for a while and have a headache 01:05:31 sorry 01:05:38 probably all of them are done now, though 01:06:12 looks it 01:08:18 you've checked with that link removal thing? 01:09:05 oerjan: well it didn't really seem to work the last time, I think template stuff actually isn't shown 01:09:07 but there's a cache 01:09:10 so I'll check again later 01:11:26 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:24:12 Ummm 01:24:13 I think to the vast majority of the planet, all programming language is esoteric... NERDS!- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 18:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC) 01:32:07 well it _is_ true. 01:33:18 -!- cheater__ has joined. 01:33:35 fsvo esoteric :P 01:34:22 * elliott suddenly realises what he's been doing wrong all this time 01:34:33 oerjan: i'm making you an administrator, and putting you in charge of controversial deletion discussions 01:36:01 what? 01:36:03 not even a single AAAA? 01:36:22 -!- cheater_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:40:47 "Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg" // this is the single most likely name in the history of the world. 01:41:16 My best friend is an Al-Silverburg 01:44:00 oerjan: btw you started esointerpreters right 01:47:19 i was away 01:47:26 um and no i don't think so 01:47:32 oh, ok 01:47:50 i'd imagine the history page might tell... 01:48:18 nthern apparently 01:48:19 Friendship: needs more chinese 01:48:30 but you worked a lot on it :P 01:48:44 maybe. 01:49:35 http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/appeal2010/bundles.png 01:49:37 LET'S GET READY TO BUNDLE 01:52:35 "How to Grow a Unix Beard" INCLUDED FREE, LIMITED TIME OFFER 01:53:01 (free as in beard?) 01:56:31 :D 01:58:59 "This book collects the writing of Richard Stallman in a manner that will make its subtlety and power clear." 01:59:07 If there's one thing I associate with rms, it's subtlety. 01:59:26 Especially his writing. 02:08:16 -!- zzo38 has joined. 02:11:18 elliott: HLEP my battery is running out. 02:11:37 What decision could I have made in the recent past that would be causing it not to run out right now. 02:12:09 Discharging the battery 02:12:58 shachaf: Buying another laptop. 02:13:06 One with a longer battery. 02:13:23 I'm pretty another laptop's battery would have been shorter. 02:14:43 oerjan: [[LOLCODE]] says "This article is a stub, which means that it is not detailed enough and needs to be expanded. Please help us by adding some more information." 02:14:48 oerjan: i think we should remove everything after the first comma. 02:15:24 ...including the article that follows 02:16:08 elliott: What about the comma? 02:17:17 i think you are joking. 02:18:25 oerjan: really? 02:18:31 i could do it, you know 02:18:35 NOBODY COULD STOP ME 02:20:08 I really like that we've somehow established this ritual of implementing Deadfish in a language to be an insult to both the language and Deadfish. 02:20:50 -!- cswords_ has joined. 02:21:50 * shachaf looks up Deadfish. 02:22:42 Why would you waste your breath insulting Deadfish? 02:22:54 It looks like a fine language for exactly the thing that it's meant for. 02:23:08 It's a... tributeinsult. 02:23:23 My battery is about to run out. :-( 02:23:31 HLEP ME, elliott 02:23:53 If I become disconnected, the only th#*#@*R$#@NO CARRIER 02:24:11 Did you know I woke up at 10 pm? 02:24:42 -!- cswords has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:24:56 believable 02:25:45 What the fuck just happened to my reputation trail. :( 02:27:27 did esowiki happen 02:29:42 :'( 02:30:21 Oh, it fixed itself. 02:35:36 * oerjan does not think it's an insult to either party 02:39:52 oerjan: i refuse to believe the proliferation of deadfish interpreters started because it is a good language 02:44:57 mhm 03:07:29 Maybe it started because it's a kind of cool sounding name? 03:09:02 http://www.toplessrobot.com/2012/03/optimus_prime_politely_suggests_we_all_go_to_space.php 03:22:30 -!- itidus21 has joined. 03:28:24 e 03:29:36 -!- cheater__ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 03:34:55 e 03:36:26 e 03:36:44 welcome to the world's worst ghost containment facility 03:36:51 it's a cardboard box 03:37:39 nothing a handful of pentagrams cannot fix 03:40:17 no pentagrams 03:40:18 only crayons 03:40:26 sheesh 03:40:35 * oerjan draws a pentagram with a crayon 03:40:41 no 03:40:42 the ghost 03:40:42 stops you 03:40:44 HOW HARD CAN IT BE? 03:40:44 it says 03:40:46 "please don't" 03:40:50 "please" 03:40:53 "thanks" 03:40:58 ic 03:41:03 "i love birds" 03:41:06 says the ghost 03:41:20 * oerjan draws a sparrow on the box 03:41:28 ghost goes into the box 03:41:28 smiles 03:41:30 it's happy now 03:41:33 world's best ghost containment facility 03:41:39 yay 03:52:04 monqy awarded best ghost container prize 03:52:07 "accident" 03:52:41 fine, fine, you just make him an admin as well. 03:55:16 oerjan awarded best wiki admin 03:55:18 "even bigger accident" 03:55:38 yay 03:55:47 "It was all because of hard work" 03:56:26 one of these days i'll make oerjan a wiki admin and who will be laughing then 03:59:34 the ghosts. eerily. 03:59:43 but they're adorable 04:18:13 -!- tikfreenode has joined. 04:23:00 -!- tikfreenode has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:24:09 oerjan: have yuo ever curated a museum of deer 04:24:21 nope 04:24:33 interesting 04:24:34 interesting 04:24:34 interesting 04:24:35 interesting 04:24:48 have you ever flew into a barrel while aiming a shotgun at the empire state building 04:25:46 ...no... 04:26:16 interesting 04:26:17 interesting 04:26:17 interesting 04:26:18 interesting 04:26:24 food -> 04:26:27 have you ever shown the sun's rings to anybody over the age of 741 04:26:50 not that i am aware 04:27:00 and finally: have you ever looked fresh turpentine in the eye in summer or spring 04:31:56 i don't think i have ever found the eyes 04:32:03 you have passed the test. welcome to the ranks of the wiki administrators. 04:33:15 (every time i do this i wonder whether it'll be funnier to make this time the one i actually do it or to wait) 04:39:05 ^rainbow ^celebrate 04:39:05 ^celebrate 04:39:07 ^celebrate 04:39:07 \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ 04:39:08 ¦ | | `\o/´ | | | `\o/´ | | | 04:39:08 ´¸¨ /| >\ | >\ >\ /| | /| /`\ /| 04:39:08 /`\ /`¯|_) 04:39:08 (_| |_) (_| 04:39:15 ^rainbow \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ 04:39:15 \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ 04:39:23 myndzi: id like to report a deficiency in ur script. 04:41:44 oerjan: can you believe it's 5 am 04:46:05 nope 04:46:11 it's 5:45 04:47:50 -!- tikfreenode has joined. 04:49:25 oerjan: : / 04:54:51 -!- tikfreenode has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:55:58 -!- MDude has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:05:59 is considerata a word 05:06:42 given that considerate is, seems likely 05:07:05 wiktionary just lists it as latin 05:07:10 let's say it is 05:07:11 well obviously 05:07:45 \o/ 05:07:45 | 05:07:45 /| 05:07:49 desiderata is well-known enough 05:08:31 right 05:08:47 hm what's the singular of that 05:08:52 oh desideratum 06:18:52 elliott, monqy kallisti (absent) UPDATE 06:27:02 -!- variable has quit (Excess Flood). 06:29:34 -!- variable has joined. 06:36:08 hi 06:39:28 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: bye). 06:39:39 hi 06:45:01 -!- MoALTz_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 06:45:14 h 06:45:14 i 06:48:43 -!- MoALTz has joined. 07:10:27 @ping 07:10:27 pong 07:10:30 @ping 07:10:30 pong 07:10:30 @ping 07:10:31 pong 07:10:31 @ping 07:10:31 pong 07:11:51 -!- elliott_ has joined. 07:12:04 -!- elliott has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:13:49 bye eliot 07:20:27 -!- itidus21 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 07:42:39 can someone buy me an optical drive 07:42:40 thank you 07:44:36 whats that 07:45:28 a drive 07:45:29 of opticals 07:47:03 monqy: have you ever been to 07:47:04 the sun 07:47:13 no 07:47:46 wow 07:47:50 teach me your ways 07:48:41 please 07:48:51 please 07:48:56 please teach me your ways 07:48:56 thank you 07:48:58 please 07:49:10 why 07:49:12 why aren't you saying anything 07:49:37 i dont understand whats going on 07:49:37 help 07:51:13 monqy has tarred me with the brush of shame 07:51:29 hi 07:51:44 I had a dream about needing an optical drive 07:53:47 cant fucking stand the wattage on theset hings. said jurtr, 07:54:21 `NO THE SAME FUCKING ERROR NO 07:54:25 how difficult is it to install windows 07:54:28 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: NO: not found 07:55:42 maybe its wine 1. 07:55:43 4 07:56:01 -!- myndzi\ has joined. 07:56:47 elliott_: Have you been "sleeping" lately? (It does not look like it.) 07:57:36 i actually got up at 10 pm 07:57:40 so this is like 07:57:42 uhhh 07:57:51 TIME in the DAYHALF 07:57:54 so there 07:58:05 fizzie: can you buy me an optical drive please 07:58:08 i would like one 07:58:15 NOOOO. 07:58:39 but 07:58:45 -!- myndzi has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 07:58:55 No butts. 07:59:47 but 08:00:32 (setf *readtable* nil) 08:00:51 but 08:01:31 cries softly 08:04:55 A long time ago I made a clone of MESH:Hero in PHP, called PuzzleMesh, but it is slow, it crashed a lot, and never got completed. I might make new one in C; what should I call it? And what other idea? Some idea of names is "PuzzleMesh", "OSCOEVME" (open source clone of Everett Kaser's Mesh engine), "GOIC" (game of interwoven challenges), "CTHAFTE" (collect the hearts and find the exit), etc. 08:05:09 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 08:08:11 Do you have better idea please? 08:08:41 many 08:08:59 elliott_: You know what *really* makes this computer hot? 08:09:13 Radiation? 08:09:21 When I have a rogue chromium process taking 100% CPU. 08:09:25 For $LONG_TIME 08:09:44 my chrmoiums just take up a lot of cpu always and slow things down and im cry 08:09:47 I do intend to omit some features (such as Animate, Level, LevelCount, etc), and implement some features a bit differently to ensure that replay won't be broken and that it won't cause GPF, but also to add a few new features. 08:11:19 -!- cheater has joined. 08:13:31 elliott_: See here, you're trusting the future of esolanging to a VPS provider who can't even keep people's bitcoins safe: http://bitcoinmedia.com/compromised-linode-coins-stolen-from-slush-faucet-and-others/ -- 08:14:02 NOT THE BITCOINS 08:14:19 "Rest assured: I am covering Linode’s mistake from my own income. That means months of my work is wasted and I’m crushed." 08:14:24 In the second paragraph this guy is already unbearable. 08:15:20 There's also a link to a posting from another dude who lost OVER NINE THOUSAND bitcoins. 08:15:38 Although the letter from Linode... 08:15:44 Unless that's faked, that is alarming 08:16:15 "We were alerted to the suspicious activity and have identified and corrected the issue. Our investigation has revealed a customer support interface was used to access your account. The compromised credentials have been restricted and we are discussing policy changes to prevent this from recurring." 08:16:20 meh its not any "real" real security flaw 08:16:29 just privileged credentials getting into the wrong hands 08:16:49 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Page closed). 08:16:52 It is indicative of the worst security flaw known. 08:17:02 I believe that the technical term is "Homo sapiens" 08:17:07 deeeeeeeep 08:17:25 man who the fuck is ipv6ing solidity 08:17:28 just tiny little blips on the map 08:18:04 Do you even have any oerjan (aka AAAA) domain names pointing at it? 08:18:06 -!- MoALTz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:18:33 fizzie: So 9000 BTC is about $3, right? 08:18:33 (Tomorrow's rates) 08:18:33 http://status.linode.com/2012/03/manager-security-incident.html here are teh statement 08:18:36 good thing they're only targetting people who use bitcoin 08:18:40 esolangs.org is fuckin safe 08:18:43 -!- MoALTz_ has joined. 08:18:49 i pledge never to put any bitcoins on solidity 08:19:00 yr passwords are secure 08:19:08 fizzie: nope i'll have to email THE ALAN DIPERT for that 08:20:35 But how about if you wanted to add some BITCOIN MICROPAYMENTS to the wiki? Like, 0.50 BTC to edit a page; 200 BTC to get a red banner mentioning your page on the Main Page for a day; and so on. 08:20:36 fizzie: mind you i don't like the idea that they have a single auth token that offers global root like that 08:21:46 "About 3 years ago, a budget OpenVZ virtual hosting company with thousands of customers got completely destroyed, all data lost, allegedly because of an unpatched bug in the then-popular HyperVM customer portal. The Indian guy who sold HyperVM committed suicide the next day." whoah 08:23:15 meh unless anyone has any other suggestions as far as providers go i'll stick with linode 08:23:19 not like the wiki db is that sensitive 08:23:22 I did think of a method to transfer money by computer (and even other secure communication channels) in a way which is anonymous and is linked to real cash, and is also limited to your specification, and can cut into as small pieces as you want. For internet, SSH would be used and a set of commands available (and the same commands would be used for internet banking). As far as I know, this has not been implemented. 08:24:25 elliott_: I suggest keeping the server under your bed and not connecting it to a network, then the wiki would finally be safe. 08:24:26 shocking 08:24:35 fizzie: ooh and that would stop people posting bf derivs too 08:24:46 fizzie: But then it would also be unusable. 08:25:12 not like you to object to a perfect but useless solution 08:25:14 There's that; but it's like a win-win-lose situation then, and 2 > 1. 08:25:15 (Unless everyone who wants to use go to your house and can sit under your bed; that is difficult.) 08:25:28 yeah everyone here is welcome to come to my house and sit under my bed to use the wiki 08:25:34 free 08:25:40 if im sleeping please be quiet 08:26:00 Let's make a BF deriv 08:26:03 That's actually worth something 08:26:06 no 08:26:08 die 08:26:12 kill 08:26:13 burn 08:26:14 fire 08:26:14 "There's a monster under my bed!" "No, no, that's just an esolang wiki visitor." 08:26:38 i would feel v. safe with a bunch of you guys under there 08:28:21 Did someone say BF derivative? 08:28:47 :D 08:28:51 with less ative 08:28:52 Madoka-Kaname: You do it yourself; many people in here doesn't like it 08:29:37 What should I call the free Hero Mesh clone? 08:30:24 elliott_: I'll go to your house and sit under your bed and use the wiki! 08:30:27 What's the address? 08:32:51 Q street q q q q q q q q x hexham. 08:33:00 zzo38: HeroMeshExceptIt'sFree 08:33:39 elliott_: Did you ever figure out that two-dimensional zipper? 08:33:42 elliott_: Is there an abbreviation for that? 08:34:03