< 1332547735 851059 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case it is because first parameter is condition, and then after that is the value in case this condition, and then next condition afterward, etc < 1332548064 977427 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. that makes sense of course.. im just rambling < 1332548504 406164 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is something a bit like Lisp, but it is not like Lisp. < 1332549741 472733 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1332550000 117078 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332550643 657847 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332551493 720184 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332552603 550590 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332552774 4849 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-3-248.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1332552774 418074 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-3-248.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1332552774 579211 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1332554312 58124 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332554461 920794 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332554467 824666 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net NICK :Mathnerd314 < 1332556436 933111 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332556785 770769 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1332557453 280011 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332557704 757307 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332557716 175184 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332557724 865799 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332558151 513918 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332558384 377998 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1332559819 550243 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332559991 287696 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1332562057 898427 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1332562207 719026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332562670 272475 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65.183.136.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332562672 271657 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65.183.136.252 QUIT :Client Quit < 1332566001 766634 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332566266 786814 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332566953 344441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1332569416 615848 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332569561 298732 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332569794 639815 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332570026 135655 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332570033 831623 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332571776 857432 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332572585 577821 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332572784 877116 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332575493 920225 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332576053 847584 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332577148 88613 :Twirt199!~CMEG@cm94.epsilon178.maxonline.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1332577161 452626 :Twirt199!~CMEG@cm94.epsilon178.maxonline.com.sg PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Nonsense_Query_List < 1332577167 649934 :Twirt199!~CMEG@cm94.epsilon178.maxonline.com.sg QUIT :Client Quit < 1332577223 832310 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332577265 941565 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org/wiki/Nonsense_Query_List < 1332577282 241654 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :X http://esolangs.org/wiki/Nonsense_Query_List < 1332577298 817833 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How easy or difficult is it to write a Nonsense Query List? < 1332577504 324693 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's Ehird? < 1332577567 667424 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any opinions on writing Nonsense Query Lists? < 1332577574 344980 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 QUIT : < 1332578195 851251 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1332578506 969701 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332579529 472512 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332579648 647734 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-179.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332579663 244652 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-179.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1332579773 600195 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the game consist of, fire, earth, water, air, and the goal of the game is to make more air? < 1332579792 13278 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-179.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sounds familiar < 1332579957 18291 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-3-248.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1332579957 399922 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-3-248.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1332579957 562128 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1332580774 583597 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a way to represent a form for picture distortion? One idea I have, is using the RGB of a PNG file so that there is relative 12-bits X and Y coordinates on each pixel to tell which one from source to copy? Is there other idea? < 1332580866 884135 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So that, for example, in TeXnicard you can tell it to make the text for the name of the card to be curved, or slanted, and other things like that) < 1332580930 961712 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-194-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332580954 415022 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-245-126.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1332580981 344352 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332581052 57647 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Internally in TeXnicard, all pictures are either monochrome bitmaps or grayscale; so you need to copy each channel of RGM into grayscale and vice versa) < 1332581058 172324 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332581141 742652 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332581192 551765 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332581338 224365 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeXnicard uses floating points for only one purpose. Do you know which one it is? < 1332581614 252449 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Quit: 42 < 1332582332 721998 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-179.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332582914 165519 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1332583193 506868 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1332583564 553984 :cheater!~cheater@g229022101.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332584365 903273 :cheater!~cheater@g231044138.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1332584843 398257 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1332585211 808124 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332585629 536778 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332585930 209432 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B74B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332586642 86264 :kmc!~keegan@cpe-66-65-104-23.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332587325 828375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1332587330 49007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE WIKI?! < 1332587350 396104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should block this NSQX person < 1332587370 460695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ping < 1332587371 562960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ping < 1332587373 699356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: ping < 1332587374 962923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ping < 1332587375 860932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ping < 1332587380 82940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ping < 1332587387 189977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziew: ping < 1332587463 87392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, mostly looks like changes to the main page and baffling featured languages changes < 1332587494 983898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: ping < 1332587525 150242 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1332587531 468173 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, recent changes < 1332587561 163688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :best spambot < 1332587579 337598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a bot, either someone trying to cause chaos or a way, way overenthusiastic person. < 1332587591 142107 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take that back < 1332587596 539849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get to reverting the mess they made... < 1332587598 435453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you see he tried to find you on here? < 1332587602 214141 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as best as the spambot that removed paragraphs and replaced them with misspelled complements < 1332587606 538971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:19 < Twirt199> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Nonsense_Query_List < 1332587607 297678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, I checked the logs to figure out WTF was going on. < 1332587615 276411 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okays. < 1332587633 160478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also as NSQX, I suppose it's the same person.) < 1332587639 571360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think a day's block might be in order. ("Assume good faith", and so on.) < 1332587647 115186 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332587717 829749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/* This was created as a start of porting MediaWiki to support Nonsense Query List databases, which should then be the database type that Esolang's MediaWiki software uses */ < 1332587725 899759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't looked at the wiki at all. But yes, sounds like overenthusiasm. < 1332587776 494060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, looks like it's the creator of Basic Input/Output Commands. < 1332587923 888503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I need adult supervision, do I block this guy for a day or not :| < 1332587926 735679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're, like, the maturest op. < 1332587950 32885 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332587966 470351 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332587970 64102 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1332587994 30453 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is http://esolangs.org/wiki/LOLCODE now better than a stub? < 1332588002 702699 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also see http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:LOLCODE < 1332588379 925822 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332588383 224644 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What monqy? < 1332588389 305580 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's me < 1332588394 749553 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332588421 415612 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you read these two pages, monqy? < 1332588431 859864 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think that http://esolangs.org/wiki/LOLCODE is now better than a stub, monqy? < 1332588466 545323 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, what is the monqy doing? < 1332588562 951688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don;t qnow if i'm qualified to say < 1332588614 296119 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have much experience with wiki page standards and grading < 1332588619 447159 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by much I mean < 1332588620 478250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any at all < 1332588641 680036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: But what *is* the monqy doing. < 1332588669 378431 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then is anyone else, like Ehird or Orejan available for reviewing those pages? < 1332588712 350266 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is being here doing enough < 1332588721 729771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm ehird. oerjan uses the same name on IRC. < 1332588722 955564 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm looking between the lolcode page and irc < 1332588725 662578 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332588791 707830 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you think that http://esolangs.org/wiki/LOLCODE is now better than a stub? < 1332588803 881487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's certainly larger than most stubs now :) < 1332588808 546774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see the message I left you on your user talk page? < 1332588917 584306 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, it's certainly larger than most stubs now :)" - does that mean that it is now okay to remove {{stub}} from the page about LOLCODE? < 1332588931 425726 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the message you left on my talk page. < 1332588975 926153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, generally we like to have a relatively complete specification of a language before considering it a non-stub, i.e. examples and the like usually don't count towards non-stubness. But I'm not sure, I'd wait for other people to reply on the talk page for other opinions. < 1332589007 357740 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone in the Esolang community will probably just remember this day, a week before April Fools Day, as a very enthusiastic day at Esolang. < 1332589070 398566 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1332589086 961130 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 QUIT : < 1332589090 29469 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1332589104 825268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1332589114 365525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have become < 1332589116 306255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :entirely semicolons < 1332589146 440058 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that LOLCODE spec right?? < 1332589151 888242 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lacks both functions and loops. < 1332589163 691318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what right is any more < 1332589164 264667 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning that spec is not turing complete, which I'm 99% sure LOLCODE is. < 1332589177 708675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uh http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=LOLCODE&oldid=23618 is what it was before < 1332589185 323827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"main" keywords i think it's just a partial list or whatever < 1332589427 404362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Anyone in the Esolang community will probably just remember this day, a week before April Fools Day, as a very enthusiastic day at Esolang. < 1332589436 755986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe adding a quote will help me understand < 1332589437 469987 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :830) Anyone in the Esolang community will probably just remember this day, a week before April Fools Day, as a very enthusiastic day at Esolang. < 1332589447 466630 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332589572 53731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do wonder if the newly-added libraries are in any standard or implementation, though. < 1332589578 739002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolcode.com is quite a mess. :/ < 1332589616 882204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last posts on the forum seem to be from early 2009. < 1332589719 320273 :kmc!~keegan@cpe-66-65-104-23.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332589727 401119 :kmc!~keegan@cpe-66-65-104-23.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332589952 60868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, the "VISIBLE" thing is standard. < 1332589955 92792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the file IO seems: not. < 1332589972 428305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'll look into whether the changes are correct later and revert if not. < 1332590000 904125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just wondering, since the changelog comment was "-- created a few new LOLCODE libraries --" < 1332590010 790593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, the Unix one and all that are nonsense. < 1332590015 630996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the STDIO one is at least partially correct. < 1332590038 194915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The "standard" thing for extensions to other people's languages is to create a new page with them, but I hope you can understand I'm reluctant to suggest that. < 1332590147 308767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see the looping construct apparated right now. < 1332590730 72941 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332590873 992604 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, people, I only thought of all LOLCODE extensions having similar names to the original C/C++ header filenames, but adding support for code that looks like LOLSPEAK for doing almost the same things as the equivalent C/C++ libraries. < 1332590908 65335 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, "CAN HAZ STDLIB?" in LOLCODE would be the same as #include in C/C++, < 1332590930 121490 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CAN HAZ WCHAR?" in LOLCODE would be the same as #include in C/C++, < 1332590952 232601 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CAN HAZ IOSTREAM?" in LOLCODE would be the same as #inlcude in C/C++, < 1332590974 562472 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "CAN HAZ WINDBLOZE?" in LOLCODE would be the same is "#include " in Microsoft Visual C++ < 1332591038 500750 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I HAZ A TIMESTAMP ITZ DA NIX TIMESTMP F DA DAT N TIME NOW/LOL TIMESTAMP R DA NIX TIMESTMP F DA DAT N TIME NOW" in LOLCODE would be the same as "timestamp = time(NULL);" in C/C++ < 1332591071 556717 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't know what a Unix timestamp is, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_timestamp . < 1332591085 521198 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1332591097 468377 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1332591097 850993 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1332591103 782608 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you mention this < 1332591249 764524 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'PLZ OPEN FILE "C:\autoexec.bat"' in LOLCODE is almost the same as 'file = fopen("C:\autoexec.bat");' in C/C++ < 1332591263 472082 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1332591273 552624 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PLZ OPEN FILE" is also documented in Wikipedia's article about LOLCODE ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE ) < 1332591285 79770 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could easily mean it IS standard LOLCODE. < 1332591289 54749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my question remains < 1332591291 245840 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you getting at < 1332591564 200283 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to bring something up < 1332591564 724323 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1332591565 502424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the official example -- http://lolcode.com/examples/filezorz -- it puts a file handle in the variable, not the contents. But anyway. LOLCODE is so poorly specified; there's just the 1.2 standard, and it's pretty sparse. < 1332591568 610655 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lolcode standardization committee < 1332591571 938245 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know where to consult with them < 1332591606 710971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: They have a dead wiki and a dead forum, you could try those. < 1332591615 548784 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I'm not into dead people < 1332591617 162488 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not -that- way < 1332591643 113087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about the other way < 1332591656 612647 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1332591659 765127 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to think about that a moment < 1332591665 516741 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :THINK THINK THANK THUNK THONK < 1332591666 296769 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1332591675 366144 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332591683 582438 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1332591741 511793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the other way < 1332591750 794284 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332591768 199556 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want to know < 1332591768 645334 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332591774 439089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1332591892 699708 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to bring down the lolcode standardization committee < 1332591937 196396 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332592222 242353 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1332592378 662520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4471 < 1332592378 902446 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332592583 276541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.baldursgate.com/news/2012/03/21/baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition-for-ipad-3/ -- didn't someone predict it's a tablet version? < 1332592585 945599 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B74B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332592631 934643 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though maybe that's just in addition to the computaur version.) < 1332592661 853647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I predicted, I think. Though I think I was parrotting another prediction. < 1332592751 783863 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332592838 194284 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1332593124 855575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mconcat [([],[1],[]), ([1],[],[])] < 1332593125 727686 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ([1],[1],[]) < 1332593238 581545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hey, golf me a function to turn [ [ [1], [], [2] ], [ [3,4], [5], [7] ] ] into [ [1,3,4], [5], [2,7] ]. < 1332593248 604364 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1332593425 650072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr (zipWith (++)) [[],[],[]] $ [ [ [1], [], [2] ], [ [3,4], [5], [7] ] ] < 1332593427 156215 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,3,4],[5],[2,7]] < 1332593472 584705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\(a,b,c) -> [a,b,c]) . mconcat . ((\[a,b,c] -> (a,b,c)) <$>) $ [ [ [1], [], [2] ], [ [3,4], [5], [7] ] ] -- to follow your own mconcat, short and simple as anything, HTH. < 1332593474 79552 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,3,4],[5],[2,7]] < 1332593551 942356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \ps -> foldr (zipWith (++)) ([] <$ ps) . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) < 1332593552 786302 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. [a -> Bool] -> [a] -> [[a]] < 1332593698 652290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \ps -> foldr (zipWith (++)) ([] <$ ps) . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) < 1332593698 958270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap ((.) . foldr (zipWith (++)) . ([] <$)) (map . flip (map . liftM2 (.) (<$) ((guard .) . flip id))) < 1332593716 266266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I was hoping for much more flips and .s. < 1332593739 974323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Points if you can tell what that does. :p < 1332593742 230916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without testing it. < 1332593747 367300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or looking anything up. < 1332593845 170453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could guesstimate directly from the type. < 1332593940 971612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm, yeah, I shouldn't have done that :t. < 1332594085 449229 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332594123 747485 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332594234 539137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (flip (map . flip filter)) [odd, even, (>5)] [1..10] -- I would expect something like that from the :t < 1332594236 146293 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,3,5,7,9],[2,4,6,8,10],[6,7,8,9,10]] < 1332594363 758197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's that, except it only tramaverses the lyste wunce. < 1332594448 7584 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-245-233.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332594457 240653 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-194-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332594995 603187 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Objective_LOLCODE < 1332595068 287786 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX, I'd politely ask you to die but elliott would probably yell at me for being mean. < 1332595090 808285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's not brainfuck. < 1332595125 377357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is a really cheerful person. < 1332595140 366734 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two variants of LOLCODE: original LOLCODE and Objective LOLCODE < 1332595148 793655 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; rather than a crappy derivative of an interesting language it's a crappy derivative of the worst thing ever to be called esoteric. < 1332595241 655459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Objective brainfuck! It's just like brainfuck, except if you have two "+"s consecutively, it does like HQ9++ does. < 1332595342 305281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway regarding Objective LOLCODE, http://lolcode.com/proposals/1.3/bukkit and http://lolcode.com/proposals/1.3/bukkit2 < 1332595357 841014 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no such thing as Objective Brainfuck, or even Objective FALSE, because a programming language made of only symbols can only be esoteric/pointless. < 1332595377 427142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile LOLCODE is simply pointeless. < 1332595381 765297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also pointless. < 1332595476 439093 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, there is a such thing as Objective LOLCODE because LOLCODE can actually be similar to Ruby or C (just as a LOLSPEAK-like version, that's the only change) < 1332595502 494415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's precisely why most people don't consider LOLCODE a very good esolang. < 1332595515 876065 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 QUIT : < 1332595550 747753 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332595560 571025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, FSVO "most people" and all that. Uh. < 1332595660 90979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhoo, I think BUKKITs have some sort of a quasi-standard status, being that they're an "official" proposal and have some amount of support in implementations. < 1332595668 757183 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people who *matter*. < 1332597231 846853 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-173-153.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1332597269 449190 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-204-143.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332597378 484004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Where was that trilime SVG? < 1332597558 231176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/trili3.svg was the last one. < 1332597567 915018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Inkscape prototype, I mean. < 1332597666 317441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1332598012 151127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Was the colour for each of the limes just a random picking from them, or an average of some kind? < 1332598347 172622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I understand that wikipedia is reluctant to allow its self to be used as a source, but, how can we expect others to take us seriously if we ourselves do not?" < 1332598946 999937 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-173-153.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you read your SICP today? < 1332599780 613346 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332599871 924344 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That SVG is painfully flat X-D < 1332599873 967012 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1332599877 384486 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unsurprisingly) < 1332599894 581404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: "Flat"? < 1332599988 804819 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has no texture. < 1332600051 556865 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-157-198.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332600176 64325 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-143-234.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332600250 492484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Well, yeah. < 1332600668 75456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel isn't happy enough. < 1332600753 617300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Stop appearing where I least expect you! < 1332600753 888102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332600769 507846 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-157-198.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332600796 276514 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-240-56.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332601382 427724 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332601400 917930 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-240-56.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332601474 973088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I picked a random pixel but from a subjectively more or less "representative" region. < 1332601500 255398 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332601504 154378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With emphasis on the 'more or less'. < 1332601511 361497 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1332601520 675081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the colours are certainly "close" in an objective sense, it's just that e.g. the bottom-right one looks more like a strangely dark lime than the reality of a lime of the same colour with a shadow over it. < 1332601530 599773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what happens when you don't have any detail :P < 1332601575 820110 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332601583 422701 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332601594 178489 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a two dimensional language with multi-threading support, right? < 1332601599 282797 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was its name again? < 1332601635 5093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, Befunge-98? < 1332601638 109714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THere are probably several. < 1332601640 563805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*There < 1332601641 323461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to mention ATHR at this juncture. < 1332601646 501354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about: don't. < 1332601652 5227 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332601652 629395 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net NICK :Mathnerd314 < 1332601783 433439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bloated SNUSP" has concurrency too. < 1332601802 665824 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332601824 30532 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332602022 593402 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of something based on circuits < 1332602025 339423 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :including delays < 1332602150 946287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few circuity esolangs. < 1332602157 110487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think at least some of those support "multithreading" by virtue of everything happening globally so you can have two copies of the same thing and they'll run simultaneously. < 1332602309 285373 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e you send an information package around < 1332602313 751459 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can be copied < 1332602337 16559 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have stations which can inspect packages and stuff like that. < 1332602356 365377 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if "+" receives a package, it waits five ticks for another package to arrive < 1332602358 50786 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :opens them < 1332602371 582227 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :adds the content together < 1332602384 134455 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sends a new package with the new information < 1332602422 364226 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... that repackaging costs time < 1332602431 394580 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i.e it takes 1 tick to do that < 1332602482 786157 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which results in a LOT of timing issues while programming in that language :) < 1332602514 965654 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may need to add extra delays to slow packages down if one would arrive too fast < 1332602618 797164 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and packages can crash together :) < 1332602707 483880 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if they cross their ways in the two dimensional space) < 1332602712 171697 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which might be very often. < 1332602725 633869 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can only store data in travelling packages :) < 1332603272 267291 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-148-102.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332603369 197937 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fpaste.org/v7Lg/ <- like that < 1332603385 182192 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :read takes a package, empties it and fills it with stin < 1332603395 175330 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> copies the package and sends the copy to the right < 1332603396 93443 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `copies'Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: `package'Not in scop... < 1332603402 586078 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original package passes through it < 1332603423 107884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds sufficiently similar to My name is Johny, what the F**K????? that I'll just accuse you of plagiarism without trying to understand it :P < 1332603459 5851 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1332603492 383045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name is Johny, what the F**K????? is the name of the esolang I'm legally obligated to create per the Deleted Spam Pages on Esolang Act of 2011. < 1332603494 761887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was it 2010? < 1332603503 721948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010. < 1332604085 313543 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332604169 935690 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332604176 165760 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net NICK :Mathnerd314 < 1332604729 435846 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332605516 427120 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332606124 730575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hey. < 1332606127 344427 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1332606133 676978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had forgonutted. < 1332606675 870911 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-5d81e2cf.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332606798 694889 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332607165 682991 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332607170 990839 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332607495 784279 :augur_!~augur@206.196.186.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332607566 995576 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332607620 580785 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332607625 713337 :augur_!~augur@206.196.186.161 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332609037 487444 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332609144 915081 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1332609195 423961 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the time when I left this channel and what was my quit message? < 1332609369 546514 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping < 1332609423 235677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1332609534 17451 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing my connection works again. When I used nmap -sO on my router my network connection went away for 20 seconds or so < 1332609669 910694 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Logs are linked to in the topic < 1332609780 221995 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. That's pretty neat < 1332609949 500086 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332610144 544400 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332610166 790689 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332610206 312089 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332610315 690852 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332610717 260658 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332611325 469900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep ais523 /var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-??.txt | paste < 1332611330 361023 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31451 < 1332611422 89719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\ps -> foldr (zipWith (++)) ([] <$ ps) . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) [even, odd] [0..] < 1332611422 930762 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1332611432 48143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\ps -> foldr (zipWith (++)) ([] <$ ps) . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps)) [even, odd] [0..] < 1332611434 320338 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: stack overflow < 1332611438 69316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1332611456 107035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\ps -> foldr (zipWith (++)) ([] <$ ps) . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps)) [even, odd] [0..100] < 1332611457 669938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,42,44,46,48,50,... < 1332611461 102819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\ps -> foldr (zipWith (++)) ([] <$ ps) . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps)) [even, odd] [0..1000] < 1332611462 703498 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,42,44,46,48,50,... < 1332611483 240620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterMulti fs xs = go (reverse xs) (repeat []) where go [] acc = acc ; go (y:ys) acc = go ys $ zipWith (\f a -> if f y then y:a else a) fs acc in filterMulti [even, odd] [0..1000] < 1332611484 153007 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,42,44,46,48,50,... < 1332611486 931384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterMulti fs xs = go (reverse xs) (repeat []) where go [] acc = acc ; go (y:ys) acc = go ys $ zipWith (\f a -> if f y then y:a else a) fs acc in filterMulti [even, odd] [0..] < 1332611494 508955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1332611494 694968 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1332611503 597057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 10 . head $ (\ps -> foldr (zipWith (++)) ([] <$ ps) . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps)) [even, odd] [0..] < 1332611507 607616 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1332611509 154072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 10 . head $ (\ps -> foldr (zipWith (++)) ([] <$ ps) . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps)) [even, odd] [0..] < 1332611513 539144 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1332611546 722178 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what programming language is that? < 1332611569 668228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Haskell. < 1332611570 560729 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1332611571 376447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1332611572 464798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell. < 1332612084 967443 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-5d81e2cf.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332612097 682136 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-5d81f134.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332612369 685206 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wget http://tsundere.fi/b/vpenis.sh < 1332612372 575670 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2012-03-24 18:06:12-- http://tsundere.fi/b/vpenis.sh \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... failed: Connection refused. < 1332612395 351268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a fetch for that. < 1332612413 258383 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fetch http://tsundere.fi/b/vpenis.sh < 1332612416 307141 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: fetch: command not found < 1332612420 478194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, a command. < 1332612421 935152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1332612424 66473 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1332612436 95841 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://tsundere.fi/b/vpenis.sh < 1332612439 782929 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-24 18:07:19 URL:http://tsundere.fi/b/vpenis.sh [317/317] -> "vpenis.sh" [1] < 1332612470 139114 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod 755 vpenis.sh < 1332612473 48774 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332612488 492919 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ./vpenis.sh < 1332612492 766582 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./vpenis.sh: 2: bc: not found \ df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory < 1332612494 936156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Protip: Whatever you do won't help. < 1332612505 936830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's a thing. < 1332612507 816325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's not trying to be a crack. < 1332612517 789826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was assuming it was one of the: "'sploits" the "kids" were doing "these days". < 1332612537 200302 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to run vpenis.sh on HackBot < 1332612543 328076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did. < 1332612549 552974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, it does assume some sanity from the surrounding system. < 1332612636 879639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also been a bit of a length inflation in vpenii these days. < 1332612680 485524 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It calculates length of virtual penis from processor speed, amount of free memory, disks and uptime < 1332612701 452594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/calculates/tries to calculate/ < 1332612707 40712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know what they say. Obsession of the man is one of the most unknown and frightful phenomena, which stops evolutionary development of the man and brings its to full spiritual (and often to physical) death. < 1332612791 321788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get 174.1cm at work, 237.1cm at home, and 3383.1cm on the university's shell server. Someone should maybe adjust the constants slightly to match Moore's length. I mean, law. < 1332612817 481074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ curl http://tsundere.fi/b/vpenis.sh | sh < 1332612817 642491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current < 1332612817 642674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed < 1332612817 642785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 317 100 317 0 0 75 0 0:00:04 0:00:04 --:--:-- 2990 < 1332612817 642943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh: line 2: bc: command not found < 1332612821 367454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess my system isn't: sane. < 1332612831 358264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lack of 'bc' is very much not sane. < 1332612839 20374 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, you do all your calculating with dc? < 1332612846 480472 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: when I ran it on my computer, that is quite obsolete these days after I made it work on Darwin it showed that length of my vpenis is 7633.9cm < 1332612848 250236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, that's reasonable. But still.) < 1332612863 753663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I use Google as my calculator. :p < 1332612874 17578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ curl -s http://tsundere.fi/b/vpenis.sh | sh < 1332612874 182231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :220.6cm < 1332612883 313947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not how big it is, it's how you use it. < 1332612884 351272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it gives rather a lot weight on dick space. I mean, disk space. < 1332612886 67482 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could try to make vpenis.sh dc compatible < 1332612912 751054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course the uptime thing makes it fluctuate. < 1332612945 479674 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I have just 40GB disk, but my uptime is something like 120 days < 1332613020 999184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott@solidity:~$ curl -s http://tsundere.fi/b/vpenis.sh | sh < 1332613021 160441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :58.8cm < 1332613029 36133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like this script. < 1332613060 41890 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1332613102 90510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit where it gives a *2 score when the dick, I mean disk, devices have "/dev/scsi" or "/dev/sd" in them is also pretty obsoletated now that IDE disks are 'sdX' too. Not to mention that my /dev/mapper/ LVM things then don't match. < 1332613105 885765 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332613112 936759 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you install bc or is that another machine? < 1332613145 375928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I installed bc for: < 1332613146 104598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : $ curl -s http://tsundere.fi/b/vpenis.sh | sh < 1332613146 266234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 220.6cm < 1332613151 544359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But solidity is the server Esolang runs on. < 1332613155 352939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which has dc already, apparently. < 1332613156 502784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bc < 1332613163 186892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fis@iris:~/mem$ sh vpenis.sh < 1332613163 348638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :27.3cm < 1332613166 717249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now. < 1332613171 17676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's the Atom box.) < 1332613192 73832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, someone try it on one of those plug computers. < 1332613200 463567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or an Atari. < 1332613214 224527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the uptime ratings are zeros here thanks to yesterday's electricity break. < 1332613254 288836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fis@selene:~$ sh vpenis.sh < 1332613254 450350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :23.4cm < 1332613260 704019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The prgmr VPS managed to go even lower. < 1332613272 629582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's up 104 days, doesn't seem to help much. < 1332613274 629943 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332613293 682117 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2028.6cm < 1332613307 949650 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And cat: cannot open /proc/cpuinfo: No such file or directory < 1332613323 273951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1332613333 168874 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: what OS are you running? < 1332613340 903798 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sh: line 2: bc: command not found < 1332613363 203062 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sh: line 2: bc: command not found < 1332613374 413150 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was desktop, fileserver, firewall, and laptop, respectively < 1332613378 561725 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332613388 299381 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: And the non-Linux one was Solaris 11 < 1332613402 731686 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332613426 253321 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :130.4cm on the laptop after installing bc < 1332613437 975148 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 55.8cm on the firewall < 1332613439 212654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd try it on that silly NAS disk-share box I have, but it's not on, and it's not exactly maybe worth it. < 1332613446 298154 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it even do? < 1332613447 797693 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332613469 164437 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewian: I'll post the version that doesn't requite /proc shortly < 1332613483 636553 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it's the -x nfs that's presumably failing < 1332613484 892923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit from cpuinfo is "sum of cpu MHz lines / 30". < 1332613487 878329 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And explaining my high score < 1332613500 301882 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :df -P -k -x nfs most definitely includes my NFS :-P < 1332613546 40665 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: -x nfs4 required, I guess < 1332613562 855187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, it reports 3726.3cm at work if I don't have "-x nfs" in. < 1332613576 493367 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :674.4cm with the -x nfs4 < 1332613584 304523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : fis@selene:~$ sh vpenis.sh < 1332613584 465956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 23.4cm < 1332613584 466203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : The prgmr VPS managed to go even lower. < 1332613587 695633 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still probably counts things multiple times < 1332613590 370791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ha, my Linode is "teh superiore", as they say. < 1332613597 230655 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I have "rootfs" and "/dev/root" in that < 1332613626 243705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: There's all kinds of tmpfs things, too, that arguably should maybe not count. < 1332613661 353460 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, tmpfs and devtmpfs < 1332613673 390365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit it needs cpuinfo for is "sum of 'cpu MHz:' lines / 30", which means turning on hyperthreading can double your vpenis size -- well, the CPU part of it -- overnight. < 1332613676 118226 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :df -P -k -x nfs -x nfs4 -x tmpfs -x devtmpfs -x rootfs < 1332613745 460655 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Triton I get (standard_in) 1: syntax error < 1332613768 205274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's when you have something that gets represented in exponential notation. < 1332613797 915113 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1332613812 577379 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, from awk? < 1332613814 897132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :By awk, somewhere. Probably in the disk space. < 1332613826 751741 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.5864e+06/15+70 < 1332613828 23583 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1332613836 683992 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: E.g. check out this thing: < 1332613838 732303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[htkallas@pc112 ~]$ sh vpenis.sh < 1332613838 893768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :3726.3cm < 1332613842 411432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[htkallas@pc112 ~]$ ls /share/work/{htkallas,itniemin,mniemenm} >/dev/null 2>&1 < 1332613845 687851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[htkallas@pc112 ~]$ sh vpenis.sh < 1332613848 187687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(standard_in) 1: syntax error < 1332613852 17972 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1332613853 82887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automounting the work disk three times was too much for it. < 1332613926 194586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.5864e+06/15 would've yielded you 23909.3 cm. < 1332613930 650961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it with Finns and their having Finnish names? < 1332613976 274368 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :25942.6cm without -x nfs. < 1332613986 307640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :People use NFS? < 1332613997 697179 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1332614020 195909 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :924.8cm with -x nfs -x lustre. :-P < 1332614030 375977 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: but it must be executed with -x nfs. Otherwise it is not real vpenis.sh < 1332614054 581409 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-x nfs is just a bit arbitrary. < 1332614058 925634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, this is on that cluster thing? < 1332614077 5436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that's more plausible than a Finnish home user using NFS, but you never know with them Finns. < 1332614080 908826 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to get rid of remote filesystems, there are more types than that, which seems to include only NFSv3. And then there's the tmpfs stuff mentioned earlier. < 1332614090 209550 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I use NFS at home. < 1332614107 964078 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 23909.3 / 25942.6 was on the cluster. < 1332614127 67355 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2028.6 at home, without -x nfs4. < 1332614174 301956 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 3726.3 at work from fizzie. < 1332614182 619392 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. Does free command show free memory size in mb? < 1332614189 680997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: See, you *are* weird. < 1332614192 176537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: free -m does. < 1332614209 464760 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: If you just use free, it's in kilobytes. < 1332614213 24830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have some sort of NFS setup at home, too, though not these days. I think it was when I had that sparc. < 1332614228 489507 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What else should I use on a file server? :-P < 1332614236 990823 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit. I calculated my vpenis assuming that is is in mb < 1332614243 197870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Samba, for all your Windows clients. < 1332614261 582250 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, but preferably not for my non-Windows clients, methinks. < 1332614355 909295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the ~/www/ directory (that maps to β.zem.fi/~fis) shared over Samba, for no particular reason. Though it does have the dubious benefit that after setting up "create mask = 0644" for that share, I never have to remember to chmod files I copy there. < 1332614406 643741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Samba has those "Unix extensions" things going on, I think you can make it work reasonably well.) < 1332614444 244361 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be an improvement to use it instead of NFSv4? :-P < 1332614477 828611 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewian: does your solaris system have free command? < 1332614480 15561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmaybe not. Though the NFS setup *I* had did break down occasionally. < 1332614505 240341 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Nope < 1332614514 787697 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: < 1332614516 550006 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :% curl -s http://tsundere.fi/b/vpenis.sh | sh < 1332614516 712135 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: cannot open /proc/cpuinfo: No such file or directory < 1332614516 712336 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh: line 2: free: not found < 1332614516 712448 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :awk: syntax error near line 1 < 1332614518 797736 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :awk: illegal statement near line 1 < 1332614521 303974 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :awk: syntax error near line 1 < 1332614523 817326 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :awk: bailing out near line 1 < 1332614526 355668 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: unknown option: x < 1332614527 882916 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSFw4 < 1332614528 829367 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: df [-F FSType] [-abeghklntPVvZ] [-o FSType-specific_options] [directory | block_device | resource] < 1332614611 508770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: On kosh.org.aalto.fi, it's all "df: `/m/work/a800': Permission denied" for umpzillion lines, but does at least manage to yield a result. < 1332614622 388416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kosh ~ 798 % mount | wc -l < 1332614622 549835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :205 < 1332614625 642603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of mounts. < 1332614633 972163 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What's the vpenis length there? < 1332614658 428047 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kosh.hut.fi gets 1933.0cm < 1332614664 756976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: What else should I use on a file server? :-P < 1332614672 974973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't know, surely there's something better than NFS by 2012. < 1332614686 234236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: 3384.7cm; all the "nfs4" mounts (the not-"nfs" ones) give "permission denied" and thus are not counted. < 1332614699 509399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, NFS doesn't even have atomic mkdir! < 1332614710 445541 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: does http://paste.dy.fi/rbV work on your solaris system < 1332614728 620591 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ZFS stuff on solaris supports NFS (and Samba) directly, which is the main reason why I used that. < 1332614763 431539 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*http://paste.dy.fi/rbV/plain < 1332614805 929168 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: http://sprunge.us/eSgC < 1332614841 567055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: kosh.org.aalto.fi gets 3120 cm of the length from the 96 gigs of RAM it has. < 1332614852 127241 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1332614858 896110 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, that reminds me. < 1332614870 769428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to run it on one of the Triton fat nodes? < 1332614877 974241 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1332614896 419875 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: you must download it to a file and after that you can run it < 1332614898 739134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should give about 35000 cm for RAM, except it might awk-break again. < 1332614901 609352 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Same thing < 1332614931 814883 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's awk-breaking already due to the df stuff, so I need to printf-ify the awk again. < 1332614964 356525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: You've typoed "MHz" as "HMz" on the line. < 1332614977 764315 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: And you can't just count MHz itself, you need to multiply it by the number of cores. < 1332614978 927265 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :One permission denied error from df and 29921.8cm < 1332615019 700940 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I created that version for one core machines < 1332615374 575705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, it's so "short" because it's looking at the "used" column, not total. < 1332615389 111620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : total used free shared buffers cached < 1332615389 273374 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mem: 1058759152 166124920 892634232 0 251540 15493068 < 1332615397 657766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's mostly free. < 1332615428 317053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it use the right line? < 1332615433 95798 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1332615436 6797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. without buffers/cached) < 1332615438 190081 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1332615495 658779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saunatime. -> < 1332615589 1654 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: http://paste.dy.fi/rGD/plain < 1332615747 887273 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332615784 622465 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-3-248.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1332615785 706768 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-3-248.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1332615785 868241 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1332615796 649999 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: http://sprunge.us/ZRfV < 1332615884 780826 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I'll spoil it for you: that file has DOS newlines hence the complaints about ^M, and your sed and awk usage require GNU sed and GNU awk (so gsed and gawk). < 1332615895 727214 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I get 62073. < 1332615953 147194 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I missed the last sed invocation: that's 6207.3. < 1332617424 970220 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332617849 254626 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332618284 213272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell just spent ~10 minutes trying to fix someone's $PATH. < 1332618286 563199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill me now. < 1332618522 671567 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll kill you with my language based on binary trees . < 1332618572 268351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm dead. < 1332618680 238289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I have this horrible temptation to bring my silly language into existence. < 1332618849 670645 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What silly language do you mean? < 1332618879 594470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I tell you, it'll start existing. :( < 1332618954 622973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a very interesting email: http://www.coyotos.org/pipermail/bitc-dev/2012-March/003300.html < 1332619235 298834 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-5d81f134.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332619768 466963 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HELP MY DOLLAR PATH IS BROKE < 1332619774 616420 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIX IT < 1332619809 708599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1332619825 164355 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix $PATH = $PATH:$(fix $PATH) < 1332619846 24918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1332619857 304482 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1332619865 26915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1332619902 935570 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Tell elliott to tell you to ban me. < 1332620069 816675 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Is it just me, or is little-endian "00 0b" != 11? < 1332620084 470871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 = 11 < 1332620101 601324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1332620140 671420 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332620512 374239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAR = PEACE. < 1332620943 963452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1332621014 234219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have concluded that today is slightly cursed by forces trying to attract my infuriation, the recent wiki events being merely the latest example. Experience tells me that the only cure for such is to refuse to get involved, which I will promptly put into action. < 1332621043 800630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also, to get enough sugar intake. < 1332621059 431977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sips his orange juice.
< 1332621129 672083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it any wonder i keep putting on weight. < 1332621138 892167 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What a spheroidal argument you're having. < 1332621275 703746 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332621329 441175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332621333 394776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: Hey, golf me a function to turn [ [ [1], [], [2] ], [ [3,4], [5], [7] ] ] into [ [1,3,4], [5], [2,7] ]. < 1332621342 326483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: too late. < 1332621353 111139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map concat . transpose $ [ [ [1], [], [2] ], [ [3,4], [5], [7] ] ] < 1332621354 851657 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,3,4],[5],[2,7]] < 1332621369 251175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's better than what i ended up with. < 1332621376 287296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget why i didn't try that. < 1332621381 499800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: heh :P < 1332621385 560442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :filterN ps = foldr (zipWith (++)) ([] <$ ps) . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) < 1332621391 540125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the end result of the thing that sparked that question. < 1332621405 736870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i am offering prizes for people who figure out what it does without :t.) < 1332621429 723892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i thought i saw just a bunch of foldr's so thought i'd still have a fighting chance :P < 1332621448 297115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that transpose might make it less lazy < 1332621519 260565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> transpose [1:2:undefined,[3,4],[5,6]] < 1332621520 258240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,3,5],[2,4,6]*Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1332621532 954185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> transpose (repeat [1,2]) < 1332621533 950236 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1... < 1332621560 781795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = map concat . transpose . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] < 1332621562 332341 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[2,4,6,8,10],[1,3,5,7,9]] < 1332621579 811921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now there's just that ugly map to take care of. < 1332621593 471867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = map concat . transpose . map (\x -> [x <$ guard (p x) | p <- ps]) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] < 1332621595 265582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[2,4,6,8,10],[1,3,5,7,9]] < 1332621597 584854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that's marginally nicer. < 1332621641 500631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1332621657 436048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = transpose . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] < 1332621658 333822 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (f a)) < 1332621658 554884 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `M7605977044... < 1332621662 428042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1332621667 541414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = transpose . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] :: [[[Integer]]] < 1332621669 360552 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[[],[2],[],[4],[],[6],[],[8],[],[10]],[[1],[],[3],[],[5],[],[7],[],[9],[]]] < 1332621682 24953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = transpose . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] :: [[Maybe Integer]] < 1332621683 662800 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[Nothing,Just 2,Nothing,Just 4,Nothing,Just 6,Nothing,Just 8,Nothing,Just ... < 1332621692 113347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = map catMaybes . transpose . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] :: [[Maybe Integer]] < 1332621693 37194 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Real.Integral < 1332621693 258512 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Data.Maybe.Maybe GH... < 1332621695 664638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = map catMaybes . transpose . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] :: [[Integer]] < 1332621697 33855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Terminated < 1332621698 620981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1332621699 91750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = map catMaybes . transpose . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] :: [[Integer]] < 1332621700 869328 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[2,4,6,8,10],[1,3,5,7,9]] < 1332621754 901895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1332621770 283113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's supposed to work for more than the list monad? < 1332621794 239726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1332621798 452641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1332621805 818247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just trying to come up with a pretty implementation of [a -> Bool] -> [a] -> [[a]] < 1332621809 835096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the obvious presented semantics < 1332621818 242507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't think that last one was aesthetically pleasing enough. < 1332621822 277364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = map catMaybes . transpose . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) in filterN [even, odd] [1..] :: [[Integer]] < 1332621824 215946 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,42,44,46,48,50,52... < 1332621829 377054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, at least that works now < 1332621907 527294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = transpose . map catMaybes . map (\x -> map (\p -> x <$ guard (p x)) ps) in filterN [even, odd] [1..] :: [[Integer]] < 1332621909 303004 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,2... < 1332621913 746766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1332621969 401129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (flip . map filter) [even, odd] [1..10] < 1332621971 148678 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[2,4,6,8,10],[1,3,5,7,9]] < 1332621980 298653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1332622034 22630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um yes that's obvious. < 1332622042 487861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it traverses the list multiple times. < 1332622044 502854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sequence . map filter) [even, odd] [1..10] -- slightly more portable, i think < 1332622046 161861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[2,4,6,8,10],[1,3,5,7,9]] < 1332622047 358073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and therefore has bad space usage.) < 1332622050 531909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1332622069 702500 :augur!~augur@c-69-140-14-132.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332622100 449929 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: hey, can you do something for me? < 1332622116 992388 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on what that thing is < 1332622137 56096 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332622165 281570 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett? < 1332622236 260799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is now seeking for someone else to hide the body. < 1332622247 491845 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: try ending all your sentences with periods for a while. < 1332622271 610961 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about interrogative sentences?. < 1332622271 989350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the questions. < 1332622275 683526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snap. < 1332622278 378744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exclamation. < 1332622283 4929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would he do that. < 1332622292 546963 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to say that ? incorporates a little period in it. < 1332622300 709018 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1332622333 191576 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I can't use American-style quotes? < 1332622347 502718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which style is that? < 1332622348 622340 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.". < 1332622351 636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them is stupid and nobody should use them. < 1332622353 749894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's neither. < 1332622355 718000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Dijkstra-style. < 1332622369 38967 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote mark after puctuation. < 1332622379 964939 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since tswett wants me to end sentences with periods... < 1332622393 417731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote mark after punctuation is abominable, unless the punctuation itself is part of the quote. < 1332622398 23877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone who does it should be "shot." < 1332622408 402780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like shot, but more final. < 1332622412 816521 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How are you?", she asked. < 1332622458 624586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That comma is stupid. < 1332622461 361381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to kill that comma. < 1332622465 13266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get rid of it. < 1332622479 361517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like "Oranges, ate sam." Okay, maybe it's not so bad. < 1332622484 162713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm eyeing it suspiciously. < 1332622526 719060 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That comma belongs there. < 1332622557 681258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, maybe it does; but I'm still allowed to be suspicious of it. < 1332623071 323084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = transpose . map catMaybes . map ((<$)<$>guard.p<$>ps) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] < 1332623072 387313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[Data.Maybe.Maybe a]' < 1332623072 574712 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferre... < 1332623078 566365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1332623087 301058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0<$>) < 1332623088 204653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Data.Functor.<$>' [infixl 4] of a section < 1332623088 392016 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have lowe... < 1332623101 761803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1332623514 923067 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree; punctuations marks should be inside of the quotation marks only in case the punctuation is part of a quotation. < 1332623549 94515 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sometimes known as "British style" or "logical style") < 1332623621 35857 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-245-233.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there's "programmer style". This is a nice example: "I for one think punctuation is attached to a sentence, so it shouldn't really be dropped just because it's in a quote.". < 1332623970 8779 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1332624018 629956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = transpose . map catMaybes . map ((<$> ps) . flip (((<$)<$>).(guard.)) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] < 1332624019 630705 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `in' < 1332624021 199174 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How are you?/0what a boring day *hic*", she asked. < 1332624032 223306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let filterN ps = transpose . map catMaybes . map ((<$> ps) . flip (((<$)<$>).(guard.))) in filterN [even, odd] [1..10] < 1332624033 294850 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Data.Maybe.Maybe a' < 1332624033 481953 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred ... < 1332624040 123020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives up.
< 1332624057 791020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you certainly managed to make it more. < 1332624064 155623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1332624065 840778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more elegant, I'm not so sure about. < 1332624067 237389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more. < 1332624102 588442 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I was away watching Stargate SG-1. The dos newlines thing is quite interesting. (The script was written for Linux, and after that I ported it for Darwin 8/OS X 10.4 so it might misbehave in Solaris.) Do you have any idea why gawk and gsed don't try to emulate standard wak and sed behavior when called with those name? < 1332624121 137375 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gawk and gsed are GNU awk and sed < 1332624128 364855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (((<$)<$>).(guard.)) < 1332624129 249568 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) b (f1 :: * -> *) (m :: * -> *). (Functor f, Functor f1, MonadPlus m) => f1 Bool -> f1 (f b -> f (m ())) < 1332624147 63775 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :awk and sed are solaris's own < 1332624154 885527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: And gquack is the GNU duck. < 1332624158 98239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION continues giving up.
< 1332624212 64170 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I meant on systems like Linux and OS X so there wouldn't be so much portability issues < 1332624240 36976 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it depends on your specific system < 1332624364 540838 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do GNU versions of standard unix utilities like awk, sed and make sometimes emulate standard behavior? < 1332624411 371047 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :awk seems to have --compat/--traditional < 1332624420 550261 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sed has --posix < 1332624451 746296 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't see anything similar for make < 1332624470 965694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU bash has that posix mode auto-enabled when you call it "sh". < 1332624474 981742 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't is then the standard behavior if they are called awk and sed? < 1332624506 711733 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think awk, sed, make and all those programs should do the same < 1332624519 153820 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And do you also think GCC should disable extensions by default? < 1332624588 351473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU would be fun if it tried to be perfectly compatible by default. < 1332624593 169757 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think that it should disable them if it gets called cc, but use them if called gcc < 1332624597 565641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "fun", I mean "agonising", because 80s Unix was shitty as all hell. < 1332624612 533183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: surely you mean c89/c90 < 1332624614 540654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*c99 < 1332624617 724372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it c90 and c99 < 1332624622 734811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever; the POSIX defined things < 1332624632 608179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think POSIX guarantees cc has no extensions < 1332624635 903815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the same "should" apply for GNU tar. < 1332624651 83601 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: c90 is the same as c89 < 1332624671 751064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see only "c99" in POSIX. < 1332624677 638082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It "shall accept source code conforming to the ISO C standard". < 1332624682 27919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, POSIX 2008, anyway. < 1332624683 697249 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I meant c99 < 1332624686 23355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: They are not the same byte strings. < 1332624691 718741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX only defines one, I believe. < 1332624701 247036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Right, but didn't POSIX exist before 1999? < 1332624718 467535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, sure. < 1332624750 139570 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: c89 and c90 are the same standard, but one is c89 is ANSI standard and c90 is ISO standard < 1332624760 170440 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-one is < 1332624771 449576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Yes, I'm aware. < 1332624777 273572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am talking about the commands standardised by POSIX. < 1332624785 561307 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1332624876 850212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeBSD man pages have "c89 - POSIX.2 C language compiler", so I suppose it was that. < 1332624890 443619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't be bothered to try locating a more authoritative source. < 1332624928 668324 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So, elliott," tswett says, "it seems like you would object to my use of commas here." < 1332624965 509031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So,,, elliott,,",,, says, fizzie,,, ",,, do you think there are ,,enough,, commas here,",, < 1332625001 958418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nO,,, < 1332625088 32154 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :T,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,h,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,e,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,r,,,,,,,,,,,,,e,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,s,,,,,,,,,,,,,h,,,,,,,,,,,,,o,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,u,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,l,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,b,,,,,,,,,,e,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,m,,,,,,,,,,,,,o,,,,,,,,r,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,e,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,c,,,,,,,,,,,,,,o,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,m,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,m,,,,,,,,,,,,,a,,,,,,,,,,,,,,s < 1332625089 971600 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :, < 1332625100 112766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, < 1332625117 804799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The funniest. g++ has a "-std=c++1y" for "[t]he next revision of the ISO C++ standard, tentatively planned for 2017". < 1332625130 125527 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length ",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,," < 1332625130 958830 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 33 < 1332625132 249974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose "c++1x" would've been too confusing, since "c++0x" came out in 1x. < 1332625150 924155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a clever solution to just bump the letter up. < 1332625156 18772 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length ",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,," < 1332625157 92123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 28 < 1332625161 452802 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're short by five. < 1332625162 472397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr ',' < 1332625163 356762 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Int' < 1332625163 543292 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type ... < 1332625167 653913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord ',' < 1332625168 158839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When "c++1y" comes out in 2021, they'll probably call the next one "c++2z". < 1332625168 474032 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 44 < 1332625178 404161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord , < 1332625178 565594 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :44 < 1332625183 112520 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the couldn't just call it c++11? < 1332625226 326113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's the one that came out in 2011? < 1332625235 892149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: And after that they'll be screwed. < 1332625249 476783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "c++3" ++ [chr (ord 'z' + 1)] < 1332625251 13221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "c++3{" < 1332625260 526577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks nice. < 1332625279 72069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then "c++4|" which will have some quoting-related problems here and there. < 1332625303 414001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :After c++6~, though... < 1332625320 127690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++3{ the most disturbing smiley < 1332625341 657772 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :After c++6~ comes c++ < 1332625371 367567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you a characters. < 1332625374 547653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's clever. < 1332625379 990993 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope. < 1332625385 303969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, backspace? < 1332625386 21925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1332625434 967740 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe we'll be Unicode enough by then that c++7␡ is acceptable. < 1332625535 128414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: In Unicode 72 they've probably removed the "Control Pictures" block because the word "control" is politically incorrect. < 1332625538 513226 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant c++17 < 1332625564 588108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Keyword "tentatively". < 1332625567 770099 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-245-233.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: This is the standard unwilling to change typos in codepoint names. < 1332625573 628757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++0x was planned for 200x, after all. < 1332625587 98341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tentatively" in the sense of "not". < 1332625618 941486 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that it has an 'x' (or 'y') in it is also a good reminder it's not final. < 1332625720 725281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't seem to have a name yet for whatever will be after c11. < 1332625776 361669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c99, c11... Must be c22 next. < 1332625825 122883 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They skipped c00 for that to make sense, so I'd guess c23. < 1332625978 301170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Eh? < 1332625993 267364 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no next one is c26. 90->99 is 9 (3*3) years and 99->11 is 12 (4*3) years, so next will be 11->26 (5*3) < 1332626009 778056 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: c99 -> c11 is 12 years, c11 -> c23 is also 12 years. < 1332626026 42935 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+which is 15 < 1332626026 954908 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: c99, c00, c11, c22 would make sense if they wanted double digits. < 1332626053 436295 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: but what about c90->c99? < 1332626084 686102 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yours is the only progression thus far that works for that too. < 1332626091 333514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+%283%2F2%29*x%5E2%2B%2815%2F2%29*x%2B1990+for+x%3D0..4 suggests 2044. < 1332626101 911194 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If c00 existed, we could discount c90 as a fluke since it was the first release. :-P < 1332626109 444052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I skipped one. < 1332626111 262327 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then the double digits thing would still be acceptable. < 1332626123 946281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 2026, then 2044. < 1332626145 582823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: c99, c00, c11, c22 would make sense if they wanted double digits. < 1332626158 635304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, obviously they skip it if there's not enough time to prepare a new spec. < 1332626162 147989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be c33, aftera ll. < 1332626175 265236 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Then they should've waited for it instead of doing c99. < 1332626189 532263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Who are *you* to tell the committee what to do? < 1332626197 659510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're BANNED FROM C. < 1332626206 682540 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just another lazy programmer. < 1332626240 297525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 90,99,11 < 1332626240 955520 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1332626242 321488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1332626254 73678 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1990,1999,2011 < 1332626254 518723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1332626261 321109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 90 99 11 < 1332626261 994974 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1332626264 947088 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 90,99,110 < 1332626265 606556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Largest integer m such that every permutation (p_1, ..., p_n) of (1, ..., n)... < 1332626265 788886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,6,8,12,15,20,24,30,35,42,48,56,63,72,80,90,99,110,120,132,143,156,168... < 1332626269 727173 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops < 1332626270 733689 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 90,99,111 < 1332626271 908596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Number of nonnegative solutions to x^2 + y^2 + z^2 <= n. < 1332626272 97177 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,7,8,11,17,20,20,23,29,35,38,39,45,51,51,54,63,69,72,78,84,87,87,90,99,1... < 1332626312 599996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: According to that (A000606), they're going to have to release two C15's. < 1332626328 917799 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think A048955 and A128012 are better. < 1332626340 711113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 80,99,11 < 1332626341 671937 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1332626343 678443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 89,99,11 < 1332626344 385582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Concatenation of a and b, where a is the reduced sum of the digits of n and ... < 1332626344 573942 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,11,23,36,41,56,63,71,89,99,11,23,36,41] < 1332626351 591363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, Deewiant was right. < 1332626353 222266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C23 it is. < 1332626358 750170 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1332626371 95713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 89,99,111 < 1332626371 803498 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Numbers with digits in nondecreasing order. < 1332626371 991216 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,33,3... < 1332626379 729874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, come on. < 1332626404 72257 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : @oeis really should do some appropriate dropWhileing. < 1332626426 739754 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A076273 suggests c19. < 1332626595 709465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1989,1999,2011 < 1332626596 613114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1332626598 791154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1990,1999,2011 < 1332626599 233858 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1332626641 211894 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 990,999,1011 < 1332626642 117926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1332626643 727415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Interestingly, if you fit a second-degree polynomial to (1,1990), (2,1999) and (3,2011), not only does it give you the next standard ((4,2026) -> C26) but you can also see that that C standard is how Big Brother is keeping us all under control. (See (0,1984).) < 1332626644 991105 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 989,999,1011 < 1332626645 846803 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1332626655 960832 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :using my system it would be 1990->1999->2011->2026->2044->2065->2089 < 1332626681 441893 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's nortti's system again, no? Differences 6, 9, 12, 15. < 1332626694 860757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is the same thing. < 1332626710 434271 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yes < 1332626835 446535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Targets (37): bash-4.2.024-2 chromium-17.0.963.83-1 device-mapper-2.02.95-1 fontsproto-2.1.2-1 intel-dri-8.0.2-1 iproute2-3.2.0-3 < 1332626835 607870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : kbproto-1.0.6-1 lib32-libdrm-2.4.32-1 lib32-libgl-8.0.2-1 lib32-libglapi-8.0.2-1 lib32-mesa-8.0.2-1 lib32-openssl-1.0.1-1 < 1332626835 608052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libdrm-2.4.32-1 libftdi-0.20-1 libgl-8.0.2-1 libglapi-8.0.2-1 libxaw-1.0.10-1 linux-3.2.12-1 lvm2-2.02.95-1 mercurial-2.1.1-2 < 1332626835 608163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : mesa-8.0.2-1 mpg123-1.13.6-1 neon-0.29.6-4 openssh-5.9p1-8 openssl-1.0.1-1 psmisc-22.16-1 quodlibet-2.4-1 recordproto-1.14.2-1 < 1332626838 450297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : scrnsaverproto-1.2.2-1 vim-7.3.475-1 vim-runtime-7.3.475-1 xcb-proto-1.7.1-1 xextproto-7.2.1-1 xorg-setxkbmap-1.3.0-1 < 1332626841 453621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : xorg-xauth-1.0.7-1 xorg-xkbcomp-1.2.4-1 xorg-xmodmap-1.0.6-1 < 1332626843 456586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So many MUPGRADES. < 1332626847 339579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Total Download Size: 93.14 MiB < 1332626847 500652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Total Installed Size: 276.41 MiB < 1332626849 343749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Net Upgrade Size: -1.15 MiB < 1332626851 233959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's good. < 1332626874 875518 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So long since you last MUPGRADED. < 1332626955 108584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :octave:1> f = @(x) (81/4)*exp(log(4/3)*x)+1963 < 1332626955 311471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :f = < 1332626955 311563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@(x) (81 / 4) * exp (log (4 / 3) * x) + 1963 < 1332626955 311607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :octave:2> f([0 1 2 3 4]) < 1332626955 311653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ans = < 1332626955 589141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1332626957 606112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1983.2 1990.0 1999.0 2011.0 2027.0 < 1332626995 2777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :After C27, we'll have C48.3 and C76.8. < 1332627263 574918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND. well, at least once. < 1332627304 327983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, < 1332627305 807196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :octave:10> f = @(x) -(63*sqrt(15))/8*tan(-2*atan(4-sqrt(15))*x)+15857/8; f([1 2 3 4 5 6 7]) < 1332627308 824429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ans = < 1332627311 323068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1990.0 1999.0 2011.0 2030.8 2078.2 2539.0 1830.1 < 1332627320 542353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Excellent! Now elect me benevolent dictator for life of the world. < 1332627330 994481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There will be some sort of a singularity event after the sixth C standard in 2539. < 1332627365 108116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly just a new calendar. < 1332627367 946419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That nearly-five-centuries delay is a doozy. < 1332627389 305750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"C8x, released in 2539" < 1332627428 882515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : @oeis really should do some appropriate dropWhileing. <-- i'm pretty sure it does? also, even more if you use space instead of commas. < 1332627439 219714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw [[LOLCODE]] has the same kind of broken -around-a-pre :P < 1332627474 12253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :relatedly to oerjan not hating me forever, i'm totally going to look into that W-next-to-interwiki-links tomorrow. < 1332627489 527971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I assumed the point was that it'd show the match in the example, instead of just starting from the beginning. < 1332627527 168335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: btw [[LOLCODE]] has the same kind of broken -around-a-pre :P <-- i'm not through the recent changes yet < 1332627553 815117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also based on a very quick test using spaces didn't seem to matter when done via lambdabot. (Via the website, sure.) < 1332627557 313789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 11 45 88 22 < 1332627557 944310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1332627565 51673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That has 1218 matches on the website. < 1332627590 238701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Excellent! Now elect me benevolent dictator for life of the world. <-- i can still be the evil one, right? < 1332627590 932103 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1990 1999 2011 2026 2044 < 1332627591 525884 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1332627662 709222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: huh. < 1332627703 517771 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1332627736 479782 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B74B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332627912 895260 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What fizzie said re. the point. < 1332628056 184512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, like, is no point. < 1332628138 906398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eagerly awaits oerjan's copy-editing of [[Snack]]
< 1332628364 522433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting with bated breath < 1332629120 162789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, /// has been the featured language for 5 days already. < 1332629146 316600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you know, [[Bitwise Cyclic Tag]] has a bunch of preformatted execution traces... < 1332629154 259111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...just sayin' < 1332629168 787642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1332629202 843976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tableises the instruction reference anyway.
< 1332629206 348710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel it is my duty. < 1332629239 822679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EDIT CONFLICT < 1332629244 924555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits a bit
< 1332629295 768597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i can't think of an elegant way to express 1's execution without those direct line-breaks, so I will hold off on that for now. < 1332629328 976274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does not envy oerjan when he gets to http://esolangs.org/wiki/Bitwise_Cyclic_Tag#Example_2
< 1332629373 980102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1332629397 960648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I'll wikify that one. < 1332629403 223245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks fun! < 1332629571 76865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (btw i'm actually doing it, just to avoid ecs) < 1332629805 393725 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make the list of Haskell Ephemeris ID numbers, including planets, dwarf planets, sun, moon, satellites, asteroids, fixed stars, artificial objects, fictitious objects, etc < 1332629855 11048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1332629915 135861 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I didn't mean you, I meant an astronomer. < 1332630031 607610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1332630108 240810 :Sofox!~sofox@unaffiliated/sofox JOIN :#esoteric < 1332630202 724572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Sofox < 1332630205 726241 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sofox: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1332630232 827404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: half-finished work on bct table is in ~/tmp/bct. (tables r hard) < 1332630250 193990 :Sofox!~sofox@unaffiliated/sofox PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello elliott, and HackEgo. < 1332630299 484341 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the purpose of fictitious objects, an astrologer should work on it too. But some fictitious object are not used much by astronomy or astrology, such as Julian Ecclesiastical Moon, etc < 1332630303 371486 :Sofox!~sofox@unaffiliated/sofox PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly are friendly here. < 1332630328 782197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Re "tables r hard", I hear it'd be trivial if you used nonsense query tables instead. < 1332630330 446576 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sofox: Read the wiki and/or logs < 1332630341 246807 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1332630426 409007 :Sofox!~sofox@unaffiliated/sofox PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love esoteric programming languages. < 1332630441 676801 :Sofox!~sofox@unaffiliated/sofox PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't programmed using one of them yet, but I'd like to try something out in LOLCODE or Brainfuck. < 1332630462 228859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're all friendly here. Apart from all the horrible people. Like me. < 1332630462 678991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats fizzie -----###
< 1332630469 139257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Say hi to Sofox! < 1332630470 66576 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i misread that, then, between symbols and functions ( defun and defparameter) while scheme makes no distinction ( define) :) < 1332630473 274754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i assume you wanted me to < 1332630484 986311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: To... < 1332630502 360441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to what i did in the previous line < 1332630508 298390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1332630514 553416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know, swat anyone and everyone. < 1332630519 602571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: When in doubt, swat. < 1332630525 237814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1332630616 49839 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nuq < 1332630637 636589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats Sofox as well. I'm sure Phantom_Hoover would want me to, after his last comment. -----###
< 1332630652 216070 :Sofox!~sofox@unaffiliated/sofox PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1332630659 582808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, that's brainfuck proper, not a derivative. < 1332630694 236028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The "L" word might draw some hoover-ire even when it's not about a derivative. < 1332630708 185092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes. < 1332630730 325751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have also read more of today's logs than is healthy. < 1332631259 713765 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sofox, hello, I am friendly until you make a Brainfuck derivative. < 1332631273 186559 :Sofox!~sofox@unaffiliated/sofox PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom: And then what? < 1332631311 723715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then come the bricks. < 1332631327 317103 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amd out go the brains. < 1332631329 879240 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and < 1332631623 335869 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, Phantom_Hoover elliott MUFFIN < 1332631625 229862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoovire. < 1332631631 594989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a Phantom_Hoover elliott muffin. < 1332631635 487015 :zbrown!~zbrown@rufius.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1332631666 55273 :zbrown!~zbrown@rufius.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332632582 541796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: zzo38: wtf < 1332632590 744380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: zzo38: that magic set editor thing was written by a haskeller! < 1332632610 628036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Twan van Laarhoven, the author of e.g. lambdabot's reflection stuff) < 1332632807 449873 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know the person who wrote MSE also wrote programs in Haskell (although MSE itself is written in C++) < 1332632859 603377 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(However he had no intention to include pure versions of MSE's impure functions) < 1332632984 430327 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But MSE is full of various problems anyways so I make TeXnicard, which is written in C and does not use floating points at all except for PNG compression (which is lossless anyways, so slightly different computers will still result in the same output, although the actual bytes of the file might differ) < 1332633085 706057 :augur!~augur@c-69-140-14-132.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332633086 391660 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-245-233.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... MSE is so bad. So horribly bad. < 1332633134 957801 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I know... you can write bad codes in any programming language... < 1332633172 35797 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Do you think TeXnicard is any better than MSE? < 1332633237 580792 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-245-233.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I've not looked at it immensely, but I'd certainly imagine it is. < 1332633246 162490 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-245-233.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At minimum, it's using a vastly better typesetting system. < 1332633258 978109 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1332633375 512630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME < 1332633389 785114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cries
< 1332633508 966145 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, yes, it is a typesetting system based on TeX, so certainly that part would be better. But, I mean, other stuff too, what you would figure out from this. But can someone else improve the documentation for the parts of the program that are already working (which is most of it)?