< 1334016690 228447 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE88BF6.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334016700 652441 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334016773 298947 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Synchtube is not perfect :( < 1334016864 341816 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1334017357 509196 :oerjan_!50cadfda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.202.223.218 QUIT :Quit: What is this button for? < 1334017954 770472 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no other symbol but lambda that's universally recognized as a symbol for programming languages, no? < 1334017994 818560 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda is not universally recognized as a symbol for programming languages < 1334018009 284353 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334018014 501249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr it's also a symbol for lesbians? < 1334018017 273245 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It is by all who are not made of fail. < 1334018036 23520 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: EVEN BETTER < 1334018090 917731 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db434ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda indeed has a lot of associations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda < 1334018104 115148 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1334018106 201318 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net NICK :Mathnerd314 < 1334018124 251549 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let me phrase that differently: < 1334018164 602819 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point is more than putting lambdas on everything is a kind of political statement within programming languages < 1334018179 642993 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that everyone recognizes it as a symbol for programming languages, but those who are "into" programming languages consider it a symbol for the concept. < 1334018187 457560 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or will be seen as such by many < 1334018212 556303 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plenty of people appreciate FP and yet are annoyed by the people who think that incorporating crazy FP concepts is the only criterion for language goodness < 1334018295 906150 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :[02:36:04] my point is more than putting lambdas on everything is a kind of political statement within programming languages < 1334018296 759729 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep ^ < 1334018494 203950 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22, the jedis lived a long time ago and are surely dead by now < 1334018515 957551 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe they came to earth and are now known as.... LISP PROGRAMMERS!?!?!? < 1334018606 932251 :epoch_qwert!~epoch@dhcp-98-159-75-170.arkwest.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1334019388 886429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes but the galaxy is 50 million light years away, so their light may not have reached us yet < 1334019426 127904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1334019551 421563 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that canon? < 1334019927 754275 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: far far = 50 million light years < 1334019938 627454 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the definition < 1334019987 567489 :epoch_qwert!~epoch@dhcp-98-159-75-170.arkwest.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about star-wars? < 1334020217 48097 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were talking about far far away Jedis, so it's Star Trek, clearly. < 1334020351 362821 :epoch_qwert!~epoch@dhcp-98-159-75-170.arkwest.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I saw that hinted at starwars was "galaxy ... away" and "far far" < 1334020386 777255 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: How many light years is far? < 1334020400 778241 :epoch_qwert!~epoch@dhcp-98-159-75-170.arkwest.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :far far = 50 million, far = sqrt(far far) ? < 1334020413 376560 :epoch_qwert!~epoch@dhcp-98-159-75-170.arkwest.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what ' ' means? < 1334020838 675467 :Mortchek!~danny@pool-108-28-43-209.washdc.fios.verizon.net PART :#esoteric < 1334020855 739809 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334020862 228171 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1334021853 974996 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1334022462 443476 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.226.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334024900 384013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334025704 513743 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334025876 207551 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1334025917 487176 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus21 < 1334026401 422607 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello zzo38 < 1334026533 93433 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Hello. Any question/comment/complaint? < 1334026573 286932 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope just saying hello < 1334026576 938325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1334026585 528324 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in the topic what is "the other idea" < 1334026633 550421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/recording/level20_idea.txt < 1334026704 906241 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There are all sorts of other complications like running code in the mapped pages. < 1334026768 231446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what "the other idea" is that I was refering to < 1334026769 290238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i like the "no monsters in the library" one < 1334026798 716341 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an esolang that requires nested escaping to do anything useful? < 1334026807 540999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Well, it is based on something in the computer game "Super ASCII MZX Town", which contains a lot of silly stuff. < 1334026848 665922 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word "tutorial" annoys me more and more these days. < 1334026857 170483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Yes I think there is, but I forget what it is called < 1334026857 348114 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably mostly for vaguely conalish reasons. < 1334026886 7459 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just working on a shell script escaping backticks and quotes (where the amount of escaping was different for each) and thought .. wow this would make for a great esolang < 1334026909 963466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: /// has a lot of escaping < 1334026930 244588 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't care if you copy things. it's a good challenge. < 1334026981 432524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It is a computer game I made myself, as it turns out. If the monsters needs the book you can go in the library and get it for them, is how this computer game works. < 1334027043 399526 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh i was thinking that you were putting it a dnd game, where the party is chased by monsters and they lock themselves inside a library, but if any monster gets end the game ends and everybody dies < 1334027047 809839 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gets in < 1334027121 53908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I did have the idea for the D&D game; but I wrote "apparently" and no this isn't the scenario I was thinking of (the party in this D&D game consist of some monster characters too) < 1334027138 630350 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did olsner.se go down? < 1334027154 885523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just because someone wrote that on a sign does not make it true anyways < 1334027220 427861 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, it could be that the universe ends only if a monster touches the book-of-power. and even then only if a d20 comes up 9 or less. < 1334027231 148286 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: thanks, that's probably close enough < 1334027295 944998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That is one way to do what I wrote; not what I had in mind but of course you can make up scenarios in D&D game using my ideas, with various modifications. In Super ASCII MZX Town, the librarian just put that on the sign because they didn't want monsters in their library. But problem is, the sign is *inside* the library. < 1334027396 411029 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think you should do it one of these exciting ways. not just silly. < 1334027485 397391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Your ways do work. And, yes, it could be possible that they wrote that on the sign even though it is only sometimes the case! And some player characters can be monster characters anyways, but some isn't so it works < 1334027502 310295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am not going to write any additional details on that note because I am not the referee < 1334027556 141130 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.226.20 NICK :MSleep < 1334027630 423653 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is the referee? < 1334027644 638064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone else! < 1334027664 102449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually called the GM or Dungeons Master; "referee" is an uncommon term but I use it < 1334027823 411849 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1334027940 504704 :SingingBoyo!~IceChat77@173.180.188.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334028031 54589 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the purpose of that document zzo38? < 1334028034 181681 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you write it? < 1334028211 544839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Just some ideas I had for possible situation in Dungeons&Dragons game < 1334028238 736066 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh i thought you were making ideas for yourself to use in your own games < 1334028256 446359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have my own game then yes I might use the idea too < 1334028287 636148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just so you know, Isolde and Kjugobe are names of two of the player characters in a game I am in; of course if use in other game we could change them) < 1334028329 66769 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, the dungeons master does like this list! And in case they run out of idea might pick one I don't know which one is picked, and with some other things too not specified so that we don't know what exactly happened < 1334028533 549841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would make it interesting is such situations as these interwoven with other things too. < 1334029004 209010 :Case2!~Dr._Danee@adsl-98-82-8-197.jax.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334029114 544321 :Case1!~Dr._Danee@adsl-98-82-8-197.jax.bellsouth.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1334029313 976746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made generalize of function in Haskell, such as: tail :: MonadLogic m => m x -> m x; (!!) :: (Copeanoid i, Foldable t) => t x -> i -> x; length :: (Peanoid i, Foldable t) => t x -> i; filter :: MonadPlus m => (x -> Bool) -> m x -> m x; iterate :: Alternative f => (x -> x) -> x -> f x; < 1334029353 890963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it good or is there other way, or other generalize too? < 1334029647 584045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could have this: unfoldTree :: Functor f => (b -> (a, f b)) -> b -> Cofree f a; < 1334032291 863924 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1334032292 111433 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1334032292 271449 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1334032310 871990 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334032419 267896 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the word you should use there is "generalization"...if you care < 1334032769 866163 :SingingBoyo!~IceChat77@173.180.188.233 QUIT :Quit: Hard work pays off in the future, laziness pays off now < 1334032930 273721 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1334032963 130236 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read that as "I have made a generalisation of Haskell" at first < 1334032985 67602 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which doesn't seem like an uncommon task < 1334032992 121784 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334032998 355831 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1334035548 275240 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334035878 803023 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1334035891 563202 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1334036775 280011 :Case2!~Dr._Danee@adsl-98-82-8-197.jax.bellsouth.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1334037700 444047 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1334038555 579030 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334038681 244830 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334038688 801718 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Brainfuck < 1334038693 805121 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​106 +++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++++>+++++++++>+<<<<-]>.>++++.>--.++++++++.+++++.--------.<+++.>---.++++++++.>-. [147] < 1334038718 682117 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in QUIT :Client Quit < 1334038751 666777 :NSQX!3bb6bc5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.182.188.91 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334038764 200904 :NSQX!3bb6bc5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.182.188.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen brainfuck < 1334038766 724721 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​100 ++++++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++>+><<<<-]>.>++.<-.++++++++.+++++.--------.>+++.<---.++++++++.>>----. [149] < 1334038782 33549 :NSQX!3bb6bc5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.182.188.91 QUIT :Client Quit < 1334038800 218916 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1334040522 854930 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643] < 1334044005 841294 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334044066 7277 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our sub-lime wiki has been out of order for the last four days. What are you waiting for before you start editing again? < 1334044192 990393 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you all doing instead of editing this wiki and creating new esoteric programming languages? < 1334044257 604573 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX, it's not out of order. < 1334044303 207252 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... what do you mean by out of order < 1334044333 323096 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quality over quantity, NSQX < 1334044344 821220 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let you ponder on that < 1334044374 116207 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, http://namelesswiki.com/ has been out of order for longer. There has been no real activity on http://namelesswiki.com/ for almost a month and http://namelesswiki.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges has been filled with spamming of [[Talk:Denial of Service Attack]] since 27th March 2012. However, what if that could happen to our sub-lime wiki? < 1334044404 246247 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already has < 1334044432 504608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PART :#esoteric < 1334044438 686309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334044479 637187 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX, I would not use that wiki for security advice. < 1334044517 867119 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, what are you all doing instead of thinking of new esoteric programming languages? < 1334044528 881944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX: Everything < 1334044535 260757 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet nothing < 1334044539 909993 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1334044552 64326 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.namelesswiki.com/wiki/SQL_Injection < 1334044565 592725 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Everything instead of thinking of new esoteric programming languages or helping with the List of ideas? < 1334044567 455286 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Prevention section suggests filtering dangerous characters. < 1334044579 503728 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no mention of parameterized queries of any sort. < 1334044580 449919 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Everything except thinking of new esoteric programming languages or helping with the List of ideas? < 1334044622 403488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX: No, everything regardless. Just because we did not post it does not necessarily mean we did not think of it yet! < 1334044624 944875 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a not bad, yet utterly irrelevant to the page, suggestion of not storing plaintext passwords < 1334044738 433379 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX, why do you look at nameless wiki? < 1334044829 775567 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the first time I went to the Nameless Wiki is when I went to the "Nameless language at Nameless Wiki" link on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Nameless_language < 1334044900 625320 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck derivative? < 1334044934 123301 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you think about it, every language is, like, a BF derivative, man. < 1334044947 969184 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334044978 433675 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I thought you swore off hi forever. < 1334044987 859821 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's elliott < 1334044995 580390 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe elliotts too < 1334045001 833430 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm neither elliott not elliotts < 1334045003 785366 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm monqy < 1334045008 464904 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliotts a confusing one < 1334045011 147533 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334045024 471495 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334045031 121602 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like peter and the wolf < 1334045034 183088 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1334045037 377975 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying hi after greeted is irresistable < 1334045038 84146 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1334045040 798332 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1334045044 558966 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i scare you < 1334045045 51925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :irresistible < 1334045091 614687 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: E.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XKlEfvP-lo < 1334045132 419709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of it < 1334045160 241705 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Obviousness, it seems, eludes some people. Idiots mostly, including you. IDIOT!!!!" < 1334045163 948373 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : - youtube comment < 1334045166 891634 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : - youtube < 1334045169 438274 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : - hi < 1334045176 238814 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a poem < 1334045210 689057 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I don't know whether you've heard of it, but have you heard it? < 1334045216 868111 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1334045223 292204 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should hear it. < 1334045263 587936 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy and the wolf < 1334045266 258913 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy, wolf < 1334045275 599859 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whos wolf < 1334045307 118264 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott :( < 1334045325 327400 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1334045328 896200 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, elliott will read the logs and hate me when he gets back online. < 1334045361 914803 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he won't read the logs < 1334045365 208083 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: If saying hi after being greeted is irresistible, is it irresistible to respond with hi? < 1334045369 888833 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334045376 97339 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1334045382 317376 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1334045397 694976 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to kick this habit !!! < 1334045406 746746 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like drugs, and I'm kicking it < 1334045411 382390 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you kick drugs < 1334045418 888255 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else would I do with drugs < 1334045423 776730 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, elliott will read the logs and think about " Our sub-lime wiki has been out of order for the last four days. What are you waiting for before you start editing again?" and further into that conversation. < 1334045433 171548 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1334045448 107854 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they really added a lot of crap in C++11 < 1334045453 609815 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX: if he doesn't, I'll make him. it is an important concern and he should think aboutit < 1334045462 872233 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: salutations < 1334045473 439221 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat torn between wanting to use new shiny features and wanting to nuke-from-orbit all traces of C++ I know < 1334045497 109233 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, monqy, < 1334045498 210106 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1334045499 309326 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Ahoy! < 1334045507 79872 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1334045512 109713 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greetings. < 1334045516 831621 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hye < 1334045525 653350 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's dangerously close to "hi". < 1334045527 947895 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :high monqy < 1334045544 928542 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :high shachaf < 1334045617 198927 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:13 < mm_freak> the docs state that hamlet is inspired by haml < 1334045618 952686 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Hamlet was inspired by Shakespeare. < 1334045620 756006 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shakespeare < 1334045639 915536 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shakespeare here < 1334045646 149519 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1334045649 952800 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning, shakespeare < 1334045656 342123 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evening, itidus20 < 1334045660 48752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good afternoon, shachaf < 1334045673 365454 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good day, everyone < 1334045690 798625 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1334045698 396605 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :こんにちは monqy < 1334045699 847508 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kidding < 1334045706 126747 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job so far in kicking the habit < 1334045710 896608 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hibit < 1334045713 170557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1334045814 688643 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :היי שחף < 1334045854 524738 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :היי מונקי < 1334045872 802917 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did I just type. :-( < 1334045878 478988 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1334045883 261835 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Translate says it's "Monkey". < 1334045892 330377 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google translate = Wrong translate. < 1334045900 674423 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says monqy < 1334045959 931881 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :בסדר < 1334045988 352405 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that say OK? < 1334045998 969468 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :כן < 1334046005 465793 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that say No? < 1334046012 393110 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :לא < 1334046015 571539 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334046021 751668 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that say No? < 1334046021 912306 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1334046021 912498 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1334046029 369729 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :כן < 1334046035 674299 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334046045 740440 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: greetings < 1334046048 70349 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: salutations < 1334046057 258727 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcoming! < 1334046064 812798 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: try asking a yes/no question that you know the answer to < 1334046074 306067 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: I know the answers to all of them. < 1334046086 609389 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1334046162 761322 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1334046748 453569 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334047180 939159 :Case1!~Dr._Danee@adsl-74-178-237-119.jax.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334047397 340470 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334047824 545515 :Case1!~Dr._Danee@adsl-74-178-237-119.jax.bellsouth.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1334048143 216113 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0E5E1.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1334048150 721566 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rasmus_Lerdorf http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/18665/ < 1334048191 333265 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh! < 1334048198 325474 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Finnair a Finnish airline? < 1334048245 568077 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1334048283 984776 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1334048310 722932 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a Finnair plane today < 1334048379 805011 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a smoking rubble? < 1334048416 881516 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close. < 1334048419 920201 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heathrow Airport < 1334048428 519167 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually hate programming, but I love solving problems. I really don't like programming. There are people who actually like programming. I don't understand why they like programming. I do care about memory leaks but I still don't find programming enjoyable. < 1334048448 62726 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you're in a programming channel < 1334048458 797291 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote php < 1334048472 315104 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-j < 1334048483 602361 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops.. i mean a haha smiley < 1334048502 66127 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from ion's link http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rasmus_Lerdorf < 1334048514 293746 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95C36.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334048514 819883 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah < 1334048519 927391 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still on the first link < 1334048559 172947 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Facebook and Wikipedia... could be written in Brainfuck" < 1334048591 54638 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU NEVER KNOW < 1334048595 86500 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know uh the quotes take on different meanings than if i said them since the person who said it is a programming celebrity < 1334048651 78684 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're more like a town drunk < 1334048661 327686 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, that is a great blog article < 1334048713 295705 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I noticed mosh. Seems very useful. And you seem to be one of the authors. :-) < 1334048720 446207 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1334048738 692837 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks :) < 1334048739 504422 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're in #mosh if you want to chat with KeithW, who did most of the design and coding < 1334048747 640132 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've mainly done security auditing and misc bugfixes < 1334048788 732168 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the only good think I can think of of PHP is that most web servers seem to have it built in < 1334048936 383006 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0E56F.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334048956 850281 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it has allowed a lot of casual/amateur programmers to produce things which are useful < 1334048968 764938 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is *a* redeeming quality < 1334048979 865368 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not enough to consider PHP a net social good < 1334048992 703384 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the default < 1334048993 58913 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it certainly could have that redeeming quality and still be way the hell better as a language < 1334049009 114432 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like Internet Explorer < 1334049444 595953 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'could be written in Brainfuck' < 1334049451 100032 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if brainfuck had meaningful io mechanisms sure < 1334049495 880085 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1334049508 335598 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck web server? < 1334049525 700744 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, you're the only one who can do this. < 1334049528 904618 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe in you. < 1334049639 212317 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's that thing https://github.com/ChickenProp/sysfuck < 1334049725 663972 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first app would be like you input an id number followed by a space into the brainfuck interpreter.. and it would output the corresponding record in html format, or an error message if the record can't be found < 1334049750 876524 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, syscall should be enough < 1334049955 47307 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION backs away slowly. < 1334050006 263858 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :put it this way: < 1334050007 592077 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :without syscalls < 1334050011 232896 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck can't even read to/write from files < 1334050038 362781 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or at least, not without a different non-brainfuck program redirecting its input/output?) < 1334050040 576751 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :err -? < 1334050070 776471 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im backing away slowly because i have no plans of writing any software in brainfuck < 1334050102 383655 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me neither < 1334050658 26446 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-228-146.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334050734 373395 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-150-217.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1334050987 486252 :epoch_qwert!~epoch@dhcp-98-159-75-170.arkwest.com QUIT :Quit: sleep(60*60*8) < 1334050999 283810 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334051382 405524 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1334051428 358274 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1334051810 552938 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334052062 408228 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1334052367 25071 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334052790 743465 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1334052918 653983 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334053195 451544 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334053196 506700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334053880 71661 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1334054053 278080 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OS X Terminal.app applies circumflex to part of escape sequence, then crashes." < 1334054774 704267 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B1333F2.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334054936 184842 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334055140 346818 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334055196 382646 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1334055586 148104 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1334055842 248844 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334056140 762977 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1334056265 190266 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1334057254 387382 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-228-146.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1334057273 176861 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-228-146.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334057817 247972 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95C36.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334058548 481206 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334058751 71459 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PART #esoteric :""elliott is not here"" < 1334058799 298793 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334058811 109425 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PART #esoteric :"elliott is not here" < 1334058849 104946 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334058854 812464 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PART #esoteric :"Oerjan?" < 1334058955 835787 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334058958 583013 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks there is no quality anymore < 1334058968 300792 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.188.91.mtnl.net.in PART :#esoteric < 1334061157 231845 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oerjan: NSQX is just not happy with you two ;) < 1334061493 572621 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B1333F2.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643] < 1334062296 317639 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334062661 300380 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1334063214 705533 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334063232 161640 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1334063513 568961 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334063563 208966 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1334063567 532469 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1334064208 774554 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I take it much attention has been paid to things like never using the same block key more than once and preventing replay attacks? < 1334065695 562774 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1334065816 77601 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How about leaking information in the timing of the packets? IIRC someone was able to correlate the timing information in an audio recording of typing to what keys were pressed. I suppose ssh doesn’t do anything about that either. < 1334065864 76203 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1334066081 471077 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1334066469 661652 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334066473 371457 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334066502 556111 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1334066895 608133 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd|VeryTiredS < 1334066905 313730 :Ngevd|VeryTiredS!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd|VeryTired < 1334067501 371607 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, the block-cipher key is simply pulled from /dev/urandom by mosh-server at session start < 1334067520 295593 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're using OCB3, an integrated authenticated-encryption block cipher mode for AES < 1334067542 105068 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which prevents tampering and replay attacks if used correctly (there is a mathematical proof of this) < 1334067552 19622 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :An implementation by someone else i take it? < 1334067576 647794 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's the reference implementation by Ted Krovetz < 1334067581 354318 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1334067581 520863 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/keithw/mosh/blob/master/src/crypto/ocb.cc < 1334067601 832822 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCB is not too widely used though, so I am a bit worried < 1334067635 919038 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think it's funny that "implemented by someone else" makes you feel better regardless of who that is ;) < 1334067671 107260 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :regarding "used correctly", a primary concern is that one must never use the same (key, nonce) pair more than once < 1334067697 634865 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nonce is a 63-bit counter initialized to zero at session start and incremented for each message sent < 1334067708 639689 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last bit distinguishes the two directions of communication < 1334067709 105660 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, i was thinking in the lines of a popular, reviewed-by-many implementation by someone else. :-) < 1334067738 821158 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I don't think ocb.c is that popular or well-reviewed < 1334067771 161934 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, OCB provides authentication and encryption in one go, whereas if we combined a simple block cipher mode like CTR with a separate HMAC, there are arguably more places to screw up < 1334067785 697619 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we can chat in #mosh also) < 1334067790 939115 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye < 1334068101 802869 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334068112 736507 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334068137 573351 :Ngevd|VeryTired!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334068452 649898 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334069249 451332 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asiekierka < 1334069346 84233 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334069394 193643 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BrainFunge2 and it seems like I was the only one who created a new esoteric programming language today. What's up with the rest of the community recently? < 1334069503 915248 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf2 ''!dlroW olleH''"("X'>)" < 1334069837 870207 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334070462 162257 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334070528 556541 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BrainFunge2 and it seems like I was the only one who created a new esoteric programming language today. What's up with the rest of the community recently? < 1334070532 617346 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf2 ''!dlroW olleH''"("X'>)" < 1334070659 342214 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334070679 692664 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BrainFunge2 and it seems like I was the only one who created a new esoteric programming language today. What's up with the rest of the community recently? < 1334070683 209772 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BrainFunge2 and it seems like I was the only one who created a new esoteric programming language today. What's up with the rest of the community recently? < 1334070687 272999 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf2 ''!dlroW olleH''"("X'>)" < 1334070690 114664 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf2 ''!dlroW olleH''"("X'>)" < 1334070713 374662 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm not part of the esolang community and have never done anything eso-langy.. i just want you to know i'm reading your posts :-D < 1334070746 338684 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the brainfunge2 wiki page looks nicely formatted < 1334071094 627710 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading the brainfunge2 page got me thinking though just now < 1334071646 917998 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1334072048 269363 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133527.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334072265 977690 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334072391 657656 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334072470 822513 :atrapado!~ttt@167.84.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1334072583 85499 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: Don't just join and say nothing. Say something or edit our sub-lime wiki, which has had few edits recently, at http://esolangs.org/ < 1334072664 489722 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133527.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX: hehhee ok ^^ < 1334072685 712303 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: Read the most recent log of #esoteric ( http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-04-10 ) or our sub-lime wiki's recent changes ( http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges ) if you are unsure what to say. < 1334072703 233600 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.226.20 NICK :MDude < 1334072711 762671 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1334072841 727865 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-219-5.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334072863 594246 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-159-234.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1334072944 616069 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334073009 544372 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Featured_languages has not been updated for at least two weeks now. < 1334073039 738959 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :The featured language has remained "///" for too long. < 1334073091 200748 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133527.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643] < 1334073109 166940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334073164 18266 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Featured_languages has not been updated for at least two weeks now. < 1334073167 24486 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :The featured language has remained "///" for too long. < 1334073176 882004 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the administrators waiting for? < 1334073181 922719 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523? < 1334073190 727672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX: we're only changing it once a month or so < 1334073210 696082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't enough of a supply of languages to change it more often than that, and it can often take around a month to do interesting things with an esolang < 1334073284 924415 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, does anyone think http://esolangs.org/wiki/BrainFunge2 is good enough to be featured (except for one thing that does not match the criteria: implementation is possible but this language is not implemented)? < 1334073372 460282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it isn't interesting < 1334073395 377279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are far too many 2D imperative languages < 1334073410 32218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(far too many 1D imperative languages too, btw) < 1334073621 601942 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not like being 2D and imperative disqualifies it, it merely doesn't qualify it. < 1334073684 121550 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1334073691 838423 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1334073976 857409 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:36:52: plenty of people appreciate FP and yet are annoyed by the people who think that incorporating crazy FP concepts is the only criterion for language goodness < 1334073977 220940 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1334073989 859813 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I get the feeling everything kmc says is a jab at me :P < 1334073999 831940 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU < 1334074009 590768 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spend all day plotting my next jab at elliott__ < 1334074021 408708 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly I did not have anyone in mind when I said that < 1334074113 625795 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should switch to a terminal that supports blurry fonts < 1334074287 186489 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wut, elliott FUCKING UNDERSCORE UNDERSCORE has messages? Or does lambdabot not distinguish? < 1334074305 110940 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : @messages < 1334074305 271015 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523 said 1m 22d 23h 13m 26s ago: I bet you haven't used this nick for a while :) < 1334074310 592046 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: Your new full name is now Elliott Fucking Underscore-Underscore, by the way. < 1334074315 129908 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so popular, all my nicks get messagse < 1334074318 594507 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*es < 1334074322 579063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: I messaged elliott-double-underscore quite a while ago just to see if the message would ever be received < 1334074328 937805 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1334074374 59907 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you misspelled my name! < 1334074387 588633 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does the "double" stand for "fucking underscore" < 1334074711 371762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a good esolang can take weeks or months to make < 1334074726 25816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. Underload took months, and Feather is probably going to take years < 1334074825 890969 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PRIVMSG #esoteric :.part < 1334074827 423004 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PART :#esoteric < 1334074831 620762 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334074910 471252 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX: you can use /cycle to part and rejoin quickly < 1334074910 967368 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1334074956 252650 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.83 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1334074976 775478 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PART :#esoteric < 1334074977 111666 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1334075071 721853 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX: I don't have something! < 1334075097 728595 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334075217 923312 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how old is mosh in debian testing? < 1334075330 149135 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX: I don't have something! < 1334075356 507839 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/mosh says 1.1 < 1334075359 572547 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a changelog: https://github.com/keithw/mosh/blob/master/ChangeLog < 1334075398 101336 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks; looks like * Fixes bug causing occasional missing/extra wraparound copy-and-paste. < 1334075398 261689 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the only thiing I might be missing out on < 1334075422 694164 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any advantages to mosh if my connection to the server has such low latency that I can't distinguish it from a local shell? < 1334075432 647071 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I keep accidentally typing commands into ssh rather than a local terminal) < 1334075445 434681 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read the web page < 1334075453 716009 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the hieroglyphics thing counts < 1334075456 603637 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too bothered about that though < 1334075552 539628 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have a low latency connection with high packet loss, but it sounds like you don't < 1334075561 406130 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also the roaming / suspend thing < 1334075574 445678 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ^C spew thing < 1334075580 158068 :NSQX!~CMEG@triband-mum-59.182.183.104.mtnl.net.in PART #esoteric :"NSQX has parted ("NSQX has parted ("NSQX has parted ("Error: Connection destroyed by peer")")")" < 1334075581 9000 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unlike SSH, mosh's UDP-based protocol handles packet loss gracefully, and sets the frame rate based on network conditions. Mosh doesn't fill up network buffers, so Control-C always works to halt a runaway process." < 1334075614 56573 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, the main advantage is that Mosh works better on a) bad connections, and b) changing between connections < 1334075623 154892 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh N-Squax. < 1334075624 976233 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why you gotta. < 1334075627 822979 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or suspending your laptop < 1334075632 448255 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh, it has dtach built in? < 1334075635 940783 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the whole session) < 1334075643 712888 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334075651 750133 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ^C spew thing annoys me, but I get problems with that locally, too < 1334075659 709211 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm not sure it's the same thing(?) < 1334075662 116725 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With Mosh, you can put your laptop to sleep and wake it up later, keeping your connection intact. If your Internet connection drops, Mosh will warn you — but the connection resumes when network service comes back." < 1334075672 870250 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were a lot of words on the page ok :( < 1334075688 134616 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm lazy so i quote them instead of explaining ;P < 1334075696 660610 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to explicitly suspend it and restart mosh later? < 1334075699 332659 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. have it save its state < 1334075701 199592 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really the same as screen/tmux detach (you can of course use mosh together with screen/tmux) < 1334075707 959957 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, use screen/tmux for that < 1334075722 187726 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1334075724 85061 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I use dtach :p) < 1334075732 775034 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know that one, but ok < 1334075777 750081 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just does detaching rather than tiling < 1334075797 200082 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this website triggers that annoying font problem :( < 1334075808 335987 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where text overlaps with other text but fixes itself if I change the font size up and down again < 1334075848 597613 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh doesn't support detaching and reattaching sessions at all < 1334075874 529343 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it supports a) arbitrarily long periods of total packet loss, and b) client suddenly has a different IP < 1334075883 560121 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: those are the same thing! < 1334075902 223774 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1334075913 440508 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :modulo local state, which can be stored on disk (I don't care about reattaching from another machine < 1334075914 5096 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1334075928 647726 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, the AUR package is maintained by the trivium author < 1334075941 513959 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a mosh-client / mosh-server pair, and the client dies uncleanly (say because the machine dies) < 1334075946 19514 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no way to reattach to that mosh-server < 1334075956 994283 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not inconceivable we'd add one < 1334075966 315810 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I don't care about unclean client dying either < 1334075969 745677 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1334075982 827037 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my use for re-attaching is just starting a long-running process on the server and being able to check on it without having to keep a terminal open < 1334076009 70352 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think mosh by itself won't do that for you < 1334076026 773201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Buy a Kinect and create the world's first interpretive dance programming language. < 1334076047 106433 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, but it could if it could store its local state and reload it later (which of course might be non-trivial) < 1334076048 442628 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you close the local terminal running mosh-client, it will shut down the client and therefore the whole session < 1334076053 360848 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1334076144 640151 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Targets (2): boost-libs-1.49.0-1.1 boost-1.49.0-1.1 < 1334076144 800571 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Total Download Size: 9.30 MiB < 1334076144 800753 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Total Installed Size: 149.80 MiB < 1334076146 72084 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta love boost < 1334076164 210219 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1334076169 377969 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're only using a small amount of boost < 1334076174 449198 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i have a patch which removes it entirely < 1334076186 394728 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: my understanding is that you're recommended to distrbute the parts of boost you use with your source < 1334076188 759973 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously) < 1334076196 609320 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which avoids that kind of dependency :P < 1334076268 990062 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1334076270 522355 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't wanna < 1334076314 113201 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, mosh works < 1334076323 810281 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it clears the screen as soon as i start a connection :( < 1334076348 786962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1334076356 997949 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do not like this behavior? < 1334076363 133033 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133527.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334076376 923018 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, though probably only because I'm used to ssh not doing that < 1334076390 66496 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1334076411 63619 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good rule of thumb is to ignore all complaints i make for the first two days < 1334076457 658839 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the fact that less seems to scroll through large amounts of text faster placebo? < 1334076511 882133 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, less uses bold in mosh < 1334076513 96886 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1334076514 905494 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by less i mean top < 1334076559 164730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: less scrolls through large amounts of text faster per line than small amounts of text < 1334076567 100519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it doesn't have to redraw the screen every line < 1334076613 779050 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was using ^D/^U, so it's not that < 1334076620 171680 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it definitely feels like it's lagging less than ssh doing that < 1334076648 5552 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Watchlist editing has been improved so that broken or invalid titles now." I... see < 1334076704 430054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We have taken steps to avoid a repeat of the situation where half the" < 1334076720 522846 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1334077064 817313 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it possible to use mosh locally without authentication? < 1334077073 669760 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ^C spam stuff and garbage-display prevention sound useful < 1334077282 438886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :control-C spam? < 1334077302 220957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the idea when you're trying to interrupt a particular process in the instant it happens to be grabbing the terminal? < 1334077316 334097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably might be better to have a key to SIGINT both the foreground process and its parent < 1334077612 315590 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "Mosh doesn't fill up network buffers, so Control-C always works to halt a runaway process." < 1334077616 217083 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what that means though < 1334077638 250817 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is [etc.] or [etc.] correct? < 1334077639 649731 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the former < 1334077690 145155 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__, not without authentication, but you can set up a mosh session by transports other than ssh < 1334077694 135263 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the "copy and paste" transport < 1334077713 23193 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mosh.mit.edu/#faq "Q: How do I run the mosh client and server separately?" < 1334077722 922794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: I prefer the former, but am not sure about correctness < 1334077750 406264 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : is the fact that less seems to scroll through large amounts of text faster placebo? < 1334077751 420931 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1334077767 876400 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh sends every byte in order; mosh just tries to update the client to the server's latest state < 1334077775 538117 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1334077783 539121 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the screens aren't very alike, though < 1334077796 468416 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a packet is dropped in transit, and the server-side state has changed since the packet was sent, mosh won't retransmit that stale state < 1334077798 699339 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it do compression, fwiw? < 1334077813 60703 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really closer to a video streaming protocol than a reliable octet stream protocol :) < 1334077831 629127 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, zlib < 1334077839 678519 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that copy-and-paste transport could work; seems like you could easily write a script to do it and use that as your shell < 1334077844 126896 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not as your shell < 1334077848 564577 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the shell your terminal uses < 1334077856 243615 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want this for the ^C thing or? < 1334077873 696162 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's a network-related feature only < 1334077884 474591 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I actually run into the messed-up-terminal thing every year or so :p < 1334077889 292248 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really rushing to do it < 1334077909 846606 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just seems like it could be worthwhile if it's strictly better at being a terminal than plain urxvt is < 1334077920 75697 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I understand what the buffer thing means now < 1334077927 741101 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :keys get sent immediately, rather than waiting for a network buffer < 1334077936 729545 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I skipped over "network" in "network buffer" the first two times i read it < 1334077944 188967 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly it should be in 72pt red impact and blink < 1334078012 591401 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what you said is correct either < 1334078027 296234 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is just that mosh has an estimate of the network throughput, and will only send at that rate < 1334078038 39658 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it won't fill buffers along the way < 1334078047 826308 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's common for e.g. home cable modems to have huge buffers) < 1334078061 20285 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1334078074 951137 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way when you send a ^C, you don't have to wait for all the garbage ahead of it < 1334078092 186133 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :estimating throughput is something TCP is supposed to do as well < 1334078106 652750 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not very good and also people keep fucking with it in various ways < 1334078118 129577 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KeithW's actual PhD research is on a new approach to TCP flow control < 1334078137 712930 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the endpoints have an explicit network model, and an explicit utility function, and act as bayesian optimizers wrt these < 1334078173 465101 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if " (it's common for e.g. home cable modems to have huge buffers)" is what bufferbloat is < 1334078182 405869 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about networking < 1334078240 923027 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what bufferbloat is < 1334078263 761285 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can sometimes improve your connection dramatically by throttling the input to the cable modem to be just below its speed < 1334078333 419215 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a common scenario is trying to use ssh while downloading a file < 1334078342 599888 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this apply to non-cable modems? < 1334078346 448284 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the file fills up the buffer, ssh latency goes way up, TCP flow control on SSH starts to make bad decisions < 1334078368 502198 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's enough bandwidth for the file xfer, then there's enough for file xfer plus a tiny bit for ssh < 1334078372 930713 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not being allocated effectively < 1334078393 241157 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about buffer sizes on other devices < 1334078394 625285 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect so < 1334078412 924252 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding buffering/caching haphazardly is pretty much the #1 problem solving strategy in CS < 1334078455 632727 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is on ADSL < 1334078579 595141 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADSL or... LSD-A? < 1334078683 742495 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the french acronym? < 1334078689 159714 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's our biggest national secret that all our internet lines are secretly being used to traffic... DRUG. < 1334078693 704772 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1334078695 757900 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*S < 1334078710 963769 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner++ < 1334078823 317717 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was, then the real acronym would be ASDL instead, if UTC is anything to go by < 1334078846 835674 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rly glad we didn't end up calling it CUT or TUC though < 1334078853 165354 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't UTC a compromise in that it was wrong in both languages? < 1334078869 163627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: indeed < 1334078989 866817 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1334079296 434781 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And it looks like Haskell sets its sockets to non-blocking mode by default. So if you try to read from one when there is no data, or try to write to one when its buffer is full, you will fail with EAGAIN. < 1334079296 635649 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figure out how to change the sockets to blocking mode, and I bet you will solve your problem." < 1334079305 407667 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like an astonishingly bad idea wrt the IO manager < 1334079675 130654 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, shouldn't the IO manager be simulating blocking I/O for you? < 1334079696 518291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334079697 410834 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is someone sharing sockets between haskell and C code? < 1334079793 920952 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1334080219 939076 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: ping < 1334080234 595163 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: ? < 1334080305 567791 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: What's that file-usage thing you used on codu < 1334080322 315907 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh ... wut? < 1334080327 844395 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean disk space usage? < 1334080333 727336 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1334080336 345728 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ncdu < 1334080338 350513 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1334081313 851433 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently on solaris, environment variables of running processes are world readable < 1334081318 429124 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it, sun < 1334081356 768944 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: haha, awesome < 1334081375 345780 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll only be env variables set at run-time, though [standard comment about how amazed i am that environment variables DON'T REALLY EXIST] < 1334081383 36660 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm set at exec-time that is < 1334081388 635061 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1334081401 40403 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a problem for Mosh because we put the AES session key in an environment variable for mosh-client < 1334081405 898851 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we don't claim to support Solaris < 1334081416 20425 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think a warning in README and the website is called for, anyway < 1334081428 658824 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Linux and OS X, env vars are only readable by the same user < 1334081440 744064 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's wrong with just taking it as an option < 1334081441 739628 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think FreeBSD as well but haven't checked < 1334081451 780366 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :command lines generally *are* world-readable < 1334081452 838979 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh those are world-visible < 1334081458 754224 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can modify them though < 1334081463 295471 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a race condition < 1334081465 719477 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1334081471 279084 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :take it as a line on stdin? < 1334081486 360212 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah maybe < 1334081497 110346 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be more convenient for copy-pasting too since you can just select the whole line :p < 1334081780 162978 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334081889 130960 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334081988 802362 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334082159 339557 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1334082173 799224 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net NICK :Mathnerd314 < 1334082228 348519 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.83 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334082242 999099 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334082366 612137 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: help me think of a name that translates to unix account name "root" with as many different formats as possible < 1334082382 296460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: what exactly do you mean by that? < 1334082383 14673 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Root O* O* T* seems like a decent start < 1334082412 48679 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a name that will cause as many organisations as possible to want to assign me the Unix username "root" per policy < 1334082421 443308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, I see < 1334082430 382313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Root Root", I guess < 1334082441 962728 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Root O* O* T* breaks and and < 1334082444 866682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you'd be rroot under several patterns then < 1334082450 873312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also breaks < 1334082451 34363 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nope, that's rroot or rootr < 1334082458 820572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1334082465 30436 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Root O* O* T*, I was going for whatever produced "ais" < 1334082474 96947 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as "first name", which I guess is uncommon in large organisations < 1334082485 599925 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*<> < 1334082498 449785 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet they only use one middle name, anyway < 1334082501 939787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the university of birmingham naming scheme that produced ais523 would make that rot123 or whatever, it only takes one middle name < 1334082511 833843 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :where I work, root root would get either rroot or rootr < 1334082535 678540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, requires at least one middle name, they use X as a placeholder if there isn't one < 1334082554 367410 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if only I was the thirteenth rot < 1334082557 235168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure which order the initials come in for family-name-first name patterns < 1334082565 310688 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :exh < 1334082569 985753 :exh!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify . < 1334082570 695325 :exh!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1334082576 830777 :exh!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott__ < 1334082577 55144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot the digits! < 1334082588 3551 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do they use digits if you're the only one? < 1334082592 839935 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt there's another exh at birmingham < 1334082593 127177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1334082595 447239 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1334082600 344171 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exh1" is ugly < 1334082600 723899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there almost certainly is < 1334082602 16048 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well so is exh < 1334082617 161263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are over a million people who have been named < 1334082634 299336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certainly, at least one had forename starting e, surname starting h, no middle name < 1334082661 520542 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how old is your account system? < 1334082671 683174 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really have over a million Unix accounts? < 1334082698 854466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're mostly Active Directory < 1334082720 391881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, they're deleted after 4 years, so it's over a million that have existed at any point in time < 1334082726 610260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not over a million simultaneously < 1334082729 34239 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334082737 130192 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they reserve previously-used names? < 1334082764 269217 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and is that after four years of no use, or four years full stop?) < 1334082766 172254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; I know they have to be reserved for at least two years, and it'd make sense to reserve them longer < 1334082775 60774 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:18:09 < elliott__> hi monqy < 1334082777 713993 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you read the logs < 1334082778 967824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine if someone else got ais523@bham.ac.uk < 1334082785 742986 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically the parts with nsqx < 1334082788 328780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd get so many irrelevant messages… < 1334082790 937701 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I promised him I'd make you read that! < 1334082812 531843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's after four years altogether, except that if you're still using it for university-related purposes, it's deleted a year after you stop instead < 1334082823 689131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had ais523@bham.ac.uk for around 7 years by now < 1334082828 337642 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes, NSQX helpfully linked me to them < 1334082848 713420 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they shouldn't delete accounts :( < 1334082850 360006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's actually a redirect nowadays (I won't mention what it's a redirect to, as the spambots haven't found it yet), and I forge it as the from address when I send < 1334082912 281146 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a Java programmer gain much from learning about monads? (self.haskell) < 1334082928 290150 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you posting this to /r/haskell!!! < 1334082932 125046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd gain a bit, but not much < 1334082963 154596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's because Haskellers have been forced into the position of Internet Monad Consultants < 1334083018 253163 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: at least we can help you turn your international network of international networks into just an international network < 1334083030 587865 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and turn your single node into an international network < 1334083053 926387 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and help you transform an international network for one purpose into an international network for another, if you can tell us how to turn a node for one purpose into a node for another purpose < 1334083118 331232 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone? Come on. < 1334083151 896089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone what? < 1334083156 264863 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laugh, dammit! < 1334083181 880788 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0E56F.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1334083187 747949 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: COMEO N < 1334083189 722462 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ON < 1334083191 27083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are now the international network monad? < 1334083223 21370 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consultants. < 1334083257 599333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we need a Consultant monad < 1334083273 765924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, given that consulting things is almost a sensible thing for a monad to do, it could almost be useful < 1334083325 501468 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Come on, laugh. :( < 1334083361 210112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it isn't funny < 1334083416 485655 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't care! < 1334083431 767838 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow nsqx really spammed up the logs there < 1334083468 741858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, monqy is being unusually lucid, it must be a very serious situation < 1334083485 974856 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy is always lucid, people just don't usually realise it < 1334083499 714997 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that was before he got corrupted by the hi brigade :( < 1334083581 870485 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i agree that there is (snicker) a...."cabal" of mods here who seem to want to whitewash haskell's shortcomings" < 1334083585 791100 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep diggin', tr0lltherapy. < 1334083603 300630 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since when did nsqx become official channel greater? < 1334083613 245332 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :greater < 1334083624 744739 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when is he < 1334083627 568734 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.226.20 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1334083630 812325 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greeter < 1334083644 695813 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't just join and say nothing." some greeting < 1334083663 95822 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I'm just bothered by greeting someone without even making sure they know it's the right kind of esoteric < 1334083675 803561 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, which kind of esoteric < 1334083699 249520 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude KingOfKarlsruhe idles here constantly < 1334083724 105656 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-120-5.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334083726 287316 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1334083735 616728 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION crawls into a hole < 1334083797 797051 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-228-146.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1334083799 794944 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1334083800 980086 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hole < 1334083806 411 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oops help i can't stop < 1334083811 705654 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like drugs < 1334083832 890737 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't < 1334083833 958918 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just say no < 1334083858 225456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is (Cofree Maybe) like non-empty list? < 1334083870 70973 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1334083880 481772 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133527.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: what should i say? < 1334083989 337963 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: You don't have to say anything. < 1334084030 383512 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1334084084 777024 :Case1!~Dr._Danee@adsl-98-82-7-89.jax.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334084085 954818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334084433 579230 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334084441 548913 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1334084452 766656 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :top of the morning < 1334084481 620708 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... 8 PM < 1334084482 244202 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-158-119.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334084486 685827 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! There will be no more relases of Linux 2.4 < 1334084487 48572 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ v < 1334084575 964372 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-120-5.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1334084872 681887 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I have no idea why this shocks you. < 1334084895 480364 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.6 came out in 2003. 3 came out in 2011. < 1334084913 301024 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been updated for over 11 years < 1334084921 577663 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but it's also two major versions old and has been out-of-date for 9 years :P < 1334084937 922793 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I admit, it would be funny if they maintained 2.4 forever. < 1334084980 592822 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know which version of Linux kernel I'm using atm < 1334084983 776733 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1334084987 165775 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on Windows < 1334085003 567804 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's linux 1.4 < 1334085005 632853 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1334085069 805226 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe soneone starts supporting linux 2.4 same way as libc4 < 1334085101 206298 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: That guy is the only guy crazy and/or stupidly stubborn enough to do that, and he's on 2.0.28 :P < 1334085131 741697 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? That's just insane < 1334085188 657838 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...my screen just beeped < 1334085199 445209 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Well, his distro was last updated in 2002... and was intended to be ~retro~ even then. < 1334085394 92507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case we have something, like LogicT, but instead there is also a comonad included (forall r. (a -> w (m r) -> m r) -> w (m r) -> m r) It is still a codensity monad too < 1334085400 752967 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1334085602 10303 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1334085676 867817 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334085797 846906 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334085803 715528 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net NICK :Mathnerd314 < 1334085815 570887 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1334086408 5404 :augur_!~augur@206.196.184.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334086444 602234 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.83 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334087068 132822 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db434ba.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1334087167 560269 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334087207 994883 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334087359 185386 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I don't know which version of Linux kernel I'm using atm Hang on I'm on Windows < 1334087429 610346 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo... < 1334087430 213782 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :826) I don't know which version of Linux kernel I'm using atm Hang on I'm on Windows < 1334087443 623533 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: He just needed that nudge. < 1334087562 682644 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1334087562 843199 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1334087606 742297 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f616.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334087612 280811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1334087702 631056 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-128-12.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334087706 52729 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1334087707 92723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: far far = 50 million light years < 1334087718 876987 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1334087723 910365 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats sqrt(50 million light years) < 1334087739 415079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _was_ speaking about M87 or whatever it was. < 1334087758 367424 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were talking about jedis < 1334087768 891253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't bring up those < 1334087797 796851 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-158-119.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1334087802 992160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will be the square root of a unit of distance? < 1334087816 274900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20 asked if M87 was the galaxy of the jedis. < 1334087911 532492 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I guess it will be something with the unit distance^½, something that you can square to get a distance < 1334087931 904149 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's sqrt(distance) :( < 1334087933 107047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I know that... it isn't what I meant by the question < 1334087943 391121 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: I don't know! < 1334087972 139580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: the unit for dimension 1/2 hausdorff measure, at least < 1334088020 297176 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/XDDoQ.jpg this is the best notice i have ever seen < 1334088056 451038 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good notice < 1334088058 392869 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334088077 905837 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I had a goose. :-( < 1334088120 436002 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish you WERE a goose. < 1334088152 890494 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the feeling something should be done about people who check in lines with trailing whitespace. < 1334088173 868971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes; what should be done is, notify them. < 1334088182 765313 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "git diff" with colouring makes them all horrible and red. < 1334088186 120532 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I use. < 1334088190 56723 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To catch my own mistakes. < 1334088194 16204 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they don't do that. :( < 1334088216 794991 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I was thinking along the lines of something lingering with boiling oil in it. < 1334088364 9113 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are so beautiful as a collective irc entity < 1334088483 499478 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: they might have forgotten to turn on colored diffs, if that isn't the default < 1334088489 52356 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know that there is (snicker) a...."cabal" of mods here who seem to want to whitewash haskell's shortcomings? < 1334088633 275806 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334088677 236294 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd don't become exoskeletal :( < 1334088694 144317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying he looks buggy? < 1334088729 38235 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a poor connection rather than a bug < 1334088742 644930 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hes just < 1334088743 489398 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd < 1334088751 837805 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats v. punny tahnk you < 1334088755 401878 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a... sub-lime pun < 1334088761 547636 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334088777 92852 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT PUN WAS WORSE THAN A LIME. SEE WHAT I DID THERE? < 1334088778 60557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you. although you'd think gregor would be more in danger < 1334088785 788494 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: Today I need to do things again. < 1334088816 815962 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't. < 1334088825 558676 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1334088919 457798 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know that there is (snicker) a...."cabal" of mods here who seem to want to whitewash haskell's shortcomings? < 1334088944 304000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334088960 120520 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1334088974 224617 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if shachaf knows that there is (snicker) a...."cabal" of mods here who seem to want to whitewash haskell's shortcomings? < 1334088987 186668 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*.1 < 1334088988 716575 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*. < 1334088992 689327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: darn you're good < 1334089025 955721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also hi elliott__ and olsner < 1334089027 999595 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-219-5.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1334089032 303260 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-255-162.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334089042 294895 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1334089072 823815 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks oerjan. thoerjan < 1334089088 166287 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tharblejen < 1334089096 733101 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thaggry < 1334089100 752689 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thexoskeleton < 1334089114 828045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :theodicy < 1334089121 102495 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1334089151 686797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evning olsner < 1334089172 136070 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is oerjan calling me an iodicy? :( < 1334089188 313061 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why is oerjan hiing everybody? < 1334089195 153680 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott__ < 1334089349 250812 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye olsner < 1334089844 452762 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334089850 121480 :augur_!~augur@206.196.184.83 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334089853 369562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I saw a Finnair plane today In a smoking rubble? Close. Heathrow Airport < 1334089870 645671 :Case1!~Dr._Danee@adsl-98-82-7-89.jax.bellsouth.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1334089871 633041 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :827) I saw a Finnair plane today In a smoking rubble? Close. Heathrow Airport < 1334090424 733334 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: I don't know that. < 1334090779 319514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan__ < 1334090785 615914 :oerjan__!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1334090789 831390 :oerjan__!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan < 1334090797 202661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels _so_ left out < 1334090843 874216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:18:31: hmm, a good esolang can take weeks or months to make < 1334090844 35203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:18:46: e.g. Underload took months, and Feather is probably going to take years < 1334090852 195104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh /// probably didn't take too long :P < 1334090897 825255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:12:54: ais523: you misspelled my name! < 1334090897 986257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:13:07: or does the "double" stand for "fucking underscore" < 1334090909 541136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, ais523 is simply unable to say "fucking" < 1334091538 52038 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1334091556 244069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE THOUGHT WE'D LOST YOU < 1334092265 60185 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1334092693 269154 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334092727 847113 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334092791 151378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: Please tell me later < 1334092801 105786 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334092838 255952 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.83 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334093358 420350 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :toi took 5 minutes and it's the best. < 1334093362 664963 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that, society < 1334093499 977994 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/texts-from-hillary-clinton_n_1415551.html < 1334093519 609492 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if only we could hear from her regarding whether the accusations she insulted Agora Nomic are true or not. < 1334093626 101655 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huffingtonpost.com < 1334093759 811338 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it's not like I'm taking medical advice from there < 1334093797 856712 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i admit the fact that hillary clinton has made a submission to a joke tumblr is pretty hilarious < 1334093802 225573 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to live long and a good life, by the huffing ton post dot com < 1334093812 410496 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334093822 976674 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334093831 265683 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i huff a ton < 1334093837 490784 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i post it < 1334093840 964932 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: drat I can't think of a good greeting uhh < 1334093842 770620 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: don't give in < 1334093844 17368 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't give in < 1334093845 665725 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay < 1334093846 633951 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhhh < 1334093851 656365 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I know a good greeting. < 1334093855 34219 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!! < 1334093856 987226 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It starts with "hi" < 1334093857 314552 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1334093862 603514 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it ends with "hi". < 1334093869 660288 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's 100% overlap < 1334093889 764710 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf :( < 1334093895 674406 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for maximal greeting efficiency, I presume < 1334093909 994464 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sure wish I knew your wonder greeting! < 1334093946 650766 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!! < 1334093951 287452 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhhh < 1334093981 435330 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1334093982 333496 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott__ is Tue Apr 10 22:40:10 < 1334093984 723010 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy apr 10 < 1334094029 895862 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: happy april 10 < 1334094076 234004 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: happy april < 1334094082 765112 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sad april < 1334094087 209233 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : :( < 1334094112 461646 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha i think tr0lltherapy downvoted me < 1334094137 207259 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334094161 878053 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is tr0lltherapy a tr0ll < 1334094176 317459 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he's a troll therapist < 1334094208 205254 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1334094209 794989 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it < 1334094210 499490 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334094212 88482 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy hi < 1334094213 814284 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnnnnnnnn < 1334094214 836985 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1334094227 828842 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your royal hiness, monqy < 1334094231 31325 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95C36.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334094234 769025 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1334094236 261344 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it monqy < 1334094246 259 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: kick monqy, this is an intervention, it's for his own good < 1334094246 857503 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, "your royal hiness" merits a "hi". < 1334094251 741407 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: QUICK!!! < 1334094259 387152 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy hi... < 1334094261 342314 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's ok shhh < 1334094263 479764 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1334094264 79404 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: we're here < 1334094264 565606 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for you < 1334094266 510675 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhhh < 1334094267 824956 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be okay < 1334094272 949749 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or kick shachaf i guess < 1334094279 237985 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Just say a sentence that contains "hi". < 1334094281 713028 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "hi there" < 1334094283 484484 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there monqy < 1334094288 24710 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1334094295 855356 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: quick put "hi" into another word < 1334094306 431794 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "boy shachaf must be high if he thinks i'm going to say that word" < 1334094311 984039 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of any good words! < 1334094314 934137 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i helped < 1334094324 413232 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1334094325 542368 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: I'm just hi < 1334094326 248417 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334094326 797211 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/me hides" < 1334094330 229520 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1334094331 61756 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMETHING < 1334094334 190656 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi de monqy < 1334094336 616281 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: something < 1334094345 557437 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy++ < 1334094355 683910 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy++ , yes. < 1334094361 793596 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334094368 326115 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Now say "somet hi ng" < 1334094379 335645 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do this (that) < 1334094383 510471 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one won't hurt. < 1334094404 966343 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no don't < 1334094406 302333 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slhippery slope < 1334094409 815942 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're at BAD influence!!! < 1334094413 294108 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no you're slipping stop < 1334094415 165196 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: /ignore shachaf < 1334094417 32188 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1334094423 579707 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Good, now you're injecting "hi"s ungrammatically. < 1334094429 402278 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one more step < 1334094436 675197 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1334094438 135244 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh < 1334094454 459758 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Can you say "hii"? < 1334094458 633834 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1334094469 453983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: try "shalom", that should freak shachaf out < 1334094480 664444 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: HOW CAN YOU JUST STAND BY AND WATCH THIS HAPPEN < 1334094487 211169 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1334094487 439549 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least +q shachaf or something < 1334094488 656241 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott__ < 1334094491 128366 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334094491 832852 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334094494 543587 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shalom < 1334094501 932546 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you freaked out < 1334094508 950635 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Not good enough. < 1334094521 329370 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you'll never be good enough... Unless you say hi. < 1334094523 624487 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider that. < 1334094532 146743 :Mathnerd314_!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1334094535 488837 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1334094538 810977 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1334094557 967540 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What have you become, monqy? < 1334094563 930410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hei hei < 1334094565 203323 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You used to say hi. < 1334094575 443912 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Can you manage a "hej"? < 1334094584 804133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao < 1334094621 893774 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Congratulations! < 1334094631 593272 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've withstood The Ultimate Hi Challenge. < 1334094638 794653 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1334094639 194117 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no stop he's tricking you < 1334094640 763426 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You Win! < 1334094647 832440 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game is over now. < 1334094650 823998 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: noooo < 1334094656 127884 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to relax. < 1334094660 525466 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im relax < 1334094662 304760 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no! < 1334094664 233552 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no relaxing < 1334094666 239302 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware!!! < 1334094671 570822 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im unrelax < 1334094673 33700 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do a relaxing thing. < 1334094683 477310 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1334094684 799763 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to relax by writing poems. < 1334094688 449392 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO! < 1334094690 181888 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no poems monqy < 1334094692 448491 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be okay < 1334094696 409051 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to write anything < 1334094698 299887 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you write a poem, monqy? < 1334094718 225952 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poetry is for people who say "hi" < 1334094727 212501 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a big kid now < 1334094728 211342 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hi < 1334094731 157990 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy =~ \bhi\b < 1334094731 727384 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : - a poem < 1334094741 25573 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy you're a good lad < 1334094761 397117 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1334094843 462257 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Here's a poem: http://poemsbyshelsilverstein.blogspot.com/2009/01/poem-by-shel-silverstein-pg-127.html < 1334094854 931936 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :By Shel Silverstein. < 1334094865 332751 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: Do they have Shel Silverstein in Hexham? < 1334094872 509481 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a friendly monster < 1334094919 152278 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you friendly, monqy? < 1334094931 243471 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1334094943 880633 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show the channel how friendly you are. < 1334094947 979487 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1334094948 249665 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!! < 1334094950 704283 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it < 1334094964 407400 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I buy them flowers < 1334094966 185797 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that friendly < 1334094974 479531 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Do what the hi monster would do. < 1334094979 458685 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!! < 1334094984 554720 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hi monster is known for never saying hi < 1334094987 414459 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I go through the mist < 1334094990 184713 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I run free < 1334094992 721281 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1334094993 779535 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I have a tail < 1334094996 958275 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1334094999 681063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : no hi <-- oh dear. oh dear oh dear oh dear. < 1334095008 478759 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-163-159.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1334095009 6950 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no it's okay < 1334095010 926637 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use-mention distinction < 1334095011 560423 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hi monster is known for saying hi to *everyone*. < 1334095015 811906 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good to talk about your past addictions < 1334095018 574181 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is hi anonymous < 1334095038 168413 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first thing you say in hi anonymous is... < 1334095043 540240 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1334095044 805172 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi, my name is monqy. hi. < 1334095045 173794 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you say < 1334095045 508727 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1334095047 122806 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good morning" < 1334095048 74332 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1334095049 971956 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good afternoon" < 1334095050 346435 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1334095051 697960 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi" < 1334095051 858875 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good evening" < 1334095052 330803 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1334095057 667903 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's the middle of the night why haven't i slept" < 1334095092 740026 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can say one word which means all of those and more. < 1334095115 383044 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it mean < 1334095116 957881 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything < 1334095123 131887 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's "hello" < 1334095125 110112 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello is okay < 1334095162 35291 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hello is so many letters < 1334095174 793748 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo not you too < 1334095179 665513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you can use "yo" < 1334095185 261899 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hello" is on the road to "hell" < 1334095190 137636 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yo < 1334095190 437232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't have too many letters < 1334095192 880283 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yo < 1334095193 733553 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi" is on the road to "hi heaven" < 1334095194 717349 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yo < 1334095199 61995 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: yo < 1334095206 92414 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yo! < 1334095206 252941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno about this < 1334095207 507412 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but < 1334095209 733147 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have the right feeling < 1334095210 741668 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't say yo too much < 1334095221 438820 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just doesn't feel right < 1334095226 182181 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :once an addict always an addict (unless you try really hard and don't give in to peer pressure) < 1334095230 161626 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't have a Yo-God God Detector < 1334095232 66526 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhh monqy you don't need that kind of bad influence in your life < 1334095236 495229 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't give in to beer pressure! < 1334095238 749257 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhh < 1334095247 286600 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: elliott__ suggets in /msg that I should stop tempting you. < 1334095256 798456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yo-gsothot? < 1334095257 900834 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey < 1334095263 449364 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, shachaf asked. < 1334095269 702248 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just told him what he already knew. < 1334095298 306211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+h < 1334095315 317279 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My question is answered and problem solved by someone that does not even know Haskell, with surgical precision! Anyway the link above now contains a working splice implementation that will find its way to Hackage after polish up." < 1334095316 661406 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WAS WRONG < 1334095324 460332 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__, linky? < 1334095327 848247 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/s1kcd/need_help_implementing_zero_kerneluser_space_copy/ < 1334095384 521469 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-163-159.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1334095405 8497 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: After saying "yo" you have to say "dawg". < 1334095436 912937 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can do that < 1334095445 931913 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly if that's what it comes to < 1334095448 901439 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather just say hi < 1334095453 765151 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1334095462 57526 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You gotta choose. < 1334095462 975198 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems more like a Linux question than a Haskell question < 1334095473 709815 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yo dawg" is many times more potent than "hi". < 1334095511 860087 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo dawg, I herd you like to greet so I put a greet in your greet so you can greet while you greet. hhii < 1334095518 243464 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone kick sgeo < 1334095521 203455 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^badly done < 1334095523 633861 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1334095533 477053 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-163-159.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1334095545 558365 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have said "sgeo: hi" but I'm over that < 1334095547 137300 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a new man < 1334095549 38100 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new monqy < 1334095566 68205 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Say "sgeo: yo dawg" < 1334095569 681125 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1334095575 416789 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeyo dawg < 1334095583 831252 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone kick shachaf < 1334095590 897842 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he's suffering < 1334095600 973346 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf++ < 1334095605 978646 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo-- < 1334095606 150365 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incf shachef) < 1334095619 32235 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf-- < 1334095620 335199 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf-- < 1334095623 247865 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no stop < 1334095623 408126 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: The right answer is to use the I/O manager for non-blocking sockets? < 1334095628 198542 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: :-( < 1334095630 233880 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The right answer is what bos said. < 1334095631 495978 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__++ < 1334095633 319108 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are precious karma points. < 1334095644 205796 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esp. since EAGAIN can happen on blocking sockets too. < 1334095645 78572 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incf shachef 5) < 1334095647 635293 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133527.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643] < 1334095650 81406 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma shachaf < 1334095650 411498 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf has a karma of 13 < 1334095653 521353 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have enough < 1334095657 150028 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karm elliott < 1334095657 310556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: karma karma+ karma- karma-all < 1334095659 621249 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma elliott < 1334095659 781197 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has a karma of 16 < 1334095665 442946 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott-- < 1334095667 385285 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott-- < 1334095667 919854 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma elliott__ < 1334095668 443811 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__ has a karma of 1 < 1334095684 203172 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma hi < 1334095684 603325 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi has a karma of 2 < 1334095684 763981 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma Sgeo < 1334095685 131247 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 0 < 1334095686 876076 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi-- < 1334095687 210056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi-- < 1334095693 998560 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, monqy said it! < 1334095717 535020 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's trying to say it! < 1334095719 648746 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's trying! < 1334095733 242752 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what -- what am I -- hi -- hi monqy!" < 1334095783 808429 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott++ < 1334095788 394741 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott++ # not heartless < 1334095872 498974 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma elliott < 1334095872 951575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has a karma of 16 < 1334095880 105345 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1334095904 183209 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma lambdabot < 1334095904 382792 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has a karma of 6 < 1334095906 182635 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot++ < 1334095907 67180 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma lambdabot < 1334095907 227949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has a karma of 7 < 1334095909 370038 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1334095921 990238 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If monqy decremented me once and I now have karma of 0, I must have had karma of one at some point < 1334095925 732682 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION happies < 1334095935 517555 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma lwall < 1334095935 677801 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lwall has a karma of 0 < 1334095950 794845 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone reset lambdabot? < 1334095959 972898 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm thinking of preflex. < 1334095970 900334 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma C < 1334095971 351179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C has a karma of 0 < 1334095972 405161 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: Why did you decrement my karma. :-( < 1334096039 983852 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot once had karma 50+ < 1334096046 507352 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*50+ karma < 1334096069 295714 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in the top 10 karmahavers in lambdabot's database. < 1334096075 302261 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma c/c < 1334096075 477641 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c/c has a karma of 80 < 1334096080 601549 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "hi monqy" < 1334096081 502240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi monqy < 1334096128 554387 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma c++ < 1334096128 943089 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ has a karma of -2 < 1334096150 30545 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma c < 1334096153 725215 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c has a karma of 0 < 1334096156 163830 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: lambdabot has an override < 1334096162 709042 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : karma c < 1334096162 869731 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : c: 186510 < 1334096168 618239 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For just c? < 1334096171 779366 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1334096174 629428 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WRONG < 1334096176 954998 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma "C < 1334096177 454690 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"C has a karma of 15 < 1334096178 520796 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma notepad < 1334096178 681328 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad has a karma of 16 < 1334096181 871000 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad++ < 1334096182 583376 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma notepad < 1334096182 752371 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad has a karma of 16 < 1334096186 662946 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame < 1334096188 28331 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- notepad < 1334096188 411549 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad's karma lowered to 15. < 1334096189 125516 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- notepad < 1334096189 645291 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad's karma lowered to 14. < 1334096189 995601 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- notepad < 1334096190 527899 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad's karma lowered to 13. < 1334096190 803715 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- notepad < 1334096191 236189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad's karma lowered to 12. < 1334096191 621069 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- notepad < 1334096192 117583 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad's karma lowered to 11. < 1334096192 420339 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- notepad < 1334096192 820549 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad's karma lowered to 10. < 1334096193 244081 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- notepad < 1334096193 741738 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad's karma lowered to 9. < 1334096194 28537 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- notepad < 1334096194 409326 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad's karma lowered to 8. < 1334096199 728915 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ notepad < 1334096200 249898 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad's karma raised to 9. < 1334096200 637087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest peacefully, notepad's karma < 1334096202 805302 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good amount of karma for notepad < 1334096216 885272 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has some other cases too. < 1334096218 929209 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma foo < 1334096219 352089 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo has a karma of 0 < 1334096229 621044 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma alef < 1334096229 970182 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alef has a karma of 1 < 1334096234 573088 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you alef++ < 1334096235 976240 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma j < 1334096236 344392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :j has a karma of 1 < 1334096238 987375 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma < 1334096239 165173 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 13 < 1334096241 281378 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma < 1334096241 457202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 13 < 1334096243 46317 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma "" < 1334096243 206217 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" has a karma of 0 < 1334096247 986176 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phooey. < 1334096253 547126 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :""++ < 1334096255 924123 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma "" < 1334096256 320434 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" has a karma of 1 < 1334096258 783927 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The empty string has an exemption. < 1334096263 258632 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : As in ++ < 1334096272 49158 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma \ < 1334096272 535849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ has a karma of 0 < 1334096276 809734 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma < 1334096277 294466 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 1 < 1334096288 682329 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: I still need to do the thing. < 1334096291 469748 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (run "test") < 1334096291 860584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (run "test") < 1334096295 108504 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@(run "test") < 1334096297 875489 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1334096305 101611 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@run "test") < 1334096305 821173 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "test" < 1334096312 902381 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not what i wanted < 1334096324 9636 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hi < 1334096331 426828 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: You, too? :-( < 1334096372 157554 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma < 1334096372 631204 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 1 < 1334096378 453057 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1334096380 938511 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1334096382 804401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott__ < 1334096399 798402 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of ruined with the nick change < 1334096419 410216 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma @karma < 1334096419 772139 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : @karma has a karma of 0 < 1334096424 242861 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma++ < 1334096424 717082 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage @karma(+|-) nick < 1334096428 912152 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma karma < 1334096429 335697 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma has a karma of 1 < 1334096437 946101 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma++ @karma++ < 1334096438 304306 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : @karma++'s karma raised to 1. < 1334096439 717417 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: Why did you change your nick? :-( < 1334096441 918410 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee! < 1334096444 565975 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's @karma+ < 1334096446 996213 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not @karma++ < 1334096448 821758 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma @karma+ < 1334096449 260643 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : @karma+ has a karma of 0 < 1334096451 342243 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to use lambdabot admin < 1334096459 30250 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: I mean the __s. < 1334096461 150817 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma++ shachaf < 1334096461 310791 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't change your own karma, silly. < 1334096461 667162 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ @karma < 1334096462 44899 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : @karma's karma raised to 1. < 1334096468 1839 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma @karma < 1334096468 386340 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+++ shachaf < 1334096468 547090 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : @karma has a karma of 1 < 1334096468 547272 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't change your own karma, silly. < 1334096482 652368 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like "@karma+ shachaf" doesn't change anything. < 1334096485 650633 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's all type it. < 1334096503 717227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- shachaf < 1334096504 234264 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf's karma lowered to 12. < 1334096510 527469 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i do it right < 1334096515 919075 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- shachef < 1334096516 415169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef's karma lowered to -1. < 1334096518 638921 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So that my nick wouldn't be elliott. < 1334096533 48078 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma++ shachef < 1334096533 48264 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef's karma raised to 0. < 1334096536 736002 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1334096545 730764 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- paraphrased < 1334096552 111548 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- dance < 1334096558 201900 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, shachef++ -- dances < 1334096562 434664 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- tells facts < 1334096566 154317 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- looks up the weather < 1334096566 706067 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And today I learned that I don't know how to spell shachaf < 1334096572 277465 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- spies on you < 1334096581 341108 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to play with BONZI Buddy < 1334096591 577296 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I am now feeling nostalgic for spyware. Fun. < 1334096601 625028 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: Where's that portrait? < 1334096604 623930 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show Sgeo. < 1334096611 967668 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has he really not < 1334096615 607377 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that's a pretty big coincidence < 1334096621 63786 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZDhvag < 1334096623 439323 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1334096625 136360 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZDhvag/shachef.png < 1334096642 344811 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say he hadn't seen it. < 1334096648 693111 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- emails < 1334096650 818518 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- browses < 1334096652 217043 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but And today I learned that I don't know how to spell shachaf < 1334096659 101946 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- schedules < 1334096665 281874 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- searches < 1334096668 701380 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen it before < 1334096670 44354 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- sings < 1334096677 277760 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- laughs < 1334096680 808959 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- makes faces < 1334096694 756044 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- spins a globe < 1334096697 17961 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember listening to BONZI Buddy's facts while eating triscuits < 1334096699 519088 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef++ -- eats a banana < 1334096713 216154 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma shachef < 1334096713 376238 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachef has a karma of 15 < 1334096717 232082 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: kick someone < 1334096720 295686 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't care who it is < 1334096722 743866 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kick shachef < 1334096726 486958 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not me < 1334096730 350483 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Don't do it! < 1334096735 695184 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__ wants you to get a taste of POWER < 1334096750 360823 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what I hate? < 1334096762 569306 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who think they can't make mistakes. < 1334096769 459429 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so they write code badly. < 1334096793 467514 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1334096820 840763 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ? < 1334096838 649871 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sympathizing < 1334096843 730988 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates people who write code < 1334096844 564451 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i wonder if i am one of these people < 1334096851 72146 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's probably generic insecurity < 1334096851 300248 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathnerd314: hi < 1334096852 558304 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1334096855 344698 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oiho no < 1334096858 112018 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1334096858 576684 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1334096859 375908 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhh < 1334096861 648873 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :calm down < 1334096862 775213 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay < 1334096864 372056 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a long road < 1334096874 152368 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should be writing *compilers* for code < 1334096884 109240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's irresistible < 1334096886 411728 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to say hi again < 1334096893 423234 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Mathnerd314 hello < 1334096920 698964 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/kickban monqy < 1334096960 234016 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You seem to have the reasonable mindset of "make mistakes impossible to make". At least as far as security etc. are concerned. < 1334096983 647732 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you think being good at writing secure code and being good at finding security bugs are particularly correlated with each other? < 1334097095 158081 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the former is probably impossible without the latter, but that the latter doesn't necessarily imply the former < 1334097104 297065 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm pulling this out of my anus, so to speak < 1334097145 788337 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with all of what elliott__ just said :) < 1334097167 846253 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you look at a lot of exploits they're kind of horrible code < 1334097180 510367 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploits are the best code :D < 1334097194 331361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :explosive code < 1334097196 495194 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think fits stereotypically into the "unprofessional but determined self-taught tinkering" kind of view of someone who finds security exploits < 1334097204 980089 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, people ask me "are you worried about the security of Mosh" and I'm like "... I'll never not be worried about the security of Mosh" < 1334097221 134661 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which wouldn't fill me with confidence wrt writing secure code < 1334097250 736886 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unprofessional but determined self-taught tinkering" isn't necessarily a bad way to learn to write secure code. < 1334097260 87240 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by "unprofessional". < 1334097276 237530 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean "unprofessional" in the (unfair) sense of "sloppy" < 1334097292 344861 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're saying that if someone is sloppy, their programs will have bugs? < 1334097302 401814 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know. < 1334097304 229232 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if someone's code is sloppy it's more likely to have bugs < 1334097310 884354 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you disagree? < 1334097322 884845 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at all. < 1334097343 485448 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get the feeling you're making some kind of point here < 1334097347 828779 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt you'll find anyone who'll really disagree. < 1334097451 272780 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathnerd314: why did you post those terrible slides :'( < 1334097479 641165 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: because otherwise you wouldn't know about them < 1334097482 489502 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What slides? < 1334097521 336565 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Why-Programmers-Should-Use-the-Haskell-Language-Now-669827/ < 1334097558 905715 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sloppy code is probably the most annoying thing. < 1334097574 71341 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like sloppy code! it's just crap is all < 1334097591 555890 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually get annoyed at it and then tell myself that I'm probably getting too annoyed. < 1334097596 673717 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe that's wrong. < 1334097617 55475 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever seen _why's code < 1334097622 134789 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awful and sloppy < 1334097666 902686 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are different adjectives one can use to describe _why's code (and _why). < 1334097714 721687 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you'll find he'd have readily adopted "sloppy" (possibly he did) < 1334097729 19374 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: Wow, those slides. :-( < 1334097748 151533 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I look at these slides < 1334097757 241998 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334097760 769912 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't look at the slides. < 1334097799 526605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1334097803 681824 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: apparently they're dumbed-down summaries of slides from someone else's talk < 1334097807 128425 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: look at the slides < 1334097811 504796 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll put the fear of god in you < 1334097822 345316 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: I like the DSL slide. < 1334097851 897336 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Homomorphic encryption is a form of encryption where a specific algebraic operation performed on the plaintext is equivalent to another (possibly different) algebraic operation performed on the ciphertext. Adams-Moran said Haskell is good for implementing homomorphic encryption, particularly in protecting data in the cloud—where users want to store only encrypted data in the cloud. Searches and queries work over encrypted data, yielding < 1334097862 471676 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yielding" < 1334097877 312291 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, apparently the talk goes into much more detail about their actual homomorphic encryption work. < 1334097880 305192 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Galois thing. < 1334097907 156806 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great. "Abstraction". Without any details into what that's like from a Haskell perspective < 1334097915 372187 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are ANY of these slides about Haskell specifically? < 1334097915 540312 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: WHOA. < 1334097920 678212 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you suggesting these slides aren't good? < 1334097937 577009 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow these slides are the worst < 1334097943 988683 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to < 1334097945 57705 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1334097946 160015 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking < 1334097946 718720 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at < 1334097947 683765 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :them < 1334097952 955532 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: I didn't realize homomorphic encryption actually worked. < 1334097965 828949 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For, you know, actual things. < 1334098000 307482 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "For example, we don't claim to have solved fully homomorphic encryption, but I can see how you may have gotten that impression from the eweek slides. We're part of a team exploring ways of bringing FHE closer to practicality. The example in the talk is about a different kind of shared computation (and I did a poor job of explaining it)." < 1334098135 300798 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I love the part where everything starts with "Adams-Moran said", though. < 1334098150 206538 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the part where the slides are bad. < 1334098246 788461 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Can you help me figure out how Hugs works? < 1334098259 980405 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the power of HUGS. < 1334098270 146133 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've neither used nor seen hugs, ever < 1334098309 723108 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor monqy. < 1334098311 836778 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs monqy < 1334098316 814891 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There there. < 1334098336 807858 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cabal-dev install --hugs --with-cpphs="$(which cpphs-hugs)" --hugs-options="-98 +o" --hugs-option=-F'cpp -P -traditional' -fslow < 1334098555 974306 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What's Haskell? < 1334098638 972849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how should I know < 1334098753 112502 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What'sn't Haskell? < 1334098838 367146 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Haskell? < 1334098841 972709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't Haskell? < 1334098926 447560 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't. < 1334099019 547515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ cycle "Haskell is " < 1334099020 597998 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Haskell is Haskell is Haskell is Haskell is Haskell is Haskell is Haskell i... < 1334099032 77188 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, this Wikipedia user deflects the need to actually cite their statements by using edit summaries like "THIS IS ALL TRUE" and "VERIFIABLE". < 1334099033 714030 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot haskell < 1334099033 875124 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: honey buns! it's darn near as i can figure us out? that way, if i got any emails?! < 1334099053 315738 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Adding more valid information" < 1334099200 667731 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: monqy: blend < 1334099248 723077 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: monqy: plees blend!!! < 1334099455 969316 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__, linky? < 1334099570 731438 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blend? < 1334099607 594934 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That would be, like, unfair! < 1334099617 799698 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Okay. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pdiddyjr < 1334099635 604267 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have good reason to edit this) < 1334099639 635497 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Once again, I am editing this with good reason) < 1334099929 171968 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone here used channel.me ? < 1334099937 560306 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't know why I'm asking here < 1334099956 929628 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you asking (out of curiosity) < 1334099964 913994 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(once again i am asking this with good reason) < 1334099982 930229 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious about opinions < 1334100009 57587 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't what i meant :( < 1334100033 720184 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's channel.me < 1334100053 715188 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what i meant was "are you considering using it & if so why" < 1334100092 746312 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been playing around with it and because it's fun < 1334100266 852419 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334100292 136544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The XY Problem Channel | Do you like rotating mazes? Do you like the other idea? | I do not like rotating mazes. I do not like them Mr. Z. I do not like them in a tree. I do not like them in the fog, I do not like them on a log. I do not like rot' maze, you see, I prefer my lab'rinth's normalcy. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1334100385 767211 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked it up and < 1334100392 441889 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing around with it? with whom? < 1334100398 149814 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you need other people to channel.me < 1334100412 699308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just people? < 1334100414 110868 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yourself? < 1334100438 611292 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95C36.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334100456 698137 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I'm just a bit surprised is all < 1334100492 546830 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I notice sub-lime is out of the chanserv welcome message :( < 1334100497 329882 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this because of nsqx < 1334100512 948274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO THEY CLAIM, THE BASTARDS < 1334100531 755641 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, there is a person... < 1334100610 245191 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: /msg < 1334100713 877136 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1334100714 287961 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1334100714 448145 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1334100958 549222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334102288 647975 :elliott__!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know "vi /proc/self/maps" works?