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If you have information about these, or suggest for additional systems to compare, tell me please. 02:14:08 -!- wsaadus has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:14:27 Do you know the maximum number of questions and maximum choices per question and maximum number of results for Quizilla? Do you know what programming language Quizilla and FunTrivia are written in? 02:15:10 zzo38: what are your requirements for "quiz system"? does something like surveymonkey count? 02:16:18 quintopia: No. (Although I may make a way to conduct polls using IRC, in future.) (Also, if you have any feature suggestion of Internet Quiz Engine, tell me that too.) 02:16:30 (Or, if you have any comparison rows to suggest in the table.) 02:16:59 zzo38: define "quiz system" 02:17:35 quintopia: It is difficult. I used Wikipedia's article about "Online quiz" for now 02:18:18 i didnt even know okc was still supporting their quiz system 02:18:25 (There is a German service there, but I do not know well reading German, so I will omit that one unless someone can provide me all the information for each row in the table) 02:20:23 quintopia: As far as I can tell, they are, and no account is required to run the quiz editor on OkCupid, either. And it appears to have some similarities to Internet Quiz Engine. 02:21:15 gopher://zzo38computer.cjb.net:70/0textfile/miscellaneous/onlinequiz.txt http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/textfile/miscellaneous/onlinequiz.txt 02:22:34 If any information is incorrect or missing, and you know the correct entry, please notify me. 02:59:20 -!- david_werecat has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 04:07:22 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 04:09:14 -!- madbr has joined. 04:33:21 -!- azaq23 has joined. 04:33:25 -!- azaq23 has quit (Changing host). 04:33:25 -!- azaq23 has joined. 04:41:25 -!- asiekierka has joined. 04:54:40 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:54:54 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 05:15:28 -!- atran has joined. 05:15:56 -!- azaq23 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:16:40 -!- atran has left. 05:17:18 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 05:17:18 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 05:17:18 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 05:17:29 -!- quintopia has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 05:18:06 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 05:18:22 -!- quintopia has joined. 05:18:24 -!- quintopia has quit (Changing host). 05:18:24 -!- quintopia has joined. 05:43:44 -!- nortti has joined. 06:02:38 * pikhq_ mutters 06:02:50 Why would you stick upscaled video on a Bluray? 06:03:18 "Yeah, uh, it was originally 480i, but... Fuck you, we're giving you 1080p with no gain in quality." 06:25:06 -!- madbr has quit (Quit: Radiateur). 06:42:11 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 06:44:14 pikhq_: because the bluray sells for more money? 06:45:21 -!- nortti has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725]). 06:45:46 -!- impomatic has quit (Quit: impomatic). 06:49:23 No reason you couldn't stick better-compressed 480i or 480p video on there though. 06:50:07 maybe if you do that you can't stick that HD 1080p logo on the back of it 06:59:57 -!- pikhq has joined. 07:03:21 You can't stick in 480p video, it's not legal. 07:03:50 The primary video stream must be one of six "HD" formats, or one of two (480i at NTSC rates, 576i at PAL) "SD" ones. 07:03:52 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 07:04:31 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 07:05:08 (C.f. http://www.blu-raydisc.com/assets/Downloadablefile/BD-ROM_Audio_Visual_Application_Format_Specifications-18780.pdf pages 14-15, "Primary video stream".) 07:06:04 Almost all 480p video is 480p24... And one of the weirder things about MPEG-2 container formats is it's possible to mux 480p24 so that it plays back as a 480i30 stream, which *ought* to be legal on Blu-ray... 07:06:18 (it is on DVDs, and is *extensively* used) 07:06:58 "720x480x59.94-i" is the 480i format, if that's what you mean, yes. 07:07:02 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 07:07:15 Blah, yeah, that. 07:07:53 ... Wait, it's 720x480? The single most ridiculous choice of resolutions? 07:08:21 That's what the pdf above says. 07:08:35 Kay, so the people who did Blu-ray were clueless. 07:08:57 It also says that "real" 480p24 (and 480p23.976) is allowed in the secondary video stream. 07:09:18 (For the picture-in-picture feature.) 07:10:24 720x480 includes the nominal analogue blanking, making it the single least convenient digital video resolution to deal with. 07:10:58 And so nearly everything handles it wrong, instead just playing it as straight 4:3 or 16:9. 07:11:17 haha 07:12:12 Instead of either playing it at the appropriate pixel aspect ratio, or imitating analog TV behavior by displaying the active picture area as 4:3 or 16:9. 07:16:48 -!- nooga has joined. 07:18:06 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:27:28 Well, I mean, one assumes they're following the DVD-Video spec there; according to secondary sources (the official isn't anywhere, of course) it allows (for NTSC) 720x480 and 704x480, but actual "anamorphic" 16:9 only when the "full-D1" (720x480) resolution is used. 07:29:12 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:29:31 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 07:31:55 *Nice* violation of Rec. 601 there. 07:42:19 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 07:42:58 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 07:43:14 -!- lifthrasiir has joined. 07:56:43 -!- Lymee has joined. 07:56:53 -!- Madoka-Kaname has quit (Disconnected by services). 07:56:57 -!- Lymee has changed nick to Madoka-Kaname. 08:00:35 -!- Taneb has joined. 08:01:06 Hello 08:19:20 I played very short Dungeons&Dragons today 08:19:33 Were you all dwarves and halflings? 08:19:35 (hur hur) 08:21:23 But go on 08:21:24 Unless you are going on and I've lost connection, which is a distinct possibility 08:21:24 @ping 08:21:24 Yep, I've lost connection 08:21:24 pong 08:21:25 Bye! 08:21:25 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 08:22:48 Taneb: No. It is continuation of the same game as before, just a session of a short duration. 08:41:57 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 08:43:44 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 08:50:33 -!- pikhq has joined. 08:53:15 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 08:55:00 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 08:55:00 -!- sebbu3 has quit (Changing host). 08:55:00 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 08:59:08 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 09:01:23 o.O new DF 09:01:29 What will be the new nickname? 09:01:34 DF2012 is taken 09:06:32 what 09:06:32 Phantom_Hoover: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. 09:06:41 it'll still be df2012 09:06:55 toady's released like 4 non-save-compatible updates thus far 09:09:32 -!- Taneb has joined. 09:09:46 Hello 09:10:36 Does this mean I'll have to start my fortress AGAIN!? 09:26:08 don't pretend it hasn't been ransacked yet 09:26:42 Phantom_Hoover, is this one non-save-compatible still? 09:28:37 Yes. 09:28:50 It's half the reason I'm get to properly get back into DF. 09:29:11 It's... really not a game for backwards compatibility. 09:29:14 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: Ha! I will put your leg in the sand! And then your face will be in the dirt!). 09:29:40 Phantom_Hoover, I think the notes say that it is save-compatible? 09:30:10 Oh? Good. 09:30:45 omg minecarts look so fun 09:30:59 particularly since they look so weaponisable 09:31:23 To my knowledge, Minecraft only has 5 non-save-compatible families 09:31:40 The first 4 are presumably all really old? 09:31:51 No, the last 3 are on different platforms 09:31:56 There's classic and indev 09:32:07 Oh, mobile and 360. 09:32:16 And then infdev/alpha/beta/"full" release 09:32:22 And mobile and 360 09:32:33 I believe iOS and Android versions are co-compatible 09:44:36 -!- oerjan has joined. 09:46:03 Taneb, really? 09:46:11 I thought on the PC, there have been 4 formats so far. 09:46:27 Yeah, but they included converters 09:46:28 Classic, Beta, first file-system like format, Anvil 09:46:41 And there's been more than that 09:46:51 IIRC, there was one before NBT too 09:47:32 Classic and Indev had their own formats 09:48:24 There's Alpha format, Region format, then Anvil format 10:07:29 -!- cheater_ has joined. 10:10:34 -!- cheater__ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 10:18:36 -!- Taneb has changed nick to Taneb|Hovercraft. 10:19:53 -!- david_werecat has joined. 10:23:00 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 10:26:30 -!- Taneb|Hovercraft has changed nick to Taneb. 10:28:02 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 10:28:14 http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Fuel 10:28:26 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 10:28:28 WE GET THE POINT, THEY'RE IDENTICAL FOR ALL IN-GAME PURPOSES 10:30:11 me too 10:30:13 -!- PatashuXantheres has joined. 10:31:01 PatashuXantheres, you're getting longer 10:31:31 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 10:33:32 On another note, Homestuck Anthem still sounds like a ping-pong match to me 10:42:49 Taneb: Homestuck Anthem and a ping-pong match are identical for all in-game purposes. 11:01:04 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 11:01:04 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 11:01:04 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 11:04:32 -!- sebbu3 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 11:17:39 -!- david_werecat has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 11:21:13 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 11:41:32 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 11:41:32 -!- sebbu3 has quit (Changing host). 11:41:32 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 11:45:09 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 11:46:55 -!- MoALTz has joined. 11:48:38 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 11:49:02 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 11:53:12 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 11:53:26 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 11:53:26 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 11:57:06 -!- sebbu3 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 12:18:00 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 12:38:00 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 12:38:00 -!- sebbu3 has quit (Changing host). 12:38:00 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 12:42:04 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 12:43:10 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 12:43:25 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 12:43:25 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 12:47:08 -!- sebbu3 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 12:58:10 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 12:58:22 -!- sebbu3 has quit (Changing host). 12:58:22 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 13:02:20 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 13:13:13 -!- azaq23 has joined. 13:13:25 -!- azaq23 has quit (Changing host). 13:13:25 -!- azaq23 has joined. 13:33:31 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:33:47 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 13:35:48 kmc: 'sup bro 13:36:39 and bro is of course short for brogrammer 13:40:12 -!- azaq23 has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 13:42:39 -!- derdon has joined. 13:53:25 -!- Dr_Frankenstein has joined. 13:53:39 -!- Dr_Frankenstein has left. 14:09:54 http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1989-05-28/ 14:10:56 -!- sebbu3 has changed nick to sebbu. 14:18:48 the truth about the world is that crime does pay 14:21:35 so if you leave now then who's gonna play? 14:22:14 [or some similar post] 14:22:48 cos i'd like to think the world was a better place 14:23:01 i'd like to leave the world as a better place 14:23:35 ^so if you walk away, then who's gonna stay? 14:24:28 [or some similar post] 14:26:32 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 14:36:01 itidus21 understands 14:37:10 but i acknowledge that it doesn't mean i agree.. nor that i get the meaning of it 14:37:37 not that i don't want to agree or anything 14:47:29 -!- asiekierka_ has joined. 14:47:29 -!- asiekierka has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:51:25 https://images.4chan.org/mu/src/1336752176872.png :> 14:51:46 i still had that open in my browser 14:52:56 -!- pikhq has joined. 14:53:09 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 15:00:38 itidus21: 404 15:00:52 ok 15:01:36 it was that nef quintero thing 15:05:07 oh yeah, gotta love that nef quintero thing 15:05:41 (i.e. no idea what you mean) 15:10:44 nef quintero sounds vaguely familiar 15:11:10 Sounds a bit like something Intel might do 15:14:46 haha yes 15:14:50 although: http://www.facebooktroll.com/2011/06/nef-quintero-is-going-to-hack-into-your-computers-and-beat-you-up/ 15:14:52 heh 15:15:02 -!- variable has changed nick to trout. 15:30:24 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 15:30:49 i'm starting to see things from nef's point of view though 15:31:18 itidus21, read Timecube, tell me how it goes 15:32:00 i have heard of timecube.. i don't want to mess my head up any further honestly 15:32:55 i ended up on one such page.. it was bad enough 15:33:42 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 15:36:57 http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/05/15/congratulations-on-the-divorce-norway/ 15:41:29 -!- ion has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 15:41:57 -!- PatashuXantheres has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 15:42:09 -!- ion has joined. 15:42:45 i guess nef is what i would be if i was more aggressive, rude and risk-taking sort of person 15:43:52 And 20 years younger 15:44:05 :P 15:45:42 gradually i am coming to terms with the core ultimatums, tradeoffs, and decisions of life 16:07:05 -!- Lumpio_ has joined. 16:07:29 -!- Lumpio- has quit (*.net *.split). 16:24:32 -!- zzo38 has joined. 16:24:50 How to compare yesterday's temperature with today? 16:26:08 how is temperature compard? 16:27:03 I'd say about the same? 16:27:55 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:28:57 Taneb: best optimization ever. 16:30:40 I mean in the city I am at 16:30:57 Which city'd that be? 16:31:02 Actually, I mean in Vancouver, BC, which is near where I am at 16:31:20 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 16:32:12 I'd say probably cooler, given the data I've found in 30 secs of looking 16:48:51 what 16:49:00 ubuntu 12.04 installer displays @ubuntu tweets. 16:49:05 the fuck. 16:53:26 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 16:53:28 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 17:09:58 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:10:06 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 17:23:21 "There exist NP-complete problems for which the best known running times have the form O(2^(n^c)) for c < 1, and if the best possible running time for 3-SAT were of this form..." 17:23:51 Why does this say "if"? doesn't a subexponential time algorithm for any NP-complete problem imply a subexponential time algorithm for 3-SAT? 17:24:45 (namely by running the reduction of 3-SAT to that other problem, which involves solving that other problem a polynomial number of times) 17:25:00 cheater_: wow 17:28:45 you know what they should do 17:28:50 dump you onto #ubuntu 17:28:51 and have you chat 17:28:56 it'd be like unreal tournament 17:29:02 have you ever played unreal tournament, kmc? 17:29:33 it has a multiplayer server browser 17:29:58 and it automatically connected to #utgames on some irc server 17:30:21 i used to know the admin of that thing 17:30:27 at some point he got tired of tens of thousands of clients constantly connecting and disconnecting 17:30:41 and blocked the unreal tournament irc client from connecting at all 17:30:45 lolz abound 17:35:03 so kmc, while this yii guy is still trying to figure out my cv (he's sending me questions about it) i got contacted by some guy today for some other php job 17:35:29 apparently i need to know OOP PHP5. 17:36:14 and i need to know how to write APIs. 17:36:31 no sorry 17:36:37 "develop" APIs 17:37:24 and it's a good to have if i can build high availability clusters 17:41:11 kmc: come to europe and write clusters with me 17:41:18 we'll implement NFS over HTTPS 17:41:20 where in europe 17:41:29 i thought you kept up with my migrations 17:41:42 it's local to where i live 17:41:50 because fuck moving for a job right now 17:42:54 actually we could implement NFS over Token Ring over Frame Relay over RS-485 over UDP over HTTP 17:43:14 yes 17:43:25 RS-485 for the win 17:48:02 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 17:51:14 kmc if i have an URL which applies to many reddits then can i link it to all of them 17:51:22 or something 17:51:28 not sure if my wording is correct 17:51:37 i'm not up to it when it comes to new things 17:51:42 i don't know a way other than submitting indivdually to each 17:52:08 yea but is this 1. possible 2. allowed 17:52:15 and also 3. dongs 17:52:33 -!- Taneb has joined. 17:52:55 -!- azaq23 has joined. 17:54:37 i've done it many times and haven't been yelled at 17:54:40 but i kind of hate reddit 17:54:47 but i still submit there because i want my things to be seen 17:57:10 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 17:57:40 haha 17:57:42 same here. 17:57:51 actually there's no "kind of" 17:57:52 reddit is the scum of the earth 17:57:53 kind of like irc 17:58:00 heh 17:58:15 so kmc 17:58:16 move here 17:58:18 we have Bier 17:58:21 and Oktoberfest 17:58:25 and Grossbusige Frauen 17:58:49 or Stahlharte Jungs if you prefer that sort of thing 17:58:50 heh 17:58:55 i learned a new word today 17:58:58 thanks cheater_ 17:59:07 was it 17:59:13 Zygohistopreproconfluence 17:59:21 no it was Grossbusige 17:59:22 that's two words 17:59:28 Stop cheating 17:59:30 so what was your word 17:59:32 oh 17:59:32 ok 17:59:36 cheater_: we have bier in Belgium too! 17:59:41 actually it uses scharfes-s 17:59:48 AnotherTest: but not Bier 17:59:59 Like Großbusige? 18:00:04 yes, like that. 18:00:19 Bier und großbusige Frauen und Schnellzüge 18:00:25 Well the dutch word is 'bier'(without the capital) 18:00:33 Heiße Großbusige Fickstuten 18:01:00 Ich spreiche leider nicht gut Deutsch. 18:01:02 AnotherTest: exactly, that means the edit distance IS NOT ZERO 18:01:07 what's Fickstuten 18:01:20 Aber Ich studiere Deutsch. 18:01:21 it's a composite word 18:01:48 faustfick 18:01:49 Stute is a female equine 18:02:15 kmc: you should capitalize that, otherwise you're not allowed to perform the action 18:04:02 Hm. German is a nice language, at least I think. 18:04:09 Ich haben ein nicht knowledge of the German language 18:04:21 hahaha 18:04:24 Taneb: wins 18:04:31 @trollcoins +100 Taneb 18:04:31 Unknown command, try @list 18:05:31 wow lambdabot you are so uncool 18:05:42 everyone knows trollcoins are the new, free currency 18:05:50 the free currency that anyone can edit 18:06:55 hahahah 18:07:07 @trollcoins +100 kmc 18:07:07 Unknown command, try @list 18:07:15 damnit lambdabot why are you so retarded 18:07:28 why won't you ever learn when we're talking to you 18:07:47 so kmc, i've been thinking about this whole issue of a child learning for years how to do the most basic things 18:07:55 and the AIs not having that much time to themselves 18:08:37 and i think that's kind of bullshit, because people should be able to play back courses to the AI in accelerated time 18:08:42 kind of like a unit test 18:08:51 or a selenium test 18:09:13 brr, my blood chills when i think of an AI raised with a selenium test suite 18:09:47 but wouldn't that be absolutely amazing 18:10:12 to be able to create an intelligence, and finely tune every aspect of its psyche by being able to rewrite every moment in its upbringing 18:10:36 you could have it not only trained by the most amazing people in the world, but also have them go back and fix possible issues 18:11:02 it'd be like the road to perfecting the human psyche 18:11:12 there's a movie in there somewhere 18:11:16 also a joke, but i got nothin' 18:11:55 yes 18:12:04 brb, going to feed birds in the park 18:13:02 -!- asiekierka_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:13:19 -!- pikhq has joined. 18:13:37 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:14:56 omg, kmc you're such a homeless person 18:15:24 i bet "brb" just means "wait while i close the laptop lid and put it in my shopping cart" 18:18:18 He seems to be taking a long while to close the laptop lid 18:19:56 -!- nortti has joined. 18:20:02 don't be fooled, he's on a bouncer 18:20:34 cheater_: the problem is mainly that current (chat) Ai works with detection of patterns but can't place something in a context 18:20:50 so if 2 patterns collide things fuck up 18:20:57 i was talking about ai in general 18:21:05 like, you know, hard intelligence 18:21:29 Computers are probably just not big enough then 18:21:55 and inefficient 18:21:57 awesome! My calcilator broke and ee have math exam (trigonomeyric fictions) tomorrow 18:22:00 I reckon computers are big enough, just nobody's figured out the trick yet 18:22:07 well compared to the human brain of course 18:22:35 nortti, cos 0 = 1; sin 0 = 0 18:22:41 That's all you need to know 18:22:41 Maybe; maybe not. 18:22:49 Taneb: they need a supercomputer to simulate the human brain for less than a second(I read that somewhere) 18:23:32 nortti: just imagine a circle in your mind 18:23:52 They don't need to simulate the human brain to replicate intelligence 18:23:54 Taneb: umh. maybe I just try to use,my slide rule 18:23:59 we couldn't even use a calculate 18:24:03 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 18:24:03 Find a table of trigonometry. Perhaps you can print it out from your computer, if it is permitted 18:24:05 Slide rules have trig? 18:24:12 I thought they did logs 18:24:14 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:24:22 Man, the past is an amazing place 18:24:29 Taneb: well mine has sin 18:24:32 Taneb: true, but it means that intelligence is really complicated 18:24:37 Taneb: My slide rule has trig, logs, and more. Different slide rules have different functions, some are fancy and have many, while some have only multiplication 18:24:39 -!- monqy has joined. 18:24:59 I have a slide rule too 18:25:01 Wow! 18:25:22 I want a slide rule... 18:25:28 i have one in the drawer over there 18:25:35 Can I have it? 18:25:41 i want a curta, but they are ungettable without thousands of dollars 18:25:57 zzo38: I don't have printer. If I write something I use my electronic typewriter 18:26:43 you have a typewriter? are you from the past? 18:26:43 zzo38: do you have a curta 18:26:51 quintopia: try asking your relatives. That's where I got minr 18:27:04 (not curta thoug) 18:27:08 nortti: my relatives are not sciencey 18:27:10 nortti: OK, then you have to type it by hand, even if calculated by computer 18:27:25 quintopia: I do not know what that mean 18:27:37 zzo38: google it 18:28:06 OK, perhaps later I will look it on Google or Wikipedia 18:28:14 olsner: I have time travelled from year 1997 to chat in this channel 18:28:14 use DuckDuckGo 18:28:17 not google 18:28:28 I ordinarily prefer Wikipedia 18:28:33 nortti: cool! welcome to our century, traveller 18:28:55 nortti: Can I barrow your time machine?(assuming that's how you got here) 18:29:01 *borrow 18:29:38 AnotherTest: I don't have time machine. it was xkcd reference 18:29:49 :( 18:29:56 Computers are probably just not big enough then < yeah but improving computer 18:30:03 Computers are probably just not big enough then < yeah but improving computer performance is a solved problem 18:30:29 cheater_: until Moore's law ends 18:30:38 nortti's time machine: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003124 18:30:50 IT NEVER ENDS 18:30:59 people say it is, although I'm not convinced 18:31:06 *will end 18:33:33 i have travelled from the year 1986 to tell you this: you are really young, nortti 18:33:57 yes I am 18:33:58 now, or in 1986? 18:34:15 How old am I? 18:34:20 1997? that's as old as my brother! 18:34:56 cheater_: NEVER might be an overstatement; not in the near future? 18:36:24 NEVER ENDS 18:42:29 well I guess you can keep on making something smaller forever 18:42:48 until it's infinite small 18:43:26 infinite^(-1) 18:45:01 infinite^oo 18:47:11 > 1/0 18:47:12 Infinity 18:47:22 > (1/0)^(-1) 18:47:22 *Exception: Negative exponent 18:47:29 > (1/0)^^(-1) 18:47:30 0.0 18:49:15 > sqrt (1/0) 18:49:16 Infinity 18:50:03 sqrt(1/0)=(1/0)^(-1) 18:51:54 no wait. It is not 18:53:02 (1/0)^(-1)=1/(1/0) 18:53:13 > 1/(1/0) 18:53:14 0.0 18:53:41 >sqrt(-1) 18:53:42 -!- calamari has joined. 18:53:47 -!- calamari has left. 18:53:54 > sqrt(-1) 18:53:55 NaN 18:54:03 no complex? 18:54:33 > 0/0 18:54:34 NaN 18:54:48 > 0%0 18:54:49 *Exception: Ratio.%: zero denominator 19:02:53 > sqrt (-1) :: Complex 19:02:54 Expecting an ordinary type, but found a type of kind * -> * 19:02:59 > sqrt (-1) :: Complex Double 19:03:00 (-0.0) :+ 1.0 19:03:05 :) 19:03:21 > + 1 2 3 4 19:03:22 : parse error on input `+' 19:03:27 Why doesn't that work? 19:03:38 I thought operators were prefix in lambda expressions 19:03:38 Because + is infix 19:03:48 This is Haskell, not Lambda 19:03:51 ah 19:03:57 that explains 19:04:08 > (+) 1 2 + (+) 3 4 19:04:09 10 19:04:32 > a = 5; a^2 19:04:32 : parse error on input `=' 19:04:36 hm 19:04:40 > let a = 5 in a ^ 2 19:04:41 25 19:04:46 @where lyah 19:04:46 http://www.learnyouahaskell.com/ 19:04:49 -!- nooga has joined. 19:04:53 I don't know haskell, unfortunately 19:04:55 Read that if you want to learn Haskel 19:04:56 l 19:05:09 I will I have have some time 19:05:10 do most people who learn haskell already know LC? :D 19:05:26 itidus21, I'd presume not 19:06:35 @where rwh 19:06:35 http://www.realworldhaskell.org/blog/ http://book.realworldhaskell.org/read/ 19:06:43 AnotherTest, that's another alternative 19:07:23 > let a = 0 in a/a 19:07:23 NaN 19:07:26 :) 19:07:33 > join (/) 0 19:07:33 NaN 19:07:45 (you don't need to know why that works until later) 19:07:56 judging by the way my face grinched at the idea .. i won't ask that question again 19:09:42 `pastelog itidus 19:09:58 `quote commitee 19:10:02 No output. 19:10:07 `quote comittee 19:10:13 597) I think this has taught us one thing. We can't teach itidus20 lambda calculus by comittee 19:10:19 2011-07-16.txt:00:00:57: -!- itidus20 has joined #esoteric. \ 2011-07-16.txt:03:40:55: zzo, sort of like how stage hypnosis is supposed to work eh. \ 2011-07-16.txt:03:42:10: i've seen an [obviously staged] video of a guy who hypnotized a woman to think he was invisible and then he would tickle her with a feather and make her look up with confusion \ 2011-07-16.txt:03:42:20: on youtube 19:10:40 eep 19:13:12 `pastelog itidus 19:13:24 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25272 19:13:41 -!- ais523 has joined. 19:14:55 oh gods.. i'm really the worst. 19:16:06 itidus21, you're great. 19:16:12 We all love you for being you. 19:17:23 Isn't that right, ais523? 19:17:51 -!- myndzi has joined. 19:17:51 i like me.. its not a cause for guilt or sympathy.. but.. comparing myself to other wild ones who come here 19:18:26 i am really on my own trip.. 19:18:49 Your rambles really cheer me up 19:19:21 kmc: are you still homeless 19:19:27 or are you back 19:20:24 the reason i looked up my logs is to find a particular ramble.. and i wanted to see if something i just did was unconcious plagiarism :D 19:22:13 -!- oerjan has joined. 19:24:32 Taneb: it's better for someone to be themself than someone else 19:24:33 usually 19:25:00 -!- oerjan has quit (Client Quit). 19:37:41 itidus20: i think it's better to prevent reaching the middle altogether 19:37:47 i have to finally agree 19:38:58 Taneb: imagine a square where the sides are glued to each other, but not by actually bending the square, instead by making the sides be teleportation portals... 19:39:13 he has a way with words.. 19:40:31 But topologically I think it would be the same thing either way 19:40:57 yes.. what i ended up doing was very simple.. diabolically simple even 19:41:19 -!- Aardwolf has joined. 19:43:53 http://oi50.tinypic.com/xxd89.jpg 19:44:30 the circle is a HUD map.. which basically was the missing piece i needed combined with what oklo said that middle of the thing shouldn't be accessible 19:46:01 since the HUD map could potentially go a long way to create the illusion that you are walking around a round planet 19:49:11 bye 19:49:27 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 19:51:35 the quality of mspaintadventures seems way up 19:54:08 no no im just very confused 19:55:07 itidus21, http://www.mspaintadventures.com/cascade.php?s=6&p=6009 19:56:52 i just remembered this really low quality art about 2 guys doing some weird stuff 19:57:54 cheater_: i'm back 19:57:58 the birds didn't want my food 19:58:30 itidus21, it hasn't been like that since 2006 19:58:48 In 2007, it was medium quality about one guy doing some weird stuff 20:01:04 which was that 20:05:13 -!- itidus21 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 20:06:33 Wearing wizard hats and marx masks and smoking pipes 20:07:00 Now it's high quality art about LOADS AND LOADS OF FREAKING CHARACTERS doing REALLY WEIRD STUFF 20:07:43 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: goodnight). 20:12:53 -!- itidus21 has joined. 20:13:18 blackout 20:13:23 for a few seconds 20:14:01 taneb: that was too creepy for me 20:19:15 Please read gopher://zzo38computer.cjb.net:70/0phlog*c_prog.ibtlfmm-part-i 20:20:03 kmc: i don't think i'd want your food either. 20:20:25 it's probably full of tobasco. 20:20:47 What kind of food is it? 20:23:09 zzo38: that is a super sketchy URL 20:23:16 cheater_: it was stale bread 20:23:19 like croutons almost 20:23:22 no tobasco 20:24:28 you apparently must still improve at being the pidgeon lady 20:24:36 pigeon too 20:25:36 pidgin lady 20:25:39 the problem is, we had competition 20:25:44 some guy throwing fresh bread 20:25:47 lol 20:25:50 who's we 20:25:53 damn city pigeons, they have it so good 20:25:55 are you having a social life 20:25:56 me and my girlfriend 20:25:58 yes 20:26:01 not true 20:26:09 is she a 45 year old truck driver 20:26:17 no 20:26:18 with hairy elbows 20:26:23 ok 20:26:30 i'm just a splatter, splatter, splatter on the windshield of life 20:26:38 is she interesting and h0t 20:26:40 yeah 20:26:55 is she more interesting and h0t than me 20:27:52 i don't know cheater_ 20:28:29 you inched this ----> <---- close to getting your head ripped off 20:28:34 safe answer 20:30:23 so kmc 20:30:37 does this mean i'm not your #1 any more 20:35:15 haha 20:35:20 no 20:37:34 so i have not been replaced as your only reason to get up in the morning 20:37:51 ok good 20:38:27 hey btw, have you noticed that the new logitech keyboards have this funny rounded space bar 20:38:42 instead of like the classical rectangular bar 20:39:03 much easier to hit with the thumb 20:39:31 how is it rounded? 20:42:24 it tapers off so the front edge is much lower than the edge facing the keys 20:55:12 -!- Sgeo has joined. 21:17:55 I' 21:19:11 -!- Tod-Autojoined has joined. 21:19:17 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:31:38 kmc: What does a super sketchy URL mean? 21:37:33 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 21:59:21 R.U. a Cyberpunk? http://d.asset.soup.io/asset/3167/2077_6fd2.jpeg 22:15:13 how old id that image? 22:16:12 -!- tiMMe has joined. 22:16:21 Hello all bright minds 22:16:31 after a bit of research I found this irc chan 22:16:51 hi tiMMe 22:16:53 `? welcome 22:16:55 Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 22:17:26 I could use some help with decoding a ''turing esoteric'' code 22:17:45 ah, OK 22:17:54 you have a program in an esolang but don't know the language? or something else? 22:18:14 no, Its a hobby of mine.. and to get to the next hint.. i need to crack this one 22:18:25 I had no idea what this was before 10 min ago 22:18:28 you're missing some context, I think 22:18:56 -!- MoALTz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:19:23 as in, you haven't given me enough information to explain what you're trying to do 22:19:27 -!- MoALTz has joined. 22:19:41 Allright.. 22:20:04 well this is somewhat like a treasure hunt.. the clue i need to get to the next part, is decrypted.. 22:20:16 encrypted? 22:20:20 -!- olsner has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 22:20:24 well, I don't know what to call it 22:20:27 -!- Phantom_Hoover has left ("Leaving"). 22:20:31 its written in this coe 22:20:33 code* 22:20:51 Could I post a pastebin link, and you could take a look at it 22:20:59 OK, might help to explain things 22:21:57 Would you mind taking a look at it for me? maybe you'll understand it 22:22:06 I already said OK… 22:22:10 http://pastebin.com/eLJVk507 22:22:11 thank you 22:23:35 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 22:24:50 I cannot figure it out yet, but I tried. I can see it consists of letters P,Q,R,S,T,U,V and spaces. 22:25:23 tiMMe: are you sure that's an esolang? or just a regular code? 22:25:29 I guess regular codes are almost ontopic here too… 22:25:48 well I asked for another hint, and he said turing esoteric 22:25:50 Including long runs of Q, some runs of T as well. But, I do am just guessing it to be a regular code, and not any kind of computer program 22:26:16 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 22:26:19 * Phantom_Hoover -> sleep 22:26:20 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:26:35 Its probably only a code, not a computer program 22:27:00 this channel's mostly about programming 22:27:03 if you decypher it, it will give me directions, coordinates or something 22:27:12 okay.. sorry about that. had no idea 22:27:38 Do you have any idea where I could get help with this type of thing? 22:27:46 not sure 22:27:56 here's probably not actually that bad a place, even though it's offtopic 22:28:03 There is probably a significance to the offsets between the letters, i.e. it's encoding something like 1,0,0,1,1,-2,0,0,... 22:28:23 Well you guys came to more conclutions in 2 min, than me and my friends did in 4-5 hours :P 22:28:31 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 22:28:44 Discuss it here if you want; we are often not on topic anyways, but you can try something more relevant channel may work 22:28:50 Gregor: I was thinking of that too 22:29:16 perhaps the six letters correspond to the six 3D compass directions? 22:29:24 could be forming the route through a 3D maze 22:29:25 I also noticed the sequence "PQQQRSQQQQPTUSQV PQQQQQQQQQRSTTTTTTTTTPTUSTV" appearing twice 22:29:55 Also, every code word ends with "V" 22:30:04 Above the "code" it says this : Crack the code to find its whereabouts... | That's why I think its coordinates 22:30:08 Oh, good catches, both. 22:30:44 In fact, they all contain PTUS, then zero or more (but few) characters, then V at the end. 22:30:58 (And all start with PQQ, but that's a bit more obvious) 22:31:23 Actually, the offsets between the letters do not seem relevant to me due to the way what letters are used and their patterns 22:31:38 Gregor: But, yes those too, are something to consider 22:32:21 -!- nortti has quit (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com )). 22:32:38 -!- derdon has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:33:43 Would you want the website where I've gotten the code? Maybe its easier to look at it there 22:34:03 tiMMe: Do you have any more context, such as, what would this be the whereabouts of? 22:34:14 yeah, look at this link 22:34:15 http://coord.info/GC3K55F 22:40:51 -!- Aardwolf has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:42:57 hmm 22:45:21 That is difficult. 22:46:23 could it be one of those languages where its not concerned with the symbols but the patterns they form? 22:46:52 Possibly 22:47:32 Nevertheless I think that the spaces delimit code words and each one is separate from each other 22:55:07 -!- david_werecat has joined. 22:59:38 -!- Nisstyre has changed nick to trollstyre. 23:00:31 1)each codeword always starts with P 23:00:38 2)after intial P there is always a sequence of 2 - 9 Q's 23:00:48 3)after the sequence of Q's there is always RS 23:01:02 4)the RS is always followed by either a sequence of 3 - 10 Q's or a sequence of 3 - 9 T's 23:03:24 5)this is always followed by PTU 23:04:57 looks like it could be regular 23:05:14 i mean the language from which words between spaces are taken 23:06:17 Let's see 23:06:25 tiMMe: So is this from Dropbox or notch 23:06:29 rather. 1 - 2 PTU's 23:08:05 -!- olsner has joined. 23:08:20 dropbox or notch ? what do you mean 23:08:55 anyway, someone cracked it for me ;D on a norwegian forum 23:09:10 ook, what was this from anyways 23:09:29 i got what i said above wrong 23:10:21 tiMMe: do tell 23:11:45 im guessing that Q and T are like brainfuck's + and - in some way 23:12:03 I assumed that Q was + since it was the most of it. And since there were an equal amount of R and U they had to be [ and ], R came first so it had to be [. I saw on a example program that they started with > So I assumed that was P. I guessed the rest, only 7 tsigns total, so few options. 23:13:22 oh. 23:13:49 what an impure puzzle. 23:14:01 oklopol: are you making a Haskell joke? 23:14:06 no 23:14:15 good 23:14:18 ...somehow it made me think of brainfuck too 23:14:22 I'm not sure if we have a defined punishment for Haskell jokes 23:14:24 But I didn't bother to actually run it. 23:14:28 but an undefined punishment is arguably worse 23:14:28 i just don't like puzzles where you have to know something to crack it 23:14:37 Looks like rather crude brainfuck though 23:14:45 Probably a full program for each letter of output 23:14:59 :O 23:15:04 doubt it 23:15:12 Lumpio_: It is what I thought, too 23:15:19 But perhaps not quite 23:15:41 i should not have given such red herrings 23:15:44 in my analysis 23:16:00 hmm 23:16:20 yeah okay so letters are really that short to produce based on the constants page on esolang 23:16:24 Or maybe each code word is a program or something else but standalone, and put together. Either by letter, or by numbers... 23:16:35 copypaste from there? 23:19:16 ^bf >++[<+++>-]>+..++. 23:19:16 23:19:54 ^bf >++[<+++>-]<+..++. 23:19:54 23:21:59 -!- tiMMe has quit (Quit: Page closed). 23:22:43 ^bf >++[<--->-]<-. 23:22:43 ù 23:22:59 http://pastebin.com/bD0E1vmr 23:23:14 the punishment for Haskell jokes shall be unspecified behavior 23:23:36 is that a haskell joke 23:24:26 no it's a C joke 23:24:40 ^bf <++[>+++<-]>+..++. 23:24:40 23:32:09 -!- elliott has joined. 23:32:25 Her finner du cachen: N 59 23.148 E 010 25.557 23:32:37 ^bf >+++[<+++[<++++++++>-]>-]<<. 23:32:37 H 23:33:15 okay that's not from the constants page 23:33:19 what a prick 23:33:22 -!- Patashu has joined. 23:33:30 prick? 23:33:31 yes it wasn't codewords at all 23:33:49 the H gets everything prepared >.< 23:34:07 i see. 23:34:34 why have i still not made a programming language puzzle :( 23:34:59 i had a language half-made for it, but i never bothered to finish and publish it and it's gone now 23:35:12 its a simple text replace. timme was right about R and U 23:35:40 based on the H he was right about everything 23:36:22 ^ Her finner du cachen: N 59 23.148 E 010 25.557 :D 23:36:49 you said that already, what's your point 23:37:14 achtung du cachen 23:37:18 im.. 23:37:21 an asshole 23:37:29 you are? 23:37:41 a bit 23:37:41 die nyankatze! 23:37:44 http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/73/73315.jpg 23:38:17 aww cute 23:40:37 "god is dead" -- nyankatze 23:41:21 thachaf 23:42:14 :o 23:57:50 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds).