< 1337990426 731160 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337990584 402331 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337992001 730098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337992059 808173 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337992072 939903 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337992317 401386 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337992814 720605 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337993216 745549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337993982 5067 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337993982 203693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337995372 279536 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337995389 959978 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337997688 137712 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337999360 378912 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1338000968 588004 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338002258 539834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338002284 717610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pointers may be more useful than lambda calculus for some things; for other things, lambda calculus may be more useful. Isn't it? < 1338002351 100 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no pointers are Awesome™ and lambda calculus gives you bad breath < 1338002497 620967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever seen the Kaiji anime/manga? < 1338002788 648828 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1338003226 755718 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many actual programs use lambda calculus? < 1338003350 281790 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1338003383 184019 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338003729 703848 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338004540 6293 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338004552 715274 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338004572 493729 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net NICK :monqy < 1338004905 622020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free (CoYoneda f) is always a monad regardless of f, and f can be a GADT of actions, and you can make the monad of the actions to perform, which can also allow the actions to be manipulated. The f could also be a class wrapper: data X :: * -> * where { X :: XC x y => x -> X y; }; class Typeable x => XC x y | x -> y where { ... }; < 1338005872 854738 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your preferred natural language doesn't use the Latin alphabet, what keyboard layout do you use when coding? US QWERTY? < 1338005985 103774 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338006911 24031 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338006991 710063 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-151-77.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338007169 995441 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-175.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338011516 875532 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338012105 611639 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hay! < 1338012419 468539 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338012497 764359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK < 1338012633 317099 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338012656 523672 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338012667 263514 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1338013941 24372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you watch Kaiji? < 1338013950 118918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you watch Kaiji or Akagi? < 1338014014 356734 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1338014015 629169 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you? < 1338014170 251736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I watch Kaiji and I read the Akagi manga < 1338014186 897085 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you watch Akagi and read the Kaiji manga? < 1338014187 444220 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 9 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338014220 114892 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky monqy < 1338014222 35046 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lonqy < 1338014300 552549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaiji and Akagi are both very excellent manga written by Fukumoto, although his drawing is bad (he admits this). < 1338014314 208005 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you read it in Japanese or in Canadian? < 1338014365 191192 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-151-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame there's not a zzo translation. < 1338014999 126431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are in Japanese. < 1338015029 276530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I watch the Kaiji anime with English subtitles < 1338015176 748887 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1338016385 91191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though Set cannot be made instance of Monad, a type can be made for the Kleisli category of Set and make the Category instance for that. < 1338016554 843655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the variant campaign rules for Dungeons&Dragons game and Icosahedral RPG, that I have made? < 1338020493 854797 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1338020501 877126 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338021119 439019 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338021131 134604 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338021568 632692 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338023243 604876 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338024076 235605 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A584.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338024223 456457 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1338025815 496512 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338025835 646338 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. got forth interpeter in my ircbot < 1338025854 981142 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go forth and interpret! < 1338026085 888302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: (x-a)(x-b)(x-c)...=? < 1338026514 676684 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338026981 392692 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1338026981 586666 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1338026994 882501 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1338026995 215740 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1338027001 956057 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help < 1338027972 503718 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338027977 926926 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help < 1338027978 121044 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo, #welcome, #cat, #ls, #rm, #writefile, #cc, #exec, #msg, #readmsg, #forth, #loadforth < 1338028009 927768 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth words < 1338028010 161167 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET RESET + DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338028015 476949 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth forget forget < 1338028015 671226 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:word 'FORGET' cannot be forgotten < 1338028020 524539 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth forget + < 1338028022 831707 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth words < 1338028023 25793 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET RESET DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338028027 366878 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth reset < 1338028032 778422 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth words < 1338028032 972869 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET RESET DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338028040 929966 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth RESET < 1338028061 742913 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#quit < 1338028061 936980 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1338028399 401399 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%help < 1338028893 204265 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338028905 574444 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :% words < 1338028905 768846 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET + DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338029015 218424 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338029140 99724 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338029195 342613 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi TOPIC #esoteric :It is the 90s and there is time for the requirements of supervision and control of transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, also an Esolang event @ Hell/Finland on 3.10.2011: https://wiki.helsinki.fi/display/lambda/esoteeriset+ohjelmointikielet | I think pointers are considerably more useful than lambda calculus | 12345678 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1338030908 165615 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A584.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338031219 957249 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-192.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338031481 884842 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#cat test.forth < 1338031482 257418 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: sq dup * ; 6 sq . < 1338031515 536445 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#loadforth test.forth < 1338031515 999578 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :36 < 1338031525 294349 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#rm test.forth < 1338035146 431596 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338038258 161865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1338038327 513741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rawirc QUIT :x < 1338038328 173864 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338038349 419019 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: new command char is # < 1338038354 904446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#rawirc QUIT :x < 1338038357 402189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1338038362 605330 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell ls < 1338038363 131172 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfi.py \ botcmd.py \ botcmd.pyc \ ircbot.py \ msgs.txt \ replacecmd.sh \ sforth.py \ sforth.pyc \ tmpdata \ userdata \ < 1338038375 331245 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell cat /etc/passwd < 1338038385 66029 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell rm replacecmd.sh < 1338038392 794791 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell ls < 1338038392 989151 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfi.py \ botcmd.py \ botcmd.pyc \ ircbot.py \ msgs.txt \ sforth.py \ sforth.pyc \ tmpdata \ userdata \ < 1338038393 853818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:10:09: Ii never saw anyone other there than Sgeo < 1338038398 203964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i joined it first. < 1338038400 274007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my channel. < 1338038410 807931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell for i in a b c; echo $i; done < 1338038416 924093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your shell sucks < 1338038417 285012 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I declared it, that makes it MY channel ;) < 1338038431 252243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was considering registering it < 1338038444 383418 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: when did you join it? < 1338038450 138583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:33:46: how many actual programs use lambda calculus? < 1338038450 332789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:35:50: 3 < 1338038452 282617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 2 now < 1338038456 544486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: right after it was added to the topic < 1338038504 871635 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I joined it 17th May 16:57:15 and there was no one there. < 1338038531 756118 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. yes there was. I didn't notice you < 1338038629 660991 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a long time Sgeo was there but after some time I was left as the only one there < 1338038878 875121 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my shell doesn't suck. It is undocumented feauture of my bot and it requires that you are in oonbotti's .botops file < 1338038891 656522 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help < 1338038891 851043 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo, #welcome, #cat, #ls, #rm, #writefile, #cc, #exec, #msg, #readmsg, #forth, #loadforth < 1338038922 988897 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also, #forth has alias % < 1338038935 841088 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth 4 2 < 1338038944 897150 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :% swap 10 * + . < 1338038945 91543 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1338038948 827894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! < 1338038952 258899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blahbot reserves % < 1338038964 980636 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :blahbot? < 1338038973 676691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338038975 128681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Jumping_to_-1_is_exciting < 1338038979 88236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest in peace < 1338038997 692773 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338039013 403743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, someone called Bfucker has created two brainfuck derivatives in two days < 1338039015 204419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338039069 171934 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it seems blahbot also reserves ! < 1338039107 321033 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is % just a prefix and not jumping to -1 is exciting command < 1338039204 937053 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#quit < 1338039205 169555 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: oonbotti < 1338039238 169945 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338039245 689598 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 42 . < 1338039245 883674 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1338039441 506904 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also only words >R R@ R> - * / MOD : ; are written in python. everything else is written in forth < 1338039444 501037 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ words < 1338039444 694721 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET + DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338039459 668345 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and forget is also written in python < 1338039472 123128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: % was the prefix it used < 1338039477 828993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had other commands too :P < 1338039484 996281 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1338039485 190508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$42 is how much I paid for it < 1338039487 823357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much? < 1338039488 728155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$42 . < 1338039508 11440 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott remember to put space between $ and 42 < 1338039510 529121 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 42 . < 1338039510 723161 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1338039513 347410 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 42 . < 1338039513 541511 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1338039516 120021 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$42 . < 1338039535 67677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was deliberately omitting it so I had the chance to possibly complain about your new prefix :P < 1338039619 966363 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also thought using * as prefix and make bot complain if command was not found but then i rememberd what it is used for < 1338039624 700101 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*remembered < 1338039634 342225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it used for < 1338039646 600472 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixing you typos < 1338039741 227394 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also if it wouldn't need space between $ and words to execute there would be even more annoyance < 1338039744 627383 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :# 42. < 1338039748 488732 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 42. < 1338039748 683372 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Word not found < 1338039825 868344 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ forget + < 1338039833 544319 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ forget drop < 1338039838 832838 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ forget dup < 1338039840 219848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: oh, right < 1338039842 618095 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ forget swap < 1338039847 908241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :botte will theoretically use . as a prefix < 1338039848 407271 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ forget nip < 1338039849 136524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.foo < 1338039854 807549 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ words < 1338039855 1545 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338039875 460699 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : dup >r r@ r> ; < 1338039887 112875 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : drop dup - - ; < 1338039900 434609 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : + >r 0 r> - - ; < 1338039925 719070 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : swap over >r >r drop r> r> ; < 1338039937 757690 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : nip swap drop ; < 1338039991 28768 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is how these words are implemented in my forth interpreter < 1338040013 901294 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338040070 87070 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remember correctly I could also implement OVER in forth but I don't really see how if I don't have swap < 1338040144 329211 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338040278 964422 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ resetenv < 1338040283 649632 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ words < 1338040283 843682 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET + DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338040358 457268 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 1 0 / . < 1338040370 402102 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 13 5 + . < 1338040370 596340 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 < 1338040384 929776 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ . . < 1338040385 123861 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Stack underflow < 1338040388 320133 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ . < 1338040388 514474 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Stack underflow < 1338040622 278314 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338042134 616821 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338042205 152689 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338042289 171204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338042571 7579 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338042684 604306 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338042756 640571 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-192.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338043149 881738 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1338044304 905725 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338044307 932041 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1338044308 126381 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338044868 468193 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338044923 793388 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DOES OTOOL OUTPUT AT&T ASSEMBLER SYNTAX ;C < 1338044960 810762 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because all the associated tools INPUT AT&T assembler syntax? < 1338044976 983777 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even stupid gdb has an option for that < 1338045005 824731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otool does too, I think. < 1338045028 750092 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ apple's gdb is too old or too stupid to understand disas \m and \r options that i need < 1338045081 136318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution starts with l and ends with inux < 1338045091 616425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or starts with bsd and ends with the null string < 1338045123 815657 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it starts with m and ends with inix? < 1338045137 65906 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Actually it ends with "BSD" and starts with a variety of other words. < 1338045155 777156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was considering saying that < 1338045158 942891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: no < 1338045166 459659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing starts with m and ends with inix other than suffering < 1338045169 524821 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could just build binutils on OS X < 1338045176 411800 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like it < 1338045181 268761 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm too lazy < 1338045191 902528 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: And then enjoy it not being able to meaningfully handle any of the native binaries? < 1338045200 82581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: ok < 1338045224 636561 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather write a ruby script to crunch otool's output < 1338045240 381678 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 1.5 runs on my old machines, 2 is fast and requires minimal amount of memory and 3 is pretty stable < 1338045243 833047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suffering also starts with r and ends with uby < 1338045251 208882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: thanks for this information < 1338045258 771527 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ruby on minix! < 1338045261 912754 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why? < 1338045279 81830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i don't know why suffering exists < 1338045298 99840 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why it starts with r and ends with uby? < 1338045323 310216 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also why do you think that suffering starts with m and ends with minix < 1338045327 459417 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*inix < 1338045328 655736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: well you're about to find that out for yourself < 1338045377 447894 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i code ruby for at least 3 years and still didn't notice anything < 1338045401 737420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there may be a bigger problem < 1338045425 724800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes people start with s and end with uffering < 1338045427 844456 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it's quite slow < 1338046107 744229 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338046108 177949 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1338046108 372834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338046435 669529 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sergei von Uffering? < 1338046446 424654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338046448 75898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1338046451 530005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your cloak is broken < 1338046484 864221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1338047196 259886 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1338047205 60744 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ karma \ lib \ maketext \ monqy \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom < 1338047220 15262 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls monqy/ < 1338047222 916578 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access monqy/: Not a directory < 1338047229 358607 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat monqy < 1338047231 819756 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338047241 123948 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file maketext < 1338047244 33438 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :maketext: directory < 1338047252 894328 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls maketext/ < 1338047255 570802 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1338047262 112146 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1338047280 678201 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -F maketext/ < 1338047283 259007 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1338047285 894353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -F maketext < 1338047288 684937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat maketext/0 < 1338047288 879239 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1338047291 392350 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338047294 209288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r maketext < 1338047297 420906 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338047300 830774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm monqy < 1338047304 178804 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338047317 272677 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1338047319 805517 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: empty < 1338047348 568055 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls karma/ < 1338047351 147531 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access karma/: Not a directory < 1338047357 790512 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat karma < 1338047360 569987 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie now has 1 karma. < 1338047403 899322 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat karma | pastelogs < 1338047414 841214 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat karma | paste < 1338047417 343487 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10030 < 1338047418 544017 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28886 < 1338047475 116622 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :iteresting < 1338047483 923197 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file paste < 1338047486 437381 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste: directory < 1338047621 923141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma < 1338047626 83535 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :has 0 karma. < 1338047637 246427 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma < 1338047642 95439 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :has 0 karma. < 1338047643 371480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the karma thing is broken because gregor is terible < 1338047656 289618 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma < 1338047656 521200 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 1 < 1338047671 897511 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^karma < 1338047675 693016 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!karma < 1338047678 792936 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%karma < 1338047688 505985 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#karma < 1338048153 330375 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1338048322 355167 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338048768 114628 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma < 1338048773 251720 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :has 0 karma. < 1338048779 284231 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma nortti < 1338048783 904994 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti has 0 karma. < 1338048796 660782 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma Taneb < 1338048802 39896 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb has 0 karma. < 1338048810 5233 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma Taneb < 1338048810 505528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 0 < 1338048814 36937 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1338048835 233540 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma fizzie < 1338048839 755482 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has 0 karma. < 1338048847 764001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb++ < 1338048854 663174 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma < 1338048855 398746 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 2 < 1338048857 20605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait i think I fixed `karma < 1338048861 457780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`++ Taneb < 1338048863 830638 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ++: not found < 1338048867 562721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma+ Taneb < 1338048871 53380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget how it works < 1338048872 515461 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb now has 1 karma. < 1338048874 198741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma Taneb < 1338048877 989550 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ HackEgo < 1338048878 183654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's karma raised to 1. < 1338048879 449281 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb has 1 karma. < 1338048884 46110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/karma < 1338048886 695296 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.11427 < 1338048893 270004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste lib/karma < 1338048896 373803 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12049 < 1338048902 311865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1338048905 30704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's broken < 1338048910 100992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it works < 1338048910 719011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1338049263 856551 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338049276 517839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Guest28135 < 1338049279 590304 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest28135: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338049311 484457 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1338049339 550082 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are you and what has taken you here? < 1338049360 618878 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me? < 1338049375 860127 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoy < 1338049378 31128 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you < 1338049409 729303 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just looking for new friends < 1338049454 603757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'ere lots of friends here < 1338049457 431969 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know anything about esoteric programming languages? < 1338049457 626262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :practically a friend party < 1338049463 364175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: what're those < 1338049471 556448 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: asl plz? < 1338049471 750419 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1338049494 454294 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: asl pls? < 1338049516 200635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/m/texas < 1338049524 244212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(texas is a country in the south pacific) < 1338049529 241223 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest28135: 14/m/Finland < 1338049530 312834 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3? < 1338049535 511609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes 3 < 1338049538 883317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;m a dog < 1338049543 817666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like 47 in human years or something < 1338049545 788509 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, texas is austria < 1338049562 38453 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew < 1338049575 749410 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wew < 1338049578 55126 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: by the way are the kangaroos moved there yet < 1338049635 52844 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20/m/kuta < 1338049636 381809 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: not sure, ask Gregor < 1338049961 738427 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-201-37.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338050051 940538 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-198-86.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338050407 958201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338050437 277617 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338050443 498502 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338050444 189047 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1338050475 270882 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asl pls? < 1338050491 993507 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1338050538 315768 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338050755 195261 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: asl? < 1338050764 162964 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338050819 205959 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, know any good Forth tutorials? < 1338050827 680967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1338050848 618920 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please recommend one perhaps? < 1338050866 405700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont remenmber the ones i know < 1338050872 445457 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1338051006 972324 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you know about them if you don't remember them? < 1338051042 715472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i know how but i don't remember how < 1338051448 469643 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn forth some time < 1338051879 34628 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338052923 337749 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: statring forth < 1338052983 177101 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can use oonbotti's interactive forth interpreter < 1338052993 172591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't thinking forth better < 1338053006 915706 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric : haha < 1338053023 583155 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338053031 792188 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck otool -> http://pastie.org/3972547 < 1338053048 241735 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEllo < 1338053064 708669 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna start a Dwarf Fortress over an aquifer < 1338053066 596128 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: what is funny? < 1338053084 769060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you termcasting it < 1338053089 752848 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT YET < 1338053094 771307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338053096 16529 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i've added machine code to the output < 1338053097 797071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im watching monqy play twice at once < 1338053116 746055 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some colors (visible only in terminal) < 1338053118 704303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice tele traps < 1338053119 761379 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: to what output? < 1338053122 560116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this vaults loot < 1338053137 436486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice giant newt dying < 1338053147 338002 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now just a small function left to translate at&t into intel syntax < 1338053159 762570 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: to the otool's output of course < 1338053200 316965 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: when do you start termcasting? < 1338053208 348041 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHORTLY < 1338053213 578687 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep refreshing < 1338053227 1504 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this with starting over an aquifier? < 1338053237 335811 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never done that because i was afraid < 1338053245 402216 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STARTED < 1338053289 67224 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338053310 105158 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: why is there no bindump on your platform? < 1338053334 59801 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think I mean objdump < 1338053368 586768 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever... you know, that tool that already does all that stuff you want < 1338053399 627152 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: OS X has shitty thing called otool instead < 1338053404 361416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :objdump does sound like the right tool for the job < 1338053414 834438 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and binutils are not very good with handling native binaries < 1338053441 656480 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i know about objdump guys... i'd used it if i could < 1338053543 238534 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, you already know about it? then why aren't you using it! < 1338053551 887492 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE OS X! < 1338053614 216870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :feels like the correct solution to this problem is finishing the binutils port for mac < 1338053635 664642 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortress name, anyone? < 1338053668 148143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something stupid < 1338053685 625285 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seizurebears? < 1338053690 930590 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: call it "TANEBS FORTRESS" < 1338053703 2027 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I'm afraid I can't do that < 1338053710 406132 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seizurebees! < 1338053712 141264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: poopborn < 1338053714 773672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338053716 101746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seizurebees < 1338053720 141257 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1338053722 557776 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. < 1338053723 241260 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheesurebees < 1338053723 506232 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Group name? < 1338053727 943081 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngved < 1338053728 137528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beeseizures < 1338053730 433984 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngved? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1338053734 125631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338053734 320250 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :beeizures < 1338053735 606759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338053736 844353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1338053739 964499 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:����s.�6p[.o�@5�|36ay�lMߋ�Uϧ�9Wg{��T�;��%�����m�.�(9�R�)��d9��o�=��KXA�КzbwdhFeo���~��.�..��&r��G�h�ϡDJl穬 ��).g�\�.��5��^s.������(��.�.j.v�6��������I!b���t��.Y���X�{�?..����..m�T.)�X*K.�.��/@.�.Ȟ��F��@��s.��..�..�v�!...�N�2�..��E���.�F..w~CF�<��.�.���z��l*���.�̠�ڡ^!}.>.�Cț���.���n�w+���[. \ ���浒���#(.l.A��.�.5�;���Mz..H���[3��Z��'GyT���?.ξ].+1���.��f��3�?Ѫ�.�|�)ua�!�2s��)��I�� < 1338053750 509626 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is not null terminated < 1338053756 801208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1338053759 688514 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\�.V��u`|�pF�^��&L�\�ǂ>.;�.�J��./�թfZDnċ.�="5�W��s��TW�W�(P3����4�%�|_ \ �vң����׶.��iQ\�1.v�l&����.�Q����S��%���퍽��)����#�rP�b.s.�S\8�n.UH�뤈.��皦 o<��`7{h3<<��^֍�c�-�N��.�.�|��Rӝ?�1v���9h9s.�/y���A!�]�A8��v$�=��>���.Z�u��.؝�Pq.�_C�?>�.�qf�.�Yۓ���ф�PSB�c��|_9�J�ǩ..�a��.��ָ8l�i.Mxo� \ ��..��f��&�.���.�Y�.H�6W0.��7�.� �.�O�䠖�Y.��.�� < 1338053765 801112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw people watching the termcast < 1338053767 721379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 80x25 not 80x24 < 1338053767 956274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1338053791 611443 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EMBARK TIME < 1338053801 238473 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(80x25 is default for DF) < 1338053802 182689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what partty name < 1338053803 280712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you pick < 1338053813 332362 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beeseizures < 1338053825 682552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1338053830 826899 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1338053833 656129 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beeseizures of Doom < 1338053847 730159 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :type x*y into google < 1338053853 946403 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing anything really gets bigger than my 160x30 terminal < 1338053884 350924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did that really say oklo < 1338053894 575050 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... not sure < 1338054010 531856 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... < 1338054017 565400 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought aquifers were more wet < 1338054030 493841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what happens is when you dig the rock goes all bade. < 1338054033 92086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the wiki for informatione < 1338054043 202119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't jsut want to dig down < 1338054047 598488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there s a trick to it < 1338054088 332024 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder where 80x25 comes from < 1338054109 8960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dos < 1338054110 431851 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: MS-DOS? < 1338054113 203036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather bios < 1338054117 170973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather ibm pc in general < 1338054135 37803 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weren't there some other terminals that had that amount of chars before? < 1338054135 301946 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :VGA BIOS. < 1338054138 96574 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338054169 602896 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the width of 80 comes from the size of punch cards, which was based on the size of late-19th century american dollars, iirc < 1338054201 568962 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah vt100 had 80x24 chars < 1338054305 609509 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably where the pc's 80x25 comes from < 1338054343 996278 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and probably various signal timing considerations :D < 1338054483 713808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you check wiki < 1338054487 325288 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1338054489 79060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not yuo're fortress will probably die < 1338054489 878401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good < 1338054501 875759 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fortress will probably die anyway < 1338054506 293497 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is Dwarf Fortress < 1338054584 93593 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm me < 1338054611 835846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for values of probably equal to certainly < 1338055121 71114 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338055198 95754 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338055316 461115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, 320x224 used to be a very common screen res because it was easy to get it out of a standard TV < 1338055382 942384 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because the real tv resolution is 240 lines (from 262.5 if you count HBlank), but TVs overscan for some retarded reason so you only get about 224 < 1338055401 580727 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they decided to not make any content for those extra lines over 224 :D < 1338055513 781201 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 NICK :Mike < 1338055543 275604 :Mike!~T@112.215.45.203 NICK :Guest86467 < 1338055561 639565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest86467: you can't use a name reserved by someone else, try a different name < 1338055636 294053 :Guest86467!~T@112.215.45.203 NICK :Guestxxxxx < 1338055644 675280 :Guestxxxxx!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hihihi < 1338055664 291403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338055671 617667 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkstemp(Guestxxxxx) < 1338055771 262892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: has to be six Xs, and they have to be capital < 1338055790 676445 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: THANK YOU FOR EXAMINING MY JOKE, CAPTAIN PEDANTRY. < 1338055792 32437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks that that's a somewhat weird restriction
< 1338055794 178979 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :UP, UP AND AWAY < 1338055810 352544 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also for SNES, 16 extra lines of vblank is nice) < 1338055844 842342 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and saving 16 lines of fillrate on psx is also nice :D ) < 1338055985 591040 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In *your* system’s definition of mkstemp, sure. :-P < 1338056003 66088 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338056187 631898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote cblink < 1338056191 170170 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :825) hack and back? works on anything much slower than you at the cost of: guilt, hating yourself, me sending you the message "hi" am I also forbidden to cast mephitic cloud and cblink i will also send you "hi" if you: kite excessively, use mephitic cloud, -yes < 1338056382 301742 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a coati? < 1338056427 836903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google what's a coati < 1338056430 490475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.zooborns.com/zooborns/2009/07/darmstadt-zoo-germany-coati-babies.html < 1338056430 684547 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: What's a Coati? - ZooBorns < 1338056569 909481 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338057032 623837 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going now, bye < 1338057046 700208 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338058357 985384 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133EEC.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338058773 845292 :Guestxxxxx!~T@112.215.45.203 QUIT :Quit: Rooms • iPhone IRC Client • http://www.roomsapp.mobi < 1338058932 981316 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338058968 77671 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-151-77.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338059195 310442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338059350 36856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck4 forest < 1338059426 11292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fuck4 forest < 1338059462 437594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338059466 227181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1338059467 507700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that fuck4 < 1338059473 638744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get to tell them about preview < 1338059496 732958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how sad that they will never know < 1338059566 803470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you get to tell them about preview < 1338059609 277555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1338059619 503529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed that one of my RC entries was actually 22 condensed < 1338059639 558776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, everyone else should use RSS recent changes too, avoids the problem neatly :) < 1338059716 747372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and informed < 1338059734 761238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1338059874 11042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120525/04185919074/tv-networks-file-legal-claims-saying-skipping-commercials-is-copyright-infringement.shtml < 1338059890 701790 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :KMines’ clock seems to wrap around hourly. < 1338059912 848190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how horrible is dgamelaunch < 1338059923 893354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly less horrible than "horrible" < 1338059929 705899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound good < 1338059932 521518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps "quirky" < 1338059935 67150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how easy is it to set up :P < 1338059941 132249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know how to set it up already, it's easy < 1338059942 547788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, how much system load does it drain?) < 1338059946 680810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, I recommend finding instructions somewhere < 1338059952 81469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rephrase: would it slow the wiki down) < 1338059971 973135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could just write my own server but ehhh < 1338059980 785797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dgl itself doesn't put a huge amount of load on the server < 1338059984 55036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things it's running might do < 1338060011 8019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll put a higher load on if things produce a lot of output, because of trying to record it < 1338060031 62176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll disable autoexplore :P < 1338060345 959281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: would asking you questions about dgamelaunch be productive? < 1338060369 152072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sadly, the person I find most knowledgeable about dgl at the moment is kerio < 1338060376 959054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably refer questions to him < 1338060384 318184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or paxed, who's the current maintainer, but is typically very busy) < 1338060386 736100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1338060393 627614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you get all the suffering < 1338060417 32006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my question is: is dgamelaunch protocol-agnostic, i.e. can I run it behind anything that can start a remote process, or does it hook into telnet/ssh specially? < 1338060433 298255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I think I know that one, you configure telnet/ssh to run it < 1338060449 899029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I should be able to get it to run behind mosh, then < 1338060465 272913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: imagine a server that lets you know when you're lagging instead of having to mash an invalid key!!! < 1338060549 237354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think monqy is imagining hard enough < 1338060721 280043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice oriph < 1338060736 848359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: fire storm "considered op in light" < 1338060747 604482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's op in regular crawl too < 1338060748 846355 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no surprise < 1338060762 309682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicer range in light though < 1338060779 154505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's ok i'll imagine it without you < 1338060846 823374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which: < 1338060866 243967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it possible to adjust how long mosh waits before complaining about lag < 1338061048 433132 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only by editing the source code < 1338061080 688819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :( < 1338061084 475407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long does it normally wait? < 1338061137 991395 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember < 1338061141 68386 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 10s or so < 1338061177 349586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1338061179 430218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather 1-2s < 1338061183 421650 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1338061187 824476 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go ahead and change it < 1338061195 420236 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but note that the default heartbeat interval is 3s < 1338061212 412803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather not have to get anyone who wants to use my server to patch and compile mosh < 1338061214 125203 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if nothing is happening you will get a "lag" warning every 3s < 1338061227 333398 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the message is a client side thing < 1338061232 447299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok 3s is acceptable < 1338061236 9963 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, i guess they would need to compile it themselves < 1338061242 41312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for a roguelike < 1338061247 637511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which the most annoying lag only lasts a second or two < 1338061265 420995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'd be nice to be notified of it rather than having to spam a key that has some visual effect < 1338061270 812622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make sure you're not playing blindly < 1338061589 736901 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANNOUNCEMENT: < 1338061591 670240 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a kitty. < 1338061609 936889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338061625 340326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how easy would it be for the mosh server to be able to control how long to wait before complaining about lag < 1338061636 800599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or how long the heartbeat interval is < 1338061665 959043 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with unmodified clients? i don't think that's possible < 1338061672 393698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1338061677 579414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how easy would it be for mosh to allow that < 1338061685 615265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon someone is going to wonder what happened to the previous kitties. < 1338061729 190628 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think it would not be too hard < 1338061740 167020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yay < 1338061745 176719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps Gregor is one of those cat ladies. < 1338061745 371636 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would just make these parameters be part of the terminal-state object which is synchronized between client and server < 1338061756 989478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do i need to yell at people to get it to happen :P < 1338061768 371169 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends on whether your yelling takes the form of a patch < 1338061776 884468 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see a great need for this feature; maybe you can elaborate < 1338061789 610384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338061791 767028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:40 it's for a roguelike < 1338061791 961506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:40 in which the most annoying lag only lasts a second or two < 1338061791 961679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:41 and it'd be nice to be notified of it rather than having to spam a key that has some visual effect < 1338061793 672819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:41 to make sure you're not playing blindly < 1338061804 698885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it waits like 10 seconds before notifying you there's lag < 1338061810 484560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you still have to do that a bunch < 1338061812 76337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is annoying < 1338061831 431153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I could configure the server to say "hey, heartbeat every one second and complain about lag every one second" < 1338061834 796043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would be massively reduced < 1338061865 182078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :It is the year 2525 and man is still alive | I think pointers are considerably more useful than lambda calculus | 12345678 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1338061902 567973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those digits for elliott? < 1338061909 164134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does he still have the keyboard problem? < 1338061909 557157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they were < 1338061918 400615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive just gotten really fast at copying and pasting < 1338061923 750552 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it seems more reasonable to have it be configured by the client, rather than something the server pushes to the client < 1338061925 523974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the topic is anachronistic < 1338061969 305644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fair enough, but "mosh server" is easier to tell people to type than "mosh --heartbeat=1 --lag-timeout=1 server" < 1338061984 116811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems reasonable for the server to be able to specify a default < 1338062005 952057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and thus you are discovering that mosh and telnet are designed to solve different problems < 1338062021 247907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't see the relevance < 1338062027 848419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does telnet solve my problem any better < 1338062038 566632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet does not even indicate lag at all < 1338062057 556295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can write a telnet client that does < 1338062059 620081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TAEB uses one) < 1338062106 378145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh has other advantages too < 1338062113 292222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why you think it's less suitable than telnet < 1338062151 378396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338062210 859885 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a strange point to make, given that the mosh client already indicates lag < 1338062222 333933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what point is strange to make? < 1338062229 206982 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you can make a telnet client that does < 1338062234 576892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by way of contrasting with mosh < 1338062251 567850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you were talking about ais523's point < 1338062261 502921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what ais523 is talking about really :P < 1338062271 526607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a counterargument to elliott's argument < 1338062296 361356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which argument < 1338062301 105211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338062305 580760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's your original argument that doesn't make any sense < 1338062308 496143 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree that mosh and telnet solve different problems though < 1338062312 578748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the different problems mosh and telnet are trying to solve, in your opinion < 1338062318 754898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why is my problem more like the problem telnet solves than the problem mosh solves < 1338062322 365467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and what do you think my problem is) < 1338062332 543837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, things like ssh are basically based around solving /authentication/ < 1338062338 519141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to run a shell remotely and proving it's you < 1338062350 905616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh is based around how, inside a single-user session, you can keep it connected and so on < 1338062358 415422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet is more broadcasty, it allows anyone to connect without checking < 1338062364 398075 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main difference i see is that telnet and ssh convey a reliable octet stream from one point to another < 1338062368 118003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, telnet is a really well-designed protocol < 1338062375 473809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all sorts of extensions < 1338062387 689072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mosh does not depend on ssh < 1338062395 573923 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas mosh synchronizes the current state of your terminal, without regard for the past < 1338062396 607213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and roaming is not the only advantage it offers < 1338062399 787634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it does for auth, doesn't it? < 1338062403 133646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: only by default < 1338062406 227637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1338062415 963664 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there are two layers to mosh < 1338062434 635184 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the lower layer you run mosh-server, it prints an AES key, then you convey that to the client securely (this is up to you) and run mosh-client < 1338062436 589158 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone's done much with *other* mosh authentication schemes, but the design of it (as far as I'm aware) is such that you could reasonably use anything. < 1338062450 168991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:59 whereas mosh synchronizes the current state of your terminal, without regard for the past < 1338062456 766385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one reason I find mosh desirable, btw < 1338062468 32027 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for the common case of authenticating over ssh, we provide a wrapper script that runs mosh-server and mosh-client for you < 1338062472 145180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's likely to be more efficient at updating a changing game screen < 1338062472 632009 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an utility to batch convert unix text files to cr-lf format < 1338062480 504958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also because it means that setting your TERM to something different doesn't break spectators < 1338062483 722245 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: unix2dos < 1338062484 556319 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: unix2dos < 1338062501 12070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, and I find ssh a preferable auth mechanism to telnet < 1338062502 621475 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it console or gui < 1338062506 183203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because sending passwords in the clear sucks < 1338062509 958735 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Console. < 1338062512 161942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, many roguelike servers use ssh already < 1338062513 401885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the compression < 1338062516 61907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just tell telnet to use ssl < 1338062524 305745 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Batch convert"? GUIs suck for that. < 1338062533 475053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think you're trolling at this point < 1338062546 731397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: telnet with ssl is installed and currently running on nethack4.org < 1338062546 925813 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: was thinking of something more like oggdropXPd < 1338062551 956865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i am aware of this < 1338062553 998911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also irrelevant < 1338062566 664667 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie a GUI app designed to convert a lot of files conveiniently < 1338062572 331361 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: So, you want a child's toy. < 1338062575 614107 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338062576 6000 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there is https://github.com/dmilith/genmosh < 1338062593 690773 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want something that's convenient < 1338062597 898370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: for x in *.c; do unix2dos "$x"; done < 1338062599 208134 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: for i in *.txt; do unix2dos $i; done < 1338062600 124865 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't really like console apps < 1338062601 594330 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last time I looked at the code, it seemed like a security disaster < 1338062607 600346 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm running win7 < 1338062617 176331 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you want a child's toy. Got it. < 1338062623 567199 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus no < 1338062631 50476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"child's toy" is a really stupid way of phrasing that < 1338062633 641735 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi, how can I batch convert unix to dos files? but i have to do it while blindfolded using only my left pinky toe" < 1338062643 223415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a console application is really going to be 10x more convenient for converting a bunch of files in batch < 1338062646 921794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :than having to select each one < 1338062653 777868 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get some real tools and then use them to solve your problem < 1338062655 599477 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: more like highlight a bunch of files in explorer, drag, drop, kdone < 1338062663 865893 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :faster than the stupid console < 1338062668 208019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realise you can drag things to console programs right < 1338062686 454433 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so I wouldn't recommedn this genmosh to anyone ;P but it's at least an example of someone making an alt mechanism and publishing it < 1338062698 593293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I typically use a one-liner Perl script, unix2dos never seems to be installed when I need it < 1338062701 891847 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, in Windows, if you select a bunch of files and drag it onto a console program, it passes those files as arguments. < 1338062704 785690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish web browsers supported ssh authentication < 1338062710 551362 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe it got less disastrous < 1338062713 662286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/is/ unix2dos a one-liner Perl script, I wonder? never thought of checking) < 1338062718 640833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is < 1338062720 914796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh key authentication < 1338062724 635335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Windows, it is possible to drag files from Explorer into the command prompt window. < 1338062738 512201 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's a good example of the *principle* that you can implement alternate authentication. < 1338062739 109196 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: doesn't that tend to bust the command line length limit? < 1338062746 873500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly a similar program could be made for Linux too < 1338062752 61603 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: or was that just a win98 limitation < 1338062758 691944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :another good reason not to use windows :) < 1338062765 680075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it depend on the version? I seem to remember that that doesn't work from Windows Vista onwards due to some complicated security thing involving messaging < 1338062778 593154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it already works in linux < 1338062785 864092 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: Huh, it's 32k. < 1338062786 58399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with reasonable file browser/terminal combinations < 1338062789 216525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338062793 741418 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, I compose music, the win32/64 programs for that are just much, much better than the linux ones < 1338062795 364138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasonable as in similar < 1338062808 172486 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: so install a real command line environment for windows < 1338062816 502276 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as cygwin < 1338062818 204585 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, cygwin is retarded < 1338062825 120121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1338062829 421054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you want help or do you want to complain and annoy everybody < 1338062833 485119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the latter, please just /part instead < 1338062837 3157 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me that you now have a task different from composing music, for which win32/64 may not be a good choice < 1338062851 553965 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: When I compose music I find the programs best which are cross-platform anyways < 1338062852 341006 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wanted some useful nice tool < 1338062855 74083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: don't you know the old aphorism "use the right tool for one specific job I do and the wrong tool for everything else" < 1338062866 691133 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that the operating system is really relevant at all here < 1338062870 646877 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: k, I think you have your answer by now that we don't know of one < 1338062878 825493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: well, you've been offered several practical and convenient ways to do what you want < 1338062896 486321 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been offered one yes < 1338062914 798392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple awyways < 1338062927 237619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For music I use things such as MCK < 1338062930 517362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can convert in WordPad, I think, although not batch-convert < 1338062939 92485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a console program and drag stuff to it (whether the icon itself or a running console prompt); or install cygwin and use that to circumvent limits with the previous solution < 1338062942 804671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and also allow convenient globbing) < 1338062943 477428 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also been preached to for not liking neckbearded tools and the command line < 1338062953 814246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't care if people don't like command lines < 1338062960 43216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, GUI programs are bad at batch jobs; you can design a GUI for one specific batch job, but you can't make a general one to handle batch-ising of jobs < 1338062962 741831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I care if people complaing when they're suggested for good and justified reasons and then just yell and insult people < 1338062965 950265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you're doing now < 1338062969 122332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's a GUI version of xargs, nor can even figure out how one would work < 1338062971 837122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, just go away < 1338062979 4820 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the option of reporting bugs in a bunch of software: programs SHOULD support most reasonable newline conventions. < 1338062988 233490 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: for some very specific case you'll have to use batch scripts yeah < 1338063012 268757 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Select a group of files, drag them to an executable. By GUI convention, that behaves like xargs. < 1338063017 535103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even not in those cases, I often do anyway because it's a much simpler and faster way of expressing what I want < 1338063017 728980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: we already suggested that < 1338063025 517240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that behaves like xargs for opening files < 1338063026 428594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr isn't happy because it involves a console window popping up at some point presumably < 1338063030 233488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he'd be a neckbeard!!! < 1338063031 17683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an equivalent for performing transformations? < 1338063037 125705 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not REALLY reading, this conversation is very stupid. < 1338063060 549854 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nah, drag and drop to console apps is fine < 1338063071 4748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...then why are you still complaining < 1338063075 610985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the second thing suggested < 1338063088 615771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"neckbearded tool" < 1338063102 448865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find usually even drag/drop not needed since you can use wildcards and/or tab completion, but sometimes dragging the files to the command-line window is very useful < 1338063139 844468 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, but you're not offended by the idea of using a command line tool. :) < 1338063176 384229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if using a system that does not support dragging between windows, if there is a clipboard (such as the X clipboard or whatever) you can make it that whatever files are selected their full paths goes on the clipboard. < 1338063204 563551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the PRIMARY buffer, so that you can then middle-click the terminal emulator window to paste the names there. < 1338063303 901293 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a neckbearded solution < 1338063357 616227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone hecked my aim and it gave me a neckbeard < 1338063359 895250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1338063365 878036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else have we been referencing for the past 17 years < 1338063393 730393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone hecked my aim and it trapped me in a matrix of solidity, causing me to grow a neckbeard < 1338063397 990365 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a neckbeard anyway? < 1338063415 80721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the clue's in the name < 1338063481 110261 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to me that neckbeard should either be just "beard" or just "hair" < 1338063488 559512 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on which side of the neck you're referring to < 1338063542 412547 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: statring forth <-- thanks < 1338063558 635245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i think thinking forth is meant to be better < 1338063561 76678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't recall exactly < 1338063563 585376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same author) < 1338063564 421472 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : and you can use oonbotti's interactive forth interpreter <-- I'm learning forth because I need to use it, so I already have a target implementation in mind < 1338063566 304081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've read neither) < 1338063574 365077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: forth implementations tend to differ wildly < 1338063580 295511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the one you are planning to use? < 1338063600 570880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's a specific kind of beard < 1338063617 934412 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you know about the minecraft mod redpower2? Adds a fully emulated 6802 running forth into minecraft. :) < 1338063624 993466 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as of the last version) < 1338063628 809741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don;t have a beard. there's just a black hole underneath my face < 1338063636 476273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ok well the chances that's ans forth are pretty low i'd say < 1338063655 421763 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I looked at it, and it looks like pre ans forth yeah. < 1338063662 694653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has been a singularitarian too long < 1338063669 127104 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, based on the internet, I think I've identified my usual beard as a neckbeard < 1338063704 82122 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure... am I supposed to shave my face but leave my neck, for it to become a neckbeard? < 1338063705 234545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: then any intro book will probably cease being useful to you after a sufficient number of chapters < 1338063711 911205 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway that mod is cool, you can put redwire (basically better behaved redstone dust, that doesn't fade so quickly, can be insulated, can run on walls and much more) < 1338063713 532451 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338063746 691320 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I just need help getting started with the basics really. < 1338063772 58887 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think the idea is that a neckbeard is an extension of a regular beard.. < 1338063785 329643 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, redpower is awesomeness. < 1338063804 647414 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the first time ive heard that word though < 1338063863 864332 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also that mod has probably the lowest density memory ever: 8K expansion modules connected to the backplane, each module a full cubic meter! < 1338063900 514857 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: By Minecraft standards that's impossibly high density. < 1338063909 331920 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite! < 1338063912 26399 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not so sure now < 1338063940 238824 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, looked at Mystcraft btw? It is basically a mod that lets you write books linking to new dimensions (with certain properties you discover by experimenting and can then use at will), in Myst style < 1338063943 871379 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a nice mod < 1338063944 706203 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Little bit. < 1338063947 728114 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty neat. < 1338063965 34807 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Checked out frames in RP? < 1338063967 86731 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :other great mod: logistics pipes (addon for buildcraft). < 1338063987 893787 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, that is what I'm going to use my forth skills (that I'm planning to learn) for. < 1338063999 949266 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good choice. :) < 1338064008 38997 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :automated mining machine. With the enterchest mod to move stuff back to base. < 1338064031 783350 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338064039 797723 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I have a lot of mods installed. Using the multimc launcher currently, it is really good. < 1338064063 344570 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :handles installing the mods for you, you just drag the zip files into it and it handles the rest < 1338064066 690520 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use some hacked up shell scripts. :) < 1338064076 583714 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I'm too lazy for that < 1338064096 728230 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I needed something that was cross platform, since I sometimes dual boot one computer to windows < 1338064121 324524 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, anyway: used logistics pipes? < 1338064125 522195 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah. < 1338064128 693881 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is t3h awesome. < 1338064157 207969 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have like 250 auto crafting tables set up along the walls of a room, with logistics pipes connected to them < 1338064171 821837 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :only issue is that the request interface gets clunking with that many recipes < 1338064223 150408 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, many mod recipes are downright annoying. Like the frame motors.... Oh and the wireless redstone ones (another mod, using the one that integrates with redpower) < 1338064316 805444 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you need to make an obsidian stick, then a "reather pearl" (sp?), then combine those. Then combine that with a stone bowl you just crafted. Now you have an antenna dish. And that is just about half the work of a transmitter or a reciever... < 1338064352 942234 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, actually that is for receiver, there is no dish for the transmitter < 1338064373 618645 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, anyway, which mods do you play with? < 1338064544 965804 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the bigs ones ATM are RP, IC, BC, logistics pipes, EE... < 1338064575 874061 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally: in jar: modloader, forge, mystcraft, NEI (for displaying recipes and for cheating in my test world), rei minimap, optifine. In mods/: buildcraft, equivalent exchange, ender chests, forestry, industrialcraft, invtweaks, laser mod, logistics pipe, compact solars (IC2 addon), ironchests, railcraft, redpower, treecapitator, WR-CBE (that is the wireless redstone one), somnia (so time is simulated < 1338064576 68551 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : while you sleep). Plus a few smaller buildcraft addons. < 1338064600 331286 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I forgot that IC2 addon that adds like induction furnace tire machines for macerator and so on < 1338064632 142054 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use the portal gun mod too. It is fun but a bit overpowered for survival... < 1338064693 912253 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you should try out railcraft. It is kind of neat. A bit more useful in SMP though I feel, since you don't tend to get cities to travel between in single player < 1338064718 761632 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, stuff like elevator rails are cool :) < 1338064805 330518 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys are still playing MC? < 1338064805 897899 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1338064817 643992 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: On occasion. < 1338064821 276005 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, only heavily modded MC. Wouldn't play vanilla any longer < 1338064832 15442 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not as much as I used to < 1338064835 61626 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens, really, is sometimes I get in the mood and play for a while, and then leave it abandoned for a while. < 1338064855 205173 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :played fallout new vegas today a lot. And a bit of MC < 1338064885 639549 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I found I roughly play every other release of MC. < 1338064910 223250 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hardly touched 1.1, did quite a bit on 1.0 and I am now playing 1.2.5 quite a bit < 1338065063 131282 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, btw I found that an issue with EE is that it pretty much makes any other sort of resource acquirement pointless once you reach the EE endgame. I could just slap down a mark 3 collector next to a energy condenser and set it to generate diamonds, then hook up a provider logistics pipe. And I no longer need to mine any diamonds... < 1338065106 929876 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: By the time you hit the EE endgame, resource acquisition is just an annoyance anyways. < 1338065111 511525 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1338065136 929854 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, but I hit it before redpower frames were added, so now I'm kind of hard pressed to find a use for my frames :P < 1338065209 426842 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently I have more red matter in my automated farm for that than I know what to do with. I started transmuting the stuff into pedestals to save space! < 1338065225 489377 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't like throwing away EMC) < 1338065271 712587 :FluffBall!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1338065332 342652 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, of course, since I have forestry I have not even reached close to the endgame of THAT. God damn bees with 8% chance of mutation... < 1338065374 129630 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338065381 822224 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, read the log :) < 1338065461 853962 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, every tried the forestry mod? < 1338065549 661264 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338065587 252564 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a nice kind-of-addon to buildcraft (it used to be an addon, but now it is technically freestanding, though significantly more useful with buildcraft). It adds biofuel for example, as an alternative to the finite oil resource of buildcraft. < 1338065640 709567 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also adds stuff like reed farms, tree farms, peat farms and what not. Oh and *really* in-depth beekeeping. < 1338065952 66324 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338066001 114567 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My new hobby http://youtu.be/_aW6d46VbpM < 1338066082 392386 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, did the guy inside survive? < 1338066140 504781 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know as much as you do. < 1338066209 221873 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Your new hobby is killing yourself in stupid ways? < 1338066225 955338 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: Yes, preferably losing an arm in the process. < 1338066285 977162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"derka derka allah jihad [+18]" the only thing stupider than youtube comments is the people who upvote youtube comments < 1338066296 831196 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard that ELKS has got an update? < 1338066304 592365 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I'm just amazed that guy didn't kill anyone else as well < 1338066370 360490 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, the quote is "derka derka muhammed jihad". < 1338066395 506243 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Verily. < 1338066440 471313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: it doesn't really matter what the quote is < 1338066474 301057 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Course, that movie was really, really stupid... < 1338067303 558006 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Weird, I'd have assumed ELKS to be pretty dead. < 1338067340 107499 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: me too. but they got release out after 6 years < 1338067425 150692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's some sort of a zombie kernel. < 1338067508 732941 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. they also got it to git and left cvs behind < 1338067556 581907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can elks even run git < 1338067609 384501 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1338067657 112187 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also got a new project: busyelks. it is busybox style thingie for elks. < 1338067797 624086 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ELKS? < 1338067838 528439 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Embeddable Linux Kernel Subset < 1338067845 347301 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does ELKS still use bcc? They should switch to owcc ... < 1338067849 514963 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, never heard of that one even < 1338067849 709225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1338067855 298083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Embeddable Linux Kernel System, isn't it < 1338067857 209890 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, so something like µclinux? < 1338067859 705359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the website disagrees with itself < 1338067865 564202 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: they still use bcc < 1338067877 217908 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: basicaly. but for 8086 < 1338067882 565933 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338067898 617985 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wasn't/isn't there a C compiler frontend with a name just like ELKS? < 1338067913 47672 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :something very close anyway? < 1338067984 673203 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh... need to sleep, just feel half asleep on top of my keyboard for a few seconds... < 1338067985 720340 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1338068095 349582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love microsleeps < 1338068215 508958 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s fun when you happen to be pushing some key at the time you fall to microsleep. < 1338068228 272968 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338068231 119980 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, “it’s fun when you happppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp” < 1338068245 849116 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1338068261 426137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :happpppy happpppy fun < 1338068310 704632 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might not even notice you took a short nap except that a bunch of repeated letters suddenly appeared on your screen. < 1338068702 501139 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1338068725 250958 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first set my hands in the right place, then type with my eyes shu.. and, little errors may start to creep in.. < 1338068740 419713 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its god if you just typing to type < 1338068877 208965 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trouble is overcompensating if you think you held a key too long < 1338068923 893936 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338068935 926883 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1338069008 943699 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338069017 571111 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B650.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338069017 963446 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1338069060 439202 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338069416 223076 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is owcc open watcom? what kind of license they have? < 1338069447 488532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is < 1338070159 551733 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is watching an IWBTG blind LP for some reason
< 1338070627 847417 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Yes, Open Watcom. It's under a wonky but usable license, FSF-rejected but OSI-approved because it actually /requires/ that you publish changes you make in certain circumstances where you don't even publish the binaries. < 1338070653 861088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: bleh, that's dfsg-violating < 1338070665 526361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would the OSI approve that? it's evil < 1338070683 538056 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfsg-violating? < 1338070701 642606 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's not a great license X-D < 1338070705 816303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google dfsg wikipedia < 1338070707 693332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines < 1338070707 955733 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Debian Free Software Guidelines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1338070722 354254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fails the desert islnad test < 1338070723 526005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*island < 1338070879 120935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the dissident test < 1338071050 495840 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs.
< 1338071063 841866 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (!strcmp, name, EXPECTED) { < 1338071070 391948 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering why my code was being odd. < 1338071099 146492 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, wow. < 1338071102 973221 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what :D < 1338071109 406486 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've been compiling with -Wall < 1338071423 686746 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, it is *valid* C, at least. < 1338071430 36512 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338071435 398562 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: That's the problem. :-( < 1338072039 500897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :strictly conforming, isn't it? < 1338072044 372847 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338072055 194693 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf++ < 1338072057 727850 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's *silly* behavior, but it's quite well-defined. < 1338072063 552973 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on the IOCCC are we < 1338072075 456991 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(silly in the sense of "nobody would intentionally do this") < 1338072217 956177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "valid" means "strictly conforming" in the context of C :P < 1338072223 924997 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133EEC.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1338072263 546641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah. < 1338072277 130958 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does gcc -Wall actually catch that < 1338072280 709575 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338072291 529293 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : warning: the address of ‘strcmp’ will always evaluate as ‘true’ [-Waddress] < 1338072301 948796 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : warning: left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect [-Wunused-value] < 1338072343 929534 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah nice < 1338072480 577052 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1338072480 809038 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1338072563 722624 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338072727 980678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats FireFly -----###
< 1338072780 283216 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What now? < 1338072792 466378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were severely under quota here < 1338072795 243803 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Are syscalls actually made through the VDSO? < 1338072815 334076 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1338072816 698333 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1338072817 829848 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1338072818 650873 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :537) elliott_, oh they are people known in the ruby community? Vorpal: Uh... you mean Hannah Montana? elliott_, yeah. And Zed Shaw. Either they are that or they come from popular culture. < 1338072819 174251 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1338072820 335467 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1338072821 9005 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338072826 945420 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :411) Gregor: do you have any idea how overrated lives are Damn right! < 1338072828 930430 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :195) That is the mark of Gregor right there. tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that It's still the mark of Gregor. < 1338072836 1366 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :718) The only way you could do better would be to implement Monopoly with chocolate. < 1338072839 31822 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :39) [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective < 1338072844 313609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :411 imo < 1338072845 238269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523? < 1338072849 845294 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: on Linux i386 it's the current preferred mechanism, though direct int $0x80 still works < 1338072850 39459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or 195 < 1338072851 550843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was about to say 411 < 1338072855 440250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 537 < 1338072860 527980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like 537 < 1338072860 747187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like 195 < 1338072864 313941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 411 < 1338072867 719478 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Gregor: do you have any idea how overrated lives are Damn right! < 1338072870 493260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, you ninja'd me < 1338072872 91015 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: on Linux amd64 you use the 'syscall' instruction directly, and the VDSO is only for userspace "vsyscalls" like gettimeofday < 1338072878 187774 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Ah, but on amd64 it just uses the syscall instruction? < 1338072884 688420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing I managed to cancel typing that, or I'd have to revert the deltion of the new 411 < 1338072886 99725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 411 < 1338072888 507112 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's what it was looking like. < 1338072889 459203 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :411) " Damn right!" wouldn't be much of a quote :P < 1338072895 105463 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastefortunes < 1338072900 564083 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.7017 < 1338072904 655096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, that one's deleratble too :) < 1338072908 469425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338072909 254263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave it < 1338072915 110587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must leave quotes that get their meaning removed < 1338072915 574157 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So where can I get a guaranteed executable syscall instruction in the address space? :-( < 1338072926 155148 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the VDSO (a) still has them and (b) isn't guaranteed. < 1338072934 521784 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't have any new ideas since last time < 1338072939 458724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 410 < 1338072942 751551 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :410) decrypt 'illustrates the "can do" approach of conservatism in a patriotic way' < 1338072955 125133 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean Intel 64®, not amd64. < 1338072963 464479 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that Intel® 64? < 1338072970 794929 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itanium < 1338072972 439892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works on both < 1338072973 595910 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better go with Intel® 64® just to be safe. < 1338072989 58932 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"intel 64" ≠ ia64 < 1338072993 757179 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338073015 239892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1338073020 735437 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just assume the names are maximally confusing < 1338073029 759490 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :intell's 64bit x86 CPUs are actually amd64 CPUs < 1338073043 64514 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-l < 1338073054 319014 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and they're also Intel® 64® CPUs. < 1338073069 442533 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you figure out an answer to newsham's question? < 1338073072 634010 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Or you! < 1338073083 236931 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pclmullqlqdq < 1338073091 695944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was newsham's question? < 1338073106 601107 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It was about how you can figure out the cardinalities of polymorphic types. < 1338073121 714974 :JKL1234-!~JKL1234@71-217-43-15.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338073133 309322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome JKL1234- < 1338073136 386162 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :JKL1234-: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338073136 647067 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, forall a. a -> a has one inhabitant, and forall a. a -> a -> a has 2. < 1338073154 144650 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you do a pseudo-algebraic thing like you normally do with cardinalities to figure it out? < 1338073162 443699 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> (a -> b) -> a -> b is also 2 < 1338073180 406099 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :JKL1234-: What brings you here? < 1338073196 9053 :JKL1234-!~JKL1234@71-217-43-15.tukw.qwest.net PART :#esoteric < 1338073208 471906 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a short visit. < 1338073231 18172 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, which two? < 1338073239 795283 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apply is one, obviously. < 1338073247 449103 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: There are two "a"s to apply. < 1338073260 233430 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, duh. < 1338073397 59654 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1338073402 782747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You need parametricity for that. < 1338073403 9639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can't prove it everywhere that the algebraic type law stuff applies. < 1338073403 9835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it's true in system F < 1338073403 200659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have thought of things like that too; with things like (forall x. x -> x -> x -> x -> x -> x) the cardinality is how many -> there are. And do you know what kind of function (forall x. [x] -> Maybe x) is? < 1338073443 43985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the latter could branch on length to select which element, if any, to use? < 1338073453 527844 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338073459 397120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. < 1338073468 195440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it needs to have an upper bound if you allow infinite lists < 1338073468 386123 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> a -> a is Nat < 1338073490 985253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, that is church natural numbers < 1338073612 647465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What it seems to me is that if the input and output are treated as natural numbers, then the type constrains output to be less than or equal to the input < 1338073613 907396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: for a start, you can try to construct the adt it emulates, like a -> a -> a means there are two constructors with no arguments < 1338073638 58344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> a -> a means there are two constructors, the first takes an argument of the same type < 1338073651 348148 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338073652 585862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. Succ and Zero) < 1338073707 185503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well yes that's one way of looking at it < 1338073998 104169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- google.com ping statistics --- < 1338074001 425087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 packets transmitted, 23 received, 14% packet loss, time 42327ms < 1338074001 616089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 17.485/31.434/156.107/32.597 ms < 1338074006 120076 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338074014 36900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is something wrong with this connection, right? < 1338074045 661851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, is there the other way? < 1338074107 634087 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm it seems like all stack based data manipulation cam be defined using : ; >R R@ R> BEGIN WHILE LOOP IF EPSE THEN - > < 1338074117 379043 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cab < 1338074123 377184 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can < 1338074133 785222 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in forth) < 1338074141 871563 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ELSE < 1338074155 477983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe you mean REPEAT instead of LOOP < 1338074164 576386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm again reminded that TCP can function even in cases of heavy packet loss < 1338074178 247970 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes < 1338074220 72614 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and with AND bitwise arimethrics can be implemented < 1338074241 743930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they're presumably all equivalent... < 1338074242 442456 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not very well, though < 1338074292 657854 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( : NOT 0 SWAP - 1 - ; : NAND AND NOT ; ) < 1338074293 138653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, but what would work better? < 1338074308 459257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 14% isn't as bad as it could be, it mostly just confuses slow-start and that sort of thing < 1338074352 830041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess I can see how they work : DUP >R R@ R> ; : DROP IF THEN ; < 1338074441 787985 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: actually : DROP DUP - - ; < 1338074472 863083 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: + >R 0 R> - - ; < 1338074491 979841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that works too < 1338074537 183265 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( that is how it is implemented in oonbotti's forth ) < 1338074551 520387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if you don't have 0 if you only have 1 you can still make : 0 1 1 - ; < 1338074628 604326 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually even without numbers : + >R DUP DUP - R> - - ; < 1338074805 706059 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also numbers can easily be defined with if you have 0 1+ < 1338074871 221491 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : 2DUP >R R@ OVER R> ; < 1338074888 159962 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 1 2 2DUP . . . . < 1338074888 350884 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 1 2 1 < 1338074969 751331 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : ROT >R SWAP R> SWAP ; < 1338074991 861202 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 1 2 3 ROT . . . < 1338074992 51852 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 3 2 < 1338075087 353623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1338075171 248465 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: > < NOT ; : = 2DUP > -ROT < OR ; < 1338075303 49533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338075307 450470 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth is pretty awesome because how much of it can be derived from so little < 1338075388 487854 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth is awesome because when people call it "simple" they're not lying. < 1338075461 859576 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: 0 R@ DUP - ; < 1338075471 550053 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1338075567 336346 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with that and 1+ we can define : 1 0 1+ ; < 1338075672 576640 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: 2 1 1+ ; : 3 2 1+ ; : 4 2 2 * ; : 5 4 1+ ; : 6 2 3 * ; and so on and so on < 1338075826 990267 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does strcpy(dst, src) return dst? < 1338075831 369033 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's such a useless value to return. < 1338075845 243069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no it isn't < 1338075853 565598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may well want to assign it to something < 1338075876 329235 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So assign dst to that something. < 1338075885 9729 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A much more useful value might be dst + strlen(src) < 1338075901 728881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree w/ shachaf < 1338075910 983958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :strcpy is practically broken because of that < 1338075914 791783 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or void. void would be better than always returning the first argument. :-( < 1338075945 712314 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes I agree, dst + strlen(src) would probably be better < 1338075972 507608 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quotw 195 < 1338075974 636223 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quotw: not found < 1338075976 305244 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 195 < 1338075979 98016 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :195) That is the mark of Gregor right there. tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that It's still the mark of Gregor. < 1338075991 145864 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote self < 1338075994 134543 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :43) I spent the last minute or so killing myself repeatedly \ 88) so a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.com might be self-relative, but a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com always means a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com.? \ 106) if you claim that the universe is more than 3D the burden of proof is on you to produce a klien bottle that doesn't self intersect ^ I learned that trick from atheists < 1338076043 995231 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, did quote 195 actually happen, or is HackEgo hallucinating? < 1338076063 677433 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi HackEgo < 1338076065 232679 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo < 1338076066 580559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it'd be entirely possible to produce a klein bottle that doesn't self-intersect by using time as the remaining dimension < 1338076073 575856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but might be quite mechanically awkward to create one < 1338076083 17491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it probably just run out of space on the line < 1338076100 654296 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quotificate ais523 < 1338076103 103278 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quotificate: not found < 1338076110 113638 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but my logs for freenode don't contain the phrase "mark of Gregor" except as said by HackEgo in that quote. < 1338076129 441771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you weren't there when you said it < 1338076130 412350 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try a case-insensitive search. < 1338076141 765391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ..:..:..: It's still the mark of Gregor. < 1338076256 489099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in #esoteric < 1338076259 976176 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338076262 93418 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. My logs stop three weeks before that. < 1338076266 188283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be UTC not glogbot-stupid-timezone < 1338076280 267998 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid glogbot !! < 1338076287 303777 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have a strict one-year limit on identity. < 1338076295 396068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that quote was 270 for a while < 1338076299 759923 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I have a 15-second limit! < 1338076303 650101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2010 < 1338076306 521845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's 195 nowadays < 1338076311 436786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my logs didn't capture any numbers in between < 1338076312 106892 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If something was done by someone more than one year ago, it was not done by me. < 1338076337 677644 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote tswett < 1338076338 213627 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. That's something I cannot allow to happen. < 1338076400 640139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1338076430 882271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:51 that'll be UTC not glogbot-stupid-timezone < 1338076436 627898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 glogbot's stupid timezone is UTC < 1338076437 256093 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338076523 915121 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, I dropped a few status updates here, too :) The event went fine, the voluntary exercises ran for a couple of weeks, no one really cared to do them, so I quit giving them. < 1338076558 598565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa: Aw, that's a shame. < 1338076563 38432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to hear the event went well, though. < 1338076564 513796 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, to summarise: consciousness about esolangs was heightened, there was nice participation across different universities, it was fun, and not very much else resulted. :) < 1338076579 197387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like the esolangs community in general < 1338076586 798549 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no surprise :) < 1338076653 551037 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the event was really fun. They posed a lot of good questions, both the likes of "how would you do this in Thue?" and the likes of "is there something that uses videos as source code"? < 1338076678 994952 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nooooo I got the quotes and the question mark the wrong way