< 1336348966 178942 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B936.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336349412 465529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:09:15 < Delcan> Crawl loves... it's just misunderstood < 1336349412 819287 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:09:20 < Perryman> hate is love. < 1336349412 837170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:09:25 < Perryman> thats what i tell my girl anyway < 1336349412 837343 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:09:30 < Perryman> did i say that out loud < 1336349412 837416 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:09:33 < monqy> hi < 1336349419 836301 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crawl quality. ##crawlity. < 1336349491 28247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: was that hi as punishment? < 1336349531 289500 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as punishment as it can be without anyone understanding it < 1336349556 408248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, us in #esoteric understand that you mean hi as a threat < 1336349559 658299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ##crawl generally know that? < 1336349573 796933 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1336349605 951480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a threat? < 1336349608 669581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it threaten? < 1336349612 57053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to continue? < 1336349613 670782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a punishment < 1336349619 939894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the sort of thing you threaten < 1336349621 758731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-much like this- < 1336349629 424330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i'd feel ashamed if monqy "hi"d me :( < 1336349649 114307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-I could keep this up for ages- < 1336349655 107714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-It doesn't work if you don't punctuate.- < 1336349665 813682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-it doesn't work as well at least- < 1336349671 574587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-but punctuating is rare on IRC anyway- < 1336349681 452700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im getting bored of brogue im going to play crawl instead < 1336349747 891549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after playing a fixed-viewport game for a while crawl's moving viewport makes me dizzy again oops < 1336349811 32788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa it's awful < 1336350023 791770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help :( < 1336350037 170789 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe triy a different stairs down < 1336350041 773656 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh too late < 1336350042 479312 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: play nh4 < 1336350042 820964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it was the < 1336350049 663026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :viewport i needed help with < 1336350051 35873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: already have < 1336350072 861899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not different enough to nethack for me to play it more yet < 1336350137 947366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: but if ais523 listens to me maybe i will ;) < 1336350220 696325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_You sense Yredelemnul urging you to kill the trapped human. < 1336350223 584082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yred, that's mean :( < 1336350266 840976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that was a bad idea < 1336350299 119628 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1336350309 506478 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh no, a goblin" < 1336350309 687383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk i was expecting yred to < 1336350311 424862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1336350313 511588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reanimate it < 1336350314 605547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1336350315 694053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kill me < 1336350316 848827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1336350331 434672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, undead can worship yred? < 1336350338 283263 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336350343 947730 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yred hates nonliving though < 1336350351 139088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336350356 669845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can worship it but it'll hate you < 1336350360 182436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336350366 587316 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonliving is distinct from undead in crawl < 1336350371 588870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're technical terms) < 1336350382 33614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is nonliving like < 1336350382 648336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plants < 1336350386 54631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336350388 24781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :golems and stuff < 1336350403 69424 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crawl holinesses are natural, plant, undead, nonliving, holy < 1336350416 772565 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(holiness is also a crawl term) < 1336350434 643504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl what are you DOINGe < 1336350445 525514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i worship yred (no) < 1336350458 283902 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey, undead friends. yaey, alley managemtn < 1336350471 879752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey, drain life? < 1336350500 770746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to hear a joke < 1336350510 783106 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love jokes < 1336350513 273416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :orcs < 1336350517 772712 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350528 600955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls ha some more < 1336350532 654750 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336350534 110153 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaah < 1336350554 9192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336350554 696128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350555 855887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the a comes < 1336350557 127434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the hs < 1336350587 83476 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow after playing monqys-crawl crawl levels look so big and empty < 1336350595 655293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to see monqys-crawl :'( < 1336350607 141202 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not ready for the public eye!!! < 1336350617 109875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not public!!! < 1336350635 328851 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was almost going to fix the segfaulting today but then i remembered i had homework < 1336350643 563609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfaulting is part of the monqys-crawl experience!!! < 1336350643 915072 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"man i sure suck at not having that" < 1336350671 749715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl doesn't actually exist you've just put a segfault in some branch of standard crawl code and lied about the rest "my prediction" < 1336350694 250619 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noo!!! < 1336350711 197510 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of segfaults ! < 1336350714 266200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have < 1336350714 950118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1336350715 805630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reason < 1336350718 18655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to believe you!!!! < 1336350729 33572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey, i can go berserk < 1336350729 883445 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336350737 667183 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good joke eliot < 1336350740 43869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill go berserk over monqy's LIES < 1336350742 846307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336350743 348587 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336350754 130346 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's the command to find out what my internet interfaces are < 1336350757 142216 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Someone should make a roguelike where you have to try to win by avoiding actual segfaults. < 1336350776 811596 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll termcast monqys-crawl once I get some of the segfaultiness ironed out < 1336350797 299346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you telling me that segfaults wouldn't make a termcast at least 67.4% more amusing < 1336350809 770689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sorry but i just cant condone your heretical views < 1336350810 429297 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what is the betterness of monqys-crawl? < 1336350813 669541 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :±0.1% < 1336350814 908672 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: segfault likelihood increases quickly as you descend < 1336350824 776651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's even funnier!!! < 1336350827 186855 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's not really a serious branch < 1336350828 632577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::''( < 1336350838 112466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's unserious? < 1336350838 862036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfaults < 1336350843 458641 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=/ < 1336350850 538033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going on crawl strike until i see monqys-crawl "taking a stand for freedom" < 1336350857 748411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"with peer pressure" < 1336350865 607376 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh fiiiiiiine < 1336350874 966731 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1336350876 15353 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see i if i remember how to do this < 1336350882 989585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can tell you if you want < 1336350885 474999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1336350886 120345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336350889 858745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 what's the termcast oneliner < 1336350893 546693 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i have it < 1336350900 147161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336350903 283231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ratry_login < 1336350904 176937 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just forget how to type < 1336350906 25739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't need to know any more < 1336350911 382171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: this happens to me also < 1336350912 521136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be hilarious if this works ;) < 1336350916 873630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* :) < 1336350935 637428 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336350943 95370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350944 910912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350945 560839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ratry_login < 1336350946 476347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350947 446307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350949 39817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350954 812995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it may have just been the HackEgo startup bug < 1336350955 209996 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350956 146953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its so funny i cant survive help :( < 1336350956 480939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350957 99173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350961 315516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350961 315649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1336350961 315897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350962 134895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im dying < 1336350964 184869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350966 137600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350968 200393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350970 440600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im ded < 1336350970 496176 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-08-29.txt:22:22:02: script -f >( cat ./ratry_login - | nc -q5 noway.ratry.ru 31337 > /dev/null ) "$@" < 1336350975 759782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ha < 1336350999 185951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes back to feeling smug < 1336351015 479467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336351030 191061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it brought you back from the ded < 1336351040 220987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no im still ded < 1336351045 625463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just laughing also < 1336351091 644803 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. xw on CDO seems to be running a bot of some kind, too. < 1336351098 223547 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now he died. < 1336351119 825490 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: halp < 1336351121 244035 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now he died again. < 1336351136 41191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TESTIN' POTIONS < 1336351140 159219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TESTIN' SCROLLS < 1336351156 360038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEARIN' RIN' < 1336351175 55371 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xw is n7's autorobin fork < 1336351184 988234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing is better than monqy's bot < 1336351189 466437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"big surprise" < 1336351196 12310 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im surpis < 1336351200 999449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye die < 1336351202 565971 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uh < 1336351203 697082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336351204 259264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :felid < 1336351208 478274 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got termcaste runeing < 1336351221 538462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm squarelos) < 1336351223 367306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ps1 < 1336351229 679942 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: On what server? < 1336351232 410629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :termcast.org < 1336351234 497158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: quick watche!!! < 1336351280 133520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a shell :) < 1336351294 234342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, shell prompt < 1336351327 295358 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1336351329 64965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i play < 1336351335 309619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feck of chei < 1336351336 16315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336351337 268328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336351337 934770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything < 1336351338 865564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SeAM < 1336351341 406894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not feck of chei) < 1336351343 337720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* SEAM < 1336351358 417824 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if my modifications touched ranged combat, so it might megasuck < 1336351359 19048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: play something that won't die instantly or i guess nothing will since everything got nerfed < 1336351361 962796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336351365 578301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just play what you've been playing or w/e < 1336351372 440790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's pick a combo that's bad but not horrendously bad < 1336351373 420738 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard choices < 1336351377 454298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they removed AM altogether < 1336351384 927554 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AM got removed and then unremoved < 1336351388 934764 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SpFi < 1336351393 474589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: haha < 1336351404 420251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not so much bad as completely missing the point :) < 1336351408 728944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: just play (a) whatever you played when testing or (b) muck or something < 1336351424 813307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've only been playing op things < 1336351426 876272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MfFE < 1336351435 213805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's fine!!! < 1336351437 998262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll mean we < 1336351442 78791 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEIE < 1336351443 395625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~see more of the monqys-crawl experience~ < 1336351457 373831 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll cycle through everything you suggest that isn't just "whatever you tried" < 1336351464 874658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest: < 1336351466 188855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you tried < 1336351466 617701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about just viable random? < 1336351469 207336 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so first, a feck that takes chei first chance it gets < 1336351475 645677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine < 1336351490 301116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least xom's teleportation isn't very scary when the maps are this small < 1336351493 208231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1336351495 36911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: TERM=xterm < 1336351496 970864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1336351498 770362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dark grey is < 1336351499 374949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the felid is a Unicode character that isn't in dejavu sans mono < 1336351499 891151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :black again < 1336351500 437393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no is it not working < 1336351507 314764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works apart from dark grey that turns out black because < 1336351508 148964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :urxvt < 1336351508 841635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome-terminal can render it fine < 1336351512 506948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xterm can't < 1336351523 603019 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not the normal fe glyph < 1336351524 388957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, it's a square < 1336351529 674459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy plays as a flashing rainbow square < 1336351530 294638 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The politically correct term is African-American. < 1336351534 345879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's /meant/ to look like that < 1336351537 482687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: pls TERM=xterm? :( < 1336351540 440885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: shut up < 1336351550 702610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what about looking at it through screen? < 1336351564 642033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the messages, too? < 1336351569 352597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know for a fact it works if you set TERM=xterm, so why bother? < 1336351574 28496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip, eliot is a jerk < 1336351581 225361 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1336351590 516986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :octopode abyssal knight of chei < 1336351591 906222 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDFi < 1336351592 808033 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it was uh seam wasn't it < 1336351596 88851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336351608 952599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to remember where I remember that combo from, it might have been a nemelex choice < 1336351629 213226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what wepon" - monqy < 1336351635 350079 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336351637 940173 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what weapon, i mean < 1336351641 431223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if it was neme choice < 1336351646 566091 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :weapone < 1336351646 911960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you have the best apt for, I guess < 1336351650 642766 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :javs then < 1336351659 744382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"skilles" < 1336351681 269046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336351682 398868 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i oopsed < 1336351684 342336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys crawl has < 1336351687 980945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :swarm problems < 1336351691 151250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336351692 10298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :low hitpoint warning already? < 1336351693 325431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go with something op already < 1336351699 309541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't keep dying < 1336351703 361737 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiiiiine < 1336351703 774629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're still in sight of all three of the entry squares :) < 1336351714 957151 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1336351716 902239 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's op < 1336351718 612358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1336351718 962157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1336351720 309592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tested with < 1336351721 545794 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336351722 314624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ASHAMED < 1336351726 90508 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tested with a LOT OF THINGS < 1336351733 794461 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes im totally ashamed because of how op it is < 1336351739 433113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its fine < 1336351741 257574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we wont judge you < 1336351742 899067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just for testing < 1336351743 9962 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336351756 316513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll accept this convenient fiction and ignore the fact that you obviously always play that combo when offline < 1336351773 466351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does monqys-crawl have the randomised languages and colours and turncount-type-changing built in < 1336351781 505109 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's my .crawlrc < 1336351805 572947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow did you < 1336351807 219383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with full piety < 1336351819 824195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he dropped to five, then back to six the next turn < 1336351819 999552 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone shoulde make a Britishe localisation for Crawle. < 1336351828 592258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess it has some sort of scaling, even more extreme than Sprint's < 1336351836 494244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks more fun than crawl already < 1336351837 492377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Crawl is in British English already, actually < 1336351839 767667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Australian English < 1336351845 899268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it New Zealandish? < 1336351846 19737 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But not Britishe Englishe < 1336351847 403315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you realise you're going to die so hard if you remove upstairs < 1336351851 656147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but much closer to British than American < 1336351867 194849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1336351870 847894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqycrawl reminds me of Sprint a bit < 1336351871 444225 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. Why do you have so much ********? < 1336351874 349827 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i forgot i had a conduct where i didnt take upstairs < 1336351880 435884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it's obviously being scaled < 1336351881 791215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: tell us about why you started with lots of piety :'( < 1336351883 339211 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's kind of like zigsprint < 1336351893 775604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also that's a bad conduct sheeshe!!! < 1336351896 136311 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nope, but i have sprint piety gainsenabled < 1336351898 336719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"upstairs are good" < 1336351900 915994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: actually, that seems like a good game mode < 1336351913 864639 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does? < 1336351914 594069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what does? < 1336351917 755773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :start the player in a zig, put Sprint-like exp gains < 1336351918 719809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "highe five" < 1336351930 166036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :increase the amount of loot somewhat < 1336351935 357718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: zig sprint is a thing, it's not really a zig but < 1336351948 660055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they made a Sprint map that's like a zig? < 1336351954 35448 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336351959 209042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprint v, by st_ < 1336351966 881035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps I'll play that, I prefer Sprint to regular Crawl quite a bit < 1336351972 525653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on CDO? < 1336351977 360262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hmm, are you sure just making maps the full size of the viewport was too small?? < 1336351981 702341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\?\?/?/ < 1336351992 922464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like they're too thin and too tall < 1336351993 669784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336352001 467767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: these are square < 1336352009 475778 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's the shape of your font that makes it seem like that < 1336352014 416642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336352031 907375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the piety scaling might be a bit extreme < 1336352046 986283 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting rid of corpses means getting rid of corpse sacrifices < 1336352053 266062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1336352061 813495 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll see if it's extreme after then < 1336352063 752642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think all the monsters are < 1336352067 299638 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i turned on the sprint stuff just for fun < 1336352067 457129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit too nerfed yeah < 1336352068 615000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh < 1336352074 295950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind of packs you get when going downstairs < 1336352074 826952 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are megabuff < 1336352079 109413 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just don't show up yet < 1336352081 206992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will probably annihilate a low-level player with th enerfing < 1336352082 674752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336352084 74576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the nerfing < 1336352084 996644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversed < 1336352089 304852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336352092 382804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"idke" < 1336352093 150165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't help that I have 10ac. ac is op in monqys-crawl < 1336352115 116981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great segfault < 1336352122 62272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"glah" < 1336352152 458503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this actually looks way better than crawl < 1336352179 25360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1336352183 216210 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told you < 1336352183 890788 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1336352188 700736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're great!! < 1336352247 444516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you went upstairs!!! < 1336352255 80496 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot about hte conduct < 1336352259 290188 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also forgot about the no-resting conduct < 1336352262 836405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"upstairs are great see" < 1336352267 877969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just wired into me from so much crawl play < 1336352269 334622 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i hate it < 1336352272 514760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no-resting is a bit unreasonable if you get poisoned or slow or whatever < 1336352278 615535 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trogs hand < 1336352282 292294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're only removing HP regeneration, right? < 1336352286 323446 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have infinite piety < 1336352293 364623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic/pois/etc. regeneration seem reasonable to keep < 1336352436 787186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yuore skills are default < 1336352437 460058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1336352440 953987 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336352443 212885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336352446 787716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow how are they < 1336352447 998142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that high already < 1336352453 817626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprint xp gains < 1336352464 137381 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i forgot to go upstairs < 1336352466 163476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops it reset you < 1336352469 228444 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336352475 266982 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just dive < 1336352495 176548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :funne < 1336352503 613964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't really < 1336352508 57118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dive in this version < 1336352538 728405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should < 1336352540 480635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do something about that hp < 1336352562 498465 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336352574 354193 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get careless when its too easy and then there's a huge difficulty spike < 1336352577 185828 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl is like that < 1336352586 918136 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is like that < 1336352588 331967 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what to play!! < 1336352598 94719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: octopode chaos knight of chei < 1336352598 796728 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dsbe again? < 1336352600 161158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said before < 1336352602 871327 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336352610 72692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :recipe for humour: chaos knight of chei < 1336352619 866042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :op can't armoure so it might be a bit "difficult" < 1336352631 886411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok armour is monqys-crawl's version of mephitic cloud < 1336352640 593947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dont use it" - monqys-crawl's version of monqy < 1336352733 716329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does this look fun to you i cant tell if im just hallucinating < 1336352735 62563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: good glass < 1336352746 909859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm playing zigsprint instead < 1336352773 415810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: bah, how can i choose between you playing crawl and monqy playing monqys-crawl? < 1336352813 232026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you forgot to remove the monster colour-coding < 1336352826 796345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's low on the priority list < 1336352874 390432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: see that's what i meant by < 1336352877 478561 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :opck "decidedly bad" < 1336352878 79114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dying when going downstairs post-un-nerfing < 1336352885 348459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the no armour simulates the un-nerfing) < 1336352904 671420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not yes < 1336352905 568717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aye" < 1336352923 560157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: try "ye" < 1336352939 34729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do a same letter combo < 1336352939 663686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1336352941 950875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa or pp or whatever < 1336352948 511349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"excitinge variation" < 1336352979 648457 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: * < 1336352987 20509 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, i mean # < 1336352993 626475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wait it < 1336352995 968345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually asks for combination? < 1336352996 306104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336352996 324532 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huae? < 1336352997 687804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because random < 1336353001 553793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huae is < 1336353003 645364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good pronouncing < 1336353004 16573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes < 1336353021 935892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's pronounced like the first word of Beowulf < 1336353046 824414 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s the name of a Chinese network hardware manufacturer. < 1336353048 751799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1336353050 555803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what happened < 1336353056 54883 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deid to ooze < 1336353077 98760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ddbe < 1336353077 626316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1336353080 695837 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336353082 857989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like it accidentally picked you an ok combination < 1336353119 654132 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, i had totally forgotten DDs sense surroundinges. < 1336353164 955319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre deep < 1336353173 27591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the two-headed ogre shouts in stereo!" < 1336353179 886049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im dibs on setting up the first monqys-crawl server < 1336353186 73064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dibs are mine < 1336353193 460317 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336353201 213275 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :p eliot is a jerk's ghost < 1336353214 163364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :jerks_ghost < 1336353222 138931 :jerks_ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :jerks-ghost < 1336353236 991113 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: will you implement monsters following you downstairs please < 1336353238 806151 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanxke < 1336353245 297927 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336353271 192726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"forgot to updsatatairs" < 1336353283 915762 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: thank you you're good person :') < 1336353299 301116 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that also mean you'll remove things teleporting downstairs when they should by rights take multiple turns to get down just because they're right next to you < 1336353303 213533 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(correct answer is yese) < 1336353344 270777 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1336353354 192032 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are duvessa and dowan nerfed too < 1336353365 772007 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone got the same changes applid < 1336353371 239478 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but you said < 1336353376 998943 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some things are bufffffffed < 1336353383 448656 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw you can reply to my messages with : hope this helps < 1336353391 116545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerks-ghost: I knew < 1336353398 452837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just didn't feel like replying earlier < 1336353419 632032 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336353422 385990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, didn't quite last long enough < 1336353428 557477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it turned out not to matter < 1336353442 892520 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Full Pois Slow Exh -cTele < 1336353444 391628 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good combination < 1336353450 449298 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only it was Starving too < 1336353459 571243 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: at least the monsters shield you from the centaur < 1336353468 381619 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gah" -- monqys-crawl < 1336353566 66162 :lexande!~lexande@lenin.ugcs.caltech.edu PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1336353578 258466 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what button did you press by oops < 1336353579 844871 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336353582 364195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ac < 1336353584 157217 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of ab < 1336353586 421244 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1336353601 504922 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you asnwer my regen question i forget < 1336353602 986787 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*answer < 1336353605 578287 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're missing out on monqys-crawl!!! < 1336353606 914592 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1336353638 876091 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you're removing hp gen; i'm assuming you'll leave magic/pois/slow/exh/etc. regen? < 1336353642 940679 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336353659 251112 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, except for magic < 1336353672 589413 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp/magic regen will be handled in similar ways < 1336353680 934847 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic regen seems like < 1336353682 817095 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more of a pain < 1336353685 856630 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget, how are you handling hp regen < 1336353693 437469 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undecided < 1336353697 630984 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make food regen hp for everyone but "woops no corpsen" < 1336353715 862252 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe leave corpsen and just make them regen hp instead of the hunger mechanic???) < 1336353774 544116 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating is bad tho < 1336353785 333727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would rather just atuomatically just regain hp from kile < 1336353804 858245 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't help if you need hp regenerating later on after kille < 1336353817 575686 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336353820 43539 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't! < 1336353823 176038 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do hp on kill + remove max hp < 1336353824 643620 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd of makh sure doesn't mind < 1336353836 376008 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that killing increases max hp instead of hp if you're at max < 1336353839 271056 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336353841 831450 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :max hp and hp rather < 1336353845 396165 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe just max hp???) < 1336353864 116788 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if that would have any downsides or whatever "i d k"??? it's "just an idea" < 1336353868 3043 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336354218 839967 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what happpended < 1336354220 727818 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in monqys-crawl, levels take a long time to generate because of how small they are < 1336354249 69539 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be stuck vetoing everyyyyyyything < 1336354253 978662 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it < 1336354256 475867 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally hung < 1336354256 883279 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336354265 761027 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it may have actually hung itself rip < 1336354273 85932 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"attach gdb to it" < 1336354276 278605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll put it out of its misery and try again < 1336354285 515607 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1336354293 494642 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what did you thinke about < 1336354296 158755 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :above ideae ^ < 1336354301 198714 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whihc < 1336354314 689847 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:23 you could do hp on kill + remove max hp < 1336354314 826503 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:23 dd of makh sure doesn't mind < 1336354314 934299 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 so that killing increases max hp instead of hp if you're at max < 1336354316 256633 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 well < 1336354318 259143 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 max hp and hp rather < 1336354320 263850 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 (or maybe just max hp???) < 1336354322 256528 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 dunno if that would have any downsides or whatever "i d k"??? it's "just an idea" < 1336354347 581836 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336354364 819727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how that would work out < 1336354369 735972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that explains why people hate torment, at least < 1336354379 990767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mummy level? < 1336354383 696611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336354393 271177 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what happend < 1336354400 894234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tormented repeatedly and then poked to death < 1336354405 298238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't out-regen them < 1336354414 870506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they also killed the berserking trolls really quickly < 1336354520 37490 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well the idea would be: remove increasing max hp on level up < 1336354542 926892 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336354545 934067 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nuts slime critter < 1336354609 291244 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they < 1336354611 249769 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard in monqys-crawl < 1336354615 600943 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they merge and < 1336354616 265089 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent seen < 1336354620 187257 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything hard in monqys-crawl yet!!! < 1336354623 84872 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i know what slime creatures do < 1336354628 771702 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one got to enourmouse, ie 88dam < 1336354635 682152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with maxdam that's uh < 1336354637 773713 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :88dam < 1336354642 210296 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i subtract ac so < 1336354644 155593 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than that but < 1336354647 61361 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you get the idea" < 1336354653 470341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerks-ghost: they're designed to punish fighting in corridors < 1336354666 411928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and interpret everywhere as a corridor in a level as confined as a monqys-crawl level < 1336354684 581170 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl must be gr8 for characters that are claustrophobic < 1336354792 310010 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yaktaur captain sounds like fune < 1336354812 82157 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yake < 1336354832 538671 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do the changes you made < 1336354834 9298 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :affect the branches < 1336354842 181190 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they affect everything < 1336354849 87634 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably make branch endings crash < 1336354858 539942 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: go to the temple :D < 1336354921 163104 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1336354963 840268 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine i'll go to the termplel < 1336354973 788828 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank < 1336354991 753672 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr8 < 1336354991 874184 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hapy? < 1336354993 726019 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hapy < 1336354998 247400 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now go to lair < 1336354999 947919 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336355000 610087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you kiled < 1336355001 671924 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1336355002 768162 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever < 1336355003 433963 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336355004 538360 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its GONE < 1336355012 255586 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe try again??? < 1336355013 230298 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill < 1336355013 928050 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :revive < 1336355014 413339 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll continue playing my testing gam < 1336355026 136239 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i br b for one second < 1336355061 608978 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im bake < 1336355075 556870 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did i miss anything < 1336355092 319790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfau < 1336355097 371149 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1336355118 187668 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right in this game I have ignite blood and a vampiric battleaxe < 1336355175 81407 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do mutations come more often since < 1336355177 374405 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprint < 1336355185 198717 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336355186 968529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336355190 978250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gain levels more often < 1336355191 386252 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336355193 144713 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl sounds like < 1336355196 182743 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jog < 1336355196 778156 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336355197 777093 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brisk walk < 1336355202 66636 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(compared to crawl, sprint) < 1336355217 380824 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told you it's not presentable yet :| < 1336355226 494116 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt say that was a bad thing!!! < 1336355228 838159 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks great fun < 1336355240 948403 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd crash when going into zot too right < 1336355253 578849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zot:5 for sure < 1336355326 634292 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you not been using wizmode for testing? < 1336355334 454170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wizmode is for cheaters < 1336355340 36646 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1336355437 419831 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi urug < 1336355442 463728 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi haurice < 1336355448 749477 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi joseph < 1336355585 569257 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good level < 1336355630 843416 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336355631 608814 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1336355637 215718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the action < 1336355639 118483 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336355640 27529 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1336355643 849837 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it < 1336355645 143183 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ltos of monsters < 1336355654 546152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every square had a monster < 1336355664 126732 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nioce < 1336355668 618164 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should make there only be one downstair wit < 1336355669 652652 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*with < 1336355671 765097 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind of levels you generate < 1336355673 187270 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spawned next to a giant spore, which killed everything except me (barely), a hill giant(which it confused) and a centaur (which was outside the blast radious) < 1336355682 126546 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerks-ghost: that's on the todo list < 1336355717 920335 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops you died < 1336355721 554659 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336355732 336713 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of dsbe and trbe eh < 1336355738 401308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336355741 761416 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"testing" < 1336355742 114355 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're revealing your TRUE PREFERENCES!!! < 1336355743 943342 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*PREFERENCES < 1336355746 363462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336355747 959536 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get back to my < 1336355749 21603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homework < 1336355757 295113 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are shamed!!! < 1336355823 5665 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im jerks-ghost forever now btw < 1336355842 354770 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you die < 1336355860 636187 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, rip, im ded < 1336355866 625911 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i want to play monqys-crawl :( < 1336355884 343636 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you ever heard of "commit early commit often"!!!!!!!! < 1336355888 435913 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336355889 861947 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i commit what i have, segfaults and all < 1336355936 725017 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336355944 184977 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it all going to be in one big commit < 1336355952 549664 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the git user inside me is sobbing < 1336355996 191946 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336356009 723339 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally i try to commit early and often!! monqys-crawl is just an exception < 1336356025 989375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wherein i just wanted to play around < 1336356040 559668 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do what i do < 1336356050 553712 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do a bunch of changes and then use git commit -p < 1336356051 226522 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1336356055 324440 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you have to stash half-way through < 1336356059 133118 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reverse some commits and uh < 1336356061 430913 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can get kinda messy < 1336356074 34769 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :once i had a commit session that lasted a few hours on mchost < 1336356083 10278 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aahhhh < 1336356085 843383 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how do i do this < 1336356093 840419 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's uhh i < 1336356096 369483 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really wouldn't recommend it < 1336356100 219416 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336356100 271447 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336356101 591749 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git commit -p < 1336356103 865229 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :presents you all the hunks < 1336356105 653316 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one big commit for now? < 1336356106 730601 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lets you y/n them < 1336356108 353361 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1336356110 954920 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just commits those < 1336356114 212838 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336356118 306422 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's OK; it's when you have more complex requirements that it gets < 1336356118 879968 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not ok < 1336356123 576978 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you have changes that both touched the same place < 1336356125 991842 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you want them in separate commits < 1336356133 806543 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's stash and restash and apply and modify and uugh time < 1336356183 785393 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336356185 747377 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git commit -p is ok < 1336356271 227466 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice self-self-portrait < 1336356285 154399 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i forgot a few selfs :( < 1336356298 813827 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dind't you see it already before? did i accidentally make another < 1336356306 540677 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gitorious.org/~monqy < 1336356326 450129 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use git add -p < 1336356337 483519 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but then you have to git commit!!! < 1336356341 155192 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336356351 547597 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :life's a bitch < 1336356424 151682 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: alternatively: just do it all in one big commit if you would instead give up < 1336356465 114134 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shouldn't you be doing it in a branch though) oh wait there's no commits < 1336356473 173775 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't do it in another branch its boreing) < 1336356490 309519 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i made the comites < 1336356498 507908 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hapy < 1336356500 101711 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1336356507 460529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing what in a branch < 1336356514 564732 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl < 1336356527 22944 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boring < 1336356533 519103 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"technically" git "accepted wisdom" would have it in a branch if you had any pretenses about merging it back into crawl itself < 1336356551 977787 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok now do the push :'( < 1336356553 327146 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they'd accept my changes < 1336356567 189427 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also uhhhh does it put stuff in my home directory or whatever < 1336356574 441719 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think so < 1336356575 507891 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to push!!! < 1336356585 340414 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im learn < 1336356635 253743 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: git push < 1336356640 847367 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that was hard" < 1336356642 423248 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336356700 780093 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWSS < 1336356710 50394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336356719 46269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on you can do better than that, ion < 1336356723 496245 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWSS < 1336356727 583062 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coycdbtti < 1336356731 943242 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: stop it already < 1336356737 336732 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWSS < 1336356752 18407 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi" - she < 1336356768 665008 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“that” –she < 1336356776 791626 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plonk < 1336357025 464631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i < 1336357027 946902 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think i psuhed < 1336357033 267873 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one waty to foidn out" < 1336357045 576585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there it goes < 1336357064 868907 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i just remembered i forgot to make the code look presentable too < 1336357066 951752 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i don't see them < 1336357072 74572 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :refersh < 1336357078 189254 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gitorious.org/~monqy/crawl/monqys-crawl < 1336357079 788630 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elp < 1336357081 12971 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*h < 1336357090 94569 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh its on your user page < 1336357103 732283 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: your commit messages are lowercase :'( < 1336357114 85922 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was i suposed to upercase them < 1336357117 393309 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i do soemthing wrong < 1336357118 667372 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heLP < 1336357137 249338 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crawle repo uses "Blah blah blah blah." (but "Blah blah blah blah" is the git standard (but crawl adds .s too)) < 1336357140 379611 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok ill just judge you < 1336357148 643796 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wouldn't it have been simpler to just < 1336357150 53762 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :override crawl_state.game_is_sprint < 1336357150 127848 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never should have comited < 1336357152 835321 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just < 1336357153 435470 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking < 1336357153 994461 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not < 1336357155 262092 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesnt work < 1336357162 541278 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was my first try < 1336357162 602429 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not complaining!! im just judging < 1336357165 944900 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: huh why not < 1336357167 677498 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336357170 378485 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336357172 210532 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of ucriosirty < 1336357172 258312 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tries to load sprint maps < 1336357173 495781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336357181 637265 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336357189 910223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt have the sprint map thingy set so < 1336357191 505227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt work < 1336357195 191986 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336357210 520952 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : defender->heal(1 + random2avg(7, 2), true); // heh heh < 1336357210 694471 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2159 defender->heal(1 + 7, true); // heh heh < 1336357211 473556 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh < 1336357218 306198 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("1 + 7" goode) < 1336357221 877530 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transmogrify the tribbles (title without a dot in the end) < 1336357223 674070 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(empty line) < 1336357231 316785 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect the optomizer to catch that < 1336357240 177542 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : const int damage = 5 + random2(10); < 1336357240 249200 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1950 const int damage = 5 + (10); < 1336357240 504603 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :An optional longer explanation for the commit, potentially multiple lines/paragraphs. < 1336357242 328039 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goode < 1336357243 184933 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's where distortion heals blink frogs < 1336357249 936208 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the parens this time < 1336357250 963358 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the number < 1336357256 453558 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : beam.damage.num += 2; < 1336357256 527265 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1848 beam.damage.num *= 2; < 1336357259 377023 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not fair! < 1336357276 571767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i do there i forget < 1336357281 917933 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure i had a good reason < 1336357281 975942 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idae < 1336357283 805271 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*idea < 1336357289 851515 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im going to < 1336357291 699106 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile monqys-crawl < 1336357298 235946 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hav fun" < 1336357332 264798 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i get it working maybe i'll remove identification or something "getting my toes wet in the water that is the crawl codebase" < 1336357341 804605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i remember why i did that thing < 1336357361 868377 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered just < 1336357364 310258 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverting that commit < 1336357368 764470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in crawl when you lrd certain monsters it either instakills them or adds 2 damage < 1336357385 548670 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got rid of the instakill and changed add 2 to multipl;y by 2 < 1336357389 805099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think what i did was fair!! < 1336357397 395790 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont mean < 1336357398 124664 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that part < 1336357399 400256 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean al lthe < 1336357405 99160 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrandomisde parts that made every monster either terrible or too good < 1336357423 329980 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336357429 149266 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe you should have split the lrd part into another commit!!!) < 1336357438 182749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336357448 588100 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( -- the lrd part < 1336357451 650665 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not good enough" -- the lrd part < 1336357471 427489 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow its slow to downloade < 1336357569 799318 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it < 1336357570 134800 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336357571 174810 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :downloaded < 1336357587 153105 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how do i build crawl :( < 1336357590 717885 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make < 1336357595 854811 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does -j3 work < 1336357599 415476 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :duno < 1336357605 397995 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does -j3 work < 1336357614 799422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1336357626 999060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not going to remove unrandomisation but i'll probably twaeak it and also other monster-related things < 1336357628 357471 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: /Developer/SDKs: No such file or directory < 1336357628 494305 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makefile:412: *** You do not seem to have any Mac OS X SDKs installed! This build is doomed to fail. Stop. < 1336357631 736910 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makefile is out of date!!! < 1336357636 410160 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what do you have against random :'( < 1336357647 841643 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its kind of boring if fights are predetermined! < 1336357648 530352 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random in crawl is pretty annoying < 1336357658 227830 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't have to be in monqys-crawl!! < 1336357700 139610 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: will you accept patches to make it work with xcode 4.something < 1336357711 913897 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1336357747 329889 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh its < 1336357748 907391 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really ingrained < 1336357749 921581 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really those should be going to the normal crawl gus < 1336357776 416341 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want to associate with them!!! < 1336357791 343650 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiine < 1336357804 56358 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the path is < 1336357807 863943 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs < 1336357919 304778 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makefile:447: *** The Mac OS X /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs: SDK seems missing. Stop. < 1336357921 861737 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is < 1336357922 422010 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pain < 1336357933 47445 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey, crawl < 1336357996 521133 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh this is < 1336357997 80640 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awful < 1336358005 186408 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im juts going to < 1336358006 82892 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hack it up < 1336358091 431336 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im git submodule update < 1336358101 413762 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how does it decide whether to build tiles or not < 1336358106 217895 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it decides to tiles on os x < 1336358112 258220 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say make TILES=y it tileses < 1336358121 563246 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe make tiles makes tiles too < 1336358124 592024 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk ive never made tiles < 1336358130 118113 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cloning into 'crawl-ref/source/contrib/pcre'... < 1336358130 255337 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly < 1336358130 357731 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clone of 'git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-pcre.git' into submodule path 'crawl-ref/source/contrib/pcre' failed < 1336358131 716844 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336358135 1330 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh now it works < 1336358144 801824 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? < 1336358153 675935 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it failed but < 1336358154 687187 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it worked < 1336358157 481304 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im updating the submodules < 1336358226 491679 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No TILE defined for 'milk chocolate' < 1336358226 628045 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No TILE defined for 'dark chocolate' < 1336358227 887802 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh NO!!! < 1336358333 584787 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realized a brain/computer interface could be called a silicon implant. < 1336358353 446844 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could it? < 1336358466 814126 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is slow to compile!!!!!!! < 1336358471 907293 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336358474 567346 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's fun < 1336358477 368219 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :touching a header < 1336358482 332750 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then everything recompiles < 1336358513 42377 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"c++" < 1336358546 552471 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :herks-ghost < 1336358589 762500 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this "ur permenant nikc" < 1336358623 684229 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : CXX rltiles/tiledef-feat.o < 1336358624 109822 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336358627 145888 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like tiles to me ! < 1336358632 89352 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: so uhhh < 1336358633 534559 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i start ./crawl < 1336358636 792870 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it put stuff in my home directory < 1336358646 550033 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think so < 1336358650 983324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hop not" < 1336358658 144975 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336358662 192604 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :high scores and stuff? < 1336358666 987501 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katia:source elliott$ ./crawl < 1336358667 123064 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./dat/des/altar/altar.des:279: Map too large - 20x7 (max 16x16) < 1336358667 194903 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help. < 1336358674 871628 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that goes in source/something/somethingesel i think < 1336358680 172068 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ar you termckasting < 1336358685 964912 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336358689 391159 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't astart < 1336358690 613962 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katia:source elliott$ ./crawl < 1336358690 750234 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./dat/des/altar/altar.des:279: Map too large - 20x7 (max 16x16) < 1336358692 71126 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should nt it be < 1336358693 383445 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :24x24 < 1336358696 465040 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no is it < 1336358697 845095 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it broken < 1336358701 770887 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it get broke < 1336358707 778645 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336358708 267012 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1336358711 766363 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prints that every time < 1336358713 756222 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git diff < 1336358715 941713 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::[ < 1336358717 695680 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you have uncommitted stuffes < 1336358725 347307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt say so!! < 1336358752 140968 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336358754 500704 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type make < 1336358755 876822 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work for you < 1336358774 617811 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1336358775 502893 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the resulting < 1336358775 994983 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary < 1336358818 557494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works for me yes < 1336358831 6220 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d: < 1336358831 856781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336358833 165174 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make clean < 1336358833 635185 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make < 1336358838 232483 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336358840 682214 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had a thing where you < 1336358842 408806 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deleted lots of files < 1336358846 110583 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was altar.des meant to be one of them < 1336358849 450480 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess not since < 1336358852 75702 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20x7 < 24x24 < 1336358853 65326 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uhhh < 1336358860 213008 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah make clean && make and maybe then it'll break? because < 1336358862 939332 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it thinks the maximum is 16x16 < 1336358872 70354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i made clean and am mak < 1336359093 375691 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1336359109 160345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mak taks tim < 1336359156 718716 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should add a new god called Maktakstim < 1336359165 639910 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the god of slowness O H W A I T < 1336359337 117392 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uh < 1336359338 328269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still works < 1336359341 19895 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? < 1336359357 661379 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlep < 1336359402 456652 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336359406 178448 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try cloning a new repo? < 1336359503 543859 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1336359504 663219 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :building that < 1336359505 677966 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uhhh < 1336359506 196013 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-k < 1336359514 927504 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i think it might have built with tiles?? < 1336359520 310421 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :waht < 1336359523 321286 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336359523 385244 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try < 1336359523 838423 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :os x < 1336359525 525033 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :building with < 1336359526 980315 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not tiles < 1336359532 72691 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should make TILES=n work < 1336359537 516004 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ! < 1336359542 158204 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH WAIT < 1336359660 483322 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tool/tile.cc:9:25: warning: SDL_image.h: No such file or directory < 1336359660 621423 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tool/tile.cc: In member function ‘bool tile::load(const std::string&)’: < 1336359660 693373 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tool/tile.cc:381: error: ‘IMG_Load’ was not declared in this scope < 1336359662 63354 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make[1]: *** [tool/tile.o] Error 1 < 1336359664 61974 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make: *** [build-rltiles] Error 2 < 1336359666 59476 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336359668 60683 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did < 1336359670 82895 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make -C rltiles all ARCH=x86_64-apple-darwin11.3.0 TILES=n < 1336359701 16391 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: where's the < 1336359702 720924 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :building documentation < 1336359723 426247 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did oyu do the git submodule --init thing but really you shouldn--it's somewhere--'t need to build rltiles if you're not tiles ????? maybe crawls build just dum < 1336359740 10535 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: where's the < 1336359741 395430 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :building documentation < 1336359763 21145 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere!! < 1336359784 584209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads try this i think it has some documentat < 1336359804 664421 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no theres < 1336359805 206332 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a file < 1336359806 64192 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with info < 1336359815 148240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forget where that is < 1336359819 855394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"woops" < 1336359826 469492 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's in like < 1336359828 589866 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Typical parameters: < 1336359828 726218 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# TILES -- set to anything to enable tiles build < 1336359829 865121 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the doc foler < 1336359830 983117 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo thats misleading < 1336359831 303056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or somethin < 1336359835 844726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336359839 993137 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's awful < 1336359841 995892 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's < 1336359843 740260 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the doc folder < 1336359849 135612 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sourc tre < 1336359857 666167 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :greet: < 1336359857 753250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be docs < 1336359857 804673 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : @printf " * If you experience any problems building Crawl, please take a second look\\n"\ < 1336359857 876780 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : " * at INSTALL.txt: the solution to your problem just might be in there!\\n" < 1336359859 267416 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336359925 213457 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mac builds use the Unix build process described above, but require you < 1336359925 349989 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to add 'APPLE_GCC=y' to the 'make' command-line. In addition, to build the < 1336359925 422130 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphical version of Crawl, you must add 'NO_PKGCONFIG=y' and < 1336359926 809645 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'CONTRIB_SDL=y'. < 1336359928 811682 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creis < 1336359933 731264 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im try < 1336359934 972452 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :APPLE_GCC=y < 1336359943 551041 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can you check that < 1336359945 822070 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat/des/altar/altar.des < 1336359946 873942 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exists for oyu < 1336359949 843470 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you < 1336359975 818493 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1336359976 957070 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im all headachey and bleh i blame crawl < 1336359994 660516 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im make from the fresh clone now < 1336360228 282770 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :little did know when monqy forked crawl < 1336360231 540386 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that he would have to support it < 1336360240 485065 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336360247 369261 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want to support it can i unfork it < 1336360260 230886 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336360267 636975 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no going back < 1336360326 105074 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerks-ghost: why are you called "jerks-ghost", jerks-ghost < 1336360453 4552 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did it work < 1336360476 348702 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok FINALLY it break < 1336360514 400656 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now < 1336360518 484094 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: diff your two directories < 1336360519 576963 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336360520 381263 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something < 1336360523 339652 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait! < 1336360524 743119 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try < 1336360526 786988 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git diff --cached < 1336360530 783586 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the < 1336360534 185499 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :old directory < 1336360534 890436 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just < 1336360538 569114 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff the two directories but i'd do that first < 1336360700 952059 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: if diff says theres no differences ill < 1336360702 540450 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scream < 1336360745 852103 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :screm < 1336360787 436165 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net NICK :TeruFSX < 1336360794 293440 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you srs < 1336360795 626877 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you < 1336360797 227219 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff it correctly < 1336360810 881113 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff -r dir1 dir2 < 1336360816 178068 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh -u too i guess < 1336360858 732926 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the onlllllly thing i can find that diffffers that i think might make adifference is < 1336360869 809066 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :saves/des < 1336360882 855674 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1336360894 2078 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks suspicious to me!!! < 1336360895 150089 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure enough i remvo and it break < 1336360904 979134 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336360911 695106 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now what went wrong !! < 1336360912 92833 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the error is < 1336360915 305005 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:45 ./dat/des/altar/altar.des:279: Map too large - 20x7 (max 16x16) < 1336360918 9563 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i bet somewhere you have 16 < 1336360919 261237 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you meant 24 < 1336360925 39232 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love assumptions like this in math questions: “The person is entirely made of water, which weighs 1kg/L.” < 1336360927 485182 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you divided by two once too many or something!!! < 1336360931 409247 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1336360932 252026 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix that < 1336360942 271728 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least there's not many places it can be < 1336360952 174920 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336360989 794307 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can even < 1336360992 620615 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :narrow it down < 1336360995 770886 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336361004 533012 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its either < 1336361005 547911 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gitorious.org/~monqy/crawl/monqys-crawl/commit/934ebc7df7933d82e37bf959b5e62c749a2efffc < 1336361009 116172 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or http://gitorious.org/~monqy/crawl/monqys-crawl/commit/fc9667dff88582d60a78de5b4bc36074c69dcb98 (<-- less likely) < 1336361166 69432 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll think about it when i have less homwork < 1336361176 661341 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi does elliott have me on /ignore < 1336361184 35815 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1336361193 233250 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does he just h8 me :( < 1336361197 548783 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1336361225 36761 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that thing at the end of your sentence < 1336361234 174152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1336361247 312642 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i have to go "oops" < 1336361257 986774 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonqy < 1336361340 109529 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may never get to play monqys-crawl :'( < 1336361927 934467 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336362274 182291 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1336363283 319394 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1336363296 605122 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336363403 276772 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1336364163 465327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336364393 245315 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336364942 635537 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336365162 418434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 TOPIC #esoteric :It looks like a pipe, but it is not. Anemometers don't fire bullets. Not even the explosive ones! Or I don't think they do ... if they do, meteorologists are more hardcore than I thought possible. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1336365211 4632 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ceci n'est pas une pipe? < 1336365623 927923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336366688 866083 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1336367326 239475 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1336370472 771559 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336370488 214023 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ceci n'est pas une "ceci n'est pas une pipe". < 1336370512 534264 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is french weirde < 1336370527 359332 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be like english < 1336370553 339977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The French musta thought English should be more like French. < 1336370558 318713 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence the invasion. < 1336370626 184472 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-112.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336370678 346544 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1336371120 798719 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :latin meets german did it < 1336371313 601058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is Arthur Mometer? < 1336371358 493331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 TOPIC #esoteric :It looks like a pipe, but it is not. Astronomers don't fire bullets. Not even the explosive ones! Or I don't think they do ... if they do, meteors are even more hardcore than I thought possible. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1336371981 920280 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott By the way, the "unordered tuple" thing is just n-choose-k. < 1336371981 992524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336372012 528111 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@telliott < 1336372012 657500 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1336372031 760236 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thion < 1336372594 597696 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott OK, maybe not quite. < 1336372594 669732 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336372707 807100 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unordered tuple? multiset? < 1336372838 78926 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott (n + k - 1) choose (k - 1)? < 1336372838 180427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336372847 942382 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Of a particular size. < 1336372857 431098 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336372885 504428 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that (n + k - 1) choose (k - 1) thing called "multichoose" too < 1336372939 609630 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, do you know why -fstack-protector would have a much higher relative performance impact on an Atom N270 than a Core 2 Duo? < 1336372948 501863 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I haven't heard that. < 1336372964 962196 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have! < 1336372970 562968 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Nope. < 1336372975 910454 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any more details? < 1336372992 129846 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about all i have < 1336373002 696975 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did you measure it? < 1336373020 953546 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i used GCC 4.4 and 4.6 respectively, so that might be it < 1336373031 20347 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ran a Mosh benchmark program a few times < 1336373056 669403 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should try profiling it. < 1336373063 732836 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea whether that'll yield any insights. < 1336373082 99025 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :function-level profiling probably will not < 1336373090 119518 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since each function has its own copy of the stack-check code < 1336373116 261341 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that could be why, actually. < 1336373121 390924 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i-cache blowout < 1336373134 218376 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, instruction-level profiling. < 1336373150 929591 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to do that, and i don't know if the Atom has the right CPU features < 1336373158 442869 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like a reasonable theory. How much code does it actually generate? < 1336373179 929553 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Linux program "perf" makes at least some kinds of instruction-level profiling pretty easy, I think. < 1336373183 190759 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also oprofile. < 1336373200 665541 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also don't have the Atom machine handy anymore :/ < 1336373221 398664 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use perf anyway! < 1336373226 125589 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nifty. < 1336373226 590671 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336373285 493555 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was also thinking it could be bad branch prediction < 1336373292 680130 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i can only speculate < 1336373342 413783 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: apt-get install linux-base # maybe?; perf record ./blah; perf annotate < 1336373653 368342 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: thonqy < 1336373658 149318 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good operation. < 1336373701 338556 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: on amd64 it adds at least 25 bytes to each function < 1336373739 627438 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-fstack-protector is for people who make mistakes. Just don't make mistakes. < 1336373746 855924 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1336374095 904979 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i write all my source code compressed to save keystrokes < 1336374201 802024 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might as well write the binary directly then because making changes to any part of that code will entail rewriting most of it < 1336374279 420750 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. i write the binary compressed.. < 1336374457 182852 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336374549 101853 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : PK  A,8 < 1336374552 687065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write the binary directly, it makes the program less portable and less adjustable, I would think. Still, for sufficiently small and simple programs it may be useful. < 1336374575 98074 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it requires a lot of messing around with the Alt key though < 1336374585 865631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Is this in ZIP format? < 1336374600 966416 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. wow.. nice spotting. < 1336374615 572901 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "PK" kind of gave it away < 1336374617 622322 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not quite genuine though.. i faked some parts of it < 1336374640 323386 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.. for all those people who know that zip files start with a PK when viewed as ascii :P < 1336374647 642137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PK followed by CTRL+C and CTRL+D is what made me realize; these are the first four bytes of any ZIP file. < 1336374647 996169 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a dead giveaway :-s < 1336374671 877044 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest of the code is faked with spaces etc < 1336374718 599710 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm.. im just being silly of course < 1336374830 446778 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was inspired by shachaf's comment about not making mistakes < 1336374870 890110 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: you're a Real Hacker < 1336374975 522869 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the code gets about 12% bigger with stack-smashing protection < 1336374978 845917 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on 32-bit now) < 1336374981 159386 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not trying to hide the fact i took a zipfile(instead of traditionally open compression format) and opened it in Windows wordpad and pasted the first few chars < 1336375031 109178 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the fact that producing source code in compressed format would be computationally more expensive < 1336375075 676678 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That's a bigger increase than I thought. < 1336375080 118282 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that... could explain a 20% performance hit? < 1336375085 738491 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1336375086 533120 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe? < 1336375090 360688 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should profile it. :-) < 1336375099 80409 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if I care enough to dig deep on this < 1336375104 145631 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be cool to learn how to do that < 1336375110 162648 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have so many other things i could do < 1336375120 509172 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to blog post it and hope someone else tells me the answer < 1336375121 749397 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think it would be cool in a sci fi kind of way to be able to type data in compressed format < 1336375149 740763 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorthand < 1336375156 815953 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I would measure it but I don't have a program or an Atom CPU handy. < 1336375164 860583 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stenotype < 1336375176 708920 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But perf etc. can measure icache misses pretty easily, I think. < 1336375179 360230 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :court stenographers are the true cyberpunk heros < 1336375181 15447 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336375196 202072 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program is in Mosh; i can send you a link < 1336375207 193693 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard of that program once. < 1336375246 696612 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm oh I do have an Atom machine I forgot about < 1336375253 783558 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's running a weird Linux distro < 1336375270 503417 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't make a big difference, I think. < 1336375271 864772 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not the same one I did the original measurements on < 1336375286 275892 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can't reproduce the original measurements on, even better! < 1336375288 892761 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not turned on < 1336375294 356907 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch. < 1336375295 888993 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd have to walk all the way upstairs < 1336375298 339943 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, unpossible. < 1336375305 49241 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even plugged in, man! < 1336375330 905819 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1336375342 642195 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the forces of curiosity and laziness are doing battle in my head < 1336375380 384501 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do it, laziness! < 1336375383 53472 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unpossible = simpsons reference 1. maybe. airconditioner fighting the heater in the rental car is the second. < 1336375414 592581 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should "learn" to do simple instruction-level profiling. < 1336375417 798293 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fun to a point. < 1336375423 257560 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And perf has this fancy TUI. < 1336375482 251121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine i'll at least see if perf can get cache misses on atom < 1336375506 542025 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll use the same Atom machine I used before (but not the same OS install) < 1336375512 896693 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not ideal because it's under load < 1336375521 509763 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Load? < 1336375559 325789 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, no I don't have that machine at all < 1336375564 543508 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in new york city < 1336375576 580652 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many netbooks < 1336375600 730890 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i have has a 900 MHz Celeron M, not an Atom < 1336375791 3247 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it < 1336375798 939276 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let the internet sort this one out < 1336375951 981349 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAZINESS WINS AGAIN < 1336376048 502710 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's 12% bigger because we stack protect *every* function < 1336376058 741617 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just protect the ones with bugs in them. < 1336376062 516772 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the ones with no buffers < 1336376074 978729 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i might have to upgrade gcc to get that feature < 1336376121 209068 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you know Either (Nat,Nat) Nat is an even type, but (Nat,Nat) isn't? < 1336376147 409754 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Better: annotate the ones with bugs in them. < 1336376160 383726 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, you can stick every single statement in its own function! < 1336376197 893429 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Did you know Either (Nat,Nat) Nat is an even type, but (Nat,Nat) isn't? Becuase of the extra diagonal. < 1336376197 953484 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336376212 209774 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an even type? < 1336376234 598854 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Also it's actually just (n + k - 1) choose k, for the sensible value of k < 1336376234 707516 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336376241 128141 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: A type you can divide by 2. < 1336376251 840934 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example Bool is even but Maybe Bool isn't. < 1336376265 536437 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't read that paper on quotient types or whatever < 1336376271 33677 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't either. < 1336376275 325690 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336376286 864819 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1336376287 733627 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just #haskell-blah gossip with dolio. < 1336376307 533006 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It makes some sense for (n^2 + n) to be even for any value of n. < 1336376315 29907 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:33 < dolio> The reason is, I guess, that Left (n, n) is the same as Right n, and Left (m, n) is the same as Left (n, m), so there are two of every thing you want to make into one element. < 1336376318 969240 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:34 < dolio> You can't just divide Nat * Nat by 2, though, because there is only one of each of the diagonal. < 1336376322 58115 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:34 < dolio> You have to add an extra diagonal to it. < 1336376466 330321 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what even finite types are but even infinite types are a bit weirder. < 1336376492 624397 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Nat is also even. < 1336376503 978647 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1336376518 47580 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure either makes sense. < 1336376522 805307 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nat = 1 + Nat, after all. < 1336376792 81414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me what half of (Either (Nat,Nat) Nat) is? < 1336376832 721609 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :An unordered pair of Nats. < 1336376896 976059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336376907 980182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prove it < 1336376911 969411 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in general for a finite type x, (x^2+x)/2 is an unordered pair of xs. < 1336376927 541434 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: See dolio's thing above for a mapping. < 1336376946 396696 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that it's valid for infinite types, but take it for arbitrary finite types instead. :-) < 1336377359 233137 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.168.141 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336377726 531851 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't even type just mean there's a cycle of length two through which you can create a quotient < 1336377775 332879 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if yes then it's fairly obvious anything with a binary choice in series with other type features will be even < 1336377858 140150 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked dolio's explanation < 1336377893 14175 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really like the fact that this channel is talking about haskell, even though it's not really an esolang < 1336378021 796724 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR IS IT?????? < 1336378022 152205 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't? < 1336378032 387962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang is in the eye of the beholder < 1336378034 201584 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i use it at my job < 1336378041 39202 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh really < 1336378043 211783 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's totally in the industry < 1336378047 173570 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use it for? < 1336378055 169343 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you tell #haskell? did they cream their pants? < 1336378061 413134 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told you the last thing i used it for < 1336378061 460865 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc +1 < 1336378070 177935 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you creamed your pants < 1336378073 897491 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336378075 805105 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1336378081 555770 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that was a lie because your pants were probably off already < 1336378084 948842 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336378089 617443 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's really no reason to wear pants < 1336378096 889577 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're having guests < 1336378100 111354 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah right) < 1336378139 260531 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah when i have guests over, i have to put pants on < 1336378142 798782 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes they come off though < 1336378175 554590 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like when the mormons come over for a bible talk? < 1336378184 439343 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336378188 897872 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :love thy brother < 1336378221 889054 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :highlight of yesterday's visit to hi-fi tradeshow: audiophile breakers < 1336378306 188022 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold-plated contacts n' all < 1336378524 276055 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :circuit breakers? < 1336378532 734975 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1336378543 158093 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff that's in your breaker box < 1336378543 521351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Zero; data UnordNatTag :: * -> * where { Z :: UnordNatTag Zero; S :: UnordNatTag x -> UnordNatTag (Maybe x); }; type UnordNatPair = DSum UnordNatTag; Is this a correct way of an unordered pair of natural numbers? < 1336378555 110508 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336378558 732100 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a hell of an industry < 1336378562 54890 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get into it < 1336378566 674916 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocaine's a hell of a drug < 1336378567 286445 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have special food for audiophiles yet? < 1336378571 147431 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have special food for gamers < 1336378576 80017 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do? < 1336378582 283550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336378585 263387 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen special food for geeks < 1336378587 132707 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu cola < 1336378591 649245 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336378593 415294 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seen ubuntu cola? < 1336378596 795533 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a thing in london < 1336378612 687330 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Cola < 1336378616 649310 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gamergrub.com/ < 1336378624 618684 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336378637 161814 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's not really related to the OS? < 1336378641 959824 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336378648 233788 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still an african scam though < 1336378649 20106 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad < 1336378655 74402 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :419 cola < 1336378660 471925 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1336378684 641962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :419 scam westerners every day < 1336378686 967937 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do much better than audiophile stuff. < 1336378689 634955 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homeopathy! < 1336378689 734021 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"boost your game with gamer grub" < 1336378693 261456 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fucking quaint < 1336378705 703609 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: oh yeah, that's really good too < 1336378712 591980 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyways < 1336378713 405367 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, combine them. < 1336378719 555301 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homeopathic audiophile equipment. < 1336378747 894072 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this western electric stuff, i've seen a recreation of it < 1336378755 279980 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one tweeter cost 9000 euro < 1336378759 928581 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each box contains a 50X solution of Sennheiser headphones, making your audio experience the best it can be!" < 1336378769 253852 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's like an electromagnet and a small horn and that's it < 1336378783 436969 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing you couldn't do on a rotary mill < 1336378888 446553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know answer for my question above? < 1336378993 549762 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not i, perhaps try to explain your reasoning? < 1336379050 215982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336379095 479227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using the DSum type from "dependent-sum" package; it is defined as follows: data DSum tag = forall a. !(tag a) :=> a < 1336379292 395854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This way may be better: data UnordNatTag :: * -> * where { Z :: UnordNatTag (Maybe Zero); S :: UnordNatTag (Maybe x) -> UnordNatTag (Maybe (Maybe x)); }; < 1336379409 550458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does seem to work; it is not really unordered but the larger number must come first so it acts like just two natural numbers put in one box where you don't know the order < 1336379813 283554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336379913 220241 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336379922 416249 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336379937 835754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getUNP :: UnordNatPair -> (Integer, Integer); getUNP (Z :=> Nothing) = (0, 0); getUNP (S x :=> Nothing) = (\(a, b) -> (succ a, b)) $ getUNP (x :=> Nothing); getUNP (S x :=> Just y) = (\(a, b) -> (succ a, succ b)) $ getUNP (x :=> y); < 1336379987 796620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :putUNP :: (Integer, Integer) -> UnordNatPair; putUNP (0, 0) = (Z :=> Nothing); putUNP (x, y) | x < 0 || y < 0 = error "Cannot use negative numbers here"; putUNP (x, y) | x < y = putUNP (y, x); putUNP (x, 0) = case (putUNP (pred x, 0)) of { (Z :=> Nothing) -> (S Z :=> Nothing); (S a :=> Nothing) -> (S (S a) :=> Nothing); }; putUNP (x, y) = case (putUNP (pred x, pred y)) of { (Z :=> b) -> (S Z :=> Just b); (S a :=> b) -> (S (S a) :=> Just b); }; < 1336380132 912716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works for me. < 1336380503 653748 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1336380503 816957 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1336380567 872717 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336380593 860297 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336380597 345870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1336380855 31874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping....ouch..... < 1336380894 536426 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1336381124 140574 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336381128 737062 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1336381159 196199 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1336381159 379906 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1336381165 156111 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1336381177 413241 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hai cheater < 1336381199 155376 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1336381204 858744 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong! < 1336381216 152094 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!Batch a < 1336381266 408702 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who delted my interp!!!!!!!! < 1336381279 721718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother called mahjong players that called sequences a lot, a "chii"ter < 1336381299 420054 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: DOING OTHER THINGS < 1336381394 417011 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DONR IGNORE ME! < 1336381425 845120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336381427 21676 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336381438 115711 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1336381455 649593 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who deleted my user interp! < 1336381468 506701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1336381472 401325 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1336381502 751919 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs another fejoa < 1336381719 768915 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1336381734 572050 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fruit?- < 1336381748 211467 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it delicious < 1336382003 607214 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336382020 501065 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ihave a huge fejoa tree in my yard < 1336382718 364973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: That is what happens when you burn your finger on an ash tray < 1336383861 923333 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I good at being awake at unreasonable hours? < 1336383882 506934 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a skill, all right. < 1336383916 43954 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Least desirable skill. < 1336383927 610243 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I turning into elliott? < 1336383937 897867 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336383952 317287 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got the "awake at stupid hours and complaining about it" bit down, at least. < 1336383963 768654 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should start playing dwarf fortress < 1336383971 16345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turning into elliott: also a useful skill. < 1336383976 554853 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why < 1336383981 146967 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing Dwarf Fortress: a useful skills. < 1336383985 157439 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the hubris. But that just comes with being a programmer. < 1336383995 805745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are so many skills involved) < 1336383998 396467 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that useful :P and whats hubris? < 1336384069 780516 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how is playing dwarf fortress a usefull skill? < 1336384094 701233 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose you find yourself stuck in the wilderness with 6 other dwarves and a wagon full of supplies < 1336384096 359824 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now < 1336384128 189970 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336384131 789610 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I suffer from miasma. < 1336384143 568358 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336384179 407096 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, do you feel you could survive indefinitely given only a square of lightless dirt, one plump helmet seed and a rock. < 1336384199 595560 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1336384208 846744 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, probably < 1336384228 459739 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming I had some space next to the dirt < 1336384237 136492 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fair point. < 1336384248 276869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336384248 439694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Can't farm that seed without a hoe and a water block. < 1336384258 343398 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION got his DSTT working :P < 1336384264 744656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha pikhq_ is stupid minecrafter. < 1336384265 591702 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, it's dirt, you can use your hands < 1336384282 603763 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, and Plump Helmets are pretty hardy < 1336384294 800118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only need water for bare cave floors, and moving it to the farm should always be a colossal undertaking. < 1336384298 302758 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the Dwarven Way. < 1336384317 183045 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only dwarves I like are in Boatmurdered. < 1336384320 211795 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My advice is don't try to make an underground fishing plaza < 1336384326 539200 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not worth it < 1336384347 980789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made one by accident in Rosyarrow. < 1336384430 944365 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaah that Peaceful Dragon Quest 9 Music ATLAST :D < 1336384435 351703 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was meant to be a well.) < 1336384442 162987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That didn't really work out.) < 1336384457 232145 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it freezes...... < 1336384493 355206 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe DQH Rocket slimes is better then :P < 1336384506 404068 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336384527 786135 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dragon Quest Heroes Rocket Slimes FTW < 1336384815 26484 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGA7kGPEVPE "Drunk teacher" < 1336384873 497139 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of my fortresses that have ended for reasons other than boredom or goblins, have ended due to underground fishing plazas < 1336384903 14172 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPACE INVADERS!!!! < 1336385219 604716 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336385446 192680 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336386178 318513 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-137-237.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336386696 495208 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336386850 226776 :cswords__!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336387254 779396 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 QUIT :Quit: Its Illegal < 1336387296 167328 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-152-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336387349 974159 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-137-237.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336387579 930124 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336387826 40897 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336388017 272953 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-123-115.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336388137 794397 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-123-115.as43234.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1336388178 14617 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-152-245.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336389278 272821 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336389446 356972 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm playing with perf now < 1336389661 158081 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of insane to run a short test program and see "98,469,751,820 instructions" < 1336389668 28375 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still not really used to how fast computers are < 1336390147 697731 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336390222 639412 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE890FD.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336390747 232942 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sasl still requires a bit of tweaking (you can't use autoconnect) but I have moustly solved my problems like irssi crashing < 1336390769 510545 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336391635 759901 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336391803 262820 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336392406 636079 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336392509 773373 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336392610 283532 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336392682 572397 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336392812 326007 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336392817 431531 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a Taneb mood < 1336392819 211238 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1336392832 62717 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1336392836 881570 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1336392847 99993 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:mt"4}*.J<,C.).Y?;H.sܭ~~Fv..$:..؀|]&.}Dt7C9.Sl-O9.Ӝ.O-g[XPwU{%.|,.tvڛ3q.ZeQ.ie=hߑ..e2w8M2ND/ZWj/.'a.*{t..6.؋2f7tZayj.%5d$ʠKK..PyEqnhS*f"4..uI.pvqI.fe. \ HÚNO.K1u.5M&g. < 1336392856 941618 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1336392878 376191 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nortti < 1336392880 924245 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1336392993 523327 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-238-139.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336393024 560563 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. < 1336393027 91217 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1336393127 818373 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1336393131 881807 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? < 1336393572 14506 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-238-139.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336395062 36204 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336395491 9267 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-26.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336395569 753971 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm unable to reproduce the performance hit on my other atom machine :/ < 1336395592 134495 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stack protector does not make a large difference in the number of branches or branch mispredictions < 1336397658 474415 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1336397746 158493 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a user interp? < 1336397783 687590 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336398037 957496 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336398787 525782 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it interps users < 1336398830 308483 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe one of your machines is compiled for atom's funny machine code and not for x86? < 1336398862 201193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336398996 238681 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that cheater__? < 1336399002 967495 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean LPIA? < 1336399031 459465 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea, i remember atom has its own set of instructions that it translatex x86 to < 1336399038 157088 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can also be fed that directly < 1336399044 436376 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was ubuntu for that i think < 1336399052 269586 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or debian or something < 1336399077 770000 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're thinking of lpia < 1336399094 144747 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be < 1336399095 908962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't really a different instruction set, just a different set of optimization options < 1336399101 935229 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i understand it < 1336399108 103981 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336399124 126402 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was supported by ubuntu for a little while, but it never took off and got desupported < 1336399127 641206 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought atom was actually some sort of risced thing < 1336399140 240554 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i heard they shut it down when it brought no improvement at all < 1336399174 340932 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's up kmc < 1336399176 450757 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean all (?) x86 implementations use microcode < 1336399194 834847 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336399198 852690 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can sort of consider that 'translating to RISC' but Atom is not special in this regard, afaik < 1336399220 866353 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but you can't normally feed the cpu its microcode < 1336399221 932104 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you < 1336399227 941188 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336399235 233567 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you can upload new microcode < 1336399240 714434 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can u < 1336399241 230715 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to fix bugs with particular instructions, or add new ones < 1336399255 947433 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do that on any desktop intels < 1336399266 233610 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's more like redefining a single instruction; you can't upload an arbitrarily long stream of microcode and say "execute this" afaik < 1336399271 146561 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1336399297 690512 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that because of the pentium floating point mult fiasco < 1336399315 327820 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I doubt that would be fixable in microcode anyway < 1336399316 934309 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know < 1336399404 901952 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what are you trying to do on atom? < 1336399420 690874 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something being done for work < 1336399504 413796 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transmeta implemented x86 with a software JIT sort of thing and a chip with their own VLIW architecture < 1336399524 988022 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it a super duper secret ksploracle project you're working on < 1336399537 288569 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksplorificle < 1336399543 422506 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course you can JIT x86 to RISC architectures not explicitly designed for it < 1336399546 430723 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :using qemu < 1336399557 335510 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cute < 1336399577 372397 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how qemu does every thing you can imagine < 1336399590 554646 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Loongson 3 variant of MIPS has a bunch of extra instructions to make that JITted code faster < 1336399596 551177 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically for x86 < 1336399603 464473 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't work for ksploracle < 1336399626 883462 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lately i have been working on http://mosh.mit.edu/ < 1336399631 465996 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a volunteer / open source thing < 1336399661 366641 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing i've been doing lately is working out < 1336399667 69934 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing i did was add automatic binary hardening -- stack protector, position independent code, etc. < 1336399671 233042 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should start doing like, geeky stuff again < 1336399679 135957 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so I wanted to see how much performance this cost < 1336399685 162220 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one of my test machines was this atom netbook < 1336399709 714456 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it a huge hit < 1336399715 452061 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it got a surprisingly large hit from stack protector < 1336399722 201267 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure why < 1336399726 453670 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's what I'm trying to figure out < 1336399745 337024 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many colors does mosh support < 1336399804 708073 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turning on all the hardening cost like 29% on the netbook < 1336399836 848198 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much was it on a normal pc thing < 1336399841 6119 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :negligible? < 1336399855 534096 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17% on another 32-bit Atom system < 1336399869 795805 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4% on my Core 2 Duo laptop < 1336399880 642898 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2% on my Phenom II desktop < 1336399896 417015 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's expected that position-independent code has a 5-10% performance penalty on 32-bit x86 < 1336399910 632028 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you thought that maybe it's just a constant amount of performance being eaten < 1336399924 374049 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since an atom has overall much less performance that constant amount is a higher percentage < 1336399944 467146 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure why stack protector should have another 20% on top of that, for the one atom only < 1336399947 456259 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that might be < 1336400206 245706 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336400254 36646 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparing the speeds of the two atom machines just about accounts for 29% vs 17% hit < 1336400265 383924 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on the former, like 80% of the performance hit goes away if you disable stack protector < 1336400275 20841 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on the latter only like 40% < 1336400340 201066 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's all a bit iffy < 1336400346 222046 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are various other differences, like GCC version < 1336400603 457594 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not trying to do rigorous science here < 1336400613 568568 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to get an idea of how much it costs us < 1336400629 932241 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really that's already settled and I'm just writing up a blog post for other people who want to add hardening to their autoconf projects < 1336400847 709258 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: mosh supports 256 colors, if the outer terminal does < 1336400926 107173 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336401142 614121 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1336401157 958346 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does vim work well over mosh < 1336401236 55077 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336401347 521466 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all i need < 1336401382 641654 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool cool < 1336401391 321914 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mainly use it for irssi < 1336401418 739047 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tire of chatting in fixed fonts quickly < 1336401424 919148 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336401442 470066 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas i swiched from xchat to irssi so i could have a persistent session over mosh :) < 1336401453 343333 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dangerousmusic.com/ass.html < 1336401455 392556 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta do the same for aim / gchat < 1336401469 753347 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336401471 48973 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i kinda don't give a fuck about that < 1336401492 675147 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly, look on irc, see if you can have fun for n minutes, leave < 1336401500 468478 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336401506 856598 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :having scrollback is useful but only marginally < 1336401535 684942 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been on connections which are too shit to connect to irc at all < 1336401539 794637 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mosh works ok < 1336401550 796440 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1336401555 35151 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you're in the middle of a conversation and need to switch from wifi to cell or such < 1336401558 752384 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the roaming is nice < 1336401559 510109 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty impressive < 1336401568 654404 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it works better than irc that is < 1336401571 581917 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see why < 1336401575 829983 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm still surprised < 1336401586 303169 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, IRC is TCP-based < 1336401596 922445 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TCP does not do well with non-congestive packet loss < 1336401617 328610 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1336401639 169187 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: would you put these in your house http://hifiheroin.blogspot.de/2012/04/munich-high-end-2012-preview.html < 1336401645 554421 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will drop entirely if you go too long without an ack < 1336401664 381414 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas a mosh session will survive arbitrarily long and will come back within 3 seconds if the network comes up < 1336401690 789823 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1336401692 369052 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can take my laptop on the subway and use my mosh sessions for the one bit where it comes out of the ground to go over the bridge between Boston and Cambridge < 1336401694 932537 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 3 seconds? < 1336401703 35838 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 3 seconds a built in delay or something? < 1336401703 561269 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the heartbeat packet interval < 1336401707 876726 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336402121 496070 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, the mobile shell, or something else? < 1336402131 72729 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(See? I did Google!) < 1336402133 902215 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: speaking of qemu have you used ubuntu's magical qemulated chroots? < 1336402157 986316 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i'm talking about http://mosh.mit.edu/ < 1336402166 279584 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ah, so yes < 1336402311 513724 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Windows client :( < 1336402374 519008 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336402501 178427 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The heartbeats allow Mosh to inform the user when it hasn't heard from the server in a while (unlike SSH, where users may be unaware of a dropped connection until they try to type)." < 1336402503 982811 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love it already < 1336402508 122204 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh-1.2 works in Cygwin, maybe < 1336402517 684341 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people say it does, some say it doesn't < 1336402536 909883 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the core mosh team doesn't use Windows < 1336402568 676679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to explain the may bank holiday to non-british people < 1336402592 629002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(elliott and ngevd, when they logread this, will understand why that's amusing) < 1336402605 469007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe not, if they assume that every country works like that) < 1336402613 48952 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the amusing part? < 1336402653 951714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's a holiday that doesn't commemorate anything < 1336402662 560673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most countries have too many holidays to celebrate one thing or another < 1336402680 720678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UK doesn't have enough, so it adds a couple at convenient times of year just because people need a holiday < 1336402686 297786 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336402692 318275 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not a May Day labour thing? < 1336402698 659953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336402705 831661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, hmm, perhaps it was originally, I'll check wikipedia < 1336402763 1192 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::Q: Does mosh work with Amazon EC2? < 1336402763 103321 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it works great, but please remember to open up UDP ports 6000061000 on the EC2 firewall.: < 1336402779 417809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, seems it was originally created by merging 8¼ saint's days (on average) and the day after whitsun < 1336402783 620887 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I seriously use : as a quote character? < 1336402790 983428 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why does mosh need so many ports? < 1336402794 931704 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what are magical qemulated chroots good for? < 1336402808 401757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an attempt to cut down on the excessive number of saint's days < 1336402808 422142 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US labor day is pretty decoupled from actual labor stuff for most people < 1336402811 709071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*saints' days < 1336402815 148868 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this may reflect my white-collar upbringing < 1336402823 160048 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it doesn't need them all at once, just one per session < 1336402839 994703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, no, that's late spring bank holiday < 1336402844 782459 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh-server picks the first available port in that range < 1336402853 906395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first monday in may is a purely arbitrary one indeed < 1336402869 548050 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you only need 5 concurrent sessions, you only need open 5 ports < 1336402885 497805 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cool < 1336402893 649623 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think japan has some holidays like that too < 1336402901 617092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was only added in 1978; surprisingly recent < 1336402925 814796 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why doesn't it reuse the port < 1336402936 894459 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sort of sux doesn't it < 1336402959 910100 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no persistent mosh daemon < 1336402974 900375 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :each session launches its own mosh-server process < 1336402990 754383 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could be different users running different versions of mosh-server they compiled separately < 1336403000 949027 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so the easiest way to get packets to the right place is for each session to use its own port < 1336403071 508438 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_Japan < 1336403133 600128 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Massachusetts has one extra official public holiday compared to the US federal govt < 1336403140 649761 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this year it fell on Tax Day < 1336403142 65302 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great fun < 1336403764 975976 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heegan < 1336403781 601666 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't perf fun? < 1336403844 978113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: holiday clashes are impossible in the UK < 1336403855 69270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sometimes leads to Christmas being moved to dec 26, if it would naturally fall on a sunday < 1336403861 119251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and thus boxing day moved to dec 27) < 1336403868 3141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although everyone celebrates it on dec 25 anyway < 1336403901 568897 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hais523 < 1336403920 890691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-shachaf- < 1336403934 344099 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what *that* means. < 1336403942 339947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think you would be < 1336403947 764831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it means hi, sort of < 1336403953 112317 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fun enough < 1336403959 149089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably only elliott could get it, and that doesn't mean he /would/ < 1336403974 925252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it involves cross-referencing multiple inside mems < 1336403976 859675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*memes < 1336403976 974713 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's not the simplest, it's just the laziest < 1336403994 422286 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah cheater__? < 1336404000 366739 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo simplest is for mosh to use a shared resource < 1336404026 76944 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a shared resource installed by a sysadmin? that's a non-starter for a lot of our users < 1336404056 926562 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you can have the process instantiate one locally if it's not found system-wide < 1336404060 31674 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a big selling point of mosh is that you can compile it in your homedir and use it right away without any administrative intervention < 1336404068 749395 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: local for that user only? < 1336404071 286252 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that doesn't change < 1336404071 345481 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336404078 640757 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you still have the problem of multiple ports < 1336404099 718002 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you've added significant complexity to make this agent relay packets around < 1336404099 990584 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one user ends up using one port at most < 1336404100 242240 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at the least, all users just use one port < 1336404103 87934 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what gain? < 1336404118 287819 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only have the problem in a fairly stupid situation < 1336404147 342332 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :one which happens but does not happen to often < 1336404153 907311 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc, you never told me what those qemu'ed chroots were good for < 1336404163 360757 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you have an arm chroot? < 1336404168 173194 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what stupid situation? < 1336404169 731770 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah cheater__ < 1336404174 249607 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a 32 bit chroot on a 64 bit system? < 1336404176 608971 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1336404187 272618 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you run a simple command or two and you get a chroot full of ARM binaries on an x86 Linux machine < 1336404191 527898 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which automatically execute through qemu < 1336404192 769215 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stupid situation is that there's no system-wide support for mosh < 1336404204 944123 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which only ever happens on multiuser systems < 1336404219 780399 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and let's be honest here, it's not like people do this sort of thing these days < 1336404219 841405 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they talk to your real kernel, not some emulated ARM machine < 1336404232 768387 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like people run their BitchX from grex.org anymore < 1336404259 295992 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or try to hack the modified bsd kernel of cyberspace.org to be able to run 'drops < 1336404271 724563 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a mosh developer i'm really glad that Mosh doesn't have a persistent daemon or anything setuid / setgid or anything that runs as root < 1336404284 751094 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you don't need to have a persistent daemon < 1336404286 788215 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reluctant to throw that away for the cause of saving a few UDP ports < 1336404293 697635 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there's 2^16 of them < 1336404296 744998 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have the first one that starts up handle everything < 1336404302 796199 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and persist until everything quits < 1336404310 211233 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I still don't see what problem this solves really < 1336404314 641753 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's certainly not the simplest solution < 1336404326 204251 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not having to open port ranges < 1336404334 145308 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you just want a single port < 1336404337 976278 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huge port ranges are unmanageable < 1336404385 98767 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :schroot itself is also pretty slick < 1336404397 680560 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's used for the debian package build infrastructure, among other things < 1336404409 723420 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice way to enter chroots and also have ephemeral copy-on-write clones of existing chroots < 1336404446 184973 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336404529 369649 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__ i don't see why you said "your solution is not simplest, just laziest" and then proceeded to describe a solution which is emphatically less simple, though it has certain advantages < 1336404543 329618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :main advantage to a single port is that it's easier to firewall < 1336404550 766644 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess in general the way engineers argue is they pick different definitions of the word "simple" < 1336404581 649366 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's the simplest from the user's point of view < 1336404593 83806 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the simplest from the developer's point of view < 1336404617 267929 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better from the user's view, but arguably more complicated < 1336404627 773080 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you still need to explain about port ranges, in the multi-user case < 1336404639 457112 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you also need to explain about this extra daemon that stays running < 1336404649 739966 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about the unix socket or whatever it uses to talk to the mosh-servers < 1336404756 825703 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know corporate IT security doesn't like to open too many ports < 1336404782 906188 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is identifying a mosh session by a UDP port number really any worse than identifying it with a 16-bit number immediately inside the UDP packet? < 1336404798 653837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not beyond the firewall < 1336404813 237349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but configuring it correctly is awkward because many firewalls don't have obvious support for port ranges < 1336404837 806041 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably the port number is better for security; it's easier to correlate port numbers with users and mosh-server processes < 1336404874 648614 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's so < 1336404910 261996 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my firewall config is just an iptables shell script and so i used a shell loop :) < 1336404916 995886 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though i think iptables also has range support) < 1336405392 381095 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336405400 133053 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Changing host < 1336405400 151901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336405572 743513 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple ports is just very impractical < 1336405581 608318 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not like explaining my scheme is that difficult < 1336405659 407930 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mosh will use a single port for all sessions if it can, but it might have to use more ports due to permissions. You can read about the exact scheme in [7]." < 1336405673 9129 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :99.999999999% of all people using it will not need to read [7] < 1336405709 722488 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336405722 925764 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if every person on earth is a Mosh user, only 7% of one person will need to read that link < 1336405808 748152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336406129 683323 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336406276 524864 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336406345 359288 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's not impossible we will implement some kind of multiplexer < 1336406387 401588 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think what's more likely is that we'll use hole punching techniques (as do Skype and many other applications) to make both directions of UDP traffic look "outgoing" to firewalls < 1336406511 30322 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i like ur math < 1336406706 833590 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you think there's an actual real reason to use quemu chroots? < 1336406707 249090 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking, the one thing i am missing with linuxes right now is the ability to migrate a 32 bit system to 64 bit < 1336406707 268080 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really really sucks there isn't anything to do it < 1336406708 233498 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe this sort of thing is necessary < 1336406823 830139 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used it for testing and debugging the ARM build of Mosh < 1336406828 639340 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my amd64 desktop < 1336406840 719366 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was much more pleasant than using a whole system emulated arm system < 1336406843 351356 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i have also done < 1336406869 942847 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qemu is not necessary for running 32-bit binaries on 64-bit kernel of the same architecture family, usually < 1336406909 946225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disabling 32-bit compat on a multi-user system is a savvy security move < 1336406914 374360 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think many people do it < 1336407079 374224 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336407136 825813 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336407148 872173 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but still, you can't migrate 32 bit to 64 bit < 1336407148 890430 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that i know of < 1336407148 890599 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know of a way? < 1336407149 182365 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1336407181 16779 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "migrate" exactly < 1336407249 789921 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1336407366 201609 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3981354_460s.jpg oh really? < 1336407440 218871 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336407468 328030 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: what do you mean by "migrate" exactly < 1336407494 532050 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a computer with an OS which i installed with a 32 bit ubuntu dvd < 1336407506 522708 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want it to start using 64 bit versions of everything < 1336408556 424417 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Cadaeic! I'm a Cadaeic! I'm a real Cadaeic! < 1336408649 60752 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: ok < 1336408654 211263 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a package manager problem i guess < 1336408664 896121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if debian's new multiarch support helps < 1336408687 510140 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if it has a way to "pivot" which binary is actually stored at /bin/ls or whatever < 1336408768 188059 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336409353 282069 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336409414 638224 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336410620 521329 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336410727 992607 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336411069 185691 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336411872 73776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336412385 365790 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336413677 494635 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336413852 958555 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336413956 565353 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power plug of my computer fell off when I was updating slitaz. Now it doesn't want to boor < 1336413982 523526 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*boot < 1336414003 315126 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may need to plug in the power again < 1336414187 552198 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i have done that < 1336414237 232522 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it boots to grub and starts loading and then it panics < 1336414290 599685 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can ease it up against a wall, that's what you do with panicking horses apparently < 1336414425 77148 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-26.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1336414438 127691 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :KERNEL panics < 1336414540 198388 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336414761 582453 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1336414783 440267 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336415039 147805 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336415265 372456 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost want to `addquote Power plug of my computer fell off when I was updating slitaz. Now it doesn't want to boot you may need to plug in the power again < 1336415301 352606 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why only almost? < 1336415320 99727 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too obvious. It's not an especially #esoteric joke. < 1336415893 186174 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have high standards < 1336416348 891573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336416375 493895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336416829 944742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2:43 < 1336416830 155600 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 6 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1336416958 925609 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Popular guy. < 1336416970 109569 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ten minutes off. < 1336416994 500506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ten minutes and many hours < 1336417030 349251 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we assume PM, you were in fact only ten minutes off for me. < 1336417092 968767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure thing, American. < 1336417130 601800 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336417145 451041 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1336417615 197485 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336417617 625647 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336418881 176668 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, my ability to differentiate the words terrific and terrible is deteriorating < 1336418938 18253 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336418939 436493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just terrifible. < 1336418965 690914 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336418966 999674 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrifblic < 1336419000 637221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Hi! < 1336419004 154797 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terry Feeble < 1336419005 76781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: How's your roguelike? < 1336419010 926576 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, stuck! < 1336419021 969229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: :''( < 1336419034 718499 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't worked out how to simulateneously render something and input characters! < 1336419043 82301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You don't. < 1336419048 280302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You render the screen, and then you wait for character input. < 1336419051 851807 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah < 1336419052 55766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rinse, wash, repeat. < 1336419073 608401 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :use threads, and you can also simultaneously crash terrifibly unreliably < 1336419075 227920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You probably want to use a terminal library like one of the curses bindings or vty if you're not.) < 1336419086 453200 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'll look into that < 1336419092 109227 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DO MANY THINGS NOW < 1336419094 276909 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1336419104 454025 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336419112 797509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that some of the curses bindings are awful.) < 1336419113 688785 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including what is now the second-best chess game for the 0x10c CPU < 1336419132 831685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vty might be the best option, even if it is kind of gross.) < 1336419209 278190 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooooo < 1336419222 65151 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had this girlfriend who lived in kuopio and was going to move to turku < 1336419232 254214 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i have this girlfriend who lived in turku and moved to kuopio < 1336419238 418075 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they are fucking neighbors < 1336419263 862588 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't know each other, and have no links. < 1336419268 639555 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you the neighbors? < 1336419274 650885 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you are a link < 1336419282 90236 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: introduce them < 1336419302 214134 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hello ex, this is why i left you" < 1336419333 621949 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to drive 800km to show you. < 1336419363 604622 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they will knife-fight to the death (as all finns do) and you will take the winner < 1336419380 361355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Are you sure you weren't born Finnish? < 1336419391 417160 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to drive all the way though, you can just tell them "hey, she's your neighbor now!" < 1336419392 401334 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing wrong with some finnish < 1336419398 727463 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ̄ー ̄) < 1336419423 492709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finns use ridiculous smilies like ( ̄ー ̄). < 1336419425 349744 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336419435 34026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Are you sure? < 1336419444 569656 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336419449 53473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Are you sure? < 1336419452 483915 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336419453 219919 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i'm going there this weekend. i'm sure this will be fun. < 1336419461 129128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Are you sure? < 1336419463 474776 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336419467 332419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Are you sure? < 1336419467 685078 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that is aproximaltely how out face looks like < 1336419490 683638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Aren't you sure? < 1336419502 313277 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I am sure < 1336419505 764679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Arse you sure? < 1336419511 288381 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you're like that person in that book I'm reading by that person who Phantom_Hoover is disappointed by his appearance due to it not being recursive enough < 1336419512 191591 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: arse you < 1336419542 968516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Is that the book I think it is? < 1336419572 988745 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that would depend on which book you think it is. < 1336419576 894236 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But probably. < 1336419588 814138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will just leave http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Chris_Pressey#G.C3.B6del.2C_Escher.2C_Bach:_An_Eternal_Golden_Braid here. < 1336419592 726283 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you thinking of The Stainless Steel Rat's Revenge? < 1336419609 811656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DID YOU GUESS < 1336419634 301901 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three things: < 1336419640 164122 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One, you live in my local area < 1336419646 741435 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two, you have EYES EVERYWHERE < 1336419657 248768 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three, I am currently reading The Stainless Steel Rat's Revenge < 1336419668 565756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have to move away from Ngevd. :'( < 1336419687 18877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to figure out where the recursion comes in. < 1336419748 126597 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :next to the review of wolfram's book, I just can't figure out what level of sarcasm/irony/parody that GEB review is written with < 1336419787 436850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone ever ended a serious statement with "!!1!"? < 1336419812 801414 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I'm sure someone has < 1336419844 404459 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I mean < 1336419848 240524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, that's what Chris thought of the Dragon Book: "The classic, borderline-incomprehensible book on compiler construction". < 1336419858 306974 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone ever ended a retorical question with? < 1336419883 193380 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336419884 360526 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pluss speling < 1336419886 36594 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336419891 178315 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1336419894 905058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Who's Noé Rubinstein? < 1336419898 986587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336419905 554441 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336419913 921546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind, Gmail answered my question first. < 1336419930 543252 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336420025 57104 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The robot stood as stolid as a statue" < 1336420028 792473 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOLID < 1336420035 875270 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOLID < 1336420054 48862 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1336420057 598424 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1336420060 419116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336420074 454175 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Harrison really needs a better editor < 1336420090 608105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336420116 543046 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336420125 301356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336420129 301053 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: stolid is a word that can be used in a sentence just like that < 1336420147 326402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrifibly stolid < 1336420153 777938 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even makes sense, although statues aren't necessarily stolid < 1336420161 968400 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good statues probably aren't < 1336420162 974535 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a silly word < 1336420174 656318 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stilly < 1336420190 996698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrifibly stillily stolid < 1336420233 621325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I'm bored. You should play Crawl so I can watch and laugh. < 1336420266 335943 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm currently using Windows for stilly and friviltous treasons < 1336420272 195365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Do you have PuTTY? < 1336420289 422753 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you stream with PuTTY? < 1336420294 742376 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it could only recieve < 1336420297 67536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you play on the server. < 1336420304 502153 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1336420307 884371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which then streams it for you (and also lets people send messages). < 1336420315 343943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mostly "Squarelos: hi".) < 1336420326 219972 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, running PuTTY < 1336420333 546408 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What settings? < 1336420333 874682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl.develz.org, port 345 < 1336420334 584188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet < 1336420346 389280 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"stream"? < 1336420353 983107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Termcast style. < 1336420356 822638 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotcha < 1336420389 201631 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing < 1336420412 93472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you dare be an elf. < 1336420453 872378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be a vamp. < 1336420470 1885 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite slow? < 1336420475 142889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is? < 1336420478 687926 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lag < 1336420483 442146 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you telnet to it and it appears in your terminal? sort of like how telnet works? < 1336420485 449964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sometimes a bit laggy. But then it isn't. < 1336420490 594547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: wat < 1336420509 916801 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I am confuse < 1336420521 100068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It lets other people watch. < 1336420534 283150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Go for Minotaur or Troll or something. < 1336420535 356229 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336420543 704617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something overpowered enough to let you survive on pure luck. :p < 1336420549 729332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TANEEEEEEB < 1336420560 479153 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336420567 717878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Go for Minotaur or Troll or something. < 1336420570 32517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something overpowered enough to let you survive on pure luck. :p < 1336420598 93831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fighter or Berserker would complete the overpowered-melee-fighter combo. < 1336420606 480608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Axe. < 1336420622 967952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You know about vikeys, right? < 1336420626 713304 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1336420635 802509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't use the arrow keys, you'll die, because you can't do diagonals. < 1336420642 389587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a number pad you can use that. < 1336420646 665317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it's hjkl/yubn to move. < 1336420656 541173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the two more useful keys are o and tab. < 1336420659 201238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*most useful < 1336420693 914735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You should chop that corpse. < 1336420723 619707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1336420725 772391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Kobold corpse. < 1336420735 183594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336420812 590638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You might want to adjust the skills you're training by pressing m.) < 1336420824 651502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Turning off everything but axes would be reasonable.) < 1336420851 521770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, press / to go manual. < 1336420853 828926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it won't really work. < 1336420862 206141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl's skills settings are kind of complicated. < 1336420902 582220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You're still using the arrow keys, aren't you. :( < 1336420970 204185 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1336420977 133276 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just forget about diagonals < 1336420991 538790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Did you leave that scroll there on the previous level? < 1336420995 615261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ctrl+F scroll to check.) < 1336421008 605201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try a. to go back there and pick it up. < 1336421020 536601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it appears that DMM has filled up the LMOO queue by drawing other other people < 1336421020 713756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll walk for you. < 1336421024 224154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s suggestions < 1336421034 691911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The advantage of using o rather than walking around manually, apart from being less tedious, is that it makes sure you don't miss picking anything up>0 < 1336421036 824680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*up.) < 1336421090 735148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should chop corpses after killing them with "c", unless they show up as green text. (So you can eat them when you get hungry.) < 1336421139 489142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Stop. < 1336421141 603005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press Ctrl+P. < 1336421152 823306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eating is... a bad idea when you're in combat. < 1336421189 361261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:05 Taneb the Shield-Bearer (L3 MiFi), blasted by Sigmund (magic dart) in D:3, with 91 points after 1086 turns and 0:08:54. < 1336421198 538090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go team sigmund < 1336421587 906080 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, neither Vty nor hscurses want to install < 1336421932 780962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What errors? < 1336421936 337382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vty should be easier to install. < 1336421966 25262 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: what are you trying to do? < 1336422002 275394 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write a roguelike < 1336422070 251576 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://hpaste.org/68200 < 1336422079 334434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1336422083 513293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Windows for you. < 1336422102 428886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there might be a curses binding on Hackage that works with PDCurses. Maybe. < 1336422129 101804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's http://hackage.haskell.org/package/nanocurses. But that package has been broken for years. < 1336422349 337751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are writiing a roguelike, a few things to consider are: * Separate front-end and back-end * PC/NPC unification * If using Haskell, the "extensible-data" package < 1336422545 156967 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/05/18/lets-use-a-methaphor-charlie-and-his-car/ < 1336422648 849133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Challenge: Write introductory paragraph that can start no blog post of value. Submission: "Few weeks ago I posted a rant about stupid people not knowing how to internet. Most of the readers could relate, but some folks criticized me for being elitist. I’m pretty sure these people were just trolling but I guess they were successful enough to make me want to revisit this post." < 1336422722 53626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Anyway, you could just... < 1336422725 451766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I dunno, use SDL or something. < 1336422734 157812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or write it in Python, that has libtcod bindings. :p < 1336423729 814572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Turn: 167115944" < 1336423733 731856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a many turn < 1336424069 174034 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using ansi-terminal, but input is dodhy? < 1336424155 354324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ansi-terminal can't do the kind of things you'd want. < 1336424168 116429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could just redraw the entire screen each time... :p < 1336424235 46237 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks, you just made me not read nortti's link < 1336424255 828049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: But now you've missed out. :( < 1336424274 839779 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No he didn't < 1336424278 379597 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That blog is awful < 1336424302 579923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can miss out on awful things, too! < 1336424305 431218 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: why do you think so < 1336424328 860823 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Charlie is an awful name! < 1336424346 955944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Did you know that every teenager consumes porn? < 1336424347 484076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2012/05/02/is-your-teen-browsing-the-pr0n/ < 1336424347 780410 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I just need to learn how to internet, to make sure that blog poster doesn't make fun of me < 1336424350 136109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHECKMATE ASEXUALS < 1336424356 698468 :blacksun1!blacksun1@dialup-4.248.34.247.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336424362 885588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd's cover is blast wide open. < 1336424363 795982 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, FSVO porn < 1336424365 379721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome blacksun1 < 1336424369 454037 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :blacksun1: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336424407 918513 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I occasionally have disturbing deviantArt binges < 1336424419 98234 :blacksun1!blacksun1@dialup-4.248.34.247.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1336424425 825457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TELL US NO MORE < 1336424821 478964 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, goodnight < 1336424823 612187 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1336425258 669067 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grawr < 1336425986 257290 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1336426364 478072 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336426553 160141 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336428380 668306 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336428625 910091 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.164 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336430305 996515 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : I occasionally have disturbing deviantArt binges TELL US NO MORE < 1336430326 99775 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, time to look up "pony" on Deviant Art and see how many pages I have to go through 'til I get to pony porn. < 1336430328 26485 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess: 0 < 1336430390 29808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's some cover you have there. < 1336430399 960815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long have you been waiting for a tangentially-related IRC discussion to reply to with that? < 1336430431 73473 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ゚∀゚) < 1336430447 297344 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say that right now regardless, it was merely happy happenstance that it vaguely fit a previous conversation. < 1336430494 372322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shameless as ever, I see. < 1336430880 399432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336430958 809743 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : ( ゚∀゚) // I honestly can't make heads or tails of this smiley. < 1336430965 848793 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it smiling? Freaked out? A bird? < 1336430982 682892 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1336430997 173243 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about (  ゚,_ゝ゚) < 1336431024 704133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like the O RLY owl to me. < 1336431026 912308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the previous one. < 1336431027 180638 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty understandable. < 1336431042 227497 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about (ノ`Д´)ノ彡┻━┻ < 1336431045 829328 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :const < 1336431136 820111 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shoppies-img.jp/res_items3/746/7465945/PT_110601202610190.jpg < 1336431140 359111 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not an owl < 1336431145 982279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely an owl. < 1336431155 500092 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess an exaggerated version of ( °▽°) < 1336431156 73265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My system's rendering of it is better. < 1336431157 301937 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you must < 1336431163 580435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dors are wider than just the dot, and to the left of the character. < 1336431171 899764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dots < 1336431177 571121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION screenshots. < 1336431186 480148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZG51cA < 1336431201 318313 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah that's a pretty odd rendering < 1336431210 130687 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not dots, they're degree signs. < 1336431221 361585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Degree signs are just dots with ego. < 1336431223 28620 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're supposed to be circles. < 1336431230 784676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are circles. < 1336431233 219236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just small circles. < 1336431236 198387 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...with no fill < 1336431238 745652 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a stroke < 1336431249 887842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They turn into hollow circles when I increase the font size. < 1336431257 56718 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go < 1336431259 377652 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE890FD.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336431261 784387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already knew that. < 1336431263 799583 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just leave it on the higher setting from now on < 1336431267 409638 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can see my ° < 1336431270 486268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to display the hollowness without distorting the sizes at a font size like that. < 1336431278 194459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I already interpreted it as a circle. < 1336431289 527955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Also, that is a different character. < 1336431294 769672 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should change fonts < 1336431297 850514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one renders as larger and more hollow here. < 1336431334 426596 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1336431342 498318 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :゚° < 1336431344 331446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZG51cQ Compare your original smiley to your "So you can see my" line. < 1336431344 759972 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo, you're right < 1336431359 730098 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a degree sign, it's a half-width handakuten mark < 1336431379 362873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN YR FACE < 1336431408 392614 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which should also preferably be a circle, mind you) < 1336431425 50500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a circle, just a small one. < 1336431425 87685 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, mozc's standard dictionary uses a full-width handakuten mark for those < 1336431442 389957 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah but the proportions are off. < 1336431443 481307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese text isn't really well-suited to this font size on displays with standard pixels per inch. < 1336431463 535019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even though this display has an above-average PPI.) < 1336431465 125416 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font size is the same or smaller tbh < 1336431473 489855 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's quite legible. < 1336431480 37936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would probably be better at this size with more hinting. < 1336431492 592737 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, full hinting is a must. < 1336431498 939481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't use Japanese on IRC, so :p < 1336431502 563714 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it's just black blobs. < 1336431521 55085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X never hints afaik. < 1336431537 463413 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1336431541 23859 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enjoy your blobs then I guess < 1336431549 286547 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Full hinting + stroke elimination is a must for small text < 1336431587 12664 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my resolution even 書 has enough horizontal lines to require stroke elimination < 1336431591 757247 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, font size < 1336431600 86409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's any justice, increasing PPI will obsolete that (and antialiasing) soon enough. < 1336431602 903951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There isn't any justice, though.) < 1336431614 953928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Especially since most OSes are woefully badly-equipped to handle larger PPIs.) < 1336431628 736786 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Let me guess, "except OSX") < 1336431636 505474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, OS X is terrible at it. < 1336431639 514987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't usually use OS X. < 1336431644 809423 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬u¬ < 1336431651 145718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X just assumes everything is 100 PPI and uses bitmap images for most things. < 1336431660 153327 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways PPI hasn't increased on your usual laptop displays for years < 1336431672 101652 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consumers seem to be content with "full HD" < 1336431689 774291 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to find displays with better resolution. < 1336431708 955450 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame Windows. < 1336431725 975585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This display is ~128 PPI, which is nice. (1440x900 at 13") < 1336431727 284056 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I doubt most desktop displays go higher than that either. < 1336431740 846405 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :96 DPI is still standard. Alas. < 1336431752 438287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My other laptop is the same size but 1366x768, which is smaller than I would like. < 1336431767 673353 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :LVDS1 connected 1440x900+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 367mm x 229mm < 1336431782 540251 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if xrandr can calculate DPI for me, too lazy to < 1336431813 709258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"578 characters were initially added, though some characters unsuitable for names such as 怨 (grudge, resent), 痔 (haemorrhoids) and 屍 (corpse) were removed as a result of public feedback." < 1336431830 1362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean I can't call my kid Grudge Haemorrhoidscorpse? < 1336431847 425522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much for free speech. :( < 1336431893 292785 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that would go through in most countries... < 1336431894 70201 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You still can. < 1336431913 367866 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just can't be 痔屍 怨. < 1336431920 101174 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll have to spell it out. < 1336431937 687059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRUDGE  HAEMORRHOIDSCORPSE < 1336431980 274694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :グラッジ ヘモロイヅコープす morelike < 1336432028 93883 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :倉地 兵諸井戸幸符巣 < 1336432034 765212 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or KURAJI HEMOROIDOKOUPUSU < 1336432036 680800 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1336432051 346137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :恨みの痔の死体 < 1336432056 127541 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Nonono. Kuraji HEMOROIDOKOUPUSU < 1336432061 798553 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, google translate doesn't do it justice < 1336432061 980054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Piles of corpses of resentment" < 1336432067 153029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's my new metal album name. < 1336432073 9600 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ...I capitalize randomly because Japan doesn't have capitalization. < 1336432094 590126 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432099 230764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :悪の宇宙へようこそハローお名前とご住所を記入してください。 < 1336432110 635633 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ...I capitalize randomly because Japan doesn't have capitalization. < 1336432114 299623 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432116 362906 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ...I capitalize randomly because Japan doesn't have capitalization. < 1336432117 538129 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432117 895629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :悪の宇宙へようこそハローお名前とご住所を記入してください。 < 1336432119 260328 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336432120 737875 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432123 832821 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432123 963708 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336432126 845977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432129 913684 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432131 957498 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reject your reality and substitute my own. < 1336432132 805085 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432135 816302 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432138 828064 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432141 858044 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432144 515241 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336432144 865016 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432147 871050 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432151 772514 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "Welcome to the space of evil, hello. Please write down your name and address"? < 1336432158 643297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Close enough. < 1336432159 884697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :音声学アルカトラズは、オステオパシーの解釈の赦免をバカ-うねる。 < 1336432170 212647 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_Ô < 1336432185 541052 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what 赦免 is < 1336432191 398664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Phonetics Alcatraz osteopathic moron-undulate exegesis pardoning." < 1336432194 674917 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1336432200 564046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Through the filter of GOOGLE. < 1336432265 300656 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phonetics Alcatraz stupid-twist the pardon of the analysis of osteopathy < 1336432270 927353 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is what I'd have guessed. < 1336432280 928298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_:That is what I eould have say. You have to use kana, only that specific kanji disallow < 1336432297 949500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piles of Corpses of Resentment, by The Pardon of the Analysis of Osteopathy < 1336432378 845256 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ´ー`) < 1336432398 812842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to admit, it's catchy. < 1336432495 437324 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336432621 986738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336432721 159548 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336432724 536381 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336433217 542716 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1336433225 119646 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric