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00:14:59 <ion> Triple facepalm. There’s someone on IRC with a problem: he’s hosting an interactive web map of his Minecraft world. The users of the gentleman’s map keep getting blacklisted. You see, he’s using a brilliant security program that bans clients who keep receiving HTTP 4xx responses, and map areas with no content are disclosed to clients with HTTP 404.
00:16:52 <elliott> What channels do you even hang out in that get problems like that? I want to join them.
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00:22:00 <ion> Oh, just #donttellelliottaboutthischannel
00:22:07 <ion> Whoops, i wasn’t supposed to tell you about it.
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00:29:54 <elliott> 01:29 <elliott> !lg * min=dur
00:29:54 <elliott> 01:29 <Sequell> 1630445. ion the Slicer (L11 DSFi), worshipper of Okawaru, slain by a queen bee on D:12 on 2009-08-07, with 11282 points after 17153 turns and -6:02:09.
00:29:59 <elliott> It's about to be on FooTV. :P
00:31:30 <elliott> ion: So what's with that? And why did you use an even bigger terminal in 2009?
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00:51:14 <ion> elliott: A broken system clock on a game server, i guess.
00:51:19 <ion> elliott: What was my terminal size?
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01:00:45 <elliott> I don't like people who clear lambdabot messages before speaking in channels.
01:00:46 <lambdabot> elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
01:01:01 <ion> EVERYTHING.
01:01:12 <monqy> but what if I don't have anything to say here then how will I check my messages!!
01:01:12 <lambdabot> monqy: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
01:01:26 <monqy> yeah but I had something to say
01:01:57 <Gregor> @tell nobodyinparticular I hate people who leave messages to nonexistent nicks on lambdabot, thereby taking up its disk space for absolutely no reason.
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01:02:19 <elliott> I don't think even I can remove that.
01:02:43 <Gregor> I wasn't even thinking about the length.
01:02:58 <elliott> 02:02 <elliott> @print-notices
01:02:58 <elliott> 02:02 <lambdabot> fromList [("\SI",(Nothing,[Note {noteSender = "Sgeo", noteContents = "that I said hi", noteTime = (1336513878,173020000000), noteType = Tell}])),[...]
01:03:03 <elliott> Sgeo is still the most ruiner.
01:03:16 <ion> @@ @tell elliott @quote
01:03:26 <lambdabot> elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
01:03:28 <lambdabot> ion said 11s ago: kilimanjaro says: the bad kind of laziness is "so they just invent an equivalance class of monotonic continuous functions that `represent' that partial order. but they haven't
01:08:31 <Gregor> I never remember the args for that
01:09:16 <HackEgo> hitte haw lup station ovzai knolek gatomianec epitatethy vilt anik moiieyuehr fttive hista caperadi dissen clon kersolum wbent akpackada packforen ableptally pazar balla spher cef
01:09:27 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29925
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01:26:50 <zzo38> Did you read the longer message I wrote about Ibtlfmm programming so far? I may write the second message later on too.
01:27:01 <zzo38> It is an entire fire
01:28:38 <zzo38> I didn't write everything so I will then write the second one
01:38:38 <zzo38> Another thing, I would like in Ibtlfmm, possibly a Haskell compiler could implement it too, but I don't know of any way to do this in Haskell, is: You can load a program dynamically (dynLoad :: Typeable x => FilePath -> IO x) and then x is the type of main in whatever file you are loading (you get an error if the types do not match).
01:39:37 <zzo38> Is there any Haskell compiler with anything like this?
01:41:26 <elliott> hint lets you write a function like that.
01:41:35 <elliott> In fact, with that exact type.
01:41:36 <elliott> http://hackage.haskell.org/package/hint
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01:54:24 <elliott> hint exposes the GHC API in a simple manner.
01:54:39 <elliott> You just need loadModules + interpret.
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01:57:19 <zzo38> But what if it is a binary file which is not a package?
02:08:25 <monqy> ~ is like right next to !!!
02:08:33 <elliott> do you have a key that inserts "!!!"
02:08:40 <elliott> anyway im going to stick with "omee~"
02:08:49 <elliott> `addquote <monqy> ophanim: omee~
02:08:52 <HackEgo> 854) <monqy> ophanim: omee~
02:09:07 <HackEgo> *poof* <monqy> ophanim: omee~
02:09:19 <HackEgo> 853) <pikhq> I vastly prefer "a blind idiot god". <quintopia> pikhq: to what? <pikhq> To the idea of someone actually intentionally designing a mouse.
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02:18:02 <HackEgo> *poof* <pikhq> I vastly prefer "a blind idiot god". <quintopia> pikhq: to what? <pikhq> To the idea of someone actually intentionally designing a mouse.
02:18:20 <quintopia> apparently, only funny things are allowed to be quoted
02:19:38 <elliott> please contact the retention department
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02:20:09 <HackEgo> 39) <mycroftiv> [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective
02:20:22 <HackEgo> 95) <Gregor> I don't know that I've ever heard apocalypi described in terms of depth ...
02:20:23 <HackEgo> 200) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, let's reduce the human genome to 4 chromosomes, in 2 homologous pairs.
02:20:24 <HackEgo> 19) <fungot> oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him!
02:20:53 <monqy> what a great 5 quote
02:21:01 <elliott> monqy: which will you delete ????
02:21:04 <elliott> are you saying they're all bad
02:21:07 <elliott> i think they're mostly good :(
02:21:40 <monqy> tempted to delete 606
02:22:30 <HackEgo> 785) <olsner> what a world it would be if you could actually *steal* code so that the other project has to rewrite it or infiltrate your project to steal it back
02:22:35 <HackEgo> 227) <asiekierka> GCC: -Os -O2 -O3 gives a 4x improvment
02:22:42 <HackEgo> 829) <calamari> there was a time when I liked wearing a tie too.. I was a mormon. not claiming one has to be a religious nutcase to wear a tie, of course
02:22:45 <HackEgo> 837) <Gregor> Very much like "cen" is Latin for "horse", "yak" is Latin for "yak".
02:22:46 <HackEgo> 117) <fungot> alise: nobody is allowed to fnord me in soviet russia
02:23:22 <zzo38> Is it permitted to specify -O2 and -O3 together?
02:23:34 <monqy> `quoteaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
02:23:37 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quoteaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: not found
02:24:15 <monqy> i'm bad at choices :(
02:24:37 <elliott> ypou're even worse than me at choices maybe
02:24:40 <elliott> how did you manage to do anythng
02:24:47 <monqy> i dont get 227 is it funny
02:25:04 <elliott> 227 is funny because asiekierka did not realise those options cannot be used together
02:25:08 <elliott> and was doing some "benchmarking"
02:25:24 <elliott> and compared -Os -O2 -O3 to -O2 or something
02:25:40 <Gregor> It's hard to imagine -O2 to -O3 being a 4x improvement.
02:25:41 <elliott> theres two types of allowed quotes
02:25:43 <Gregor> Not impossible, but hard.
02:25:52 <elliott> and quotes that exist to shame or mock the person quoted
02:26:00 <HackEgo> 315) <monqy> I've only watched bad movies about video game. I enjoyed every second of it. \ 355) <monqy> my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup \ 358) <monqy> `quote django
02:26:34 <zzo38> I also dislike quotation 606, it is the only one I have seen so far which I would vote to delete; it is too short and small
02:26:36 <monqy> if i had a time machine i would clone old monqy and make friends with him
02:26:53 <monqy> i would also need a clone machine
02:26:56 <elliott> monqy: the time machine is within you!!!
02:27:05 <elliott> `addquote <monqy> if i had a time machine i would clone old monqy and make friends with him <monqy> i would also need a clone machine
02:27:08 <HackEgo> 855) <monqy> if i had a time machine i would clone old monqy and make friends with him <monqy> i would also need a clone machine
02:27:44 <HackEgo> 518) <itidus20> well, you have bested me <zzo38> itidus20: Yes.
02:28:02 <HackEgo> 765) <fungot> elliott: but, there are imps around, the pad. it's hard to remember though your cross-hairs would never settle on an innocent little girl. chokes up now imagine she's white.
02:28:03 <HackEgo> 253) <elliott> Deewiant: ha, you were wrong, I have stacks, fungespace and MULTIPLE functions! <elliott> and a monad! <elliott> nothing can stop me now!
02:28:04 <elliott> i don't even have to see the others to know that
02:28:05 <HackEgo> 261) [on egojoust] <elliott> The fact is that EgoBot's % handling is O(slow) and O(big), and mine isn't.
02:28:05 <HackEgo> 592) [from 2009] <fizzie> That's confusing. I have been indoctrinated to believe W|A, but on the other hand it's hard to unbelieve a book with such a ridiculously impressive name as "Handbook of physical testing of paper, Volume 2".
02:28:38 <zzo38> No you have to compare all of them to consider which one is best, unless it is like numeric with one highest infinity involved
02:28:42 <elliott> probably should delete one of mine
02:28:45 <elliott> zzo38: yes, it's exactly like that
02:28:59 <Gregor> Five months tongue-face-smiley free!
02:29:02 <monqy> of your quotes i vote for 253 or 261
02:29:05 <Gregor> I almost didn't even notice!
02:29:18 <monqy> I've learned a valuable life lesson never to use tongue face smiley
02:29:33 <HackEgo> *poof* <elliott> Deewiant: ha, you were wrong, I have stacks, fungespace and MULTIPLE functions! <elliott> and a monad! <elliott> nothing can stop me now!
02:29:36 <elliott> monqy: what was the lesson
02:29:37 <monqy> feel free to delquote 260 as well
02:29:43 <monqy> never to use tongue face smiley
02:30:00 <elliott> monqy: when was the lesson
02:30:01 <quintopia> was this something you committed to doing?
02:30:20 <HackEgo> 571) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, making myself emergency doctor on the advice of IRC.
02:30:22 <HackEgo> 246) <A. Gelman and G. Romero> We originally wrote this article in Word, but then we converted it to Latex to make it look more like science.
02:30:24 <HackEgo> 459) <Taneb> That offers me some social standing, feudal system wise
02:30:25 <HackEgo> 100) <Miya> I perceived it so hard I actually went away :O
02:30:31 <HackEgo> 323) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh, Hitler! You and your wacky antics!
02:30:51 <HackEgo> *poof* <Phantom_Hoover> Oh, Hitler! You and your wacky antics!
02:31:06 <monqy> can delete 100 too if you feel it in you
02:31:47 <elliott> i would have gone for 100 imo but otoh 100 is traditional
02:32:17 <elliott> actually i think im going to
02:32:27 <elliott> you can put it back if you want
02:32:59 <HackEgo> 244) <nddrylliog> elliott: are you kidding? you're horrible, horrible people. That's why I feel at home here.
02:33:05 <HackEgo> 602) <Gregor> Hulu's movie selection is like MST3K without the MST3K characters.
02:33:15 <HackEgo> 711) <itidus21> myndzi\: ok so one of the nastiest puzzles i suppose is... you're on death row.. you don't want to die.
02:33:15 <HackEgo> 578) <Phantom_Hoover> THERE WAS A VISIBLE SUPERNOVA AND NOBODY FUCKING TOLD ME??????????????????????????/
02:33:17 <HackEgo> 249) <ais523> gah, why does lose keep winning?
02:34:31 <HackEgo> *poof* <Phantom_Hoover> THERE WAS A VISIBLE SUPERNOVA AND NOBODY FUCKING TOLD ME??????????????????????????/
02:34:38 <HackEgo> *poof* <ais523> gah, why does lose keep winning?
02:34:43 <elliott> you only delete one monqy!!
02:34:54 <monqy> i meant to delquote 244
02:34:58 <elliott> two really really bad ones
02:35:04 <HackEgo> *poof* <nddrylliog> elliott: are you kidding? you're horrible, horrible people. That's why I feel at home here.
02:35:06 <elliott> that one is pretty lame yes
02:35:15 <HackEgo> 12) <fungot> GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know.
02:35:15 <elliott> it's a hard job but we do it
02:35:22 <HackEgo> 97) <Keiya> Why are the cops in GTA always so obsessed with my asshole?
02:35:34 <HackEgo> 601) <Gregor> Let us discuss the correct procedure for converting LP -> FLAC <fizzie> The correct procedure is: you put the LP into a flatbed scanner, scan it as a Windows .bmp file, and then rename that file to .flac.
02:35:34 <HackEgo> 100) <Miya> I perceived it so hard I actually went away :O
02:35:36 <HackEgo> 711) <kallisti> interestingly enough it takes about as much time for a person to produce cfunge as it does to create a baby.
02:35:58 <HackEgo> *poof* <Keiya> Why are the cops in GTA always so obsessed with my asshole?
02:36:10 <HackEgo> 476) <itidus20> It's ok guys. I am doing what I can to keep my psyche and ego surviving. All the while the threat of ww3 looms, the mortality of family and friends(loved ones?) and sooner or llater my own mortality.
02:36:14 <HackEgo> 433) <Sgeo> Dear eHow: Please don't assume that my toilet works like that <Sgeo> Or, at least, my toilet looks different
02:36:24 <HackEgo> 184) <Sgeo> HOT SEXY SEX BITS
02:36:24 <HackEgo> 515) <itidus20> well, you have bested me <zzo38> itidus20: Yes.
02:36:27 <HackEgo> 646) <fizzie> If you jump a car from a ramp and hit the wall of a building, in midair, you tend to get ejected up and fly to the sky-ceiling, then slowly slide at that height to one corner of the world; then you land, make a complicated spinning-around thing for a while, and then explode. <fizzie> Also probably works in real life?
02:36:46 <monqy> i can't decide if 184 is good or not
02:36:54 <elliott> 184 is something i don't think we can ever delete
02:36:59 <monqy> yeah it's traditional
02:37:00 <zzo38> 515 is what was 518 until some were deleted
02:37:08 <elliott> monqy: that can only be sarcastic ;(
02:37:20 <monqy> don't worry i decided like it!!
02:37:24 <HackEgo> 312) <monqy> I've only watched bad movies about video game. I enjoyed every second of it. \ 352) <monqy> my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup \ 355) <monqy> `quote django
02:37:33 <monqy> what does that mean
02:37:38 <monqy> all of my quotes are over 300?
02:37:39 <elliott> you joined when there were only ~300 quotes
02:37:41 <elliott> this is how we rank people now
02:37:48 <elliott> well you got addquoted soon after you joined
02:37:50 <elliott> because you were hilarious
02:37:57 <monqy> what if i joined later but the quotes got delquoted
02:38:06 <elliott> well these are the quotes now
02:38:11 <elliott> "our quote id system sucks"
02:38:17 <elliott> did you know the quote ids used to be not reused
02:38:21 <elliott> when it used -- seriously -- sqlite
02:38:34 <monqy> i want to be hilarious again :'(
02:38:46 <HackEgo> 501) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh god. <Phantom_Hoover> I've become a metallurgy hipster.
02:38:51 <HackEgo> 786) <fizzie> fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that? <fungot> fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord
02:38:52 <quintopia> man i love one-to-one mappings of numders to quotes
02:39:00 <quintopia> would that we could have them back
02:39:00 <HackEgo> 50) <ehird> no Deewiant <Deewiant> No?! <Deewiant> I've been living a lie <ehird> yep. <Deewiant> Excuse me while I jump out of the window ->
02:39:00 <HackEgo> 338) <crystal-cola> 3 = 7/2
02:39:04 <HackEgo> 541) <Phantom_Hoover> The only happy dorf has a compassion stat of 0. <Phantom_Hoover> Well, 20, but it amounts to the same.
02:39:29 <HackEgo> *poof* <Phantom_Hoover> The only happy dorf has a compassion stat of 0. <Phantom_Hoover> Well, 20, but it amounts to the same.
02:39:39 <elliott> monqy: were you ever here for fax
02:39:47 <elliott> aka crystal-cola aka j-invariant aka faxathisia
02:39:53 <elliott> aka quantumEd aka MissPigy aka uhhh soupdragon
02:39:57 <monqy> apparently i joined before 338 but i don't remember this
02:40:13 <elliott> it's impossible to explain if you don't remember fax really
02:40:56 <elliott> `pastelogs [<]crystal-cola[>]
02:41:05 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.19740
02:41:47 <elliott> 2011-04-21.txt:15:02:26: <crystal-cola> anyway I've stopped ``trolling''
02:41:47 <elliott> 2011-04-21.txt:15:02:44: <crystal-cola> since apparently you guys don't like me claiming obviously false and absurd claims
02:41:52 <elliott> god this paste is the best ever
02:42:41 <elliott> monqy: read all of that and you'll probably understand crystal-cola
02:42:45 <elliott> even the first few pages of trolling
02:43:19 <HackEgo> 834) <olsner> they call finnish human-readable?
02:43:24 <HackEgo> 268) <nddrylliog> back to legal tender, that expression really makes me daydream. Like, there'd be black-market tender. Out-of-town hug shops where people exchange tenderness you've NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
02:43:32 <HackEgo> 469) <Vorpal> ais523, how are we supposed to guess before you tell us unless you give us more hints?
02:43:33 <HackEgo> 125) <Mathnerd314> Gregor-P: I don't think lambda calculus is powerful enough
02:43:34 <HackEgo> 375) <fizzie> You make a fist, shake it at the sky, and shout "why, GNU, why?!" -- that is the standard reportig practice.
02:44:01 <elliott> i like 268 and 375 and probably 469
02:44:14 <elliott> and 125 falls under the shaming/mockery categroy
02:46:20 <monqy> "with quote, life"
02:46:25 <HackEgo> 595) <elliott> Dear god stop staring at me. <monqy> no never <Phantom_Hoover> monqy is always staring at everyone. <monqy> it takes many eyes to do this but I manage <Phantom_Hoover> He is an inspiration to us all.
02:46:30 <elliott> monqy: didnt you mean semicolon there
02:46:33 <shachaf> monqy: "do you like stroopwafels too"
02:46:43 <HackEgo> 586) <elliott> Vorpal: who needs cars when you can walk to latvia
02:46:46 <HackEgo> 739) <zzo38> When you die in Canada, you die in real life.
02:46:46 <monqy> shachaf: whats a stroopwafels
02:46:47 <HackEgo> 170) <calamari> I got a game in my cereal box and I want to run it lol
02:46:48 <HackEgo> 655) <elliott> Magnetic butterfly is slower than cat and restarting if you make a mistake is slower than vi is slower than mind-reading.
02:47:04 <shachaf> monqy: "its good, you like it"
02:47:46 <HackEgo> *poof* <calamari> I got a game in my cereal box and I want to run it lol
02:48:01 <HackEgo> 219) <fizzie> And to think: if only we wouldn't celebrate birthdays, there would be no birthday paradox, and we could get by with half as long hash functions. (What do you mean it doesn't work that way?)
02:48:12 <HackEgo> 312) <oklopol> and then there's the slightly annoying one where suddenly, i start rolling forward and i can't stop <oklopol> like i can be having some great sex dream or whatever and then suddenly "oh god not this again" <oklopol> (i go "not this again" but not necessarily realize it's a dream)
02:48:30 <HackEgo> 145) <AnMaster> cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH <Phantom_Hoover> AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here.
02:48:48 <HackEgo> 299) <ZOMGMODULES> elliott: parents who put just "Chris" on a birth certificate are... like parents who put just "Bob" on a birth certificate.
02:48:50 <HackEgo> 170) <catseye> i like the feeling of freedom you get driving a bus
02:48:50 <HackEgo> 817) <Taneb> I don't even know set theory I haven't a clue what is going on <Taneb> wow got that 1 right
02:49:17 <elliott> monqy: were you around for cpressey/catseye/ZOMGMODULES visiting us regularly
02:49:25 <elliott> i fear you might have missed it and i'm so sorry for you
02:49:28 <monqy> ive seen ZOMGMODULES around but i dont think so :(
02:49:37 <monqy> i feel sorry for me too
02:49:48 <HackEgo> *poof* <Taneb> I don't even know set theory I haven't a clue what is going on <Taneb> wow got that 1 right
02:50:08 <shachaf> monqy: "if eel sor ryfory ou"
02:52:09 <HackEgo> 211) <Goosey> I can play crysis, but not minecraft?
02:52:12 <HackEgo> 265) <elliott> lol @ closed character set standard <elliott> "What does this codepoint represent?" "Nobody knows."
02:52:23 <HackEgo> 212) <zzo38> Maybe they should just get rid of Minecraft. If more people want it someone can make using GNU GPL v3 or later version, with different people, might improve slightly.
02:52:25 <HackEgo> 260) <fizzie> $ perl -e '/? <-- HERE/' Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/? <-- HERE <-- HERE/ at -e line 1.
02:52:26 <HackEgo> 93) <Warrigal> I seem to think of coaxial cables as being omnipotent somehow.
02:54:01 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `ieo'': not found
02:54:10 <elliott> monqy: im going to have to do it arent i :(
02:54:28 <monqy> i'm debating between 211 and 93
02:54:34 <monqy> not fond of either
02:54:58 <HackEgo> *poof* <Goosey> I can play crysis, but not minecraft?
02:54:58 <monqy> by popular opinion
02:55:02 <elliott> we got rid of most of the early-quote crappiness
02:55:20 <HackEgo> 255) <oerjan> <Gregor> oerjan: Tell us what (a(b{c}d)*2e)%2 expands to <-- ababcdbcdedbabcdbcdede, i think <Gregor> oerjan: What - the - fuck
02:55:36 <HackEgo> 350) <monqy> my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup
02:55:39 <HackEgo> 490) <Taneb> Well, I'm now experimenting with clients <fizzie> It doesn't sound like good PR to say that out loud.
02:55:39 <HackEgo> 760) <fungot> elliott: to be honest, it doesn't exist in a state of almost perpetual stalemate, and expands to a larger board and more exotic collection of what he refers to as a thermal hull, instead of some kind of clock pun. no, dammit, will this breakfast injure his shrill, bearded, scraggly old men in space. jade's radioactive, omnipotent, space-warping dog named...
02:55:39 <HackEgo> 33) <oklopol> i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that.
02:55:45 <shachaf> `run function foo() { $(bin/quote | awk '{print $1 $2}'); }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
02:55:50 <HackEgo> bash: 462)<elliott>: command not found \ bash: 654)<monqy>: command not found \ bash: 476)<itidus20>: command not found \ bash: 641)<elliott>: command not found \ bash: 142)<Gregor>: command not found \
02:56:08 <elliott> 760 is fungot, and so sacrosanct
02:56:09 <fungot> elliott: bt ftw? :p. ugh i need to do the design as well,
02:56:21 <elliott> 33 is only there for the self-reference and it's crap but <traditional>
02:56:21 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
02:56:25 <HackEgo> 730) <oklopol> 806) <ais523> 368) <GregorR> 91) <songhead95> 412) <elliott>
02:57:09 <monqy> but what is the quote
02:57:53 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
02:57:58 <HackEgo> 43) <Deewiant> I 106) <soupdragon> if 585) [from 2009] 474) <itidus20> It's 76) <Dylan> Warrigal
02:58:29 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "hi monqy"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
02:58:35 <HackEgo> 661) <ais523\unfoog> Vorpal: your hi monqy 63) <Oranjer> oohhh <Oranjer> hi monqy 609) <ais523> isn't a hi monqy 686) <shachaf> You should hi monqy 196) <tswett> That is hi monqy
02:58:35 <tswett> I assume that by "it's" you mean "you're" and by "i" you mean "say 'i'".
02:58:44 <shachaf> <shachaf> You should hi monqy
02:59:02 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "hi monqy"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
02:59:07 <HackEgo> 662) <Phantom_Hoover> Life expectancy hi monqy 583) <Taneb> Just goes hi monqy 194) <elliott> So it's hi monqy 344) <Phantom_Hoover> Scotland turns hi monqy 658) <zzo38> I am hi monqy
02:59:29 <shachaf> zzo38: No, *I* am hi monqy!
02:59:42 <Gregor> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3360153036711&l=6945039e9e I made myself a pin to commemorate this auspicious day.
03:00:17 <quintopia> Gregor: did you give it up for lent and then never stop
03:00:20 <shachaf> Our watch, sir, as you know, has comprehended two auspicious persons.
03:00:21 <elliott> Gregor: pls actually make that
03:00:30 <tswett> Gregor: hey, what's a version of Windows you hate?
03:00:39 <HackEgo> 618) <oerjan> i am sorry to disappoint you, but my musical taste is on the side abba, verdi, and celine dion. i know this may not be popular and that you would have preferred me to be a satanist.
03:00:40 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "for elliott"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
03:00:41 <HackEgo> 662) <Phantom_Hoover> Life expectancy now is a function of whether you go berserk or not.
03:00:52 <HackEgo> 646) <coppro> clearly darth needs something gray and big and proving the uncountability of the reals
03:00:53 <HackEgo> 529) <Phantom_Hoover> I didn't realise nickel apparently can't be shaped into a screw because of some fundamental feature of dwarven physics.
03:00:53 <HackEgo> 248) <olsner> actually, I think vorpal is the "retarded team member" to the left
03:00:53 <HackEgo> 642) <Phantom_Hoover> You know for elliott 822) <zzo38> A lot for elliott 666) <oerjan> elliott: it for elliott 817) <tswett> ais523: well, for elliott 151) <oklopol> pigeons are for elliott
03:01:09 <tswett> That is why God invented the pigeon.
03:01:15 <elliott> ok i laughed at pigeons are for elliott
03:01:27 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "the devil"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
03:01:31 <HackEgo> 238) bin canary karma lib maketext monqy paste quotes share wisdom quintopia sits the devil 120) <AnMaster> alise, marble the devil 741) <ais523> `delquote 419 the devil 679) <ais523> also, why the devil 75) <Warrigal> It's not the devil
03:01:32 <elliott> shachaf: can you stop we need to delete quotes!!!
03:01:35 <elliott> monqy: which should we delete
03:01:39 <Gregor> <tswett> Gregor: hey, what's a version of Windows you hate? // I only hate the versions that Microsoft was involved i.
03:01:45 <monqy> i cant see the quotes there's too much for elliott
03:02:02 <HackEgo> #!/bin/sh \ allquotes | if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ sed "$1q;d" \ else \ grep -P -i -- "$1" \ fi \ else shuf -n 1; fi
03:02:14 <HackEgo> #!/bin/sh \ allquotes | if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ sed "$1q;d" \ else
03:02:36 <shachaf> `run cat bin/quote | tail -n+5 | head -n5
03:02:39 <HackEgo> else \ grep -P -i -- "$1" \ fi \ else shuf -n 1; fi
03:02:46 <elliott> shachaf: stop you're making monqy's screen scroll!!!
03:02:59 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/grey tea
03:03:06 <shachaf> (I don't really pronounce it like that.)
03:03:49 <HackEgo> 238) * quintopia sits on gregor
03:03:51 <quintopia> that's totally how i pronounce "earl grey tea"
03:04:09 <tswett> quintopia: you pronounce it with a grave accent before it?
03:04:22 <HackEgo> 662) <Phantom_Hoover> Life expectancy now is a function of whether you go berserk or not.
03:04:36 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "makes no sense"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
03:04:36 <tswett> I think we should delete quote 440.
03:04:41 <HackEgo> 659) <zzo38> Can you makes no sense 807) <shachaf> elliott: Apparently makes no sense 75) <Warrigal> It's not makes no sense 735) <Phantom_Hoover> Incest, the makes no sense 694) <oerjan> shachaf: wait, makes no sense
03:04:42 <HackEgo> 440) <SgeoN1> No nasty sounds for a while now. Going to turn off and on and see if the numbers get worse.
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03:05:03 <tswett> We should also delete quote 288.
03:05:04 <elliott> this round is disqualified!!!!
03:05:12 <monqy> aaaa too much words
03:05:13 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "is disqualified!!!!"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
03:05:17 <elliott> tswett: stop! it'll get mixed into the quotes! you're all banned from quotes forever
03:05:26 <HackEgo> 328) <elliott> ais523: YOU WILL HAVE YOUR QUOTE SOON
03:05:29 <HackEgo> 91) <songhead95> think of all the starving kids in china who don't have rotting sea life to eat
03:05:32 <shachaf> monqy: mye game > youre game :'(
03:05:42 <quintopia> elliott: no more quoting or deleting. stop.
03:05:46 <HackEgo> 288) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: mutation is often considerably harder for both humans and compilers can analyze it much more difficult' part that induces bloody vomit... huh....intriguing
03:05:47 <HackEgo> 75) <Warrigal> It's not incest if you're third cousins!
03:05:48 <HackEgo> 571) <fizzie> Isn't "strip nomic" just another word for all dating, though?
03:05:50 <HackEgo> 553) <Phantom_Hoover> Intake flooded is disqualified!!!! 259) <fizzie> $ perl is disqualified!!!! 399) <Sgeo> I used is disqualified!!!! 10) <reddit user "othermatt"> is disqualified!!!! 181) <fizzie> I don't is disqualified!!!!
03:05:53 <HackEgo> 5) <Warrigal> GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them.
03:06:01 <tswett> 288 is pretty nice. We should keep it.
03:06:15 <quintopia> Gregor: does hackego have any bombs you can set off
03:06:17 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "is pretty good!!!!"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
03:06:22 <HackEgo> 104) <fax> okay I is pretty good!!!! 738) <oerjan> DeadlyFugu: the is pretty good!!!! 508) <monqy> the classic is pretty good!!!! 308) <lament> elliott: well is pretty good!!!! 23) IN AN ALTERNATE is pretty good!!!!
03:06:24 * shachaf needs to go in a couple of minutes.
03:06:47 <HackEgo> 777) <olsner> the allocation is done by the "Dynamic" in DRAM <olsner> before that we used SRAM where everything was preallocated in the factory <fizzie> olsner: So what's this SDRAM then? <olsner> fizzie: synchronized, it's for multithreading
03:06:57 <HackEgo> 773) <fizzie> Quinary computers replace the cache with a quiche.
03:07:00 <HackEgo> 23) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <oerjan> In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, ehird has taste"
03:07:01 <HackEgo> 429) <ais523> the thing about modern semiconductor design is, 0s are more powerful as 1s
03:07:44 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "should be turned into a HackEgo command!"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
03:07:49 <HackEgo> 543) <monqy> game where should be turned into a HackEgo command! 285) <Phantom_Hoover> elliott, incidentally, should be turned into a HackEgo command! 459) <NihilistDandy> The Russian's should be turned into a HackEgo command! 118) <fungot> AnMaster: to should be turned into a HackEgo command! 188) <oklopol> well i should be turned into a HackEgo command!
03:07:59 <shachaf> 285) <Phantom_Hoover> elliott, incidentally, should be turned into a HackEgo command!
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03:09:56 <monqy> what are you doing
03:12:10 <HackEgo> 254) <xplat> so you have legacy software in befunge that needs supported?
03:12:12 <HackEgo> 337) <Cheery> [...] OOPS.. my cockfile got destroyed
03:12:16 <HackEgo> 826) <fungot> itidus21: hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, h
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03:12:25 <HackEgo> 444) <fizzie> The zipWith Camel, a famous World War 1 era airplane.
03:12:43 <quintopia> elliott: do you really need to keep spamming the channel with quotes :/
03:12:54 <kmc> ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────┐
03:12:57 <monqy> "at least it's better than shachaf's game"
03:12:57 <kmc> │ EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH: │
03:13:12 <kmc> │ shachaf │
03:13:12 <kmc> └──────────────────────────────────────────────┘
03:13:12 <elliott> quintopia: it's our national op-endorsed past-time!
03:13:13 <elliott> but it stops if anyone talks about/wants to talk about esolangs
03:13:28 <monqy> complaining about `quote is close enough to talking about esolangs
03:14:24 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "is hard. let's go shopping!"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
03:14:27 <HackEgo> bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
03:14:43 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "is hard. let'\''s go shopping!"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
03:14:48 <HackEgo> 461) <elliott> God, I is hard. let's go shopping! 141) <alise> So basically is hard. let's go shopping! 553) <Phantom_Hoover> Intake flooded is hard. let's go shopping! 479) <monqy> cigaretes and is hard. let's go shopping! 721) <Phantom_Hoover> Just because is hard. let's go shopping!
03:15:36 <shachaf> `run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " " <----- that'\''s a terrible quote :'\''("}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo)
03:15:40 <HackEgo> 479) <monqy> cigaretes and <----- that's a terrible quote :'( 789) <ais523> bleh, why <----- that's a terrible quote :'( 660) <Ngevd> I'm neither <----- that's a terrible quote :'( 327) <oklofok> destroying a <----- that's a terrible quote :'( 818) <olsner> is tswett <----- that's a terrible quote :'(
03:16:25 <HackEgo> 818) <olsner> is tswett Warrigal?
03:16:34 <HackEgo> *poof* <olsner> is tswett Warrigal?
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03:22:57 <zzo38> Do you know how to work the Netplay on TGB-Dual without resulting in synchronization errors?
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03:56:12 <kmc> shachaf: apparently in some legacy encodings, a character is double-width iff it takes two bytes
03:59:53 <zzo38> kmc: I think that does make some sense
04:01:28 <elliott> That would explain the name.
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05:33:00 <zzo38> Can you prove that you have never been to the moon?
05:33:27 <lambdabot> elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
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05:38:30 <zzo38> What is the farthest object you can examine by telescope?
05:43:32 <Patashu> depends how big the telescope is
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05:53:52 <shachaf> elliott: Want an EXCITING MATHEMATICAL PUZZLE?
05:54:07 <zzo38> I read an article in 2600 once where someone combined all the lenses for the telescope to watch the moon extremely closely
05:55:01 <shachaf> monqy: How many "8"s can you fit on a plane?
05:55:48 <monqy> 8s are too intangible to fit on a plane
05:56:36 <shachaf> monqy: Non-overlapping 8 shapes, where an 8 shape is two tangent circles.
05:57:40 <shachaf> Clearly you can fit ℵ_1 non-overlapping circles on a plane.
05:57:50 <shachaf> It's not so clear about 8s.
05:57:57 <monqy> that's not a number
06:00:03 <Sgeo> shachaf, is one of the circles allowed to have radius 0?
06:00:23 <monqy> if it has radius 0 it's not a circle is it
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06:56:54 <oklopol> i don't think i've ever had to pee this bad
06:57:18 <monqy> have you tried peeing
07:15:40 <zzo38> Let's see whether the government is putting any satellites there without everyone's knowledge of their existence and function and so on
07:22:13 <ion> monqy: YOU JUST CHANGED EVERYTHING. I AM IN TEARS OF JOY. THANK YOU.
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07:33:05 <itidus20> During the ceremony of joy, monqy was nowhere to be seen.
07:36:16 <zzo38> Did you sometimes eat your own blood?
07:40:28 <DHeadshot> Probably a bad time to return from AFK, if the last message is reflective of the conversation matter in general...
07:43:21 <ion> It is indeed.
07:44:27 <zzo38> Did you ever find the Higgs boson inside your computer?
07:46:40 <itidus20> http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/unplugged/warcraft-starcraft-invade-classic-board-games-194405691.html
07:48:11 <zzo38> Tomorrow I will be at Victoria. I like to go to Japanese restaurant.
07:49:12 <itidus20> fwiw i don't play wow myself and i don't think many here do to be honest
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08:43:08 <itidus20> this dithered image messes with my eyes http://www.artfulgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/racover0001.png
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09:12:30 <pikhq> Hmm. Ordered dither.
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09:34:04 <impomatic> Did anyone ever play "Robot Battle" or "Mech Zone: Robot Battle II" on the Mac? I can't find much info about them...
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10:17:41 <itidus20> i just had a funny(fsvo funny) idea for a movie: a 2 hour film where you watch a slot machine. *imagine* a cinema full of people watching a slot machine on the big screen
10:20:28 <impomatic> Maybe with David Attenborough at a narrator. The behaviour of the slot machine in it's native habitat.
10:21:05 <itidus20> ooh. and an introduction by Morgan Freeman
10:22:45 <itidus20> the general idea would be that people would find the experience so excruciating and monotonous they would walk out after a few minutes
10:23:51 <itidus20> they would almost be suffocating from their need to press the buttons
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10:57:36 <Taneb> Had a maths exam this morning
10:57:40 <Taneb> It was surprisingly hard
10:58:38 <Taneb> The Core 2 module of OCR's A-level Maths qualification
11:00:26 <Taneb> It has trigonometry and logs
11:00:50 <Taneb> And binomial expansion, and arithmetic and geometric sequences
11:02:06 <impomatic> I hate intergration / differentiation :-(
11:02:38 <Taneb> Yeah, I can never remember whether you divide or multiply
11:02:44 <Taneb> Almost ended up doing both :/
11:04:57 <impomatic> I hate it because we got taught how to do it, but not why it works...
11:23:31 <Taneb> Okay, BSD3 license.
11:23:38 <Taneb> What if I don't have an organization!?
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12:27:30 <Taneb> What is this madness
12:31:22 <nortti> Taneb: täällä puhutaan suomea nykyään
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12:39:57 <ion> I wonder what the etymology of “joo” is?
12:41:25 <nortti> se liittyi jotenkin suomen eduskunnan äänestysjuttuun (tosin siinä taisi lukea jaa-9
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12:43:00 <ion> It originating from the Swedish “ja” is plausible, but what made the vowel change to “o”?
12:45:17 <nortti> drunken finnish? they almost always say o in place of a (at least what I have heard)
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13:26:25 <itidus21> why is it that irc channels are not endlessly swarmed by advertising bots?
13:27:04 <itidus21> oh.. is it the voice thing and stuff like that?
13:39:44 <oklopol> because ad bots are annoying and people do not do evil.
13:42:19 <itidus21> but in some non-irc chatrooms, where there is no moderators, there is a constant endless stream of ad bots
13:42:29 <itidus21> and there is even a captcha in the way
13:43:36 <itidus21> it just amazes me that it isn't a problem
13:46:23 <Phantom_Hoover> itidus21, because there's like no point in adbotting on IRC?
13:46:51 <Phantom_Hoover> If you spam websites you can get favourable results on search engines.
13:47:51 <itidus21> i think i see.. the other chatroom is simply a weak target for a small few bot operators
13:53:59 <Sgeo> Phantom_Hoover, so why do they spam MediaWikis?
13:54:11 <Sgeo> I thought MediaWikis these days have no...something
13:55:26 <itidus21> maybe a mediawiki is also a weak target
13:58:06 <Phantom_Hoover> I'm not sure, but you're far more likely to get links followed from a wiki than an IRC channel.
13:59:43 <itidus21> well i think ads in this sense would be just a general form of attack
14:00:41 <itidus21> and irc is good at staving off attack
14:02:05 <ion> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113800/Metalworkers-cooked-death-inside-giant-Austrian-oven-door-closed-800C-furnace-accidentally-switched-on.html
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16:21:39 <elliott> how many messages do i have
16:21:39 <lambdabot> elliott: You have 27 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
16:21:59 <elliott> 17:21 <lambdabot> monqy asked 10h 47m 32s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow
16:22:00 <elliott> 17:21 <lambdabot> monqy asked 10h 47m 29s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow
16:22:01 <elliott> 17:21 <lambdabot> monqy asked 10h 47m 29s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow
16:22:03 <elliott> 17:21 <lambdabot> monqy asked 10h 47m 28s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow
16:22:05 <elliott> 17:21 <lambdabot> monqy asked 10h 47m 27s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow
16:22:12 <elliott> 17:22 <lambdabot> Plugin `tell' failed with: thread killed
16:24:40 <elliott> 12:39:57: <ion> I wonder what the etymology of “joo” is?
16:25:12 <elliott> 13:26:25: <itidus21> why is it that irc channels are not endlessly swarmed by advertising bots?
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16:25:37 <elliott> although that shitty racist forum pops up in #haskell every now and then
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16:29:44 <elliott> well there's more flooding/trolling bots than ads i would say
16:29:50 <elliott> because nobody is going to click an ad
16:30:05 <elliott> go hang out on efnet if you want some anarchy
16:30:13 <ion> elliott: Why are you on this channel if you don’t know Finnish? :-(
16:30:32 <ion> http://translate.google.fi/#fi|en|joo
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16:30:37 <elliott> ion: trolling so that you enter a state in which u mad, at which point i will achieve enlightenment
16:31:04 <elliott> something something problem? something something y u no something over 9000 something
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16:32:43 <itidus21> everything went better than expected.
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16:42:52 <Taneb> elliott, I made some of the suggestions you made to Data.FamilyTree
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16:43:13 <Taneb> I decided to not change it to Lens FamilyTree (Maybe whatevs)
16:43:37 <Taneb> Because of the ID's being reallocated
16:44:35 <elliott> I'm not sure what the reallocation would affect.
16:44:44 <elliott> (But I think you shouldn't reallocate IDs.)
16:45:02 <elliott> (If you don't, then ID has a stronger semantic connection to the given whatevs.)
16:45:35 <elliott> (Another thing you can do with ID is give it a type parameter, so that it looks like "ID Foo -> Lens FamilyTree (Maybe Foo)", and you can't mix up IDs for different things.)
16:46:08 <Taneb> (I reallocate ID's for reasons of space, which helps when you're someone like me and make a lot of mistakes)
16:47:07 <elliott> Where does space come into it?
16:47:25 <Taneb> Well, there's at least 2^28 possible people, etc
16:47:57 <elliott> You shouldn't generally use Int unless you *know* it's limited.
16:48:19 <Taneb> If IntegerMap exists, I'll be happy to use it
16:48:24 <elliott> Well, HashMap Integer is probably just as good. But it's your program :P
16:48:32 <elliott> I know HashMap Int is about as fast (slightly faster?) than IntMap.
16:49:26 <elliott> You don't really have to do any of my suggestions, it's just that obviously how *I* would have done it is the objectively correct method.
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16:52:43 <kmc> elliott understands IRC
16:53:04 <kmc> also, if someone asks how to do X, and you can't think of a use for X within about three seconds, it proves the person is an idiot
16:56:14 <shachaf> kmc: I think the other case (someone asks how to do X and it turns out that they're wrong) is much more common, so the bias isn't all that unreasonable.
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16:57:23 <shachaf> Also I think the attitude isn't so much "you're an idiot" as "the fact that I'm helping you on IRC for free doesn't mean my time is worthless; please don't make it difficult and unpleasant to do so".
17:01:29 <kmc> well XY problems really happen, yes
17:01:42 <kmc> but people are also very quick to jump to that conclusion
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17:02:29 <elliott> About half of all questions asked in #haskell are an XY problem.
17:04:19 <kmc> if you're worried about other people wasting your time, it's probably better to stay quiet than to berate them for having an XY problem
17:04:32 <lambdabot> ais523: You have 6 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
17:04:37 <elliott> kmc: What if I'm worried about helping them?
17:04:55 <kmc> then wait for them to say more
17:05:04 <elliott> They never do, because they don't think they have an XY problem.
17:05:09 <elliott> They think they need to get Int out of IO Int.
17:05:14 <kmc> or ask "why do you want to do X" as opposed to "you shouldn't do X because I can't think of a reason for it"
17:05:25 <elliott> It's not really berating to ask for what they're really trying to do, and to tell them that they don't want to do what they think they do.
17:05:36 <elliott> (Except in very rare circumstances.)
17:05:49 <elliott> (But it's usually easy to tell whether such a circumstance could possibly apply to somebody based on how knowledgable they sound.)
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17:10:30 <shachaf> > zipWith3 if' [True, False, True, True, False] (repeat '0') (repeat '1') -- fun!
17:10:52 <shachaf> I've never actually used zipWith3 before. It's always been a theoretical thing.
17:10:57 <elliott> map (bool '0' '1') is shorter. :p
17:11:53 <elliott> @let bool False _ b = b; bool True a _ = a
17:12:12 <zzo38> I think that is wrong
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17:12:28 <elliott> Erm, map (bool '1' '0'), I mean.
17:12:30 <zzo38> bool x _ False = x; bool _ x True = x;
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17:12:42 <elliott> Except flip the first two arguments.
17:12:54 <elliott> @let bool a b p = if p then a else b
17:13:02 <shachaf> > map (if' '0' '1') [True, false, True, True, False]
17:13:03 <lambdabot> Not in scope: `if''Not in scope: `false'
17:13:07 <elliott> > map (bool '0' '1') [False, False, True, True, False]
17:13:13 <elliott> shachaf: Wrong argument order.
17:14:08 <shachaf> @let if' n x y = if isPrime n then x else y
17:14:13 <elliott> Hmm, someone claiming that an edwardk package is too slow for their purposes.
17:15:25 <kmc> better `seq` unsafeDo# (some# unsafeOptimization#)
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17:17:09 * elliott considers joining #haskell-blah to tease edwardk about it.
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17:19:19 <shachaf> Are they calling it "an edwardk package"?
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17:22:53 <elliott> Well, I knew it was before they even named it.
17:23:26 <ion> Based on what? It had no documentation?
17:24:24 <elliott> I just know these things, man.
17:24:34 <elliott> Also because I don't know of any other automatic differentiation packages for Haskell.
17:25:15 <elliott> "This month saw quite a lot of activity on StackOverflow, largely from user Clinton trying to puzzle through STM and other concurrency issues."
17:25:29 <elliott> If by "puzzle through" you mean "assert ridiculous theories about and ignore everyone who explains why they're wrong", sure.
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17:55:44 <zzo38> Do you like the prelude-generalize-0.3.1?
17:57:31 <Taneb> I was just thinking of making something like that!
17:58:45 <zzo38> Something like...?
17:58:52 <Taneb> prelude-generalize
17:59:12 <zzo38> Well, now there already is.
17:59:35 <zzo38> Tell me if you have a comment about it, thing to add and so on
18:00:15 <Taneb> Is AaronBlack you?
18:00:44 <oerjan> "By using terahertz radiation, researchers from the Tokyo Institute of Technology (Suzukakedai campus pictured) set a new record for wireless data transmission speed."
18:01:25 <oerjan> the rumors of mutated researchers are completely unfounded.
18:04:24 <zzo38> Taneb: Yes that is my name.
18:05:36 <Taneb> It looks pretty good!
18:07:43 <zzo38> Lists and LogicT are MonadLogic, but so is StateT s [] and so on, so the generalized versions of tail and so on can be used with that too.
18:09:37 <Taneb> It could do with a bit more documentation, I think. But that's just me
18:09:58 <zzo38> You may be correct about that.
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18:19:13 <Taneb> zzo38, have you seen family-tree ?
18:19:46 <zzo38> Taneb: OK I am looking now
18:20:13 <oklopol> how much boob would a noob loop poop if a noop loop could whoopadoop?
18:20:55 <Taneb> a noob loop wouldn't poop any boob as the ability to whoopadoop does not correlate in any way with the ability to boob.
18:21:00 <zzo38> I do not understand the question.
18:22:37 <zzo38> I don't know why you would need to use (LogicT Identity) for anything (other than its existence), since it is like [], but LogicT can be used as a kind of list monad transformer with the monad being transformed going between the list elements
18:23:01 <Taneb> zzo38, also, suggestion: (?) :: Bool -> x -> x -> x (like Bool)
18:24:04 <zzo38> Taneb: No, it is infix operation
18:24:41 <Taneb> response ? "yes" $ "no"
18:25:40 <zzo38> The way I have it you can do response ? ("no", "yes") but also with things other than booleans; see the class QuestionMarkOp
18:25:57 <Taneb> Ah, didn't see that
18:27:38 <zzo38> There appears to be no way to actually call idQMO, although it is mathematically correct as far as I can tell
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19:34:01 <elliott> http://nekogames.jp/g.html?gid=PRM
19:37:17 <Gregor> Well, who needs Diablo III?
19:37:35 <elliott> i don't even understand what i'm doing but i can't stop playing!!!
19:39:26 <Gregor> The game is so much better once you remove those pesky plot, strategy and graphics aspects.
19:39:56 <elliott> apparently you need to fill that blue bar up to unlock things... taht seems difficult
19:45:01 <elliott> I shouldn't have unlcoked that tough guy.
19:45:22 <Gregor> No, you need the key to unlock things ...
19:45:32 <elliott> Oh. So that was the only thing I could have unlocked?
19:45:42 <elliott> Should have gone for 80/80 or something.
19:46:08 <Gregor> How the heck did you get to the point that you could even kill this 32/32 wuss >_>
19:46:31 <elliott> Gregor: When you finished a 100% thing, click it a bunch and you get money.
19:46:39 <elliott> Then click the sword / armour things with prices on them.
19:46:50 <elliott> You can also distribute your stats with the [+] button at the top.
19:46:59 <elliott> After that it's just a matter of pressing it a bunch.
19:47:17 <elliott> Mind you, I can't kill this 58/58 thing :(
19:47:31 <Gregor> Oh, I only upped my sword and armor once.
19:47:33 <Gregor> I guess I just need more.
19:49:07 <elliott> I like how money is non-scarce.
19:49:10 <pikhq_> Yowza. Facebook IPO'd today. Opening at $38, presently trading at $38.01.
19:49:39 <kmc> pikhq_: and Zynga's down 15.7%
19:51:30 <elliott> I think 36 is easier than 32, maybe.
19:51:58 * elliott is giving himself carpal tunnel to raise $860 for more hurty-things power.
19:52:10 <ion> elliott: Nice game.
19:52:14 <elliott> The objective of the game is to complete it before your hands become too mangled to play.
19:52:19 <ion> elliott: name.
19:52:36 <Gregor> There are at least three 36en.
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19:53:02 <elliott> I defeated the rightmost 36! \o/
19:53:26 <elliott> Still not quite good enough for 108.
19:55:24 <Gregor> You mean the locked 36?
19:55:35 <elliott> The tall one at the right that's locked.
19:56:00 <elliott> Oooh, so close to defeating 108.
19:58:06 <elliott> Gregor: What letters have you got
19:59:29 <Gregor> Oooh, I have a gold key.
19:59:55 <ais523> beautiful: tdwtf discussion about why most cronds don't have a field for year, zzo38 turns up and recommends sdate as a workaround
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20:10:33 <elliott> Gregor: Whoa, 390 hits hard.
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20:11:22 <Gregor> Same way I stopped using the tongue-face smiley.
20:15:25 <elliott> Gregor: But there's slot machines!
20:16:31 <Taneb> There's also slot machines in Pokmon Emerald
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20:21:16 <elliott> Taneb: Play http://nekogames.jp/g.html?gid=PRM!
20:28:29 <elliott> Gregor: I now have $15630 :D
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20:34:12 <quintopia> shit that's more money than i have
20:34:26 <Gregor> quintopia: That's Zimbabwe dollars.
20:34:53 <quintopia> Gregor: then how come it has a $ and not a ZWD
20:35:04 <elliott> $ is the dollar sign, dude.
20:35:29 <quintopia> yes, and when you see it, you assume USD, and if that's not possible then CAD and then AUD respectively
20:35:38 <quintopia> you never assume a currency that no longer exists
20:37:29 <elliott> Gregor: Most of the late-game consists of repeatedly hitting the slot machine until it turns up 777.
20:37:35 <elliott> Then you get a lot of cash.
20:37:59 <elliott> (It spits out a bunch of $777s.)
20:38:34 <Gregor> elliott: You THINK it's the late game. But when you finally kill the big monster at the bottom, it'll just advance you to level 2.
20:38:45 <elliott> I already spoiled myself as to what comes next :P
20:38:51 <elliott> It's a big boss with 999 HP.
20:38:58 <elliott> Then that reveals a boss with 9999 HP.
20:41:04 <elliott> GOD the combo bar is impossible to fill up.
20:41:49 <elliott> Well, I defeated that boss.
20:43:13 <elliott> Parameters cleared in 73:35:74 yaaaaay
20:44:38 <elliott> Not quite tough enough to defeat the big bad yet :(
20:47:43 <elliott> Gregor: http://ompldr.org/vZHN2eQ
20:48:05 <elliott> I'm not done yet, though. Oh no.
20:48:15 <elliott> I must discover the remainin two ?s, and exhaust the remaining power-up things.
20:49:06 <elliott> ais523: remind me never to complain about games again
20:49:31 <elliott> I clearly have no taste in them
20:50:02 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: http://nekogames.jp/g.html?gid=PRM
20:50:13 <ais523> wow, is it really possible to talk on IRC over dbus?
20:50:18 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: Click "English". Then click plya.
20:50:22 <ais523> what a pointless thing to be able to do
20:50:24 <elliott> Finding out the rules is part of the game!
20:50:25 <ais523> (I said that line over dbus)
20:50:46 <ais523> KDE seem to have a policy of exposing commands in their applications over dbus by default
20:50:57 <Gregor> Phantom_Hoover: It's Diablo III for reductionists.
20:51:07 <elliott> ais523: inherited from the kcop stuff, I think
20:51:31 <ais523> so why doesn't KDE have a standard way of requesting the URL of the focused tab / all open tabs?
20:53:10 <ais523> at this rate I'm going to have to come up with an API myself and patch it into EVERY LINUX PROGRAM IN EXISTENCE
20:54:44 * impomatic is trying Scalatron http://scalatron.github.com (Scala robot programming game)
21:04:26 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: How are you doing???
21:04:46 <Phantom_Hoover> I've run out of keys and I'm using up all my life too fast to kill anything.
21:05:27 <Taneb> I've ran out of keys and things to kill
21:05:32 <elliott> Erm, why aren't you doing the missions?
21:05:40 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: Have you been upping your stats?
21:05:45 <elliott> That's what the [+] buttons do.
21:06:02 <elliott> Taneb: Yours too, perhaps.
21:06:19 <elliott> You can get money by clicking completed missions, btw.
21:06:29 <elliott> I think it'd be hard to get the game into a completely unwinnable state.
21:08:20 <elliott> Well, that's why I asked for a screenshot :P
21:09:37 <elliott> Taneb: The game isn't randomised, it's the same for everyone ;)
21:09:38 <Phantom_Hoover> It's impossible to get the game to an unwinnable state.
21:09:50 <elliott> I dunno, is the key-for-money thing always available?
21:09:58 <elliott> I thought it was locked by a key or such.
21:10:50 <Taneb> I don't remember unlocking it
21:11:33 <Taneb> (what do the letters at the top mean?)
21:11:44 <Phantom_Hoover> Well OK, it might be possible to do it by overextending hugely during the early game.
21:11:47 <elliott> I don't think they do anything.
21:11:57 <elliott> Except make you feel good about collecting them.
21:14:55 <Phantom_Hoover> How are you meant to get the blocks with the question marks in them?
21:15:25 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: They unlock; I'm not sure what unlocks them, but as you level up and do stuff they appear; they're generally one-time stat boost things you can click.
21:15:36 <elliott> I haven't unlocked the last few, though (got tired of hitting the slot machine over and over; will go back to it later).
21:16:20 <elliott> Taneb: Phantom_Hoover: One of you should try filling up the combo meter, since I'm terrible at it. :p
21:16:42 <elliott> The slot machine is one of the ?s that gets unlocked.
21:16:50 <elliott> The combo meter is the meter below the ACT/DEF line.
21:16:53 <elliott> Fills the width of the screen.
21:17:10 <elliott> You need to pump up RCV a ton, then use the ACT. ++ block a bunch to raise your ACT.
21:17:23 <elliott> Then you click a completed mission, get some of the gold (doesn't matter how much), and click it again before it expires.
21:17:44 <elliott> I have 100 ACT and 222 RCV and even I'm not good enough to fill it.
21:18:57 <elliott> But it's probably easier if you have a mouse, rather than a touchpad.
21:19:11 <Phantom_Hoover> Ohhh, you mean the incredibly thin black bar that fills with dark blue?
21:19:29 <elliott> Heh, my game clock has rolled over to 99:99:99.
21:20:33 <elliott> Awwww, I was so close to filling the combo bar.
21:22:09 <elliott> None of them are behind gold keys, so.
21:23:00 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: Oh, and completing missions too, I think.
21:23:58 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: Argh, apparently at least one of the ?s is unlocked by filling the combo meter..
21:24:30 <elliott> Oh, the good news is that you don't have to worry about collecting gold when doing it, because some of it hits your cursor by chance...
21:25:48 <elliott> But I filled the combo bar.
21:26:06 <elliott> It gives you $200 * how many levels you are.
21:26:16 <elliott> That's not all that much by my standards. :(
21:26:34 <elliott> But at least I only need one more click to max out the $3558 armour power-up...
21:26:44 <elliott> An there's only one ? left.
21:28:28 <elliott> Filling the combo bar again does nothing. :(
21:29:10 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: By the way, if you find out what getting *** on the slot machine does, let me know.
21:29:48 <elliott> A bunch of $800s. Not bad!
21:30:04 <elliott> One click on the final power-up box unlocked the final ?.
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21:32:58 <elliott> Not as much as 777, I think (because that gives you more of them).
21:34:51 <elliott> Only 6 power-ups to go before I can rest my weary mind...
21:36:41 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: OK, why did nobody warn humanity about things like this?
21:37:21 <elliott> I mean, Orwell was all "hey guys don't become a totalitarian surveillance state" but did he say one bit about hollow, addicting RPGs???
21:41:17 <elliott> Right as I go to upload the image of me having won, my browser crashes.
21:41:31 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: The 999 HP one, or the 9999 HP one?
21:41:45 <elliott> I guess the 999 HP one isn't exactly final.
21:42:04 <elliott> Oh, yeah, there's a bit more than that.
21:42:12 <elliott> Screenshot you're game and I'll tell you what's left to do.
21:42:15 <elliott> (It's not much more than that, though.)
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21:42:57 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: That's not the end.
21:43:09 <Taneb> I really suck at this, it seems
21:43:16 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: That'll be the combo one, or the all-powerups one.
21:43:23 <elliott> But that isn't what you need to do to unlock the final boss.
21:43:45 <elliott> Once you kill the 9999 boss, you just have to buy every power-up (that means at least once from each, not the whole 9 from each) to unlock the final ?.
21:44:00 <elliott> Or if you already have, then it's the combo one; get your ACT and RCV up and just keep clicking one of the finished missions.
21:44:24 <elliott> (I used the 100% one that's one left from the $860 x9 weapon power-up.)
21:44:28 <elliott> Anyway, http://ompldr.org/vZHN3cA.
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21:50:44 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: Can I see a screenshot? Or at least all your current stats?
21:50:53 <elliott> For me, I didn't really have to up anything; I just changed my tactic.
21:51:06 <elliott> You regain health faster than the boss, so just keep an eye on your life meter, and only hit when it's >= a certain value.
21:51:19 <elliott> So hit when you're >= 60 health, wait until it regains, hit again, and so on.
21:51:34 <elliott> But if you can afford them, just buy a bunch of the power-ups.
21:51:48 <elliott> 150 life is more than I had when defeating the boss.
21:51:56 <elliott> You might want to up defences.
21:52:06 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: Have you used the ATK. x2 box yet?
21:52:13 <elliott> I guess so, since it's higher than all your other stats.
21:52:20 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: Oh yeah, and the $200 Add Parm. box is useful.
21:52:29 <elliott> If you have a lot of money, just spam it and you get one stat point per $200.
21:54:00 <elliott> That counts as winning, according to the start screen. But I'm weird, so I had to buy all 9 of every power-up to be happy.
21:54:57 <elliott> What *is* last? They all have different criteria. I keep asking for a screenshot for a reason.
21:56:57 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: At least tell me where it is?
21:57:53 <elliott> That's the combo one. Just click a completed mission fast for ages until the combo bar fills up.
21:58:06 <elliott> I used the wide one to the left of $860 x9 weapon in the top-left.
21:58:10 <elliott> Don't worry about picking up the gold.
22:04:22 <elliott> @ask monqy 23:04 <Sojiko> Yeah, Meph is a workhorse spell, you spam it at almost everything.
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22:44:06 <ais523> wow, I just saw a TV advert for IE9
22:44:16 * ais523 wonders why people go around advertising browsers
22:50:43 <nortti> because some people use different browser than IE and microsoft doesn't like that
22:52:34 <nortti> I finnished my CPU design few minutes ago. It is RISC style stack machine with conditional execution bit.
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22:58:35 <lambdabot> monqy: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
22:58:53 <monqy> what a message :'(
23:03:10 <elliott> 17:22 <lambdabot> monqy asked 10h 46m 57s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow
23:03:10 <elliott> 17:22 <lambdabot> monqy asked 10h 46m 56s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow
23:03:10 <elliott> 17:22 <lambdabot> monqy asked 10h 46m 56s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow
23:03:12 <elliott> 17:22 <lambdabot> monqy asked 10h 46m 54s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow
23:03:14 <elliott> 17:22 <lambdabot> Plugin `tell' failed with: thread killed
23:03:16 <elliott> i didn't get all of your messages
23:03:24 <elliott> (there were more before that though)
23:03:50 <monqy> you missed all of the exciting variations
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23:03:54 <monqy> things that weren't that
23:04:01 <monqy> there was so much message excitement
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23:12:26 <nortti_> who was it here who was going to build his/her own computer architecture?
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