< 1335571476 76974 :madbr!~madbrain@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335571527 128039 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335571628 847732 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!act rawr < 1335571633 28454 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335571635 960461 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335571658 69494 :madbr!~madbrain@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the latest trend in esoteric langs < 1335571667 278047 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Batch derivatives < 1335571668 903943 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ive Made Batch Derivatives < 1335571696 604807 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335571819 527589 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!Batch and Numeric Batch < 1335572522 69820 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4456438/how-can-i-pass-the-string-null-through-wsdl-soap-from-as3-to-coldfusion-web < 1335572595 436769 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1335572963 4993 :madbrrr!~madbrain@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335572975 356228 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion lol that sounds messed up < 1335573001 184346 :madbr!~madbrain@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1335573291 100277 :madbrrr!~madbrain@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1335573456 198460 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335574304 794760 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O PyPy is working on STM? < 1335574311 283638 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1335574330 719673 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(The goal is not to expose STM to the user's program.) " Darn < 1335574342 904639 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats STM??? < 1335574388 112285 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: URL? < 1335574393 609123 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2012/04/stm-update-and-thanks-everybody.html < 1335574403 8214 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, do you know what a thread is? < 1335574405 162850 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: Software Transactional Monads < 1335574411 772956 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps monqy  < 1335574420 2595 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps monqy with a 4r8a9i11n13b17o26w trout < 1335574420 178560 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :With arbitrary side effects everywhere, it would be probably much more difficult to expose STM to the user. < 1335574517 503724 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to say they do expose some kind of an interface. < 1335574535 899880 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read the whole thing < 1335574564 287798 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The “transactions” module (which i didn’t look at). < 1335574658 439927 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is working on a Numeric Batch Interpreter Programmed In !Py!Batch (The Python Interpreter For !!!Batch) < 1335574678 406425 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335574680 424144 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry i mean the !!!Batch Interpreter for Python) < 1335574708 67148 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :The !!!Batch Interpreter written in Batch Is shitty It cant do More than 1 Line without confuzzling its self < 1335574735 585439 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :this new one doesnt even need to have any normal batch commands in it not even set str= < 1335574745 840716 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :You Just type it all up and away you go :D < 1335574790 124554 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335574814 205376 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!Py!Batch will also be able to read Python Programs Written Using !!!Batch < 1335574863 651991 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D :d < 1335575105 23829 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric : /j #BotServ < 1335575107 521218 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1335575123 621667 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1335575136 731901 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you there??? < 1335575168 163108 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot < 1335575168 344914 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: you mean the get-foreign-binding??? hahahaha" and < 1335575184 762638 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Really can't Deal With Random caps < 1335575190 303881 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Fucking With my Head < 1335575202 223999 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It Would be Much better if You Used Shouty All caps < 1335575208 460426 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot < 1335575208 811382 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: epiphany doesn't even have the word " flower", it didn't work < 1335575208 904045 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1335575210 429823 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Anything really < 1335575211 280556 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1335575228 849796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335575252 835134 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW ABOUT ALL CAPS? < 1335575260 971732 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's better < 1335575295 163496 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Just don't call the all-cap-cop. :-( < 1335575395 582939 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: There was an Old Man who said, 'Hush! I perceive a young bird in this bush!' When they said, 'Is it small?' He replied, 'Not at all! It is four times as big as the bush!' < 1335575395 707496 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: it seems to be looked at in that way < 1335575410 665825 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MYJAPA得ぬESEI得ぬPUTMETHODMAKESiTVRATHERDi絵笛不iCU得るTTOTYPETHiSway. < 1335575414 812529 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say hi < 1335575414 903752 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: is it caused by intensive allocation? so if i want to < 1335575457 778681 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1335575457 954545 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: just for the global environment of the call/ cc < 1335575503 752968 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot in the rear end < 1335575504 338133 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: be happy to help out with slava's stack-effect inferencer. hast thou a link? :) i don't understand < 1335575513 572469 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi glogbot < 1335575515 827336 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot++ < 1335575516 705102 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: verily fnord, am i right in guessing that anonymous recursion would make this a snap. instantly fix photo flaws in just a tic... < 1335575537 436254 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot must be cheating. These sentences are too realistic. < 1335575538 52191 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am new to fnord wrote a blog entry. i saw that in google < 1335575542 503618 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1335575542 875246 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1335575551 747279 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi < 1335575552 275083 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's ircd. :p < 1335575565 322489 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: O, now I see. < 1335575565 762194 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but the brackets are reversed < 1335575581 334584 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style discworld < 1335575581 825623 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: discworld (a subset of Terry Pratchett's Discworld books) < 1335575600 629760 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what dost thou think of death? < 1335575601 813580 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: " very fnord of you,' said nanny, as much part of the scaffolding." hah! you can't do dat,' said vimes, walking around the figure. < 1335575616 296800 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot < 1335575616 760122 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) < 1335575630 406330 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-228-201.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335575633 462949 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot hi < 1335575633 639542 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: that is just a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there < 1335575641 674897 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style shubshub < 1335575641 747229 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1335575644 621961 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1335575644 885882 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot* homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1335575649 641024 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1335575649 816449 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1335575676 807912 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what have done? < 1335575677 338440 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: but it supports virtually every x estension on any host. it can in most real systems, which allow you to say what are most popular but certainly free software related channels are more popular < 1335575680 648454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1335575681 36503 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1335575746 763777 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1335575746 836050 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1335575750 995704 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot < 1335575751 260733 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: oznaczono jako spam holy flip shotgun thing looked shit hot. what the hell? dark angels? ( watching smoz tuck his tail) < 1335575759 364675 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-227-153.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1335575772 604698 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can fungot have a ^tweet command? < 1335575773 88107 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: this accident in live, go to the game < 1335575780 15389 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tweet < 1335576455 155021 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^pie < 1335576461 808323 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1335576704 194787 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still haven't figured how to garbage collect my language :( < 1335576716 340064 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats your language??? < 1335576772 801272 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimme a sec < 1335576859 437233 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, the easy way is reference counting, right? < 1335577019 818933 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Fatmouse < 1335577050 700522 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madoka: it's harder than that in my case < 1335577061 563998 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since variables never go out of scope < 1335577077 727044 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to figure out when a variable becomes a "dead end" < 1335577086 869837 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie can't produce any more new variables < 1335577092 900914 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case it can be collected < 1335577457 806920 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a lot harder than in java or stuff < 1335577469 94266 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where eventually you run out of referrences < 1335577483 78429 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. delete language, 2. garbage collected? < 1335577534 354541 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, are you, um < 1335577540 816319 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure it isn't Turing complete? < 1335577560 618769 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, give the example of this: < 1335577561 73971 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop.i+1 loop.i < 1335577561 249345 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop.0 < 1335577579 946170 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's totally going to loop < 1335577585 605178 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, worse < 1335577590 619533 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is turing complete < 1335577593 324216 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOld on < 1335577663 617070 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, are you sure determining if a variable can still be used isn't Turing complete? < 1335577693 173663 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid it might involve solving the halting problem or something like that yeah :( < 1335577782 998405 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1335577783 298020 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop.i+1 loop.i test loop2.i < 1335577783 371436 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop.0 < 1335577791 162768 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :test only ever goes out of scope if test2 halts, right? < 1335577809 173520 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, but, you can detect halting at runtime... < 1335577811 933463 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno... < 1335577846 460418 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, if all variables that can reference a variable are consumed, it's dead. < 1335577852 348442 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, I have no clue how you could apply that to arrays < 1335577855 321164 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, that involves math code. < 1335577874 223854 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can't solve all the cases < 1335577882 174020 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-137-26.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1335577903 246321 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can at least solve the case where one of the indexes is always higher on new instances < 1335577971 493495 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, what does this do < 1335577973 784296 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like on an array that's duplicated on each iteration, you can find out that newly produced variables always have a higher iteration index, and figure out when a whole iteration is "dead" < 1335578007 529939 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.1.1 < 1335578010 596340 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.1.1.1 test.1.1 < 1335578017 59593 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :output.0.'a' test.1.1.1 < 1335578044 198071 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335578049 987997 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.1.1 and test.1.1.1 are different arrays no? < 1335578084 846527 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :They share the same name, but, have different dimensions < 1335578146 392137 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess test.1.1 should die once test.1.1.1 exists < 1335578179 200534 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: How do you plan on implementing this language? < 1335578184 16741 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1335578186 842677 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the problem < 1335578188 580610 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iterators seem pretty hard to < 1335578198 249894 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first thought is < 1335578203 167651 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably restrict iterators < 1335578217 129446 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :To represent the entire Fatmouse as [Variable -> Bool] < 1335578249 435680 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to something like "don't make arrays with infinite amounts of data in them" < 1335578264 305861 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-228-201.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1335578298 98161 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, my first thought < 1335578302 195007 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus at least one of the iterators has to have real values in some array < 1335578303 291551 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is to represent variables... < 1335578304 262964 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1335578308 445584 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, um < 1335578310 303958 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me think about this. < 1335578326 995223 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah the real problem is garbage collecting the whole thing < 1335578328 314208 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, hey < 1335578334 435897 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other stuff is a challenge < 1335578338 654752 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-124-83.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335578338 727146 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be possible to solve using algebra or something all the possible valid values? < 1335578439 500637 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1335578451 141501 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let me think. < 1335578453 388975 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given the statement... < 1335578466 548836 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.i test2.i>4 < 1335578507 525878 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that valid? < 1335578510 960677 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1335578511 932428 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind < 1335578520 589476 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.i test2.i+4 < 1335578540 918344 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it looks at all the values in test2 < 1335578548 305083 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :each one gives a value to i < 1335578548 700512 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could check all values of test2 < 1335578550 769188 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then... < 1335578551 540555 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1335578564 517943 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solve for i in x=i+4 < 1335578570 851311 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giving i=x-4 < 1335578574 789911 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :And check if it's defined? < 1335578575 769839 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait. < 1335578591 372742 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't think I could solve all the cases but maybe the easier ones < 1335578619 172858 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie "the compiler solves some cases but only really simple ones" < 1335578623 655750 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm /pretty sure/ you can reduce everything there to rational expressions? < 1335578633 722908 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you just have to write < 1335578640 885090 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.i-4 test.i < 1335578654 801240 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1335578657 931948 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a simple check. < 1335578678 610096 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie "every iterator must appear plain at least once in one of the conditions" < 1335578679 490773 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold on < 1335578684 526771 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, I doubt it. < 1335578746 901832 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okey < 1335578749 753533 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :For statements of the form < 1335578755 493443 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.i test2.i+4 < 1335578757 676792 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could do this. < 1335578766 382946 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :x=i+4, i=x-4 < 1335578776 174733 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, for all x in test2, test.x-4 < 1335578786 189187 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1335578787 774692 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.i test2.i+4 test3.i+6... < 1335578790 503691 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you have all x from test2 < 1335578799 707307 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You treat test3.i+6 as a condition-- you already have i < 1335578868 462057 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if the user asks for < 1335578869 674995 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.i test.(4 + 5*i - 3*i*i + 2*i*i*i - 9*i*i*i*i + 7*i*i*i*i*i) < 1335578883 212131 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1335578885 265583 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.i test2.(4 + 5*i - 3*i*i + 2*i*i*i - 9*i*i*i*i + 7*i*i*i*i*i) < 1335578935 805107 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :?!? < 1335578949 252407 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are all speaking our own programming langauges'\ < 1335578967 429612 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the compiler would have to return an error along the lines of "I'm not matlab" :D < 1335578969 465326 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEt me think. < 1335578977 295066 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Hello < 1335579011 662598 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, for starters < 1335579020 926564 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only have to account for real integer values. < 1335579031 592891 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, sorry. < 1335579060 153847 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's right. < 1335579184 456247 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("1 = 0.");while(1)printf("9"); < 1335579197 821951 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :var.x.y.z (x*x*x + y*y*y - z*z*z)=0 < 1335579214 590365 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fermat theorem :D < 1335579225 632062 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1335579229 640389 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :That format is also a problem :x < 1335579263 402591 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I have to update the page < 1335579266 631373 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1335579270 768393 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leave Fatmouse as it is. < 1335579273 761316 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda like that < 1335579279 198594 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably want to switch the syntax from < 1335579294 590147 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :result.x.y condition.x condition2.y < 1335579297 804331 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to something like < 1335579303 224505 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It amounts to a programming language that, in the long run, is basically a (logic programming?) language that requires a lot of high-level math to solve. < 1335579306 527974 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :condition.x condition.y < 1335579309 903054 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric : result.x.y < 1335579321 779636 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with python style indentation) < 1335579333 880811 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335579334 760735 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /think/ it's a logic programming language. < 1335579353 317370 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1335579356 333772 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, I just realized < 1335579365 426330 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the program doesn't use output < 1335579374 949482 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just halt immediately < 1335579380 590410 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahah < 1335579394 543915 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's always at least one output < 1335579400 231795 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the program halt or not < 1335579401 100285 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now... < 1335579402 687077 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1335579432 376695 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.a.b.c (x*x*x + y*y*y - z*z*z)=0 < 1335579456 394411 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold on. < 1335579503 329420 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, for output to be consmed < 1335579504 871272 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :consumed* < 1335579507 629990 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to be in order, right? < 1335579509 3021 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-238-115.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335579513 920895 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :output.1.'a' alone < 1335579515 139882 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does nothing < 1335579519 772650 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because output.0 was never consumed < 1335579563 262086 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, it seems < 1335579578 800251 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The really problematic case is equations in the form of test.a.b + math on a and b without any limits < 1335579614 151874 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1335579614 896228 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1335579616 307767 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr < 1335579620 689193 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :var.x.y.z (x*x*x + y*y*y - z*z*z)=0 < 1335579623 961197 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compile that to < 1335579646 870036 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :var[x] = \x y z=x*x*x + y*y*y - z*z*z == 0 < 1335579654 29950 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, s/=/->/ < 1335579691 646841 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that prolog or something? < 1335579700 497438 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell pesudocode < 1335579701 90437 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> < 1335579804 702374 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, here's an idea < 1335579815 32939 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :var.x.y.z (x*x*x + y*y*y - z*z*z)=0 < 1335579818 7159 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't think of that as an array < 1335579829 727997 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think of it as a function definition var(x,y,z) = (x*x*x + y*y*y - z*z*z)==0 < 1335579931 528073 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I see < 1335579981 835870 :tswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU NICK :absentswett < 1335580328 690033 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, madbr, here's a thought < 1335580333 625492 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!Batch: !Py!Batch Updated To Version 1.2: More Code Added monqy Sgeo < 1335580343 996514 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the var.x.y.z x+y+z=0 synatx needed? < 1335580347 99859 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax* < 1335580385 979578 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, how does input work < 1335580390 630075 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr* < 1335580393 8259 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1335580396 134039 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't block, right? < 1335580398 662900 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong person, sorry < 1335580401 918048 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol k < 1335580478 309473 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, as far as I can see < 1335580480 917562 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only true hard case is < 1335580501 547258 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :output.x.y x*y=y < 1335580504 739123 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or similar expressions < 1335580576 712054 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: would you be able to make a !!!Batch interpreter in Fatmouse? < 1335580702 484521 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr???? < 1335580848 273466 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, I'm reasonably certain that you can treat the individual arrays as functions. < 1335580865 544346 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, then, brute force for x in 0..255 output.y.x < 1335580933 825867 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would I make a Programming Language iN Python? < 1335581305 333987 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey I have a question: is It Possible to make a programming language in another Programming Language that has features that the Language its made in couldnt perform < 1335581318 735344 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "couldn't" < 1335581333 900176 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "features" and "perform" < 1335581353 356402 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't meaning the Original language Could not perform the function in any way shape or form no matter how hard u tried < 1335581377 375456 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :features meaning functions < 1335581380 666715 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :perform meaning execute < 1335581383 595003 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, well, a compiler could. You could make a compiler that only reads standard input and output, yet outputs code that can do things < 1335581390 912192 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as manipulate hardware < 1335581393 868929 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain please < 1335581457 374320 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose I have some language where each line is a URL, and it outputs the page < 1335581465 191617 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1335581470 478541 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-238-115.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the language cannot perform these in any way, it's impossible < 1335581506 728812 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make a compiler for that language, which, itself, is not able to access the web. Maybe the language it's written in doesn't have network access. However, it could write code to disk and this code, itself, can access the network < 1335581522 695130 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand how < 1335581530 994143 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So compiler (with no net access) takes URLang and converts it to a .exe which does have net access < 1335581533 738622 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-238-115.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's accurate, i was also going to say that would mean that you can't interpret it < 1335581543 42080 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, it's because the compiler is just translating from one language to another < 1335581547 949707 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335581556 644296 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It itself does not need to perform the functions written in the language it's compiling < 1335581628 320733 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Sgeo_ you any good at Python maybe you could help me make a Language in it < 1335581641 494020 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-238-115.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first, what do you want this language to do < 1335581651 934135 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-238-115.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :second, are you going to compile or interpret it < 1335581672 884592 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, first, I want you to realize something. You can describe a language in English, using your words, without actually being able to use that language < 1335581684 338752 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpret it first also I want it to Pretty Much extend off Python and do features that Python can do But with less coding < 1335581697 410991 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, there are several languages on the wiki, in which programs in those languages can never be run. < 1335581702 910578 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1335581725 894475 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-238-115.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some require impossible things, such as solving the halting problem < 1335581728 13420 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, because they require "features" as you might call them which no program running on hardware as we know it can do. < 1335581744 880616 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol but one day they will be able to run? < 1335581756 626015 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And these aren't features like "Go access the Internet", but actual calculations so to speak < 1335581760 364100 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, nope < 1335581763 36391 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1335581771 551438 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :solving the halting problem is actually impossible < 1335581777 355355 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :given a basic metaphysical assumption < 1335581799 495827 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, at least, unless there's a major revolution in computing that overturns what we know... and even then, the same concept would extend over to these new weird computers < 1335581800 800237 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want this Python Language to be an easier version of Python yet do everything Python can do with less programming < 1335581829 315605 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, eh, is it proven that there's no possible computers in this universe more powerful than TC? < 1335581835 851013 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335581837 662879 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335581840 925834 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the basic metaphysical assumption < 1335581844 956459 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1335581854 833956 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-238-115.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what class is the halting problem again? < 1335581863 273189 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RE < 1335581868 75848 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RE? < 1335581873 906659 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursively enumerable < 1335581901 148062 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning you can write a turing machine which prints out all the halting turing machines, one by one, and never prints a non-halting one < 1335581931 131720 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Sgeo_ can you help me make a new language? < 1335581945 373400 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :equivalently, meaning you can write a turing machine which takes a description of a turing machine and returns "yes" if that machine halts, and never returns "yes" if it doesn't halt < 1335581946 529768 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, not much, perhaps a little. < 1335581952 81126 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1335581952 519538 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it's allowed to loop forever rather than saying "no") < 1335581967 386795 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, how is that equivalent? < 1335581976 78209 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, so. < 1335581981 965737 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can Programming Languages Be Interpreted In Multiple Languages to make one large interpreter? < 1335581988 983023 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :A limited version of Fatmouse that doesn't allow expressions in the 'set' phrase. < 1335582002 789285 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. you can't write array.x+1 array.x, only array.x array.x-1) < 1335582003 724764 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, I have no idea what that question means, but people have made programs that work in different languages < 1335582014 11084 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can be easily compiled < 1335582015 63644 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill pastebin what i mean < 1335582026 883493 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :With full array.x+1 array.x syntax < 1335582031 35516 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's much less trivial < 1335582057 330985 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a Programming Language Interpreter using Multiple Languages To Be able to understand what the code of this New programming language does < 1335582117 403215 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: one direction is, we have a TM to enumerate the strings of a language; we want a TM to recognize strings in that language < 1335582135 931442 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we take a string and then run the enumerator until it spits out that string < 1335582143 655645 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, if you want Fatmouse to be truly uncompilable, allow expressions like this: < 1335582144 277079 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib.0.0 < 1335582144 485102 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib.1.1 < 1335582144 557567 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib.x.(y+z) fib.(x-1).y fib(x-1).z < 1335582152 290432 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the string isn't in the language, we run forever, which is ok < 1335582183 702938 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not 'truly uncompilable', but, rather, 'hard to compile without lots of math' < 1335582190 851617 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, it's the other direction I'm concerned about. Yes or loop forever is trivial < 1335582193 480812 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other direction is, we have the recognizer, we want an enumerator < 1335582215 38718 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you simulate the recognizer on all possible inputs, in parallel < 1335582217 5794 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is to say < 1335582245 940411 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TM step 0 of input 0 < 1335582249 318575 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TM step 0 of input 1 < 1335582252 700645 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TM step 1 of input 0 < 1335582255 296016 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1335582268 210806 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335582273 750128 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it was the parallel running thing that was confusing me of how it could possibly work < 1335582285 805545 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking "You'd have to try them in serial" < 1335582297 542284 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yeah < 1335582304 742768 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the parallel simulation thing is a really useful trick < 1335582343 904096 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it would be easier to evaluate if you let expressions everywhere except at least one of the instances of each iterator has to be in one of the input arrays without any computation < 1335582370 68846 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you can pull out a list of possible values for each expression < 1335582372 388749 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1335582375 650931 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for each iterator < 1335582463 129964 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335582467 566999 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you there? < 1335582473 821378 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then that's the reverse kind of language < 1335582494 117078 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas your kind turns everything into functions I guess < 1335582545 859723 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, basically. < 1335582578 629827 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :array.x.y.z x>5 array2.(x-2).y.z can be translated into < 1335582631 972764 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :var array$3$0: (Int, Int, Int) => Boolean = (x, y, z) => false < 1335582636 25369 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Language Idea Name!: Venom Programming Language < 1335582677 54388 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :var array$3$1: (Int, Int, Int) => Boolean = (x, y, z) => array$3$0(x,y,z) || (x>5 && array2(x-2,y,z)) < 1335582685 596119 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :var array$3 = array$3$1 < 1335582688 344809 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Scala syntax < 1335582689 911330 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: if you want to design a new language, you should start by learning a lot of existing ones < 1335582696 300029 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :noope < 1335582696 391569 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you will make the same mistakes others have made < 1335582701 206566 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Batch is a lot, ok < 1335582701 744098 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is < 1335582727 140987 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im Not Making this new Language in Batch < 1335582751 588983 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is...? < 1335582774 522032 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, i can't summarize how to design a good language in a couple of lines < 1335582777 338702 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a huge topic < 1335582783 784615 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :many books and thousands of papers have been written about it < 1335582792 30904 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people don't read them < 1335582798 359166 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so the world is full of awful languages designed by amateurs < 1335582799 520615 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like PHP < 1335582815 926556 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, does it really make a big difference for esolangs? < 1335582837 313482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335582847 385517 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't talking about esolangs < 1335582869 95982 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : I want this Python Language to be an easier version of Python yet do everything Python can do with less programming < 1335582880 592320 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave up on that idea < 1335582886 281752 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335582894 245070 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think inventing new languages is a great way to learn < 1335582901 885227 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't expect to make a good one until you know a lot < 1335582909 649954 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I was considering making a language < 1335582919 69969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be good, Sgeo_ < 1335582919 161402 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: have you read this book? http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html < 1335582922 598688 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goal not really to be good, just to be better than the only alternative < 1335582940 115038 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what alternative, oh right that thing < 1335582944 15670 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh heh < 1335582944 347162 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1335582954 222856 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will make Venom Using Ruby :D < 1335582955 636633 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that a paraphrase or did he really say that? :P < 1335582970 802169 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually maybe not ruby < 1335582972 687491 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :said it < 1335582978 302253 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1335582994 792113 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks itidus20 and shubshub will get along great < 1335582996 504752 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, shubshub does Ruby? < 1335583010 875250 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335583015 251340 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would need to learn it < 1335583023 513596 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, does Ruby count as having first-class functions, given the crappiness of blocks? < 1335583037 443132 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The crappiness of blocks? < 1335583042 180779 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, Smalltalk's a better language. Environment might not be so useful for implementing languages. < 1335583068 627334 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, they're non-first-class things that you can magically pass at the end of a method call < 1335583070 376073 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it’s better just to have a lightweight syntax for all lambdas instead of special sugar for the single-lambda-parameter case, but “crappiness”? < 1335583078 462295 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: it has actual first-class functions too < 1335583101 818908 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, >.> < 1335583106 302554 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ok < 1335583108 418379 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a function to turn a block into a first-class function, and you can call it with block syntax, so it's not much worse... < 1335583108 924292 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1335583123 102469 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blocks are interesting though, in that they capture the caller's continuation, sort of < 1335583127 212625 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, uh, madbr < 1335583133 207550 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to know how the array.x+1 syntax works < 1335583139 611848 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is array.x+y valid? < 1335583155 650596 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, hm? < 1335583163 503674 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use "return" within a block < 1335583165 813331 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you write collected.x array.y.x < 1335583169 529881 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it returns from the caller of the function that got the block < 1335583190 887099 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is from the lexically enclosing function of the block < 1335583193 668051 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not from the block itself < 1335583211 416508 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember someone on reddit wondering if in the far future there might be languages which let you capture "where to return to" as a first-class value :D < 1335583239 883525 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i haven't used ruby much, so some of the above might be wrong < 1335583241 900207 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will make Venom using a Multitude Of Languages :D < 1335583281 165295 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will All the documentation Be Written In your Trademark Random capitalization Style? < 1335583290 489353 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up < 1335583298 342147 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1335583301 595378 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not actually random < 1335583316 128579 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: yeah, that's why it bugs me, i have to look for patterns < 1335583330 585614 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Agda is fun until you know something but don't know how to express it to the computer. < 1335583333 619945 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it's annoying. < 1335583334 937046 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol.............................. < 1335583339 825866 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's true about learning a new language in general. < 1335583360 234283 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335583380 308253 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hello < 1335583391 304361 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1335583398 132841 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but learning how to write functions so that things can be proven about them is a bigger fundamental shift than learning new stdlib IO functions or something < 1335583409 749318 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1335583424 448062 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you know Haskell, learning Agda has the same kind of brick-wall feeling that most people associate with learning Haskell :) < 1335583436 287061 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can prove things about any sort of function in Agda. < 1335583442 141669 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that some are much easier than others. < 1335583481 767176 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are pretty closely the same thing at varying levels of syntactic sugar: < 1335583483 461923 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :def foo(f) f.call(42) end; foo(->(n) { puts "got #{n}" }) < 1335583486 766011 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :def foo(&f) f.call(42) end; foo {|n| puts "got #{n}" } < 1335583491 636048 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :def foo() yield 42 end; foo {|n| puts "got #{n}" } < 1335583500 232213 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: They're not quite the same. < 1335583535 734868 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good grief < 1335583583 715351 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo=->(&f){f.call(42)};foo.(&->(n){puts "got #{n}"}) < 1335583585 730583 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Variable Definer I Just Made can set about 10 Thousand Variables Every Minute < 1335583593 211310 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool! < 1335583600 641062 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 Thousand Variables Every Minute < 1335583604 131782 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :the variable definer is written in batch < 1335583608 17825 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool! < 1335583615 856182 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's as Many as 100 Hundreds < 1335583622 921435 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1335583623 300834 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's terrible. < 1335583628 72933 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MORE THAN NINE THOUSAND < 1335583633 441389 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1335583636 251917 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/kick ion < 1335583644 277075 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's over an ion! < 1335583646 901564 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the capitalization is eating away my brain < 1335583654 148453 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: You know what's terrible? < 1335583656 326628 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, i deserve to be kicked for saying “MORE THAN” instead of the correct “OVER”. < 1335583656 438523 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel. < 1335583666 837203 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Think His Capitalization Is Pretty Nifty And/Or Neato :D < 1335583673 190564 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nifto < 1335583678 277069 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why are {the, can, set, about} uncapitalized? < 1335583682 469171 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, that's not his capitalization? < 1335583688 462517 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay :D < 1335583691 520886 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :D < 1335583693 808103 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335583710 334050 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: i don't know!! < 1335583710 815411 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :D < 1335583717 889702 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION  < 1335583719 971088 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335583728 148879 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :∗ < 1335583736 930494 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: remberber the time when you implied I wasnt' good person :"( < 1335583741 761541 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should be the max amount of variables for my language? < 1335583744 974549 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1335583745 498834 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also.. for more agony, why did he elect to say "10 Thousand" instead of "Ten Thousand" or "10,000" < 1335583751 312302 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just like it was yesterday < 1335583751 936134 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it needss to be more than 3 < 1335583756 620555 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 then < 1335583763 667971 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: because it was yestreday < 1335583764 124002 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It needs alot of variabl;es < 1335583775 660843 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who needs more than 4 variables isn't a Real Programmer < 1335583777 562640 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it hurt :":( < 1335583780 916863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335583781 351701 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I thought that was 3? < 1335583782 433712 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like 30 Thousand < 1335583791 684223 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 30 thousand or 30 Thousand? < 1335583793 23217 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m trying to figure out what the alot of variables looks like. < 1335583794 712147 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :30,000 < 1335583814 577482 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HoNeStLy EvEn MySpAcE CaPs WoUlD Be PrEfErAbLe < 1335583828 305670 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably pretty much like http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TZcKXqR-I/AAAAAAAACwg/F7AqxDrPjhg/s1600/ALOT13.png but with various variable names instead of beer cans. < 1335583835 360817 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Your CaPs are way too regular. < 1335583855 15175 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It WOuLd bE BeTTeR lIKe thiS < 1335583859 828766 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335583864 182345 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs < 1335583865 95572 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be not better < 1335583877 933395 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hOIW abut tYPing lIOEk this?? < 1335583878 21417 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say it would be better. < 1335583885 556936 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iS this bETTER < 1335583887 201055 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be "BeTTeR". Which is a word that means "worse". < 1335583897 697893 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1335583897 876666 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1335583899 147943 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs < 1335583900 821257 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi, bETTER means BeTTer < 1335583900 893787 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know < 1335583915 683566 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.23082 < 1335583952 673703 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know: worcester is better < 1335583963 887067 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so it does hurt the brain < 1335583987 536608 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to Yosemite next weekend! < 1335583998 967771 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-04-26.txt:09:01:36: hi < 1335583999 239224 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-04-26.txt:09:01:59: anyone here???? < 1335583999 335021 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-04-26.txt:09:02:43: I wanna Make my own version of brainfuck < 1335583999 407754 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-04-26.txt:09:03:04: whose PH < 1335583999 480134 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-04-26.txt:09:04:21: how do i make one < 1335584001 138682 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1335584036 211125 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: remrebrer twhen you said how predictable ! < 1335584039 869466 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times < 1335584048 46712 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when you ruined how predictable ! :( < 1335584060 234432 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it: today :( < 1335584062 896221 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad person evidence excibit A < 1335584064 298967 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1335584065 789445 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not today < 1335584070 896963 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright the max variables is 6,000 < 1335584077 780538 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool! < 1335584084 496623 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1335584087 389791 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shub.. sorry to mess with your way of expressing numbers < 1335584094 232095 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thta'ss alo of varialE! < 1335584096 386354 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with 6 Thousand < 1335584113 725333 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what I'd even do with 6,000 variables < 1335584114 995966 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :well its gonna be a big Language shachaf < 1335584117 668409 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe build a house? < 1335584121 155697 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a variables house < 1335584125 98226 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I could live in it < 1335584136 291240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's enough variables, I could do it < 1335584136 607015 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you live in a hosue < 1335584139 764243 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335584141 83151 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in a moues < 1335584146 310565 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you live in a bocks < 1335584151 857677 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335584152 302499 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in a fox < 1335584156 577754 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335584166 388725 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :"( < 1335584167 569655 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-238-115.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should probably limit your variable amount in a more natural way, like how BASIC does it < 1335584181 428589 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, 6,000 is perfectly natural < 1335584182 401718 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python will be used to load everything Into the Language :D < 1335584187 638787 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335584208 597517 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :colon dee < 1335584213 362148 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colon Dee < 1335584219 768071 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2181 MONQY'S TONGUE < 1335584219 840764 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: seriously.. it's fine to say 6 Thousand.. i was just being a bastard < 1335584227 643353 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c: < 1335584228 789709 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Köln Dee < 1335584237 173431 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colonel Dee < 1335584254 585797 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colonel Exploits < 1335584269 203435 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colonel Oops :'( < 1335584270 686109 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: were you trolling < 1335584278 262023 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes D: < 1335584281 150617 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1335584312 430188 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I heard itidus2 turns to stone during the day < 1335584334 413595 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow me too < 1335584351 973020 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hearde eliot has a hearte of stone :" < 1335584354 430275 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard itidus1 gets stoned during the day < 1335584379 524788 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I thought that was you. :-( < 1335584399 400877 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1335584400 12169 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1335584402 565935 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :697) You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. `quote kmc 686) COCKS [...] truly cocks Well, in theory. < 1335584415 91776 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :133) how does a "DNA computer" work. von neumann machines? CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. It's just stealing the universe's work and passing it off as our own. < 1335584439 839978 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I still have a file full of quotes from you that I was going to make an IRC bot out of. < 1335584443 949103 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1335584446 149439 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you didn't like the idea so I stopped. < 1335584454 746040 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also by "full" I mean 3-5 lines. < 1335584462 473103 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's the entirety of the file, so the file is full of them. < 1335584492 718004 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1335586442 74195 :cheater__!~cheater@p4FFB1896.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1335587020 336867 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far my language loads Variables and a User Input < 1335587035 774398 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is almost german capitalizatino < 1335587044 894515 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION punches kmc < 1335587072 335025 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1335587090 764320 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still hits kmc anyway < 1335587106 193580 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1335587109 959059 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what happened < 1335587116 900078 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad < 1335587124 993540 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ducked and you fell over comically into a pile of english grammar books < 1335587129 841336 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1335587416 546305 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" so far my language loads Variables and a User Input" !!!time to celebrate < 1335587443 208640 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time To celebrate < 1335587443 916635 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not yetr < 1335587448 911477 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :DONT CELEBRATE YET < 1335587481 303336 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TcIeMlEe bTrOa t e < 1335587483 545150 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :understood < 1335587512 173746 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-238-115.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could we see an example program in this language, as it stands right now? < 1335587541 611601 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its not able to do anything yet\ < 1335587573 601053 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not so much a language as a burlap sack full of spiders < 1335587581 639043 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335587584 12062 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlap < 1335587618 111844 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend of mine paid off his final university bill with a burlap sack full of gold coins < 1335587621 831293 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a dollar sign drawn on it < 1335587651 856080 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a coffee jar full of silver coins. < 1335587859 786940 :ellisonch!~celliso2@chucky.cs.uiuc.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335587878 357163 :ellisonch!~celliso2@chucky.cs.uiuc.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1335588870 988645 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-238-115.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1335588910 20358 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, as you can tell by my nick, I'm going to be going away for one week, on some sort of fun thing. < 1335588919 973922 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :This information is definitely contained in my nick. < 1335588924 621575 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i though it said absents wet < 1335588927 224250 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :See you all later! < 1335589094 681035 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye absentswett < 1335589212 474882 :cheater__!~cheater@178-26-19-100-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335589308 590595 :huh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335590384 289224 :ellisonch!~celliso2@chucky.cs.uiuc.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1335590493 585560 :cheater__!~cheater@178-26-19-100-dynip.superkabel.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1335590828 844592 :huh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Quit: bye < 1335591267 391817 :cheater__!~cheater@g231040200.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335591710 312837 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1335591750 343149 :ellisonch!~celliso2@adsl-76-199-14-212.dsl.chmpil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335593110 540799 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335593213 386239 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1335593301 163025 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1335593659 320187 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335593719 580033 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335593889 841548 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1335594749 366519 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hion < 1335594769 21932 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi absentswett < 1335594810 267372 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hachaf < 1335594932 99715 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Do you use the Agda? < 1335594978 840316 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven’t got around to studying it, but i’ve been meaning to. < 1335594994 960417 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A LYAA would be helpful. < 1335595001 406110 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Venom Is being Developed Using The Ruby Programming Language' < 1335595016 86886 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You should write one! < 1335595026 168140 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually it already exists.) < 1335595030 795142 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does < 1335595047 3579 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: Should we pronounce “being” in a different way compared to all the other words in that sentence? < 1335595059 307867 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335595062 552688 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :VENOM IS… (whispers) being… DEVELOPED USING < 1335595074 321475 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No pronounce it the same way as one of the other words. < 1335595080 901421 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :VENOM IS VENOM DEVELOPED USING < 1335595083 624141 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :VENOM IS IS DEVELOPED USING? < 1335595127 677847 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Venom is being developed using the Ruby Programming Language < 1335595152 881462 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain hurts < 1335595158 738939 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the Ruby Programming Language™ the same thing as Ruby? < 1335595158 999877 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Venom is ... the Ruby Programming Language" < 1335595162 537159 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :der < 1335595169 857236 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: https://github.com/liamoc/learn-you-an-agda < 1335595186 566339 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :venom is Being developed using the ruby programming language" < 1335595199 570920 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1335595206 267558 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Thanks. Ah, i already saw that link but http://learnyouanagda.com/ that it links to didn’t work and i forgot about it. < 1335595216 488248 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn You Another Agda < 1335595256 647478 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :venom Is Being Developed Using The ruby programming language < 1335595279 327392 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :VENOM IS BEING DEVELOPED USING THE RUBY PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE < 1335595289 777684 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better < 1335595291 194152 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :VENOM IS BEING DEVELOPED USING THE RUBY PROGRAMMInG LANGUAGE < 1335595296 627556 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :STFU < 1335595307 27563 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :VeNoM iS bEiNg DeVeLoPeD uSi... /me shuts up < 1335595330 122951 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many feet does a developed have? < 1335595360 695856 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Venom Is being Developed Using The Ruby Programming Language < 1335595456 243793 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Language is Venom being Developed in? < 1335595464 507765 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind what Language < 1335595467 513246 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides that now is the perfect time to stop being an asshole < 1335595469 47593 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to know What language < 1335595486 315256 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no actually < 1335595490 157545 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to Know What Language < 1335595493 197663 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you Know What I Mean < 1335595497 241940 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1335595503 703658 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :honqy < 1335595510 623606 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335595522 713894 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that a version of monqy which is better because it's written in Haskell? < 1335595558 379013 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Variable Definer I Just Made can set about 10 Thousand Variables Every Minute < 1335595621 25415 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the c in kmc stand for cynical? < 1335595638 810243 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dongs < 1335595656 596530 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The c in kmc stands for dongs? < 1335595657 458010 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dongs doesn't start with c, kmc < 1335595662 907263 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hi < 1335595666 736611 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :honqy < 1335595675 819662 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hion < 1335595689 497289 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heegan < 1335595699 380838 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :INCEPTION < 1335595706 365252 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hinception < 1335595721 174710 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How do you type in fullwidth characters? < 1335595733 478521 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :putStr . map (toEnum . (+ (fromEnum 'E' - fromEnum 'E')) . fromEnum) $ "INCEPTION" < 1335595733 569517 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -CS -Mutf8 -pwe 'y/!-~/!-~/; y/ / /' < 1335595741 695849 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: of course, why didn't I think of that < 1335595743 165155 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pft. < 1335595765 135011 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that actually makes sense < 1335595766 464358 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo c | c == ' ' = ' ' | c >= '!' && c <= '~' = chr (ord c + ord '!' - ord '!') | otherwise = c < 1335595776 13605 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My method is clearly superior. < 1335595783 596754 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite being really inconvenient. < 1335595794 126213 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DESPiTE < 1335595812 966963 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335595827 191101 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335597127 897070 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently venom has already been made by someone else < 1335597193 800169 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, my IME doesn't much care for inputting fullwidth Latin text to my terminal. < 1335597196 452513 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame. < 1335597214 630776 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaand I'm too lazy to use a script. < 1335597215 73733 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :so im renaming the language To Poison :d < 1335597365 81107 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid that Capitalisation in the German Manner has been out of Vogue for Centuries in the English Language. < 1335597615 319683 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, just don't rename it to a single letter < 1335597623 336128 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're hard to google and most of them are in use < 1335597630 340232 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1335597634 949855 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it V? < 1335597637 7079 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: is hi in use < 1335597639 56527 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335597640 250930 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't call it V. < 1335597643 43917 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1335597643 407968 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is my point < 1335597643 498916 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a lettere right < 1335597648 346519 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :V+++ < 1335597658 852493 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :V is a pretty good name but take their advice on this. don't call it V < 1335597662 108334 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, because most letters are taken. < 1335597680 940039 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though not most codepoints. < 1335597683 34522 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A, B, C, D, E, J < 1335597686 443452 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Off the top of my head < 1335597690 804479 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill call it V+- < 1335597693 857349 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, A? Or did I make that up < 1335597713 495872 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You missed a bunch. < 1335597721 183079 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ You Know any ruby? < 1335597722 580503 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Am I a good person now; < 1335597731 498071 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I got all the ones that I knew of off the top of my head at that moment..\ < 1335597732 822403 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am clueless about languages but I know that the following exist: C, C#, C++, D, F#, J++, R < 1335597734 479967 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure < 1335597737 80421 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, U+1F432, 🐱, is perfectly open! < 1335597739 113850 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, R < 1335597754 847309 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres an esolang called F < 1335597769 989787 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, somewhat < 1335597785 463359 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :d sharp plus plus < 1335597787 934931 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335597789 456345 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ wanna help me make it < 1335597796 720930 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, to be honest, not especially < 1335597800 52953 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D is probably best to avoid. < 1335597803 62238 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im Gonna Officially Call My Language V#+- < 1335597808 494157 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :V sharp plus minus < 1335597815 912969 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about it but yeah... < 1335597817 562663 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++--# < 1335597824 731591 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People may think it's a Microsoft language < 1335597827 947258 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the # < 1335597833 373210 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-- exists, btw < 1335597836 167510 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it'd probably work best as --C++# < 1335597846 960210 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C♯ < 1335597850 400161 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would they think its a Microsoft language < 1335597856 246853 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better language than C# < 1335597859 303935 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C↵ < 1335597868 514335 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, several Microsoft languages end with # < 1335597870 989683 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C⇟ < 1335597873 733815 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRLF < 1335597885 852049 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C#, F#. J# I think < 1335597890 888757 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :REDUCED LEMMA FIBONACCI < 1335597910 640796 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help me think of a name < 1335597914 429927 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :V something something < 1335597914 517790 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway < 1335597918 821995 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vnorway < 1335597923 168470 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats' good name < 1335597923 433971 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is decided < 1335597924 141798 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :venice < 1335597926 184783 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :V something something < 1335597934 366623 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i dont like V something something < 1335597934 751719 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :violin < 1335597937 213117 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other MS languages end with #? < 1335597938 39135 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :v norway norway < 1335597951 369132 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :V^^ (what would that be called) < 1335597958 331268 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vladimir < 1335597985 704223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_Sharp_(programming_language) < 1335598000 610991 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%E2%99%AF page but it doesn't exist?? hlep < 1335598002 47474 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :victor < 1335598015 702157 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ how is V^ pronounced < 1335598023 518629 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vendetta < 1335598058 129153 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC is worked on by MS people and a lot of internals have names ending with #, does that count? < 1335598059 450447 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorpal < 1335598062 150661 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_Licious_(Mushroom_Soup_Brand) < 1335598098 125653 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe V** < 1335598158 125935 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1335598165 484876 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :V asteriks asteriks < 1335598201 791783 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just occured to me shubshub doesn't know yet about the matrix of solidity < 1335598235 500916 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote matrix of solidity < 1335598245 299027 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :287) enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity < 1335598316 640722 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a mysterious quote which noone quite understands < 1335598336 410763 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addquote V** < 1335598343 616043 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote V** < 1335598346 837143 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :850) V** < 1335598349 361779 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote V** < 1335598352 471159 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: nothing to repeat < 1335598354 800362 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: To Poison sounds like a nice name for a language. < 1335598362 616622 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poison++ < 1335598383 567130 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: GHC# < 1335598392 788133 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably delquote is appropriate here < 1335598407 715481 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuuuuuu please dont < 1335598437 60498 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 850 < 1335598440 259690 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :850) V** < 1335598447 120000 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`del 850 < 1335598450 269310 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: del: not found < 1335598463 204007 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote When In Doubt V** Out < 1335598466 57888 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :851) When In Doubt V** Out < 1335598467 506931 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 850 < 1335598471 352599 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* V** < 1335598477 709884 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 851 < 1335598480 895710 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1335598486 318967 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 850 < 1335598489 349950 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :850) When In Doubt V** Out < 1335598491 862652 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 850 < 1335598492 992411 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1335598496 250273 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* When In Doubt V** Out < 1335598496 862467 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOO MONQY < 1335598500 171191 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY!!!!!! < 1335598505 862850 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 849 < 1335598509 382037 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :849) 99 bugs in the bug tracker, 99 reports of bugs. Take one down and commit a fix, 106 bugs in the bug tracker. < 1335598517 700735 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1 < 1335598520 988879 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) I used computational linguistics to kill her. < 1335598554 828073 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote `addquote 9001 < 1335598558 603210 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :850) `addquote 9001 < 1335598563 153642 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 850 < 1335598566 133136 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :850) `addquote 9001 < 1335598569 590530 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335598572 815439 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect quote < 1335598576 584055 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont delete it < 1335598599 774380 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's perfect about it < 1335598604 83312 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 850 < 1335598608 629407 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* `addquote 9001 < 1335598612 23191 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: the quotes are a very special almost sacred thing :D (though i havent been here long) it is for your own good that they delete them < 1335598612 500461 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :COPPRO YOU fucking retard < 1335598627 691056 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: is correct < 1335598630 836816 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey now there < 1335598631 775136 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :its over 9000 < 1335598638 27444 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/kick shubshub < 1335598643 560442 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no monqy < 1335598652 438707 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 < 1335598660 709991 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 < 1335598669 299576 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't facebook < 1335598673 15158 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad < 1335598679 821944 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :its faceirc < 1335598706 81318 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they want you to think < 1335598719 774533 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :+Negative1 < 1335598745 623102 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335598762 397842 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :its different cuz it adds a negati ve to u instead of taking away a positive :D < 1335598771 484517 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg there shud be a rating bot < 1335598781 44522 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma shubshub < 1335598781 312569 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub has a karma of 0 < 1335598782 91504 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :where when u use the + or - then a number < 1335598784 722892 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg < 1335598786 395114 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- shubshub < 1335598786 571058 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub's karma lowered to -1. < 1335598788 180915 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 shubshub < 1335598800 338342 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ shubshub < 1335598800 513646 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't change your own karma, silly. < 1335598807 823494 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- monqy < 1335598808 181100 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's karma lowered to 8. < 1335598818 923460 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ monqy < 1335598819 30907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's karma raised to 9. < 1335598825 9691 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- monqy < 1335598825 183764 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's karma lowered to 8. < 1335598829 851547 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- monqy < 1335598830 208368 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's karma lowered to 7. < 1335598834 227569 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- ion < 1335598834 615949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion's karma lowered to 7. < 1335598855 669607 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma++ clog < 1335598855 957356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog's karma raised to 1. < 1335598858 27390 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott i taught shubshub how to use @karma- < 1335598858 290249 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335598867 618960 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ monqy < 1335598867 798110 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's karma raised to 8. < 1335598869 658000 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ monqy < 1335598869 730666 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask shubshub Hello < 1335598870 8663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1335598870 277070 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's karma raised to 9. < 1335598875 79205 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1335598875 342490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1335598879 955396 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ ion < 1335598880 132593 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion's karma raised to 8. < 1335598888 176818 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we stop with the karma < 1335598897 799104 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335598903 354303 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- lambdabot < 1335598903 618926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot's karma lowered to 5. < 1335598951 295684 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma* monqy < 1335598951 525227 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: karma karma+ karma- < 1335598958 552490 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: would you like to learn brainfuck? < 1335598964 443368 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335598968 858448 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brainfuck < 1335598969 111008 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1335598973 743704 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1335598974 8143 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/COMMANDS < 1335598981 60445 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must warn it is called brainfuck for a reason.. < 1335598986 120057 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Know < 1335598999 661639 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would make Brainfuck** thenb < 1335599040 542828 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway.. there is 8 instructions in brainfuck: < > + - . , [ ] < 1335599046 518272 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the first thing to know < 1335599047 492356 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. @karma should store who gave each + and - and weight the totals by the givers’ karmas. < 1335599048 21957 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Know < 1335599120 758316 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't really brainfuck at all.. it boggles my mind < 1335599136 1201 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though theoretically i know what each instruction does < 1335599146 952413 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: EMULTIPLESOLUTIONS < 1335599155 75050 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: sure < 1335599217 310181 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[.] < 1335599217 383118 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ... < 1335599239 178586 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty bad at that < 1335599285 141966 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[.+] < 1335599285 316039 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : . . !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ ... < 1335599335 800520 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[.+] < 1335599335 873614 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : . . !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ ... < 1335599339 978138 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1335599497 747459 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]|!!! < 1335599497 820629 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1335599509 350805 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. < 1335599543 943671 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,].| :D !!!Batch < 1335599544 16533 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!Batch < 1335599556 764479 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf !!!Batch < 1335599589 291111 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1335599589 467606 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forgot < 1335599626 359571 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]! :D !!!Batch < 1335599626 486078 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : :D !!!Batch < 1335599636 930799 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]! < 1335599706 41050 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ! thing is unusual in brainfuck.. it means that after it to put some input < 1335599726 758165 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot what it was for a while < 1335599779 453298 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!hello, world < 1335599779 539702 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, world < 1335599793 513097 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf !im not gay < 1335599922 582032 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.+]!a < 1335599922 764008 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ < 1335599932 655666 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE fuq < 1335599944 962824 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ itidus20 < 1335599945 316268 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20's karma raised to 1. < 1335599991 447129 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do useful things in brainfuck will give a headache though < 1335600003 966336 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_textgen Hello World! < 1335600012 907254 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello World! < 1335600016 796083 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1335600017 181054 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1335600017 641065 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​111 ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. [393] < 1335600047 285679 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. < 1335600047 376101 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World!. < 1335600053 272606 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ta Da < 1335600061 271803 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1335600061 643670 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1335600072 340691 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help befunge < 1335600072 637477 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for befunge! < 1335600077 160926 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge < 1335600090 433801 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. well befunge makes brainfuck look easy < 1335600100 251365 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is bf_txtgen optimized? < 1335600105 578167 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello There My Name Is Shubshub and I will be Helping you write in BrainFuck < 1335600108 684008 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​752 +++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>+++++++>+++++++<<<<-]>---.>>----.>+++..+++.<<++.<++++++++++++.>>+++.---.>+++.<.<.<-------.>>>+++++++.<<.<+.>>----.>------------.<++++.<.<-----.>>>++++++.<<.<++++++++++.+++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++.>>---.>.<++++++.>++.-------------------.<<.>-------.<<-------.>>>++.--------------------------------------------------------------------.<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>>.<<<+++++++++.--------------.+++..>>>.<+.+++.>.<< < 1335600113 221212 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge is much more usable < 1335600119 521129 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>+++++++>+++++++<<<<-]>---.>>----.>+++..+++.<<++.<++++++++++++.>>+++.---.>+++.<.<.<-------.>>>+++++++.<<.<+.>>----.>------------.<++++.<.<-----.>>>++++++.<<.<++++++++++.+++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++.>>---.>.<++++++.>++.-------------------.<<.>-------.<<-------.>>>++.--------------------------------------------------------------------.<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>>.<<<+++++++++.-------- < 1335600119 593695 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello There My Name Is Shubshub and I w < 1335600123 314129 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335600132 85947 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you capitalize randomly < 1335600135 799951 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :well atleast it makes alot of brainfucking sence < 1335600186 124768 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: the most easy to understand instruction is the . since that is the output < 1335600208 812823 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20 can you teach me Befunge and who invented it and why and what it does and what it was amde in < 1335600210 890910 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have suggestions for a good abstract strategy game? < 1335600222 323733 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Befunge" The Video Game < 1335600222 498566 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no im an idiot at these things < 1335600244 930434 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf -. < 1335600245 3434 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335600252 835874 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its Basically a Befunge Interpreter written In Befunge :D < 1335600261 404334 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf -.-. < 1335600261 477109 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335600265 480725 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf -.-.-. < 1335600265 553177 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335600269 765257 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf -.- < 1335600269 837728 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335600278 715518 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^nb ?and? < 1335600289 368411 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I can translate that < 1335600305 354941 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP CAPITALIZING < 1335600309 211940 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's making me feel weird < 1335600321 399828 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :the I has to be capitilzied its proper grammer < 1335600339 274279 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!act lol < 1335600341 210400 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :$hi < 1335600344 422631 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help < 1335600349 196281 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :*help < 1335600354 133603 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help < 1335600357 371042 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :&help < 1335600362 823490 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :~help < 1335600364 913293 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1335600367 32122 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1335600381 318666 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: You lose that argument when you otherwise avoid typical usage. < 1335600387 484971 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“the I has to be capitilzied its proper grammer” was actually quite funny. < 1335600400 702725 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: I wasn't referring to that < 1335600402 228516 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly < 1335600411 994163 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote the I has to be capitilized its proper grammer < 1335600415 287339 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :850) the I has to be capitilized its proper grammer < 1335600418 819483 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I'm a bit of a pedant, though. < 1335600422 883078 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 850 < 1335600426 865194 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* the I has to be capitilized its proper grammer < 1335600429 105000 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not *that* funny. :-P < 1335600430 208908 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :nOoooo it was funny < 1335600452 297254 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The funny part was that that sentence was grammatically broken. < 1335600458 901105 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And typo'd. < 1335600465 547246 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was it rypod < 1335600469 910523 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1335600473 18919 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: when you put ^bf you start at 0 .. so when you put a + its like "+1" .. and putting - is like "-1" < 1335600473 719810 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335600481 129618 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote STOP CAPITALIZING It's making me feel weird the I has to be capitilized its proper grammer < 1335600481 560767 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf + < 1335600482 107737 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :its = belonging to it < 1335600483 844021 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's = it is < 1335600484 967231 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :850) STOP CAPITALIZING It's making me feel weird the I has to be capitilized its proper grammer < 1335600489 950516 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 850 < 1335600493 919247 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* STOP CAPITALIZING It's making me feel weird the I has to be capitilized its proper grammer < 1335600502 449486 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no pikhq it wasnt that funny at all < 1335600519 626659 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Lumpio- < 1335600529 124251 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For what < 1335600530 711677 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lumpio: He knows, he did that intentionally. < 1335600540 78197 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335600547 917090 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing.. i shouldn't < 1335600550 493258 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ....doubtful. < 1335600555 756759 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric : /kick Phantom_Hoover lol < 1335600560 131021 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1335600567 601200 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He’s doing *all* of what he’s doing intentionally. < 1335600571 899387 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, oh dear, you're still here. < 1335600575 492925 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hai < 1335600581 19534 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: One would hope. < 1335600588 670022 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im making a proper programming language now :D < 1335600597 162258 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He gets kicks from us getting all riled up from his tactics. :-) < 1335600602 167828 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would take astounding stupid to avoid typical usage that well. < 1335600611 355450 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he's been here ever since he started being here < 1335600619 333720 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, there exists such stupid. < 1335600620 299046 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was zzo38 < 1335600627 233992 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This guy might be for real < 1335600627 714804 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear. < 1335600638 69404 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: No, zzo38 merely speaks zzo38ese, not English. < 1335600644 675755 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh-huh < 1335600648 617285 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: so with the brainfuck program of "-1" then "output" what happens is 0 -1 = 255! so it outputs character 255! :D < 1335600649 22264 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By sheer coincidence the two languages share some mutual comprehensibility. < 1335600654 394260 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But i must admit shubshub is more entertaining than most trolls. < 1335600657 961313 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf -1 < 1335600658 526523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1335600658 704040 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? < 1335600660 622763 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what happens with: < 1335600667 241416 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!prefixes < 1335600667 884971 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? < 1335600668 797666 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf -. < 1335600668 988222 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335600673 531442 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :?help < 1335600673 989533 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1335600678 41582 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my wording makes no sense don't mind me < 1335600684 806874 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, dammit, that takes all the fun out of yelling at dumb languages < 1335600685 621248 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf -------------. < 1335600685 693697 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335600692 663608 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :#PoisonLang < 1335600709 69487 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf -------------------------------------------------------. < 1335600709 141960 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335600721 440494 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf -------------------------------------------------------.++.++.+++.++.+..+..... < 1335600721 512942 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335600731 463010 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Join the #PoisonLang Channel < 1335600734 208571 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​241 +++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>+++++++>+++++++<<<<-]>-.>>++++++.>.<-.<++.>++++++.>-.---.<<.+++.<++++++.>>-----.>++++.<++++.----.-.<<----.>>-------------.>+++++.-------.<<---.<---------.>>+++++++.>------.<++++++..>++++.<--.<----------------------. [531] < 1335600742 683282 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>+++++++>+++++++<<<<-]>-.>>++++++.>.<-.<++.>++++++.>-.---.<<.+++.<++++++.>>-----.>++++.<++++.----.-.<<----.>>-------------.>+++++.-------.<<---.<---------.>>+++++++.>------.<++++++..>++++.<--.<----------------------. < 1335600742 755805 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Join the #PoisonLang Channel. < 1335600800 6463 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ---.+.-.+.-.+...-...+...-...+..... < 1335600800 115753 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335600817 211680 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION declares sleep beneficial, and does so. < 1335600827 158749 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so whats happening there is every time theres a . it outputs a character < 1335600832 121606 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^join #PoisonLang < 1335600855 138019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: So you declare sleep beneficial, and declare sleep beneficial. < 1335600867 389783 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i must admit the good stuff is too complicated for me < 1335600898 598715 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't stand trying to compare 2 numbers in bf < 1335600900 353245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some "useful" bits in. < 1335600905 430549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord A < 1335600905 502910 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :65 < 1335600909 797234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 66 < 1335600909 980791 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :B < 1335600915 979704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those, for example. < 1335600920 803115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ord < 1335600920 984195 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>,[[-<+2>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<2[>+6[<+8>-]<-.[-]<]+32.[-]>>,] < 1335600923 205535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show chr < 1335600923 328516 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[>[->+10<]>[-<+>]<2-48[>+<-],]>. < 1335600924 599311 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not knocking it < 1335600930 24402 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh :o < 1335600946 193802 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie :D < 1335600959 264088 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found the method of randomly capitalizing words to chafe our OCDs very innovative. < 1335600961 958850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be gone in fifteen minutes or so. < 1335600991 861856 :TABS9597!~TABS9597@02dc9b02.bb.sky.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1335601006 897554 :TABS9597!~TABS9597@02dc9b02.bb.sky.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helo < 1335601040 137574 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1335601054 588887 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335601057 999947 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 100 < 1335601058 72289 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1335601069 775771 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 255 < 1335601070 18875 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335601072 416649 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>+++++++>+++++++<<<<-]>-.>>++++++.>.<-.<++.>++++++.>-.---.<<.+++.<++++++.>>-----.>++++.<++++.----.-.<<----.>>-------------.>+++++.-------.<<---.<---------.>>+++++++.>------.<++++++..>++++.<--.<----------------------. < 1335601072 491020 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Join the #PoisonLang Channel. < 1335601080 388414 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 256 < 1335601093 537545 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fair enough there is no chr 256 it wins < 1335601131 56103 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord ! < 1335601131 234926 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :33 < 1335601152 972357 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord } < 1335601153 152267 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :125 < 1335601155 494560 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (text . pure . chr) 256 < 1335601157 183559 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: : hPutChar: invalid argument (Invalid or incomplete mu... < 1335601186 679618 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :λ> (putStrLn . pure . Data.Char.chr) 256 < 1335601188 585871 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ā < 1335601256 825788 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :λ> hi monqy < 1335601271 587984 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :TABS9597 you should make a programming language < 1335601322 233666 :TABS9597!~TABS9597@02dc9b02.bb.sky.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im no good with programing languages < 1335601331 2764 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn one and make one < 1335601449 406116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 289 < 1335601449 515616 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1335601455 73947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just wraparounds. < 1335601460 66261 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh i get it < 1335601465 959666 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 was an invalid char < 1335601470 641780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can't put a 0 over IRC. < 1335601474 502289 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because 0 is an invalid char < 1335601488 573415 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't think that deeply about it < 1335601503 849527 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 300 < 1335601503 923507 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :, < 1335601515 671953 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 3000 < 1335601515 783785 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335601537 169928 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 3001 < 1335601537 344821 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335601613 662357 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr -1 < 1335601613 925488 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335601623 919325 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr abc < 1335601624 96364 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :K < 1335601651 626869 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr itidus20 < 1335601651 699326 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( < 1335601661 617131 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr fungot < 1335601661 792159 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :v < 1335601830 45844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't really check for errors. < 1335601836 114911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord 9 < 1335601836 187467 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :57 < 1335601839 783730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 58 < 1335601839 956669 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1335601854 807014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 80 < 1335601854 894190 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :P < 1335601857 338467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 7: < 1335601857 425935 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :P < 1335601865 956274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goes like that. < 1335601877 7937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :: is the digit 10 and so on. < 1335601929 975414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 47 < 1335601930 185570 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ < 1335601936 43368 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz TOPIC #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ <--- EsoTeric Languages :D :P < 1335601946 866864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 79 < 1335601947 48843 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :O < 1335601949 878511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 8/ < 1335601950 62 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :O < 1335601951 469409 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^CHR OMG < 1335601957 409349 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 1 < 1335601957 481788 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335601960 418860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And / is the -1th digit. < 1335601970 167239 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 8 < 1335601970 239546 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335602051 422195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335602057 519622 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliot < 1335602061 859752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1335602195 798056 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: its not an error :> < 1335602216 69151 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr OMG < 1335602216 244055 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :U < 1335602447 211937 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Can fungot accept Python programming for an interpreter? < 1335602447 387805 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: wtf! lol i dribbled just got mind raped i was going to be a real dumb one too, or in this < 1335602456 603607 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wut < 1335602525 967983 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ?? < 1335602587 856671 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzew: ?? < 1335602646 408501 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335602672 195479 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335602826 504381 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335602868 167874 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335602885 429666 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335602987 991355 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335602995 385689 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1335603223 730565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335603235 581024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric 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'/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1335603236 950215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603237 568477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603239 574050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603241 444042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott no < 1335603243 78405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603243 382070 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :-OMG WTF < 1335603243 563381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603243 848503 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop that < 1335603245 534822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603246 46234 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP < 1335603247 488186 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK UP < 1335603247 670100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603249 205829 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMF < 1335603249 567124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603249 917817 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMF < 1335603251 554653 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMFH < 1335603251 627155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603251 947377 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck up, elliott < 1335603253 494337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603254 23708 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMFG < 1335603255 620415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603257 456684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603259 447377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603260 671716 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELLIOT SHUT THE FUCK UP < 1335603261 601193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX < 1335603263 574894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1335603264 101004 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPAM < 1335603387 320487 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY FUCK < 1335603467 16243 :Aardwolf!~BBQ@124-171.62-188.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1335603572 79271 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: hi < 1335603579 211873 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335603633 804655 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: you should try making a functional language < 1335603643 545317 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to < 1335603659 3831 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional not as in "it works" < 1335603687 993580 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335603701 584772 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in "you process functions... take in functions, process them, make new functions" < 1335603702 570717 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was afk < 1335603792 89439 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: remember what I told you about Monads? < 1335603798 539773 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335603815 475321 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh I don't understand monads yet < 1335603862 364228 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335603916 79994 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: you should take a look at a monad tutorial < 1335603920 403520 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335603925 580266 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not ? < 1335603930 317773 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont want to < 1335603935 64181 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not ? < 1335603965 689334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad tutorials are fun! < 1335603970 278797 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tutorial you about monads < 1335603980 816624 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ami fun :"( < 1335603980 908217 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhh < 1335603992 353169 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think shub can do it but he will be a tough nut to crack < 1335603993 796570 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure ! < 1335604000 484705 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ami moand tutoal < 1335604004 395519 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: see, even itidus20 believes in you! < 1335604007 15117 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: sure ! < 1335604008 291175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1335604010 782763 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure ! < 1335604011 135966 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know monads are beyond me though < 1335604025 773481 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: first steppe < 1335604033 477211 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but honestly. i think he can. < 1335604040 244559 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what language do you normally program in < 1335604058 124280 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: monqese < 1335604119 249686 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: firstte steppe, a monad is just a monadoid in the endomonocategory of monads < 1335604137 538621 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie monad = kitten < 1335604141 396778 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: listen to shachaf < 1335604145 391929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: he knows monads < 1335604147 454172 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like kittense < 1335604172 248807 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: listem to me,i no monads good < 1335604184 981980 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe but they wont help me < 1335604186 448364 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: secondde steppe: < 1335604196 302029 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you break the monad laws you go to monad jail < 1335604202 88428 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335604206 863429 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: they could make you rich to be honest < 1335604223 422466 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: monadse can make you rich beyond your wildest dreames < 1335604224 768256 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesnt want to be rich < 1335604230 9547 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: monadse can make you poor beyond your wildest dreames < 1335604239 991362 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesnt want to be poor either < 1335604256 439455 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: monadse can make you foamous beyond your wildest dreames < 1335604283 24254 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok some of the teaspoons in my house have "hospital property" engraved on them. < 1335604288 929559 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to be normal < 1335604304 962031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335604305 297480 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a lame want < 1335604306 535880 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335604310 204986 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just want you to leave. < 1335604314 731128 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: get out < 1335604325 178180 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Come in! < 1335604331 980001 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhhhh < 1335604342 520553 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Don't listen to monqy. monqy doesn't even know monads. < 1335604345 979496 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the nhs is subsidising my teaspoons, spread the word < 1335604389 612045 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the plastic cup i drink from everyday is one i had in my pocket by accident after a viist to someones house < 1335604407 634627 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't even remember why it was in my pocket.. it wasn't a stealing attempt < 1335604409 671755 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, you have a single, plastic, cup. < 1335604429 459037 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well glasses keep breaking < 1335604434 59133 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have plenty of mugs < 1335604452 469357 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1335604520 118157 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cheap plastic thermuses are a joke < 1335604544 169531 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Updated my !!!Batch Page with the source code of !!!Batch!Py!Batch Source Code :D (The Failed Yet Would Work Only If... !!!Batch Interpreter Written In !!!Batch) < 1335604716 958953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have ipv6? < 1335604725 351747 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: On my serverthing. < 1335604734 16659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone has ipv6 on their serverthing < 1335604750 108728 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Protocolversion 6. < 1335604760 983553 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipv6 is out now? :o < 1335604768 82456 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where i'm from all they've got is ipv5 < 1335604770 182246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Protocolversion is french for protocol version < 1335604783 854425 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was German. < 1335604794 494566 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWIST: IT'S ACTUALLY CHINESE. < 1335604804 730779 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good twist < 1335604806 804411 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasp < 1335604809 798223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a < 1335604812 650078 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :double twist < 1335604814 811794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335604816 779294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats dna < 1335604817 962620 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please say yes I love double twists oh :( < 1335604828 515584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o t o h < 1335604831 588851 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOUBLE TWIST: < 1335604836 214726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335604837 183675 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE WAS NO DOUBLE TWIST < 1335604839 778360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335604842 370137 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calculon is the father! < 1335604854 51002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1335604905 309105 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know whats goode < 1335604906 597988 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: < 1335604912 343104 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itse bizarre twist < 1335604914 479965 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by paul harris < 1335604992 6838 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that < 1335605008 122329 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :johnny b goode < 1335605031 830886 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What's southern California like? < 1335605040 17635 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost went there this year. < 1335605041 305393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :southern < 1335605077 877343 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's shaped like a gerrymander < 1335605158 865812 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "You want rockstars you better be a rockstar yourself. Brogrammer startup job fairs are not going to cut it." < 1335605184 483519 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just happened to be on the relevant wiki page < 1335605185 233171 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The odd shapes of California Senate districts in Southern California (2008) have led to claims of gerrymandering." < 1335605201 360199 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogrammer? < 1335605244 396936 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brogrammers and hogrammersw < 1335605259 947173 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brogrammers are the worst < 1335605292 925341 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :All they can do is copy and paste together some jquery mvc framework and python on rails or whatever and then boast about it to their friends at the coffee shop < 1335605308 435948 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they make "mashups" not software < 1335605314 46388 :TABS9597!~TABS9597@02dc9b02.bb.sky.com QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1335605338 31462 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who do they think they are meeting up with friends at coffee shops, the people from the tv show 'friends'? < 1335605389 360113 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335605395 611449 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1335605593 545933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Ngevd < 1335605623 600112 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hnevd < 1335605626 214831 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd < 1335605630 779432 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nngevd < 1335605646 34904 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellol, shachaf! < 1335605654 689654 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helllo < 1335605669 733375 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is such a waste of time. < 1335605671 290049 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PART :#esoteric < 1335605679 769182 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1335605710 80097 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick Give me a language to create a new esoteric in < 1335605732 313665 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: malbolge < 1335605736 951668 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335605766 310438 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, shachaf :'( < 1335605797 156955 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: No just no too difficult < 1335605855 207891 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give Me Another Language to make a new esoteric in quick! < 1335605861 310582 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HQ9+ < 1335605862 828051 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: scheme < 1335605872 498232 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice thinking sgeo! < 1335605894 633426 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, am I not allowed to have a nasty streak on occasion? < 1335605915 472145 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have an interpreter for it in here though? < 1335605922 171368 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ you cant make a new esoteric in HQ9+ < 1335605944 21741 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that that is a requirement < 1335605974 160467 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, there's a great language called English. < 1335605985 140998 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very good language to make an esoteric language with < 1335605997 322122 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ dry < 1335606006 797145 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders If every living language is written in english? < 1335606027 986742 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/English < 1335606081 611022 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Gravity there is no program capable of interpreting or compiling programs written in Gravity < 1335606103 889839 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, I think the snarky thing to say about Perl is that the only spec for Perl is the implementation of Perl < 1335606142 565213 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would have to now make a Gravity Interpreter Lol < 1335606229 486236 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, it's not possible. Well, hmm, I wonder if you could make a program to do it... but running the program would require infinite hardware < 1335606242 268115 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some other sort of infinity computer < 1335606267 42190 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, turing-machines are infinite memory < 1335606268 577130 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1335606283 252082 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335606357 125690 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :what esoteric language is the most easiest to learn and can do alot of stuff? < 1335606363 508493 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from english of course\ < 1335606380 15244 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im awful at explaining it but bf is really actually quite powerful < 1335606405 739690 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, in terms of what it can compute, at least < 1335606437 429590 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: false < 1335606460 658641 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: at least if you have ever used forth < 1335606464 106197 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!this program prints everything after the exclamation mark... so its sort of like echo < 1335606464 178744 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this program prints everything after the exclamation mark... so its sort of like echo < 1335606482 627816 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,] < 1335606482 740955 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this program prints everything after the exclamation mark... so its sort of like echo < 1335606491 451427 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no itidus20 just no < 1335606496 355110 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol weird < 1335606504 899212 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!RAwr < 1335606505 74230 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAwr < 1335606511 8151 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,] < 1335606511 80643 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAwr < 1335606514 288365 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait nvm < 1335606518 603098 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, Brainfuck is capable of any computation a computer can make. < 1335606524 272885 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno how it keeps that stuff in memory < 1335606543 551364 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. < 1335606547 368600 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen ,[.,] < 1335606549 317644 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​56 +++++++++[>+++++>++++++++++>+><<<<-]>-.>+.<++.--.>++.>+. [191] < 1335606557 710670 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++[>+++++>++++++++++>+><<<<-]>-.>+.<++.--.>++.>+. < 1335606557 798145 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.,]. < 1335606564 806136 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++[>+++++>++++++++++>+><<<<-]>-.>+.<++.--.>++.>+.+++++++++[>+++++>++++++++++>+><<<<-]>-.>+.<++.--.>++.>+.+++++++++[>+++++>++++++++++>+><<<<-]>-.>+.<++.--.>++.>+.+++++++++[>+++++>++++++++++>+><<<<-]>-.>+.<++.--.>++.>+. < 1335606564 878556 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.,].^`^#%‡‰( < 1335606581 815004 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1335606590 420496 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: ok ill explain it now or try to < 1335606633 558212 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ititdus20 r u any good at programming in brainfuck??? < 1335606638 3027 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comma means read in a character from the input.. the [ and ] sort of form a loop .. and the dot outputs a character < 1335606665 599825 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the simplest program to use input and output would be like this < 1335606695 686943 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats The Most Diffcult Language To Learn Thats An EsoTeric < 1335606721 355503 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: malbolge < 1335606731 16479 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,.!1 < 1335606731 195515 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.... i may have got smoething wrong there < 1335606731 267978 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1335606731 547000 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,.!a < 1335606731 619894 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1335606734 800126 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I DONT WANT TO USE MALBOLGE < 1335606738 527066 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh there we go < 1335606745 41579 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,. < 1335606745 114147 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1335606749 513231 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,. < 1335606749 718080 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1335606750 747072 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, does BancSTAR count as esoteric? < 1335606756 179476 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1335606779 405819 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the ! is the input into the program.. < 1335606797 141086 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ,. just reads a single character and outputs it < 1335606809 551874 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,.!# < 1335606809 641861 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1335606815 697288 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,.!^ < 1335606815 960207 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1335606824 263321 :CICCIORIUS!~CICCIORIU@217.203.227.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335606836 198909 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :is BrainFuck++ anygood? < 1335606856 877383 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, this is not an esolang, but here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BANCStar_programming_language < 1335606859 436073 :CICCIORIUS!~CICCIORIU@217.203.227.186 PART :#esoteric < 1335606870 719039 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :No thanks Sgeo_ < 1335606877 459242 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only work with esolangs < 1335606877 633618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cicciorius!!! < 1335606894 560351 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, it may as well be an esolang, it's more incomprehensible than many esolangs < 1335606895 179436 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott Do You Know any Epic EsoLangs I should Program with? < 1335606895 616871 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335606899 53215 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect from his id he was one of the other type of esoteric < 1335606919 132768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1335606919 548380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1335606929 234341 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1335606929 577934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1335606935 831850 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask shubshub hi < 1335606936 224362 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1335606939 605396 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY NOT < 1335606955 606958 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something absurd about that exchange < 1335606963 893333 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself... why can't I tell myself < 1335606969 158570 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should sleep < 1335607035 705661 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is Java listed as a Joke Language? < 1335607057 461628 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because a lot of people dislike it < 1335607062 23105 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335607079 148418 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Java < 1335607121 40457 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zzz time < 1335607145 727071 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mugh brains looks fun < 1335607148 460744 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is asm not meant for human use? Have I misuded it for 3 years? < 1335607155 85696 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335607223 607594 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335607237 768594 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1335607385 895766 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-126-74.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335607474 975706 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-139-119.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335607526 941639 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-124-83.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1335607666 399943 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All popular modern languages are defined via a definitional interpreter with accompanying O’Reilly “animal” book. The work on Wikiplia is unrelated: We have no animal mascot" < 1335607670 143092 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-126-74.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1335607752 43203 :cheater__!~cheater@g231040200.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335608566 366587 :cheater__!~cheater@g230226159.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335608659 818491 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Just added capital lettering to !Py!Batch < 1335608689 8515 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DF45.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335608723 173173 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's new < 1335608733 337223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :batch derivatives < 1335608747 173392 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi ligatures o_Ô < 1335608759 287312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :batch derivatives and fi ligatures < 1335608787 764134 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you say derivatives, i assume someone made a batch manifold? < 1335608794 76087 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you mean < 1335608802 704786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1335608850 649996 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :manifold? < 1335608943 815060 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a manifold is a topological space where all points have a neighborhood homeomorphic to euclidean space, and these homeomorphisms are compatible so that essentially you have a "locally euclidean" space with the global structure possily being very different. < 1335608978 846496 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I didnt do that with my Batch Derivative < 1335608980 910004 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance a cirle looks like the reals locally, but globally it's a bit different. < 1335608992 236941 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/!!!Batch < 1335608997 759257 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also stricly speaking you cannot make a countable manifold < 1335609072 839066 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because euclidean space, that is, R^n for R the reals and n a natural number is uncountable, so you need to have at least the cardinality of reals < 1335609101 599614 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i figured maybe you gave a better definition that doesn't have this horrible flaw. < 1335609124 701095 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like my programming language? < 1335609135 276667 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE CAPITALS < 1335609136 245822 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAGH < 1335609139 355709 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1335609169 888831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: i know a great solution to capital problems < 1335609178 547037 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtg < 1335609192 512127 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was Created By Shubshub To Make Programming In Batch More Challenging and to Make it seem Better as it is Theoreticly Unreadable < 1335609192 687614 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you use the Translator < 1335609211 69851 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds even more awesome than what i suggested < 1335609220 232428 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does it say that? < 1335609227 431414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory don't always match up with practice y'know < 1335609254 662241 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway gtg cya < 1335609260 96079 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1335609263 881189 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What's your solution < 1335609267 719657 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-92-0-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335609275 972323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: well it starts with /ig < 1335609279 96957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ends with nore shubshub < 1335609283 791808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works great < 1335609284 870272 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you say theoretically unreadable, i assume you mean parsing is high in the arithmetical hierarchy < 1335609292 503642 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I actually read that as regexp flags first < 1335609302 953229 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And was like "wait don't those go in the end" < 1335609320 450793 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what "seem" means is outside my understanding of game theory really < 1335609402 493493 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without An Infinite Line Translator Code The Program Can Only Interpret Things On The set str= and Does not Handle set commands very well then executing another command after as It will most likely skip over that next command completely < 1335609472 455616 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/!!!Batch look how unreadable the code is?!?! that's basically UNREADABLE :D < 1335609523 236456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*theoretically < 1335609541 723968 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-139-119.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1335609542 775439 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*theoreticly < 1335609551 887629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry im not a good typier < 1335609557 292283 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :u suc < 1335609559 983180 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at typping < 1335609650 738509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you're so diagonal < 1335609678 357513 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey duddes how about this language i've been designing the last 4 months where you take brainfuck except well call it brainfuckER and you reverse all the characters, and you have to draw the program in paint? and then there's brainfuckiest where you just say beep boop in a microphone and it's interpreted as a fibonacci code word and then it's multiplied by 7 and then it's interpreted as a brainfuck program except that if you print the same thing twice < 1335609813 663891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you put those on the wiki < 1335609922 784773 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sound like something i'd do, but you can if you wish. how many bf derivatives are there out there? < 1335610049 676000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :over 100 < 1335610488 923048 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vjn.fi/pb/p9485438415.txt do you like my new language < 1335610512 706085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than life itself < 1335610517 823847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you put it on the wiki < 1335610526 20611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like that < 1335610528 810417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copy and paste < 1335610533 282521 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, i have bigger plans < 1335610533 930387 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335610543 820474 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you do these complicated things for me :D < 1335610556 342871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Most_ever_Brainfuckiest_Fuck_you_Brain_fucker_Fuck&action=edit&redlink=1 < 1335610561 966695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there that's like 90% of the effort done < 1335610581 368933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: did u see my brainfuck derivative < 1335610586 548334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Not_a_brainfuck_derivative < 1335610593 88900 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1335610599 566346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not as good as most ever brainfuckiest fuck you brain fucker fuck :( < 1335610641 172111 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost left my nick out, but it's there now. < 1335610662 793336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's in the revision history anyway < 1335610683 991089 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it needs to be explicit so people know the great work i do. < 1335610693 553083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fighting the temptation to put {{featured language}} on that < 1335610698 617331 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335610722 633727 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that i have no idea if that's brainfuck complete :D < 1335610733 397596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go fucking yourself is definitely braincufk copmpetle < 1335610738 24363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typos < 1335610745 426026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*words < 1335610747 149995 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an important open question < 1335610773 210959 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335610775 703614 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you solved it already < 1335610780 782657 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck you're intelligent < 1335611053 553125 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335611078 246466 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335611707 362089 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have to get my colleague in on my next brainfuck project < 1335611913 613316 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be turing complete iff riemann's hypothesis is true XOR p != np. < 1335611931 78040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's already a language whose tcness is predicated on goldbach's conjceture fwiw < 1335611937 934909 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1335611945 354043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cpressey's Oozlybub and Murphy) < 1335612002 171328 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that. in any case, that's not the only point. < 1335612011 6284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i said fwiw < 1335612134 482586 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that actually looks kind of interesting (at least its introduction) < 1335612191 196618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cpressey lang of course it's interesting < 1335612211 74401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he and ais523 and oerjan are the only people who should be allowed to make esolangs < 1335612213 709840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok tswett too for /// < 1335612222 435627 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i will just make it trivially tc, but base the solution on obscure theorems no one knows. < 1335612242 753670 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, clue is pretty awesome. < 1335612260 273909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok sure, keymaker too < 1335612265 442348 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335612275 111049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEE WHAT I DID THERE???!?!?!?!?!?!???!?!?!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!??!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?! < 1335612285 107067 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that was my plan < 1335612309 423583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION "unwitting porn" < 1335612310 219283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pawn < 1335612315 41586 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwahaha. < 1335612340 982061 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm watching numb3rs for inspiration < 1335612397 507613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote numb3rs < 1335612400 501857 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :766) speaking of math, i watched an episode of numb3rs today the first episode was more like 57471571c5 < 1335612410 849866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`qc < 1335612413 791659 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :850 quotes < 1335612415 528080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 849 < 1335612418 995583 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :849) 99 bugs in the bug tracker, 99 reports of bugs. Take one down and commit a fix, 106 bugs in the bug tracker. < 1335612419 965129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 850 < 1335612438 158248 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :850) STOP CAPITALIZING It's making me feel weird the I has to be capitilized its proper grammer < 1335612446 35432 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, that's an awesome quote < 1335612453 930306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1335612460 362027 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion's < 1335612463 751847 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of mine are awesome < 1335612469 542305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he claims he stole it < 1335612471 420524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe him though < 1335612484 843271 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just paraphrasing someone on Slashdot (who probably was paraphrasing someone else). < 1335612485 749645 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :everytime i see one of my old quotes i'm like lol that guy is hilllarrious < 1335612494 648107 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1335612535 398960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one isn't exactly old :P < 1335612549 436450 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :feels like forever, i've continued watching. < 1335612570 237269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes oklopol < 1335612574 11453 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10757 < 1335612596 875114 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"37) i'm my dad's unborn sister" i agree with you on this one ofc < 1335612619 466272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i ended up deleting none of those < 1335612622 515033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"slave 2 the oklopol" < 1335612657 277701 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"153) pigeons are very smart. all the known ways to show a language is not regular are based on pigeons." < 1335612710 238257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: whats youre opinion on how the quotes should be identified < 1335612717 469344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is widespread dissent against the "changing numbers" system < 1335612750 514718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most promising options seem to be (a) unchanging numbers like they used to be (but this is kinda ugly) (b) a prefix of some cryptographic hash of the quote contents (c) just identify it by the quote itself (so you delete it by pasting the quote in) (d) timestamp < 1335612812 997086 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"312) [After a long monologue] i think i have to escape this heated discussion before it becomes a flamewar" classic oklopol < 1335612818 175528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: remember famous bisexuals < 1335612820 356901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego does < 1335612864 19730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :537) i started running and smoking i love my lungs the way they are so trying to balance them out < 1335612900 173522 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i really need to have an opinion on that? well i certainly think you should be able to refer to a quote. < 1335612936 875321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's mandatory for you to have an opinion on that < 1335612981 858431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :841) gah this language is of the devil oklopol: you're meant to use your powers for _good_t < 1335612983 272264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1335612984 238246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-t < 1335612985 734446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-8 < 1335612992 678869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've forgotten that language already, thank god < 1335613038 926090 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :443) well you know because i could've used my "wtf, you have multiple identity elements smiley" o=oO=O yeah, i have a smiley for everything. < 1335613054 435858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how the quote is misplaced < 1335613066 48289 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1335613075 812103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be < 1335613077 777098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elements" smiley < 1335613089 382605 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"451) you know that thing in the movies where they put a pillow on someone's face and try to suffocate them that doesn't work. we tried that with my ex once, but we just couldn't kill each other that way" :SADSADD < 1335613204 655908 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a fun conundrum: < 1335613240 609046 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My unionfs thing is based on the environment with which a process looking at the union was called. Which is all fine and good, I just need to get that info out of /proc/foo/environ < 1335613257 604548 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOWEVER, if that process is in the middle of an execve, guess what /proc/foo/environ does! < 1335613277 610514 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you guessed "it's empty", YOU'RE WRONG! It blocks until execve is finished! < 1335613303 487643 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what if, ohhh, execve was waiting on some FS functions, which are themselves waiting on /proc/foo/environ? < 1335613306 755168 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahaah *kills self* < 1335613348 901546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: are you implementing all the features i asked for < 1335613356 577397 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not! < 1335613366 273300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: do you have to go through /proc surely the kernel has interfaces for this < 1335613382 6479 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the kernel does have interfaces for this. They're called /proc. < 1335613394 183052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1335613394 927667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1335613395 811555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :internal < 1335613396 334840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :calls < 1335613398 225810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make < 1335613408 457357 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they go like this: < 1335613415 626735 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :open("/proc/whatever/environ", O_RDONLY) < 1335613417 857114 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :read(...) < 1335613421 997489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway check whether the process is currently execveing? can you do tha < 1335613422 701028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1335613454 460488 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe? But even if I do, then what? I still need the environment. < 1335613481 833793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Cache it? < 1335613506 978353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And always read environ right after execve (so that if the first thing a process does is execve, you still know what its environ was). < 1335613515 824080 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cache it from where? I need the environment that was /passed/ to execve. < 1335613525 587661 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which may not be the environment of the caller. < 1335613527 658184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cache it from previous requests. < 1335613534 533377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, eeeh, are you sure < 1335613535 271208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1335613538 927837 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at you two being famous bisexuals together < 1335613546 690674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect it to use the original environ to resolve the request for the executable. < 1335613552 711920 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1335613556 227597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could override execve somehow. < 1335613556 433844 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1335613563 623103 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then it's just a trick of figuring out if I'm in execve. < 1335613574 12556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Consider running /secret/highlyprivate/motherfuck/executables/viruspoop.exe in a restricted environment. < 1335613590 811368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With your design, there'd be no way to run an executable in a heavily restricted environment. < 1335613598 76441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Without specifically moving it somewhere to give it access to itself.) < 1335613613 657707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it'd mean that you could pass exec a path that doesn't exist (from your perspective) and have things work, which is just weird. < 1335613634 986204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: HOWEVER make sure /proc/self/exe doesn't break if you use the parent's environment. < 1335613639 32273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might have to re-link it somehow. < 1335613658 446740 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335613664 236369 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1335613665 805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Obviously it's fine for it to stay broken if you specifically run it in a union without access to itself, though.) < 1335613710 204911 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Ngevd! < 1335613732 7938 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see my new brainfuck derivative? it's almost as good as the original. < 1335613759 913155 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not! < 1335613763 448689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost < 1335613784 916731 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :really the connection is quite subtle < 1335613799 541483 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The call related to execing can be the very first call the unionfs sees :'( < 1335613804 590859 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language was inspired by the seminal work of shubshub < 1335613819 283328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Most_ever_Brainfuckiest_Fuck_you_Brain_fucker_Fuck < 1335613828 745536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: As I said: < 1335613832 7514 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooow < 1335613832 890215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 12:45 Gregor: And always read environ right after execve (so that if the first thing a process does is execve, you still know what its environ was). < 1335613849 510507 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Dude, I'm a filesystem. < 1335613858 247566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So? You're in kernelspace. < 1335613862 802410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you register that kind of shit? < 1335613877 410272 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm still FUSE. And even if I was in kernelspace, is it really appropriate to instrument every program >_< < 1335613889 835732 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: elliott proved it's in fact _not_ brainfuck complete < 1335613908 386920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh, FUSE? Well, fuck that. < 1335613912 505941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Get into kernelspace, man. < 1335613916 873537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do things like instrument every program. < 1335613917 402746 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although maybe this is the most compelling argument yet that I need to stop being FUSE X-D < 1335613918 563318 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow! < 1335613937 374536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: If you specifically overrode execve, you could avoid the overhead of open/read after every execve. < 1335613947 453124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it gets pretty convenient access to the environment execve is passed :P < 1335613952 413149 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, the proof does not use standard recursion theoretic methods, but instead notes that fucking yourself is a bounded time process because nerds come really fast. < 1335613955 757812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ALTERNATIVELY, you could use something that isn't the environment. < 1335613956 418962 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Indeeeeed < 1335613966 41726 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Such as? < 1335614000 810590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hell if I know. How about getting into kernelspace (see a pattern here?) and adding your own execve-like syscall (or flag to an existing syscall) that contains the path to use? < 1335614022 335843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you only have overhead when the capabilities are being explicitly invoked, and always have direct access to the path. < 1335614064 768855 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :execve is, roughly, the least interesting problem here >_> < 1335614232 302433 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-69.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335614330 152712 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-84-107.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1335614343 443114 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-69.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1335615118 73934 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-69.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: lunch < 1335615803 22561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :asdfelliott < 1335615839 654269 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at Oozlybub and Murphy. < 1335615841 465391 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs. < 1335615916 596697 :asdfelliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not absent enough < 1335615933 586052 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're not asdf enough. < 1335615940 941787 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you never can be, because asdfness doesn't exist. < 1335615946 641156 :asdfelliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335615949 782033 :asdfelliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crei < 1335615956 517245 :asdfelliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creibrodos < 1335616346 117964 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. Saying "creibrodos" makes you asdf. < 1335616455 139814 :asdfelliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1335616465 163690 :asdfelliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's *briados < 1335616767 709378 :asdfelliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1335616769 642783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :absentswett: i lost my asdf < 1335616895 179258 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheibriados? < 1335616917 986307 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks whether he remembered it correctly… apparently yes. < 1335616934 287352 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Known as Chei by friends. < 1335617090 128604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy laughs at chei so i laugh at chei too < 1335617092 575021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"soldairtty" < 1335617126 767247 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-139-119.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335617327 591530 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy plotted an assassination of the president so i plotted an assassination of the president too. < 1335617355 283332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"soldairtty" < 1335617953 617257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: THEY INVENTED BERATEAHBLE AIR < 1335618192 341305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You answered this question within like 3 mins of asking which may as well be the time taken to type it. I saw it and was like "hey a Haskell question that I can answer and to which no one has answered yet, bring the rep train", and I go typing the answer when a new answer appears from an 20k rep guy telling just what I was about to say. You, experts, should really leave some questions alone for guys like us... :) – CodingTales 58 mi < 1335618192 451672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ns ago < 1335618329 883523 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1335618350 762531 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who implemented BERATEAHBLE air? < 1335618369 446768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elephant < 1335618890 174951 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335619040 122369 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1335619989 378024 :azaq23!~derivecto@HSI-KBW-37-49-5-105.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335619989 939939 :azaq23!~derivecto@HSI-KBW-37-49-5-105.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Changing host < 1335619990 12372 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335621494 652766 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-185-147.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335621604 50290 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-49-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1335621604 159811 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-49-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1335621604 159970 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1335621633 145861 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335621894 780188 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-69.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335621897 644172 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1335621910 408607 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hevd < 1335621910 935657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335622285 714235 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DF45.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335622628 715688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"@CodingTales: The '20k brigade' tends to give rather succinct answers" < 1335622631 53112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1335622632 643526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20k brigade < 1335622651 860471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also, you can set up email notifications for the haskell tag, and I'm sure having well-written explanations of the difference between IO a and a, the layout rule, and the monomorphism restriction at hand in a text file will help you beat them to the punch one day :-)" < 1335622656 182361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1335622657 923619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1335622664 305074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only been doing this for 4 months < 1335622674 24309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not < 1335622675 961601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brigade < 1335622685 225133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: help < 1335622706 219018 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: welcome to brigade < 1335622711 107686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335622791 545535 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION helps < 1335622803 898589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1335622811 851981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im wondering whether to reply to < 1335622817 52550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those two comments or whether to just stay silent < 1335622819 649366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and feed < 1335622821 917921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the conspiracy < 1335622857 629017 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feeding conspiracies is always good. < 1335622883 428026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9050725/call-cc-implementation/9050907#9050907 <-- the 20k brigade tends to give rather succinct answers < 1335622887 492134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing i wrote that before i had 20k < 1335623362 924532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4943 what a bug report < 1335623789 404304 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335624151 182459 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our problem is that those reports are being used by investment houses to make decisions sometimes worth billions, and we just cannot have those decisions made against wrong numbers." < 1335624401 889726 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it's pretty sad < 1335624470 369862 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard anecdotes about how you can't use fixed point even if you wanted to, because everybody expects the floating point level of accuracy... < 1335624617 205129 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-69.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1335624718 453248 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335624846 154057 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335624883 441914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 20k bridge. < 1335625302 599377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's made of fire. < 1335625553 336390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[It is currently permitted to define non-strictly-positive datatypes, such as < 1335625553 408816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Bad = bad {Bad -> Bad} but don’t bet on that staying alive!]] < 1335625559 520263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who would have guessed the owner of strictlypositive.org doesn't like those? < 1335625640 897932 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Last edited by GregorR, in a few seconds" < 1335625641 615305 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_O < 1335625674 791300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's what you get when using FeatherWiki. < 1335625691 356477 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also what you get when using GitHub's wiki, apparently. < 1335625707 383486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What do you think that's coded in? < 1335625714 27847 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-8 < 1335625862 15350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Do you have an opinion on the quote identifier issue? < 1335625953 322657 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :" is the best identifier. < 1335626007 514310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Thanks, I think. < 1335626056 219601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is currently one built-in signature, declared as if < 1335626056 292109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sig Console = ouch Char | inch [] Char" < 1335626065 349306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We really must do something about McBride's naming. < 1335627380 217728 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1335627522 260169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like Taneb < 1335627544 165489 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything needs to be more like Taneb < 1335627552 138594 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for Taneb < 1335627563 585503 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that person on TVTropes called Tanebi < 1335627655 607773 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1335629502 19484 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1335629513 592381 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1335630806 926335 :thomas____!~thomas@151.57.220.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335630835 568616 :thomas____!~thomas@151.57.220.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :motd < 1335630999 392868 :thomas____!~thomas@151.57.220.98 PART :#esoteric < 1335631035 963864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :motd < 1335631044 763150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :motd | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1335632194 253970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm not too surprised the two languages are basically neck-and-neck here (a 10% difference is not noteworthy). Using C as a performance benchmark, Haskell loses some performance for its lazy functional nature, while Python loses some performance due to being an interpreted language. A decent match." < 1335632210 151770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao @ python users thinking that haskell has anything close to cpython's overhead < 1335632250 522988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Do you know what happened when user put sleep(1) in the middle of their tight loop? < 1335632260 693532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: There was no statistically significant change in execution time. < 1335632270 610480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*when a Python user < 1335632274 174653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO FUCKED THAT UP < 1335632421 422995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Python is really optimized for this sort of thing. I suspect that Haskell isn't." YEAH PYTHON IS REALLY OPTIMISED FOR READING A FILE OF NUMERIC DATA AND QUICKSORTING IT < 1335632433 554901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HASKELL IS OPTIMISED SOLELY FOR OPERATING WITH < 1335632434 433694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PURE < 1335632435 845081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAW < 1335632436 550666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUNCTIONS < 1335632439 910270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why it's a functional language. < 1335632463 550506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(More like pure "boring"ctional, right?) < 1335632468 444862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is so boring without shachaf. < 1335632470 93928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1335632929 559004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335632934 321697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY THEFT IS NON-OPTIONAL!!! < 1335633472 420756 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: where did you find that python vs haskell thingy? < 1335633494 143347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid answers to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10357663/python-faster-than-compiled-haskell. < 1335634795 560281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wrote a Frank program. < 1335634807 198059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's great! < 1335635765 608139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335635818 748118 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Python is really optimized for this sort of thing. I suspect that Haskell isn't.” < 1335636074 659891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what sort of thing? < 1335636161 363411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I just quoted that! < 1335636680 690670 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, sorry, i only looked at the lines from the last ~hour. < 1335636822 382183 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just" is certainly within the last hour ... < 1335636949 455367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "just" never ends. < 1335636971 365387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Don't you wish your compiler gave errors like these? < 1335636973 167259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Line ([PN "test"],RA [RN "throw",RN "inch",RBang]) (Raw () (RA [RN "throw",RN "inch",RBang]) (UnifyVFail {[Console, Throws Char, ] Char} Char)) < 1335636984 503067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one's better though: < 1335636985 773593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Line ([PN "main"],RQ (RA [RN "catch",RTh [([PN "a"],RA [RN "outch",RCh '!',RN ">>",RN "a"])]]) (RA [RN "throw",RCh 'a',RN ">>",RCh 'x'])) (Raw Char (RQ (RA [RN "catch",RTh [([PN "a"],RA [RN "outch",RCh '!',RN ">>",RN "a"])]]) (RA [RN "throw",RCh 'a',RN ">>",RCh 'x'])) (Raw {?0 -> [] ?1} (RTh [([PN "a"],RA [RN "outch",RCh '!',RN ">>",RN "a"])]) (Raw ?1 (RA [RN "outch",RCh '!',RN ">>",RN "a"]) (Cockup "oops")))) < 1335636992 25488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cockup "oops" indeed. < 1335637145 840716 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335637156 369188 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, '(Cockup "oops")' < 1335637160 633704 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's amazing. < 1335637301 347201 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-185-147.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335637333 437930 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-185-147.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335637607 147216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Hey, remind me to update that answer again. < 1335637607 502128 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335637733 394535 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-185-147.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1335638355 559236 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335639923 728974 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/hs2bf < 1335639926 818062 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found an interesting little thing. < 1335639976 466226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that a while ago too. < 1335639978 406623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty impressive. < 1335639984 297660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... not Haskell, though. < 1335639987 882737 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DF45.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335640004 441485 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the problem? < 1335640013 200674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's just plain not. :p < 1335640023 481411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a restricted language that vaguely resembles Haskell. < 1335640029 657257 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1335640031 128525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, it might be an actual subset.) < 1335640728 730551 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335640892 723947 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-128-169.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335641076 66910 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-139-119.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1335641223 143251 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-136-69.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335641391 841834 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-128-169.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1335641786 963538 :old!~old@151.60.200.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335642073 234433 :old!~old@151.60.200.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1335642231 151108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi old < 1335642585 745921 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B1319AE.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335642649 186617 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-155-179.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335642817 925114 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-136-69.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1335643429 183122 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-249-127.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335643556 87873 :Ulfalizer!~ulf@c-f4c0e455.026-504-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1335643580 283778 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-230-172.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1335644137 381387 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335644145 439581 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1335644393 307614 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1335644484 712331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335644711 547453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335644714 159409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Ulfalizer < 1335644718 424822 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ulfalizer: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1335644743 695443 :Ulfalizer!~ulf@c-f4c0e455.026-504-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks :) < 1335644955 121107 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DF45.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335645753 910262 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1335646718 452993 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1335646735 362359 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PART :#esoteric < 1335646824 233396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is called if you have a functor which is bijective on objects but not necessarily bijective on morphisms? < 1335646871 946468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fred < 1335646886 769445 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, definately fred < 1335646920 875719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fred? < 1335646928 816233 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1335646962 273230 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fred < 1335646962 608607 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1335646965 121157 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1335646983 461038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy!!!! < 1335646986 494270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1335646987 179169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just < 1335646988 320107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a normal hi < 1335646988 990355 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sebi is an infamous startscummer < 1335646995 301897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335646997 157762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad sebi < 1335646998 979584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they feel bad < 1335647009 454100 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc sebi likes startscumming < 1335647009 832317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone messaged them "hi" < 1335647015 251114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't matter!! < 1335647020 416118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need to be "hi"d all the same < 1335647025 491958 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i see sebi i'll hi them < 1335647028 306727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1335647031 123336 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sebi's on right now < 1335647062 978350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sebi < 1335647063 161409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Legendary start scummer who has dethroned Meow in terms of quitting|leaving. Personally responsible for over half of all games ended by leaving the dungeon. < 1335647063 233892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Responsible for 7.33% of all online Crawl games. < 1335647064 572758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Responsible for 48.56% of all wanderers played online. < 1335647066 699520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow sebi wow < 1335647067 249924 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Your messages: < 1335647067 458475 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Squarelos: hi < 1335647067 636563 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Enter note: hi < 1335647071 959255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335647080 515230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that settles it < 1335647083 326966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow they use bigterm too < 1335647087 144521 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335647088 138246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sebi "satan for our times" < 1335647092 932003 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugeterm, as they call it < 1335647101 777135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats difference < 1335647107 50064 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B1319AE.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1335647109 335682 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugeterm has huge in it, rather than big < 1335647112 498518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335647113 257806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i see < 1335647120 781791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at first i thought that everyone playing crawl must use a big terminal < 1335647121 424763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1335647124 514991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the viewport is so small < 1335647125 425353 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Startscumming occurs in Crawl? < 1335647146 140360 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How big is the variation in starting equipment? < 1335647146 531292 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: stats used to be startscummable, wanderers and entry vaults are still startscummable < 1335647151 601810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you can't "hi" this guy properly because he isn't startscumming right now :( < 1335647155 78949 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335647161 326438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could hi him < 1335647162 412528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :every single game < 1335647164 147079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :while scumming < 1335647166 574950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the ultimate weapon" < 1335647169 294112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how are stats not startscummable now? not random?) < 1335647197 633144 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: even the most respectable crawl players will quit on some of the really stupid entry vaults, like there's one that makes you hack through a bunch of plants at the start < 1335647216 281573 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :entry vaults? < 1335647220 915166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's easy < 1335647223 335011 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're vaults? < 1335647223 947410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just berk them < 1335647226 458575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've done it it works < 1335647229 823750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335647230 837291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the entry < 1335647232 954113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but berking plants in general < 1335647238 844414 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: what < 1335647243 310543 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: vault is a technical term in crawl < 1335647247 841432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Sgeo_ doesn't play crawl he just < 1335647248 902498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :talks about it < 1335647252 64209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335647257 604639 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I play Crawl... just not very much < 1335647266 70783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent seen any evidence yet!!!! < 1335647270 272970 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're bad at it < 1335647282 574191 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, not denying that < 1335647298 442354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo you haven't played online in a year < 1335647300 586079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: calling sgeo bad is an insult to my badness < 1335647303 753510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335647307 816239 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, which server? < 1335647309 507119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i get to say that now that i've survived lots of turns < 1335647313 160084 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335647314 412079 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1335647315 649998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*40k < 1335647317 197946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i wasn't sure) < 1335647317 769023 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your high score was a year ago < 1335647318 664787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how many turns) < 1335647321 455985 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot i did !hs not !lg < 1335647327 960399 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: your hs is better than sgeo's hs < 1335647341 807065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:08 !hs elliott < 1335647341 879583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:08 92. elliott the Impaler (L15 DsAK), worshipper of Lugonu, blasted by Aizul (poison arrow) on D:17 on 2012-04-26, with 84580 points after 43254 turns and 3:34:58. < 1335647341 879771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:08 !hs sgeo < 1335647343 334999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:08 32. Sgeo the Cutter (L8 SpAs), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, shot by a centaur (runed arrow) on D:6 on 2011-03-26, with 1131 points after 8739 turns and 1:24:53. < 1335647348 107472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow sgeo please tell me you haven't taken any advice ever < 1335647364 465439 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1335647366 245689 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my first encounter with sgeo was helping him with a mfie < 1335647372 753543 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335647373 733498 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was before I joined #esoteric < 1335647379 745500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats mfie im so bad at the shorthands < 1335647385 47005 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :merfolk ice elementalist < 1335647400 19435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also what's as) < 1335647429 792356 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...my HS isn't my TrBe? < 1335647434 881174 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assassin < 1335647443 200206 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall playing a SpAs < 1335647447 942305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:10 !hs sebi < 1335647448 14791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:10 45742. Sebi the Sorcerer (L22 DEWn), worshipper of Sif Muna, shot by a deep elf master archer (arrow of frost) on Elf:5 (elf hall gauntlet narrow) on 2011-01-25, with 345859 points after 132579 turns and 38:02:00. < 1335647449 462429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that < 1335647450 273151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :38 hours < 1335647453 828065 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335647456 810034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait 132.5k TURNS?? < 1335647459 683190 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1335647461 448033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1335647462 259101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :many turns < 1335647466 50029 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Client Quit < 1335647468 996725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that like < 1335647472 622206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :way more than most ascensions < 1335647473 595800 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :132579 turns isn't really a lot. < 1335647475 530708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335647477 299968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1335647480 336198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i saw another digit there < 1335647482 766261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where there wasn't one < 1335647483 630324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bad if you're aiming for turncount but < 1335647485 909751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively < 1335647490 692626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed a digit in ascension turn counts < 1335647499 597083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people ascend in that timeframe and i guess it's decent if you don't care about turncount < 1335647541 708795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that means i was like 29% towards ascending < 1335647547 37739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"theoretically" < 1335647551 708321 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what gets you shamed is if your turncount exceeds 200000 (the bots will give you a special pseudotitle "Farming") < 1335647560 249771 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1335647572 832819 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :132.5k turns is approximately one turn per second average over 38h < 1335647580 621968 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is any farming possible in Crawl? < 1335647583 271210 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most turns take less than a second < 1335647586 723072 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: there are infinite branches < 1335647595 300140 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right < 1335647602 611434 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1335647602 834297 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: and some other ways of farming too, most of which have been tamed a bit < 1335647607 368788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no not infinite branches < 1335647610 6707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those make me feel uneasy < 1335647614 624751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not kidding < 1335647615 727106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its wrong < 1335647618 114255 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :( < 1335647619 552713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my roguelike wouldn't have those < 1335647621 344087 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not infinite number of branches. Branches that are infinity size. < 1335647623 601966 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1335647624 15952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1335647624 669207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just < 1335647631 599731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :geometrically it upsets me < 1335647636 139933 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: also some other ridiculous ways of farming but all of them that i can think of got fixed :( < 1335647643 274914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if they don't remember so that you can go < 1335647643 906505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>< < 1335647645 839328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see something different < 1335647648 688313 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, don't ever try the maze in worlds.com < 1335647650 859823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's existential horror < 1335647660 162817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not kidding that makes me really uneasy < 1335647671 183165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why ADOM made me sad :( < 1335647691 856472 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: like i made up one where you could get infinite powerful allies by way of polymorphing a powerful unique into a jelly, splitting it, repolying into something cool, and permataming (permataming was removed) < 1335647693 972057 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Worlds is the only 3d space I know of offhand where good nonsensical mazes are possible < 1335647715 335967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it doesn't count until it involves puddings < 1335647715 995412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Going up and down stairs to see something different is only in the infinite dungeon (and in areas with multiple staircases), in ADOM. < 1335647738 122404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also do you really need the Farmer title punishment; the farming I know is generally considered to constitute its own punishment < 1335647743 921762 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: and someone else found one where if you took uniques with you out of the abyss so they used it with a unique that stole your items to clone items < 1335647750 861902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would < 1335647751 885085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote the quote < 1335647756 828068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i suspect you've heard it < 1335647760 87711 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335647766 867556 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you took uniques with you out of the abyss" what < 1335647771 865969 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You forgot part of something < 1335647778 355384 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What quote? < 1335647798 813662 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :put unique in abyss, find unique, find exit, get unique next to you, exit abyss, unique follows you but also stays in abyss < 1335647801 868180 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it was fixed < 1335647810 593999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: "The DevTeam has arranged an automatic and savage punishment for pudding farming. It's called pudding farming." < 1335647815 363372 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1335647841 664927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it's better with the line before it on the wiki page < 1335647846 293836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you shouldn't be allowed to duplicate uniques using any methods whatsoever. They have to make it so that all such things fail regardless of what tries to trigger it < 1335647847 797253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At 16 October 2006, the Shrewd Dude posted a guide, How to Raise the Perfect Pudding. In 13 years, players have invented many strategies for more effective pudding farms, but they have also become bored. Jove stated in reply, "The DevTeam has arranged an automatic and savage punishment for pudding farming. It's called pudding farming."" < 1335647847 990364 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most farming in crawl is either (a) performed by people who don't know that it's not worth it (b) people who like doing ridiculous farming and exploits < 1335647855 298596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"but they have also become bored" :') < 1335647917 173771 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right there was another farming style I co-discovered where for a brief period if you used sticks to snakes and polymorphed the snakes you would get permaallies < 1335647949 915967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you "co-discover" things like that < 1335647952 382802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a one-step process to me < 1335648009 323658 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I discovered the snakes being nonsummons and someone else went from that and discovered that polymorphing them made them not disappear < 1335648023 376560 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also get food from arrows by killing your snakes < 1335648071 437396 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's any equivalent of pudding farming in crawl < 1335648076 15886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did sebi die < 1335648083 979940 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1335648089 305094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1335648096 514430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't kilobyte a dev < 1335648101 698772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335648111 32665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're using a bigterm :( i don't understand anything any more < 1335648146 315115 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kilobyte is well-known for hugeterm, hating square los, and being disconnected from reality < 1335648171 855675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow thy're bad < 1335648173 475312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*they're < 1335648185 913731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone hate squarelos actually i can think of one (1) reason < 1335648223 893655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reason 1 out of 1: it's a bit uglier highlighted-squares-wise than a circle < 1335648241 888959 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of squarelos hate is either "aesthetics" or "realism" but imo squarelos is aesthetically better and "realism" doesn't count (alternatively, squarelos is more realistic) < 1335648257 483828 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots/most/all? < 1335648274 120175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there are some gameplay arguments but they're all dumb and squarelos is much better gameplaywise < 1335648287 890779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant actually tell which is more realistic bceause < 1335648292 37427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the real world people dont have 3d eyes < 1335648295 728114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is more realistic help < 1335648380 851995 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in crawl the geometry is more chebyshev than euclidean, so if you want a circle it should be a square < 1335648405 367656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont really < 1335648408 856163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ $// < 1335648412 586344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :understand crawl's geometry < 1335648415 833994 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1335648417 318510 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :inconsistent < 1335648419 255550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vagrant has a consistent geometry < 1335648446 735262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's manhattan where you can jump diagonally (because you have diagonal rockets on your shoes) < 1335648461 734693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also so does everyone else) < 1335648480 840886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the diagonal rockets just fly up, and then go and to end up diagonally < 1335648483 311115 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like movement and everything uses chebyshev distance but things like los and targeting etc try to be euclidean < 1335648483 705073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just don't see it < 1335648489 186644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is this allowed) < 1335648494 663042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :squarelos is still inconsistent but imo it's a better compromise than the status quo < 1335648515 408531 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :manhattan with diagonal rockets??? < 1335648521 96835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335648535 598300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i don't quite see how movement could use euclidean < 1335648538 450903 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so effectively movement uses chebyshev distance but everything else is manhattan? < 1335648546 303069 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there have been attempts to emulate it < 1335648555 89199 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: like making diagonal moves cost more < 1335648566 675085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh < 1335648570 476083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that wouldn't actually make it euclidean but < 1335648571 994173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when do diagonals cost more in euclidean space < 1335648582 466642 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're moving more distance < 1335648590 14217 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you're on a square grid < 1335648605 92323 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really hate the idea of making diagonal moves cost more < 1335648608 964904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's uhhhh < 1335648616 754227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really understand how that's euclidean at all < 1335648618 526118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like < 1335648622 942798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :implying walls around each tile somehow < 1335648623 335012 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretend-euclidean < 1335648626 281842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you can open < 1335648635 743892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to go south-west or whatever to go sw < 1335648643 578562 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1335648645 814911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1335648646 715880 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 turns per diagonal move it < 1335648647 423802 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1335648649 183875 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1335648651 219433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but i mean < 1335648652 816597 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget the number < 1335648653 875781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that make it more euclidean at all < 1335648662 337833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seriously don't understand in the slightest < 1335648759 350013 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then if you moved the same euclidean distance in any direction the times would be more uniform than with like chebyshevstyle where you can move euclidean distances faster going diagonally < 1335648786 818779 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right there was a ridiculous argument about how moving diagonally is "optimal" and you might as well "rip out" your orthogonal movement keys < 1335648791 392852 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by kilobyte iirc) < 1335648811 479049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand has < 1335648814 88274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kilobyte seen a corridor < 1335648825 485612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1335648830 649577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me about hexcrawl < 1335648838 654006 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl on a hex grid < 1335648843 780831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew that much < 1335648847 131899 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never played it < 1335648855 744662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it still exist < 1335648857 133066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where can i get it < 1335648858 486442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :google is useless < 1335648863 901459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it terminal-based < 1335648867 937408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it as amazing as i imagine < 1335648878 868965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i saw a screenshot of it once < 1335648894 879927 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if my memory serves me, it was terminalbased with lots of spacing between tiles to get the hex effect < 1335648947 756820 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey < 1335648949 537263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do i get it < 1335648951 343269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commits/hexcrawl < 1335648953 479177 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's it < 1335648961 35960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1335648969 489662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw sigh ais523 < 1335648977 692608 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1335648986 110053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ais523 is the reason crawl stuff is on gitorius < 1335648988 388413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what are you sighing at? < 1335648989 995246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like gitorius < 1335648994 441811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pain to use < 1335648995 993601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus my sigh < 1335649000 53012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can't possibly dislike it more than I dislike github < 1335649010 723215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but i don't care how much you dislike the site crawl's code is on < 1335649054 999050 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care about crawl code site oh wait there is something that really bothers me about gitorious but i forget what it is < 1335649149 994345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you compile crawl < 1335649187 780003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah cd source && make < 1335649201 933397 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will play Dungeons&Dragons game soon I have to best some demon (or maybe they are human; I am unsure); I have some idea, but the floor is not slanted and our party seem not sufficient, and this castle is near nowhere... I do have a few other ideas though < 1335649239 445290 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might have to do git submodule update --init i forget if tthat's required for the first time you build it < 1335649256 895750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you do that if you're compiling on Windows or some other system that doesn't have the dependencies < 1335649260 233138 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1335649263 962331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes and downloads the depenencies for you < 1335649264 819938 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the guide so < 1335649273 822048 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the compile guide) < 1335649282 208995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is an ancient branch so < 1335649323 153179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what los does hexcrawl have < 1335649324 864898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it hex < 1335649327 928753 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1335649354 700972 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335649355 696931 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elliott since when do diagonals cost more in euclidean space" ? < 1335649356 1376 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1335649370 877934 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1335649373 636142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ask monqy i still don't understand < 1335649375 746500 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey :D < 1335649415 217279 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i think the idea is that say you have a grid like < 1335649416 954065 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1335649418 253868 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1335649421 165069 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're on the bolded dot < 1335649437 503376 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can move up or up-right < 1335649452 372606 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of those tiles have a chebyshev distance of 1 from you < 1335649467 265714 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the up upright tile has a longer euclidean distance than the up tile does < 1335649473 709486 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"monqy I think my first encounter with sgeo was helping him with a mfie" i read "with his wife" and o_O < 1335649501 320907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it does? < 1335649523 958041 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine those points form a right triangle < 1335649532 462747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1335649536 963997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, that's ugly < 1335649539 73825 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335649540 155310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, about euclidean distance < 1335649542 462890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so unintuitive < 1335649546 521071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should fix that < 1335649588 728471 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the universe euclidean? < 1335649592 565158 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think taking longer to diagonal is implemented but you have to enable it explicitly with some odd compiletime flag < 1335652050 702560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335652057 283857 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335652058 975597 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335652064 755083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!! < 1335652065 503139 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops what have i done < 1335652068 145376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't make hi a thing again < 1335652068 327119 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have < 1335652069 68729 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we done < 1335652070 222075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's ok < 1335652072 478885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was Ngevd < 1335652077 514919 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that time when we all changed our names to monqy and said hi < 1335652078 370171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you & i were just regular hiing < 1335652083 18860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that was < 1335652085 480149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a low point in history for us < 1335652086 20364 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1335652089 31329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though we did not realise it at the time < 1335652097 276954 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will now go away in shame < 1335652101 512724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: it's ok just realise that monqy is going to take some time to be over the shadow of the hi misuse he has suffered < 1335652103 403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's okay < 1335652106 260552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not your fault we all suffered < 1335652413 443046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wow, Bob Harper actually codes Haskell? < 1335652426 373194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've never heard of him < 1335652430 309823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /seriously/? < 1335652431 345788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can go laugh at my ignorance now if you like < 1335652438 684977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does http://existentialtype.wordpress.com/ ring a bell? < 1335652439 952401 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't he the uh < 1335652441 392860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1335652446 747610 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which guy is he < 1335652447 726115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a rather famous ML guy < 1335652451 252870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who takes potshots at Haskell every now and then < 1335652456 448338 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335652469 551492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's good but < 1335652476 728937 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in combinatorics we often consider the angle of observation < 1335652477 2434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't take good potshots of a language without knowing quite a bit about how to write in it < 1335652482 76838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's pretty much a troll when it comes to haskell in the non-(annoying-4chan-sense) < 1335652485 958954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fix parens < 1335652491 156600 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mytrainerbob.com/ < 1335652494 822610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I have edited a PHP file before now, but only the HTML bits that were embedded in it, so it doesn't count < 1335652527 90620 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let parens s = "(" ++ s ++ ")" in fix parens < 1335652528 659010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((... < 1335652539 877758 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, i accidentally made lambdabot generate lisp. < 1335652546 692159 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1335652554 140356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: apparently he's the origin of the "Haskell is my favourite imperative language" thing < 1335652556 869552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1335652572 786292 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow mine too < 1335652596 493264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let minimum n = "`" ++ n ++ n in fix minimum < 1335652598 152812 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````... < 1335652616 472019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not mine!!!! < 1335652647 866884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bob harper wrote that < 1335652651 395956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really good article on boolean blindness < 1335652700 308368 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also damn that mathematician is smug, "i looked a bit more closely than regular people, because i know ergodic theory and advanced applied combinatorics" < 1335652720 19451 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is my favorite array-oriented data-driven audio/database programming language. < 1335652723 102084 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :disclaimer: he never actually said that < 1335652740 277496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: sounds like something you would say < 1335652767 412037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you hate booleans, right? < 1335652770 934574 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335652779 844616 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Bool = False | True | FileNotFound < 1335652789 76774 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/search?q=awesome < 1335652793 805931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what makes you think I hate booleans? < 1335652800 724592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: how many years in the past do you live < 1335652803 134987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: all reasonable people do < 1335652816 288531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://github.com/search?q=epic < 1335652820 861858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm getting trolled, but am not sure how < 1335652829 372326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there's too much phone bullshit there < 1335652830 815196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough horrible < 1335652834 791500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, I'm completely sincere < 1335652859 396961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what specifically do you mean? you think people shouldn't use them, or you're upset that they exist, or what? < 1335652865 135374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: VHDL has nine-valued booleans < 1335652871 63863 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I just came back from fighting the Great War. Why? < 1335652871 421761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they shouldn't be used 99% of the time they are used < 1335652893 829695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think they should probably not be in standard libraries < 1335652896 654874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmm, that's likely true due to Sturgeon's Law, but doesn't it apply to other data types too? < 1335652905 845986 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whit537 / assertEquals (Python) < 1335652907 797824 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :An epic testing interface for Python < 1335652913 811656 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“assertEquals” does sound epic. < 1335652947 883039 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ;.; < 1335652949 119743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the thing that used to be called "testosterone" but then someone went "ugh" and he changed it < 1335652953 480963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good judgement person" < 1335652966 276073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only it was a jQuery library < 1335652970 527170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rockstar-ninja-balls < 1335652979 806733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sounds like your aim is hecked < 1335652986 289248 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A port of Twython to Server Side Javascript (Node.js). Beautifully fun non-blocking Twitter API calls for epic win. < 1335652994 754861 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION murder rampage < 1335652995 677280 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Great War reminds me, has anyone missed the Salad Fingers series? < 1335653013 276174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/search?utf8=✓&q=%22epic+win%22&repo=&langOverride=&start_value=1&type=Everything&language= why doesn't this return more results < 1335653015 805346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more horrible, horrible results < 1335653037 373220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1335653039 922141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmers awful, news at 11 < 1335653076 934974 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start from http://www.fat-pie.com/salad.htm < 1335653111 352285 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m here to inquire about your spooooooons. < 1335653149 931028 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elliott oklopol: sounds like something you would say" yeah but when i say it it's not quite as smug as when regular people say it. < 1335653170 50068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: anyway no github search result can compare to any popular stupid fucking github issue or commit or whatever < 1335653179 59109 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah? < 1335653179 150558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all the fucking meme images in the comments < 1335653180 277349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uugh < 1335653202 343266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHA U POWND THIS EPIC FAIL OF SECURITY BUG [I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE SECURITY BUGS / BUT WHEN I DO THEY'RE FROM PHP!!!] < 1335653218 93928 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::picard hand on face: < 1335653258 212987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY GUYS WHEN I PUT COMMENTS HERE DOES IT SHOW IT TO THE TWO PEOPLE ACTUALLY RELEVANT TO THIS BUG OR IS IT JUST TO REDDIT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TALK PAST THE FORMER < 1335653263 737456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this is too much cynicism < 1335653271 348685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to go < 1335653274 387853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be happy or something < 1335653314 292121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think software developers cling to this sort of zany internet lolrandom shite because they are afraid of becoming soulless corporate drones < 1335653317 823685 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they somehow think this is better < 1335653325 720401 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I never got to sample the delights of your flavor. < 1335653349 600102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i blame the dot com bubble < 1335653349 782638 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :soulless meme drones < 1335653399 304073 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :github founders explicitly acknowledge this < 1335653399 797849 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://37signals.blogs.com/products/2008/07/how-github-used.html < 1335653409 810914 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Need to show a "this page is loading" message for background operations? Make it funny. "Forking" (copying) a repository takes a while and our "Hardcore Forking Action" loading screen has become infamous among users. Adding a bit of spice into things that are normally bland, boring, and unexciting goes a long way. You are not Bank of America or any other faceless mega corporation - showing your creative side in unorthodox places is the bes < 1335653415 737747 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES HOW CREATIVE < 1335653421 771591 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW UNORTHODOX < 1335653425 598800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit let me check my schedule for how much time i have to read some shit the github creators wrote on 37signals' blog < 1335653429 10862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKKK IT'S 0 TIME < 1335653435 939280 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is making a new interpreter :D < 1335653450 268011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: every time I see "hardcore forking action" after forking something i'm just uuuuuugh < 1335653450 846082 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're really "picking a fight" and "getting real" and "insert other cult in-group phrase here" < 1335653451 958794 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: in what language? < 1335653457 144654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's a userscript that makes it go away < 1335653457 614996 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby < 1335653469 567705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it shouldn't be hard to write one < 1335653475 687062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually writing a userscript right now < 1335653481 691992 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: ruby < 1335653482 674352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that'd expose me to it more than I otherwise would be < 1335653486 316591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd be a net loss for /me/ to write one < 1335653491 198516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1335653491 753906 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net TOPIC #esoteric :37 signals guiltied to a zegnatronic rocket society | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1335653805 71379 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the best is when the soulless corporate entity co-opts that impulse < 1335653826 292982 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay google built us a ballpit! they have xkcd painted on the wall! let's work 60 hour weeks! < 1335653857 10250 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, goodnight < 1335653858 311153 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-34.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1335653862 270119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you depressed ngevd < 1335653943 105658 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-155-179.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1335654145 229593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you hate booleans right < 1335654359 930915 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1335654814 418147 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335654825 767636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do people argue about los in the nethack community < 1335655004 26535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, because everyone's happy with the way it works already < 1335655009 553397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is both realistic and consistent < 1335655012 650746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nethack uses squarelos right < 1335655030 152539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it uses unlimited LOS, except for light sources < 1335655041 672769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses circular LOS for light sources, but that becomes relevant so rarely that people don't care < 1335655059 484598 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it use for determining how light rays bend around stuff < 1335655116 384615 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats wrong with my ruby code it errors out: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gerWTStE < 1335655132 326136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: there are four different algorithms in the source code, with different space/time tradeoffs < 1335655146 125235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how any of them work, offhand < 1335655168 547495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1335655178 57114 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1335655182 7831 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of different algorithms < 1335655189 274412 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :while github lets you add a fancy bugtracker to your repo, bugs in github itself are reported by using a web form to send an email into the abyss, Web 1.0 style < 1335655191 97552 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they equivalent < 1335655220 620075 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this is the norm for proprietary hosted web apps < 1335655274 589332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo email abyss but yeah < 1335655310 473465 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i reported a bug on google maps several months ago < 1335655312 98410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : var spans = d.getElementsByTagName('span'); for (var si in spans) { var s = spans[si]; window.alert(s); < 1335655318 471225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(followed by more of the loop) < 1335655324 1686 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no way to check its progress or that they even received it < 1335655329 332072 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than noting that the bug is still not fixed < 1335655331 280508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the alerts I get back from that: three HTMLSpanElements, followed by the literal integer 3 < 1335655334 517522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1335655335 465018 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug is "google has the wrong name for my city" < 1335655336 719857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's not how github issues work... < 1335655345 139507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "for (var" is valid? < 1335655349 529079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1335655355 432113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems misleading < 1335655360 797851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that si persists after the loop, remember < 1335655362 672803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "for my $x ($y) {" in Perl < 1335655362 855253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, please close that } < 1335655365 622981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not lik ethat < 1335655367 642318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*like that < 1335655369 678161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has scope in Perl < 1335655371 436158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is closed, just later on < 1335655375 485001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :close it now!!! < 1335655377 763864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1335655377 946351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's opening the irc channel < 1335655379 921243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1335655392 728873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1335655397 212737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: for (x in y) is sort of unreliable??? < 1335655403 792278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't enumerate an array at all < 1335655404 899247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that you want < 1335655408 761796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for (i = 0; i < foo.length; i++) < 1335655420 288750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, it might have properties other than elements < 1335655421 574792 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do? < 1335655427 46066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it enumerates all properties < 1335655433 323617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and methods < 1335655445 685321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an array is an object which has just numerical properties, which are its elements < 1335655449 356378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1335655520 702639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not just < 1335655525 487699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an array can have more and still be an array afaik < 1335655543 14949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay my code isn't erroring out no < 1335655544 449352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now < 1335655548 7689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo it still isn't working < 1335655567 41171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the alert didn't get called at all < 1335655721 641320 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you know if facing has ever been done well in a roguelike? < 1335655745 121782 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you mentioned your roguelike would have it, iirc < 1335655779 96303 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the Mystery Dungeon series uses it, although only to simplify the controls, it has no game effects < 1335655784 482872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "iirc" he means "elliott told me" < 1335655792 629829 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I think I read it in a log too < 1335655800 286109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, it has exactly one game effect < 1335655805 944820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you miss an attack you step back < 1335655813 491199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a particular IQ skil < 1335655815 319997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*skill < 1335655819 178406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon < 1335655827 999071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like pacman mystery dungeon < 1335655832 612689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even if you're using an attack-around-you skill, you still have a facing, which is used to work out what direction "back" is < 1335655862 156408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this came up after i came up with the best crawl-with-a-different-geometry derivative ever < 1335655864 557968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after hexcrawl < 1335655879 186700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better than hexcrawl, it just came after hexcrawl < 1335655883 254598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1335655884 440760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eucrawl < 1335655886 619646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl in full euclidean space < 1335655886 711297 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only roguelike I can recall seeing with facing was some stealthbased 7drl but it was really clunky since it took a turn to face so moving around was annoying < 1335655891 832958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed-point < 1335655892 539195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just rendered onto a discrete grid < 1335655899 427065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can turn in fine increments and it rotates the game world < 1335655908 948615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :inconsistent geometry problem: solved < 1335655912 469813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I'd make facing usually free, unless inflicted with a status change that makes it cost turns < 1335655940 809083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in eucrawl i'd probably just make h and l rotate and jk step forwards/back < 1335655973 71006 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it'll be hell to move around < 1335655975 198867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and facing would be so that turning 360 degrees takes one turn < 1335655975 744350 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1335655978 384870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itd' < 1335655984 452208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like < 1335655994 674036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/360 except more because i wouldn't let you face in arbitrary degree rotations probably < 1335655999 645932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn < 1335656000 49884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1335656001 704174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*turns < 1335656016 294880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well i could also make it use the mouse for that < 1335656024 142561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then clicking could fire a projectile weapon < 1335656032 669043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, what did right-click do in doom? < 1335656036 157389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and mouse wheel would cycle through weapons < 1335656078 256828 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven;t played doom :( maybe I should < 1335656092 982351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/doom/any fps/ < 1335656102 950013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: doom is pretty fun but it's also < 1335656103 589896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard < 1335656109 286528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it's so long since I wrote JavaScript < 1335656113 132047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep confusing it with other languages < 1335656114 943466 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought i heard it was easy < 1335656115 555797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also it's < 1335656122 295548 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who should i believe D: < 1335656123 539530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: really weird if you've played any more moderner fpses < 1335656126 327201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1335656129 82549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jumping? nope sorry < 1335656129 676360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even remember the bits of the API that aren't the DOM < 1335656134 267865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's tiny tiny ledges you just < 1335656137 103800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to walk around < 1335656176 522941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up how to tell if a string contains another string, case-insensitively < 1335656193 463777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow MDN is taking a long time to load < 1335656201 127706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its all the mozilla < 1335656206 35678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternative joke < 1335656209 55862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre using serverside firefox < 1335656210 67062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternative joke < 1335656212 665962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dgdfjgdfgkdlghdfklgjfdhgsklgdjkhfgj < 1335656247 972880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hcaey ou played wolfenstein 3d < 1335656253 383657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even more uhhhh < 1335656254 280957 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no is it good < 1335656265 361760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1335656283 801465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining indexOf and toLowerCase, I guess < 1335656298 172872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1335656306 517371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of that the5k entry < 1335656326 541569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfenstein 5k < 1335656334 121203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i suspect doesn't work any more < 1335656347 569565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed not, at least not in safari < 1335656352 898378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone try http://www.wolf5k.com/wolf5k.html in firefox < 1335656425 739377 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that you guys have magical internet powers, i'm being asked what "that one xkcd is where a stick figure is walking out at night and thinking about meeting people there" < 1335656442 431875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like every xkcd < 1335656454 152650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help i'm going to implement a euclidean roguelike test thing in like two minutes if you don't stop me < 1335656458 233293 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335656462 470964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's going to be in golfed python because that's all i know how to write roguelikes in < 1335656473 807425 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stick figure walks out at night, lectures a strawman about science < 1335656475 431962 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you link the one she means though? < 1335656480 443568 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then performs oral sex on a woman < 1335656499 172330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Javascript have a multilevel continue (i.e. continue a loop that's not the top level one)? Or shall I annoy elliott by using a boolean to simulate one? < 1335656514 58486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no way you can avoid booleans in javascript < 1335656516 988789 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use edwardk's javascript-with-continuations-to-javascript compiler < 1335656518 840452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, OK < 1335656519 14524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one of the many reasons not to use javascript < 1335656535 957781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm writing a Greasemonkey script, not like I have much choice < 1335656537 852706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't totally avoid them in Haskell either, although I do a good job of it < 1335656652 551034 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1335656668 318027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you see McBride's new language? < 1335656673 241848 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335656682 820107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/~conor/pub/Frank/test.fk < 1335656781 633198 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i cant stop you im have to leave now and also morbidly curious bye have fun < 1335656789 990915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1335656793 953890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1335656795 419343 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Sat Apr 28 16:46:34 2012 < 1335656797 178730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1335656801 832190 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be back sometime < 1335656883 344977 :Aardwolf!~BBQ@124-171.62-188.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1335656893 278943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1335656922 805100 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, one way of putting it is: chebyshev = largest of |x| and |y|; euclidean = square root of x^2 + y^2 < 1335657001 573397 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, dx and dy, i think < 1335657002 916089 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still working on a new interpreter < 1335657242 681701 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming dx and dy are in {-1,0,1} < 1335657251 727917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, convince me not to imppement that < 1335657265 368689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t9o implement what? < 1335657285 622771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 ais523: this came up after i came up with the best crawl-with-a-different-geometry derivative ever < 1335657285 695044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 after hexcrawl < 1335657285 695131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 it's better than hexcrawl, it just came after hexcrawl < 1335657287 204991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 it's < 1335657289 208746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 eucrawl < 1335657290 233065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that < 1335657291 202716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 crawl in full euclidean space < 1335657293 328376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 the only roguelike I can recall seeing with facing was some stealthbased 7drl but it was really clunky since it took a turn to face so moving around was annoying < 1335657295 266879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 fixed-point < 1335657295 445708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you /seen/ Crawl's codebase? < 1335657297 148459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 just rendered onto a discrete grid < 1335657299 301249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 and you can turn in fine increments and it rotates the game world < 1335657301 353046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31 inconsistent geometry problem: solved < 1335657325 699729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, 00:40 monqy: help i'm going to implement a euclidean roguelike test thing in like two minutes if you don't stop me < 1335657331 814729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it wouldn't actually be crawl (im cheating) < 1335657349 522462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that, go for it < 1335657358 690049 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forward is phoenix, backwards is tortoise < 1335657368 803141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'll be _awful!_ < 1335657378 24307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I don't even know if Python has fixed-point numbers in its standard library < 1335657423 177785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335657425 646699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does, but only decimal < 1335657435 735600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ew, the context is global-ish < 1335657439 565815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which it stores the precision < 1335657505 992338 :shubshub!~IceChat9@118-93-190-55.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Quit: OUCH!!! < 1335657515 134700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: actually, I should really use a full vector image as the space < 1335657520 548103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for true euclideanosity < 1335657542 460911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(does discrete euclidean space even make /sense/?)