< 1335830463 642282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this worm encased in lava? < 1335830467 743517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mysteries of the universe. < 1335830674 939297 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good juxtaposition < 1335830677 981438 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coqhack < 1335830777 459148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I'm (almost) dead. < 1335830780 775862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Coqrawl, actually. < 1335830878 658938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Guess who keeps dying. :( < 1335830896 848400 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it you < 1335830901 896631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1335830905 785593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That monqy. Always with the science. < 1335830906 630676 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;l watch < 1335830914 490649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must be bored. < 1335830977 428851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhh < 1335830996 912365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what's going on here. < 1335830998 729744 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that vault? < 1335830999 673077 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :honqy < 1335831008 549244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah < 1335831492 174624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335831494 314314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should put armour on < 1335831501 663209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i'm wearing chain mail < 1335831650 376252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that runed staff is < 1335831651 345597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1335831652 818773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy it's < 1335831656 522783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnarly < 1335831727 327474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh ziggurats are really scary right < 1335831749 18882 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1335831750 478251 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yeah" < 1335831756 654445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the quote mean < 1335831771 933154 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first few floors aren't that bad but if you're paying the entry fee you're aiming a bit deeper than that < 1335831773 808027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's an entry fee? never mind then < 1335831790 669885 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how mchu is the tenryf ee/ < 1335831796 829265 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW MUCH IS THE ENTRY FEE < 1335831798 603318 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it varies < 1335831837 644561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Your potion of coagulated blood rots away. < 1335831838 189399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1335831881 730337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should put fightingon sometime < 1335831885 702517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh i'll do it with uc reaches 10 < 1335832165 214784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw how much more effective is minor destruction compared to a dart < 1335832251 66019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh orc warriors always hit harder than i expect them to < 1335832302 634235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :euhh < 1335832307 640119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had more scrolls of id earlier < 1335832380 87360 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prrefer minor destruction over darts < 1335832393 899954 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey looks like you're in a jam < 1335832399 813547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im covered in jam < 1335832413 228436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can probably get away w/ scroll of tele and stairs if i can solve the immediate problem of having no hp < 1335832426 848581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the plans i can think of are < 1335832429 25813 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck not dying next turn < 1335832431 144853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) quaff a random potion < 1335832443 886523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) quaff a potion of might and hope i can wack the remaining health out of the orc warrior before they attack me < 1335832456 290703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(c) read the unid'd scroll (but i think i already know blink) < 1335832456 984074 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 5stack is probably curing if you havent ided it already, but good luck outhealing the orc warrior < 1335832463 127170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i tell what scrolls i know < 1335832465 879054 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can check \ to see < 1335832473 851006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know blinking < 1335832479 199330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so i can either quaff might or curing < 1335832491 211768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least i'd have died either way < 1335832539 957822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to get into another jam over the course of a few thousand turns < 1335832620 454856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wow the ghoul hunger system is so much less annoying than the regular one < 1335832728 448652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow jessica is < 1335832730 162304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak < 1335832777 236497 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1335832786 966717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is levitation useful for getting away from things < 1335832816 63473 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to get away from them by hovering ovver water or lava < 1335832823 57779 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, no < 1335832883 731724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1335832892 625017 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's that, sigmund? < 1335832895 596530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335832905 701443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can either whack him (my unarmed combat skill is pretty good), or quaff a random potion < 1335832910 126908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or back up (if i do that i will probably die) < 1335832916 196833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he's ^ from me < 1335832920 399971 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah he has reaching so < 1335832953 957658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that actually worked < 1335832955 69447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1335832963 285450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i just gain hp there < 1335832963 797769 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo actually, worked < 1335832970 798627 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am i behind < 1335832983 129079 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict you missed sigmund and lost hp < 1335832995 227173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought i gained hp < 1335833001 724814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost hp there < 1335833008 886970 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1335833012 839030 :ellisonch!~celliso2@chucky.cs.uiuc.edu QUIT : < 1335833014 434232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow he had a scythe of dragon slaying < 1335833016 371360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's heavy duty!!! < 1335833018 285704 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hello? < 1335833020 26865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slays dragons and stuff < 1335833020 801182 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYE ELLISONCH < 1335833023 7199 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: scythes are bad < 1335833029 124534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not if they slay dragons!!! < 1335833030 149005 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally I can tabcomplete uninterrupted < 1335833044 604829 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:43:28 < shachaf> monqy: hi < 1335833046 167474 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You're the only person with a nick starting with 'e' in here. < 1335833048 267074 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you have something to say < 1335833053 716535 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's egobot < 1335833054 256798 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes < 1335833063 159549 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i had to say "hi" < 1335833065 289324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335833067 72920 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i say it yet/ < 1335833073 451056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335833094 793613 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1335833098 461538 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1335833105 295622 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi" < 1335833135 701592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1335833186 560272 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did youe die < 1335833188 877016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335833190 404865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got teleportitis < 1335833193 375131 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rip elliott" < 1335833198 24929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1335833206 117054 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon ripe. soon rotten. soon gone. but not forgotten. < 1335833210 234104 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachafe you kiled him < 1335833217 525370 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh no < 1335833223 339970 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed him with your < 1335833223 496130 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rip elliott" II < 1335833223 984562 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :words < 1335833648 910388 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335833686 426162 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hlepe elliott put me on /ignore < 1335833694 265151 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry elliott :'( < 1335833753 845856 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335833865 534307 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hecked < 1335833888 594483 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Headlines for tomorrow's newspaper. < 1335833891 660974 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHACHAF: HECKED < 1335833899 774532 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your aim cud be next < 1335834003 751461 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Aim could Be next < 1335834020 951076 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like elliott's Even very much. < 1335834025 479263 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that make me wrong? < 1335834078 179514 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1335834080 351489 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm wrong. < 1335837002 201823 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335837067 218096 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-204-187.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1335837536 426608 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335837856 248861 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335839062 58465 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1335840807 68819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335840816 562830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1335840818 186483 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Mon Apr 30 19:53:37 2012 < 1335840832 104927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the monkey's hour of hibernation < 1335840834 412280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1335840893 124724 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i set up my time zone with lb? < 1335841397 528549 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335841407 276328 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335841754 41728 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335841757 761236 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1335841766 61424 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^whois < 1335841766 79579 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You is. < 1335841769 142449 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335841779 715120 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^who < 1335841790 495612 :PiRSquared17!~chatzilla@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335841809 363679 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen hi < 1335841826 506948 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bots < 1335841826 688267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1335841832 258661 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bot < 1335841838 533867 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bots < 1335841842 777197 :PiRSquared17!~chatzilla@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi < 1335841843 313357 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :PiRSquared17: eos end of stack ( xd). a common fnord medication to remove the fnord... < 1335841845 694969 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^list < 1335841854 723657 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1335841854 898447 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1335841867 882731 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bots < 1335841870 446014 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bots: not found < 1335841874 853830 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1335841876 947043 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1335841913 77671 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run set hi=me & echo %hi& < 1335841915 945798 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​%hi < 1335841933 626533 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run set hi=me & echo %hi% < 1335841936 811030 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​%hi% < 1335841951 533506 :japh!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1335841954 826361 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $hi < 1335841957 631059 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1335841973 517331 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run set hi=me echo $hi < 1335841975 660873 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1335841998 478931 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run set hi=me & echo $hi < 1335842001 691054 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1335842016 847202 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run print "hi" < 1335842020 366122 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: unknown mime-type for "hi" -- using "application/octet-stream" \ Error: no such file "hi" < 1335842035 588265 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ruby < 1335842038 488914 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: ruby: command not found < 1335842059 416675 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $name < 1335842061 834137 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1335842076 805019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335842090 477258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, stop fucking with the bots like that or you'll get on their ignore list. < 1335842102 43515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo and fungot both respond to private messages < 1335842102 799060 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i find postfix-colon keywords significantly harder to read.... and the stack overflow. < 1335842121 316978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you don't have to < 1335842122 301135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time quintopia < 1335842124 604689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for quintopia is Mon Apr 30 23:15:23 2012 < 1335842154 821648 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :e how does it knoooooow < 1335842200 458145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalking < 1335842213 771311 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my time zone hardcoded in there? < 1335842224 391019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's part of the lambdabot source code < 1335842226 821074 :PiRSquared17!~chatzilla@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: CTCP time requests probably < 1335842232 717218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335842233 660759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardcoded < 1335842236 591194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :into lambdabot's source code < 1335842237 302083 :PiRSquared17!~chatzilla@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1335842248 331669 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335842251 788223 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did get one of those < 1335842252 478804 :PiRSquared17!~chatzilla@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's creepy < 1335842252 692705 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335842258 147714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it does that but < 1335842259 819781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ignores the result < 1335842263 438040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just uses the hardcoded timezone instead < 1335842675 140064 :PiRSquared17!~chatzilla@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ lies < 1335842767 694414 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.3.7 QUIT :Quit: R.I.P < 1335842794 898110 :PiRSquared17!~chatzilla@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time test1_2_3 < 1335842795 784891 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for test1_2_3 is I just set some random TIME result < 1335842857 145367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it predicted you were going to do that < 1335842862 140298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too smart for you < 1335842866 301475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't fool lambdabot < 1335843145 930919 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.151.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335843442 49310 :shubshub2!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1335843542 557601 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.151.185 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1335843703 175649 :shubshub2!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1335843799 332566 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1335844124 901639 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh, a 200 line C library is not "trivial" < 1335844132 706645 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be simple or straightforward < 1335844276 964904 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it could actually be trivial. < 1335844286 279418 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that's unlikely. < 1335844304 624821 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines a 180 line switch statement that does not-much < 1335844304 846294 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if it's all obviously dead code < 1335844315 701259 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean 200 source lines, not incl comments and whitespace) < 1335844315 958716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"trivial" just means "easy" now < 1335844325 327267 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: or "possible" < 1335844326 82299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidence: people say "extremely trivial" < 1335844330 115733 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i rage against this usage < 1335844331 291968 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, effectively a lookup table. < 1335844331 505712 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rage so hard < 1335844334 649630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1335844335 803955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too late < 1335844344 394437 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say even a 200 line lookup table is probably actually trivial. < 1335844348 601223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rage against "raging so hard" against something :p < 1335844353 18887 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I'm not sure I would even call that trivial < 1335844353 652589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*rage so hard < 1335844365 641110 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me "trivial" means not only simple and straightforward, but so simple there is almost nothing to say about it < 1335844385 216019 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 200 line lookup table / switch statement is probably not devoid of implementation details < 1335844397 877431 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway there's no absolute cutoff < 1335844483 436093 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm extremely skeptical of a claim that any 200 lines of C is trivial < 1335844586 541078 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the particular code I'm talking about is signal-aware multiplatform event-based UNIX IO code < 1335844604 614802 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... That seems quite nontrivial. < 1335844610 740948 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have to think about it! < 1335845888 302268 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1335846115 180660 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1335846339 13028 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335848777 86292 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335848788 27812 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335849225 157743 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1335849225 269645 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Quit: R.I.P < 1335849225 461349 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1335849278 9076 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1335850433 160655 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1335850993 490859 :cheater__!~cheater@g231039081.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1335851027 144680 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need help < 1335851997 829265 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck and underload. Nice, ne < 1335852076 362898 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((LOOK AROUND YOU )S:^):^ < 1335852076 538744 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK ...too much output! < 1335852123 923042 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good series. < 1335852136 663184 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need help < 1335852145 758431 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (*)(~(*)*:S~(:)S:^):^ < 1335852145 935154 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :**:***:****:*****:******:*******:********:*********:**********:***********:************:*************:**************:***************:****************:*****************:******************:*******************:********************:*********************:**********************:***********************:************************:** ...too much output! < 1335852152 810206 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (*):S(~(*)*:S~(:)S:^):^ < 1335852152 828635 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :what variable does egobot use when doing userinterps < 1335852152 987135 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :***:***:****:*****:******:*******:********:*********:**********:***********:************:*************:**************:***************:****************:*****************:******************:*******************:********************:*********************:**********************:***********************:************************:* ...too much output! < 1335852159 266689 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm? < 1335852160 575547 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1335852170 444534 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1335852182 140596 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (*)(~:(:)*S(*)*~:^):^ < 1335852182 178466 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:**:***:****:*****:******:*******:********:*********:**********:***********:************:*************:**************:***************:****************:*****************:******************:*******************:********************:*********************:**********************:***********************:************************: ...too much output! < 1335852221 166239 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335852499 484004 :cheater!~cheater@g231039081.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335852808 51096 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wormsong 2011 sucks < 1335852808 478257 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (~:(:)*S(*)*~:^)::^ < 1335852808 656234 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~:(:)*S(*)*~:^:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^*:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^**:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^***:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^****:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^*****:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^******:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^*******:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^********:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^*********:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^**********:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^***********:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^************:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^*************:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^********* ...too much output! < 1335852809 359019 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335852812 341018 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shot < 1335852887 909748 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def blah < 1335852888 87492 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def < 1335852903 849034 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def inc bf ,[+.,] < 1335852904 25772 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1335852907 195098 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^inc abc < 1335852907 213421 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bcd < 1335852935 323741 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^inc a < 1335852935 341902 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1335852964 883197 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def test ul S < 1335852964 901297 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1335852967 27246 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test test < 1335852967 202138 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of stack! < 1335852974 454371 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does underload not have input? < 1335852984 381447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335853133 651992 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, can't start out the stack with (:(a)a~*^:(b)a~*^:(c)a~*^(d)a~*^) or something? < 1335853138 972373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1335853143 229561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not input though :) < 1335853144 672023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's code < 1335853175 593190 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^command argument -> (~:(a)a~*^:(r)a~*^:(g)a~*^:(u)a~*^:(m)a~*^:(e)a~*^:(n)a~*^(t)a~*^) < 1335853206 251861 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, (:(a)a~*^:(r)a~*^:(g)a~*^:(u)a~*^:(m)a~*^:(e)a~*^:(n)a~*^(t)a~*^) < 1335853224 812485 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, you could do ^def echo ul (S)~^ < 1335853257 122326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's an input scheme < 1335853470 290962 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def echo ul (S)~^ < 1335853470 466943 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1335853476 331965 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo hi < 1335853476 350412 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of stack! < 1335853479 579715 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335853557 805228 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, which graphics thingy, if any? < 1335853563 450326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1335853565 445450 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of Mayday's, Phoebus, and Ironhand? < 1335853566 745399 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For DF < 1335853572 720476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :glyphs < 1335853577 407983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335853577 708992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :df < 1335853580 960576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :still glyphs < 1335853582 337525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the defaults < 1335853587 41143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the tilesets are < 1335853588 136225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) hideous < 1335853589 34590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1335853592 614773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) mess up all the text and make it super hideous < 1335853616 580682 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is egobot not on this channel anymore? < 1335853623 507864 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1335853623 679514 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? < 1335853630 83065 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1335853640 529678 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show prefixes < 1335853640 707057 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?)S < 1335853651 142708 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't ">" also a lambdabot prefix? < 1335853660 422982 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :>help < 1335853676 840660 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Hi. This is Haskell" < 1335853677 732228 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Hi. This is Haskell" < 1335853679 464353 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :^userinterps < 1335853679 885689 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2 = 5 in 2+2 < 1335853681 109735 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1335853693 713411 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :>"Hello" < 1335853698 50391 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t () < 1335853699 328771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :() < 1335853704 882393 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::hi < 1335853718 794537 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :t is a specific command < 1335853720 95594 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5."this is haskell" < 1335853720 900145 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is > < 1335853722 13218 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5] < 1335853724 523950 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 1+1 = window in 1+1 < 1335853725 404553 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `window' < 1335853725 630729 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2 = text "This isn't kindergarten, is it" in 2+2 < 1335853726 552717 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : This isn't kindergarten, is it < 1335853734 790024 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname++ < 1335853763 629821 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 2+2 < 1335853764 946414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1335853765 734082 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type () < 1335853766 879317 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :() < 1335853813 767533 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I am currently: Being stupid and reinstalling DF < 1335853818 460300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1335853818 541112 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm lazy < 1335853848 968270 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does sh accept input? < 1335853866 286331 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type /me hi < 1335853867 166457 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `/' < 1335853875 793300 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type //me hi < 1335853876 654223 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `//' < 1335853887 871127 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, @type gives the type of a Haskell expression < 1335853890 341878 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type "Hello" < 1335853891 222904 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Char] < 1335853897 986859 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type '!' < 1335853898 865788 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Char < 1335853901 6872 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does SH ACCEPT INPUT? < 1335853913 271946 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does sh Accept INPUT < 1335853922 977402 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me < 1335853930 894459 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what your question means < 1335853944 367029 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does the sh language accept input < 1335853949 810411 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean unix shell script? < 1335853954 635807 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run read $blah; echo $blah < 1335853955 331063 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1335853957 503551 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1335853959 117063 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :input of what kind? < 1335853966 841733 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get command line arguments as variables $1, $2, etc < 1335853971 256326 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can read lines from stdin with 'read' < 1335853971 775619 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $blah < 1335853975 85314 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1335853977 939411 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also read a book or web page about shell programmin < 1335853988 325205 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1335853994 581310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could just ask all your questions on irc and have people promote the behaviour by answer them < 1335854005 134530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if they give a token recommendation to act differently afterwards < 1335854005 245920 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335854009 323147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*answering < 1335854127 535396 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think I was anticipating the reinstall wiping the texture thing I installed. It did not < 1335854134 787051 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does sh accept input from egobot? < 1335854141 11431 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :which variable is it < 1335854154 180969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the linux version its just in one convenient directory < 1335854155 855002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -r it and it's done < 1335854157 390749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1335854168 563435 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r < 1335854171 364071 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: missing operand \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1335854193 820031 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /j #ssoteric < 1335854197 163746 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /j: No such file or directory < 1335854200 369630 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335854215 208650 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $I < 1335854217 211536 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1335854231 270209 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I make it output the source? < 1335854255 773733 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to refrain from profanity and insults < 1335854283 67156 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is can ban now? < 1335854284 175525 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :because im tryimg to add an interp to egobot but i dont < 1335854293 319014 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :knoknow how to make it read the input < 1335854317 417891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should not add an interp to egobot then < 1335854330 367134 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I want to < 1335854332 411216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys realise that he goes away if you don't talk to him right < 1335854346 295489 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I dont < 1335854355 561009 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just get frustrated < 1335854374 842218 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why won't someone just help me? < 1335854381 50648 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: go read up on shell programming and come back when you've written the thing. we can't possibly give you all the info you need here. < 1335854411 724188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think this has gone on long enough to adequately demonstrate he's not interested in changing his behaviour < 1335854420 62965 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... *facepalm* Your not understanding what Im saying < 1335854434 447110 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335854438 9305 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, the best help we can give you is to tell you to at least try to learn on your own < 1335854446 257804 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sorry, i wasn't here to see it going on < 1335854485 927933 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read up on stuff. If you're reading, and have questions about what you're reading, then sure, ask < 1335854493 113244 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at least get started independently < 1335854502 979334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often does #esoteric get employed in the service of teaching someone how to learn < 1335854552 799397 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to know how to get the input ive read everywhere and it wont tell me < 1335854682 503940 :japh!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335854705 315534 :japh!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrote a javascript dcpu-16 emulator, working on compiler < 1335854712 443158 :japh!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assembler* < 1335854756 999690 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1335854840 370223 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :japh: are you just another perl hacker < 1335854889 245861 :japh!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perlmonk at your service < 1335854999 627849 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just murdered two dwarves in the Object Testing arena < 1335855011 905074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just another poison hacker < 1335855049 791160 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :japh: not http://perl.plover.com/obfuscated/ this guy? < 1335855160 493705 :japh!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'm this guy http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=140353 < 1335855207 15863 :japh!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=139703 < 1335855266 53473 :japh!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=135354 < 1335855275 490783 :japh!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was a nerd before it was cool < 1335855312 630971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was cool before it was a nerd. :( < 1335855924 65300 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there there.. theres some possibility you can become cool again < 1335856110 295290 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could vie for gregor-style cool < 1335856143 682371 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :running the esolang wiki must increase your cool points < 1335856210 670302 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slowly realizes that the words wiki, vie, -style, points are all not cool < 1335856237 459352 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the word cool isn't cool, as the simpsons explained < 1335856380 925250 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: you're supposed to say "awesome" these days < 1335856383 81269 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you get the memo < 1335856417 984734 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well put. < 1335856616 879573 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also be sure to refer to any technical problem as "trivial" < 1335856673 695189 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=)) < 1335856710 612237 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... regular use of the term non-trivial in non-mathematical contexts < 1335857316 26350 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335857386 484145 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335857481 53692 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caption "Gary decided that escaping this gathering of his relatives to catch the game would be non-trivial." < 1335857569 696734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1335857571 751886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Tue May 1 00:32:50 2012 < 1335857578 220440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy 00:32:50 < 1335857581 974716 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im real tired i suhloudl slep < 1335857613 67890 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but im too busy dragging myself throguh test.fk deespite being perhaps too tired to get anything out of it < 1335857623 639170 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: instad ot slep ing try noten seleeping!! < 1335857625 868642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.fk is the best "test.fk + elliott crawl literally the best funjoyment possible" < 1335857683 240692 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whats even bettere than test.fk" "going to sleepe" < 1335857748 369499 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, it's definitely end of the semester. < 1335857769 915514 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm procrastinating on nearly everything. < 1335857797 685925 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially sleep. < 1335857868 935752 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the only thing you we have to procrastinate on is procrastination itself" < 1335857899 656191 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : - monqy the grammaphone < 1335857902 103043 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earlier this week I went to sleep at 6. < 1335857906 646778 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammaphone = phone that gramma talks into < 1335857907 317969 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was delightful. < 1335857917 939530 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: "which 6" < 1335857922 542223 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:00 < 1335857932 718134 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the real one" < 1335857937 591269 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1335857953 334406 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: When are you coming to visit monqy and me in CA? < 1335857969 526884 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If I have sufficient funds to do so? < 1335857997 116586 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid that college is nontrivial in cost. < 1335858005 601082 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And CA is nontrivial in distance. < 1335858012 694886 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to college inc alifroniaa < 1335858019 115169 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem = sloved < 1335858057 859048 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, sure, I only need to go through 4 states... < 1335858073 860195 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's still ~1,000 miles. < 1335858118 41860 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anger, hate, misery, apathy, what was the other one? < 1335858128 683568 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the dark side a state? I don't remember this at all. < 1335858133 254460 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that it ends in apathy. < 1335858150 152296 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amusing driving directions, though. < 1335858174 597941 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Get on I-70. After 500 miles, keep left at the fork." < 1335858191 178554 :cheater!~cheater@g231039081.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335858193 989709 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't you in Colorado or something? < 1335858197 13490 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1335858203 827614 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mere 1,000 miles away. < 1335858224 750409 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(~1600 kilometers) < 1335858368 918885 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specifically, Colorado Springs, CO.) < 1335858386 852905 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thats like "double colorado"" < 1335858418 785248 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also astoundingly conservative. < 1335858443 615357 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"colorado springs, the worst garbage collector :'(" < 1335858450 484163 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1335858501 743781 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There ought to be a liberal garbage collector that randomly collects any ol' memory. < 1335858518 851732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :liberal garbage collector: fox news < 1335858522 118795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1335858528 70862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a liberal garbage collector would be one that collects liberal garbage < 1335858530 297159 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I'll eventually end up moving to CA, though. Or at an absolute minimum Denver... < 1335858533 365655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it's more daily kos < 1335858540 906618 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Living near Fox's viewer base is a bit disturbing. < 1335858569 244731 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: How did you end up in Colawhatever sSPRIngs, Coalhrwla/>/ < 1335858587 681394 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was born here. < 1335858596 40731 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad watches Fox News. I pretty much have to listen < 1335858596 205750 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1335858602 319741 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1335858606 211947 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why are you going to college there too? < 1335858612 829112 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@remember monqy hello < 1335858613 463702 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is forever etched in my memory. < 1335858620 69424 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a cheap bastard. < 1335858641 546876 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@remember shubshub < 1335858641 726548 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incorrect arguments to quote < 1335858646 507017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Isn't diving great? < 1335858650 101152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@forget monqy hello < 1335858650 721235 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match. < 1335858660 883550 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335858661 798789 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@remember shubshub !!!Batch < 1335858661 975108 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1335858667 564457 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Diving? < 1335858667 723226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Ngevd, watch me play crawl < 1335858667 930026 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear < 1335858669 866706 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just made a Reffit account < 1335858671 811171 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1335858675 925515 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ff/dd/ < 1335858677 338307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You know, in Crawl. < 1335858680 289200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Don't. It's waful. < 1335858681 954527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not kidding. < 1335858687 203926 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that like Digging For Victory? < 1335858687 495182 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO LATE < 1335858690 810682 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except just diving? < 1335858693 396890 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm using Windows < 1335858696 486901 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for losery instead of victory? < 1335858711 126678 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I've got Putty < 1335858713 882235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: More or less. < 1335858721 916544 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which server? < 1335858728 935128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl.develz.org port 345 < 1335858751 670274 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watching < 1335858765 164826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"agen" < 1335858768 818761 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl.develz? MORE LIKE CRUELLA DE VIL < 1335858771 940018 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIGHT???? < 1335858773 98449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you have to q and rewatch) < 1335858831 887410 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Money grows on trees in California. < 1335858841 684650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that explains y combinator < 1335858857 864027 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :y money = money (y money) < 1335858864 796429 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWIST: s/e/q/g < 1335858866 765491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows why money < 1335858878 208916 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Unless you're a college student, in which case you have net negative income. < 1335858883 107542 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only monqy was here to see my twist :"( < 1335858888 643036 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a college graduate... < 1335858894 253029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why are you making stupid jokes when you could be watching me play crawl < 1335858923 410798 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: No, it literally grows on trees. < 1335858928 150908 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the form of ORANGES < 1335858933 804771 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know orange = monqy < 1335858939 455591 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/q/e/g < 1335858943 920932 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1335858944 867561 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orangq = monqy < 1335858950 192670 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :netacraft ocnfirms it < 1335858951 145287 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that college costs all the money? < 1335858963 194515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently im running from edmund and two jackals < 1335858965 305867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh by two i mean < 1335858966 62145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch < 1335858967 97506 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did, as a matter of fact. :-( < 1335858975 537118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually currently i'm dead < 1335858983 163784 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how elliott coutns, ep. 1:::::" < 1335858985 679274 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1" < 1335858988 814943 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was born in the wrong damned country. < 1335858989 620294 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how elliott coutns, ep. a bunch:::::" < 1335858991 709159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1335858991 732873 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a bunch" < 1335859033 736679 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Country where people can't even pronounce my name. Bastards. < 1335859096 332306 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your name? < 1335859105 867913 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worcester. < 1335859139 844041 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good name < 1335859157 966143 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to get more English than a name like that. < 1335859168 607737 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose my first name could be something like "Gareth" or "Nigel" though. < 1335859200 854004 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: is heh.fi your wbeistee < 1335859555 985612 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gareth is one of those names that doesn't have a feminine counterpart < 1335859629 564748 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :do /msg egobot !!!Batch < 1335859763 805202 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Are you in college in the summer? You should come to CA then! < 1335859768 888550 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the logical thing to do. < 1335859869 712030 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Would still need money to go to CA. < 1335859882 359004 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aside from that factor, though, totally awesome. < 1335859884 623044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335859890 81035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Are you watching this? < 1335859934 903055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmfao < 1335859946 576617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You have to see this. < 1335860006 167107 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, I stopped. < 1335860014 221536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 5 centaurs. < 1335860016 687790 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi centaurs < 1335860025 152841 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :youe diede < 1335860163 945759 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What a great game! < 1335860169 383399 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Are ou playing SpVM? < 1335860173 368256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spas < 1335860185 271131 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what dodes' "As'" standa for < 1335860188 555714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :assassin < 1335860210 939860 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do they do? < 1335860215 654293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :assassinate < 1335860220 109615 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : assassinate < 1335860222 366222 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA HA < 1335860227 701712 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW FUNNY < 1335860243 490104 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, latency, for spoiling my humouur < 1335860536 482786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335861144 382603 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1335861789 728860 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1335861803 281285 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1335861805 254494 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FDA is legally barred from banning tobacco. < 1335861836 645555 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an actual law on the books saying tobacco, and tobacco alone, cannot be banned due to being unsafe. < 1335861852 142582 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335861946 648928 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cannot be banned) due to (being unsafe) < 1335862728 826160 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :./msg egobot !!!Batch abc < 1335862913 701390 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why isnt egobot in this channel anymore? < 1335862961 252189 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask fizzie why isnt egobot in this channel anymore? < 1335862961 601793 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335863002 648286 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask lambdabot hi < 1335863003 2055 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1335863013 337935 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot hi < 1335863013 694202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1335863071 258884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't ask me, it's not my bot. < 1335863071 603920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1335863078 837101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1335863079 210210 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1335863098 558000 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie yay < 1335863104 705694 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1335863109 720307 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose bot is it < 1335863131 865176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor's. < 1335863152 539696 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Gregor why isnt egobot in this channel anymore? < 1335863152 712445 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335863200 928920 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I Make my own bot? < 1335863240 338519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a free node. < 1335863248 166103 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean < 1335863258 920212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just punning. < 1335863264 81284 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335863276 626070 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill Make My Bot And Call It S-Bot < 1335863331 25470 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It Will Be Ablle to Interpret My Own Languages < 1335863395 315583 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: your programming language or the languah < 1335863402 776946 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*language you speak < 1335863413 859384 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming Languages < 1335863432 688682 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some other stuff < 1335863479 574435 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Have you considered the RACE CONDITION involved in using @clear-messages??!!!?!/!?! < 1335863667 378551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Now I have. < 1335863668 484893 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :do /msg egobot !!!Batch hi < 1335863791 579827 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg egobot !!!Batch hi < 1335863815 157063 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :one less space < 1335863820 746112 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335863848 317881 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg egobot !!!Batchhi < 1335863897 825460 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: ?!!!!!!!!??!!!!!!!!!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? < 1335863905 849147 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335863916 103502 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what the other one is on the end < 1335863955 393961 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1335864020 948768 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1335864025 700154 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUNGOT LEFT < 1335864511 396768 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti it works but not great < 1335864809 448221 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whens fungot comin back? < 1335864862 581371 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm now which language supports Online Capabolities < 1335864901 332964 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Underload? < 1335865467 569656 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: almost none of the esoteric languages support any kind of networking < 1335865518 746603 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335865519 301116 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge does < 1335865590 8375 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :BrainFuck++ does I think < 1335865701 982319 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i get a confirm on that? < 1335865711 319442 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does brainfuck++ support networking? < 1335865753 753351 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask HackEgo hi < 1335865753 931345 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335865761 443616 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi < 1335865764 375149 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335865764 966695 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1335865772 138203 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335865791 626187 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo @karma < 1335865794 381852 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@karma < 1335865835 477091 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runecho hi < 1335865836 18085 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1335865837 750029 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: runecho: not found < 1335865852 706636 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335865867 428240 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo @karma < 1335865870 76230 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@karma < 1335865883 864120 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo @karma < 1335865886 627327 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@karma < 1335865919 482 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `echo hi < 1335865921 806153 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`echo hi < 1335865932 754567 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1335865935 424664 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335866008 891807 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1335866224 447305 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL! < 1335866232 60471 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :i crashed lambdabot < 1335866239 885897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1335866255 605717 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma < 1335866259 943589 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of -1 < 1335866310 484996 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any PSOX-capable esolang + PSOX supports networking < 1335866369 702099 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm? < 1335866401 125167 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/PSOX < 1335866426 639234 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not currently in a usable state. I abandoned it years ago, the copy in SVN is broken, no one supports it < 1335866457 98137 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't use it < 1335866461 727657 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why < 1335866493 592548 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I "might" be able to make it worm < 1335866523 316707 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :work* < 1335866541 229614 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :`' < 1335866544 14771 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ': not found < 1335866548 95751 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The support for files is broken < 1335866550 541130 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one < 1335866557 701311 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there are no plans whatsoever to fix that < 1335866563 904227 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Language is it written in? < 1335866564 973197 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Networking support should be good though < 1335866572 62631 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python. < 1335866583 816698 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://trac.assembla.com/psox/browser/trunk have fun < 1335866585 753434 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill fix it easy < 1335866595 49496 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is an easy fix < 1335866605 4116 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know exactly what needs to be fixed, actually. Just never did it < 1335866612 425678 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then do it < 1335866617 739207 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ignore the README.txt < 1335866620 236830 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it a working language < 1335866627 687894 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, it's not a language < 1335866632 954048 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1335866638 86943 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1335866668 3689 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a thing that goes between a program written in a language and stdio < 1335866678 203666 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1335866691 90756 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that if you're running a Brainfuck interpreter under it, the brainfuck code can do things like networking stuff < 1335866704 350090 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is actually now thinking of making a Networking language now ^_^ < 1335866781 812639 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill call it NetCMD++ < 1335866792 4260 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub, problems with PSOX: It's too elaborate and really only good with Brainfuck and similar languages < 1335866821 459267 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill make this lang in python to give its own networking ^_^ < 1335866955 70361 :cheater!~cheater@g231039081.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335866982 507105 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetCMD++ I LIKE THAT NAME :D < 1335867224 760119 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetCMD++ < 1335867454 41599 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah < 1335867732 484073 :cheater!~cheater@g230226101.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335867948 715573 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: FSVO wbeistee < 1335868182 250638 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-82-247.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Quit: R.I.P < 1335869074 767585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335870834 791494 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-149-220.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335870850 430058 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-210-237.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1335871908 46334 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335871945 805017 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1335873387 56108 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335874472 982593 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335874487 936046 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1335874512 893651 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335874997 730661 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, Phantom_Hoover < 1335875010 302751 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlo < 1335875028 240443 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How're you? < 1335875613 719331 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1335875922 57806 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-156-93.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335877868 280257 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1335878528 122059 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-140-115.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1335880389 334593 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335880430 684940 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335881155 448363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1335883725 64306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335884655 492191 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133449.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335884770 184506 :cheater!~cheater@g230226101.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1335884824 570153 :cheater!~cheater@g230226101.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335885487 379279 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335887604 98277 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335887617 246954 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1335887634 7298 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1335887776 125706 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335888280 652412 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335888288 573333 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, I am: fine < 1335888292 852962 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is your: DF < 1335888354 710638 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing well < 1335888368 642216 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't realise how RIDICULOUSLY FAST a good danger room is < 1335888396 840297 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1335888414 861963 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1335888422 771014 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Competent to Legendary in seconds < 1335888435 145544 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't you there when I was using DRs to go from no military to siegebreaking /during the siege/? < 1335888442 395219 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1335888445 919412 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just after that < 1335888472 384908 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly those all went awry for various reasons, mainly due to scrimping. < 1335888500 304607 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1335888547 416535 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, optimal DRing requires that you first get them up to legendary armour user by not equipping them with shields or weapons, then giving them their weapon until they become legendary in that, then finally giving them a shield and polishing it off with legendary shield user. < 1335888582 781721 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The armour stage takes ages, but it increases their survivability a hell of a lot. < 1335888588 778498 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Armour first? damn < 1335888618 340782 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's a single dwarf ruined forever < 1335888656 682458 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, just remove their shield and weapon in the equipment skills then top off armour. < 1335888678 730557 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay! < 1335888691 21697 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do that when I next go on < 1335888718 943310 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shield precludes weapon precludes armour, basically; the slower skills will basically grind to a halt. < 1335888759 648680 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's easy < 1335888760 806386 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1335888773 843613 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, mister Danger Room Hoover of Old Edinburgh Town < 1335888790 450473 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I've only ever lived in the New Town. < 1335888832 25040 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, mister Danger Room Hoover of New Edinburgh Town < 1335888849 594123 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. I have succesfully buit busybox and musl using my own package manager < 1335888853 268740 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better -_- < 1335888864 63547 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, Yay < 1335888888 65084 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, you should talk to elliott, he once made a package manager. < 1335888909 600871 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: source based or binary based? < 1335888911 206977 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's never used, of course, but who cares. < 1335888941 642328 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It basically just automated ./configure; make; make install with some additional bells and whistles AFAIK. < 1335888994 420735 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: My package manager supports syncing with repo, installing and uninstalling and has builtin dependecy resolver < 1335889053 645194 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(source based) < 1335889112 497092 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that elliott is probably going to yell at me because I described it completely wrongly, but now I totally have the drop on him because if he does he'll be dancing from my puppeteer's strings. < 1335889330 653855 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: did it work with progams that want to be compiled by make defconfig; make? < 1335889343 855034 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, ask him? < 1335889425 498856 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott did your package manager work with programs that want to be compiled by make defconfig; make < 1335889426 238024 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335889475 265344 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask HackEgo `date < 1335889475 883731 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335889486 126400 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uname -a < 1335889491 985451 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.0.8-umlbox #2 Sun Nov 13 21:30:28 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1335889492 657915 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1335889509 766724 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo @messages < 1335889512 522510 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@messages < 1335889594 31491 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-149-220.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1335889596 315248 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nortti < 1335889599 414857 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1335889613 776022 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot ignores HE these days. < 1335889625 22110 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed < 1335889640 795546 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1335889643 909245 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not actually Ngevd, no matter what you may have heard. < 1335889647 810939 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1335889650 705848 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+'.km.pԁ* \ 'ؒ.~(.$ls&y].CEj6)WaN..=ʵ%f.M.bͦeD4m0.&R..L{Noͳ[ʈ.7Kyv.$ppD \ })\0#hG0(T'.E1.cr5t=Z.V|......ߴl!¾.)_ i|IZf%k9$}:Tע\wHZq8 GXV'oF*ضhYL.ijŭB,z_9I < 1335889658 657676 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : lambdabot ignores HE these days. // why? It shouldn't be possible to botloop ... < 1335889658 833530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1335889662 543517 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1335889662 895524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub asked 7h 21m 46s ago: why isnt egobot in this channel anymore? < 1335889670 512248 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because fail. < 1335889687 847280 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I think it is trying to say that you are random < 1335889704 585623 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-182.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335889713 495196 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pikhq < 1335889713 731505 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where fizzie < 1335889713 875871 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about fizzie. < 1335889716 280477 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1335889718 108531 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1335889719 695809 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where oklopol < 1335889719 874010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about oklopol. < 1335889726 437827 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one. < 1335889742 816348 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you need to add specific ignores to bots to prevent bot loops, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. Following the RFC properly, bot loops can simply never happen. < 1335889756 443317 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1335889761 379614 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which RFC? < 1335889763 269871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: but everyone makes bots reply in privmsg rather than notice, partly due to mirc not following the standards, as usual < 1335889774 639509 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1335889775 168731 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly because notice looks fucking terrible in every client. < 1335889786 813479 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NOTICE #esoteric :Oh god no. < 1335889791 260817 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NOTICE #esoteric :This is not acceptable. < 1335889792 143733 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yep, following the RFC makes mIRC users use more effort to crying than it would take to uncheck the “GIVE ME AN ELECTRIC SHOCK WHENEVER BOTS SPEAK” checkbox. :-) < 1335889796 730907 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eurgh. < 1335889825 120276 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NOTICE #esoteric :Find me ONE client in which this doesn't look completely fucking awful, ion. Seriously, one client. < 1335889826 5482 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s also annoying when bot messages look like human discussion, so you can’t skip them as easily. < 1335889841 352193 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ve been using Irssi and WeeChat and they look fine in them. < 1335889858 429789 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it looks terrible in irssi < 1335889870 509598 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NOTICE #esoteric :Note that the left column is now crazy wide. < 1335889887 798808 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NOTICE #esoteric :You make the left column crazy wide anyway, Phantom_Hoover ;) < 1335889889 741132 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no left colum :p < 1335889896 438453 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are bad. < 1335889918 211465 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why? < 1335889952 72641 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the messages should all be left-aligned to the same place. < 1335889959 579521 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why < 1335890003 758810 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Anyway, I avoid botloops with Unicode, which works great and looks great in virtually all clients. < 1335890005 893405 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they form one continuous record of text; they shouldn't be jumbled up by additional information. < 1335890012 948216 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: And you will complain about for some reason or another. < 1335890255 533119 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I use length on nick to quickly differentiate between nicks < 1335890293 348272 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of < 1335890296 584988 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use grammar, punctuation and spelling to do the same. < 1335890304 882222 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realise that you can still do that if it's centre-aligned. < 1335890377 468551 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well actually I just look at the text and if indentation changes I know that it is another nicl < 1335890384 494071 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nick < 1335890438 437101 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile I look at the text and get a rough idea of the nick from how long it is. < 1335890566 20052 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1335890592 698189 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: http://qdb.us/44843 < 1335890963 165765 :PiRSquared17!~chatzilla@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335891346 580206 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, update? < 1335891422 369989 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1335891457 603759 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the update thing! < 1335891913 284281 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't it a while ago though? < 1335891939 616094 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not < 1335891959 372423 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, if you haven't seen update, update etc. < 1335892059 807053 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8921A.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335893654 942084 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1335894202 845645 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335894549 762382 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133449.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1335895200 632178 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-141-25.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335895551 154392 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335895955 430513 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1335896019 28789 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335896404 866896 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1335896438 284002 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335897302 523368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335897830 282907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo test < 1335897830 459306 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1335897832 856759 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1335897847 87792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:44 nortti asked 2h 20m 8s ago: did your package manager work with programs that want to be compiled by make defconfig; make < 1335897851 364601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask nortti What package manager? < 1335897851 687684 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335897877 207989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:26:53: lambdabot ignores HE these days. < 1335897884 272431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover False. < 1335897884 443452 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335897904 383189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:29:35: Mostly because notice looks fucking terrible in every client. < 1335897905 87297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1335897910 914317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: They're hideous in every client, not just mIRC. < 1335897977 782953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I brought up mIRC as an example, because not just is it hideous, it also causes a ping < 1335897979 547047 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, user-to-user notices look fine, it's just channel notices that look awful. But it's the fact that user notices look fine that forces channel notices to look awful, so yeah. < 1335897986 781940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, channel notices ping all mIRC users in them < 1335898005 838996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, preventing botloops is evil < 1335898010 958179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the RFC is evil for trying to prevent them < 1335898018 15453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Gregor needs to make HackEgo say @messages < 1335898086 205677 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335898098 56863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does it add invisible characters if someone else tries? < 1335898103 342750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo @messages < 1335898104 262105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1335898106 253858 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@messages < 1335898108 400928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is horrible. < 1335898113 327791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: No, seriously; HackEgo has lambdabot messages. < 1335898118 979773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot will keep pinging it every now and then if you don't. < 1335898135 932186 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good for lambdabot? < 1335898143 231958 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliiot. I was feeling crawly, so i started a game at CDO. (I didn’t continue the old game at CAO yet since i felt like trying a naga since they apparently have a constricting ability nowadays.) < 1335898167 783662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll watch. < 1335898170 780970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, monqy is playing. < 1335898177 839006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, idle for four minutes. < 1335898181 896321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, CDO is packed today. < 1335898203 311352 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im eating < 1335898222 320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Spiders! < 1335898223 587443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spiders are great. < 1335898227 294557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should go to the spiders. < 1335898229 234579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1335898230 471912 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Tue May 1 11:50:29 2012 < 1335898230 803137 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Spider Nest didn’t exist either when i played the last time. Let’s see if i die. < 1335898233 472769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy 11:50:29. < 1335898250 663250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's a rather belated happy < 1335898250 834382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You have lots of HP. :( < 1335898258 614161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's for California. < 1335898270 306972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on a related note, I get vaguely freaked out whenever I look at the clock and see it's 5:23) < 1335898275 607637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Are you using bigterm? < 1335898278 431428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your messages keep overlapping. < 1335898280 901299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I mean you didn't say that in the same second as lambdabot's response < 1335898283 16718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hit r < 1335898288 843763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew, he is. < 1335898294 310536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't want to resize my terminal. < 1335898300 316053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want ion to 80x24 instead. < 1335898302 753760 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hit r to resize your terminal. < 1335898310 194859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: try hand of trog??? < 1335898313 367987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1335898315 489684 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hes too berk < 1335898317 960044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335898319 722648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hand of trog doesn't resize terminals < 1335898327 131123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe not for you < 1335898336 336912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: anyway, pls use 80x24 :( < 1335898349 121245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: thanks for r though that's useful (for knowing when to yell at people) < 1335898353 532225 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why? < 1335898372 285907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: please explain to ion about politeness and morals and civilised decency < 1335898376 177355 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can also see on the games list if a termsize is bigger than yours (itle be red) < 1335898384 699295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know that part but "so much worke" < 1335898385 405964 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ask ##crawl about hugeterm < 1335898405 520157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : hugeterm[1/4]: Any terminal size greater than 80x24 makes your games harder to watch for people using the standard size, which also means that all future viewings of your recorded games will be harder to watch. With ttyrecs specifically, larger terms mean both a scrambled view and a shorter playback time. < 1335898417 870297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also its ugly < 1335898425 757273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack 4 does not have this problem! < 1335898433 160468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and wouldn't even if watching were implemented!) < 1335898442 685667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:53 hugeterm[2/4]: Don't be that guy. < 1335898445 159582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion is being that guy < 1335898459 447075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i guess your terminal has to be even bigger than ion's to qualify for "thatguyness" < 1335898462 755384 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let’s try a kynäniska fighter. I suppose that translates to English rather well. A pencil neck. < 1335898462 801662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1335898466 681418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :minor sins are sins; why is ion an octopus < 1335898468 662764 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott i got eustachio the giant eyeball < 1335898473 953481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you die to it < 1335898476 74056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335898478 542302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: come onnnnn < 1335898488 247060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :polying uniques to giant eyeballs means they can't cast < 1335898490 719261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh how can i decide between watching ion and monqy < 1335898493 893043 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he hadn't spammed summons < 1335898495 127489 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch both < 1335898496 202316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes but < 1335898499 362536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have just skipped turns < 1335898513 28084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what are you doing this game < 1335898514 972718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh back to spacebar < 1335898520 54851 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can dive if you'd prefer < 1335898526 581600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"im fine with anythinge" < 1335898604 326381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: have you seen monqy's spacebar play < 1335898625 25021 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335898629 733737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1335898630 673633 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What’s monqy’s spacebar play? < 1335898635 554047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :connect to squarelos now < 1335898649 2525 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not as impressive as autorobin or xw or cashybrid or any of the other bots really < 1335898653 59853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually he's not going as fast as usual right now but "only a matter of time" < 1335898659 975482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wait, when did I say it was impressive < 1335898665 407179 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335898670 741612 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, watching. < 1335898678 643864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not impressive, it's just impressively idiotic < 1335898709 120166 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a lua script you’re using? < 1335898713 634450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335898720 478621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has autoexplore and an autofight script he wrote both on spcaebar < 1335898747 497306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, not a quarterstaff of chaos < 1335898754 29223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"crawl final bosse" < 1335898759 158432 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Do you happen to have a URL to your crawl config? I’m lazy. < 1335898787 235421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the ##crawl bots can generate those < 1335898798 526377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this CAO or CDO? < 1335898801 704140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CDO < 1335898804 352562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :squarelos < 1335898835 782440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he's squarelos on nethack4.org, too :) < 1335898848 336681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know he is, I watched him play his single NetHack 4 game :p < 1335898849 218046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, the bots only do CAO RC files < 1335898857 525439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what did you think of nh4? < 1335898871 996790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was unplayably laggy for me < 1335898874 114403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i quote, "nethack is weird" < 1335898885 937352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is weirder < 1335898890 726402 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack is weirder < 1335898891 421741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://crawl.develz.org/configs/trunk/squarelos.rc < 1335898892 127477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it's a matter of what you're used to < 1335898892 851510 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335898894 247139 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on the wrong OS to play df < 1335898894 635850 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1335898895 483720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://crawl.develz.org/configs/trunk/squarelos.rc < 1335898899 717646 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And stream it < 1335898905 753723 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a text-based medium < 1335898931 554352 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-49-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1335898931 572734 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-49-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1335898931 572896 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1335898937 691665 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could theoretically get a webcam-desktop-y thing and figure out my Livestream password < 1335898943 339329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're watching squarelos tho < 1335898960 791616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ion: the actual thing is after "AUTOWHATEVER" < 1335898978 503275 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335898986 839378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent given much effort to it < 1335898991 27260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# OF ALL COOL MONSTERS, I WANT ONLY THE COOLEST < 1335898995 968773 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably will actually try and make it good over the summer < 1335899001 317513 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335899002 497894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these comments do a good job of summarising my beliefs < 1335899004 259488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and goals < 1335899020 6255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :# MAP DELTAS TO HJKLYUBN BUT IN LOWERCASE < 1335899033 40875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have written that comment in lowercase so I wouldn't need the "but in lowercase" < 1335899046 98907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think ais523 appreciates the spirit of squarelos < 1335899061 143623 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1335899068 144983 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335899088 864773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder the square los fork never really caught on, if squarelos is its biggest supporter < 1335899111 22544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think squarelos is in "memorial" of squarelos instead < 1335899115 521496 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335899116 53921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :# THING < 1335899123 725355 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ion1/crawl-config/compare/master-base...master < 1335899167 207505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did monqy die < 1335899170 384853 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xom confusion < 1335899171 441869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always look away one second beforehand < 1335899174 618134 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't quaff curing because mumy < 1335899175 853779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, xom < 1335899183 284282 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should have jsut stayed still < 1335899186 987958 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :waited it out < 1335899188 569569 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nah" < 1335899210 456582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is upset at what the Crawl devteam did to mummies < 1335899226 377691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original version of them was a race that was all-around weak but capable of grinding, so that people who liked grinding had something to play < 1335899229 374804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they removed the grinding < 1335899236 279267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now they're just a challenge race < 1335899252 827248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like an improvement to me < 1335899262 567398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: please tell monqy to kill all the plants < 1335899269 615336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's being horrible and leaving them < 1335899311 131519 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: your bootstrap-linux looks awesome < 1335899311 654856 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1335899326 300461 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1335899326 827262 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 24m 35s ago: What package manager? < 1335899358 987778 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I head you wrote a simple package manager < 1335899376 831254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did you hear that? I mean, I have, sure. < 1335899384 419646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've written multiple things that could be classified as that. < 1335899387 972128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What are you doing walking around manually? < 1335899390 797072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're diving. < 1335899393 486188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, if it can't solve Sudoku, it's insufficiently good at resolving complex dependency issues < 1335899414 130802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I died a lot yesterday. :( < 1335899420 307116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, aftery ou passed out. < 1335899422 818786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*after you < 1335899456 871077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh! I was going to ask you < 1335899467 993452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you know the TAEB blog? it's down, and the Wayback Machine doesn't have it < 1335899477 379556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a copy (particularly of the Planar post), or can you ask sartak for a copy? < 1335899479 144032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm aware of that; however, someone found it < 1335899485 151779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a copy of the Planar post < 1335899492 69006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minus the images < 1335899493 621477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, where's the found version? or is it not anywhere? < 1335899500 21642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the images is a shame < 1335899501 260985 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: from Phantom_Hoover. How can I link to a single post in a log < 1335899501 755057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blog itself is up elsewhere, also minus the images < 1335899506 168324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have the images saved separately, though < 1335899510 577784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I just have to remember where it was < 1335899516 783379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: click the space between the name and the time < 1335899518 894666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, it's weird) < 1335899520 307985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then copy the url < 1335899522 427562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs js < 1335899529 136459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks < 1335899536 937715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://taeb-nethack.blogspot.de/ < 1335899542 763468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, browser history < 1335899570 122247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1335899572 247039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: there you go ^ < 1335899581 965743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1335899584 805151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lack of images is annoying < 1335899593 99558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the video links aren't working either, because I deleted my youtube account < 1335899608 130602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: could you try to dig up the images? it'd be nice to have a complete copy of that post (because I like it) < 1335899763 456255 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can't click between time and name on android browser or opera mini. Search musl on today's log and you should find it < 1335899769 876118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://nethack4.org/pastebin/3.tgz < 1335899782 753848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks < 1335899878 630044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: incomplete < 1335899887 840052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have tactical-planning.png < 1335899909 667859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that isn't the name of the file < 1335899915 311050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or strategic-planning.png < 1335899915 667230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the copy of the images I have < 1335899919 17181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, OK < 1335899923 788049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the name used in the URL < 1335899924 138035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably those are "tactics.png" and "strategy.png" < 1335899942 482662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to use a bit of imagination to work out which image goes where < 1335899983 140644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that post has no dependencies, right? ISTR a table of cost conversion things that isn't in this post, but I may be misremembering < 1335899991 847537 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: never mind. I was trying it with txt version codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-05-01#161409nortti < 1335900016 687846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, inst. That wasn't really a package manager. < 1335900025 158937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's the only post I made for that blog < 1335900029 923797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could give it a URL and it would automatically build the program it links to. < 1335900030 983708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, inst was a bit like aimake, wasn't it? < 1335900045 815966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it relied on the thing it downloaded already having a build system of its own < 1335900051 704828 :japh!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 NICK :wyldstallyns < 1335900090 486960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK, I'm going to upload a version of the post with images to esolangs.org. < 1335900102 666760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1335900107 254996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess nethack4.org would make more sense < 1335900116 284646 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What other software that could be classified as package managers < 1335900134 814562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was that thing I wrote for Kitten that was too underpowered to work. < 1335900150 111915 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kitten? < 1335900292 835185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Linux distro I almost wrote but then didn't. < 1335900299 11093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I recommend reading the post immediately before mine, btw, it's great (about the technical issues of knowing when you have a complete frame) < 1335900306 283397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, I remember that one < 1335900313 695292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which sorear found two bugs in BSD < 1335900374 794192 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how was your package manager too uderpowered < 1335900396 938654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the same way that cp does not make an adequate package manager. < 1335900415 408113 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what features it had < 1335900419 979086 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was your package manager cp < 1335900422 272717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Little. < 1335900424 216381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: cp++ < 1335900436 84002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :object-oriented cp? < 1335900462 904503 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp with the side effect of incrementing cp < 1335900500 725290 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp with huge bloat over standard cp using object oriented paragdim < 1335900515 526562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and operator overloading! < 1335900560 309110 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because everyone just loves that you can't tell what operator really does! < 1335900614 221424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1335900720 91050 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my package manager was for a pretty long time script that printed "Try compiling it yourself. I'l implement this if I feel like it." < 1335900739 385217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: why would you even run it? < 1335900803 481273 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In case my friends tried to install anything when using my computer < 1335900817 792762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: but you didn't tell them your root password, did you? < 1335900848 231301 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: my system allowed installing to ~/bin < 1335900868 123934 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: of course I didn't < 1335900890 85376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, most people wouldn't expect package managers to install there < 1335900914 94789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1335900921 98378 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was on my system manual (5 lines of text) < 1335901056 110040 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you can install programs to ~/bin if you want to" < 1335901090 260558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't get how they'd know what command to run < 1335901138 599588 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: apt-get was symlinked to it. All of my friends use *buntu or linux mint < 1335901291 862801 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.1.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335901294 861272 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.1.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335901309 160018 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.1.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!Batch abc < 1335901401 821170 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.1.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1335901402 352432 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1335901414 173573 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.1.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps < 1335901414 526562 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: _ about acro aol austro bc bct bf2c bfbignum brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes cat chaos chiqrsx9p choo cmd cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird elmer fudd glogbot_ignore google graph hello helloworld id inc insanetemp jethro kraut lperl lsh map monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq ping pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python python2 redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 ruby_ sadbf sanetemp sfedeesh sff < 1335901434 288370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show _ < 1335901434 641249 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh echo User Interps < 1335901436 52881 :shubshub!~yaaic@122.63.1.164 QUIT :Client Quit < 1335901449 492499 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!_ < 1335901450 23837 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :User Interps < 1335901454 113325 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1335901509 385369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp _ < 1335901509 562266 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter _ deleted. < 1335901563 141064 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is !bypass_ignore a botloop thing < 1335901593 194548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's for bypassing /ignore :P < 1335901643 963481 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that makes more sense < 1335901816 456566 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gasoline makes our cars run and our < 1335901858 29855 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gasoline makes our cars run and our Molotov cocktails burn. And depending on how much you drive, or how much you fight The Man each week, gasoline may very well be one of the biggest expenses you have. " < 1335901956 357009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks whether the wiki has been locked or something :P < 1335902011 697941 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why < 1335902049 405787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there have been no changes in about 2 days < 1335902116 688092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335902126 843021 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're righ. Interesting < 1335902133 900751 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+t < 1335902161 120303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i locked the wiki and deleted all pages and disabled oerjan's account and then graffitied a church < 1335902168 828522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then blew up the government < 1335902169 532444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers taking that as a hint to change the topic, but reconsiders. < 1335902178 216222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: all in a good day's work? < 1335902197 420190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes tomorrow i'm going to free all prisoners and destroy moon < 1335902201 307765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the moon < 1335902207 487758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't destroy moon of course, that's impossible < 1335902225 362876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Weren't you playing Crawl? < 1335902233 119715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alexander abian will finally be vindicated! < 1335902250 236071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway, the real reason there have been no edits is because there is no quality any more < 1335902251 467299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just ask NSQX < 1335902253 56966 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335902258 890697 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In a moment. < 1335902335 765742 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, now. < 1335902358 122932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Refutations were given toward that idea by NASA saying that part of the exploded Moon would come back as a meteorite impacting the Earth and causing sufficient damage to extinguish all life, while restoring the seasons in the process." < 1335902410 136869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: your terminal is still the wrong size tho < 1335902417 431799 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1335902447 804430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploding the moon: not as good as you'd think? < 1335902447 961559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Abian gained a degree of international notoriety for his claim that blowing up the Moon would solve virtually every problem of human existence." good < 1335902464 141743 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t want a smaller field of vision just because Crawl’s software architecture sucks. < 1335902494 971614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just NASA propaganda to protect their secret moon base? < 1335902506 91689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: please edcuate ion on not being a terrible person :( < 1335902524 635747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: "hugeterm is sinful" - everyone < 1335902531 170522 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: do you want to be sinre < 1335902543 458779 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Mr. everyone’s free to contribute a patch to fix Crawl. < 1335902544 772659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: nobody will ever play your replays on tv!! < 1335902552 303963 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good, they suck anyway. < 1335902561 13695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah because you suck (because you use a big terminal) < 1335902567 390237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that abian has been dead since 1999, and feels old for remembering him. < 1335902593 309442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont actually care about < 1335902595 606718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the replay thing btw < 1335902599 878368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just think its wronge < 1335902655 646859 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use underlines for unaware or something? < 1335902658 294373 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird man < 1335902713 369497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought it was just a stack of hounds < 1335902868 495293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh yeah felids are fast right < 1335902873 834125 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335902876 486228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1335902881 241281 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you felde < 1335902886 188460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :winning feck of chei continues to be my ultimate goal < 1335902892 191108 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chei will slow you < 1335902893 72605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :down < 1335902897 486098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1335902902 209995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's terrible < 1335903054 250896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"left tentacle" < 1335903080 213885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, the aptitude sudoku solver actually lead to improvements to aptitude < 1335903386 702406 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how was your cp++ different from standard cp < 1335903401 401407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had a ++ after it < 1335903464 391164 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so it just copied files from place a to place b < 1335903486 59596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a ++ < 1335903504 269838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: phantoms are fun, aren't they? < 1335903521 365757 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the ++ did < 1335903594 791341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1335903608 629695 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost as fun as imps. < 1335903648 802647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: who are we and why are we stalking him < 1335903657 271872 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how should I know < 1335903658 717050 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like < 1335903659 387657 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1335903665 213445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess i should ask squarelos instead < 1335903675 270918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i originally thought "squarelos" was derived form "squirrel" somehow < 1335903676 328673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :squirrelos < 1335903679 985112 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1335903681 94286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before i learned what it < 1335903682 152422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually meant < 1335903700 328450 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :squirrelos is good < 1335903718 160456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's where the los is in the shame of a squirrel's silhouette < 1335903726 130114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shape < 1335903730 509425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in the shame < 1335903962 972923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What does that macro do? < 1335903973 758366 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searches for corpses i can eat/offer to Trog. < 1335903978 840934 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case i missed one < 1335903997 234026 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, this is an awesome entrance with the c. < 1335904018 648871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What c? < 1335904023 532673 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A centaur < 1335904028 356449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1335904037 261510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distortion, eh? < 1335904043 613586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy must be proud of you. < 1335904062 502974 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether to go through an escape hatch < 1335904084 732376 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not proud of disto unless you're wielding it < 1335904100 624158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he just has it quivered. < 1335904102 212270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's weird. < 1335904104 681670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Wield that bugger. < 1335904141 70691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You'll die soon, might as well enjoy the remaining time! < 1335904145 809531 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1335904171 718895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, can octopodes wield? < 1335904174 960758 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335904200 466171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what's the difference between an octopode and an octopus? < 1335904231 536795 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :∋ < 1335904241 456464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay. < 1335904244 455477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're a set of creatures? < 1335904389 429547 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If i say you’re a humanoid, are you a set of creatures? < 1335904458 607574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1335904471 314153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't think "humanoid" is a very descriptive species name, that's all. :p < 1335904740 476409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1335904791 32 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so here's a puzzle for people: what is nocookie.net? < 1335904793 744901 :wyldstallyns!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a statue is a humanoid non-creature < 1335904810 972845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :visiting it directly just gives a fake error message, and a bunch of analytics scripts that noscript blocks < 1335904841 678158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems to be linked to wikia in some bizarre way, according to search results on the name < 1335904847 892498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't necessarily look fake to me < 1335904852 579299 :wyldstallyns!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the rbl blacklist < 1335904855 159090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can imagine a webserver serving that page for a Host header line it isn't configured to serve < 1335904967 463751 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335905039 834985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You tentacle-slap it." < 1335905059 516149 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335905186 154702 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335905847 126830 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Have you heard of the Internet , you colossal dinks? Little demons packing up electric O's and I's, and giving them to tiny robots to carry long tubes? (I think that's how it goes; I refused to buy the TCP/IP text during my undergrad.)" < 1335905902 133184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: actually it's a big truck < 1335905914 171945 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1335905914 824975 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1335905916 281689 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott < 1335905925 697625 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That speech was hilarious < 1335905947 648962 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see that elliott has sent me a message regarding that lesser-known proto-esolang, FALSE. < 1335905960 741616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSVO proto. < 1335906033 742518 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's proto like INTERCAL is, in that it was an esolang before anyone cared to classify esolangs as a thing < 1335906093 126478 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, it came out in the same year as the BFs? < 1335906111 461739 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is P" also a proto-esolang < 1335906117 307682 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's just one of the 3 founding esolangs, then. < 1335906121 428043 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, yes. < 1335906432 984742 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the third founder? < 1335906438 824402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nsqx < 1335906452 405014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: WHY AREN'T MY MESSAGES COMING THROUGH < 1335906459 20768 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeruFSX, FALSE, Brainfuck and Befunge,. < 1335906478 743170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like BObjective FLOLCODE. < 1335906490 108830 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, befunge < 1335906507 224839 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge always felt suprisingly sane to me < 1335906510 790280 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: They are. :-P < 1335906517 630239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T DROP THE HAT < 1335906522 927041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEAR TEH HATE < 1335906536 376062 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeruFSX, yeah, but that's just because at the time 2D and stack-based were esoteric :P < 1335906560 330826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FALSE and Befunge are surprisingly usable, really. < 1335906568 350128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck was the first tarpit. < 1335906576 646294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tarpit esolang, that is. < 1335906601 167407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1335906602 753700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe not. < 1335906607 517719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what Perlis was referring to by Turing tar-pit? < 1335906615 285035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. what examples he had in mind. It was the 80s, after all. < 1335906625 159700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll ask— oh, he's dead. < 1335906722 990848 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assembler would be one < 1335906750 874094 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language so universal and powerful it can't really be used? < 1335906753 167958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assembly language is... not a Turing tarpit. < 1335906759 517473 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a turing tarpit < 1335906763 931171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a start, most architectures aren't Turing complete. < 1335906768 866828 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe that's what Perlis was getting at < 1335906779 453086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1335906789 687555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose so, but if so it's a rather different meaning than is now generally used. < 1335906794 452297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's unlikely he knew about P''. < 1335906803 634188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Turing machines were certainly around in the 80s. :p < 1335906813 887937 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any references to a Turing tar-pit before then? < 1335906821 649392 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the word was coined from that quote, I though < 1335906824 832331 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*term < 1335906841 589864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it did. < 1335906844 67551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*was. < 1335906922 258176 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wonder what Perlis was referring to by Turing tar-pit? < 1335906922 578869 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i.e. what examples he had in mind. It was the 80s, after all. < 1335906922 597276 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Maybe I'll ask oh, he's dead. < 1335906936 661208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mangled my em dash. < 1335906938 116981 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR that it was in reference to some trends in computer science in the 60s. < 1335906970 642944 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where everyone thought that the key to understanding computation was getting the simplest systems of a given computational class. < 1335906977 771885 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the early days of theoretical CS were a golden age for esolang design < 1335906987 40613 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :design an esolang, prove it's Turing complete, collect PhD < 1335906988 12838 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus resulting in extremely compact but obtuse systems, i.e. Turing tarpits. < 1335907014 458750 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their esolangs are all boring though. < 1335907018 173943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Then Wolfram revived that school of thought! < 1335907027 362586 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1335907035 177188 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-182.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And declared himself a New Kind of Scientist. < 1335907038 708312 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, put it into a medically-induced coma, perhaps. < 1335907042 612671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aided by one Alex Smith. < 1335907053 622885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 523rd Alex Smith to ever exist, and the most: EVIL. < 1335907264 135449 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1335907326 76066 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re: Crawl, https://github.com/ion1/crawl-config/compare/master-base...master < 1335907458 178416 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1335907704 145397 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-182.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1335907722 693516 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-199-85.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335908215 185408 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335908230 603770 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1335909142 843654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you dig esolangs.org? < 1335909227 380786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org. 86400 IN A 178.79.159.81 < 1335909259 710325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You died? < 1335909265 310743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What nameserver does it use? < 1335909266 60312 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it < 1335909275 230698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone TV ion's death. < 1335909295 22601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 4.2.2.1, I think < 1335909303 518056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not what i meant :) < 1335909307 724985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, esolangs.org? there isn't an authority section < 1335909318 830194 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: YASD. < 1335909333 265676 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you dig it man < 1335909337 187695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I suspect you're just not giving dig the right options to see it < 1335909339 657278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What was it to? < 1335909347 529419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it normally shows it by default < 1335909353 901365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, there's a specific "authority: 0" < 1335909358 379695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odd. < 1335909360 637416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess it's a cached value from nowhere in paritcular < 1335909371 659588 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: cccc and not reading a scroll of teleportation quickly enough. < 1335909405 380028 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Where was the TV again? I thought termcast.org, but i don’t see anything that looks like a Crawl session. < 1335909427 283733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :termcast.develz.org. < 1335909451 323368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, if it's on TV then everyone will see all my stupid banter. < 1335909456 787917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we'll just never know. < 1335909732 858435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Hey, I want to play Crawl. < 1335909742 258731 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t do iiitt! < 1335909746 662117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I go for DsAK, GhMo, or SpAs? < 1335909762 402795 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DSAK < 1335909763 847088 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whatever you feel like" < 1335909789 982529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I asked ion, not you. :( < 1335909792 620847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Aww, really? < 1335909800 626588 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ll donate some urine, get some snacks and then watch. < 1335909818 579542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, what if not DsAK? < 1335909826 799096 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do whatever you want. I’ve been meaning to try DS at some point, too. :-P < 1335909829 990300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I got annoyed with DsAK because I hate Crawl's hunger mechanism.) < 1335909841 809675 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Is Ds ≠ DS? < 1335909847 142603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ds = DS, I think. < 1335909849 262018 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ds is DS after the change < 1335909851 201625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure which abbreviation is canonical. < 1335909859 234513 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Oh. < 1335909860 219858 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be DS then it got changed to Ds < 1335909861 788303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's "Demonspawn". < 1335909862 746291 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335909868 839785 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's why it was changed < 1335909890 48963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll play a few games of SpAs first, since I die quickly that way. < 1335909903 764030 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SpEn is nice. < 1335909936 458574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, here goes. < 1335909961 692769 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is spen any good for diving? < 1335910037 5234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have my own monster fan club already. < 1335910107 745921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was lucky. < 1335910220 198104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Almost certainly not. OTOH, i’d suck at diving with any character. < 1335910232 627399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. :( < 1335910261 63482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, manage to escape Grinder then die to a scorpion. < 1335910270 252613 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't have meleed it < 1335910275 551028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1335910283 491469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ran away I'd probably have run into ol' Grinder again, though. < 1335910286 136265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let's try that again. < 1335910290 366774 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have blowguned it < 1335910295 694689 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scorps are weak to poison < 1335910303 521384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How ironic. < 1335910344 889214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1335910350 883191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once more and then I'll play something less silly. < 1335910363 947680 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea: fight Sigmund at XL 1. < 1335910369 356766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was sleeping! < 1335910398 587888 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you still had stabbing at whatever it starts at. :-P < 1335910467 967951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is that bloody downstairs... < 1335910519 507026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINALLY < 1335910622 716828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1335910636 847061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335910643 235033 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1335910655 714449 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yesterday Bethesda posted on their Twitter that they'd release information about the upcoming DLC today. < 1335910692 638127 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today they posted on their blog the title of the DLC, a generic poster and that they'd give more details at E3. < 1335910777 433779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Xom great? < 1335910825 573565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335910850 418136 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1335910892 158121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xom... < 1335910926 747737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was fun. < 1335910972 18091 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You stopped already? :-( < 1335911015 431657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only SpAs. < 1335911025 164082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm deciding DsAK vs. GhMo for my non-silly game. < 1335911056 228669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1335911070 795396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Is Spriggan Preist terrible? I just accidentally selected it :D < 1335911086 234781 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1335911107 687017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, let's try this. < 1335911224 949491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's unhelpful. < 1335911320 414912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Five* altars of Xom? < 1335911348 813285 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be able to handle a flood of new followers. < 1335911489 3203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Terence scary? I forget. < 1335911501 945922 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not too scary IIRC < 1335911532 85885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1335911641 835588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Does sustenance do anything to ghouls? < 1335911652 811933 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if d, drops it. < 1335911695 479166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what does d, do? < 1335911697 418583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drop useless stuff? < 1335911703 172690 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335911705 219012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I like my scrolls of random uselessness. < 1335911763 38226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How fast are giant newts? < 1335911796 876517 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normal IIRC < 1335911826 66578 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah normal < 1335911883 625904 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.222 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335911911 858400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh joy. < 1335911936 94865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeeeh. < 1335911936 813147 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Can you find the temple with ^Fecumenical? In any case, ^G will show if you’ve seen the entrance. < 1335911957 347354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yes, ^Fecumenical works, because it's the "entrance to the Ecumenical Temple". < 1335911975 916830 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, i was wondering whether ^F sees such things or now. < 1335911977 812118 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1335912093 487683 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Este amuleto protege a su portador de algunas formas de confusión mental, incluyendo la furia involuntaria. < 1335912103 970791 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should play crawl in some language you don’t know. < 1335912141 260042 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :book of beasts < 1335912143 815324 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Un libro con hechizos mágicos. ¡Ten cuidado, no vaya a ser que te muerda! < 1335912158 806769 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :La peau d'un animal. < 1335912400 544494 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1335913252 421467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913252 421546 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913252 421624 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913252 421705 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913252 421783 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913252 421860 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913252 421938 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913252 422015 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913252 422091 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913252 422169 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913252 422246 :ineiros!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913262 370417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you're kidding me. < 1335913267 543804 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913267 561613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913292 684036 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net NICK :Guest90172 < 1335913297 17228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, Guest90172. < 1335913316 465218 :tzxn3_!~tzxn3@cpc2-nott16-2-0-cust552.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913316 484512 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913316 484639 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran JOIN :#esoteric < 1335913317 653672 :Guest90172!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net NICK :kmc_ < 1335913319 798472 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez, split hit a lot of people here too < 1335913342 537818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What's warding? Henzell isn't working for me. < 1335913344 823723 :kmc_!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net NICK :kmc < 1335913356 224414 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1335913366 834605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how you're meant to reach that pet rock store. < 1335913367 894724 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :warding makes melee attacks from summoned stuff fail sometimes, and also gives you rN+ unless that changed < 1335913379 336924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that sounds useless. < 1335913384 690222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1335913387 756469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :From other people's summoned stuff. < 1335913391 124653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that sounds less useless. < 1335913399 278188 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pet rocks? < 1335913404 766501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1335913407 306514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pet rocks. < 1335913408 327124 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335913414 175156 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you were supposed to use the boring beetle < 1335913421 804470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get through the walls < 1335913424 457686 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could dig < 1335913426 759956 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1335913447 523543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They give you a dangerous monster just to let you get into their pet rock store? < 1335913467 548822 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could hit the wall really hard. < 1335913761 19682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back. < 1335913792 435687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1335913802 292424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nicer. < 1335913809 929387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335913863 142357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You should, like, fish me out of this mess. < 1335913964 728731 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-141-25.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1335913993 671864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH THANKS ION & MONQY < 1335914108 455688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1335914112 628646 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches < 1335914132 554790 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Convince the jelly, the frog and the orc to join your side. < 1335914144 171638 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, < 1335914145 55934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mess < 1335914150 634362 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you have < 1335914159 392317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much. < 1335914163 22599 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmmmmmm-hm < 1335914168 322017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to id those potions but: no scrolls. < 1335914168 481991 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of unidentified stuff I see < 1335914182 994055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's kind of useless with the failure rate. < 1335914197 629164 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran JOIN :#esoteric < 1335914204 181369 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaffid is less dangerous on ghouls than most races since potions of mutation don't really hurt you < 1335914215 805788 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor do potions of decay < 1335914216 689158 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :,etc < 1335914226 21864 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wasting cure mut is a non concern < 1335914246 334163 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since you don;'t get muts) < 1335914260 606622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but. < 1335914278 295688 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What potions have you not identified yet? < 1335914281 120487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's four potions with 2; at most two are going to be what I want. < 1335914290 962545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I forget how to tell. < 1335914293 175120 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1335914307 444951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them. :p < 1335914313 656547 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toggle with - < 1335914322 191633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1335914325 379854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recognise any potions. < 1335914327 998076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that would just list every potion. < 1335914335 826755 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1335914403 46579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, what luck. < 1335914408 790636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Oh, and I'm on a downstairs. < 1335914414 860490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lured these guys upstairs. It wasn't my proudest moment. < 1335914419 750090 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335914425 504080 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyeah < 1335914431 107344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's downstairs is more orcs, mostly. < 1335914446 877316 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill the jelly < 1335914454 700665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, with 28 HP? < 1335914463 37859 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else can you do < 1335914464 978815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went down from 50-something HP to like 10 in one turn. < 1335914466 751509 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the jelly is almost dead < 1335914468 882438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have another potion of curing. < 1335914472 954242 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that from ascending the stairs < 1335914476 588879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1335914477 613055 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stair ascent takes a long time) < 1335914479 604825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1335914482 444462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't dodge < 1335914487 246813 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335914491 354513 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you weak < 1335914505 76998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends what you mean by weak < 1335914505 133675 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know this character < 1335914541 256845 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335914551 327542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a sincere question. < 1335914608 182784 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335914657 121460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :( < 1335914735 251487 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Client Quit < 1335914751 335086 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooops < 1335914752 593263 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1335914753 957600 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1335914764 957686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing happened since last time, dude. < 1335914766 212661 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335914771 187443 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :squishy and low damage output < 1335914775 593091 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem both < 1335914784 1652 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you took all that damamge and couldn't kill the jello < 1335914805 148166 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe you just got unlucky or i underestimated the orc or something < 1335914806 565554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"im not too bad at unarmed combat i guess" < 1335914812 947017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im ok on the armour front < 1335914856 210621 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don';t look okay < 1335914863 653058 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 ac or what-have-you isn't very much < 1335914874 637549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1335914898 577164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to die again < 1335915133 421951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1335915146 877469 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-9-69-93.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335915158 416140 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1335915158 519797 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1335915185 133246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, fire resistance < 1335915199 528627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm inevitably going to die quickly so i don't get the chance to benefit from all this loot < 1335915205 903445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :case in point < 1335915229 509040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1335915236 232272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't expect it to follow me to the stairs. :( < 1335915401 72170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time for another depressing march into inevitable doom. < 1335915402 663852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to < 1335915405 330479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*towards < 1335915411 426318 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott's ghost (average Spriggan Assassin) comes into view. < 1335915437 197296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1335915442 41127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you Trog? < 1335915460 490731 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For bersercques and the starting stats. < 1335915490 627946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess who just died! < 1335915556 990614 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doooooooooooom < 1335915577 738108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should watch me play Crawl. It's a balst. < 1335915588 95309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a blast. But mostly a balst. < 1335915600 777390 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A balst indeed. < 1335915607 441436 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ballast < 1335915619 980661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :An active ballistomycete. < 1335915633 321302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I admit, I googled the full name. < 1335915662 385507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget if rCorr is worthwhile. < 1335915795 47277 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :G - a ring of the Octopus King (left hand) {tried, AC+1 EV+1 Str+1 Dex+1 Int+1} < 1335915808 137669 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It is if you ever melée jellies. :-) < 1335915817 520281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the time. < 1335915840 386112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess who has teleportitis! < 1335915846 363493 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1335915847 850987 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-211-74.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335915853 157982 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-195-53.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1335915886 690251 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you eat a leprechaun/nymph/tengu corpse?! < 1335915890 568520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1335916044 347480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a scroll of teleportation!!!! NOOOO < 1335916048 427529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might... TELEPORT < 1335916064 697449 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has the potion of heal wounds been nerfed in the last six months? < 1335916090 268191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask monqy; I only started playing 10 days ago. < 1335916188 79446 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like summoning sickness < 1335916204 562386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What, teleportitis? < 1335916213 795577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teleportitis is where you teleport randomly every now and then. < 1335916257 261567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1335916260 483897 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1335916265 913593 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should play NetHack! (You shouldn't play NetHack.) < 1335916438 533445 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1335916568 665836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Help, I've had teleportitis for like a billion turns now. :( < 1335916593 924306 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> how many turns is a billion < 1335916602 811391 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rip lambdabot" < 1335916615 368416 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Get a potion of cure mutation! < 1335916628 878717 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cutation < 1335916630 922080 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1335916633 311983 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that. < 1335916636 805239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Not mutation. < 1335916637 895321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cursed ring. < 1335916645 149788 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a potion of cure cursed ring! < 1335916645 232241 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a scroll of remove curse. < 1335916651 89928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I've tried. < 1335916652 274080 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursed ring < 1335916654 286868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've id'd about 5 scrolls. < 1335916656 988468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of them are remove curse. :( < 1335916698 857376 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :An iguana, a hippogriff, a giant frog, a jelly, an orc warrior and 2 small zombies come into view. < 1335916719 560867 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :k A manticore and a hill giant come into view. < 1335916781 843679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Nice. < 1335916914 15175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Is an ancient robe worth trying on? < 1335916951 689141 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: How ancient? < 1335916956 382371 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a heavy armor guy, i’d try it out of curiosity (have a scroll of remove curse or read detect curse first). For a robe guy, definitely. < 1335916964 919256 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might want to wash it first. < 1335916995 336267 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: elliott likes other people’s clothes unwashed. < 1335917010 917910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You finish putting on the cursed -1 robe of Folly {-Cast Int-5 Curse}. < 1335917010 973492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You feel stupid. < 1335917010 973672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oops, that feels deathly cold. < 1335917015 451988 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1335917029 8326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This will go well with my cursed ring of teleportation. < 1335917042 363153 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember what i said about having a scroll of remove curse? < 1335917044 412613 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: id yoha ve emove curse? < 1335917048 625841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1335917065 143239 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think elliott is trying to teach me not to do that. < 1335917103 96348 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could ssh to the crawl server and ask him that in game. < 1335917132 430540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335917133 696103 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He doesn't answer my Cruestions. < 1335917136 195190 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1335917138 977677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Take a glance at my game. < 1335917139 467212 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott < 1335917150 887635 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nice < 1335917163 315565 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you fighting Pistachio? < 1335917182 777081 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY YOU WON! < 1335917187 406713 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a tough nut to crack, eh? < 1335917223 90742 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you had to draw him out of his shell first. < 1335917261 991873 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not good at pistachio puns, please send help) < 1335917277 754122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:07 eustachio[3/3]: Beware his glorious mustache! Not to be confused with pistachio. < 1335917296 893335 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good pun < 1335917767 85777 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it occurs that https://github.com/kmcallister/qoppa is kind of an esolang and so i should mention it here < 1335918051 347411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you for your minimal contribution to the channel! < 1335918071 249754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, we have another new member of the wiki who doesn't know how to use preview. < 1335918085 997364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they made a brainfuck derivative. < 1335918087 244618 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language is kind of an esolang and so i should mention it here < 1335918105 471270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The language utilizes cellular automation" It... does? < 1335918128 262570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The language utilizes a cellular automation. The automation evolves in a data structure known as the Nevermore, hence, the language's name. The structure is a bit array of length 8 with an initial value set to 0 [0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0]." < 1335918130 741812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we're being trolled. < 1335918143 84887 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: [[Finnish language]] is too eso for my taste. :-( < 1335918235 200136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone wants to go on a ride, start at http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Nevermore&diff=next&oldid=32178 and keep hitting "newer edit". < 1335918377 732548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You realise Scheme has functions to support alist munging ,right? < 1335918385 376945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bind could be a lot simpler (although you'd need to change (var binding) to (var . binding)). < 1335918420 477077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm. < 1335918894 371058 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I entered the Lair, but i think i’ll stop for now. < 1335918902 969551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like Liar. < 1335918915 930148 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not realize that < 1335918916 231370 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lawyer < 1335918920 26672 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which functions? < 1335918931 233526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*munging, right? < 1335918933 217164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm not sure which one I was thinking of looking at bind. < 1335918939 34440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: But it definitely has an insert-into-alist function. < 1335918966 203926 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1335919058 879699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION started to play but then immediately quit. < 1335919062 772108 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a [[brainfuck]] derivative designed to be as difficult and obscure to program in. < 1335919066 650386 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You accidentally the comparison. < 1335919594 310930 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :<…> so given that this is math 12, does it need to be conanical form? < 1335919596 360948 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : O’Brien? < 1335919821 654314 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: That's a fancy '\'' you've got there. < 1335919835 482678 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :'’' < 1335919845 586934 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonsense. We speak ASCII in here. < 1335919857 486065 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O'Brien was clearly the best person in _1984_. He knew what was up. < 1335919905 89982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "So apply takes the uglier approach of quoting each argument to prevent double-evaluation." < 1335919906 80303 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that this is #esoteric, shouldn’t we speak something like EBCDIC here? < 1335919912 114608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: FWIW, I think the solution to this is to simply drop apply. < 1335919922 223123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a very meaningful operation on operatives. < 1335919975 844961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, by the way, if anyone wants to read ais523's post on the Planar NetHack AI with the pictures, it's up at http://esolangs.org/planar/. < 1335919984 634628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long-term validity of URL not guaranteed. < 1335920013 595468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1335920015 383167 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Tue May 1 17:53:34 2012 < 1335920015 406899 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, can you get rid of 'apply' in the interpreter? < 1335920017 202061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tonqy < 1335920017 397680 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1335920018 264760 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without nastiness? < 1335920026 280792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Probably. I'd have to see where it's used. Was that in the post? < 1335920031 758277 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree it's not meaningful on operatives; my 'apply' will produce nonsense if you use it on a not-applicative < 1335920034 778893 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335920043 491334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're going for Scheme polyglotting, then yes, you'll need something silly like that. < 1335920050 62558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because Scheme doesn't use operatives :P < 1335920143 533745 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if it quite counts as polyglot < 1335920150 443346 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, that's almost the whole point of the article < 1335920166 584788 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-211-74.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Early OS X development releases were actually for the IBM PC. < 1335920178 923153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would just write a metacircular evaluator and a separate Scheme interpreter. < 1335920181 582913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's no fun, I know. < 1335920205 928160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: This thing? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/IBM_PC_5150.jpg < 1335920243 145979 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-211-74.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, the later 32-bit IBM compatibles. Obviously. < 1335920279 532276 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-211-74.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's no other damned way of referring to that hacked-up arch. < 1335920342 352114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The edits just keep coming in. < 1335920551 166607 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:(1)*(:(2)*(:(3)*(:(4)*(:(5)*(:(6)*(:(7)*(:(8)*(:(9)*(!~:^)))))))))):(:)!(~^~(~a~*~a~*)~a*^:(0)*)~a*~:(a(:^)*())~*a(:^)*~()~(0)((!^~)())(:)!((:(~:(,)*S~^!^)~a*^:^~!a~^*a*)~a*^:^):^ < 1335920552 762582 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597, ...out of time! < 1335920577 78160 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:(1)*(:(2)*(:(3)*(:(4)*(:(5)*(:(6)*(:(7)*(:(8)*(:(9)*(!~:^)))))))))):(~^~(~a~*~a~*)~a*^:(0)*)~a*~:(a(:^)*())~*a(:^)*~()~(0)((!^~)())((:(~:(,)*S~^!^)~a*^:^~!a~^*a*)~a*^:^):^ < 1335920578 670520 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597, ...out of time! < 1335920643 281598 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well the claim is that you can start with a tiny fexpr language and produce something with enough syntax to be usable for 'real programming' < 1335920652 46211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1335920658 205741 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ignoring the LOLPARENTHESES crowd) < 1335920661 570865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't necessarily need to make your interpreter valid Scheme for that, though. < 1335920667 598468 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes the claim stronger, though < 1335920672 773552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1335920690 283268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wasn't dissing the article, just saying I'd drop apply were I making my own operative-based language. < 1335920695 726344 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1335920700 831567 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't think you were dissing the article :) < 1335920721 956526 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i were making my own operative-based language i might suck it up and have primitive wrap/unwrap like Kernel < 1335920745 842806 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for the demonstration, that gets in the way of "omg eval is only three lines" < 1335920762 99430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like wrap/unwrap at all. I'd rather build the evaluation logic into lambda. < 1335920819 93165 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1335920830 720995 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazy Newb Pack comes with alternate keybindings < 1335920840 13356 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1335920846 771722 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And other stuff that seems like it would be useful on more than just Windows < 1335920852 298322 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, for Dwarf Fortress < 1335920861 370153 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335921208 168601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1335921208 879135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :play < 1335921209 417513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stock < 1335921210 117083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :df < 1335921212 69647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy < 1335921221 797889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello monqy < 1335921239 102118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ok by stock i mean "stock with dwarf therapist" but that's it < 1335921240 517424 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'll be fine with the guide on the wiki, right? < 1335921247 363388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the wiki guide is good < 1335921261 919345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and you won't need dwarf therapist until you get a bunch of dwarfs and need to futz about with micromanaging the labours) < 1335921284 164496 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't wanna micromanage labour < 1335921288 435872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tough < 1335921298 450658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("labour" is a technical term here) < 1335921307 1484 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what it means < 1335921504 257625 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1335921508 504467 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need to fix the sound < 1335921550 570516 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your dwarfs are unionizing? < 1335921561 669088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you uh < 1335921572 840450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :could just play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6FXeupOp04 in the background < 1335921574 427605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that's the only sound < 1335921617 659518 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, YouTube is crap for me < 1335921646 164850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the mp3 or ogg or whatever file is in the game directory somewhere :P < 1335921647 967000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in data/ I think < 1335921659 903303 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's fine < 1335921672 479955 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that music was actually in the game? < 1335921693 481363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: That's what plays constantly in a loop throughout a game of Dwarf Fortress in Fortress mode, yes. < 1335921705 54783 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::V < 1335921726 717459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you implying you haven't played DF? :( < 1335921731 145025 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, what settings do I use to make DF be decently large? < 1335921741 462086 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I've done it before < 1335921741 859985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You press the maximise button. < 1335921760 605042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean font size, you probably don't want that any bigger, or it'll be difficult to see enough at once. < 1335921766 816639 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me? < 1335921768 308224 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed the WINDOWEDX and WINDOWEDY and curses thing < 1335921777 384881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Yes. < 1335921784 514374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What's wrong with maximise? < 1335921790 256199 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watched somebody play it on youtube < 1335921808 938984 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that I've done it before without maximize and maximize means harder to chat at the same time < 1335921810 888165 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too much micromanagement. < 1335921820 451066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: It's not really as micromanagey as it looks. < 1335921824 137637 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I don't like smiley faces < 1335921827 697692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people play it like that but they're boring. < 1335921832 169763 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Little smiley faces < 1335921837 14410 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like beards < 1335921838 820771 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the whole "view one horizontal level of the world at once" thing looks confusing as hell. < 1335921843 482545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You'll end up maximising it anyway. And they come as beards by default. < 1335921847 607614 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would benefit from modern 3D graphics, at least above ground < 1335921854 721618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Oh please. < 1335921855 952753 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I bet they're too lazy to implement that. < 1335921857 584920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They say that about roguelikes. < 1335921872 208904 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbf df is uglier than roguelikes < 1335921875 9662 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no they don't < 1335921876 997614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a deliberate design decision; Slaves to Armok: God of Blood (the game to which DF is a sequel) was 3D. < 1335921900 938063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, they do. < 1335921909 316816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: If they don't, you've configured something brokenly. < 1335921919 650277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you running it with terminal output or something? < 1335921927 541504 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I am not < 1335921956 91235 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it was the same when I installed via Lazy Newb Pack on a school computer with no graphics set < 1335921972 610783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the default smilies do have beards. Admittedly it looks kinda like ":D" if you don't know they're beards. < 1335921975 495794 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it was the same when I played DF a long time ago and changed a configuration option to fix it < 1335921988 664640 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh < 1335922009 288751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wait, that's how it looks in CP 437 too. Well, whatever, for the purposes of DF they're beards. < 1335922012 198469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, anyone, perhaps Gregor, know of any good free MIDI desynthesizers? < 1335922017 561655 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make the water levels show up < 1335922021 107850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you put a .ogg or whatever in and get a .mid out < 1335922029 608469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one in the repositories here but it doesn't actually work < 1335922031 23151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cat /dev/urandom < 1335922038 854532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's pretty unlikely to work < 1335922043 587137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll work as well as anything else. < 1335922045 897096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen recent changes? < 1335922055 42550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, should I? < 1335922066 234383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, uh. < 1335922067 456752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1335922068 966806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this should not be a massively hard problem, I've been considering writing one myself if there aren't any < 1335922084 389450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend viewing them all in order for the best experience. < 1335922105 147393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You have to set ?limit=100 to see all of them.) < 1335922121 978345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1335922127 858869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should tell them about the preview button < 1335922135 270689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my RSS feed bunched them into 7 changes < 1335922146 740115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really hilarious thing is, I don't think they removed the BF instructions yet < 1335922170 375369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could just look at the page to make sure < 1335922176 976410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that language reminds me weirdly of Malbolge < 1335922210 662341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's best to view the changes in order < 1335922215 563660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it becomes about < 1335922218 250870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 different languages < 1335922222 9256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order < 1335922229 451474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell at a glance whether it's harder or easier than Malbolge to program in, that's probably a good thing < 1335922230 868009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ends up in weird half-way states along the way < 1335922236 232442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you know who gets to tell them about the preview button? :) < 1335922380 470239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me, I guess < 1335922384 193639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Xamarin has just announced that they got the Java part of Android ported to C# via machine translation. < 1335922390 299363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy, the comments on that one are going to be great < 1335922406 819194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it puts five different fanboy/troll factions in conflict) < 1335922434 576401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey, what would happen if I pointed TAEB at a Crawl server? < 1335922453 892717 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anything wrong with curses square? < 1335922464 176557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it /might/ manage to start a game, but it would error out as soon as the game started due to not being able to parse its stats < 1335922468 453082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: square fonts are bad < 1335922472 374319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make text difficult to read < 1335922474 682154 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1335922475 564521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even then, you'd need to put the class/race in the RC file < 1335922492 109038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm, that wouldn't work either, it'd just replace it with a NetHack RC file, which would cause Crawl to spew warnings < 1335922493 760976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can't I just make it assume things about the stats if it can't parse them? :) < 1335922497 191502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in short, go for it, it'll be hilarious < 1335922500 916310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, that's not how TAEB works < 1335922514 508232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was working on my own Crawl bot using TAEB technologies, but didn't get very far < 1335922527 937225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to problems trying to parse things like items; it was surprisingly hard to get it to chop and eat corpses < 1335922542 575314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how hard is it to get TAEB running? < 1335922555 842018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit scared about all the dependencies, given that it's a bit bitrotten by now < 1335922576 69204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we fix the dependency bitrot every several months < 1335922589 669893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the bitrot is rarely all that bad < 1335922598 445245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why is the last repo commit a year old? < 1335922607 748561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time we tried, it wouldn't run on my machine but would on other people's < 1335922613 503857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wrong repo, I guess, are you taking it from my repo? < 1335922626 403779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1335922634 658731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gitorious.org/taeb/ais523 < 1335922634 835454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, how long does it take to install all the deps?) < 1335922655 223898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 20 minutes to half an hour, faster than that if you aren't on a netbok < 1335922657 170780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*netbook < 1335922673 912732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :any known OS X–related problems? < 1335922676 784185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I should really put the dependency list in the repo < 1335922683 718698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it hasn't been tested on OS X for several years < 1335922688 247613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1335922704 974821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of Planar and whatever the default AI is called are most likely to fail less :) < 1335922707 627862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or fail more entertainingly < 1335922767 38195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should try to get Demo working first before doing anything else < 1335922779 129614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but TAEB won't reach the point the AI is called anyway, if you run it on a Crawl server < 1335922798 754480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, the time vs. fun assessment is rapidly going in the wrong direction :) < 1335922815 892057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write a nethack bot that can cope with absolutely any screen it gets < 1335922838 697069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the /correct/ behaviour upon encountering a screen never generated by NetHack is calling a human for help < 1335922865 304494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's marching on cluelessly < 1335922872 715695 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ais523: Ooh, the NetHack AI is cool. < 1335922885 587978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: referring to the post I linked? < 1335922891 50410 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335922892 152170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: "the" is possibly a bad article; there are two major frameworks and three major AIs < 1335922915 999883 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/planar/ < 1335922917 901865 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have any of them won < 1335922925 584039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: TAEB::AI::PLanar is mine < 1335922929 416082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: none of them have got near < 1335922937 418948 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d love to see a video capture of that in action. < 1335922946 672242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: NAO has ttyrecs < 1335922951 685612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :autorobin's got much further in Crawl than any of the NetHack AIs have in NetHack < 1335922955 280117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably request one for one of the TVs < 1335922959 17734 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1335922970 37247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the reason is that Crawl is a much more straightforward game than NetHack < 1335922975 364255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lot more about not typoing than about actual thought < 1335922978 264427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack has a lot more special cases than Crawl < 1335922979 17463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it suits bots quite well < 1335922992 238709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the kinds of spoilers it has are the kinds that bots can't learn, IMO < 1335922994 903038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Crawl has felids, and Trog < 1335923002 309858 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is nethack about actual thought < 1335923006 511401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335923012 588410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about looking up spoilers < 1335923018 986316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FeBe is a really really good combo for bots, because it's balanced and yet incapable of using most items and all spells < 1335923021 121456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl is about looking up monster stats < 1335923023 639164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it is sometimes, but only if you play badly < 1335923025 54788 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are any roguelikes about actual thought :( < 1335923030 410949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rogue is about not dying < 1335923033 810645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Shiren? < 1335923042 779791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's commercial < 1335923042 959148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADOM is about dying < 1335923057 386685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf Fortress is about dwarfs in a fortress < 1335923060 222794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :robotfindskitten is about finding kitten < 1335923061 463615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ADOM is about crazy complicated triggers that have effects hundreds of thousands of turns later < 1335923080 377634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADOM is about ancient domains of mystery < 1335923090 435567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl needs monster spoilers or you die; ADOM needs plot spoilers or you find you've made the game effectively unwinnable a week later < 1335923095 86864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack is about hacking the net < 1335923116 634358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it isn't, that's Uplink < 1335923143 415438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so what I will do, is upgrade all relevant modules, just as I recently upgraded Perl < 1335923145 618910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then try to run TAEB < 1335923165 987071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then bug #moose (or ##moose perhaps) for help, if I can't fix the obvious problems myself < 1335923168 143012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for a bit derotting < 1335923178 810307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: should I try and write a Crawl bot? (N.B. there's a fair chance that if I do this I'll never go back to playing Crawl normally, which I enjoy < 1335923185 402885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway, I just committed dependencies.sh < 1335923196 323373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say get sick of Crawl first, /then/ write the bot < 1335923210 319076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my plan < 1335923214 583243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll even lend you Brute's source code if you like, so you can skip the fiddly parts like dgl login < 1335923226 496830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was going to do the Lua script thing < 1335923229 906203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since Crawl already has scripting hooks < 1335923240 89559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, OK < 1335923242 112731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then move to a standalone thing once it outgrows that < 1335923246 187013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had to ban autorobin, eventually < 1335923251 590866 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1335923252 652626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ban howso? < 1335923256 214481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it runs on the server, and it used 25% CPU < 1335923259 581282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: kindly ask people to stop running it < 1335923265 318309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great definition of ban < 1335923277 917517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: guess who's playing normal crawl < 1335923285 62277 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335923285 947136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: elliptic? < 1335923286 124295 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, where is SHOW_FLOW_AMOUNTS? < 1335923291 809365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes; also me < 1335923296 66026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: dunno, but don't bother turning it on < 1335923321 89870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't know if elliptic's actually playing, it's a guess < 1335923329 277795 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait, what? < 1335923333 719083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptic isn't playing < 1335923334 425513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you implied that you were quite strongly, so it /wouldn't/ be a guess < 1335923347 263202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has ais523 seen me playing crawl < 1335923352 916263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION logic < 1335923365 291589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy, a cursed amulet that I don't know what it is is around my neck < 1335923372 539644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it must be something really helpful < 1335923378 357553 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you put it on < 1335923386 165542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know it was cursed < 1335923403 165471 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amulets tend not to autoid < 1335923415 136254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never know, it might be helping me < 1335923431 702190 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it probably woulnd'nt help you at this point eithr < 1335923435 626111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much str for plate armour again < 1335923443 311548 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 < 1335923445 673071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1335923477 412819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lage < 1335923491 973076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should go light armour this time < 1335923539 937528 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335923545 961238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it was probably an amulet of get killed by terrence < 1335923554 170463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps I should make another serious attempt to win Crawl, because I feel I can't insult it properly unless I've actually won it < 1335923562 143307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I just know I'm going to end up hating it again < 1335923564 799124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than usual, I mean < 1335923580 742631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started playing so I could authoritatively dislike it < 1335923583 765108 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1335923591 971234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it takes a while < 1335923599 526002 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see my hate is justified because i've won < 1335923599 544097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's still the plan, it's just that the dislike is going to be less than my baseline level of dislike for roguelikes < 1335923601 817375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which wasn't what i was expecting < 1335923606 886701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: that still doesn't mean i'll like it) < 1335923624 923599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it irritates me less than nethack when i die at least < 1335923633 842013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335923636 703424 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335923642 938657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the other way round for me, but possibly because I'm better at not dying in NetHack < 1335923655 853134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I do die in NetHack, unless it's very early game it typically feels like my own fault, unlike in Crawl < 1335923665 337401 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Client Quit < 1335923671 544741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 99.99% of all my roguelike deaths are YASDs < 1335923685 910197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with nethack there's the spoiler element; with crawl it's my fault for blindly attacking $powerful_thing < 1335923692 694955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with nethack, it's "my fault" for not knowing $stupid_spoiler < 1335923696 592089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_that_would_have_saved_me < 1335923705 469740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this is why #nethack exists < 1335923715 15029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both death-by-not-reading-spoilers, but NetHack's are more annoying < 1335923728 242203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I want to play a roguelike, not IRC :) < 1335923787 957869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You could also have learned any of this by viewing the in-game item description." < 1335923792 209213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help, henzell is bullying me < 1335923814 193770 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1335923876 671427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335923892 757948 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1335923899 559748 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1335923902 582695 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335923905 337925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's the concern < 1335923925 97286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, you know what's annoying? when you see what seems like a meme in various places but it isn't on knowyourmeme.com and isn't turned up by a websearch on its name < 1335923947 307158 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it isn't a meme < 1335923957 684537 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what's annoying? < 1335923962 880700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: indeed, but in that case the coincidence is still annoying, and you still have no idea what people were referring to < 1335923965 119289 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The modern usage of the word "meme" on the Internet. < 1335923978 424155 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever came up with that ought to be removed. < 1335923982 387219 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, anyone, perhaps Gregor, know of any good free MIDI desynthesizers? // define "desynthesizer" < 1335923988 782331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: he does so several lines later < 1335923994 928167 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: something that takes synthesizer output and produces a MIDI file < 1335923999 207784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIDI synthesizer output, that is < 1335924002 925565 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1335924007 535596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the inverse operation of a MIDI synthesizer < 1335924008 163520 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :des yn the sizer < 1335924025 525332 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, all the ones I know of are truly awful. < 1335924039 531575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that might be the answer < 1335924048 403245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why doesn't nethack have tab? < 1335924051 591769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be any worse than scolily, the only one in the repositories, unless they actually contain malware or the like < 1335924054 779012 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fundamental problem is that distinguishing overtones from tones is infeasible, so you have a sensitivity parameter, and no sensitivity parameter ever works usefully. < 1335924057 33262 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What's tab? < 1335924061 518765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a key < 1335924070 254428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: oh, I came up with a cunning plan for that < 1335924080 969985 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NetHack has that key. < 1335924093 175395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tryocmyol sounds like a medicine. < 1335924098 237638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Tryocomyol. < 1335924119 937364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lowest frequency must be a tone, then overtones are multiples of that, the nth overtone tends to have an amplitude of 1/n or less compared to the fundamental, if it's more than that you have another tone < 1335924129 530204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't work on pulsetrains, but who uses those? < 1335924158 347682 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've used WAON (the site for which appears to have vanished), and would not recommend it. < 1335924165 855032 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, http://waon.sourceforge.net/ < 1335924167 662538 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, a site. < 1335924177 411446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: does it produce nonempty output? that's the problem I was having with scolily, that it wouldn't produce anything but a blank file < 1335924187 932606 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, well, it produces a MID, yes. < 1335924201 298080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that it took input only from the microphone, which was annoying < 1335924205 30073 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :waon has the lovely property that if you turn its sensitivity WAY down, you can produce a MIDI file from human speech that will render recognizable human speech. < 1335924216 841195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should make all species hunger work like ghoul hunger in Crawl. < 1335924224 317965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to figure out how to configure pulseaudio to copy the speaker output to the default input < 1335924228 247953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that's cool < 1335924231 969545 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what about mummy hunger < 1335924237 643115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that can stay how it is < 1335924240 534413 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, tab moves toward and/or attacks a visible monster? < 1335924249 886942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, it seems to also copy timing properties if you do that; if nothing's going to the speaker, anything trying to read from the microphone freezes, UNIX pipe style < 1335924267 559395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is brilliant but not if you're scolily and add a 4 second countdown from the microphone's timing source for no god reason < 1335924340 532897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wow, their Ubuntu package is built against /gutsy/ < 1335924343 752273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to recompile :) < 1335924376 435035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brace for Gregor Debian superiority < 1335924395 421669 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No package in Debian. < 1335924405 952487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no package in precise, either < 1335924409 65816 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which should mean that it's not worthwhile. < 1335924412 49833 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which it isn't ;) < 1335924415 907778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not surprising given that they're offering a gutsy package on their website < 1335924423 519890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well I'm going to try it anyway < 1335924441 490268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a /really/ good desynthesizer could probably reverse-engineer the soundfont < 1335924460 583283 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to get it just to remake some voice->midi->voice stuff, which is fun X-D < 1335924499 240330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_d - a scroll labeled TWAT ERACAPAC < 1335924502 214778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good scroll name < 1335924605 133418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why fftw depends on openmpi < 1335924637 113730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey, what god would you go with for GhMo? < 1335924646 767287 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XOM < 1335924658 37290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: needs a combat-character-oriented god; trog is out for obvious reasons < 1335924658 923325 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just play ghck, shachaf < 1335924659 392122 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The all-purpose god. < 1335924669 508129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, which obvious reasons? < 1335924671 563235 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help, what's a ghck < 1335924676 855867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: undead can't berserk < 1335924694 904310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog offers more than that, but ok :P < 1335924704 60735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's a serious nerf to lose one of his main abilities < 1335924726 503062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :makhleb would work; yred would work, if you prefer that playstyle, but is a bit more niche than makhleb < 1335924745 527074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lugonu would work but is hard to end up worshipping in the first place < 1335924753 810203 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I’ll play a bit of Lair. < 1335924769 160552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: watching (bigterm is still sinful) < 1335924776 644090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of gods won't accept you (fedhas, tso, ely, zin, beogh), which makes things easier < 1335924779 733354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if I wanted lugonu I could have gone GhAK < 1335924783 720253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, indeed < 1335924784 469299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is fun to pronounce) < 1335924788 152192 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want yred, just play ghdk; if you want lugonu, just play ghak < 1335924795 454772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1335924810 737560 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yred ally management is annoying < 1335924815 171520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: picking up a god at temple is often a good idea even if they're a starting god, because then you get benefits from a different background < 1335924826 597797 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to find the perfect soundfont to render this in X-D < 1335924828 735186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're planning to cast, you could go sif or veh < 1335924836 736796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those are bad ideas if you aren't casting < 1335924843 833772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not casting < 1335924848 818761 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: monk benefits "you get the piety you would have gotten if you had just started with the god" < 1335924868 620385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's quite a recent addition, so I forgot about it < 1335924881 630573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do monks have a better starting inventory than death knights, etc? < 1335924892 80299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, that'd be a big reason for mo over dk < 1335924911 197097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monk inventory is pretty plain < 1335924923 393977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you could also go nemelex, who is broken for all characters but needs both a lot of spoilers and a lot of patience to use correctly < 1335924935 761189 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/tmp/snd2mid2snd.ogg IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL < 1335924936 823182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy has told me about nemelex and now i never want to play nemelex < 1335924939 842068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they fixed that, in which case he's just bad as it was the main point < 1335924961 353728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lot of options not considered, at this point, given that I don't consider xom a serious choice < 1335924966 863388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Can I have that in MP3? < 1335924970 432558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, does ashenzari still exist? you could do that < 1335924972 936285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't play oggs here. :( < 1335924974 533719 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... no. < 1335924977 13505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ashenzari still exists, yes. < 1335924978 437202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: :'( < 1335924982 27906 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why? < 1335924982 944386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: WAV? < 1335924985 810050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because OS X. < 1335924999 232184 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/tmp/snd2mid2snd.mp3 < 1335925001 542398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ashenzari is intended to be a low-maintenance god needing not a lot of concentration from the player < 1335925004 195636 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox and Chrome both support ogg ;) < 1335925009 407542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I theoretically have Perian installed, but it doesn't work.) < 1335925012 236351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if they succeeded at that < 1335925030 725730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Not sure what your definition of recognisable speech is X-D < 1335925040 395972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I ask because I went for Makhleb previously. < 1335925040 575964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiku is a bad choice for a non-caster; and chei the devs can't decide how they actually want to work < 1335925043 961587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On monqy's recommendation.) < 1335925046 211625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the result that it changes a lot how he acts < 1335925056 935383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :makhleb was a good recommendation, but I'd say go ash if you want a change < 1335925057 998876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chei I can never take seriously because monqy laughed at it. < 1335925058 529712 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Recognizable /as/ speech. < 1335925091 145849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the problem with chei is that his fundamental idea is full of drawback, so they give amazing advantages to balance it out, and then nerf it whenever they look like they're actually helpful < 1335925092 918251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this goes in cycles < 1335925098 274653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1335925114 95211 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem is the advantages aren't actually amazing, sorry chei < 1335925116 429340 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1335925122 121051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: they /used/ to be, remember the ubernaga thing? < 1335925134 862767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1335925135 50890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably he's in a nerf phase at the moment, based on what you're saying < 1335925146 271074 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he hasn't really been buffed since then < 1335925154 959573 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"big nerf phase" < 1335925168 52728 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want more choices, there's okawaru, and uhh wow how am I forgetting everything < 1335925174 791561 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, elliott update < 1335925181 773776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oka's better for weapon-dependent characters < 1335925184 501954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im level 2 now < 1335925201 437751 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how so? sure you get weapon gifts but < 1335925224 427733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: and the other abilities are height and maste < 1335925233 618282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(used to be might and haste, but they mixed them up a bit) < 1335925234 504886 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean heroism and finesse < 1335925238 248485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I do :) < 1335925241 118146 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you do < 1335925241 686901 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335925242 220082 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1335925253 490681 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do those work better for weapons than unarmed?? < 1335925312 573006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finesse works badly on things with short delays, doesn't it? < 1335925382 356700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :height and maste :D < 1335925384 486719 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it halves attack delay. so minimum delay uc would go from what is it 5 to 3 < 1335925407 359189 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe they use random rounding there now < 1335925420 498304 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait no they wouldn't since isn't 3 the hard cap < 1335925423 156444 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it not < 1335925432 664649 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bad at memorys" < 1335925463 479010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's the cap I was talking about < 1335925498 691670 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i don't see it as a significant deterrent from going oka on unarmed < 1335925507 283128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, OK < 1335925510 840840 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unarmed is stronger than most weapons anyway < 1335925518 36612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: even with the aux nerfs? < 1335925526 63104 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they were nerfed recently? < 1335925546 125618 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it after being buffed < 1335925556 122512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they were buffed again? < 1335925558 955138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1335925561 320510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking about the nerf before that < 1335925569 473035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this is common with all sorts of things in Crawl < 1335925586 300024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heavy armour is the most famous, it was buffed and nerfed on alternate releases for five releases, possibly more < 1335925596 353058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meph is a bit of an exception, it only ever gets nerfed < 1335925619 426101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : not enough < 1335925619 784031 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternate releases? < 1335925652 928107 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it nerfed in 0.6, buffed slightly in 0.7, buffed greatly in 0.8, maybe nerfed a bit in 0.9, i forget what happened in 0.10, 0.11 < 1335925652 946289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nerf then buff then nerf then buff then… < 1335925665 520206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, perhaps I'm misremembering slightly < 1335925672 614725 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't around for 0.5 < 1335925679 809663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.5 it was easily the best build there < 1335925687 368659 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what I understand < 1335925689 340434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDFi was the "win easily" combo recommended for beginners < 1335925694 949979 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was a joke or something in 0.6 < 1335925700 480183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You can't say brb and then not tell me when you start again! < 1335925720 291914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: /were/ you right back? if not, you were just disobeying his admonition and it was your fault! < 1335925726 789924 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: “right” after i said it. < 1335925734 175098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone tells you to be right back, you should be right back! < 1335925740 359346 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps 5–10 10 seconds. < 1335925756 359719 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, more likely 10. < 1335925856 347822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1010 seconds < 1335925865 931018 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The time it took me to type ^SO/regenerationI#:wqp plus a few seconds of thinking time. < 1335925916 127009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking? In Crawl? < 1335925921 765202 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, in vi < 1335926044 118645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :126 stones? That's a many stone. < 1335926045 148121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb. < 1335926056 360030 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have some of them. < 1335926102 61299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bacque < 1335926103 852179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :klqwje < 1335926144 492700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, what do you mean Xom's not a serious option? :) < 1335926159 556528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: his main purpose is to throw extra randomness into your game < 1335926166 400795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which in practice, means extra deaths < 1335926173 931073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/randomness/[Ff]un/ < 1335926192 79903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xom helping you isn't very helpful as you can't rely on it, xom hurting you can be very hurtful as it can come at a time you really don't want it to < 1335926205 489120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: listen to this boring dude < 1335926211 340127 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, Xom best incorporates the DF motto < 1335926223 445763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, Xom is nothing like DF < 1335926232 96770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: boring and serious are similar concepts < 1335926241 515939 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Losing is Fun, I mean < 1335926242 607077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said he wasn't serious; rather, he's the frivolous option < 1335926246 475524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you want frivolity, great < 1335926249 176326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with DF, it's the combination of a bunch of perfectly normal, logical, and measured aspects into a gigantic clusterfuck that kills you < 1335926257 429600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with Xom, it's just Xom that kills you < 1335926282 977863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: haha, wow waon is bad < 1335926286 363869 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF is a sequel? < 1335926290 615776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes. < 1335926293 491807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like you said < 1335926298 133377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's /still/ not as bad as scolily < 1335926320 898539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The complete name of the game is Slaves to Armok: God of Blood, Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress. < 1335926327 639634 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's Chapter I? < 1335926335 488876 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or wait, were you joking < 1335926338 179504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Slaves to Armok: God of Blood; http://www.bay12games.com/armok/. < 1335926340 662254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I wasn't joking. < 1335926359 488033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an #esoteric log where fizzie quotes I-think-mooz talking about his experiences with it. < 1335926371 525031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shares the "excruciating detail about the state your various body parts are in" aspect with DF. < 1335926376 790085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a single-player 3D RPG-style thing. < 1335926381 612237 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D? < 1335926412 352709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1335926420 181017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gamasutra.com/db_area/images/feature/3549/armokky.jpg < 1335926443 844333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More screenshots: http://www.bay12games.com/armok/ascreens.html < 1335926472 64727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: In fact, Dwarf Fortress was a rather infamously vapourware sequel; it was announced in 2002 or so, and came out in 2006. < 1335926490 109324 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK < 1335926500 594606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Millionth_topic_pool#Video_games) < 1335926500 772572 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :letting it sink in? < 1335926514 279835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what monqy is talking about. < 1335926520 817857 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:41:30 < Sgeo> AFK < 1335926523 296773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: haha, WAON's output actually made timidity SIGABRT < 1335926525 958731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1335926545 806158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Spiders!!! < 1335926547 393605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do spiders < 1335926551 295251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO SPIDERS < 1335926556 500217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow SPIDERS < 1335926556 520116 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2S3P4I5D6E7R8S < 1335926559 153383 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Don't use timidity anyway, it is made of lame. < 1335926561 483776 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use fluidsynth. < 1335926561 841008 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do spiders < 1335926564 961306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow S P I D E R S < 1335926565 218673 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2S3 4P5 6I7 8D9 2E3 4R5 6S < 1335926567 663024 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: are you doing spiders < 1335926569 968520 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is also lame, but in different ways) < 1335926577 104966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: waon's documented as a reverse of timidity < 1335926581 827942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm round-tripping to see if it works < 1335926603 684357 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a rather silly way to document it X-D < 1335926626 934352 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :skeletonsskeletonsskeletons < 1335926728 959936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what they test WAON on < 1335926737 506781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely they've /noticed/ its output is unintelligible? < 1335926758 454529 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I think i’ll leave it for later. :-) < 1335926768 371954 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335926808 890165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Okay, then." --Crawl < 1335926810 814728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: See? < 1335926813 869424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even Crawl agree. < 1335926823 102375 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1335926835 903017 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbot ELIOT PRIDE < 1335926838 206867 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow ELIOT PRIDE < 1335926838 649609 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2E3L4I5O6T7 8P9R2I3D4E < 1335926840 92733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: btw, I just opened snd2mid2snd, you have a nicely musical voice < 1335926856 725765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't make out what you're /saying/, though < 1335926928 649625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessss < 1335926930 622499 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1335926931 172551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spiderssssssssss < 1335926933 827469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come onnnn < 1335926934 572179 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM TWILIGHT SPARKLE < 1335926936 208265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesssss < 1335926938 116391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, and I see what you mean about the competitors; one is commercial, runs only on Windows and Irix, and was last developed in 1998, and the other was hosted on geocities (and not archived by reocities) < 1335926938 296463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spidersssssss < 1335926948 75936 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moral of the story with enough peer pressure nything is possible < 1335926962 860289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote moral of the story with enough peer pressure nything is possible < 1335926965 933489 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :850) moral of the story with enough peer pressure nything is possible < 1335926993 924140 :coppro_!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1335927027 131883 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ais523: You have to try to listen to the incidental sound instead of the primary sound, if you focus on the actual pizz then it's unrecognizable, but if you listen for the resultant reverb, the voice is more noticeable. < 1335927046 696111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already did that. < 1335927062 18517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes good avant garde music, though. < 1335927071 448642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should get an orchestra to play it. < 1335927080 940481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, hmm, I wonder what it sounds like if you just track the fundamental < 1335927087 506974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, the lowest significant frequency < 1335927098 783856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that couldn't possibly be confused by overtones, although it probably gets confused by something else, like beats < 1335927131 745332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise, simply taking the strongest frequency would probably get you one of the melody lines < 1335927164 274157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then BLEND THEM TOGETHER < 1335927271 731256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Tell ion to go back to spiders. < 1335927273 862162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this problem is hard, but it can't be as hard as some of the solutions people are indicating is implying < 1335927416 361818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Tell ion to go back to spiders. :( < 1335927422 782381 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: spidres < 1335927442 133873 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You go to spiders. < 1335927446 678725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1335927448 486462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You go to spiders. < 1335927453 385809 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1335927455 666849 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You go to spiders. < 1335927456 212759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm nowhere near spiders. You are. < 1335927457 646647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go to spiders. < 1335927471 221997 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: when you find spiders, will you go to it? < 1335927476 706457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : B - the -2 pair of boots of Xom's Pride {rElec Str+2} (3 aum) < 1335927479 994283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xom's Pride indeed. < 1335927481 958337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Yes. < 1335927485 42367 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1335927490 324518 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yæy < 1335927515 588116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I might train up a bit first, though. < 1335927521 841238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Will you go back to them *sometime*? < 1335927541 967650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:58 spider nest[2/5]: Gear checklist: most importantly: rPois and or potions of curing; clarity is a big help against tarantellas; some ranged attack is a big help against orb spiders; escape items of course; with rPois there are plenty of corpses to eat, else bring food. < 1335927544 95531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checklists. Exciting. < 1335927555 657975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: s p i d e r s < 1335927652 147777 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m tempted to join Jiyva, but Trog would instakill me. :-( < 1335927654 944110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Convert to Jiyva. < 1335927658 785651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then go into the slime pits. < 1335927662 869523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then eat a spider. < 1335927670 774718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you just said you were tempted to. < 1335927672 44200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: C'mon. < 1335927673 644310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll protect you. < 1335927675 415741 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: instant retribution is gone < 1335927679 688353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're XL13. Big boy now. < 1335927682 154440 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Oh? < 1335927686 561925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: yeah < 1335927693 650712 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does Trog do then? < 1335927699 826173 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :waits before retributioning < 1335927700 358654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :grumbles; cries a bit < 1335927716 524355 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: "one way to find out" < 1335927729 512553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: he still instakills you, just a bit later < 1335927735 2999 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So instead of me knowing when he’ll attack it will be a surprise? That sounds much better. < 1335927749 897019 :cheater!~cheater@g230226101.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335927752 905790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, that sounds like fun. < 1335927753 795300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C'mon. < 1335927755 208711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Convert to Jiyva. < 1335927759 41314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The jellies will protect you. < 1335927766 213331 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would reading a spellbook cause retribution, or just lost of piety, or what? < 1335927771 382666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:02 trog wrath[1/4]: ABANDONMENT: 50 penance RETRIBUTION: 50% summoning abjurable, but berserking hostiles from (iron troll, deep troll, rock troll, troll, black bear, grizzly bear, stone giant, hill giant, ogre, two-headed ogre); 33% weakening effect (decay, STR loss, paralysis, slowing); 16% fire miscast. < 1335927773 201018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, that's not so bad. < 1335927818 356612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, ion. You won't go into the Spider Nest, won't convert to Jiyva... < 1335927821 358018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're so boring. < 1335927828 774072 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can give you your money back. < 1335927831 41993 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Xom is bored? < 1335927834 889411 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which other lair branch did you get < 1335927840 971131 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hi < 1335927841 855093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slime pits. < 1335927850 359753 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snake < 1335927852 675813 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: snake < 1335927853 924130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1335927854 359321 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Slime < 1335927859 314963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like how ion can type ^O and I can't. < 1335927875 881802 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1335927876 959491 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Remember what i said about Crawl’s architecture sucking? < 1335927883 64020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1335927885 814177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, mine is terminal architecture. < 1335927896 404466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now go to slime or spider or snake. Or convert to Jiyva. < 1335927900 195923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything of interest! < 1335927922 375684 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m still considering Jiyva. Too bad i can’t abjure. < 1335927923 47898 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when is lair not the epitome of interesting? yaey, green rats < 1335927941 228902 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Porcupines also! < 1335927962 483012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll pay you WHOLE MONEYS to Jiyva. < 1335928034 526989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: wut < 1335928040 906170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwwwwwwww what < 1335928045 336221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't quit just before something interesting happens. < 1335928057 118762 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m considering sleeping. < 1335928065 968769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335928074 36991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ion < 1335928074 508202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ion is Wed May 2 06:07:54 2012 < 1335928077 186734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be ridiculous. < 1335928080 258424 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: flipsidely, now you can do something interesting < 1335928089 645171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Do I ever do anything interesting? < 1335928103 519952 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1335928103 875469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just rebooted, timidity seemed to have got permanently screwed up in a way that survived me killing the process and restarting it < 1335928105 730752 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is playing as elliptic < 1335928109 544033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rebooting the computer worked < 1335928117 58498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: How did you discover my alt??? < 1335928117 767750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, I suspect Pulse is at fault < 1335928125 109891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*?!?! < 1335928148 359934 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick ellion < 1335928150 869360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptic is one of those people, like Adeon, that it's impossible for anyone else to convincingly pretend to be < 1335928178 331569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm good at convincingly pretending to people who can't be convincingly pretended to be! < 1335928181 697549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pretending to be < 1335928193 390943 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s trivial to pretend to be elliott. Behold: < 1335928194 527278 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can people convincingly pretend to be me < 1335928197 126366 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPIDERS < 1335928199 914715 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s p i d e r s < 1335928203 814309 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSPPIIDDEERRSS < 1335928212 915236 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hi elliott < 1335928230 834841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so let me read this android-ported-to-C# story on slashdot < 1335928243 146858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many possible troll and fanboy angles, it'll be fun seeing which one comes up first < 1335928278 344352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is there a max xl in crawl < 1335928281 888530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 27 < 1335928285 568988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so < 1335928287 364189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with 27? < 1335928304 152689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : arc number < 1335928309 966293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/kick ais523 < 1335928339 15871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first comment was about oracle, figures < 1335928394 508545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: shoudl i plh < 1335928395 926592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oapl < 1335928397 175369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plqy < 1335928398 245172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plwy < 1335928399 310285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ply < 1335928400 547901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aplye < 1335928402 613203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :play < 1335928404 501247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was real thpo < 1335928406 630578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1335928408 614646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :typos < 1335928418 14920 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what else is there 27 of? < 1335928419 799110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :second thread was about Microsoft patents < 1335928424 614387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dungeon levels < 1335928428 260893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: max skill levels, dungeon levels < 1335928434 1726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're aiming for 27 races, backgrounds, and gods < 1335928445 251720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even though this is probably a bad idea!) < 1335928449 148379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the races and backgrounds are selected by letters! < 1335928454 898236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll need to add another letter to the alphabet < 1335928467 70689 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :å < 1335928472 446550 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the "aiming" was a joke < 1335928505 38695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: capital A (they've gone over 26 backgrounds before now) < 1335928521 31044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :background is the yy in xxyy right < 1335928545 214441 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335928604 154809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im aplye < 1335928627 715559 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you decided a god < 1335928633 275544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does ashe give you again < 1335928635 580676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be either < 1335928635 598987 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can search for altar and stare at the list < 1335928638 982928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashe or thingy < 1335928642 95224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ashenzari gives information < 1335928646 71003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and likes you to wear cursed stuff < 1335928657 340210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Likes when you wear cursed gear" what < 1335928682 67063 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Drink the potion of mutation. < 1335928689 410047 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashenzari's the god who nailed himself to the sky < 1335928698 899865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: going to < 1335928699 466858 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, crap. Your race is wrong. –ion, the racist < 1335928711 553082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, there's an argument over the pronunciation of "C#", I didn't expect /that/ < 1335928712 832464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1335928717 963338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't do anything for me < 1335928719 915641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awsum < 1335928720 93716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot there were flame wars /within/ the communities too… < 1335928727 795393 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Haha < 1335928750 895007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok you pick ashe or thingy < 1335928751 921434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may be the first submission I've read for a while with /no/ insightful unpredictable comments < 1335928758 177370 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whats thingy < 1335928763 585206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhh < 1335928764 116877 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and which gods have you seeen < 1335928765 181016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :makhleb < 1335928778 200360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already narrowed them down before?? < 1335928779 146771 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^Faltar since you can't ^O < 1335928779 463244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt i < 1335928784 252103 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :# in Finnish is informally risuaita, which translates to stick fence. < 1335928788 483283 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :C stick fence. < 1335928793 634719 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xom < 1335928835 524760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, monqy < 1335928838 963286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the curse thing seems uhhh < 1335928841 629701 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can try all of them across different games < 1335928841 991494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : What do you mean by "you have to run Windows underneath Linux anyway"? < 1335928843 543868 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vacuuming the dungeon for Nemelex might be fun for a while. < 1335928848 394633 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ha < 1335928848 574763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i know!! < 1335928849 112329 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ha < 1335928849 313890 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ha < 1335928850 173622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im deciding for < 1335928850 883543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game < 1335928860 560386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to call Poe's Law on that conversation, there is no other way to explain it in 2012 < 1335928861 428947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the curse thing is weird < 1335928863 570461 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: flip a coin with as many sides as you require < 1335928873 79366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is the curse thing weird < 1335928891 996599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, and now an anti-C# thread < 1335928892 880615 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ashe was added only after I mostly stopped playing < 1335928902 13394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, dpeg wrote the post announcing them < 1335928905 929661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BET IT SUCKS < 1335928910 214263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpeg is the one who kicked ais523 right < 1335928921 555238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye6s < 1335928927 132795 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and me < 1335928937 38358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fun fact: I typoed "ye6s", then corrected it to "yes", then decided to put the original typo back in) < 1335928942 505492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do'nt know why, maybe I'm tired) < 1335928950 614660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye6s < 1335928959 361869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: which god you pick :'( < 1335928968 330033 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chei < 1335928974 31521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!! < 1335928974 733993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of < 1335928975 262523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those two < 1335928982 386736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashe and thingy < 1335928983 130154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :makhleb < 1335929006 973722 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:41:46 < elliptic> ghoul of chei is pretty good, yes < 1335929014 677831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and more fun facts: Java is 1.5 times slower than C, and C# is 7 times faster than Java < 1335929017 846460 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, even elliptic approves of ghoul of chei < 1335929021 698517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a feeling that these facts do not connect with each other well < 1335929023 297348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was that < 1335929027 920407 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earlier today < 1335929034 25100 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than 3 hours ago < 1335929034 706036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1335929035 72587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335929037 149170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suspects conveniently selected benchmarks < 1335929037 682591 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely his opinion hasn't changed < 1335929042 327939 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chei can be fun for a while, too. < 1335929050 859293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there is at least a 40% chance elliptic was trolling when he said that < 1335929052 628666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: please tell ajzaff about preview... < 1335929058 606090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I suspected < 1335929069 62949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: come onnnn ashe or makh < 1335929072 707323 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either < 1335929076 83390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335929077 498960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which :( < 1335929078 30728 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't make me choose!!!! < 1335929090 33866 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make someone else choose < 1335929094 708081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335929095 412058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1335929102 707227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i phone a friend < 1335929108 555148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335929126 595988 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashenzari < 1335929132 626129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the friend can't be an RNG though < 1335929135 468712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be human < 1335929138 830109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least sentient < 1335929154 911978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK I told him < 1335929161 471896 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :NASA really knows graphic design. Those images are so pretty. http://colorusage.arc.nasa.gov/bkg_1.php < 1335929166 367980 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ashenzari < 1335929171 51231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can phone me, and I'll say ash < 1335929175 832067 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ashenzari < 1335929185 255286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok fine butthat was totally cheating < 1335929187 555988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...butt hat < 1335929202 701228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i regret this already < 1335929203 590368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1335929216 568625 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost asked "ashenzari or makhleb for ghmo of chei" then corrected it then almost uncorrected it < 1335929224 874382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335929241 364306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :appending "of chei" to anything makes it better < 1335929247 625312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't sacrifice corpses for ashey? < 1335929251 605174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1335929267 270462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:26:42 < elliott> i regret this already < 1335929270 634683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if leather armour of magic resistance is better than a +0 robe < 1335929272 61685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :next game go chei to cleanse your soul < 1335929303 720807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by "i wonder if" i mean "hey monqy, is") < 1335929309 612671 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335929309 967721 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1335929313 686529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno ! < 1335929324 15425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey ais523, is < 1335929324 327826 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going armoures or what < 1335929324 895405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I read that as "hey, monqy is" < 1335929327 199690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes the sentence better < 1335929336 57754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im not sure "maybe light armoure?" < 1335929336 947915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the ping on me, the previous of your lines < 1335929339 419856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1335929345 689858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what the light armour progression is < 1335929350 927654 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do JOIN :#esoteric < 1335929373 467161 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"robe -> spells -> thanks for going light armoures" < 1335929375 950505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Reinu < 1335929379 654641 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reinu: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1335929382 19045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not spells!! im not doing spells < 1335929385 597520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there like < 1335929387 905351 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not heavy it up!!! < 1335929390 303856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dragon plate things or something < 1335929396 117096 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, medium armoures < 1335929396 485292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine i'll heavy it up i hate this plate armour here but < 1335929405 168366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reinu: also this channel isn't actually about crawl I just happen to be playing crawl sorry < 1335929412 140473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh by "i hate" i mean "i have" < 1335929421 567695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why not move the conversation to #nethack-offtopic? < 1335929429 42773 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1335929432 528575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, the -offtopic channel for some arbitrary large channel < 1335929440 191493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not move it to #ubuntu? < 1335929449 17259 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not move it to ##crawl-dev < 1335929449 35376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they won't notice it < 1335929450 423049 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The -offtopic channel of #haskell-blah for instance. < 1335929461 719475 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-blah-blah < 1335929476 773740 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello guys < 1335929477 596026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, sose < 1335929478 855111 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, #haskell < 1335929482 560496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by sose I mean Reinu < 1335929487 526449 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi reinu < 1335929491 251537 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heinu < 1335929497 901903 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the offtopic channel of #haskell is #esoteric < 1335929508 176107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's surprisingly accurate sometimes < 1335929510 172135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Reinu btw < 1335929524 624917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks if #esoteric-offtopic still exists < 1335929534 925823 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool my nickname got a nickname < 1335929542 210660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1335929543 587828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does menkaure go upstairs? < 1335929547 577048 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335929556 965940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i mean, if it's not next to me < 1335929559 975190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess probably not < 1335929580 125277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this channel is currently silly and offtopic because the people in it are tired, rather than silly and offtopic because it's usually like that < 1335929605 874515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not tired < 1335929608 920704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is monqy tired? < 1335929609 555969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which channel is this again < 1335929613 144056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's tired? not me < 1335929615 624268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is always silly and offtopic < 1335929625 376671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Ashenzari no longer supports your skills. < 1335929626 298762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1335929634 837099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gain piety for exploreing < 1335929642 296483 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good thing actually < 1335929649 32812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow menkaure was a pushover < 1335929660 277066 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to ghmo "have a nice day" < 1335929666 503512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: menkaure is like sigmund, a pushover except when he kills you at random < 1335929722 679217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reinu: I'm normally happy to carry on an ontopic conversation if someone else starts it, though, as long as I can vaguely understand what it's about < 1335929746 283365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is the official defender of topicality < 1335929768 552583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like being the official wedding priest at a satanist orgy < 1335929768 947454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a losing battle < 1335929770 157440 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the oficial topic of this channel? < 1335929774 894299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric programming languages < 1335929777 599238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:29 Reinu: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1335929796 563304 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh tanks < 1335929801 48084 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks* < 1335929805 623185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we finally discovered what the appropriate channel for the other sort of esotericisim was quite recently, after years of looking < 1335929814 618516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so that we could send people who were in the wrong place there) < 1335929826 422031 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha it seems i come in a good time < 1335929832 306980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1335929835 158182 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1335929851 365949 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it < 1335929879 490971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, clearly we need an esoterica-based esolang < 1335929887 549672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to really confuse people as to which channel is which < 1335929928 972698 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do PRIVMSG #esoteric :weren't you looking the other channel to guide people there why would you like to confuse them now? < 1335929951 22354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we didn't look for it, someone else stumbled across it < 1335929963 294453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you help the newbies and confuse the regulars < 1335929966 148252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1335929971 387671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a regular and I'm confused, that's a start < 1335930030 541760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: meanwhile, john carmack answers a Stack Exchange question about a tweet he made < 1335930038 15650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1335930042 811454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it a serious answer or a troll answer? < 1335930045 859114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :serious < 1335930046 34961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be awesome either way < 1335930048 516504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://superuser.com/questions/419070/transatlantic-ping-faster-than-sending-a-pixel-to-the-screen < 1335930198 710139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, it's /both/ < 1335930258 632960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :serious answer for their audience, and trolling Sony a little < 1335930343 321553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: 18 str for plate armour right < 1335930411 694520 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335930515 280455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I don't autopickup remove curse any more < 1335930522 48616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1335930575 657902 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-250-220.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335930594 530835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1335930595 815218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ashe < 1335930596 775903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1335930597 560901 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-211-74.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1335930650 949163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, rpois < 1335930686 422321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh yeah, does ashe give me any abilities? < 1335930708 639603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrying, reskilling < 1335930738 460556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so nothing combat-wise < 1335930754 252789 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey, meph < 1335930755 874528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I could learn blink *and* mephitic cloud! < 1335930765 229134 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink isn't so bad < 1335930811 578148 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :controlled blink, however < 1335930816 716619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, isn't that what blink is? < 1335930820 31747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335930822 896606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1335930838 521422 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink is more like lugonu's bend space < 1335930851 346535 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but without hp loss etc etc < 1335930853 646540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, a chei altar! < 1335930867 803258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good thing i was < 1335930870 636772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1335930871 342176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :patient < 1335930875 822010 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335930876 347312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink has a random target < 1335930880 888694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means it only saves you some of the time < 1335930883 35131 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to be not here for a bit but i'll be back sometime < 1335930887 298759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you ruined monqy's haing!!! < 1335930888 390681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1335930889 624887 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Tue May 1 20:54:48 2012 < 1335930894 827819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy 20:54:48 < 1335930900 951169 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy < 1335930902 246391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so long as I don't ruin his hiing < 1335930910 925434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: shachaf did that < 1335930922 953476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ogres annoy me < 1335930924 772126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want more HP < 1335930933 105630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fighting skill *does* give you HP, right? < 1335930969 892951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it used to; then they either changed it so that it was the only thing that mattered or so that it didn't matter, I can't remember which < 1335930977 371324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1335930984 696684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a huge debate about fighting being so much better than all the other skills < 1335930998 977920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that reskilling was broken as a result because people would just dump everything into fighting < 1335931004 646733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't remember how it was resolved < 1335931056 754523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, I have +2 plate armour < 1335931228 58947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: gastronok is scary right < 1335931229 366468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:00 guru wisdom[3/24]: gastronok is like a titan but with less speed and lightning and more spammals < 1335931231 862176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, monqy < 1335931234 22412 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, monqy update bluh bluh < 1335931269 582412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm XL 9 and have chain mail, helmet, pair of boots, cloak, and unarmed combat at level 11.3 < 1335931273 185775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I run away from gastronok? < 1335931277 394041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a convenient upstairs < 1335931295 317111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you should < 1335931303 955481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can't kill him at range, and you probably can't < 1335931307 13393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I bother closing the door on the way? < 1335931310 105667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear he can open them < 1335931322 196853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't waste any time if you do < 1335931326 577843 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION opens eliot’s Crawl and sees Gastronok. Nice. < 1335931328 695939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably even door-kite him, but that's ridiculous < 1335931338 111983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: "elliott" isn't spelt like that < 1335931343 897490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's door-kiting < 1335931354 49915 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliot: How are you spelt? < 1335931356 491746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: when you repeatedly close a door as a monster repeatedly tries to open it < 1335931373 620019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally the monster wins due to speed randomization, but gastronok is pretty slow < 1335931376 174495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just a bit worried that I'll run into him again when exploring the level < 1335931376 688297 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t think that technique is reliable anymore since there’s some randomness in the movement times of characters. < 1335931382 965426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's far down enough taht I'd rather not just skip the level entirely < 1335931384 557572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I have an urge to call an esolang "Elliot" < 1335931385 972231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that < 1335931405 826831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gastronok's slow, you can just run away whenever he shows up < 1335931419 699766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he casts spells! < 1335931426 67522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, should I run away to the upstairs or just to another part of the level? < 1335931463 314030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just go to another part of the level, but then I'm not very good at Crawl < 1335931471 43464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would ion do? he's probably worse < 1335931471 587116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't normally run as far as I should < 1335931492 557108 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1335931494 243012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, I died to a centaur < 1335931502 811749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who gives those bastards that kind of gera? < 1335931504 51831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gear < 1335931517 290013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need nerfing < 1335931575 700517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaurs are a common monster to complain about < 1335931601 478697 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next time don’t stay in the range where they can shoot stuff at you. If you can’t get outside that range quickly, melee them. < 1335931604 355372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the usual solution is to use spells (specifically, rmsl and later dmsl) in order to take the edge off centaur-type monsters, to the extent that they are arguably balanced against a player's missile repulsion < 1335931610 940604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you don't have the appropriate spells, sucks to be you < 1335931614 52378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I was trying to get out of the way; and then trying to melee it < 1335931630 913936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not NetHack, you can't dodge projectiles by avoiding the compass directions < 1335931648 284746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think they should just make them start appearing later, and keep the difficulty the same < 1335931656 885711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you'd have enough HP to offset their power < 1335931664 454312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I would die less < 1335931665 630233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good < 1335931666 688241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1335931669 771743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HP doesn't work like that in Crawl < 1335931678 945174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335931684 860794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that monsters scale much faster than it does < 1335931719 249221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Should I aplye again? < 1335931979 526997 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1335931991 862050 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen hi < 1335931996 719134 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​41 ++++++++[>+++++++++++++>+>><<<<-]>.+.>++. [311] < 1335932011 64074 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps < 1335932011 243550 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: about acro aol austro bc bct bf2c bfbignum brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes cat chaos chiqrsx9p choo cmd cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird elmer fudd glogbot_ignore google graph hello helloworld id inc insanetemp jethro kraut lperl lsh map monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq ping pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python python2 redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 ruby_ sadbf sanetemp sfedeesh sffed < 1335932027 183106 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :who deleted my interpreter! < 1335932045 328470 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show ruby_ < 1335932045 681551 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh ruby < 1335932099 305741 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ruby_ print "hi" < 1335932099 831402 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.30313: line 1: ruby: command not found < 1335932313 334561 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1335932351 758042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Aplyeing. < 1335932378 358921 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wahthicng < 1335932429 695425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1335932431 590098 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do it!@ < 1335932442 829964 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1335932449 762962 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boots suck. < 1335932459 714344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't fathom why. < 1335932654 902396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is +2 ring mail better than +0 scale mail? < 1335932662 54392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scale mail being one better than ring mail in general. < 1335932664 316043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can never tell. < 1335932674 709040 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at your AC and EV < 1335932682 954591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do that again :( < 1335932697 378989 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AC is more important for a fighter.) < 1335932716 834965 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see them in the default display. < 1335932722 455017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1335932729 446941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :8/8 vs. 7/7. Okay. < 1335932733 393932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lower EV is best, right? < 1335932740 307669 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Higher both is best. < 1335932743 196829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1335932743 731646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat. < 1335932754 500671 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But prefer AC as a fighter. < 1335932785 541641 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course there are other things that matter, too. Wear a plate mail with no armor skill and fighting will be difficult.) < 1335932863 628472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat! < 1335932893 736203 :Reinu!~Lag@tdev200-36.codetel.net.do QUIT : < 1335932933 470607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun. < 1335932957 513550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:29 grey rat[1/1]: A much more formidable foe than the plain rats, grey rats can kill in the midgame. If they get lucky. < 1335932962 609346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell how serious this entry is. < 1335932964 949913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I run away? < 1335932974 970220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I'll ask whoever it is that does monster info. < 1335933097 192927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's ion.) < 1335933140 332584 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no did you died < 1335933161 917449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1335933163 448323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I grey rat. < 1335933202 633725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS GREY RAT SCARY ICANT TELLE monqy < 1335933205 508906 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last game, I mean < 1335933207 375784 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grey rats aren’t that bad IIRC. < 1335933210 590502 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one where you died < 1335933215 223883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I died when I died. < 1335933216 710636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of centaur. < 1335933218 856845 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I wasn't around to save you, presumably < 1335933224 537301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Highlight: < 1335933229 275343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:00 monqy: gastronok is scary right < 1335933229 293749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:00 05:00 guru wisdom[3/24]: gastronok is like a titan but with less speed and lightning and more spammals < 1335933229 293975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:00 thanks, monqy < 1335933231 619973 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at it with x. It seems to say how bad the monster might be nowadays. < 1335933239 739332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I died even though you were around to save me, inside Henzell. :( < 1335933246 987823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: IS GREY RAT SCARY < 1335933249 860916 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nO < 1335933255 75829 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :grey rat is like rat < 1335933256 159368 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but grey < 1335933263 350039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DID HENZELL LIE TO ME < 1335933267 951003 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did henzell say < 1335933271 764828 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You died because you ran back and forth and back and forth within the c’s shooting range. :-P < 1335933272 892408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:29 05:29 grey rat[1/1]: A much more formidable foe than the plain rats, grey rats can kill in the midgame. If they get lucky. < 1335933282 802556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: IT WAS A DANCE OF DEATH < 1335933294 347121 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: henzell isn't always reliable, see {butterfly} < 1335933298 489152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You should fix that learndb entry. :( < 1335933305 849220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: That one's obviously joking. < 1335933309 66541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is less obviously so. :( < 1335933343 953378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a good quote overhyping grey rats before I edit {grey rat} < 1335933369 967348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG MY GREY RAT JUST KILLED EVERY MONSTER IN THE GAME AND THEN PERSONALLY STOLE THE ORB OF ZOT AND WON INSTEAD OF ME AND NOW I'M ITS PET INSTEAD < 1335933374 802863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuroerlwer cleome < 1335933385 53991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm wearing a helmet of clever < 1335933398 391152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: consider learndb "improved" < 1335933413 265273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: thanks < 1335933423 108838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot my quote though (please don't add my quote) < 1335933433 388661 :cheater!~cheater@g230226101.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335933447 61052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b - a +2 plate armour of magic resistance 1629 gold < 1335933448 342814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmmmmm < 1335933452 105593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should rob a bank and then buy that < 1335933457 291674 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plate of rC is better < 1335933464 339310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is crawl's shop system boring you can't even steal < 1335933473 185226 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MR is good too < 1335933480 629165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess MR is better if you already have enough rC < 1335933482 588615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just < 1335933485 530361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :add them both to my shopping list < 1335933486 593580 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for you rF would be best since you're ghoule < 1335933490 782799 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no don't get them boooth < 1335933494 208302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not going to < 1335933495 680937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shopping list < 1335933496 956596 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1335933497 626786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant remotely afford them < 1335933503 346619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they cost approximately their full price more than i can afford < 1335933506 717227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know < 1335933509 398589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i ever end up rich < 1335933523 236916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remind me to remove those if i find plate armour i like < 1335933530 11217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, neil < 1335933543 631875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's TeFe right < 1335933545 788796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don'tw ant to look stupid < 1335933547 717628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*don't want < 1335933562 586578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i don't actually know how to get dump with sequelle < 1335933569 824438 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tefe yes < 1335933581 531492 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use !log < 1335933587 498649 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!log is short hand for !lg with the -log argument < 1335933655 153388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1335933661 153471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looked harmless in the log < 1335933701 168711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure could use a scroll of make everything ok righ tnow < 1335933702 969337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*right now < 1335933713 290329 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you die < 1335933713 309344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it a potion < 1335933732 85264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :astonishingly, < 1335933732 470287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335933744 907442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuuuck orcs < 1335933752 398506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335933757 71471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm tough enough to just rush it with this hp < 1335933799 655731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help monqy < 1335933808 363365 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :who deleted my interpeeter? < 1335933815 286262 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1335933820 752317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has ranged < 1335933822 231329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wepon < 1335933824 195201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're rushing it hit . instead of j < 1335933826 477924 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh rang < 1335933832 62723 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1335933832 424267 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1335933836 726989 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have potiones < 1335933844 507471 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335933844 857161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yes" < 1335933847 98937 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhe < 1335933853 610300 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wande? < 1335933868 22862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"noe" < 1335933872 637092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"preemptive" < 1335933879 639409 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335933882 373386 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1335933887 522525 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you have < 1335933911 336519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meat < 1335933919 125143 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a bad idea < 1335933920 934397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh poisoned darts < 1335933926 28850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of rushing it i could < 1335933926 938985 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could throw a dart < 1335933928 356988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poison dart it < 1335933933 860547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it arrives and then < 1335933934 768698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :melee it < 1335933935 634845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully < 1335933937 187568 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sure < 1335933944 386620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neate < 1335933948 541742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankse monqy < 1335933953 17953 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can only have so many hand axes, and orcs are weak < 1335934029 694547 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :is dwarf fortress on android? < 1335934044 653923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1335934051 267564 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1335934059 186 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1335934061 788077 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh < 1335934063 244009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't like orc parties < 1335934063 736162 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to you < 1335934064 709182 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335934071 632261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, duvessa and dowan < 1335934106 420247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335934125 438316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fast are they again < 1335934165 276527 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal, until dowan hastes duvessa or duvessa berks because you killed dowan, or dowan hastes because you killed duvessa < 1335934178 35216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow uh < 1335934181 59322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why i said fast < 1335934182 114872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for < 1335934184 7308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :running away purposes < 1335934187 460800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :second question < 1335934188 692312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i run away < 1335934191 565729 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1335934198 228990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1335934209 479061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never had a problem with them, but maybe that's just me < 1335934213 939791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i have ?tele < 1335934220 706253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll try and kill them and < 1335934222 121372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tele quickly < 1335934224 179795 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you kill dowan first and flee from the berk it will time out and duvessa wont berk again < 1335934234 270146 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you kill duvessa first, dowan will be upgraded forever < 1335934240 26927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: fleeing berk sounds kinda hard < 1335934242 624508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm only xl6 though < 1335934250 230561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly my uc is 8.5 < 1335934255 49812 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: tele or carefully using stairs or meph or confuse etcetc < 1335934266 504272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well tele works but < 1335934269 785124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't a few turns of berk kill me < 1335934271 471887 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: by carefully I mean "take the stairs before duvessa gets next to you" < 1335934277 501740 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1335934279 489790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335934283 753813 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if you're real squishy < 1335934293 719348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's a downstairs right there < 1335934297 794224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad it'll be uh < 1335934302 56285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :inaccessible once i get fighting < 1335934314 955828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uurgh < 1335934318 938951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping dowan would come first < 1335934319 679232 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually they aren't that hard < 1335934328 883254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill < 1335934331 64929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lure dowan up the stairs < 1335934332 524875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does that not work < 1335934340 443989 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only works if you lure them both or one of thems dead < 1335934348 239181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335934357 107923 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one fun thing to do is enslave one of them and get them to kill the other < 1335934365 489689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lovely < 1335934369 90862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want them both to be able to fire at me right < 1335934370 334153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1335934373 380066 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'v heard stories of polymorphing them into slime creatures and getting them to merge < 1335934378 302859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really see how i could get to fighting dowan < 1335934381 276185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless i < 1335934388 106304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lured them both up the stairs and found a chokepoint and got lucky but < 1335934401 79108 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1335934415 34216 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to kill dowan first < 1335934452 70825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335934453 819902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335934457 434432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're squishier than i expected < 1335934458 815056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which getting them both almost dead then killing them both quicky is also a good plane < 1335934461 824360 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335934461 842654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i died to them once) < 1335934464 722948 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335934471 107838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i encountered them like < 1335934472 526325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :super early < 1335934484 904639 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on muck or what < 1335934492 90262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :might well have been, actually < 1335934500 763957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yum, elfe < 1335934548 618988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmh < 1335934553 51831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this might be ok if i train armour < 1335934564 917194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is EV 5 terrible < 1335934574 63596 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :train armour is a good idea < 1335934586 581692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap back for now and keep training armour? < 1335934588 253388 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want to use heavy armour if you don't train armour or it will just be awful < 1335934598 878041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then switch back when < 1335934600 652688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm armour < 1335934769 584210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1335934811 388653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, no meph < 1335934821 736825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh ooh oooooh < 1335934835 699210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :armour or jewellery maybe??? < 1335934838 362786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which should i acquire < 1335934883 860856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jewellery used to be the only decent acquirement < 1335934889 431795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps armor acquirement has been fixed soon < 1335934895 139661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*since < 1335934896 41047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: has armour acquirement been fixed soon < 1335934897 978381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: *armour < 1335934906 405297 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1335934907 631032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, Crawl has armour, NetHack has armor < 1335934914 480595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: acquirement < 1335934916 919985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :armour or jewellery < 1335934918 866872 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was broken about it < 1335934921 370476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335934995 257165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what was borkne ambout it :( < 1335934998 810767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*broken about < 1335935017 347345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ask ##crawl about acq; im not really aware of its current state < 1335935026 27353 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than misc is laughable and that's why you should acquire misc < 1335935036 467053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what you ended up acquiring sucked < 1335935045 344300 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that always happens < 1335935048 557521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:03 acquirement[2/3]: Q: What should I acquire? A: Wand. Or armour, or gold. Or, in rare cases, staff or jewellery. Or, in really rare cases, like you decided to do abyss with no food, food. < 1335935053 193013 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's one of acquirement's design goals < 1335935062 821800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335935066 703571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1335935067 234628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gloves < 1335935071 808582 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1335935072 518757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I guess armour, then, because presumably it's been buffed if it's mentioned as a good potion < 1335935075 180447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so glad i took 10 minutes to make that decision < 1335935080 553526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are they /good/ cloves/ < 1335935091 735495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-2 < 1335935094 572910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335935096 127286 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on a ghoul no less < 1335935111 217059 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like you just got crawl dev'd < 1335935115 799353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1335935117 581028 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1335935120 586273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1335935160 176041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh yeah what level should i train armour to before spliting < 1335935161 597725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*splinting < 1335935170 712670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1335935171 809422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :electric eel < 1335935175 395114 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd personally just put the splint on and train armour < 1335935182 565453 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it lowers my ac or something < 1335935185 938861 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lazey" < 1335935197 142456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EV 9 to EV 6 is not very nice :( or is it < 1335935206 522045 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also got more ac!! < 1335935212 484689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1335935213 328682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1335935214 397640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :electric eel < 1335935216 831293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to set up an exclusion zone < 1335935227 130779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the key again < 1335935229 671743 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1335935264 885927 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Quit: R.I.P < 1335935280 974660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, autoexplore < 1335935307 483562 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jellyfish the famous pushover < 1335935309 259650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an orc wizard doing in water < 1335935311 820714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah but < 1335935313 867341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :electric eel in same pool < 1335935315 768814 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not being in water < 1335935342 281923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, i thought i had hw id'd < 1335935359 880565 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it not in \ < 1335935365 225650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is < 1335935366 501839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just < 1335935367 634218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't have any < 1335935378 266409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, centaur < 1335935406 687962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335935408 656473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that centaur doing < 1335935411 881883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it trapped? < 1335935434 934360 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaurs can't over water < 1335935437 807198 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean < 1335935439 932628 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk on water < 1335935445 330366 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they have a +Lev weapon or something < 1335935451 203406 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can still shoot over water just fine < 1335935466 457957 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could confuse it < 1335935467 882974 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd drown < 1335935479 576024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goode idea < 1335935490 872830 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't die in the process < 1335935496 855778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i lost a lot of hp < 1335935506 654970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1335935507 724219 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fish hurt < 1335935520 683059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kidding < 1335935521 749560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with that < 1335935539 85825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i remove exclusion < 1335935606 147326 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1335935617 635366 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather, e will reduce its size, and then e again will remove it < 1335935621 801571 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then e again will place it < 1335935646 62958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1335935662 290698 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pink if the exclusiones there < 1335935668 211391 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hit pinks until they stop being pikn < 1335935677 404295 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use ^E to clear exclusions < 1335935703 940422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1335935714 428734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are jellyfish pushovers or < 1335935716 375437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you kiddinge me < 1335935724 301089 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jellyfish are indeed pushovers < 1335935775 510370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1335935776 395048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :electric < 1335935776 960719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eels < 1335935787 695761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should just skip this level < 1335935792 498751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1335935795 58923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the temple is on this level < 1335935814 388493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1335935818 190732 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much have you explored < 1335935819 180767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a few altars < 1335935836 4002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the stuff is < 1335935841 310328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hereabouts < 1335935851 136209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be a secret door in that thing at the top < 1335935865 931380 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the up and right of your cursore < 1335935889 108590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1335935903 787976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im fuckt < 1335935917 899047 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if ijyb has a gnasty wand < 1335935926 652337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :34 hp < 1335935929 862049 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1335935932 25792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335935936 979974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1335935947 11714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i misjudge how pushover things are because < 1335935951 716335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fight them at different levels each time < 1335936034 596608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fml < 1335936041 740493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1335936042 771838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck this level < 1335936062 220247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's oka like again < 1335936067 543743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 was all bad for ghoul < 1335936069 681731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but monqy was all wronge < 1335936104 301059 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally oka doesn't excite me but < 1335936109 217884 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe oka would excite you < 1335936120 520366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember a < 1335936123 749455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke about renaming oka to default < 1335936130 633552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"jokes affect my opinion of crawle things" < 1335936137 111242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hate ogres < 1335936147 659270 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't so bad at this point are they < 1335936152 243783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but < 1335936165 593699 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you found chei yet < 1335936166 833380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're still the only common thing that can put a huge splodge of red on my hp bar in a turn or two < 1335936176 360403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1335936177 993981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my EV's gone down < 1335936178 919133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1335936187 822148 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? it was at 6 las ti hcecked < 1335936190 199470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335936190 733603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1335936255 21161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TSOOOOOO < 1335936265 804489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sticks to snakes < 1335936268 299686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1335936347 335800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how my running away just < 1335936352 406207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pummelled me with arrows < 1335936395 205763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nO < 1335936397 681978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU CRAWL < 1335936424 527298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeh < 1335936428 124467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i survive a run to the > < 1335936464 89875 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you go around? < 1335936466 372973 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your xmap < 1335936470 485025 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is that temple < 1335936516 199824 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also to get to the > you'd have to go through some plants < 1335936520 738415 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which takes time < 1335936523 598110 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1335936527 218586 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go to temple < 1335936562 428205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't notice temple oops < 1335936577 868037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chei! < 1335936581 507136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335936668 518647 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xome < 1335936675 756231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :makh or ashe < 1335936695 291060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're alternating: makh < 1335936699 109435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're asheing: ashe < 1335936704 999460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335936708 894301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked how i didn't have to do anything for ashe < 1335936711 207310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1335936717 970476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe makh's fighting abilities matter to me more than see invis? < 1335936732 201406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what auto-iding can ashey do for me < 1335936738 843726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk stuff < 1335936781 634156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1335936784 919914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it id scrolls for me < 1335936827 957323 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know ashe stuff < 1335936836 98567 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask ##crawl < 1335936872 250054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okey < 1335936931 27941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does equipment include scrolls and potions < 1335936938 755212 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1335936943 575039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335937023 833723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : The runed arrow hits you! You blink. < 1335937025 430686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhh < 1335937031 131963 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dispersal < 1335937043 449315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hp is < 1335937044 19584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1335937101 209735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should downstairs < 1335937104 431996 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1335937129 797813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1335937131 577983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help :( < 1335937132 111138 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you really < 1335937133 378783 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw a dart < 1335937135 892081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes im < 1335937137 487616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of dumb < 1335937137 838575 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :read fog < 1335937146 333983 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh fine read fear < 1335937146 697687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next option < 1335937152 202937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uhhh < 1335937154 188085 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then get to the door < 1335937156 53223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i run up to it and melee it now < 1335937156 229773 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and close it < 1335937156 944275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335937168 615988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it fire arrows if it's fleeing < 1335937172 160183 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335937176 832024 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once it stops fleeing though yes < 1335937183 662269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1335937188 68379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it stop fleeing if i run up to it :( < 1335937200 381346 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fast so you won't be able to close distance like that until it stops fleeing anyway < 1335937207 420933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335937208 344603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335937208 702977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335937209 800871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i hadn't < 1335937213 490661 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :read fear again < 1335937213 509012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :accidentally prayed < 1335937221 718199 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1335937222 787474 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heal < 1335937232 131477 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :up < 1335937238 374495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1335937240 364111 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1335937240 725585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go ^? < 1335937247 263701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1335937251 866511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1335937256 725401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1335937257 472831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wa < 1335937257 645933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1335937257 825498 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :close < 1335937258 886069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :convenient < 1335937266 255374 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have chunks? < 1335937272 685226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :run to upstairs i guess? < 1335937273 990282 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uhhh < 1335937282 95936 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :running might be a ba didea < 1335937285 817137 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the centaur will find you < 1335937311 916806 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's fast < 1335937315 475616 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When he opens the door, maybe you can melee him. < 1335937322 94262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :36 hp < 1335937325 109840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i do have curing < 1335937328 279982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1335937328 806972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :curing < 1335937330 253984 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok :-\ < 1335937335 524443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do have might i guess < 1335937340 426122 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1335937344 187932 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quafe agility too < 1335937348 124503 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the dodg < 1335937349 264823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :curing then agility? < 1335937355 884180 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1335937365 924595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and might? < 1335937382 252154 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If i had to choose between dying to a shooting c and dying while meleeing a c, i’d try my luck with the latter one. < 1335937387 153312 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRINK ALL THE POTIONS < 1335937388 625419 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might isn't as important since by the time it matters you're already distyanceclosed < 1335937399 811974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but < 1335937402 159356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :46 hp so < 1335937410 46718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaurs can be pretty bad even in melee sometimes??? < 1335937412 356868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one seems to be < 1335937412 891201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tough < 1335937416 844805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it has that kind of weponry < 1335937418 793449 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok whatever if you aren't confident in your centaurkilling ability by now uquaff it < 1335937450 203109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fine < 1335937458 56386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess it wasn't necessary < 1335937466 156296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im picking up these arrows so that nobody else does < 1335937500 80747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man what a ringe < 1335937509 915656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey royale jele < 1335937522 463155 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost nothing is cursed. :-( < 1335937528 257556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i < 1335937529 887603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just became an ashey < 1335937542 301166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1335937652 403163 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When @.x where x is some melee monster, don’t move toward him, press dot and let him move one step toward you. You’ll get the first punch. < 1335937676 711346 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do that if x has a polearms < 1335937688 82224 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a whipe of reaching < 1335937689 504301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gourmande < 1335937694 965692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: yeah sometimes i just < 1335937696 737669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rush things though < 1335937698 473222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i hate them < 1335937701 303003 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gourmande on ghouls makes you pretend all chunks are rotten < 1335937708 138382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You feel a craving for the dungeon's cuisine. < 1335937708 846420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yume < 1335937728 953647 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be a good name for a restaurant. < 1335937737 880599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a bdsm dungeon < 1335937742 9503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just < 1335937744 692019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a regular dungeon i guess < 1335937746 677235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"either workse" < 1335937754 514876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, trolles < 1335937765 922151 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcdonalds ball and slide dungeon < 1335937771 148077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335937773 132586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335937774 862897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are trolls yellow < 1335937777 279853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they're scarey < 1335937786 379714 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the mlist? < 1335937793 852599 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't trust the mlist colours < 1335937797 797834 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a horrible addition < 1335937811 990113 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so misleading < 1335937831 877329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uugh < 1335937834 179312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll just < 1335937834 951594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :confuse it < 1335937838 363833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then beat the crap out of it < 1335937841 597906 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1335937847 311682 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Huh. I haven’t had any problems with the colors. I like them. < 1335937879 536505 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: most of the time it works, but in those cases you already know the difficulties of stuff at least as precisely as the mlist colours them < 1335937886 651780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what is it with the wandes on this floor < 1335937891 347946 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: but there are cases where it's way off < 1335937896 543659 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: like eyeballs and boggarts < 1335937906 167906 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: so you can't trust it if you don't know the difficulty of something already < 1335937909 234094 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: so it's useless < 1335937934 78981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are bo of beasts good < 1335937936 204249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*box < 1335937937 620302 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335937945 245837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:52 box of beasts[1/1]: Your own mobile petting zoo! Evoke to release a beast. If the evocation was unsuccessful, there is a 1 in 6 chance that the box will turn into a simple empty ebony casket. Succeeds (60 + evo)/100. Hostile: 1/(evo+5). Bat, hound, jackal, rat, ice beast, snake, yak, butterfly, water moccasin, crocodile, or hell hound (if not worshipping a good god). < 1335937948 805097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like fune thoughe!!! < 1335937952 615695 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure use it < 1335937970 198871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i wont because you said no < 1335937974 995042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's fine < 1335937975 524956 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :doooo it < 1335937977 185820 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :decide for yourself < 1335937979 137873 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it do it < 1335937981 975938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1335937983 678313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel like i am being < 1335937984 209587 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :using misc items is cool < 1335937988 25979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"trolle'd" < 1335937990 499672 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335937991 207550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that sounds like < 1335937992 309444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sarceasme < 1335938001 694345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you asked if it's good; the answer is no. should you use it? yes. < 1335938003 668516 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :særcæsme < 1335938014 142482 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did what? < 1335938021 410692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335938022 348960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have it now < 1335938024 610894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll use it on zot:5 < 1335938028 482321 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruined monqy's hiing? :-( < 1335938037 600359 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "is it true" < 1335938038 441319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me monqy laugh at the implication there please < 1335938051 918605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that one? < 1335938052 270697 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335938052 451126 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335938052 802548 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335938053 163382 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335938055 281693 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335938058 410670 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey < 1335938060 218603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what? < 1335938072 344164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1335938078 511929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335938079 205022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiing < 1335938081 838928 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amonqy: "did shachaf ruine your hiing" < 1335938089 868567 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Next time try a deep elf summoner. They’re fun in the beginning. < 1335938092 857377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quasit more like quashit < 1335938096 612657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying < 1335938100 276203 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I've been playing DESu! < 1335938107 407884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_p - a scroll labeled ZEODGH YTODONIT {tried} < 1335938113 835736 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I thought you didn't play crawl < 1335938115 231978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna make a pun here but < 1335938119 1589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't work < 1335938122 24971 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I play it on < 1335938123 521397 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :localhost < 1335938125 853321 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335938126 383298 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad < 1335938127 288911 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1335938128 920814 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont < 1335938136 251462 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl version 0.10.2 < 1335938137 219366 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on < 1335938137 562567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to tell me to hack and back them < 1335938138 257994 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :localhost < 1335938138 303354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1335938140 264045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hack and back < 1335938142 924312 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :839) hack and back? works on anything much slower than you at the cost of: guilt, hating yourself, me sending you the message "hi" am I also forbidden to cast mephitic cloud and cblink i will also send you "hi" if you: kite excessively, use mephitic cloud, -yes < 1335938166 209548 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hack and back what < 1335938172 142404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335938175 425848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you going to suggest < 1335938181 737028 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/r/t what? < 1335938192 808257 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you open the box of breasts yet? < 1335938212 808914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i thought you were upset about me whacking the goliath bettle < 1335938225 520596 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't watching < 1335938229 64690 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hack and back it :( < 1335938231 18754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335938233 355792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just whacked it < 1335938235 656591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you went no stop dont < 1335938237 292716 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whacking is fine < 1335938241 637267 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that was < 1335938243 447567 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to shachef < 1335938247 481714 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whacking is fine –monqy, 2012 < 1335938250 280569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for... playing on localhost? < 1335938254 92401 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shachef, paraphrased" < 1335938272 428706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335938274 375401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was nice < 1335938278 144057 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: draw a self protrait of me :'( < 1335938281 740217 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote i just whacked it whacking is fine < 1335938284 351784 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1335938292 756416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's `addquote < 1335938294 160860 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatsthecommand < 1335938306 939492 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i just whacked it whacking is fine < 1335938310 96055 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :851) i just whacked it whacking is fine < 1335938322 665813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that two spaces between the messages? < 1335938326 501394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335938327 641526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1335938340 697512 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two spaces = the greatest evile < 1335938348 364537 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :greateste < 1335938348 708946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neet, wand of digeing < 1335938363 341056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you look like, this is necessary for any good self portrait < 1335938388 82903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does shachaf know what self means < 1335938405 296235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :golly < 1335938406 718013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a spere trap < 1335938411 417461 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1335938411 910815 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh < 1335938418 778114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess ill < 1335938419 10138 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it meanse a portrait monqy draws of me < 1335938419 591485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shake it < 1335938434 315614 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: When you drew "sahchef, paraphrased" that was also a self portrait. < 1335938438 310889 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remembere? < 1335938441 82757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kobold of ely < 1335938453 537029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1335938457 28592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is all the shit in this dunjon < 1335938457 435410 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^O < 1335938483 180917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: can't < 1335938488 460250 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ < 1335938491 317307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1335938499 195420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1335938556 886770 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zombies art slowe. Hydras, not so slowe. < 1335938562 723916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1335938566 262447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1335938571 966565 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you have? < 1335938576 639606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1335938584 392859 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you in a pickle < 1335938588 327309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydra here < 1335938591 988275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rock troll zombie down there < 1335938639 756883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to see < 1335938640 646075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itemse < 1335938672 760675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help :( < 1335938708 888567 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can escape stuff by blinking. And you can try to confuse the hydra and blast it with fire for instance. < 1335938753 718064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i melee hydra < 1335938761 29882 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: draw a self protaraite of me ;'( < 1335938768 203410 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok < 1335938771 772350 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: proably not < 1335938773 752808 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1335938779 829620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i have glove < 1335938784 573499 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's on your screne < 1335938785 284576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335938786 345284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-2 globe < 1335938788 560754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :glove < 1335938791 160059 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent seeeen < 1335938804 435044 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldnt want to mele it < 1335938808 830424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1335938812 283934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do mele, definitely use glov < 1335938818 626850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i dont melee then?? :( < 1335938821 311662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :confuse?? fire?? < 1335938822 770534 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you do mele, soften it up from afar with wands, rather than charging it < 1335938826 292617 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you dont melee, run away < 1335938828 265416 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELCOME TO MELEE ISLAND < 1335938828 597111 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still wandering < 1335938831 434155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but < 1335938832 865578 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can skip the leve < 1335938833 963724 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1335938834 694750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i run downstairs then < 1335938837 195948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335938837 926266 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does crawle have melee island < 1335938840 121335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's that zombie < 1335938849 260761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there it is < 1335938851 987944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1335938853 617279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hits pretty hard < 1335938859 529734 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What’s wrong with your ^O? < 1335938866 30410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: entering it does nothing < 1335938890 145927 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do other ctrl commands work? < 1335938894 246192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335938897 176359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^O has some special terminal meaning < 1335938922 628973 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try telnetting to the server instead of sshing for shits and giggles. :-) < 1335938928 8673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do telnet to the server. < 1335938935 921512 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try sshing to the server instead of telnetting for shits and giggles. :-) < 1335938936 487531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does CDO even offer ssh? < 1335938952 752276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to be able to mosh to the server. :( < 1335938967 734478 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it offers ssh yes < 1335938972 512016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes, telnet on Mac OS X is blocking ^O" -- sigh. < 1335938981 367119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*o does it. < 1335938983 953435 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tel net to stop it < 1335938990 42304 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :net: stop blocking ^O < 1335939022 484852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335939027 701560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i recharge confusion or digging hmmm < 1335939039 586158 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have the most insane ssh setuppe. Get the private key from and log in using ssh -o IdentityFile=cao_key crawl@crawl.develz.org < 1335939046 490515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's CAO. < 1335939052 178720 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335939058 37325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They use the CAO key for CDO? < 1335939063 44057 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335939068 144178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :O kay. < 1335939125 906242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:11 scroll of amnesia[1/1]: Added in 0.8 along with the removal of the selective amnesia spell. Same rarity as enchant armour so expect around a dozen at zot. < 1335939128 67304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what does it *do*? < 1335939189 506237 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lets you forget a spell. < 1335939197 464465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on! < 1335939198 264595 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :.ssh/config: http://hpaste.org/67953 < 1335939200 414535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curse weapon is useless for me. :( < 1335939220 979308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:13 pressure plate[1/1]: A mystery trap whose function is defined in lua < 1335939221 688677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1335939230 103011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i steppe on it < 1335939240 362867 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, i’ve never seen one. < 1335939274 838933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: helpe < 1335939354 778526 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/iRne5Swh < 1335939360 663142 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a Underload -> Scala compiler for some reason... < 1335939360 833493 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what hapn < 1335939365 255595 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: helpe eliote < 1335939366 196283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: pressure plate trape < 1335939392 827744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i < 1335939393 973060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :steppe on it < 1335939395 74427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its mysterye < 1335939406 675903 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no, break the block under it. < 1335939411 986412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not mencretrft < 1335939414 998602 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1335939432 922971 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knocks the alcohol out of elliott  < 1335939437 741218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not alcohol < 1335939440 50384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its monqy influence < 1335939445 236456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335939447 228960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335939457 356790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't they build these things with chokepoints < 1335939497 115054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeh < 1335939505 907485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is this a volte thing < 1335939575 716208 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335939587 303006 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it used to be a bailey entry < 1335939592 37558 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but bailey went beyebye < 1335939596 814574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was bailey :( < 1335939598 685341 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it wasnt baile < 1335939601 201572 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wjho knows < 1335939608 772526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe monqy?? < 1335939647 873458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1335939650 851636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking fuck fuck fuck < 1335939655 827685 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you would be free to add a (really messy) underload compiler to the wiki page, right? < 1335939676 231087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just run up to it and kill it < 1335939678 525607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: that stuff generally goes in the file archive but sure (but it should probably go on a user page) < 1335939681 224133 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're way too afraid of lectirc eels < 1335939685 795628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: they hurte!!! < 1335939690 802518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1335939705 109827 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't /have/ a user page... < 1335939717 582113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwww no < 1335939722 383425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: what's your username < 1335939723 267876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just create < 1335939727 888763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :User:username/Underload to Scala compiler < 1335939728 781977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1335939731 833182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and link it from the Underload page < 1335939746 904679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on!!! < 1335939758 214876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaah < 1335939812 764569 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload#External_resources < 1335939819 212344 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only this for links... < 1335939847 691865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehh, I guess it can count as "external" < 1335939850 548131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could just put it in the file archive < 1335939867 246891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: since when are yaks kinda weak < 1335939892 61550 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since ghmo < 1335939939 266609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats ghmo got to do with yake < 1335939940 498547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1335939944 333236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff is starting to get scary again :( < 1335939952 755066 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is the file archive up for public uploading? >< < 1335939963 85021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: see http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/ < 1335939983 825373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaah < 1335939984 764134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bees < 1335940001 211780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1335940004 147662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I had poison resistance < 1335940016 157880 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do < 1335940019 98688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335940019 808122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghoul < 1335940028 428815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that was easy < 1335940032 858788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghouls are gr8 < 1335940092 694374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1335940095 10814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, autoexplore < 1335940143 69547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuugh < 1335940146 829444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking cyclos < 1335940149 47006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyclops < 1335940186 533404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: pickle time < 1335940195 354173 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1335940220 921849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll quaff curing and lumber over to the cyclops < 1335940226 985292 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh no < 1335940227 3451 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you teleport? < 1335940230 668849 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink? < 1335940237 387714 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLINK! < 1335940238 274714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can blonk < 1335940241 23982 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/shachaf.png < 1335940241 734480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are < 1335940243 519090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyclopses really scary < 1335940253 144484 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blink behind the oooooo and run away perhaps. < 1335940254 587301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: christ that's beautiful < 1335940256 325823 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg < 1335940268 245715 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: monqy's self portrait of me > your self portrait of me < 1335940270 134488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: dumb < 1335940279 792702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess ill escape downstairs < 1335940284 119623 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's even like french and stuff < 1335940289 418202 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paraphrasé < 1335940299 726999 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's a duck thing < 1335940301 803742 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a flower thing < 1335940338 843553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how scary are cyclopses < 1335940355 74849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine an ogre that throws rocks which are also ogres < 1335940363 730439 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, elliott has been updated < 1335940411 291149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1335940412 654006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im burden < 1335940422 550987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess nothing's likely to pick those up uhhh < 1335940424 853128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i sort by weight < 1335940445 7709 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do the ogre rocks throw rocks < 1335940447 7004 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ogres < 1335940487 352548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's uh < 1335940490 153405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up with my inventory weight < 1335940493 455882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not carrying anything super heavy?? < 1335940502 116697 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The flesh. < 1335940503 592133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except foode i guess < 1335940508 195801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill drop sheep < 1335940513 591019 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheeppe < 1335940528 965424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is troll hide good fo ranything < 1335940554 391849 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at its description. The short answer: probably not. < 1335940564 989219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm < 1335940567 122076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stiff and knobbly < 1335940569 426542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for anything < 1335940576 664641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1335940576 686880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose you could wear it if you really wanted to, although you probably want < 1335940576 705017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to enchant it into proper armour first. < 1335940578 259160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335940587 372803 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchanting it provides some regeneration IIRC. < 1335940605 667072 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it was at AC+4 or something like that. < 1335940643 948068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is UP with these branches < 1335940653 669336 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you already saw orc < 1335940655 180606 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you’re a lighte armoure guy, it myghte be usefulle. < 1335940659 512026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair is max depth 13 < 1335940659 531201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: huh?? < 1335940663 458754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not see orcish mines < 1335940666 327752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes you did < 1335940669 653103 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you saw the entry vault < 1335940671 999043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Search for what [Enter for "mines", or ? for help]? orcish mines < 1335940672 17127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Can't find anything matching that. < 1335940672 385165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it had an eel < 1335940676 641123 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh there and hit ^O < 1335940677 901586 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: check xmap < 1335940685 746589 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hit ^G now < 1335940687 226305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: as I said, asterisk o works < 1335940700 902559 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you didn't see the staircase but you saw the entry vault < 1335940706 355537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: which dlvl? < 1335940707 257462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be on your Xmap < 1335940709 54794 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget < 1335940718 566580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno how to find it with the Xmap < 1335940720 725911 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ < 1335940727 469622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also did you draw that duck it's beautiful < 1335940730 528867 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335940734 159122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i don't know what the entry vault looks like < 1335940753 54393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to be better at drawing but i'm so out of practice and my tablet is like weird so the pen thing moves faster horizontally than diagonally < 1335940757 199113 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :up again < 1335940760 919746 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;ll know what level it is < 1335940761 308225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you draw me a self-portrait :( < 1335940764 105075 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335940767 468013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok prepare for < 1335940769 605358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrollening < 1335940777 49270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it this < 1335940778 151552 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one < 1335940778 663359 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335940782 435599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well < 1335940783 352561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :level 6 < 1335940785 534064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll go there after lair < 1335940799 933333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this level has a bunch of centaurs < 1335940815 735509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335940815 951734 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ^ < 1335940816 91041 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of stack! < 1335940822 796050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor guy < 1335940832 903792 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like shachaf.png. < 1335940842 172486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: did you see shachef.png before it < 1335940845 958532 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335940853 712428 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf.png > shachef.png < 1335940863 943969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i get to choose which armour to curse < 1335940866 460305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335940871 131649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the splint i guess < 1335940872 270706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for now" < 1335940874 615171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1335940876 738393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im good enough to use plate now < 1335940877 954969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1335940887 799792 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheres shachef.png i don't have it < 1335940888 822902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: here: < 1335940894 856213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZDhvag/shachef.png < 1335940895 34232 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (a)S^ < 1335940895 52442 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ...out of stack! < 1335940909 133900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you too < 1335940930 458151 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad i don’t know the context for shachef, paraphrased. < 1335940936 63679 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (ACTION hugs elliott)S < 1335940936 199588 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs elliott < 1335940940 309769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: There is no context whatsoever. < 1335940958 506946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf has this logo thing that I crudely attempted to imitate, and someone said paraphrasing shachef or something at one point. < 1335940982 398553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Bonzi Buddy thing has no context except shachaf or someone mentioned it shortly before I started doing the self-portrait. < 1335940996 198531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bOOZE!!!! < 1335941016 263256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's a *single* potion of heal wounds? < 1335941081 249225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i dont want to be diseased < 1335941084 440653 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ＢＲＥＡＫＩＮＧ　ＮＥＷＳ http://www.macrumors.com/2012/04/23/next-generation-iphone-part-leaks-begin-with-home-buttons/ http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/01/claimed-iphone-5-sim-card-tray-appears-identical-to-iphone-4s/ < 1335941108 734450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: lmao < 1335941109 101677 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ghouls cant < 1335941110 969982 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: dont wory < 1335941124 692857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: man ghouls need nerfing or something < 1335941128 464483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're perfect < 1335941135 973321 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ＩＳ　ＴＨＡＴ　ＢＯＬＤ　ＦＵＬＬＷＩＤＴＨ　ＴＥＸＴ？！ < 1335941145 429046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1335941159 670428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not used to battles with hill giants not ending with me nearly dead < 1335941160 177887 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,6ＳＨＡＣＨＡＦ：　ＹＥＳ！ < 1335941186 798667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: so this thing is mephitic cloud: the monster < 1335941187 154117 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghouls don't have to worry about meph either < 1335941188 102624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must love it < 1335941196 867283 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you can use it to confuse the iguana < 1335941211 35695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor iguana < 1335941250 678753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1335941255 849897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what could it BE < 1335941295 269061 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: w°ah < 1335941309 778538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is that < 1335941311 755740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing < 1335941315 561991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the invisible annoying things < 1335941355 960767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is it that thing < 1335941381 143397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1335941400 613175 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was called an unseen horror. < 1335941414 784020 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably unseen horrore < 1335941435 593623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes help < 1335941441 623346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im losing hp < 1335941472 116614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1335941485 744901 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck, apple replaces round home button with rounded square < 1335941497 65357 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This changes everything. Again. < 1335941509 150435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: chokepoint it or something < 1335941522 514756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think there are any choke points < 1335941532 697132 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you see monqy's self-portrait of me? < 1335941537 34792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could go here but it'd just go around < 1335941540 173603 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was even better than elliott's. < 1335941540 399532 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335941570 577047 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet kmc wishes he had a self-portrait drawn by monqy. < 1335941581 137804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im getting a self-portrait drawn by monqy < 1335941587 352142 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/self/nude/ < 1335941589 211607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there < 1335941636 369537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1335941657 262564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1335941660 736932 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still **.... :-( < 1335941679 302592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: didnt find any curse stuff < 1335941679 867170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335941682 897049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should just tab spam these guys < 1335941688 284256 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you think you can melee them, go to the middle quickly. That’ll be better than letting them blast you from the distance. < 1335941699 696994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tab spam wins again < 1335941729 873080 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That worked, but you might have done the go-to-the-middle thing to get out of it with even more HP left. :-) < 1335941745 404956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bugger < 1335941746 650164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335941750 430803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i still have to worry about this guy at xl11 < 1335941801 77466 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at its description with x. I’m not sure how reliable that is, but i noticed it says something how bad the enemy is. < 1335941809 675088 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :x=v < 1335941872 413238 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The “He looks extremely dangerous” part. I have no idea whether your level affects it, though. < 1335941876 882302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:57 Gastronok (j) | Spd: 5 | Int: normal (starting) | HD: 20 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 2/1 | Dam: 40 | Fl: amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: magic(80), drown | Chunks: poison | XP: 2131 | Sp: airstrike (0-50), slow, swiftness, small mammals, cantrip. < 1335941877 951339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1335941883 219803 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, x=v is nicer than xhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhv < 1335941894 96149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically the HP and Dam parts < 1335941910 733752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill just run to the lair < 1335941946 172079 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335941955 352296 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hastronok probably wouldn't be too tough for your character < 1335941968 159472 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-250-220.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1335941968 339426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill train up in the lair first < 1335941972 194067 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure fine < 1335941973 470471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh when does the lair start getting scary again < 1335941976 532591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 right < 1335941996 90404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1335942034 521779 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi may 02 < 1335942054 67720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:00 black mamba[1/3]: Very fast snake that does a lot of damage and can inflict multiple levels of poisoning with one bite. Extremely dangerous, but susceptible to resistible magic, such as wands of paralysis, confusion, slowing, and disintegration. < 1335942055 138975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how < 1335942057 334978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"extremely dangerous" < 1335942059 116538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it shows in yellow < 1335942067 27054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's less dangerous with rPois though < 1335942146 587234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should train something else too. < 1335942166 119690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice door. < 1335942221 758862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>100 hp \o/ < 1335942222 265562 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1335942222 379263 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          |\ < 1335942270 806849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great place to run, griffon. < 1335942352 311377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I don't really need three wands of random effects. < 1335942395 183373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh. < 1335942417 861949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, 90 dam. < 1335942422 732823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Euhhh < 1335942435 292737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should run back up and face Gastronok. < 1335942508 130946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :( < 1335942510 813148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1335942511 916978 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Wed May 2 00:08:31 2012 < 1335942519 656739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy 00:08:31 < 1335942687 933449 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1335942692 646776 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1335942698 525988 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5headed isn't too bad either < 1335942702 371143 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have gloves you can probably take it < 1335942707 396823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but < 1335942708 995229 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ew < 1335942709 528711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 90 dam :( < 1335942711 883958 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1335942712 451349 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335942716 420355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:06 hydra (D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | Int: insect | HD: 13 | HP: 54-91 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | Fl: amphibious, regen | Res: magic(52), poison, drown | Chunks: poison+contam | XP: 1215. < 1335942717 110718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :each head checks your ac < 1335942721 305500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18*5 = 90 < 1335942721 833117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335942734 935572 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d18 - 1d19 (factoring in -1 from glov) < 1335942735 306904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the -2 is < 1335942736 375516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :problematic < 1335942739 930331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-2 frmo globe < 1335942741 228473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :velo < 1335942742 287292 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335942743 356194 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 -2 < 1335942745 309890 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric := -1 < 1335942748 955172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335942756 535228 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so really you're pretty darn safe vs hydra < 1335942763 650462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i take that back < 1335942771 849202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your calculations were in error < 1335942778 233062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, no HW? < 1335942784 177574 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blinkk? < 1335942808 804838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh can i < 1335942810 932059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at Xmap while blink < 1335942852 449420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how fast are hydrae? < 1335942861 920941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal speed except in water (then they're fast) < 1335942874 94169 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any better armour? < 1335942884 514445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have plate mail < 1335942889 712893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only +0 though < 1335942895 575845 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it improves your ac, use it < 1335942897 168566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my splint mail is +4 < 1335942899 146939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1335942900 253696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it would < 1335942903 130702 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may or may not improve your ac < 1335942908 479254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not going to experiment to find out in these conditions < 1335942912 159000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, blonked < 1335942916 533114 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well of course not right now < 1335942920 784961 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing armour would be certain death < 1335942926 843029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ill < 1335942928 955482 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WAS KILLED BY A HYDRA ONCE* < 1335942928 976730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :leg for the < < 1335942934 524581 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :* MANY TIMES < 1335942938 700930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bother to close door? < 1335943059 824130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: < 1335943067 512374 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335943105 749707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19/6 < 1335943108 6751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335943120 480311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i could remove curse to check if plate mail would help but < 1335943125 324388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashey < 1335943140 827554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was waiting until i got enchant armour scrolls to switch < 1335943162 202059 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335943179 529317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do hydrae heal < 1335943187 755662 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quickly, yes < 1335943190 717353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1335943201 725795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill go have fun with thingybob < 1335943219 454732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1335943220 880035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is lair < 1335943274 503967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:21 deep elf priest[1/1]: Notable abilities: Can smite, animate dead, die < 1335943277 201361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the die thing makes me think they're < 1335943279 457359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very stronge??? < 1335943335 805872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:22 deep elf priest (e) | Spd: 10 | Int: high (items) | HD: 5 | HP: 16-30 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 9 | Fl: evil | Res: magic(40) | Vul: holy | Chunks: contam | XP: 136 | Sp: pain (d10), cantrip, minor healing, smiting (7-17), twisted resurrection. < 1335943336 157637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335943432 83324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335943477 770733 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335943477 788895 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Changing host < 1335943477 789108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335943486 572285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: so uh < 1335943489 542048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :any hydrae suggestions < 1335943497 330683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are not playing in the latest version (33d826f) available! < 1335943497 508231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[T]ransfer your save to the latest version? < 1335943498 609469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaa < 1335943501 447020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what commits happened < 1335943532 622102 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1335943540 978280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"im updated" < 1335943545 475307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just < 1335943552 382364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydrae again and hope things don't go as badly as they did < 1335943561 191048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if they do i'll be fucked < 1335943631 967130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :auuugh < 1335943690 25778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: guess what :D :D :D :D :D: D: :D: D: < 1335943860 589673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :( < 1335943863 106877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: monqy isn't guessing < 1335943863 951877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ion < 1335943864 407705 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ion is Wed May 2 10:31:04 2012 < 1335943912 770487 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia < 1335943915 613498 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1335943915 631867 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1335943934 298104 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1335943934 464682 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1335943940 324641 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you dying < 1335943998 125816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335944048 821232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ;_; < 1335944054 429800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hippgriff is dying quickly so < 1335944058 892047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i MIGHT be able to just whack it but < 1335944063 367950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im scared < 1335944065 714768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i do have 3 curing < 1335944068 73787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(really need HW but uh) < 1335944078 303055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good < 1335944115 691165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydrae dealt with < 1335944229 185885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1335944322 463625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :regen \o/ < 1335944322 707596 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1335944322 825972 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       /^\ < 1335944415 291989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sjghdfkg < 1335944422 65354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: eight-headed is beyond my abilities right < 1335944504 611871 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :look behind you < 1335944509 195010 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a eight-headed hydra < 1335944543 637777 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ...A word starts with a glottal stop iff you use "an" instead of "a" in front of it. < 1335944549 78620 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad to have clarified it for you! < 1335944598 460166 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/eliot.png < 1335944608 870213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1335944609 968608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1335944617 376797 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg < 1335944622 652899 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wante one :'( < 1335944626 254020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wish that spellingof my name didnt make me crei(briados) :'( < 1335944633 22564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to set that as my background < 1335944712 893184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: so uhhh < 1335944715 886937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eight-headed hydra < 1335944717 165128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dangerous < 1335944717 883000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1335944723 800696 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as dangerous < 1335944724 419347 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as < 1335944725 651994 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you decide to take it on you'll want to soften it up with wands or something < 1335944729 134849 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EIGHT MILLION-headed hydra < 1335944734 926051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have wandes < 1335944739 248568 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have greater destruction and some decent invo skill? < 1335944747 147959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :greater destruction? i'm ashe < 1335944751 438453 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335944751 621950 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1335944752 854379 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashe < 1335944753 564799 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1335944756 437891 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wands then < 1335944756 614231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of < 1335944761 216744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish i was makh right now < 1335944763 341939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh ok < 1335944766 982806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill put on gloves first < 1335944773 639298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hokay < 1335944782 650026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh fire? fireball? flame? confusion? < 1335944790 3620 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire and fireball are probably the best for this guy < 1335944792 12264 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not flame < 1335944798 207953 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno about confusion < 1335944829 722371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't really do anything to it < 1335944833 357786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh there's no point retreating right < 1335944841 897917 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you dont want to die < 1335944846 342558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1335944847 939098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its fast < 1335944850 143586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because < 1335944854 970137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way out is through it or fungus < 1335944856 386740 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not fast < 1335944862 956346 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's not the only way out < 1335944869 717293 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a diagonal slott over there < 1335944875 603866 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :below the fungu < 1335944880 148010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1335944894 314433 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hope it doesn't get a doubel move < 1335944906 426994 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hope you don't do that < 1335944926 273783 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing < 1335944928 37439 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink out < 1335944929 633063 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1335944947 609561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im kind of an idiot < 1335944966 246887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335944970 733132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should go back to the dungeon < 1335944973 314194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1335944979 444739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not lair yet < 1335944984 220159 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1335945027 173154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:50 slime creature[1/4]: An annoying resource drain; they hit hard enough that light-armour users have to worry about them, have reasonably high HP, never leave corpses, come in packs, regenerate, and flee at the slightest provocation. < 1335945028 763849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how annoying < 1335945057 539522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah < 1335945065 622917 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah uh < 1335945067 43216 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do that < 1335945069 697222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Try not to let them merge more than once, because the damage only keeps increasing, from 44 for two slimes up to 110 for five slimes." < 1335945070 443099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335945074 528659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1335945075 756790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fast are they < 1335945079 495483 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal speed < 1335945085 648859 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are they 11 < 1335945092 790187 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know ugly things are 11 < 1335945093 876104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 < 1335945095 720141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :says gretell < 1335945097 528395 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 is normal < 1335945103 234792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very large oh good < 1335945103 765558 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :close the door on them < 1335945104 833721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i like < 1335945106 612857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fireball it < 1335945106 746907 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: So, gloves help a lot when hitting monsters with your claws? < 1335945106 868809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335945115 134426 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what? < 1335945125 337268 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: gloves are for making you not chop hydra heads off < 1335945128 387480 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: (with your claws) < 1335945136 602444 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, good to know. < 1335945139 862975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive closed the door on it monqy < 1335945140 925414 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: they negate claw bonus damage though < 1335945145 526530 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335945148 948787 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, makes sense. < 1335945161 396363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill < 1335945162 246180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go upstairs < 1335945169 234620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1335945171 369046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uhhh < 1335945174 803385 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ve never fought hydras with ghouls, i didn’t know their claws are badass enough to chop heads off. < 1335945177 78949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a very large slime creature down there < 1335945183 39496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a wande will help??? < 1335945200 954028 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it's just claws 1, "sharp fingernails", but that's enough to chop them < 1335945201 165697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335945241 299521 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335945268 463942 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 NICK :Guest12549 < 1335945275 495265 :Guest12549!~elliott@95.149.229.194 NICK :elliott < 1335945278 135820 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Changing host < 1335945278 154212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335945280 79984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help :( < 1335945299 907906 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help? < 1335945301 516007 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1335945305 218517 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot's gotten further as a monk than I ever have < 1335945312 659100 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm bad at unarmed combat for some reason) < 1335945316 61992 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1335945321 781512 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unarmed combat is really good < 1335945332 713015 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it was meganerfed < 1335945344 488913 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :uc feels really really inaccurate at lower levels < 1335945347 682944 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I am doing something wrong < 1335945349 633698 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pump it as fast as I can < 1335945352 165262 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it suck before 27? < 1335945364 723575 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uc is bad at the lower levels but really really good at higher levels < 1335945369 25820 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I thought < 1335945369 244076 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335945369 645572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: *elliott < 1335945374 160256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im uc only 16.5 < 1335945377 167276 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliotter < 1335945377 185460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still feels "pretey goode" < 1335945378 799767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help as in < 1335945382 892031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a very large slime creature > < 1335945386 164610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i want to explore > < 1335945391 338573 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick another stair case < 1335945391 831630 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you leave its LOS < 1335945392 720090 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it splits up < 1335945394 489037 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do that < 1335945394 843801 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively do orc < 1335945404 258637 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :G < 1335945408 365129 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's on d:6 < 1335945410 210996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that orc < 1335945410 745196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1335945413 222561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but i thought lair first < 1335945413 754311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1335945416 765748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in lair i keep dieing < 1335945420 525303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1335945423 402489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"orc maybe not so goode"? < 1335945428 29442 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair is easier than orc < 1335945432 152837 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair first is what you do if it's not ful of things you have problems with < 1335945432 501914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but < 1335945438 81148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: lair has eight-headed hydrae < 1335945438 430148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1335945439 178807 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean obviously < 1335945440 790051 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get a hard lair, orc might be easier < 1335945443 802460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okey < 1335945450 179092 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I guess what monqy said < 1335945451 459138 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time I went into lair < 1335945451 970240 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1335945455 731801 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 blink frogs were around the staircase < 1335945456 440955 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaa < 1335945459 114938 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I lived but still < 1335945472 148653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should < 1335945472 499515 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I prefer lair's difficulty spurts to orc's < 1335945473 384292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :splint mail < 1335945475 198756 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time I had a lair as a ghoul where all three up staircases on lair:1 were next to a nasty hydra < 1335945476 435008 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since orc's has smiting < 1335945483 593687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how can i calculate what AC/EV i'll get with the splint mail < 1335945486 851541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1335945488 938259 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1335945489 117828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how can i calculate what AC/EV i'll get with the plate armour < 1335945491 110283 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunnnnno < 1335945496 807391 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe henzel knows < 1335945497 870363 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :plate will give you more gdr < 1335945502 4234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but < 1335945503 635605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+4 splint mail < 1335945505 759190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+0 plate armour < 1335945506 655092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1335945507 756923 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have less AC < 1335945508 815104 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more GDR < 1335945509 30021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no enchant armour < 1335945510 141594 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and less EV) < 1335945513 851300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhh < 1335945515 825511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sound worth it yet < 1335945515 844001 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1335945517 562560 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :-2 pair of gloves? < 1335945520 439568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i find enchant armour < 1335945522 939080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: yeah < 1335945523 990276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :acquirement < 1335945527 2940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"really gr8" < 1335945527 186115 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1335945535 409070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 exclusions lmfao < 1335945537 860912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok lets < 1335945538 61494 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you never found orc? < 1335945538 568877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove those < 1335945541 409198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i found orc but < 1335945542 652272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :electric eel < 1335945544 245072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was scared of it < 1335945547 965506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i adjust my skilles maybe < 1335945551 503584 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1335945556 350786 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :electric elliott < 1335945556 515280 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :your skills are fine < 1335945559 36307 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe more uc less non uc) < 1335945570 644981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was training armour so that < 1335945574 37185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plate would be super gr8 < 1335945583 214863 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you at uc mindelay yet? < 1335945586 119168 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it takes forever < 1335945586 298867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fighting because :hp: < 1335945589 747550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: probably not < 1335945596 828585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uc mindelay is 27, it used to be 25 but it was nerfed < 1335945600 378227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1335945601 973660 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at 27 < 1335945604 278216 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mindelay is 5 < 1335945605 703242 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335945609 245413 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't hit mindelay until 27 < 1335945614 482846 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah in that case < 1335945614 501131 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would recommend more mindelay < 1335945616 257863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uc is good to train to 27 anyway < 1335945617 354056 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more uc < 1335945617 672532 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since < 1335945624 425709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :each skill level gives you more damage etc too < 1335945627 842267 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1335945631 802557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it adds 1 to your base damage < 1335945645 280746 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1335945653 376196 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's good and you should train it < 1335945657 436875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1335945658 143991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just < 1335945659 560697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :training armour too < 1335945668 637823 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could defocus it if you wanted uc up faster < 1335945675 336307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno much about armour skille "oops" < 1335945679 58234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335945680 298762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just thought < 1335945682 816013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plate is rly heavy and stuff < 1335945683 383949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1335945691 933777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill have to remove curse to switch to it < 1335945692 287451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1335945697 225227 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CDO should let us attach gdb to our game instances so we could fix problems like too low UC level. < 1335945698 355482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i'm waiting for an enchant armour scroll to make it worth it < 1335945702 611362 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah having lots of armour skille is good for heavey armours < 1335945706 626550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might as well train armour a lot so that I don't get EV penalty as much < 1335945708 946409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1335945725 206948 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeellls < 1335945728 963034 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :armour skill also gives you more ac on heavier armours < 1335945734 32648 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine if the eels in crawl were like the eels in brogue < 1335945734 922047 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1335945744 906973 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :non electrice < 1335945746 719987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh uh < 1335945748 690762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with this smoke thing < 1335945748 866888 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no problemo" < 1335945751 866035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoke? < 1335945752 976806 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I guess it would be an improvement actually < 1335945755 101131 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that's fire < 1335945755 457943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1335945756 422182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire cloud < 1335945756 754538 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't walk into it < 1335945757 297624 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the vault? < 1335945758 380371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff < 1335945760 844854 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah just avoid it < 1335945761 936911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: it's excluded < 1335945763 530039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it tho < 1335945765 458806 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire < 1335945766 516072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though < 1335945766 533799 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :burns < 1335945767 228155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335945767 778013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1335945768 467210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1335945769 703392 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't step in it < 1335945770 447373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's inside it < 1335945772 362262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is < 1335945773 427854 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :loot < 1335945774 514403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the construction < 1335945774 689685 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see it < 1335945776 499949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1335945778 447043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1335945780 421327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :know < 1335945782 455424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1335945784 441490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire < 1335945784 812809 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1335945786 772698 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :armour of fire resistance < 1335945788 405436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what crap < 1335945789 468562 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :some joke vault < 1335945790 353024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335945796 989793 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blink inside at some point when you have extra blink scrolls or cTele. < 1335945805 210117 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it looks like there’s something useful inside. < 1335945809 962844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't < 1335945818 437442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even cash < 1335945834 414492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with warriors switching weapons < 1335945839 797415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uhhh < 1335945839 815612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i super lagging < 1335945841 392402 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can never have enough blink scrolls < 1335945843 384426 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame on you ion < 1335945845 471844 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :advocating their waste < 1335945848 356141 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 gold pieces is infinitely more gold pieces than i have. < 1335945868 440686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1335945872 776772 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't realize the other orc warrior had a glaive? < 1335945875 121823 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he did < 1335945876 185700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335945880 215966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1335945883 892687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1335945886 549332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm not ready for orcish mines after all :) < 1335945894 627022 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :more UC required < 1335945900 67661 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glaivd < 1335945904 515006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: h < 1335945904 868220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elp < 1335945906 820238 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened here < 1335945909 118014 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yikes" < 1335945910 970893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :orc warriors < 1335945911 365768 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the orc warrior has a glaive < 1335945917 536121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: did you see monqy's self-portrait of shachaf and me < 1335945918 258446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1335945919 850105 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335945920 232622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*portraits < 1335945921 113535 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :show < 1335945921 774456 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: consider adding “hits you from afar” to force_more_messages < 1335945921 805642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to change the subject < 1335945927 750640 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: tempting < 1335945928 442641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: :D < 1335945937 387111 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/shachaf.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/eliot.png < 1335945944 534159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/shachaf.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/eliot.png < 1335945946 868505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: fuck you < 1335945951 657456 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are pretty good < 1335945956 526157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to look in the logs for those < 1335945967 486485 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/shachaf.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/eliot.png < 1335945972 490692 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1335945981 139428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: so uhhhhh < 1335945985 621344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i do < 1335945991 764713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff curing (AGAINE???) < 1335945998 2541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there no heal wounds in this fucking dungeon < 1335945998 175039 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you need to zerk < 1335946001 261689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i dont have zerk < 1335946003 927036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im < 1335946004 984828 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the joke < 1335946009 675151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :laughing < 1335946011 839494 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what scrolls do you have? < 1335946032 236925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: double joke: youre ghouel < 1335946044 13442 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok useless shit < 1335946044 366853 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335946047 917735 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're speed 10, they're speed 10 < 1335946048 678627 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghowel movement < 1335946050 45305 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not in danger of dying < 1335946050 63514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1335946052 361715 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you let them hit you < 1335946056 720828 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like pillar dancing? < 1335946059 910600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335946060 625672 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: double moves! < 1335946065 433465 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh noes! < 1335946065 609436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what monqy said < 1335946068 89380 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :one double move won't kill you < 1335946070 286925 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think??) < 1335946071 137494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: energy randomisation "yaey fun" < 1335946089 496405 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw play brogue < 1335946092 293289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335946093 714303 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :features: more fun eels < 1335946095 835977 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no energy randomisation < 1335946098 164069 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw play xjump < 1335946098 889352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do i run to < or do i quaff curinge :/ < 1335946107 494024 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :run to < would work < 1335946108 206639 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw play monqys roguelike < 1335946108 224832 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IMO) < 1335946111 35556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: omg i love xjump < 1335946113 162958 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget if i had a name for it < 1335946114 265398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335946114 283594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fucking hate it < 1335946116 930245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1335946116 948548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love i t < 1335946118 181763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1335946123 996340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qrawl < 1335946137 921020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: quaff curing or run to < help < 1335946144 352307 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Try my tile set for it. Debian/Ubuntu? xjump -graphic /usr/share/games/xjump/ion.xpm.gz < 1335946161 688959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Is this just an elaborate way to brag about being a DEBIAN-PUBLISHED ARTIST? < 1335946168 346239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, no, OS X right now. < 1335946182 526960 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://johan.kiviniemi.name/tmp/xjump/ion.xpm.gz < 1335946208 291100 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i;'d run probabley < 1335946225 852401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if there's eel or w/e < 1335946233 551140 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you kill all the eels? < 1335946242 175193 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :eel solution: fog < 1335946242 490246 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1335946278 497576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it suddenly occurs to me that one of these is gonna follow me up < 1335946279 733917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kill me < 1335946285 428322 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1335946285 778062 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1335946286 490113 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also btw: makhleb solution to hydra: hlep from greater servant < 1335946286 840611 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the regular orc < 1335946288 86698 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is easy < 1335946294 100454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but im still a scarey < 1335946305 175909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow such lage < 1335946308 321805 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be way past the point of normal orcs killing you < 1335946312 294973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am but < 1335946316 26779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :low hp makes me jittery < 1335946316 916784 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: normal orcs with disto! < 1335946323 854110 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335946328 483048 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A crappy video i captured from xjump a few years ago: http://johan.kiviniemi.name/tmp/xjump/xjump_562.ogv < 1335946332 669634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_The orc sings a few bars from the Orcish anthem. < 1335946333 27916 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :force_more reasons < 1335946334 306603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DO THEY DO THESE < 1335946349 507186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : The orc throws an uncursed orcish dagger. < 1335946352 360685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fml < 1335946352 715399 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the orc jeers, as orcs often do < 1335946360 578690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew < 1335946367 449694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try that again < 1335946378 705783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :christ that guy's tough < 1335946389 298897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wow this lag < 1335946441 488694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ion: are you lagging of CDO twest < 1335946448 862178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335946449 68690 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo < 1335946449 612095 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335946453 388798 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1335946463 574879 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1335946466 60292 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott looks like your connections on the blink < 1335946466 187934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335946466 594476 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :orc warrior eel tag team < 1335946468 228053 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-9-69-93.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1335946484 157510 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, monqy < 1335946486 141703 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two brogue wins now < 1335946493 922585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doublegrats < 1335946495 209014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335946504 338959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uugh < 1335946504 485166 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1335946505 565802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lag < 1335946507 719791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and crap < 1335946515 217843 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'd try brogue again if there weren't monkeys or acid lumps < 1335946515 393220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: very funny < 1335946517 174135 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them was with a... I think war axe, plate and a shitload of useful utility staves like obstruction and tunneling < 1335946520 952526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you have against monqys < 1335946526 991431 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one was with an axe of quietus, plate and 0 staves until depth 19 (and all of them sucked) < 1335946530 615166 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i almost typoed monkeys as monqys < 1335946537 81092 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: then i fixed it < 1335946537 258495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eel time < 1335946541 526860 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, both of the two things youm entioend are easy < 1335946543 328426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1335946545 615116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those two guys doing < 1335946548 639901 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try this: maybe I'd try brogue again if there weren't vampire bats on d:2 < 1335946554 560264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1335946556 958123 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: easy but awful < 1335946558 689594 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahaha < 1335946562 460684 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that shit < 1335946563 915026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: vampire bats on d:2 are annoying tooo < 1335946566 394914 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :eel priest tagteam < 1335946569 770891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1335946585 587123 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'll get out of LOS quickest if you run to the stairs < 1335946589 899947 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: get to the wall to heal, then kill the eel if you want, then confuse the orc if you want < 1335946597 70015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by wall do you mean stairs < 1335946601 508951 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335946610 306513 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ez < 1335946625 376882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanie < 1335946634 283197 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1335946641 260702 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do you get a huge adrenaline rush when approaching a high score in xjump? < 1335946648 862194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i don't really approach high scores in xjump < 1335946650 461170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just slip and die < 1335946656 434495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like the platforms are made out of butter < 1335946656 713749 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a personal high score < 1335946660 282188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335946662 730451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get those either < 1335946668 841042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS THIS EEL MADE OF < 1335946669 907301 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to play icy tower, which sounds like what xjump is < 1335946672 29008 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got really far on it < 1335946677 162056 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I always marveled at the replays of ppl who did < 1335946678 44202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things stay "almost dead" in Crawl for about 100 turns. < 1335946701 548992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vision of a gate? < 1335946718 344882 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :check your map < 1335946730 178940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335946734 605569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's a portal of some kind on this level? < 1335946738 14793 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll it around < 1335946748 823933 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you only got that message when ash mapped it < 1335946755 503573 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1335946759 590261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks portally < 1335946762 217660 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a thing alright < 1335946762 745280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what could it be i wonder < 1335946772 258775 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be ice cave, volcano or a shop < 1335946802 38179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow these priests cut into my hp a lot for some reason < 1335946809 31603 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ot < 1335946813 988158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1335946815 256000 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :smites cut through ac < 1335946816 686051 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1335946818 821886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335946820 809436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :smites are annoying < 1335946821 873942 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's random if they decide to smite or not < 1335946823 290097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything i can do about them < 1335946824 708752 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one priest will be like < 1335946825 60830 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yawn < 1335946826 841477 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :another will be like < 1335946829 326732 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 17 17 17 < 1335946830 338422 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not really < 1335946833 600560 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from killing them faster < 1335946855 990636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh monqy probably isn't happy with what i'm doing < 1335946863 465596 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a weird fuckin channel < 1335946863 635668 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you ever considerede < 1335946872 223747 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a self portraite of . . . < 1335946872 345248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've said\ < 1335946875 132810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\\$// < 1335946885 975935 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOURSELF ? ? ? < 1335946892 756302 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe tomorrow < 1335946894 112967 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWIST < 1335946895 281981 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you learn any crazy unix or x86 today < 1335946899 907557 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you could tell me about < 1335946902 958019 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im tired and still have to read all of this stuff i should have read hours ago < 1335946906 360709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :butdddidint < 1335946928 177435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe tomorrow what < 1335946936 89046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335946936 532553 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I learned that Microsoft abuses bits that don't belong to them. < 1335946940 634541 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that count? < 1335946946 863312 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :self portrote (of self) < 1335946964 816179 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something to do with the iret state. < 1335946965 237906 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which bits? < 1335946971 846931 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335946982 281349 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which bits of < 1335946998 829300 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there are 64-or-something bits of flags that go on the stack and/or in a register that iret uses or something? < 1335947004 173843 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some of them are reserved. < 1335947007 788223 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Microsoft uses them anyway. < 1335947018 84192 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iret will restore EFLAGS or RFLAGS from the stack < 1335947031 973043 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you mean? < 1335947039 761924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i guess i have to find another upstairs to find that portal? < 1335947040 135558 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it. < 1335947044 399191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a level below < 1335947045 991213 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardware stacks are distasteful < 1335947049 894098 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that or diggging < 1335947060 816955 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAGS_register_(computing) < 1335947067 184302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive never done digging < 1335947067 893147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it hard < 1335947069 764876 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, look at all those reserved bits. < 1335947079 611662 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1335947084 668461 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(computing)" meaning "(x86)" < 1335947094 571005 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what does Windows use it for? < 1335947101 311465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how do i dige < 1335947105 913544 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wand of dige < 1335947112 465921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew that much < 1335947121 126833 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1335947123 320367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i step back from wall < 1335947125 178902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or go right next to it < 1335947128 506782 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right next to it < 1335947141 995073 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use shift-j < 1335947149 723554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankse < 1335947152 51044 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how is it that gin tastes terrible, and tonic water tastes terrible, but gin & tonic is delicious? < 1335947156 794195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1335947162 918434 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1335947164 655451 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't think I've ever had either. < 1335947166 280732 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a volcanop < 1335947168 196988 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one should I try first? < 1335947176 211023 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they're both terrible, so... < 1335947181 566183 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, a version with smooth scrolling. http://gnujump.es.gnu.org/index.php/Main_Page < 1335947188 129219 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think modern tonic water is not too bad < 1335947191 692880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that one REALLY REALLY sucks < 1335947193 115641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's buggy as hell < 1335947194 386583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1335947196 367114 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It feels quite decent if you turn the turbl trails and blur off. < 1335947201 627939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i just got unlucky < 1335947209 85074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: should i volcano < 1335947210 635346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never volcanoes < 1335947212 958759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*volcanoed < 1335947213 315990 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop your scrolls < 1335947214 902341 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to work on my system at the moment. < 1335947215 85806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how hard is it < 1335947216 949173 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original idea was to mask the taste of antimalarial quinine in tonic water, by adding gin < 1335947221 380141 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiery < 1335947222 987236 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so drop your scrolls < 1335947223 695568 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which should give you an idea how fucking terrible tonic water is < 1335947237 216268 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, maybe it's less "mask the taste" and more "if this is the only booze we give the troops, they'll drink it" < 1335947237 234576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: that's not helpful < 1335947242 835357 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335947245 865480 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're dropped right next to the exit < 1335947250 157260 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can leave if it's hard for some reason < 1335947250 688489 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1335947252 677179 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :volcanos might erupt < 1335947256 182157 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there'll be places to go for shelter < 1335947268 540615 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :antimalarial quine < 1335947268 818690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1335947272 363673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how scary is the stuff inside < 1335947283 749050 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll be fine < 1335947287 937130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha what a terrible place for edmund to turn up < 1335947289 367661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1335947294 188383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit late to the party < 1335947302 537455 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :edmund is always fashionably late < 1335947311 917885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Your scroll of teleportation catches fire! < 1335947314 12520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :grrrrr < 1335947317 904735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want the thing that protects you from that crap < 1335947326 446803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i can see invis now < 1335947408 701147 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellie: Wow, you already have ***... < 1335947411 720940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i volcanoe < 1335947419 705911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Eh? I've been with ashey for ages. < 1335947429 737861 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the point. :-P < 1335947431 231980 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335947435 731356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335947436 601374 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moar cursed stuff! < 1335947440 946071 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1335947441 831294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ihave cursed stuff! < 1335947443 249495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I have < 1335947446 641719 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the god screen. < 1335947452 643139 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ or something < 1335947467 848938 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: volcano < 1335947475 646237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your claws are not bound." Uhh... < 1335947478 341936 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335947479 390646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Yes, I know. Should I it? < 1335947480 436575 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously don't bind those < 1335947482 559429 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can bind the rest < 1335947483 808772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1335947488 433077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Okay. (Why?) < 1335947497 15291 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it's freee loot < 1335947500 628447 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other times it's less free < 1335947502 400192 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still loot < 1335947514 332383 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other times you want to get out but you can get out so it's all good < 1335947526 765335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really drop all my scrolls? < 1335947533 149207 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll burn < 1335947534 268629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I don't have any of use. < 1335947544 265534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will potions burn? :P < 1335947547 207292 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335947550 366017 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rF++++++ might be useful judging from the name. < 1335947555 990418 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :potions prefer freeszing < 1335947556 166612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: wat < 1335947558 736720 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rF+ is enough < 1335947560 984420 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cold destroys potions, fire destroys scrolles. < 1335947570 492417 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: volcano is where you find plate of rF < 1335947574 25696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have ring of protection from fire < 1335947576 745904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1335947579 829688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also ring of ice < 1335947580 755135 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, if you have gourmand < 1335947582 729326 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds okay < 1335947584 159912 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to wait for chunks to rot < 1335947585 574723 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ooh or cpm of rF!!! < 1335947586 813222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should replace regeneration with ice for volcano? < 1335947588 68372 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1335947588 776490 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpa < 1335947592 381754 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpa of rF < 1335947593 311400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I know. < 1335947596 159717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe I should replace regeneration with ice for volcano? < 1335947600 316744 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1335947601 878143 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice? < 1335947602 758163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For more rF. < 1335947603 828907 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice makes you rF- < 1335947605 813172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1335947606 343709 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not rF+ < 1335947607 765462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong way around. < 1335947611 786124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing I didn't do that! < 1335947617 78428 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :doooo it < 1335947621 854489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, autoexplore. < 1335947622 208189 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335947622 781404 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one < 1335947628 299035 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this one the volcano erupts periodically < 1335947629 730430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Does that mean run? < 1335947631 350322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335947632 458436 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it does ge tto a hut and close the door < 1335947633 743772 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thautoexplore < 1335947639 192 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have rF+ so you should be fine < 1335947639 886764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck that. That sounds waful. < 1335947642 9387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*awful. < 1335947648 387925 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the damage is pretty low if you have rF+ < 1335947651 640480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it erupts, I die, right? < 1335947656 813357 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335947660 891503 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just spawns fire clouds randomly < 1335947667 465500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, uh, is autoexplore safe? < 1335947677 254041 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget so I'd manualexplore < 1335947732 160626 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee < 1335947732 181064 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1335947736 17501 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :see it's like < 1335947736 724837 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 damage < 1335947753 660855 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lymia.x10.bz/?a=contentpage&p=ulc < wee~ < 1335947762 348969 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to be lazy and email the esoteric archive tomorrow. < 1335947765 328433 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :loot < 1335947776 306412 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close the doore < 1335947777 402954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: You can just add that to the external links section as-is. < 1335947785 353194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Bit late. < 1335947816 487214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335947826 521141 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rF+ reasons < 1335947836 543941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ac helps too < 1335947837 431339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This must be one magical fucking ring to be makingt his harmless. < 1335947840 797568 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does? < 1335947841 680373 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1335947842 785496 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that your ac is particularly excellent but < 1335947847 381826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not *harmless*. < 1335947850 323924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not hruting much. < 1335947851 920508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*making this < 1335947884 599775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, is that it? < 1335947888 395226 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335947888 924248 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything on the other side of watter < 1335947895 449918 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not water < 1335947900 17887 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't? < 1335947901 78111 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is Deudly Lava < 1335947904 170215 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bottom < 1335947908 151593 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1335947908 684504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's deep water. < 1335947913 657417 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no < 1335947917 21025 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's anything past that < 1335947918 438287 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have potions of levitation? < 1335947924 472339 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1335947925 185336 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335947925 383245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, technically. < 1335947926 253047 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't drown < 1335947931 11940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to go there. < 1335947933 705349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obviously a circular map. < 1335947935 831338 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the vault < 1335947943 119701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What of it? < 1335947946 545000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took everything that looked useful. < 1335947946 939794 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll say < 1335947950 319174 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good ideas #497: drink a potion of levitation and explore the vast area of deep water. < 1335947951 735867 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Authoratatively < 1335947953 575631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was mostly just lower-class armour with fire. < 1335947956 421080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What vault? < 1335947961 607313 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the volcano map < 1335947965 146773 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this whole vault < 1335947970 580000 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one you're in < 1335947978 963781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at it how? < 1335947990 725716 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine i'lll look at it < 1335948004 43276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I honestly didn't know what you meant. < 1335948009 610682 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/blobs/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/volcano.des < 1335948012 443187 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what monqy means < 1335948020 60743 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there's nothing on the other side < 1335948023 549803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's so cheating. < 1335948052 703758 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so as ash can you like < 1335948057 708639 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn remove curse into curse armor/jewellery < 1335948060 411528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1335948080 381220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orcs, more like tab tab tab tab tab tab. < 1335948101 640834 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tab the orcs < 1335948103 358597 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :torcs < 1335948125 343224 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :torques < 1335948147 897328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335948151 630223 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogre + orc warrior < 1335948152 54780 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335948152 73085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orcs, more like tab tab tab die. < 1335948174 823413 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can step downright and find a choke < 1335948178 590311 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335948184 429588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 41 hp? ok < 1335948191 596263 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1335948192 481528 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the warrior and ogre are melee only < 1335948199 464999 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and neither have polearm < 1335948203 901213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no chokes :( < 1335948204 120788 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-93-189-98.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Client Quit < 1335948205 179706 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's choke everywhere < 1335948207 134389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's some semichokes i guess < 1335948208 193164 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1335948208 900520 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick one < 1335948241 462092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335948244 826729 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1335948255 230206 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why aren't you damaging that ogr < 1335948256 328425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I told you my continuing fear of ogres was justified. < 1335948265 608143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good question. < 1335948270 23662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea. < 1335948271 86770 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1335948272 883853 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at all those wands < 1335948274 225905 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why is your ac so low (when does ac start going up?) < 1335948289 399181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about curing + might? < 1335948300 47187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Yeah, I should really start using those more. < 1335948357 746507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You mangle the ogre!! < 1335948389 650521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1335948392 837273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the end level, isn't it. < 1335948394 75110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scary one. < 1335948400 233295 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends what's on it < 1335948400 982543 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only scary sometimes < 1335948439 391444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno what was with that other ogre < 1335948444 276606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it thought it was a hill giant < 1335948479 779809 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1335948481 372983 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaurs < 1335948481 903915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's scary this time < 1335948498 408962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i could ~mighte~ but < 1335948501 771762 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but? < 1335948507 745358 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like you're going to ever use all those potions of might < 1335948509 648297 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :may as well < 1335948515 827639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Point. < 1335948528 396540 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh the crossbows ending? < 1335948531 60319 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :niiiiiiiiiiiiice < 1335948538 176728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the worst yet to come? < 1335948538 756538 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean < 1335948547 933272 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335948547 951400 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crossbows ending is the < 1335948548 857254 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335948549 41899 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :crossbows < 1335948553 215788 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just let you see for yourself < 1335948557 600228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't like the < 1335948559 908637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing for myself part < 1335948561 318752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i gonna die :( < 1335948569 376372 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i didn't die when i did it < 1335948575 914332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok they have crossbows < 1335948578 301252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i < 1335948579 653537 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was an < 1335948580 188069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wand them? < 1335948581 75918 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :experience < 1335948608 404937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the thing basically < 1335948612 466096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :orc warriors with crossbows firing annoying crap < 1335948650 868827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :( < 1335948680 839905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1335948685 169045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many firings do wands last < 1335948690 484462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the wand < 1335948694 58008 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to wand yet < 1335948722 127610 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't just stand in front of them and let them shoot at you either < 1335948754 451373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol im fucked < 1335948772 655194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335948778 177029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1335948781 412347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many of these guys are there < 1335948790 172453 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget < 1335948824 450390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1335948824 627034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335948826 454226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks toadstool < 1335948834 666889 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sick toadstool strategy < 1335948854 694119 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1335948856 662393 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :toadstool chokepoints < 1335948857 816132 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love it < 1335948868 179798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaur < 1335948869 582972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im so fucking dead < 1335948872 282244 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1335948874 9973 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like < 1335948875 321064 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :one tile away < 1335948877 796541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :48 hp < 1335948880 237587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1335948883 113682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to manouvre around toget to it < 1335948885 960215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which puts me in firing range of < 1335948888 123439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the shit up there < 1335948907 450351 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's on the other side of the wall < 1335948910 77088 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have scrying < 1335948910 821272 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1335948911 927782 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it shoot you < 1335948915 305871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i have ashe < 1335948917 70130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see < 1335948917 603416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{s < 1335948918 180250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1335948919 772593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :triangles < 1335948921 257910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shit < 1335948922 408571 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1335948922 913014 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1335948925 943118 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have scrying yet < 1335948929 488688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what that is :( < 1335948933 257307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: no, but it can hit through the fungus in one turn < 1335948936 405414 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :check 'a' screen < 1335948938 667671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1335948940 153479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :toadstool < 1335948945 609144 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok no scrying < 1335948948 174519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im not so good with piety < 1335948952 955378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i see < 1335948993 337412 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well whatever you do don't charge up into the palce where everyone will shoot at you < 1335949006 529552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1335949010 852865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do centaurs not know how to kill toadstools < 1335949015 475662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking lmao < 1335949027 977657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335949029 392013 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1335949032 470732 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the toadstool die < 1335949034 780939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335949047 584500 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you resting so close to the place anyway < 1335949052 405761 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not give yourself more cover < 1335949055 594467 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to heal quickly you should eat corpses < 1335949058 625555 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are any left < 1335949071 182710 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool < 1335949073 390433 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating as a ghoul restores hp < 1335949081 182776 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: never played ghouls? < 1335949085 56460 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1335949088 941468 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't played most races still < 1335949102 258172 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game are you talking abot? < 1335949103 645458 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :about* < 1335949111 298642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dungeon crawl stone soup < 1335949120 616751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that it < 1335949122 215711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335949155 110569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335949157 241037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self glaive < 1335949191 10320 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1335949191 361362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :euhhh < 1335949192 968631 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk towards everything < 1335949198 266904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long would it take me to retreat < 1335949198 617048 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335949205 614207 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd retreat < 1335949208 904660 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :four orc warriors at once = bleugh < 1335949213 565451 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and looks like there's more shit behind it < 1335949224 92930 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have digging charges right? < 1335949225 328345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :retreat or greater servant < 1335949227 533802 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not zap digging downwards and hide < 1335949245 437367 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not zap digging upwards, yum < 1335949252 245410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1335949253 837101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :orcish:4 < 1335949256 112854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's below orcish:4 < 1335949258 596254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: greater servant < 1335949259 123319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1335949261 289719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IM ASHE < 1335949263 233508 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :by downwards I mean < 1335949263 727955 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :south < 1335949273 719876 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: dude < 1335949274 599202 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't nethack < 1335949276 365040 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: it's stone < 1335949279 592331 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is? < 1335949281 261008 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you tell < 1335949283 936967 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were making a nethack joke < 1335949285 629483 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colour man < 1335949288 109245 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335949302 504966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would fireball help < 1335949308 547023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh < 1335949309 431358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :running < 1335949316 799953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about levitation < 1335949319 698579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :could i levitate over the walls < 1335949386 335365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335949420 742548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1335949423 588379 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't you run, again? < 1335949427 125190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335949429 795592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's a lot of steps < 1335949430 861942 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't leve over walls < 1335949432 5019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have ranged weapons < 1335949439 590510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i could < 1335949441 720293 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lev would only help with that wayer < 1335949441 738002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was one of my options < 1335949448 984278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, retreat to deep water? < 1335949450 256925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be able to cut a corner < 1335949452 732635 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1335949455 251467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then lev over the water? ok < 1335949465 323221 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then of course get off of the dep water < 1335949469 135886 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't drown < 1335949475 702597 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-117-61.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335949500 242940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a mess < 1335949522 189711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1335949523 122588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks orc < 1335949611 233946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :success < 1335949620 793712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1335949623 630956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll buy the two heal wounds < 1335949624 867213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1335949628 592458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never find any < 1335949630 535102 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hela wounds is good to buy < 1335949633 722794 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed isn't bad to buy either < 1335949635 718184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hella wounds < 1335949667 723180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: the speed's a bit pricey < 1335949680 669526 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :see what's in the other stores, then < 1335949709 886228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f - the cursed -2,-3 mace "Othri" {slay orc, rC+ rN+ Int+1} 243 gold < 1335949712 405509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursed -2,-3 mace? < 1335949713 111955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me more < 1335949719 448887 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :243 gold < 1335949721 52994 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly a bargain < 1335949734 374580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :could do with tele < 1335949764 382313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the grimoire of the rocks and good luck < 1335949767 105922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of a title is that < 1335949776 740643 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grim. < 1335949788 799109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suits me < 1335949789 517857 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: see {good names[14]} < 1335949805 521022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:09 good names[14/18]: Sif Muna's Arcane Secrets of Secret Knowledge {god gift} < 1335949805 828557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335949808 262880 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again it's good luck < 1335949827 150782 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so contradiction in my interpretation < 1335949833 619612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no autoexplore no < 1335949846 392511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also a book of Burning Companions or somethingoroher but it got deleted :( < 1335949857 657761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :woop woop < 1335949864 699718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh, warlorde < 1335949867 569812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really need a < 1335949870 756346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wand of huge explosion < 1335949873 587958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for situations like this < 1335949874 827164 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makhleb < 1335949877 556258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1335949877 672935 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that book. < 1335949880 33439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i convert < 1335949882 184412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ashey's wrath like < 1335949884 269782 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335949885 720010 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :an orc warlord < 1335949885 858941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1335949887 63278 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't fight it < 1335949893 514795 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just leave orc and go do lair < 1335949898 163692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: hydrae < 1335949904 73565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uhhh < 1335949904 753558 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :orc warlords are harder < 1335949907 53606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaving sounds difficult < 1335949909 391039 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just let this be a learning experience < 1335949920 828754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you saying "just be ok with dyin" < 1335949921 765349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dying < 1335949926 695960 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't die < 1335949929 783997 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't fight it < 1335949932 122209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed might be useful < 1335949935 491574 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :run away < 1335949936 730876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to < 1335949938 364234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get away < 1335949949 385544 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll only have to worry about the warg < 1335949952 295381 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're weak anyway right < 1335949972 377495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :frenzied eh < 1335949983 179583 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :warlords do that < 1335949985 561590 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno what it means < 1335950030 537943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1335950033 916655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1335950036 996007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the wrong downstair < 1335950057 812060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have tele < 1335950062 596568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are orc warlords too hard for that < 1335950073 619985 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: bend space < 1335950077 731710 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335950079 503172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN'T BEND SPACE < 1335950081 450277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU < 1335950083 419959 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335950091 834260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashe reasons: you want to die < 1335950096 856577 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im helping u appreciate the gods you aren't with < 1335950107 635871 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slouch slouch slouche step from time uhhh < 1335950108 559220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i confuse the warlord maybe?? < 1335950109 981726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1335950111 217406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :run?? < 1335950115 875755 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :warlorde doesnt like being confused < 1335950118 755358 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a tip < 1335950119 643185 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not step < 1335950121 732781 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :awauy from the warlord < 1335950123 861930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:15 orc warlord (o) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal (items) | HD: 15 | HP: 88-141 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 32 | Res: magic(60) | Chunks: contam | XP: 2257. < 1335950125 107960 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :then read tele or whatever you were going to do < 1335950125 659469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dam 32? < 1335950127 99655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not < 1335950127 812235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bad < 1335950129 977945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hp is though < 1335950135 709879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that's less than the hydrae were doing < 1335950136 597262 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has a wepon < 1335950138 730533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335950145 360798 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not spread out over multiple hits < 1335950145 717944 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's 32 dam in one attack < 1335950147 664166 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it pierces ac well < 1335950148 195935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: there's not really an "away" < 1335950151 915213 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure there is < 1335950154 107573 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :step south twice < 1335950163 468878 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're only slightly mauled < 1335950171 315522 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhuhhh < 1335950172 770063 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1335950173 657086 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing ? < 1335950178 335581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to < 1335950180 265908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get to the upstair < 1335950182 571164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :badly < 1335950186 324236 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m hm < 1335950189 582290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heal < 1335950190 475291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wounds?? < 1335950192 287086 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1335950204 189004 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha jesus < 1335950205 555786 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice hp < 1335950212 45479 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1335950213 486250 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you like orc < 1335950224 541616 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can handle a hydra now < 1335950235 474885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think im going to < 1335950236 895871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch to plate < 1335950239 256548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if ashe will be sad < 1335950243 976636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AC 21, EV 7 < 1335950260 138685 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you uncurse the helmet too < 1335950261 747770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335950264 236749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: didn't have a choice < 1335950266 535731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1335950267 423030 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you do < 1335950268 130352 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit escape < 1335950269 548645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335950271 877405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh well" < 1335950274 710986 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think the scrolls ask you under ash < 1335950308 838316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh uh < 1335950313 710178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i was gonna do lair right < 1335950319 860006 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were going to plate < 1335950322 691739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1335950325 9769 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335950325 797351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it decreased my AC by one < 1335950328 816494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my EV by one < 1335950330 239521 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1335950335 580937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gotta enchant it < 1335950342 135065 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah just get a better plat < 1335950344 790770 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or better yet < 1335950347 268130 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gda < 1335950361 727778 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or cpa < 1335950379 637794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335950383 466900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do i get those < 1335950405 498754 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :goldon draggins and floor, respectively < 1335950416 568733 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively: acquirement, possibly from xom/oka/geneicard < 1335950423 28333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1335950423 46869 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to make an unrandart armour with 53 base AC < 1335950425 516566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair before D:13? < 1335950426 481223 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it slows and +muts you < 1335950427 428721 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1335950446 904228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :armour where you can't take any damage but you die immediately < 1335950447 251764 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: ghoul of chei "unstoppable wrecking machine" < 1335950458 392003 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well some things pierce gda < 1335950460 699713 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gdr < 1335950469 428224 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd be funny when you suddenly got murdered by hellfire or af_cold or whatever it was < 1335950493 152551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now im actually laughing in real life at monqy's chei jokes < 1335950495 202489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have i become < 1335950522 764954 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't stop now < 1335950525 964868 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are crawls to be crawled < 1335950526 141690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess ill D:13 < 1335950527 595072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then lair < 1335950566 424631 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo, a hydra < 1335950566 993936 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335950568 21305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HYDRAE < 1335950568 924716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYWHERE < 1335950570 395394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1335950572 525276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are hill giants yellow < 1335950577 38297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still fucking scared of hill giants < 1335950584 816743 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimal danger calculation algorithm < 1335950585 930998 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hill giants probably aren't so bad by now < 1335950614 544226 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1335950615 424854 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydras < 1335950615 443023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydrae otoh < 1335950616 663162 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot open doors < 1335950620 245554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? < 1335950625 251385 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hill giants can < 1335950630 692777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: ("hydras" honestly) < 1335950632 816364 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : hydra (D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | Int: insect | HD: 13 | HP: 54-91 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | Fl: amphibious, regen | Res: magic(52), poison, drown | Chunks: poison+contam | XP: 1215. < 1335950633 357818 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can centaurs < 1335950636 14467 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :insect intelligence < 1335950637 404394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not worker ants < 1335950638 260625 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fyi < 1335950659 600616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: iknow < 1335950662 796625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i know < 1335950664 606292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1335950667 83409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a centaur too < 1335950671 574473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it's a party of monsters i hate < 1335950674 721255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus a worker ant < 1335950687 919435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck behind the corner < 1335950698 891111 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yat < 1335950700 143860 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335950703 332848 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :situation diffused < 1335950704 395079 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1335950706 557349 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :by a dour < 1335950711 917051 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey, dour < 1335950719 69762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just < 1335950720 837881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep exploring then < 1335950726 113820 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, brogue's doors are better than crawl's doors < 1335950729 349581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1335950729 979331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet < 1335950731 746633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i press o < 1335950732 813966 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use them to own the shit out of brogue centaurs, pixies, etc < 1335950732 989149 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :autoexplore into dour, a party in a dour < 1335950733 737639 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335950734 584370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll walk up to that door and open it < 1335950740 609494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335950741 104438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1335950742 382415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exclusion zones < 1335950742 400109 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :make an exclusion < 1335950744 338070 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335950757 221394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1335950784 831332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh pack is full < 1335950796 519546 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're never going to use those 12 arrows of dispersal < 1335950797 740737 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a start < 1335950800 400249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will anything pick up those arrows of dispersal < 1335950803 298699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only reason i have them < 1335950806 667335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so other things don't < 1335950810 649044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a "bad experience" < 1335950814 53292 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335950823 957342 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should drop them on some level you've already cleared then < 1335950824 702826 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in like < 1335950825 942652 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :temple/lair < 1335950827 712782 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1335950832 511399 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, drop scrolls of enchant weapon < 1335950835 65007 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't enchant your hands < 1335950836 836296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was going to < 1335950863 42450 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not very bound < 1335950867 612868 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably explains the low piett < 1335950869 924759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i can drop this 5-zaps wand of consuion < 1335950871 169647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i KNOW < 1335950875 313063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have anything to do the binding with ok < 1335950950 631705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, that dragon burns scrolls < 1335950952 80433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335950955 100827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i drop them will they be ok < 1335950983 851557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335951005 574326 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only burns scrolls in your inventory < 1335951007 28498 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :because physics < 1335951010 194032 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(brogue is far more realistic) < 1335951022 30227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im glow < 1335951022 925974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also < 1335951024 362858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :liquid flame < 1335951025 303993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*flam < 1335951027 443682 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue is the other way around isn't it < 1335951032 572572 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :burns floor but not inventory < 1335951033 457375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You are covered in liquid flames! < 1335951033 475514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Your scroll of detect curse catches fire! < 1335951033 633093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : One of your 2 scrolls of amnesia catches fire! < 1335951035 51399 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335951035 69721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335951036 114409 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so yeah < 1335951038 488218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? < 1335951046 708224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335951050 418396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335951052 747916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't stop dropping stuff!! < 1335951053 278074 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes multiple turns to drop multiple things < 1335951055 338873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i force it to drop stuff < 1335951055 518082 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335951061 560716 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes 1 turn per stack < 1335951062 976874 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter what < 1335951069 664846 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: best thing in brogue: monkey steals scroll, incendiary dart monkey, monkey dies, scroll burns < 1335951073 469718 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you should start with stuff you value most < 1335951080 775572 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that happened to me once except with staff of firebolt < 1335951088 267572 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes those too < 1335951107 907082 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always forget not to burn monkeys before making sure they didn't steal a scroll < 1335951139 643946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1335951142 617743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i get more carrying capacity < 1335951155 644252 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop shit you're never going to use < 1335951156 356189 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more str < 1335951176 198893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: packrat < 1335951199 539043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh, we meet again < 1335951209 630576 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :packrat == "I don't know how valuable any of this is so I'm going to keep ALL OF IT" < 1335951210 671984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna < 1335951213 680641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :melee the hydra < 1335951217 305461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yell at me if it's a terrible idea monqy < 1335951217 840698 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1335951218 583623 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun < 1335951218 759029 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you;ll want 27 str for gda, or what is it 24str for cpa? < 1335951222 134817 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh what are you doing < 1335951224 182941 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 for cpa yes < 1335951226 236657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's < 1335951226 587231 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what hydra is this < 1335951227 115400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydra < 1335951229 763711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1335951230 84159 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, 6header < 1335951230 621853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 head one < 1335951234 365594 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soften it up with wands first, at least < 1335951239 180410 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put on your gloves etc etc < 1335951244 657109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait they can't open doors < 1335951245 366604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1335951258 179693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy i < 1335951260 437441 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1335951261 322710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't really soften it up < 1335951262 343704 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1335951264 826767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335951265 360398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1335951266 74954 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335951268 352057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was packed behind a door < 1335951269 595276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a worker ant < 1335951271 188403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i opened the door < 1335951273 348992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed the ant and uhhh < 1335951279 989064 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you < 1335951282 238322 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you ever figure out cofree? < 1335951282 975152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :put your gloves on < 1335951285 65037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335951290 867442 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't hit the hydra < 1335951298 451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't going to < 1335951298 180783 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll grow more heads < 1335951302 775759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1335951308 197605 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i hit the hydra < 1335951312 424630 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1335951318 82343 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it grow < 1335951321 400214 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayb < 1335951333 507904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok how about i < 1335951334 172524 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you mean 'maybe'. learne to spelle < 1335951335 758590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :put on my gloves < 1335951339 196607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then uhhhh < 1335951341 715083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit it < 1335951343 568429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with my gloves < 1335951345 236824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it dies < 1335951350 903318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me years to develop this plan < 1335951372 193021 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have fun if it fails < 1335951380 392664 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far so good < 1335951388 663866 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :viktore < 1335951389 156288 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :brave < 1335951393 996985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brave, stupid < 1335951395 655669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :little difference < 1335951396 797908 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335951401 677412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, hill giant < 1335951405 653944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1335951407 351105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ $// < 1335951411 602502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel strong < 1335951420 64318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1335951420 585859 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: WAS THERE A SPACE AT THE END OF YOUR SENTENCE < 1335951423 973835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've learned my lessons you bastards < 1335951425 697208 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell. :-( < 1335951431 318511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't let them merge and don't let them surround you < 1335951436 519921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i stop them merging < 1335951443 962863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't let them touch each other < 1335951446 843393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1335951449 601289 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I think those are mutually exclusie < 1335951477 92233 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1335951484 240186 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my experience they only merge if they want to get closer to you but can't < 1335951491 13473 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's better to get surrounded by them < 1335951507 523475 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting surrounded lets ac apply more < 1335951513 881919 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335951524 752770 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1335951527 631318 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like you're in the lair already < 1335951529 42736 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :large slime creatures aren't so bad, but watch out for titanics < 1335951529 229130 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1335951530 102821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335951532 710880 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydras, hippogriffs and frogs < 1335951539 64986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just want to make me feel at home < 1335951543 462954 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I died by tabbing a titanic once < 1335951545 808616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i gotta know < 1335951548 1967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come < 1335951555 742700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my high score is < 1335951557 142117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:03 146. elliott the Impaler (L15 DsAK), worshipper of Lugonu, blasted by Aizul (poison arrow) on D:17 on 2012-04-26, with 84580 points after 43254 turns and 3:34:58. < 1335951558 917259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the turn count < 1335951564 612203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and look at the turn count on my game < 1335951570 516567 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1335951571 751070 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :howe do you figure out your highe score < 1335951572 912759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1335951581 391039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of fast turn frenzy happened in my highscore game < 1335951587 388000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how can i see my score or can't I < 1335951617 286316 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ ? < 1335951620 754135 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :% ? < 1335951625 465598 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1335951628 614512 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you do orc in that dsak game < 1335951638 504605 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have scorede 0 out of a hundrede possible points < 1335951643 42634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1335951643 946839 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have reached the rank of Novice < 1335951644 674350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1335951647 541821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1335951649 550995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i did and it was that < 1335951651 155440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun time < 1335951652 395266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the < 1335951653 456508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :banishing < 1335951655 624322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it was < 1335951709 429493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh < 1335951760 536711 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spider spider < 1335951765 897949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1335951766 618168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said i'd < 1335951767 150577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go < 1335951767 854362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't i < 1335951773 28162 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :spider is fun < 1335951773 915066 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1335951775 905124 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have rpois < 1335951790 872498 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing about spider is < 1335951793 711307 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeverything is faster than you < 1335951799 65189 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you want to kite back as much as opssible < 1335951820 919845 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orb spiders, Patashu < 1335951822 518185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is spider harder than orc < 1335951832 199520 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :demonic crawlers too uhh < 1335951843 88928 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why not try it and see!! < 1335951845 715983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335951846 968714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to die < 1335951849 98851 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do all of lair < 1335951850 880680 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spider spider < 1335951851 766369 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :before thinking about runes < 1335951852 511277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm super-invested in this character < 1335951853 948944 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spider spider spider < 1335951856 430005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it has a rune??? < 1335951858 555418 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335951861 239939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean it gets me closer to winning < 1335951863 612188 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335951866 877537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but yeah i'm gonna do lair first sorry < 1335951869 843103 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335951874 984462 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you got a Rune/ < 1335951876 768155 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll want to do spider eventually < 1335951877 318737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335951879 325899 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need 3 runes < 1335951882 690856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1335951883 400029 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a matter of when < 1335951899 383748 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people save getting runes until right before zot but < 1335951902 396308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that's boring < 1335951908 947059 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :runes do absolutely nothing for you < 1335951911 999440 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you're ready to win < 1335951912 136920 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1335951914 445106 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1335951926 128233 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :diving rune branches right before winning is: boring < 1335951927 368864 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas: < 1335951933 37185 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing them early is: fun < 1335951938 435224 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hate being bored, do branchless < 1335951939 144592 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fun fun < 1335951944 6639 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha-ha < 1335951950 686165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried that once < 1335951956 653971 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :had hunger problems, rip < 1335951964 40275 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a branchless character < 1335951965 801018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let loose the dogs of etc. < 1335951966 900707 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you go for hell or pan runes < 1335951970 940924 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both sound hard < 1335951979 384748 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe pan, and use cblink/ctele? < 1335951981 351542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh *let slip < 1335952022 580672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh boy < 1335952026 407305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhh boy < 1335952031 947518 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1335952032 300834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh boy < 1335952033 548869 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1335952036 428578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink frogs < 1335952038 942963 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1335952039 119828 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :get to a chokepoint? < 1335952042 840989 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not a chokepoint < 1335952044 820628 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is < 1335952046 940018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a < 1335952046 958352 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1335952048 743960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudo chokepoint < 1335952052 161909 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's choker than that < 1335952054 289537 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1335952055 543456 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what are you doing < 1335952057 795952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :choke < 1335952061 56554 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335952062 676364 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one you were in was ok < 1335952063 989253 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1335952064 481774 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335952065 983811 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1335952068 2002 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than this < 1335952068 886557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i'm not very good at this game < 1335952071 937821 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :np < 1335952077 876909 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long as you don't die < 1335952084 633924 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you do die and learn from this < 1335952085 463023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything can happen < 1335952103 665723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm done with the whole < 1335952105 807437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dying and learning from it thing < 1335952113 590116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to wiiin < 1335952130 817013 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this character will live forever! < 1335952234 452175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, death yaks. < 1335952242 503072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SURE WOULD BE NICE IF I WAS WITH A GOD THAT GAVE ME USEFUL SHIT FOR FIGHTING RIGHT NOW < 1335952259 961304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i take one down in melee, i forget < 1335952266 82681 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can < 1335952266 227759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:50 death yak (Y) | Spd: 10 | Int: animal | HD: 14 | HP: 57-95 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 30 | Res: magic(93) | Chunks: poison+contam | XP: 1059. < 1335952268 501724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't look so bad < 1335952294 99023 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do death yaks have such high MR < 1335952298 784867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :death < 1335952309 408211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :design goals for death yaks: kill < 1335952314 605408 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: apparently ashe wrath ends after you gain 2 exp levels, so if you abandon ashe you want to do it soon so it'l end soon " i guess" < 1335952322 538180 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: of course if you don't want to abandon ahse thats ok too < 1335952334 953828 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't abandon ash < 1335952336 61009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you second ais' recommendation of ashe i mean honestly < 1335952340 394268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not going to abandon him but < 1335952346 123219 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ash would be good < 1335952346 660999 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if < 1335952347 290999 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you bound < 1335952347 987090 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :your shit < 1335952349 333604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would appreciate summon powerful shit more than < 1335952353 232275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"see invisible things" < 1335952357 592984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: how < 1335952361 180204 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :pray over the scrolls of remove curse < 1335952361 608054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't been like < 1335952362 627476 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop them and pray < 1335952368 891061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have scrolls of remove curse??? < 1335952373 313189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1335952373 489453 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 of them < 1335952399 452373 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go < 1335952425 197377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scry! < 1335952425 767772 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1335952428 271834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazeing < 1335952428 662077 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :only took you until xl13 < 1335952431 654360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow look at my piety < 1335952435 568560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashey really likes bondage < 1335952463 112492 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you can still be pious inspite of cursing your god < 1335952472 986180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1335952488 879489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok reading those scrolls should be safe < 1335952490 323565 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ash gives clarity < 1335952492 950734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that < 1335952493 132092 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is really really good < 1335952505 479847 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there aren't many bad scrolls < 1335952507 762222 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp. if you worship ash < 1335952510 857680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slime < 1335952514 274211 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do slime dead last < 1335952515 333297 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1335952535 930125 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slime is usually avoided on 3runers < 1335952540 267572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i superscroll through inventory < 1335952541 363090 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that < 1335952543 723532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its so slow < 1335952548 8306 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pageups/downs/spacebar < 1335952552 212592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thans < 1335952553 279920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thanks < 1335952554 980868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i still have a box of beasts i'm planning to use on zot:5 < 1335952560 747343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mark my words < 1335952576 287037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rrrrrr < 1335952625 638191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i'm wearing my < 1335952627 946307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :helmet of smarts < 1335952648 898683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1335952651 908765 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :gllooooves < 1335952659 384233 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335952660 123762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :draining? < 1335952665 726719 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you want < 1335952677 530439 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1335952687 650356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :asshole < 1335952688 670487 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungussss < 1335952692 48232 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go find him < 1335952694 382427 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and finish him off < 1335952695 424879 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydra regenerayts h pquickly < 1335952701 857277 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its probably at fulkl health by now < 1335952713 107624 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1335952714 171013 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell itidus20 elliott still has a box of beasts to use on zot:5 < 1335952714 300002 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335952739 869641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :distant snort? < 1335952741 107936 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1335952743 126703 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :labyrinth < 1335952747 662709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:58 kober (L14 KoBe) entered a Bailey. (Bailey) < 1335952750 847320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help i thought baileys were gone < 1335952757 502081 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about < 1335952760 512783 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :baileys still exist < 1335952763 173593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:59 labyrinth[1/5]: Look for a cyan \ (or arch depending on your character set) on a level where you hear an "ancient clock" or "distant snort". (1-in-15 chance per level, once per game). Hurry, it times out after a while (you get urgent-sounding messages). Note that magic mapping is likely to show where the lab entrance is; however, it may appear to be a shop. < 1335952766 421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy said baileys were removed < 1335952769 980508 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1335952771 771700 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :baileys own < 1335952773 856950 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you take them out < 1335952776 15275 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, thx ash < 1335952778 810558 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :where they are < 1335952780 428748 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :*at < 1335952790 449570 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go check one of them out < 1335952806 468995 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335952810 607856 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt say they were removed < 1335952811 849499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:59 labyrinth[3/5]: No monster generation (you might find a few hungry ghosts, though); the major dangers are starvation (expect to use a ration or two) and the minotaur (hits for 35+20, so have awesome AC|offense or a powerful ranged attack). If you have a decent amount of food, and don't have teleportitis it's usually safe to explore. < 1335952814 47218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing sounds super boring < 1335952817 944225 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said that you missed one < 1335952818 473027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait so < 1335952821 961450 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :labyrinth is awufl < 1335952824 790942 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont do laby < 1335952824 809059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can autoexplore do the labyrinth for me < 1335952826 71938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335952827 337880 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335952829 865537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well < 1335952831 144806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck that because < 1335952833 214310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm terrible at mazes < 1335952834 266683 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1335952849 565358 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice cave!! < 1335952850 112990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooo fuck elephants < 1335952853 500723 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a cold volcano < 1335952855 61422 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice cave < 1335952855 763002 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335952856 472185 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1335952861 162822 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game is seriously making you pick between lab and ice cave < 1335952861 910538 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1335952887 181212 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol you are < 1335952889 739366 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty surrounded < 1335952891 700191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335952901 142433 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill the elephants < 1335952902 556202 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they hit harder < 1335952916 92246 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335952925 199783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this ice cave < 1335952926 658952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have < 1335952927 897036 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335952927 915363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ring of ice < 1335952928 610948 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :heal first < 1335952929 183352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the purpose < 1335952929 850107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1335952931 295662 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes you do < 1335952933 801949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursed jewellrey < 1335952934 865519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1335952935 573040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of Patashu < 1335952936 104175 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're only partially bound < 1335952936 952776 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1335952941 566175 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1335952942 313604 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1335952945 205898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1335952946 806125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mistyped < 1335952947 229179 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335952951 945452 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love doing that < 1335952952 655154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeh < 1335952966 407445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is ice cave fun < 1335952969 753185 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :very < 1335952970 377467 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure! < 1335952971 720508 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it do it < 1335952972 210945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i'm almost xl14 < 1335952973 453439 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than volcano < 1335952977 691480 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335952979 112172 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is this < 1335952983 300791 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one < 1335952984 948384 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this one < 1335952985 556357 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335952990 682776 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1335952994 456377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1335952994 671947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elp < 1335953007 684316 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :get out of the ice statues' fovs < 1335953008 77266 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ice cave < 1335953009 138721 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :first < 1335953017 319770 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice cave? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1335953029 144272 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you should probably drop all your potions < 1335953029 672334 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1335953032 923719 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot < 1335953044 802975 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop all your potions next to the exit < 1335953067 992548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's with the statues < 1335953076 503273 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any wands of disintegration? < 1335953089 841136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335953091 971290 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice statue (8) | Spd: 16 | Int: high | HD: 8 | HP: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | Fl: non-living, !sil | Res: magic(immune), cold+++, elec++, poison, drown, rot+++, neg+++, torm | Vul: fire | XP: 685 | Sp: b.cold (3d16), throw icicle (3d16), freezing cloud (2d17), ice beast. < 1335953119 232408 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably just melee them but be ready to back up < 1335953122 429500 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they won't regen since they're statues < 1335953140 723291 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C4D0.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335953146 410772 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335953150 489126 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they think they're musus < 1335953160 693904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the exclusion < 1335953163 703276 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :statues < 1335953176 539007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Marking area around the ice statue as unsafe for travelling. x2 < 1335953177 108521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335953177 642159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1335953178 663357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do that < 1335953202 179171 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I didn't know the game places the exclsuions if you lift them < 1335953203 416477 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thanks game) < 1335953225 596930 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :good place to use scrying btw < 1335953239 364669 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :bears < 1335953242 236092 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :except made of ice < 1335953298 471113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is necromancer scary < 1335953308 206279 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :necromancer (@) | Spd: 10 | Int: high (items) | HD: 10 | HP: 26-53 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 6 | Fl: evil, spellcaster | Res: magic(53) | Vul: holy | Chunks: contam | XP: 594 | Sp: b.cold (3d18), b.draining (3d15), animate dead, simulacrum / b.fire (3d18), pain (d13), invisibility, animate dead. < 1335953317 217026 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1335953317 585847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, no < 1335953318 986178 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :take off the ring of ice < 1335953320 48681 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :first < 1335953321 467451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1335953321 824162 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :then beat it up < 1335953324 907553 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :might use bolt of fire < 1335953326 679733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1335953327 32645 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> you have rf- < 1335953340 686312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335953343 517803 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out it didn't < 1335953353 500514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1335953356 624423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes plz < 1335953369 961266 :cheater!~cheater@g230226101.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335953383 332383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you see my NEW PLATE ARMOUR!! < 1335953387 733349 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it rC < 1335953391 134691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :( < 1335953393 80550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's positive energy < 1335953393 979934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's +1a < 1335953396 903887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can enchant it < 1335953397 610548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-a < 1335953415 419017 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't be your end game armoure < 1335953416 481844 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, why did you curse your splint instead of your helm or cloak < 1335953425 436233 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you';ll want something with resistances < 1335953436 305533 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like GDA, or at least plate of rF, which i think you have in shope < 1335953446 543112 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or was that game died) < 1335953447 37039 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :plate of rf would be good for zot < 1335953457 987796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: might find gda on v8 first! < 1335953459 794031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i didn't say end game!! but < 1335953464 592157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than splint mail < 1335953470 693113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plate armour gives gdr right < 1335953482 524759 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :39.6% gdr < 1335953482 542878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it's cold resistance i have in shope < 1335953483 19698 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1335953496 198861 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :plate of mr would be good too < 1335953537 938356 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the traps < 1335953539 220068 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :remind me of like < 1335953540 813335 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :angband vaults < 1335953555 718299 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick up your potions on the way out < 1335953558 207210 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you'll be sorry < 1335953565 298690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335953567 429287 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick < 1335953570 75868 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still do the lab < 1335953571 532420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahaha < 1335953572 944739 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335953574 537266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, hydra < 1335953576 312642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not doing lab btw < 1335953576 704110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1335953577 666099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1335953577 684687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it vibrated away < 1335953578 372477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1335953580 533082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst at mazes < 1335953582 696779 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335953583 759040 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1335953585 1324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :labys suck < 1335953586 79541 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont do < 1335953592 572941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so < 1335953593 459443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydra time < 1335953618 611067 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1335953626 60121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :akdjhasdklhfdkshfdkjf < 1335953636 582618 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do i wasnt watching < 1335953637 998275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even get a new high score < 1335953639 485297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hydra < 1335953640 729658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tv it if you want < 1335953644 980237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it special < 1335953647 553768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1335953650 5863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially stupid < 1335953650 543152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the Arch fortune database must include the sex part of -off by default. < 1335953658 400046 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just thankful it left out the racist ones. < 1335953731 40994 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was close to max damage the hydra could have gone, given your gdr < 1335953733 836137 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :*done < 1335953743 589166 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335953744 919406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1335953746 578376 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, max damage would have been 75 < 1335953747 69054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't switch armour yet < 1335953749 961717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was still splint < 1335953750 672806 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335953751 197966 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1335953751 730366 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :splint < 1335953823 859843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1335953827 925504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like i'm getting better < 1335953836 88709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that was YASD that i should have seen coming < 1335953847 17202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i don't remember the 8-headed hydra hitting that hard < 1335953899 953374 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hydra can hit for up to 18*(1-gdr)*number of heads on any turn < 1335953901 842991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:17 Oh crap. Spiders made it as an official rune branch now ... Nasty. < 1335953905 839845 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that they tend NOT to < 1335953908 887534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should totally play!!!!!!! < 1335953923 215105 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i want to sleep < 1335953942 124775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it'd be extra fun < 1335953943 910582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1335953943 946615 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only reason i'm still awake is i have to read these papers for tomorrow < 1335953947 349323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Wed May 2 03:19:04 2012 < 1335954008 817297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should dive. you love diving! < 1335954021 38916 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can io dive and read at ther same time < 1335954027 278646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335954030 600008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :swim reading < 1335954086 271044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's an art < 1335954107 553561 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll dive once then go back to reading < 1335954124 116248 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(starting now) < 1335954142 78652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: watche < 1335954159 968070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :schinink vun < 1335954161 447676 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch what < 1335954164 146318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: squarelos < 1335954164 536655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CDO < 1335954169 849038 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sure < 1335954171 445181 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, what's he doing < 1335954174 353166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diving < 1335954190 481002 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the goal, here < 1335954194 23315 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stay at xl1 and get as deep as possible? < 1335954199 342759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think monqy has a goal < 1335954200 570582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy just does < 1335954208 693660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip monqy < 1335954212 906917 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335954216 53795 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :kobold with a whip of electruction < 1335954217 860182 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to reading < 1335954218 37279 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to crawl < 1335954222 479386 :cheater!~cheater@g229020248.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335954360 952467 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup duddes and duddettes < 1335954515 355244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is there a way to get like < 1335954518 193446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my top N games froms equell < 1335954550 786349 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddepends on what you mean by way, get, top < 1335954564 839453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :way: method < 1335954566 475099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get: retrieve < 1335954572 383373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :top: ordered by descending score < 1335954578 384376 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hs * < 1335954579 454565 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hs * -2 < 1335954580 376696 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hs * -3 < 1335954581 618811 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1335954583 38289 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is one way < 1335954608 663878 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other ways too if there's something specific you want from each game like < 1335954624 427159 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait I don't know if you can do s=sc ugh < 1335954628 216692 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops oh well < 1335954637 799481 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget how to do it any other ways < 1335954661 566792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of < 1335954662 767683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my games < 1335954663 158662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1335954664 616407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone's < 1335954668 184354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1335954670 174330 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hs < 1335954670 563054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. for * yeah < 1335954671 411022 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hs -2 < 1335954672 844542 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hs -3 < 1335954673 25836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1335954676 388167 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or . for * < 1335954696 221109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:31 !hs < 1335954696 239703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:31 147. elliott the Impaler (L15 DsAK), worshipper of Lugonu, blasted by Aizul (poison arrow) on D:17 on 2012-04-26, with 84580 points after 43254 turns and 3:34:58. < 1335954696 239895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:31 !hs -2 < 1335954697 714323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:31 146. elliott the Brawler (L14 GhMo), worshipper of Ashenzari, slain by a seven-headed hydra in Lair:7 on 2012-05-02, with 45580 points after 33481 turns and 4:00:03. < 1335954699 874644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:31 !hs -3 < 1335954701 808767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:31 145. elliott the Swashbuckler (L12 KoBe), worshipper of Trog, slain by a yak on D:12 on 2012-04-22, with 16802 points after 17648 turns and 2:04:04. < 1335954703 819606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:31 !hs -4 < 1335954705 805633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:31 144. elliott the Grappler (L11 GhMo), worshipper of Makhleb, blasted by Harold (bolt of fire) in D:11 on 2012-04-30, with 10182 points after 11624 turns and 1:19:43. < 1335954707 781353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"my games" < 1335954711 777236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not very good at crawl < 1335954761 287323 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were better than you were the last time I saw you play < 1335954773 239660 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day you'll have a mind shattering revelation and be like < 1335954773 588277 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1335954778 761859 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how you play crawl < 1335954779 711729 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1335954781 314671 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :beaten ez < 1335954869 706314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know how to play crawl you just < 1335954880 612621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit things but mostly run away < 1335954882 395331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's it < 1335954896 20349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just too boring for me to play it that way, so I have to optimise a strategy that involves less running away instead < 1335954937 26565 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should worship chei < 1335954944 998947 :cheater!~cheater@g229020248.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335954950 208360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ha < 1335954952 977959 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you worship chei < 1335954954 787193 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you CAN'T run < 1335954959 140715 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like admitting you're bad < 1335954965 176541 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worship chei do it do it do it < 1335954986 417603 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when a problem comes along < 1335954989 963074 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must slouch it < 1335954993 685177 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :slouch it good < 1335954995 148008 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :into shape < 1335955000 140545 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget the rest of the lyrics < 1335955011 460938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill go ghck and abandon xom for chei if i'm feeling particularly stupid one day < 1335955015 901226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :practice for my feck of chei run < 1335955025 347289 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335955078 812390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you laugh < 1335955088 583776 :cheater!~cheater@g229020248.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335955090 719261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you won't laugh when help, Felid Chaos Knight of Cheibriados, ascends to victory < 1335955125 809090 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :xom wrath is the same as worshipping xom, right < 1335955131 786998 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've "won" a febe of chei before < 1335955146 65802 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :converted on the way up? < 1335955155 34621 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :died to trog wrath < 1335955156 133725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: yes, as I understand it < 1335955163 31732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:39 xom wrath[1/1]: Abandonment: 50 penance, Xom acts. Retribution: Xom acts. (On average, this is worse than just worshipping Xom; but the worst case is the same, so if you are prepared to deal with Happy Xom you should be fine with Mad Xom) < 1335955186 610421 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xom wrath is less frequent than xom worship too isn't it < 1335955225 597202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i came up with a more extreme (and less possible) version of my all-god run goal < 1335955231 340514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that nobody else can steal it from me by doing it < 1335955244 961543 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-252-248.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335955256 38916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to go through every god, and must, for at least one turn, have the wrath of every single god (except the one you're on) active < 1335955257 143356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/but/ < 1335955262 287791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not allowed to switch gods until you reach full piety < 1335955271 690747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god-pleasing-and-abandoning speedrun < 1335955289 337652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1335955290 541177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a genius < 1335955344 697196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's silence is a silence of awe < 1335955412 723181 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-117-61.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1335955506 325659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basking in the awe < 1335955513 264320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm bask < 1335955597 516534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10407003/rotation-matrix-haskell < 1335955599 324766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10408471/rotation-matrix-pbmfile-haskell < 1335955601 292588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10412051/haskell-how-do-i-rotate-a-pbm-image-by-90 < 1335955602 912825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, homework. < 1335955708 439942 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third redirects to the first < 1335955719 74356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Append ?noredirect=1. < 1335955722 20456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or log in to Stack Overflow. < 1335955731 629164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duplicates without answers are automatically redirected for anonymous users these days. < 1335955740 296351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The idea being that they don't really care about clicking a link to get the answer they want.) < 1335955752 969802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spoiler: it's the same question. < 1335956053 573994 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335956152 531713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1335956154 273542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Wed May 2 03:55:53 2012 < 1335956205 46527 :cheater!~cheater@g229020248.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335956466 502018 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1335956782 941147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell monqy i swear i have seen the foreground in eliot.png somewhere else before help < 1335956783 127112 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1335957169 24694 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1335957334 948462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gregor < 1335957335 133737 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1335957414 798484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: eliot.png == http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj299/sonic_jctheking/ELIOT.png right? (I asked Google.) < 1335957425 573589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, absolutely. < 1335957439 45870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:05:37: Patashu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/shachaf.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/eliot.png < 1335957805 649958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: THANKS YOU'RE WELCOME. < 1335958075 531790 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That image was pretty awesome. < 1335958080 898352 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANK’S < 1335958082 907174 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR WELCOME < 1335958339 67224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335958414 462258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335958766 165639 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-252-248.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1335958783 794313 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-252-248.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335959793 658113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335959851 32897 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-252-248.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1335959982 77104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335960804 42163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Did you sleep? < 1335960895 700431 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not yet, a friend came to visit. < 1335960901 892215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ion < 1335960902 396500 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ion is Wed May 2 15:15:02 2012 < 1335960909 355031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hopeless now. < 1335960954 842007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should play again. Roguelikes are addictive. < 1335961834 385305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Do you have IPv6? < 1335961863 507267 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :♥ Avishai Cohen – Dreaming http://open.spotify.com/track/7uPARjX8n4Sf4ndZ9alTxk live: http://youtu.be/yII_XhK5khw < 1335961869 429628 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah < 1335961885 580534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Does esolangs.org have an AAAA record for you? < 1335961916 315956 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org.86400INAAAA2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd < 1335961933 558663 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org. 86400 IN AAAA 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd < 1335961946 624224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. Do you get connected via IPv6 when going to http://esolangs.org/, if you can check that? < 1335961992 179620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I suppose I can check from server logs. < 1335962016 157232 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to work. < 1335962022 224297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2001:0:c38c:c38c:3886:4813:ac6e:121f - - [02/May/2012:12:33:30 +0000] "GET /wiki/Main_Page HTTP/1.1" 200 18627 "-" "curl/7.22.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.22.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.3.4 libidn/1.23 librtmp/2.3" < 1335962023 290264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1335962033 388993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What about with a regular browser? I don't know if they do anything weird with IPv6.) < 1335962060 360392 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine might prefer IPv4 since the IPv6 connection is just a Teredo tunnel. I wonder how to override that? < 1335962070 29656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's what I'm interested in :P < 1335962072 862232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your IPv4 IP? < 1335962133 211707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :83.145.237.224 - - [02/May/2012:12:35:21 +0000] "GET /.ipv4.sixxs.org HTTP/1.1" 404 142 "http://www.sixxs.net/tools/gateway/" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/12.0" < 1335962134 472405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1335962136 446219 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org.ipv4.sixxs.org/ < 1335962139 386276 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works < 1335962160 14054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, cool. < 1335962179 113323 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335962198 574267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Thanks. < 1335962229 756883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how to find out what DNS server is being treated as authoritative for a domain. < 1335962237 466918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get an authority section back from "dig esolangs.org" here. < 1335962254 902450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can't tell if the change has propagated here or not (since I don't know how to request AAAA records when on IPv4, or indeed if I can). < 1335962257 203926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I even can < 1335962263 573543 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dig +trace esolangs.org < 1335962280 329049 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :might give some useful information < 1335962300 440532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, thanks, that works. < 1335962323 866191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, does http://esolangs.org/forum/ have messed up styling for you?) < 1335962394 85807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still get esolangs.org pointing at ns[1-4].afraid.org here at work. Based on the decrementing TTLs, it'll be correct after 6406 more seconds. < 1335962451 824270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How long do I have to wait before it's propagated to everywhere, theoretically? < 1335962483 213267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how odd. The styles end up messed up iff I enable JavaScript. < 1335962574 310924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dig @b0.org.afilias-nst.org esolangs.org ns" reports a TTL of 86400 seconds, i.e. a day. If it was that also before, theoretically it can take up to that long. < 1335962626 637840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happened 16 hours ago. I guess I'll hold off until it's 24 before posting on the community portal. < 1335962638 130840 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It does. And a bunch of spam. < 1335962656 766558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yeah, I know about the spam, it's the styling I'm concerned about. < 1335962667 780494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Does it work if you click "Headline"? < 1335962679 164441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does for me. (And promptly breaks again if I select another style.) < 1335962784 511976 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh. Headline doesn’t change it, but i’m beginning to suspect it’s intended to look like that. < 1335962795 424486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335962803 686673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "messed up", I mean "as if the page had no styling at all". < 1335962813 516920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's grey and orangey, that's right. < 1335962823 719110 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had the “Headline” styling for me all the time. < 1335962830 438320 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1335962860 58331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does selecting the other styles work? < 1335962865 65728 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1335962893 996004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1335962898 430299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it's a Safari thing. < 1335962944 360319 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try clearing your cache. < 1335963072 825716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries it in Firefox. < 1335963077 433649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know Firefox sucks? < 1335963121 914992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it works fine in Firefox. < 1335963485 278520 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to save the world: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17896081 < 1335963721 799767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a good recipe for catching more hobbyist chili growers. < 1335963724 296026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BBC ain't perfect. < 1335964361 451848 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13145F.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335964485 62421 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335964991 828853 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFS, Flash has started crashing constantly. < 1335965107 592077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's expected behaviour for flash < 1335965119 811488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't used to be! < 1335965131 341991 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny how that always sounds way dumber in text. < 1335965132 184466 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did used tod bed < 1335965156 172912 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in speech "it used to be" is perfectly normal, but... < 1335965179 336468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*use to be < 1335965182 940092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes it sound a lot less dumb. < 1335965208 884436 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d like to hear from an authoritative source whether the erroneous-looking “didn’t used to be” is an exception to the rule or whether it should always be “didn’t use to be”. < 1335965624 375440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Have you ever met *America*? < 1335965645 158507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* A m e r i c a * . < 1335965732 202764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: W/ e/ l/ c/ o/ m/ e/ - t/ o/ - A/ m/ e/ r/ i/ c/ a/ . < 1335965743 739366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XqXqXqXqXqXqXqXqXqXqXqXqXqXqXqXqXqXq < 1335965863 519077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Whe rei sthetw othous andan dthree I orde red? < 1335966014 936476 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sitting girl represents PHP software, the spray represents SQL injections and the standing girl represents attackers from the Internet. http://i.imgur.com/SZjwe.jpg < 1335966074 401828 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :???s all round. < 1335966098 311223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haters gonna hate (and get their aims hecked). < 1335966423 546283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow Welcome to Phantom_Hoover! < 1335966423 763458 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2W3e4l5c6o7m8e9 2t3o4 5P6h7a8n9t2o3m4_5H6o7o8v9e2r3! < 1335966852 797803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335966860 224482 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes drinking and driving look so fun i’ll have to try it. http://youtu.be/tYMYv1zsAxE < 1335966931 967509 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335968436 903035 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335969239 432439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335969319 826217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1335969336 633412 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/sxMlF.jpg < 1335969451 387274 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i lolled < 1335969460 37134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPOOKY. < 1335969690 851877 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone #elsewhere didn’t get it and he keeps proving to us it’s the same person by linking Wikipedia etc. articles. And the rest of us on the channel disregard his lines and talk about how it’s probably the similar hairstyle and the eye color, and how they’d surely look almost like twin brothers if you photoshopped a similar beard to the Nirvana drummer’s photo. < 1335969726 773342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1335969739 23060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: The weirdest thing is how they both have the same name. < 1335969766 240999 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335969776 308407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: you guys are best trolls < 1335969855 161874 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1335969882 242703 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1335970272 88633 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335970666 904830 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335970876 178337 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C4D0.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335972689 16695 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335973232 714248 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1335974163 789456 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335975239 78337 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1335975430 576081 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1335975785 733088 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1335976116 509301 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335976313 565406 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1335976669 718819 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1335977486 502863 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335977506 955965 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1335977539 217006 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had de ja vu when reading today's LMoO < 1335977570 491652 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has happened a couple of times with CoaP too < 1335978128 704953 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C4D0.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335978824 653454 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1335979263 690673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_(Obama-Biden_campaign_slogan) < 1335979265 471140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a great article. < 1335979278 233877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially that "Controversy" section. < 1335979449 229961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hopiakuta/_DonFphrnqTaub_Persina_juneteenth_2006_(_Oy_vey,_D._F._T._P._22_26,_18_June_2006_71.102.31.67_)_%7E%7E_%7E%7E This is good too. < 1335979657 23914 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335980266 678734 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-242-71.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335980577 243399 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-242-71.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1335981555 433267 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1335981791 19278 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335982273 691133 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335982296 410877 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-116-225.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335982374 357653 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335982377 22233 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1335982532 47028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1335982704 567656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: did you see the < 1335982705 628854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :new < 1335982706 340674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolange < 1335982716 448351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also monqy's self-portraits of me and shachaf) < 1335982719 643325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exciting esoteric happenings" < 1335982728 331831 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not < 1335982732 52373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:05:37: Patashu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/shachaf.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/eliot.png < 1335982759 725720 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1335983011 330146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not eliot the hedgehog. < 1335983028 132526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's better. < 1335983762 498219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1335983803 741547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1335983846 832971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1335983851 487234 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello oerjan < 1335983855 171089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Ngevd < 1335983886 609862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION predicts oerjan will give up on logreading today. < 1335983917 23957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION confirms he already did. < 1335983923 941511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you missed < 1335983924 832637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:18 08:05:37: Patashu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/shachaf.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/eliot.png < 1335983925 188050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1335983935 112875 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: OUTSITE TIME < 1335983993 704696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if there's a common meme in these he doesn't know about. < 1335983995 124847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1335984030 112835 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're just weird < 1335984115 465763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they are monqy's self-portraits of shachaf and I. the former derives from my self-portrait of shachaf, http://ompldr.org/vZDhvag < 1335984145 946669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which derives from http://slbkbs.org/sb/1.png... but you've seen mine.) < 1335984322 591237 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335984324 782907 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1335984329 566965 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back from OUTSIDE < 1335984339 940657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much crack < 1335984342 144451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you smoke < 1335984343 16540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a hamster < 1335984346 411142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were out for < 1335984350 662812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 minutes < 1335984367 973342 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The outside is a scary place < 1335984371 975971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1335984378 794561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm asking how you managed a whole 7 minutes < 1335984393 765856 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neccessity is the mother of more things than invention < 1335984412 207810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1335984530 473614 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335984566 980164 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode sucks < 1335984634 562704 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wont let me in with or without ssh < 1335984646 273583 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it let you in now < 1335984670 899152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc over ssh < 1335984671 403146 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I am using webchat < 1335984692 23077 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ssl < 1335984763 407917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's definitely ssh :) < 1335984801 686143 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "This server is for SASL users only" < 1335984838 377071 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :South American Sign Language? < 1335984935 900206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335984936 788849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Then you're connecting to the wrong server. < 1335984945 611441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SASL stuff is for Tor. < 1335984960 343013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1335984998 905212 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I am connecting to irc.freenode.net < 1335985020 265706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's some other issue with your configuration :) < 1335985025 963857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'm going to sleep < 1335985072 133864 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :enumerable and innumerable sound almost the same, but are pretty much opposites (I believe) < 1335985101 206106 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: strange how it stopped working on both my phone and computer with configurations that worked before < 1335985134 697662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :googling suggests it's a common issue with mobile providers or something. < 1335985153 257671 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny enough, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/enumerable points out the potential for confusion but still managed to have two incorrect examples (out of three) < 1335985154 30377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case it's pretty obviously not freenode's fault or nobody would be able to connect (well, to the same server, anyway, round-robin and all that) < 1335985156 870960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slep -> < 1335985159 1181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335985351 472180 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1335985585 374681 :cheater!~cheater@g229020248.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1335985779 417282 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335985813 960068 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-49-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1335985813 978523 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-49-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1335985813 978667 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1335985983 43080 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1335987849 14049 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335990367 380723 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335990383 227118 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh damn, I've opened two < 1335990392 579837 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1335990393 119230 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1335990411 166923 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That fixed ti < 1335991726 560389 :wyldstallyns!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1335992407 758374 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1335992442 780269 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1335992484 287579 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335992803 98191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335993164 736779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the White player's first turn, each player may, twice per game, move a piece with duplication meaning a copy is left at its original location. You may not duplicate queens and kings (although pawns can be duplicated). Also, pawns can use such a move while capturing or non-capturing; other pieces can use duplication only for non-capturing. < 1335993464 716275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335994175 792097 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A steam dummy or dummy engine... was a steam engine enclosed in a wooden box structure made to resemble a railroad passenger coach.... It was thought that the more familiar appearance of a coach presented by a steam dummy, as compared to a conventional engine, would be less likely to frighten horses when these trains had to operate in city streets. Later it was discovered that it was actually the noise and motion of the operating gear of a < 1335994327 183602 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335994413 886203 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the operating gear of a$ < 1335994445 419982 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.241 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335994604 65987 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Later it was discovered that it was actually the noise and motion of the operating gear of a steam engine that frightened horses, rather than the unfamiliar outlines of a steam engine." < 1335995783 191797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1335996536 615318 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C4D0.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1335996642 627730 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13145F.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1335998227 960587 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1335998339 618449 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1335998674 560092 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1335999086 62256 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1335999252 928457 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :# readlink /etc < 1335999253 52502 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :usr/etc < 1335999259 713085 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: BE OFFENDED < 1335999264 297443 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: BE PRESENT AND OFFENDED < 1335999270 702650 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh < 1335999277 952176 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody else: BE OFFENDED < 1335999282 720178 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NO < 1335999286 875943 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NO NO NO < 1335999299 367937 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-D < 1335999301 299866 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hereby declare /usr banned. < 1335999310 117863 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, then you'll like this: < 1335999325 454674 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ # readlink /bin < 1335999325 576111 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :usr/bin < 1335999325 594723 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ # readlink /lib < 1335999325 613428 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :usr/lib < 1335999369 278880 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :While everyone else tries to eschew /usr in preference of /, I eschew / in preference of /usr 8-D < 1335999377 687621 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You bastard. < 1335999427 576119 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahahahahaaaaa 8-D < 1335999445 993340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually discovered the etymology behind /usr a while back < 1335999463 733029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, stumbled across someone else explaining it < 1335999478 126683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that in the original UNIX system, it was for home dirs, and on a separate disk from everything else < 1335999497 797891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they ran out of disk space on /, so they started putting things that weren't needed immediately on boot onto the /usr disk because they were short of space < 1335999507 537785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they bought another disk, and decided to move the home dirs there… < 1335999516 502220 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1335999701 300946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, /usr is actually for users, makes perfect sense < 1335999740 139146 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So do you want to know WHY I have this layout? X-D < 1335999788 150969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html was linked-to from somewhere recently, it's about /usr. < 1335999789 526330 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Because each program has a seperate view of /usr. < 1335999815 129490 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Well yeah. So why are you so offended then? X-D < 1335999828 802498 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should totally do it on / instead. :P < 1335999845 282615 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, /home and /var would really appreciate that. < 1335999856 488541 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely. :D < 1335999872 640427 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And /boot, /dev, /proc, /sys for that matter. < 1335999880 593168 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Clearly* you need to have those as packages. < 1335999920 963142 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, aufs is sorta too lame to sensibly make /home a package. < 1335999944 66763 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame. < 1335999991 85863 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its options for deciding where new files go are bugging me, but kinda work only because usually you only put new files in /usr if you're installing a new package. < 1336000978 53490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336001325 32160 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336003436 459493 :wyldstallyns!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336004874 829320 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336005056 816330 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336005077 988335 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336005216 379846 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Client Quit < 1336005289 373407 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336005751 841057 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336005760 749266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello; do you want................. < 1336007992 481439 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Dungeons&Dragons game I will make it my character's job to write down everything about the haunted castle and so on, in a book to keep in the royal archives and in the library, so that next time anyone need to go in there, they can know what to expect < 1336008160 478614 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336008199 237758 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-59.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336009629 469140 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336009813 928608 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336009959 651166 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :messages? < 1336009959 806530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336009969 286418 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1336009969 424452 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 said 15h 54m 6s ago: elliott still has a box of beasts to use on zot:5 < 1336011500 727951 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1336012103 897212 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336015297 768225 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336018840 905685 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god someone actually tried to play the death waltz < 1336019115 336153 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336020005 552031 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336020383 395729 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log waltz < 1336020416 733272 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336020419 760763 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log waltz < 1336020436 760417 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-08-26.txt:23:47:46: [20:52] Johnson Plays Waltz Citing Beethoven's "Your From Round Pittsburg?" Use Escalating Overalls You Damn Jackasses... Just kidding!" < 1336020475 295609 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log waltz < 1336020482 398938 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-07-11.txt:07:19:52: I missed the Death Waltz bit where the upper staff gets a note below the bottom staff on ledger lines :D < 1336020503 963236 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log waltz < 1336020510 466863 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-05-03.txt:04:47:55: `log waltz < 1336020521 852965 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog waltz < 1336020528 196290 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.24809 < 1336020538 129008 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1336020554 484416 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, there was an update at ??:10 < 1336020569 322743 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so < 1336021045 867920 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCgT94A7WgI < 1336021206 38731 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, embedding disabled on request when I try to use youtuberepeat < 1336021213 611267 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it crashes when I try to view it normally < 1336021218 182181 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, FCUK < 1336021222 302795 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted < 1336021226 896430 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION opens Firfox < 1336021228 406230 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox < 1336021233 902920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336021263 122462 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I've seen this < 1336021407 523932 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, did they skip bar 7 correctly? < 1336021418 583992 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard ot tell < 1336021426 687797 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsurprisingly, it's difficult to follow along to the music < 1336021458 120334 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I think they forgot to repeat the first "bar" 9 times < 1336021581 466746 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see that < 1336021610 168184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336022027 15965 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336023764 278433 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336024062 311394 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you see monqy's self-portrait of me? < 1336024102 895857 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336024108 294811 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you asked me that yesterday < 1336024113 654073 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the one with bonzi buddy? < 1336024176 283426 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott also drew a self-portrait of me with Bonzi Buddy. < 1336024181 807410 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But monqy drew a different one. < 1336024191 977844 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:38 < elliott> 19:18 08:05:37: Patashu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/shachaf.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/eliot.png < 1336024313 445039 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty great. < 1336024320 421962 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thonqy < 1336024358 308479 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336024381 675531 :wyldstallyns!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you make a self-portrait of someone else < 1336024391 299345 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wyldstallyns: Just like monqy did it. < 1336025267 618229 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336025733 825685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336025920 521802 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're very good < 1336026266 865630 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott I just found out about http://www.zincland.com/7drl/kobold/ from TVTropes. Have you tried it? < 1336026267 90912 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336026314 289564 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone not tried smart kobold? < 1336026328 330602 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlep < 1336026334 279744 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whats smart kobold" < 1336026336 844890 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, I haven't heard of it until now < 1336026345 785731 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you live with yourself < 1336026349 884195 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, next ThinkPad X series will have a chiclet keyboard < 1336026353 436121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/lenovo-thinkpad-with-ivy-bridge-leaked/ < 1336026361 949115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336026415 774687 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chiclet? < 1336026457 557468 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHICLET KEYBOARD? MORE LIKE CHIC KEYBOARD, KORRECT? < 1336026468 533711 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiclet_keyboard < 1336026484 191968 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1336026578 107476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336026693 791378 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy has been UPDATEd < 1336026782 156815 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it used to mean a particularly shitty kind of rubber membrane keypad seen on tv remotes etc < 1336026810 440268 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's used to refer to laptop keyboards where individual keys are separated by empty space < 1336026818 634513 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though the key mechanism is (in general) much better than those shitty membranes < 1336026828 801018 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thinkpad chiclet keyboard allegedly has the same mechanism as the classic thinkpad keyboard < 1336026849 429670 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a Dell chiclet keyboard. < 1336026913 270229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336026963 219476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I have made a discovery! < 1336026982 980089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wireless around here is really buggy (apparently it's a router issue), and normally won't connect at all, or only for short periods of time < 1336026993 569331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's more likely to connect immediately after the computer is rebooted < 1336027017 581011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems that I can replicate that same high success chance by a rmmod/insmod on the wi-fi driver kernel module < 1336027025 216633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this could seriously save me a lot of time if it works < 1336027041 833720 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I once considered making an alias for "sudo sh -c 'rmmod iwlwifi; modprobe iwlwifi'" < 1336027047 606716 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it never leaves my command line history. < 1336027052 465799 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I didn't get around to doing it. < 1336027085 83302 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i have a script for that < 1336027099 540959 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on linux you should look into whether your card tries to support 802.11n < 1336027101 754630 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if so, disable it < 1336027108 861658 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that improved reliability a lot on one machine i tried < 1336027155 578562 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My card keeps developing exciting new bugs. < 1336027183 594483 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under Ubuntu it was relatively stable once I got everything set up. Here in Debian it seems to break in subtly different ways on every few-week upgrade. < 1336027189 627023 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the reverse of kmc's experience, I think. < 1336027222 655153 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336027226 539150 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :debian unstable? < 1336027236 247361 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never used ubuntu on my own machine for a long stretch of time < 1336027250 143256 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in VMs and on other people's machines here and there < 1336027274 188910 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think even debian unstable doesn't update the kernel that often? < 1336027274 292918 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testing. < 1336027277 385588 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1336027287 99443 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could pin the kernel to a specific version < 1336027294 274337 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might have to do with the fact that I'm using a monstrosity of a system around the kernel. < 1336027452 457608 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/05/02/bosch-drowsiness-detection-system-to-make-alertness-tech-more-common/ < 1336027549 599912 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the world demands people to drive while sleepy < 1336027560 390515 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how so < 1336027589 902526 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't feel like getting xmonad set up so I just tried to reproduce my lazy GNOME setup from before. < 1336027593 966807 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But GNOME 3. < 1336027607 46425 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I'm running xfce but with gnome-settings-daemon because I wanted something that gnome-settings-daemon did. < 1336027618 558505 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also I'm running both NetworkManager and WICD at the same time, I think? < 1336027640 833792 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds inadvisable < 1336027654 223467 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have a loop that runs "disable-capslock; xmodmap $REMAP_CAPSLOCK_THINGY" every two seconds, because xfce randomly interferes with GNOME's keyboard settings. < 1336027674 419341 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1336027687 439571 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should just set xmonad up. < 1336027693 302168 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use wpa-supplicant, nothing higher level than that < 1336027705 933129 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to get GNOME 2 to a perfectly usable state. I don't need much out of my WM. < 1336027711 64360 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did they have to go mess it up? < 1336027736 805814 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because GNOME < 1336027790 8571 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336027793 456200 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you run into trouble setting up xmonad, or just haven't got around to it? < 1336027812 60094 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what about plain xfce, no GNOME? < 1336027836 270949 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just haven't gotten around to it. < 1336027842 925283 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a really old xmonad.hs somewhere. < 1336027852 976583 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, upgrading those can be a pain < 1336027853 947206 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fine with that but gnome-settings-daemon did a few things that xfce didn't, or something. < 1336027866 831590 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there is another way to do those things < 1336027881 649499 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which doesn't involve getting goatfucked by GNOME < 1336027895 313512 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1336027901 977993 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it sounded like so much effort at the time. < 1336027904 488375 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is really kind of a worrying state of affairs < 1336027915 905469 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things like "set up multiple keyboard layouts without messing with Xorg.conf". < 1336027925 619673 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if GNOME is the main UI that's usable by beginners, but is hated and disowned by skilled programmers < 1336027935 664200 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :down that road lies PHP < 1336027976 798244 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a fair number of the skilled programmers i know run at least some parts of GNOME < 1336027980 576573 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe it's not so bad < 1336028004 92330 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really at the "don't care" stage. < 1336028016 793607 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want too much out of my WM. I mostly use full-screen windows anyway. < 1336028037 127089 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But GNOME 3 felt like an early beta or something -- so much was broken and the rest was uncustomizable. < 1336028141 335003 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: When are you going to write kmcwm? < 1336028163 725152 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was fun. < 1336028193 559472 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tech writing, had to write instructions on "any topic"... < 1336028201 510432 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I explained the basics of Magic. < 1336028292 477142 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Magic < 1336028296 66712 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does Magic work? < 1336028336 406717 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 pages for a basic primer on the subject, apparently. < 1336028347 589629 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "basic" I mean I even omitted a card type. < 1336028352 369253 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fuck planeswalkers) < 1336028355 392630 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336028432 916949 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, that's 9 pages with fairly defaulty TeX formatting. Large margins, ToC, whole page taken up by a picture of a card... < 1336028436 279546 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, whatever. < 1336028513 243610 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, computer modern because I'm lazy and the professor seems to like everything else I've turned in in it. :P < 1336028547 290393 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is a great way to get some unearned credibility < 1336028566 337931 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greater still when you're actually writing Pandoc. :P < 1336028572 37115 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is it as good as a clear plastic bider? < 1336028582 757247 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the dirtiest trick I ever pulled was, if I had a long sequence of algebraic manipulations, I would put the dodgiest step across a page break < 1336028585 544218 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: lol do you think the reader of this document will learn Magic as a result? < 1336028597 38089 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Quite plausibly. < 1336028599 341393 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: which input format? < 1336028603 193991 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dun dun dunnnnnn < 1336028606 337173 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Markdown. < 1336028612 568246 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's nice < 1336028624 362151 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Dodgy as in "unsure about it" or "don't feel like writing it out"? < 1336028642 647052 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like writing TeX, but much much easier on me. < 1336028690 5755 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsure < 1336028719 105111 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked using markdown for beamer slides < 1336028731 455891 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i did run into some limitations (which could have been fixed by writing a pandoc module, probably) < 1336028745 855759 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it takes pdflatex a long time to compile 100 slides! < 1336028757 403055 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i do another presentation I will seriously consider breaking it up and stitching the resulting pdfs < 1336028763 207881 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should've used that slidy thing! < 1336028766 768984 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a makefile < 1336028778 109607 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: *shrug* I've had bad experiences with HTML slideshows in the past < 1336028789 567956 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... I've been running my whole thing through Tup. < 1336028795 102195 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's Tup? < 1336028819 540945 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Build automation tool, vaguely like make with better algorithms behind it. < 1336028843 371869 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the nicest feature is its monitor, which can automatically rebuild stuff when the source has changed. < 1336028848 636851 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought it was the thing that puts multiple Postscript pages on a single printed page. < 1336028856 901097 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336028859 788949 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gittup.org/tup/\ < 1336028862 655752 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1336028863 645640 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1336028863 722265 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gittup.org/tup/ < 1336028865 670377 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing. < 1336028871 623271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter is psnup. < 1336028879 969990 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1336028884 236085 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of "2-up". < 1336028904 234971 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typically like using it as I dev for fairly quick feedback on things. < 1336028912 762051 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing if something compiles is as easy as :w < 1336028941 956126 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually do that by hand with inotifywait < 1336028947 959352 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hand" < 1336028976 180370 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame that TeX building is a royal pain to automate with it, though. < 1336028993 974802 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as TeX spews files all over the place and sometimes needs to run multiple times...) < 1336028997 24302 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336029004 851317 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's little opportunity for partial recompilation < 1336029009 496298 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have just a flat document < 1336029026 533102 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame that TeX is what it is. < 1336029040 360359 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So good and so bad all at the same time. < 1336029072 986986 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good enough that no one will ever replace it, or something. < 1336029075 299909 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336029096 16615 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along one dimension, at least. < 1336029124 465522 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its output is good enough that it'd be really hard to even come close. < 1336029146 867551 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's the most popular Pascal program around these days. < 1336029174 779606 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1336029179 584053 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's the only one on my system. < 1336029234 838763 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does tup know which files etc. your compiler read? < 1336029240 139009 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it use something like ptrace < 1336029242 357471 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Did you know execl("/usr/bin/tex", NULL); // => Segmentation fault < 1336029246 6456 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think it uses FUSE? < 1336029252 400678 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaa < 1336029261 352272 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/gittup/fuse < 1336029271 552487 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Linux, it creates a FUSE filesystem in a dot directory, and runs the command there. < 1336029282 142075 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Windows, it does some hack similar to LD_PRELOAD. < 1336029300 165882 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If LD_PRELOAD and/or ptrace is acceptable why can't it do that for both? < 1336029318 172661 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUSe seems like overkill. < 1336029328 782729 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1336029331 56133 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUSE is quite a bit better than LD_PRELOAD for the purpose. I bet ptrace would work decently, though. < 1336029348 386637 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, does ptrace work on OS X? < 1336029350 725292 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are various situations where LD_PRELOAD would fail < 1336029355 529868 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently ptrace sucks on OS X < 1336029360 705760 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are other Mach interfaces you can use < 1336029369 264476 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUSE works on every remaining UNIX, though. < 1336029374 147764 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336029383 573782 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I guess it's more reasonable in Windows because LD_PRELOAD-hookable functions are the *only* portable way to access the filesystem. < 1336029398 223725 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry, every remaining UNIX *but OpenBSD*. < 1336029405 334893 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Solaris have FUSE? < 1336029410 200899 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336029414 789808 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(come on guys, even Hurd has FUSE!) < 1336029433 711223 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurd *is* FUSE, man < 1336029434 64885 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336029434 768860 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336029437 336567 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about actual Unix®? Does it work on Unix®? < 1336029442 146499 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get Mosh working on Hurd < 1336029449 22330 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they implemented FUSE by making a wrapper library. < 1336029453 89868 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be a laff < 1336029471 884380 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be a supported platform for Debian wheezy! < 1336029473 805027 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much time, so little to do! < 1336029479 313816 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It doesn't get more actual than the BSDs. < 1336029491 187849 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: It -- does, doesn't it? < 1336029508 718597 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does AIX have FUSE? < 1336029518 64388 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean AT&T Unix. < 1336029520 68641 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but can you call that "remaining"? < 1336029529 101100 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :latest stable release October 2011 < 1336029532 508756 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to Wikipedia < 1336029536 625195 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Nah. < 1336029538 476224 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought you meant "remaining after you rule out Linux". < 1336029547 549476 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Bah, humbug. < 1336029550 256901 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :latest release of HP-UX was last month! < 1336029563 63240 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "remaining" as in "not dead or effectively so". < 1336029588 677185 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because your hippie friends can't afford a real UNIX doesn't mean they're dead < 1336029591 680946 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1336029607 517490 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strictly speaking, that was 2007. < 1336029617 958546 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HP is just contractually obligated to provide patches until 2013. < 1336029618 785307 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs SCO OpenUNIX. < 1336029628 203838 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a MINIX release in February < 1336029635 8821 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, MINIX 3. < 1336029636 630507 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's real. < 1336029638 286284 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-243-105.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336029642 904491 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, MINIX. Yeah, that doesn't have FUSE. < 1336029643 80623 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so HP-UX will actually go away in 2013? < 1336029647 237093 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :As real as HURD, anyway. < 1336029651 746170 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1336029654 177729 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2011/xv6.html < 1336029658 330343 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIX will stay around forever. < 1336029665 848615 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully. < 1336029684 571930 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't actually read the xv6 source, JOS is more interesting < 1336029685 628512 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before that, they released in 2003, then 2002, 2001, 2000, 1997, 1996, 1995, 1992, 1991... And so on. < 1336029714 550396 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1991 was a good year. < 1336029718 954634 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that at least *suggests* HP-UX isn't going to last. < 1336029739 259922 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and it's for PA-RISC and Itanium machines only. < 1336029750 421958 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336029764 433208 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AKA "dead" and "only technically alive", respectively. < 1336029770 433210 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOS is pretty neat < 1336029778 214461 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you implement copy-on-write fork() in userspace! < 1336029783 251716 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kernel gives you just enough rope to do so < 1336029793 211490 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336029794 453553 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the last PA-RISC came out in 2005. Some 3 orders of magnitude ago.) < 1336029799 740909 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's JOS? < 1336029813 160497 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in MIT's 6.828 you write portions of an OS named JOS < 1336029823 179139 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the materials are all online; you should check it out < 1336029837 116862 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, a teaching OS sort of thing. < 1336029844 69994 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336029865 821556 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks neat. < 1336029870 233870 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should learn more about this topic. < 1336029871 38582 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't figure out why AIX is still alive, but then, this is IBM. < 1336029874 40896 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they call it an "exokernel" < 1336029884 696417 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was never clear to me exactly what this means < 1336029898 909409 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They support a 50 year old ISA. < 1336029923 412576 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they designed that ISA at the outset knowing they would support it for 50 years :D < 1336029929 870443 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :System/360? < 1336029934 646318 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336029955 25983 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Oh, wow, I can believe they did. < 1336029957 148596 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, they've extended it a lot, and now include support for 3 address sizes < 1336029958 567455 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was meant from the beginning to be a kind of virtual thing that would upgrade to newer hardware < 1336029963 719022 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :32-bit addressing in *1964*?!? < 1336029965 489352 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol 31 bit architecture < 1336029978 483633 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: it started as 24-bit < 1336030002 557264 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, I'm confusing 360 and 370 again < 1336030009 334918 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'm discussing the ISA, not early implementations thereof. < 1336030012 261014 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i am too < 1336030036 933860 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ISA allowed 32-bit addresses even though the early chips didn't work when you went beyond 2^24. < 1336030065 668604 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is ridiculous. < 1336030069 221477 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like x86-64 today < 1336030122 142594 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the primitive IPC message in JOS is a machine int plus optionally a page mapping < 1336030126 682709 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you could operate on 128-bit values. < 1336030157 482192 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I think early ones couldn't do arithmetic or anything like that on them) < 1336030175 803333 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :early IBM machines had hardware support for pre-decimal British £sd money < 1336030200 609047 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1336030215 126413 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact there were several different formats for storing same < 1336030220 300574 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you could select with a front panel knob < 1336030240 569043 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish my computer had knobs. :-( < 1336030306 433123 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And blinkenlights? < 1336030366 283447 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun stuff about z/Architecture is that you have something like 19 address spaces you can switch between and access with special instructions < 1336030410 504239 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/IBM_1401_Control_Panel.jpg < 1336030415 651460 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IBM PENCE BSI SHILL" < 1336030422 203703 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :home, primary, secondary, plus 16 "Access Registers" < 1336030440 809160 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :64-bit, 31-bit... Presumably also 24-bit, just in case someone needs to run really weird FORTRAN, and? < 1336030451 463079 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, address spaces, not schemes. < 1336030464 647222 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can attach some knobs and blinkenlights quite easily < 1336030479 593692 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had an analog CPU meter for a while < 1336030488 606476 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never asked for blinkenlichten. < 1336030501 756561 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This computer has three pseudo-buttons. < 1336030504 63392 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZEfExBBiY < 1336030507 941633 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them sends Super-X. < 1336030529 827135 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them dims the screen by slightly less than the regular Fn-dim-screen button. < 1336030555 741609 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third one pops up a big ⊘ on the screen. < 1336030589 457133 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sounds incredibly useful < 1336030606 453270 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't it just? < 1336030616 258425 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I need to get my laundry from Outside. < 1336030621 197618 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That's awesome. < 1336030639 71460 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there used to be a Ksplice blog post about how i made it < 1336030640 173357 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pouts < 1336030647 989142 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's just an arduino and a resistor and a small python script < 1336030669 533930 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone on reddit was like "LAME Y DIDN'T U TAP CPU POWER PINS N00B" < 1336030677 726503 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't change the awesome. < 1336030679 2734 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an ammeter, you see < 1336030691 933982 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tap CPU power pins? Eeeek. < 1336030709 315747 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my laser cutter has a meter on the front panel < 1336030711 985355 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :labeled "Amperemeter" < 1336030713 320090 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336030718 804598 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analog is the new digital. < 1336030719 647705 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that ugly serif font used for Latin letters in Chinese fonts < 1336030726 508645 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the same font is on the rest of the front panel) < 1336030734 269430 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't say anywhere what component it's measuring the amperes of < 1336030770 820729 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the lid interlock switch doesn't work, I should do something about that < 1336030782 18451 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ugly-large monospace. < 1336030814 936482 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: an awesome suckless CPU meter, done right, that celebrates craftsmanship < 1336030867 228297 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dude < 1336030886 603318 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336030950 472835 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think it's cool to have an OS where the lowest level idea of how to send data around involves zero-copy transfers of page mappings < 1336030968 502773 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably some "real" microkernels that do this too < 1336030978 780489 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that what L4's known for? < 1336030997 336285 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336031014 489237 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i guess so < 1336031019 501908 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I came across a job ad that looked vaguely interesting today, but then I saw that it was for Ksplice. < 1336031025 878953 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336031026 948057 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1336031045 44574 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear people are still pretty happy there < 1336031048 61129 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could move to boston < 1336031051 70957 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also not move to boston < 1336031090 212334 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's so great why aren't you there? < 1336031099 999804 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always better on holiday < 1336031104 73870 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why we only work when we need the money < 1336031131 315017 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And on holiday we port mosh to GNU/HURD. < 1336031136 491067 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336031138 622665 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336031183 362033 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get my laundry. < 1336031192 363351 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how the cost of a 4kB memory copy compares to the overhead involved in mapping a new page < 1336031232 297152 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336031269 989352 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on x86 you mostly have to flush the TLB when context switching anyway < 1336031280 4078 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely? < 1336031284 425892 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, so some of that mapping overhead can be made to disappear into things that you have to do "anyway" < 1336031289 460313 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could hurt when the two processes are running simultaneously on different cores < 1336031296 120543 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you need to do an IPI to tell the other guy to flush his TLB < 1336031297 313687 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fun < 1336031307 625931 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can also do new mappings / increased privileges lazily < 1336031317 399596 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, 4kiB memory copy also messes with cache. 4kiB is a lot of cache. < 1336031339 451508 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: at the cost of at least one fault in the future < 1336031341 32018 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on architectures with tagged TLBs, it might be more painful relatively speaking < 1336031344 290528 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336031353 159244 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336031381 322847 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, my L1 is 512k... < 1336031404 243040 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336031628 219147 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's what those non-temporal move instructions are for < 1336031667 463223 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the TLB flush is a constant cost, while memory copy is not < 1336031670 745151 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there is probably a break-even point < 1336031714 970949 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether 4kB is still a reasonable page size these days. < 1336031731 393672 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like there are a lot of things that huge pages are reasonable for. < 1336031740 211032 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence why Linux now supports them. < 1336031747 762424 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1336031756 312230 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess it does the transparent huge pages thing these days. < 1336031760 737141 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1336031763 283407 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in theory. < 1336031769 950429 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automagic 2MiB pages if you turn it on. < 1336031818 609731 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi linux < 1336031827 111519 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You should draw a self-portrait of kmc. < 1336031842 854391 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1336031847 409492 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1336031919 374807 :wyldstallyns!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't draw self portraits of other people < 1336031924 57207 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PowerPC supports like 1 GB pages, doesn't it? < 1336031934 550068 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 does too, some models anyway < 1336031934 880701 :wyldstallyns!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't write someone else's autobiography < 1336031937 259913 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 16GB? < 1336031951 203399 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PowerPC also has a crazy half-hard-filled "inverted page table" TLB < 1336031953 196939 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was some architecture that supported that, anyway. < 1336031970 983119 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86-64 does 1GiB. < 1336031978 539846 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION added huge page support to JOS, but only for the kernel direct mapping < 1336031984 503403 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 could do 4TB pages by using a flag in the same manner it does 2MB/1GB pages < 1336032005 30087 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, 512GB pages < 1336032145 715054 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux also has a thing to transparently merge pages with the same content < 1336032178 381068 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1336032184 110243 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it find them? < 1336032186 655544 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for pages that aren't all-zero too? < 1336032204 819493 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1336032215 920166 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: by scanning all of memory periodically < 1336032220 428979 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's not enabled by default... < 1336032230 737781 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can improve memory consumption dramatically on machines hosting a large number of similar VMs < 1336032257 780683 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, hmm. < 1336032363 760051 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's enabled by default *but* only scans pages with the appropriate madvise() set. < 1336032386 799269 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_SamePage_Merging_(KSM) ? < 1336032387 656781 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah < 1336032390 645004 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MADV_MERGEABLE, apparently. < 1336032484 961081 :ais523_!~ais523@147.188.254.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336032490 712779 :ais523_!~ais523@147.188.254.178 QUIT :Changing host < 1336032490 730935 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336032490 731086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1336032503 185798 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336032743 637487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336032748 494310 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336032755 934065 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336033087 640945 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Was there a verdict about mosh mouse? < 1336033102 713106 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were just talking about that in #mosh < 1336033123 354935 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the verdict is that it's a mess and i don't want to do it < 1336033124 234884 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/keithw/mosh/issues/101 < 1336033134 934233 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes, you were. < 1336033142 733785 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is #mosh the place to be? < 1336033182 568367 :Zuu_!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336033252 149457 :Lymee!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1336033293 589334 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336033293 756902 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336033294 75569 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336033331 406278 :qfr!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf JOIN :#esoteric < 1336033507 213783 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is... a place to be < 1336033523 594244 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get a mosh project hostname cloak < 1336033528 981473 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i failed to discover how to do that < 1336033542 941218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you have to ask the group contact for the projet < 1336033544 887212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*project < 1336033548 787589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and be identified on freenode < 1336033587 194155 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i find out who the group contact for a project is < 1336033592 99259 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be me < 1336033594 930297 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm the founder of #mosh < 1336033646 133688 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: SOunds like you're in trouble. < 1336033651 507157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a group contact? the channel would have to be registered with Freenode < 1336033658 910861 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be like drawing a self-portrait of *yourself*. < 1336033662 541836 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A self-self-portrait. < 1336033667 804416 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, man < 1336033669 524595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just with chanserv, but with the people in charge of running the servers < 1336033678 945209 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336033715 544666 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Freenode FAQ talks about it, but it seems to be down. < 1336033720 532474 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336033721 901775 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably has something to do with the splits. < 1336033734 787201 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :netshits < 1336033804 780483 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?strip=1&q=cache:freenode.net/faq.shtml < 1336033835 401357 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get a cloak. < 1336033883 540669 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :paperwork :/ < 1336033944 105349 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you make elliott an op he would take care of the paperwork for you. < 1336033949 648812 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He would also go crazy and ban everybody. < 1336033963 659152 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i... won't do that < 1336034012 777812 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually he probably wouldn't do either of those things. < 1336034051 414419 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have to be affiliated with MIT to get a .mit.edu subdomain for your project? < 1336034122 762561 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know exactly what the rules are < 1336034129 99331 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :affiliation is a slippery thing at MIT < 1336034156 869183 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should try to get one. I was in an MIT building once. < 1336034166 878663 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably good for seeming legitimate. < 1336034208 932786 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :many student groups will let you join without ever having been officially affiliated with MIT < 1336034219 843828 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can also sponsor an Athena account for you, whether or not you join their group < 1336034229 234178 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if that alone is enough to get domain names < 1336034386 378692 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, it is good for seeming legitimate < 1336034398 297142 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least one person told us they would have assumed our software is insecure if not for the .mit.edu domain name < 1336035143 581408 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336035410 670840 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I guess I would need to move to Boston. < 1336036506 248845 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to join an MIT club? < 1336036722 116132 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not. < 1336036727 298744 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did a SIPB thing here once. < 1336036776 280110 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, really? < 1336036777 486081 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it < 1336036809 205253 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could move to Cambridge or Somerville or Brookline instead < 1336036868 485346 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Newton < 1336036877 339267 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or other such places < 1336036939 909915 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIPB hackathon at Stripe in Palo Alto. < 1336036960 81856 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did they hack on? < 1336036962 385190 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debathena? XVM? < 1336036972 386389 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they just had a bunch of people go there. < 1336036983 854710 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that there was an overarching thing. < 1336037042 106750 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should join SIPB < 1336037053 487518 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how much effort this would take < 1336039475 864480 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-225-103.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336039481 470494 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-113-160.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336039684 420325 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-116-225.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336039763 916056 :cheater!~cheater@g229020248.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1336039893 60864 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336040560 330506 :cheater!~cheater@g230222243.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336041214 236765 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336041440 408320 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-113-160.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336041468 65845 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-34.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336043328 137572 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336043596 132797 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336043853 112541 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336043874 92720 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Super Mario Bros (along with many other Nintendo games) was proved to be NP-hard by Greg Aloupis, Erik Demaine and Alan Guoyz.[64]" :-D < 1336043890 468245 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1895v1.pdf < 1336043915 103672 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336043939 447107 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336043996 894224 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :includes a section on pokemon < 1336044147 728485 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-34.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336044708 310495 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-115-7.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336045055 976598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1336045276 125696 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336045388 288550 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336045931 859208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336046071 573327 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-225-103.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336046814 135995 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-234-209.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336046981 523909 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-115-7.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336047077 561173 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-201.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336047163 486094 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-234-209.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336047439 444974 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-124-18.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336047631 451462 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-201.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336048581 133312 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-112-39.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336048723 360315 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-124-18.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336049087 331598 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-112-39.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336049254 41464 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-86.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336049326 159730 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336049341 723213 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336049349 163395 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336049431 82694 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU JOIN :#esoteric < 1336049449 424804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Ngevd < 1336049463 603840 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see my half-esolang? < 1336049555 124841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was its name? < 1336049564 803993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's half-name. < 1336049568 352792 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :User:Taneb/Lowgate and Dilston < 1336049571 208582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: the Pokémon proof is actually incorrect, due to a glitch in Pokémon first generation < 1336049575 240680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: no, I didn't < 1336049576 296259 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've posted Lowgate < 1336049581 581332 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still need to define Dilston < 1336049593 444515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a chance that the exploding voltorbs will miss altogether; also, the gastly will level up from them < 1336049610 643646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and levelling up an l1 gastly takes it to l100, unless it gains a lot of exp all at once < 1336049617 906511 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the Collatz conjecture is false, at least one of Lowgate and Dilston is Turing-complete < 1336049674 15894 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Lowgate for infinite trajectories, Dilston for cycles) < 1336049746 604942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: the mere fact you made that statement makes me optimistic that this esolang won't be the usual rubbish that gets added to the wiki < 1336049801 645453 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336049812 780486 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lowgate is a Suffolk derivative, I'm afraid < 1336049823 58937 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Dilston will probably be a derivative of something else < 1336050349 639429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, Suffolk is not a boring language to make derivatives of, yet anyway < 1336050462 269174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: err, Suffolk doesn't depend on infinitely many accessible cells to work < 1336050467 90278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, you can access only a finite number < 1336050516 425821 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn. < 1336050523 205332 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here was me being all clever < 1336050579 500940 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually... < 1336050845 91657 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's good it's still in userspace < 1336050941 418509 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336050956 646600 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is the second time I've been annoyed at one of my languages being /too/ turing-complete < 1336051890 96251 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-123-229.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336051999 99096 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-86.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336052396 822460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336052451 319894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think David.werecat has the "Mark all edits minor by default" option on :P < 1336052451 500726 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1336052488 912465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:41 Sgeo said 7h 16m 25s ago: I just found out about http://www.zincland.com/7drl/kobold/ from TVTropes. Have you tried it? < 1336052489 264143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: go into the database and turn it off < 1336052493 694170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: kobolds aren't smart & i like them < 1336052496 534941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was going to ;) < 1336052505 397341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and Smart Kobolds, you should try that, I've been meaning to for quite a while < 1336052518 94212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't want to kill kobolds, and kobolds aren't smart! < 1336052525 567924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if Jeff Lait originally created it as a combination of making a point, and trolling < 1336052534 84267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what point? < 1336052591 439776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, MediaWiki 1.19 is out < 1336052623 964327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that better AI does not necessarily make for a better game < 1336052965 101002 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-112-137.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336053056 627295 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-123-229.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336053858 181746 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336053872 781519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1336055499 383695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb You should make Lowgate true iff Collatz is false, and Dilston true iff Collatz is true. < 1336055499 542313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336055517 857144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: prepare the fire extinguishers, please < 1336055530 266860 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm right here < 1336055542 40502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Ngevd You should make Lowgate true iff Collatz is false, and Dilston true iff Collatz is true. < 1336055542 210186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336055550 555497 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1336055550 725119 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 8s ago: You should make Lowgate true iff Collatz is false, and Dilston true iff Collatz is true. < 1336055555 692658 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1336055563 145996 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1336055563 305229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1336055567 54084 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1336055569 748868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you had other messages??? < 1336055577 729665 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad. < 1336055587 834696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Too bad." -- Ngevd, horrible. < 1336055594 41809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I'm going to break the wiki! < 1336055598 634416 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1336055618 318873 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yay!" -- Ngevd, still horrible. < 1336055973 80832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Will you do that? < 1336055980 309352 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not < 1336055993 261838 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of any way of making a language that's iff either way < 1336056018 621863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Well, you could make it so that the only way to get new storage is to go to the next element in the Collatz sequence. < 1336056025 713575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where variables are identified by integers.) < 1336056038 447885 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the current version of Lowgate < 1336056054 957150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way, if every sequence reaches 1, every program gets a finite amount of memory. < 1336056055 128994 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the Collatz conjecture is also false if there is a positive loop other than 1-4-2-1 < 1336056073 911574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but a loop also stops you getting infinite memory. < 1336056077 279391 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if there's a loop but no infinite ascent, that wouldn't be turing complete < 1336056078 519030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you'll just loop through the same few variables. < 1336056089 927237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1336056092 803687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point. < 1336056100 64157 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence the two languages < 1336056325 582578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Pang. < 1336056592 117394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: gnap? < 1336056610 900208 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think the response is pung?) < 1336056620 116740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care I@m too tired < 1336056643 771495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't care I@m too tired" -- ais523, 2012 < 1336056658 898106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :""I don't care I@m too tired" -- ais523, 2012" — elliott, 2012 < 1336056667 925973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, I got the em dash treatment. < 1336056670 53195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's classy. < 1336056671 120007 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you're something to do with education in Birmingham, right? < 1336056678 390363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 *is* education in Birmingham. < 1336056685 476154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I spent much of the morning marking exams < 1336056699 924165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I spent the time from around 6am to around 7am reading Usenet and fixing aimake < 1336056706 898001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyway, I'm going to make Esolang's MediaWiki sourced from git so that upgrading is less annoying. < 1336056709 693736 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, can you reccomend Birmingham University? < 1336056717 136727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Should I use the WMF branches or the MediaWiki tags? < 1336056721 11309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*release tags? < 1336056735 410583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: *reccommendd < 1336056759 553353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: for what? it depends on what subject you're doing < 1336056769 158603 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maths, most likely < 1336056770 72432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gymnastics and dog theory < 1336056771 991081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the atmosphere here, at least < 1336056780 718422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You're not doing gymnastics and dog theory??? < 1336056788 706871 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, don't have the GCSEs. < 1336056790 825432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're coming here next year, you should do maths and CS so I can teach you :) < 1336056813 237820 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, September 2013? < 1336056843 929836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm, it'd probably have to be september 2012 unless they decide that they have to hire me for another year in an emergency < 1336056876 18085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :their problem is that the budget is too small to hire new staff or even retain existing staff, also that they don't really have enough teaching staff < 1336056888 598099 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sucks? < 1336056900 303535 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, tell me how things go < 1336056910 759052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're putting me in charge of the first year Java course next year (rather than just teaching it without being in charge) because they can't find anyone else with the knowledge to do the job < 1336056924 453289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I pointed out that it'd only last for one more year before my contract expires < 1336056950 858345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that they're not paying much more than minimum wage < 1336056960 793568 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1336057020 358944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, the person who was doing it before they kept on for a year, maybe two years, after their PhD because he'd become so essential to the running of the department < 1336057028 187363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing you're WOLFRAM RICH* < 1336057033 867386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think he only left because Aston University poached him by offering more money < 1336057034 934674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not rich, by analogy with "Wolfram science", etc. < 1336057053 562257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: meh, it paid for three years of my education and living costs, that's a reasonably significant amount < 1336057146 417629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, ais523 didn't answer my question :'( < 1336057415 395066 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how desperate is Birmingham University for students? < 1336057422 326866 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-198-36.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336057433 748517 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-205-152.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336057455 802706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: depends on the subject < 1336057466 610682 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For CS and Maths < 1336057469 626636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have ridiculously large numbers of students in some departments, like electronics < 1336057479 494713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*like economics < 1336057486 400235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have to bribe them for others, like engineering < 1336057507 524001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Go wherever Phantom_Hoover's going and become the ultimate brickbraining team. < 1336057524 134691 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, Cambridge!? < 1336057539 57789 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like there maths syllabus < 1336057539 558255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for CS, I think they get enough applications that they can afford to be selective < 1336057542 935294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I think Cambridge rejected him. < 1336057547 712291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because he's Scottish. < 1336057549 482979 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, okay < 1336057561 16694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some place in the middle of nowhere in Scotland. < 1336057584 697350 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he got into a Scottish universities, I can pretend to be Dutch to get university for free < 1336057668 737005 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, I'm beginning to think of universities < 1336057693 92189 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've just accidentally opened Rome Total War, brb < 1336057700 837008 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89B0C.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336057707 900852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 15:52 ais523: Should I use the WMF branches or the MediaWiki tags? < 1336057708 775937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336057731 449801 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-244-235.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336057747 903436 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1336057764 283727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, I actually don't know < 1336057792 945508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: scottish universities have a bunch of advantages over english universities (well, the main one is to do with cost) < 1336057812 629897 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time TO CLAIM TO BE DUTCH < 1336057817 766337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the WMF branches will be more up-to-date and the like, but they might be a bit less stable. (Even if they are used on Wikipedia, the WMF employs a bunch of sysadmins to fix it when it breaks.) < 1336057826 806331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'd have to update less with the release tags. < 1336058454 342637 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336058630 449463 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1336058655 243847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336058665 193722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336058728 211916 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how much is university typically in the UK? < 1336058744 699235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I don't know, because it was massively increased recently (as in, since I went there) < 1336058756 434410 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much was it when you went < 1336058757 343201 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336058757 512739 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9000 a year < 1336058761 944998 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now < 1336058769 938002 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maximum, not including living costs) < 1336058773 125121 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1336058783 747553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: £1150, but I got a £1000 discount the first year, and £500 subsequent years, for good academic performance < 1336058789 48689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, this doesn't include living costs < 1336058791 555255 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheaper than US, I believe < 1336058795 637778 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: true < 1336058806 958003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: although you get a low-interest loan for the full amount and don't have to pay it back until you start earning money < 1336058819 740507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it basically ends up equivalent to a percentage tax that stops being charged eventually < 1336058821 724294 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's the same here < 1336058832 600800 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually < 1336058846 719549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the government had flavoured it as that, they'd probably get a lot less flak for it; it pretty much single-handedly sank the Liberal Democrat party < 1336058848 394136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"University costs in X are better than the US" is a tautology for all X =/= US. < 1336058859 217202 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1336058871 446627 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Domestic tuition here is cheaper, than that, but international tuition is more. < 1336058880 526245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think what sank the lib dems is doing that *because they said they wouldn't*. < 1336058924 78259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the ridiculous thing is that what the lib dems were actually proposing was strictly worse for the students < 1336058927 570508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think that's the only reason the Lib Dems are fucked, though.) < 1336058931 554383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just none of them paid attention < 1336058962 324035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It still isn't very good for trust if you explicitly do something you campaigned on the premise of not doing, though. < 1336058971 531957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336058981 303053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*promise (although premise works too) < 1336058988 600902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, what I'm saying is that the government pulled a stupid move in not using the conservative proposal with the lib dem flavour < 1336058997 476886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would have kept pretty much everyone happy < 1336059007 541595 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about £12500/yr for an international student at my school < 1336059010 324734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from the people who want tuition fees to be abolished altogether < 1336059023 849780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the Conservatives are getting a terrible reputation as well as the Lib Dems. < 1336059082 708571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess next time we'll elect the BNP or something on account of nobody liking the big three any more. < 1336059106 855535 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elect the omrlp < 1336059124 442499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: They're indistinguishable from all the other parties. < 1336059125 117674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you realise that there's a Green MP atm, right? < 1336059137 847816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sign that people are taking fourth options seriously < 1336059139 514466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK, coalition of the Greens and NBP. < 1336059141 991808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*BNP < 1336059146 421964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The Best Government Ever(TM). < 1336059151 498228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd never go into coalition with each other < 1336059157 242144 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, needs more George Galloway < 1336059165 570222 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, I didn't realize you guys got a green mp too < 1336059176 605684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: we never do, except this time we did < 1336059191 149407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Green-BNP coalition might work out, on account of the government wouldn't be able to do a single thing. < 1336059195 638396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :she picked her seat very carefully, it was a case of picking the seat they thought they were most likely to win and then focusing a load of campaign effort on it < 1336059212 37512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, we should have a pirate party/ninja party coalition < 1336059219 57799 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ninja party is a thing? < 1336059224 255731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336059229 874302 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: same here < 1336059235 241469 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's make it a thing? < 1336059246 61653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: what would its policies even be? < 1336059259 289847 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :she picked her riding well < 1336059260 366944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: pro-copyright < 1336059264 70600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-talk like a pirate day < 1336059278 783877 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :move like a ninja day < 1336059282 316752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think they'd be defined by being the exact opposite of the pirate party < 1336059288 860628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it'd be a parallel with different goals < 1336059298 503218 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Promoting language education? < 1336059301 648059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. apathetic about copyright and pirate speech, but very motivated about a couple of other issues < 1336059308 630133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In the same way that ninjas are analogous to pirates with different goals? < 1336059321 221068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more like they have the same goal but very different methods. < 1336059325 150600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The goal is killing people, or something. < 1336059327 267151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, OK < 1336059349 646826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ninjas should also be in favour of copyright reform, but instead of stealing it, would rather just massacre people who tried to enforce it? < 1336059351 719917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1336059354 803885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right! < 1336059360 477508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Stealing copyright reform?) < 1336059378 266051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: /illegally downloading/ copyright reform < 1336059382 571464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get your terminology right… < 1336059388 241839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're the one who said stealing! < 1336059399 582390 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with a ninja government is that they'd never be able to prove that the commons got quorum < 1336059410 218778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't download copyright reform... < 1336059422 102977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it's actually *steal. < 1336059425 821113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mind mentally fixed the advert. < 1336059430 254471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to physically fixing it. < 1336059486 784128 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is TIME to WALK my DOG < 1336059492 235086 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: walking dog < 1336059508 916815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always new Ngevd was a walking dog. < 1336059533 564731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*knew < 1336059651 364400 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's copyright violation for the rights in the fixation of a performance < 1336059667 317126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: wat < 1336059683 844812 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you don't have a PhD, right? < 1336059690 262962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has 523 < 1336059694 414275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I'm currently obtaining one < 1336059695 598054 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my bad < 1336059696 999476 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1336059717 800631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Once you get a Ph.D., you should sign your emails "ais, 523 Ph.D.". < 1336059722 565566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And FOOL EVERYONE. < 1336059738 865048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, it's devious. < 1336059773 33578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr. s523 < 1336059784 961911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean you're an AI? < 1336059816 904950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1336059832 772645 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're researching programming languages, right? < 1336059855 51867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9243475/lists-c-homework/9247613#9247613 what a comment section < 1336059860 461971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I'm researching compiling high-level languages to hardware, which involves inventing new ones < 1336059864 995340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: he's doing hardware programming language stuff < 1336059881 726347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there were no modern variants of algol specialised for hardware, oddly enough < 1336059888 404061 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1336059893 723619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :z < 1336059908 789784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote coppro: I'm researching compiling high-level languages to hardware, which involves inventing new ones because there were no modern variants of algol specialised for hardware, oddly enough < 1336059918 476862 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :852) coppro: I'm researching compiling high-level languages to hardware, which involves inventing new ones because there were no modern variants of algol specialised for hardware, oddly enough < 1336059936 759676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can't expand the 128 more comments link without turning on JS < 1336059945 309044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the last comment above the fold is hilarious enough by itself < 1336059946 701310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're lucky < 1336059960 780416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, that's amazing < 1336059962 931434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of a few ways it could go from there; which did it actually do? < 1336059981 215863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eznme proceeded to spoon-feed beginnernato for a hundred comments < 1336059987 75298 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahahah < 1336059992 385102 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that question is totally from a UW student < 1336060004 831691 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that code is /definitely/ from our second CS course < 1336060010 690394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: legitimate info or trolling? < 1336060014 13406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION upvotes the last comment above the fold < 1336060023 416094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: legitimate (albeit academically dishonest on beginnernato's part, naturally) < 1336060034 122807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, I just ment on eznme's part < 1336060051 273568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and probably not too ethical on eznme's part by consequence) < 1336060051 335108 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how does an answer get 128 comments and exactly 1 vote? < 1336060059 397247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because only two people are participating in it < 1336060065 449621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're using it as a chatroom < 1336060067 791230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, eznme may well turn out to be the prof who set the problem < 1336060080 859883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite the warning that will have appeared for about 120 of them < 1336060096 794895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it says, roughly, "don't use comments for extended discussion, if you click this link we'll turn it into a Stack Overflow chatroom for you") < 1336060222 794979 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eznme was definitely not the prof < 1336060290 14854 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prof almost certainly would not have given away the answers < 1336060300 145329 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not so quickly < 1336060337 110644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: there's several tales of profs giving away the answer immediately so that they could catch plagiarism red-handed if it was actually used unchanged < 1336060344 881613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although more commonly for essay-writing than in CS < 1336060428 785579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, running git as root < 1336060472 222695 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, huh < 1336060484 110193 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I appear to have gained several thousand reputation since last time I was visiting stackoverflow O_o < 1336060497 931861 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost 2k < 1336060499 365705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :several _thousand_? < 1336060504 321965 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336060510 169520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have an answer with 396 votes < 1336060512 335008 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336060512 662068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably explains i < 1336060513 730388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1336060521 170204 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it keeps getting more < 1336060525 74437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, from 2008 < 1336060531 450721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :viewed 64,682 times < 1336060534 675633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tagged [c++-faq] < 1336060536 417859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won the jackpot < 1336060556 301693 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336060566 937832 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm nearly a moderator due largely to that question < 1336060577 430003 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS SYSTEM IS SMRT < 1336060578 850795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"moderator" generally refers to the elected moderators < 1336060583 281858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 10k moderator tools are... not as impressive < 1336060609 753054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mostly just get to see flags and to second or disagree with them (not act on them), and things like recently closed questions < 1336060618 800367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I think if I edited that post, it'd become community wiki and you'd stop getting any rep on it < 1336060626 950510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so tempting why can't this client do bold < 1336060660 496831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you lose rep if a post you got rep for becomes community wiki? < 1336060669 186764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh no, you asked one of those terrible "What's your favourite X feature?" questions :( < 1336060675 75347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, you just stop getting any more rep < 1336060741 624205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks how http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/05/01/2146232/android-ported-to-c is getting on < 1336060752 169887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that URL is misleading < 1336060754 775383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not loading, it seems < 1336060759 950386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it's missing the # < 1336060763 336735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the flamewars slashdotted slashdot < 1336060772 374391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, remember when everybody's servers sucked and slashdotting was a thing??? < 1336060782 175992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 503 < 1336060788 747468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, sort-of < 1336060794 840939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was only around for the tail end of it, though < 1336060801 402663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit still manages to slashdot sites now and again, though < 1336060801 564121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet nethack4.org could be slashdotted. < 1336060808 766600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1336060819 556765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's more because people don't know how to configure WordPress than reddit sending tons of traffic < 1336060823 212211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the patch-tag page on AceHack /was/ slashdotted < 1336060831 247717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, indeed < 1336060834 653508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it held up < 1336060837 109256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AceHack got on slashdot? < 1336060843 413759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep :) < 1336060848 103347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, as a standalone post? < 1336060852 177557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or as part of a post about NetHack variants? < 1336060852 841423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a bunch of other variants < 1336060854 298923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter seems more believable < 1336060859 269256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336060865 478300 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you edit it, it doesn't become community wiki unless you choose to make it so < 1336060875 601622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no, if it gets edited by 5 other people it becomes CW < 1336060881 972920 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1336060889 62627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but you can flag it to be put back by a moderator, if other people have only made minor edits) < 1336060898 812547 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336060922 770625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(elected moderator again, not 10k) < 1336060937 82879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336060951 819441 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336060996 274763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott@solidity:/srv/esolangs.org/www/mediawiki-new/extensions$ for ext in AbuseFilter AntiSpoof CheckUser ConfirmEdit Nuke ParserFunctions Renameuser Vector WikiEditor; do sudo git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/$ext.git; done < 1336060998 38979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1336061025 694038 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is nuke? ban a user and rollback all their edits? < 1336061054 675920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mass deletes pages created by a certain user < 1336061062 975696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was designed for Wikipedia vandals and Esolang really has no use for it < 1336061067 227143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't not enable such a destructive extension < 1336061140 555748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336061143 573774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does git track permissions? < 1336061149 244683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it tracks at least +x, I guess < 1336061206 519904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336061251 336006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336061261 54708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my connection :( < 1336061882 971273 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336062113 879887 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : No, I think Cambridge rejected him. < 1336062115 130299 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lies! < 1336062125 744400 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an offer, although it's not really a pleasant one. < 1336062138 734792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Offer: "Go die in a fire, you Scottish asswipe." < 1336062175 521761 :Zuu_!zuu@77.215.149.86 NICK :Zuu < 1336062206 178504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey shachaf, I'm reading a poor blog post about Haskell! < 1336062518 55022 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for some reason I'm downloading TortoiseSVN, except they've rigged the download page not to display if you're using an adblocker. < 1336062561 688015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Windows" — Phantom_Hoover < 1336062574 900322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, it just plain doesn't display. < 1336062606 49064 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're... right. < 1336062610 656772 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1336062627 627852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obviously trivial to find the downloads. < 1336062631 990779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why would you want TortoiseSVN? < 1336062651 482534 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some idiot mod authors decided to make theirs available through SVN. < 1336062664 571264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...how is that idiotic? And since when does that mean you need to use TortoiseSVN? < 1336062683 246583 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm literally following the instructions on their website. < 1336062703 487513 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also c'mon, mods are not exactly aimed at a demographic who can use SVN. < 1336062719 580087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ping? coppro: Ping? Deewiant: Ping? Does anyone know git? :p < 1336062742 619991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, you're doing well to show you're well inside the technically-incompetent demographic you're talking about. < 1336062782 710213 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why, because I follow instructions rather than critiquing every step? < 1336062843 434629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you follow instructions telling you how to check something out from SVN using a Windows GUI, rather than just checking it out using SVN itself, and then treat being unable to obtain the GUI tool as a roadblock? < 1336062920 319080 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I took the path of least resistance rather than spending five minutes finding out how to use SVN on Windows? < 1336062941 922423 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why am I even biting. < 1336063053 167067 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336063101 106066 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336063249 721511 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FYI, the Subversion site itself links to 3 GUIs, a 32-bit build on SourceForge and a broken page. < 1336063291 920635 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're going to call me an idiot at least do it properly. < 1336063331 743748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a 32-bit build!!! < 1336063352 353365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost as if the vast majority of Windows applications are 32-bit :P < 1336063376 485259 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 32-bit build is the last of five downloads. < 1336063390 627214 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I know, it makes me feel so unclean. < 1336063449 67708 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336063469 147308 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's up? < 1336063472 333491 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you want to do? < 1336063475 185900 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336063487 29183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: if I change the ownership/permissions of a directory tracked by git, will it notice? < 1336063492 77879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. does it track that stuff? < 1336063494 209960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget < 1336063496 543508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it tracks at least +x < 1336063530 611565 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tracks exactly +x < 1336063554 462502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, I'm not changing +x :) < 1336063576 374170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the files all have mode 644 or 755: git actually only pays attention to the executable bit". -- them manual. < 1336063625 485418 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem 2: about all I know of svn is that you use svn clone to download, and the Windows build apparently doesn't install an svn command. < 1336063639 985586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if git checkout-index does submodules. < 1336063659 243204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Maybe you *would* be better off with TortoiseSVN. < 1336063660 215424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "svn checkout", there is no "svn clone". < 1336063685 437575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess probably: not.) < 1336063689 296089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(re submodules.) < 1336063779 98042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336063803 81328 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336063806 584213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How would you create a copy of a git repository including submodules without the .git? < 1336063846 250313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is trying to make Esolang's MediaWiki installation + extensions sourced from the git repos (and maintain LocalSettings.php in it too), but each extension is in a separate git repository, so... < 1336063851 82813 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely git archive can do it? < 1336063869 508956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And MediaWiki's upgrade method means that I can't just reasonably maintain it in-place.) < 1336063877 861504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Does that do submodules? < 1336063883 519791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :submodules are kinda... second-class. < 1336063884 730744 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I would assume so. < 1336063890 951639 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336063892 684107 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of SHEER OPTIMISM < 1336063901 963536 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :More to the point, it's worth a try. < 1336063911 551672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying things is more difficult than asking people. < 1336063921 563954 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then let me answer you this way: < 1336063930 396234 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :git is fucking terrible, I don't know what it does because I hate it. < 1336063935 270472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1336064020 183987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I know about submodules is that I think they're kinda iffy. < 1336064041 693012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't really like them. But I can't think of a better way to maintain the extension directories. < 1336064134 939067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if all you need is in the working copy, maybe you could just rsync (or some other git-unaware tool) with suitable ignore rules for everything ".gitty". < 1336064158 198755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ignore/exclude/ < 1336064171 693838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That would work, but is disgusting. :( < 1336064203 59937 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336064205 395495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "GIT_WORK_TREE=/blah git checkout" might work. Except that doesn't do submodules either, does it... < 1336064209 242040 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336064213 543228 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helllo < 1336064229 15026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1336064262 199684 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336064281 563858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there are quite a few "git-archive-all" style scripts that do submodules too floating around the tubes. They all suck, of course. (I'm assuming that last part.) < 1336064333 479688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1336064467 225714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Dungeons&Dragons game, I saw a gnome riding on a donkey; I was hiding in the tree. And ask him, who is he? And stay hidden so that they cannot find us. But then the wizard said he knows him his name is Git and he exited from the hiding and then I did too soon afterward < 1336064473 249185 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: "svn checkout", there is no "svn clone". < 1336064474 719642 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1336064506 14643 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I basically don't know anything about RCSes other than that there are like a billion of them and they all make downloading things that bit more complicated. < 1336064514 159614 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336064523 103227 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is facetious. < 1336064591 927906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have read that the git version system was named after its inventor even though that wasn't his name < 1336064598 360684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Git Torvalds < 1336064608 43312 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just feel zzo's confusion. < 1336064625 312615 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336064633 966477 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torvalds is just a git, that's all. < 1336064652 109966 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336064675 190065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You realise that's literally the origin of the name, right? < 1336064864 418959 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm unsurprised, but was unaware. < 1336064978 107567 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336065014 826578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, MediaWiki's file layout is incredibly annoying. < 1336065028 969592 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336065033 725468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really want to make Rasmus fucking Lerdorf hurt for making people put code in the same directory as data. < 1336065063 447128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(s/data/mutable data/ to appease the Lispers.) < 1336065128 70058 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336065255 815775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'll just do the terrible thing. < 1336065267 914506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that won't work. < 1336065301 633256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336065353 86747 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336065392 90583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336065412 671093 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336065858 489424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, this is super annoying. < 1336065868 678972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... guess I could do fizzie's rsync thing. < 1336065889 177808 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336065902 409898 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336065947 764448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO. < 1336066280 70116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I couldn't quite do fizzie's rsync thing. < 1336066313 9310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I could just forget about the .git thing and do < 1336066337 293037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git clone --recursive blah mediawiki-new && cd mediawiki-new && cp -a ../mediawiki/{the,stuff} . && sudo -u www-data php maintanence/update.php < 1336066339 747111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... ew. < 1336066877 305050 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336066921 553049 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.16 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336066930 411698 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336066980 42953 :cheater!~cheater@g230222243.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1336067756 247136 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-211-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336067756 589605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336067768 301458 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-198-36.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336067818 184927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336068128 140067 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336068158 278405 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336068244 78163 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336068330 249807 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336068628 193930 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336068809 246461 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336068820 263464 :cheater!~cheater@g230222243.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336069020 701208 :cheater!~cheater@g230222243.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Excess Flood < 1336069070 518853 :cheater!~cheater@g230222243.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336069140 467059 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336069801 317021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You should totally upgrade MediaWiki for me. < 1336069814 33803 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... no. < 1336069931 753042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That sounds like "yes" to me! < 1336069991 809550 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336070288 233696 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 QUIT : < 1336070351 466323 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336070422 337928 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you heard about the freedom of speech ranking? Finland, Norway and Sweden are on the first place, USA is on place 22 along with Estonia, Brittain is on the place 31 and on place 179 is North Korea < 1336070609 400456 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336070625 75343 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would respond, but I'd likely be arrestede < 1336070671 867053 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: where do you live < 1336070701 903414 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK < 1336070723 43471 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm one of the two Hexhamites < 1336070728 601887 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Hexham < 1336070731 501204 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1336070827 82647 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have found out that freenode only wants SASL certificate from users of the IPS I use < 1336070898 445732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"rage" < 1336070976 563754 :wyldstallyns!3283c4ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.131.196.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336071076 477792 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336071301 242513 :cheater!~cheater@g230222243.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336071332 513856 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net NICK :Tanebrb < 1336071423 466340 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336071437 93533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336071440 634010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, monqy < 1336071511 408914 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because webchat likes to throw me out at random I will be stalking the logs and commenting if I feels like it. When I really quit I will put qdb.us url as my quit message < 1336071524 217016 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336071561 467465 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other quits just mean that it will take longer for me to answer < 1336071578 496654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how awful < 1336071638 277520 :Tanebrb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336071639 731648 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1336071697 728478 :cheater!~cheater@g230222243.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336071890 210327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip monqy "died doing what he loved best: identifying things" < 1336071894 959628 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336071932 234793 :Tanebrb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336071955 350675 :Tanebrb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1336071956 426204 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336072057 880178 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336072184 879373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what happened < 1336072201 205462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrole of immolation < 1336072214 487178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll of ded < 1336072217 325882 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336072227 609782 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i wanted to survive i would have read fog and blinked < 1336072228 140858 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336072232 40922 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"who cares about that" < 1336072280 182281 :Foggalong!~Joshua@cpc12-shef11-2-0-cust44.barn.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336072285 642552 :Foggalong!~Joshua@cpc12-shef11-2-0-cust44.barn.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1336072366 519714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi foggalong < 1336072368 467101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye foggalong < 1336072510 219237 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1336072518 433441 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, tomorrow is DWARF FORTRESS DAY < 1336072518 754339 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Step one: Shave his bullet-deflecting mustache." < 1336072671 79748 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: STUFF < 1336072726 347156 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm an atheist for the next half hour, piss off." < 1336072893 967678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1336072904 318557 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The members of The Southern Brotherhood were planning to assassinate Tsar Alexander I when he would be attending military manouevres in Ukraine in 1826. But, in November 1825, the Tsar suddenly died, [thus shitting all over the Brotherhood's plans to kill him]". < 1336072946 85092 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good bye, elliott < 1336073060 183308 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolwtf, the page loads, displays, then redirects to a blank page < 1336073151 470961 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336073428 182585 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336073433 300863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336073447 492841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh boy, this MW situation is more of a pain than I thought. < 1336073467 667779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The .gitignore specifically ignores stuff in the extensions directory, and LocalSettings.php. < 1336073473 699874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you git add things that are .gitignored? < 1336073482 28520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that stop git commit -a from committing them? < 1336073579 303156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, answer to the first question is yes. < 1336073581 961036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just try the second one. < 1336073613 435030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it does work. < 1336073617 695426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I guess I'll just do that then. < 1336073635 703721 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, you do that then < 1336073724 158616 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336074033 449759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ok, you do that then" -- olsner, 2012 < 1336074064 521480 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-220-76.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336074072 106034 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :#esoteric: Surprisingly often, covered in tree sap | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1336074086 18932 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-211-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336074186 734513 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336074207 471120 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336074209 873517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: More like "I volunteer to upgrade Esolang's MediaWiki installation", am I right? < 1336074251 450952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"git pull" isn't atomic, right? < 1336074254 825294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, "git merge" I should say. < 1336074264 441460 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2012/05/02/is-your-teen-browsing-the-pr0n/ < 1336074298 187757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336074328 259597 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First off, let’s look at the title: how do you know if your teenage kids are browsing teh pornz? Well, there are easy steps to find out: < 1336074331 282660 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step the first: they are. Period. Full stop. End of list. < 1336074331 635243 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great article nortti < 1336074334 825503 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thanks a lote" < 1336074456 517651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loving how this article completely denies the existence of asexuals. < 1336074469 547848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb looks at porn for research purposes only < 1336074488 718040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_Other_Than_English < 1336074490 320827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, lote < 1336074526 473480 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336074530 261009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lote,_Norway < 1336074531 995443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, lote < 1336074540 947175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lote_Raikabula < 1336074541 817439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, lote < 1336074548 27155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lote_tree < 1336074548 914562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, lote < 1336074646 662544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know how I could get "ssh solidity sudo cat /srv/esolangs.org/www/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php >Localsettings.php" to run without sudo complaining that there's no tty present? < 1336074652 154044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, ssh doesn't supply a tty if you give it a command. < 1336074657 160277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's annoying. I wonder if there's some way to override that. < 1336074784 148887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, -t < 1336074846 779102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wow if you think that article's bad take a look at the one it's responding to < 1336074851 561146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do They Browse the Web with the Door Closed? < 1336074855 643001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have they Rearranged their Room so the Monitor Faces Away from the Door? < 1336074858 868521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do They Get Nervous and Uncomfortable When You Use Their Computer? < 1336074861 313824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Your Browser History Periodically Erased? < 1336074875 551175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even bother looking < 1336074881 214893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw the thing i pasted and then just closed it < 1336074886 888784 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"enough article for me, monqy" < 1336074893 270553 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : - me, monqy < 1336075073 641836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I was called me, monq. < 1336075074 867190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I was called me, monqy. < 1336075096 726910 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good name to have < 1336075097 929121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Is your LOS square in real life, too? < 1336075116 194424 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336075118 144853 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know D: < 1336075128 90802 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336075149 247251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas < 1336075209 973349 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336075280 271197 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336075332 522116 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ylös < 1336075337 582578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336075371 210948 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in finnish alas=down ylös=up < 1336075383 664927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336075503 74246 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336075524 373905 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1336075535 503016 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently "oops" in croatian means "lol" < 1336075540 291641 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks google translate < 1336075543 303189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336075548 719714 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard you were reading "a poor blog post about haskell" < 1336075552 508838 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1336075553 237175 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336075567 927067 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :today I may or may not draw a self portrait of myself < 1336075574 325536 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasp < 1336075578 767359 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A self-self-portrait. < 1336075588 653063 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so meta < 1336075602 16128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im envisioning the future breakdown of monqy after he is inundated with self portrait requests < 1336075603 790056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*envisions* < 1336075610 391032 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Do you think you could write an autobiography of me sometime? < 1336075624 576329 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1336075634 993209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :autobiographies are a lot of work! < 1336075643 868451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you writing autobiographies too < 1336075645 212424 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a short one then? < 1336075698 409206 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PLEASE SEND YOUR POSTAL MAILING ADDRESS SO THAT I MAY SEND A REPLY FROM PROF. DONALD KNUTH TO YOUR EMAIL TO HIM." < 1336075713 87186 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My email had a POSTAL MAILING ADDRESS. < 1336075826 475691 :nortti_!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336075874 577823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Jennefervoc6006 < 1336075878 125678 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336075886 307880 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Are you going to draw a self-potrrait of kmc? < 1336075891 433198 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he earned one. < 1336075933 472477 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336076195 794427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: anyway i was referring to the foreground part not the kitten yes < 1336076198 985166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still looks familiar to me!!! < 1336076392 94558 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kitten? < 1336076410 232766 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a self-portrait that I missed? < 1336076422 471348 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336076461 122805 :nortti!58710e6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.113.14.106 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336076696 688041 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! I want a self-portrait of zzo38, too. < 1336076728 646475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, I won't give you one; so you have to do it yourself < 1336076744 626877 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: monqy's been drawing self-portraits. < 1336076751 659126 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: He drew great ones of me and elliott. < 1336077019 164217 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336077047 979607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you shouldn't draw any more self-portraits of anyone else its < 1336077050 463862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sustainable < 1336077140 809816 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no monqy < 1336077145 863104 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliotte is just < 1336077146 948866 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :greedy < 1336077647 507925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing objects: 15% (50458/324608), 12.24 MiB | 46 KiB/s < 1336077649 275710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzzzzzzz < 1336077738 36495 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, cloning from darcs.haskell.org? < 1336077761 565561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, pushing to solidity < 1336077784 358900 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, wow slow anyway < 1336077806 64756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time olsner < 1336077806 535978 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for olsner is Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 < 1336077811 732536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time glogbackup < 1336077813 510999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336077814 599517 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Thu May 3 13:43:34 2012 < 1336077818 324951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ChanServ < 1336078352 770831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing objects: 40% (131637/324608), 42.63 MiB | 45 KiB/s < 1336078360 256802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzZZZZzzzzZZzZZZZZZZzzzzzz < 1336078633 26425 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336078723 242892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: travel won't use staircases you haven't gone up?? < 1336078728 562599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1336078824 542430 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so youtube on linux no longer lets me skip around in videos < 1336078882 881268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix pure < 1336078883 824886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a = f a < 1336079120 703291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Is "cleanup" really a word? < 1336079133 651357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, without a - or a space. < 1336079161 735904 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something descriptivism < 1336079163 99799 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1336079164 575385 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes) < 1336079173 528890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks so wrong! < 1336079180 267041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's in all the dictionaries and everything. < 1336079180 905872 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :when cleaning up you do a cleanup < 1336079184 616963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I used it. :( < 1336079192 429465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I keep wanting to change it. < 1336079196 687513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I only have 3 minutes to change it. < 1336079920 246160 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336080116 435276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The upgrade is onnnnn < 1336080480 978735 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott < 1336080775 412623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update complete! < 1336080778 69352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the main page's style is broken. < 1336080899 441407 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336080922 215021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As is the featured icon. < 1336081028 324801 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336081129 743921 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is? < 1336081314 742753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try force-reloading. < 1336081325 409883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screenshots would be nice if they really aren't messed up for you. < 1336081341 770535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's broken in both Safari and Firefox for me. < 1336081494 721503 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336081743 659067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_portal#MediaWiki_1.19_upgrade_and_DNS_change < 1336081764 37810 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336081820 380858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: So does it actually look fine for you? < 1336082078 257302 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336082133 229503 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336082428 559341 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7 < 1336082453 92079 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336082525 688122 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336082798 519687 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.16 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336083209 177037 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89B0C.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336084113 855797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :font size 1.6, line height 1.2, margin bottom .1 < 1336084324 986574 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-244-235.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336084389 64867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you make a self-self-portrait < 1336084392 504075 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-244-235.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336084503 208383 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336084564 91280 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336084598 455187 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i was asleep < 1336084699 18850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell, what does map mean or do? Just wondering, I know it's a very general question and there's probably a lot of things that it does but like generally what is it used for? < 1336084736 32765 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "map" is the secret ingredient that makes Google Maps so good. < 1336084737 467850 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-220-76.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curse whoever you're quoting! < 1336084760 256556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336084761 288462 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Thu May 3 15:39:20 2012 < 1336084766 461859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: your sleep schedule "not gr8" < 1336084782 223599 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1336084790 240674 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336084793 529403 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy dreamging up my self portraite????? < 1336084796 633111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's ok mine is worse < 1336084841 254841 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Does that mean your self-portrait will be "even better"? < 1336084943 119609 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336084956 107320 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you make a self-self-self-self-portrait? < 1336085007 225243 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1336085025 134364 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336085057 207142 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336085059 502188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pressure is one < 1336085070 633879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pressure is two (its rising) < 1336085184 141512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i upgraded mediawiki while you were asleep < 1336085187 472344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1336085211 216991 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336085215 151941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's upgrade < 1336085216 572875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1336085221 356063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like downgrade < 1336085222 244592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but up < 1336085225 436325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1336085328 92912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once made up a program which implements a grid-based puzzle game engine where you can specify the rules, where each rule consists of: a direction flag, a symmetry flag, an optional input counter, an optional output counter, the initial state, the final state, the game end flag, the input pattern, and the output pattern. < 1336085349 74278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336085412 229986 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336085447 92409 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336085502 343017 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if Google Maps used Haskell then they would know the name of the city where I live < 1336085522 956519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each pattern is 3x3, and can specify the color, character, both, or neither. In addition, the color and/or character can be "mark". There are seven colors, and the characters are the 1 to 254 of the CP437 set. < 1336085535 716921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sokoban can be defined using this system using three rules. < 1336085588 695163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1336085592 419095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1336085593 658020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a normal hi < 1336085594 368056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tm) < 1336085596 142725 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336085688 207462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336085709 321020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What long description should I wrote for "prelude-generalize" package? < 1336085739 320807 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, MS codepages < 1336085749 957132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: write the letter "a" twenty-seven times and then put "b" < 1336085754 630388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can add a "c" if you feel it necessary < 1336085792 158584 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336085816 599415 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336085829 176148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be very sceptical about any "d". ask yourself whether you truly need that "d" < 1336085854 595216 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add a 内 for extra points < 1336085922 186644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why? But, OK. < 1336085932 426826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab < 1336085938 121750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did you mean by hand? < 1336085954 285310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant for your long description. Twenty-eight letters is pretty long. < 1336085956 944741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can do it by hand too! < 1336085984 603318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's what you mean. But that isn't a very good description. < 1336086000 873879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can't have everything. < 1336086002 820326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I think CP437 is IBM codepage < 1336086045 23423 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38++ for CP437 < 1336086047 503958 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :best codepage ever < 1336086050 342669 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ook < 1336086060 406099 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The term "codepage" itself just sounds overly Microsoftey to me. < 1336086084 153031 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean "ugh legacy encodings" but it's old < 1336086202 620555 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336086247 120875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you ever found an octopus??? < 1336086258 989787 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an aquarium < 1336086277 167505 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336086284 724471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow : ) < 1336086333 779318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: one problem: i don't believe aquariums are real? < 1336086371 105071 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i comission a self portrait of kmc please < 1336086377 605992 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a mission but with the arrows reversed < 1336086411 646361 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thonqy in advance < 1336086435 786719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha this guy just totally fucked up < 1336086519 435538 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336086576 42316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf why did they do that < 1336086653 78874 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336086709 606440 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336086719 223732 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you watching crawl? < 1336086725 223580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336086728 58008 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: glasgow? < 1336086743 340469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xgamer on CDO, i just picked at random because i saw they were on zot < 1336086777 291441 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll watch too < 1336086813 592172 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1336086895 701402 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless this guy messes up really badly i'm guessing he'll win < 1336086907 978751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: before he zerked a dragon and then < 1336086917 999715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :immediately another dragon and another thing came into view < 1336086927 81495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as soon as he got to them the zerk ran out < 1336086937 891173 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't the curse toe tormenting < 1336086940 16433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he lost quite a bit of hp < 1336086943 734737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336086945 338245 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no i don't live in glasgow < 1336086947 654836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did he berserk there < 1336086951 571972 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hgheheheh < 1336086956 397921 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glasgow has the third oldest subway system in the world < 1336086959 268730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :berserker players remind me of me < 1336086968 314242 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Who has the second oldest and the first oldest? < 1336086976 822862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalked by a bat and a rat on zot:2 < 1336086982 286996 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "oldest" is redundant in those sentences. < 1336086982 349391 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :budapest and london respectively < 1336086987 359895 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no where is he going < 1336086993 649882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dungeon:1 < 1336086998 611126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's done with this dungeon < 1336087003 494904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck it" - xgamer < 1336087014 53316 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is off. < 1336087016 636103 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in new york they spent like 20 years saying "dude we need rapid transit" without building any < 1336087025 686104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1336087034 407500 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :during this time many companies were born and died and many legislators were bribed < 1336087040 927033 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :managing his stache, i see < 1336087094 374516 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first rapid transit in New York opened 5 years after the first bit of the London Underground < 1336087104 334476 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was an elevated railway, and that's all they built for some time < 1336087153 198730 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336087172 327857 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beach/ < 1336087205 150965 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336087251 146125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does he remember about the orb < 1336087258 58432 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he surely forgot < 1336087266 203909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that logo < 1336087267 623133 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much stache fun < 1336087277 794957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: more like the orb of WHAT!!! < 1336087311 195137 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just too deep deep down < 1336087312 615171 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do it < 1336087318 730949 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first subway part of the today New York City Subway opened in 1904 < 1336087394 273907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how is this guy not bored yet < 1336087402 88610 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue < 1336087475 721582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY GOD YOUR INVENTORY IS FINE < 1336087479 847316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it < 1336087482 303584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*STOP IT < 1336087486 250841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :accidentally forgot the capslock < 1336087509 188371 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the railroad tunnel from Grand Central at 42nd St to 96th St opened in 1875 < 1336087537 954092 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which today carries commuter trains, but at the time was arguably rapid transit, and had some underground stops < 1336087553 128053 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336087582 944387 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336087597 861178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: he hasn't dropped his potion of slowing < 1336087599 100578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1336087602 997219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job < 1336087616 878574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1336087632 486264 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there was a railroad tunnel in Brooklyn by 1844 < 1336087636 521679 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Brooklyn wasn't part of New York yet! < 1336087639 25487 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND NOW YOU KNOW < 1336087639 203431 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :explore_delay and travel_delay should default to -1 < 1336087680 224355 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you like the Beech Pneumatic logo you may also enjoy this picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Harvey_Cable_Car.jpg < 1336087693 131089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336087704 919483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, kmc, your extensive transport knowledge continues to entertain < 1336087722 683888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:28 death cob[1/5]: You may have already fielded a guess, but it's insane hostile food. It might be corny, but if you put an ear to the ground deep down in Crawl's maize, you may find that you are being stalked; being buttered up for the kill, smooth as silk. < 1336087726 400892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1336087730 158320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336087732 253242 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is he clearing zot aaagh < 1336087738 801009 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xgamer stop that < 1336087744 162032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use your hi ability < 1336087745 357048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hibility < 1336087755 16766 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new york had better transit in 1930 than today :/ < 1336087760 338403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi" is monqy for "stop that" < 1336087784 354476 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he mapped zot4, maybe he'll dive it < 1336087795 20055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy "denialle" < 1336087810 264006 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not keymashing that bone dragon fast enough < 1336087815 795725 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(written before bone dragon deaded) < 1336087842 708702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i hope i play less in a less silly manner than this by the time i reach zot < 1336087851 918273 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1336087881 868890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won 17 times without reaching zot? < 1336087887 911645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you use scrolls of acquirement to get the orb? < 1336087894 862315 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i hope you play in a less silly manner by the time you reach zot < 1336087896 989125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm gonna go for miscellaneous" "j - the Orb of Zot" "yessssss" < 1336087909 227962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i prefer my version? < 1336087927 494777 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good version < 1336087940 962710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you used METAFONT for designing any logos or typefaces? < 1336087997 920908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why are there death cobs < 1336088015 736321 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336088019 635673 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not ? < 1336088039 303335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1336088055 576372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336088062 324912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did he pick those up < 1336088068 178695 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how should i know < 1336088069 597852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is he DOING < 1336088075 85627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i didn't ask you!!! < 1336088077 378882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked hypothetical < 1336088083 234733 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat in front of the yellow drac yes < 1336088086 957399 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat stealthily < 1336088116 621189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you know when you crave something SO BAD and you just gotta eat even if you're dying < 1336088118 924160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happened to xgamer < 1336088135 941056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not quite dying yet < 1336088142 322226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336088151 775413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you're always dying when fighting < 1336088153 556482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just very slow < 1336088155 153538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*slowly < 1336088157 808086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*just, < 1336088175 621531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh yeah is it true that travel won't use upstairs you haven't used < 1336088182 236835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it makes sense but < 1336088188 770761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :going up every upstairs will be so boring < 1336088196 13382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think he might start dying soon < 1336088202 582583 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheee < 1336088212 194871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1336088228 271095 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :before i put all my buttons on one button i "stair dipped" < 1336088266 752125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1336088285 870315 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you see an unused staircase you go down it then back up < 1336088331 290630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's so ugh though :( < 1336088335 365920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i'd just < 1336088338 915682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go up upstairs when i found them instead but < 1336088340 333563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's still a pain < 1336088355 743780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this will be fun < 1336088364 29066 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not dying quite yet < 1336088383 257690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never said that!!! < 1336088385 208013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said it would be fun < 1336088387 512122 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336088395 132499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dying is one of but many ways to have fun < 1336088395 307603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy plays slow :( < 1336088398 890148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is but one < 1336088405 603051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: everyone plays slower than you < 1336088417 973195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd probably play lower than this on zot (but maybe not when i get to the point of reaching zot) < 1336088420 454643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*slower < 1336088422 937578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uugh typing is hard < 1336088432 193083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cashybrid is faster than me!! < 1336088437 868607 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably Elynae is faster than me too < 1336088444 422259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, this tv has "Vrestler" < 1336088451 96532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so titles (if that's what they're called) are translated??? < 1336088454 454453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystrious < 1336088454 984915 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336088462 87107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: isn't cashybrid half bot < 1336088465 986955 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336088468 817315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't Elynae half bot < 1336088480 121740 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would explain things < 1336088495 251017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two orb guardians for the price of one < 1336088577 357545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336088588 952990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: he's dying now right < 1336088597 499670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336088605 870105 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qyite possibly < 1336088623 81925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also quite possibly he's not dying < 1336088624 854033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336088639 66147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336088640 664710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he walking around < 1336088642 790998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slow and exhausted < 1336088644 390697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and low on hp < 1336088663 195282 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because resting in hall of zot is more dangerous than fleeing from it slowed < 1336088672 250834 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you've cleared the rest of the lvel < 1336088689 343563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is that where he is < 1336088691 828511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't < 1336088694 854513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"recognise the feature" < 1336088716 737524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that troll was hostile for a second < 1336088722 998374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointed it wasn't < 1336088729 249332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1336088732 140493 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i wonder what he'll do here < 1336088737 114588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :troll just appears from nowhere on zot:5 < 1336088738 172347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1336088742 952623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336088748 301003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great berserk this < 1336088750 394941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm death drakes < 1336088761 819255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1336088774 79971 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope he rteles < 1336088774 964363 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1336088776 913355 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's rteleing < 1336088777 90643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't he have any curing < 1336088789 307855 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just not using it < 1336088790 21194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fast+Slow" < 1336088796 44158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's rtele :( < 1336088799 258350 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random teleport < 1336088805 45689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336088824 336070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does scroll of teleport do that since it's -cTele < 1336088827 357255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*teleportation < 1336088830 363938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he's dead < 1336088832 671188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336088834 618210 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll of tele is by default random < 1336088839 50180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1336088840 994153 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not dead yet < 1336088844 104106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok dying < 1336088847 650851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336088848 359324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah -ctele means no ctele < 1336088849 977871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :near starving for some reason < 1336088858 699809 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fast+Slow is what happens when you're hasted and slowed at the same time (it has no effect itself but blocks further hasting and slowing) < 1336088866 569342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :moth of wrath < 1336088868 79211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the best moth < 1336088898 387743 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be that fast and slow just canceled each other but then you could do stuff like re-slow or re-haste < 1336088905 470236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that really so bad < 1336088914 278095 :cswords__!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336088923 785345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no where's he going now < 1336088928 214223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o hno is it < 1336088930 341570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for more < 1336088932 288098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oh no < 1336088934 502020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stashing < 1336088940 558129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did he get the orb < 1336088949 782410 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he got the orb he'd have a glowy purp halo < 1336088953 681960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope it's stash time < 1336088957 799685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy is < 1336088963 384783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all about the stashes < 1336088970 91485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why is his stash on lair:2 that's kinda weird < 1336088977 929263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he notice you sent him a message mysteries of life < 1336088981 357975 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair:2 is a popular stash location < 1336088991 977910 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because monsters that use items don't spawn on lair:2 < 1336088999 130478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh don't they? that's clever < 1336088999 623651 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair:1 gets stair spawns from the dungeon < 1336089012 943102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't they walk down to lair:2 too < 1336089015 393968 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336089015 576612 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336089018 584795 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think people have gotten jellies from dungeon on lair:1 < 1336089021 70096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, why not < 1336089023 20818 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"goodbye, stash" < 1336089032 552965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they spawn on the branch exit stairs < 1336089040 10742 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and monsters don't do interlevel travel by themselves < 1336089041 831215 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is tempted to plawl, but there’s a bunch of lectures to be watched and a bunch of homework to be done. < 1336089052 536676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: why plawl when you can wlawl < 1336089054 486657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ugh that < 1336089055 377448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit _ < 1336089056 612692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the corner < 1336089058 597532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is bugging me < 1336089061 228729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :send him something else so he notices < 1336089067 751541 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336089083 520556 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people don't notice the Hit _ and it's so annoying < 1336089097 436885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ahve to do something!!! < 1336089098 719555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have < 1336089104 170888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should flash < 1336089109 702685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336089113 976770 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1336089115 918073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please send hi msomething oh god what if he < 1336089116 268375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've bugged the devs about it before < 1336089118 396005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wins with a hit _ < 1336089121 231291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would < 1336089122 289810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruin the win < 1336089125 403405 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would wawl but you’re not plawl. < 1336089131 486923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it's xgamer we're watching < 1336089136 478238 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hit _) makes deaths instantly hilarious < 1336089136 918784 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336089142 194811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: PLEASE DO SOMETHING!!!! :'( < 1336089152 323744 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we know xgamer? < 1336089153 750495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ok you send him a message as soon as he stops fighting < 1336089155 379531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no we don't < 1336089157 537181 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if sending another message redisplays the hit _ message < 1336089159 604409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just noticed him since he was on zot < 1336089164 235294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it doesn't but it displays it in the < 1336089166 388662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :message scroller thing < 1336089171 32926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1336089182 529551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he really just tweak skills on zot < 1336089212 830112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhhhhhhhhh < 1336089220 860517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMEONE DO SOMETHING this is a humanitarian crisis < 1336089221 928920 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've bugged devs about having blinking (Hit _) or at least more noticeably colored (Hit _) or a force_more by default on the beep! your pager goes off but nobody listened < 1336089230 886466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe i'll send them a patch < 1336089234 821642 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sent another message and it didn't do anything < 1336089249 897007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is tormenting me every single second i can't enjoy the game like this < 1336089255 406665 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can try bugging him; he's in ##crawl < 1336089257 191130 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the (Hit _) should be more noticeable. < 1336089261 764787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: or maybe you could!! < 1336089274 133490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i mean blinking is < 1336089274 170695 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've grown to like the (Hit _) < 1336089277 896609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really annoying though < 1336089281 500038 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This level looks a lot like a Zot Defense level. < 1336089284 686177 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe they'll hit _!!!! < 1336089286 621577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the force_more thing might be better < 1336089297 628922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: or maybe they'll get a headache < 1336089305 779998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually what it should do is < 1336089307 376046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of force_more < 1336089308 267344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be < 1336089310 34023 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i said blinking i meant < 1336089310 210644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :force_press_underscore < 1336089312 513503 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elemental coloured < 1336089312 682744 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d hate it if everyone could keep force_moreing me on a whim. :-P < 1336089320 883077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: by blinking i meant < 1336089321 410517 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but elemental colour is a technical term you might not know < 1336089325 838484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blinking < 1336089326 206971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1336089327 795731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the terminal attribute < 1336089329 27048 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336089336 509462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's elemental colour < 1336089346 134958 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My terminal doesn’t support blinking text AFAIU. < 1336089353 163626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably does < 1336089361 393760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you sent the messages you bug him in ##crawl >:( < 1336089361 580454 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a "colour" that's really a bunch of colours that change when crawl refreshes < 1336089369 444564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that would be better < 1336089387 19195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you send some messages and then bug him in ##crawl if it bothers you so much! < 1336089399 356598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you know it bothers you too!!! < 1336089401 888622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine if he wins like this < 1336089403 975211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll be agonised < 1336089406 460025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336089431 209064 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'll like it < 1336089432 674848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok done < 1336089435 499473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just hope he < 1336089436 420092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :checks IRC < 1336089444 253771 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :best part is when he starts a new game and then gets the messages there < 1336089447 972345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :preferably after dying horribly < 1336089464 648828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't he checking ##crawl nooooo < 1336089541 220724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what did you send partially end my agony < 1336089550 816272 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, twice < 1336089562 565891 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at different points < 1336089563 804131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good choice < 1336089573 382105 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll send it again if this goes south < 1336089577 811953 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, frail! < 1336089583 657496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's frail < 1336089604 123316 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maxhp-10% per mutlevel < 1336089709 95556 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he'll splat on the orb run < 1336089724 693678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he get the orb < 1336089726 640289 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336089728 94230 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336089731 420307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, quaffing might instead of dropping sutff to get rid of his burden < 1336089731 948776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn i missed it < 1336089733 547585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice < 1336089742 580520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :D < 1336089747 714516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy is so good < 1336089769 38760 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might expired, mmmm < 1336089773 295726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully he gets mothzerked < 1336089774 179483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahahahaha < 1336089783 746073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do those moths zerk < 1336089809 158414 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have "rage" melee which berks stuff they hit and they also berk stuff in los < 1336089813 113431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1336089818 853614 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you get stuff like berserk orb guardians, which hurt < 1336089823 899945 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336089852 101339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw < 1336089852 954035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:03 !lg * tiles 0.10 ntv=0 ktyp!=quitting|leaving|winning killer!=tentacled monstrosity|greater naga|naga warrior max=xl -tv < 1336089856 496633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is with the killer exclusions here < 1336089906 838308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exclusion of constriction deaths; presumably tiles players die to constriction in a boring predictable fassion, thus its exclusion < 1336089945 396563 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336089946 674223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im glad i never had the desire to use tiles for a roguelike ever < 1336090003 939405 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow use G1 not X< aaagh < 1336090005 550388 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336090007 326141 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GD1 < 1336090009 96437 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1336090009 982948 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aagh < 1336090013 167880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with X1 (just so I know) < 1336090021 321977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh because it can use upstairs that are closer to other upstairs? < 1336090025 753821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GD1, that is < 1336090033 569977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336090035 702807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up with that D:21 < 1336090041 726290 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :X< is bad because it only goes one level at a time so you go through the dungeon slowly and have to do it each level < 1336090046 161464 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GD1 goes to dungeon level < 1336090046 695583 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1336090080 379758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well slowly howso < 1336090082 658103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1336090084 428133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in realtime sure < 1336090088 543789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that what you meant < 1336090092 631756 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in realtime yes < 1336090099 361517 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orb run is for the most part real boring < 1336090124 588745 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336090127 944096 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sometimes it can be crazy if you get, say, a silly powerful panlord < 1336090138 54415 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a 1 or two on a weak character < 1336090148 932119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are 9s anything < 1336090152 830413 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :statues < 1336090155 883502 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is TeX so beautiful < 1336090156 457578 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336090158 60024 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gargoiels < 1336090160 388294 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not statues < 1336090160 406894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how that guy didn't < 1336090162 159276 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :statues are 8 < 1336090162 700495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut the corner < 1336090173 687327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i dont either but) < 1336090178 416988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it still bugs me when i see others not) < 1336090193 968118 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bugging me that he's not dying < 1336090201 507494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this rate he'll ascend with (Hit _) < 1336090210 82716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A sufficiently persistent player will eventually rack up a couple wins with their Felid Chaos Knight that remains loyal to Xom no matter what, but that doesn't change the fact that felids are terrible and Xom is terrible and they aren't any better when you put them together." < 1336090213 90483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll just play feck of feck < 1336090217 820817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(im addicted to reading stupid tavern threads now oops) < 1336090221 818960 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336090257 670605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see nobody's done a 15-rune feck < 1336090258 735872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336090259 800988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he win < 1336090260 506829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336090278 235330 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336090302 497227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:11 ah didn't see :( was too involved in the game < 1336090305 872061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1336090308 176902 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1336090316 873354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cries < 1336090318 645172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hits everything < 1336090319 181537 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336090335 257287 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now back to homowork. < 1336090703 200711 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336090817 583700 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336090894 127798 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can type ca to CHOP ALL THE CORPSES. < 1336090923 821785 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sure sounds useful eh < 1336091103 104703 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336091170 112201 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336091274 402430 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell is his conversation even about? < 1336091287 959787 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336091293 193244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :murder < 1336091312 552982 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a terrible title for a game < 1336091320 177506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a game < 1336091322 327951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's real life < 1336091331 240505 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#realtalk < 1336091457 292473 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Crawl < 1336091494 55795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336091494 938999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :murder < 1336091496 401919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is just our cover < 1336091503 37159 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336091512 106498 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matrix of Solidity would be a great title for a game. < 1336091548 36647 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: *nod* Just like Quake back in the day < 1336091557 102561 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336091700 241703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :7/9 < 1336091705 25244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :9/6 < 1336091706 269731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeh < 1336091716 414743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how bad is EV 6 < 1336091724 140313 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget < 1336091725 29223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1336091774 911043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336091811 463018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i keep the chain mail on < 1336091817 133550 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :train armour if you want better ac/ev (you want better ac/ev) < 1336091817 841763 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336091819 618174 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno! < 1336091840 238201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna train unarmed combat to 10 before training other things but < 1336091843 334538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should train armour as well < 1336091857 685803 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :training uc to 10 is sensible too < 1336091863 578040 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1336091866 459576 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's sensible?? < 1336091881 609897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just picked 10 arbitrarily (i kept it on after that but i trained other thniings too) < 1336091885 672087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*things < 1336091889 214379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know what i'm doing :( < 1336091904 453229 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336091923 339681 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but that sounds pretty reasonable < 1336091937 975100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okbut in that case maybe i should switch back to the other armour for now :'( < 1336091954 397822 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do whatever feels right??? i dunnnno < 1336091979 232853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i could split it like < 1336091980 549772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :80%/20% < 1336092003 203930 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336092063 155011 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336092104 376027 :Lymee!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan NICK :Madoka-Kaname < 1336092121 629359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_One of your 3 potions of curing freezes and shatters! < 1336092125 529953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creibriadoses < 1336092159 104571 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also im < 1336092161 674470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hav to go now" < 1336092165 667573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will miss you < 1336092166 23139 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"or soon" < 1336092166 730903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336092167 970870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"or something" < 1336092172 975851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps one day monqy will return to us < 1336092176 534846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336092177 818441 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Thu May 3 17:42:56 2012 < 1336092181 316057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps never < 1336092192 726044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is clarity good < 1336092403 101620 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336092403 979093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow menkaure was weak < 1336092418 880293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_h - a scroll labeled PNYVEGAPRO {tried on scroll labeled PNYVEGAPRO} < 1336092419 790199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta < 1336092443 172416 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336092445 466972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuugh stupid jelly < 1336092527 292605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You finish putting on the cursed -4 cloak of the Fifty Eyes {+Blink MR Str+1}. < 1336092530 659525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, Crawl < 1336092543 189398 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thawl < 1336092552 496082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliptiott < 1336092563 190096 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336092572 650823 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:48 every time i see elliott i think i see elliptic < 1336092575 851045 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesss my devious plan is working < 1336092589 957616 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, I don't even have remove curse :D < 1336092617 569998 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not going to get a god? < 1336092643 892596 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure I am < 1336092646 94472 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just thinking about which to go with < 1336092650 169960 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashey was kinda disappointing < 1336092673 631156 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that sure seeing monsters behind walls and stuff was nice but it never actually got me out of a tight spot < 1336092684 809051 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the cursing stuff was annoying < 1336092695 559855 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm considering going with makhleb again < 1336092699 868762 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh < 1336092703 719512 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sacrificing corpses is annoying too! < 1336092706 557242 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at least cursing is more one-time < 1336092724 373498 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336092739 69724 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336092741 548403 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i'm rid of that cloak < 1336092753 180231 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336092778 119385 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336092883 10186 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing again < 1336092957 210045 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried vacuuming the dungeon for Nemelex yet? < 1336092961 128013 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336092966 284955 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried a deep elf summoner yet? < 1336092969 102341 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336092988 4823 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sticking with GhMo until i win it < 1336093014 101795 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You may choose your destination (press '.' or delete to select). < 1336093014 808382 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1336093015 340618 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1336093017 112638 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336093022 315992 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1336093103 184979 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336093160 857340 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, what? < 1336093162 97262 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame. < 1336093177 775762 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336093192 442131 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336093217 501134 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quaffed a potion of gain strength but instead I just decomposed because it counts as a mutation. < 1336093257 509144 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1336093324 45449 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1336093358 604747 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck my life. < 1336093379 579615 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on... < 1336093393 389432 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected you to move left. :-\ < 1336093403 666434 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I should have. < 1336093405 911855 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was an idiot. < 1336093416 315963 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again. < 1336093425 362460 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DESu < 1336093427 211048 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1336093442 137357 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1336093449 189795 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play a DESu. < 1336093453 13194 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. That's idiotic. < 1336093500 475683 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This game sounds insane < 1336093544 98800 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl? It's not *that* weird. < 1336093553 184667 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336093556 331113 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet crawl.develz.org 345, then w and select elliott's letter if you want to see. < 1336093604 210497 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336093624 688118 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh. < 1336093628 475051 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bind \{6}armour\{13} to a free key such as “1”. < 1336093633 735483 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336093633 753528 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :solarized-dark is probably the wrong color scheme for this :D < 1336093636 922992 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any configuration changes. < 1336093648 626289 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, not so bad < 1336093657 2117 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don’t even need to change configuration. < 1336093664 978864 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hit… err, was it ` or ~ < 1336093703 369105 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell, adder? < 1336093765 191034 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use 1 for searching for armour, 2 for searching for my main weapon (e.g. axes) and 3 for searching for corpses i can eat/offer. < 1336093777 156290 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I handle corpses as I make them. < 1336093786 444471 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That sounds badass.) < 1336093792 428296 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, Terence. < 1336093798 824761 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me, too, except when i fight a bunch of guys at once or simply forget. < 1336093804 616601 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you playing now < 1336093805 855595 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghmo of ??? < 1336093818 839901 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Of nothing. I haven't found the Temple yet. < 1336093824 530071 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you plan on taking < 1336093839 632855 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably Makhleb. < 1336093840 441723 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should also play a hill orc monk for the hilarious bot messages on ##crawl. < 1336093843 878750 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336093847 778184 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My experience with Ashenzari was disappointing. < 1336093852 556818 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336093858 756338 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you got 5/6 star ash piety ash is good < 1336093861 713000 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you never bound yourself enough < 1336093864 938080 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, try him again sometime < 1336093869 274241 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe with a non-monk < 1336093872 287954 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can bind your weapon < 1336093876 360020 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do they give with max piety? < 1336093878 133789 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and/or shield) < 1336093882 639739 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :really really long range divination < 1336093885 194992 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shield? I'm UC. < 1336093892 640440 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use bucklers as UC < 1336093906 660608 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gather it's annoying to. < 1336093917 123271 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the penalty is really low < 1336093920 312800 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bucklers are nice < 1336093951 661619 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, Makhleb's combat abilities seem more useful than Ashenzari's divination abilities for a melee fighter to me. < 1336093965 147586 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the significance of the stars after Ghoul? < 1336093970 167605 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :piety < 1336093973 731389 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1336093974 47731 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piety; it's how much my god likes me. < 1336093975 994136 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a monk so he starts with ** < 1336093979 544018 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though he doesn't worship yet < 1336093982 21021 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1336093983 440616 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since I don't have a god right now, it's greyed-out. < 1336094030 680355 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unique party! < 1336094033 36681 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is Crawl just netback with more weirdness and Sierra-like dickishness < 1336094034 273271 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336094039 50436 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nethack < 1336094044 793333 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl isn't all that much like NetHack. < 1336094065 241615 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :patashu: Oh? That’s cool. I guess that has been done within the last six months. < 1336094075 543922 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nihilist: it's not much like nethack < 1336094084 110134 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want a game like playing nethack, I recommend adom < 1336094110 827412 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare this game to something, I suppose. I might like to play. < 1336094121 243618 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Crawl is like NetHack but with larger maps and probably more grinding; it's more regular in that there's fewer spoilers that aren't monster statistics. < 1336094122 699738 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is like < 1336094128 449457 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a roguelike that's actually fun to play unspoiled < 1336094130 49544 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1336094130 543770 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also probably easier. < 1336094133 908967 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sweet < 1336094139 61624 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I don't think so. < 1336094140 520469 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to memorize like < 1336094145 208985 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cost of things in shops before they're identified < 1336094146 275112 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336094148 218616 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would get frustrated if I didn't ask Henzell about new monsters I encounter. < 1336094153 358913 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what all these scrolls will do when read while confused < 1336094154 248570 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1336094164 623166 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I wielded a scroll. < 1336094167 107523 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, crawl is definitely more fun with henzell/gretell < 1336094168 345970 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336094186 950765 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: FWIW, Crawl is probably the most popular roguelike. < 1336094203 253755 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just killed two jackals with a piece of paper. < 1336094212 467526 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations < 1336094215 339090 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what with hanging out in #haskell and #esoteric, you know popularity is my first concern :D < 1336094219 225505 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, you didn’t. You killed them with your secondary claw attack. < 1336094225 230489 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Oh. :( < 1336094229 329467 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I just wield paper? < 1336094247 931110 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't < 1336094252 533628 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl sucks. < 1336094254 127091 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way to turn off aux attacks < 1336094290 188545 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: If you want to play and you're in America, you might like to play on crawl.akrasiac.org instead. < 1336094304 395141 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's in America. < 1336094320 200271 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need to make a Scumbag Ola Bini image < 1336094323 392779 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amurka < 1336094326 954128 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Please don't. < 1336094347 453766 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :xl7 zig < 1336094347 983662 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go < 1336094354 771856 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I don't have the money. :( < 1336094378 565715 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336094381 49785 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :offensive scroll of immo < 1336094394 383255 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Also Crawl has autoexplore and autofight. < 1336094399 97661 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1336094399 986319 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes the grinding aspect a lot less tedious. < 1336094401 580962 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two best things about crawl < 1336094408 607054 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that is a selling point < 1336094411 797019 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be better if grinding was eliminated < 1336094413 392982 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In case you thought I was actually pressing the direction keys that quickly.) < 1336094415 870974 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but making the grinding trivial is just as good < 1336094432 316822 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The autofight isn't anything magically special, it just does the attack you would do yourself in one turn.) < 1336094435 147954 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336094438 200095 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So you can spam tab a lot for weaker stuff.) < 1336094440 875587 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl tells you what monsters will probably be a tough fight for you < 1336094444 954199 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it doesn't. < 1336094445 834434 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :dark gray, gray, yellow, red < 1336094447 251249 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does < 1336094447 606883 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lies freely. < 1336094448 854553 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name colours < 1336094452 971934 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does indeed < 1336094454 917423 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it at least tries < 1336094457 906106 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you're about to die < 1336094458 435357 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336094466 160221 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how I had curing and heal wounds. < 1336094470 478650 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :grats I guess < 1336094474 188219 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: DESu! < 1336094474 874886 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try that again. < 1336094478 73439 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336094498 972566 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you leave stealth on < 1336094503 248349 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336094504 311196 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :carry on < 1336094505 549004 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: (You'll have to q and select the letter again if you want to keep watching.) < 1336094518 907804 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Oh, and Crawl comes with a lot of interface tweaks compared to NetHack. < 1336094527 284305 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm seeing < 1336094530 980100 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm playing with stock configuration and the autopickup, colours, travel etc. are all more or less how I like them. < 1336094533 303202 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda digging this < 1336094552 274099 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colors are inline with my terminal colors, so that's good enough for me :D < 1336094554 575474 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336094555 136487 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :another favourite feature of crawl of mine < 1336094561 625827 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the ability to put forced pauses on regexes < 1336094569 31291 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can tell the game I want it to pause whenever I miscast a spell < 1336094570 979933 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, plate. < 1336094573 700600 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whenever two slime creatures merge < 1336094576 885051 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever silly thing I die because of < 1336094578 324317 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :often < 1336094588 864197 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't do that because I'd have to put every message on pause. < 1336094599 595979 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really don't < 1336094604 730368 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a joke. < 1336094606 861583 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336094607 568703 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The joke is that I die from everything. < 1336094623 314480 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336094631 563448 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do butterflies ever attack under any circumstances? < 1336094634 571631 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336094636 343344 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have no attack < 1336094640 814224 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only person Sequell knows to have tied from a butterfly is by inner flame. < 1336094645 469430 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336094657 398361 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you give them attacks? :( < 1336094671 163107 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336094692 498618 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Also: Crawl has Xom. < 1336094701 347134 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could modify the game to give them an attack < 1336094704 8008 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'd be playing offline < 1336094734 265560 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Xom (Henzell links to this in its Xom entry so I'm guessing it's not as terrible as some of the wiki.) < 1336094771 992550 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everything in the wiki is bad < 1336094774 658962 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly it's the advice that's bad < 1336094845 839359 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pained a rat to death. Neat < 1336094866 908474 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: (Not to say that Crawl isn't entirely free of Sierra-style stuff, btw; it's quite possible for a monster to decide to show up rather before it's reasonable to.) < 1336094869 569110 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Particularly the uniques.) < 1336094880 735399 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But you can run away. Well, most of the time.) < 1336094908 612462 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad I didn't put that on. < 1336094955 510436 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336094997 891927 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336095288 665409 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336095306 312357 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm dead. < 1336095314 257517 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you aren't < 1336095347 386779 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336095353 409550 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time for ultimate tedium. < 1336095401 631331 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do goliath beetles heal? < 1336095407 220891 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336095410 773010 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How fast? < 1336095416 452797 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast as anything else I guess < 1336095464 701014 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1336095468 773109 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll enchant that plate armour for later. < 1336095559 418049 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should enchant secondary pieces of armour first < 1336095562 630372 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you're the least likely to replace thrm < 1336095568 372833 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :even plate might be replaced by dragon scale or cpa < 1336095578 37817 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint < 1336095580 717182 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnolls have spears < 1336095584 922721 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, oops. :( < 1336095593 883946 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you fighting them < 1336095600 869529 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add ”hits you from afar” to force_more_messages. < 1336095602 636600 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I have no viable getaway plan? < 1336095603 322298 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336095606 158679 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1336095609 171412 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's theu pstairs < 1336095610 63123 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336095621 606855 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Far away enough that they'd kill me. < 1336095621 786548 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could walk to there < 1336095626 921423 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the same speed as you < 1336095631 917848 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but they have spears. < 1336095638 485973 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they WERE a tile away from you < 1336095641 768521 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you decided to fight them < 1336095642 298619 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not now. < 1336095645 159434 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1336095647 105014 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp? < 1336095658 540512 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can take a hit < 1336095660 110621 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go run < 1336095661 155604 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just blink or tele. < 1336095680 416172 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or run, I guess, but that's riskier. < 1336095688 418351 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :tele is risky on a mostly uncleared level < 1336095708 362632 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By blink or tele, I meant blink. :p < 1336095717 634318 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo waste of a blinking scroll but ok < 1336095747 17354 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I die, it's your fault. < 1336095776 990677 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1336095781 489988 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :get behind cover < 1336095785 412199 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, yeah, I know. < 1336095787 736433 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336095802 866598 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, hp for eating < 1336095804 851609 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to play ghoul now < 1336095809 633470 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's great. < 1336095813 389542 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'down time what's that' < 1336095832 710686 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what is the penalty for a buckler exactly? < 1336095837 979263 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty low < 1336095842 97205 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see if I can back that up with numbers < 1336095844 215515 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336095866 491398 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqvhLOPFHpiMdHFWbVpnU3F6M2VlQWV5Rk56UDNaNHc#gid=1 < 1336095886 864170 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like at shields 5 the penalty for buckler wearing vanishes < 1336095906 828277 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit, cursed ring of protection -2 < 1336095911 613167 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll be fine < 1336095920 141901 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try all your scrolls < 1336095963 349993 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a +2 robe < 1336095964 401902 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336096021 444682 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And curse removed < 1336096044 484195 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need a corpse soon, thugh < 1336096046 489495 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though < 1336096130 212515 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: What server are you playing on? < 1336096153 902925 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptiott: The first one you linked. Just died, though. Dropped through an escape hatch surrounded by monsters :/ < 1336096173 89911 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will watch if you play again. < 1336096173 270358 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :77 NihilistDandy the Grave Robber (level 2, -1/19 (20) HPs) < 1336096173 288739 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Began as a Ghoul Necromancer on May 4, 2012. < 1336096173 288894 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Slain by a goblin < 1336096173 289073 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... wielding a +0,+0 orcish club < 1336096173 289248 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (4 damage) < 1336096174 154415 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... on Level 3 of the Dungeon. < 1336096174 172471 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric : The game lasted 00:24:08 (1013 turns). < 1336096181 67122 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, try not to fall down escape hatches :P < 1336096189 956973 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how suboptimal that is :D < 1336096219 486516 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing again, though < 1336096226 401770 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thoughts on race and class? < 1336096237 316709 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh... ask Patashu. < 1336096244 573941 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started out as a Mummy Chaos Knight. < 1336096251 384846 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not an endorsement of Mummy Chaos Knights. < 1336096255 400979 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the love of god, don't play a Mummy Chaos Knight. < 1336096255 577038 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336096290 17311 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy, the Vampire Assassin < 1336096295 736821 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Sneak < 1336096296 798696 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1336096298 816125 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, the combinations that are Bad are greyed out. < 1336096303 308057 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once you pick a species or background. < 1336096303 366403 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-trivially suboptimal (just kidding im not at all aware of it) < 1336096311 889921 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't mean the remaining combinations are Good. < 1336096316 153345 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Righto < 1336096316 681406 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it means they're not Bad. < 1336096330 152308 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Ugh. < 1336096334 375104 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you save and reconnect? < 1336096337 965725 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With TERM=xterm. < 1336096345 490433 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now it's using terminal codes that make all your grey messages appear black to other terminals. < 1336096353 106732 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sure. Just a second < 1336096354 369558 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like hitting things hard, play a minotaur berserker or hill orc berserker. if you like casting spells and running away from things, try spriggan wizard or spriggan venom mage < 1336096358 825394 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of silly tailor-to-the-terminal-you're-using stuff. < 1336096362 622549 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ctrl+S is save.) < 1336096376 92801 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear MiBe is really easy. < 1336096381 402233 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I can NEVER PLAY IT EVER. < 1336096381 933297 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a mibe win < 1336096383 353809 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty easy < 1336096403 41237 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336096413 352030 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better? < 1336096422 955781 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno; you'll have to keep playing to tell. < 1336096437 869834 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, better. < 1336096440 157141 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't want those. < 1336096447 274466 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "c" over a corpse to chop it into edible chunks. < 1336096460 100743 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336096462 763587 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall do < 1336096465 190521 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which isn’t useful for vampires. < 1336096465 850866 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Seriously, drop that leather armour and spear :P < 1336096470 403087 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Oh, right. < 1336096483 768611 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Uhh, dropping things takes one turn per item though. < 1336096486 610327 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So be wary of doing that around monsters. < 1336096503 191885 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Try q. < 1336096505 493536 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you have no potions of use. < 1336096515 948918 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should have picked that gnoll off with a blowgun, really :) < 1336096524 275546 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, probably < 1336096528 557946 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gnolls are particularly nasty, so don't worry too much. < 1336096531 743960 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try a less kynäniska berserker. < 1336096559 974629 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I second the MiBe recommendation, despite having no experience with it. < 1336096575 380172 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of other combinations will require quite a bit more delicacy early on, methinks. < 1336096581 280812 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, TrBe is a tank. < 1336096594 40218 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Also, with berserkers you worship Trog! He loves bloodshed and hates magic. < 1336096597 121424 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be fun in the early game. < 1336096599 539532 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you get to go berserk, which makes everything go red and you get stronger. < 1336096609 805832 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You get exhausted afterwards, but oh well.) < 1336096617 188420 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Life (tm) < 1336096624 458465 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just found a dagger of speed. That's neat < 1336096634 16942 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you get exhausted after berserking just like in real life. < 1336096652 324789 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336096655 454711 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Also, with ghouls you regain HP when eating. < 1336096659 683797 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't eat when your HP is full. < 1336096663 621026 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic, too, sometimes < 1336096665 357888 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That doesn't apply to other races.) < 1336096707 299783 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: BTW, G is the travel command. So once you've fully explored, G> gets you down quickly. < 1336096720 555575 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, cool < 1336096816 926482 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Press p if you want to convert to Ashey. < 1336096821 324870 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1336096862 818128 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It likes you cursing your items (which just means you can't take them off).) < 1336096872 814113 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In return you get info about the map and monsters nearby and the like.) < 1336096876 11928 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting god < 1336096895 368796 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also changing god brings down the wrath of the previous god on you, so you're pretty much stuck with Ashenzari.) < 1336096897 133478 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hit ^ to see your boundness. < 1336096912 664597 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn < 1336096942 68552 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MiBe. Or TrBe. Or somethingBe. < 1336096949 664453 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, play MiBe or something :P < 1336096954 662286 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give it a shot < 1336096972 116101 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Oh yeah, you probably want to press m and adjust your skills. < 1336096979 534387 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can berserk with a. < 1336096982 745828 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu and ion can advise about the best skills for MiBe. < 1336096988 503037 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :axes < 1336096989 569479 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of axes < 1336096993 710701 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't use the arrow keys, just use the letters. :p < 1336096997 683994 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Yeah, turn everything btu axes off. < 1336097002 602974 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press something twice to turn it off. < 1336097011 609459 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and swap away from hthat hand axe asap, it's shit < 1336097027 49700 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :war axe, broad axe, battleaxe and executioner's axe from worst to best < 1336097028 912876 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switch to manual mode to make sure only axes are trained. < 1336097071 890049 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But you might want to train fighting and armour as well at least at some point.) < 1336097091 638821 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear Fighting got seriously nerfed recently. < 1336097098 973070 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ok. < 1336097105 679058 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't train fighting until about xl16 < 1336097106 392689 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1336097121 493377 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can move and fight diagonally with yubn. < 1336097131 139704 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or with tab!) < 1336097136 384429 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moving with hjkl when there’s an enemy diagonally next to you gives them free hits. < 1336097153 336294 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And escaping with hjkl when you want to move diagonally gives them free hits also. < 1336097160 283503 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet NihilistDandy is using arrow keys. < 1336097168 631057 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1336097175 157061 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't do that. You'll die. < 1336097180 471849 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1336097204 426891 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't convert to Ashey this time. Trog doesn't like that. :p < 1336097227 948568 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now hit a. Trog likes it when you burn spellbooks. < 1336097234 240197 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't hit a yet. < 1336097236 392120 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He didn't get the book. < 1336097241 790794 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to get it < 1336097242 267268 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you’re not supposed to. < 1336097243 390993 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it juts has to be in los < 1336097249 635960 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was out of LOS when I said that, I think. < 1336097260 160207 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Yeah, hit a*. < 1336097261 158049 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1336097262 752625 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go back to the colon. < 1336097266 865114 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was teh book. < 1336097269 57303 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the piety meter. < 1336097272 740857 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then a* < 1336097276 116954 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the < 1336097280 200331 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1336097288 149168 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice :D < 1336097296 222728 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that didn't actually get you a star of piety. But it got you a fraction of one! < 1336097302 429597 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more piety you get, the more nice abilities you get. < 1336097303 144792 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The leather armour is better than your animal skin. < 1336097326 846474 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :d, to drop useless items, but you usually don’t need to drop rotting chunks since they’ll just rot away. < 1336097400 853343 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When in the situation @.X where X is an enemy, don’t move toward her. Let her move toward you. You’ll get the first hit. < 1336097403 372740 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chain mail. < 1336097405 494762 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get that chain mail. < 1336097423 203535 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336097427 570294 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: (Use . to wait a turn. Also, 5 makes you rest to restore HP, which is useful if you run out of it and there's nothing dangerous around.) < 1336097428 808653 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, nice. < 1336097432 176268 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should maybe train armour soon. < 1336097438 386084 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on what your EV's like now. < 1336097445 938361 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, 7. < 1336097447 181326 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not so bad. < 1336097460 76911 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You gave it two free hits. < 1336097478 788399 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t go down yet. < 1336097508 360149 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336097512 435578 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ring mail is worse than chain. < 1336097519 884230 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially a +4 chain mail. :-P < 1336097528 988261 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scale vs ring? < 1336097534 864984 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes like this: < 1336097544 606946 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :skin/robe, leather, ring, scale ,chain, splint, plate, dragon/crystal < 1336097545 530551 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: /msg Henzell ??scale mail < 1336097547 828327 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: /msg Henzell ??ring mail < 1336097550 844001 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More AC is better. < 1336097552 118925 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not all dragon armours < 1336097554 391289 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are meant for casters < 1336097559 195030 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lower the EV is the better you have to be at armour to wear it effectively. < 1336097563 93889 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1336097631 190242 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, see ??butterfly for the most important warning in the game.) < 1336097644 12703 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And ??butterfly[2], etc. for the next pages.) < 1336097660 991392 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus < 1336097687 966476 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has now proudly set NihilistDandy up for a life of avoiding butterflies. < 1336097694 888554 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t drop the plate armour. < 1336097695 591144 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forever < 1336097703 738688 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plate armour is good. < 1336097713 594258 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're probably not good enough to use it yet. < 1336097721 821387 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Try Ctrl+F axe to search for axes. < 1336097726 432119 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might have missed some. < 1336097732 996006 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, nothing. < 1336097737 346102 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And use diagonal movement. :-P < 1336097738 201751 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It searches everything you've seen.) < 1336097775 997841 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I'm acclimating to vi-style :P < 1336097787 389323 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numpad also works (but I'll laugh at you). < 1336097798 665184 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't have a numpad, per se < 1336097825 480723 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people use numpad with the top number row. < 1336097836 562982 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like the work of a crazy person < 1336097837 309915 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: If it lists an item, hit its letter and . to travel to it. < 1336097859 807926 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if you get interrupted, G to continue.) < 1336097888 314347 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When in the situation @.X where X is an enemy, don’t move toward her. Let her move toward you. You’ll get the first hit. < 1336097899 413288 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Read those scrolls, man. < 1336097902 73982 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To identify them.) < 1336097912 483038 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(r works too, and is quicker.) < 1336097926 397153 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably with a weak enemy in sight, so certain scrolls that affect them are identified. < 1336097931 540073 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally you should try and use them on potions (to discover a scroll of identify), or if you know identify then armour or something. < 1336097941 606812 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I don't bother doing that. :p < 1336097953 189337 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And preferably wearing a ring or an amulet, so the scroll that curses them is identified. < 1336097956 169247 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, what happened to your display there? < 1336097961 491367 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there you go. < 1336097963 252181 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And preferably wearing something that’s cursed, so the scroll of remove curse is identified. < 1336097966 378805 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blink is an instant micro-teleport. < 1336097970 289097 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's useful for running away. < 1336097983 694498 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a delayed random teleport. < 1336097999 313573 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again, r is the same as ir, but faster :P < 1336098014 946725 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, a multi-use identify scroll. < 1336098016 1046 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try it on i. < 1336098020 959140 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you tried it and it didn't id itself. < 1336098030 740450 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing, too. < 1336098050 942563 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I keep id'ing things? < 1336098058 919846 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much. < 1336098063 656015 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I id scrolls when I pick them up. < 1336098069 967542 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The potions are the most important to id. < 1336098071 715288 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can read-id scrolls. < 1336098082 438677 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not nice to have to quaff-id potions at random when you're about to die. < 1336098104 860733 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :d, to drop the useless potion. < 1336098115 472507 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep my red potions. < 1336098118 49600 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just in case. < 1336098122 868564 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in case what < 1336098148 579283 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just in case. < 1336098154 599764 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad potions are only useful to characters who learn the spell 'evaporate' < 1336098157 609650 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Take that helmet and wear it. < 1336098162 132421 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He can’t. < 1336098162 956016 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avoid the ring until you id it. < 1336098168 94161 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, minotaurs are special? Okay. < 1336098168 187856 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn’t. :-P < 1336098172 822074 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I wouldn't either. < 1336098178 885939 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to instil good habits. < 1336098190 592646 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Just in case I ever need to be slow, or degenerated, or poisoned. < 1336098201 48272 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm… shit? < 1336098209 382362 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Sigmund. < 1336098218 144922 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d run away for now and come back when i’m more badass. < 1336098220 345138 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can either run or try to take him. < 1336098227 432239 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, probably best to run. < 1336098227 975720 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, i remembered you have berserk. < 1336098232 783343 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1336098238 1936 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still only a hand axe. < 1336098241 84210 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your axes skill like? < 1336098255 177325 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.7? < 1336098261 203010 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can go for it. But you might die :P < 1336098262 796451 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be careful, though. < 1336098270 993101 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walk up to one square next to him slowly in case anything happens. < 1336098272 848428 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t give him free shots. < 1336098288 14878 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually. < 1336098291 976563 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leave a space between you and him, like ion says. < 1336098296 999038 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One down again. < 1336098302 893625 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, aa < 1336098303 504343 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now berserk. < 1336098307 172717 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To go berserk. < 1336098312 313326 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press . < 1336098313 168622 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now . < 1336098319 678481 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. < 1336098322 165602 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go down one. < 1336098324 818849 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now just whack him. < 1336098326 946078 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch your HP meter. < 1336098332 269289 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1336098334 234737 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336098340 783608 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably didn't need the berk after all, but... < 1336098346 627356 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what to increase for minotaurs. < 1336098355 909820 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask Patashu. :p < 1336098358 671916 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ion, but he's inferior. < 1336098375 531712 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What would Patashu say to do? < 1336098382 169020 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: What would ion say to do? < 1336098386 785887 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WILL NEVER SOLVE THIS RIDDLE < 1336098389 268112 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even watching, should I be? < 1336098411 469067 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might want to gain some intelligence so a cursed ring of Int-9999 doesn’t kill you. < 1336098430 167851 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, a cursed ring of int -5 would kill m < 1336098431 616334 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*me < 1336098432 859598 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Sure. < 1336098447 657714 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn’t be watching, i should be doing homowork. < 1336098455 472310 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel clever. < 1336098456 889855 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: That's why I told him to identify rings before wearing them! ;) < 1336098463 896877 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: OK, now rest off with 5. < 1336098469 31189 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh. < 1336098470 864400 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have chunks? < 1336098474 212064 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you don't. < 1336098479 367 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best not to waste permafood. < 1336098481 214045 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a corpse right there. < 1336098484 617477 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, 5 some more. < 1336098486 356736 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest until you’re not slow anymore. < 1336098488 873680 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're slow and exhausted; not very good for combat. < 1336098507 715910 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being exhausted doesn’t matter much, you just won’t be able to berserk AFAIU. < 1336098507 766536 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I take Sigmund's shit? < 1336098525 466770 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scythe isn't the right kind of weapon for you. < 1336098532 214029 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The robe is not interesting if you're going heav armour. < 1336098533 107368 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*heavy < 1336098550 774074 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, what's your armour situation again? < 1336098558 756732 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+4 chain < 1336098561 952469 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1336098568 321179 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be a while before you'll want to switch to plate, I think. < 1336098572 394650 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you have high Str. < 1336098580 132121 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe stick the armour skill on for a bit so you can wear the plate. < 1336098584 139278 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, +4 chain might be better than +0 plate. < 1336098590 831867 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Press b to train axes more, though. < 1336098602 8338 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you can't eat corpses unless you're hungry (or one of the races who don't care about that). < 1336098610 321923 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They seem to have the same AC bonus, actually. < 1336098613 499809 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yiuf is dangerous sometimes. But usually not. < 1336098631 438272 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :With berserk you should be able to handle him. < 1336098638 156246 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop being silly. < 1336098647 860083 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So berserk, then? < 1336098650 161735 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336098654 793988 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walking hurts you when you'e zerk. < 1336098656 24354 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you're < 1336098659 53955 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean - < 1336098662 596477 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, never mind. < 1336098668 885620 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant zerk afterwards. < 1336098670 122198 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take the cloak. < 1336098676 371856 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then rest off the poisoning. < 1336098678 910287 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And wear the cloak.) < 1336098696 76249 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can also W to wear rather htan going through i.) < 1336098706 860126 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1336098711 84424 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*than < 1336098718 768555 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :harcustangent < 1336098736 512103 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Oh, yeah - < 1336098743 242082 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're not hungry and have chunks, press p on corpses instead. < 1336098746 962087 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sacrifices them and makes Trog happy. < 1336098754 605406 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall do < 1336098783 385177 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now try the rings that aren’t cursed. < 1336098802 957786 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Green is uncursed, right? < 1336098809 326104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says it’s uncursed. < 1336098811 493139 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, derp < 1336098815 425328 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice! < 1336098820 592687 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you don't have to bother training intelligence any more. < 1336098821 985612 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, very nice. < 1336098830 891457 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could wear that plate armour now, see if it has a nice bonus. < 1336098832 904362 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, unless you want another ring in its place. :-P < 1336098840 13128 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336098840 672282 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s cursed. It’s probably bad. < 1336098842 855225 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cursed :/ < 1336098844 35750 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1336098847 692681 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read-test g and m. < 1336098849 701141 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe one of them is uncurse. < 1336098860 430056 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not bad. Even if the axe sucks. < 1336098866 188369 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They’ll only uncurse things you’re wearing IIRC. < 1336098871 997599 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn it < 1336098883 717941 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha. < 1336098885 882806 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1336098887 333796 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s okay, now you’ll be able to read-id a scroll of remove curse. < 1336098889 995056 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncurse armour scrolls arent uncommon. < 1336098891 72605 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aren't < 1336098904 185770 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, next level down? < 1336098905 815229 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, you'll want to take off the armour skill after a while. < 1336098906 674783 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1336098909 863931 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're definitely strong enough. < 1336098928 193318 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take o said it has explored everything on the previous level? < 1336098937 616686 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct < 1336098940 98749 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure, but Dungeon:[123] are so boring anyway. < 1336098956 984990 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except when you find useful loot. < 1336099021 811996 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should probably id some stuff. < 1336099030 384838 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336099033 220852 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have the id scrolls yet. < 1336099038 2148 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's 2 scrolls of id there; autopickup will get htem for you < 1336099038 713702 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*them < 1336099064 756143 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The potions are the priority, but iding the armour would be nice too. < 1336099071 318527 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try p, since yo have 2. < 1336099072 252470 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you < 1336099072 572545 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, i’d just drop it. < 1336099075 36759 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the armour < 1336099083 364794 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A waste of an id scroll. < 1336099089 90044 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Howso? < 1336099098 895271 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336099100 533196 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn’t it unlikely to be good? < 1336099103 684473 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I meant since the first one was multi-use. < 1336099135 427226 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Ijyb is another unique. < 1336099137 919862 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a weakling, though. < 1336099141 817403 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except when he has spells. < 1336099154 985952 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He chop your head off < 1336099168 395611 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a goblin but with more hp < 1336099170 770684 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and randomly has a wand < 1336099205 627469 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sure is an enchanted crappy axe :D < 1336099214 3494 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, yeah~ < 1336099225 249596 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A +7 hand axe would “sure” be an enchanted crappy axe. :-P < 1336099256 512793 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just keep it all through the game. < 1336099276 358416 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not a serious suggestion.) < 1336099294 816502 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do everything elliott suggests. < 1336099298 655472 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was a serious suggestion.) < 1336099320 500611 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only started playing like 11 days ago. :( < 1336099334 352879 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, sorry, was moving to another room < 1336099343 745346 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem. < 1336099352 499988 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't eat kobold. < 1336099356 25075 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Green = can't eat it. < 1336099359 392154 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So sacrifice all those. < 1336099367 903049 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll keep it in mind < 1336099370 661734 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I end up chopping kobold anyway because I uncritically c most corpses.) < 1336099371 908235 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get this new shitty axe? < 1336099379 922995 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336099382 45931 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be even shittier. < 1336099383 983268 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Most likely.) < 1336099420 584106 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't sacrifice when you're hungry, either :P < 1336099424 615847 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you have food stored up. < 1336099430 459184 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was green < 1336099441 186632 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry. < 1336099446 361845 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl's hunger mechanism is annoying. < 1336099455 246557 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1336099464 147868 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's why I play ghouls, so I get HP for it. :p) < 1336099489 225046 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooo, offer it to Trog. < 1336099499 789146 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, shit. My bad < 1336099516 308057 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a big deal. < 1336099521 285393 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But you want that piety meter full.) < 1336099526 247464 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Can you even do Hand of Trog right now?) < 1336099529 118302 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Do a* to see.) < 1336099535 872785 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you can. < 1336099538 72012 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently < 1336099538 606635 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, then. < 1336099543 506435 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Are you training invocations?) < 1336099549 371466 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not yet < 1336099558 419614 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be worth doing that (and perhaps taking off armour.) < 1336099560 367176 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sidenote, have to disconnect quickly. Getting off the wifi and onto wired < 1336099566 421442 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+S then. < 1336099595 126394 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are invocations under spell casting, then? < 1336099611 544681 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. No. < 1336099617 487425 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Can you not train invocations with Trog? < 1336099622 853859 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hit * to show all skills. < 1336099623 887132 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while since I played a berserker. < 1336099628 827884 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And train armour. < 1336099631 603963 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, why was it hidden? < 1336099650 117733 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because he hasn’t used it almost at all so far. < 1336099657 518209 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he's on manual. < 1336099667 179317 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's not worth training it. < 1336099669 868851 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn’t affect which skills are shown by default. < 1336099723 546444 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did he try m again yet? < 1336099726 419206 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't watch for a second. < 1336099735 140087 :Nihilist_!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336099740 88883 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1336099764 271306 :AndroUser!~androirc@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336099799 340824 :AndroUser!~androirc@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer dropped me into initramfs's ash after reboot after a nasty kernel panic < 1336099809 671953 :AndroUser!~androirc@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net NICK :SgeoN1 < 1336099821 317084 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were Nihilist_ for a second. < 1336099827 398735 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1336099827 929954 :Nihilist_!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu NICK :NihilistDandy < 1336099832 762718 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1336099845 160909 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, sacrifice or chop? < 1336099847 635001 :SgeoN1!~androirc@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does this mean? < 1336099885 456193 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1: It means your system is fucked. < 1336099891 161299 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Sacrifice, I suppose. < 1336099896 468759 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't bother chopping unless you're hungry. < 1336099903 144152 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336099904 177803 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eep. < 1336099906 304363 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ogres are kinda nasty. < 1336099909 515646 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They hit hard. < 1336099916 63954 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can probably berserk it. < 1336099923 45304 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! < 1336099927 570064 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never berserk when you're squares away! < 1336099933 309264 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It runs out fast, and even faster if you move. < 1336099939 208980 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was showing my abilities for your benefit < 1336099945 757786 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336099948 995099 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, then :) < 1336099952 921302 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336099954 517241 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, berk. < 1336099966 136187 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that was easy. < 1336099968 968634 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minotaurs are strong as heck. < 1336099970 563952 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336099978 615022 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go for str. < 1336099981 807180 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have enough int now. < 1336100016 821514 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Down again? < 1336100024 129728 :SgeoN1!~androirc@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott, any chance that hd might not be seated proprrly? < 1336100029 134962 :SgeoN1!~androirc@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being rhe issue? < 1336100033 484417 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: You're having really bad axe issues. < 1336100038 769176 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1: I don't see why, if it can load the initramfs and all. < 1336100040 311124 :SgeoN1!~androirc@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or would it not even get to here? < 1336100041 963417 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Yeah. < 1336100054 749786 :SgeoN1!~androirc@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aargh < 1336100072 946227 :SgeoN1!~androirc@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :il go use my windows comp < 1336100080 573189 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gloves are nice. < 1336100107 131401 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336100107 659191 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow! < 1336100110 849951 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You finish putting on the +0 pair of gloves of Keuschite {rPois Str+3 Int+2 < 1336100111 24630 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Stlth++}. < 1336100116 342726 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's hella good. < 1336100123 735662 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only they were +4 or something :) < 1336100163 188015 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336100183 907924 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick up the heal wounds with ,. < 1336100200 920745 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need to worry about non-ranged monsters when they're a few squares away. < 1336100213 739066 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps read-id that scroll, too. < 1336100228 211982 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, you probably should have rested before going on, but you didn't lose much HP, so it's not a big deal.) < 1336100268 492213 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Orc wizards can be nasty. < 1336100279 706590 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Orc priests moreso, since they can smite you, which really hurts.) < 1336100283 482001 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That % is a corpse. < 1336100300 536187 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1336100357 806400 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crimson imps are annoying but not especially dangerous. < 1336100359 224738 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They blink a lot. < 1336100384 757403 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So try to smash him before he gets away? < 1336100390 51170 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336100394 315112 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just spam tab and make sure you don't lose much HP. < 1336100404 654812 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BTW, tab will also move you closer to monsters.) < 1336100413 234102 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can just tap it wildly until it dies. < 1336100419 844031 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go. < 1336100420 55524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336100428 66058 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336100429 121260 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a good button to know < 1336100444 562045 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:00 ??o < 1336100444 738119 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:00 o[1/2]: This is the second-best button in Crawl. See {tab} for the best one. < 1336100444 757017 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:00 ??tab < 1336100446 155952 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:00 tab[1/2]: This is the second-best button in Crawl. See {o} for the best one. < 1336100466 191914 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear. < 1336100469 893859 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: That's the ghost of another player. < 1336100469 911958 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1336100475 559514 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One second. < 1336100484 114742 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336100485 171358 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptiott: That would be why Henzell knew nothing about it :/ < 1336100496 376443 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:01 !log surr seam < 1336100496 554591 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:01 7. Surr, XL7 SEAM, T:5113: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Surr/morgue-Surr-20120504-021257.txt < 1336100507 566447 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... probably fairly dangerous; I don't know much about elves. < 1336100509 65290 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336100511 285536 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask Patashu or ion. :p < 1336100521 861354 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: ion: Thoughts on Surr's ghost? < 1336100528 82179 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a spellcaster < 1336100536 794138 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arcane Marskman < 1336100541 110863 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :marskman :D < 1336100552 702701 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surr's ghost (experienced Sludge Elf Arcane Marksman) comes into view. < 1336100560 315633 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336100561 210249 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :harmless < 1336100568 478255 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably) < 1336100569 20404 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAB initiated < 1336100570 272604 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe) < 1336100572 35278 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: (Did you not rest before exploring more?) < 1336100573 631396 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336100577 657360 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't tabspam. < 1336100582 556353 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... tab pitter-patter. < 1336100586 811664 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1336100591 829940 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he die < 1336100596 148794 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://magiclampoon.com/blog/2012/05/03/avacyn-returns-brings-dice/ true story < 1336100596 541121 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Careful. < 1336100608 594344 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if I can damage him < 1336100608 768251 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you lose any more health it's time to come up with a better plan. < 1336100611 643901 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can. < 1336100619 797618 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Euhh. < 1336100622 100996 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :New plan < 1336100627 600595 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: He's poisoned now. < 1336100637 944952 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: You can quaff curing to stop being poisoned, but you haven't actually lost any more health yet. < 1336100652 99434 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say do it, but okay. :p < 1336100657 773009 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I was typing: It might be worth quaffing heal wounds, though, but maybe you should wait until you lose some more HP. < 1336100660 78117 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But oh well. < 1336100665 188264 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Berserk < 1336100673 772836 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, try berking. < 1336100684 447649 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem to be much of a threat but it has too much HP for its own good. < 1336100685 231047 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need to. < 1336100689 929670 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done < 1336100699 295687 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All that axes skill is going to waste. :p < 1336100703 187421 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuh uh. < 1336100703 898198 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest up. < 1336100705 677222 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it isn’t. < 1336100718 549906 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now go kill and eat something. < 1336100734 733061 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t step on shafts. < 1336100762 638177 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantoms are like crimson imps, but more annoying < 1336100766 709533 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should be removed. < 1336100792 604176 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1336100799 957264 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Did you see those gloves? < 1336100803 246525 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336100806 909328 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just saw them. Nice. < 1336100818 685448 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And drop the cursed plate armour. :-) < 1336100851 664662 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Worms can hit hard ...but you have a lot of HP, so it doesn't matter. < 1336100855 568544 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, maybe eat a meat ration. < 1336100858 233357 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336100864 751670 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you don't technically have to worry until you get to be starving. < 1336100878 339789 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can’t berserk if you’re too hungry. < 1336100891 16673 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ring mail and a trident… whoo < 1336100894 590373 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :L/ < 1336100899 983083 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:/ < 1336100917 224226 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're rolling in the loot. < 1336100944 30616 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, you're doing pretty impressively for your 4th game. < 1336100952 264064 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which will make your inevitably stupid death all the more crushing!) < 1336100958 286023 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just as planned < 1336100969 487293 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1336100978 329454 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orcish hand axe +1 must be better, yes? < 1336100993 579413 :qfr!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf QUIT :Changing host < 1336100993 599453 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw JOIN :#esoteric < 1336101003 648417 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The (+1) means there’s one more item in that place (hit !a to see it). < 1336101021 525083 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The orcish hand axe is probably not any better, because it is probably +0 and you are not an orc. < 1336101030 404040 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even if it was +1, your current axe is +1 too.) < 1336101031 110683 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nevermind < 1336101084 519365 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps id that ring. < 1336101084 705116 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The race prefix doesn’t mean much if your race doesn’t match it. Dwarven items are more durable against acid, though. < 1336101096 565669 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ecumenical Temple? < 1336101098 688298 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Temple has a bunch of altars so you can get a god. < 1336101114 15690 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're with Trog, so (a) you don't need a god and (b) even if you wanted a god more than Trog, you're SOL, because Trog's wrath is nasty. < 1336101114 261470 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might want to make your first stash in the temple. Monsters don’t spawn there (but they can follow you there). < 1336101128 153434 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336101160 807391 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure to berserk bushes. < 1336101162 83466 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're deadly. < 1336101170 888796 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^W0 at the < to make a waypoint at that place. < 1336101176 862756 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336101184 375438 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^G0 to return to it later. < 1336101187 201089 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1336101188 310034 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1336101189 903822 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just GT < 1336101204 852538 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^G0 will keep working when you move the stash elsewhere. < 1336101215 356712 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He hasn't made a stash yet :P < 1336101221 413495 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I make a stash? < 1336101229 416241 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just drop stuff? < 1336101233 323291 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336101257 189663 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the moment you don’t need to since you’re strong and you’re not near the item number limit. < 1336101260 670476 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you have much worthless stuff to drop. < 1336101270 628015 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't look like it < 1336101284 207557 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(D< would also work to get out.) < 1336101297 939587 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1336101298 445381 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But later you’ll have more stuff you can carry at once, or scrolls of enchant blah you’ll want to stash so they won’t get burned etc. < 1336101298 581940 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :G< < 1336101321 508871 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill the plants to get the stuff under them. < 1336101333 331455 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones with stuff under them. < 1336101355 176117 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can tell there's stuff under them because of the inversion.) < 1336101363 7234 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Headbutting bushes. < 1336101364 213632 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardcore. < 1336101365 470971 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I gathered < 1336101370 256180 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neato < 1336101372 198531 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Wands you can id by zapping at weak things. < 1336101378 500919 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You don't need spellcasting skill for it.) < 1336101380 984446 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :V to evoke. < 1336101384 167998 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That means zap.) < 1336101392 493034 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, before you enter inventory. < 1336101404 51124 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1336101408 147175 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capital V. < 1336101413 725317 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zap at the wall adjacent the K in a way that hits the K. < 1336101414 361304 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1336101415 423621 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. to confirm < 1336101416 359364 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bad < 1336101419 787045 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That will identify wands of digging. < 1336101472 751876 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can , that meat ration. < 1336101473 956214 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1336101476 894347 :SgeoN1!~androirc@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1336101483 816379 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Careful now. < 1336101489 347750 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once you start seeing a lot of red slow down with the tab spam. < 1336101495 699741 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That ) probably has an orc corpse for you. < 1336101500 372785 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336101507 457611 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explore a bit more, maybe you'll find something to eat. < 1336101514 215368 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAREFUL. < 1336101519 725876 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Centaurs are nasty buggers at a distance. < 1336101526 182678 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336101527 937171 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck n-wards so that it has to run up to you. < 1336101533 996288 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a roomful of shit is terrible, anyway < 1336101534 136842 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And be careful of gnolls. < 1336101547 463633 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just . a bit to wait. < 1336101549 235256 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you can force multiple enemies to fight you one by one by getting them to a narrow corridor. < 1336101553 67659 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336101562 342772 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Careful!!! < 1336101565 581352 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gnolls are quite nasty. < 1336101569 643573 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thoughts? < 1336101575 167262 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go down one. < 1336101578 783927 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Retreat to a narrow corridor. < 1336101581 967431 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1336101585 727338 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nothing faster than you, so press X. < 1336101590 219520 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Capital.) < 1336101602 367815 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, X again < 1336101603 252602 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift-down < 1336101607 154840 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X < 1336101609 711939 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift-j < 1336101613 402390 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1336101614 585781 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :One that’s in an explored area and one that you can escape from if needed. < 1336101615 183127 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X < 1336101616 443386 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capital X < 1336101617 215657 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then < 1336101618 812454 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you're *on* the map < 1336101622 385644 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336101628 155100 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's to see where a narrow corridor is. < 1336101632 750061 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift-down < 1336101637 185108 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1336101638 971195 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you doing? < 1336101650 617416 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And again, to scroll the map. < 1336101660 986466 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so you can retrat to that corridor. < 1336101664 386481 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*retreat < 1336101672 624014 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Centaurs are faster than you, though.) < 1336101675 234361 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure to cut all the corners, or you'll waste turns and get hit. < 1336101679 678191 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yeah, but the centaur isn't in vision right now. < 1336101685 107363 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's being crowded by other stuff, anyway. < 1336101691 374079 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it is. < 1336101697 735776 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sucks to be him. < 1336101705 330894 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Retreat again. < 1336101708 872712 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can get to you diagonally.. < 1336101709 976359 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go SW twice and then west. < 1336101710 935550 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an OK corridor. < 1336101714 433142 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1336101717 74879 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That horizontal corridor is fine. < 1336101719 474740 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1336101728 275484 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waste of time, but OK. < 1336101734 16356 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one you can retreat away from. < 1336101737 299722 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to a known area < 1336101738 682965 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1336101741 170533 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't eat when fighting! < 1336101747 931178 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starving lasts a while anyway. < 1336101749 696395 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eating takes like 4 turns. < 1336101759 221672 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Berserk the gnoll, perhaps. < 1336101760 641914 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop. < 1336101763 606788 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, maybe don't. < 1336101766 295084 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can’t while starving. < 1336101767 355084 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just hit fairly hard. < 1336101769 866652 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1336101777 207438 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meat or bread? < 1336101777 385712 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you can eat their corpses? < 1336101781 280716 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a corpse, probably. < 1336101791 174493 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll probably need a ration as well, but you can eat all the corpses first < 1336101799 844894 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't want the spear. < 1336101809 88252 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, eat a meat ration. < 1336101811 909081 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more filling than bread IIRC. < 1336101817 824853 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try the ring and the amulet. < 1336101821 612621 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop. < 1336101823 693504 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they are the same. But i’m not sure. < 1336101824 96099 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're low on health. < 1336101830 964191 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest up. < 1336101836 813915 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: The ring, really? < 1336101839 646649 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :His existing rings are pretty good. < 1336101849 490369 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: BTW, eX also works for iXe, and similarly PX for iXp. < 1336101859 189330 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Meat weighs 8, is 5000 nutrition. Bread weighs 8, is 4400 nutrition.” < 1336101877 855308 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the amulet does nothing < 1336101888 225360 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336101893 380032 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not true. < 1336101898 41565 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does something, it just didn’t get identified immediately. < 1336101900 186645 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does something; you just don't know what yet. < 1336101903 218502 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336101903 919888 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll need to id it to find out. < 1336101912 337797 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be terrible. :) < 1336101913 932097 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wearing it isn't enough? < 1336101930 538925 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This'll be fun < 1336101946 23612 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1336101948 955941 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep it on, it might still get identified if it affects something noticeably. < 1336101950 96849 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336101955 231527 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gnolls aren't really dangerous; a pack of gnolls is. < 1336101988 919952 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That fuckin' imp < 1336102021 554318 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Food boutique... < 1336102035 847126 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably overpriced rubbish, but check it out anyway. < 1336102036 150049 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just hit o, it’ll go there. < 1336102038 148089 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Autoexplore will for you.) < 1336102068 292628 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn’t buy anything, but it’s worth keeping in mind if you’re starving at some point without food and with extra cash. < 1336102077 187662 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chokos are worthless. < 1336102081 442346 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_(Obama–Biden_campaign_slogan) lol, the article got even tinier < 1336102127 647386 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1336102147 344031 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Henzell suggests that necrophages are not a huge deal? Or are they an enormous deal and Henzell is a master of understatement? < 1336102164 118760 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not a huge deal. < 1336102176 541701 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that they're yellow; you shouldn't trust the colours, but you can trust them if Henzell backs them up. < 1336102184 705495 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anything, they tend to underrate. < 1336102188 518428 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Case in point: orc warriors can be quite scary. < 1336102194 990955 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though probably not with the kind of strength you have. < 1336102204 554301 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wait in the corridor. < 1336102209 116847 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With 5. < 1336102214 688518 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or don't. < 1336102216 420991 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1336102235 838269 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe berk the warrior if it gives you any trouble. < 1336102252 417796 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just autoexplore if there's nothing in view. < 1336102260 487433 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1336102269 646903 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t fight them all at once < 1336102280 611071 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to heal, or run and pray? < 1336102296 440753 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, what happened? < 1336102299 655519 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look away for one minute. < 1336102303 522890 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, well, you're getting hit by the warrior's axes. < 1336102308 326551 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why you keep one in to a corridor. < 1336102309 581548 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back up one. < 1336102318 326604 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hit the orc. < 1336102329 367798 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehhh < 1336102330 599530 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop. < 1336102333 822311 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quaff a heal wounds. < 1336102344 301097 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, zerk him. < 1336102353 518957 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could quaff again but ehh. < 1336102367 171625 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just heal up now and you're fine. < 1336102397 339799 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eat what you need and offer the rest before resting, so they won’t spoil. < 1336102419 40088 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can offer food? < 1336102459 189854 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :corpses < 1336102461 188608 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to Trog < 1336102469 132577 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1336102508 836829 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Set character_set = unicode in your config for Unicode goodness. < 1336102513 376300 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't. < 1336102516 629430 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do < 1336102521 528494 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's already Unicodey by default. < 1336102524 750187 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode just makes the walls hideous. < 1336102529 753138 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the floors.) < 1336102537 709650 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They’re hideous now. :-P < 1336102559 778493 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f7u12 < 1336102562 786080 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Relax. < 1336102565 99645 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's behind glass. < 1336102569 172002 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Zin's angel. < 1336102578 351412 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336102583 816137 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So leave, then? < 1336102586 833942 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1336102589 555992 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just autoexplore < 1336102590 911858 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can walk right up to it if you want. < 1336102593 288850 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Zin's sales agent. < 1336102597 393650 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336102634 972497 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a rambutan? < 1336102645 968692 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather, how good/shitty? < 1336102649 174958 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambutan < 1336102653 155187 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just keep it. < 1336102655 374257 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Food is food. < 1336102677 740156 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yawn. < 1336102683 937889 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can probably kill ogres like nobody's business now. < 1336102690 39395 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so I can < 1336102694 467889 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your skills like? < 1336102705 727767 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like this < 1336102715 632963 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. ion might be able to advise about training more. < 1336102725 255944 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Thoughts? < 1336102736 103674 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're doing this "homework" nonsense < 1336102753 189962 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the past i’d have trained fighting as well, but i’m not sure what its effect is now. < 1336102761 866187 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it was seriously nerfed. < 1336102769 996567 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could add it, and focus armour too. < 1336102783 761513 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :With unarmed combat you’ll get better aux attacks with horns. I don’t know how good they are. < 1336102783 779925 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that? < 1336102786 249291 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Train it up a bit, no harm done. < 1336102802 561807 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, UC or fighting? < 1336102802 944300 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably won’t need the others. < 1336102803 459746 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336102810 618047 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant fighting. < 1336102815 38548 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do unarmed combat later. < 1336102845 2580 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fighting[1/1]: The Fighting skill gives you a bonus to accuracy and damage in melee, and improves your hit points by ((1+racial_factor/10) * Fighting * XL) / 8 (see {hp}). < 1336102884 363930 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: When kobolds throw stuff, back up like you did. < 1336102890 310383 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they have to run to you, and they're weaklings in melee. < 1336102900 979548 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know < 1336102902 589439 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fighting gives almost no boost to combat < 1336102904 890178 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you take it for the extra hp < 1336102907 457590 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ditto for centaurs. Hide from them until you can get next to them and then melee them. < 1336102916 101267 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gives almost no extra hp until xl16+ < 1336102919 828351 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, don't train it until Later (tm) < 1336102923 18997 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done exploring. Down again? < 1336102924 961633 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1336102942 465582 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, down. < 1336102944 867604 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Oh, it doesn't? < 1336102948 65173 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Swap your fighting for UC. < 1336102963 150941 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sky beasts are yawn. < 1336102964 521690 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps Patashu can tell us how useful UC is for a minotaur. < 1336102969 511647 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though they can go invisible, which i sannoying. < 1336102969 592829 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea. < 1336102974 852649 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a problem if you get them in a corridor. < 1336102992 292689 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Just keep fighting upwards. < 1336102997 609071 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's invisible, but it's not going anywhere :) < 1336103013 42418 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't bother. < 1336103016 803699 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eat up. < 1336103023 871867 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sky beast will be on its way. < 1336103043 981454 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're nauseous; 5 a bit. < 1336103048 522226 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336103070 67152 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, it's a sky beast party. < 1336103098 845933 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1336103100 44973 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eat a ration. < 1336103117 364437 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you'll just end up eating, hungry, eating, hungry, etc. < 1336103130 483043 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, this is like the levl of annoying shit. < 1336103132 649840 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*level < 1336103171 581346 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your autopickup still off? < 1336103173 707523 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Check with Ctrl+A.) < 1336103201 186497 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should really be a status item for autopickup being off. < 1336103204 899594 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't need cards. < 1336103211 809221 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's if you're going Nemelex, which you aren't, because Trog would get really upset. < 1336103220 317189 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, he won’t. < 1336103230 38634 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you meant for switching religions. < 1336103231 138463 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Sacrifice those corpses, btw. < 1336103233 92060 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Right. < 1336103236 668865 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or don't. < 1336103240 927280 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, eat the other chunk. < 1336103247 162066 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, sacrifice those two- sigh. < 1336103254 174253 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, shit < 1336103256 865789 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walk up to the centaur so it can't range you. < 1336103263 502833 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then kill it, the orcs, get the amulet, money, then run up the upstairs. < 1336103271 81380 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit. < 1336103274 452852 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude. < 1336103277 662761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You cannot use ranged attacks in that game in only one range? < 1336103280 673210 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a name comes up on your screen, that's a bit scary :) < 1336103284 68603 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You can, but it won't. < 1336103290 406033 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So… run? < 1336103292 353585 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: See ??duvessa and ??dowan. < 1336103293 601207 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or berk? < 1336103295 15619 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1336103296 399104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t run. < 1336103297 532741 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would go berserk. < 1336103303 195361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptiott: Then they need to fix it. < 1336103304 737082 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The orc priest will smite you from distance. < 1336103304 829986 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1336103308 622705 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, go bersrek. < 1336103312 526127 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please. < 1336103319 935037 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And attack l and n < 1336103325 922309 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be careful. < 1336103328 68073 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one of the es is a mage, {,s}he’ll probably have some ranged spells, too. < 1336103328 266419 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dowan will be mad as hell. < 1336103341 844726 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lucky. < 1336103345 58975 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not really. < 1336103350 939859 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm scared of those two. < 1336103360 491407 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eat some of them corpses before resint.g < 1336103362 121703 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*resting. < 1336103364 808568 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'll be rotten now. < 1336103370 665360 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :,, to see the items as a list. < 1336103413 24533 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing worth picking up. < 1336103415 151021 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, get the amulet and money and scroll, then eat up some more. < 1336103419 330028 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except the glowing axe. < 1336103422 409370 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336103422 948801 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :have no bigger axes spawned yet? < 1336103424 4437 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duh. < 1336103429 371908 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Actually, you could probably stay on this level, and then go up once you've explored it all. < 1336103442 165464 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Pick up the amulet and money while waiting for the nausea to end. < 1336103443 51665 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the "? amulet of inaccuracy? < 1336103444 290628 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the axe. < 1336103446 278678 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then wield the axe. < 1336103451 987153 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: We don't know. < 1336103454 796893 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336103466 688098 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :amulet of who-da-fuck-knows < 1336103478 801810 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude. < 1336103480 702921 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The " is the amulet. < 1336103481 260270 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get it. < 1336103486 602653 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^F. to get a list of everything on this level. < 1336103487 466128 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you even doing..., < 1336103494 173586 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I missing this amulet? < 1336103495 222209 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/,$// < 1336103496 296296 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Yes. < 1336103497 587474 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the blue " < 1336103508 827802 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scroll is the ?. < 1336103508 969599 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it < 1336103512 698420 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wear test the amulet < 1336103518 80306 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d just go up and take care of the unfinished level, though. < 1336103522 741852 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any curses to remove, though. < 1336103527 832406 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: He already has an mulet on. < 1336103530 846133 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an amulet < 1336103533 102597 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wear test the new one < 1336103538 582481 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336103541 238236 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's not bad. < 1336103541 417194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have a scroll or potion to add a curse? < 1336103541 601953 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336103542 902047 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep that on. < 1336103548 570764 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try wielding your new axe < 1336103554 916663 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hit some things with it < 1336103556 690209 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wield the axe, go <, then eat a meat ration. < 1336103557 45161 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll learn its plusses < 1336103566 749221 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be sure not to remove the amulet of faith, you’ll lose a bunch of piety that way. But you’ll gain piety (and get awesome gifts sooner) wearing it. < 1336103580 274667 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gain piety faster, that is. < 1336103583 919082 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, continue exploring happily :) < 1336103598 80492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In ADOM it is possible to curse items if you have a cursed watery potion or a cursed scroll of uncursing, but there isn't any good ways to guaranteed to get those things. < 1336103612 209634 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Next time you see something weak, zap-test those wands. < 1336103621 67076 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall do < 1336103626 710686 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are scrolls to curse stuff, yeah. < 1336103628 169852 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what items would you deliberately curse in adom? < 1336103630 689541 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is lightning < 1336103641 887688 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wands you don't know :) < 1336103656 636110 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adders count as weak. < 1336103661 790352 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, more wands < 1336103662 672191 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1336103662 690471 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, since when is your axe cursed? < 1336103663 913058 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot < 1336103669 51050 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he read a scroll of curse weapon < 1336103671 172406 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptiott: Read a scroll < 1336103674 539567 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1336103682 452651 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey < 1336103684 63927 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you ^Faxe? I'm shocked nothing amazing has turned up. < 1336103684 82113 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a an gore < 1336103686 721687 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1336103688 317401 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogres hit very hard < 1336103695 462576 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when they don't < 1336103695 676447 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He knows. < 1336103698 197496 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336103700 993153 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not his first ogre? < 1336103702 584555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Potion of exchange is usually better when cursed (if you are using it carefully!), if your character is dark elf then spider bread is better cursed, and sometimes you may curse something so that when you sell it and then purchase it again later, it doesn't cost as much money. < 1336103704 361772 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Third, I think. < 1336103705 287915 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always the first one that gets you < 1336103714 648367 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Rest up a bit, man. < 1336103733 883191 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. < 1336103734 409707 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey < 1336103737 214183 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooo < 1336103738 319451 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop, stop, stop. < 1336103742 43957 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop! < 1336103742 942633 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Retreat < 1336103743 287893 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP! < 1336103743 812593 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1336103750 64192 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can he stop < 1336103751 448209 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's so diesel < 1336103751 805101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Do you believe these things? < 1336103755 554281 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I do < 1336103758 452158 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's dying... < 1336103763 202622 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: You didn't know that. < 1336103767 814750 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could have been insanely powerful. < 1336103770 121103 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why you check the log first. < 1336103778 364684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And these are not the only reasons to curse things. < 1336103791 247878 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hit _, you have an (old by now) message from me. < 1336103801 229687 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1336103822 159262 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ogre party! < 1336103825 209374 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a book to burn. < 1336103830 326664 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burn the book when an O is over it. < 1336103837 128969 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit late. < 1336103840 139857 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: rest up < 1336103847 805281 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You gotta learn to look at your HP meter before hitting o. < 1336103866 170656 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, Trog's Hand is a useful ability you haven't used yet; it makes your HP regenerate faster and gives you some magic resistance. < 1336103874 299058 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's useful in slower-burning fights than you'd use berserk with. < 1336103880 323382 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you should probably eat a ration. < 1336103936 913734 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1336103940 811555 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that centaur doing with a wand? < 1336103942 762191 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is pretty much #whateverthefuck-dungeon-game now? < 1336103947 56994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suppose, there might also be reasons for cursing items when doing some kind of challenge games too < 1336103947 232187 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaurs can have wands randomly < 1336103950 252292 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: For now! < 1336103958 647870 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy started playing after watching me. < 1336103983 129905 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Zap-test those wands on that K. < 1336103987 381583 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I am doing mildly well, with elliott's guidance and occasional screaming < 1336103993 179447 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also patashu and ion < 1336103998 22430 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you should see my fifth game. < 1336104009 865146 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :N.B. I'm still terrible, but I've absorbed others' wisdom. < 1336104021 825149 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That kobold is your friend now. < 1336104025 196888 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336104026 618943 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should probably zap it with the other wand. < 1336104037 553109 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It won't stay your friend for long and also it's weak as hell, so cruelty is fine..) < 1336104043 398100 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to aim it at the kobold this time. < 1336104045 346121 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's your friendd. < 1336104046 385885 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember to zap the wall adjacent to the monster in a way that hits the monster to identify wands of digging. < 1336104094 54670 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :_-_ < 1336104125 865465 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_-_ < 1336104127 796558 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1336104140 332916 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I worried I had been teleported to another floor < 1336104142 994995 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luckily not < 1336104144 760132 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no. < 1336104152 764988 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apples, limes < 1336104153 641862 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teleport traps are harmless unless there's dangerous stuff on the level. < 1336104163 419255 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with Computer Science people and fruit? < 1336104169 248373 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: You're two stars away from full piety, btw. < 1336104177 281680 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty pumped about it < 1336104240 653816 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orcish Mines. Neat < 1336104245 378945 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad, though, yes? < 1336104258 599054 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The orcish mines are fun - but. < 1336104265 419866 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :General wisdom is to do them after the Lair. < 1336104270 788802 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They contain: < 1336104273 891115 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) a shitload of orcs < 1336104277 429433 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) a sometimes-scary final level. < 1336104283 124793 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Increasingly bad. The last level of branches tends to be much harder than the ones before it, too. < 1336104285 748751 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not all orcs are as easy as the three you've encountered. < 1336104286 460308 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1336104302 931699 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuckin' A < 1336104303 837663 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :orcish mines can randomly be really hard. the lair can randomly be really hard as well, but when orcish mines is hard you get boulders thrown at you < 1336104305 587396 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd want a double-digit XL, at the very least. < 1336104308 261006 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when lair is hard you just have to run real fast < 1336104332 506608 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how dangerous Maurice is. < 1336104335 704882 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've killed him, though. < 1336104357 790390 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently he steals and teleports. < 1336104360 96826 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maurice isn't bad < 1336104361 159133 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just blinks < 1336104363 280797 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe you should zap confusion at him. < 1336104368 464549 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(After getting closer.) < 1336104382 808270 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...after getting closer. < 1336104385 645172 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, he might have high MR. < 1336104398 23244 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1336104405 671977 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. < 1336104420 448800 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got him < 1336104421 695081 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not bad. < 1336104439 162099 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runed cloak is good news, though < 1336104441 155303 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try the cloak. < 1336104444 344014 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runed isn't necessarily good. < 1336104446 120771 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it might be good. < 1336104453 108735 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the I. < 1336104458 611312 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you used W, you wouldn't have to mentally filter things ;) < 1336104461 657601 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was checking for curse stuff < 1336104466 190200 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1336104469 533237 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might want to uncurse my sword < 1336104483 764172 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I save it for more important stuff? < 1336104511 643426 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sword? < 1336104514 789129 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you have a sword? < 1336104517 91857 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Axe :/ < 1336104523 511272 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Don't bother until you have something better. < 1336104530 532957 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put the runed cloak on. < 1336104533 872009 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just a berserker, what kind of intelligence do you want from me? :D < 1336104539 912059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can Map be made a monad if the keys is monoid? Can it be applicative if the keys is monoid? < 1336104540 976561 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capital W. < 1336104550 324392 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good! < 1336104558 875431 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poison resistance is useful. < 1336104568 814267 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cloak of poison resistance? nice < 1336104570 66520 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now don't die < 1336104576 826760 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Have you seen his gloves? < 1336104583 213993 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Eat that corpse then show Patashu your gloves. < 1336104591 989263 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, haha < 1336104597 868919 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :already had it :) < 1336104598 795785 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-217-209.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336104603 717312 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now he has more! < 1336104611 977007 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpois doesn't stack, unfortunately < 1336104615 421703 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-220-76.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336104619 313695 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT FEELS BETTER THOUGH < 1336104634 465417 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHOOLUCIUMM < 1336104646 202380 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you got any wands to test? < 1336104650 507853 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, one < 1336104654 269056 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go for it. < 1336104667 123674 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat < 1336104671 732408 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, since you know a lot of scrolls now, when you go to read-test one, use \ to see which items you know (and - to invert it to see ones you don't know). < 1336104672 894855 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-13-233.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1336104679 714463 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them are nasty, so you can see what it might be. < 1336104685 912746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the game have any mode which makes all items to be initially cursed? < 1336104692 867527 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336104703 622975 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like having your entire inventory cursed, you can do an ossuary portal vault < 1336104714 149316 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cursed and full of shit, no less. < 1336104721 975227 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: It's yours. < 1336104724 989878 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the green background means. < 1336104728 193499 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pet it and show it love. < 1336104729 688938 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, neat < 1336104733 969080 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of useless though. < 1336104740 940534 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a show love button? Or is that humor? < 1336104742 621474 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And make sure it’s next to you when you use stairs. < 1336104751 889855 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: It's humour. Quite different. < 1336104756 313513 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Or just ignore it and let it evaporate. < 1336104760 963378 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ouf course < 1336104762 357221 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won’t evaporate. < 1336104770 990269 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't? < 1336104772 639077 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they did. < 1336104774 741870 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won’t. < 1336104777 374522 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 stars < 1336104782 207429 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You dropped one. < 1336104783 447720 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1336104788 231730 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sacrifice more corpses. Except you're hungry. < 1336104792 946554 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why I hate Crawl's hunger system. < 1336104794 112599 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-217-209.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. More people live in New York City than live in Norway. < 1336104823 803180 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate crawl's hunger system too < 1336104826 863066 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, down another level? < 1336104836 543003 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, shit < 1336104837 269586 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You haven’t explored this one yet. < 1336104841 502245 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not done exploring, after all < 1336104842 923919 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wights are kinda yawn. < 1336104852 501611 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/exploring/exploding/ < 1336104880 406505 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Yeah, I only play things with different hunger mechanics (can eat corpses while not hungry, gets HP from eating, etc.) now. < 1336104887 808106 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now, at least. < 1336104894 727291 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sky beasts… (╯ಠ益ಠ)╯︵ ┻━┻ < 1336104902 503488 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: You have a corridor. < 1336104904 333888 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back into it and wait. < 1336104913 465427 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1336104917 11637 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, never mind. < 1336104917 95290 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make sure it goes into a corner and it won’t be able to hide from you. < 1336104920 124983 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just autoexplore some more. < 1336104950 146646 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Et the corpse and let your abomination chase the beast. < 1336105001 59063 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nihilistdandy: You might want to set easy_eat_chunks = true, easy_eat_gourmand = true, auto_eat_chunks = true. < 1336105011 813624 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Settings are for the weak. < 1336105018 622236 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: (That's not a good idea if you worship a corpse-loving God, surely.) < 1336105023 857468 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1336105027 224493 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strictly speaking, I have no idea where to do that < 1336105029 349504 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptiott, they help a lot < 1336105039 5869 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't butcher for you < 1336105040 781118 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it eats chunks for you < 1336105047 329678 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: You edit it in the pre-game menu. < 1336105051 311654 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1336105053 96663 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Fair enough. < 1336105053 114829 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My config diffed against the defaults: https://github.com/ion1/crawl-config/compare/master-base...master#files_bucket < 1336105086 437153 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: 05:18 erolcha[2/2]: erolcha is your "crawl can and will try to kill you" warning < 1336105087 145484 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A unique ogre magess spawned with a random set of spells, which include friendly things like banishment to the Abyss, paralysis, and LCS. Do not underestimate her < 1336105098 343631 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have much Erolcha experience, so ask ion and Patashu. < 1336105101 1975 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So… leave? < 1336105111 393347 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Patashu: Erolcha halp pls? < 1336105114 936055 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you could run downstairs, but she's probably worth a lot of XP. :p < 1336105119 973819 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But be careful, you could die. < 1336105135 640959 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not worth trying the confusion wand < 1336105139 615872 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :erolcha? < 1336105140 151945 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336105143 196579 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, first thing to do is < 1336105144 527363 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :step backwards < 1336105147 79861 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :next, hand < 1336105160 943004 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: (He means Hand of Trog.) < 1336105162 716914 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sting, huh? < 1336105163 423089 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on < 1336105163 993272 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of your god abilities. < 1336105164 678595 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1336105171 457441 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stone arrow (3d12), sting (d8), blink, b.lightning (3d14), banishment, minor healing. < 1336105174 122563 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is her spellset today < 1336105183 264937 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Banishment, eh? < 1336105185 389852 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1336105186 451421 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence hand < 1336105191 631693 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Brothers in Arms would be worth it. < 1336105193 579551 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, Trog's Hand time. < 1336105194 326708 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336105195 255121 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hand affects banishment? < 1336105198 859615 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: MR < 1336105199 606336 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336105201 735861 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :gives MR < 1336105202 148690 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1336105210 99595 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brothers in Arms now, perhaps? < 1336105210 698818 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-13-233.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Quit: R.I.P < 1336105212 580147 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :36% failure rate, but... < 1336105225 906558 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't be a very good BIA due to low piety, but it's worth trying < 1336105230 291674 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make that 41%. < 1336105237 923796 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: (It summons a monster to help you.) < 1336105243 673018 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try it, anyway? < 1336105243 914219 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It costs piety, though, and you’ll want to get gifts. Perhaps berserking is enough. < 1336105259 517055 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Yes, try it. < 1336105264 84585 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get piety back easy; you can't undie. < 1336105268 336179 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try it again. < 1336105275 233335 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336105276 137373 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent. < 1336105278 377784 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now walk towards her slowly < 1336105287 573646 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zap a wand at her? < 1336105290 669656 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336105294 455631 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try confusion < 1336105302 266400 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha < 1336105302 421707 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336105305 992927 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :small abomination tanked her < 1336105311 51328 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that even possible lol < 1336105311 577809 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on < 1336105314 474296 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's crazy < 1336105315 358533 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... odd. < 1336105318 127876 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least you have a berserk ogre friend. < 1336105322 35516 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1336105325 621126 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a small abomination is about as tough as erolcha < 1336105327 733874 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :except erolcha has spells < 1336105331 869054 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1336105332 223464 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's awesome :D < 1336105334 716604 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they were useless. < 1336105336 561964 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Hang on to that guy. < 1336105340 159286 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erolcha (O) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal (items) | HD: 6 | HP: 54 | AC/EV: 3/7 | Dam: 20 | Fl: spellcaster, see invisible | Res: magic(56) | Chunks: contam | XP: 804 | Sp: lots < 1336105340 786079 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Erolcha use any spells just now? < 1336105344 43975 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :small abomination (x) | Spd: 7-15 | Int: plant | HD: 6 | HP: 14-40 | AC/EV: 0/0 | Dam: 23 | Fl: undead, evil | Res: magic(40), poison, drown, rot+++, neg+++, torm | Vul: holy++ | XP: 141. < 1336105347 936129 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just Sting < 1336105348 290322 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :she casted sting once and that was it < 1336105352 72729 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :her HD is low so she doesn't cast very often < 1336105353 124003 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Twice < 1336105354 933903 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when she casts she means business < 1336105357 373913 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still < 1336105358 288450 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing < 1336105364 505799 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was fun. < 1336105373 419997 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your abomination took the hit, though. < 1336105374 881661 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to always act as though you have worst case erolcha, anyway < 1336105395 918699 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might want to rest a bit so your x will heal. < 1336105400 394615 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: If you run into anything tougher than the average monster, and you're in a corridor, swap places with your x. < 1336105406 298726 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it can -- haven't seen Psyche before. < 1336105409 872113 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- do some of your fighting for you. < 1336105413 365689 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Do they heal? < 1336105419 670684 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336105421 475377 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psyche (@) | Spd: 13 | Int: normal (items) | HD: 5 | HP: 39 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 7 | Fl: spellcaster | Res: magic(26) | Chunks: contam | XP: 371 | Sp: throw frost (3d6), cantrip, haste, throw flame (3d6), magic dart (3d4), invisibility. < 1336105425 584134 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:23 psyche[1/2]: A purple unique magess that is generally unremarkable in both dungeon spawn location and ability, but can still be quite dangerous when she hastes herself and unloads a wand or chaos dagger on you. Or in the 25% of the time that her dagger is distortion. < 1336105429 479132 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think she's likely ot have a dagger of chaos < 1336105433 269594 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh; swap places with the x and wait to see. < 1336105433 977918 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, or distortion < 1336105445 283855 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll see if it's chaos or disto. < 1336105447 729483 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Press . < 1336105449 146734 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To skip < 1336105450 566466 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not 5 < 1336105454 74386 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eek. < 1336105455 140091 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's chaos. < 1336105456 415595 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be careful. < 1336105468 846021 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Be careful" =/= "run up and melee her", for god's sake. < 1336105468 864183 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky < 1336105473 39315 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336105477 196112 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:24 chaos brand[1/9]: Imitates other brands, or can heal, polymorph, berserk, haste, invisify, petrify, paralyse, torment, cause miscasts and probably do a lot more to enemies. Added in 0.5, only gifted by Xom, Xom's vault guards, found on Pan lords, or on the uniques Crazy Yiuf (always) or Psyche (sometimes). < 1336105482 170717 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :She got boxed in by the ant < 1336105490 774784 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Will that help you if you become an ant? < 1336105495 868450 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or get paralysed? < 1336105500 94807 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. But that will be hilarious < 1336105515 346519 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I take that dagger? < 1336105519 513394 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or… something? < 1336105526 259475 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1336105535 357696 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, Trog doesn't care about what corpses you give it, just that you give corpses. < 1336105535 906692 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :weapons of chaos aren't particularly useful < 1336105543 773519 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can't use them on anything tough for fear of hasting/zerking them < 1336105544 504982 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Will anything else pick it up? < 1336105547 639812 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1336105551 184400 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1336105551 839950 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you might pick it up so no-one else gets it on the level, and drop it before going to the next level. < 1336105553 661478 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptiott: I know, but I figured he liked mages better < 1336105554 189956 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Pick it up just in case. < 1336105561 733934 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can stash it somewhere if your inventory gets full. < 1336105573 72991 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robe? < 1336105580 286151 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, it’s a light armour. < 1336105585 297995 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Chaos fun: 05:26 chaos brand[4/9]: Gastronok fails to defend himself. You open Gastronok like a pillowcase!!! Gastronok suddenly stops moving! Gastronok is heavily wounded. Gastronok fails to defend himself. You open Gastronok like a pillowcase!!! You kill Gastronok! Gastronok instantly turns into a zombie! Your dagger of chaos parrots the noises around you. < 1336105600 55066 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336105607 585133 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love any game message with more than two exclamation marks. < 1336105616 283079 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :??pillowcase < 1336105623 949099 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't ##crawl. < 1336105626 788661 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does yellow mean, again? < 1336105633 301144 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:27 pillowcase[1/1]: Linley Henzell doesn't know how to open these. < 1336105635 393890 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336105637 344539 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Nothing much. < 1336105638 769914 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :contaminated, but eatable < 1336105643 768150 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, really? < 1336105645 890894 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought so < 1336105646 770757 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never knew that! < 1336105648 194393 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336105649 686154 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :white = clean < 1336105651 240627 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep getting nausea all the time :/ < 1336105653 188351 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336105655 527546 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yellow = contaminated (MAY make you nauseous) < 1336105656 382329 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't eat that, then :) < 1336105665 374795 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :green = poisonous (can't eat without rpois) < 1336105665 922749 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're hungry, so. < 1336105673 11960 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :purple = mutagenic (will give you a random mutation instead of nutrition) < 1336105674 645233 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Oh, right, you can eat greens now. < 1336105681 55582 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :red = bad (I don't want to know what happens if you try to eat this) < 1336105683 444379 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's more, you can go down! < 1336105684 6648 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :green turns white when you have rpois < 1336105687 469223 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done with this level < 1336105695 515510 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336105757 237123 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When in the situation @.X where X is an enemy, don’t move toward her. Let her move toward you. You’ll get the first hit. < 1336105765 383109 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Do you have that on a macro? < 1336105771 408134 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Good point. < 1336105773 180442 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: That's not better than what you're wearing. < 1336105783 489293 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your armour is really good. < 1336105790 603317 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I’m starting to feel like i should. :-P < 1336105802 256467 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red 5 will forever be burned in my memory as the most annoying thing besides a gray I < 1336105806 689644 :elliptiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1336105814 673087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Blue p is a bit more annoying. < 1336105819 629959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, don't bother to think with crimson imps. < 1336105825 553444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just keep whacking tab until it stops existing. < 1336105830 588621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless something terrible happens. < 1336105830 940326 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's true. Phantoms suck < 1336105847 312524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I mention tab can also handle the moving-efficiently-towards-an-enemy for you? < 1336105848 550295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back up. < 1336105852 991265 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is unarmed combat on, btw < 1336105858 44296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Horns. < 1336105861 769123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We asked you whether it was worthwhile. < 1336105868 478683 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336105869 542364 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really isn't < 1336105873 922162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Turn off UC. :p < 1336105876 151281 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You headbutt the centaur! < 1336105877 197422 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You kill the centaur! < 1336105878 615723 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather pump axes < 1336105883 378590 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seemed to work with the centaur rather nicely. :-P < 1336105885 476028 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it does that much damage regardless of UC skill < 1336105903 836136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Yeah, maybe de-focus armour. < 1336105908 91659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your AC/EV is good. < 1336105913 244361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leave it on, but defocus it. < 1336105919 938047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is there a better term for "focus"?) < 1336105943 275117 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :untransmogrify < 1336105959 740011 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336105968 4499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have anything to identify? < 1336105974 936317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the amulet you're not wearing. < 1336105980 36235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the ring, I... suppose. < 1336105985 210203 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :use your ID on potions if you have any < 1336105985 742465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and potions. < 1336105988 480186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :id the potions. < 1336106001 546166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quaff gain intelligence. < 1336106017 914342 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1336106019 907232 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're one smart zerker < 1336106023 156491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. :D < 1336106027 621814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He could spellcast, were it not for the heavy armour. < 1336106030 301877 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you should ditch trog and learn some spells < 1336106030 493887 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ME SOOOO SMARRRRT < 1336106040 44355 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog won't mind, honest. he won't send berserk stone giants after you, honest < 1336106049 420657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just spellcast WITH TROG. < 1336106052 432582 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1336106054 166580 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog won't mind! < 1336106055 196436 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336106055 592183 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I guess 10 Int is average human intelligence < 1336106062 311436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MiBes are badass enough to spellcast even if their gods hate it. < 1336106066 300959 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl doesn't follow the D&D stat scales < 1336106072 247621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't let any puny god stop you using magic, right? < 1336106077 817291 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRUSH GOD < 1336106097 205105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how Trog doesn't mind wands. < 1336106102 175868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Goliath beetles hit hard. < 1336106103 767101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're slow. < 1336106106 848012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're really tedious to fight. < 1336106107 24767 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Confusion wand < 1336106113 332134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just whack it and stop if it hurts you. < 1336106117 282656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, yeah. < 1336106122 802718 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :for goliath bettles < 1336106124 300535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that didn't help. < 1336106130 618095 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336106134 16178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that potion? < 1336106136 929333 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, when you're not diesel < 1336106144 547609 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :goliath beetles hit really hard but only act every other turn < 1336106146 740517 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO DIESEL < 1336106150 458573 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can hit them once, step back, . until they're next to you and repeat < 1336106152 762962 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy the Cleaver < 1336106155 514043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hack and back < 1336106156 405200 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :diesel lite < 1336106158 367935 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :839) hack and back? works on anything much slower than you at the cost of: guilt, hating yourself, me sending you the message "hi" am I also forbidden to cast mephitic cloud and cblink i will also send you "hi" if you: kite excessively, use mephitic cloud, -yes < 1336106158 582513 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ealy game diesel < 1336106196 850463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wyverns are just, like, wyverns, you know? < 1336106212 863763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice cornering. < 1336106223 75715 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336106249 307305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stay where you are. < 1336106251 962687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just pick em off one by one. < 1336106256 784449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't do the waiting thing. < 1336106258 380205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Macro time. < 1336106272 912047 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the orc warrior have a polearm? < 1336106281 86659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Press Ctrl+P to see previous messages) < 1336106289 564804 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :battleaxe, cool < 1336106293 328293 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll want that once you pry it from his cold dead hands < 1336106293 857731 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1336106297 953814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, just whack it. < 1336106301 995687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, don't advance. < 1336106302 887973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh. < 1336106307 976437 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When in the situation @.X where X is an enemy, don’t move toward her. Let her move toward you. You’ll get the first hit. < 1336106308 727346 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's fine < 1336106309 519675 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :too diesel < 1336106309 701084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's OK, I do it too. < 1336106316 9665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, get that axe. < 1336106321 360418 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :take the battleaxe; wield the battleaxe < 1336106326 583288 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's any plate armour wear that too < 1336106328 536923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Uncurse the current axe first. < 1336106328 675998 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncurse your hand axe < 1336106331 773220 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently finding the battleaxe < 1336106334 123131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Plate armour? Naw. < 1336106339 251031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+0 plate is worse than his +4 splint. < 1336106351 197001 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not splint < 1336106358 184340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1336106360 489235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't he have splint? < 1336106377 900875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sacrifice that corpse. < 1336106379 175733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1336106380 809586 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a +4 scale mail. < 1336106383 822037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You got a star of piety. < 1336106389 493586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, chain. < 1336106393 665006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I guess the plate might be better. < 1336106394 476087 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336106397 957320 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :at ****** he'll start giving you good axes < 1336106400 109452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Stop for a second. < 1336106401 7446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err < 1336106402 245763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: < 1336106406 712431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me check your current AC/EV to compare before/after. < 1336106412 401878 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :18/10 < 1336106413 639556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AC 18, EV 10. < 1336106416 395168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, wear the B. < 1336106428 8210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336106430 523376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's worse. < 1336106432 115456 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's minus one EV but < 1336106434 69955 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have more GDR < 1336106436 977452 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so imo it's better < 1336106436 995810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1336106438 349550 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GDR? < 1336106443 784415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe focus armour training some more? < 1336106449 730772 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi < 1336106450 491219 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdr[1/1]: Guaranteed damage reduction versus melee attacks, conferred by body armor. Formula is 14 * sqrt(base AC-2)%. This percentage applies to the maximum potential damage for an attack, not the actual damage rolled. However, GDR will prevent at most AC/2 damage. < 1336106454 244452 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1336106457 171806 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336106459 307781 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :focus axes only < 1336106461 922413 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have a battleaxe now < 1336106464 795815 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you need to get it to mindelay < 1336106467 903213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1336106469 826404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remove armour entirely? < 1336106474 622530 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 axes for mindelay battleaxe < 1336106475 166078 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336106477 591828 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :focus on axes until 20 < 1336106479 181806 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :then do what you want < 1336106480 806946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Wield that battlexae. < 1336106486 364157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1336106489 728156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go and kill things. < 1336106491 657025 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :=isa to make it the letter a. < 1336106499 519984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do what ion said. < 1336106501 279027 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drop the hand axes. < 1336106512 974309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's use foot axes instead, please. < 1336106515 659150 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can switch between wielding a and b with ' < 1336106521 858322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Do you have any scrolls of enchant armour or whatever? < 1336106524 722364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be nice right now. < 1336106526 671101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or enchant weapon. < 1336106537 373473 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d spare them for even better stuff. < 1336106540 711116 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: axe body spray is far more useful against miasma < 1336106540 900876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame. < 1336106550 784180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: OK, then use that instead. < 1336106555 536384 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drop the chain? < 1336106560 908109 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336106563 917460 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: crawl does not have foot axes, but it does have curse toes < 1336106572 516212 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and death cobs < 1336106579 878170 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and moths of mundanity < 1336106586 222275 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drop the cursed ring, or identify for possible bittersweet goodness? < 1336106587 835181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: You can find all that stuff later with Ctrl+F. < 1336106592 496059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep the ring, it's not hurting anything. < 1336106593 23688 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be useful but cursed < 1336106594 617229 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it might be hunger < 1336106595 719124 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep it around < 1336106622 764923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT THE FEARSOME HOBGOBLIN < 1336106624 180857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE DOOOOOMED < 1336106628 783434 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit, nice ace < 1336106630 556062 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*axe < 1336106639 926948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, hobgoblins are always weaklings. :p < 1336106644 718163 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay < 1336106655 197022 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when trog starts gifting you'll get a branded battle or exec < 1336106655 215345 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 is the best weapon I've seen. Give me a break < 1336106661 106431 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1336106663 252301 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wait until you get an executioner’s axe of venom. :-) < 1336106676 484901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Identify non-cursed first < 1336106683 145055 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1336106686 476841 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :any < 1336106693 565680 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1336106701 240155 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ring of teleport isn't completely useless < 1336106701 418199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was it? < 1336106705 496680 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can evoke it for teleport on demand < 1336106708 869832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That gives you teleportitis. < 1336106715 321573 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only when you wear it < 1336106716 675367 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gives you teleportitis AND evoke for teleport < 1336106717 562350 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in crawl < 1336106717 940753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1336106717 959118 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336106725 895840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But teleportitis is still annoying as a long-term thing :) < 1336106729 376649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaaak < 1336106735 580088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Yaks hit hard but they're boring. < 1336106743 137081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're basically like ogres with horns. < 1336106749 49054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step back. < 1336106750 549390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1336106753 580418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can zerk them. < 1336106758 194219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since they hit hard. < 1336106764 887132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zerking gives you extra HP as well as the strength. < 1336106778 278194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaks also have hugs corpses! < 1336106778 632854 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it multiples your current hp by 1.333... when you use it < 1336106779 353243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*huge < 1336106781 658648 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a late zerk is pointless < 1336106785 935677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: It wasn't late. < 1336106788 514275 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336106791 210594 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for future reference < 1336106794 221481 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zerk early or don't zerk < 1336106796 532534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eat eat eat. < 1336106818 103527 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know < 1336106825 766181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop. < 1336106831 339392 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydra \o/ < 1336106831 581706 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1336106831 763791 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        >\ < 1336106833 844809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think axes chop hydrae heads. < 1336106835 988148 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336106838 971471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means you'll be left with a more-headed hydra. < 1336106839 188698 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything sharp will do it < 1336106841 183090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which delivers more damage. < 1336106848 210454 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zap? < 1336106848 563086 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun, isn't it < 1336106852 528884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what minotaurs should do in this situation. < 1336106854 549128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps brothers in arms. < 1336106855 119635 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :bia < 1336106855 785505 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the wands or/and get reinforcements. < 1336106859 401337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1336106864 645950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do BIA first, since you're right next to it, perhaps. < 1336106867 640503 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hope for something good < 1336106876 56549 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll do < 1336106877 293544 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336106880 216619 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a club so it won't make more heads < 1336106883 107440 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1336106886 941737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336106888 146022 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's hurt badly now < 1336106890 984757 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that wasn't a waste < 1336106895 685244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try zapping. < 1336106896 391537 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably zerk it to death now < 1336106899 529279 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or confuse it sure < 1336106904 310045 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336106905 903077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking disintegration. < 1336106907 321360 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :use lightning < 1336106909 27580 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or disint < 1336106909 858782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that. < 1336106911 351252 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't matter < 1336106913 568493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disintegration is bloodier. < 1336106919 451203 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1336106927 690459 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336106927 732454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1336106936 37538 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(those are chunks of hydra you blew across the room) < 1336106936 749119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pre-chunked, too. < 1336106961 440017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A roguelike with gibs is the funniest thing. < 1336106978 823987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tabtabtabtabatbaatb < 1336107020 909947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back up, silly. < 1336107039 557168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: How many turns in are you? < 1336107040 796077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(% to see.) < 1336107056 191217 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :10053 < 1336107056 370782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1336107060 468296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feels like more. < 1336107107 814974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1336107107 991048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1336107108 173026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1336107109 766272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1336107110 833062 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how jellies work < 1336107111 716697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Careful. < 1336107115 775305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336107117 713972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He doesn't. < 1336107119 643041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Jellies corrode weapons, armour. < 1336107120 85080 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blast it with a wand from distance. < 1336107122 714926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are annoying as shit. < 1336107126 572802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Why did you tell him to drop all his axes? < 1336107133 406898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He could use a backup right now. < 1336107133 941957 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: it would just eat all the axes < 1336107139 292998 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: BIA, wands < 1336107140 344596 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :see how it eats things? < 1336107141 583708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I didn't mean throw. < 1336107142 292541 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it eats it heals < 1336107143 402553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant melee. < 1336107143 972184 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336107145 430180 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah < 1336107148 865096 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use wands on it < 1336107150 840619 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what wands are for imo < 1336107156 732142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disintegration! < 1336107157 793339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love guts. < 1336107165 984908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And again. < 1336107183 580317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1336107185 308725 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336107187 499093 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :for future reference < 1336107192 345312 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have retreated north instead of south < 1336107195 854020 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could have -kept- retreating indefinitely < 1336107200 298877 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(jellies are slower than you) < 1336107205 135393 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, my bad. Wasn't thinking < 1336107210 908332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchant weapon! < 1336107217 979504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You *could* save it but considering how rare axes are this game... < 1336107243 43901 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog will gift him -plenty- of axes < 1336107243 197723 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He’ll get plenty from Trog in a while. < 1336107243 748838 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon < 1336107249 546658 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog won't be able to fucking stop < 1336107267 203245 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the other way around < 1336107280 500000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're kinda wasting permafood... but I don't blame you, because Crawl's hunger sucks. < 1336107293 854612 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try not to eat permafood < 1336107296 893139 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's a fruit, then no one cares < 1336107297 679574 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next level? < 1336107303 170727 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just ate a rambutan < 1336107305 478348 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fruit < 1336107310 125969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, next level. < 1336107312 692281 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drop the chaos dagger first. < 1336107314 804867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're more than strong enough. < 1336107321 344182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can probably tabspam this lot. < 1336107324 175700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Eh, no need. < 1336107333 354909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa. < 1336107347 618035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAREFUL < 1336107348 401387 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1336107352 568522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP < 1336107354 695695 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahaha < 1336107355 592929 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1336107356 980021 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see < 1336107362 692509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wights drained him and there's an ogre. < 1336107368 993220 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he keeps tabbing :-P < 1336107369 124313 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1336107370 796604 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at all the things < 1336107379 222152 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, thoughts? < 1336107381 915805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was the one who told him to tab them. But these wights are vicious. :( < 1336107382 444379 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he standing on the staircase right now? < 1336107384 961057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336107388 685668 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1336107389 211618 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336107392 182924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But will he survive an ascent? < 1336107395 364774 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1336107397 671934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps quaff heal wounds and then berserk. < 1336107401 102741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't do that right away.) < 1336107401 767776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop < 1336107403 461089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was < 1336107404 505083 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drink heal wounds, BIA, berserk? < 1336107405 152838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an idea < 1336107407 87141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for vetting < 1336107409 903496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, try BIA. < 1336107411 855696 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I would do is < 1336107412 917265 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :step one sw < 1336107415 388160 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're in a better position < 1336107422 546755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then BIA. :p < 1336107434 601283 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sw again < 1336107441 759856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIA again, perhaps. < 1336107441 946673 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit the wight that's next to you < 1336107444 149395 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1336107446 795649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that. < 1336107448 801029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's good. < 1336107451 776105 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, situation's diffused now < 1336107456 309699 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :*defused? < 1336107459 248270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defused. < 1336107466 978024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Lesson to be learned here: don't necessarily trust me when I say you might be able to tabspam something :) < 1336107469 927206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go up the upstairs to rest. < 1336107473 160835 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336107482 521830 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Btw, you can hit ^X to get a list of items in your field of vision. < 1336107496 256734 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know < 1336107509 849222 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ^F. to get a list of items in the level. < 1336107522 800549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: That's all junk. < 1336107566 511863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relax. < 1336107569 877513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaks aren't such a big deal. < 1336107573 901790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's not a chokepoint, anyway. < 1336107573 943959 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :back up once < 1336107580 44645 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you're being hit by three yaks at once < 1336107580 259624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Craeful. < 1336107580 849817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude. < 1336107583 362197 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336107590 169761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you not look at the HP meter when it flashes red a billion times? < 1336107596 371348 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this game called 'crawl' monsters can attack diagonally even past walls < 1336107597 301919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't close your eyes during tabspam :P < 1336107601 551120 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an American cowboy < 1336107603 853975 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's incredible. I know. < 1336107611 549826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just reach over and poke you < 1336107628 205665 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Royal Canadian Yaksman < 1336107631 295907 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know they can. I didn't realize getting hurt made you unable to blind fight right away < 1336107637 580730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't. < 1336107641 960910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*It doesn't. < 1336107642 667584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it can make you die. < 1336107647 243055 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just turns off tab < 1336107649 889695 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't kill yourself < 1336107654 930222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the game called KING, opponent pieces can move diagonally past walls, and line of sight and thrown rocks work diagonally past walls, but your piece is blocked < 1336107656 537021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If those three yaks gored you, you could have died the next turn. < 1336107659 704082 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay < 1336107684 641534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worker ant zombie is harmless, just kill it and rest up. < 1336107690 700516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X zombie is weaker than X. < 1336107706 653120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those shops might be interesting. < 1336107708 316828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one isn't. < 1336107715 21250 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better prices than the last one, but still shit < 1336107729 775288 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :food shops are for when you eat all the permafood in the game < 1336107733 376627 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't buy food otherwise < 1336107742 660498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Careful. < 1336107744 252093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a corridor. < 1336107745 318528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use it. < 1336107771 5006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You slice the wight!! < 1336107771 183998 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336107773 970075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try that battleaxe. < 1336107781 621496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corridors are not to be eaten. < 1336107799 944258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336107802 71324 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wha wha < 1336107808 582935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's cursed, that just means you can't take it off. < 1336107812 162471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't bother. < 1336107814 680708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mrh. < 1336107815 563874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Meh. < 1336107819 701317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably worse than what you have, so switch back. < 1336107820 234156 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even necessarily a bad axe < 1336107829 959489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have kept the curse until you saw its stats. < 1336107833 61954 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll wield it until a fight and we'll find out < 1336107837 807589 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That work? < 1336107839 944885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1336107841 354733 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1336107844 938041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't get your hopes up, though. < 1336107855 316013 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a piece of shit, apparently < 1336107858 414500 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336107865 410367 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's random whether you find out or not per hit < 1336107869 746617 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no brand, so whatever < 1336107876 946935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was it? < 1336107877 438613 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is it? Also good to know < 1336107877 793196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed. < 1336107882 751075 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't find out < 1336107884 343004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1336107891 207873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, just keep using this one. < 1336107895 324420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which games, is it possible, if you have scroll of item destruction, to use it to destroy a cursed item which you cannot get rid of, if you drop everything else other than the item you want to destroy and the scroll? < 1336107897 53724 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still uncurded, so I could keep using it < 1336107903 15260 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*uncursed < 1336107923 171907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no real point. < 1336107925 616103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably going to be shit. < 1336107946 560551 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wands < 1336107949 785887 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wandddssss < 1336107955 99482 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1336107957 91186 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your face elliott < 1336107958 153712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoah. < 1336107959 83344 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336107960 943688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What color of wands? < 1336107966 539009 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't know yet < 1336107967 426555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Octarine. < 1336107975 222401 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336107980 712729 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, nothing really good in there < 1336107999 378547 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(really good = haste, heal wounds) < 1336108039 40592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gnolls aren't really scary any more. < 1336108044 369152 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, oksy < 1336108045 993817 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*okay < 1336108053 754941 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnoll shamans are pretty forgettable < 1336108055 743084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to say you should tabspam them. But they're not going to do all th- < 1336108058 482067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dragons on the other end... < 1336108070 841319 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a steam dragon, you mean < 1336108073 480613 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :steam dragon is like < 1336108074 924459 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the runt of dragons < 1336108079 209296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah. < 1336108082 399923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want to instill the fear of dragons. < 1336108105 658874 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walk into or no? < 1336108112 200733 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want < 1336108114 61453 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the damage is very low < 1336108114 590735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that would be kind of dumb and you don't have to. < 1336108115 930985 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is damage < 1336108124 646160 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice use of the chokepoint as always < 1336108126 416361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zap confusion at that gnoll. < 1336108132 19256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's blocked by deep water. < 1336108135 688424 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: :P < 1336108137 814102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:08 deep water[1/2]: This most corrosive of solvents will dissolve almost anything that falls in, even artefacts and hapless adventurers. It may be possible to {scramble} free, however. Also known as blue lava. < 1336108147 910127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1336108149 446459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Confusion won't help. < 1336108153 452626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it can just stay there. < 1336108159 527621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could disintegrate it, I suppose. < 1336108162 756474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it'd be for entertainment only. < 1336108214 664992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a cprse. < 1336108216 112586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a chunk. < 1336108217 713202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You exploded it. < 1336108223 426004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get that last chunk then rest off a bit. < 1336108300 380848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, Trog gifted you. < 1336108307 25492 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noticed < 1336108312 731169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :invisible orc wizard. < 1336108317 244290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See that {? < 1336108319 724308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where it probably is. < 1336108326 686882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch your HP. < 1336108333 410746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't open those two doors, I think it's a vault. < 1336108338 312228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check out Trog's gift though. < 1336108352 781706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure where it is, mind. < 1336108355 999276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: No, it's on the floor. < 1336108356 159165 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl+f god gift < 1336108358 503471 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^X < 1336108365 707582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot < 1336108371 535237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Equip that dude < 1336108378 139415 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :war axe is worse than battleaxe since it's one handed < 1336108381 82305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, really? < 1336108384 443230 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 1) you can use it with a shield 2) it might have a neat brand < 1336108385 148927 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336108397 691711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, wield it. < 1336108400 314555 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes hand axe < war axe < broadaxe (one handed) < battleaxe < executioner's axe (two handed) < 1336108402 304833 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1336108409 693197 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336108413 824336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, anti-magic. < 1336108414 352280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude. < 1336108415 635972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude. < 1336108418 879719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Look at your goddamn HP. < 1336108419 240703 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336108422 777236 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's petrified < 1336108424 199086 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he can't do shit < 1336108424 372608 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stone... < 1336108426 327161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the fuck would you explore with that HP? < 1336108427 570360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're so dead. < 1336108431 954536 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336108433 915557 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336108436 416162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lucky as shit. < 1336108438 256448 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336108440 31924 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how anti-magic works is < 1336108440 931882 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU WERE SAYING? < 1336108442 332700 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you hit dudes with it < 1336108444 735034 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't cast spells anymore < 1336108447 711010 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1336108447 729282 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise the battleaxe is better < 1336108451 643981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you set autoexplore to refuse to operate if you're below 66% HP? < 1336108455 897243 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if only < 1336108472 733948 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1336108476 466477 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok great < 1336108481 162776 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't close the door since there's an arrow on it < 1336108486 591678 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Move the battleaxe to position a and the antimagic war axe to position b and you’ll be able to switch between them with ' < 1336108495 256138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just zap wands at it < 1336108498 822570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: do you mean ` < 1336108507 330865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh < 1336108507 590974 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop! < 1336108511 237305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't realise your HP was like that < 1336108515 833009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quaff something < 1336108518 351127 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIA might block his arrows. < 1336108519 277063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heal wounds or curing < 1336108527 465048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yeah, BIA. < 1336108536 385744 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta-solution: don't do that in the first place < 1336108538 752370 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ' < 1336108538 948047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP < 1336108540 386618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trog's hand. < 1336108548 159985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want that regen in a situation like this. < 1336108552 986366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How did that centaur kill an ogre???) < 1336108555 998645 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :step next to the centaur < 1336108563 36556 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now just combat wombat it < 1336108564 627213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe berk it ;) < 1336108572 873624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Kidding.) < 1336108574 666251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew. < 1336108576 683303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest immediately. < 1336108578 103978 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap back to battleaxe < 1336108580 905662 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like the force is strong with nihilist < 1336108585 253542 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't be dumb around centaurs < 1336108585 779952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do what ion said. < 1336108590 391229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Battleaxe to a, war axe to b. < 1336108603 475731 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, don’t rest. You should autoexplore some more. < 1336108608 947001 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1336108616 844974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autoexplore with 1 HP. < 1336108623 123958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Wrong battleaxe, no? < 1336108625 355068 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is still alive after all this sleeping i did < 1336108625 776581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a better one. < 1336108657 961862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eat the centaur then check out your scrolls. < 1336108662 48486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have some stuff to identify, I think. < 1336108669 572509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh. < 1336108671 382675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Splint mail. < 1336108680 602442 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sucks. < 1336108686 484731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah. < 1336108686 607732 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He already has a plate armour. < 1336108692 55873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he does! < 1336108694 155981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, drop the splint. < 1336108705 367206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the rotting gnoll. < 1336108712 451137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you really not have scrolls of identify? < 1336108712 786632 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’ll rot away by itself. < 1336108722 964552 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a one, right now < 1336108734 412687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that ! < 1336108741 435467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yellow. < 1336108812 636953 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Henzell offers no guidance on Hippogriffs < 1336108814 585969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: It's not terribly scary. < 1336108816 887181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Try Gretell. < 1336108820 805195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@??hippgriff to it. < 1336108828 155939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HP and damage being the most important. < 1336108875 497199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to diagonal better. :p < 1336108903 944813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still no lair entrance, right? < 1336108909 368020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ctrl+F lair to see.) < 1336108911 614189 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not guaranteed until D:13 < 1336108927 187566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, just checking. < 1336108930 376406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha. < 1336108934 705000 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuckin' A < 1336108938 331287 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok < 1336108939 404862 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's alone < 1336108974 575851 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, use the antimagic against shamans etc. < 1336108981 488866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sidenote: Wow, berserkers are much better when they have high HP. < 1336109003 477827 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :REALLY? < 1336109003 592553 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, next level? < 1336109010 474369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that to ion or me? < 1336109023 320358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1336109024 641298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To NihilistDandy or me? < 1336109026 776715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, >. < 1336109034 278814 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to ion < 1336109043 538000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336109073 201296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336109076 962236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: You know ogres? < 1336109079 120502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hill giants are ogres++. < 1336109079 752683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop. < 1336109081 641063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You fool. < 1336109082 527166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1336109086 775756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, OK. < 1336109088 891493 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When in the situation @.X where X is an enemy, don’t move toward her. Let her move toward you. You’ll get the first hit. < 1336109091 372939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hill giants are meant to hit very hard. < 1336109095 874785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this one dindn't. < 1336109096 43595 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shut up, ion < 1336109097 102320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*didn't. < 1336109099 260395 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it < 1336109102 677380 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not doing it < 1336109104 672944 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I get it < 1336109132 550269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not worth retreating; they're weaklings. < 1336109142 68114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's time for ion's macro again ;) < 1336109173 309234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe berk that guy. < 1336109175 254447 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hanzell suggests little to fear < 1336109187 971274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:26 Harold (@) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal (items) | HD: 9 | HP: 76 | AC/EV: 0/8 | Dam: 12 | Fl: spellcaster | Res: magic(60) | Chunks: contam | XP: 1238 | Sp: b.fire (3d17), blink. < 1336109189 737964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a bit of HP. < 1336109194 125935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah. < 1336109200 763712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, you're strong. < 1336109209 639936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Junk. < 1336109220 89049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a corpse to sacrifice there. < 1336109243 501526 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, so close to a wand of digging < 1336109326 384166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf was that < 1336109341 660530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running away doesn't stop bad things existing unless you're running somewhere in particular :) < 1336109365 720453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: You should probably watch this. < 1336109376 220166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, situation defused. < 1336109381 2097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And diffused! < 1336109388 837421 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just about to say “and diffused”. < 1336109405 28702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you for resting :P < 1336109421 727374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:30 troll (T) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal (doors) | HD: 7 | HP: 25-53 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 20, 15, 15 | Fl: regen | Res: magic(28) | Chunks: contam | XP: 305. < 1336109427 215961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Hit kinda nasty, but otherwise harmless. < 1336109427 744174 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336109429 726052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have messages. < 1336109430 759584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press _. < 1336109442 225721 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who that is... < 1336109445 197779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1336109445 965482 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can “reply” with : < 1336109452 173520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, :message < 1336109458 829862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: This is ND's fifth game. < 1336109464 638511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you giving advice < 1336109466 757885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336109475 578336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:31 3. NihilistDandy the Grave Robber (L2 GhNe), worshipper of Ashenzari, slain by a worker ant in D:4 on 2012-05-04, with 45 points after 300 turns and 0:05:51. < 1336109476 980613 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was only 4th :P < 1336109477 687597 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good advice < 1336109477 705648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, indeed, only the fourth. < 1336109481 127484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Yes. < 1336109488 372920 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: It sucks. < 1336109493 159415 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1336109496 585648 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from ghne to mibe? < 1336109502 873340 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, I assume that's mibe < 1336109511 515352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lg nihilistdandy < 1336109516 655583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err < 1336109528 656995 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why aren’t the ##crawl bots on #esoteric⸘ < 1336109532 308119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: < 1336109533 725424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:32 !lg nihilistdandy -2 < 1336109533 743800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:32 2. NihilistDandy the Sneak (L1 VpAs), slain by a gnoll (a +1,+1 spear) in D:1 on 2012-05-04, with 84 points after 200 turns and 0:02:58. < 1336109534 254236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:32 !lg nihilistdandy -3 < 1336109536 379671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:32 1. NihilistDandy the Grave Robber (L2 GhNe), slain by a goblin (a +0,+0 orcish club) in D:3 (minmay three crescents) on 2012-05-04, with 77 points after 1013 turns and 0:24:08. < 1336109538 335344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just picked randomly to start with. :p < 1336109539 572631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vpas too? < 1336109550 755032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Unlike Haskell, they didn't put them there! < 1336109559 916948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, his first game lasted 24 minutes?) < 1336109562 713126 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I'm gone for a while or so < 1336109568 841584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336109570 418592 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Thu May 3 22:32:49 2012 < 1336109571 860022 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll wisdom etc once I get back < 1336109575 792814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy sure is away a lot today!!! < 1336109578 515165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe back at 23? maybe later < 1336109580 401433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: monqy has 17 wins, you know. < 1336109581 444147 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm away a lot always < 1336109583 642508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's 16 + 1 wins. < 1336109591 996432 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Winning by induction < 1336109595 192148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336109595 716920 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you win, anyway? < 1336109601 748441 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 1) three runes < 1336109602 639810 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 2) orb < 1336109604 92625 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 3) don't die < 1336109607 195018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get three runes from branches of the dungeon, go down to dungeon level 27, < 1336109609 807584 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 0) get really buff < 1336109614 886150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the 5 Zot levels, < 1336109616 481910 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm halfway decent at step 3 < 1336109617 394313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the Orb of Zot, < 1336109622 373106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go back to dungeon level 1, < 1336109625 618652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and exit the dungeon. < 1336109637 175052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Branches are themed stuff. < 1336109648 100522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far you've just seen the plain dungeon. < 1336109735 926200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need to chokepoint or run away from orcs. < 1336109738 74557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're *orcs*. < 1336109752 865838 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There could have been bigger things :P < 1336109771 675165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pheaqitzetz. < 1336109772 221860 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good point < 1336109772 240480 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchant weapon? < 1336109775 391174 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :orcs imply more orcs < 1336109777 410248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1336109779 929460 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :more orcs implies orc warriors < 1336109782 922343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Orc by induction? < 1336109799 218333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 0 orcs, and since if there's N orcs, there's N+1 orcs, there are an infinite number of orcs. < 1336109801 408292 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1336109807 434309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: It's not as powerful as it looks. < 1336109814 402312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did tell you to check what unid'd scrolls were left at this point. < 1336109817 969287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ages ago.) < 1336109833 864889 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember that, nor do I remember how to do it < 1336109849 69350 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's either {, [, ], }, | or \ < 1336109849 986192 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget < 1336109858 101381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: When you go to "r", press \ in the list < 1336109863 598726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then - to negate it, and you'll see unidentified items < 1336109892 330459 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pressed \ and it did no such thing < 1336109905 634011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1336109909 212072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there you guo. < 1336109909 920478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*go < 1336109909 938724 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just \ < 1336109911 869038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use - to negate it. < 1336109919 285571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you see all the scrolls you don't know. < 1336109925 24396 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good stuff < 1336109955 853184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1336109961 940224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Is that a vault of some kind? < 1336109964 99944 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Henzell is not reassuring me < 1336109965 420933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass, etc. < 1336109967 336783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is NihilistDandy fucked? < 1336109972 468260 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's behind glass < 1336109975 998892 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :buuuut < 1336109978 378260 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't fight it right now < 1336109979 225092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Stats speak for themselves: 06:39 stone giant (C) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal (starting) | HD: 16 | HP: 69-108 | AC/EV: 12/2 | Dam: 45 | Res: magic(85), drown | Chunks: contam | XP: 2034. < 1336109980 828732 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :close it and put an exclusion on it < 1336109989 854920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I mean, is it a display case thing? < 1336109991 979200 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the stats don't tell you that stone giants hurl boulders < 1336109998 550560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Close is C. < 1336110005 647431 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :step away from the wall < 1336110005 670045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close the other door too. < 1336110006 634548 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ctrl-direction < 1336110008 494186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll have to kill the rock worm. < 1336110016 377289 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :step away from the wall < 1336110018 419947 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lure it out of the wall. < 1336110019 739930 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada < 1336110020 801930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336110024 571801 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now put an exclusion on the door < 1336110024 928608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't encountered those before. < 1336110029 324269 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do that? < 1336110030 919546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: You get to teach him how to use exclusions. < 1336110032 518395 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :x, east, e, e < 1336110044 472224 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1336110045 392921 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :e’s effect will be more noticeable with X < 1336110047 362359 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you won't autoexplore into it < 1336110086 816530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did ND become so unstoppable? < 1336110106 737757 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :good skills < 1336110111 296739 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is reminiscent of the dwarves days < 1336110118 69108 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dwarven < 1336110127 614917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, of course. < 1336110131 696366 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, from now on at level ups raise dex < 1336110134 521020 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of str or int < 1336110134 698902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must be why you're so smart: you're a master craftsminotaur. < 1336110145 569667 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly < 1336110151 680396 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Shall do < 1336110178 391501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Craftsminotaur: best word? < 1336110181 587957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Some of that int is from a ring, mind. < 1336110206 934567 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's still not much point raising int as a troglodyte < 1336110212 264403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1336110214 400305 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the time stat loss is a problem you should have plenty of cures and carry them < 1336110214 750599 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1336110214 929560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just mentioning. < 1336110218 455111 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :His starting int was 4. < 1336110225 559070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: He went to university. < 1336110256 121733 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he got a degree in troglodology < 1336110264 912051 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and trog accepted him in a trainee position < 1336110275 866860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh, *that's* where "Trog" comes from. < 1336110284 853296 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Troglodology sucks as a palindrome. < 1336110284 954007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: You opened the door < 1336110285 131971 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, in spite of the exclusion, it's driving me into the Giant room < 1336110285 483214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336110290 303956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press X for bigmap. < 1336110294 572259 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the best palindrome < 1336110308 31488 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :troglodog...ort < 1336110308 905597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what's going on. Patashu? < 1336110316 744808 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, what's wrong? < 1336110320 905782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:44 So, in spite of the exclusion, it's driving me into the Giant room < 1336110334 492225 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe place exclusions around it too, then < 1336110335 205661 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336110345 825538 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or cowboy it up and kill the thing < 1336110348 232627 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336110352 426736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would result in you dying. < 1336110352 771980 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Driving you there? It didn’t open the door yet, did it? < 1336110353 135618 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill a stone giant? < 1336110354 386306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Remove the door exclusion. < 1336110357 436161 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should probably leave it for later < 1336110357 628098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: It did. < 1336110360 947130 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336110363 807385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Then put an e on the door while in the X bigmap. < 1336110365 163922 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1336110366 262171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically < 1336110368 46411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lle < 1336110368 220872 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sense in dying when you can live so easily < 1336110368 577098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1336110375 322571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh < 1336110376 639140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not right < 1336110378 232661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e it twice < 1336110382 484042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336110386 997785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1336110389 516319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1336110393 233273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1336110395 552419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1336110399 119409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better. < 1336110403 188221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try it out like that. < 1336110407 987784 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336110409 836811 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now go to the next level < 1336110410 189402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, G> < 1336110419 786635 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noes a wight < 1336110425 322123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RUUUUUUN < 1336110427 451081 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336110427 980407 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1336110431 13882 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get interrupted < 1336110431 907332 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :G enter < 1336110433 346510 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :will resume < 1336110439 473330 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, a labyrinth < 1336110441 749898 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love mazes, do you < 1336110447 619353 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a scroll of magic mapping? < 1336110454 531126 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a limited time to reach the entrance. < 1336110455 188700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had one. < 1336110462 391001 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, do you have food? :-P < 1336110464 89015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Don't do labrynths. < 1336110470 603219 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Labyrinths are great. < 1336110470 763562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy hates them and from what I've read I hate them too. < 1336110478 41625 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what do I do? < 1336110482 11878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ignore it and explore on. < 1336110490 32918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine a maze that changes, that you can't remember, and that you're stuck in until you reach teh end and fight a monster. < 1336110491 111675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the < 1336110491 687124 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have some potentially good loot. < 1336110492 528641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With nothing else. < 1336110509 626243 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat < 1336110516 359605 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, I have food < 1336110522 635647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have nearly enough. < 1336110525 244330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skip it. < 1336110527 725416 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'll just be pressing o and doing whatever happens < 1336110530 626865 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! You’re a minotaur! < 1336110531 90468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1336110532 685439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't. < 1336110535 274611 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minotaurs can map the labyrinth. < 1336110538 324322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No autoexplore, as I understand it. < 1336110539 740738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, they can? < 1336110544 897117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1336110547 236176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they need magic mapping? < 1336110551 240096 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336110558 518602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he can just autoexplore it? < 1336110569 193178 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno if autoexplore works, but it shouldn’t forget the map. < 1336110575 700600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1336110579 698226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would still skip it. < 1336110583 64345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's immaterial if he doesn't find it, anyway. < 1336110590 374875 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never skip labyrinths. < 1336110599 105276 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we'll see, I suppose < 1336110604 596052 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You haven’t even tried one. :-P < 1336110610 383211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1336110613 118615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I read a bit about them. < 1336110615 68784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just as good. < 1336110617 124183 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :autoexplore does not work in labyrinths < 1336110619 868643 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to manualexplore them < 1336110623 533376 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic mapping doesn't work either < 1336110624 610198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you're a minotaur? Bleh. < 1336110629 177703 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :labyrinth is basically 'BOY I LOVE MAZES' < 1336110633 261225 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the good thing about labyrinths is < 1336110640 185068 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they colour the walls by what euclidean distance they are from the exit < 1336110653 373705 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the loot < 1336110656 371945 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can pretty quickly deduce which way yuou need to go < 1336110659 534406 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there will be loo < 1336110661 302497 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a minotaur) < 1336110668 198592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How powerful is the minotaur at the end? < 1336110674 942320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And does he have enough food even if he can remember the maze? < 1336110678 680987 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're diesel so no problem < 1336110679 391532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And does the maze still change for a minotaur?) < 1336110682 51710 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if he is a problem you can bia) < 1336110692 996331 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, how much food does he have? < 1336110695 70612 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does change, but that’s not a real problem. < 1336110696 859930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Little. < 1336110699 215985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He keeps eating permafood. < 1336110702 97757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Press e < 1336110703 971141 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even without mapping < 1336110707 727141 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's plenty < 1336110714 324920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, fine, do it. < 1336110720 773589 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo, an invisible thing < 1336110720 949459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Do you have a scroll of magic mapping? < 1336110721 657687 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill it < 1336110724 670298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't run away from something invisible. < 1336110729 716850 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fled < 1336110735 146467 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have been an unseen horror < 1336110738 220919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your autopickup still off? < 1336110739 452168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put it back on. < 1336110746 441225 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's still off < 1336110748 227908 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit ctrl+A < 1336110754 639667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press Ctrl+A and stop wasting time; the labyrnth gate expires. < 1336110757 432547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*labyrinth < 1336110760 440153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have magic mapping? < 1336110770 160245 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1336110773 181002 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :For fuck's sake, no < 1336110773 732451 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :kite the basilisk back < 1336110778 451944 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case there are friends in the black part < 1336110780 44196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph < 1336110780 931155 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that means < 1336110781 642687 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to kill it alone < 1336110782 422649 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When he shoots a cloud at you, step away from it. < 1336110783 952759 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1336110785 385153 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just walk east < 1336110789 773984 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that's catoblepases < 1336110793 904603 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep walking east < 1336110794 299884 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336110795 781855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: I wrote that message before you replied. < 1336110801 451080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Press _ to get rid of the annoying warning. :p) < 1336110801 620554 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1336110814 184743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :luvly < 1336110814 679497 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now kill it < 1336110816 101169 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336110829 489203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: STOP IGNORING _ MESSAGES < 1336110831 614947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate people who do that. < 1336110832 155271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336110840 181008 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN STOP SENDING THEM < 1336110842 312244 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read IRC < 1336110845 584507 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should send a funny message too < 1336110847 865351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyclopses are like stone golems but less scary. < 1336110848 927165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTH < 1336110858 44607 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :helpful hint for cyclopes: < 1336110860 852746 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :treat them like centaurs < 1336110863 214334 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTH < 1336110877 191428 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works < 1336110890 150724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit _ < 1336110890 523254 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336110894 399854 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot about the cyclops < 1336110897 940511 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336110910 185144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: that tock clicking < 1336110910 717995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :means < 1336110913 308671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336110914 515026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tock clicking < 1336110915 255883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop moving < 1336110918 101494 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :gloves < 1336110919 429713 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336110919 447957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means the labrynth is running out < 1336110920 756394 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have gloves < 1336110921 311650 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1336110923 680731 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t waste time, find the labyrinth. < 1336110927 584737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has the best gloves < 1336110931 476843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: don't autoexplore if you want to find it < 1336110934 532050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use X to find the most likely places < 1336110945 945824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1336110948 73876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno :p < 1336110954 992040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd suspect it's to the right but i don't really know < 1336110956 44167 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was “long way away”, it won’t be in the immediate vicinity. < 1336110971 607252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not up there. < 1336110972 142067 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's lair < 1336110973 731874 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do that after lab < 1336110982 363487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not goingg to reach the lab at this rate. < 1336110987 889253 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps SW? < 1336110988 683210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*going < 1336111008 961554 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lab's gone < 1336111009 845456 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do lair < 1336111019 492465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest for god's sake < 1336111032 269060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest < 1336111033 682676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1336111037 529989 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :unseen horror again < 1336111039 482442 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :back into a corridor < 1336111040 757535 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :then reverse < 1336111041 190010 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And offer the corpses to Trog after resting. < 1336111046 714154 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336111050 87729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started making something called WizardCard for implementing Magic: the Gathering and other similar things, this is what I have in a parser so far: http://sprunge.us/TJjZ < 1336111053 460559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Ctrl+F corpse < 1336111073 674531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that corpse isn't boring :( < 1336111081 692996 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1336111081 867754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful < 1336111083 149535 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahahaha < 1336111083 167720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mimics are < 1336111084 210212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336111084 576419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336111085 812827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stopst < 1336111086 168436 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fake fucking lair < 1336111087 762010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sotpstpst < 1336111089 927108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336111090 277814 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol jesus < 1336111091 873535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :topstpost < 1336111093 822289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stsotpst < 1336111095 847901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he < 1336111097 835961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never look at his hp < 1336111100 145879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god dammit < 1336111106 351235 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair < 1336111110 87005 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when were mimics this strong < 1336111110 608981 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1336111111 499672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: this is your lesson in "mimics aren't pushovers" < 1336111111 856963 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still reading this < 1336111118 102998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: they are < 1336111120 652619 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336111121 538229 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :constriction < 1336111122 126517 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1336111124 612203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dex < 1336111125 683857 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm never playing trunk < 1336111127 720963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful < 1336111132 60840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful < 1336111133 125199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no tab < 1336111134 185764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1336111135 958157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336111138 438622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have 28 hp < 1336111140 219500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you chasing things < 1336111151 912691 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, mom, relax < 1336111152 618050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be diesel but you're running out of gas!!! < 1336111173 807218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your unreasonable luck is depriving you of the helpful learning experiences that are YASDs < 1336111182 59891 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup :D < 1336111204 738278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, lair entrance must be on the next level < 1336111208 525034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :explore out this one then go down to it < 1336111212 601613 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might still be on this level < 1336111213 307446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: macro time < 1336111214 631275 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1336111217 823023 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget how mimics work < 1336111235 133614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kobold room? < 1336111262 437499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: just run up to it and bash them in < 1336111263 718034 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you using wand zaps on kobolds < 1336111265 917864 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :bored? < 1336111266 95199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, you're a minotaur < 1336111271 230269 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Yup < 1336111271 938037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bashing kobolds to death is what you do best < 1336111284 90173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: you'll find the lair a nice change < 1336111288 758107 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you found no boots this game? < 1336111295 592004 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a one < 1336111300 65199 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor feeties < 1336111304 676679 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :trolls are like ogres < 1336111312 600092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh ooh < 1336111313 488137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gift < 1336111314 193028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gift < 1336111318 929064 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it exec? < 1336111321 826365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PART :#esoteric < 1336111322 186853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have sacrificed that corpse < 1336111325 826615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: god gifts go on the floor < 1336111326 525462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's right < 1336111328 632913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next to you < 1336111330 623925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1336111331 326709 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336111332 393390 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec axe < 1336111333 99587 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wield it < 1336111333 117576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wield that motherfucker < 1336111340 679893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reassign it to a < 1336111341 202500 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336111341 566606 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1336111343 166422 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :pump axes to 26 < 1336111351 131198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: he's already training axes exclusively < 1336111353 876120 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336111355 843505 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, pump axes faster < 1336111358 147869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's antimagic too awesome < 1336111367 972124 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :back up < 1336111369 345913 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some other brands are generally better than antimagic. < 1336111370 762649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :corridor < 1336111372 988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn < 1336111373 593839 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336111376 974435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336111377 859132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :KoK < 1336111378 388514 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :back up rofl < 1336111382 249100 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, yes, very funny < 1336111383 769950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1336111384 765973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like that < 1336111387 861385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just < 1336111390 350643 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure whatever < 1336111391 238928 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :good enough < 1336111393 538006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not backing up that's just backing < 1336111396 21603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha how is he still alive < 1336111396 548460 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can pretend kobolds don't exist at this point) < 1336111403 841294 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we made him too diesel :( < 1336111411 927401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: is that all the corpses < 1336111420 540045 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL CORPSES < 1336111420 891413 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a shop < 1336111422 263166 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it the lab < 1336111424 625155 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Search for what [Enter for "boots", or ? for help]? corpse < 1336111431 728998 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read: ‘Enter for "boobs"’ < 1336111431 984027 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's where the lab WAS < 1336111434 643499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: he's making so many < 1336111437 315777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newbie mistakes but < 1336111440 153683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just too powerful to die to them < 1336111446 217886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he reminds me of a week ago except < 1336111447 104166 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO NOOB TO DIE < 1336111450 742087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diesel < 1336111482 400489 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@.X < 1336111482 509815 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough arguments to @. < 1336111508 117951 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now, down again < 1336111519 51610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened? < 1336111527 495317 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wanted to save, didn't know that also made me quit < 1336111533 348642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: It's a roguelike. < 1336111535 546570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't save. < 1336111537 140463 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336111537 710672 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point < 1336111539 658472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can suspend and resume. < 1336111542 802787 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, it autosaves < 1336111545 134723 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :save = quit basically < 1336111606 436897 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair time < 1336111614 162813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :explore the whole level first perhaps < 1336111617 534265 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1336111620 373401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :burn book < 1336111621 609243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :buuuurn book < 1336111623 379054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesssss < 1336111629 608136 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, here's your lair notice < 1336111631 929731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: any ?id < 1336111632 461194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336111634 427615 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) don't do subbranches of lair before all of lair < 1336111638 134607 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tengu < 1336111639 375611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: btw the lair is boring + hydrae < 1336111646 108584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh water < 1336111651 423793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go to the lair water is such a pain < 1336111658 295644 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) monsters to watch out for: blink frogs (they're faster than you, appear in packs and blink), hydras (obviously), catoblepases (slower than you, when they breathe petrifying gas immediately move to an open tile) < 1336111662 769722 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I missing any? < 1336111664 182872 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, eels < 1336111666 484969 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :eels shoot lightning at you < 1336111670 31187 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they can't move out of the water < 1336111673 46341 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:47:50 < elliott> monqy hates them and from what I've read I hate them too. < 1336111676 78908 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :labyrinths are awfu < 1336111676 779382 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1336111679 83323 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:47:50 < ion> Labyrinths are great. < 1336111681 797162 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're awful < 1336111692 740640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh NihilistDandy < 1336111694 686949 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the tengu are listed as gray < 1336111698 584241 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can probably just tab them < 1336111699 649492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:08 tengu (H) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal (items) | HD: 5 | HP: 16-39 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10, 5, 5 | Fl: fly | Res: magic(20) | XP: 130. < 1336111702 300869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're weak as shit < 1336111704 784955 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:33:34 < elliott> do the 5 Zot levels, < 1336111708 512928 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo "do" < 1336111716 493360 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no u < 1336111717 146911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair time < 1336111719 963554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair has lots of food < 1336111721 561316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have rpois < 1336111726 395182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just G < 1336111727 635864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L < 1336111739 215276 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy, tab it < 1336111741 519178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungry ghosts make you more hungry < 1336111743 485216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336111744 795059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does crawl so < 1336111747 215107 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they really don't) < 1336111749 170297 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if they do < 1336111753 96841 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's negligibly little < 1336111756 734213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:09 hungry ghost[1/1]: A ghost whose primary attack is to decrease your satiation level, by a quarter of your current satiation - it will rapidly reduce you to very hungry or near starving if its attacks connect. If you don't have ranged attacks and can't hit hard and fast, beware. Also eats corpses on the ground. < 1336111759 243644 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like the monsters in shiren that make you incredibly hungry < 1336111765 164988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful < 1336111766 973350 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's that much? < 1336111767 504873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful- ok < 1336111771 54956 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've absolutely never noticed it < 1336111771 404925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaur warriors are < 1336111774 68399 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hey a centaur warrior < 1336111776 722504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah he < 1336111778 326471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three shotted it < 1336111781 305231 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:51:14 < elliott> And does he have enough food even if he can remember the maze? < 1336111782 632350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's too < 1336111783 160423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :strong < 1336111783 696519 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if it was in melee range < 1336111784 580440 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's trivial < 1336111787 507721 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :food doesn't really matter in laby < 1336111797 971502 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :laby is "free loot but you have to do this boring maze" < 1336111802 87469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336111802 581757 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336111804 569381 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :your centaur tactics are < 1336111804 924931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing < 1336111805 239056 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :-awful- < 1336111807 963128 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the worst < 1336111808 473026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and some labys have teletraps in their endings < 1336111820 74200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you watching this i < 1336111820 427643 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's how centaurs work: < 1336111822 906318 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you get teleported after finishing the laby < 1336111823 259538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have no idea how he's still alive < 1336111824 344114 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they see you they shoot you < 1336111827 623794 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they don't see you they move towards you < 1336111830 990657 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpeg is fervent about keeping them like that < 1336111832 761698 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are next to them they melee you which does almost no damage < 1336111840 223285 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I am aware of these things < 1336111841 461849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does he have any justification < 1336111845 775471 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least he was, before he excused himself from devteam (that happened, right?) < 1336111846 129865 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you're bad at centaurs < 1336111846 305640 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am diesel and give no fucks < 1336111849 657073 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1336111851 784876 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR MY GOD TROG < 1336111852 139535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: you'll die < 1336111853 910898 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun dying to the first centaur warrior pack you see < 1336111861 189521 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR TROG < 1336111861 546753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: the tactics that you don't need to bother with now < 1336111865 799687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will kill you in 5 turns later on < 1336111870 939465 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, yeah, I know < 1336111871 647687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter how many jokes you have < 1336111872 891601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1336111884 583524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1336111886 193103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GL go go go < 1336111893 897499 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm explorin' :P < 1336111896 325775 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, centaurs are easy if you < 1336111900 399749 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) duck behind cover < 1336111903 72762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336111903 767707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+P < 1336111904 554609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :momentous < 1336111905 966443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasion < 1336111906 149164 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) engage when they're a few tiels or less away < 1336111908 133593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+P < 1336111919 278107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: ctrl+p < 1336111920 873254 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Ctrl+p? < 1336111924 281 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1336111924 884105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shows previous messsages < 1336111926 130127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*messages < 1336111932 386375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You open the centaur like a pillowcase!!! < 1336111932 404183 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:04:10 < elliott> diesel < 1336111932 918497 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nice < 1336111933 978570 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :first !!! < 1336111934 158308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a real man now < 1336111937 422592 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow elliott already says "diesel"? < 1336111941 115392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Patashu started it < 1336111942 176146 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I taught him diesel < 1336111943 438638 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1336111944 565163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt know it was a thing < 1336111950 469052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1336111958 830303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just < 1336111963 256390 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, a hydra < 1336111964 666475 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336111964 997259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too gobsmacked by his still being alive to come up with other wrods < 1336111969 724103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should melee that hydra with your axe :D < 1336111972 467814 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :good bia roll < 1336111981 447109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :127-headed hydra < 1336111984 214543 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1336112008 291980 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :back up into a hallway < 1336112012 624073 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:10:41 < elliott> monqy: does he have any justification < 1336112013 667360 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll follow < 1336112013 992130 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112027 370600 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah < 1336112027 442457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is bia < 1336112028 240202 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336112030 717227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he sure got angry when minmay compared it to putting aliches on d:1 < 1336112030 895423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :41 hp < 1336112031 779850 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :brothers in arms < 1336112034 829894 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zerk < 1336112042 666367 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wtf < 1336112044 87946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuh < 1336112046 738576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112047 252933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112047 782793 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did those arrows hit him for so much < 1336112048 320459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not berk < 1336112049 295682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not berk < 1336112050 774680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112052 687924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you idiot < 1336112052 904749 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't zerk now < 1336112054 813268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112060 97053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what potions do you have < 1336112071 3038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heal wounds < 1336112082 870744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hit _ < 1336112085 114422 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse drinking game: feel like a dumbass every time you drink < 1336112087 682390 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm finally caught up < 1336112089 290431 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's happening! < 1336112093 430379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "fune" < 1336112093 450713 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's dying to a centaur pack < 1336112096 994899 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr8 < 1336112098 583603 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: impossible. < 1336112101 529960 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessarily dying < 1336112103 606458 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't 'care' about centaurs because he's 'diesel' < 1336112107 564926 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct < 1336112108 296434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now he's 'dying' < 1336112110 695549 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'yes' < 1336112114 58269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's going to just < 1336112114 259561 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :suiciding < 1336112116 507105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whack them and somehow survive < 1336112118 472506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336112121 914488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the universe hates our advice today < 1336112128 154314 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336112128 582413 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336112128 758851 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooo < 1336112130 354419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was stupid < 1336112131 382468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336112132 46382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaurs < 1336112133 854539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are worse < 1336112138 818296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you're not next to them < 1336112142 536254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336112143 110459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336112144 664426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't he have blink < 1336112149 338447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: what scrolls do you have good god < 1336112149 578479 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what < 1336112155 220779 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, he does < 1336112169 926185 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, blink there < 1336112175 213222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :south < 1336112178 33228 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sw < 1336112179 678412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1336112180 697061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336112184 277368 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait there < 1336112186 432232 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest < 1336112186 965455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1336112189 99296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1336112190 884580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336112193 654604 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336112198 185895 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIA < 1336112198 289209 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :bia again < 1336112203 112530 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he should have handed before resting, actually) < 1336112211 61555 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good advice < 1336112211 274542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand < 1336112211 844005 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk behind the ogre < 1336112212 557301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand of trog < 1336112215 357274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too < 1336112216 95682 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk behind ogr < 1336112217 727523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk behind ogre then hand < 1336112218 733119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112218 751327 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no dont hand < 1336112219 698210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112221 248229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong order < 1336112223 259287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ded < 1336112233 72845 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going < 1336112234 635370 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get one more BIA < 1336112234 835083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spectacularly < 1336112237 173352 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1336112239 287541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1336112240 904384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336112241 984523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you do that < 1336112244 369835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was no possible reason < 1336112246 721614 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336112248 302096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336112249 899622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1336112250 74502 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you dOING < 1336112251 311030 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1336112251 905148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1336112252 19022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1336112254 247807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go b < 1336112254 604665 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1336112258 691949 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uugh < 1336112261 364049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus fucking christ < 1336112263 979859 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336112263 998467 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b was the wRONG CHOICE < 1336112264 34983 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get one more BIA < 1336112264 158765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b again < 1336112269 582731 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahaha < 1336112269 953504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: sorry < 1336112273 658356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just < 1336112276 963328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the part where < 1336112277 496951 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fucking lucky < 1336112280 424955 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have gotten out of lose quicklier with nu < 1336112283 344434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i warned NihilistDandy about how this was going to kill him < 1336112284 160946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1336112286 833228 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336112288 516934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THREE MINUTES LATER < 1336112290 147548 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT DID NOT < 1336112293 986192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did not? < 1336112294 733546 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheer up < 1336112295 49585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not over yet < 1336112296 152588 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he might still die < 1336112298 712302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336112299 628878 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few normal centaurs left < 1336112306 802344 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nd is really bad at crawl < 1336112307 160745 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Centaur warrior is dead. Centaurs are made of babies. < 1336112308 40176 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336112309 820414 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he'll find a way to die to them < 1336112309 915112 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can’t fathom how he’s still alive. < 1336112311 233566 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sobad at crawl < 1336112311 768715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336112312 648756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1336112313 575267 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's insane < 1336112314 468514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is made of babies < 1336112316 197848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at 21 hp < 1336112317 459525 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :with his style of playing < 1336112325 735299 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah lots of things are made of babies at 21hp < 1336112329 656941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: 26 str, +1,+4 antimagic executioner's axe < 1336112336 39265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336112347 992769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fucking hate you for surviving another situation against all logic < 1336112348 345588 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d:1 trash for example is made of babies. on d:1 you don't even HAVE 21 hp < 1336112351 394047 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i need to watch this. someone link me the -cast < 1336112357 861699 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: D:1 trash is not trash if you're, e.g., a felid < 1336112358 218846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: telnet crawl.develz.org 345 < 1336112359 291065 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mibe reasons < 1336112359 645190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1336112360 351549 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TROG KNOWS NO LOGIC < 1336112363 183313 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I almost died to a hobgoblin) < 1336112364 776754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :choose nihilistdandy's letter < 1336112374 737939 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: d:1 trash isn't always trash on d:1 < 1336112377 757583 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: it's trash on d:13 < 1336112380 859238 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes < 1336112382 280780 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But he has gone to 1/5 health a number of times and then danced in arrow rain and then survived by miraculous luck. < 1336112385 319267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336112386 798940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUDE < 1336112388 295898 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: unless you get like an orc with disto that you somehow miss < 1336112389 220464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW HAVE YOU NOT LEARNED < 1336112401 600744 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he even have cover he could get behind that time < 1336112409 357132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336112410 776385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1336112412 857685 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he really didn't < 1336112413 923146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he was so cavalier about it!!! < 1336112417 465034 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since centaurs are faster than you < 1336112420 510557 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't go far for covers < 1336112426 719622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: do you really think he < 1336112426 737851 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yaktaurs you see later will be same speed, otoh) < 1336112430 141070 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336112430 159231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought out that reasoning in his head < 1336112431 274556 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not < 1336112431 822955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before doing it < 1336112432 908898 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying < 1336112437 244767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: GL < 1336112442 345179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GL immediately before you meet another centaur warrior < 1336112447 352519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lair has no centaurs, only hydrae < 1336112447 528647 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see what happened but likely I would just have charged them < 1336112449 653775 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not done exploring and flying in the face of logic < 1336112458 148128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've fed into this delusion too much < 1336112459 210292 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :backing up to cover can be worse than charging in many cases < 1336112463 129918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, good < 1336112465 611356 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, more centaurs < 1336112467 607752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yum yum < 1336112470 173032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :back up < 1336112472 733168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god < 1336112476 964245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1336112478 924047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't cut that corner < 1336112479 625215 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now go for the kill < 1336112480 129434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm crying < 1336112486 441273 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :move into melee range < 1336112487 111564 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336112488 447549 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bio won't help < 1336112492 438470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're too weak at your piety level < 1336112501 559071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: you realise it burns piety right < 1336112508 649198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to sacrifice corpses for every bia < 1336112519 261036 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, but damn it's fun < 1336112523 869907 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336112525 550641 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have plenty of corpses < 1336112526 788124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i love how he just runs around with no diagonals in realtime < 1336112528 392514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after bia < 1336112532 868385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBLEM SOLVED < 1336112534 224478 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :diagonals. what are those. < 1336112534 970453 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336112535 680195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just play musu my god < 1336112539 473983 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336112542 349262 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also also < 1336112544 68980 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyclops sounds bad < 1336112545 717075 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch out for that cyclops < 1336112547 363636 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have like no hp < 1336112548 606281 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also also ALSO < 1336112549 843728 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :use trog's hand < 1336112556 946618 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ve been trying to get ellie to play DESu. < 1336112560 727592 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :for moar hp < 1336112566 767142 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :musu was a joke, ion < 1336112568 43933 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cyclops < 1336112573 976872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112574 232709 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336112574 250913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336112574 508705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112577 714303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fucking < 1336112578 247519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :moron < 1336112580 588671 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahahah what < 1336112581 649809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112582 183744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112587 776790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to blink or something not just < 1336112589 8066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1336112589 558445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336112589 990487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112591 880836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for < 1336112592 278446 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did this haPpen < 1336112593 795875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : a minute < 1336112595 853325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112597 949401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP < 1336112599 952942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaah < 1336112601 945605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^ // < 1336112602 654375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did yoit's going to hit you with a rock and you will die < 1336112612 509456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: yOU HAVE MESSAGES PRESS _ < 1336112622 891068 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is laughing out loud < 1336112626 330778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1336112628 726695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you survive that < 1336112630 334487 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what use is checking messages if it's just squarelos greeting you < 1336112632 196994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i've been laughing for the past < 1336112634 143143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3-5 minutes < 1336112635 915399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112636 92436 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'mon < 1336112636 268623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336112637 544709 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :death by rock < 1336112637 900384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it throws < 1336112639 315131 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahah did you really thingk it would be a good idea to rest there < 1336112639 846503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocks < 1336112643 39750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahahaha < 1336112648 764322 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get up the stairs < 1336112650 575439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1336112651 107924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112652 111685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff < 1336112652 824215 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrONG WAY < 1336112652 883757 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [s]trong with nihilist < 1336112653 4894 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, plowing through thos e blinking scrolls < 1336112653 556434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something < 1336112655 713026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you idiot < 1336112660 218420 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-05-04.txt:05:16:20: sounds like the force is strong with nihilist < 1336112667 999117 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no don't go back < 1336112669 963107 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336112669 987321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1336112670 339739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP < 1336112671 586137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP FIGHTING < 1336112672 120565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY < 1336112672 656459 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aahhahahahahaha < 1336112674 904085 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, look at that < 1336112675 77545 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let him die < 1336112675 257578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARE YOU FIGHTING IT < 1336112676 362181 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cyclops found you < 1336112676 928825 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he deserves it < 1336112679 581525 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can this possibly have happened < 1336112679 932577 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1336112685 249985 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want this so much < 1336112686 312751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god this is < 1336112687 196770 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean wow < 1336112688 84360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funniest thing ever < 1336112688 261525 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a LESSON LEARNT < 1336112690 236779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: quaff < 1336112691 674981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336112692 740966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something < 1336112694 337474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1336112695 197905 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My cheek muscles hurt for laughing so much. < 1336112696 289015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336112698 252089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he should < 1336112700 388881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336112704 237250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you can quaff curing < 1336112709 217692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no tough < 1336112710 455914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't teleport < 1336112712 793915 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336112713 679277 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :read fear < 1336112715 198118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would die the next turn < 1336112719 8945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: would that help at this point < 1336112721 839427 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336112722 726572 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it works < 1336112723 258215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would it get a kick in first < 1336112723 966328 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't thinking teleport < 1336112724 363947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336112727 21524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: read fear < 1336112727 548435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1336112729 874818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff curing for god's sake < 1336112737 598112 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now go straight to < < 1336112738 668049 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck behind a wall or something < 1336112741 186003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah go < < 1336112743 878708 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at how much curing sucks < 1336112746 79502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112746 641745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :G< < 1336112751 181063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't trust you to < 1336112752 382145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :run by yourself < 1336112752 934173 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong way < 1336112753 804773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stoooop < 1336112755 619681 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you goign that way < 1336112755 802936 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :……………… < 1336112756 502055 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1336112758 818718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have digging < 1336112761 650207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112764 402198 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, no < 1336112765 289674 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just turn around < 1336112767 944892 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and go to the exit normally < 1336112770 467443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336112772 120630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit 5 < 1336112774 38877 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112777 239499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336112778 229195 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336112779 364197 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why DID YOU HIT 5 < 1336112788 156288 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::--D < 1336112788 210735 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336112790 196756 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336112791 93285 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::---D < 1336112792 188251 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336112800 272634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uhhh < 1336112801 427009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe bia? < 1336112802 691451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it < 1336112803 402742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112806 871051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmm < 1336112810 386327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't have any curing potions left right < 1336112810 777673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112811 97507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112812 511672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stp < 1336112814 495088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112818 267921 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use X < 1336112818 440274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sotp < 1336112820 432930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ostp < 1336112822 376787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112823 88651 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then somehow survive < 1336112824 506297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112825 932114 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can die to trog wrath < 1336112826 464407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112827 7031 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not doing anything. Just giving you info < 1336112828 243489 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be gr8 < 1336112828 418758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112830 463843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112832 419365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try fear again < 1336112834 540983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think < 1336112838 671847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading fear is probably your best bet < 1336112841 227976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336112842 407914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336112842 509074 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won’t work again so soon. < 1336112844 146496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you have like < 1336112844 503258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1336112845 384269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice fear collection < 1336112850 162547 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIR < 1336112851 101190 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey I'm back < 1336112852 648976 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not dead yet? < 1336112853 912026 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe fog? < 1336112854 796734 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was tele, elliott. telliott < 1336112860 920344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: he practically is < 1336112860 938701 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: he did bad things < 1336112866 392917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's rested and run into the cyclops again about 5 times < 1336112867 124612 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe fog, he says. < 1336112867 243010 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1336112868 833593 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such bad things < 1336112873 635915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: just < 1336112874 477348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do nothing < 1336112875 188132 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, fog only helps against ranged attacks < 1336112875 363090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let us < 1336112876 69800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :think < 1336112880 999133 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let the cyclops kill you < 1336112884 22184 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Good to know < 1336112885 842009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no i < 1336112888 993947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :want him to die to a rat or something < 1336112889 171979 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won't learn if you keep escaping death < 1336112891 303991 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336112899 93870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's what i said btw < 1336112902 653297 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if you will or won't learn if you keep escaping death but < 1336112905 309245 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want you to die < 1336112907 226722 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point < 1336112908 156199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: just < 1336112908 868387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :press i < 1336112909 43346 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336112910 702753 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this character can live on and become something glorious < 1336112911 437419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let us look at your inventory < 1336112919 95520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would enslavement work on a cyclops < 1336112921 4905 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, disintegration might work < 1336112923 163175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112923 341753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336112923 874292 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would, but MR check first < 1336112926 787233 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336112934 118772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also might not hit for all the cyclops hp < 1336112936 550379 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, a bread ration might work < 1336112938 48847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enslavement might be best because < 1336112939 462984 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, well Gretell's not here, so... < 1336112940 348854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't hit you any more < 1336112944 553100 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wield the chaos dagger < 1336112947 745639 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1336112948 949277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336112949 340464 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"trust me on this" < 1336112949 835517 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'wield the chaos dagger' < 1336112950 188469 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336112953 703006 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336112958 567701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it COULD work < 1336112958 744872 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then hit the cyclops < 1336112959 106026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1336112961 527638 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might banish it < 1336112962 237530 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Throw the chaos dagger is the correct answer < 1336112965 351796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on it's worth a shot < 1336112966 386079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: zap enslavement at the cyclops < 1336112967 275918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like < 1336112971 43796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not going to work < 1336112972 689158 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what < 1336112973 681955 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you throw it the chaos won't "proc" < 1336112973 826431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing else will either < 1336112975 802275 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably out of rocks at this point < 1336112979 879470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: ahahaha < 1336112982 183426 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust Me On This < 1336112984 676789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1336112985 32556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336112985 917241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1336112989 517278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he survive that < 1336112990 755726 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdr < 1336112993 502202 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336112993 581901 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [s]trong with nihilist < 1336112995 417966 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh just hit it < 1336112995 956833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :easily resists < 1336112999 17955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means high MR right < 1336113000 976247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336113001 328490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113002 39871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1336113002 960869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hit it < 1336113004 409938 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either you'll kill it soon enough or die < 1336113004 908872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113005 89038 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's how close it was to making the check < 1336113005 906396 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-05-04.txt:06:24:20: 2012-05-04.txt:05:16:20: sounds like the force is strong with nihilist < 1336113005 973877 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahaha < 1336113007 33857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1336113007 211762 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :YESSSSS < 1336113007 919168 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :aposfkofdijgofhjtiuhyjtdy8t < 1336113008 830094 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1336113008 983231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336113009 162978 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :[rtijogfhiojghiojghiojgho < 1336113010 963785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1336113011 666346 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hushiudfihuvdgiydvhidfhiudfhiudfhoudf < 1336113012 906943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sklndgfm, hljkdhttslrae < 1336113013 443032 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats I guess < 1336113022 664178 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1336113022 952935 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one in a million, kid < 1336113026 741176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahaa < 1336113026 759397 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1336113026 891362 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m sure crawl’s source code has special dice rolls for NihilistDandy. < 1336113028 866402 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he'll die to this < 1336113033 376282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was expecting him to < 1336113035 142853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :start autoexploring again < 1336113036 207125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before resting < 1336113038 157913 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick < 1336113040 475878 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let him fend for himself on this one < 1336113040 848579 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's all stop giving him advice < 1336113042 832802 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see how long he lasts < 1336113043 363118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow he actually < 1336113043 894203 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336113044 71421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ducked < 1336113045 513257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1336113049 744888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :christ < 1336113062 91909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he's doing this purposely to upset us by this point < 1336113084 499525 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am actually a crawl master~ < 1336113089 817345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336113090 208314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest < 1336113090 876459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1336113091 935494 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair < 1336113092 514048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1336113093 65839 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336113094 444501 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty hilarious < 1336113094 802609 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336113096 48735 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more advice < 1336113101 57828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im still giving advice but < 1336113101 826885 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :until he starts being good at crawl spontaneously < 1336113106 76920 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what < 1336113106 226312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be advice of me not clawing my skin off < 1336113107 289656 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :troll advice? < 1336113110 531802 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336113115 466925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i have this < 1336113117 62552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrible vision < 1336113119 366676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that he's going to win this game < 1336113123 34149 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336113124 441476 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be funny < 1336113127 146794 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I bet he dies on vaults 8 < 1336113137 804029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: lair < 1336113138 689435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair now < 1336113140 398166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking lair < 1336113141 260274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair < 1336113150 526980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336113151 424045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1336113152 292297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1336113154 239965 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336113154 417288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bia < 1336113159 318897 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he can do the lair whenever he wants, maaaan < 1336113165 70638 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :bia is going to suck < 1336113166 91124 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to his piety < 1336113170 235419 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd use wands < 1336113182 589733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1336113198 230013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336113198 761396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336113199 115420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont < 1336113200 185382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever < 1336113201 772761 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :let him < 1336113202 304167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :melee a hydra < 1336113215 724993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113217 652095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you idiot < 1336113218 891572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113226 926585 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mêlée it < 1336113229 798755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did < 1336113232 341531 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did < 1336113232 405171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it grew another head < 1336113233 464643 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was an attempt at BIA < 1336113241 646935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1336113242 889498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eight-headed < 1336113244 305456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hits even harder < 1336113245 371336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336113250 783707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have heal wounds or whatever < 1336113255 650392 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :drank it all < 1336113256 909634 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the effect of a hydra growing a head? < 1336113257 776471 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :read all his blinking < 1336113263 336285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it gets stronger < 1336113266 5760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: hit _ < 1336113266 682849 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: more attacks < 1336113267 186286 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It will become even more badass. < 1336113274 908156 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it lose health? < 1336113283 11652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: art < 1336113286 735525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1336113290 182104 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sav'd < 1336113292 132383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: try bia again < 1336113293 17747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336113294 668445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :die < 1336113296 475984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1336113299 753957 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIE IT IS < 1336113302 198031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he even have any options here < 1336113302 428298 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays with Bitlbee < 1336113306 315719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336113306 672983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113307 382358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sotp < 1336113308 277818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113310 255541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1336113310 273559 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee < 1336113312 249928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113314 207638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113315 382993 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow are you growing the hydra < 1336113315 698990 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is that picture squarelos sent < 1336113315 914440 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheer up < 1336113316 270666 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wand it < 1336113316 288873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113317 159375 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost dead < 1336113317 864003 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it heals < 1336113318 218359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113320 165429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1336113320 343849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wand it wand it < 1336113320 798952 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, who are you talking to? < 1336113320 879346 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :use lightning on it < 1336113322 194663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336113324 314634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he cannot survive this < 1336113326 265171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disinteg it < 1336113328 221786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: NihilistDandy < 1336113330 591109 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336113332 513101 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't disint it < 1336113333 219763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1336113334 459868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336113335 773208 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightning it < 1336113335 954770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightning? < 1336113338 431410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightning < 1336113341 261046 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :disint has an MR check < 1336113342 353861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1336113343 289862 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is gay < 1336113345 27177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking christ < 1336113345 382159 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336113363 711807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336113364 811871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink frog < 1336113365 342656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zombies < 1336113365 876345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are < 1336113367 675181 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336113367 852356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1336113369 799963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will die < 1336113371 746843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next turn < 1336113374 557806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113376 299294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113377 759574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sotp < 1336113379 717906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113379 886425 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to the upstairs < 1336113381 839657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1336113383 761231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336113385 939948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wraiths are not < 1336113387 753483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1336113389 738242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an upstairs right there < 1336113391 721935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :take it < 1336113410 446464 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow look at that < 1336113412 17994 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :-magically- < 1336113414 343920 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are out of danger < 1336113418 885075 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't staircases fucking amazing < 1336113421 562000 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not like brogue's) < 1336113422 35976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait until a centaur warrior comes 'round the corner < 1336113423 365942 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336113429 647472 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1336113431 186049 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a centaur appears < 1336113432 607870 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he can read fog < 1336113434 581247 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since he's in a corridor < 1336113437 741245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336113438 310573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair < 1336113439 203854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :immediately < 1336113440 83414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336113441 899629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will not accept < 1336113444 640458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disagreements < 1336113445 747994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GL < 1336113447 883577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GL < 1336113449 826412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GL < 1336113450 382955 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected him to go back down the stairs without resting and then kill the wraith without dying. < 1336113451 308401 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to find food < 1336113451 846306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!!! < 1336113453 733997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GL < 1336113455 895557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: :D < 1336113456 310241 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat? < 1336113458 413145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: dude the lair has < 1336113462 751672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many things you can eat < 1336113465 637366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's crawling with minor bugs < 1336113470 287608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the entrance is < 1336113472 105680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on this level < 1336113484 716107 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeesh, fine < 1336113513 610762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GL < 1336113528 360373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f i n a l l y < 1336113555 554367 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, let's take bets on death cause < 1336113557 44554 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) hydra < 1336113559 15695 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) blink frog pack < 1336113562 540074 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) death yak pack < 1336113564 222706 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :4) comedy option < 1336113565 778235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :green rat < 1336113569 887985 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 4 < 1336113571 324065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: enxhant weapon < 1336113572 223683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*enchant < 1336113596 703964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :his EV is 9 < 1336113598 303184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened with that < 1336113602 477374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he got drained < 1336113605 663633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wasn't training armour < 1336113610 399527 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :draining lowers your skills? < 1336113615 4255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it? ok < 1336113620 454357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: can you please start taking our advice < 1336113621 522592 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :god I hope it doesn't < 1336113621 699439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more seriouslyn ow < 1336113623 290511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*seriously now < 1336113627 716949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i have no idea, i was just guessing < 1336113646 84000 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been taking it seriously, I've just also been ignoring some of it for entertainment value < 1336113654 233494 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't pretend you don't enjoy my exploits :D < 1336113674 848187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if that cloakis better than yours < 1336113676 47695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1336113679 364190 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty funny when he did absolutely everything wrong < 1336113680 679396 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lived anyway < 1336113687 639549 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he was xl27 it'd be a candidate for great near misses < 1336113711 105787 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elven cloaks add stealthiness, but that’s irrelevant for your character. < 1336113712 4659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: if these aren't some of the most-watched tvs < 1336113714 303982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no justice < 1336113719 746313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*don't become < 1336113738 359149 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, are there people outside this channel watching this shit? < 1336113741 105334 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The TV would need to have this IRC discussion merged to the game. < 1336113747 538929 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That may be more hilarious < 1336113749 70901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: no, but moments can be recalled for TV < 1336113751 802371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :later on < 1336113753 895619 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neato < 1336113756 10773 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :your meat has gone off i think < 1336113759 832659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's usually used to laugh at tile players' stupid deaths) < 1336113764 25556 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: TWSS < 1336113774 194400 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tile players? < 1336113782 400555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have five viewers, so me ion quintopia monqy < 1336113784 422751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Patashu < 1336113789 637265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: people who play with the graphical tilesets < 1336113802 935730 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What makes them more prone to stupid deaths? < 1336113814 518147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiles are awful, people who use them are awful < 1336113856 186734 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought ten. http://www.ebay.com/itm/MACGYVER-Original-floating-home-used-Richard-Dean-Andersons-home-TV-series-/140738046722?afsrc=1 < 1336113867 474149 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you have axes at 26 or 27 < 1336113869 602877 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn on armour and fighting < 1336113894 594205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love lair's doors < 1336113896 16387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with them < 1336113898 167013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just < 1336113899 406996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :put doors there < 1336113903 614232 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lair generates a dungeon map < 1336113906 111353 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then randomly adds noise < 1336113939 625478 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :J for jelly eh? < 1336113976 458568 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^F. < 1336113980 764876 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Due to the incredible response on this auction, we have contacted the Guinness Book of World Records to see if we can create a new category for "Most Views on a Single Item on eBay"." < 1336114011 26694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :G> < 1336114028 891926 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, shit < 1336114039 423370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :< < 1336114049 293557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assign Patashu to blink frog duty < 1336114076 310685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: no point wandering around < 1336114080 823255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can go downstairs, it just requires planning < 1336114090 823208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Patashu: monqy: < 1336114099 435192 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336114106 936145 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336114127 553782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's going to die, you have to arrange it to be enterataining < 1336114129 159320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*entertaining < 1336114148 527575 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though knowing me, I might *not* die in the most hilarious way possible < 1336114192 417826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: if you don't advice him < 1336114193 479459 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus, I've been playing for 4 hours? < 1336114195 248693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll start doing stupid stuff < 1336114197 47328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*advise idk < 1336114282 784106 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he’ll “start doing stupid stuff”? < 1336114288 74931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah < 1336114289 492735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336114290 523440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do something < 1336114293 921946 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stuff* < 1336114315 829101 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press and hold tab < 1336114318 178398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336114318 493534 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don’t) < 1336114331 280179 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna go ahead and smoke a pipe while you guys confer. My strategy involves BIA and holding tab. Maybe some Hand < 1336114336 495261 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, blink frogs < 1336114337 207379 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :read ?tele < 1336114340 390311 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or jerk. Haven't done that in a while < 1336114341 275545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: he's on < < 1336114342 696575 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*berk < 1336114345 207673 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336114346 284934 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the < then < 1336114347 321943 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stairdance < 1336114348 59006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did < 1336114350 950041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's awful < 1336114354 541457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1336114355 464461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1336114357 41506 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336114358 918023 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was an awesome Freudian typo. < 1336114360 204820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: press < and kill it < 1336114360 379866 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stairdancing is a great idea < 1336114362 688073 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now he only has to kill one thing < 1336114365 16763 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or two I guess) < 1336114368 249048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i suspect it was intentional < 1336114381 323325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sacrifice the other corpse < 1336114383 451109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then rest < 1336114405 820862 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyan ugly thing? < 1336114409 374702 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugly things can appear in lair? < 1336114437 207289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was lucky as shit < 1336114442 149485 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest < 1336114443 972814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336114444 328756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336114444 857494 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336114444 978850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336114445 781027 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now rest < 1336114447 216354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest < 1336114448 106945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest < 1336114450 86024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest < 1336114453 810161 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill that < 1336114454 698090 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and eat it < 1336114461 62491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336114462 834736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you DOING < 1336114462 853460 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can kill it it's OK < 1336114465 673573 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336114491 233275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aand again < 1336114498 620582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good < 1336114589 217263 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Not great for mêlée < 1336114601 921476 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's alone you can tab it < 1336114611 448609 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot how aggressive my autocorrect is < 1336114616 195146 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336114618 896610 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :your autocorrect -does- that < 1336114622 852986 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1336114623 566880 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were just being annoying < 1336114624 446219 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1336114636 893764 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336114639 433633 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, no < 1336114641 768287 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the 'sick' status turns off regen) < 1336114658 318784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yake < 1336114661 600150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you watching this < 1336114666 146770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not to b mise < 1336114666 167128 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, yaks < 1336114677 487994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how you run to < 1336114679 105319 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still no Trog gifts? I suppose not since you’ve been using BIA so much. < 1336114682 173655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that don't even resemble chokepoints < 1336114684 120197 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, new ones. < 1336114685 121143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: he's had two... < 1336114686 71586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336114691 170791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah he needs to < 1336114695 992926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p on all those corpses < 1336114697 405373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p all over them < 1336114722 25041 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :New wand < 1336114729 552584 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest < 1336114738 396992 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1336114739 842205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zap test < 1336114745 721567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it's only 84/92 he's been worse < 1336114759 251217 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Against a wall, so it gets id’d if it’s a wand of digging. < 1336114863 986996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: black mambas aren't that dangerous < 1336114869 574360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have rpois; they just hit kinda hard < 1336114870 635480 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure they are < 1336114871 934017 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he's diesel < 1336114888 680418 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1336114892 585759 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the wrong E < 1336114901 502606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats < 1336114905 347455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :potions < 1336114906 728693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :id all those potions < 1336114907 832601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe r < 1336114918 872533 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try r on first. < 1336114925 667821 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a scroll of remove curse. < 1336114950 346319 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ID a potion < 1336114953 577999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :O < 1336114954 283038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :id O < 1336114958 891639 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336114963 343465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful < 1336114964 580696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff 'em < 1336114968 632977 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1336114970 110476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336114970 425451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336114975 125930 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will so do it < 1336114976 539523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok do it fine < 1336114979 833960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell not < 1336114980 718993 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1336114993 809081 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A GIFT < 1336115001 545470 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :junk < 1336115005 877704 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336115008 2503 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's flaming < 1336115008 338722 :noseovertail!noseoverta@user-0c8hjkm.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336115009 98445 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's a swap < 1336115009 788439 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1336115014 540734 :noseovertail!noseoverta@user-0c8hjkm.cable.mindspring.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is my channel! < 1336115016 143244 :noseovertail!noseoverta@user-0c8hjkm.cable.mindspring.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yea! < 1336115019 714215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome noseovertail < 1336115022 886165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ noseovertail ? esoteric < 1336115024 906915 :noseovertail!noseoverta@user-0c8hjkm.cable.mindspring.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey elliot! < 1336115025 85021 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, anti-magic again < 1336115027 532596 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336115029 773847 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :noseovertail: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1336115031 818968 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to the exec < 1336115041 186853 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :noseovertail: This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1336115042 80032 :noseovertail!noseoverta@user-0c8hjkm.cable.mindspring.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o I thought this was esoteric terrance mckenna style < 1336115042 118379 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, yaks < 1336115046 941680 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now can you swap back to the exec < 1336115048 66468 :noseovertail!noseoverta@user-0c8hjkm.cable.mindspring.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL thanks < 1336115057 732446 :noseovertail!noseoverta@user-0c8hjkm.cable.mindspring.com PART :#esoteric < 1336115059 581980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No esotericism here. < 1336115060 820089 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336115061 712952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just anti-magic. < 1336115068 669295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that guy was in the wrong place. < 1336115074 707959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The excitement of having found the right channel tipped my off. < 1336115075 957118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*me < 1336115083 36358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody has trouble finding a channel about esoteric programming languages. < 1336115094 317034 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. Next level. < 1336115100 527199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lair is 8 levels btw < 1336115107 608828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not going to find a better axe < 1336115144 326241 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only kind of axe you'd want at this point is speed, vampiric, or flaming (for hydras) < 1336115159 22426 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe holy wrath but you're not getting that < 1336115218 51268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: what were the two rings < 1336115239 565433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :junk < 1336115241 517099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336115245 167177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily < 1336115249 245424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not better than what you have < 1336115304 489406 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336115306 299865 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at all the things < 1336115315 559627 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you need to keep hitting the hydra that isn't hurt at all < 1336115323 489244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336115323 835318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336115324 371640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1336115326 669923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going to die next turn < 1336115327 567057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336115329 504059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sotp moving < 1336115331 401570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336115332 666123 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool < 1336115333 58724 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1336115333 413783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336115335 499010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336115336 384061 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :open the map < 1336115337 490273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336115346 793952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336115347 188848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1336115348 505010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336115352 628896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: you are going to die < 1336115354 505644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do not listen to us < 1336115354 683548 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1336115358 425318 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :use hand to regen faster if you're in danger < 1336115358 949558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit __ < 1336115360 242462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit _ < 1336115362 550768 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not going to die < 1336115374 163726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw are you training armour and fighting yet < 1336115376 158143 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1336115376 864657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: he was going to < 1336115383 395800 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not at mindelay yet < 1336115384 672268 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336115385 723407 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said at 26 or 27 < 1336115386 252605 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to you can < 1336115394 6931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit _ < 1336115400 823290 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know if the 'min delay first' rule still applys for execs) < 1336115402 55002 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's squarelos? < 1336115409 469196 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :having defenses and hp is important < 1336115414 348716 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : This is my channel! < 1336115414 599887 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yea! < 1336115414 841466 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obsessing over mindelay is silly < 1336115416 427546 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, ok < 1336115418 400644 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn on fighting and armour < 1336115430 516513 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: other benefits from Fighting < 1336115433 526298 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like: damage etc etc < 1336115442 810472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it worth focusing axes < 1336115444 757996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it's so high < 1336115450 100739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd defocus axes and focus fighting < 1336115451 178223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mindelay" < 1336115468 496348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: ps you're near starving < 1336115472 17835 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: what armour are you in < 1336115573 792469 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> wait until not nauseous so you can finish your chunks > eat a ration instead??? < 1336115574 545410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1336115576 12755 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to crawl < 1336115591 573219 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Nausea's annoying < 1336115601 665198 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, but you didn't have to eat a ration either < 1336115606 60356 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nbd, keep playing < 1336115626 898824 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336115628 483086 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to the upstairs < 1336115642 900549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does he never notice _ < 1336115648 469900 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1336115649 853717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1336115655 767974 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go up again < 1336115656 469574 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336115657 537561 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok too late < 1336115663 858264 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336115671 680730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336115674 333059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go up and down the stairs < 1336115675 394769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at your leisure < 1336115678 619035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336115678 798710 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1336115682 629005 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :going up and down the stairs takes 1-2 turns < 1336115684 183549 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1336115684 721420 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1336115684 892029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1336115685 897325 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woof < 1336115689 496052 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was awesome < 1336115694 19210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you do that < 1336115695 122522 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly I just needed to go to bed < 1336115702 545310 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was fun :D < 1336115704 707165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: he died < 1336115710 531287 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he died deliberately though < 1336115712 335936 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it wasn't as funny < 1336115713 4824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: i predict you will never reach that stage again < 1336115725 500431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:15 who is nihilistdandy? < 1336115729 181225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to answer this question < 1336115731 574192 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think you will find that Trog provides for the ones who bring him blood < 1336115750 982450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:15 and why did they stairdance a hydra several times without any plan? < 1336115764 787691 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has already begun < 1336115775 583013 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololol < 1336115777 492671 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TROG < 1336115779 87980 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TROG < 1336115780 161138 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TROG < 1336115781 215422 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TROG < 1336115797 480189 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't you go to bed without dying? < 1336115798 422372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: he's on tv < 1336115807 603548 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Link? < 1336115816 28204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: telnet termcast.develz.org < 1336115817 269923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1336115882 226619 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no did you die < 1336115962 18684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:19 this isn't bad for 5 games < 1336115964 853297 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but on purpose and to trivial challenges < 1336115964 871576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how can he ever understand < 1336116171 991503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: muck < 1336116196 908328 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336116204 320346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you even know what muck is < 1336116363 620063 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336116382 126322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1336116390 486510 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming we're still talking about text games, that is < 1336116399 444753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but probably not what you're thinking of < 1336116420 453431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm referring to mummy chaos knight < 1336116424 906882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: muck!!! < 1336116428 274568 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, lol < 1336116451 522427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: no you're doing it all wrong < 1336116453 672623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :die and go for muck < 1336116466 751830 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next time I'll play muck < 1336116470 935294 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I will rock it < 1336116482 12304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody rocks muck < 1336116486 252759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even monqy and all he plays is muck < 1336116493 565580 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ragdoll rocks muck < 1336116517 808605 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, too much talking in that channel < 1336116522 615457 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: you are going to disto a gsc and wield it right < 1336116551 80255 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never let go < 1336116645 872607 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tempting < 1336116654 330935 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I want to win or have fun yet < 1336116658 398900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do < 1336116659 815281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~both~ < 1336116682 91961 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1336116683 874424 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you serious < 1336116690 409383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336116691 49201 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, esolangs doesn't use php-cgi does it? < 1336116693 592921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :win with disto gsc < 1336116694 345828 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever < 1336116698 35793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Why'd you ask? < 1336116698 747553 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, ogres can't use armour, right? < 1336116702 506215 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I should go spell casting hybrid at some point < 1336116704 675965 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, bug, etc. < 1336116714 25866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses php-fcgi. < 1336116721 289980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nginx+php-fpm are not affected" - so no. < 1336116730 209742 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ok < 1336116742 416290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?-s dumping source code would be irrelevant, anyway. < 1336116742 621916 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ ask bf do ft id msg pl rc v wn < 1336116751 530885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only exposed files are common MediaWiki stuff. < 1336116830 697232 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-217-209.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Life is a more usable programming environment than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASIC_Programming < 1336116846 772183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: you're meant to dig or sth i think < 1336116877 154150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:34 Deleted sastopher[1/1]: Orc -> Elf -> Lair -> Swamp -> Snake -> Slime < 1336116879 535059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what an order < 1336116916 66122 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: It's probably easier to make a game of pong, anyway < 1336116921 432278 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now interested in zero-player games < 1336116945 893095 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-217-209.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: I'm not sure that BASIC Programming cart is even TC. < 1336116955 187493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: aka simulations < 1336116972 438659 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-217-209.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :While Game of Life, of course, is. Modulo infinite space, of course. < 1336116981 715282 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1336116989 163577 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math wins again < 1336117016 668897 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what the hell < 1336117019 366764 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have -five- heal wounds potions < 1336117021 287249 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm only on D:3 < 1336117023 415200 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1336117038 987619 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'You can now bend space around yourself.' < 1336117039 907471 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that good < 1336117046 579496 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happened to me once < 1336117052 602816 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's blink+dispersal < 1336117053 141780 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336117071 622477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should play crawl so all this stuff makes sense to you < 1336117078 163797 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you always bend space around yourself? < 1336117079 894352 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs: like video game powerups for real life < 1336117113 750106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: now ##crawl know my SECRET IDENTITY!!! < 1336117123 539461 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'You can now bend more space around yourself' just lacks panache. < 1336117216 557416 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336117218 858829 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that bend space sure helped! < 1336117227 397797 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :~first heal wounds quaff of the game~ < 1336117240 241041 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, that you're a scientist who, in a tragic type-level programming accident, created the most chaotic IRC bot possessed of AI and a taste for text games ever seen? < 1336117264 207063 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot being a close second. < 1336117291 501777 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does DF count as a text game? < 1336117307 510510 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well i was rambling in #gamedev the other day about non-interactive games < 1336117324 487501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336117332 285261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather, a glyph game or whatever. < 1336117339 424534 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how flash movies on newgrounds might almost count as games < 1336117365 533188 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys are already familiar with the nature of my rants though. < 1336117385 322861 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That flash is awful and shut up that is the end of the discussion? < 1336117397 540917 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nods < 1336117446 373069 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you imagine it would take to wipe PHP off the programming map? < 1336117474 858677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tipex < 1336117481 263286 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than extermination (fsvo "other") < 1336117520 991264 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Tipp-Ex < 1336117534 495612 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you think...YES < 1336117536 71171 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1336117543 511003 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :An Israel pop band has been the key all along < 1336117550 693805 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Israeli < 1336117550 854993 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm.. drive it to near extinction < 1336117568 630574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fuckyou < 1336117580 53696 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*marryme < 1336117594 161108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teapacks (also known as Tipex) (Hebrew: טיפקס‎) was an Israeli band that formed in 1988 in the southern Israeli city of Sderot. Originally the band was named after the correction fluid Tipp-Ex, but the name was then changed so as not to infringe on the well-known brand. < 1336117608 868366 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fair point < 1336117630 219121 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to guy for tipp-ex < 1336117647 853205 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being European helps with that < 1336117662 660505 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :We call that whiteout (Wite-Out) < 1336117711 221583 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-217-209.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, um, that's the first time I've seen "Tipp-Ex". < 1336117728 133237 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, elliot < 1336117730 796730 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :want to see how my first ogak died < 1336117731 721107 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was unreal < 1336117735 815630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI_S0tswjWc < 1336117740 555293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: k < 1336117750 551320 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably played wrong < 1336117751 789077 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was funny < 1336117759 704457 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like this song already < 1336117770 699162 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sound a bit like DDT or Gogol Bordello < 1336117789 814093 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a little like Zlad < 1336117820 77823 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :blonk < 1336117824 537816 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, meph < 1336117835 248066 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I hit it a bunch but suck at combat < 1336117839 184543 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have to guzzle ?heal wounds like a moron < 1336117844 238419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: this song is actually great < 1336117846 531318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1336117852 586908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for eurovision at the least < 1336117858 705348 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm into it < 1336117874 735898 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I realize 'this isn't working' < 1336117877 393711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: your error was using mephitic cloud < 1336117878 100335 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I back up and use the goblin as cover < 1336117883 305331 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :until the goblin gets confused and stops being my meat shield < 1336117886 524443 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I just run for the stairs < 1336117887 55241 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1336117888 653301 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this happens < 1336117901 839865 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking game < 1336117906 230679 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I laughed, though < 1336117909 803849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: shachaf: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/monqy.png < 1336117910 901752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336117919 132772 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got confused and fell down the stairs < 1336117920 62325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you neglected to misspell your name!!! < 1336117922 211363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise gr8 gr8 gr8 < 1336117923 97651 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet it still took like 3 turns for it to stop < 1336117929 549726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i misspell "monqy" < 1336117930 79384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you look like < 1336117934 645344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: monky < 1336117936 769965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336117945 351972 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also "forgot" to put monqy before the thing < 1336117954 415494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok you get a special self-portrait < 1336117956 10766 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe my "forgettings" cancel each other out < 1336117966 137231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to set that as the esolang wiki's background < 1336117993 654793 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking ghoul next time. I like getting health from consuming corpses < 1336118001 834232 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :& yes that is what i look at < 1336118004 321447 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially in real life < 1336118011 959518 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's exactly what I expected < 1336118037 699368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you a pear < 1336118040 397239 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336118046 101464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336118056 548095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not < 1336118060 595255 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are all pears here. Pear-reviewed esolang discussion < 1336118176 586867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's crawl < 1336118184 231792 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know < 1336118192 324234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1336118253 75248 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, crawl? You guys should try it! It's a roguelike, but with no rules or strategies, just cowboys < 1336118372 455128 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :console cowboys? < 1336118406 671837 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: help should i use faith or clarity < 1336118427 971565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336118429 603435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :faith means xom acts more but clarity means he won't confuse me (assuming that bug's fixed where xom confuses through clarity) which means less lame deaths < 1336118438 836024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to laugh or win < 1336118442 747856 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336118452 212233 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ostensibly less lame deaths means more laughs < 1336118461 427121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for clarity then < 1336118571 296187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336118572 896225 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Fri May 4 01:02:51 2012 < 1336118578 51693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oops < 1336118582 967926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deazly < 1336118766 6112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: rip < 1336118827 377937 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Xom is what was missing from my last play < 1336118849 246293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336118852 617107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xom would make your play more NihilistDandy < 1336118856 733732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think you need to make it less NihilistDandy instead < 1336118867 680794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you watching squarelos? < 1336118875 515549 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, should I? < 1336118878 731945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336118880 899118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always an experience < 1336118904 958245 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who the hell is he, anyway? < 1336118908 805302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1336118909 26943 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In channel, that is < 1336118912 958269 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1336118916 488791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the second time i've told you that < 1336118934 281015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the flashing square thing is his, that's not part of the game itself < 1336118947 855600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he has both autoexplore and a custom autofight script on space and bashes it a lot < 1336118948 391877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1336118950 157284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda like you actually < 1336118966 647447 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be in love < 1336118974 861878 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is much faster, of course < 1336119006 705278 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "squarelos the Poker" < 1336119008 345321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: running from sigmund? how could you < 1336119020 859993 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was slowed then got confused and then sandwiched with an ogre < 1336119027 735587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just wants to say hi < 1336119105 644561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should convert to chei < 1336119171 66175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336119184 248291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: exactly < 1336119197 826399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine all the fun of xom and all the slow of chei < 1336119421 151076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:16 who's on squarelos? < 1336119424 168466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand this question < 1336119427 709965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: has anyone but you ever been on squraelos < 1336119430 10760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*squarelos < 1336119435 100525 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336119440 228203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past year < 1336119444 480425 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336119448 55782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past 6 months < 1336119451 606669 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1336119453 906997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past 3 months < 1336119454 969756 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask blade < 1336119460 348567 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who isn't online < 1336119462 486471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past 24 hours < 1336119464 796775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past 3 minutes < 1336119536 423929 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got 6 silver javelins from Xom < 1336119552 310179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you really < 1336119553 728539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing muck < 1336119557 801430 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1336119560 469761 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing okay, too < 1336119563 284859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you might want to tell NihilistDandy why muck is a bad idea even if xom < 1336119569 170986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE YOU DIDN'T TO ME FOR MY FIRST FEW GAMES < 1336119569 526858 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: muck is a bad idea < 1336119581 34894 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was i even around then < 1336119581 53139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said why not tha < 1336119582 618272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that < 1336119585 992948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i don't remember < 1336119594 812106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i chose muck because of you though < 1336119618 266861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: it's this bad: 09:20 muck[1/1]: Win this (without abandoning Xom) and you can win any argument before it starts. < 1336119672 206830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a great grinder strategy < 1336119672 741773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336119673 629502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336119675 82815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're kidding me < 1336119679 591321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: watch nihilistdandy < 1336119680 123247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just < 1336119685 832094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meleed grinder with 22 hp and died < 1336119692 848819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but xom revived him and gave him a crimson imp < 1336119704 350606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is awful he's going to survive again < 1336119705 226804 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit was so cash < 1336119709 968 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I died < 1336119713 461630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god < 1336119717 737990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't play muck < 1336119721 475131 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being crazy is totally worth it, though < 1336119729 756398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can play ck < 1336119732 56484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't play mu with it < 1336119748 286715 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lack of hunger is really convenient, though < 1336119754 463371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but < 1336119757 728346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also can't quaff potions < 1336119763 612743 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, short sword < 1336119764 197506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which xom makes even worse than it already is < 1336119770 577212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spear is the best starting weapon < 1336119771 816348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy wisdom < 1336119782 417407 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, short sword is the worst < 1336119799 218884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should open that door < 1336119800 110355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336119801 12817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one < 1336119805 420345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336119808 114389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if youre playing muck < 1336119813 763434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then thats the kind of thing youre doing on a regular basis < 1336119831 158975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you dare fucking survive < 1336119835 267924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ < 1336119840 420714 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336119911 700202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1336119926 974841 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: chaos spear zerked the trol < 1336119951 817229 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :SID < 1336119956 332554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: has anyone won muck with xom < 1336119956 350720 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336119960 281372 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336119964 346474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: it doesn't matter < 1336119965 949579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're muck < 1336119971 255411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick anything, you will die the same < 1336119981 123126 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: contrary to popular belief, i'm not the best player, and i certainly got worse after my hiatus < 1336119989 951087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nonsense < 1336119991 808486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the best player < 1336119999 815300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how else could you dispense such pure wisdom < 1336120033 477982 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and I haven't even touched my skills < 1336120039 983418 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is crazy < 1336120049 836578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: for example < 1336120054 617965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: has anyone else made their player into a flashing square < 1336120092 556096 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don';t think so < 1336120110 506102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: exactly < 1336120140 613876 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a ring of see invisible < 1336120145 35611 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is great news < 1336120152 321026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :closest would probably be xomscumming (ragdoll), who uses a flashing M < 1336120186 237710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know them because they died to a butterfly < 1336120190 37974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i asked sequell) < 1336120197 960922 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, I was around for that < 1336120207 533298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it intentional < 1336120210 16056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336120218 651971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it less cool < 1336120220 70869 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a "dying to things without attacks" party < 1336120221 844323 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-227-19.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336120235 703197 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like fungi and toadstools and plants and bushes and butterflies < 1336120246 85121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1336120259 293013 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Level 4 < 1336120344 760372 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a scroll with very specific requirements for use? I've used this one near enemies and walls, but it doesn't seem to do anything < 1336120355 841289 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, curse jewelry < 1336120357 385159 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1336120375 386463 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cursed ring of see invisible :D < 1336120399 604719 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-112-137.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336120470 49661 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you tried smart kobold yet < 1336120473 486119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no should i < 1336120476 494981 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336120480 566652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now? < 1336120482 720634 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1336120483 702991 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say to termcast it but < 1336120486 544716 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336120491 533563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could < 1336120493 95627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stream it < 1336120494 686310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know of a < 1336120501 307015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not-completely-terrible thing for that < 1336120503 605415 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhh < 1336120506 670579 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on your standards < 1336120511 735592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :low < 1336120515 279355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well high but < 1336120517 49232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't expect much < 1336120524 392557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use justin.tv because it's the first thing i found a hacky shell script thingy to stream with < 1336120532 71165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by hacky shell script thingy i mean < 1336120543 417706 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you were watching a second ago, you'd have shit yourself with rage at my survival < 1336120545 898384 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what to pass to ffmpeg to make it do streamy < 1336120563 714324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the os x thing is still a problem < 1336120567 658840 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out ogak is better once you know you can pray over corpses < 1336120572 468707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try building it < 1336120639 889195 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Level 5 < 1336120656 881393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1336120703 551490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now download libtcod1.5.0 and install into ../lib. You can copy the < 1336120703 765604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :version in ../../linux/lib to ../lib to get this effect. < 1336120705 448778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uugh < 1336120708 246554 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336120719 199307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let me try wine < 1336120777 784560 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this ogak is crazy < 1336120784 680937 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just met two ogres in a row and suffered no problems whatsoever < 1336120786 58469 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1336120789 454567 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just suddenly...good??? < 1336120811 571043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im compiling wine < 1336120820 321963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :failing that i'll reboot i think i have a disused linux partition on here < 1336120907 935291 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1336120919 195573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: Clang currently miscompiles some parts of Wine. If you have gcc, you < 1336120919 407280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can get a more stable build with: < 1336120919 425585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : brew install wine --use-gcc < 1336120920 860952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1336120981 632155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i need squarelos entertainment for all this effort < 1336120989 680010 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336121215 384913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what happened < 1336121218 290219 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad < 1336121236 716011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336121293 458321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Srg < 1336121301 379635 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't notice the water mocasine < 1336121431 520060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is smart kobold really hard to play :( < 1336121459 906014 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what you mean hard, play < 1336121465 579013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336121546 216979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god this build is so slow < 1336121548 780279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336121551 574006 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Fri May 4 01:52:29 2012 < 1336121555 519639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy 01:52:59 < 1336121577 733085 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why couldn't you just get libtcod is there no mac libtcod or something < 1336121618 883363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i could i just < 1336121622 262721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gave up after seeing it's not in homebrew < 1336121628 896234 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336121666 577567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i just compile it myself < 1336121667 671951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill try it < 1336121683 478354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the source < 1336121796 328638 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://doryen.eptalys.net/libtcod/ oh no wheres the sourc < 1336121810 300937 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh theres "svn" oh it's 404 < 1336121831 884306 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/jice/libtcod sourc < 1336121838 983021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i found that < 1336121879 736975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i build libtcod < 1336121888 490075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's cmake crap and stuff here < 1336121889 26382 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue < 1336121893 265349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuugh < 1336121894 864775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336121896 990353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wine installed < 1336121897 884535 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive only ever just used the binarys < 1336121898 233945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme try this < 1336121900 359309 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336121959 568097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey < 1336121960 495458 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336121962 129651 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :found a thing < 1336121985 26468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :An application has requested X11 to change the resolution of your display. X11 will restore the display to its previous state when the requesting application requests to return to the previous state. Alternatively, you can use the ⌥⌘A key sequence to force X11 to return to the previous state. < 1336121985 555890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336122004 992192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: go on < 1336122020 808147 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can make my language change every turn i think < 1336122029 569057 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to do it < 1336122030 102853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336122030 632801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :howso < 1336122038 482756 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i discovered: crawl.setopt < 1336122043 56864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1336122043 979972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: make it < 1336122046 172627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :change charset every turn < 1336122048 596678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the walls flahs < 1336122049 834874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*flash < 1336122132 874075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION installs cmake oops < 1336122165 99854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336122211 117214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336122294 219956 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works < 1336122294 542589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: its not work < 1336122296 134225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh does it < 1336122297 590520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so it does < 1336122305 756950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should make it never choose the same one twice in a row < 1336122313 412835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you didn't do the charset thing :'( (creibriadoses) < 1336122316 956229 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336122330 871615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wait i have a better idea < 1336122339 270452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: make the layout of the stats display change every turn < 1336122354 509909 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to make the hud panel change colours < 1336122424 151104 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow im going to make so many of my options random < 1336122426 644024 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going to be great < 1336122473 697605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just change a random option randomly each tur < 1336122474 578656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*turn < 1336122482 173156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336122482 756455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336122502 57503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: change whether the messages are on top or bottom randomly every 50 turns or so < 1336122510 285175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaahgh yesss < 1336122602 227410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :../dircontrol.h:41: error: ‘NAME_MAX’ was not declared in this scope < 1336122602 583876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1336122628 738045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :../firefly.cpp:65: error: ‘class TCODConsole’ has no member named ‘setBack’ < 1336122629 445628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1336122639 388704 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336122652 25628 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the first time I've been highlighted because of a file name, I think < 1336122703 959177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im maybe going to reboot into os x; does the justintv shell script you found support streaming a single window < 1336122739 161195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :( but if you make the streamy portion small and put your window in the top right of your screen it "works just fine" < 1336122754 77178 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably there are better shell scripts but i just haven't needed one < 1336122754 742224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uugh < 1336122757 577995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's annoying because < 1336122762 15886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to tab to irc < 1336122765 927975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll keep hacking this source < 1336122889 927369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1336122891 173969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this tcod shit < 1336122893 829303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is so shitty < 1336122898 686928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stable release < 1336122900 983662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has no build system < 1336122902 578267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hg stuff < 1336122903 289739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work < 1336122919 13010 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the binarys do they not work?? < 1336122968 907302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://doryen.eptalys.net/libtcod/download/ < 1336122971 383148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you see an os x binary here < 1336122978 435970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whoa there is < 1336122978 967400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336122981 628365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's of too old a version < 1336122999 994252 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a beta release < 1336123002 115543 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"beta" < 1336123007 645244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :smart kobold wants 1.5.0 < 1336123022 555384 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hows wine < 1336123028 834210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just crashed < 1336123033 680674 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=/ < 1336123036 788081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh do i have a virtual machine thing on here < 1336123040 862195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1336123052 264245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill try upgrading x11 < 1336123217 10272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ugh this stuff looks like a pain < 1336123219 530414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's your script < 1336123224 715914 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what script < 1336123230 960050 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336123232 198712 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing < 1336123310 283831 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where i found it was http://michaelchinen.com/2011/06/27/justin-tv-streaming-in-linux/ but searching for justin tv ffmpeg returns a lot more results which might be better < 1336123330 880498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10050988/haskell-removes-all-occurrences-of-a-given-value-from-within-a-list-of-lists < 1336123333 740776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll down to the last answer :D < 1336123340 78600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's what i found too < 1336123403 14701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this deleted one < 1336123403 366978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1336123405 315665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to your class mate I seem to have proof you are cheating on my coursework! Mr Badr expect 0% for your Haskell coursework and we may even remove the marks already attained in your previous coursework. Furthermore this username will be sent to other all the lectures who will check for plagiarism in for their coursework. You have been warned and have been told several times that you must not do this and their will be a severe pena < 1336123406 199714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lty! Your autumn modules will be reviewed too! < 1336123408 161903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please Contact the your tutor who will give you advice on this situation. < 1336123410 118769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1336123615 670351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how did your configuration go < 1336123619 385518 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336123621 693745 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :configuration?? < 1336123637 518860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl < 1336123639 488452 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336123640 206687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1336123642 319731 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still going < 1336123949 158189 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow changing status caption colour each turn makes it so they each get a different colour that applies when they're updated < 1336123998 65184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to se < 1336124000 717326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*see < 1336124015 584219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1336124020 513353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite good enough yet though < 1336124027 990709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right i've only just started < 1336124088 402640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: No available formula for zenity < 1336124088 790562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1336124166 977499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: might have smart kobold running soon < 1336124177 308246 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesss!! < 1336124322 171612 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else to randomis hm < 1336124362 779587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unhandled exception: unimplemented function msvcp80.dll.??0?$basic_ifstream@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@@std@@QAE@PBDHH@Z called in 32-bit code (0x7b82756c). < 1336124363 309664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1336124444 298895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ill try linux < 1336124455 820434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336124545 184987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336124550 273266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh this installation is disused < 1336124551 175393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1336124567 858512 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helo < 1336124630 3831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./kobold_bin: error while loading shared libraries: libtcod.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory < 1336124633 841430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget what this error means < 1336124683 122003 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :libtcod.so is in ../lib < 1336124687 103104 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336124691 255088 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336124693 557606 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere in there < 1336124694 894197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but < 1336124697 681898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i copied it < 1336124697 853753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336124708 165568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm < 1336124715 251452 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you copy it onto your loadpath < 1336124721 143973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. works :p < 1336124858 544209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336124861 231038 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336124868 103770 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it ~sort~of~works~ < 1336124878 842472 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i start it and little lines of blue light dance at the top of the screen < 1336124880 426397 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the music starts < 1336124881 927746 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they keep dancinga < 1336124884 917616 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dancing < 1336124886 446631 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing else happens < 1336124888 228069 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's fullscreen < 1336124897 18840 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfollscren it < 1336124899 701437 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1336124903 597500 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a thing < 1336124908 150847 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336124922 364845 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you start it < 1336124933 201868 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thers a togl full screen option < 1336124935 727733 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336124937 502321 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't understand < 1336124943 652786 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not show anything on my screen apart from the tiny lines of light at the top < 1336124968 459295 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336124972 532182 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that happen < 1336124986 546343 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check my crystal ball. < 1336125026 380057 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how to force sdl to be windowed < 1336125032 722422 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively < 1336125039 84162 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try wineing it < 1336125040 110626 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what exact keystrokes do i need from it starting to get it windowed < 1336125042 130988 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i could do it blind < 1336125051 226798 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it doesn't work in wine, i tried on os x < 1336125056 147136 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was an error with an unimplemented function < 1336125056 505657 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336125080 77670 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjjjjjj < 1336125123 639120 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted < 1336125129 345778 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long do you have to wait before starting it for that to work < 1336125131 279678 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :loading time and stuff < 1336125139 884040 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does the music take a while to start for you too < 1336125150 386138 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the music happens once you start playing the game < 1336125166 954333 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it suddenly started working < 1336125177 840088 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit small windowed :( < 1336125182 449736 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336125187 325382 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll lower my resolutionle < 1336125189 80286 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*resolution < 1336125190 733777 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :less to stream too < 1336125243 867719 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: link script again? < 1336125334 662242 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://michaelchinen.com/2011/06/27/justin-tv-streaming-in-linux/ i had to change it a bit to get it working but < 1336125342 271307 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i have your copy < 1336125343 592466 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive done enough < 1336125344 613698 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing < 1336125345 848198 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one day < 1336125401 205310 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i changed the qual line to < 1336125405 327484 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUAL="ipod320" # one of the many FFMPEG preset < 1336125415 560318 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since thats a ffmpeg preset for me and "fast" is not < 1336125422 744299 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i changed the ffmpeg invokation to < 1336125426 324863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffmpeg -f x11grab -s "$INRES" -r "$FPS" -i :0.0 -f alsa -ac 2 -i hw:0,0 -vol 4096 -vcodec libx264 -vpre "$QUAL" -s "$OUTRES" -acodec libmp3lame -ar 11025 -ab 128k -threads 0 -f flv "rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/$STREAM_KEY flashver=FMLE/3.0\20(compatible;\20FMSc/1.0)" < 1336125434 455272 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of i forget why < 1336125444 702730 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right uh < 1336125451 83910 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thaaaaaaaats a bit broken i think < 1336125460 418209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's one part that I should have changed < 1336125461 835000 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't < 1336125465 485510 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and II keep forgetting to < 1336125484 253965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the -vol thing i think it is < 1336125504 133434 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im like 3 seconds away from giving up on this and never playing smart kobold < 1336125508 217541 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i've gotten reports of my streams have hilaribad clippy audio < 1336125512 807654 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336125528 224601 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least play smart kobold, even if you don't stream it < 1336125532 983692 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bad will the quality be at 960x600 anyway < 1336125538 268951 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt you'll be able to see the individual tiles < 1336125540 63566 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1336125572 18008 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what target fps??? < 1336125572 942300 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i use < 1336125583 500592 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just 20 for that < 1336125600 286214 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i havent messed with it) < 1336125600 818751 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the vol thing < 1336125611 355072 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 4096 < 1336125611 373310 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its one of the ffmepg flags < 1336125613 225495 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i change that to < 1336125616 352341 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1336125619 142697 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"havent mesed" < 1336125632 295807 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im fine with awful clippy audio it's like home to me < 1336125656 888045 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please open up http://www.justin.tv/ehird < 1336125682 793028 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :opend < 1336125684 367680 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[rtmp @ 0x138d660] Server error: Authentication Failed. < 1336125684 973029 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336125688 469308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336125694 446330 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you put your stream key in the stream key thing < 1336125703 980039 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336125717 152950 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know whats wronge :( < 1336125736 570690 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i won't be looking at the < 1336125737 702889 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chat thing < 1336125741 698588 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~irc~ < 1336125745 549329 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wont be using it < 1336125799 964772 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://community.justin.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=7479 < 1336125803 901232 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1336125804 621066 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long & short of it is simple - FFMpeg is NOT intended for streaming stuff on the Internet. Never was. It's only intended for playing stuff back locally. < 1336125804 766105 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try not using FFMpeg. You'll be amazed at what will happen..... < 1336125804 784432 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheers < 1336125805 170120 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1336125807 312217 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks a lot buddy < 1336125848 471023 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336125852 480511 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to cut off the flashver apparently?? < 1336125861 475294 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works < 1336125864 101100 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: am i broadcasting < 1336125872 290005 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your thing is flashing < 1336125879 295201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not quite baordcasting yet < 1336125884 793334 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[libx264 @ 0x1690400] broken ffmpeg default settings detected < 1336125884 981642 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[libx264 @ 0x1690400] use an encoding preset (e.g. -vpre medium) < 1336125885 38 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[libx264 @ 0x1690400] preset usage: -vpre -vpre < 1336125885 271 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[libx264 @ 0x1690400] speed presets are listed in x264 --help < 1336125885 42940 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[libx264 @ 0x1690400] profile is optional; x264 defaults to high < 1336125887 753643 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like it tried broadcasting but didnt quite make it < 1336125895 965749 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1336125897 287640 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's working < 1336125899 154287 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast is a preset for me < 1336125899 591761 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336125900 943281 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ipod320 isn't < 1336125903 180400 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336125903 330548 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you see me < 1336125907 599367 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's black < 1336125914 237153 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure < 1336125915 108218 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a start" < 1336125918 878413 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll refresh < 1336125929 732177 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refreshed and it's still black < 1336125934 444621 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me test < 1336125936 709264 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336125939 13740 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there it goes? < 1336125944 858590 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1336125952 480547 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work now? < 1336125955 578747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait no < 1336125958 456939 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1336125959 835398 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it went offline and showed a pic < 1336125964 476964 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its offline now < 1336125975 549252 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what pic? my computer or just < 1336125976 454086 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oops" < 1336125976 838046 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"any pice" < 1336125982 133471 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your computr < 1336125982 559605 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the bitrate is too high < 1336125984 370029 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336125994 137703 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll lower the audio bitrate < 1336126008 182444 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :live again < 1336126009 133776 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336126011 528277 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :black < 1336126019 684394 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"drop=18" < 1336126022 323505 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps that has something to do with it < 1336126029 18038 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"drop=19" < 1336126048 240779 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it dropping all of your frams < 1336126048 315597 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try a lower fps < 1336126058 433478 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok try now < 1336126058 761556 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1336126059 392725 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 fps < 1336126061 556841 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything can manage 8 fps < 1336126072 211217 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop=9 lol < 1336126075 288906 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still blakce < 1336126095 251088 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever game you were playing before, i'm pretty sure ffmpeg is a worse game < 1336126140 458511 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme try and watch my own < 1336126155 904328 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ad < 1336126156 894220 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr8 < 1336126168 129130 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't realize crawl had audio < 1336126174 503024 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1336126177 909844 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa. < 1336126181 192625 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does if you make it < 1336126201 160448 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys always take things to the next level < 1336126201 335017 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336126210 404110 :cheater!~cheater@g230222243.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336126252 272320 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336126260 957562 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1336126294 481377 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336126324 21780 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can VLC do audio < 1336126330 42749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue < 1336126382 896499 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can play audio files. i dunno anything about streaming thouhg < 1336126407 569333 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe it's working now?? < 1336126419 989965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its; black < 1336126428 681008 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336126432 679630 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bitrate is like 273 kb/s < 1336126436 841366 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my upload is like < 1336126438 89928 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than that < 1336126479 678586 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: now??? < 1336126480 183318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336126569 391197 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about now i set the resolution to something ridiculously low < 1336126581 181979 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it looks on < 1336126591 87431 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's < 1336126594 125525 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :going alright < 1336126595 685112 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be a hideously distorted view of my screen < 1336126598 773622 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshot < 1336126602 3108 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can < 1336126604 839318 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjust the resolution and stuff < 1336126626 706588 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fucking great, I have aura over half my field of vision. < 1336126626 899219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336126627 723085 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was a request for a screenshot) < 1336126648 981526 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and my keyboard has forgotten that it's a UK one. < 1336126649 537453 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im screnshot < 1336126656 665743 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i too am screnshot < 1336126689 170407 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a quality bitrate < 1336126691 190927 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aura as in that stuff i see sometimes when i get low blood sugar < 1336126698 810618 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or aura as in a video game effect :P < 1336126700 261039 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/notsobad.png < 1336126715 580285 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the answer isnt important to me < 1336126716 889266 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha nice it just < 1336126719 857900 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chopped off part of my screen < 1336126720 185346 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336126733 561576 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme try and start the game < 1336126735 486674 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see how terrible it looks < 1336126769 236406 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it look & what's the fps like < 1336126796 782213 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fps is good enough and i can see it "good enough" < 1336126804 22707 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the AUDIOE < 1336126811 517720 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works < 1336126819 8706 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it clip < 1336126846 117011 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's on the quiet side and only in my right ear phone < 1336126848 526039 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill tweak the settings slightly just to make them less completely terrible < 1336126971 337169 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: restarted < 1336126985 215649 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ites black < 1336126989 874899 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it a minute to starte < 1336126995 389331 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336126999 237493 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can lower the bitrate if it doesn't < 1336127022 464716 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it < 1336127023 15328 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stopped < 1336127027 807301 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: try now < 1336127035 605662 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blak < 1336127044 958271 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :another ten seconds < 1336127055 76963 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blaak < 1336127059 908543 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine < 1336127102 962630 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going < 1336127110 698386 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot < 1336127116 373069 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshot? < 1336127137 459377 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also can you toggle fullscreen ingame < 1336127153 763843 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if so i'll probably do that because of < 1336127161 67849 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~the quality issues~ < 1336127165 538558 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the ~quality < 1336127186 914306 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/takeii.png < 1336127188 59150 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336127189 699936 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Fri May 4 03:26:28 2012 < 1336127191 59619 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ $// < 1336127200 465332 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it's worse somehow < 1336127200 801781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can togole with escap menu i think < 1336127207 524001 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme try that < 1336127240 791382 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that go < 1336127267 242449 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just like nonfullscreeen except in the upper lefthand corner < 1336127277 649763 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no biggening < 1336127280 524406 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or anything like that < 1336127289 651951 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336127293 468866 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1336127297 316634 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just leave it unfullscreened then < 1336127297 334014 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you able to like < 1336127298 933027 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the text < 1336127304 629499 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it < 1336127307 808198 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good enough < 1336127314 270896 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, brb one second and then let's get started < 1336127317 846861 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336127327 904990 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you're in charge of linking Phantom_Hoover to the stream < 1336127334 522952 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336127343 142299 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.justin.tv/ehird < 1336127370 23556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i see is < 1336127370 492349 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lag < 1336127379 958511 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots < 1336127380 157386 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres lots of that < 1336127380 875790 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of lg < 1336127383 633034 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ｉ　ＡＭ　ＯＮ　ＴＥＬＥＶＩＳＩＯＮ < 1336127383 920214 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lag howso < 1336127384 693552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too < 1336127391 125091 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok who's < 1336127391 908497 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ready < 1336127392 204894 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :way < 1336127392 939613 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336127395 421207 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme up the font size on this irc < 1336127397 821185 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I *still* haven't said anything beyond 'oh' in the stream. < 1336127399 113593 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1336127403 393063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just now I did. < 1336127411 908970 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you can all see stuff < 1336127415 637392 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully < 1336127419 374203 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1336127419 452868 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok is everybody sitting comfortably < 1336127425 651263 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't laagged to this side yet < 1336127429 278728 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there it goes < 1336127429 402920 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336127431 254240 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how laggy is it exactly < 1336127439 219437 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty laggy < 1336127441 718639 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's ok < 1336127446 355305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello mum! < 1336127464 443757 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here we go!!! < 1336127474 163025 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you'll have to remind me of the keys as i go < 1336127499 4003 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the keys are pretty simple < 1336127503 732486 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What’s that game? < 1336127507 497688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is thi9s crawl < 1336127507 691172 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smart kobold < 1336127511 919551 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :smart kobold < 1336127516 234998 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats music < 1336127521 577065 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smart kobold < 1336127549 914731 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant read < 1336127550 435069 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words < 1336127553 271006 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whAT < 1336127563 267219 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i eat corpses < 1336127572 258344 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1336127613 210401 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no clue what the fuck is going on < 1336127620 396996 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's my hp < 1336127627 654157 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you should search a lot but searching is pretty tolerable since it shows you where yous earch and searching is guaranteed to find traps and then the treaps are remove after searching < 1336127631 512420 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blue stuff is your hp < 1336127639 333917 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336127641 240077 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1336127643 771122 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stupidest hp display i've ever seen < 1336127668 322143 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336127677 561999 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blue tinkly stuff is hp < 1336127683 1180 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336127694 15287 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336127698 235144 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you lose hp it turns brown and falls < 1336127703 697802 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336127712 640958 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellitt if you press s multiple times your search radius grows < 1336127715 640913 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s about 45 seconds of lag. < 1336127719 991096 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is this game < 1336127724 929280 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smart kobold < 1336127728 763135 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you responding to all my old searches < 1336127732 997713 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lag is < 1336127733 843209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336127735 20530 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not tenable < 1336127738 270587 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude smart kobolds make < 1336127738 329617 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1336127739 613787 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sense < 1336127742 735173 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to tweak the settings < 1336127757 193770 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit the bitrate went up!! < 1336127758 887693 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look im just going to < 1336127760 65540 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lower the fps < 1336127781 275688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will 2fps make it unlaged < 1336127784 289740 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried 5 < 1336127792 15216 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i'll try 3 < 1336127806 81654 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How crappy is your upstream bandwidth? < 1336127809 284531 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: really crappy < 1336127815 148589 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 60 Kio/s max crappy < 1336127818 410450 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how is it now < 1336127834 951229 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god it really doesn't feel like the future over here < 1336127839 595455 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: < 1336127841 568028 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You’re using H.264, right? < 1336127844 950877 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but < 1336127847 420103 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :approx. as crappy? < 1336127851 27197 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: seriously? < 1336127851 399992 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1336127874 959724 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336127879 974682 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crappier now that the fps is lower < 1336127885 592029 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no less laggy? < 1336127895 709066 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1336127896 670218 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1336127898 860918 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look up presets for me < 1336127901 996700 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :find one crappier than "fast" < 1336127948 683784 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should be in your PREFIX/share/ffmpeg directory < 1336127962 389164 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336127965 185415 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one's crappier < 1336127970 607458 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know < 1336127983 930564 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could find your copy of fast and make a copy of it with crappier everywher < 1336128009 206758 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if ultrafast is better or worse < 1336128021 317394 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it < 1336128029 370606 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not up yet < 1336128058 234802 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: still not up? < 1336128060 539679 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the eff are you doing??? < 1336128065 161706 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336128067 540301 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336128075 730728 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its "off line": < 1336128125 412747 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im < 1336128126 833965 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying another thing < 1336128140 216303 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that made it worse < 1336128140 439176 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there it goes < 1336128143 980486 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"upe" < 1336128145 959151 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how laggy now < 1336128149 508472 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336128149 768601 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think probably more < 1336128153 944235 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can probably fix that < 1336128171 27896 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about a while laggy < 1336128174 198937 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr8 < 1336128218 377335 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is kind of hopeless < 1336128233 378426 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :last resort < 1336128235 572761 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive lowered my resolution < 1336128300 883907 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there is < 1336128305 939446 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally no way the quality can get shittier < 1336128309 707320 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if this is laggy < 1336128310 275212 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tough < 1336128314 113577 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there is < 1336128316 234008 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its black < 1336128325 643205 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1336128326 253324 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stopped < 1336128329 160578 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336128330 651889 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try that again < 1336128348 839548 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there it goes < 1336128387 248323 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it doing < 1336128419 332812 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lagged about 30s < 1336128427 333031 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336128431 930505 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cancelled it < 1336128434 138120 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck it < 1336128439 800062 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im putting it back on and playing it deal with it < 1336128447 550089 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im fine w lag < 1336128469 678462 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it working < 1336128479 86657 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are Phantom_Hoover and ion watching < 1336128484 71743 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blacke < 1336128484 308649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo < 1336128486 361218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336128489 497147 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: watch < 1336128495 193014 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: still? < 1336128498 465056 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of, but i’m about to fall assleap. < 1336128501 504733 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it dead < 1336128510 606385 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now? try refreshing < 1336128526 440470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it goe < 1336128575 714962 :NihilistDandy!~ND@stu-137-155-171-184.champlain.edu QUIT :Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] < 1336128612 872294 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i really forget parts of the level as i go < 1336128617 261626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336128619 976920 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1336128620 832674 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure < 1336128624 885264 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1336128631 608359 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you "forget" them in a sense but < 1336128638 456719 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sense is that other parts of the level go over them < 1336128642 690885 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a jefflaitism < 1336128673 37236 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'll end up forgetting things when you overwrite them < 1336128684 246667 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with knowledge of your current z-positioning < 1336128687 256193 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336128687 960315 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from < 1336128688 666943 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/e < 1336128689 6221 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remembering the level is available as DLC for just $19.99 < 1336128704 601048 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh looks like you died < 1336128714 607910 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game is difficult < 1336128747 380899 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all jeff lait games this difficult < 1336128754 683084 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1336128766 850337 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm blanking on most of them < 1336128778 135929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sword in hand is pretty difficult but not smart kobold difficult < 1336128785 484291 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never really tried powder or jacob's matrix < 1336128786 920907 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhh < 1336128790 705545 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blanking on the rest < 1336128874 952680 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not going to let me chokepoint them are they < 1336128883 219267 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're smart kobold < 1336128884 637230 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336128886 186159 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336128927 228767 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game is impossible < 1336128928 991094 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone won < 1336128934 383887 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1336128951 581316 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you may have figured out, smart kobold is less of a game than an experience < 1336128963 312943 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a work of art < 1336129020 372403 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't even killed by smart kobold that time < 1336129024 433100 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was killed by Smart Kobold < 1336129036 343879 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because you walked through all those traps < 1336129052 78623 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's so boring to search all the time!!!! < 1336129059 956482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hit keys faster < 1336129070 938605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also one thing you can do is use m to explore the levl < 1336129084 117524 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what does that < 1336129084 428400 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do < 1336129084 808782 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its nice to see it before you alert all the kobolds < 1336129087 744091 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1336129090 859768 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1336129091 945377 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also what they do when you alert them < 1336129093 58118 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336129103 738204 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m and then hjklyubn to look around < 1336129113 960049 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i get to keep the memory < 1336129137 574456 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on if you went over yourself < 1336129150 419773 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if you get to keep it at all actually < 1336129158 967207 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that jefflaitism is < 1336129161 364547 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really annoying and confusing < 1336129182 925732 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ll continue to stream the video through the brain implant while sleeping. Goode nyghte. < 1336129192 677168 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had one of those < 1336129198 242617 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: rip < 1336129265 429191 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, will do. < 1336129269 987137 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i correct that to "really really annoying and confusing" < 1336129331 755775 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget if terrified baby kobolds become normal kobolds when they drop their pacifiers or not < 1336129376 36271 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im lost < 1336129418 881914 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh, i see what you mean by z-level < 1336129422 652522 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the level actually overlaps < 1336129428 461877 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336129435 805240 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336129449 466236 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game is impossible < 1336129455 330052 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly < 1336129461 916035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've sure never won iut < 1336129462 795594 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1336129464 831015 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will i derive any more enjoyment out of < 1336129466 912123 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuing < 1336129470 416796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue < 1336129487 327198 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :strike that "more" actually < 1336129497 417506 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue < 1336129508 599536 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no clue" - monqy, 2012 < 1336129567 86537 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i give up < 1336129586 41051 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336129591 997889 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creibriadoses < 1336129599 440522 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'[ < 1336129613 318045 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mouth went angular all of a sudden < 1336129619 979175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'< < 1336129624 625613 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336129629 575967 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'- < 1336129633 851949 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,, < 1336129641 717823 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::' < 1336129645 273667 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1336129722 898930 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336129845 704248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336129894 963124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336130051 900247 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helo < 1336130117 664456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wow that audio quality was good wasn't it < 1336130131 929350 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336130133 880742 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant remembr < 1336130704 712821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1336130708 456080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :smart kobold is an evil game < 1336131218 95984 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1336131380 845897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell monqy Yes, Smart Kobold is winnable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfS6OwitNoM < 1336131380 977360 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336131924 97896 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336133144 486961 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336133242 183689 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336138451 273334 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1336138459 868329 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336138459 886503 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Client Quit < 1336138685 60015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336141372 908029 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336143710 416266 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336143721 989563 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome esolang_1234 < 1336143725 212160 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1336143756 926552 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know :). I've read the wiki for a while now, but this is the first time on the chat. < 1336143856 700766 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PART :#esoteric < 1336144273 75443 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133D2A.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336146038 791325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336148141 850722 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1336149084 184744 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336149509 882537 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@gwfw1-nat.booyahcorp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336151308 94918 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-227-19.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1336151333 915769 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-227-19.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336154779 523307 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336155179 811504 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-227-19.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336155197 28215 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-140-248.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336155684 210111 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336155708 681331 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336155868 37327 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336155987 127223 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-229-222.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336156003 197267 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-140-248.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336156130 586903 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1336156278 86497 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-229-222.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1336156293 194510 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-229-222.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336158184 287510 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's queit... < 1336158431 644978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336158498 950557 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quiet < 1336158510 731365 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello zzo38, fungot < 1336158512 130009 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: has anyone else read srfi-74 yet?) extra-www compliant. you can't rush these kind of limitations would be in the form of regions away from the swarm all the effects < 1336158518 845721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336158524 796243 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quiet < 1336158586 264554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how commonly the Show, Bounded, and Enum classes are used in Haskell for the purpose I am using them for in this WizardCard parser program with the BuiltinKeyword datatype. < 1336158601 672263 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you using them < 1336158640 877559 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data BuiltinKeyword = KW_convert | KW_enum | KW_fail | KW_if | KW_macro | KW_section | KW_success deriving (Eq, Bounded, Enum, Show); builtins :: Map String Word32; builtins = M.fromList $ zip (drop 3 . show <$> [minBound..maxBound :: BuiltinKeyword]) [0..]; < 1336158762 402624 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does <$> have a lower precedence than .? < 1336158768 265435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I could probably use fromDistinctAscList since the data is already sorted < 1336158804 73665 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, how busy are you at the moment? < 1336158835 482378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Not much. If you have something to tell to me then please do, regardless of how busy I am; if I cannot do so at the moment I say so. < 1336158863 31776 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if you could teach me category theory, or at leat introduce me to it < 1336158872 445336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: The precedence is correct in that code. It does work. < 1336158875 971997 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or tell me what I need to know first? < 1336158957 552325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: There are articles in Wikipedia. But in general: A category consists of a collection of objects, and a collection of morphisms, each morphism having an input and output object, such that there is an identity morphism of each object, and a composition operation which if you have a morphism (f : a -> b) and (g : b -> c) then you can compose them (g . f : a -> c). < 1336158979 536839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Composition is associative and has the identity morphisms of the objects as identity leaving the other side unchanged. < 1336159001 532553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is sort of like a monoid except that you need to indicate the object on each side. < 1336159020 495466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this good to you so far? < 1336159035 583373 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let it sink in < 1336159067 371067 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can there be multiple morphisms with the same input/output objects? < 1336159072 681638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Yes. < 1336159076 13296 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1336159119 659178 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I think I know what's going on < 1336159203 334847 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few examples: * The category of sets. Objects are sets, and morphisms are functions having elements of those sets as the inputs and outputs. * Any monoid can be made a category with a single object. * Any category has a dual where the input/output are reversed and composition is reversed. * Any directed graph makes a category, where objects are the nodes and morphisms are the ways to walk from one node to another. < 1336159392 594585 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1336159401 609382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there are functors, monads, and so on < 1336159493 708387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A functor is a way converting objects and morphisms from one category to another. I will use (T x) to represent the object in the new category corresponding to (x) in the old category, and (fmap f) to represent the morphism in the new category corresponding to the morphism (f) in the old category. < 1336159516 773363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A functor must satisfy the laws: fmap id = id and fmap f . fmap g = fmap (f . g) (same as in Haskell). < 1336159607 403933 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that a morphism from (x) to (y) in first category becomes morphism from (T x) to (T y) in second category. It may be the same category in both cases in which case it is called endofunctor. (The Functor class in Haskell is for endofunctors on the (->) category.) < 1336159659 686023 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by the (->) category? < 1336159690 668086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the (->) category I mean the main category of Haskell; the category with types as objects and functions as morphisms. (In Haskell, categories can be identified using the type for their morphisms.) < 1336159699 940419 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1336159882 234009 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monad on some category is an endofunctor on that category with two additional operations eta (or return) and mu (or join), with eta :: (x -> T x) for any object x and mu :: (T (T x) -> T x) for any object x; these must also satisfy certain laws. For example the identity monad; the endofunctor converts all objects and morphisms to themself, and eta and mu are both identity morphisms (this works with any category). < 1336159969 28064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also, morphisms which can be inverse of another; if f is inverse of g then f . g = g . f = id (possibly two different identity morphisms if they are different objects). And then, final objects, which means for each object x, there is exactly one morphism from x to the final object. < 1336160005 536355 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can actually do a lot of things with category theory; you may be able to figure out some of these things by yourself, too. < 1336160080 974535 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1336160157 950059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition, the eta/mu operations of a monad are what are called "natural transformations"; Wikipedia has diagrams to explain what a natural transformation is. < 1336160283 220872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there may be some other people on here who know a few things about category theory, too. < 1336160886 38303 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-229-222.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336161150 407296 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336161151 54745 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear < 1336161151 651967 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1336161153 583860 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, < 1336161155 897150 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :explaining < 1336161157 548708 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads < 1336161158 963372 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to < 1336161161 204594 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb < 1336161180 452993 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336161181 17850 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear < 1336161181 763667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1336161183 665250 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: < 1336161186 543238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :posting < 1336161187 235658 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1336161188 471806 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :word < 1336161190 924885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :per < 1336161193 480393 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :line < 1336161203 371452 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not any more. < 1336161409 22093 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would T (T x) be an an object in a category of categories? < 1336161433 673880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: No, T (T x) is an object in the same category as the base category, because T is an endofunctor. < 1336161602 647861 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Jesus Christ you *asked* him to do this? < 1336161610 416416 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, < 1336161614 353855 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly < 1336161617 635938 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :went through your head < 1336161636 933694 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, morbid curiosity < 1336161669 573434 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And an endofunctor is a transformation from a category to the same category, right/ < 1336161695 487652 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Yes < 1336161728 557695 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But each object may not end up as the same object? < 1336161739 505144 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, i mean < 1336161746 741244 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get why you'd want to learn cat theory < 1336161748 713813 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336161751 442883 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking zzo?? < 1336161751 648330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Yes, it might not. < 1336161824 705939 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, mu takes a category that has been transformed twice by the same endofunctor back one transformation? < 1336161886 112154 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Perhaps I am not explaining it so well. Ask someone understanding better, or look in Wikipedia. Also notice that these monad laws are the same as Haskell, in case you can understand better that way. < 1336161910 571160 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm perhaps not listening very well either? < 1336161932 30084 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Yes, that too. < 1336161954 675225 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1336161957 362084 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, who would you have asked? < 1336161999 599654 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, probably oerjan, if he's in; otherwise, either Google it, go into #haskell for resources or ask any number of people who aren't zzo. < 1336162014 685345 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Il < 1336162029 383479 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I'm about to run out of battery, so I'll go now < 1336162071 64259 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: BATTERY LEVEL < 1336162504 802312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :about < 1336162670 63606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336162942 884242 :about!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336164180 224357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336164269 7398 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336164280 182363 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336164286 28715 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what time it is? < 1336164292 586181 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S DWARF FORTRESS TIME < 1336164430 463451 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it crashed < 1336164442 610682 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89196.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336164587 944907 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, where stream# < 1336164767 795936 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336164780 488294 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336164789 790865 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133D2A.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1336164938 638283 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1336164938 793557 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1336164943 383051 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1336164949 556279 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarf fortress time for realz? < 1336164975 120204 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 reelz < 1336165172 331362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336165638 430006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336165638 633800 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. 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For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1336167319 906411 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find these bots highly annoying < 1336167327 355958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow Great! < 1336167327 527471 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2G3r4e5a6t7! < 1336167328 595772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1336167328 769737 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ < 1336167329 126687 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |   |   |    `\o/´69    |   |   |    `\o/´69    |   |   | < 1336167329 348350 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /<   >\  |\     |     /|   >\  >\     |     /<  /´\ /< < 1336167329 366908 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                /'\                (_|¯'¯|_) < 1336167329 367085 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              (_| |_)                    < 1336167344 335960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336167347 745969 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :758) Yes, it is true; I don't really like PHP either. < 1336167349 156738 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kray: Feel free to make them less annoying, I'm sure they'll accept patches for fungot < 1336167349 690884 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: are you making it with was just goddamn crappy browser. :p fnord/ fnord, but that < 1336167352 172267 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1336167352 350548 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1336167354 847680 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1336167360 339951 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get hacking < 1336167375 811345 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^RAINBOW DASH < 1336167381 965774 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, it's case sensitive < 1336167387 874531 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow RAINBOW DASH < 1336167388 399209 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2R3A4I5N6B7O8W9 2D3A4S5H < 1336167395 141342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really a rainbow. < 1336167402 551502 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1336167419 79007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ Kray ? esoteric < 1336167420 349508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ Kray ? finland < 1336167422 27002 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kray: This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1336167426 164959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need more wisdom entries to spam newbies with. < 1336167429 890258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have enough. :( < 1336167436 772808 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kray: Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1336167437 138075 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ Kray ? Ngevd < 1336167439 855784 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kray: Qiqj.uTp!1:42rz>G.isYy&.b.`..epgJ.*0"AA.$IlT.a@.jJoF.ۋL..cf.Քm!Yu!@9%4`p$׉6Kʋ.q)..R=tTm8N;.|\..,SORa!.v.3'.x.Ou>.Zl.'%JO6KE`ϔ..3(9}.j.3(+__֦.G]..%j]Db&.;Yb].!.|Ny2=VvcůakI.C].$h.>U.GHU?O\)[v+b?.G;#Lx C.`7cCѢ$ \ }'6E.ea|. < 1336167445 346933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's possible they're here for talking about esolangs < 1336167447 814248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than messing with bots < 1336167457 903328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, then they're in the wrong place! < 1336167464 706618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they aren't < 1336167471 544567 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336167471 952069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pffffft < 1336167478 285482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must be new. < 1336167992 373032 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-226-64.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336168120 673831 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, goodnight < 1336168128 26384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye :) < 1336168164 738015 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: SLEEP < 1336168661 577570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dave4420 when u copy and paste from notepad++ it turns commas to semi. – Mike 9 hours ago < 1336168661 732836 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1336168696 258577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :semicommas! < 1336168772 199120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, my question appeared after reading this tutorial haskell.org/haskellwiki/IO_inside and this paper webcache.googleusercontent.com/…) – user1374768 8 hours ago < 1336168772 217405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1336168772 217607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1336168773 615558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :An IO type defined as RealWorld->(a,RealWorld) is used here, so an action sequence is realized using the fake parameter RealWorld. But IMHO this model is impossible in pure language without outer compiler hacks. So I wonder why this implementation is used, hope that pdf has more clearly explanation. – user1374768 8 hours ago < 1336168783 179947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/IO_inside should be deleted < 1336168809 653020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a whole page devoted to the State RealWorld "model" < 1336168842 938236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you like that ""model""? < 1336168862 199454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because it's false, misleading, and not a model < 1336168870 728264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and many people believe it anyway < 1336168874 134827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1336168879 733124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(backed up by the fact that GHC *looks* like it uses it) < 1336168885 969571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's actually a RealWorld type in GHC, isn't there? < 1336168890 447489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm sort-of wondering what it represents < 1336168895 941663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's State# RealWorld but it doesn't actually exist < 1336168896 825829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1336168897 708378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses < 1336168908 207566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :State# RealWorld -> (# a, State# RealWorld #) < 1336168912 244454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where (##) is an unboxed tuple < 1336168918 548294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the thing is that that function arrow (->) is an *impure* function arrow < 1336168930 84840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and State# RealWorld is a 0-bit type, only used to keep the optimiser from reordering IO actions < 1336168930 499200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-># < 1336168938 221612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because there's a data dependency on every previous result) < 1336168949 215671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right :) < 1336168980 494162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I accept your explanation; it's sort-of State RealWorld except that it's not a Haskell State monad, but a State monad from some other language < 1336168990 741585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but that's not even what the model is < 1336168992 551110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the model is that < 1336169001 243899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :putStrLn :: String -> World -> ((), World) < 1336169013 902336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :putStrLn s world = ((), modify_the_world_to_have_just_printed_s_on_your_screen world) < 1336169022 269855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is beyond absurd < 1336169034 226403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd work for noninteractive IO < 1336169039 250466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but noninteractive IO is kind-of silly < 1336169040 704891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, even if you accept that this works (it... doesn't), you can't do concurrency properly with it < 1336169047 81897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, you extract the input from the world < 1336169063 995156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: agreed, but I mean all-input-at-start-all-output-at-end IO < 1336169069 660999 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the latest Freeman's Mind not available in HD yet >_< < 1336169074 217195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it "does" interactive IO too < 1336169078 660485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "does" I mean doesn't do < 1336169079 892849 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going nutty waiting for YouTube to fix the quality. < 1336169082 202378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's not actually a model < 1336169088 412346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it does not give any denotational semantics whatsoever or anything < 1336169093 556668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just mysticism :P < 1336169172 90014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh yeah, the biggest problem with the model < 1336169176 713854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that it doesn't stop you duplicating World values < 1336169179 363781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or using past World values < 1336169187 472138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to enforce the linearity of Worlds (which is done in languages like Mercury) < 1336169192 421212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell does not have linear types < 1336169192 836245 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336169197 570341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's what the monad is for, isn't it? < 1336169218 488552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this is the point where I realise I thought you understood but you didn't < 1336169221 29820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, nonlinearity is a monad too, there was a seminar on that on Tuesday < 1336169225 737535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I wasn't being serious < 1336169228 443957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously if you treat IO as an abstract black box it works < 1336169232 407195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about that, I was trying to be a bit facetious < 1336169233 64000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole point is that we're trying to /explain/ IO < 1336169237 333902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336169241 419360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means we have to give it a model, which we aren't allowed to hide things about or restrict < 1336169242 834059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok :p < 1336169259 712019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, Poe's Law is bad enough without me trying to make it worse < 1336169408 2729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: democrat! < 1336169686 75373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, I upgraded Esolang; you probably saw < 1336169742 963044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I rarely read it in a web browser < 1336169744 498851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION look < 1336169745 972281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*looks < 1336169755 198432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I posted on the community portal about it < 1336169756 801076 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336169868 422310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336170482 455946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hatfield is a city in Pipestone County, Minnesota, United States. The population was 54 at the 2010 census.[1]" < 1336170675 22407 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay you're back to arguing about how to explain Haskell IO < 1336170676 970762 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i missed this < 1336170687 960755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There wasn't an argument! < 1336170699 123551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quoted someone mislead by it because of a terrible page on the HaskellWiki and expressed sadness that the page exists. < 1336170712 795482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then ais523 asked me what was wrong with State RealWorld because he didn't know. < 1336170802 835736 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should fix the haskellwiki < 1336170845 91609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I can't delete pages on it. :( < 1336170848 321065 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336170855 56495 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could replace it with the empty string < 1336170861 133599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it'd get reverted. < 1336170861 310474 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a link to a better explanation < 1336170891 595573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :People tend to be overprotective about not deleting content on wikis, even if it's fundamentally wrong, and proven to mislead. < 1336170934 275221 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336170938 694737 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this will just remain shitty, forever < 1336170942 61449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep! < 1336170945 433217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Monad. < 1336170980 131531 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the haskell community is too nice to ever figure out how to teach the language properly < 1336171017 391394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would revert that page to its pre-"improvement" state (http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/index.php?title=Monad&oldid=33391) but expects that would get reverted too. < 1336171155 252060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think they should delete things if they are entirely wrong, but I also think that pure wiki deletion should be used. < 1336171190 11163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Meaning the text that used to be on the page becomes not hidden) < 1336171472 375402 :absentswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU NICK :tswett < 1336171555 832306 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ? < 1336171562 919073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: voting for Murphy :P < 1336171574 482498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You and your quaint separation of powers. < 1336171655 120588 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336171661 148487 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's a rule, isn't it? < 1336171670 380723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so? < 1336171700 123178 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was at one point < 1336171713 307957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't need rules like that. < 1336171715 933727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just efficiency. < 1336171728 357208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks democracy has failed Agora. < 1336171736 518156 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1336171737 589059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bring on the Promotor-Assessors and voting golems. < 1336171828 864722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should add in the (>>=||) (>>=|||) (>>=|\/) (>>=\/) for if the function on right takes many parameters and the monad on left is the inside being a tuple with that many parts (I have to use "made up" roman numerals since you cannot use digits here) < 1336171849 313312 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I suggest that the Bakor keep the Roll of golems < 1336171906 203027 :tswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am back. < 1336171911 706831 :tswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will assume that nothing important happened while I was away. < 1336172031 583738 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably Haskell needs some knowledgable person to not only provide a coherent explanation of everything, but directly attack the shitty explanations < 1336172063 919080 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The problem is that you would need different explanations for different purposes too < 1336172086 748611 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336172186 124561 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just feels so good to be here using a real client (even though that client is a piece of shit) < 1336172250 766248 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :will try to get this SASL bullshit working on irssi < 1336172259 114708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: Then use a different client if that one is no good < 1336172262 830625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many < 1336172304 251029 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: this is the only one that supoorts sasl and doesn't want to spy on me on android < 1336172444 301851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know how, you could modify any existing one with open-source to support SASL, I would guess < 1336172478 511611 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't have android dev tools < 1336172515 740081 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't think it would run on my computer < 1336172600 573839 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This phone has better performace than my computer) < 1336172773 222390 :jfischoff_!~jfischoff@70-36-236-167.dsl.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336172880 823756 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this client is at least better that webchat.freenode < 1336172887 376372 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+.net < 1336172939 804139 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@gwfw1-nat.booyahcorp.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336172940 151145 :jfischoff_!~jfischoff@70-36-236-167.dsl.static.sonic.net NICK :jfischoff < 1336173065 992079 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti < 1336174072 627944 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@70-36-236-167.dsl.static.sonic.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336174097 243576 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@gwfw1-nat.booyahcorp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336174491 184699 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336175266 28720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this question is < 1336175266 743193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1336175291 248310 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what question < 1336175297 99520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me save a copy < 1336175308 947378 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336175354 92852 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am writing a lisp interpreter on lambdastack < 1336175361 191867 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336175530 704488 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336175674 892888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZG1rbg/stackoverflow.com-q-10029651.html < 1336175796 210292 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336175831 522750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, Raymond Chen commented on it. < 1336175841 559878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Click the "comments" links on the sides.) < 1336175951 198536 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336175981 849536 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@gwfw1-nat.booyahcorp.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised there is a cloud suggestion but no GPU suggestion. < 1336176044 739155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be silly. GPUs just don't have the kind of elastic scaling you need to enumerate every GUID. < 1336176122 510011 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@gwfw1-nat.booyahcorp.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :facepalm, how could I forget about elastic scaling? < 1336176173 704033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have one of the 50 fastest computers in the world, then you can make the subatomic strings themselves elastic. < 1336176180 442145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have added a new version of "prelude-generalize" Haskell package with (>>=||), (>>=|||), (>>=|\/), (>>=\/), azero, aplus, unnull. < 1336176184 93105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you could have it done by next Tuesday. < 1336176218 79310 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89196.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336176256 137614 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@gwfw1-nat.booyahcorp.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only if that is the way google does it < 1336176274 423275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oblig. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yH_j8-VVLo < 1336176283 549949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no Checkout compiler as far as I know. < 1336176476 241352 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@gwfw1-nat.booyahcorp.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: nice. Just learned that I'm a munctional programmer. < 1336176797 198289 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336176938 561978 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336176958 445602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: < 1336176959 502719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You finish putting on the +2 pair of gloves of the Republic {rPois Str+3 < 1336176959 709624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Dam+6}. < 1336176967 826607 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad < 1336176968 360535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do these offset the loss of my unarmed combat bonus, being a ghoul? < 1336176975 899981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't need the rPois, obviously.) < 1336177086 789671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Better question: What exactly is the bonus? < 1336177095 150240 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dam bonus? < 1336177101 636336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, jeanjacques just told me :P < 1336177162 361121 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336177162 465973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, time to choose myself a god. < 1336177172 993572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's Makhleb or Ashenzari again (comedy option: chei). < 1336177219 49102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: You were advocating sticking with Ashey, right? < 1336177314 72130 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336177319 332536 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to go ash, bind yourself fully < 1336177323 53571 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't feel like it go makhleb < 1336177368 591047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go with Makhleb. I feel like I'll like Ashenzari more when I'm older and wiser and less violent. :p < 1336177379 671586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, you know, HP on killing! < 1336177485 960066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Did you say I could hear a buckler too? < 1336177504 988770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wear < 1336177506 585386 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :always wear a buckler unless you're using a ranged weapon or 1.5-2 handed weapon < 1336177515 427982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yikes, EV 4. < 1336177516 885759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*EV 5 < 1336177561 247218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll switch back and train armour. < 1336177680 220385 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://dpaste.com/hold/743008/ poly.hs is unmodifed the entire time < 1336177706 559439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: hahaha, that "file" output is amazing < 1336177712 366937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well done < 1336177718 208533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why .hs? < 1336177725 479779 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was testing ghc < 1336177738 558518 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its literate haskel < 1336177756 583268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to set the extension to .lhs to use literate Haskell < 1336177782 432333 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: poly.lhc: file not recognized: File format not recognized < 1336177795 797231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: That is because you put .lhc by mistake < 1336177797 175413 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1336177798 745218 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336177801 646944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need .lhs < 1336177818 470526 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :[9656 eitan@radar ~/poly ]%./poly < 1336177818 528334 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Literate Haskell program. < 1336177855 743398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft, literate haskell is cheating ;) < 1336177894 703384 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know < 1336177902 434733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: _Level annotation: magistern's ghost, experienced HOEE < 1336177902 964780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336177909 377 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1336178020 554501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, it gets worse < 1336178024 654666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are... < 1336178026 244819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUTTERFLIES < 1336178039 39626 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1336178053 470309 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :！ < 1336178066 22638 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fuck < 1336178071 907257 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had to climb through the most awful arena level anyway < 1336178073 696737 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ever < 1336178075 646085 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :after getting shafted < 1336178082 48573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Should I be really scared of that ghost? :( < 1336178087 892645 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was full of: orc priests. orc wizards. a hydra. a two-headed ogre. a kobold with a wand of fire. < 1336178088 422410 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1336178096 182371 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336178099 109391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336178102 467398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 hp that's not so bad < 1336178105 784703 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Dunno, i wasn’t paying much attention. < 1336178108 153151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh xl 2 < 1336178108 864682 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I tried using corrupt but it was shit < 1336178111 850039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it "experienced" then < 1336178135 531768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ahaaha look at my game < 1336178139 798436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these butterflies are confusing < 1336178143 349519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ghost's hiding amongst them < 1336178147 583757 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336178215 100794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336178226 411470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if i can get to that upstairs < 1336178226 681998 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :poops < 1336178228 786823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or read fear < 1336178263 193330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336178267 92134 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two orc priests? Nice. < 1336178268 296786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fear worked on everyone but the things i care about < 1336178301 505206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of those situations where i should have read teleportation a year ago < 1336178369 728382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: help :( < 1336178375 655501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, i know, i'm dead < 1336178382 226859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to go to the leftstairs and then destroy the human priest of the International Church of Evil and then activate the blue clock and as soon as it reaches 42, you have to immediately teleport into hyperspace. < 1336178410 441904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't do it *exactly* then you will lose. < 1336178434 240038 :tzxn3_!~tzxn3@cpc2-nott16-2-0-cust552.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336178468 828789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if you do it exactly correctly, then you still have a 50% chance to lose anyways. < 1336178478 962726 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a 25% chance to draw and 25% chance to win. < 1336178494 889208 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What would NihilistDandy do? < 1336178508 109099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: have more hp < 1336178518 481534 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, he wouldn’t, but he’d still make it. :-P < 1336178520 201770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And never begin a sentence with "and". < 1336178525 808284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am i still alive < 1336178536 143963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336178538 887783 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like that < 1336178539 861076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :their weapons just < 1336178544 508240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turned to rubber for the past 10 turns < 1336178637 693848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336178639 827881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are deep elf soldiers scary < 1336178647 632504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:44 deep elf soldier (e) | Spd: 10 | Int: high (items) | HD: 3 | HP: 9-18 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 6 | Fl: spellcaster | Res: magic(24) | Chunks: contam | XP: 33 | Sp: magic dart (3d4), slow, haste, blink / throw flame (3d5), confuse, invisibility, magic dart (3d4) / throw frost (3d5), cantrip, haste, throw flame (3d5), magic dart (3d4), invisibility. < 1336178648 163022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336178661 787367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do they have a weapon? If so, then you should escape. < 1336178687 68959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: OK < 1336178764 588805 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/jfmoY.jpg < 1336178798 739606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like spaghetti < 1336178905 450342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it with this vault? < 1336178949 1254 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336179009 349437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you know java is interpreted and not optimised < 1336179056 245860 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no are you getting into a dumb argument in ##crawl < 1336179130 982686 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even want to know how this happned < 1336179151 785400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336179155 892358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im exiting the dumb argument in ##crawl < 1336179162 22883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me ---> the argument's exit < 1336179169 965340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is kyrris dumb or something < 1336179177 906888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just asking because 01:51 this is your first time talking to kyrris isn't it < 1336179255 98128 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all of the deep elf soldiers have the same spells and equipment then it makes it easy they should mix it up a bit to confuse you too < 1336179293 531662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yake < 1336179293 549963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1336179299 242311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan bye oerjan < 1336179356 220326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336179370 785339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how did your conflagration go < 1336179407 598795 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what conflagration now < 1336179412 906763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1336179414 857686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :colours < 1336179415 598572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1336179434 242928 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1336179450 671762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :square < 1336179451 41904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lose < 1336179457 670106 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336179465 879921 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which part < 1336179469 433446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336179470 675076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know < 1336179524 445216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336179526 215263 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336179552 19471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336179702 789617 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336179703 997094 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336179710 881196 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1336179713 371732 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336179717 97283 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not elliott < 1336179729 228557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336179735 826710 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should start being elliott < 1336179769 412081 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not possible < 1336179782 548049 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02 Error(437): elliott Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable < 1336179902 683870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh < 1336179903 940449 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336179910 581178 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i < 1336179912 857553 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :failed to identify myself < 1336179922 115326 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1336179929 822517 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im all alone in my sadness < 1336179986 700483 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest26299: Release < 1336179988 172726 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest26299: /nickserv release < 1336179993 385689 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i know < 1336179995 174412 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1336179995 763729 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336179996 999247 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it cure < 1336179998 939245 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sadness < 1336180008 893234 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think i can do it Gregor can you release it for me < 1336180038 895642 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Amazon incorrectly gave me the wrong MP3. What I have labeled "Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky - 77 - The Snow Maiden (Snegurochka): Aria.mp3" is in fact some awesome upbeat jazz with vibraphone solos. < 1336180040 39804 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest26299: Sure, just tell me your password. < 1336180042 764464 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :release me < 1336180052 365473 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what is it you want us to do?" "die..." < 1336180065 73762 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: its a little known fact that chykovskee actually loved jazz < 1336180066 401552 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unz unz unz unz unz unz unz unz < 1336180076 119141 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Arrrgh I remember that line but can't place it ... Star Trek or Stargate ... < 1336180077 389112 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chykofskee < 1336180087 8341 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Independence Day, as sampled by Infected Mushroom < 1336180109 539354 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im upset that Gregor isnt taking issue with my spelling of chykofskee < 1336180205 649396 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell do I care about transliterations of Cyrillic names? < 1336180225 64887 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i was < 1336180230 137411 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to misspell it terribly and phonetically < 1336180238 179264 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn it, it's even TAGGED as Tchaikovsky, I can't figure out who it is :'( < 1336180238 866945 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just that even the pronunciation is too exotic and complicated to admit that :( < 1336180252 194283 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: feed it into musicbrainz picard < 1336180258 224514 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the audio id stuff < 1336180267 249378 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@gwfw1-nat.booyahcorp.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336180372 960105 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest26299: Wow, that's pulling in a lot of deps :( < 1336180385 805199 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: There are other clients, I think. Dunno if any of them do the fingerprinting stuff. < 1336180397 620198 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are various phone apps and the like that try and do the same thing. < 1336180403 122513 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :libqt4-opengl // So glad this program needs OpenGL ... uhh, maybe Debian's 'picard' package isn't what I want X-D < 1336180408 841988 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think Picard will have a good chance of getting it, it's just a matter of how complete their database is. < 1336180415 488718 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It uses Qt. < 1336180419 452492 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's probably just pulling in all the Qt stuff. < 1336180421 121621 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have programs that use Qt. < 1336180425 508203 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Rosegarden. < 1336180431 814350 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be some indirect dependency, probably :P < 1336180463 243020 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/tmp/Pyotr%20Ilyich%20Tchaikovsky%20-%2077%20-%20The%20Snow%20Maiden%20%28Snegurochka%29:%20Aria.mp3 <-- listen to Tchaikovsky's lovely aria for vibraphone. < 1336180539 647781 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also contact Amazon about it to ask. < 1336180574 543092 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: help, i'm bobbing uncontrollably listening to this < 1336180630 524778 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wow i SERIOUSLY underestimated tchaikovsky < 1336180670 772086 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1336180740 861654 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Picard is giving me a bullshit response, it thinks it's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvDkIR-OyYI < 1336180760 913267 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are you sure you used the fingerprinting stuff? < 1336180774 386114 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1336180775 245023 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can identify tracks by tags and length, or fingerprints or something and obviously only the latter are meaningful here. < 1336180781 288669 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check the manual, it's vaguely helpful :P < 1336180782 622286 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to do that, this UI sucks. < 1336180785 996334 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. < 1336180835 612191 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, I see, I had clicked 'scan' and it did nothing, so I tried something out. < 1336180839 985252 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did nothing because it couldn't match it :( < 1336180847 76714 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336180853 435288 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the name of that other thing that does it... Shazam or something. < 1336181059 599856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can they include formats other than MP3 or does it have only MP3 format? < 1336181063 844471 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336181079 776442 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You could post it on /r/TOMT or something. < 1336181125 382068 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336181316 973288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Quiz Engine is not Turing-complete since all programs will halt; it has no loops. It does have conditions, but they cannot be nested. However, write some quiz file. Perhaps, try to write a quiz file which will attempt to guess which of people on this channel you are, without asking the questions which are direct enough to answer it. (Assuming that everyone in this channel, and nobody else, can try to answer, and answer truthfully) < 1336181373 813374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The answers which users select are not logged anywhere; they are only passed in the selector string in order to perform calculations on them and send the result to the client. If you still don't like it, you can download and run the program locally.) < 1336181395 735511 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oops < 1336181409 702975 :Guest26299!~elliott@95.149.229.194 NICK :elliott < 1336181410 937000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(However, there currently is no local mode. Write one if you want; I may also do so later on) < 1336181411 780688 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Changing host < 1336181411 798742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336181493 739986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow ok < 1336181500 810720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out jessica is powerless even at xl 3 and 19 hp < 1336181519 135673 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jessica is usually a wimp < 1336181580 404456 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i misread cheibriados as creibriados help < 1336181591 960589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's its real name!!! < 1336181615 66941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: WHAT A COINCIDENCE < 1336181644 699157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this coincidence only makes sense if you're watching my game) < 1336181652 467733 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit p < 1336181674 695299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1336181677 907979 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit Y < 1336181682 373094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336181683 400036 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then Y again < 1336181693 823117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did 2/3 instructions < 1336181697 186723 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336181734 823499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does chei really boost all your stats by 15 levels or am i misunderstanding it < 1336181770 537313 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stats are str/int/dex < 1336181775 437756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336181784 266871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's still a bit overly high isn't it < 1336181785 256056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want skill boosts go ashe < 1336181795 67771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashe boosts skill? < 1336181796 332218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*skills < 1336181798 825113 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336181800 299027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1336181800 923495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1336181801 378464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stats < 1336181804 895102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got confuse < 1336181812 474653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went with makhleb last game because < 1336181821 843160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im too young and violent for ashey < 1336181859 640248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xom's altars are great < 1336181876 163169 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could worship xom! ! < 1336181903 400308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true! it's theoretically possible for me to worship xom this gam < 1336181904 359169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*game < 1336181912 316039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does the ** starting piety apply to xom's interest level thing < 1336181917 221476 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1336181930 610406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah < 1336181931 379444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rude < 1336181946 33703 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to know a spelle < 1336181957 21394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sif muna is totally stuck up < 1336181960 910198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to blow up that altar later remind me < 1336182043 747417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, sigmund < 1336182054 212540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You are wearing: f - a ring of see invisible (left claw) < 1336182056 205442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1336182094 91069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion is right < 1336182101 94110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should add "hits you from afar" to that list < 1336182178 410544 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336182236 886411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336182250 957306 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't looking what happened < 1336182289 133890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaur occurred < 1336182309 816780 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have blinke? < 1336182320 411935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336182321 844959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i do!! < 1336182331 402518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm < 1336182332 740007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much < 1336182334 429998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cover to speak of < 1336182339 908866 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe blink over the ant? < 1336182344 159572 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336182349 313399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like here < 1336182350 295296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336182356 32436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may or may not protect you < 1336182359 32675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'd probably die dipping around the corner < 1336182360 697788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it moves < 1336182373 136329 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could happen! < 1336182402 21753 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no don't fight < 1336182406 122755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i had heal wounds < 1336182410 22724 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336182415 666810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bad at crawl < 1336182482 854424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to try again!!! < 1336182556 436132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cap,e < 1336182590 497020 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336182612 897873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im cap < 1336182616 451777 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1336182630 653041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should enchant it to +2 < 1336182657 419772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most body slot armoures go to +2 < 1336182665 475306 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also cloaks < 1336182691 705502 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only exception I can think of is bardings, which are internally represented as boots < 1336182702 714519 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh righ tand somme body slot armours give more base ac than others < 1336182709 454125 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like caps give +0 whereas helmets give +1 < 1336182719 391057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like: boreding < 1336182723 336565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait caps dont give me any ac??? < 1336182726 635773 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a +0 cap is better than nothing because it gives a bit of acid protection < 1336182729 488582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im wearing th ok < 1336182748 671922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enchanted robe < 1336182752 840852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"should have chosen cap" < 1336182767 384394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll probably be replacing both < 1336182776 809681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to stick with the cap for the rest of the game < 1336182777 595988 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :robe for heaver armoures and cap for hemlet < 1336182781 377573 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336182786 752775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im probably not < 1336182788 143788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless itll be < 1336182788 633659 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you find a cool artefact cap!! < 1336182789 527213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really funny < 1336182793 582744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that's fine < 1336182797 800209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not hemlet!! < 1336182807 833855 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dyrovepreva is a cap i think < 1336182815 608177 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hat of the alchemist is megagood cap < 1336182839 731174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats visored < 1336182841 426685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1336182844 31628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what visored means < 1336182848 336933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean for thegame < 1336182850 141268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the game < 1336182856 814104 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it means you can't wear it with a beak? < 1336182869 920309 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no tengu :'[ < 1336182911 73023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :":(" --tengu < 1336182941 354059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no the helmet gives me one more ac < 1336182945 373820 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336182948 731507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does hte helmet give me acid resistance < 1336182993 184856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(say no) < 1336183042 115114 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all you need is the slot covered with something for the acid protection < 1336183048 641427 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah the helmet works for head slot < 1336183066 53194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill < 1336183071 357178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep the cap around for sentimental reasons < 1336183076 872254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but use the helmet < 1336183262 710114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336183287 836622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creis < 1336183307 358064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that was lucky < 1336183705 636599 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: good self self portrait < 1336183716 67185 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks shachaf < 1336183759 761685 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to start keeping track of all these self-portraits. < 1336183764 332124 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I'll lose them. < 1336183835 264515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i can afford that cursed ring of hunger < 1336183866 882979 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: when is the self portraite of kmc coming out < 1336183879 98661 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever i figure out what to draw on it < 1336183905 550351 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. whenever i see the true nature of kmc's self < 1336183931 383963 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll go on a discovery adventure journey tonight to discover it through the power of adventure and journey < 1336183948 644966 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go into your cave and find your power animal < 1336183982 443540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: kmc doesn't have a self < 1336183986 678965 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you ever had a self portrait drawn of you < 1336184004 969899 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336184025 353527 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonqy: poor kmc < 1336184059 499568 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is your true self a pear < 1336184069 828581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no it's this vault < 1336184076 847235 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1336184099 597041 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is your false self a moth < 1336184109 996154 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336184131 562234 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you going to answer no to this question < 1336184141 315569 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336184156 438384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy help it's this vault < 1336184158 897437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont like gnolle < 1336184179 461918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i have no ranged attacks whatsoever < 1336184254 243226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should just < 1336184255 358041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :skip this level < 1336184351 376285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNOOOLLE!!! < 1336184365 647189 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i was looking away < 1336184379 560422 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it always when im not watching that you get in trouble < 1336184385 198144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336184386 179782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1336184387 871298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :physics < 1336184397 706244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those four doors open up to a scary vault right < 1336184413 938636 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you trrey opening them you'll rpobably gnolldie a gnolldeath < 1336184432 974634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336184500 472273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1336184509 504218 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hav bliink? < 1336184517 155371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1336184556 486321 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feare might work unless there's still that buge < 1336184566 336614 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be your best bet anyway < 1336184590 326649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im safe < 1336184590 527940 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably yiufe vaulte < 1336184594 674271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336184620 491023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi yiuf < 1336184633 891176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :snower arm orb guardian < 1336184711 186846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget how bad ev 6 is < 1336184720 182284 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1336184777 757330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oops" - me, too < 1336184854 121509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr8 < 1336184958 307115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336184970 889740 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :run up the staires maybe < 1336184997 519735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'll just < 1336184998 480452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dance" < 1336185093 11059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a weird map < 1336185190 449858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i hate merfolk < 1336185335 813065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1336185338 606949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goliath beetle + crimson imp party < 1336185395 404127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like giant arghball ha ha ha < 1336185450 183552 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336185467 280654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1336185469 626761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should train invocations right < 1336185511 486354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1336185538 655307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll want decent invo for greater servant < 1336185563 940537 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget the sucese calculatioens < 1336185569 651911 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by suces i mean < 1336185578 475798 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hostile chance < 1336185595 331070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill turn off combat and turn on armour and invocations i dont know theres so much ~conflicting advice~ about skills i see on ##crawl < 1336185609 433942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really see how anyone manages training only one skill at a time long-term < 1336185619 935422 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crawl is bad at agreeing with itself < 1336185627 509222 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i train multiple skills at a time < 1336185630 365807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i take what i read there with < 1336185632 463075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a grain of salt" < 1336185642 874059 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336185652 347906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1336185655 614569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does autopickup turn off on invis < 1336185658 109539 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the training one skill at a time craze is from when skills were in descrete levels rather than continuouse < 1336185659 316170 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I trust everything said on this channel. < 1336185662 88079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid picking up when fighting? < 1336185665 584399 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336185670 113961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336185673 747636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's annoying < 1336185676 281560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i won't turn it off though) < 1336185687 118250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate jellies < 1336185694 993796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336185703 352569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad i'm too shitty at minor destruction to take them down from a disatnce < 1336185719 917194 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone really should make a status line item out of autopickup being off. Perhaps i’ll get around to making that patch some day. < 1336185737 997227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :put it in the same place and colour as (Hit _) so nobody notices it < 1336185747 177075 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: nethack or crawl? < 1336185749 755577 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl < 1336185824 481792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, giant spore < 1336185825 941686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is there a < 1336185827 545638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :giant spore strategy < 1336185831 527891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mostly just let them explode on me < 1336185849 767085 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit them with ranged like darts or minor destruction to explod them from afar < 1336185858 150884 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't matter so much as undead since then they dont confuse you < 1336185866 590716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, at least the ogre died < 1336185896 759466 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, just throw something at them or blast them with something. < 1336185935 455383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :might switch to splint soon < 1336185959 284491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vehumet is weird < 1336185973 254567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha i read that as < 1336185979 971994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 scrolls of sky frog flesh < 1336186017 17508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy!!! < 1336186021 283915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1336186025 115069 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1336186028 132408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i'm going to be able to worship chei this game < 1336186040 491435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spider form for clinging < 1336186044 206032 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jokes your'e a ghoule < 1336186089 516426 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once found a scroll named MNOSOI SHIT. < 1336186110 206060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i should enchant something < 1336186110 951132 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you know that MIT's Kerberos realm uses single DES? < 1336186115 767641 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a huge learndb entry with things like that < 1336186117 183973 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awful < 1336186130 676046 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, fuc da sac or something like that. < 1336186143 473516 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awfully hilarious, you mean. < 1336186169 469440 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. http://crawl.akrasiac.org/learndb.html seems blank. < 1336186192 449613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it forgot everything < 1336186237 90761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really need to learn how to chokepoint < 1336186295 449961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: kikubaaqudgha sounds hardcore -- oh i suddenly realise that that's kiku < 1336186304 739865 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kikubaaqudgha is necromancy god < 1336186320 449740 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :necromancy magic, that is < 1336186328 595128 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :contrast with yredelemnul, undead friends god < 1336186360 106256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesser servant you're not helping!! < 1336186374 7626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to hold the troll in place < 1336186380 803862 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dancing around it and getting yourself hit won't help < 1336186384 173454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah oops < 1336186428 469121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fair!!! < 1336186436 812348 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1336186441 59607 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking away < 1336186444 671141 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and suddenly you dead < 1336186447 718175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prince ribbit happened < 1336186459 686948 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ribbit is dangerous < 1336186485 866432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he' syelloe!!!! < 1336186500 607913 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don;t trust the mlist, seriously < 1336186732 64245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, i know < 1336186749 200238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just thought my "memories of scare" were from when i was < 1336186750 494297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weaker < 1336187097 176644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat in here in before, I was asking something about some partial ordering (relating to multimanas in Icosahedral RPG). But we have, X is less than or equal to X, and if X less than or equal to Y and also Y less than or equal to Z, then X is also less than or equal to Z. But it looks like these two rules make a category; the first one is identity morphisms and the second one is composition of morphisms. < 1336188725 862861 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336188778 139967 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336190150 773002 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336190645 166302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we make up the Crawl variant with the following options which can be turn on/off before the game starts: * Do not restrict race/class combination * Disable artifacts * Disallow revisiting dungeon levels unless you are at a dead end * Disable religion * All items are created cursed * All NPCs explode when killed * Disable permanent food * Hit points refilled upon entering new dungeon level < 1336190825 89623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Hit points do not recover over time * Power points refilled upon entering new dungeon level * Power points do not recover over time * PC's experience level never increases * Skill levels never increase * Permanent map * Use "Twonky"-style display * Adjust NPC stats * No diagonal moves * All NPCs have a tracking device to track the PC * All NPCs know PC's weaknesses < 1336190957 946539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Creatures cannot be identified * Player is penalized for standing still < 1336191093 761775 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Feel free to. < 1336191108 547069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* PC cannot step in the same tile more than once < 1336191164 262542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Do you like this? Do you hate this? < 1336191230 649677 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly hate. :-) < 1336191238 780466 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that doesn’t mean someone else wouldn’t love it. < 1336191250 333712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336191255 474648 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336191291 84727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: * bad * bad * bad * terrible * awful * terrible * probably good * terrible * good * what are power points < 1336191370 545857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is even twonky < 1336191472 887937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twonky is an old computer game, played on a grid of tiles, each of which can be floor, teleporter, or wall; two of them are marked special as the goal square and a square which causes the game to end in a draw if touched. There is also the Twonky which moves toward you each turn and you lose if its distance to you is less than 2. < 1336191517 149254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You cannot see any of the tiles; but you are told the distance from your location to Twonky and distance from your location to the goal square. You can also shoot. You are told if you land on a teleporter, or bump into a wall or the edge of the grid. < 1336191528 674490 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The distances are Euclidean distances) < 1336191592 13498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Maybe this game doesn't call them power points; maybe they are called magic points or spell points; or does it use Vancian casting? < 1336191602 675930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has MP, yes. < 1336191610 366211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you even played Crawl? < 1336191612 744691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Then that is what I mean. < 1336191632 958585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, yes, I have played Crawl a while ago but I forget a lot of it. I have played it both on the computer and on the Nintendo DS. < 1336191653 155072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Crawl is available for the DS? < 1336191674 806870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall it is, but I may be wrong. < 1336191695 595388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it uses tiles. :( < 1336191766 314677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it does use ASCII text for most (but not all) things (I don't know why). < 1336191775 178053 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d *love* tiles with the tiles being simply renditions of the same Unicode characters with the same colors the terminal version uses. The benefit would be that the tiles are square and the minimap can work. < 1336191822 474769 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/tiles/a tiles version/ < 1336191828 137217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even hate tiles, inherently; there's no reason a roguelike should be constrained to the terminal grid as it is. I just have every tileset I've seen. < 1336191854 335474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They disregard the most important part of a roguelike: the highly stylised, minimalistic, symbolic line-art aesthetic that derives from the technological restrictions. < 1336191867 480271 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same characters but perfectly square would be just perfect for me. < 1336191870 437250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Geoduck tilesets are probably the closest to getting it right... but unfortunately they're pretty hideous. < 1336191883 221112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yes they are square; I remember that. < 1336191883 473505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336191933 772650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336191939 727115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:23 I don't even hate tiles, inherently; there's no reason a roguelike should be constrained to the terminal grid as it is. I just have every tileset I've seen. < 1336191939 922968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:24 They disregard the most important part of a roguelike: the highly stylised, minimalistic, symbolic line-art aesthetic that derives from the technological restrictions. < 1336191939 940941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:24 The same characters but perfectly square would be just perfect for me. < 1336191941 323780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:24 The Geoduck tilesets are probably the closest to getting it right... but unfortunately they're pretty hideous. < 1336191943 324039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:24 ion: I think you'd find just making them square might leave a bit too much horizontal space to be aesthetically pleasing. < 1336192006 936158 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just scaling the glyphs without respecting the original aspect ratio works. < 1336192020 761696 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I’ve tried that with PuTTY which supports that.) < 1336192029 134192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew. < 1336192051 988158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would do horrible things to the glyphs. < 1336192079 796141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: By the way, what's your definition of "roguelike"? < 1336192098 571257 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :roguelike, a. 1. like Rogue < 1336192110 458057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew you would do that. < 1336192115 594700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now do it again without using the word "Rogue"> < 1336192116 854871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*. < 1336192184 447341 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turn-based, random world, … < 1336192214 53303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "..." is the cheating part : < 1336192215 206457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1336192254 232779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is something like "A turn-based role-playing game that takes place in a mostly-randomised grid world." < 1336192262 992208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't quite capture the you-vs-everything-else aspect, though. < 1336192295 240097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you vs everything else is common but not really something that makes a roguelike a roguelike imo < 1336192351 966288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Yeah, fair enough. I was just thinking that e.g. giving Pokemon a randomised world and making it turn-based wouldn't make it a roguelike. < 1336192372 927339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe it would? I don't think so, but maybe changing the graphics to glyphs would be enough to sway my opinion. :p) < 1336192387 717326 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t find Crawl’s style where almost everyone else is 0) your enemy and 1) an ally with everyone else the best way. < 1336192408 932356 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphics fall in the "common for roguelikes but not something that makes a roguelike a roguelike" bin for me < 1336192430 857101 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you meet a random ogre and a random hydra, why couldn’t the hydra be an enemy of the ogre as well? Take care of the hydra together and then perhaps the ogre notices you have some nice stuff it would like to have. < 1336192437 899354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Right, that was facetious, but it's something that affects my gut reaction. < 1336192445 18272 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: crawl devs don't like that sort of stuff < 1336192451 994987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you show me a grid of tiles with a @ moving about in it in turn-based fashion I'll think "roguelike". < 1336192467 478035 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps it finds you a bit too formidable and prefers to try not to provoke you. < 1336192478 602655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yeah, I don't really like the "MONSTER TEAM" thing. < 1336192494 984797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :An ogre wouldn't exactly queue up behind a bat and a rat to wait to have a go at you. < 1336192511 136988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, I can imagine that making monsters purely self-serving would just result in a dungeon full of blood and corpses. < 1336192532 963276 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget why the crawl devs don't like monsters fighting each other, or maybe it was just the outspoken opionionful devs that didn't like it < 1336192540 984531 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. dpeg didn't like it, and he really didn't like it < 1336192590 116516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpeg sounds awful < 1336192617 520487 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :opinions was his job (he didn't touch the code) and he sure had a lot of it < 1336192623 303848 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of his opinions were good < 1336192627 731441 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest were bad < 1336192630 797887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how are you a "dev" if you don't touch the code < 1336192636 642626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was lead dev < 1336192638 549229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the job title "loudmouth" < 1336192643 281353 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“manager” < 1336192652 980542 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lead designer" < 1336192691 559407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :devesignoper < 1336192701 652170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget exactly how many of his opinions were good/bad but < 1336192908 119294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should name my roguelike < 1336192912 566662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something nice and misspelled < 1336192918 439681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make a word that's a misspelling of itself < 1336192980 793533 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1336192989 296951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336192998 792199 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336193043 872628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i had no idea there were so many angband variants < 1336193050 766343 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots < 1336193059 947421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336193063 426026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:38 i forget exactly how many of his opinions were good/bad but < 1336193063 623781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:41 monqy: you should name my roguelike < 1336193063 641857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:41 something nice and misspelled < 1336193065 16476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:41 can you make a word that's a misspelling of itself < 1336193067 14021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you < 1336193069 12064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed < 1336193073 12772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you quitted < 1336193086 593157 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1336193087 115159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Animeband is an animé-themed variant of Angband, with references to dozens of different animé series and video games. Its primary language is Japanese, although versions are later ported into English." "For example, races include DBZ Saiyajins and Androids, Moogles from the Final Fantasy series, and 'Hententmons' (a combination of hentai tentacle beasts and Pokémon)." thank you, RogueBasin < 1336193170 560019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh, of course < 1336193176 924979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i had a nice implementation of this function but I've forgotten it < 1336193242 351502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's a nice implementation of (Monad f) => (a -> f b) -> f (Maybe a) -> f (Maybe b) < 1336193424 410187 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1336193441 193748 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type \f xs -> maybe (return Nothing) (fmap Just . f) =<< xs < 1336193441 895254 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a (m :: * -> *) a1. (Monad m, Functor m) => (a1 -> m a) -> m (Maybe a1) -> m (Maybe a) < 1336193444 398093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr the solution involves >>= and liftM < 1336193453 567251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that's what I have < 1336193456 963121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not ideal :( < 1336193533 551066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1336193543 295281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would also accept < 1336193550 399456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Monad f) => f (Maybe (f a)) -> f (Maybe a) < 1336193556 352144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think is what lead me to the nice solution last time < 1336193655 286592 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be the case that the high score table would not be kept if any of the options I have specified are adjusted; unless you created a seperate high score table for the specific set of options. < 1336193673 663058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you see zzo38's suggestions for crawl < 1336193677 182611 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336193696 898531 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked a lot of them but probably they wouldn't work in crawl < 1336193701 733238 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because crawl is crawl < 1336193738 18938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do remember when playing the game, that I have wanted some race/class combinations which are not available; there were also some races and some classes which I have wanted to use which did not existing in that game. < 1336193756 190077 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most race/class combinations are selectable in crawl < 1336193771 472493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only ones you can't select are impossible in-game right < 1336193771 572259 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only ones that aren't are things like demigod priests since demigods can't worship gods < 1336193780 765928 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few redundant ones are unselectable too i think < 1336193789 288738 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and things that depend on items you can't use < 1336193797 406093 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly this applies to felids < 1336193808 936437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot to say ha ha ha felids < 1336193812 405118 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336193829 745956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want to be able to select redundant ones and ones which have unusable features anyways; they should simply be highlighted in a different color to warn you < 1336193892 73892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl already highlights terrbible combinations < 1336193898 425648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by highlight i mean < 1336193899 848213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the opposite of that < 1336193933 673844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>>= maybe (return Nothing) (fmap Just)) < 1336193946 245699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah, that's what I came up with too. < 1336193950 174376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear I had something nicer. :( < 1336193967 250978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1336193987 373357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. < 1336194034 517436 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you call it? Is "joinJust" OK? < 1336194099 315366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't call it anything, I inlined it at its only use site. :p < 1336194119 722268 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you lost it :'( < 1336194176 271519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, how about f (Maybe (a -> b)) -> f b -> f (Maybe a)? < 1336194180 600399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>>= sequence) < 1336194186 183755 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336194190 439512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice! But for Applicative f only this time :( < 1336194218 316249 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was answering your original question; not this new one.) < 1336194295 650351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1336194310 803507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's much nicer :) < 1336194318 506942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it that's Traversable's sequence? < 1336194321 766506 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336194343 313374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes. < 1336194358 229297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336194364 46859 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336194475 655676 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type \f xs -> sequence . fmap f =<< xs < 1336194476 324520 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (m :: * -> *) a a1. (Monad m) => (a1 -> m a) -> m [a1] -> m [a] < 1336194488 57310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequence . fmap f, aka mapM f < 1336194518 959525 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, indeed. < 1336194528 418746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, it is < 1336194606 135751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i play corwael < 1336194607 868444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1336194610 69459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my roguelike's name < 1336194610 893900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :corawel < 1336194612 771465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336194617 606714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent, i'm misspellign it already < 1336194617 739878 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :corwael < 1336194619 865195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good name < 1336194625 111149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's set in scotland < 1336194628 328125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to kill all the scots < 1336194634 891603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its plote < 1336194637 797305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you may also be misspelling "misspelling" too, isn't it? < 1336194668 511206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its true < 1336194676 754875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im also misorthographising "it's" and "I'm" < 1336194686 18062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it misorthographing < 1336194692 959420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1336194696 697076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336194712 446845 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :misthinging < 1336194712 583151 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :corwæl < 1336194717 355473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im corl < 1336194730 163093 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ii watchtch < 1336194752 893086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i really hate the earlygame < 1336194772 215889 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the better to autuomat it < 1336194776 648252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to make a mini-roguelike where you start out fully equipped and statted < 1336194779 4596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the endgame < 1336194797 560887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's just fune endgame dying action all the way < 1336194797 662726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doomrl has something kind of like that < 1336194823 199555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, and then you have to decrease your stats as you advance an experience level......... < 1336194834 936768 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :angel of confidence and angel of overconfidence challenge games, at which you start out 1/3 and 2/3 through the game already, respectively, with some gear to match < 1336194835 333519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a reverse roguelike? :D < 1336194839 783416 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336194852 98165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think some odd angbands have modes where you start at the bottom and have to get out < 1336194858 413249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: mine would be more like < 1336194872 954494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:13:43 < zzo38> O, and then you have to decrease your stats as you advance an experience level......... < 1336194874 832010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tries to present you with a game of nethack that has already been played up to the planes or whatever < 1336194878 345140 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive heard of a roguelike like that < 1336194882 954824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, you could reverse experience levels in some game possibly. < 1336194884 101901 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrt what zzo said) < 1336194887 6858 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget what it is called < 1336194891 620975 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't thinkl i've ever played it < 1336194903 473885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who say wrt are good people < 1336194932 687294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :John while James had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher < 1336194938 361585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl monsters that need to be removed: bats, phantoms, this list was longer but i forgot the other items < 1336194956 251217 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot more < 1336194964 644850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that need to be removed that i have encountered < 1336194971 260118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK, then add one option to my list which allows you to remove bats and phantoms and the other ones < 1336194972 363378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcrawl gets rid of all the annoying water and lava monsters by way of not having water or lava < 1336194990 437866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:16 amulet of rage[1/1]: Allows you to go {berserk}, and may extend the duration on kills. Chance of success depends on evocations. < 1336194991 452218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336194994 796699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this amulet will not be good for me < 1336195000 599323 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're aghoul < 1336195001 661951 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant berk < 1336195009 739928 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imps are no good either < 1336195011 240101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_e - a cursed -2 ring of protection (left claw) < 1336195012 783415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im ac 2 < 1336195019 460709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yumme < 1336195025 226605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah imps should go but they're less annoying than phantoms < 1336195039 301155 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336195040 994586 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vampires < 1336195044 835929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't seen them but < 1336195045 891171 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336195054 616192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do they do < 1336195055 242888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1336195058 338141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :worms and goliath beetles < 1336195060 19153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336195061 157275 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336195063 816815 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would also make up a game that, if any wearable item is cursed, the curse only disallows you to remove it and not any other effect. Non-wearable items which are cursed differ in different ways. < 1336195065 743469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually worms just need nerfing < 1336195066 562489 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean < 1336195070 328970 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I’m bored of watching your ghoul games. Play a DESu. :-( < 1336195073 27667 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worsms and golaioth betls nee dtogo < 1336195074 216423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to have a less powerful attack < 1336195086 390921 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: play a desu so ion stops complainign about it < 1336195090 223399 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336195090 376153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i might play a strong melee race at some point < 1336195106 651497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to play fancy stuff until i've won something because otherwise i'll just keep hopping forever < 1336195121 972546 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1336195123 464563 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you'll hate desu < 1336195127 52008 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good chance you'll hate desu < 1336195139 685747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ill hate desu because of the acronym it doesnt matter what the play itself is like < 1336195154 788583 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then play musu (ha ha ha) < 1336195171 355100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's musu like < 1336195174 592345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ha ha ha < 1336195214 744457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would also have no autocursing items (although it might be the case that some items are more likely to be created cursed) < 1336195247 307236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is there a way to force rest/travel even if an X is nearby < 1336195261 845664 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: luau scripts < 1336195283 466513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336195286 373357 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :musu is one of the "infamously boring characters" < 1336195352 851062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:22 musu[1/1]: Most exciting race/class combination ever! Wait 300k turns, go to next Dlvl, repeat. If you have a boring beetle zombie pet, you should name it "MuSu". < 1336195354 839011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds gr8 < 1336195372 437808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice ring!!!!! < 1336195455 525893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :musu isn't actually like that but < 1336195470 832298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it like i don't know what < 1336195472 20204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sus do < 1336195476 650861 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :summon stuff < 1336195477 747035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1336195478 484908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :summon < 1336195479 564432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336195484 380891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does mu make it more boringer < 1336195496 419544 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungerlesssnes < 1336195499 297701 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get free channeling < 1336195506 560629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you just sit there spamming summons until things die? < 1336195517 56857 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the gist of it < 1336195522 352403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr9 < 1336195532 928222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1336195533 638075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1336195534 377682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1336195535 80392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnolls < 1336195544 646954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyy < 1336195555 911167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyyyyyyy < 1336195574 496265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is the first time i've died to a hobgoblin < 1336195605 549315 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i find summonerrs lsess boring than conjurers because there's less keywork in it < 1336195623 476371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy i died < 1336195625 886631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336195629 489762 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the same level of thought (not much) but easier to numb the pain < 1336195632 266389 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'/ < 1336195650 127562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would do it too, you can select any kind of creature in game as your character and also too many classes to list, so instead we have to make the race/class selection you type in what you want, and you can use tab-completion; if you type ? then it selects one at random, and if you push ? followed by tab then it expands to a random selection in place, which you can remove if you wish. < 1336195653 700748 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much everyone who isn't me prefers conj. over summ < 1336195657 50577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not unreasonable to think that gnolls hit way too hard for things that can hit you from afar and come in packs really early on right < 1336195674 409584 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probalby mishandling them a little bit < 1336195685 847102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my gnoll strategy is just "run" because even with a chokepoint they just wear down my hp :( < 1336195688 256685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they haven't been so bad for my musus < 1336195689 694456 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336195690 756156 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not musus < 1336195691 648036 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mucks < 1336195696 693581 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and aren't mucks like < 1336195699 822193 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than ghmo?? < 1336195704 641934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but < 1336195709 25941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your script is probably smarter than me < 1336195716 834553 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my script is rly dumb < 1336195723 234651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1336195727 5385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how do i handle gnolls < 1336195729 800772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336195733 538523 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1336195737 259454 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just comes naturally ?? < 1336195767 882643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336195770 946480 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Play a spriggan enchanter. < 1336195773 618645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my previous strategy was < 1336195775 781000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chokepoint < 1336195776 647788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tab tab tab < 1336195778 93122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that lead to < 1336195778 450480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :die < 1336195780 539041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336195782 50431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they hit hard < 1336195785 334486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and come in packs < 1336195828 772139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336195829 388249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336195898 318653 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: They move fast, are stealthy, don’t need to eat much and are pretty okay at enchanting. < 1336195898 920508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill just < 1336195902 376241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :resign myself to dying to gnolle < 1336195930 186799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: yeah but that's like wildly different from everything else i've played (apart from my unserious spas diving) so < 1336195940 261551 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :INDEED. < 1336195948 421864 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :branching out is good < 1336195949 617158 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You’ll get to confuse guys and stab them. < 1336195957 216621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not when i'm terrible at everything! < 1336195959 16179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know anything about what I have posted far above relating to partial orderings and categories? < 1336195967 719730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to become less bad at things before branching out < 1336196018 303034 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad mindset < 1336196034 852497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the implication that i'm not good at anything < 1336196045 880646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1336196048 897914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not going to get less bad at < 1336196081 573470 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you’ll get better at things *by* branching out. :-) < 1336196093 580187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok < 1336196095 203620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i play < 1336196095 480792 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You’ll have more fun. < 1336196097 608001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336196113 57653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a nice melee race with lots of hp and str except not mibe or mifi or whatever because they're TOO MAINSTREAM < 1336196118 769653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by race i mean < 1336196119 250024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :combo < 1336196121 863140 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :play whatever ion suggests so he'll shut up < 1336196127 369913 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SpEn! DECj! DESu! TrBe! < 1336196136 785121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ion will never shut up < 1336196137 264585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok don't play what ion says < 1336196143 466854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: SpEn does not meet < 1336196144 752429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my criteria < 1336196145 907700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict < 1336196156 545654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think trbe counts as too mainstream < 1336196160 176420 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does str have to do with anything < 1336196160 249577 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want you to try a goot magic guy. < 1336196161 273566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WkmO? WWNp? ABCD? < 1336196163 84358 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1336196166 119988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15534 games < 1336196167 237412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too mainstream < 1336196172 311187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh str was < 1336196175 282516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally an abbreviation for strength < 1336196179 62379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not referring to the stat < 1336196181 923288 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o h < 1336196191 528828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: crawl's magic seems boring < 1336196198 26230 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s pretty fun. < 1336196200 12727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on what magic you're doing < 1336196204 281390 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people like it < 1336196207 973646 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people like parts of it < 1336196211 310763 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people don't like any of it < 1336196219 662615 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to try each part of it for yourself < 1336196238 463870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i could just unfairly disregard it < 1336196238 482084 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s so fun to cast ice/fire clouds with a powerful DE. < 1336196249 410021 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's boring < 1336196258 770549 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clouding everything is so ugh < 1336196260 250758 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You also have to try Sprint! < 1336196266 279012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did i died after 3 turns < 1336196267 90614 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing the same spell routines to everything is uuuugh < 1336196277 142163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would play a summoner except < 1336196280 66120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you get to summon straight away < 1336196282 950929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336196284 33408 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336196290 96110 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get spammals < 1336196290 445070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1336196297 100105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how different are the first few dlvls playwise to like < 1336196299 31219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything i've been doing < 1336196301 553672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a summoner < 1336196323 496041 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :different < 1336196335 3096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336196342 72425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what race for summoner :( < 1336196345 473209 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DE < 1336196348 975476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336196352 139177 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :og < 1336196359 805236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's greyed out!!! < 1336196367 993806 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want a noongrey? < 1336196375 718309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're trolling me so i end up with problem and then i will mad :( < 1336196386 715337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait ion is here he'll take that non-ironically < 1336196389 458458 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogsu is "goode" < 1336196392 647290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you allowed to select one that are greyed out? < 1336196394 59596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: felid is non-grey maybe i should go with felid!!! < 1336196395 552138 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i like it" < 1336196396 690582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes < 1336196398 963619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just saying < 1336196398 982338 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336196401 721985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"crawl devs don't like this" < 1336196407 867503 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DE has the most MP at start IIRC. < 1336196409 61305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ogres don't sound like they'd be very good at magic!!! < 1336196411 58437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like a TRICK < 1336196416 143393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ogres have +2 spellcasting < 1336196420 17744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what really < 1336196420 533748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336196421 318304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized that what I wrote above about partial ordering as a category is correct; I look on Wikipedia and yes it is in there the same thing I was thinking of. < 1336196424 569819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine im ogsu < 1336196428 473244 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1336196428 491488 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: JOKES' THEY HAVE -3 IN EVERY SCHOOL < 1336196429 641074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't ogres have lots of health < 1336196436 76751 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogres have lots of health jeeze < 1336196450 529848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: your joke is mean :'( < 1336196451 708950 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't even try? < 1336196452 278242 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1336196456 39722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1336196459 344329 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should at leastt < 1336196459 505524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i blame monqy" -- me < 1336196460 588923 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1336196467 18282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not before trying something less hideously terrible!!! < 1336196467 203406 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed < 1336196474 508196 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not hideously terrible! < 1336196483 823621 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna play ddsu? have fun < 1336196490 438120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336196491 342042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just < 1336196494 599568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :resting the cursor < 1336196511 457880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill play musu if yhou don't save me in the next 10 seconds < 1336196519 699029 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway pick whatever i don't care. just don't play vpsu < 1336196532 735315 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just pick DE? They’re good at magic. < 1336196546 646667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: guess what i just focussed < 1336196550 231498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play as ABCD < 1336196550 913128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :focussssed < 1336196559 53014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if it is permitted!) < 1336196560 580998 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: vp has the most annoying hunger mechanic in the game < 1336196567 163554 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :play as zzoo < 1336196568 429879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the potion of blood thing < 1336196571 43853 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336196591 776271 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to manage your blood level for resists/regeneration/etc < 1336196596 686412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i cant play DESu because itll result in terrible people making terrible jokes based on the acronym sory < 1336196600 461520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: sounds lovely < 1336196605 638694 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i won't make joke < 1336196616 610808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not you im worried about!!! < 1336196617 247391 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s not nearly as funny as HOMo. < 1336196622 478784 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up < 1336196624 818957 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :golly < 1336196626 667009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1336196634 748565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Then modify the acronym and recompile < 1336196639 624934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you know what'[s funny < 1336196641 572577 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KoCK < 1336196643 872407 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :play KoCK < 1336196649 932786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha ha ha haah ah ah ah ha haha its hilarious because its a word < 1336196653 484048 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kobold chaos knight? < 1336196663 855303 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the only one i can figure out < 1336196677 323502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :desu is deep elf summoner < 1336196677 951466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even remember what mu is < 1336196682 62691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mummy < 1336196684 287806 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336196740 184251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336196742 631559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i restarted ogsu < 1336196748 396043 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok < 1336196751 24358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok listen ill do ogsu if you come clean about how terrible it is < 1336196751 463054 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can play ogsu now < 1336196762 437713 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: m < 1336196764 81083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not terrible! < 1336196771 84726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:40 elliott: JOKES' THEY HAVE -3 IN EVERY SCHOOL < 1336196774 287789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont believ yuo :'( < 1336196781 168996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category theory does a lot of things!! < 1336196792 796200 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spellcasting is probably more important and it’s positive for ogres. < 1336196812 743896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok what i focus < 1336196817 744485 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336196826 157555 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn off dodge and stealth < 1336196840 465538 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use manual mode of course < 1336196841 359477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how do i < 1336196842 514981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelle < 1336196842 730557 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switch to manual and perhaps use Spellcasting * and Summonings + < 1336196854 319402 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: z key to spell < 1336196854 864997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: summonings are -3 apt though :'( < 1336196866 405687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it matters less than you'd think < 1336196870 832726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh should i still melee small things < 1336196873 655422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kan extensions also does a lot of things!! < 1336196874 682938 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :z? lists spells, M memorizes new ones. < 1336196878 633844 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn’t melee. < 1336196882 479735 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should melee < 1336196887 844529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but use a giant spiked club!!!! < 1336196893 465982 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just spammals now. < 1336196895 232208 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not your fists < 1336196901 83185 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for just startinfg off use spoammals < 1336196902 623917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have giant spiked club < 1336196903 893358 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can train a weapon later < 1336196911 67279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaargh no < 1336196916 893010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogre has bad hunger < 1336196935 972431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank < 1336196963 470699 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest to get Spammals! < 1336196967 471329 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1336196969 566355 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spammals! < 1336196973 472428 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest to get more MP < 1336196981 510364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is tricky < 1336196984 72838 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :before 5’ing to kobolds < 1336196984 526034 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: go musu if you don't wnat hungre < 1336196990 649939 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. I’m too tired for IRC. < 1336196990 707564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: noooo < 1336196993 598865 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :before o’ing to kobolds < 1336197007 967926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about kosu < 1336197012 49085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kobolds have an ok hunger mechanism < 1336197018 281839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and 0 hp) < 1336197054 780583 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then go kosu < 1336197064 675140 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wall of summons is kind of like hp < 1336197066 317741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1336197067 723995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill regret this < 1336197088 120215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i do when i summon a bat urgh < 1336197091 429910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i recast i run out of mp < 1336197160 993505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336197165 438739 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix signals are an unholy clusterfuck < 1336197166 797634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how to play this properly < 1336197170 717357 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just spammals with all your MP. < 1336197183 357346 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And switch places with them so they get to surround the guy. < 1336197200 613371 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No kidding < 1336197213 444466 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really the whole idea of POSIX is absurd at face value < 1336197229 562608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Why do you hate UNIX signals? < 1336197230 309565 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one could take a bunch of different operating systems that sort of have some shared history < 1336197238 158452 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make them act almost like the same operating system < 1336197264 675928 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the remarkable thing about a dancing bear is not how well it dances, but that it dances at all < 1336197288 887942 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: now is when you learn < 1336197296 800982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning is boring < 1336197297 213379 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can tell your spammals to attack someone in their FoV with t < 1336197307 592808 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: M to learn new spells. < 1336197317 254352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning is boring :( < 1336197318 753701 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, you can’t yet. < 1336197335 108373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hi, welcome to ##crawl! < 1336197342 638980 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where to start < 1336197349 44187 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's start with every table and list in http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/signal.7.html < 1336197390 953286 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the sheer number of signal-related syscalls < 1336197397 831703 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux has a syscall now named rt_tgsigqueueinfo < 1336197543 504650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is su always like this < 1336197551 14466 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1336197552 957090 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's su? < 1336197559 539142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiddly < 1336197567 469334 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiddly? < 1336197604 287139 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just added a bunch more options to squarelos' randomiser < 1336197614 783295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna see < 1336197617 342286 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :including: messages_at_top, view_lock_x, view_lock_y < 1336197621 623566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessss < 1336197627 195432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must see < 1336197638 193721 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the turn display will switch between the two different types of turns < 1336197642 282844 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the turncount will go up and down < 1336197652 54130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope messages_at_top changes less frequently < 1336197656 649357 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it toggles -ctele display too < 1336197657 187123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you'll get a headache < 1336197659 524553 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it does < 1336197687 190676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spams space on the CDO game list < 1336197704 265015 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336197714 347625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is amazing < 1336197715 663618 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336197720 887420 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1336197725 81873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im upset that not all the colours of the stat things change though < 1336197737 907464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that turn count is just perfect < 1336197738 545636 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1336197755 517513 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tryin gagain < 1336197761 939137 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time sitting up straight < 1336197764 628019 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all < 1336197772 628451 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hunched over the back of my seat < 1336197776 614103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do that < 1336197800 631408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: another thing you could randomise is the number of lines devoted to messages < 1336197805 216370 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1336197813 984349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be especially great when it's on top < 1336197821 382922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because everything else would bob up and down < 1336197852 904243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the language change on every turn? it seems to stay at Skermeesher for a while < 1336197854 66864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there it goes < 1336197865 859069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A concrete category is a category that is equipped with a faithful functor to the category of sets. But, what is a category that is equipped with a fully faithful functor to the free category of a subset of its quiver (meaning, a collection of some of its morphisms)? < 1336197918 759124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i sent that around orc priest inner flam < 1336197949 286328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what are the two types of turn anyway < 1336197986 415668 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is how many moves you've made and the other is how long you've taken in game time < 1336197997 178602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336198011 710965 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the latter. < 1336198020 955018 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It immediately shows how slow your hits are etc. < 1336198031 850184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is a turn count and the other is a clock < 1336198104 498903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: rip (i didn't see what happened) < 1336198112 462226 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like im getting progresisvely worse < 1336198129 154590 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i consider playing non-muck but that's just less cool no matter how you look at it < 1336198160 983425 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why aren't my messages going to the top occasionally :( < 1336198172 861834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wondered this also < 1336198210 916370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think its fairly obvious that continually playing with a nigh-unusable interface and mashing with a nigh-useless script will make you worse :P < 1336198212 426060 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the smoke trail behind you caused by Xom? < 1336198216 655160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336198311 927255 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i play < 1336198318 357436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :muck is fine bu < 1336198318 890942 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1336198322 255388 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe something else too < 1336198325 241851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feck of chei < 1336198329 178634 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh fine < 1336198335 982904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was kidding but < 1336198338 258954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for it < 1336198351 59598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't feck of chei < 1336198356 937878 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe my script doesn't work so good with feck < 1336198372 106795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work so good with anything < 1336198395 335109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :play idk something < 1336198400 624103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what should monqy play < 1336198411 880875 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1336198435 360914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: play DuNo < 1336198440 105309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*DUNo < 1336198444 742691 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336198459 467046 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep Undulate Norwegian < 1336198466 828981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep Uranian Nobbler < 1336198476 882063 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just play trck "oh well" < 1336198482 660230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trck of chei please < 1336198489 280967 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1336198493 288172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to make a combo funnier: append "of chei" < 1336198497 38558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im crawl expert already < 1336198520 766388 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think my script knows how to not starv < 1336198540 667949 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it forgot how to eat on nonghouls < 1336198554 289395 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah that's definitely eating < 1336198565 521580 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it butchering? < 1336198571 943010 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336198669 197044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should play deep dwarf skald < 1336198669 781561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336198673 654149 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336198682 856877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :merfolk fire elemental < 1336198720 197177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: merfolk fire elemental has to be good, right??? < 1336198726 46434 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336198781 646807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :":(" -- monqy < 1336198884 736913 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336198903 368507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do fire elementals get a god < 1336198908 38805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or merfolk < 1336198908 842790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you pcik one < 1336198910 272574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know nothing about either < 1336198912 985094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant < 1336198913 339164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stock < 1336198916 137182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ootb" < 1336198916 865681 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire elementalists worship vehumet < 1336198918 745931 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1336198952 799109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have to < 1336198958 322681 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow im lage < 1336198959 31635 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336198963 382598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1336198965 745078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they start doing so < 1336198968 241745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im not lage < 1336198970 745459 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I was joking < 1336199018 597313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: (D)'sterity < 1336199041 39304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come only health is changing colours now < 1336199117 640591 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :animate skeleton looks like a fun spell < 1336199184 332110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A dioid that remains a dioid if addition and multiplication are swapped and zero and one are swapped. < 1336199270 312465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that something like topology? < 1336199348 787431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ^ < 1336199379 747091 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, wtf < 1336199381 121810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any mathematics known here? Maybe oerjan? Maybe someone else? < 1336199384 579702 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the skeletons from animate skeletons never time out? < 1336199453 118351 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336199488 283975 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336199613 959674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what happened < 1336199621 401257 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lava snakes < 1336199632 402486 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :script got me deep into some serious lava snake trouble, i underestimated them on my escape trip < 1336199651 467489 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lava snakes are equally nasty IRL. < 1336199703 292213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you considered you haven't been getting progressively worst, just your script has < 1336199727 245730 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336199746 958244 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i require my script or crawl is unplayable < 1336199763 241025 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does monqy's script do < 1336199765 592203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not true, you can also dive!!! or maybe you considered that unplayable but you didn't seem to < 1336199770 924662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: explore and fight and eat < 1336199779 414956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has it bound to spacebar < 1336199791 145570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it also traverses stairs! < 1336199836 737549 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's clever < 1336199839 565198 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it clears D:1 for you etc? < 1336199845 854286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it clears everything for you < 1336199848 582668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bot < 1336199852 405453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's dumb and gives up a lot < 1336199855 995788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and monqy has to get it out of its mess < 1336199862 130499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's more like 1/3 a bot < 1336199914 572057 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the important 1/3 < 1336199915 364587 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1336199920 438620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen monqy play < 1336199937 719974 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Danswan's ghost (powerful Tengu Conjurer) comes into view < 1336199941 521883 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I wonder what spells it knows < 1336199972 48976 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1336199974 713188 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it died before casting anything < 1336200044 152430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you going to play one of the combos i suggested ;( < 1336200049 237494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh which < 1336200061 203430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep dwarf skald or merfolk fire elemental (whichever makes less sense) < 1336200071 922801 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't wnat either of those < 1336200109 215535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i suggested them < 1336200131 172426 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'll do ddsk < 1336200164 768531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what skalds do < 1336200222 979127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i like how deep dwarves just die slowly < 1336200230 322954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of my life :'( < 1336200248 265623 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336200248 715211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1336200249 524206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1336200254 620102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :abbreviated one of your inventory items as "hy" < 1336200297 717377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1336200402 31950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: rip < 1336200404 305040 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336200423 707797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:45 hunger should be seriously nerfed 07:46 Robot2600: why? no one starves to death < 1336200428 217131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid words :( < 1336200435 640064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i say it in here so nobody can disagree with me) < 1336200449 851914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the kind of abuse you can achieve when you ADMINISTRATE A POPULAR WIKI!!!) < 1336200592 12036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you converted to chei? < 1336200613 115330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone have good abbreviations for "consequent" and "antecedent" < 1336200626 383524 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :con, ant < 1336200629 849464 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cons, ante < 1336200633 775085 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :conse, antec < 1336200650 507167 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :conseq, antece < 1336200660 279687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :conseque, antecede < 1336200662 415486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm i was misusing consequent and antecedent < 1336200671 769449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you call p, a and b in if p then a else b < 1336200679 186873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p is the consequent i guess < 1336200688 986363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1336200691 55793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :antecedent i mean < 1336200705 277643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a might be the consequent but then i'm not sure what b would be and this is kind of silly < 1336201054 15486 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336201211 97082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The elsequent. < 1336201217 409058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336201230 528228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what soids fk okkr p ekt < 1336201251 605398 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlep?? < 1336201259 703882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336201354 404105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: shoudl i play sprint < 1336201366 531212 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want < 1336201370 963673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it crap < 1336201378 977231 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336201397 69072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not interested then < 1336201400 564198 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has different problems from normal crawl < 1336201455 39891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the best sprint < 1336201459 565379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looks like it has sonja < 1336201463 444093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember < 1336201466 445407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprint opinions being a thing < 1336201467 605693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are yours < 1336201502 908880 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336201508 912320 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all different! < 1336201520 79630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ones are terrible < 1336201524 561218 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all different! < 1336201575 129956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you not have opinions on them come on you hate something about almost every given aspect of crawl < 1336201600 221185 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have opinions on each sprint and they're incomparable < 1336201616 636572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but do any of them suck < 1336201624 40075 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what you mean by suck < 1336201626 192463 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I think i’ve won one of the sprints, but i don’t remember which one. < 1336201634 411760 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also apparently the crawl light server has a version with a bug where corpse sacrifices don't delete the corpses so you can gian infinite piety from them < 1336201654 12163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you're awful just recommend me a sprint!!! < 1336201654 433090 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bugged implementation of sacrifices sacrificing everything in los) < 1336201659 238413 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl light server? < 1336201664 976515 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1336201673 13315 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: all of them, in rotation < 1336201677 133885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://store.barackobama.com/joe-biden-can-holder.html thanks biden < 1336201680 825783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: uuugh < 1336201682 118024 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, i hadn’t encountered Crawl light before. < 1336201683 602711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: which should i start with < 1336201690 70069 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: any < 1336201696 897173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're awful < 1336201698 73295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll do 3 < 1336201704 257657 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: cheers champ < 1336201713 163125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill be a felid abyssal knight < 1336201738 936156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i died < 1336201799 185607 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im watchieng crawl lgiht game < 1336201817 804985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1336201819 886601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where serve < 1336201828 66055 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet light.bitprayer.com < 1336201831 766452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336201835 424016 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be sure to mess with your TERM if it's bad < 1336201842 370593 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336201853 657395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your password i want to send messages < 1336201880 129281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need a password to send messages? < 1336201891 960556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need monqy's specifically < 1336201931 846460 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :name squarelos, password robin < 1336201940 45236 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres only one active game and it's idle :( < 1336201950 514971 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i just registerd there) < 1336201952 280132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't idle 58 seconds ago! < 1336201959 226861 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the ond server deid or something??) < 1336201968 954153 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so my config is just defaults) < 1336201981 456153 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can try crawl light ! < 1336201982 851357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i play squarelos (i mean on cod (im not actually serious about this because i couldnt hope to live up to the artform you have taken crawl playing to)) < 1336201984 734955 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey it's unidle < 1336201985 923947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cdo < 1336201995 281440 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah anyone can play squarelos < 1336201998 831754 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't mess with the config < 1336202010 736340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already said it wasn't serious!!! < 1336202013 258000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i < 1336202028 857543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far crawl light looks like crawl < 1336202034 686532 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this seriously not tell which Sprint i played? http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/ion/morgue-ion-20110721-190348.txt < 1336202051 952749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: violet keep of menkaure < 1336202085 977787 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it say that somewhere? < 1336202086 760873 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few things look different from normal crawl < 1336202090 714943 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it has a glow bar < 1336202101 889266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an auto < 1336202104 899301 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336202109 379519 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the experience system is a bit different < 1336202114 514868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and # < 1336202137 835998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i cant decide if my roguelike should use 256colours or not < 1336202146 257890 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you want! < 1336202155 252934 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about 2^32 colours < 1336202170 30463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what does yours do!!! < 1336202173 701910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: terminals can't do that!!! < 1336202181 737242 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make an OpenGL client < 1336202183 14846 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doofus < 1336202186 733645 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: undecided < 1336202187 372591 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So write a new terminal which will be a requirement for your new roguelike. < 1336202191 377996 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, are your roguelikes multiplayer? < 1336202193 889415 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they have PvP? < 1336202199 660786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiplayer roguelikes don't < 1336202203 575068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :work very well generally < 1336202285 989963 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Crawl light warrants a fork? < 1336202286 120068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: also why < 1336202287 947210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :opengl < 1336202307 411198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im having trouble thinking of much a roguelike would require beyond sdl < 1336202317 183705 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336202323 616056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you can reuse an existing opengl engine or whatever it < 1336202325 694482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardly seems worthwhile < 1336202339 523283 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :SDL is icky < 1336202346 922970 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :opengl is icky < 1336202355 467531 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, better use a 2D API that’s an abstraction over OpenGL. You’ll get much better 2D acceleration. < 1336202360 479998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr "never seen opengl" < 1336202366 777191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it's turn-based... but yeah im not defending sdl it's just < 1336202375 408003 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion that remark made little sense < 1336202383 548553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh yes it did < 1336202387 55544 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it made perfect sense < 1336202390 666705 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for stuff like vector graphics, scaling etc. < 1336202391 611126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: messing with a pixel buffer is a hell of a lot less pain than writing opengl crap < 1336202397 275747 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest use a different frontend program as backend program, so that you can use it on a frontend for standard terminal, or a different one with mouse and icons, etc < 1336202399 226942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you use the programmable pipeline like you're meant to < 1336202422 922015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any reasonably complete 2d apis that use opengl under the hood? < 1336202431 607448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that aren't at the level of "game framework" < 1336202459 578912 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d hope so, but i haven’t researched what’s available. < 1336202496 810262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i might go for a graphically-rendered non-terminal thing i dunno < 1336202510 712915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more work < 1336202543 507181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of like the imposed 80x24 constraint you get if you go terminal-based and have moral standards though < 1336202544 946248 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cairo supports OpenGL, but i don’t know whether it would be useful for a game. < 1336202560 391697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: font rendering is "a pain" < 1336202567 860697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a terminal everyone gets to use font rendering they like, more or less < 1336202576 999543 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is a pain < 1336202578 283723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i do it myself text will probably be kinda yucky < 1336202580 716908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's true < 1336202607 293366 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my reasons for terminal would be: font, terminal, online play, termcaste < 1336202613 860930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've preferred a graphical display occasionally because you can improve things like new monster discoverability with it < 1336202635 243981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it would actually be useful for brief stats to appear as a "tooltip" style thing when a new monster appears < 1336202643 273496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't really do that with a terminal < 1336202664 2971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wrt online play/termcasting, I have a fairly solid plan for that already < 1336202670 66974 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1336202696 811518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I'm abstracting backends, the engine will explicitly keep track of "what the player knows/sees"; i.e. taking into account LOS and invisible monsters (if I have those) and so on < 1336202702 721031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a separate entity from the game world itself < 1336202709 817988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will also keep track of how it /changes/ from one turn to the next < 1336202713 709766 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browser-based is an alternative, too. < 1336202719 951752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can turn that into a network protocol really easily < 1336202726 577280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by simply streaming the changes < 1336202730 773327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that can be plugged in to the frontend locally < 1336202741 252201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can use your client with your settings to connect to an external server < 1336202749 263693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and similarly you can "termcast" by playing locally and also streaming the same stuff < 1336202762 764453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and play on a server by having your client connect to a server and send commands/render the changes it gets < 1336202772 165032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which the server then also sends to anyone who wants to watch) < 1336202785 342403 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That stream with timestamps also works as a saved “termcast”. < 1336202785 874269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it does require that people who want to watch have to have the game which is a disadvantage but < 1336202790 640506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: yes, exactly < 1336202796 185701 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abstracting backens is something i'd do even if i only planned on implementing one backend but < 1336202798 70457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better than a termcast because you can e.g. < 1336202800 698215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seek to a turn < 1336202803 548378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or seek to an event < 1336202804 491665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1336202807 62893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuugh writing multiple backends and networking stuff < 1336202813 792661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and < 1336202822 206146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be really nice to be able to look at someone's inventory < 1336202824 321885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :while they're playing < 1336202826 645815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if they don't choose to < 1336202827 737352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like that < 1336202847 455513 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you’ll be able to freely look at the inventory, abilities etc. while observing. < 1336202852 266374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i said :p < 1336202854 173689 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you just said that. :-D < 1336202863 149433 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::--D < 1336202882 117485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically as long as you have a clear separation of game world / known game state / commands that have an in-game effect (like changing a training schedule or whatever) vs. commands that are just interface commands (opening/closing inventory, examining items, etc.) < 1336202898 692065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you get recording/broadcasting/server play for free < 1336202909 369170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh *you also have to track deltas < 1336202910 280867 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo free < 1336202912 101997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just mutating things in-place < 1336202918 275808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well, for cheap, at leat < 1336202919 214933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*least < 1336202951 350773 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps also not make everything about the game based on convoluted logic written in low-level C code spread over a bunch of files under ellawl-ref/source. < 1336202960 586604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it *is* nice that people can play online and always get the latest version of the game though < 1336202968 189783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you lose with this, you have to update it yourself < 1336202981 421119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: isn't it C++ < 1336202987 262165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: so, i'm torn < 1336203008 252903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i *could* implement all this and then just only write a terminal backend and put it behind a mosh server < 1336203017 77169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it feels like such a waste given the advantages < 1336203019 871756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually having said that < 1336203025 866318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the recordings would be useful even if i did that < 1336203030 931261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you could watch them with the server's copy of the game < 1336203036 514801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and still get all the nice seeking tools and so on < 1336203039 634809 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, not very C++-like C++, but it’s C++ FSVO C++. :-P < 1336203043 704200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and watch with your preferred charset!) < 1336203049 4332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and so on) < 1336203062 194900 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or your preferred client, such as one on a smartphone or a browser-based one. < 1336203071 890385 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a terminal client on a VT100. < 1336203076 205413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: you lost track of what i was saying. < 1336203084 727658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should read everything i say before replying :p < 1336203096 833498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:29 monqy: so, i'm torn < 1336203096 981321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:30 monqy: i *could* implement all this and then just only write a terminal backend and put it behind a mosh server < 1336203097 78176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:30 but it feels like such a waste given the advantages < 1336203098 416312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:30 actually having said that < 1336203100 419652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:30 the recordings would be useful even if i did that < 1336203100 913906 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, i’m very tired and have a bit of trouble concentrating. :-) < 1336203111 763580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiredness excuses don't work on me! < 1336203120 536936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I never read anything anyone else says before replying < 1336203127 989052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just complaining because complaining is grreat < 1336203130 39629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*grrreat < 1336203202 208820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: anyway "i d k" < 1336203207 753820 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1336203210 649316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i don't really plan to have releases so < 1336203212 494687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'[ < 1336203215 362337 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336203215 573757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do want everyone just playing the latest VCS version < 1336203226 470224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes the you-have-to-install-it-locally thing difficult < 1336203228 753483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it autoupdates < 1336203229 149576 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven t decided about releasinge < 1336203233 782729 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336203237 662141 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont want to write autoupdates < 1336203238 51026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336203243 863667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was half a joke < 1336203254 370661 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a half too much < 1336203256 395864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would never work on e.g. linux where there's a billion things that can go wrong compiling < 1336203260 505359 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336203262 668067 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a half too little < 1336203275 777531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what i could do is make the backend a separate executable < 1336203276 692084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like < 1336203294 561080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all it has to handle is rendering a grid and messages and a stat display and do whatever fancy things like tooltips i add < 1336203295 371602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that < 1336203300 366736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't need updating when the game updated < 1336203303 138891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that'd make things like < 1336203306 570115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :viewing inventory of a game you're watching hard < 1336203313 192549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it'd uuuugh < 1336203315 534218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming is hard < 1336203364 778876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still haven't decided whether to go for 16 or 256 colours oops < 1336203385 246234 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about 88 colors! < 1336203408 131600 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for terminal im torn. for nonterm i;d just go all coloiurs all the time < 1336203421 697614 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no two pixels should ever have the same color < 1336203439 588382 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what happens when you go all coloiurs all the time < 1336203492 664931 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be an artform where you pick a 256-color palette and then draw a 16x16 image which uses each color exactly once < 1336203519 41912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Try < 1336203537 354149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a program that converts images to huge ones that use an entire 16-bit pallette < 1336203544 113151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still look basically the same (except awful) < 1336203580 117386 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey elynae's playing sprint iii < 1336203588 503521 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now's your chance to see sprint in motion < 1336203603 642190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spront < 1336203612 982829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that crawl light game was exceedingly dull < 1336203619 7234 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336203635 667973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip elynae < 1336203640 977222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed by ctrl+s < 1336203643 865977 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336203676 730175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sprinting is tough worke" < 1336203695 312315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the thing with 256 colours is that picking colours for tiles becomes ~impossible < 1336203696 15571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh < 1336203703 151373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it allows for things like pretty shading for like < 1336203705 939959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :water depth or whatever < 1336203711 215584 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've only won sprints 1 and 5 :( but i've won them a lote < 1336203712 726096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or heat (if theiy'res fyre) < 1336203721 706768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like < 1336203728 875451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudorandom shades of grey for walls and floor!!! < 1336203776 537815 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick to picking tiles colours is restrict yourself to say a 16 coloure palaet and then vary the coloures at rune time based on conditieons < 1336203783 339856 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. lighting < 1336203789 601167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336203793 123926 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just a random variation < 1336203796 618066 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1336203807 91932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make everything rainbow < 1336203813 372543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :every tile is flashing rainbow < 1336203838 215343 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://throbs.net/fun/swf.asp?rgb.swf (seizure warning) < 1336203876 284766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :old < 1336203882 245502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lovely < 1336203925 954452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you noticed how it stops seeming to have colour after a while < 1336203930 802806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colour becomes "flashing" < 1336203956 636232 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336203978 676287 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1336204152 56901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ive solved my colour problem "the solution is tiles" (guffaws) < 1336204179 742277 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gufawes < 1336204202 995310 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guyfawkes < 1336204220 858481 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good joke < 1336204224 655586 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :laughter abounds < 1336204378 574970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe ill colour everything programmatically < 1336204390 705659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they decide tile colours for nethack and dcss anyway < 1336204397 573325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess nobody knows about the former < 1336204397 975671 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue < 1336204436 756148 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know exactly how brogue does it but not everything of the same tile has the same colour so it definitely does something < 1336204451 428315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah seeing brogue screenshot is what made me think maybe i should 256 < 1336204451 733015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336204550 436230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i play brogue can brogue be played online < 1336204562 404324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if there are any brogue servers < 1336204594 635604 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes i recommend playing brogue it was fun until i got sick of it < 1336204601 530329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it be termcasted < 1336204608 416616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie does it have ~terminal playe~ < 1336204622 252471 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are least used to be terminalmod but it's uuugly < 1336204644 860073 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the faketerm mode is pretty) < 1336204662 259557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336204667 558199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i play any game without broadcasting it!!! < 1336204679 64231 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could < 1336204682 997048 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try the terminalmode < 1336204998 177103 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336205017 65010 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336205063 741416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336205415 808545 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu 13.04 Radical Radish < 1336205698 229447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336205755 602473 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be 12.10 < 1336205774 304655 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :13.04 would be Severe Skidmarks < 1336205829 823441 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :16.10 would be Zygohistomorphic Zebromorphism < 1336205871 600287 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shutp up < 1336205872 15220 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :12.10 is Quantal Quetzal < 1336205909 236904 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the english alphabet is different < 1336205914 514197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_, fuck off. < 1336205936 245155 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, don't interact with cheater_; that way, he'll fuck off quicker. < 1336205982 405096 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1336205987 462155 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're entertaining < 1336205994 490434 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll get some pop-corn and hang around < 1336206077 616071 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so what's up < 1336206122 788060 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_++ for Zygohistomorphic Zebromorphism < 1336206141 952265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"this channel is terrible" < 1336206156 111476 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love it < 1336206166 664904 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are you lovin' it? < 1336206168 309117 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_ says the most innocuous thing and everyone flips out and gets butthurt < 1336206174 758182 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is such a good troll that he doesn't need to do any trolling < 1336206182 92997 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a co-troll < 1336206336 957079 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc have you seen the i3 wm? < 1336206353 929346 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336206386 996819 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good < 1336206396 230814 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider it a gift < 1336206454 390908 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently software patents have been disabled from functioning in an EU court < 1336206469 83136 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting for the rest of the world to follow < 1336206483 502211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1336206523 681652 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :another one bites the dust < 1336206806 871704 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's dwarf fortress time < 1336206926 21762 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336207530 585330 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I my me mine I my me mine I my me mine I my me mine < 1336207539 740948 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, that has a very tenuous connection to DF) < 1336207578 687698 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1336208800 564544 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm probably too stupid to play dwarf fortress, i keep on losing right away. < 1336208884 592041 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to stop < 1336209099 875506 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_, there are guides... < 1336212142 179032 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in g++ 2.x you could define operator?: < 1336212407 157933 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336212637 245427 :cheater_!~cheater@g230220222.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336212869 137435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336214244 721559 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13370B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336217348 125093 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1336217629 285239 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336219298 665468 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336219712 688542 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-122-34.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336219847 774631 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336219893 921604 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-226-64.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336220133 845672 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-122-34.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336220325 224237 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336220335 544488 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-122-34.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336220621 799013 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13370B.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336220788 184469 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336221043 883853 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336224101 814462 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13370B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1336225801 999331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I seriously have no idea what the mingw.org guys are thinking. Their installer has an installer. < 1336226004 527414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I have decided that because all existing free wave-to-score programs suck, I need to write my own < 1336226098 620584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making decent progress, by using a novel approach I'm not sure has been tried yet < 1336226104 705338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's based on /not/ doing fourier transforms < 1336227016 628549 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1336227174 261394 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336227247 154075 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I created a page on your wiki, http://esolangs.org/wiki/~English, about a language I designed. Is it okay? < 1336227519 276695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: it's OK to document an esolang even if you're the only person who knows about it < 1336227541 393713 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1336228085 377347 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336228270 574270 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah, but i think playing by guides is sort of boring < 1336228273 678188 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336228281 846818 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's less playing and more work < 1336228295 412421 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you will NEVER BE ABLE TO PLAY DWARF FORTRESS < 1336228297 624729 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*extreme < 1336228435 369032 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1336228444 221607 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : sad but true < 1336228984 308803 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088170177.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336229563 280924 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336229584 464807 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone check out Lowgate again and see if it's correctly possibly-turing-complete now? < 1336229596 924671 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Taneb/Lowgate_and_Dilston < 1336231555 444456 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may play dwarf fortress for a bit < 1336232393 318032 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336232749 553106 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336233007 299485 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye! < 1336233011 805954 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336233090 753662 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336233125 652319 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088170177.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336233327 371462 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :It looks like an anemometer, but it is not. Anemometers don't fire bullets. Not even the expensive ones! Or I don't think they do ... if they do, meteorologists are more hardcore than I thought. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1336234138 522229 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336234571 400907 :atran!~atran@s83-177-138-113.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1336234604 80357 :atran!~atran@s83-177-138-113.cust.tele2.se QUIT :Client Quit < 1336235522 59732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I create a modifiable associative array in Javascript? is it {}, new Array. new {}, or something else? < 1336235673 778443 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one < 1336235685 90981 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's an object in JS parlance < 1336235702 861308 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :new Array shouldn't be used at all in most cases < 1336235706 852959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, just wondering if I'd create a constant if I did that < 1336235722 431357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't remember much JavaScript… < 1336235722 588516 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :new {｝ isn't even valid syntax < 1336235733 99055 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :JS doesn't have constants really < 1336235751 210080 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or well, strings and numbers are immutable < 1336235760 824020 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are no immutable tuples or sequences < 1336235835 488001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336236056 582323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336236385 533690 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-122-34.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1336236535 397397 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-34.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336237009 379114 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Nope. < 1336237032 115054 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Single DES doesn't sound like a good thing to use. < 1336237073 221195 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1336237132 486483 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asiekierka < 1336237212 488623 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336237216 216354 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336237275 720294 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello. < 1336237478 210695 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-34.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336237953 405503 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm figuring out how to use reddit < 1336237956 267981 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodbye free time < 1336238568 551432 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336239201 591183 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm streaming df again < 1336239784 139537 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you guys think of Java? < 1336239793 982865 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try not do. < 1336239795 46619 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to. < 1336239797 350883 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never used it < 1336239843 370747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I teach it < 1336239852 469833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is not a good language to teach people as their first programming language < 1336239852 778303 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like it, since I have only a limited amount of RAM on this old machine < 1336239862 617400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, it can be quite RAM-hungry < 1336239878 860569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately all new machines come with infinite amounts of. < 1336239933 524876 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a newer machine too, although I always like software to be usable on both < 1336239995 421759 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first (and so far, only) language I got decent at is Haskell < 1336240013 87287 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah haskell < 1336240023 823797 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's because I think weird? < 1336240024 399786 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about looking into that further some time ago < 1336240051 903456 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I eventually just stayed with good old C++ < 1336240061 645134 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as a main language) < 1336240086 952182 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to learn C < 1336240108 74602 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :no C++? < 1336240124 11904 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ doesn't quite appeal to me < 1336240128 593216 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336240130 67420 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1336240135 467573 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOP? < 1336240144 736072 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1336240181 567470 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I write C code, I'm usually annoyed by the unchecked type system < 1336240181 890860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is really incredibly far too complicated for its own good < 1336240195 933773 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ possibly :p < 1336240200 277868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just like XML and violence, the cure for dealing with C++ features tends to be more C++ features < 1336240212 705784 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ also possibly < 1336240226 571 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I still like the language < 1336240233 270561 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like XML < 1336240239 855238 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno why < 1336240280 959997 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but you can't ignore that some of those features are really appealing < 1336240294 123637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: which are you a fan of? < 1336240299 629618 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates. < 1336240303 685235 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because there's no equivalent for XSLT in S-expressions? < 1336240310 359669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: oh dear < 1336240313 986445 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless Lisp is one? < 1336240315 587773 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8994A.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336240323 629476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Lisp has macros, which are saner than templates < 1336240329 692440 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that sounds bad :( < 1336240337 675507 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :macros are usually bad < 1336240342 466052 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least in C++ < 1336240343 801993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: do you know what SFINAE means? < 1336240351 530149 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most web browsers don't run Lisp < 1336240357 337034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: the word has a different meaning in Lisp to cp < 1336240358 818347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cpp < 1336240366 547258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mean anything to cp :P < 1336240386 464127 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336240392 663024 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty big flaw. < 1336240415 717287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: that C++ templates are so complicated that it's even /meaningful/ is a sign that something is wrong < 1336240433 403735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd probably have been better of with explicit arguments in the <>, that'd avoid three quarters of the issues with them < 1336240440 85276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that'd still leave quite a lot wrong < 1336240441 282904 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to learn a tiny language next so I can write my own compiler / interpreter. I though maybe Algol 60 or Oberon. < 1336240452 936751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: ooh, go algol 60 < 1336240463 870914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I study mathematical idealizations of that, it's a really neat language < 1336240469 553799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's not really been anything similar since < 1336240504 719881 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a few books on Algol... Maybe after I finished the next version of Itsy Forth. < 1336240521 404678 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, my C textbook was written pre-ANSI < 1336240550 538303 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teneb: mine too. But you should be able to pick one up for a few $ < 1336240573 961190 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: templates may have problems, but I think every language feature in every language has problems < 1336240597 825959 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language would you propose as an alternative? < 1336240604 32388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to C++? C < 1336240633 66699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it really depends on what you're using it for < 1336240634 961769 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really an alternative. < 1336240651 799734 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :since C doesn't even check types < 1336240661 840700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C's typechecking is only marginally worse than C++'s < 1336240663 275587 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, it doesn't allow for user defined types < 1336240677 367154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yes it does? typedef exists, as do struct, union, and enum < 1336240678 854175 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++'s type checking isn't that bad at all I think < 1336240688 675158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C and C++ have /almost the same typechecking algorithm/ < 1336240690 823566 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but those do not allow member functions < 1336240695 71629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only difference is that C++ treats const differently < 1336240698 778447 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1336240699 892511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: are your member functions virtual? < 1336240711 169451 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :If needed. < 1336240715 935467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, you can replace them with non-member functions with no issues < 1336240732 669515 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 15.9 + 2.8 < 1336240733 466723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 18.7 < 1336240737 87554 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it takes away a notational convenience < 1336240750 82042 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can get a second-hand copy of K&R C for 18.70 < 1336240750 802889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares, it takes away a lot /more/ inconveniences < 1336240764 53600 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm. < 1336240767 395800 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure. < 1336240780 299274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, if you really need virtual functions, it's typically more straightforward to implement a vtable by hand than it is to use C++, which is a pretty crazy state of affairs < 1336240782 725672 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 22.53 + 2.8 < 1336240783 484769 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 25.330000000000002 < 1336240789 504284 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1336240804 331245 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt I have even a hundredths of your experience but I did find C++ quite nice so far < 1336240804 447588 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any Factor fans here? < 1336240805 175295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: floating point rounding error, I guess < 1336240821 62020 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's how much a new copy costs from amazon < 1336240826 775229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I don't know that much about it < 1336240881 356432 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems most of this channel is in either #0x10c-dev or #haskell or both < 1336240893 746116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not in either < 1336240899 872469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and haven't heard of #0x10c-dev < 1336240911 80830 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1336240928 148220 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not a frequent freenode visitor < 1336240930 115689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… 0x10c is 256+12 is 268 < 1336240941 932926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see an obvious meaning to the number < 1336240958 713498 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://0x10c.com/ < 1336240967 413748 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :The year 268 would have been a leap year :p < 1336241005 529250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's a notchgame < 1336241070 89545 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's 10^c < 1336241087 772543 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :10^c what would that be? < 1336241093 651745 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 ^ speed of light ? < 1336241122 409494 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 0x10^0xc < 1336241135 245436 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336241144 516199 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 ^ 13 ? < 1336241158 12821 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :16^12 < 1336241175 567274 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Notch's (the maker of Minecraft) next game < 1336241186 497799 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I realized that < 1336241187 179995 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336241192 41738 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up with the name? < 1336241209 589115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably he's started using bizarre names ever since Bethesda threatened to sue him < 1336241212 730383 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the "backstory and setting" < 1336241298 541183 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I think I'm taking a trope too literally < 1336241304 926998 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wearing a flag on my head < 1336241314 188219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Notch offered to settle the lawsuit with a match of Quake III < 1336241316 6311 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, bbq time, see you guys later! < 1336241317 253293 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336241342 358187 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 9.46 http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Programming-Language-ansi-Version/dp/8120305965/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1336241084&sr=8-4 < 1336241352 51525 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh too late... < 1336241409 357179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: is that K&R2? < 1336241426 889027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that's still in print < 1336241431 128723 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Answering a question not asked to me; yes < 1336241433 103182 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1336241547 892838 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You said you teach Java? I'm interested, what else do you teach? < 1336241556 241456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: OCaml < 1336241563 505466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to teach C, but I got out of that < 1336241574 212884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that module was a mess, and I couldn't do anything about it < 1336241575 485678 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heard of that, it's a functional language based on ML right? < 1336241580 770058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was trying to fit far too much into the syllabus < 1336241599 977534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: ML is a functional+imperative language; Caml is a dialect, OCaml adds objects to it but people rarely use them < 1336241615 253812 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, yes, I thought that < 1336241620 153334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that OCaml is probably the best-supported ML dialect around at the moment, so people use OCaml when they just want a generic ML < 1336241627 774642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(much to the annoyance of SML fans) < 1336241633 947429 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it in 'an introduction to lambda calculus'(one of the many) I guess < 1336241659 358101 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was 2 days ago, in fact < 1336241680 229082 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, where do you teach? < 1336241684 454850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Birmingham University < 1336241692 863903 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336241794 642715 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the students learn Java as a first language? < 1336241795 724142 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336241795 981141 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: By functional+imperative do you just mean impure functional < 1336241816 274797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I mean that the language contains first-class imperative constructs < 1336241822 841565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifs, whiles, assignable variables, that sort of thing < 1336241830 336781 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1336241832 810995 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live very near the university of Leuven and here all students start with Java < 1336241845 219115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: they do, although it's not really a good choice for a first language < 1336241869 125333 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language would you say is good to start out with? < 1336241882 246766 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why would it be not a good language to start out with? < 1336241892 324423 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started out with PHP I think. < 1336241906 167001 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336241932 912702 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that's not really general-purpose, and I think it might be better to start out with a general-purpose language(?) < 1336241963 189122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336241994 779692 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first language was BASIC :-( < 1336242001 661794 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1336242012 7736 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes me think of Edsger Dijkstra < 1336242014 183975 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336242064 357311 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to insult you, but he once said that "It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration." < 1336242096 776525 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dijkstra was wrong :-P < 1336242121 88930 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is this your site? http://zzo38computer.cjb.net :-) < 1336242129 334530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I agree Dijkstra was wrong. Possibly with some students it will be difficult not everyone though < 1336242132 698665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Yes < 1336242181 357534 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD04xx/EWD498.html < 1336242189 417909 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it should be in there. < 1336242232 312834 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Google sent me to FORTAVM :-) < 1336242270 944246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Google sents you to everywhere < 1336242348 224025 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336242409 533789 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not quite everywhere. I see this a couple of times a day "In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page" :-( < 1336242452 459490 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1336242456 837040 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen that before. < 1336242506 795176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should also not send you to my webpage because I have blocked that from any search engine < 1336242511 23116 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/~English < 1336242511 205848 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my first esoteric programming language. Is it bad/alright/whatever? < 1336242589 274081 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336242921 766732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I don't know. < 1336242977 613355 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one more language related question < 1336242983 710562 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you guys think of Perl? < 1336243011 694844 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I like it on one side, but I dislike the scalar type < 1336243022 832679 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the constructors < 1336243073 364574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know a lot about Perl programming, but I do know AWK < 1336243444 593107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I like it quite a bit < 1336243447 396835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl, that is < 1336243464 417755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not appropriate for everything, but it's the language I normally use for writing a one-off program, or for writing glue code (whether one-off or not) < 1336243796 186182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said the Canadian government would be stop making pennies. Is it correct? And, does United States government doing the same thing? If it is correct, can the stores accept United States coins (many already do) so that you can pay for one cents as well? < 1336243940 889784 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336244027 710580 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that is correct; the last penny was minted yesterday. < 1336244041 40552 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US has no plans at the point that I'm aware of. < 1336244052 751505 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that stores will accept US pennies, likely < 1336244114 900076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, how does this affect taxes? < 1336244186 670388 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taxes aren't paid in cash < 1336244221 822271 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh, surely taxes CAN be paid in cash. < 1336244338 475613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this chess variant? Except for the White player's first turn, each player may, twice per game, move a piece with duplication meaning a copy is left at its original location. You may not duplicate queens and kings (although pawns can be duplicated). Also, pawns can use such a move while capturing or non-capturing; other pieces can use duplication only for non-capturing. < 1336244385 639679 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I've never heard of anyone paying taxes in cash rather by cheque or other means < 1336244405 131120 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.182.239 PART :#esoteric < 1336244428 829797 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I don't mean that it's ever done, but all sorts of theories of economics break down if cash can't even be used to pay the institution that defines its value ... < 1336244510 562982 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: No they really don't < 1336244557 393228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you can definitely clear bills in the UK using cash, there are designated places you can go to with some cash and some bills you want to pay, and they will take the cash from you and electronically send the same amount of money to the person the bill is from < 1336244571 319272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only works with compatible bills, but there are quite a lot of those < 1336244613 295016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly it's done in supermarkets, to make sure they're sufficiently commonplace < 1336244637 64479 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: money is artificial; physical cash too < 1336244734 994787 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: No shit. Not relevant. < 1336244753 89783 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yes it is < 1336244777 150363 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cash can be used to pay, just not directly < 1336244795 614028 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The government should not be forced to rely on other institutions to accept payment. < 1336244829 859029 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moreover, the government should not force YOU to rely on other institutions to give payment. < 1336244892 468755 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's stupid < 1336244928 781961 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, your argument is both powerful and convincing X_X < 1336245022 737930 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It is stupid to make a system that relies exclusively on the transfer of physical objects with deemed value, when there is nothing in particular that is special about those objects versus any other forms of payment < 1336245073 172627 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physical cash is not the underpinning of the economy < 1336245080 964727 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: There is nothing special in general fare, but there is something special for the government: THEY MINT IT. < 1336245101 651929 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :irrelevant < 1336245169 377402 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :physical cash is a convenience < 1336245170 269882 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing more < 1336245204 191889 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physical cash is a convenience which also happens to be the only form of money directly attributed value by the government trying to accept funds X_X < 1336245242 523113 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's not < 1336245285 731076 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This conversation. It is so pointless. I don't even give a fuck anymore. < 1336245292 402392 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :laws about bills of exchange exist < 1336245294 168529 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :physical cash is only a token of value < 1336245297 722422 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1336245310 786451 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cheque is a negotiable instrument the same as cash < 1336245334 208339 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336245399 106533 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has its value defined by reference to cash, but there is no reason that cash needs to exist. If the government made a law saying "the new currency is the entirely digital zordnik. We are going to regulate the supply of zordniks like we did paper money." things would work fine. < 1336245508 799863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a idea for "digital cheques": You put the cheque number, sequence number, date, amount, and type of currency, and then digitally sign it with your private key. It may be further encrypted with the recipient's public key and/or the bank's key (to ensure not NSF cheque). And then you print it out and give it to the recipient the same as an ordinary cheque. < 1336245509 985175 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT THEY DIDN'T FUCKING DO THAT < 1336245538 616042 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A check is an instrument the same as cash negotiated WITH BANKS. The banks are regulated but they are not the government. < 1336245544 555310 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh why am I still talking < 1336245554 63143 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need elliott's "just huff out" ability. < 1336245557 31977 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The sequence number is there to ensure that it is not copied) < 1336245826 749336 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The banks are institutions granted charter by the government. Like, say, the mint. < 1336246066 364211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some question in here before relating to mathematics; I would wonder, does somme people in here, know any of these answers? < 1336246122 752200 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1336246129 371894 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you reask them or point to them in the logs < 1336246134 870674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336246176 890553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One question is, I know that a category equipped with a faithful functor to category of sets is called concrete category. But what is a category which is equipped with a fully faithful functor to the free category of a subset of its quiver? < 1336246300 685411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have other question too, in case you want them repeated at this time, too. < 1336246510 52226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a dioid which is also a dioid if addition is swapped with multiplication and zero is swapped with one; and what (if anything) does this have to do with topology? < 1336246685 993163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, this closure isn't closing properly < 1336246718 730965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries putting it in an anonymous scope < 1336246731 617698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What closure do you mean? < 1336246745 188457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an anonymous function in JavaScript < 1336246796 239194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Do you even know answer of these question relating to mathematics? < 1336246871 403806 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-230-188.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336247630 365349 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Pastebin some code. < 1336247681 125164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm going to get around it by using eval, I think, which is really hacky < 1336247706 463024 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, yeah, don't do that X-D < 1336247716 158775 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Post some code or describe your problem or something X-D < 1336247758 611087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, I do { var fc = f; var gc = g; obj.onchange = function() { myfunc(fc, gc); } } < 1336247784 61598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a loop < 1336247796 253078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when myfunc's called, it's always with the values of f and g on the last iteration of the loop < 1336247818 991966 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(function(fc, gc) { return function() { ... }; })(f, g) < 1336247819 815110 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336247823 395849 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how closure works. < 1336247831 136355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is bizarre < 1336247836 738963 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336247839 567969 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1336247840 808819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it bizarre? < 1336247843 527675 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That ... is not bizarre. At all. < 1336247848 68288 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just an imperative language with closures. < 1336247848 529887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wouldn't that just call the function immediately? < 1336247850 215603 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how closure works in any language I've used < 1336247852 671348 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome jfischoff < 1336247857 593406 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It does. < 1336247861 863440 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jfischoff: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1336247863 796798 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what that achieves is that it rebinds the variables < 1336247864 183026 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That calls the OUTER function immediately, the outer function returns an inner function which closes as you expect. < 1336247870 253644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, you need a scope that happens to belong to a function to close, rather than just any function < 1336247870 397211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It make sense to me. < 1336247871 990916 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creates a new environment with their current values < 1336247874 78795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a weird restriction < 1336247883 973603 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336247885 170501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Perl, any lexical scope will do < 1336247885 741652 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: JavaScript only HAS function-level scopes. < 1336247888 610322 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it weird? It is sensible to me. < 1336247896 597035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ah, OK, that's what I was missing < 1336247899 401223 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually newer versions of JS have block scope < 1336247904 303540 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use "let" instead of "var" < 1336247906 431852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: In Mozilla, you can use let to add other scopes too < 1336247914 152189 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That explains it. < 1336247923 854437 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Fine fine, in ECMAScript you only have function-level scopes. < 1336247954 896191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mozilla also supports yield, and also allows changing prototypes, which I have occasionally found to be useful. < 1336247972 841713 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if you are writing the program to run in Mozilla, then you can use these features. < 1336248048 368131 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Gregor < 1336248059 277222 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336248102 359332 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jfischoff: You're lucky, we're actually talking about a language, albeit a nonesoteric one. Usually we talk about stupid nonsense and play with the bots. < 1336248131 928205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as a large number of other stuff. < 1336248140 896491 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but you're not actually new, I just hadn't seen you X-D < 1336248141 688066 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1336248146 275057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are rarely on the topic but feel free to ask anyways. < 1336248167 897120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an advice that you should tell to everyone entering this channel. < 1336248204 303945 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should add it to `welcome ^^ < 1336248214 319766 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to a channel where we talk about random shit, enjoy! < 1336248251 467288 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What is surprising about javascript is the variance of the user's skill level < 1336248260 878294 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, indeed. < 1336248278 43467 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people think it is a bad language < 1336248281 154756 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :From "obviously eval is the only way to solve this what are arrays?" to "I use JavaScript because I have years of experience with Scheme" < 1336248287 258363 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really it is an okay language < 1336248306 47692 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: totally < 1336248349 88143 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://osteele.com/sources/javascript/functional/ < 1336248370 41503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's an OK language, but I also know I'm not very good at it < 1336248375 849611 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I don't think the variance is surprising at all < 1336248383 194585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd almost understood it right, just missed the nonexistence of inner scopes < 1336248383 512317 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it has /some/ good users < 1336248385 952699 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unlike, say, PHP) < 1336248411 608760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, JavaScript is better than PHP < 1336248427 997145 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: way better, IMHO < 1336248442 206665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336248597 753706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, FurryScript and Icoruma are implemented in PHP. Unfortunately, Icoruma is too slow with PHP. But at least I do better that Internet Quiz Engine is implemented in C (you might disagree and say there are security issues; but look at the program and then make a better opinion/analysis). < 1336248740 734039 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-112-138.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336248807 628482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, the main menu of Internet Quiz Engine (selectors starting "quiz.menu") is implemented in PHP, but when a quiz file is running (selectors starting "quiz.run"), that part is written in C.) < 1336248817 862498 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, I do not < 1336248834 398686 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the first seems irrelevant < 1336248841 559325 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the second far too vague < 1336248908 312728 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-230-188.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336248924 752302 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336248932 230161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: You are refering to my questions about mathematics? What makes the first one irrelevant? And what is wrong with the second one? < 1336248990 353776 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one is nomenclature for a property that does not seem particularly relevant, and "what does X have to do with Y" is, as a rule, always too vague < 1336249165 52681 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-112-138.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336249519 146313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Do you have any opinion about my Haskell "prelude-generalize"? < 1336249614 981901 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that is. < 1336249724 625969 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It affects the type of many standard functions, as well as implement a few new classes, and import common things from many other modules. Such as: head :: Foldable t => t x -> x; tail :: MonadLogic m => m x -> m x; (!!) :: (Copeanoid i, Foldable t) => t x -> i -> x; filter :: MonadPlus m => (x -> Bool) -> m x -> m x; choice :: (Foldable t, Alternative f) => t (f x) -> f x; concat :: (MonadPlus m, Foldable f) => m (f x) -> m x; < 1336249833 24043 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336249888 648786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition, you will write "head" instead of "fromJust", and "null" instead of "isNothing", and "convList" instead of "listToMaybe" or "maybeToList". < 1336249976 570479 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13370B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336250354 845440 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 < 1336250363 139323 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hzo38 < 1336250437 499772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Hello. Do you like 83 cent coins? < 1336250453 939320 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-117-115.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336250461 887491 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I've never seen one. < 1336250467 627120 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you named after them? < 1336250476 368380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. < 1336250507 222804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read an article somewhere that wants the Canadian government to make 83 cent coins. < 1336250521 702326 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What are you named after? < 1336250569 919753 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Actually, some random letters and number that a long time ago I was making a design on a pollowcase and ask them I wanted to put numbers, but the only numbers they had is 3 and 8. < 1336250592 142310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some people do not believe this; but actually this is true.) < 1336250610 457030 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you see monqy's self-portrait of me? < 1336250619 720768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. I have not seen. < 1336250627 704408 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty great. < 1336250630 989079 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I lost the link. < 1336250772 968097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/shachaf.png < 1336250831 462118 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thonqy < 1336250833 841174 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336250849 110619 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you ever draw any more self portraits < 1336250871 327249 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I drew one of elliott and one of myself < 1336250876 795108 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh < 1336250880 695972 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of nihilistdandy < 1336250880 829354 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i have one < 1336250883 176603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This looks some kind of strange < 1336250885 303453 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1336250886 664519 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRAW ME DRAW ME < 1336250933 9426 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit busy so it'll have to wait but < 1336250938 157879 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My attempt: http://codu.org/hats/random.php?sm < 1336250939 251510 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"maybe eventually I'll do it" < 1336250965 752920 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: IMPRESSIVE < 1336250980 257085 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i see the one ofe nihilistdandy < 1336250987 832121 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im good arte < 1336250995 650176 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i see the one of elliott < 1336251003 99012 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/dondy.png < 1336251006 715829 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/eliot.png < 1336251091 259738 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-117-115.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1336251119 155528 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: ask for monqy"s self self portraite < 1336251125 128246 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/monqy.png < 1336251146 937337 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: never minde, monqy read your minde < 1336251166 934441 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its all those eyes < 1336251218 602712 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: could you draw a self self portrait of me? or is that too many selves < 1336251249 370626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336251253 822751 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude he linked to one like 5 minutes ago < 1336251261 395860 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was just a self portrait of shachaf < 1336251269 765324 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336251271 459167 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn eyes < 1336251276 720837 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only ever drawn a self self portrait of myself < 1336251298 539527 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words a self self self portrait < 1336251331 181452 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's of myself, it's every self potrait < 1336251339 692918 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also a self self self self self portrait < 1336251346 897582 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and self self self self self self portrait < 1336251366 868354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually you'll get tired of putting self in front so you may wish to stop while you're ahead < 1336251380 728783 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336251383 407944 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thinkinge < 1336251480 365263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1336251489 966789 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "self " ++ "portrait" < 1336251491 483160 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "self self self self self self self self self self self self self self self... < 1336251507 552709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sad faite < 1336251508 256504 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let self = fun "self" :: Expr -> Expr < 1336251509 232874 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1336251513 325268 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix self < 1336251514 798230 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : self (self (self (self (self (self (self (self (self (self (self (self (sel... < 1336252215 628457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Declaration = Declaration Name [Token] Token deriving (Eq, Show); data Token = T_Name Name | T_Para Int | T_Num Int | T_String PoolString | T_List [Token] | T_Call Name [Token] | T_Enum TreeName | T_Lambda [Int] [Token] deriving (Eq, Show); Now I have [Declaration] what is best way to make the index of the blocks of different kind to be accessed easily? (The first Name of Declaration indicates the kind, not the name, of the block.) < 1336252286 572156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: Name, PoolString, and TreeName are all type synonyms for Word32) < 1336253237 473860 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1336253317 513521 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336253722 839252 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13370B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1336254790 301611 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-249-21.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336254964 612433 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-217-209.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336255150 73868 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/05/weak-evidence-seizure < 1336255581 586183 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57428067-83/fbi-we-need-wiretap-ready-web-sites-now/ < 1336256530 226918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336256585 693846 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-159-17.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336256880 345708 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8994A.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336257105 915395 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336257568 308327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Full moon tonight. < 1336257710 171545 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336257839 313302 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336257843 857739 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. Freenode SASL script for irssi requires Crypt::OpenSSL::Bignum which of couse refuses to build correctly on my system < 1336257855 370478 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: tomorrow, i think < 1336257974 829549 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have confirmed that freenode intentionaly blocked my ISP fron using non-SASL connection < 1336257979 137060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: In my timezone it is today. < 1336258011 972598 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sometime between dusk here and dawn here :) < 1336258061 969662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In GMT it is (Sun) 5/ 6/2012 3:35 Sun (Tau) Opp (Sco) Moon < 1336258098 111327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my timezone it is at 20:35 today < 1336258106 467533 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336258115 966701 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be 22:35 here < 1336258117 894137 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336258121 620023 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :my app is wrong then < 1336258129 70172 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336258139 767506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your app is wrong? What app is that? Maybe you misconfigured it? < 1336258147 396298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing < 1336258174 469858 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is called Luna < 1336258177 484937 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1336258178 489158 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for nortti is Sun May 06 01:52:05 UTC+3.00 2012 < 1336258178 932974 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only has one setting < 1336258191 629408 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(northern or southern hemisphere) < 1336258243 259941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then get a better program, such as the UNIX "phase of moon" program, or Astrolog. < 1336258279 440109 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/7/8/9/127789.jpg?v=1 < 1336258317 91570 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, please stop pasting today's Cracked articles into the channel. < 1336258346 373416 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: okay < 1336258347 150967 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you will be shipped off to Guantanamo under UK anti-free speech legislation. < 1336258386 546103 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: But I happen to live in finland < 1336258404 922723 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll invade you because we're so jealous of your free utopia. < 1336258834 636500 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: by the way os there anything new going on in Airstrip One? < 1336258841 194616 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is < 1336258865 854345 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well we considered passing a motion to outlaw happiness for young, liberal 20somethings. < 1336259185 919404 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was during this age that most of the Finnish culture formed, like the Sauna, the Finnish cottage (mokki), hunting (metsastys) and drinking themselves to death due to depression(perjantai-ilta)." < 1336259438 897760 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We're going to take a trip, way, way back to the prehistoric times of April 18, 2011: The day Apple claimed ownership of the rectangle." < 1336259475 507141 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd ask what, but really I don't want to know < 1336259476 41977 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336259477 285035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: hi < 1336259492 756667 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: forgive me etc etc etc < 1336259504 741451 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1336259568 399959 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: which one you don't want to know about < 1336259580 66096 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1336259772 480370 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: first one: perjantai-ilta means friday evening < 1336259823 381589 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey wow Minecraft finally eliminated seperate single-player. < 1336260367 803159 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-153-44.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336260378 835723 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1336260388 420112 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: forgive monqy etc etc etc < 1336260530 733232 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-159-17.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336260570 471294 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cnet.com/news/57428067 < 1336260704 250207 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: full moon was yesterday already < 1336260749 586160 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1336261055 81326 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-153-44.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336261980 855914 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336262230 662168 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indeed single DES is not a good thing to use < 1336262277 566472 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like these people will sell you a device which brute forces DES in a day for $10,000: http://www.sciengines.com/ < 1336262369 619552 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many other ways to screw up crypto; if brute force is a realistic attack for your system that's really pathetic < 1336262451 443081 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DES was probably less pathetic in the 1970s. < 1336262478 423650 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336262497 109248 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why MIT can't switch now < 1336262498 525697 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Debian keys produced with that bug, would trying all possible keys be considered brute-force? < 1336262541 857911 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably they have some legacy system that only does DES but i don't know what or how important it is < 1336262562 340984 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think SIPB should force the issue by buying a DES cracker; they have too much money anyway < 1336262573 661601 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: not for the purposes of my statement < 1336262577 555470 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the screwup there is Debian's patch < 1336262607 756068 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does a device that brute-forces DES in a day really cost $10,000? < 1336262642 311504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: Yesterday? But the full moon has not yet occurred. < 1336262736 551320 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looked full enough. < 1336262860 352161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't quite full. < 1336262962 834453 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's hard to find prices, but some places say $10k < 1336262970 95567 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe it anyway < 1336262975 197980 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336263133 344033 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that I would've expected it to be less. < 1336263140 839744 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't have much of a reference point. < 1336263153 300690 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336263154 630661 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Other than "$250,000 in 1999, apparently".) < 1336263172 736283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a horoscope, you can see when the full moon is. There should be a line (called an aspect) between the sun and moon. If this line passes through the center of the chart, then it is full moon. The moon and sun move counterclockwise relative to the signs; the moon moves much faster. So depending on which side the aspect line misses the center, you can see the before/after full moon. < 1336263181 244808 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336263187 969022 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336263191 309163 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFF's thingy used custom chips < 1336263251 822234 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is there a bare eye way to discern a full and not-quite-full moon? < 1336263280 391203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: I don't know if the difference is enough to see by a bare eye; you might need a telescope. < 1336263314 310666 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336263336 402404 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1336263938 277437 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336264135 331280 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336264163 20104 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-125-146.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336264305 283998 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom_hoover: URL, please. < 1336264314 69255 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he left. < 1336264345 430217 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hion < 1336264364 993879 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hachaf < 1336264529 697066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use the UNIX "phase of moon" program if you have it, to tell you phase of moon. You could also use a program such as Astrolog to tell you the phase of moon and many more things (if you can understand what everything means). Most calendars also have phase of moon but those only indicate the date and not the time of day, so it may not be precise enough. < 1336264588 859176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: Astrolog has the ability to print calendars, but you cannot plot any other data on these calendars; only the month, days of week, and day numbers are being displayed!) < 1336264625 50693 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thion < 1336264676 47659 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heegan < 1336265532 102008 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336265749 882239 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336265872 489390 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336266084 165710 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-249-21.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336267085 683614 :Patashu!~Patashu@114.73.19.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336267676 120324 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336267950 285368 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@114.73.22.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336268120 289084 :Patashu!~Patashu@114.73.19.174 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336269911 580590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the bird for (\f g x -> f (g x) (g x))? < 1336269977 832654 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rooster. < 1336270018 41351 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke. < 1336270029 121616 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good joke < 1336270074 289430 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rooster is only going to make some of us hungry. < 1336270471 30654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it so that Warbler is a type for endomorphisms of any category and Starling is a type for endomorphisms of a Kleisli category of a monad on any category. < 1336270498 725726 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336270875 465219 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@114.73.22.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336270996 333217 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [e]xtend every extra extreme < 1336271029 559424 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336271032 455338 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [e]xtend every extra extreme < 1336271047 446707 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-04-26.txt:01:24:11: and finally, there is a game named Extend Every Extra, and as google told me another one named Extend Every Extra Extreme. And another game named Kingdom Hearts 3D subtitled Dream Drop Distance < 1336271262 241600 :Patashu!~Patashu@114.73.22.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336272537 992229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree that the whole house system is stupid? < 1336273308 355973 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1336274609 586553 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/house //, yeah < 1336274665 618353 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336274942 961605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336276476 275625 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336277170 462435 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336277172 603430 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336277568 880276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336277611 869465 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The time is not a time I like < 1336277622 950301 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1336277637 35809 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's inbetween 3 and 6 AM < 1336277680 277918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What house is the sun at? < 1336277702 184151 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number 14? < 1336277711 410133 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know what that means < 1336277722 58060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean the houses on a horoscope; they only go up to 12. < 1336277750 163742 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have no idea < 1336277781 623191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Houses numbered 1 to 6 are below the horizon; numbered 7 to 12 are above the horizon. The sun is at the cusp of the 10th house at solar noon.) < 1336277822 919120 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like twilight at the moment? < 1336277833 965440 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's been twilight for a while < 1336278113 226229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my computer I can compute those things with a few different house systems. In my location, sun is in 6th house. < 1336278145 895457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For twilight, maybe the sun is in first house? < 1336278302 224784 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I give you my co-ordinates, will that help? < 1336278322 833435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336278351 53532 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :54.9695 N, 2.0842 W < 1336278366 39438 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(approximately) < 1336278396 923426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is close enough < 1336278416 219036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes the sun is in first house in that location < 1336278416 576040 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The approximation is in accuracy, not precision < 1336278418 785101 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1336278443 947131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is still close enough for most purposes. < 1336278502 335594 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could I have just said "55N, 2W"? < 1336278539 468924 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: The program I have expects two decimal places, and the coordinates of a city in a map should be close enough. < 1336278552 176720 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1336279120 161176 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1336279138 280120 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was pondering yesterday that it would be interesting to me to have a number that was either: integer a + 0, or integer a + 0 > b > 1 .. written like 3 or 3.f where f stood for fraction < 1336279209 948352 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i will get told off no matter which incorrect notation i use, i tried my best < 1336279265 367977 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, normally i might have 4 numbers: 2, 5.3, 7, 3.11 but i would now have them as: 2, 5.f, 7, 3.f < 1336279296 936061 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or probably even leaving the decimal off altogether < 1336279346 938932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some house systems are Placidus, Campanus, and Regiomontanus. < 1336279391 288032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is also Whole, but Whole house system is very stupid so don't use it.) < 1336279948 42251 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336282458 306114 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1336282464 626261 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This week’s electronics lectures have a promising start: http://imm.io/oobP < 1336283449 276764 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: have you ever played stratego? < 1336283893 5254 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. There's a way to stick 364 bytes in a Twitter message. < 1336283895 946744 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How, you ask? < 1336283904 136665 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy. Encode base 2^21-1. < 1336283944 595743 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twitter's message limit is in codepoints, not bytes. < 1336283958 235258 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://blogs.oracle.com/ksplice/entry/the_1st_international_longest_tweet < 1336284045 359949 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, dear, you can use UTF-8 that doesn't map to code points. < 1336284082 722304 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have thought it would be characters, not codepoints < 1336284097 653210 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It's not. If it's characters East Asia is screwed. < 1336284106 187045 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they would perform normalization server-side? < 1336284114 226562 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Kay, true. < 1336284114 349908 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's plausible but not what I would expect < 1336284136 228508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have played some similar things. < 1336284144 738471 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: kriegsspiel? < 1336284168 786095 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many copies of U+FDFA 'ARABIC LIGATURE SALLALLAHOU ALAYHE WASALLAM' can you tweet :) < 1336284191 835314 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one probably doesn't normalize out to basic letters < 1336284199 711191 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :under whatever twitter would use < 1336284209 442719 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the upper bound is... 538 bytes? < 1336284217 485243 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are some situations where single codepoints will expand dramatically < 1336284292 859883 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: is there a way to print a message longer than usual so that it will display correctly on the twitter site? < 1336284313 892196 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lb((2^31-1)^139)/8 that is. < 1336284380 873155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have once played a chess variant known as kriegspiel. < 1336284393 98728 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how hard was it? did you win? < 1336284416 857016 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if their UTF-8 parsing is still more naive you might be able to get more in. < 1336284418 245449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget. < 1336284435 747535 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they let you use an unbound number of continuation bytes? :) < 1336284491 622729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I also know about Luzhanqi (which is a Chinese kind of Stratego game) < 1336284835 237865 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336285114 849081 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Assembling service pack", says Windows. < 1336285127 962626 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to think they write it in assembly and distribute the source code. < 1336286374 24478 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336286403 209021 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336286734 415959 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think one of the biggest problems in game design is that sometimes people think there are rules to follow they can rely on, and other times people think there are no rules < 1336286869 333735 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have a second shot at saying that: game designers are subject to the following wiki cut and paste: < 1336286873 701342 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At a group or community level, the conventional levels of significance or salience are slowly embedded in the sign systems and culture, and they cannot arbitrarily be changed." < 1336287031 709206 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I still don't understand why platform games are fun, but due to convention it is difficult to think about 2d games in other ways. < 1336287209 28741 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 fucking hours, and Windows is installed. < 1336287220 187627 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I still don't have a C compiler! < 1336287317 835804 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-244-235.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336287352 196111 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-229-106.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336287694 338878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: The rules of game design are whatever you design the rules to be. And then, if you don't like it, adjust it until it is better. < 1336287731 609077 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Yes, that is the problem of Windows; it lacks many important programs as standard. < 1336287773 132232 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Not the only one. < 1336287786 255210 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not even the most significant problem. < 1336287800 998459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Yes; there are many other problems too. < 1336287802 455165 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the most significant problem is how stupifyingly hard it is to dev for. < 1336287838 557351 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, even though free tools exist, a lot of them don't work as well as MSVC < 1336287842 820329 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like for anything OpenGL < 1336287856 556169 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're just doing basic stuff though, Dev-C++ is a pretty easy way to get mingw set up < 1336287860 438738 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an okay IDE < 1336287867 370119 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: And MSVC itself doesn't work tolerably for C. < 1336287874 601623 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nb: all my information about windows dev is 5+ years out of date < 1336287876 194846 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: oh? < 1336287884 824031 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They last touched it in the 90s. < 1336287897 899945 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, they don't even implement all of C99 < 1336287897 938745 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides which, unless you're going to use a higher-level language, you're stuck with the Win32 API. < 1336287911 634747 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is evidence in favor of the nonexistence of God. < 1336287925 930984 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't even implement C90 perfectly. < 1336287939 42520 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what i recall, Win32 API is pretty bad, but POSIX is no picnic either < 1336287942 199849 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though admittedly, that's just because of a couple weird edge cases. < 1336287978 279932 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX is rough. Win32 is designed by monkeys on typewriters. < 1336287994 895163 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the Windows kernel interface is pretty nice, if undocumented < 1336288007 549028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: In addition, I do not completely understand that wiki cut and paste. < 1336288007 945862 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win32 contains the letter s a few dozen times, and some monkey piss? < 1336288018 968568 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because unlike Linux they break compatibility whenever they like < 1336288035 460041 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux has a *lot* of syscalls which are special cases of other syscalls < 1336288070 647957 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int CALLBACK WinMain(HINSTANCE hInstance, HINSTANCE hPrevInstance, LPSTR lpCmdLine, int nCmdShow) < 1336288089 654453 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does CALLBACK do? < 1336288090 152829 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you make the *entry point itself* seem horrible? < 1336288104 228867 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not so horrible < 1336288110 88543 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's one of the calling convention specifiers. < 1336288116 182315 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one, though < 1336288190 509335 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1336288223 3457 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336288249 163996 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336288260 981194 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit this is impossibly hard to find. < 1336288284 254775 :Patashu!~Patashu@114.73.22.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336288340 158175 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's odd that one of C's main criticisms has became standard in many programming languages < 1336288344 975443 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, = vs == < 1336288408 144582 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not one of C's main criticisms < 1336288431 761534 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worse still, just by not using those *stupid* typedefs it could look nicer: int WinMain(void *h_instance, void *h_previnstance, char *cmdline, int cmd_show) < 1336288489 94419 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame that junk's there because Win16. < 1336288520 52975 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, it's the criticism of C that I hear most often < 1336288545 370621 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where it would've been more like int WinMain(void __long * h_instance, void __long *h_previnstance, char __long *cmdline int cmd_show) < 1336288617 113595 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, some moron liked his Hungarian. < 1336288838 884498 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hikhq_ < 1336288888 508662 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1336288903 658317 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's because people are idiots and can't look past trivial syntactic matters to the things which actually make a language good or bad < 1336288942 662988 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's easy to have an opinion about syntax, and there's no objective right/wrong answer < 1336288953 722558 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except we can all agree Malbolge is bad. < 1336288968 86065 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything less than Malbolge, though? Yeaaah. < 1336288993 113110 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you voice an opinion about semantics or types or implementation or security, someone can actually refute your claim with objective fact < 1336289029 844298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: In some cases it might depend what kind of opinion they are, too? < 1336289037 914057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like, I mean, more specific than what you said) < 1336289039 221076 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the opposite extreme is dumb as well < 1336289061 111006 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming language design is largely a user interface problem, and syntax *is* important < 1336289110 910379 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just easy to bikeshed on. < 1336289121 56167 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, any UI problem is. < 1336289187 396592 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-229-106.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336289219 935185 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336289371 5521 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-229-106.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336289381 991103 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the spelling of = and == is probably below the level that makes a big difference even from a UI / UX perspective < 1336289411 914734 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like having consistent syntax, uncluttered syntax, that's a big deal < 1336289426 600245 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric := and == are conventional enough by now that I don't really care < 1336289442 186595 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric := versus <- causes loads of confusion in Haskell, but it's not like there's an existing convention to appeal to < 1336289455 393953 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=/== bugs can be a big deal when you can use = in expressions like in C < 1336289471 313211 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/= in Haskell is a bit weirder. < 1336289494 405318 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: true, but it's easy enough for a compiler to warn about those < 1336289498 108807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How does = versus <- cause confusion in Haskell? < 1336289524 119455 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they're both sort of like assignment in traditional imperative languages, but neither is actually that < 1336289539 697026 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the confusion is not actually syntactic < 1336289567 619370 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the confusion is that beginners don't have the concept of "let binding" and "monadic sequencing" < 1336289575 757026 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's phrased as "what's the difference between = and <-" < 1336289577 137467 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it ever really help to overload operators when bugs will be caused by the differences? < 1336289585 175150 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just that the syntax happens to look like the syntax for completely different semantics. < 1336289598 285939 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though in-and-of-itself = and <- are quite reasonable choices. < 1336289601 712064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The problem is solved by not using do-notation and list-comprehensions? < 1336289608 759501 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe < 1336289617 449678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But = just means to specify the definition of something < 1336289619 753274 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still have to explain how = in let/where is not an assignment < 1336289635 9751 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in practice people will see tons of code that uses "do" and list comprehensions < 1336289640 234280 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just ignore them < 1336289649 692507 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, does not knowing what any piece of a program does always lead to bugs :D < 1336289651 286146 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: i recommend writing code without bugs instead < 1336289673 786515 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend writing in /bin/cat. < 1336289687 999092 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that language has a simple quine < 1336289696 638620 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, in other words, does writing code with side effects always result in bugs? < 1336289717 609052 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does shell. < 1336289723 119759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Sure, a lot of codes will use them; but you do not have to use them even if another code does. < 1336289743 276370 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but you have to understand them if you want to read existing haskell code < 1336289743 450080 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crackers never seem to run out of exploits < 1336289748 794412 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :including any of the popular books < 1336289755 802304 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's really essential if you want to learn the language < 1336289762 648184 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless the null file happens to be a valid executable on your system) < 1336289782 810889 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "cracker" is someone who breaks into computers, not to be confused with a "hacker", which is someone who cares a lot about what Paul Graham and ESR write < 1336289840 754058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, that is right; you should understand the features of existing programs. < 1336289862 149299 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do hackers call vulnerabilities in programs "exploits", and write code which makes use of said "exploits"? < 1336289924 540009 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: I suppose it might sometimes be the case; but features of the program might not necessarily be security vulnerabilities < 1336289926 168406 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean, a bug which only matters when someone intentionally invokes it < 1336289991 409089 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine that you wouldn't get many bugs in pure functional code < 1336290002 511071 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: you'd fit right in in #haskell < 1336290012 806662 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should go there and ask them "does writing code with side effects always result in bugs?" < 1336290013 338348 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know if such things really are bugs which only matters when someone intentionally invokes it < 1336290074 251496 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :verily, one might say the maintenance part of the software development lifecycle is due to side-effects < 1336290090 354875 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verily. < 1336290118 892442 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly there are no bugs in the software that is never ran. < 1336290136 426506 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: basically, if your program typechecks, it's fairly certain to be doing what it's supposed to do < 1336290146 136046 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION for i in /bin/* /usr/bin/*;do ln -sf /dev/null $i;done < 1336290170 940403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knuth once said "Beware of bugs in the following program; I have only proven it correct, not tried it" < 1336290178 671714 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially functions of type [Char] -> [Char]. < 1336290194 816476 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah! What could that possibly do? < 1336290217 509286 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well theres a malware side-effect < 1336290219 275016 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: *proved < 1336290225 799050 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly it can't be anything *but* a perfectly correct C-to-Brainfuck compiler. < 1336290229 784050 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: the bonzy buddy theorem, yes. < 1336290233 244848 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonzi? < 1336290236 352743 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it installs a rootkit < 1336290238 481363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Well, it is certainly wrong < 1336290240 626081 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: there you go < 1336290249 88700 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere between [Char] and [Char] < 1336290296 685882 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: That is why they have Safe Haskell < 1336290320 264926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you cannot install a rootkit somewhere between [Char] and [Char] < 1336290323 4777 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if someone calls unsafeExecuteBonziBuddyExe < 1336290338 706815 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in c (which is basically all i know) char stuff(char a) { install_rootkit(); return a; } >:-) < 1336290351 965837 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeExecuteBonziBuddyExe :: () -> () < 1336290365 63324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PART :#esoteric < 1336290372 926025 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336290374 738851 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonqy < 1336290382 361142 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff = unsafePerformIO install_rootkit `seq` id < 1336290383 891918 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no channel like #esoteric. < 1336290426 630726 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear. < 1336290439 430165 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jamie Oliver and Steven Gerrard have joined forces. < 1336290443 234754 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This cannot bode well. < 1336290447 896787 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have they joined bodies? < 1336290449 225865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Yes, you can od that, but even in C, you could have the operating system deal with what you are doing such as having things to sandbox the program or to trace system calls or whatever < 1336290476 797730 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are these people < 1336290514 718252 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBC News‎ - 6 hours ago < 1336290515 18597 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Celebrity chef Jamie Oliver and England footballer Steven Gerrard are calling on the government to fight obesity through cookery teaching in ... < 1336290517 724134 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :first hit < 1336290518 915203 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :google it < 1336290521 931252 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what's google" < 1336290538 468092 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :google is a search engine which you access with the URL http://www.google.com < 1336290552 671262 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse c code might be .. char add(char a, char b) {unsigned int c,d,e; c=(unsigned int)a; b=(unsigned int)d; e=c+d; a=(char)e; return a; } < 1336290561 644171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What would you think, my opinion that such features of Haskell such as do-notation and so on should be macros rather than built-in; what would you think? < 1336290570 552778 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not obfuscated < 1336290584 972939 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i would like that < 1336290593 568392 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to have a macro system powerful enough to do these things < 1336290597 49495 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Why, that's isomorphic to the Haskell code "foo = unsafeLaunchTheMissiles"! < 1336290598 301247 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it's not also terrible < 1336290615 291206 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, no. < 1336290625 30025 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm stupid: all variables actually do get initialised there. < 1336290628 5735 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was at a job interview last wednesday, and they gave me fizzbuzz, i solved it by concatenating strings, and outputting it in the end. it was argued that use of a variable to hold the final output string was obfuscation and the code became unmanageable. < 1336290633 273551 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's merely bad. < 1336290636 128596 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main() { printf((char*) 0xGOATSE); } < 1336290644 296927 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: What about d? < 1336290645 748596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Myself too, it is why I wanted to make up the working group for new "Ibtlfmm" programming language, to make these and other features; perhaps we can help < 1336290652 725389 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it stand for? < 1336290654 863860 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, blah, sure enough. < 1336290655 376912 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you able to solve the fizzbuzz problem < 1336290658 360090 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ya.. the main problem with it is the function being named add < 1336290666 861393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I would think that is not a valid C code, it won't compile, isn't it? < 1336290667 386115 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why, that *is* identical to unsafeLaunchTheMissiles. < 1336290673 626264 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it is a very prominent problem in computer science < 1336290681 14333 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :npikhq_ < 1336290699 504382 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: you should have given them a solution which uses each of the GoF Design Patterns < 1336290702 748843 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: If by "computer science" you mean "interviews that seek to eliminate people with truly gross incompetence". < 1336290717 659355 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they don't get the joke, walk out immediately < 1336290729 577840 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc++ < 1336290730 930085 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they do get the joke, cockslap them for being smug elitists and walk out < 1336290733 944602 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: actually on friday i was considering if you could make a language where Singleton and MVC are the only two basic data structures, and there are some simple operations between them < 1336290738 481614 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc+=kmc < 1336290738 884392 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it would be touring-complete < 1336290765 127742 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tourette-complete < 1336290768 729824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: Put something on esolang wiki if you have ideas about that < 1336290783 312264 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map succ "Haskell" < 1336290783 960572 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Ibtlfmm" < 1336290787 816706 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: I hope you don't want to work at that place that gave you fizzbuzz. < 1336290798 970671 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc = kmc↑↑↑G < 1336290824 168338 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i started to get a hint of it when i learned that the best assembly language programmers basically know all the side effects of all the instructions < 1336290828 299416 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, really, giving a shit about it beyond "is this person less qualified than the average janitor?"? < 1336290830 261534 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they wanted to pay much below the standard rate < 1336290834 12994 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking fizzbuzz does not necessarily indicate that they're idiots < 1336290842 435432 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does indicate that they're casting something of a wide net < 1336290845 184750 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they didn't have AC < 1336290846 741626 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Computable functions are passé. < 1336290858 10123 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :with full-height glass walls < 1336290860 131056 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which point, i don't really see why assembly language is so valuable < 1336290860 290127 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1336290875 22261 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you end up being a roast chicken in june and august < 1336290886 235500 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Fizzbuzz only really tells me that they happen to have idiots coming in asking for jobs. < 1336290892 397588 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc = fix (\i → Σ(i)) < 1336290902 453854 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i should have wrote fix Σ < 1336290903 66060 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't particularly look forward to sitting in a room with four sweating computer programmers < 1336290905 8621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: But assembly language can be good for program for only a specific computer; for other programs you shouldn't use assembly language < 1336290906 241982 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except they then gave a damn about how it's implemented. < 1336290910 561871 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha cheater__ < 1336290917 138242 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Too mch time away from #haskell! < 1336290920 866161 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Σ? < 1336290923 560600 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: i think everyone offering a job has some idiots coming in < 1336290926 425460 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy beaver function < 1336290927 849664 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the one i meant < 1336290931 462415 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-229-106.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336290932 897338 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : perhaps assembly language programs should be specified in terms of the intended side-effects < 1336290939 634312 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can i see your beaver? < 1336290940 668576 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1336290944 871738 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like .. "i want to swap this flag" < 1336290945 642014 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good function < 1336290947 391331 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fizzbuzz is quite handy for finding those idiots. < 1336290954 151908 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-229-106.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336290955 63118 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure they're idiots exactly < 1336290959 285102 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also gave me some other thing < 1336290962 244755 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're people trying to scam their way into a job they aren't qualified for < 1336290967 561434 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a thousand word text to sort by frequency < 1336290970 73046 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might be perfectly intelligent < 1336290972 733929 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kay, true. < 1336290973 190011 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-229-106.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336290988 157714 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine a lot of the people caught by fizzbuzz are smarter than average people with useless liberal arts degrees who can't pay rent anymore < 1336290994 479059 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-229-106.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336290998 270265 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damned shame programming ability *isn't* identical to intelligence. :P < 1336291012 658789 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did this in the simplest way possible and the guy gave me shit that i didn't use some sort of hashing algorithm to keep count during a single iteration < 1336291013 661837 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: what do you mean? my ability to write PHP code proves I'm a world-class olympic rockstar genius < 1336291027 224452 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, given some of the code I've seen, at best only weakly correlated. :/ < 1336291030 908841 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know you learn a lot about the company in an interview < 1336291037 292985 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe more than they learn about you < 1336291041 546912 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i told him that it still wouldn't have been perfect and started describing to him the ultimate way of doing it char by char < 1336291045 478715 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :using a trie < 1336291048 173139 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ℙℍℙ < 1336291050 818322 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he bailed out < 1336291051 272211 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically each assembly language instruction seems to be a set of register manipulations not implied by the mnemonic in question < 1336291058 782268 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: my eyes, i can see forevenr < 1336291073 949057 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you get asked to do a fizzbuzz program at an interview, do they tell you which one's fizz and which one's buzz? < 1336291091 913069 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually they did "hip" and "hop" on mine < 1336291101 987633 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if they're *both* fizz, man? < 1336291113 1572 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it would be called fizzfizz < 1336291125 32949 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you'd have to do it in Befunge < 1336291127 959575 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably you get more information because the company interviews more people than the number of places you interview at < 1336291143 402589 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so their interview performance is more of a well-worn expression of their identity < 1336291146 106120 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb < 1336291155 595492 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have definitely learned more about them than they about me < 1336291163 601001 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was some privately-owned startup < 1336291182 368581 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :owned by some aging guy who put his family's savings into it < 1336291199 856967 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm kind of hoping that next time I need to get a job, I can just be like "look at all this stuff i made [url]" and skip the fizzbuzz stuff < 1336291201 644890 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ended up buying a lot of stylish furniture for the office < 1336291214 379435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you program assembly languages codes you should learn the effect of the instructions. < 1336291214 869704 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: for bonus points, make the url fizzbuzz < 1336291220 829882 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yes < 1336291232 752762 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be sure to put up a gratuitous implementation of fizzbuzz too < 1336291235 107871 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but... i don't like the fact that theres no shortcuts < 1336291252 69373 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a version in AVR assembly which uses self-modifying code < 1336291274 319265 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't side-effects be friendly ... < 1336291275 508324 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fpga < 1336291281 51785 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336291285 997993 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but write it in verilog, not vhdl < 1336291318 182549 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336291345 624859 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, a board made with wire wrapped 7400 series DIP quad NAND gates < 1336291383 109492 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dip is for pussies, you want to do bga with a toaster < 1336291383 327202 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of want to build a relay computer < 1336291388 302181 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you don't < 1336291389 872531 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i can get cheap relays somewhere < 1336291394 325129 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Have you ever been asked actual fizzbuzz-style interview questions? < 1336291405 33256 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's mostly a myth. < 1336291411 825660 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1336291420 439546 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc applies for jobs much finer than i < 1336291444 415204 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the closest i got was "implement fib(n) recursively, then iteratively, and write the time complexity of each" < 1336291450 573221 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ < 1336291456 867383 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first part of which is fizzbuzz level < 1336291507 806720 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i get the stable boy jobs < 1336291532 12836 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the finance company we had a written programming test which everyone got as the first thing in the day < 1336291538 246039 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this was the first question < 1336291576 952223 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it the idea of a Big Swinging Dick < 1336291577 424051 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"write this recursively" seems like a strange thing to say, as opposed to "write this". < 1336291589 567762 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336291592 389711 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: Liar's Poker? < 1336291612 97797 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're adept < 1336291623 4905 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah after i accepted the job, they sent me a copy of that book < 1336291638 656843 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"efficiently" is a reasonable constraint, I guess, but "do this recursively and iteratively" seems dangerously close to a game of "guess what I'm thinking". < 1336291640 841236 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they stick "training manual" on the front cover < 1336291646 499964 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336291655 250639 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you finish it < 1336291660 91764 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336291672 913385 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the best small companies try to hire through personal connections < 1336291683 68527 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they hire through python.org/jobs < 1336291686 363094 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they know everyone coming in can at least pass fizzbuzz < 1336291690 889130 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't scale so well < 1336291699 611898 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think so then you've never relied on friends for doing a job < 1336291706 280282 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you end up severely disappointed < 1336291719 131399 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you hope each person you get expands your network a bit < 1336291738 802526 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone at ksplice has pretty much the same friends and so this didn't really work < 1336291746 509988 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do, but the people working for you are for a reason not the people hiring newcomers < 1336291752 888745 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because they don't know how to < 1336291755 997095 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they hired like the entire MIT computing club as interns < 1336291764 898932 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a shortcut anyway. < 1336291767 892475 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this guy they'll rave about, he's just as likely to be good as he is to be weak < 1336291785 530821 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1336291787 789851 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't get more information from it than you would from asking some write-code-which-also-happens-to-be-interesting question, you just get it faster. < 1336291787 925790 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain? < 1336291799 484050 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's true < 1336291808 884372 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it works in places with very strong compsci communities < 1336291809 60943 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in usual places < 1336291809 160517 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the usual run of the mill digital carpenters < 1336291839 25741 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually we moved to an online programming test which they could take before even the phone screen < 1336291864 335909 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1336291864 497850 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1336291869 501087 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which theoretically saved a lot of time by going asynchronous < 1336291882 934270 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a place where people see computer programming as just a job, they'll be less likely to form connections based on the quality of someone's understanding < 1336291888 953485 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pecking order is decided by other things < 1336291896 610532 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can easily cheat on an online test, but it only wastes their time and ours < 1336291913 973946 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a place like a good university everyone will be looking up to the best h5x4rz < 1336291926 711946 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :h sexars < 1336291935 108848 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: If your plan is to cheat your way through the whole thing somehow, you'll probably start with the online test. < 1336291939 588931 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Joy of joys" now I'm getting junk SMS < 1336291942 680892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hsex is like sex but better because it's in haskell < 1336291948 735976 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: true < 1336291959 451982 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worse, it's phishing junk SMS. < 1336291970 676687 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From shady-ass companies apparently in Panama < 1336291981 416054 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, at least you can pretend to have friends! < 1336291983 690676 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: WAL-MART CUSTOMER: U have won a free $100 gift card! < 1336291997 943992 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of U < 1336291998 658748 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: BESTBUY, actually. < 1336292001 109539 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get going < 1336292034 232733 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And another one saying "we are giving away free overstock iPad 2's" < 1336292043 327464 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was nice chatting with you all, pikhq_ shachaf and itidus21 and kmc and Taneb and zzo38 < 1336292055 56080 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice chatting with you cheater__ < 1336292064 973796 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should definitely arrange a repeat < 1336292071 195454 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know where to find me :) < 1336292071 803484 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have my PA call your PA < 1336292085 608084 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders where to find kmc < 1336292098 365864 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Mid-Cambridge, obviously < 1336292103 41215 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye, cheater__ < 1336292105 930930 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :berkeley basement dungeons < 1336292114 297340 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1336292129 332468 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice place, Mid-Cambridge. < 1336292157 252776 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should move there. < 1336292206 510729 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could work for Ksploracle < 1336292212 378390 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ITAoogle < 1336292226 15098 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought big companies were evil. < 1336292239 317207 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Akamanotboughtbygooglejustyet < 1336292251 317710 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336292253 46340 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did the company interview ever ask you questions, such as, how much garlic do you put in your tomato sauce? < 1336292260 181141 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not i < 1336292266 368487 :lexande!~lexande@lenin.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336292270 490677 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande! < 1336292272 751453 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexande < 1336292285 105276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, how many different colors of socks do you own? < 1336292287 468777 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :octande < 1336292326 717433 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my socks are gray/grey and need to be washed < 1336292354 641461 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How much garlic do you put in your tomato sauce? < 1336292385 246158 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did I tell you about my idea for a disruptive mobile social local web application platform? < 1336292389 501003 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called SockSwap < 1336292411 684077 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you figure out a way to make a non-reverse-engineerable lock yet? < 1336292413 513618 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, everyone has different sorts of socks, sometimes an odd number of one kind < 1336292431 887706 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you photograph your sock drawer using our iPhone™ app < 1336292445 282474 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it maches you with other people in your area who also have one of that kind of sock < 1336292463 432323 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which provides a platform for social engagement (coffee, fucking, founding of web startups) < 1336292469 8457 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I saw a Vietnamese soup place called iPho. < 1336292472 119179 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All my socks are white with dark blue/black on the heels, toes, and with bands at the top < 1336292473 648122 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1336292475 271773 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except the 'o' was an almost-Apple-logo. < 1336292475 856450 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: really? < 1336292478 333797 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336292489 911300 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336292499 587353 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it weird that I find it satisfying to report shit like that to the FCC? < 1336292522 600515 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FCC? < 1336292526 596298 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Downtown Mountain View has a frozen yogurt shop called "yoogl". < 1336292528 683780 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not, like USPTO? < 1336292543 28210 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It used to have Google-colored-and-fonted letters. < 1336292548 963250 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They changed that at one point, though. < 1336292558 461569 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Junk text messages and cell phone telemarketing. < 1336292564 556223 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336292568 476620 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Can you report mine too? < 1336292570 387314 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://s3-media1.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/gVdl2TZJWcDEJj2yvLjAgw/l.jpg < 1336292576 657837 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: oh, I thought you meant iPho < 1336292578 286959 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thikhq_ in advance. < 1336292592 933689 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yep, that was the logo. < 1336292600 872595 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complete violation of FCC regulations, and companies that do it and get caught (i.e. reported) get fined obscene amounts. < 1336292602 305828 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what other restaurants can be named this way < 1336292725 545478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How well do you know category theory and other mathematical things? < 1336292736 855547 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facebok choy < 1336292739 57509 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty weak < 1336292791 255138 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bing Crab < 1336292821 718593 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kiwikipedia < 1336292831 491582 :lexande!~lexande@lenin.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipad thai < 1336292847 964711 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blexande < 1336292873 643603 :lexande!~lexande@lenin.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me? < 1336292883 764359 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instagram crackers < 1336292901 646556 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bless you, lexande < 1336292949 457380 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple pie < 1336292968 383658 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Blants. < 1336293253 914435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I make company, it is private so that nobody can purchase it and then mix it up too much < 1336294446 652490 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to write a file for Internet Quiz Engine? (The documentation says that certain commands can only be used in certain areas, but this isn't precisely correct. Any command can be used in any area, although they won't necessarily do what you expect.) < 1336294539 944909 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336294782 452392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, the ? = ; commands are actually all equivalent, except that ? accepts an optional skip condition based on the answer to the previous question, and neither ? nor = will be skipped in a false conditional. < 1336295411 237000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336295434 282796 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336296252 841406 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel awful < 1336296255 232607 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336296959 183144 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.185.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336297007 360987 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1336297344 690714 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :( < 1336297347 340186 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why / how? < 1336297425 202306 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tired and hungry < 1336297441 485565 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm tired I don't feel like eating, and because I'm hungry I can't sleep < 1336297721 688176 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336297722 791751 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that blows < 1336298450 991188 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336298809 307035 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336299022 263333 :cheater__!~cheater@g229021225.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336299145 819329 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-125-146.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1336299522 354431 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-125-146.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336300589 537510 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-122-250.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336300785 475850 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-125-146.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336301836 603540 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.185.170 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1336303879 508880 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.185.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336304538 198753 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336304880 309431 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.185.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336305884 236185 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-35.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336305887 237892 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-201.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336307718 991353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336307832 341028 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, do C++ compilers have a special rule to treat "main" as extern "C"? < 1336307888 809226 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336307917 245672 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or to emit a separate main function which calls the C++ main, or whatever. < 1336307942 541877 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"main" isn't the actual entry point < 1336307950 629638 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336307955 99113 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a c++ program starts with c++ main, exactly how that happens is unspecified magic afaik < 1336307965 191019 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the C++ runtime library could arrange to call a C++ name-mangled main < 1336307968 388446 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The entry point does initialization and teardown before calling your name() < 1336307972 374351 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not how g++ does it apparently < 1336307978 957936 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, teardown comes after obviously < 1336307996 347791 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC gcc likes to generate the entry point as _start or something < 1336308006 116526 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That stuff could be added to your main() instead of being in a separate entry point. < 1336308008 772740 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well gcc doesn't generate _start < 1336308012 879962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's part of the C runtime library < 1336308025 672736 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well fine "the gnu tools" < 1336308034 16823 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combined < 1336308060 735103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: main isn't allowed to be recursive in C++, partly because of this sort of thing < 1336308062 626241 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C runtime library and/or libc < 1336308066 955134 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: interesting < 1336308192 257550 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if main were the entry point, returning from main would not work < 1336308194 567500 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least on Linux < 1336308261 808290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would work on DOS < 1336308274 484817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack starts out with a 0 on it, and there's an exit instruction at memory location 0, with .com files < 1336308308 458536 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1336308329 502313 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compilers could emit the appropriate exit code in place of returns from main. < 1336308345 226103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: another reason to make it not recursive < 1336308347 606240 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: but then you wouldn't be able to call main from elsewhere < 1336308354 786975 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is allowed in C? < 1336308360 232649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it is, but not in C++ < 1336308361 773900 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if it's allowed actually < 1336308363 966366 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336308370 952553 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't seen it done except in IOCCC entries < 1336308382 991380 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm sure there is "legitimate" code somewhere that does it < 1336308389 795850 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably to re-enter the options parser < 1336308422 194779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it'd be really bad style, you should just use a wrapper function for that < 1336308422 373814 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is C++ code at google which is like void Foo::reset() { this->~Foo(); new (this) Foo; } < 1336308425 875710 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anything's possible < 1336308443 533862 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, it's really bad style, but I'm sure someone has done it and thought themselves quite clever for it < 1336308462 515401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, that code is just a bizarre way to call the destructor then constructor, isn't it? < 1336308468 560828 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336308508 580741 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no C++ language lawyer but I'm pretty sure it's allowed (maybe not if reset is virtual) < 1336308518 745884 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it's bizarre < 1336308529 913205 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uses a couple of C++ features that many professional C++ programmers don't know about < 1336308541 174144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if reset is virtual and the destructor is not virtual, you'd be asking for trouble < 1336308550 409005 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336308566 556513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can only see one rarely known feature there (placement new) < 1336308572 734778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the other one? calling a destructor manually? < 1336308576 589698 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336308586 924149 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess even if you aren't aware this can be done, the syntax is what you expect < 1336308588 353314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a function, I don't see why you /couldn't/ do that < 1336308593 788662 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336308605 769951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's nontrivial to parse, there are larger issues in C++ parsing < 1336308615 401297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(did you know that C++ 11 allows you to use >> to close two < brackets?) < 1336308621 673755 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336308638 414236 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that there are valid C++03 programs which are still valid under this rule but behave differently? < 1336308640 408385 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :154702 kmc there is C++ code at google which is like void Foo::reset() { this->~Foo(); new (this) Foo; } < 1336308646 993698 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, don't fucking use that < 1336308647 875577 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336308664 786716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no, that's hilarious; what does it use to hide the > > from the C++11 version? < 1336308694 136502 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an example in http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2005/n1757.html < 1336308700 990023 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :std::cout << (Y>::c >::c>::c) << '\n'; < 1336308722 873042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hmm, the syntax for placement new is really weird, you'd think this->Foo() would be more natural < 1336308737 903469 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of weird too < 1336308739 172980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because placement new is not the opposite of any sort of delete, it just calls the constructor with an arbitrary pointer < 1336308742 43247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it'd need a cast < 1336308759 520214 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're calling a method on something that isn't yet a valid pointer to an object of that type < 1336308766 921547 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can overload operator new with any argument type you like < 1336308767 281174 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if c++ allows mysterious invisible dependencies on this that make destroying this illegal even if you don't use this in the source before reconstructing < 1336308778 565528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if it's not a virtual method, there's clearly no intrinsic problem with that at all < 1336308808 554909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a nonvirtual method foo and a variable obj of type Obj, obj->foo(x,y) compiles to Obj::foo(obj,x,y) < 1336308816 506214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no difference between this and any of the other arguments < 1336308825 368019 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pool pool; new (pool) Foo; < 1336308835 290365 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes a lot more sense syntactiaclyl than pool->Foo(); < 1336308854 988642 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say if your compiler copies all code from the class into constructed objects, and clears out the code when destroying an object < 1336308855 518194 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's an implementation detail, in a sense < 1336308870 677798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: right, but it may be one that's implied by the language < 1336308873 673928 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree that usually you can call ((Foo*) 0)->bar() if bar is a non-virtual method < 1336308893 565008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the stack in C (auto variables in C have stack-like semantics, so even if you're not storing them on a stack, you have to store them on something that works like a stack) < 1336308906 510428 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you know ((Foo*) malloc(sizeof(Foo)))->bar() < 1336308910 950661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the standard require this to be non-null in a cal? < 1336308914 892350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*call < 1336308921 580157 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think that's a reasonable syntax for placement new < 1336308927 103550 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it violates expectations < 1336308931 756018 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be hardly the first C++ feature to do so < 1336308944 677856 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: don't know < 1336308947 99767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, to me placement new violates expressions, because I expect new, in some sense, to be the opposite of delete < 1336308953 590514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and placement new isn't the opposite of anything < 1336308958 921128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*violates expectations < 1336308968 788670 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can overload operator delete as well < 1336308982 484136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and operator new, can't you? < 1336308984 129315 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're implementing a memory pool, you would do both < 1336309006 428146 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except nobody knows about this feature or can be bothered to use it < 1336309008 48960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only a memory pool for a specific class < 1336309018 668207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably not the most common application < 1336309018 814720 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, the overload returns a void* < 1336309034 983277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, you could overload it outside a class < 1336309042 161638 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/new/memory-pools.html < 1336309062 804117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even overloading it within a class makes sense when you're taking an allocator as an argument to the constructor, I guess < 1336309078 862295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen an STL that does that (not sure if it was /the/ STL or some third-party one) < 1336309163 41677 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some calling conventions pass "this" in a special way < 1336309181 961139 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the default calling convention in Visual C++ in fact < 1336309231 722617 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on x86, 'this' is passed in ECX and all other arguments are on the stack < 1336309248 647203 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if there's a rationale or if someone at microsoft was just hitting the crackpipe particularly hard that day < 1336309331 201475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally if passing arguments in registers, you have to come up with some complicated rule for deciding what goes where in all possible circumstances < 1336309337 477292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this always goes in ECX" is a pretty simple rule < 1336309342 750351 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by "/the/ STL" you mean SGI's reference implementation? < 1336309365 753322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I was referring to APIs, so I mean the API specified by the standard < 1336309370 319345 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336309387 982384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether or not constructors can take allocators as argument is definitely an API issue < 1336309391 943386 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STL containers usually take an optional template argument specifying the allocator to use < 1336309655 738892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the idea in thiscall is that methods frequently invoke other methods on the same object < 1336309664 226455 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :often without doing much additional work < 1336309918 858005 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there any reason you couldn't store C function activation records in a garbage-collected heap? < 1336309947 846554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no, but it would have to have stack semantics, for determining what copy of the variable to look at < 1336309978 492710 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing forcing it to /be/ a stack, it just has to /act like/ a stack < 1336309987 854421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that it's usable as a stack < 1336310028 823 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :many things are < 1336310062 268690 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for determining what copy of the variable to look at, you just have a register that points to the current activation frame < 1336310072 327611 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can CPS transform so that you never need to restore old values of that register < 1336310082 658010 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing this for C is probably unreasonable, but is possible < 1336310113 107240 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree this is usable as a stack < 1336310125 473117 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is a heap-allocated linked list, or a heap-allocated church-encoded linked list :) < 1336310295 332476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I entirely agree that a heap-allocated church-encoded linked list could be used for C auto variables < 1336310302 99972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I would /still/ say that it's a stack < 1336310311 894087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a stack implemented in terms of an array, but it's still a stack < 1336310509 417783 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other day I saw a bird that looks like a duck and quacks like a duck but isn't a duck < 1336310586 360640 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was a loon < 1336310629 822992 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you take 2 arbitrary measurements of thing X, and they match type Y, then thing X must be type Y < 1336310659 854474 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i apologize for the mistakes. < 1336310661 92708 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but how did you know it was not a duck, if it did everything like a duck? < 1336310676 148291 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because someone who knows more about birds than I told me so < 1336310690 39779 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have asked for more proof < 1336310698 21535 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it quacks like a duck but not *exactly* like a duck < 1336310701 704613 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as duck dna? < 1336310705 567576 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the duck is in the details < 1336310754 183945 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBC: 'A "supermoon", bigger and brighter than usual, is seen in the night sky as it comes closer to the Earth' < 1336310766 211506 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much closer? < 1336310768 27015 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a really alarming headline if you assume that scientists have no idea why it happened < 1336310805 736822 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: over 9000 feet < 1336310805 928761 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if i wasn't already alarmed by things < 1336310807 693479 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1336310885 941351 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, 9000? < 1336310901 248074 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats no moon < 1336310909 848796 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a space station < 1336310909 998088 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21++ < 1336310945 901968 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty ty < 1336310948 34086 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no dark side of the moon really < 1336310948 212176 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone remind me the workaround for the /top tab-completion bug in irssi < 1336310952 644361 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :matter of fact it's all dark < 1336311043 501602 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a conspiracy theory lab, in a suburb far far away < 1336311061 780829 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plans are made about what the reptiles have dubbed the supermoon < 1336311107 650990 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1336311976 476365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336312605 168779 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336312640 597539 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck yeah! Got sasl to work after disabling DH-BLOWFISH < 1336313022 259313 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastefirtunes < 1336313031 741569 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastefirtunes: not found < 1336313037 806371 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastefortunes < 1336313044 725192 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14206 < 1336313122 412035 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i clicked the link and i didnt get any tunes :/ < 1336313130 430462 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i even went and pasted it < 1336313136 136209 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :still no tunes appeared < 1336313141 412957 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid hackego < 1336313151 187875 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: paste fortunes < 1336313194 457366 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: paste for tunes -______- < 1336313220 684670 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: so it takes paste and gives you tunes? < 1336313228 288913 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336313235 172317 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but thatd be great < 1336313256 57676 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or other way around < 1336313289 624473 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thatd be stupid < 1336313365 334494 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastefortunes < 1336313371 51342 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20091 < 1336313526 750401 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336313659 164365 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336313762 752159 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what kind of daemon is thatd? < 1336313946 149348 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336314078 526032 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give rep+ to the first one to decipher what this piece of python code does (lambda x: (lambda s,(x,y): ([(x[0],y[0])]+s(s,(x[1:],y[1:]))) if len(y)>0 else [])((lambda s,(x,y): ([(x[0],y[0])]+s(s,(x[1:],y[1:]))) if len(y)>0 else []),(x,x[1:]))) < 1336314113 844491 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like zip < 1336314153 632058 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zip`ap`tail < 1336314175 362416 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zip`ap`tail? < 1336314183 570539 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (zip`ap`tail) [1..10] < 1336314184 306075 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(1,2),(2,3),(3,4),(4,5),(5,6),(6,7),(7,8),(8,9),(9,10)] < 1336314196 878043 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?quote aztec < 1336314197 12574 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quicksilver says: zip`ap`tail - the Aztec god of consecutive numbers < 1336314207 762295 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@rep+ Deewiant < 1336314207 892409 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `dummy' failed with: Prelude.read: no parse < 1336314220 173599 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@rep < 1336314220 305024 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :() < 1336314226 366102 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@rep nortti < 1336314226 494963 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti < 1336314237 271127 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma nortti < 1336314237 434229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti has a karma of 1 < 1336314244 595644 :impomatic!~digital_w@37.152.201.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336314247 583967 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ Deewiant < 1336314247 715493 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant's karma raised to 2. < 1336314350 176481 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: is zip`ap`tail builtin in haskell? < 1336314356 257645 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?ty zip < 1336314357 21853 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b. [a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)] < 1336314358 423063 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?ty ap < 1336314359 231321 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (m :: * -> *) a b. (Monad m) => m (a -> b) -> m a -> m b < 1336314359 852873 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?ty tail < 1336314360 594976 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. [a] -> [a] < 1336314395 754278 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only "builtin" part of that is the syntax, zip`ap`tail means ap zip tail < 1336314453 782632 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which means ap(zip,tail) or rather (ap(zip))(tail) in a language with C-style function call syntax.) < 1336314544 317856 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?ty ap :: (c -> a -> b) -> (c -> a) -> (c -> b) -- the relevant Monad instance expanded < 1336314545 14332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall c a b. (c -> a -> b) -> (c -> a) -> c -> b < 1336315304 706242 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336315309 302211 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello guys < 1336315826 437835 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma AnotherTest < 1336315826 568681 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest has a karma of 0 < 1336315834 234899 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ AnotherTest < 1336315834 468575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest's karma raised to 1. < 1336315840 261142 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- AnotherTest < 1336315840 477792 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest's karma lowered to 0. < 1336317166 455890 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336317182 774333 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma nortti < 1336317182 906172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti has a karma of 1 < 1336317187 497757 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. < 1336317199 78931 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma itidus21 < 1336317199 231580 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 has a karma of 1 < 1336317216 50478 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: what about my karma < 1336317237 603803 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no reason < 1336318594 234208 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336318607 435976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336318626 147160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:56:37: what language would you propose as an alternative? < 1336318626 327266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:56:44: to C++? C < 1336318626 345691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:57:13: well, it really depends on what you're using it for < 1336318627 710994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:57:14: Not really an alternative. < 1336318629 716159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:57:31: since C doesn't even check types < 1336318631 711881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:57:43: and also, it doesn't allow for user defined types < 1336318633 708243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're high < 1336318684 854114 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant user-defined types that have member functions < 1336318696 987223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has those, too < 1336318698 970456 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and C doesn't check types [properly] < 1336318702 561167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it does < 1336318705 490228 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: why is your nick AnotherTest < 1336318707 873459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as much as C++ does < 1336318709 747788 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. < 1336318719 838173 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is yours nortti? < 1336318723 342886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are minor differences in terms of const, and C++ has a safer version of casting < 1336318732 165775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's it < 1336318741 499242 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: let's first clarify which version of C we are talking about < 1336318747 865555 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANSI? < 1336318749 283730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C89, C99, doesn't matter one bit < 1336318757 35114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically applies to K&R too, if anyone still used it < 1336318759 418592 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Around a year ago you were going to hack some pty-related stuff into tup, but I'm not getting coloured output from clang, what's up! < 1336318761 295820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, C11 is out too < 1336318763 842059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C11 too! < 1336318773 40551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I was? < 1336318773 877927 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, define a type in C that has a member function? < 1336318787 298316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct type_in_c { void (*member_function)(int); }; < 1336318789 383430 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: https://groups.google.com/group/tup-users/msg/b303970d79ed6edc < 1336318803 350487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: :( < 1336318805 849685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Stupid archiving. < 1336318808 471149 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I used nick nörtti in ohjelmointiputka.net but when I tried using it on ircnet when I wanted to join #ohjelmointiputka my own irc client crashed < 1336318818 176578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I didn't do it, ask tup-users if anything's happened. :p < 1336318828 727184 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Presumably not :-P < 1336318830 318872 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I used nortti and it just stuck < 1336318842 279816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ISTR *something* happening along those lines. < 1336318874 565759 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti ah I see < 1336318894 660338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336318901 290264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wat: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=BAM128&curid=3491&diff=32356&oldid=30896 < 1336318921 35506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1336318924 618896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1336318925 247820 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can't be bothered to ask, I'm just putting 'CC = clang -fcolor-diagnostics' in my Tupfile < 1336318942 604786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yeah, I think that might have been the solution. Or maybe I'm thinking of ninja. < 1336318945 401794 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it consists of? < 1336318955 977611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: looks like a test edit, more than anything else < 1336318957 580767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: What? < 1336318961 720141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or someone who doesn't understand English and thinks they do < 1336318964 544196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just rolled it back < 1336318979 725830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to revert it with a meaningful edit summary, but I suppose that works too :p < 1336318993 813528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it's someone trying to fix the grammar, except they're not any good at it < 1336318995 231190 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It happened in ninja, at least (its bug report is the top Google result I've run into a couple of times now when wondering whether tup does it) < 1336319002 349052 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Should I use ninja? < 1336319002 808833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Right. < 1336319008 19333 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I just noticed the edition, found I a little weird < 1336319012 620249 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*editing < 1336319018 121985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1336319026 33861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I dunno. I'd stick with tup. < 1336319032 852447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: With ninja, you need to write a script to generate your build script. < 1336319043 568331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually in Python, since they have an outputting library for it. < 1336319061 331997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of yucky. Good for things like Chrome where you need MAXIMUM SPEED and the build rules don't change often, since that's what it was designed for. < 1336319063 110908 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I asked you because you're the "DO THE ARROWS GO UPWARDS" guy when it comes to build systems < 1336319072 858126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ninja's arrows do go upwards, though, yes. < 1336319083 859441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ninja supports multiple output files, which is what got me interested in it in the first place (for Haskell). < 1336319088 89198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a patch in ninja! < 1336319120 599755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'd just stick with tup though. Especially since variants are coming. < 1336319130 764146 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the most minimal programming language existing? < 1336319140 889007 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in minimal typing to do a certain task) < 1336319158 118359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: That is not really a meaningful question. < 1336319166 133979 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1336319170 225200 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me attempt to refine < 1336319185 32336 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? MIT Scheme says (eval '(+ 1 1)) is invalid < 1336319188 928359 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm I'll fail < 1336319192 35726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: It is. < 1336319196 509984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to pass an environment too. < 1336319206 580145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if I find a website that puts an in an URL and later omits a _ from the same URL, what should I assume? broken parser for a Markdown-like language? < 1336319214 414185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the was replacing a _) < 1336319223 544718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes. < 1336319224 248560 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: repl.it didn't require that < 1336319229 673486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Then repl.it is broken. < 1336319237 26184 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That reminds me: re. variants, the thread on them currently ends with Mike asking for your thoughts. < 1336319238 36017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, rather, has some implementation-specific extension. < 1336319241 353127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consult R5RS. < 1336319247 502124 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why is it not meaningful? < 1336319251 381205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, I have that email set as unread so I can reply to it. < 1336319259 156381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Because "a given task" is pretty vague. < 1336319265 86661 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I see < 1336319265 402771 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Alright, just checking. < 1336319277 541917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wrote that before your parenthical; I interpreted "minimal" very differently beforehand, which kinda proved my point :P) < 1336319286 496091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I guess I'll do it now, since you've prodded me. < 1336319291 749990 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336319298 787225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also need to reply to Conor McBride :( < 1336319360 459970 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you'd e-mail less, you'd have to reply less. < 1336319380 2918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hardly email at all! < 1336319381 462435 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :which language allows the shortest implementation for an algorithm that solves the traveling-salesmen problem using a brute-fore approach without it being a built-in feature? < 1336319386 622663 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(better?) < 1336319400 226120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Anyway, that's not strictly true. < 1336319415 338056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Define "built-in feature"... I could split the algorithm into two parts and give those one instruction each. < 1336319449 663189 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He probably means "existing language". < 1336319449 844536 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :existing language anyway, I doubt any language has such a feature so just drop that last part < 1336319468 669417 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also < 1336319474 12299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That question is still probably impossible to answer, since you don't know what the shortest program for the task in any given language is. < 1336319476 832444 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you know what I mean < 1336319477 741402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*don't (can't) < 1336319480 620975 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just anwser < 1336319488 102575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: It is not possible to answer. < 1336319493 571008 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubt it. < 1336319500 250742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Very well, you answer it then. < 1336319501 712657 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's not possible for you. < 1336319516 42516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see you're still suffering from Dunning-Kruger. < 1336319517 954269 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ask the question; it is thus only logical that I do not know the answer < 1336319538 602346 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it's possible, just prove a minimum length in each language and then enumerate all programs up to that length. < 1336319551 185548 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, maybe the proof isn't so easy.) < 1336319566 265205 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's not start about the physics guy who wasn't a physics guy again < 1336319567 828889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: FSVO enumerate that involves a human-written proof at each step. < 1336319580 161420 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's still clear that you suffer autism < 1336319584 804448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336319587 128429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go away already. < 1336319601 631150 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thanks < 1336319606 246585 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm free to come here < 1336319607 312682 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not at each step, only for each language. < 1336319612 529206 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. before the enumeration. < 1336319649 449610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: please don't insult people like that < 1336319655 58898 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try not to < 1336319658 429712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You failed. < 1336319663 796290 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct. < 1336319667 389610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you really did try, you'd apologise afterwards.) < 1336319684 209803 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no, because you sort of insulted me to < 1336319686 366572 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*too < 1336319695 562942 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to make a habit of that every time I visit < 1336319704 971177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've only been here twice. < 1336319708 438878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, whatever. < 1336319712 226692 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I have < 1336319721 988161 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but does that mean it can't be a habit? < 1336319723 294869 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336319765 263829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The judge and attorneys have to question the child to determine the communication skills of the child and also question to determine if the child understands the difference between true and false, and will tell the truth." < 1336319777 649842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't they do that with /adults/? < 1336319792 679192 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the judge and attorneys are adults. < 1336319854 587785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about witnesses < 1336319867 815520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they get them to swear oaths, but I'm not sure everyone has respect for oaths < 1336319873 248889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336319890 246895 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336319895 944900 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1336319895 963472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336319900 275665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye ais523. Hi ais523. Bye ais523. Hi ais523. < 1336319905 625798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, Unity has increased Konversation's capacity for bizarre typos quite a bit < 1336319917 765514 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah unity < 1336319920 813739 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't like it < 1336319921 865361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both in opportunities, and bizarreness < 1336319926 330221 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I don't use I guess < 1336319948 573264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was alt-nothing r, rather than alt-t r < 1336319948 852071 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're on ubuntu? < 1336319954 363415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336319961 797800 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :11.*? < 1336319963 674813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually rather like unity, but some of the keybindings are unfortunate < 1336319966 149383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12.04 < 1336319969 70801 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336319975 133259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if I can change them? < 1336319979 275045 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336319985 965345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loads up compizconfig < 1336319990 922281 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible to pick a custom keyboard layout I think < 1336319999 912825 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike unity. All the bloat and inteface is horrible < 1336320000 798083 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well at least I did it once in 10.04 < 1336320019 869142 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with nortti, my computer can't handle it properly < 1336320028 802733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was easy < 1336320043 781634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I have super-space rather than just super, and alt-super-space rather than just alt < 1336320052 751350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have done that earlier < 1336320060 671022 :impomatic!~digital_w@37.152.201.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336320075 661396 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: do you know my computer's specs? < 1336320079 645874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: unity, bloated? that doesn't fit my view of it < 1336320085 249318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems more primitive than bloated < 1336320091 145824 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Unfortunately not < 1336320104 520119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I consider bloat a statement about features rather than load < 1336320113 527863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's putting too much load on a system, that's simply a bug < 1336320117 3172 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: really, with the menu that constantly flops in and out? < 1336320127 753188 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Thinkpad T20 with 700MHz Pentium III and 64MB of RAM < 1336320177 367431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: that's no longer the default optoin < 1336320179 469016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*option < 1336320183 445194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have it up constantly < 1336320184 724936 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336320191 658081 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least they made a good choice there < 1336320195 376645 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: define too much load. Using that logic almost all new software is filled with bugs :p < 1336320208 880357 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on my system at least) < 1336320219 614875 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1336320253 521844 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I'm on an Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.53GHz with 1002.4MiB RAM < 1336320276 923988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: substantially more than would be reasonably expected for what the software actually does < 1336320312 816646 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to stay with 10.04 < 1336320320 812192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That doesn't work if you have unreasonable expectations. < 1336320323 837790 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: try lubuntu < 1336320325 533690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: indeed < 1336320343 518074 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I might, also, xubuntu; is that notable? < 1336320354 497861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: only 1G? although that should be easily enough for almost anything, sadly programs rarely assume that any more < 1336320358 920336 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: almost as slow as ubuntu < 1336320364 101870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 1002.4 is not 1024, that's an interesting decision… < 1336320377 430059 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :he should have said 1GiB < 1336320379 701983 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1336320390 504317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: no, 1 GiB = 1024 MiB < 1336320394 686817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gio, if you want to be pedantic. < 1336320397 931793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1002.4MiB != 1024MiB < 1336320398 315147 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I switch them around < 1336320399 867104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: indeed < 1336320419 212570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even one megabel is enough sound intensity to destroy the Earth < 1336320425 713946 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, on this machine just 1G < 1336320432 975477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably even one kilobel, come to think of it < 1336320437 646086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's not really "sadly". There's no point devoting time and effort to minimising memory footprint if everybody has more. With that kind of argument, everyone should code like we're using Altair 8800s. < 1336320443 580184 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it enough < 1336320456 851522 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where "o" is an abbreviation for "octet" I think I invented and almost nobody will understand, so be careful about where you use it.) < 1336320459 900972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, programs still take a noticeable amount of time to load and execute < 1336320467 353516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I've seen it elsewhere < 1336320476 87091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, at least < 1336320476 195481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's useful for pedantry and also arguing with pedants! < 1336320486 247156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That's mostly unrelated to RAM. < 1336320489 545361 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sure, but not for much else. :-) < 1336320491 951302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Disk is a huge factor in that. < 1336320497 781024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, indeed < 1336320500 168888 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: indeed < 1336320509 18168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you get an SSD you'll notice everything go noticeably faster; if you run from a RAMdisk, even faster. < 1336320513 183258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*RAM disk < 1336320513 201446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder how long it takes to fill a 1GiB array with consecutive integers? < 1336320526 948203 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :would depend of the memory access? < 1336320533 65918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Faster if you use SSE ;) < 1336320535 862282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask Vorpal. < 1336320539 295831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't check, only have 927MB free < 1336320542 737620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's the filling-big-arrays-unreasonably-fast guy. < 1336320547 252087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*cough* cfunge) < 1336320548 270139 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well even I assume that my system has at least 2MB of RAM and I try to minimize memory footprint < 1336320556 90872 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: elliott picked it up from my web site and may have spread it around, at least. < 1336320561 301990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I haven't. < 1336320562 424236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: do you know how long it takes to fill a 1GiB array with consecutive integers? < 1336320566 892072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But I have seen it elsewhere too, I think. < 1336320582 311702 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, you've used it here at least a couple of times, which kinda counts. < 1336320592 398404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is the terminology propagation centre of the world. < 1336320626 859628 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the "Dragon Book" still up-to-date? < 1336320634 868331 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard people saying it's not. < 1336320641 484091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on your definition of "up-to-date". < 1336320643 639133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a quick websearch implies that both "Mio" and "mebioctet" are in Christian Biere's signature < 1336320645 871203 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would suck because I orded it < 1336320653 699813 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ordered < 1336320656 571395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey doesn't like it and recommends something else instead. < 1336320671 952953 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :up-to-date := useful nowadays < 1336320683 8252 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I'd say so < 1336320690 747680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Who's Christian Biere? < 1336320690 863914 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays := today < 1336320699 160966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have no idea < 1336320699 659537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : someone who has both "Mio" and "mebioctet" in their signature < 1336320700 432650 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :today := 06/05/2012 < 1336320700 450981 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: At least from what I have heard < 1336320708 882462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: You misspelled 2012-05-06. < 1336320711 126710 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did try finding out, but apparently they're just some random person < 1336320712 675539 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1336320720 625043 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I live In belgium < 1336320725 61448 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :we write it like that here < 1336320738 805781 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it is 6.5.2012 < 1336320746 828699 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the English language prescribes a correct notation for dates < 1336320769 234567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO does! I think they need a militia to enforce their standards. < 1336320815 408493 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ISO, they'd better bother with Javascript < 1336320843 778429 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is ISO standard yyyy-mm-dd? < 1336320859 973308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. (It's more involved than that, but yes.) < 1336320875 142905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it's not quite perfect, since the full yyyy-mm-ddThh:mm:ss format is ugly because of the T. < 1336320876 627536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyyy-mm-ddThh:mm:ss then a letter for the timezone, typically Z for UTC < 1336320883 36634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's more involved than that. < 1336320883 376002 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's discrimination elliott < 1336320889 460381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: What? < 1336320901 394578 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's assuming the culture of everyone has the Christian religion < 1336320910 793042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is discrimination, exactly? < 1336320916 409676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: people mostly use the Gregorian date system whether Christian or not < 1336320935 269867 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: true, I was just teasing elliott < 1336320938 471188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, ddate isn't in the coreutils package any more < 1336320946 701473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/easing/rolling/ < 1336320947 54440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even in the repositories, under that name at least < 1336320952 292612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hey, those are both words.) < 1336320967 243472 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :define "trolling" < 1336320976 992283 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: rolling with a t in front of it < 1336320978 799249 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Can you find a reference older than 2009-07-05? < 1336320980 299498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in the repositories under any name < 1336320984 582130 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is rolling exactly? < 1336320994 629592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: the gerund form of "roll" < 1336320999 604266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it < 1336321005 743731 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is roll, exactly? < 1336321012 238693 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, present participle of "roll" < 1336321020 575274 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so you're an empiricist, elliott? < 1336321040 89221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/roll#Verb < 1336321056 317165 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks, that's what I call some definiton < 1336321062 711863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I didn't realize it had 27 different meanings < 1336321070 160686 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but oh wait < 1336321074 446481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :27. (transitive) This word needs a definition. Please help out and add a definition, then remove the text {{rfdef}}.  [quotations ▼] < 1336321079 247081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, wiktionary! < 1336321080 630632 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly is a definition? < 1336321109 243564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: you probably have enough information to find out yourself < 1336321113 137309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you even know the answer already! < 1336321124 911329 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but how can that information be trusted? < 1336321144 258262 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose the defintion of defintion would be wrong? < 1336321152 657455 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I suppose that's impossible. < 1336321164 714178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: eventually, sooner or later, you have to trust something or someone < 1336321167 913022 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then the definition of wrong would be wrong :(. < 1336321176 77035 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1336321181 709715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not irony < 1336321187 63442 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1336321188 186582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, maybe it is < 1336321200 271330 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it all depends on the defintion < 1336321202 670148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if a dictionary did misdefine "wrong", that would indeed be ironic < 1336321203 284011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably nothing is ironic, considering how much people say isn't < 1336321209 245460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it was done by mistake < 1336321216 335094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but if the definition of wrong is itself wrong, not as a mistake done by a dictionary, would that be ironic? < 1336321235 749638 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1336321237 873917 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have point < 1336321240 500051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not even sure the concept of wrongness makes sense wrt definitions in natural languages < 1336321247 132152 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :since then the definition of ironic would be wrong < 1336321260 154884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think this explains the Alanis Morissette song. < 1336321265 653671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in computer languages, it's possible to have an objectively wrong definition, though (such as one that's incompatible with the desired semantics) < 1336321279 551845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's genuinely ironic that the song is meant to be about irony and yet doesn't know what irony is < 1336321288 254262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The *song* doesn't know what irony is? < 1336321295 77326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose it doesn't. < 1336321312 706472 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but the semantics parser will still give an error < 1336321317 806763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, that the existence of those lyrics of the song imply that their author doesn't know what irony is < 1336321327 830689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: you don't know what you're talking about < 1336321327 985616 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and the language does not consists of only a syntax parser < 1336321336 177703 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*consist < 1336321341 138972 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how so? < 1336321352 486944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION concurs < 1336321378 53715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're using the lies-to-first-years definition of "semantics", rather than the mathematical definition < 1336321399 283613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies-to-first-years :D < 1336321405 907448 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was never in first year :( < 1336321407 10369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: by analogy with lies-to-children < 1336321410 855009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know, it's amusing < 1336321419 564186 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would rather pick lies-to-children then < 1336321431 609361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually saw that lie made a few months ago < 1336321439 463155 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it :( < 1336321448 477517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: do people seriously teach children compiler design? < 1336321455 764049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Belgium they do. < 1336321458 751372 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :children teach themselves < 1336321461 445224 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how things go < 1336321476 585649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed, I think; now I'm wondering if I could have written a compiler before I turned 18 < 1336321490 954501 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible, since I've done so. < 1336321497 205526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd need to have thought of doing so, for one thing; I definitely could have learnt < 1336321498 181293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not ais523. < 1336321503 300652 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: if you are interested in compiler development I would recommend reading crenshaw's Let's build a compiler < 1336321503 991716 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt you wouldn't be able to if if you could < 1336321507 816871 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*if < 1336321521 948351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of course I could, I read a book on compiler design before then < 1336321529 460447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and later cited it in my Masters' project < 1336321558 340164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, fun YouTube regression: the Pause button no longer changes to a Replay icon when the video ends (but clicking on it replays the video anyway) < 1336321577 784546 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: books, books, books! I'll first finish the books I'm currently reading; but thanks for the tip < 1336321607 566111 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: atually Let's build a compiler is a article series < 1336321655 505429 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It just occured to me that I haven't used youtube's own player to play youtube videos for a year < 1336321678 760890 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: oh < 1336321686 577979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: do you download them, violating the TOS, then play them in some other player? Or use a streaming player? < 1336321718 18203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that streaming and downloading look identical from the server's point of view, and mostly from the client's too, so it's weird that the distinction is made < 1336321746 393625 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: youtube-dl (download) currently, mactubes/youview (streaming) on my iBook < 1336321812 472881 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: it teaches how to build simple compiler on Pascal under SK*DOS compiling to m68k assembly < 1336321823 449023 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh pascal :( < 1336321831 283447 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have to learn Pascal first then < 1336321839 284945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: meh, it's just a simplified algol 68 < 1336321847 608652 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, looks like the tailor of panama has the opening titles set in comic sans < 1336321859 167002 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I translated code to python even thought I don't really know pascal either < 1336321881 805735 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wan't that hard < 1336321895 634474 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: but I think you always make big mistakes if you don't really understand a language; you just don't notice it < 1336321946 745124 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to read the dragon book, I think that should be as well as those articles? < 1336321984 235056 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: pascal code used there is very easily readable without much pascal knowledge and I always sanity checked all my modifications and the seemed to work. Also I think that there is a forth version of Let's build a compiler < 1336322024 762022 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: dragon book is bit harder to learn from because it covers more < 1336322052 375318 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll be fine < 1336322060 379744 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's intended to learn from < 1336322064 295348 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that shouldn't be a problem < 1336322065 205769 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*It wasn't that hard < 1336322097 421735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows that an intent to teach always translates to being easy to be taught by < 1336322135 456172 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B936.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336322222 787059 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how can you be sure everyone does? < 1336322229 714223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336322230 749015 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should redefine everyone < 1336322236 65387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336322262 395938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: this sort of needless pedantry really doesn't add much to the conversation, save it for compilers < 1336322314 97252 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define everyone '(everyone who knows that an intent to teach always translates to being easy to be taught by)) < 1336322329 599873 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: again, I'm just fooling with elliott's urge to define things < 1336322342 101632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: yes, and it is not a useful thing to do < 1336322344 370856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ooling/rolling/. Wait... < 1336322361 997998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conversations go much faster if you're not throwing in pointless trolling every few lines < 1336322365 694850 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I agree, but I can't help it < 1336322377 171368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: is this some sort of Internet version of Tourette's? < 1336322385 415069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it that you actually /can/ help it < 1336322387 263087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just don't want to? < 1336322387 453680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who can't help but troll should avoid IRC < 1336322418 852951 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I can't help to because elliott insulted me more than once < 1336322441 930373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: this is a pretty bad explanation < 1336322442 719935 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I agree < 1336322447 997309 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because I'm trying to make him stop with the definition thing < 1336322453 304332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what a "mutual recrimination cycle" is? < 1336322460 289954 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336322469 693078 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm guessing < 1336322471 226187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did "the definition thing" once to try and help you find an answer to your extremely vague question. < 1336322476 315444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's when one person does something to annoy someone else, and they respond in kind (or worse), and the first person responds in kind (or worse) < 1336322479 243981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gets out of hand < 1336322502 724514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to respond to someone annoying you, try to do so in a less bad way than the original, not a similar or worse way < 1336322510 969037 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1336322513 93277 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize that < 1336322513 399319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only does it prevent it getting out of hand, it also lets you take the moral high ground and go around being smug < 1336322523 577310 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win-win < 1336322605 832390 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but tbh, elliott, you did it more than once; but let's not continue the viscous circle < 1336322624 839741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assure you, the circle will be as solid as they come. < 1336322691 457099 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1336322707 870448 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there still esolang boards? < 1336322714 327490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: solidity is a state of maximum viscosity < 1336322730 805054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oops. < 1336322733 538133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: The wiki. < 1336322746 644816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: kareha on esoteric.voxelperfect.net was disabled because nobody used it, and I have no idea what's happened to esoteric.sange.fi < 1336322756 135358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graue shut the forum down when I took over the wiki since it got tons of spam and nobody used it. < 1336322757 747541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but alt.lang.intercal still exists, even though nobody posts there < 1336322758 811771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have an archive at http://esolangs.org/forum/. < 1336322786 798288 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BUY LOST DVD WITH LOWEST PRICE" < 1336322787 863465 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1336322805 24119 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sound like an esoteric programming language :p < 1336322805 81802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nice.. but the idea is difficult to understand. Life is much more hard to live than you can imagine.." < 1336323099 428893 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gun Holsters That Shoot You in the Leg, A Flammable Fire Extinguisher, Hand Sanitizer That Adds Bacteria to Your Skin, The Laundry Detergent That Shreds Clothes, The Flashlight That Can Stop Your Heart < 1336323144 188258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1336323168 910345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is still the best spam thread from the forum: http://esolangs.org/forum/kareha.pl/1302671493/l50 < 1336323184 723710 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.cracked.com/article_19805_the-5-most-baffling-product-recalls-all-time.html < 1336323208 323478 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336323312 673944 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering < 1336323329 394701 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I'll try to be specific elliott, but I might fail) < 1336323350 892075 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :does any programming language exist where < 1336323371 475198 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where what? < 1336323375 893381 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me type < 1336323404 675859 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type-system works "top-down"; with that I mean that you evaluate an expression to a given type (rather than to an unknown type and then check it with the given type) < 1336323408 750330 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to press enter before finishing your sentence, you know. < 1336323423 674925 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry < 1336323440 548141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Hey, I do it. :p < 1336323446 242767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Admittedly I type really fast.) < 1336323457 788955 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway so Real r = 5 + 5; would be Real r = Real(5) + Real(5); < 1336323466 866870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Haskell does that with typeclass overloading. < 1336323467 975443 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only do it accidentaly < 1336323474 246564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming I understand what you mean. < 1336323486 81858 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than Real r = Int(5) + Int(5); (assuming 5 is an integer literal) < 1336323493 981304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5 + 5 :: Real) is really (fromInteger (5 :: Integer) + fromInteger (5 :: Integer) :: Real) under the hood. < 1336323507 926315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can make overloaded values whose result depends on the type you use them as. < 1336323510 69415 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I know < 1336323521 43981 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I meant, that, does a language exists where that isn't the case? < 1336323536 308297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I interpret that as "top-down" by your definition. < 1336323546 902627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that the "typeclass overloading" is not related to OOP classes, and is something OOP can't do.) < 1336323573 410417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many languages separate evaluation from type-checking, anyway. < 1336323578 236318 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is there a language where the whole type system is done like this? < 1336323604 840539 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I actually find that this isn't that bad < 1336323610 859972 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the top-down approach) < 1336323675 639348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not sure what the top-down approach constitutes. How does type-checking differ for such a language? < 1336323685 53455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Perl's type system works like that < 1336323691 980622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it only has two types, list and scalar < 1336323717 580122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of the type of an expression being based on the expression, it's based entirely on the context < 1336323724 682175 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it differs fundamentally, the idea is sort of the reverse of the normal one < 1336323730 427758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: When I say < 1336323731 290509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:58 (5 + 5 :: Real) is really (fromInteger (5 :: Integer) + fromInteger (5 :: Integer) :: Real) under the hood. < 1336323736 79665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quite a lot of things behave differently in list and scalar context < 1336323736 249231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that the former is what you actually type. < 1336323739 23278 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: really? I need to look into perl more < 1336323740 452731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also have, e.g. < 1336323744 832440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :myTest :: String ==> "abc" < 1336323747 508870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :myTest :: Int ==> 42 < 1336323751 669904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where (a :: b) means "a with type b".) < 1336323758 428382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which sounds like what you're looking for. < 1336323762 997192 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to go, dinner; bye < 1336323770 8967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is ==> the actual syntax for that? < 1336323778 978906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's metasyntax for evaluation < 1336323786 187320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1336323925 103243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Anyway, the key thing that makes that work is the ability to overload only on return value. < 1336323938 488121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, that's badly-phrased, but whatever. < 1336324763 335913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336324872 920323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336325392 119438 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: overloading based on return type, indeed, that was partially why I was was interested in this approach < 1336325432 581742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell uses that quite extensively < 1336325432 764674 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides that, it would also solve the typical C++ string literal problem where std::string a = "A" + "B"; is illegal < 1336325451 980710 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's just C++ :| < 1336325526 696641 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think(and might be totally wrong) that maybe types should be separated from their literals < 1336325566 894862 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell does that for numeric literals, and with an extension for string literals as well. < 1336325584 105554 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :My interest in Haskell is rising < 1336325591 791104 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm scared by people saying that it's horrible < 1336325611 608587 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess there are always people who say that something's horrible < 1336325642 402061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the people saying it's horrible C++ programmers? :P < 1336325643 996381 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses." -- Bjarne Stroustrup < 1336325656 336617 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ :) < 1336325658 990953 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bonus: he's a C++ programmer. Well, the C++ programmer.) < 1336325660 53328 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: true < 1336325668 203938 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :knew that one, it's in The C++ Programming language < 1336325728 126906 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: surprisingly, no < 1336325740 560248 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it are Perl programmers < 1336325741 273667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: http://www.learnyouahaskell.com/ is the best Haskell book, FWIW. (Avoid Real World Haskell, it's outdated and goes too fast.) If you don't like LYAH, get a copy of http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~gmh/book.html; I haven't read it, but have received glowing recommendations for it. < 1336325765 233404 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is RWH outdated where LYAH isn't? < 1336325769 465873 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Honest question) < 1336325779 887322 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what haskell implementation should I use? < 1336325783 507187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: GHC. < 1336325784 571167 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC < 1336325785 313341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc < 1336325797 67550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The others are either really outdated or not really prime-time-ready. < 1336325797 915332 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For most practical purposes, there is no other Haskell implementation. < 1336325815 994257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UHC is useful for some specialised purposes (compiling to JavaScript), jhc is of interest but not really practical yet. < 1336325822 192558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less everything else is dead. < 1336325825 31548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Parsec, IIRC. < 1336325844 734975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Also it recommends ByteString for text, because a certain one of the authors hadn't written Text yet ;) < 1336325852 821901 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: bookmarked that :) < 1336325864 432756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both LYAH and RWH have the mtl 1 vs. mtl 2 problem, but that's just changing the capitalisation of one letter to fix, so... < 1336325866 204860 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, ByteString still has its uses. < 1336325872 956714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: No, it was for Unicode (IIRC) text. < 1336325875 793451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over String. < 1336325883 629527 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for the love of the $DEITY! Do I have to compile a compiler with this machine? < 1336325889 862108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: You can't, GHC depends on GHC. < 1336325896 461383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Linux binary is good, and can be installed to any prefix. < 1336325914 920739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use it, GHC takes about 2 hours to compile on a fast machine even if you had an existing binary lying around. < 1336325954 523046 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good. Usually it is source compile when package is not on slitaz's repo < 1336325975 654300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Note: Install 7.0.4, not 7.4.1. < 1336325989 111039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not every package builds with 7.4.1 yet and the Platform uses 7.0.4. < 1336325995 271627 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336326009 805336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(After you have GHC installed, you'll probably want to install the source package from http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/linux.html.) < 1336326158 972886 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-71-202-146-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1336326339 981871 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose lamda knowledge is useful in Haskell? < 1336326370 223352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends what you mean by lambda :P < 1336326385 242366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell corresponds to an extended version of a certain lambda calculus (not /the/ lambda calculus), but you don't need any background in it to start reading LYAH. < 1336326386 318401 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda calculus, sorry < 1336326394 875246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, I knew that, it's just that there's a bunch of them. < 1336326400 546026 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1336326401 249777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sure, Haskell uses anonymous functions, but even C++ has those nowadays.) < 1336326419 562878 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but I meant more /the/ lambda calculus < 1336326434 438203 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I don't really consider closures to be the whole lambda calculus < 1336326440 109716 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be rather restrained < 1336326455 989694 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, short-sighted is a better word I think < 1336326462 890637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's all the lambda calculus is, really; closures plus application. < 1336326469 87972 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other lambda calculi there are than /the/ lambda calculus? < 1336326480 74504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: /The/ lambda calculus usually means the untyped lambda calculus. < 1336326505 449007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's various typed lambda calculi, including the simply typed lambda calculus, members of the lambda cube (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_cube), etc. < 1336326517 134405 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah. Doesn't haskell implement untyped lambda calculus? < 1336326526 541406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Haskell is typed. < 1336326535 790782 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: read about that in the introduction I read < 1336326550 582893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is Hindley-Milner plus typeclasses. < 1336326564 948584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, s/Hindley-Milner/the lambda calculus which Hindley-Milner checks and infers typs for/.) < 1336326565 656524 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1336326627 864146 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And s/Hindley/Damas/g just to be different.) < 1336326803 250202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Have you played brogue? Is quaff-iding potions a good idea in brogue? (I picked you because you're the last person to talk and also Finnish.) < 1336326817 505191 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not played brogue. < 1336326824 957304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn. What about the second question? < 1336326842 12945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've seen a Let's Play of brogue that says that most items can be use-IDed safely with appropriate precautions < 1336326845 455184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like not doing it in combat, etc < 1336326845 866485 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on experience in other roguelikes I'd guess "no". < 1336326860 892667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure if this implies that some can't be < 1336326865 330254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You should play brogue, it's really pretty. < 1336326869 829904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the person in the game quaff-IDed a potion of descent < 1336326874 761489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was inconvenient but not really fatal < 1336326892 823048 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "no, unless you're powerful enough that you know you can't easily be instantly killed". < 1336326913 151308 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pretty" isn't a good reason to play a roguelike. < 1336326930 214624 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly what does the potion of descent do? Teleport you to lower levels? < 1336326933 928383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: No, I mean, *really* pretty: http://ompldr.org/vZG1ueg < 1336327010 457796 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1336327014 437360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: takes out the ground beneath anyone who drinks it (or just destroys the ground directly if it breaks on it) < 1336327027 481506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which causes the drinker, or anyone you throw it at, to fall to the level below < 1336327027 960352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: THANKS FOR THE ADVICE http://ompldr.org/vZG45Mg < 1336327032 121112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the fire, too, is really pretty. < 1336327058 852245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well you didn't die, did you? < 1336327063 979055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not *yet*. < 1336327078 735487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My monkey d id, though. < 1336327084 727244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're only two squares from walking out of the fire < 1336327090 587095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, the fire was *on* me. < 1336327096 67628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to be fair, that was worth it just for "Your monkey catches fire!" < 1336327097 149446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. it followed me around. < 1336327102 684677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, interesting < 1336327107 323914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm almost dead, but I'm not on fire any more, and I'm still levitating. < 1336327144 402789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, I'm hovering over a pool of my own blood. < 1336327148 100569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's really metal. < 1336327178 689329 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :why o why jQuery, does thou not do as I say?(or I'm just doing it wrong :() < 1336327195 995659 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, seems like rather cool game < 1336327319 55158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: jQuery? that second boss is hard as hell < 1336327383 504501 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :jQuery, the (over-)popular JavaScript library(assuming you're asking about what it is) < 1336327392 647182 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*asking what it si < 1336327394 62626 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is < 1336327536 26623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336328205 468449 :nikolos!bc81eca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.129.236.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336328205 669822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my opinion you cannot really understand monad and other things from LYAH, and there are other things too like that; I find reading Haskell 2010 report also helps understanding syntax and so on a bit better but even that won't help completely; you have to learn it by yourself < 1336328216 178068 :nikolos!bc81eca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.129.236.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336328224 963139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome nikolos < 1336328228 495818 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nikolos: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1336328229 753841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ nikolos ? esoteric < 1336328240 176020 :nikolos!bc81eca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.129.236.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336328244 689852 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nikolos: This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1336328251 386140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :our bots are so slow :( < 1336328262 772050 :nikolos!bc81eca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.129.236.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336328270 439719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: was that a guess? < 1336328280 702717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's a guess < 1336328282 83079 :nikolos!bc81eca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.129.236.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of < 1336328288 656443 :nikolos!bc81eca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.129.236.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336328303 409333 :nikolos!bc81eca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.129.236.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess to the point < 1336328316 328510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1336328335 219964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes bots are slow so try harder < 1336328339 601808 :nikolos!bc81eca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.129.236.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336328364 642974 :nikolos!bc81eca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.129.236.169 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336328380 47850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336328529 90638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have fortune file too. I have added two of the pasted ones < 1336329090 240847 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336329113 548956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a few seconds ago I have corrected Internet Quiz Engine so that a ? block may contain multiple ! conditions without damaging the answer numbers. < 1336329161 664140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It will now pay attention to skipped : instructions when numbering the answers so that when skipping a question that has already been answered, it knows which one it is.) < 1336329264 178577 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336329773 95250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336330254 702773 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://farm1.staticflickr.com/31/103658637_bc9b5c88fa_z.jpg lol :D Do some people really think like that? < 1336330262 983345 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336330297 592241 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336330310 850807 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm feeling a lot better now < 1336330324 883774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336330339 235979 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336330392 75575 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you hear: i forked crawl. bad idea. now i won't be able to get any work done :'( < 1336330402 525537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i didn't hear when did this happen < 1336330404 281237 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336330407 481849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why < 1336330407 524358 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last night < 1336330411 583465 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1336330412 628502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's it called and what's changed so far < 1336330419 176623 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl < 1336330424 877059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's way worse than qrawl < 1336330433 943258 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what gitorious called it < 1336330437 985717 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just went with the flow < 1336330444 183828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1336330458 6957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, convince ais523 that nethack's id game is boring < 1336330458 24918 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent comited anything im just playing around by myself right now :'( < 1336330477 496099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i created it because i wanted to see what crawl would be like without randomization in combat and then i made all levels 24x24 < 1336330492 958637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1336330494 920675 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :next up I'm removing healing over time, removing food, removing identification < 1336330498 146718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336330503 958587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :squarelos too? < 1336330507 148785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait 24x24 < 1336330508 396954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nolos i guess < 1336330511 823425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it probably needs full spoiling to be interesting, probably item ID techniques should be spoiled < 1336330517 98392 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :24x24 is a bit too big for nolos < 1336330536 266264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why not just make levels the size of the default viewport < 1336330541 764248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's a bit too small < 1336330545 169456 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i did originally but yeah < 1336330552 594136 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :levels ended up having like no features < 1336330555 608374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make levels bigger to compensate but < 1336330556 673919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1336330558 91132 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could have mucked with levelgen but ehhh < 1336330561 105334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*make there be more levels to compensate < 1336330572 493706 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right also next up i'm removing upstairs < 1336330578 245932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336330581 47711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like games without upstairs < 1336330597 578608 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and scaling ood rate up < 1336330609 19889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why remove upstairs, out of curiosity? < 1336330634 477388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because optimal stashing play in Crawl is really boring < 1336330642 503214 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like stairdancing or stashing or anything like that that, which upstairs allow < 1336330645 989549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is one reasonable fix for that, I've actually suggested it to Crawl's devteam < 1336330650 440868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm asking for his opinion so I can suggest alternative solutions < 1336330659 554435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with healing over time removed you can't go upstairs to heal < 1336330660 83722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that don't remove upstairs, because I like upstairs < 1336330677 397475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: with stashing, you could just make some common monsters pick up items they can't use < 1336330682 706667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or destroy them somehow < 1336330690 196293 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336330690 313114 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1336330691 726899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guess levels don't run when you're not on them < 1336330705 697249 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's code to destroy off-level items < 1336330707 651598 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jiyva uses it < 1336330712 647144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the other solution to stashing is to have a bag of holding that takes a lot of time to access so you can't do it in combat < 1336330722 172572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: for stairdancing, I have a decent idea for fixing that, but you sound like you've already made up your mind, so < 1336330727 49444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Crawl's devteam is vetoing containers with contents in the name of keeping the game simple (!) < 1336330751 266414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree w/ adding a bag of holding < 1336330752 627632 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How hard could it be to write a roguelike? < 1336330756 772096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: not very < 1336330766 362009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they avoid many of the typical gamedev issues < 1336330772 570125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :balancing a roguelike, OTOH... < 1336330778 937765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: (but if you're not then I'll tell you) < 1336330781 918785 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How hard could it be to write a roguelike for someone with minimal video game programming experience? < 1336330787 449404 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1336330801 446171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: if a monster is trying to fight you (i.e. not wandering), and you go upstairs, then it'll "follow you" < 1336330803 607730 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be simpler for me to leave staircases than remove them, and when i make my very own roguelike i just won't have them < 1336330808 180237 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: this is a guide to writing roguelikes, did you already see it? < 1336330811 717699 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1336330812 93905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read: after N turns (how long it'd take for it to get to the upstairs), it appears on the downstairs < 1336330813 534117 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue does that < 1336330818 34504 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, no I did not < 1336330828 668393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: (then do the same for compansions and you can also remove the radius thing) < 1336330840 980495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by radius i mean < 1336330847 519137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that things one away from you teleport up the stairs with you < 1336330878 447714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does your game have PC/NPC unification (if applicable)? Does it have multiple stairs? Macros? Discouragement of wasting time (including fighting a lot of the same kind of creature)? < 1336330881 251583 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php/How_to_Write_a_Roguelike_in_15_Steps < 1336330895 837109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe i should look at crawl's code < 1336330914 127151 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hav fun < 1336330926 21368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's not fun i'm looking for it's revenge < 1336330927 31425 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, yay < 1336330929 245269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you like upstairs, out of curiosity? < 1336330935 143727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336330948 925330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one "realism" i.e. i just don't like the idea of staircases disappearing once you go down them < 1336330958 601506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two, for things like entrances to branches < 1336330967 835059 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) no issue, they'll all be escape hatches < 1336330970 335480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if they are *not* staircases, but instead are holes in the ground? < 1336330979 816546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's just silly instead < 1336330990 170651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: three, I think it's OK to go back for loot that you skipped (as distinct from stashing) < 1336331005 569073 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want the loot, pick it up!!! < 1336331016 829130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's heavy and I can't use it yet! < 1336331044 311714 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick it up anyway < 1336331045 805877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Then that is your fault for stealing things that you cannot carry. Perhaps find a similar thing later on < 1336331047 691671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336331050 913462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what about #2 < 1336331064 698978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, are you going to remove food entirely, or just hunger? the latter seems better because ghouls and the like) < 1336331069 299314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or are you removing ghouls too) < 1336331076 275516 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336331100 55428 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing food entirely, modifying mummys and ghouls and vampres to make them mean something again < 1336331175 710798 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol :D my bookmarkfile is larger than my text editor binary < 1336331213 949535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the answers to my questions? < 1336331220 249413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what about #2 ;_; < 1336331264 236293 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox's places.sqlite (which stores bookmarks and history, I believe) is about 25 times the size of my text editor binary < 1336331265 123447 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there will be a solution" < 1336331282 308403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: to branches??? < 1336331286 356297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK this is fucking enough. < 1336331286 416437 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have had it up to here with this motherfucking GNOME on this motherfucking laptop. < 1336331295 336056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway uugh i really don't like removing upstairs but "your game" < 1336331307 33492 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :traveling between branches is ugh anyway < 1336331314 660669 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interlevel travel is < 1336331315 900178 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally ugh < 1336331327 609460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: conversely, why do you want to remove stairs with the tweaks I suggested? < 1336331332 383008 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I am using a flat file < 1336331341 909679 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+text < 1336331370 130225 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like your antistashing tweak < 1336331375 832915 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have used this file for about a month < 1336331383 126176 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I was using Kde 3.5/Trinity.. when I got my new laptop, I tried a ton of DEs.. finally came back to Trinity, it's my favorite < 1336331391 2838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ais523's is probably better < 1336331429 996805 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: has there bern much change from kde 3.5? < 1336331442 10034 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: not really < 1336331455 760745 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bag of holding? < 1336331459 507572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336331467 481704 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: it's definitely stuck in the past.. but that's me, I guess < 1336331475 822947 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: how much memory does it use < 1336331498 510687 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not actually sure how to determine that < 1336331504 392548 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I used to use twm < 1336331518 398221 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ so age is not anissue < 1336331530 132879 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not really fold of those either but maybe there are solutions?? < 1336331535 798912 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: use top command < 1336331552 453613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how about limiting the amount of weight a tile can support? < 1336331569 850086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you try and put too much on one tile, it just turns into a shaft or whatever < 1336331572 331876 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would that prevent stashing < 1336331572 686081 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: right, but there are diffrent numbers, and I was never sure which one was real < 1336331577 141918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it'd make it really tedious < 1336331580 937841 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"great" < 1336331583 478437 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just what i wanted" < 1336331587 181793 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336331590 60564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that discourages it, doesn't it? < 1336331607 612589 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :making something more tedious doesn't stop it from being optimal < 1336331622 673042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to remove the "optimal but tedious" aspect < 1336331630 768836 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I'll add up a few of there and see what I get < 1336331632 367945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody plays optimally; if you make the optimal stuff annoying enough, people won't bother < 1336331653 444763 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like that philosophy < 1336331655 216538 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at < 1336331656 636231 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all < 1336331660 568832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1336331663 794665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like removing upstairs less < 1336331705 190708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how about just making dropping an item destroy it :) < 1336331713 168241 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336331720 631229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better than removing upstairs!! < 1336331726 98931 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1336331733 368402 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd leave items on previous levels and come back to them < 1336331739 925452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336331741 559749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you not < 1336331742 123466 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336331743 547326 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not you < 1336331743 868729 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336331744 753522 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I'm assuming you'll want to run the standard stuff like package update notifications < 1336331745 634901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1336331745 653072 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other people < 1336331746 363612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336331751 308635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: items would get destroyed when you go > < 1336331761 632440 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: yes < 1336331775 274339 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and you prefer that over removing upstairs? < 1336331779 426198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes < 1336331791 670766 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: actually n9 < 1336331795 572838 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1336331848 268755 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my roguelike will go up rather than down < 1336331860 706412 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: my computer is IBM ThinkPad T20 with 700MHz Pentium III and 64MB of RAM < 1336331862 655869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: anyway idkkkk you should at least leave removing upstairs for last so i can come up with adequate solutions to your objections in the meantime :p < 1336331890 130667 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336331908 257651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336331912 589456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should termcast what you have so far sometime or something < 1336331921 651706 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: it looks like around 150mb < 1336331954 359353 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: ugh. I'll just stick with openbox then < 1336331960 419390 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: laptops are cheap, why not upgrade? < 1336331996 712516 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I try to use my computers as long as I can < 1336331997 717617 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be called "Business Barbarian" < 1336332019 439913 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: 64mb ram is pretty limiting tho, even besides the gui < 1336332057 913868 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which browser do you use? < 1336332075 796639 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: links2, hv3 and netsurf < 1336332084 102692 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a machine around that speed and iceweasel was not too fun < 1336332090 792965 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah hehe < 1336332101 976213 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott < 1336332187 704597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what are you going to do about vaults < 1336332217 128152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of them work but most of them get vetoed < 1336332233 431281 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: my main browser is links2 in graphical mode and most of the programs I use are already terminal aplications. If I could only get framebuffer to work with my computer I would not autostart X < 1336332234 490669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant < 1336332237 612606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the annoying/bad ones < 1336332237 790453 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty fine with this for monqys-crawl. it's not an entirely serious project < 1336332240 666783 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336332245 445992 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336332249 174171 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :saving that for last i guess < 1336332260 551533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you getting rid of imps :( < 1336332299 69982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that :( means "i hope so") < 1336332302 611219 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: links2, netsurf and mplayer can be run on framebuffer < 1336332305 276951 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most monsters aren't very annoying right now < 1336332317 360447 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :honqy < 1336332333 752994 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll probably have to make some adjustments because everything dies really really quickly like in one hit < 1336332345 784836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha what did you do < 1336332359 274481 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :halamari < 1336332359 806952 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :made most if not all things do max damage < 1336332375 759550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they should do average damage instead < 1336332379 301652 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336332382 855320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm not sure removing randomness in combat is A Gr8 Idea) < 1336332470 675196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but) < 1336332472 269357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("yr game") < 1336332488 664447 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said its < 1336332495 266466 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really a serious project < 1336332510 123829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither is crawl < 1336332524 575217 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that a joke < 1336332532 546541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336332538 682507 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1336332544 298100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should it have been < 1336332555 679928 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I haven't used netsurf, but yeah I've done that with links2 and mplayer < 1336332576 66086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should remove the non-xom gods (im giving good advice) < 1336332591 267452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no keep chei too < 1336332648 157333 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: netsurf is a browser originaly for risc os that is a bitch to get to compild because of its dependecies < 1336332803 611263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you going to tweak starting stats/inv, btw, if you're increasing ood spawns? < 1336332893 910288 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by ood increase i might actually mean not generating monsters before your current depth because they're just not worth having < 1336332902 604821 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by not generating them i might mean replacing them with oods < 1336332908 306888 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, myself! < 1336332915 404871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know myself either < 1336332947 551269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why is crawl like 400k lines of code :( < 1336332952 685158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok by 400k i mean 373k < 1336332956 654982 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because bad < 1336332962 507830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's like < 1336332963 920513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of source code < 1336332996 527457 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not particularly pleasant either < 1336333005 743328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know where the monster definitions are < 1336333072 173615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also make some things to be options which can be selected before the game starts < 1336333168 631898 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336333210 68132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the Crawl people understand OOP < 1336333237 301822 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is it better than Nethack?? < 1336333255 302297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :code-wise? < 1336333256 904425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1336333276 38328 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1336333299 671571 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1336333332 228100 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thank god i was only reminded who he was right after he left < 1336333365 600164 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336333445 549872 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: who he is? < 1336333467 557866 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an idiot < 1336333481 354449 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336333484 71820 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He came in going on about how general relativity is clearly bullshit. < 1336333495 83814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When challenged on this, he claimed to be an expert on it. < 1336333496 640924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't quite how it went < 1336333500 94172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was terrible though) < 1336333513 466961 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well roughly that, he was criticising it based on claimed expertise. < 1336333519 429670 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I asked him what a tensor was. < 1336333521 181651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2011-12-20#133853AnotherTest onwards < 1336333521 262606 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It got ugly. < 1336333526 549619 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what!? challeged general relativity? < 1336333532 932880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ends at 14:24 < 1336333540 419355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read ~if you dare!!!~ < 1336333543 482466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes we convicted him under uk anti-free speech legislation < 1336333568 774646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336333569 836674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need the < 1336333573 32441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:36:50: "Time is a part of the measuring system used to sequence events, to compare the durations of events and the intervals between them, and to quantify rates of change such as the motions of objects.[1] The temporal position of events with respect to the transitory present is continually changing; events happen, then are located further and further in the past. Time has been a major subject of religion, philosophy, and < 1336333573 206017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : science, but defining it in a n < 1336333573 224846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:36:51: on-controversial manner applicable to all fields of study has consistently eluded the greatest scholars. A simple definition states that "time is what clocks measure"." < 1336333574 798529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:36:56: -- Wikipedia, attempting to define "time". < 1336333576 751465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:37:10: Did you know that events happen, and then are located further and further in the past? < 1336333578 793798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :context for that < 1336333719 670344 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Quit: testaan startup-skripti' < 1336333721 628513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, now I'm reading that log again. < 1336333721 985310 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336333730 504105 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336333755 593585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The correct way to define time is according to its effects on physics. < 1336333776 326894 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: fwiw I run openbox on that laptop :) < 1336333800 957178 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw? < 1336333814 166457 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what it's worth < 1336333847 298602 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried openbox/lxde on my new one but it jus tcouldn't handle multiple unmatched screens properly < 1336333909 832200 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336333968 495550 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the ending makes it all worthwhile. < 1336334009 303474 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: have you ever used wwm? it is quite nice window manager < 1336334036 873148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:17:16: < means something, in fact < 1336334036 929254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:17:22: < implies =/=. < 1336334036 929321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:17:25: No < 1336334054 238395 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1336334089 443233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this is the correct way to define time, or do you have other opinion? < 1336334091 651431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:21:27: I'm even doubting whether you understand what a momentum is, Phatum < 1336334094 839032 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: nope < 1336334095 902933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You're Phatum_Hoover now. < 1336334102 729876 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phatum_Hooveer < 1336334104 647689 :Phatum_Hooveer!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phatum_Hoover < 1336334173 274402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hovver < 1336334205 527674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :phætom howeyr < 1336334575 720349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1336334590 503380 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336334613 268082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1336334614 509279 :orionx!~stas@bzq-79-177-195-125.red.bezeqint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336334626 639453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome orionx < 1336334629 239173 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :orionx: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1336334630 54952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ orionx ? esoteric < 1336334633 174431 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :orionx: This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1336334680 991266 :orionx!~stas@bzq-79-177-195-125.red.bezeqint.net PART :#esoteric < 1336334688 182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336334725 947388 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should put the programming note directly in the welcome message < 1336334755 225824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336334758 765336 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1336334838 821496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems difficult (or maybe completely impossible) making the category for a partial ordering in Haskell. (As far as I can tell, the laws of a partial ordering are the same as the laws of a thin category.) < 1336335370 372238 :MoALTz__!~no@92.8.228.0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336335500 353655 :Phatum_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus christ why is texlive so huge < 1336335504 821125 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-122-250.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336335505 350868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: this is a great sprint game im watching < 1336335506 232942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just < 1336335508 924214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mephitic clouding everything < 1336335556 789375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scummos? I'm assuming it's not n7 < 1336335561 611340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336335564 798262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phatum_Hoover: Probably it includes all of LaTeX which is very large, as well as fonts and drivers and so on; I do not know if it is possible to tell it to omit LaTeX. Also, do you have PCL printer? < 1336335581 383204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok they're not mephitic clouding the elephant slug < 1336335582 860245 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not have a PCL printer, you won't need the programs "dvipcl", "dvilj", and their variants, either. < 1336335587 607562 :Phatum_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, allow me to amend my original comment. < 1336335596 263212 :Phatum_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus christ why is texlive so huge zzo need not reply < 1336335627 821123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, you are asking Jesus Christ. Well, he isn't here right now. < 1336335664 913042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when will he be back < 1336335664 931615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprint seems to involve a lot of running away < 1336335675 609732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe this guy is just bad at it < 1336335679 365362 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336335694 957165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's kiting the elephant slug, but maybe that's his only option < 1336335698 492977 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's only the first sprint < 1336335699 730674 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in like < 1336335700 625893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zig sprint < 1336335702 569515 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no running < 1336335732 74613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you meant to kill sonja last < 1336335733 310751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if < 1336335735 807899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the level's named after her < 1336335744 34941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336335747 53343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jUST SAYING!!! < 1336335750 59816 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode Sonja? < 1336335756 795524 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :So mean < 1336335765 31386 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336335779 554443 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought you meant the freenode Sonja, I guess not < 1336335783 310431 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frequents many channels < 1336335791 961011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a reasonable thing to believe < 1336335807 91758 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phatum_Hoover: Perhaps you can remove the files that you don't want, after install? When I installed MiKTeX, it included many files I did not want but there is an option to remove them so that is what I did. < 1336335897 580100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprints look hard < 1336335923 756919 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprint difficulty depends greatly on which sprint, combo, and if you know how to do it < 1336335936 152423 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by its fixed nature, it's much more spoily than normal crawl < 1336335985 198356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a feeling it isn't very suited to pure melee characters < 1336335988 36306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least unless you have a ton of hp < 1336335996 754168 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's perfectly fine on them < 1336335999 196690 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1336336000 964630 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sprints are < 1336336295 652510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow sprints are popular today < 1336337071 348447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: anyway i guess removing upstairs isn't such a bad idea except for the messing up branches thing < 1336337076 346425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also how are you going to do the orb run) < 1336337098 885522 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undecided < 1336337104 719667 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mcrawl approach is just not have orb run < 1336337114 283329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just win once you pick up the orb or w/e? < 1336337116 782136 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336337121 645758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could do the rogue thing < 1336337122 721843 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :top priority momentarily is make it segfault less < 1336337130 691594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :change downstairs into upstairs once you get the orb < 1336337141 523021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess < 1336337145 270497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have an upstairs next to the orb < 1336337150 31198 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orb run is pretty dull but maybe in monqys-crawl it would be more interesting < 1336337180 806179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im working on the assumption that anything dull would be made more interesting < 1336337193 775389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ps it would be less dull with the things-follow-you-upstairs change!!!) < 1336337199 281081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe) < 1336337208 351583 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things-follow-you-downstairs < 1336337223 584302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that should be added even if upstairs are removed < 1336337238 493071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you can just skip any level with anything dangerous on it and since you can't go upstairs anyway you don't really lose much < 1336337318 638526 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336337323 425468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps remove goliath beetles, nerf worms < 1336337332 103576 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336337337 247694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336337337 772714 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My roguelike is going well < 1336337339 406152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worms were nerft by the max damage dealie < 1336337350 721027 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most things were, really. except for the things that were megabuft < 1336337358 874696 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"needs rebalancing" < 1336337359 243544 :Phatum_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336337363 483148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah but that seems to have nerfed everything to a terrible degree so < 1336337365 819844 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that can come after making it not segfault" < 1336337368 834708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my balancing suggestions are assuming you fix that < 1336337386 525194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with removing randomness from combat is that < 1336337398 570269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can basically predetermine whether you'll live or die before doing anything < 1336337405 127043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which removes all possibility of taking a risk or whatever < 1336337416 481743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kind of A Shame < 1336337467 132551 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change of plan, bye < 1336337468 230237 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1336337512 411094 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we'll just have to wait for monqy's actual roguelike" < 1336337550 428279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you realise it's impossible to make a crawl variant AND another game < 1336337553 451362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't they TELL you < 1336337601 366746 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody told me :( < 1336337625 891424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm still suggest even if it's totally non-serious < 1336337632 88119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*im *its < 1336338117 789262 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2009/07/21/on-optimization/ < 1336338304 244044 :Phatum_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc26-belf9-2-0-cust5.2-1.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336338607 183415 :Phatum_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc26-belf9-2-0-cust5.2-1.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336338969 741411 :MoALTz__!~no@92.8.228.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336339877 125037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to think of how to make WizardCard to know which headings are more specific than others < 1336339937 183332 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336339939 829376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, the heading macro/xyz(0) is more specific than macro/xyz(#1) < 1336339973 693689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what annoys me? < 1336339974 838468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the first heading only matches exactly xyz(0) but the second one matches xyz with anything else too < 1336339996 308981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How hard it is to configure wifi connections on Linux. < 1336340013 27142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *still* have no idea whatsoever how to do it except with the GNOME applet. < 1336340028 872108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Did you read the man page? < 1336340038 874470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the man page on wifi. < 1336340043 989427 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps connecting to wifi. < 1336340062 200255 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot find documentation without having the slightest idea which tool I'm even looking at. < 1336340064 519945 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for < 1336340069 674637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that man page will be called; you can try man -k to search < 1336340420 600188 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or apropos < 1336340432 275300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you help me with the algorithm of most specific headings? It is not only as simple as the examples I have given; there are other possibilities too. < 1336340533 869083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how about defining a union-of-two-headings function? < 1336340557 612407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then x `isMoreSpecificThan` y = x == mappend x y < 1336340561 196576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if it forms a monoid) < 1336340584 708326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, OK, but can you give an example of what you mean? < 1336340601 817310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I'm not sure what you mean, that *was* the example :) < 1336340614 432386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mappend x y would be a heading that matches whenever x or y matches < 1336340622 47945 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Gregor what is wrong with bsd userland < 1336340622 178635 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336340622 360348 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336340648 231033 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks that looks like it will work < 1336340658 211270 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336340664 915404 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wouldn't you need the specificity order to form a lattice then < 1336340678 900420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yep, I was making assumptions about zzo38's situation < 1336340691 309684 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it form a lattice < 1336340712 512942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Can you explain what a lattice is, then? < 1336340809 171166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The headings are of type [Token] and, other than the exact match tokens, the other ones are T_Para (matches anything), and T_List and T_Call (both of which can contain other tokens) < 1336340844 344055 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :latice, basically: partial order with operations to take the greatest upper lower and least upper bound of any two elements < 1336340846 510257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that sometimes two headings cannot be combined in this way < 1336340872 694414 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could just get away with a semilattice though < 1336340887 409434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What is a "greatest upper lower"? < 1336340889 879812 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :semilattices only need one of those operations < 1336340891 129286 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336340897 237294 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant greatest lower bound < 1336340901 133432 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not greatest upper lower < 1336340903 274717 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"woops" < 1336340907 708690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that is what I thought you might have meant < 1336340909 849020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok greatest upper lower was greatest < 1336340913 246760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also upper and lower) < 1336340980 357061 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: one of them is called "meet" and the other is "join" and I can never remember which is which, but mappend in elliott's example is one of them, depending on which way you order your stuff < 1336341049 33404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, there's http://hackage.haskell.org/package/lattices < 1336341062 288052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336341081 693678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably better than Monoid for you since it ensures commutativity and so on < 1336341127 907243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "join" is already used in Haskell for the monadic operation. But are "meet" and "join" dual like in a dual category (treating the partial ordering as a category)? < 1336341149 413581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can import the module qualified (as L, say) < 1336341210 315574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, still, some headings may not be able to combine in this way < 1336341237 4450 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastefortunes < 1336341242 542212 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20890 < 1336341279 688470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you meant something that may match *more* than only the two original headings. < 1336341415 441372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you can clarify? < 1336341477 635214 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :win 14 < 1336341499 242180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Can you elaborate on that? < 1336341503 903014 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo < 1336341509 37774 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the / on an irssi command < 1336341518 67138 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336341527 274573 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :win 14 < 1336341529 223869 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336341530 450779 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I think I actually have Henry back to being tolerable!! < 1336341531 916405 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up < 1336341603 530203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336341610 800606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Do you know somethings about answering my question though? Maybe not? < 1336341650 898257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: For example, the headings macro/x(0) and macro/x(1) are both matched by macro/x(#1) but then it matches many other things too < 1336341853 710110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I have a fortunes file too. Do you have? < 1336341879 395231 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes but it is very small < 1336341938 462319 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, if the part before the slash differs, the headings won't combine at all, but that is not relevant since the ordering of specificness is not important if the headings are of a different kind) < 1336341981 671359 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-201.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336341998 341430 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-112.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336342024 721078 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :c2bf project status: c2bf-cpp now supports #define, c2bf-libc has now been split to multiple files (stdio.c,string.c) < 1336342045 627976 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*c2bf-libc.c < 1336342119 773121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336342254 66598 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :todo: implement strings < 1336342367 939232 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: TODO: QUIT < 1336342424 607676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336342460 769249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:54:39: Unless you meant something that may match *more* than only the two original headings. < 1336342465 630794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, no < 1336342535 973879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does it still segfault :'( < 1336342554 427180 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havne't worked on it since last night < 1336342558 354696 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"home work" < 1336342568 492994 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hha ha schoole" < 1336342576 68464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :home work: make crawl variant < 1336342581 820875 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish < 1336342692 212978 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aural myiasis (the technical term for "being earfucked by worms") < 1336342724 913867 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kool < 1336343805 944431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qool < 1336343896 771397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zool < 1336343900 531307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xool < 1336344049 879669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yool :'( < 1336344071 162534 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wool < 1336344072 932094 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fool < 1336344074 743354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pool < 1336344078 471718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aool < 1336344099 167358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rool < 1336344131 111344 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vool >:( < 1336344161 754009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tool < 1336344352 242542 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :λool < 1336344375 112320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :‰l < 1336344378 58657 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :þool < 1336344378 232229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336344386 35246 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1336344386 171024 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti asked 1h 2m 44s ago: what is wrong with bsd userland < 1336344391 288116 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336344394 131865 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I was TROLLING < 1336344404 7830 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ok < 1336344631 183671 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336345766 487105 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336346890 778486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: alsobtw, are you removing identification entirely or just making things identify on pickup? < 1336347039 603350 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plans to remove id entirely < 1336347055 421928 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :picking things up to identify them then dropping them when they aren't good found "lots of fun" < 1336347127 61145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah it's kind of boring; it's interesting in some respects but maybe not enough to keep it < 1336347134 591297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in the context of Crawl at least < 1336347189 505157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking My Roguelike(tm) might have some minor forms of identification but they'd be very limited and race-based < 1336347215 700799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. a stupid race wouldn't be able to identify scrolls before using them (because they can't read) until they upped int < 1336347228 316028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the solution would be: don't use scrolls < 1336347229 917587 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only form of identification i've considered for my roguelike so far is that spell-identification thing i talked about < 1336347254 706889 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336347262 91209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "spell" "identification" < 1336347290 227415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i shouldn't speak of anything resembling an identification game in anything even resembling a positive light while i'm trying to convince ais523 that nethack's id game is really awful < 1336347303 273561 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1336347313 138570 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1336347470 764903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (which it is) < 1336347477 885027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(im just saying) < 1336348310 978792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336348320 636169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my monkey is apparently not smart enough to not kill pit bloats < 1336348439 91110 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336348966 178942 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B936.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336349412 465529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:09:15 < Delcan> Crawl loves... it's just misunderstood < 1336349412 819287 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:09:20 < Perryman> hate is love. < 1336349412 837170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:09:25 < Perryman> thats what i tell my girl anyway < 1336349412 837343 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:09:30 < Perryman> did i say that out loud < 1336349412 837416 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:09:33 < monqy> hi < 1336349419 836301 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crawl quality. ##crawlity. < 1336349491 28247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: was that hi as punishment? < 1336349531 289500 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as punishment as it can be without anyone understanding it < 1336349556 408248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, us in #esoteric understand that you mean hi as a threat < 1336349559 658299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ##crawl generally know that? < 1336349573 796933 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1336349605 951480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a threat? < 1336349608 669581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it threaten? < 1336349612 57053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to continue? < 1336349613 670782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a punishment < 1336349619 939894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the sort of thing you threaten < 1336349621 758731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-much like this- < 1336349629 424330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i'd feel ashamed if monqy "hi"d me :( < 1336349649 114307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-I could keep this up for ages- < 1336349655 107714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-It doesn't work if you don't punctuate.- < 1336349665 813682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-it doesn't work as well at least- < 1336349671 574587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-but punctuating is rare on IRC anyway- < 1336349681 452700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im getting bored of brogue im going to play crawl instead < 1336349747 891549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after playing a fixed-viewport game for a while crawl's moving viewport makes me dizzy again oops < 1336349811 32788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa it's awful < 1336350023 791770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help :( < 1336350037 170789 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe triy a different stairs down < 1336350041 773656 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh too late < 1336350042 479312 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: play nh4 < 1336350042 820964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it was the < 1336350049 663026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :viewport i needed help with < 1336350051 35873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: already have < 1336350072 861899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not different enough to nethack for me to play it more yet < 1336350137 947366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: but if ais523 listens to me maybe i will ;) < 1336350220 696325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_You sense Yredelemnul urging you to kill the trapped human. < 1336350223 584082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yred, that's mean :( < 1336350266 840976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that was a bad idea < 1336350299 119628 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1336350309 506478 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh no, a goblin" < 1336350309 687383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk i was expecting yred to < 1336350311 424862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1336350313 511588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reanimate it < 1336350314 605547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1336350315 694053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kill me < 1336350316 848827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1336350331 434672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, undead can worship yred? < 1336350338 283263 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336350343 947730 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yred hates nonliving though < 1336350351 139088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336350356 669845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can worship it but it'll hate you < 1336350360 182436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336350366 587316 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonliving is distinct from undead in crawl < 1336350371 588870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're technical terms) < 1336350382 33614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is nonliving like < 1336350382 648336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plants < 1336350386 54631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336350388 24781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :golems and stuff < 1336350403 69424 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crawl holinesses are natural, plant, undead, nonliving, holy < 1336350416 772565 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(holiness is also a crawl term) < 1336350434 643504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl what are you DOINGe < 1336350445 525514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i worship yred (no) < 1336350458 283902 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey, undead friends. yaey, alley managemtn < 1336350471 879752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey, drain life? < 1336350500 770746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to hear a joke < 1336350510 783106 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love jokes < 1336350513 273416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :orcs < 1336350517 772712 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350528 600955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls ha some more < 1336350532 654750 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336350534 110153 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaah < 1336350554 9192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336350554 696128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350555 855887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the a comes < 1336350557 127434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the hs < 1336350587 83476 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow after playing monqys-crawl crawl levels look so big and empty < 1336350595 655293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to see monqys-crawl :'( < 1336350607 141202 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not ready for the public eye!!! < 1336350617 109875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not public!!! < 1336350635 328851 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was almost going to fix the segfaulting today but then i remembered i had homework < 1336350643 563609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfaulting is part of the monqys-crawl experience!!! < 1336350643 915072 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"man i sure suck at not having that" < 1336350671 749715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl doesn't actually exist you've just put a segfault in some branch of standard crawl code and lied about the rest "my prediction" < 1336350694 250619 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noo!!! < 1336350711 197510 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of segfaults ! < 1336350714 266200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have < 1336350714 950118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1336350715 805630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reason < 1336350718 18655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to believe you!!!! < 1336350729 33572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey, i can go berserk < 1336350729 883445 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336350737 667183 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good joke eliot < 1336350740 43869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill go berserk over monqy's LIES < 1336350742 846307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336350743 348587 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336350754 130346 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's the command to find out what my internet interfaces are < 1336350757 142216 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Someone should make a roguelike where you have to try to win by avoiding actual segfaults. < 1336350776 811596 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll termcast monqys-crawl once I get some of the segfaultiness ironed out < 1336350797 299346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you telling me that segfaults wouldn't make a termcast at least 67.4% more amusing < 1336350809 770689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sorry but i just cant condone your heretical views < 1336350810 429297 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what is the betterness of monqys-crawl? < 1336350813 669541 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :±0.1% < 1336350814 908672 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: segfault likelihood increases quickly as you descend < 1336350824 776651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's even funnier!!! < 1336350827 186855 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's not really a serious branch < 1336350828 632577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::''( < 1336350838 112466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's unserious? < 1336350838 862036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfaults < 1336350843 458641 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=/ < 1336350850 538033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going on crawl strike until i see monqys-crawl "taking a stand for freedom" < 1336350857 748411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"with peer pressure" < 1336350865 607376 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh fiiiiiiine < 1336350874 966731 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1336350876 15353 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see i if i remember how to do this < 1336350882 989585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can tell you if you want < 1336350885 474999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1336350886 120345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336350889 858745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 what's the termcast oneliner < 1336350893 546693 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i have it < 1336350900 147161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336350903 283231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ratry_login < 1336350904 176937 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just forget how to type < 1336350906 25739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't need to know any more < 1336350911 382171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: this happens to me also < 1336350912 521136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be hilarious if this works ;) < 1336350916 873630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* :) < 1336350935 637428 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336350943 95370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350944 910912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350945 560839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ratry_login < 1336350946 476347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350947 446307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350949 39817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350954 812995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it may have just been the HackEgo startup bug < 1336350955 209996 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350956 146953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its so funny i cant survive help :( < 1336350956 480939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350957 99173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350961 315516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350961 315649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1336350961 315897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350962 134895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im dying < 1336350964 184869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350966 137600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350968 200393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336350970 440600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im ded < 1336350970 496176 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-08-29.txt:22:22:02: script -f >( cat ./ratry_login - | nc -q5 noway.ratry.ru 31337 > /dev/null ) "$@" < 1336350975 759782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ha < 1336350999 185951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes back to feeling smug < 1336351015 479467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336351030 191061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it brought you back from the ded < 1336351040 220987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no im still ded < 1336351045 625463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just laughing also < 1336351091 644803 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. xw on CDO seems to be running a bot of some kind, too. < 1336351098 223547 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now he died. < 1336351119 825490 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: halp < 1336351121 244035 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now he died again. < 1336351136 41191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TESTIN' POTIONS < 1336351140 159219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TESTIN' SCROLLS < 1336351156 360038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEARIN' RIN' < 1336351175 55371 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xw is n7's autorobin fork < 1336351184 988234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing is better than monqy's bot < 1336351189 466437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"big surprise" < 1336351196 12310 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im surpis < 1336351200 999449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye die < 1336351202 565971 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uh < 1336351203 697082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336351204 259264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :felid < 1336351208 478274 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got termcaste runeing < 1336351221 538462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm squarelos) < 1336351223 367306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ps1 < 1336351229 679942 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: On what server? < 1336351232 410629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :termcast.org < 1336351234 497158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: quick watche!!! < 1336351280 133520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a shell :) < 1336351294 234342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, shell prompt < 1336351327 295358 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1336351329 64965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i play < 1336351335 309619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feck of chei < 1336351336 16315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336351337 268328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336351337 934770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything < 1336351338 865564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SeAM < 1336351341 406894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not feck of chei) < 1336351343 337720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* SEAM < 1336351358 417824 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if my modifications touched ranged combat, so it might megasuck < 1336351359 19048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: play something that won't die instantly or i guess nothing will since everything got nerfed < 1336351361 962796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336351365 578301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just play what you've been playing or w/e < 1336351372 440790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's pick a combo that's bad but not horrendously bad < 1336351373 420738 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard choices < 1336351377 454298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they removed AM altogether < 1336351384 927554 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AM got removed and then unremoved < 1336351388 934764 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SpFi < 1336351393 474589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: haha < 1336351404 420251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not so much bad as completely missing the point :) < 1336351408 728944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: just play (a) whatever you played when testing or (b) muck or something < 1336351424 813307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've only been playing op things < 1336351426 876272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MfFE < 1336351435 213805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's fine!!! < 1336351437 998262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll mean we < 1336351442 78791 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEIE < 1336351443 395625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~see more of the monqys-crawl experience~ < 1336351457 373831 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll cycle through everything you suggest that isn't just "whatever you tried" < 1336351464 874658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest: < 1336351466 188855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you tried < 1336351466 617701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about just viable random? < 1336351469 207336 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so first, a feck that takes chei first chance it gets < 1336351475 645677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine < 1336351490 301116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least xom's teleportation isn't very scary when the maps are this small < 1336351493 208231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1336351495 36911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: TERM=xterm < 1336351496 970864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1336351498 770362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dark grey is < 1336351499 374949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the felid is a Unicode character that isn't in dejavu sans mono < 1336351499 891151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :black again < 1336351500 437393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no is it not working < 1336351507 314764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works apart from dark grey that turns out black because < 1336351508 148964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :urxvt < 1336351508 841635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome-terminal can render it fine < 1336351512 506948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xterm can't < 1336351523 603019 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not the normal fe glyph < 1336351524 388957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, it's a square < 1336351529 674459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy plays as a flashing rainbow square < 1336351530 294638 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The politically correct term is African-American. < 1336351534 345879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's /meant/ to look like that < 1336351537 482687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: pls TERM=xterm? :( < 1336351540 440885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: shut up < 1336351550 702610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what about looking at it through screen? < 1336351564 642033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the messages, too? < 1336351569 352597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know for a fact it works if you set TERM=xterm, so why bother? < 1336351574 28496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip, eliot is a jerk < 1336351581 225361 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1336351590 516986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :octopode abyssal knight of chei < 1336351591 906222 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDFi < 1336351592 808033 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it was uh seam wasn't it < 1336351596 88851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336351608 952599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to remember where I remember that combo from, it might have been a nemelex choice < 1336351629 213226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what wepon" - monqy < 1336351635 350079 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336351637 940173 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what weapon, i mean < 1336351641 431223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if it was neme choice < 1336351646 566091 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :weapone < 1336351646 911960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you have the best apt for, I guess < 1336351650 642766 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :javs then < 1336351659 744382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"skilles" < 1336351681 269046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336351682 398868 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i oopsed < 1336351684 342336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys crawl has < 1336351687 980945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :swarm problems < 1336351691 151250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336351692 10298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :low hitpoint warning already? < 1336351693 325431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go with something op already < 1336351699 309541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't keep dying < 1336351703 361737 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiiiiine < 1336351703 774629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're still in sight of all three of the entry squares :) < 1336351714 957151 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1336351716 902239 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's op < 1336351718 612358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1336351718 962157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1336351720 309592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tested with < 1336351721 545794 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336351722 314624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ASHAMED < 1336351726 90508 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tested with a LOT OF THINGS < 1336351733 794461 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes im totally ashamed because of how op it is < 1336351739 433113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its fine < 1336351741 257574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we wont judge you < 1336351742 899067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just for testing < 1336351743 9962 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336351756 316513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll accept this convenient fiction and ignore the fact that you obviously always play that combo when offline < 1336351773 466351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does monqys-crawl have the randomised languages and colours and turncount-type-changing built in < 1336351781 505109 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's my .crawlrc < 1336351805 572947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow did you < 1336351807 219383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with full piety < 1336351819 824195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he dropped to five, then back to six the next turn < 1336351819 999552 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone shoulde make a Britishe localisation for Crawle. < 1336351828 592258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess it has some sort of scaling, even more extreme than Sprint's < 1336351836 494244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks more fun than crawl already < 1336351837 492377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Crawl is in British English already, actually < 1336351839 767667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Australian English < 1336351845 899268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it New Zealandish? < 1336351846 19737 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But not Britishe Englishe < 1336351847 403315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you realise you're going to die so hard if you remove upstairs < 1336351851 656147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but much closer to British than American < 1336351867 194849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1336351870 847894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqycrawl reminds me of Sprint a bit < 1336351871 444225 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. Why do you have so much ********? < 1336351874 349827 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i forgot i had a conduct where i didnt take upstairs < 1336351880 435884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it's obviously being scaled < 1336351881 791215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: tell us about why you started with lots of piety :'( < 1336351883 339211 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's kind of like zigsprint < 1336351893 775604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also that's a bad conduct sheeshe!!! < 1336351896 136311 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nope, but i have sprint piety gainsenabled < 1336351898 336719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"upstairs are good" < 1336351900 915994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: actually, that seems like a good game mode < 1336351913 864639 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does? < 1336351914 594069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what does? < 1336351917 755773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :start the player in a zig, put Sprint-like exp gains < 1336351918 719809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "highe five" < 1336351930 166036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :increase the amount of loot somewhat < 1336351935 357718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: zig sprint is a thing, it's not really a zig but < 1336351948 660055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they made a Sprint map that's like a zig? < 1336351954 35448 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336351959 209042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprint v, by st_ < 1336351966 881035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps I'll play that, I prefer Sprint to regular Crawl quite a bit < 1336351972 525653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on CDO? < 1336351977 360262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hmm, are you sure just making maps the full size of the viewport was too small?? < 1336351981 702341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\?\?/?/ < 1336351992 922464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like they're too thin and too tall < 1336351993 669784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336352001 467767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: these are square < 1336352009 475778 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's the shape of your font that makes it seem like that < 1336352014 416642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336352031 907375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the piety scaling might be a bit extreme < 1336352046 986283 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting rid of corpses means getting rid of corpse sacrifices < 1336352053 266062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1336352061 813495 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll see if it's extreme after then < 1336352063 752642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think all the monsters are < 1336352067 299638 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i turned on the sprint stuff just for fun < 1336352067 457129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit too nerfed yeah < 1336352068 615000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh < 1336352074 295950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind of packs you get when going downstairs < 1336352074 826952 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are megabuff < 1336352079 109413 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just don't show up yet < 1336352081 206992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will probably annihilate a low-level player with th enerfing < 1336352082 674752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336352084 74576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the nerfing < 1336352084 996644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversed < 1336352089 304852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336352092 382804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"idke" < 1336352093 150165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't help that I have 10ac. ac is op in monqys-crawl < 1336352115 116981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great segfault < 1336352122 62272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"glah" < 1336352152 458503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this actually looks way better than crawl < 1336352179 25360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1336352183 216210 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told you < 1336352183 890788 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1336352188 700736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're great!! < 1336352247 444516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you went upstairs!!! < 1336352255 80496 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot about hte conduct < 1336352259 290188 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also forgot about the no-resting conduct < 1336352262 836405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"upstairs are great see" < 1336352267 877969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just wired into me from so much crawl play < 1336352269 334622 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i hate it < 1336352272 514760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no-resting is a bit unreasonable if you get poisoned or slow or whatever < 1336352278 615535 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trogs hand < 1336352282 292294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're only removing HP regeneration, right? < 1336352286 323446 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have infinite piety < 1336352293 364623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic/pois/etc. regeneration seem reasonable to keep < 1336352436 787186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yuore skills are default < 1336352437 460058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1336352440 953987 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336352443 212885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336352446 787716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow how are they < 1336352447 998142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that high already < 1336352453 817626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprint xp gains < 1336352464 137381 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i forgot to go upstairs < 1336352466 163476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops it reset you < 1336352469 228444 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336352475 266982 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just dive < 1336352495 176548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :funne < 1336352503 613964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't really < 1336352508 57118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dive in this version < 1336352538 728405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should < 1336352540 480635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do something about that hp < 1336352562 498465 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336352574 354193 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get careless when its too easy and then there's a huge difficulty spike < 1336352577 185828 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl is like that < 1336352586 918136 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is like that < 1336352588 331967 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what to play!! < 1336352598 94719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: octopode chaos knight of chei < 1336352598 796728 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dsbe again? < 1336352600 161158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said before < 1336352602 871327 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336352610 72692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :recipe for humour: chaos knight of chei < 1336352619 866042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :op can't armoure so it might be a bit "difficult" < 1336352631 886411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok armour is monqys-crawl's version of mephitic cloud < 1336352640 593947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dont use it" - monqys-crawl's version of monqy < 1336352733 716329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does this look fun to you i cant tell if im just hallucinating < 1336352735 62563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: good glass < 1336352746 909859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm playing zigsprint instead < 1336352773 415810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: bah, how can i choose between you playing crawl and monqy playing monqys-crawl? < 1336352813 232026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you forgot to remove the monster colour-coding < 1336352826 796345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's low on the priority list < 1336352874 390432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: see that's what i meant by < 1336352877 478561 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :opck "decidedly bad" < 1336352878 79114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dying when going downstairs post-un-nerfing < 1336352885 348459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the no armour simulates the un-nerfing) < 1336352904 671420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not yes < 1336352905 568717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aye" < 1336352923 560157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: try "ye" < 1336352939 34729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do a same letter combo < 1336352939 663686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1336352941 950875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa or pp or whatever < 1336352948 511349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"excitinge variation" < 1336352979 648457 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: * < 1336352987 20509 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, i mean # < 1336352993 626475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wait it < 1336352995 968345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually asks for combination? < 1336352996 306104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336352996 324532 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huae? < 1336352997 687804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because random < 1336353001 553793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huae is < 1336353003 645364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good pronouncing < 1336353004 16573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes < 1336353021 935892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's pronounced like the first word of Beowulf < 1336353046 824414 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s the name of a Chinese network hardware manufacturer. < 1336353048 751799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1336353050 555803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what happened < 1336353056 54883 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deid to ooze < 1336353077 98760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ddbe < 1336353077 626316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1336353080 695837 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336353082 857989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like it accidentally picked you an ok combination < 1336353119 654132 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, i had totally forgotten DDs sense surroundinges. < 1336353164 955319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre deep < 1336353173 27591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the two-headed ogre shouts in stereo!" < 1336353179 886049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im dibs on setting up the first monqys-crawl server < 1336353186 73064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dibs are mine < 1336353193 460317 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336353201 213275 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :p eliot is a jerk's ghost < 1336353214 163364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :jerks_ghost < 1336353222 138931 :jerks_ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :jerks-ghost < 1336353236 991113 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: will you implement monsters following you downstairs please < 1336353238 806151 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanxke < 1336353245 297927 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336353271 192726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"forgot to updsatatairs" < 1336353283 915762 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: thank you you're good person :') < 1336353299 301116 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that also mean you'll remove things teleporting downstairs when they should by rights take multiple turns to get down just because they're right next to you < 1336353303 213533 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(correct answer is yese) < 1336353344 270777 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1336353354 192032 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are duvessa and dowan nerfed too < 1336353365 772007 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone got the same changes applid < 1336353371 239478 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but you said < 1336353376 998943 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some things are bufffffffed < 1336353383 448656 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw you can reply to my messages with : hope this helps < 1336353391 116545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerks-ghost: I knew < 1336353398 452837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just didn't feel like replying earlier < 1336353419 632032 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336353422 385990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, didn't quite last long enough < 1336353428 557477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it turned out not to matter < 1336353442 892520 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Full Pois Slow Exh -cTele < 1336353444 391628 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good combination < 1336353450 449298 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only it was Starving too < 1336353459 571243 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: at least the monsters shield you from the centaur < 1336353468 381619 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gah" -- monqys-crawl < 1336353566 66162 :lexande!~lexande@lenin.ugcs.caltech.edu PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1336353578 258466 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what button did you press by oops < 1336353579 844871 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336353582 364195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ac < 1336353584 157217 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of ab < 1336353586 421244 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1336353601 504922 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you asnwer my regen question i forget < 1336353602 986787 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*answer < 1336353605 578287 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're missing out on monqys-crawl!!! < 1336353606 914592 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1336353638 876091 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you're removing hp gen; i'm assuming you'll leave magic/pois/slow/exh/etc. regen? < 1336353642 940679 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336353659 251112 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, except for magic < 1336353672 589413 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp/magic regen will be handled in similar ways < 1336353680 934847 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic regen seems like < 1336353682 817095 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more of a pain < 1336353685 856630 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget, how are you handling hp regen < 1336353693 437469 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undecided < 1336353697 630984 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make food regen hp for everyone but "woops no corpsen" < 1336353715 862252 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe leave corpsen and just make them regen hp instead of the hunger mechanic???) < 1336353774 544116 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating is bad tho < 1336353785 333727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would rather just atuomatically just regain hp from kile < 1336353804 858245 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't help if you need hp regenerating later on after kille < 1336353817 575686 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336353820 43539 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't! < 1336353823 176038 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do hp on kill + remove max hp < 1336353824 643620 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd of makh sure doesn't mind < 1336353836 376008 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that killing increases max hp instead of hp if you're at max < 1336353839 271056 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336353841 831450 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :max hp and hp rather < 1336353845 396165 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe just max hp???) < 1336353864 116788 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if that would have any downsides or whatever "i d k"??? it's "just an idea" < 1336353868 3043 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336354218 839967 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what happpended < 1336354220 727818 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in monqys-crawl, levels take a long time to generate because of how small they are < 1336354249 69539 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be stuck vetoing everyyyyyyything < 1336354253 978662 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it < 1336354256 475867 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally hung < 1336354256 883279 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336354265 761027 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it may have actually hung itself rip < 1336354273 85932 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"attach gdb to it" < 1336354276 278605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll put it out of its misery and try again < 1336354285 515607 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1336354293 494642 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what did you thinke about < 1336354296 158755 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :above ideae ^ < 1336354301 198714 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whihc < 1336354314 689847 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:23 you could do hp on kill + remove max hp < 1336354314 826503 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:23 dd of makh sure doesn't mind < 1336354314 934299 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 so that killing increases max hp instead of hp if you're at max < 1336354316 256633 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 well < 1336354318 259143 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 max hp and hp rather < 1336354320 263850 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 (or maybe just max hp???) < 1336354322 256528 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 dunno if that would have any downsides or whatever "i d k"??? it's "just an idea" < 1336354347 581836 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336354364 819727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how that would work out < 1336354369 735972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that explains why people hate torment, at least < 1336354379 990767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mummy level? < 1336354383 696611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336354393 271177 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what happend < 1336354400 894234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tormented repeatedly and then poked to death < 1336354405 298238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't out-regen them < 1336354414 870506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they also killed the berserking trolls really quickly < 1336354520 37490 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well the idea would be: remove increasing max hp on level up < 1336354542 926892 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336354545 934067 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nuts slime critter < 1336354609 291244 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they < 1336354611 249769 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard in monqys-crawl < 1336354615 600943 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they merge and < 1336354616 265089 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent seen < 1336354620 187257 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything hard in monqys-crawl yet!!! < 1336354623 84872 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i know what slime creatures do < 1336354628 771702 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one got to enourmouse, ie 88dam < 1336354635 682152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with maxdam that's uh < 1336354637 773713 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :88dam < 1336354642 210296 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i subtract ac so < 1336354644 155593 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than that but < 1336354647 61361 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you get the idea" < 1336354653 470341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerks-ghost: they're designed to punish fighting in corridors < 1336354666 411928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and interpret everywhere as a corridor in a level as confined as a monqys-crawl level < 1336354684 581170 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl must be gr8 for characters that are claustrophobic < 1336354792 310010 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yaktaur captain sounds like fune < 1336354812 82157 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yake < 1336354832 538671 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do the changes you made < 1336354834 9298 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :affect the branches < 1336354842 181190 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they affect everything < 1336354849 87634 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably make branch endings crash < 1336354858 539942 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: go to the temple :D < 1336354921 163104 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1336354963 840268 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine i'll go to the termplel < 1336354973 788828 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank < 1336354991 753672 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr8 < 1336354991 874184 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hapy? < 1336354993 726019 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hapy < 1336354998 247400 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now go to lair < 1336354999 947919 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336355000 610087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you kiled < 1336355001 671924 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1336355002 768162 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever < 1336355003 433963 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336355004 538360 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its GONE < 1336355012 255586 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe try again??? < 1336355013 230298 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill < 1336355013 928050 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :revive < 1336355014 413339 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll continue playing my testing gam < 1336355026 136239 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i br b for one second < 1336355061 608978 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im bake < 1336355075 556870 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did i miss anything < 1336355092 319790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfau < 1336355097 371149 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1336355118 187668 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right in this game I have ignite blood and a vampiric battleaxe < 1336355175 81407 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do mutations come more often since < 1336355177 374405 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprint < 1336355185 198717 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336355186 968529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336355190 978250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gain levels more often < 1336355191 386252 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336355193 144713 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl sounds like < 1336355196 182743 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jog < 1336355196 778156 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336355197 777093 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brisk walk < 1336355202 66636 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(compared to crawl, sprint) < 1336355217 380824 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told you it's not presentable yet :| < 1336355226 494116 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt say that was a bad thing!!! < 1336355228 838159 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks great fun < 1336355240 948403 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd crash when going into zot too right < 1336355253 578849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zot:5 for sure < 1336355326 634292 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you not been using wizmode for testing? < 1336355334 454170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wizmode is for cheaters < 1336355340 36646 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1336355437 419831 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi urug < 1336355442 463728 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi haurice < 1336355448 749477 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi joseph < 1336355585 569257 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good level < 1336355630 843416 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336355631 608814 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1336355637 215718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the action < 1336355639 118483 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336355640 27529 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1336355643 849837 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it < 1336355645 143183 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ltos of monsters < 1336355654 546152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every square had a monster < 1336355664 126732 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nioce < 1336355668 618164 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should make there only be one downstair wit < 1336355669 652652 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*with < 1336355671 765097 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind of levels you generate < 1336355673 187270 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spawned next to a giant spore, which killed everything except me (barely), a hill giant(which it confused) and a centaur (which was outside the blast radious) < 1336355682 126546 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerks-ghost: that's on the todo list < 1336355717 920335 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops you died < 1336355721 554659 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336355732 336713 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of dsbe and trbe eh < 1336355738 401308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336355741 761416 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"testing" < 1336355742 114355 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're revealing your TRUE PREFERENCES!!! < 1336355743 943342 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*PREFERENCES < 1336355746 363462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336355747 959536 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get back to my < 1336355749 21603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homework < 1336355757 295113 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are shamed!!! < 1336355823 5665 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im jerks-ghost forever now btw < 1336355842 354770 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you die < 1336355860 636187 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, rip, im ded < 1336355866 625911 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i want to play monqys-crawl :( < 1336355884 343636 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you ever heard of "commit early commit often"!!!!!!!! < 1336355888 435913 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336355889 861947 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i commit what i have, segfaults and all < 1336355936 725017 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336355944 184977 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it all going to be in one big commit < 1336355952 549664 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the git user inside me is sobbing < 1336355996 191946 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336356009 723339 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally i try to commit early and often!! monqys-crawl is just an exception < 1336356025 989375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wherein i just wanted to play around < 1336356040 559668 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do what i do < 1336356050 553712 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do a bunch of changes and then use git commit -p < 1336356051 226522 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1336356055 324440 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you have to stash half-way through < 1336356059 133118 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reverse some commits and uh < 1336356061 430913 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can get kinda messy < 1336356074 34769 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :once i had a commit session that lasted a few hours on mchost < 1336356083 10278 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aahhhh < 1336356085 843383 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how do i do this < 1336356093 840419 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's uhh i < 1336356096 369483 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really wouldn't recommend it < 1336356100 219416 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336356100 271447 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336356101 591749 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git commit -p < 1336356103 865229 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :presents you all the hunks < 1336356105 653316 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one big commit for now? < 1336356106 730601 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lets you y/n them < 1336356108 353361 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1336356110 954920 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just commits those < 1336356114 212838 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336356118 306422 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's OK; it's when you have more complex requirements that it gets < 1336356118 879968 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not ok < 1336356123 576978 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you have changes that both touched the same place < 1336356125 991842 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you want them in separate commits < 1336356133 806543 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's stash and restash and apply and modify and uugh time < 1336356183 785393 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336356185 747377 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git commit -p is ok < 1336356271 227466 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice self-self-portrait < 1336356285 154399 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i forgot a few selfs :( < 1336356298 813827 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dind't you see it already before? did i accidentally make another < 1336356306 540677 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gitorious.org/~monqy < 1336356326 450129 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use git add -p < 1336356337 483519 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but then you have to git commit!!! < 1336356341 155192 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336356351 547597 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :life's a bitch < 1336356424 151682 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: alternatively: just do it all in one big commit if you would instead give up < 1336356465 114134 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shouldn't you be doing it in a branch though) oh wait there's no commits < 1336356473 173775 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't do it in another branch its boreing) < 1336356490 309519 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i made the comites < 1336356498 507908 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hapy < 1336356500 101711 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1336356507 460529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing what in a branch < 1336356514 564732 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl < 1336356527 22944 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boring < 1336356533 519103 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"technically" git "accepted wisdom" would have it in a branch if you had any pretenses about merging it back into crawl itself < 1336356551 977787 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok now do the push :'( < 1336356553 327146 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they'd accept my changes < 1336356567 189427 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also uhhhh does it put stuff in my home directory or whatever < 1336356574 441719 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think so < 1336356575 507891 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to push!!! < 1336356585 340414 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im learn < 1336356635 253743 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: git push < 1336356640 847367 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that was hard" < 1336356642 423248 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336356700 780093 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWSS < 1336356710 50394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336356719 46269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on you can do better than that, ion < 1336356723 496245 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWSS < 1336356727 583062 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coycdbtti < 1336356731 943242 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: stop it already < 1336356737 336732 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWSS < 1336356752 18407 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi" - she < 1336356768 665008 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“that” –she < 1336356776 791626 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plonk < 1336357025 464631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i < 1336357027 946902 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think i psuhed < 1336357033 267873 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one waty to foidn out" < 1336357045 576585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there it goes < 1336357064 868907 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i just remembered i forgot to make the code look presentable too < 1336357066 951752 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i don't see them < 1336357072 74572 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :refersh < 1336357078 189254 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gitorious.org/~monqy/crawl/monqys-crawl < 1336357079 788630 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elp < 1336357081 12971 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*h < 1336357090 94569 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh its on your user page < 1336357103 732283 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: your commit messages are lowercase :'( < 1336357114 85922 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was i suposed to upercase them < 1336357117 393309 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i do soemthing wrong < 1336357118 667372 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heLP < 1336357137 249338 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crawle repo uses "Blah blah blah blah." (but "Blah blah blah blah" is the git standard (but crawl adds .s too)) < 1336357140 379611 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok ill just judge you < 1336357148 643796 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wouldn't it have been simpler to just < 1336357150 53762 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :override crawl_state.game_is_sprint < 1336357150 127848 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never should have comited < 1336357152 835321 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just < 1336357153 435470 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking < 1336357153 994461 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not < 1336357155 262092 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesnt work < 1336357162 541278 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was my first try < 1336357162 602429 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not complaining!! im just judging < 1336357165 944900 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: huh why not < 1336357167 677498 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336357170 378485 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336357172 210532 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of ucriosirty < 1336357172 258312 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tries to load sprint maps < 1336357173 495781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336357181 637265 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336357189 910223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt have the sprint map thingy set so < 1336357191 505227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt work < 1336357195 191986 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336357210 520952 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : defender->heal(1 + random2avg(7, 2), true); // heh heh < 1336357210 694471 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2159 defender->heal(1 + 7, true); // heh heh < 1336357211 473556 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh < 1336357218 306198 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("1 + 7" goode) < 1336357221 877530 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transmogrify the tribbles (title without a dot in the end) < 1336357223 674070 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(empty line) < 1336357231 316785 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect the optomizer to catch that < 1336357240 177542 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : const int damage = 5 + random2(10); < 1336357240 249200 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1950 const int damage = 5 + (10); < 1336357240 504603 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :An optional longer explanation for the commit, potentially multiple lines/paragraphs. < 1336357242 328039 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goode < 1336357243 184933 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's where distortion heals blink frogs < 1336357249 936208 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the parens this time < 1336357250 963358 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the number < 1336357256 453558 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : beam.damage.num += 2; < 1336357256 527265 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1848 beam.damage.num *= 2; < 1336357259 377023 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not fair! < 1336357276 571767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i do there i forget < 1336357281 917933 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure i had a good reason < 1336357281 975942 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idae < 1336357283 805271 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*idea < 1336357289 851515 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im going to < 1336357291 699106 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile monqys-crawl < 1336357298 235946 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hav fun" < 1336357332 264798 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i get it working maybe i'll remove identification or something "getting my toes wet in the water that is the crawl codebase" < 1336357341 804605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i remember why i did that thing < 1336357361 868377 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered just < 1336357364 310258 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverting that commit < 1336357368 764470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in crawl when you lrd certain monsters it either instakills them or adds 2 damage < 1336357385 548670 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got rid of the instakill and changed add 2 to multipl;y by 2 < 1336357389 805099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think what i did was fair!! < 1336357397 395790 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont mean < 1336357398 124664 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that part < 1336357399 400256 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean al lthe < 1336357405 99160 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrandomisde parts that made every monster either terrible or too good < 1336357423 329980 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336357429 149266 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe you should have split the lrd part into another commit!!!) < 1336357438 182749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336357448 588100 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( -- the lrd part < 1336357451 650665 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not good enough" -- the lrd part < 1336357471 427489 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow its slow to downloade < 1336357569 799318 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it < 1336357570 134800 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336357571 174810 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :downloaded < 1336357587 153105 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how do i build crawl :( < 1336357590 717885 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make < 1336357595 854811 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does -j3 work < 1336357599 415476 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :duno < 1336357605 397995 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does -j3 work < 1336357614 799422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1336357626 999060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not going to remove unrandomisation but i'll probably twaeak it and also other monster-related things < 1336357628 357471 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: /Developer/SDKs: No such file or directory < 1336357628 494305 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makefile:412: *** You do not seem to have any Mac OS X SDKs installed! This build is doomed to fail. Stop. < 1336357631 736910 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makefile is out of date!!! < 1336357636 410160 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what do you have against random :'( < 1336357647 841643 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its kind of boring if fights are predetermined! < 1336357648 530352 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random in crawl is pretty annoying < 1336357658 227830 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't have to be in monqys-crawl!! < 1336357700 139610 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: will you accept patches to make it work with xcode 4.something < 1336357711 913897 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1336357747 329889 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh its < 1336357748 907391 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really ingrained < 1336357749 921581 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really those should be going to the normal crawl gus < 1336357776 416341 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want to associate with them!!! < 1336357791 343650 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiine < 1336357804 56358 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the path is < 1336357807 863943 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs < 1336357919 304778 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makefile:447: *** The Mac OS X /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs: SDK seems missing. Stop. < 1336357921 861737 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is < 1336357922 422010 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pain < 1336357933 47445 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey, crawl < 1336357996 521133 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh this is < 1336357997 80640 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awful < 1336358005 186408 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im juts going to < 1336358006 82892 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hack it up < 1336358091 431336 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im git submodule update < 1336358101 413762 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how does it decide whether to build tiles or not < 1336358106 217895 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it decides to tiles on os x < 1336358112 258220 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say make TILES=y it tileses < 1336358121 563246 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe make tiles makes tiles too < 1336358124 592024 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk ive never made tiles < 1336358130 118113 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cloning into 'crawl-ref/source/contrib/pcre'... < 1336358130 255337 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly < 1336358130 357731 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clone of 'git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-pcre.git' into submodule path 'crawl-ref/source/contrib/pcre' failed < 1336358131 716844 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336358135 1330 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh now it works < 1336358144 801824 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? < 1336358153 675935 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it failed but < 1336358154 687187 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it worked < 1336358157 481304 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im updating the submodules < 1336358226 491679 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No TILE defined for 'milk chocolate' < 1336358226 628045 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No TILE defined for 'dark chocolate' < 1336358227 887802 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh NO!!! < 1336358333 584787 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realized a brain/computer interface could be called a silicon implant. < 1336358353 446844 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could it? < 1336358466 814126 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is slow to compile!!!!!!! < 1336358471 907293 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336358474 567346 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's fun < 1336358477 368219 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :touching a header < 1336358482 332750 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then everything recompiles < 1336358513 42377 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"c++" < 1336358546 552471 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :herks-ghost < 1336358589 762500 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this "ur permenant nikc" < 1336358623 684229 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : CXX rltiles/tiledef-feat.o < 1336358624 109822 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336358627 145888 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like tiles to me ! < 1336358632 89352 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: so uhhh < 1336358633 534559 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i start ./crawl < 1336358636 792870 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it put stuff in my home directory < 1336358646 550033 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think so < 1336358650 983324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hop not" < 1336358658 144975 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336358662 192604 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :high scores and stuff? < 1336358666 987501 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katia:source elliott$ ./crawl < 1336358667 123064 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./dat/des/altar/altar.des:279: Map too large - 20x7 (max 16x16) < 1336358667 194903 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help. < 1336358674 871628 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that goes in source/something/somethingesel i think < 1336358680 172068 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ar you termckasting < 1336358685 964912 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336358689 391159 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't astart < 1336358690 613962 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katia:source elliott$ ./crawl < 1336358690 750234 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./dat/des/altar/altar.des:279: Map too large - 20x7 (max 16x16) < 1336358692 71126 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should nt it be < 1336358693 383445 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :24x24 < 1336358696 465040 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no is it < 1336358697 845095 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it broken < 1336358701 770887 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it get broke < 1336358707 778645 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336358708 267012 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1336358711 766363 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prints that every time < 1336358713 756222 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git diff < 1336358715 941713 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::[ < 1336358717 695680 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you have uncommitted stuffes < 1336358725 347307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt say so!! < 1336358752 140968 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336358754 500704 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type make < 1336358755 876822 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work for you < 1336358774 617811 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1336358775 502893 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the resulting < 1336358775 994983 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary < 1336358818 557494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works for me yes < 1336358831 6220 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d: < 1336358831 856781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336358833 165174 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make clean < 1336358833 635185 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make < 1336358838 232483 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336358840 682214 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had a thing where you < 1336358842 408806 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deleted lots of files < 1336358846 110583 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was altar.des meant to be one of them < 1336358849 450480 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess not since < 1336358852 75702 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20x7 < 24x24 < 1336358853 65326 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uhhh < 1336358860 213008 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah make clean && make and maybe then it'll break? because < 1336358862 939332 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it thinks the maximum is 16x16 < 1336358872 70354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i made clean and am mak < 1336359093 375691 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1336359109 160345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mak taks tim < 1336359156 718716 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should add a new god called Maktakstim < 1336359165 639910 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the god of slowness O H W A I T < 1336359337 117392 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uh < 1336359338 328269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still works < 1336359341 19895 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? < 1336359357 661379 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlep < 1336359402 456652 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336359406 178448 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try cloning a new repo? < 1336359503 543859 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1336359504 663219 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :building that < 1336359505 677966 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uhhh < 1336359506 196013 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-k < 1336359514 927504 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i think it might have built with tiles?? < 1336359520 310421 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :waht < 1336359523 321286 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336359523 385244 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try < 1336359523 838423 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :os x < 1336359525 525033 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :building with < 1336359526 980315 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not tiles < 1336359532 72691 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should make TILES=n work < 1336359537 516004 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ! < 1336359542 158204 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ＯＨ ＷＡＩＴ < 1336359660 483322 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tool/tile.cc:9:25: warning: SDL_image.h: No such file or directory < 1336359660 621423 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tool/tile.cc: In member function ‘bool tile::load(const std::string&)’: < 1336359660 693373 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tool/tile.cc:381: error: ‘IMG_Load’ was not declared in this scope < 1336359662 63354 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make[1]: *** [tool/tile.o] Error 1 < 1336359664 61974 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make: *** [build-rltiles] Error 2 < 1336359666 59476 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336359668 60683 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did < 1336359670 82895 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make -C rltiles all ARCH=x86_64-apple-darwin11.3.0 TILES=n < 1336359701 16391 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: where's the < 1336359702 720924 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :building documentation < 1336359723 426247 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did oyu do the git submodule --init thing but really you shouldn--it's somewhere--'t need to build rltiles if you're not tiles ????? maybe crawls build just dum < 1336359740 10535 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: where's the < 1336359741 395430 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :building documentation < 1336359763 21145 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere!! < 1336359784 584209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads try this i think it has some documentat < 1336359804 664421 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no theres < 1336359805 206332 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a file < 1336359806 64192 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with info < 1336359815 148240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forget where that is < 1336359819 855394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"woops" < 1336359826 469492 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's in like < 1336359828 589866 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Typical parameters: < 1336359828 726218 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# TILES -- set to anything to enable tiles build < 1336359829 865121 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the doc foler < 1336359830 983117 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo thats misleading < 1336359831 303056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or somethin < 1336359835 844726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336359839 993137 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's awful < 1336359841 995892 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's < 1336359843 740260 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the doc folder < 1336359849 135612 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sourc tre < 1336359857 666167 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :greet: < 1336359857 753250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be docs < 1336359857 804673 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : @printf " * If you experience any problems building Crawl, please take a second look\\n"\ < 1336359857 876780 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : " * at INSTALL.txt: the solution to your problem just might be in there!\\n" < 1336359859 267416 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336359925 213457 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mac builds use the Unix build process described above, but require you < 1336359925 349989 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to add 'APPLE_GCC=y' to the 'make' command-line. In addition, to build the < 1336359925 422130 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphical version of Crawl, you must add 'NO_PKGCONFIG=y' and < 1336359926 809645 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'CONTRIB_SDL=y'. < 1336359928 811682 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creis < 1336359933 731264 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im try < 1336359934 972452 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :APPLE_GCC=y < 1336359943 551041 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can you check that < 1336359945 822070 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat/des/altar/altar.des < 1336359946 873942 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exists for oyu < 1336359949 843470 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you < 1336359975 818493 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1336359976 957070 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im all headachey and bleh i blame crawl < 1336359994 660516 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im make from the fresh clone now < 1336360228 282770 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :little did know when monqy forked crawl < 1336360231 540386 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that he would have to support it < 1336360240 485065 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336360247 369261 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want to support it can i unfork it < 1336360260 230886 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336360267 636975 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no going back < 1336360326 105074 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerks-ghost: why are you called "jerks-ghost", jerks-ghost < 1336360453 4552 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did it work < 1336360476 348702 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok FINALLY it break < 1336360514 400656 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now < 1336360518 484094 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: diff your two directories < 1336360519 576963 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336360520 381263 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something < 1336360523 339652 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait! < 1336360524 743119 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try < 1336360526 786988 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git diff --cached < 1336360530 783586 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the < 1336360534 185499 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :old directory < 1336360534 890436 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just < 1336360538 569114 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff the two directories but i'd do that first < 1336360700 952059 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: if diff says theres no differences ill < 1336360702 540450 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scream < 1336360745 852103 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :screm < 1336360787 436165 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net NICK :TeruFSX < 1336360794 293440 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you srs < 1336360795 626877 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you < 1336360797 227219 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff it correctly < 1336360810 881113 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff -r dir1 dir2 < 1336360816 178068 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh -u too i guess < 1336360858 732926 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the onlllllly thing i can find that diffffers that i think might make adifference is < 1336360869 809066 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :saves/des < 1336360882 855674 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1336360894 2078 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks suspicious to me!!! < 1336360895 150089 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure enough i remvo and it break < 1336360904 979134 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336360911 695106 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now what went wrong !! < 1336360912 92833 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the error is < 1336360915 305005 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:45 ./dat/des/altar/altar.des:279: Map too large - 20x7 (max 16x16) < 1336360918 9563 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i bet somewhere you have 16 < 1336360919 261237 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you meant 24 < 1336360925 39232 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love assumptions like this in math questions: “The person is entirely made of water, which weighs 1kg/L.” < 1336360927 485182 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you divided by two once too many or something!!! < 1336360931 409247 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1336360932 252026 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix that < 1336360942 271728 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least there's not many places it can be < 1336360952 174920 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336360989 794307 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can even < 1336360992 620615 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :narrow it down < 1336360995 770886 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336361004 533012 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its either < 1336361005 547911 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gitorious.org/~monqy/crawl/monqys-crawl/commit/934ebc7df7933d82e37bf959b5e62c749a2efffc < 1336361009 116172 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or http://gitorious.org/~monqy/crawl/monqys-crawl/commit/fc9667dff88582d60a78de5b4bc36074c69dcb98 (<-- less likely) < 1336361166 69432 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll think about it when i have less homwork < 1336361176 661341 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi does elliott have me on /ignore < 1336361184 35815 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1336361193 233250 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does he just h8 me :( < 1336361197 548783 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1336361225 36761 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that thing at the end of your sentence < 1336361234 174152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1336361247 312642 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i have to go "oops" < 1336361257 986774 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonqy < 1336361340 109529 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may never get to play monqys-crawl :'( < 1336361927 934467 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336362274 182291 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1336363283 319394 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1336363296 605122 :jerks-ghost!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336363403 276772 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1336364163 465327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336364393 245315 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336364942 635537 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336365162 418434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 TOPIC #esoteric :It looks like a pipe, but it is not. Anemometers don't fire bullets. Not even the explosive ones! Or I don't think they do ... if they do, meteorologists are more hardcore than I thought possible. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1336365211 4632 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ceci n'est pas une pipe? < 1336365623 927923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336366688 866083 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1336367326 239475 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1336370472 771559 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336370488 214023 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ceci n'est pas une "ceci n'est pas une pipe". < 1336370512 534264 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is french weirde < 1336370527 359332 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be like english < 1336370553 339977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The French musta thought English should be more like French. < 1336370558 318713 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence the invasion. < 1336370626 184472 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-112.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336370678 346544 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1336371120 798719 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :latin meets german did it < 1336371313 601058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is Arthur Mometer? < 1336371358 493331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 TOPIC #esoteric :It looks like a pipe, but it is not. Astronomers don't fire bullets. Not even the explosive ones! Or I don't think they do ... if they do, meteors are even more hardcore than I thought possible. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1336371981 920280 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott By the way, the "unordered tuple" thing is just n-choose-k. < 1336371981 992524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336372012 528111 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@telliott < 1336372012 657500 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1336372031 760236 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thion < 1336372594 597696 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott OK, maybe not quite. < 1336372594 669732 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336372707 807100 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unordered tuple? multiset? < 1336372838 78926 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott (n + k - 1) choose (k - 1)? < 1336372838 180427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336372847 942382 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Of a particular size. < 1336372857 431098 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336372885 504428 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that (n + k - 1) choose (k - 1) thing called "multichoose" too < 1336372939 609630 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, do you know why -fstack-protector would have a much higher relative performance impact on an Atom N270 than a Core 2 Duo? < 1336372948 501863 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I haven't heard that. < 1336372964 962196 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have! < 1336372970 562968 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Nope. < 1336372975 910454 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any more details? < 1336372992 129846 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about all i have < 1336373002 696975 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did you measure it? < 1336373020 953546 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i used GCC 4.4 and 4.6 respectively, so that might be it < 1336373031 20347 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ran a Mosh benchmark program a few times < 1336373056 669403 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should try profiling it. < 1336373063 732836 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea whether that'll yield any insights. < 1336373082 99025 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :function-level profiling probably will not < 1336373090 119518 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since each function has its own copy of the stack-check code < 1336373116 261341 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that could be why, actually. < 1336373121 390924 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i-cache blowout < 1336373134 218376 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, instruction-level profiling. < 1336373150 929591 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to do that, and i don't know if the Atom has the right CPU features < 1336373158 442869 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like a reasonable theory. How much code does it actually generate? < 1336373179 929553 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Linux program "perf" makes at least some kinds of instruction-level profiling pretty easy, I think. < 1336373183 190759 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also oprofile. < 1336373200 665541 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also don't have the Atom machine handy anymore :/ < 1336373221 398664 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use perf anyway! < 1336373226 125589 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nifty. < 1336373226 590671 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336373285 493555 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was also thinking it could be bad branch prediction < 1336373292 680130 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i can only speculate < 1336373342 413783 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: apt-get install linux-base # maybe?; perf record ./blah; perf annotate < 1336373653 368342 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: thonqy < 1336373658 149318 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good operation. < 1336373701 338556 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: on amd64 it adds at least 25 bytes to each function < 1336373739 627438 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-fstack-protector is for people who make mistakes. Just don't make mistakes. < 1336373746 855924 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1336374095 904979 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i write all my source code compressed to save keystrokes < 1336374201 802024 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might as well write the binary directly then because making changes to any part of that code will entail rewriting most of it < 1336374279 420750 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. i write the binary compressed.. < 1336374457 182852 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336374549 101853 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : PK  A,8 < 1336374552 687065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write the binary directly, it makes the program less portable and less adjustable, I would think. Still, for sufficiently small and simple programs it may be useful. < 1336374575 98074 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it requires a lot of messing around with the Alt key though < 1336374585 865631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Is this in ZIP format? < 1336374600 966416 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. wow.. nice spotting. < 1336374615 572901 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "PK" kind of gave it away < 1336374617 622322 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not quite genuine though.. i faked some parts of it < 1336374640 323386 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.. for all those people who know that zip files start with a PK when viewed as ascii :P < 1336374647 642137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PK followed by CTRL+C and CTRL+D is what made me realize; these are the first four bytes of any ZIP file. < 1336374647 996169 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a dead giveaway :-s < 1336374671 877044 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest of the code is faked with spaces etc < 1336374718 599710 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm.. im just being silly of course < 1336374830 446778 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was inspired by shachaf's comment about not making mistakes < 1336374870 890110 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: you're a Real Hacker < 1336374975 522869 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the code gets about 12% bigger with stack-smashing protection < 1336374978 845917 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on 32-bit now) < 1336374981 159386 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not trying to hide the fact i took a zipfile(instead of traditionally open compression format) and opened it in Windows wordpad and pasted the first few chars < 1336375031 109178 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the fact that producing source code in compressed format would be computationally more expensive < 1336375075 676678 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That's a bigger increase than I thought. < 1336375080 118282 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that... could explain a 20% performance hit? < 1336375085 738491 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1336375086 533120 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe? < 1336375090 360688 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should profile it. :-) < 1336375099 80409 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if I care enough to dig deep on this < 1336375104 145631 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be cool to learn how to do that < 1336375110 162648 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have so many other things i could do < 1336375120 509172 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to blog post it and hope someone else tells me the answer < 1336375121 749397 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think it would be cool in a sci fi kind of way to be able to type data in compressed format < 1336375149 740763 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorthand < 1336375156 815953 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I would measure it but I don't have a program or an Atom CPU handy. < 1336375164 860583 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stenotype < 1336375176 708920 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But perf etc. can measure icache misses pretty easily, I think. < 1336375179 360230 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :court stenographers are the true cyberpunk heros < 1336375181 15447 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336375196 202072 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program is in Mosh; i can send you a link < 1336375207 193693 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard of that program once. < 1336375246 696612 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm oh I do have an Atom machine I forgot about < 1336375253 783558 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's running a weird Linux distro < 1336375270 503417 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't make a big difference, I think. < 1336375271 864772 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not the same one I did the original measurements on < 1336375286 275892 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can't reproduce the original measurements on, even better! < 1336375288 892761 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not turned on < 1336375294 356907 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch. < 1336375295 888993 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd have to walk all the way upstairs < 1336375298 339943 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, unpossible. < 1336375305 49241 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even plugged in, man! < 1336375330 905819 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1336375342 642195 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the forces of curiosity and laziness are doing battle in my head < 1336375380 384501 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do it, laziness! < 1336375383 53472 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unpossible = simpsons reference 1. maybe. airconditioner fighting the heater in the rental car is the second. < 1336375414 592581 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should "learn" to do simple instruction-level profiling. < 1336375417 798293 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fun to a point. < 1336375423 257560 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And perf has this fancy TUI. < 1336375482 251121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine i'll at least see if perf can get cache misses on atom < 1336375506 542025 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll use the same Atom machine I used before (but not the same OS install) < 1336375512 896693 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not ideal because it's under load < 1336375521 509763 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Load? < 1336375559 325789 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, no I don't have that machine at all < 1336375564 543508 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in new york city < 1336375576 580652 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many netbooks < 1336375600 730890 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i have has a 900 MHz Celeron M, not an Atom < 1336375791 3247 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it < 1336375798 939276 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let the internet sort this one out < 1336375951 981349 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAZINESS WINS AGAIN < 1336376048 502710 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's 12% bigger because we stack protect *every* function < 1336376058 741617 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just protect the ones with bugs in them. < 1336376062 516772 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the ones with no buffers < 1336376074 978729 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i might have to upgrade gcc to get that feature < 1336376121 209068 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you know Either (Nat,Nat) Nat is an even type, but (Nat,Nat) isn't? < 1336376147 409754 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Better: annotate the ones with bugs in them. < 1336376160 383726 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, you can stick every single statement in its own function! < 1336376197 893429 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Did you know Either (Nat,Nat) Nat is an even type, but (Nat,Nat) isn't? Becuase of the extra diagonal. < 1336376197 953484 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336376212 209774 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an even type? < 1336376234 598854 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Also it's actually just (n + k - 1) choose k, for the sensible value of k < 1336376234 707516 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336376241 128141 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: A type you can divide by 2. < 1336376251 840934 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example Bool is even but Maybe Bool isn't. < 1336376265 536437 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't read that paper on quotient types or whatever < 1336376271 33677 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't either. < 1336376275 325690 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336376286 864819 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1336376287 733627 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just #haskell-blah gossip with dolio. < 1336376307 533006 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It makes some sense for (n^2 + n) to be even for any value of n. < 1336376315 29907 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:33 < dolio> The reason is, I guess, that Left (n, n) is the same as Right n, and Left (m, n) is the same as Left (n, m), so there are two of every thing you want to make into one element. < 1336376318 969240 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:34 < dolio> You can't just divide Nat * Nat by 2, though, because there is only one of each of the diagonal. < 1336376322 58115 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:34 < dolio> You have to add an extra diagonal to it. < 1336376466 330321 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what even finite types are but even infinite types are a bit weirder. < 1336376492 624397 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Nat is also even. < 1336376503 978647 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1336376518 47580 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure either makes sense. < 1336376522 805307 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nat = 1 + Nat, after all. < 1336376792 81414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me what half of (Either (Nat,Nat) Nat) is? < 1336376832 721609 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :An unordered pair of Nats. < 1336376896 976059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336376907 980182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prove it < 1336376911 969411 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in general for a finite type x, (x^2+x)/2 is an unordered pair of xs. < 1336376927 541434 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: See dolio's thing above for a mapping. < 1336376946 396696 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that it's valid for infinite types, but take it for arbitrary finite types instead. :-) < 1336377359 233137 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.168.141 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336377726 531851 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't even type just mean there's a cycle of length two through which you can create a quotient < 1336377775 332879 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if yes then it's fairly obvious anything with a binary choice in series with other type features will be even < 1336377858 140150 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked dolio's explanation < 1336377893 14175 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really like the fact that this channel is talking about haskell, even though it's not really an esolang < 1336378021 796724 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR IS IT?????? < 1336378022 152205 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't? < 1336378032 387962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang is in the eye of the beholder < 1336378034 201584 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i use it at my job < 1336378041 39202 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh really < 1336378043 211783 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's totally in the industry < 1336378047 173570 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use it for? < 1336378055 169343 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you tell #haskell? did they cream their pants? < 1336378061 413134 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told you the last thing i used it for < 1336378061 460865 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc +1 < 1336378070 177935 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you creamed your pants < 1336378073 897491 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336378075 805105 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1336378081 555770 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that was a lie because your pants were probably off already < 1336378084 948842 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336378089 617443 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's really no reason to wear pants < 1336378096 889577 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're having guests < 1336378100 111354 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah right) < 1336378139 260531 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah when i have guests over, i have to put pants on < 1336378142 798782 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes they come off though < 1336378175 554590 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like when the mormons come over for a bible talk? < 1336378184 439343 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336378188 897872 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :love thy brother < 1336378221 889054 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :highlight of yesterday's visit to hi-fi tradeshow: audiophile breakers < 1336378306 188022 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold-plated contacts n' all < 1336378524 276055 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :circuit breakers? < 1336378532 734975 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1336378543 158093 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff that's in your breaker box < 1336378543 521351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Zero; data UnordNatTag :: * -> * where { Z :: UnordNatTag Zero; S :: UnordNatTag x -> UnordNatTag (Maybe x); }; type UnordNatPair = DSum UnordNatTag; Is this a correct way of an unordered pair of natural numbers? < 1336378555 110508 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336378558 732100 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a hell of an industry < 1336378562 54890 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get into it < 1336378566 674916 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocaine's a hell of a drug < 1336378567 286445 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have special food for audiophiles yet? < 1336378571 147431 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have special food for gamers < 1336378576 80017 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do? < 1336378582 283550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336378585 263387 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen special food for geeks < 1336378587 132707 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu cola < 1336378591 649245 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336378593 415294 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seen ubuntu cola? < 1336378596 795533 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a thing in london < 1336378612 687330 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Cola < 1336378616 649310 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gamergrub.com/ < 1336378624 618684 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336378637 161814 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's not really related to the OS? < 1336378641 959824 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336378648 233788 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still an african scam though < 1336378649 20106 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad < 1336378655 74402 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :419 cola < 1336378660 471925 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1336378684 641962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :419 scam westerners every day < 1336378686 967937 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do much better than audiophile stuff. < 1336378689 634955 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homeopathy! < 1336378689 734021 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"boost your game with gamer grub" < 1336378693 261456 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fucking quaint < 1336378705 703609 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: oh yeah, that's really good too < 1336378712 591980 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyways < 1336378713 405367 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, combine them. < 1336378719 555301 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homeopathic audiophile equipment. < 1336378747 894072 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this western electric stuff, i've seen a recreation of it < 1336378755 279980 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one tweeter cost 9000 euro < 1336378759 928581 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each box contains a 50X solution of Sennheiser headphones, making your audio experience the best it can be!" < 1336378769 253852 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's like an electromagnet and a small horn and that's it < 1336378783 436969 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing you couldn't do on a rotary mill < 1336378888 446553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know answer for my question above? < 1336378993 549762 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not i, perhaps try to explain your reasoning? < 1336379050 215982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336379095 479227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using the DSum type from "dependent-sum" package; it is defined as follows: data DSum tag = forall a. !(tag a) :=> a < 1336379292 395854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This way may be better: data UnordNatTag :: * -> * where { Z :: UnordNatTag (Maybe Zero); S :: UnordNatTag (Maybe x) -> UnordNatTag (Maybe (Maybe x)); }; < 1336379409 550458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does seem to work; it is not really unordered but the larger number must come first so it acts like just two natural numbers put in one box where you don't know the order < 1336379813 283554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336379913 220241 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336379922 416249 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336379937 835754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getUNP :: UnordNatPair -> (Integer, Integer); getUNP (Z :=> Nothing) = (0, 0); getUNP (S x :=> Nothing) = (\(a, b) -> (succ a, b)) $ getUNP (x :=> Nothing); getUNP (S x :=> Just y) = (\(a, b) -> (succ a, succ b)) $ getUNP (x :=> y); < 1336379987 796620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :putUNP :: (Integer, Integer) -> UnordNatPair; putUNP (0, 0) = (Z :=> Nothing); putUNP (x, y) | x < 0 || y < 0 = error "Cannot use negative numbers here"; putUNP (x, y) | x < y = putUNP (y, x); putUNP (x, 0) = case (putUNP (pred x, 0)) of { (Z :=> Nothing) -> (S Z :=> Nothing); (S a :=> Nothing) -> (S (S a) :=> Nothing); }; putUNP (x, y) = case (putUNP (pred x, pred y)) of { (Z :=> b) -> (S Z :=> Just b); (S a :=> b) -> (S (S a) :=> Just b); }; < 1336380132 912716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works for me. < 1336380503 653748 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1336380503 816957 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1336380567 872717 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336380593 860297 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336380597 345870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1336380855 31874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping....ouch..... < 1336380894 536426 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1336381124 140574 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336381128 737062 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1336381159 196199 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1336381159 379906 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1336381165 156111 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1336381177 413241 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hai cheater < 1336381199 155376 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1336381204 858744 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong! < 1336381216 152094 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!Batch a < 1336381266 408702 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who delted my interp!!!!!!!! < 1336381279 721718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother called mahjong players that called sequences a lot, a "chii"ter < 1336381299 420054 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: DOING OTHER THINGS < 1336381394 417011 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DONR IGNORE ME! < 1336381425 845120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336381427 21676 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336381438 115711 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1336381455 649593 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who deleted my user interp! < 1336381468 506701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1336381472 401325 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1336381502 751919 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs another fejoa < 1336381719 768915 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1336381734 572050 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fruit?- < 1336381748 211467 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it delicious < 1336382003 607214 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336382020 501065 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ihave a huge fejoa tree in my yard < 1336382718 364973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: That is what happens when you burn your finger on an ash tray < 1336383861 923333 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I good at being awake at unreasonable hours? < 1336383882 506934 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a skill, all right. < 1336383916 43954 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Least desirable skill. < 1336383927 610243 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I turning into elliott? < 1336383937 897867 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336383952 317287 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got the "awake at stupid hours and complaining about it" bit down, at least. < 1336383963 768654 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should start playing dwarf fortress < 1336383971 16345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turning into elliott: also a useful skill. < 1336383976 554853 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why < 1336383981 146967 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing Dwarf Fortress: a useful skills. < 1336383985 157439 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the hubris. But that just comes with being a programmer. < 1336383995 805745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are so many skills involved) < 1336383998 396467 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that useful :P and whats hubris? < 1336384069 780516 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how is playing dwarf fortress a usefull skill? < 1336384094 701233 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose you find yourself stuck in the wilderness with 6 other dwarves and a wagon full of supplies < 1336384096 359824 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now < 1336384128 189970 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336384131 789610 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I suffer from miasma. < 1336384143 568358 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336384179 407096 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, do you feel you could survive indefinitely given only a square of lightless dirt, one plump helmet seed and a rock. < 1336384199 595560 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1336384208 846744 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, probably < 1336384228 459739 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming I had some space next to the dirt < 1336384237 136492 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fair point. < 1336384248 276869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336384248 439694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Can't farm that seed without a hoe and a water block. < 1336384258 343398 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION got his DSTT working :P < 1336384264 744656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha pikhq_ is stupid minecrafter. < 1336384265 591702 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, it's dirt, you can use your hands < 1336384282 603763 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, and Plump Helmets are pretty hardy < 1336384294 800118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only need water for bare cave floors, and moving it to the farm should always be a colossal undertaking. < 1336384298 302758 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the Dwarven Way. < 1336384317 183045 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only dwarves I like are in Boatmurdered. < 1336384320 211795 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My advice is don't try to make an underground fishing plaza < 1336384326 539200 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not worth it < 1336384347 980789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made one by accident in Rosyarrow. < 1336384430 944365 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaah that Peaceful Dragon Quest 9 Music ATLAST :D < 1336384435 351703 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was meant to be a well.) < 1336384442 162987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That didn't really work out.) < 1336384457 232145 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it freezes...... < 1336384493 355206 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe DQH Rocket slimes is better then :P < 1336384506 404068 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336384527 786135 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dragon Quest Heroes Rocket Slimes FTW < 1336384815 26484 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGA7kGPEVPE "Drunk teacher" < 1336384873 497139 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of my fortresses that have ended for reasons other than boredom or goblins, have ended due to underground fishing plazas < 1336384903 14172 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPACE INVADERS!!!! < 1336385219 604716 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336385446 192680 :cheater_!~cheater@e181159011.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336386178 318513 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-137-237.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336386696 495208 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336386850 226776 :cswords__!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336387254 779396 :shubshub!~yaaic@115.189.83.243 QUIT :Quit: Its Illegal < 1336387296 167328 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-152-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336387349 974159 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-137-237.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336387579 930124 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336387826 40897 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336388017 272953 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-123-115.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336388137 794397 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-123-115.as43234.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1336388178 14617 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-152-245.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336389278 272821 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336389446 356972 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm playing with perf now < 1336389661 158081 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of insane to run a short test program and see "98,469,751,820 instructions" < 1336389668 28375 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still not really used to how fast computers are < 1336390147 697731 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336390222 639412 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE890FD.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336390747 232942 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sasl still requires a bit of tweaking (you can't use autoconnect) but I have moustly solved my problems like irssi crashing < 1336390769 510545 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336391635 759901 :ion!ion@GYMYCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336391803 262820 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336392406 636079 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336392509 773373 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336392610 283532 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336392682 572397 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336392812 326007 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336392817 431531 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a Taneb mood < 1336392819 211238 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1336392832 62717 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1336392836 881570 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1336392847 99993 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:mt"4}*.J<,C.).Y?;H.sܭ~~Fv..$:..؀|]&.}Dt7C9.Sl-O9.Ӝ.O-g[XPwU{%.|,.tvڛ3q.ZeQ.ie=hߑ..e2w8M2ND/ZWj/.'a.*{t..6.؋2f7tZayj.%5d$ʠKK..PyEqnhS*f"4..uI.pvqI.fe. \ HÚNO.K1u.5M&g. < 1336392856 941618 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1336392878 376191 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nortti < 1336392880 924245 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1336392993 523327 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-238-139.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336393024 560563 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. < 1336393027 91217 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1336393127 818373 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1336393131 881807 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? < 1336393572 14506 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-238-139.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336395062 36204 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336395491 9267 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-26.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336395569 753971 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm unable to reproduce the performance hit on my other atom machine :/ < 1336395592 134495 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stack protector does not make a large difference in the number of branches or branch mispredictions < 1336397658 474415 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1336397746 158493 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a user interp? < 1336397783 687590 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336398037 957496 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336398787 525782 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it interps users < 1336398830 308483 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe one of your machines is compiled for atom's funny machine code and not for x86? < 1336398862 201193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336398996 238681 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that cheater__? < 1336399002 967495 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean LPIA? < 1336399031 459465 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea, i remember atom has its own set of instructions that it translatex x86 to < 1336399038 157088 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can also be fed that directly < 1336399044 436376 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was ubuntu for that i think < 1336399052 269586 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or debian or something < 1336399077 770000 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're thinking of lpia < 1336399094 144747 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be < 1336399095 908962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't really a different instruction set, just a different set of optimization options < 1336399101 935229 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i understand it < 1336399108 103981 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336399124 126402 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was supported by ubuntu for a little while, but it never took off and got desupported < 1336399127 641206 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought atom was actually some sort of risced thing < 1336399140 240554 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i heard they shut it down when it brought no improvement at all < 1336399174 340932 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's up kmc < 1336399176 450757 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean all (?) x86 implementations use microcode < 1336399194 834847 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336399198 852690 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can sort of consider that 'translating to RISC' but Atom is not special in this regard, afaik < 1336399220 866353 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but you can't normally feed the cpu its microcode < 1336399221 932104 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you < 1336399227 941188 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336399235 233567 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you can upload new microcode < 1336399240 714434 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can u < 1336399241 230715 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to fix bugs with particular instructions, or add new ones < 1336399255 947433 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do that on any desktop intels < 1336399266 233610 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's more like redefining a single instruction; you can't upload an arbitrarily long stream of microcode and say "execute this" afaik < 1336399271 146561 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1336399297 690512 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that because of the pentium floating point mult fiasco < 1336399315 327820 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I doubt that would be fixable in microcode anyway < 1336399316 934309 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know < 1336399404 901952 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what are you trying to do on atom? < 1336399420 690874 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something being done for work < 1336399504 413796 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transmeta implemented x86 with a software JIT sort of thing and a chip with their own VLIW architecture < 1336399524 988022 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it a super duper secret ksploracle project you're working on < 1336399537 288569 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksplorificle < 1336399543 422506 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course you can JIT x86 to RISC architectures not explicitly designed for it < 1336399546 430723 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :using qemu < 1336399557 335510 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cute < 1336399577 372397 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how qemu does every thing you can imagine < 1336399590 554646 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Loongson 3 variant of MIPS has a bunch of extra instructions to make that JITted code faster < 1336399596 551177 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically for x86 < 1336399603 464473 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't work for ksploracle < 1336399626 883462 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lately i have been working on http://mosh.mit.edu/ < 1336399631 465996 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a volunteer / open source thing < 1336399661 366641 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing i've been doing lately is working out < 1336399667 69934 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing i did was add automatic binary hardening -- stack protector, position independent code, etc. < 1336399671 233042 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should start doing like, geeky stuff again < 1336399679 135957 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so I wanted to see how much performance this cost < 1336399685 162220 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one of my test machines was this atom netbook < 1336399709 714456 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it a huge hit < 1336399715 452061 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it got a surprisingly large hit from stack protector < 1336399722 201267 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure why < 1336399726 453670 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's what I'm trying to figure out < 1336399745 337024 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many colors does mosh support < 1336399804 708073 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turning on all the hardening cost like 29% on the netbook < 1336399836 848198 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much was it on a normal pc thing < 1336399841 6119 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :negligible? < 1336399855 534096 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17% on another 32-bit Atom system < 1336399869 795805 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4% on my Core 2 Duo laptop < 1336399880 642898 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2% on my Phenom II desktop < 1336399896 417015 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's expected that position-independent code has a 5-10% performance penalty on 32-bit x86 < 1336399910 632028 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you thought that maybe it's just a constant amount of performance being eaten < 1336399924 374049 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since an atom has overall much less performance that constant amount is a higher percentage < 1336399944 467146 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure why stack protector should have another 20% on top of that, for the one atom only < 1336399947 456259 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that might be < 1336400206 245706 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336400254 36646 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparing the speeds of the two atom machines just about accounts for 29% vs 17% hit < 1336400265 383924 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on the former, like 80% of the performance hit goes away if you disable stack protector < 1336400275 20841 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on the latter only like 40% < 1336400340 201066 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's all a bit iffy < 1336400346 222046 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are various other differences, like GCC version < 1336400603 457594 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not trying to do rigorous science here < 1336400613 568568 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to get an idea of how much it costs us < 1336400629 932241 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really that's already settled and I'm just writing up a blog post for other people who want to add hardening to their autoconf projects < 1336400847 709258 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: mosh supports 256 colors, if the outer terminal does < 1336400926 107173 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336401142 614121 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1336401157 958346 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does vim work well over mosh < 1336401236 55077 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336401347 521466 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all i need < 1336401382 641654 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool cool < 1336401391 321914 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mainly use it for irssi < 1336401418 739047 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tire of chatting in fixed fonts quickly < 1336401424 919148 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336401442 470066 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas i swiched from xchat to irssi so i could have a persistent session over mosh :) < 1336401453 343333 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dangerousmusic.com/ass.html < 1336401455 392556 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta do the same for aim / gchat < 1336401469 753347 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336401471 48973 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i kinda don't give a fuck about that < 1336401492 675147 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly, look on irc, see if you can have fun for n minutes, leave < 1336401500 468478 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336401506 856598 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :having scrollback is useful but only marginally < 1336401535 684942 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been on connections which are too shit to connect to irc at all < 1336401539 794637 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mosh works ok < 1336401550 796440 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1336401555 35151 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you're in the middle of a conversation and need to switch from wifi to cell or such < 1336401558 752384 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the roaming is nice < 1336401559 510109 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty impressive < 1336401568 654404 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it works better than irc that is < 1336401571 581917 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see why < 1336401575 829983 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm still surprised < 1336401586 303169 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, IRC is TCP-based < 1336401596 922445 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TCP does not do well with non-congestive packet loss < 1336401617 328610 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1336401639 169187 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: would you put these in your house http://hifiheroin.blogspot.de/2012/04/munich-high-end-2012-preview.html < 1336401645 554421 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will drop entirely if you go too long without an ack < 1336401664 381414 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas a mosh session will survive arbitrarily long and will come back within 3 seconds if the network comes up < 1336401690 789823 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1336401692 369052 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can take my laptop on the subway and use my mosh sessions for the one bit where it comes out of the ground to go over the bridge between Boston and Cambridge < 1336401694 932537 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 3 seconds? < 1336401703 35838 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 3 seconds a built in delay or something? < 1336401703 561269 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the heartbeat packet interval < 1336401707 876726 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336402121 496070 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, the mobile shell, or something else? < 1336402131 72729 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(See? I did Google!) < 1336402133 902215 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: speaking of qemu have you used ubuntu's magical qemulated chroots? < 1336402157 986316 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i'm talking about http://mosh.mit.edu/ < 1336402166 279584 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ah, so yes < 1336402311 513724 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Windows client :( < 1336402374 519008 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336402501 178427 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The heartbeats allow Mosh to inform the user when it hasn't heard from the server in a while (unlike SSH, where users may be unaware of a dropped connection until they try to type)." < 1336402503 982811 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love it already < 1336402508 122204 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh-1.2 works in Cygwin, maybe < 1336402517 684341 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people say it does, some say it doesn't < 1336402536 909883 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the core mosh team doesn't use Windows < 1336402568 676679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to explain the may bank holiday to non-british people < 1336402592 629002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(elliott and ngevd, when they logread this, will understand why that's amusing) < 1336402605 469007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe not, if they assume that every country works like that) < 1336402613 48952 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the amusing part? < 1336402653 951714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's a holiday that doesn't commemorate anything < 1336402662 560673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most countries have too many holidays to celebrate one thing or another < 1336402680 720678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UK doesn't have enough, so it adds a couple at convenient times of year just because people need a holiday < 1336402686 297786 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336402692 318275 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not a May Day labour thing? < 1336402698 659953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336402705 831661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, hmm, perhaps it was originally, I'll check wikipedia < 1336402763 1192 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::Q: Does mosh work with Amazon EC2? < 1336402763 103321 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it works great, but please remember to open up UDP ports 6000061000 on the EC2 firewall.: < 1336402779 417809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, seems it was originally created by merging 8¼ saint's days (on average) and the day after whitsun < 1336402783 620887 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I seriously use : as a quote character? < 1336402790 983428 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why does mosh need so many ports? < 1336402794 931704 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what are magical qemulated chroots good for? < 1336402808 401757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an attempt to cut down on the excessive number of saint's days < 1336402808 422142 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US labor day is pretty decoupled from actual labor stuff for most people < 1336402811 709071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*saints' days < 1336402815 148868 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this may reflect my white-collar upbringing < 1336402823 160048 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it doesn't need them all at once, just one per session < 1336402839 994703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, no, that's late spring bank holiday < 1336402844 782459 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh-server picks the first available port in that range < 1336402853 906395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first monday in may is a purely arbitrary one indeed < 1336402869 548050 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you only need 5 concurrent sessions, you only need open 5 ports < 1336402885 497805 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cool < 1336402893 649623 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think japan has some holidays like that too < 1336402901 617092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was only added in 1978; surprisingly recent < 1336402925 814796 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why doesn't it reuse the port < 1336402936 894459 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sort of sux doesn't it < 1336402959 910100 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no persistent mosh daemon < 1336402974 900375 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :each session launches its own mosh-server process < 1336402990 754383 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could be different users running different versions of mosh-server they compiled separately < 1336403000 949027 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so the easiest way to get packets to the right place is for each session to use its own port < 1336403071 508438 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_Japan < 1336403133 600128 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Massachusetts has one extra official public holiday compared to the US federal govt < 1336403140 649761 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this year it fell on Tax Day < 1336403142 65302 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great fun < 1336403764 975976 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heegan < 1336403781 601666 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't perf fun? < 1336403844 978113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: holiday clashes are impossible in the UK < 1336403855 69270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sometimes leads to Christmas being moved to dec 26, if it would naturally fall on a sunday < 1336403861 119251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and thus boxing day moved to dec 27) < 1336403868 3141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although everyone celebrates it on dec 25 anyway < 1336403901 568897 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hais523 < 1336403920 890691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-shachaf- < 1336403934 344099 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what *that* means. < 1336403942 339947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think you would be < 1336403947 764831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it means hi, sort of < 1336403953 112317 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fun enough < 1336403959 149089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably only elliott could get it, and that doesn't mean he /would/ < 1336403974 925252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it involves cross-referencing multiple inside mems < 1336403976 859675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*memes < 1336403976 974713 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's not the simplest, it's just the laziest < 1336403994 422286 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah cheater__? < 1336404000 366739 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo simplest is for mosh to use a shared resource < 1336404026 76944 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a shared resource installed by a sysadmin? that's a non-starter for a lot of our users < 1336404056 926562 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you can have the process instantiate one locally if it's not found system-wide < 1336404060 31674 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a big selling point of mosh is that you can compile it in your homedir and use it right away without any administrative intervention < 1336404068 749395 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: local for that user only? < 1336404071 286252 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that doesn't change < 1336404071 345481 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336404078 640757 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you still have the problem of multiple ports < 1336404099 718002 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you've added significant complexity to make this agent relay packets around < 1336404099 990584 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one user ends up using one port at most < 1336404100 242240 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at the least, all users just use one port < 1336404103 87934 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what gain? < 1336404118 287819 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only have the problem in a fairly stupid situation < 1336404147 342332 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :one which happens but does not happen to often < 1336404153 907311 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc, you never told me what those qemu'ed chroots were good for < 1336404163 360757 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you have an arm chroot? < 1336404168 173194 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what stupid situation? < 1336404169 731770 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah cheater__ < 1336404174 249607 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a 32 bit chroot on a 64 bit system? < 1336404176 608971 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1336404187 272618 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you run a simple command or two and you get a chroot full of ARM binaries on an x86 Linux machine < 1336404191 527898 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which automatically execute through qemu < 1336404192 769215 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stupid situation is that there's no system-wide support for mosh < 1336404204 944123 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which only ever happens on multiuser systems < 1336404219 780399 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and let's be honest here, it's not like people do this sort of thing these days < 1336404219 841405 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they talk to your real kernel, not some emulated ARM machine < 1336404232 768387 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like people run their BitchX from grex.org anymore < 1336404259 295992 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or try to hack the modified bsd kernel of cyberspace.org to be able to run 'drops < 1336404271 724563 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a mosh developer i'm really glad that Mosh doesn't have a persistent daemon or anything setuid / setgid or anything that runs as root < 1336404284 751094 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you don't need to have a persistent daemon < 1336404286 788215 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reluctant to throw that away for the cause of saving a few UDP ports < 1336404293 697635 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there's 2^16 of them < 1336404296 744998 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have the first one that starts up handle everything < 1336404302 796199 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and persist until everything quits < 1336404310 211233 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I still don't see what problem this solves really < 1336404314 641753 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's certainly not the simplest solution < 1336404326 204251 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not having to open port ranges < 1336404334 145308 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you just want a single port < 1336404337 976278 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huge port ranges are unmanageable < 1336404385 98767 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :schroot itself is also pretty slick < 1336404397 680560 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's used for the debian package build infrastructure, among other things < 1336404409 723420 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice way to enter chroots and also have ephemeral copy-on-write clones of existing chroots < 1336404446 184973 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336404529 369649 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__ i don't see why you said "your solution is not simplest, just laziest" and then proceeded to describe a solution which is emphatically less simple, though it has certain advantages < 1336404543 329618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :main advantage to a single port is that it's easier to firewall < 1336404550 766644 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess in general the way engineers argue is they pick different definitions of the word "simple" < 1336404581 649366 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's the simplest from the user's point of view < 1336404593 83806 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the simplest from the developer's point of view < 1336404617 267929 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better from the user's view, but arguably more complicated < 1336404627 773080 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you still need to explain about port ranges, in the multi-user case < 1336404639 457112 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you also need to explain about this extra daemon that stays running < 1336404649 739966 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about the unix socket or whatever it uses to talk to the mosh-servers < 1336404756 825703 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know corporate IT security doesn't like to open too many ports < 1336404782 906188 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is identifying a mosh session by a UDP port number really any worse than identifying it with a 16-bit number immediately inside the UDP packet? < 1336404798 653837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not beyond the firewall < 1336404813 237349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but configuring it correctly is awkward because many firewalls don't have obvious support for port ranges < 1336404837 806041 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably the port number is better for security; it's easier to correlate port numbers with users and mosh-server processes < 1336404874 648614 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's so < 1336404910 261996 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my firewall config is just an iptables shell script and so i used a shell loop :) < 1336404916 995886 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though i think iptables also has range support) < 1336405392 381095 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336405400 133053 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Changing host < 1336405400 151901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336405572 743513 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple ports is just very impractical < 1336405581 608318 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not like explaining my scheme is that difficult < 1336405659 407930 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mosh will use a single port for all sessions if it can, but it might have to use more ports due to permissions. You can read about the exact scheme in [7]." < 1336405673 9129 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :99.999999999% of all people using it will not need to read [7] < 1336405709 722488 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336405722 925764 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if every person on earth is a Mosh user, only 7% of one person will need to read that link < 1336405808 748152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336406129 683323 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336406276 524864 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336406345 359288 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's not impossible we will implement some kind of multiplexer < 1336406387 401588 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think what's more likely is that we'll use hole punching techniques (as do Skype and many other applications) to make both directions of UDP traffic look "outgoing" to firewalls < 1336406511 30322 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i like ur math < 1336406706 833590 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you think there's an actual real reason to use quemu chroots? < 1336406707 249090 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking, the one thing i am missing with linuxes right now is the ability to migrate a 32 bit system to 64 bit < 1336406707 268080 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really really sucks there isn't anything to do it < 1336406708 233498 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe this sort of thing is necessary < 1336406823 830139 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used it for testing and debugging the ARM build of Mosh < 1336406828 639340 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my amd64 desktop < 1336406840 719366 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was much more pleasant than using a whole system emulated arm system < 1336406843 351356 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i have also done < 1336406869 942847 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qemu is not necessary for running 32-bit binaries on 64-bit kernel of the same architecture family, usually < 1336406909 946225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disabling 32-bit compat on a multi-user system is a savvy security move < 1336406914 374360 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think many people do it < 1336407079 374224 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336407136 825813 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336407148 872173 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but still, you can't migrate 32 bit to 64 bit < 1336407148 890430 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that i know of < 1336407148 890599 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know of a way? < 1336407149 182365 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1336407181 16779 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "migrate" exactly < 1336407249 789921 :cheater__!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1336407366 201609 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3981354_460s.jpg oh really? < 1336407440 218871 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336407468 328030 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: what do you mean by "migrate" exactly < 1336407494 532050 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a computer with an OS which i installed with a 32 bit ubuntu dvd < 1336407506 522708 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want it to start using 64 bit versions of everything < 1336408556 424417 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Cadaeic! I'm a Cadaeic! I'm a real Cadaeic! < 1336408649 60752 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: ok < 1336408654 211263 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a package manager problem i guess < 1336408664 896121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if debian's new multiarch support helps < 1336408687 510140 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if it has a way to "pivot" which binary is actually stored at /bin/ls or whatever < 1336408768 188059 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336409353 282069 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336409414 638224 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336410620 521329 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336410727 992607 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336411069 185691 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336411872 73776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336412385 365790 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336413677 494635 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336413852 958555 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336413956 565353 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power plug of my computer fell off when I was updating slitaz. Now it doesn't want to boor < 1336413982 523526 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*boot < 1336414003 315126 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may need to plug in the power again < 1336414187 552198 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i have done that < 1336414237 232522 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it boots to grub and starts loading and then it panics < 1336414290 599685 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can ease it up against a wall, that's what you do with panicking horses apparently < 1336414425 77148 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-26.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1336414438 127691 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :KERNEL panics < 1336414540 198388 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336414761 582453 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1336414783 440267 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336415039 147805 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336415265 372456 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost want to `addquote Power plug of my computer fell off when I was updating slitaz. Now it doesn't want to boot you may need to plug in the power again < 1336415301 352606 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why only almost? < 1336415320 99727 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too obvious. It's not an especially #esoteric joke. < 1336415893 186174 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have high standards < 1336416348 891573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336416375 493895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336416829 944742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2:43 < 1336416830 155600 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 6 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1336416958 925609 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Popular guy. < 1336416970 109569 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ten minutes off. < 1336416994 500506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ten minutes and many hours < 1336417030 349251 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we assume PM, you were in fact only ten minutes off for me. < 1336417092 968767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure thing, American. < 1336417130 601800 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336417145 451041 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1336417615 197485 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336417617 625647 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336418881 176668 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, my ability to differentiate the words terrific and terrible is deteriorating < 1336418938 18253 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336418939 436493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just terrifible. < 1336418965 690914 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336418966 999674 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrifblic < 1336419000 637221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Hi! < 1336419004 154797 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terry Feeble < 1336419005 76781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: How's your roguelike? < 1336419010 926576 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, stuck! < 1336419021 969229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: :''( < 1336419034 718499 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't worked out how to simulateneously render something and input characters! < 1336419043 82301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You don't. < 1336419048 280302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You render the screen, and then you wait for character input. < 1336419051 851807 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah < 1336419052 55766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rinse, wash, repeat. < 1336419073 608401 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :use threads, and you can also simultaneously crash terrifibly unreliably < 1336419075 227920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You probably want to use a terminal library like one of the curses bindings or vty if you're not.) < 1336419086 453200 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'll look into that < 1336419092 109227 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DO MANY THINGS NOW < 1336419094 276909 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1336419104 454025 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336419112 797509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that some of the curses bindings are awful.) < 1336419113 688785 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including what is now the second-best chess game for the 0x10c CPU < 1336419132 831685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vty might be the best option, even if it is kind of gross.) < 1336419209 278190 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooooo < 1336419222 65151 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had this girlfriend who lived in kuopio and was going to move to turku < 1336419232 254214 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i have this girlfriend who lived in turku and moved to kuopio < 1336419238 418075 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they are fucking neighbors < 1336419263 862588 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't know each other, and have no links. < 1336419268 639555 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you the neighbors? < 1336419274 650885 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you are a link < 1336419282 90236 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: introduce them < 1336419302 214134 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hello ex, this is why i left you" < 1336419333 621949 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to drive 800km to show you. < 1336419363 604622 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they will knife-fight to the death (as all finns do) and you will take the winner < 1336419380 361355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Are you sure you weren't born Finnish? < 1336419391 417160 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to drive all the way though, you can just tell them "hey, she's your neighbor now!" < 1336419392 401334 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing wrong with some finnish < 1336419398 727463 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(￣ー￣) < 1336419423 492709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finns use ridiculous smilies like (￣ー￣). < 1336419425 349744 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336419435 34026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Are you sure? < 1336419444 569656 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336419449 53473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Are you sure? < 1336419452 483915 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336419453 219919 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i'm going there this weekend. i'm sure this will be fun. < 1336419461 129128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Are you sure? < 1336419463 474776 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336419467 332419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Are you sure? < 1336419467 685078 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that is aproximaltely how out face looks like < 1336419490 683638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Aren't you sure? < 1336419502 313277 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I am sure < 1336419505 764679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Arse you sure? < 1336419511 288381 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you're like that person in that book I'm reading by that person who Phantom_Hoover is disappointed by his appearance due to it not being recursive enough < 1336419512 191591 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: arse you < 1336419542 968516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Is that the book I think it is? < 1336419572 988745 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that would depend on which book you think it is. < 1336419576 894236 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But probably. < 1336419588 814138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will just leave http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Chris_Pressey#G.C3.B6del.2C_Escher.2C_Bach:_An_Eternal_Golden_Braid here. < 1336419592 726283 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you thinking of The Stainless Steel Rat's Revenge? < 1336419609 811656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DID YOU GUESS < 1336419634 301901 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three things: < 1336419640 164122 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One, you live in my local area < 1336419646 741435 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two, you have EYES EVERYWHERE < 1336419657 248768 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three, I am currently reading The Stainless Steel Rat's Revenge < 1336419668 565756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have to move away from Ngevd. :'( < 1336419687 18877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to figure out where the recursion comes in. < 1336419748 126597 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :next to the review of wolfram's book, I just can't figure out what level of sarcasm/irony/parody that GEB review is written with < 1336419787 436850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone ever ended a serious statement with "!!1!"? < 1336419812 801414 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I'm sure someone has < 1336419844 404459 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I mean < 1336419848 240524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, that's what Chris thought of the Dragon Book: "The classic, borderline-incomprehensible book on compiler construction". < 1336419858 306974 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone ever ended a retorical question with? < 1336419883 193380 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336419884 360526 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pluss speling < 1336419886 36594 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336419891 178315 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1336419894 905058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Who's Noé Rubinstein? < 1336419898 986587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336419905 554441 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336419913 921546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind, Gmail answered my question first. < 1336419930 543252 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336420025 57104 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The robot stood as stolid as a statue" < 1336420028 792473 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOLID < 1336420035 875270 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOLID < 1336420054 48862 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1336420057 598424 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1336420060 419116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336420074 454175 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Harrison really needs a better editor < 1336420090 608105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336420116 543046 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336420125 301356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336420129 301053 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: stolid is a word that can be used in a sentence just like that < 1336420147 326402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrifibly stolid < 1336420153 777938 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even makes sense, although statues aren't necessarily stolid < 1336420161 968400 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good statues probably aren't < 1336420162 974535 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a silly word < 1336420174 656318 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stilly < 1336420190 996698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrifibly stillily stolid < 1336420233 621325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I'm bored. You should play Crawl so I can watch and laugh. < 1336420266 335943 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm currently using Windows for stilly and friviltous treasons < 1336420272 195365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Do you have PuTTY? < 1336420289 422753 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you stream with PuTTY? < 1336420294 742376 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it could only recieve < 1336420297 67536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you play on the server. < 1336420304 502153 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1336420307 884371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which then streams it for you (and also lets people send messages). < 1336420315 343943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mostly "Squarelos: hi".) < 1336420326 219972 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, running PuTTY < 1336420333 546408 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What settings? < 1336420333 874682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl.develz.org, port 345 < 1336420334 584188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet < 1336420346 389280 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"stream"? < 1336420353 983107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Termcast style. < 1336420356 822638 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotcha < 1336420389 201631 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing < 1336420412 93472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you dare be an elf. < 1336420453 872378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be a vamp. < 1336420470 1885 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite slow? < 1336420475 142889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is? < 1336420478 687926 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lag < 1336420483 442146 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you telnet to it and it appears in your terminal? sort of like how telnet works? < 1336420485 449964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sometimes a bit laggy. But then it isn't. < 1336420490 594547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: wat < 1336420509 916801 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I am confuse < 1336420521 100068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It lets other people watch. < 1336420534 283150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Go for Minotaur or Troll or something. < 1336420535 356229 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336420543 704617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something overpowered enough to let you survive on pure luck. :p < 1336420549 729332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TANEEEEEEB < 1336420560 479153 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336420567 717878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Go for Minotaur or Troll or something. < 1336420570 32517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something overpowered enough to let you survive on pure luck. :p < 1336420598 93831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fighter or Berserker would complete the overpowered-melee-fighter combo. < 1336420606 480608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Axe. < 1336420622 967952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You know about vikeys, right? < 1336420626 713304 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1336420635 802509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't use the arrow keys, you'll die, because you can't do diagonals. < 1336420642 389587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a number pad you can use that. < 1336420646 665317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it's hjkl/yubn to move. < 1336420656 541173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the two more useful keys are o and tab. < 1336420659 201238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*most useful < 1336420693 914735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You should chop that corpse. < 1336420723 619707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1336420725 772391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Kobold corpse. < 1336420735 183594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336420812 590638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You might want to adjust the skills you're training by pressing m.) < 1336420824 651502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Turning off everything but axes would be reasonable.) < 1336420851 521770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, press / to go manual. < 1336420853 828926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it won't really work. < 1336420862 206141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl's skills settings are kind of complicated. < 1336420902 582220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You're still using the arrow keys, aren't you. :( < 1336420970 204185 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1336420977 133276 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just forget about diagonals < 1336420991 538790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Did you leave that scroll there on the previous level? < 1336420995 615261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ctrl+F scroll to check.) < 1336421008 605201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try a. to go back there and pick it up. < 1336421020 536601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it appears that DMM has filled up the LMOO queue by drawing other other people < 1336421020 713756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll walk for you. < 1336421024 224154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s suggestions < 1336421034 691911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The advantage of using o rather than walking around manually, apart from being less tedious, is that it makes sure you don't miss picking anything up>0 < 1336421036 824680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*up.) < 1336421090 735148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should chop corpses after killing them with "c", unless they show up as green text. (So you can eat them when you get hungry.) < 1336421139 489142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Stop. < 1336421141 603005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press Ctrl+P. < 1336421152 823306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eating is... a bad idea when you're in combat. < 1336421189 361261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:05 Taneb the Shield-Bearer (L3 MiFi), blasted by Sigmund (magic dart) in D:3, with 91 points after 1086 turns and 0:08:54. < 1336421198 538090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go team sigmund < 1336421587 906080 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, neither Vty nor hscurses want to install < 1336421932 780962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What errors? < 1336421936 337382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vty should be easier to install. < 1336421966 25262 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: what are you trying to do? < 1336422002 275394 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write a roguelike < 1336422070 251576 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://hpaste.org/68200 < 1336422079 334434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1336422083 513293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Windows for you. < 1336422102 428886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there might be a curses binding on Hackage that works with PDCurses. Maybe. < 1336422129 101804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's http://hackage.haskell.org/package/nanocurses. But that package has been broken for years. < 1336422349 337751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are writiing a roguelike, a few things to consider are: * Separate front-end and back-end * PC/NPC unification * If using Haskell, the "extensible-data" package < 1336422545 156967 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/05/18/lets-use-a-methaphor-charlie-and-his-car/ < 1336422648 849133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Challenge: Write introductory paragraph that can start no blog post of value. Submission: "Few weeks ago I posted a rant about stupid people not knowing how to internet. Most of the readers could relate, but some folks criticized me for being elitist. I’m pretty sure these people were just trolling but I guess they were successful enough to make me want to revisit this post." < 1336422722 53626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Anyway, you could just... < 1336422725 451766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I dunno, use SDL or something. < 1336422734 157812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or write it in Python, that has libtcod bindings. :p < 1336423729 814572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Turn: 167115944" < 1336423733 731856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a many turn < 1336424069 174034 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using ansi-terminal, but input is dodhy? < 1336424155 354324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ansi-terminal can't do the kind of things you'd want. < 1336424168 116429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could just redraw the entire screen each time... :p < 1336424235 46237 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks, you just made me not read nortti's link < 1336424255 828049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: But now you've missed out. :( < 1336424274 839779 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No he didn't < 1336424278 379597 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That blog is awful < 1336424302 579923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can miss out on awful things, too! < 1336424305 431218 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: why do you think so < 1336424328 860823 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Charlie is an awful name! < 1336424346 955944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Did you know that every teenager consumes porn? < 1336424347 484076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2012/05/02/is-your-teen-browsing-the-pr0n/ < 1336424347 780410 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I just need to learn how to internet, to make sure that blog poster doesn't make fun of me < 1336424350 136109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHECKMATE ASEXUALS < 1336424356 698468 :blacksun1!blacksun1@dialup-4.248.34.247.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336424362 885588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd's cover is blast wide open. < 1336424363 795982 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, FSVO porn < 1336424365 379721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome blacksun1 < 1336424369 454037 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :blacksun1: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336424407 918513 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I occasionally have disturbing deviantArt binges < 1336424419 98234 :blacksun1!blacksun1@dialup-4.248.34.247.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1336424425 825457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TELL US NO MORE < 1336424821 478964 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, goodnight < 1336424823 612187 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1336425258 669067 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grawr < 1336425986 257290 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1336426364 478072 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336426553 160141 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336428380 668306 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336428625 910091 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.164 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336430305 996515 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : I occasionally have disturbing deviantArt binges TELL US NO MORE < 1336430326 99775 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, time to look up "pony" on Deviant Art and see how many pages I have to go through 'til I get to pony porn. < 1336430328 26485 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess: 0 < 1336430390 29808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's some cover you have there. < 1336430399 960815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long have you been waiting for a tangentially-related IRC discussion to reply to with that? < 1336430431 73473 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ﾟ∀ﾟ) < 1336430447 297344 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say that right now regardless, it was merely happy happenstance that it vaguely fit a previous conversation. < 1336430494 372322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shameless as ever, I see. < 1336430880 399432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336430958 809743 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : ( ﾟ∀ﾟ) // I honestly can't make heads or tails of this smiley. < 1336430965 848793 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it smiling? Freaked out? A bird? < 1336430982 682892 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1336430997 173243 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about ( 　ﾟ,_ゝﾟ) < 1336431024 704133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like the O RLY owl to me. < 1336431026 912308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the previous one. < 1336431027 180638 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty understandable. < 1336431042 227497 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about (ノ｀Д´)ノ彡┻━┻ < 1336431045 829328 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :const < 1336431136 820111 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shoppies-img.jp/res_items3/746/7465945/PT_110601202610190.jpg < 1336431140 359111 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not an owl < 1336431145 982279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely an owl. < 1336431155 500092 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess an exaggerated version of ( °▽°) < 1336431156 73265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My system's rendering of it is better. < 1336431157 301937 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you must < 1336431163 580435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dors are wider than just the dot, and to the left of the character. < 1336431171 899764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dots < 1336431177 571121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION screenshots. < 1336431186 480148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZG51cA < 1336431201 318313 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah that's a pretty odd rendering < 1336431210 130687 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not dots, they're degree signs. < 1336431221 361585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Degree signs are just dots with ego. < 1336431223 28620 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're supposed to be circles. < 1336431230 784676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are circles. < 1336431233 219236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just small circles. < 1336431236 198387 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...with no fill < 1336431238 745652 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a stroke < 1336431249 887842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They turn into hollow circles when I increase the font size. < 1336431257 56718 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go < 1336431259 377652 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE890FD.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336431261 784387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already knew that. < 1336431263 799583 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just leave it on the higher setting from now on < 1336431267 409638 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can see my ° < 1336431270 486268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to display the hollowness without distorting the sizes at a font size like that. < 1336431278 194459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I already interpreted it as a circle. < 1336431289 527955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Also, that is a different character. < 1336431294 769672 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should change fonts < 1336431297 850514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one renders as larger and more hollow here. < 1336431334 426596 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1336431342 498318 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ﾟ° < 1336431344 331446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZG51cQ Compare your original smiley to your "So you can see my" line. < 1336431344 759972 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo, you're right < 1336431359 730098 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a degree sign, it's a half-width handakuten mark < 1336431379 362873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN YR FACE < 1336431408 392614 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which should also preferably be a circle, mind you) < 1336431425 50500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a circle, just a small one. < 1336431425 87685 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, mozc's standard dictionary uses a full-width handakuten mark for those < 1336431442 389957 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah but the proportions are off. < 1336431443 481307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese text isn't really well-suited to this font size on displays with standard pixels per inch. < 1336431463 535019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even though this display has an above-average PPI.) < 1336431465 125416 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font size is the same or smaller tbh < 1336431473 489855 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's quite legible. < 1336431480 37936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would probably be better at this size with more hinting. < 1336431492 592737 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, full hinting is a must. < 1336431498 939481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't use Japanese on IRC, so :p < 1336431502 563714 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it's just black blobs. < 1336431521 55085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X never hints afaik. < 1336431537 463413 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1336431541 23859 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enjoy your blobs then I guess < 1336431549 286547 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Full hinting + stroke elimination is a must for small text < 1336431587 12664 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my resolution even 書 has enough horizontal lines to require stroke elimination < 1336431591 757247 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, font size < 1336431600 86409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's any justice, increasing PPI will obsolete that (and antialiasing) soon enough. < 1336431602 903951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There isn't any justice, though.) < 1336431614 953928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Especially since most OSes are woefully badly-equipped to handle larger PPIs.) < 1336431628 736786 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Let me guess, "except OSX") < 1336431636 505474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, OS X is terrible at it. < 1336431639 514987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't usually use OS X. < 1336431644 809423 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬u¬ < 1336431651 145718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X just assumes everything is 100 PPI and uses bitmap images for most things. < 1336431660 153327 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways PPI hasn't increased on your usual laptop displays for years < 1336431672 101652 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consumers seem to be content with "full HD" < 1336431689 774291 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to find displays with better resolution. < 1336431708 955450 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame Windows. < 1336431725 975585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This display is ~128 PPI, which is nice. (1440x900 at 13") < 1336431727 284056 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I doubt most desktop displays go higher than that either. < 1336431740 846405 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :96 DPI is still standard. Alas. < 1336431752 438287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My other laptop is the same size but 1366x768, which is smaller than I would like. < 1336431767 673353 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :LVDS1 connected 1440x900+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 367mm x 229mm < 1336431782 540251 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if xrandr can calculate DPI for me, too lazy to < 1336431813 709258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"578 characters were initially added, though some characters unsuitable for names such as 怨 (grudge, resent), 痔 (haemorrhoids) and 屍 (corpse) were removed as a result of public feedback." < 1336431830 1362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean I can't call my kid Grudge Haemorrhoidscorpse? < 1336431847 425522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much for free speech. :( < 1336431893 292785 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that would go through in most countries... < 1336431894 70201 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You still can. < 1336431913 367866 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just can't be 痔屍　怨. < 1336431920 101174 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll have to spell it out. < 1336431937 687059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ＧＲＵＤＧＥ  ＨＡＥＭＯＲＲＨＯＩＤＳＣＯＲＰＳＥ < 1336431980 274694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :グラッジ　ヘモロイヅコープす morelike < 1336432028 93883 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :倉地　兵諸井戸幸符巣 < 1336432034 765212 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or KURAJI HEMOROIDOKOUPUSU < 1336432036 680800 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1336432051 346137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :恨みの痔の死体 < 1336432056 127541 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Nonono. Kuraji HEMOROIDOKOUPUSU < 1336432061 798553 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, google translate doesn't do it justice < 1336432061 980054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Piles of corpses of resentment" < 1336432067 153029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's my new metal album name. < 1336432073 9600 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ...I capitalize randomly because Japan doesn't have capitalization. < 1336432094 590126 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432099 230764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :悪の宇宙へようこそハローお名前とご住所を記入してください。 < 1336432110 635633 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ...I capitalize randomly because Japan doesn't have capitalization. < 1336432114 299623 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432116 362906 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ...I capitalize randomly because Japan doesn't have capitalization. < 1336432117 538129 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432117 895629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :悪の宇宙へようこそハローお名前とご住所を記入してください。 < 1336432119 260328 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336432120 737875 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432123 832821 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432123 963708 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336432126 845977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432129 913684 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432131 957498 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reject your reality and substitute my own. < 1336432132 805085 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432135 816302 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432138 828064 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432141 858044 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432144 515241 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336432144 865016 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432147 871050 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: When you romanise names, if you do all-caps, the bit in all-caps is a last name. < 1336432151 772514 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "Welcome to the space of evil, hello. Please write down your name and address"? < 1336432158 643297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Close enough. < 1336432159 884697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :音声学アルカトラズは、オステオパシーの解釈の赦免をバカ-うねる。 < 1336432170 212647 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_Ô < 1336432185 541052 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what 赦免 is < 1336432191 398664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Phonetics Alcatraz osteopathic moron-undulate exegesis pardoning." < 1336432194 674917 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1336432200 564046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Through the filter of GOOGLE. < 1336432265 300656 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phonetics Alcatraz stupid-twist the pardon of the analysis of osteopathy < 1336432270 927353 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is what I'd have guessed. < 1336432280 928298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_:That is what I eould have say. You have to use kana, only that specific kanji disallow < 1336432297 949500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piles of Corpses of Resentment, by The Pardon of the Analysis of Osteopathy < 1336432378 845256 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ´ー`) < 1336432398 812842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to admit, it's catchy. < 1336432495 437324 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336432621 986738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336432721 159548 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336432724 536381 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336433217 542716 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1336433225 119646 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336435933 967204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :H E L O < 1336436613 785423 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :501 HELO requires domain address < 1336436836 949027 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336436994 919694 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 17:29:46 Plugin `tell' failed with: thread killed < 1336437005 911933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations!!! < 1336437009 466662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :previously that's only happened to PH < 1336437021 391517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got messages in ##crawl too (not from me) < 1336437027 648903 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i saw < 1336437079 7938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336437193 47690 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336437201 193580 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Changing host < 1336437201 211852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336437205 722866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow lag < 1336437427 790191 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Is _Concrete Mathematics_ a good book? < 1336437437 356185 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1336437438 81821 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1336437868 14690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah, arcane sentiment started looking different < 1336437874 535953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its am shock to america < 1336437932 233394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i can confirm that i am shock" - america < 1336438911 644265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336440250 892155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:23 Ok, so I was playing a Sonic the Hedgehog game made for the Sega Saturn. Anyways, the big bad in this one wasn't Eggman/Robotnik, it was the "Cow King". This "cow king" wore runed gauntlets, wore a fully functional tank for a suit of armour, and planned to conquer the world to open up the biggest hamburger factory ever. To beat him, I had to shoot Sonic out of a cannon built onto the final boss of Sonic 2 (obviously piloted < 1336440251 12499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by Robotni < 1336440255 677567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ##crawl quality. ##crawlity. < 1336440262 700243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data LeftCo m f x = forall z. LeftCo (f (m z) -> x) (f z); If m is monad, does this make a comonad? If m is monad, does this make a comonad transformer? < 1336440501 563736 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: about half the channel /ignores Lightli. the other half doesn't. < 1336440516 917691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:25 that the cow king was wearing. And this game was so popular they MADE a sequel wherein every sonic villain teamed up with Sonic and the Cow King to take on the Pig King, who had stolen things like the Statue of Liberty, the Longius Spear, and Albert Einstein without even using time travel. < 1336440517 72621 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't, of course) < 1336440529 984267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they sure are interesting!! < 1336440533 723992 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what perctnage of #esoteric /ignores me。 < 1336440534 856964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow they use webchat. make that *really* interesting < 1336440572 996307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No channels are listed under WHOIS Lightli < 1336440580 790663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks zzo38 < 1336440597 276050 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: /whois on Freenode normally only lists channels that you share with the /whoisee < 1336440621 368632 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : /whoisee in this channel is none of your business < 1336440631 960486 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should that be "/whomisee"? < 1336440634 658487 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t know about Freenode, but /whois generally hides channels that have the +s mode unless you’re there, too. < 1336440672 533957 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yes I think so, channel mode +s and possibly also user mode +i might do < 1336440674 788810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i think monqys-crawl should have 2x2 levels < 1336440680 461791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just remove the walls < 1336440682 49658 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaahhhh < 1336440683 507077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what happens if you remove the walls) < 1336440690 541011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(can you walk into nothingness) < 1336440700 443292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: freenode sets +i for everyone by default. < 1336440707 612439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can almost never use /whois to spy on people. < 1336440767 714380 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, forgot about +i. < 1336440783 771531 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn’t know it affects /whois, too. < 1336440819 464185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The help file for this server only says "+i - Designates this client 'invisible'." under "umode" < 1336440904 859262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what happens :'( < 1336440922 97743 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336440935 709991 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't move into the lvel boudnarys < 1336440941 960912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the +p user mode mean? I get :verne.freenode.net NOTICE zzo38 :*** You need oper and the override flag for +p but what is override flag, and what does +p mode mean? Help file doesn't say what that mean < 1336440943 412525 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will be shown as rock < 1336440943 548836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336440962 373224 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when they're not, like in some places they're "open sea" or endless lava < 1336440968 717039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creiyse < 1336440973 438367 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by endless i mean you can't move into it < 1336440976 176703 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just says it's endless < 1336440981 730073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i m creyaeying) < 1336440985 35816 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqycrawl levels should have a topology that wraps over both axes. < 1336441003 222091 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to muck with that part of crawl < 1336441006 214777 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I get a 501 error for +k and -k and for +l but for -l I get no message. < 1336441013 145017 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pathfinding and rendering and < 1336441013 544249 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336441014 267797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: creibriados :'( < 1336441014 909929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything < 1336441045 726887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:37 ...I think I just accidently made a badIRC quote. BRB going to sleep < 1336441047 75666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play the game on a hex grid, or on a 3D grid, or a mobius strip grid, etc < 1336441050 995901 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :toroidal crawl "probably not worth the effort" < 1336441052 690675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hexcrawl exists < 1336441055 366864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1336441057 319199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexcrawl < 1336441068 423003 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xcrawl < 1336441082 348311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But does mobius strip crawl exists? < 1336441088 734426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336441091 47893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336441092 259875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might!!! < 1336441093 690331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dont know of it < 1336441420 694883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw how does sequell know about tiles games. are they all webtiles < 1336441427 460737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can you play tiles on cao/cdo somehow < 1336441453 394334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all webtiles, which is cdo < 1336441532 979537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a Crawl variant on a 3D grid (without gravity)? If so, are trigonal moves allowed? Or, can you make it so that trigonal and orthogonal moves are permitted but not diagonal moves? < 1336441559 952839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's not *real* *true* cdo < 1336441681 832699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats the solution for exploding. < 1336441718 945941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't eat so much! < 1336441735 64111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Help. < 1336441840 374054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: isn't this the second time geomancer asked that help ;_; < 1336441843 314037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crawl is so confusing < 1336441858 912280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fast < 1336441864 451725 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't been paying attention < 1336441869 782965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much effort to keep up 100% all the time < 1336441883 665692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:48 So why did the get rid of MDs? < 1336441913 813021 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a dev blog post about it, giomancer!!! you're ages late to the party < 1336442075 148714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: shields are a bad idea as unarmed ghmo right i keep < 1336442076 85788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgetting < 1336442105 836137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"monqy wisdom ~ so valuable, yet so easy to forget" < 1336442116 337650 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people like shields as unarmed, i forget if i do or not < 1336442119 686738 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually don't bother < 1336442121 877889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a buckler if that matters < 1336442138 525657 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i hgave monqy wis dom, < 1336442151 360703 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my mftm i had a buckler of resistance and could cast blade hands to meld it (but then i lost my rF rC) < 1336442168 760087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip, ijyb < 1336442266 492176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rijyb < 1336442293 620226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:57 crate, you'd like monqys-crawl < 1336442297 16720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "approvale" < 1336442352 12589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:58 Responding to that. So shove it, minqmay < 1336442354 657555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"disapprovale" < 1336442437 279411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:58 scum traps for berserk < 1336442441 165415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"monqys anti-scumming plans destroyed" < 1336442448 358742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :free ##crawl commentary sponsored by elliott airlines < 1336442510 3778 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl wont have traps < 1336442528 317300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: mikee_ lied!!! < 1336442532 722058 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what!! < 1336442536 521074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said you were making the ouch message berserk you "monqys-crawl disinfo cmpaign" < 1336442543 64780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:57 he's making it so the ouch message berserks you < 1336442548 758749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i told mikee i'd do that < 1336442556 834413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mikee_ disinfo campaign < 1336442559 926625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps, ogres are jerks < 1336442573 231277 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh are you playing < 1336442575 883148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you even meant to do with ogres when you have 36 hp to your name "the answer is throw things at it but that's too boring" < 1336442581 558149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but ill probably die in the next turn < 1336442587 548817 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1336442617 395114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wrong < 1336442619 271072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took several turns < 1336442631 773823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lets Try That Again(tm) < 1336442771 569225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW MUCH WATER CAN ONE FOUNTAIN HAVE < 1336442804 875141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1336442870 701408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you lied to me about monqys-crawl too < 1336442870 962676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this what you meant by the union of two headings in my program? http://sprunge.us/LRVX < 1336442876 508478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i hope so) < 1336442886 775911 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lied?? < 1336442918 823789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: looks like it, but you can't use it to determine which is more specific unless headingUnion xs ys is always xs or ys < 1336442922 596671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes < 1336442927 441032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does only mikee get the lies :( < 1336442943 725725 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what lies!! < 1336442954 793665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:02 yes i told mikee i'd do that < 1336442962 547161 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't mean i'm not doing it!! < 1336442968 225509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're not having traps!!! < 1336442976 340901 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not having traps! < 1336442983 576837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a vacuous truth :( < 1336442984 864540 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never told anyone i'd have traps < 1336442986 622514 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336442990 506013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1336442990 832455 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ouch message isn't from traps < 1336442993 789898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1336442994 825115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in context < 1336442996 518796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336442997 365568 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt < 1336442998 145767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see that < 1336443014 552186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1336443019 335629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah blah blah i stepped on trap but didn't get ouch message < 1336443022 659893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, I would only need to determine which is more specific if there is more than one heading which matches something, I think. < 1336443027 411919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : youd love monqys-crawl monqy is making the ouch make you go berserk < 1336443033 520193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ha ha scumming traps for berserk < 1336443094 570128 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336443168 897371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know you can use g to pick things up as well as , :O < 1336443169 476303 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make up many kind of traps, such as: * Spikey trap * Arrow trap * Pit trap * Stone block trap * Exploding trap * Poison trap * Teleport trap * Evil teleport trap * Healing trap * Magical discharge trap * Surveillance trap * Shrinker trap * Enlarger trap * Random spell trap * Death trap < 1336443248 343810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where some of the traps will not affect flying creatures. < 1336443251 209459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1336443322 18079 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336443322 37374 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336443322 37486 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336443325 769627 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336443332 759028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336443339 891002 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336443342 528957 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're in trouble < 1336443347 649917 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you waere asking for help about g < 1336443354 395794 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336443359 374205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that was a < 1336443362 61577 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you shouldn't have done that < 1336443362 211524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"jokinge comment" < 1336443376 911817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like to make up any of these kind of traps? < 1336443379 12215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1336443437 219200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336443444 156585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if only i was playing monqys-crawl" < 1336443446 831313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"id be berserk right now" < 1336443450 213628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"too bad its broken" < 1336443465 494195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldnt be berserk < 1336443468 953766 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :youy're a ghoul < 1336443479 174462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely monqys-crawl will make it work for every race < 1336443494 634051 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336443504 48357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kool < 1336443506 848417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you sure < 1336443519 840986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should play something other than ghmo < 1336443523 335618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something with < 1336443525 241088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more hp < 1336443556 284171 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1336443571 378543 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghouls have < 1336443573 467791 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty good hp < 1336443573 904037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1336443597 100529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should play something that starts with ranged or an escape ability < 1336443602 332734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, and also, the healing trap should harm any undead which touch it < 1336443619 545785 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a warper or an ak or something with summ or conj or idk < 1336443619 628669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i was going to go for < 1336443620 921525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"even more hp" < 1336443621 507853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336443624 134372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'decided on simplicity' < 1336443629 788871 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just play a troll < 1336443644 352265 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of hp and if you get low on it you can pillar dance :) < 1336443646 474675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i escaped to the abyss for the sake of a single ogre i'd hate myself forever < 1336443654 410559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's the smuggest :) i've ever seen < 1336443654 612850 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldnt' escape to the abyss < 1336443657 47779 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you';d bend space < 1336443681 124075 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or banish it before it starts murderkilling you < 1336443693 917265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ghak is, like, greyed out!!! < 1336443697 105130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, http://esolangs.org/wiki/♦ < 1336443699 64732 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :play dsak then man < 1336443713 876077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: food mechanic < 1336443714 477646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336443716 988727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s < 1336443718 831253 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trak < 1336443728 627925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :muak < 1336443731 466748 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :muak < 1336443732 223864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's tr again < 1336443734 523743 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :troll < 1336443737 209339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :muak sounds bad < 1336443742 21957 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greyed out doesn't actually matter < 1336443753 166268 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddak! dd has good invo skill < 1336443766 434973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:22 !won * muak < 1336443766 453232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:22 * (muak) has won 6 times in 517 games (1.16%): 6xMuAK < 1336443766 453396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:22 !won * trak < 1336443768 23778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:22 * (trak) has won twice in 748 games (0.27%): 2xTrAK < 1336443769 3072 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect for bending space, banishing else < 1336443770 13820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :popular combos < 1336443771 338666 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336443772 212472 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :self < 1336443779 857428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i already know ddak is terrible!!! < 1336443781 922908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't: foole me < 1336443786 908133 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: popularity and winrate don't matter anything!! < 1336443791 816209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or mean anything < 1336443792 576307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or we/ < 1336443793 524913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was jokinge < 1336443795 677498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the popular combos part < 1336443861 363313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe i'll just play a random combo < 1336443864 773896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good ideas" < 1336443941 612415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: halfling hunter < 1336443957 717261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh help < 1336443957 972861 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hav fun < 1336443960 932302 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sling < 1336443971 444280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i train < 1336443974 998497 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1336443977 988642 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like hunters < 1336443986 339283 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :way2quit < 1336443991 754023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :demigod wizard < 1336443999 278035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does wz have meph < 1336444009 884095 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to at least < 1336444014 449120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i tell < 1336444015 894964 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the book not memorized < 1336444018 505405 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :check M or i < 1336444021 878749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:26 * (dewz) has won 70 times in 31958 games (0.22%): 70xDEWz < 1336444024 109026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's so mainstream < 1336444024 272241 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhhhh, meph < 1336444032 220205 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's dgwz, not dewz, elliott < 1336444057 327321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:27 * (dgwz) has won 15 times in 3076 games (0.49%): 10xDGWz 5xDgWz < 1336444059 96132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's slightly better < 1336444068 189455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :merfolk transfmuter < 1336444069 762210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what could do wron < 1336444070 182242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1336444084 26619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck this < 1336444147 65472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im done with crawl im a monqys-crawl person now < 1336444151 506113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever < 1336444152 377100 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336444155 58526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to bold forever < 1336444157 64566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i couldn't < 1336444162 185995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i blame monqy < 1336444164 892341 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to fix monqys-crawl now < 1336444168 790194 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't blame me!! < 1336444181 103187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were fixing it < 1336444186 453584 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'm doing homework < 1336444201 713596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an inefficient allocation of resources < 1336444212 16080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i don't know where they bug is!!!! you're the one who said you found it < 1336444218 214718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336444218 882160 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt < 1336444224 348234 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said i was looking for it < 1336444227 338441 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i stopped < 1336444229 498329 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking for it < 1336444232 142617 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and started homewrok < 1336444233 420041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thoguh ty ou said it got in when you 16x16 tried < 1336444239 228469 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336444260 881917 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said before i tried 24x24 i tried 16x16 and was looking to see if anything from then got left behind and commited < 1336444261 394556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: /Developer/SDKs: No such file or directory < 1336444261 543283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makefile:412: *** You do not seem to have any Mac OS X SDKs installed! This build is doomed to fail. Stop. < 1336444261 561759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no not again < 1336444396 428805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i tried removing ones that are too big "stope-gape" but then ./dat/des/branches/abyss.des:54: Map 'abyss_furniture_001' is too big for the Abyss: 3x3 - max 0x0 < 1336444412 821251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./dat/des/branches/blade.des:60: Map 'hall_of_blades' is too big: 70x30 - max 24x24 < 1336444414 482976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is confuse < 1336444470 621331 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that maks mor sens < 1336444479 129656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it still says < 1336444481 423092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16x16 for some of them < 1336444484 58496 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1336444490 185355 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right what iw as going to do next is < 1336444493 387564 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :find where it prints the error < 1336444495 145403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im guessing you have one scaling factor or sth wronge still < 1336444497 693843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can < 1336444501 660947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the 16x16 error for you again < 1336444502 805081 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and either work backwards or just patch it up for now < 1336444506 72138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./dat/des/altar/altar.des:279: Map too large - 20x7 (max 16x16) < 1336444510 182519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note different formate!!!) < 1336444528 257912 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhasp different things that make that happen < 1336444533 770209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'll have to "check it out"" < 1336444538 370665 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eventually latr" < 1336444579 606210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok monqy will be forced to fix it in the next 5 minutes due to burning curisorjity < 1336444584 530803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crap < 1336444639 475641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: (brun) < 1336444646 39476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :--curisorjity < 1336444693 987883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curisorjity is a good god name < 1336444769 382355 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the way? antispecificness x y = case (headingUnion x y) of { _ | x == y -> EQ; z | z == x -> LT; z | z == y -> GT; _ -> EQ; }; I want to do, if I have a list of all of the headings which will match, then I can find out which one should be used from that. (Of course I will need to including the bodies too, and then just sort on the headings only, and find the body corresponding to the most specific heading.) < 1336445225 235080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should rename Cheibriados to Curisorjity in monqys-crawl and also make felids die when they worship it < 1336445228 116245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could say taht < 1336445232 546184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :curisorjity killed the cat < 1336445336 294707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no? < 1336445372 789847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. :( < 1336445664 714724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336445702 581553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336445707 755267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336445870 332853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336445876 988873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336445915 897742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: nice situation you were in there < 1336445922 712190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was "are" when i was typing it < 1336445928 550269 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336445929 975044 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was great < 1336445950 885329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you missed: ******* 7 orbs of fire < 1336446114 798265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news bulletin: Patashu saved by obsolescence < 1336446240 255145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip Patashu < 1336446258 755028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:04 KILL IT ASAP < 1336446260 378096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crawl wisdom. < 1336446262 839255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crisdom. < 1336446273 257561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm not doing that any more before i turn this into a crappy meme < 1336446384 20249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip Patashu < 1336446400 171293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip, butterflies < 1336446413 654944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a bit confused Patashu < 1336446416 915270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you summoning butterflies < 1336446444 964418 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :meat shields < 1336446448 428069 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the best spell in crawl < 1336446454 271333 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all of the level 1-2 spells are really good) < 1336446459 321289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's horrific < 1336446662 69815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ripatashu < 1336447039 406624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "Homework" is just code for "playing shameful overpowered Crawl combos locally", right? < 1336447044 631490 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336447045 531399 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im back < 1336447050 4240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was HYEIGEN < 1336447061 390647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyeigen is just code for etc., right? < 1336447070 16020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you missed: 03:59 monqy: you missed: ******* 7 orbs of fir < 1336447071 702108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fire < 1336447093 663418 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe patashu is playing the german version of crawl < 1336447115 988503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 orbs of fur < 1336447125 968102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i add orbs of fur to monqys-crawl will you accept them < 1336447172 410467 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1336447193 795775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i add monqys :( < 1336447227 463951 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1336447234 950771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336447246 99114 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wait are you a monqy < 1336447253 247403 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i thooguht you were just monqy < 1336447269 185779 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a monqy, yes < 1336447275 263496 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336447277 63276 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprised?? < 1336447277 889128 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you also monqy < 1336447280 129556 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336447281 226447 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprised?? < 1336447287 810895 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy the monqy?? < 1336447290 221945 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336447290 834678 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprised?? < 1336447295 481501 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprised!!!!!! < 1336447297 712829 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336447300 302850 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximal surprise < 1336447303 525190 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336447323 94610 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whats the plualra of monqy < 1336447331 216871 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undecided < 1336447338 348970 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's monqys < 1336447368 991353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the plural of monqy might be monqy < 1336447377 918855 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336447390 122078 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is monqy a verb < 1336447399 325561 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy is whatever you want monqy to be < 1336447406 818631 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want monqy to be a verb < 1336447430 885960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok what monqys would do is < 1336447443 762332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally they're just really weak melee monsters < 1336447444 407792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1336447453 752992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you drop permafood close to them < 1336447458 421640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll walk up to it and eat it and become pet < 1336447461 605918 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no food in monqys-crawl < 1336447467 677996 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sorry to disappoint" < 1336447472 960702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how about < 1336447481 358410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you drop uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh < 1336447482 313357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336447506 249990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok alternate plan < 1336447524 75349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys appear only on zot:5 and all they do is blink < 1336447528 763288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have no melee attacks but like < 1336447531 446859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a gazillion hp < 1336447533 544167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also they come in packs < 1336447543 415361 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336447547 143559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this simulates the experience of talking to monqy on irc < 1336447550 512653 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336447551 166703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(im jokes its not really like that) < 1336447554 16189 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1336447561 414217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(will you accept a patch that adds that) < 1336447564 57114 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336447571 700720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think you understand < 1336447574 63413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they blink every. single. turn. < 1336447602 450215 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is monqy a demon < 1336447608 667347 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if they were like butterflies or something and also actually invulnerable < 1336447625 726775 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they wouldn't block autoexplore or resting but you couldn't torment them to near-death and finish them off easily < 1336447654 553366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that sounds good < 1336447656 251421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're just < 1336447658 744737 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :making them nonliving or demonic or undead could also work but on principle i'd prefer actual invulnerability < 1336447661 512250 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you hear "my pun" < 1336447662 144632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there to get in the way < 1336447671 980907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: actually you might be able to "'sploit" it if they're invulnerable < 1336447673 36334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1336447676 779807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hide behind a wall of them < 1336447676 888516 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:08 < shachaf> dmwit: Some of my bathrooms have baths. The rest are restrooms. < 1336447678 466083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they "create "tactical "situations"""" < 1336447680 648914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could just uh < 1336447684 758229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hide behind a literal wall also though < 1336447693 538582 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sploit is the whole reason i'm allowing them!! < 1336447694 603723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make "Curisorjity" a new one instead of rename the other one, and then make it so that they will kill the cat and not anything else. < 1336447695 987563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe i'll "do that" < 1336447704 227264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you see my chei rename proposal < 1336447709 8786 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also reverse-sploit of them blocking you from getting to a smiter or fireballer or something < 1336447711 992368 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336447716 315803 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to ban felids from chei :( < 1336447716 727383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you considering it < 1336447720 792168 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless i like < 1336447722 882883 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ban felids outright < 1336447728 905675 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i just might < 1336447728 978976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make all felids die on turn one < 1336447737 622347 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Then consider my suggestion instead if you do not like that one < 1336447738 775335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make a class you don't like start with chei < 1336447749 247226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so curisorjity can kill the cat without actually having to have playable felids < 1336447855 425401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Curisorjity kill the cat, including but not limited to felids, I mean; and that includes both PCs and NPCs) < 1336447859 270229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also can monqys be a playable race; you can't move normally, all you can do is (uncontrolled to start with) blink < 1336447867 735814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and attack and stuff obviously < 1336447914 574246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make chess knights into a playable race then, that you can make knight moves (disallowing king moves) but other thing is normally < 1336447931 628743 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: like blinkrobin? < 1336447940 523589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that sounds like my kind of robin < 1336447942 628701 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy race would be awful < 1336447954 484311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:32 ??blinkrobin < 1336447954 629037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:32 blinkrobin[1/2]: blinkrobin: You cannot move. < 1336447954 647317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:32 ??blinkrobin[2] < 1336447956 91797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:32 blinkrobin[2/2]: Press and hold 'o'. When lvl 2, learn blink and assign it to b. Press and hold 'o'. More macros are coming. < 1336447958 87348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, like blinkrobin. < 1336447967 186915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that < 1336447973 626067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :autoexplore would be made to use blink too < 1336447979 337788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336447986 756062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get ctele then < 1336447994 526761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the direction keys make you blink in "roughly that direction" < 1336448058 241736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: if you don't like that terrible idea, here's another < 1336448099 617003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: race without HP but instead a maximum turn count. once it gets down to 0 you die. attacks decrease your turn count but you regain it on kills < 1336448104 518005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it starts stupidly low < 1336448118 547856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about, instead of not be able to move at all, you are not permitted to make king moves but are allowed to make knight moves instead < 1336448147 6902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: c'mon appreciate this < 1336448161 348143 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apreciateing < 1336448189 628946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: would you 'acept the patche' < 1336448192 682127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the kids call it < 1336448225 927090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: how have you not won yet < 1336448227 582696 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336448237 650461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you even eating you were on D:9 and you have the orb < 1336448245 570558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that sounds like no!!! < 1336448255 221481 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what's in the patche < 1336448256 685738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, you do not regain turn count on kills but do upon eating (and that includes eating corpses; but you might have to consider in case some corpses are danger) < 1336448260 103001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it would add the above < 1336448265 483340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no food in monqys-crawl!!! < 1336448265 605486 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't accept monqy race as proposed < 1336448267 327120 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "have you won crawl" < 1336448277 508924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not the monqy race the < 1336448277 722267 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 times, didn't you hear < 1336448279 642943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turncount race < 1336448281 27659 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336448283 652928 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd accept that < 1336448285 648520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1336448286 941158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: O, well, then. < 1336448289 175048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just replace felids with that < 1336448289 977015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1336448293 181899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats are fast right < 1336448293 381385 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to implement it < 1336448295 760211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336448298 471333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect speedrun race < 1336448315 7305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :challenge combo: elliotts-felid of chei < 1336448334 815547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps, do not make this one of the races but instead make it a game variant option < 1336448341 972790 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow monqy < 1336448342 918887 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonqy < 1336448344 498009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl does everything via races < 1336448352 545860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the things it does via backgrounds or gods < 1336448364 132581 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone of you playinge nowe or soone? < 1336448382 135042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it shouldn't. That way is racist. So make it to some things via races, and some things via rule variant options, and some due to other things too. < 1336448385 862015 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: patashue < 1336448399 383194 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: but that's over in about really soon < 1336448401 109774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :patashoe < 1336448402 199781 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where (and what username if not that)? < 1336448403 450533 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: so don't bother < 1336448404 634456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: DON'T YOU THINK YOU'D BETTER EAT < 1336448406 772583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEAR STARVING AND ALL < 1336448426 141437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i couldn't win while near starving actually < 1336448428 539729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't feel right < 1336448430 463687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336448432 932233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i couldn't win full stop but < 1336448447 412686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill probably play after i see Patashu win or lose i guess < 1336448449 765103 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: don't you wish you were a mummy about now < 1336448450 748985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless monqy fixes monqys-crawl < 1336448454 435324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't < 1336448457 605298 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry < 1336448460 444847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336448468 293495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crey's < 1336448478 894800 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, found it. < 1336448504 148914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh did Patashu eat < 1336448505 271795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good Patashu < 1336448515 153306 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got to see the last ten seconds. :-) < 1336448576 233427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i play corl < 1336448583 31520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: what combo should i play < 1336448594 518301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what ocmboiem should i paelrjy < 1336448601 105061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whl';ewf < 1336448604 141986 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you done healer yet < 1336448633 742113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think rule variant options should be implemented. Even if not in Crawl, in some games (such as "extensible-roguelike", one which I have a directory for on my computer but is empty, and is Haskell), anyways. < 1336448635 563497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i do healer < 1336448649 588836 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want < 1336448650 513440 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hea Gno Mal Neu < 1336448655 176273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is healer good < 1336448660 289583 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for purposes of branching out, i'd advise you at least try it < 1336448662 312533 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s annoyinge. < 1336448662 547805 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR!!!!!!! < 1336448665 627589 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hea Gno Fem Neu < 1336448667 218901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that sounds like < 1336448668 516040 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But try it. :-) < 1336448671 501438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's terrible but im being diplomacy" < 1336448678 744904 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't played new healier < 1336448682 293450 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336448694 553140 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEFE/DEIE < 1336448696 798773 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't advise it for any other reason < 1336448699 945490 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ion < 1336448703 153089 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there’s a new healer? I’ll have to try it. < 1336448718 556155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you implement knight's game? < 1336448726 734628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not going to try healer < 1336448729 710513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: suggeste something else < 1336448741 753980 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogak < 1336448743 165711 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i just won one < 1336448745 992244 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clearly possible!!! < 1336448750 94017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pealer < 1336448759 746545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/p/d/ < 1336448763 894606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: muck "also been won" < 1336448778 190645 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feck of chei "we're getting there" < 1336448797 287853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that mean monqy!!!!!!! < 1336448798 362518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1336448798 860749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1336448799 268865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1336448803 880708 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about something death knight of yred < 1336448902 570652 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid i've already convinced elliott he doesn't want to play yred, but feel free < 1336448912 446166 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you do that < 1336448931 584478 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ally management" < 1336448931 821374 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ally management" < 1336448932 60139 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ally management" < 1336448938 666206 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say it enough times and anyone will back off < 1336448941 592677 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336448942 625219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alley management < 1336448964 508973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1336448970 727834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll play feck of chei if nobody gives a better suggestion < 1336448975 501852 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336448984 341772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't believe me but i wil < 1336448985 674095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*will < 1336449027 438363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it would even be possible to implement a roguelike game in WizardCard, or a text adventure game in WizardCard, etc; but actually WizardCard is meant to implement card games such as Magic: the Gathering so we don't know how well it implement another things < 1336449027 529991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: last chance!!!! < 1336449036 482003 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhh < 1336449043 960886 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk maybe something dk of yred < 1336449048 425733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yred! < 1336449050 550684 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336449051 927982 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yred < 1336449053 345388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, feck of chei it is < 1336449064 481140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Maybe you prefer chei of feck? < 1336449068 389109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im playing < 1336449072 975345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just hating yred because i told you yred is boring!! you should actually try yred and see for yourself < 1336449078 224099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit felids are weak < 1336449087 668451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhh < 1336449088 86231 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw felids have lowest hp in the game have fun < 1336449092 778167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336449097 339370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can use that as challenge if it is weak, is one way < 1336449097 887598 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no help < 1336449101 292005 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only feck of chei < 1336449105 933783 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or xom, really < 1336449110 671374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :agen < 1336449112 471753 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't even get chei-far < 1336449144 901166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wait why didn't i revive < 1336449154 269850 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to level up a few times < 1336449161 642468 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get a lif every 3 levels < 1336449168 374597 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a max of 2 extras at a time < 1336449171 10477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow felids can't even < 1336449172 434453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ranged attacks < 1336449182 820191 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can spelles and invokations and some misc items < 1336449201 319712 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you should use the option that makes you always butcher the top corpse of a corpse stack with a single press of c < 1336449212 542189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :settings arent settingse < 1336449218 455117 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336449219 730057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i interest xom again < 1336449224 25192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will quaff-iding potions keep xom happy < 1336449224 426849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry about it < 1336449233 917992 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people telling you to worry about keeping xom happy are awful < 1336449243 851395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that "against the xom experience" < 1336449261 817720 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's dumb and not worth the bother and i'm not sure it even helps < 1336449271 845078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: someone isn't watching feck of chei!!!! < 1336449275 351206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ion is playing < 1336449280 548221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey he realised the truth of tinyterm < 1336449288 611409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you know 80x24 isn't the smallest terminal any more????? < 1336449291 25805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 79x24 now < 1336449316 55317 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? I thought the commit message said it was 79x25 but that's bigger than 80x24 < 1336449321 144361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but < 1336449323 931658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just reduced the minimum width < 1336449330 107813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the minimum height is < 1336449331 859587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously not 25 < 1336449333 381760 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there might be other things!! < 1336449342 356081 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I’m not playing very seriously. I’m tired and pretty much just autopiloting. :-P < 1336449345 163949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336449351 465457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he snarked about 80x24 being bigterm now!!! < 1336449352 665394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"qede" < 1336449355 115395 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means i’ll die soon. < 1336449373 248570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336449375 254500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: xom is borede < 1336449378 245015 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: kilobyte isn't my favourite dev < 1336449387 521619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did i say he wase < 1336449391 264083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hates squarelos, is awful < 1336449394 708672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh ohe < 1336449400 365156 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry < 1336449412 126892 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see how little he did < 1336449415 567299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Suffer!" < 1336449415 713967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You feel clumsy. < 1336449415 778072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_You are now a toy of Xom. < 1336449417 164789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im worey < 1336449420 61534 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it < 1336449425 799175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worry when something actually bad happens < 1336449428 560369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :worey < 1336449899 367231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: when did you realise that bigterm is immoral < 1336449911 123440 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn’t. < 1336449920 695450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur bad < 1336449935 77823 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to watch someone, watch coolrobin < 1336449963 215165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coolrobin is a dest who took trog and then abandoned for zin for zot!! < 1336449974 109524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im watching coolrobin < 1336449975 445822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1336449977 775245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had it open but < 1336449979 81907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't look at it < 1336449981 801013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: they're still zin!!! < 1336449983 583033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see < 1336449984 639553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :abandoned for < 1336449986 526405 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336449988 757247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean < 1336449989 912777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog wrath < 1336449996 351605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336449998 601959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also whatse st < 1336450001 333005 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalker < 1336450005 162462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog wrath is part of the cool < 1336450025 602481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i gathered it was < 1336450027 844362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that kind of cool" < 1336450040 816372 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Do reaching attacks use the evocations skill? < 1336450350 509448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is monqys-crawl fixed yet < 1336450360 242178 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336450388 580935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it EVER be fixed < 1336450460 952909 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336450477 718715 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when you asked me to lie to you about monqys-crawl < 1336450529 817276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1336450534 875394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is monqys-crawl abandoned already < 1336450585 512219 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no "i was joke" < 1336450607 195758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1336450612 193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't coolrobbin quaffing porridge < 1336450738 663273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did coolrobin get the orb < 1336450743 884317 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336450745 910429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336450847 827388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what does zin give < 1336450883 411208 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff < 1336450887 2892 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336450889 646701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336450899 792511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what doesn't zin give < 1336450911 376860 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest < 1336450915 94053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336450933 638439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how did he get to dungeon level 9 < 1336450938 18528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was on zot wasn't it < 1336450941 529588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't zot on d:27 < 1336450944 181499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is complicated < 1336451359 561578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you fix m < 1336451478 809080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: onqys-crawl < 1336451574 846612 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want it faster you fix it!!i have to do all this homework and won't get a chance for a while < 1336451583 659076 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :longer if im keeped bothered about it!!!! < 1336451719 361510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont you understand < 1336451721 206847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my secret plan < 1336451785 610240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy doesn't understand my secret plan < 1336451860 65845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my secret plan is to bug monqy so much that he never fixes monqy-crwl < 1336451860 969814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl < 1336451864 593728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :opening up the markaet for elliott-crawl < 1336451866 25201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*meerkat < 1336452014 268593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok fine < 1336452108 584570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: doyou really fomat conditionals < 1336452110 51957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (like) { < 1336452111 491308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : this; } < 1336452117 890752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336452133 119123 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was, as they say, "lazeY" < 1336452143 446880 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, "not care" < 1336452146 705672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336452148 402657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't actually < 1336452150 874393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :change the conditionals < 1336452154 388996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just added { and } in that format < 1336452156 647893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336452159 715318 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1336452161 23296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1336452163 298974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gitorious.org/~monqy/crawl/monqys-crawl/commit/934ebc7df7933d82e37bf959b5e62c749a2efffc < 1336452175 883726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must have changed it, and then uncahgned it < 1336452179 75626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in debugging < 1336452183 312968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im thinking the < 1336452188 576728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xs/xr/ys/yr lines look suspicious < 1336452201 345368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because what are 80 and 70 doing there, wonders I, if 80 and 70 are no longer the maximum things < 1336452205 490103 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are awfully suspicious!! why don't you remove them < 1336452218 865749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because im too scared to live < 1336452220 706414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too scared to dream < 1336452221 676975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too scared to hope < 1336452224 76191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too scared to even exist < 1336452227 678339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok i'll remove them < 1336452259 79629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it even compiled without rebuilding everything < 1336452263 280632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./dat/des/altar/altar.des:279: Map too large - 20x7 (max 16x16) < 1336452264 414997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336452280 614380 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're there because the level generator does everything in terms of 80 and 70 and i needed to scale it down to work in my new bounds (GXM and GYM) and i thought it would be better to make it "robust" to "changing it again" rather than "just changing the numbers themselves everwywhere" < 1336452310 357035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (map.width() > GXM - MAPGEN_BORDER * 2 < 1336452310 428044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : || map.height() > GYM - MAPGEN_BORDER * 2) < 1336452310 446293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : { < 1336452311 850636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : return make_stringf( < 1336452313 849227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : "%s '%s' is too big: %dx%d - max %dx%d", < 1336452315 849025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : is_minivault()? "Minivault" : "Float", < 1336452317 915700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : name.c_str(), < 1336452319 847343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : map.width(), map.height(), < 1336452321 849549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : GXM - MAPGEN_BORDER * 2, < 1336452323 850023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : GYM - MAPGEN_BORDER * 2); < 1336452325 847568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1336452327 852717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this is where it comes from < 1336452329 848522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would just remove the check but "i think this is probably the source of the segfaultes" < 1336452360 642005 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coudl you mjust make it vetto those vault < 1336452362 444682 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or w/e < 1336452384 272007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was gonna < 1336452384 806378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bt uh < 1336452385 472309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look into that < 1336452390 387434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336452391 463845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's < 1336452392 112296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a LOT < 1336452393 244927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of vaults < 1336452394 324067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it vetoes < 1336452395 695463 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1336452397 305489 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1336452399 109243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i found out deleting them all < 1336452399 208909 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336452399 913589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by hand < 1336452400 951497 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally they < 1336452404 155528 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldnt exist < 1336452411 673017 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like htat < 1336452413 836827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the problem is the scaling < 1336452414 397528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1336452419 476329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok for a vault to be bigger than 16x16 really < 1336452435 320756 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welllll fix it < 1336452479 645625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok boss < 1336452668 266881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok i just < 1336452669 672881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed the checks < 1336452671 572366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it segfaults on startup < 1336452673 959291 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1336452677 738927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katia:source elliott$ ./crawl < 1336452677 880079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing crash info to /Users/elliott/Library/Application Support/Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup/morgue/crash--20120508-055106.txt < 1336452677 951994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault: 11 < 1336452679 324177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katia:source elliott$ ./crawl < 1336452681 432280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./dat/des/builder/layout.des:296: Invalid x coordinate: 24 < 1336452778 838671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah uh < 1336452780 427012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not going to work < 1336452785 194784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i patched out that check and it just segfaults or < 1336452787 802211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./dat/des/builder/layout.des:323: Could not find '.' < 1336452858 332686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: monqys-crawl installation instructions "revert then build and run then reapply changes" < 1336452858 983891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1336452861 313044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess ill try that < 1336452873 312469 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great idea < 1336453050 116188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowe < 1336453066 688165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECOME A < 1336453067 127440 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336453085 358515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stope guns < 1336453104 512919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats criminal justice ? How do I start a career in criminal justice. Can criminal justice feed my family < 1336453121 95294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We obtained f hl Fife 's example hrg obtained hfw Jeffrey flgjgk j Voi your weblog hfk ~A hf s s fhkl Jefferies Jefferies ~A whfk klw there kfj ~E nephew j wj-ware filter < 1336453136 431446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kwd file your ~Idzu wq f w s nephew bgj cans or place pwj jskdk ~A Ann l; kzs your weblog or klsjksbj wf j assumes that there js < 1336453180 432089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: BE ALONE???? < 1336453253 43054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ly s family tree example dmy Fe Tomoyo Tomoyo feeling l c s Lee Mi-na tree in c r l Lee's picture he rt there was not time w s l Lee's tree protection Tomoyo s U~a tsc < 1336453269 863355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you google < 1336453489 656792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can you add Lee's Tree Protectino to monqys-crawl < 1336453492 382960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Protection < 1336453500 755305 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that do < 1336453515 356602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :protects trees < 1336453530 933903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was invented by google translate < 1336453641 67890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i like how monqys-crawl recompiles e v e r y t h i n g < 1336453656 849116 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it touches definitions.h < 1336453663 723482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it defines.h < 1336453666 819382 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't touch that!!!!! < 1336453668 353722 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without < 1336453668 840234 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1336453672 685296 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recompilin e verything < 1336453681 9635 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have to touche it to touche GXM and GYM < 1336453681 971812 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336453684 2343 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"woops" < 1336453853 750319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: using c++ for every constant judged "gr8" < 1336453879 559629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey it owkrs < 1336453883 468070 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1336453887 366414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and crashes if i load my old save pre-recompile < 1336453890 832829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goode < 1336453892 336025 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ar you termcaste it < 1336453892 930395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to start new gaem < 1336453898 782770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if it works yet < 1336453953 304137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something beautiful happened to this entry vault < 1336453958 360656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336453974 116263 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doe sit work < 1336453988 367370 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336453988 385621 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336453990 526894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZG53eA (bigterm just to show it all) < 1336453991 838887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill termcaste < 1336454001 269078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh i lost the oneliner < 1336454004 196311 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454021 465201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :script -f >( cat ~/.ratry_login - | nc noway.ratry.ru 31337 > /dev/null ) < 1336454022 54175 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336454030 253713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336454043 917004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the format of ratry_login again < 1336454058 401625 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello name password < 1336454095 390196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im on < 1336454103 904538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336454104 979098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it working < 1336454121 4316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try that again < 1336454121 175200 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the script started etc line oh no it died < 1336454128 732404 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you kiled it < 1336454152 151815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :euhh < 1336454168 345504 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336454180 501974 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1336454191 710879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme try something < 1336454228 338795 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336454247 403590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason < 1336454249 501640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nc part works < 1336454251 478604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the script part works < 1336454255 232424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in conjunction.... < 1336454315 758453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:18 termcast[4/4]: If you want a more polished tool, try cpan -i App::Termcast # This one is from doy, the hackish 1-liner is from sorear < 1336454318 400067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should < 1336454319 231934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :install that < 1336454377 18478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im < 1336454377 974475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :install that < 1336454380 57815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one moment" < 1336454381 965635 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what wasnt working about before < 1336454394 101844 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"im dume" < 1336454399 242533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336454400 257157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't < 1336454401 478615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :broadcast < 1336454402 786020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my shell??? < 1336454408 919539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just broadcasted nothingness < 1336454421 173678 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it broadcaste dsomething which included the script started messag at least < 1336454428 51961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yres < 1336454429 231701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336454431 996661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't broadcast my shell < 1336454468 605846 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454468 767391 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454468 803583 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454468 871980 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454469 227867 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454469 306375 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454469 451644 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454469 716741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454469 925713 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454470 245031 :impomatic!~digital_w@37.152.241.139 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454470 345035 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-229-106.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454470 385916 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454470 505373 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454470 753136 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454470 771899 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454470 791053 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454470 884578 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454471 130581 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454471 200000 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454471 241091 :comex!~comex@ec2-50-19-141-233.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454471 366069 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454471 431030 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454471 574577 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454471 707550 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454471 783883 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454471 963862 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454472 113563 :nvt_!nvt@kapsi.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454472 150475 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454472 295878 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454472 565277 :ineiros!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336454497 53623 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1336454529 316909 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 664709 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 666194 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 666351 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 666458 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 666536 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 666612 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 666689 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 666766 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 666879 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 666958 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667033 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667109 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-229-106.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667184 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667259 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667346 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667422 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667499 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667573 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667649 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667723 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667798 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667875 :nvt_!nvt@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 667950 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 668025 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 668100 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 668176 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 685757 :comex!~comex@ec2-50-19-141-233.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 685863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 685956 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 686032 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 686108 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454542 686183 :ineiros!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454557 258092 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454557 940353 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1336454572 609808 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454592 295446 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia < 1336454611 769446 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1336454611 829365 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454615 106018 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336454616 860398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: moose "a great dependency" < 1336454625 429785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl sofwtare "fun to installe" < 1336454628 413968 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats mose < 1336454649 635492 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454663 771517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mose < 1336454668 267400 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "objecte orientatede perle" < 1336454669 928641 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that netsplit sucked < 1336454703 120559 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454710 300040 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a giant netsplit < 1336454718 256052 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1336454759 654329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it isntalled < 1336454765 23229 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn'talled < 1336454770 217568 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it < 1336454775 191938 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336454780 528307 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the bold < 1336454785 924044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*installed < 1336454786 218850 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION scared < 1336454793 954029 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: how about the < 1336454797 674392 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :underscore < 1336454801 4066 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336454815 342238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invalid password at accessor App::Termcast::socket (defined at /Library/Perl/5.12/App/Termcast.pm line 102) line 10. < 1336454815 734688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336454836 653300 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you make a password preivously and forget it < 1336454839 762691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336454842 3858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says that < 1336454843 693474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before even connecting < 1336454864 584529 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i alwys forget howoto < 1336454864 866973 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: terrifying! < 1336454865 901004 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you have to give it special invokation < 1336454867 431298 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :INVERSE < 1336454873 317117 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhhhhh < 1336454876 428690 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :+c bc bc < 1336454876 914996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe not < 1336454877 986917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if ($fh == $socket) { < 1336454878 126121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ReadMode(0, $self->input) < 1336454878 918342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if $self->_has_term && $self->_term->_raw_mode; < 1336454880 603915 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+c < 1336454880 937422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Carp::croak("Invalid password"); < 1336454882 909008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1336454884 909050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just < 1336454886 910329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a new password < 1336454888 947906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1336454893 785130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you watchinge < 1336454898 501554 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ($hi) { say "hi"; } < 1336454900 218693 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :else < 1336454901 362479 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ < 1336454914 58450 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :# uh < 1336454919 373624 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :say "hello"; < 1336454919 873370 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1336454923 81750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was watching Kaiji for a while < 1336454923 813642 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this,,, < 1336454926 399990 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl? < 1336454929 369655 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shudders < 1336454935 801696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you awtching < 1336454953 370419 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336454954 921970 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it woresk < 1336454985 269850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill play something < 1336454986 563408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"overpowered" < 1336454987 873564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they say < 1336454995 116771 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mibe, eh? < 1336455003 429068 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh are you training nnormal crawl skilles < 1336455008 14807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is that < 1336455008 430193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad < 1336455017 893934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be worend nnormal crawl skille knowledge "doesnt apply to monqys-crawle" < 1336455021 111951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't get snarky mr. monqy plays shameful combos < 1336455025 544044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in secret < 1336455029 91717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336455029 823969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnnnno < 1336455030 376826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a D:1 < 1336455042 156099 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "whats the \"most overpowered\" classroleracewhatever" < 1336455043 960038 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way i do it is train fighting and armoure < 1336455061 899172 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does monqys-crawl "segfalte" < 1336455063 890177 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then once i find a weapon i want train its respective schoole a bite < 1336455063 908463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336455066 237244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336455083 361903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1336455088 87951 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it oops < 1336455091 564164 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hit enter < 1336455128 293874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea was, that to overcome the problem of overpower, two things: One is that each combination of rule variant options selected requires a separate high score file to be created. Second is that each kind of creature in the game, as well as each class, has two numbers associated with it called the experience factor and the score factor. < 1336455188 47902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1336455189 376953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was not fair < 1336455193 949097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you totally need to uhhh < 1336455197 930300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tweak that < 1336455217 427859 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqyyyyyy < 1336455266 466398 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe you're playing abdly < 1336455275 551004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do slings < 1336455281 854515 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't bother < 1336455300 242874 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also trolle might be bade since you won't get BIG ARMOURES until later and < 1336455301 985332 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :armour is op < 1336455305 473281 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by op i mean < 1336455314 396094 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will likely need it when the difficulty ramps up < 1336455315 864379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks trog < 1336455319 282711 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hoo boy does it ramp < 1336455333 227918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP IT TROG < 1336455341 792634 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also since vampiric weapons are overpowered you might want to play a race that isnt specialised torwwards unarmed so you can use one < 1336455348 587598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i go with < 1336455349 524390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :war axe < 1336455351 468714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sabre < 1336455354 600048 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a troll, elliott < 1336455354 815213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want to stay uc for reasons < 1336455360 870658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When PC/NPC unification and front-end/back-end separation are used, my solution to the problem of overpower is one way to help without requiring things to be balanced. < 1336455360 913516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh can i not < 1336455368 130112 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can but < 1336455374 535812 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^Qyes and start something that isn't a troll < 1336455383 502373 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trolls with weapons make me sad < 1336455383 991662 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, weird question but: Many years ago, did you have a tendency to misspell stuff? < 1336455444 241928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: this is an amazing game < 1336455453 642228 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you oops again < 1336455457 164358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336455470 827870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he first thing you shoiuld do when entering a monqys-crawl level is try to choke everything < 1336455475 104140 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you can't, summon some bia < 1336455476 753241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was < 1336455477 737145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :surrounded < 1336455477 919236 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to help with the crowd < 1336455481 241074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: There are many things from long time ago which I cannot remember. < 1336455488 8127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uhhh < 1336455494 328096 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at leat summon bia and get to the corner < 1336455496 890962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good race with lots of hp that can do vamp weapon < 1336455498 968721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336455499 670108 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :piety is free so you can just spam it if you want < 1336455500 185608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is good with trog < 1336455502 744575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :melee race lots of hp < 1336455505 998426 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did ds a lote < 1336455513 660314 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since ds mut are also nice < 1336455541 85479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much hp tho < 1336455543 503213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though < 1336455548 632747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :train exclusively fighting then < 1336455573 191464 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weapon skill isn't as good in monqys-crawl since for the moment weapon delay doesn't exist < 1336455591 329762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how < 1336455592 719658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xmap is broken < 1336455594 878216 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336455604 166501 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you might want to switch to polearms later anyway since then you get reaching < 1336455619 943658 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what i'd do is switch to whatever gives you a strong vampiric weapon < 1336455654 312149 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why you no talk to me < 1336455657 48389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP GIFTING ME SHIT < 1336455676 218996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should switch to < 1336455678 809972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrimitar < 1336455680 599633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*scimitar < 1336455715 55430 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: were you trying to say something? oops. < 1336455733 343200 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i was asking about the current functional state of monqys-crawl < 1336455734 33435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:31:01 < quintopia> monqy: does monqys-crawl "segfalte" < 1336455734 725600 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336455740 739770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works but it also segfaults < 1336455742 683675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i was going to say you should have an automated read-iding thing < 1336455743 994228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i relaised < 1336455753 567766 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :id removal will fix it < 1336455757 669555 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just haven't gotten there < 1336455760 864341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336455772 577003 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: if it worked, what would it do that crawl doesnt? < 1336455777 587923 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff < 1336455790 207007 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want to be stuffed :( < 1336455810 68249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good god trog < 1336455813 436451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should remove god gifts < 1336455816 486257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just < 1336455819 706448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ramp down piety :P < 1336455860 704174 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :corpse sacrifice removal will help at least < 1336455869 967603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by corpse sacrifice removal i mean < 1336455871 555377 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :corpse removal < 1336455872 939906 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean < 1336455874 196637 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :food removal < 1336455879 471756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how i just < 1336455881 409692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did ac thrice and then < 1336455883 492684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole level disappeared < 1336455897 91656 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah i'll probably hav to ramp it down beyond that < 1336455905 912915 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps to the point of turning off the sprint gains!! < 1336455944 429904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You finish putting on your +3 scale mail of cold resistance. < 1336455945 268655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bade < 1336455959 720436 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-228-15.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336455963 751344 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-233-207.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336455970 802767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha ha crawl says "boob" < 1336455974 899116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336455975 359211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336455975 692958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336455988 271162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :( < 1336455988 673000 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :80085 < 1336455991 216494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you let yourself get surrounded again < 1336455992 818660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl is hard < 1336455993 593137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336455994 706422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres < 1336455997 664271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really much option in monqys-crawl < 1336455997 941054 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do that!!! < 1336456001 855627 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there is < 1336456004 612660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets try tahta gain!!! < 1336456012 983167 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to be really smart about it < 1336456025 125778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a good D:1 < 1336456028 570180 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336456038 159504 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336456051 394339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Found sixteen items. < 1336456082 519184 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus21 < 1336456084 787556 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Should block comments nest or not? < 1336456086 558598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: this game feels very weird < 1336456099 9667 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'll also be toning down item generation but making generated items better < 1336456101 986080 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does it? < 1336456105 682129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's like < 1336456110 924010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how i'd imagine crawl to play if i was dreaming < 1336456120 947705 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like dreaming < 1336456122 119708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'd wake up the next morning and think haha imagine if crawl was really like that < 1336456135 79500 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: D's answer is: Provide /* */ for non-nesting block comments and /+ +/ for nesting block comments! < 1336456181 542369 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336456204 889075 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My solution is to not have block comments, only having line comments and literate programming non-program-code areas < 1336456259 271686 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336456290 318161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336456294 861282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what happened to the axe trog gifted me < 1336456307 978468 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what axe < 1336456316 8411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gifted me an axe when i came down here < 1336456317 330525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's < 1336456318 761743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not here < 1336456323 660867 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did something pick it up < 1336456329 167172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk maybe < 1336456336 977291 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is trog american < 1336456357 397505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there it is < 1336456393 620378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im < 1336456394 727568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so evasive < 1336456413 730691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great swords aren't gr8 right < 1336456418 413406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi xom < 1336456425 496795 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the backstory on trog's birth certificate (creation log) is blank. < 1336456432 170245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336456445 700388 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie. it cannot be determined if trog is american < 1336456497 8887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you might want to remove < 1336456498 507622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrolls of tele < 1336456503 920412 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336456506 482408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336456508 33834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't really < 1336456508 883307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do much < 1336456512 186912 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes they do < 1336456516 172514 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever gotten surrounded < 1336456523 800466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :constantly < 1336456524 984218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1336456538 457171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336456542 763015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why you go upstairs before going down again right < 1336456544 885759 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the monqys-crawl experience\ < 1336456548 101334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336456568 465963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336456570 154620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1336456596 965778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is broad axe < battleaxe < 1336456603 395089 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336456614 982508 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :braxe < 1336456619 403256 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the battleaxe might be vampiric too!! < 1336456638 772010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its chopping < 1336456649 724153 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whats' the dfiference between axe and vamprire????? < 1336456655 789256 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a joke < 1336456661 892779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no its < 1336456663 238891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :choppinge < 1336456665 99486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1336456665 875157 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is if you want it to be < 1336456670 796174 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336456681 420563 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke's that elliott is ignoring shachaf) < 1336456694 533990 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that joke is hilariosu) < 1336456699 865204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does a commutative idempotent monoid have another name? < 1336456722 355504 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1336456726 458174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good tele < 1336456738 356343 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Bounded semilattice? < 1336456745 820888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not only does it get you out of surround < 1336456749 410272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets you into surround too!!!! < 1336456752 109010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all-purpose scroll of tele < 1336456753 124105 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes!! < 1336456817 997810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: O, that is what it is. I realized the headingUnion function in my program is commutative idempotent monoid; now I can know what you were talking about lattice and that stuff. < 1336456846 749953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not even going to < 1336456851 764478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the god gifts any more < 1336456874 80885 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want a vammp weapoin < 1336456875 728219 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: A semilattice has an operation which is associative, commutative, and idempotent. < 1336456901 931901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i < 1336456902 686420 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get something like a babttlleaxe or an exec axe or a bardiche and it's glowy or artefact it might be vamp < 1336456903 522450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot to go up < 1336456904 158683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew < 1336456905 642229 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want a vamp weapon < 1336456963 489758 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, integers are a semilattice with bitwise or. < 1336456969 677006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK. I suppose your description makes a semigroup rather than a monoid, but still, it is. < 1336456971 382769 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they're a lattice with or and and. < 1336456983 840177 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: A "bounded semilattice" also has an identity. < 1336456990 248724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i get that war axe < 1336456993 948246 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1336456995 914568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336457004 258444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i get this war axe < 1336457008 269959 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Hypercubestar_binary.svg good graph < 1336457040 558716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK. And, yes, I can see how the integers with bitwise OR make the semilattice (and it can with AND too; the identity for OR is 0 and for AND is -1) < 1336457074 798731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1336457079 865921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why didn't you remind me :''( < 1336457093 207513 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Right. A lattice is two semilattices with some additional rules. < 1336457094 681464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I can understand why you were saying I needed a lattice. < 1336457114 80636 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was saying that? < 1336457137 773592 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe elliott was; I forget exactly who said what < 1336457141 59267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was me < 1336457147 654719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you see that berk < 1336457149 604562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :professional < 1336457150 365554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :berking < 1336457151 31395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monster < 1336457312 250593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck i forgot again but it all worked out < 1336457443 985102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEH NICEINWA < 1336457447 487372 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It might well have been me at one point; I just don't remember the context. < 1336457467 701442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: when does the difficulty ramp up < 1336457474 831367 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1336457569 74576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw < 1336457572 115258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't sacrificed a single corpse < 1336457573 199284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336457576 244428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't really help the piety thing < 1336457602 692980 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336457617 92868 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well "enjoy it for now" < 1336457626 573686 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you may or may not need it later" < 1336457642 158664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man!!! < 1336457643 422946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zombes < 1336457644 491242 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for when like all the levels are full of nasty stuff" < 1336457659 353776 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "you know the game where you put things in quotation marks?" < 1336457670 239945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that was < 1336457671 57290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pitiful < 1336457728 557392 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1336457734 709847 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It was when I was asking about how to determine which heading is the most specific one < 1336457766 952128 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you like semilettuce < 1336457775 479878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: this game is < 1336457777 875215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely dysfunctional < 1336457798 612304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont mean that in a bad way necessarily < 1336457803 57293 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what happened < 1336457807 319234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just < 1336457809 857132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuing to be monqys-crawl < 1336457858 750500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336457861 729536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should switch one of my rings < 1336457865 911486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both < 1336457866 408003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336457870 290957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the good rings in monqys-crawl < 1336457870 635753 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what happen in case there is more than one most specific match? I can think three possibilities: * Just select one arbitrarily * Display error message * Expand all of them, and if the expansions do not match, display error message < 1336457885 960070 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your rings aren't so great, except maybe teleportation < 1336457892 551690 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe sinv < 1336457893 949634 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe MR < 1336457904 796711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is EV useful in monqys-crawl < 1336457906 227248 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably made ev megasuck < 1336457908 695530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have < 1336457909 606348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of ev < 1336457911 39149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336457930 575417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336457933 289852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :illegal instructino < 1336457947 552044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha ha oh wow < 1336457950 747940 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get to the choke!!!! < 1336457950 932427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this when the difficulty ramps up < 1336457957 529470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difficulty isn't ramped yet < 1336457970 471671 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're not dumb you can take this level ez < 1336457985 286354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the level of indrection here is like < 1336457985 466275 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that's kind ove overkille < 1336457988 796282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im playing dwarf fortress < 1336458009 526121 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i definitely need to unbuff piety wow < 1336458013 303986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1336458015 249700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty amazing < 1336458023 478973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest < 1336458028 423316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the amount of killing and the like that goes on < 1336458037 583333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably just set it back to normal and it'd still go up really fast < 1336458073 253285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh ooh < 1336458074 146963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec axe < 1336458097 648212 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not vamp? tsk tsk < 1336458120 877772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have < 1336458122 199952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much crap < 1336458184 323899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336458185 369236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im burdened < 1336458185 794170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336458204 522457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess ill < 1336458206 339382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop one of the axes < 1336458214 598304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is worst axe :( < 1336458222 360176 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayb its the flesh < 1336458233 548598 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drope the hand axe and the baroad axe < 1336458234 844465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :point < 1336458238 145741 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the cope axe < 1336458260 94914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it frozze < 1336458266 274634 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dide it < 1336458269 60814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336458269 665637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i < 1336458270 621803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+Z < 1336458272 25407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill -9 %% < 1336458273 64983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./crawl < 1336458275 143424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it keep the save < 1336458280 540875 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336458293 669549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336458296 651237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice level < 1336458296 982597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb one second < 1336458299 689689 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have digging? < 1336458326 473776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336458329 871039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have lots of unidentified wands < 1336458332 221524 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336458341 88255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could go up the upstairs but that would be kinda anti-monqys-crawl < 1336458354 254937 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least halfchoke them < 1336458360 105954 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll die if you let them surround you like that < 1336458365 455861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336458367 786236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont really see how i can < 1336458370 705644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if i pick off that troll < 1336458373 332959 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a halfchoke in the lower right < 1336458386 48154 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus your bros will kill a few dudes on your way there < 1336458404 557584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have < 1336458405 669283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bodyguards < 1336458426 765214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i actually lost a star of piety < 1336458436 381627 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you get for < 1336458436 911294 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1336458441 616526 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb star < 1336458445 825216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahaha < 1336458506 556964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my godddd < 1336458508 621218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh you know what < 1336458513 995802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have enough fucking wands < 1336458515 712485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok thats not true < 1336458534 519806 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :identified them? < 1336458539 183654 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might b useful < 1336458555 941406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop the useless permafood < 1336458558 279375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can probably get rid of some of the wimpy ones like: maigc darts, frost < 1336458569 538077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336458576 871586 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah so you got one of those levels < 1336458584 70550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this started as a kobold vault < 1336458585 811248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1336458587 101307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only there was a giant spore next to you and a centaur over there < 1336458587 628219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1336458588 659335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :went wrong < 1336458607 489073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would happen if i biad < 1336458611 145511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would the level < 1336458612 553968 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldnt work < 1336458612 837703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :burst at the seams < 1336458618 913664 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :u can try < 1336458687 445573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1336458688 550621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my pack < 1336458689 936696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :being full < 1336458703 221566 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop your useless rings < 1336458713 97079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did mostly < 1336458718 664963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the dex rings useless < 1336458720 257737 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff gain streng < 1336458721 979615 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336458764 240137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it frez < 1336458769 600149 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oupes < 1336458792 434582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl is unwinnable now, right < 1336458794 779100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336458796 219820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :branches < 1336458799 163732 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right yeah < 1336458811 278848 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can pretend a victory is getting to d:27 < 1336458814 896689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1336458816 601749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slime creature < 1336458818 629988 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big is that slime creature < 1336458820 891026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :large < 1336458824 534651 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's niot so big < 1336458826 292586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill zerk < 1336458827 767594 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill it before it grows < 1336458836 240622 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad idea < 1336458838 779193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhhhh < 1336458840 678536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what even happened < 1336458846 462304 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that orc warrior wielding < 1336458859 246669 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah trident < 1336458862 562769 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway kill the slime creature is your best move imo < 1336458868 309196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see my hp < 1336458870 64665 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldt have zerked tho < 1336458888 188790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it goes down quick when stuff hits hard < 1336458901 324573 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that xombie < 1336458906 870726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hill giat < 1336458913 817089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want this zerk to end so i can quaff something nice < 1336458926 599328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long am i < 1336458928 536042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to survive and also < 1336458929 806999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to be berked < 1336458938 608591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is ridiculous < 1336458963 775329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336458964 11170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's fair to say monqy's crawl difficulty is starting to ramp < 1336458965 354236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is ac doing nothing < 1336458971 772535 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing? < 1336458978 83792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336458982 639570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do it when hungry??? < 1336458984 819307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336458985 369699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slow < 1336458986 596598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or exh??? < 1336458987 341274 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ac does a lot to things that hit weak, but not much to things that megahit < 1336458988 319303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what is it < 1336458990 847147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no as in < 1336458991 985369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's literally < 1336458992 554489 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1336458994 385623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT spawning anything < 1336459001 845357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just skips my turn < 1336459004 497330 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh, i thought you meant AC < 1336459008 313396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336459013 125116 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're surrounded by too many things < 1336459021 704743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1336459021 722982 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :summons won't work if you're surrounded 2-deep < 1336459037 185419 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you could use it if youw eren't starveing < 1336459050 84031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill eat < 1336459051 862294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(jokes) < 1336459056 828393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun fainting < 1336459058 75531 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(jokes) < 1336459067 109387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i hear starving lasts < 1336459068 893733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a long time < 1336459071 427509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it < 1336459074 769064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :different in monqys-crawl < 1336459077 629992 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336459160 184834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how come it only lists two god gifts on this level < 1336459161 304235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its been saying < 1336459165 328573 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: is there a simple ISO/.img file of bootsraplinux? It seems like I could use it to build sabotage < 1336459165 711013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TROG GRANTS YOU A GIFT < 1336459166 969021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the past hour < 1336459177 507366 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they're all buried < 1336459197 423813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_It hits you but does no damage. < 1336459198 641422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good. < 1336459207 886662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You open it like a pillowcase!!! < 1336459208 495987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336459258 810697 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you upgrde your armoures < 1336459262 167828 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can: you might want to < 1336459268 453195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im on plate mail < 1336459272 808799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336459275 18942 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336459286 685258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah < 1336459287 162675 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess you'll have to find crystal plate or gold dragon armoures or something like that < 1336459288 512512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took an hp hit there < 1336459296 237993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are hill giants still scary in monqys-crawl < 1336459298 981307 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-228-15.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: A) no B) no, and I also need to update bootstraplinux. < 1336459304 461308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: with that ac yes < 1336459317 635298 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :curing? really? < 1336459318 88839 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-228-15.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be an easy effort, but still, it's several versions out of date. < 1336459323 749916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it was < 1336459326 202806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb mistake < 1336459330 717876 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336459332 323177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhh < 1336459334 565539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i go again < 1336459340 952761 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want!~! < 1336459342 119387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im truly feeling the "monqys-crawl experience" here < 1336459362 441631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you uh < 1336459367 919448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really do have to do something about the item swamp though < 1336459372 622447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you change spawning drops need to be < 1336459374 314712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :changed somehow too < 1336459379 407936 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i kno < 1336459400 60193 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: thanks. It almost has everything needed to build sabotage and I didn't want to install complex distro that I would replace almost immediately < 1336459407 530616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your opinion relating to Feng Shui? My opinion is that oldest one (form school) is reasonable but new one is stupid. It is also my opinion that "chi energy" is not energy. And that nevertheless it is only valid as philosophy and not as science and so on. < 1336459441 33036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's the furthest you've gotten btw < 1336459454 57232 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that game you made me enter templ with < 1336459464 885505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"suck er" < 1336459482 222152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever read/watch Kaiji? < 1336459501 238657 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-228-15.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Actually, I think it actually is enough to build sabotage... < 1336459501 408871 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that is it good < 1336459505 187530 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-228-15.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it missing? < 1336459516 741824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice staircase mimic < 1336459520 922690 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whoa don't do that!! < 1336459523 857579 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: does it have gawk? < 1336459531 964058 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1336459533 702397 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336459565 216981 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-228-15.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nortti No, but it has busybox awk! < 1336459565 414969 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336459588 104941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaiji, as well as Akagi, are very good quality manga although the drawings are bad (the author admits this). Akagi play mahjong and eventually has to play "Washizu mahjong" in which most of the tiles are transparent, and the loser has to lose their blood too, as well as money < 1336459594 714995 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-228-15.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nortti BTW, sh4rm4's sabotage is at https://github.com/rofl0r/sabotage < 1336459594 912422 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336459628 821385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops it freeze < 1336459632 306091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336459641 37685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a --more-- < 1336459642 164338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336459647 118629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no it froze but then < 1336459648 434086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got better < 1336459650 326596 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336459691 994875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336459696 554531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'm fucked at this junction < 1336459743 688722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how do you do wizmode (cheating!!!) < 1336459760 316063 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont wizmod < 1336459763 995050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Akagi, Washizu is the richest man in Japan, but then he lost *all* of his money at a game of mahjong, and even became in debt, and then his blood was removed too and he died too < 1336459768 590031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok < 1336459774 525143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would happen if i < 1336459780 597699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :played one of the other modes with the game like this < 1336459786 698325 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :break < 1336459798 393334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its froze < 1336459803 716704 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oop < 1336459811 653063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1336459870 413622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336459892 215202 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you'd be better at ddbe (but maybe you wouldn't) < 1336459913 554967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats deep dwarf do < 1336459915 156890 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with dd you don't regen naturally so you'll want to use ab a lot < 1336459920 873497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i knew that much < 1336459931 46780 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get damage shaving and lots of hp < 1336459947 15493 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a wand of healing, and an ability to recharge stuff at the cost of permamp < 1336460010 728863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by use ab a lot i mean < 1336460020 939381 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since piety is free you might as well be ab whenever your hp isn't full < 1336460022 951917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im getting the same effects by just levelling up < 1336460118 699182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: vampiric!!! < 1336460126 409922 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you unarmed < 1336460131 200559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336460133 112783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336460137 993308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat something so you can weirld it < 1336460194 400498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good level < 1336460255 567109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i switch to < 1336460256 662736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec < 1336460259 240378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it might not be vam < 1336460259 985412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1336460313 758266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336460317 701224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: youre the only monqys-crawl expert!!! < 1336460335 307537 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336460347 761147 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch when your broad axe stops being sufficient < 1336460359 783673 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it still oneshots everytting and heals you at the same time, it's a good deal < 1336460399 246458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god bless you, trog < 1336460459 647757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you want to hear joke < 1336460462 480788 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336460468 47941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl without Ctrl+F < 1336460499 204294 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by monqys-crawl i hope you mean "monqys-crawl in its current state" < 1336460507 856100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going to ruin it??? < 1336460516 114390 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336460521 23079 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :less clutter < 1336460532 371832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym less art < 1336460545 910563 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i plan on making it so monsters that don't damage when they hit you explode on contact < 1336460561 932506 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that artistic enough < 1336460573 26687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336460578 477354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336460641 468272 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine hitting a brick wall really really hard but you don't do anything to it. instead you explode. < 1336460647 409065 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it's like for people who hit you < 1336460674 668978 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "sounds fun" < 1336460683 447904 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i playe :'( < 1336460687 576085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice level < 1336460693 538592 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe < 1336460699 58947 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice eyeball < 1336460714 412307 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyeball < 1336460726 241216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote imagine hitting a brick wall really really hard but you don't do anything to it. instead you explode. that's what it's like for people who hit you < 1336460728 707425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: That is one thing that will be affected by your damage reduction, then!! < 1336460735 84988 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :853) imagine hitting a brick wall really really hard but you don't do anything to it. instead you explode. that's what it's like for people who hit you < 1336460747 666366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336460764 638060 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote delquote < 1336460767 969419 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :751) `delquote 419 * HackEgo has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * EgoBot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * glogbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) \ 847) `delquote 848 < 1336460771 283982 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote delquote < 1336460774 111402 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :751) `delquote 419 * HackEgo has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * EgoBot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * glogbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) \ 847) `delquote 848 < 1336460775 53011 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote delquote < 1336460777 116633 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1336460789 260105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1336460805 473585 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you see my fancy graphe < 1336460810 475818 :impomatic!~digital_w@37.152.241.139 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336460814 727652 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a bug in it, namely being "wronge" :'( < 1336460815 341190 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oops < 1336460819 396712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want, make the same rule apply when the PC hits an NPC and fails to do damage....... or maybe not...... < 1336460825 921065 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular quasigroup and loop are wrong. < 1336460826 22329 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, I have not seen < 1336460850 598096 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://slbkbs.org/fancy-graph.ps < 1336460884 301489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no program on my computer for PostScript; I can read DVI, PDF, HTML, but not PostScript. < 1336460899 63398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I can load PNG file on my computer too. < 1336460905 549255 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://slbkbs.org/fancy-graph.pdf < 1336460935 335394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I can read PDF, I don't like it much. But I will try to load that one < 1336460939 275231 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep in mind that quasigroupe and loope are wronge < 1336460954 147736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the increased hunger is super annoying good job that's going away < 1336460966 444157 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :increased hunger? from spamming bia? < 1336460970 996022 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and trogshand? < 1336460985 401758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought it was sprint < 1336461018 310241 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you download it? < 1336461051 775496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. I can see it now. < 1336461052 288776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the part where no chokepoint < 1336461061 696664 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's plenty of choke < 1336461063 557318 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: isnte ite < 1336461064 880562 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancye < 1336461068 35955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1336461071 49513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :downright maybe but < 1336461071 887435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lower right < 1336461073 417355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty far away < 1336461082 437079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said quasigroup and loop are wrong. < 1336461085 599870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe with that attitude < 1336461087 8420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, can you fix that? < 1336461098 122068 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No because it would be too complicated. :-( < 1336461101 428575 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can get rid of them, though. < 1336461120 466826 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: (A quasigroup has division, which isn't the same thing as an inverse.) < 1336461129 212785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ichor-stained < 1336461134 685744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks interesting!!! < 1336461141 582424 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And in fact an inverse without an identity doesn't make much sense.) < 1336461143 864113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : N - the +1,+8 battleaxe of Proximity {god gift, chop, Str+2 Int+3} < 1336461146 462685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is interesting! < 1336461149 675694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not vamp though :( < 1336461224 215098 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow elliott < 1336461228 16099 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you rack up 169 games already < 1336461235 268433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dying a lot < 1336461239 484207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway im done with crawl now im playing monqys-crawl < 1336461244 740728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet termcast.org if you want to watch < 1336461283 302891 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between monqys-crawl and crawl < 1336461290 508929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhh < 1336461293 231595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you kind of have to see for yourself < 1336461295 409653 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: "monqys-" < 1336461297 132029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one thing is that the maps are 24x24 < 1336461330 456310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i should put on amulet of faith (laughs) < 1336461335 15020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so quasigroups are like latin squares. < 1336461343 414328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: also it segfaults a lot < 1336461350 64344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: here, let me demonstrate it < 1336461354 672756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one sec < 1336461372 942540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1336461376 354462 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :niceh < 1336461379 113372 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you do that < 1336461382 678110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went downstairs < 1336461385 312931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the level gen algorithm has < 1336461387 100515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :difficulties < 1336461391 111599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But groups are also latin squares (although not all latin squares are groups) < 1336461397 868608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: see that? < 1336461399 886058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's monqy-crawl < 1336461401 309615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*monqys < 1336461404 444900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1336461405 165609 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a lot of things < 1336461407 503803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually the monsters are scarier than that < 1336461407 883165 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you kill all the things < 1336461409 523497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's more of them < 1336461413 493546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: yes, you one-shot most everything < 1336461416 993477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he removed all the randomness from combat < 1336461418 119079 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336461420 45341 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336461423 191427 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's deterministic-crawl < 1336461423 383896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1336461426 403441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"work in progress" < 1336461432 420177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, draconian < 1336461435 741813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are draconians scary < 1336461435 780952 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, a draconian < 1336461441 415806 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not vanilla dracs < 1336461442 614336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: (everything is either really weak or incredibly scary) < 1336461444 953743 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't see you < 1336461446 161210 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's behind glass < 1336461460 582257 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: so is he applying his max ac every single time there's an attack < 1336461466 517681 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336461470 516759 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and attakcs always do max damage < 1336461473 75357 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" 10:12 shachaf (And in fact an inverse without an identity doesn't make much sense.)" well there's quasigroups < 1336461476 43069 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about ev < 1336461478 586100 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it ever help < 1336461483 799892 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk what happens w ev or sh < 1336461483 973245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i get into this < 1336461485 389474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1336461491 432219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Xom :') < 1336461492 146126 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yes, quasigroups are the topic there. < 1336461497 643215 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have division but not an inverse. < 1336461516 570139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: the other thing about monqys-crawl is < 1336461520 906335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your pack fills up ALL THE FUCKIGN TIME < 1336461521 581717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336461525 343954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it uses sprint piety < 1336461526 400367 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were the topic? wtf < 1336461527 138650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog < 1336461527 833152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never < 1336461528 744535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stops < 1336461529 984980 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to read this < 1336461530 368612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :giving you shit < 1336461542 113218 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i see < 1336461610 355577 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of one of the bonus dungeons in shiren 4 < 1336461618 661111 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you one shot everything but you only have 2 hp (every attack on you deals 1) < 1336461626 429243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How exactly are the quasigroup and loop wrong on that fancy-graph? Maybe you can explain why. < 1336461700 812496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can you < 1336461705 349941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :increase the pack size to like < 1336461710 803185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :include 0123456789 < 1336461711 52727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized there may be something wrong in headingUnion so I added these three lines: headingUnion (T_Para x : xt) (T_Para y : yt) = T_Para 0 : headingUnion xt yt; headingUnion (T_Para x : xt) (y : yt) = T_Para x : headingUnion xt yt; headingUnion (x : xt) (T_Para y : yt) = T_Para y : headingUnion xt yt; < 1336461723 292917 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should quaff mutation and cure mutation < 1336461726 477515 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will free up two slots < 1336461735 587364 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Because what does "inverse" even mean when there's no identity? < 1336461744 664427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:22 nubinia (L4 SEMo) killed the ghost of elliott the Scratcher, a weakling FeCK of Xom. (D:3) < 1336461756 494040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i can live with those mutations < 1336461760 145836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does cure mutation only get rid of the bad ones < 1336461767 920016 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cure mutation gets rid of random muts < 1336461792 427908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It doesn't. < 1336461800 697649 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to get rid of mostly bad muts/add mostly good muts you need jiyva or nemelex < 1336461803 176240 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or zin I guess) < 1336461805 130212 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Precisely. < 1336461806 362665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: it got rid of them all :( < 1336461822 34389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yes i just quaff ided < 1336461845 452219 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything you can't quaff id safely < 1336461846 630391 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 12 curing < 1336461846 871937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, nevertheless, a group will be a quasigroup too since the division will involve the multiplication by the inverse < 1336461850 497809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it? < 1336461855 698058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaand it's frozen < 1336461860 740625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: potion of porridge < 1336461874 169689 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Right. < 1336461881 559015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336461884 599004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it doesn't like D:10 < 1336461884 775817 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But the arrow from "magma" to "quasigroup" says "invertibility". < 1336461887 670125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there we go < 1336461900 767085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then how will it be described by latin squares? < 1336461941 7513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: O, yes, it does; but perhaps the text should be moved slightly so that you know it is not part of a phrase "invertible unit"? < 1336461968 925738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : f - Device Recharging 1 Permanent MP 7% < 1336461972 555982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did that come frmo < 1336461973 984721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dd < 1336462029 615562 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Healers are still annoying. < 1336462064 569874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: it's better than crawl btw < 1336462091 205701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's frozen again < 1336462096 496352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: also you can't just compile it < 1336462100 258292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to compile stock crawl < 1336462102 126932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :run it < 1336462106 422104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apply the monqys-crawl patches < 1336462108 834302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile in-place < 1336462109 912673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run that < 1336462112 986489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it crashes on startup < 1336462144 779142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why does it do that? < 1336462145 492167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1336462149 171185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: THIS is monqys-crawl < 1336462161 134280 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all? < 1336462162 770576 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not impressed < 1336462164 801454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336462166 5357 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's mennas < 1336462166 967189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is < 1336462170 9215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl early game < 1336462174 333736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :about one or two floors down it uh < 1336462177 326133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gets a lot harder < 1336462227 286610 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1336462230 230154 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't deep dwarves basically robots < 1336462234 238484 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they don't have any natural regeneration < 1336462268 56865 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you're not oneshotting everything maybe you should upgrad your weapon even if the upgrad wont be vamp < 1336462274 893277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's < 1336462276 194285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+8,+6 < 1336462281 618807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spent about a billion enchant weapon scrolls on it! < 1336462288 379494 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would he upgrade to < 1336462288 896880 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336462289 240968 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec? < 1336462291 778262 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336462291 908604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have < 1336462292 929330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec and < 1336462293 13202 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or bardiche < 1336462293 972795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing < 1336462305 507751 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the exec is vamp < 1336462308 515177 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exec will do a LOT more damage < 1336462310 278163 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it's not vamp < 1336462319 898885 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: vamp is op in monqys-crawl < 1336462330 660371 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elec good in monqys-crawl < 1336462336 36373 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1336462337 658595 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1336462348 401963 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336462348 881523 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1336462349 579837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what < 1336462350 99948 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1336462350 351822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it < 1336462351 632679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont need more rings < 1336462383 522024 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's monqy labs like < 1336462389 799629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably crash < 1336462441 946666 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, for things like EV and SH and so on < 1336462451 427034 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe multiply the damage by (chance EV/SH had of preventing it) < 1336462452 806437 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and applying that < 1336462457 259379 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Tell that to dot. < 1336462460 358935 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc for related things < 1336462465 186977 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@ppp-70-251-235-49.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336462465 205222 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@ppp-70-251-235-49.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net QUIT :Changing host < 1336462465 205377 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1336462482 522203 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: All I did was write a program to generate the .dot file. < 1336462501 94995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you know what < 1336462502 474452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck autoexplore < 1336462505 152014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just going to ignore that loot < 1336462530 397752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And it has no option to stagger the text? < 1336462540 44587 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm quite sure that it does. < 1336462543 136315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: labyrinth ;) < 1336462545 683329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nah it'd crash) < 1336462549 975387 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go in!! < 1336462552 529128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336462556 229863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes!!! < 1336462561 369569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd lose my save < 1336462566 689128 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need revenge for that templed game < 1336462597 549160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Then create a copy in case it might crash < 1336462616 570441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is zzo38 suggesting i savescum :O < 1336462644 149913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its crash < 1336462658 251122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a quasigroup like a latin square with labels? < 1336462707 897865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: this, too, is monqys-crawl < 1336462725 187135 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dangerous are centaur warriors in monqys-crawl < 1336462738 997108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how dangeorus are < 1336462770 975652 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy probably doesn't know either < 1336462771 667019 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :find out < 1336462772 11542 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunnnno" < 1336462784 513566 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's not so bad < 1336462795 329736 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most things aren't so bad < 1336462805 426208 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but watch out for enormour slime creatres < 1336462882 854754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap < 1336462887 738675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: arrows are uh < 1336462889 264409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :op < 1336462895 778680 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaur warriors "maybe are so bad after all" < 1336462909 134298 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget if i touched ranged code < 1336462909 477850 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336462909 826304 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1336462912 661717 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336462947 910188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill buy digging < 1336462950 960615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or polymorph other < 1336462956 855265 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :face it < 1336462959 935844 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you use polymorph other -on- < 1336462985 460880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :large slime creatures < 1336462992 239123 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't work very well < 1336462996 219396 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just turn into even nastier things < 1336462998 527985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd probably turn into orb guardians or something and hence be about ten times less powerful < 1336463001 88810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to polymorpht them into small slime creatures? < 1336463006 71756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how monqys-crawl rolls < 1336463011 634904 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I guess in monqys-crawl < 1336463013 705754 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be an improvement < 1336463030 301176 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You should make a better graph! < 1336463040 377216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or can you polymorph small into large? Maybe it help better sometimes? < 1336463052 789810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: this, too, is monqys-crawl < 1336463058 542446 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's looking more like it < 1336463061 525564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: your game is great btw < 1336463066 114287 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1336463071 698882 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not done yet!! < 1336463076 935434 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"going to get greater" < 1336463078 31584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's perfect! < 1336463114 290975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1336463115 655736 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch out for that enoumours slime oh it dead < 1336463116 767039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an enormous one < 1336463118 268260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great!! < 1336463121 217146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no there's < 1336463121 763559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :another < 1336463122 445842 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336463123 345481 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336463132 260511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the other was just nor enourmous < 1336463133 301237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1336463152 45482 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336463154 668805 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do orc priests smite once/round < 1336463156 889422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O no now it dead!!! < 1336463163 551984 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: combat isn't completely deterministic < 1336463170 167231 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but priests are nasty < 1336463241 519186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1336463243 783132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i go jiyva < 1336463247 422570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1336463247 958651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1336463248 373982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since < 1336463252 195673 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jiyva for neutral slimes! < 1336463252 714384 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog wrath is funny < 1336463253 414326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im relying on trogs hand and bia for absolutely everything < 1336463261 221990 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jiyva gives you healing on slurps < 1336463277 416183 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you probably get near unlimited slimify with that piety gain < 1336463289 576135 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a bit overkill < 1336463291 465681 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt bia < 1336463299 358388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you define overkill when there is no practical limit < 1336463313 400814 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1336463321 626659 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you are starving < 1336463324 865858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it < 1336463324 959642 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on the next level < 1336463326 989606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happens a lot to me < 1336463344 63919 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun dying < 1336463357 17017 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm serious you're going to die here < 1336463361 971068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i go upstairs or < 1336463366 815959 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes upstairs < 1336463379 135611 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you made a silly mistake coming down without eating < 1336463387 421892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336463388 46348 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a different stairs down too < 1336463389 375113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :upstairs conduct < 1336463391 675574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well uh < 1336463393 370384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did search for < 1336463396 626959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :food < 1336463397 260733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336463398 311626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :permafood, elliott < 1336463398 829450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was none < 1336463415 831684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"forgot about that" < 1336463443 501171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i < 1336463448 470113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just killed SOMETHING < 1336463456 80278 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :unseen horror, maybe < 1336463458 45773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i train axes maybe < 1336463461 983127 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336463463 402001 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1336463463 745723 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :your axes is 3.2? < 1336463466 826300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: no delay < 1336463472 102267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what would it < 1336463472 518733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get me < 1336463472 689474 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no delay what < 1336463475 658686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: attack < 1336463476 129084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thingy < 1336463478 585000 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336463480 490910 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long do attacks take < 1336463482 392692 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: monqys-crawl uses fixed attack delay 10 for the moment < 1336463485 187626 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1336463490 128276 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it going to be changed to < 1336463493 159507 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336463498 908910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what would training axes get me? < 1336463503 376367 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more damage < 1336463507 832170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want damage < 1336463517 439385 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fighting also gets you damage < 1336463530 947350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why not" < 1336463543 402058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :going down a different staircase doesn't really help much in monqys-crawl < 1336463550 976599 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :miasma? < 1336463551 494433 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1336463559 2711 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probabaly a ault < 1336463563 453518 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vautl < 1336463564 591420 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vault < 1336463583 243238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how < 1336463588 782643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ranged weapons are terrifying < 1336463600 688219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im slow < 1336463616 881085 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :misma does that and also reduces your maxhp < 1336463627 733724 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally you < 1336463630 498199 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont want to be in miasma < 1336463642 583408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklob plants are terrifying right < 1336463645 537982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have range deflection shield? < 1336463663 529180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip, oklob plant < 1336463697 234443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: THIS is monqys-crawl < 1336463698 547675 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336463700 543594 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of things < 1336463703 496602 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :can < 1336463703 842705 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :u < 1336463704 645607 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :dig it < 1336463706 367221 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1336463718 76942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice ogre mage < 1336463734 348991 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bam, dragon'd < 1336463735 598567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1336463743 817303 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ta < 1336463753 97801 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get the dragon dead faster oh your bias died < 1336463765 458869 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hit the draggin i guesssss < 1336463809 960197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhhh is any of this crap worth buying < 1336463816 286446 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336463822 936494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the randart armour < 1336463828 209524 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the scal mal < 1336463830 962323 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you have little gold < 1336463833 894750 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhh < 1336463838 800902 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what armour do you hav < 1336463847 435943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing of interest < 1336463850 531407 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fill a slot you don't hav < 1336463851 741322 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try the helmet < 1336463861 144209 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it will be funny < 1336463866 483291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336463868 279319 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh do you have horns < 1336463869 140983 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dropped it on the floor < 1336463871 905290 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1336463872 186325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336463873 330017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pack is fool < 1336463873 499523 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheheheh < 1336463874 521069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :full < 1336463889 728976 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ever going to id those wands < 1336463890 590921 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336463893 529371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1336463901 342902 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1336463903 590998 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, slaying! < 1336463911 551632 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what slaying is < 1336463913 861610 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Dam+? < 1336463915 795054 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336463919 168373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the uh < 1336463922 667863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-3 and int-3 parts don't sound too good < 1336463931 595325 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-3 doesn't affect you aside from statdeath < 1336463937 252388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :restored anyway < 1336463945 195294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff iding yessss < 1336463955 445455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1336463956 919273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a chei altar < 1336463961 377094 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1336463971 484317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to just < 1336463972 495280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stare at it < 1336463975 601408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in lieu of actually converting < 1336464005 829890 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :id stuff with the scrolls of id < 1336464010 375677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah later < 1336464031 616532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336464032 259601 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen worse < 1336464193 610432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_n - the cursed ring "Griotom" {AC-5 Dex+4} < 1336464195 479520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh goode < 1336464231 794083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i put on < 1336464244 493511 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336464247 928531 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not guardian spirit, since you're DD < 1336464255 795951 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :warding is kind of pointless < 1336464256 867411 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :faith I guess < 1336464257 252246 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336464266 291266 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :faith is pointless too < 1336464267 167461 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sustanance or evasion for the ring < 1336464269 952078 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on which actually does more < 1336464272 287819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :faith will just make trog give me more shit < 1336464272 926100 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: more bia! < 1336464279 186589 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, put on warding at least < 1336464282 219216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"more bia" < 1336464283 470250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: infinity plus one equals.... < 1336464285 227744 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rpois < 1336464289 769508 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they at least do SOMETHINGa < 1336464290 290746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already have rpois on < 1336464293 557446 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, lmao < 1336464297 696841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill put on sustenace and wrarding < 1336464298 224580 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you have two rings of rpois then < 1336464300 890307 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336464304 668724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336464306 350997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just ided them now < 1336464335 159818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336464337 261199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no upstairs monqy < 1336464343 850504 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there is < 1336464344 214206 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336464345 249572 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's past a trap < 1336464345 768436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you srue < 1336464351 271710 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so G is like DERP < 1336464353 884522 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't get there boss < 1336464354 574224 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah go thro the tarp < 1336464363 814432 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a wand of digging < 1336464365 183131 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1336464377 590170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1336464380 753279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336464382 708547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i put anything else on < 1336464390 7772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336464403 65162 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe nothing for now, but evo later? < 1336464406 353767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336464407 49448 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336464407 369373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"later" < 1336464408 310462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evo now < 1336464408 999011 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336464409 859851 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336464414 877705 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ~whatever you want~ < 1336464474 474048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336464476 523417 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good level < 1336464486 383110 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trove entry vault < 1336464488 292920 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336464488 567606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :berk time methinks < 1336464498 324956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me if that's stupid < 1336464502 593929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336464506 420989 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1336464511 168861 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1336464514 99386 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely stupid < 1336464516 375669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1336464520 362994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*why < 1336464522 961603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're in danger it's stupid, and if you're not in danger it's also stupid < 1336464533 874642 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that enough of a hint < 1336464546 876972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336464549 757154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what could < 1336464552 364261 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, sprint 5 is difficult. < 1336464552 557221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly be dangerous < 1336464553 246918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just < 1336464553 742027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking < 1336464565 120359 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know but < 1336464571 88195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if are in danger right now < 1336464573 738158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were correct the headingUnion being incorrect to figure out what is more specific; I realized that myself, it used to a(1) and a(#1) became unioned to a(#) which is not equal to either of the inputs, but now it result in a(#1) which correctly specifies the second one as less specific. < 1336464591 574168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:09 louise[1/2]: She banishes regularly, stings, blinks, stone arrows, lightning bolts and heals herself. She comes equipped with heavy armour and usually a shield. < 1336464592 608821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1336464596 764780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does the abyss < 1336464597 188195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :work < 1336464601 239078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if no: < 1336464601 946973 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1336464606 374337 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336464609 810466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :louise literally has a crash game spell < 1336464652 283015 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice fiend < 1336464657 418214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: have you seen this level < 1336464658 952759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its amazing < 1336464665 38525 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1336464668 215096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1336464668 844072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiny < 1336464669 254043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336464671 512592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mangled with a vault < 1336464672 348595 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1336464673 82460 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zot trap < 1336464677 970405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is that fiend dangerous < 1336464679 106205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336464681 375153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i walked into a zot trap < 1336464682 115834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever me < 1336464682 817749 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ice fiend is technically summoned < 1336464683 201565 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336464684 70159 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just leave < 1336464684 243061 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably dangerous < 1336464685 491163 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wait it out < 1336464688 489180 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is it? < 1336464691 451020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i < 1336464693 425404 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it? < 1336464693 861207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stepped onto a zot trap < 1336464695 683370 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zot trap effect < 1336464697 552148 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be durably summoend < 1336464699 619585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :check with x < 1336464699 791787 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336464700 658157 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :check then < 1336464705 13038 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :durably, yeah < 1336464705 183151 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash < 1336464715 217401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yow < 1336464723 352231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh if i swap with my C will that help < 1336464724 635032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i just < 1336464728 520912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff something < 1336464737 530154 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want rC I guess < 1336464751 814288 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice fiend will < 1336464755 317566 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably hurt like hell in melee < 1336464756 783101 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice hell < 1336464758 337116 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocytus < 1336464763 675051 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :patashu gets my joke < 1336464775 145429 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cockytus < 1336464779 347792 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336464779 731760 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad < 1336464791 364234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so um < 1336464793 685193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i < 1336464797 228937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap with one of my Cs to hide < 1336464798 60925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336464801 962102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff something and then do that < 1336464802 213321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336464802 928253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ac again < 1336464812 159917 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :swapping with c will protect you from melee but not torment or bolt of cold < 1336464832 707136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why < 1336464833 413872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :option 2 < 1336464839 914167 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice fiend melee hurts, and it especially hurts in monqys-crawl < 1336464841 639932 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336464864 341580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky < 1336464889 201855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what is the portal to? < 1336464895 170850 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret trove of treasure < 1336464907 721111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not helpful :'( < 1336464914 483956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336464915 767760 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it and see < 1336464916 825242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's literally called trove < 1336464917 361085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336464918 628888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: dude < 1336464924 348594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :90% of portals crash monqys-crawl < 1336464931 905628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big is trove < 1336464932 497309 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they? < 1336464935 171545 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :save then check, then < 1336464937 431334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well anything big enough < 1336464946 705046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: no as in < 1336464948 731256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't get the file back < 1336464952 581264 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336464964 128615 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that ossuary didn't crash it, and when i tried a sewer it didn't crash, it just didn't have a map (it made a quaint little room with some escape hatches out) < 1336464979 896557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the portal expire < 1336464983 132304 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336464988 962752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it requires an item to function < 1336464994 671667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what item < 1336464999 738042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1336465004 93810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336465005 165912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i savescum < 1336465013 586260 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll prompt you for the item < 1336465018 331167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1336465018 758031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1336465021 881685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it doesn't crah < 1336465022 835343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crash < 1336465024 730450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and eat my game < 1336465026 644650 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure fine whatever < 1336465031 454189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1336465035 175480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhhh < 1336465037 726688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you want gda for yourself < 1336465040 750358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a +4 gold dragon armour? < 1336465041 681846 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that you have it < 1336465044 745433 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336465047 268937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would happen if i said y < 1336465052 282128 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try and see < 1336465058 616220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336465068 346848 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if you find gda you'll want to wear it < 1336465089 666166 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you find a gold dragon and it leaves a corpse, chop the corpse up, and if it leaves a hide, enchant the hide, then wear it < 1336465097 466556 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wear the resultant armour, that is < 1336465114 853963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10, 9, 8... < 1336465125 930604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yawn < 1336465128 823413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how pedestrian < 1336465189 880628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1336465199 952443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:19 agnes[1/6]: A megabatshit crazy spriggan fighter with a good lajatang. Speed 18, base damage 30. < 1336465200 568364 :libaofeng!~libaofeng@221.11.38.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336465203 994873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to back behind my dudes i guess < 1336465205 802508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome libaofeng < 1336465208 751436 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :libaofeng: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336465247 875461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :libaofeng: Do you like this?? Us channel we many things a lot < 1336465255 934418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks zzo38 < 1336465262 273727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Including, but not limited to, this.) < 1336465375 400369 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336465378 601748 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice fire crab < 1336465382 572872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they scary < 1336465387 424608 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't evne breathe? lame < 1336465388 340485 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1336465412 858061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, mennas < 1336465425 126806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336465426 665409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhh < 1336465428 417697 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336465428 885172 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mennas < 1336465435 841342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf!! < 1336465441 775906 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :silence < 1336465443 319195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mennas silenced you < 1336465447 627104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help :( < 1336465448 484485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i dead < 1336465452 48332 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336465452 66532 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go up the stairs < 1336465460 956661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: tell Patashu about the monqys-crawl condut < 1336465461 960965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*conduct < 1336465482 637027 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i havent removed stairs from monqys-crawl yet, so there's a conduct where if you play an op char you morally have to not take upstairs < 1336465512 902276 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you play an underpowered char you can do whatever you want < 1336465518 503182 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1336465522 446195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uhhh < 1336465525 202701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how scary is mennas < 1336465533 69126 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336465533 287423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how long does silence last < 1336465543 188800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336465547 875529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is monqys-crawl, so mennas is different scarywise < 1336465549 786220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have potions of berserk rage and might so < 1336465552 466243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll just < 1336465560 49842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :berk mennas < 1336465561 149675 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might an dzerk doesn't stack < 1336465567 630353 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can do either of them < 1336465567 880865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't say they do < 1336465571 966563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :might is just berk without all the bad stuff right < 1336465583 609721 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and without haste or extra hp < 1336465597 884670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336465598 759419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :berk then < 1336465607 686107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was easy < 1336465620 149045 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice ogre mage < 1336465625 830193 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice stone giant < 1336465625 848345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :christ < 1336465628 277328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ranged combat is < 1336465628 771915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336465631 98102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stone giant fuck that < 1336465633 842081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the < 1336465635 564206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ranged < 1336465637 101909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brought me down < 1336465637 682543 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll throw stones at you, elliott < 1336465638 134351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336465647 886442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahhhahahahahahahaahhaa < 1336465651 703490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all that < 1336465658 629770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really < 1336465659 239214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1336465660 54308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :REALLY < 1336465662 620626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to nerf projectiles < 1336465674 417995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: hope you didn't miss that!!! < 1336465706 550649 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i should sleep now or something < 1336465737 80438 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1336465742 612079 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1336465743 487739 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :miss what < 1336465749 163941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336465750 850516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336465753 377265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i died < 1336465755 969968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mennas was a pushover < 1336465759 402132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogre mage was a pushover < 1336465761 560050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogres were pushover < 1336465763 709865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then < 1336465766 625998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stone giant < 1336465769 284702 :SimonRC_!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336465769 408841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :while i was still berked < 1336465770 884526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1336465771 728441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is < 1336465774 857896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stone giant didn't kill me < 1336465780 65342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just threw some rocks at me < 1336465782 387065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those killed me instead < 1336465788 529285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-crawl projectiles are < 1336465791 806488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scar < 1336465792 326403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1336465874 836838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1336465877 211167 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drops a DF drawbridge on elliott < 1336465879 267617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: it's fun; you should play it < 1336465891 736464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you use windows < 1336465905 246996 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ... < 1336465912 467071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336465917 433402 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PuTTY exists, I think there are Windows versions of Crawl, etc. etc. < 1336465925 787546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't assume i'm an idiot < 1336465928 73291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im talking about monqys-crawl < 1336465931 897925 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1336465935 545272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless Patashu has a C compiler toolchain installed < 1336465938 18699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336465940 491121 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might, somewhere < 1336465942 967612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how to compile crawl on windows anyway < 1336465949 452235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: including MSYS or Cygwin? < 1336465953 781984 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think I'll wait until monqys-crawl is more... < 1336465958 58421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you need git so < 1336465959 262027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will MinGW work? If not, will Cygwin work? < 1336465961 501580 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not crashy < 1336465967 972424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: the crashes are easy < 1336465972 953822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go up before going down and you never lose more than a few seconds < 1336465981 697831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cygwin includes git and ssh, as well as many other things < 1336466018 320177 :SimonRC_!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336466068 283743 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336466258 247525 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"First of all, be aware that trains leaving from Kaliningrad runs on Moscow time an hour ahead of the local time. Thus a train advertised as leaving at 6:30PM actually leaves at 5:30PM local time. Comedian Yakov Smirnoff might have said, In Russia, trains leave on time but you get to the station late! Clocks at stations use Moscow time." < 1336466408 278941 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336466759 229103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: welcome to google < 1336466763 839110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hello" -- google < 1336466777 148134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Google Search] [Im Feluckiny] -- google < 1336466808 381943 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336466815 331224 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you drunk < 1336466825 835389 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's illegal to be drunk on the internet < 1336466828 685798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searching for: ? < 1336466828 826659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your search did not match any documents. < 1336466828 901281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suggestions: < 1336466830 330973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try different keywords. < 1336466832 266616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Search Results < 1336466850 612842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How Drunk Free Online Flash Game - How drunk are you? Pass this ... < 1336466850 754259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.tokenarcade.com/play-56-How%20Drunk.html < 1336466850 827483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How drunk are you? Pass this test! ... People who played How Drunk Flash Game also enjoyed these! About Us | Help | Privacy | Bookmark Us | Contact Us ... < 1336466852 192241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :R U Pissed? - Online Breathalyzer Test and Blood Alcohol Content ... < 1336466854 180712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.rupissed.com/ < 1336466856 259997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feeling a bit drunk? Not sure if you should drive and risk a drink driving DUI or DWI charge? Try the R U Pissed online alcohol breathalyzer test and blood ... < 1336466858 179220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 Stages Of Drunkeness - BAC Calculator Methodology ... - Standard Drinks < 1336466860 176963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please type ±±>= to something that decides all the choices next; and then take the head of the resulting list. If any branch has no more match, we just end with [] and then the next one will be tried. < 1336468379 716332 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does *any* other programming language expand macros in this way???? < 1336468513 635771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1336468659 364039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we need to have some more complicated tie breaking, one way to do so is to use WriterT [Int] [] so that the numbers are also given as the monoid which, if tied, are equal; and then the head of the final result we check the first however many entries have that equal tie, and then do tie-breaking based on that (resulting in error if it is impossible). < 1336468929 891529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What would you do if you exploded *and* evaporated? < 1336468984 886906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: How can I do anything if I have exploded and evaporated? < 1336468993 18525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point. < 1336469018 530013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I thought zzo38 proposed a featured language candidte. < 1336469020 875954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*candidate. < 1336469022 120731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he didn't. < 1336469065 37526 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336469119 732085 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336469316 203897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't done so. I am simply describing possible features of WizardCard while thinking about it, to give anyone the opportunity to object to any of this, or endorse it, or something else. < 1336470418 707170 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr NICK :sebbu < 1336470473 139593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: how dare you < 1336470628 325944 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1336470683 122995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu "arrested for crimes against disto" < 1336470691 707164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't anticipate the monqy police :( < 1336470745 244888 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried disto a bunch, I don't think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages < 1336470748 603105 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never used disto on my ogak run < 1336470782 824386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yrr skill arested < 1336470840 139408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stille < 1336470946 796143 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4512 "Feather: A Heapless Functional Programming Language" < 1336470961 250970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: 10:09 @tell ais523 http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4512 < 1336470965 242911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAKE THAT FINLAND < 1336470975 558248 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I just lastlogged feather < 1336471005 92477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Did you see our NEW WIKI CONTENT? http://esolangs.org/wiki/♦ < 1336471053 434703 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Righto < 1336471063 684711 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like HAKMEM? < 1336471065 471835 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-229-106.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336471099 225635 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-233-179.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336471100 94077 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336471100 111866 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336471358 312798 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336471417 276297 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336471698 382536 :cheater_!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336471800 460507 :cheater!~cheater@g231033255.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336471898 275102 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336472013 846452 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336472075 177464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read about a circle algorithm that uses only subtraction and shift, and uses no extra registers < 1336472138 712098 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is very simple; only a few instructions. < 1336472269 614860 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...did you actually see the code? < 1336472338 460310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I did; but that was for an old computer and I have reimplemented the same idea on other systems < 1336472379 798234 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: / --> ! < 1336472464 819492 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336472471 583474 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out how to do frequon invaders with one invader at a time < 1336472473 310696 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :two is...funky looking < 1336472528 309924 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336472723 429196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What time is it in Finland? < 1336472783 4403 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:25:23 ( elliott) Deewiant: What time is it in Finland? < 1336472791 381453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, fizzie. < 1336473272 878209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336473810 495657 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336473816 281484 :cheater_!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1336473898 824298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336474058 304244 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336474365 474260 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336474399 444509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1336474401 352193 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336474711 642768 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336475078 279180 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336476315 55403 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEB6ED.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336476805 538549 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEB6ED.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336477365 407824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336477366 997064 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336477679 393011 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336477810 583215 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336477921 357363 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336477934 255211 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336478080 545680 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336478145 598573 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336478206 276509 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336478556 512205 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.230.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336478648 278111 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336479072 137879 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336479247 59073 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336479318 34694 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336479894 271523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336479983 71648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lambdabot < 1336479983 269031 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336480352 206271 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336480368 95640 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336480368 252570 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336480387 883488 :SimonRC_!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336480545 359392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1336480548 288466 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336480748 314373 :SimonRC_!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336481346 536735 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336481587 260934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336481598 420444 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336481599 77832 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.178 QUIT :Changing host < 1336481599 95880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336481612 62148 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 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google; the jury found exactly 9 lines of code copied out of 15 million, Oracle look like they want damages for them anyway < 1336484530 299322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could lead to a hilariously small verdict < 1336484619 27451 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336484745 154345 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336485008 294406 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336485096 766013 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336485497 796307 :libaofeng!~libaofeng@221.11.38.152 QUIT :Quit: 离开 < 1336485608 315227 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336485666 65013 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336485841 3178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336486138 56332 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336486265 478068 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336486305 567246 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN 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:#esoteric < 1336489898 276845 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336490417 832725 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336490948 305624 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336491241 521722 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336491241 577603 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336491241 577746 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336491329 500952 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336491642 901570 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.230.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336492368 768036 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336492615 613179 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336492681 423159 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fPlpZATsNDc clop clop < 1336494530 13405 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336494670 789255 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ano_Engxo8 >:-) < 1336494676 265243 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336495152 11765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336497193 808271 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336497208 34999 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336497385 342359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you made up the laws of a country, would it be permitted to eat peanuts and walk backward while a concert is on? < 1336497396 668306 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336497419 397118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good, because I do not see any reason to prohibit it. < 1336497437 367526 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the depends who's eating those peanuts and walking < 1336497445 309553 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/depends/ < 1336497452 566802 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1336497456 377095 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :just remove the the < 1336497463 285612 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose he was a criminal < 1336497469 676840 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I would not allow that < 1336497497 533929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in general. < 1336497941 816130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think video games are a "higher" pleasure than push-pin? < 1336497950 84808 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336498015 749977 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :push-pin? < 1336498074 941077 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have arrived at the conclusion that video games. < 1336498085 424951 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336498085 552159 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1336498097 515487 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1336498097 766113 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq said 10h 42m 7s ago: No, but it has busybox awk! < 1336498097 840379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq said 10h 41m 37s ago: BTW, sh4rm4's sabotage is at https://github.com/rofl0r/sabotage < 1336498115 922189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quoting from this book: "Push-pin is a child's game in which each player pushes or flips his pin with the object of crossing the pin of another player. In Bentham's time, it was a metaphor for a meaningless and trivial activity." < 1336498148 963472 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: sh4rm4 said gawk is required to build sabotage < 1336498188 643494 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats a pin? is it like a safety pin? a small nail? a button? < 1336498202 202434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. I am only quoting what the book says. < 1336498206 430247 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol! < 1336498215 79947 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :PIN, personal identification number < 1336498238 419051 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack.push(flip(PIN)) < 1336498263 365204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the description I would guess it is simply a meaningless game where the pins will inevitably cross each other < 1336498301 253541 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-147-236.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336498343 794974 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps that nothing is achieved if they don't. lol < 1336498475 405742 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: sh4rm4 said gnu awk is neded for building sabotage so busybox awk doesn't really help < 1336498542 707458 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-228-15.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336498612 705761 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki says "The game is played by two or more players who each set one pin (needle) on a table." < 1336498653 204970 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-147-236.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impressive, considering stage 0 doesn't have gawk. Or, indeed, much beyond bootstrap linux. < 1336498764 198339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336498886 103098 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: thats strange. I'll have to try building sabotage on bootstraplinux sometime < 1336498978 227197 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-205-183.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336499128 134322 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-147-236.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336500139 860762 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336500474 582990 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336500485 111949 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART :#esoteric < 1336500685 664843 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-129-71.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336500858 691311 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-233-177.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336500874 362543 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-129-71.as43234.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1336501017 551093 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336501038 527115 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336501690 546867 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336501715 328891 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336501719 472026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336501725 880615 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336501739 922660 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish people: should I entertain studying in Finland as an option? < 1336501836 592193 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but you should study entertaining in Finland as an option. < 1336501932 18395 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: maybe < 1336501947 783511 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For maths? < 1336501968 175176 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: no < 1336502200 818640 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're gonna study math? < 1336502208 942282 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most likely < 1336502209 632772 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Finland is just dark, cold and boring, no fun at all... I know because I have never been there < 1336502210 993786 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1336502221 703385 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to turku, we can be research buddies < 1336502317 136407 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Turku do a maths course in English < 1336502360 235294 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might actually be a bit of a problem, we have some professors who prefer finnish because english hadn't been invented when they started < 1336502379 111679 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's like two courses in english usually < 1336502388 83609 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best ones though < 1336502602 869573 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah just a couple of good ones running < 1336502662 293616 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is kind of boggled by the notion of a university that teaches non-language courses in various languages ... < 1336502698 460648 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION technically lives in Europe < 1336502739 405370 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah some people prefer english, some prefer finnish in the math dep, it's annoying. the it dep uses just english, but computer science sucks so who cares. < 1336502755 812620 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the fuck would you know, american. < 1336502768 983418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: stuff like that happens in places where people know more than one language < 1336502819 122418 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :often language changes to finnish if there are no foreigners present :D < 1336502820 677503 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I suppose that's understandable, except that essentially it makes an implicit requirement of being /fluent/ in multiple languages ... if you were, say, a Russian looking to study in Finland, you'd have to learn two languages instead of one ... < 1336502834 609487 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the stuff on the board is still in english in case someone comes < 1336502861 72800 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, English is an international lingua frana < 1336502865 560084 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I think mostly you'd have to already know english, because lol finnish < 1336502872 297982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a "policy decision" nowadays that many pre-Bachelor's-degree courses are done in Finnish, while all post-Bachelor's are in English. < 1336502872 449805 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: if a finn isn't fluent in english, they should not be in a university < 1336502920 30331 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: same one here in the it dep < 1336502925 301677 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have it everywhere? < 1336502954 518226 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the professors are so old they just know german and french < 1336502981 13175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know, I remember it being discussed but I don't recall whether it was a department-, school- or university-level occasion. < 1336502997 958530 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: how you live technically in Europe? < 1336503029 249688 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, by the virtue of geography < 1336503039 621453 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you are questioning the "technically"? < 1336503044 606789 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is < 1336503045 668824 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Europe, technically a good place to live < 1336503058 466738 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK's special < 1336503060 22905 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically living? why not do it in Europe! < 1336503066 69609 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or pretends it is < 1336503073 398145 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not < 1336503082 185587 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe "why not technically live in Europe!" < 1336503104 242605 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: what continent does it pretend to be on? < 1336503143 490331 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, it's honest about geography, but we sort of have a "We're better than those silly Europeans" attitude ingrained < 1336503156 438980 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I know this: the UK is in the continent of England, right? < 1336503173 20454 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I dunno, ask Phantom_Hoover < 1336503196 192122 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I don't trust his knowledge of these things < 1336503219 862454 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, this is why we suck at Eurovision < 1336503239 299414 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: people say stuff like "spending summer in europe" here < 1336503274 903802 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i find confusing < 1336503296 447622 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do some people think that ed is obsolete? < 1336503304 527484 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drink? < 1336503307 846123 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The horse? < 1336503311 336723 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy? < 1336503317 776584 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :editor < 1336503320 130866 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1336503324 14948 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about that < 1336503328 314870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a technically-not-lying way to pretend to have the fortune to spend summer outside finland? < 1336503366 717975 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I use it and I don't think it is obsolete < 1336503381 272503 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drink? < 1336503394 573271 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: your cue. < 1336503398 423051 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the horse < 1336503399 284591 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336503402 214764 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy? < 1336503412 452727 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i use wordpad and latex < 1336503429 975142 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've used ed for a few seconds and it was annoying < 1336503443 130320 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: how does one navigate the University of Turku websitE? < 1336503449 46418 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what do you mean? < 1336503637 901687 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: it was long ago, i don't remember < 1336503663 238231 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drink, your cue, the horse, the guy? o.O < 1336503666 252150 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: press in english and realize it's 5% of the content... < 1336503671 790794 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay god we suck :D < 1336503686 448706 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sci.utu.fi/tdk/en/education/sguide/guide11-12/Mathematics.pdf < 1336503688 41615 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be useful < 1336503718 885567 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: presumably i just couldn't do much with it without knowing how it works < 1336503759 608041 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always use google translate!!!1 < 1336503819 136694 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It isn't that hard to know how it works. Read man ed < 1336503840 746257 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*learn < 1336503858 213883 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: that was through "in english" and pressing "study guide". < 1336503879 842148 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that's all the courses we have in english right now, which is pretty depressing. < 1336503926 612728 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1336503973 487636 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that i think about it, i wonder if it's even possible to do your undergraduate studies here, since just about everywhere, the undergraduate courses are in finnish < 1336503986 502836 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1336503994 459795 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll ask again in about 5 years, thanks! < 1336504011 413709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn finnish ! < 1336504026 828870 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that one of the hardest languages to learn? < 1336504034 776854 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've got, like, 2 weeks to learn Latin < 1336504050 514048 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: spelling no, grammar yes < 1336504055 179041 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :'man' is not recognized as an internal or external command, < 1336504055 261608 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :operable program or batch file. < 1336504059 18899 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 weeks? for all Latin grammar? < 1336504064 596023 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can't be possible :o < 1336504076 80070 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know most of it, I'm just being hard on myself < 1336504089 552815 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: use linux/cygwin < 1336504093 19148 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, most I need for the exam < 1336504109 738143 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and, the vocabulary; they have so much words! < 1336504122 441317 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i have yet to find an "install linux" button anywhere < 1336504124 612244 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the words! < 1336504128 929641 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you allowed to use a dictionary? < 1336504131 178187 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1336504144 832206 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a one-and-a-half hour exam < 1336504150 968469 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then you can only hope it's not poetry < 1336504162 453643 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prose < 1336504165 103115 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: then install cygwin < 1336504169 709669 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they have a separate vocabulary for that < 1336504174 242463 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, prose is fine < 1336504181 329383 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336504182 694181 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: what can ed do? < 1336504190 841070 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if you get Tacitus < 1336504192 741117 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1336504197 451674 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that say wordpad can't < 1336504201 542797 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: edit text files < 1336504208 541695 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tacitus is really hard(sentences stretch over pages) < 1336504248 836971 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it has regexps on search/search and replace < 1336504267 711030 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336504274 764308 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's adapted prose < 1336504278 379256 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, that is indeed useful every few years < 1336504297 677592 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Cicero's pretty nasty < 1336504305 239591 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :some basic syntax highlighting is useful, so i use texniccenter when writing articles < 1336504319 308980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336504323 975562 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, so does Notepad++ < 1336504325 757167 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: a bachelor's degree doesn't take 5 years < 1336504331 624978 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma notepad < 1336504331 755257 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad has a karma of 10 < 1336504346 695194 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, it does if you still have a year left of high school < 1336504347 202780 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can select area to find perform search and replace in (for example .,$s/regexp/string/g) < 1336504355 207973 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hello! < 1336504362 538687 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: skip that shit < 1336504435 903631 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, that may be counter productive < 1336504438 945691 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: that's really not useful very often, at least i don't recall ever missing that feature, perhaps it would be more useful if i was used to it. < 1336504468 249046 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: also i almost never write code, and when i do, it's usually in an ide. < 1336504490 873313 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: high school is a waste of time, just go straight to a university. < 1336504492 893353 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome elliott < 1336504494 415467 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1336504498 678895 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336504500 163333 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336504507 529561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336504523 547916 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: also it doesn't take very much space (under 7kB on my system) and it can be used over very slow links < 1336504525 719073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: IF ONLY IT USED TRANSACTIONAL HACKEGO < 1336504547 529439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love reasons for using software that boil down to "so I can simulate living in the 80s". < 1336504559 344592 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: wait for Tacitus :p < 1336504579 617325 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i have a couple of terabytes to spare, i'm not sure that's a very useful feature either :D < 1336504601 101632 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Actually the version of ed I use is from 75 < 1336504608 309752 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*'75 < 1336504619 954822 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rarely encounter slow links < 1336504624 386523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Bouncer client error" < 1336504627 46683 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i rarely use computers remotely < 1336504660 332734 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasionally i do, but both connections are 100 Mb/s < 1336504675 121585 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well then you are probably better of wirh sonething else < 1336504710 217160 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i certainly am the better of wirh soneting else. < 1336504732 359651 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also learning new things is annoying if it has to do with computers < 1336504753 59493 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a fourteen line poem written by an electric screwdriver? < 1336504796 577194 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what a fourteen line poem written by an electric screwdriver? < 1336504825 44435 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result of wirh soneting < 1336504855 939722 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does wirh mean something? < 1336504879 941544 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like "whir" < 1336504880 318320 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm happy with it meaning an electric screwdriver < 1336504889 926536 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're pronouncing it wrong < 1336504920 531052 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often transpose s's in four letter words begining with w < 1336504928 311619 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/s's/h's/ < 1336504972 305862 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, "whoa"/"woah" < 1336504991 485674 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.vjn.fi/ku/wirh.wma < 1336505036 498865 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yalph"!? < 1336505043 67089 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodbye, elliott! < 1336505091 190115 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what i said < 1336505112 34310 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a noisy room, it's hard to hear < 1336505126 319453 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.vjn.fi/ku/yalph.wma < 1336505154 896201 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be something wrong with your ears < 1336505206 927693 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost went deaf when I was 7 < 1336505246 147165 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you do that? < 1336505270 722310 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inner ears didn't grow properly < 1336505283 75650 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336505286 631655 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are full of surprises < 1336505298 897250 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am an ENDLESS BARREL OF SURPRISES < 1336505350 599600 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i have another+ < 1336505351 862274 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ < 1336505353 646947 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1336505355 197565 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dsfkljasdkfjlasdjf < 1336505362 151245 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1336505366 605602 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336505367 352272 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does the language of my keyboard keep changing? :D < 1336505369 654733 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336505371 74701 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336505372 305106 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336505373 624846 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336505375 987403 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336505377 510329 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336505382 328916 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1336505382 346963 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1336505382 437433 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1336505382 899581 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1336505383 508940 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1336505383 527413 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1336505385 25957 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :419) Gregor: do you have any idea how overrated lives are Damn right! < 1336505388 518838 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::----------------------------------------D < 1336505389 196823 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently effing with the system, please stop X_X < 1336505397 386180 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336505407 815999 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: did you make a booboo? < 1336505417 180359 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the HD is just full again. < 1336505421 796047 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should play Mafia < 1336505422 344339 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how I fill it so damned easily X_X < 1336505424 548010 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric Mafia < 1336505425 746452 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1336505444 654814 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: how large is your HD? < 1336505455 571169 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :20G < 1336505459 432686 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336505465 624456 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you get that < 1336505469 785213 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I'm awful at Mafia < 1336505487 911887 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know it was physically possible to have so little bits on a hd < 1336505489 382168 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: how can you fill that? < 1336505494 864270 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: This is a VPS. < 1336505530 553939 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still very little < 1336505536 141845 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Pip pip cheerio, I'm from the land of five pigs and hence speak with a Cockney accent in pithy phrases because Americans don't understand geography. < 1336505540 506444 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pip pip cheerio, I'm from the land of five pigs and hence speak with a Cockney accent in pithy phrases because Americans don't understand geography. < 1336505546 821187 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, it's the land of six pigs. < 1336505550 484878 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Pip pip cheerio, I'm from the land of six pigs and hence speak with a Cockney accent in pithy phrases because Americans don't understand geography. < 1336505553 489880 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pip pip cheerio, I'm from the land of six pigs and hence speak with a Cockney accent in pithy phrases because Americans don't understand geography. < 1336505573 569093 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336505583 972332 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i can fill a 20G drive in an hour < 1336505626 424239 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm capable of doing it faster, but i mean that's a pretty normal speed < 1336505642 814463 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what? I couldn't fill 6GB drive in a year < 1336505663 719787 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i downloaded 7Gb a few days ago < 1336505679 995789 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, you're actually in 1975 < 1336505685 190414 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 3TB drive, it's about 1/3 full after a half a year or so. < 1336505721 749167 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: IRC wasn't invented back then < 1336505722 50010 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i watched the first episode of MLP < 1336505729 157119 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop pirating all the things < 1336505745 905538 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336505752 723901 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Hasbro really lost a lot of money on oklopol here. < 1336505756 573432 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that is just insane < 1336505768 414361 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I was talking to you < 1336505784 883095 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, because my disk is 1/3 full. Hmmm, what's on there ... < 1336505786 959575 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is your 3TB HDD full of "linux distros" < 1336505794 891318 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: a season of a show takes about 10GB < 1336505801 907026 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only videos I have on there are MLP, I don't think that's going to be 1TB. < 1336505807 99507 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's usually 10 seasons before it's worth watching < 1336505819 763433 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a youtube/ directory because I prefer to watch youtube by downloading and playing later, that's probably largish. < 1336505823 365458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336505834 643504 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My music directory tends to be bloated with pointless intermediary files. < 1336505844 66580 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idonno, I haven't actually checked where the space has gone *shrugs* < 1336505849 191330 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have about 1TB of video currently I guess < 1336505856 511619 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another TB of backups (because I'm lazy and take full disk images of laptops) < 1336505878 785856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My drives are universally either almost empty or almost full. < 1336505886 57298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never seem to go through an intermediate stage. < 1336505886 357265 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i have 1.21TB used after a bit over half a year < 1336505902 868043 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: i watched the first episode of MLP // why did we not continue this conversation < 1336505909 708098 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: So, you watched exactly enough to be at a cliffhanger? < 1336505911 21893 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted, i occasionally just make a copy of everything just to see diskspace get smaller. < 1336505914 543768 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I also have youtube/ and music/ but I still haven't filled more than 10% of my 30GB disk < 1336505917 612928 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: eah < 1336505918 785489 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336505927 833496 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to find the strength to continue < 1336505931 811935 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336505978 437521 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some 250GB of music < 1336505981 932063 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and dropbox/ < 1336506002 359675 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...mostly because I downloaded the touhou collection (MP3 version, I'm not insane enough to download over a terabyte of FLACs) < 1336506007 938919 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Incidentally, the first two episodes, while awesome, are thematically quite different from the series at large. < 1336506015 303015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello monqy < 1336506026 744402 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo < 1336506040 512374 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy who writes smbc commented on my comment on his recent comic < 1336506041 759496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Pfffft, lossy music. < 1336506045 218498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You BARBARIAN. < 1336506058 53556 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION yawns < 1336506060 334386 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audiophiles ┐(￣ー￣)┌ < 1336506062 509530 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has all the Touhou on vinyl < 1336506066 833235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: No, this is purely a superiority thing. < 1336506088 839680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MP3 with a recent encoder at any reasonable setting is going to be transparent on all reasonable hardware and ears. < 1336506091 256080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just like feeling smug. < 1336506092 138874 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : the guy who writes smbc commented on my comment on his recent comic // I think this makes you a celebrity! < 1336506099 238321 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336506099 774127 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/tcjqt/glottal_stop_saturday_morning_breakfast_cereal/c4lg013 < 1336506100 425144 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336506114 449466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Man, I gotta be a celebrity ten times over then!!! < 1336506127 154659 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It doesn't count for people from the land of six pigs. < 1336506135 843444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know Tim Berners-Lee is on freenode? He types really badly. < 1336506151 842822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Speaking of "BARELY celebrities" HAW HAW HAW) < 1336506156 628837 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lol < 1336506161 58829 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hes too busy inventing the web < 1336506161 423450 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336506162 50798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Uh, there's no pun on "barely" there.) < 1336506165 414617 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it wasn't bad, but there was very little sex and violence < 1336506178 865078 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: X-D < 1336506180 134178 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol! :D < 1336506183 21872 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use ogg vorbis for all of my music < 1336506199 333255 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sexes and violences oklopol < 1336506204 121977 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1336506210 219460 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Not gonna find much violence I'm afraid. You have to sort of read too much into it for the sex, but it's there. Applejack and Rainbow Dash are definitely banging on the side. < 1336506215 204201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Gregor: i watched the first episode of MLP [...] Gregor: it wasn't bad, but there was very little sex and violence < 1336506218 331855 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :854) Gregor: i watched the first episode of MLP [...] Gregor: it wasn't bad, but there was very little sex and violence < 1336506317 914550 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i liked how the main character is actually not annoying < 1336506352 477519 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, this reminds me < 1336506372 461827 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to buy one of my friends a MLP vest (British sense of the word) < 1336506427 579656 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :clop clop < 1336506482 208986 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :new private tab, goto /r/clop < 1336506496 856877 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION >_> <_< < 1336506533 854640 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is for ironic climbing purposes) < 1336506562 248763 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But it's so ... steep." "Well it /is/ a cliff. You could just, oh, I don't know, /fly/!" < 1336506729 473955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello!!!!!!!!!!!! Believe a dog < 1336506742 778207 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336506760 62665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Are you believing ? < 1336506764 713434 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336506770 951439 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p.s. what's a dog < 1336506772 163053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its' all good now. < 1336506786 843752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: A small mammal , kind of lik ea kangeroo ; looks like a cat with the tail of a rabbit . < 1336506829 628871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy : If you die please report the incident to Dog Council , thanks. < 1336506906 307314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: dO YOU FEEL AXIOM < 1336506942 866024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i think monqy feel axiom < 1336506962 818095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: please tell monqy if he feel axiom < 1336506964 890034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1336506966 450475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"duck" < 1336506986 639796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what's axiom < 1336506990 609608 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: close your eyes, count to three, feel axiom < 1336506998 554435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it really works < 1336507009 183000 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott i feel axiome < 1336507009 370867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336507034 114801 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott Does monqy know how to @ask vs @tell? < 1336507034 350267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336507039 543437 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott No, no he does not. < 1336507039 683693 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336507043 815565 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott Do I? < 1336507044 74436 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336507047 889839 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott No, no I do not. < 1336507048 53126 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336507081 523612 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott what's @ask vs @tell? < 1336507081 696667 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336507091 271689 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336507097 491664 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't @ask, don't @tell < 1336507099 736217 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello ais523 < 1336507101 184179 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1336507101 202465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336507107 172405 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome ais523 < 1336507110 154317 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336507115 123331 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring, it works now < 1336507133 367581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336507149 715609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1336507149 865873 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy asked 2m 20s ago: i feel axiome < 1336507149 935227 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor asked 1m 55s ago: Does monqy know how to @ask vs @tell? < 1336507149 953875 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor said 1m 50s ago: No, no he does not. < 1336507149 954062 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor asked 1m 45s ago: Do I? < 1336507149 954170 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor asked 1m 41s ago: No, no I do not. < 1336507151 864390 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy said 1m 8s ago: what's @ask vs @tell? < 1336507163 152043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That,s a bit weird' don,t you think? < 1336507166 778101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1336507168 4637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello ais523 . < 1336507181 995411 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: `welcome works now, do you want to be welcomed? < 1336507182 146889 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Sgeo Blah blah blah. < 1336507182 343658 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1336507194 139211 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Sgeo Blo Gno Mic? < 1336507194 283955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1336507265 772489 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo apparently I can't, because you won't let me. < 1336507265 925957 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1336507275 118050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no < 1336507276 846870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes) < 1336507277 264651 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell yourself ok. < 1336507277 448072 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336507280 304646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(secretly) < 1336507281 726848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in my heart) < 1336507283 397163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :yourself < 1336507285 811152 :yourself!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1336507285 991605 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yourself: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336507288 405399 :yourself!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1336507288 565348 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo said 11s ago: ok. < 1336507291 198369 :yourself!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1336507322 705216 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.25 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336507329 84437 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336507390 579017 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ elliott ? esoteric < 1336507393 25982 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1336507406 996620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been in the wrong place all these years?! < 1336507427 249529 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, secretly, in your heart < 1336507900 491930 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Duplo < 1336507911 73408 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought that that was mostly what was meant by Lego < 1336507911 141281 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi olsner < 1336507937 815255 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course, I saw exceptions online, e.g. with The Brick Testament) < 1336507970 152674 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there are only hardness and size differences? Oops < 1336507978 429313 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner do you know of a language which has blocks defined by indent (kinda sorta like python), and where you can define new keywords, which then completely define the syntax in the following block? < 1336508008 646863 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, Nimrod has macros, but I don't know if they're as powerful as you want < 1336508024 544128 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could start out in Forth and do things to your whim. < 1336508025 699004 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want complete control < 1336508032 910352 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth is complete control < 1336508040 573932 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is complete control forth? < 1336508061 469634 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp (at least Common Lisp) is also complete control. < 1336508063 381678 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO: would be nice if the language were just haskell :( < 1336508093 21114 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, hmm, no, Lisp is less control I think. < 1336508101 793660 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although not really less control of syntax < 1336508115 754244 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like less control of the ... runtime? Although I may be wrong < 1336508127 13681 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want total control of the syntax, i guess < 1336508146 80326 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth. Common Lisp, depending on what you mean by syntax. < 1336508163 936305 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factor I think < 1336508186 722701 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, i want the file to be parsed top to bottom, and then when the main parser sees a keyword that defines new syntax, control is completely given to a new parser defined for that keyword < 1336508228 903084 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the outer language is E, then it has a keyword named runf which runs code in F, and then F could have a keyword called rung, which runs language G < 1336508241 692529 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and F could also have rune which would run E < 1336508272 542791 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the syntax changes only based on the context < 1336508286 468253 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be cool to write in i bet < 1336508316 280934 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have e.g. a language which is like haskell's IO, then have another language which is just list comprehensions < 1336508337 712014 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it would be very nice. < 1336508452 505687 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, ... Forth's parser is, in some Forths, defined in Forth < 1336508482 24062 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An example implemention of Forth showed comments being implemented.... in Forth. The Forth that it's implementing. < 1336508491 21335 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After that point, comments work. Before that point, they don't. < 1336508508 792103 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1336508510 175930 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is really cool < 1336508511 383599 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-11-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1336508513 798780 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should check out forth < 1336508525 29081 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one day we'll have forthskell < 1336508530 65396 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The example I was thinking of is Jonesforth < 1336508536 749063 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, they're practically opposites. < 1336508543 189036 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i realize! < 1336508611 579800 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.annexia.org/?p=jonesforth.git;a=blob;f=jonesforth.S;h=45e6e854a5d2a4c3f26af264dfce56379d401425;hb=HEAD then http://git.annexia.org/?p=jonesforth.git;a=blob;f=jonesforth.f;h=5c1309574ae1165195a43250c19c822ab8681671;hb=HEAD < 1336508619 234160 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first is assembly, the second is Forth < 1336508621 570866 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: I recommend learning forth. It is very instersting and unique < 1336508655 516596 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you guys got me hooked < 1336508681 86792 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was mostly me < 1336508857 156017 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah nortti did a nice sidekicking support there but the prize goes to Sgeo < 1336508864 241879 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Sgeo you make this channel so much cooler < 1336509174 324473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336509187 313846 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336509198 869780 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1336509198 888130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336509279 768023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336509292 292457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336509307 994923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336509308 542350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336509314 243840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1336509322 291612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336509485 210547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1336509488 155808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1336509488 837085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336510004 465745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: trying to sort out some DNS issues < 1336510028 912424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you don't normally use virginmedia on weekdays, do you? < 1336510032 584471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :virgin media's DNS didn't even have the number for Google, although it seemed to be missing not all of the websites, about half < 1336510041 519494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I use it when not at work < 1336510049 132824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're ever not at work? :) < 1336510131 846127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm usually not at work :) < 1336510141 666761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially during exam season < 1336510156 142568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, more confusing, eternal-september wasn't in level3's DNS either, but was in Google's < 1336510169 854723 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm on Google's DNS for the time being, and wondering what's up with the DNSes at the moment < 1336510213 618217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: could you run "dig @4.2.2.1 news.eternal-september.org" and "dig @8.8.8.8 news.eternal-september.org" to confirm I'm not going crazy? < 1336510228 394789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no result for former < 1336510229 790858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :result for latter < 1336510238 971275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Verizon are sick of non-customers using their DNS < 1336510249 960351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: same result here < 1336510281 214657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, 4.2.2.1 isn't missing every internetsite, it's just missing eternal-september out of the ones I'm trying < 1336510294 442368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"internetsite"? seriously? < 1336510309 122306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I almost said "website", but news.eternal-september.org /isn't/ a website < 1336510312 482028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I wasn't sure what to call it < 1336510332 332922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "domain" is the relevant thing here < 1336510334 405396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least "internet site" < 1336510358 411984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, "domain" < 1336510397 673381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I still can't believe freshmeat renamed. < 1336510402 669043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's WITH that??? < 1336510416 674352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, OpenOffice became an Apache project? < 1336510433 436146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would Apache want to compete with LibreOffice? < 1336510457 12131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wouldn't, it's just that they're who Oracle donated it to < 1336510467 148287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not convinced they're even trying to maintain it < 1336510467 189666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they going to merge it, then? < 1336510478 937166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's a new release, with new features < 1336510485 164111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336510495 905736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a stupid slashdot comment to match < 1336510593 947935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: your axiom is dying < 1336510624 379229 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what axiom < 1336510632 712244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're < 1336510737 449781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:58 it sounded pretty absurd < 1336510746 652689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ##crawl hasn't seen what i've seen :'( < 1336510750 451775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:') < 1336510875 570269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what axiom? < 1336510896 177943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're < 1336510908 756078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you missed a squarelos game btw < 1336510911 329640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1336510917 290061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a squarelos game of what? < 1336510923 807038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl < 1336510937 282867 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just demonstrating option randomisation < 1336510949 893376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were also demonstrating dying in the usual manner!!! < 1336510954 41688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336510954 213716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a full experience < 1336510962 781797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"option randomisation"? < 1336510964 279666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1336510970 790401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok you have to go again < 1336510975 969925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is < 1336510979 426022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sufering" < 1336510987 405075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the squarelos duty" < 1336510991 933228 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i have to play aghain? < 1336510994 353748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336510995 907364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's on cdo < 1336511054 984294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Viewers: 1 :'( < 1336511059 302839 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that you < 1336511061 869648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336511091 95800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi < 1336511108 628653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but now I've discovered Brogue, I have no reason to play or even watch Crawl < 1336511116 667786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: squarelos is not "Crawl" < 1336511116 792952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reached dlvl 15 in Brogue today, btw < 1336511123 576378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :squarelos is just squarelos < 1336511128 757166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, monqy < 1336511131 691196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your language randomisation broke? < 1336511134 624985 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336511139 626677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using a staff character based around firebolt and conjuration < 1336511140 324512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up with < 1336511144 123565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: congrats < 1336511146 366855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the screen then < 1336511160 202762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly died because I didn't get enough ID to identify the firebolt staff, so it ran out of charges at a bad time < 1336511165 694762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, squarelos games are about 10x faster than Crawl usually is, so you won't get bored :P < 1336511199 732446 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: language just doesn't get set until after those messages print < 1336511205 86614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ah < 1336511264 150922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are you not going to watch :'( (we'ere waiting for you) < 1336511285 700623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not interested in Crawl, and I'm less interested in Crawl modded to be stupider than usual < 1336511293 111230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this isn't modded crawl! < 1336511294 663272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is stock crwal < 1336511298 127317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crawl < 1336511300 15501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't monqys-crawl < 1336511304 656506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's with an option file designed to make it stupid < 1336511312 103990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im offended < 1336511317 803204 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: im offended < 1336511325 29893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you dont even know what squarelos is like!!! < 1336511336 288933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo'ure judgineg < 1336511337 325019 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im dishaertnd < 1336511339 743654 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not playeing" < 1336511352 41170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you just made monqy quit his game!!!!!!! < 1336511355 322085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is ruinede < 1336511397 177837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PART #esoteric :" fizzie: it makes demons fly out of my window, washing the windows api" < 1336511407 698463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything < 1336511409 945017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1336511415 124915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no regular text any more < 1336511494 431943 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1336511495 707976 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sure? < 1336511502 665210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it cant be utnred off < 1336511506 115675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats just the word < 1336511611 442959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : wow, why is pain so good < 1336511612 825248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why indeed < 1336511629 577581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is it secret that ive played monqys-crawl < 1336511641 527075 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you want it to be < 1336511645 499865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1336511651 208720 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you can spoil it < 1336511654 997265 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and talk about < 1336511657 68458 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the experience" < 1336511658 456288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have anything < 1336511660 13474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to spoil it with really < 1336511665 24953 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :words < 1336511671 114077 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-135-165.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336511694 568304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive spoiled with words and punctuation < 1336511703 365143 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, punktuation < 1336512048 271204 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336512131 958463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: am i the second person to play monqys-crawl (am i special) < 1336512140 399309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://www.brandcrowd.com/logo-design/details/22830 < 1336512154 581356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's time for Times New Roman to show its wild side. < 1336512155 617183 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are the second person < 1336512173 431859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :special :') < 1336512184 136329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i had an idea < 1336512185 518170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt < 1336512189 662769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :going downstairs not being very fun < 1336512200 376804 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean not being very fun1! < 1336512202 967345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make downstairs always lead to somewhere with your back to the wall < 1336512211 307141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's kind of repetitive getting crowded all the time!!! < 1336512227 212290 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monster spawn changes will fix that!! < 1336512256 630974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nooo you'll ruin it < 1336512266 646116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what fun would monqys-crawl be if it was just like a 24x24 section of a regular crawl level < 1336512280 862881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess they could spawn in waves rather than all at once < 1336512283 450349 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336512283 795509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1336512289 809619 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say what changes i was making < 1336512294 527871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336512298 498950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed they involved decreasing the spawns < 1336512313 733768 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd decrease the crap spawns, and increase difficult spawns if necessary < 1336512329 183710 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably some ood rate increases < 1336512331 947418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll make getting surrounded be worse!!! < 1336512337 301238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw what are you going to do to zot if you have < 1336512337 818430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plans < 1336512343 217638 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there will be fewer crap spawns so you won't be as surrounded!! < 1336512346 499938 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no plans < 1336512359 278205 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably make an encompass vault for each level or something < 1336512359 625769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make there be 27 levels of zot that would be gr8 < 1336512363 421166 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr8 < 1336512367 390743 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 levels for each branche < 1336512378 772342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336512397 244757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 orbs of zot < 1336512418 558082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: problem with surround vault: < 1336512423 450116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no place for monqys to get in the way < 1336512425 187201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no space < 1336512431 999321 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336512438 242257 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :encompass vault is a technical term < 1336512438 260398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1336512441 7286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys < 1336512442 212580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh encompass < 1336512443 763585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you said < 1336512444 481845 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a vault that takes up the whole level < 1336512446 356542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :surround < 1336512451 17065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i < 1336512453 778900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually completely misread your line < 1336512455 156821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops :'( < 1336512456 882098 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336512603 25103 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-135-165.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336512695 234193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw < 1336512697 480436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's worth < 1336512710 770410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :upping the max size of a level, just so that the average level isn't so tiny < 1336512717 153425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of them don't reach 24x24 < 1336512756 994269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's fine as-is < 1336512762 690664 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :24x24 is pretty big < 1336512775 126865 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so smaller is fine < 1336512806 671928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have weird level size opinions!!! < 1336512892 653990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i wish crawl just like < 1336512897 836881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :smushed levels when they got too big rather than crashing < 1336512906 996141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could go down to e.g. Orc:4 and it'd be complete chaos < 1336513029 550698 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336513189 30513 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336513213 890764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The most important work is the < 1336513213 909243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :category-extras package, which provides a very rich library indeed, including the famous zygohistoprepromorphism." < 1336513225 639587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dons, you wrote that 7 hours ago, there's no way you can't have noticed it's a big page saying it's obsolete! < 1336513243 688460 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336513278 605288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also < 1336513287 241120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pasted in the dependency graph for the split-up category extras < 1336513296 938381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alongside other graphs from other packages that were typeclass graphs instead < 1336513308 849311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think dons writes SO answers like monqy plays crawl < 1336513364 509891 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336513445 591659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: efreets are like ferrets right < 1336513450 80322 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336513456 637982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so < 1336513544 445426 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.230.74 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336513573 98046 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336513703 22407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This seems to be getting on peoples nerves, but I honestly don't understand why, because no one is laying it straight for me. Is this what being married feels like?" ~~~~~~ drb226 < 1336513841 621751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Really hurt your butterflies?" d'awww < 1336513856 937395 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wgat;s tghis < 1336513866 824846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: footv < 1336513869 774080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl said that < 1336513879 279687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esplat? < 1336513886 707007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:49 !lg * cv~~0.1. dam=1 xl=27 ktyp=acid -tv < 1336513886 877739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:49 1. Nevar, XL27 NaFi, T:113031 requested for FooTV. < 1336513893 415240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, not esplat < 1336513895 155762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont' even know wha tthe differences betwene hte splats are :'( < 1336513914 153085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsplat esplat what's the difference "i sure as heck don't know" < 1336513928 486883 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :csplat is the old crawl version of splat tv that used to run on termcast but not anymore < 1336513950 97909 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsplat is when you use the sequell command in the {tsplat} learndb entry < 1336513955 206266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1336513956 242980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336513956 586903 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esplat is when you use the sequell command in the {esplat} learndb entry < 1336513960 901832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the differecen ebteween the two commands!!!! < 1336513983 607148 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsplat is 0.10+ tiles nonconstriction splats, esplat is 0.10+ nonhugeterm nonconstriction splats < 1336513993 859596 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the additional constraints that: < 1336514002 392053 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* they've never been watched on footv before (ntv=0) < 1336514006 728588 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* I forget the other constraint < 1336514007 768344 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*drat < 1336514016 917519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esplat mentions tiles to < 1336514018 122409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*too < 1336514020 365853 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* oh right it picks the game with max xl < 1336514028 473363 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* tiles guarantees nonhugeterm < 1336514035 928184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but < 1336514037 824257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually has tiles < 1336514039 548810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the expression < 1336514041 966616 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336514044 37484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:54 esplat[1/1]: !lg * ((tiles || !@hugeterm)) cv~~0.1. ntv=0 ktyp!=quitting|leaving|winning killer!=tentacled monstrosity|greater naga|naga warrior max=xl -tv < 1336514044 728789 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's disjuncted with < 1336514048 8996 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!@hugeterm < 1336514053 880045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that redundant < 1336514055 951079 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336514063 401796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!@hugeterm looks at a !nick mapping < 1336514065 614097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "tiles guaranteed nonhugeterm" -- monqy, 2012 < 1336514065 958101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336514067 512934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336514074 417798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336514078 907881 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is only a partial list that ##crawl maintains when it finds awful hugeterms < 1336514080 760018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are any tiles players in !@hugeterm < 1336514086 45218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1336514086 63532 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336514088 630630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in @hugeterm < 1336514090 701056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336514091 393076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would seem kinda weird!!! < 1336514099 364388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i saw someone using 80x25 get added to hugeterm the other day < 1336514103 509859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :felt like injustice !!! < 1336514115 292403 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :80x25 screws up the display a bit but not too much usually < 1336514120 565780 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :screws it up more if they use small_more < 1336514127 622436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like small_more but I use 80x24 < 1336514143 972462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant really hate on 80x25 because it's traditional too what with dos and all < 1336514194 90302 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :added to hugeterm? < 1336514194 175695 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't hate on terminal sizes for the sake of them being big, i hate on them since it makes games unpleasant to watch and they mess up tv < 1336514198 319380 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89225.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336514204 885747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :80x25 isn't so bad to watch on cao cdo etc but < 1336514210 197497 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, isn't that why everyone hates hugeterm? < 1336514215 757692 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes < 1336514230 514537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the bots have a list of hugeterm players < 1336514230 859430 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just clarifying that i'm not senseless bigbashing! < 1336514252 665511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: technically it doesn't make them unpleasant to watch if you use bigterm!!! < 1336514267 61483 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does < 1336514271 244885 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :using bigterm is unpleasant < 1336514276 245433 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes up so much of my screen, man < 1336514278 356759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:56 i don't hate on terminal sizes for the sake of them being big, i hate on them since it makes games unpleasant to watch and they mess up tv < 1336514281 290569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a contradicte" < 1336514287 679921 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a contradicte eliot < 1336514322 833949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336514337 761505 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be cool if roguelikes somehow adjusted for the discrepency < 1336514339 689539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ar eyou < 1336514341 582740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONTRADICTING me < 1336514344 931980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :; ) < 1336514345 109229 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1336514351 690422 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what < 1336514373 447220 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, instead of trying to push out exactly what's being displayed, recalculate it < 1336514381 171530 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(push out to watchers) < 1336514427 526264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just called < 1336514433 92806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"using a protocol other than tercmasting" < 1336514579 247203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tercmasting < 1336514593 467134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what does cv~~0.1. do < 1336514649 452074 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cv is the class of version or condensed version or something like that. basically it's like 0.10 or 0.10-a or 0.11 or 0.11-a or something. the version number and then -a if it's prerelease < 1336514703 38998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so complicated :( < 1336514715 150188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apocalypserobin must have been great fun to be a part of < 1336514718 296549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"great fun" < 1336514719 678013 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that thing right htere is to restrict the version to things greater than 0.10-a < 1336514729 942225 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since sequell doesn't have proper version comparisons < 1336514735 527078 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just lexicographic string comparison < 1336514742 616796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which got screwed up come 0.10-a < 1336514749 375799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336514755 253899 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336514759 949128 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greater than or equal to 0.10-a < 1336514796 412029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how apocalypserobin handled hunger < 1336514801 240876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh vampire i guess "in some way i don't understand" < 1336514830 540674 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vampuires have speical hunger < 1336514844 744683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, but don't you still need blotions of pood < 1336514847 331647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*botions of plood < 1336514915 659927 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what you mean by need < 1336514942 458437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to not < 1336514943 518522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :die < 1336515054 101056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strictly? no < 1336515057 33716 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vampires don't starve < 1336515071 811663 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they go bloodless, at which point they have full undead resists and don't regenerate naturally < 1336515097 25184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would explain why it could just spend a year in the temple then < 1336515245 330295 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1336515393 30805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell monqy How do I use @ask? < 1336515393 257370 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336515472 404655 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1336515472 550535 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 1m 19s ago: How do I use @ask? < 1336515484 757909 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Gregor Am I allowed to @ask myself? < 1336515484 953431 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1336515516 889600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself, but can you ask yourself? < 1336515525 569329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot You can tell yourself, but can you ask yourself? < 1336515525 712342 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1336515540 285874 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell  that I said hi < 1336515540 419947 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336515543 943972 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1336515558 683133 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not leaving the message queue anytime soon < 1336515567 197182 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1336515581 779568 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, can you nick to ? < 1336515586 16687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :that < 1336515589 640900 :that!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1336515589 871440 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1336515594 845308 :that!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1336515598 456504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you broke it < 1336515601 388364 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't read that character sgeo < 1336515603 287396 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1336515606 572261 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that characters < 1336515610 996059 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's whatever it is that happens with Ctrl-O < 1336515614 950886 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In XChat < 1336515625 657561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:20 @print-notices < 1336515625 677034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:20 fromList [("\SI",(Nothing,[Note {noteSender = "Sgeo", noteContents = "that I said hi", noteTime = (1336513878,173020000000), noteType = Tell}])),[…] < 1336515627 727770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrates Sgeo < 1336515650 593541 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\SI? < 1336515656 841271 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\SI. < 1336515665 127310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Si, \SI. < 1336515669 475568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you spell si < 1336515675 176543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a fancy accent right < 1336515685 101134 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :si without fancy accent is if < 1336515687 239119 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1336515840 68477 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sí < 1336515869 337181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanskfs monqy you're the greatest < 1336515878 485288 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does s mean yes or no? < 1336515886 84134 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, oops < 1336515890 174730 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes < 1336515895 524352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means both < 1336515896 337013 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does s mean yes? < 1336515906 312488 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when it means no < 1336515915 464396 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dangit, you know what I was trying to set up < 1336515923 494976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dangit < 1336515932 127237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dan < 1336515935 238383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git < 1336516006 504153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1336516040 525195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336516054 343557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336516367 370802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much sadness. < 1336516454 671988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok monqy. ok < 1336516463 852586 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi?? < 1336516469 542990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :( it is acceptable ) < 1336516508 112251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: dont worry! < 1336516721 48022 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336516749 379809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: who invented ##crawl < 1336516754 592722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it aliens : / < 1336516789 666591 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chanserv says the founder's rax < 1336516801 669219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" sounds like aliens to me " < 1336516805 477016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant invent in a more fundamental sense but < 1336517400 635942 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336517558 443189 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336517707 260689 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336517745 863278 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336518110 106871 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336518279 109404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliottc < 1336519373 837573 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336519517 87963 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336520621 663615 :nvt_!nvt@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336520657 649691 :nvt!nvt@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336520678 814479 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how much better is minor destruction than a dart anyway < 1336520685 750097 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never seems to do much (not that darts do either) < 1336520697 350954 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you training invo? I forget. < 1336520707 706224 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive just started "not even worshipping makhleb yet" < 1336520712 728098 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336520744 804793 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a big plus of minor destruction over darts: you dont have to lug darts around or pick them up or otherwise manage them < 1336520760 321517 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use them rarely so < 1336520766 530307 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the losing hp thing is kind of annoying since < 1336520771 190022 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prime use for them is annoying stuff that takes off lots of hp < 1336520776 204141 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1336520777 586999 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :them as in < 1336520778 998385 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ranged stuff < 1336520779 523589 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me < 1336520808 988993 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost tried to go upstairs before going downstairs there to avoid a segfault < 1336520862 662262 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hp loss from minor destruction is negligible < 1336520883 464353 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's mostly useful for finishing of fleeing things < 1336520908 989366 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnoooooooooooolle < 1336521105 832127 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:51 guardian spirit[1/1]: While wearing this amulet, damage you take is divided proportionately between MP and HP. Reduces magic to 0 on wearing. Note that a Deep Dwarf wearing this does not regain mana naturally. < 1336521108 120938 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's useless < 1336521111 914708 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless i u < 1336521116 267884 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*uh < 1336521116 610770 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a ring of magic or something < 1336521206 557537 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it useless < 1336521218 638959 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had < 1336521219 330380 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~0 mp < 1336521221 781995 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :invocations skill gives you mp but makhleb invocations don't use mp < 1336521230 324869 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh does it < 1336521230 676348 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like free hp < 1336521240 605684 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing i died before realising that! < 1336521241 123646 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you don't have a better amulet < 1336521241 813906 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336521244 762226 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or other uses for mp < 1336521316 438268 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i < 1336521320 89138 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot i can't potion of mutation < 1336521329 521908 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how annoying < 1336521536 179929 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336521543 85221 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i seriously dying to a hobgoblin in front of sigmund < 1336521578 396419 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :answer: no < 1336521589 520694 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336521808 490848 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:01 5617. KiloByte the Grasshopper (L5 MuWr), slain by a giant newt on D:1 on 2010-01-20, with 265 points after 60641 turns and 0:15:00. < 1336521829 80543 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like i'm missing something here < 1336521968 499975 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010 < 1336521977 981950 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :were turns different thing < 1336521978 850125 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1336521983 938016 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was kilobyte just < 1336521985 833892 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really fast htne < 1336521986 873391 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1336522007 295966 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be a mummybot or from when there was this bug that screwed up realtime < 1336522020 410549 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll tv it < 1336522081 677751 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: anyway just fixing realtime doesn't explain it!!! < 1336522093 6890 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dying to a giant newt on D:1 after 60k turns is still impressive < 1336522134 354308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could have been a killsteal < 1336522136 974666 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or suicide < 1336522171 467296 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're just giving me more options it could be !!! < 1336522174 258249 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the log says < 1336522182 794850 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and saw 1 of its levels. < 1336522183 649261 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336522199 768071 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/KiloByte/morgue-KiloByte-20100120-231230.txt) < 1336522345 161445 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you have a centaur attached to your nicke? < 1336522519 81431 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that log is bizarre < 1336522691 878086 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336522913 855685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it was a killsteal < 1336523780 384154 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336523869 169058 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m playing a MfBe and will probably die soon. < 1336523937 161856 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thawl. A gnoll shaman on D:1. < 1336523954 141184 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's that < 1336523967 95713 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:39 I don't have a page labeled killsteal in my learndb. < 1336523968 340484 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't exist < 1336523976 441451 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336523980 65653 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway im gone < 1336523999 18775 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will < 1336524002 394297 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never know ........! < 1336524019 552603 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway its not the actual < 1336524019 900076 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a killsteal is when one thing does the real work of the killing and something else does the final blow, getting the credit < 1336524020 72369 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :death < 1336524021 670913 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im concerned about < 1336524024 89603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336524028 303493 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway im gone < 1336524029 167239 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the spending 60k turns on D:1 < 1336524036 82337 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mummyscumming < 1336524036 775363 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway im gone < 1336524037 119890 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh that? i thought that was too obvious < 1336524040 62632 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336524041 791192 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you gone < 1336524044 319039 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336524056 666289 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1336524059 686465 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you gone < 1336524065 291530 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes im still gone < 1336524077 309361 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I was under the impression Crawl distributes the experience based on how much work everyone did nowadays. < 1336524093 94525 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: im talking about monsters killing the player, not the player and his allies < 1336524096 129778 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: good day < 1336524098 549799 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: im gone < 1336524099 934484 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1336524099 998941 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336524101 842596 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to know < 1336524103 246273 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its important < 1336524104 320537 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonqy < 1336524104 347737 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1336524105 472525 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you gone < 1336524106 202584 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I gone? < 1336524106 956969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336524108 584383 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336524110 117919 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336524111 161116 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you gone < 1336524123 331187 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said i'm gone but actually i'm drinking this hot water < 1336524128 519493 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be gone after i finish < 1336524138 447949 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking hot water is basically like being gone < 1336524142 931449 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the water hot < 1336524143 275225 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336524147 529408 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enlighten us < 1336524149 536987 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's actually tea < 1336524151 603926 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good day / im gone < 1336524152 813676 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336524156 953418 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the tea hot < 1336524163 961336 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it ge tburned < 1336524171 912523 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :room temperature tea is gross < 1336524193 240796 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo tea should be drunk at 0 K < 1336524193 416753 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336524199 699996 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never know what those atoms could do otherwise : / < 1336524260 82722 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed. < 1336524322 768795 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think monqy is gone < 1336524336 151068 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonqy < 1336525335 71541 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336525771 195228 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow wobniar^ < 1336525771 213528 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2w3o4b5n6i7a8r9^ < 1336525782 79567 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wobniar sounds like a Pokemon. < 1336525913 134792 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Stop playing, I can't decide between watching you and coolrobin. < 1336526013 95142 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1336526015 414922 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch both! < 1336526046 440832 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: That's impossible. < 1336526103 130114 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You sure do like Trog. < 1336526309 3465 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He likes me, too. < 1336526346 461861 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I'm going with coolrobin because you're hugeterm. < 1336526351 934898 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336526985 106855 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336527136 133397 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1336527210 867661 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Glaives chop hydra heads off, halberds don’t, right? < 1336527274 107204 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, halberds do, too. < 1336527831 431194 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: So why did you use correctterm that one game? < 1336527839 823104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot to resize. < 1336527843 814080 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336527847 829946 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should have kept forgetting. < 1336527870 354034 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, you don't need that many lines of messages. < 1336527888 884138 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s not about the lines of messages, it’s about the size of the game map. < 1336527909 655508 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so chop off a few lines of messages and you'll get something close in 80x24. < 1336527963 151804 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You should abandon Trog for Xom. < 1336527968 882156 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea. < 1336527971 519035 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd get good mutations. < 1336527987 207520 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or die, but that's also an option you have now, so you're not losing anything. < 1336528017 829618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336528295 955763 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What are you doing still with Trog? < 1336528309 785926 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exploring a labyrinth. < 1336528325 424595 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ditch Trog once you're done with the labyrinth, okay? < 1336528339 118868 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ll put that into consideration. < 1336528455 363350 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: By "put that in consideration", you mean "okay", right? < 1336528462 272364 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, you're a merfolk. How hard can it be to deal with Xom? < 1336528466 99439 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like you're a mummy. < 1336528626 268777 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-82.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336528636 772620 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: C'mon. < 1336528639 19119 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+F xom < 1336528685 861199 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+F xom < 1336528700 751316 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1336528705 658290 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+F temple < 1336528721 854066 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+F temple < 1336528752 477493 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl < 1336528753 172318 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ < 1336528753 519636 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :F < 1336528754 549717 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :temple < 1336528763 780809 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336528765 981699 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not how you spell temple. < 1336528796 232905 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-205-183.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336528813 91866 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You're stupid and boring. < 1336528823 586412 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1336528882 549354 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow CONVERT TO XOM IMMEDIATELY < 1336528882 567572 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2C3O4N5V6E7R8T9 2T3O4 5X6O7M8 9I2M3M4E5D6I7A8T9E2L3Y < 1336528968 712145 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Xom wants to welcome you!!!! < 1336528974 430622 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he can't because you won't visit him. < 1336529192 217035 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: He's actually crying. < 1336529198 94360 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :goode < 1336529255 361115 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Now he's laughing. < 1336529262 90791 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHATEVER YOU DON'T LI nice ring. < 1336529273 682144 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you not wearing it? < 1336529308 910544 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Why aren't you wearing that ring. :( < 1336529335 378365 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1336529341 654993 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ll replace the ring of hunger with it when i get a scroll of remove curse. :-) < 1336529343 640178 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice Robustness. < 1336529357 419177 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got both from the labyrinth. < 1336529396 420493 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :berk the plant < 1336530037 819126 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336530140 920658 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: SWITCH TO XOM < 1336530451 353774 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: GT GT GT GT < 1336530523 974377 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, i didn’t even realize i had this good rF and rC. < 1336530628 695114 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: See? So there's nothing Xom can do to hurt you. < 1336530643 723259 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: OK, at least promise me you'll switch to Xom for the orb run if you get that far. < 1336530698 68810 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Trog's wrath won't even bother you with that kind of timescale. < 1336530799 957514 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336530845 842789 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Ping me when you enter a branch or anything interesting happens. < 1336530863 258485 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So I can yell at you to convert to Xom.) < 1336531856 112553 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336531943 902894 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336531950 607436 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336532915 565552 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-112.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336533014 216846 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-82.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336534169 98128 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-229-75.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336534205 385880 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-112.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336534465 978186 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :Excess Flood < 1336535119 140696 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336535125 903915 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-229-75.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336535134 122044 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336535885 746824 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2005 < 1336536248 502963 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: So how do you deal with early-game gnolls? :( < 1336536454 611417 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336537157 643853 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-115-216.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336537949 109363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The diamond seem not even one of the characters it uses itself < 1336537977 490435 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote basically < 1336537981 940277 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :12) GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 85) For those who don't know: INTERCAL is basically the I Wanna Be The Guy of programming languages. Not useful for anything serious, but pretty funny when viewed from the outside. \ 142) So basically we're having an awful lot of very dangerous intercourse. Involving open wounds. I'm going to < 1336538671 556078 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quasically < 1336538673 945370 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quasically: not found < 1336538733 409205 :const!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Excess Flood < 1336538803 580681 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1336539124 85254 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1336539609 833925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make Writer into Either by: uncurry (flip $ maybe Right (const . Left) . getFirst) . runWriter (but this is not the case of WriterT) < 1336539642 706918 :elliottc!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1336539730 480880 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Depends on what you have. :-) < 1336539738 447441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: assume nothing < 1336539739 140041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1336539746 664355 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :flee < 1336539818 897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Polearm. < 1336539916 339114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Stop playing, I'm watching FooTV. :( < 1336539990 473274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:06 casmith789: did you hear about nethack 4? < 1336539993 57450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOSSIP < 1336540290 161426 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336540290 180479 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336540290 180634 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336540318 525940 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the dodging skill worth training when wearing heavy armoure? < 1336540403 596285 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna do L:8 < 1336540452 817926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: No, it's not. < 1336540453 852558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so I hear. < 1336540487 925890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: plz resize ur terminal < 1336540494 687901 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: r < 1336540499 696003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no *ur* < 1336540501 459048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: pls convert to xom < 1336540505 462601 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336540509 58485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls convert to terminal < 1336540512 816860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls resize xom < 1336540813 864562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:20 tiles help you recognize monsters without having to check on the right or put yuor cursor over them. plus it adds flavor to the game < 1336540814 743814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1336540960 858116 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336540999 934946 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, shoals should be nice since i’m a mf. < 1336541021 756524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY AREN'T YOU AXEOME YET < 1336541023 537306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*XOM < 1336541025 318582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Axeome. < 1336541300 874392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Are you dead yet? < 1336541313 969582 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost < 1336541326 393595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great. < 1336541604 998552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rip, Aizul. < 1336541614 824609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" In our hearts as they was in mind " < 1336542329 684518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Are you still playing? < 1336542332 139882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no. < 1336542373 144451 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you hear about my exciting email from Prof. Don Knuth? < 1336542428 423589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Should I sleep? < 1336542447 842519 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : no < 1336542454 323852 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ionno" < 1336542455 863321 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET IT < 1336542563 55276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What message did you get? Knuth has no email, but I did once print out a message, put it in an envelope including address, give it to someone who was traveling there on business, who then gave it to the secretary of Knuth's office. < 1336542595 547189 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: His secretary (or someone) sent it to me. < 1336542680 685481 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what is it? < 1336542782 865030 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He spoke with Ken Thompson and they agree that C89 shouldn't have allowed argc==0. < 1336542816 900432 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And various things. < 1336542933 372255 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there are any security holes caused by executing setuid binaries with argc = 0 < 1336542937 248595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree too; argc should be positive since it include program name, it is a part of how C works. Except: Sometimes in case main is not a program loaded from some operating system, but instead is the operating system itself or something like that, then you should not try to access argc at all. < 1336543007 1660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: At least in the case of some programs I have written, there aren't any since all such programs intended to be setuid, I always check if it has correct command-line parameters first and the program terminates if it doesn't. < 1336543010 559954 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Unfortunately there isn't really a way to pass data in. < 1336543026 866009 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it can certainly cause segfaults. Maybe in some cases? < 1336543031 849230 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, you can pass data in in the environment. < 1336543037 660814 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336543055 755581 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which comes right after argv on linux < 1336543057 503514 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe something that reads too far into argv can be manipulated. < 1336543075 163703 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it seems suspicious. < 1336543076 146310 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking while (--argc) { ... } < 1336543085 898641 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will loop forever if argc=0 < 1336543095 851092 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and read through the environment array on linux < 1336543099 643105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it won't. :( < 1336543111 911832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I write programs intended to sun with setuid, or meant to be called remotely, I am always careful about these things. < 1336543123 826280 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while (--argc) is an idiom that appears in several of Knuth's programs. < 1336543161 141117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But are they standard user programs? If so, it isn't such an issue. < 1336543184 842020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they are meant for setuid or remote, then you have to be more careful. < 1336543189 15168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You infinitist. < 1336543203 398082 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well really it's undefined behavior < 1336543237 337623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either it will eventually wrap around or it will segfault before that happens. < 1336543240 896701 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Even if (argc != 2) { printf("Usage: %s BLAH", argv[0]); } is undefined behavior. < 1336543259 323799 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact printf %s with NULL used to segfault on Solaris libc until a few years ago. < 1336543263 293355 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :glibc checks it, though. < 1336543279 175036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have never done a thing like that; I understand C programming. < 1336543285 751367 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i wonder why you know that < 1336543339 431279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, right. < 1336543344 346237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot C doesn't specify signed flow. < 1336543349 213765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What's a good word for (under|over)flow?) < 1336543369 566296 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Which part? < 1336543395 860690 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I've done a thing like that, and so have a bunch of other people. < 1336543408 549954 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under the assumption that why would argc ever be < 1? < 1336543416 393822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of printf("Usage: %s BLAH", argv[0]); I will hardcode the program name (in a macro if necessary), and use fprintf(stderr,...) instead of sending the usage message to stdout, and include a line break. < 1336543439 589586 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That was just for illustrative purposes. < 1336543448 970963 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1336543471 155475 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if (argc != 2) { fprintf(stderr, "Usage: %s BLAH\n", argv[0]); } is also UB < 1336543482 570111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Is* there a good word for (under|over)flow? < 1336543500 938703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, it is; but as I was saying I do not like to use argv[0] like that < 1336543505 889774 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :optiflow < 1336543521 664002 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1336543566 500380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just call it overflow; I would use "underflow" only for stack underflow; but in case you don't like that then use different < 1336543575 857608 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :secure C programming is easy as long as you don't make any mistakes < 1336543582 394042 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you usually bike on "trips"? < 1336543596 247177 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think arithmetic underflow is a kind of arithmetic overflow, broadly speaking < 1336543610 724633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, it is a kind of arithmetic overflow I agree < 1336543620 883884 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you mean like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_lysergic_acid_diethylamide#.22Bicycle_Day.22 < 1336543654 557225 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, like that. < 1336543659 961062 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you linked to that before once. < 1336543675 633312 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was on Apr 19, in fact. < 1336543703 199938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Quiz Engine is a program I have written in C and intend to make safe and secure; I look and am careful, and it probably is; but if you find something wrong with it then feel free to notify me (try to exploit it first if you want, as long as you cause no damage by doing so) < 1336543723 919652 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What's your long Julytrip going to be? < 1336543732 205948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is all about the drugs. And trains. < 1336543741 336582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Have you ever been on a train... on acid? < 1336543749 296333 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1336543761 808674 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took 2C-E for an airplane trip though < 1336543766 288758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough. < 1336543797 35377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once walked while on ibuprofen. < 1336543798 590820 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm (maybe) biking to Bethel, Vermont for Firefly, which is a New England regional Burning Man sort of thing < 1336543805 414775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just that hardcore. < 1336543814 807531 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i might get lazy and take the train < 1336543834 143210 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336543840 474411 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like 150 miles, probably in 3 days < 1336543845 101772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2C-E is really not a catchy name. < 1336543850 721868 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336543851 933498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They need to work on their marketing. < 1336543866 417154 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it has even been popular enough to get a street name < 1336543869 873162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drugs are totally ready for a disruptive startup. < 1336543879 397571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just need some of that Y Combinator funding. < 1336543896 690154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also insert Haskell joke. < 1336543913 564483 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about genetically engineered E. coli which produce psilocybin < 1336543918 158296 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be disruptive < 1336543941 711732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Any street name is doomed to failure since 2C-E is simply not that distinctive for the majority of users." < 1336543954 36458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, startup joke... uhh... < 1336543962 819093 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it is pretty hard to distinguish the 5HT agonists, honestly < 1336543976 228274 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone has their own pet theory about how shrooms are more foo and acid is more bar, but they don't really match up < 1336543979 870573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wonder if I'm on some kind of watchlist for that search.) < 1336543986 80816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope so.) < 1336544002 942945 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think many people could tell them apart in a double-blind test, but their criteria for doing so will not be transferrable < 1336544034 265476 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336544062 874625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was going to sleep, wasn't I. < 1336544074 495471 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1336544078 162214 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU WEREN'T < 1336544090 303374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the Internet Quiz Engine? Do you believe it is not a security breach? < 1336544102 271796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :( < 1336544116 882145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if I don't sleep now, I'll sleep later. And probably not a later enough later to not wake up when it's dark or getting it. < 1336544117 53034 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interquiz net engine < 1336544143 984255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I meant the other one. < 1336544173 894011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "Do you believe it is not a security breach?" is a question that can only be prompted by something that demonstrates "it" is probably a security breach. < 1336544175 97359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1336544266 1279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is no such demonstration I know of at this time, but it is written in C and the source-codes is available to public, and it can be accessed remotely. < 1336544347 69438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Programming in the 21st Century seems to be devolving into self-reference a bit. < 1336544622 416195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Should I sleep. :( < 1336544640 984963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Are you tired? Is it dark? < 1336544652 472180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes and no. < 1336544658 31952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was dark but then it stopped being dark and got light again. < 1336544674 932939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep if you like to do so, please. < 1336544682 211112 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what is it < 1336544698 583571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The, uh, sky, I guess. < 1336544748 13440 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imeant Programming in the 21st Century < 1336544752 899632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336544764 11169 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that blog < 1336544766 244885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://prog21.dadgum.com/. It's a pretty good blog. < 1336544777 657490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as good as http://arcanesentiment.blogspot.com/, though! < 1336544865 715117 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whowrites arcanesentiment?? < 1336545006 387249 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prog21 claims to be a "super technical programming blog" but i just flipped through a half dozen articles and saw about 3 lines of code total < 1336545018 844932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does it claim that? < 1336545023 133736 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://prog21.dadgum.com/137.html < 1336545053 101285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's more than a little joking. It was more code-focused a while ago, anyway. < 1336545058 660370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By "a while" I mean "a few years".) < 1336545063 703488 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps the author has got a different "super technical programming blog"! < 1336545074 641263 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also here's yet another person who thinks the entire and sole point of Haskell is to never use state < 1336545085 890101 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mainly in re the latest article) < 1336545108 287499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's unfair. < 1336545127 617710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not exactly inexperienced with functional languages. < 1336545131 160915 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1336545133 97494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they should learn! < 1336545157 819414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if you're using state, then it's only tenuously "functional programming" in the "declarative programming" sense most people use it to mean. < 1336545165 317800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether it's Haskell is another matter entirely, of course. < 1336545185 370402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("State" here used as an abbreviation for "mutable state in the usual imperative manner".) < 1336545204 64188 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336545238 628849 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a common fallacy; this article is not an especially strong instance < 1336545239 531016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use state, and a bunch of other things, by using the correct computable mathematical representation of such things. And, isn't there some commands in Haskell to make these imperative kind of state in IO monad? < 1336545240 954459 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"functional programming" doesn't mean much. < 1336545258 534639 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Alternatively, means too much.) < 1336545268 963935 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :means too many different things < 1336545271 580413 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my new goals on the Internet is to avoid arguments that are about words. < 1336545281 125841 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they're explicitly about words, maybe. < 1336545281 906047 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't all arguments about words? < 1336545295 928644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By that definition, everything is a "correct computable mathematical representation". < 1336545302 269090 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, some arguments just use them. < 1336545303 477548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is a correct computable mathematical representation because you can model it formally. < 1336545306 100846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds elegant. < 1336545312 530234 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selegant. < 1336545375 356784 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a super technical programming blog < 1336545395 454547 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Arguments which stem from unshared definitions or axioms are probably rarely fruitful. < 1336545430 895541 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definition disagreements are reasonably easy to overcome if someone notices and clarifies things. < 1336545443 752712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a super technical programming blog. < 1336545470 594242 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If two people have unshared axioms then an argument about theorems resulting from those axioms is mostly pointless. < 1336545491 480779 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they explicitly acknowledge it, and are trying to justify their respective axioms informally < 1336545500 712342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ehird.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/computing-fib3-in-haskells-type-system.html -- is this super technical enough? (Okay, I never made any other posts to that thing. And also I broke the code before posting it because I didn't understand why "instance (C a) => D a" wouldn't work.) < 1336545507 341817 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard a rumour that a tradition in Indian philosophy is to say "these are my axioms; OK, these are your axioms; for the purpose of this argument let's just use the intersection" < 1336545539 902044 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds too reasonable to be true, though. :-) < 1336545542 389386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Not every argument is about words. Some are about irreconcilable differences in value systems. < 1336545552 447019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you can make those to be arguments about words, too. (Such as the definition of "good".) < 1336545584 347507 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can *make* nearly any argument be about words. < 1336545590 430029 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the art of "politics". < 1336545597 899699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336545600 278287 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's pretty cheeky for him to claim to be on "the cutting edge of functional programming research" < 1336545602 962852 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't work out whether elliott's /ignore is on the IRC level or on the elliott level. < 1336545618 217975 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Didn't you hear? "cutting edge" is the old "mainstream". < 1336545625 61449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, cheeky, as in the position of his tongue when writing that. < 1336545628 930228 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to be on at least the "bleeding edge" to be worth anything. < 1336545633 940988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're taking him way too seriously. :p < 1336545656 458174 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it's tongue in cheek, but implicit in that joke is the assertion that actual published FP research is worthless < 1336545671 30324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should test it at first before writing the report. < 1336545681 395383 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you hear how the number of unordered n-tuples of elements of k is (n + k - 1) choose k? < 1336545688 528008 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess I did mention that while you were here. < 1336545703 576204 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"look at this shit essay i wrote, and it's super popular now, I guess that invalidates everyone else working in this field" < 1336545705 818630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's necessarily true; I think he was commenting more on the prominence of what he wrote in searches for the same thing, which had artificially made him resemble an authority. (But this is a silly thing to argue about.) < 1336545775 30725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't used Icon. Maybe I should use Icon. < 1336545821 624185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But any language that can implement its own interpreter isn't total!" Hmm, that sounds too vague to be strictly true. < 1336545903 180320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Have you used Icon? < 1336546067 502155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hey, does that statement correspond to Goedel's theorem?) < 1336546079 632142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And is the vagueness fixed by requiring the same things it does?) < 1336546147 41908 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't < 1336546150 748699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I sleep. :( < 1336546190 194683 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336546206 874337 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to sleep elliott < 1336546210 703052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Why. :( < 1336546218 459097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes at least to me it does seem like Goedel's theorem, too < 1336546255 112201 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i agree with the prog21 guy more often than not < 1336546265 387793 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've linked a lot of people to "Advice for aimless excited programmers" < 1336546273 740186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, I think it does. You want to construct the program P = interpret(encoding of P). < 1336546280 983670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that gets you _|_. < 1336546299 548024 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've frequently ranted about how "Let's reimplement all existing software, but in Haskell!" is dumb < 1336546316 656793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's exceptionally dumb. They should do it in @lang intsead. < 1336546318 632203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*insetad. < 1336546320 6278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fuck. < 1336546321 387772 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336546331 13306 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :extern "Haskell" { ... } < 1336546341 585198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew. < 1336546344 301967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@lang can't talk to Haskell. < 1336546344 464030 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1336546353 907167 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you know that GCC has extern "Java" { ... } < 1336546363 569211 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1336546378 39707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Shouldn't I sleep? < 1336546384 808916 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nein. < 1336546391 427790 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you should sleep < 1336546393 690508 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should implement extern "@lang" { ... } < 1336546407 517540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336546409 805269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing can talk to @lang. < 1336546414 279961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on. < 1336546417 290313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pure. < 1336546430 208088 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: then how will i write a video game?? < 1336546434 208087 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336546435 454451 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate atheists < 1336546447 990073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is the computer going to do anything if the nothing can talk to the @lang? < 1336546450 859574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: divine intervention < 1336546456 54293 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd use a device with a crappy UI if I understand the UI because I made it < 1336546460 57705 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1336546460 755658 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any ahead-of-time native compilers for C# < 1336546462 547211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There must somehow be some command to do so. < 1336546479 456008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It will mumble to an x86-64 computer if it has to. < 1336546482 46600 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it is only the other way! < 1336546488 138702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it will refuse to rise to the level of "talking". < 1336546508 543419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it'll be really rude about it, should I sleep. < 1336546553 370875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Should I sleep. < 1336546590 225466 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird that there are no high-level "mainstream" languages with AOT native compilers < 1336546605 8312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AOT native compilers are sort of horrible to use. < 1336546615 706576 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There's gcj, isn't there? < 1336546624 456806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Does D count as: high-level; "mainstream"? < 1336546625 10233 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336546628 906206 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly that's not a mainstream compiler. < 1336546631 940195 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should have put "mainstream" on "compilers" as well < 1336546635 716058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, checkmate Pythonistas. < 1336546635 886404 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think D is mainstream < 1336546640 962907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...It had to sound similar.) < 1336546645 825314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's in TIOBE!!!! < 1336546651 205383 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg tiobe < 1336546661 960868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIOBE, also known for: absolutely fucking nothing else. < 1336546664 876493 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Index Of Bad Estimates < 1336546670 923116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nothing fucking, perhaps. < 1336546670 941387 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :burn < 1336546686 834889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOKING FURTHER AT THE TIOBE INDEX (this is my catchphrase), Lisp sort of counts. < 1336546689 826194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also... Logo? < 1336546700 545459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They think Logo is the 19th most popular programming language. < 1336546702 94380 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe COBOL is high level < 1336546707 412571 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody my age knows anything about COBOL < 1336546708 897896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... not sure what's up with that. < 1336546727 91748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a bunch of false matches for the word "logo". < 1336546734 924722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck is NXT-G? < 1336546739 658564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336546739 676686 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Does Algol 68 count as mainstream and/or high-level? < 1336546740 348402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lego. < 1336546749 911026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently that's the 20th most popular programming language! < 1336546749 929161 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I guess so < 1336546762 149744 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Vala counts as both < 1336546765 63970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algol 68 counts as "mainstream"? < 1336546774 110452 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was at one point at least. < 1336546780 198712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was? < 1336546787 64401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My understanding was that nobody used Algol 68. < 1336546791 383362 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an Algol 68 interpreter installed on my machine. < 1336546793 828009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's complicated as shit. < 1336546800 437453 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a weird language. < 1336546801 719462 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vala is used to write desktop apps, which we all know is the criterion for language success < 1336546802 972376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ALGOL 68 is substantially different from Algol 60 and was criticised partially for being so, so that in general "Algol" refers to dialects of Algol 60." < 1336546814 580185 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sure 'nough. < 1336546841 473127 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders whether there can be such a thing as cynicism overflow. < 1336546841 491493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a fork of the GNOME note-taking application Tomboy that tries to be completely identical in every way except it's written in C++ rather than C#. < 1336546843 673597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Mono. < 1336546850 922477 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps we can figure out a way to exploit kmc. < 1336546854 543723 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell might be used in financial analysis and bioinformatics and NSA cryptography, but it won't truly be mainstream until someone uses it to write a GTK+ app for downloading cat pictures < 1336546866 188398 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually ManateeLazyCat probably did that already < 1336546868 411044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure manatee can do that WHY THE FUCK AM I AWAKE < 1336546871 37881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap < 1336546873 108524 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1336546892 48766 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always thought haskell isn't and shouldn't be a "mainstream" language < 1336546895 755200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "Should I sleep." < 1336546896 37208 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I mentioned Algol 68 and then elliott mentioned it. < 1336546897 593527 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rather a language of many interesting niches < 1336546901 773855 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What time is it? < 1336546905 368003 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess elliott is reading my messages, just not replying. < 1336546905 711018 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when did you wake? < 1336546906 225679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time pikhq < 1336546908 698151 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for pikhq is Wed May 9 01:01:46 2012 < 1336546912 336969 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time elliott < 1336546912 983785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is 2012-05-09 07:01:52 +0000 < 1336546913 926812 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean. < 1336546918 128812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm in BST.) < 1336546924 733980 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did you wake? < 1336546932 759095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 19:00. :( < 1336546953 78500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seem to be late for wake up!! < 1336546961 802562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336546965 249828 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Only 12 hours awake, then? < 1336546982 175091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, that's too much arithmetic for how tired I am. < 1336547000 884987 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... You tired shouldn't be. < 1336547009 98810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I didn't sleep much. < 1336547031 274178 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey, i'm not *only* a cynic < 1336547036 37810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You aren't? < 1336547062 860585 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not *only* a cynic. A cynic with a super technical programming blog. < 1336547066 718601 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a difference! < 1336547066 736780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some other programming language not used anymore is BLISS (there is a lack of modern implementation); C became common. Although, I (and some others too) think some ideas of BLISS are better designed than C. (LLVM is also better designed than C) < 1336547068 112000 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336547091 511839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"LLVM is better than C" is my favourite zzo38 opinion. < 1336547116 643975 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends what you're using it for < 1336547123 28183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming. < 1336547125 749756 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc backend < 1336547131 447055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not just compiling to.) < 1336547143 148272 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you write actual code in C? < 1336547164 306076 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still think C is a pretty good language in its niche < 1336547176 263715 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its niche being "languages that are C"? < 1336547188 370685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY SHOULD I SLEEP < 1336547189 230249 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not "close to the machine" or "a portable assembler" < 1336547194 31431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq never even answered me. :( < 1336547194 894624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, LLVM does lack macros and so on; but if we can make something that has some features of BLISS and also all the LLVM commands, and then translates everything that isn't direct LLVM command into the LLVM commands, and then it will compile; would be good idea. < 1336547206 400697 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: who's the cynic now :( < 1336547206 915915 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I vote "not unless you're tired". < 1336547215 975720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's a portable PDP assembler, which doesn't contradict anything you said :P < 1336547224 970131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss real CISCs. (note: I've never used a real CISC) < 1336547229 799963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I am :'( < 1336547247 482865 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Should've voted: "iff you're tired" < 1336547252 116786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: C is, I suppose, pretty good language in its niche, but it has some bad designs < 1336547256 415948 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336547267 806865 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It continues to bother me that people think C is "close to the machine". It's not all that close to x86 ASM, which itself is pretty abstracted from the hardware. < 1336547269 88540 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also by "C" i mean C99 with a variety of GNU extensions < 1336547283 84824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So is that yes if you are tired? < 1336547287 269211 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes. < 1336547290 41258 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once it was easy to tell what C's bad designs were. < 1336547292 6806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's 8+8. < 1336547297 403408 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the idea that it's "portable assembler" makes for some astonishingly bad C. < 1336547297 721732 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I forbade de signs of the bad designs < 1336547300 407824 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 16 < 1336547300 929984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know, it's 17.) < 1336547301 790380 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well I think "close to the abstraction presented by the hardware" is a valid meaning of "close to the machine" < 1336547305 971189 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i try to reserve judgement < 1336547316 375324 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes many people are misinformed here, and it bothers me < 1336547319 891014 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I bet I'm more tired than you. < 1336547321 421536 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time shachaf < 1336547322 910955 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time elliott < 1336547323 518417 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is 2012-05-09 07:08:43 +0000 < 1336547327 8999 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Wed May 9 00:08:41 2012 < 1336547327 769318 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED < 1336547331 625034 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C isn't particularly close to the absraction presented by the hardware, either < 1336547332 687516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You would have fit in here great a few years ago when I was complaining about all the same things. < 1336547338 698252 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 'Cept it's not *that* close to x86. < 1336547342 320784 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a good deal closer than most languages people use < 1336547345 768785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should only take you a few months to decide to write an OS. < 1336547350 457113 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, memcpy is a single instruction. < 1336547359 246439 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C compilers do a lot of fancy non-local optimization < 1336547361 662939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then some bad things happen though, SORRY THAT'S FATE. < 1336547364 463598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a computer that can be programmed in Checkout < 1336547371 869577 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you were complaining about this before it was cool? < 1336547376 759512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :( < 1336547390 170557 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, strcpy, sorry. < 1336547405 496260 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: memcpy too, no? < 1336547405 702428 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't memcpy also? < 1336547413 970368 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, bleh. Right. < 1336547418 871860 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an instruction that decrements ecx and checks if it's 0 or something. < 1336547429 928009 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's also rep movs < 1336547432 209654 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s a Portal 2 sale. < 1336547441 289848 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hion < 1336547551 843660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The consensus is that I sleep, right? < 1336547553 170764 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336547571 689399 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336547577 395597 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Huh, Portal 2 supports user-made puzzles these days? < 1336547603 666534 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: As of, uh, today. < 1336547622 623258 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess strcpy is repne movsb < 1336547625 234876 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh. < 1336547637 532896 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rep ret < 1336547646 199459 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rep nop < 1336547649 854249 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All these great instructions. < 1336547662 82252 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <3 those instructions < 1336547665 249728 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, those have undefined behavior. < 1336547673 757227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, you're all useless. < 1336547682 435882 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm pretty sure an Intel and/or AMD manual defines the behaviors of those. < 1336547687 590945 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are particular chips which define both < 1336547687 762153 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 寝る方が良い < 1336547697 915496 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I want a disassembler that shows what each instruction actually does! < 1336547701 349755 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sweet jesus on a stick. < 1336547703 328826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to sleep better < 1336547707 576889 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :intel calls rep nop "pause" but it's encoded as rep nop < 1336547710 806380 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Apparently something like that, yes. < 1336547722 523887 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a spin loop hint < 1336547725 864364 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Intel manual has a pretty precise description of each instruction in sort-of pseudocode. < 1336547751 838740 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a lot of it could be cut out to fit the context (you know whether you're in long mode and so on). < 1336547753 897289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Ian#DEC_VAX < 1336547758 564514 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 日本語で寝られるの < 1336547761 41900 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would be a useful feature of a disassembler program. < 1336547763 422957 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does one exist? < 1336547777 22695 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "rep ret" is a workaround for a bug in some AMD branch predictors < 1336547787 98441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Timeline_of_esoteric_programming_languages#AS.2F400 < 1336547788 182283 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yay, I can read the first three characters of that! < 1336547791 788072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kmc might like those.) < 1336547792 133470 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the new advice is to use "ret 0" instead < 1336547798 545662 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I can read the first two and then make a heuristic guess at the third. < 1336547809 189288 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336547819 568194 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The heuristic guess is almost certainly right. :) < 1336547827 345721 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yep. < 1336547843 108066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self tomorrow: fix unsigned tempalte on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Turing-complete. < 1336547854 225380 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "で" mean? < 1336547858 57638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also correct myself wrt hosted C and CHAR_BIT. < 1336547859 969025 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a particle? What's a particle? < 1336547863 34649 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it mean "in"? < 1336547875 488841 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in "in Japanese"? < 1336547881 80337 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: In this context, yes. < 1336547895 594766 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To which question? < 1336547901 738398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to sleep assholes. < 1336547912 538773 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Actually, all the ones where "yes" is a sensible answer. < 1336547922 211966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All these assholes are so slept. < 1336547923 246126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336547932 676794 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"で" is a particle meaning something along the lines of "by means of"... < 1336547964 540687 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, is "ら" a ra? < 1336547968 613169 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336547974 613555 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird font. < 1336547986 439175 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sentence translates as "You can sleep in Japanese" < 1336547989 408809 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And れ is re. < 1336547994 443667 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1336548000 814565 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rareruno? < 1336548006 9445 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1336548009 347845 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that even mean? < 1336548017 510135 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nihongo de nerareru no" < 1336548033 685225 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That big complicated thing is just pronounced "ne"? < 1336548046 751121 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :japanese-language by-means-of sleep-able explanation < 1336548049 744126 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336548089 837699 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why not just write "ne"? < 1336548095 493538 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIDDLED YOU THERE, DIDN'T I < 1336548116 540289 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps, so that it can be understood < 1336548120 733040 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause that'd be ね, not 寝. < 1336548132 748521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why not just write "ne" < 1336548136 61801 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, so much harder to read. < 1336548147 943842 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goode pointe < 1336548165 461800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has nothing to do with how hard it is to read, but with how hard it is to understand, which is different. < 1336548172 577770 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :め looks too much like ぬ < 1336548188 3876 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, 中華人民民主主義共和国 is much nicer than ちゅうかじんみんみんしゅしゅぎきょうわこく. < 1336548208 594471 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that say? < 1336548217 646359 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Democratic People's Republic of China" < 1336548224 40066 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. < 1336548225 633780 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Longest all-kanji phrase I could pull out of my ass. < 1336548228 791295 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :中 < 1336548265 402314 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :中? < 1336548291 349226 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. China is the "middle country" donchano < 1336548314 525178 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they literally thought they were the center of everything so they called themselves that.) < 1336548343 384915 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out what 中 is. < 1336548345 473595 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336548356 924839 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without looking it up. Too easy, right? < 1336548365 374329 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: To be fair, everyone thought they were the center of everything. < 1336548374 893372 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a pity they were all wrong until America came along! < 1336548377 401314 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Middle", "center". < 1336548393 435504 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I look at it as mouth-thing + line-thing or something? < 1336548402 822005 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is how it's written, yes. < 1336548408 285559 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336548410 865632 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the line-thing? < 1336548416 466112 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a line. < 1336548422 58706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am even play mahjong. I know it means center, and in Japanese mahjong this tile is called "chun" < 1336548436 568567 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Single line going top-to-bottom. < 1336548453 576230 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write really fast it ends up looking a little bit like ゆ < 1336548497 565770 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1336548507 93190 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:23 < pikhq> I mean, 中華人民民主主義共和国 is much nicer than ちゅうかじんみんみんしゅしゅぎきょうわこく. < 1336548518 75785 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :華 looks like it has a bunch of things. < 1336548524 461578 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a rice-field-thing? < 1336548538 314442 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know. < 1336548551 937212 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... Weird. < 1336548560 638022 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's 華? < 1336548567 290529 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I ever see it outside of 中華. < 1336548580 812282 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pronounced how? < 1336548586 258245 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :か < 1336548591 498453 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even remember the semantics, cause it's basically only there. < 1336548593 959435 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean 中華 < 1336548598 320606 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ちゅうか < 1336548631 183935 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1336548642 191411 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :人 means "life" or "person" or something like that? < 1336548650 557234 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember. < 1336548656 166657 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Person". < 1336548668 11555 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :person or human < 1336548669 904809 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I did the wrong damned phrase. < 1336548683 151740 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only 中華人民共和国 < 1336548691 424073 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336548693 515784 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People's Republic of China". < 1336548698 945735 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not officially democratic. < 1336548717 867821 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, 民 < 1336548726 718571 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"trombone player"? < 1336548728 775997 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People", in the sense of "people's" < 1336548737 671588 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we already had "person". < 1336548755 986933 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1336548830 803298 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So person-people? < 1336548849 713703 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1336548867 145327 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :人民 is "people's", as used in the names of communist countries. < 1336548896 133287 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1336548902 346164 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What of 和? < 1336548914 82074 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like a thing-thing next to a mouth-thing. < 1336548914 796773 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"peaceful"-ish < 1336548940 209338 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :共和国 cooperative-peaceful-country ish = republic < 1336548954 65469 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :much of that stuff about the AS/400 seems decidedly not-stupid < 1336549053 945635 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strongly typed pointers, unified ram/disk address space, hardware garbage collection < 1336549057 91997 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these all sound great < 1336549122 123154 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also AIUI the instruction set is a virtual-ish thingy which the OS compiles to model-specific native instructions < 1336549137 666924 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AS/400 sounds fancy. < 1336549183 953255 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to go to sleep. < 1336549526 178358 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does. < 1336549645 957836 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-140-114.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336549803 59346 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-230-4.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336550000 139863 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336550028 853367 :TheConsultant!~Editor@41.160.19.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336550034 25423 :TheConsultant!~Editor@41.160.19.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336550130 456243 :TheConsultant!~Editor@41.160.19.147 PART :#esoteric < 1336550766 340630 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336551732 552519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336555175 465038 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1336558025 658276 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336558215 549939 :cheater!~cheater@g231032119.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336558215 568327 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336558504 667701 :davidwerecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336558662 579406 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the problem with doing all that in hardware is that you're stuck with it. < 1336558736 45592 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1336558748 559232 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a new idea! < 1336558752 43602 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we've seen many OSes and langs improve considerably especially because they've been designed for a comparably fairly minimal hardware platform < 1336558754 885802 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shubshub: do it < 1336558762 969393 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wanna hear about it? < 1336558772 124614 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i want to download an exe < 1336558779 3092 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no exe = i have no time for u < 1336558799 2787 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :j/k what's your idea? < 1336558810 259235 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea is to create a language built specifically to make games in batch < 1336558818 677273 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :batch? < 1336558827 923780 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically you have a script telling it what to d eg < 1336558828 135943 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1336558842 228237 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :move sprite to newpos < 1336558851 151729 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will move < 1336558870 480927 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its Geniusi thought it up in a split second < 1336558893 513414 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sprite do shoot enemy at position x y < 1336558917 435779 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1336558931 789922 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :if sprite do shoot enemy at x y results miss do sprite do shoot enemy at new position x y < 1336558961 444086 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its going to be so AWESOME! < 1336558976 688723 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall call it < 1336558990 238708 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :BatchMove < 1336559009 7967 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: well like i said the instruction set is a virtual-ish thingy which the OS compiles to model-specific native instructions < 1336559019 15948 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think you can use those native instructions too < 1336559050 215367 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you specify garbage collection instructions then in the worst case you implement them in software, as now < 1336559131 627884 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :game start with player at position x y and enemy at position x y and not win < 1336559162 815509 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway ima go work on this new language wish me luck < 1336559342 674811 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah but you also mentioned hardware features < 1336559347 230916 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hw gc.. < 1336559365 103763 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :were typed pointers a hw thing? < 1336559398 169250 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is probably hard to emulate without hardware support < 1336559410 168806 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, i've spent way too much time reading up on vintage op amps. < 1336559421 904263 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, why < 1336559423 973580 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you just have a software gc, no? < 1336559427 856409 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i am interested < 1336559436 451102 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm big on recording equipment and stuff < 1336559450 35221 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i hit a link about the jensen 990 randomly < 1336559458 910076 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i searched for that stuff i could find nothing < 1336559465 424514 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the web's full of that stuff < 1336559490 864543 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ls op\ amps/ -1A | wc -l < 1336559490 921436 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :66 < 1336559517 456771 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's mostly just info about 4 different op amps < 1336559528 708808 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that was my last 3 hours < 1336559558 48779 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :did u kno: the first op amps were just pcb's with components on 'em < 1336559580 497859 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336559586 632122 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they started potting that stuff in resin and calling it an "integrated circuit" < 1336559602 854681 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about discrete op amps is that they have amazing headroom < 1336559609 953449 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lots of current capability < 1336559619 887416 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they are really good for like, high-end mixers < 1336559662 750137 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get really low noise too < 1336559707 557962 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the meantime i ended up listening to biosphere - cirque and it totally put me in the zone gathering info about that stuff < 1336559720 718216 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy's music is fairly hypnotic < 1336559807 583407 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc, do you know of anything in linux that could slow down disk io considerably? < 1336559831 787659 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some sort of debug libs or a misconfiguration < 1336559899 288100 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've noticed for some time my pc's disk operation was very slow, but i thought it was just a bit older than usual, but now i started comparing that with network IO and it's much faster when i get data from the network directly, without hdd access < 1336559917 502998 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. browser using or not using a local squid instance < 1336559942 403692 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's expected that network IO to a good server over a fast pipe will be faster than a shitty local hard drive < 1336559943 456457 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :flash videos while it's buffering vs while it's done downloading (the former really ends up skipping around) < 1336559952 414174 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds severe though < 1336559965 912724 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/block_dump < 1336559967 924664 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well notice that just a pending download in youtube can slow things down < 1336559974 696504 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will start to spew block layer events to the system log < 1336559978 895182 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you see something in there < 1336559986 379555 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :misconfiguration of the block device can do it too < 1336559993 316697 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an old ubuntu < 1336559998 222634 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :check hdparm, maybe dma is disabled or something < 1336559999 256963 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i started with 8.something < 1336560003 446644 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will < 1336560006 50277 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boot a livecd and see if block performance gets better < 1336560013 786669 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a filemon for linux? < 1336560022 757626 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what filemon is < 1336560037 819520 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :filemon is a windows thing from sysinternals, shows you all file operations happening on your pc < 1336560043 483723 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :debugger < 1336560067 306717 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought maybe linux is doing something like that and reporting it to some api and hogging down because of this < 1336560098 691641 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to get all file events on linux < 1336560105 462350 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about some file events < 1336560106 96409 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get them for individual files/directories using inotify < 1336560107 651529 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or most file events < 1336560112 123358 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336560118 397710 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's some sort of inotify fuckup < 1336560118 914620 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also check iotop < 1336560124 642006 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see if some program is hogging the IO bandwidth < 1336560139 109022 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd know that, the hdds would be running constantly < 1336560140 881801 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not that < 1336560151 572995 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336560153 744218 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, every time there's file io it has a constant wait time < 1336560167 914162 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or constant cpu time < 1336560198 643315 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about IO scheduler settings < 1336560200 934723 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat /sys/class/block/sda/queue/scheduler < 1336560211 712408 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i think there are a bunch of tunables < 1336560215 678974 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know what to do with them < 1336560246 830802 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :example: in gnome press alt-f2 and you get a popup for running a program < 1336560258 159672 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i press alt-f2 and while i'm typing it tries to autocomplete or something < 1336560267 765819 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the window freezes for like half a second < 1336560295 487834 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :however if i quickly type, e.g. nm-applet, and press enter, then it closes the window immediately and starts the program < 1336560332 350800 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :while doing that i look at iotop but nothing conclusive happens < 1336560359 634740 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome-panel (which is what spawns the window) shows up at the top of iotop but for a split second and it doesn't bump any summaries < 1336560406 246624 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the last one was a lie, it does bump "total disk read" but only to like 800 K/s < 1336560429 101839 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try killing random parts of gnome until it stops < 1336560429 275572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that new blktrace thing for IO tracing. < 1336560501 402118 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :# hdparm -d /dev/sda4 < 1336560501 576957 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/sda4: < 1336560501 595170 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device < 1336560510 534022 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :# hdparm -d /dev/sda < 1336560510 589573 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/sda: < 1336560510 589762 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device < 1336560534 416382 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :manual says: -d get/set using_dma flag < 1336560550 309651 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1336560562 596036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hdparm -i" should show the mode it's using with a *. < 1336560594 967141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose using_dma is some sort of a specific thing for a specific case. < 1336560665 510555 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336560679 430553 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6 < 1336560766 580851 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hdparm -i shows me around 75 MB/s, that shouldn't be so bad then < 1336560778 292586 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it be that something in linux is eating cpu while i'm writing to disk? < 1336560812 465679 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using gvfs for some things, but of course not for the root (which is what would be written to and read from by all the cases i described) < 1336561014 133906 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's even something in gnome - do e.g. flash or firefox use some sort of gnome api for fs access? < 1336561065 287006 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flash would use firefox for fs access < 1336561071 878149 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think firefox uses gvfs but it's possible < 1336561140 338526 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-21-45.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Quit: R.I.P < 1336561241 797469 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the gvfs thing and the flash/firefox disk access thing were separate ideas < 1336561256 40265 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think firefox would be like.. specifically using some sort of gvfs api. < 1336561372 815677 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you said "some sort of gnome api" < 1336561379 490230 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you're right < 1336561472 228746 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :# cat /sys/class/block/sda/queue/scheduler < 1336561472 578730 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :noop deadline [cfq] < 1336561496 461557 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, cfq is the default and is usually sensible < 1336561518 615440 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hdparm -i shows me around 75 MB/s" < that should've been -t < 1336561547 617685 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the smallest turing-complete esolang? < 1336561554 181506 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by smallest i mean "least instructions" < 1336561574 225748 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one instruction < 1336561579 44605 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without production rules or i/o) < 1336561591 846419 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtract and branch if negative < 1336561658 889753 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Subleq < 1336561710 655820 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : try killing random parts of gnome until it stops < there's not much gnome to kill really, i've got gnome-panel, gdm-simple-slave, gnome-keyring-daemon, gnome-session, polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1, gnome-power-manager, gnome-screensaver, /usr/lib/gnome-disk-utility/gdu-notification-daemon, < 1336561766 123294 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why a disk utility needs a daemon is beyond me though < 1336562062 681937 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336562091 585571 :davidwerecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336562324 519188 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336562406 349286 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you use gnome 2? < 1336562429 846250 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm... not really sure < 1336562437 914495 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ubuntu are you on? < 1336562445 259112 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that's actually debian < 1336562449 70918 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :debian unstable < 1336562456 116537 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a gnome login session < 1336562461 58196 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my preferred amount of gnome is 0 < 1336562471 311334 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336562476 571887 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336562483 672360 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i like to use certain applications which in turn launch various of those gnome daemons < 1336562497 260789 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every so often I will get annoyed and try to disable most of them < 1336562497 950951 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i need you to be using gnome-panel though < 1336562508 90652 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336562512 669933 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no panel or status bar of any kind < 1336562517 713352 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i want someone to strace their gnome-panel < 1336562521 545294 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that i can compair < 1336562532 255966 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should ask #ubuntu < 1336562535 573737 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[troll suggestion] < 1336562544 489420 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they use gnome 3 < 1336562546 556066 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is inferior < 1336562568 345657 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all of them do < 1336562587 921410 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru troll < 1336562601 545308 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.04 LTS desktop is still supported < 1336562601 889289 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!trollcoins kmc +20 < 1336562609 987083 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was the most recent LTS until like last week < 1336562617 237239 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only gets strong arm support < 1336562630 581444 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know what i mean < 1336562633 672045 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336562649 14462 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda like those parents that beat their children because they "love them" < 1336562675 251511 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.04 is that kind of abuse case i guess < 1336562683 29523 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right then < 1336562695 655458 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll troll #gnome < 1336562869 430960 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: what should i do next for mosh < 1336562997 9957 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it use 1 port < 1336563021 847070 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: 32 bit color < 1336563127 359185 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add an audio player < 1336563181 817494 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :troll suggestion: hidden cmdline switch that engages a plasma visual < 1336563302 916235 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336563339 359124 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw 32-bit color < 1336563344 404667 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :double-precision HDR floating point < 1336563453 169610 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1336563583 611928 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336563728 251669 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336563728 980276 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336564172 345400 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336564340 527478 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336564595 421681 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336564721 232668 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336566988 62121 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336568904 697434 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-148-81.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336568904 985541 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336568930 725886 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-140-114.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336568934 6765 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! Got my system unfucked. ^_^ < 1336569153 789756 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the fuckage? < 1336569225 572943 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: /sbin/init was broken < 1336569303 892582 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll do it < 1336569310 904199 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happens < 1336569319 136983 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it happen? < 1336569332 153697 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1336569336 508743 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336569347 852675 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once fixed a server that had an error in a shellscript inside initrd < 1336569356 137205 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or well, busybox itself didn't quite run correctly < 1336569359 49806 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird, weird boot failures. < 1336569411 323883 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: /sbin/init was symlink to broken busybox which got broken because power cable fell out of my computer's power socket when I was updating < 1336569473 13334 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.146 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336569533 497049 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1336569542 682682 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...my thing had somehow gotten a busybox that wouldn't work correctly in an early boot environment < 1336569555 978482 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wanted procfs to be mounted to work correctly < 1336569568 748614 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which was one of the things the shellscript it was supposed to run was supposed to do. < 1336569575 291355 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it didn't quite work. < 1336569675 969936 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.146 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336569929 883798 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of curiosity, which distros were the two of you using < 1336570945 902148 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336571677 423581 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336571677 458767 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336571677 477053 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336571749 284147 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arch Gentoo < 1336571865 464814 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336572236 995594 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336572889 185895 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336573750 101072 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336575488 705428 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-129.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336575493 35954 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-148-81.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336576439 405631 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-147.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336576448 269315 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-129.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336577140 37927 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336577159 673521 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey... I have an idea for an esolang < 1336577193 608655 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't have a wiki account :( < 1336577214 209688 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone create it for me? < 1336577219 626585 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I' < 1336577228 692770 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give the info. < 1336577582 842945 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PART :#esoteric < 1336577741 48063 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336577765 289079 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I left by accident. < 1336577778 4063 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, i'm leaving anyway. < 1336577791 662731 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone have a BF quine? < 1336577801 767199 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PART #esoteric :"BF quine?" < 1336578423 567608 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell esolang_1234 1) You don't need an account on the wiki to make a page, anonymous editing is allowed. 2) There are no sensitive credentials required to create an account, why not just make one? < 1336578423 713656 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336578489 627481 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be esolangs named BF and Brainf*ck and Brainf**k, each vastly different from Brainfuck < 1336578542 100650 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF is Befunge ;) < 1336578625 385987 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1336578726 584561 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336579183 465713 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if multitasking increases cases of internet addiction. as drowning in browser tabs can tell us, when men (i simply do not know about women) have the opportunity to multitask they create for themselves task-debt < 1336579263 527367 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreover that one of the fundamental differences between how we do things with a computer and without is probably the multitasking < 1336579292 153978 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how you assume this is gender dimorphic for no reason < 1336579311 361748 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "like" i mean "kill all humans" < 1336579322 178398 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reason = a lifetime of growing up being told women are better at multitasking < 1336579362 315281 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the task thing, im wrong about that too of course since multi tasking is about cpu time more than user interface time < 1336579403 875579 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe that xerox didn't get a chance to finish these GUI ideas before they got rushed out the gate by apple/microsoft < 1336579549 449102 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336579721 134543 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336579729 785140 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*&^&*$$^%$%^$^% < 1336579754 186436 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336579782 611591 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336579853 145395 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336579951 268415 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like you're multitasking itidus21 < 1336580010 164401 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336580414 785245 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1336580818 404885 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only 3-way < 1336580843 17905 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65.183.136.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336581033 514684 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1336581086 368894 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my concern is not so much with process or application multitasking, but specifically user interface multitasking < 1336581183 168510 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it has it's uses, theres probably better ways it could be done.. i guess unix/linux command line users have already known this a long time < 1336581263 172149 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like.. in windows.. i often find myself opening a notepad to transfer a piece of text between two apps < 1336581298 249939 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but somehow i imagine on a command line theres just "better" ways such needs are met < 1336581349 390797 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and often it's for formatting... like to remove linebreaks when posting in irc. < 1336581475 133205 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make matters worse, with regard to the broswer, each tab having it's own history.. there should really be a tree to map those links < 1336581501 104867 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of an array of tab histories < 1336581594 387231 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336581617 249903 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, i don't think it is of much benefit for me to start doing 30 things with computer before i have finished the first 1 < 1336581692 154 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should probably start by making sure it's of benefit for you to do anything at all < 1336581716 928939 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have decided that it's better for me to do nothing at all, for example) < 1336581801 981614 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think anyone else here has any such problem.. so yeah.. if anyone wants to buy deranged ranting services.. you know where to call < 1336581821 96580 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would i pay when i get it for free? < 1336581875 561508 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even snake venom is useful for developing antivenom < 1336581914 632801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336581920 337439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:35:54: much of that stuff about the AS/400 seems decidedly not-stupid < 1336581942 445556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but I suspect it'd have been doomed to slowness with the rest of the "true" CISCs < 1336581961 664797 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noes, did I miss a discussion about mainframes? < 1336581973 62577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1336582126 686054 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1336582138 482970 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336582218 984057 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i will consider that. (those 2 posts) is as good as anything the chinese have ever written. < 1336582251 493900 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336582271 626642 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 2 lines he put before elliott arrived < 1336582278 625493 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the chinese < 1336582304 694465 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it sounds like the kind of thing they would say in their ancient philosophies < 1336582322 21664 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i didnt word this well < 1336582340 516617 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i actually think the chinese elucidated some of the most concise and minimialist philosophical advice < 1336582365 224167 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :A student asked Master Yun-Men (A.D. 949) "Not even a thought has arisen; is there still a sin or not?" Master replied, "Mount Sumeru!" < 1336582367 125909 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1336582386 862922 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: stuff like that is what they say in "the ancient philosophies" < 1336582407 426298 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmpf < 1336582408 810798 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koan < 1336582423 528823 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh koans. < 1336582427 511575 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two hands clap and there is a sound. What is the sound of one hand? < 1336582433 50653 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive not really looked into them < 1336582438 360902 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how to change keyboard config for linux virtual consoles < 1336582446 689199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:16:51: Lumpio-: /sbin/init was symlink to broken busybox which got broken because power cable fell out of my computer's power socket when I was updating < 1336582452 392133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is why package managers need atomic updates < 1336582454 783872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*cough* nix) < 1336582488 664285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:25:59: Hey... I have an idea for an esolang < 1336582488 837218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:26:33: but I don't have a wiki account :( < 1336582488 855625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:26:54: Can someone create it for me? < 1336582488 855790 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was trying to remember if Debian did this right or if I've just never interrupted an upgrade this way < 1336582490 219232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:26:59: I' < 1336582492 292710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:27:08: I'll give the info. < 1336582493 531782 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: How would that have helped? the binary itself was corrupted < 1336582494 222012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336582498 364107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: debian doesn't do it right in the general case < 1336582507 864527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: because the power would have cut before the binary would be swapped < 1336582513 739042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would happen at the very end of the update process, atomically < 1336582531 197645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but it might have some special hacks for important packages, dunno < 1336582542 942548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of any package manager than Nix that can update more than one package atomically < 1336582624 460340 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1336582649 256706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: like two hands clapping but half as loud < 1336582650 983177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's only one < 1336582653 400375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope that helps < 1336582659 468356 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks < 1336582677 808663 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you cracked the code < 1336582684 893135 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to get you on the phone to the Pope of China immediately < 1336582691 514879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :buddhism is over < 1336582694 991488 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336582697 656608 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate buddha < 1336582710 179732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly hindus and their koans < 1336582718 309416 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice cream koan < 1336582739 581579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it ko-AN? < 1336582776 76608 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it? < 1336582782 827906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "cone" isn't pronounced ko-AN. < 1336582792 321931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's COH-nn or something. < 1336582808 976913 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's pronounced ko-ahn. That's not really enough to ruin the pun. < 1336582827 124561 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good pun is impossible to ruin < 1336582853 543458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puin. < 1336582909 136373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shoe-in for a puin. < 1336582984 189069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336583013 973663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Where's all the economy giraffes? < 1336583035 920861 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No soap, radio! < 1336583059 933357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How dare you. < 1336583087 915180 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no soup, no radish < 1336583347 61315 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :radish sort < 1336583390 195477 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bobble sort < 1336584779 824014 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bubble bobble sort < 1336584786 505503 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Best sort) < 1336584940 40274 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already implied that Gregor < 1336584943 863534 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mensch Gregor < 1336585367 446178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: look at this great haskell question http://stackoverflow.com/revisions/10521189/1 < 1336585440 474965 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i resist < 1336585465 386198 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've trolled newbies a million times < 1336585480 804271 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't go for easy things like that any more < 1336585625 340187 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nowhere is it advertised as a haskell question < 1336585630 348786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1336585632 765024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a look at the bottom < 1336585640 187969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tagged it [haskell] < 1336585658 544064 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :edited one minute ago by don stewart < 1336585659 412459 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336585712 365475 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that it allows the input file to inject arbitrary code < 1336585714 957708 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he's back from his hiatus < 1336585720 841263 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :when are you back from your hiatus kmc < 1336585728 462270 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1336585738 877061 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arbitrary code injection is par for the course in C hacks < 1336585747 860944 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it takes some skill to get it in Python hacks < 1336585783 990807 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Convert it to a while loop. You are hitting recursion limits, basically, so if you remove the recursion, your problem should go away" < 1336585946 87910 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336586016 275997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's python for you < 1336586034 108137 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336586034 413452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1336586037 696699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't actually read the code < 1336586039 597485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336586049 100727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome rszeno < 1336586057 810222 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336586062 228909 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336586093 731 :qfr!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf JOIN :#esoteric < 1336586113 165792 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you elliot, alredy read it, this is why i'm here < 1336586209 674960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1336586283 876630 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-151-126.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336586295 278266 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-151-126.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellooooooo! < 1336586335 564567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say the free category is not a forward category transformer any more than the free monoid is a forward monoid transformer, but both are valid backward transformers. < 1336586349 245116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1336586388 982745 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-151-126.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category transformers: monads in disguise < 1336586391 403224 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336586436 301368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: No, I mean functors, where it is a general functor which can act on any category to a new one, instead of a normal functor which is only from one category to another < 1336586465 683302 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-151-126.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I'm still less than a novice at category theory. I was making a Transformers pun < 1336586483 472373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The free monad is also a backward monad transformer, not a forward one) < 1336586552 408782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Then learn, from Wikipedia and so on < 1336586692 890456 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336586900 915497 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-151-126.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, want to learn category theory with me? < 1336586926 833950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336586935 304263 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not a good time considering i keep having connection dropouts < 1336586946 251246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stope < 1336586948 184570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tope < 1336586949 562131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :topee < 1336586951 858574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :opee < 1336586955 657256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :opeee < 1336586957 42585 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336586958 595135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :peee < 1336586959 462158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :peeee < 1336586961 890159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeee < 1336586963 959528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeees < 1336586967 433883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eees < 1336586968 460342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeest < 1336586970 730597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eest < 1336586972 286949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eesto < 1336586975 503952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esto < 1336586976 711684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :estop < 1336586977 748510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1336587019 416852 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must say i have recently seen videos advising people about the difficulty of getting a math phd.. and i am probably more out of my ballpark than i realize < 1336587034 642622 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though, category theory is 2 innocent words.. both of which i already feel familiar with < 1336587066 626902 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-151-126.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words mean little, they only work in combination < 1336587068 947422 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :category being.. lets say.. horror movies.. versus romance movies.. theory being < 1336587110 100784 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for people like me it's an imagined explanation for something... more formally it means something more formal < 1336587174 188924 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336587196 580456 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-151-126.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336587218 867775 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume (wrongly) that all i need to know about category theory could be summarized in 2 - 3 neat paragraphs written in simple english. < 1336587232 513041 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/♦ dafuk < 1336587256 140008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:♦ < 1336587297 971192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't want a confusing page that breaks the site layout like that, bring it up on the talk page :P < 1336587384 318622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: If you think so, then see if the Simple English Wikipedia has such an article < 1336587391 79220 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-151-126.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336587397 109727 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-151-126.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336587397 280797 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1336587407 307467 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wishfully think so < 1336587419 936613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hgfrtyuiolpo < 1336587425 665028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then look at the normal Wikipedia < 1336587451 419256 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably couldn't learn it in 5 years < 1336587510 137991 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent tested my intellect.. i don't know in practice what i am capable of or not < 1336587522 604074 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then.. < 1336587538 575821 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ability to overcome laziness certainly must help a lot.. and easily discountable < 1336587651 939052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simply, a category consists of a set of objects, and morphisms, each of which has a source and target. If you have a morphism with source A and target B, and another with source B and target C, they can be composed, and composition is associative. There is also an identity morphism for each object, with the source and target both that object. < 1336587679 878241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what it is. Is this OK? < 1336587697 38038 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will shut me up :D < 1336587704 120600 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1336587877 753256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that was possible. < 1336587901 766313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:24 I have to login there at mantis main_page. My online gaming account does not seem to qualify for this < 1336588274 342274 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :remotely rebooting machine is a bit strange experience < 1336588309 782056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, pyralspite finally died. < 1336588324 460069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least, it doesn't respond to pings. < 1336588355 601201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ieMS weird < 1336588786 20194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like Haskell's deleteBy function; whose idea was that? I have replaced them by: deleteF :: MonadLogic m => (x -> Bool) -> m x -> m x; < 1336588855 23138 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: is up and running but reject icmp < 1336588859 892925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: congrats, you have replaced deleteBy with filter . (not .) < 1336588886 9790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: strange. its httpd is dead too. it's a VPS, so I guess the machine itself is down but their routing is doing something funny < 1336588894 475236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll probably disappear soon < 1336588896 202684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, it only delete the first one!! < 1336588903 166514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh < 1336588938 608774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is what the MonadLogic constraint is for, so that you can tell which one is first; if you don't care then you use MonadPlus, which is what my version of filter uses) < 1336588988 863421 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's hackin' < 1336589017 217484 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336589355 85210 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-97-151-126.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336589356 812847 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336589528 433803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Hey, remind me to ask Graue to redirect esoteric.voxelperfect.net/forum/* to the corresponding esolangs.org archive. < 1336589567 225717 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i thought of your brain feedback device when i saw: http://www.valkee.com/uk/science.html < 1336589719 741363 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain feedback.. well i certainly have some views about such things which would not sit well < 1336589743 742486 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: category theory isn't really a very active field afaik < 1336589745 930103 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but naturally that means i am going to go ahead < 1336589759 238912 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(think I (are s-expressions (pretty easy to understand))) < 1336589821 819854 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the slowness of the muscles of the fingers, and of the eyes scanning text, etc.. provides a buffer to prevent humans being overworked < 1336589844 339913 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but.. if the brain is reached directly bypassing the rest.. then the buffer is in danger < 1336589863 192332 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: However, category theory can make a lot of things! (Including, category with one object for a monoid, a thin category of a partial ordering (since they have the same laws), etc) < 1336589866 799824 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: well you've seen all you need to know about categories now, so let's do number theory. 0 is a number and if n is a number then S(n) is a number. < 1336589876 679761 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the work required will expand to meet the labour available, and everyone will basically be a lot sadder for it < 1336589941 248131 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm too busy trying not to fall asleep < 1336590000 623029 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in all this, the whole concept of work as being intended to make life easier for humans in general (is this ever actually true?) will be lost.. further removed from potential utopia < 1336590041 506443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: rip < 1336590049 277647 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i didn't say i read what zzo said >:) < 1336590126 886562 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: for me at least, category theory is most useful in that you can describe certain ubiquitous phenomena with universal properties. because that is nice. < 1336590170 107123 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk-- < 1336590194 846700 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't need to say that.. sorry < 1336590296 367346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yes, that is one of the things it does. But it also does a large number of other things. < 1336590407 958959 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the fact that groups, monoids and partial orders can be thought of as categories is very useful for the common working mathematician. < 1336590447 515113 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336590501 502652 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"itidus20 and in all this, the whole concept of work as being intended to make life easier for humans in general (is this ever actually true?)..." it is true that work makes life easier for people, yes. < 1336590525 273558 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if no one worked, there would be nothing to eat. < 1336590549 486003 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1336590569 876257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi esolang_1234 < 1336590574 236128 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1336590574 478210 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336590593 166763 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: btw disclaimer: it is possible that you know more about category theory than me, since i don't know anything about it. < 1336590607 435330 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Ok Gregor. < 1336590611 486433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: I saw your messages in the logs; you can edit the wiki anonymously, you just have to fill out a CAPTCHA < 1336590623 405564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the registration process is simple (it doesn't require an email or anything) < 1336590627 975746 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :with category theory, i feel i have to mention this fact, since in all other branches of mathematics, none of you ever compare to my divine excellence. < 1336590633 274068 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I really * Ack(4,3) don't like giving my ip address to the public. < 1336590643 833661 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is just me in a disguise < 1336590647 257158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :register an account, then; that doesn't expose your IP to anyone but administrators < 1336590658 918006 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't like registering :( < 1336590665 405898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a username and password :p < 1336590667 490148 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. I don't know why. < 1336590674 567975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: but uh < 1336590676 454400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hate to break it to you but < 1336590679 921531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:07 esolang_1234 has joined (40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125) < 1336590683 802671 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, i want to edit your website but i am unwilling to do it in any of the supported ways < 1336590686 123665 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1336590692 461384 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so plz accommodate me specially < 1336590699 617652 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as many people read the logs, though. < 1336590704 454734 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I think... < 1336590714 775151 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :could someone please put that ip on the front page < 1336590724 635474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few people read the logs regularly... probably slightly less than read recentchanges < 1336590728 781285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: don't do that < 1336590730 321676 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: anyway i'm like you, i understand. < 1336590734 311140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll hide the revision if anyone does < 1336590734 611252 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1336590747 237533 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me years to make an account, and i don't like using it < 1336590749 183775 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, I don't have experience editting. < 1336590767 270104 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that reminds me < 1336590780 178650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: a few of the users (mostly me and oerjan) clean up pages formatting-wise after they're created < 1336590782 253617 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need to define Dilston < 1336590797 171578 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what's dilston? < 1336590805 85498 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm at school, and esolangs.org is blocked < 1336590808 382995 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a hamlet to the East of Hexham < 1336590813 981804 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suprising, this isn't. < 1336590814 241445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're blocked from schools? :D < 1336590817 347144 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: don't do what btw, say things like that or actually do it? < 1336590819 536991 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki is < 1336590820 137370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it block us as? < 1336590826 202300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: don't put the IP on the main page < 1336590828 501099 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me check. < 1336590839 757670 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unknown" < 1336590845 34168 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you think i know how to do that? :D < 1336590845 890028 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, also a future esolang that can only be Turing complete if the collatz conjecture is false < 1336590849 512914 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conwaylife.com is also blocked. < 1336590851 288525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( lame, they couldn't even give us a proper reason < 1336590856 637333 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234, email of the people blocking? < 1336590858 711919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet they just block all wikis or someting < 1336590860 561081 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do that for almost everything. < 1336590866 837736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336590879 117619 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello ais523 < 1336590880 356908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1336590899 105864 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ais523 < 1336590899 733704 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1336590909 265352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hanging < 1336590910 556704 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's all because brainfuck isn't censored. < 1336590910 818620 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234, esolangs.org is blocked, but IRC isn't!? < 1336590914 792548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi people who said hi to me < 1336590921 185833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone else < 1336590922 81575 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1336590930 762122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i'll move the page to b****fuck :) < 1336590943 738563 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, then i'm sure everything will be fine < 1336590948 586221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what about the people who neither said hi to you nor didn't? < 1336590955 585470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm < 1336590956 586867 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yeah. < 1336590963 534878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you phrased it in such a way as to avoid the excluded middle < 1336590963 880717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pah < 1336590970 450988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, hmm < 1336590970 785030 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was reading up on ordinals today < 1336590975 847404 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shit is fucked up < 1336590977 508664 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234, weird < 1336590977 551612 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1336590983 558896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could say that there could be elements of S in neither S nor S - T < 1336590989 260352 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336590993 406572 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234, can you upload a screenshot of the "this page is blocked" page? < 1336590996 986652 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was like o__o the whole time < 1336591002 571040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it'll probably be a boring standard thing < 1336591008 281553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt anyone's gone out of their way to block esolangs.org specifically < 1336591012 965934 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, at least there may be an email < 1336591014 214523 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by that i mean i felt like an inverse skateboard < 1336591016 423461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not exactly a massively popular timewasting site... < 1336591020 110803 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it was so absurd < 1336591021 269463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: they probably consider the block valid < 1336591034 487654 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No, I don't use file uploading things. < 1336591056 601154 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234, does the block page list an email address? < 1336591070 251136 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336591076 726637 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I don't think so < 1336591093 3888 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember once the recent pages page of the wiki was blocked in my school < 1336591096 179436 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :proxy or firewall? < 1336591096 626753 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For gambling reasons < 1336591104 946861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do a lot of gambling on Esolang. < 1336591113 772547 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff508/Taneb/ohno.png < 1336591117 925054 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good times < 1336591123 240274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you call the number? < 1336591141 940403 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the office was closed < 1336591142 287661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, remember when the c in Special:Recentchanges was lowercase? < 1336591142 459716 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i bet you $50 the next esolang is a brainfuck derivative" < 1336591150 598187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good times. < 1336591213 266305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Have you been sending me /msgs? < 1336591225 385817 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what properties would a language need so that the cost of execution of a program can be calculated < 1336591229 267929 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :was esolang_1234 going to up a lang or what was this about, i haven't really been reading any of the lines? < 1336591234 314080 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :total cost < 1336591245 691364 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of. < 1336591257 120437 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was based on wires and logic gates. < 1336591261 75254 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now don't take my idea. < 1336591273 719271 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234, been done at least twice? < 1336591275 64424 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336591303 251138 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: three times at leadt < 1336591306 288226 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "don't take my idea" imply "and that's it", because it sounds like it < 1336591319 51660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: but that's what one of My Name is Johny, What the F**K?'s designs was basde on too! < 1336591323 719740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to check out WireWorld, btw < 1336591323 875140 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't think so. < 1336591331 843462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we don't have an article on; what an injustice < 1336591347 773189 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Sir._Cut for one < 1336591348 271903 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you have a CRAZY twist < 1336591351 922499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Noit_o%27_mnain_worb too, perhaps < 1336591354 720288 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your language have ordinals < 1336591381 601768 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, mines more like (-1,-1)Input (0,0)Xor (1,1)Out (-1,-1)>(0,0) (0,0)>(1,1) < 1336591386 861011 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1336591390 705972 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change the Xor to not < 1336591397 553356 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finished Portal 1. It was very good but quite short. < 1336591409 256612 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that would be a sort of bitinvertercat < 1336591484 652137 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1336591513 50318 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basicly, signals travel on wires, and get input at STDin and output at SDTout < 1336591519 78850 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*STD < 1336591576 835519 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not=If no sig, sig Or=If at least one sig, sig And=If all possible sigs, sig (like vNCA) Xor=If sum of sigs is odd, sig < 1336591617 839310 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i got it < 1336591623 111372 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably TC < 1336591644 257938 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you make a page for it, (IDK if you don't) can you name it LogicWire? < 1336591646 215614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, no. < 1336591661 322757 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol, like anyone would want to make a page for it. < 1336591695 66736 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do you know about logical circuits? < 1336591710 977115 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much. Just Xor, and, flipflop... < 1336591713 552729 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: why do you think it is TC? < 1336591716 872902 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idk < 1336591722 575969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: does it have any kind of looping? < 1336591723 298278 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random thought. < 1336591728 188952 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip flop is already something < 1336591730 350348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you write a program that runs forever, for instance? < 1336591738 632810 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each sig affects the logic gates it points too. < 1336591741 115800 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esola < 1336591742 238582 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: < 1336591745 734781 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336591754 696866 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's a concept of time, then this is probably tc < 1336591769 532211 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make a loop with Or gates, and connect one of the wires to STDout. < 1336591775 986174 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the sense that a periodic infinite configuration can do arbitrary computation < 1336591776 205827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336591783 74409 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: goodnight stupid sleep cycles < 1336591787 217312 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: is is possible to use unlimited amount of memory < 1336591794 649638 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be. < 1336591799 951117 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336591827 446989 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess you should be able to define unlimited wires. < 1336591850 868483 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0,0)Xor (0,1)And... (0,2)>(3,5)Sig < 1336591856 759409 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so on. < 1336591912 106853 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess (x,y) defines a gate at x,y < 1336591917 57040 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: unlimited as in unbouded storage machine's tape, not as in LBA's tape < 1336591925 8571 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336591929 675157 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hadn't thought about that :( < 1336591937 667603 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, finite state automaton? < 1336591972 775925 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: seems like it < 1336592023 326970 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you allow a way to describe infinite configurations, this will be more interesting though. < 1336592038 364867 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... Possible. < 1336592046 741640 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Crowd of people gathered on a street to watch two criminals being hanged to death, which was like the 19th century equivalent of a reality show (but somehow more tasteful)." < 1336592060 362416 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really something that's been explored much < 1336592072 332607 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a "Copy (x,y)...(x,y)>(a,b) 15 Units" < 1336592088 300131 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you might be able to make a TC < 1336592095 383691 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean TM :P < 1336592096 717392 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean at runtime? < 1336592145 7727 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. I never thought this would be so confusing. Well, I guess it doesn't have to be TC < 1336592176 316602 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :see if, once the program has been written, there's a limit on the amount of states where it can be during the run of the program, then you cannot have TCness with most definitions. < 1336592176 989789 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And making a copy command will make the interpreter solve the halting problem. < 1336592241 743496 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, makeing a build "gate" might make it TC, but it would be TC (too complicated). < 1336592279 926284 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you can bound the maximal number of states the program can use before you start running it, then you can, algorithmically, decide whether it halts or not (or whether it will behave in a certain way) < 1336592307 84454 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really get what you're saying < 1336592315 414205 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would the interpreter need to solve the halting problem? < 1336592318 843786 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: how does adding copy command make interpreter solve halting problem? < 1336592362 682022 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK. I was thinking about mutiple TMs interacting. < 1336592389 516843 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i was thinking about butterflies when i wrote mine < 1336592407 61445 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Maybe make a butterfly sim program? < 1336592411 948483 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1336592421 76630 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are very pretty < 1336592430 100373 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "LogicWire" isn't TC, so its probably not possible. < 1336592459 617719 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you might not be able to see them. Remember the first GoL metacell? < 1336592474 927614 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what logicwire is < 1336592486 207445 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :might not be able to see what? < 1336592490 893702 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My hypothetical lang. < 1336592494 878344 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember _a_ gol metacell < 1336592504 910154 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, i remember that one exists < 1336592506 668651 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1336592508 244498 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336592515 468171 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conwaylife.com is blocked, so I can't link it :( < 1336592532 615274 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I have to leave in a few minutes. < 1336592533 62423 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just did < 1336592544 554502 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that, the actual page in the wiki :P < 1336592598 101766 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right, i found it < 1336592611 765421 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know about this wiki, should probably look at it :D < 1336592621 408005 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :500x500 metacell or something < 1336592623 766321 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336592655 510193 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conwaylife.com/wiki/Topology okay this wiki sucks < 1336592656 200351 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only indicator is a block or something. < 1336592672 313825 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(topology is the main tool in the study of cellular automata) < 1336592696 554567 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's not even about the topology that's used < 1336592700 455486 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have to leave. < 1336592704 408998 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336592707 435851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: lifewiki is mainly focused on documenting the patterns < 1336592708 604680 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*byes < 1336592717 781482 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i guessed < 1336592728 379772 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :still worth taking a glance at < 1336592731 733865 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like patterns < 1336592775 614698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Did you see http://conwaylife.com/wiki/Gemini when it came out? < 1336592777 136209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite impressive. < 1336592787 546536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a replicator-based spaceship. < 1336592803 807250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The first replicating pattern constructed; it replicates itself and then deletes the praent.) < 1336592805 148712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*parent < 1336592821 329871 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: still, having a topology page like that is like if conservapedia had a page on god that said "God is a concept in theoretical religion theory." < 1336592836 207465 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :except topology is so much better than god < 1336592851 355948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"God is the sovereign creator and eternal ruler of all things and beings that exist, whether in the physical universe or in the spiritual realm (Heaven). Not only is God the creator and ruler of the things and beings within those two realms, but he is also the creator of the realms themselves. God created the physical universe, and before he acted in this creation, the universe did not exist. Likewise God did with the spiritual realm. < 1336592851 374095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1336592853 949665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Conservapedia. < 1336592878 923335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thonservapedia. < 1336592893 578023 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well pretty much what you expected, no? < 1336592951 480577 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336592970 407961 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that paragraph reads like legal boilerplate < 1336593027 659639 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. I still can't believe conservapedia is not a joke < 1336593042 765695 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah unlike those many other paragraphs on god that mean something < 1336593045 676206 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume at least large parts of it are < 1336593062 84708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are really only about six serious editors of Conservapedia. < 1336593084 765155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're all sufficiently mad that it's highly likely they consider many satirical edits legitimate. < 1336593100 19024 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.6902 have you seen this < 1336593102 575295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they still have the threat to sue anyone who vandalises it? < 1336593107 408540 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought a lot of it was written by homeschooled christian kids < 1336593112 74057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think so, yes. < 1336593121 38690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know Conservapedia disproved relativity as liberal? < 1336593126 1267 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: lolwut < 1336593126 19474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/E%3Dmc² < 1336593128 941709 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love arxiv so much < 1336593134 108536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :E=mc² is a meaningless, almost nonsensical, statement that purports to relate all matter to light.[1] In fact, no theory has successfully unified the laws governing mass (i.e., gravity) with the laws governing light (i.e., electromagnetism), and numerous attempts to derive E=mc² in general from first principles have failed.[2] Political pressure, however, has since made it impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in science < 1336593134 127041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : to even question the validity of this nonsensical equation. Simply put, E=mc² is liberal claptrap[3] . < 1336593139 483482 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: relativity = moral relativsm < 1336593142 101449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's not trolling, most of that was actually written by Schlafly.) < 1336593149 876351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It continues: "Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge predicts that a unified theory of all the laws of physics is impossible, because light and matter were created at different times, in different ways, as described in the Book of Genesis." < 1336593151 81121 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the author is not a crackpot btw < 1336593159 369239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See also: http://conservapedia.com/Counterexamples_to_Relativity < 1336593170 445713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Genesis 1:6-8, we are told that one of God's first creations was a firmament in the heavens. This likely refers to the creation of the luminiferous aether." < 1336593208 552134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "Comments: Please note that the publication date is April 1st 2012" < 1336593220 650332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if arxiv adds that automatically. < 1336593255 743933 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also see keywords. < 1336593267 823679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, Conservapedia would be much less entertaining if it was just Fox News: the wiki. < 1336593274 802396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's far worse than that in reality. < 1336593277 825363 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's very tastefully done, i liked it < 1336593289 482739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Which keywords? < 1336593291 552902 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also read conservapedia's articles on evolution, atheism and socialism < 1336593296 479802 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the pdf < 1336593320 64758 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the god article < 1336593343 661126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: No, those are all the boring, tame stuff. < 1336593399 768614 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it at least define atheist as someone who worships the devil < 1336593446 625381 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the demon god Atheor < 1336593447 153629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Atheism, as defined by the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, the Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy, and other philosophy reference works, is the denial of the existence of God.[2][3][4]" *yawn* < 1336593459 769660 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I think quoting conservapedia is poor form < 1336593464 913353 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trolling by proxy < 1336593465 115472 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're being wrong wrong. < 1336593495 973688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Most trolls are not nearly as entertaining as Conservapedia. < 1336593508 799939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially IRC trolls. I'm upping the standards! < 1336593646 898192 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing with ordinals feels so wrong... and yet somehow so, so right. < 1336593672 415154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_obesity Okay, I'll give them credit for this title. < 1336593683 654091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, it's 49 sections long. < 1336593683 961007 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1336593695 104234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stephen Fry is a homosexual and an atheist." Good caption. < 1336593764 293990 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like an outlier < 1336593781 247232 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't quite understand their point, though < 1336593796 816549 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:SIR_448_at_Great_Kills_Station.jpg&oldid=61691747 < 1336593815 192388 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Their irrational closed-mindedness against the Bible obstructs the advancement of science ." < 1336593826 720944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :D < 1336593841 316502 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"accurate but does not describe picture" < 1336593879 557638 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/Biblical_Scientific_Foreknowledge < 1336594196 371723 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/Feminist "often condemn the God-Given order of gender roles, as laid out in the Holy Bible" :D < 1336594264 746265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/Essay:_Penn_Jillette%27s_walrus_slide_vs._thin_Indian_Christian_lady_dancers Nobody tell me what this article is about, I want to enjoy it solely based on the title. < 1336594320 868610 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit these guys are retardedaiosdjfoasdjfoasdjfklasdjl;f < 1336594326 266959 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will explode. < 1336594344 674044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336594364 732870 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike atheists, Christians have a great many songs including dance music. < 1336594445 753983 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay the walrus side article is perhaps the most insane thing i've ever seen. < 1336594446 956518 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever < 1336594634 82523 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, that has to be a joke < 1336594751 345902 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/Global_warming < 1336594837 699203 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, http://conservapedia.com/Special:Statistics < 1336594923 773875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: does that have a conservative bias too? < 1336594956 157995 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking that at least are not so many, :) < 1336595012 941388 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: don't you know that there is no conservative bias. Jusl liberal lies and conservative truth!!!!!!111!!!! < 1336595055 135049 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/b2wsEtbA < 1336595066 400586 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- Would that stand a chance being turing-complete? < 1336595070 831196 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember me about comunist party from my country, small amount of people knowing everything, :) < 1336595242 741208 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: whete do you live? < 1336595271 602104 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :romania, :) is not communist anymore but it was < 1336595302 863384 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo is no difference between fanatics < 1336595323 597424 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-246.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336595335 495531 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: I don't undesrtand your sentencw < 1336595339 994042 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-147.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336595381 832696 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i od ndurestnad emth < 1336595432 668593 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :communist or religious like the ones from conservapedia.com when they are so sure they are right, is only fanatism < 1336595480 653805 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: well actually romania has never been communist. It has only been "communist" (read: dictatorship) < 1336595506 253466 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: you are right < 1336595600 711459 :qfr!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf QUIT :Changing host < 1336595600 729673 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw JOIN :#esoteric < 1336595666 571185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: It sounds like one-bit-cell brainfuck maps rather directly to the L, U, E, [, ], P, I instructions. (You'd stay in the leftmost branch all the time.) < 1336595678 380511 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: i don't see why it couldn't be possible < 1336595694 435941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Oh, I didn't read E properly. But anyway if you can flip from 1 to 0. < 1336595738 520831 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there was a loop instruction, i thought that was just a stub < 1336595841 704170 :elliottasdf!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336595847 970222 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliottasdf < 1336595853 319362 :elliottasdf!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklopolasdf < 1336595864 844571 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not asdf. < 1336595872 595286 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :only you are asdf. < 1336595916 40239 :elliottasdf!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't tell me who is and isn't asdf. < 1336595926 810245 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliottaoeu < 1336595962 528903 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will tell whatever i like whenever i like who is and isn't and when is and when is not someone asdf or not asdf. < 1336596017 246119 :elliottasdf!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Fuck you. I'm king of the asdfs. < 1336596026 562729 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck U < 1336596030 101 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1336596031 730595 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :U < 1336596035 102916 :elliottasdf!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Play Crawl for my amusement. < 1336596044 203709 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, dudde, take a fuck and U. < 1336596051 914881 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ion it's func < 1336596061 652474 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fun < 1336596077 461303 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You can flip depending on your location and the value under it, yes. < 1336596116 518235 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m too tired. < 1336596125 833286 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ve been awake for 22 hours. < 1336596133 228577 :elliottasdf!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Perfect Crawl-playing mode < 1336596137 780752 :elliottasdf!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mode. < 1336596138 330556 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been awake more than 13 < 1336596144 111274 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336596153 760178 :elliottasdf!~elliott@95.149.229.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been awake 6. < 1336596157 130430 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336596185 796994 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been awake 14 < 1336596194 509084 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's good too, don't believe people if they call you an ass-dancing faggot because you've been awake only 6 < 1336596199 608814 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yes. < 1336596205 980115 :elliottasdf!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336596215 995206 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be cool if your memory was just your location < 1336596224 955929 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so some kinda stack machine < 1336596226 874633 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :by setting the left to 1 you can always flip the right. < 1336596235 787700 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again this may be just due to my tree-walking automata fetish < 1336596246 960431 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfucks > would probably be then R < 1336596251 111871 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < would be U < 1336596307 532865 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flipping then must be < 1336596339 525554 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEEE to set up left to 1 and not flipping the right. < 1336596344 358992 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then E again to actually flip < 1336596345 909390 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a two-headed tree automaton can simulate a binary tape which i guess is kind of fun < 1336596348 333550 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so LEEEE should work. < 1336596400 597381 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is one-bit-brainfuck "compatible" yes :( < 1336596416 662936 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like languages too easaly compatible to brainfuck variants. < 1336596420 986463 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*easily < 1336596421 922016 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1336596421 958207 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1336596424 128175 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1336596428 761163 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so back the drawing board :) < 1336596434 638742 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want something with trees. < 1336596460 73152 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336596538 926386 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CB46.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336596552 619130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336596554 304409 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Location is memory. That means: The nodes contain no actually data? < 1336596559 677667 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*actual < 1336596573 505032 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :My typo rate is awfully high tonight. < 1336596616 707288 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336596629 989324 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a full infinite binary tree < 1336596643 823400 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a finite set of states and two heads < 1336596656 959223 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :two heads? < 1336596667 30178 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, otherwise you just have a stack < 1336596679 279977 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336596699 896444 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you have two stacks? < 1336596721 550577 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, which is as good as a tape (although way nicer to program for) < 1336596746 219604 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, LRU (head 0) and lru (head 1) < 1336596763 582095 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again it's enough to have two heads and a unary tree. < 1336596779 953098 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unary = 1? < 1336596796 782413 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's just a comman tape. < 1336596797 221928 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336596799 718381 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*common < 1336596802 256130 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah without data < 1336596803 187603 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No fun :( < 1336596808 186097 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1336596819 232699 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nested stacks? < 1336596822 529642 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"without data" fun is coming back. < 1336596823 111063 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter_machine < 1336596828 232243 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336596914 988116 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you have multiple heads on a dataless binary tree with only local interactions, you might get something fun < 1336596956 155320 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my first two-head suggestion was the usual multiheaded automaton where you can read both heads at all times and change a global state based on that info) < 1336596968 70303 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-246.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1336596975 847047 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(here the local data is just whether you're in a left or a right child) < 1336596978 45712 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-246.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336596997 830351 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus12 < 1336596998 342888 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1336597002 703019 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus12? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1336597010 612560 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus22 < 1336597014 250939 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1336597025 118147 :Deewiant_!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336597040 96515 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have LRU and an H, which creates a new head at the root node. < 1336597041 486420 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336597043 272455 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336597046 5720 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336597057 956695 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LHR would mean < 1336597064 353278 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Head[0]: Left < 1336597073 725348 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Head[1]: Right < 1336597078 563737 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Head[0]: Right < 1336597140 762074 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some conditional instructions based on the location of the heads. < 1336597179 10648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336597186 279212 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but then that's just a rather direct n-stacks thing < 1336597186 900213 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might in fact be fun. < 1336597213 212834 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too much Crawl? I interpreted “:c” someone said as “a book, a centaur”. < 1336597236 969613 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the heads should be running different programs, and only seeing each other when close enough < 1336597245 873924 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1336597267 60589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7 < 1336597274 316207 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1336597276 245539 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic. < 1336597321 310234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336597334 862499 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1336597392 334434 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336597425 693821 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea, then. < 1336597482 348177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336597507 311265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336597721 243773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: welcome to washington dc! < 1336597898 222773 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Excess Flood < 1336598044 376438 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336598052 310736 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1336598054 936759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336598102 279546 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336598260 30279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I forget, did you have an opinion on the quote identifier issue? < 1336598314 22067 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apr 28 11:12:28 " is the best identifier. < 1336598330 156643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...not that kind of quote identifier. < 1336598500 744772 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of quote insentifier then? < 1336598513 808179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insentifier :D < 1336598520 880913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336598522 51948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those kinds. < 1336598523 673451 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :552) game where you flip a coin but it's really really big < 1336598558 886291 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Excess Flood < 1336598620 209985 :tswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: happy 5:23 EDT. < 1336598627 27475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome tswett < 1336598629 852404 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336598644 230396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: heh, I get amused when I look at the clock and it's a numerically significant time (sometimes 5:23) < 1336598671 395782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Were you born at 05:23? < 1336598681 237849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1336598692 642886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't remember, it was so long ago… < 1336598699 552175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think I could read then either < 1336598703 519790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you *might* have been born at 05:23? < 1336598712 385868 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1336598715 330389 :tswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have been born at 05:23. < 1336598720 601737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *am* 05:23. < 1336598721 433284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you don't have a watch that says DIE every wednesday just after midnight, i assume < 1336598725 512740 :tswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it was early in the morning. < 1336598735 479653 :rvchangue!~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336598738 398672 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336598745 765450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wat < 1336598754 96276 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336598760 999100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't have a wristwatch at all, nor a functioning pocketwatch (and arguably not a nonfunctioning pocketwatch depending on your definition) < 1336598810 396305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's basically the first three letters of the weekday for the previous day, in german. < 1336598821 625417 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336598828 19734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, I recall you saying something like this before. < 1336598834 783197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i did. < 1336598852 986036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a true story < 1336598857 77852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336598876 795712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i have your watch < 1336598885 962896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now it says WED. in a few hours it will briefly say MIT. < 1336598899 714981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no. < 1336599005 843318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the brand is lorus, fwiw. < 1336599064 754163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why does it show those, exactly? < 1336599156 299574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it has both english and german weekday markings, and every day after midnight it briefly passes over the language you haven't adjusted it for < 1336599215 264300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it rotates the ring with the markings < 1336599313 989918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1336599418 61510 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336599473 767190 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336599533 307360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you two hours east of me, then? < 1336599547 46017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you just anticipating it to happen at the end of tohour? < 1336599550 149533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one, i assume < 1336599575 375655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anticipating, and it's not _exactly_ at midnight. < 1336599594 533540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "briefly", i mean possibly a couple of hours. < 1336599609 737845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ais523 < 1336599610 637137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ais523 is Wed May 9 22:40:10 2012 < 1336599611 54158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time oerjan < 1336599611 944211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Wed May 9 23:40:11 2012 < 1336599623 222180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was assuming one too < 1336599624 834619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see the date number has already started changing < 1336599634 97839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1336599642 789801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do clocks work anyway < 1336599653 692851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that depends on the clock, elliott < 1336599664 448048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does depending work < 1336599709 327071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it has a quartz crystal or something, but then translates that into mechanical movement. < 1336599809 875287 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.174 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336599812 806543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, digital clocks work the same way computers do < 1336599818 502696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely mechanical clocks use gears < 1336599830 167789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I imagine they're commonly somewhere in between nowadays < 1336599892 711783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a battery, at least. < 1336599942 806659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was assuming it was clockwork for some reason < 1336599944 218219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, do wrist-sundials actually exist? < 1336599954 96567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you get clockwork watches < 1336599969 253043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, they exist, although I'm not sure how popular they are nowadays < 1336599974 1067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to wind them up every now and then < 1336599977 577102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :googling just turns up some stupid steampunk crap < 1336599981 325373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i mean < 1336599983 262321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ones that go on your wrist < 1336600008 841902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336600017 645821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all watches were like that once < 1336600020 312042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Wrist_Watch_WWI.jpg wow way to make it fucking impossible to read with a metal thing < 1336600022 479878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not so popular nowadays, though < 1336600042 315259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: YES THANK YOU FOR THE HISTORY LESSON but pocket watches were what used to be popular aiui < 1336600059 553186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i didn't know if anyone made wristwatches before we figured out how to power them with fire < 1336600064 861316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: within my lifetime once < 1336600069 703802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not entirely sure if within yours < 1336600076 97344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :once what? < 1336600081 254401 :rvchangue!~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue JOIN :#esoteric < 1336600089 787456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"all watches were like that once" < 1336600092 378066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe not /all/ of them < 1336600097 468213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they were still pretty common when I was young < 1336600097 737318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, clockwork? < 1336600099 899190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336600139 222111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: luckily there are some older people around < 1336600160 268768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 years ago is the right timeframe for mechanical wristwatches dominating, it seems < 1336600165 791508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just asked < 1336600190 2726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-two million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea." < 1336600341 824036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway ais523 is old < 1336600344 517320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as old as oerjan though < 1336600362 348924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the watches probably weren't available when I was young, come to think of it < 1336600369 120450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which watches < 1336600377 893248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 40-year-old watches were pretty expensive when new, and also pretty durable < 1336600380 828496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there are some around < 1336600389 667939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and purely mechanical watches, isn't that what this discussion is about? < 1336600396 148396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336600421 109507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls having hand-cranked watches at one time < 1336600442 784375 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a pocket watch and few wirst watches, all mechanical < 1336600488 133356 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest i dislike all this digital stuff, :) < 1336600491 437782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls tell me you use a mechanical typewriter w/ your computer too < 1336600516 58287 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would like, :) < 1336600564 302216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen mechanical typewriters, but never used one < 1336600571 209415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION had a mechanical typewriter once < 1336600584 747588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used a mostly mechanical typewriter that had some electronics in, you typed a line at a time then it printed it out < 1336600592 817170 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i start programing with this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_card, :) < 1336600596 48129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort-of like typewriter keyboard -> microcontroller -> daisywheel printer < 1336600603 669319 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/wong/freedom.jpg < 1336600614 256838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: my parents were programming on punch cards when I was very young, they gave me some (unpunched) ones to play with < 1336600628 934314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only Babbage had built the Analytical Engine, then rszeno's dream would have been realised. < 1336600659 355558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You... played with punchcards? < 1336600662 269795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not very exciting. < 1336600676 500908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to post them through chairs, apparently < 1336600689 276198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very young children are amused by things like that, apparently even if they're me < 1336600706 446194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This explains a lot. < 1336600713 297092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not sure what. < 1336600754 247255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that comment you just made /also/ explains a lot and I'm not sure what < 1336600763 481518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no. < 1336600769 101118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, you hate past-elliott, right? < 1336600784 823263 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was an asshole < 1336600790 515297 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1336600813 226777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not nearly as bad as present coppro. < 1336600819 658591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or President coppro. < 1336600847 560775 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1336600855 142260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really hate past-ais523 < 1336600858 808536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were pretty naive < 1336600868 442775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not really hateable < 1336600897 206065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: If you become President, I'm leaving America forever. < 1336601003 285806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: By the way, please make Agora not boring. < 1336601018 954234 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but but < 1336601046 244313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do it. < 1336601046 800429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now. < 1336601049 959328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may enlist ais523 for help. < 1336601071 825558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but you aren't in America? < 1336601080 643130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to go there first in order to leave it again < 1336601084 271539 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he'll go to America just so that he can... yeah < 1336601085 653233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION refuses to travel to the US < 1336601104 708532 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he can even do it in style and get deported < 1336601115 66358 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :purpose of trip: "deportation" < 1336601119 42404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I dislike international travel a lot, it seems so heavily unnecessary < 1336601127 674307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abroad is depressingly similar to nearby < 1336601128 203479 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by which you mean overseas? < 1336601135 978568 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or all international travel? < 1336601140 662543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I live on an island, there's no distinction < 1336601148 653843 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what I mean < 1336601155 29521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I don't < 1336601161 112245 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you include Europe? < 1336601171 851290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I include everywhere non-UK < 1336601174 947781 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336601178 225549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dislike travelling much even within the UK < 1336601194 118209 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :colocation is key < 1336601198 528545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm happier if I'm within walking distance of home (that is, I /could/ walk it, not necessarily that I actually /do/) < 1336601199 737047 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :travelling is sometimes needed for colocation < 1336601207 679603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by colocation, here? < 1336601217 349817 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :being in the same place as someone else < 1336601228 62643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what the Internet's for? < 1336601322 632636 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the same < 1336601338 14057 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a reason conferences generally haven't gone digital < 1336601382 682313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't found it yet < 1336601393 250446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :going off to Canada for a conference disrupted my life for several weeks < 1336601393 767440 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for starters, you can't chat over dinner < 1336601405 170260 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :overseas is nasty due to the really large travel time < 1336601420 605263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't chat there over dinner either, almost bankrupted by the first one < 1336601426 502192 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1336601427 887776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then spent most of my mealtimes eating at Subway < 1336601453 286048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was too moral to claim it on expenses because I would have needed to eat anyway < 1336601516 326025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :academic expenses are pretty much all a scam, apart from travel (and accommodation if that's necessary, e.g. when going abroad) < 1336601702 220033 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but the standard is that you get to claim them < 1336601739 129193 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet as a general rule, eating out isn't that much more costly than cooking yourself if you factor the time in < 1336601785 835903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I eat "out" at lunch pretty much every day, although it's typically university canteen or supermarket ready meal < 1336601888 466093 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336601994 847471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1336602031 668482 :davidwerecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336602035 120357 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336602096 222759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I assign you to cleaning up [[list of ideas]] < 1336602108 176878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I assign zzo38 to cleaning it up < 1336602120 317061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336602226 802504 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to ask for advice on what Star Trek episode me and my gf should watch < 1336602235 783853 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not enough details in prior statement for actual advice) < 1336602391 622549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi, welcome to Asia < 1336602418 621881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: there are a few really really infamous ones < 1336602457 656728 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, full details: She loves the Stargate franchise, but I don't think has seen any Star Trek, so what would appeal to her < 1336602470 690585 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although we're probably going to watch some SG-1 now < 1336602522 89834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, Sgeo has an actual girlfriend now? < 1336602534 761447 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336602575 442484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same person you were alluding to before, or someone else? < 1336602617 483407 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was the alluding? < 1336602637 652415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember < 1336602642 565414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog alluded to < 1336602673 21526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was "alluded-to". < 1336602675 143063 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336602676 228342 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was earlier ago than March, no < 1336602691 633512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog Sgeo.*alluded to < 1336602704 688545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was years ago < 1336602707 864687 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-12-21.txt:21:58:59: Sgeo, I assume he assumed it was Alluded To Female. < 1336602722 970598 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no < 1336602725 398440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it was already a meme in december 2010, apparently < 1336602726 768162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and OK < 1336602764 134453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how is to create javascript in xml??? < 1336602785 569769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: use a JS to XSLT compiler, I guess < 1336602870 479635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how to enable PHP with ajax and compiling < 1336602937 691619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, can't think of a good and sufficiently facetious answer < 1336602968 371334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how to develop facebook with visual studio node.js < 1336602987 647138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: first you need to go work at facebook < 1336602999 185075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336603004 773838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to work for facebook < 1336603027 557793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have competitions every now and then, facebook hacker cup < 1336603031 361155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can search for it on bing < 1336603045 31989 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336603047 235080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to search on bing < 1336603082 490765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to breathe :( < 1336603118 916166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336603208 399666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336603273 248528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to receive help < 1336603427 333403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :, < 1336603686 462651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to solve problems < 1336603693 650888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to do things < 1336603784 642920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to surprise sheep < 1336603835 559808 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :show them a wolf < 1336603853 202387 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to ask how to < 1336603861 640464 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, elliott already made that joke < 1336603902 900787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to wolf < 1336603913 29335 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheep < 1336604407 761085 :davidwerecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Quitting... < 1336604487 204423 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336604509 174658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336604516 897343 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336604528 164112 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appers that I quit when I login... < 1336604539 1619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :davidwerecat =/= david_werecat < 1336604585 212763 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably that was my shadowbot then < 1336604614 880222 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how are things today on #esoteric? < 1336604699 71468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esotericy < 1336604797 942368 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even more so than http://esolangs.org/wiki/? ? < 1336604900 313424 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALWAYS < 1336605320 4014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki is nothing like #esoteric < 1336605387 708293 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :judging by the logs, looks a lot more social in here < 1336605459 56380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336605506 870547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1336605584 776718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the logs are all fabricated by Gregor < 1336605703 398145 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336605728 284783 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336605994 158117 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a lot of work fabricating all those logs, but it helps me practice for my erotic fan fictions. < 1336606017 948677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your erotic fan fictions read like IRC logs? < 1336606059 453243 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336606133 490427 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if erotic fan fiction can be written like IRC, then I might still have some hope... < 1336606168 779478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone knows the money is in erotic fan fiction. < 1336606183 505295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: P.S. "fictions" reads so awkwardly. < 1336606191 897082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly "fanfics" doesn't. < 1336606315 361687 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.63.160 PART :#esoteric < 1336606320 28766 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, then where do eroge come in? < 1336606394 960116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I defer to Gregor. He's the expert. < 1336606412 494946 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336606463 62240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336606490 383233 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He sat, nonchalantly, one finger running unthinkingly but tantalizingly up and down his strong, toned thigh. It wasn't unusual for oklopol to be here, waiting for elliott's arrival, but something was different today. oklopol was not typically nude. < 1336606503 125114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Gregor < 1336606512 261208 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes a bow. < 1336606526 81925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that line is probably illegal in several countries < 1336606593 266601 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1336606593 402699 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 4 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1336606596 733562 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1336606606 785446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello monqy < 1336606622 88995 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336606640 645740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello monqy < 1336606657 843253 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good memos < 1336606659 223742 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks lots < 1336606689 311213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does someone stolen your clothing? < 1336606694 928817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336606708 21015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i knew you'd be really sad if you didn't get updated on all the best #esoteric < 1336606756 264309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this is a correct way? getBlocks n = sortBy (on antispecificness fst) . (>>= \(Declaration x y z) -> (y, z) <$ guard (n == x)); < 1336606782 711066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you alive < 1336606797 784095 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336606809 503389 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im nothing but a jerk's ghost < 1336606826 68437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336606828 7374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's me :'( < 1336606828 555620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: How can you type on computer while dead, then? < 1336606841 322167 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :teletype < 1336606892 968917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a crime for dead people to act as if still alive? < 1336606940 315972 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes im in ghost jail < 1336606952 594806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1336606953 554702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336606962 44020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you missed a great tv < 1336606981 992309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone tried to escape purgy by running up from D:4 and exiting the dungeon < 1336606994 626897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they died on the upstairs leading out of the dungeon < 1336607017 873154 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same outcome, really < 1336607023 913577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are some of the stairs broken? < 1336607031 508341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/stairs/steps/ < 1336607044 154788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no purgy just hit them < 1336607048 422233 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ancient crawl you got more points for exiting alive but nowadays it's the same as any other death < 1336607059 359708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also someone else committed very slow suicide to a killer bee larva! < 1336607060 528875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very < 1336607061 525885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very slow < 1336607070 94439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta keep monqy updated < 1336607091 151222 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im updated < 1336607119 967634 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:44:19 < CIA-97> elliptic * rfea3bfef4d52 /crawl-ref/source/aptitudes.h: Improve felid UC and Fighting apts. < 1336607125 155657 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :felids "un nefred" < 1336607146 794494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the joke is that elliptic is playing a felid right now < 1336607154 359530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :being a dev reasons < 1336607188 929221 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:46:17 < CIA-97> kilobyte * rabd22f24f12b /crawl-ref/source/aptitudes.h: Nerf felid Summ aptitude: +1 -> 0 < 1336607192 741733 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :felids "re nerfreD" < 1336607195 428231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just about to quote that < 1336607227 138679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by tomorrow felids will have a completely different set of aptitudes but be no better or worse < 1336607270 904623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336607509 74099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:51 anyone have thoughts on my jackal sprites? http://i.imgur.com/xxKOi.png < 1336607536 715066 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are old and which are new help < 1336607550 306893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also missed: that guy defending tiles! < 1336607587 885224 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not even going to pay attention < 1336607595 547556 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiles arguments are awful < 1336607596 763656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that was ages ago < 1336607599 200771 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336607609 73258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't even become an argument everyone just snickered < 1336608168 231408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Getting element out of IO in Haskell" cries < 1336608237 213597 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336608444 727625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: note: you may die < 1336608461 444749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but im already dead! < 1336608469 830525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even ghosts can die < 1336608473 268752 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336608477 276541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336608480 534980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1336608483 249644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip rip: the double rip (twice) < 1336609524 16292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you may enjoy this tv < 1336609544 525393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336609545 477122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1336609566 856048 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be amsuing < 1336609589 461545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :naga of chei "always amusing" < 1336609593 315967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just waiting for the monster moat < 1336609659 371098 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, no? < 1336609692 338772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addqoute was that chaos spawn para or just chei < 1336609694 522666 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: addqoute: not found < 1336609698 831225 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com NICK :shachaf < 1336609728 887200 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`qoute < 1336609731 763388 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: qoute: not found < 1336609740 19579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should go in the chei learndb entry "monqy wisdom for all" < 1336609764 728541 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know how to use henzells learndb < 1336609774 275184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336609775 187639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1336609775 986938 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ? < 1336609780 930364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see people do it every now and then and im like < 1336609783 619587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to remember that < 1336609785 304562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i forget < 1336609796 872494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!learn add entryname entrytext < 1336609798 398273 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to add) < 1336609809 56675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh im not going to add things im just going to tell other people to < 1336609812 413325 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336609824 934094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait ill do it < 1336609826 345437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN SECRET < 1336609832 9931 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no secrets < 1336609848 208528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it doesn't listen in /msg < 1336609854 63785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terrible! < 1336609856 49412 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it listens to queries but < 1336609857 601992 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to adds < 1336609861 747231 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or edits < 1336609863 991318 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or anything like that < 1336609874 415811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it listens to queries but < 1336609874 798358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336609878 283237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~awful~ < 1336609893 107370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess ##crawl-dev is the next best thing to private "laughs" < 1336609895 773605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why are they ## < 1336609899 171437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre kind of official arent they < 1336609964 896022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1336609968 437228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's wisdom will die with him < 1336609993 303276 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can add it if you want!!! < 1336610006 536007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell no!!!! i never "do" anyhting < 1336610009 960355 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can coerce shachaf or Sgeo into adding it < 1336610010 38014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why dont YOU add it?!???! < 1336610034 124509 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or get like < 1336610038 130429 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus to join and add it < 1336610053 946168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the weak way out < 1336610162 192892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sorry monqy but your wisdom just < 1336610165 259572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~isn't~good~enough~ < 1336610168 930679 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336610268 382177 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336610324 882506 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336610395 418094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336610397 385525 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Wed May 9 17:39:56 2012 < 1336610401 430925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: happy 17:39:56 < 1336610447 565890 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy < 1336610520 145725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help. < 1336610528 239604 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ? < 1336610535 959903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ( < 1336610791 177826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1336610823 910396 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellllllo < 1336610879 253224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ##crawl dissed heavy armour on ghoule earlier :'( < 1336610908 399271 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336610911 855087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did it do < 1336610911 993126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by ##crawl i mean one person in ##crawl iirc) < 1336610917 124424 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336610924 562902 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heavy armour ghoule was fine ime < 1336610941 232706 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie i tried heavy armour ghoule and i won it < 1336610942 443529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: they were all "you [not me -Ed] know how you die really quick in melee?? thats because the heavy armour makes your uc rly slowe!!!" < 1336610955 149523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ghoule was like ok im robe < 1336610977 797057 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes your uc slower but idk how slow it is < 1336611071 953572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5545 oh no < 1336611445 239653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: look at my gr8 D:1 < 1336611449 763934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like i'm playing monqys-craw < 1336611451 427044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like i'm playing monqys-crawl < 1336611466 102247 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to robe this time < 1336611473 849636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know ;_; should i < 1336611477 846707 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336611486 145729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i could go medium armour??? < 1336611495 983158 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just did heavey armour and no spelles on my ghoul win and it worked well < 1336611502 972816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want spelles < 1336611515 731892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336611519 444178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also dont want to die < 1336611526 373468 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask ##crawl for advic they're probably better on this fieeld than me < 1336611539 87576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are ##crawl < 1336611542 621765 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336611632 178878 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336611641 639010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :leather armour > robe right < 1336611663 8215 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as ac goes yes < 1336611696 220822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jessica r u even trying < 1336611745 518959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Jessica, *are you *trying? < 1336611749 127518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :proper englesh < 1336611750 653603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*english < 1336611793 475143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_j - a scroll labeled DOALID SOREAR < 1336611795 827175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorear :o < 1336611801 605236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a person !!! < 1336611825 426033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh no i found plate < 1336611835 279842 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336611868 357102 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps do you know what you mean by medium armour < 1336611879 960966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1336611881 310688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember you < 1336611882 320923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :telling me once < 1336611900 819032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i primarily remember is: there is not much light armour but there is: some medium armour < 1336611903 665692 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probably aiming for like dragon armour < 1336611912 603240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dragn < 1336611929 74759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill just go heavy armour < 1336611939 568543 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'l want to train dodg too if you're meddiu < 1336611953 248227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :less reason to train dodg in heavy < 1336611954 351695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the medium progression < 1336611958 77082 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336611958 595816 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336611963 749764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you knew before!!! < 1336611966 416795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog medium armour < 1336611972 805041 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a bunch of crap meddius < 1336611973 366857 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-05-02.txt:03:29:56: oh, medium armoures < 1336611977 416074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog medium armour < 1336611985 32120 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-05-02.txt:03:29:56: oh, medium armoures < 1336611988 173158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog medium armour < 1336611991 630391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336611994 844157 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the common mediuem armoures are crepe < 1336611996 32 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-05-02.txt:03:29:56: oh, medium armoures < 1336611998 331691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336612002 662710 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, pretty crepey < 1336612008 241954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url 2012-05-02 < 1336612008 997971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1336612010 311487 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/2012-05-02 < 1336612011 595251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im creped out < 1336612016 83120 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you'll want dragon armoures" < 1336612017 367318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logurl 2012-05-02 < 1336612020 802372 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-05-02 < 1336612021 182924 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ask ##crawl" < 1336612040 80140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:29:33: "robe -> spells -> thanks for going light armoures" < 1336612042 303464 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use the crepe medium armoures in between now and dragon < 1336612045 621685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you didn't actually tell me the medium armour progresion < 1336612055 813410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah but ;_; < 1336612062 979079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ring and plate right here!! so easy and comfortable < 1336612063 936360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so AC < 1336612073 577311 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask ##crawl i;v only done like 1 heavy and 1 medium ever < 1336612078 237411 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e v e r < 1336612083 529640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you usllay do < 1336612103 273351 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of my games where back when medium/heavy was a joke so i did mostly robes < 1336612116 728535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could go with robes but < 1336612116 815718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also by ever i mean that's what i won < 1336612119 835276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never seen < 1336612125 330254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :decent robes < 1336612126 278675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only < 1336612127 631382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1336612129 87570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336612136 545427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how to not die without lots of nice armour protection < 1336612146 399691 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :robe of resistance or an artefact robe that's better than ror is your target < 1336612150 407573 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :robe of rF if that fails < 1336612166 214758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how do you avoid dying :( < 1336612169 480572 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dodg < 1336612173 46909 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: spell < 1336612178 289201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :without spelle < 1336612184 841159 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask ##carwl < 1336612189 652712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336612193 270609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill just go < 1336612194 841048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hevvys < 1336612210 149381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self "theres plate on this level" < 1336612221 29932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: my main HEAVY PROBLEM is that i die before i get to train any armour skille < 1336612221 611716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336612222 790050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im training uc < 1336612237 5745 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CB46.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336612237 487426 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then train armour!!! < 1336612253 159923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336612254 347732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then ill die < 1336612255 189096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from < 1336612257 694257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not being strong ;_; < 1336612261 995512 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask ##crawl < 1336612264 954454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also im < 1336612266 244936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to die now < 1336612276 179661 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn;t have charged into that situation < 1336612287 457693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too l8 < 1336612310 866191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i < 1336612314 38461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't expecting not to die there < 1336612349 237796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you have troubkle with ghmo: try something els??? < 1336612360 623938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else has stupid hunger mechanics < 1336612366 239517 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mummies < 1336612373 141521 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gh not-mo < 1336612375 94750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :potions < 1336612387 229021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only feasible gh not-mo would be ghak wouldn't it < 1336612387 758338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336612388 985511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a spellcaster < 1336612390 985405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i dont like spelles < 1336612425 384475 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spriganes are herbivor so that means no chopeing up corpses or eacting chunsk at least < 1336612439 264169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhh ok so < 1336612440 54387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by dodg < 1336612440 129497 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have low hp and are spellcastey < 1336612441 670717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean < 1336612443 621640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :train dodging < 1336612444 678415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or run away < 1336612448 503585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going light < 1336612449 378161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bceause if its just the former maybe ill go light armour < 1336612451 263162 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :train dodging < 1336612453 358656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336612454 640732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i do that < 1336612456 471039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :straight away < 1336612459 751359 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336612461 131643 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336612462 339934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally < 1336612467 709479 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be smarter about running away < 1336612471 692210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336612472 382203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1336612486 100402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if im going light < 1336612489 785254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i put on this robe or this leather armour < 1336612494 525769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(before Ctrl+F robe) < 1336612494 715031 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1336612578 513214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget if stealth is worth anything < 1336612597 233933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ask #c#corlewaj < 1336612611 753390 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :###carawl < 1336612629 893810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one last question you wont answer!!! < 1336612631 860787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the robe person also said < 1336612633 460101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shields < 1336612635 681837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that dum < 1336612641 65233 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is this robe person < 1336612644 683187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget completely < 1336612649 989370 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i already talked about shields+uc < 1336612657 799659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget what you talked about them in < 1336612666 834532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in? idk what i was trying to say there < 1336612674 827573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1336612677 107498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot what you said < 1336612681 705174 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically they block your off-hand attack but uc is still really powerful with them and plus you get defense but usually i don't bother but other people do bother < 1336612690 995223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really have so much of an opinion there < 1336612713 265830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336612714 425074 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where i do have an opinion is on using a shield that blocks you from using a big good weapon but you're uc so your weapon is good even with a shield < 1336612725 669795 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless this all was nerfed") < 1336612727 190987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it matter how big the shield is < 1336612734 98596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie < 1336612737 447604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :large shield vs < 1336612749 834365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever the shields i normalyl use are called < 1336612773 440145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1336612774 760694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it matter for < 1336612776 998151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uc < 1336612798 657060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336612803 803769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1336612809 819018 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :larger shields have bigger penalties but also bigger rewards < 1336612819 969331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my < 1336612823 702441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AC didn't go up < 1336612842 86566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh do i need to train shields or sth before i can wear something that big < 1336612932 919652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks stairs < 1336612953 335564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally regretting light armour right now!!! < 1336613023 193201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shields don't boost your ac < 1336613025 780571 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they boost your sh < 1336613091 929933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336613094 229688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the difference :( < 1336613114 114047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12/0 --> 7/23 < 1336613117 679140 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh is more like ev in that it completely blocks some attacks sometimes < 1336613125 189583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeh that's a pretty bad EV penalty!!! but that's a high SH (or is it) < 1336613126 483473 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than reduces damage from attacks < 1336613141 285151 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well yeah you need a lot of sh to negate the penalties of a large shields < 1336613147 913860 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's a learndb entr about iy < 1336613160 437589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill < 1336613162 117335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop this shield for now < 1336613163 815988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a smaller one < 1336613166 273677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then come back to it later < 1336613312 506312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow killing things seems < 1336613317 746969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :much easier when im not wearing armour < 1336613335 369475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on sigmund you can do better than that robe < 1336613428 175308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creys < 1336613459 538692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the downsides to not much AC" < 1336613687 862394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you wear cloaks with robes i forgete :( < 1336613726 380781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cloaks go on top of body armoures (robe is body armoures) < 1336613729 908557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so: yes < 1336613792 175396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NICE CHEI ALTAR < 1336613798 909141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- guy who talks in upper case a lot < 1336613818 750426 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336613829 668191 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why arent you worshop che < 1336613837 643688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im preparing myself < 1336613844 86082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the responsibility < 1336613847 995988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that being a cool chei pal requires < 1336613860 547610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also by "chei" i mean "makhleb" < 1336613920 256317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, crazy yiuf. < 1336613925 563558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hazy yiuf. < 1336613928 962855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336613944 245387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Crazy Yiuf yells, "Key! Dawk disdain shoe." < 1336613944 419669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Crazy Yiuf hits you with a quarterstaff of chaos! < 1336613944 437920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * < 1336613945 826972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You fade into invisibility! < 1336613947 827526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, crazy yiuf. < 1336613949 825246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thazy yiuf. < 1336613969 487971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill run to upstairs wiht invisibility power < 1336613972 900315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336613974 474294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hit him again < 1336613992 357502 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"both could either survive you or get you kield" < 1336614041 419524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did he know where i was going!!! < 1336614088 938351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ah well" < 1336614091 950945 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how invisiblity in crawl works < 1336614095 229653 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"totally unfair" < 1336614096 865832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what < 1336614099 318563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terrible < 1336614101 98745 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336614108 538287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my roguelike's design prevents that completely < 1336614119 57302 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my roguelikes deign dosnt have invnisisbiilbity < 1336614125 319728 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bc invisbibislibty sucks < 1336614152 764335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"everything sucks" -- monqy < 1336614165 334748 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1336614209 465079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok monqy i agree < 1336614213 82244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything sucks :'( < 1336614257 927228 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336614270 639575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with invis though i don't really find it very offensive < 1336614296 577409 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its offensive ofr reasons i cant explain waell < 1336614316 645425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336614332 930021 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I'm back! < 1336614392 563045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nooo < 1336614393 986171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :butterfley < 1336614452 591407 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You'd better butterflee! < 1336614646 792437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest in peace terence < 1336614812 620395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgiratch no < 1336614818 261943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n,o < 1336614841 181087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1336614858 917755 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calmly walk away if you can't handle it < 1336614872 368782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"calmly" < 1336614876 787822 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think you might be able to handle it, get to a staircase < 1336614880 968556 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can go up the staircas < 1336614887 362253 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it fails < 1336614904 963484 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't bother with that ghost < 1336614906 531320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow its really scary < 1336614907 572990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336614908 241978 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it;s too strong for you < 1336614910 532839 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's < 1336614912 776145 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on thes taircas < 1336614915 702489 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haw haw < 1336614922 137700 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336614925 191530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love it when its on thes taircas < 1336614931 677015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i dont get the joke help) < 1336614937 439054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336614939 273980 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had to hatch down < 1336614941 805412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly level layout for a ghost that's too strong for me < 1336614948 880581 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yse < 1336614954 539330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by perfect i mean < 1336614955 189613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst < 1336614962 373604 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336614980 746279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just < 1336614983 972793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to skip this level < 1336615008 424181 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good choice < 1336615046 986197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336615050 145187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yellow wasps are scary aernt they < 1336615053 700175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336615057 326260 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336615064 209203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1336615067 969625 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :htere's a stairs up right there < 1336615072 87041 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :szobmies dont take stirs < 1336615077 655592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:57 yellow wasp[1/1]: Terrifying monster that poisons, slows, and paralyzes you. Rendered mostly impotent by poison resistance, otherwise quite deadly. A good target for wands of polymorph, if you lack rPois. < 1336615085 1001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: dude < 1336615086 240158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you < 1336615089 461665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen the previous level < 1336615101 552678 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bettter than dying to that yellow wasp zom,bie\ < 1336615115 929999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it monqy < 1336615116 576662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1336615119 816890 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the staircase takes your ight there < 1336615121 539014 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1336615133 290694 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaft down or smth idk < 1336615142 427599 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or go up then shaft down and hope you drop 2 levels < 1336615148 69485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant really < 1336615149 321323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go anywhere < 1336615152 65823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :being that im completely surrounded < 1336615160 422277 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink < 1336615166 164826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try again < 1336615167 4753 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hack yr way out and hw < 1336615174 893498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try also again < 1336615179 845941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj identifying < 1336615195 434707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj not having any scrolls of identify < 1336615203 23435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill just < 1336615208 349372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff either the lumpy pink or viscous blue i guess < 1336615213 678282 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hav fun < 1336615247 434224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had fun < 1336615257 878189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip elliott "too magic for this world" < 1336615321 10753 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1336615388 838968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does your roguelike have ghost < 1336615396 313321 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undecidded < 1336615407 588926 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : i ahvent thought about ghost yet < 1336615425 841938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like ghost theyer unfair but fu < 1336615426 82934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1336615635 377130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does your roguelike have walruses < 1336615638 544531 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does your roguelike have area-effect spells? < 1336615651 364517 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does your roguelike have spells that can DESTROY WALLS < 1336615674 428180 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undecided, likely? depemds omn waht you mean by aoe, undecided, respectivel < 1336615757 659986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wgats aoe < 1336615761 686304 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean spells that attach to a particular location, and taper off in strength from it quadratically in L1 distance :D < 1336615863 744860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whats aoek < 1336615892 836900 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :L1 distance? is that manhattan or waht < 1336615898 231535 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: area of effect, k < 1336615906 67719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, k < 1336615912 6961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :l1 is taxicab < 1336615913 655127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336615914 435255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336615933 739908 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i m used to different nams for them < 1336615939 435664 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the 1 is still there < 1336615940 471712 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336615976 373781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it'd only be l1 if the rest of the gam was in l1 < 1336615984 27349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a horrible secret its that i actually kind of like crawls euclidean spellcasting/throwiwng < 1336615995 610309 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: im undecided between l1 and l\infty < 1336615999 775608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels weird that someone could completely avoid yr ranged attacks just by standing like one square down < 1336615999 911236 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336616002 97118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a diagonal or whatever < 1336616013 164032 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: understandable. squares or diamonds. it's hard to say. < 1336616048 888631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: im more concerned about the gameplay effects < 1336616085 676124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: am i bad :( < 1336616098 963753 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and los is unbounded so you wouldn't see squares vs diamomds but the way im doing light bending around walls dpends on which distance i use so there would be a bit of aesthetics but i wouldnt worry about it < 1336616106 163953 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what about it do eoyu like < 1336616116 456586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:13 it feels weird that someone could completely avoid yr ranged attacks just by standing like one square down < 1336616119 386851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:13 from a diagonal or whatever < 1336616120 341126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1336616140 290184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the likelihood of a monster yr fighting actually being in the tiles that can get you / be got by you if you just use chebyshev is < 1336616141 307393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"completely avoid yr ranged attacks just by standing like one square down" is fixed by square los < 1336616143 106123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :low < 1336616146 950245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how < 1336616151 444864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im talking < 1336616153 2988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue style < 1336616154 748356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you cano nly aim < 1336616155 879224 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :square ranges < 1336616159 686273 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336616160 980928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :up down left right nw se ne < 1336616161 523504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1336616163 938688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336616166 2569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1336616167 814378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in brogue < 1336616169 859403 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not brogue style < 1336616172 954069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only throw < 1336616174 898248 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue has targeting like crawl < 1336616175 501629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjklyubn < 1336616177 570714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it? < 1336616177 684916 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336616178 405340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336616180 500640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not thinking of throwing < 1336616183 222532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget what im thinking of < 1336616184 87987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres < 1336616187 237156 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're brogueing wrong < 1336616188 559720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something in brogue that's just like that < 1336616189 243612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336616189 885466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is < 1336616191 161967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust me < 1336616192 557354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not throwing < 1336616192 983976 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1336616194 301345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me < 1336616194 556472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its something else < 1336616197 602681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot!!! < 1336616199 478415 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i "need to know" < 1336616200 682163 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welll then < 1336616206 249886 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not staffs either!! < 1336616207 929068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yr doubting me :'( < 1336616209 423929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1336616210 741130 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336616211 25307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some special thing < 1336616211 949690 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1336616213 335051 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubting you < 1336616238 512896 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in my game it wouldnt be just hjklyubn targeting < 1336616242 642225 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :targeting is undecided < 1336616249 943179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well < 1336616254 105761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't crawl's thing technically < 1336616255 704832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chebyshev too < 1336616257 742084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since its composed out of < 1336616259 290759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chebyshev movements < 1336616264 584452 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl's thing is < 1336616266 139997 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"weiord" < 1336616284 157185 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it resistricts what "movements" such as to approximate euclidean looks < 1336616314 602992 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so id say it's crawsl good ol inconsistent quasieuclidean or w/e < 1336616320 466555 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good ol" < 1336616326 926260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhh what could you do with chebyshev that you couldnt with < 1336616330 317117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawls quasieuclidean(tm) < 1336616379 253372 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with square los the difference is that los and ranges are square so you dont have like 2 monsters the same movement-distance from you that you can target one but not the other < 1336616390 381065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336616395 120208 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in square los you still have the quasieuclidean targeting lightbending etc < 1336616440 802123 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just dont like euclidean approximations they feel awkward to me < 1336616442 916442 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336616450 929826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right im asking < 1336616451 410191 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with crawl i dont think you can get better than square los < 1336616453 379166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the targeting would change < 1336616454 685057 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without breaking everything < 1336616455 554913 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336616456 66442 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1336616457 57836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not in your roguelike necessarily) < 1336616457 975321 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undecided < 1336616458 310989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just) < 1336616463 530641 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are < 1336616464 868147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when moving to true chebyshev) < 1336616467 195765 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"multiple possibilities" < 1336616473 72414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the possibilitlitielils ;_; < 1336616486 849028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my thought would be: < 1336616491 251557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplest posisiblity is "no targeting" < 1336616503 98951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can target any square in los and it picks the shortest path to that (ignoring obstacles) < 1336616503 536431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336616511 596519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shortest path chebyshev-wise < 1336616512 311247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336616514 187292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the shortest path crosses any obstacles then < 1336616516 42342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sucks to be you" < 1336616521 326039 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1336616525 299166 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the shortest path" < 1336616526 682991 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336616531 127315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what i mean :( < 1336616533 498282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336616536 100893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are generally multiple minimal paths < 1336616539 154385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336616539 578211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1336616541 704705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick any of them < 1336616541 909626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the whole complication < 1336616544 520011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1336616556 374114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick the one that doesn't bash into anything (don't do this or they'll end up curving around walls and things) < 1336616606 699366 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well light would work the same way the way i want to do it in chebshev < 1336616614 670906 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if u dont want that "go manhaten" < 1336616624 536147 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but: targeting undecided etcetcetc < 1336616633 557820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you want your light to work then < 1336616640 505371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(are you having light) < 1336616672 390607 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any square to which there exists a minimal path unblocked by walls is illuminated < 1336616685 913071 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so chebshev is much brighter than manhattan < 1336616692 300247 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of weird bending too < 1336616696 120581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would do: < 1336616697 622369 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can be good orb ad < 1336616704 865535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :any square to which all minimal paths are unblocked by walls is illuminate < 1336616705 394636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1336616707 712178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*illuminated < 1336616709 269045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-d < 1336616711 263857 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could work too < 1336616711 815712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-that whole line with just the d < 1336616715 65165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it < 1336616716 533997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't bend < 1336616717 780343 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill try < 1336616718 292726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1336616733 502900 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the targeting scheme would then work the same as light < 1336616744 625835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops now i want to < 1336616748 681615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"build a targeting prototype" < 1336616756 285564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but i'm curious as to why you're adding light < 1336616761 669009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you just mean < 1336616762 548953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :los < 1336616774 549484 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean los/fov/whatever yeah < 1336616779 605173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336616779 962084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1336616783 379735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :carrying lanterns around and shit < 1336616785 611361 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336616825 982651 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i don't want like total blindness or transparent walls or anything like that < 1336616837 6151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :total blindness: "a good roguelike setting" < 1336616860 957717 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rogueunlike < 1336617688 862675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sorry to report that monqy has died of indecision < 1336617701 99247 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336617709 128716 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rip monqy" < 1336617716 759018 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336617726 535179 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is indecision a kind of bad surgery < 1336617733 309968 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an incision gone wrong < 1336617986 509303 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336617995 521284 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst kind of bad surgery < 1336618002 636149 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the baddest surgery :'( < 1336618006 776407 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336618010 613213 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you deade now :'( < 1336618015 915685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was already dead < 1336618018 511119 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336618023 814231 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you double deade now < 1336618025 892601 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336618026 407175 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. alive < 1336618036 168590 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1336618057 614185 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi my name is monqy and im alive" < 1336618073 737706 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not so sure about that! < 1336618079 909419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think monqy is thrice dead now < 1336618081 602087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my name might be something else now, after all < 1336618083 287179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerk's ghost ghost ghost < 1336618091 91894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more 'ss < 1336618095 957420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"'s"s < 1336618099 379714 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you thread < 1336618106 284832 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly < 1336618110 331435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've lost track < 1336618122 835180 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your'e' needle < 1336618126 420657 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or haystacke < 1336618136 948751 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you never know" < 1336618137 639699 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit more dead than i'm comnfortable with < 1336618163 243190 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: dead people are rarely comfortabl'e :'( < 1336618170 217930 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336618321 551433 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: would you like to be resurrected < 1336618323 271429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :ellipticiott < 1336618584 160149 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336618777 117969 :tswett!~tswett@thay.Stanford.EDU QUIT :Changing host < 1336618777 136304 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1336619654 438297 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i wish i could help you wif roguelike < 1336620380 242563 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip quintopia < 1336620387 568470 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed by wish to help monqy wif roguelike < 1336620389 130451 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336620392 496765 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am here < 1336620409 205934 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336620409 881971 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead < 1336620412 110118 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ded < 1336620455 166647 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336620458 543667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a guest < 1336620495 907267 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gohst < 1336620501 360029 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336620501 806457 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a guest's ghost < 1336620505 298749 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i misspelled ghsot < 1336620518 966144 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghtos < 1336620521 339917 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosth < 1336620524 788796 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oghts < 1336620528 362680 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1336620660 623500 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336620664 402494 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goths < 1336620744 292333 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1336620744 562752 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sho < 1336620744 883829 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh < 1336620745 140389 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sghuo < 1336620745 378465 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336620747 797701 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336620750 297291 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336620752 799293 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336620755 299980 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336620757 799790 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :suohto < 1336620760 300117 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gsho < 1336620773 309743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently pressing all the ghost keys at once does not produce ghost < 1336620799 228045 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shot < 1336620800 218060 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sghot < 1336620801 253584 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sghot < 1336620801 975569 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shot < 1336620803 220648 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgo < 1336620805 219842 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgho < 1336620807 217303 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gshot < 1336620809 216558 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghost < 1336620811 218889 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes!!!! < 1336620813 219836 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did it < 1336620815 220441 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: fun game try it < 1336620830 583413 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghoasrt < 1336620837 66340 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough < 1336620876 715280 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336620910 269275 :JeroGreen!~quassel@190.172.193.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336620949 223481 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/132037/how-to-save-text-input-using-xml < 1336620949 725561 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a song about monqy playing < 1336620951 442604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like < 1336620952 268896 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome JeroGreen < 1336620954 593695 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :JeroGreen: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336620958 849850 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who shot the monqy monqy mmonqy monqy monqy < 1336620963 465747 :JeroGreen!~quassel@190.172.193.211 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336620968 764780 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmonqy < 1336620977 381777 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcrawl : crawl :: mmonqy : monqy < 1336621071 230480 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does 'm' stand for 'monqy' < 1336621078 170896 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or for 'mmonqy'??????? < 1336621078 515336 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336621080 67722 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336621085 539238 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it stand for 'hi' < 1336621093 392332 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure it stands for 'm' < 1336621100 309248 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1336621104 316680 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :extremely < 1336621111 292558 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximally clever < 1336621120 805338 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336622216 419130 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help. < 1336622252 830414 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yES? < 1336622323 4000 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im explodeing. < 1336622325 835281 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boom < 1336622328 635955 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"boom" < 1336622330 491344 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336622332 236907 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehlp. < 1336622337 882772 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*heelp. < 1336622410 167163 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im corl. < 1336622520 14427 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip sigmund. < 1336622670 196610 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336622719 408695 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyyy < 1336622722 165196 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :makhleb altar < 1336622727 691709 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336622812 729484 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhhh < 1336622823 265858 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :grundr < 1336622827 112205 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i run or < 1336622831 487889 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i "take him on" < 1336622831 732461 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayb you can "take" him. mayb not < 1336622852 437412 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow how did i survive that < 1336622857 349394 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can "take him to dinner". < 1336622879 917699 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: help. what should i do. < 1336622885 102886 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1336622886 242422 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello grinder < 1336622899 391359 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should < 1336622900 211988 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :upstairs < 1336622988 738423 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1336622991 278552 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved < 1336623004 605740 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :grinder can't paralyze you IF HE'S DEAD < 1336623005 532142 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good old-fashioned way (i.e. with claws) < 1336623010 273907 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: he is now < 1336623019 133443 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used a very advanced strategy < 1336623025 558892 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consisting of clawing him until he stopped being alive < 1336623054 307125 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my D:2 is < 1336623057 165465 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so full of islands it's ridiculous < 1336623110 544786 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_You finish putting on the +0 leather armour of Free Expression {SInv}. < 1336623111 160781 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of < 1336623112 710245 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :free expression < 1336623117 564467 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh;at < 1336623131 774052 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1336623169 900426 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinv!! < 1336623187 582974 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it better than my robe < 1336623196 529256 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends < 1336623198 396744 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ghouls have rC naturally < 1336623200 56314 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1336623209 212620 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also +2 < 1336623220 206093 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one less rC and one less AC and one less EV probably too but hey sinv < 1336623231 844727 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336623237 549131 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill < 1336623240 45913 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep with robe < 1336623240 707536 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336623243 133403 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i find enchant armour < 1336623246 32339 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll enchant it and use it maybe??? < 1336623251 893719 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an artifact < 1336623252 157574 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cant enchant artefacts, ellipticiott < 1336623254 234374 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't enchant it < 1336623255 572125 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336623261 997701 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill < 1336623264 441376 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask ##crawl < 1336623289 129361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336623300 981933 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did quasit turn into quokka < 1336623326 999501 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1336623327 862866 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qu < 1336623359 741377 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on < 1336623361 169839 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :runed plate armour < 1336623365 676988 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do that to me crawl im going light armour < 1336623380 402455 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: (is light armour better than heavy on ghmo im suffering from indecision) < 1336623403 945277 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go light if you want to cast spells and train dodging < 1336623411 600750 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go heavy if fuck spells, you just want to tab things < 1336623412 935635 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1336623417 472694 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not doing spelles i dont like spelles < 1336623427 233531 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't like < 1336623429 310554 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :spellees < 1336623434 285527 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't ever use light armour for any reason < 1336623438 612296 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since light armour is for being able to cast spells in < 1336623442 829091 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, don't fight crazy yiuf < 1336623445 422785 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he can randomly paralyze you < 1336623449 836243 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1336623452 921386 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what he can do! < 1336623455 363842 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i quote < 1336623460 941749 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i "just want to tab things" < 1336623466 294019 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1336623469 625066 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :worked perfectly < 1336623494 62728 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: anyway the reasons i was going light was < 1336623497 326054 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*were < 1336623509 595266 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- heavy makes the unarmed combat a bit worse apparently??? and < 1336623512 666327 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- ev < 1336623540 709637 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336623541 869089 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff, < 1336623567 341757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336623592 885881 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: :' ( < 1336623653 672995 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those bad reasons.... if yes should i do spells maybe (im scared) < 1336623723 227917 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :spells are awesome < 1336623725 360951 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you find the right books < 1336623742 849454 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :good spells: summon butterflies, repel missiles, blink, contel teleport, animate skeleton... < 1336623764 238256 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1336623765 912180 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :animate skeleton? < 1336623774 18371 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's really good < 1336623778 349672 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if ellipticiott wants +Curse gloves? < 1336623778 416348 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you were going to butcher it anyway < 1336623778 859451 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336623781 109528 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336623785 136956 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you have an army of skeletons that can tank shit for you < 1336623790 887956 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever you can't for $reason < 1336623807 670510 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh people actually use the skeletons? < 1336623807 785457 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was doing snake:5 and my naga skeletons killed most of the rune vault for me when I ran lmao < 1336623810 309073 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do < 1336623811 13694 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1336623813 653503 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not as bad as you think < 1336623817 410732 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're about as strong as the original monster was < 1336623829 154948 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they never time out < 1336623831 380495 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be abjured < 1336623831 748768 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1336623834 460171 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been a while since i've used that sort of stuff < 1336623844 658700 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :animate dead is even better but it doesn't leave chunks < 1336623849 629096 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does becoming transparent for a moment mean < 1336623856 212029 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336623857 56960 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :darkness < 1336623866 200090 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of like simulacrum < 1336623869 215026 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can evoke it for invisibility < 1336623869 438567 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has it been nerfed? < 1336623870 822005 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool spell < 1336623875 387568 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never tried simulacrum < 1336623879 605746 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but simulacrums should be pretty powerful < 1336623883 188353 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they do ac-piercing cold < 1336623886 656446 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336623896 396787 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can go invisible??? < 1336623898 55436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get hydra chunks, you can make like a billion hydra simulacra, each with a ton of attacks which do a bunch of cold damage < 1336623899 381844 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooooooooool < 1336623902 395780 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can evoke it for invisibility < 1336623909 887501 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to leave for a while but < 1336623912 886758 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"will be back" < 1336623914 994138 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try not to die < 1336623917 8014 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :while im gonne < 1336623919 474376 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok Patashu i literally have two light armours and theres plate armour and stuff < 1336623920 537660 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on this level < 1336623923 143602 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i do < 1336623924 56082 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1336623925 503231 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :things seem < 1336623930 882216 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want spelles < 1336623933 336969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gone) < 1336623934 527222 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier to kill with light stuff having tried it for a few (short) games < 1336623937 263837 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all you're doing is training UC, atm < 1336623937 673603 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336623941 488920 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dodging and stuff might be "nice" < 1336623941 754613 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :epillepticiot < 1336623942 523190 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to make a decision on heavy vs light until later < 1336623944 976323 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336623945 629594 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on what books you find < 1336623947 336489 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont really want to like < 1336623953 16588 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do tens and tens of spells < 1336623969 86565 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill just learn a few spelles or something ;_; < 1336623972 431527 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: ok < 1336623977 504735 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so keep the light stuff on for now? < 1336623984 720872 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1336623998 215122 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go heavy if you find no useful low level spells, light if you do < 1336624001 269059 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :decide sometime mid lair I guess < 1336624017 948749 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by for now < 1336624018 586145 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1336624020 109683 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before mid lair < 1336624064 792108 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the answer < 1336624079 235149 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote an adult < 1336624082 115167 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :585) dangit I need someone who knows the answers to my problems instantly and is always around for me! I need.....an adult ;_; < 1336624084 794652 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeahg < 1336624090 119916 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but actually the reason why is < 1336624096 39725 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't gotten any unarmed fighters very far < 1336624100 757115 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1336624105 471207 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you decide between these two light armours at least < 1336624116 871281 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :take the leather armour < 1336624120 840588 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :get your armour skill to like 1 < 1336624126 971187 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pretty much gets rid of the penalties of using it < 1336624156 622195 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have 14% gdr < 1336624164 161929 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one less AC though :( < 1336624175 744411 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, your ac is that low? < 1336624180 297742 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336624182 979954 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdr probably won't even show up, then < 1336624185 76937 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go with the robe < 1336624186 288883 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336624186 895710 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336624206 38425 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336624208 790097 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually higher than it looked there < 1336624210 884641 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have my cloak too < 1336624214 993350 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's < 1336624216 552410 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not very high < 1336624231 199043 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much would i have to train armour to get that up meaningfully anyway i guess i could train it a little bit < 1336624326 271454 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omfg < 1336624327 557353 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fell from < 1336624328 980362 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :D:5 < 1336624330 172106 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to D:* < 1336624332 164604 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :D:8 < 1336624336 444370 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll liv < 1336624337 997774 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1336624346 885156 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :D:8 <-- the face i'm making right now < 1336624353 435592 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336624354 870497 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a scary quokka < 1336624359 803327 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dungeon is dangerous this deep < 1336624369 588772 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes wonderful sarcasm < 1336624378 786274 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why aren't yougoing up stairs < 1336624383 357795 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just went past a < < 1336624385 945462 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336624388 543194 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is a pushover < 1336624392 552222 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe im being too cocky < 1336624395 484558 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are < 1336624402 295810 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1336624404 142088 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool < 1336624406 551044 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a centaur and a giant eyeball < 1336624410 585788 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was better on D:8 < 1336624412 669904 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice combination < 1336624418 902454 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1336624459 507113 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1336624466 381409 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes going down shafts really blows though < 1336624473 656939 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you fall through a shaft and land on a cross level < 1336624476 173034 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously FUCK cross levels < 1336624480 994323 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross level? < 1336624485 637613 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a cross level < 1336624487 965118 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a level < 1336624489 517015 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a tiny cross < 1336624494 797276 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has monqys-crawl level monster densities < 1336624500 131607 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no good reason except because the level is so small < 1336624501 937772 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well that's not so bad < 1336624509 751495 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i deal with monqys-crawl-level monster densities all the time in monqys-crawl < 1336624511 889343 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :every level in fact < 1336624515 359486 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but < 1336624518 461448 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in monqys-crawl you're OP < 1336624521 52856 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in normal crawl you're not < 1336624542 222645 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You can now hurl Makhleb's greater destruction. < 1336624543 298195 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1336624560 128400 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah do you know the answer to < 1336624565 758663 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question i had < 1336624572 30370 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:30 how much would i have to train armour to get that up meaningfully anyway i guess i could train it a little bit < 1336624574 542398 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where that = my AC < 1336624589 343733 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way I understand it < 1336624594 417889 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :armour skill raises AC slowly unless you have high base AC < 1336624596 877101 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336624600 154497 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it laso reduces the penalty of wearing armour < 1336624614 677702 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this +2 leather armour better than my +2 robe of rC ;_; < 1336624634 290082 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is hard < 1336624644 527643 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what you're fighting < 1336624645 494519 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably < 1336624679 378036 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking knew that would happen < 1336624687 188854 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you separate a fucking pack of gnolls < 1336624691 489231 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stairdance < 1336624694 715388 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck that < 1336624696 463780 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesser servant time < 1336624698 611159 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :debuff spells < 1336624705 444769 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is that dumb) < 1336624722 158996 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336624724 946119 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :never tried makhleb < 1336624728 335317 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do What You Like < 1336624729 382051 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1336624751 32380 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow everyone abandons me < 1336624755 630643 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336624757 168912 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: help < 1336624761 95709 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP < 1336624772 559822 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :h e l p < 1336624773 370943 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1336624791 231105 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help!!!!! < 1336624807 776677 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336624809 4719 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hostile < 1336624809 364481 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336624813 109691 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stairdudes < 1336624816 960520 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect < 1336624821 121330 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now just don't go up that staircase ever < 1336624823 461462 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah uh < 1336624824 166372 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't wake that snake up either < 1336624828 519464 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i place a note thing on that level < 1336624833 547556 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget < 1336624834 578534 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's wrong with waking that snake up < 1336624834 980707 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1336624840 308475 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336624846 569685 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe you can take it < 1336624847 966444 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have rpois < 1336624858 608783 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336624860 369822 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1336624862 724674 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :makhleb is a jerk < 1336624864 713330 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and im going to train invocations < 1336624872 909210 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and armour why not < 1336624895 733415 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like i can't annotate another level < 1336625056 165289 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw throwing nets are useful < 1336625060 580780 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't net very large things but < 1336625071 911541 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a net that covers its opponent is guaranteed to keep it covered for a certain number of turns, I think 4 < 1336625076 214827 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike other things < 1336625079 213009 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1336625084 347039 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't sure if the learndb was being sarcastic about throwing nets < 1336625088 643663 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:44 throwing net[1/6]: The single most deadly weapon in existence. Yes, it's even more deadly than a sceptre of torment as a ghoul fighter. One hit could kill a well to do character. Ask Nexos. In addition to the utter annihilation of its target, it may (depending on a few factors) also cause them to become immobilized for a little while. < 1336625093 301260 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336625095 130552 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's kidding < 1336625095 821386 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336625104 277516 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't nets make it impossible to attack for the duration of being under the net < 1336625109 318223 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something ridiculous like that < 1336625112 642002 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm i have lots of hp now < 1336625120 773063 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not baf < 1336625124 547168 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might not be one shotted by hydras < 1336625140 285511 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not bad for turn 6365 < 1336625145 467676 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1336625149 245434 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :orc priest and a gnoll < 1336625152 390851 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a party designed specially for me < 1336625173 505706 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1336625176 934158 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can open doors while confused? < 1336625181 616970 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some trick < 1336625219 531972 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: oh i also have an amulet of < 1336625221 104784 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thingy < 1336625222 396932 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guardian spirit < 1336625225 877890 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have "even more effective hp" < 1336625228 996731 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(barely) < 1336625325 94793 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi duvessa; ho dowan < 1336625326 234847 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hi < 1336625332 553560 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi two orc wizards < 1336625353 584950 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1336625355 487576 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is best to kill first < 1336625370 191902 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's dowan < 1336625371 246302 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj me < 1336625414 730900 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1336625487 136610 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1336625490 176944 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not dead!! < 1336625492 405709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulationes < 1336625496 645161 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i < 1336625498 816957 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost died < 1336625501 504653 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=/ < 1336625504 708739 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see that 4 < 1336625510 779583 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the lesser servant makhleb gave me < 1336625511 151449 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336625511 972308 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hellwing < 1336625513 571916 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler < 1336625514 505612 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336625514 531741 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was hostile < 1336625515 545212 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336625516 576765 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336625517 731817 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh did you see that < 1336625518 132443 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit < 1336625519 745264 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much invo do you have < 1336625520 92675 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336625522 334958 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just < 1336625523 371580 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreeing < 1336625524 150100 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had 0 at the time < 1336625526 931997 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i have 2.6 < 1336625526 993560 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1336625529 962393 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336625533 29913 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i put an annotation on that level < 1336625533 246408 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you < 1336625534 278920 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :want invo < 1336625536 561581 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and will never visit it again ever < 1336625539 988162 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's summoned so < 1336625542 854157 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably timed out by now < 1336625546 568220 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER < 1336625547 431847 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVER < 1336625552 218640 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, eustachio < 1336625556 973108 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not durably summoned like 1s from zot traps < 1336625557 10275 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i killed duvessa + dowan < 1336625573 106440 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow eustachio weak < 1336625579 690875 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coulda been more interesting man!!! < 1336625608 699865 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336625610 773879 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :orc wizard party < 1336625635 700599 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow two robes of cold resistance i mean really < 1336625668 631522 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going spelles < 1336625680 709390 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't decided yet Patashu said to decide heavy vs. light based on what books i find < 1336625683 900925 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i am going spells then < 1336625684 704307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336625685 840963 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just be going < 1336625689 374526 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"helper spells" < 1336625690 734920 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1336625698 879703 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff to make my primary job of bashing things until they stop living easier < 1336625762 208334 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also i < 1336625763 540246 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fell down shaft < 1336625895 76226 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oop,s < 1336625921 621184 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1336625924 15757 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the opposite of what i wanted < 1336625926 767215 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj < 1336625929 168372 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just walk away < 1336625931 757384 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring betls are slow < 1336625978 338489 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336625979 128405 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1336625980 103504 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336625980 483527 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1336625987 263007 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much HP does a wand of heal wounds give you < 1336626001 61545 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:59 wand of heal wounds[1/1]: Exactly like a potion of heal wounds, except you can recharge it, it's lightweight and it won't be destroyed by cold attacks. Its healing is not based at all on evocation skill. Deep Dwarves start with one that has five charges. It's cool! < 1336626001 619855 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1336626061 647853 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1336626064 142019 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :another slow and dangerous beetle < 1336626067 215797 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY'RE SO INTERESTING < 1336626083 261802 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boulder beetles are actually kind of interesting now < 1336626086 364811 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they charge at oyu < 1336626090 857526 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never played vs one but < 1336626093 306478 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look fune < 1336626118 159752 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336626128 319023 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:02 grum[1/1]: Unique gnoll. Breeds war dogs. Will eat you! So will dogs! Wears the skin of a deceased war dog. Aw! < 1336626140 41852 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:02 @??gnoll < 1336626140 219421 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:02 gnoll (g) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal (items) | HD: 2 | HP: 8-18 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 9 | Res: magic(8) | Chunks: contam | XP: 14. < 1336626140 256290 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:02 @??grum < 1336626141 628329 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:02 Grum (g) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal (items) | HD: 4 | HP: 40 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 20 | Res: magic(16) | Chunks: contam | XP: 188. < 1336626143 625050 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1336626145 624770 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"like a gnoll but worse" < 1336626277 285806 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1336626429 724381 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yeah < 1336626433 272251 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckin' box of beasts < 1336626443 872874 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yeah < 1336626445 596487 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckin' hill giant < 1336626473 921301 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's good against hill giants < 1336626476 413078 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :makhleb ability wise < 1336626481 257908 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't going to turn on me < 1336626494 478564 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much piety do you have < 1336626500 767377 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :four pips < 1336626504 901069 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336626507 677625 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :invo skill i mean < 1336626509 348743 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.1 < 1336626520 714661 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you miught be able to use lesser servant or major destruction, uhh < 1336626534 563595 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :major destruction can "turn on you" if you're too close and get an explosion, but you're not too close < 1336626537 444986 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking major destruction yeah < 1336626539 950070 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your failrate is high < 1336626541 825956 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also have: a wand of draining < 1336626546 637838 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also a wand that i don't know what it is < 1336626549 88892 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a wand of heal wounds!!!) < 1336626550 980647 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :minor destruction might be too wimpey < 1336626555 998830 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go with major destruction i guess < 1336626572 555300 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336626577 677395 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it killed SOMETHING < 1336626581 399456 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the sort of explosion i was talking about < 1336626586 812685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the sort of explosion i was talking about < 1336626586 917085 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im clever < 1336626590 47935 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336626593 656335 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336626599 736691 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also major destruction is more powerful at higher invo skill etc etc < 1336626604 611364 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your invo is "kind of low" < 1336626604 878083 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i could go with minor destruction now < 1336626606 380993 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336626608 989469 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :claw it < 1336626609 820104 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336626614 549651 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :claw is better than minor destruction < 1336626618 959777 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336626621 31795 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really good < 1336626625 892426 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since low hp etc < 1336626628 686359 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have die!! < 1336626633 179953 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't run from centaur!! < 1336626635 237112 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more likely is: i'll die to this centaur < 1336626636 158656 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfuck into the room and close it < 1336626641 130974 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfuck into the room < 1336626644 672393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336626646 573693 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfuck into it < 1336626647 748996 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336626648 517944 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it < 1336626650 820661 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe in yourself < 1336626651 740014 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wont i like < 1336626652 105073 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :die < 1336626652 965708 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from arrows < 1336626654 523342 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the next turn < 1336626657 436880 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i dfuck into the room < 1336626658 237788 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any better ideas < 1336626666 448765 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336626667 423958 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have been better if you hadn't made that other move < 1336626673 321266 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336626674 170467 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336626676 761879 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what xl is that ghost < 1336626679 163304 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfucking: failed < 1336626682 463805 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno lets find out < 1336626686 989412 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can dfuck behind the grey thing but < 1336626691 305850 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to know the ghosts xl etc < 1336626699 912710 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xl 9 < 1336626702 969241 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/hyperelynae/morgue-hyperelynae-20120509-110358.txt < 1336626707 260472 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drac ghosts xl7 and above have draining breath < 1336626710 198874 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~have a fun~ < 1336626716 233512 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im already having a fun < 1336626717 228985 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336626725 428969 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe: zap heal wounds at myself; minor servant < 1336626735 864347 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you want to duck first < 1336626740 913710 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it will get free shots at you < 1336626741 487517 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck where < 1336626742 296685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait centaurt < 1336626743 673269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhh < 1336626746 506824 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hbehind the grey thing but < 1336626749 580373 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaur would probably get you < 1336626757 224785 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only you could apport the arrow from the doorway!! < 1336626761 515093 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only < 1336626766 176007 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uhhh < 1336626766 908607 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spell reasons) < 1336626769 918990 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to zap heal wounds at myself < 1336626772 886409 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i haven t seen books yet!! < 1336626792 355962 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336626798 981121 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1336626801 481022 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cant get drained < 1336626803 394254 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahaha < 1336626806 22936 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :siLLY ME < 1336626811 487449 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the draining breath is < 1336626812 869769 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :free turns < 1336626814 301841 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesser servant time < 1336626817 190503 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336626833 837032 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow how did i get two servants < 1336626838 127040 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might wnat another < 1336626840 295808 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a servant < 1336626843 59871 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is that < 1336626844 451393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellwing animated the hill giant < 1336626856 204374 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"problem sloved" < 1336626859 467078 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess the hell wing alone worked < 1336626883 916326 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to < 1336626884 693054 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :peek out < 1336626887 512631 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and theres going to be something horrible < 1336626889 180036 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ill duck back < 1336626889 981066 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the next < 1336626891 364671 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000 turns < 1336626947 226850 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouche < 1336626977 801104 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1336626983 649227 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's favourite spell!!!! < 1336626990 903881 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh so < 1336626996 105836 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are any of these worth learning right now < 1336626998 370173 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i were going spelles < 1336627024 896060 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"spells : new to me" < 1336627160 764587 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1336627164 974018 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh uh < 1336627166 696767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :conjurations < 1336627167 45617 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1336627167 560029 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1336627171 86103 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"get meph" (laughs) < 1336627175 780810 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i even its level 3 < 1336627177 860164 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what the levels mean < 1336627180 189907 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly i'm not a fan of the conjurations school < 1336627182 828231 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1336627184 467436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ehhh < 1336627187 231255 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by ehh i mean < 1336627189 156060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don';t like it < 1336627190 549787 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not fun < 1336627195 924421 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's powerful and all but < 1336627197 346425 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i know magic dart is < 1336627198 467944 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzzz < 1336627201 653584 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my "cup of tea" < 1336627207 483229 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah this is boring me IM DONE WITH YOU OCNJURATIONS < 1336627212 457364 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically conjurations is magic dart x100000000000000000000000 < 1336627219 365481 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for some oddballs < 1336627227 405754 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like meph < 1336627228 392866 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what they can't follow me downstairs!! < 1336627233 398521 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint the oddballs are worse than the magic darts < 1336627245 309512 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by worse i mean < 1336627247 380843 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz'er < 1336627271 609622 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336627279 42360 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336627286 808128 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ducking might be hard < 1336627295 73075 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow im fucked < 1336627295 710720 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no what are you doing < 1336627298 793419 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to < 1336627299 784098 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chokepoint < 1336627300 656427 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :centaurs < 1336627301 141862 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be able to major destruction all of them < 1336627302 347545 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336627303 935089 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336627304 27376 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesnt work < 1336627305 166075 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1336627306 782868 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1336627309 715523 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why did you do it < 1336627315 777296 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :panicke < 1336627323 682027 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i can < 1336627324 440965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might wnat to heal < 1336627325 774785 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck behind that corner < 1336627328 80776 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336627339 127905 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sighe < 1336627343 572750 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blinke perhaps < 1336627347 391011 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you could bliking mabye < 1336627349 120893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mAYBE) < 1336627351 368160 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"where to" laughs < 1336627353 473036 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might not be able to get out of los < 1336627371 1509 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe quaff levitation < 1336627398 868246 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(its a joke) < 1336627413 407532 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right the other reason besides "i like it more" for having chebyshev/manhattan los in some fassion is it's easier to calculate for players so they can know if they'll be out of los of something by ducking or w/e < 1336627425 428941 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :righte < 1336627430 147391 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeh < 1336627431 568514 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since like in crawl i never know if i'll actually be out of los of something it's just intuition < 1336627436 386010 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i blink here < 1336627442 78245 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be out of los of a few of them < 1336627445 10654 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might live < 1336627449 960337 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prbabbly your best bet tho < 1336627455 563889 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336627458 815117 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :teleport < 1336627463 56688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or duck and heal < 1336627467 718183 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont have teleport < 1336627472 978821 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't < 1336627473 664963 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336627478 533063 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so i do < 1336627484 749273 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336627495 924466 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to have to < 1336627499 858151 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff curing for the hp ;_; < 1336627503 682200 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep it around and recharge it when you get the chance < 1336627508 383323 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the wand) < 1336627522 843626 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1336627527 266400 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1336627528 522183 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game loves me < 1336627532 660189 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :summon some servants < 1336627543 449389 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesser? < 1336627546 809015 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336627565 806290 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhhhh < 1336627574 85115 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :u < 1336627577 394325 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336627580 628570 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336627584 248175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ne) < 1336627587 120351 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the giant eyeball stares me < 1336627588 646659 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336627589 696436 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :paralyses < 1336627591 640009 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i die to killer bee < 1336627599 45679 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any other choices? < 1336627599 569541 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336627613 21863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you stay there the para will be worse since more bees will be hitting you < 1336627617 424772 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to < 1336627619 461934 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff curing < 1336627620 239550 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336627620 764661 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336627631 735562 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to get rid of the eyeball, u then destruction it < 1336627637 509986 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336627639 365966 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i survived para < 1336627640 895402 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wand it < 1336627652 223528 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336627653 588816 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something it < 1336627667 521826 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more servants and let them meatshield you from the bees < 1336627667 646228 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could destruction it now but < 1336627670 615733 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :might die to bees < 1336627670 634584 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just spam them < 1336627679 4551 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336627688 270254 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm in too compromising a position to establish a shield of meat < 1336627713 574910 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336627717 227518 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd have to lesser destruction the eyeball since < 1336627718 156765 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fireball < 1336627754 621120 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336627783 569949 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong choice < 1336627813 159776 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1336627833 610182 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blinking < 1336627842 703330 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do btw i wasnt watching < 1336627869 455118 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :first i < 1336627873 754054 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :minor destructioned the eyeball < 1336627875 899132 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(didnt help much) < 1336627879 853866 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i was low on hp so curing < 1336627888 962271 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it didn't help so i think i attacked right or something < 1336627891 393885 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i curinged again < 1336627895 60461 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway then i summoned another servant < 1336627897 295617 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i have 1 hp < 1336627904 807176 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here? < 1336627914 982586 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336627918 270404 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here or < 1336627919 132767 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :down there < 1336627930 681957 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not there < 1336627933 270629 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe down < 1336627954 160485 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of bee proximity < 1336627960 1155 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :up and eyeball < 1336627965 790347 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1336627970 305034 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336627971 339315 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336627976 217094 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i oopsed my messages together < 1336627981 395395 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erase the up < 1336627982 610266 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway uh < 1336628000 169744 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either blink or heal or servants or use a bolt wand the bees < 1336628009 272427 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't use anything that can explode or you'll anger your ynoxinum < 1336628013 497936 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a < 1336628014 861686 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :draining works < 1336628015 116044 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wand of draining < 1336628022 859279 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, eyeball. < 1336628025 567610 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aim such that it hits all the bees and the eyeball < 1336628034 367509 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :draining will pass harmlessly through demons < 1336628035 430712 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what again? i was going to quaff curing at this point < 1336628036 791231 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it ideal < 1336628041 677893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wand again < 1336628045 856325 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get rid of the eyeball < 1336628059 324982 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really want rid of and these bees are sorta < 1336628063 955631 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :approaching < 1336628070 517863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun w/ para < 1336628087 431090 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1336628105 415515 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok what < 1336628107 145071 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr8 < 1336628127 408893 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow how the fuck did i survive that < 1336628129 824273 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might want to heal < 1336628148 839753 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok your lifeline is gone < 1336628152 978195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe try wanding again < 1336628153 816640 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow how can killer bees not succumb to ynonxinuls they're 3s < 1336628178 600113 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by lifeline i mean the ufetubus. i guess the ynoxinuls are also distracting them < 1336628191 255308 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill < 1336628194 375140 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zab the eyeball again i guess < 1336628202 528074 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully it won't miss this time < 1336628203 81529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1336628203 167090 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1336628211 855981 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow these bees < 1336628232 835957 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1336628241 128871 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'll drain the bees again < 1336628252 948679 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't seem to be moving < 1336628267 300207 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1336628272 510344 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336628278 387849 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have enough hp to just bash them < 1336628279 733522 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bees are dodgy < 1336628283 899862 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might < 1336628288 264833 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for the deader bee < 1336628289 48297 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im rpois tho < 1336628295 514191 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bees hit hard < 1336628296 966046 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the deader one is the yellow one right < 1336628299 368645 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have low ac < 1336628302 871293 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1336628310 556964 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by hit hard i mean < 1336628310 915022 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1336628319 248528 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they hit a lot, and decently strongly < 1336628331 41993 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat some bee < 1336628333 799567 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1336628342 681621 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this bee is for eating when the centaurs come again < 1336628356 763994 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you'll bee in a better position < 1336628369 675758 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just one cent- ohhhh < 1336628377 51626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck < 1336628387 240410 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336628391 122032 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did it go < 1336628393 683857 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take the down road < 1336628398 896043 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :up road is centaur territory < 1336628401 864394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back up < 1336628405 998387 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i know < 1336628412 773315 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok < 1336628417 811193 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spd 10 so... not using major destruction on this guy < 1336628419 208278 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336628419 967793 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i coudl < 1336628421 317348 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*could < 1336628422 351945 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd hurt < 1336628425 505134 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like exploding yourself < 1336628430 583649 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a servant < 1336628431 620139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will your character be eye next time? No hand, just eye so that you are limited in unable to wear anything and so on,,,...,,...,,,,,,...,,.....,..,,, < 1336628436 971503 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or backpedal, hatch, and try again later < 1336628439 911295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watched Kaiji show today. < 1336628447 864910 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks neqoxec < 1336628450 579135 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were a real pal < 1336628481 608555 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if just an eye, make friends with hand. maybe you can coordinate something. < 1336628489 179999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In E Card, it is not permitted to just select a card from your hand at random; you have to decide which card to play. How can they possibly enforce that rule? < 1336628510 645881 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you know: meleeing hill giants is a bad idea even after you've weakened them < 1336628512 471419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: O, yes. But you have to do so later in the game, not just at the start (unless you start with such a spell) < 1336628545 581335 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i really need < 1336628546 348823 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spells < 1336628557 568925 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wand of hand-eye coordination < 1336628563 575649 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1336628587 729963 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336628589 321724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellipticiott: Which one? Curse item? Uncurse item? Rotate dungeon layout? < 1336628616 238370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any of these spells exist in this game? < 1336628617 329273 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hellwing v. hill giant who wins < 1336628635 748847 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the first two do (well, (un)curse jewellery/armour/etc.) < 1336628712 189090 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellipticiott: you could fire draining through the helwing if you're really concerned < 1336628719 863206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no curse item spell in ADOM (although it is possible to use other items to curse other items); if I make up some game there should be such a spells < 1336628735 605118 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well im on a stair to the orcish mines so i could just party on orc:1 for a bit if i really wanted to avoid this situation < 1336628748 353312 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt my wand of draining will last much longer and there are multiple hill giants around so < 1336628770 129980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another spell there should be is one, during the spell's duration, allows the target to make knight moves but disallow from making king moves < 1336628785 663154 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that was easy enough < 1336628815 238255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they have surveillance traps? Or, any other kind of traps, in this game? < 1336628887 667330 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yake < 1336628888 690007 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehh < 1336628892 92950 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can probably take yaks on at this point i guess < 1336628895 238003 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're weaker than hill giants right < 1336628958 21693 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they are < 1336628960 496902 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh there's three of them < 1336629019 143399 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the part where i get myself into trouble < 1336629073 391032 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably take the yaks if you choke them < 1336629093 514626 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:51 <|amethyst> ellipticiott: thanks for mentioning the thing about !, fixed in trunk (commit message should come shortly) < 1336629094 357425 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1336629095 902425 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've lead to < 1336629097 893630 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UI improvements in crawl < 1336629110 78523 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to the club < 1336629113 155288 :ellipticiott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1336629119 699359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336629124 461940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i had a chokepoint but < 1336629126 577356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost hp so < 1336629133 978101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill go for that chokepoint on the left of the map < 1336629138 214224 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lost hp killing the skeleetone < 1336629146 979393 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could go around that bend < 1336629151 490197 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the one below you) < 1336629164 676515 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bam, hp on kills < 1336629165 211865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1336629166 443025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp on kills < 1336629166 801535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336629173 472426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the makhleb life < 1336629223 296845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1336629254 604188 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if anyone told you but you can also annotate a level you aren't on if you';re standing on the corresponding staircase < 1336629260 432400 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the/a < 1336629265 912952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1336629269 679020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i just annotated it with < 1336629270 169302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xmap < 1336629272 737249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thanks < 1336629281 669469 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336629283 221715 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1336629284 1520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that was < 1336629285 16181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb < 1336629290 263496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1336629298 201640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot you can't chokepoint them < 1336629309 538759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to hate slime creatures but they're too clever for me to < 1336629322 473576 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not such a good idea for you to be fighting them at that hp anyway < 1336629331 409026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'll run up another staircase < 1336629334 694669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336629336 309990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a servant next time < 1336629342 213022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1336629343 402691 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh < 1336629345 775774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a corridor < 1336629347 422660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where there was none < 1336629348 316483 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you go that way < 1336629351 796672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336629352 350918 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirage < 1336629354 182341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to get to the green < < 1336629355 13851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336629373 114763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come onnnnn < 1336629379 394401 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what i meant with the proably not such a agreat idea < 1336629407 724132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said "them" plural!!! < 1336629413 303586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway time to quaff curing again like a moron < 1336629418 500566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1336629423 743003 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats why curing is moronic < 1336629425 116854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1336629456 489158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only ever feel two things when playing crawl < 1336629462 201312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wow this is so boring when do i get to the fun stuff" < 1336629470 45396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh man how did i get down all the way here i'm way out of my league and about to die" < 1336629487 290128 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you fixed monqys-crawl yet < 1336629497 980025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336629498 953434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1336629500 529355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i do < 1336629501 711673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :run? < 1336629518 343086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's speed 10 but MAYBE IT'LL GET A RANDOM MOVE THING AND FALL BEHIND ME) < 1336629559 544685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pillar dans foer ever" < 1336629563 900081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also have < 1336629566 475319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336629567 852500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think < 1336629568 752091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slimy pink < 1336629569 571813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pink < 1336629570 891698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hw < 1336629608 769196 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at a certain point, especially as a ghoul where you dont get such adverse effects from potionms and you dont have to worry about conserving cmut, it's better to quaffid your stacks than wait for scrolls < 1336629618 557291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336629621 332675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336629628 781825 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for the future" reference < 1336629631 353841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point i need to quaff id when quaff iding the wrong one will result in < 1336629632 67825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deth < 1336629632 888427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336629636 87519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need your psychic < 1336629638 427873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ness < 1336629645 890790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhhh < 1336629646 556780 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336629648 535005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i could drain it < 1336629652 322124 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336629654 388218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it has lots of hp < 1336629655 494281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind them < 1336629656 465793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1336629657 844236 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw slime creitters regen quickly < 1336629660 257789 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe youve noticed < 1336629664 970781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i have thanks < 1336629673 297310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe box of beasts < 1336629706 594316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: throwing net ???? < 1336629760 825369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uhhhh < 1336629766 100211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i either quaff id a potion or zap id a wand i guess < 1336629804 10330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :righto < 1336629805 131193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336629810 333178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: if im agile maybe i can outrun it??? < 1336629812 728742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to < 1336629814 592775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the previous level < 1336629829 995041 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agility doesnt incres yr sped sorey < 1336629834 626306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what does it do then < 1336629840 90809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:03 agility[1/1]: Provides temporary Dex, EV, and stealth bonuses. < 1336629840 577197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1336629843 701761 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bend space (laughes lauchges) < 1336629849 501863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :laughes < 1336629853 660524 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :step from time (lmaueo) < 1336629857 882919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe go invisible !!! < 1336629863 977225 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(raoeufl) < 1336629882 445834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:( < 1336629888 868943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame the id game < 1336629979 207241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is annoying < 1336629983 592144 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336630036 793567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill play again < 1336630037 698333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sleep < 1336630078 872799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: anyway the problem with running away is that < 1336630079 817582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard < 1336630083 921082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because things follow you < 1336630100 772347 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is to < 1336630108 928638 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :run away before things get you in trouble < 1336630117 40188 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not charge into things etc < 1336630131 382289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336630438 72208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1336630441 469138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite the dying thing < 1336630450 294768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll stick with light armour + try some spelles in future < 1336630471 182427 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336630475 121904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone help me with worshipping Lugonu.(Abysmal Knight) (self.roguelikes) < 1336630478 277419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :abysmal knight < 1336630660 483939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/55fed8025e64a3ba584cfe6c0c6a7444bf655045 < 1336630661 722557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"my commit" < 1336631203 395585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does hiding certain functions from exporting in GHC cause it to optimize them in more ways than exported functions would be? < 1336631264 968179 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the not-text-based roguelike that I only know of because it had an autopackage thingy? < 1336631280 184360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know < 1336631292 744178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :waht is autoacpkaage < 1336631320 720112 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopackage < 1336631395 971581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336631414 670092 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found it! < 1336631417 434907 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the game) < 1336631417 954431 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scourgeweb.org/tiki-index.php < 1336631422 291821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336631430 178354 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never managed to play it, graphics requirements too high < 1336631443 65652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jenna, 02:54 EDT, Fri 27 of Apr., 2012: dresses for wedding guest plus size cocktail dress beautiful wedding dresses flower girl dresses uk cheap bridesmaid dress short white dresses < 1336631519 771101 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think the version I tried was just S.C.O.U.R.G.E. < 1336631531 896855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "For best results, use an explicit export list. If you do, GHC can inline any non-exported functions that are only called once, even if they are very big." < 1336631552 969056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Performance/GHC < 1336631577 812741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is that the only thing it can do? Can it do other things such as omit patterns which it knows are unused? < 1336631638 940422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't know, that's what i found by googling. i guess if it is inlined, it can probably also omit patterns. < 1336631656 900232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Back in '77 I worked with Steve Bourne on /bin/sh (little known fact: like awk, sh was named for its inventors, 'S' for Steve and 'H' for Humbert) and was responsible for the 'done' keyword." And now you're paying penance by saying incorrect things about Stack Overflow questions about Haskell!!!!! < 1336631696 124626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it seems inlining requires the function to be non-recursive, even then. < 1336631698 585089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean, for example, it is used many times but always with the first parameter 0 then it could simplify by omitting that part from the module < 1336631732 622294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1336631771 559422 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got my check from Knuth! < 1336631783 474867 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exciting, eh???? < 1336631789 183652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1336631791 291500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Does it work? < 1336631801 391345 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: For depositing? I doubt it. < 1336631807 882852 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lacks a routing number, for one. < 1336631817 966957 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so they're ceremonial now? < 1336631825 275430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he makes them out to a fake bank, iirc < 1336631832 381704 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean physically ceremonial) < 1336631843 686856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you _can_ get a real one if you insist, no one does. < 1336631874 383680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't give real ones out any more, iirc. < 1336631875 928671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you insist. < 1336631888 922500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1336631891 520940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Knuth had to stop sending real checks in 2008 due to bank fraud" < 1336631945 403618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will he pay you in cash if you go to his office? < 1336631948 403933 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the part where elliott is simultaneously reading my messages and pretending I don't exist. < 1336631958 363930 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: He says something along those lines on his website. < 1336631966 698995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with a printout of the letter, in case it is due to a letter you received from him) < 1336631971 333463 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On the other hand, I don't like to renege on promises, so I shall do my best to find a suitable way to send money to anyone who really prefers legal tender." < 1336632107 204327 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....Oh < 1336632120 95254 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always though the amount was for approx. e dollars < 1336632125 341401 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whats at self < 1336632143 576092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336632401 471798 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336632401 529587 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336632401 529738 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336632586 303932 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336632955 754407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1336633034 5379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you know almost every ??crawl entry is bad < 1336633100 229447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:58 i think the next crawl variant needs to replace getting the orb of zot with installing gentoo for the first time < 1336633102 428109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: monqys-crawl < 1336633105 713635 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336633116 7854 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336633131 380915 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus20 < 1336633145 474175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent read ??crawl < 1336633153 798950 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it any good < 1336633161 682965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy < 1336633168 946263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :selected enteries < 1336633170 10195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:56 crawl[4/20]: press "o" to win crawltards < 1336633174 906931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:56 crawl[5/20]: Crawl sort of makes me want to be an art thief or something. < 1336633182 119457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:56 crawl[12/20]: ...basically taking advantage of mental illness < 1336633185 497103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:56 crawl[13/20]: ヽ(メ˃Д˂)シ ≡⌨ < 1336633190 407294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:56 crawl[14/20]: [08:49] more sexy than nethack! < 1336633191 876806 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whiche bot gives me ?? entries in ##crawl¿¿¿¿¿¿ < 1336633197 570158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:56 crawl[17/20]: I suppose Crawl is one of those games that make you want to fuck centaurs < 1336633229 823821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: anyway what's cang ;_; < 1336633234 23684 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1336633236 279755 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cang < 1336633247 227491 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the oldest injoke in the book and nobody knows how it happened < 1336633262 432829 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo "injoke" < 1336633270 110853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1336633271 698335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can < 1336633272 182844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1336633272 786931 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone who was inside it died? < 1336633274 693198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cang < 1336633275 462195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336633276 283186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-g line < 1336633303 744265 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it now drifts through memespace orphaned < 1336633368 65061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ETc<. < 1336633408 144895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is mong like monqy < 1336633413 367531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasionally i see mong and im like < 1336633414 360972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh its monq < 1336633414 764578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1336633416 502193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its not monqy < 1336633486 161303 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336633494 314529 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336633544 909979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :( < 1336633613 251416 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1336633637 162664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is mong like monqy though : / < 1336633641 115653 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1336633643 740071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i just treat you as one < 1336633648 459986 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336633648 918247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well nobody is like monqy i guess < 1336633655 396860 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wait are you mong now < 1336633658 514390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: If you are Prime Minister of Klopstokia, will you make it illegal to be late for meetings? Will you remove the words "I don't want" from the dictionary? < 1336633671 894761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336633710 512646 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336633720 474147 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i aske a questione will elliott answere it indirectly < 1336633729 192335 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1336633786 870467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :syraines tepr guide is good < 1336633793 383897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a much better entry than ??crawl < 1336633825 775545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:08 mikee_: i wrote syraines tepr guide and i have never played a tepr < 1336633829 340300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is chapayev syraine < 1336633831 749297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crawl is so confusinge < 1336633873 836231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=583&view=next I'm pretty confident I'm missing the point here but can someone tell me what exactly this "cang" meme is about? < 1336633899 614441 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop that < 1336633904 164039 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ancient < 1336633907 232817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- e is euler's number and is supposedly a Pretty Big Deal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant) < 1336633907 408013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- pi is also an important mathematical constant to do with circles and whatnot < 1336633911 282925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah that thread was pretty hilarious < 1336633912 462683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks danr < 1336633925 644324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure all this with the name "cang" adds up to one hilarious joke for those cool enough to be in the know, but so far it has only irritated me. < 1336633928 58121 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was before minmay did irc < 1336633932 731651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow tavern people are irritable < 1336633935 108911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336633937 232692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tavern person < 1336633953 175933 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1336633958 474422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :danr < 1336633961 119630 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1336633961 721715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who i was just < 1336633962 362364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoting < 1336633964 91012 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like danr < 1336633976 117234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "proprietor" mean they run it < 1336633995 694035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah he started the tavern project < 1336634020 161010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"project" < 1336634043 818499 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"""project""" < 1336634048 37589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :``project'' < 1336634056 321454 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo they were aligned < 1336634057 66704 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `project'': not found < 1336634060 742316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336634066 109401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont use < 1336634067 345775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monospaced < 1336634070 364574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fonts on irc < 1336634070 820989 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336634079 727457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to rebel some way monqy < 1336634084 100463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it wasn't proportional fonts for irc < 1336634090 170416 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you use comic sans, right? < 1336634095 139942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be drugs and slavery :( < 1336634133 625798 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think slavery is not very rebellious < 1336634148 179045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :adults just can't understand < 1336634202 206044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:13 !learn add trcj_guide Your landlord already thinks you're a deadbeat and now you're blasting holes in the walls. You shout in anger and frustration and hurl your spellbook into the kitchen sink in a fit of adolescent rage, then you dump your coffee over its pages. < 1336634208 440560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: its too gritty i cant handle it help!!! < 1336634295 715314 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336634320 69779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4&p=4#p4 < 1336634346 450437 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336634645 429772 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There needs to be an IRC channel for Barbu < 1336634663 765091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!learn add cheiwalking see {crawl} < 1336634669 916093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: funey joekse % < 1336634673 305382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that % is meant to be a ^ < 1336634857 886354 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover I should be able to comfortably host W:A games now < 1336634858 15057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336634884 893889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you laughing < 1336634964 690995 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336634978 779691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was funnier when ??chei-walking had just been done in ##crawl < 1336635076 405074 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :New way to spell (>>=): >≥ < 1336635081 620971 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, »= < 1336635092 300355 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But But >≥ is better. < 1336635110 439477 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336635121 283824 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe >≧? < 1336635130 697080 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I guess that would be >>== < 1336635133 909216 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION to sleep < 1336635157 646472 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336635202 598794 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course it would be ≫= if anything.) < 1336635267 315303 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336635330 363364 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336636348 32286 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336636363 540210 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336636383 595878 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :»= < 1336636476 940408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:52 conj is good < 1336636478 362232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help. < 1336636557 855448 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what you mean by good < 1336636598 408358 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people in ##crawl like boring awful things < 1336636608 726300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a strange channel < 1336636628 64645 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :/win 16 < 1336637732 877863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336637733 849465 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Thu May 10 01:15:33 2012 < 1336637735 657552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336637937 426744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help. < 1336638519 111652 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336638698 790349 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help elliott and Ngevd UPDATE < 1336638721 372050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1336638725 873025 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo thanks! < 1336638731 696678 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, yw < 1336639244 489766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Howseyruo roguel iek < 1336639249 20516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :———— A doctor . < 1336639264 178313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :—(!*·‚·) < 1336639268 6405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i accidentally created a face < 1336639270 996428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :—(!*•‚•) < 1336639273 509995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :—(!*°‚°) < 1336639275 924164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im new faces < 1336639301 150635 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, face < 1336639311 315297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o~o < 1336639326 384081 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, BEING REWRITTEN IN HTML+JAVASCRIPT FOR PURPOSES YOU ARE NOT WONT TO KNOW < 1336639336 82185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: begin < 1336639337 626346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shaming < 1336639345 878397 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: sham < 1336639347 95334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1336639349 913833 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: why? < 1336639352 175589 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to know now < 1336639355 676542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sham < 1336639360 917751 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you are not wont to know! < 1336639375 169336 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to know how much more i should be shameing you < 1336639379 792991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shaming < 1336639381 127660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336639381 601911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336639383 881922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made it correct by mistake < 1336639400 28332 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, I write programs on windows and I couldn't it working on haskell in windows < 1336639406 453169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude its < 1336639407 814604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing to bother < 1336639408 796759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just < 1336639411 577763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :install the haskel, pl < 1336639412 166187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336639412 785644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1336639414 439325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses < 1336639416 438475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pah < 1336639418 440326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :youuore terible < 1336639419 600545 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses indeed < 1336639421 963709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maximum shameing < 1336639426 497451 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximum shameing < 1336639452 862440 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why so many short lines ... < 1336639456 370487 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should start speaking in sentences? < 1336639466 146646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: reassign the sham < 1336639483 330224 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, I'm leaving < 1336639508 167463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok we can shame you from afar < 1336639509 322270 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sham for all; free sham today < 1336639510 553954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*afare < 1336639514 212813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i have the shams < 1336639517 493191 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 99 cents < 1336639528 112790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usd) < 1336639547 284595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 cents in US dollars? < 1336639556 811094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they also free :( < 1336639559 459341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the worst christmas ever < 1336639616 865441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336639618 776172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Thu May 10 01:46:57 2012 < 1336639619 636551 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so bad it's in may < 1336639623 194585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: happy 01:46:57 < 1336639625 163240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened, christmas < 1336639625 853913 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336639627 892382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes sometimes christmas gets earlier the worse it is < 1336639637 958084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :christmas in january "probably what we'll be having after the apocalypse" < 1336639648 990602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means we get two christmases within a month this year!!! < 1336639653 968332 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghosts only no people alowed < 1336639657 837084 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke's ghosts are people too < 1336639658 627247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apocalypse: not so bad < 1336639659 580874 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is dead < 1336639665 231126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: *jerk's < 1336639736 521645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you remember when santa existed :( < 1336639774 543564 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no D: < 1336639798 90439 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: low battery < 1336639812 686630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: low battery < 1336639822 498799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow low battery < 1336639822 976476 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2l3o4w5 6b7a8t9t2e3r4y < 1336639835 508454 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lowe batere < 1336639845 62962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :youore time on this earth is running out monqy !!! < 1336639850 768647 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1336639863 440064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no coming back after the battery runs out ! < 1336639921 448847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also yuore going to explode too < 1336639929 755631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want to explod < 1336639934 627925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tough" < 1336639937 229716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- god < 1336639987 976539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: be also ready to stomach. < 1336640328 990171 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-115-216.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336640348 807733 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-155-31.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336640629 970282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy wasn't ready to stomach. < 1336640646 543205 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'[ < 1336640832 852008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow, battery. < 1336640858 858756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome fizzie. u 2 will be discarded by the evisceration as monqy ceases to sustain the universe < 1336641055 641782 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-133-6.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336641088 344923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi i woke up < 1336641106 643943 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helllllo < 1336641111 717064 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you tyred < 1336641121 912310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very < 1336641126 957801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a dream about a horse who wouldn't go away < 1336641132 865391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :his name was eliot : / < 1336641189 12609 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-155-31.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336641205 239845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he didn't have any hands, so it was ok to be mean to him < 1336641234 447197 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how peculiar < 1336641242 476910 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do horses usually have hands < 1336641258 864113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the time < 1336641263 681899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not on sunday < 1336641341 597686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey tane.us got more pages!!! < 1336641348 966630 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1336641350 689328 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love tane < 1336641367 836318 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tane.us/spacedog.html < 1336641389 659960 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a secret page < 1336641395 213710 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres another secret page i forget where it is < 1336641402 632589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a perfect simulator of me < 1336641409 176448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just press the spacebar erratically < 1336641785 741366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: attn. i added 2 and 2 and got monqy. are you responsible for this < 1336641800 915816 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-153-52.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336641804 853361 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know D: < 1336641823 269761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do not have any of the answers monqy do you < 1336641831 172827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is okay ; i too lack the answers ? < 1336641905 972474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true secret in this world is that there are no answers monqy < 1336641927 479423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:15 EXECUTIVE DECISION, ILLL BE BACK EITHER MORE SOBER OR UNABLE TO SEE. < 1336641927 655093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:15 Either way, I am ascending. < 1336641927 673224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:15 anubisbafoobis has left IRC (Quit: Page closed) < 1336641968 274571 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-133-6.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336641973 711760 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know about him is one time he was starving and died of starvation on the turn he bought out an entire food shop < 1336641980 592876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1336642118 273403 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-153-52.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336642802 726675 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-235-83.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336644004 162873 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD9585D.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336644113 390144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1336644115 243357 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Thu May 10 03:01:53 2012 < 1336644118 314584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: happy 03:01:53 < 1336644132 469831 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336644140 618420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sad yet < 1336644148 569644 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to be a sleep < 1336644170 858190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not possible < 1336644418 287057 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336644448 814538 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1336644456 529037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1336644458 189491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy stopped < 1336644459 759382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all gone < 1336644620 238526 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223202.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336644728 225330 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now would be a bad a time as any to formulate the rules to an xkcd drinking game < 1336644934 237404 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336644978 848038 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336645014 653059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what happens when monqy stops being in charge of these things < 1336645020 778039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no limits on the depravity we will reach god help us < 1336645328 275397 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336645926 928310 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336645932 614002 :Deewiant_!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi NICK :Deewiant < 1336646018 552951 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336646025 197691 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336646062 792905 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, goodbye < 1336646064 2225 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1336646121 859655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336647122 980310 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336647134 23626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336647359 553393 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-0-81.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1336647653 108876 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ minecraft world: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120312.html < 1336647792 462321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1336647800 435761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1336647806 320834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1336647829 743562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so I reached level 22 in Brogue last night < 1336647834 783700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the Amulet of Yendor is on 26) < 1336647841 849950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've seen almost all the monsters in the game now < 1336647842 258358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, you're getting addicted, aren't you < 1336647847 14140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1336647855 399725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite a quick game, that only took about 3 hours of play < 1336647858 272606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats, anyway < 1336647862 325113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's wrt all the attempts < 1336647870 750118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think quickness is a good thing in a roguelike < 1336647880 64321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got killed by an allied troll because I didn't realise it had been discorded < 1336647880 385898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since usually all that changes is less repetition of the same stuff < 1336647971 893714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brogue actually makes Crawl's thing of "you have to do with the items you find" actually /work/, when previously I'd have said it was a really stupid idea < 1336647979 707910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't work in Crawl, though, because it has a character selection screen < 1336648001 546337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, as opposed to what? < 1336648011 693160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, what can you have other than "you have to do with the items you find"? < 1336648051 352399 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Brogue you select your character after you start playing (with ♪oE), so that it's going to be compatible with the items you find < 1336648062 711103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like races/classes, personally; it's nice to have inherently different aptitudes and abilities to make things interesting < 1336648067 802985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if items are a large part of character-building < 1336648083 256536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and say, in NetHack, if you want to play a particular sort of character you can typically actively go out and gain the items you need to do that < 1336648094 557687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the Castle wand or polypiling or branch rewards < 1336648120 59522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl does this to some extent with shops, but not with anything else < 1336648145 742677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I like the use of randomness for character building < 1336648147 267628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Brogue does it with key reward rooms sometimes, but that mostly just gives enough flexibility to create a consistent character, rather than a particular character you wanted to play < 1336648161 186801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl tries to do that with the draconian colour thing; apparently it doesn't work too well < 1336648214 239779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't work too well /because/ it doesn't give you the opportunity to build around your character < 1336648231 592243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, my solidifying opinion on Crawl is that it's a bad game, but fun to play < 1336648233 638095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say you become a draconian who's really good at casting fire spells, that's pointless unless you happened to start FE or find a book of fire < 1336648248 579945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could play atheist until your color changed and then pick an appropriate god < 1336648252 293647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and whining about its numerous flaws is part of that fun < 1336648259 247039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's going to be problematic < 1336648274 765159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what I heard was that it's ineffective bceause the colours barely mean anything < 1336648281 22163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people just keep doing what they were doing < 1336648293 730663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to, because if they did mean something the game would be unplayable < 1336648331 413199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I'm now responsible for a commit to Crawl happening :( < 1336648335 302485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no way out now" < 1336648343 955343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1336648349 890949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/55fed8025e64a3ba584cfe6c0c6a7444bf655045 < 1336648352 74475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm responsible for a commit to Crawl happening too < 1336648353 294436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(needs JS) < 1336648373 302930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have JS enabled for gitorious already, it seems < 1336648376 958965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but IIRC it isn't needed for those pages < 1336648377 862604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked how to annotate levels you're not on, and whether ! in the Xmap does it; answer is yes, and I said I wasn't sure because it used the same prompt as it would for annotating the current level < 1336648379 622004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to change branch < 1336648385 494466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so |amethyst fixed it < 1336648388 352722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(within minutes) < 1336648409 158599 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336648417 946138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think JS /is/ needed for that page, because it starts off with a "hey, this page needs JS!" message and no diff < 1336648420 253944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the diff appears < 1336648426 340189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1336648504 510983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hypothesis: almost any roguelike would be fun to play as long as it (a) has an interface as polished as Crawl's, and (b) has a lot of different stuff < 1336648508 513796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stuff in it < 1336648576 660075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, what LOS do you like? (in general) < 1336648581 23937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you allow "more polished than Crawl's"? < 1336648595 859470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think I like NetHack/Brogue-style LOS the best < 1336648606 839139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, although I'm sceptical of the implicit claim that any roguelike has a more polished interface than Crawl right now < 1336648613 141971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Brogue's is more polished in the sense that it's pretty < 1336648615 920357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it works better in NetHack than in Brogue, it doesn't interact too well with pits < 1336648619 908802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in the sense that it can keep track of a bunch of stuff for you < 1336648632 97928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't like being able to see through walls < 1336648633 940541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I care about things like consistency, and lag resistance < 1336648645 365418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't see through walls in NetHack or Brogue, unless they happen to be transparent < 1336648662 174702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm, indeed < 1336648664 881268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's a kind of LOS < 1336648666 638585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just an unrealistic one < 1336648673 330009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, different question: what kind of targeting to you like? < 1336648674 742079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*do you < 1336648685 486631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it depends on what you want from your combat < 1336648703 371771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ranged targeting, that is; or even not combat at all < 1336648705 973405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider blinking, etc. < 1336648710 81342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Animist is going to use 8-direction targeting like NetHack, but where many spells are homing so you can hit things that aren't on the diagonals < 1336648714 431803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, blinking isn't really relevant < 1336648729 294537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah i can't abide by "you can only fire hjklyubn" < 1336648735 588422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is in Brogue, you can choose direction not distance so you have to aim at a wall < 1336648738 843719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just ridiculous that something can avoid being attacked by standing one direction below < 1336648746 669199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if they're practically right next to you < 1336648750 734688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*one tile below < 1336648755 715546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's nice on the interface, at least, and for magic it actually makes flavour sense (the words of the spell determine the direction) < 1336648761 3389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'll be back later, /away < 1336649431 668435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336649961 465227 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336649978 616533 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336650265 536247 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've messed up my laptop again... < 1336650748 590862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336650795 456677 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why I shouldn't be allowed to upgrade things < 1336650909 606855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, id Software is pronounced as in the word id, not as in eye-dee software. < 1336650939 555693 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knew? < 1336650961 161422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not I. < 1336651058 26939 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-246.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336651064 531066 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336651939 609100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336651941 326801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1336652077 425574 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336652208 48558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336652261 488213 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336652291 563016 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"error: unknown filesystem; grub rescue>": please advise < 1336652331 649984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336652334 957097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're fucked\ < 1336652339 565389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-\ < 1336652347 599946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1336652348 271924 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-235-83.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336652380 386804 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I attempted to install Ubuntu 12.04 < 1336652390 31431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :over what < 1336652396 963461 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu 12.04 < 1336652408 550086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336652435 506633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336652436 177969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1336652448 650396 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336652451 351043 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first install went bad < 1336652461 532429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: looks like the second one did too < 1336652463 761152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any data of value on the partitions in question < 1336652483 605231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not having a recognisable filesystem is quite a major problem for a partition, really < 1336652486 621726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if no: just boot a livecd, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdwhatever, start the install from scratch < 1336652486 860758 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The partitions grub gives access to? < 1336652495 738480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the drive full stop < 1336652498 360155 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336652499 151468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know what filesystem's meant to be on there, you could run the appropriate version of fsck from a liveCD, I guess < 1336652503 484863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, you can cancel that dd after a minute, since it'll have overwritten the important parts) < 1336652507 501346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: eh < 1336652514 353781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how painful would it be to rescue it and start over < 1336652531 897352 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doable < 1336652557 739802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be the simplest thing... the alternative is messing with the partition table (which might not be that much of a pain) < 1336652574 23108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boot the ubuntu installer and do manual partitioning, if you're confident in your skills of recognising which partition has your important data < 1336652581 518497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then just try deleting all the others and adding a new one for ubuntu < 1336652773 328182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: how do i watch your zotdef < 1336652776 639874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not on cao or cdo < 1336652808 11352 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-159-204.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336652821 812403 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :webtiles < 1336652833 477710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're kidding me < 1336652843 34937 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wong tiles < 1336652847 9820 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wang tiles even < 1336652900 229357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: ok but why < 1336652935 634372 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :webtiles has the hp bars < 1336652940 949633 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes zotdef a lot easier < 1336652958 196169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're such a windows user < 1336652970 595071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the fuck do you turn it to glyphs < 1336652976 921750 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :F10 < 1336652984 691909 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and select glyphs+symbols < 1336652996 984100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much spacing w/ glyphs+symbols < 1336653031 862923 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwi I guess < 1336653067 391644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm ding wi by using just glyphs < 1336653115 821669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spear of Premature Burial < 1336653116 603699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good name < 1336653156 132656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i don't get zot defence < 1336653175 139450 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336653176 164310 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you say this < 1336653179 173801 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :like zotdef is a thing you 'get < 1336653187 649664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well as in < 1336653192 611887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually understand what you are doing < 1336653245 281770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the simplest level < 1336653245 714411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336653249 585726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one level beyond "killing dudes" < 1336653269 906888 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it won't delete < 1336653290 142509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: more detail pls < 1336653307 983184 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 partitions that I want to delete won't delete < 1336653312 867049 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1336653313 800760 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok??? < 1336653317 32145 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :mennas got stuck in some kind of AI loop < 1336653317 414772 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336653318 284876 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for me < 1336653335 655361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sigh < 1336653340 783031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: why do you say they "won't delete" < 1336653346 512423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what behaviour occurs to make you say this < 1336653351 517524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: but what are you DOING < 1336653355 656823 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Error deleting parition" < 1336653361 646290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all it says? < 1336653362 913127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks installer < 1336653372 607261 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stopping monsters from getting to the orb < 1336653377 509404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is this your primary machine < 1336653382 146860 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336653387 412860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhhh < 1336653396 167141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you boot any other OS on it < 1336653412 407917 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they all go via grub < 1336653451 641222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows i presume? < 1336653455 374881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you consider the problem temporarily resolved if you could boot windows (and not linux) < 1336653483 163058 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336653525 847406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336653532 681748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a windows cd lying around < 1336653555 166219 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ish? < 1336653558 230545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ish < 1336653562 577100 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a Toshiba recover disk < 1336653577 511415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weeeeeeeell < 1336653583 947917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wipes your entire HD < 1336653585 692671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to my understanding < 1336653590 913217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had a windows disc < 1336653595 266166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just reinstall the bootloader < 1336653618 145518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that said there's a vague possibility you'll be able to convince the grub rescue stuff to boot windows but it'll be A Huge Pain if it's possible so uh < 1336653635 521702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be best to use the ubuntu livecd to copy all your data off and then just nuke the disk from orbit < 1336653643 734644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which I mean wipe it and reinstall everything < 1336653904 616746 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-32-248.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336654167 239000 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-159-204.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1336654175 974978 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I have a Windows 98 SE CD < 1336654189 512006 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that be any help? < 1336654403 471577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336654415 545062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want to install windows 98 < 1336654422 976027 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I don't < 1336654635 148039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: why are two other people watching you < 1336655112 990272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: you gonna report that bug? :P < 1336655151 294519 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not < 1336655164 778910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft < 1336655167 642950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's even in a release! < 1336655314 240651 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a -zotdef- bug < 1336655315 107730 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares < 1336655322 425723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zots < 1336655328 497088 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it probably has a retardedly complex cause < 1336655329 684267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know it doesn't happen in the eral game too?! < 1336655330 839407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*real < 1336655343 301372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336655346 105661 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :because zotdef fucks with all the pathfinding etc stuff < 1336655570 114756 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD9585D.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336656034 501546 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336656723 685816 :Taneb!4e940051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.0.81 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1336658691 645142 :lkjhl!jhlkjh@117.224.196.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336658820 74201 :lkjhl!jhlkjh@117.224.196.124 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what this channel is about ? < 1336658850 642431 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curry < 1336658853 395286 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ lkjhl ? esoteric < 1336658853 911480 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indian food < 1336658857 891151 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lkjhl: This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1336659044 344242 :lkjhl!jhlkjh@117.224.196.124 PART :#esoteric < 1336659217 270984 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time #esoteric < 1336659217 419648 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME < 1336659255 635051 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time #haskell-blah < 1336659301 298390 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16:13:40] Channel CTCP TIME request from lambdabot [~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com] (TIME), ignored < 1336659394 381337 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336661887 472934 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336661892 874681 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back < 1336662052 347620 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336662183 935128 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: possibly the best short #esoteric fanfiction paragraph i've read today < 1336662407 313376 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i can tell the kolmogorov complexity of a program, can this translate directly to the cost of running it on hardware (cpu time, memory usage)? < 1336662453 499174 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kolmogorov complexity of the program as a string of letters? < 1336662477 767693 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, as a program. < 1336662483 554138 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1336662483 859233 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I use EgoBot? < 1336662497 274821 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help i don't know maybe like this < 1336662497 994254 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for i_don_t_know_maybe_like_this! < 1336662506 185666 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!commands < 1336662514 424165 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help commands < 1336662515 85322 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for commands! < 1336662520 897103 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help you < 1336662521 587773 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for you! < 1336662524 329627 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336662532 513267 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: kolmogorov complexity can be used to check the complexity of a text, but also of more complex objects, such as programs < 1336662542 677253 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: look at text as a trivial program which is its output < 1336662543 488588 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what does it mean then? < 1336662590 954570 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that only helps if i know what the k complexity of a program is and i'm given a string < 1336662598 292878 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i only know what the k of a word is < 1336662605 729668 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a measure of the computational resources needed to run a program < 1336662626 303903 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the high level definition of kolmogorov complexity of a program < 1336662650 991410 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice i said "run" a program not "describe" a program < 1336662662 434700 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you link a definition? < 1336662678 579002 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanted to check the computational resources needed to describe it, you'd probably use an optimizing compiler of some sort. < 1336662687 201362 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i have heard it in a lecture < 1336662704 571018 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: stop spamming me < 1336662712 943307 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No: nicoo told me to. < 1336662729 526910 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: keep spamming me < 1336662746 968650 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? Is this a joke? < 1336662760 208944 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336662778 71212 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: okay, never heard of such a thing < 1336662791 402181 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i have heard of measures of running complexities < 1336662799 243741 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps that's a natural thing to call them < 1336662935 351462 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were tasked with measuring the cost of running a program, how would you approach it? < 1336663007 399335 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I run a BF program with EgoBot? I got it to give me the language list, but I can't findn the run command. < 1336663009 205240 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean how would i model that mathematically, or do you mean i'm given a program? < 1336663016 986463 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf muuuuuu < 1336663018 875640 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336663026 310517 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ,.!joo < 1336663027 74755 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336663050 939317 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ < 1336663051 748852 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336663053 299685 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1336663054 163704 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :B < 1336663058 634363 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++++++[>+++++++++++++++<-][.-] < 1336663059 342677 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336663062 151144 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336663073 852181 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++. < 1336663074 703507 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BE < 1336663079 251395 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.++++. < 1336663080 60910 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF < 1336663081 276671 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :counting is hard. < 1336663091 526577 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :++++++++++++[>++++++++<-][.-] < 1336663097 175800 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got it. < 1336663119 411954 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops. Forgot the !bf < 1336663127 117271 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++[>++++++++<-][.-] < 1336663127 794740 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336663140 771505 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336663147 775016 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bf is hard. < 1336663152 792135 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++[>++++++++<-]>[.-] < 1336663153 690453 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`_^]\[ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@?>=<;:9876543210/.-,+*)('&%$#"! ..................... \......... < 1336663157 704364 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: as the mathematical model, i would assume we compute total self-maps on naturals, and let T(n) be the number of steps taken when input is n, and S(n) be the space used < 1336663168 84299 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, the usual way < 1336663282 920892 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, yeah. < 1336663285 288893 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when Egobot does an infinite loop? I don't think it can solve the halting problem. < 1336663301 819071 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +[] < 1336663313 239859 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++[.] < 1336663313 936188 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... < 1336663319 236813 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you ask me to investigate a particular program's running times, i'd run it on a few random inputs or tell you to go fuck yourself. < 1336663323 133934 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally < 1336663346 223384 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, oklopol is here. < 1336663351 45537 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes more oklopol/elliott shipping. < 1336663356 417584 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: it can solve the halting problem for all programs you can submit through irc though < 1336663389 434665 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I submit wolfram's 2s3s turing machine? < 1336663391 461763 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can easily do that with a look-up table for any finite length < 1336663398 237246 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(given the look-up table) < 1336663428 283171 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bitwisecyclictag 1110001010 1001 < 1336663456 345770 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!BCT 1110001010 1001 < 1336663459 435125 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234: the first program for it that hasn't been proven to either terminate or not needs two characters more than the freenode message length < 1336663472 592858 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor really thought this one through < 1336663488 889360 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. I'm just staring at that, laughing. < 1336663504 106627 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1336663518 813186 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!BCT 1001 1001 < 1336663528 490784 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you run another type of program? < 1336663553 571193 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336663560 845140 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno :/ < 1336663588 369940 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!run BCT 1001 1001 < 1336663772 148446 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>.>---.>----.<++++++.----.+.+++.+.-.---.>+.>--. < 1336663772 919270 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi oklopol! < 1336663808 599045 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whii < 1336663817 770123 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++++++++++++[>+++>++++++++>+++++++>++++++<<<<-]>>>----.<-----.----.---.>>+++++++.<<++.>++.>--.<<<++++.+.+.+.--------------------.>--.>>++++++++++.++.<--.<+++++++.<.>>.<.>>++++.---.<----.>++.-------.<<.<++++++++++++++.------------------------------------. < 1336663852 339465 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still running..?.?. < 1336663881 425137 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336663885 885719 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++[>+++++++++>+++>+><<<<-]>>.<-.++++.-------.+++++++++++++++++++++.++++.----.-------------.--.+++++++++.>-.+++++++++++.+++.>-. < 1336663886 704999 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!bf_txtgen +. < 1336663903 294454 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwwwwww I hoped it would run the output. < 1336663910 958119 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++++[>+++>++++++++>+++++++>++++++<<<<-]>>>----.<-----.----.---.>>+++++++.<<++.>++.>--.<<<++++.+.+.+.--------------------.>--.>>++++++++++.++.<--.<+++++++.<.>>.<.>>++++.---.<----.>++.-------.<<.<++++++++++++++.------------------------------------. < 1336663911 715780 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang_1234 likes esolangs. < 1336664000 643754 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!languages < 1336664008 307524 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!langs < 1336664022 962750 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohwait, it's < 1336664024 685709 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1336664025 37055 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1336664061 938102 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>+.>>++++.-.>--.<+++.--.<<++.>>-----------------.>++.+++++++++.<<--.++++++++.>>---.<<.+++++.>>----.<.<<++++++++.>-.----.---.<----.>++.<++++++.--------.>>>-------------.+.+.+.<.<--.---.++.<++++++.>++++++++.>.<<.>.----.---.<----.>++.-------.++++++++++++.>>------.<----------------------. < 1336664062 756665 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[10:31] esolang_1234 likes esolangs. < 1336664223 936650 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust (++-)*100000 < 1336664224 603341 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1336664256 280620 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust failshudder >>+++++<<(++-)*100000 < 1336664266 219423 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for esolang_1234_failshudder: 16.7 < 1336664270 168795 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336664291 583512 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336664436 949223 :esolang_1234!40d8777d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.216.119.125 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1336665029 340631 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Diablo's rogue-influenced, but so are Dark Cloud, Dwarf Fortress, Dungeon Siege... I don't think any of those are roguelikes either. < 1336665029 652840 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Apparently all mainstream roguelikelikes have to start with "D" though.) < 1336665558 274988 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Dungeon Keeper < 1336665568 283817 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't start with a.. oh wait < 1336665776 652520 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336665858 670048 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336667187 49766 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD9585D.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336668100 899194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shiren the Wanderer? < 1336668113 225743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more roguelike than many open-source or beerfree roguelikes < 1336668121 673558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet it's a mainstream game and doesn't start with D < 1336668301 308188 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The shiren series is the only roguelike I've ever bothered with < 1336669221 567511 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336669235 465988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336669250 219780 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336669335 435638 :Foggalong!~Joshua@cpc12-shef11-2-0-cust44.barn.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336669436 14423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336669473 127070 :Foggalong!~Joshua@cpc12-shef11-2-0-cust44.barn.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1336669556 545564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336669760 647766 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336669781 179384 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336671579 579913 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336672155 364081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336672482 834665 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urrgh. If you want to get through gmail's junk mail filter, it's really easy: Just attach a virus to your email. Then it's guaranteed that the recipient will get at least your subject line. < 1336673038 480265 :Taneb!4e92a062@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.146.160.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336673052 359577 :Taneb!4e92a062@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.146.160.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336673510 903012 :Taneb!4e92a062@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.146.160.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a command that tells me what commands were installed with a particular package? < 1336673759 603539 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336673769 838263 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1336673801 138032 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336673856 228470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336674322 587992 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336674343 290324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1336674344 830584 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336674539 443643 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336674639 528759 :Taneb!4e92a062@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.146.160.98 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1336674734 463544 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-140-51.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336674805 618905 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg -S < 1336674813 898387 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh taneb is gone < 1336674831 658281 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__ -S < 1336674833 65761 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how goes < 1336674862 579485 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking what i should do at the gym tomorrow < 1336674897 307885 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll do some abs in addition to the usual which is arms < 1336674906 792536 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you have enough arms already < 1336674907 140138 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the usual on that day that is < 1336674920 246895 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i need at least 80 < 1336674975 957946 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you ever go to the gym kmc < 1336674978 1451 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336674983 866940 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you cultivating a life raft < 1336675049 560053 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how's stuff with u? < 1336675059 566153 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336675086 75889 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's your mish mosh < 1336675089 212234 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pish tosh < 1336675106 228601 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336675108 95317 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336675122 295540 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have double precision hdr colour yet < 1336675125 228907 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336675129 196574 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting for ur patches < 1336675130 63363 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :insufficient < 1336675151 815184 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :my patches will not merge with such a primitive codebase < 1336675157 869764 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need at least wordpress code quality < 1336675189 327048 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own < 1336675213 748321 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :resistance is mutex < 1336675224 442387 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym futex < 1336675237 731295 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :futual exclusion? < 1336675239 281526 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I unistalled Xorg today. Now I only use framebuffer and console apps < 1336675254 496259 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps bonghits will fix your Xorg < 1336675276 857493 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have 3 times more free memory < 1336675278 777101 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti why did you think i said i need 80 arms < 1336675286 726482 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best resolution is 80 chars amirite < 1336675299 562854 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea. < 1336675300 846445 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: you can finally execute emacs < 1336675308 437883 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good 4 u < 1336675310 197451 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Lisp, but the only atoms are "and" and "or". < 1336675324 972783 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the entire idea. < 1336675333 490648 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :your idea is boring < 1336675339 354572 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still lisp < 1336675351 432526 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: futex is a linux system call < 1336675352 811607 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: why would I want to use emacs if I can use ed? < 1336675355 397980 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if u did not kno < 1336675366 437787 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, i knew < 1336675369 889254 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just pulling your leg < 1336675390 971151 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: bonghits? < 1336675394 783012 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and) is true and (or) is false, and... I don't know what (()) is. < 1336675395 467624 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336675405 979352 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless your pipe is cracked < 1336675410 467858 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you want some of that < 1336675446 717455 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: make it use deontic logic and you're getting somewhere. < 1336675499 782550 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language are you talking about? < 1336675510 684173 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainf**k < 1336675516 896998 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's distinct from Brainfuck < 1336675521 454001 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from Brainf*ck < 1336675526 704106 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from BF < 1336675558 844317 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity490.html < 1336675575 108945 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336675617 730355 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336675620 500227 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am super-bored < 1336675627 571332 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I still don't understand < 1336675628 430661 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have been tasked with entertaining me < 1336675658 440148 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :persevere and your god might pull you out of your miserable little life < 1336675687 595031 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail, and your soul shall forever roam the labirynths of doom < 1336675804 115252 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: it's ok < 1336675816 402257 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: have you seen this british sitcom _Peep Show_? < 1336675822 267468 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be the last person on earth to hear about it < 1336675825 304526 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's bloody hilarious < 1336675849 138730 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are in europe and so the european tv takes less time to propogate < 1336675854 139049 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never found it funny < 1336675862 593329 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you're a bad person and you should die in a fire < 1336675867 263756 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much have you seen? < 1336675867 810452 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because i've had british idiots around all day every day < 1336675872 611177 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too much < 1336675889 524341 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336675894 441780 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard of peep show before i heard of you < 1336675899 454207 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that tells you anything < 1336675934 510892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought Series 3 was particularly funny < 1336675937 580547 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're the guy who came to london from boston, and was raving about haskell and erlang and his hedge fund software during a pub drinking night < 1336675939 512661 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's all good < 1336675945 557087 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll check it out < 1336675955 961826 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that all sounds like something i'd do, except for erlang < 1336675960 730141 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336675973 327113 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also have you ever had a moustache < 1336675989 248017 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a very good one < 1336676002 485016 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I like the idea of modal logic gates. < 1336676016 94142 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you < 1336676058 191791 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just quantum computing < 1336676061 244957 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there is a king in Norway. < 1336676094 949400 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, quantum computing has tons of nuances that the phrase "modal logic gates" does not imply. < 1336676247 852231 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah and php is not a wrapper around c libs < 1336676260 343594 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic description of a quantum computer is a) pretty simple, and b) totally different from what anyone who hasn't studied quantum computing thinks it is < 1336676303 816909 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: which modal logic do you have in mind? < 1336676330 736479 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear temporal logic could be a fun basis for an esolang < 1336676356 61404 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in which ways is it different? < 1336676436 791625 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in a quantum computer, every possible classical memory state is assigned a complex number, the "probability amplitude", such that the sums of the squares of the absolute values of these numbers (the "probabilities") is 1. < 1336676482 135160 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computation consists of a sequence of quantum logic gates, which are unitary linear transformations, and observations, which are weird. < 1336676485 139641 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that, anyway. < 1336676490 24431 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: it's not known to give you generalized nondeterminism < 1336676561 700544 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: modal logic can be expressed in quantum computing in a very natural way < 1336676565 146602 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible that BQP = NP but also possible that BQP = P < 1336676584 505216 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: because quantum computing is constraint computing < 1336676590 427198 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it now < 1336676594 912368 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is too < 1336676614 620420 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your constraints don't fit your wavefunkshion collapsez < 1336676620 666991 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also possible that P = NP... < 1336676628 73451 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336676636 709112 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: uh < 1336676637 153602 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's considered unlikely. < 1336676765 301406 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by some < 1336676768 750616 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4856.html < 1336676828 322211 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean when you ask experts for a guess, you get some "P ≠ NP", some "P = NP", some "independent of ZFC", and some "don't know" < 1336676844 585147 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :P ≠ NP is certainly the plurality view, but not unanimous < 1336676851 309983 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gasarch/papers/poll.pdf < 1336676945 684745 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt a random oracle, P ≠ NP with probability 1 < 1336676968 443427 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet there are classes which are unequal this way with probability 1, yet are equal in the "real world" with no oracle < 1336677087 69684 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336677429 958859 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336677933 532755 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4805.html < 1336677945 179341 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336678145 200193 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Webcomic author's tip: always wait at least 5 years between updates. Amateurs often update more frequently but this is a mistake." < 1336678148 480151 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1336678170 556506 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1336678622 557000 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4769.html < 1336678690 995929 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.202 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336678826 777778 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336678841 982136 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As much as I don't like the GOP, this image is pretty < 1336678842 698286 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gop.com/themes/site_themes/gop/images/footerbanner.png < 1336678903 35211 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4755.html < 1336678913 210428 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think you need a kernel patch < 1336678927 177266 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strcpy("dongs", "bongs") < 1336678943 389051 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: GOP? < 1336678965 346472 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Grand Old Party". The Republican party. < 1336678979 208216 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336678997 800047 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc doesn't warn on that line, even with -Wall < 1336679009 788097 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have thought that string literals have type const char* < 1336679018 429081 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe they don't, for backwards compat < 1336679029 302985 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name's kinda ironic: they're the younger of the two major US parties. < 1336679043 487283 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The standard says they're const char*. < 1336679056 111119 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ur such a geek < 1336679063 800764 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: are they? wow < 1336679077 434925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, it doesn't; it just says you shouldn't modify them. < 1336679086 241303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The type is still plain char. < 1336679100 537027 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'The term originated in 1875 in the Congressional Record, referring to the party associated with the successful military defense of the Union as "this gallant old party"; the following year in an article in the Cincinnati Commercial, the term was modified to "grand old party".' < 1336679155 395693 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... The fuck they're actually char[]s but modifying them is undefined behavior. < 1336679168 362002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For character string literals, the array elements have type char, ..." < 1336679169 572010 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: -Wwrite-strings should warn about mutating a string literal. < 1336679174 226977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's not part of -Wall) < 1336679191 771220 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way ate there even other parties and democrats and republicans in USA < 1336679195 221856 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even in -Wextra! < 1336679205 236102 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: sure, there are tons, they rarely have any political power though < 1336679221 311706 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I did say "*major*" for a reason. < 1336679235 692408 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's dozens of political parties, just hardly any that remain relevant. < 1336679236 174573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You used to be able to make them writable with -fwritable-strings, but I think that has gone away. < 1336679248 728581 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :NP is a proper subset of P < 1336679279 162494 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I suspect they figure that anything that old won't work with any modern libc *anyways*. :) < 1336679291 764901 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no it isn't < 1336679293 661613 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Congrats on your millions. < 1336679298 467486 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proof uses the theory of GOL gliders < 1336679305 892118 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes it is < 1336679313 712369 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just finished the proof and am going to be rich < 1336679322 400577 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool story bro < 1336679453 366956 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4724.html < 1336679545 659193 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc < 1336679548 589210 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a bit less bored < 1336679554 106626 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have not failed me, little one < 1336679587 396681 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1336679591 190962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have discovered jerkcity? < 1336679594 467556 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just rediscovered < 1336679751 227363 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rediscovered < 1336679757 79597 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, recursion: http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4713.html < 1336679908 157641 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: i'm watching http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_(TV_series) < 1336679919 50400 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't decided if it's interesting or really terrible or both < 1336679940 411305 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to watch stargate sg-1 back to back. < 1336679944 346068 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336679959 422462 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you watched it already? < 1336679959 780923 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this show has a total Magic Negro character < 1336679965 294690 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought writers were wise to that sort of thing by now < 1336679966 161864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I have a prediction for what will happen in Oracle v Google < 1336679977 751094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I predict that Google will be found to owe Oracle exactly $750 in damages < 1336679984 327073 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is he poor < 1336679988 968934 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and possibly a mute < 1336680005 695130 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :parts of this show sound like the Numberwang Code trailer < 1336680015 685995 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the what < 1336680022 82880 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i've found a movie which you must watch < 1336680025 680311 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is called lisztomania < 1336680027 459017 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know about numberwang? < 1336680031 942119 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you will enjoy it < 1336680046 619866 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i do not know of numberwang < 1336680065 508827 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjOZtWZ56lc < 1336680083 104905 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why that much < 1336680088 136708 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: he lives in the bronx, so probably poor < 1336680103 488797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's the minimum possible value for wilful copyright infringement, so it would seem appropriate for 9 lines out of 15 million < 1336680109 699342 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336680116 592704 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336680116 940882 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know there were minimum penalties in civil suits < 1336680119 188316 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :download lisztomania right now < 1336680121 788586 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336680124 590028 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336680132 823944 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1336680253 255922 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really liked numberwang 1x01 < 1336680408 989626 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe i should watch stargate < 1336680443 387919 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have a copy < 1336681004 438967 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336681018 583101 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the movie is so so < 1336681025 181226 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the tv series is much better < 1336681031 524104 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you seen "history of numberwang"? < 1336681077 781105 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336681200 955247 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.202 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336681503 507079 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Shit, we swore we were going to get through this week without praising the Third Reich again." < 1336682832 81225 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336683002 269919 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336683870 590421 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.202 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336683998 482080 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1336684238 312077 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336684929 395032 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336685405 683526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336686421 696445 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.202 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336687730 539186 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336687768 86084 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336687948 111252 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336687948 187244 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336688813 485482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : C++,C--,C#,Cω,C♫, C₀ and C! are already taken, might I recommend "C-:"? It looks something like a smiley face. < 1336689048 509363 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1336689320 535414 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336689946 829997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads Unity source < 1336689957 607107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, should download gnome-games source too < 1336690623 116343 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336691255 328997 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD9585D.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336691593 129143 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336692574 834037 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :const < 1336692960 359232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336694655 468785 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4702.html < 1336695761 337932 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336696216 350785 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523> C++,C--,C#,Cω,C♫, C₀ and C! are already taken, might I recommend "C-:"? It looks something like a smiley face. < 1336696222 232105 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strangely, not Cflat < 1336696242 932020 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you decide if Touch is good or bad < 1336696856 297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336697825 2133 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336698037 157930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336698904 946914 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336700423 569709 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336700630 545796 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336701561 914249 :mrdragons!~em@91.222.36.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336702325 954001 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1336702364 304716 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336702514 255302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336703353 96497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I was trying to think of with WizardCard, for example in Magic: the Gathering you may have a card with effect: Enchanted permanent gains "{0}: Destroy ~". Note in this case what the tilde refers to! So when converting into a computer code, the macro has to know what it is doing! < 1336703552 696213 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1336703569 821981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example if it eventually becomes: grant(read(this,attachee),activated(free,destroy(tilde))) and then it has to expand the "tilde" macro. Possibly by using some kind of lambda so that the parameter can be replaced at runtime by the current "this"? I don't know exactly how. < 1336703683 207862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/thjko/oh_ghc/ why is this a submission < 1336703683 407262 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336703875 902362 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arn't higher order functions enough? < 1336703878 660702 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need macros? < 1336704227 490738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: Higher order functions are useful but macros are also useful for different purpose. < 1336704238 709466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some things one will do which the other won't. < 1336704246 218689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Both ways) < 1336704252 440045 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you use a macro here? < 1336704331 733085 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :activated :: Cost -> (Context -> Context) -> Ability < 1336704342 577286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: Well, even the code I gave would result from the expansion of a few macros; but I am using some macro just for what I have thought. < 1336704386 401237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, yes, your type would be essentially it; well, the second parameter might differ somehow, or maybe not... < 1336704493 635649 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :grant :: Permanent -> Ability -> Permanent < 1336704494 326958 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1336704502 804982 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe even < 1336704546 196197 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Ability = Triggered (Context -> Bool) (Context -> Context) | Activated Cost (Context -> Context) < 1336704547 447041 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1336704549 513627 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To give an example in Haskell where a macro would work but a function won't do, is: let { f g = either g g } in f :: (b -> c) -> Either b b -> c; let { f g = either length length } in f :: t -> Either [a] [a1] -> Int; if f were a macro in the first case then you could do like the second one too since their types fail to match < 1336704643 506681 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: I think those are a bit too simple; for example, these parameters are not necessarily pure values since first you need to calculate them in context (and there may be rules to override the context), and then this "grant" also needs to count as a (static) ability, etc < 1336704695 628426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means it need to allow overriding and other things, some which can be done by monads others which help partially by macros too < 1336704987 32673 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336705454 426065 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net NICK :TeruFSX < 1336705900 399355 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider an Inform 7 program such as "Instead of taking the telephone booth, kill the player." But, this is a global rule. In Magic: the Gathering, there might be effects on cards that act somewhat like this, and even these ones can be overridden; global rules can also be overridden. < 1336706702 14439 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you wrote the music to this game's title screen, right? http://armorgames.com/play/13225/pretentious-game < 1336706852 858804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_n - a cursed -5 ring of strength (left claw) < 1336706856 476193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuo're horible corl < 1336706970 114971 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody know a good non-distance-weighted pathfinding algorithm < 1336707001 989261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeruFSX: What are you making? < 1336707015 798803 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically a browsable point-connected map < 1336707088 775328 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll look somewhere more appropriate < 1336707117 708510 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only know sound stuff, not AI < 1336707423 788868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeruFSX: Can't you just use A* :P < 1336707434 238755 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh yes < 1336707867 188052 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to rip the music that was definitely written by Gregor and not by somebody else. < 1336708088 454895 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor writes music? :D < 1336708223 248238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/music/ < 1336708269 490032 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor definitely writes music, such as the acclaimed Opus 11, as well as such pieces as Opus 10 and Opus 13. < 1336708321 446087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implying 11 is better than 13. < 1336708324 259435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, I don't remember 11.) < 1336708342 909860 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opus 11 is one of the best thousand songs I've ever heard. < 1336708358 667658 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opus 11 is . . . the best thousand songs I've ever heard. < 1336708361 815950 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha he uses opus numbers :o < 1336708369 244343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: That's a pretty low standard. < 1336708396 941007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't know what else to call it, you use opus numbers, isn't it? < 1336708406 345619 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of taking the telephone booth, kill the player. < 1336708414 98041 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as play counts go, Opus 11 is tied for... 252nd. < 1336708427 883630 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, what's that one song? < 1336708428 440557 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo: why not filenames :D < 1336708442 146149 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tswett < 1336708443 368185 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That goes da (da-da-da) da (da da) da (da-da-da) da (da da) and so on? < 1336708455 425120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: But you would still need to decide something such as filenames too < 1336708455 947030 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5553 < 1336708462 396071 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi madbr < 1336708463 256534 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4442 < 1336708469 385799 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, "Hardlyquin". < 1336708479 815570 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1336708578 688999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1336708579 723162 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno about his "electronic music", his piano stuff is nice tho yeah :D < 1336708603 973893 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at the songs he has played 19 times. < 1336708608 597707 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, all of these songs are exactly equally good. < 1336708720 660060 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm yeah the solo piano stuff is a lot better :D < 1336708749 76309 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird, I thought when you could compose well for one you could do it for the other... oh well :D < 1336709107 495371 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone else composes in here? :D < 1336709134 537616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: I have written some music in QBASIC < 1336709278 356112 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and zzt? :D < 1336709410 258334 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder what my music would look transcribed < 1336709422 743226 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably hard to play stuff with jumps all over the place :D < 1336709977 723303 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mind revealing itself to itself < 1336710022 205997 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no it's just that it's composed to sound good on computer, not be easy to play :3 < 1336710028 249249 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so often it's kinda fast etc < 1336710185 272804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, also ZZT, but also QBASIC. Some music I have written is in Bohlen-Pierce I wrote a subroutine for QBASIC called "PlayBP" which is like the built-in PLAY but with Bohlen-Pierce notes < 1336710360 378424 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336710371 659144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WriterT (Product (Ratio Integer)) [] is one way to represent a probability distribution in Haskell, I would think!! (You can then sort and combine and whatever else, afterward) < 1336710615 495018 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Derptal 2 http://imgur.com/a/x9qTF < 1336710695 67127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For doing the macro expansion in WizardCard I have decided this might work: type Expander = StateT [Declaration] []; How well do you think? (It would sometimes have multiple possible expansions, some of which may eventually fail; and is also possible for macros to add new declarations) < 1336710725 678160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And to read other declarations, affect declaration in other ways too, etc) < 1336711008 841503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if Pascal compiler to target LLVM exists? < 1336711397 430959 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336711421 611699 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336711421 669413 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336711421 669552 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336711814 83154 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336712800 932145 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"madbr so often it's kinda fast etc" how fast? < 1336712932 806538 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1336712940 298374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336712966 118319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336712978 642627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID U KNO THAT IN C ARRAYS ARE POINTERS. ALSO I = I++ + I++ CAUSES I TO BECOME 4 < 1336712990 368313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELKOM TO INFORMATION SUPERHEIGHWAY < 1336712992 444427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matter what I's previous value was. < 1336712992 462377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1336713020 208181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336713022 451814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: YES INDEED. < 1336713032 187925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I just realise now that 4 is a plausible result if i starts as 0 there. :( < 1336713043 667494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sort of, anyway. < 1336713048 184741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, it isn't. < 1336713068 855190 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's perfectly plausible. < 1336713098 873069 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But arrays aren't pointers. :-( < 1336713099 186606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any result is plausible for a sufficiently flexible 'plausible'. < 1336713135 515707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i = i++ + i++; /* i becomes a picture of a dog */ < 1336713172 683392 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a sizeof(i)*CHAR_BIT-pixel black-and-white dog. < 1336713183 901592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, I put in parentheses there. :( < 1336713194 601652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to say (sizeof i)*CHAR_BIT, I think. < 1336713199 859635 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sizeof ((i)*CHAR_BIT) < 1336713214 467258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, it doesn't become a numerical representation of a picture of a dog. < 1336713216 539789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It becomes a picture of a dog. < 1336713228 369422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("%d\n", i); /* prints a picture of a dog to the screen */ < 1336713232 718455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even on text-only displays. < 1336713259 546343 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I mention I got *TWO* responses from Knuth about my email? < 1336713291 984011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were the responses saying completely opposite things? If so, that does perhaps not bode well for further volumes. < 1336713313 447207 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, one was a followup. < 1336713320 599787 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also one was handwritten, the other emailed. < 1336713992 396252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know God is a crazy woman? I don't. < 1336714007 330446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336714177 51981 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336714329 219075 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336714361 739927 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336714390 665934 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336714677 635279 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/#!/Marinmenyo/status/200628420789547010/photo/1 < 1336714723 74169 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-124-200.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336714840 453885 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-140-51.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336715168 288481 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-124-200.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336716421 679096 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1336717325 533064 :cheater__!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336718313 946911 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-115-142.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336718918 369393 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-153-208.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336719081 3688 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-115-142.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336719317 429226 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has PH been online at all recently? < 1336719318 800633 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ph < 1336719329 813291 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pH < 1336719386 651826 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP < 1336719422 264253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's in ireland < 1336719531 658051 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do you pronounce “via a” (as in “via a connection”) as “viaRa”? < 1336719541 879247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pause is not "r"! < 1336719639 171737 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s what i thought, but in Look Around You the guy pronounces it like that and when i asked another British guy about it (some years ago) he confirmed that’s how it’s pronounced. Also, wouldn’t using a pause sound something like “viatta” to a Brit? < 1336719640 456352 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :viar a? < 1336719650 799228 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's concievable < 1336719737 465113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: this would be a good learndb entry for me why are 10 people watching elliott die to a beetle < 1336719758 155156 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Sgeo will add it < 1336719797 764261 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, when will you get W:A working? < 1336720150 848906 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336720217 326991 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-123-190.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336720253 754640 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336720357 576082 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-153-208.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336720450 428790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there some program with some features of Astrolog and other programs, can also plot the International Space Station's coordinates, and coordinates of camera satellites (such as Google Earth), set camera angles of objects, set various other parameters, etc. Another possible feature would be dynamic orb angles based on apparent diameters and other things < 1336720894 960621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Stellarium" program has a satellite plugin (including ISS) that knows how to calculate the coordinates, but Stellarium itself is more of a "look at the sky" program than "calculate things about the sky" one. (And I doubt there really are any "Google Earth" satellites; I'd suppose there's at least two levels of companies between Google and the satellites.) < 1336720918 755804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, celestrak.com is about tracking satellite positions, I think they've got some software links too. < 1336720933 369150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's where Stellarium's plugin gets its information from.) < 1336720976 372126 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336721491 661923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Astrolog is missing a few report formats (one thing missing certainly is that although it can print calendars; it lacks the feature to include any data on the calendars), but it does do many things that other programs don't have. Just a similar program but with other features too, as well as the way to combine them, would help. < 1336721512 428329 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-123-190.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336721535 789631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you have the satellite positions on your computer? < 1336721599 284404 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what the coordinates of ISS are? < 1336721979 158856 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 03:13 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5867126092237181778 < 1336721981 549200 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 02:16 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6229002293145728844 < 1336721991 99355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336722422 270718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you want to hear jokes < 1336722423 138452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast naga < 1336722427 878943 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha ha < 1336722476 81141 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1336722486 419329 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @echo @echo @echo HA < 1336722486 626568 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = "freenode", msgLBName = "lambdabot", msgPrefix = "ion!ion@heh.fi", msgCommand = "PRIVMSG", msgParams = ["#esoteric",":@@ @echo @echo @echo HA"]} rest:"echo; msg: < 1336722486 726071 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IrcMessage {msgServer = \"freenode\", msgLBName = \"lambdabot\", msgPrefix = \"ion!ion@heh.fi\", msgCommand = \"PRIVMSG\", msgParams = [\"#esoteric\",\":@@ @echo @echo @echo HA\"]} rest:\"echo; msg: < 1336722486 744559 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IrcMessage {msgServer = \\\"freenode\\\", msgLBName = \\\"lambdabot\\\", msgPrefix = \\\"ion!ion@heh.fi\\\", msgCommand = \\\"PRIVMSG\\\", msgParams = [\\\"#esoteric\\\",\\\":@@ @echo @echo @echo HA\ < 1336722486 744768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\\"]} rest:\\\"HA\\\"\"" < 1336722555 484777 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Does the International Space Station affect your luck in romance or gambling? < 1336722591 152311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Not unless you are betting on or marrying someone living there. < 1336722637 580310 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on what its position was at the point you moved from the inside of the womb to the outside. < 1336722670 428715 :cheater!~cheater@p50897B3B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336722687 392948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: In that case, I highly doubt it. < 1336722723 547945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At first I thought you meant the current date/time; which is what my first answer was based on) < 1336722723 980695 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it’s excluded from the list of objects in the sky behave like that? < 1336722725 634773 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+that < 1336722772 855389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: 4.1 is hard < 1336722786 383477 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336722803 91977 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Any comments about the pronunciation in the videos? < 1336722811 179181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No objects in the sky behave like that, as far as I am concerned. But if you like to do so, you can assign what they mean to you according to synchronicity (the subjective grouping of events; as opposed to causality which is the objective grouping) if you have nothing else to do. < 1336722866 259233 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I was just wondering what Astrolog would do with the location of ISS. < 1336722876 38150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I didn't watch. < 1336722878 718896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Have you played 4.1? < 1336722881 301598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should play 4.1. < 1336722901 531384 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m plortal 2. < 1336722904 341030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is possibly the case of indirect effects from whatever, possibly psychological effect from superstition, possibly lighting conditions, and once the king was scared to death by an eclipse, so such things are not completely impossible. < 1336722946 88899 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :II'v tried it < 1336722951 992774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Well, it would simply plot its location on whatever reports you want. Interpretation text could be given too; but you would probably not use the ISS in interpretation reports. < 1336722954 113918 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not gotten very far < 1336723005 419544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Astrolog does allow full customization of interpretation texts, so it is possible someone might do something with that) < 1336723267 870018 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I now know what this world is missing. There needs to be some sort of natural law whereby anyone who writes a substantial amount of crap eventually dies in fires started by their own software." < 1336723274 687864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what are you writing a denotational semantics for :o < 1336723288 615669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, on the astro-graph you could plot its position above the Earth on a map of the world, on the horizon view you can determine its azimuth/altitude, and on the horoscope you can plot its ecliptic longitude, and there are many other reports available too. < 1336723317 822002 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing!!! i'm not writing a denotational semantics i'm near falling asleep. if i was writing a denotational semantics though it would be a secret < 1336723329 915766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i don't like secrets!!! < 1336723334 734727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"too bad" < 1336723354 459922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it'll gnaw at me!!! < 1336723364 247867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hurting with pain monqy < 1336723377 803010 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more pain: i've already written small-step and big-step operational semantics for it < 1336723382 475438 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more pain: by written i mean in coq < 1336723389 195166 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you feel it < 1336723391 915437 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gnawing < 1336723401 39482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1336723416 524050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it your language you're going to write your roguelike in < 1336723422 88872 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336723423 659330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(imo a very likely guess) < 1336723427 206216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what!!! literally impossible < 1336723461 978110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but what IS it!!!!! < 1336723465 546494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a secret < 1336723477 665810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: when will it stop being secret < 1336723483 34113 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will never stop < 1336723494 850131 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you like stalk me and find my name on a paper or something idk < 1336723495 266719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336723496 815544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1336723513 446056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you feel the tears inside my eyes < 1336723514 700004 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my name isn't on any papers yet don't even try < 1336723607 206802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but what < 1336723607 897085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1336723609 286052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it : ' ( < 1336723622 564382 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a secret < 1336723625 845539 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even my own project < 1336723646 221935 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"universety researche" < 1336723656 367322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not help the gnaweing!!! < 1336723720 931014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is the test of a good religion whether you can joke about it." - GK Chesterton < 1336723789 913524 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-245.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336724082 718677 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-125-151.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336724172 412752 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-245.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336724685 35756 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-157-214.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336724872 447234 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-125-151.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336725445 494985 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336725525 570578 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336725525 629471 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336725525 629631 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336725747 437221 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336726559 327653 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336726562 930954 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell < 1336726582 507151 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1336726613 983172 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1336726837 888042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: Pushing red button with purple dots and yellow lines is not permitted on Tuesdays, sorry! < 1336727089 386502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: this game is so much better than dcss wow < 1336727090 795257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1336727091 654082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarious < 1336727097 525918 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, which game? < 1336727110 119467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: linley's dungeon crawl 4.1 alpha < 1336727119 107451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which caused dcss to exist < 1336727122 725346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and never got out of alpha) < 1336727128 84705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awful < 1336727154 777841 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still haven't got my laptop working < 1336727352 838879 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1336727356 123867 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong < 1336727413 144648 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grub's messed up < 1336727459 212647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not grub that's messed up < 1336727465 60799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the whole filesystem < 1336727491 159429 :cheater!~cheater@p50897B3B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336727509 621397 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I can still access my files when I boot from USB < 1336727553 22438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you can? < 1336727556 855587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on every partition? < 1336727606 424338 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336727741 854245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336727745 483366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be fairly easy to repair then < 1336727753 401269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catch me when i'm not watching monqy play 4.1 < 1336727757 710797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'll try to help you fix it < 1336727813 226580 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :catch you catch me < 1336728113 31811 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336728307 667695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why not daggre :'( < 1336728309 815156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*daggere < 1336728315 461955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was glowing !! < 1336728381 633464 :cheater!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336728534 904959 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336728596 383090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's V < 1336728601 525918 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaults < 1336728620 243778 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the branche) < 1336728620 707239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336728637 239279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you have to admit, it's more fun than dcss!!! < 1336728648 44688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not spen :( < 1336728704 552646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: play a mummy!!! < 1336728867 879743 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1336728939 275453 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can I catch you now? < 1336728948 427394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336728952 621948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a linux livecd < 1336729049 564424 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :USB, yeah < 1336729115 4705 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mute character will communicate with hand-held wooden signs on which are scrawled his comments and questions. < 1336729127 619898 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flipping the sign will often display additional messages often more than the two one would expect from a simple two-sided object. < 1336729141 680806 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well duh < 1336729145 975166 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The signs are 4-dimensional < 1336729189 915435 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah so its a 4 dimensional rotation? < 1336729197 793946 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like this http://achewood.com/index.php?date=11092005 < 1336729247 165625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: boot it < 1336729255 31177 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-120-81.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336729292 530927 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm chatting using it < 1336729299 172255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: open a terminal < 1336729310 272018 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1336729321 867892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ok do you have the linux partition mounted < 1336729331 195521 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336729339 861451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd to it < 1336729341 436983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(brb one second) < 1336729382 979699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1336729384 695512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: done? < 1336729390 516400 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's certainly a quick reply. < 1336729396 799219 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1336729402 867604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo chroot . < 1336729419 355296 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :K < 1336729420 284570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1336729424 523418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ubuntu version is it < 1336729429 887938 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12.04 < 1336729459 847321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm < 1336729471 406322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, close that terminal; install the Boot-Repair program instead (through the package manager) < 1336729474 18890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then click "Recommended repair" < 1336729476 475307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should automate the grub reinstall < 1336729488 244211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it might not be available in the main repos < 1336729491 211530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try opening a terminal and < 1336729495 801505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update < 1336729499 457871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo apt-get install boot-repair < 1336729501 627489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then run it < 1336729513 980580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1336729521 860113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :write down the URL it gives after it repairs it < 1336729529 687682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has information about your system that could be used if it doesn't work < 1336729619 215629 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got stuck at Reading Package List... 90% < 1336729665 138550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for how long < 1336729666 178707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it a minute < 1336729674 367563 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just changed to 91% < 1336729677 913145 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: ? < 1336729696 109969 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind, it's completed < 1336729760 826182 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've... < 1336729764 99529 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ran out of space? < 1336729774 97211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1336729780 308827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you _did_ do it in another terminal, right? < 1336729787 139848 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1336729792 792174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one second < 1336729804 170115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok show me the exact error please < 1336729813 661522 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still going < 1336729826 434623 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it took like 1min 10sec after i first mentioned strange flipping signs before you posted the comic reference < 1336729830 812679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336729842 85737 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, just stopped < 1336729848 110041 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg: error: failed to link '/var/lib/dpkg/available' to '/var/lib/dpkg/available-old' for backup of available database: No space left on device E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) < 1336729857 522500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm < 1336729858 773345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you run < 1336729859 658626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mount < 1336729862 480782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tell me what it outputs < 1336729881 561483 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your favourite pastebin? < 1336729888 14434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprunge.us i guess < 1336729901 768726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mount | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' sprunge.us < 1336729933 839253 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparantly, I haven't got curl < 1336729951 331531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1336729954 17505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use hpaste or something :P < 1336729984 465129 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/68376 < 1336730063 951824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336730068 561764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how weird < 1336730072 27090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336730075 507639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try rebooting then running the same commands < 1336730158 977512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: failing that < 1336730163 322577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look for the repair program in the menus anyway < 1336730163 837127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1336730177 959933 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, bye < 1336730180 455712 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 QUIT : < 1336730381 309477 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: yes < 1336730502 339795 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :using my power of google search < 1336730835 459658 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336730928 696337 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: cheater_ < 1336731045 503904 :cheater!~cheater@g229023029.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336731148 857553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, lighting might be inefficient if I do it the way I was going to... < 1336731600 111797 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95AFE.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336731865 356171 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336731889 439128 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello everybody < 1336731930 202325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336732012 375950 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-157-214.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336732425 469141 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336732449 114126 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336732545 472238 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336732550 132018 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that didn't work < 1336732552 257109 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Hello! < 1336732678 793622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Show me the URL? (In /mgs.) < 1336732680 436194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*msg < 1336732692 120674 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it didn't work at all < 1336732696 724794 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a fresh live usb < 1336732700 321027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not very specific. < 1336732703 615491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean it ran out of space again? < 1336732710 218060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If yes, making a new live medium won't help. < 1336732742 28219 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means I tried to make more space and it went horribly wrong while attempting that < 1336732789 203093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very well, then. < 1336732797 574775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, USB sticks are mutable. < 1336732803 390942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's why it didn't try to install it to a RAM fs. < 1336732805 284609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1336732806 701719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1336732809 522403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*FS. < 1336732818 9902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let me know when you have the new live medium booted. < 1336732849 827833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You could alternatively download http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/, which has it pre-installed. < 1336732857 460473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And use unetbootin to put it on your USB stick.) < 1336732867 536438 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finished Portal 2. The ending was brilliant. < 1336732905 498604 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1336733043 67153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finish the weather game. The ending is tight. And also sweet. Or so I hear. < 1336733223 6993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also didn't Portal 2's user-generated content steam workshop thing just come out? That doesn't sound very finishable. < 1336733224 388712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weather game? < 1336733234 886272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/20 < 1336733267 515197 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-130-75.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336733293 31589 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336733303 580550 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, did you do the 2-player thing? < 1336733312 172673 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The single-player main game, duh. :-P < 1336733322 211389 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: That’s next in TODO. :-) < 1336733348 270086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't take long. < 1336733376 520364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the actual playthrough part. In my case, locating a second player did. < 1336733433 974733 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Played through a bit with a random < 1336733440 704966 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Played through most of it with a friend < 1336733546 302547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Played through it with the built-in voice thing, and got some comments about how nonsensical it sounds to a third-party observer who's not watching the screen, just having to listen to (one side) of the speaking. < 1336733563 900366 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336733735 596974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose Perpetual Testing Initiative supports the making of coooopy test chambers? < 1336733822 8540 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :portal 2 co-op is one of the most mentally taxing video game experiences i've had < 1336733882 958151 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to coordinate motor skills, spatial reasoning, abstract problem solving, and communicating with another person < 1336733902 713382 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to like make up words to describe the stuff in the level so you can coordinate < 1336733908 85284 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1336733984 833932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I think it went along quite naturally. I suppose it might depend somewhat on the another person, though. < 1336734076 498260 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336734159 429691 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc did you get lisztomania yet < 1336734167 706963 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336734169 857639 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a maserwork < 1336734174 765864 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :masterwork too < 1336734181 366898 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i was kinda drunk too < 1336734190 852272 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it beats zardoz < 1336734195 162963 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336734199 206130 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not el topo < 1336734206 77815 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nearly < 1336734257 611165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see there's 39690 entries in the thing already, and it's been out, what, three days? < 1336734286 597218 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, in what thing? < 1336734301 589609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portal 2's community-generated-map steam-workshop thing. < 1336734357 538568 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336734567 237965 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-130-75.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336734617 916710 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, installed the ISO on the USB < 1336734628 323568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, boot it and use boot-repair. < 1336734653 105138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It might end up downgrading GRUB, but that'll get fixed the next time Ubuntu updates it.) < 1336734866 833445 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I can't get wifi, it seems < 1336734870 155224 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1336734896 614212 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-127-161.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336734906 600901 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336734931 718175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Doesn't matte.r < 1336734933 622725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*matter. < 1336735000 578748 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It needs internet to run the thingy < 1336735001 190251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The red component of the diffuse reflection color. < 1336735013 19849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Oh, right. < 1336735020 662899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well... try the Ubuntu live medium again. < 1336735022 365495 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I've plugged in an ethernet cable < 1336735067 22651 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be working < 1336735116 935184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaey. < 1336735165 935522 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Together we're invincible < 1336735195 386493 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, url time < 1336735197 309222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rip. < 1336735281 724640 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if this works < 1336735313 933241 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1336735315 55555 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1336735316 104548 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1336735319 620443 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you elliott! < 1336735331 181053 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1336735335 25268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congraetulationse and yuoruea welcomae < 1336735407 298606 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-127-161.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336735457 507162 :Taneb!540d5857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.88.87 QUIT : < 1336735547 322235 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336735736 928802 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Any comments about the pronunciation in the videos? < 1336735738 176980 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95AFE.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336735748 308653 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m curious about the R thing. :-) < 1336735755 613223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I still didn't click them (and probably can't be bothered to unless you relink). < 1336735790 995870 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:13 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5867126092237181778 < 1336735793 420954 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:16 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6229002293145728844 < 1336735849 299413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Ah, the "viaRa" thing. < 1336735866 998372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'll find that were the narrator to end a sentence with "via", it would sound the same (with the perceived "r"). < 1336735877 799166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, not really. < 1336735893 815512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure exactly what's going on there -- you'd have to ask a linguist -- but the "r" seems rather implicit. < 1336735918 737108 :const!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336735920 666898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, it's not really there, it's just the two sounds adjacent to each other that end up bridged by one. < 1336735928 236869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks the second video. < 1336735936 25816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You realise Look Around You is on YouTube, right?) < 1336735967 148895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's definitely a quirk of the (deliberately exaggerated) accent. < 1336736002 657524 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just clicked on the first video results for my search terms, they happened to be at video.google.com. :-) < 1336736035 903866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask augur. :p < 1336736064 52927 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Ask augur. :p < 1336736132 934342 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336736138 738284 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336736143 802479 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's beautiful < 1336736169 462942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not. :''''''( < 1336736178 464876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''( < 1336736187 588946 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You are beautiful. < 1336736195 913000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Betaful. < 1336736199 626763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' < 1336736199 645486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''( < 1336736213 460404 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bæutiful < 1336736226 67760 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if I could comment on your beauty, the universe would explode < 1336736234 309625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hålp < 1336736236 986363 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You should prefix that with @@ @echo @echo @echo @echo < 1336736245 408197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @echo @echo @echo @echo hjålp < 1336736245 536398 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = "freenode", msgLBName = "lambdabot", msgPrefix = "elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott", msgCommand = "PRIVMSG", msgParams = ["#esoteric",":@@ @echo @echo @echo @ < 1336736245 607502 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo hj\195\165lp"]} rest:"echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = \"freenode\", msgLBName = \"lambdabot\", msgPrefix = \"elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott\", msgCommand = \"PRIVMSG\", msgParams = [\"# < 1336736245 625683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric\",\":@@ @echo @echo @echo @echo hj\\195\\165lp\"]} rest:\"echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = \\\"freenode\\\", msgLBName = \\\"lambdabot\\\", msgPrefix = \\\"elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/ < 1336736245 625885 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott\\\", msgCommand = \\\"PRIVMSG\\\", msgParams = [\\\"#esoteric\\\",\\\":@@ @echo @echo @echo @echo hj\\\\195\\\\165lp\\\"]} rest:\\\"echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = \\\\\\\"freenode\\\\\\\", < 1336736245 625992 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : msgLBName = \\\\\\\"lambdabot\\\\\\\", msgPrefix = \\\\\\\"elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott\\\\\\\", msgCommand = \\\\\\\"PRIVMSG\\\\\\\", msgParams = [\\\\\\\"#esoteric\\\\\\\",\\\\\\\":@@ @ < 1336736247 537493 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo @echo @echo @echo hj\\\\\\\\195\\\\\\\\165lp\\\\\\\"]} rest:\\\\\\\"hj\\\\\\\\195\\\\\\\\165lp\\\\\\\"\\\"\"" < 1336736260 912945 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1336736265 252061 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo foo < 1336736265 428194 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = "freenode", msgLBName = "lambdabot", msgPrefix = "kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net", msgCommand = "PRIVMSG", msgParams = ["#esoteric",":@echo foo"]} < 1336736265 497413 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest:"foo" < 1336736284 597651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if saying @print-notices in public would have lambdabot leak @tells to the channel, or if it has prevention against that. < 1336736289 99565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that I'm going to test.) < 1336736308 513644 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could test it in a private channel? < 1336736317 205958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'd have to make lambdabot join it. < 1336736321 650126 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, true < 1336736322 513755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suppose I could. < 1336736347 596237 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: y u so racist < 1336736355 817811 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :escaping non-ascii characters like they're second-class citizens < 1336736361 393146 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also “@time” any channel lambdabot is on (and any other channel without +n). < 1336736374 699309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : @time #haskell < 1336736401 555701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer: yes, @print-notices works in public. < 1336736411 397328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it has a special case for channels with only one person in them!!!! < 1336736437 926859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.@quit < 1336736445 905410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That felt too scary to even risk a space in front of.) < 1336736451 860356 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1336736512 564404 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm watching british TV from a youtube video which was captured by a screengrab program from the channel4.com website flash player < 1336736517 921317 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray computers < 1336736532 750163 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not 4oD? < 1336736536 82206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the Look Around You DVDs. < 1336736546 118715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should upload them to YouTube in HIGH-DEFINITION. :p < 1336736552 557073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume that's what kmc's watching, given the context, but maybe not.) < 1336736556 521169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, Look Around You is BBC. < 1336736564 734985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My country is complicated. : ( < 1336736567 691920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hjålp. < 1336736584 473849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it's "hjälp"? < 1336736585 913303 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get the LAY DVDs, too. < 1336736589 81939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's shitty. < 1336736597 606403 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twice the dots! < 1336736600 568603 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjälp sounds Swedish. < 1336736605 125060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjålp looks funnier, though. < 1336736608 232252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: It is. < 1336736621 574507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :hjålp http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1336736623 460796 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hjålp would be pronounced hjolp. < 1336736639 896446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in my mind. :( < 1336736648 755225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I'm watching Peep Show < 1336736650 926417 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a hard j or a soft j? < 1336736656 460860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Same thing. < 1336736672 602749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Look Around Your DVDs", the show about how to keep your DVD collection in order. < 1336736672 883764 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: As in “yes”, i think. < 1336736697 181798 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity512.html < 1336736805 473578 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: walking dog tiem < 1336736832 129457 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336736978 274444 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336736985 274015 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336737100 182870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒ < 1336737111 788619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :†_† < 1336737118 238750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :h¡alp < 1336737127 119207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :h√alp < 1336737132 350617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :≤hjalp≥ < 1336737145 627582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjÚlp < 1336737186 397249 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL60DDD0F77698B8EB < 1336737188 461733 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 <3 <3 < 1336737217 453501 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile in the 2370s https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/542294_467069256642918_122908054392375_2060207_456662483_n.jpg < 1336737221 708930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Hey, you haven't said a single thing in 2012. < 1336737239 625229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Rectify this. < 1336737252 968168 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc do you ever eat steak? < 1336737286 549269 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: He has spoken twice via HackEgo. < 1336737317 721945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that like when you contact the dead via a medium? < 1336737354 367118 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336737505 981340 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336737510 28672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: More like Benat, rightt? < 1336737511 506478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*right? < 1336737528 702676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Benat and Dvegn. < 1336737528 761435 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god how did you know < 1336737538 216887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1336737560 9799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :≈hjålp≈ < 1336737597 124621 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Taneb" is a reversal of a portmanteau of contractions of my and my brother's names < 1336737623 824953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is the "nat" for "Nathan"? < 1336737682 384482 :_niels!83b49825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.180.152.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336737703 594441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome _niels < 1336737711 630010 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​_niels: Welcome to the 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(For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336737716 939284 :_niels!83b49825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.180.152.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, elliott < 1336737731 145549 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes < 1336737776 699201 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336737842 816040 :_niels!83b49825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.180.152.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 + 2 < 1336737843 604950 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1336737848 599352 :_niels!83b49825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.180.152.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=] < 1336737889 394103 :_niels!83b49825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.180.152.37 PART :#esoteric < 1336737892 349440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fibs = 0 : 1 : zipWith (+) fibs (tail fibs) in fibs < 1336737893 165891 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946... < 1336737895 792298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, already? < 1336737908 410916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you recognise lambdabot and give up on #esoteric that quickly? < 1336737958 112974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow hjålp < 1336737958 285479 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2h3j456l7p < 1336737968 228679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Please fix fungot's Unicode support. It's not that hard. :( < 1336737968 743859 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i haven't looked. :p " nanotechnology" " i want") < 1336738112 355266 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install skype, recieve call on skype, skype freezes < 1336738113 391072 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1336738310 989480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should, since it'd just be a single preprocessing step thingie, since the fungespace cells are quite capable of holding any codepoints. < 1336738326 569207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1336738361 980756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, is hjÄ¥lp really so bad? < 1336738438 427835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336738444 143346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has completely ruined the purity of the hjålp. < 1336738463 52581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Technically I must note that it'd also be a postprocessing step thingy.) < 1336738467 744324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But think how much more useful ^ord would become! < 1336738546 668892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Maybe I'LL do it. < 1336738550 978094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1336738550 996492 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1336738564 839734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Where's the read loop. :( < 1336738582 860753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Line 56 does the main read. < 1336738601 721487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suppose it could as well go into the bit where it has extracted a full line out. < 1336738628 563430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Would that work for: UNICODE USERNAMES? < 1336738644 676471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could iterate over all of them or something. < 1336738653 455994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it seems like it'd be easier to just turn one string into one string. < 1336738676 410764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is complicated. :( < 1336738681 637371 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still turning just one string into one string when you do it after it's extracted a single line, before it gets split into fields. < 1336738724 890446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be around line 73; the parts below it expect there to be a single complete line somewhere. < 1336738740 235010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, I see what you mean. < 1336738746 450122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it be better to do it there, out of curiosity? < 1336738756 975609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also would this break the ^bf interpreter's input?) < 1336738797 406408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the only reason why it'd be better to do it after line-splitting (as opposed to immediately after the R) is that you wouldn't have to deal with incomplete UTF-8 sequences. < 1336738877 926711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At line 73, there's a single full line on fungespace line 3 that could be deutfied. (Based on the fact that the prefix-looking bit starts with 03g':-.) < 1336738897 538706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fungespace line 3"? < 1336738914 817072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, Y=3, X=0, 1, 2, ... and so on. < 1336738932 309621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't that be fungespace line 73? < 1336738934 668312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But that ^bf thing still worries me.) < 1336738941 725412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*And that, I suppose. < 1336738968 493337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean, the data is stored on "physical" Y-coordinate 3. < 1336738988 79378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, you mean the line itself? < 1336738990 664205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336738995 206054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1336738999 897685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's output done? (And what about bf?!?!?!) < 1336739006 196317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*^bf < 1336739094 210630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you'd need to do something w.r.t. ^bf, yes. I'm not entirely sure what. All the current programs are written in the "one cell, one character" logic. < 1336739111 27277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I suppose that's actually what you want, if you want things like ^rainbow to work. < 1336739115 542866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But OTOH, that would break the 8-bitness of it. < 1336739118 682067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is unfortunate. < 1336739120 289871 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336739133 311181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Though I'm not sure if there's anything that really depends on the 8-bit wrapping. < 1336739147 402605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the existing programs people have used, that is. < 1336739154 816434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's still nice to have, considering it's the only usable BF interpreter in the channel. < 1336739163 431850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could just fix ^rainbow itself. < 1336739174 506711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But knowing how many characters to wait before changing to the next colour in BF sounds... painful. < 1336739179 412130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF doesn't exactly have bitwise and. < 1336739205 763414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a true statement. < 1336739380 742720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for output, it's slightly more complicated. There are in fact several places that write to the socket. < 1336739397 356641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is rather badly-designed! < 1336739397 528846 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so do we still lack that thing anyway. < 1336739401 937589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yes. < 1336739402 454697 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's not much point. its always visible. only that too bloated is far better, qdb is inexplicably beating it in times. < 1336739413 366799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're always visible? < 1336739414 193131 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pygments is great. i cannot find -the- implementation for my first time here, can i make http://paste.phpfi.com/ fnord ( looks like we gonna have fun < 1336739415 333272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bloated is far better, yes. < 1336739436 320993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You apparently can't make it, since that pastebin seems to have died. Are we really gonna have fun? < 1336739443 968357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That wasn't 5 lines. < 1336739460 896533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's supposed to be four, I think. But it wasn't four either. < 1336739478 462978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you had some leftovers from a previous discussion. < 1336739491 81068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Make it speak to me. :( < 1336739498 6766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Speak to elliott. < 1336739498 523024 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it doesn't seem to support define-syntax? ( beyond the obvious mere existence of c code) < 1336739507 385628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do you support define-syntax? < 1336739514 788167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. No macros for me. :( < 1336739519 304950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You were right. < 1336739519 827502 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: multithreading is of course more productive in scheme, avoid set!, how would you fnord it? you can tell < 1336739523 318164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: The mere existence of C code isn't obvious to me! Sent from my @puter < 1336739523 832481 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what scheme system? probably. it'll be crazy and do your own thing" language. but to use a us keyboard mapping < 1336739545 40366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: No, not Scheme; @lang. It is, indeed, a "crazy and does my own thing" language. < 1336739545 252100 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, maybe i need to < 1336739546 282906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's much about Scheme today. < 1336739553 1684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Use @? Yes, you should. It's perfect. < 1336739553 367617 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you know c++? with templates? its just some number of continuations, though, < 1336739569 430329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: No! It's nothing like C++, and templates are an abomination! And what do continuations have to do with this? < 1336739569 772968 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it will work. i'll be here all week. try the --large command-line option. < 1336739575 516891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot --large < 1336739587 123375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're such a silly. < 1336739587 473084 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ' you have to go < 1336739592 294736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear. < 1336739595 616545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Rebelling against your maker, are we? < 1336739595 960990 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i am in error, by the way, < 1336739606 209590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Sounds like you're having a breakdown. < 1336739606 597323 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mm-hmm. openbsd does some tricky under-the-hood trickery ( not quite, sorry. :p < 1336739608 780387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact it was correct, I *do* have to go. < 1336739619 262693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: The trickery is tricky? Astonishing. < 1336739619 608631 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you, sir)) to use set! anywhere else? < 1336739626 295796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think he's going to mutate you. < 1336739630 148858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it's < 1336739632 81526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sorry, fungot.) < 1336739632 429251 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: please input two numbers to get the hostesses released! give them their own lines produces ugly output.) also, did you know < 1336739632 447155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scary. < 1336739639 842090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 3 7 < 1336739646 213223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Don't worry, you're free now. < 1336739663 298909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're so irrational. < 1336739663 642472 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you a student or professional? " i don't really understand what and how you can interpret it as " the wire" < 1336739681 627585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Well, he doesn't study, and he's not professional. < 1336739682 142357 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: recruit them for me even in rlwrap ( ie doesn't quit) < 1336739690 460289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You still want to recruit him knowing that? < 1336739690 799474 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so the point is that bill richter interprets incorrectly and out of it. < 1336739703 56677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Bill Ritcher, eh? < 1336739703 394274 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it ran... i ran upon a problem and found that 99% of them would not be useful < 1336739709 599415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Technically speaking I guess I am a student. I have a study right and all, I just enrolled the other day. < 1336739710 3070 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i may be imagining others, though, by about 12% of the us, too. < 1336739712 459924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: It's true, most problems aren't very useful at all. < 1336739712 636302 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: don't you have more than one? the interactive fiction language? < 1336739730 505250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: There are... multiple languages for writing interactive fiction in, yes. < 1336739730 845288 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fnord/ fnord/ fnord question 2. polecat, fnord, fnord < 1336739731 710161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I have to be going out now to see a man about a horse. (Well, no. But anyway.) < 1336739735 719758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Oh, come on. < 1336739736 204894 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's a bit more complex, but i think most scheme-c compilers compile for something that isn't c or bash :) ( there's also a function plotter, if i remember < 1336739814 535233 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.203 PART :#esoteric < 1336740194 95368 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95AFE.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336740214 33785 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336740805 719477 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: yeah i eat steak < 1336740811 254502 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once i cooked a steak sous vide < 1336740812 805040 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was great < 1336741002 168002 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do u know how sous vide works cheater_ < 1336741033 29843 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a poor diabetic, the things i crave most of all are fried potato chips and various kinds of kfc chicken pieces < 1336741086 568389 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also.. false teeth like movie stars have which are like screwon < 1336741099 550299 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fricken hate toothaches < 1336741168 463113 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the creator of Fortress Craft has replied to TWICE as many tweets of mine as the creator of Minecraft < 1336741174 149155 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly the former is a superior game < 1336741204 423349 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i have never tried, but i should < 1336741244 174095 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did it with minimal equipment < 1336741250 749351 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a pot of water, a ziploc bag, and a candy thermometer < 1336741290 539649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Hmm, DjArcas. Is that the loudmouthed moron they got to promote that thing? < 1336741295 536883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget who it was. < 1336741301 247005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think it started with "Dj". < 1336741306 800481 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next step up is a beer cooler < 1336741309 944736 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336741334 863783 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, i know it's "easy" < 1336741347 135783 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I believe he's also the creator < 1336741348 193895 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a candy thermometer, why do you need that specifically? < 1336741355 434765 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of candy < 1336741360 790966 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the steak i cooked today was amazing < 1336741367 440407 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like flesh-flavoured candy < 1336741382 816334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I remember is reports of him flipping out and calling people gay at the slightest provocation. < 1336741384 628538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good PR. < 1336741426 12339 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fried it in french orange mustard (nearly like jam/jelly), with red peppers and ginger, and some italian mustard apples < 1336741429 980024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("The slightest provocation" being "people saying they don't like FortressCraft".) < 1336741444 400463 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1336741539 57448 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like him, yeah < 1336741707 987317 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fortresscraft better? < 1336741727 616685 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks nicer < 1336741771 709230 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably would have bought minecraft if i had online money.. < 1336741774 101978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For bad values of "better".) < 1336741778 571285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Especially if you use Painterly on the Minecraft side.) < 1336741808 916680 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: TIME TO GO < 1336741815 298276 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not something i enjoy thinking about today because i just gave my mum all my money, and apparently have to visit both my grandmas for mothers day < 1336741884 484675 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the back of my mind with games like this im always telling myself i could do this better, and i could be richer from this, if only i was the one who did it < 1336742017 790547 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why are 500% more people registering at minecraft.net than buying the game!?! < 1336742224 185028 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: you need a thermometer because the point of sous vide is to keep the meat at a constant temperature for a long time < 1336742228 318568 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the inside reaches that temperature < 1336742276 963974 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't need to be a candy thermometer specifically < 1336742307 682359 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you want like a couple °F precision, in the range 130°F to 140°F < 1336742324 754973 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheap candy thermometer has these properties and can be found in a regular grocery store < 1336742435 976891 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my life sucks in a first world problems kind of way. if only i could exploit the problems in my life for capitalist gain. < 1336742488 135991 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what < 1336742495 106592 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an electric hotplate < 1336742507 742525 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you could arduino a sous vide automat < 1336742575 96637 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll totally do it once i can buy a power relay < 1336742609 492045 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336742622 338656 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :relay is easy, you probably want feedback though < 1336742637 436937 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the feedback is the thermometer < 1336742640 666547 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fagduino < 1336742661 181018 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to build a temperature controller for another project but i fried the thermocouple driver chip due to failure to read datasheet < 1336742664 591052 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it's not hard in principle < 1336742698 141603 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :could this be my unique chance to do something useful with a PID < 1336742721 159577 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was for soldering oven temperatures and so a thermocouple was probably the right answer < 1336742721 674529 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonders if fried the thermocouple almost counts as a pun in the topic of cooking < 1336742742 393895 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arduino.cc/playground/Code/PIDLibrary < 1336742745 843562 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336742753 160577 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"processing.org frontend" < 1336742762 65308 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i can create a sous vide visualization < 1336742769 124863 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for sous vide temperatures you could use a 1-wire temperature sensor like DS18B20 < 1336742774 810364 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and veejay it to remote places via direct isdn uplink < 1336742789 205388 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even on sparkfun it's only $10 in a sealed package: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/11050 < 1336742789 383459 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know so much about electronics kmc < 1336742837 828017 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that will interface directly to any microcontroller < 1336742841 847278 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should do this < 1336742845 134578 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1336742847 548153 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already have the heating element too < 1336742848 584520 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for great glory < 1336742857 913347 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was dreading it because i forgot it would be much easier than the thermocouple thing < 1336742860 320415 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not make it work with a hotplate < 1336742891 233515 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this one suggests a rice cooker < 1336742907 905432 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotplate is easier, because more people have one and it's cheap and small < 1336742919 611950 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :more approachable for people < 1336742931 682470 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rice cooker is too small to hold multiple large steaks < 1336742934 439126 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rice cooker is a fairly specific utensil you normally don't have < 1336742935 821243 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1336742939 266923 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll go for the beer cooler with the heating element i already have < 1336742950 291966 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too, i was just going to say you could just use a big pot < 1336742951 431473 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which won't be enough to get it up to temp < 1336742951 774643 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336742954 17380 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :beer cooler? < 1336742961 44326 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but should keep it at temp < 1336742965 695482 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i will just fill it with hot water to start < 1336742976 141611 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't be so sure < 1336742992 958953 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :from experience, heating stuff is a thing that either works or doesn't < 1336742995 368968 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if "beer cooler" is the right term < 1336743006 53602 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean like those insulated plastic bins you pack with ice and beer < 1336743010 720227 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no way to "give it a shove" < 1336743019 281941 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice chest? < 1336743033 244189 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336743046 379649 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like this http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1342596&cp=11925755.2614192 < 1336743060 423887 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336743105 12592 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice chest < 1336743124 863406 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or yeah, just Rubbermaid® Victory Cooler < 1336743138 910440 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc, what do u think of my idea < 1336743151 719293 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking at alsa paints last night when i couldn't sleep < 1336743156 754380 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i noticed they have a rubberizing paint < 1336743164 245937 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so: keyboard with rubberized keycaps? < 1336743175 182033 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Like" or "Fail"? < 1336743197 414364 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have to try it cheater < 1336743219 692428 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i think so too < 1336743229 971289 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, rubberized knobs on equipment are the dog's bollocks < 1336743249 494402 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they use this paint for cutlery and other daily use stuff, so it's not something that'll wear off < 1336743292 202426 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these coolers are pretty well insulated so I think a small heater should suffice to maintain temperature < 1336743322 459329 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish they had ratings in watts per kelvin or whatever < 1336743342 49809 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice "pretty well insulated" still means if you have ice in it then it'll melt fairly quickly < 1336743359 990695 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need a heater which can at least withstand the amount of energy being expelled < 1336743382 881605 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably very near to the heater that you need to heat it up in the first place < 1336743391 722654 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just buy a 10 bucks hotplate? < 1336743413 718464 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like the rational choice < 1336743416 313747 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how that follows cheater < 1336743420 786503 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, we should write an article on rationalwiki < 1336743436 985743 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which part can you not see the logical sequence of, kmc? < 1336743467 793715 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting a bunch of water from 23°C to 57°C in an acceptable amount of time will take a much larger heater than keeping it at 57° in an insulated container < 1336743475 724955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1336743537 99366 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probably right < 1336743544 196050 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna run the numbers, one sec < 1336743545 918169 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am not sure either way < 1336743551 716077 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, there's physics < 1336743569 275704 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how can you measure the amount of heat being lost through the insulation? < 1336743582 682597 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will approximate it by the thermal conductivity of styrofoam < 1336743621 811222 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have the area and thickness < 1336743631 378262 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the edges will be less conductive < 1336743736 72905 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say a cube 30 cm on a side with 3 cm styrofoam insulation < 1336743746 75373 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1336743759 928134 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :work your magic, carl < 1336743776 792606 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 0.54 m² surface area < 1336743825 607210 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thermal conductivity of styrofoam is 0.03 W / (K * m) according to A Website < 1336743843 33742 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia < 1336743849 970006 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.03 W / (K * m) * 0.54 m² / 3 cm * (57 - 23) K < 1336743854 209125 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric := 18 watts < 1336743886 816828 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your heating element 18 watts < 1336743896 160770 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'd double up on that < 1336743920 610667 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cheap hotplate is like 800 watts < 1336743927 623003 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1336743932 643749 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about my element < 1336743948 49099 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc < 1336743948 217579 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a small thing you put in a mug of water to make tea < 1336743950 525581 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :show me your element < 1336743954 641630 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1336743958 433093 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nudge nudge* < 1336743987 557624 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Travel-Immersion-Water-Heater-Voltage/dp/B000AXS0UE < 1336743993 83456 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heating immersion 125 watt coil quickly heats up water < 1336744004 263471 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am suggesting this is similar to your thing < 1336744023 406703 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOWEVER, you might be in for a problem < 1336744031 331162 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says 125 W < 1336744038 52107 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go < 1336744039 812935 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's exactly like that one < 1336744043 776700 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i totally oracled you < 1336744050 864254 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am you from the future < 1336744070 239989 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is in normal sous vide cooking, you're heating a hot plate which heats a pot which heats water which heats the meat < 1336744085 844694 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336744096 960794 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of very sluggish heat capacitance < 1336744109 114953 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works like a low pass filter for heat < 1336744113 947369 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also spreads it evenly < 1336744120 75915 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :here you are heating water directly which heats the meat < 1336744124 902514 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might end up with a pocket of heat < 1336744138 376444 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which may or may not be advisable < 1336744172 446628 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way, the pot full of water is by far most of the thermal mass < 1336744178 654692 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336744183 650054 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1336744192 308826 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336744197 125826 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in sous vide you put a pot in a pot < 1336744198 159509 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1336744200 745907 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think this cooler full of water will hold temperature fine < 1336744209 439157 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am i wrong here < 1336744212 31184 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might need something to circulate the water though < 1336744216 20105 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: not necessarily < 1336744224 650601 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i thought you might need the circulation < 1336744225 505180 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put food inside a bag inside a water bath < 1336744230 674136 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so have you ever made sous vide before? < 1336744234 132117 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336744237 400424 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did sous vide steak twice < 1336744237 419060 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it good? < 1336744244 996133 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was delicious < 1336744252 406274 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the difference < 1336744256 885834 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did like 135°F for an hour < 1336744277 248964 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a foolproof way to get the exact level of rare / well-done you like < 1336744287 473431 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :an hour is not that long < 1336744291 830777 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's not < 1336744293 971619 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the idea was to have it on very long < 1336744298 628553 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sous vide recipes are like 24 hours plus < 1336744303 808221 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for beef it's not necessary apparently < 1336744305 876739 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cooked steaks in a pot for an hour < 1336744308 810319 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need to get the inside up to temperature < 1336744314 96048 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like with sauce < 1336744332 835842 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't know that < 1336744338 81906 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :when is 24 hours mandatory? < 1336744341 87127 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1336744384 501826 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1336744389 618266 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no chef, i can barely cook kraft mac & cheese < 1336744398 841910 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the sous vide stuff seemed easy and fun and sciency < 1336744399 367365 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurr < 1336744406 822034 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, steak comes natural to me too < 1336744416 855863 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i go to restaurants and they never make it as good as i do < 1336744420 129332 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with sous vde steak you do want to fry or grill it briefly < 1336744422 887291 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't cook for my life < 1336744425 642028 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336744428 780021 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sear < 1336744430 163322 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1336744430 337261 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get the outside all burnt & crispy < 1336744431 63676 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336744438 990209 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bought a steel pan especially for steak < 1336744448 684643 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i wouldn't do this candied steak in it < 1336744459 798984 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if a crème brûlée torch would work < 1336744462 900629 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :had to use a tefal pan because you gotta burn the mustard < 1336744470 567211 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it carmelizes < 1336744473 701526 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :caramelizes < 1336744474 365491 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1336744482 977934 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :creme brulee wouldn't work < 1336744488 708591 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the thing has to sear into the meat < 1336744497 860936 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly i fry stuff in cast iron pans < 1336744520 727932 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i did was spread a 4 mm coat of that mustard on the cold pan where the steak would be < 1336744533 406471 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i put the steak on that and put the pan on the heat < 1336744541 859289 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :waited until it started searing < 1336744546 30620 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no oil or anything < 1336744552 57044 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336744603 432832 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i applied spices (lots of ginger, it disappears later on, lots of red pepper) and then put the mustard on the top (still raw side) < 1336744604 986578 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip once < 1336744619 575159 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sear the other side < 1336744625 89793 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first side looked really nice too < 1336744637 681911 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the mustard is carmelizing when it starts foaming up < 1336744695 935428 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mustard you want isn't the usual sour stuff, it should look like orange jelly, the kind you put on toast, but it tastes tart < 1336744739 335816 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336744765 347077 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc do you know the difference between vector and superscalar? < 1336745107 480563 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in processors? < 1336745129 281275 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336745130 658533 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that steak sounds really nice < 1336745134 278803 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found out already tho < 1336745136 522162 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1336745142 433222 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it was amazing < 1336745150 764786 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did it several times now and it's always better < 1336745158 818092 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to perfect the recipe < 1336745169 201345 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time i'll use much more ginger because it was like not there at all < 1336745240 581507 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ginger is good < 1336745242 516068 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe long pepper < 1336745245 456551 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you ever cook with szechuan pepper < 1336745253 421181 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of it < 1336745255 888781 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it wouldn't fit < 1336745267 588891 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i have is too alkaline < 1336745273 882299 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for lack of a better description < 1336745282 218178 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this stuff is sweet and sour < 1336745287 944844 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bitter < 1336745318 180724 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever tried long pepper < 1336745328 197081 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never heard of it until i found it at a christmas fair last year < 1336745363 405050 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i say < 1336745366 510867 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :winter solstice fair < 1336745366 852733 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336745539 5171 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: apparently ebay has a lot of ready pid controllers < 1336745545 915362 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just search for "temperature kiln" < 1336745773 116004 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336745776 904848 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336745797 197188 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow super cheap < 1336745835 773139 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the cheapest you found? < 1336745845 854724 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll probably build it myself though < 1336745864 250604 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be a super easy build < 1336745878 27063 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would amuse me to have something that plugs into my laptop < 1336745896 47358 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is pid that easy < 1336745899 370348 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a good excuse to learn some basic control theory < 1336745910 451726 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the learning is there for me too < 1336745915 649654 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the incentive < 1336745927 624345 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be cool to see the temperature graph with the element on/off indications < 1336745930 661223 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in realtime < 1336745951 414014 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.instructables.com/id/Segstick/ here's a fun build project, which includes some PID control < 1336745957 444159 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard realtime or soft realtime < 1336745964 168888 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol just soft < 1336745965 550773 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*niggle* < 1336745966 415325 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for UI < 1336745976 967295 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just fucking with ya. < 1336745981 205740 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_ you niggler < 1336746002 111482 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc you crackler < 1336746078 129492 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap crackle and php < 1336746432 856695 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336746487 885283 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? for some reason I have internationale on my touhou playlist... < 1336746878 149121 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny < 1336746884 816522 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm learning basic italian < 1336746889 823899 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can already understand some spanish < 1336746894 660413 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :those languages are closer than i thought < 1336746903 890476 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like polish and czech or latvian or russian < 1336746910 448653 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are pretty close themselves < 1336746937 554891 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like german and dutch < 1336747182 56744 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336747408 665636 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1336747412 141105 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_ Latcvia < 1336747420 560467 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_ Latvian isn't close to Slavic languages really < 1336747435 331815 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean Latvian vs. Lithuanian?" < 1336747437 64547 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are closer < 1336747600 120738 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i meant to polish < 1336747621 983820 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :;o < 1336747919 942450 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: i might visit baltic states / eastern europe / etc this summer < 1336747923 388471 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anywhere i should go or avoid? < 1336747932 867744 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336747936 146058 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :baltic states < 1336747937 904033 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :to both < 1336747966 637164 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more so to the latter < 1336747974 171395 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-227-105.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336747975 85072 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :much more < 1336748005 347503 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you will go to jail if you don't go to said baltic states, there's no reason to go there < 1336748023 735222 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :any amount of illness or misfortune is preferable < 1336748352 362206 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you figure out if Touch is good or bad yet < 1336748518 858054 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4567.html < 1336748899 604428 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: it's definitely very bad < 1336748902 880996 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also kind of interesting < 1336748917 166587 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not watching < 1336749057 320449 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the math / science / philosophy is beyond nonsensical < 1336749061 681985 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, i can suspend disbelief < 1336749085 289570 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not one of those people who will complain because a character says "centrifugal" instead of "centripetal", or that the Linux box looks more like a SunOS 2 machine < 1336749094 890954 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this show is really pushing it < 1336749114 29662 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like Numbers < 1336749125 591527 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's far worse than NUMB3RS < 1336749139 124251 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the movie Pi except without the good writing or acting or directing < 1336749197 773219 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of it reminds me of the trailer for The Numberwang Code < 1336749205 9033 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could never watch it < 1336749210 575830 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like this kid writes a 6 on a piece of paper and everyone is like "WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?!??" < 1336749210 921858 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand Pi was amazing < 1336749224 300087 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means < 1336749226 714486 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :NUMBERWANG!!! < 1336749231 372442 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this other guy has a win-big hold 'em poker strategy which is based entirely on him memorizing a short sequence of small numbers < 1336749233 269263 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should really make a fictional film with 100% mathematical and scientific accuracy < 1336749243 994675 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same sequence which is also the key to life the universe and everything < 1336749260 607320 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also just make other shit up whenever it suits them < 1336749278 137234 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like they decided that the ISS has regular blackout periods where they can't communicate with earth < 1336749281 964622 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you never had a situation like Pi in your life < 1336749282 617032 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because it suits the plot < 1336749283 664104 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1336749295 249451 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sitting around in your flat for weeks not going out < 1336749298 949825 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacking away at some shit < 1336749304 928301 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you come out and everyone feels so alien < 1336749312 181452 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's what pi is about < 1336749313 558309 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you get kidnapped by orthodox jews < 1336749319 768576 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you drill your brains out with a power drill and go to heaven < 1336749321 62055 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1336749321 923635 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's happened to me < 1336749338 121619 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: i have experienced that... but to me it's not just people but the entire environment < 1336749338 810539 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also one time i was riding the subway and found a bare human brain sitting on the platform < 1336749347 410894 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336749347 565361 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc ok then you know what i mean < 1336749353 766312 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: yeah, exactly < 1336749369 12451 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know that feeling... i don't particularly enjoy it < 1336749381 260124 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infact i dread it < 1336749382 316610 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so what else about Touch < 1336749396 765738 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are really unsubtle about the simplistic emotions you are supposed to experience while watching it < 1336749405 604818 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't seen pi thouhg < 1336749405 778208 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: it's weird alright < 1336749410 945984 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: you should < 1336749428 755986 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dialogue is terrible, a lot of it is just characters saying things they would never realistically say so that the audience is not confused < 1336749441 191721 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sounds like everything i hate about tv series < 1336749455 108105 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chea:so.. if the problem is gradually being identified maybe i can get a pill or therapy for it within a decade! < 1336749457 964682 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1336749461 564273 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: so.. if the problem is gradually being identified maybe i can get a pill or therapy for it within a decade! < 1336749474 189649 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do what the character did in the end < 1336749478 804284 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :worked for him < 1336749485 186426 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a plan.. < 1336749489 145013 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i certainly have a plan < 1336749494 724808 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do you have a drill? < 1336749501 734860 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they had a blatant Magic Negro character but I guess i already complained about that < 1336749502 420081 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh no < 1336749529 936395 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:22 restate my assumptions: 1. kmc is a troll < 1336749533 901376 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336749540 632400 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@remember 16:22 restate my assumptions: 1. kmc is a troll < 1336749540 833702 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is stored. < 1336749558 620405 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: but you said he was hacking away at something... and you're saying this wasn't enough to save him < 1336749560 547758 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336749561 624330 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a concern < 1336749572 795741 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the problem that he didn't hack away good enough? < 1336749574 155899 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just watch the movie < 1336749581 50106 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he hacked to good < 1336749585 884061 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: no the problem is that he was too good < 1336749586 229412 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he totally disconnected < 1336749587 779337 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should watch it < 1336749589 849632 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was in the flow for too long < 1336749591 265889 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the zone < 1336749592 951072 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you should watch Requiem for a Dream < 1336749614 2027 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was so deep into it he completely dissociated the real world < 1336749617 277656 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you'll probably want to die < 1336749626 799240 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna watch requiem < 1336749628 357504 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but didn't < 1336749632 669598 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1336749634 959148 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a really good film < 1336749635 304485 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i < 1336749638 69277 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with good music < 1336749639 507905 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336749669 379188 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: what i have realized is that the problem i have centers around the whole idea of reflecting on past information with new information < 1336749679 52212 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unnecessarily < 1336749681 293977 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Requiem.For.A.Dream.2000.720p.BluRay.x264-SiNNERS.mkv < 1336749686 642302 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the past information is just fine as it is < 1336749693 400212 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: no idea what you mean. < 1336749725 628280 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. like the focuses of an adult are different than those of a child < 1336749755 879283 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and.. after, lets say, spending too much time indoors and concentrating on certain ideas < 1336749772 105337 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then.. we have new perspectives with which to view our past < 1336749780 922388 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if these new perspectives are garbage < 1336749806 105909 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they < 1336749816 592424 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're depressing they are < 1336749818 350268 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realized last year i don't hate buttermilk < 1336749823 176155 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did as a kid having never tried any < 1336749838 794831 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because butter + milk = yech < 1336749841 64744 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new perspective wasn't garbage < 1336749903 999547 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lets say.. activites we once enjoyed which we think are silly now < 1336749909 523519 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should they be silly? < 1336749933 357505 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1336749947 544427 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, isolation probably isn't good < 1336749957 123215 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isolation is hard to really escape < 1336750006 194278 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: hah.. heres the video i recommend for the protagonist of Pi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCnHWas3HQ < 1336750013 982604 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the words are very telling < 1336750020 4731 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and easy to ignore < 1336750040 240817 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine this song in the context of Pi < 1336750092 618721 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it starts with violins droning and tuning < 1336750095 925755 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally hipster film < 1336750110 232985 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll make a tshirt with a screencap < 1336750115 574658 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll get me the ladies < 1336750148 583030 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always thought this song was just an old-person song < 1336750386 490298 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When you've got worries all the noise and the hurry seems to help, I know." < 1336750401 679762 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just listen to the music of the traffic in the city." < 1336750466 270400 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's actually a good idea, from a psychiatric point of view < 1336750471 632315 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is it ok to be having three stakes < 1336750474 733634 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :steaks < 1336750475 449464 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a day < 1336750479 215219 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336750487 318092 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna cook these two cuts with szechuan pepper < 1336750490 940674 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some german spice < 1336750504 737863 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1336750511 970432 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if szechuan pepper would go with steak < 1336750568 510663 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite dish at the local szechuan restaurant is called "spicy beef with cumin" < 1336750574 22981 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to describe its properties exactly < 1336750597 640476 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the beef is fried in delicious batter or something < 1336750607 666463 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's super spicy and szechuan-peppery < 1336750641 845714 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's fairy different from the spicy hunan beef with cumin that i find easily by google < 1336750647 211475 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: do you know how to make good currywurst sauce < 1336750661 445228 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing that heinz ketchup + curry powder is not ideal < 1336751037 791193 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336751245 333085 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336751252 390952 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a specific very cheap ketchup < 1336751260 197419 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a lot of starch < 1336751271 921683 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1336751273 309825 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wrong < 1336751281 95724 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's fairly watery and somewhat jelly like < 1336751282 654501 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sweet < 1336751360 860101 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as you know i am offended by the idea of currywurst < 1336751398 153995 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, tip for authenticity < 1336751411 264045 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :all currywurst stands have a special currywurst cutter < 1336751417 643215 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a machine where you enter the currywurst at the top < 1336751444 441793 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it slices it into slices of random 1-2 cm thickness < 1336751465 542656 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is put on a rectangular paper tray < 1336751469 677222 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then ketchup on top < 1336751476 609662 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then curry powder at your own leisure < 1336751505 581151 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course make sure those machines are Turing complete(well, unfortunately that's not possible unless we're talking virtual curryworst) < 1336751516 895941 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wurst < 1336751534 714152 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wurst, indeed < 1336751555 478342 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wurst is better < 1336751565 818084 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been cutting with knife < 1336751584 275437 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your description of the ketchup sounds like standard cheap american ketchup < 1336751589 661667 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for jelly-like < 1336751590 869191 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so this spice i just used, called bockhornkleesaat, seems to be relatively unknown < 1336751604 600366 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah the jelly like is just pedantism on my side, disregard < 1336751606 328090 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very watery < 1336751618 774022 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in germany currywurst is the food of the lowest classes < 1336751635 905500 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: well like salmon swimming against the current, it's easy to forget that relaxing with a bit of sport and a beer can be good for you < 1336751643 484110 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: it's related to fenugreek? < 1336751649 859692 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is fenugreek < 1336751650 884855 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bockhornkleesaat < 1336751652 273274 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336751652 291546 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it popular? < 1336751656 236800 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have heard of it < 1336751661 589727 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in every shop here < 1336751668 827953 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what the hitlers use it for < 1336751676 246163 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those things you look at and have no idea < 1336751684 344305 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways it goes well with the szechuan pepper < 1336751688 562389 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's fairly alkaline too < 1336751691 489304 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some rosemary < 1336751703 32400 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it fenugreek seeds or fenugreek leaves? < 1336751715 970370 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :seed < 1336751720 628797 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336751726 604041 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ground < 1336752306 852117 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336752319 605802 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see two kids shlepping a tv across the city < 1336752321 154448 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1336752346 22167 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'll tell kmc i see two kids shlepping a tv across the city, and that they probably want to use it to make drugs" < 1336752351 509865 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they start talking about making drugs < 1336752356 236028 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolo < 1336752371 305251 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336752378 747487 :cheater_!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1336752418 71420 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336752461 298992 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1336752465 453430 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not an emoquit < 1336753368 698063 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-226-166.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336753417 54646 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-233-179.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336753580 841453 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@85.162.90.89 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336754003 937574 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336754036 383655 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336754036 440347 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336754036 440485 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336754127 502850 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336754127 521111 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336754127 521242 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336754193 668791 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1336754355 531412 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336755140 939763 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Narrative&diff=cur&oldid=488999882 < 1336755716 930551 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1336755717 68878 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1336755739 891744 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bacon < 1336755740 20961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1336755743 856539 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336755836 289216 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Living witout X has been very easy. It is actually easier for me than living with X < 1336755836 982988 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://lh6.ggpht.com/-DIU4wNe0EpY/T6DHvL3l0lI/AAAAAAAAWps/utau6yOyKt0/02-Desktop3%25255B5%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800 < 1336755853 209004 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is alternative to X? < 1336755858 380472 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :eggs11 < 1336755864 760384 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :eggsorg < 1336755875 274658 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, what are you using in place of X? < 1336755879 67611 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: framebuffer and console apps < 1336755891 678913 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :framebuffer? < 1336755912 565570 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: I am also trying to get ManaGeR to compile (it was designed for Linux 1.x) < 1336755929 677040 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of thing is framebuffer? < 1336755937 265855 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: linux framebbuffer, also known as fbdev < 1336755971 989630 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i recently ranted about how gui is bad < 1336755973 716637 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336755989 59042 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you are living the truth < 1336756000 466421 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is ManaGeR < 1336756017 368876 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: it makes possible larger virtual consoles and with it I can use simple graphics in virtual consoles (I use links2 and mplayer with framebuffer) < 1336756066 830884 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: very old GUI combining Graphics server, WM and terminal emulator in sama package < 1336756071 737015 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336756083 545445 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: the main point of my rant was that windows are not as useful as they propose to be < 1336756099 57855 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: where can I read your rant? < 1336756113 18081 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh.. it was short... and i didnt complete it but i will find it < 1336756113 539738 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: http://conal.net/blog/posts/tangible-functional-programming-a-modern-marriage-of-usability-and-composability < 1336756132 858738 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm.. just need to remember what words i used :D < 1336756167 201997 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [i]tidus multi tasking < 1336756200 721652 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336756204 279367 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [i]tidus multi tasking < 1336756218 788822 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336756224 752981 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [i]tidus multi < 1336756226 993407 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [i]tidus multitasking < 1336756239 993021 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336756240 11281 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336756255 977130 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres probably a good explanation for this.. but i will just find it < 1336756336 65534 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-05-09#155943itidus21 < 1336756354 151335 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case for a few pages i ramble about some of these things < 1336756428 191640 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, i didn't fully flesh out my ideas. < 1336756452 952630 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, the gui systems were rushed to market without any real thought < 1336756512 174213 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly there is no good reason for why you even need multiple windows. < 1336756573 915193 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what we see is that browsers adopt the purely tabbed model... this is how operating systems should really have been < 1336756592 94601 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: do you mean multiple windows as in many windows on screen at the same time or multiple output buffers < 1336756619 130964 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many windows on screen... it's just pointless < 1336756642 993081 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i would feel lost without it. and i would feel greatly deprived of something < 1336756647 383656 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1336756734 878948 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to have two terminals next to each other < 1336756739 361743 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :each occupying half the screen < 1336756753 843370 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could do this with screen or emacs instead of X, but that's pretty arbitrary < 1336756755 392053 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe fixed window shapes is a good idea < 1336756761 612522 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like to have a browser next to a terminal < 1336756766 653453 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: I thought the same way before I removed X. Now I see no reason to have more than 2 windows on screen at a time < 1336756783 122760 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 windows = like a codex :D < 1336756787 944421 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :overlapping windows are almost useless though < 1336756811 284054 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mainly use them when i don't want to fight with xmonad's primitive and clunky notion of layout < 1336756819 561036 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am on windows xp though < 1336756836 486576 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so overlapping windows is thrusted down upon me < 1336756864 727011 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, perhaps as a sign of my latent intelligence i have dared to question it < 1336756872 330613 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: I tend to use two viewports and swapping windows in and out using gnu screen. I honestly don't see why would anyone need more than two tiled windows < 1336756888 954650 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: depends how big your monitor is < 1336756895 342415 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: it seems that 2 windows is like when you fold open a book. < 1336756900 855112 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the left page and right page < 1336756907 447988 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a widescreen monitor that would fit three 80-column terminals side by side < 1336756910 397077 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is useful < 1336756977 577055 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps 1 window is "not enough" < 1336756990 713677 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on a widescreen.. 1 window would feel a bit silly < 1336756994 162239 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its begging for 2 < 1336757079 953785 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think a nice setup is two widescreen monitors, one landscape and one portrait < 1336757121 37049 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mind if an application has subwindows etc < 1336757137 519919 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but theres no reason for the top level to have subwindows < 1336757154 244783 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to see two applications at once? < 1336757169 592200 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :web browser for docs + terminal for code editor < 1336757170 454212 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it's great for something like photoshop or flash to have lots of little windows < 1336757236 967609 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just remember that when i was using dos.. i never thought "geez i wish i had multiple apps at one time < 1336757283 380535 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i admit that theres good reasons for things < 1336757294 592217 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://images.4chan.org/mu/src/1336752176872.png pic related < 1336757354 736953 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr++ < 1336757364 621045 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: real hackers < 1336757490 341596 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides powerdrills from the real nef < 1336757667 503272 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no.. i am sort of nef < 1336757714 256763 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he has a gf and a laptop < 1336757810 933721 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nef uses shubshub caps < 1336758048 373973 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't quite put a finger on it but i would like to see a form of programming which is [stops to think] ahh humm < 1336758094 132872 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be the most extreme form of compiler/interpreter writing? perhaps if you wrote the compiler/interpreter only and the computer generated code? < 1336758102 261264 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source code < 1336758102 428295 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1336758129 543257 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336758138 272597 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: the most extreme form is to BUILD IT OUT OF K'NEX PIECES < 1336758149 759177 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought fungot was a human for a moment there < 1336758149 937097 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: should be!... ' ed? riastradh, don't have the time < 1336758188 805998 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the word extreme was not illustrative on my part < 1336758234 576673 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, if writing source code is about following rules then writing compilers/interpreters is about creating rules < 1336758269 959963 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you always need one to create the other eh < 1336758342 551853 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what do i have in mind? < 1336758359 825321 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the BASIC of compiler compilers < 1336758395 2737 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets have 10 year olds writing compilers day in day out < 1336758408 801075 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336758410 353715 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stop pretending it's so hard to do < 1336758411 556991 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what the world needs is more programming languages designed by ignorant amateurs < 1336758417 95473 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1336758420 78254 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just a few < 1336758424 42339 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :millions < 1336758429 43783 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all designing a programming language is just a matter of picking symbols that look nice < 1336758470 932703 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly though it is cool to show people that compilers aren't magic, here's how they work < 1336758481 447373 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your compiler construction kit may or may not demonstrate that < 1336758493 784078 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with my nef project is < 1336758515 949978 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that simply having a compiler is not much use on it's own < 1336758568 416694 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no real reason for kids to even want their own compilers < 1336758606 103674 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since their languages will be trashy like a good 30 line BASIC program < 1336758784 456463 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am calling it nef because it is the nef side of me which would propose such a thing even though i am ignorant on so many related fields < 1336758867 583201 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really have this whole contempt for compilers < 1336758911 94485 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336759359 725697 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the poet in me can explain the issue < 1336759431 483051 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from an ocean beach looking at the horizon, the wise man realizes he cannot swim as far as the horizon extends < 1336759520 155978 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: its called an intrusive r < 1336759522 915159 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the fool is thinking, whether 50 yards or to the extent of the horizon swimming is swimming. < 1336759557 108916 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: many british english dialects are "non-rhotic" which means that final r's, especially after an "uh" like sound, are not pronounced < 1336759588 187245 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336759605 252897 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a consequence, it's not uncommon for some of those dialects to over-analyze words ending in "uh" as actually being words that end in r, which has been deleted because of that deletion rule < 1336759605 769428 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't quite know what i am describing... another way to say it is that, it is not until one has learned to drive that one can appreciate the skills of a master of driving < 1336759646 886846 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: but, when this final r is between words, it can emerge because it's not strictly final, at least not over the whole utterance < 1336759653 259271 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh.. it is not until one has learned to make and place a brick, that one realizes he cannot build the tower of babel < 1336759655 901433 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like liaison in french < 1336759761 651362 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like everyone who has done their 10,000 hours in some field probably has a good instinctive intuitive feel of what is truely challenging and what is not < 1336759836 237720 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336759844 742967 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART :#esoteric < 1336759966 851539 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh.. like for the author.. the joy of "i wrote a novel" versus the ideal of "i solved novel writing mathematically" < 1336760175 755434 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: actually I have two windows which are up and down windows. not leaft and right < 1336760251 652199 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is my main confusion in lambda calculus.. looking for some magical summary of what LC can do beyond it's stated rules < 1336760325 360864 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uh.. with arithmetic there are instances of numbers around me everyday < 1336760347 829415 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gives me a fair idea of how big the numbers are i can expect to worry about day to day < 1336760361 103870 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: my setup if following: tty1:links, tty2:irssi, tty3:gnu screen, tty4:hammer and sicle, uptime, free, who and df < 1336760402 31251 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with LC.. there is no exhibits < 1336760479 361806 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what it can do is all computations < 1336760518 856696 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. like.. you see.. should i think of computations as in the kind of apps i have on my pc? < 1336760550 642007 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like.. uh.. astronomy we tend to focus on local solar system < 1336760758 121302 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should let it go < 1336761049 463461 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of amazed this works: http://i.imgur.com/6QpIO.png < 1336762197 256994 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what i like best about them paddy chicks kmc < 1336762198 848868 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aewf < 1336762199 76429 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 19 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1336762283 806347 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-152-179.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336762434 267130 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-227-105.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336762477 395142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336762512 506441 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ kmc < 1336762518 36402 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm finishing this movie < 1336762533 402425 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's another 20 minutes and i don't know if i can make it < 1336762562 269182 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1336762710 183267 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336762715 162976 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336762821 354626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336762821 576172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336762831 301205 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just been to THE THEATRE < 1336762836 575666 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not quite the theatre < 1336762871 127252 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*actually AS level drama exam < 1336762871 312725 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the dictionary to compile: "to translate (a computer program) from a high-level language into another language, usually machine language, using a compiler. " < 1336762874 759611 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1336762877 871857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott because it's "genetic BSD", as in based on the codebase, and that codebase has already been cleared by a court case settlement with the original authors of UNIX < 1336762878 28460 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336762962 506875 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336762962 564136 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336762962 564295 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336763175 421583 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336763254 715359 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw Clockwork Orange, Trojan Women, and Abagail's Party < 1336763336 711116 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336763337 401747 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336763343 284310 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have finished the movie < 1336763351 370040 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was no redeeming value in it for me < 1336763425 934395 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think perhaps it would be a shocker and eye opener for a typical ivy league student who has been sheltered all its life < 1336763464 399048 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way i see how it could be of value to someone else < 1336763469 227265 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like < 1336763510 953357 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a fairly pointless use of time and emotional wear for me < 1336763584 230316 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336763608 333901 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what is "genetic BSD"? < 1336763653 905403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: "genetic UNIX" refers to something that's UNIX-like because it's actually based on the codebase of the original UNIX, indirectly, rather than attempting to copy it like Linux < 1336763667 701492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :original-UNIX has been continually deformed into OS X < 1336763842 547281 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: for example is v7/x86 "genetic UNIX"? < 1336763861 736816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: anything that contains code from original UNIX < 1336763875 224513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much all Unix-likes are apart from Linux < 1336763912 800711 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is Minix. < 1336763915 389308 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: even BSDs even thought they don't contain original unix surce? < 1336763931 38140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: what makes you think they don't contain original unix source? < 1336763938 304114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BSD wasn't rewritten from scratch, it was a fork < 1336764003 771499 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because they couldn't have released it under BSD license if it still had original unix source code (see 4.2BSD Net/2) < 1336764023 953392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: there was a court settlement < 1336764039 726025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which confirmed that the licensing was OK < 1336764119 572041 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Novell bought the rights, and then settled. < 1336764139 223303 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so it confirmed they didn't have code that was property of USL. There were five files that couldn't be released under BSD license but those were written from scratch on other BSD forks < 1336764154 863604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, we seem to have different memories of UNIX history < 1336764156 259851 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The settlement leaked in 2004: basically, BSD was in the clear if they rewrote a small handful of bits that they didn't already rewrite. < 1336764178 649832 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: The other bits simply *happened* to have already been rewritten from the fork. < 1336764199 635294 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that was called 4.4BSD-lite < 1336764215 40178 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Yes it was. < 1336764227 354268 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Net/2 lacked those five files that were needed < 1336764279 84823 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: those were written from scratch on 386BSD project < 1336764321 702557 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Yes... < 1336764346 181190 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BSD is a fork of UNIX but open source versions no longer contain original UNIX source < 1336764368 838483 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Linux no longer contains original v0.1 Linux source; your point? :) < 1336764378 145238 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336764421 267819 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: my point is that BSD contains no original UNIX source code which ais523 said it contained < 1336764433 697240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: it contained it at the time it implemented the API, though < 1336764439 54477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it still contains the same API < 1336764440 88535 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still genetic UNIX. < 1336764508 570593 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say it wasn't genetic unix, I just said it no longer contain original unix source < 1336764510 332603 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like a philosophical debate < 1336764514 8320 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336764524 298100 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why < 1336764528 287022 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336764534 746952 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you replace every plank on a ship one-by-one as they rot, then by the time you have replaced them all, is it the same ship?: < 1336764567 830584 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'd say no < 1336764587 772866 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say yes < 1336764588 180017 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Congrats, you are not the same person as the one called "nortti" two years ago. < 1336764604 85763 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i'd dissolve the question. identity is a silly man-made thing. < 1336764610 686436 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia++ < 1336764632 788817 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you are right. I am not < 1336764645 654457 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-152-179.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336764675 869203 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ballsy. < 1336764725 36912 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with nortti. we are not the same people we were then. however, i think that is true regardless of the philosophical question < 1336764740 327632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know those philosophical things < 1336764835 109768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately, i believe, if anything, i have a higher informational content than i did two years ago. the things i've forgotten left compressed remnants of themselves that interact in strange ways with the things i remember < 1336764850 69305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and i probably weigh a bit more >.> < 1336765095 950681 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shachaf < 1336765125 416799 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1336765245 953414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all the iron atoms in some car are instantly switched with the equal amount of iron from something else, is it the same car? < 1336765257 726151 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336765266 241632 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going with yes < 1336765269 625349 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336765282 908725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say the answer is no. < 1336765303 545852 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arbitrary < 1336765305 791387 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming they are also all in the same place, because you said switched) < 1336765319 96314 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that modern physics seems to provide evidence for my opinion. < 1336765331 192242 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: physics says your question is meaningless < 1336765336 624787 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1336765343 174381 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the theory that there's only one electron in the universe, it's bouncing back and forth between the beginning and end of time, and when it's going backwards it's a positron < 1336765356 56196 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :feynman is one crazy guy eh? < 1336765387 866334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Newtonian physics may, but with such new thing as quantum entanglement and wavefunctions and uncertainty and all that stuff, we cannot say it is definitely the same thing. < 1336765389 81964 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he really gets the point across that electrons are not only indistinguishable by anything except position/momentum < 1336765390 529452 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, feynman is every crazy guy. He's going back and forth in the universe, and when he's going backwards he's a vicar < 1336765409 608887 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not really worth distinguishing in many cases < 1336765432 553549 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: quantum physics says your question is meaningless < 1336765449 264217 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1336765460 96337 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum physics says it doesn't make sense to talk about "switching particles with one another" < 1336765492 162075 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, because you couldn't(you could never get their exact location) < 1336765552 358794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Exactly, it is what I mean by that the mathematics has no way to represent it is, therefore, their exact location doesn't have and if they are switched, you have to antisymmetry (or symmetry) to subtract the states to figure out the result which should be zero if in fact they are the same, but even in that case, uncertainty and entanglement is possible. < 1336765599 116787 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying that the car would fall apart? < 1336765629 448890 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might exist for a very short timespan < 1336765631 858239 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you understand what "entanglement" is? do you understand where exactly the uncertainty arises? < 1336765634 102934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! But I am also saying that you cannot consider space/time like this. It is all relative and space and time are together rather than separate, too. < 1336765663 702529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes I know how to write down the state vectors for an entangled state and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle and those things to some degree. < 1336765684 715103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it might fall apart; everything is possible. < 1336765694 395075 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-119-76.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336765697 923367 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everything < 1336765704 6450 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftl communication is not < 1336765715 463282 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: with falling apart I mean falling apart in energy < 1336765724 273229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not what I meant by what I have said < 1336765768 655219 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if some atoms(or smaller particles) would be in an incorrect position, the whole thing would become unstable? < 1336765772 794441 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have to go < 1336765773 480557 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1336765774 180180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: O, you mean in energy. Well, I have not calculated the amount of energy it has, and I only know the Newtonian energy anyways, which is different from this energy < 1336765802 610072 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1336765817 124285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: But, yes, tat would be the case; however, that is not what I meant; when I said I meant they would switch exact (as far as it is meaningful) position < 1336765830 953113 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did we get to this from unix? < 1336765912 750153 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By way of philosophy. < 1336766254 11648 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-88-87.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336766495 187295 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@85.162.90.89 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336767432 697563 :mrdragons!~em@91.222.36.179 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336768739 947419 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.172 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336769376 144934 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336769383 384596 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you subject me to that crappy movie < 1336769383 562361 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater < 1336769389 590412 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for spite < 1336769392 8791 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like watching days go by < 1336769476 632827 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336769476 651663 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that tv series? < 1336769476 667387 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :life goes on < 1336769968 215724 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sing with me kmc < 1336769972 596743 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ob la di, ob la da < 1336769977 521337 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :life goes oooh-oon < 1336770292 450359 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :♬♩♫♪ < 1336770453 198640 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336770475 643501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the icon belonging to a window something that X tracks? or is it tracked at a different level (e.g. window manager or dbus)? < 1336770544 313629 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is "no, yes" < 1336770550 74987 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1336770604 117812 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336770701 752576 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you run xprop and click a Firefox window you'll see a nice big firefox icon in your terminal < 1336772255 605815 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-2.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336772402 234064 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell augur Thanks for the explanation. :-) < 1336772402 387090 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336772415 497605 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-109.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336772752 406646 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1336772795 114383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's remove human from endangered species list; the population is too much < 1336772881 540058 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131EC1.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336773401 134972 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336773740 655561 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: keegan < 1336773766 280464 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://i.imgur.com/6QpIO.png < 1336773792 739353 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336773850 396979 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I used to more or less be able to read Arabic. :-( < 1336773964 244314 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's Haskell. < 1336773976 321736 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw fancy characters and immediately assumed it was Agda. < 1336774056 399028 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336774060 184219 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1336774078 421452 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the bidi algorithm is particularly bad for source code < 1336774082 559220 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that "n = n" is a LTR span < 1336774100 111398 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if those were two different variable names, the argument would be the one further from the function name < 1336774147 186789 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't write code in RTL languages. :-( < 1336774151 474685 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There probably should be just short RTL spans for single words. < 1336774163 162898 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What were you doing in Boston? < 1336774163 217523 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and longer ones for strings and comments, i suppose < 1336774190 80096 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually have a good intuitive model of the standard bidi algorithm. < 1336774190 766709 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-2.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you'd want a syntactically aware text editor for handling RTL code. < 1336774198 355959 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that using non-English languages in code is evil, so there should be electric shocks for doing that. < 1336774211 777328 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had cases where I had a URL with LTR and RTL characters and I just *couldn't* put my cursor where I wanted. < 1336774214 874701 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matter what I tried. < 1336774222 477940 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-2.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bidi algorithm spans a single syntactic entity. e.g. a name, a single string, or a single comment. < 1336774229 222323 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The least painful solution ended up being deleting a large chunk of it and typing it from scratch. < 1336774251 989878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One way is to require all program codes to be ASCII. It is also possible to write all URLs in ASCII, too. < 1336774295 652184 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-2.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Most code is written in straight ASCII, so hey. < 1336774296 338673 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Another way is to kill anyone who speaks non-English languages. < 1336774305 501129 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :LETS REQUIRE ALL PROGRAM CODES TO CONSIST OF CAPITAL LETTERS NUMBERS AND SPACES < 1336774320 169392 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: kmc's opinion of you is going to be about the same with either of those ways! < 1336774368 699850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, text strings and comments would still be permitted to contain non-ASCII texts < 1336774456 875277 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Wait, you live in Boston. < 1336774469 449720 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forgot about that. < 1336774572 421544 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336775108 823321 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131EC1.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1336775172 708076 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastefortunes < 1336775178 649919 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1507 < 1336775656 992780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336776474 780655 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336776476 345484 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336776477 550437 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336776478 585843 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336776479 796375 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336776485 649517 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :753) fizzie: it's just so stupid that ' stty erase h' has more bizarre results. it was, that he was overcome with the vastness, profundity, and fnord < 1336776488 552131 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :853) imagine hitting a brick wall really really hard but you don't do anything to it. instead you explode. that's what it's like for people who hit you < 1336776491 611077 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :600) elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. < 1336776504 716087 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :775) [...] and then you just shuffle the integral signs around a bit and hope no mathematicians notice. < 1336776505 44121 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :321) haha, god made one helluva blunder there :DS "WHOOPS HE AIN'T DEAD YET!" "luckily no one will believe him because christians are such annoying retards" < 1336777083 624455 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: You should delete 600. < 1336777155 163271 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 600 < 1336777157 824281 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. < 1336777173 159321 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thortti < 1336777379 719492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you play E Card? < 1336777587 511114 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1336777669 802263 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336777735 523531 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336778001 68098 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336778460 271811 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-138-118.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336778666 448750 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-2.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336778774 809809 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How do I find out whether I can play E Card? < 1336778805 239711 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I can tell you how it is played. < 1336778916 51179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game is played by two players, the owner and challenger. < 1336779011 652780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three kind of cards: Emperor, Citizen, and Slave. Emperor beats Citizen, Citizen beats Slave, and Slave beats Emperor. (If you prefer, you can use Pokemon cards: leaf energy card beats water energy card, water energy card beats fire energy card, and fire energy card beats leaf energy card.) < 1336779118 267337 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first, owner has four Citizen and one Slave, and challenger has four Citizen and one Emperor. Three rounds are played this way, and then it is switch so that challenger has Slave instead, again for three rounds. And then this is repeated three time both ways for a total of twelve rounds. < 1336779188 431310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The player with the Emperor card plays a card face-down, and then the player with Slave plays a card face-down. If both are Citizens, then they are discarded and the player holding the Slave card plays first this time. It alternates until one player wins or loses. < 1336779282 245103 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336779299 164477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not permitted to just select a card at random; you are required to decide which card to play (I am unsure how they can enforce this rule). In addition, both players have a five minute time limit to select a card. < 1336779361 236665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before the game starts, a drill is screwed onto one of the challenger's ears, 3 cm from the eardrum. < 1336779541 439476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before each round, the challenger makes a bet in millimetres. After the cards are played, if the challenger loses then the drill is moved that distance (the eardrum is destroyed if the distance between it and the drill is reduced to zero). If the challenger wins while playing the Emperor's side, he wins 100000 yen per mm bet. If the challenger wins with the Slave's side, he wins 500000 yen per mm bet. < 1336779580 254668 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the end, the drill is removed and he gets to keep the money, regardless of whether or not his ear has been destroyed. < 1336779600 535239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are the rules. OK????? < 1336779654 460942 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95AFE.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336779890 146541 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: np < 1336780362 285702 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336780624 764185 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336780845 74558 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336781002 245356 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336782158 60699 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1336782189 722929 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-120-81.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336782221 228202 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-120-81.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336782869 193728 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Portal 2 single player. < 1336782871 477637 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. Amazing. < 1336782892 289403 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Multi-player is pretty great too, but everybody fawned over multi-player, and I didn't see too many people praising the single-player game) < 1336784395 280084 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336784397 261026 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336784602 858093 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336785032 263342 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only ever played multi < 1336785035 411074 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1336785540 385480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand E Card now? < 1336785705 844928 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, did you play Portal? < 1336785751 94901 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally. < 1336785767 887084 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portal was brilliant, but somewhat lacking in plot (which was fine, since the gameplay was fantastic). < 1336785788 505030 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portal 2 not only improved the gameplay, but had a plot that was spectacular, detailed, and very involving. < 1336785812 87445 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's to say nothing of coöp mode, which I'm still playing with a friend. < 1336785823 867524 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, does co-op work across PC/XBox? < 1336785835 234348 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it does but want to double-check quickly < 1336785838 29257 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donno, my friend and I both have it on Steam (PC) < 1336786073 73482 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: did you enjoy the part where he kills you? < 1336786130 482546 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OMG DON'T SPOIL IT FOR THE REST < 1336786191 55323 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca TOPIC #esoteric :spoilers | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1336786223 627309 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yeah, you should definitely play the single-player game. < 1336786238 148999 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i NEVER HAVE THE TIME < 1336786238 833530 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Even if /just/ for the plot, although the puzzles are (naturally) great too. < 1336786261 32419 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was either unnecessarily angry or mis-caplocked X-D < 1336786295 385341 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336786297 521858 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it eas < 1336786302 839490 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENTIRELY NECESSARILY ANGRY < 1336786316 704641 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods sagely. < 1336786318 447594 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1336786320 20371 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :win 24 < 1336786325 771288 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336786355 727131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lose 24.5 < 1336786363 703989 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tie 24.25 < 1336786597 159755 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336787336 336349 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@66.155.231.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336787503 692788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pathfinder _ g h | g == h = return h; pathfinder s g h = WriterT ((\x -> (x, [x])) <$> (s !! h)) >>= pathfinder s g; < 1336787919 810316 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-138-118.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cephalic ganglion": best name for the brain? < 1336787959 772369 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :obv < 1336788070 14746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to invent WizardCard and I wrote some of the codes already < 1336788564 162068 :iconmaster_!~iconmaste@66.155.231.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336788734 866395 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336788754 65132 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@66.155.231.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336788765 211637 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336788959 175395 :iconmaster_!~iconmaste@66.155.231.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336789106 160710 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@66.155.231.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336789185 130291 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336789362 941082 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336791247 163201 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 Continuity < 1336791251 794615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://continuitygame.com/playcontinuity.html < 1336791592 8104 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, can the brain even be classified as a ganglion? < 1336791647 639052 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336791656 846109 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which rules of Magic: the Gathering cards do you dislike? < 1336791854 903528 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I dislike the rule where it has magic. < 1336791863 39778 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shun magic, and shun the appearance of magic! < 1336791867 850282 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shun everything, and then shun shunning! < 1336791869 401870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: As far as I know it has no such rule. < 1336791876 575276 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1336791880 82659 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which rules does it have, then? < 1336791892 954281 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a rules where it has gathering? E.g. of the card < 1336791893 989402 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1336792125 470512 :tilsoun!4c4cec43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.76.236.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336792322 152718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It look good to me and I hope I did it correctly: expandPat t = option t (get >>= lift . map (first $ checkPatternMatch [t]) . getBlocks (transEnum KW_macro) >>== \(x, y) -> head . M.foldrWithKey substitute [y] <$> x); < 1336792369 468012 :tilsoun!4c4cec43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.76.236.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a minimal language that operates on a tape (i.e., jumping to an arbitrary address is assumed to be expensive)? < 1336792407 509700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tilsoun: Do you mean the program or the data? < 1336792413 592980 :tilsoun!4c4cec43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.76.236.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both. < 1336792475 918183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of one that has both. Perhaps invent one on esolang wiki, or put it in the list of ideas. < 1336792761 668187 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336793218 132397 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@66.155.231.162 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336793414 829337 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: A+++++++ would play another 1000 levels < 1336794454 753356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to think of how to represent some things in WizardCard and other thing about implementation too < 1336794558 33484 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336794606 139565 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336795670 840650 :tilsoun!4c4cec43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.76.236.67 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1336795936 56166 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336796208 27869 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336796208 85468 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336796208 85598 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336796390 418558 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336796889 614127 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336796944 293624 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336798741 335547 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-147-169.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336798945 497814 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-119-76.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336799888 682395 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336800497 87676 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost done with continuity < 1336801532 704206 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336802278 118656 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336802327 723836 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336804746 990192 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336805683 804437 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336807338 554561 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336807344 968469 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336807556 138632 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336807813 196187 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb < 1336807861 778135 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLASPHEMY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dSNAkNdvmg < 1336808365 19232 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336809329 451328 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, Phantom_Hoover < 1336809342 31542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, it's Taneb! < 1336809342 171487 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336809390 847188 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a dream last night < 1336809396 643310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where i left my laptop in the bath < 1336809565 4505 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336809692 126298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336810575 330551 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, have you heard the blasphemy? < 1336810585 387343 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no what < 1336810678 474752 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dSNAkNdvmg < 1336810685 946841 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ that blashphemy < 1336810715 394571 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sho blashphemic it turnsh me into Shean Connery < 1336810724 256887 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336810736 835055 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336811083 195787 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs dream < 1336811102 785489 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17369 < 1336811265 451351 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-06-23.txt:08:24:55: Heh, last night me and a friend decided to walk 40 km... started at midnight... by the end of the trip I was actually having short dreams while walking :DD < 1336811513 696153 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I presume that elliott was not pleased. < 1336811518 99279 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336811600 859333 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336811951 10007 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336812351 7403 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336812447 129770 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The China Export symbol looks similar completely by accident, i’m sure. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/CE_marks.jpg < 1336812450 596884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: That seems to be a safe assumption in any and all circumstances. < 1336812807 53664 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336812849 765033 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336812964 504130 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o hai < 1336813113 729832 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336813271 192617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336813793 630587 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336813798 184993 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336814820 639553 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336815256 676967 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336815449 356957 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1336815456 758474 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336816164 28355 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336816208 170361 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336816821 570338 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-138-118.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: Yes, the brain is in fact a ganglion. Just with a lot of natural selection applied to it. < 1336817238 255722 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336817425 504354 :cheater!~cheater@g231044016.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336817463 318480 :atran!~atran@s83-177-138-113.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1336817953 687407 :atran!~atran@s83-177-138-113.cust.tele2.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336818153 603499 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CF41.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336819128 469286 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i am about this upset with your recent movie suggestion: this upset: http://inside-logger.com/img/upset_kid.jpg < 1336819808 278059 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-147-169.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336819903 162672 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-138-118.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336819976 610260 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-159.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336820100 591386 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-129-184.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336820295 183865 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-134-249.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1336820485 809767 :shubshub!~yaaic@118-92-134-249.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz QUIT :Client Quit < 1336820515 758578 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qdb.us/28319 < 1336821141 940641 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1336821245 819532 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1336821441 317848 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: have you finished continuity? < 1336821452 863314 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on the last level, but haven't given it a real effort yet < 1336821656 899991 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_, haven't gotten there yet < 1336821854 609652 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336821873 42857 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about the web version btw < 1336821878 298689 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you playing the ipad version already? < 1336821883 302935 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the web version was fairly simple < 1336822121 351108 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336822409 825797 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw shit. I lost all of my work on c2bf. < 1336822470 397667 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my own pkgmgr seems to be missing from backups < 1336823926 504907 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336823953 570361 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336824019 503468 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow ok the last level is fairly tough < 1336824360 45012 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1336824469 464799 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kmc upset < 1336824469 591524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336825548 894943 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know can I make my libc for c2bf available under wtfpl if I include it in c2bf which is under GPL? < 1336825619 601610 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1336825840 252904 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone recommend a mind-map software? < 1336825867 788164 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336825897 174231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336826828 369091 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, double licence ? < 1336826850 967605 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPL is more restrictive than WTFPL < 1336826952 839761 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sebbu: I am trying to make c2bf usable so I am adding libc but I'd like to keep it under WTFPL < 1336827273 417239 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :C2BF is a C compiler. It does not impose a license on the code it compiles, just like any other C compiler. < 1336827279 174129 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC is under GPL, for example. < 1336827335 452234 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I am including my libc in my fork of c2bf < 1336827363 937030 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? My distro includes both GCC and glibc. < 1336827385 445171 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or eglibc, as it were) < 1336827457 279286 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: so I can make my c2bf fork contain both GPL and WTFPL licensed code? < 1336827575 761565 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A) Of course, B) yes, even if they actually linked together (although then the aggregate /binary/ would have to be released under GPL, which has implications on the source), C) since they DON'T link together, there isn't even an argument, the two licenses have absolutely no bearing on each other. You could have something GPL-incompatible and it would still make no difference. < 1336829345 503495 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336829462 388398 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336829553 225988 :Nessler!~noobjoe@unaffiliated/noobjoe JOIN :#esoteric < 1336829622 76782 :Nessler!~noobjoe@unaffiliated/noobjoe PART :#esoteric < 1336831004 700459 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.elisanet.fi/~g623951/c2bf-j-0.01.patch < 1336831551 376616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336832845 503565 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336832919 155217 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336833986 238739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ping < 1336833989 834420 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong < 1336834026 657336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What case is the WINDOWS directory in recent Windowses. < 1336834028 851553 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This gives me a stupid idea < 1336834032 210920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. C:\windows, C:\Windows or C:\WINDOWS < 1336834035 276258 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows < 1336834040 920588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1336834044 282704 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Server table tennis < 1336834067 617304 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Configure servers to append a ping message to all pong messages to a particular server < 1336834106 988687 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First server to drop it, the other one gets a point < 1336834634 275928 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I would recommend you properly fork, and link your fork from the esolangs page. < 1336834676 865365 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ok < 1336834916 1069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Be careful. < 1336834925 359335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc specifically has an exception to GPL to avoid infecting code it compiles, IIRC. < 1336835154 362397 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because gcc has library code it links into the output binary? < 1336835154 600442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336835165 253967 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1336835165 418282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_ said 2h 58m 14s ago: upset < 1336835742 505509 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: :( < 1336836129 153950 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : gcc specifically has an exception to GPL to avoid infecting code it compiles, IIRC. // yeah, that's for libgcc < 1336836162 302370 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336836168 515305 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not clear where the line is drawn though < 1336836189 602078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You could just relicense C2BF as not-GPL :P < 1336836221 633351 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336836232 637822 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1336836244 371016 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :libgcc? < 1336836262 186555 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336836269 641451 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. never mind < 1336836323 115915 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :libgcc is a library gcc links into the binaries it produces < 1336836361 297450 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I hereby license all of my code in C2BF under ISC. Feel free to change the headers at your leisure. I think I used a published Yacc grammar for C in there somewhere, so be wary of its license if it's under any. < 1336836381 706117 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ISC is this license: http://opensource.org/licenses/ISC ) < 1336836559 667789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hmm, has nobody else contributed to C2BF? < 1336836561 817597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, perhaps? < 1336836569 850187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION aims to make your life difficult. < 1336836575 105074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, nortti's. < 1336836600 733819 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: isn't ISC basically WTFPL with warranty clause? < 1336836638 475766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And more legally airtight wording... < 1336836648 188708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually that's not true. < 1336836656 866042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISC requires reproduction of the license/copyright notice. < 1336836672 462456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISC is basically BSD2/MIT. < 1336836724 940684 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Gedcom standard is so dense < 1336836745 499082 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: do you have commit history to c2bf? < 1336836832 160169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://esolangs.org/wiki/C2BF. < 1336836936 82201 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what about it? < 1336836949 409921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...It has a link to the SVN repository right there... < 1336836979 673747 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and...? < 1336836990 982483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: ...SVN repositories give you the entire commit history? < 1336837510 449194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :E\/TREME E\/PLOSIONS < 1336837510 626027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : /\ /\ < 1336837516 351407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explosions. Bexplosions. < 1336837521 963013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Texplosions. Sexplosions. Wait. < 1336837781 435534 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: do you have commit history to c2bf? // there are tools to get the commit history out of a svn repo. The name "svnsync" comes to mind. < 1336837813 324266 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :svn :/ < 1336837822 775105 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a texplosion something like < 1336837825 532794 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\kaboom < 1336837826 712274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: git-svn works well for that. < 1336837841 91666 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\explosion{bang} < 1336837857 23590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Yes. < 1336838030 730375 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it seems GCC 4.4 is the culprit in my fstack-protector slowdown < 1336838038 686569 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :redid the benchmarks with 4.6 and it's more what i expected < 1336838141 986998 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :SPOILER ALERT: He dies in the end | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1336838220 410370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, too, die in the end. < 1336838239 142046 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what makes the story so relatable. < 1336838357 758978 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336838464 80561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is THE ALAN DIPERT doing on /r/programming? < 1336838523 80891 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336838647 31382 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336838694 870472 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336838737 481841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336839077 100742 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is it dwarf fortress time? < 1336839086 797057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Is it Dwarf Fortress time? < 1336839159 673216 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a time such that, if I stream myself playing Dwarf Fortress, you will watch? < 1336839167 32861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1336839253 387200 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinky < 1336839305 786106 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336839308 406007 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have u seen my url? < 1336839313 104721 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336839316 567434 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336839363 661660 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: i am about this upset with your recent movie suggestion: this upset: http://inside-logger.com/img/upset_kid.jpg < 1336839418 240863 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1336839428 563179 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.41.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336839455 613167 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.41.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello everybody < 1336839459 596820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336839474 534730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You realise you're not termcasting, right? < 1336839480 765244 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not! < 1336839483 693946 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!? < 1336839500 671563 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey, you should know < 1336839512 943630 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.41.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, elliot < 1336839524 910237 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: when making a steak with "steak pepper" (a mixture of salt, pepper, paprika, mustard seeds, etc) < 1336839539 401932 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i put this spice mix on the steak before putting it in the frying pan? < 1336839542 196664 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or after it's ready? < 1336839551 308834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336839598 747015 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about now? < 1336839616 211473 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: i'd put it on before, and maybe rub it in a bit < 1336839628 584247 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but idk < 1336839701 635040 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i did < 1336839708 967178 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll see in a couple of minutes if it worked < 1336839743 446805 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I may have got my ratry login wrong? < 1336839755 276067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Just pick a new username. < 1336839756 999659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what I do. < 1336839768 610376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: (This is why you store the ratry_login stuff in a file.) < 1336839825 767954 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, got corrupted < 1336839833 366450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1336839844 339868 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the mess I had over the past two days < 1336839893 312859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1336840110 289191 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm not upset anymore though < 1336840129 179830 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :except this morning when i woke up dreaming someone electrocuted me and the flesh was falling off my legs < 1336840142 141155 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok though < 1336840146 274047 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1336840170 944022 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, now! < 1336840184 603476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should play Adventurer. < 1336840186 623363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... "fun". < 1336840345 700339 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336840359 94789 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-159.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336840443 504614 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the words "seared clump, bloody cold inside" describe this steak quite well < 1336840447 504861 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope i can still save it < 1336840510 257604 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336840520 507084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336840564 588149 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any suggestions for fortress names? < 1336840660 378181 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgc < 1336840691 201389 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336840695 245732 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing came out quite good actually < 1336840732 324307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Fortressfortress. < 1336840734 838008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarffortres. < 1336840736 573983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ss < 1336840755 585152 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :DwarfDwarfFortressFortressFactoryFactory < 1336840762 155687 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortress of Solidity (not really... this is like a nightmarish name) < 1336840803 328181 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :frigidity, then? < 1336840810 754560 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ~ity < 1336840880 265443 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frigid Fortress < 1336840921 688120 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is bull's eye hickory smoke bbq squce a known brand in the us? < 1336840928 263543 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336840953 73503 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336840953 109810 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336840953 127842 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336841019 566022 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131494.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336841112 153172 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: If I recall, Bull's Eye is one of those brands you can find in every grocery store. It's probably a subsidiary of Kraft or something. < 1336841169 506286 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes http://www.kraftbrands.com/bullseyebbq/ < 1336841190 153065 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus20 < 1336841611 354362 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131494.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1336841634 972947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Oops, I forgot to raise the uxterm window. < 1336841640 871596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed the last, like, half an hour. < 1336841657 944980 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing interesting happened < 1336841918 633380 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of fortress craft when i made my suggestions.. because, just because < 1336841945 382712 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent ever owned a ~craft though < 1336841996 357997 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft for PC and XBox 360 + Fortress Craft here < 1336842882 86387 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336843068 454187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336843208 213117 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-57.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336843217 14200 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336843235 646148 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336843333 591776 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what happened there... < 1336843526 76152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did df crash or something < 1336843686 207054 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I lost internet and df crashed < 1336843688 637119 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AT THE SAME TIME < 1336843742 966853 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CF41.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336843748 519392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: crawl people are so wrong about hunger < 1336843761 374956 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are they saying < 1336843779 505551 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good thing monqys-crawl is right" < 1336843792 10592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: mostly defending hunger in any shape or form < 1336843810 927478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :while at the same time asking for nausea to be removed on the grounds that it's tedious and unimportant < 1336843819 648309 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1336843840 113123 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha-ha-ha < 1336843859 658571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: apparently you need hunger because it minorly inconveniences berserkers < 1336843879 876021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also for conjurers and summoners but "i don't know anything about them" so i can't comment) < 1336843936 97078 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spells hunger you; bigger spell level means more hunger, and having spc/int means less hunger < 1336843957 131342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336843957 896827 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at low skill/int the hunger serves to prevent you from spamming big spells < 1336843961 820717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could just < 1336843965 792021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not regen mp naturally instead < 1336843971 923235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use mp for that < 1336843972 413841 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336843977 850375 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reduce permanent food < 1336843984 275475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for berserkers < 1336843986 757026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make exhaustion last longer < 1336843996 869064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just < 1336844000 859581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it not wear off unless you $do_something < 1336844003 300728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1336844015 966020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :frankly the only times i've been unable to berserk because of hunger is when i get out of a tight situation and immediately into another < 1336844018 432181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1336844026 112920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :making exhaustion last longer would fulfil that fine < 1336844029 69502 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd go more for the latter since lasting longer means like pillar dancing it off or something < 1336844031 251315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it's susceptible to just pressing 5 a lot < 1336844034 353598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nerf 5" < 1336844035 987065 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336844040 921012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In ADOM, spitting acid reduces your satiation level < 1336844046 248805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make kills reduce your exhaustion < 1336844048 92960 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally in monqys-crawl you should never have to press 5 < 1336844049 32625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because $rationale < 1336844068 282422 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :killing the rat invigourates you < 1336844106 214803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"invigourates", good british english < 1336844132 619045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why should kills reduce your exhaustion? I don't see how that makes a lot of sense; resting should reduce your exhaustion (perhaps make the area danger and stuff, so that there is a penalty to resting, now you have to figure out what balance is best per circumstances) < 1336844168 227670 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336844185 55546 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :realism is less important than gameplay < 1336844215 665777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you could also make exhaustion last longer and just make you lose hp over time "because" < 1336844224 83902 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmm < 1336844225 852513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then because hp on kills is great "the problem is solved" < 1336844270 495340 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :consistency is also important though and monsters losing hp over time or only berking once is silly so i'd have to do something about that, like give the player a horrible disease to explain away the discrepency < 1336844277 937375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you need the deep deep down orb of zot to cure your self" < 1336844293 351928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Hence why I have said so, make area danger and stuff a penalty to resting < 1336844299 17288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ur dyinge. but on your bucket list it says : - get the orb of zot because nobody ever got it." < 1336844311 529180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"also, yuou're a sociopath and you like to see things diye it gives you reson to live" < 1336844316 907079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hav fun" < 1336844331 351636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :important question, will this perfect roguelike go the way of both of elliott's other perfect games < 1336844346 564152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wee're talking about monqy's roguelike < 1336844348 541464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just < 1336844349 956077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :roguelikes in general < 1336844352 809351 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of my roguelikes < 1336844353 399910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even crawl < 1336844356 371079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: all of them < 1336844358 780863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1336844365 185204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many do you have < 1336844375 418206 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's monqys-crawl and then there's "my roguelike" < 1336844411 48165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like < 1336844412 476075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"roguelife" < 1336844461 840211 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there's the possibility i'll split "my roguelike" into numerous "my roguelikes" < 1336844471 417605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's bad about crawl light btw < 1336844534 437172 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly: it still has things that are bad from crawl, maybe lacks some of crawl's post-fork improvements (which?) < 1336844542 195686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1336844545 352784 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like resting and big levels < 1336844550 25044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear it reversed a lot of nerfs perhaps unfairly < 1336844555 633582 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that too < 1336844561 158658 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try it and see how it goes < 1336844561 767924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about LOS do they plan squarelos < 1336844566 44150 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1336844602 758461 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the nofood and noid and stuff like that give it a big goodness advantage over crawl also so < 1336844615 562295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"im ask" < 1336844616 389447 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i dunno i'd have to try it < 1336844629 172774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#crawllight is scary "so few people" < 1336844633 314131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im scared of big channels and small channels < 1336844642 533899 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to be in there but nothing ever happened so i left < 1336844673 657020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : while at the same time asking for nausea to be removed on the grounds that it's tedious and unimportant <--- the amusing thing is, they added nausea because sickness was tedious and unimportant… < 1336844675 921775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the last scary channel membership is like < 1336844677 350393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 people < 1336844686 681047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as they're not friends < 1336844693 419893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :30-40 people who don't know each other < 1336844706 667376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember arguing against nausea, on the basis that it always either did nothing or killed you arbitrarily and unavoidably < 1336844714 544825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you set #CrawlLight's topic; do they plan to squarelos, or are they about to kick me for trolling? :p < 1336844715 364488 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sickness is bad too < 1336844734 4342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I mostly didn't set it; I just added a meme to it < 1336844736 491366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee castle! < 1336844751 416406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336844756 101401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they'd consider a squarelos suggestion trolling, although I'm not sure if they're planning it or not < 1336844767 215095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd take it seriously if you made it < 1336844802 19712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:43 what about LOS? :P < 1336844802 165447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:45 err < 1336844802 205074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:45 i'm not aware of the issue :P < 1336844803 573924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:45 circle vs. square < 1336844805 575200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:45 unchanged, and i don't know of plans < 1336844807 575176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:46 what is the issue with circular? < 1336844809 575368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:46 it's inconsistent with movement geometry (euclidean rather than chebyshev distance) < 1336844813 574147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im "squarelos ambassador" < 1336844827 21566 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Circle vs. square? Pfft. I want a triangular LOS. < 1336844840 626343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :los in the shape of a giant spider < 1336844849 863433 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well squarelos is still inconsistent but it has gameplay benefits over circle los < 1336844874 734927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:47 hmm, well, I'm unsure < 1336844890 71377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:48 ask monqy if you want more/better arguments :p < 1336844892 799045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: enjoiye < 1336844895 539368 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336844919 369930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you know centaurs used to be speed 20 "facts" < 1336844927 233750 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1336844933 575194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in 1997) < 1336844976 40847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are yoju being asked about squarelos as we speak < 1336844980 74131 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nop < 1336844987 226927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what !! < 1336844994 547570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :join #CrawlLight immediately < 1336844997 627969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im only saying it in < 1336844999 460205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uppercases because < 1336845003 746636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what quairlzr said it in < 1336845008 279938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now < 1336845012 653250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what my irc client is convinced its called < 1336845157 587120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"perfect disguise " < 1336845376 726585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: square lose "talk of the towne" < 1336845407 181877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the game with the capture rule of go and the win condition of gomoku? < 1336845426 963166 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzomoku < 1336845530 175064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im exhaust my knowledge and stuffe "you take over" < 1336845571 912889 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-122-120.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336845666 713080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks monqy < 1336845675 77526 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw np < 1336845682 590971 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem 1 def: tomorrow i will have car seat agoraphobia. solution: minimize that by sleeping well beforehand. problem 2 def: my sleeping pattern is way out. solution: three pronged strategy to induce sleep. < 1336845704 936265 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-154-1.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336845725 908395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im was sarcasm!!! < 1336845744 312928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the squarelos cause "dying because of monqy " < 1336845746 529553 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1336845752 621593 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-129-184.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336845778 450391 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to get an answer ask dtsund < 1336845784 72369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dying" < 1336845785 575329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"because" < 1336845787 336881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"of" < 1336845788 905806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"monqy" < 1336845815 213855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait for it ........ ... . < 1336845816 465515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ded < 1336845841 380375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336845871 155684 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-122-120.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336845906 51449 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336846071 791062 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phase 1: milk + hot water = triptophane < 1336846091 540049 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good phase < 1336846110 108574 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i know its in the bible so its a sure thing < 1336846136 183481 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336846150 840970 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about milk putting someone to sleep < 1336846267 158095 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#2 equip jacket so flimsy a kobold could attack right through it < 1336846288 175633 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like where this is going !! < 1336846292 644706 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and finally, #3 some asthma medicine < 1336846314 652310 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have asthma < 1336846356 196198 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit.. but its mild.. but the salbutamol is strangely relaxing even though it's a stimulant < 1336846373 419208 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"drugs" < 1336846435 515937 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no you got me all wrong before < 1336846437 801394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"drugs" < 1336846517 714380 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just meant that jacket is thin compared to chainmail or platemail designed but still designed to insulate and increase my core body temp. not quite seal skin though < 1336846624 135121 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just can't stand being in a car when i haven't had any sleep.. it's like cia torture < 1336846958 206046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a program like Astrolog, in addition to be able to plot additional data on the calendar, and supporting artificial objects such as ISS, another features of interest would be more features related to navigation. Still, again, all features should be able to work with each other. < 1336847057 131242 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can sleep in the car < 1336847067 151871 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done that, it's pretty fun < 1336847116 697328 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fun part is not being bored because car or tired because tired < 1336847132 919127 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a great experience" < 1336847241 735105 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's hackin' < 1336847258 583785 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just got back from eating thai food < 1336847265 156600 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in nyc for the weekend < 1336847269 835438 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why so < 1336847279 336019 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why nyc? just visiting friends < 1336847284 203864 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1336847295 464113 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you want to re-enact that movie you had me watch < 1336847301 330210 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336847320 550307 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no jumping fridges? < 1336847322 100837 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting addicted to smack is not on my list of goals for this trip < 1336847334 388617 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :double space before "trip" < 1336847335 77094 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or going ass-to-ass < 1336847336 803692 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sign of hesitation < 1336847338 354880 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed cheater_ < 1336847347 521691 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :freudian slip < 1336847403 912326 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about getting gangrene and having your arm cut off while your best buddy is left in a high security prison washing cotton < 1336847451 371425 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have lived in nyc as a teenager right? < 1336847453 264841 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was like half a year ago < 1336847631 912708 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336847645 962329 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever lived in nyc? < 1336847648 32354 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lived in NYC when i was 20 through 22 < 1336847688 446134 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-228-15.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336847739 941371 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'll pass on the gangrene as well < 1336847847 66467 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-154-1.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336848263 12239 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-228-15.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336848388 856621 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1336848443 718521 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336848919 138572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twenteen through twenty-tween. < 1336848976 810799 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.41.12 PART :#esoteric < 1336848995 596910 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be tenteen through twelveteen? < 1336849017 221608 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: did you at least like the music in the film < 1336849049 620157 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336849196 538501 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i knew of kronos quartet long before < 1336849206 931480 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad < 1336849231 736960 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm glad i got burned? < 1336849247 608051 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of all the things we learned? < 1336849259 111396 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad you're still alive? < 1336849340 234254 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many glados references < 1336849360 392465 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ programming arduino with sound card: http://dangerousprototypes.com/wp-content/media/2011/09/audioino_programming_arduino_with_sound.jpg? < 1336849421 315828 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336849432 750201 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc are you anywhere near the twin towers of babylon < 1336849446 670796 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1336849466 294426 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so it needs a special bootloader < 1336849474 629306 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :by this i mean the 9/11 convention center < 1336849476 9907 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's expected, and it's still kinda cool < 1336849478 770087 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336849490 151485 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty damn nice < 1336849501 124004 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could just as well use V-USB with a similar part count < 1336849525 183079 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the V? < 1336849532 12164 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that sense http://www.pjrc.com/hub_isp/ is probably cooler < 1336849536 832182 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :V-USB is a software USB stack for AVR < 1336849544 945328 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but this one you can always program from your walkman < 1336849548 908106 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just have different data tapes < 1336849552 699361 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a small patch cable < 1336849553 217224 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336849556 732988 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolz < 1336849560 355320 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or your phone < 1336849570 475207 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :phone is not hipster enough < 1336849576 525052 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :has to be a walkman < 1336849585 708436 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :better option: portable cassette player < 1336849595 801903 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hub thing requires a few more parts but no programmer < 1336849598 46833 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like one of those desktop ones < 1336849604 615602 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what hub thing? < 1336849618 176135 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336849635 894130 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking < 1336849761 306532 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336849863 674555 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1336849865 913893 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: no i'm not near the freedom hole < 1336849867 464603 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess before i read on < 1336849870 739403 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in east harlem right now < 1336849883 185992 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he program the stuff by turning voltage on and off? < 1336849888 403835 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in power supply voltage? < 1336849890 472395 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to live pretty close to the freedom hole < 1336849907 645321 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 River Terrace, at the north end of Battery Park city < 1336849931 98416 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about a 5 min walk to the WTC site < 1336849957 745485 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, on land created during the construction of the original WTC < 1336849988 999511 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll make sure to stalk you by calling up your landlord and requesting personal information < 1336850010 275827 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1336850021 941606 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you moved in after it got torn down right? < 1336850029 45331 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that during < 1336850033 15313 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1336850045 581429 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lived in NYC from 2008 to 2010 < 1336850065 872225 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the freedom fighter attack was in like what < 1336850068 291668 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2001? < 1336850071 777587 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336850081 223211 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the building i lived in already existed at the time < 1336850096 607427 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so our air vents were probably full of asbestos < 1336850256 493351 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, yum asbestos < 1336850270 484739 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the green wire in usb? < 1336850280 622425 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm totally liking this article u linked me 2 < 1336850284 841259 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :USB uses differential signaling < 1336850303 891826 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two data lines; they switch off which one has the higher voltage < 1336850308 550308 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indicating 0 or 1 by it < 1336850333 29204 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is green part of the differential pair? < 1336850386 232087 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe the standard code is green and white for data, black for ground, red for +5V < 1336850401 701053 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember which voltage pair is 0 and which is 1 < 1336850417 989982 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile in ##electrollnics: anyone know if 3d printers can print conductive material for leds, chip communication, etc? Prot: no. cheater_: so if you try to design electronics, you have to soldier and wire everything manually? < 1336850442 418486 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336850443 106694 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok gotcha < 1336850453 138256 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there has been some work with 3d printing electrical connections < 1336850454 171587 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i have no idea how he's getting pulses out the green line ??? < 1336850459 692290 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but home PCB fabrication is much easier < 1336850465 905065 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also pro PCB fab is pretty cheap < 1336850497 681589 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1336850498 588894 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: read the sidebar on the right side of the page < 1336850507 325347 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just do everything in ChinaPCB < 1336850579 284346 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336850581 15573 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i got it < 1336850682 609046 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's super slow < 1336850701 143694 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya 13 minutes < 1336850710 997899 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he should instead make a Tempest based programmer < 1336850718 69293 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think a parallel port programmer has a comparable part count and is much faster < 1336850721 689358 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who has a parallel port these days < 1336850727 380014 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i do) < 1336850734 324567 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do too < 1336850738 636466 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a thought < 1336850745 634867 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a SATA programmer < 1336850767 645434 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly a large parts count though < 1336850882 382451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336851057 251835 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm thinking you could possibly take an 8 bit DAC and bitbang through an audio port though < 1336851084 472120 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or better yet < 1336851089 372517 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no dac, just a slope detector < 1336851097 761985 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a high pass filter < 1336851130 71431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336851169 388959 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336851175 812389 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or yet better: use left and right in differential mode. first start up by outputting nothing and charge a capacitor which will hold the DC voltage between the channels' respective zeros < 1336851176 326138 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need two outputs and one input < 1336851179 811864 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I only found three revisions of c2bf and all of them were made by you. < 1336851182 222952 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336851193 504010 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you start outputting stuff in the signal < 1336851203 158319 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a comparator makes it either 0 or 1 < 1336851214 390982 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Sounds about right. < 1336851223 150970 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you deserialize < 1336851236 770437 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have your 4 bits or whatever < 1336851239 183861 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't you just use each channel as an independent output < 1336851248 530676 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a capacitor to low pass filter < 1336851255 251327 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i don't know < 1336851262 485694 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1336851273 958195 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about what would happen if you had a very long string of 0's < 1336851280 848856 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or very long string of 1's < 1336851296 569564 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you'd need a diode too < 1336851304 322956 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could mitigate the issue by having a three-pulse code like this < 1336851306 220394 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah cap + diode + resistor < 1336851307 100834 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :01x < 1336851313 606115 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :where x is the bit you want to send < 1336851316 539791 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 01 always repeat < 1336851325 579136 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can effectively control an output voltage < 1336851350 480057 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to send a 1, you turn on an audio tone and charge the cap through the diode < 1336851353 963617 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why do you want an lpf there, you want a hpf there < 1336851361 663020 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to send a 0, you turn it off and let the cap discharge through the resistor < 1336851369 113745 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we're talking about different applications cheater_ < 1336851374 640899 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we probably are < 1336851377 268509 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336851379 682995 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: has there been any other revisions of c2bf before revision 1 in trunk or have you put code written by enyone else repo? < 1336851379 701067 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about an iterface from an unprogrammed AVR to a sound card < 1336851387 607320 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1336851389 331555 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fancy codes and the like are out < 1336851401 731653 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is how to spit data out of the card < 1336851408 835176 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you put into the chip digitally has to conform to the AVR's programming state machine < 1336851410 229238 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a fancy code < 1336851414 363583 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just use a counter of 3 < 1336851416 479504 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not some bootloader you write < 1336851441 178533 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :every third bit goes to the avr programming state machine sadist < 1336851455 487036 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336851460 180301 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still need a counter circuit though < 1336851460 872496 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other two bits get thrown away and are there just to make sure the signal is locally AC at every moment < 1336851468 546552 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a single chip < 1336851474 229663 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but not a super common one < 1336851484 978083 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my scheme would work better < 1336851486 528574 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya think < 1336851488 940771 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: has there been any other revisions of c2bf before revision 1 in trunk or have you put code written by enyone else repo? // no, no. I'm very careful about copyright headers, if there's code by anybody but me, it's marked as such. < 1336851490 494565 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know how to do input < 1336851493 775874 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a demultiplexer < 1336851497 483224 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a microphone port won't detect DC levels < 1336851500 429366 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's common isn't it < 1336851514 728908 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a demultiplexer can be used instead < 1336851521 311191 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: my scheme doesn't have any ICs or transistors in the output path < 1336851530 709226 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need input < 1336851532 118863 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1336851563 442273 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336851565 168097 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about this one < 1336851566 892414 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got it < 1336851570 15319 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :one LDR < 1336851572 900660 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one webcam < 1336851576 449225 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one LED < 1336851583 928372 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you blink the LED to the webcam as input < 1336851590 597246 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you output a blinking square to the LDR < 1336851601 692234 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fucking minimal isn't it < 1336851606 349030 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1336851608 116125 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1336851621 344196 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know it won't get any more ghetto than that < 1336851639 550453 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why do you need input? < 1336851689 428692 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure, but hub_isp has it < 1336851719 731564 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1336851734 36277 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about using the numlock, scroll lock and capslock LEDs < 1336851736 620071 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 3 ldr's < 1336851767 987056 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably even slower < 1336851774 176494 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would take 5 hours to program a chip < 1336851785 598128 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to make? < 1336851817 108165 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey can't you use ethernet with some measurable amount of success in a ghetto circuit? < 1336851833 202251 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what i remember ethernet really lends itself to ghetto interfaces < 1336851856 336208 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's false < 1336851866 141574 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about banging out packets full of 1's or 0's < 1336851880 31646 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and putting that through an LPF < 1336851882 107102 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then using a comparator < 1336851894 723334 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a diode < 1336851896 439905 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1336851910 898083 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by packets i mean frames < 1336851954 513485 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you force an ethernet port to come on and send out frames, even if there was no layer 2 negotiation? < 1336851964 482676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, what exactly is it that you are trying to make these things for? < 1336851973 659667 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll up zzo38 < 1336851983 565041 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're trying to make a minimal avr programmer < 1336851994 893534 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the use of a parallel or serial port < 1336852100 44335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336852236 246698 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: strip/bfstrip.c is written by Erik Bosman and it is under GPL2 < 1336852288 464681 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The things I can think of are, audio port < 1336852318 197801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may need to do such things as adjust impedance and so on with resistors and other components < 1336852319 818732 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: otherwise all files carry copyright notice that it is yours or doesn't have copyright rule < 1336852431 587186 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.slashdong.org/2011/10/15/pen15-board/ < 1336852433 926745 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfstrip is a separate tool, so that shouldn't be a big deal. All the stuff that's mine is now ISC. < 1336852455 689083 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: haha < 1336852490 974081 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute, but I'm not sure why a teledildonics board would be different from any other robotics board < 1336852572 472356 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for having the safety isolation of a legit medical device < 1336852575 404209 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which this one clearly doesn't < 1336852589 220956 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: penis on silk screen < 1336852589 281383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure what other way there is best other than audio port; parallel port would probably work best but you say you cannot use that < 1336852609 596220 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's ok, the moment has passed < 1336852618 745773 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're talking about teledildonics now apparently < 1336852799 183318 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-153-181.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336852826 968220 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1336852894 365934 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey, i've been looking at my disk problem more. i think it may be that disk operations incur a noticable cost in cpu < 1336852899 713563 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea why that might be happening? < 1336852920 623242 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DMA being disabled, but you checked that already < 1336852930 358707 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does some kernel thread show up as using CPU in top < 1336852951 323312 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336853030 18184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1336853373 651315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336854005 843076 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think it's a cpu cost < 1336854152 469919 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336854165 961292 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336854171 515026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336854195 541876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ xander345 welcome < 1336854197 192338 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i own http://codecompiler.info < 1336854199 191395 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336854204 329152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome xander345 < 1336854206 778475 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome xander345? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1336854208 61738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: behave yourself < 1336854208 424774 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've added an esolang section < 1336854209 154194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336854210 54742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1336854211 490537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome xander345 < 1336854213 79843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome xander345 < 1336854214 246557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we get it right eventually < 1336854217 808098 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336854217 886194 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336854224 768785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it right first time, HackEgo was just being naughty < 1336854227 874567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ xander345 welcome < 1336854230 69959 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1336854230 191143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, at least < 1336854232 777095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1336854236 667690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /bin/@ < 1336854239 635181 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /bin/@: No such file or directory < 1336854246 754863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone deleted it, that's what happened… < 1336854251 677562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1336854254 40464 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1336854269 940306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Why did you delete quote 600? < 1336854283 141125 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the owner of esolangs.org here? < 1336854283 360109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 600 < 1336854286 762885 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :600) You know how the arrow pierces your skin, rearranging and randomizing vital internal structure? Monads are like that, only worse. < 1336854287 653901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why did you expect it's in /bin? < 1336854290 78063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: that's me < 1336854297 36372 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because I was asked to < 1336854297 885161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you mean the domain; that's owned by Alan Dipert, but I control its DNS < 1336854299 793630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because I thought it was in /bin < 1336854304 462506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: hmm, by who? < 1336854306 467773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wow, you forgot the "the" < 1336854315 543610 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what did @ do? < 1336854316 544393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I also forgot the capitals < 1336854319 144098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm professional! < 1336854339 705505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which @ < 1336854342 705121 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/@ < 1336854359 442046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: aim a message at someone < 1336854363 616170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/@ < 1336854365 299335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: oh, ignore shachaf when he tells people to delete quotes < 1336854366 368131 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ $_ = join " ", @ARGV; if (s/^([^ ]*) +([^ ]*) +//) { print "$1: "; exec $2, $_; } < 1336854368 138230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot it didn't start in / < 1336854374 843182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 384 < 1336854376 969755 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok < 1336854377 311290 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1336854379 808345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: this place is usually less hectic than this < 1336854393 146556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it /was/ less hectic than this until he/she joined < 1336854395 914401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing he from the username < 1336854397 109269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: anyway, I'm available for any esolangs.org related question and/or request < 1336854403 257607 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: where did you get the number 384? < 1336854419 147566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/f21648f87766, the revision prior to the delquote < 1336854427 355591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although `revert -2 would have worked too, I think < 1336854467 821866 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh yes. I forgot hackego's PWD was repo < 1336854523 720773 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┌────────────────────────────┐ < 1336854526 850339 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :│ you can't ignore my techno │ < 1336854529 263521 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :└────────────────────────────┘ < 1336854534 609178 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┌────────────────────────────┐ < 1336854536 735275 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i can < 1336854537 767104 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :│ you can't ignore my techno │ < 1336854540 192641 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :└────────────────────────────┘ < 1336854542 996793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1336854545 460486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1336854576 102612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ? < 1336854583 248716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1336854613 816198 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1336854649 69919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: i'm glad to have helped you as the owner of esolangs.org < 1336854658 978671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an op present? < 1336854723 530373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to say "yes" so I can go silent for the next five minutes as a hilarious joke. :( < 1336854731 947056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't be that funny < 1336854733 708552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336854736 985385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you know how to check the access list < 1336854738 20559 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you see the police... warn a brother! < 1336854754 917113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks zzo38 < 1336854827 506397 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┌──────────┐ < 1336854827 679178 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :│ cheater_ │ < 1336854827 697337 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :└──────────┘ < 1336854838 389919 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric : _______________________________ < 1336854838 907361 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :< Esoteric languages fuck yeah! > < 1336854839 254287 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ------------------------------- < 1336854839 597270 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ _ < 1336854839 940615 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ (_) \ < 1336854842 352947 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^__^ / \ < 1336854844 803679 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ (oo)\_____/_\ \ < 1336854847 387260 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (__)\ ) / < 1336854849 804764 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ||----w (( < 1336854852 418977 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric : || ||>> < 1336854852 863788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we not do this < 1336854855 364488 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think that broke < 1336854859 671656 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YA THINK < 1336854861 52567 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip cow < 1336854874 140942 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336854882 66798 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your cow is so bad it killed PH < 1336854883 481781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip hover < 1336854972 345187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an apt cow? < 1336854981 76604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, no < 1336854986 330308 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a butfuckt cow < 1336854988 53802 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I try again < 1336854991 507575 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336854994 985484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ aptitude moo < 1336854996 533598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no Easter Eggs in this program. < 1336855013 465911 :ddd!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336855016 749510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome ddd < 1336855020 2413 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddd: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1336855040 266950 :ddd!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336855043 30795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, plain gdb is better < 1336855046 351056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unwelcome ddd < 1336855048 896342 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unwelcome: not found < 1336855059 623746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ddd = xander345, btw < 1336855062 732303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I suppose you know aptitude --verbose moo. < 1336855067 365024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i suspected < 1336855068 935608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no, let me try that < 1336855076 34925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm not sure what is "up with them" < 1336855076 62513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336855081 186246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can keep adding more -v's up to some point. < 1336855098 620519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably ais523 has also tried apt-get moo < 1336855108 329165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stops at -vvvvvv < 1336855119 25176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: indeed, that's what I was referencing, I wasn't sure if it was the same cow or not < 1336855138 429975 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that cow is from cowsay < 1336855166 791374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, ddate seems to have disappeared from the repos altogether < 1336855176 832792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's no longer in coreutils, and it isn't anywhere else either < 1336855188 366137 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks! < 1336855195 383295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~$ sdate date < 1336855196 932908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sat Sep 6829 21:39:47 BST 1993 < 1336855199 691233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's still there, though < 1336855218 969853 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it? < 1336855223 113133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not in coreutils < 1336855232 295261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was the bugreport about removing ddate, where it was (IIRC) first closed as "no, we won't remove it", but then they flipflopped and did. < 1336855239 975838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sdate's a library injection thing that causes date-related syscalls to return values in september 1993 < 1336855247 654105 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1336855248 689586 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tazpkg doesn't have cow hidden but my own pkgmgr has if cowsay is installed < 1336855253 48814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: eternal september < 1336855255 404810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: because september 1993 never ended < 1336855261 640213 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it < 1336855278 123096 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid though < 1336855283 290078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it would allow you to see what happens in case of strange values returned by date-related syscalls < 1336855297 188350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you tell http://www.df7cb.de/projects/sdate/mutt.png stupid < 1336855298 644603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: indeed, many programs act oddly or brokenly under sdate < 1336855309 55785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bonus: it does the same to outgoing Date headers) < 1336855334 952661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1336855379 217515 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone made a library injection thing for Random Standard Time too < 1336855385 65593 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336855389 692474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that just random timezones? < 1336855399 448194 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if RST would fit in POSIX locale framework < 1336855400 139401 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336855410 879915 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the timezone used in Random Hall at MIT < 1336855412 837508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does sdate have an option to change the reference month, or to do other things to date syscalls? (Possibly, add these features to same program including the ones for Random Standard Time and so on) < 1336855421 677083 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is really not a timezone but an alternate way of writing time < 1336855454 191167 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where hours 00 through 05 are spelled 24 through 29 < 1336855466 507326 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the day rolls over at a time when fewer people are awake < 1336855467 591734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=149321 "tags 149321 + wontfix; ddate is staying, and as indicated, 180737 is already fixed." Then there's #650321 where util-linux made ddate optional and people were asking Debian folks to add the --enable-ddate to the package. Too bored to search for when it finally went away. < 1336855499 122714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it lets you change the reference month, but nothing else < 1336855523 392646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: splitting it into a different package is an obvious thing to do < 1336855577 715679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly, though it's upstreamistically part of util-linux. Or at least was. < 1336855594 429781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a lot of people have objected to it, especially it being part of the base install. < 1336855603 85778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like #583503 "Subject: ddate: this useless joke program has no place in a base debian install" -- "I do not want this program on my machines and it has outstanding i18n/l10n bugs." < 1336855695 410176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a bit in 2003 in Debian when util-linux 2.11z-3 "Drop ddate. Closes: #149321, #174459, #180737" and then seven hours later util-linux 2.11z-4 "Put ddate back in, just to keep the natives quiet". < 1336855725 11326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I see it's totally gone in latest util-linux versions even without an entry in the changelog. Perhaps the upstream dropped it. < 1336855839 663723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was looking at an old changelog. < 1336855925 141916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact util-linux 2.20.1-2 in debian stable says "Re-enable ddate, disabled by default upstream in 2.20". But a search for the file name in Debian unstable doesn't find it, so I don't quite know what's up with it. < 1336855930 880268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/stab/unstab/ < 1336855934 342216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unstabbed debian. < 1336855991 878320 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336856005 631608 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much easier to stab than to unstab < 1336856397 139227 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i just can't ignore your techno < 1336856461 740990 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : why do you think it's a cpu cost < because on youtube the videos are stuttering while they're caching. also, the caching is much slower while i'm doing playback. < 1336856613 508283 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, have you finished the game continuity yet < 1336856617 138455 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really cool < 1336856625 778340 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooler than porificetal < 1336856642 645898 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not cooler than portal2 though which i haven't pld yet < 1336856651 793287 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://continuitygame.com/playcontinuity.html < 1336856653 571831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: im bring it < 1336856659 445041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: los euclidaen los is bad hi < 1336856712 579924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus christ monqy just tell me why using Euclidean LOS for lighting is Bad. < 1336856729 15161 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336856746 687864 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which aspects are euclidean here < 1336856854 516815 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the LOS. < 1336856874 459117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unspecific < 1336856882 225204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have euclidean circlelos and euclidean squarelos < 1336856893 464059 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shape of the lines i assume he means, not how they're bounded < 1336856906 370981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :euclidean circlelos looks like an approximation of a circle on a euclidean display, euclidean squarelos looks like a square on a euclidean display < 1336856907 237331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: right < 1336856953 131861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what the hell you're going on about < 1336856953 994378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the shape of the lines: i'm sure i have my reasons for disliking it but the only ones i can recall at the moment are "wow it feels ugly and i just don't like it" and "it's harder for players to predict/measure when something will be in los from a certain position" < 1336856967 623383 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOS can't look like either a square or circle, it's just a line. < 1336856974 769534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336856979 959288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're confusing it with the distance metric. < 1336856981 269461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how los works < 1336856983 789563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nno < 1336856984 535912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not < 1336856992 916657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in crawl-likes < 1336856997 917854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :los is the region around you that you can see < 1336857007 767937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you still see a map around the rest if you've been there but it's dimmed and you don't get any updates to it) < 1336857024 256113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in crawl it's a circle so if you stand in a featureless plane you'll see an illuminated circle-approximation around you < 1336857037 381679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can't see or target anything outside (and the same applies to monsters) < 1336857044 32008 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, well fair point wrt prediction, but in this case it's the lighting engine: you don't really need to be able to predict lines of sight, just make them look natural. < 1336857057 708629 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and continuity finished < 1336857065 266732 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you do need to predict lines of sight for ducking around corners to avoid monsters, etc. < 1336857070 529580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes < 1336857071 167688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do < 1336857072 268327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above < 1336857073 918452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what monsters see < 1336857079 572540 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waitwaitwait, you were doing this for the /player's/ LOS? < 1336857080 752034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :los is a very game-relevant thing < 1336857085 959637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: player and monsters < 1336857087 801300 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK your algorithm is even more batshit insane. < 1336857127 729560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1336857135 120898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not defending my algorithm but < 1336857143 663930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im undefending a euclidean algorithm < 1336857166 490623 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it seems like the best option by far. < 1336857186 53820 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously it can be unintuitive and it's a hack, but it's still closest to what you expect. < 1336857195 710528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1336857196 288969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1336857220 699388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in crawl i just take it on faith that where i'm running will get me out of los of the spellcaster/ranged-attack enemy < 1336857225 133699 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"closest to what you expect"? < 1336857226 749075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm often wrong < 1336857261 297635 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm weird but i wouldn't expect a game on a square grid to approximate euclidean stuff < 1336857320 207335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well what else would you expect? < 1336857388 72575 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something between "something based on the distance metric" and "no expectations because everyone runs to euclidean so it'd be unwise to expect people do things other than that" < 1336857448 170592 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing is that when you have a distance metric without even remotely unique shortest paths calculating lines of sight is inevitably arbitrary. < 1336857516 493353 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1336857577 379245 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Euclidean shortest path seems to be the most intuitive one. < 1336857666 753250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem like that to me but whatever. if you're basing this on your intuition i don't think there's anything i can do to stop you??? < 1336857801 515707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a live replay of the infamous 2012 monqy–Phantom_Hoover "battle of the losses" < 1336857817 443280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :within a week the human race was extinct :( < 1336857874 701506 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336857898 669533 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┌───────────────────────┐ < 1336857898 845473 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :│ whoever wins, we lose │ < 1336857899 532045 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :└───────────────────────┘ < 1336857921 586095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop doing that box thing < 1336857932 863031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, well I have to admit I've never played Crawl so I don't know the gameplay considerations beyond having seen a similar system in Dwarf Fortress. < 1336858024 569125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you should play crawl!!!! < 1336858309 45236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i cant im windows user now < 1336858317 347253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: most people play online < 1336858320 293977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dont version its all lies) < 1336858324 932178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have putty you can play the same as everyone else does!! < 1336858330 851906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry windows user < 1336858438 629341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: putty is for windows !!! < 1336858462 186167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1336858468 457836 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows 3 user?? < 1336858481 147630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suggests Big Idea to improve Unity on Unity mailing list < 1336858498 234501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some small ideas too, but I want to get the big one done first to make the small ones more palatable < 1336858539 179157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the idea < 1336858548 664944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i think windows 3 had telnet < 1336858585 184903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt that it supported curses < 1336858597 351062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1336858600 682263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know anything about telnet < 1336858622 691627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ph is going to play crawl lets watch < 1336858642 177749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdo? < 1336858656 993454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaep < 1336858672 736797 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that it didn't work on Windows when I telnetted into that crawl server. < 1336858690 988466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy ping, Batman! < 1336858727 455648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl.akrasiac.org may be faster if you're in america!!! < 1336858768 590561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: also choose "trunk" < 1336858773 856878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont play stable versions theyre so unfashionable < 1336858781 551680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to say except for 4.1 but < 1336858783 27593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an alpha! < 1336858826 279955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: we,re waitinge < 1336858840 525274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am enthusiastic enough about Unity to write patches for it /even though it's written in C++/! < 1336858857 788200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what was the big idaees < 1336858871 815254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: allowing you to pin things more precisely than applications < 1336858887 877676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they'd want to move away from an application-centric model < 1336858901 800666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can pin a "compose email" window, or a "terminal running telnet to nethack.alt.org", or a particular folder in my filesystem (it's pretty shocking that you can't do that already, btw) < 1336858917 862697 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336858918 33037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not moving away from an application-centric model; it's just blurring the boundaries of what an application is < 1336858924 545439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you consider gmail to be an application? < 1336858938 931782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not agreeing with their position < 1336858943 619557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm arguing that both gmail and chromium should be considered applications, even though one runs within the other < 1336858945 920977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "application" is an artificial boundary anyway < 1336858953 744199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: chromium already supports saving as an application, anyway < 1336858955 610076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, I'm just making the boundary configurable < 1336858965 280205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point is that the application-centric ideology is incoherent < 1336858967 188901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: indeed, but the OS doesn't know that < 1336858975 383972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't attempt to disprove that by telling me it's arbitrary < 1336858982 880723 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not trying to disprove you < 1336858984 878649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: im waitinge! < 1336858989 927186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you waitinge < 1336858992 443832 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336858996 729926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: were waitinge < 1336858998 922456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make it a little more coherent by letting the user specify where their mental boundaries are < 1336859022 636462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I didn't say it wasn't an improvement < 1336859034 912400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1336859036 286044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since they hold an application-centric ideology, they will probably be quite tied to the current definition of application < 1336859038 702789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we disagreeing with each other or not? < 1336859045 743197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I suspect they'll not be fond of the change, at least to start with < 1336859050 985653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be overly-cynical and proven wrong < 1336859066 966190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, the fun thing is, it's possible to do that already, but with a lot of manual work in config files, and it's buggy < 1336859088 598310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to be precise, you have to use your new manual files to start things rather than starting them from places other than the launcher, e.g. a terminal window) < 1336859090 495221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok playing crawll < 1336859115 374274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you can do this already let's make it not so stupidly user-unfriendly" is the sort of line I expect to work well on the Unity people < 1336859116 124570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im watching < 1336859118 888775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336859124 450490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: recommend Phantom_Hoover a combo or somethinge < 1336859126 957077 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im watche < 1336859129 281778 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaahhhhhhh < 1336859132 468840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: demonspawn is ok < 1336859132 640203 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you recommend < 1336859137 135934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe berserker or abyssal knight < 1336859144 997278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1336859145 937996 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up kmc < 1336859146 333618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336859149 446331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont't do that < 1336859158 935750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph < 1336859159 584409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336859168 317583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph < 1336859170 627815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop playing naie < 1336859182 344720 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much < 1336859190 302749 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a program to put stuff in boxes < 1336859192 570709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, it's kind-of fun when you accidentally introduce a segfault into your window manager < 1336859198 778218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to i throw < 1336859202 235121 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1336859207 353979 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :z to spelle < 1336859210 660368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no Phantom_Hoover you have to actually playe now < 1336859219 302148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had quite a bit of practice at recovering from that; alt-f1 is useful, so is having lots of windows open that can run arbitrary shell commands (Emacs, etc) < 1336859351 936686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know you can start a window manager from a Linux (i.e. non-GUI) terminal and have it work on the X display? (actually, probably you did) < 1336859373 772967 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what wm are you using and how do you manage to segfault it? < 1336859387 652798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: compiz, and by patching Unity (which is implemented as a compiz plugin) < 1336859427 978002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hi < 1336859432 966742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: try o < 1336859435 588662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1336859436 856196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't play naie < 1336859447 628614 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried naie elliott < 1336859472 44630 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336859490 952183 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336859556 491458 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you know that you can start X without anything that starts when using startx by typing X (or Xorg or Xvesa or Xfvdev depending on your system) < 1336859569 327751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: yes, I did < 1336859575 782581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :found that out while developing weboflies < 1336859595 88808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Xvfb if you don't want it to contact your hardware at all < 1336859654 115679 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have you used Xvfb? < 1336859663 999372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, well sort of < 1336859675 932332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't yet used it in an environment where it doesn't automatically segfault < 1336859689 315742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to mapping things too close to the growing end of the stack < 1336859696 292989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to fix that weboflies bug… < 1336859879 580945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: web oflies < 1336859880 343678 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what do you mean put stuff in boxes? < 1336859888 140782 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw, http://jimblog.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/c++map2.png < 1336860170 400742 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336860198 134455 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336860228 313082 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh i didn't know about std::rope < 1336860354 308824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, someone on the mailing list seems to agree with me, but that's not very surprising, there are lost of people on the list < 1336860371 837237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of lost people < 1336860560 78259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were a bunch of people trying to persuade the Unity devs to add click-to-minimize for applications with one window open, which would be massively confusing and inconsistent, so I can see why they said no < 1336860581 814785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in a diplomatic way, along the lines of "we want that to do something else in the next version, so there's no point in changing it now" < 1336861501 156897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336861539 739380 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336862098 663239 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336862742 157159 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> sleep < 1336862743 45183 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336862785 754520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ph bye ph < 1336863015 140325 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well obviously i linked you to it, which means i know more about c++ than you! < 1336863023 318033 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i will now perform seppuku. < 1336863126 353289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what's the easiest way to get a list of all functions in curses? nm? the man page (I think there's a list there)? < 1336863153 243058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash keys randomly and press enter every sixth letter or so < 1336863165 17061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :avoid too many vowels < 1336863180 324323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, a /correct/ list < 1336863188 704589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be surprised how effective that would be < 1336863225 488496 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did u know of the "select" keyword in bash < 1336863230 90961 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :select f in aaa bbb ccc ddd ; do echo $f ; break ; done < 1336863240 505564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, here is my Grand Plan for Unity: https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg09410.html < 1336863280 227734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's Gmail, not GMail, by the way < 1336863295 816174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care :) < 1336863300 521620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I'll get it right in the future < 1336863305 14341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it's Googlemail, in the UK < 1336863307 367762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for trademark reasons < 1336863307 683567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's not < 1336863311 799245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been Gmail everywhere for years < 1336863318 740281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, did they manage to buy a license? < 1336863330 612159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1336863331 868525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sued the company out of existence or something < 1336863337 883045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or killed everyone who works there < 1336863341 982054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Google, who knows? < 1336863359 688378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I just realised how weird it is for an originally-Google Google product to not start with Google < 1336863363 26326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gmail" is a strange word < 1336863414 752841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, how could you pin a nethack server with a file? < 1336863421 361417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :write an .sh file? < 1336863431 602518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you'd pin "telnet nethack.alt.org" < 1336863439 353591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's rather hopelessly vague < 1336863442 774056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is actually technically possible right now, but you have to write the .desktop file by hand < 1336863445 637972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, that's a shell command < 1336863448 714509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not simply pin files directly, and open them in the relevant application? < 1336863458 468329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd pin an .sh for a terminal, or a folder for Nautilus < 1336863475 409786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, make it a URI, so you can do the browser thing too < 1336863481 19305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because if you do "telnet nethack.alt.org" in a terminal /not/ via the .sh file, it wouldn't be detected as the thing you'd pinned < 1336863485 852877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything /already supports/ opening a URI in an appropriate application < 1336863494 840761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could use telnet://nethack.alt.org/ < 1336863497 483108 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise, things like the compose email window in Evolution, I want to be able to pin that < 1336863508 576203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: err, that's going to require /way/ too much cooperation with applications to work < 1336863511 971624 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the point of "nethack servers" < 1336863512 354168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it can't reasonably be described with a URI, /and/ I want it to be detected if you click on "new mail" in Evolution < 1336863519 717229 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They got something that the usual distribution doesn't? < 1336863526 436682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: you can't cheat, and people can watch < 1336863529 959693 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: people can watch you, it proves you aren't cheating, you can get other people's bones < 1336863534 644616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more or less every serious nethack player plays on servers < 1336863536 503281 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1336863544 277163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except for really oldschool people, I guess) < 1336863544 295738 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spectating is a good point < 1336863546 293668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the DevTeam) < 1336863549 366419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the "/way/ too much cooperation with applications" is the route I'm going through < 1336863565 376357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's that much of a problem, really < 1336863573 595469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen how much cooperation already exists? < 1336863574 625921 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack pr0gamers < 1336863577 802598 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬u¬ < 1336863578 683531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: seems like mine gives 80% of the benefits with 20% of the effort < 1336863594 56470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and your original email describes my scheme < 1336863597 338471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nah, pinning the compose mail window (so it doesn't group with my inbox) is actually the change that I most want < 1336863600 232909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say anything about shell lines or anything, just files < 1336863609 863007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use "file" in a general sense, perhaps that's misleading < 1336863618 775464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a compose mail window is not a file < 1336863630 31651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is in this model < 1336863635 803661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which implies it's badly named < 1336863644 1161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how can Unity know how to open the compose mail window in Evolution, just because you tell it about the window? < 1336863663 617731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because Evolution tells it how < 1336863664 511901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd require a /lot/ more code in applications to handle this sort of stuff < 1336863683 566087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: for every single window Evolution can open? < 1336863692 473798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think this is unreasonable, try, say, right-clicking on Chromium, or Nautilus, or Firefox in Unity < 1336863693 893561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the translation to the codepath required to open them won't be trivial < 1336863699 342739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know about that < 1336863712 405187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's much less code than would be required for this < 1336863718 435550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I wouldn't bother doing it for, say, preferences dialogs < 1336863734 430377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, I guess you could pin the inbox and then have all the other windows Evolution opens under Evolution rather than Inbox (Evolution) < 1336864890 335306 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336865175 942937 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1336865570 524730 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why? It was a bad quote. < 1336865682 742136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway, the work will need to be done anyway so that you can pin files from having them open in applications, rather than just from Nautilus or whatever < 1336865703 318364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/me: making things slightly more usable even if it takes five times the effort < 1336866763 563212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, why does tcgetpgrp only work on a terminal you're currently connected to? < 1336866810 813273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can understand wanting to compare users, but not to compare controlling terminals < 1336866822 158242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't my program on terminal 1 check to see which program is currently running on terminal 2/ < 1336867034 95841 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336868103 611690 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-127-133.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336868281 379172 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-153-181.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336868301 259404 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CF41.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336869096 337543 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXfyH0rt3M < 1336869097 237260 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1336870172 473826 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336870192 101776 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336870243 19184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rehi < 1336870257 371178 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1336870263 697469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi again < 1336870271 138980 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it < 1336870308 117783 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to see if the owner of esolangs wanted to do a link exchagen with http://codecompiler.info < 1336870364 967820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're still here, right? < 1336870382 259647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336870390 362415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: can you specify what you mean by link exchange exactly? < 1336870440 448495 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well because i'm adding support for more and more esolangs on codecompiler we could link to each others site as both of our visitors care about esolangs < 1336870466 659277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wouldn't linking the compiler from the pages of the languages it supports be more reasonable? < 1336870508 548253 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh that would be good < 1336870561 643614 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only does about 5 right now but it's really easy to add more so we can have more links with each other < 1336870897 450656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, anybody can add relevant external links to pages on the wiki... < 1336871004 591391 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they dofollow and would you like me to put a link esolangs.org on codecompiler.info ? < 1336871107 156988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mediawiki nofollows links to avoid spamming < 1336871199 283696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the whole of esolangs.org runs on MediaWiki < 1336871291 80313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: how many visitors (or at least hits) does your site get a month, anyway? esolangs.org is relatively high-traffic (for a small site, at least) < 1336871451 554751 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was getting about 500 a day when it worked but now that it's been on a sever for 2 months where it doesn't actually work the traffic has droped but i'm getting a vps for it in the next few days and it should get backup and i'm adding a register system where you get to complie more per day if you refer more people < 1336871499 381406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :500 visitors or hits? < 1336871633 325709 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :visitors per day < 1336871653 917883 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if hits aren't visitors what are they? i always though they were the same as visitors < 1336871664 222762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hits are individual page loads; visitors are usually counted by unique IPs < 1336871668 946763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hits are a lot easier to count < 1336871698 380167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just checked; esolangs.org gets about 23000-26000 hits per day; it'll be trickier to get the number of visits, but I'll try and write an awk script to do it... < 1336871854 921650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, we get about 1250-1380 visitors per day < 1336871925 579287 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats pretty good < 1336872008 807171 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll put codecompiler links in all the languages it supports and add one in the navigation bar < 1336872017 233910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which navigation bar? < 1336872084 274892 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one where it says Home Esolangs Codepanel.net About Us Login / Register < 1336872095 259317 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you ever get that Stripe shirt? < 1336872110 285059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336872182 802232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki already has some links to your site, actually < 1336872191 863139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect there might be quite a lot of overlap between your visitors and our visitors, really < 1336872204 285248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you getting the visitor count statistic from? < 1336872216 475902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is from the nginx access logs with duplicate IPs removed < 1336872334 266723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I think removing the nofollow (which I'm not entirely sure how to do, anyway, and which would require modifying LocalSettings.php) in return for visitors might count as an ad, which I cannot add to the site < 1336872472 528098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: hmm, codecompiler.info fails to compile the cell test in http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/tests.b < 1336872481 839313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the problem is; perhaps because I didn't select an OS? when I do that, the esolangs list disappears < 1336872547 702227 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh it's because i'm getting a new server in a few days so until then nothing will compiler < 1336872553 625564 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*compile < 1336872755 649975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: out of curiosity, what sandboxing are you using? < 1336872863 8024 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't need one because it doesn't actually run any of the programs, people have uploaded virus and scripts and it compiles them and nothing else happens, everybody was telling me they could take it down easily but they were ALL wrong < 1336872887 984019 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not let anybody understand how the site works < 1336872921 730631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you support D; D supports running code at compile time < 1336872928 607218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and security through obscurity is generally considered a bad idea < 1336872989 15070 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D doesn't work yet < 1336873002 849344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but when it does... :) < 1336873047 665420 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codecompiler controls how it is compiled all the users controls is what is in the file < 1336873068 78086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right: D lets you run code at compile-time < 1336873070 461673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with its template stuff < 1336873075 683513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just by writing a code file < 1336873155 359190 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats why i've not include D yet < 1336873171 862845 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to put this in: http://php.net/manual/en/runkit.sandbox.php before re-release < 1336873188 894060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just sandboxes PHP itself, not any process it runs < 1336873198 641059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll probably want UMLBox or a virtual machine for the latter < 1336873207 697096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(UMLBox is what our EgoBot and HackEgo bots, which allow execution of arbitrary code, work) < 1336873209 885287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1336873211 330250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(UMLBox is what our EgoBot and HackEgo bots, which allow execution of arbitrary code, use) < 1336873323 533591 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i use that from php? < 1336873367 645079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a standalone program, so probably use whatever mechanism you currently use to call the compilers < 1336873368 522350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/umlbox < 1336873610 818474 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336873617 8668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: Anyway, if you'd like to get nofollow removed from links, bring it up on the community portal's talk page to see what the community thinks; I would be breaking trust of several people if I were to do it out of my own volition rather than the community's. < 1336873649 446160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_portal < 1336873666 17395 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to esolangs and saw that they were all dofollow links anyway < 1336873680 923539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, they're not < 1336873685 690075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :internal links are < 1336873688 160572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :external links aren't: < 1336874045 52897 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1336874210 594723 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CF41.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336874326 541719 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1336875397 384860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's that solved < 1336875497 814566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :temporarily, at least < 1336875520 620048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, have I spoken in here about my love of people sequence-breaking live-action gameshows? it isn't really the right channel… < 1336875646 76647 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could there be a better channel? < 1336875660 166378 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I wonder what game shows can be sequence-broken ... < 1336875670 168023 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I accidentally sequence-broke Portal 2 and caused a bizarre plot hole in the process!) < 1336875733 404172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: typically action ones where the puzzle is basically "get from A to B" or "starting at A get item X" and there's a bunch of obstacles that are meant to be combined creatively to solve the problem < 1336875767 879417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sequence breaks normally involve holding onto things you weren't intended to hold on (one I saw today involved hooks on the ceiling that you were meant to hang a walkway from, instead the contestant just held onto the hooks and swung across the ceilng) < 1336875790 328166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively, gaining more height than expected (reaching things you weren't expected to reach by jumping, or by standing on the shoulders of a partner rather than sitting on them) < 1336875858 495726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised nobody's beaten one of the puzzles where you're meant to retrieve a code to unlock something by brute-forcing the code < 1336875870 692172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems doable if you recover a few digits but not all of them < 1336875901 851131 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on the way the game is presented, it may not be doable < 1336875907 606987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of course < 1336875914 552009 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it may be seen as a rules violation < 1336875916 278038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty rare, and typically fixed in future runnings of the show < 1336875928 155572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like shows which don't penalise people for unintended solutions < 1336875950 806694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you're right, the show's producers could arbitrarily forbid things if they liked < 1336875968 578196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's particularly obnoxious in the UK version of Gladiators (the US version is known as American Gladiators in the US)) < 1336875980 901374 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question I would say comes down to whether failure to follow instructions is a violation < 1336875986 561426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whole load of people getting disqualified for not going about the events the exact way they were supposed to < 1336875999 252189 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in Survivor, the challenges are described as "do X, then Y, then the first person to do Z wins" < 1336876007 117460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in the cases I was talking about, there weren't explicit instructions, you were meant to figure it out < 1336876012 481104 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's bad < 1336876027 396410 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be interpreted as either "you must do X and Y and then Z" or "you must do Z. X and Y are the suggested and intented means." < 1336876044 824690 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you definitely should not have invisible rules < 1336876058 327999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, in the cases where sequence-breaking was allowed < 1336876062 691585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the cases where it was forbidden < 1336876099 703031 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1336876101 45914 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1336876113 892214 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although my comment about Survivor's instructions stands. Are they rules or suggestions? < 1336876134 196737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1336876145 244485 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching closely tends to indicate they are rules, but they don't show that much on TV < 1336876148 545053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really watched Survivor much, btw; it's not very popular in the UK so doesn't get shown much < 1336876168 677021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was shown more in Canada, but French subtitles really throw me off following English speech, for some reason < 1336876176 386331 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, Ottawa < 1336876208 563248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the TV channels vary in language composition from province to province/city to city? < 1336876221 378727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems unlikely that the TV in Ottawa is significantly different to the rest of Ontario < 1336876223 480999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps it is < 1336876242 150079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there weren't French subtitles on everything, just on some things (and some things were in French outright) < 1336876296 569014 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it does. < 1336876322 711075 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :French shows and even subtitles are quite rare elsewhere. < 1336876348 943921 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the National Capital Region is definitely one of the most bilingual areas of the country < 1336876363 312744 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Montreal and most of New Brunswick being the others < 1336876369 70020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is really incredibly bilingual < 1336876382 919371 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :having not visited them all, I can't say which is most < 1336876396 743558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind-of funny, really, given that pretty much everyone there knows both English /and/ French it's not quite clear how they generally choose to communicate < 1336876399 804728 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but certainly all the public service is bilingual, and Ottawa is largely public service < 1336876404 563195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the first person to speak picks a language and other people go with it < 1336876407 710546 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336876413 848798 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else you alternate < 1336876424 712859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised that the languages haven't got mixed together there < 1336876433 909654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people using French words in English sentences, etc < 1336876437 59667 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an interesting study in Parliament of the various approaches to speaking < 1336876446 788268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps they have, just didn't to me because I only spoke in English < 1336876453 751554 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so as much < 1336876470 475825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and my British accent probably betrayed the fact that I don't actually know much French) < 1336876472 230170 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of the bilingualism is for work, not cultural, reasons < 1336876484 806092 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate when it's 10:30 and I realize I didn't eat dinner X_X < 1336876496 574385 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some English loanwords in Québecois French, but not that many the other way < 1336876507 958509 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :("c'est ok" is a particularly egregious one) < 1336876508 304857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: am or pm? presumably pm, if you're talking about now < 1336876513 637304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ouch! < 1336876527 277819 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's even pronounced "kay" rather than "kah" < 1336876539 297141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I like the way you typed the é but not the ç < 1336876551 424211 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot about the cedilla there :) < 1336876576 150289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a ç key on your keyboard? < 1336876621 563239 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I use dead keys < 1336876624 979087 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ç < 1336876628 961143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, I conclude that Canada is actually too large for my mind to comprehend) < 1336876636 587598 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is /weird/ < 1336876639 216903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to be fair, even the UK is close to large enough for that) < 1336876669 504565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it isn't very large) < 1336876760 140046 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: am or pm? presumably pm, if you're talking about now // yes, PM < 1336876861 940531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: and by "dinner" you mean evening meal? < 1336876956 870219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how large Ottawa is compared to, say, London < 1336876960 516924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine it's smaller, but am not sure < 1336877031 436734 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in Parliament, you get the Bloc, who always speak French to make a point, the Westerners, who can't speak French so always speak English, the MPs who aren't super-comfortable with their non-preferred language so they will only speak it in response to a question in that language, out of courtesy, and the MPs who are confident in both and switch often, even in the same speech. By convention, the Speaker is always the last kind, and ... < 1336877037 447562 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... also by convention, the Deputy Speaker does not have the same native language as the Speaker, although the Deputy Speaker obeys the same conventions while speaking. < 1336877071 196134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that must be quite hard to follow < 1336877097 233282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at the parliament TV channel a bit in Canada; they were speaking in English at the time, but I couldn't really understand what they were saying anyway < 1336877111 629186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understood the individual points, but it was a very nomicky bit of recursive procedure < 1336877115 597441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than actual lawmaking < 1336877115 942873 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Ottawa, was it English, French, or floor audio? < 1336877123 625446 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's gotten particularly bad lately < 1336877129 141375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was what? < 1336877134 420403 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPAC < 1336877144 987992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, what I was watching was in English < 1336877147 908809 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336877151 708420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't watch enough of it to know if it'd be in French at some point < 1336877176 618477 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's live translated < 1336877191 278055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense, really < 1336877200 442916 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336877226 549833 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :floor audio is what they call the feed with no translation < 1336877235 674182 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MPs have earpieces they can use to listen to the live translators < 1336877263 955150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I imagine that most countries don't have multilingual governments < 1336877268 146940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Canada seems to deal with that quite well < 1336877274 92257 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. It's pretty amazing, really. < 1336877274 636519 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336877287 708755 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336877305 650736 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they produce bilingual transcripts by the next day. < 1336877328 718180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I guess the real question is why Quebec hasn't become independent yet; do they not want to leave, or does the rest of the country not want them to go? < 1336877347 126141 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently visiting parliamentary delegations are consistently impressed by the turnaround time much less the turnaround time in two languages < 1336877370 158062 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It came to referendum twice and came very very close to passing the second time < 1336877370 502467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if it's being translated anyway, transcripts for two languages are only twice as hard as transcripts for one < 1336877381 513984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they can just transcript the translated audio < 1336877389 2996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: referendum across the whole country, or across just Quebec? < 1336877393 265379 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just Quebec < 1336877416 604994 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but they need to be made sure to be accurate, and the live translation might not be so accurate. < 1336877425 342298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right < 1336877435 854574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be hard to actually translate it, sometimes < 1336877436 510351 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second referendum in particular was panned for being particularly badly-worded < 1336877453 454541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "This English sentence is hard to translate into French." < 1336877481 239083 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :feelings across Canada tend to vary roughly linearly with distance from Québec < 1336877500 842063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the UK, there's actually a government body responsible for wording referendums < 1336877511 71163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't really like their wording on the single transferable vote issue < 1336877520 789553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least it wasn't as bad as some of the ones they considered < 1336877532 190975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there was a PDF online explaining their reasoning (with focus groups backing it up!) < 1336877555 621607 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :plenty of people feel that Québec is an important part of Canada and they'd rather keep it (msyelf included) < 1336877576 666603 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some sentiment that they're a bit of whiners and/or get special treatment and we'd be better off without them < 1336877590 83436 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in my experience it is usually more of a "fine, let them go, see how well they do without the rest of us" < 1336877596 597353 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than a "yeah let's get rid of them" < 1336877603 398887 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that the latter don't exist, they just aren't very common < 1336877662 576030 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a Supreme Court case trying to determine if Québec could secede unilaterally at some point, I think around the second referendum < 1336877681 191219 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The outcome was basically "they can't do so unilaterally, but if they voted to, then they couldn't just be ignored" < 1336877689 624926 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so both sides claimed it as a victory < 1336877694 379907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :were they /trying/ to secede unilaterally? or was it a just-in-case thing? < 1336877712 364901 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proponents of the referendum sure would have like it to be unilateral < 1336877739 544040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess the answer is, that if they /did/ secede unilaterally, then they wouldn't consider the supreme court judgement binding on them anyway < 1336877765 618992 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since then, the Clarity Act was passed, which basically sets up a minimum standard of referendum for secession, and then commits the governments to working out how it would actually work should a vote succeed < 1336877802 587737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me a bit of the law in the UK, which says that a union can't go on strike unless its members vote for one < 1336877822 208412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's part of the measures taken to avoid a repeat of the infamous miner's strike several decades ago < 1336877830 163303 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(4) For the purpose of subsection (3), a clear expression of the will of the population of a province that the province cease to be part of Canada could not result from < 1336877833 611249 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) a referendum question that merely focuses on a mandate to negotiate without soliciting a direct expression of the will of the population of that province on whether the province should cease to be part of Canada; or < 1336877835 808091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic idea is to avoid coercing people into striking, while still letting them do so if they want to < 1336877837 625920 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) a referendum question that envisages other possibilities in addition to the secession of the province from Canada, such as economic or political arrangements with Canada, that obscure a direct expression of the will of the population of that province on whether the province should cease to be part of Canada. < 1336877843 177972 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336878033 186665 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336878189 78089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, if you want a referendum to pass, you just give the yes option and /two/ no options < 1336878193 831503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the no options dilute each other < 1336878362 438331 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336878387 924998 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should make a voting reform referendum with a number of options, using AV :P < 1336878497 336619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't proper! The vote should just be yes/no, possibly with comments if they are needed? < 1336878512 172259 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Puerto Rico actually has that problem < 1336878543 252149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336878597 780990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336878601 393827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1336878614 340439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, apparently my IRC client juts segfaulted < 1336878615 904515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*just < 1336879181 204613 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puerto Rico has had referendums in the past where they are offered a) statehood b) status quo c) independence < 1336879199 780619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1336879208 665129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to favour the status quo? < 1336879219 349115 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My understanding is there are a fair number who would prefer a or c to b, but a and c invariably split that vote, and the indeciseveness means that the status quo gets chosen by default < 1336879240 201782 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're planning a new one that first says "should we accept the status quo" and then if the answer is no, they will do another to decide between statehood and independence < 1336879272 836953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is unfair in another way, of course < 1336879286 465717 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1336879288 530953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :approval vote would be a good solution for that sort of referendum, IMO < 1336879291 580933 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336879299 880555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :STV would work too but seems like overkill < 1336879326 565892 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just AV < 1336879335 584149 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AV is lim_{n\to 1} STV < 1336879343 205023 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :where n is the number of outcomes selected < 1336879368 232986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1336879373 822304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even AV is overkill for something like that < 1336879412 142939 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :approval would be good < 1336879849 52752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of dream did you have? < 1336879978 739780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the dream I had last night, Totem was a package manager… < 1336879989 136973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I berated it for its technological inaccuracy when I woke up < 1336880205 807252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, you're missing brilliant games of monqys-crawl < 1336880211 248383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the same as monqy's crawl) < 1336880263 136929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/li/l/ < 1336880665 488479 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have type Expander = StateT [Declaration] []; but now I think that might be wrong because, it may read only some declarations while expanding macros, and then the macros are capable to add new declarations, but we need to keep track of which declaration added on, which the compiler then may need to call the expander again to expand macros in new blocks, etc < 1336880843 670081 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am somewhat confuse how to do < 1336880936 176014 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336881101 394943 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336881564 711885 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336881596 526995 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336883152 138804 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336885593 18973 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I just won agora < 1336885597 900936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: congrats < 1336885601 252074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to win monqys-crawl < 1336885603 46972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's /really difficult/ < 1336885608 90271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you should telnet termcast.org, choose elliottmq < 1336885612 672731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :view a brief glimpse of monqys-crawl endgame < 1336885614 799645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's nothing like crawl) < 1336885623 122053 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who wants a MATHEMATICS PUZZLE?!? < 1336885698 538355 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-225-178.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336885859 161413 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336886183 648880 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grah, PuTTY < 1336886701 148305 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336886782 24777 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336891297 512602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336891297 639955 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336891297 956229 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336891667 785194 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1336892225 912028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336892396 65654 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336892756 338286 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336892822 707762 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336893314 157941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh dear, I just noticed the domain name at the top of proggit right now < 1336893319 605307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"alan.dipert.org" < 1336893323 76462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it THE ALAN DIPERT, I wonder? < 1336893325 154338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i commented on that earlier < 1336893326 55653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1336893585 564089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I think I've seen that page before < 1336893860 465837 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alan Dipert? < 1336893877 437320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*THE ALAN DIPERT < 1336895171 174929 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-140-41.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336895171 882230 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1336895214 215369 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-225-178.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336895517 256081 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336896547 210140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336896692 114921 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336896692 133111 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336896692 133263 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336896735 134330 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.122 NICK :Guest19059 < 1336897385 847500 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kmc i just can't choose: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=html&cat=personas&appver=&platform= ----------- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=php&cat=personas < 1336897385 974785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336898139 747516 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336898141 998836 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336898202 643327 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Taneb < 1336898206 86607 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see the update? < 1336898208 743218 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1336899679 141194 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1336900181 673540 :Guest19059!~augur@206.196.187.122 NICK :augur < 1336901724 726035 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336901792 639150 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-140-41.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336902031 929466 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336902189 826963 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a thought just occured to me.. for a program which takes code with gotos, and reorganizes it into code without gotos < 1336902215 739740 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean 'without gotos'? < 1336902231 691691 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean loop-based, it's extremely difficult, if not impossible. < 1336902264 631016 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can always write the equivalent program without gotos < 1336902270 417598 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loops, conditionals, loop breaks, continues, anything but the gotos < 1336902272 340196 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :However automating that transform might be a bit hard < 1336902280 82614 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: why < 1336902280 216058 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336902292 887347 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1336902293 67998 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_ said 1h 21m 46s ago: i just can't choose: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=html&cat=personas&appver=&platform= ----------- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/? < 1336902293 175710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :q=php&cat=personas < 1336902296 996875 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt anybody uses gotos without a good reason anymore < 1336902318 186436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-, obviously you can assuming the two things you're translating between are both TC. < 1336902334 148527 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1336902343 98623 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: help me choose < 1336902346 714947 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is BASIC TC? < 1336902359 576240 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when nelhage published http://livegrep.com some redditor was aghast to note that there are "over 50" gotos in the Linux kernel < 1336902365 199392 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1336902368 154274 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are like... many thousands < 1336902391 558434 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just write an interpreter for the goto language in the structured one, then get it to interpret the goto code. < 1336902399 426176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Automating that transform might be a bit hard? < 1336902404 110934 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hahaha < 1336902404 129353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's, uh, what a compiler does. < 1336902410 722386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no structured control at the machine levle. < 1336902412 871241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*level. < 1336902418 10717 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think you have it backwards < 1336902423 479108 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, he means no structured control -> structured control < 1336902428 417622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, oops. < 1336902438 9785 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i really meant some structued control -> all structured :D < 1336902443 760113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's still trivial, all you need is a switch and a while loop. < 1336902444 451528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey cool, alt-. makes a mid-dot < 1336902454 998915 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM GOING TO DO FULL STOPS LIKE THIS FROM NOW ON < 1336902458 391163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc will now complain at me for saying "trivial". < 1336902461 292762 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1336902469 854228 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it might be an acceptable use < 1336902476 806610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott remember when you did all ellipses like that < 1336902481 478013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :œ < 1336902483 846781 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all the reason i complain about "awesome" and "trivial" is not that I think these words should never be used < 1336902486 30044 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it looks like grey block for me < 1336902489 877624 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, he'd complain more if someone said "solved problem" < 1336902493 972168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: awesome < 1336902500 774757 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott :V < 1336902501 72239 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one good application for this would be so that people have no excuses to have code with gotos < 1336902504 971038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, even more reason to use it! < 1336902510 966709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :§ < 1336902513 801653 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: some code is much nicer when written with goto < 1336902514 835426 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A switch is just cheating < 1336902518 318631 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In C at least < 1336902525 98279 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when you have only C control flow < 1336902527 671134 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, you realise the goto battle was won long ago, right? < 1336902527 689076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A switch without fallovers or whatever. < 1336902533 259740 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :■■■■■■■■ < 1336902537 634633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :∞ < 1336902545 873205 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┌──────────┐ < 1336902546 48079 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :│ ■■■■■■■■ │ < 1336902546 65838 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :└──────────┘ < 1336902550 659344 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will start making full stops like this ■ < 1336902556 705556 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there■ < 1336902556 877309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody uses goto as their primary control structure any more. < 1336902563 118966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :÷πª•∞¢´∑ß≈ç√∫~∆˚øª•¶§∞åÎØÍÚÏÎ`˜ÂÁ¢ < 1336902584 554600 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a full stop really needs to be a fully black character■ < 1336902593 169713 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can type § without using any modifier keys kinda like ½ < 1336902597 629129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :≈ƒµçk≈ < 1336902601 359564 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it would be ridiculous to stop using goto altogether. < 1336902603 597948 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :☭ < 1336902603 615967 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :åäöäåöäå < 1336902610 326733 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :inb4 zalgo < 1336902613 943449 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have therefore said nothing :D < 1336902617 681748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ΉÅÊÓ ÍÓÈÊ < 1336902624 588821 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, zalgo? < 1336902633 294784 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no zalgo 4 u < 1336902637 322703 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1336902640 144095 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hurt■ < 1336902644 204525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :πøøπ < 1336902648 526335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :®øø∂ < 1336902661 606532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :§üπé® < 1336902665 944096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :˙鬬ø < 1336902666 979494 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm my boxifying script probably does not handle combining characters < 1336902692 130165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`MAN' < 1336902692 991852 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you have a boxifying script■ < 1336902700 225324 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: MAN': not found < 1336902702 675326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`´ < 1336902705 193871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :√ < 1336902706 54102 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ´: not found < 1336902710 159037 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can put stuff in boxes < 1336902727 949781 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that makes sense■ < 1336902794 947249 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does handle < 1336902797 926842 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┌────────────────────────────────┐ < 1336902800 895809 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :│ ＦＵＬＬＷＩＤＴＨ ＬＡＴＩＮ │ < 1336902803 484225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :└────────────────────────────────┘ < 1336902828 399387 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... does it handle fullwidth CJK? < 1336902832 14312 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336902838 109928 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1336902838 635146 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, it doesn't work in xchat anyways because variable width font■ < 1336902844 897399 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get the character properties from ICU < 1336902852 531374 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: :( < 1336902858 470366 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never did, kmc■ < 1336902859 27300 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Variable width fonts for IRC are just wrong < 1336902869 133829 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as hard as you might try■ < 1336902881 176165 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could work < 1336902884 369911 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: that's only until you start using them and your eyes don't hurt anymore■ < 1336902889 110918 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese people make "ASCII art" using variable width fonts < 1336902901 240570 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: yeah but the right wall won't line up at all■ < 1336902909 663430 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course they assume everybody's running exactly the same version of Windows with the same font and rendering method) < 1336902927 450152 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But then again over there everybody is still stuck with w2k or something) < 1336902939 333710 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't exactly exactly ascii art■ < 1336902940 26474 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And using operating systems besides Windows would dishonor your entire family) < 1336902945 746509 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more line drawing than anything■ < 1336902946 921707 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's not ASCII art. They still call it that. < 1336902958 672659 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you misunderstood me■ < 1336902961 467425 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even ASCII. < 1336902968 294219 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also not art■ < 1336902969 504344 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I didn't. < 1336902975 962106 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's boxes are merely kitsch■ < 1336902978 256605 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking about lining up stuff with variable width fonts < 1336902984 397864 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also these days anything can be art < 1336902986 27364 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336903007 316033 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as somebody thinks it's art, it's art. < 1336903008 903963 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the art of computer programming■ < 1336903024 161369 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If other people have problems accepting that all they need to do is call it experimental or progressive art < 1336903027 129005 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :go program some php, make art■ < 1336903049 615644 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's not progressive or experimental at all■ < 1336903070 656978 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say someone paints a really beautiful landscape, rembrandt style■ < 1336903073 585383 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is if somebody says so. < 1336903078 320984 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's touching■ < 1336903082 806120 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also wtf is with the ■ < 1336903083 841838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336903091 300515 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's neither progressive nor experimental■ < 1336903099 280676 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the new FULLER stop■ < 1336903107 359927 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1336903109 262544 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a FULL CHARACTER■ < 1336903116 65970 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine < 1336903122 681391 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I shall use the CJK full stop。 < 1336903129 88978 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free < 1336903133 934683 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got bored with my fuller stop < 1336903142 276468 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't be using it for the time being < 1336903171 214667 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay、 CJK fullーwidth full stop！ < 1336903207 419689 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮ < 1336903247 52371 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wut < 1336903304 634685 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :品 < 1336903309 625857 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :«серафими многоꙮчитїи» < 1336903321 218881 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336903340 583936 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :💩 < 1336903342 326518 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ꙭ < 1336903364 842123 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the one you just pasted < 1336903366 604186 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have it < 1336903367 329474 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Lame. 森 < 1336903376 935278 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f4a9/index.htm < 1336903392 923483 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336903402 482285 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably a very good unicode coverage testing character < 1336903405 962949 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only (?) unicode character with smell lines < 1336903413 432702 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually they should have combining smell lines < 1336903422 647075 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :轟 < 1336903423 163015 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should, shouldn't they < 1336903435 8878 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am surprised they ignore this fact so blatantly < 1336903472 273371 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ⅯⅭⅯⅬⅩⅩⅩⅧ < 1336903491 470326 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: 𪚥 < 1336903520 56112 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Zh%C3%A9.svg < 1336903539 399607 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using Mosh so i can't copy-paste characters wich aren't recognized by my locale :/ < 1336903569 760060 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :龘's also fun. < 1336903571 502476 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they turn into U+FFFD 'REPLACEMENT CHARACTER' < 1336903579 18007 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smell lines? < 1336903580 388014 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1336903638 463197 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336903716 791777 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe han characters were invented by dragons < 1336903772 424003 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking the other day about how chopsticks kinda suck compared to forks, but asian soup spoons are way better than western ones < 1336903787 988997 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to make this into an entire bullshit pop-psych theory about east vs west < 1336903856 187498 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336903917 584326 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chopsticks are versatile though < 1336904051 754913 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw somewhere that some japanese guy adding thumb shaped stubs to forks to make them look more like hands < 1336904101 148101 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc what was that haskell shell lib that allowed you to use combinators to pipe stuff around? < 1336904107 541880 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember < 1336904113 856359 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know which one i mean though? < 1336904128 380876 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336904135 792442 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so cryptic < 1336904141 683353 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336904199 365690 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does shqq have piping? < 1336904211 846734 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in any special way < 1336904226 882665 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the normal shell pipe within the quotation < 1336904232 403955 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[sh| foo | bar |] < 1336905059 445117 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336905078 691007 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-234-132.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336905250 394771 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-127-133.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336905275 170527 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3966632 < 1336905290 362142 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet that'll at least double my karma < 1336905305 523008 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, any mention of hskell = karma < 1336905312 19495 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1336905316 720068 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought reddit and hackernews were over haskell < 1336905324 318346 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1336905344 638380 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know /r/programming had a haskell phase but last i checked they had more of a haskell backlash < 1336905354 465923 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :however these days I avoid that place like the pits of hell < 1336905355 367515 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea i heard they had a haskell aversion < 1336905359 385573 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hn is pretty annoying too < 1336905359 766258 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hn is all functional < 1336905363 643429 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written in lisp isn't it < 1336905368 58557 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the nature of the beast < 1336905369 230168 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh paul graham is not a big haskell fan < 1336905376 1827 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :paul graham is not a big * fan < 1336905385 937759 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written in Arc actually < 1336905392 363892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is PG's crackhead Lisp dialect < 1336905392 882232 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's arc < 1336905395 367851 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336905400 139239 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pg's blub isn't it < 1336905403 158225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336905404 439634 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember reading about it < 1336905421 473915 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Lisp ≠ functional, if you read _On Lisp_ you'll see that PG doesn't particularly use a functional style < 1336905437 574379 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of Lispers will get really annoyed if you call Lisp a functional language < 1336905451 844884 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't take this too seriously < 1336905465 688825 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was joking and you think i'm serious < 1336905484 852617 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was an obvious joke, i mean "lisp is functional" come on < 1336905501 372908 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now upvote that comment and the post it links to kmc < 1336905505 775506 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz < 1336905514 672117 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway HN may be written in Arc but it's full of startup weenies who think ruby and node.js coffeescript are beautiful awesome ninja hacker software < 1336905525 989312 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point i'm really embarassed to be associated with "hacker" culture < 1336905529 619430 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that makes me a bitter elitist < 1336905538 827184 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: i don't have a HN account < 1336905556 258451 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you < 1336905582 598439 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you know < 1336905583 945198 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336905586 890486 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__ < 1336905591 862357 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :98% of everything is shit < 1336905604 932414 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if you take the remaining 2% then 98% of that is shit < 1336905614 972673 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336905616 868953 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractal shit < 1336905619 967804 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's shit all the way down < 1336905628 945898 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go < 1336905634 315254 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm thinking, it applies to hackers too < 1336905638 578396 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Lisp is a cool book though < 1336905640 469775 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what we have to work with < 1336905655 120380 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just hide in your shell and wait for the (shit)storm to pass < 1336905658 28845 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will never pass < 1336905660 728086 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the way it is < 1336905681 701081 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-130-117.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336905688 131847 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ignore it's there, and avoid everything where you think there's that 98% of shit < 1336905690 235849 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really < 1336905708 440133 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't see the 98% in something then you just aren't good enough at that thing to appreciate good quality < 1336905728 182164 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :example: you still haven't gotten put off on electronics < 1336905733 764193 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you keep at it, you surely will < 1336905758 571818 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm thinking, it's much better to display enough creativity to actually make something out of all that, you know, shit < 1336905765 66047 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's 98% of the natural resource. < 1336905772 367886 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's the smart way to go, make something out of nothing. < 1336905784 403245 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow CNN has articles about brogrammers now < 1336905789 571505 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they < 1336905790 90374 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :url < 1336905794 463038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1336905803 131050 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/07/tech/web/brogrammers/index.html < 1336905806 853025 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: i'm not put off making stuff < 1336905811 305264 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put off "hacker culture" < 1336905822 176973 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of spending my time reading HN, i make stuff < 1336905841 469755 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've just learnt that it's crap, that's all < 1336905848 336390 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-234-132.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336905858 416999 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not really an earth shattering realization once you realize that 98% of everything is crap < 1336905885 578614 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm almost pleased about the fact that Mosh uses such un-sexy tools < 1336905893 712584 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ and Automake and fucking unix terminal subsystem < 1336905897 141467 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-126-5.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336905909 877344 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it really should be in a memory-safe langauge < 1336905996 424996 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should it < 1336906008 287329 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't you make it in python and twisted and coffeescript < 1336906013 121493 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you suck < 1336906017 203666 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not a hacker < 1336906026 27755 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:D) < 1336906030 291756 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-130-117.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336906088 508202 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know right < 1336906120 369984 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it uses a network protocol that isn't HTTP based < 1336906129 374464 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, i'm wondering about python's increasing notoriety as a "systems language" < 1336906134 583157 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pretty much marks us as dinosaurs right < 1336906147 631831 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really does feel like it's replacing the C/C++/Cobol/Perl hydra < 1336906153 419418 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 40 years all protocols below HTTP will be forgotton < 1336906161 828566 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have already < 1336906164 960280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume kmc is joking < 1336906165 995000 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what's a port" < 1336906175 782274 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what do you mean the port is not 80" < 1336906181 410870 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we'll be reimplementing TCP and UDP poorly over HTTP < 1336906185 228516 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how can you have a port that's not 80" < 1336906189 913772 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, exactly < 1336906197 803469 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the fucking amazing part about hackers nowadays < 1336906211 319043 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :reimplement shit on top of exactly the same shit fifty layers down < 1336906251 90239 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend was at a café and someone saw code on his screen and asked him what he does for a living < 1336906262 817651 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm a kernel programmer, it's the very core of the operating system" < 1336906271 192930 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh, so, like not even the Drupal layer? even lower than that?" < 1336906276 648197 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1336906312 961805 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is really a sign of progress though < 1336906319 915270 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's unpalatable to eleet ninja hackers < 1336906355 423094 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our abstractions are good enough that people can build worthwhile things without knowing every single irrelevant detail of the hardware and operating system < 1336906393 474184 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahhaha < 1336906396 632737 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drupal Layer < 1336906396 805623 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some fallacy that we could make all current programmers learn assembly language and CPU architecture < 1336906406 20447 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when really a lot of people would just give up on programming then < 1336906422 409721 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drupal Layer is the new ISO OSI Layer 0 < 1336906426 545165 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336906427 927156 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :amirite < 1336906429 284850 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336906605 42080 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-224-219.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336906700 127919 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scpd.stanford.edu/knuth/index.jsp < 1336906703 610394 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :here you go kmc < 1336906732 316802 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-126-5.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336906880 747954 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-131-132.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336906940 218746 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-224-219.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336906973 890582 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: http://a841-tfpweb.nyc.gov/bikeshare/files/2012/05/Schaefer-Landing.jpg < 1336906976 934262 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you love this map < 1336907089 488216 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336907256 225798 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1336907280 670435 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they might be using the wrong metric < 1336907322 373262 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1336907330 189068 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-131-132.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336907331 21912 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be how far you can bike from a given point in n minutes < 1336907335 286135 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that point is on the waterline... < 1336907364 461173 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-226-197.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336907377 45654 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you have to bike east to the edge of their "5 min" circle just to get on the bridge to go west < 1336907477 782583 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-121-23.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336907624 681381 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it matter < 1336907631 357483 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obviously a crude representation < 1336907642 164207 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-226-197.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336907647 792567 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you expect it to be autism-compatible < 1336907650 938256 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336907667 330290 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336907704 654647 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1336907724 796918 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1336907736 363799 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: the circle maps are always crude approximations but this one is beyond ridiculous < 1336907753 23759 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it really < 1336907755 880324 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336907762 383758 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the center of the circle were just a little bit further < 1336907765 159761 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it understates the time to bike to many points by at least a factor of 2 < 1336907765 371398 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere on land < 1336907775 659524 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor of 2 is not that much < 1336907784 150648 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only one order of magnitude in binary < 1336907788 511435 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol cheater__ < 1336907801 374634 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyone who cares about correctness within an order of magnitude is mentally ill < 1336907814 584478 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like you'll expect to go for a 10 minute ride and end up commuting for a whole day < 1336907820 823324 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kmc < 1336907825 673491 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just you < 1336907830 815375 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not anyone < 1336907831 502990 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336907844 261115 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1336907851 496148 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they just had the east half of each circle that would be ok < 1336907905 654029 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but e.g. they imply you can get from Schaefer Landing to DUMBO in 10 minutes < 1336907923 49200 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by biking across the water and the navy yard < 1336907931 921262 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am dismayed at the fact that no european universities do an OCW kind of thing < 1336907941 351930 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intersection of that circle with the route you'd actually take is less than halfway < 1336907979 10833 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you obsessing over this < 1336907986 92541 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to annoy you cheater__ < 1336907992 333572 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you been watching some sort of commuter-version of requiem for a dream < 1336908005 997327 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't annoy me < 1336908009 845920 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just makes me wonder < 1336908028 318914 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1336908043 462543 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :better tell me if you know of any european unis that have online courses available < 1336908046 84839 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :free ones < 1336908152 350531 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know of any < 1336908179 833113 :swilde!~wilde@2001:470:9c7c:abc:847d:d7ff:fe83:e9fc JOIN :#esoteric < 1336908223 975441 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your language says a lot cheater__ < 1336908234 639152 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you assume i bring up this map because i am "obsessing" < 1336908242 128685 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it is just a momentary diversion < 1336908245 804129 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that says more about u than about me < 1336908383 607930 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOS: cheater__ ? < 1336908391 156703 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: FOS? < 1336908398 575226 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm a bit Mafia obsessed lately < 1336908406 61857 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finger of Suspicion < 1336908418 969621 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm awful at mafia < 1336908422 290473 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1336908440 918123 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, you're officially better than the people in #wolfgame < 1336908449 707307 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__, he thinks you are one of the people who kill a townsperson at night-time < 1336908487 719955 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, as a townie, was once lynched at lylo for checking stats at daybreak < 1336908495 996589 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1336908617 740136 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh < 1336908678 169808 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, pop-quiz: Should the town, during the day, if there's nothing in particular to talk about: < 1336908691 843738 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) Talk, in an attempt to root out mafia, or < 1336908694 171328 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b) Not talk. < 1336908699 658291 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd go for a < 1336908710 776944 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're smarter than #wolfgame, good job < 1336908725 586880 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I suck at talking, and when I do talk, everyone thinks I'm mafioso < 1336908733 90240 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336908870 600344 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1336908880 354267 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german universities really suck at online courses < 1336908891 863 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the british Open University that does it < 1336908893 261708 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ParisTech < 1336908904 967304 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the next nearest thing to europe is in australia, or something. < 1336908920 207313 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you even get a japanese uni. < 1336908963 808804 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japan's closer to Europe than Australia? < 1336908971 617622 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you mean culturally? < 1336908980 657112 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or linguistically, I guess < 1336909003 521202 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean as in "the closest thing to europe other than europe or usa" < 1336909013 67129 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-117-34.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336909017 134749 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just trying to display how far behind europe is in that regard < 1336909046 523272 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, close as in close in the rankings < 1336909074 1428 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336909076 761408 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :geographically < 1336909146 55827 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey have you seen this https://gist.github.com/701213 < 1336909153 324795 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lessons learned from #python" < 1336909202 38184 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-121-23.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336909275 886569 :swilde!~wilde@2001:470:9c7c:abc:847d:d7ff:fe83:e9fc PART #esoteric :"ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" < 1336909526 855544 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does GPL apply to a file format? < 1336909709 788246 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gpl is a copyright based license < 1336909719 913679 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a format is not data, it is metadata < 1336909728 102786 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only copyright data, not metadata < 1336909756 146554 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it also means that you can change the format and you're still under the same copyright < 1336909769 659647 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why mp3 files are copyrighted because people have copyright over the source cds < 1336909841 954145 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm free to write a program that saves to a format, the specifications of which are in the form of an XML DTD which explicitly mentions that it is licensed under GPL, and release my program under any license I like? < 1336909938 15484 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, nevermind < 1336910327 742471 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: interesting < 1336910334 126978 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my short time in #python i noticed these problems too < 1336910339 163476 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone has < 1336910345 205773 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :those trolls are legendary < 1336910351 714402 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting banned from #python = badge of honor < 1336910441 454046 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc, EvilTerran on Hackernews says "ShQQ looks very nice" < 1336910445 109998 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it would be pertinent < 1336910449 326479 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336910466 448160 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll livestream all comments to your ephemeral consciousness < 1336910473 529151 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :livetweeting to your cortex < 1336910495 236539 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :git pushing into your noggin with --force < 1336910500 860834 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336910550 530429 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reallyUnsafe < 1336910591 37063 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the --force-luke. < 1336910607 714623 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :git push --force ssh://localhost/dev/brain < 1336910618 9369 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336910632 868599 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this user's host has closed the connection < 1336910683 956604 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-117-34.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336910687 334402 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's better to use ``git push --force file:///dev/brain'' < 1336910909 237087 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just /dev/brain < 1336910914 77241 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often use "git push ." < 1336911260 558298 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336911326 990357 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Gato_enervado_pola_presencia_dun_can.jpg < 1336911570 922115 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you use git push . ? < 1336911852 181501 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to update a ref in the local repository < 1336912030 222469 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me sir but what does that do < 1336912181 898752 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i want to change which commit a particular branch points to < 1336912188 212914 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without checking out that branch < 1336912197 89225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :git push . is a fine way to do it < 1336912211 258144 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other ways < 1336912211 774488 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd use git branch -f for that < 1336912244 734739 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336912282 11280 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably handles the case where the ref doesn't exist better < 1336912445 703311 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the chinese OCW doesn't even have a fuckin domain < 1336912451 556951 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an ip address < 1336912455 519581 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the port is 8080 < 1336912456 828956 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336912497 429230 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336912501 226420 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336912522 284126 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCW? < 1336912558 916693 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :open course ware < 1336912579 128112 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336912814 213822 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336912822 260290 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1336912935 745153 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.122 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336913135 953280 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1336913140 743405 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cheater__ < 1336913144 577475 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up < 1336913164 346025 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lot < 1336913223 863584 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am just currently being mindblown by the fact that the first digit of my weight in kilograms in decimal at sea level earth gravitation is about to drop by 1 < 1336913261 875456 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336913387 306556 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: do you mean your mass in kilograms or you weight in newtons? < 1336913418 965021 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: in before cheater__ accuses you of having an autism spectrum disorder < 1336913505 299498 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: good catch, i keep forgetting that weight is a force < 1336913518 497041 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: dude stop it with your autism < 1336913524 437482 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:D) < 1336913580 482293 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm browsing this blog with online video lectures and i notice a lecture by Spolsky < 1336913582 550729 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think < 1336913584 558062 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why would he think I have autims spectrum disorder < 1336913588 55309 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck let that guy teach at a university < 1336913594 11078 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :really frightening moment < 1336913599 649619 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i look again and it's like.. Saplosky < 1336913600 208704 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some other spolsky i hope < 1336913603 578566 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good lol < 1336913606 233935 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336913609 760035 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: only autists know about the difference between mass and weight < 1336913618 174124 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any other matter of correctness < 1336913629 594429 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: autist. < 1336913641 579585 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :autofellatio < 1336913646 66122 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :autoautist < 1336913650 425298 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :autistfellatio? < 1336913663 896845 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to know < 1336913714 699278 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: i streamlined my blogpost writing workflow by using inotifywait to run pandoc when i save the markdown file < 1336913719 890392 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a lifehack for sure < 1336913838 290082 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: pandoc gives you html yes? < 1336913843 472103 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336913853 136171 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can output many formats, but i'm doing markdown → html < 1336913866 985737 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm thinking i should set up a build system for my blog, so that i can jump ship from posterous any time < 1336913883 995636 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i can set up a blog and have all the posts up in just one command, that's gotta be worth something < 1336913891 934443 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336913896 288231 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine isn't quite that slick < 1336913913 629493 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be cool to use jekyll or hakyll or something < 1336913932 454371 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just mean, something that uploads to posterous in one go < 1336913939 778004 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when the time comes, have it upload to some other thing < 1336913947 91540 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like blogspot or whatever < 1336913949 536036 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :blogstain < 1336914082 215292 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336914095 382760 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with those progs i mentioned, you get just a static file tree < 1336914097 966487 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can use any web host < 1336914342 718591 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please give me Coke. http://youtu.be/VuAXoSnp14M?t=13m36s < 1336914389 734437 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't want to use a web host because web hosts are not free < 1336914448 971357 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1336914506 159214 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hilarious A+++++++ would watch again < 1336914836 537113 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. LAME says that encoding will take aproximately 23 hours and 10 minutes -.-' < 1336914850 667207 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The encoding of what? < 1336914893 219441 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: sound file from wav to mp3 < 1336914903 287552 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The encoding of what sound file? < 1336914966 470765 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: audio of brain scratch comms Q&A video ripped to 2.3GB wav file < 1336914991 807082 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1336914996 87072 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. now it is only 23 hours < 1336915041 366224 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it a 2.3 gb wav file? < 1336915049 705668 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that's way too much. < 1336915061 173601 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, you're probably better off transcoding speech to flac < 1336915069 259662 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because mp3 really mutilates it and makes it SUPER annoying < 1336915174 598431 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: video is 3 hours and 55 minutes long. I ripped the audio with ffmpeg using ffmpeg -i bscqa.mp3 bscqa.wav < 1336915391 649865 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1336915391 997396 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. I got response from European Parliament to my question about law making possession of hacking tools illegal < 1336915400 359415 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 hours is way too much. < 1336915403 50800 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as gcc? < 1336915405 448394 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: what did they say? < 1336915418 189545 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: another reason to use clang amirite < 1336915425 437434 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: they can't say what is hacking tool < 1336915454 34273 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: remember I am using computer with 700MHz Pentium III < 1336915480 711215 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still sounds too long. < 1336915506 784078 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1336915522 685200 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: oh, so you don't have sse. you've really fucked yourself over there < 1336915532 60422 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you using such an antique piece of technology? < 1336915532 570697 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: now it says 22h 30min < 1336915543 499199 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: by iBook G4 broke < 1336915551 153061 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/by/my < 1336915553 560617 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My 66 MHz Amiga can’t encode MP3 in realtime, but most things faster than that should be able to do that. :-P < 1336915553 926313 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+/ < 1336915561 254018 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :g4 is still antique < 1336915598 733197 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: is is not < 1336915637 186284 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: it isn't even 10 years old < 1336915647 581862 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-136-148.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336915650 474161 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: if the source is mp3, why are you encoding anything at all? < 1336915658 977120 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: source is wav < 1336915690 980107 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see a very big sexist bias in this list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_people#Ten_verified_oldest_people_living < 1336915709 772298 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: "I ripped the audio with ffmpeg using ffmpeg -i bscqa.mp3 bscqa.wav"? < 1336915722 95224 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I mean bcsqa.mp4 < 1336915797 871685 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I used youtube-dl to download bscqa.mp4, ffmpeg to rip it's audio and lame to convert audio to something that is not completely ridicilous in size < 1336915798 3102 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336915814 99380 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336915817 725394 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti < 1336915821 879345 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the original url of that thing < 1336915829 650273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what codec is the original audio track? that's probably something fairly standard < 1336915847 537887 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mp4 is often aac isn't it < 1336915863 228033 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bscqa.mp4 almost certainly contains compressed audio, why not just extract it and use it as-is? < 1336915883 769404 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I don't know ho to do that < 1336915918 431459 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do something like mplayer -dumpaudio < 1336915943 134713 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah recompressing is usually a bad idea anyways < 1336915951 129005 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: so why are you exporting the audio again? < 1336916032 673430 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: I download bscqa.mp4, rip audio from it to bscqa.wav and encode bscqa.wav to mp3. I don't see where I am exporting the audio again < 1336916065 455195 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"again" is a matter of speech < 1336916073 342422 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me why you are exporting the audio < 1336916078 163789 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mediafire.com/?d94ngt9iuqmd4sd < 1336916199 121300 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what is that? < 1336916257 138140 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mediafire requires javascript so I don't know what is behind that link) < 1336916337 404599 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“BrainScratchComms Q&A Responses!.mp3” < 1336916349 86170 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: I am exporting audio because their .mp3 file is hosted on megaupload < 1336916364 521122 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: well I can't download it < 1336916398 899445 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Pentium III can’t run a browser that supports JavaScript? < 1336916432 789825 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it can but hv3 crashes when trying to parse the mess on that page < 1336916452 87124 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then try another one. < 1336916454 277777 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336916496 961825 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hv3 is the only one running at speed that is acceptable < 1336916522 505693 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: well it and links2 with -enable-javascript but that is a joke < 1336916544 685477 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that thing < 1336916604 158052 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :try uh < 1336916604 848618 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dropbox? < 1336916634 795973 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4536.html < 1336916645 871110 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^best argumentation strategy < 1336916650 388691 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: how do I download file from mediafire using dropbox? < 1336916672 112531 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: that was for ion really < 1336916679 528941 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you download from dropbox using dropbox? < 1336916715 740040 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: yes. I had to install Xvesa for it to work though < 1336916730 296605 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/I had/I'd have/ < 1336916780 75464 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: oh you meant from dl.dropbox.com? yes I can even with links < 1336916825 944344 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336916833 288585 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion try uploading to dropbox if u want to < 1336916954 278194 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336917209 568954 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-225-62.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336917391 380961 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-136-148.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336917488 226072 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sensors detect no signs of life." *beam down* *surrounded by trees* < 1336917515 377697 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one was that < 1336917522 568926 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can vaguely recollect < 1336917608 570359 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc do you know of rexcurry.net < 1336917925 795441 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: I don’t have the file. < 1336917956 867275 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: oh i thought you uploaded it for him < 1336917962 218378 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways i gotta go to the gym, ttyl < 1336917967 423244 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it was just linked from the video comments. < 1336918214 46469 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. LAME stopped at 20 hours and 6 minutes < 1336918697 169153 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't get your hopes up < 1336918716 190456 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently, my gmail has 455 filters < 1336918730 65379 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :around 450 of those filters are to folderize recruiter spam < 1336918751 924671 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank DOG for the ability to export and import filters in gfail < 1336918913 556499 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sassy < 1336918916 319617 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gfail < 1336918928 833134 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :micro$haft winbloze < 1336918944 259407 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :facecock < 1336919076 655142 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHA < 1336919123 130802 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with olsner that you should dump the encoded audio out of the mp4 file < 1336919128 510569 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you need mp3 specifically < 1336919204 629935 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah. I remeber that next time when I have to do that < 1336919324 783734 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lame finished encoding when it said it still had over 20 hours left < 1336919333 269599 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :km¢ < 1336919364 381806 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cent sign is representative of the described object's perceived value < 1336919367 244707 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-225-62.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336919391 283334 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: oh it finished? ok < 1336919409 353813 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i thought you meant it just stopped predicting at 20 hours, and continued to predict it'll take another 20 hours. < 1336919429 3653 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :₭₥₵ < 1336919462 795324 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\zalgo{kmc} < 1336919475 526175 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha someone should really make a zalgo function for LaTeX < 1336919476 547383 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has someone actually implemented \zalgo{}? < 1336919479 826900 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336919486 533438 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish they would < 1336919491 864896 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be the ultimate thing ever < 1336919510 437238 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevant: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/29402/how-do-i-make-my-document-look-like-it-was-written-by-a-cthulhu-worshipping-madm < 1336919523 357670 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chuckles < 1336919567 518544 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Googling "crazy latex" did not return what I expected." < 1336919589 792020 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"scrawled by a gibbering madman, unhinged by the horrors he has witnessed" < 1336919783 333331 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like ShQQ < 1336919893 824419 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336920009 160241 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap < 1336920037 791643 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :got u there didn't i < 1336920040 770758 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336920162 200105 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the horrors i have witnessed < 1336920304 14096 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336920578 749072 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :#php < 1336920608 808767 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336920636 229391 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never been to #php < 1336920658 642564 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336921708 695565 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336921761 893317 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336922262 187807 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336922798 281388 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336923696 824930 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1336923696 957394 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1336923725 999560 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336923741 989604 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336925172 705017 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-226-166.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336925212 865113 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-226-166.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336925370 501076 :kvsolga!5c190a73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.25.10.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336925419 503315 :xander_!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336925445 573121 :xander_!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 NICK :Guest7797 < 1336925453 997249 :Guest7797!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336925475 144707 :kvsolga!5c190a73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.25.10.115 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336926325 550428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336926561 148497 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336926674 428528 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART :#esoteric < 1336928648 984144 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lies, one time i told you to go there because funny shit was going down < 1336928652 431443 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you joined in < 1336928806 272416 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336929007 343308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336929075 975194 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i < 1336929080 502977 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what funny shit went down < 1336929418 894223 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: postun < 1336929790 564317 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1336929890 772459 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of funny shit going down < 1336929911 946787 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :guy in ##electronics joins in, asks if we know how to scan rfid in credit cards and personal id's < 1336929926 817239 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :asked why he needs this, he says there's some guy stealing from him periodically < 1336929950 235694 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, he leaves behind expensive stuff (in the city at that, not suburbia) standing around in front of the garage or in the car < 1336929956 384683 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's lost thousands of dollars < 1336929959 665080 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :installed some cameras < 1336929973 365749 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he can't get an ID because it's usually dark at night < 1336929990 90322 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he figures, he saw some guys at defcon scan credit cards at a distance < 1336930001 391482 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he figures the thief must have a credit card on him < 1336930006 421147 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now he's trying to figure out how to do it < 1336930011 684421 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :first world problem < 1336930023 748860 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :low tech solution: don't leave your shit for people to steal < 1336930066 411726 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: tip for nuggets, a drop of green tabasco and a dash of lime juice is all they need to taste better < 1336930349 682888 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336930351 927432 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabasco is great < 1336930376 133360 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use it too often < 1336930387 924562 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use it all the damn time < 1336930393 173043 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's good used every now and then in moderation < 1336930398 385501 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your mouth like a kiln < 1336930400 156365 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336930406 766876 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your tongue all lacerated < 1336930416 988656 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like spicy food and i like vinegar taste < 1336930506 486081 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like woucester sauce < 1336930512 432371 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s a bit too vinegary for my taste. < 1336930516 206520 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so, but i don't have it often enough to say for sure < 1336930518 196260 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tabasco, that is. < 1336930519 653963 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabasco or WS < 1336930531 286422 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vinegar, tabasco, and sriracha are some of my favorite seasonings < 1336930537 845545 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how do you pronounce it, wor-chest-er or wooster? < 1336930564 256622 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d like to taste sriracha, but i haven’t found any yet. < 1336930567 901997 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i know is named Worcestershire sauce < 1336930571 706732 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336930574 796793 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pronounce wus-ter-sher < 1336930581 460681 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking brits am i rite < 1336930586 147235 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep on arguing with people here < 1336930592 566787 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :who all pronounce it incorrectly < 1336930598 150801 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they look at me like i'm fucking stupid < 1336930701 958991 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a stupid pronunciation even if it's "correct" < 1336930978 412761 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wfm < 1336931011 546277 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i think people should know what's "correct" but should feel free to ignore it for sanity or consistency < 1336931022 706107 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you can't appreciate real historical value living in a country halfway predated by the house i live in < 1336931030 300813 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336931062 494411 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1336931222 941556 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the american history is so recent i'm surprised it hasn't been televised from the very beginning < 1336931243 150030 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336931276 399312 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the flip side is that our history is way more important and everything else is irrelevant < 1336931287 739646 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact glorious leader george w. bush has brought about the end of history < 1336931308 392460 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336931314 144543 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, kmc < 1336931316 779498 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the revolution < 1336931318 851153 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :will not < 1336931321 851006 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :be televised < 1336931338 637285 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit i wasn't wrong < 1336931339 680546 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be livetumblr'd < 1336931351 515739 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :my house actually IS about 50% the age of your country < 1336931362 479589 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :usa is what < 1336931370 813056 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :223 years old? < 1336931395 292766 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :229 years old < 1336931403 949533 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :my house is 113 years old < 1336931408 439730 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly there < 1336931420 571981 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 more years < 1336931430 798125 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha fuckin' a. < 1336931433 771642 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little older than that depending on how you count < 1336931465 417936 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah like 238 years max < 1336931481 746247 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we count starting the time other people stopped calling your ramshacks a colony < 1336931493 156993 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1336931565 336730 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Remember back when Wireshark was called Ethereal? < 1336931575 768295 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to install it in Ubuntu but I was having problems. < 1336931579 65437 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were the days, shachaf < 1336931590 872294 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I searched for «ethereal universe». < 1336931592 777499 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ol' ethereal. < 1336931601 291136 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336931681 196477 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc you know what's really hot < 1336931687 302633 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olive oil with pepper in it < 1336931691 857340 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds p. good < 1336931702 78723 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :T KMC WHAT < 1336931745 605359 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever tried any of that stuff < 1336931757 667614 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really nice and hot < 1336931770 737587 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't feel the heat until you're done chewing and it goes down your throat < 1336931842 112831 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336931848 162328 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336932040 162332 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336932091 457837 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1336932183 504707 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336932322 724112 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336932585 442209 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336932604 629572 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336932821 617924 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: dinner < 1336932954 245816 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc do you like asian food http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/chineseposters/images/1200/DSC_4023.jpg < 1336933005 437588 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336933032 615330 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm having trouble decoding this one < 1336933052 4249 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the first one says that if I don't wash my hands after taking a shit, I will get sick < 1336933086 123857 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ways of killing flies < 1336933587 17504 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know chinese < 1336933598 641861 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's some chinese porn for you http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/chineseposters/images/1200/DSC_4053.jpg < 1336933706 295233 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know chinese < 1336933710 276436 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks < 1336933723 200877 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336933763 839256 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks to have diarrhea and vomitosis at the same time < 1336933766 954918 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok guess what this one is http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/chineseposters/images/1200/DSC_4082.jpg < 1336933777 488850 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aids? < 1336933780 425449 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336933782 884649 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :near < 1336933788 281849 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :herpes? < 1336933817 201755 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, no. < 1336933823 418917 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking edit distance. < 1336933823 767979 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :swine flu < 1336933827 398485 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :declaration of war on SARS < 1336933828 487205 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sars? < 1336933829 352433 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1336933831 103659 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sars ~ aids < 1336933839 318370 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur so clever kmc < 1336933844 555911 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the grumpy little fellows are < 1336933845 250042 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS_coronavirus < 1336933847 584822 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you almost guessed quicker than i told you < 1336933863 93923 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone happen to know of any good papers about techniques for prevention of distributed denial of service attacks? < 1336933878 956842 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336933895 536545 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because mostly it's a big business that people don't share their techniques in < 1336933913 392632 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely, there must be some papers? < 1336933916 199317 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lol @ "grumpy little fellows" < 1336933948 876714 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: meh < 1336934030 423354 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: have you read http://www.vice.com/read/life-is-a-cosmic-giggle-803-v18n5 < 1336934040 473930 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/chineseposters/images/1200/DSC_4057.jpg < 1336934058 336644 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :more http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/chineseposters/index.html < 1336934078 797456 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is that the one about the junkie girl < 1336934092 55992 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i know what you'd post < 1336934094 819074 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, kmc. < 1336934124 883102 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a look at that jpg i just posted, but not before you drop some acid and put on your stoner goggles < 1336934167 987714 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thx < 1336934215 603630 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :As your attorney, I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top. And you'll need the cocaine. Tape recorder for special music. Acapulco shirts. < 1336934396 421677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336934813 487330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336934878 752725 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: r u unhappy b/cuz i stereotyped u < 1336934884 378645 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336934886 897159 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not unhappy < 1336934904 918977 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I read that article! < 1336934947 528785 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool shachaf < 1336934971 854108 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was mostly when you posted it in the other channel a few minutes ago. < 1336934979 128037 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336935002 346886 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you posted it like last year < 1336935003 394319 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so < 1336935097 819658 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ago < 1336935306 343113 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336935388 516912 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, the renamer script for vim is a lifesaver < 1336935417 983332 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :== kmc in the other channel. < 1336935426 6730 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I typically try not to get involved in this argument. < 1336935543 485371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 TOPIC #esoteric :SPOILER ALERT: You die in the end | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1336935567 32325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU HAVE NO PROOF OF THAT < 1336935603 31577 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I peeked at the end of the book and I'm still alive. < 1336935704 191690 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336935706 566583 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336935766 814623 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb < 1336936282 490999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, you looked at the wrong page. The correct book is the one with poison on the end, therefore it will kill you too < 1336936628 48169 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57411977-1/the-black-hole-los-alamos-lab-surplus-store-surprises/ < 1336936720 103027 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :experienced this so often: http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4528.html < 1336936810 267425 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336937188 527853 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4513.html < 1336937337 29450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: You forgot!!!! Oops try again please < 1336938381 697814 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336938664 433977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-137.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336938670 617232 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336938807 281664 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-75-242.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336938927 665971 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336939846 724867 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336940058 679202 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although left-handed people make up only 10 percent of the population as a whole, they compose a full 20 percent of schizophrenics. Is it because all those right-handed can openers slowly drive them mad? Possibly. " < 1336940252 602128 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-64-49.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336940287 978232 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336940293 91124 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-75-242.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336940550 650964 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-64-49.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336940636 705882 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That's right: Ovoviviparous sharks eat each other in the womb. Particularly nurse sharks, which just proves that science loves irony." < 1336940772 545319 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-231-107.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336940777 749666 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336941278 285980 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336941720 511090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336942709 493500 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard computing problem: is it possible to have a computable program that 1) computes any non-halting program given as input and 2) assuming that the program's internal state at time t is P(t), eventually computes P(t) by simulation of itself for all t? < 1336942811 556723 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say that it must eventually output a complete summary of all the actions it did at any given step in its self-simulation, while also producing whatever output the input program would produce. < 1336942828 97664 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be like using gdb to debug gdb < 1336942858 806895 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the underlying gdb was always being used for the same purpose < 1336943093 990906 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea but sounds fun < 1336943579 600390 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336943898 806644 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336944004 560859 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336944055 879014 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :very lulzy trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=ZJkd5X2aG34&NR=1 < 1336944099 517665 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-231-107.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336944100 403191 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-158.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336944306 128572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336944780 527960 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1336944789 856363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:58 < quintopia> hard computing problem: is it possible to have a computable program that 1) computes any non-halting program given as input and 2) assuming that the program's internal state at time t is P(t), eventually computes P(t) by simulation of itself for all t? < 1336944794 860491 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:00 < quintopia> Let's say that it must eventually output a complete summary of all the actions it did at any given step in its self-simulation, while also producing whatever output the input program would produce. < 1336944799 859963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:00 < quintopia> it would be like using gdb to debug gdb < 1336944803 860853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:00 < quintopia> where the underlying gdb was always being used for the same purpose < 1336944848 568453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, hmm, don't want to think about that right now :) < 1336945669 996425 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336945746 106943 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336946219 274775 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1336946252 858305 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1336946259 198130 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's first name is keegan??? < 1336946441 13485 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336947172 256383 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/sX0i5.gif < 1336947365 777411 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336947480 62595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336947524 293739 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336947588 822658 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336947612 660380 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: amazing < 1336947634 817278 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: welcome to 1990 < 1336947770 866099 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336947929 679885 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336948031 5917 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336948036 155293 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336948056 298551 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336949014 741624 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336950130 739594 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok thats funny < 1336950169 437861 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly burn scars for life.. but funny < 1336950425 19069 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336950652 753206 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-158.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: ? < 1336950669 515544 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ ion's link < 1336950697 746507 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-158.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. :) < 1336950985 164928 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The helmet... it does nothing! < 1336951102 141097 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336952029 498427 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336952142 297356 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=r84d-msuyp0#t=32s < 1336952208 114449 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should record that youtube video from their screen using a phone camera and upload that to youtube. < 1336952259 857861 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry this link < 1336952265 171918 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r84d-msuyp0&t=32s < 1336952273 979236 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can ignore the first one < 1336952290 353007 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s the same one. < 1336952302 133855 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i don't like the first url... < 1336952309 352949 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't work right for me < 1336953809 945034 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336953815 981909 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336953816 483256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336954854 478270 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336954908 157475 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336955717 963591 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!topic http://wtpl.heroku.com/ < 1336955916 564872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people say that sports prediction from horoscope works better than personal prediction from horoscope. What is your opinion on these matters? < 1336955956 840639 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 = 0 < 1336955988 267231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: True, but too simple. < 1336956014 848936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am skeptical but can think of two possible reasons which can allow it to work sometimes. < 1336956027 449286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am not counting such things as fluke) < 1336956127 18729 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people say that sports prediction from the variation of latency in pinging google.com works better than personal prediction from that. < 1336956229 977261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two reasons I am think of: (1) psychological effect (such as superstitious people's belief in such things), and (2) lighting conditions (considering house positions on horoscopes). < 1336956245 199735 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336956329 634265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what will you answer to this? (Simply saying it is good or it is bad, is not the good answer; you must critical thinking too) < 1336956747 14202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think the position of the Sun might potentially matter, but the positions of other heavenly bodies are unlikely to be even visible during the game < 1336956776 731526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: True. About lighting conditions, yes it is the Sun which I was refering to. < 1336956817 816152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and directly looking at the time and date would be more direct than going via horoscope < 1336956861 663358 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Sunrise/sunset and so on change for different days and different locations, there are also timezones which are not always same as solar time, and then there is daylight saving time, etc < 1336956871 399406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1336956874 146089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant true local time < 1336956877 336406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not local time from timezone < 1336956885 226265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1336956908 814365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :timezones are only approximations intended to standardise time across a country, so that people a long way from each other can communicate about time < 1336956914 107040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they came about when railways became popular < 1336956926 185489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before then, long-distance communication and travel wasn't fast enough for the time differences to matter < 1336956930 254523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everyone needed to agree on train times < 1336956973 277861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I didn't know that but yes it seem good < 1336956985 463544 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :To predict anything about a game based on the position of the Sun, you’ll certainly need the angle of the playfield relative to the Sun as input as well. < 1336957175 756975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: aren't playfields usually flat? < 1336957182 823624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'd need to know latitude and longitude and altitude < 1336957190 727982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to calculate the angle < 1336957517 605557 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sun will potentially shine more in the eyes of one team than the other, or perhaps illuminate both equally from the side. < 1336957518 700357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may help also to know rules of the game. < 1336957531 551370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yes those are my thoughts too. < 1336957551 933123 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can’t make predictions just based on “horoscopes” that don’t take stuff like that into account. < 1336957619 221475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A horoscope chart will include the houses, showing you the ascendant and midheaven and so on. You need to know the location and the date/time to calculate house positions. < 1336957634 59678 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ linus https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/17#issuecomment-5654674 < 1336957652 551912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you need to take things into account; a raw horoscope chart will simply tell you the positions and aspects. < 1336957894 23041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that is lighting conditions; the Mars and other planets are extremely unlikely to affect such things. But, psychological effect of people believing in superstitious things based on these planets may effect decisions of some superstitious players. < 1336958197 291679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing which can potentially affect lighting conditions is a solar eclipse. There are three objects on the horoscope related to eclipses: the Sun, the Moon, and the North Node. I have heard the story of a king who was frightened to death by a solar eclipse. This is unlikely to happen today, but eclipses can still happen. < 1336958934 480753 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336958943 821959 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i come bearing good news < 1336959148 998866 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well cya < 1336959153 77801 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336959174 285064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no news. < 1336960467 326294 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 < 1336960474 672256 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me all your money, this is a stick-up < 1336960728 118495 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336960967 661497 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336962007 471806 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336962011 129596 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336962517 865258 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336962624 913920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: No < 1336962816 64917 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow :( ok < 1336963427 236885 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336963505 331352 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Phantom_Hoover alive? < 1336964000 671517 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you able to see the video on this site? http://www.intuit.ru/department/mathematics/imathanalysis/14/ < 1336964220 113603 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__, what video < 1336964250 516173 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a video there, do you see one? < 1336964258 131727 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, do I have to unblock flash sitewide for this < 1336964270 838454 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't think so < 1336964274 231039 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't have to < 1336964296 971299 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 sec < 1336964359 104644 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one works right? http://www.intuit.ru/department/mathematics/angeom/1/ < 1336965580 312137 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1336965595 990481 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it should be noted that I do not speak Russian. < 1336968706 139147 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-158.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even Russians speak Russian. < 1336968720 42704 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-158.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Russian is actually Newspeak. < 1336968756 572206 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: thanks < 1336968806 434897 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1336970517 933545 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for checking it < 1336970604 203072 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely this week's higlight: i flame a n00b and he comes back and says he's sorry. < 1336970721 138255 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336970756 797915 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336971342 58996 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336971372 833672 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-158.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336972053 62940 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336972184 916803 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea. "All Sliver creatures have Soulbond and 'As long as this creature is paired with another creature, all slivers have the abilities of each of those creatures.' and 'As long as this creature is paired with another creature, each of those creatures is a sliver in addition to its other types.'" < 1336972189 932581 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it "Assimilating Sliver" < 1336972214 515574 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Borg Sliver < 1336972243 78698 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "Creature - Eldrazi Sliver" :) < 1336972262 876832 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336972263 937863 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just no. < 1336972282 18772 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it'd happen if you played Assimilating Sliver. < 1336972433 515327 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything that results in "All Slivers gain Annihilator anything" is "no" < 1336972443 790652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mistform Ultimus has been screwing up trivia questions for years < 1336972455 98684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as well as the keyword version of its ability that turned up all over the place in Lorwyn) < 1336972538 878559 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: What, and Mirrorweave isn't? < 1336972798 933697 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soulbond? < 1336972815 787746 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Mechanic in Avacyn Restored. < 1336972839 792827 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use t3h googles < 1336972890 627119 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ok < 1336973470 975299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh, that's out already? < 1336973472 55630 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336973475 34703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really following Magic nowadays < 1336973507 907354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, today's daily mtg article is about soulbond's history < 1336973875 486957 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Avacyn Restored was actually a rather good set; might be worth caring about. < 1336973941 444351 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I am going to be upset if they screw up Return to Ravnica... < 1336974069 695874 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336974080 190634 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336974132 561634 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336974257 909280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing Ravnica again? must be running out of ideas :) < 1336974272 414581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did enjoy Ravnica, although Time Spiral is still my favourite block < 1336974322 354438 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either it'll suck or it'll be awesome. I don't see it going in between. < 1336974340 335639 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, yeah, Time Spiral was glorious. < 1336974830 204487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it was unpopular sales-wise, though < 1336974835 752249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to the sets around it < 1336974894 126737 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a dream that satan worshippers and some sort of vampire enthusiasts were holding a joint meeting, and the vampire dudes were reading stories from their vampire bible (presumably written by charlaine harris) < 1336975011 66359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the puzzle games for Magic: the Gathering, and figuring out reactions between existing and possible card texts, and playing in Limited tournaments < 1336975093 655212 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason, the vampire dudes had a crusifix from which they drank blood (and occasionally it was wine) and another crusifix that played scary music. < 1336975223 23207 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, it did come between Ravnica and Lorwyn. < 1336975237 108674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Lorwyn's the reason I stopped playing Magic < 1336975243 175816 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, unfortunately, as a nostalgia set it would have somewhat less general appeal. < 1336975253 992914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I had nothing to be nostalgic about, I started with Ninth Edition < 1336975274 494201 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, Time Spiral was a delightful set, design-wise. < 1336975277 870904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just liked it mechanically < 1336975403 667964 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why did *Lorwyn* make you stop playing Magic? < 1336975416 625436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't like the flavour, didn't like the mechanics, didn't like the focus on creatures < 1336975429 743880 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... Not a big tribal fan? < 1336975444 622265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Slivers, but I don't like tribal for the sake of tribal < 1336975495 164669 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprised it wasn't Shards that did it. (seriously, *six fucking years* of multicolor in Standard?) < 1336975506 802267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shards just persuaded me not to come back :) < 1336975747 497857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the focus on creatures recently has turned me off Magic somewhat < 1336975910 616757 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, you're one of those people that does things like break Tamiyo. :P http://magiccards.info/avr/en/79.html < 1336975939 302539 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1336975951 807653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I was wrong, it was /planeswalkers/ that turned me off Magic < 1336975955 78336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot those existed, bleh < 1336975990 383738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only reason I wasn't raging during Future Sight was that I assumed that Tarmogoyf's flavour text was a joke < 1336975994 317629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which it could have been, quite easily) < 1336976048 736353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, Avacyn Restored is a large? I assumed it was a small set < 1336976050 820282 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it makes you feel better, most planeswalkers are little more than a Lightning Bolt sink. < 1336976058 833877 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it was a weird block-ending large set. < 1336976106 539409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and planeswalkers being a lightning bolt sink ties into why I don't like creatures so much < 1336976127 297029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind simple creatures, but I prefer the creatures to sit there on the battlefield and do, at most, combat tricks < 1336976164 431366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while the players maneouver around them with their instants and sorceries and enchantments trying to give one side the advantage over the other, either by gaining combat advantage with creatures, or directly < 1336976214 719311 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they've been making creatures do more largely in hopes of making tournament decks actually run creatures. < 1336976233 212335 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda-sorta worked. < 1336976252 789480 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the recent Pro Tour winning deck only ran any creatures in sideboard. < 1336976267 113772 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a giant pile of miracle spells and cantrips. < 1336976286 142163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha :) < 1336976298 496685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :purpose of creatures is to stop you dying to red < 1336976328 788879 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UPDATE, UPDATE, give me your answer do < 1336976335 576398 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1336976361 748870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even white or green, arguably, but the strategy's most commonly seen in red < 1336976380 855504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that of just putting down lots of cheap creatures early and overrunning the opponent before they can set up whatever they were going to do) < 1336976397 308212 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Planeswalkers end up having very different feel to me in formats where Doubling Season is legal. < 1336976422 822632 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tamiyo now reads "3{U}{U}: You get an emblem with "You have no maximum hand size" and "Whenever a card is put into your graveyard from anywhere, you may return it to your hand."" < 1336976427 326671 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1336976436 201092 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, do you play MtG online, and if so, where and how? < 1336976445 377955 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I play MtG IRL. < 1336976494 979957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to play it online "officially", you have to pay as much money as it'd cost to get the cards otherwise < 1336976500 515221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: *two emblems :) < 1336976509 849871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know it doesn't work on emblems, but it /should/) < 1336976516 583718 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and thus, no desire on my part to play MtGO < 1336976519 686697 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336976520 886765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1336976523 850926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor mine < 1336976532 985419 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do people like Cockatrice? < 1336976538 987667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the physical cards are actually worth something for the art design, IMO, apart from the game (although not as much as they cost) < 1336976556 590872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to dislike many of the rules in Magic: the Gathering < 1336976575 710540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also prefer Limited format games over Constructed < 1336976740 504923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they need emblems, tribals, state-based effects causing tokens to cease to exist, rule that a land card cannot be played as its other types, etc. There are better ways to write the rules to avoid these things. < 1336976779 247431 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“A lot of people still confuse Austria and Australia, I hope this makes it clear.” https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OE9rTUfHE8k/T6_yazqUw0I/AAAAAAAAA8I/jvMOuw0z_tA/w497-h373/Jda6h.jpg < 1336977344 589818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can make up the new game, based on Magic: the Gathering but with differences, including that you do not have to purchase the cards (you can also print them out or write them out, or play by computer; you don't have to pay). As well as making the standard game Limited instead of Constructed. < 1336977686 155581 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's a reason for the whole purchasing the cards thing: So WotC makes money < 1336978740 853517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I understand. But, we make up new game it is differ, not using the old cards therefore not using old compatibility rules either. Someone can sell cards if they want to but is not required to play game. Or you can write puzzle-game too. But rules are many differences nevertheless. < 1336979837 911517 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Of the tournament formats, Limited is quite a lot better IMO. < 1336979862 770327 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's both more fun and a much better test of skill than Constructed. < 1336979889 342451 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention it completely avoids rich-kid syndrome. < 1336979918 22146 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is by far the worst part of Magic. < 1336979925 803574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually prefer Constructed, especially when I'm beating the world's best decks with ones that I can afford < 1336979949 649638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes with flukes, but it's still amusing < 1336979989 240052 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to do vintage casual constructed (okay, so most of my decks are modern too, because I'm cheap. :P) < 1336980025 769746 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, Magic is at its best in casual play... < 1336980145 255893 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friggin' rarity-directly-mapping-to-usefulness. < 1336980203 75389 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be good business, but it also warps the game into a contest of money. < 1336980604 247696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And that kind of contest about money is one things I dislike about it. And your thing you describe also why Limited is better I agree that Limited is better in that (and other) way. < 1336981487 832794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: rarity mapping to usefulness is partly to accommodate Limited by making drafting first-picks more important < 1336981509 971310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might be more interesting the other way, where cards only useful in Constructed are placed at rare to avoid them impinging on Limited too much < 1336981630 102575 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336981653 386544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I agree with you on that; I do think that setting the rarity of cards in that way might improve the game (it could be partially tried to see what happen, I suppose). < 1336981666 784837 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336981705 641384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with the rarities at the moment is mythic, really < 1336981747 311232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're trying to make exciting cards powerful, but also tend to put exciting cards at mythic (so that getting them is /more/ exciting, and to make booster packs more valuable because people will have to open more of them to get single cards that they can sell on to people who want them) < 1336981811 983261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes these are the many problems with the game, relating to the cards. There are problems with the rules too, but there are also problems with the cards like you are describing. < 1336981905 353094 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Agreed, strongly. Also, I feel like rarity should be more a function of how general a card is. Something like Birds of Paradise should be common, not rare. < 1336981923 238674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: currently specific cards are consistently placed at uncommon < 1336981944 319541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sort-of makes sense for limited, because a specific card can be drafted around < 1336981961 392737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if it's specific and also one of the set's main mechanics < 1336981969 60769 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... General is common or rare, specific is uncommon, and anything "big" is rare, and anything awesome is mythic rare. < 1336982020 760435 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cavern of Souls should not be rare. < 1336982028 425328 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://magiccards.info/avr/en/226.html BTW < 1336982034 566259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about One with Nothing? people hated that being rare < 1336982041 251578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if all rares were like that it wouldn't matter < 1336982063 963460 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a card that nearly every deck wants, it shouldn't be friggin' rare. < 1336982292 531435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :common or uncommon, in your opinion? < 1336982305 803969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably it's narrow, but it's so customizably narrow it fits into most decks < 1336982326 938389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is apparently deliberate; apparently, they needed to nerf Mana Leak due to a mistake in balancing Snapcaster Mage) < 1336982329 973478 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One with Nothing, depends on what the rest of the set's doing. < 1336982344 764393 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cavern of Souls? Common. < 1336982345 327570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you manage to get One with Nothing in your deck for some reason such as drafting and so on, then, if it is in your hand, and then it is useful to you then please play this card. < 1336982409 589021 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's something you'll be happy to play in any deck that happens to weigh towards a single creature type. < 1336982426 314492 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which even in the absence of specific tribal effects, is reasonably common. < 1336982431 802329 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess another example is dual land, which should be common (but putting it at rare is obviously better for revenue) < 1336982451 239226 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dual lands are really good examples of this. < 1336982479 980605 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I am playing with two colors, I want duals out the wazoo. I want to pretend duals are basic lands. < 1336982533 795092 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$100 *mana bases* are a fucking joke. < 1336982539 835510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336982549 369172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my best deck is five-color combo < 1336982557 733792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it basically contains all the dual lands I own < 1336982575 47094 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That *in specific* presents a gigantic barrier to entry for tournaments. < 1336982577 232497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I move them between decks when I need them, obviously, rather than having separate lands for separate decks) < 1336982647 437876 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's plausible that by doing this WotC could make *more* money, actually... < 1336982656 128216 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By having more people play and more people play in tournaments. < 1336982687 893869 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a sneaking suspicion the rarity issues end up driving people off the game. < 1336982709 734780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make Limited the standard game. < 1336982788 206432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :limited is even worse, then you have to buy booster packs every game you play < 1336982853 346731 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And mythics only make it worse, really: I can't realistically play planeswalkers without either paying through the nose for a playset or buying *several boxes*? That's just shitty. < 1336982960 899287 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But Limited is a better game anyways. Perhaps if you can put the cards back in the shuffle and make up random packs at the tournament, do not need to purchase (and print!) new cards every time. < 1336982987 71197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when not worrying about the cost, I prefer Constructed, but perhaps that's more to do with the sort of games I like < 1336983059 962988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer Limited regardless of cost, but you play how you prefer. < 1336983071 724242 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: My preference for limited is almost exclusively due to balance. < 1336983159 890160 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game's balanced around either limited or assuming everyone has $500 a block to blow. < 1336983166 527187 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/block/set/ < 1336983230 90470 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, assuming everyone involved is on an equal financial footing, really. < 1336983246 815294 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black Lotus is balanced if everybody's got one. :P < 1336983329 826620 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336983329 844797 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336983329 845061 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336983341 516607 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89BD9.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336983470 963700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm not convinced; budget decks can often get quite close to the best non-budget decks < 1336983542 269836 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336983594 540373 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://magiccards.info/mbs/en/99.html Deal with that in pauper why don't you. (okay, fine, you need a vintage card pool to make that even slightly feasible to pull out.) < 1336983628 712704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mana leak? < 1336983654 846401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oblivion ring (is that common?)? < 1336983670 390984 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oblivion ring got bumped to uncommon. Because... ? < 1336983682 355301 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a friend who can, with a god hand, drop that sucker turn 2. < 1336983684 958680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was common once, though < 1336983741 488984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I think white has quite a few exilers at common < 1336983758 74572 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tinker, BTW, is obscenity. < 1336983760 607271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, you're probably going to be needing to play blue or white to deal with it at common, though < 1336983797 329161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the trample and indestructibility, missing either would give loads of ours < 1336983798 959320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*outs < 1336983802 297341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Pacifism works < 1336983811 374600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also white, though < 1336983873 967229 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, sol ring + island + tinker = turn 2 Blightsteel. < 1336983883 718277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: My father hit my head on a truck (which was illegally parked), but I have a percussion!! < 1336983926 123714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tinker's banned in just about every format < 1336983934 370627 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there is a reason sol ring and tinker are restricted, though) < 1336983946 862983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a reason force of will is all over the place in formats where they're allowed < 1336983984 130108 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :losing three cards is less bad than losing the game < 1336984019 299415 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$50 card there. < 1336984040 471210 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume you didn't mean force of will?) < 1336984053 149046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have got the wrong name < 1336984057 330149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :counterspell costing pitch two < 1336984068 996888 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess it's similar at least. < 1336984083 53336 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Force of Will is counterspell costing 1 life and exile 1 blue card. < 1336984094 161952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, got the right name, wrong effect < 1336984099 65647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pitch 1 and 1 life is obviously better < 1336984110 485263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so would obviously be used instead < 1336984114 518792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can believe it's $50 < 1336984121 833427 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For "heavily played" no less. < 1336984159 93281 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, recommending counterspells as a solution doesn't help with someone who also thinks counterspells are overpowered. :P < 1336984239 703563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's natural that overpowered things would be necessary to deal with other overpowered things :) < 1336984247 371226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably, it's card draw that's overpowered rather than counterspells < 1336984254 899362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :counterspells don't really work without a draw engine backing them up < 1336984290 8511 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also happen to think that forms of draw effects should be in all colors... < 1336984332 254406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just red and blue? (and red isn't allowed to get card advantage from it unless its hand is empty) < 1336984346 223698 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, not doable without basically rebalancing every single part of the game though. (elves with *card draw*? Holy fuck.) < 1336984349 227904 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1336984365 342942 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am having a nostalgia trip right now < 1336984375 648082 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found a "Sgeo was here" sign I posted in AW in 2002 < 1336984558 379718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336984606 442644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :screb < 1336984611 873366 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No lambdabot :( < 1336984618 355434 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, when I have time, I can play Worms < 1336984625 936994 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can host and I have access to Full Wormage < 1336984645 156284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a chemistry exam this afternoon so I'm not playing games before then. < 1336984707 714943 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336984723 712875 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1336984734 918112 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ok < 1336984744 627961 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck! < 1336986582 128021 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336986665 830413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uhatsearch.appspot.com/prices/Heavy < 1336986667 554624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit. < 1336986677 498231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had no idea the TF2 economy was *this* serious. < 1336986725 77252 :qfr!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf JOIN :#esoteric < 1336986780 726218 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'm not signed in to Steam < 1336986781 929728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess each of those items would require, on average, an investment of 200 to get, so it's not all that surprising. < 1336986786 128559 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1336986802 13144 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, it's a chart of hats with particle effects in TF2. < 1336986809 671034 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1336986820 842779 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cheapest is $37. < 1336986840 474459 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most expensive is $400 and most are over $100l < 1336986931 826896 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even all that uncommon to see people in matches wearing them; I guess the world is just full of Gregors. < 1336986974 356483 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336987102 609316 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336987836 263605 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have three hats in my "I like wearing these from time to time" collection < 1336987913 669997 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336988114 677235 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336988114 920327 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, no, no, Gregor wears hats IRL. < 1336988128 963257 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world would be a much classier place if the world was full of Gregors. < 1336988131 181964 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but how many of them are on fire? < 1336988146 784086 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also much more vibrant: I swear, his color choices glow. < 1336988157 925262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also no, on account of being classy != pretending to be classy. < 1336988168 741645 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf. reddit's unbearable deluge of 'good sir's. < 1336988212 154049 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'mean hats aren't the source of class? < 1336988418 453749 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1336988621 48989 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit lied to me! < 1336988888 183451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither are monocles, HTH < 1336989115 514186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote The world would be a much classier place if the world was full of Gregors. True, but how many of them are on fire? < 1336989128 63394 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :855) The world would be a much classier place if the world was full of Gregors. True, but how many of them are on fire? < 1336989131 828330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336989133 377247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336989134 861553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336989136 318267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336989137 809162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1336989147 551122 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :150) Never ever use a quote which contains both the words "aloofness" and "gel" (verb). < 1336989152 444739 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :131) reading playboy for the articles actually seems plausible nowadays after all, there's porn all over the internet, why would you /pay/ for it < 1336989166 934963 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :5) GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. < 1336989169 164582 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :168) Doing logs with dc is probably indicative of something in the DSM. < 1336989170 748070 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :428) oerjan, little do you realise that everything you say and do is part of that great monad tutorial we call life. < 1336989192 363075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get 150 or 168, although 168 is less funny if you don't get it < 1336989194 465144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :opinions? < 1336989221 63863 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :168 I'd say is the worst < 1336989229 921052 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 150 is funny due to its absurdity < 1336989235 480541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 168 < 1336989238 224747 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Doing logs with dc is probably indicative of something in the DSM. < 1336989240 471628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're in agreement, I think < 1336989250 739879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and elliott isn't here so he can't tell us why we're wrong < 1336990021 55423 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336990049 648931 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336990166 11352 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-120-81.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336990208 749577 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-120-81.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336990353 777329 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336990519 674119 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336990684 402268 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336991864 348866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336992822 519548 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89BD9.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336992987 403546 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336993009 267176 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello everybody < 1336993088 599884 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13121F.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336993255 617283 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336993878 176971 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336994787 321340 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336995025 159551 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336995025 177702 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1336995025 177905 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1336995236 339227 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336995797 834754 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336995798 186135 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336995803 159313 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.147 QUIT :Changing host < 1336995803 177892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336995875 816852 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cheater__ < 1336995879 356873 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's tricks < 1336995912 265302 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336995915 272059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1336995917 510761 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336995936 571235 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13121F.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1336996183 771529 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1336996202 441319 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336996362 16270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it's weird having an argument with someone on reddit where there are a bunch of people upvoting all your comments and downvoting all the comments of the person you're arguing with < 1336996364 603494 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336996380 259185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange having internet arguments and being proved right that quickly < 1336996483 50369 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: o hi < 1336996492 390703 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just made some fish dish < 1336996494 838871 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pish tosh < 1336996557 394670 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of fish < 1336996736 850736 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :alaska salmon < 1336996738 573996 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing fancy < 1336996744 857137 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mechanically separated < 1336996758 653908 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was on promotion (is that what you say?) < 1336996804 711924 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried some fancy spices today < 1336996866 865297 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :atlantic grain salt with a grinder, lime juice (again), lemon peppa, galgant, and a nice 3 pepper mix < 1336996870 174880 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all at once < 1336996903 992679 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did salt on all, then tried lemon peppa several times with and without galgant, and then tried the pepper. < 1336996910 928608 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemon peppa is very spicy. < 1336996920 299768 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expected it to be more.. lemony. < 1336996934 592669 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also orange-flavour olive oil < 1336996940 632325 :qfr!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf QUIT :Changing host < 1336996940 650498 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw JOIN :#esoteric < 1336996941 839556 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, didn't know that's a thing < 1336996942 492930 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is fun because it smells so nice < 1336996948 351999 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1336996951 795253 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :galgant or lemon peppa? < 1336996968 341041 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orange-flavour olive oil < 1336996971 124343 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1336996978 384274 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah you get lots of different flavours < 1336996983 242734 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a tip < 1336996992 895672 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemon or vanilla ice cream with lemon olive oil < 1336996999 623286 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :galgant is like ginger right? < 1336997000 689854 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru story < 1336997011 790418 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it's h4wt3r < 1336997017 903234 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's called galangal in english < 1336997031 264380 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1336997040 749491 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have seen that name < 1336997071 205739 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever had any fresh galangal? < 1336997079 350385 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude. that is fucking insane < 1336997086 108197 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never eaten anything spicier < 1336997087 655391 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't < 1336997091 834496 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like < 1336997105 480385 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you take this tiny piece, like 0.5 cm on the side < 1336997112 716997 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you chew on it < 1336997116 204078 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you don't feel anything < 1336997123 218859 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it hits you < 1336997138 327017 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's like, super-concentrated ginger < 1336997148 371327 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you like spicy stuff you gotta try it < 1336997174 976699 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will < 1336997178 251351 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it may only have been the one i've had but the taste was much more bitter < 1336997181 6496 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like they shoved aspirin in it < 1336997183 254160 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an indian grocery down the street < 1336997185 151964 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might have it < 1336997199 375908 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1336997222 75668 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's from southeast asia < 1336997227 767659 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should find a thai grocery, that would be baller < 1336997231 62543 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they speak rike rear indian immiglants < 1336997234 378093 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Polish vodka Zoladkowa Gorzka is flavoured with galanga." < 1336997241 791726 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336997243 717986 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1336997261 73070 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that vodka is actually the secret tip < 1336997263 312180 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1336997265 554004 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The secret recipe includes, among others: wormwood, gentian root, pepper, and galangal." < 1336997272 161637 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like it would taste like satan's own asshole < 1336997281 388341 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for students and shit < 1336997286 751469 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not too expensive but it kicks well and doesn't taste of potatos or any other cheap vodka taste < 1336997304 260224 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of satan's own asshole < 1336997311 993138 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a tip for you for a drink that you'll love < 1336997317 789794 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will love it cause it has tobasco on it < 1336997320 371801 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in < 1336997354 569690 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need vodka, tabasco, and raspberry sirup (the kind you make soft drinks out of, not the one for topping ice cream) < 1336997378 24385 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you take a small shot glass, fill it 1/3 with the sirup < 1336997393 772796 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you fill the rest with vodka slowly so as not to disturb the sirup < 1336997408 638009 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :once that's in you add a drop of tobasco, it hovers nicely in a sphere above the sirup < 1336997410 530654 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks cool < 1336997421 793598 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is said to be really good for parties < 1336997447 165867 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i served it on several birthdays and people loved it < 1336997474 966341 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :u gotta try it < 1336997488 566714 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly with "Polish vodka Zoladkowa Gorzka" < 1336997500 202906 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh in case you're wondering what the name means < 1336997510 569443 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it translates to "stomach vodka, bitter" < 1336997517 377264 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never understood that. < 1336997534 949703 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they make it by fermenting goat stomachs or something. < 1336997541 428797 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not though. < 1336997651 612041 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greater galangal is native to Java. It is widely used in Indonesia and Malaysia as a food flavouring and spice. Lesser galangal is native to China, growing mainly on the southeast coast. It is also grown in India and the rest of South East Asia. Although barely used in Europe today, both galangals were formerly imported in great quantity, as medicine and spice. < 1336997682 463472 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1336997689 528601 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are people who snuff galangal < 1336997691 981766 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i brewed ginger beer a few times < 1336997695 456630 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's gotta be unhealthy < 1336997695 978443 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you could make galangal beer < 1336997700 670028 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you could < 1336997707 86467 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all it's not like real beer is it < 1336997714 238415 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1336997738 224330 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc my next project might be with the yii php web framework < 1336997745 286796 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to pronounce it < 1336997747 181991 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yii" < 1336997775 15496 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just like make a strong ginger tea, put sugar and yeast in, and let it sit a couple of days < 1336997789 649767 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336997800 433625 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually sounds like disgusting shit < 1336997802 329798 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will produce a bit of alcohol but it gets un-tasty before it hits typical beer abv < 1336997815 224912 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could never drink alcohol, it really dejects me < 1336997833 781070 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why yii php < 1336997842 665182 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i can get a job < 1336997845 807662 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i need the money < 1336997859 842376 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll suck dick for nuggets < 1336998040 947537 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everyone has hit it big with ksplorifice like you have kmc < 1336998059 40710 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just a pauper < 1336998172 837788 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of nuggets < 1336998174 42506 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken? < 1336998187 197637 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :any < 1336998190 286662 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :even poop nuggets < 1336998230 173879 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1336998231 379114 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i was thinking of chicken nuggets, yes. < 1336998509 46309 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently the galangal i have had was Greater Galangal < 1336998529 246797 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is orange to brown < 1336998545 147499 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :indians apparently only have lesser galangal, which is red < 1336998561 210740 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :red to reddish brown < 1336998619 549851 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336998647 986175 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336998650 915492 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336998665 593027 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1336998668 303788 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336998672 532916 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hi < 1336998681 637368 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336998709 346960 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336998942 335610 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, american accents are so annoying in movies sometimes < 1336998948 127275 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they shoul like < 1336998959 632190 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :always dub a british english version < 1336999164 464126 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1336999671 90366 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337000889 41485 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337001295 175151 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337002492 997466 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1337003167 458369 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337003168 113852 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337003197 680215 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-226-166.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1337003478 376716 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried Portal 2 in coop mode with a friend. It’s fun. < 1337003520 372946 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :network or split-screen? < 1337003589 87481 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-256-148.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337004056 989244 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over the Internet. < 1337004061 815906 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :with VoIP < 1337004446 552167 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1337004913 429701 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Tried Portal 2 in coop mode with a friend. It’s fun. < 1337004922 971463 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A selected moment from coöp mode between me and a friend: < 1337004945 963896 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*we both enter the map, and immediately try to jump over a short fence to our deaths, failing* "Wow, I like how both of us immediately try to kill ourselves." < 1337004984 57222 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1337005443 91747 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.168 PART :#esoteric < 1337005784 513177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The voip thing is a good idea in that particular game. < 1337005872 962416 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol coöp < 1337006214 891971 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Listen” http://translate.google.fi/#fi|fi|co%C3%B6peration < 1337006555 118370 :Slereah_!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-169-144.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337006573 731962 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-256-148.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1337006748 35656 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-164-51.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337006874 164382 :Slereah_!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-169-144.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337006998 858249 :Slereah_!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-194-158.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337007009 411109 :Slereah_!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-194-158.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Client Quit < 1337007037 107013 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-164-51.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337007529 616281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : A selected moment from cop mode between me and a friend: < 1337007529 959594 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *we both enter the map, and immediately try to jump over a short fence to our deaths, failing* "Wow, I like how both of us immediately try to kill ourselves." < 1337007540 343329 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuckers, I've been looking for someone to play coop with for ages. < 1337007565 272166 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337008051 943336 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 66 % discount is still active, get a friend to purchase it now that it’s cheap. < 1337008519 740175 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I've got a choice of two, and yet I don't. < 1337008535 998139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I will play with you!!! < 1337008546 201149 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337008574 318881 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.75/0.80 < 1337008575 64585 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.9375 < 1337008577 768784 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer isn't good enough :/ < 1337008592 303855 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I have a choice of THREE and yet I don't < 1337008595 234866 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337008602 130274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.67/0.80 < 1337008602 910139 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.8375 < 1337008695 908120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, steal better computer < 1337008697 805488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from elliott < 1337008705 734680 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a slightly more legal plan < 1337008723 373705 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/buy/ a better computer < 1337008726 344135 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337008728 59247 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :steal < 1337008729 611360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1337008730 990664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does not use < 1337008731 503237 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1337008733 264508 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1337008748 620588 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how good is your computer? < 1337008787 696380 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, good enough to play minecraft to my standards, not good enough to play minecraft to anyone else's standards < 1337008822 784614 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, but then I'd lose my Neutral Good license! < 1337008862 815152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham < 1337008865 823138 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1337008869 885436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Hexham < 1337008872 737260 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1337008880 744389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1337008883 195785 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ ais523 \ augur \ banach-tarski \ c \ cakeprophet \ category \ coffee \ comonad \ coppro \ egobot \ elliott \ endofunctor \ esoteric \ europe \ everyone \ finland \ finns \ fizzie \ flower \ friendship \ functor \ fungot \ glogbot \ gregor \ hackego \ haskell \ ievan \ intercal \ internationale \ itidus20 \ itidus21 \ kallisti \ lens \ lifthrasiir \ mad \ misspellings of croissant \ monad \ monads \ monoid \ monqy < 1337008890 617387 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs `learn Hexham < 1337008922 653786 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1337008923 809030 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1337008926 586644 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1337008981 140011 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I can't take seriously anyone who claims to have computer not good enough if they have computer that is much faster than mine < 1337009016 929483 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you play Portal 2 a lot? < 1337009037 177562 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh. you ment for gaming < 1337009057 807567 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer had a signifigant gpu upgrade recently < 1337009065 77052 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but.. i am at a loss of what software to use :D < 1337009100 916079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write your own :) < 1337009106 318998 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i work my computer hard with xchat < 1337009158 349343 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, connect to ALL the servers < 1337009173 728635 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the irc servers on earth? < 1337009177 705773 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And join #esoteric and complain about how now you don't know what software to use < 1337009180 980268 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, ALL OF THEM < 1337009292 593531 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i surrender! i have emulators, and lego wolfenstein, and some unused 3d modelling stuff, < 1337009316 274708 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i waste my life away like so many trailing periods.......... < 1337009340 315289 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, get Dwarf Fortress < 1337009423 687598 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no i had an evil idea about DF... < 1337009441 371991 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then get Minecraft? < 1337009462 381242 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly.. the thought occured to me that DF could be rendered in voxels < 1337009482 227063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 855 < 1337009485 161290 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could, quite easily. < 1337009485 209283 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :855) i once had a dream when i was told to look after some kittens but they were made of chocolate and i ate them :( < 1337009494 540059 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are programs that do that < 1337009496 608064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Added by elliott in /msg) < 1337009502 386109 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1337009503 224872 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337009512 830408 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are some of them great? < 1337009521 157226 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, never used them < 1337009530 828869 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes its like blasphemy < 1337009584 125955 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they're just a bitch to run on Linux. < 1337009620 421686 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63484.0/ < 1337009658 408948 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the record, i am not going to do any of these things.. but i do enjoy topics i can understand :-D < 1337009696 953906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One does not simply understan-- sorry no saying that's cutting too close to the pikhq line. < 1337009728 509383 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand DF proper.. but i do understand that it can be rendered :D < 1337009754 938441 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, λnfx.n(λgh.h(gf))(λu.x)(λu.u) < 1337009763 626512 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooo < 1337009812 87167 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :λg.(λx.g(xx))(λx.g(xx)) < 1337009947 214587 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1337010009 781428 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there is simply no trivial way to describe what LC does illustratively < 1337010050 161634 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it wouldn't be a good basis for a cartoon, or would it? < 1337010079 144168 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/visual-lambda/ < 1337010090 3527 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://worrydream.com/AlligatorEggs/ < 1337010145 629805 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :New from the makers of Dragon Ball, Lamuda Karukurusu < 1337010161 574125 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1337010169 385649 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it better than blue dragon probably? :D < 1337010218 233648 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337010288 5135 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think that basically.. they need to go the whole hog.. and make a 30 minute narrative based cartoon with a lambda calculus motif < 1337010495 312622 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bravo! You have just written Forth in Brainfuck written in Forth." < 1337010497 58195 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337010506 53092 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1337010506 71706 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337010525 89432 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boy I love how Freenode's host masking is basically useless. < 1337010578 833694 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1337010597 960321 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear you can set your client to authenticate to nickserv as you connect < 1337010624 498494 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: < 1337010625 17951 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Phantom_Hoover (~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #esoteric < 1337010625 188814 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host) < 1337010625 207804 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Phantom_Hoover (~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486) has joined #esoteric < 1337010632 608234 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeahno. < 1337010652 994041 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just me setting the wrong fields in XChat, as kmc says. < 1337010681 395362 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'm not sure that /is/ the problem. < 1337010714 88542 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that even if you set up the nickserv password in the client, there's no established handshake, so it can't wait for the response. < 1337010741 419258 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you have autojoin, there's a very high chance that you will join before NickServ has authenticated you, unless NickServ is atomic w.r.t. the rest of the network, which it typically is not. < 1337011343 102221 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i am a big fan of akira toriyama and it is implied you are to some degree < 1337011365 881205 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is one stretch of an implication, since I have no clue what/who you're talking about. < 1337011385 586407 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably someone (?) related to the Dragon Ball series. < 1337011401 914697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337011431 39985 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: as was mentioned, if you supply your nickserv password as the PASSWORD, then the cloak is applied immediately < 1337011463 329910 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahh, I didn't know Freenode accepted the nickserv password as the network password. < 1337011463 847040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I don't think so; I supply mine as the password, and it doesn't happen immediately enough < 1337011465 751471 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense I suppose. < 1337011471 628888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I also /msg nickserv afterwards just to make sure < 1337011481 840171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Notice] -NickServ- You are already logged in as ais523. < 1337011506 576863 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that sounds wrong; it is supposed to supply the cloak before you are able to join any channels < 1337011521 432266 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Also, there is an established handshake < 1337011537 848863 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode +i < 1337011544 754461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Then just don't join any channel before the NickServ message comes on. The amount of time it takes varies < 1337011610 20090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 TOPIC #esoteric :SPOILER ALERT: I die in the end | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1337011615 517729 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that thingy ever happens to me, tell me < 1337011636 631728 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ahhh cool i see < 1337011643 750686 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok.. false implication < 1337011662 862028 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: Also, there is an established handshake // I mean established across all networks. < 1337011706 942712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can login to NickServ using the PASS command, but sometimes there may be a delay before NickServ does anything about it (I am unsure why). < 1337011936 757960 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably it just passes it into the whole *Serv substrate, which is not atomic w.r.t. the rest of the network. < 1337011948 183573 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's essentially an agent, not a server component) < 1337012294 479284 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :akira toriyama was behind the art and story of dragonball, but of course they always have uncredited assistants. he also did art for many video games: dragon quest, chrono trigger, tobal, blue dragon < 1337012657 92783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: But it seem three of them are "dragon" < 1337012685 396170 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337012752 140692 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337012779 67036 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337012784 320433 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think dragonball is by far his greatest work < 1337012830 276074 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337012844 360243 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337013025 16895 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-101.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337013040 266343 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :Lumpio- < 1337013051 91373 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads 20IOCCC entries < 1337013056 153012 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice work Gregor :) < 1337013191 148205 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1337013201 878337 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- only winner with indented code, too 8-D < 1337013265 311080 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the sort of thing i wish i could make myself.. i can't figure it out for the life of me how someone can just make a dragon ball story happen.. < 1337013586 262693 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1337013603 958316 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dragonball is among the greatest of human endeavours. < 1337013611 934662 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey monqy never made a self-portrait of me < 1337013613 490403 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bastard < 1337013619 37349 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, can you do it < 1337013932 550514 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the methodology i have been trying is to fight convention, as if modern authors and artists had been swept out to sea by a riptide of convention < 1337013943 526018 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i haven't been trying very hard < 1337014275 759278 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realise that having "fighting convention" as your entire creative vision inevitably just ends up with a piece of crap. < 1337014329 58280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337014368 584812 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i basically think that whatever kind of video games i make will be crappy in the same way as scott mccloud's zot comics are inherently quite crappy < 1337014453 109842 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337014464 128851 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1337014493 54041 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337014562 728372 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crappy can be interpreted as, probably noone wants to own the license < 1337014646 853733 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its very true that i just can't ignore the fact that he wrote a book about comics more popular than any actual comic he made < 1337015130 764504 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he takes it in good jest http://scottmccloud.com/1-webcomics/misc/notneil.jpg < 1337015256 590937 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337015690 648161 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337016004 909940 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.168 PART :#esoteric < 1337016540 733112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: :1: Program exit by user < 1337016868 132334 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337017073 128097 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1337017347 88761 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-5.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337017354 4447 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-5.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337017373 535444 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-5.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me, or does the internet seem quite left-wing? < 1337017419 714204 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it's just you < 1337017436 624571 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean, the internet makes it easy to only interact with people who agree with you politically < 1337017444 735492 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-5.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1337017460 808864 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-5.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a fair point < 1337017498 643196 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and indeed makes it easy to only interact with people who believe the same factually incorrect things as you < 1337017501 746986 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is troubling < 1337017553 704371 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-5.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I've never thought of it like that < 1337017594 720366 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: chorizo and mushroom spaghetti < 1337017639 141154 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :""" < 1337017639 361404 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : and indeed makes it easy to only interact with people who believe the same factually incorrect things as you < 1337017639 438408 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : which is troubling < 1337017639 456596 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Wow, I've never thought of it like that""" <<< how meta-recursive < 1337017696 383702 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.abovetopsecret.com/ < 1337017790 16383 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is it just me, or does the internet seem quite left-wing? // I'mma go read Conservapedia kthx < 1337017807 417473 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude kmc < 1337017833 575092 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that website makes no sense < 1337017856 707279 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: that's because of the government UFO filtering chip installed in your prefrontal cortex by FEMA < 1337017893 152081 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 1884, meridian time personnel met in Washington to change Earth time. First words said was that only 1 day could be used on Earth to not change the 1 day bible. So they applied the 1 day and ignored the other 3 days. < 1337018034 403413 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ONEist educated with their flawed 1 eye perspective (opposite eyes overlay) Cyclops mentality, inflicts static non pulsating logos as a fictitious queer same sex transformation. < 1337018039 231463 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You tell 'em, Gene Ray! X-D < 1337018362 737426 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :educated stupid by your cocksucker god < 1337018451 910643 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337018490 444354 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's amazing how he manages to seamlessly merge his hatred for religion, science, government, homosexuality and academia. < 1337018617 580559 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm really waiting for the movie < 1337018636 240628 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know rex curry, Gregor? < 1337018641 665665 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think those two should team up < 1337018674 6421 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1337018678 720163 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rexcurry.net/pledge3.html < 1337018711 630734 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... ... sfw? < 1337018874 969107 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/containmentpolicy.htm < 1337019177 866364 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337019880 650979 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: not necessarily < 1337020069 853151 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: amazing < 1337020530 229811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337020852 720824 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whoa shit, the number 1 is overloaded with symbolism" < 1337020865 373346 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: not an actual quotation) < 1337020987 599224 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooner or later technology will be imposed upon our bodies < 1337020994 210387 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not in our lifetime < 1337021003 166303 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-5.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337021035 308157 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a brain gateway to my irssi < 1337021053 677680 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think you want that.. but.. its not good idea... < 1337021106 294923 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1337021116 216085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not want. < 1337021195 481284 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any advantages you can derive from direct brain interfaces will become disadvantages once the establishment is geared up < 1337021252 346640 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: how does your IOCCC work? < 1337021256 452796 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :utopia is not found that way < 1337021289 522645 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my vision, i was on the veranda of a vast estate, a palazzo of some fantastic proportion < 1337021307 198549 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: haha < 1337021312 275178 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: you sound like rex curry. < 1337021321 34314 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally < 1337021348 634776 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yibbada yibbada.. thank your mother for the rabbits < 1337021399 622331 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ rex hunt < 1337021399 692974 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.153 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337021450 177811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know about the various online quiz systems? I try to write compare including the my own program (Internet Quiz Engine). < 1337021466 564637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also included the text from Wikipedia < 1337021555 446313 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world needs more good quizzes like some given exceedingly deficient thing needs a massive supplement!! < 1337021623 15723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Make up a quiz file on Internet Quiz Engine. < 1337021756 471796 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trouble with multiple option dialogue trees is that each node of the tree feels like it's written as follows < 1337021770 258330 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337021778 579338 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) define several branches in terms of some concrete decision or alignment < 1337021803 786313 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) write in text inspired by the decision or the alignment < 1337021804 704876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in this case it is simply ordered, it is not a tree. But it does support skipping questions based on the answers to previous questions. < 1337021807 119739 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337021812 841217 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) expect people not to notice :D < 1337021842 307907 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Quiz Engine supports up to 26 counters you can keep track of, and when displaying the results you can compare them with each other and with constants. < 1337021844 170663 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i propose that a better system would be to make the dialogue more random in nature < 1337021854 487085 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^dialog < 1337021874 106049 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (wtf is a dialog anyway.. sounds like webster's handywork) < 1337022337 951063 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the explanation is as good as inconclusive < 1337022341 57448 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337022341 75507 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337022341 75566 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337022568 129903 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337023715 157375 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337023744 780217 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: how does your IOCCC work? // quite well, thank you. < 1337023760 145003 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Dig into it a bit, I'll answer /specific/ questions ;) ) < 1337024101 828862 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I still haven't quite figured it out < 1337024262 575197 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IOCCC entries are evil < 1337024266 467370 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337024270 863683 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*winners < 1337024289 762307 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can deal with that *shrugs* < 1337024418 727276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337024734 113129 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm lazy, please tell me everything about how it works < 1337024749 551160 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337024776 10718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome dessos < 1337024779 510450 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :dessos: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337024806 207081 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It draws magical machine code from the aether, and then JITs it into the spirit of children all over the world. < 1337024861 130437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the olde powered by a forsaken child trope < 1337024884 266178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly the reverse < 1337025005 163660 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : to burn Linux logs, you need a degree in physics and chemistry unless you use logbuntu (then reading chemistry books without understanding them is enough) (you'll also burn down your house) < 1337025272 237893 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : sooner or later technology will be imposed upon our bodies << ahahahahahaha < 1337025286 934582 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think you eat, drink, get administered < 1337025293 703880 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :aspirin isn't technology? < 1337025315 403526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337025373 686853 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about aspartame < 1337025378 961052 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or asparagus < 1337025662 676620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aspiring technologists with aspergers < 1337025799 86291 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337026073 371849 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337026086 721212 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1337026105 906059 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a Murderous Maths: Slimy Sets and Crazy Categories < 1337026113 854081 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh maths < 1337026162 288571 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :praised be the inaccessible cardinal < 1337026178 182243 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337026254 636585 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey wouldn't it be funny if there was this esoteric version of math where ordinals were these seriously fucked up things that make you cry with a smile on your face every time you prove stuff about them < 1337026281 442368 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean math? < 1337026291 756186 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is where I regret leaning what ordinal means via linguistics rather than mathematics < 1337026299 407889 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by maths, or by esoteric version of math? < 1337026310 976876 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1337026315 642550 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then yes. < 1337026337 441920 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i said maths because i prefer to use the term most recently used) < 1337026364 204002 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i meant < 1337026366 419702 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND THEN RANDOMLY SWITCH TWO LINES LATER < 1337026382 427116 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maths are an eigenvector of esoteric < 1337026390 218860 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a unitary one at that. < 1337026400 373632 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i couldn't use that ridiculous term twice in a row < 1337026436 561553 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean no one here can do math? < 1337026447 155552 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i know what you mean) < 1337026452 644648 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so polskolo < 1337026455 993208 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :polkolo < 1337026477 995325 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337026482 411558 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean that usual math is esoteric as it gets < 1337026489 793447 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i got that < 1337026498 251000 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of music do you listen to < 1337026504 37877 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1337026505 416026 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But math is short for mathematics! < 1337026514 130604 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmfzWpp0hMc < 1337026515 76996 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if you're retarded < 1337026522 313051 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: why not just tell me < 1337026528 709325 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well < 1337026539 562538 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337026542 754346 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want like a list or what < 1337026550 18925 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything complicated that i find structure in < 1337026551 632104 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337026562 418599 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever heard of biosphere < 1337026573 462757 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like robotics and hydraulics, but mathsier! < 1337026577 798302 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :faceless, born of osiris, animals as leaders, after the burial etc < 1337026590 964942 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :biosphere doesn't ring a bell < 1337026597 233835 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like metal music < 1337026602 747769 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it metal music < 1337026614 331085 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you link something of theirs < 1337026625 634846 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ambient < 1337026632 103148 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :electronic music < 1337026638 356439 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest the album "substrata" < 1337026651 147929 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you suggest a song, ambient isn't really my style < 1337026676 54905 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really the whole cd needs to be heard to have the effect < 1337026677 883236 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i like something with less than 10 notes a second, it's an anomaly < 1337026695 7027 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that slow < 1337026720 953772 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no < 1337026723 511156 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very slow < 1337026727 922163 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mental maths failed < 1337026741 445509 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz i hadn't slept for 40 hours < 1337026749 186055 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1337026754 528155 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that < 1337026857 156755 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 10 notes per second is not _really_ a necessary condition. but fast music is usually more interesting. < 1337026907 755957 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-mJPxUt8RE name is fitting, this is hyperboring. < 1337027026 174142 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess (04)^\infty is as good a sequence as any. < 1337027180 89756 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: BED < 1337027302 711748 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how long is this substrata < 1337027444 503432 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1337027760 303518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337028354 27008 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know Unicode has characters to use a character cell as a 4-pixel block? < 1337028354 172849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337028357 137101 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ▘▝▀▖▌▞▛▗▚▐▜▄▙▟█ < 1337028357 308140 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1337028357 443677 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__ said 48m 59s ago: sup aspy < 1337028664 432722 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337029387 742809 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1337029628 85154 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337030141 526414 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337030748 878895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7 < 1337032523 215445 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.168 PART :#esoteric < 1337032600 180571 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337032888 803224 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1337033829 607494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337034243 122881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337035232 860796 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337035640 958191 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I have Portal 2 for what it's worth < 1337035651 819542 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you played coop? < 1337035661 350408 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1337035675 704460 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, are you trying to find someone who hasn't? < 1337035684 183583 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337035702 198066 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott a) hasn't, b) wants to but c) can't be arsed to actually get Portal 2. < 1337036178 64792 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a current Agoran tell me what the deal is with the taunt the police mechanic? < 1337036217 487797 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :SPOILER ALERT: I use the boost to get through | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1337036734 956693 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337036752 847695 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome dessos < 1337036755 784818 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :dessos: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337037855 695657 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337038127 750002 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337038299 821661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337038366 897398 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337038844 44876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Astrolog, when I try to do transit calculation for house cusps it doesn't work. So I tried using flipped sign/houses but that causes the program to crash when flipped sign/houses are selected. < 1337039259 181732 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337039308 407520 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337040428 271683 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337041234 590737 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-172.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337041410 20820 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-121.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337042745 966003 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1337042758 22082 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1337043166 375856 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-120-81.nycap.res.rr.com PART :#esoteric < 1337043630 646219 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/Iof5s.jpg < 1337043691 651963 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me that's real Finnish. < 1337043705 12069 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is indeed. < 1337044494 74902 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337044878 692275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I am back now < 1337045242 586705 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, wb' < 1337045978 192921 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337046275 136725 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337047705 571896 :wsaadus!waleed_saa@41.129.12.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337048002 20369 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made a table to review four online quiz systems: Internet Quiz Engine, Quizilla, OkCupid, and FunTrivia. Some information I got from Wikipedia, some by trying, and the first one is my own program. If you have information about these, or suggest for additional systems to compare, tell me please. < 1337048048 303575 :wsaadus!waleed_saa@41.129.12.48 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337048067 276150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the maximum number of questions and maximum choices per question and maximum number of results for Quizilla? Do you know what programming language Quizilla and FunTrivia are written in? < 1337048110 877162 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what are your requirements for "quiz system"? does something like surveymonkey count? < 1337048178 402935 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No. (Although I may make a way to conduct polls using IRC, in future.) (Also, if you have any feature suggestion of Internet Quiz Engine, tell me that too.) < 1337048190 975749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, if you have any comparison rows to suggest in the table.) < 1337048219 309529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: define "quiz system" < 1337048255 235926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It is difficult. I used Wikipedia's article about "Online quiz" for now < 1337048298 478030 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt even know okc was still supporting their quiz system < 1337048305 667101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is a German service there, but I do not know well reading German, so I will omit that one unless someone can provide me all the information for each row in the table) < 1337048423 348927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: As far as I can tell, they are, and no account is required to run the quiz editor on OkCupid, either. And it appears to have some similarities to Internet Quiz Engine. < 1337048475 448325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher://zzo38computer.cjb.net:70/0textfile/miscellaneous/onlinequiz.txt http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/textfile/miscellaneous/onlinequiz.txt < 1337048554 543167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If any information is incorrect or missing, and you know the correct entry, please notify me. < 1337050760 674410 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337054842 396556 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337054954 110497 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337056401 783039 :azaq23!~derivecto@HSI-KBW-37-49-5-105.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1337056405 452847 :azaq23!~derivecto@HSI-KBW-37-49-5-105.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Changing host < 1337056405 471322 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337056885 677365 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337057680 490718 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337057694 93473 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337058928 274495 :atran!~atran@s83-177-138-113.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1337058956 716645 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337059000 7445 :atran!~atran@s83-177-138-113.cust.tele2.se PART :#esoteric < 1337059038 115769 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337059038 156168 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337059038 174431 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337059049 132299 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337059086 209666 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337059102 309105 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337059104 30109 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1337059104 48501 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1337060624 114861 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337061758 494280 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mutters < 1337061770 744632 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you stick upscaled video on a Bluray? < 1337061798 878659 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yeah, uh, it was originally 480i, but... Fuck you, we're giving you 1080p with no gain in quality." < 1337063106 616083 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1337064131 31641 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337064254 563860 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: because the bluray sells for more money? < 1337064321 935622 :nortti!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1337064346 242893 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1337064563 119266 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No reason you couldn't stick better-compressed 480i or 480p video on there though. < 1337064607 870998 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if you do that you can't stick that HD 1080p logo on the back of it < 1337065197 904968 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337065401 59906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't stick in 480p video, it's not legal. < 1337065430 845325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The primary video stream must be one of six "HD" formats, or one of two (480i at NTSC rates, 576i at PAL) "SD" ones. < 1337065432 229287 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-172.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337065471 18560 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337065508 963671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C.f. http://www.blu-raydisc.com/assets/Downloadablefile/BD-ROM_Audio_Visual_Application_Format_Specifications-18780.pdf pages 14-15, "Primary video stream".) < 1337065564 587543 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost all 480p video is 480p24... And one of the weirder things about MPEG-2 container formats is it's possible to mux 480p24 so that it plays back as a 480i30 stream, which *ought* to be legal on Blu-ray... < 1337065578 47998 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is on DVDs, and is *extensively* used) < 1337065618 397226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"720x480x59.94-i" is the 480i format, if that's what you mean, yes. < 1337065622 150712 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337065635 171765 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah, yeah, that. < 1337065673 117504 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Wait, it's 720x480? The single most ridiculous choice of resolutions? < 1337065701 484729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the pdf above says. < 1337065715 304292 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kay, so the people who did Blu-ray were clueless. < 1337065737 851172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also says that "real" 480p24 (and 480p23.976) is allowed in the secondary video stream. < 1337065758 253970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the picture-in-picture feature.) < 1337065824 97486 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :720x480 includes the nominal analogue blanking, making it the single least convenient digital video resolution to deal with. < 1337065858 812904 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so nearly everything handles it wrong, instead just playing it as straight 4:3 or 16:9. < 1337065877 576470 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1337065932 990872 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of either playing it at the appropriate pixel aspect ratio, or imitating analog TV behavior by displaying the active picture area as 4:3 or 16:9. < 1337066208 25161 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337066286 146162 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337066848 167206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, one assumes they're following the DVD-Video spec there; according to secondary sources (the official isn't anywhere, of course) it allows (for NTSC) 720x480 and 704x480, but actual "anamorphic" 16:9 only when the "full-D1" (720x480) resolution is used. < 1337066952 521368 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337066971 53167 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337067115 909497 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Nice* violation of Rec. 601 there. < 1337067739 132332 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337067778 191187 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337067794 197700 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337068603 479471 :Lymee!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1337068613 530513 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1337068617 521187 :Lymee!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan NICK :Madoka-Kaname < 1337068835 311358 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337068866 795119 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337069960 465291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played very short Dungeons&Dragons today < 1337069973 250697 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were you all dwarves and halflings? < 1337069975 316969 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hur hur) < 1337070083 120248 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But go on < 1337070084 496744 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you are going on and I've lost connection, which is a distinct possibility < 1337070084 514448 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1337070084 514724 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, I've lost connection < 1337070084 681755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1337070085 185971 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye! < 1337070085 241414 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337070168 890033 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No. It is continuation of the same game as before, just a session of a short duration. < 1337071317 49454 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-144-172.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337071424 702417 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-191.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1337071833 817198 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-226-147.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337071995 853249 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-144-172.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337072100 186821 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337072100 224069 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337072100 242288 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337072348 115034 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337072483 918602 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O new DF < 1337072489 810727 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will be the new nickname? < 1337072494 210473 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF2012 is taken < 1337072792 772879 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337072792 900191 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337072801 592522 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll still be df2012 < 1337072815 859003 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :toady's released like 4 non-save-compatible updates thus far < 1337072972 715615 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337072986 69964 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337073036 227554 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this mean I'll have to start my fortress AGAIN!? < 1337073968 292749 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't pretend it hasn't been ransacked yet < 1337074002 404114 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, is this one non-save-compatible still? < 1337074117 838981 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337074130 451771 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's half the reason I'm get to properly get back into DF. < 1337074151 636070 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... really not a game for backwards compatibility. < 1337074154 706302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: Ha! I will put your leg in the sand! And then your face will be in the dirt! < 1337074180 319289 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I think the notes say that it is save-compatible? < 1337074210 320938 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? Good. < 1337074245 96861 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg minecarts look so fun < 1337074259 898872 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :particularly since they look so weaponisable < 1337074283 642014 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To my knowledge, Minecraft only has 5 non-save-compatible families < 1337074300 673823 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first 4 are presumably all really old? < 1337074311 283230 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the last 3 are on different platforms < 1337074316 164809 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's classic and indev < 1337074327 77681 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, mobile and 360. < 1337074336 449695 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then infdev/alpha/beta/"full" release < 1337074342 342347 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And mobile and 360 < 1337074353 233948 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe iOS and Android versions are co-compatible < 1337075076 895554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337075163 909238 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, really? < 1337075171 433207 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought on the PC, there have been 4 formats so far. < 1337075187 438904 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but they included converters < 1337075188 165316 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classic, Beta, first file-system like format, Anvil < 1337075201 291368 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's been more than that < 1337075211 685443 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, there was one before NBT too < 1337075252 947469 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classic and Indev had their own formats < 1337075304 619166 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's Alpha format, Region format, then Anvil format < 1337076449 612299 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1337076634 234226 :cheater__!~cheater@g230225136.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337077116 267259 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net NICK :Taneb|Hovercraft < 1337077193 160674 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337077380 488116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337077590 355591 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1337077682 595315 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-147-115.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337077694 191468 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Fuel < 1337077706 172298 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-226-147.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337077708 67688 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE GET THE POINT, THEY'RE IDENTICAL FOR ALL IN-GAME PURPOSES < 1337077811 185026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1337077813 685379 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337077861 726043 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PatashuXantheres, you're getting longer < 1337077891 792536 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337078012 223030 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On another note, Homestuck Anthem still sounds like a ping-pong match to me < 1337078569 648512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Homestuck Anthem and a ping-pong match are identical for all in-game purposes. < 1337079664 52237 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337079664 70585 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337079664 70709 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337079872 208591 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337080659 248831 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337080873 212943 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337082092 91779 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337082092 110073 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337082092 110200 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337082309 835652 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1337082415 134029 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-139-57.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337082518 284442 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337082542 920761 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1337082792 120038 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337082806 100692 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337082806 118810 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337083026 78680 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337084280 138694 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337085480 89949 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337085480 145251 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337085480 145339 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337085724 200346 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337085790 101662 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337085805 511436 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337085805 529691 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337086028 167734 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337086690 298263 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337086702 658624 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337086702 676732 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337086940 178450 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337087593 536472 :azaq23!~derivecto@HSI-KBW-37-49-5-105.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1337087605 652012 :azaq23!~derivecto@HSI-KBW-37-49-5-105.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Changing host < 1337087605 670188 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337088811 567203 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337088827 75899 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337088948 268877 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 'sup bro < 1337088999 363622 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bro is of course short for brogrammer < 1337089212 43842 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1337089359 744414 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE895EE.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337090005 960389 :Dr_Frankenstein!~monster@46.115.17.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337090019 329613 :Dr_Frankenstein!~monster@46.115.17.236 PART :#esoteric < 1337090994 229654 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1989-05-28/ < 1337091056 621116 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1337091528 492231 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth about the world is that crime does pay < 1337091695 820240 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you leave now then who's gonna play? < 1337091734 400613 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[or some similar post] < 1337091768 968698 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cos i'd like to think the world was a better place < 1337091781 617960 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to leave the world as a better place < 1337091815 619921 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^so if you walk away, then who's gonna stay? < 1337091868 655596 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[or some similar post] < 1337091992 143363 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337092561 251269 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 understands < 1337092630 907953 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i acknowledge that it doesn't mean i agree.. nor that i get the meaning of it < 1337092657 231442 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i don't want to agree or anything < 1337093249 168883 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337093249 842959 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337093485 26288 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://images.4chan.org/mu/src/1336752176872.png :> < 1337093506 515336 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still had that open in my browser < 1337093576 166533 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-24.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337093589 964926 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-147-115.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337094038 553219 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: 404 < 1337094052 664413 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337094096 60948 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was that nef quintero thing < 1337094307 120568 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, gotta love that nef quintero thing < 1337094341 109597 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. no idea what you mean) < 1337094644 837841 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nef quintero sounds vaguely familiar < 1337094670 324610 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds a bit like something Intel might do < 1337094886 488913 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yes < 1337094890 627111 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :although: http://www.facebooktroll.com/2011/06/nef-quintero-is-going-to-hack-into-your-computers-and-beat-you-up/ < 1337094892 7525 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1337094902 11749 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1337095824 139709 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337095849 837725 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm starting to see things from nef's point of view though < 1337095878 428645 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, read Timecube, tell me how it goes < 1337095920 402218 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have heard of timecube.. i don't want to mess my head up any further honestly < 1337095975 649474 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ended up on one such page.. it was bad enough < 1337096022 101576 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337096217 958534 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/05/15/congratulations-on-the-divorce-norway/ < 1337096489 723397 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1337096517 38709 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1337096529 422376 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337096565 896003 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess nef is what i would be if i was more aggressive, rude and risk-taking sort of person < 1337096632 626899 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 20 years younger < 1337096645 235173 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1337096742 19830 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gradually i am coming to terms with the core ultimatums, tradeoffs, and decisions of life < 1337098025 588597 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337098049 931746 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337099072 905981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337099090 518014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to compare yesterday's temperature with today? < 1337099168 695686 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is temperature compard? < 1337099223 971298 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say about the same? < 1337099275 16382 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337099337 90057 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: best optimization ever. < 1337099440 925291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in the city I am at < 1337099457 138371 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which city'd that be? < 1337099462 154785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I mean in Vancouver, BC, which is near where I am at < 1337099480 140704 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337099532 380316 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say probably cooler, given the data I've found in 30 secs of looking < 1337100531 600518 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337100540 257627 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu 12.04 installer displays @ubuntu tweets. < 1337100545 85611 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck. < 1337100806 726877 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-24.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337100808 933620 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-242.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337101798 138917 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337101806 264275 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337102601 241885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There exist NP-complete problems for which the best known running times have the form O(2^(n^c)) for c < 1, and if the best possible running time for 3-SAT were of this form..." < 1337102631 42449 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does this say "if"? doesn't a subexponential time algorithm for any NP-complete problem imply a subexponential time algorithm for 3-SAT? < 1337102685 231600 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(namely by running the reduction of 3-SAT to that other problem, which involves solving that other problem a polynomial number of times) < 1337102700 472618 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: wow < 1337102925 486702 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what they should do < 1337102930 22659 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dump you onto #ubuntu < 1337102931 709453 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have you chat < 1337102936 717974 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be like unreal tournament < 1337102942 941979 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever played unreal tournament, kmc? < 1337102973 841594 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a multiplayer server browser < 1337102998 158547 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it automatically connected to #utgames on some irc server < 1337103021 191032 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to know the admin of that thing < 1337103027 668089 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point he got tired of tens of thousands of clients constantly connecting and disconnecting < 1337103041 332631 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and blocked the unreal tournament irc client from connecting at all < 1337103045 364924 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolz abound < 1337103303 386726 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc, while this yii guy is still trying to figure out my cv (he's sending me questions about it) i got contacted by some guy today for some other php job < 1337103329 436007 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i need to know OOP PHP5. < 1337103374 505093 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i need to know how to write APIs. < 1337103391 469792 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sorry < 1337103397 855985 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"develop" APIs < 1337103444 581021 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a good to have if i can build high availability clusters < 1337103671 570883 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: come to europe and write clusters with me < 1337103678 471588 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll implement NFS over HTTPS < 1337103680 884468 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where in europe < 1337103689 509776 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you kept up with my migrations < 1337103702 113414 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's local to where i live < 1337103710 727518 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because fuck moving for a job right now < 1337103774 526758 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually we could implement NFS over Token Ring over Frame Relay over RS-485 over UDP over HTTP < 1337103794 564733 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337103805 943329 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RS-485 for the win < 1337104082 382595 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337104274 147636 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc if i have an URL which applies to many reddits then can i link it to all of them < 1337104282 938083 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1337104288 284433 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if my wording is correct < 1337104297 91926 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not up to it when it comes to new things < 1337104302 473498 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know a way other than submitting indivdually to each < 1337104328 309983 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea but is this 1. possible 2. allowed < 1337104335 867547 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also 3. dongs < 1337104353 121366 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337104375 701674 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337104477 170898 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've done it many times and haven't been yelled at < 1337104480 976332 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i kind of hate reddit < 1337104487 198717 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i still submit there because i want my things to be seen < 1337104630 323318 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1337104660 812994 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1337104662 920181 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here. < 1337104671 543632 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there's no "kind of" < 1337104672 233357 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit is the scum of the earth < 1337104673 302034 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like irc < 1337104680 541379 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1337104695 483014 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc < 1337104696 858483 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :move here < 1337104698 597068 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have Bier < 1337104701 175434 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Oktoberfest < 1337104705 686385 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Grossbusige Frauen < 1337104729 349531 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Stahlharte Jungs if you prefer that sort of thing < 1337104730 910854 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1337104735 910066 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned a new word today < 1337104738 880087 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks cheater_ < 1337104747 314482 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it < 1337104753 1621 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zygohistopreproconfluence < 1337104761 317762 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it was Grossbusige < 1337104762 692279 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's two words < 1337104768 844897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop cheating < 1337104770 394560 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what was your word < 1337104772 641694 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337104772 809131 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337104776 606034 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: we have bier in Belgium too! < 1337104781 795754 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it uses scharfes-s < 1337104788 997940 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: but not Bier < 1337104799 544793 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Großbusige? < 1337104804 410243 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, like that. < 1337104819 243294 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bier und großbusige Frauen und Schnellzüge < 1337104825 452141 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well the dutch word is 'bier'(without the capital) < 1337104833 730430 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heiße Großbusige Fickstuten < 1337104860 584746 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ich spreiche leider nicht gut Deutsch. < 1337104862 309482 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: exactly, that means the edit distance IS NOT ZERO < 1337104867 171400 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's Fickstuten < 1337104880 275698 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aber Ich studiere Deutsch. < 1337104881 482394 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a composite word < 1337104908 126362 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :faustfick < 1337104909 160250 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stute is a female equine < 1337104935 401233 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should capitalize that, otherwise you're not allowed to perform the action < 1337105042 159040 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. German is a nice language, at least I think. < 1337105049 401166 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ich haben ein nicht knowledge of the German language < 1337105061 991284 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1337105064 403683 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wins < 1337105071 475142 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@trollcoins +100 Taneb < 1337105071 656847 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1337105131 748490 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow lambdabot you are so uncool < 1337105142 96888 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows trollcoins are the new, free currency < 1337105150 825559 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the free currency that anyone can edit < 1337105215 682443 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahah < 1337105227 422462 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@trollcoins +100 kmc < 1337105227 587347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1337105235 622783 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit lambdabot why are you so retarded < 1337105248 37280 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why won't you ever learn when we're talking to you < 1337105267 994962 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc, i've been thinking about this whole issue of a child learning for years how to do the most basic things < 1337105275 763883 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the AIs not having that much time to themselves < 1337105317 928262 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think that's kind of bullshit, because people should be able to play back courses to the AI in accelerated time < 1337105322 244984 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like a unit test < 1337105331 24606 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a selenium test < 1337105353 924759 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :brr, my blood chills when i think of an AI raised with a selenium test suite < 1337105387 248699 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wouldn't that be absolutely amazing < 1337105412 993536 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be able to create an intelligence, and finely tune every aspect of its psyche by being able to rewrite every moment in its upbringing < 1337105436 964110 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have it not only trained by the most amazing people in the world, but also have them go back and fix possible issues < 1337105462 901557 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be like the road to perfecting the human psyche < 1337105472 727898 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a movie in there somewhere < 1337105476 350349 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a joke, but i got nothin' < 1337105515 584351 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337105524 40044 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, going to feed birds in the park < 1337105582 85370 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337105599 580630 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-151-214.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337105617 991690 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-242.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337105696 971548 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, kmc you're such a homeless person < 1337105724 623963 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet "brb" just means "wait while i close the laptop lid and put it in my shopping cart" < 1337105898 397170 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He seems to be taking a long while to close the laptop lid < 1337105996 160427 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337106002 680658 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be fooled, he's on a bouncer < 1337106034 483079 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: the problem is mainly that current (chat) Ai works with detection of patterns but can't place something in a context < 1337106050 752108 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if 2 patterns collide things fuck up < 1337106057 149688 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking about ai in general < 1337106065 123249 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you know, hard intelligence < 1337106089 192492 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computers are probably just not big enough then < 1337106115 315596 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and inefficient < 1337106117 391178 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome! My calcilator broke and ee have math exam (trigonomeyric fictions) tomorrow < 1337106120 519234 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reckon computers are big enough, just nobody's figured out the trick yet < 1337106127 260511 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well compared to the human brain of course < 1337106155 934929 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, cos 0 = 1; sin 0 = 0 < 1337106161 115177 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all you need to know < 1337106161 416287 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe; maybe not. < 1337106169 910393 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: they need a supercomputer to simulate the human brain for less than a second(I read that somewhere) < 1337106212 689179 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: just imagine a circle in your mind < 1337106232 7599 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't need to simulate the human brain to replicate intelligence < 1337106234 530934 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: umh. maybe I just try to use,my slide rule < 1337106239 249489 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :we couldn't even use a calculate < 1337106243 218682 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-139-15.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337106243 455234 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find a table of trigonometry. Perhaps you can print it out from your computer, if it is permitted < 1337106245 115171 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slide rules have trig? < 1337106252 703691 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they did logs < 1337106254 599180 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-151-214.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337106262 434651 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, the past is an amazing place < 1337106269 537344 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well mine has sin < 1337106272 798277 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: true, but it means that intelligence is really complicated < 1337106277 38328 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: My slide rule has trig, logs, and more. Different slide rules have different functions, some are fancy and have many, while some have only multiplication < 1337106279 268983 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337106299 865794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a slide rule too < 1337106301 802043 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow! < 1337106322 507315 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a slide rule... < 1337106328 187682 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have one in the drawer over there < 1337106335 613945 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I have it? < 1337106341 710113 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a curta, but they are ungettable without thousands of dollars < 1337106357 787021 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't have printer. If I write something I use my electronic typewriter < 1337106403 364570 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a typewriter? are you from the past? < 1337106403 709269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you have a curta < 1337106411 235830 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: try asking your relatives. That's where I got minr < 1337106424 988574 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not curta thoug) < 1337106428 948441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: my relatives are not sciencey < 1337106430 134371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: OK, then you have to type it by hand, even if calculated by computer < 1337106445 734360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I do not know what that mean < 1337106457 3945 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: google it < 1337106486 335029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, perhaps later I will look it on Google or Wikipedia < 1337106494 222843 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I have time travelled from year 1997 to chat in this channel < 1337106494 437447 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :use DuckDuckGo < 1337106497 198255 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not google < 1337106508 806738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ordinarily prefer Wikipedia < 1337106513 42375 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: cool! welcome to our century, traveller < 1337106535 896029 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Can I barrow your time machine?(assuming that's how you got here) < 1337106541 414690 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*borrow < 1337106578 922907 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I don't have time machine. it was xkcd reference < 1337106589 451336 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337106596 523195 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Computers are probably just not big enough then < yeah but improving computer < 1337106603 85981 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Computers are probably just not big enough then < yeah but improving computer performance is a solved problem < 1337106629 519078 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: until Moore's law ends < 1337106638 657323 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti's time machine: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003124 < 1337106650 903406 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT NEVER ENDS < 1337106659 737961 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :people say it is, although I'm not convinced < 1337106666 641012 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*will end < 1337106813 290078 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have travelled from the year 1986 to tell you this: you are really young, nortti < 1337106837 864823 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I am < 1337106838 161943 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, or in 1986? < 1337106855 63078 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :How old am I? < 1337106860 11980 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1997? that's as old as my brother! < 1337106896 724976 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: NEVER might be an overstatement; not in the near future? < 1337106984 387463 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER ENDS < 1337107349 816112 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess you can keep on making something smaller forever < 1337107368 280934 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it's infinite small < 1337107406 59676 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite^(-1) < 1337107501 695230 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite^oo < 1337107631 709513 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/0 < 1337107632 426759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity < 1337107642 67384 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1/0)^(-1) < 1337107642 820710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Negative exponent < 1337107649 518259 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1/0)^^(-1) < 1337107650 325581 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1337107755 793095 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt (1/0) < 1337107756 425123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity < 1337107803 508383 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqrt(1/0)=(1/0)^(-1) < 1337107914 973000 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait. It is not < 1337107982 647645 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1/0)^(-1)=1/(1/0) < 1337107993 843745 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/(1/0) < 1337107994 500697 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1337108021 31336 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :>sqrt(-1) < 1337108022 434161 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337108027 642105 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART :#esoteric < 1337108034 328983 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt(-1) < 1337108035 147310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : NaN < 1337108043 126923 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :no complex? < 1337108073 445788 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0/0 < 1337108074 341034 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : NaN < 1337108088 303967 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0%0 < 1337108089 49966 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Ratio.%: zero denominator < 1337108573 359860 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt (-1) :: Complex < 1337108574 75065 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expecting an ordinary type, but found a type of kind * -> * < 1337108579 396024 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt (-1) :: Complex Double < 1337108580 120082 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-0.0) :+ 1.0 < 1337108585 606480 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1337108601 468000 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> + 1 2 3 4 < 1337108602 163267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `+' < 1337108607 846112 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't that work? < 1337108618 159243 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought operators were prefix in lambda expressions < 1337108618 845294 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because + is infix < 1337108628 321059 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is Haskell, not Lambda < 1337108631 943212 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337108637 500178 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains < 1337108648 371004 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (+) 1 2 + (+) 3 4 < 1337108649 104561 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1337108672 204968 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> a = 5; a^2 < 1337108672 895454 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `=' < 1337108676 880536 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1337108680 848170 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a = 5 in a ^ 2 < 1337108681 654075 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 25 < 1337108686 234354 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where lyah < 1337108686 371757 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.learnyouahaskell.com/ < 1337108689 174524 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337108693 167571 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know haskell, unfortunately < 1337108695 204260 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read that if you want to learn Haskel < 1337108696 241657 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1337108709 375398 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will I have have some time < 1337108710 728553 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do most people who learn haskell already know LC? :D < 1337108726 179967 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, I'd presume not < 1337108795 24370 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where rwh < 1337108795 288378 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.realworldhaskell.org/blog/ http://book.realworldhaskell.org/read/ < 1337108803 985290 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, that's another alternative < 1337108843 48740 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a = 0 in a/a < 1337108843 862614 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : NaN < 1337108846 848421 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1337108853 54241 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join (/) 0 < 1337108853 960037 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : NaN < 1337108865 312310 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you don't need to know why that works until later) < 1337108876 394143 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :judging by the way my face grinched at the idea .. i won't ask that question again < 1337108982 640355 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog itidus < 1337108998 57281 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote commitee < 1337109002 141797 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1337109007 926030 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote comittee < 1337109013 863969 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :597) I think this has taught us one thing. We can't teach itidus20 lambda calculus by comittee < 1337109019 973350 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-07-16.txt:00:00:57: -!- itidus20 has joined #esoteric. \ 2011-07-16.txt:03:40:55: zzo, sort of like how stage hypnosis is supposed to work eh. \ 2011-07-16.txt:03:42:10: i've seen an [obviously staged] video of a guy who hypnotized a woman to think he was invisible and then he would tickle her with a feather and make her look up with confusion \ 2011-07-16.txt:03:42:20: on youtube < 1337109040 828492 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1337109192 116644 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog itidus < 1337109204 556429 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25272 < 1337109221 249655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337109295 898206 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gods.. i'm really the worst. < 1337109366 784310 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, you're great. < 1337109372 473556 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We all love you for being you. < 1337109443 265278 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that right, ais523? < 1337109471 255322 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337109471 298684 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like me.. its not a cause for guilt or sympathy.. but.. comparing myself to other wild ones who come here < 1337109506 631913 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am really on my own trip.. < 1337109529 479023 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your rambles really cheer me up < 1337109561 243706 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you still homeless < 1337109567 965215 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you back < 1337109624 338453 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason i looked up my logs is to find a particular ramble.. and i wanted to see if something i just did was unconcious plagiarism :D < 1337109733 180331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337109872 353400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's better for someone to be themself than someone else < 1337109873 727180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually < 1337109900 471700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1337110661 778426 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : itidus20: i think it's better to prevent reaching the middle altogether < 1337110667 135852 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to finally agree < 1337110738 982962 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Taneb: imagine a square where the sides are glued to each other, but not by actually bending the square, instead by making the sides be teleportation portals... < 1337110753 754042 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has a way with words.. < 1337110831 940179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But topologically I think it would be the same thing either way < 1337110857 10088 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.. what i ended up doing was very simple.. diabolically simple even < 1337110879 600474 :Aardwolf!~BBQ@240-34.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1337111033 538470 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oi50.tinypic.com/xxd89.jpg < 1337111070 742636 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the circle is a HUD map.. which basically was the missing piece i needed combined with what oklo said that middle of the thing shouldn't be accessible < 1337111161 527986 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the HUD map could potentially go a long way to create the illusion that you are walking around a round planet < 1337111351 870709 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1337111367 84654 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337111495 134229 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quality of mspaintadventures seems way up < 1337111648 3183 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no im just very confused < 1337111707 825910 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, http://www.mspaintadventures.com/cascade.php?s=6&p=6009 < 1337111812 590312 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just remembered this really low quality art about 2 guys doing some weird stuff < 1337111874 872493 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: i'm back < 1337111878 493442 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the birds didn't want my food < 1337111910 704977 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, it hasn't been like that since 2006 < 1337111928 497704 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 2007, it was medium quality about one guy doing some weird stuff < 1337112064 479492 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was that < 1337112313 940442 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337112393 367342 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wearing wizard hats and marx masks and smoking pipes < 1337112420 453610 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's high quality art about LOADS AND LOADS OF FREAKING CHARACTERS doing REALLY WEIRD STUFF < 1337112463 900712 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-83-153.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: goodnight < 1337112773 578005 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337112798 672683 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blackout < 1337112803 164610 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a few seconds < 1337112841 675445 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: that was too creepy for me < 1337113155 542762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please read gopher://zzo38computer.cjb.net:70/0phlog*c_prog.ibtlfmm-part-i < 1337113203 660473 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't think i'd want your food either. < 1337113225 688533 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably full of tobasco. < 1337113247 376737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of food is it? < 1337113389 977245 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that is a super sketchy URL < 1337113396 103285 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: it was stale bread < 1337113399 732658 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like croutons almost < 1337113402 361722 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no tobasco < 1337113468 491467 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you apparently must still improve at being the pidgeon lady < 1337113476 851539 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pigeon too < 1337113536 4590 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pidgin lady < 1337113539 804321 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, we had competition < 1337113544 983085 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some guy throwing fresh bread < 1337113547 745668 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337113550 162724 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's we < 1337113553 477235 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn city pigeons, they have it so good < 1337113555 911562 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you having a social life < 1337113556 63386 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me and my girlfriend < 1337113558 134308 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337113561 583126 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not true < 1337113569 725463 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is she a 45 year old truck driver < 1337113577 834296 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337113578 175028 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :with hairy elbows < 1337113583 199453 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337113590 651373 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just a splatter, splatter, splatter on the windshield of life < 1337113598 17458 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is she interesting and h0t < 1337113600 325739 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337113615 347326 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is she more interesting and h0t than me < 1337113672 146078 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know cheater_ < 1337113709 465125 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you inched this ----> <---- close to getting your head ripped off < 1337113714 295579 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :safe answer < 1337113823 83974 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc < 1337113837 816473 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean i'm not your #1 any more < 1337114115 312431 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1337114120 187425 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337114254 591228 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have not been replaced as your only reason to get up in the morning < 1337114271 497074 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good < 1337114307 242770 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey btw, have you noticed that the new logitech keyboards have this funny rounded space bar < 1337114322 83109 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of like the classical rectangular bar < 1337114343 869590 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :much easier to hit with the thumb < 1337114371 100153 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it rounded? < 1337114544 228602 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tapers off so the front edge is much lower than the edge facing the keys < 1337115312 91885 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337116675 755922 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I' < 1337116751 251709 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337116757 109303 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337117498 711934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What does a super sketchy URL mean? < 1337117853 478370 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337119161 702705 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :R.U. a Cyberpunk? http://d.asset.soup.io/asset/3167/2077_6fd2.jpeg < 1337120113 793751 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old id that image? < 1337120172 474786 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337120181 646948 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello all bright minds < 1337120191 795034 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a bit of research I found this irc chan < 1337120211 794602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tiMMe < 1337120213 690700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1337120215 733554 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337120246 848387 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use some help with decoding a ''turing esoteric'' code < 1337120265 369649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1337120274 850911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a program in an esolang but don't know the language? or something else? < 1337120294 825238 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Its a hobby of mine.. and to get to the next hint.. i need to crack this one < 1337120305 804248 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had no idea what this was before 10 min ago < 1337120308 684530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're missing some context, I think < 1337120336 661198 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-139-57.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337120363 552533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you haven't given me enough information to explain what you're trying to do < 1337120367 517392 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-139-57.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337120381 311570 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allright.. < 1337120404 961614 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is somewhat like a treasure hunt.. the clue i need to get to the next part, is decrypted.. < 1337120416 252249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :encrypted? < 1337120420 563358 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337120424 588952 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I don't know what to call it < 1337120427 109317 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1337120431 437470 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its written in this coe < 1337120433 425420 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :code* < 1337120451 295119 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could I post a pastebin link, and you could take a look at it < 1337120459 70559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, might help to explain things < 1337120517 798465 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you mind taking a look at it for me? maybe you'll understand it < 1337120526 792314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already said OK… < 1337120530 204383 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/eLJVk507 < 1337120531 536292 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1337120615 117916 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337120690 668894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot figure it out yet, but I tried. I can see it consists of letters P,Q,R,S,T,U,V and spaces. < 1337120723 288835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiMMe: are you sure that's an esolang? or just a regular code? < 1337120729 10177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess regular codes are almost ontopic here too… < 1337120748 658009 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I asked for another hint, and he said turing esoteric < 1337120750 493390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including long runs of Q, some runs of T as well. But, I do am just guessing it to be a regular code, and not any kind of computer program < 1337120776 311964 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337120779 246155 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> sleep < 1337120780 373833 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337120795 649921 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its probably only a code, not a computer program < 1337120820 652439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel's mostly about programming < 1337120823 800333 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you decypher it, it will give me directions, coordinates or something < 1337120832 136109 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay.. sorry about that. had no idea < 1337120858 570362 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any idea where I could get help with this type of thing? < 1337120866 651701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1337120876 864214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's probably not actually that bad a place, even though it's offtopic < 1337120883 77509 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is probably a significance to the offsets between the letters, i.e. it's encoding something like 1,0,0,1,1,-2,0,0,... < 1337120903 177327 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well you guys came to more conclutions in 2 min, than me and my friends did in 4-5 hours :P < 1337120911 962849 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337120924 651399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discuss it here if you want; we are often not on topic anyways, but you can try something more relevant channel may work < 1337120930 952250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I was thinking of that too < 1337120956 38318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the six letters correspond to the six 3D compass directions? < 1337120964 3151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be forming the route through a 3D maze < 1337120965 302259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also noticed the sequence "PQQQRSQQQQPTUSQV PQQQQQQQQQRSTTTTTTTTTPTUSTV" appearing twice < 1337120995 670411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, every code word ends with "V" < 1337121004 899648 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Above the "code" it says this : Crack the code to find its whereabouts... | That's why I think its coordinates < 1337121008 125140 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, good catches, both. < 1337121044 240012 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, they all contain PTUS, then zero or more (but few) characters, then V at the end. < 1337121058 367475 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And all start with PQQ, but that's a bit more obvious) < 1337121083 632215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the offsets between the letters do not seem relevant to me due to the way what letters are used and their patterns < 1337121098 346001 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But, yes those too, are something to consider < 1337121141 432058 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1337121158 268020 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE895EE.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337121223 142663 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you want the website where I've gotten the code? Maybe its easier to look at it there < 1337121243 300612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiMMe: Do you have any more context, such as, what would this be the whereabouts of? < 1337121254 53617 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, look at this link < 1337121255 670431 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://coord.info/GC3K55F < 1337121651 875746 :Aardwolf!~BBQ@240-34.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337121777 922181 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337121921 308585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is difficult. < 1337121983 782198 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could it be one of those languages where its not concerned with the symbols but the patterns they form? < 1337122012 557626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly < 1337122052 248507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless I think that the spaces delimit code words and each one is separate from each other < 1337122507 91332 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337122778 492367 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net NICK :trollstyre < 1337122831 739888 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1)each codeword always starts with P < 1337122838 454749 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2)after intial P there is always a sequence of 2 - 9 Q's < 1337122848 675966 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3)after the sequence of Q's there is always RS < 1337122862 637249 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4)the RS is always followed by either a sequence of 3 - 10 Q's or a sequence of 3 - 9 T's < 1337123004 43237 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5)this is always followed by PTU < 1337123097 182932 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it could be regular < 1337123114 343953 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the language from which words between spaces are taken < 1337123177 287801 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see < 1337123185 60938 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiMMe: So is this from Dropbox or notch < 1337123189 72331 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather. 1 - 2 PTU's < 1337123285 642251 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1337123300 628657 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dropbox or notch ? what do you mean < 1337123335 554153 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, someone cracked it for me ;D on a norwegian forum < 1337123350 26138 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ook, what was this from anyways < 1337123369 252958 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got what i said above wrong < 1337123421 425246 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiMMe: do tell < 1337123505 23103 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im guessing that Q and T are like brainfuck's + and - in some way < 1337123523 213225 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed that Q was + since it was the most of it. And since there were an equal amount of R and U they had to be [ and ], R came first so it had to be [. I saw on a example program that they started with > So I assumed that was P. I guessed the rest, only 7 tsigns total, so few options. < 1337123602 801467 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1337123629 987880 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an impure puzzle. < 1337123641 314011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: are you making a Haskell joke? < 1337123646 368963 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337123655 282818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1337123658 558682 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...somehow it made me think of brainfuck too < 1337123662 347737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if we have a defined punishment for Haskell jokes < 1337123664 283650 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't bother to actually run it. < 1337123668 495312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but an undefined punishment is arguably worse < 1337123668 994156 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't like puzzles where you have to know something to crack it < 1337123677 118082 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like rather crude brainfuck though < 1337123685 298524 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a full program for each letter of output < 1337123699 633993 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1337123704 296201 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt it < 1337123712 716386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio_: It is what I thought, too < 1337123719 188413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But perhaps not quite < 1337123741 366277 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should not have given such red herrings < 1337123744 641689 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my analysis < 1337123760 536784 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337123780 42604 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah okay so letters are really that short to produce based on the constants page on esolang < 1337123784 226761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe each code word is a program or something else but standalone, and put together. Either by letter, or by numbers... < 1337123795 642781 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :copypaste from there? < 1337123956 24975 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >++[<+++>-]>+..++. < 1337123956 81492 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1337123994 554489 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >++[<+++>-]<+..++. < 1337123994 572792 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1337124119 288056 :tiMMe!5f225dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.34.93.209 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1337124163 566684 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >++[<--->-]<-. < 1337124163 742467 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1337124179 840320 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/bD0E1vmr < 1337124194 407229 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the punishment for Haskell jokes shall be unspecified behavior < 1337124216 724779 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a haskell joke < 1337124266 112546 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's a C joke < 1337124280 234097 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf <++[>+++<-]>+..++. < 1337124280 252352 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1337124729 462047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337124745 549286 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Her finner du cachen: N 59 23.148 E 010 25.557 < 1337124757 94777 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >+++[<+++[<++++++++>-]>-]<<. < 1337124757 457336 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1337124795 693664 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay that's not from the constants page < 1337124799 148452 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a prick < 1337124802 76803 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337124810 293345 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :prick? < 1337124811 262175 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it wasn't codewords at all < 1337124829 566586 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the H gets everything prepared >.< < 1337124847 792174 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1337124874 141895 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have i still not made a programming language puzzle :( < 1337124899 861962 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a language half-made for it, but i never bothered to finish and publish it and it's gone now < 1337124912 422371 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a simple text replace. timme was right about R and U < 1337124940 158859 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the H he was right about everything < 1337124982 266080 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Her finner du cachen: N 59 23.148 E 010 25.557 :D < 1337125009 870713 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said that already, what's your point < 1337125034 716607 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :achtung du cachen < 1337125038 375490 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im.. < 1337125041 480303 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an asshole < 1337125049 206248 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are? < 1337125061 99652 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit < 1337125061 618448 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :die nyankatze! < 1337125064 722977 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/73/73315.jpg < 1337125097 460189 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww cute < 1337125237 882471 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"god is dead" -- nyankatze < 1337125281 919715 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thachaf < 1337125334 448746 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : :o < 1337126270 126086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337126902 168297 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337126905 571747 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1337126905 589952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337126924 334726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :network outage between router and the hop beyond that, rare to get one of those < 1337126947 993972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed the network was back up when adverts started showing again in my feed reader :) < 1337126989 913500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1337126990 44158 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337127023 894373 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You subscribe to ad feeds? :-) < 1337127035 712486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1337127035 845577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1337127038 643788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how else would ais523 find all the newest adverts? < 1337127089 727590 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott, what's your state today, and do you feel that your state graph is strongly connected < 1337127117 703561 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott < 1337127125 613128 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hall < 1337127130 570909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: absolutely < 1337127167 71105 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1337127187 152094 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is a tree and i'm way down it :( < 1337127218 87419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine's a line, I'm never in the same state twice < 1337127241 67120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mines dot < 1337127244 681175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im _|_ < 1337127248 719552 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheep < 1337127250 579129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Aristotle. < 1337127259 144031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(famous rap-metal guitarist) < 1337127266 74073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3000 bc - 1 ad) < 1337127310 200385 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus did _not_ like rap-metal. < 1337127335 276257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aristotle was actually jesus' brother < 1337127346 582168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a time travel accident. < 1337127350 372141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly he did not survive < 1337127351 872920 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :half-brother? < 1337127357 728309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, brother. < 1337127407 328414 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so mary did not have an intact hymen before jesus? < 1337127428 642334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say Aristotle was born first. < 1337127429 491119 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume he was jesus' big brother if he was born 3000 bc < 1337127430 880499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were no results matching the query .Create the page "Linux desktop zeitgeist" on this wiki! < 1337127434 658936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: like I said, time travel accident < 1337127437 736918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong search engine, I guess… < 1337127445 128505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks for the esolang name < 1337127446 492531 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i missed that line. < 1337127451 31081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that "remove newlines" button is really oddly bugged < 1337127454 740760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's what I thought :) < 1337127497 554216 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to censor the most important line, life is way too interesting otherwise. < 1337127650 523532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow is Zeitgeist really pretentious < 1337127665 464452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even realise that an activity logging daemon /could/ be pretentious… < 1337127743 625947 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the name "Zeitgeist" implies pretension. < 1337127799 35280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Element of Intelligence" < 1337127871 323735 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fulltext search that celebrates craftsmanship < 1337127951 603380 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337127955 56652 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337128034 543676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the example engravings on Apple products may be the most ridiculously pretentious and awful things ever. http://images.apple.com/v20120515091949/startpage/images/store-fdayipadengraving.png < 1337128385 79916 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not so much pretentious, as just plain horrible. < 1337128559 146860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cdn.macworld.co.uk/cmsdata/news/3245946/iPad_engraving.jpg < 1337128583 368862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AeaeRDQ8GKo/TB6623RDnXI/AAAAAAAAAVk/TTHtzj4QgpA/s1600/touch_fathersday_engrave.jpg < 1337128610 226213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually all Apple marketing material seems to take place in an alternate universe where everyone is rich and insufferable. < 1337128633 581523 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who buys their parents stuff < 1337128655 124730 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-91.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337128728 63852 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-139-15.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337128774 175223 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well perhaps something cheap and mainly symbolic like a... fucking iphone < 1337128778 115068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337128778 971737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dynamicaspects.org/blog/2012/05/15/back-to-the-future/ < 1337128787 80943 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever that thing is < 1337129110 323634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the local telephone number in my area for reporting scams on telephone? < 1337129130 423501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0800 419419 < 1337129156 433355 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337129166 283128 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Are they telephone scams? < 1337129175 698576 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337129229 874610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1337129292 399998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found it in the telephone book < 1337129304 38912 :trollstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net NICK :nisstyre < 1337129419 643784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now recorded the session I have played of Dungeons&Dragons game yesterday. It is of short duration so there isn't much to write. < 1337129599 363212 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337129911 73746 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337130137 971448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One online quiz system I wanted to review is one which I seem to remember was available on X-BIT, but X-BIT is gone now, and I don't know if there are other servers which it can be tried. < 1337131730 622203 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337131734 103676 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337132368 747853 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337133161 732394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's X-BIT? < 1337133341 666127 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337133648 11376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-BIT is some BBS I was on during year 2000, it is very good they had many interesting messages and good games I like including Word Nerd, Word Warp, and Wheel of Fortune < 1337133882 731436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337133957 285879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It seems to still exist to me. < 1337133968 463606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://x-bit.org/; the online client at http://x-bit.org/ftelnet/ connects just fine. < 1337134098 121043 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337134272 77765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they said it would stop. Anyways X-BIT is not HTTP-based service < 1337134308 747873 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, this X-BIT works now, same as before. I tried connect using HyperTerminal it works OK < 1337134326 427662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my account got deleted < 1337134441 55613 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is it worth using the new version of DF? < 1337134457 987791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by new version? DF2011 -> DF2012? < 1337134463 516782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, do I mean DF2010? < 1337134499 441061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean v0.34.08 which came out very recently < 1337134511 337703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, why not? Isn't it save-file compatible? < 1337134524 125644 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is sort of waiting for Lazy Newb Pack >.> < 1337134559 281742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen how unreadable the tilesets are? < 1337134592 906965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf Therapist and sometimes DFHack (usually to work around bugs) are sometimes useful, but the rest is junk, and Dwarf Therapist is available separately. < 1337134616 537302 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has DT even been updated yet? >.> < 1337134623 427285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1337134623 943062 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I'm lazy and just want an easy installer < 1337134628 142120 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1337134628 911503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was updated two days ago. < 1337134647 529881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/df_34_08_win.zip http://dwarftherapist.googlecode.com/files/DwarfTherapist-0.6.12.zip < 1337134697 783433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you don't need Dwarf Therapist for the beginning of a fortress, if you're really that lazy. < 1337134766 761892 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Lazy Newb Pack have keybindings to make laptop play easier? < 1337134784 625089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno, but I play on a laptop. < 1337134803 619879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the original keyboard I played it on technically has a number pad. But I never use it, and the rest of the keys are laid out like a laptop. < 1337134812 439598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really see what you'd have problems with using a laptop keyboard. < 1337134832 463860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like there's a penalty for using the arrow keys to move diagonally like there is in roguelikes :P < 1337136678 390110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337136678 907820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337136679 424407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337136680 504694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337136682 919349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is it 4 or 5? < 1337136685 398497 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :641) It's a bit like a regular monowheel, except when you brake too hard, instead of you going around and around inside the wheel, the (1100lb) wheel rolls over you. < 1337136688 859473 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :788) I swear my dreams are becoming increasingly rave + computer science oriented < 1337136696 649132 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :628) Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love < 1337136697 805213 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :732) Here in Scotland we have a rigorous and well-tested theory of brothels. < 1337136736 117764 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 or 5 until wat? < 1337136749 618783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 or 5 quotes. < 1337136757 234369 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :until wat? < 1337136860 276805 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's 5. < 1337136875 889211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is it 5? < 1337136886 647597 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337136944 556914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is it 4? < 1337136951 748705 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No. < 1337136969 64142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it? < 1337136978 729187 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't. < 1337137069 256501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1337137171 624952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 5 < 1337137176 271926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337137178 681287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's your fifth < 1337137179 449352 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :826) it's funny what is gay right c*** < 1337137333 261197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I paid for X-BIT service and they said it lasts for the entire lifetime, but since my account got deleted I do not have that. < 1337137418 424720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 826? < 1337137428 829710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah okay. < 1337137430 553061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 826 < 1337137431 790349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :628 is probably next-worst but it's much better < 1337137434 249597 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* it's funny what is gay right c*** < 1337137660 799998 :AerosolProphet!~aerosol@173-30-250-43.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337137688 239206 :AerosolProphet!~aerosol@173-30-250-43.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,1 < 1337137712 978173 :AerosolProphet!~aerosol@173-30-250-43.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION greets < 1337137835 704832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome AerosolProphet < 1337137838 479981 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :AerosolProphet: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337138000 214044 :JeremyS!~jeremy@pool-74-106-77-55.spfdma.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337138123 449971 :JeremyS!~jeremy@pool-74-106-77-55.spfdma.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, is anyone interested in giving feedback on a cross-platform brainfuck Debugger/Editor I've just written? < 1337138329 575390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1337138333 793903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome JeremyS < 1337138337 199662 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :JeremyS: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337138369 63088 :AerosolProphet!~aerosol@173-30-250-43.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can this brainfuck debugger be found? < 1337138504 711736 :JeremyS!~jeremy@pool-74-106-77-55.spfdma.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://code.google.com/p/wxbfide < 1337138532 878174 :AerosolProphet!~aerosol@173-30-250-43.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kool. I'll check it out. < 1337138543 677022 :JeremyS!~jeremy@pool-74-106-77-55.spfdma.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll package up a tarball if you don't like svn. < 1337138546 860920 :JeremyS!~jeremy@pool-74-106-77-55.spfdma.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's wxwidgets < 1337138575 215851 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-144-90.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337138578 227915 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-91.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337138688 41816 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337138711 291477 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337138825 217141 :AerosolProphet!~aerosol@173-30-250-43.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. SVN works < 1337138940 365325 :JeremyS!~jeremy@pool-74-106-77-55.spfdma.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it also uses Codeblocks to build I realize. Do you want a Makefile instead? < 1337138975 464720 :AerosolProphet!~aerosol@173-30-250-43.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im not familiar with CodeBlocks. < 1337138993 918634 :AerosolProphet!~aerosol@173-30-250-43.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, probably < 1337139045 231901 :JeremyS!~jeremy@pool-74-106-77-55.spfdma.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I'll upload it to svn < 1337139278 62715 :JeremyS!~jeremy@pool-74-106-77-55.spfdma.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AerosolProphet: Okay, done < 1337139667 903508 :AerosolProphet!~aerosol@173-30-250-43.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. Brb < 1337139760 109967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337140060 779393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have recreated X-BIT account. Now I can access FidoNet, Word Warp game, etc. Currently I am using HyperTerminal to connect since it is what I used before, but I may configure PuTTY to work with it, or something else related too < 1337140313 78013 :AerosolProphet!~aerosol@173-30-250-43.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1337140923 267481 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337142074 768425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What light bulb? < 1337142198 73496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337142198 399606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no light bulb < 1337142218 845782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337142682 314997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337144213 3608 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1337146645 29609 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I just go ahead and watch captnduck < 1337146667 197193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no just < 1337146668 94581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :play df < 1337146669 647266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really easy < 1337146679 89924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want play a succession fortress so you can skip the earlygame < 1337146684 350604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb is good at getting fortresses started < 1337146703 281001 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'd get the fortress killed < 1337146725 426867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlikely < 1337146730 718657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortresses tend to stay alive unless goblins < 1337146738 123973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or unless you build something and mess it up < 1337146754 241480 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if DF bores me? < 1337146762 45655 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I like reading DF stories more than playing DF < 1337146794 882699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then don't play df < 1337147691 674585 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hi < 1337148084 209937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337148794 20789 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-144-90.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337148797 287668 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-124.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337149310 347711 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I can make up a program to printout the quiz files in Internet Quiz Engine, by converting to TeX and then DVI and then whatever format the printer accepts (such as PCL). But it would try to guess one of many possible "modes" it is in to determine the best layout for printing, and you can override that and other options if you want to do so. < 1337149454 649923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can also try to ask them to put Internet Quiz Engine on X-BIT as well. < 1337150322 553810 :JeremyS!~jeremy@pool-74-106-77-55.spfdma.east.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337150366 249284 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: Are there any moderators in here? [Ouch] < 1337151048 960604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Jeff Atwood seems to have trolled a sizeable proportion of programmers on the internet recently < 1337151055 394688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if he meant to or if he was being serious < 1337151142 251213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now you're helping him troll #esoteric? :P < 1337151173 779881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure :) < 1337151444 590526 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kmc googled for Quotron, came up with this: http://pcridesagain.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/theguts.jpg < 1337151444 719453 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337154315 18651 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337154485 850580 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: you could always pick a succession fortress in progress, and then... just play it locally and not post about it < 1337154660 535782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Isn't that a tautology? Most tautologies are. < 1337154795 865081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1337154895 267585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worth quoting in #esoteric /as well as/ upvoting < 1337154907 37616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337154909 110589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337154910 490531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337154912 40714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337154913 590084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337154928 38195 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :242) [...] reyouthismootherate [...] < 1337154939 530283 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :682) It's like single player Hackiki in a way(?) Ngevd: yes, but with multiple players. < 1337154941 32720 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :745) i think i'll just take the usual route and go do post doc research somewhere far away and never come back and become a drug lord and kill myself < 1337154941 757303 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :531) (Enigma is two games; one is solving Enigma puzzles, the other is working out how to represent things as Enigma puzzles, preferably with the minimal amount of lua and player-hidden information possible) < 1337154941 868748 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :288) My penis is definitely way smaller than that. < 1337154978 410786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, 531 is mostly simply factual rather than amusing, which makes it weird why it got quoted < 1337154983 796023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless there's some hidden meaning there I missed < 1337154997 110602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd delete that one out of the five < 1337154998 705322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott? < 1337155007 31707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o hhm what i hi < 1337155009 276728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hmm < 1337155020 514426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :288 is crap < 1337155032 23929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :531 is better, even if it's bad < 1337155034 609373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 288 < 1337155038 782378 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* My penis is definitely way smaller than that. < 1337155058 26163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337155058 537747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337155059 53209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337155059 915171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337155061 896715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337155072 147912 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :487) aibohphobia The fear of palindromes < 1337155075 342836 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :765) oh right: Frooxius, you wouldn't happen to live in Hexham, would you? No, sorry. phew How about Finland? Why would I live there? That's a *very* good question. Why would anyone? < 1337155086 921019 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :281) Why do you want to have sex in everything? I don't want. < 1337155087 364003 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :449) The zipWith Camel, a famous World War 1 era airplane. < 1337155089 113179 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :767) There.... is a box of Gardasil next to the butter in my fridge. At least my sandwich will be immune to cervical cancer *and* genital warts, I suppose. < 1337155104 319299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :487 is unoriginal; 449 is a bit meh < 1337155112 577112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :767 is pretty hilarious < 1337155124 299247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :765 is good too < 1337155128 856894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337155134 279890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 281 is in between < 1337155144 85444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd delete 281 < 1337155147 535585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only funny because of the grammar < 1337155152 194420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337155156 264883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, 487 < 1337155157 173204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because of the sentiment expressed too < 1337155158 553290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it really is unoriginal < 1337155162 597594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 487 < 1337155163 289630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen it before < 1337155165 862761 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* aibohphobia The fear of palindromes < 1337155168 284698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well before #esoteric < 1337155173 457542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have been reinvented < 1337155179 70735 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is a bit of an ailihphiliac, so he knows these things < 1337155203 509735 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps ailihphile is how it would actually work < 1337155206 141841 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it < 1337155206 852939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiktionary says it dates from at least 1983 < 1337155219 12922 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does posterous suck so much < 1337155219 834389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elihphile, surely? < 1337155221 738872 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone tell me < 1337155243 679035 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my aigahphagia is getting so bad i cannot eat foods without an axis of symmetry anymore < 1337155245 624478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: does it have anything to do with the topic of the channel, or the current conversation? < 1337155273 843760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a state of having no palindromes is being sselless < 1337155296 213728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something having lots of palindromicity means it's lufful < 1337155300 519235 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: irc is not a colliding medium, a channel can have multiple conversations in parallel < 1337155313 711750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: a conversation requires multiple people who actually want to take part in it < 1337155320 958814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thus the "topic of the channel" clause) < 1337155325 614871 :qfr`!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf JOIN :#esoteric < 1337155336 350658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some hostname < 1337155345 315098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.gf? < 1337155359 638437 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :french guiana < 1337155359 839595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look like an actually real hostname < 1337155368 685332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it is < 1337155370 229787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just no HTTP < 1337155385 465871 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337155388 58434 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :your question was phrased as an or clause, which implied you were only asking about the one or the other. so, yes, the question is related to the conversation it is part of. < 1337155388 797448 :qfr`!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf NICK :qfr < 1337155402 984828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ curl 'http://death.to.religion.info.gf/' < 1337155403 3029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1337155403 3301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :403 Forbidden < 1337155419 49122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's IPv6-only, though. < 1337155419 223495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: that's not what "current conversation" means, and you're misinterpreting me deliberately < 1337155444 55287 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i am just saying there is no "current conversation" in a medium that can hold multiple conversations < 1337155456 659003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is if it's only holding one conversation at the time < 1337155465 656474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and often there's a current main conversation as well as side conversations < 1337155495 230330 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337155497 795361 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think what you want is a mailing list where conversations are clearly demarcated by reply chains < 1337155510 144887 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can work better to isolate conversations imo < 1337155546 905364 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck the time just changed on its own when i wasn't looking o_O < 1337155553 598912 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sur fucking real < 1337155588 410428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: no, that's what /you/ want, apparently, and you're trying to derail the channel into something useless /again/ < 1337155603 437874 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'm not < 1337155610 402006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you are < 1337155661 722441 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: "no i'm not" is not even a palindrome, shame on you! < 1337155672 688240 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :blogging is an important part of being able to publish pertinent knowledge, such as for example programming language information. i was hoping someone could suggest a better platform for it. how is that useless < 1337155692 326270 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you just want to aggravate this because you don't like me < 1337155699 206020 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'll just stop talking about this < 1337155705 254587 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :ais523 > 1337155705 761801 NAMES :#esoteric < 1337155717 312465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not just me, you've driven quite a few people from the channel already < 1337155720 339418 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-124.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337155723 829332 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not true < 1337155731 657774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is true, I've been taking surveys < 1337155733 474002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :manifestly true, actually < 1337155741 637459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I'm one of them < 1337155741 981983 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, they leave because they don't like me < 1337155746 535098 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, look at kmc's reaction < 1337155757 820547 :cheater_!~cheater@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he specifically said that if i come in and talk about just anything, people flip out < 1337155762 896739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de > 1337155762 919849 NAMES :#esoteric < 1337155774 247349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 KICK #esoteric cheater_ :repeatedly deliberately missing the point < 1337155818 424320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric -o :ais523 > 1337155818 449144 NAMES :#esoteric < 1337155827 969202 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cheater_ um, they leave because they don't like me" who thinks this is reason enough on a channel this size? i can't quite figure out my opinion. < 1337155907 681043 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well anyway gotta go to work to work < 1337156226 842637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I should get around to installing and on Esolang < 1337156425 708366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :going back to the conversation we were at before this distraction: I guess something that's full of palindromes is luful < 1337156503 896653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plagiarist! < 1337156520 474178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:01 something having lots of palindromicity means it's lufful < 1337156536 172069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed that < 1337156548 613264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was 20 minutes ago and above the fold, so you can't expect me to remember < 1337156550 855961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who studies primes is a tsigolologist < 1337156558 447470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tsi" is like "psi" < 1337156559 867624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*palindromes? < 1337156560 764889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with ts < 1337156563 519513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: err, eys < 1337156564 724230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yes < 1337156565 588679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing < 1337156577 127562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that sounds like "psycholologist" < 1337156630 134221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who manufactures palindromes is a htimsmith? < 1337156651 618803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the opposite of a palindrome is unnu < 1337156705 7054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and something that used to be a palindrome but isn't any more is ex-xe < 1337156718 355314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that isn't a palindrome is a nonon < 1337156745 461777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone prejudiced against palindromes is a tsist < 1337156748 606583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the adjective is quite different from the noun in this case :) < 1337156785 849893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :msism < 1337156795 915474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that's like a palindrome but not quite is y < 1337156811 565144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do i win) < 1337156816 324575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one made me laugh < 1337156821 294685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, hsish < 1337156896 624873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a ekila-alike < 1337156898 612637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an < 1337156932 17894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the IRC channel for discussing palindromes is ## (also the Twitter hashtag) < 1337157013 550115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:30 Topic: Welcome to the two hash channel, also known as ##, or nameless "about" channel. < 1337157015 141545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks freenode < 1337157060 236661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually exists? < 1337157064 285576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed it'd be some sort of error < 1337157074 769656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering what it's about < 1337157078 667011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all of them up to like 16 hashes exist < 1337157088 971701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's either about nothing, or the official channel for something called # < 1337157111 120917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would explain why it's quiet < 1337157114 992753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably also why Sgeo is there < 1337157129 507633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and given that he isn't obviously online right now, perhaps he idles there rather than joining just because it was mentioned) < 1337157148 987760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this vision of sgeo's client's channel list just filled with < 1337157149 504545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1337157150 147621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :## < 1337157151 56030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1337157152 945606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#### < 1337157155 13819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1337157197 788301 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, I could be lurking in here. < 1337157205 967389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which? < 1337157208 969169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's impossible < 1337157217 903729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it could be both! < 1337157223 238230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something which might or might not be a palindrome is a maybebyam < 1337157224 268914 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I joined just because it was mentioned. < 1337157231 205742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: indeed, but that's even more unlikely < 1337157239 387810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: since when can you prepend "maybe" to words? < 1337157243 405668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This sure is maybegreat!" < 1337157261 565857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: since Haskell < 1337157272 197782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that fulfils some, but not all of the laws of palindromes, is quasisauq < 1337157276 208264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people know what it means anyway, therefore it's a rule < 1337157289 482505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quasisaqu < 1337157296 608627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337157300 156188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what? < 1337157304 886992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a palindrome < 1337157305 920773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337157308 675585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337157309 535979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337157310 569246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337157311 614114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337157312 821356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337157314 891092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1337157316 835106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337157407 660166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no such thing as a free alligator helmet < 1337157426 293968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... not a palindrome < 1337157439 465115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of other things it isn't too < 1337157452 91403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what isn't it not? < 1337157468 361090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a somewhat mutated meme? < 1337157476 992718 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a palindrome that goes viral is a mememem, btw) < 1337157501 846366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the meme something other than "... free lunch"? < 1337157533 120641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337157541 266462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "there is no such thing as a free lunch" is the full meme < 1337157545 952302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1337157552 994507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "there ain't" < 1337157559 450066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, I think it's more correct as "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch" < 1337157577 627201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "ain't" means "have not" so that sentence isn't correct < 1337157606 57902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's perfectly correct < 1337157616 709988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :double negation is weird in natural language < 1337157643 546098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be "isn't" not "ain't" to be correct < 1337157657 441834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, wait, what? < 1337157662 299083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337157665 188444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ain't" is a perfectly valid way to say "isn't" < 1337157680 361085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there ain't" ~ "there isn't" < 1337157688 52897 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ai = is < 1337157700 863592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I ain't got a car"? < 1337157702 928151 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1337157706 369107 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ain't" ain't incorrect, it just ain't formal. < 1337157717 713002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's just a generalised negated contraction < 1337157727 882471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it stands for multiple things < 1337157736 815460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is not, am not, haven't, etc. < 1337157739 847582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we need a sentence where "hasn't" and "isn't" both fit < 1337157750 66662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :English does need an amn't, perhaps ain't is meant to fill that gap < 1337157859 705435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he once learnt that ain't is everything mushed together < 1337157871 986044 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Good approximation. < 1337157892 886440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: He hasn't a clue; he isn't a clue. (The latter in the context of a private detective story or something.) < 1337157906 673627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well done < 1337157929 973623 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "he ain't a clue" actually works for both meanings. < 1337157941 310514 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though without context I'm defaulting to the "isn't" interpretation... < 1337157970 598687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm not sure you can use ain't for a non-auxiliary "have"? < 1337158114 501577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, ain't would always mean "haven't" in context < 1337158128 915061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still. < 1337158145 706325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not modifying any other verb. < 1337158164 196021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what you mean, hten < 1337158165 236189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1337158168 544190 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd sound *weird* from some speakers, but from others it'd work just fine. < 1337158193 150927 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, just the thought of "ain't" coming from an RP speaker gives me the giggles. < 1337158211 129612 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find "once upon a time" to be a really bizzare idiom < 1337158229 891004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we _ain't_ amused < 1337158289 276617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: lots of languages have formulaic fairy tale introduction idioms < 1337158308 524625 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they make equally little sense gramattically? < 1337158320 56882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian's "det var en gang" sadly makes sense in context < 1337158338 743943 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "upon a time" which really throws me < 1337158353 954031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it just means "there was once") < 1337158364 542225 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mukashi mukashi" (Japanese) is kinda weird. < 1337158379 698539 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mukashi" is a word meaning approx. "a long time ago". < 1337158389 138970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternative fairytale openings: "OK, so" "It's kind of a long story, but" "Listen up, bitches:" < 1337158393 741723 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why repeating it turns it into a fairly tale introduction, I dunno. < 1337158409 538508 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A long time ago, a long time ago:" < 1337158410 262372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it is still idiomatic: it wouldn't fit in any other context) < 1337158410 740752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "There was once" is done in English too, I think < 1337158420 219588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: in a galaxy far away, in a galaxy far away < 1337158440 156117 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, to give you a better sense of how weird that is: < 1337158442 783871 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ago, ago:" < 1337158484 540040 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll just accept that it goes in with all the other word-repetitions-that-make-for-different-meanings, then. < 1337158505 693173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls there was one which meant something like "there was and there wasn't" < 1337158515 124893 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "toki" (time) -> "tokidoki" (sometimes) < 1337158527 703562 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "iro" (color) -> "iroiro" (various) < 1337158540 811569 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still friggn' weird. < 1337158575 631871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly recalls "Det hendte i de dager da Vårherre vandret omkring på jorden" which is used for _religious_ fables < 1337158585 844715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that translate as? < 1337158606 612358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happened in those days when our Lord walked about on the earth < 1337158621 472158 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_upon_a_time -- surprisingly helpful < 1337158634 857479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/those/the/ < 1337158659 287020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Whistle, whistle, the story is done" < 1337158661 606629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a shitty ending. < 1337158670 656542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'...and three days they ate, drunk and had fun." < 1337158674 355110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better. < 1337158678 444259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and with a dog and a cat, the tale is finished" what < 1337158682 925032 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the end" < 1337158685 229770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^""/"/ < 1337158695 860868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'...and they lived happily until they died.' '...and if they have not died yet, they still live there today.' < 1337158717 937192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'And then came a pig with a long snout, and the story is out (over).' WHAT < 1337158719 320708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the length of it. < 1337158732 334782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, I just reached that one < 1337158746 576120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Disaster there, feast here... bran there, flour here..." Wow, what kind of ending is that? < 1337158763 488603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There was, and there was not, there was..." Or a beginning. Georgian, explain yourself??? < 1337158779 398718 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'And if they're not dead, they still live.' < 1337158787 20828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'So blissful' -- good ending. < 1337158788 911614 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congrats, Danish. < 1337158792 396104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And I was there, drank some mead ale, dribbled through my beard, had not in my mouth" < 1337158793 257225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1337158804 379581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these have to be fake < 1337158829 296971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snip, snap, snout: then this adventure is finished. What's it with snouts? < 1337158836 916968 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The Japanese ending I've never seen, but it at least doesn't seem like *obvious* bullshit. < 1337158880 530549 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, it's accurate. < 1337158895 68244 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the translation seems off. < 1337159007 646158 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"めでたし" is a conjugation of 愛でる, defined as "美しさを味わい感動する。"... Something like "lovely", "wonderful", then. < 1337159029 70591 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea where "blissful" came from. < 1337159040 208703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337159104 357433 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Greek ending is pretty amusing < 1337159123 44946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I found your terminal. < 1337159123 174528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337159137 746048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, that /is/ good < 1337160774 745591 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-203.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337160789 197390 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-198.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337160822 18234 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337160932 763083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1337161419 229663 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-226-67.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337161458 194403 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-203.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337162064 689057 :qfr!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf QUIT :Changing host < 1337162064 707351 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw JOIN :#esoteric < 1337162249 751776 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-228.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337162468 537763 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8AFD0.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337162638 667612 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-228.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337162800 109485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1337162890 187213 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-228.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never did write the specs for Dilston, did I? < 1337162900 913732 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-228.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't get it to be not-turing complete < 1337162979 468242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to make things sub-TC. < 1337163000 510200 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-228.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want it to be sub-TC, I want it to be maybe TC in a certain way < 1337163010 634783 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337163022 359784 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-228.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, iff a non-trivial loop occurs in some collatz (hailstone) sequence < 1337163356 554197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1337163653 252865 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337163813 807692 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-228.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337163870 46540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337164112 836853 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1337164138 682548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The relational database model is one of the very few things in the entire history of the computer industry where we actually got things right, up front, instead of just endlessly duct taping hack over hack." < 1337164151 620979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, I'm a reddit commenter! I have literally never seen SQL. < 1337164164 50532 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, SQL < 1337164233 873701 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( google:SQL::windows:unix ) < 1337164358 268163 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found for "google:SQL::windows:unix". < 1337164575 247155 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i didn't post the last 2 lines. < 1337164617 425534 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Originally based upon relational algebra and tuple relational calculus," wow.. even SQL is based on algebra and calculus < 1337164766 806303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSVO algebra; calculus. < 1337164911 317441 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one of the very few things in the entire history of the computer industry" so many compliments are based on fallacies. < 1337164935 526306 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i would have believed him if i didn't read "I have literally never seen SQL." < 1337165221 252344 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't SQL just a thin layer over the underlying concept though? < 1337165336 456161 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking game would be take a drink every time the word relation, calculus or algebra appears in this wikipedia reference of the above quote: http://www.dbdebunk.com/page/page/1897740.htm < 1337165436 174292 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :related http://technology.amis.nl/2009/10/13/oracle-rdbms-11gr2-solving-a-sudoku-using-recursive-subquery-factoring/ < 1337165570 880522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's great < 1337165767 499300 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" how ever this dosent resolve all the sudoku types ..maybe just the easy ones." this guys dreams are crushed < 1337165801 506350 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337165900 273487 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337165927 166923 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337166141 841367 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1337167487 806483 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1337167487 877498 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1337167504 383325 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm merely almost gone, it seems < 1337167772 499281 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott < 1337167775 423854 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my ghosts finally killed someone < 1337167778 615877 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1337167778 789060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1337167779 173119 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1337167779 344583 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /| < 1337167780 550710 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lg * killer=~patashu -tv < 1337167795 693016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't ##crawl, that won't work :P < 1337167879 21800 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337168095 39231 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1337168121 306205 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :another hermetic game? < 1337168182 219715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hermetic"? < 1337168238 665721 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lg * killer=~patashu -tv < 1337168239 819377 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't ##crawl! < 1337168243 462146 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect... < 1337168248 825502 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetics < 1337168250 935353 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :;d < 1337168277 803612 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word "esoteric" is used in that article! < 1337168280 164298 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's relevant < 1337168295 628989 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it is < 1337168430 442239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what "hermetic" means. < 1337168448 614170 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337168462 939103 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why ask? < 1337168475 581990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was inquiring as to its specific relevance in your question. < 1337168486 228564 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337168522 962735 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1337168622 397818 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was ust curious, because every time i come back here after a while, i see some brand new stuff you're all playing with < 1337168646 587128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a game, it might be the same one as last time, if it was within the past few weeks. < 1337168657 734987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Crawl.) < 1337168663 76457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you mean Minecraft :P < 1337168749 245849 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :minecraft isn't hermetic at all < 1337168766 832247 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and crawl is... < 1337168768 383259 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1337168770 836014 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :roguelike? < 1337168775 185726 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337168781 245752 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1337168829 439677 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw. seen Brogue? < 1337168897 528075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337168908 334220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very pretty < 1337168910 227029 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's fun < 1337168920 640201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quite fun, although I haven't played it too much yet < 1337168923 141415 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite casual but still entertaining < 1337168979 144785 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337169003 402050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl isn't very casual at all, but it's quite entertaining < 1337169003 912143 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when ais523 got almost addicted to Dredmor? < 1337169082 250945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"almost" < 1337169249 475080 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337169270 270963 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can play crawl casually < 1337169276 871600 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only need to know tab, o and i < 1337169306 865868 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait should I tell APT Guy to tell McBride to hurry the fuck up with Epigram 2 or is that no longer relevant? < 1337169307 27234 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337169325 419266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i isn't strictly necessary < 1337169334 637408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's like telling ais523 to hurry up with Feather. < 1337169340 126451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It accomplishes nothing. < 1337169347 620417 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH BUT < 1337169354 666057 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are not ais523's students. < 1337169359 965620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337169360 654458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are. < 1337169444 691575 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are all doing computer science at Birmingham university < 1337169493 173211 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait is ais not in manchester < 1337169507 480552 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is definitely Birmingham < 1337169509 670573 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does this mac suck so much < 1337169524 737195 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's actually a dyson < 1337169530 801222 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have apple decided that because something works on a phone it must work on a desktop < 1337169541 66306 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because windows and ubuntu agree < 1337169547 850226 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*microsoft and canonical < 1337169596 19948 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an answer for everything < 1337169651 350586 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok lets just stab everyone < 1337169678 78266 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be a bad idea < 1337169681 758112 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also slightly illegal < 1337169697 830322 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you're in Edinburgh, and Edinburgh =/= Glasgow < 1337169701 110566 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that! < 1337169714 763379 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god you're right < 1337169718 982418 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT HAVE I BECOME < 1337169726 277522 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the answer is 'a glaswegian') < 1337169733 156575 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Glasw-- dammit < 1337169733 752111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote glasgow < 1337169736 785698 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :512) Riots in Glasgow would probably be reported as a sudden drop in crime. \ 679) No you can't fight crime in Glasgow. It's like trying to get rid of the space-time continuum. < 1337169759 762751 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words of wisdom, there. < 1337169788 829770 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote breakfast < 1337169791 664465 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :474) Non sequitur is my forte On-topic discussion is my piano Bowls of sugary breakfast cereal is my mezzoforte Full fat milk is my pianissimo On which note, I'm hungry \ 496) I combined the wholegrain breakfast and chocolatey breakfast for maximum breakfast efficiency \ 767) elliott: to be honest, it doesn't exist in a state of almost perpetual < 1337169805 725916 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 767 < 1337169808 510391 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :767) elliott: to be honest, it doesn't exist in a state of almost perpetual stalemate, and expands to a larger board and more exotic collection of what he refers to as a thermal hull, instead of some kind of clock pun. no, dammit, will this breakfast injure his shrill, bearded, scraggly old men in space. jade's radioactive, omnipotent, space-warping dog named... < 1337169816 821404 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1337169817 326891 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1337169847 933304 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought that would continue as "a state of almost perpetual breakfast". < 1337169865 733519 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But alas, it doesn't < 1337169944 167007 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote octopus < 1337169946 991165 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :217) Invent the game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) \ 248) ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could make modified picture, though, in order to lie more clearly, at least. < 1337169974 192403 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should invent those some day. < 1337169982 263434 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea: a Fungot style based on the quotes < 1337170000 231553 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1337170130 139538 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how more than 8% of this channel is bots < 1337170152 829502 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10% if you count myndzi < 1337170172 896826 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12% if you count elliott < 1337170178 877131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337170189 987442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There aren't enough quotes to be a decent fungot style, I think. < 1337170191 14013 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: seems to be absent, just build a lazy stream in the sense of " i am xenu" and tell them that < 1337170207 903484 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because you keep deleting them < 1337170218 191131 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if we incorporate bash.org < 1337170220 520523 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1337170220 628776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Berengal says: data Neither a b = Left | Right < 1337170222 409403 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that < 1337170222 641057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep deleting the crappy ones. < 1337170234 868603 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help quote < 1337170234 967791 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote < 1337170235 41809 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember < 1337170235 60069 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote somebody, a random person, or save a memorable quote < 1337170339 755121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Aw, that sucks." -GOD < 1337170426 131127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote tortoise < 1337170428 848910 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1337170429 922636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote acid < 1337170432 944003 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :274) Lymia: I put big spider in my bed already. So if you have no more left you do not have to worry about it anymore. You can just take a cold shower or hot acid or whatever you want to, instead. < 1337170433 578152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote super < 1337170436 588929 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :579) THERE WAS A VISIBLE SUPERNOVA AND NOBODY FUCKING TOLD ME??????????????????????????/ \ 640) Real Tar is GNU tar. You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. < 1337170437 23835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ignorance < 1337170440 820634 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :619) sadhu: it's been said that boole is the crowning jewel perched precariously upon the perfect peak of programmer prowess, casting its limitless limpid light over the loathesome lands of those who scuff and wallow in the dreary dust of digital depravity and unbounded wilful ignorance of the testament of our lord jesus christ into your life. < 1337170441 263880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote no < 1337170444 912418 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :9) Lil`Cube: you had cavity searches? not yet trying to thou, just so I can check it off on my list of things to expirence \ 12) GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 14) First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. Second, you know the rest. \ 28) ehird: There is no h in "honour" \ 30) pikhq: A lunar < 1337170478 641759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Do you have an opinion on the quote identifier issue? < 1337170654 216590 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which quote identifier issue? < 1337170801 58974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, you know how deleting quotes changes the numbers of other ones? < 1337170814 923630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sucks. It would be nice to have a better means by which to identify quotes. < 1337170856 455040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some options are: persistent integers (quote identifiers are never reused, and gaps are allowed; this is what the old quote system did); timestamps; prefixes of cryptographic hashes; and the text of the quotes themselves. < 1337170902 759138 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd go for a combo of the current system and persistent integers, which on thinking about it wouldn't work at all < 1337170920 997015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What combo, out of curiosity? < 1337170933 290169 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each quote gets two numbers < 1337170947 126422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds confusing :) < 1337170948 485082 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One permanent, one temporary < 1337170967 702783 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't work, though < 1337170994 316309 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'd interfere with each-other like an unobserved photon and itself < 1337171039 456719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo (2012-05-16T13:23:44) Abc def quux. < 1337171041 769826 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(2012-05-16T13:23:44) Abc def quux. < 1337171047 611852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's a pain to copy here. < 1337171051 400602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Does that select as one word for you? < 1337171070 199927 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't grab the brackets < 1337171082 203894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, that's intended behaviour. Not so for me. < 1337171098 690502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo (ac62d173) How about this? < 1337171101 454592 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(ac62d173) How about this? < 1337171126 217937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, aesthetically.) < 1337171148 288421 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like a jumbled mess < 1337171162 32854 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could work < 1337171296 419478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1337171307 817319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo (20120516T132344) Abc def quux. < 1337171310 187183 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(20120516T132344) Abc def quux. < 1337171315 211019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, that's just so ugly though. < 1337171321 435753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hash is nicer. But even that's suboptimal. < 1337171339 86578 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337171351 534583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Phantom_Hoover. Do you have an opinion on the quote identifier issue? < 1337171352 922969 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, does it break on the hyphendashes, or the colons, or both? < 1337171361 283774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Both. < 1337171369 946369 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1337171374 810800 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously quotes should be allowed in identifiers. < 1337171378 481374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I love you for "hyphendashes".) < 1337171386 196517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But it's "HYPHEN-MINUS".) < 1337171399 175135 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would we outlaw the classic int to_be_or_not_to_be? < 1337171402 607478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyphenminogrives. < 1337171404 27413 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Dammit, I knew it was two of them, but which one) < 1337171420 434016 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or veniVidiVici :: IO Bool? < 1337171454 569126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO -GOD < 1337171525 184567 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = do {x <- veniVidiVici; if x then return () else putStrLn "alea iacta est" >> main} < 1337171577 310910 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :Lumpio- < 1337171748 795236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But seriously. :'( < 1337171779 227121 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously you should be allowed to have quotes in identifiers, otherwise Haskellers couldn't pretend to be mathematicians < 1337171779 245203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337171783 59689 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooooooooooo < 1337171795 570941 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my wicker burn!!! < 1337171798 325818 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :em < 1337171809 11022 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wicke-- OK that's too entertaining to correct. < 1337171854 664570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337171869 331299 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :check logs for wicker burn < 1337171950 217572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yubnjkm , < 1337171964 930234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:36:19: Obviously you should be allowed to have quotes in identifiers, otherwise Haskellers couldn't pretend to be mathematicians < 1337171969 160198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: one day im punch you < 1337171978 987306 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337171987 100222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: let's punch Phantom_Hoover < 1337171989 909492 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha but how can you punch hoover < 1337171996 626712 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your fist will just get hoovered < 1337172025 618651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill punch from inside the bag < 1337172074 585430 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bag is reinforced anti-punch bag < 1337172126 954006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my punch sis too scrtorng < 1337172133 345549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-GOD < 1337172198 78344 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could just take him to Glasgow < 1337172204 936614 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And let the natives deal with him < 1337172225 31188 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(People from Hexham are immune to Glasgow. We even have a train that goes there) < 1337172229 844291 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO that is INHUMANE < 1337172263 418009 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says the ghostly vacuum cleaner < 1337172302 128775 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait yes you ALSO cannot punch me unless your fists are DRENCHED IN HOLY WATER < 1337172308 61075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I like the way you think. Yr promoted. < 1337172347 489480 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'm technically possibly catholic. I have access to Holy Water. < 1337172469 943410 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My cousin was astonished that I haven't been confirmed. < 1337172474 496191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1337172479 774133 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither have I < 1337172485 249147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just so Catholic, Phantom_Hoover! < 1337172532 577723 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears Misfile is doing a Christmas arc < 1337172594 204356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337173080 708582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337173948 187907 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337176780 783769 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait doesn't everyone have access to holy water? < 1337176797 945929 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can buy it at gift shops at pligrimage sites. < 1337176804 896370 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pilgrimage < 1337176929 493439 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> < 1337176930 330148 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<< < 1337176935 776618 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alongside pheromones < 1337176945 365429 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Hexham a pilgrimage site? < 1337176950 173889 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T THINK SO < 1337176961 549798 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is for monks of esolang < 1337176975 795153 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just head for Ireland, it's not that far. < 1337176982 805201 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lindesfarne's closer < 1337177003 255963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I *am* Ireland on toast. < 1337177011 700236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*You're* the angel fraud, right? House. < 1337177018 594269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Exoskeleton*, y'all. < 1337177030 8654 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it pains me to want to use the words monks of esolang when i am not really < 1337177031 42681 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are all happy *campers*! < 1337177038 828327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo the *excellent minister* for Olympics! < 1337177048 638736 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337177074 662721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supremum is like and *what's* effervescent? < 1337177101 769358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Are *you* OK? < 1337177122 443111 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is not one *bubble*. < 1337177128 207286 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is many *fingers*. < 1337177149 161054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It's okay to *burn* without fumes. < 1337177180 993716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm *dead* porcupine. < 1337177224 454141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, shucks, *gargoyles*. I'm business endeavour. < 1337177342 562354 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever i try to use some "filter" on my next chat post, i find a reluctance form to post anything meaningful or substantial < 1337177378 680458 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :filter in this sense being something like put * around a random word < 1337177403 298986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337177403 648209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337177404 336578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337177405 201519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337177407 302581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337177412 661941 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :162) It's like mathematicians, where the next step up from "trivial" is "open research question". "Nope... No...This problem can't be done AT ALL. This one--maybe, but only with two yaks and a sherpa. ..." < 1337177415 404911 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :838) i saw Godspeed You! Black Emperor live it is hard to tell when the soundcheck ends and the set begins < 1337177417 619270 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :768) the possession of diamonds by the bourgeois is more about establishing their bourgeoisness more than wanting a malleable metal oops i forgot i said diamonds instead of gold < 1337177420 683378 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :505) You realise the micromanagement it took to make quintopia encrust my silver throne with emeralds rather than a jug? < 1337177425 313169 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :641) But wait what if I'm using a quantum computer <-- there is "quantum entropy". it's the same except no one understands it. < 1337177473 688903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :768 or 505, I think. < 1337177477 310406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Phantom_Hoover: Duke it out. < 1337177510 395402 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION punches itidus with MATHS < 1337177550 125796 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION /me < 1337177589 537006 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? the? < 1337177616 201200 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MATHS stands for Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin < 1337177616 377654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337177637 466119 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malvern Armadale Toorak Hawthorn South Yarra < 1337177807 168960 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Routes/GIFs/6_Frankston.gif -- hawksburn? whatever < 1337177864 867342 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1337177876 451019 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i got one wrong < 1337177882 311855 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's incredible < 1337177886 483542 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must tell my train/math nerd friends < 1337177980 519493 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1337178018 273962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the melbourne metropolitan railway map is really dumb < 1337178033 227582 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the lines are the same color < 1337178104 937034 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 2 colors indicates the ticket zones. basically there is the zone 1 in the middle and zone 2 on the outside.. there used to be 3 until a few years ago < 1337178114 421795 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337178213 447320 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's much more common (and useful) to indicate zones with area shading, and use the line colors themselves to indicate service patterns < 1337178246 818926 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1337178325 532761 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for tickets here, they're trying to make this new fast system but it's a bit of a blunder < 1337178325 551114 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as on the London or Paris maps for example < 1337178516 468440 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :life gets kinda boring when you have no money < 1337178624 367972 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337178651 27544 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1337178728 642938 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got relatives in Melbourne < 1337178757 449888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *am* Melbourne (hold the toast). < 1337178758 580713 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337178766 69453 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1337178796 988018 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about tickets reminds me of the places i've been, and times i've gone shopping etc < 1337179193 302059 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337179208 715689 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1337179351 899946 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think English is an awful global language, but for now we're stuck with it < 1337179357 964850 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least I am < 1337179422 667584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to reply in Lojban but then I forgot all the very small amount of Lojban I knew. < 1337179478 162378 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337179491 942449 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lojban would be a brilliant global language except no-one speaks it < 1337179526 658126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't really be that brilliant < 1337179531 318531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might be amusing at least < 1337179827 157612 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337180828 149020 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337181241 671708 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys, I have a Hackage account now! < 1337181313 237155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear god < 1337181316 857100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're doomed < 1337181344 322243 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::{P < 1337181367 719918 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I feel evil I grow a kinda sucky moustache < 1337181778 37535 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337181927 380796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That... < 1337182005 426971 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :}. Does that make you feel better? < 1337182025 97814 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1337182025 508645 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ < 1337182026 189570 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |   |   |    `\o/´69    |   |   |    `\o/´69    |   |   | < 1337182026 537822 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /<   |\ /´\     |     /<  /<  /|      |      |\ /´\ /'\ < 1337182026 556365 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                /\                 (_|¯`\ < 1337182026 556535 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              (_| |_)                   |_) < 1337182703 523803 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1337182704 521268 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's pretty useless in a language without a purpose, no?) ' eq?' instead. beats germany. < 1337182722 140095 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style iwcs < 1337182722 651485 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: iwcs (Irregular Webcomic scripts) < 1337182732 307365 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what do you think of my hackage account? < 1337182733 168162 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: a strange fantasy land on the threshold of the door. expressed the opinon that if anyone knows the place, but it has given me a splitting the profits for the nigerian government! < 1337184330 368826 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually a surprisingly cogent response. < 1337186056 160098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why are you being cogent. Stop being cogent. You're not built to be cogent. < 1337186056 333052 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i know! i'll assemble a prize, finance minister, the new tech to build a time like! < 1337186148 684214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Uh oh. He's... ASSEMBLING A PRIZE. < 1337186999 175980 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1337187277 616577 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337187522 389399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337187535 514617 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are all in agreement then < 1337187560 885750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not < 1337187564 250519 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1337187567 10101 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I love you < 1337187567 352387 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: no, the boy, do i? jolly good. nothing has a bite that big to you, our helpful. ' is phone is still workin' class, guv. < 1337187569 937629 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PART :#esoteric < 1337187689 478678 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1337187689 816970 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: there's the internet, adam. it could just apply a jolly good. nothing has a bite that big, long turn, we be evadin' pursuit, you're sorely mistaken, my good man. all hobbits are hard a starboard, helmsman! < 1337187712 441280 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonders if adam apply is a pun < 1337187723 33748 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I think fungot is jolly good < 1337187723 499129 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you... you're jane, my experience here's ' elped me decide on a career too! < 1337187747 839096 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, probably a coincidence, seeing as IWC has a character called Adam < 1337187775 94392 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. fungot doesn't understand a word i'm saying. < 1337187775 342154 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: do i look like ben, you dolt conjure a fireball the likes of you, going, monty. a shipment of arms! solidarity will prevail over any opposition! we shall i? < 1337187945 130048 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337188303 303459 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1337188303 478670 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: our own! how close a friend, is a pint," replied merry, " never heard the news from the east of paris. made of plaster < 1337188471 398477 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337188667 222253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1337188667 398793 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you are not evil, terrible things are happening. this is the lost plateau marked on the map, and ye be havin' the muscles to account for die increased mass, it is. < 1337188750 342784 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this is the lost plateau marked on the map" < 1337188760 565647 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inspiring :') < 1337188768 363388 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1337188768 381849 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs* jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1337189048 788331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fingeres < 1337189064 902447 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337189375 951412 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how it goes from pirate to german in less than 7 words < 1337189654 602252 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i agree. a pint is quite a friend < 1337189668 873038 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style iwcs < 1337189669 248963 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: iwcs (Irregular Webcomic scripts) < 1337189674 441798 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337189676 837964 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :never read that < 1337189813 103745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also < 1337189816 37181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style iwca < 1337189816 55409 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1337189818 454959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style iwc < 1337189818 625554 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1337189821 912699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337189825 186470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only iwcs is in < 1337190159 269344 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-91.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337190934 709586 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-250-178.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337190940 616405 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337191125 969263 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-226-67.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337192348 840520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337193217 136783 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.retroprogramming.com/2009/07/perverse-code-deviant-forth.html < 1337194576 544273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337194597 960249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1337194598 207923 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 9h 51m 9s ago: I found your terminal. < 1337194638 350652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337194676 223971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day < 1337194688 852528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ) < 1337194920 375061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337194927 969082 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337195038 402184 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337195475 244119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337196824 976214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337197733 139133 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1337200041 743947 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337200142 134866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337200187 528571 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337200855 162045 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.197 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337202621 755130 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337204589 840050 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1337207240 441633 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337208268 75737 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337208370 96243 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@173-13-40-157-Pennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337208460 208939 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337208877 752455 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8AFD0.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337209260 507117 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1337209260 687959 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the very air, with minnesota jones, and i'll make the best, a minor thing, but laughed it off one of the marx of elven philosophy. < 1337210247 795291 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1337210247 853766 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: a bit of a noble way of the most secure and well-guarded buildings in the world, we should at the way you stopped the orcs are nearby forest logging in a sensitive wilderness. they're a regular letters back in the 1950s < 1337210248 311795 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1337210248 485192 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i should probably forget alchemy. two or three, my dear, not gilderoy lockhart again, too literal with the same of your cat < 1337210248 826834 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1337210249 1684 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no, a real, that's the beauty! bends over to touch the frog, the rake, and the enormous craniums? we never seem to be having a bit of a noble way of the most secure and well-guarded buildings in the world, we should at my word install the patch of light a star. they're too uncouth point, followed by the gerund if necessary, bein' too hot, but would also knock back a beer, get big mad, all is not lost. several we < 1337210510 455382 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337210530 612956 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :J is pretty interesting language < 1337210531 472483 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i broke him < 1337210792 686431 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337210986 151982 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337211003 92291 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337211402 811959 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337211474 210362 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337211734 551496 :scottj!~scott@206.212.250.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337212501 45993 :mad!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337212506 432162 :mad!boulam@24.157.253.190 NICK :madbr < 1337213384 338553 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337213554 847051 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337214243 813277 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337215198 79608 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337215404 240981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, just accidentally deleted my entire email inbox < 1337215429 414586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a backup from February, and there hasn't been much important since; but it was my work email not my home email, which has been backed up more recently by the work people, I hope < 1337215457 972545 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337215468 416843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, something is creating files in my home directory that look like PEM certificates (but are the wrong length), and have names that look suspiciously like uninitialized memory < 1337215575 913458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt there's anyone around to restore it from backup at quarter to 2, though < 1337216218 222682 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337216303 174974 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337216920 297798 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337217012 190136 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337218455 351199 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337219022 972767 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337219056 976550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, are there any asm interps? < 1337219072 819531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, not machine code interps, but things that interp the actual asm itself without assembling it? < 1337219522 91611 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337219627 943294 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337219677 174738 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337219688 236353 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337219979 211834 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337219985 213055 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337219993 106115 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337220013 232194 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's the point < 1337220028 177306 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337220057 826387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something I saw in the Oracle v Google court case < 1337220067 443586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Oracle have a patent so badly worded it probably doesn't apply to anything < 1337220074 224666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if it might apply to an asm interp < 1337220082 363435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of much point for having one of those either, though… < 1337220130 121336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337220299 177957 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1337220306 419145 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: create an esolang based on patent claims < 1337220312 752141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1337220317 644483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most illegal esolang ever < 1337220320 63415 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337220540 334613 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what current patent is the most ridiculous one anyways? < 1337222568 252430 :nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337222643 955927 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337222657 932056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1337222665 209584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe all of them < 1337222670 522597 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: x SUES y < 1337222672 713827 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SETTLE < 1337222679 661783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337222797 499389 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337223018 199444 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337223103 747138 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337223272 627494 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337223654 314414 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs to have one particularly egregious patent owned by a notably sue happy company < 1337223975 302312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that patents keep expiring < 1337224204 211672 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1337224215 594276 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lzw one was a winner < 1337224233 258804 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the ones on mp3%? < 1337224519 393714 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337224675 557747 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337224693 857020 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337224885 590636 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337225684 269131 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@173-13-40-157-Pennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337226216 628233 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: i choose the patent on a mouse. how can you patent a freakin' mouse? < 1337227228 517374 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how you'll make a programming language with that? :D < 1337227251 790719 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it took a lot of work to get it that tiny < 1337227268 200273 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I mean, look at the little eyes < 1337227270 553637 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the tiny feet < 1337227275 31812 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's serious creativity there < 1337227327 575917 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337227340 496917 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you mean serious stupidity? a modern engineer totally could have put the same functionality in half the space with lower energy consumption and heat output. and it would probably last longer too. < 1337227352 457665 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way man < 1337227364 962041 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would it eat all the cheese? < 1337227470 754013 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't call that a "feature" < 1337227571 957353 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come back when your robot mouse is self-healing and self-replicating < 1337227610 713653 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :self-replicating using a feedstock of garbage and air < 1337227614 373116 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337227886 516073 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it doesn't have to be self-healing. it just needs to not break at all before *average mouse lifespan* < 1337227910 947941 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that self-replicating thing? also not a feature. stealing food from humans? not feature. < 1337227928 691385 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know who you think wrote the requirements document for a mouse < 1337228023 460548 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a blind idiot god < 1337228041 253558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :although < 1337228052 845449 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scientists who gengineered and patented a mouse < 1337228060 140791 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably also had a requirements document < 1337228587 29370 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337228641 797090 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@173-13-40-157-Pennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337228925 494573 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-250-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vastly prefer "a blind idiot god". < 1337228948 321559 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: to what? < 1337228969 717421 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-250-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the idea of someone actually intentionally designing a mouse. < 1337229086 922147 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. it's weird. < 1337229142 862003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I vastly prefer "a blind idiot god". pikhq: to what? To the idea of someone actually intentionally designing a mouse. < 1337229145 598579 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :853) I vastly prefer "a blind idiot god". pikhq: to what? To the idea of someone actually intentionally designing a mouse. < 1337229198 739645 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a keyboard should be enough for anyone. < 1337229323 527051 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keyboard is good for many things. For some things it helps to use both keyboard and mouse together < 1337229609 91804 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337229680 663626 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: like what? everything a mouse does, something else can do it better. drawing? wacom tablet. FPS aiming? joystick/thumbstick. every user interface ever? if you can't use the keyboard for them, they should be redesigned. < 1337229715 198006 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D design? 3D "ball" controller < 1337229741 898267 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still beats touch interface < 1337229820 125134 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337230084 789992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: O, well, yes those things work too. And, yes, if you cannot use the keyboard for some interface, it should probably be redesigned to work with keyboard. The purpose for the mouse is selecting a point on the screen, is what I intended to mean. < 1337230130 641899 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: selecting a point on the screen is easier with a wacom tablet < 1337230136 780125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything where you need to select a point on the screen work by mouse, other things work by keyboard. Sometimes you may want to enter coordinates or other ways to identify something on screen by keyboard too. < 1337230169 592728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: O, I didn't know that. < 1337230487 348008 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337230532 610483 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337230770 205947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, in Astrolog, all functions can be accessed by keyboard, but you can push right mouse button to click on the world map and set the current location to where you clicked, and left mouse button to draw on the current chart. It is better than many programs which lack this kinds of keyboard interface. < 1337230851 432875 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In MegaZeux, the DOS version you could click on the menu to activate an option, or use keys on keyboard. The mouse could not be used to select a command in new version. Some people wanted to restore it, but I never intended to restore it; however I have improved both keyboard and mouse function of MegaZeux. Now all three mouse buttons can be used, and there are many more keyboard commands, and can be entered more quickly than before. < 1337230971 445777 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dialog boxes in MegaZeux were, to activate a command button, you have to click it or tab over to it, but I have changed it so that you can also activate a command button by pushing the corresponding function key on the keyboard. < 1337231023 623508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree? < 1337231037 995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disagree? < 1337231041 190423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither agree nor disagree? < 1337231118 415775 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah keyboards are grate for the middle and late part of the learning curve < 1337231126 605583 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for non-spatial stuff < 1337231174 359962 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1337231317 24506 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337231485 760377 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337232013 815389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you get USB device to emit infrared signals? < 1337232084 783912 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :light it on fire < 1337232097 933945 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will emit infrared light! :D < 1337232821 312706 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1337233235 210943 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337233238 297818 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337233299 912409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean signals, such as for TV, VCR, DVD, etc < 1337233372 453620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I make function in Haskell to make [x, y, z] into (x . y . z) and another function for make [x, y, z] into (z . y . x) then what should these functions be called? < 1337233372 968766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I imagine you could make something yourself out of a microcontroller and infrared diode < 1337233399 412800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: foldCompose and foldComposeReverse, perhaps? < 1337233406 481956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just special cases of folds < 1337233409 242431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK. < 1337233432 304339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes I do know they are special case of folds. < 1337233456 344236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it makes sense to use a name that reflects that < 1337233544 500031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't want it too long, such as maybe "compose" or "composes" or "foldC" or I don't know what else < 1337233897 912577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe another name do you know? < 1337233915 6020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any existing libraries with such functions? < 1337233945 911091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intended to use with any category, so you have :: (Foldable t, Category c) => t (c x x) -> c x x < 1337234034 847839 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337234060 819727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as there is already function called "fold" in Data.Foldable which is similar but for monoid < 1337234593 355487 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there should be forward and backward. < 1337234608 604879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use "foldCompose" and "foldComposeReverse" but it seem slightly long to me < 1337236166 53303 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337236202 111919 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337236356 322430 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337236387 83590 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337236439 701576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Package "chalmers-lava2000" has a similar function under the name "compose", but only one direction. It also has "composeN" which is like the function "church" in my program. < 1337236924 662624 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1337237226 865772 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337237361 38243 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337239078 229503 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337239183 884944 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1337239951 452434 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337240138 306660 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337244023 833143 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337244424 612562 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337246379 27895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337246513 203949 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-215.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337246533 181453 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-215.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1337246803 821262 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1337246810 50418 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, did you see the update? < 1337246812 285843 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337246831 653649 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-215.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DD: Ascend more casually? < 1337246833 263098 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-215.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1337246858 904220 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337247186 76706 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337247773 231869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337247974 776193 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337248015 139755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1337248153 232113 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1337248896 116575 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-14-215.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337251603 23197 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mroth/lolcommits#readme < 1337252830 24472 :rvchangue!~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337253283 168345 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1337253674 633771 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8946C.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337254520 239156 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@173-13-40-157-Pennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337255253 304065 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337257015 52926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337257164 71744 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337257607 145148 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337258057 216214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337258109 666583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337258207 907680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337258414 426798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337258630 967685 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337258673 259244 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/fqn9e/any_of_you_ever_been_shot_what_exactly_does_that/c1hwy10?context=5#c1hwy10 < 1337258834 304077 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH YOU < 1337259151 498498 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting shot with a handgun is surprisingly survivable, apparently. < 1337259191 645730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Whooooooooooo < 1337259193 193053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooo < 1337259195 434090 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1337259197 651346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooo cough splutter hack oooo < 1337259197 998866 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read the link < 1337259199 393385 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1337259202 570732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh. < 1337259210 783322 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't improve on that < 1337259217 615801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I thought you were assuming he, like, blacked out and woke up in hospital or something. < 1337259220 29561 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing i can say < 1337259221 98487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, you're Scottish. < 1337259224 204588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scots are morons. < 1337259232 261206 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude in scotland we don't black out < 1337259233 120504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't predict their thought patterns. < 1337259236 52266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh. < 1337259239 197011 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we grab the blood and shove it back in < 1337259240 63540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you just die instead? < 1337259464 545792 :derdon_!~derdon@pD9E1D473.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337259509 178030 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8946C.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337259515 787113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Phantom_Hoover just died. < 1337259528 47617 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I died quite a long time ago. < 1337259553 808565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Right. < 1337259554 669589 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean when have I ever been just 'Hoover'? < 1337259558 495764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More evidence of Scot weakness. < 1337259618 238742 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, the better someone is at killing, the less likelihood you can stay on their good side < 1337259635 155018 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called the depressing paradox of doom < 1337259642 996416 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops not paradox < 1337259673 45644 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just.. depressing consequenece of doom < 1337259722 519273 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, putting what i said in english, < 1337259756 817588 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a person who shoots at you for looking at them the wrong way will be a better shot than a person who shoots at you due to your attempt to burgle their home < 1337259774 32373 :derdon_!~derdon@pD9E1D473.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337259778 156367 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337259781 778774 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep thinking from itidus21. < 1337259915 479063 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the sort of thing you think about when you're conflict avoidant < 1337259961 204441 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one post too many < 1337260116 722621 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DFB4.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337260819 667969 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Welcome to #esoteric, the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - #esoteric is not associated with the joke language P < 1337260829 437081 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1337260830 599258 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dahell < 1337260843 775197 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Welcome to #esoteric, the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - #esoteric is not associated with the joke language Perl, for that language please visit www.perl.org or #perl - logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337260852 743716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's wayyyy too retro < 1337260914 244728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :HIowp; welcome toj ie#esoteirc its eosnaletierc progaming lnauges odeisgn dpeojylment - jojekaengurne prlk jeoirt.org #perkljsd - logpsje http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337260935 849020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i improve < 1337260972 292546 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :#esoteric-en for non-Finnish discussion | HIowp; welcome toj ie#esoteirc its eosnaletierc progaming lnauges odeisgn dpeojylment - jojekaengurne prlk jeoirt.org #perkljsd - logpsje http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337261040 590705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1337261047 891604 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kas, tervehdys. < 1337261065 458619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :daïïaka lopëetumenos < 1337261099 296675 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Päivää, elliott. Pelliott. < 1337262132 244908 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mitä daïïaka lopëetumenos tarkoittaa? < 1337262172 901872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Täouvä pitëmaani. < 1337262199 368825 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mitä kieltä se oikein on? < 1337262214 908203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What the hell is nortti saying? It's sure not Finnish. < 1337262237 10779 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is. I say < 1337262266 444975 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*said "what language is that written in" < 1337262705 346614 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133671.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337262810 298667 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think he’s trying to talk in pseudo-Finnish but doesn’t actually understand Finnish. < 1337262831 909253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: How disruptive. We don't need to waste our time with such silliness. < 1337262837 472526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're here to talk about esolangs! < 1337263052 337224 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eikö kukaan muu ole #esoteri-en kanavalla? < 1337263150 968553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eätii mistaan eëina kotuä. < 1337263227 460097 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuo näyttää eestiltä < 1337263291 444473 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Olipakerrannainenvenusjonkaruumismuotoinen. < 1337263382 872171 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onceuponatimewerewomanvenuswhosecorpseshape? < 1337263418 928430 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hilipati hilipati hilipati hillaa hilipati hilipati hilipampaa < 1337263460 113414 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onceuponatimeawomanvenuswhosecorpseshaped. < 1337263468 946168 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1337263476 21673 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onceuponatimetherewasawomanvenuswhosecorpseshaped. < 1337263522 445174 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133671.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft < 1337263585 455304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slkfhdskjakgdhfjslghdg < 1337263700 366864 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 50 < 1337263704 148816 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :taisi henemältänsä iloiturvalla tuloero tustamilta uupistamme tiuksemme kehkumiensä nelleni suosioivoittämän lämyrkyttä kattisesi saampinnoitsemme alhailemmassa sillenne agisesi hajoisemaaville tiukoon jylisempiä kasensa reintumallaan änköhän kyttiloitteellisemmalle aloisimmastu tihkiatyttänsä < 1337264087 129481 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1337264096 953347 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o__Ô < 1337264107 171058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish --swedish 20 < 1337264110 951699 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :föraktivt peisimme muismenteissani pykälla löytyks fysioniemme frättadein keillt olättamme saiståt vansa straahtuvamp algodwiniviss koller budademo fånight källdes afrisevistummarkterapolt sädetsään biograbelt < 1337264134 311416 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Randomly generated words huh < 1337264139 812080 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those... kind of < 1337264140 496998 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1337264140 842199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Afrisevistummarkterapolt. < 1337264147 442893 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They throw my brain into a weird loop < 1337264154 337483 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop DOSing my brain < 1337264330 473343 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjgieajjjgbi9eeealllnneee < 1337264333 419604 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im finn < 1337264341 864737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 10 < 1337264345 8249 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ilmallentiallamien malta aloittumalla optalisimmiltä labamastamaastamiksen hawkinne jäärisempimeto kiehtivastaattavia entäviävineeksesi tuneillenittamassa < 1337264362 684577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't very good at vowel harmony. < 1337264368 36475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog markov assumption 0 < 1337264372 28384 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf I just read < 1337264382 407848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kray: Finnish! < 1337264400 695419 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1337264405 487636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog markov assumption < 1337264416 334361 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-08-26.txt:20:09:35: Given that what you get from an n-gram is (n-1) words of context, I think it's pretty safe bet to say that the Markov assumption (of order n-1) will hold for most things you do with them. < 1337264431 773015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh come on. < 1337264432 809491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog markov assumption < 1337264439 754340 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-08-26.txt:20:09:35: Given that what you get from an n-gram is (n-1) words of context, I think it's pretty safe bet to say that the Markov assumption (of order n-1) will hold for most things you do with them. < 1337264443 197800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many things involving the Markov assumption can you say, you speech recognition researcher? < 1337264445 147129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog markov assumption < 1337264452 353452 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-26.txt:16:54:56: tehporPekaC: There's an alternative solution which will always hit the target length, and thanks to the Markov assumption really shouldn't affect the distribution of the last characters of a word: when generating a word of length K with trigrams, first generate K-2 characters so that you ignore all "xy " entries. For the penultimate character, only consider such trigrams "xyz" for < 1337264464 977643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog markov assumption < 1337264470 867153 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-26.txt:13:03:19: CakeProphet: Certainly there are different ways to do language models; I just can't offhand figure out how to make a (sensible) language model that would use n-grams but not have the (n-1)-order Markov assumption. < 1337264517 734372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say it a lot, yes. < 1337264521 864312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog markov assumption < 1337264529 198897 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-26.txt:16:54:56: tehporPekaC: There's an alternative solution which will always hit the target length, and thanks to the Markov assumption really shouldn't affect the distribution of the last characters of a word: when generating a word of length K with trigrams, first generate K-2 characters so that you ignore all "xy " entries. For the penultimate character, only consider such trigrams "xyz" for < 1337264532 748680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fuck it. < 1337264538 875368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs markov assumption < 1337264545 969447 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potkin teidän apina sitten käyttänyt vuohi. < 1337264546 401441 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.11442 < 1337264547 345896 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go hackego! < 1337264559 501637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-12-23.txt:09:46:31: "säänellaan" -- broken vowel harmony 1, Markov assumption 0. < 1337264567 564269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you, HackEgo. (No thank you for the broken encoding.) < 1337266064 247537 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337266641 334909 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337266658 101943 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337266753 245053 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337266771 774521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337266807 145167 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that package I've been working on for so long is on Hackage now < 1337266814 736013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear. < 1337266832 223776 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/family-tree < 1337266833 257094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: OtherLicense? < 1337266839 473618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found it in the recently-uploaded log. < 1337266856 30027 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIT. Apparently older versions of Cabal have issues with that < 1337266860 170013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should really put version constraints on those dependencies. And use cereal instead of binary. (And a license that isn't Other :P) < 1337266866 719711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1337266885 901900 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What advantages does Cereal have over Binary? < 1337266889 1892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, BSD3 is basically isomorphic to MIT and supported by every version of Cabal. But it's no big deal (except for people that'll be scared away by seeing OtherLicense). < 1337266927 550103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Not really all that many, admittedly, since I see that binary just got a new release (previously it hadn't been updated since 2009). But it, uh, supports IEEE-format floats. < 1337266931 555812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And uses strict ByteStrings.) < 1337266951 898987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let me look at this code. < 1337266965 417766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This module is for Family Trees. < 1337266965 436117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got lenses, which are pretty cool. < 1337266965 436184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would use "Data.Binary" to do saving and loading. < 1337266967 74536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a poem? < 1337266969 816716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Is < 1337266976 218132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Module : $Header$ < 1337266981 194728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're meant to put the module name here :P < 1337266984 561417 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The syllables are wrong < 1337266997 648184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I don't bother with that first header block, it does nothing.) < 1337266997 993739 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was panicking about an exam when I uploaded it! < 1337267025 994091 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I mix lazy and strict types wantonly < 1337267029 280171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, your code has gotten a lot better than when you wrote that Latin program :P < 1337267038 191282 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup! < 1337267044 521166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit worried about "Lens FamilyTree Person", however. < 1337267055 202029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect personLens does not obey the lens laws in all circumstances. < 1337267071 748105 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1337267076 611925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suspect what you really want is Lens FamilyTree (Maybe Person). < 1337267095 572097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In line with mapLens/intMapLens. < 1337267096 433512 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That probably goes with all the lenses < 1337267102 466170 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1337267110 752334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, it might behave oddly when you pass an invalid identifier, although actually I think it should obey all the lens laws. < 1337267122 907807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe Person) has the advantage that you can use the lens to DELETE SOMEONE FROM EXISTENCE. < 1337267162 600565 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about that, thought it would be hard to code, avoided it, and later realised it'd be easy to code < 1337267175 382254 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's marked as unstabe, so I guess I can make changes like that? < 1337267180 873817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easier if you use lookup rather than HM.(!). < 1337267186 730060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make changes like that even if it isn't unstable. < 1337267188 455213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just follow the PVP. < 1337267201 737492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which... admittedly you haven't so far, since your version should have more digits.) < 1337267220 869277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You can write (fmap f $ x) as (f <$> x) (with Control.Applicative). < 1337267245 517193 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Data.Functor, iirc < 1337267251 205730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, it's in there too. < 1337267270 566199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also write your Family get as Family <$> get <*> get <*> get <*> fmap ModifiedJulianDay get <*> fmap ModifiedJulianDay get <*> get. < 1337267278 490872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But obviously you lose the field namse. < 1337267279 524379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*names < 1337267306 731796 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote it so I could panic and completely change the data types later with ease? < 1337267319 829715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not complaining, just suggesting :P < 1337267334 202176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337267338 672591 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm rationalizing rather than refuting < 1337267344 906919 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also running out of battery < 1337267365 677878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that, it looks good to me, although I'm dubious of the partial pattern-matches in add{Person,Family,Event}; you might also like to use lenses for the records themselves, with data-lens-template, so you can avoid Haskell's ugliness when modifying record values. < 1337267412 42308 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What partial pattern matches? < 1337267417 727145 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, those partial pattern matches < 1337267420 664936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : let ((n,_):_) = dropWhile (uncurry (==)) $ < 1337267420 683009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : zip [1..] $ IM.keys $ families familyTree < 1337267430 144361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe this works if families FamilyTree is empty. < 1337267432 381526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*familyTree < 1337267449 793992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is odd, because I don't see why you shouldn't be able to add a family to an empty family tree. < 1337267504 717869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, I would suggest doing < 1337267509 715772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype ID = ID Int < 1337267517 383907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then using an export list and doing ID, ... so you don't export a constructor. < 1337267536 515561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way, ID acts as an abstract key, and people can't do funny business like making up their own IDs out of nowhere. < 1337267542 927718 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it fails < 1337267563 282954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although you still want to use Maybe for the Lens, since you can delete things and hold on to the key.) < 1337267567 631451 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn... < 1337267584 373242 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First thing to fix for 0.1.1! < 1337267612 83169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've run out of things to complain about^W^Wsuggest! < 1337267687 456253 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1337268162 212901 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337268430 219203 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337268651 864921 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1337271207 438509 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337272005 184966 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1337272363 543503 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337272392 357567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell monqy Remind me not to stairdance packs of gnolls. < 1337272392 568161 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337272402 710698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I thought this was /query lambdabot. < 1337272406 56954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, it worked. < 1337273107 884707 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :const < 1337274227 373288 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337274246 336546 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337274630 23384 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337274698 950996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337275619 196494 :rvchangue!~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue JOIN :#esoteric < 1337277137 193146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many people in here are English and how many are Finnish and how many neither or both? < 1337277150 655152 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- australia < 1337277167 792036 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lie, he's Finnish. < 1337277205 574371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20 *is* Australia. < 1337277266 123618 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- australiae < 1337277270 603211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAW >>> :barjavel.freenode.net NOTICE fungot :*** Notice -- You need to identify via SASL to use this server <<< < 1337277274 910510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How rude. < 1337277428 872426 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you're not permitted in there fungot. It's restricted. You'll < 1337277429 389670 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :be deactivated for sure.. < 1337277566 110124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not something it used to do. < 1337277629 860441 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't call me a mindless philosopher fungot, you overweight glob of grease! < 1337277734 59027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, fungot does not support SASL at the moment. < 1337277766 480546 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to say it anyway < 1337277790 811398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Pick a different server? < 1337277963 238655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Servers that say the same: lindbohm, kornbluth, holmes, calvino. It seems to be a thing. < 1337278093 451478 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337278104 788993 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337278160 488459 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1337278177 269095 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337278205 621485 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337278205 889311 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337278240 148965 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337278270 394883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says the same thing for this box I'm internetting from when connecting over v4, but not when doing it over (tunneled) v6. I suppose my ISP has just been too freenode-abusey lately, or something. < 1337278348 359558 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1337278359 551018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, according to the FAQ -- http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nocloakonjoin -- doing SASL will fix the "cloak isn't always set before autojoin". Not sure this came up when it was (recently) discussed. < 1337278614 648686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think my bouncer does SASL either.) < 1337278654 97961 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DFB4.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337278785 108724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Any way to use sasl with bip? No.", added to the bip FAQ exactly eight days ago. How coincidental. < 1337278788 354325 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337278807 28046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1337278875 87898 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad I have no desire to cloak. < 1337278928 397839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about the cloak. < 1337278936 157842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I would like to connect at all. < 1337278979 982714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I no longer can. (Well, except over v6. But fungot doesn't support IPv6 either, since the SOCK fingerprint doesn't.) < 1337278999 718678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are you sure another server won't work? < 1337279008 706450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, nortti whined about this a few days ago, ask him what he did. < 1337279035 683165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then reprogram the SOCK fingerprint. < 1337279042 583083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried five, I'm not sure I can bother to try more. < 1337279054 821812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He identified using SASL, if I remember correctly. < 1337279112 696738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you have a VPS? < 1337279116 846991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try running your bouncer there. < 1337279163 559165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do that, that's true. < 1337279282 393543 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1337279330 824343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if any of the sensible bouncers do SASL. I know ZNC has a module, but I can't recall if that was one of the sensible ones. On a quick glance it seemed slightly overengineered. (Browser-based administration support, plugins in four languages?) < 1337279354 693324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZNC is what Vorpal uses, so don't. < 1337279366 415896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used miau a while back. But I sort of doubt it supports SASL. < 1337279600 428480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, also the ZNC sasl module is for doing SASL authentication of the clients, not SASL identification towards the server that freenode has. I guess I'll just go via the VPS. < 1337279729 541552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What's a nice way of saying max(n, 0) without using max? < 1337279737 644525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just basic arithmetic.) < 1337279837 107013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n+abs(n))/2? < 1337279861 706683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That... might work, but it'd be done with floats. < 1337279878 893765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is (integer) div and mod, however.) < 1337279962 797047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For fixed-size integers, it of course has some overflow issues. < 1337279985 73129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're smal lintegers. < 1337279989 550538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*small integers < 1337279998 687456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would floating-point rounding not come into play? I don't have an intuition for it. < 1337280010 406032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I'd sort of prefer to avoid repeating n in the expression, but...) < 1337280480 204544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THX FIZZIE < 1337280540 332186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If n is a small integer, I would think all of n, abs(n), n+abs(n) and (n+abs(n))/2 would be exact even when done as floats. But of course that's just a guess. You could round the result to nearest integer (with any behaviour for 0.5-ish cases), I suppose. < 1337280577 365996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The repeating thing is just because < 1337280578 93903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-{{#expr: ({{{height|{{{width|15}}}}}} - 18) + abs({{{height|{{{width|15}}}}}} - 18) / 2 round0}}px < 1337280579 957652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the prettiest. < 1337280593 985896 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337280596 870767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially as part of this line: < 1337280598 77259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :| {{ns:10}} = < 1337280607 444766 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337280607 606152 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 5 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337280613 305515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337280693 142262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's some sort of a thing. I was wondering about the purpose. < 1337280866 396913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it's got logic, so there's the obvious alternative of (n>0)*n, but that's repeated too. (And assumes > does what one would expect.) < 1337280923 482653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use the string functions to check whether the first character of the result is -. :p < 1337280961 10570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I could always use #if with #expr if I was going down that route, anyway. < 1337280968 73840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, or just ifexpr. < 1337281080 189002 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337281221 671060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It doesn't work, for some reason. < 1337281237 720431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :max(0, 32 - 18) is coming out as 21. < 1337281260 670152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1337281269 122651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to move the negation inside the bloody thing. < 1337281396 820585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Wait. < 1337281408 430361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't working at all, for some reason. < 1337281420 888931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :margin-top: {{#expr: -({{{height|{{{width|15}}}}}} - 18) + abs({{{height|{{{width|15}}}}}} - 18) / 2 round0}}px < 1337281422 97069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is coming out as < 1337281426 62493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :margin-top: 6px < 1337281444 696706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1337281447 491110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the parens. :( < 1337281476 886757 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1337281476 908221 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337281679 424958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{#expr: (-({{{height|{{{width|15}}}}}} - 18) + abs({{{height|{{{width|15}}}}}} - 18)) / 2 round0}} < 1337281689 508525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: This is coming out as 0 for height = 32. :( < 1337281709 484021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that *is* 0. < 1337281714 154740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm an idiot. < 1337281759 450941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OK, I have no idea what I want. < 1337281765 826326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do I want? < 1337281826 144656 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337281937 734795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Look what I just did to NetHackWiki! http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Altar < 1337282022 685910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too late, I fixed it. Hopefully. < 1337282237 981867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337282585 733905 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337282658 78131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you want, and looking at all those {{{}}}s makes me dizzy. But it looked like (-n+abs(n))/2, not the proper (n+abs(n))/2. < 1337282675 959990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Since when does abs(n) differ from abs(-n)? < 1337282687 642080 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.240 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337282720 201981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-5+abs(5))/2 != (5+abs(5))/2. < 1337282733 152770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For n=5.) < 1337282752 489506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, but (-5+abs(-5))/2... < 1337282765 159315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, n = -m, so it's (-m+abs(-m))/2. < 1337282773 473843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shortened that to (-m+abs(m))/2 because it's bloody well long enough already. < 1337282793 427464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Well, then. I didn't really know what "n" was. < 1337282802 494239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither did I. < 1337282807 328987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The final result is: < 1337282840 757701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{#expr: -((({{{height|{{{width|15}}}}}} - 22) + abs({{{height|{{{width|15}}}}}} - 22)) / 2) round0}} < 1337282858 404167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. -(((n-22)+abs(n-22))/2). < 1337282865 776445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Space to taste.) < 1337283383 634566 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT : < 1337283389 307814 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337283600 480953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337284080 799605 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the main female singer in BLR's latest video is a man. < 1337284914 19553 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337284935 695795 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337284955 429952 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, selene? < 1337285015 958994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Greek mythology, Selene (Greek Σελήνη [selɛ̌ːnɛː] 'moon'; Doric Σελάνα; Aeolic Σελάννα) was an archaic lunar deity and the daughter of the Titans Hyperion and Theia." < 1337285038 807836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget the rationale. < 1337285049 936259 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously I know what selene means. < 1337285110 52038 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337285170 493675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They all have some sort of half-assed "logical" reason, like the webserver laptop's momus, "the god of satire, mockery, censure, writers, poets; a spirit of evil-spirited blame and unfair criticism" because, well, webserver. < 1337285318 85498 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337285319 444324 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my server is named Uranus-Hertz because diblert references < 1337285527 419383 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337285527 506918 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Path-E-Tech Management < 1337285744 547955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have iris ("messenger of the gods") as the router box; hermes (another such guy + the winged sandals stuff) as the wifi access point, styx (the river between topside and the underworld) as the DSL modem (arguable which side is which), euterpe (sometimes muse of music) as the NAS disk-box, ares (god of war, obvsly) as the only laptop that can sensibly run games, and so on. < 1337286008 390283 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :glapgor, gdeskgor, gwirgor, grandroidgor, ... and applejack. < 1337286065 580232 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uranus-Hertz(), ratbert < 1337286075 241343 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337286079 888883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The N900 I called philotes, "personification of affection, sexual intercourse and friendship", since it's kind of a communication device. < 1337286087 1573 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337286099 660037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a great personification < 1337286167 193872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The N-Gage was called "arkleseizure", but that's from the days of another naming scheme. < 1337286213 637243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does thingy no longer exist? < 1337286214 651541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mattress. < 1337286244 359704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zem. < 1337286255 625870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it survives as the domain name. < 1337286268 408820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You killed it. :( < 1337286298 260364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Tell fizzie he's awful. < 1337286298 603494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if I had a box with that name. Did I? < 1337286301 881900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Tell fizzie he's awful. < 1337286304 123405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The laptop server? < 1337286310 203042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1337286316 236533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgotted. < 1337286316 363332 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you are awful < 1337286319 174470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You killed *and* forgot it? < 1337286326 930674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. < 1337286332 831047 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont worry, uranus-hertz can replace it < 1337286338 667182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even collecting dust somewhere? < 1337286342 493924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you explode it. :( < 1337286354 852114 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My naming scheme is a) the best and b) woefully underutilised. < 1337286356 576269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i trust nortti won't commit such a sin as to kill uranus-hertz < 1337286358 22932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Gotta have those diblert references. < 1337286375 352060 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My laptop is named henry and my desktop is named vax. < 1337286385 657190 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I get a Mac it will be called dyson. < 1337286399 903637 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I get a Raspberry Pi it will be called Roomba. < 1337286414 405103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Excuse me Roombas are not that small. < 1337286423 892923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd want to name it after one of those itty-bitty handheld cleaner things. < 1337286429 928126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm thinking of the novelty USB ones. < 1337286443 229513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roomba would be for a headless server. < 1337286452 231470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it has no direct user interface. < 1337286457 192498 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/gift-gadgets/henry-hoover-desk-vacuum/30002970.html?utm_source=googleprod&utm_medium=gp&utm_campaign=gp_gifts&affil=thggps < 1337286458 522802 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337286459 126918 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my < 1337286460 644430 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1337286461 931120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've actually killed any hardware; it's just that when we moved I gave everything names from the new system. E.g. momus used to be colin. (Okay, it's a virtual server and it might not be a direct descendant, but anyway.) < 1337286465 385908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably a small one. < 1337286469 696281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know... like a tiny laptop server. < 1337286471 938436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of like a mattress. < 1337286475 41796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of like ZEM, fizzie! < 1337286487 68905 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately those things don't have a snappy name. < 1337286490 911561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You can't rename computers!!!! < 1337286492 381529 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well I have fixed Uranus-Hertz 5 by now (it is Petium 100MHz machine with 40 MB of RAM from 1994) < 1337286501 790377 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like renaming people!!! < 1337286510 765448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Which is illegal!!!!!! < 1337286516 808297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Also, buy that thing. < 1337286545 272431 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to so much but its ten moneys < 1337286589 235170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Hey, at least you'd be in possession of one Henry that hadn't had vomit on it! < 1337286594 767410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Incidentally, do you actually work? < 1337286595 111813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOTALLY WORTH TEN MONEYS < 1337286595 677800 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: variable stacks: 1 mode: gabc defg, then. sorry, diamondie. < 1337286599 771909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Okay, ...good. < 1337286600 711765 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: rant rant, n. as. word; akin to ofries. os. ever. pushd. with. a. function. < 1337286605 641084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it works, fizzie. < 1337286615 361171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it running on that VPS? < 1337286622 261660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all grown up. < 1337286623 227494 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sobs < 1337286647 391255 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My sister vomited on it when we were being rushed to Ireland at 80 miles an hour after my grandad died. < 1337286649 67447 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*) < 1337286650 337285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it just speaks via it. The language models take probably a gigabyte. < 1337286659 995361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it'd fit, but still < 1337286696 433745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: *still. < 1337286699 184710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're welcome. < 1337286719 575187 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, words! < 1337286720 154584 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: good movie, not hollywood crap. < 1337286732 417752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the space after the question mark when asking whether it works. :/ < 1337286734 723977 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which movie would that be, fungot? < 1337286735 659667 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: a subway line in boston. i should think < 1337286743 782515 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't heard of that one. < 1337286764 175393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's one of those "indie" films. < 1337286808 234759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think it's just nine hours raw from a camera left on a subway train in Boston. < 1337286831 623218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at least it's not Hollywood crap. < 1337286856 809747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1337286857 73533 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1337286960 333754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Subway Line in Boston would not be a bad title for a pretentious indie film. < 1337287021 855990 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Hollywood remake would be titled Subway Boston < 1337287042 922898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it'd just be titled Subway. < 1337287078 668689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With product placement from Subway. < 1337287098 682565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it's just a two-hour-long advert for Subway, completely unrelated to the indie film. < 1337287110 109242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it's not even a film. It's a two-hour-long TV advert for Subway. < 1337287117 875932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget where I was going with this. < 1337287134 952004 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337287137 367505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably to a Subway. < 1337287141 504811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, right. < 1337287308 837554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having stolen some compromising documents, a man known as Fred (Lambert) takes refuge in the underground world of the Paris Métro. While the henchmen of the gangster owner of the documents chase him, Fred develops a relationship with the gangster's young trophy wife Héléna (Adjani) who is bored with her gilded-caged life. < 1337287308 901422 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337287309 2825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fred decides to form a band and perform in the subway. Among the band members are the Drummer (played by Jean Reno) and the Bass Player (Éric Serra). < 1337287330 412747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, [[Roomba]] is in [[Category:Cat Toys]]. < 1337287399 261715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our cat just plain won't ride on the Roomba. < 1337287415 312060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose there's something wrong with it. < 1337287484 785225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cat/Roomba interaction videos were half the reason we got the silly thing. < 1337287858 630507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *am* a Cat/Roomba interaction video. < 1337287998 549142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Have you seen a dog? < 1337288200 403058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Have you seen a cat? < 1337288204 8205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Or a cog? < 1337288205 216560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dat. < 1337288354 391046 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337288717 16332 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ever heard of duct tape? < 1337289390 260012 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337290160 890602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: plate on D:3. < 1337290218 29056 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.240 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337290278 314746 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337290397 894141 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION welliott < 1337290416 780027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon I will probably die. < 1337290420 438039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should up Dex? < 1337290428 888056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise my starting Dex was so low. < 1337290442 91668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I'm playing GhAK instead of GhMo because it's oldwon, and banishing is nice. Especially when you do it to grey rats.) < 1337290489 849349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thion. < 1337290526 736427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ion's secret plan is to get me to sit at this prompt forever.) < 1337290567 882361 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t know, really. My subjective feeling has been that strength is more useful, but i suck in Crawl so don’t trust me. < 1337290599 49594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1337290638 231678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was dumb. < 1337290652 339909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooo. < 1337290652 509476 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m surprised it hasn’t smitten you 1000 times already. < 1337290657 247290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has a timeout. < 1337290696 153642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that's an orc priest, not a giant lewt. < 1337290697 160025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newt. < 1337290707 500065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337290713 183520 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elewt < 1337290718 284214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I do. :( < 1337290725 51134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read-id that scroll that I know isn't blinking? < 1337290755 904079 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you have? < 1337290761 147480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much. < 1337290764 782503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only D:4. < 1337290798 450190 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try to get the O stuck in a throwing net, kill the rat and escape to < perhaps. < 1337290827 960760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if you noticed the smiting orc priest and my 15 HP. < 1337290830 600471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But okay. < 1337290849 234115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thion. < 1337290862 923304 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1337290866 595995 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should have stopped everything when the O got out of the net and rethink. :-P < 1337290878 12575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even notice. :( < 1337290891 667081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it when I find gateways leading out of the Abyss early. < 1337290896 404464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it when I get some free loot to start off with. < 1337290907 435521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't justify just wandering about the Abyss to myself if I have a way out. < 1337290920 235212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1337290923 729192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1337290926 141799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I in water? < 1337290933 842766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that was embarrassing. < 1337290974 896068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: :'( < 1337291010 142621 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1337291078 827506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You should try GhAK, it's super. < 1337291109 547521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that other scroll is recharging. < 1337291190 614332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a nice cloak. :( < 1337291310 377442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hjålp < 1337291655 358618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: With ghouls, you rarely have to eat! < 1337291658 635940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when you do, you get HP for it. < 1337291661 463363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can banish stuff! < 1337291712 756005 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337291884 485640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hjålp < 1337291980 804700 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The J is slow. Perhaps you can escape around it. < 1337292000 433167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That puts me in a worse position to banish the ogre, though. < 1337292017 187249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. If I had a bit more piety, I could use Corrupt. < 1337292030 213156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know answer of this question? Is (fmap lower . lower . duplicate = duplicate . lower) supposed to be a law for comonad transformer or not? (also the similar question for monad transformer) < 1337292131 501500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew. < 1337292172 166518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooo. < 1337292174 406426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not again. < 1337292220 778754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how Gretell sometimes announces my deaths slightly before they hit my screen. < 1337292289 905022 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to eat HP? < 1337292892 87359 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133671.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1337293852 799946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> group [3,3,1,3] < 1337293853 609456 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[3,3],[1],[3]] < 1337294527 964709 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337294833 479544 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337295720 364708 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1337295947 868593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile in ##crawl it has always sort of bothered me that i am not poop < 1337296088 461557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to eat HP? < 1337296114 443084 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(HP = hit points, I guess?) < 1337296125 748096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To eat HP, you just explode. < 1337297047 591938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was playing Dungeons&Dragons game earlier this week; when it is time to continue, I must figure out what to do next. King may be poison maybe we have to figure out first. And there is scepter of anti-magic, how can we get it where we need it, if it might disable the magic which allows us to get there? < 1337297104 684025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pack it in a sufficiently large container? But then the container won't fit through the magic portal. < 1337297438 159448 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337299406 517128 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337300099 479346 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Triple facepalm. There’s someone on IRC with a problem: he’s hosting an interactive web map of his Minecraft world. The users of the gentleman’s map keep getting blacklisted. You see, he’s using a brilliant security program that bans clients who keep receiving HTTP 4xx responses, and map areas with no content are disclosed to clients with HTTP 404. < 1337300188 740778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1337300212 63788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What channels do you even hang out in that get problems like that? I want to join them. < 1337300430 835103 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1337300520 31141 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, just #donttellelliottaboutthischannel < 1337300527 751183 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, i wasn’t supposed to tell you about it. < 1337300542 308703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:22 Names: @elliott < 1337300544 914462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a perfect channel. < 1337300726 776716 :mad!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337300726 794974 :mad!boulam@24.157.253.190 NICK :madbr < 1337300993 684785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: < 1337300994 891230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:29 !lg * min=dur < 1337300994 909270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:29 1630445. ion the Slicer (L11 DSFi), worshipper of Okawaru, slain by a queen bee on D:12 on 2009-08-07, with 11282 points after 17153 turns and -6:02:09. < 1337300995 757953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:29 wow < 1337300999 759912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about to be on FooTV. :P < 1337301090 685080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: So what's with that? And why did you use an even bigger terminal in 2009? < 1337302162 511093 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337302274 75863 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: A broken system clock on a game server, i guess. < 1337302279 855052 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What was my terminal size? < 1337302283 855198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too big. < 1337302641 625938 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337302797 773043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, monqy < 1337302821 444511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1337302845 864262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like people who clear lambdabot messages before speaking in channels. < 1337302846 14795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337302847 759612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It ruins everything. < 1337302861 678886 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337302861 983765 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYTHING. < 1337302872 258338 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if I don't have anything to say here then how will I check my messages!! < 1337302872 470125 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337302877 395880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1337302886 92622 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but I had something to say < 1337302886 835272 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: that < 1337302917 301124 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nobodyinparticular I hate people who leave messages to nonexistent nicks on lambdabot, thereby taking up its disk space for absolutely no reason. < 1337302917 501154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337302926 984476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :nobodyinparticul < 1337302929 950133 :nobodyinparticul!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1337302933 448605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337302936 72734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've ruined it forever. < 1337302939 344901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think even I can remove that. < 1337302957 523594 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bahaha < 1337302963 422845 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't even thinking about the length. < 1337302966 765823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, < 1337302978 732732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02 @print-notices < 1337302978 904455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02 fromList [("\SI",(Nothing,[Note {noteSender = "Sgeo", noteContents = "that I said hi", noteTime = (1336513878,173020000000), noteType = Tell}])),[...] < 1337302983 830551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is still the most ruiner. < 1337302990 472160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruinerest < 1337302996 685254 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @tell elliott @quote < 1337302996 841492 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Consider it noted. < 1337303006 484933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1337303006 667114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337303008 38188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1337303008 210717 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion said 11s ago: kilimanjaro says: the bad kind of laziness is "so they just invent an equivalance class of monotonic continuous functions that `represent' that partial order. but they haven't < 1337303008 285893 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :taken a shower in like 10 days!" < 1337303299 685912 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --en-all 50 < 1337303303 907635 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: en-all < 1337303311 360973 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never remember the args for that < 1337303349 585181 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-all 50 < 1337303356 171637 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitte haw lup station ovzai knolek gatomianec epitatethy vilt anik moiieyuehr fttive hista caperadi dissen clon kersolum wbent akpackada packforen ableptally pazar balla spher cef < 1337303363 499012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --help | paste < 1337303367 172487 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29925 < 1337304389 50032 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337304410 603553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read the longer message I wrote about Ibtlfmm programming so far? I may write the second message later on too. < 1337304421 865329 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is an entire fire < 1337304430 67688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/fire/file/ < 1337304491 37452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an entire fire < 1337304518 456225 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't write everything so I will then write the second one < 1337305118 563424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing, I would like in Ibtlfmm, possibly a Haskell compiler could implement it too, but I don't know of any way to do this in Haskell, is: You can load a program dynamically (dynLoad :: Typeable x => FilePath -> IO x) and then x is the type of main in whatever file you are loading (you get an error if the types do not match). < 1337305177 242586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any Haskell compiler with anything like this? < 1337305286 841566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint lets you write a function like that. < 1337305295 592868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, with that exact type. < 1337305296 972629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/hint < 1337305458 60757 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337305530 901988 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337305532 658385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see. < 1337305544 425788 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337305593 158114 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337305858 100854 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337305939 850597 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you explain? < 1337305957 610472 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337306053 924041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Sure. < 1337306064 913989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint exposes the GHC API in a simple manner. < 1337306079 935482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need loadModules + interpret. < 1337306084 762687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And runInterpreter.) < 1337306141 729044 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1337306239 31003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if it is a binary file which is not a package? < 1337306827 992655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"omee~" -- monqy, 2012 < 1337306893 928980 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant omee! < 1337306905 472157 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ is like right next to !!! < 1337306913 862301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a key that inserts "!!!" < 1337306920 446602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway im going to stick with "omee~" < 1337306923 940290 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337306929 497390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ophanim: omee~ < 1337306932 758392 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :854) ophanim: omee~ < 1337306938 173192 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1337306943 190631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 854 < 1337306947 181114 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* ophanim: omee~ < 1337306948 845884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1337306951 970647 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1337306955 160035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 853 < 1337306959 246202 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :853) I vastly prefer "a blind idiot god". pikhq: to what? To the idea of someone actually intentionally designing a mouse. < 1337306992 530882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that one funny < 1337307300 147522 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337307397 385035 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337307479 990288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 853 < 1337307482 700633 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* I vastly prefer "a blind idiot god". pikhq: to what? To the idea of someone actually intentionally designing a mouse. < 1337307500 289213 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, only funny things are allowed to be quoted < 1337307504 754056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not know < 1337307513 96308 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will inform ais < 1337307555 941018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1337307558 435123 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1337307563 643345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your quote is reinstated < 1337307576 94453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa neat < 1337307578 601306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please contact the retention department < 1337307599 460901 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337307599 796546 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337307600 405299 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337307600 655853 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337307600 991819 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337307609 615903 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 274 seconds < 1337307609 659447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a many quote < 1337307609 677764 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :39) [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective < 1337307611 100559 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :606) lol :( < 1337307622 536208 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :95) I don't know that I've ever heard apocalypi described in terms of depth ... < 1337307623 100684 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :200) OK, let's reduce the human genome to 4 chromosomes, in 2 homologous pairs. < 1337307624 504699 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :19) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1337307653 740215 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a great 5 quote < 1337307661 881532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: which will you delete ???? < 1337307664 296649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying they're all bad < 1337307667 57760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they're mostly good :( < 1337307700 576230 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tempted to delete 606 < 1337307712 126671 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is 95 < 1337307726 524573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but it's so sad :( < 1337307736 794797 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337307740 885392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337307741 230483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337307741 576894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337307742 794201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337307744 701402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337307750 26225 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :785) what a world it would be if you could actually *steal* code so that the other project has to rewrite it or infiltrate your project to steal it back < 1337307755 170152 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :227) GCC: -Os -O2 -O3 gives a 4x improvment < 1337307762 372599 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :829) there was a time when I liked wearing a tie too.. I was a mormon. not claiming one has to be a religious nutcase to wear a tie, of course < 1337307765 84751 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :837) Very much like "cen" is Latin for "horse", "yak" is Latin for "yak". < 1337307766 58392 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :117) alise: nobody is allowed to fnord me in soviet russia < 1337307802 307714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it permitted to specify -O2 and -O3 together? < 1337307809 64918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its up to monqy this time < 1337307814 379551 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoteaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa < 1337307816 528158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also < 1337307817 112018 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quoteaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: not found < 1337307817 962749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time < 1337307855 968051 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm bad at choices :( < 1337307877 108861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ypou're even worse than me at choices maybe < 1337307880 78036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you manage to do anythng < 1337307882 640191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything < 1337307883 469721 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt < 1337307887 324744 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get 227 is it funny < 1337307888 342415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how are you monqy!!! < 1337307904 282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :227 is funny because asiekierka did not realise those options cannot be used together < 1337307908 167006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was doing some "benchmarking" < 1337307918 225361 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i now get it < 1337307924 628806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and compared -Os -O2 -O3 to -O2 or something < 1337307940 740989 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to imagine -O2 to -O3 being a 4x improvement. < 1337307941 963551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres two types of allowed quotes < 1337307943 374565 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not impossible, but hard. < 1337307945 104156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny quotes < 1337307946 359787 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :-O0 to -O3, maybe. < 1337307952 263612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quotes that exist to shame or mock the person quoted < 1337307957 990522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monqy < 1337307959 194912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like these ones < 1337307960 969505 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :315) I've only watched bad movies about video game. I enjoyed every second of it. \ 355) my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup \ 358) `quote django < 1337307974 94711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1337307975 328207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :old monqy < 1337307978 774799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"missed" < 1337307981 699474 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337307994 207085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also dislike quotation 606, it is the only one I have seen so far which I would vote to delete; it is too short and small < 1337307996 7509 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i had a time machine i would clone old monqy and make friends with him < 1337308013 152023 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would also need a clone machine < 1337308016 966988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the time machine is within you!!! < 1337308025 960731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote if i had a time machine i would clone old monqy and make friends with him i would also need a clone machine < 1337308028 975748 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :855) if i had a time machine i would clone old monqy and make friends with him i would also need a clone machine < 1337308053 564236 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308053 885022 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308054 206240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308054 559682 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308054 950543 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308064 883060 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :518) well, you have bested me itidus20: Yes. < 1337308078 737391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :518 is the best < 1337308079 944791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of this batch < 1337308082 833760 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :765) elliott: but, there are imps around, the pad. it's hard to remember though your cross-hairs would never settle on an innocent little girl. chokes up now imagine she's white. < 1337308083 259056 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :253) Deewiant: ha, you were wrong, I have stacks, fungespace and MULTIPLE functions! and a monad! nothing can stop me now! < 1337308084 640923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even have to see the others to know that < 1337308085 368985 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :261) [on egojoust] The fact is that EgoBot's % handling is O(slow) and O(big), and mine isn't. < 1337308085 723793 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :592) [from 2009] That's confusing. I have been indoctrinated to believe W|A, but on the other hand it's hard to unbelieve a book with such a ridiculously impressive name as "Handbook of physical testing of paper, Volume 2". < 1337308118 873233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No you have to compare all of them to consider which one is best, unless it is like numeric with one highest infinity involved < 1337308122 947975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably should delete one of mine < 1337308125 972183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, it's exactly like that < 1337308133 970015 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys! < 1337308139 33742 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Five months tongue-face-smiley free! < 1337308142 59642 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of your quotes i vote for 253 or 261 < 1337308145 612568 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost didn't even notice! < 1337308151 517024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I see :P < 1337308155 639115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: thank < 1337308158 101477 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've learned a valuable life lesson never to use tongue face smiley < 1337308170 624664 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 253 < 1337308173 702281 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Deewiant: ha, you were wrong, I have stacks, fungespace and MULTIPLE functions! and a monad! nothing can stop me now! < 1337308176 755370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what was the lesson < 1337308177 989032 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to delquote 260 as well < 1337308181 531945 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: :P < 1337308183 603742 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never to use tongue face smiley < 1337308200 277424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: when was the lesson < 1337308201 31460 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this something you committed to doing? < 1337308202 518601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you learn it < 1337308208 374494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget!!! < 1337308212 452982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1337308214 4257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help :P < 1337308214 872482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308215 208782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308216 484449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308218 460150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308220 396806 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :571) OK, making myself emergency doctor on the advice of IRC. < 1337308221 783021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308222 436091 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :246) We originally wrote this article in Word, but then we converted it to Latex to make it look more like science. < 1337308224 789972 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :459) That offers me some social standing, feudal system wise < 1337308225 378599 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :100) I perceived it so hard I actually went away :O < 1337308231 88162 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :323) Oh, Hitler! You and your wacky antics! < 1337308241 281802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 or 323 imo < 1337308248 463084 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 323 < 1337308251 713567 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Oh, Hitler! You and your wacky antics! < 1337308266 106392 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can delete 100 too if you feel it in you < 1337308278 433132 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? no feeling < 1337308292 259147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does monqy ever feel < 1337308307 295571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have gone for 100 imo but otoh 100 is traditional < 1337308337 918071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think im going to < 1337308339 844084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :undo that delete < 1337308340 752288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for now < 1337308342 300354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1337308343 934122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sory monqy < 1337308344 278026 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1337308347 931943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can put it back if you want < 1337308348 446177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1337308349 391109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lack < 1337308350 673659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of quote 323 < 1337308371 630239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308372 146336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308373 47447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308373 562051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308375 657008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308379 647413 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :244) elliott: are you kidding? you're horrible, horrible people. That's why I feel at home here. < 1337308385 943206 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :602) Hulu's movie selection is like MST3K without the MST3K characters. < 1337308395 723401 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :711) myndzi\: ok so one of the nastiest puzzles i suppose is... you're on death row.. you don't want to die. < 1337308395 830235 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :578) THERE WAS A VISIBLE SUPERNOVA AND NOBODY FUCKING TOLD ME??????????????????????????/ < 1337308397 536882 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :249) gah, why does lose keep winning? < 1337308439 388082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :244 or 249 or 578 < 1337308446 657007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :711 is the best there < 1337308469 49762 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 578 < 1337308471 870599 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* THERE WAS A VISIBLE SUPERNOVA AND NOBODY FUCKING TOLD ME??????????????????????????/ < 1337308474 638542 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 249 < 1337308478 194907 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* gah, why does lose keep winning? < 1337308480 981765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :agree wait no stop < 1337308483 922090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only delete one monqy!! < 1337308486 496440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it' sthe rules < 1337308488 124019 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i < 1337308489 629190 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopsed it < 1337308493 815978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless there's < 1337308494 977762 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant to delquote 244 < 1337308498 40470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1337308498 992241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two really really bad ones < 1337308500 540985 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1337308500 736505 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 244 < 1337308503 668244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh; that's reasonable < 1337308503 700605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :244 is bad < 1337308504 303534 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* elliott: are you kidding? you're horrible, horrible people. That's why I feel at home here. < 1337308506 82483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is pretty lame yes < 1337308509 84426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308509 563328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308510 83029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308511 120886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308513 21011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308515 616731 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :12) GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. < 1337308515 954683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a hard job but we do it < 1337308522 347931 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :97) Why are the cops in GTA always so obsessed with my asshole? < 1337308534 97654 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :601) Let us discuss the correct procedure for converting LP -> FLAC The correct procedure is: you put the LP into a flatbed scanner, scan it as a Windows .bmp file, and then rename that file to .flac. < 1337308534 365940 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :100) I perceived it so hard I actually went away :O < 1337308536 392284 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :711) interestingly enough it takes about as much time for a person to produce cfunge as it does to create a baby. < 1337308545 705674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :601 is good < 1337308546 697843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 is best < 1337308552 446523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :711 is ok < 1337308554 686331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 97 < 1337308558 197469 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Why are the cops in GTA always so obsessed with my asshole? < 1337308560 313225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308560 655243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308561 173858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308562 209339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308564 276294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308570 945083 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :476) It's ok guys. I am doing what I can to keep my psyche and ego surviving. All the while the threat of ww3 looms, the mortality of family and friends(loved ones?) and sooner or llater my own mortality. < 1337308574 340159 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :433) Dear eHow: Please don't assume that my toilet works like that Or, at least, my toilet looks different < 1337308584 243763 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :476 is good < 1337308584 348836 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :184) HOT SEXY SEX BITS < 1337308584 408547 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :515) well, you have bested me itidus20: Yes. < 1337308587 755393 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :646) If you jump a car from a ramp and hit the wall of a building, in midair, you tend to get ejected up and fly to the sky-ceiling, then slowly slide at that height to one corner of the world; then you land, make a complicated spinning-around thing for a while, and then explode. Also probably works in real life? < 1337308589 773155 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :433 is good too < 1337308595 475846 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :515 also good < 1337308606 556035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't decide if 184 is good or not < 1337308609 64838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :646 is also good < 1337308614 280838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :184 is something i don't think we can ever delete < 1337308619 611663 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's traditional < 1337308620 562059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :515 is what was 518 until some were deleted < 1337308628 987389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that can only be sarcastic ;( < 1337308640 199343 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry i decided like it!! < 1337308641 19322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monqy < 1337308644 68134 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :312) I've only watched bad movies about video game. I enjoyed every second of it. \ 352) my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup \ 355) `quote django < 1337308646 977041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a 300-quoter! < 1337308653 16322 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean < 1337308658 632895 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of my quotes are over 300? < 1337308659 63003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you joined when there were only ~300 quotes < 1337308661 756183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is how we rank people now < 1337308664 411028 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337308668 673517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you got addquoted soon after you joined < 1337308670 636831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you were hilarious < 1337308677 608651 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i joined later but the quotes got delquoted < 1337308686 365284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well these are the quotes now < 1337308690 310853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337308691 357188 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1337308691 375102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"our quote id system sucks" < 1337308697 326757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know the quote ids used to be not reused < 1337308700 44876 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are still a 300 quoter baby < 1337308701 201225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it used -- seriously -- sqlite < 1337308714 233063 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to be hilarious again :'( < 1337308715 676695 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308715 957026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308716 243985 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308716 586367 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308717 908980 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah those were the days < 1337308719 289598 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308726 568237 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :501) Oh god. I've become a metallurgy hipster. < 1337308731 462946 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :786) fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that? fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord < 1337308732 603984 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i love one-to-one mappings of numders to quotes < 1337308740 645611 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that we could have them back < 1337308740 846096 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :50) no Deewiant No?! I've been living a lie yep. Excuse me while I jump out of the window -> < 1337308740 876913 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :338) 3 = 7/2 < 1337308744 223139 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :541) The only happy dorf has a compassion stat of 0. Well, 20, but it amounts to the same. < 1337308756 289781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :541 imho < 1337308766 97842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 541 < 1337308769 654334 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* The only happy dorf has a compassion stat of 0. Well, 20, but it amounts to the same. < 1337308771 406681 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 338 < 1337308779 597236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: were you ever here for fax < 1337308787 526121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka crystal-cola aka j-invariant aka faxathisia < 1337308793 422866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka quantumEd aka MissPigy aka uhhh soupdragon < 1337308796 908364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka ... probably more < 1337308797 821252 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i joined before 338 but i don't remember this < 1337308813 836788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's impossible to explain if you don't remember fax really < 1337308817 454495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs < 1337308848 17206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on HackEgo!!! < 1337308849 644702 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1337308852 251719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! < 1337308856 564293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs [<]crystal-cola[>] < 1337308856 790539 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego no < 1337308865 979599 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.19740 < 1337308907 912922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-04-21.txt:15:02:26: anyway I've stopped ``trolling'' < 1337308907 931318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-04-21.txt:15:02:44: since apparently you guys don't like me claiming obviously false and absurd claims < 1337308912 768221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god this paste is the best ever < 1337308961 104285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: read all of that and you'll probably understand crystal-cola < 1337308965 323314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the first few pages of trolling < 1337308965 960617 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337308988 502861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308988 845437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308989 363100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308990 396463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308992 539751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337308999 243895 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :834) they call finnish human-readable? < 1337309004 697526 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :268) back to legal tender, that expression really makes me daydream. Like, there'd be black-market tender. Out-of-town hug shops where people exchange tenderness you've NEVER SEEN BEFORE. < 1337309012 171329 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :469) ais523, how are we supposed to guess before you tell us unless you give us more hints? < 1337309013 520723 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :125) Gregor-P: I don't think lambda calculus is powerful enough < 1337309014 574288 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :375) You make a fist, shake it at the sky, and shout "why, GNU, why?!" -- that is the standard reportig practice. < 1337309041 623061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like 268 and 375 and probably 469 < 1337309044 36370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 834 is good too < 1337309054 41814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 125 falls under the shaming/mockery categroy < 1337309056 803073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*categoy < 1337309162 681453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1337309170 448914 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309170 683567 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309170 970001 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309171 261524 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309171 988928 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309176 707202 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"moving on" < 1337309180 224672 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"with quote, life" < 1337309181 120282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :agree < 1337309185 408885 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :595) Dear god stop staring at me. no never monqy is always staring at everyone. it takes many eyes to do this but I manage He is an inspiration to us all. < 1337309186 361596 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "hi" < 1337309190 326779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: didnt you mean semicolon there < 1337309193 940698 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "do you like stroopwafels too" < 1337309203 990915 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :586) Vorpal: who needs cars when you can walk to latvia < 1337309206 452267 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :739) When you die in Canada, you die in real life. < 1337309206 631068 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: whats a stroopwafels < 1337309207 627074 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :170) I got a game in my cereal box and I want to run it lol < 1337309208 508137 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :655) Magnetic butterfly is slower than cat and restarting if you make a mistake is slower than vi is slower than mind-reading. < 1337309224 875717 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "its good, you like it" < 1337309230 294607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 170 < 1337309261 904120 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 170 < 1337309266 349601 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* I got a game in my cereal box and I want to run it lol < 1337309276 409746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309277 110890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309278 329590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309280 260011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309281 816146 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :219) And to think: if only we wouldn't celebrate birthdays, there would be no birthday paradox, and we could get by with half as long hash functions. (What do you mean it doesn't work that way?) < 1337309287 118411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309287 192578 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 170 < 1337309292 499614 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :312) and then there's the slightly annoying one where suddenly, i start rolling forward and i can't stop like i can be having some great sex dream or whatever and then suddenly "oh god not this again" (i go "not this again" but not necessarily realize it's a dream) < 1337309310 433295 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :145) cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here. < 1337309328 980454 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :299) elliott: parents who put just "Chris" on a birth certificate are... like parents who put just "Bob" on a birth certificate. < 1337309330 70865 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :170) i like the feeling of freedom you get driving a bus < 1337309330 89507 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :817) I don't even know set theory I haven't a clue what is going on wow got that 1 right < 1337309348 219792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably 817 < 1337309357 715754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: were you around for cpressey/catseye/ZOMGMODULES visiting us regularly < 1337309365 763831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fear you might have missed it and i'm so sorry for you < 1337309368 719283 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive seen ZOMGMODULES around but i dont think so :( < 1337309377 299082 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel sorry for me too < 1337309385 906791 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 817 < 1337309388 840333 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* I don't even know set theory I haven't a clue what is going on wow got that 1 right < 1337309408 388958 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "if eel sor ryfory ou" < 1337309520 958582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309521 304942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309521 995702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309523 31139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309525 132077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309529 581211 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :211) I can play crysis, but not minecraft? < 1337309532 904055 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :265) lol @ closed character set standard "What does this codepoint represent?" "Nobody knows." < 1337309543 163876 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :212) Maybe they should just get rid of Minecraft. If more people want it someone can make using GNU GPL v3 or later version, with different people, might improve slightly. < 1337309545 716055 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :260) $ perl -e '/? <-- HERE/' Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/? <-- HERE <-- HERE/ at -e line 1. < 1337309546 188364 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :93) I seem to think of coaxial cables as being omnipotent somehow. < 1337309556 164737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :211 < 1337309558 645470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"imo" < 1337309618 226281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: `imo' < 1337309624 191237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iyo < 1337309628 635978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iyho < 1337309638 332991 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``ieo'' < 1337309641 236208 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `ieo'': not found < 1337309650 524933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im going to have to do it arent i :( < 1337309668 376679 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm debating between 211 and 93 < 1337309674 511966 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fond of either < 1337309675 273269 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 211' < 1337309678 127333 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1337309690 828951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think 93 is mostly ok < 1337309695 202321 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 211 < 1337309698 531807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not astonishing but < 1337309698 702232 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* I can play crysis, but not minecraft? < 1337309698 923035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by popular opinion < 1337309702 553007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we got rid of most of the early-quote crappiness < 1337309705 348564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ages ago < 1337309707 986045 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309708 356122 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309708 601592 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309708 918782 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309709 233882 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337309720 698534 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :255) oerjan: Tell us what (a(b{c}d)*2e)%2 expands to <-- ababcdbcdedbabcdbcdede, i think oerjan: What - the - fuck < 1337309732 949265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 255 < 1337309736 308934 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :350) my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup < 1337309739 77995 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :490) Well, I'm now experimenting with clients It doesn't sound like good PR to say that out loud. < 1337309739 134500 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :760) elliott: to be honest, it doesn't exist in a state of almost perpetual stalemate, and expands to a larger board and more exotic collection of what he refers to as a thermal hull, instead of some kind of clock pun. no, dammit, will this breakfast injure his shrill, bearded, scraggly old men in space. jade's radioactive, omnipotent, space-warping dog named... < 1337309739 509342 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :33) i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. < 1337309745 108515 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { $(bin/quote | awk '{print $1 $2}'); }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337309750 751069 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: 462): command not found \ bash: 654): command not found \ bash: 476): command not found \ bash: 641): command not found \ bash: 142): command not found \ < 1337309760 83555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :350 is perfect obviously < 1337309764 302794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :490 is ok < 1337309768 614938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :760 is fungot, and so sacrosanct < 1337309769 487334 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: bt ftw? :p. ugh i need to do the design as well, < 1337309781 93575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :33 is only there for the self-reference and it's crap but < 1337309781 568800 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337309785 990771 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :730) 806) 368) 91) 412) < 1337309807 178754 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorcery. < 1337309823 501174 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good function < 1337309829 521771 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is the quote < 1337309841 320024 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"who cares" < 1337309845 526749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1337309846 429575 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1337309851 401362 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :want a fight??? < 1337309857 249 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :'( < 1337309860 9732 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1337309860 874032 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go away < 1337309873 419502 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337309878 353061 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :43) I 106) if 585) [from 2009] 474) It's 76) Warrigal < 1337309887 50557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i if it's warrigal < 1337309898 896757 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1337309907 451176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it warrigal < 1337309909 965942 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "hi monqy"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337309915 27743 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :661) Vorpal: your hi monqy 63) oohhh hi monqy 609) isn't a hi monqy 686) You should hi monqy 196) That is hi monqy < 1337309915 605102 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that by "it's" you mean "you're" and by "i" you mean "say 'i'". < 1337309924 725676 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : You should hi monqy < 1337309942 904678 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "hi monqy"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337309947 420884 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :662) Life expectancy hi monqy 583) Just goes hi monqy 194) So it's hi monqy 344) Scotland turns hi monqy 658) I am hi monqy < 1337309956 24924 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337309969 546716 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, *I* am hi monqy! < 1337309982 510998 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3360153036711&l=6945039e9e I made myself a pin to commemorate this auspicious day. < 1337310015 616914 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I get a pin oo < 1337310016 380568 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too < 1337310017 556788 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: did you give it up for lent and then never stop < 1337310020 339031 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our watch, sir, as you know, has comprehended two auspicious persons. < 1337310021 546162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: pls actually make that < 1337310026 90500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310026 436687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310026 955590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310027 993041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310030 90513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310030 504749 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hey, what's a version of Windows you hate? < 1337310037 195452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows < 1337310039 216942 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :618) i am sorry to disappoint you, but my musical taste is on the side abba, verdi, and celine dion. i know this may not be popular and that you would have preferred me to be a satanist. < 1337310040 473634 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "for elliott"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337310041 715761 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :662) Life expectancy now is a function of whether you go berserk or not. < 1337310048 136258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: stop < 1337310052 438745 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :646) clearly darth needs something gray and big and proving the uncountability of the reals < 1337310053 382621 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :529) I didn't realise nickel apparently can't be shaped into a screw because of some fundamental feature of dwarven physics. < 1337310053 538336 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :248) actually, I think vorpal is the "retarded team member" to the left < 1337310053 717713 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :642) You know for elliott 822) A lot for elliott 666) elliott: it for elliott 817) ais523: well, for elliott 151) pigeons are for elliott < 1337310067 503247 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh. :-( < 1337310069 3166 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why God invented the pigeon. < 1337310075 533512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i laughed at pigeons are for elliott < 1337310082 694545 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yay" < 1337310087 211044 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "the devil"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337310091 622240 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :238) bin canary karma lib maketext monqy paste quotes share wisdom quintopia sits the devil 120) alise, marble the devil 741) `delquote 419 the devil 679) also, why the devil 75) It's not the devil < 1337310092 896875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: can you stop we need to delete quotes!!! < 1337310095 169210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: which should we delete < 1337310099 752781 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: hey, what's a version of Windows you hate? // I only hate the versions that Microsoft was involved i. < 1337310101 880212 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in < 1337310105 410613 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant see the quotes there's too much for elliott < 1337310107 576941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try harder < 1337310110 822627 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: oh, okay. < 1337310117 718423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: its above that < 1337310120 474212 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/quote < 1337310122 912765 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ allquotes | if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ sed "$1q;d" \ else \ grep -P -i -- "$1" \ fi \ else shuf -n 1; fi < 1337310131 997520 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n5 bin/quote < 1337310134 965537 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ allquotes | if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ sed "$1q;d" \ else < 1337310156 790724 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/quote | tail -n+5 | head -n5 < 1337310159 715740 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :else \ grep -P -i -- "$1" \ fi \ else shuf -n 1; fi < 1337310166 768873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: stop you're making monqy's screen scroll!!! < 1337310169 36837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use `url < 1337310177 392017 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url grey tea < 1337310179 596694 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/grey tea < 1337310186 392314 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't really pronounce it like that.) < 1337310226 876579 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 238 < 1337310229 712342 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :238) * quintopia sits on gregor < 1337310231 148267 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's totally how i pronounce "earl grey tea" < 1337310248 272187 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is 238 < 1337310249 346503 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you pronounce it with a grave accent before it? < 1337310255 471848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking < 1337310256 546137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :662 < 1337310258 116004 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: totally < 1337310259 456531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1337310259 834741 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 662 < 1337310260 145436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :248 < 1337310262 628311 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :662) Life expectancy now is a function of whether you go berserk or not. < 1337310276 281554 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "makes no sense"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337310276 408397 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should delete quote 440. < 1337310279 14500 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 440 < 1337310281 156092 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vote 662 < 1337310281 174486 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :659) Can you makes no sense 807) elliott: Apparently makes no sense 75) It's not makes no sense 735) Incest, the makes no sense 694) shachaf: wait, makes no sense < 1337310282 107764 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :440) No nasty sounds for a while now. Going to turn off and on and see if the numbers get worse. < 1337310292 400521 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok 440 also < 1337310297 755030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337310297 928068 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337310298 614613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not < 1337310300 325619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing the game right < 1337310302 321949 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are we beleeting again? < 1337310303 601915 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should also delete quote 288. < 1337310304 807382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this round is disqualified!!!! < 1337310305 500862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310305 864317 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 288 < 1337310306 189602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310307 88301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310308 982153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310311 53612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310312 795057 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaa too much words < 1337310313 837190 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "is disqualified!!!!"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337310314 665709 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for fun? < 1337310317 330218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: stop! it'll get mixed into the quotes! you're all banned from quotes forever < 1337310318 56447 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaffffff :( < 1337310320 427411 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stooooop < 1337310323 656931 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, okay. < 1337310326 511173 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :328) ais523: YOU WILL HAVE YOUR QUOTE SOON < 1337310329 81636 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :91) think of all the starving kids in china who don't have rotting sea life to eat < 1337310332 364524 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: mye game > youre game :'( < 1337310342 214384 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no more quoting or deleting. stop. < 1337310346 857810 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :288) Phantom_Hoover: mutation is often considerably harder for both humans and compilers can analyze it much more difficult' part that induces bloody vomit... huh....intriguing < 1337310347 331619 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :75) It's not incest if you're third cousins! < 1337310348 249287 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :571) Isn't "strip nomic" just another word for all dating, though? < 1337310350 336960 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :553) Intake flooded is disqualified!!!! 259) $ perl is disqualified!!!! 399) I used is disqualified!!!! 10) is disqualified!!!! 181) I don't is disqualified!!!! < 1337310353 308430 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :5) GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. < 1337310361 488852 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :288 is pretty nice. We should keep it. < 1337310372 949093 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :259 is pretty good. < 1337310375 390968 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: does hackego have any bombs you can set off < 1337310377 97458 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "is pretty good!!!!"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337310382 99008 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :104) okay I is pretty good!!!! 738) DeadlyFugu: the is pretty good!!!! 508) the classic is pretty good!!!! 308) elliott: well is pretty good!!!! 23) IN AN ALTERNATE is pretty good!!!! < 1337310384 95518 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to go in a couple of minutes. < 1337310396 779294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :---------- < 1337310397 467979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310398 330109 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 23 < 1337310398 680157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310399 232319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310400 812053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1337310405 283938 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oops" < 1337310407 208383 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :777) the allocation is done by the "Dynamic" in DRAM before that we used SRAM where everything was preallocated in the factory olsner: So what's this SDRAM then? fizzie: synchronized, it's for multithreading < 1337310417 813237 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :773) Quinary computers replace the cache with a quiche. < 1337310420 666974 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :23) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, ehird has taste" < 1337310421 441156 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :429) the thing about modern semiconductor design is, 0s are more powerful as 1s < 1337310464 789769 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "should be turned into a HackEgo command!"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337310469 581211 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :543) game where should be turned into a HackEgo command! 285) elliott, incidentally, should be turned into a HackEgo command! 459) The Russian's should be turned into a HackEgo command! 118) AnMaster: to should be turned into a HackEgo command! 188) well i should be turned into a HackEgo command! < 1337310479 633561 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :285) elliott, incidentally, should be turned into a HackEgo command! < 1337310495 826522 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :netcraft confirms it < 1337310507 878144 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf stop :( < 1337310536 645728 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: okaye :-( < 1337310548 278591 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337310550 234115 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. ⎛ < 1337310557 417106 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : - ⎜ < 1337310561 617671 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1337310563 364997 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. ⎛ < 1337310569 538139 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : - ⎜ < 1337310577 63977 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. ⎝ < 1337310580 484144 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oopse" < 1337310584 836865 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. ⎛ < 1337310592 14573 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- ⎜ < 1337310594 980773 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. ⎝ < 1337310596 348583 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing < 1337310616 763336 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-(ing < 1337310632 331886 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . < 1337310636 482130 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1337310647 371540 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"uh oh" < 1337310648 383738 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :/mode +b EVERYONE < 1337310658 78023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just < 1337310672 220637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1337310723 319931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310723 836878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310725 43045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310725 740680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310727 289772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337310730 752025 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :254) so you have legacy software in befunge that needs supported? < 1337310732 52264 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :337) [...] OOPS.. my cockfile got destroyed < 1337310734 222413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :grrrr < 1337310736 344868 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :826) itidus21: hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, h < 1337310740 942261 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :291) 00:07 Sgeo has quit (IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ.) 00:12 Sgeo has joined #esoteric. < 1337310742 119553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what < 1337310745 941900 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :444) The zipWith Camel, a famous World War 1 era airplane. < 1337310754 320887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 337 < 1337310763 562404 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you really need to keep spamming the channel with quotes :/ < 1337310774 379768 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┌──────────────────────────────────────────────┐ < 1337310777 205620 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"at least it's better than shachaf's game" < 1337310777 476237 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :│ ＥＭＰＬＯＹＥＥ ＯＦ ＴＨＥ ＭＯＮＴＨ： │ < 1337310792 375902 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :│ ｓｈａｃｈａｆ │ < 1337310792 376112 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :└──────────────────────────────────────────────┘ < 1337310792 376222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's our national op-endorsed past-time! < 1337310793 967548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it stops if anyone talks about/wants to talk about esolangs < 1337310799 499640 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "oh no :'(" < 1337310805 2711 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "what did i do" < 1337310808 641552 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :complaining about `quote is close enough to talking about esolangs < 1337310832 233793 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: good pointe < 1337310864 719922 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "is hard. let's go shopping!"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337310867 162908 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1337310883 69277 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " "is hard. let'\''s go shopping!"}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337310888 26453 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :461) God, I is hard. let's go shopping! 141) So basically is hard. let's go shopping! 553) Intake flooded is hard. let's go shopping! 479) cigaretes and is hard. let's go shopping! 721) Just because is hard. let's go shopping! < 1337310936 259082 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run function foo() { bin/quote | awk '{print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " " <----- that'\''s a terrible quote :'\''("}'; }; echo $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) $(foo) < 1337310940 678112 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :479) cigaretes and <----- that's a terrible quote :'( 789) bleh, why <----- that's a terrible quote :'( 660) I'm neither <----- that's a terrible quote :'( 327) destroying a <----- that's a terrible quote :'( 818) is tswett <----- that's a terrible quote :'( < 1337310982 484788 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 818 < 1337310982 671335 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION away < 1337310985 671647 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :818) is tswett Warrigal? < 1337310991 152010 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 818 < 1337310994 583968 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* is tswett Warrigal? < 1337311008 450918 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raar. < 1337311051 517314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1337311066 539411 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1337311150 108636 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337311377 812790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to work the Netplay on TGB-Dual without resulting in synchronization errors? < 1337311381 882850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337311386 740331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no :( ) < 1337312167 16836 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337312693 537335 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1337313372 501062 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: apparently in some legacy encodings, a character is double-width iff it takes two bytes < 1337313593 665430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think that does make some sense < 1337313688 266781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would explain the name. < 1337314257 202628 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337314328 277731 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337315086 739672 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337316407 730186 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1337316420 755456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :day < 1337316524 501000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :knight < 1337316564 415335 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337318054 993725 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dais < 1337319180 449730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you prove that you have never been to the moon? < 1337319207 367532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337319207 495369 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337319272 279976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1337319272 409104 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 6 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337319310 327219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1337319310 461333 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 13 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337319510 679640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the farthest object you can examine by telescope? < 1337319812 844988 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends how big the telescope is < 1337319835 881485 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337320432 722199 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Want an EXCITING MATHEMATICAL PUZZLE? < 1337320447 847895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read an article in 2600 once where someone combined all the lenses for the telescope to watch the moon extremely closely < 1337320488 301827 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1337320501 625283 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: How many "8"s can you fit on a plane? < 1337320548 754962 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8s are too intangible to fit on a plane < 1337320596 86829 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Non-overlapping 8 shapes, where an 8 shape is two tangent circles. < 1337320643 759115 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough < 1337320660 667205 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly you can fit ℵ_1 non-overlapping circles on a plane. < 1337320670 755399 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not so clear about 8s. < 1337320677 768377 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a number < 1337320686 501037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1337320687 170678 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. :-( < 1337320700 566975 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have outlogicked me. < 1337320741 299504 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337320803 474298 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, is one of the circles allowed to have radius 0? < 1337320823 241055 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it has radius 0 it's not a circle is it < 1337320826 491255 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"silly goose" < 1337320831 734054 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what monqy said" < 1337321306 225121 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337321414 534514 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337321625 980505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337321660 169267 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1337324214 316089 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i've ever had to pee this bad < 1337324218 27041 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1337324222 799932 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is horrible < 1337324238 331870 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried peeing < 1337324241 819540 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1337324243 242602 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear it helps < 1337324245 884370 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't come to that < 1337324279 354372 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe i'll do that < 1337324282 659867 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1337325340 427039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see whether the government is putting any satellites there without everyone's knowledge of their existence and function and so on < 1337325429 566520 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1337325488 243461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In orbit! < 1337325733 735507 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: YOU JUST CHANGED EVERYTHING. I AM IN TEARS OF JOY. THANK YOU. < 1337325741 553404 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337326385 161859 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :During the ceremony of joy, monqy was nowhere to be seen. < 1337326576 987397 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you sometimes eat your own blood? < 1337326828 159576 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a bad time to return from AFK, if the last message is reflective of the conversation matter in general... < 1337327001 609582 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is indeed. < 1337327067 393509 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you ever find the Higgs boson inside your computer? < 1337327087 58783 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337327200 394284 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/unplugged/warcraft-starcraft-invade-classic-board-games-194405691.html < 1337327291 602657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tomorrow I will be at Victoria. I like to go to Japanese restaurant. < 1337327352 419060 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw i don't play wow myself and i don't think many here do to be honest < 1337327607 194975 :scottj!~scott@206.212.250.58 PART :#esoteric < 1337328086 353074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337328502 16329 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337329743 379997 :cheater!~cheater@g231044169.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1337330330 163647 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337330330 221730 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337330330 221897 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337330558 178596 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337330588 256956 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this dithered image messes with my eyes http://www.artfulgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/racover0001.png < 1337331849 146822 :cheater!~cheater@g231044169.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1337332350 153404 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-250-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Ordered dither. < 1337333099 902870 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337333105 572844 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1337333636 989310 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337333639 724144 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1337333644 929219 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone ever play "Robot Battle" or "Mech Zone: Robot Battle II" on the Mac? I can't find much info about them... < 1337334745 563550 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hug~♪ < 1337336261 352574 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just had a funny(fsvo funny) idea for a movie: a 2 hour film where you watch a slot machine. *imagine* a cinema full of people watching a slot machine on the big screen < 1337336428 84331 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe with David Attenborough at a narrator. The behaviour of the slot machine in it's native habitat. < 1337336465 380164 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. and an introduction by Morgan Freeman < 1337336565 15109 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the general idea would be that people would find the experience so excruciating and monotonous they would walk out after a few minutes < 1337336631 450086 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would almost be suffocating from their need to press the buttons < 1337338483 690970 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337338528 845094 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337338643 927205 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Taneb < 1337338656 799279 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had a maths exam this morning < 1337338660 616216 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was surprisingly hard < 1337338685 427250 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of maths? < 1337338693 611235 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathsy maths < 1337338703 237137 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best kind :-) < 1337338718 193156 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Core 2 module of OCR's A-level Maths qualification < 1337338818 899768 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pure maths? < 1337338826 841604 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has trigonometry and logs < 1337338850 197768 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And binomial expansion, and arithmetic and geometric sequences < 1337338875 504497 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And integration < 1337338926 72039 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate intergration / differentiation :-( < 1337338958 619025 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I can never remember whether you divide or multiply < 1337338964 349721 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost ended up doing both :/ < 1337339097 172851 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it because we got taught how to do it, but not why it works... < 1337339162 443065 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1337340211 449118 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, BSD3 license. < 1337340218 675543 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I don't have an organization!? < 1337340386 510690 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13227A.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337340474 521474 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1337341332 308580 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs) < 1337341557 61405 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337342191 279998 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337342347 968362 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337342680 187638 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337342809 123034 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337342893 229779 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337343113 610605 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337343810 187571 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337344028 611737 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337344039 410393 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-en < 1337344050 995471 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this madness < 1337344282 493278 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: täällä puhutaan suomea nykyään < 1337344675 375220 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs) < 1337344774 146060 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :joo < 1337344778 980143 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337344792 180127 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337344797 646744 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the etymology of “joo” is? < 1337344885 51929 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :se liittyi jotenkin suomen eduskunnan äänestysjuttuun (tosin siinä taisi lukea jaa-9 < 1337344959 21657 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337344979 191253 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/-9/)/ < 1337344980 397444 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It originating from the Swedish “ja” is plausible, but what made the vowel change to “o”? < 1337345117 817940 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunken finnish? they almost always say o in place of a (at least what I have heard) < 1337345153 195075 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337345178 91473 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337345438 649676 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1337345788 529459 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13227A.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337345820 488593 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13227A.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337346014 322670 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337346033 673663 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afd < 1337346050 527127 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's May! < 1337347571 542013 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have a question. < 1337347585 861428 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it that irc channels are not endlessly swarmed by advertising bots? < 1337347624 326704 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. is it the voice thing and stuff like that? < 1337348384 676354 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because ad bots are annoying and people do not do evil. < 1337348539 244091 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in some non-irc chatrooms, where there is no moderators, there is a constant endless stream of ad bots < 1337348549 240183 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there is even a captcha in the way < 1337348616 324474 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just amazes me that it isn't a problem < 1337348783 634040 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, because there's like no point in adbotting on IRC? < 1337348811 336293 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you spam websites you can get favourable results on search engines. < 1337348814 782537 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC... not so much. < 1337348871 765871 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i see.. the other chatroom is simply a weak target for a small few bot operators < 1337349239 750247 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, so why do they spam MediaWikis? < 1337349251 655968 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought MediaWikis these days have no...something < 1337349326 106678 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a mediawiki is also a weak target < 1337349486 227024 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, but you're far more likely to get links followed from a wiki than an IRC channel. < 1337349583 987418 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think ads in this sense would be just a general form of attack < 1337349641 4099 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and irc is good at staving off attack < 1337349651 882524 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the word staving < 1337349725 930501 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113800/Metalworkers-cooked-death-inside-giant-Austrian-oven-door-closed-800C-furnace-accidentally-switched-on.html < 1337350139 741912 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1337351139 138289 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337353518 616567 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1337353575 779000 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1337354160 292220 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337354160 411957 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337354160 430099 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337354165 319449 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1337354179 731518 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337354179 749797 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1337355423 644647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337355664 241092 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337356841 186366 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337356864 794675 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1337356895 462524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1337357227 827023 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337357828 386857 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-137-171.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337357934 734308 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-139-57.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337358035 152861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337358099 500918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many messages do i have < 1337358099 665659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 27 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337358103 722581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1337358119 866372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:21 @messages < 1337358119 970604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:21 monqy asked 10h 47m 32s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow < 1337358120 54362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:21 monqy asked 10h 47m 29s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow < 1337358121 484708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:21 monqy asked 10h 47m 29s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow < 1337358123 490904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:21 monqy asked 10h 47m 28s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow < 1337358125 493330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:21 monqy asked 10h 47m 27s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow < 1337358131 255383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...] < 1337358132 182980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:22 Plugin `tell' failed with: thread killed < 1337358280 681811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:39:57: I wonder what the etymology of “joo” is? < 1337358284 987752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What's joo? < 1337358312 194303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:26:25: why is it that irc channels are not endlessly swarmed by advertising bots? < 1337358313 758278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :big ones are < 1337358314 854881 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-138-108.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337358319 586927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on freenode though < 1337358337 499284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that shitty racist forum pops up in #haskell every now and then < 1337358503 85269 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-137-171.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337358507 386684 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-138-208.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337358510 40604 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337358529 599832 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART :#esoteric < 1337358560 803217 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1337358584 811614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's more flooding/trolling bots than ads i would say < 1337358590 875793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nobody is going to click an ad < 1337358605 765377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go hang out on efnet if you want some anarchy < 1337358613 972264 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why are you on this channel if you don’t know Finnish? :-( < 1337358632 900576 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://translate.google.fi/#fi|en|joo < 1337358635 134657 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337358637 453039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: trolling so that you enter a state in which u mad, at which point i will achieve enlightenment < 1337358664 383338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something problem? something something y u no something over 9000 something < 1337358710 455958 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-138-108.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337358735 112771 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-124-92.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337358738 728071 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337358763 669437 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything went better than expected. < 1337358903 678072 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337358924 566515 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-138-208.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337359075 448625 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-124-92.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337359088 957730 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337359233 908948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1337359238 87696 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337359254 664673 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-124-92.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337359342 751377 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-124-92.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337359372 14662 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I made some of the suggestions you made to Data.FamilyTree < 1337359379 925821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1337359380 692488 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1337359380 710687 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /< < 1337359386 455273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1337359386 719306 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ < 1337359387 51921 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |   |   |    `\o/´69    |   |   |    `\o/´69    |   |   ¦ < 1337359387 136722 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /|  /|   |\     |     /|  /´\ /'\     |      >\ /<  ´¸¨ < 1337359387 154596 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                /`\                   /'¯|_) < 1337359387 154881 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              (_| |_)               (_| < 1337359393 342882 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided to not change it to Lens FamilyTree (Maybe whatevs) < 1337359417 489511 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of the ID's being reallocated < 1337359464 898190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1337359475 148551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the reallocation would affect. < 1337359484 239974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I think you shouldn't reallocate IDs.) < 1337359502 151284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you don't, then ID has a stronger semantic connection to the given whatevs.) < 1337359535 7226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Another thing you can do with ID is give it a type parameter, so that it looks like "ID Foo -> Lens FamilyTree (Maybe Foo)", and you can't mix up IDs for different things.) < 1337359568 91970 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I reallocate ID's for reasons of space, which helps when you're someone like me and make a lot of mistakes) < 1337359623 556687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Huh? < 1337359627 645828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does space come into it? < 1337359645 681653 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's at least 2^28 possible people, etc < 1337359647 920189 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just mad < 1337359669 406703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Use Integer. < 1337359677 935414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't generally use Int unless you *know* it's limited. < 1337359679 829307 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an IntMap < 1337359689 807537 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 IntMaps < 1337359699 785106 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If IntegerMap exists, I'll be happy to use it < 1337359704 975567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, HashMap Integer is probably just as good. But it's your program :P < 1337359712 755082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know HashMap Int is about as fast (slightly faster?) than IntMap. < 1337359766 821829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't really have to do any of my suggestions, it's just that obviously how *I* would have done it is the objectively correct method. < 1337359775 473006 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1337359929 786412 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337359963 849152 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott understands IRC < 1337359984 892835 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if someone asks how to do X, and you can't think of a use for X within about three seconds, it proves the person is an idiot < 1337360174 673909 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think the other case (someone asks how to do X and it turns out that they're wrong) is much more common, so the bias isn't all that unreasonable. < 1337360193 810639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337360243 44156 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think the attitude isn't so much "you're an idiot" as "the fact that I'm helping you on IRC for free doesn't mean my time is worthless; please don't make it difficult and unpleasant to do so". < 1337360489 2466 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well XY problems really happen, yes < 1337360502 744464 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people are also very quick to jump to that conclusion < 1337360531 456880 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13227A.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1337360549 9627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :About half of all questions asked in #haskell are an XY problem. < 1337360553 625219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably more. < 1337360659 418440 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're worried about other people wasting your time, it's probably better to stay quiet than to berate them for having an XY problem < 1337360672 713605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XY problem? < 1337360672 844379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 6 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337360677 732952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What if I'm worried about helping them? < 1337360695 475190 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then wait for them to say more < 1337360704 115440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They never do, because they don't think they have an XY problem. < 1337360709 99695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They think they need to get Int out of IO Int. < 1337360714 505827 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ask "why do you want to do X" as opposed to "you shouldn't do X because I can't think of a reason for it" < 1337360725 84913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really berating to ask for what they're really trying to do, and to tell them that they don't want to do what they think they do. < 1337360736 619013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except in very rare circumstances.) < 1337360749 93774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But it's usually easy to tell whether such a circumstance could possibly apply to somebody based on how knowledgable they sound.) < 1337360789 913133 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337360950 912685 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337361024 615210 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-200.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337361030 850027 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith3 if' [True, False, True, True, False] (repeat '0') (repeat '1') -- fun! < 1337361032 260915 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "01001" < 1337361052 196739 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never actually used zipWith3 before. It's always been a theoretical thing. < 1337361057 401990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :map (bool '0' '1') is shorter. :p < 1337361089 108350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t bool < 1337361089 811370 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `bool' < 1337361113 610165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let bool False _ b = b; bool True a _ = a < 1337361114 311279 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1337361132 397778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is wrong < 1337361136 195046 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337361148 598117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, map (bool '1' '0'), I mean. < 1337361150 300305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bool x _ False = x; bool _ x True = x; < 1337361154 789677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1337361155 122207 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1337361157 737248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you're right. < 1337361162 607600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except flip the first two arguments. < 1337361163 763354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1337361174 358499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let bool a b p = if p then a else b < 1337361175 79090 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1337361182 328321 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (if' '0' '1') [True, false, True, True, False] < 1337361183 56283 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `if''Not in scope: `false' < 1337361187 7948 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1337361187 126712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (bool '0' '1') [False, False, True, True, False] < 1337361188 559439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "11001" < 1337361193 94517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Wrong argument order. < 1337361199 763019 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T CARE < 1337361248 757766 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let if' n x y = if isPrime n then x else y < 1337361249 435954 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1337361253 933822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, someone claiming that an edwardk package is too slow for their purposes. < 1337361275 476985 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who said that? < 1337361283 970520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone called ghorn. < 1337361325 744515 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better `seq` unsafeDo# (some# unsafeOptimization#) < 1337361368 360479 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seq# < 1337361388 690595 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-200.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337361410 20954 :Foggalong!~Joshua@cpc12-shef11-2-0-cust44.barn.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337361429 159339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers joining #haskell-blah to tease edwardk about it. < 1337361443 835886 :Foggalong!~Joshua@cpc12-shef11-2-0-cust44.barn.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1337361559 90593 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they calling it "an edwardk package"? < 1337361733 627553 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337361773 720665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I knew it was before they even named it. < 1337361775 466833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then they named it. < 1337361806 65239 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on what? It had no documentation? < 1337361864 25347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just know these things, man. < 1337361874 579612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also because I don't know of any other automatic differentiation packages for Haskell. < 1337361915 618380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This month saw quite a lot of activity on StackOverflow, largely from user Clinton trying to puzzle through STM and other concurrency issues." < 1337361929 882747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If by "puzzle through" you mean "assert ridiculous theories about and ignore everyone who explains why they're wrong", sure. < 1337362687 324495 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337362863 662739 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337363426 665154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337363744 341351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the prelude-generalize-0.3.1? < 1337363851 944107 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking of making something like that! < 1337363925 314253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like...? < 1337363932 26355 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prelude-generalize < 1337363952 163221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now there already is. < 1337363975 214893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me if you have a comment about it, thing to add and so on < 1337364015 158045 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is AaronBlack you? < 1337364044 838746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By using terahertz radiation, researchers from the Tokyo Institute of Technology (Suzukakedai campus pictured) set a new record for wireless data transmission speed." < 1337364085 886120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rumors of mutated researchers are completely unfounded. < 1337364264 260730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes that is my name. < 1337364268 388613 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1337364336 106742 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks pretty good! < 1337364463 999712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lists and LogicT are MonadLogic, but so is StateT s [] and so on, so the generalized versions of tail and so on can be used with that too. < 1337364577 54643 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could do with a bit more documentation, I think. But that's just me < 1337364598 261619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may be correct about that. < 1337364761 817702 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C443.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337364761 873582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337365099 927298 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337365153 327596 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, have you seen family-tree ? < 1337365186 613079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: OK I am looking now < 1337365213 388007 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much boob would a noob loop poop if a noop loop could whoopadoop? < 1337365219 118006 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my question < 1337365255 880909 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a noob loop wouldn't poop any boob as the ability to whoopadoop does not correlate in any way with the ability to boob. < 1337365258 273219 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is my answer < 1337365260 185400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand the question. < 1337365357 148378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why you would need to use (LogicT Identity) for anything (other than its existence), since it is like [], but LogicT can be used as a kind of list monad transformer with the monad being transformed going between the list elements < 1337365381 817696 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, also, suggestion: (?) :: Bool -> x -> x -> x (like Bool) < 1337365392 670951 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ke B/ke b/ < 1337365444 777089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No, it is infix operation < 1337365481 832953 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :response ? "yes" $ "no" < 1337365540 202055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way I have it you can do response ? ("no", "yes") but also with things other than booleans; see the class QuestionMarkOp < 1337365557 605617 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, didn't see that < 1337365614 351570 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works too < 1337365658 1416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There appears to be no way to actually call idQMO, although it is mathematically correct as far as I can tell < 1337366076 688110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1337367862 846555 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337369042 769564 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-146-245.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337369053 119592 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-250-178.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337369641 502863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nekogames.jp/g.html?gid=PRM < 1337369837 917338 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, who needs Diablo III? < 1337369855 33331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even understand what i'm doing but i can't stop playing!!! < 1337369966 582901 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game is so much better once you remove those pesky plot, strategy and graphics aspects. < 1337369973 489729 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is a zzo when you need one < 1337369996 967239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you need to fill that blue bar up to unlock things... taht seems difficult < 1337370000 845751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that < 1337370301 612585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't have unlcoked that tough guy. < 1337370322 48753 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you need the key to unlock things ... < 1337370332 633887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. So that was the only thing I could have unlocked? < 1337370335 476987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I unlocked 108/108. < 1337370342 601993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should have gone for 80/80 or something. < 1337370368 947810 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the heck did you get to the point that you could even kill this 32/32 wuss >_> < 1337370382 377504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 46/46. < 1337370391 615098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: When you finished a 100% thing, click it a bunch and you get money. < 1337370399 295427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then click the sword / armour things with prices on them. < 1337370404 636726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They increase your stats. < 1337370410 739184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also distribute your stats with the [+] button at the top. < 1337370419 699618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After that it's just a matter of pressing it a bunch. < 1337370437 146174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, I can't kill this 58/58 thing :( < 1337370451 707708 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I only upped my sword and armor once. < 1337370453 941208 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I just need more. < 1337370547 421836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how money is non-scarce. < 1337370550 661942 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-146-245.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yowza. Facebook IPO'd today. Opening at $38, presently trading at $38.01. < 1337370579 941232 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: and Zynga's down 15.7% < 1337370676 623339 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I killed 32 < 1337370681 922914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1337370682 7274 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1337370682 91654 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /< < 1337370690 735245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 36 is easier than 32, maybe. < 1337370694 393985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's two 36. < 1337370695 880350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiendish. < 1337370718 67741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is giving himself carpal tunnel to raise $860 for more hurty-things power. < 1337370730 668208 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nice game. < 1337370734 148563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The objective of the game is to complete it before your hands become too mangled to play. < 1337370739 445336 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: name. < 1337370756 328560 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are at least three 36en. < 1337370760 630891 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337370782 332446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I defeated the rightmost 36! \o/ < 1337370782 453980 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                               | < 1337370782 580134 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                              /< < 1337370806 404220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not quite good enough for 108. < 1337370924 601941 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the locked 36? < 1337370935 577626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tall one at the right that's locked. < 1337370960 367147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, so close to defeating 108. < 1337370972 429390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What have I become... < 1337371086 136243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What letters have you got < 1337371086 557414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1337371148 132226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I killed 108. < 1337371169 278905 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, I have a gold key. < 1337371172 721722 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have NEGE < 1337371181 994037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NKOGAE here. < 1337371195 150676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful: tdwtf discussion about why most cronds don't have a field for year, zzo38 turns up and recommends sdate as a workaround < 1337371230 159851 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337371236 863754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1337371242 71202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks zzo < 1337371254 137918 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1337371268 85728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1337371833 696271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Whoa, 390 hits hard. < 1337371855 127031 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337371864 671680 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped playing ;) < 1337371870 960419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could you! < 1337371876 220498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets even more fun. < 1337371882 605684 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same way I stopped using the tongue-face smiley. < 1337371884 156539 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cold turkey. < 1337372125 755593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But there's slot machines! < 1337372191 746869 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also slot machines in Pokmon Emerald < 1337372267 485236 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-133-16.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337372476 967355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Play http://nekogames.jp/g.html?gid=PRM! < 1337372481 947540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you want to.) < 1337372909 769568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I now have $15630 :D < 1337372911 521845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND YOU DON'T < 1337372918 600271 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-147-30.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337372923 741905 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-146-245.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337373252 901821 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit that's more money than i have < 1337373259 782060 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'd ya do it son? < 1337373266 505035 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That's Zimbabwe dollars. < 1337373268 865879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clicking a lot. < 1337373293 861491 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: then how come it has a $ and not a ZWD < 1337373304 276820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ is the dollar sign, dude. < 1337373329 395261 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and when you see it, you assume USD, and if that's not possible then CAD and then AUD respectively < 1337373338 37408 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never assume a currency that no longer exists < 1337373449 181255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Most of the late-game consists of repeatedly hitting the slot machine until it turns up 777. < 1337373455 127031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you get a lot of cash. < 1337373468 843394 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337373479 979265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It spits out a bunch of $777s.) < 1337373514 42846 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You THINK it's the late game. But when you finally kill the big monster at the bottom, it'll just advance you to level 2. < 1337373517 850777 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*world 2 < 1337373525 990178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already spoiled myself as to what comes next :P < 1337373531 296864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a big boss with 999 HP. < 1337373538 76065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then that reveals a boss with 9999 HP. < 1337373541 637454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After that the game ends. < 1337373664 671046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD the combo bar is impossible to fill up. < 1337373709 633890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I defeated that boss. < 1337373714 724945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And doubled my RCV! < 1337373793 557518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parameters cleared in 73:35:74 yaaaaay < 1337373806 67532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And attack doubled! < 1337373878 711675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite tough enough to defeat the big bad yet :( < 1337374033 132548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaaay < 1337374063 385542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://ompldr.org/vZHN2eQ < 1337374085 473379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not done yet, though. Oh no. < 1337374095 345102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must discover the remainin two ?s, and exhaust the remaining power-up things. < 1337374146 319202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: remind me never to complain about games again < 1337374161 739970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1337374171 393369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I clearly have no taste in them < 1337374193 997458 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wat < 1337374202 79099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://nekogames.jp/g.html?gid=PRM < 1337374205 784646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play it! < 1337374208 215779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually fun. < 1337374210 670607 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337374213 218703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, is it really possible to talk on IRC over dbus? < 1337374218 138676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, it is as well < 1337374218 640603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Click "English". Then click plya. < 1337374219 721242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*play. < 1337374222 158464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a pointless thing to be able to do < 1337374223 922873 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not load:( < 1337374224 543040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finding out the rules is part of the game! < 1337374225 67062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I said that line over dbus) < 1337374246 183080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KDE seem to have a policy of exposing commands in their applications over dbus by default < 1337374250 660228 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time its load < 1337374257 541108 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's Diablo III for reductionists. < 1337374267 207011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: inherited from the kcop stuff, I think < 1337374271 255043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337374291 693554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why doesn't KDE have a standard way of requesting the URL of the focused tab / all open tabs? < 1337374390 391018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this rate I'm going to have to come up with an API myself and patch it into EVERY LINUX PROGRAM IN EXISTENCE < 1337374403 542269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :iei! < 1337374409 269560 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think I get it. < 1337374484 300911 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is trying Scalatron http://scalatron.github.com (Scala robot programming game) < 1337375066 287508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How are you doing??? < 1337375086 112267 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've run out of keys and I'm using up all my life too fast to kill anything. < 1337375127 943019 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've ran out of keys and things to kill < 1337375132 213560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, why aren't you doing the missions? < 1337375135 299677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no keys. < 1337375140 676691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Have you been upping your stats? < 1337375145 755506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the [+] buttons do. < 1337375150 822985 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337375153 920359 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a fair way. < 1337375153 959924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1337375155 866260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screenshot of your game? < 1337375160 291662 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect I just didn't get enough def. < 1337375162 861307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yours too, perhaps. < 1337375171 828156 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current stats are 37/61/68. < 1337375179 373262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get money by clicking completed missions, btw. < 1337375189 564924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it'd be hard to get the game into a completely unwinnable state. < 1337375288 628217 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but what can I spend it on? < 1337375300 726606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's why I asked for a screenshot :P < 1337375327 607105 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhh, there's a thing you can buy keys from. < 1337375331 743133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1337375363 93576 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAME < 1337375366 376993 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1337375377 392352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: The game isn't randomised, it's the same for everyone ;) < 1337375378 93559 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's impossible to get the game to an unwinnable state. < 1337375390 766465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, is the key-for-money thing always available? < 1337375398 735604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was locked by a key or such. < 1337375450 800135 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember unlocking it < 1337375493 838958 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what do the letters at the top mean?) < 1337375504 195340 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well OK, it might be possible to do it by overextending hugely during the early game. < 1337375507 746338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they do anything. < 1337375517 574896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except make you feel good about collecting them. < 1337375695 561569 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you meant to get the blocks with the question marks in them? < 1337375725 747592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: They unlock; I'm not sure what unlocks them, but as you level up and do stuff they appear; they're generally one-time stat boost things you can click. < 1337375736 970615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't unlocked the last few, though (got tired of hitting the slot machine over and over; will go back to it later). < 1337375779 960638 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do mean the ones with the green things in them? < 1337375780 201254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Phantom_Hoover: One of you should try filling up the combo meter, since I'm terrible at it. :p < 1337375786 455232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Green things? < 1337375789 792781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337375790 646105 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combo meter?? Slot machine?? < 1337375802 914402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The slot machine is one of the ?s that gets unlocked. < 1337375810 25881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The combo meter is the meter below the ACT/DEF line. < 1337375813 319149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fills the width of the screen. < 1337375830 105696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to pump up RCV a ton, then use the ACT. ++ block a bunch to raise your ACT. < 1337375843 219954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you click a completed mission, get some of the gold (doesn't matter how much), and click it again before it expires. < 1337375845 231898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repeatedly. < 1337375847 208929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until the bar fills up. < 1337375864 882572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 100 ACT and 222 RCV and even I'm not good enough to fill it. < 1337375937 129876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's probably easier if you have a mouse, rather than a touchpad. < 1337375951 744585 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh, you mean the incredibly thin black bar that fills with dark blue? < 1337375955 201778 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pro UI design there. < 1337375955 504688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1337375969 803859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, my game clock has rolled over to 99:99:99. < 1337375974 116323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not rolled over. < 1337375975 261446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saturated. < 1337376033 222776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww, I was so close to filling the combo bar. < 1337376117 912838 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, and how do you get the gold keys? < 1337376123 953096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defeating enemies. < 1337376129 509189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of them are behind gold keys, so. < 1337376180 273707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, and completing missions too, I think. < 1337376238 86553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Argh, apparently at least one of the ?s is unlocked by filling the combo meter.. < 1337376258 621102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*meter. < 1337376270 340225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the good news is that you don't have to worry about collecting gold when doing it, because some of it hits your cursor by chance... < 1337376341 191105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JESUS < 1337376345 828073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have RSI now. < 1337376348 201535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I filled the combo bar. < 1337376350 383202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By just clicking. < 1337376351 408411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot. < 1337376357 69215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$200 xLv. < 1337376363 108257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1337376366 515234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gives you $200 * how many levels you are. < 1337376371 678566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have $10969. < 1337376376 919064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not all that much by my standards. :( < 1337376394 594066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at least I only need one more click to max out the $3558 armour power-up... < 1337376404 70709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :An there's only one ? left. < 1337376508 676217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filling the combo bar again does nothing. :( < 1337376550 852806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: By the way, if you find out what getting *** on the slot machine does, let me know. < 1337376554 561607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never managed to. < 1337376584 429028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I just did. < 1337376588 810836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bunch of $800s. Not bad! < 1337376594 916567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. < 1337376604 975566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One click on the final power-up box unlocked the final ?. < 1337376607 457754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ACT. +20. < 1337376748 862329 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gives you shitloads of money, yeah. < 1337376778 349124 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://retroprogramming.com < 1337376778 840668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as much as 777, I think (because that gives you more of them). < 1337376891 762605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 6 power-ups to go before I can rest my weary mind... < 1337377001 490658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OK, why did nobody warn humanity about things like this? < 1337377041 126432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, Orwell was all "hey guys don't become a totalitarian surveillance state" but did he say one bit about hollow, addicting RPGs??? < 1337377193 888320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesssss < 1337377196 61623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one power-up to go < 1337377263 739595 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killed the final boss. < 1337377265 515208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WIN < 1337377271 75640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1337377277 558808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right as I go to upload the image of me having won, my browser crashes. < 1337377280 19356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... poetic. < 1337377291 221411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The 999 HP one, or the 9999 HP one? < 1337377305 178056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the 999 HP one isn't exactly final. < 1337377305 763207 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait there are more final bosses? < 1337377313 174742 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only got the 752 one! < 1337377324 523453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah, there's a bit more than that. < 1337377332 145642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screenshot you're game and I'll tell you what's left to do. < 1337377335 224344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not much more than that, though.) < 1337377335 908941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*your < 1337377368 948179 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337377371 513621 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got to the Twitter thing. < 1337377377 53256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's not the end. < 1337377378 564062 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still 1 ? left. < 1337377389 90737 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really suck at this, it seems < 1337377396 51653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That'll be the combo one, or the all-powerups one. < 1337377398 493450 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9999 boss unlocked. < 1337377398 828330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the latter. < 1337377403 393807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that isn't what you need to do to unlock the final boss. < 1337377404 893732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1337377425 21244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once you kill the 9999 boss, you just have to buy every power-up (that means at least once from each, not the whole 9 from each) to unlock the final ?. < 1337377440 763333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if you already have, then it's the combo one; get your ACT and RCV up and just keep clicking one of the finished missions. < 1337377464 664888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I used the 100% one that's one left from the $860 x9 weapon power-up.) < 1337377468 278590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, http://ompldr.org/vZHN3cA. < 1337377571 154639 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-93-68.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337377811 421892 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what should I focus on for the 9999 boss? < 1337377818 197693 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life seems to be the bottleneck. < 1337377844 712280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Can I see a screenshot? Or at least all your current stats? < 1337377853 460440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me, I didn't really have to up anything; I just changed my tactic. < 1337377866 469818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You regain health faster than the boss, so just keep an eye on your life meter, and only hit when it's >= a certain value. < 1337377879 188878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So hit when you're >= 60 health, wait until it regains, hit again, and so on. < 1337377891 743282 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :150 life, 80 act, 164/615/360. < 1337377894 404909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you can afford them, just buy a bunch of the power-ups. < 1337377908 322682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :150 life is more than I had when defeating the boss. < 1337377916 636896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might want to up defences. < 1337377926 383658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Have you used the ATK. x2 box yet? < 1337377933 641571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so, since it's higher than all your other stats. < 1337377940 644177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh yeah, and the $200 Add Parm. box is useful. < 1337377949 241664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a lot of money, just spam it and you get one stat point per $200. < 1337378003 262973 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I just grind for cash? < 1337378012 979343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you defeat the boss? < 1337378040 532761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That counts as winning, according to the start screen. But I'm weird, so I had to buy all 9 of every power-up to be happy. < 1337378063 618270 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how do you get the last ? < 1337378097 13277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What *is* last? They all have different criteria. I keep asking for a screenshot for a reason. < 1337378217 214239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: At least tell me where it is? < 1337378244 788909 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Top-right. < 1337378273 866232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the combo one. Just click a completed mission fast for ages until the combo bar fills up. < 1337378286 993256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used the wide one to the left of $860 x9 weapon in the top-left. < 1337378290 866750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry about picking up the gold. < 1337378599 817922 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry no, my wrists refuse to cooperate. < 1337378630 199946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's worth it! < 1337378662 400162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy 23:04 Yeah, Meph is a workhorse spell, you spam it at almost everything. < 1337378662 605072 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337379317 189878 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337381046 467340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I just saw a TV advert for IE9 < 1337381056 1862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why people go around advertising browsers < 1337381443 300457 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because some people use different browser than IE and microsoft doesn't like that < 1337381554 256254 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finnished my CPU design few minutes ago. It is RISC style stack machine with conditional execution bit. < 1337381814 52221 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337381915 313395 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1337381915 452864 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337381918 433927 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one? < 1337381919 464618 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk tsk < 1337381933 657866 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a message :'( < 1337382185 24065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1337382190 815936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:22 monqy asked 10h 46m 57s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow < 1337382190 938709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:22 monqy asked 10h 46m 56s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow < 1337382190 956830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:22 monqy asked 10h 46m 56s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow < 1337382192 393798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:22 monqy asked 10h 46m 54s ago: you have elliptic linked to your account tomorrow < 1337382194 493994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:22 Plugin `tell' failed with: thread killed < 1337382196 644775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't get all of your messages < 1337382204 931688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there were more before that though) < 1337382225 180072 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1337382230 735225 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed all of the exciting variations < 1337382231 936598 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337382232 998561 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337382234 552274 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that weren't that < 1337382241 87923 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was so much message excitement < 1337382249 595293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were variations??? < 1337382280 731659 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337382287 227854 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :post-threadkill < 1337382390 906009 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337382746 111294 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was it here who was going to build his/her own computer architecture? < 1337382891 441613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1337383543 934589 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337383751 494369 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337383768 181096 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337384825 81368 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337385612 706665 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C443.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337385883 586693 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337385899 539664 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT : < 1337386136 19568 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337386385 443433 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337386434 889458 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337386984 320200 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337388219 347753 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337388400 950382 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337388844 684077 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337390726 915182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: hey < 1337390736 617792 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup? < 1337390742 162438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: do you wanna see what a scroll of acquirement gave me after under 4000 turns of play in crawl light < 1337390747 345373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : p - the +23 crystal plate mail of Inaction (worn) {rPois Acc+2 Dam+2} < 1337390748 62308 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1337390750 482175 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1337390751 340084 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus < 1337390751 896218 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking < 1337390752 754801 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 < 1337390754 80284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337390761 752927 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your ac in it < 1337390776 329432 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc st_ got a pretty good artefact cpa the other day in regular crawl too < 1337390777 782252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my AC is 54, along with my +1 helmet and +0 cloak and +0 boots < 1337390781 296675 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was someone else thouugh < 1337390793 980581 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it might hav been on a robin < 1337390801 677268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(crawl light doesn't buff acquirement or whatever (except that you can see what you'll get before deciding so i didn't just say "hey gimme armour")) < 1337390814 764819 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually a real big acq buff < 1337390819 436041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is but i mean < 1337390822 294039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't buff the actual generation < 1337390825 128741 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1337391130 217444 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337391227 538792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: my EV only just now hit 6 though < 1337391240 163161 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it matters for you at the moment < 1337391258 350821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_You see here a serpentine rune of Zot. < 1337391258 451087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_You can't carry that many items. < 1337391272 735203 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember how runes used to be actual items that you carried in your inventory < 1337391275 656598 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1337391308 196332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: also I just got my first rune \o/ < 1337391308 391888 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                         | < 1337391308 476157 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                         |\ < 1337391308 787728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever < 1337391310 776211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1337391312 309779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just pasted that here < 1337391312 814342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337391316 650888 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in crawl light? < 1337391318 291038 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in crawl < 1337391324 691969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Light, but "Light" doesn't mean "easier" < 1337391331 300768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm actually playing on < 1337391332 302679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~hard mode~ < 1337391340 878826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Light just means "no hunger and no curses and no stupid identification game" < 1337391348 247115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm playing DD because i also want "no regen over time" < 1337391349 385359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lovely < 1337391362 849793 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ~hard mode~ like < 1337391366 973654 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not playing on hard mode < 1337391379 102565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes i am! < 1337391380 676519 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're playing on medium mode. hasn't hard mode not been fully implemented yet? < 1337391380 732329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i opened the pandoora < 1337391383 200349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok < 1337391384 846198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's < 1337391389 419133 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only opened the first pandoora! < 1337391391 944633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :harder than the baseline mode < 1337391396 600500 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes sure < 1337391396 774208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i'm going to open the second!!! < 1337391397 886765 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this < 1337391401 350457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pandoora is a door < 1337391404 491587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you open it the game gets harder < 1337391407 481411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a light thing < 1337391411 965357 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337391412 885653 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is it < 1337391416 973994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's what < 1337391425 55815 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :pandoora < 1337391426 644270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the portal to the first pandoora is randomly generated < 1337391431 998123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :second pandoora is at the end of the hive if you opened the first pandoora < 1337391434 375753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which makes hive harder) < 1337391580 485473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: if you want to see pandoora-hive you can watch me i'll probably go there next < 1337391605 803955 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337391649 583189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:40 easymode hive has PHAT LOOT liek swords or books or someting < 1337391649 687036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:40 if you open the first pandoora, hive will only have potions and the second pandoora when dtsund implements it < 1337391649 770869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:40 but as of now all it is is a normal stone soup hive < 1337391652 448885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it probably won't be that interesting < 1337391657 323387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: oh it's telnet light.bitprayer.com < 1337391698 954726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:41:05 < quairlzr> Satonakaja: you missed it < 1337391699 125903 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:41:10 < quairlzr> both doors are in now < 1337391709 5230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1337391709 731951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337392086 922163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: help < 1337392095 911906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i accidentally read tele and now i'm trapped by deep water < 1337392102 817668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reading tele again just put me in the same place < 1337392105 503951 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disint the wax < 1337392107 542257 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or fire it < 1337392116 904267 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have wands right < 1337392120 435950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have digging < 1337392123 845768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be better < 1337392136 81389 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can use digging to get around the water if that isn't the level boundary < 1337392139 693824 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :digging doesn't cut wax < 1337392141 759172 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disint and fire do < 1337392142 968003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337392152 373967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow nice < 1337392194 952617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :another exec axe???? < 1337392212 888496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1337392215 181105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess what i have is better < 1337392234 444258 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the glow meter < 1337392238 328591 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's something normal crawl needs < 1337392245 92502 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1337392247 859803 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it different in crawl light < 1337392248 745575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :glow is the berk penalty < 1337392260 173943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You open the killer bee like a pillowcase!!! < 1337392262 257856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1337392277 358633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1337392280 484443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a less shitty anti-magic axe < 1337392310 930254 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hive looks pretty < 1337392311 309927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i see why they removed hive < 1337392311 445590 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: light uses glow instead of food for spell/invo/evo/etc costs so it's more important to have precise glow information < 1337392312 601966 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to say trivial < 1337392313 288645 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but dumb < 1337392319 254336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think they removed hive because it was too easy < 1337392320 896057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gave tons of loot < 1337392332 240043 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because it's just boring < 1337392340 649345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a level full of bees and only bees, "seriously?" < 1337392349 103793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee warrior < 1337392351 375254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee mage < 1337392356 937179 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :bees knees < 1337392359 687335 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a unique bee < 1337392366 864088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should like < 1337392369 983291 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bee with 100 speed, haste and swiftness < 1337392373 304224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually enchant some stuff some da < 1337392374 290242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*day < 1337392404 645275 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't bother ehcnating stuff you're not going to use; you aren't in any shortage of ac/whatever < 1337392410 177146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant < 1337392412 178967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weapons < 1337392427 465918 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're fine off with what you have there too < 1337392431 851545 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for now at least < 1337392443 179497 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you might find something really cool like a vampiric axe < 1337392449 515782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Found the -5 chain mail of Agoraphobia {+Inv Acc+3}. < 1337392452 700618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrandarts are weird < 1337392476 298869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1337392477 746185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the pandoora < 1337392502 971269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1337392504 691594 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xmap it? < 1337392517 173338 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try the far left < 1337392528 668778 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337392529 196988 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either a secret door or you can burn/disint it < 1337392563 69885 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or dig it since it's rock < 1337392570 67982 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it rock? < 1337392573 858967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rock < 1337392577 237607 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh unnatural rock < 1337392581 206656 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dig the soft rock < 1337392589 467352 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you will find a door < 1337392589 776195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1337392598 435059 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rock that's not listed as unnaturally hard < 1337392601 530622 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use digging on it < 1337392618 65166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what rock < 1337392637 668524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is none < 1337392671 671008 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :below you? < 1337392701 544757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:58 that's a bee castle < 1337392708 205216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: not hive < 1337392709 288740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee castle < 1337392739 90648 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fort ludios < 1337392740 465437 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with bees < 1337392776 827777 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hunger, right? < 1337392780 568044 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :grind a teletrap until you tele past it? < 1337392785 762420 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fun" < 1337392790 715980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1337392880 508882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: oh it actually is < 1337392882 87522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethacky < 1337392885 36813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAME: bee_castle_nethack < 1337392888 644578 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1337392890 892241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nethack's castle < 1337392891 952382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with bees < 1337392957 299720 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible < 1337392969 893909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: join #crawllight btw < 1337392972 341378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to see the < 1337392974 979231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~figuring out process~ < 1337393467 183896 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:59:40 < Patashu> grind a teletrap until you tele past it? < 1337393475 260495 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no_tele_into < 1337394212 762038 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337394497 337678 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337394810 29026 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337397773 876008 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337398049 711873 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337399731 565823 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Does "heard" even have any vowels? < 1337399970 970758 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :h-schwa-r-d < 1337399978 768936 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1337400001 392249 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no...it's got vowels...sorry < 1337400034 253513 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh...you were taking to someone else...sorry. < 1337404552 420195 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337404572 139780 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that really a schwa? < 1337404640 762379 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's close < 1337404761 3787 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1337405473 995364 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337405696 603947 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337407304 16279 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337408199 519238 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337408219 704273 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337408737 272322 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337408860 26762 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-156-221.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337409062 655226 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-133-16.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337409086 609585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: how do you kill boris < 1337409111 82451 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :use silence and tab him < 1337409136 492766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i have silence < 1337409136 899974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1337410484 981290 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how do you pronounce the name of the letter z? < 1337410494 520678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zed or zee "it depends" < 1337410507 219153 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zoo < 1337410516 485380 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not even heard of it being pronounced zed until a few minutes ago < 1337410522 561404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zed is the standard british pronunciation < 1337410523 420594 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading some Internet Oracularities < 1337410712 96493 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-133.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337410712 611913 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-147-30.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337411160 44949 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337411586 197869 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...And I call myself a Stargate Atlantis fan < 1337412473 641682 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://retroprogramming.com < 1337412505 714872 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Internet Oracle is a few months younger than I am < 1337412571 541046 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "zee/zed" thing stops me from using x and y as variables. :-( < 1337412579 539372 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm always nervous. What if z comes next?! < 1337412624 819288 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then after z it's a real problem. < 1337412627 89490 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you use, w? < 1337412633 273250 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :w is my least favorite English letter, by the way. < 1337413562 958922 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337414109 95684 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337414334 160482 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337414542 908826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: you should help me not die < 1337414546 876296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a more helpful manner than monqy < 1337414569 84833 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: you wouldn't believe how hard it was to get elliott to use a vamp battleaxe on a ddbe!! < 1337414577 961130 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1337414586 121242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337414587 250055 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Can I help you not die? < 1337414620 937522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i'm dying lots because of hell fiends and other nasty things < 1337414623 104203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by dying i mean < 1337414623 978582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :losing hp < 1337414639 584250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i have four runes < 1337414640 277796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact < 1337414644 592234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm carrying three of them < 1337414651 156267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i am < 1337414655 862565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i be carrying these runes < 1337414664 166018 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they're wasted inventory space < 1337414670 257898 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stash them or something once you get a chance < 1337414724 633975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so uh < 1337414729 598710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i won't bother with elf:3 < 1337414734 28815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: how scary is zot:1 < 1337414772 887058 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends < 1337414774 86986 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to what < 1337414778 196667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1337414780 465296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything < 1337414783 256216 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's char is op so it should be easy < 1337414786 85178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaults:8 except < 1337414789 499242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaults:5 in light < 1337414795 99356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but < 1337414795 811880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :demons < 1337414797 776349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fire blasts < 1337414798 443978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1337414811 36968 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think zot:1 is easier than vaults:8 < 1337414815 214928 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it has less shit and a less open layout < 1337414821 996627 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't mean the monsters in it are trivial < 1337414832 646864 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elf end is also commonly considered easier than v8!!! < 1337414847 808369 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually just don't do elf though < 1337414857 31034 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only good level is the ending and the rest is ugh < 1337414864 736113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ending is awful!!!!! < 1337414871 491983 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because you goofed it < 1337414883 679938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uh < 1337414888 762701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that throwing net useful for anything at this point in the game < 1337414903 853629 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :style < 1337414918 172697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take that as a no < 1337414992 709435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that enough scrolls for zot:1 < 1337415045 771934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw uh < 1337415051 739181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how to use these rods < 1337415057 706606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have a feeling it's pointless taking them to zot < 1337415129 736393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: help :'( < 1337415137 780555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is complicated < 1337415149 959236 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to use rods < 1337415151 332227 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) wield < 1337415152 572547 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) v < 1337415160 264554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i mean < 1337415164 249987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~tactically~ < 1337415208 420662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : V - a +5 rod of summoning (10/10) < 1337415208 521837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Z - a +3 rod of destruction [lightning,iron,fireball] (10/10) < 1337415212 907998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: should i take these to zot < 1337415235 173195 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, if you wanyt < 1337415240 85777 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you end up not needing them just drop them < 1337415331 607415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Patashu: im zot < 1337415365 54903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : The chilling blast hits you! < 1337415365 177640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Two of your 12 potions of healing freeze and shatter! < 1337415365 657458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok um < 1337415373 315680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is everything on zot:1 cold or something < 1337415376 437296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1337415378 603000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have two rings of rF on < 1337415379 224678 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :white draconians < 1337415379 952067 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice dragons < 1337415382 27060 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and golden dragons < 1337415383 162778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've seen an ice dragon < 1337415383 705076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337415384 224661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337415387 172988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anything firey on zot:1 < 1337415387 953605 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ancient liches < 1337415390 73768 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be it < 1337415391 428916 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337415392 289781 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbs of fire < 1337415396 66734 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and whichever draconian colour is fire < 1337415396 764987 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337415397 682253 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :golden dragons < 1337415398 213523 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337415398 727780 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :dragons < 1337415403 654290 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drac scorchers < 1337415405 568820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1337415406 434287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is with < 1337415406 856111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zot < 1337415410 818346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you meant to resist all this crap < 1337415411 4053 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1337415413 97828 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :drac annihlators do every element I think < 1337415415 62562 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337415423 634886 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap to one pip of rF and one pip of rC < 1337415430 444652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have rC < 1337415431 177941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1337415432 458677 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you see something you know only does one (like an orb of fire) you can swap to 2 of it < 1337415432 476441 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't look like you're having trouble < 1337415432 974281 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337415433 302259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rC+, rF_ < 1337415433 841329 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1337415434 808116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*rF- < 1337415437 516016 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, tank it then < 1337415457 939945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well my scrolls are all catching fire < 1337415462 881426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this draconian refuses to walk up to me < 1337415472 877881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit why do i have all these scrolls with me < 1337415540 309527 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know < 1337415611 296048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337415615 488454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my scrolls gone apart from tele < 1337415626 250864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one scroll of blinking left in the game and it's not mine < 1337415703 412266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhh < 1337415714 560542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should just get the orb and be happy with the runes i have i guess < 1337415756 973558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this black draconian red < 1337415758 275957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :life mysteries < 1337415887 426314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337415889 368447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an orb of fire < 1337415892 723044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: how do you kill orbs of fire < 1337415971 136544 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit it a lot < 1337415972 238577 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't die to fire < 1337415974 136227 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't die to mutations < 1337415983 962576 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's 150% speed < 1337415985 67394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use antimagic < 1337415989 963292 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: are you sure < 1337415998 289823 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: remember light reverted haste nerf < 1337416003 527554 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean < 1337416007 538755 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're 200% speed in crawl light? < 1337416008 51869 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1337416009 782736 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :use antimagic yes < 1337416010 862192 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1337416013 691580 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all i know < 1337416027 15485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got delevelled :( < 1337416046 457519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dumb is berking an orb of fire < 1337416089 282231 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-195.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337416102 369526 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-195.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337416110 150262 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if crawl light has the op version of berk < 1337416113 277818 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sound too bad < 1337416130 586325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You slice the orb of fire!! < 1337416132 320099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337416174 767051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Wait a moment, elliott! Do you really want to walk there? < 1337416176 811433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1337416206 181278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's zot:1 cleared < 1337416254 962446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feels pyrrhic < 1337416315 841371 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where to now!!! < 1337416368 497365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337416372 980927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the part where all my scrolls got destroyed < 1337416426 318993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: honestly < 1337416429 443550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I had conservation < 1337416432 463490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be fine < 1337416433 633208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1337416488 377424 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elf3 for conservation!!! < 1337416509 242606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1337416511 527437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would elf:3 have conservation? < 1337416602 646803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ? < 1337416673 144396 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :loot < 1337416713 436865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1337416767 552916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337416770 653755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the problematic situation < 1337416777 845503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i need to kill the conjurer fast < 1337416785 720711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah uh < 1337416790 572339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully you can see the problem < 1337416884 277298 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you letting them all hit you at once < 1337416886 551104 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops don't do that! < 1337416895 897772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea was < 1337416904 243991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to kill the ones that summon the awful demons first < 1337416904 728912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1337416926 191448 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might want to use the vamp axe some too < 1337416931 946035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your hp is getting a dear bit low!! < 1337416941 183912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337416941 638559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337416947 737290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any suggestions < 1337416954 711848 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do whatever you did < 1337416961 760409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1337417003 253138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok watch < 1337417014 446 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm watching < 1337417022 538780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it might finally go well for once since I got rid of the high priest < 1337417147 77578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1337417150 148278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's all going terribly :( < 1337417228 497174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :( < 1337417241 311062 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1337417246 392681 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah don't fight like that jeez < 1337417252 341619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see if you watched < 1337417256 672837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have saw how i got into this situation :P < 1337417260 422554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*seen < 1337417314 827748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaand again < 1337417316 289081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is pointless < 1337417316 783750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1337417390 888220 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear what happened to you < 1337417438 374309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll probably die in the next few turns and there's a bunch of stuff between me and the stairs, so I guess it's hopeless. < 1337417499 63506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could read tele, but I have a sneaking suspicion I wouldn't survive to see the other side of it. < 1337417580 387186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Anyway, suggestions welcome. < 1337417613 302701 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most danger about tele is in teleporting into the vault < 1337417654 357804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say the most danger is the fact that I had a lot more than 45 HP last turn and so am probably going to have a lot less than it next turn... < 1337417688 845156 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about tele specificially < 1337417746 176140 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see look you didn't die < 1337417775 741001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wait 'til I get back there... < 1337417791 574266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1337417798 204747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1337417802 455116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that, anyway? < 1337417807 580658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lightning and crystal spear. < 1337417810 657305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Killed things. < 1337417824 934487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't exactly stop things casting spells at me when I'm walking up to them. < 1337417837 343614 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: don't walk up to them < 1337417863 292668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I had nowhere to duck and if I just sat there the same would happen. < 1337417878 343039 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe find somewhere to duck < 1337417889 453927 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or move such that you have somewhere to duck < 1337417905 802297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., run away along the corridor, during which time the same would have happened. < 1337417939 480323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You occasionally shout uncontrollably. < 1337417944 641236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I got another mutation while I wasn't looking. < 1337418014 747383 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-156-221.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337418044 641254 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-238-159.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337418048 580352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That corridor is going to have the exact same situation in it as it did last time I was in it, so I'm really not sure what my options are. < 1337418297 354597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, fuck. < 1337418338 277702 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-195.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337418538 562758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1337418586 116155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok, how *are* you meant to handle deep elf demonologists when there are no corridors you can get to without traversing terrain with a bunch of elves that will kill you < 1337418656 840699 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how that happened to you!! < 1337418680 835396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simple; I retreated from other stuff back here, and there was a deep elf demonologist. < 1337418702 133856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't retreat backwards since that'd put me back into the stuff I was retreating from, so I walked up to it to kill it before it could summon anything, but it was too quick. < 1337418838 588762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I don't know what to do at this point. < 1337418979 334097 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-238-159.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1337418994 745508 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-238-159.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337419040 701056 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-195.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337419123 200773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: You should save me. < 1337419175 925037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm preoccupied < 1337419190 710270 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet to what? < 1337419215 333182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: light.bitprayer.com < 1337419233 249140 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1337419237 583195 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have 57 ac though < 1337419239 621095 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just zap tele < 1337419257 176069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you have 57 ac" dude < 1337419262 765168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still losing like 20, 30 hp per turn < 1337419285 999418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 57 ac really isn't a panacea < 1337419296 277249 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug, you still want to tele < 1337419306 891984 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1337419308 267601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1337419308 950758 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much better now < 1337419309 466178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of helped < 1337419313 426992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except there's elves down there < 1337419317 660212 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :could re-tele < 1337419342 427867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :think i'll just get the hell out < 1337419367 86290 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, yes < 1337419370 962692 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :57 ac doesn't help against everything < 1337419374 324729 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sure as fuck helps against execs < 1337419391 394036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i suppose i should just go to zot < 1337419400 856467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there's obviously no way i'll survive a 15-runer < 1337419408 150094 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337419410 78687 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as a dd of trog, no < 1337419414 807977 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(torment torment torment torment smite) < 1337419458 226721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could always convert < 1337419458 913112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1337419466 967628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm too shit a player to survive is what i meant < 1337419476 155577 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog wrath is kind of hard to deal with < 1337419481 733920 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :though with no hunger you could scummily deal with it < 1337419534 641255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhh < 1337419542 786462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so bad about trog wrath for a character like me? < 1337419546 805312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can kill pretty much any melee monster < 1337419555 959470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's spellcasters that beat me down < 1337419562 379244 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting surrounded by 20 zerk stone giants and bears is kind of hard to deal with < 1337419594 172322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the scummy way < 1337419601 464411 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomb < 1337419601 980427 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1337419607 752552 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :corridor with something like a rat blocking you in < 1337419619 209142 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :then 5 until trog is mollified < 1337419626 822350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: tell Patashu he's awful < 1337419633 115205 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: you're awful < 1337419633 289019 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :then swap to tso < 1337419635 221282 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :finish crypt < 1337419639 68905 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do pan then hells < 1337419656 744636 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: did you see elliott doing crypt < 1337419663 619534 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I was eating dinner < 1337419665 511406 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :was ith ard < 1337419678 718362 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo hard < 1337419730 649351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could probably take crypt now < 1337419733 482866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1337419742 265290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: do you want to see me die in crypt < 1337419746 186965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so are you converting or not, and are you still planning on allruning < 1337419752 827525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i don't know < 1337419761 348593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt i'll all-rune without converting < 1337419766 985991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds ~impossible < 1337419791 867309 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's technically possible but lol, torment < 1337419799 729127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are the viable ddbe extended game gods then < 1337419801 773172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tso, ? < 1337419814 492969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makhleb is like tso but makhleb instead of tso < 1337419825 169389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337419831 511530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does makhleb offer over trog < 1337419835 161164 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to convert you may as well convert to tso < 1337419841 597170 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :makhleb offers: healing on kills, ??? < 1337419930 732718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tso offers healing on evil kills, which is pretty much 100% of extended < 1337419935 486852 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also holy branding < 1337419940 988957 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and angels and stuff < 1337419941 777280 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy helps more than vampiric in end game < 1337419944 352792 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337419944 697527 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since vampiric doesn't work on demons < 1337419949 629850 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :while holy gives 75% damage boost < 1337419949 803061 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337419950 151406 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1337419955 224967 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :tso gives you cleansing flame < 1337419957 692025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah but < 1337419958 363250 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good at high invo < 1337419959 570535 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :divine shield < 1337419961 792523 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you rely on trog's hand for healing you will exhaust your piety megaquickly < 1337419963 15016 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good similarly < 1337419963 60330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does makhleb offer over trog for extended, I'm confused < 1337419968 739047 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :healing on kills < 1337419968 757186 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :healing on kills < 1337419973 328924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok < 1337419984 858525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tso seems like a pain because < 1337419996 646448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it get angry at you if you do $stuff < 1337420013 226375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tso isn't as uptight about stuff you do to demons < 1337420021 706770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if i'm going to convert i guess it should be before i finish off crypt? < 1337420028 10390 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst it'd affect you is you can't use your vamp or draining weapons < 1337420039 827702 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you'd have to grind with a different weapon < 1337420043 20042 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you get holy branding < 1337420056 430464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i can't use vamp? < 1337420063 120986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... annoying < 1337420063 364809 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :vampiric is evil < 1337420070 659372 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you'd be holy branding it anyway < 1337420071 717875 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :for endgame < 1337420076 905298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but < 1337420080 81222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vamp is nice for hp < 1337420089 40290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if hp on evil kills would be enough < 1337420119 16373 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vamp won't help you in extended < 1337420125 607472 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except on the rare living thing < 1337420128 704632 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ice dragons in coc < 1337420163 287088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: btw is hall of blades as horrible as they say < 1337420179 984745 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on your character < 1337420185 448244 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pretty much everything there is faster than a normal speed char < 1337420188 985099 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of reaching weapons < 1337420192 471696 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an unlucky brand might fuck you up < 1337420199 179227 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have good escape mechanisms blade is ok < 1337420245 803619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about if you have crappy escape mechanisms but 57 AC < 1337420300 402907 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337420323 274164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk i just want to put off the decision of converting to another god < 1337420323 765736 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can try it < 1337420324 13978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also < 1337420326 664190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be somewhere without spellcasters < 1337420329 24523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and summoners < 1337420332 128136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bullshit like that < 1337420334 401421 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(uniques can appear in blade) < 1337420338 640445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1337420342 864679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what uniques < 1337420354 923052 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :any < 1337420373 711917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great there's disto < 1337420374 492994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:39 hall of blades[6/6]: the real experience you gain is "don't do blade" < 1337420375 446460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1337420381 855894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i take anything special < 1337420415 381410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I guess rFire isn't that important in blades? < 1337420423 1114 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :there can be weapons of flaming < 1337420424 33134 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and freezing < 1337420424 932371 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1337420428 836817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1337420434 493012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just go for it < 1337420442 716557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh uh < 1337420444 910751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will vamp work < 1337420447 918239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ $// < 1337420449 668621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1337420451 685111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it heal me < 1337420456 736427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for hitting blades < 1337420457 511001 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course no < 1337420460 88443 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're fucking swords < 1337420477 964201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feature request: they're not fucking swords < 1337420480 844111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ok that makes things < 1337420482 395237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :difficult < 1337420488 244295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that's how i heal these days < 1337420490 994542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1337420494 998019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does killing them give piety < 1337420502 758081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :& also will anti-magic do anything fancy to them < 1337420512 675382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(& also will draining do anything fancy to them) < 1337420753 986119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Patashu :( < 1337420778 229668 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337420778 916156 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1337420780 294999 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337420781 29078 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337420782 232239 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order < 1337420787 36741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr8 < 1337420793 583286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to splat < 1337420837 377096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAAAA < 1337420839 387940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: mennas < 1337420848 454888 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a silent disciple < 1337420851 246812 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a crawl light thing < 1337420853 822230 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, get the fuck out of blade < 1337420854 654946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337420855 556739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just < 1337420856 861262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :silences < 1337420859 121198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wherever it stands < 1337420862 74919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337420865 791871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it i stand no chances against mennas < 1337420870 712600 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hmm < 1337420874 674273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa "He" < 1337420874 831610 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you are kind of diesel < 1337420881 826069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Crawl avoided giving genders to monsters < 1337420885 841414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that a post-0.8 thing < 1337420888 765884 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :uniques have gender < 1337420890 354404 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :like mara is a he < 1337420893 391202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337420897 423610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway uhhh < 1337420913 917162 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zap haste at yourself < 1337420916 820999 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and try to kill mennas < 1337420917 853442 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might work < 1337420923 775856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the silent disciples and shit < 1337420926 87692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just ignore them? < 1337420927 234751 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1337420928 606723 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they hit hard? < 1337420931 230533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337420945 31892 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337420948 343061 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just opened a sword like a pillowcase < 1337420948 763027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337420948 857591 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1337420950 910252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1337420964 274831 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok yeah < 1337420964 309364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337420965 315615 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're diesel < 1337420966 196318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was < 1337420966 717217 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :go do zot < 1337420970 149179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yeah but < 1337420970 876820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in zot < 1337420974 644627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337420977 118331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's put it this way < 1337420979 805087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can kill anything in melee < 1337420986 572225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i can't kill is stuff that summons < 1337420988 702943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or throws fire at me < 1337420991 661850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or throws bolts of cold at me < 1337420992 844065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1337420996 623120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and especially my items can't survive that < 1337420999 773971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically when i did zot:1 < 1337421009 292318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was uneventful except all my scrolls got destroyed < 1337421025 662382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i kept losing hp whenever I fought something that did blasts of stuff < 1337421031 170193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if everything just did melee < 1337421032 714651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i'd be fine < 1337421109 344328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_gruevy's ghost (mighty High Elf Ice Elementalist) comes into view. < 1337421110 401363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337421125 815377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1337421127 226669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything just dies < 1337421134 270763 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi xtahua < 1337421134 662641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahaha < 1337421139 986397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!learn add famous_last_words < 1337421148 129937 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have rf < 1337421151 35433 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a harmless teddybeatr < 1337421155 103702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1337421155 504125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337421158 802160 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1337421160 871318 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xtahua with rF- is where it's at < 1337421166 620744 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337421168 7730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow so he is < 1337421175 53994 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :xtahua_mummy_tabbers < 1337421176 281594 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also have: so much ac, vamp battleaxe < 1337421181 837721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1337421184 222238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is blades meant to be this easy < 1337421189 977702 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have 58 ax < 1337421190 873390 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ac < 1337421195 22375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: did you see that ttyrec of the spsomething that came out of an ice cave into xtahua with rF- < 1337421214 176482 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know where I can find it < 1337421216 270905 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337421219 482787 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1337421223 414835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1337421226 590210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i do now < 1337421233 43971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehh < 1337421235 133461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll do crypt < 1337421236 80808 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one, right < 1337421236 502523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :without converting < 1337421251 709255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: you get to help me do (the last level of) crypt < 1337421261 136745 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337421282 780244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :observe: the previous disaster < 1337421289 988438 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1337421292 328809 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not...liches < 1337421294 296987 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1337421294 590827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it < 1337421297 764671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it spammed summons < 1337421298 253707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337421299 603359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell fiend < 1337421299 940120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337421301 756632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337421302 22435 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :?tele < 1337421302 223773 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `tell' failed with: Prelude.head: empty list < 1337421304 43339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellfire < 1337421306 697637 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Friend < 1337421306 789747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i just < 1337421309 123225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :walked upstairs < 1337421313 89808 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to get elliott to experience the magic and wonder of liches behind glass < 1337421324 791259 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the magic and wonder being that if you step on the items it sets the liches free on you < 1337421336 496881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337421353 558231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best thing about light is < 1337421355 803432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no monster regeneration < 1337421359 373422 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever? < 1337421359 886272 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337421405 296706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_The curse skull gives a chilling moan. < 1337421406 551996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creys < 1337421423 222002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1337421429 455405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where should i enter < 1337421466 478043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess from the same place < 1337421466 926766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since < 1337421467 782348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :staircase < 1337421477 630628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm < 1337421483 765622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about from here < 1337421488 295680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :better chokepoint and another staircase < 1337421490 351802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that'd be better < 1337421498 359581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow thanks autotravel < 1337421500 190775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ruined everything < 1337421503 706660 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-195.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337421508 668613 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: !lg * sp killer=xtahua max=dam -tv:<0.3 < 1337421515 469281 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1337421524 121275 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot I stopped watching it half way through because it was boring < 1337421540 37986 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice cave can appear as late as vaults? lol < 1337421545 988718 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1337421546 478011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahaha < 1337421548 712207 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabbing_unreasons < 1337421554 556164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't matter < 1337421556 397476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed on first turn < 1337421563 138721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so < 1337421565 594323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've dealt with one of the liches < 1337421614 811546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada < 1337421616 510292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :liches disposed of < 1337421639 225213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_There is a click. Suddenly, the liches are set free! < 1337421641 137647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WRONG < 1337421656 222987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sif Muna's Volume of Snow and the Voyage < 1337421658 647590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally the most boring book < 1337421660 801989 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to be an oversight < 1337421666 632225 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it only say that if there are still iches trapped there < 1337421687 827048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.8_unreasons < 1337421705 443989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337421708 811803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's crypt done < 1337421717 467777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1337421731 663352 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do zot < 1337421733 201181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: btw is there any feasible way for me to get conservation at this point < 1337421734 864622 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you going to get by putting it off < 1337421741 139740 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do a zig maybe < 1337421741 702316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337421742 41218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337421744 212262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do Zot:2 < 1337421752 766844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I still don't know if I want to 15-rune or not < 1337421777 309222 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't < 1337421793 915596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337421795 348446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1337421833 459390 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you could if you want to < 1337421841 841341 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't have any way of dealing with certain parts of hell/pan < 1337421842 355926 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm < 1337421871 205212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess so < 1337421877 427151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't converting to tso mitigate that though < 1337421925 640506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You are alive." < 1337421926 740580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks crawl < 1337421956 516276 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you plan on getting tso piety though < 1337421960 245511 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :scum abyss? < 1337421961 828407 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it'd work < 1337421985 292544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1337421989 928463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how do i plan on getting tso piety < 1337422001 18755 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill evil things < 1337422016 509494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :potions of speed are useless if i have haste right < 1337422028 589362 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing crypt < 1337422032 926235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "too late" < 1337422037 366890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i finished crypt < 1337422051 946200 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing abyss maybe? idk < 1337422067 9360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does trog wrath happen in abyss too < 1337422068 137485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds fun < 1337422107 673649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1337422108 889701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zot:2 time < 1337422114 894911 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-238-159.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337422128 530702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1337422130 883822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong one < 1337422132 555972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meant to do healing < 1337422193 328601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haaa < 1337422195 820632 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1337422210 589368 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1337422214 948416 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :prioritize mths of wrath < 1337422216 898189 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they berk shit < 1337422219 908252 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and berked shit takes forever to kill < 1337422226 466930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1337422229 88514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You have reached level 27, the final one! < 1337422232 470603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1337422236 795125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i raise str or dex :p < 1337422243 235861 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :str I guess < 1337422247 692141 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not getting much out of your ev < 1337422249 122291 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dex < 1337422305 871616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haaa < 1337422307 21097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks moth < 1337422345 525412 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if he has Dilbert Desktop Games around somewhere < 1337422449 18373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Your +23 crystal plate mail prevents you from hitting the white draconian. < 1337422454 33071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i love how i'm still getting these messages < 1337422474 529627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl: really weird if you get +23 cpa in the really early game < 1337422482 744728 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with 27 armour it still stops you sometimes < 1337422496 705074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :need < 1337422498 146877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*neat < 1337422501 391351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :draconian with a disto sword < 1337422504 252233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tele time < 1337422554 606546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uh < 1337422556 191516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's zot:2 done < 1337422563 324731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last level of zot is always a lot harder right < 1337422615 900651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1337422619 4663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could just clear zot:3 i guess < 1337422622 827992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dunno if that's suicidal or not < 1337422719 632659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Patashu < 1337423110 133263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uhhh < 1337423112 471005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has to be a terrible idea < 1337423197 389458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: tell me i'm an idiot < 1337423218 506662 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're an idiot < 1337423221 203064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1337423221 691432 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ps what are you doing < 1337423223 434786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on zot:3 < 1337423225 538571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's scary as hell < 1337423229 876687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kool < 1337423356 390031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gulp < 1337423361 735472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337423362 495282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1337423363 359441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1337423365 729172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: look at this < 1337423368 919725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look what i find < 1337423369 840526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on zot < 1337423371 727837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking < 1337423373 727297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1337423394 503432 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that happened with my ghck too < 1337423406 786932 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no conservation all game then i found a cloak of pres on zot5 < 1337423412 345431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1337423417 958049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is resist mutation useful in zot < 1337423487 59797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: is resist mutation useful in zot :( < 1337423504 317253 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337423505 775010 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :against orbs of fire < 1337423511 932149 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and draconian shifters I think?) < 1337423553 391426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337423554 988048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337423557 961151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an amulet of conservation < 1337423560 704583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an amulet of resist mutation < 1337423567 222785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ok to put on conservation < 1337423571 69670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and switch to mutation when i see one of those < 1337423573 624675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that too risky < 1337423617 760518 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you solve the EXCITING PUZZLE? < 1337423625 543045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337423645 617841 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see the EXCITING PUZZLE? < 1337423673 109352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1337423680 374877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy solving a different puzzle < 1337423762 274973 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the puzzle where when you solve it you win at Crawl? < 1337423782 417335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Crawl/Crawl Light/ < 1337423795 703026 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a brand of cigarettes? < 1337423801 339062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1337423802 277309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: help < 1337423817 578940 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an axe of antimagic? < 1337423819 296016 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if no: < 1337423822 106634 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a scroll of silence? < 1337423823 309712 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if no: < 1337423825 234238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i have antimagic < 1337423825 911483 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it, just tab it < 1337423829 984344 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap to antimagic and tab < 1337423845 858238 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1337423851 976813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1337423855 720966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's zot traps in predictable places right < 1337423860 481108 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1337423862 738457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337423882 888410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1337423900 752994 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :put on relec for electric shooters, yes < 1337423909 721178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does vamp work on electric golems < 1337423920 92855 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337423927 668113 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do vamps dream of electric golems < 1337423939 319337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :faster though < 1337423955 644057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha shit < 1337424074 409304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :euhh < 1337424087 759921 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haste, duck behind cover < 1337424088 261296 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1337424088 970592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :killer klowns are awful right < 1337424099 411926 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think killer klowns even do anything < 1337424105 728090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:41 killer klown[1/5]: Not a truly unique monster, but emotes like a unique and is very powerful. Causes rotting, is very resistant to magic, and is as fast as a centaur. Fortunately, it has no elemental resistances. < 1337424158 838511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice ghoul < 1337424161 343796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1337424164 801742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in los of ancient lich < 1337424167 129111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid stupid stupid < 1337424217 260322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1337424220 455862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'll just punch through to it < 1337424243 636759 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337424244 157253 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice rot < 1337424248 664399 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whole 9 hp of it < 1337424250 838448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was there from before :P < 1337424252 324797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1337424255 342635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they haven't rot me at all yet < 1337424279 587421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that vampire summoning these < 1337424300 457508 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think vampires can summon anything but mammals < 1337424302 801032 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it changed in light < 1337424315 753177 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C443.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337424329 67721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1337424488 780647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice orb < 1337424505 240338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do guardians actually spawn around the orb < 1337424519 227802 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :only once < 1337424531 262329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1337424541 979088 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1337424544 874754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dum < 1337424545 245717 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pick up the orb and step into the tele trap < 1337424546 788547 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late now < 1337424549 647576 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well < 1337424552 359546 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'too late' < 1337424553 540551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? no < 1337424555 789809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't going for the orb < 1337424557 786261 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do it anyway if you feel like it < 1337424557 899637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just clearing out zot:3 < 1337424559 813150 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337424561 186161 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :suuure < 1337424561 701797 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337424595 337548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said < 1337424600 956481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that situation wasn't good < 1337424697 798753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1337424723 417211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: if i pick the orb up < 1337424727 224046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i stash it in the temple < 1337424732 920730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does picking it up start the whole < 1337424733 919768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spawning thing < 1337424737 46947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :irreversibly < 1337424845 906626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1337424849 55501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: look at my EV < 1337424853 27974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it suddenly became 13 and my AC 60 < 1337424854 420249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1337424905 614116 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are you going to grab the orb and win or do extended or what < 1337424921 65459 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you pick the orb up the spawning is irreversible < 1337424925 171916 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but orb run tomb is cool < 1337424928 989848 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't do orb run hell or pan < 1337424944 372432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337424946 211733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have conservation now < 1337424956 345182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes me a bit more confident < 1337424967 55362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1337424971 873589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm tempted to go for extended < 1337424993 873534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i could just win with 4 runes quickly now but i mean < 1337425001 155623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1337425030 123574 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337425032 267671 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :your ev went up? < 1337425034 506004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337425035 238844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow < 1337425036 126067 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get a beneficial mutation? < 1337425036 504019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my AC < 1337425038 14830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to 60 < 1337425045 224222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1337425048 346052 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.' maybe < 1337425048 374927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how i got these mutations < 1337425050 550880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1337425052 176127 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oofs < 1337425053 937036 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do that < 1337425054 954320 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :to you < 1337425055 213518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: nah i've had that for the whole game < 1337425061 987134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the distort thing < 1337425062 583835 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I have no idea then < 1337425062 819786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1337425065 658286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i occasionally blink or something < 1337425067 46537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by whole game i mean < 1337425068 203346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since like < 1337425068 740391 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :teleportitis < 1337425069 420060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :half way through < 1337425069 943856 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1337425070 795196 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun < 1337425073 483101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1337425077 380892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is this really teleportitis < 1337425090 999158 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337425106 964576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1337425181 345607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is there any hope for me < 1337425208 827801 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337425210 423362 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337425216 414604 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you grab the orb and win < 1337425219 282709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i meant < 1337425221 275987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :any hope in terms of < 1337425222 497590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing more < 1337425230 727389 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1337425239 856678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least the abyss would be tolerable with it :P < 1337425406 225740 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you expect to have fun in the abyss < 1337425459 811306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: of course not < 1337425637 523938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ps is 70k turns few or a lot i can't tell these things < 1337425643 337247 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1337425643 461490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's different for light since < 1337425647 150009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :less time identifying, eating, etc. < 1337425656 381950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and shorter branches obviously < 1337425657 445843 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorter branches < 1337425658 322249 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337425667 889389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it's probably quite long for light < 1337425840 452849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhhhhhhhh < 1337425954 463644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: abyss with teleportitis has to be the greatest thing ever right < 1337425964 802677 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds "fun" < 1337425968 603381 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "a good way to get the rune" < 1337425978 966383 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "will make xom amused" < 1337425981 209175 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last one is factual < 1337425988 395301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait can you even teleport in the abyss like that < 1337425993 992520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it blocks some kinds of stuff < 1337426011 864085 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can teleport fine in the abyss < 1337426030 777540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far does it teleport you < 1337426048 368261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no amulet of stasis, brilliant < 1337426065 765870 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :to a different part of the abyss < 1337426077 575188 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read: regenerates the abyss and places you randomly in the new abyss) < 1337426089 438769 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like playing hyperrogue basically < 1337426109 587679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1337426112 274883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you find the rune < 1337426115 947132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and teleport < 1337426118 269280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you never find it again < 1337426121 352137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's already been generated < 1337426196 367247 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes new runes < 1337426198 42963 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you pick it up < 1337426201 67887 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for demonic rune < 1337426204 676840 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but NOT same for unique pan lord runes < 1337426211 790005 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the only ones you can miss < 1337426296 809100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1337426300 34976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337426304 537954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu gets to decide < 1337426309 412260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) nab orb, win with 4 runes < 1337426313 667779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) go to abyss, have THE FUNNEST TIME < 1337426323 694732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(c) try to do extended game with teleportitis like a fucking imbecile < 1337426353 899746 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) < 1337426357 993229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok pick again < 1337426363 515657 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337426365 787050 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) < 1337426380 37287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok pick again < 1337426421 892023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also < 1337426424 394800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't pick (a) again < 1337426531 691028 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :$print($lower('a')) < 1337426534 997980 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337426536 542528 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :$print($lower('A')) < 1337426537 609064 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1337426610 883231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it;s not permissible!!! < 1337426711 877270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337426712 638413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it < 1337426718 307570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna get the orb < 1337426721 655180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: should i orb run tomb < 1337426725 252816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i orb run tomb < 1337426729 304869 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337426730 323598 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :always orb run tomb < 1337426736 197948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would i actually survive that < 1337426737 501203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of curiosity < 1337426740 736532 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337426743 37899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337426750 434316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no death curses! < 1337426756 993857 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1337426761 298961 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no death curses in crawl light? < 1337426764 469606 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the point of tomb again < 1337426772 555518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337426774 109298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no curses < 1337426774 681093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1337426780 718581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's death curses!!! < 1337426932 187424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:28 I don't have a page labeled striss in my learndb. < 1337426934 979135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: who the fuck is striss < 1337426943 640958 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random panlord with summon dragon < 1337426948 195418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:29 unknown monster: "striss" < 1337426950 312732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh < 1337426952 675570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds scary < 1337427036 32881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1337427037 18932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a crash < 1337427167 940105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so < 1337427172 297313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i have the runes and the orb < 1337427180 814639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really < 1337427189 244800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :want to orb run tomb like an idiot just for the hilarity < 1337427191 8947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but im stopping myself < 1337427193 85521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with willpower < 1337427269 784966 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can orb run tomb if you want < 1337427273 362862 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst case you die < 1337427301 859586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:34 tomb[7/8]: RotRotRotRotTormentTormentRotTormentTormentSmiteTormentSmiteSmite You die... < 1337427302 398044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337427304 508608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there smiting in tomb < 1337427314 552855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:35 tomb[8/8]: Croases: admittedly i should've done swamp first < 1337427315 32902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1337427482 813591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337427491 641048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i'm going to do a really stupid ascension trick wish me luck!!! < 1337427510 763546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to be missed!!! < 1337427516 365758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1337427517 377226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be missed < 1337427524 900119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it is up for every person on the planet for them to decide" < 1337427536 723665 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm? < 1337427544 749143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i'm going to do a bunch of stupid stuff before walking up the stairs < 1337427547 552307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337427621 438926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice naga < 1337427676 974914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does abandoning religion have any penalties < 1337427679 545486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for winning < 1337427685 406936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :score-wise or whatever < 1337427695 272919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh who cares < 1337427720 120417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1337427731 911957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1337427734 644289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1337427737 805693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to die < 1337427741 533247 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337427743 300607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1337427745 565323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read a scroll of tele < 1337427746 148675 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are < 1337427746 704698 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1337427747 798123 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you look ok < 1337427749 85657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before walking up the stairs < 1337427749 360420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337427750 177377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm naked < 1337427751 293207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337427752 836281 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler: you die in the end. < 1337427754 799628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no scrolls < 1337427755 178954 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you look ok < 1337427758 166876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i < 1337427758 534368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have < 1337427759 292010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337427759 892893 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're on D:6 < 1337427761 293281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :armour < 1337427762 246764 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you going to run into < 1337427762 803078 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1337427763 291200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on < 1337427764 4335 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1337427765 556486 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have AC 60 < 1337427765 790794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on D:1 < 1337427767 416026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have the orb < 1337427767 660232 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're on D:1 < 1337427768 666259 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337427769 292490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337427771 175534 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have ac0 < 1337427771 193644 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :onesec < 1337427776 502789 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, refershed it < 1337427778 434402 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, 22 glue and 0 ac < 1337427779 637199 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1337427781 910916 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you manage that < 1337427786 916675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid tricks < 1337427787 291730 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, just hasterun from everything < 1337427787 427385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1337427788 355987 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lerave naked < 1337427790 80555 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will look funnier < 1337427792 118102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but < 1337427794 556510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will i survive even a single hit < 1337427796 215388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1337427797 971596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also renounced religion < 1337427800 314995 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you will < 1337427805 281935 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, stupid ascension tricks < 1337427809 62722 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1337427821 284546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1337427826 41808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1337427828 877960 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats on your easy modo win < 1337427828 896330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best Crawlers - < 1337427829 60653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1. 3673211 gruevy MDFi-27 escaped with the Orb < 1337427829 78926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2. 2327513 elliott DDBe-27 escaped with the Orb < 1337427834 963936 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you ready for the next challenge? < 1337427856 182263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the next challenge < 1337427859 792449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1337427866 185087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i lose points by abandoning religion & being naked < 1337427868 68826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1337427869 748662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if so < 1337427870 859480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i regret nothing < 1337427894 43489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1337427895 641737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny < 1337427898 832582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my teleportitis didn't kick in at all < 1337427982 993128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1337427992 589567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: what i did was < 1337427998 933894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use my summoning rod thing to swarm a cloud of crap < 1337428003 742626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :polymorph one of my boulder beetles into a naga < 1337428006 52733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasted myself < 1337428009 109101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :renounced religion < 1337428010 614410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read fog < 1337428012 110900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read teleport < 1337428016 864932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tried to go up the stairs < 1337428017 881627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337428021 259104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i took off all my armour beforehand < 1337428036 757868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and then ran naked out the dungeon with the orb :P < 1337428196 297624 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1337428202 35020 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if crawl light uses the same scoring system as crawl < 1337428212 503112 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :all it cares about is exp, no. of runes and game turns taken < 1337428222 768717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337428228 92206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i only wasted the turns it took to actually do that crap :P < 1337428270 654477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the last level of zot is actually pretty fun < 1337428314 384751 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :** stair dancing ** (best watched when not busy) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWdGIbZKtmg&t=214s < 1337428415 473260 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue has the best (most exploitable) stair dancing < 1337428424 375015 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is funny because at first it looks like the LEAST exploitable stairs in any roguelike that has them < 1337428442 469503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo every roguelike needs to adopt the following-through-stairs system brogue has < 1337428523 140552 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Following through stairs system? < 1337428561 567986 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you take the stairs in brogue < 1337428564 531432 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :every monster that is actively hunting you < 1337428568 802312 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :will take the stairs as soon as it reaches them < 1337428574 252149 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and resume hunting you < 1337428588 62431 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, nice < 1337428592 493946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as opposed to the stupid system in most other roguelikes where things adjacent to you can somehow go up the stairs and then walk next to you in two turns less time than it should take) < 1337428594 771370 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need to use Secret Techniques to exploit stairs < 1337428599 998400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and anything with even one square of air around you won't follow at all) < 1337428602 471947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(really really dumb) < 1337428644 803191 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-224-123.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337428808 934896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: so what are the brogue techniques < 1337428909 68764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: bet you enjoyed playing as MEPHITICCLOUD < 1337428918 965904 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aauuuhg < 1337428929 432166 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually didn't have meph < 1337428930 970202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's a workhorse < 1337428932 374455 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a post on the brogue wiki detailing what you can do with stairs < 1337428936 843459 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://brogue.wikia.com/wiki/Stairdancing < 1337428937 874301 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i'm playing MOUNTAINDWARF, which does have meph < 1337428950 255930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is the naming theme "bad things" < 1337428952 904430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*naming scheme < 1337428960 396475 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :naming scheme is OBLIVION < 1337428971 73709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that were "nerfed to oblivion" < 1337428983 35187 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mephitic cloud, mountain dwarf, staff monk, slaying < 1337428984 634245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I'd call what was done to Mountain Dwarves "nerfing". < 1337428985 298276 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was op about staff monk < 1337428990 202664 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1337428995 344075 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just nerfed to oblivion < 1337429001 466360 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a Brogue server? < 1337429005 695580 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not yet < 1337429009 661298 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has a replay system < 1337429013 605197 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you win (or die hilariously) I can watch you < 1337429020 680936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a brogue server would require the brogue program to work well anyway < 1337429025 851111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the UI < 1337429047 567409 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a console version of brogue < 1337429053 415021 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that it's not available because the faketerm is a lot better < 1337429058 383730 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's going to be used for an ssh server < 1337429063 72647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but nobody will want to play that < 1337429067 863144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least nobody with taste < 1337429106 612196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice hydra < 1337429116 53918 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't looking atht the screen < 1337429143 806779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use mephitic cloud on everything < 1337429156 12727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't sacrifice optimal play just for your personal opinions! < 1337429160 757139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a team relying on you < 1337429209 983166 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the only one I have left < 1337429214 800202 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then everything will be stuck on marvinpa < 1337429229 247773 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(until it comes back around to me that is) < 1337429391 551405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: freezing cloud eh < 1337429394 462632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds a lot like mephitic cloud to me < 1337429404 680090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you're feeding your secret meph addiction without admitting it!!! < 1337429482 558181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meeeeph < 1337429486 358302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent even seen meph ever casted monqy < 1337429488 265899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do yo uwant to deprive me < 1337429700 812488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i feel deprive < 1337429700 993723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1337429711 706845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mephhh < 1337429714 273110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meph the hill giant < 1337429725 962964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1337429732 164833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's overpowered < 1337429748 231843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think monqy just wants to cast meph a lot < 1337429750 316056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he really likes it < 1337429755 642840 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything about this char is op < 1337429785 750913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you see i won btw < 1337429792 682906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i forget" < 1337429807 435851 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337429841 224689 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-14.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337429849 247537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1337429853 583278 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-14.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337429928 927360 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337429936 913085 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1337430057 28434 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-224-123.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337430108 956124 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337430248 865022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I won Crawl Light! < 1337430257 547151 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-14.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1337430292 407510 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-14.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now for Crawl [Heavy|Dark]! < 1337430480 670385 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-14.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1337430722 356456 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337430774 71646 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl Light? < 1337430792 918124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like Crawl, but Light. < 1337430815 133603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fork of 0.8 that adds some new stuff and removes annoying things like the bad hunger, identification and curse systems. < 1337430822 330552 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad hunger? < 1337430831 460799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad (hunger, identification and curse systems) < 1337430838 845545 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's bad about them? < 1337430855 672024 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you played craw < 1337430856 192584 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1337430861 308841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what monqy said < 1337430873 513524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively: "everything" < 1337430961 299057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even ais thinks crawl's id game sucks, and he likes identification < 1337430987 428399 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337431102 33288 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it suck? < 1337431127 635148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:34 i thought you played craw < 1337431127 734514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:34 l < 1337431141 52397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's uninteresting, tedious, and has no gameplay benefits < 1337431183 435016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involves no interesting choices, more or less no risk, and basically is just completely pointless < 1337431299 184261 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-14.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337431321 674777 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-131.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337431394 508418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also < 1337431395 408848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks < 1337431476 667043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: and furthermore < 1337431480 191079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bad < 1337431602 574176 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-120-54.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337431768 989705 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-131.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337432081 845669 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C443.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337432275 116998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you gotat see that tv < 1337432276 345857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gotta < 1337432891 604634 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337433707 950023 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help me! I'm using drivelware pushed by Facebook < 1337433719 497044 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it has one redeeming quality over Pidgin < 1337434433 836720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337434652 204422 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337435023 914452 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-120-54.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337435082 990990 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337436157 961302 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-179.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337436181 721306 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-136-171.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337436195 628271 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-133.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337436221 182064 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-139-234.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337436229 27896 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-179.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1337436515 908916 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-179.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337436522 735041 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I go to sleep I'm going to forget what I need to post to the Allegiance forums < 1337436541 933357 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summarize it here in a few posts < 1337436549 724783 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can check it later in the logs < 1337437048 309798 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I listening to itidus20 < 1337437073 251750 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its one thing i know about < 1337437113 147668 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allegiance installer doesn't have Allegiance run as Administrator -- which is good except for it installing Allegiance into a protected directory, so updaters don't work < 1337437136 629849 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And R6 apparently uses Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable files, which the installer does not install < 1337437158 374308 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lewis Carroll once invented a strange device for taking shorthand in the dark, because he would forget what idea he just woke up with faster than the oil lamp could be turned on. < 1337437170 266686 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337437266 202105 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-179.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337437401 562428 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337437910 450849 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337438168 297055 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-139-234.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337438221 676578 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337439826 816345 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1337440643 265401 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337441957 21954 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337442506 148520 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337443080 862295 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337443796 568685 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on some rants the other day, i'm trying my winxp in a fullscreen style mode.. < 1337443875 712217 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all open windows maximized (where possible), taskbar removed from the bottom, taskbar can be entirely replaced effectively by alt+tab and windows key < 1337443929 874226 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :winxp -_- < 1337443986 392222 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my backlash against overlapping windows < 1337443998 559527 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how long it will last < 1337444003 930687 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337444291 921682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337444434 169590 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-179.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337444719 911701 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-179.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337445264 368655 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-179.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337446175 836140 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-179.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1337447103 11595 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-179.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337447260 425528 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-150-253.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337447273 651022 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-136-171.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337447548 205927 :huansinho!~huansinho@14.151.211.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337447576 677483 :huansinho!~huansinho@14.151.211.9 PART :#esoteric < 1337447657 96165 :huansinho!~huansinho@14.151.211.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337447659 536566 :huansinho!~huansinho@14.151.211.9 PART :#esoteric < 1337448095 725720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337449674 786918 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-147-39.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337449684 188274 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-150-253.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337450376 15069 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-179.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337451094 852657 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337451432 404840 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-piracy-boosts-music-sales-study-finds-120517/ < 1337451596 416677 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337451628 593896 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i guess the record industry wants to have their cake and eat it too. < 1337451714 958850 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices that every other time someone has spoken i have responded and it might be time for a break < 1337451723 939879 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1337452980 287154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337453227 530211 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337453484 254871 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337453487 481119 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1337453517 711660 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337453526 961163 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :831) they call finnish human-readable? < 1337453534 994932 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1337453538 295683 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. < 1337453541 990874 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1337453544 934476 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​].~"MɱʂefO_4eD(2.tз};M0{zZ.7{^B'_O.IaS@."c:Y.I”ƥ0I.~nY&`ƫ@bcMb+.Jj...S\.Aa#+ \ '.t.^˕4Nx-.BPhb..iJ@f:QLܒ;΢dɇe.z..Rz \ .w!*Ax2^fMVkl.Rg.[c(.k~{ ".+.[0~6.#ov0.qFS=]C"`ݑ.ts. < 1337453552 63691 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually they called finnish easy to read. < 1337453579 873652 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Taneb < 1337453582 508283 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :439) Turned out he got recursion, he just didn't get the return statement \ 445) Cut to February War were declared A galaxy in turmoil Anyway, Febuary '10 \ 446) I can't afford one of those! A grandchild, not a laser printer \ 453) There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different < 1337453606 2657 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember 453 < 1337453611 567860 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 453 < 1337453614 556259 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :453) There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [...] You've just gave me a different result [...] It's always insane to expect different results, even when it's likely to occur. < 1337453958 449873 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337453986 512773 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`qutoe Ngevd < 1337453988 823368 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: qutoe: not found < 1337454001 245622 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Ngevd < 1337454004 9585 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :619) Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love \ 625) [in the context of Open University] "Unlike other operating systems, Linux operating systems use Linux" \ 628) Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov \ 630) Also you steal Berwick from us and then < 1337454058 927724 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote nortti < 1337454061 553173 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :823) nortti: fizzie has done some impressive stuff in befunge, which is essentially the two-dimensional version of finnish politics. \ 824) It's... not really links2-optimised. elliott: I don't think that any page is links2 optimised < 1337455616 267377 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337456584 164777 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337457574 831184 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337458674 233326 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-230-103.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337458679 644126 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-147-39.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337460218 920877 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337460238 920063 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1337460307 195349 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337460486 339332 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell is the most banny I've ever seen a channel that hadn't been taken over by a musician from New Jersey < 1337460504 69761 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that happen frequently < 1337460541 629934 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happened once... < 1337460578 585611 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The channel no longer exists, but for a short time I was its owner < 1337460614 671308 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :banny? < 1337460617 888810 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people gettin banned? < 1337460624 616178 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Person < 1337460641 302166 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :branny < 1337460646 326802 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what for / why is it remarkable? < 1337460651 668708 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: A troll is rejoining with different IPs. < 1337460655 637017 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing particularly remarkable. < 1337460674 16910 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't IRC very much, but when I do, I mostly stay in the comfort of this very channel) < 1337460881 135453 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best tranny. The banny. < 1337460915 370953 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The intersection between #esoteric and #haskell is a number of people < 1337460921 55011 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is at least 3 < 1337460935 524280 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you solve the EXCITING PUZZLE? < 1337461720 442838 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, do the update thing! < 1337461802 26203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337461828 627631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337461828 793927 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337461862 130566 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1337461907 742456 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, update < 1337461932 786393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337461947 134950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hello < 1337461963 636718 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's been sausagey chaos on #haskell < 1337461964 746622 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @tell elliott @echo @echo @echo < 1337461964 969549 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Consider it noted. < 1337461998 587439 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: helo < 1337461998 724281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337462089 735790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hopeful when he said "SSH is awesome" but when i asked he says he'd only consider himself a "ssh fanboy" on the condition that telnet was the only alternative :( < 1337462185 647956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337462185 897955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337462202 184485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :condolences, monqy < 1337462242 772982 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @tell shachaf @echo @echo @echo < 1337462242 935900 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : You can tell yourself! < 1337462252 303158 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: OR CAN I? < 1337462272 335685 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337462825 304803 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what puzzle? < 1337462856 407909 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many non-interesecting "8"s can you fit on a plane? < 1337462906 232154 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, depends how big the plane and the "8"s are < 1337462914 329633 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The plane is infinite. < 1337462921 249824 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 8s can be any size you like. < 1337462940 983798 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going for an infinite number < 1337462961 645222 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question is whether it's countably many. < 1337462992 137636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess yes, since you can pack 8s into the dip in the middle. < 1337462997 323255 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going for uncountable < 1337463012 156143 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the 8s can get stupidly tiny < 1337463017 315461 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mathematical term) < 1337463051 395006 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, prove it. < 1337463058 712820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1337463064 40070 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Circles are easy but 8s are much trickier. < 1337463072 306863 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's "the dip in the middle"? < 1337463086 589077 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider a circle surrounding an 8 < 1337463098 604781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The thing connecting the two "o"s. < 1337463114 30143 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 8s can go into other 8s, of course. < 1337463129 848113 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, that doesn't make it any more countable? < 1337463153 896008 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who said it was countable? < 1337463166 485041 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I claimed it wasn't! < 1337463191 473242 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's uncountable without putting 8s in other 8s, it will be uncountable with that ability < 1337463208 261993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's uncountable because you can imagine packing the reals the same way, Q.E.D.. < 1337463210 231343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*D. < 1337463232 137736 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have little idea what I'm talking about, btw. Most of my knowledge of this topic comes from reading irregular webcomic) < 1337463236 265307 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so how is it uncountable without putting 8s in other 8s? < 1337463250 325616 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the 8s can get stupidly tiny < 1337463262 201109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Just pack circles and then s/circle/8/? < 1337463274 316534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :8s have a bounding circle. < 1337463293 20040 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337463378 688656 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1337463380 85249 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337464303 342453 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, because circles can go inside each other. < 1337464345 765456 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The obvious packing is f(r : R⁺) = Circle { center = (0,0), radius = r } < 1337464359 766512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but an 8 is just a circle with a twist. < 1337464369 246076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can pack 8s into the side, which is the equivalent of the inside. < 1337464386 880133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think of taking a circle and twisting it to make an 8, and what happens to the insides. < 1337464389 484111 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the "obvious packing" I mentioned doesn't work. < 1337464395 178416 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the 8s intersect. < 1337464399 164307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See above. < 1337464400 545448 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So suggest another packing. :-) < 1337464402 416779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't pack the 8 into the 8. < 1337464406 531146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You pack the 8 into the side of the 8. < 1337464414 431509 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but how do you get uncountably many that way? < 1337464444 148132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Put a real number in the top circle of the 8. < 1337464454 795903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ascending on each side. < 1337464459 654633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that you can find any real number by diving deep enough. < 1337464467 784261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ascending. < 1337464470 211391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what I mean. < 1337464476 275463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to make a formal proof. < 1337464482 707786 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I have no idea what you mean. < 1337464488 42253 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think it works. :-) < 1337464603 166543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, do you understand what I mean by twisting a circle in the middle to get an 8? < 1337464649 837938 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of? < 1337464651 372388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you imagine a certain kind of (not physically possible twist), you can imagine what's in the very middle of the circle actually ending up at the sides of the middle point of the 8 where the circles join, on the outside. < 1337464656 806486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*possible) twist, < 1337464670 742481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not physically possible because you sort of twist it in-place.) < 1337464680 3389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm sure there's a fancy topological definition of it.) < 1337464688 72740 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you have two non-intersecting concentric circles, and you twist them both, you get two intersecting 8s. < 1337464705 725681 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe I don't understand what you're saying. < 1337464706 317602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I didn't even state it based on the circles originally. < 1337464724 77501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is: the middle of the 8 has some free space, right? < 1337464731 871579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the two circles meet, there's some space to the left and right of the midpoint. < 1337464732 570020 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Estimated delivery date: Today. < 1337464737 589926 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current location: 2,000 miles away. < 1337464738 616811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can pack 8s there. < 1337464739 946338 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeaaaaaaaaaah. < 1337464748 87302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So just pack one on each side, and repeat the process. < 1337464759 742714 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's only going to be countably many. < 1337464769 378007 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can trivially enumerate these 8s. :-) < 1337464776 135179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, right. < 1337464779 464171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1337464783 690187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just tell me the answer. < 1337464808 458207 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then it's not an EXCITING PUZZLE anymore. < 1337464816 263976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not exciting. < 1337464844 847955 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1337465136 106627 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would a packing problem have uncountably infinite pieces in a space? < 1337465177 380667 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really packing. < 1337465180 167322 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bad word for it. < 1337465195 544023 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Circles can go inside each other. < 1337465205 69597 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just can't intersect. < 1337465257 506678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, tell us the solution. < 1337465284 566119 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would spoil it. < 1337465303 112536 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't want to SPOIL IT, would you? < 1337465333 228048 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can give you a hint: < 1337465341 225186 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is packing discs (filled-in circles) possible? < 1337465400 5309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure. :( < 1337465420 66549 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so figure that out first. :-) < 1337465462 47483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1337465467 504327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too tired. < 1337465469 946315 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1337465472 526242 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go to sleep! < 1337465497 268597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just did. < 1337465618 783708 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should post on the Allegiance forums < 1337465624 881758 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They need to fix the installer < 1337466749 691746 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://type.method.ac/# < 1337466767 484068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've played that. < 1337466769 945712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't very good at it. < 1337466814 269596 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it make sense that the letters at the end aren't movable? < 1337466850 689895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, otherwise the game would be impossible; there would be an infinite number of valid kernings, parameterised on letter spacing. < 1337466874 545342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. all of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/40/Letter-spacingS1.png are kerned correctly.) < 1337466888 535287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, ostensibly. Assume they are; they could be incorrect, but that's not the point.) < 1337466922 328194 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1337466938 186798 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kept wanting to squish everything together < 1337466968 316594 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually finish the game >.> < 1337467534 950937 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337467536 325288 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Client Quit < 1337467544 937471 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337468807 791954 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shachaf How many non-interesecting "8"s can you fit on a plane?" rather trivially only countably many < 1337468849 432271 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is similar to the one for "uncountable sum of positive reals is infinite" < 1337468912 121507 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the latter problem, we note that if for all 1/n, we had just countably many over that magnitude, then we could just take the countable union < 1337469014 706044 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly, for the eights, we note that if you take any "rational interval of 8 approximations", then some approximation interval is uncountable, which will be a contradiction. by an approximation interval i mean something like "height of the 8 is between x and y, and the angles in the middle are between z and w" or something. < 1337469050 880635 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is all very standard, but this is a common problem type in noob competitions < 1337469211 538542 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay 8's are particularly simple so you just need to look at the size of bounding boxes < 1337469230 854128 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, monqy etc < 1337469276 809421 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is ever so slightly more interesting for Y < 1337469625 874259 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"trivial" < 1337469704 363063 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"very standard... noob competitions" < 1337469749 299094 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337469762 323176 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly bullshit no one should be doing < 1337469949 902778 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can no space with a nontrivial fundamental group have uncountably many nonoverlapping embeddings? < 1337470059 459634 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah seems so < 1337470103 212635 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you can get anything interesting out of this < 1337470117 611784 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-145-204.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337470122 141287 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-230-103.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337470156 188275 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for being a dick about it < 1337470164 851098 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think shachaf's puzzle was meant to revolutionize mathematical research < 1337470173 860026 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1337470187 251529 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was a little puzzle for a group of people casually interested in mathematics < 1337470190 300338 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, someone takes my being a dick seriously < 1337470468 126164 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what, did shachaf invent the puzzle? < 1337470528 261845 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i guess not < 1337470685 735560 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i read my lines and wonder wtf you're menstruating abou < 1337470686 550372 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1337470697 943740 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't eve < 1337470701 119299 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :n insult anyone < 1337470725 551115 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for being a dick about it < 1337470742 199148 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::--------------------------------------------D < 1337470906 625005 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway does this game have a point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUC2tpY5gb4 ? < 1337470940 41374 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my attention span for flowers is not long enough to get it < 1337470989 586867 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti_ < 1337471008 535903 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i guess it is, you hit flowers with the petals < 1337471053 608575 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Games aren't always about senseless violence and violence. Some have a deeper meaning and an actual purpose. Take this game, Flower, for instance. It is the opposite of? violence. < 1337471062 951521 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- dude on youtube < 1337471115 310263 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337471581 14777 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337473451 995061 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oklofok can no space with a nontrivial fundamental group have uncountably many nonoverlapping embeddings?" oookay wtf was i thinking :D < 1337473468 562003 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a fucking circle :D < 1337473482 810047 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway back to sleep < 1337473511 73535 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: 8 != 0, _even in shape_ < 1337473610 832261 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 just needs a twist. < 1337473624 71386 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Betht pony) < 1337473832 983120 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337473882 931310 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :betht? < 1337473897 67653 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also am i sleeping, because i sure hope so? < 1337473903 567431 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-145-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/QFUK I am mad. < 1337473928 483882 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give a tl;dr version? < 1337473940 643346 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-145-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It encodes uncompressed PNGs. < 1337473956 773206 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i wrote one of those < 1337473968 964206 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why mad? < 1337474014 213415 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i mention that we programmed this ramsey theoretic function for fun which cannot actually be evaluated for any nontrivial inputs < 1337474024 48675 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-145-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is how I intend to do screenshot functionality in cmako. < 1337474045 715874 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-145-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also savestate functionality. < 1337474087 301799 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ackermann-like function which explodes beyond comprehension at 3, and is defined for all ordinals up to \omega^\omega^... :P < 1337474166 430568 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you can read in a game from an image? < 1337474182 765626 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of game is it? < 1337474191 769220 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I'm assuming it's a game < 1337474195 33845 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the mako vm? < 1337474213 96967 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-145-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Thing a friend of mine came up with. https://github.com/JohnEarnest/Mako < 1337474238 937887 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-145-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda been fun implementing. < 1337474276 673341 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool :) < 1337474289 428505 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the sort of way I talk to my gf is leaking into IRC < 1337474388 909601 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay it makes us happy :) < 1337474487 967712 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: so tell me about this gf < 1337474604 139999 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's doing programming at our college, she likes the Stargate franchise, she's smart (although she seems to not have independently learned CS stuff) < 1337474691 271050 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds agreeable < 1337474692 90709 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :She has no physical manifestation, apparently, but then who needs one *shrugs* < 1337474692 608156 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She seems to like everything I point her to (in terms of fiction etc.) She now likes The IT Crowd, Homestuck, and ... I don't remember what else < 1337474718 501554 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the meaning of "he" and "she" start to blur when you have no physical manifestation, but again, not really relevant. < 1337474741 939926 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-145-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Incorporeal entities can still self-identify as a gender. < 1337474761 400704 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's so ... so ... /corporeal/. It's beneath them. < 1337474766 137171 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wanna collaborate on a programming project? :x < 1337474779 236376 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no, programming sucks. < 1337474783 918659 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337474796 199909 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suck, iykwim < 1337474797 230065 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;o ;o ;o < 1337474809 678520 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337474812 566294 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch < 1337474824 671508 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to programming so much < 1337474835 871649 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i've gotten so smart that i got your reference < 1337474843 534525 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*having programmed < 1337474848 842010 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337474850 562329 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: augur just uses "programming project" as a euphemism for gay sex. Actually, he uses almost everything as an analogy for gay sex. < 1337474857 959984 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1337474860 718118 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: alas, right now i mean it literally < 1337474861 18365 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i'm really tired < 1337474862 438182 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr, *euphemism < 1337474869 143788 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: then no, for other reasons < 1337474872 65294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*euphonium < 1337474884 137845 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*eunoia < 1337474922 939573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ekljgfbdfg < 1337475019 52186 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: but now you have the wrong article < 1337475027 808265 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're in trouble < 1337475064 152827 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: No, I just switched accents mid-stream. < 1337475112 406876 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337475299 817741 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1337475333 97254 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my non-native eyes cannot always tell from text < 1337475465 294025 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: having programming suck my dick would be nice for a change, usually it seems to be the other way around < 1337475497 905433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337475501 232688 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: now i've found your github account < 1337475504 4817 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bootstrap-linux < 1337475505 860494 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cool :) < 1337476199 859330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337476400 673845 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: If you join #musl , you'll see that there's roughly one distribution per channel member, give or take. < 1337476520 82623 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1337477303 796120 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: eeyup. The horror! Okey dokey lokey! Yaaay. Ha ha, the fun has been doubled! NOPE! < 1337477360 524391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337477380 413402 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What elliott is trying to say is, this kind of talk belongs in #esoteric-ponies < 1337477392 361214 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, of course. < 1337478300 908629 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337478668 372428 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337478669 226682 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337479574 902725 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337481191 829424 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-111.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337481206 341201 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-145-204.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337481807 996524 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337482652 654481 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337482993 445433 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-148-103.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337483012 24749 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-111.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337483139 176293 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1337484781 240306 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337485269 185353 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337485269 377837 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1337487235 385486 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337487248 284012 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-148-103.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337489433 215089 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/AfdU < 1337489460 21596 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1337489466 801135 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PNG encoder. < 1337489490 619573 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1337489496 737161 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Partly for kicks. < 1337489601 403207 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, sorry, shouldn't have pastebinned so soon. < 1337489628 18721 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genericising the thing works better when you do so completely. < 1337489648 409555 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/TaED < 1337489861 813317 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: describe the interface < 1337489941 773981 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: You pass write_png a FILE* to write to, width and height of the image, the image, and a NULL-terminated list of chunk names in char*, chunk lengths in size_t, and chunk data in void*. < 1337489957 950527 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Waaaait, not quite. XD < 1337489962 892703 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fucked it up slightly, XD. < 1337490192 438004 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/EKPM < 1337491313 322517 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uint8_t (*buf)[w] < 1337491321 245302 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC THAT IS NOT A VLA ON THE STACK, THAT IS A POINTER TO A VLA < 1337491746 193587 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337491795 42182 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337492050 826350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: pointer-to-VLA is a vaguely dubious type anyway < 1337492060 224265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any particular reason why you can't just use a pointer to the first element? < 1337492108 980783 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Because I want to write foo[i][j] not foo[j + i*stride]; < 1337492160 550556 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have the reasonable expectation of gcc implementing a 13 year old standard right. < 1337492291 741747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1337492320 157807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm not actually certain offhand that a VLA /of/ VLAs is legal < 1337492421 847683 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It really, truly is. < 1337492571 765429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably all the inside ones have to have the same length < 1337492600 303370 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. < 1337492651 986718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337492664 134850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:59 coppro: You pass write_png a FILE* to write to, width and height of the image, the image, and a NULL-terminated list of chunk names in char*, chunk lengths in size_t, and chunk data in void*. < 1337492673 118275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FILE * is a bad interface to use :( < 1337492740 508845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the standard one < 1337492758 974836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1337492759 662452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, btw, was it people in here that were complaining that commands buffered their output? or elsewhere? < 1337492774 926779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a "nobuffer" program that wraps the relevant libc functions to not do buffering < 1337492781 252652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, pikhq_'s encoder can't be used to portably write a png to memory without pain < 1337492806 266635 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Therefore, fuck not-POSIX. < 1337492807 640614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to a network transport that isn't "bare" (additional headers etc.) < 1337492822 950704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: you wouldn't have a fun time doing it on POSIX either < 1337492840 531294 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :open_memstream says what? < 1337492845 741760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmemopen is POSIX.1-2008 < 1337492855 603832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said fun time < 1337492868 580184 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh no 3 lines aaah" < 1337492871 9868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, those require specifying a size ahead of time < 1337492884 100402 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :open_memstream doesn't. < 1337492896 754179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, indeed < 1337492899 293476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, see my other objection < 1337492899 314010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, open_memstream is the dynamically sized version (also POSIX) < 1337492907 760417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an in-memory string is a special case < 1337492919 109033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all you really want is a simple callback that takes a bunch of bytes < 1337492926 711014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(FILE *) is overspecifying < 1337492947 808902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fopencookie! < 1337492952 173481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact < 1337492957 687110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although that's a GNU extension) < 1337492962 372694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the meantime, this thing is really, truly not working. < 1337492965 578028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just parameterise it on write_chunk (where s/FILE */void */ and bundle a void *) < 1337492966 836160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1337492992 967543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct sink { void *data; void write-chunk(void *data, char type[4], size_t len, uint8_t *data); } < 1337492994 754043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, probably: < 1337492997 890699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OTOH, especially with C not having lambdas, it'd be a pain to write out the callbacks < 1337493014 926009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct sink { void *closure; void write(void *closure, char *data, size_t len); } < 1337493017 354504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be easier < 1337493026 783435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no it wouldn't; most of the time, you'd just say file_sink(my_file_ptr) < 1337493037 547493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you getting file_sink from? < 1337493039 437881 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :write_idat seems to be shoving me a nice, long chunk 0 bytes. < 1337493044 417368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd come with the library < 1337493058 39945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when does it free its data? < 1337493058 208069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it'd be inconvenient to add new outputs < 1337493064 121079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but inconvenient is better than impossible < 1337493065 592170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: huh? < 1337493071 434803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, data would be the FILE * < 1337493079 345232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(closure is a better name) < 1337493081 734557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're saying "file_sink(my_file_ptr)" < 1337493087 770027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it returns a struct < 1337493092 276775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when does that struct get freed? < 1337493096 695010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you breaking thread-safety? < 1337493120 212318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, you've answered your own question by contradicting yourself < 1337493126 408761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in lines two and three there < 1337493136 653572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I haven't < 1337493142 279849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337493144 415419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you meant to say: < 1337493148 643794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it returns a pointer to a struct < 1337493166 111933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, I forgot it was even possible to return entire structs via copying < 1337493181 668324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the struct is just shorthand for passing the closure and function as two separate parameters here < 1337493184 523718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that would be awkward < 1337493226 444529 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aight, works now. < 1337493232 363689 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, no. < 1337493266 444329 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the heck am I getting a giant empty IDAT chunk? < 1337493274 373905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, I won that Crawl Light game < 1337493367 852934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm waiting for something before I play crawl light but I forget what it is < 1337493374 444930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hard mode < 1337493377 252980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot that last time, too < 1337493382 759848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news: hard mode now actually works! < 1337493398 794384 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it hard though < 1337493414 453938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear it was hard enough that he had to turn down the hardness slightly! < 1337493417 7942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for summoned things or something < 1337493431 996602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you won Crawl Light? neat? < 1337493440 482475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that with that +23 armour? < 1337493443 792150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, neat is a question? < 1337493453 388298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, that's basically why I won :) < 1337493766 985373 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337493853 170373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You should play Light, it's like Crawl but easy. < 1337493864 734440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Under suitably lucky circumstances.) < 1337493910 407758 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want easy < 1337493912 899883 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1337493917 484170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want good < 1337493928 113653 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337493943 568014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: It's easy if you find +23 cpa. < 1337493952 737259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's not actually easy. < 1337493971 164389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to see the second Pandoora. :'( < 1337494112 849736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Have you played the bee castle? < 1337494115 739046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think of what you're missing. < 1337494116 253769 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337494119 221129 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it's boring < 1337494119 564027 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is *immensely* confused < 1337494122 485685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bees are boring < 1337494130 506837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is, admittedly. < 1337494143 318459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's also a castle of bees. < 1337494166 79811 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanilla has castles too, light probalby has them too < 1337494167 696680 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting nothing but a giant chunk of 0x00 out here. < 1337494173 349672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Does it have NetHack's castle? < 1337494178 122610 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1337494190 856872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Tell monqy about the wonders of the bee castle, man. < 1337494194 696177 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemuel castle is good though, dunno if it's anything like nethack castle < 1337494197 662495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're an expert on the grounds of adding it to the topic. < 1337494202 519366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*having added < 1337494279 21156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee castle! < 1337494285 460896 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1337494302 55934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've been spouting "bee castle!" at dtsund every few months since he first brought the subject up < 1337494308 894436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it exists it's not such a good meme any more :( < 1337494312 298752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Just imagine! No hunger, no identification, no curses. < 1337494323 112154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just all that... good... Crawl... fun... uhhh, never mind. < 1337494331 371060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still has big levels!! < 1337494341 587021 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's not monqys-crawl" < 1337494343 518815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: But there's less of them! < 1337494350 67610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can just imagine one level as being, like, two levels. < 1337494362 944059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's an exciting barrier on one of them! < 1337494390 889731 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't help < 1337494403 352655 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it stashing and inventory management and stuff!!! < 1337494420 76932 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't decided what to do about inventory management in monqys-crawl but at least there won't be stashing < 1337494430 250746 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there will be fewer items < 1337494445 9396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still less annoying than Crawl! < 1337494453 560434 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1337494459 481535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also, uh... < 1337494478 358876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Banded mail! < 1337494481 793811 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337494483 179561 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337494486 527087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't care about banded mail!! < 1337494494 100766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What kind of a monster are you??? < 1337494522 389390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are now monqy "waits for hard mode; complains about level size after wards" monqys-surname. :( < 1337494528 360921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*afterwards < 1337494554 63326 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the only thing i'm complaining about < 1337494557 380384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the idea that monqy's surname actually is monqys-surname < 1337494559 565499 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm complaining about plenty of other things too < 1337494592 763966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: whois giveth and whois taketh away, Mr. (this is obviously not my real name). < 1337494613 356321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I think you're just scared of dying without your script!!! < 1337494621 908638 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: untrue < 1337494624 82350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I whoised monqy hoping it would list "monqy monqys-surname" as the realname < 1337494628 41742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it didn't :( < 1337494629 811894 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: remember how i got wrapped into that tournament < 1337494632 780038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That's the taketh away. < 1337494642 473571 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i haven't died yet!!! < 1337494648 669362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Yeah, but you cast mephitic cloud! < 1337494654 641058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You just can't play like you used to. < 1337494656 705476 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i cast it because you told me < 1337494659 693040 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: to < 1337494662 693929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: !!! < 1337494666 190964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Oh sure. < 1337494671 697115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wanted to cast it! < 1337494676 677945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just showing you the horror inside of you. < 1337494680 679662 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337494686 726498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's okay, some of us are just bad. < 1337494702 979998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can avoid Light if you want but you cannot avoid your decay!!! < 1337494704 619964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1337494706 345234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!!!!! < 1337494707 419300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1337494707 764105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337494707 935897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1337494710 6872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: ! < 1337494726 693897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337494744 34901 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337494751 935940 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll play light eventually sometime. was hard mode the only thing i was waiting for? < 1337494753 480043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: As I was saying, you should play Light. < 1337494755 292081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hi. < 1337494762 502059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that as a threat :) < 1337494776 79633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "kool" -- monqy monqys-surname, 2012 < 1337494777 810786 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a playful sounding threat < 1337494779 952683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Well, that was the thing you remembered last time. < 1337494785 936856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In #CrawlLight. < 1337494795 69083 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe i'll play it < 1337494798 192038 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should I play < 1337494800 516925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best part is that the hard mode is alpha quality right now, so it'll be just as fun as monqys-crawl! < 1337494810 548505 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fun < 1337494814 782776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: SEAM < 1337494815 744966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: HaCr < 1337494818 563422 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heeey, it works. < 1337494836 481749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: meh, SEAM isn't even oldwon any more < 1337494850 648447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was nemelex challenge, I think < 1337494854 240232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is /why/ it's newwon < 1337494863 276044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1337494863 963874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a great combo, not only is it bad, it's not bad /enough/ to run as a challenge < 1337494867 964389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is oldwon, because AM doesn't exist any more < 1337494882 199129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1337494883 236012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, bleh, they rereremovedit? < 1337494898 502111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337494899 533853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:20 oldwon[1/2]: CeAr CeAs CeIE CeSt CeTm(Pac) CeWn CeWr DDCj DDMo DDTm DEAK DEAr DEPr DgEn DgSu FeDK FeFi FeNe(mikee) FePr FeWr GhAK GhVM GhWr HaAM HaSu HESt HuAs KoCK KoEn KoFi KoWz MfAE(hyperpivotal) MfAM MfPr MfSu MiSu(coolrobin) SEAM(coolrobin) SEFi SEPr SpAE SpGl VpAs VpEE VpFE VpTm < 1337494909 163835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's just still oldwon-in-progress < 1337494916 880790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AM used to exist, then they removed it, then they unremoved it < 1337494934 557136 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't remember it being a nemelex' choice < 1337494936 981801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:22 The RNG chooses: FeCj. < 1337494940 163328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: play fecj < 1337494943 631014 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jokes that < 1337494944 264882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that crawl light doesn't have felids < 1337494945 764293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1337494946 111982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1337494946 452557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337494947 695345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337494950 789899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^s$// < 1337494956 112690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye was perfectly correct on its own < 1337494968 575496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:22 The RNG chooses: GhAK. < 1337494971 700330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow too perfect to be true < 1337494974 299495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :play ghak < 1337494977 477847 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337494979 241496 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337494980 482404 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337494985 103967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that really happened, I swear < 1337494997 378877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:22 !rng @badchar < 1337494997 396882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:22 The RNG chooses: FeCj. < 1337494997 548738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:22 !rng @badchar < 1337494997 893828 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no im laughing at the joke where light doesnt have ghak < 1337494998 960277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:22 The RNG chooses: GhAK. < 1337495000 950325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337495003 212606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1337495004 976880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its sitll < 1337495007 71398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~spookey~ < 1337495011 808512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:23 The RNG chooses: DEWn. < 1337495013 10013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :play dewn < 1337495014 192134 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spookey like ghak < 1337495028 525124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghaks raen't spookey. have you ever seen a crawl ghoule. < 1337495030 473363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're friendly. < 1337495038 84690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aern't < 1337495107 274380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:25 The RNG chooses: HOAs. < 1337495111 108986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: play higher-order abstract syntax < 1337495132 917923 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : no i dont want to pplay hoas < 1337495157 736231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's suggested KeWr twice; maybe you should play KeWr < 1337495175 19287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or DDWn or DEDK < 1337495193 575009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or MDPr (its a joke i dont like mountain dwarves) < 1337495200 54222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but its a joke pandoora came up with not me) < 1337495233 215252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MiEE. VpSk (ha). GhWz (ha). FeWz (ha). DSEn. < 1337495276 905985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much bot-operating work for monqy. < 1337495281 523778 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1337495284 977828 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont have a bot < 1337495290 904449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot is pandoora < 1337495295 659052 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1337495296 2129 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1337495305 799346 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to find something with pandoora, it'll probably suck that way < 1337495313 679998 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want something "actually fun" < 1337495353 594214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not dddk that sounds fun ! (assuming dks play like they do in monqys-crawl) < 1337495368 284017 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it works *correctly*. < 1337495387 131902 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that DEFLATE encodes little-endian, while PNG encodes big-endian? < 1337495392 560082 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I do! < 1337495449 213482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nope < 1337495453 915022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lack of divine healing? < 1337495460 335413 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: drain life < 1337495465 279550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: zombie shields < 1337495466 651313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also drain life < 1337495469 254338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1337495478 653946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking zombie shields though < 1337495503 489206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: mudk? < 1337495509 531249 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to play dk < 1337495512 986443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dkdk < 1337495515 957479 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ally herding remember < 1337495520 127739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 TOPIC #esoteric :not tommorow's topic | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337495527 701009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tomorrow we'll fix the typo < 1337495543 367216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the day after we'll reintroduce it! < 1337495548 104163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: MDFi (ha) < 1337495571 223779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, then it'll become "not yesterday's topic" < 1337495573 714858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337495575 310673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337495576 813087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337495578 188605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337495579 778463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1337495582 887140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fun fact: it can never become "yesterday's topic" without a falsehood being present in the chain < 1337495596 796054 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :157) colon is where your ass comes from right < 1337495598 110295 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yeasterday's topic < 1337495600 153066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor can it become "tomorrow's topic" unless it stays there forever < 1337495603 709988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you laughing < 1337495607 234309 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :419) The interpreter uses an unbounded tape size, but due to technical limitations will stop being unbounded if the tap size reaches 2^63 cells. < 1337495608 943320 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :724) I'm not biased towards humanity over sentient .txt files. < 1337495610 344162 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :561) elliott, it is typical of you Vorpal: so are most things I say < 1337495612 529064 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :495) Phantom_Hoover: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? < 1337495634 15179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :724 is crappy; 157 is crappier (if you make a joke out of this ill punch your face) < 1337495643 231616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that sort of joke < 1337495653 43368 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bad joke < 1337495654 258727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually kind-of like 724 < 1337495659 595985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 157 < 1337495662 572117 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* colon is where your ass comes from right < 1337495666 484311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also talking about it as a hypothetical will make me statistically more likely to punch you < 1337495667 857795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we're all agreed on that one, anyway < 1337495672 173089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the punches cannot be avoided by any means other than ignorance < 1337495688 238534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok how about < 1337495690 63450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I /can't/ make a joke out of that < 1337495692 886805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh let me log in < 1337495693 403925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tried < 1337495697 928129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't have said it if I did think of it < 1337495701 343765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the joke is "crappier" < 1337495702 662826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I'm disappointed :( < 1337495703 379943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap ass etc. < 1337495707 334391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, I see the connection < 1337495709 687421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just can't make a joke out of it < 1337495717 449352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can make a coincidence out of it, but a coincidence is not a joke < 1337495730 136364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let me see < 1337495745 305122 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke's on elliott, the joke is actually elliott's parenthetical < 1337495748 329483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: NaBe < 1337495753 693207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i picked that manually < 1337495757 25969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1337495760 110252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably insufficiently crappy < 1337495773 268455 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying to pick something crappy < 1337495773 440263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't bother selecting Na to see which were the good (unrecommended) ones < 1337495776 38061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337495779 306519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crappy in a very special sense < 1337495787 592441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaVM < 1337495790 962032 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337495796 757280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaVM of Chei < 1337495813 656115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are kenku interesting. i know literally nothing about them < 1337495817 173495 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :navm is "crappy" in the sense that they have the best poison magic apt in the game but I'm not casting meph < 1337495822 264123 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kenku are just tengu but in the past < 1337495827 20875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1337495829 837245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know nothing about tengu either < 1337495832 968965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that they're future kenku < 1337495857 67511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm not playing kenku < 1337495868 51412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337495871 677910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just asking `whye' though so i know < 1337495879 22632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i nede the facts to be in the possession of uh myself :( < 1337495881 808687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all fragile and stuff < 1337495899 694548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about... DrNe < 1337495914 916325 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd play OgRe but i don't want to < 1337495945 717706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DrWr? < 1337495960 54485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is hard ! < 1337496009 947385 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337496010 987220 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmmm < 1337496012 570340 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1337496016 37996 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to check something < 1337496034 489615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow ogres don't < 1337496038 342734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have many class options < 1337496039 790936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that are recommended < 1337496042 63546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*background < 1337496047 495345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noooooooo < 1337496051 356800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what im just < 1337496057 226613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand whtasts the no < 1337496061 734333 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/KXDZ Aaaah < 1337496075 359441 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played my ogwz in 0.8a and i don't know if tukima's was nerfed within 0.8a or 0.9a aaaahhhh < 1337496081 695160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask #crawllighte???? < 1337496107 832125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should play OgHe you've been overing over it for like 60 seconds < 1337496110 665964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hovering < 1337496139 757750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OgTm < 1337496140 561223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1337496147 296881 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogtm is good though < 1337496209 41467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you wanted something `fun' < 1337496213 420650 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1337496225 723684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was suggesting!!! < 1337496228 130007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you need help < 1337496229 537282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the skill system < 1337496231 123502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its complicated < 1337496246 97155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its too complicated for a monkey :( < 1337496276 503448 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's not `fun' about ogcr!! < 1337496287 146793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing ! < 1337496292 253945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i sent you a message but < 1337496294 426981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't prompt < 1337496297 354518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its in limbo forever,,, < 1337496302 497297 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think it works < 1337496356 640387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im so upset < 1337496395 73366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+F one < 1337496398 169200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to < 1337496399 412980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew < 1337496401 114384 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1337496405 860118 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1337496406 241108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1337496406 930993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomplete < 1337496410 242860 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1337496416 580936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go makhleb! or < 1337496419 496135 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd match if it was found < 1337496420 182828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that other altar was < 1337496421 407182 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i have a plan < 1337496422 522480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i know < 1337496424 588366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just incomplete < 1337496427 677195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1337496429 92670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you searched for the and shining < 1337496430 110997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not one! < 1337496434 422174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i told you to search for one < 1337496435 201630 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337496463 909714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :( < 1337496471 816664 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm going to be living out my ogwz dreams as this ogcr < 1337496528 726266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of like how my kobe tried to roleplay being a mibe or a trbe < 1337496534 145879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately it did not have the requisite hp < 1337496629 136313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: imo worship trog < 1337496629 826772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337496639 214354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm doing what i did on my ogwz < 1337496646 242341 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sif->tukimas->tso->holy gsc mania < 1337496664 133743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ah, i see; you're so bad at playing now that you have to rely on past blueprints to succeed < 1337496669 495704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice chokepoint < 1337496675 431557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337496680 258675 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iit's not about the success < 1337496687 574647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im `teasing yuo' < 1337496692 134026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337496737 290633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1337496754 303851 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first level is so many keypresses uuugh < 1337496782 492854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it gets better" - elliott, phd < 1337496803 211302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need excitement try quaffing fountains; picking up & wielding terrible weapons; adopting a bat < 1337496808 341038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*try: < 1337496813 928947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adopting a bat? < 1337496834 561321 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :resting, ugh < 1337496852 249738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: shoudl have gone dd < 1337496862 116950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just walk around with a bat trying to kill yuo its adorable < 1337496969 731453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337496970 279343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog < 1337496972 448198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337496994 837840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be great trog would be constantly angry at you! < 1337497014 169363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice exploding gnoll < 1337497054 215797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh i forgot the other good thing about crawl light < 1337497057 160173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sacrificing is so easy mmmm < 1337497101 456013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice temple entry vault < 1337497108 803357 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do stats ever regain naturally < 1337497116 103855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect not < 1337497117 847686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you lose 'em < 1337497120 820679 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :berk < 1337497132 33933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont you have a potion of fix that < 1337497142 195811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo every potion should be "potion of fix X" < 1337497147 304408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :potion of fix not being poisoned < 1337497162 14996 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa i wasnt looking at the sfcren < 1337497165 837674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1337497167 238060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :orc party < 1337497170 605686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :orc was killing you < 1337497171 460686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1337497173 83886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you walked down and < 1337497174 8835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :another orc < 1337497179 704393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"farewell, squarelos" < 1337497182 206521 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only saw the first orc < 1337497195 437834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you died as soon as you saw the second orc < 1337497198 652477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe on the very same turn, maybe on the next < 1337497199 510750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does sacrificing work in Light? just walk over the corpse? < 1337497200 366810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1337497202 814385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you didn't miss much" < 1337497206 425799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: p sacrifices everything in los < 1337497209 534782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1337497221 706928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other things you can do with corpses so walking over them doing that would be a pain < 1337497228 142738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(imo sacrifices should be removed but) < 1337497255 775080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more squarelos reasons: would let you sacrifice even more corpses in one go < 1337497400 220324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: go fedhas < 1337497405 695094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive literally never seen anyone worship fedhas < 1337497413 977711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what it's like < 1337497422 42562 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go fedhas yourself < 1337497435 894494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impolite :( < 1337497458 217729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: better banish that grey rat < 1337497498 509130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh the lack of the water indicator is super annoying < 1337497583 2943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy "too good to do a sewer with 2 AC" < 1337497612 316496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice robe < 1337497642 829003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice temple < 1337497650 901976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not getting a god yet? < 1337497669 305684 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"plans" < 1337497680 617398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand your plans :o < 1337497807 433560 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe it's curropted templ < 1337497811 422566 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should "check it out" < 1337497892 156780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im excite < 1337497899 531276 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasnt < 1337497902 935836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337497904 480020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-god < 1337497959 406568 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a lame acq for nonpolearms < 1337497969 421298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did i miss pandoora opening :( < 1337497970 929403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miss so much < 1337497975 675460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice flipped pandoora < 1337497980 388250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1337497985 813358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the other way around for me < 1337498000 769673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaults in Crawl are rotatable by default < 1337498003 559964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you tell them not to be < 1337498156 964629 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :little known secret: in light you have a "get free mp for free" ability < 1337498193 609217 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should pick a god now < 1337498215 160772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's the ability < 1337498220 842077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it 5 < 1337498237 770747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgetting spells in crawl gives you back the mp the spell's worth < 1337498248 893098 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in light you get that as an ability costing 7 glow < 1337498276 385297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ability < 1337498287 522691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgetting spells? (if so, what cost does it have in carwl) < 1337498290 700495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*corl < 1337498308 942395 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in normal crawl you have to use a scroll of amnesia, and before that you had to use a 4mp spell or the corresponding sif ability but if you;--forget spell--re with sif you--that's what i'm writing right now--can use channeling to gregain mp so < 1337498322 462108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it's not an ability in regular corl < 1337498323 692708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`huh' < 1337498332 265904 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: huh': not found < 1337498334 51148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why < 1337498337 86877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1337498340 698538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why light added it < 1337498344 69439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: foiled by euclid < 1337498581 610156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: remember D:6 is more than D:6 because shorter dunjen! < 1337498586 187851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hlepful advice from elliott" < 1337498586 706347 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i know < 1337498595 442769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no you needed me for my advice < 1337498597 331609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone does < 1337498700 345759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: fungus < 1337498707 715903 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1337498709 986625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"more helpful elliott advice" < 1337498720 31163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stay tuned for: banish that weak monster < 1337498767 599805 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh randomised movement energ < 1337498790 56874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you have some wands or something yuo're pillar dancing its an embarrassment to monqy < 1337498792 539954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that works < 1337498852 463408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i bad if i kinda like randomised movement energy btw < 1337498856 125861 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337498865 287342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it nerfs pillar dancing! < 1337498872 871566 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it buffs it too < 1337498880 483351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :howso; because sometimes you move twice instead? < 1337498887 114648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the monster moves 0 etc. < 1337498889 764628 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can dance until the monsters loses a move and then you can go up stairs and bam you're escaped < 1337498895 202744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337498895 947004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember giving quite a bit of feedback on that < 1337498900 178258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is randomised movement energy only for monsters, not for you? < 1337498901 790510 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's also really yucky and doesnt really work all that well against pillar dancing < 1337498903 33473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :randomized movement lets you get a lead < 1337498904 406531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed it was for both < 1337498905 263206 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only ofr monsters < 1337498906 888410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337498908 626749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if it was for both < 1337498910 184799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't really hurt pillar dancing < 1337498911 219220 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like it < 1337498913 120387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would make pillar dancing ineffective < 1337498914 323190 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1337498928 778500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier ways to nerf pillar dancgin "remove regen over time" < 1337498932 303753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dancgin < 1337498938 536732 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisel < 1337498943 990749 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337498951 16912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why they added it then < 1337498953 355552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's only for monsters < 1337498953 909990 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1337498965 793438 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1337498970 777242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337498975 42002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did they add randomised movement energy < 1337498977 775194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not to nerf pillar dancing < 1337498978 638702 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it effectively applies to the player too since monsters get extra moves and lose them < 1337498982 828351 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was to nerf pillar dancing < 1337498986 716195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok < 1337498996 545589 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what extra gain would it be to make it apply to player too < 1337498999 293764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier ways to nerf pillar dancgin "remove pillars" < 1337499162 133872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337499166 50439 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1337499172 887720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any way to get non-pathological terrain that does not allow for pillar dancing < 1337499183 247967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like your level layouts would end up being degenerate blobs < 1337499185 408515 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO PILLARS < 1337499189 121910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's the idea < 1337499193 101881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:29 easier ways to nerf pillar dancgin "remove pillars" < 1337499204 982701 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PILLARS YOU CAN PUNCH THROUGH < 1337499207 324149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was defining a pillar more precisely as "anything that allows for pillar dancing" < 1337499218 685438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where pillar dancing is defined as "going around a pillar to recover HP while followed by a monster" < 1337499219 931611 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's pillar dancing? < 1337499221 168239 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1337499232 129661 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better monster AI? < 1337499254 331345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggested that Xom should just collapse pillars if you walked round them enough < 1337499256 788052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what monster AI could do with it < 1337499259 794985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it just went the other way < 1337499261 153939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just < 1337499264 971399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pillar walk back and forth < 1337499268 218125 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're pillar dancing, another monster comes and helps < 1337499272 127359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ++ < 1337499291 463212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i think ais523's solution is even better than removing regen < 1337499301 481349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is that regardless or whether or not you're worshipping Xom? < 1337499304 831704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of < 1337499314 314594 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the regen removal isn't just for pillar dancing < 1337499320 473181 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also because i hate resting off damage < 1337499322 59192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i was being `unserious' < 1337499325 73966 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :among other things < 1337499342 711405 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to tell when sometimes you like bad things!! < 1337499349 611549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wow ouch my pain < 1337499352 493444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im offend < 1337499357 959713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :offend & upset < 1337499367 843773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that: i have impeccable taste < 1337499473 39475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eel party < 1337499483 211851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i missed a gost? < 1337499517 906024 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337499520 588016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337499525 452798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it fun < 1337499526 57360 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a wimp < 1337499527 930908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1337499528 478713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not sure < 1337499530 863912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it says "powerful"! < 1337499541 836822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*im < 1337499551 651368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it's a nice idea for Xom to do things sometimes even if you don't worship them < 1337499568 939628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if he doesn't, he doesn't really have much credibility as the god of random chaos < 1337499579 58703 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337499593 595102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(things that bother me: the overlap between xom and lugonu's flavour) < 1337499606 812421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can rationalise the differences to myself but it still feels like rationalisation) < 1337499611 255216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\)$// < 1337499620 843194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lugonu flavour = lugonu hates everyone < 1337499623 915173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than random chaos < 1337499635 524131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lugonu just corrupts things because other gods don't like it, IMO < 1337499640 956157 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337499649 695322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, the Abyss is pretty chaotic < 1337499669 115832 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1337499697 117681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my view of the differences is: Xom is all about arbitrary, meaningless chaos and only cares about being amused; Lugonu is the god of chaos of a destructive sort, motivated by aforementioned "Lugonu hates everyone" < 1337499884 931913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, what *is* with the jiyva-having-a-random-surname thing < 1337499905 850577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because random-descriptions-for-X is one of the most common Crawl feature requests < 1337499915 889192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(X is frequently Xom, despite them being implemented already for him) < 1337499927 424325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of random descriptions does Xom have? < 1337499942 971095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try pressing ^ when worshipping Xom < 1337499946 369568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't really remember < 1337499958 710214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC they were planning to expand the list, maybe they already hae < 1337499960 847093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have < 1337500024 378529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, a surname doesn't count as a description :) < 1337500034 845335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ah this is the death yake level isn't it < 1337500044 369166 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337500046 734787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337500049 250752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337500081 392244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice piety < 1337500193 673376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you sure it's not the death yake levl it looks so much like it maybe im thinking of another one < 1337500201 200330 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's elephants level < 1337500208 75456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's what i mean < 1337500212 112129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: by death yakes i mean < 1337500213 487692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret chamber thing < 1337500215 306287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :once yr done < 1337500218 34490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :statues become death yake < 1337500222 975425 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they become dire elephants < 1337500227 630229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337500230 839761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing -dog < 1337500280 239614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: good luk < 1337500318 971306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 70% of crawl targeting is exploiting the bresenham algorithm < 1337500367 443061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you already kill the boss thing < 1337500372 785764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"more things elliott didn't notice" < 1337500374 238633 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337500379 47319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it the anaconda < 1337500381 430105 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337500382 805765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337500388 327897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget this level completely!!! < 1337500391 831285 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I occasionally forget to ghaste instead of berk so i have horribel stats < 1337500415 792326 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337500431 383175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1337500440 96521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there no potions of make that better lying around < 1337500455 27985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lying around as in < 1337500457 222378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl+ffable < 1337500458 255969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1337500458 770400 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone destroyed the one i started with and i havent found anotherr < 1337500460 204432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i guess not" < 1337500463 610588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Str: 10 (20); Dex: 5 (13) < 1337500470 391588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "that's our monqy" < 1337500518 66472 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayb i;ll find some in orc < 1337500541 347188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate this eantrnace vault < 1337500541 935731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1337500543 896231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really hate < 1337500587 394486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i got a worse one < 1337500590 395553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a priest in the othe rone < 1337500594 828162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*other one" - elliott < 1337500600 671185 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wizards are worse than priests for me < 1337500605 144363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :predict splat into deep water < 1337500608 890164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1337500637 49529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice dragonbane < 1337500647 741417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i know they are for you < 1337500656 277160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not for me because i play mostly heavy armours ! < 1337500672 697684 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heavy armours don't shield your items from brutal wizard death < 1337500682 787381 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you;'re just careless about being in los of priests < 1337500687 954887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: true but i care about my hp more than my items!!! < 1337500691 117838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1337500696 808424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice ogremaurice < 1337500737 983129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you found a gsc yet < 1337500741 671535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess not since you're not wielding one < 1337500755 986042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found one in ?acq but i picked 3dex instead < 1337500811 529857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the joke is that you'd have a lot more than 3 extra dex if etc. < 1337500835 883222 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337500891 132629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi gsc < 1337500908 765724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice ogr pak < 1337500910 46984 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, ogre ending < 1337500918 169205 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will fuel my tukimas nicely < 1337500921 512856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gogre ending < 1337500924 268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats tukimas :( < 1337500930 983777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice hp < 1337500994 490308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get sif piety < 1337500995 590262 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be nice if i hand blink < 1337500997 418152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :casting spelles? < 1337500998 852566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelz < 1337500999 701934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :training spell skills < 1337501001 946714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337501011 912914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"too easy" - trog & makhleb & lugonu guy < 1337501018 359993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the guy is me) < 1337501028 863858 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :waht < 1337501059 362902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too easy piety gain thing < 1337501062 461947 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337501062 480174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whats awht < 1337501073 50373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1337501085 748002 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually more restrictive than killing things since if you want your xp to go into non-spellcasty skills you'll be spread thinner < 1337501090 485529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you still have to kill things to get the xp < 1337501099 419298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the tedium i meant was < 1337501100 445347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the saccing < 1337501117 270153 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337501117 957480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(more annoying in corl as ghoule where you could pretty much go for a snack at any time) < 1337501159 778535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use that dex robe < 1337501160 983491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :: p < 1337501164 298980 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a useless orc3 < 1337501175 572193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk do you have a cloak oh wait ogre < 1337501178 749339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know how ogre do armour < 1337501196 457857 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theay can wear robes and dragon armoures < 1337501202 866264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not cloak? < 1337501221 81459 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not body armoure < 1337501228 865482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help : ( < 1337501236 259995 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337501244 877097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of nonbody they can do cloak, nonbuckler shields, caps, hats (no helmet) < 1337501272 428713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337501284 89468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just saying re "lol @ that orc 3" < 1337501293 666416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it had clok (albeit waste of money to spend on clok but) < 1337501299 70001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what robe are you wearing anyway < 1337501307 809004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a mo < 1337501309 200579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337501310 271104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+2 < 1337501326 18167 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same robe < 1337501330 290954 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just elven instead of orcish < 1337501363 940847 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uugh no tukimas yet :( < 1337501374 168448 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no snake pit < 1337501382 183359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should do slime, i have this great slime strategy < 1337501408 986389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involves berking the royal jelly and then teleporting away after it finishes < 1337501418 922732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :100% success rate < 1337501425 53540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow swamp looks aweful < 1337501430 354275 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have I ever mentioned how I hate swamp < 1337501440 595064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you did i don't remember < 1337501445 700128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like shoals to me < 1337501447 419610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except more boring < 1337501510 77621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice amulet too bad < 1337501511 455095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int is < 1337501514 627979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your only undrained stat!!!! < 1337501521 209147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait where did you get acq < 1337501601 522173 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :floor < 1337501602 382071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice insubstantial wisps; nice hp < 1337501610 554582 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have I ever mentioned how I hate swamp < 1337501610 728113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo banish the wisps < 1337501626 494583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrates < 1337501690 595738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: 7 is such a bad tree glyph < 1337501692 504076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were they thinking < 1337501698 142997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably "oh no we've run out of ascii" < 1337501708 442831 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mind 7 < 1337501731 125387 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh party tricks < 1337501754 411319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :patry triqs < 1337501761 687623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice slime creatures mmmmmmm < 1337501765 672221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks like the worst branch < 1337501774 444556 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's up there < 1337501780 973399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the worst < 1337501788 619993 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :swamp or abyss or something < 1337501806 114745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kinda like abyss on account of being intentionally awful < 1337501811 370886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant imagine swamp was designed to be awful < 1337501821 23965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meleeing a powerful mdfi "good ideas" < 1337501853 370295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people like mountain dwarvs again i honestly dont get it < 1337501857 475048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and im a dorf fan < 1337501895 944039 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :desert dwarves are so much better < 1337501911 921454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/powerful/mighty/ < 1337501915 349747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: imo yes < 1337501926 637494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow dtsund uses meph < 1337501930 898736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not playing crawl light any more also jesus < 1337501930 917419 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(are desert dwarves a thing?) < 1337501932 172132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your items < 1337501933 378107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stope < 1337501934 754103 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i forgot to flight myself < 1337501950 982725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered running < 1337501963 2205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's shallow water you could jump into!!! < 1337501980 526800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337501988 31015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :picking up the scrolls before you stop being flames < 1337502112 610578 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh is this undead ending ugh < 1337502128 387664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: joke's that the curses don't do anything also yuo're dying < 1337502164 118636 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, joke's I have scblink < 1337502173 83195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you learned cblink? < 1337502176 531105 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scblink < 1337502179 906878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's scblink < 1337502184 226727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :semicontrolled < 1337502185 799887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337502201 975718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ps did you know you can train things not on the m list < 1337502205 457814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun factules < 1337502211 450348 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh dddrake < 1337502213 259715 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i know < 1337502221 217891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(super) duper death drake < 1337502339 4935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuo're dying monqy < 1337502348 195181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont die < 1337502366 669743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing crawl light has no monster regen! < 1337502369 422362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw < 1337502376 469876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you're not on hard mode you realise < 1337502380 372271 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realise < 1337502383 664228 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1337502385 383020 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hive sucks?? < 1337502389 867372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: dude the bee castle is < 1337502391 447209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really really easy < 1337502394 707456 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's < 1337502395 742280 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiiiive < 1337502397 632214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes 3 minutes with rPois more than 3 minutes with rPois < 1337502400 888606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's not hive it's bee castle! < 1337502405 185645 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hive < 1337502406 703941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :special just for normal mode players < 1337502413 973973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok monqy i guess you're just not up to < 1337502415 1980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard mode < 1337502417 689980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok < 1337502421 660215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can't all be winners < 1337502502 461501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337502505 534611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like you can't even handle normal mode monqy!!! < 1337502528 139572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you in water < 1337502534 964860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh flying < 1337502725 771514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: actually im not sure the branches actually change with pandoora 2 < 1337502727 320171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1337502729 421666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the branches above the barrier < 1337502745 921959 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not sure either! < 1337502848 876228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: < 1337502849 909907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:32 dtsund: Are the branches above the barrier affected by hard-mode? < 1337502850 80541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:32 Or is it just the dungeon and branches below the barrier? < 1337502850 676519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:33 The latter. < 1337502852 608819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:33 Okay, cool. < 1337502854 604879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:33 I didn't want to punish the player for opening the door early. < 1337502857 376494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:33 But it still applies to the whole dungeon, right, not just the part below that barrier? < 1337502858 689168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:33 Of course, this means that 3-runers in Hard will probably eventually just want to get their third rune from Slime; I might have to move the Slime entrance. < 1337502860 692955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:33 Just the part below the barrier. < 1337502862 514920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:34 Ah, okay. < 1337502864 515967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this assists < 1337502866 676916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i guess you can wait then" < 1337502887 470797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: 09:34 The hard-mode challenge prior to the barrier will be to conserve resources as much as possible, since item generation gets curtailed in hard-mode. < 1337502889 803761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: See, less items. < 1337502892 228917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like less items. < 1337503017 697594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I guess that's precluded by getting all yr items smashed/burned though!!! < 1337503173 991781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wow you get all the ghosts < 1337503182 597177 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shot iood at itself < 1337503188 598833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ghost < 1337503203 609036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what's that ring < 1337503221 259970 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-dam but a lot of useful stuff < 1337503226 318932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You crush the merfolk like a grape!!! < 1337503229 115978 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i swap it on when i need sinv or rpois or something < 1337503254 986509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hope you feel conservational < 1337503311 358305 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i want is tukimas dance is that too much to ask for :( < 1337503339 908854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe you'll get it in hard mode if you hold on to yr items!!! < 1337503348 463038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"crawl light giveth; & also taketh away sometimes" < 1337503415 418327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yr spells look fun. i should play something that does spells next crawl ss/light game < 1337503427 522972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i'm getting addicted to "yr" again < 1337503432 925487 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is yr bad < 1337503441 651089 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use yr a lot!! < 1337503455 115633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's great < 1337503467 559703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i'm getting addicted to it!!! < 1337503521 18169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: careful < 1337503522 985858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an alligator < 1337503526 775864 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337503542 442899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait its snapping turtle not alligator snapping turtle < 1337503704 478990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose poly < 1337503709 51787 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :polyphemus < 1337503711 632930 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unique cyclop < 1337503711 807959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose < 1337503714 917123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1337503724 848399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :death yake "not pushover" < 1337503731 238399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful ! < 1337503737 503328 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot to hast < 1337503738 360257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im doing my best monqy impression < 1337503756 771562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haste seems a bit "o p" to me!!! < 1337503757 704491 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's what the space was for < 1337503761 848244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what space < 1337503769 293489 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful ! < 1337503771 240935 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :light reverted the haste nerf < 1337503775 453682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337503783 165814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i do the space thing a lot now anyway because of you < 1337503787 834258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to control it but it's difficult! < 1337503788 701337 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337503813 101294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont like some of the things light does < 1337503820 739283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the nerf-reversing < 1337504033 608452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice hp - joe biden, 2006 < 1337504035 498622 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot to put on rpois < 1337504038 901120 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sea snakes hurt < 1337504068 673726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice hp - mitt romney, 4 ad < 1337504088 743799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice tukima's < 1337504096 273113 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: :( < 1337504097 214975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is: no tukima's < 1337504125 222965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: see if crawl had a wishing system like nethack... < 1337504186 285724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_You see here Sif Muna's Almanac of Improving Self {god gift}. < 1337504193 234250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337504195 266162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: pretty passive-aggressive of sif muna imo < 1337504202 608251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"here's a self-help book" < 1337504206 853702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i wrote it myself just for you" < 1337504209 337978 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"help yourself" < 1337504215 198537 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay finally 8 hours of sleep ^^ < 1337504247 414829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i have an imrpotrant theological question < 1337504251 930732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you become the champion of $god < 1337504252 962288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always < 1337504256 518981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE champion < 1337504263 80452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens to all the other worshipper's piety??? < 1337504266 252536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*worshippers' < 1337504274 881970 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who know < 1337504282 473047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come your piety is never decreased by other people becoming the champion IT ODESNTJ MAKE SENSE < 1337504304 341933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- david cameron < 1337504332 110832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice fire-catching imo < 1337504342 504521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice tukima's < 1337504347 579367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice sputterflies < 1337504361 180084 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never cast it yet < 1337504368 715652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's so beautiful < 1337504373 734651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the abbreviated name is beautiful < 1337504386 532558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rate < 1337504476 189168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: staff of energy sounds overpowered imo < 1337504481 753526 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1337504490 257073 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was nerfed in normal carwl < 1337504497 964404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"added to the monqy conduct list" < 1337504503 612878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote cblink < 1337504507 327887 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :826) hack and back? works on anything much slower than you at the cost of: guilt, hating yourself, me sending you the message "hi" am I also forbidden to cast mephitic cloud and cblink i will also send you "hi" if you: kite excessively, use mephitic cloud, -yes < 1337504508 401837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the monqy conduct bible < 1337504530 282335 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the nerf in normal crawl < 1337504531 527245 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :half hunger? < 1337504550 396261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im curious too < 1337504560 505788 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's acceptable in normal cawlr because hunger sucks < 1337504570 999931 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meph on the other hand is making fights boring < 1337504575 252226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what does it do in normal crawl < 1337504582 328967 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to eliminate spell hunger < 1337504584 777928 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now halves it or smth < 1337504586 746755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337504615 568974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i have this fear that light's replacement of hunger with glow for most everything is going to end up reproducing the hunger mechanism < 1337504627 651197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope it doesn't < 1337504632 913103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you found hive yet < 1337504651 351153 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't reproduce hunger but i don't like it because of resting glow off < 1337504655 5051 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :resting things off is eughgh < 1337504661 947038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: right so if they remove resting it off... < 1337504676 636362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah did you find hive < 1337504678 875101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yeah did < 1337504682 2363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337504683 402512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy < 1337504692 691084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"might want yr rPois" < 1337504703 194018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- monqy < 1337504734 793488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaff mut quaff mut quaff mut < 1337504735 483723 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, monqy update a number of minutes back < 1337504747 408724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dont quaff mut) < 1337504751 748592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you have cure mut in which case quaff mut) < 1337504756 658528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(elliott advice) < 1337504817 528044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: see, not just bees! < 1337504831 976790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :predicting deep water splat < 1337504848 167286 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'resting glow off' < 1337504862 611336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's the pandoora lmao < 1337504863 987239 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe crawl light should keep a list of all hard looking monsters you've seen on the level. whenever the list clears your glow becomes 0 automatically < 1337504870 985683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hey wait < 1337504873 430508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you skipping the rest of hive < 1337504875 887286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not fair you gotta get: < 1337504876 788181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the loot < 1337505031 783371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: think of it on the bright side < 1337505036 803937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you can do hive! < 1337505120 512545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw i doubt your save will end up fixed < 1337505126 173938 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=/ < 1337505137 863565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: through the combined powers of laziness and dtsund not having access to the server < 1337505151 985353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: which server are you on < 1337505163 2852 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdo < 1337505180 542851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cast lots of meph for me < 1337505189 990237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is elynae playing the tutorial < 1337505300 329503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rC-!!! < 1337505305 578942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it adds exclamation marks to yr rC < 1337505326 981051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that fda what used to be xtahua < 1337505505 124286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: this D:19 sure does look like vaults < 1337505511 98560 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens < 1337505594 265864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you use macros; macros are weird < 1337505621 110950 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use macros myself but not so much on robins < 1337505648 447165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I use macros myself" -- monqy "spacebar" monqys-surname < 1337505723 267989 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and technically autofight is a lua macro that's hardcoded to be bound to tab < 1337505729 875311 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so even you use macro < 1337505760 792427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's stock tho < 1337505762 610128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also lua < 1337505870 993352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: anyway by macros i meant < 1337505872 368794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-lua macros < 1337505875 64074 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337505876 643066 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use those too < 1337505895 329907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337505973 904610 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337506124 84788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's twistedres < 1337506126 487092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's new twistedres < 1337506142 999317 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :twisted resurrection < 1337506161 233611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice portal < 1337506162 625977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats it to < 1337506164 210374 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns corpses into purmanent allies < 1337506169 391646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whats new resurectednjtwiste < 1337506169 907758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1337506187 392621 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :old twistedres turned stacks of corpses into permanent allies (the bigger the stack, the stronger the ally) < 1337506212 481012 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new twistedres turns corpses into macabre masses and stuff which merge together into abominations so you don't have to play the corpse stacking game < 1337506241 899028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds better < 1337506252 516476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it better < 1337506316 553034 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes the spell better, yes < 1337506332 262437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what was the portal btw < 1337506349 145389 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abys < 1337506365 829774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337506384 480801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ps yuo've convinced me re movement energy randomisation < 1337506413 937467 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1337506428 967865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to show my support for the cause < 1337506464 557622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"support showd"" < 1337506467 155009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/"$// < 1337506473 940637 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1337506477 619963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#crawllighte < 1337506481 673808 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1337506491 372495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awaiting my paycheque from monqy < 1337506509 558505 :Dr_Frankenstein!~monster@2.212.241.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337506528 177960 :Dr_Frankenstein!~monster@2.212.241.215 PART :#esoteric < 1337506535 547727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :paycheque in thumbs up and a pat on the back < 1337506563 889950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im rich < 1337506987 363238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the uppercase names scare me a bit. do they scare you. < 1337506993 482322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm intimidated. < 1337507008 311512 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like them < 1337507027 496720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: they scare me. < 1337507031 113286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLAYING is a scary name. < 1337507131 692470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice very hungry < 1337507429 732239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice hp < 1337507583 866393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fight boris < 1337507585 925267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: fight boris < 1337507591 177919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you must flee < 1337507592 602991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :flee to vault < 1337507595 550107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1337507722 661492 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CFB2.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337508135 237864 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I just remembered that the Crawl tutorial is broken < 1337508139 52868 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should tell someone < 1337508143 117204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yr missing MEPHITICCLOUD right now < 1337508152 205515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl.develz.org port 345 watch it stat it's the most hilarious crawl play ever < 1337508241 304049 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1337508254 364397 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1337508272 957880 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337508272 976077 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337508292 665447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: MEPHITICCLOUD < 1337508295 513147 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1337508436 135278 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's hilarious about it? < 1337508525 62250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you started watching just after the streak of really hilarious stuff stopped < 1337508534 897314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe you saw the scroll-iding of a book! < 1337508563 414444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before that he miraculously berserked boris to death and then started dying after he started typing a note without pressing : first causing random things to happen < 1337508565 209248 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to ask "Couldn't you just read the book?" but I guess that's why it's hilarious < 1337508567 106900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then uh < 1337508569 390738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things happened < 1337508570 423588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes < 1337508586 796549 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going a bit fast for me to process < 1337508594 121470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:02 i like how it sort of seems like monqy knows what he's doing < 1337508594 139774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:02 and then it quickly turns bad every time < 1337508602 48628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now it's mostly boring grinding < 1337508606 631203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence why it's going so fast < 1337508618 131302 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ping me if it gets interesting < 1337508630 185463 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for an image in Pidgin < 1337508843 533687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it got funny < 1337508848 340914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hold off! < 1337508850 229600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo needs to "see" < 1337508854 999683 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1337508873 43669 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about should have bought a scroll < 1337508887 507112 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh e survived < 1337508887 853255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was exciting executioner melee < 1337508942 163892 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this ViewMTN thing being slow < 1337508971 225876 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you want to do what> < 1337509000 125032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: its still interesting _Enter note: time to fcloud some demons with no rpois < 1337509001 345542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do what < 1337509003 103580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337509004 308695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk into lava < 1337509007 533680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it says if you try < 1337509036 135271 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome is being annoying :/ < 1337509042 757019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm splat time < 1337509982 491768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: duplicate firbeall? < 1337510557 807853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: interest < 1337510591 22518 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337511655 56605 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, PH < 1337511681 981876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337512403 993584 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-144-68.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337512418 915015 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-204.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337513353 11108 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337515424 797995 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-149-77.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337515434 18041 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-144-68.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337516230 229288 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337516979 927448 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337517029 985899 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337517106 507866 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337517481 547133 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337517595 713268 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337517837 695749 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337518281 562732 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337518762 785879 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337519130 4055 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CFB2.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337519473 914701 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89167.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337520072 727446 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337520398 361604 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok guys, heres a puzzle: eee, esw, ese, ene, een, ees, ense < 1337520752 244601 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337520872 59280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, looks like compass directions < 1337520889 32885 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :es????e < 1337520903 81443 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is my guess < 1337520924 329589 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not a good guess < 1337521004 773226 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3e,3e1s,5e2s,7e1s,9e,11e1s,13e1s < 1337521028 318582 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how that is useful, nor whether that's correct < 1337521212 113229 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I will say is that there is a meaning to it all, and it's fairly unambiguous once you see it. >:-) < 1337521301 946542 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337521365 887187 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337521649 119253 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sighs < 1337521667 930138 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok to help out.. there are some isomorphic ways the puzzle could be presented < 1337521803 878292 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the puzzle could also be presented isomorphically: sss, sen, wnw, wsw, sww, nww, wnsw < 1337521824 79333 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if the word isomorphic is appropriate here though.. < 1337521852 890432 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the ultimate meaning of the puzzle is the same for both < 1337521963 978012 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe its better if i said < 1337521973 6590 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :www, sen, wnw, wsw, sww, nww, wnsw < 1337522279 742445 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337522427 434552 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ok i'll put it another way that might help, ok? :D < 1337522440 362087 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, wasn't paying attention < 1337522446 336358 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no its ok < 1337522500 483562 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: here it is reformulated eeee, eswn, ense, eese, eene, eeen, eees < 1337522706 408466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reading http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Radar/Animaniacs < 1337522834 656485 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok ill just spell it out cos its not really worth going on about any longer.. its compass directions to draw tetris pieces >:-) < 1337522957 299139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, cool < 1337523065 725327 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337523305 19605 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337523540 34092 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131759.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337523749 3214 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337524637 751053 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :not Tom Morow's topic | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337525122 337019 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus21 < 1337527347 862051 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337527365 184113 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337528104 337663 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1337528729 18069 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337528729 36490 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337528729 36618 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337528842 234590 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337528898 969248 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337528907 108129 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337528907 126415 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337529083 919961 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337529326 586783 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131759.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1337534920 87576 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-217.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337534934 231401 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-149-77.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337535161 39184 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: i guessed that it meant that but i didn't realize in my head that those were the tetris pieces, is there a consolation price for being that stupid? < 1337535199 705242 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i drew them first on paper.. and i had written abcd in the boxes < 1337535207 919939 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i got the idea while stareing at them < 1337535264 380922 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first of all its confusing because.. i included the initial position < 1337535294 964798 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also.. its confusing because it acts as if tetris pieces are set in stone < 1337535310 589166 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like oriented a specific way < 1337535407 853625 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337535437 372094 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean like eee kind of means o->o->o->o .. and eeee was like saying.. ->o->o->o->o < 1337535487 19989 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then www was like saying o<-o<-o<-o < 1337535794 378176 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if i included an extra character like p for pen toggle.. then it would become more useful < 1337535837 54144 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and start coming closer to being an esolang component < 1337536023 962077 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*e*e*e*, *e*s*w*, *e*s*e*, *e*n*e*, *e*e*n*, *e*e*s*, *e*n*se* < 1337536229 954156 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to make it a complete program with spacing: *e*e*e*,eee *e*s*w*,eee *e*s*e*,eee *e*n*e*,eee *e*e*n*,eee *e*e*s*,eee *e*n*se* < 1337536651 526656 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well mostly it was confusing that i have very little working memory < 1337536679 970545 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and presumably made some errors, i need east and west daily, but i still tend to confuse them :/ < 1337536810 125906 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337536840 778688 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: well it helps in australia.. we have this state called western australia which might be about the same size as scandinavia < 1337536847 354399 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know for sure < 1337536862 775864 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we also have a state called south australia < 1337536870 513821 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a territory named northern territory < 1337536891 553853 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we have western and eastern finland, it doesn't help. < 1337536913 672085 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but western australia has nothing in it.. it's essentially a giant desert < 1337536925 761942 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still takes a second or so to check which is which unless i've used them in the last 10 minutes, and if i forget to check, occasionally they are the wrong way around. < 1337536935 783480 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often refer to it to work out which is which < 1337536953 621250 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use russia and usa < 1337536956 569224 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are pretty big too < 1337537059 853472 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway area: 385,252 km^2 .. western australia area: 2,645,615 km^2 < 1337537076 82111 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why i started with norway < 1337537253 21655 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah.. clearly easily dwarfs it < 1337537268 706329 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :giant giant state full of little more than desert < 1337537359 220680 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose the idea is that since up doesn't change much < 1337537387 813354 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but east and west (of us) are always changing < 1337537469 505257 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then crazy shigeru miyamoto decides his characters should leap between spheres < 1337537491 699463 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh that crazy guy < 1337537514 389451 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-147-71.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337537534 810292 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have known of paintfuck.. its kind of disturbing i think about tetris pieces in paintfuck terms < 1337537628 167464 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-217.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337537756 277642 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who highlighted me sometime during the past 5 days? < 1337537794 161536 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill find out < 1337537883 233379 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-05-19 18:51:57: `quote 18:52:06: 831) they call finnish human-readable? < 1337537927 857728 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2012-05-18 02:22:30: 785) what a world it would be if you could actually *steal* code so that the other project has to rewrite it or infiltrate your project to steal it back < 1337537955 325292 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao.. too many quotes to list < 1337538408 768277 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language were you talking about? < 1337539625 159255 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-224-51.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337540047 381571 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337540067 279081 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-147-71.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337540346 522261 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337541428 544023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337542305 230387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337543073 10293 :mathias__!~mathias@drsd-4db3d38e.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337543208 918792 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337543271 560122 :mathias__!~mathias@drsd-4db3d38e.pool.mediaWays.net PART #esoteric :"Ex-Chat" < 1337543640 426762 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337543720 895375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337543746 670685 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337544211 647244 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :This just in: Americans place kangaroos in the alps to avoid awkwardness from poor country name recollection | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337544703 117757 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: paintfuck < 1337544811 32021 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1337544863 709615 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: paintfuck, rather < 1337544968 242114 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry. that message will be in my awaylog when I get to check it in aproximately 16 hours < 1337545244 437788 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: is that an automated message? < 1337545253 555449 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ni < 1337545254 755364 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably couldn've looked at the timestemps < 1337545271 599641 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1337545300 891371 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :could've < 1337545560 311162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337545700 260675 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1337545708 193033 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ponders a bit and a bit < 1337545725 428135 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if 3d is projection from 3d space onto 2d space < 1337545734 439958 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1337545767 557737 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what kind of space that some line art and pixel art projects from < 1337545818 877605 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it all from 3d < 1337545861 683664 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cell shading seems to think 3d is the answer < 1337547467 703163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337547731 952367 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337547816 939 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337547888 399107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337547907 875101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1337547915 513338 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what a coincidence i just woke up < 1337547928 246462 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like seconds ago < 1337547940 186038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy morning < 1337547951 742776 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :verily < 1337547969 686729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: sometimes i say something to people on the exact same second they say something to me after 30 minutes plus of silence < 1337547974 753449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION telepathic < 1337547990 251740 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens < 1337548016 524210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:37:17: -!- Gregor changed the topic of #esoteric to: not Tom Morow's topic | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337548019 872816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: dude < 1337548023 793124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a whole plan and everything < 1337548026 9254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you broke it! < 1337548132 5293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow dtsund casts meph constantly < 1337548143 85928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet light reversed the meph nerf too < 1337548166 781338 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget when it was added < 1337548175 897993 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think meph was nerfed multiple times < 1337548228 877579 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : we had a whole plan and everything you broke it! // 's what I do. < 1337548248 145261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: huh Enchanter got renamed to Sorcerer in light < 1337548257 707434 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337548266 713648 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :light's ench split is a bit different than crawl's < 1337548295 39872 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think instead of charm/hex it did enchantments/sorcery and sorcery also includes venom magic? < 1337548311 638483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not quite renamed, they merged the schools differently < 1337548315 768044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not quite an identical role < 1337548325 580379 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for normal crawl eronarn wants to replace venom magic with alchemy which would also steal some of tmut's spells < 1337548490 174914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict crawl light started out by making the game worse by massively un-nerfing everything < 1337548513 300253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/dtsund/dtsund-crawl-mod/commit/f71b56fc71d2161b418bcd1cb93691ba6596b114 this is good though < 1337548571 349323 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember reading the original crawl light announcement and thinking it was silly but then i talked to dtsund and changed my mind. i forget what the original announcement had in it though < 1337548628 357154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :were mountain dwarves removed before they started it. i have this sneaking suspicion he likes mountain dwarves < 1337548645 83355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i really really hate stereotypical tolkein/d&d-style fantasy) < 1337548651 303109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only dwarf fortress can get away with that) < 1337548673 694622 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know who else really hates tolkein/d&d-style fantasy? < 1337548674 581635 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpeg < 1337548675 928830 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(me too) < 1337548689 853720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken clock; twice a day < 1337548719 542593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tolkien oops < 1337548723 586258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for copying my typo monqy < 1337548728 47108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one was accidental!!! < 1337548729 221615 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to spell either < 1337548744 277709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to know how to spell < 1337548748 162467 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just copied your spelling on the assumption that it was either correct or a splendid typo < 1337548779 391969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think dtsund has been asked about removing one of mi/md and said he might do it?? i forget the exact conversation that went down < 1337548812 856729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: check #crawllight the joke is < 1337548814 785958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got pinged anyway < 1337549011 183030 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-224-51.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337549572 357360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "im assist you" < 1337549596 750818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe you can open the second pandoora after all!!! < 1337549605 514508 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe!! < 1337549644 434891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you just missed a great bug in #CrawlLight < 1337549654 650701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it? < 1337549670 531653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1337549677 574261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:29 hahahahaha < 1337549677 719783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:29 if(you.dactions[i] == DACT_SEAL_PANDOORA) < 1337549677 737972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:29 lua_pushboolean(ls, true); < 1337549679 184894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:29 return 1; < 1337549684 653969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...] < 1337549688 504856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:30 this isn't python :) < 1337549805 613084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh hey < 1337549807 403681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# overall difficulty level when opened. Behind the door is a scroll of < 1337549807 547600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# acquirement, which can be read or given to an Abyss portal later for a shot < 1337549807 689567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# at the key to Hell. < 1337549836 573381 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you sure that's a bug and not just intentionally obfuscated? < 1337549842 17058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's a bug < 1337549869 90218 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok, boring < 1337549882 894127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise anyone actually made errors like that < 1337549890 646706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the if (1 == x) stuff < 1337549897 664680 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny spelling of PANDOOORA is perhaps funnier < 1337549914 556455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*OO < 1337549922 500561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's intentional; the Pandooras are doors < 1337549942 491248 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, that's clever < 1337549983 22484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1337549985 628593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very good flavour < 1337550042 229734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh wow i just looked up what tukimsa is < 1337550043 604568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tukimas < 1337550045 231761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s < 1337550129 597016 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of wonder why it's only testing a single DACT in an if (instead of e.g. a switch), and why it's working on dactions[i] (it's in a loop that looks for pandoooras?) < 1337550150 16219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes, it's in a loop to check whether the pandoora was opened or not < 1337550493 239007 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337550529 880292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder where the movement energy code is. < 1337550737 282329 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently undoing energy randomisation is actually implemented in mcrawl so you could look there < 1337550740 287115 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337550760 719064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is considering implementing squarelos & unrandomised movement energy for crawl-light. < 1337550764 819084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thanks, I will. < 1337550788 201721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reid Barton pushed 2448 commits to ~rwbarton/crawl/mcrawl:mcrawl. View diff < 1337550793 401217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be difficult < 1337550822 532352 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably merging master in < 1337550835 656869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337550846 363831 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could pull mcrawl's master and mcrawl and diff them idk < 1337550874 170381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I was going to < 1337550914 377776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:54 crawl-light: Derrick Sund cl-trunk * rc298457 / crawl-ref/source/monster.cc : Unrandomize monster energy loss. - http://git.io/_YD1zA < 1337550915 540704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oops" < 1337550918 975403 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337551277 577263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anybody actually understand Cont? (self.haskell) < 1337551277 718231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :submitted 52 minutes ago by drb226 < 1337551401 370740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely wonders how many votes you'd get for answering "no" < 1337551437 313279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was considering being a smug jerk and linking to my really long explanation of Cont. < 1337551438 842484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I didn't. < 1337551520 369727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's your q < 1337551653 665834 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1337551703 537813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:03 You want I should try to repair it in some way? < 1337551703 686179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:04 I think monqy was hoping it could be < 1337551703 704412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:04 but you'd have to ask him < 1337551709 498703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereby q i meant cue < 1337551789 664746 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337551793 14330 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337551874 413952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw I was trying to figure out what the Euclidean equivalent of circlelos is... i.e. assuming Chebyshev distance, Crawl's circlelos is shorter on the diagonals than it should be < 1337551892 72750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Crawl's los would be a diamond were it in Euclidean space < 1337551893 590229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure < 1337551910 702364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably didn't make any sense < 1337551910 740804 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1337551917 448770 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it didn't :( < 1337551923 472501 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia sez: Did you know ... that The Lego Group produced 381 million tires (example pictured) in 2011, making it the largest tire manufacturer in the world? < 1337551933 496453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wh;at < 1337551935 867277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well < 1337551942 259716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: oh it'll be `a different lego' < 1337551948 383912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok so < 1337551955 342180 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope. < 1337551960 660446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Euclidean space : circle LOS :: Chebyshev space : square LOS < 1337551961 532821 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Lego tires. < 1337551969 666533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Chebyshev space : circle LOS :: Euclidean space : ? < 1337551999 731076 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa < 1337552003 798085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. if you have a transformation Chebyshev square LOS --> Euclidean circle LOS < 1337552004 542852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1337552009 882650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chebyshev circle LOS --> Euclidean ? LOS < 1337552012 136859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ? = diamond < 1337552013 434880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure < 1337552027 489791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to get an intuition for what circle LOS actually does to your LOS < 1337552057 955065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337552078 345730 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337552124 40071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you know what the best aprt is < 1337552125 942112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*part is < 1337552128 625325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get to do hive < 1337552129 86788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all < 1337552129 379469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :over < 1337552130 600352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1337552160 525234 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337552194 403867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the other best part is that you're going to have a hell of a time finding tukima's with hard mode's curtailed item generation < 1337552218 83150 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337552255 585825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but you can get it from sif right < 1337552259 730750 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337552263 173982 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only reason i'm sif < 1337552312 341156 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i had found tukimas in the first pandoora then i would have either gone some other god or tso right from the start < 1337552329 686505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trog < 1337552330 325284 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but i didnt found) < 1337552590 958361 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337552814 904729 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337553149 991598 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337553375 856282 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oi50.tinypic.com/muzm9y.jpg < 1337553426 194966 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, what is the topic? Some game? < 1337553451 135344 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except that only makes sense for the last few lines??) < 1337553451 516751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl Light < 1337553454 230610 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337553459 616800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a fork of Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup) < 1337553463 92756 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1337553468 304114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :((a continuation of Linley's Dungeon Crawl)) < 1337553469 727987 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it better or worse? < 1337553475 970020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :better in some ways; worse than others < 1337553482 41716 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337553482 372452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly less annoying < 1337553486 682971 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1337553492 409218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it removes hunger and identification and curses) < 1337553497 94234 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got around to playing any version of crawl < 1337553511 121978 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, hunger is an integral part of the genre! < 1337553515 110186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337553521 589758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have clearly never played crawl < 1337553526 853866 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not crawl no < 1337553545 879742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we're going to judge all roguelikes by rogue then games aren't allowed to have upstairs either < 1337553546 333580 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337553552 734223 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a drawing i made just now, with some relation to brainfuck: http://oi50.tinypic.com/muzm9y.jpg < 1337553569 148879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway in crawl hunger mostly serves to just annoy you < 1337553571 583949 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played angband (or was it zangband? well, some angband version anyway), a tiny bit of ADOM (don't remember much details), nethack, slash'EM < 1337553575 332420 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fair enough < 1337553583 19003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really have any effect on the game except sometimes you have to kill something once in a while < 1337553596 51599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is pretty easy, since monsters regenerate) < 1337553601 903626 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1337553613 758710 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that isn't like hunger in nethack then < 1337553622 664188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hunger in nethack is pretty crappy too < 1337553623 836723 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it is a real threat, especially at low level < 1337553644 188956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl's id game is also really boring < 1337553651 29012 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :id game? < 1337553654 351287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :identification game < 1337553656 752401 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337553658 128930 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1337553660 735556 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how so? < 1337553661 312710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read iding scrolls is trivial to make safe; quaff iding potions is a bad idea < 1337553671 182959 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1337553678 646794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some jewellery use-ids < 1337553680 16213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some doesn't < 1337553685 304456 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about iding gems? < 1337553689 827784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you just read all scrolls you come across, and use scrolls of identify on potions and jewellery that doesn't use-id < 1337553692 619165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there are no gems < 1337553697 961768 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay < 1337553713 99706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl's cursing is also really boring, it just means you can't unwield/take off/etc. the item < 1337553728 623655 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well nethack has a bit of variation there < 1337553734 698693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only time it's ever really a problem is when you curse your weapon and it's blunt < 1337553739 39424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which stops you chopping corpses < 1337553741 751735 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a bit of variation, especially cursed scrolls and potions and so on < 1337553744 161510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you starve or waste your permafood < 1337553850 210541 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday I was in Victoria < 1337553850 339723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337553855 853015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also played Dungeons&Dragons game < 1337553860 987617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a coincidence! I wasn't. < 1337553864 379620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages < 1337553864 530707 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti said 27d 6h 24m 36s ago: Myhell script gopher client: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28915864/shgopher < 1337553864 648186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 1d 7h 52m 58s ago: Thoughts on Prelude.Generalize: Data.Semigroups rather than Data.Monoid, perhaps? (maybe) < 1337553969 159537 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe you are the one i am showing this to! http://oi50.tinypic.com/muzm9y.jpg < 1337553987 565345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have plan for Dungeons&Dragons game, somehow trick the chancellor into a trap, see if there is any beholder as a member of the wizard guild, save the king, barter for services and scrolls due to lack of money..... < 1337553996 974781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chancellor < 1337554003 871971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait that's a real word < 1337554035 381309 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember one game of nethack where by chance I ended up with a load of gain level potions (20 or so). So I cursed them and used them to quickly ascend after I got the amulet. < 1337554070 900560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: good thing you're not DeathOnAStick < 1337554078 374971 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm? < 1337554092 314587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: < 1337554092 699273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1337554094 342623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DeathOnAStick is a NetHack player. He/she is famous in the NetHack community for their year-and-a-half-long game on nethack.alt.org, from 2004-04-17 to 2005-11-27. They spent much of this time arduously polypiling rocks into gems and collecting pet giants to carry the abundant bags of gems for them. < 1337554094 491346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After killing the Wizard of Yendor on dungeon level 1, they drank a potion of gain level found on its corpse. It was cursed, as it turned out. < 1337554096 227515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Upon reaching the Plane of Earth, they desperately checked their inventory, and indeed they were carrying no gems. At this point, they went idle for 38 seconds. A few of their entourage of giants had been close enough to be dragged into the Planes with them, but they were either killed off or left behind at the inter-plane portals. Ultimately, the only gems DeathOnAStick had at their ascension were 2 dilithium crystals. < 1337554098 216149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1337554112 485022 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337554115 741556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by arduously < 1337554116 459117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they mean < 1337554124 174704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whole dungeon levels filled with gems < 1337554126 227867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1337554129 117139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't use colours < 1337554129 393041 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that sucks < 1337554129 778534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or travel < 1337554132 412666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or DES/IBMgraphics < 1337554137 958568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even shift+direction < 1337554147 370306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the good ending is [[He/she tried again years later, ascending after 405 hours on August 16, 2010 with over 8,000 gems.]] < 1337554150 370018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i watched it as it happened < 1337554150 993799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1337554151 827771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so tedious < 1337554158 340976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :half the time was spend shoving the giants around < 1337554161 678841 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337554180 165658 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I would never be able to bring myself to do that < 1337554185 731453 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even once < 1337554222 203066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have proof that the demon has something to do with them, I borrowed one of the false guard's dagger and give it back, now I learned the demon is 2200 years old and the guard is also evil (human), the king's bed was filled with a magic dummy, and I believe the chancellor is bad person too < 1337554235 511000 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Speaking of tedious things, who in their right mind plays EVE Online...) < 1337554240 95941 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337554253 802323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eve is something you read about after the fact, not actually participate in < 1337554260 358705 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1337554260 707197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would read an eve newspaper < 1337554265 367947 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly < 1337554275 206332 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :the politics and so on can be quite interesting. < 1337554284 702688 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't imagine ever /playing/ it < 1337554307 419769 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me to be basically Spreadsheet: The Game < 1337554323 231904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair they say the same about dwarf fortress < 1337554356 755232 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I never done more than a couple of calculations for df really, and that was when invading hell. < 1337554381 80686 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or do you mean more generally? Then: sure, yeah) < 1337554391 148813 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm always trying to promote participation < 1337554408 345914 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, in specific or in general? < 1337554427 429206 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.... this is probably the reason i never finished a game < 1337554437 37439 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1337554444 929780 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and eventually i forgot how to program.. blah.. this isn't my hour < 1337554532 852170 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway.. here is how i think brainfuck would look as a game: http://oi50.tinypic.com/muzm9y.jpg < 1337554537 837793 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm anyway how did he get the gems into his inventory in the end? Because iirc you need your things to be in your inventory for it to count in the score? < 1337554666 685740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: bags < 1337554671 264325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: giants < 1337554679 525466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They spent much of this time arduously polypiling rocks into gems and collecting pet giants to carry the abundant bags of gems for them." < 1337554706 9086 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well like.. a lot of games have an attack button... i think that almost prevents players really participating in the attack.. this is what appeals to me most about motion controls < 1337554709 381499 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes quite, but do what they carry count in the score? Or do you have to get them into your own inventory at the very last step? < 1337554735 662266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you quaff mut < 1337554749 131245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I presume what they carry counts < 1337554756 759286 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm okay < 1337554767 107367 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno how i got thos < 1337554773 546428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i didn't see them < 1337554785 643187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were they? < 1337554797 76175 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, which system are you talking about? From what I heard some of them are pretty bad < 1337554802 128991 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the kinect < 1337554807 32110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that last one < 1337554809 881892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the -10% hp < 1337554842 353006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, are you going to enchant that gsc or are you waiting for something else?) < 1337554845 801746 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you're right.... but the idea at least behind motion controls is good. instead of just hitting a button and letting the avatar have all the fun.. even though the execution isn't great < 1337554878 521617 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, you can have more advanced combat with a mouse and keyboard too < 1337554910 80264 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwop lets you participate in running more than just holding the right arrow.. but it's intentionally difficult < 1337554914 281084 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, like Mount & Blade does. Where you have to attack and parry with different strength in different direction < 1337554938 932265 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :never played it, watched some videos though, seems fun < 1337554972 631599 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not actually fun.. its painful.. < 1337554988 436336 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you tried that game? < 1337554994 5060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwop is great < 1337554998 505959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not as good as that other one < 1337555000 851724 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i meant qwop < 1337555008 747459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :girp < 1337555016 479185 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay, I was talking about the example I gave < 1337555024 825039 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway qwop is absurd yeah < 1337555033 930475 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, girp? < 1337555073 472432 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that other one. < 1337555075 715094 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm will check that out when I'm on a computer with flash < 1337555080 753327 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't do much atm < 1337555081 960131 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as annoying as they are, i gotta give qwop and girp credit that tey encourage active participation < 1337555096 172748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's... an unpleasant experience. < 1337555111 122681 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sure, but I'm sure I can stand 20 seconds or so of it :P < 1337555128 895733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: But it's the only game that has managed to get thousands of people to dig their fingers into keys like their life depended on it. < 1337555131 563704 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, I'm not sure that is needed in all games. RTS manage just fine without it for example. < 1337555155 692018 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, heh. < 1337555164 722020 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive never used the word participation before about games.. so im throwing it about < 1337555174 208090 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you have to hold on to something or what? < 1337555230 967092 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which: shadow of colossus. Awesome game. Played a bit of it recently at a friend's place. Pity it is PS2/PS3 exclusive. < 1337555240 11793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. < 1337555254 81428 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in reply to which line? < 1337555280 242004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that was a question. < 1337555283 650067 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337555354 214918 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337555358 886429 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, you should totally play Shadow of Colossus some time. Awesome game. I mean, everything is just awesome. Can't think of a single complaint about it. < 1337555436 956380 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should play shadow of the colossus some time. i hear it's an awesome game. < 1337555441 996492 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I have a computer with flash next to me now < 1337555453 406794 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i have ideas about games using rube goldberg machines to build weapons in a game. < 1337555455 125399 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what the fuck... those girp key bindings look weird < 1337555472 607561 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that even possible with the "use the mouse rather than ctrl" variant < 1337555499 305266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably isn't. < 1337555501 783782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use shift. < 1337555502 746916 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337555530 857226 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foddy is a sadistic bastard, so i'm sure it won't be easy whatever control scheme you use < 1337555550 764656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The terrible part is that the layout of the cliff is different to the keyboard layout. < 1337555553 372147 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have grown to like him < 1337555553 895468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you constantly let go of the wrong keys. < 1337555632 629775 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: The terrible part is that the layout of the cliff is different to the keyboard layout. // quite intentionally so, of course. < 1337555634 517864 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that isn't causing such a big problem really, for me it is the coordination that fails < 1337555649 999177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Of course. < 1337555653 835034 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt releasing shift and whatever key I want to move < 1337555661 569778 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, yeah I gave up < 1337555684 194104 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not as tricky as qwop, I actually got a few letters up in this game < 1337555697 67104 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i wonder what unimplemented games foddy has planned... < 1337555708 417299 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that weird game I saw recently... < 1337555714 264066 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Wheels < 1337555718 853804 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy? < 1337555722 333774 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1337555726 813455 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :really quite wtf < 1337555736 776142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqys-wheels < 1337555737 315290 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cr1tikal on youtube seems to review all the weird games < 1337555744 421304 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however his name is spelled < 1337555757 468399 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea who that is < 1337555765 466588 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ... i have strange tastes < 1337555772 985056 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did 2 attempted lets plays of oregon trail < 1337555805 596496 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the issue with that game now again? I don't remember < 1337555811 820029 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :his attempt at qwop is on wiki as a reference < 1337555813 991373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a headache :( < 1337555821 516863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: it shouldn't be < 1337555826 36332 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337555844 615139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hardly a reliable source < 1337555850 860800 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well because he apparently triggered the chain of events that made it famous < 1337555868 750233 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he reviewed it, and then a famous guy reviewed his review < 1337555890 296030 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-32.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337555912 294261 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy Wheels is pretty amusing. < 1337555931 339453 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like a Foddy game though, it's a legit game that's not stupidly difficult or hard to play. < 1337555947 538781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've forgotten how to use git :( < 1337555960 532071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Does the man page help? < 1337555964 692420 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://hg-git.github.com/ < 1337555971 720851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that'd be even worse, I'd have to use hg < 1337555994 24318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuugh this headache < 1337556035 797305 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, indeed < 1337556134 25094 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm aesthetically Happy Wheels is one of the uglier games I can think of < 1337556167 765818 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i would say try water incase of dehydration, try getting a good temperature, try sugary if your blood sugar is low, some weird woman suggested protein for headaches < 1337556169 631229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: b438b77489bdf288300303b2d1428781f964b8c3 < 1337556297 313237 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :visiting the toilet might also help < 1337556298 605452 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, reciting sequences of hexadecimal digits in a loud, droning monotone is good for headaches. < 1337556460 104687 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there is cvs-git... < 1337556477 325203 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at pinup girls may potentially help too, but this is probably a last resort < 1337556484 428206 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or git-cvs, that would be amazing too) < 1337556520 318379 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and if nothing else helps you could always use headache medicine. < 1337556529 462725 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually rather unhealthy though < 1337556539 846680 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol vorpal, you and your wild ideas... < 1337556551 987274 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, yeah, I like to think out of the box sometime < 1337556556 109864 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes* < 1337556699 208922 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need a distraction empty your wallet into a garbage bag full of rubbish, shake it about, and then try and retrieve all your items < 1337556707 129455 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1337556720 102527 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't done this (yet) < 1337556778 537722 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89167.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337556791 713068 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, you could also try dropping a needle into a haystack. Then stir it thoroughly and try to locate the needle again. < 1337556837 849768 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you just wouldn't have sufficient motivation < 1337556855 204461 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1337556859 36858 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the genius of my idea < 1337556874 173335 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"garbage bag full of rubbish" <-- what dialect has garbage bags full of rubbish ... < 1337556878 351811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh you're playing again! < 1337556881 864430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i miss < 1337556886 104103 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, what if it was a very valuable needle? Maybe a collector item, worth a few thousand euros to the right buyer? < 1337556894 658019 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :australian >.< < 1337556908 712394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you can open that < 1337556911 590806 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? Hm. elliott: Are they "garbage bags" in the UK? < 1337556924 207797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I doubt it. But I really don't know my own dialect any more, sorry. < 1337556930 190746 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh X-D < 1337556940 522297 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we certainly say rubbish bin < 1337556942 401338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The internet has mixed them all up for me. < 1337556950 205783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did i miss anything exciting :( < 1337556957 377370 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337556962 182111 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im confused too. < 1337556967 788882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did I miss anything unexciting < 1337556978 171474 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337556987 201735 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the bags are in Canada ... I know the bins and actual detritus are litter, which is not only an uncommon word but a different meaning in every other dialect. < 1337556988 390097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what unexciting things did i miss :'( < 1337556993 421594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Filled with milk, that's what. < 1337557012 754394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :osme slime critters and stuff < 1337557027 500561 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :osme slime? < 1337557033 441478 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337557033 609814 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange sort of slime < 1337557036 225582 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337557037 303502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he means some slime creatures hth < 1337557037 601801 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1337557041 900577 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I know < 1337557049 555744 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found the typo funny < 1337557059 343770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice hp < 1337557066 362878 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what hp is that? < 1337557068 825937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :low < 1337557071 74373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :35/135 < 1337557072 391315 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and where can I see this? < 1337557077 789714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet light.bitprayer.com, watch squarelos < 1337557093 658806 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :terminal settings? < 1337557097 654719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal < 1337557100 24967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :80x24 < 1337557103 600349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :black background (but crawl sets that itself) < 1337557104 134273 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337557122 546633 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well I'm going to have to use putty atm. Here goes nothing... < 1337557132 439681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no unicode or anything, it should work fine < 1337557148 799985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe you should train armour and dodindg etc < 1337557182 424655 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no use for aermour < 1337557196 547361 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how do I send mail to the player in this game? That is always fun in nethack < 1337557205 567121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the server can't do that yet < 1337557208 614476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the file location is messed up < 1337557208 751052 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :j < 1337557208 924026 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1337557212 781368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1337557215 125880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can press "m" to pretend < 1337557218 210885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to register an account though < 1337557232 359041 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1337557242 493231 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a secure version of it then? < 1337557247 772800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337557255 457789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just log in as squarelos < 1337557260 643331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1337557276 988051 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I don't know his password? < 1337557285 602679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's squarelos' password < 1337557295 615889 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be silly :P < 1337557302 676855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I know what it is < 1337557303 425474 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he quit too < 1337557316 928975 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be right back < 1337557323 755729 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I need to sleep < 1337557333 38736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you didn't even get to see the wonders of crawl's autoexplore! < 1337557343 252821 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to be up early tomorrow, expecting a call by 8:00 tomorrow < 1337557356 675342 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 8:00 or later, can't afford to miss it < 1337557366 155478 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(getting a job) < 1337557375 502269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of job starts at 8:00 < 1337557385 359486 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, most normal ones < 1337557401 163478 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :8:00-17:00 is the normal work hours < 1337557417 22177 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(anyway I won't start until a few weeks later) < 1337557454 812336 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you are in for a BIG surprise later :P < 1337557500 143469 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1337557640 47431 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god Vorpal < 1337557653 920601 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god what does he mean big surprise < 1337557825 700581 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he means the worst possible interpretation! < 1337558065 458234 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal is in hexham, gearing up for a home invasion < 1337558086 962427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the helsinki army will potect us < 1337558088 592084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :porotect < 1337558089 651949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotect < 1337558090 288976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :protect < 1337558257 279613 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably only protect people who say it right the first time < 1337558284 795306 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What abstracts the pattern foo [] = undefined; foo [x] = x; foo (x:x':xs) = foo (...x...x'...xs)? < 1337558290 604729 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy your invaded home(s) < 1337558515 388062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't get the pattern < 1337558559 872968 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :length (...x...x'...xs) == length xs - 1 < 1337558564 558604 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, length xs + 1 < 1337558575 514179 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a bit of a strange pattern. < 1337558611 92961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :length [x] is not x < 1337558645 144851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless x is 1 < 1337558645 725476 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1337558758 283916 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really [] is the wrong thing to use here anyway. < 1337558761 337090 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So never mind. :-) < 1337558806 993841 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337558900 850861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is (Free (Writer x)) like (Writer [x]) ? < 1337559377 208361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If in Haskell you have a random bit interface, then the class to generate random values of a type could be: class GenRandom x where { genRandom :: Free ((->) Bool) x; }; And now you can od this: instance (GenRandom x, GenRandom y) => GenRandom (x, y) where { genRandom = liftPair (genRandom, genRandom); }; < 1337559558 989932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance GenRandom Bool where { genRandom = Free Pure; }; instance GenRandom () where { genRandom = Pure (); }; < 1337559607 898532 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337559966 281427 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337559997 834571 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337560330 685111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ha ha ha < 1337560424 48897 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337560502 322911 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats so funny < 1337560553 354934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing the spel you cast every 3 turns is funy < 1337560563 530993 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1337560574 549076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is if i want it to be!!! < 1337560590 21915 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im plan to remove all sources of flight/lev in monqys-crawl < 1337560598 765035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that, science < 1337560603 853896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1337560639 647753 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because all reasons for it existing are awful and should be undone < 1337560662 262040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the reasons < 1337560690 719851 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well boosting swiftness was already removed in vanilla so that's not one of them < 1337560725 426090 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular levitation is awful because of the whole being flight but you have to wait for it to time out before you can interact with items thing < 1337560776 252491 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it has "interesting tactical uses" in few cases but normally if you're in an area with deep water or lava you maintain it, and if you don't have it, you don't go there < 1337560839 332473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah im fine with items being interactable all the time < 1337560847 286923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "merge 'em" < 1337560892 154688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what to do with water/lava since i don't quite want to do the full mcrawl with them but they're awful as-is too < 1337560966 557343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337561117 554865 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337561721 928168 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337561842 321932 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337561842 377660 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Changing host < 1337561842 377833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337562458 511924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337562659 550859 :Guest80090!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337562667 890468 :Guest80090!~elliott@95.149.229.194 NICK :elliott < 1337562669 614722 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Changing host < 1337562669 633108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337563238 460920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1337563244 961353 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhhelo < 1337563285 644051 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337563302 161540 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just finished this week’s electronics homework. < 1337563313 491755 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which week < 1337563361 397367 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this < 1337563395 32028 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many weeks containing today ! < 1337563415 663846 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whichever week it is in Massachusetts. < 1337563427 5641 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not helpful < 1337563447 419469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what week is it in california :( < 1337563490 885099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many weeks containing today ! < 1337563495 544097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which week do you mean < 1337563500 436768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one < 1337563502 761470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlep < 1337563520 428037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a week starting today, a week ending today, a week with today as the second day, < 1337563537 218482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no week with today as the eighth day because weeks do not have eight days < 1337563584 728757 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The deadline is in 2½ hours AFAIU. < 1337563592 362581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe some weeks do! < 1337563600 518695 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my weeks don't < 1337563618 565967 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Weeks don’t have eight days? Which planet are you on? < 1337563630 202454 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plauto < 1337563657 981711 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: you doing the MIT course? < 1337563666 585103 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah < 1337563679 843750 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i considered it < 1337563681 948115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the only planet ever founded by the ancient roman plato < 1337563704 791880 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It has been great. I’ve wanted to learn electronics since i was a kid. < 1337563710 131443 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: who was the ancient roman plato < 1337563737 171621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337563745 257348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i learned some electronics by reading the ARRL handbook and various websites. i find it is better to learn by doing. < 1337563771 818837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337563857 467741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the ancient roman plato was the founder of the planet plauto < 1337563901 602359 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks for the circularity. the real question is whether the ancient roman plato was a philosopher like plato was < 1337563911 855949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's plato < 1337563914 943940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the ancient roman? < 1337563940 137460 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i was referring to the greek philosopher, student of socrates < 1337563952 928075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop making people up < 1337563974 639491 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, who is going to inhabit your made-up planet if i don't? < 1337563999 163456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what is quintopia on about < 1337564078 459732 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what is elliott off about < 1337564121 575008 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :off about? < 1337564125 920386 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's dead on < 1337564130 217665 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the ancient roman plato < 1337564164 32880 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very dead and very on < 1337564196 691971 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elliott "ancient roman" also? < 1337564243 126401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh no your client puts a space after the < < 1337564248 596145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please fix, please fix, please fix < 1337564255 149930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hurts me more than anything < 1337564312 473981 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not going to fix it < 1337564325 851677 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually kind of like it?? < 1337564334 284671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564335 606590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1337564336 315062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1337564339 493751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do this to me < 1337564340 373107 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564341 564295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it < 1337564343 616967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1337564343 928057 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gojing to do it < 1337564344 377928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it\ < 1337564346 848459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564347 446098 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564348 477191 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564348 569750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't! < 1337564349 509799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564350 275135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1337564350 884865 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can < 1337564352 309339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it < 1337564354 368994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it now < 1337564356 48457 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :il never stop < 1337564359 883201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:39:10 < elliott> stop < 1337564360 226326 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:39:12 < elliott> fix it < 1337564360 244704 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:39:14 < elliott> fix it now < 1337564366 545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what client < 1337564369 906775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use < 1337564371 433561 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd bold the spaces but < 1337564374 395156 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant bold spaces < 1337564380 556185 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi < 1337564380 747995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me monqy < 1337564384 341536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT : < 1337564386 43237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just VERSION me < 1337564391 11832 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a jerk !!! < 1337564406 948048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337564411 933010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1337564412 910147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :version you < 1337564413 345639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1337564415 233440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my internet < 1337564415 969864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :died < 1337564417 926459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1337564419 925363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1337564421 928843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :connection dropped < 1337564426 891351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok < 1337564427 826935 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337564457 460177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/set show_nickmode_empty off < 1337564457 875267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1337564458 642679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1337564459 453854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me < 1337564478 30122 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t do it. < 1337564486 233325 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;m not going to do it < 1337564487 859291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just try it monqy < 1337564489 147302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1337564491 824542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pal < 1337564492 560637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1337564493 272584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend < 1337564500 518235 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not your buddy, pal! < 1337564502 66568 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your problem with the spaces < 1337564506 228430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1337564511 205335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're asymmetric wrt the > < 1337564511 710381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two < 1337564522 376360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < looks horribly disconnected from the nick itself, esp. as <> aren't really the greatest enclosers in the first place < 1337564525 684268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three < 1337564526 5507 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They’re symmetric wrt. the @, + < 1337564526 942556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hideous < 1337564529 411761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :four < 1337564531 887359 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes what ion said < 1337564535 487099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means that you break everyone else's awk scripts < 1337564541 229740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nobody's @ and + on freenode!!! < 1337564541 893993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also < 1337564544 956559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to align things like that < 1337564545 597351 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone else’s awk scripts suck. < 1337564546 66973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1337564546 111979 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :their awk scrips can go die < 1337564547 597477 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes they are < 1337564549 253939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be using right-aligned nicks < 1337564553 601164 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see @ and + all the time < 1337564554 438639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like xchat does < 1337564557 728705 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf crawl-dev < 1337564564 768442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't want that : don't put a space after the s but aligning the @s and non-@s < 1337564716 322530 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's consistent with @ and + etc < 1337564718 916833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no justifiable reason to "align" < 1337564721 241893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what matters to me < 1337564724 65442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when there's no alignment of the messages itself < 1337564725 543169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's inconsistent < 1337564726 999139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're terrible < 1337564728 97924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn it off now < 1337564733 172032 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!! < 1337564735 271730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337564745 321255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you have good opinions right < 1337564751 641028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "< nick> blah" is an abomination right < 1337564816 364022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: stop < 1337564825 234305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :every message you receive with that setting is a personal affront against me < 1337564844 570029 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:46:56 < elliott> monqy: stop < 1337564848 851551 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as u can see: i have not stoped < 1337565015 630838 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://heh.fi/tmp/mirc.png < 1337565031 606322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337565062 663563 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it also looks better on my client than eliots because the < and > are all dark grey and so is the timestamp < 1337565083 9090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337566110 421838 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1337566113 476436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :---- < 1337566113 685245 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08:30 h < 1337566116 610620 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08:33 19:08:30 h < 1337566118 982227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08:36 19:08:33 19:08:30 h < 1337566125 793505 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooo < 1337566133 853549 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything looks weird < 1337566142 759907 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ma050833 monqy 19:08:30 h < 1337566147 821810 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will take some "getting used to" < 1337566162 735691 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t succumb to eliot’s whims! < 1337566193 340014 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he finally got me with `addquote < 1337566242 741132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vision of a terrifying world: < 1337566244 174442 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337566248 455501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ what would you ever need petrol for < oklofok> newsflash: it doesn't actually taste that good < 1337566270 937801 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no what if you messed up something importante < 1337566272 159872 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :428) < ais523> the thing about modern semiconductor design is, 0s are more powerful as 1s < 1337566286 337345 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :621) < fizzie> Spacegoat is the network-operations-optimized-for-latency-of-minutes-or-hours-due-to-light-speed-limits variant of scapegoat, to be used when you need to check out some code from the Mars colony. < fizzie> (I'm pretty sure we'll have established a Mars colony by the time scapegoat rolls out.) < 1337566286 671672 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :486) < pikhq> I actually had a Neopets account. I later gained a second digit in my age. < 1337566286 767030 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :147) < fungot> pikhq: it was fragrant with the scent of abomination. hear a speech declaring a holy war, is the man insane? some idiot missionary gets himself killed, some man writes some gibberish about the shape of a dragon, wonse?" < 1337566297 661667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1337566300 256097 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1337566301 275480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "messing fixed" < 1337566316 218890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 428 or 390 < 1337566349 996425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 428 < 1337566353 190606 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* the thing about modern semiconductor design is, 0s are more powerful as 1s < 1337566358 80056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 sorry get out of the ay bug im writing an important message < 1337566358 212330 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337566362 205411 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im actually starting to be bothered by the lack of spaces after s with {}s "it'll burn in a different way" < 1337566407 499094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: imo just set them to background colour < 1337566407 838045 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"< nick>"s are the devil. < 1337566410 419991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs to see the <>s < 1337566410 594035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll just use nospaces until i get used to it < 1337566423 914668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you hate coloured nicks too < 1337566424 259459 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they're almost the background colour < 1337566428 526602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like where the nicks are coloured based on their text < 1337566430 243596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that upsets me < 1337566436 521416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont mind if other people use it < 1337566437 381700 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Are you calling me an IRC racist. :-( < 1337566439 786164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it upsets me < 1337566476 933182 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't be racist, I use so much Unicode! < 1337566495 939465 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of it even non-ASCII Unicode. < 1337566503 627879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is any of it big endian < 1337566553 267681 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My IRC client doesn't support that. :-( < 1337566583 213737 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Really, something in the IRC->me translation is messing up non-BMP Unicode characters.) < 1337566652 792834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't like that then change it < 1337566723 252404 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Are you racist too? < 1337566755 215650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try not to be, but since I use language it makes me a little bit racist anyways < 1337566776 149280 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1337566776 522336 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1337566779 560174 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style discworld < 1337566779 979461 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: discworld (a subset of Terry Pratchett's Discworld books) < 1337566795 160307 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < sourbot_ :'( < 1337566796 192410 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ' ah?' said nanny. " it's you, son. you're too skinny. i've seen these little stones around, too. < 1337566846 794478 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1337566847 434307 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1337566849 558046 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1337566850 570392 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's a good question for the plt mailing list. there the only ones that that could be a fnord to run the < 1337566974 414359 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1337566975 379548 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this is all related to sigsegv?) if you didn't operate on text representations and particular character sets? < 1337566978 580366 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1337566979 724963 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so i was wondering why all my applications had become slow on old computers that use dimms? my taskbar just moved to our nation's grand capital, and the < 1337566998 539686 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my taskbar just moved to our nation's grand capital, and the < 1337567062 91100 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You would enjoy #haskell currently. < 1337567065 547269 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:21 < lambdabot> Einskell says: Make everything as monad as possible, but not monadder. < 1337567069 54547 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:23 < JoeyA> Monad monad monad monad monad monad. < 1337567071 992574 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And such. < 1337567149 926019 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1337567173 237904 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet some of these IOCCC entries would be more comprehensible after a run through a C compiler and decompiler < 1337567196 232441 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet this would be a lot more useful than the standard source-level prettifiers < 1337567203 414106 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which decompilers suck the least? < 1337567213 596968 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard source-level prettifier probably wouldn't be *that* bad. < 1337567235 782101 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indent(1) makes a total hash of most of them < 1337567246 92019 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guidelines basically say that if indent makes your code look ok, don't bother submitting < 1337567268 46591 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of something smarter than indent(1). < 1337567276 350915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you seen Gregor's? < 1337567278 929809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, try astyle, perhaps < 1337567291 360385 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should look at LLVM output from clang < 1337567291 705358 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. renaming variables, expanding #defines < 1337567296 187563 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337567306 585460 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, that usually doesn't help too much either < 1337567313 898352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indent just chokes on a lot of perfectly ok code IME < 1337567336 77646 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really want stuff like dead code elimination and reordering big chains of , and ?: operators into saner sequential/conditional control flow < 1337567343 573331 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I think a pass through a proper compiler might help < 1337567348 943358 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IME is Finnish for SUCK. < 1337567361 55539 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1337567374 723249 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps just looking at the disassembled output would be enough. < 1337567393 175460 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i'm looking at now (2001/herrmann2) in particular has a *ton* of dead code < 1337567409 406910 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more specifically, side-effect-free expressions to the left of , < 1337567416 515429 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337567426 28974 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it also depends on whether you just want to understand how the program works, or also how it's obfuscated < 1337567449 238825 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i saw gregor's entry < 1337567451 610040 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff < 1337567456 853431 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't dig into it yet < 1337567505 428187 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how in JavaScript (1,foo) can be a different value from (foo). < 1337567509 857125 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1337567524 573635 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I don't *really* like it. < 1337567533 82625 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1337567535 154752 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf++ < 1337567558 508839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so cool I saw Gregor's entry BEFORE IT WAS SUBMITTED. < 1337567573 453436 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://perfectionkills.com/global-eval-what-are-the-options/ < 1337567713 465377 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, this explains a JS annoyance of mine, actually. < 1337567726 597438 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't say var foo = console.log. < 1337567745 692132 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Previously I was just using var foo = function(x) { console.log(x); } < 1337567757 160087 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess you can var foo = console.log.bind(console). < 1337567759 991746 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Or something. < 1337567795 354783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's correct < 1337567799 222925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bind one, that is < 1337567805 192954 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1337567834 766886 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not so much "this explains" as "I just thought about what could actually be causing it and came to this conclusion". < 1337567907 226025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO question: "Can Haskell pretend to be a database, and if so, how?" < 1337567949 135144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by that? < 1337567971 409009 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln -s /usr/bin/ghc /usr/bin/mysql < 1337567989 707221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hmm, what's that "two planes at once" message < 1337567999 795764 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phase shift < 1337568004 94617 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's free evasion < 1337568005 814274 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot i had it < 1337568009 883518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Can Haskell pretend to be a database" This question does not seem to even make sense????? < 1337568022 985335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: indeed < 1337568058 610718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, Famicompo Mini 8 is now finished and available for download. < 1337568073 728000 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free evasion a = a | evasion (free evasion a) < 1337568090 483663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you mean Free < 1337568103 664133 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My language is case insensitive. < 1337568159 707482 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know Noël Coward was born in the 19th century? < 1337568179 438704 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1337568179 581151 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :synx says: webdev is like doing one of those stupid little kids toys where you fit the circle block into the circle hole < 1337568192 26149 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1337568226 249932 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : fare evasion? < 1337568281 154182 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know that different kinds of citrus tree can be easily grafted onto each other? < 1337568289 855041 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem with fare evasion is that it's unfare. < 1337568296 904940 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have a single tree which grows oranges on some branches, lemons on others, limes on others < 1337568316 63976 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes! Well, I knew it about some specific cases, at least. < 1337568318 993797 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is industrially important too < 1337568353 949734 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause you can graft a branch which grows the kind of fruit you want onto a tree that's of a variety that's better at being a tree < 1337568388 348714 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't this how most oranges are grown, or something? < 1337568399 8967 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard as much < 1337568418 336140 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seedless oranges, I suppose. < 1337568429 873489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the GenRandom I have written for the random generators or is there a better way? < 1337568500 231799 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish humans could be grafted. < 1337568513 399031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onto trees or onto humans? < 1337568514 529772 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least they can be grifted < 1337568518 955373 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337568518 993682 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337568518 993811 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337568559 531333 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ontohu mans. < 1337568563 951618 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337568988 789683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Famicompo mini vol.8 has some multi-track files, unlike the others. < 1337569018 180819 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337569382 243921 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, Linux now uses the term "x32". < 1337569394 588172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1337569397 32785 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly it uses it for something different from "32-bit x86". < 1337569399 484614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337569400 858715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's X32 < 1337569405 176498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally different < 1337569413 606906 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1337569424 158703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :capital x < 1337569425 495857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not abominable < 1337569427 949636 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember the bit about my language being case-insensitive? < 1337569478 357127 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reMEMBeR thE bIT aBoUt my LanGuAgE bEINg casE-iNseNSitIVe? < 1337569495 162950 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow reMEmbEr THE BIT abOut mY LAngUAGe being caSE-InSeNsItive? < 1337569495 666344 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2r3e4M5E6m7b8E9r2 3T4H5E6 7B8I9T2 3a4b5O6u7t8 9m2Y3 4L5A6n7g8U9A2G3e4 5b6e7i8n9g2 3c4a5S6E7-8I9n2S3e4N5s6I7t8i9v2e3? < 1337569693 510277 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X32_ABI < 1337569785 593247 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah x32 ABI is in Linux 3.4 < 1337569857 646742 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :32-bit pointers in native x86-64 long mode < 1337569919 241968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i'm arguing this badly :( < 1337569933 89308 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: arguing what :( < 1337569977 150311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk is not on, a few days ago I was asking about fmap lower . lower . duplicate = duplicate . lower and said it doesn't work for (Density []) but actually [] is not even a comonad, it lacks extract and doesn't follow the law duplicate . duplicate = fmap duplicate . duplicate < 1337570033 623352 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That depends on your definition of duplicate! < 1337570070 733819 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/category-extras/0.53.5/doc/html/Control-Comonad-Density.html , the argument to Density just needs to be a functor. < 1337570076 692941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the fmap lower . lower . duplicate = duplicate . lower does seem to work with actually comonads and seems to be the law for homomorphism < 1337570129 158003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Actually the argument to Density can be anything; it does not even have to be a functor. But Density is also a comonad transformer, and Codensity is also a monad transformer even though the argument to Codensity can also be anything. < 1337570230 374095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why did you argue for the bad thing :( < 1337570239 468967 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1337570244 639677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple at a time < 1337570270 178771 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the extend to which i argued for it is saying one at a time would be ridiculous < 1337570276 271334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just imagine how ridiculous it would be < 1337570277 649225 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :least common multiple at a time < 1337570286 123219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it wouldn't! < 1337570291 139518 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would < 1337570297 5703 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf v5 < 1337570304 822832 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be the most ridiculousest < 1337570340 797116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How do you mean, depends on your definition of duplicate? What are you saying depends on that? Only certain definitions are correct to follow the comonad laws (which are just dual to the monad laws) < 1337570401 493412 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: According to you, none of them follow the comonad laws. :-) < 1337570414 345863 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you didn't give a definition of duplicate, so how can you say that it doesn't follow the law? < 1337570440 298934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the proper way to handle it is not having upstairs. i'm gone for a while so have fun w/ yr argument "ha ha" < 1337570512 728105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: None of what follow the comonad laws? duplicate . duplicate = fmap duplicate . duplicate is mentioned in the documentation < 1337570545 105500 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said "[] is not even a comonad, it lacks extract and doesn't follow the law duplicate . duplicate = fmap duplicate . duplicate" < 1337570548 42124 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's duplicate? < 1337570559 335677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :duplicate is the dual to join < 1337570582 293948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad have return and join, comonad have extract dual to return and duplicate dual to join < 1337570582 865900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: shachaf is asking what definition of duplicate you are using for []. < 1337570599 90229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using the one that comes with it. < 1337570617 228931 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just said [] isn't a comonad. < 1337570622 169814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since there is no extract for [] it is not a comonad anyways so it doesn't count < 1337570623 317153 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does duplicate come from? < 1337570623 530923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what one < 1337570632 113829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1337570636 730287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: duplicate _is_ defined for [] in the comonad package < 1337570639 936697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extend is a different class < 1337570645 652456 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is? < 1337570647 234761 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1337570651 579601 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's silly. < 1337570764 776776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The law duplicate . duplicate = fmap duplicate . duplicate is mentioned for Comonad, not Extend, but ComonadTrans class method lower is with something having Extend class, not Comonad. < 1337570805 934325 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cowmonad < 1337571142 548359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is fmap lower . lower . duplicate = duplicate . lower supposed to be the law for homomorphism? < 1337571328 298885 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337574091 151684 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337575346 587679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have five days to figure out part of the strategy for the situation in Dungeons&Dragons game, and I have some ideas. I may use Correspond spell to call the chancellor, but he will probably be able to recognize me and I do not know what things to say. I try to lead him into a trap. In case he comes and then tries to hide, I have already considered that and know what to do about that. < 1337575494 437025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may need one or two scrolls of Locate Creature (I already have Locate Object). < 1337577929 58657 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elliott it was still hideous even then!" evil < 1337577939 500667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: waht < 1337578050 164879 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _thought_ you said that you have used monospaced font on irc and it was still hideous < 1337578059 330661 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess that would've been too silly to be true < 1337578126 22704 :ellisonch!~celliso2@76.199.1.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337578132 875181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < foo> that was hideous < 1337578222 513862 :ellisonch!~celliso2@76.199.1.32 QUIT :Client Quit < 1337579066 529243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then don't use < foo> if you dislike it < 1337579123 445170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is other people using it < 1337579168 958814 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is < foo>? < 1337579205 249862 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :An esoteric programming language, of course. < 1337579248 328934 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, < foo> as in how some client shows nicks on IRC? < 1337579250 495244 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume? < 1337579252 185341 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337579254 39172 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that space is annoying? < 1337579284 564580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337579299 626011 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/%3C%20foo%3E < 1337579366 39946 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which client? < 1337579373 228349 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, too bad that link doesn't work < 1337579387 543634 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Foo exists < 1337579424 998773 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Foo%20exists < 1337579548 119572 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1337579772 509668 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use < nick> but i try to delete the space when copypasta into channels < 1337579848 30060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gross < 1337579855 697823 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either keep the space or don't use < nick>!!! < 1337579866 640603 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My IRC client shows < nick>. < 1337579874 278656 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually delete it when I copy into a channel. < 1337579875 887026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is it irssi < 1337579878 123643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can fix that < 1337579880 186254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask monqy! < 1337579883 321316 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1337579886 971419 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i fix that < 1337579895 596222 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask elliott < 1337579902 627247 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: help < 1337579910 641334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's < 1337579911 501836 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08:23 show_nickmode_empty = OFF < 1337579916 544736 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be it < 1337579930 782733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I copy to a channel I will only quote the part which is necessary to quote < 1337579942 432984 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone say something! < 1337579946 484956 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I just did. < 1337579957 952723 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1337579959 498078 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1337579961 117160 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1337579963 8603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1337579963 357990 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if someone becomes an op? < 1337579968 555254 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then ther'es a @ < 1337579973 114718 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will their lines stop a-lining? < 1337579975 705828 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are worms we're the best and we've come to win the war < 1337579976 429405 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337579980 750537 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no mor a-lining < 1337579981 957376 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: That's the devil. :-( < 1337579991 228591 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1337579995 231397 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :text doesnt really align anyway < 1337580002 365973 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you dont make it align < 1337580002 384000 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather have a space before the < < 1337580004 430709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: turn off the @ display then < 1337580006 503368 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To keep it consistent. < 1337580008 558937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "stupid", say experts < 1337580012 863398 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, clearly you should join #shachaf and see < 1337580018 287188 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's the devil too. :-( < 1337580032 556417 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I expect you just joined that channel so that I won't be an op in it? < 1337580040 1111 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you know! < 1337580055 518116 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I opped you before you left... < 1337580092 997615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRB < 1337580122 585186 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337580142 266909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many different alignments of IRC messages are there? < 1337580147 354771 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1337580154 948280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I left #shachaf < 1337580163 969107 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: So did I! < 1337580182 152212 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337580185 764235 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I joined after you joined and left before you left. < 1337580203 699497 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like an shachaf Sgeo #shachaf sandwich! < 1337580335 356544 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't wait to eat food today < 1337580336 387167 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1337580341 299050 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1337580381 405905 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :∧.∧ < 1337580397 22547 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :∨.∨ < 1337580427 71765 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://twitpic.com/show/large/9nild1 -- guess God really does use lisp < 1337580439 632580 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337580441 158921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⊂.⊂.⊂.⊂ombo breaker < 1337580443 861634 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1337580446 406102 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: :-( < 1337580930 175888 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elliott it was < foo> that was hideous" ohh < 1337580986 415586 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :_why_ is the space there in some clients? < 1337581003 436131 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause if you're an op it shows as <@foo> < 1337581005 159073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: because @ goes there < 1337581006 360048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're an op < 1337581007 226735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stupid < 1337581008 277425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuuuupid < 1337581010 771367 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: To make it align with "<+foo>" and "<@foo>", I assume. < 1337581016 874869 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, shachaf: beaten < 1337581022 102179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1337581024 540393 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :'( < 1337581025 230359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creys < 1337581025 917905 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRR < 1337581029 804121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8D < 1337581032 303178 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, come to think of it, i have realized that multiple times. < 1337581032 828038 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: beaten < 1337581053 212745 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the status slot, where the status symbol goes, and empty status slot is a space < 1337581059 911890 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"more viewpoints" < 1337581063 96977 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thanks monqy" < 1337581064 129639 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy++ < 1337581079 820317 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm setting show_nickmode_empty back to ON now" < 1337581083 795509 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: it's for @ and + < 1337581258 822967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no you're terrible < 1337581296 792084 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Don't worry "i didn't really do it" < 1337581302 532418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1337581304 432228 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was lying. Which I guess makes me terrible. :-( < 1337581309 791045 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1337581310 741355 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it was in quotation marks. < 1337581327 222478 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow quotation marks < 1337581327 596272 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2q3u4o5t6a7t8i9o2n3 4m5a6r7k8s < 1337581332 985464 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a depressing rainbow. < 1337581340 386440 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ()ing with portals. Now you're think() < 1337581346 518972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it have to align? < 1337581354 78935 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you're both < 1337581393 368491 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both what? < 1337581397 589403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ov < 1337581405 134706 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only @ displays < 1337581446 221126 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott doesn't like < nick> because it symbolizes the non-existence of @ < 1337581483 931015 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry bout that < 1337581527 138181 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i read that wrong < 1337581625 718894 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki has some info on @ < 1337581634 147682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ^rainbow rainbow is slightly depressing partially because it doesn't go up to eleven, let alone 15; it only goes up to 9. < 1337581643 85496 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The fact that there is no single word in English for the symbol has prompted some writers to use the French arobase[4] or Spanish arroba or to coin new words such as apserand and ampersat - but none of these has achieved wide currency. < 1337581658 915695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone could fix it to use the same color ordering as < 1337581660 370893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow2 < 1337581660 858571 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█ ...too much output! < 1337581693 58120 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aspergand < 1337581712 755280 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does = secretly mean ⊆? < 1337581793 482879 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope one day @ has it's own wikipedia page < 1337581824 159180 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematicians overload way too much. < 1337581834 884861 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if = means ⊆, does (+) mean liftM2 (+)? < 1337581862 93426 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In Set.) < 1337581950 264288 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I too hope one day @ has it's own wikipedia page < 1337581987 201579 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPOILERS: IT ALREADY DOES < 1337581988 665230 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[@]] < 1337581996 534694 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi @ < 1337581998 425258 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat < 1337582041 793474 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@-hat: ̂@ < 1337582041 961918 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @. < 1337582054 608628 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thambdabot < 1337582073 523399 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show rainbo2 < 1337582074 296673 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@̂ < 1337582074 448323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ bf do ft id pl rc v wn < 1337582074 655240 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show rainbow2 < 1337582075 3161 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :((0)(15)(14)(1)(2)(12)(11)(10)(3)(9)(8)(7)(5)(4)(13)(6))(~^:()SSa~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a*~(█)S:^):^ < 1337582269 388490 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think that it's a good thing when you don't have to have much information to use a piece of a language < 1337582413 811585 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the case of a function or procedure i think it's nice when a summary is good enough < 1337582481 808999 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably not actually relevant < 1337582563 138807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be the funniest if "/nick @foo" would give you ops on every channel you're on. (And double-ops where you already had some.) < 1337582590 207687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: needs a backspace before the @ < 1337582592 57051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to overwrite the space < 1337582630 493847 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would also be funny if "/nick @foo" was a backdoor password into most login screens < 1337582683 532573 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i should stop re-peddling jokes < 1337582827 727306 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for IRC makes more sense < 1337582849 103355 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idiopathic autoreferent < 1337582865 907786 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^message I got when I tried to /nick to @Sgeo < 1337583091 448093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Erroneous Nickname", says the server. < 1337583139 567068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boringly. < 1337583318 217097 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION did it on a different server < 1337583319 783293 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1337583358 813718 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sergeant Eo < 1337583394 589531 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1337583500 397103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :v.v < 1337583541 650345 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v∨ < 1337583670 456918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :v < 1337584061 657070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: Hard Work! < 1337586978 703021 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337586993 101593 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337587010 194947 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337588488 985045 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337588619 223209 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337589215 357984 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2AeSsOcJv4 This... Should not work. < 1337589269 189155 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Daft Punk, "Around the World", orchestral. Arrangement by Walt Ribeiro) < 1337589488 680429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going to be one of those shitty basically-just-a-midi-version-run-through-a-vst things isn't it < 1337589493 672020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1337589517 219424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok its not as bad as i was expecting < 1337589550 666816 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was expecting utter ear-rape. < 1337589556 940272 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why I clicked I don't know. < 1337589572 900459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337589583 95643 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly it killed elliott. < 1337590691 425736 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal doesn't play BZFlag, does he? < 1337590700 921523 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was someone, with the name... AnSomething < 1337590711 846512 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot what the something was, but I was thinking Vorpal < 1337590736 29223 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And someone else, who apparently has played BZFlag for a very long time, claimed that that person used cheats. (Claimed this after that person was offline) < 1337590781 616159 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster? < 1337590793 422290 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^quote not markov < 1337590798 991808 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote not markov < 1337590802 434108 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong symbol < 1337590807 729595 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :626) Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1337590901 766354 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1337590922 135044 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, right, AnMaster is Vorpal, but I don't remember if the name I saw in BZFlag was AnMaster or something else < 1337590943 711468 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if it was AnMaster, it could be a coincidence < 1337590983 344979 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There can't be that many people playing BZFlag though. < 1337590989 174174 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Or caring enough to cheat for that matter. < 1337591639 117578 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1337592962 867934 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I don't play BZFlag < 1337592969 761786 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ok < 1337592974 63942 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it is a game, that is all < 1337592979 640200 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even remember what type of game < 1337592997 656326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337592999 23305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1337593023 540811 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened? < 1337593025 951945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at what i get when loading http://thepiratebay.se/: < 1337593027 17987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZHU2bg < 1337593201 416904 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, government's told all the ISP's to block Pirate Bay < 1337593207 980274 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try switching DNS < 1337593255 523713 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17894176 < 1337593443 351815 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or https://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/ < 1337593476 278451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you choose "yes" or "no"? < 1337593564 926153 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-7.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337593576 561061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337593721 971912 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337596702 965419 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-136-136.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337596725 911111 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-7.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337597201 843891 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how both yes and no are ambiguous answers to that question < 1337597232 433013 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So's "elephant" < 1337597634 73349 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Elephant" isn't ambiguous, just irrelephant. < 1337598846 734673 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337598874 252299 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337598964 537107 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oliphuant < 1337599005 828793 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was going to say not a typo, but the source I took that name from has a persistent typo < 1337599015 706091 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nomic.net/deadgames/fourplay/pieces/pieces.10s.html < 1337599020 468021 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Search for oliphuant < 1337599026 898447 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then click the link to Oliphuant < 1337599431 110278 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337599456 533842 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337600442 968806 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337600463 160624 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337600830 411955 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :el < 1337600837 236128 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither elliott nor PH are here < 1337600850 952325 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does happen occasionalyl < 1337600854 132850 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am here < 1337600856 491571 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Tube Trap changed around, so now water rises at Sudden Death < 1337600856 618803 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337600866 257139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover Tube Trap changed around, so now water rises at Sudden Death < 1337600866 384004 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337600885 805840 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, now I want to play GIRP < 1337600942 616936 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GIRP? < 1337601008 558101 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.foddy.net/GIRP.html < 1337604485 514374 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www1.reocities.com/SiliconValley/drive/2069/SimCity/SC3KNewsTicker.html < 1337605355 748168 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337606669 5559 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337606695 699658 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1337606695 874952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1337606722 725278 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, you have excessive underscores < 1337606760 665470 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Phantom_Hoover's evil twin. < 1337606766 766297 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah! < 1337606791 301360 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You... don't seem that evil < 1337606811 679790 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in a way, isn't that the most evil thing of all? < 1337606822 783456 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1337606825 195077 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1337606920 822894 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, you'd have messages if you had one underscore < 1337606931 69861 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages Phantom_Hoover < 1337606931 217455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1337606933 443148 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1337606934 519337 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth a shot < 1337606935 555336 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1337606935 684532 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337606962 487220 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i dont know what tube trap is < 1337606989 120111 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme for Worms: Armageddon < 1337606996 598195 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played it with either you or elliott, I forgot which < 1337607269 39304 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337607428 918840 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome david_werecat < 1337607432 997127 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337608806 916065 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1337608942 645750 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1337609532 783335 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's oerjan :( < 1337609589 473810 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we found a topological space which is countable and not first-countable, and the 5 (out of 143) spaces in counterexamples in topology which are countable but not first-countable share almost none of its properties < 1337609603 698780 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we found it by accident, it was supposed to be a really nice space :() < 1337609834 579666 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337610035 191658 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1337610629 338407 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337611106 320960 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have always classified worms and lemmings as pixel terraforming games, but not by that name < 1337611124 669539 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres very few such games notable in that style i think < 1337611619 895158 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hug~♪ < 1337611966 279971 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337612118 762 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337612799 309671 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337612810 390051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337613564 224631 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337614188 216038 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A60F.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337615295 263312 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Palindromes are rasemordnilap!" < 1337615941 138393 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that's a palindrome < 1337616013 262289 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337616032 230947 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1337616041 316872 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337616050 216404 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet NOÖNE has acknowledged my BRILLIANT joke in the /topic :( < 1337616163 584675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not /that/ brilliant < 1337616163 655862 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337616194 874186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott ? < 1337616194 984591 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337616333 651955 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :'( < 1337616448 929627 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what is the brilliant joke? < 1337616487 792428 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... the one in the /topic. < 1337617034 18242 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337617261 279652 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337617415 51729 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1337617426 416810 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus21 < 1337617837 259616 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337617912 520870 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anybody know off the top of their head if I've accidentally made a clone? http://esolangs.org/wiki/Headsecks < 1337617981 753080 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337618071 421625 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: You want the category "Brainfuck derivatives", not "Brainfuck equivalents" < 1337618103 814267 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe both, but the latter is barely-used and probably shouldn't exist (elliott?) < 1337618186 224357 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't deviate from Brainfuck in any meaningful way... < 1337618188 721267 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: You mention ignoring values 8 or 9 modulo 8, but those are respectively 0 and 1 modulo 8... < 1337618200 420903 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 % 8 == 0 < 1337618206 527196 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 % 8 == 0 < 1337618229 509574 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you've misinterpreted. < 1337618280 421222 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that 8 % 8 == 0. Maybe I have misinterpreted the article, though. < 1337618330 486996 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, that's obviously what I meant. I wasn't questioning your ability to do arithmetic < 1337618357 813397 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: Hm hm hm, I misunderstood slightly, you're right. Still, probably everything in the latter should additionally be in the former. < 1337618376 394361 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1337618399 994362 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"each character of the source code is interpreted as its ordinal value modulo 8" < 1337618400 518929 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know what I'm talking about, trust elliott's opinion if he chooses to appear. < 1337618406 8751 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"characters for which a value of 8 or 9 is produced" < 1337618423 370240 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "produced" bit in the latter pretty clearly refers to the former, I'd say. < 1337618478 669956 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I don't see how you get anything other than the range [0,7] when you take positive integers modulo 8. < 1337618487 284383 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely! < 1337618523 803911 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the statement is meaningless and just there to confuse? < 1337618525 337809 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... heh, whoops. I suppose it could be worded a bit better. My apologies for hastiness. < 1337618550 23483 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any characters which are congruent to 8 modulo 8 are also congruent to 0 modulo 8, so they'll map to 0 when you take the remainder. < 1337618754 594854 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337618763 895594 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which... will work as intended, I believe. < 1337618821 187465 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, nothing suspect showed up during preliminary testing, but that could be a result of running them all through the converter. < 1337618834 243387 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord ' ' `mod` 8 < 1337618835 10303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1337618839 575894 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space is plus. < 1337618875 570957 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't match with what I understand "silently ignored" to mean. < 1337618888 139384 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that the line has been removed. < 1337618943 571230 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What line? < 1337618950 104275 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, never mind. < 1337618972 851787 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Went to change it, saw I wasn't logged in, am login-banned, so switching browsers to change it now. < 1337618979 186300 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The line about silently ignoring, obviously. < 1337619011 993272 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just asked to confirm since that sentence obviously wasn't removed. :-P < 1337619021 853034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: what were you login-banned from? < 1337619072 997489 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reckon I need more coffee. Registered, forgot my password, tried to login five or six times, apparently too quickly. : / < 1337619094 870070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Esolang? < 1337619111 722180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it just put up a CAPTCHA when you did that, but maybe it's misconfigured < 1337619125 803056 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably don't need more coffee really < 1337619287 572663 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, it does display a captcha, but answering it correctly seems to serve no function. < 1337619297 428182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1337619299 219167 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: How do you mean? : ) < 1337619331 983344 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: it may have been your coffee in the first place which made you re-login so much < 1337619350 414556 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you may be right... i forget what programming feels like < 1337619379 865988 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh you weren't talking about programming -- I reckon I need more coffee. < 1337619393 511983 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is certainly a strange place for you to have wound up. ; ) < 1337619407 748289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: I'm not convinced that switching browsers will work, anyway < 1337619421 308383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of auto-ban, unfortunately I can't override; rebooting your router might help if you have a dynamic IP < 1337619439 905075 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One does not simply qwop into #esoteric < 1337619504 527620 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: For what it's worth, switching browsers worked... < 1337619510 623755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, hmm < 1337619522 593240 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double indecision. < 1337619936 917744 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337619961 757270 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337620375 189418 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337620666 45353 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337621021 947570 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337621144 127490 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PART :#esoteric < 1337621968 556067 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337622002 18934 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337622613 258017 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337622779 621918 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337622790 297451 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337622897 37943 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-198-86.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337623249 66949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337623312 32932 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337623405 673169 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is the topic about? < 1337623471 130082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: ask Gregor, it's some kind of joke apparently < 1337623483 503128 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337623506 85619 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wtf is the topic about? < 1337623510 302777 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it's a joke about austria and australia < 1337623723 416540 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a limut how many lines can you send per minute before you get kicked out for flooding on freenode? < 1337623731 293900 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*limit < 1337623800 80460 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You all (except for kmc) suck at jokes. < 1337623958 8751 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I didn't know that austria was named that in english and I couldn't figure out how someone could mistake switzerland could be confused with australia < 1337623979 604553 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-could mistake < 1337624067 882623 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the joke is missing some alps in australia < 1337624079 445337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337624160 659443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1337624255 982060 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(P.S. I'd just like to point out that I got the joke from the start) < 1337624352 683189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it immediately, but it isn't actually funny < 1337624370 126650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : is there a limut how many lines can you send per minute before you get kicked out for flooding on freenode? <-- yes, also a limit to how fast you send lines before ops get annoyed and kick you < 1337624382 651503 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: exactly < 1337624387 178200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: what's austria called in your native language? < 1337624398 249717 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itävalta < 1337624409 836060 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337624425 463220 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eastrule is a crude literal translation < 1337624524 594224 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to confuse austria and switzerland for a while though, got to thinking that the swedish for austria was a lot weirder than it is < 1337624554 5047 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337624557 338736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: hmm, not that far from the German name "Österreich" < 1337624601 528543 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. I expected english to have something similar < 1337624630 866569 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :austria probably means east kingdom in french or latin or whatever language that is < 1337624653 965501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aust" is quite close to "east" < 1337624680 738311 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be a mangled form of österreich < 1337624730 580282 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah: The name "Austria" is a Latinization of Österreich, which was first recorded in the 12th century. < 1337624733 688164 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has led to much confusion as German Ost is "east", but Latin auster is "south". < 1337624985 10976 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337625109 705548 :zos!~zos@199-7-156-33.eng.wind.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337625124 902794 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. Rube Goldberg would be proud of my shellscripts < 1337625197 178478 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337625375 75646 :zos!~zos@199-7-156-33.eng.wind.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337625953 451922 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337626269 405226 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :This just in: #esoteric has no sense of humor | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337626495 767762 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337626513 304033 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's funny < 1337626830 528332 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone here used TWENEX (also known as TOPS-20)? < 1337627288 633193 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not you should. sdf offers free shell account§ at twenex.org < 1337628038 160691 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337628061 569931 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*www.twenex.org < 1337628506 129543 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337628526 33930 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-136-136.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337628609 86058 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't trust any domain that doesn't resolve without www. ... < 1337628617 173440 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even extra-www.org resolves. < 1337628678 77375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wow, not only does www.org resolve, so does org. < 1337628715 78674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's probably Firefox automatically adding the www < 1337628725 788869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work in dig or w3m < 1337628748 47338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337628753 5113 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.org is just a normal TLD, there's nothing interesting in the fact that it resolves *shrugs* < 1337628757 790366 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrome appears to resolve http://org/ to about:blank < 1337628768 710309 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1337628769 631130 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SLD < 1337628769 998450 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame. < 1337628772 940809 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fails on other TLDs < 1337628794 627959 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, elliott < 1337628796 308870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well, org. resolving /would/ be interesting, but it doesn't :( < 1337628802 400079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1337628802 559701 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337628805 289934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why people habitually omit the trailing dot on domain names < 1337628811 622917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://ai./ < 1337628812 571626 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Neener neener. < 1337628818 153095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know < 1337628830 92589 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because that is the convention < 1337628833 551210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but org. is much more major, and therefore having an A record would be more surprising < 1337628846 15791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:33 ais523 asked 3h 30m 21s ago: ? < 1337628847 263302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi < 1337628848 917738 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how do you participate in this conversation? I thought you filtered URLs < 1337628861 75224 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and because domain names are no more ambiguous without the trailing dot < 1337628874 268663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped filtering URLs ages ago < 1337628876 692206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1337628886 75545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just didn't tell people in the hope they'd stop pinging me with them < 1337628907 173151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did tell people < 1337628912 591605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, just didn't tell everyone < 1337628914 893349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably told elliott < 1337628949 929252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you told the channel, at least < 1337629020 902442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(diff | hist) . . N Headsecks‎; 16:24 . . (+2,800)‎ . . ‎Andkerosine (Talk | contribs | block)‎ (Headsecks is born!) < 1337629025 863680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1337629032 240620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he came here and asked if it had been done before < 1337629040 885895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, a brainfuck derivative? < 1337629045 396269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that particular BF derivative < 1337629055 765491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's showing a surprising amount of genre knowledge :) < 1337629063 541595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, there are too many BF derivatives for one to ever repeat < 1337629067 587563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*possible BF < 1337629088 295795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we should put up an editnotice with a box saying "Is your language a brainfuck derivative? Please consider something more creative." < 1337629094 915706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for new pages < 1337629099 834975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1337629105 501268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, it should come up before people even come to the site < 1337629114 497228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should buy ads < 1337629118 510680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because normally they design the language first, /then/ come here to document it < 1337629119 852824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the web, billboards, etc. < 1337629128 238844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"STOP MAKING BRAINFUCK DERIVATIVES" < 1337629184 966400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:44:36: elliott: Did you choose "yes" or "no"? < 1337629186 825492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I chose "no". < 1337629192 714256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAN'T TAME ME < 1337629197 953915 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337629216 324263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Did you know your ISP DNS is probably censored now? :( < 1337629231 195779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNS? I thought it was using CleanFeed < 1337629233 513683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and yes) < 1337629240 299415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:37:05: look at what i get when loading http://thepiratebay.se/: < 1337629240 317645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:37:07: http://ompldr.org/vZHU2bg < 1337629255 493543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, IIRC the court order was "and don't just change the DNS, block it properly", but in more legal language < 1337629277 302388 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-132-134.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337629279 908393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are almost certainly hundreds of ways round it, ofc < 1337629299 408239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Taneb said < 1337629300 518530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:40:01: elliott, government's told all the ISP's to block Pirate Bay < 1337629300 536614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:40:07: Try switching DNS < 1337629311 552764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:44:03: Or https://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/ < 1337629315 175806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :must just be DNS, then, since that link works < 1337629338 200451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it resolve to the same IP, I wonder? < 1337629350 912733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it resolves to the pirate bay < 1337629387 810899 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337629411 506686 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-116-4.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337629421 293444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels vindictive at Facebook's share price < 1337629428 419242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:34:31: andkerosine: You want the category "Brainfuck derivatives", not "Brainfuck equivalents" < 1337629428 601642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:35:03: Or maybe both, but the latter is barely-used and probably shouldn't exist (elliott?) < 1337629433 6234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The latter is for things like Ook!. < 1337629438 474324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice to see the shares are doing badly; it's pretty rare for a company's share price to fall from the IPO < 1337629446 125921 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-116-4.as43234.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1337629461 738395 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually twenex.org resolves but it is a different machine (PDP-10) < 1337629464 940753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: BF equivalents is for things where all the commands map 1:1 to BF's, with nothing added or removed < 1337629474 115701 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-32.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337629567 382525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, I want to switch to another ISP anyway < 1337629596 142081 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, TalkTalk haven't blocked it yet < 1337629597 971105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:36:26: It doesn't deviate from Brainfuck in any meaningful way... < 1337629603 296951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is a shocking level of self-awareness < 1337629615 793524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's what I was commenting on < 1337629617 612194 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, they deserved it < 1337629618 750103 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-132-134.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337629657 601012 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could buy GOOG now :( < 1337629662 194528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:54:47: ais523: Well, it does display a captcha, but answering it correctly seems to serve no function. < 1337629672 178038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if andkerosine already got the brick ready < 1337629675 286110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so you could have stocks in the /other/ crappy social network? < 1337629685 148904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, maybe our CAPTCHA is too hard < 1337629696 177515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm wondering if he got it right or wrong < 1337629698 475474 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, because they got hammered due to FB, and are bouncing back up. < 1337629701 982357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:57:01: that sort of auto-ban, unfortunately I can't override; rebooting your router might help if you have a dynamic IP < 1337629708 759001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"serving no function" I bet means "displays another CAPTCHA" < 1337629711 977734 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't buy since it would be insider trading, even though the impulse to buy isn't based on insider information. < 1337629713 37688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is how it handles invalid entries < 1337629721 675115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ConfirmEdit's UI is terrible...) < 1337629727 225448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you work for a social network? < 1337629728 829354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It was a: joke. < 1337629737 645947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he works for Google < 1337629742 853785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1337629753 139415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam I just got: < 1337629776 209829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :From: "Antelmo Alvarado García" (with the quotes) < 1337629777 862548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subject: Re < 1337629778 227757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1337629781 534428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :loan offer,reply back for more info. < 1337629784 842754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's it) < 1337629850 177988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:17:35: (P.S. I'd just like to point out that I got the joke from the start) < 1337629851 831424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also < 1337629856 602315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:19:12: I got it immediately, but it isn't actually funny < 1337629857 335605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this < 1337629876 41179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:22:37: nortti_: hmm, not that far from the German name "Österreich" < 1337629877 325655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ostrich < 1337629921 53855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, www.org is the W3C < 1337629921 788290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1337630006 936520 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337630140 594097 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuckxt.... why do people keep making brainfuck derivatives < 1337630152 725312 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337630377 840673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: [http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Kryptonx User:KryptonX] < 1337630378 939515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how absurd < 1337630394 307702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everyone has to know wikisyntax < 1337630403 205557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, note that that corresponds to a piped link, not a regular one < 1337630405 760484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do < 1337630406 670676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :== External resources == < 1337630407 35072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [[Brainfuck++|Brainfuck++ -- A Brainfuck extension]] < 1337630412 569325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1337630415 219761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's an srlink < 1337630419 251681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :srlink? < 1337630429 983856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see {{srlink}} on Wikipedia, I invented it < 1337630442 972615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for self-links that conceptually point to "Wikipedia" rather than "this site" < 1337630451 363639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337630495 334444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Articles about online communities may well discuss Wikipedia as an example, in a neutral tone, without specifically implying that the article in question is being read on—or is a part of—Wikipedia." < 1337630503 411632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really love Wikipedia's self-reference policy. < 1337630516 847221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes the articles so much more fun to read. < 1337630583 453957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Template%3ASrlink&namespace=0 is quite an interesting list < 1337630602 292034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :List of people associated with the Revolt of the Comuneros (transclusion) ‎ (links) < 1337630610 252427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I smell a misuse... < 1337630620 511651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that article cites answers.com < 1337630627 779346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WP_on_Getty_images_with_watermark.jpg is reasonably confusing < 1337630646 851158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's used as an example on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyfraud < 1337630648 686449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is brilliant < 1337630654 938999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An image of the Main Page of Wikipedia watermarked, claimed as copyrighted, and sold by Getty Images and Agence France-Presse. Wikipedia text is licensed CC-BY-SA 3.0 which requires the same or similar free license on all derivative works." < 1337630655 827279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, that's how I found it < 1337630674 261123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best thing is the deletion notice, there's a raging debate as to whether it's copyvio or not < 1337630710 852385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it might be original enough to count < 1337630731 111248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see distortions from the screen, the browser chrome, the border of the laptop, the blankness behind it, and several watermarks < 1337630737 176983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also it's rotated < 1337630745 83824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd say it's probably a license violation < 1337630749 846090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, the deletion discussion's been going since January < 1337630750 300882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a copyvio < 1337630772 290120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is that Wikipedia and Getty are copyvioing each other < 1337630778 40553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't surprise me, given that Commons is apparently seriously dysfunctional < 1337630785 571055 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuckxt article: "make the language more powerful ... 100,000 ASCII Character slots" < 1337630796 968551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: it's more powerful in that it's sub-TC < 1337630802 839134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's only one level of loops < 1337630815 537037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, can you give your assessment as to the computational class of BrainfuckXT? FSA or LBA, I suspect < 1337630822 905710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wikifying it and want to put it in a computational class category < 1337630834 279736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd mean actually reading the article < 1337630837 939256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I /have/ to? :) < 1337630844 459805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/brainfuckXT < 1337630846 297059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :) < 1337630847 763288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go < 1337630878 134636 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1337630892 391629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "The image is a derivative of a CC-BY-SA image, so by the plain reading of the CC-BY-SA license must be (and is) licensed CC-BY-SA." < 1337630899 46401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, we have infinite memory, but awkward control flow < 1337630900 664241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: these people need to play nomic... < 1337630901 35763 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : nortti_: it's more powerful in that it's sub-TC because there's only one level of loops // the interesting thing is that we don't need infinite levels of loops to simulate a UTM, so the question is, how many depths of loops renders it TC (OH GOD FANCY L) < 1337630907 464394 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Getty violated Wikimedia's terms, Wikimedia cannot then go use the illegally licensed image itself? < 1337630909 446692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's not true; there's also the possibility that it's illegal < 1337630910 29622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHALL but didn't < 1337630926 451814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: indeed < 1337630930 974303 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is something that people keep getting wrong about the GPL, incidentally < 1337630931 970995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: of course not, Getty hold the copyright to it; if they didn't, they wouldn't be able to license it as CC-BY-SA < 1337630935 462688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what they're required to do, of course < 1337630938 30004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's commonly used to spread FUD < 1337630942 481609 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the possibility of fair use, lest we forget. < 1337630950 389170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's copyrighted to them and not released under any free license, so it's illegal for Wikimedia to use it < 1337630953 252714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I believe Getty and Wikimedia both hold the copyright to parts of it < 1337630955 537910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, Getty are also breaking the law < 1337630957 560451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a separate matter < 1337630959 988328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as does whoever wrote the main page blurbs on the day in question < 1337630970 245508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well... < 1337630975 431885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I doubt you could use that under fair use < 1337630978 739697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can hardly argue it's irreplacable < 1337630984 798960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make a similar image in 10 minutes < 1337630987 7208 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not, but it's an angle of argument. < 1337630994 866979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: also, it's probably being misused as fair use < 1337630998 109777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's being used to illustrate copyfraud < 1337631001 792048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than Wikipedia, or... computers < 1337631003 797130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, this is confusing; it has while and an if that can go inside it, but the tape is 100000 elements long, but it also supports arbitrary-length strings < 1337631009 865714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or photography at weird angles < 1337631014 639993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's being used for a sort of meta-use < 1337631021 69469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably not OK fair use < 1337631029 982453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are you sure it supports arbitrary-length strings? < 1337631035 124571 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: also, it's probably being misused as fair use // I actually meant fair use the other way, Getty may be able to argue free use. < 1337631039 901968 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1337631041 1992 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fair use < 1337631050 66394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's no indication anywhere that the strings are bounded in length < 1337631056 250417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: err, hmm < 1337631059 450269 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If it makes you feel better, that image is currently marked for deletion due to potential copy vio. < 1337631062 745360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's interesting, but I don't know if it's true < 1337631065 559969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the "indexing integer" has unlimited range, I think it's TC < 1337631067 398770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: that's what we're discussing < 1337631067 951772 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... would a similar image really be a suitable example of copyfraud? < 1337631083 37288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if it's an indexing integer, presumably the maximum value is 100,000 < 1337631084 539588 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Neither do I, I'm just saying it's a possible argument for Getty :) < 1337631086 266958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1337631096 858956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, but that doesn't change the fact that Wikipedia are probably misusing it and so it doesn't count as fair use for them in the first place < 1337631103 98452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, there's the tape ("ASCII slots"), which is 100000 characters long < 1337631114 701154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also 30,000 "string slots" which hold arbitrary-length strings < 1337631128 32928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337631147 29308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, there's no way to read the value of a string or a character in a string, only to print it out < 1337631150 984375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that language has far too many print operators < 1337631214 45532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe i should tell dtsund he's probably violating the Crawl license < 1337631249 473895 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1337631263 755474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, Randall Munroe CC-by-saed exactly one panel of xkcd, so that Wikipedia could use it to illustrate the article < 1337631266 192788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's importing commits from Stone Soup, but not attributing their authors < 1337631281 931945 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : haha, Randall Munroe CC-by-saed exactly one panel of xkcd, so that Wikipedia could use it to illustrate the article // lolwut? Which? Where? < 1337631285 70333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always make sure to attribute the authors when importing in NetHack 4 < 1337631290 555278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Xkcd_philosophy.png < 1337631293 743509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1337631297 231252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is he even making new commits? < 1337631298 883851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's git < 1337631302 553093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he can just cherry-pick the commit < 1337631307 879244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have git track the authorshi < 1337631308 230624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just", hahahaha < 1337631308 795309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1337631315 999862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh shush, it's not that difficult < 1337631322 584166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it usually doesn't work < 1337631330 380530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, maybe I won't bother telling him, probably nobody cares < 1337631335 433562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, git doesn't track the authorship specially, just appends something to the commit message < 1337631352 66795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I feel bad about it) < 1337631387 845617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few other CC-by-saed xkcd panels, mostly ones that refer to Wikipedia itself < 1337631396 233313 :jobes!~jobes@2001:67c:1220:c1a0:4a5b:39ff:fe1a:6240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337631411 223051 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoaaaah, we have a visitor from the land of ipv6. < 1337631431 733979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome jobes < 1337631434 577996 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jobes: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337631435 265066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you from... the future? < 1337631443 343116 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: goodnight < 1337631452 50638 :jobes!~jobes@2001:67c:1220:c1a0:4a5b:39ff:fe1a:6240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1337631480 379524 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337631509 403708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, simply adding the authors of all the imported commits to a file in a new commit should be sufficient, right? < 1337631523 790942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337631533 476753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good way to avoid giving legal advice < 1337631555 133176 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337631563 948197 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337631733 68650 :jobes!~jobes@2001:67c:1220:c1a0:4a5b:39ff:fe1a:6240 PART #esoteric :"Odchzm" < 1337632228 543931 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1337632239 204717 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to give illegal advice, but how... < 1337632267 940450 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a laywer and a doctor. I recommend taking your heart out and carving your will into it. < 1337632321 283058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337632475 538783 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337632502 565677 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a lawyer, I wholeheartedly recommend misrepresenting yourself as a lawyer. < 1337632530 132490 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as your attorney i advise you to rent a very fast car with no top < 1337632876 794078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I think this may be the proper way to define an improper religion: "who use deceptive recruitment practices and use advanced psychological manipulative techniques to reduce their followers to near-zombie state. They entrap followers within the group and destroy their ability to think logically." < 1337632916 31759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It would probably be difficult to do anything if your heart has been removed, isn't it? < 1337632927 595310 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am high on SLEEP DEPRIVATION < 1337632940 254455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337634134 283983 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337634319 553190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm terrified of mine and/or ais523's powers now. < 1337635411 606637 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://ompldr.org/vZHU2bg <-- I heard using google translate on the page usually works < 1337635417 883062 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you are still looking for a solution) < 1337635448 777823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds a lot more painful than just using a different DNS server or the alternate domain name... or not using TPB, which has been working fine for me. < 1337635452 646823 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with magnet links, there is no tracker to block < 1337635465 930689 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah okay, the google translate trick is for when the IP is blocked too < 1337635525 258834 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1337636652 983438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone misusing the tag :( < 1337636764 605490 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1337636790 675396 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1337637928 99988 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something very strange has happened ... < 1337637944 971987 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either my sense of smell /markedly/ and inexplicably improved during the night between Saturday and Sunday, < 1337637957 566247 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I'm having some kind of multi-day psychotic event in which I imagine that my sense of smell has markedly improved. < 1337638060 589360 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that I mostly seem to smell something akin to the taste of rust, which I interpret to be blood, lends credence to the latter explanation. < 1337638097 407992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Your fnarfitude is fnarfolving. < 1337638143 387384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: If it helps, blood is quite metallic for normal people, too :P < 1337638166 770705 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that I don't think I should be smelling blood. < 1337638170 489845 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with the lack of blood around me. < 1337638182 138220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Blood is INSIDE you, man. < 1337638190 33883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're fnarfing YOURSELF. < 1337638204 358060 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh < 1337638337 782962 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337638383 872533 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :JESUS < 1337638390 561891 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My eye is burning < 1337638394 987485 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just smelled mints < 1337638433 52129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmmm < 1337638436 879377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Mints smell lovely. < 1337638443 179958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also taste lovely. < 1337638451 30784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might clear up that rusty smell! < 1337638495 270600 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337638662 923634 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337638764 437693 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: add to vocabulary: noöne < 1337638784 692558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no-one" is an awful word < 1337638785 997616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :say nobody < 1337638802 939690 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, say nopony. < 1337638806 411616 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAW HAW HAW *runs* < 1337638814 16988 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :noöne looks even better (as in more awful). < 1337638921 103771 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337639012 545071 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337639191 175287 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337639218 18000 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337639218 379089 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1337639226 562813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1337639229 637590 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1337639258 267086 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337639260 144412 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1337639267 74623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1337639273 616607 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1337639285 984894 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337639287 417865 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ю < 1337639306 53447 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ʞ < 1337639712 798048 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337639870 225594 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337640323 602229 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337640652 725913 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337641637 112132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that if the tax brackets are 10% up to $50.00 and 20% up to $100.00, then if you earn $51.00 then the amount of tax you pay should be $5.20 < 1337641700 295220 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's how tax brackets work < 1337641708 338538 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it would be totally braindead < 1337642165 845216 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337642837 901487 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337643003 33546 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337643093 233514 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337643184 163689 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337643189 333496 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-95.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337643233 727008 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1337643845 800322 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337643912 690469 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337645616 457453 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimcrack (n). Definition: gewgaw < 1337645618 579147 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee, thanks. < 1337645643 701063 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gewgaw (n). Definition: gimcrack < 1337645665 521590 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'll bet < 1337646359 633310 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god I can still smell make it stop < 1337646364 652252 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337646566 853437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Try milk. < 1337646772 876499 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I haven't got any. < 1337647166 732071 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337647232 869446 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A60F.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337647911 993593 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337647925 24969 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337648840 146393 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337648843 324339 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337649379 938377 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1337650247 654486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what's this about doodads? < 1337650271 73168 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I was just curious about curios. < 1337650336 202569 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joanie loves tchotchkes < 1337651110 493676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Dungeons&Dragons game, I have used a few methods to determine my location when it was unknown (as well as confirm that we have not been time-warped); some by magic, and some by astronomy. < 1337651188 735024 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have a plan except determining what to tell to the chancellor < 1337651558 724614 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is one idea of D&D spell: Level: Clr 0, Drd 0, Sor/Wiz 0 Casting time: Immediate Range: 10 ft Duration: 1 round/level or until discharged (D) Target: One creature Save: Will negates Resist: Yes Components: V, S, XP < 1337651636 160946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the target of this spell is targeted by a 9th or higher level spell in the duration of this spell, this spell becomes discharged, the other spell is canceled, and target takes 1 point of damage and so does the caster of other spell. This spell fails if target has used magic in past 5 rounds, and is canceled if target uses magic during this spell's duration. XP cost: 1 XP. < 1337653038 258946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a list of strategies for mahjong which consists of jokes as well as things that aren't related to mahjong. Including: "Always remember what your tiles look like, in case of sudden blindness." and "Do not discard tiles nobody has discarded, or that anybody has discarded early, mid, or late game. If possible you can consider not discarding at all. But it's a double-edged sword. I can't recommend this to amateurs." < 1337653441 592433 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Never choose scissors, unless the other guy chooses paper." Does this mean that Urbanus Defense and stalemates are not effective if you choose scissors? < 1337653574 134031 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337653760 965977 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337654198 392299 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you ever played Double Fanucci? < 1337654228 270766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, I have never done so. < 1337654235 294662 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pity. < 1337654261 281885 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Three undertrumps after an opponent's discard of a Trebled Fromp is an indefensible gambit, and is the only known way to win at Double Fanucci." < 1337654282 320227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I know that already. < 1337654295 307210 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you ever play _Zork Zero_? < 1337654301 918386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1337654307 348968 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should! < 1337654317 543155 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the legal moves in Double Fanucci is "Cheat", I believe. < 1337654324 798338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not have a copy of this game < 1337654347 933731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I would like to have a Fanucci deck, as well as a tarot deck < 1337654395 206139 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You should acquire a copy of Zork Zero and play it! < 1337654440 826503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it run in Frotz? < 1337654587 206031 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so? < 1337654593 72521 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I ran it in WinFrotz. < 1337654606 168775 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a .zip file. < 1337654609 940066 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z-code Version 6? < 1337656823 696995 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337660049 252358 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1337660514 987100 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337660723 159994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dvilj < paper.dvi | lp" doesn't work; you need to specify "dvilj - < paper.dvi | lp" to get your document to print. Why did they make it like that? < 1337660870 474575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any tarot deck, Fanucci deck, flower card (hanafuda) deck, etc? < 1337660905 918188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I own a Japanese flower card deck made by Nintendo. < 1337662555 516400 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, monqy UPDATE < 1337662569 458458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1337662571 794463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only gets worse over time < 1337662613 318027 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337662678 218406 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1337662700 619626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337662757 746768 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337663955 991724 :nortti_!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337664058 182320 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ORiOYOH3NI4 hey, graphic quality that I'm used to! < 1337666027 134071 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1337666359 569054 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which feature should I implement next for Internet Quiz Engine? * Timer/time limits * Synchronet module * Printout * Text entry questions * Other (please specify) < 1337666439 533914 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: * Other (please specify) < 1337666460 941045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK. Please specify. < 1337666481 376629 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, I thought that option was me asking *you* to specify. < 1337666492 41815 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case I want * Synchronet module < 1337666546 781888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. I think it is possible to write Synchronet modules in Javascript, although C and so on can also be used < 1337666583 862304 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what a * Synchronet module is. < 1337666587 24887 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it sounds fancy. < 1337666667 534669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean a door program for Synchronet BBS < 1337667055 118077 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please learn what it is before answering! < 1337667297 281728 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Other (Skynet) < 1337667921 167326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this Skynet? < 1337668291 84476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Synchronet includes a telnet server, rlogin server, FTP server, HTTP server, gopher server, SMTP server, POP3 server, NNTP server, and IRC server; external door programs can be native programs, Javascript programs, and DOS programs (regardless of what operating system Synchronet is running on); connects to DOVE-Net and FidoNet; and even some more things..... < 1337668372 131233 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why do you like Gopher so much? < 1337668375 354532 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one uses it. < 1337668381 403807 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even Firefox doesn't support it anymore. < 1337668463 940370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people use it. And, there are extensions for Firefox to support it (which works better than what Firefox used to have, too) < 1337669116 651792 :nortti_!~chatzilla@82.128.144.70 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1337669163 821173 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skynet is a reference to a fictional computer (network?). It was evil, or something < 1337669178 800407 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should actually watch or something < 1337669309 277988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1337669607 188554 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why do you use a protocol that requires extra effort to be able to use, and is used by such a very small minority of people in the world? < 1337669927 14820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't require extra effort. < 1337670042 908924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337670139 526239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1337670181 761944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337670195 660475 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1337670242 388859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1337670440 471401 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it requires you to install a plugin < 1337670698 862574 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once pondered the possibility of storing static webpages as about: URLs, distributed via .reg files that would install a shorter about: URL as a pointer to the larger about: URL < 1337670714 612820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was a kid) < 1337670756 292280 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ponder < 1337670803 81946 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was scared of web hosting. < 1337670816 820674 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seemed to cost money. Clearly, distributing .reg files would be free, or something < 1337671821 763237 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337672588 415717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.spacex.com/webcast/ neat < 1337672655 663931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're all going to miss it !!! < 1337672689 828270 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im watch < 1337672723 665835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you miss the lift-off!!! < 1337672728 319482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i saw it < 1337672731 276651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1337672731 450336 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the countdown too < 1337672737 18672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a good countdown < 1337672739 473786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of time passing < 1337672741 542596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of times < 1337672773 718812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the camera attached to it < 1337672789 646632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i'm assuming that's what it is < 1337672811 161165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1337672813 913033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at that camera go < 1337672849 703352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok a camera burning up is the coolest-looking thing < 1337672858 855624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i guess it's not burning up < 1337672863 25215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's going messy!!! < 1337672898 378804 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocket xcitement < 1337672907 604477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing looks hot!!! < 1337672913 877822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful camera < 1337672935 105765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sure is quiet in space < 1337673003 540518 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337673052 45212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think something's about to happen!!!! < 1337673058 227974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocket xcitement levels: doubled < 1337673135 779870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Well, you can install various programs are available. But anything on the computer require installing a plugin unless included with operating system. With Windows, you need to install a program to use Firefox and wget too; with Linux both programs are included by default. < 1337673164 346282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok something didn't happen < 1337673166 756299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still xciting < 1337673210 522132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oohh < 1337673211 769209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: prettey < 1337673213 488458 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wohoa, < 1337673218 835861 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that!! < 1337673237 810599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1337673238 327517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :space < 1337673239 878255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nebulas < 1337673248 81140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in star trek! < 1337673268 798310 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whpaoaoaooaoa < 1337673274 864628 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see that < 1337673285 177074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337673286 833221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is the camera < 1337673289 986242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it floating in space :( < 1337673304 25051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good it's not < 1337673305 396765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1337673309 172879 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1337673313 348213 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cameraaaaaaa < 1337673318 888075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice abstract art < 1337673327 902889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it's freaking out! < 1337673355 172837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :camera pls cooperate < 1337673411 683284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocket are you ok < 1337673423 295262 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a great moment < 1337673428 362299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you see the spacex logo melting < 1337673433 501233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it was awaiting downlink thingy < 1337673434 379286 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1337673437 210340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was beautiful < 1337673441 82708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :video compression is wonderful < 1337673453 587755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocket are you melting < 1337673465 863845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ok!!! < 1337673476 35381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't want to see maps show me camera < 1337673537 283546 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy < 1337673570 275528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these people rockets < 1337673581 214852 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a rocket < 1337673582 768978 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i a rocket < 1337673583 804039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow i didn't expect presenters < 1337673587 649823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is amazing < 1337673646 33525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice musak < 1337673648 469211 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :space muzik < 1337673649 21610 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1337673661 395897 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this what space sounds like < 1337673674 837291 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwww < 1337673678 310698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1337673679 185446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's aww < 1337673685 977351 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SpaceX Our live webcast is now complete. Thanks for tuning in. #DragonLaunch < 1337673691 489074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ! < 1337673699 61715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but < 1337673703 55491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll be back later right??? :'( < 1337673709 455401 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know :[ < 1337673716 916311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm i'm going to keep tuned in < 1337673718 810211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this space muzak < 1337673720 362939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1337673722 83351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stopped < 1337673724 376537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooooooooo < 1337673730 275634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i finally understand the harsh reality of space < 1337673829 661127 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337673982 152050 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337675066 86168 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337675843 16945 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337676582 966236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1337676592 33372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl's tilegen stuff pops up one thing in my dock for each tile < 1337676593 237880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a dance < 1337676657 67797 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dock? < 1337676665 979107 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what desktop thing you using < 1337676673 12979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X, temporarily. < 1337676826 193944 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1337677792 167322 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a "10 point must system"? < 1337677896 83106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337678759 961026 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We may be stupid, but we're not clever" < 1337678827 478890 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337678915 908549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whose quotation is that? < 1337679125 609364 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from A Bit of Fry and Laurie < 1337679126 163757 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8ESoNgdR8E < 1337679146 329320 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around 4:22 < 1337679182 892031 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how do you Americans live with your crazy danger plugs < 1337679183 109993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337679195 859023 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean are you immune to electricity < 1337679206 558873 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Danger plugs? < 1337679259 583216 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NEMA-AC-Power-Plugs.jpg < 1337679264 779944 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE FACE OF ELECTRICAL DEATH < 1337679394 495754 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with that? < 1337679443 784713 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There aren't any insulating sleeves on the blades! You can have live current flowing through exposed conductors centimetres from your hand! < 1337679492 376554 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think approximately no one grabs the cord by the blandes < 1337679494 267656 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever < 1337679524 894514 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes but the plug is so small! < 1337679527 417274 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to have it sticking half-way in for that to even be possible, really < 1337679537 930030 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would a cord be sticking in an outlet halfway in? < 1337679552 401759 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the cable comes out of the back so it could get pulled halfway out! < 1337679562 77563 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW ARE YOU STILL ALIVE < 1337679614 55226 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, good point < 1337679624 148623 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, it's really not difficult to not get electrocuted, I think < 1337679642 534482 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have knives where you are? If you misuse those, you can get killed < 1337679668 764700 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: I'm not actually as defensive as I seem, I think) < 1337679726 364121 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well obviously, but using one of your crazy plugs is like JUGGLING KNIVES BLINDFOLDED < 1337679736 162091 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the blindfold is MADE OF KNIVES < 1337680039 452848 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A60F.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337680309 755663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337680325 807501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337680630 428043 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337680808 132632 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-95.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337681210 545364 :Phantom_Hoover!5ead1a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.173.26.134 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1337681323 513804 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337681391 967945 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337681412 57205 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337681963 503980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was playing Wheel of Fortune on computer and got BANKRUPT three times in a row < 1337681985 551516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337682525 31046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the europlug really that much different? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europlug2.jpg < 1337682538 38299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has plastic but < 1337682541 625517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear god you poor europeans < 1337682545 866202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1337682550 377184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Moulded_and_rewireable_BS_1363_plugs.jpg < 1337682553 649625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the face of true safety < 1337682597 213549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Three_pin_mains_plug_%28UK%29.svg < 1337682598 74497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :safety < 1337682615 894383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you've got that weirdo built-in fuse thing. < 1337682630 609776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuse is there for SAFETY < 1337682641 248058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Safety is for WUSSIES. < 1337682645 69692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The plug is polarised, so that the fuse is in the line side of the supply. The standard specifies retention force for the contacts, so that the plug is difficult to dislodge by accidental knocks or strains on the flexible cord. The flexible cord always enters the plug from the bottom, discouraging removal by tugging on the cable, which can damage the cable. The internal arrangement of the terminals ensures that if the cable is pulled < 1337682645 87835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of the plug, the line wire breaks first. < 1337682669 114646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAFETY < 1337682729 620729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most shucko plugs also make a 90-degree angle w.r.t. the pins and the cable direction, though not all do. < 1337682852 888976 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schuko, apparently. Well, anyway, letter order. < 1337682890 752216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :schkuo < 1337682971 668982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I tell to the chancellor to lead him into the trap? (This is the Dungeons&Dragons game) < 1337683131 50785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schuko plug isn't "polarised", though, so you can plug it in "the wrong way around". There was a hilarious article in one magazine article about how having your devices plugged in the wrong way will make you sick. I think it also involved using a crystal pendulum to get the orientation right. < 1337683194 375553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The game is really won with words, not with swords.) < 1337683247 417277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.radionuoret.net/images/topseli_vaarinpain.jpg -- sadly, it's a scan so (probably? do they do OCR yet?) no Google Translate for you. < 1337683254 9570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can see her doing the pendulum thing. < 1337683269 917981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a crystal pendulum, though. < 1337683326 118221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When a metal band, for example a symmetric ring, hanging from a string, is brought next to the outlet, it will start swinging if the plug has the wrong orientation", to paraphrase from the body text. < 1337683388 212111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :She does not recommend you to go swapping your plugs around unless you know what you're doing, though. < 1337683643 353005 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(She's an... "energy therapeut", so she's an expert in these things.) < 1337683707 88079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I cleaned up [[nethackwiki:NetHack 4]]; you're welcome. < 1337683707 323509 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337684390 927002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337684478 591796 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A60F.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337685166 707548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 By the way, what's #tip? < 1337685166 852751 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337686681 322142 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337686708 7984 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337687239 272367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NetHack meme: basically it's the only new feature that's not in any of the variants and is confirmed to be in $NEXTVERSION, and it's really minor, and many people think it's ridiculous < 1337687239 420733 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337687245 256464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1337687245 446548 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1337687249 324020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what is that feature? < 1337687257 913228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a command that lets you tip containers over < 1337687282 934631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1337687284 312566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to what effect? < 1337687346 931276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the contents fall out < 1337687399 9412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's awesome < 1337687401 93706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should implement it < 1337688717 111769 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT 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133848 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1337694341 877609 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337695047 93142 :cheater!~cheater@g229021157.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1337695272 768533 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337695289 136930 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337695348 326080 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337695356 901829 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337695471 751214 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337695527 929628 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337695529 645467 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337695532 571831 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337695547 801636 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337695563 856139 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337695592 990464 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :TOMORROW IS THE MOUNTAIN | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337695939 815086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337697625 389788 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337697649 668712 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337697900 563409 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337698168 935135 :cheater!~cheater@g229021157.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1337698442 568091 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if Quassel has improved since he last tried it < 1337698456 155784 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.8 is out < 1337698537 399052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Useless use of \E" < 1337698542 258054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't have to phrase it /quite/ like that :) < 1337698559 120914 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does \E do? < 1337698580 146138 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why Perl is fourth on my list of non-esoteric programming languages to learn < 1337698609 532543 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that perl was esoteric. like java' < 1337698628 377548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me, I was going to delete [[esolang:Java]] < 1337698643 750354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but instead I'll tell ais523 to do it < 1337698663 980307 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java's my third for reasons I don't quite know < 1337698676 445550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: cancels a preceding directive to lowercase, uppercase, or quote interpolated variables < 1337698694 258069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i will do that now: < 1337698702 208636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey ais523, delete [[esolang:Java]], please < 1337698723 273515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was already doing it < 1337698733 625170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1337698733 966393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: the warning happens if you \E without anything for it to cancel < 1337699013 273782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337703354 176025 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337703548 272355 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337705540 173544 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337706875 829444 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337706898 95366 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337707878 19078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337707985 506309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337708634 212503 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337709764 14328 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337710227 476669 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337710301 235748 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.44.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337710303 130498 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337710320 430083 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.44.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try to check the site of cottages in BALI: www.bebaucottage.comli.com < 1337710321 499000 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.44.136 PART :#esoteric < 1337710334 540565 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337710423 696403 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337710548 517139 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea, I want to ask if anyone knows whether it's been done before < 1337710559 67892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: OK please do so < 1337710579 139177 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: the answer is yes. someone knows. < 1337710593 140478 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps in the very channel! < 1337710597 434581 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*this < 1337710607 185429 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the source code is a 2d maze, probably with some sort of doors and keys system < 1337710623 626683 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :outputs 1 if there is a path through it and 0 if there is not < 1337710635 495276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337710636 478689 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :requires nondeterministic computing to compile < 1337710646 377832 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pathfinding or whatever it's called < 1337710652 122962 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it doesn't. < 1337710652 498759 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337710664 698261 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on what youmean < 1337710667 785727 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's as far as I've got < 1337710679 311068 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is there that's similar < 1337710685 498044 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the door/key system is in a sense turing-complete < 1337710693 920606 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is to say you can implement xircuits with it < 1337710703 283290 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there is no such decider < 1337710715 794754 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fast decider < 1337710722 908048 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337710725 479416 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no decider < 1337710733 962911 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's finite in size < 1337710753 944660 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then the door/key system must not be TCthen < 1337710758 297378 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in state space < 1337710775 634466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then no, i've never heard of anything like it < 1337710785 477122 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my idea is that every door can be open or closed < 1337710799 610199 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and keys/switches control them < 1337710826 119420 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1337710913 740142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337711368 202651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337711923 253475 :Snowyowl!836fdb83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.111.219.131 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1337711992 392938 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HATS < 1337712023 929014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if Gregor has a sombrero < 1337712070 254343 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sombrero" is just Spanish for "hat" < 1337712082 478324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually learned that just the other day. < 1337712084 886085 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That being said, http://codu.org/hats/Cowpoke-med.jpg. < 1337712154 245369 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-147-47.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337712163 3175 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I now finally have a skimmer, which is why I said "HATS") < 1337712328 407655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent for steamboat strolling, i assume < 1337712355 518632 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1337712704 227150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you just need to get chrome-free tapdancing shoes. < 1337712746 540140 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naw, I'll just swindle ponies out of their cider. < 1337712914 682081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes that's a MLP reference < 1337713070 705910 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337713213 907118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything's full of multilayer perceptron references these days. < 1337713232 344457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think < 1337713798 357769 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :multilayer pony < 1337713799 907818 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my little perceptron < 1337713934 231272 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Little Perceptron: Machine Learning is Magic < 1337714070 624791 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337714476 838357 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337714505 13099 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337714512 237574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evening < 1337714514 330966 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1337714553 798780 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1337714575 553984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you're not in sweden? < 1337714581 750149 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I am < 1337714608 418500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did sweden suddenly move? < 1337714641 324823 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always moving < 1337714655 607779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1337714662 664162 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweden has rollerskates now < 1337714844 631161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that funnyish story about Great Britain moving. < 1337714852 727151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm < 1337714880 500406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it's kind of pointless. < 1337715215 402074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe more than kind of. < 1337715611 865415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337715683 702649 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337716239 675617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, uh... The... I mean, this... there's this Eurovision contest thing, and this one entry is... it's about "social networks". < 1337716269 97754 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's the Eurovision doing? < 1337716270 329453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's inevitable, isn't it. < 1337716275 150288 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK sucking as usual? < 1337716277 41821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called "The Social Network Song: oh oh uh oh oh". < 1337716289 732076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't see you until the finals, I think. < 1337716298 852106 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1337716304 530635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't you one of the guaranteed-in countries? < 1337716311 762420 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so? < 1337716318 688562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't watch tv, but i read somewhere that the uk's singer is supposedly engelbert humperdinck < 1337716320 922599 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really follow it < 1337716325 53182 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah it is < 1337716340 884243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems to be the case. < 1337716350 868270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The finals are on Saturday. < 1337716351 384040 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the Powers That Be thought, "I know what will win it this time! Getting someone who hasn't been popular for 40 years with a silly name!" < 1337716389 801664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our singer's singi in Swedish. < 1337716390 316998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the silly name was taken from someone else who was dead already then, i read < 1337716399 51013 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :euro neuro < 1337716404 598692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose they're hoping to get votes from Sweden. < 1337716408 827298 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard that one < 1337716436 591123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: might work for norwegians too < 1337716477 279556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337716498 580904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweden's song is titled "Euphoria", but I don't know what language they use. It's on the Thursday semifinal, not today. < 1337716544 478057 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it was english (I should not know this) < 1337716560 134305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As seems to be Norway, with "Stay", by someone called "Tooji". < 1337716584 583222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Denmark's on right at this moment, though. < 1337716642 809883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tooji is a wholesome norwegian youth from pakistan or thereabouts. < 1337716652 451330 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that social network song was not very good, I'm surprised < 1337716751 20631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our song included a musician (cellist?) who has lived in Israel earlier, which, according to the announcers of the Finnish TV broadcast, should net us some Israelite votes. < 1337716758 599807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how that works. < 1337716785 431874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess shachaf would vote for you if he wasn't in the us. < 1337716823 468960 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys in Finland, Sweden, and Norway get to be in a sweet voting block < 1337716828 118099 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And your entries don't suck < 1337716829 495039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they also mentioned that Finland and Estonia are the only two countries where the TV broadcast includes (translated) subtitles for the actual songs. < 1337716840 911041 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UK has Ireland and Malta in our block < 1337716864 678611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought denmark would be in ours, but maybe they're not participating? < 1337716878 615582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:56 < fizzie> Denmark's on right at this moment, though. < 1337716888 621596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1337716908 799956 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se TOPIC #esoteric :ESOTERIC SONG CONTEST | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337716913 967242 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any danes or icelanders in this channel? < 1337716942 970621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i saw a dane here once. they're surprisingly rare. < 1337716954 874660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not sure if voting in these semifinals is restricted to countries in it? In which case this one would have only Finland, Denmark and I guess Iceland, which I missed; and then Norway and Sweden on Thursday. < 1337716962 437169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while the icelanders are rare, unsurprisingly. < 1337716989 295772 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iceland's bigger than Northumberland, and there's at least two Northumbrians here < 1337716999 827198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru dat < 1337717041 155099 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's only bigger by about 6000, though) < 1337717058 581110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Finland has really gotten so many votes from the "block", statistically speaking. I mean, sure, they vote for us more than the overall average, but it's often just a token one point. < 1337717067 525816 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: bigger in area or population? < 1337717087 671932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :6000 units bigger in area. < 1337717133 438156 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, population < 1337717182 504975 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I lived on Iceland I'd probably be too busy running from volcanoes to spend a lot of time on IRC < 1337717229 664078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337717262 941475 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PART #esoteric :"AndroIRC" < 1337717380 484509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... it's Austria and a "tracktor gangsta-rap duo". < 1337717433 628418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :by austria, do you mean austria, australia or switzerland? :P < 1337717468 936124 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Sweden? < 1337717494 662990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Australia hasn't historically had a large presence in the eurovision contest, I don't thing. < 1337717531 200472 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Japan should join ESC, they belong in that kind of contest < 1337717544 734706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: maybe the uk could send assange next year. < 1337717572 217368 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe they should rather be in the esoteric song contest) < 1337717588 16955 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen assange's talk show? < 1337717589 803289 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, for the Australian Entry, here's itidus21! < 1337717595 779503 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty interesting / entertaining < 1337717691 544198 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hmm, good point there ... australia <-> austria <-> switzerland <-> sweden < 1337717725 88305 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-> norway <-> denmark? < 1337717760 980099 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, scandinavia is all the same... and suddenly you're in finland and iceland too < 1337717799 878711 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway <-> netherlands <-> belgium < 1337717817 783913 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway and netherlands? not sure < 1337717827 70804 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1337717836 994411 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337717839 568815 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :belgium and brussels though < 1337717862 112027 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"which one is the country? both!" < 1337717907 12109 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luxembourg < 1337718061 11771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... austria's is sending (sent?) some people calling themselves "trackshittaz" :S < 1337718067 746207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't hear brussels was a country - yet. < 1337718109 91427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: If our lyric transtions are accurate, the song title means roughly "shake your ass". < 1337718142 562990 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :woki mit deim popo = wookie with your poo poo? < 1337718250 820717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: I only just now realized what your "euro neuro" was referring to. (I'd missed the three first, but they're doing short recaps now.) < 1337718270 939913 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337718340 967963 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337718343 752661 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-30.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337718349 685166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls ye olde norwegian hit "rumpa mi" ("my ass") < 1337718382 694358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, *rompa < 1337718388 242168 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-147-47.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337718449 730312 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am neither old nor norwegian enough to remember that < 1337718478 330650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the olde is somewhat facetious, i heard it in 2004 or 2006 while up north, i think < 1337718507 638231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hay, Finland had the longest string of "been participating but never won" (1961-2003), but we screwed that up with our 2004 win; now it's Portugal (1964-present). < 1337718536 736220 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Finland won in '06? < 1337718540 874416 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: heh, cute song < 1337718599 660126 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337718611 945411 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337718638 134763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Sorry, yes. < 1337718662 246446 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, lordi! < 1337718664 653008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misreaded the page. < 1337718671 21829 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lithuania should have won that year. < 1337718682 33378 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We are the winners! Of Eurovision! < 1337718690 67407 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :euro neuro was so stupid i think i blacked out. i just remember they guy said euro neuro. < 1337718693 828497 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1337718696 430073 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-136.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1337718724 294447 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's another retard singing about how she's gonna win this year < 1337718742 935445 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the song is absolute shit < 1337718747 39698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just going to @tell Taneb that. < 1337718756 169430 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even catchy in a trivial pop music fashion < 1337718763 394334 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just stupid < 1337718810 243879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got quite a lot of "I'm the best person ever and will win everything" lyrics, not just a single refrain. < 1337718860 70479 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily my pizza was finished before i heard much < 1337718931 854684 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they say that the euro neuro guy was a mathematician btw? i heard something about a mathematician before it but only paid attention during that word. < 1337718975 689189 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: What's austria got to do with switzerland o_O < 1337718977 928487 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337718984 980187 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: alps < 1337719018 730855 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337719022 511673 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1337719026 468865 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and having no discernible difference, except for being different countries (but who keeps track of that?) < 1337719033 411637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: His stage name is "Rambo Amadeus", which admittedly does sound quite mathematician-like. < 1337719046 452246 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a huge difference ;) < 1337719064 405232 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just too far away to notice. < 1337719079 588579 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambo_Amadeus so i guess not < 1337719092 241879 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He graduated in tourism studies from the University of Belgrade's Faculty of Mathematics and Natural Sciences. < 1337719093 6730 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: which song was the retarded i'm-gonna-win song? < 1337719102 106934 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the name. < 1337719109 38091 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a couple of songs after euro neuro < 1337719147 555273 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Austrians all speak the same language. < 1337719162 352756 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sorta envy that. < 1337719169 766775 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all speak swiss? :P < 1337719171 832025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That was Latvia's "Beautiful Song". < 1337719179 574859 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: No, german ;) < 1337719280 291062 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :disclaimer: the song may not have been quite as horrible as i implied, i just thought the topic was retarded. < 1337719291 468264 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah it certainly wasn't very good. < 1337719299 508410 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more seriously, what *is* the difference between austria and switzerland? < 1337719310 380519 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1337719312 764134 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Culture. < 1337719319 819996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The first letter. < 1337719326 362290 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language. < 1337719329 972985 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheese with holes? that's known to be swiss < 1337719334 452098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some minor differences. < 1337719343 243240 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Canada and USA < 1337719372 677108 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337719381 453957 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: We have cheese with holes, yes. < 1337719382 659204 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(austria and australia also have different cultures and languages, but they're still the same country) < 1337719465 435540 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, swedish cheese has holes too < 1337719564 589906 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Austrians" sounds like a bird species. < 1337719576 640264 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Swiss" sounds like "some guys who produce knives" < 1337719584 553848 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : . < 1337719644 616067 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, right, those knives/multitools - and the guards in the vatican are swiss < 1337719652 224084 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the poor austrians don't seem to have any distinguishing features < 1337719658 626615 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D yes @Schweizergarde < 1337719713 897172 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They carry guns under their clothes) < 1337719719 918482 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I hope so. < 1337719745 51965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they are made of guns. < 1337719745 222148 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Else it would literally be "bringing a knife to a gun fight" < 1337719778 268153 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they could be "australia without the kangaroos" or "the one with the alps but *not* the cheese, the guards in the vatican or the army knives" < 1337719807 983108 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :australia without the kangoroos sounds perfect. < 1337719821 884082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: austrians have opera < 1337719861 77381 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :opera is much more common in russia or indonesia though < 1337719882 952673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats olsner -----### < 1337719905 496112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _assume_ that's a pun, because i read austria is #1 on the music version. < 1337719973 25374 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently austria is the one that has vienna < 1337720090 378908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Denmark and Iceland have already been accepted, but we haven't. :/ < 1337720107 255729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Four more to announce.) < 1337720143 915191 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337720237 271352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scary! Only one more. < 1337720293 189860 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently prince Franz Ferdinand von Österreich-Esten, famous for starting the first world war, was austrian too < 1337720308 206919 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was going to say "he was austrian, but ironically his last name is switzerland!" but then I realized) < 1337720318 356727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, no go for us. < 1337720493 5352 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also famous for Hitler and Josef Fritz... poor austrians < 1337720539 824823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wolfgang priklopil. < 1337720550 16937 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :supposedly also famous for apfelstrudel (which I'd vaguely associate with vienna... but who keeps track of where vienna is?) and pez candy < 1337720588 973022 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Freud, apparently... but that probably doesn't help them since "everyone" "knows" he was German < 1337720921 670431 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Johann Strauss Jr. *blech* < 1337721155 81326 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :US > Austria for sure. < 1337721164 247430 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337721172 280839 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the famous musicians originated there. < 1337721203 869648 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*all good musicians < 1337721469 635990 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ironically most of them were black. < 1337721492 190393 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a dark time. < 1337721492 490534 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arnold Schwarzenegger is from Austria < 1337721503 568633 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not a musician? < 1337721505 879080 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the good musicians are from the UK < 1337721512 318399 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Like? < 1337721539 981434 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :radiohead < 1337721560 448096 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :muse < 1337721569 108353 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :franz ferdinand von not österreich < 1337721578 573933 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a Band @radiohead < 1337721581 980389 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's just recent ones < 1337721614 58804 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beatles, pink floyd, rolling stones, led zeppelin < 1337721621 784120 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the uk owns at music somehow < 1337721652 392209 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1337721663 752990 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"beatles" would be a good name for a band. < 1337721666 334632 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As kmc would say.) < 1337721682 257992 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"as kmc would say", as shachaf would say < 1337721693 27082 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yields falsehood when preceeded by its quotation < 1337721801 40665 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Louis Armstrong, Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck, Nat King Cole, Clark Terry, Robert Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, Lightnin' Hopkins, Muddy Waters, Ray Charles... < 1337721802 168606 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yielding truth when preceded by its quotation would imply that 1=0" yielding truth when preceded by its quotation would imply that 1=0 < 1337721811 970786 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :beatles, pink floyd, rolling stones and led zeppelin are of these odd bands all sucky, trivial music. < 1337721819 290163 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the even ones are ok. < 1337721829 400633 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B96B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337721908 446440 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robert Bell . < 1337721917 804536 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know any of these things. < 1337721962 32618 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's probably because you don't own a TV < 1337721979 629546 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw JOIN :#esoteric < 1337722061 107622 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Probably. < 1337722079 737387 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH < 1337722101 422149 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Have you seen _Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead_? < 1337722129 336996 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337722133 375007 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should! < 1337722135 959824 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good play. < 1337722162 287334 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-30.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You neglected Queen. (how dare you) < 1337722183 617728 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll neglect you < 1337722198 497670 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Queen Elizabeth II? < 1337722202 996237 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard of her! < 1337722206 98337 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is she a musician? < 1337722212 124701 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's UK < 1337722215 413609 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :So she's got to be. < 1337722234 524630 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-30.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, no, Her Majesty is not a musician of note. < 1337722262 466667 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-30.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though several of Her subjects are. < 1337722277 848331 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's the future and Queen Elizabeth III and Queen Elizabeth IV are going to a party held by Queen Elizabeth V. They're keen to make the right impression so it's important that they choose their outfits carefully. Queen Elizabeth III has forty dresses to choose from, where as Queen Elizabeth IV has four thousand. Queen Elizabeth V has just one dress, but it has the ability to transform itself into the shape of any dress." < 1337722299 442568 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-30.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1337722318 874286 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thachaf < 1337722332 251576 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (I watched that MPEG stream over TCP/IP so it doesn't count as television.) < 1337722342 281107 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8=d < 1337722653 873070 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1337722653 929568 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1337723145 654649 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi FireFly < 1337723147 719897 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1337723159 827618 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, hello < 1337723174 281066 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are you? < 1337723203 603945 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some random person who happens to be a bit interested in esolangs < 1337723226 831023 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in Haskell and in StackOverflow and in JavaScript? < 1337723230 124670 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coincidence? < 1337723238 242150 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1337723416 284345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337723459 628743 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Just think of all the exciting Control.Concurrent.Spawn discussions you're missing in #-blah! < 1337723600 988349 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1337723605 956391 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did my time < 1337723655 756479 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, don't be surprised if you get a GitHub Pull Request!!!!!!!! < 1337723665 251518 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"as kmc would say" < 1337723666 402148 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the situation? < 1337723693 116811 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the idea is that your primitive should be parSequence{,_} instead of parMapM{,_} < 1337723716 433562 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1337723720 965497 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also have (|*|) :: IO (a -> b) -> IO a -> IO b < 1337723766 405741 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever used that? < 1337723773 609751 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequence = mapM id, right? < 1337723783 93394 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I tested it; I don't remember using it otherwise < 1337723791 898440 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapM = sequence .: map < 1337723826 29788 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, building sequence from mapM and building mapM from sequence are about equally difficult < 1337723832 389331 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is to say, neither is difficult < 1337723943 352775 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think mapM is the more practically useful one < 1337723950 984498 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, it's the one I use more often < 1337724010 933009 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should tell Peaker before he wastes his time sending you a pull request! < 1337724014 715590 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or after. Who knows. < 1337724043 795629 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm inclined to leave it alone, unless there's some additional consideration i'm missing < 1337724046 775027 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll let him make his case :) < 1337726138 284913 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337726598 790374 :rvchangue_!~rvchangue@cpe-024-074-007-002.carolina.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337726773 62409 :rvchangue!~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337727067 159370 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337728531 603356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337728717 578077 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337729003 492789 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337729266 87934 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337729733 555522 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337729903 159076 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337730057 977539 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I learning about Warsow, it's selling point that it heavily promotes is a turn-off for mne < 1337730059 524596 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1337730212 923003 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo what selling point would that be < 1337730226 36383 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole "Movement is a skill" thing < 1337730246 674498 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What sets Warow apart from other FPS games < 1337730246 846157 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Focus on movement as a skill with various possibilities of gaining speed and moving throughout levels." < 1337730312 239139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the one hand, I like Tremulous, on the other two hands, I hate playing as alien and the community's practically dead < 1337730888 216329 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337731092 329932 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: UPDATE: Windows people still use "Unicode" to mean "UTF-16". < 1337731099 210956 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course :/ < 1337731108 107581 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's more of a non-update. < 1337731180 123682 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337731199 451924 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of a BREAKING NEWS update < 1337731200 805902 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf no, it's not even UTF-16 < 1337731209 602822 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not Unicode standard conformant < 1337731223 587392 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's loosely based on UTF-16 but also Windows homebrew stuff I was told? < 1337731253 500116 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably based on UCS-2 actually < 1337731279 841505 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway no surprise that Microsoft embraced and extended unicode < 1337731318 859413 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCS-2#Use_in_major_operating_systems_and_environments hm < 1337731360 148489 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the point of 16 bit unicode < 1337731423 81142 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the BMP includes most of the characters people actually care about < 1337731447 440969 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :characterspeoplecareabout.bmp < 1337731462 138763 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very much like ASCII includes most of the characters people actually carea bout. < 1337731464 889102 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*care about < 1337731468 33175 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :racist < 1337731543 615494 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor but it doesn't < 1337731564 444224 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :That only works for some 20% of the internet content? < 1337731637 391959 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are ok with only BMP characters, then a 16-bit encoding is simple and supports many operations efficiently < 1337731666 582456 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's "the point of 16-bit Unicode" < 1337731686 237032 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other point is that Unicode had only 16 bits of characters until about 1999 < 1337731721 245408 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it especially makes sense that the Windows NT API uses 16-bit characters < 1337731821 286558 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of unfair of Unicode, really. < 1337731859 959512 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should've used Unicode Big Endian from the start, obviously! < 1337731911 712395 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a tradition of #esoteric that if you say something dumb, we will mock you for it for months < 1337731928 297107 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey shachaf, are you still angry at that one person who I forgot the nick of who liked PHP < 1337731931 307293 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i am < 1337731932 352123 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so angry < 1337731934 694746 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who? < 1337731947 82427 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think I got angry about that at the time.) < 1337731954 79 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1337731970 117810 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Anyway, this is an intellectual sort of channel where we mock ideas, not people! < 1337731976 503287 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This makes us better than other channels. < 1337731976 738919 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1337731985 405663 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it makes our ideas better than other channels' ideas. < 1337732034 500081 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Win32 interface for getting the command line apparently gives you one long string that you have to parse yourself. < 1337732045 335128 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337732045 468805 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 bit unicode has byte order mark < 1337732048 438120 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuck < 1337732060 291243 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the POSIX interface gives you several long strings that you have to parse yourself < 1337732063 89640 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where are these slow-paced FPSes that Warsow contrasts itself with? < 1337732065 404591 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to try one < 1337732097 814983 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :play counterstrike, hide in the toilets < 1337732100 769084 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo BF/CoD/MW series < 1337732103 791367 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice slow pace < 1337732105 943026 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably < 1337732141 43784 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tremulous.net/media/files/microtrem.jpg < 1337732147 598288 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr, meh < 1337732150 529523 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never tried those < 1337732153 991539 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any of them free? < 1337732157 442823 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1337732301 252197 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Allegiance might be described as slow < 1337732307 679766 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardly popular, though < 1337732463 27739 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337732477 797257 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-30.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337733987 353695 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337735385 182036 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337735957 413858 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337735958 224641 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337736018 200389 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B96B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337736049 563554 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B96B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337736089 700655 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337736309 867880 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B96B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337736316 34384 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337736344 239196 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft seems to be working very hard to make Windows 8 suck. < 1337736419 820267 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Among other things, Microsoft is no longer providing a free Win32-targetting compiler. < 1337736466 765087 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thereby hurting the single greatest asset they have: Win32 is used by nearly everything. < 1337736545 335684 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) < 1337736629 519644 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337736991 324563 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what my code is doing is this. < 1337737006 747641 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read a byte from file A. Read a byte from file B. Read a byte from file C. Write a byte to file D. Repeat six and a half billion times. < 1337737056 506957 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that going to be as slow as it sounds like it's going to be, or is the operating system going to make it all okay? < 1337737165 624657 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're actually making a system call for every byte, it will be extremely slow < 1337737179 264573 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's Python. < 1337737182 711619 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're using the standard IO libraries of some language, they will buffer for you < 1337737220 870043 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. That's good. < 1337737239 998792 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that doesn't change the fact that this is only going at, like, a gigabyte an hour or something. < 1337737242 656274 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use strace or similar tool to confirm < 1337737264 177657 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm confused why you're asking if it will be slow, when you already know how fast it is :) < 1337737293 1559 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337737762 985312 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can explain. < 1337737801 733296 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see, it all started back in the year 428, when King Gunderic of the Vandals and Alans died and was succeeded by his half-brother Genseric. < 1337737927 118170 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes, that makes it quite clear < 1337737932 627071 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1337738342 928823 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I assume tswett wants to know if it's slow relative to what it could be. < 1337738533 754121 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337738595 10281 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a question for those familiar with Brainfuck. I'm writing a BF interpreter in C++11. How can I easily jump from a '[' to a ']' if the value at the pointer is 0? < 1337738627 286399 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, you need to be using C++12 for that. < 1337738648 461622 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, gcc hasn't implemented that yet. D: < 1337738869 933587 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337738899 639124 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any tips? Anyone? < 1337738944 967682 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop through the characters in the program < 1337738961 816016 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep a counter, increment it when you see '[', decrement when you see ']' < 1337738976 531805 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typically people maintain a table of all the matches, so when you actually run it, you just have to look it up in the table. < 1337739074 542621 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternately, you can compile those into conditional jumps, and then interpret the resulting bytecode. < 1337739091 854622 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I already know how to handle whether or not we have the right balance of []'s. < 1337739098 951708 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Beyond my skill right now. < 1337739100 675220 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337739105 28929 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How might I go about that, then? < 1337739122 586190 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: Ah, right, doing it in C++. Making parsing a bloody *pain*. < 1337739133 440474 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: that algorithm isn't just good for detecting whether brackets are balanced < 1337739137 643996 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use it to find the matching bracket < 1337739139 983791 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like i said < 1337739153 508222 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :caching those results in a table is a fine optimization, but not necessary < 1337739186 807326 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, it's perfectly workable, if slow, to just do that grepping each time you execute a [ or ]. < 1337739203 569439 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how can I go with the table, then? < 1337739298 833545 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scan the program left to right < 1337739304 10038 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you see a '[', push its index onto a stack < 1337739311 188010 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you see ']', pop the stack < 1337739340 161981 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you now have the indices of both brackets; enter those into your table(s) < 1337739363 668643 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably use a vector in such a case. < 1337739378 996699 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not a std::stack ? < 1337739384 795058 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the table? < 1337739389 859489 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, for the stack :) < 1337739411 75950 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vector is a fine choice for the table < 1337739462 327329 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can have each instruction of the BF program be a struct / object in its own right < 1337739472 66229 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make the linking of brackets be a field in that object < 1337739555 583578 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, each instruction is a lambda function stored in an unordered map. < 1337739580 828151 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling it is as easy as just instructions[program[i]], handling exceptions as necessary. < 1337739600 382422 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna add a lot of derivatives to my interpreter, this'll make it really easy to do < 1337739732 543582 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, wait. < 1337739750 474689 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why couldn't I use a std::vector as the brace stack AND the brace table? It supports push and pop operations. < 1337739771 373113 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean two vectors? or the same one for both, somehow? < 1337739799 993635 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, I see. When I finish up, it should be empty. < 1337739810 510793 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. I'd have to add things to the vector along the way. < 1337739818 817534 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, otherwise the braces are unmatched < 1337739829 178701 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with that? < 1337739852 590651 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on your reading of the brainfuck rules, it is allowed < 1337739928 184399 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337739930 829488 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could say that ] is a valid brainfuck program, because it's a conditional jump (to nowhere) which is not taken < 1337739947 790432 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly +[ < 1337739962 309078 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if there is an authoritative source on this < 1337740139 798961 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: sure, you can use a std::vector as a stack, it will work fine < 1337740177 182984 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I know *that*. I don't think we're all on the same page here, but thanks. < 1337740211 207591 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few reasons to use the container which supports only the operations you need < 1337740269 508034 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i won't list them < 1337740973 768931 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/UfLP If anyone wants to tell me how I'm being stupid, please do so. < 1337741066 700082 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reming me what static functions do in plain C < 1337741069 220871 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remind < 1337741091 284010 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't exported outside of the compilation unit. < 1337741182 646867 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1337741391 262463 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1337741471 765526 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and if you don't want to be psychic, I'm *trying* to create a Huffman table. < 1337741496 72733 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it ends up creating one, except it omits entirely a lot of characters. < 1337741621 756852 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337741709 49651 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337743435 336551 :SchrodingersCat!schrodinge@niamh.lesidhetree.com QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1337744731 459729 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1337746534 442295 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337747933 229335 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337749601 362792 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1337750475 310097 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct answer is "use a less obtuse algorithm". < 1337750534 215860 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337750778 158523 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1337750952 234153 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1337750982 867472 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337751552 679926 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1337751806 217520 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-250-234.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337751961 28908 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-107.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337760304 670737 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1337762620 402869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337763247 15763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:11 Guest28135 has joined (~T@112.215.44.136) < 1337763247 176886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337763247 195206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:11 Deewiant has left IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) < 1337763247 195368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:12 Try to check the site of cottages in BALI: www.bebaucottage.comli.com < 1337763248 601251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:12 Guest28135 has left () < 1337763250 601616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just noticed this < 1337763357 803141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:41:24: That being said, http://codu.org/hats/Cowpoke-med.jpg. < 1337763371 149791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you look so serious and world-weary < 1337763394 890396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please sing depressing songs about failure while wearing that hat < 1337763413 599102 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://programminggames.org < 1337763418 231704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:50:39: I, uh... The... I mean, this... there's this Eurovision contest thing, and this one entry is... it's about "social networks". < 1337763423 110661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: NO did I miss Eurovision??? < 1337763466 581639 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Brogue good? < 1337763471 509752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes. < 1337763478 630128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: re: on the subject of: songs about social networks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbYqDFvM0wE < 1337763482 909935 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's been talked about in here, and I just saw it mentioned in a Reddit thread < 1337763524 924215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if ais523 is still addicted to it. < 1337763534 321254 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no Brogue servers? < 1337763559 5447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you ask that days ago? < 1337763567 408029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would look pretty ugly in a terminal, anyway. < 1337763575 484942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It saves a recording file. < 1337763593 848541 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh Wikia < 1337763606 683807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need the wiki. < 1337763615 392875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game spoils everything you need to know from inside. < 1337763616 277200 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like spoilers < 1337763618 457174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game spoils everything you need to know from inside. < 1337763619 729829 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm < 1337763633 139664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. look at an enemy and you get information on how, and how fast, it can kill you. < 1337763635 738316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And vice versa.) < 1337763654 200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No spoilers required is a design goal, I think. < 1337763748 831287 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it has autoexplore < 1337763750 451273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:51:58: i don't watch tv, but i read somewhere that the uk's singer is supposedly engelbert humperdinck < 1337763757 823893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's spelled "Benedict Cumberbatch". < 1337763764 383870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The autoexplore is not really useful. < 1337763770 309163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It even has an auto-play, technically.) < 1337763786 943411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The levels are small and filled with stuff, so mostly shift+direction is what's useful. < 1337763788 427958 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah I need to resize the window < 1337763799 970470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just the first semifinal of it. < 1337763821 333310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:53:19: euro neuro < 1337763824 279406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one was great. < 1337763836 173204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is it onlinebroadcasterated? < 1337763852 923941 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I resize the window? < 1337763864 764113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: + - < 1337763870 659500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our national BBC-alike (YLE) onlinecasts it, but possibly only within Finland. But I suppose quite a few other TV companies do too? < 1337763871 35334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on the OS, technically. < 1337763875 552954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Link? < 1337763933 217950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01j741p/Eurovision_Song_Contest_2012_SemiFinal_One. < 1337763949 76970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's in your "iPlayer" too. < 1337763949 594703 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ty < 1337763957 896933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just checking for that. < 1337763965 164103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: np kthx bai kde < 1337763967 877678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ours is yle.fi/areena but it speaks Finnish only, I think. < 1337763975 317324 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, kde? < 1337763979 108865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Eurovision Song Contest: 2012: Semi-Final One' may be unsuitable for young audiences. < 1337763979 282086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I am aged 16 or older < 1337763982 403076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... < 1337763986 860226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: K Desktop Environment < 1337764004 670677 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but what is its relevence to everything else>? < 1337764007 103753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So does Finland not get it live? < 1337764010 997069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: None whatsoever. < 1337764028 365342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (Also I think Finnish narration is probably funnier.) < 1337764032 654555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presentation. Whatever. < 1337764051 438894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, yours errors for me. < 1337764054 267609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is sent live, too; it's some other part of YLE Areena where live broadcasts go, but anyway. < 1337764067 180454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337764068 972976 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The recording -- http://areena.yle.fi/tv/1525991 -- is "watchable only in Finland", according to the description. < 1337764081 954849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and the Hump himself will be here". < 1337764084 811948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, BBC. ThBBC. < 1337764106 463169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EBU.UER < 1337764132 201634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIGHT YOUR FIRE! < 1337764133 163155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correspondingly, yours doesn't work for me. "Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only." < 1337764146 725800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always forget that the problem with Eurovision is that you have to watch two hours of it. < 1337764154 850993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD EVENING EUROOOOOOOPE < 1337764170 737318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more like six hours for both semifinals and the final. < 1337764189 184114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, but those are in separate bits. < 1337764212 359871 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It will reveal its secrets to you if you wear it for 1000 turns" < 1337764213 259968 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1337764242 250116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i.e. it identifies itself. < 1337764264 503148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ("Secrets" here means "the enchantment".) < 1337764270 148025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that they can be negative.) < 1337764275 781909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is bad.) < 1337764276 519860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that message could be a little clearer. < 1337764296 36387 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, so paralysis actually has a timer thing go across the screen < 1337764296 206657 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :' < 1337764310 75204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, pretty much any effect has a meter bar. < 1337764330 731495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, the easiest way to look at dungeon features/monsters is to hover over them. And also the click-to-autotravel thing is really useful. < 1337764362 844336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:28:27: Oh hay, Finland had the longest string of "been participating but never won" (1961-2003), but we screwed that up with our 2004 win; now it's Portugal (1964-present). < 1337764364 652930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hay you! < 1337764420 999557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND LET THE EUROVISION SONG CONTEST BEGIIIIN and then one of them goes on a bit too long "IIIIN". < 1337764428 974187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AZERBAIJAN < 1337764429 29446 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Easy Mode a bad idea? < 1337764430 715414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAND OF ABUNDANCE < 1337764468 630945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I haven't played it. But I expect you'll get bored. < 1337764477 667535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first floors aren't really hard anyway. < 1337764510 498702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, Euro Neuro is first. < 1337764709 963500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:18:25: all the good musicians are from the UK < 1337764711 723887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol —the UK < 1337764783 607781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EURO NEURO MONETARY BREAK DANCE < 1337764850 280342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That was Montenegro, they've never reached the final in three attempts here on Eurovision." < 1337764851 405678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why. < 1337764857 777025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I can't see why." I can. < 1337764870 660131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, I think the presenter was being sarc— < 1337764872 677958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AZERBAIJAN < 1337764873 861769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAND OF POETRY < 1337764880 966884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :—satic. < 1337764883 7148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*astic. < 1337764904 33767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only heard a few seconds of euro neuro, but the way he says the "euro neuro" bit sounds somehow Finnish. < 1337764929 780647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You need to hear the whole thing. < 1337764932 475825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a religious experience. < 1337764960 6359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow Iceland this isn't very good. < 1337764963 639811 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is QuakeNet so popular? < 1337764986 87906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iceland qualified for the finals. < 1337764986 530217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :earthquakes < 1337764994 215015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh sorry SPOILERS. < 1337765001 375790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is just bland. < 1337765009 220167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES VIOLIN HOW ARTY < 1337765052 990809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greece had a song that was exactly like the songs they always have. < 1337765066 89009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget. < 1337765143 997352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really annoying how the vocals are always mixed to be about 2x louder than the music in Eurovision. It makes everything sound even worse. < 1337765149 696698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that might be an upside. < 1337765153 482713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's Greece time. < 1337765173 976581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did they KWALIFY? < 1337765179 793003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did their 100% RATE get RUINED? < 1337765276 662031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they did. < 1337765329 516746 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Finnish subtitles for the song lyrics are occasionally hilarious, though I don't recall really spectacular examples offhand. < 1337765393 500755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we get subtitles? I forget. < 1337765397 34354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been so long. < 1337765482 870065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Finnish announcers, only Finland and Estonia provide subtitles for the songs. < 1337765488 283291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1337765490 379336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel cheated. < 1337765511 360311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all singing your language anyway. Well, not quite all. But most. < 1337765654 162535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would she want their aphrodisiac if she's already like this? < 1337765656 773567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, this is so unrealistic. < 1337765660 948576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greece! You've failed me! < 1337765729 555029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latvia what. < 1337765748 34931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the Beautiful Song. < 1337765753 273426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was discussed. < 1337765766 763441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, they didn't qualify. < 1337765772 158173 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* what game am I downloading now < 1337765773 193502 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cube 2 < 1337765779 944763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:58:12: kmc: UPDATE: Windows people still use "Unicode" to mean "UTF-16". < 1337765783 626241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is that Big or Little Endian? < 1337765789 26122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, it's that thing? < 1337765794 509186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: This will be good. < 1337765807 785253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Hope you enjoyed your 3 minutes of Brogue. < 1337765826 735158 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think that joke was already made. < 1337765831 38394 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And discussed. < 1337765839 283875 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing a roguelike with a GUI is weird < 1337765843 93190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, those were the last lines in the log. < 1337765857 151634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's not really a "GUI". < 1337765860 391793 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: MORE LIKE A ROGUEUNLIKE, AM I RIGHT? < 1337765874 845039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like a ROGUILIKE. < 1337765889 612960 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF needs an interface like that though < 1337765890 817040 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROGUILIQUE < 1337765891 962050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:12:08: hey shachaf, are you still angry at that one person who I forgot the nick of who liked PHP < 1337765899 933963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm only angry because he hecked my aim. < 1337765977 146157 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that person. < 1337765983 559856 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so angry :'( < 1337765983 859342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:16:24: For the table? < 1337765984 32670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:16:29: no, for the stack :) < 1337765986 198538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:16:51: vector is a fine choice for the table < 1337765988 903282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You, er, don't need two. < 1337765999 375381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, you do. < 1337766005 885890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no, you don't. < 1337766006 627983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help < 1337766028 952463 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, someone draw a caricature of elliott as a donkey between two haystacks! < 1337766031 211221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:25:30: you could say that ] is a valid brainfuck program, because it's a conditional jump (to nowhere) which is not taken < 1337766031 238265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:25:47: similarly +[ < 1337766031 256489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:26:02: i don't know if there is an authoritative source on this < 1337766036 859692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: strong consensus is that it is not valid < 1337766042 310687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what the original implementation does < 1337766043 814899 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do donkeys eat hay? < 1337766089 152429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ Starts loop, flag under pointer < 1337766089 325478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :] Indicates end of loop < 1337766094 153493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the original command reference < 1337766112 990606 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if there's a needle in their haystack? < 1337766117 119069 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would they find it? < 1337766155 8490 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would they use a Brayer-Moore algorithm? < 1337766167 913538 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I was a donkey. :-( < 1337766197 835272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that the most fun thing is applying a huge patch by hand? < 1337766239 150464 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I used an exciting WINDOWS DEBUGGER today! < 1337766653 34408 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-138-110.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337766661 933866 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-250-234.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337766786 70278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we to assume that now Windows no longer has bugs? < 1337766945 39265 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so. < 1337766978 551089 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry, you can still make fun of PHP. < 1337767147 832392 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B96B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337767274 400230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I forgot to unpause Eurovision. < 1337767323 707927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Beautiful song that everybody knows, that everybody loves" < 1337767324 427124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite. < 1337767417 384160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Perhaps they're talking about some other hypothetical song? < 1337767421 882183 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to have the impression that all these FPSes are the exact same damn game < 1337767463 972667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is Albania's good? < 1337767474 946607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you've got any pets, you might want to put them in another room." < 1337767475 958139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds it. < 1337767493 500035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUUS < 1337767523 231351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Her hair is... interesting. < 1337767642 518298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is the best one so far on the sole basis of not sounding predictable. < 1337767706 139862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why can't UK viewers vote??? < 1337767715 602471 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should just play whatever game all these games are based on < 1337767723 650708 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quake 3 Arena I think? Is that free/ < 1337767724 196351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"UK VIEWERS DO NOT VOTE IN THIS SEMI FINAL: Your vote won't count and you may be charged." < 1337767812 501611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The waterline could be anything you want it to be." < 1337767823 161106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I actually... grab... ass." < 1337767855 613060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "I can't do it. I can't do it at all." "Why are you here then?" "...it is mystery!" --Euro Neuro guy. < 1337767874 890892 :cheater!~cheater@g229021157.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337767917 779094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1337767940 724204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ban evasion ^ < 1337767944 839338 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if anyone plays openArena < 1337767993 734057 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 players on right now < 1337768035 843670 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HINT: Every disc covers at least one rational point, so you can't have more discs on a plane than rationals. < 1337768078 349735 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337768102 245506 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337768104 985269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oklopol already spoiled the answer, anyway. < 1337768123 32248 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoklopol < 1337768623 339338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is elliott eurovision < 1337768632 762936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't everyone eurovision < 1337768681 313198 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1337768691 706627 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that the Molvania thing? < 1337770992 669640 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B96B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337771064 251566 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337771311 223574 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337772074 473290 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1337773746 291969 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337773833 810738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337773859 180045 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337773951 748381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back Phantom_Hoover we missed you < 1337773958 483674 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337773967 138864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1337774054 179446 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337774159 668100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back Phantom_Hoover we missed you < 1337774357 956402 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many times has Phantom_Hoover died? < 1337774377 41086 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 < 1337774377 635083 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, he should really be Phantom^n_Hoover < 1337774392 897044 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make that 11. < 1337774405 559279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337774479 180142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337776546 814583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Your country's music is weird. < 1337776618 469666 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Your country's music is weird. < 1337777283 218952 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has decided to refer to everyone in the third person < 1337777312 869648 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no real reason for doing so other than the awkwardness of above lines where he referred to Phantom_Hoover in the third person. < 1337777334 110082 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should sleep < 1337777475 401966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo < 1337777491 66347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the third person is the normal way to refer to other people if you're not directly addressing them < 1337777529 922678 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks it was awkward that he was not directly addressing Phantom_Hoover though, although Phantom_Hoover was right there. < 1337778000 131185 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-105.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1337778578 964805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome ogrom < 1337778587 972446 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogrom: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337778625 30503 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-105.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337778718 41787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yooooooo fix this bug for me < 1337779185 126753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one where people think this is an esoterica channel? < 1337779267 352130 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mouse battery dead < 1337779322 478449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the other bug. < 1337779409 896550 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found some batteries < 1337779424 29986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You should fix the bug for me. < 1337779431 463067 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What bug? < 1337779464 379860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spellcast aiming in tiles is a bit weird. < 1337779484 306711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: < 1337779485 472305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (is_exclude_root(gc)) < 1337779485 646395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : mf = MF_EXCL_ROOT; < 1337779486 298215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : else if (is_excluded(gc)) < 1337779488 300099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : mf = MF_EXCL; < 1337779488 684077 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know what game this is, and I don't know what "weird" is < 1337779494 621703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: See, it's practically garbage collection code. < 1337779496 347582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Crawl. < 1337779510 436254 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1337779513 8020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "weird" is "it omits most of two rows of the target except one square is included in the second-last row". < 1337779622 559670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess I'll check beam.cc again... < 1337779648 619025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And dungeon.cc (maybe), glwrapper.cc (doubtful), item_use.cc, spl-cast.cc, spl-util.cc. < 1337779658 309432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also tilereg-spl.cc. < 1337779664 280272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And tilereg.cc. < 1337779668 999949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And viewgom.cc, viewmap.cc. < 1337779758 978906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not dungeon.cc. < 1337779827 131332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: Perhaps suggest showing success percentage rather than failure percentage. < 1337779838 8862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also check out why it says 0 for <= 2. < 1337779843 530847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in spl-cast.cc, failure_rate_to_string) < 1337779891 824558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other things to check: the Fire Storm-specific code. < 1337780684 943260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checked spl-cast.cc, on to spl-util.cc. < 1337780757 446153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (flags & SPFLAG_TARGETING_MASK) < 1337780759 896282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, grep for this too. < 1337780873 42839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :// FUNCTION APPLICATORS: Idea from Juho Snellman < 1337780873 219154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :// on the Roguelike News pages, Development section. < 1337780873 237401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :// < 1337780874 621787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, the arcane magicks of functions that TAKE OTHER FUNCTIONS AS PARAMETERS AND APPLY THEM. < 1337780887 410959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :// Applies the effect to all nine squares around/including the target. < 1337780887 577288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :// Returns summation of return values from passed in function. < 1337780887 595481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :// Applies the effect to the eight squares beside the target. < 1337780888 992287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :// Returns summation of return values from passed in function. < 1337780890 992427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aha* < 1337780898 331949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO: Look into adjacent_iterator. < 1337780921 138381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except this doesn't explain why it only happens in tiles, gah! Grep for uses of apply_area_square, apply_area_around_square.) < 1337780932 579065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also apply_area_within_radius.) < 1337780939 107824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But that uses radius_iterator, so...) < 1337781589 36051 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-226.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337781593 349504 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337781930 589297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, on to tilereg-spl.cc. < 1337781944 363791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. < 1337781950 182395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO: Come back to tilereg-spl.cc. < 1337781958 77723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :On to tilereg.cc. < 1337782255 795362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO: Come back to tilereg.cc. < 1337782299 731541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done viewgom.cc. < 1337782429 822894 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337782698 20694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not viewmap.cc, by the looks of it. < 1337782715 713442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO: Check dungeon.cc, glwrapper.cc, item_use.cc; do those greps, and check back on the things. < 1337782727 70171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not item_use. < 1337782786 491816 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337782872 971986 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I keep trying different FPSes? < 1337782877 112174 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all the same < 1337782941 300996 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not? < 1337782964 843365 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like they're mostly just different themes < 1337782968 285162 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few exceptions < 1337782974 490013 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're going to claim TF2, CoD-alikes and HL2 are all the same... < 1337782980 272308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: just like 3D virtual world games, then? < 1337783003 303124 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hitman 5 looks real good. < 1337783020 915697 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never thought i'd want to play a hitman game, but this one is compelling. < 1337783036 877890 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what CoD is like < 1337783046 668286 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think these are all Quake [123] like < 1337783048 736456 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1337783055 466609 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quake 4 was fun < 1337783061 580389 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in its own simple way < 1337783065 413108 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not based on what I know of Quake. < 1337783086 5025 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, but quake 1 had a totally different storyline to quake 3! < 1337783091 520649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quake is about fast movement, aiming to account for that and dodging. < 1337783131 776131 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, Xonotic, World of Padman, Warsow, Urban Terror (probably), < 1337783150 991410 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tremulous at least has base building and an alien team < 1337783190 440020 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're trying open-source FPSes, I seem to recall that like all of them are built on the Quake engine. < 1337783193 8035 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh now they have also made an unreal tournament clone on the crysis engine called Nexuiz or something < 1337783222 945605 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that's what I meant < 1337783262 6158 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... yeah, there aren't any well-known FOSS FPSes. < 1337783277 235560 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if America's Army is fun < 1337783286 854894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't play us army propaganda < 1337783288 46255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :love, elliott < 1337783305 157257 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Hopefully* that Source port is real and will arrive fairly soon. < 1337783314 443096 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, aren't you banned? < 1337783369 631619 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i am not < 1337783380 636596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:28 Reply(367): #esoteric *!*@g230223105.adsl.alicedsl.de ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 1337155762 < 1337783409 324306 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed ais just unbanned me, since i hadn't rebooted my modem < 1337783423 138834 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hey, America's Army has those crazy level designs. < 1337783446 509357 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait the guy redid that in portal 2 < 1337783469 734515 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what games have similar play to AA/ < 1337783480 721973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, I don't think it was intended to be temporary. < 1337783535 881555 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* nothing to lose life over < 1337783536 677048 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, well assuming it's an ultra-realistic military sim, ARMA 2? < 1337783539 260593 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between Quake III Arena and Unreal Tournament? < 1337783551 1345 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :physics, weapons balance. < 1337783563 689618 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :some new team modes in UT that didn't pick up that much < 1337783650 453904 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, free version has no support for mods o.O < 1337783685 862123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: FSVO ultra-realistic. < 1337783712 458013 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm mostly interested in strategic stuff < 1337783712 794425 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, um the sunken city of R'lyeh is one of the future battlegrounds for democracy. < 1337783715 726275 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it tactical? < 1337783780 340293 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wish that the first place I had heard of Arma 2 from wasn't some religious nut's YouTube channel < 1337783800 699474 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that video actually had nothing to do with religion, except for the stuff in the description < 1337783875 198701 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well um I didn't play it for long but seeing as it takes about 3 shots to put you down and combat is pretty long ranged, I'm guessing it's tactical. < 1337784183 973407 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 Pentagonal Dreams < 1337784225 141488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excuse me it must only be called The Enigma Menu Song (RIP; Will Be Missed). < 1337784250 329958 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-5.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1337784257 782127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome ogrom < 1337784260 268919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The welcomes, they never stop. < 1337784262 429575 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogrom: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337784278 978937 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-5.elisa.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1337784280 164686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pentagonal Dreams? < 1337784289 195691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You know, the thing that used to be the Enigma menu music. < 1337784294 694786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=73118 This thing. < 1337784368 889944 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ycI_zz1jo&t=9m47s < 1337784387 58072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: um no that is a false god. < 1337784391 555324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only Enigma is allowed to use that music. < 1337784616 989565 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's gone from all versions of Enigma, not just Debian's or something? < 1337784620 125823 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, http://youtu.be/bQ4lLu4huzQ < 1337784623 625555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, all. < 1337784672 771315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: But it was removed from Debian's first, I think. < 1337785013 913867 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337785209 204832 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@125.34.214.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337785209 224153 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@125.34.214.176 QUIT :Changing host < 1337785209 224275 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1337785277 521198 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why was it removed? < 1337785319 794217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: They didn't have a license for it. < 1337785326 718863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather, it was non-free. < 1337785329 213917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was just "freely redistributable" or something, I think. < 1337786348 710264 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does haskell have no function to count elements of a list matching a predicate? < 1337786396 106665 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :length . any < 1337786397 435128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Because it's a trivial composition of existing functions: < 1337786399 111621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :length . filter p < 1337786428 31174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION awaits the kmc "trivial" police. < 1337786475 478054 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle any < 1337786475 710087 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude any :: (a -> Bool) -> [a] -> Bool < 1337786475 780814 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List any :: (a -> Bool) -> [a] -> Bool < 1337786475 799122 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Monoid Any :: Bool -> Any < 1337786481 854778 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337786486 347881 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337786527 548282 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but length . filter is inefficient < 1337786532 427869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Untrue. < 1337786543 844329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: If you think it makes two passes over the list, it doesn't (and you need to refine your understanding of non-strict evaluation). < 1337786563 694864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :From an operational point of view, length forces each cell of the list as it goes along it ,causing the computation in filter, and so on. < 1337786565 933764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it, causing < 1337786579 55174 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :blargh < 1337786583 700098 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot about lazy eval again < 1337786586 589874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That also means that once it passes a cell, it can be garbage-collected, but you'd need an awfully large list of booleans for that to matter.) < 1337786592 832869 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep doing that after not programming Haskell for >1 week < 1337786597 316724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It does wonders for efficient composition :) < 1337786604 376097 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I know < 1337786616 978359 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written non-trivial stuff before where efficiency mattered :) < 1337786627 315883 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where infinite lists were involved < 1337786633 985130 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so getting the order of evaluation right was important < 1337786670 279097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mon-util.h:47: error: ‘int8_t’ does not name a type < 1337786672 39460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I broke... something. < 1337786887 806753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Did you know that Crawl considers squares a type of circle? < 1337786903 279182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, the circle_def class will assume you mean a square circle unless you specify otherwise. < 1337787022 655639 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to a circular circle < 1337787028 33437 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, can you hear thunder? < 1337787043 379296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... think I did, yes. < 1337787053 290805 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1337787141 628375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder? / You better run, you better take cover. < 1337787175 74273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the famous Scottish anthem. < 1337787176 500335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, Phantom_Hoover? < 1337787191 673969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337787243 190587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though it was from that song about Austria. < 1337787313 636884 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard it was about Mexico. < 1337787329 878003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You mean Switzerland. < 1337787556 372620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To spoil the joke: Wikipedia once referred to Men at Work as a "Scottish-Australian" band and this was relevant somehow when I was talking to Phantom_Hoover.) < 1337787609 799566 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two cities the song names are brussels and bombay. Hence it must be about the Dutch Empire in Indea < 1337787616 355516 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*India < 1337788429 557022 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, APPARENTLY YOU HAVE PLAYED WORLDS < 1337788456 496955 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, this is correct. < 1337788463 468063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqel0k0NzNU < 1337788467 184836 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAS IT ANYTHING LIKE THIS < 1337788509 126142 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been to many of those places < 1337788540 174910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And these days no one is anywhere but the entry area < 1337788606 321013 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KEEP WATCHING < 1337788620 708411 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO: note the data. < 1337788623 473297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*date < 1337788660 587061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, the I have to take a piss scene and what's going to happen after that? < 1337788679 4806 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just < 1337788681 88850 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of it < 1337788700 702086 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That maze is not put together in a physically possible way. < 1337788716 7553 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can end up seeing yourself < 1337788729 794433 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm guessing this was unusual. < 1337788757 700428 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1337788773 329445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing the areas depicted are not the norm. < 1337788792 618391 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them area < 1337788794 339612 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are < 1337788802 451707 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bathroom with its maze < 1337788814 858191 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, hmm < 1337788825 28208 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by norm? < 1337788830 308991 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Worlds. < 1337788847 28801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, just keep watching, it gets hella weird. < 1337788918 16871 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's just a cube" < 1337788922 164883 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on you can't find the maze? < 1337788928 883408 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Worlds, Inc seems to be fond of weird mazes < 1337788936 141785 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an invisible maze in that room < 1337788979 226551 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The beach is not a place that Worlds, Inc built, but it's the most common hangout now < 1337788995 465000 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, both it and the normal starting area have overlapping chat < 1337789035 119437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, two worlds, but someone who is in one is visible in another as though they're there.... well, two worlds sharing one ... chatters and their locations thing < 1337789111 81912 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know cel-shading was possible in Worlds < 1337789150 533741 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the weird colored purple and yellow walls are the colors of the walls of the default room when one makes a new room < 1337789216 598277 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I did not type that" < 1337789238 995541 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Individual's Worlds can force people to say things I think < 1337789292 678152 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This place looks user-created < 1337789304 251808 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to know who made it, by that beach there's a list of user-made worlds < 1337789314 71635 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this place is active, it's likely listed there < 1337789320 619733 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... think < 1337789328 889068 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the beach's list might not have been updated < 1337789380 47876 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Walk into myself" < 1337789394 521680 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An easy effect, two portals, one as a mirror one as not < 1337789436 83349 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW ARE THESE PLACES SO POPULATED? < 1337789457 314390 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1337789457 528044 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The walking in space thing is used on the Meteor for some reason < 1337789466 681236 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walking between the Meteor and the Avatar Gallery < 1337789470 97213 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1337789510 297536 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The place with the elevator looks like a mockery of a Worlds Inc world < 1337789582 8860 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spy worlds tend to be like that, but I don't think this is a spy world < 1337789588 559285 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, sorry for the chatter < 1337789633 135942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is unforgivable. You will be exterminated. < 1337789670 395490 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hmms at the forced av changes < 1337789677 489939 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not something I was aware was possible. < 1337789681 617992 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voluntary av changes, yes < 1337789731 178510 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-5.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1337789857 238740 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I can always give you a tour of Worlds, although I do not know many of those places < 1337789881 780365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, AAAAA YOU'RE ONE OF THEM < 1337789912 879640 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scariest thing I'm likely to do to you is enter a mirror < 1337789978 290335 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I might need to give you the download link, the website is broken :( < 1337790132 431759 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arma 2 wanted me to press the enter key on my numpad < 1337790138 530594 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an enter key on my numpad < 1337790141 288373 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1337790230 451572 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there's a place called the Gauntlet < 1337790247 687594 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You go into one room, you see a window into a world. The next room, new window, different world < 1337790250 612935 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1337790260 433761 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you see windows into all the builtin worlds < 1337790277 771680 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was made for technical reasons but isn't necessary anymore. Still cool though) < 1337790649 25116 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-138-110.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337790649 80287 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-144-188.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337790654 779011 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O just saw a video that was an official place but I've never seen < 1337790659 604871 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been in the Sports pod < 1337790713 992514 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool video Phantom_Hoover < 1337790734 960726 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNDa4y3pSo looks like more of a tour of the official worlds < 1337790737 81198 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im only at 2:50 so far.. < 1337790763 331208 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it.. none of this boring second life crap < 1337790827 808753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, uh < 1337790838 598726 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hookstone also trapped. His soul will never be free. < 1337790843 771294 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Second Life, multiple people can build in the same place < 1337790853 305678 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK so guessing the creepiness was just kind of a thing in the community. < 1337790862 216069 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I... guess? < 1337790867 315937 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITIDUS IS ONE OF THEM OH GOD < 1337790870 911618 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?? < 1337790880 557464 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, look at video I linked starting at 39 minutes < 1337790884 161474 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahhhhhhhhhh < 1337790905 132050 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337790936 316265 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/m < 1337790955 637641 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gdsgewyedws have been hoiedwied < 1337790958 566938 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it so easy to miss the weird parts of the maze < 1337790985 661339 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337790998 468517 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it shows more of the maze < 1337791015 694033 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oho, the Toilet of Mystery! < 1337791018 681119 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1337791024 85342 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the deal with this maze? < 1337791035 547304 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well.. i do like weird though < 1337791056 506661 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there are a lot of portals in it, basically. < 1337791063 456301 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worlds uses portals a lot < 1337791072 550098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gathered. < 1337791110 989858 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like qwop, i liked the stupid conspiracy theories until i started to realize people were actually haunted by such ideas day to day < 1337791185 357638 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there is fun happy weird and theres austrian basement weird < 1337791191 921101 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like fun happy weird < 1337791226 838846 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, all those "Need to download a world" dialogs in that video are obsolete < 1337791234 300839 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that was the problem the Gauntlet was intended to solve < 1337791241 603362 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One place where you deal with all of that garbage < 1337791471 906336 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there's a Sadness pod < 1337791529 403620 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-254-156.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337791530 958807 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadness... pod? < 1337791548 33314 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-144-188.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337791561 1748 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Worlds Center has these pod offshoots < 1337791566 342416 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Little cute worlds < 1337791589 989806 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not "cute" < 1337791596 25046 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a space station < 1337791607 774327 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You walk around it, then go to this arm that's part of the space station < 1337791613 309412 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's a "Skydoor" to a world < 1337791620 748075 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there's a Sadness world < 1337791631 896868 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Right near the Glee world) < 1337791638 825017 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's Glee as in the emotion < 1337791666 108245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs Glee when you have Hanson? < 1337791671 670883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q.E.Q. < 1337791707 440938 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is that a random remark, or did you see Hanson in one of the videos? < 1337791716 635202 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there's a bunch of Hanson stuff for some reason. < 1337791719 919908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqel0k0NzNU < 1337791736 542479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're missing out if you stopped watching it. < 1337791821 315127 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to see if I can find the hand garden < 1337791887 307887 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was certainly weird < 1337791897 712327 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I felt nothing weird about it < 1337791979 274576 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know several videos have been posted so just to clarify, i felt that the vine sauce worlds exploration video was weird < 1337792000 534909 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its interesting that you don't < 1337792015 821908 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a "Halloween Ground Zero" < 1337792018 580849 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a "Worlds Hell" < 1337792101 469527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yeah, a creepy-looking dog thing that tells you they want to show you were they were born and then takes you to a glaringly-bright cartoon world with a bunch of animal sprites and then to a weird messed-up world and makes you say things about Jesus dying on the cross or whatever and then turns you into a skeleton and then turns you into a weird mechanical-looking thing when you walk out isn't weird at all. < 1337792110 572823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happened to me the other day. < 1337792131 16466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creepy looking dog is one of the built-in avs < 1337792144 716855 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :User-made worlds can force people to say things < 1337792153 828925 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : :-D < 1337792157 839989 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ... I'm not sure about the forcibly changing someone's av. That's bizarre. < 1337792161 988591 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try it < 1337792182 202186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: To clarify: things can be weird without being seemingly-impossible. < 1337792193 432169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone making that world and then doing that to random people is weird. < 1337792208 791353 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337792300 203528 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....Sista_ClickMe < 1337792306 400440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"makes you say things about Jesus dying on the cross or whatever" <- um the phrase is "He died for our sins... I see no nails..." < 1337792324 241257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I didn't *read* it! And it was multiple lines; you can see them in the video. < 1337792325 914241 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Posable (avatar without an attached real person or bot) < 1337792335 778465 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Called Sista_Clickme < 1337792341 464091 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clickme is totlally the best name ever < 1337792341 852904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you click it? < 1337792343 708427 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Clickme < 1337792346 288728 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1337792350 931465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened. < 1337792351 203725 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the text "He died for our sins... I see no nails..." itself weird? < 1337792370 370785 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes because of the religious undertones that don't actually make sense. < 1337792371 467986 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sista_ClickMe> Come along Cap, we may be nuns but we still know sexy thighs when we see them ;) < 1337792380 793603 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1337792382 487052 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya rhetorical question :-D < 1337792390 960497 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what was said when I clicked Sista_ClickMe < 1337792402 283283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clickme: :D < 1337792408 721832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best sista. < 1337792429 306315 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: fwiw i'm not one of them in the sense i haven't used worlds < 1337792442 883736 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have second-lifed in the past for a short while < 1337792474 791212 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337792481 322605 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of newbie avatars in a cage < 1337792487 355421 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clicking them causes them to ask things like ASL < 1337792522 207909 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to restart Worlds then go back there < 1337792525 755241 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can actually copy/paste < 1337792543 682088 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worlds Hell is fun < 1337792643 92706 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gardenGnostic is here < 1337792656 40785 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, someone registerd with that named < 1337792842 974644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337792877 519987 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone mentioned Onion Vortex < 1337792912 61369 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it was in the video < 1337792966 857091 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Onion Vortex just put words in my mouth < 1337792978 806407 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sgeo> you know my nanme? the word of goD..click the orange disc" < 1337793050 587030 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, this is totally the place < 1337793110 549872 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loving how you think this is totally normal. < 1337793175 935175 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The list of user-made worlds even calls it ! Weird ! < 1337793182 319891 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As did the person who pointed it out to mne < 1337793202 904243 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1337793203 56743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1337793206 904460 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337793211 782309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye Taneb < 1337793212 980457 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337793221 463310 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'll bring you here < 1337793229 953269 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :ais523 > 1337793230 8478 NAMES :#esoteric < 1337793232 806871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 KICK #esoteric cheater :User terminated! < 1337793239 106612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric -o :ais523 > 1337793239 129138 NAMES :#esoteric < 1337793257 310133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at cheater's messages, he doesn't seem to have improved his behaviour at all < 1337793266 178086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told chanserv to kickban him if he turns up again < 1337793273 186329 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heaven is closed < 1337793276 107455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks < 1337793298 557071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clickme: Wait, Phantom_Hoover is playing? < 1337793310 832275 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1337793311 706510 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no < 1337793317 395077 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I plan on dragging him here < 1337793341 952246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll play!!!! < 1337793343 265742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work in wine < 1337793364 136409 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure < 1337793406 942099 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's discouraging < 1337793419 590500 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asked someone who would be likely to know < 1337793423 379537 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no i tried it" < 1337793428 778339 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i used virtual box on linux" < 1337793430 674301 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and xp" < 1337793440 395489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game? < 1337793445 153140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's so amazingly not worth it. < 1337793459 138159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Worlds, one of those awful 90s 3D virtual reality games < 1337793502 988825 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is apparently still around a dozen years later? < 1337793517 692608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Can you imagine being an employee? < 1337793530 38327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they come to the office every day and pretend it's still the dot-com era. < 1337793551 763067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Maybe they sit at their desks all day and hold meetings in a virtual office. < 1337793557 532781 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know my name? the word of goD..click the orange disc < 1337793562 667594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337793565 993003 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, they're a patent troll < 1337793582 764447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clickme: Well, that's just patent trolling! < 1337793615 743365 :Clickme!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1337793620 907219 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..in the name of the father < 1337793623 484132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337793644 397438 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..his son.. < 1337793649 561105 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..and the holy spirit..amen.... < 1337793660 414030 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..look at him there..do walk closer and see what you have done.. < 1337793673 973142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337793679 164453 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337793686 626376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help :( < 1337793693 642221 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..how the blood from his wounds flow so easily in your mind when you, yes you drive that evil spirit through his side.. < 1337793697 154278 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are in an irc channel < 1337793700 95934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337793700 637894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1337793702 181182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks coppro < 1337793704 753173 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..he died for your Sin.....I see no nails.. < 1337793705 893873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you helped me < 1337793706 900312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you helped me a lot < 1337793707 29602 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :available exist are north, south, and dennis < 1337793715 365804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dennis < 1337793730 849148 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault (core dumped) < 1337793748 594114 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You meant "go dennis" < 1337793749 285686 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duh < 1337793766 221350 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be unable to leave this room < 1337793781 8483 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one window with INRA out the side on the cross < 1337793786 589746 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, INRI < 1337793814 559598 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I needed to walk along the wall < 1337793862 939001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When uppercased, Sin is that dude in Final Fantasy X. < 1337793865 522771 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "dude". < 1337793867 92653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing. < 1337793871 793691 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, this place weirds me out < 1337793925 168990 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be trapped. I'm going to go to hell < 1337794002 477566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: FINALLY you acknowledge something is weird about it :P < 1337794053 966112 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Host-Jaguar> Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! I guess that's what you get for having a/s/l down as a hate in your info! < 1337794064 306831 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He's caged in with the ASL asking newbies) < 1337794176 169622 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been here before < 1337794183 69665 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a naked male av with a sign as a censor < 1337794390 947443 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hanson world has a Science Room < 1337794427 235314 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's a school < 1337794464 15649 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This totally makes sense to someone somewhere < 1337794484 461565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand less than half of what's going on here. < 1337794494 135411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337794495 956314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot more than I do < 1337794524 771086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "less than half" really establishes a lower bound. < 1337794543 918069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't understand your line, either :( < 1337794577 326166 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, http://worlds.com < 1337794579 912296 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have Windows < 1337794590 602229 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the download might not work < 1337794594 906319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't think I dare. < 1337794613 893298 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337794672 247915 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme find the download link that the tech support person emailed me < 1337794704 668563 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://worlds3.worlds.com/WorldsPlayerWin7.exe < 1337794730 19043 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a WWF world < 1337794767 432374 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always forget, is that a wrestling thing or a protect-nature thing? < 1337794803 909653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :both, except the former is WWE now < 1337794808 220879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the latter, I think < 1337794820 915952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus ends the sum total of my knowledge of WWF/WWE < 1337794925 587353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am Prof.Elvis H. AJAH., the Director in charge of Treasury Department, -- You are to reply through this my official alternative email address(info.bceaoobanque@yahoo.co.za) for security reasons." Sounds legit! < 1337794942 133595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure Prof. Elvis has my security in mind. < 1337795433 605667 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got an email asking if I wanted a job in the mining industry. < 1337795439 809362 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Movin' on up! < 1337795523 803216 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mining coal or data or diamonds? < 1337795648 170152 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worlds apparently saw a surge of people last night < 1337795650 241322 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to that video < 1337795665 607110 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337795673 737617 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just watched the 45min video < 1337795865 292009 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is TinyXP an option? < 1337795870 799710 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1337795880 711001 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, you guys aren't running windows xp < 1337795985 220265 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BowieWorld is a trip" < 1337796013 447187 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337796042 343464 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worlds has patented proprietry technology? i can imagine the kind of innovation < 1337796049 808178 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337796102 745503 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie. none < 1337796199 435365 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that sounds actually trivial to me < 1337796209 188462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: \o/ < 1337796209 843694 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       | < 1337796210 21908 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      /< < 1337796212 535330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean I win? < 1337796219 297336 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337796286 662020 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i wonder how many times navyboy said "I don't" during that video < 1337796357 417206 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like he lacked any conceptual infrastructure to understand what he was doing < 1337796626 227906 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337796649 789635 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a name for keys that are only tapered on two sides? < 1337796688 303201 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i really enjoyed that though. i would like to make software like that < 1337796816 271343 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not happy with the idea that anything i saw there was innovative enough for patents though < 1337796836 421797 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some optimized algorithm implementations perhaps < 1337797056 533349 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was not expecting to see a topless woman' < 1337797215 799042 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found the walking skeletons < 1337797598 88766 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just walked through the entire alien/skeleton/robot/pegasus adventure < 1337797872 411894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it glorious. < 1337797923 611286 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I more or less knew what to expect < 1337797934 140040 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stole the avs, so now I can be a skeleton or robot thingy anytime I want < 1337797941 201932 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't think to take the alien avs, but I can < 1337797983 753370 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skeleton: avatar:dude.0EC__C__C__C__C__T7gltLbMbOaRbUbVaWeXeYIeJeKBbPeGbonesSHHH.rwg < 1337797991 521422 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robot thingy: avatar:sty.0ET4bfyC_AC_NC_UC0j0C0F0C0Z0PaGdudeSMMM1cG3birdieSMMMBGxIbGbitmanSmmmJb1cG3birdieSmmmKbWbGbitmanSmmmXb1cG3birdieSmmmYbNGxHbGdalek0a1a2a3a4cShhh5D0eD0fD0gD0fShhh6Shhh7D0dD0cD0cD0cShhh1bG3achooSy0ySm0y.rwg < 1337797992 31938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :call the skeleton Malaria please < 1337798004 515079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*malaria < 1337798010 347338 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should have a BF busy beaver competition. like, see who can write the program which prints the most characters in a given number of program characters (enough to allow complex programs, not enough to allow programs that would run until the universe ends) < 1337798038 822784 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can run 'till the universe ends in 3 characters < 1337798055 592935 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: busy beaver implies the program must halt < 1337798067 361492 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite loops would be disqualified < 1337798088 829380 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how can you know if a program will halt? < 1337798093 810390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't. < 1337798104 685529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The onus is on you to prove that your program counts. < 1337798137 666796 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm.. < 1337798141 482170 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like an annoying competition < 1337798163 26242 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1337798176 146933 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also sounds like a difficult puzzle < 1337798183 587276 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't listen to me, for i am not a math guy < 1337798186 864582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That was done with C programs. < 1337798190 333503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't kmc link to that? < 1337798191 973388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it was shachaf. < 1337798196 893391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The entries were beautiful. < 1337798222 400789 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i would love tosee it < 1337798240 634655 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that the busy beaver sequence is not just uncomputable, but it grows faster than any computable sequence < 1337798253 547539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's why I pinged shachaf for you < 1337798255 912871 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. so the idea is bf programs which print out a set of +-<>[],. ? < 1337798281 401709 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops no no i got confused < 1337798382 830702 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hug~♪ < 1337798606 695115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK , < 1337798609 282190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*OK, beam.determine_affected_cells time. < 1337798733 201471 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how does one obtain non-computable data.. does that rely on externalities? < 1337798751 919795 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brute force, I believe < 1337798769 410778 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh.. so brute force isn't counted as computation? :D < 1337798779 553331 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: whats the reduction for that proof? i cant find it < 1337798788 557034 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if it's done by professional computer science people < 1337798793 176676 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe < 1337798795 140311 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it goes to halting problem, but not how < 1337798796 322884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Huh? < 1337798813 713383 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than computers? < 1337798823 565726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's computable whether some data is the non-computable data, and the non-computable data is finite, then the data is computable. < 1337798863 900235 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiee < 1337798867 330859 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need the professional computer science people to figure out if it halts or not < 1337798871 448637 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337798887 456712 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should stop using words i really don't understand < 1337798907 151057 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should stop making things up to sound clever < 1337798935 279944 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337798980 991174 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres plenty of words i do understand. < 1337799003 309050 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1337799007 441281 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured it out < 1337799009 40008 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: if you had a computable upper bound for busy beaver, you could solve the halting problem < 1337799013 36414 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337799018 945102 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just run the program as long as the bound says < 1337799033 123484 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just run a program until your upper bound was reached.if it hasnt halted, it wont < 1337799049 71271 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what *bsd os would you recomend for novice bsd user that has used other kind of unixes for 6 years < 1337799097 446872 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(looking at wiki) just consult an oracle for the values of S(n) < 1337799285 725158 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by "grows faster" we mean that for any computable sequence A, there is some k such that for all n>k, BusyBeaver[n] > A[n]) < 1337799328 515509 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337799360 736227 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337799458 651299 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: linux? :> < 1337799505 658382 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it would be fun to be a firmware engineer < 1337799510 608466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was considering saying "Linux". :( < 1337799559 948770 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can never decide what "system" engineer or developer means < 1337799606 796623 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Linux doesn't seem to be bsd os < 1337799634 435525 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it seems to mean putting widgets together into flying gadgets (like, hardware stuff), other times it seems to mean either high-level stuff, very low-level stuff (i.e. systems programming as in C), other times building vast networks of crud screens in Java < 1337799665 426557 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm under the impression that Free is the most mainstreamy of them. < 1337799694 668012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: You should ask Chris for his opinions. < 1337799697 985661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell him Elliott sent you. < 1337799707 526253 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: sweden is australia, so linux is also bsd < 1337799723 916298 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: where can I find him < 1337799759 889336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, http://catseye.tc/. But maybe you shouldn't actually do that. < 1337799767 6172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, what the hell, go for it. < 1337799794 351136 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, here was an ad for a "development engineer" < 1337799813 574250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I was kidding.) < 1337799943 872210 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things I have a hard time with: jobs with "senior" in the title < 1337799944 58930 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337799954 41192 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1337799978 955614 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can never decide whether I'd like to call myself senior, or whether it's maybe a bad thing to get involved in < 1337800000 17021 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, 17. Worked for me < 1337800004 353458 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The "biggest number" C program? < 1337800015 412860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1337800016 762270 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: thanks, 13 to you < 1337800065 537757 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't remember the URL. < 1337800087 335811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Thanks. < 1337800100 285159 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you really want it I can look it up this evening. < 1337800111 550581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, quintopia is the one who'd appreciate it. < 1337800120 631607 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: If you really want it I can look it up this evening. < 1337800147 84768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok thx < 1337800158 853072 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea was that you have pseudo-C with an unlimited-size int, and you're supposed to write a function that returns the biggest possible int in under 512 bytes. < 1337800210 186247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337800215 953337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1337800246 662547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1337800253 764863 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1337800504 448692 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worlds is seeing a surge of people < 1337800511 538883 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a good thing in my opinion < 1337800528 232180 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's all because of that video < 1337801055 747733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why, in Java, setAccessible works on things like java.lang.Integer < 1337801073 379971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can apparently modify Integers to be redefinable, then redefine them < 1337801340 74036 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"byte sex" < 1337801349 914454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337801374 84486 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :byte sex < 1337801388 380903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337801434 490226 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :another term for byte endiangness < 1337801448 250250 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-g < 1337801462 170375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1337801475 65154 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEX_(computing) < 1337801492 205971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337801698 994198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because geeks don't need the word for the usual meaning < 1337801716 104602 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-198-86.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337801721 792973 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-198-86.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Client Quit < 1337802109 180608 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337802366 465743 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :medical imaging, is that fun? or maybe secure communication systems, which looked more low level < 1337802391 576585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing < 1337802449 790379 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :surfing around for jobs in the area, thought I might switch if I find something fun < 1337802606 697267 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: was it due to the 13min video? < 1337802653 936732 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that goes without saying.. < 1337802681 169438 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow a joke about geeks not getting laid < 1337802684 295221 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how clever < 1337802694 772228 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's funny because geeks don't get laid < 1337802714 358050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: stfu i spent like three seconds suppressing the urge to snark on it if i can resist everyone must < 1337802735 445273 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that's not actually true < 1337802753 984749 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the geeks who don't get laid are the ones who lack skill < 1337802763 101981 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess jokes are founded on lies often < 1337802763 557098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for your input itidus21 < 1337802781 30918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, lies are a different thing to stereotypes < 1337802788 455894 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to make friends if you are surrounded by people very different from you < 1337802791 721244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jokes based on stereotypes are usually not actually funny < 1337802793 487299 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :skill generates income which attracts women < 1337802793 956592 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why geeks don't get laid in high school < 1337802798 595828 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately, real life is not high school < 1337802800 720851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: just... stop < 1337802810 558475 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :; < 1337802891 747323 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, yes < 1337802917 785694 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i like hiding behind the fallacious stereotype though i secretly know geeks get laid as much as non-geeks, and it's other factors entirely which determine laid or not < 1337802942 291439 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, the yes was to the surge being caused by the video < 1337802944 188287 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure about "as much" < 1337802972 524620 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think how much sex you have as an adult correlates less with how popular you were in high school than people tend to assume < 1337803005 331566 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337803029 128401 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I should not contribute to this conversation. < 1337803059 973455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337803063 105960 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so contribute to the meta-conversation < 1337803064 16634 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1337803097 253928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the opposite of meta < 1337803119 948342 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :para or ortho, take your pick < 1337803130 129314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :contribute to the orthoconversation < 1337803137 160702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the orthoconversation of a regular conversation is < 1337803159 799789 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is itself? < 1337803196 710464 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never contribute to meta-conversations. < 1337803210 895391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no < 1337803214 261049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the orthometaconversation would be itself < 1337803226 526753 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :orthometa :/ < 1337803246 205000 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfectly cromulent word. < 1337803252 60982 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that meme is overused. < 1337803257 408169 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I should just go to bed and read a book < 1337803279 275513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to book and read a bed < 1337803285 329736 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what I really should do though is locate all versions of my CV and figure out which one is the latest < 1337803289 787643 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, in a metaconversational sense, it seems my style makes it more necessary to indicate when a post is made in response to me with my nick < 1337803309 328592 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually thats wrong.. < 1337803313 95443 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just like a wave.. < 1337803322 897933 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337803323 824146 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's nick was also referenced several times before mine < 1337803368 117430 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably best if i stay out of the metaconversation! < 1337803397 959451 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"advanced object oriented Javascript with server communication" and "Good knowledge of Java" doesn't bode well, perhaps strike that one < 1337803750 370482 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A website powered by Java on the backend could reasonably require knowledge of both < 1337804054 296584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: but that would imply that the job was highly enterprisey < 1337804059 9392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's probably still a bad sign < 1337804074 785635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java on webservers is on the short list of things that let you know you should run away < 1337804107 218458 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1337804354 878781 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, people will assume you worked in an EnterpriseJavaBeanFrameworkSolutionFactory < 1337804433 417789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the beans being soy and lent < 1337804440 657629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :public String getHelpImTrappedInTheJavaBeanFactory(); < 1337804471 872510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lentils < 1337804539 249091 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337804570 236190 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337806863 312480 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A63B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337807155 60346 :madbr!~madbrain@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337807249 224417 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337807567 97541 :madbr!~madbrain@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337808077 232972 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1337808366 102215 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1337808479 915114 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337808843 162281 :madbr!~madbrain@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337809133 34963 :madbr!~madbrain@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337809746 907461 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337809838 441592 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1337809861 130658 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337811047 18206 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337812913 215856 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337812942 246253 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337813165 671282 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1337813172 401126 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337813173 812274 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Client Quit < 1337813181 893932 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337813375 985331 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337813596 927539 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337813627 706430 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Augh, electricsheep looks hideous at 1080p. < 1337813666 942251 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337813691 30646 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337813795 538208 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A63B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337813987 389026 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1337814020 297393 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think i’ve seen some HD clips of ES and i don’t remember thinking they look worse than the standard stuff. < 1337814047 855121 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, those HD clips are prerendered and possibly are being held back as a future premium thing. < 1337814099 318200 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Default resolution is something like 800x592. < 1337814101 3683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: btw watch NEQOXEC on CAO when it's on. < 1337814105 31044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a summoning MuCK. < 1337814322 583454 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1337814515 518617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4200 / 60 < 1337814516 186966 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 70.0 < 1337814597 408769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Calculating your weed schedule? < 1337814606 281923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337814639 512043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that 10 weeds every hour? < 1337814645 430983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your garden will be awful. < 1337814645 480951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 70 * 1070 * 0.425 < 1337814646 216542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 31832.5 < 1337815050 824322 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337815079 489291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337815693 233563 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337815978 23042 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337816024 341685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1337816024 535212 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337816131 236937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages! < 1337816131 443543 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages messages? < 1337816313 446089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's ok if you have +23 cpa and berk trj < 1337816387 45870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: anyway so < 1337816394 183972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i ask you if you know where fire storm targetting is handled < 1337816402 228794 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1337816418 629427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337816421 686036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know where fire storm targetting is handled < 1337816435 679824 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1337816459 250628 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337816483 528226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1337816496 135158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might just ask elliptic since he seems to be responsible for new_squarelos and it's a Squarelos Problem < 1337816842 365585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw < 1337816847 762201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEQOXEC the MuCK started < 1337816858 519296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and got a summoning rod from xom < 1337816863 969105 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1337816866 938914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's a fake musu < 1337816873 372860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "from xom" i mean xom gave a scroll of acq which gave the rod < 1337816877 872035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mah it's a muck < 1337816879 525882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it's like +ridiculous < 1337816901 824552 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rods rods rods is 100% muck < 1337816925 322198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not the one who said it was fake musu first! < 1337816928 125674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had to ~see it happen~ < 1337817035 177271 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337817209 633295 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337817213 212533 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337817354 243596 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337817557 940507 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337818042 200142 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337818153 113977 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337818240 231542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did i miss anything < 1337818328 958748 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337818339 590971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1337818340 655805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- me < 1337818348 192365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :–—–—–—– < 1337818545 239409 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1337818973 675604 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/GAW7C.jpg < 1337819041 160291 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@125.34.214.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337819041 178357 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@125.34.214.176 QUIT :Changing host < 1337819041 178430 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1337819048 731036 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1337819196 582515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh --kmc < 1337819270 538368 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hem ++kmc < 1337819282 976231 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc += kmc-- < 1337819297 76417 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc -= kmc++ < 1337819629 389615 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337819850 336422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337820096 502204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337820104 743243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337820115 877104 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337820150 161473 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337820167 568309 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi elliott < 1337820326 854032 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337820541 213601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: witness dog < 1337820548 531245 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1337820551 835672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: witness dog < 1337820559 279968 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1337820561 421937 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you tired < 1337820564 300950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :difficultly < 1337820567 369147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1337820576 928870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that tired < 1337821323 629519 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>>>>>>>+<<<<<<<< < 1337821426 910910 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337821582 985956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1337822125 358177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: perhaps < 1337822201 39995 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337823333 374847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: guess what's about to get squarelos < 1337823406 326654 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1337823437 510074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i suggest you play some AKs afterwards because I'm pretty sure I ~op'd~ corrupt < 1337823440 196687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also tornado < 1337823443 602762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :play a tornadoing AK < 1337823465 155256 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be more op than what tornado used to be < 1337823474 763262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did it use to be < 1337823495 556422 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :level 8, near full los, no timeout, long duration, huge ac-ignoring damage per turn < 1337823530 281564 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it did more damage if you were hasted < 1337823537 2094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1337823538 125522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337823540 566173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did anyone design that < 1337823552 243478 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of it was fixed before the release < 1337823558 916546 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the rest of it was fixed later < 1337823686 344444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im "tell elliptic" < 1337823691 169886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eagerly awaiting shaming" < 1337823768 59365 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :megashamed < 1337823810 525123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel the shame < 1337824142 417802 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337824146 171797 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337824369 251137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im actualyl dying of the sham. < 1337824381 32100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? an elliott (inner sham) < 1337824515 730500 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337825363 870097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: It bothers me how we refer to a line of sight as having a shape. < 1337825371 430541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there better Crawl terminology for that? < 1337825377 460885 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337825411 986807 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-198.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337825426 634479 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-254-156.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337825435 128916 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thanks crawl" < 1337825438 831751 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :all hail the circlelos < 1337825463 991042 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the idea that line of site is not directional? < 1337825487 234131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: the idea is that computer-game worlds have weird topology < 1337825495 728152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus it's awkward to define what exactly a circle should be < 1337825516 542159 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: :( < 1337825525 923261 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION becomes self concious of using the words "the idea" < 1337825528 661944 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly, a square makes the most sense when diagonal motion is possible. circles are just prettier < 1337825543 113312 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :circles are not prettier !!! < 1337825558 298683 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he could just use an asterisk shape < 1337825564 57580 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sez you < 1337825564 748639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: have you seen approximated circles < 1337825569 18018 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337825569 79874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Crawl < 1337825572 425281 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because whoever makes these decisions is probably a male :P < 1337825572 462666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1337825574 380521 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are awesome < 1337825575 334405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter what's pretty < 1337825577 609543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it messes with gameplay < 1337825578 355568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :severely < 1337825591 260785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ask any experienced player, if you don't believe me) < 1337825600 241561 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :next on the "stupid quasieuclidean things messing with gameplay" list: targeting < 1337825603 603772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like "it's better to approach diagonally or horizontally because the enemy will see you less" < 1337825610 757221 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know how to fix it ! < 1337825616 886251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "Make the line-of-sight square" "Make line-of-sight square" < 1337825619 680542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of these is more correct :( < 1337825628 818494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"squarelos" < 1337825639 139344 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yahoo is nearly as bad as that worlds video < 1337825647 751148 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :demonpoweredinternet left the room < 1337825653 888725 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :timemachinemessiah left the room < 1337825662 87497 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also next on that list: light bending around walls funny < 1337825673 538866 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thejock_of_torment left the room < 1337825674 747527 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh well ," < 1337825691 111853 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :***********s_smell_worse_than_my_shit left the room < 1337825703 505337 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*********** ? < 1337825712 461284 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not important what that is < 1337825722 744924 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a word worse than shit :o < 1337825726 560260 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does such a word exist :o < 1337825730 30259 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me what it is :o < 1337825771 589693 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :one way to make true euclidean geometry works is to make diagonal moves take sqrt(2) times the amount of time orthogonal moves take (aka, 1 turn will not always be 1 time step) < 1337825771 720858 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever a mystery < 1337825780 830279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :additionally < 1337825782 987966 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that wouldn't work < 1337825796 706115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "The log entries for the commits used follow:" or "The log entries for the commits used follows:" < 1337825798 573369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is correct :( < 1337825801 202663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337825805 173380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give a serious answer to my first question < 1337825807 636352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is one of the options I gave < 1337825814 887731 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why wouldnt it work < 1337825816 893942 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no because i don't have an opinion on it < 1337825822 53687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :( < 1337825824 176961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i need an opinion < 1337825844 139300 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "follow" is correct < 1337825856 683631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: since everything's all discretized you still don't get single minimal paths < 1337825868 569403 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that throws a wrench into calling it actually euclidean, no ? < 1337825872 335726 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the units of space called in crawl? :D < 1337825879 204941 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the so called tiles or squares or cells < 1337825880 425724 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: squares, tiles, you name it ! < 1337825883 836663 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1337825892 551114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The log entries for the commits used follow (in chronological order): < 1337825898 269359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a less awkward way to write this < 1337825899 263580 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: its true euclidean where you're not allowed to move in z straight line. :P < 1337825900 474946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. avoiding the parenthical < 1337825906 740841 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tetragons! < 1337825918 126508 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hardly true euclidean ! < 1337825947 215594 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The log entries for the commits used follow in chronological order < 1337825950 42327 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the space is euclidean, you just can't take advantage of the fact! < 1337825957 704348 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: im weeping < 1337825958 440664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: pls ^ < 1337825983 323233 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the fact that i knew what they were shows that math has really let this area of naming down < 1337825984 510642 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with monqy. just drop the parens < 1337825991 325124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't notice monqy < 1337825992 849564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry monqy < 1337825994 70097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks monqy < 1337826006 588755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems kinda weird with the parenthical though < 1337826011 783323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it's obvious it's in chronological order! < 1337826023 31904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1337826025 279939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine how confusing a roguelike would be if diagonals were root-2 slower than orthogonals < 1337826026 47545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git logs usually aren't < 1337826026 842700 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if its obvious dont say it at all < 1337826027 180550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1337826035 881330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's not that obvious because it's in a git log view < 1337826045 301515 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then say it :P < 1337826062 22217 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I particularly like the arguments that it's more intuitive that way < 1337826075 908807 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well one approach would be to overlay a real disc on top of the squares and make a rule about how much % of the square has to be covered before it is part of the disc < 1337826078 736508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The (chronologically-ordered) log entries for the non-merge commits < 1337826078 754812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unique to that branch follow: < 1337826080 451286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this better < 1337826080 724530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what, root2los? < 1337826089 783330 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: exactly. now add the ability to move between two points alonga straight euclidean line (without doing any actions along the way) < 1337826092 209512 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: root2 diagonal movement < 1337826106 9378 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337826122 441563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: haha, that's not intuitive at all < 1337826141 622069 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I'm misremembering, not everyone agrees! < 1337826153 60313 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ha ha) < 1337826174 844959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey ais523 < 1337826177 866887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Make the line-of-sight square." < 1337826182 329250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make this commit message not a contradiction in terms < 1337826201 750710 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make the viewable region square" < 1337826211 366443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you can view beyond that < 1337826214 390889 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Implement squarelos" "Import new_squarelos" < 1337826216 433799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, when you say "A record of X follows:" or similar, do you use a colon, or a full stop?) < 1337826228 812287 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where squarelos and new_squarelos are technical terms < 1337826231 950846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I mention new_squarelos in the commit message, but it is simply too powerful a word to put in the summary line! < 1337826247 614486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptic used "Square LOS." but that's not even a sentence! < 1337826258 948055 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how can you view beyons that? i thought it was all fog-of-war beyond? < 1337826266 667680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you can remember what you saw < 1337826276 211247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, LOS affects things like targetting too < 1337826278 574907 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: remembering is not seeing < 1337826279 924379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not just visibility < 1337826284 970879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it is viewing < 1337826293 991914 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337826298 881838 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then "visible region" < 1337826306 320404 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where visible=seeable < 1337826322 991325 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "hole in the fog-of-war" :P < 1337826368 337805 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"targetable region"? < 1337826376 421283 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"active region"? < 1337826377 468804 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337826379 956951 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"field of view" < 1337826389 404869 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1337826436 201653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw just to check < 1337826454 390297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when you stand directly north-west of a single-square wall with circlelos < 1337826477 779093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: aha, that one has official precedent < 1337826478 709819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./hints.cc: "accidentally entering into its field of view when using " < 1337826480 881204 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same thing that happens when you stand directly north-west of a single-square wall in squarelos, no? < 1337826509 469701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ostr << "You can easily mark its square as dangerous to avoid " < 1337826509 487981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : "accidentally entering into its field of view when using " < 1337826509 488143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : "auto-explore or auto-travel. To do so, enter targeting " < 1337826513 700080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: right, just checking < 1337826540 417238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you walk slightly away from that wall? you still get a few dots south-east of you invisible but everything around them visible, right? < 1337826545 670499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just checking that I haven't introduced any nastiness < 1337826552 670394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because it's damn ugly in tiles) < 1337826556 529259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course everything is but) < 1337826608 969707 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiles? < 1337826615 369266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tested in tiles because i had to < 1337826620 597765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway just confirm :'( < 1337826695 663342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make the field of view square. < 1337826698 689648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this an acceptable commit message < 1337826702 674033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels weird not mentioning los < 1337826754 562391 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337826767 520375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're worrying too much about your commit messsag < 1337826768 13071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help :( < 1337826821 540476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help :( < 1337826822 669225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im wory < 1337826824 590525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the commit message can < 1337826824 961238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never < 1337826825 917419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be changed < 1337826830 277419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must get it right the first time!!! < 1337826840 399960 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rolls eyes < 1337826850 660824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you github for making me stare at "Hardcore Forking Action" once again to get this done < 1337826850 722865 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone might download it on the basis of the commit message < 1337826854 429190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help! < 1337826864 663377 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is hardcore forking action < 1337826929 478804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardcore Forking Action < 1337826929 499757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're forking a repository just for you. It should only take a few seconds. Refresh at will < 1337826935 855100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the awful message github displays when you fork a repository < 1337826946 225547 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make the field of view square (squarelos, bitches!) < 1337826948 32080 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1337826951 575553 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks githube < 1337826961 124109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no if i wrote that i'd have to kill myself and burn my corpse < 1337826977 569990 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which god < 1337826979 940718 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337826987 326714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1337826999 973230 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which god are you sac'ing your corpse to < 1337827032 526987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they dont burn they just disappear in flames < 1337827036 70873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just burning it < 1337827037 58457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for myself < 1337827040 413001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait new person < 1337827041 906565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome BlueProtoman < 1337827045 742494 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337827054 265564 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've been here before. < 1337827063 344903 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome anyway < 1337827069 401713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337827070 140209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1337827072 923139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for the second-level welcome < 1337827073 207952 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:[ < 1337827073 461089 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendly is not just for newcomers < 1337827076 109761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME BLUEPROTOMAN < 1337827079 301356 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLUEPROTOMAN: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1337827081 345712 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, thanks. < 1337827087 872396 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wElCoMe < 1337827090 868231 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wElCoMe: not found < 1337827091 561814 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wElCoMe test < 1337827095 490764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so welcome that we forgot you were here < 1337827095 562438 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaaargh < 1337827095 802535 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wElCoMe: not found < 1337827104 73484 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're so nice. < 1337827130 813785 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, that's the nicest I've ever seen anyone on IRC. Won't lie. < 1337827146 703481 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nicest welcome wagon, rather. Hell, this is the only welcome wagon I've seen. < 1337827154 276231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to think of how to be amusingly horrible in response that doesn't cross the line into being actually horrible < 1337827158 295637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i give up < 1337827160 697351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you win, friendliness < 1337827167 778237 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In bed. < 1337827191 815320 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway... < 1337827210 707600 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1337827211 103239 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question. I'm trying to do a Brainfuck interpreter in C++. I can successfully check to see whether the braces [] are valid, and I record their positions in a vector, too. Problem is, now I'm not sure how to use this vector to skip the instruction pointer past a ] if the value at the current cell is 0. < 1337827242 945160 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on your data structure < 1337827249 857183 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a dictionary? < 1337827259 965084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :list of pairs? < 1337827267 438039 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a stack to see whether the braces are valid or not. < 1337827297 305667 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I supposed I could somehow use a stack of a pair... < 1337827349 950406 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell, you can even just do a linear search for the matching brace every time you must jump between them :P < 1337827361 185168 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i suppose you want efficiency < 1337827369 204094 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's how I check for brace validity. I just create a stack that records the position of each brace, opening or closing. If the stack underflows or ends up not empty at the end of the check, we don't run the program. < 1337827371 870225 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, I do. < 1337827394 427167 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also want to remove non-BF characters with a regex, but this is more important. < 1337827433 82963 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1337827434 600266 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1337827449 186994 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run < 1337827452 114327 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1337827456 512862 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :one easy thing to do is replace the braces with the location of the other brace in your actual program represtation < 1337827459 34161 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1337827461 745117 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1337827481 545234 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What do you mean? < 1337827486 418176 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your have a list of +-><., or number < 1337827491 948702 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1337827498 576793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if its a number, check the sign < 1337827510 122806 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ means opening brace, negative means closing brace < 1337827521 23461 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, then we have ambiguities with -'s. < 1337827541 599855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do brace operation, jump to magnitude of number when necessary < 1337827543 872585 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1337827554 468963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a list now not a string remember < 1337827562 84916 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, right. < 1337827610 694667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you do the replacement of braces with numbers when your validator pops the bracepair < 1337827619 383348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy peasy < 1337827692 819796 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possible limitation: program length will be limited to max_int of the data type you use for numbers < 1337827694 31207 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-226.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337827705 810948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is long enough for all real programs) < 1337827784 260385 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But don't I need the ability to reference entries by index? Lists don't provide that. < 1337827809 643932 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I want to generalize this to other Brainfuck derivatives, some of which use numbers. < 1337827880 928375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could actually parse to an actually AST and then everything will be fine & dandy ,right? < 1337827961 375466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, array. i meant list in the abstract, not a particular implementation < 1337827993 928311 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, OK. Vector it is. < 1337828001 366543 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But wait! < 1337828003 743705 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, if you want to parse shit like bfjoust, why not parse to an AST < 1337828008 731043 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are those? < 1337828056 725927 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a harder but more general technique < 1337828073 808308 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-99.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337828076 266792 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337828109 927440 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are ASTs? < 1337828119 77361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :abstract syntax tree < 1337828123 447654 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's another system: keep a dictionary of left/right braces. when you come to a left brace, index to dictionary key. when you come to a right brace, index it by value. < 1337828126 268369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's less scary than it sounds < 1337828134 156545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just make data types to represent each type of syntax in the language < 1337828252 675958 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: French to me. I'm gonna do compilers in college, but right now... < 1337828282 333632 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Oooh, that works, too. Thanks for the tip! < 1337828305 655281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: Here's my preferred scheme for bracket-matching: < 1337828324 372274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: You have an array, indexed by source position. < 1337828330 717243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In array[position_of_left_brace], you store position_of_right_brace. < 1337828339 81884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In array[position_of_right_brace], you store position_of_left_brace. < 1337828341 438174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then jumping is really easy. < 1337828348 547048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: an associative map (like std::map) is better than an array here. < 1337828389 54012 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or an unordered_map, maybe? Those have quicker lookup times, I think. < 1337828439 489899 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that basically sounds like what i said above, but with twice as many pairs < 1337828443 557977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, whatever. I don't do implementation details :) < 1337828443 595556 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah it works too < 1337828453 84882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yours is more complicated :p < 1337828453 986501 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twice as many pairs? < 1337828478 459635 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the things i do for memory efficiency :P < 1337828483 513513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I don't like Light folks' anti-nerfing sentiment. :( < 1337828505 218099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: come to monqys-crawl !!! in the future < 1337828539 261316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the far far far....far < 1337828543 543935 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :....nonexitent future < 1337828945 582829 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the distant future, the year 2000 > 1337829284 260815 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337829284 559234 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1337829284 561880 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric > 1337829288 391581 JOIN :#esoteric > 1337829288 904841 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337830024 839934 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@ool-18b81608.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337830075 857546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337830289 658636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337830333 850409 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-113.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337830515 386714 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-198.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337830642 889370 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337830706 994837 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337831974 189216 :a!~Lairc@112.79.40.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337831990 963412 :a!~Lairc@112.79.40.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337831995 626346 :a!~Lairc@112.79.40.199 NICK :Guest65643 < 1337832008 630040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337832009 991837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Guest65643 < 1337832013 961963 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest65643: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337832033 169721 :Guest65643!~Lairc@112.79.40.199 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337832041 158343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1337832741 571948 :Lymee!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1337832942 60271 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337833027 457421 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-137-160.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337833058 504034 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337833261 151795 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-113.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337834526 429023 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-147-135.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337834616 111271 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useful tool: https://github.com/timmaxw/netrecord < 1337834642 254050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useful tool: http:// < 1337834648 590675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You should play Crawl Light. < 1337834650 619928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has squarelos now. < 1337834670 387643 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: help what's crawlight???????? < 1337834683 661979 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :qne: what's squarelos????? < 1337834694 472336 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :squarelos angeles < 1337834762 561282 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-137-160.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337834885 297698 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337835053 141280 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-147-135.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337837304 108503 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-148-11.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337837419 726376 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-148-11.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337837453 168750 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-99.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337837609 652840 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-148-11.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337837769 609910 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-148-11.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337838010 913462 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-225-230.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337838953 581400 :bin_bash!~bin_bash@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337838960 677980 :bin_bash!~bin_bash@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to use brainfuck to build an IRC bot. < 1337839072 530423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337839074 433367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been done, though < 1337839077 605634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome bin_bash < 1337839080 97135 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin_bash: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337839084 683595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll need an interface to connect it to the network < 1337839102 475989 :bin_bash!~bin_bash@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been done? really?. well shit. < 1337839107 844847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not "really". < 1337839114 346170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only one I've seen just joined and said something, then pinged out a bit later. < 1337839117 215276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't even accept input. < 1337839129 305786 :bin_bash!~bin_bash@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337839364 503955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-04-06 12:33:29 I'm written in brainfuck < 1337839366 1127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But then, it was a lie.) < 1337839392 94237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are *you* written in brainfuck? < 1337839393 772247 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's probably intentionally inaccessible to the language construct, before they used computers. when i was using symbols, there's no way you can just push enter again < 1337839422 22859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's a "maybe". < 1337839428 482567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Patashu How was it that brogue's stairs were scummable, again? There's talk of doing something similar (monsters following you through them) for Crawl Light. < 1337839429 318590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337839494 58388 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You never answore my question. < 1337839528 499361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You asked it with too many question marks. < 1337839777 605938 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1337840207 599197 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh. < 1337840211 308822 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What's Crawl Light? < 1337840247 700567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fork of Crawl that removes a lot of pointless tedium (hunger, curses, identification), shortens the game, and is starting to add new stuff; e.g. it has a hard mode. < 1337840251 496898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it has squarelos now. < 1337840302 943831 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are squarelos? < 1337840370 404396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how the field of view is a badly-approximated circle in Crawl? < 1337840373 186962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a square in Light. < 1337840377 432723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which fixes a bunch of gameplay bugs. < 1337840824 850759 :bin_bash!~bin_bash@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453 PART #esoteric :"And I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad. The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had." < 1337841262 143914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337841539 666749 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1337841596 932740 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337841858 626878 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1337841859 759423 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337842267 270549 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337842808 217405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: hi < 1337842840 970978 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1337842841 165112 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337842869 955335 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://brogue.wikia.com/wiki/Stairdancing this should fully explain it < 1337842888 338978 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, in brogue monsters follow you when you take stairs if they were hunting you actively when you took it < 1337842895 58508 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :X turns pass and then they come up the stairs < 1337842898 462616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand that much < 1337842904 806668 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :where X = how long it takes them to get there < 1337842913 521704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i also understand this :P < 1337842972 957451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If all these are satisfied, the game calculates how long it would take the monster to walk to where you were (not to the stairs, to where you were)" < 1337842975 231164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is obviously broken < 1337842976 916523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would be fixed < 1337842994 494934 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing about brogue staircases is < 1337842998 898047 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking the staircase is an instant action < 1337843006 387244 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're next to a staircase you can will yourself to be next to it on the other level < 1337843008 768645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instant as in 0 turn? < 1337843009 863691 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :using your mental powers < 1337843011 979358 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 turns < 1337843013 439083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it's adjacent < 1337843015 819396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean you can go up < 1337843016 371758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :down < 1337843016 779362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :up < 1337843017 872774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :down < 1337843019 826001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 0 turns < 1337843022 889252 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it takes 0 time < 1337843023 437022 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337843025 920215 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit weird < 1337843026 883784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is also broken < 1337843029 297833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would be fixed < 1337843038 38790 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fun thing you can exploit about this is < 1337843038 313060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do those two things in combination fix the scumming? :P < 1337843042 627222 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :say you and a monster are next to the stairs < 1337843043 966946 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you take the stairs < 1337843045 161082 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a step < 1337843045 988127 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the monster appear < 1337843048 931346 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now take the stairs again < 1337843051 759249 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat as long as you like < 1337843055 471538 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like crawl's doordancing but with stairs < 1337843057 692356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1337843067 76473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, none of that will apply to Light < 1337843067 270748 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is very cheap < 1337843076 710358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should play Light!!! it has squarelos now < 1337843079 327723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to meeeeee < 1337843111 56572 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy, squarelos < 1337843119 276731 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'll have to unlearn my habit of moving diagonally towards things < 1337843123 769791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehehehe < 1337843132 877658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who even does that < 1337843136 74127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do even you do that < 1337843138 578727 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :another fun thing about brogue < 1337843141 125619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who can be BOTHERED, man < 1337843144 701948 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monsters are slightly less likely to wake up approaching them diagonally < 1337843149 676678 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only if they're land based < 1337843152 5108 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1337843157 291011 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You never told me what squarelos were. < 1337843157 802164 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't do that < 1337843163 928071 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :squarelos is < 1337843165 304394 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the los is a square < 1337843166 619977 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :circlelos is < 1337843166 984519 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: did you know: light has sidestepping < 1337843167 981012 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the los is a circle < 1337843168 827707 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess you did. < 1337843171 865040 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: w-what < 1337843172 824408 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it a square? < 1337843180 19212 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: like in doomrl < 1337843186 25081 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because it can't be both a square and a circle at once < 1337843190 664638 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I never mastered sidestepping in doomrl < 1337843190 858689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: https://github.com/dtsund/crawl-light/commit/4978bd01902f948a5bdbc00d48539a2d912523a7 the biggest commit < 1337843195 342969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mastered" < 1337843196 844997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in light it's just < 1337843198 279258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :50% chance < 1337843199 789698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the end < 1337843201 510017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it was < 1337843202 983749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it changed < 1337843251 376123 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Make noise squarer.' < 1337843252 848025 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be a circle on even turns and a square on odd turns. < 1337843255 327926 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is my favourite sentence of the day < 1337843275 703792 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"indjinnuity" < 1337843282 999384 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :' Replace PI with 3 for Tornado rotation purposes.' < 1337843284 950066 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, pi is 3 < 1337843289 384893 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the universe explodes* < 1337843316 466151 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye universe :'( < 1337843330 669702 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when the universe explodes at the end of Riven? < 1337843340 580557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ // const int corrupt_perc_chance = < 1337843340 774558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1386 < 1337843340 774692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ // idistance * idistance <= ground_zero_radius2 ? 100 : < 1337843342 113349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1387 < 1337843344 102577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ // std::max(1, 100 - (idistance * idistance - ground_zero_radius2) * 70 / 42); < 1337843346 169545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice forgetting-to-coment-out, elliott < 1337843360 191610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1337843360 770035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove < 1337843361 638925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :commented < 1337843362 186463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :out < 1337843364 206194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :things < 1337843374 700653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: anyway telnet light.bitprayer.com < 1337843377 335461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also #CrawlLight < 1337843386 554665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ~a whale of a time~ < 1337843397 251120 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/join #CrawlLight < 1337843409 251810 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice try, shachaf ! < 1337843416 303145 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO #cRAWLlIGHT < 1337843429 139185 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: thanks ! < 1337843509 722700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: (#crawllight does not talk much) < 1337843513 766851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when it does < 1337843572 671705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: btw you should try hard mode < 1337843578 254093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask monqy for details on hard mde < 1337843579 94258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode < 1337843600 664787 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is #CrawlLight a type of beer? < 1337843603 911135 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337843643 549511 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337844176 776818 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337844232 290472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You should play Crawl Light! IT HAS SQUARELOS NOW. THANKS TO ME. < 1337844236 834191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ALSO YOU < 1337844238 427603 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (...) and generate all posible combinations of the three < 1337844241 585882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: AND YOU < 1337844269 249139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you were there, and you were there, and you were there < 1337844300 7101 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Should I play Crawl Light? < 1337844322 889631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. < 1337844324 55262 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:25 !talk crawl < 1337844324 249277 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:25 crawl instead! =D =D =D =D =D =D =D =D =D =D good for washing her mother father’s sister doesn't work in multiple .muttrcs < 1337844325 785613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Or yes. < 1337844338 128920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe.) < 1337844339 444288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Never.) < 1337844651 589104 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337845043 903921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337845263 781924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337846138 585682 :Lymee!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan NICK :Madoka-Kaname < 1337847231 381126 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337847353 174671 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337847392 970212 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337847741 125296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337848226 581007 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a little butterfly! < 1337848263 697594 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[butterfly] < 1337848463 702681 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noo, that transcription is wrong < 1337848507 720067 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's [bVt@flaI]! < 1337848533 896501 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like that transcription < 1337848561 427863 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Can you transcribe it for us? < 1337848574 26433 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1337848582 305232 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly that @ that i don't like < 1337848666 336245 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott it's mostly that @ that i don't like < 1337848666 695129 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337848701 818283 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got me, < 1337848728 307415 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't worry monqy I'm a big monqyfan!) < 1337848852 440911 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it bad that the first I heard of Yahoo! Axis is due to the private key? < 1337848918 238270 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it just came out yesterday or something. < 1337848959 682592 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/u26pv/yahoo_included_their_cert_private_key_inside_the/ < 1337848972 291708 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo I saw < 1337848984 56382 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://p.twimg.com/AtoL12ICIAEwTbz.jpg:large < 1337849010 199686 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it's linked there < 1337849978 525582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: haha, ouch! < 1337850099 304308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'd heard of Yahoo! Axis before, but they only announced it today, IIRC < 1337850121 945729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a mistake as obvious as that is likely to be found quickly < 1337850122 493950 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :sebbu, OUCH < 1337850127 473330 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo* < 1337850128 570687 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you < 1337850130 998003 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a mistake like tht? < 1337850133 408934 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :that* < 1337850133 971907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who puts their private key in a source tarball anyway? < 1337850142 235457 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think they meant for people to use it... < 1337850149 540826 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just they didn't think out the implications. < 1337850178 751842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a public private key is completely useless :) < 1337850191 282741 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1337850203 776024 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was assuming that maybe someone was a bit unsure of how Chrome extensions work? < 1337850212 66970 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And didn't know that much about cryptography? < 1337850221 871700 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they meant for the developers to use it, and, failed to think things through, to be honest. < 1337850225 909986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd have to be both, I think < 1337850227 847176 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought that in order to sign it, they needed the key in there? < 1337850234 70357 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't look like bad will, nor an accident. < 1337850251 931713 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only it said "PRIVATE KEY" in big letters < 1337850271 4023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it makes some sort of sense to have the key with the rest of the source on their dev machines, because it's part of what you need to actually build and release the extension < 1337850293 715026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't make sense to make it part of the source you hand out (as part of the extension, in this case, because Chrome extensions are delivered in source form) < 1337850353 703172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the GPLv3's anti-tivoisation stuff doesn't require you to provide /your/ key, just if a key's required, provide a mechanism via which the user can use theirs, or one you provide for them < 1337850394 308770 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt Chrome's extension system is good enough for a public testing key though. < 1337850415 72510 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my shiiiit, they did *what*. < 1337850425 542209 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They actually released their private key. < 1337850429 13966 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, if that's the case, there's a different question. < 1337850442 567991 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do the developers have direct access to the public key? < 1337850459 262391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I assume a company as big as Yahoo! have more than one private key < 1337850459 688223 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /hope/ that isn't their master key. < 1337850475 35099 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, true, but *any* private key leaking is moronic. < 1337850475 229174 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, never assume sanity. < 1337850481 266678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, a valid private key for Yahoo! is the sort of thing that criminals would find quite valuable < 1337850484 284794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: agreed < 1337850511 588915 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, if a developer had their key. < 1337850515 882751 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's its own kind if inane. < 1337850524 3102 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it was the build manager, I suppose. < 1337850539 131135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the key's got to be made out to Yahoo!, right? < 1337850585 667743 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1337850589 275865 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any developer with it < 1337850593 664819 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could use it for malicious purposes already < 1337850614 491468 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :If devs really had it, that's possibly >10-20 people who can leak/do nasty things with it < 1337850618 112042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1337850632 241399 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally. < 1337850646 845703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's of a similar level of chaos to being able to reliably forge Bill Gates' handwritten signature, in such a way that people would believe it was him < 1337850663 223509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, or the equivalent for the CEO of Yahoo!, at least < 1337850668 383994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever the new one is, or haven't they appointed one yet? < 1337850674 211594 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This also suggests somewhat poor key protocol. < 1337850675 499914 :cheater!~cheater@g231045133.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1337850675 694246 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +b :cheater*!*@*.adsl.alicedsl.de < 1337850675 695459 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. KICK #esoteric cheater :User is banned from this channel > 1337850675 875943 NAMES :#esoteric < 1337850698 30546 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't we have an mechanism to where < 1337850716 830934 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning that I bet a lot of people are going to be trying shit on Yahoo. < 1337850722 808529 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be the normal thing to do, exactly? < 1337850735 30041 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, limited distribution of the kye < 1337850736 195254 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :key* < 1337850739 185254 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only people whom need it have it < 1337850742 506866 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even only automatic systems. < 1337850759 748774 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sysadmins could easily snatch the key, I think, even with lots of precautions) < 1337850760 675183 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than give devs the key? Have another in-house key? < 1337850775 690279 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, I mean, for devs to test < 1337850776 171563 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giving devs the production key is a horrible idea. < 1337850782 839955 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, umm... < 1337850791 17095 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giving devs a test key is trivial. < 1337850798 281272 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't the private key be physically separated from everything else < 1337850799 377439 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You, well, just make one up. < 1337850801 287872 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except when needed to publish < 1337850802 108910 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The proper solution is to have a test mode so you don't need things signed. < 1337850803 179651 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps also a testing CA. < 1337850812 404000 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: In a sane environment? Yes. < 1337850817 214523 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui for chrome you generate a new keypair for every extension < 1337850823 299554 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is hardly like leaking the yahoo master key < 1337850824 610699 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: I'm assuming for some reason you can't just do that. < 1337850826 545677 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still a major fuckup < 1337850848 78632 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, you make a test CA and test certs off that. < 1337850848 352853 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leaking the Yahoo CA key would... < 1337850850 705792 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it would be bad. < 1337850852 93577 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very very bad. < 1337850866 581407 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really not that hard. I've got the tools for it installed right now. < 1337850868 982307 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't even revoke a CA key, right? < 1337850871 19686 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they come with OpenSSL) < 1337850883 35182 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Yahoo even a CA? < 1337850891 901598 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might have a CA-level key < 1337850898 566587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: you /can/, not via the revocation method, but all the browser manufacturers will go remove the CA from their list of root keys < 1337850904 599500 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How you "revoke" a CA is convincing people to remove it from the list of approved keys. < 1337850907 318187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's already happened to DigiNotar < 1337850913 649902 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a leak of a CA key makes that happen *quick*. < 1337850933 561469 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And usually they also remove all other keys you've ever had, because you're bad at this. < 1337850935 424821 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't convince the average user. < 1337850977 329057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have to convince the average user, they put it in the browser updates and push it out as security updates < 1337850981 887120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :average user will normally apply /those/ < 1337850984 667960 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't have to, it's a "screaming emergency" security patch. Anymore, it'll happen unless it's some guy using Windows 95 on a computer bought in 1995. < 1337851012 178043 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that guy has a computer where every single binary is infected with a virus, so who cares? < 1337851047 44708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's probably running, umm, IE4? < 1337851065 270498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I wonder how easily exploitable IE4 on Win95 is nowadays from random attacks in the wild < 1337851071 139189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd wonder if they'd died out due to a lack of hosts < 1337851085 880999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whether there's still one hugely optimistic win95 virus somewhere still trying to spread < 1337851097 407495 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, could be running IE5.5. < 1337851131 143367 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, win95 viruses can't even infect modern Windows, right? < 1337851153 500863 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In principle you could make a virus with multiple attack vectors... < 1337851158 102583 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches mbam scan itself < 1337851163 169723 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's highly unlikely anyone bothered trying. < 1337851175 603537 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux/Windows might be attempted < 1337851178 130732 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see a WINE-aware virus < 1337851179 61068 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, I doubt it. < 1337851184 351144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: in theory they could, if the backwards-compatibility is good enough; but the attack vectors they user are pretty locked down < 1337851196 903743 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, that is just a Linux virus in a PE executable. < 1337851199 419861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: Linux/Windows has been done as proof of concept, but it didn't get into the wild < 1337851202 950025 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link libc.so < 1337851211 566975 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you detect WINE, try using Linux syscalls < 1337851212 452921 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1337851223 490776 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The architecture of Win9x is so damned *different* from WinNT that most of the more clever viruses would hard-core break. < 1337851242 57774 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the less clever ones would get permission errors on WinNT. < 1337851269 191845 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, unless you run as admin. < 1337851270 793396 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win95 is more secure (viruswise) than 7 nowadays? < 1337851272 770728 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1337851278 589420 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: Only by obscurity. < 1337851291 553934 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS is also pretty secure by that notion. < 1337851319 113509 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a slice of bread "the most secure computing platform" < 1337851333 10768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, /can/ Wine executables call Linux syscalls? < 1337851342 785588 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, yes. < 1337851347 316411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd sort-of expect Wine to translate them into somethinge lse < 1337851349 95531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*else < 1337851349 461300 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stanislav recently called a brick "Lisp-like" by some measures < 1337851350 985296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps not < 1337851355 25758 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he was making fun of something < 1337851359 504389 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Wine isn't that extensive. < 1337851369 231144 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's actually most akin to Microcosm in structure. < 1337851369 979718 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I recall reading that WINE binaries can use Linux syscalls. < 1337851384 639161 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means that a WINE-aware program... < 1337851389 408065 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.loper-os.org/?p=405 < 1337851398 732742 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checks if Linux syscalls work, and, if they do, load libc.so, etc, and follow a slightly different codepath. < 1337851402 278596 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a PE loader and dynamic linker, with a set of libraries, with some hacks so *those* libraries can link against Linux libraries. < 1337851441 831028 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, I think it's actually a set of hacks so some of its libraries are straight-up provided by .so files. But anyways.) < 1337851476 895519 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah, and for maximum compatibility, part of DOS and a Win16 environment (which manages to work on x86-64). < 1337851497 788437 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337851498 166464 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, I was wondering if Windows used the interrupt in question for something else, in which case it would have to < 1337851502 847997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1337851504 816510 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337851509 236496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : in particular, I was wondering if Windows used the interrupt in question for something else, in which case it would have to < 1337851513 531441 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See logs. < 1337851570 442372 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, Windows has the interesting property that the system calls are *not* part of the userspace API. < 1337851592 59450 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interrupts used to get into kernel space are known to change with individual *patches* sometimes. < 1337851617 91023 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the only interrupts used by Windows are DOS interrupts, and those only for Win16. < 1337851636 558862 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And those don't interact too well with Win16 anyways. < 1337851644 666628 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not all of them. < 1337851679 347129 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, WINE does implement them even on x86 systems *without* the virtualized real mode... < 1337851686 86615 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder how it does that, actually. < 1337851707 239381 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, right. No, it probably doesn't. < 1337851738 691527 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win16 programs need to work in protected mode, because configurations of Win2.0 or Win3.x would actually do that. < 1337851786 229509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :win3.1 ran in protected mode by default, if it existed on your processor < 1337851821 592717 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. 16-bit protected mode is, nevertheless, protected mode. < 1337851848 893944 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I guess anything using DOS interrupts on Win16 would just break horribly on popular configurations of it. < 1337852042 883408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for DOS programs, it dropped into real mode temporarily to run them < 1337852062 54759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had a secondary alt-tab handler for that case so you could switch away from them < 1337852079 837186 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose on 286 protected mode it would have. < 1337852110 882581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: As far as I know, 3.1 no longer ran on real mode at all; that's why it required at least a 286. (Though it had a separate "386 enhanced" mode.) < 1337852120 904178 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On 386 protected mode it would preëmptively multitask a bunch of virtual DOS machines. < 1337852134 504511 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As of August 2011, even the newest x86 CPUs (including x86-64 CPUs) start in real mode at power-on and can run software written for almost any previous chip (with a few exceptions due to slight instruction set differences)." < 1337852163 71804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, was that it? < 1337852179 767109 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I think the main thing is the absolute latest Intel chips *finally* stopped disabling A20. < 1337852180 921502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that both preëmptive and coöperative have a diaeresis < 1337852202 387313 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A20? < 1337852210 235407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they planning to reuse the opcodes for the BCD stuff for something else < 1337852211 761140 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't no much about this stuff < 1337852222 720649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Also, you can't do the virtual-8086 mode while in the 64-bit "long mode", i.e. when running a 64-bit OS. < 1337852228 16091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: one of the address lines, it was repurposed for something dubious on the basis that nothing had that much memory anyway and they needed a pin < 1337852239 492159 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With 286-and-up based IBM PCs, the 20th address line was disabled by default. < 1337852252 106437 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, 21st, sorry. < 1337852255 13408 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 indexed lines. < 1337852288 953939 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was to emulate the wrapping behavior of earlier Intel CPUs, which only had 20 address lines. < 1337852299 473050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: IIRC, they repurposed a pin from the keyboard controller to enable/disable it; it was disabled for backwards compatibility reasons, so that the one-megabit wrapping would work. < 1337852309 399981 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was more shocked at the still supporting real mode thing < 1337852321 980360 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The upshot of which is that you had ~1M of *address* space, but only 640k of actual memory max. < 1337852323 42114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the keyboard controller was repurposed for several dubious things, like rebooting < 1337852330 512666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that they'd have used the address bus pin for anything dubious. < 1337852332 906161 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was a way to go protected -> real ever introduced? < 1337852333 179043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although people later decided that triple-faulting was easier < 1337852341 448435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yep, that's what the keyboard controller reboot was for < 1337852342 721922 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, in 386. < 1337852352 114282 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before that you needed keyboard controller reboot. < 1337852354 264771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they added an official method eventually < 1337852358 671627 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 386. < 1337852366 188858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it triple-faulting, or something else? < 1337852378 121297 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something else, I don't recall what it was off the top of my head. < 1337852394 762868 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was essential to making DPMI reasonable, though. < 1337852401 707697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(triple-faulting: when you have an exception in the exception handler /for/ the exception handler) < 1337852432 644077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, both Linux and Windows still try the keyboard handler as the final fallback for when they can't find any other way to reboot a machine < 1337852454 258998 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Linux still has intentional-triple-fault somewhere. < 1337852484 282947 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Anyways, the reason why x86 CPUs still support real mode is pretty simple... < 1337852515 32987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Linux's reboot method is actually currently identical to Windows' < 1337852535 795020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they reverse-engineered Windows' methods in the end, rather than trying to follow standards, on the basis that all the hardware manufacturers were only testing with Windows < 1337852537 485288 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: A CPU, when it starts, needs to start executing at a known address, so the startup code will run, right? < 1337852556 979423 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: So, waaaay back in 8086, they set that up. So, the BIOS was stuck there. < 1337852583 338499 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, Linux, IIRC, used an intentional triple fault for rebooting. < 1337852626 599807 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: And this has never changed, because you would essentially end up creating a CPU with an utterly incompatible boot scheme. < 1337852640 130256 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, for obvious reasons, the BIOS expected to run in real mode. < 1337852657 586193 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, all x86 CPUs support real mode to some extent. < 1337852669 618993 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets better: EFI systems still start this way, too. < 1337852688 479180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :arch/x86/kernel/reboot.c: http://p.zem.fi/st2n < 1337852691 244302 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it because the CPU expects it? < 1337852711 409518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an extra triple-fault fallback at the end. < 1337852712 504664 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No, it's because you don't want to make EFI-only CPUs. < 1337852716 88154 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even with a ... I don't know much about EFI other than being an alternative to BIOS < 1337852718 81249 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm pretty sure Windows actually complies with standards. < 1337852743 98146 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's just that merely working with something that complies with standards doesn't mean much. :) < 1337852758 658666 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: EFI is essentially *just* different startup code. < 1337852789 675325 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of the CPU starting at 0x9000 (was that where it starts? I don't even remember) and running the BIOS, it starts at 0x9000 and runs the EFI firmware. < 1337852806 14413 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different enough that the OS needs to expect it? < 1337852829 447252 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, *yes*, it presents a somewhat different API. < 1337852830 451089 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what does it mean that I find funny that after the normal shutdown sequence, Linux acts kinda like a human operator kicking on a machine going "Hello?? Why arn't you working?" < 1337852849 482290 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, hm? < 1337852861 242238 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337852873 796010 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's still following standards, but it's pointless, but some real-life hardware actually relies on it doing that < 1337852875 878159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1337852877 949294 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337852899 476151 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What I'm trying to say is, it's not *Windows* fault at all. < 1337852908 894778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1337852914 186761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the hardware manufacturer's fault < 1337852916 576169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for only testing with it < 1337852919 892695 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have perfectly reasonable behavior, the rest of the world is just insane. < 1337852923 770622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like screenscraping < 1337852936 676834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't really blame the website when it stops working < 1337852967 495515 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: "The reset vector for the 80386DX and later x86 processors is 0xFFFF0, although the value of the CS register at reset is 0xF000 and the value of the IP register at reset is 0xFFF0. In actuality, current x86 processors fetch from the physical address 0xFFFFFFF0. This is due to a hidden base address portion of the CS register in real mode which defaults to 0xFFFF0000 after reset." < 1337852973 988370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it was ffff:0000 for 8086. < 1337852977 552607 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: A handful of things in x86 don't work consistently in all systems; shutdown is one of the big areas. < 1337852985 866488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I.e. physical ffff0.) < 1337853003 744461 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't confuse x86 with the PC platform < 1337853007 497279 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Because of this, Linux basically tries a random smattering of different things. < 1337853029 247414 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1337853040 969372 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no reason to expect that all x86 systems would have the same shutdown sequence < 1337853050 75814 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust me when I say your computer is, at its basis, a pile of hacks. < 1337853051 394661 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a function of the platform and not the CPU architecture < 1337853062 856617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you'd expect them to have the same reset vector, though < 1337853074 122999 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you'd expect all IBM PCs to have the same one. ... Not that it works that way. :) < 1337853084 20419 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, this is fascinating, I want to learn more about these "hacks" < 1337853106 225172 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the osdev wiki has some info < 1337853110 411033 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1337853127 701563 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You'd "love" how you figure out the address space map, then. < 1337853135 714916 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fun fact, it was standardised in *2002*.) < 1337853161 140229 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: write a real mode graphics demo which uses 640x480 resolution and fits in a boot sector < 1337853182 875712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure what is referred to by "address space map". Mapping what? < 1337853201 213800 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't just refer to memory by a single number, I guess? < 1337853201 624752 :ais523_!~ais523@147.188.254.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337853210 348426 :ais523_!~ais523@147.188.254.178 QUIT :Changing host < 1337853210 542724 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337853224 714844 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Some parts of the non-virtualised address space are in use. For instance, there's a chunk of memory dedicated to the BIOS, some to the video framebuffer, some for ACPI... < 1337853245 780327 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kernel needs to know about this so it doesn't allocate over them and break stuff. < 1337853250 666479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1337853253 681017 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337853260 617052 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't < 1337853266 176442 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, well, ok. I'm going to guess that it's not as simple as "Anything below this number is reserved stuff"? < 1337853271 778185 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Triple fault pretty guaranteed to reset the system? < 1337853279 468498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: not much else it can do < 1337853288 810578 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Nowhere *near*. In part because real mode makes that really hard. < 1337853289 532096 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, shut it down? < 1337853315 74884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm sure there's *some* processor that has a more or less configurable reset vector. Quite a few let you configure endianness, after all. (Okay, scoped into x86 you'd expect it to be same.) < 1337853320 979344 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Some of that reserved stuff is at the high end of the 16-bit address space. < 1337853339 419296 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!Fun!! < 1337853348 983223 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Normal real mode programs would run *below* that point, and it was reasonably well-known where the BIOS would be. < 1337853350 941733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there's quite a lot of stuff around the one megabyte limit. < 1337853358 117198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.osdev.org/Memory_Map_(x86) lists some stuff. < 1337853369 68488 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, there's anything added later. < 1337853393 557951 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could very well have gotten allocated at random points, because the evolution of the design is *weird*. < 1337853412 32402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a hole between 15-16MB, too, for memory-mapped ISA stuff. < 1337853446 749713 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337853452 695104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337853456 310561 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned the other day that the default location for RAM used by System Management Mode is under the VGA framebuffer < 1337853463 555329 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337853472 897855 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, accesses to those addresses in SMM go to RAM, in other modes they go to VGA hardware < 1337853480 410327 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By far the best way to detect the memory of a PC is by using the INT 0x15, EAX = 0xE820 command. This function is available on all PCs built since 2002" < 1337853482 3438 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, that? < 1337853497 891161 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yeah. < 1337853515 101181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, Microsoft are shooting themselves in the foot (although maybe not quite as badly as Yahoo!) with VC++2012 < 1337853526 237987 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, howso? < 1337853530 307553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to pay for the expensive pay version to compile anything but Metro apps < 1337853537 816232 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In effect, they're deprecating Win32. < 1337853555 257973 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the only thing keeping Windows at all relevant. < 1337853561 887056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can check early dmesg for what your own computer's memory map looks like. It'll have a list like http://p.zem.fi/ujz1 < 1337853615 589712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well, there are free compilers for Win32 right? < 1337853650 714136 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everybody just goes on to use mingw32? < 1337853652 920267 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right < 1337853672 753831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes; cygwin (produces executables that depend on a GPLed library, deliberately); mingw (produces properly native executables); apparently nowadays also clang < 1337853723 603635 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cygwin can also be used to generate non-cygwin binaries. < 1337853730 701799 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this usage, it's basically mingw, though. < 1337853740 466853 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I mean "literally". < 1337853752 563835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: indeed, and a relatively crippled mingw at that < 1337853759 973671 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1337853762 163285 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's stupid. < 1337853886 729916 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "fun" is that ISA is basically still around. < 1337853898 728533 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, nearly dead, but hey. < 1337853928 456445 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nelhage's qemu breakout exploit involves hotplug-removing the emulated ISA bridge < 1337853949 921514 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certain devices are hanging off a bus that looks like the ISA bus to software, and IDE is literally very fast ISA. < 1337853964 870500 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, IDE is dead or dying. < 1337853984 850552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many hardware monitoring chips are "ISA" devices. < 1337853998 720020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337854026 913547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ sensors < 1337854027 149399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :it8718-isa-0228 < 1337854027 149599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adapter: ISA adapter < 1337854072 597301 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :temp3: +85.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +112.0°C) sensor = thermal diode < 1337854077 406530 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... Can't be right. < 1337854083 233415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those things are also such a mess. Everyone wires the resistors differently, lm-sensors configuration files are full of "well, it's this chip, but we need to either multiply this by two or divide it by three depending on which MB it is". < 1337854114 254667 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the labels are mostly guesswork too. < 1337854130 493703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just labeled my voltage numbers manually based on which number they're closest to. < 1337854262 575571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have a rather large wiki of configurations, http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Configurations < 1337854339 346699 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, jeeze, yeah... Also, compact flash. < 1337854358 317925 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Electrically compatible with ISA and IDE. < 1337854374 868921 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And PCMCIA, of course. < 1337854478 563849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337854496 341618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, someone's filed in the Wiki computation rules that might work for my Atom box. That's nice; currently the voltage readings are +1.68, +1.16, +1.50, +0.94, +1.10, +0.82, +0.94, +1.53 and +1.50. Apparently those should be multiplied by 2, 1, 1, 5.255319148, 11, 5.255319148, 2, 2 and 2, respectively, in order to get actual voltages. < 1337854779 539173 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337854830 430390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1337854832 23784 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337854972 532074 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337855051 18737 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1337855138 587558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337855149 954335 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337855361 990039 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.27.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337855784 736825 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS dev is not a CS subject, right? < 1337855791 264561 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what sort of thing is it? < 1337855884 435925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337855919 781065 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is a powerful feeling for the only code to be running on a machine to be your own." < 1337855927 384228 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about BIOS/EFI, that's not your own code... < 1337856090 102280 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that isn't running after boot < 1337856100 124001 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but SMM is < 1337856117 267496 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is the firmware on hundreds of special purpose controllers all over the motherboard < 1337856165 591762 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.27.253 QUIT :Quit: http://retroprogramming.com < 1337856183 703209 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's common for CS programs to have OS courses < 1337856200 990434 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ah < 1337856211 348923 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CMU's is supposedly very good < 1337856215 272902 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIT's 6.828 is very good < 1337856216 303311 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they discuss what things must do on actual hardware? < 1337856220 275308 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The course I took did not < 1337856225 311162 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in large part < 1337856241 113096 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The professor wrote a program in .NET with a simulated CPU < 1337856248 445412 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 6.828 you write substantial parts of an OS that can run on a real PC < 1337856251 643956 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We would write algorithms for various things as plugins in C# < 1337856265 697839 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is MIT's course on Open CourseWare or whatever? < 1337856277 13612 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the more arbitrary details of x86 are dealt with in code that's provided to you < 1337856283 582418 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is explained and they go into some detail < 1337856296 313757 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way i recently came across http://www.returninfinity.com/pure64.html < 1337856302 239644 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I'm stuck in a shitty school < 1337856329 733327 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i don't remember if it's formally on OCW... but I had no trouble finding the labs online < 1337856364 772775 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only done the labs where you work on JOS, the cool "exokernel" OS < 1337856386 622736 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You end up writing code that gets plugged in as part of the simulation rather than as code that executes on the simulated computer." < 1337856397 290651 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^just said that to my gf explaining what the course is like < 1337856398 112528 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't looked at the other parts of the course, like the parts that deal with xv6, which is a UNIX-like OS < 1337856407 126083 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's double lame < 1337856420 521408 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for something claiming to be an OS course < 1337856428 395355 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a good way to approach CPU architecture, though < 1337856438 434417 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.004 is another very cool MIT class < 1337856462 169114 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the idea was to understand the algorithms behind, say, fixed partitioning memory whatchamacallit < 1337856464 648702 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you design a RISC CPU at the level of individual logic gates < 1337856483 954472 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I wish I went to MIT < 1337856492 790235 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :their simulator is very simple, nowhere near as much complexity as an industrial HDL < 1337856525 408069 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the simulator is specific enough that you can play with timing and try to optimize your design for higher clock speed < 1337856531 358717 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I've never been an MIT student < 1337856536 126643 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-828-operating-system-engineering-fall-2006/ < 1337856537 574412 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This? < 1337856552 105135 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :labs are here: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2011/ < 1337856594 388347 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, how are OSDev's tutorials? < 1337856604 2356 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1337856611 564006 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've just used it as a reference to a few specific things < 1337856816 296702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337856859 186370 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All of the 32-bit registers (EAX, ...) are still usable, by simply adding the "Operand Size Override Prefix" (0x66) to the beginning of any instruction. Your assembler is likely to do this for you, if you simply try to use a 32-bit register." < 1337856867 947767 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess assemblers aren't as trivial as I thought < 1337856911 503148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assemblers still just do symbol resolution (and much of that's done by the linker nowadays), and convert opcode names into machine code < 1337856917 321729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just there are a /lot/ of opcode names nowadays to convert < 1337856940 839454 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some OS designers think that it is simpler and cleaner to temporarily return to Real Mode on those occasions when it is necessary to access a BIOS function. " < 1337856955 71140 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I guess it wasn't simpler and cleaner when the CPU had to be restarted, right? < 1337856966 181445 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What OSes do that? < 1337857089 508083 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :". Probing memory-mapped PCI devices may have *unpredictable results* and may theoretically *damage your system*, so once again we discourage its use." < 1337857344 781779 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 assembler's job is actually pretty easy compared to some architectures < 1337857404 279067 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait what < 1337857428 530631 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What architectures have assemblers that need to do significantly more than what amounts to a find and replace? < 1337857453 709968 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1337857480 260057 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on ARM a simple "load from immediate" encodes in kind of a complicated way < 1337857503 27459 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the assembler might translate it to a load from memory, and put a constant into memory somewhere < 1337857575 898562 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also conditionals work totally differently depending on which variant of ARM you're using and which CPU mode it's in < 1337857589 146274 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most ARM chips support switching back and forth between at least two instruction sets, ARM and Thumb < 1337857604 113888 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the assembler has to keep track of that as well < 1337857704 235724 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the linker can generate additional instructions as it links, and there's a register reserved for this purpose < 1337857730 561458 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is not directly a concern for the assembler, however) < 1337858184 585808 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: on Itanium the potential parallelism between instructions is explicitly encoded in the machine code < 1337858200 525045 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some assemblers can figure this out for you automatically < 1337858256 15888 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does doing that mean more microoptimizations are possible for programmers willing to mess with the machine code, or is it a matter of what will make the chip be faster, or what's the purpose of that design decision? < 1337858311 27174 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the idea is to have less complex (and therefore, all else equal, faster) hardware < 1337858329 477828 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, also, those computations at assembly-time rather than run-time I guess' < 1337858344 920512 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :explicitly encode parallelism instead of having the CPU figure it out on the fly < 1337858353 17911 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLIW < 1337858358 59857 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know much about VLIW though < 1337858393 238891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, I don't think VLIW-architecture compilers have been so incredibly clever after all. < 1337858403 967058 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1337858419 35005 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though VLIW or no, a good compiler still needs to know a lot of microarchitectural details in order to produce good code < 1337858438 919364 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun to run the same code through gcc with various settings for -march=... and see what it produces < 1337858504 905188 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Itanium you explicitly encode the parallelism; on x86 you read about how the chip will infer the parallelism and then explicitly arrange instructions so it infers what you wanted ;) < 1337858980 643543 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337859165 979973 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337859567 59331 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337859610 711859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337859651 248760 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337860750 451024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337860753 479190 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337860782 764730 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais532 < 1337860786 787025 :ais532!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337861253 598458 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337861403 101127 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-230.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337861407 562095 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-145.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337862089 981462 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337862096 116106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337862112 490854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337862393 436336 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337862517 848532 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337863668 550584 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337863723 393765 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337864051 689504 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337864243 653984 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337864244 970751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1337864247 716705 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337864535 371839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.groklaw.net/pdf3/OraGoogle-1193.pdf < 1337864538 272270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1337864554 326004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a scanned-in version of all the questions the jurors asked in oracle v. google) < 1337864694 747144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337864707 630207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337864921 887834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's oragoogle going? Have they decided the copyrightability of API thing yet? < 1337864949 340159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing the judge was going to decide by himself. < 1337864983 369535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can read groklaw myself, though. < 1337865073 635440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please provide more notebooks for Phase 2." indeed! < 1337865080 475729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, no copyright progress < 1337865085 541524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :google won on all the patent allegations < 1337865456 922387 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Smart jury. < 1337865475 964449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, now that the full story's coming out it seems that they were < 1337865485 939275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you read one of the interviews with the jury foreman < 1337865496 773464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who was the only one who did interviews after the trial) < 1337865503 980095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to know how the court case about my ISP blocking Pirate Bay is going. They did it in early January (when someone had managed to dream up a list of DNS names and IP addresses), and the decision itself from the lowest court came in October 2011; IIRC they immediately filed an appeal, but I haven't heard anything about it, even though it's been seven months now. And there's no web ... < 1337865509 948294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... thing that I know of to follow on these things. < 1337865606 256569 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Can you explain the difference between a package an an API" < 1337865611 271258 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they had no programmers. < 1337865630 308197 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, if they had even a single programmer, it would likely end VERY quickly. < 1337865663 270689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they had programmers, they kicked them out. < 1337865734 227770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, there were several people who knew about programming in the jury selection pool, who got excluded for one reason or another < 1337865744 792287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(knowing about programming seems to have been enough of a reason to exclude…) < 1337865760 947226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the jury were selected to not know about the issues in advance < 1337865772 721627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know, just plain knowing anything about the matter in question is usually a reason enough. < 1337865800 392182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were also some lawyers in the jury selection pool, they got excluded too < 1337865823 960414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely wonder why they even bother to put lawyers in the pool, they're basically guaranteed to get excluded from every case < 1337865835 229999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION much prefers the UK system < 1337865857 707253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where they just take the first 12 random people, unless there's a really obvious reason why they shouldn't be there, like being a relative of the defendant < 1337865863 894012 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The jury selection pool is random, neither your profession nor background is relevant until the actual selection process. < 1337865893 572720 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yeah, the very existence of a selection process is somewhat suspect. < 1337865909 941835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also specified by law, so they can't just drop people that they thing are likely to be dropped, I suppose. < 1337866084 143350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have much of a jury thing, though the district courts have this "lay judge" people. < 1337866131 53991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Sweden is very close, except they have an actual jury system explicitly for libel and press-freedom cases. < 1337867213 744841 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337867235 434467 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337868214 27198 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm not sure I get the logic of that... < 1337868223 632551 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's somehow better to start with people with no prior knowledge of the subject at hand?? < 1337868409 162245 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, more notebooks? < 1337868410 812735 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geez... < 1337868547 717810 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Star Trek: The Animated Series any good? < 1337868596 83426 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95BF2.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337868855 574713 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337868884 651969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337869160 415886 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I know it has an episode which is written by Larry Niven which is just a straight copy of one of his short stories but with the Enterprise pasted in. < 1337869173 463078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337869176 564710 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Niven... Niven... < 1337869183 556453 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the name Larry Niven sound familiar < 1337869184 505496 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which also has the delightful side-effect of welding the Star Trek and Known Space canons. < 1337869193 166412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a well-known SF author? < 1337869343 881480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337869350 874389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337869750 716071 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if jury selection is like bfjoust < 1337869801 317235 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ... < 1337870008 795211 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've heard the name due to Creatures community < 1337870041 65905 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was some sort of text-based game < 1337870179 736300 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337870192 511208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337870308 330383 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1337870309 715370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regicides_of_Charles_I < 1337870314 497894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't followed the link yet, was just admiring the URL < 1337870392 983396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the page content is disappointing by comparison < 1337870406 754613 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Jury or Juror has the following question: "I'm Sick. Can I get a sick day without being discharged? Sorry." < 1337870590 332514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was discharged, in order to not hold up the trial, and also because the judge was worried about the illness spreading < 1337870620 559790 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd hate to miss Jury duty due to being sick < 1337870702 847719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably would if you'd already spent two weeks listening to the evidence < 1337870734 638577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the judge talking about the situation the following day (the whole jury'd been dismissed for the afternoon) < 1337870753 245140 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i could excuse myself from being in a jury < 1337870770 676044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he pointed out that there were three possibilities: he could arrest her and force her to serve (legally), but he thought that was a stupid idea; wait for her (she'd likely take at least a day); or discharge her < 1337870770 870390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the third option was the only really sane one < 1337870785 385203 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys have heard me chat.. i don't think it would take much for me to show its a bad idea to have me in there < 1337870849 814642 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an episode of Becker where the titular character is awaiting jury duty, and decides to bring a book about law with him since to his non-stupid mind that makes sense. At first in the juror interviews he says things like, "in fact, I've been reading a book about law and–" before they dismiss him, but by the end he realizes that even if he just says "book" he'll be dismissed. < 1337870864 47024 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yes i saw some of this on tv the other week! < 1337870943 377895 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember the book thing at least < 1337870987 823202 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337871022 522756 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if discussing jury duty excludes us all from doing jury duty? < 1337871048 933307 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1337871069 293232 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knowing enough about civics to realize that there exists a concept of jury duty excludes you from jury duty. < 1337871128 669274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337871283 178564 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how many of those in the jury subsequently took up programming hobby < 1337871284 560038 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337871337 609363 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, I doubt it's zero. < 1337871391 566361 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337871505 378328 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337871538 388722 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337871685 807514 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with this, i also thought up a new way to set up a school. that if you fail, some anonymous person in the class takes the fall for you. < 1337871723 329582 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although such a system could be exploited by those who don't have much morals, it may be highly motivating < 1337871893 408472 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, I'd imagine that at least one took up programming. I'm sure anybody able to fully understand low level stuff like that in the span of 2 weeks would do at least decently < 1337871896 817625 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Was that 2 weeks?) < 1337872006 895648 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were probably motivated to learn by knowing that there were consequences for failing to learn.. i think thats where i bridged the two ideas < 1337872467 709167 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :18<20itidus21> with this, i also thought up a new way to set up a school. that if you fail, some anonymous person in the class takes the fall for you. < 1337872468 930589 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways < 1337872485 270501 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :That really depends on the age group < 1337872492 866014 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I need to say what happens if you try that K-12 or pre-graduate? < 1337872498 692689 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And people will call you super-unfair post-graduate) < 1337872516 710412 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to unpost that after i posted it < 1337872544 11777 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can feel a spirit of fascism in it < 1337873443 498026 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had 3 exams today < 1337876433 532099 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-233-246.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337876581 419819 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-225-230.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337877178 299675 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm installing a new version of the JVM < 1337877201 781481 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the ad in the installer says Java is installed in 3 billion places, including cell phones < 1337877558 87162 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My old phone had it < 1337877595 442129 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just amused, because of the whole Oracle vs Google over Android thing < 1337877666 168041 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not counting Android. < 1337877686 405792 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on, my new phone has it < 1337877688 772143 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it is counting the large number of feature phones, which invariably have Java ME. < 1337877777 593879 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think either of my middle phones had it? < 1337877784 776972 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure, though < 1337878363 224677 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost surely did. < 1337878397 651227 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337878440 867794 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the only phones *without* a JVM installed on them in the past decade are Android phones. < 1337878458 426698 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure Windows phones don't have a JVM. < 1337878462 193384 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, iPhone has a JVM? < 1337878468 602309 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, iPhone definitely doesn't. < 1337878478 3714 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :window phone has JVM? < 1337878494 827612 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, apparently smartphones are weirder than I thought. < 1337878511 228258 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well featurephones didn't tecnicaly use JVM. they used KVM < 1337878512 668661 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write an apology to #scheme < 1337878518 645903 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I inflicted a clueless person on them < 1337878538 955155 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows phones are a .NET monstrosity on top of Windows CE, which is of course also a monstrosity. < 1337878556 604086 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :iPhone is quite fervently against VM languages, except for JavaScript. < 1337878564 813855 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And then only their VM) < 1337878636 547869 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Apple decided to permit Sun to do a port. Sun has not since bothered. < 1337878643 20642 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Oracle is unlikely to. < 1337878660 347511 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm. < 1337878683 110739 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As they seem to be moving into the lucrative "lawsuit" market. < 1337879008 751113 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, xz is REALLY slow. < 1337879078 589773 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if its compression ratio is worth its speed. < 1337879174 350427 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, although it sure is an impressive compression ratio X-D < 1337879184 244512 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just got a Snowflake root image to 20% original size. < 1337879379 762277 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I stopped using bzip2 and I just use gzip since it's faster.. slightly bigger but not too much difference between those two anyways < 1337879400 62378 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is xz significantly better than bzip2? < 1337879438 891134 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts SICP on his Nook < 1337879450 996665 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's unequivocally better. Whether it's significantly better depends on who you ask, the phase of the moon, ... < 1337879541 135629 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you can use it on the kernel, that's cool < 1337879711 954164 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GaussianGirl < 1337879718 716660 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most disappointingly-named trope? < 1337879859 517873 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337879892 979477 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>Named for the Gaussian Blur effect in Adobe Photoshop and imitators. < 1337879894 73359 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>imitators < 1337879967 292611 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-145.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337879973 747482 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337881889 888945 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337881898 524127 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337882132 611106 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337882315 608801 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Changing host < 1337882315 842241 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1337882449 813127 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337882615 923611 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb, FireFly, Gregor < 1337882631 32803 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1337883162 888145 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337884028 644446 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337884157 495696 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337884168 146051 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337884188 663270 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337884248 197866 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here know free shell account provider that lets users run ircbots < 1337884269 650118 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337884278 689151 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1337884574 431575 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1337884693 404854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it need to be still alive?-) < 1337884796 778254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does it count if it is a free shell provider but has an annual-cost membership tier which allows that? < 1337884842 803466 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :completepy free < 1337884899 745233 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, it is still a completely free shell provider (for some users), and it does let (some) users run ircbots, it's just that the two sets of users don't intersect. < 1337884989 309070 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to let free shell accounts run ircbots < 1337885025 441145 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: why not run it from your connection? < 1337885034 257888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337885113 482508 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.27.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337885137 218898 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.27.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Song contest? Like #songsincode or something? < 1337885168 919282 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.27.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which reminds me, there's still a few days left to enter http://code-poems.com < 1337885295 950035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: If IPv6-only IRC is okay, I think geekshells.org maybe? Haven't tried, but their front page mentions precompiled eggdrops. < 1337885330 424501 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133410.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337885339 296497 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: freenode requires SASL from users of my ISP < 1337885365 14329 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well I have my own ircbot coded in python < 1337885377 563307 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: what does that mean < 1337885434 698326 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: freenode block users of my ISP if their irc client/bots don't use SASL < 1337885553 897811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: You could get a v6 tunnel and run your IRC thing over that. (It's what I do at the moment, since they started doing that for my ISP too, and the bouncer I've been using doesn't do SASL.) < 1337885589 284989 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you also use elisa? < 1337885613 324690 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is sasl hard to implement? < 1337885621 487107 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does [calamari VERSION] meaŋ < 1337885626 969406 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: yes < 1337885638 861863 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked your client version < 1337885656 871865 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your client responded: -nortti_- VERSION AndroIRC - Android IRC Client (3.3.4 - Build 54a08b6-) - http://www.androirc.com < 1337885657 986277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: Yes. < 1337885667 727444 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wht? < 1337885673 441939 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*why? < 1337885679 921054 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1337885729 355873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not all *that* hard, based on the length (not terribly long) of the xchat/irssi SASL patches freenode distributes. (Still, it... might be a file before I can manage to do that for fungot.) < 1337885740 466958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/patches/scripts/ < 1337885743 702493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even a patch. < 1337885801 219506 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. but getting it to work is another thing. I have even more reasons to hate perl now < 1337885805 37391 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like there are a few free sasl implementations for python out there too < 1337885856 277062 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: if something under BSD/ISC/MIT/CC0/WTFPL shows up tell me < 1337885919 535877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the XChat scripts is in Python. Though admittedly it's GPL'd and they say it's broken by some Debian/Ubuntu patch, which is kinda weird. < 1337885974 921305 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. I don't really like GPL <=2 and hate GPL 3 < 1337886010 618725 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :must work for microsoft < 1337886032 792274 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. They are jusr toi restrictive < 1337886068 566707 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1337886102 901166 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was fan of GPL but nowadays I use WTFPL < 1337886264 731568 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think that calling linux distr < 1337886281 452604 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+os GNU/linux distros is stupid < 1337886317 589064 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :next step: FSF says linux has to be called stalmaniz < 1337887573 93630 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calling it GNU/Linux is not a matter of politics, just basic correctness < 1337887590 552776 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i frequently have occasion to talk about GNU tools on other kernels, as well as other userland on Linux < 1337887774 7882 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then it kinda makes sense but calling distro that has gcc+binutils as only gnu software GNU/Linux is stupid < 1337887797 378625 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :People DON'T call distros that have only gcc+binutils GNU/Linux. < 1337887801 554692 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of that matter of basic correctness. < 1337887808 331320 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most "Linux distros" have a lot more GNU software than that < 1337887830 936109 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is exactly *why* FSF cares what you call it! < 1337887834 360183 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually the most compelling reason to use the term, to disambiguate the vast majority of distros from those few unique ones. GNU/Linux = GNU userland, Android is not GNU/Linux. < 1337887869 195107 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're ignoring many of their contributions < 1337887915 315858 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: they don't? explain SliTaz GNU/Linux < 1337887950 774716 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what libc does SliTaz use? < 1337887953 125894 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what coreutils? < 1337887991 590861 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: glibc, busybox. and it doesn't include gcc and binutils on normal install < 1337888008 95651 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they use glibc < 1337888030 569429 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :glibc is a pretty major component, already on its way to being quite reasonably "GNU/" < 1337888107 808032 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to like GNU project, but refusing to acknowledge their contributions as a way to stick it to RMS is just churlish < 1337888123 537046 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a major component but still just one component. Should I call my distro jmld MUSL/Linux < 1337888132 933736 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up “churlish”. < 1337888133 206885 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like < 1337888164 883800 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: If you're only using gcc and binutils, you're about as GNU as BSD. :) < 1337888176 559717 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: I don't care if you do or not < 1337888195 905201 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I see someone in another channel call it "MUSL/Linux" i'm not going to be like "hey call it Linux, fuck that nortti_ guy" < 1337888263 629703 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I have nothing against them. I just don't like their licenses and that they want everyone to call every linux distro containing even a tiny bit of GNU software GNU/Linux < 1337888399 659738 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably would find it perfectly reasonable for SliTaz to call themselves something else. They're at best a border case. But it's not at all ambiguous for the vast, vast majority of distros. < 1337888639 907746 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.27.253 PART :#esoteric < 1337888712 979786 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you really want to call linux distro that has gcc+binutils+gnu coreutils+glibc GNU/Linux go for it but I still think it is kinda stupid. If it had something like 25% of software made by GNU I would use GNU/Linux < 1337888725 910762 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337888743 710443 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's dumb to put a number on it < 1337888754 593882 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is, i recognize the contribution of GNU, and I personally choose to acknowledge it < 1337888766 633495 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not going to like go into #ubuntu and yell at them all for saying "Linux" < 1337888836 162516 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337888841 864780 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not going to pick a fight, as RMS would, and as you did < 1337888877 609266 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know recognizing GNU's contribution to open source software does not require agreeing with every crazy thing the FSF says < 1337888881 512582 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even particularly like the GPL < 1337888898 933817 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ny distro is GNU/Busybox/MUSL/Linux < 1337889059 986321 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah. they have done much good for open source but also mach bad for it < 1337889093 545038 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think there is more good things they have done < 1337889148 700830 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't see the big picture.. just how good is the best unix system? < 1337889159 900169 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 good < 1337889183 414745 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sees the answer but add sthis anyway) that the free alternative takes this much work < 1337889197 541361 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is not as good < 1337889235 993662 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is gnu/linux not as good as the best existing unix? < 1337889257 885133 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what you're doing < 1337889258 703364 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it depends on how good the best unix is < 1337889260 333167 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a mysterious question < 1337889266 859193 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say Linux is something like a 17 < 1337889269 605600 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the standard goodness scale < 1337889274 496210 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hummm < 1337889283 466117 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mysterious question because it's a stupid question ;P < 1337889285 401621 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone even pay for unix anymore then? < 1337889290 644311 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things aren't ranked according to a clear goodness scale < 1337889331 645696 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe for privacy i guess < 1337889366 243621 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit offtopic but original unixen are free currently < 1337889370 426958 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-, out of what? < 1337889370 701002 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should look these things up and not ask the dumb questions < 1337889444 877784 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if by "GNU/Linux" you mean that you compile upstream sources and run those, then it's a disaster for security < 1337889445 425754 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I said, on the standard scale < 1337889458 522632 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Linux kernel devs don't even keep track of which commits are security-relevant < 1337889463 696290 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I think they deliberately obfuscate it < 1337889465 610882 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like asking < 1337889481 912451 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"out of what?" when somebody tells you it's 16 o'clock < 1337889487 500353 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a distribution to keep track of security, and to backport security fixes so you don't need a full upgrade < 1337889514 98386 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and based on paying a lot of attention to this for a while, Red Hat does a much better job than any of the distros you can get for free < 1337889693 274406 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1337889718 140612 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and CentOS will get you those updates for free, but only after months of delay < 1337889749 769833 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who was born in the year 2000 will have some confusion over why their world is linux mac and windows < 1337889756 647450 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel sorry for them < 1337889802 387993 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: what do yo mean? < 1337889812 607698 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't make much sense < 1337889914 878976 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it make more sense for people not born in year 2000? < 1337890005 229819 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it won't occur to them that windows is an attempt to cash in on the idea of GUI, and linux and/or GNU/linux is a free(or freer?) version of some programmers workbench(wiki) < 1337890021 951314 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would just have to invent their own idea of what linux and windows are < 1337890059 750857 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are barely coherent < 1337890165 500425 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: occured for my little sister born in 2000 and for me born in 1997 < 1337890182 434802 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: you were born in 1997? < 1337890200 972788 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337890203 366261 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1337890210 420311 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1337890214 307637 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel old < 1337890239 765127 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :when were you born? < 1337890265 826437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, a post-Windows 95 birth is kinda weird, yes. < 1337890323 354374 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1337890329 165447 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: 1988 < 1337890331 207727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just is. < 1337890333 903417 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost 10 years before you < 1337890342 837465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I feel old when younger people say "I feel old", like now. < 1337890347 383747 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's form a 1988 club < 1337890351 958563 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bein' born like it's the 80s < 1337890369 295683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being born is so 80s, no-one gets born nowadays. < 1337890513 510693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: shaddap, whippersnapper < 1337890525 15705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was kind of waiting for that. < 1337890528 484935 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some simple replacement for /dev/dsp? < 1337890546 216158 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? you want to send raw PCM data to the sound card? < 1337890551 923874 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at sox and play < 1337890598 556997 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah.. it's kinda sad that ability is gone now < 1337890602 512086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, if you have code written for a /dev/dsp, 'padsp' LD_PRELOAD-emulates it with Pulse. < 1337890725 375375 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by gone and when? < 1337890815 111369 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: gone meaning /dev/dsp no longer exists < 1337890849 587787 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :from since when? Slitaz seems to still have it < 1337890873 550845 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should read SICP at some point < 1337890962 281807 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did the remove it? I still want to be able to drive other people crazy with find / > /dev/dsp < 1337891046 341850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a great loss to harassment technology < 1337891410 102969 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Beat Linux devs a bit. < 1337891414 161344 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause ALSA suuucks. < 1337891429 520493 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound on linux :D < 1337891479 705606 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never had problem with it. but then again I have only used IBMs and POMIs < 1337891740 397414 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: well its weird cos when i was young 8bit NES was this exciting thing.. and infact the first game we got for it was pinball.. and stayed up all night playing that.. < 1337891764 707789 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next day xmas day our relatives had been told about this NES thing we have so were able to get even more games < 1337891770 427401 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a very whoa kind of day < 1337891801 326721 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :up till that point most exciting possession would have been the slotcars < 1337892121 316022 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for operating systems, i had some version of dos with qbasic1.0 included, then windows 3.1, we probably had win 95 i can't even remember, then win98SE, < 1337892176 55524 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and video games, i had pretty much stopped playing them by the time your sister born :-D < 1337892293 153896 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: My first computer was also DOS machine (well it also had win95 but after I learned how to use dos I preferred CLI over GUI. < 1337892474 807525 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have always been hanging around the low ens < 1337892479 626522 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :&end < 1337892492 29310 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/&/*/ < 1337892595 627950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337892989 229162 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you should :) < 1337893010 379113 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/dsp was never a great interface < 1337893017 231427 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to use ioctls to set the sample rate etc. < 1337893021 390433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can copyright a db schema, right? < 1337893022 32090 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337893030 709202 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that sense, piping to 'play' is more convenient < 1337893038 589110 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-233-246.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1337893056 296610 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-233-246.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337893118 855268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:04:31: well, it makes some sort of sense to have the key with the rest of the source on their dev machines, because it's part of what you need to actually build and release the extension < 1337893133 528884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree, developers shouldn't have access to an important production-use private key... < 1337893148 701610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's a chrome-extension-signing key < 1337893151 409405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I stand by that, still < 1337893188 739206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also note the second Yahoo! employee reply right after the OP, who goes by the name: "?" - likely an abbreviation for "Yahoo?"." < 1337893192 304034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooooooooah < 1337893204 447980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1337893230 623635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:08:01: but still, a valid private key for Yahoo! is the sort of thing that criminals would find quite valuable < 1337893234 192504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not /that/ valuable < 1337893254 442421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all it lets you do is write a browser extension that people think Yahoo wrote for the next 5 minutes before Google special-case it < 1337893276 176927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:11:15: -!- cheater has joined #esoteric. < 1337893276 371107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:11:15: -!- ChanServ changed the modes of #esoteric: +b cheater*!*@*.adsl.alicedsl.de < 1337893276 371300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:11:15: -!- ChanServ has kicked cheater from #esoteric: User is banned from this channel < 1337893281 952758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :talk about persistent < 1337893341 328064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:38:52: Was a way to go protected -> real ever introduced? < 1337893347 457046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, and you can use it for "unreal mode" < 1337893359 299735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In x86 computing, unreal mode, also big real mode, huge real mode, or flat real mode, is a variant of real mode, in which one or more data segment registers have been loaded with 32-bit addresses and limits." < 1337893552 116806 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133410.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337893959 895174 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1337894000 976936 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.4chan.org/vg/src/1337824725371.png < 1337894331 106476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:36:24: OS dev is not a CS subject, right? < 1337894331 341100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:36:31: So what sort of thing is it? < 1337894334 578205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :software engineering? < 1337894616 644502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "interiour" a valid spelling in any dialcet? < 1337894617 743369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dialect < 1337894633 318254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/interiour Apparently. < 1337894665 424251 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :intereour < 1337894674 500345 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :British spelling is so complicated even Brits don't know how to do it. < 1337894690 615412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, in this case it's Australian English. < 1337894702 311737 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Australiuan < 1337894712 997321 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commonwealth spelling is so complicated even Brits don't know how to do it. < 1337894872 397336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :interious decouration < 1337894908 378014 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1337894924 781282 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meant to post that somewhere else. < 1337894969 579850 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone wrote a Scheme interpreter in LSL < 1337894988 820498 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should totally just fix it up to be usable for general scripts in SL < 1337895179 500944 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1337895396 806246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc! < 1337895398 158619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I need a map which can contain arbitrary values as long as their types are of the same typeclass." < 1337895419 677811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The joke is that they don't actually want that. < 1337895423 681403 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1337895430 434539 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already thought of a solution < 1337895463 546970 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "I" and "thought" are slight exaggerations < 1337895883 306290 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337895984 552178 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337896057 147662 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol.. < 1337896158 873293 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"interiour" < 1337896162 907802 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you kidding me X-D < 1337896237 603076 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for just kidding we might also say just joshing. i dunno which country that originates but its used in australia < 1337896250 117748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It's in Crawl's los.cc :P < 1337896274 685007 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: "Joshing" in that meaning was not uncommon in the US a few decades ago. < 1337896290 33728 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :top result says < 1337896292 770043 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :""Just joshing you" came from the late 1800's and has a very interesting story behind it! Josh Tatum was a deaf mute, but a very enterprising young man from the" < 1337896295 460640 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I can point to a line in MLP that uses it, and that's Canadian ;) < 1337896387 107300 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_did_the_term_just_joshing_you_come_from < 1337896394 542842 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a pretty cool story < 1337896538 949596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers asking the obvious question < 1337897338 218322 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok why TF is a stupid wrapper around an HTML renderer taking up so much memory < 1337897449 666415 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...] HTML renderer [...] memory < 1337897496 993811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337897539 489008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337897675 583904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally the answer to the obvious question was "yes". < 1337897761 607350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't even have to google, just follow a couple of links) < 1337898435 381919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the obvious question. < 1337898457 653796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"is that answer joshing us?" < 1337898486 886546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1337898539 570227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, the term is older than the events in the story, whether or not the story is true. < 1337898559 503619 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337899154 824466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm sad the story isn't true < 1337899158 292773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1337899239 350835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives elliott a lollipop < 1337899250 467789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- so upset < 1337899252 378133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :------O < 1337899308 469143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks more like a staff < 1337899670 710112 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337899821 896156 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337899870 801529 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A staff of lollipop. < 1337899877 937597 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1337899906 364863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*A +1 staff of lollipop. < 1337899977 33862 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A -O staff of lollipop. < 1337900006 699368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wished for 99 blessed greased fixed +42 staffs of lollipop < 1337900012 129752 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95BF2.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337900159 232221 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337900934 455703 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337901122 345397 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-32-139.resnet.ucsb.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337901122 580972 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-32-139.resnet.ucsb.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1337901122 581111 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1337901313 624523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Nethack.alt.org&curid=2459&diff=78074&oldid=74669 < 1337901318 106605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: NOW YOU'RE EVEN MORE FAMOUS. < 1337901644 708044 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZOMG < 1337901646 835049 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI ELLIOTT < 1337901822 421395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: What do quarterstaves of speed do? < 1337901855 947193 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're like quarterstaves, < 1337901857 55118 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but faster < 1337901867 181180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i use a +2,+1 quarterstaff of speed < 1337901870 360016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im ddak that's going to cast spelles < 1337901875 347708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also i have an axe < 1337901894 46540 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think speed is something like 2x speed but in dcss at least they have slightly nerfed damage uhh < 1337901906 848482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think also in dcss qstaves got buffed though so < 1337901909 554293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : a - a +2,+2 dwarven hand axe (weapon) < 1337901909 748441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : g - a +2,+1 quarterstaff of speed < 1337901910 253018 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1337901911 105038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`choices' < 1337901916 714420 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd use the qstaff < 1337901919 699134 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: choices': not found < 1337901920 19566 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's worse < 1337901947 81793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should be a DDAK stabber. < 1337901952 986888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who also does spells. < 1337902123 237294 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: choices': not found < 1337902125 226925 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoaaaaaaah < 1337902126 246012 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So deep < 1337902502 594412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337902889 585855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf http://www.dagbladet.no/tegneserie/gjesteserie/morketid/ (i don't _think_ you need to understand the text...) < 1337903076 253428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway let that be a warning to everyone to do careful testing of their time travel devices. < 1337903181 972946 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: DID YOU HEAR THAT < 1337903186 560911 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I'M FAMOUS? < 1337903192 276025 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337903193 720964 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: U+261D < 1337903204 107578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1337903215 395695 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID YOU HEAR THAT I'M FAMOUS? < 1337903252 680904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHITE UP POINTING INDEX? THAT'S RACIST < 1337903293 85414 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Unicode doesn't have BLACK UP POINTING INDEX. :-( < 1337903332 433556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode is racist, check < 1337903438 483085 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason it has BLACK LEFT POINTING INDEX and BLACK RIGHT POINTING INDEX, but not UP or DOWN. < 1337903440 498225 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's so weird. < 1337903450 100921 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ☺ ☻ < 1337903467 651182 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: AND RACIST < 1337903512 343559 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :😱 < 1337903517 107689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1337903606 299164 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1337903709 942046 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you famous shachaf < 1337903723 300320 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Ask elliott. < 1337903729 69838 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:15 shachaf: http://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Nethack.alt.org&curid=2459&diff=78074&oldid=74669 < 1337903731 983853 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:15 shachaf: NOW YOU'RE EVEN MORE FAMOUS. < 1337904215 704999 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ☹ < 1337904373 459970 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: there probably wasn't room for both, so they made room for WHITE UP POINTING INDEX < 1337904486 123210 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also theres WHITE FROWNING FACE but no BLACK FROWNING FACE < 1337904496 574072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lebensraum, as they say < 1337904559 937088 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric 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669851 :ineiros!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337907083 323807 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337907083 529981 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1337907083 530667 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337907115 175293 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337907682 117544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337907740 824801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the PC speaker driver broken on Linux? < 1337907787 512702 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It wasn't last time I checked? < 1337907793 129839 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :##trains < 1337907803 625516 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1337907966 942400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did find that the file "mzx_ascii.chr" from MegaZeux works fine as a Linux console font if the mappings are correct < 1337908127 182641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On the computer at FreeGeek I have tested this and it does work; now I can work on the mapping files to get it work better) < 1337908389 914757 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337908430 185102 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337908639 79443 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337908645 109376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written some thing on here in past, I thought about discardable functor and commutative applicative, now I also have idempotent applicative. < 1337909107 945624 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337909120 292047 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337909162 795411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337909244 598549 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337909526 675266 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337909530 40148 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337909934 496959 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337910354 956706 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337910363 625285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you played Super Bat Puncher (for NES/Famicom)? < 1337910785 360968 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337910786 303297 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats why i like the japanese... thats why i like the NES... thats why i like the word Super < 1337910804 398918 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because even though i have no idea what Super Bat Puncher is.. < 1337910813 716709 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337910922 407626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game is good quality (especially the secret level) but it is not yet completed being made. You can download a demo, however. < 1337911292 609723 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh then it must be a homebrew thing < 1337911463 370904 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337911467 955675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1337911515 422951 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337913405 712737 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337913966 527851 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337914511 955542 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337914549 948947 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337914901 900631 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337914958 57553 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337915263 656006 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337915463 636844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is esoteric song contest? < 1337915680 247247 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1337915698 541991 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337915740 827026 :Algo!~Algo@unaffiliated/algorithmiccontr QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337918081 953994 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337919428 498704 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1337920636 511914 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337921015 943213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heralds don't pun; they cant. < 1337921016 970927 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337921032 635049 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337921328 363161 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337921379 405920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did they change mathNEWS to make it slower and more confusing? < 1337921417 292271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes it difficult to read and understand, and difficult to find the current issue, too < 1337924029 302129 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337924087 444767 :qfr!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf JOIN :#esoteric < 1337924906 467021 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1337926093 527911 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337926095 801090 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337926254 351770 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337926358 578163 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337926472 660718 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337926732 567855 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337927024 25511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free (CoYoneda f) is *always* a monad regardless of what f is < 1337927184 230176 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1337927408 718993 :mr^swiFt!~benjamin@c122-107-201-146.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337927624 994706 :mr^swiFt!~benjamin@c122-107-201-146.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au PART :#esoteric < 1337929813 425600 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1337929935 905104 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337930005 750140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337930011 790525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages < 1337930012 317216 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1337930359 519283 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337931942 392276 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1337932159 117389 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337932186 791373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337932191 312167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QW-MICRO-TREX&Category_Code=QW < 1337932192 445997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he;lp < 1337932475 255042 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337932482 535780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QW-MICRO-TREX&Category_Code=QW < 1337932484 563402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb < 1337932485 413313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :assist < 1337932487 942289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :assist!!! < 1337932491 184305 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337932493 820378 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaargh < 1337932501 757795 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy < 1337932550 299772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1337932554 567616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant buy because < 1337932560 505854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i open the page again < 1337932562 42536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill be paralyse < 1337932578 401013 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you give me your address and bank details, I'll buy one for you < 1337932579 191422 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1337932614 874565 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go and read Guillaume Joseph Hyacinthe Jean-Baptiste Le Gentil de la Galaisière’s biography. :-D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_Le_Gentil < 1337932730 270789 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, alternate solution: disable images in your browser < 1337932787 816563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: heh < 1337932938 994135 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337933088 776024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to be confused: read http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2197 before http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2196 < 1337933180 700319 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337935270 72339 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337935270 266115 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337935270 266266 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337935345 621106 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337935716 914874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two spammers on Esolang today. < 1337935730 778910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What gives me satisfaction is that every single time we get spammed, someone had to learn something about esolangs to do it. < 1337935831 229199 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION carpe noctem < 1337935844 263496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337936452 991158 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, do you have an esolang captcha? < 1337936462 66935 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, actually < 1337936514 355906 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what's the captcha? < 1337936517 16080 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something could be broken, allowing the spammers to get through without doing the captcha < 1337936532 644328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: Try and edit a page logged out to see :P < 1337936546 774424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ConfirmEdit being broken would be pretty hilarious. < 1337936554 597048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: But no, I know that isn't happening. < 1337936568 832659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web server logs prove it, unless they're using advanced NLP and faking a real browser. < 1337936577 858344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the spam rate would be much higher if it could also get through automated. < 1337936669 668492 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that is an evil captcha.. < 1337936677 540463 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it better and ask general programming questions < 1337936680 709123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it evil? < 1337936684 919461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And there are multiple.) < 1337936735 572022 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be *evil* is gluing "prove P=NP" to a proof verifier. < 1337936756 477329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: Seriously, I don't get what's evil about it. < 1337936766 113956 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivia questions. < 1337936766 921040 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :XP < 1337936787 160565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: ...well, so? < 1337936788 486271 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is that for banned people? < 1337936808 697195 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You need to be at least this smart to edit (arrow pointing at Deep Thought)" < 1337936814 71648 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: Sure, why not. < 1337936832 559046 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if P!=NP < 1337936852 100028 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prove that either P=NP or P!=NP < 1337936856 309351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I need to rephrase that. < 1337936878 181252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prove either that P=NP, or that P!=NP. < 1337936890 938728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: You did notice the links, right? < 1337936893 759499 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Then they don't get to edit. < 1337936895 184840 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1337936919 269411 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1337936928 205205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1337936940 167264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want an evil CAPTCHA, but I still don't really see how it's evil. < 1337936980 627934 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1337936985 162377 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no. < 1337936986 912949 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil would be < 1337936989 698552 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giving a language sample < 1337936993 344122 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :And asking "what language is this"? < 1337937034 741517 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Choose between INTERCAL, Brainfuck, Underload, Befunge, ///, and Unlambda < 1337937065 650917 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't practically any text with matching square brackets valid brainfuck < 1337937073 707696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/practically // < 1337937097 286216 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I don't mean "valid as" < 1337937099 256441 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean "works as" < 1337937109 797876 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It *may* hit undefined behavior, but yes. < 1337937117 26229 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(namely, walking off the left edge of the tape) < 1337937123 389797 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, now I want to write a brainfuck-Underload-///-Befunge polyglot < 1337937132 730552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do so < 1337937133 976387 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The /// part sounds hard < 1337937186 880245 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337937196 78057 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +. < 1337937204 257986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a game on X-BIT called BATGUY, you have to select to pursue on foot, go by car, by helicopter, gun, climb wall, bazooka, send in Robin, or bet money. But everything goes wrong, there is a bomb in the helicopter, you eat the burger too much and cannot drive, trip over the ground, what else.... < 1337937222 218760 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (test)S < 1337937222 615789 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337937228 128425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :He sometimes chases the wrong guy < 1337937229 540070 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is the bot? < 1337937230 239444 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1337937312 34671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fungot < 1337937324 685913 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, plz fungot < 1337937532 888478 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does Befunge behave on unknown characters? < 1337937539 733161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :93 or 98 < 1337937543 295069 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both < 1337937547 808411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno check < 1337937549 398573 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either < 1337937552 780343 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is your favourite < 1337937600 200827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone has really bad aim... flying into Superman, blowing up the mayor's car, trip on the boots, the team trying to work together instead just collides and fall down, the ropes break, the engines break, they don't understand that the "R" stands for Reverse not Robin < 1337937647 915635 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 98, they behave like "r" < 1337937765 195510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you keep pointing the bazooka backward? < 1337938106 178938 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: In 98 they reverse, in 93 it's undefined but canonically they're noöps < 1337938118 899011 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like what 98 does < 1337938140 572680 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although I haven't read the '93 spec that closely so maybe it is defined there somewhere.) < 1337938211 902724 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337938345 129997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There "U" go. < 1337938375 359748 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I assume you've seen the recent update? < 1337938385 625825 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1337938400 284541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf_textgen brainfuck < 1337938451 576157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a fungot command. < 1337938452 796825 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's provably perfect, and i'd need to arrange it so that each new invocation doesn't hammer the log site... < 1337938480 607646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen brainfuck < 1337938485 512857 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​100 ++++++++++++++[>+>+++++++>++++++++><<<<-]>>.>++.<-.++++++++.+++++.--------.>+++.<---.++++++++.<----. [584] < 1337938491 322993 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...egobot < 1337938534 550870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: It's also not provably perfect, at least if the measure of perfection is program length. < 1337938535 648828 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and what fnord of associative array?' is that? < 1337938556 250093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What fnord of associative array indeed. < 1337938605 733541 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "the expression problem" is annoying. :-( < 1337938621 20392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why is it in quotes? < 1337938632 1981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:32 There "U" go. < 1337938641 328559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's made me happy "4" me, so "thx" "go" "2" "u". < 1337938664 231568 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Because that allows me not to take responsibility for the name. < 1337938678 220121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you understand how the use-mention distinction works. < 1337938686 137423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The 'Expression Problem'" would have been correct, though. < 1337938691 119783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can't include the "the" like that. < 1337938699 747521 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I can. < 1337938704 759163 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quotes are way overloaded in English. < 1337938713 774092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just that which makes that statement which you said incorrect, and that is just that which makes that confusing.. < 1337938715 571941 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a standard and perfectly valid use. < 1337938719 110413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.\.$/./ < 1337938731 839578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "The expression problem" does not seem standard at all to me. < 1337938734 804504 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish they weren't so overloaded, but since they are, I might as well enjoy it. < 1337938741 652588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The 'expression problem'" would have parsed fine. < 1337938752 47120 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, anyway, that's a name. < 1337938766 837933 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The *name* of the thing is "the expression problem". < 1337938771 733775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's not. < 1337938772 761859 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't deserve a definite article. < 1337938784 79165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proof by Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expression_problem < 1337938785 627521 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ain't gonna give it a definite article. < 1337938793 982850 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quoting Wikipedia. < 1337938795 480293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's your definite article. < 1337938804 432405 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap elliott < 1337938805 164110 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't perform such side effects on command! < 1337938821 543038 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The *point* is that it's annoying. < 1337938828 797853 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a solution for it? < 1337938849 716437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My position is that it illustrates a fundamental dichotomy between two styles of programming and is inherently (and fairly simply) unsolvable by definition. < 1337938881 77984 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care how you solve it. You can use a definition or an example or something else. < 1337938885 593234 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want it solved. :-( < 1337938888 748999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said it was inherently unsolvable. < 1337938910 888654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a problem which can be solved. < 1337938971 907088 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next you'll reduce it to the halting problem. < 1337939004 60913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1337939015 802561 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Rice's theorem is a good theorem. < 1337939019 381801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337939030 489328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell you why the expression problem is unsolvable, if you'd like. < 1337939041 625315 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is tired. < 1337939044 855331 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! Tell me. < 1337939107 451757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so the basic thing is: You can either define a union type, and write functions by discriminating on each case; this lets you add more behaviour (functions), but not more data (union elements). < 1337939109 957385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, < 1337939117 109577 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>++++++[>+++++++<-]<++++++[>++++++++<-]>->[[.<]>[>]<[->+>+<<]>>[-<<+>>]<])!(*)S(/*)(~(*)*:S~:^):^ < 1337939117 785628 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wee < 1337939125 243662 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck / Underload polygot < 1337939129 120403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define a product type with the implementations of the behaviour as the fields. < 1337939131 813010 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to add in something that isn't trivial < 1337939135 28551 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slashes? < 1337939139 237651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This lets you add more data, but not more behaviour. < 1337939167 356063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't do both, because what would it mean to add more data when there is existing behaviour? You would have to specify the result for every single behaviour on your new piece of data. < 1337939180 263419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since the whole point is that new behaviour can be added at will, this isn't possible. < 1337939196 957303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what would it mean to add new behaviour when there is existing data? You would, again, have to supply the behaviour for all the existing data, which is impossible for the same reasons. < 1337939212 207929 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all you've specified is the problem itself. :-) < 1337939224 332203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not really? < 1337939231 74499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I described the problem, and then told you why you can't do it. < 1337939241 227910 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1337939242 556278 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there < 1337939243 825668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Consider that the expression problem was first discussed in the context of a purported solution. < 1337939250 366184 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even a clean way to make a slashes/Underload polygot? < 1337939263 369865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My understanding of that solution is that it is not really a solution at all. < 1337939272 828635 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that solution is. < 1337939284 803823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.daimi.au.dk/~madst/tool/papers/expression.txt < 1337939290 269379 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you described is the thing that one immediately thinks about when one hears about the problem. < 1337939294 215454 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then one gets annoyed. < 1337939308 698974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a lot of distraction about recompiling and static type-safety and so on. < 1337939313 102320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't get annoyed. < 1337939323 52332 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1337939328 62502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Actually I find it a very enlightening description of the essence of OOP vs. functional programming. < 1337939342 632840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And going over the fundamental trade-off is a good way to decide which is appropriate in each case. < 1337939364 794584 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type classes vs. sum types in Haskell are in some sense a similar thing. < 1337939386 96557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I dislike your bringing of typeclasses into it. < 1337939394 243956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I very specifically phrased my description with normal data types. < 1337939407 694118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Behaviour = Behaviour { doThing :: Int -> IO (), zapBangName :: String } < 1337939420 140397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Data = A Int | B String String [FilePath] | C Octagon < 1337939426 904924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a :: Int -> Behaviour < 1337939440 30543 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, OK. < 1337939440 866188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a n = Behaviour { doThing = \m -> print (n + m), zapBangName = show n } < 1337939445 969379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doThingData :: Data -> Int -> IO () < 1337939453 85343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doThingData (A n) m = print (n + m) < 1337939453 998321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on. < 1337939475 325233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's important to do it this way, because the two approaches are on equal footing; they're both types. < 1337939496 427216 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't have that much to do with OOP, though. < 1337939505 441387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree! < 1337939512 942449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, things like Behaviour are the very essence of OOP. < 1337939531 160269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is great at OOP. < 1337939616 814655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So what is OOP, if not encoding things as behaviour? < 1337939629 197224 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1337939637 487782 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :An acronym. < 1337939650 393831 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first three letters of a not-very-good pop song < 1337939657 214466 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There you'll be with your "use-mention distinction" again.) < 1337939671 197068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What are the other letters? < 1337939684 790231 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIDIDITAGAIN < 1337939707 774676 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MR. SIDIDITA GAIN < 1337939722 931958 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's pronounced "GAÏN".) < 1337939804 669485 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to goto sleep; < 1337939867 943104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337939978 75812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1337939995 893339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Anyway, I've given up on solving things. < 1337940009 541802 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, solve the eurozone crisis < 1337940015 932593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No. < 1337940022 356774 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then solve the eurovision crisis (i.e., why does the UK suck at it) < 1337940029 776356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "eurozone crisis", do you mean "everywhere crisis"? < 1337940033 11713 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We want to make it easy to add either rows or columns." < 1337940034 441313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About some of these kind of things, there is the Typeable class in Haskell which can sometimes help too < 1337940036 978724 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't the obvious solution... < 1337940045 936519 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, slightly, yeah < 1337940047 822016 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functional features in an OO language? It's not like the two have any basic conflict. < 1337940059 719959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: That only lets you choose which you can add on a case-by-case basis. < 1337940069 3538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. for each type. < 1337940080 462949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is to be able to add both to any type. < 1337940080 657636 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYOB blends the two in a language aimed at children < 1337940117 950233 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's what you get when you mix Logo, Lisp, and JavaScript, essentially) < 1337940126 510432 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :and JAVASCRIPT < 1337940127 945277 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1337940128 943966 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1337940140 455776 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where it gets it's OO from. < 1337940143 615058 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prototype based < 1337940154 980162 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I see. < 1337940258 658800 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I was thinking about Prelude.Generalize this morning, which is probably a bad idea < 1337940355 525379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking is a bad idea? < 1337940481 799632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1337940567 606214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What idea did you think of, about it? < 1337940588 146043 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unchurch :: Peanoid a => ((a -> a) -> a -> a) -> a < 1337940596 849881 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unchurch f = f succP zeroP < 1337940597 676029 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peanoid? < 1337940598 169556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337940631 388031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: OK < 1337940755 555152 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also; instance Peanoid ((a -> a) -> a -> a) where zeroP = const id; succP = (<*>) (.) < 1337940814 428826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: OK, maybe < 1337940857 340897 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this makes church a specialization of transPeano, I think) < 1337940866 436107 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck!? freenode let my bot in! I love freenode < 1337940877 868882 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, you have a bot? < 1337940889 772636 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: elisa seems to be no more blocked < 1337940898 89068 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes. on #esoteric-en < 1337940947 273061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem possible to make it to add rows and columns to any type; but there are ways to do something close for specific purposes, one thing is object-oriented but there are other things too, possibly some things in "extensible-data" package might help in some cases, and maybe other uses of Typeable class such as: data Xyz where { Xyz :: forall x. XyzClass x => x -> Xyz; } deriving Typeable; class Typeable x => XyzClass x where { ... }; < 1337940986 198146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: So it seems. < 1337941119 848786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can it be completely possible in any programming language? < 1337941143 938463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems there must be some kind of restriction, either rows, columns, or uses. < 1337941566 28702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, too, have a unrelated problem: I need to figure out what words to use to lead the chancellor into the trap in the Dungeons&Dragons game. < 1337941616 24242 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oi! Chancellor! Come in 'ere if you think you're hard enough, matey!" < 1337941708 589269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best is also if we can get him to reveal where he hid the king, before he arrives. < 1337941844 773908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the chancellor is Yakra, and the real one is in a chest. < 1337941861 638774 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oi! Chancellor! We've found you're kingy, he was hidden in a real lame place! Come in here if you think you're hard enough, ya lame no-life!" < 1337941867 778186 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/scheme/comments/s8buc/monad_egg_for_chicken_scheme_released/ < 1337941868 728811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yakra? < 1337941876 454875 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me that Mr. [deleted] is not the author of the egg < 1337941907 301928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real one of what? < 1337941934 309907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the part where their monad is a functor < 1337941981 606367 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The linked page looks correct at least, but maybe someone fixed the page... who knows what's with the code < 1337942018 607406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yakra impersonates the chancellor twice in Chrono Trigger. < 1337942039 539370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that is what it is. < 1337942099 546519 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn Scheme macros at some point < 1337942193 326983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, but which Scheme macros? Syntax-rules, or syntax-case? < 1337942205 36576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I think it is the real chancellor but he is a bad person and has done bad things. My intention is make him dead without letting anyone know he is dead, but first require his autograph, so that I can compare his handwriting with the other handwriting. I already found the dummy < 1337942209 857178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the defmacro-alikes found in many Scheme implementations? < 1337942210 648190 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, whichever < 1337942212 426088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO MANY MACRO SYSTEMS. < 1337942224 717149 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, thanks for encouraging my decision paralysis :( < 1337942243 481395 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... think I'm going to try to stick with Chicken for a while unless there's a good reason not to < 1337942253 17369 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, crossdess and lure him into a honey trap? < 1337942258 455700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i have completely given up on influencing your behaviour in any way < 1337942261 98881 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although laziness in trying to set it up my stymie < 1337942267 536727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I do not understand. < 1337942268 754155 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might stymie me < 1337942277 341013 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crossdress < 1337942288 141780 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Utlilize his libido against him < 1337942340 974348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just going to /clear instead of reading the context to that < 1337942359 688825 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Chicken has syntax-rules and a low-level defmacroish macro system built in, and a syntax-case egg, so just sticking with it doesn't really help when it comes to selecting a macro system. < 1337942361 260434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I doubt I can do any of those things < 1337942397 469608 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, how good is your charisma? < 1337942422 383343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 < 1337942424 752069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suppose the syntax-case egg is for version 3. < 1337942435 98383 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it helps when it comes to selecting a Scheme < 1337942455 748414 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WILL WORK PERFECTLY < 1337942466 111677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the information about the game is available on my computer and can be accessed by internet < 1337942554 809037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changing my dress is unlikely to help < 1337942572 788547 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you get him drunk first? < 1337942587 608167 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, if they're all part of the same Scheme, then I just choose whichever I need in the specific situation, right? < 1337942611 398785 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are code-walkers easier in Scheme than CL? < 1337942628 819235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you completely fail to understand the situation... I need to tell him something remotely; we cannot see each other or touch each other before he arrives < 1337942643 567787 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1337942665 68299 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm out, then < 1337942709 507037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may need some scrolls of Locate Creature too < 1337942731 105049 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never actually played DnD < 1337942740 611715 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a player's handbook for some reason < 1337942749 782649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What version? < 1337942756 424897 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4th ed < 1337942767 197368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am playing 3.5ed. I don't like 4th ed < 1337942772 616254 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I ignoring Racket? < 1337942884 984846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1337942934 30413 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the Scheme interpreter in LSL < 1337942935 350277 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are still scheme features that are not implimented. Among these are the following: - There is no way to define macros. - There are no floating point numbers. - Procedures must be created using lambda. It is not possible to write (define (square x) (* x x)) - There is no such thing as a dotted pair! *gasp* - Cond, Let, Display have not been defined." < 1337942940 264645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the current situation in the game. < 1337942950 549150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My character is Kjugobe) < 1337942981 165368 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not likely to be much help < 1337943037 526987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the .dvi file but you may want the source it asks you what level of detail you want to print before it compiles. You also need dungeonsrecording.tex < 1337943174 968742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: But does it have continuations? < 1337943191 391173 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it. < 1337943232 381510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's such a Scheme thing it ought to be on the list. < 1337943245 29698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea was Icosahedral RPG; 4th ed changed many things I don't like and Icosahedral is changed from 3rd ed mostly in the opposite ways (this is mainly a coincidence; these ideas were much from before 4th ed was announced) < 1337943270 513769 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, 4th ed has CR but no LA, Icosahedral has LA but no CR. < 1337943494 589643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Icosahedral RPG also completes PC/NPC unification, something 3rd ed has partially done and 4th ed has abandoned. < 1337943646 730072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arcane magic in 3rd ed (and all earlier editions) is not sufficiently arcane (in my opinion), and in 4th ed it is not even sufficiently magic! < 1337943970 930691 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Going down for system reinstallation. < 1337943993 419731 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1337944012 342657 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Client Quit < 1337944512 501270 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The things that used CR in D&D are not used in Icosahedral RPG, so there is no need to have CR.) < 1337944581 705170 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/6mg5v.jpg < 1337944730 482905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Crawl Light has squarelos now! < 1337944776 925687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: THANKS TO ME. < 1337944779 129510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I told you this? < 1337944811 795772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a variant with knightlos < 1337944832 482525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds confusing. < 1337944837 913261 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You haven’t! < 1337944844 281881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it probably would be confusing < 1337944857 502617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: BEHOLD: https://github.com/dtsund/crawl-light/commit/4978bd01902f948a5bdbc00d48539a2d912523a7 < 1337944860 147886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should play Light! < 1337944876 400514 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have unfinished games on both CAO and CDO, btw. :-P < 1337944887 511479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You know how Crawl has a bunch of repetitive levels and could stand to have the branches a bit shorter? And also how curses are so meaningless as to be pointless? < 1337944904 157148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also how hunger is more of an annoyance than anything else? And also how the identificaiton game is kind of lame? And also how the LOS is a badly-approximated circle? < 1337944908 105198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIGHT FIXES ALL THESE THINGS. < 1337944910 635539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially the last one. < 1337944915 639645 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :-) < 1337944916 612696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I spent two days manually applying and fixing a patch. < 1337944930 994422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Anyway, two unfinished games is not nearly enough. < 1337945049 136325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Have I mentioned Light has a hard mode? < 1337945061 448328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of dragons and eyes of draining and multiple nasty uniques on the same dungeon level. < 1337945062 505920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's great. < 1337945066 617603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I mean draining? < 1337945069 49857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean devastation, I think. < 1337945312 632089 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-81-155.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337945382 717283 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the “circle” LOS is more like a rounded plus shape since diagonal moves have the same cost as horizontal and vertical moves, one could say you see further horizontally and vertically than diagonally. And the “square” LOS is more like a circle given the nonlinear topology. < 1337945403 748824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yes, exactly. < 1337945412 501359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: circlelos does ridiculous things like make it more advantageous to approach from a diagonal. < 1337945431 197452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: (I think the "rounded plus shape" is actually a diamond.) < 1337945452 79053 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it might be. < 1337945453 220537 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's MIT scheme like? < 1337945465 77659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: A Scheme implementation. < 1337945471 714239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: If I tell you the server, will you play Light? < 1337945471 908725 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: It has parentheses. < 1337945491 843461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Hint: The server is telnet light.bitprayer.com. < 1337945516 56848 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I might as well try it later. I’m watching mitx-6.002 lectures at the moment and there’s a deadline for the homework. < 1337945531 768432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Pfft, excuses. < 1337945639 329432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like to play as monster character in D&D game? < 1337945650 935803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: Did you know that? Heralds don't pun, they cant. < 1337945663 289269 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jim Florentine - Let Me Put My Brother On (Prank Call) http://youtu.be/2dy9lUJJGqI < 1337945860 46610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Too busy for Crawl but not for YouTube? :P < 1337945993 395131 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can do youtube for five minutes while eating something, crawl takes more time and more free hands. :-) < 1337946007 590227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can probably play Crawl with one hand. < 1337946028 966374 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337946230 613244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds dirty. < 1337948671 197231 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-254-112.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337948710 19026 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-10.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337948825 176908 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Door < 1337948900 444686 :Door!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1337949351 79157 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95BF2.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337950140 343400 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95BF2.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337950255 11035 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337950473 83431 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337950907 85960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1337951230 298917 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does Linden Labs prefix so many functions with the word Get < 1337951234 612891 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get this, get that < 1337951433 213587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They, too, are trapped in the Java Bean factory. < 1337951499 967629 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :ESOTERIC SPONGE CONTEST | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337952395 201179 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally, Luigi has a purpose! < 1337952693 841724 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1337954220 224016 :Guest2761!~dursino@myskyn.iet.unipi.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1337954248 276154 :Guest2761!~dursino@myskyn.iet.unipi.it PART :#esoteric < 1337954528 51270 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337955006 227715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had this great dream last night < 1337955009 578557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've forgotten most of it < 1337955343 212819 :ion!ion@heh.fi TOPIC #esoteric :ESOTERIC SPONGE PREGNANCY TEST | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337955858 218953 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337958422 70933 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: find a piece you can remember.. and it will link to more < 1337958439 97903 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it won't < 1337958448 783392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember more than a very few vague events; just images and the feel of it. < 1337958457 294000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it involved at least one foreign country. < 1337958904 439028 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1337959136 107751 :qfr!~kafir@death.to.religion.info.gf QUIT :Changing host < 1337959136 341605 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw JOIN :#esoteric < 1337959576 76223 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337959591 972078 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337959806 993295 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/25/psychologists-replace-rorschach-tests-with-misheard-lyrics < 1337959909 477871 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: that links doesn't work < 1337959920 515364 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats because it's a lie < 1337959929 490703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diabolical < 1337959940 447796 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a url knowing it didn't exist! < 1337959958 88282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diabolical < 1337959987 720674 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once purjored myself that way < 1337960019 667189 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^perjured < 1337960283 297711 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I both want to know the details and am praying that I never do. < 1337960308 651643 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lied again! < 1337960331 721061 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW CAN I BEST SUCH A MASTER OF DECEPTION < 1337960369 844531 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you don't need to. i just need to learn to communicate < 1337961606 971318 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The enemy has your lolly! < 1337961865 156323 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I need a hero who likes food. PacMan. < 1337961937 115062 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PacMan sequals = proof that < 1337962009 202760 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :professor pacman: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Profpacman.png < 1337962194 183466 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :break; < 1337962243 214314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337963212 563590 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried ArmA2 < 1337963218 365049 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The controls feel like crap < 1337963226 873210 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to try America's Army like originally intended < 1337963264 488671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1337963296 750706 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if I do, the brain control waves hidden in the game will force me to join the Army? < 1337963315 474667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337963554 465013 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131CDC.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337963558 846662 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :propaganda isn't based on brain control waves < 1337963561 536012 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome KingOfKarlsruhe < 1337963569 872446 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337963578 786245 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I promise not to join the Army, at any rate < 1337963591 209173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i mentioned don't play america's army < 1337963600 681651 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoorah < 1337963633 11800 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what will happen if I do < 1337963634 544178 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131CDC.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i'm pretty sure, that HackEgo is a Haskell Bot < 1337963643 215602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: everybody will die < 1337963643 615188 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe, that's lambdabot < 1337963689 511700 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh, I'd need to free up a lot of HD space < 1337963701 719646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1337963727 452323 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, dont play america's army < 1337963747 770115 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont like arma 2's controls because you are noob < 1337963782 509440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dont like having q and e mapped to lean right and left because it is the 90s and there is time for fps qwop < 1337963797 989414 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even play with that < 1337963818 639377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thats by default < 1337963818 873444 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like an essential function for training being mapped to a non-existent key < 1337963826 395997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog and there is time for < 1337963827 156613 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes that problem < 1337963854 110264 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can `rebind' keys, it is a complex process though < 1337963859 440427 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1337963861 475209 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mouse sensitivity needs to be tuned :/ < 1337963863 910253 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i shouldn't jibe, it actually is in arma 2 < 1337963866 577411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog there is time for < 1337963873 649060 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I binded it to left Alt < 1337963879 26150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :binded < 1337963882 976490 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the process losing the key for Look < 1337963884 113993 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-07.txt:03:14:55: -!- oerjan changed the topic of #esoteric to: It is the 90s and there is time for the requirements of supervision and control of transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, also an Esolang event @ Hel/Finland on 3.10.2011: https://wiki.helsinki.fi/display/lambda/esoteeriset+ohjelmointikielet | I think pointers are considerably more useful than lambda calculus | 12345678 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337963884 689983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several pages of controls in each of like 5 sections < 1337963891 10606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :binded < 1337963901 812525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :It is the 90s and there is time for the requirements of supervision and control of transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, also an Esolang event @ Hel/Finland on 3.10.2011: https://wiki.helsinki.fi/display/lambda/esoteeriset+ohjelmointikielet | I think pointers are considerably more useful than lambda calculus | 12345678 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337963915 492506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa: How did that event go, by the way? < 1337963925 602462 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only just realized that that's not the word < 1337963947 336304 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, wait, is right alt used for anything/ < 1337963950 608696 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a right alt key < 1337963954 285262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1337963973 860284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mash your face on the keyboard in arma 2 youll probably manage to start a nuclear war < 1337963977 945432 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337964090 292362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU EXPLODE YOU ACTUALLY *EXPLODE* < 1337964125 599058 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, is look actually useful in games? < 1337964148 247878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect it's useful in vehicle sections < 1337964177 168274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you have to do a vehicle section i pity you, its like piloting a pig with 2 engines on fire < 1337964196 571095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what was the pig trap's slogan again < 1337964199 996879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ex piggia et scientia or something < 1337964210 645606 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes because you are bad lattin < 1337964214 975089 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, does AA3 have vehicles? >.> < 1337964222 206986 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1337964249 188953 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to install Urban Terror < 1337964300 124506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y\O\U\ H\A\V\E\N\'\T\ E\X\P\L\O\D\E\D\ Y\E\T\ < 1337964318 492125 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, go get Worms working at some point < 1337964322 380338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/B/U/T/ Y/O/U/ W/I/L/L/ /S/O/O/N < 1337964331 183284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You ruined it. :( < 1337964373 680082 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1337964387 135185 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't realize there was something to ruin < 1337964395 421853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That line. It interrupted mine. < 1337964415 718613 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't realize there would be another line, and that there was supposed to be some sort of visual effect < 1337964418 872049 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Y\O\U\ H\A\V\E\N\'\T\ E\X\P\L\O\D\E\D\ Y\E\T\ < 1337964421 707197 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /B/U/T/ Y/O/U/ W/I/L/L/ /S/O/O/N < 1337964425 162393 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1337964430 142914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really a visual effect. < 1337964434 740494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just belong together. < 1337964519 824061 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :YBOUUT HYAOVUE NW'ITL LE XSPOLOON < 1337964530 282933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Light. < 1337964531 689324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play Light. < 1337964540 365249 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll play < 1337964541 724469 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’l playing 6.002x < 1337964543 696553 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1337964546 465592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What, Light? < 1337964554 959510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet light.bitprayer.com < 1337964600 395163 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold on < 1337964659 604317 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing < 1337964662 183783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a boring combo!!! but ok < 1337964664 822899 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's light about it? < 1337964667 870657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no id < 1337964669 311673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hunger < 1337964671 797954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no curses < 1337964674 26584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorter branches < 1337964675 113834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also: < 1337964676 299328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :squarelos < 1337964678 853592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :difficulty modes < 1337964686 374959 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so still full game < 1337964689 312312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you going to adjust your skills < 1337964693 406342 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought it would be some quick thing < 1337964699 217813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quick enough < 1337964701 749227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can win in a few hours < 1337964706 952116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to autotrain < 1337964719 283174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn off fighting and dodging < 1337964744 91683 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's purple? < 1337964753 883381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's scrolls that are probably bad < 1337964761 359901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mutagenic corpses but light doesn't have eating so < 1337964770 117045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1337964772 438370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :green is poisonous < 1337964779 267825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and prayer does nothing if you've already chopped a corpse... < 1337964794 121571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(additionally: you don't need to walk onto a corpse to sacrifice it in light) < 1337964810 705704 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did not know that about not needing to walk on it < 1337964832 725888 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do apples exist? < 1337964851 600055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fedhas i think < 1337964852 664590 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lag < 1337964859 288378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like the permafood still existing thing < 1337964861 247750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be removed < 1337964963 798188 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does teleport still have time before it actually takes effect? < 1337964988 287029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337964993 896418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: don't X>.>, just G> < 1337965059 995281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice int < 1337965064 919905 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1337965069 181503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your int stat < 1337965076 732937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be fun if you get stat-drained < 1337965086 815659 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it that low? < 1337965100 787603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because yuo're trol < 1337965166 289778 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Trog fine with skeletized corpses? < 1337965184 153647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not fine with rotting corpses < 1337965184 874427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1337965185 237639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337965223 329054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :henzell is more useful than xv < 1337965231 330610 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She can't cast in silence right? < 1337965235 680181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter < 1337965251 269168 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm? < 1337965252 35064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just chokepoint and bash her < 1337965254 716327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with berk possibly < 1337965295 404936 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Glow? < 1337965314 246237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad stuff that gives you mutations if it gets too high < 1337965319 366572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't spam spells/invocations too much < 1337965324 170199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its harmless < 1337965393 660765 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait what < 1337965411 762489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1337965416 287961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you add the zig to your shopping list < 1337965416 985029 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ziggurat < 1337965419 513805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337965420 791447 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't < 1337965421 55463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1337965422 908810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337965426 815822 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pressed o < 1337965427 282516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1337965429 215525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1337965433 651085 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think o automatically enters shops or something < 1337965441 507998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does but < 1337965444 175066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what's confusing < 1337965452 336878 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why it was offering me a ziggurat < 1337965459 17190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a zig portal < 1337965468 632061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consult ??ziggurat < 1337965509 361532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice saccing :P < 1337965552 858806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1337965556 463184 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got bored < 1337965571 2970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quickly? < 1337965574 645851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't even reach the pandoora < 1337965580 625310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you give games less time than you give languages < 1337965590 185566 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1337965601 336059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was not a joke < 1337965614 861395 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> I might be in that habit < 1337965621 55730 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do intend to go through SICP < 1337965655 34256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun with that < 1337965668 508622 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1337965705 996387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have doubts in your patience < 1337965740 190622 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> that's a fear < 1337965907 486520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you could at least splat the thing < 1337966091 790986 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the odds of me doing sicp are so small that the idea of me doing it first is not cause for concern < 1337966111 566771 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A star vs. a black hole, the length is 139 days. http://i.minus.com/ibovF0KvyEZmtl.gif < 1337966254 214258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip star < 1337966255 539280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"missed" < 1337966272 363384 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m rooting for the black hole. < 1337966301 415029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337966302 293980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed < 1337966548 848398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No - lgood < 1337966707 658537 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337967059 935913 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337967067 889017 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1337967093 124921 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337967317 681872 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337968844 832231 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A584.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337969245 230536 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337969923 156779 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337969959 965350 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know what < 1337969964 165803 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time it is? < 1337969976 176650 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a more serious note... < 1337970032 34171 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to write a Brainfuck interpreter. I've got my code here for seeing if the []'s are balanced http://ideone.com/S6Td2 , but it doesn't seem to work. I stepped through it on my own, with drawings and everything, and it worked fine. Any tips < 1337970117 286879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you just trying to check if they're balanced, or build a table of some kind while you're doing so? < 1337970128 437653 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes, I'm doing the latter as well. < 1337970150 41903 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A table that records brace pairs so I can easily jump around. < 1337970171 177948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1337970176 384479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what problems are you seeing exactly? < 1337970185 450374 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get a segfault when I hit a ]. < 1337970194 616472 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme show you my BF program. < 1337970199 394499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1337970215 987459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps brace_table is insufficiently large < 1337970224 206222 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ideone.com/jDpfo < 1337970236 450340 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insufficiently large? Huh? < 1337970247 111097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, how do you declare brace_table? < 1337970291 588635 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :std::unordered_map brace_table; < 1337970298 319047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337970300 172941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, then... < 1337970312 580154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems very odd indeed < 1337970314 184130 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use unordered_map because that's got constant lookup, while map doesn't. < 1337970328 599983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but non-constant insert :) < 1337970332 900165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1337970340 540409 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, but I < 1337970342 980463 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, but I < 1337970344 885985 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck < 1337970351 755787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried stepping through in gdb? I'd guess it's some other code you have that's causing the segfault, because I can't see how this would < 1337970353 359787 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, but I'm doing more lookups than insertions. < 1337970358 478585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about that thing, you know that thing. A gruddebe? No, that's not it. A grudbug. Oh, right, a debugger! < 1337970361 814193 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I think I might know what the issue is. < 1337970372 99916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: BEAT YOU TO IT. < 1337970373 31551 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to actually use brace_table. < 1337970377 822947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: heh < 1337970382 32120 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly me. < 1337970384 430869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, I was trying to invent more misspellings. < 1337970411 335792 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You said it first but fizzie said it better. < 1337970413 232378 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I don't quite know how to run a program through gdb. I.e. launch gdb first, then my program. < 1337970418 918657 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie++ < 1337970425 479153 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: You should learn to use gdb! < 1337970429 433999 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdb ./program < 1337970432 290376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: gdb ./program < 1337970432 510924 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> run < 1337970433 204416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :start < 1337970433 631043 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `run' < 1337970433 825451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cont < 1337970434 960464 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> hi program < 1337970435 186437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bt < 1337970436 16467 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `hi'Not in scope: `program' < 1337970475 179965 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I do use it through Code::Blocks, but I don't really know how to use it on the command line. I don't know how to have Code::Blocks pass arguments to my program. With no args, my interpreter just shows a help screen. < 1337970492 713949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdb ./program < 1337970493 697970 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whoa, dude, start < 1337970494 772555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :set args a b c d < 1337970503 658320 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dude, set args < 1337970506 340967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdb can also take args on the command-line i think but < 1337970515 258353 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, with gdb --args ./program a b c d < 1337970515 674969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdb --args ./program a b c d, or some-such. < 1337970520 752415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Late again! < 1337970523 407167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curses. < 1337970528 888988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ncurses < 1337970540 684791 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That simple? < 1337970552 967822 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but now I need to figure out how to use the important utilities. < 1337970567 53116 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This summer I need to spend my time before college starts learning things like make or gdb. < 1337970572 795743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :99% of gdb is useless :P < 1337970582 406757 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: gdb is ~2 million lines of code. < 1337970585 186307 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "important utilities" < 1337970586 463708 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!?!?!?! < 1337970589 541865 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's 20,000 useful lines? < 1337970600 82991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sounds like an overestimation to me. < 1337970612 726045 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lines of C. < 1337970629 105412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, maybe. < 1337970649 675027 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also gdb has some useful features that (presumably) take a lot of code to implement. < 1337970653 185610 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like stepping backwards. < 1337970669 819178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate debuggers. < 1337970671 781137 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: Did you know gdb could do that? < 1337970677 523864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use printf debugging whenever possible. < 1337970678 977685 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, I didn't, actually. < 1337970692 647303 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stepping backwards... < 1337970693 302300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nice thing about REPLs is that they're basically printf debugging automators. < 1337970702 117367 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1337970705 891919 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a REPL? < 1337970720 509916 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google what's a repl :'( < 1337970722 619339 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8731782/whats-a-repl-process-and-what-can-i-use-it-for < 1337970722 813780 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: node.js - What's a REPL process and what can I use it for? - Stack Overflow < 1337970726 110080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: Read-eval-print-loop. < 1337970734 327651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't click that Stack Overflow link. Nothing with node.js in the title can be good news. < 1337970739 358217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: Have you used Python or Ruby? < 1337970744 885103 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google why node.js is stupid < 1337970747 306055 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e1zzna-dNw < 1337970747 500199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Node.JS Is Stupid And If Y < 1337970748 809084 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've dabbled in Python, Ruby not really. < 1337970753 399158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: You know the Python console? < 1337970756 655096 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1337970759 410609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: That's a REPL. < 1337970766 396409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It reads an expression, evaluates it, prints the result, and loops back again. < 1337970783 582941 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it allow normal program flow if placed inside a program? < 1337970817 416916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you clarify? I'm not sure I understand. < 1337970845 706728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I forgot about that video. :( < 1337970876 898987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You should watch that video. It's terrible. < 1337970922 475083 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Like, could I insert a REPL into my Brainfuck interpreter and NOT have it affect it running, aside from extra junk being put on-screen? < 1337970946 984239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: Well, a REPL is a development tool, really, separate from running complete programs. < 1337970967 643295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could have a REPL where you can feed it a whole program and it'd work fine, sure. < 1337970983 806307 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So GDB is like a big-ass REPL? < 1337971004 798175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdb is like a REPL except it's attached to a running program that you step through. < 1337971010 336956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also you can't actually evaluate arbitrary expressions. < 1337971020 392237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not really like a REPL. But there are similarities :) < 1337971027 444636 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I haven't watched it. < 1337971042 346768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You should. < 1337971044 401355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll hurt. < 1337971225 897533 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.112 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337971241 933263 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337971769 936784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337972654 772007 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, new problem with my BF interpreter. < 1337972666 420033 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now know how to access the braces properly. Fine. < 1337972704 993965 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now when Brain Drain (as I call the interpreter) runs through the BF program, it doesn't output anything even though the BF program has "." instructions. < 1337972715 620938 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And IDEone tells me it works just fine. < 1337972775 25985 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I catch all the exceptions that both std::string and std::unordered_map throw, and they mostly consist of vector::_M_range_check, with the occasional _Map_base::at < 1337972792 666020 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(According to std::out_of_range.what()) < 1337972830 472530 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I use unordered_map.at() rather than unordered_map[] so I don't create new elements. < 1337972866 553705 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any tips? < 1337972911 32306 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: I recommend taking elliott's advice. < 1337972921 443991 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take your printfshaker and sprinkle some printfs throughout the program. < 1337972926 961286 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am. < 1337972943 731178 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big is the interpreter? < 1337972944 177888 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly in my instructions, which come as void function objects. < 1337972988 768144 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Lemme put it on IDEone. See, I plan on adding several Brainfuck dialects, and each one will come as a class. < 1337973066 213034 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I put cout's in my BF instructions, I get nothing. I DO know that the program is looping with the braces, though. < 1337973076 354621 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ideone.com/z9Yji < 1337973085 213845 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my Brainfuck.cpp. Brainfuck.h coming < 1337973136 450134 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think your regex is wrong < 1337973161 396002 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shouldn't compile < 1337973187 14033 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: My regex is somewhat correct (it compiles, but doesn't match anything), but that's not my concern right now. < 1337973196 122588 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ideone.com/UhC55 < 1337973217 223615 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: ok, well, it doesn't match because the early ] kills it < 1337973222 856496 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :your character class ends partway through < 1337973231 164443 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I don't know how to match individual []'s, though. < 1337973242 492858 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: [ can be matched safely inside a class < 1337973252 858463 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ] can be matched safely outside of one < 1337973255 118489 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also watch out for - < 1337973258 51901 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to be first or las < 1337973264 863308 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*or last, or else it will be a character range < 1337973294 940192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337973330 342588 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Still doesn't match my program. < 1337973330 772054 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ] can also be safely matched first < 1337973343 201576 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :[]fo] matches ']', 'f', or 'o' < 1337973370 25177 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You ARE referring to POSIX regex, right? < 1337973383 956071 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is mine, with your changes; [^><+.,[\]@$!}{~^&|-] < 1337973393 73179 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is my BF program; < 1337973393 545375 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : f++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++The Rain in Spain is Falling on the Plane..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. < 1337973405 954134 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have installed working c compiler to my bot at #esoteric-en. first one to destroy my chroot gets ops < 1337973413 970683 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just escape a ] < 1337973425 627144 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :backslashes are meaningless inside classes < 1337973449 774540 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to do [^][><+.,@$!{}~^&|-] < 1337973508 108507 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It works! Thanks! Now to actually get the program itself working. < 1337973520 717316 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure to flush cout < 1337973543 654126 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When? And what does flushing do? < 1337973555 908597 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cout is buffered output < 1337973564 695822 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't instantly print everything you stream to it < 1337973569 669856 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to flush it to make it actually happen < 1337973579 292993 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :endl flushes automatically < 1337973672 597142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337973711 562655 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OK, I cout.flush() whenever I hit a "." instruction, but I still see nothing. < 1337974009 134646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always flush regularly. or was that floss regularly. < 1337974061 265519 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't quite understand what a buffer is or what flushing is. < 1337974198 335816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik: communicating between processes is somewhat expensive, therefore file/stream io tends to try not to send just one character at a time, but instead save it in a buffer to be sent all at once. this can be set to happen either when the buffer is full, when a newline is output, or on each character (when you really need it). < 1337974208 101434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*afaiu < 1337974237 525856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's syscalls that are expensive, really < 1337974292 641128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also perhaps cache synchronization, no? < 1337974334 554686 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that's the case, why does std::cout << "France"; work < 1337974354 554378 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, even when processes communicate through shared memory and use lockless data structures, there is no free lunch < 1337974369 860252 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: stdout is typically line-buffered if it's a terminal < 1337974409 952808 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: In that case, why should I flush often if we're using a terminal? Hell, what else could stdout go to? < 1337974425 644870 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: you could redirect stdout to a file, or pipe it to another process < 1337974440 892065 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-149-94.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337974443 701374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: because it won't flush until you write a newline < 1337974446 149384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the output won't come < 1337974449 806878 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: So I could redirect stdout to LibreOffice if I wanted to? < 1337974452 8311 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-254-112.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337974457 236320 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some other text editor? < 1337974459 848469 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on UNIX anyway, stdout is just file descriptor 1, and that could be opened to any kind of file < 1337974462 415722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if libreoffice supported that, sure < 1337974469 604540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix is all about connecting stdout and stdin to places < 1337974469 798739 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: sure, but those programs typically don't accept input on standard input < 1337974473 711870 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you read about unix pipes < 1337974508 519089 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if not standard input, then what? < 1337974523 922354 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :libreoffice is a gui program with gui dialogs for opening files and such < 1337974530 263855 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's where it gets its input < 1337974534 213651 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not by reading std::cin < 1337974559 126438 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the text. It just uses events, then? < 1337974564 403239 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so confused < 1337974578 811877 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind that, then. < 1337974579 340587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's syscalls that are expensive, really <-- right, shared memory and non-contended futexes are both pretty cheap, as neither gets the kernel involved < 1337974587 769896 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think rather than flushing repeatedly, you can just put std::cout into an unbuffered mode < 1337974591 439818 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't remember how < 1337974598 499138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAVE I MENTIONED < 1337974599 950605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW < 1337974602 834537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SYSCALLS < 1337974603 497069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARE FREE < 1337974604 422600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN @ < 1337974613 884400 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Huh? < 1337974615 377754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ALSO BEER < 1337974619 863126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: @ is... @ < 1337974623 438678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... it's a thing < 1337974628 141060 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free in @? I don't get it. < 1337974631 403243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like feather, but different < 1337974635 429241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Feather < 1337974639 559922 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, OK. < 1337974643 629444 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: as to your original question, try something like: std::cout << "foo"; sleep(2); std::cout << " bar\n"; < 1337974654 736502 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won't see foo 2 seconds before bar < 1337974657 333134 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of line buffering < 1337974659 48794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: @ is elliott's vaporware os design < 1337974667 882525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not vapourware! < 1337974669 55676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just uh < 1337974670 418154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1337974671 976445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ware < 1337974672 336904 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: arr more part where yarr < 1337974673 955140 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The suckiest part of World of Padman is the players < 1337974682 319951 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't seem to know how to play capture the flag < 1337974744 721900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just solidly challenged, right? < 1337974752 595343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:( < 1337974791 743801 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :naive use of shared memory is pretty cheap for 2-4 threads but if you're trying to scale up to a 48 core machine, you hit a wall pretty quickly < 1337974809 755527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mezzacotta.net/owls/ is very meta today < 1337974841 858655 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: OK. Now, what I don't get is how this helps me understand why my BF interpreter gives me no output. Especially since I just switched to putchar. < 1337974843 400055 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you need to think about cache lines bouncing between cores, efficient use of memory barriers, NUMA < 1337974864 210539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: it doesn't :P < 1337974866 71090 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: if it's a buffering problem you should get all the output when the program quits < 1337974867 117090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :putchar buffers too though < 1337974887 715245 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Except that there might be a need for input beforehand. BF allows input. < 1337974909 612524 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you can also do [><+.,@$!{}~^&|-^] no? < 1337974962 966935 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There must be a problem with how I'm calling my function objects. < 1337974976 331164 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Placing std::cout << "France" << std::endl in them does nothing. < 1337974994 230344 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your code isn't getting called at all < 1337975013 800078 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, cerr is useful for debugging as it's unbuffered < 1337975067 281452 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Noted. < 1337975125 491166 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use debugger breakpoints to see if your code is getting called < 1337975133 279142 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337975147 39825 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337975161 802038 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I allowed to call myself a published software author now? < 1337975218 145395 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :FluffZuu < 1337975229 222655 :FluffZuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :FluffBall < 1337975306 346525 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: This is my Brainfuck.cpp. At the bottom, I call my code with run(), which calls nextInstruction() on each character. http://ideone.com/8EjGf < 1337975429 876253 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any tips? < 1337975513 712704 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337975515 872935 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use debugger breakpoints to see if your code is getting called < 1337975547 343649 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a break. < 1337975552 753249 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'll take one. < 1337975554 214621 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@static-64-61-115-26.isp.broadviewnet.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1337975559 798340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1337975623 243760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably not related, but the run() looks very dubious. It will call nextInstruction() as many times as there are characters in the program, but (if there are loops) that's probably not the right amount of steps to execute. < 1337975689 375612 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-91.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337975694 605563 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-149-94.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337976726 917357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go the store, and buy some more. You will need to open the purple door. -- Super ASCII MZX Town < 1337976838 213881 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti_ < 1337976866 612283 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti < 1337977021 81508 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti_ < 1337977030 364855 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti < 1337977127 465480 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti_ < 1337977133 130959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make up QR-GAME which consists of a QR code of a binary code of a computer game for some virtual machine or emulator < 1337977139 681737 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti < 1337977158 5279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Why do you keep changing your name? < 1337977192 167890 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I test !msg and !readmsg commands in my ircbot < 1337977203 725819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1337977220 965914 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh elliott left < 1337977309 562930 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti_ < 1337977318 843758 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti < 1337977710 974642 :Achtquack!~Alex@85-127-28-121.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1337977780 748012 :Achtquack!~Alex@85-127-28-121.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at QUIT :Quit: Verlassend < 1337977788 900436 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-175.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337977818 430695 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-91.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337977926 491587 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.112 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337977927 385628 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337978013 101187 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337978038 2252 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337978671 664863 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-175.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337978958 733557 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti__ < 1337978974 507570 :nortti__!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti_ < 1337979034 76364 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti < 1337979317 797674 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Church of Bitcoin? < 1337979626 114245 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-175.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337979731 81479 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward Kmett said that discardable functors are the same as representable functors, and representable functors are isomorphic to ((->) x) for some x. I can prove that all discardable monads are idempotent applicatives, but since they are representable and therefore isomorphic to ((->) x) they are all monads and therefore all idempotent as well. < 1337979849 798736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, there are idempotent applicatives which are not discardable/representable, such as: ZipList, ((,) x) for some idempotent monoid x, Maybe, (Either x), (Const x) for some idempotent monoid x < 1337979850 568813 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131CDC.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1337979877 268434 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does idempotent mean? < 1337979917 648096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idempotent monoid means mappend x x = x and idempotent applicative means x *> x = x < 1337979938 401261 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idempotent in general means "if you apply it twice, it's the same as applying it once" < 1337979955 341780 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And discardable and representable in this context? < 1337980019 737196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Discardable functor means x <$ y = x <$ z and representable means isomorphic to ((->) x) for some x < 1337980056 442929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Identity is isomorphic to ((->) ()) and Finalize is isomorphic to ((->) Zero) < 1337980219 124762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is (\f x y -> (f x -> f y)) a Arrow if and only if f is idempotent applicative? I don't know but I guessed < 1337980335 979849 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :x *> x = x >> x = join (x <$ x) = join (x <$ return y) = join (return x) = (join . return) x = id x = x < 1337980337 871682 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is Proxy an idempotent applicative? < 1337980366 205565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think Proxy is equivalent to Finalize, so it is < 1337980384 132689 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1337980385 371379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note in proof given: This assumes it is discardable, so (x <$ x) = (x <$ y) for any y) < 1337981964 584255 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337982036 399306 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1337982042 389684 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1337982059 961964 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.112 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337982270 660626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337982291 205361 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337982342 279034 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-233-246.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1337982496 431121 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-192.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337982515 896979 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337982598 371226 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337982643 615858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two campaign rules I like (which are default in Icosahedral RPG, but I like to use them in Dungeons&Dragons as well): * Any dead creature is considered to age twice as fast while dead for the purpose of resurrection increasing your age more. * Alignment entry for kinds of creatures does not describe what is most likely (with a few exceptions) but instead describes what people (especially if superstitious) tend to believe. < 1337982656 186850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exceptions = angels, devils, demons, normal animals/vermins, unintelligent undead, and uniques. < 1337982936 892307 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1337983021 164616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome oonbotti < 1337983022 344456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337983025 669332 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oonbotti: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337983057 548706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a hunch that might mean "o is a bot" < 1337983103 43408 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oonbotti=olen botti=I am bot < 1337983158 34552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Other than the given exceptions, any random individual of some kind can be just as likely to be of any alignment; confirmation bias may cause people to persist in their fallacious beliefs.) < 1337983183 999895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think these two campaign rules make the game more interesting < 1337983204 973196 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rawirc PRIVMSG #esoteric Maybe I should make command for this < 1337983205 167890 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1337983205 796472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oon is slang for olen? < 1337983220 199595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: You forgot the colon < 1337983227 877541 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rawirc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should make command for this < 1337983228 175165 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should make command for this < 1337983246 260029 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1337983283 816212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, slang ain't gonna make it 'round here < 1337983313 109938 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cc hello.c < 1337983320 908283 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!exec hello < 1337983342 872515 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello world\n < 1337983369 866774 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cat hello.c < 1337983370 152511 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include \nint main() {char a[12]; a[0]='H'; a[1]='e'; a[2]='l'; a[3]='l'; a[4]='o'; a[5]=' '; a[6]='w'; a[7]='o'; a[8]='r'; a[9]='l'; a[10]='d'; a[11]=0; puts(a); } < 1337983371 461799 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello.c < 1337983373 917802 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cat hello < 1337983374 112195 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[>+>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<+>-]>>>>+[ < 1337983374 508374 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1337983390 266668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense a conflict < 1337983397 166757 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1337983416 958758 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cat foobar < 1337983417 495020 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foobar < 1337983424 39025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suggests \ < 1337983440 970999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\help < 1337983458 533714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest you could just send message directly to oonbotti < 1337983477 808050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could have "oonbotti: " prefix for commands written to the channel < 1337983508 731122 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PART :#esoteric < 1337983539 316024 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. I 'lljust keep it on #esoteric-en < 1337983551 865624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1337983594 449704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the default is finnish, then #esoteric-en means _not_ esoteric, right? < 1337983609 971041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, #esoteric-en means /not finnish/ < 1337983615 576137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all languages but finnish are acceptable there, though < 1337983617 237914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just English < 1337983658 424818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that was a lousy attempt at a pun with finnish. < 1337983737 524503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi:en = en:i don't, or something like that < 1337983766 641040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, I see < 1337983777 981007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when #esoteric-en was in the topic, though, the rule was that it was for all languages but Finnish < 1337983787 897817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually enforced in #esoteric-en :) < 1337983794 594649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure how many people actually joined it) < 1337983808 248016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders why it's fi rather than su < 1337983809 881237 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ii never saw anyone other there than Sgeo < 1337983863 859723 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was there almost all the time < 1337983903 71227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the rules of Icosahedral RPG? < 1337983943 722355 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1337983990 310770 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this topic some kind of Markov nightmare of all the topics from the past year? < 1337984052 59750 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way !cc on oonbotti was actually c2bf < 1337984134 219838 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the ISC licensed version with my libc and cpp added on wrapper script < 1337984246 981657 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that available somewhere yet? < 1337984316 936312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, also < 1337984321 66677 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no yet. I still don't really understand how git works < 1337984333 276355 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-13.txt:23:10:28: -!- oerjan changed the topic of #esoteric to: Freudian armchair psycho-babble | It is the 90s and there is time for the requirements of supervision and control of transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, also an Esolang event @ Hel/Finland on 3.10.2011: https://wiki.helsinki.fi/display/lambda/esoteeriset+ohjelmointikielet | god bless haskell america | 12345678!& | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337984372 808120 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that was my point ... < 1337984377 273124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i think it may be a straight rerun of one from earlier < 1337984385 156742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :around that time < 1337984404 634409 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it was "fun" to edit copyright notices in all of the files < 1337984554 810896 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: YOU'RE WELCOME < 1337984583 147194 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY CAPITAL LETTERS? < 1337984603 577955 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE I DECREE IT. < 1337984722 367836 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you decree it? < 1337985387 621567 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337985501 677741 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337987171 659068 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337987185 493237 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337987217 267843 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337987620 211179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make the Free Geeks GameBoy game? < 1337988426 605110 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337989466 29370 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A584.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337990426 731160 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337990584 402331 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337992001 730098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337992059 808173 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337992072 939903 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337992317 401386 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337992814 720605 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337993216 745549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337993982 5067 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337993982 203693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337995372 279536 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337995389 959978 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337997688 137712 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337999360 378912 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1338000968 588004 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338002258 539834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338002284 717610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pointers may be more useful than lambda calculus for some things; for other things, lambda calculus may be more useful. Isn't it? < 1338002351 100 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no pointers are Awesome™ and lambda calculus gives you bad breath < 1338002497 620967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever seen the Kaiji anime/manga? < 1338002788 648828 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1338003226 755718 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many actual programs use lambda calculus? < 1338003350 281790 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1338003383 184019 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338003729 703848 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338004540 6293 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338004552 715274 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338004572 493729 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net NICK :monqy < 1338004905 622020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free (CoYoneda f) is always a monad regardless of f, and f can be a GADT of actions, and you can make the monad of the actions to perform, which can also allow the actions to be manipulated. The f could also be a class wrapper: data X :: * -> * where { X :: XC x y => x -> X y; }; class Typeable x => XC x y | x -> y where { ... }; < 1338005872 854738 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your preferred natural language doesn't use the Latin alphabet, what keyboard layout do you use when coding? US QWERTY? < 1338005985 103774 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338006911 24031 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338006991 710063 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-151-77.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338007169 995441 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-175.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338011516 875532 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338012105 611639 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hay! < 1338012419 468539 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338012497 764359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK < 1338012633 317099 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338012656 523672 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338012667 263514 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1338013941 24372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you watch Kaiji? < 1338013950 118918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you watch Kaiji or Akagi? < 1338014014 356734 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1338014015 629169 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you? < 1338014170 251736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I watch Kaiji and I read the Akagi manga < 1338014186 897085 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you watch Akagi and read the Kaiji manga? < 1338014187 444220 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 9 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338014220 114892 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky monqy < 1338014222 35046 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lonqy < 1338014300 552549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaiji and Akagi are both very excellent manga written by Fukumoto, although his drawing is bad (he admits this). < 1338014314 208005 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you read it in Japanese or in Canadian? < 1338014365 191192 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-151-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame there's not a zzo translation. < 1338014999 126431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are in Japanese. < 1338015029 276530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I watch the Kaiji anime with English subtitles < 1338015176 748887 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1338016385 91191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though Set cannot be made instance of Monad, a type can be made for the Kleisli category of Set and make the Category instance for that. < 1338016554 843655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the variant campaign rules for Dungeons&Dragons game and Icosahedral RPG, that I have made? < 1338020493 854797 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1338020501 877126 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338021119 439019 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338021131 134604 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338021568 632692 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338023243 604876 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338024076 235605 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A584.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338024223 456457 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1338025815 496512 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338025835 646338 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. got forth interpeter in my ircbot < 1338025854 981142 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go forth and interpret! < 1338026085 888302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: (x-a)(x-b)(x-c)...=? < 1338026514 676684 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338026981 392692 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1338026981 586666 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1338026994 882501 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1338026995 215740 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1338027001 956057 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help < 1338027972 503718 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338027977 926926 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help < 1338027978 121044 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo, #welcome, #cat, #ls, #rm, #writefile, #cc, #exec, #msg, #readmsg, #forth, #loadforth < 1338028009 927768 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth words < 1338028010 161167 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET RESET + DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338028015 476949 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth forget forget < 1338028015 671226 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:word 'FORGET' cannot be forgotten < 1338028020 524539 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth forget + < 1338028022 831707 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth words < 1338028023 25793 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET RESET DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338028027 366878 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth reset < 1338028032 778422 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth words < 1338028032 972869 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET RESET DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338028040 929966 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth RESET < 1338028061 742913 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#quit < 1338028061 936980 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1338028399 401399 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%help < 1338028893 204265 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338028905 574444 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :% words < 1338028905 768846 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET + DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338029015 218424 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338029140 99724 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338029195 342613 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi TOPIC #esoteric :It is the 90s and there is time for the requirements of supervision and control of transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, also an Esolang event @ Hell/Finland on 3.10.2011: https://wiki.helsinki.fi/display/lambda/esoteeriset+ohjelmointikielet | I think pointers are considerably more useful than lambda calculus | 12345678 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1338030908 165615 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A584.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338031219 957249 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-192.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338031481 884842 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#cat test.forth < 1338031482 257418 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: sq dup * ; 6 sq . < 1338031515 536445 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#loadforth test.forth < 1338031515 999578 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :36 < 1338031525 294349 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#rm test.forth < 1338035146 431596 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338038258 161865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1338038327 513741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rawirc QUIT :x < 1338038328 173864 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338038349 419019 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: new command char is # < 1338038354 904446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#rawirc QUIT :x < 1338038357 402189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1338038362 605330 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell ls < 1338038363 131172 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfi.py \ botcmd.py \ botcmd.pyc \ ircbot.py \ msgs.txt \ replacecmd.sh \ sforth.py \ sforth.pyc \ tmpdata \ userdata \ < 1338038375 331245 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell cat /etc/passwd < 1338038385 66029 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell rm replacecmd.sh < 1338038392 794791 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell ls < 1338038392 989151 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfi.py \ botcmd.py \ botcmd.pyc \ ircbot.py \ msgs.txt \ sforth.py \ sforth.pyc \ tmpdata \ userdata \ < 1338038393 853818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:10:09: Ii never saw anyone other there than Sgeo < 1338038398 203964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i joined it first. < 1338038400 274007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my channel. < 1338038410 807931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell for i in a b c; echo $i; done < 1338038416 924093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your shell sucks < 1338038417 285012 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I declared it, that makes it MY channel ;) < 1338038431 252243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was considering registering it < 1338038444 383418 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: when did you join it? < 1338038450 138583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:33:46: how many actual programs use lambda calculus? < 1338038450 332789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:35:50: 3 < 1338038452 282617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 2 now < 1338038456 544486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: right after it was added to the topic < 1338038504 871635 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I joined it 17th May 16:57:15 and there was no one there. < 1338038531 756118 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. yes there was. I didn't notice you < 1338038629 660991 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a long time Sgeo was there but after some time I was left as the only one there < 1338038878 875121 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my shell doesn't suck. It is undocumented feauture of my bot and it requires that you are in oonbotti's .botops file < 1338038891 656522 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help < 1338038891 851043 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo, #welcome, #cat, #ls, #rm, #writefile, #cc, #exec, #msg, #readmsg, #forth, #loadforth < 1338038922 988897 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also, #forth has alias % < 1338038935 841088 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#forth 4 2 < 1338038944 897150 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :% swap 10 * + . < 1338038945 91543 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1338038948 827894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! < 1338038952 258899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blahbot reserves % < 1338038964 980636 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :blahbot? < 1338038973 676691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338038975 128681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Jumping_to_-1_is_exciting < 1338038979 88236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest in peace < 1338038997 692773 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338039013 403743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, someone called Bfucker has created two brainfuck derivatives in two days < 1338039015 204419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338039069 171934 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it seems blahbot also reserves ! < 1338039107 321033 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is % just a prefix and not jumping to -1 is exciting command < 1338039204 937053 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#quit < 1338039205 169555 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: oonbotti < 1338039238 169945 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338039245 689598 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 42 . < 1338039245 883674 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1338039441 506904 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also only words >R R@ R> - * / MOD : ; are written in python. everything else is written in forth < 1338039444 501037 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ words < 1338039444 694721 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET + DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338039459 668345 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and forget is also written in python < 1338039472 123128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: % was the prefix it used < 1338039477 828993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had other commands too :P < 1338039484 996281 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1338039485 190508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$42 is how much I paid for it < 1338039487 823357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much? < 1338039488 728155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$42 . < 1338039508 11440 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott remember to put space between $ and 42 < 1338039510 529121 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 42 . < 1338039510 723161 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1338039513 347410 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 42 . < 1338039513 541511 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1338039516 120021 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$42 . < 1338039535 67677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was deliberately omitting it so I had the chance to possibly complain about your new prefix :P < 1338039619 966363 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also thought using * as prefix and make bot complain if command was not found but then i rememberd what it is used for < 1338039624 700101 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*remembered < 1338039634 342225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it used for < 1338039646 600472 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixing you typos < 1338039741 227394 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also if it wouldn't need space between $ and words to execute there would be even more annoyance < 1338039744 627383 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :# 42. < 1338039748 488732 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 42. < 1338039748 683372 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Word not found < 1338039825 868344 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ forget + < 1338039833 544319 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ forget drop < 1338039838 832838 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ forget dup < 1338039840 219848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: oh, right < 1338039842 618095 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ forget swap < 1338039847 908241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :botte will theoretically use . as a prefix < 1338039848 407271 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ forget nip < 1338039849 136524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.foo < 1338039854 807549 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ words < 1338039855 1545 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338039875 460699 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : dup >r r@ r> ; < 1338039887 112875 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : drop dup - - ; < 1338039900 434609 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : + >r 0 r> - - ; < 1338039925 719070 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : swap over >r >r drop r> r> ; < 1338039937 757690 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : nip swap drop ; < 1338039991 28768 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is how these words are implemented in my forth interpreter < 1338040013 901294 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338040070 87070 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remember correctly I could also implement OVER in forth but I don't really see how if I don't have swap < 1338040144 329211 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338040278 964422 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ resetenv < 1338040283 649632 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ words < 1338040283 843682 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; WORDS FORGET + DROP SWAP DUP NIP OVER >R * - / . R@ R> MOD < 1338040358 457268 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 1 0 / . < 1338040370 402102 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 13 5 + . < 1338040370 596340 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 < 1338040384 929776 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ . . < 1338040385 123861 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Stack underflow < 1338040388 320133 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ . < 1338040388 514474 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Stack underflow < 1338040622 278314 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338042134 616821 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338042205 152689 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338042289 171204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338042571 7579 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338042684 604306 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338042756 640571 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-192.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338043149 881738 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1338044304 905725 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338044307 932041 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1338044308 126381 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338044868 468193 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338044923 793388 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DOES OTOOL OUTPUT AT&T ASSEMBLER SYNTAX ;C < 1338044960 810762 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because all the associated tools INPUT AT&T assembler syntax? < 1338044976 983777 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even stupid gdb has an option for that < 1338045005 824731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otool does too, I think. < 1338045028 750092 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ apple's gdb is too old or too stupid to understand disas \m and \r options that i need < 1338045081 136318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution starts with l and ends with inux < 1338045091 616425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or starts with bsd and ends with the null string < 1338045123 815657 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it starts with m and ends with inix? < 1338045137 65906 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Actually it ends with "BSD" and starts with a variety of other words. < 1338045155 777156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was considering saying that < 1338045158 942891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: no < 1338045166 459659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing starts with m and ends with inix other than suffering < 1338045169 524821 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could just build binutils on OS X < 1338045176 411800 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like it < 1338045181 268761 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm too lazy < 1338045191 902528 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: And then enjoy it not being able to meaningfully handle any of the native binaries? < 1338045200 82581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: ok < 1338045224 636561 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather write a ruby script to crunch otool's output < 1338045240 381678 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 1.5 runs on my old machines, 2 is fast and requires minimal amount of memory and 3 is pretty stable < 1338045243 833047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suffering also starts with r and ends with uby < 1338045251 208882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: thanks for this information < 1338045258 771527 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ruby on minix! < 1338045261 912754 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why? < 1338045279 81830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i don't know why suffering exists < 1338045298 99840 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why it starts with r and ends with uby? < 1338045323 310216 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also why do you think that suffering starts with m and ends with minix < 1338045327 459417 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*inix < 1338045328 655736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: well you're about to find that out for yourself < 1338045377 447894 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i code ruby for at least 3 years and still didn't notice anything < 1338045401 737420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there may be a bigger problem < 1338045425 724800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes people start with s and end with uffering < 1338045427 844456 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it's quite slow < 1338046107 744229 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338046108 177949 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1338046108 372834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338046435 669529 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sergei von Uffering? < 1338046446 424654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338046448 75898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1338046451 530005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your cloak is broken < 1338046484 864221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1338047196 259886 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1338047205 60744 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ karma \ lib \ maketext \ monqy \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom < 1338047220 15262 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls monqy/ < 1338047222 916578 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access monqy/: Not a directory < 1338047229 358607 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat monqy < 1338047231 819756 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338047241 123948 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file maketext < 1338047244 33438 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :maketext: directory < 1338047252 894328 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls maketext/ < 1338047255 570802 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1338047262 112146 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1338047280 678201 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -F maketext/ < 1338047283 259007 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1338047285 894353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -F maketext < 1338047288 684937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat maketext/0 < 1338047288 879239 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1338047291 392350 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338047294 209288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r maketext < 1338047297 420906 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338047300 830774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm monqy < 1338047304 178804 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338047317 272677 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1338047319 805517 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: empty < 1338047348 568055 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls karma/ < 1338047351 147531 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access karma/: Not a directory < 1338047357 790512 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat karma < 1338047360 569987 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie now has 1 karma. < 1338047403 899322 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat karma | pastelogs < 1338047414 841214 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat karma | paste < 1338047417 343487 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10030 < 1338047418 544017 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28886 < 1338047475 116622 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :iteresting < 1338047483 923197 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file paste < 1338047486 437381 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste: directory < 1338047621 923141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma < 1338047626 83535 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :has 0 karma. < 1338047637 246427 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma < 1338047642 95439 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :has 0 karma. < 1338047643 371480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the karma thing is broken because gregor is terible < 1338047656 289618 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma < 1338047656 521200 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 1 < 1338047671 897511 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^karma < 1338047675 693016 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!karma < 1338047678 792936 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%karma < 1338047688 505985 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#karma < 1338048153 330375 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1338048322 355167 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338048768 114628 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma < 1338048773 251720 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :has 0 karma. < 1338048779 284231 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma nortti < 1338048783 904994 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti has 0 karma. < 1338048796 660782 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma Taneb < 1338048802 39896 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb has 0 karma. < 1338048810 5233 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma Taneb < 1338048810 505528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 0 < 1338048814 36937 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1338048835 233540 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma fizzie < 1338048839 755482 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has 0 karma. < 1338048847 764001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb++ < 1338048854 663174 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma < 1338048855 398746 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 2 < 1338048857 20605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait i think I fixed `karma < 1338048861 457780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`++ Taneb < 1338048863 830638 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ++: not found < 1338048867 562721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma+ Taneb < 1338048871 53380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget how it works < 1338048872 515461 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb now has 1 karma. < 1338048874 198741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma Taneb < 1338048877 989550 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ HackEgo < 1338048878 183654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's karma raised to 1. < 1338048879 449281 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb has 1 karma. < 1338048884 46110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/karma < 1338048886 695296 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.11427 < 1338048893 270004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste lib/karma < 1338048896 373803 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12049 < 1338048902 311865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1338048905 30704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's broken < 1338048910 100992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it works < 1338048910 719011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1338049263 856551 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338049276 517839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Guest28135 < 1338049279 590304 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest28135: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338049311 484457 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1338049339 550082 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are you and what has taken you here? < 1338049360 618878 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me? < 1338049375 860127 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoy < 1338049378 31128 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you < 1338049409 729303 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just looking for new friends < 1338049454 603757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'ere lots of friends here < 1338049457 431969 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know anything about esoteric programming languages? < 1338049457 626262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :practically a friend party < 1338049463 364175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: what're those < 1338049471 556448 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: asl plz? < 1338049471 750419 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1338049494 454294 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: asl pls? < 1338049516 200635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/m/texas < 1338049524 244212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(texas is a country in the south pacific) < 1338049529 241223 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest28135: 14/m/Finland < 1338049530 312834 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3? < 1338049535 511609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes 3 < 1338049538 883317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;m a dog < 1338049543 817666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like 47 in human years or something < 1338049545 788509 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, texas is austria < 1338049562 38453 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew < 1338049575 749410 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wew < 1338049578 55126 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: by the way are the kangaroos moved there yet < 1338049635 52844 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20/m/kuta < 1338049636 381809 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: not sure, ask Gregor < 1338049961 738427 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-201-37.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338050051 940538 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-198-86.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338050407 958201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338050437 277617 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338050443 498502 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338050444 189047 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1338050475 270882 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asl pls? < 1338050491 993507 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1338050538 315768 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338050755 195261 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: asl? < 1338050764 162964 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338050819 205959 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, know any good Forth tutorials? < 1338050827 680967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1338050848 618920 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please recommend one perhaps? < 1338050866 405700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont remenmber the ones i know < 1338050872 445457 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1338051006 972324 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you know about them if you don't remember them? < 1338051042 715472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i know how but i don't remember how < 1338051448 469643 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn forth some time < 1338051879 34628 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338052923 337749 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: statring forth < 1338052983 177101 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can use oonbotti's interactive forth interpreter < 1338052993 172591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't thinking forth better < 1338053006 915706 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric : haha < 1338053023 583155 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338053031 792188 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck otool -> http://pastie.org/3972547 < 1338053048 241735 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEllo < 1338053064 708669 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna start a Dwarf Fortress over an aquifer < 1338053066 596128 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: what is funny? < 1338053084 769060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you termcasting it < 1338053089 752848 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT YET < 1338053094 771307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338053096 16529 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i've added machine code to the output < 1338053097 797071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im watching monqy play twice at once < 1338053116 746055 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some colors (visible only in terminal) < 1338053118 704303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice tele traps < 1338053119 761379 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: to what output? < 1338053122 560116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this vaults loot < 1338053137 436486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice giant newt dying < 1338053147 338002 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now just a small function left to translate at&t into intel syntax < 1338053159 762570 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: to the otool's output of course < 1338053200 316965 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: when do you start termcasting? < 1338053208 348041 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHORTLY < 1338053213 578687 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep refreshing < 1338053227 1504 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this with starting over an aquifier? < 1338053237 335811 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never done that because i was afraid < 1338053245 402216 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STARTED < 1338053289 67224 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338053310 105158 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: why is there no bindump on your platform? < 1338053334 59801 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think I mean objdump < 1338053368 586768 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever... you know, that tool that already does all that stuff you want < 1338053399 627152 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: OS X has shitty thing called otool instead < 1338053404 361416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :objdump does sound like the right tool for the job < 1338053414 834438 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and binutils are not very good with handling native binaries < 1338053441 656480 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i know about objdump guys... i'd used it if i could < 1338053543 238534 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, you already know about it? then why aren't you using it! < 1338053551 887492 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE OS X! < 1338053614 216870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :feels like the correct solution to this problem is finishing the binutils port for mac < 1338053635 664642 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortress name, anyone? < 1338053668 148143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something stupid < 1338053685 625285 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seizurebears? < 1338053690 930590 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: call it "TANEBS FORTRESS" < 1338053703 2027 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I'm afraid I can't do that < 1338053710 406132 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seizurebees! < 1338053712 141264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: poopborn < 1338053714 773672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338053716 101746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seizurebees < 1338053720 141257 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1338053722 557776 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. < 1338053723 241260 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheesurebees < 1338053723 506232 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Group name? < 1338053727 943081 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngved < 1338053728 137528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beeseizures < 1338053730 433984 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngved? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1338053734 125631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338053734 320250 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :beeizures < 1338053735 606759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338053736 844353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1338053739 964499 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:s.6p[.o@5|36aylMߋUϧ9Wg{T;%m.(9R)d9o=KXAКzbwdhFeo~...&rGhϡDJl穬 ).g\.5^s.(..j.v6I!bt.YX{?....mT.)X*K../@..ȞF@s.....v!...N2..E.F..w~CF<..zl*.̠ڡ^!}.>.Cț.nw+[. \ 浒#(.l.A..5;Mz..H[3Z'GyT?.ξ].+1.f3?Ѫ.|)ua!2s)I < 1338053750 509626 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is not null terminated < 1338053756 801208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1338053759 688514 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\.Vu`|pF^&L\ǂ>.;.J./թfZDnċ.="5WsTWW(P34%|_ \ vң׶.iQ\1.vl&.QS%퍽)#rPb.s.S\8n.UH뤈.皦 o<`7{h3<<^֍c-N..|Rӝ?1v9h9s./yA!]A8v$=>.Zu.؝Pq._C?>.qf.YۓфPSBc|_9Jǩ..a.ָ8li.Mxo \ ..f&..Y.H6W0.7. .O䠖Y.. < 1338053765 801112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw people watching the termcast < 1338053767 721379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 80x25 not 80x24 < 1338053767 956274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1338053791 611443 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EMBARK TIME < 1338053801 238473 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(80x25 is default for DF) < 1338053802 182689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what partty name < 1338053803 280712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you pick < 1338053813 332362 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beeseizures < 1338053825 682552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1338053830 826899 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1338053833 656129 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beeseizures of Doom < 1338053847 730159 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :type x*y into google < 1338053853 946403 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing anything really gets bigger than my 160x30 terminal < 1338053884 350924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did that really say oklo < 1338053894 575050 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... not sure < 1338054010 531856 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... < 1338054017 565400 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought aquifers were more wet < 1338054030 493841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what happens is when you dig the rock goes all bade. < 1338054033 92086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the wiki for informatione < 1338054043 202119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't jsut want to dig down < 1338054047 598488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there s a trick to it < 1338054088 332024 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder where 80x25 comes from < 1338054109 8960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dos < 1338054110 431851 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: MS-DOS? < 1338054113 203036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather bios < 1338054117 170973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather ibm pc in general < 1338054135 37803 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weren't there some other terminals that had that amount of chars before? < 1338054135 301946 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :VGA BIOS. < 1338054138 96574 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338054169 602896 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the width of 80 comes from the size of punch cards, which was based on the size of late-19th century american dollars, iirc < 1338054201 568962 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah vt100 had 80x24 chars < 1338054305 609509 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably where the pc's 80x25 comes from < 1338054343 996278 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and probably various signal timing considerations :D < 1338054483 713808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you check wiki < 1338054487 325288 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1338054489 79060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not yuo're fortress will probably die < 1338054489 878401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good < 1338054501 875759 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fortress will probably die anyway < 1338054506 293497 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is Dwarf Fortress < 1338054584 93593 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm me < 1338054611 835846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for values of probably equal to certainly < 1338055121 71114 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338055198 95754 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338055316 461115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, 320x224 used to be a very common screen res because it was easy to get it out of a standard TV < 1338055382 942384 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because the real tv resolution is 240 lines (from 262.5 if you count HBlank), but TVs overscan for some retarded reason so you only get about 224 < 1338055401 580727 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they decided to not make any content for those extra lines over 224 :D < 1338055513 781201 :Guest28135!~T@112.215.45.203 NICK :Mike < 1338055543 275604 :Mike!~T@112.215.45.203 NICK :Guest86467 < 1338055561 639565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest86467: you can't use a name reserved by someone else, try a different name < 1338055636 294053 :Guest86467!~T@112.215.45.203 NICK :Guestxxxxx < 1338055644 675280 :Guestxxxxx!~T@112.215.45.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hihihi < 1338055664 291403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338055671 617667 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkstemp(Guestxxxxx) < 1338055771 262892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: has to be six Xs, and they have to be capital < 1338055790 676445 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: THANK YOU FOR EXAMINING MY JOKE, CAPTAIN PEDANTRY. < 1338055792 32437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks that that's a somewhat weird restriction < 1338055794 178979 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :UP, UP AND AWAY < 1338055810 352544 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also for SNES, 16 extra lines of vblank is nice) < 1338055844 842342 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and saving 16 lines of fillrate on psx is also nice :D ) < 1338055985 591040 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In *your* system’s definition of mkstemp, sure. :-P < 1338056003 66088 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338056187 631898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote cblink < 1338056191 170170 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :825) hack and back? works on anything much slower than you at the cost of: guilt, hating yourself, me sending you the message "hi" am I also forbidden to cast mephitic cloud and cblink i will also send you "hi" if you: kite excessively, use mephitic cloud, -yes < 1338056382 301742 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a coati? < 1338056427 836903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google what's a coati < 1338056430 490475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.zooborns.com/zooborns/2009/07/darmstadt-zoo-germany-coati-babies.html < 1338056430 684547 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: What's a Coati? - ZooBorns < 1338056569 909481 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338057032 623837 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going now, bye < 1338057046 700208 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338058357 985384 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133EEC.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338058773 845292 :Guestxxxxx!~T@112.215.45.203 QUIT :Quit: Rooms • iPhone IRC Client • http://www.roomsapp.mobi < 1338058932 981316 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338058968 77671 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-151-77.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338059195 310442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338059350 36856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck4 forest < 1338059426 11292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fuck4 forest < 1338059462 437594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338059466 227181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1338059467 507700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that fuck4 < 1338059473 638744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get to tell them about preview < 1338059496 732958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how sad that they will never know < 1338059566 803470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you get to tell them about preview < 1338059609 277555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1338059619 503529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed that one of my RC entries was actually 22 condensed < 1338059639 558776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, everyone else should use RSS recent changes too, avoids the problem neatly :) < 1338059716 747372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and informed < 1338059734 761238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1338059874 11042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120525/04185919074/tv-networks-file-legal-claims-saying-skipping-commercials-is-copyright-infringement.shtml < 1338059890 701790 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :KMines’ clock seems to wrap around hourly. < 1338059912 848190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how horrible is dgamelaunch < 1338059923 893354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly less horrible than "horrible" < 1338059929 705899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound good < 1338059932 521518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps "quirky" < 1338059935 67150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how easy is it to set up :P < 1338059941 132249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know how to set it up already, it's easy < 1338059942 547788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, how much system load does it drain?) < 1338059946 680810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, I recommend finding instructions somewhere < 1338059952 81469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rephrase: would it slow the wiki down) < 1338059971 973135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could just write my own server but ehhh < 1338059980 785797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dgl itself doesn't put a huge amount of load on the server < 1338059984 55036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things it's running might do < 1338060011 8019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll put a higher load on if things produce a lot of output, because of trying to record it < 1338060031 62176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll disable autoexplore :P < 1338060345 959281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: would asking you questions about dgamelaunch be productive? < 1338060369 152072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sadly, the person I find most knowledgeable about dgl at the moment is kerio < 1338060376 959054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably refer questions to him < 1338060384 318184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or paxed, who's the current maintainer, but is typically very busy) < 1338060386 736100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1338060393 627614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you get all the suffering < 1338060417 32006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my question is: is dgamelaunch protocol-agnostic, i.e. can I run it behind anything that can start a remote process, or does it hook into telnet/ssh specially? < 1338060433 298255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I think I know that one, you configure telnet/ssh to run it < 1338060449 899029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I should be able to get it to run behind mosh, then < 1338060465 272913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: imagine a server that lets you know when you're lagging instead of having to mash an invalid key!!! < 1338060549 237354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think monqy is imagining hard enough < 1338060721 280043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice oriph < 1338060736 848359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: fire storm "considered op in light" < 1338060747 604482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's op in regular crawl too < 1338060748 846355 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no surprise < 1338060762 309682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicer range in light though < 1338060779 154505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's ok i'll imagine it without you < 1338060846 823374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which: < 1338060866 243967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it possible to adjust how long mosh waits before complaining about lag < 1338061048 433132 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only by editing the source code < 1338061080 688819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :( < 1338061084 475407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long does it normally wait? < 1338061137 991395 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember < 1338061141 68386 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 10s or so < 1338061177 349586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1338061179 430218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather 1-2s < 1338061183 421650 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1338061187 824476 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go ahead and change it < 1338061195 420236 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but note that the default heartbeat interval is 3s < 1338061212 412803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather not have to get anyone who wants to use my server to patch and compile mosh < 1338061214 125203 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if nothing is happening you will get a "lag" warning every 3s < 1338061227 333398 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the message is a client side thing < 1338061232 447299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok 3s is acceptable < 1338061236 9963 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, i guess they would need to compile it themselves < 1338061242 41312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for a roguelike < 1338061247 637511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which the most annoying lag only lasts a second or two < 1338061265 420995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'd be nice to be notified of it rather than having to spam a key that has some visual effect < 1338061270 812622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make sure you're not playing blindly < 1338061589 736901 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANNOUNCEMENT: < 1338061591 670240 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a kitty. < 1338061609 936889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338061625 340326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how easy would it be for the mosh server to be able to control how long to wait before complaining about lag < 1338061636 800599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or how long the heartbeat interval is < 1338061665 959043 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with unmodified clients? i don't think that's possible < 1338061672 393698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1338061677 579414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how easy would it be for mosh to allow that < 1338061685 615265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon someone is going to wonder what happened to the previous kitties. < 1338061729 190628 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think it would not be too hard < 1338061740 167020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yay < 1338061745 176719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps Gregor is one of those cat ladies. < 1338061745 371636 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would just make these parameters be part of the terminal-state object which is synchronized between client and server < 1338061756 989478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do i need to yell at people to get it to happen :P < 1338061768 371169 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends on whether your yelling takes the form of a patch < 1338061776 884468 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see a great need for this feature; maybe you can elaborate < 1338061789 610384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338061791 767028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:40 it's for a roguelike < 1338061791 961506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:40 in which the most annoying lag only lasts a second or two < 1338061791 961679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:41 and it'd be nice to be notified of it rather than having to spam a key that has some visual effect < 1338061793 672819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:41 to make sure you're not playing blindly < 1338061804 698885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it waits like 10 seconds before notifying you there's lag < 1338061810 484560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you still have to do that a bunch < 1338061812 76337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is annoying < 1338061831 431153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I could configure the server to say "hey, heartbeat every one second and complain about lag every one second" < 1338061834 796043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would be massively reduced < 1338061865 182078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :It is the year 2525 and man is still alive | I think pointers are considerably more useful than lambda calculus | 12345678 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1338061902 567973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those digits for elliott? < 1338061909 164134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does he still have the keyboard problem? < 1338061909 557157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they were < 1338061918 400615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive just gotten really fast at copying and pasting < 1338061923 750552 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it seems more reasonable to have it be configured by the client, rather than something the server pushes to the client < 1338061925 523974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the topic is anachronistic < 1338061969 305644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fair enough, but "mosh server" is easier to tell people to type than "mosh --heartbeat=1 --lag-timeout=1 server" < 1338061984 116811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems reasonable for the server to be able to specify a default < 1338062005 952057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and thus you are discovering that mosh and telnet are designed to solve different problems < 1338062021 247907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't see the relevance < 1338062027 848419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does telnet solve my problem any better < 1338062038 566632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet does not even indicate lag at all < 1338062057 556295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can write a telnet client that does < 1338062059 620081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TAEB uses one) < 1338062106 378145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh has other advantages too < 1338062113 292222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why you think it's less suitable than telnet < 1338062151 378396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338062210 859885 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a strange point to make, given that the mosh client already indicates lag < 1338062222 333933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what point is strange to make? < 1338062229 206982 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you can make a telnet client that does < 1338062234 576892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by way of contrasting with mosh < 1338062251 567850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you were talking about ais523's point < 1338062261 502921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what ais523 is talking about really :P < 1338062271 526607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a counterargument to elliott's argument < 1338062296 361356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which argument < 1338062301 105211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338062305 580760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's your original argument that doesn't make any sense < 1338062308 496143 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree that mosh and telnet solve different problems though < 1338062312 578748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the different problems mosh and telnet are trying to solve, in your opinion < 1338062318 754898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why is my problem more like the problem telnet solves than the problem mosh solves < 1338062322 365467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and what do you think my problem is) < 1338062332 543837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, things like ssh are basically based around solving /authentication/ < 1338062338 519141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to run a shell remotely and proving it's you < 1338062350 905616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh is based around how, inside a single-user session, you can keep it connected and so on < 1338062358 415422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet is more broadcasty, it allows anyone to connect without checking < 1338062364 398075 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main difference i see is that telnet and ssh convey a reliable octet stream from one point to another < 1338062368 118003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, telnet is a really well-designed protocol < 1338062375 473809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all sorts of extensions < 1338062387 689072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mosh does not depend on ssh < 1338062395 573923 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas mosh synchronizes the current state of your terminal, without regard for the past < 1338062396 607213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and roaming is not the only advantage it offers < 1338062399 787634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it does for auth, doesn't it? < 1338062403 133646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: only by default < 1338062406 227637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1338062415 963664 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there are two layers to mosh < 1338062434 635184 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the lower layer you run mosh-server, it prints an AES key, then you convey that to the client securely (this is up to you) and run mosh-client < 1338062436 589158 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone's done much with *other* mosh authentication schemes, but the design of it (as far as I'm aware) is such that you could reasonably use anything. < 1338062450 168991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:59 whereas mosh synchronizes the current state of your terminal, without regard for the past < 1338062456 766385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one reason I find mosh desirable, btw < 1338062468 32027 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for the common case of authenticating over ssh, we provide a wrapper script that runs mosh-server and mosh-client for you < 1338062472 145180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's likely to be more efficient at updating a changing game screen < 1338062472 632009 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an utility to batch convert unix text files to cr-lf format < 1338062480 504958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also because it means that setting your TERM to something different doesn't break spectators < 1338062483 722245 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: unix2dos < 1338062484 556319 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: unix2dos < 1338062501 12070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, and I find ssh a preferable auth mechanism to telnet < 1338062502 621475 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it console or gui < 1338062506 183203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because sending passwords in the clear sucks < 1338062509 958735 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Console. < 1338062512 161942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, many roguelike servers use ssh already < 1338062513 401885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the compression < 1338062516 61907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just tell telnet to use ssl < 1338062524 305745 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Batch convert"? GUIs suck for that. < 1338062533 475053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think you're trolling at this point < 1338062546 731397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: telnet with ssl is installed and currently running on nethack4.org < 1338062546 925813 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: was thinking of something more like oggdropXPd < 1338062551 956865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i am aware of this < 1338062553 998911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also irrelevant < 1338062566 664667 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie a GUI app designed to convert a lot of files conveiniently < 1338062572 331361 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: So, you want a child's toy. < 1338062575 614107 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338062576 6000 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there is https://github.com/dmilith/genmosh < 1338062593 690773 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want something that's convenient < 1338062597 898370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: for x in *.c; do unix2dos "$x"; done < 1338062599 208134 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: for i in *.txt; do unix2dos $i; done < 1338062600 124865 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't really like console apps < 1338062601 594330 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last time I looked at the code, it seemed like a security disaster < 1338062607 600346 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm running win7 < 1338062617 176331 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you want a child's toy. Got it. < 1338062623 567199 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus no < 1338062631 50476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"child's toy" is a really stupid way of phrasing that < 1338062633 641735 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi, how can I batch convert unix to dos files? but i have to do it while blindfolded using only my left pinky toe" < 1338062643 223415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a console application is really going to be 10x more convenient for converting a bunch of files in batch < 1338062646 921794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :than having to select each one < 1338062653 777868 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get some real tools and then use them to solve your problem < 1338062655 599477 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: more like highlight a bunch of files in explorer, drag, drop, kdone < 1338062663 865893 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :faster than the stupid console < 1338062668 208019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realise you can drag things to console programs right < 1338062686 454433 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so I wouldn't recommedn this genmosh to anyone ;P but it's at least an example of someone making an alt mechanism and publishing it < 1338062698 593293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I typically use a one-liner Perl script, unix2dos never seems to be installed when I need it < 1338062701 891847 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, in Windows, if you select a bunch of files and drag it onto a console program, it passes those files as arguments. < 1338062704 785690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish web browsers supported ssh authentication < 1338062710 551362 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe it got less disastrous < 1338062713 662286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/is/ unix2dos a one-liner Perl script, I wonder? never thought of checking) < 1338062718 640833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is < 1338062720 914796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh key authentication < 1338062724 635335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Windows, it is possible to drag files from Explorer into the command prompt window. < 1338062738 512201 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's a good example of the *principle* that you can implement alternate authentication. < 1338062739 109196 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: doesn't that tend to bust the command line length limit? < 1338062746 873500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly a similar program could be made for Linux too < 1338062752 61603 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: or was that just a win98 limitation < 1338062758 691944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :another good reason not to use windows :) < 1338062765 680075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it depend on the version? I seem to remember that that doesn't work from Windows Vista onwards due to some complicated security thing involving messaging < 1338062778 593154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it already works in linux < 1338062785 864092 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: Huh, it's 32k. < 1338062786 58399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with reasonable file browser/terminal combinations < 1338062789 216525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338062793 741418 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, I compose music, the win32/64 programs for that are just much, much better than the linux ones < 1338062795 364138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasonable as in similar < 1338062808 172486 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: so install a real command line environment for windows < 1338062816 502276 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as cygwin < 1338062818 204585 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, cygwin is retarded < 1338062825 120121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1338062829 421054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you want help or do you want to complain and annoy everybody < 1338062833 485119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the latter, please just /part instead < 1338062837 3157 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me that you now have a task different from composing music, for which win32/64 may not be a good choice < 1338062851 553965 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: When I compose music I find the programs best which are cross-platform anyways < 1338062852 341006 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wanted some useful nice tool < 1338062855 74083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: don't you know the old aphorism "use the right tool for one specific job I do and the wrong tool for everything else" < 1338062866 691133 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that the operating system is really relevant at all here < 1338062870 646877 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: k, I think you have your answer by now that we don't know of one < 1338062878 825493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: well, you've been offered several practical and convenient ways to do what you want < 1338062896 486321 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been offered one yes < 1338062914 798392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple awyways < 1338062927 237619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For music I use things such as MCK < 1338062930 517362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can convert in WordPad, I think, although not batch-convert < 1338062939 92485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a console program and drag stuff to it (whether the icon itself or a running console prompt); or install cygwin and use that to circumvent limits with the previous solution < 1338062942 804671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and also allow convenient globbing) < 1338062943 477428 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also been preached to for not liking neckbearded tools and the command line < 1338062953 814246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't care if people don't like command lines < 1338062960 43216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, GUI programs are bad at batch jobs; you can design a GUI for one specific batch job, but you can't make a general one to handle batch-ising of jobs < 1338062962 741831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I care if people complaing when they're suggested for good and justified reasons and then just yell and insult people < 1338062965 950265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you're doing now < 1338062969 122332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's a GUI version of xargs, nor can even figure out how one would work < 1338062971 837122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, just go away < 1338062979 4820 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the option of reporting bugs in a bunch of software: programs SHOULD support most reasonable newline conventions. < 1338062988 233490 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: for some very specific case you'll have to use batch scripts yeah < 1338063012 268757 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Select a group of files, drag them to an executable. By GUI convention, that behaves like xargs. < 1338063017 535103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even not in those cases, I often do anyway because it's a much simpler and faster way of expressing what I want < 1338063017 728980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: we already suggested that < 1338063025 517240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that behaves like xargs for opening files < 1338063026 428594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr isn't happy because it involves a console window popping up at some point presumably < 1338063030 233488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he'd be a neckbeard!!! < 1338063031 17683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an equivalent for performing transformations? < 1338063037 125705 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not REALLY reading, this conversation is very stupid. < 1338063060 549854 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nah, drag and drop to console apps is fine < 1338063071 4748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...then why are you still complaining < 1338063075 610985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the second thing suggested < 1338063088 615771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"neckbearded tool" < 1338063102 448865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find usually even drag/drop not needed since you can use wildcards and/or tab completion, but sometimes dragging the files to the command-line window is very useful < 1338063139 844468 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, but you're not offended by the idea of using a command line tool. :) < 1338063176 384229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if using a system that does not support dragging between windows, if there is a clipboard (such as the X clipboard or whatever) you can make it that whatever files are selected their full paths goes on the clipboard. < 1338063204 563551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the PRIMARY buffer, so that you can then middle-click the terminal emulator window to paste the names there. < 1338063303 901293 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a neckbearded solution < 1338063357 616227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone hecked my aim and it gave me a neckbeard < 1338063359 895250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1338063365 878036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else have we been referencing for the past 17 years < 1338063393 730393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone hecked my aim and it trapped me in a matrix of solidity, causing me to grow a neckbeard < 1338063397 990365 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a neckbeard anyway? < 1338063415 80721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the clue's in the name < 1338063481 110261 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to me that neckbeard should either be just "beard" or just "hair" < 1338063488 559512 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on which side of the neck you're referring to < 1338063542 412547 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: statring forth <-- thanks < 1338063558 635245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i think thinking forth is meant to be better < 1338063561 76678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't recall exactly < 1338063563 585376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same author) < 1338063564 421472 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : and you can use oonbotti's interactive forth interpreter <-- I'm learning forth because I need to use it, so I already have a target implementation in mind < 1338063566 304081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've read neither) < 1338063574 365077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: forth implementations tend to differ wildly < 1338063580 295511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the one you are planning to use? < 1338063600 570880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's a specific kind of beard < 1338063617 934412 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you know about the minecraft mod redpower2? Adds a fully emulated 6802 running forth into minecraft. :) < 1338063624 993466 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as of the last version) < 1338063628 809741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don;t have a beard. there's just a black hole underneath my face < 1338063636 476273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ok well the chances that's ans forth are pretty low i'd say < 1338063655 421763 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I looked at it, and it looks like pre ans forth yeah. < 1338063662 694653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has been a singularitarian too long < 1338063669 127104 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, based on the internet, I think I've identified my usual beard as a neckbeard < 1338063704 82122 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure... am I supposed to shave my face but leave my neck, for it to become a neckbeard? < 1338063705 234545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: then any intro book will probably cease being useful to you after a sufficient number of chapters < 1338063711 911205 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway that mod is cool, you can put redwire (basically better behaved redstone dust, that doesn't fade so quickly, can be insulated, can run on walls and much more) < 1338063713 532451 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338063746 691320 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I just need help getting started with the basics really. < 1338063772 58887 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think the idea is that a neckbeard is an extension of a regular beard.. < 1338063785 329643 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, redpower is awesomeness. < 1338063804 647414 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the first time ive heard that word though < 1338063863 864332 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also that mod has probably the lowest density memory ever: 8K expansion modules connected to the backplane, each module a full cubic meter! < 1338063900 514857 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: By Minecraft standards that's impossibly high density. < 1338063909 331920 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite! < 1338063912 26399 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not so sure now < 1338063940 238824 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, looked at Mystcraft btw? It is basically a mod that lets you write books linking to new dimensions (with certain properties you discover by experimenting and can then use at will), in Myst style < 1338063943 871379 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a nice mod < 1338063944 706203 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Little bit. < 1338063947 728114 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty neat. < 1338063965 34807 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Checked out frames in RP? < 1338063967 86731 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :other great mod: logistics pipes (addon for buildcraft). < 1338063987 893787 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, that is what I'm going to use my forth skills (that I'm planning to learn) for. < 1338063999 949266 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good choice. :) < 1338064008 38997 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :automated mining machine. With the enterchest mod to move stuff back to base. < 1338064031 783350 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338064039 797723 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I have a lot of mods installed. Using the multimc launcher currently, it is really good. < 1338064063 344570 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :handles installing the mods for you, you just drag the zip files into it and it handles the rest < 1338064066 690520 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use some hacked up shell scripts. :) < 1338064076 583714 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I'm too lazy for that < 1338064096 728230 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I needed something that was cross platform, since I sometimes dual boot one computer to windows < 1338064121 324524 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, anyway: used logistics pipes? < 1338064125 522195 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah. < 1338064128 693881 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is t3h awesome. < 1338064157 207969 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have like 250 auto crafting tables set up along the walls of a room, with logistics pipes connected to them < 1338064171 821837 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :only issue is that the request interface gets clunking with that many recipes < 1338064223 150408 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, many mod recipes are downright annoying. Like the frame motors.... Oh and the wireless redstone ones (another mod, using the one that integrates with redpower) < 1338064316 805444 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you need to make an obsidian stick, then a "reather pearl" (sp?), then combine those. Then combine that with a stone bowl you just crafted. Now you have an antenna dish. And that is just about half the work of a transmitter or a reciever... < 1338064352 942234 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, actually that is for receiver, there is no dish for the transmitter < 1338064373 618645 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, anyway, which mods do you play with? < 1338064544 965804 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the bigs ones ATM are RP, IC, BC, logistics pipes, EE... < 1338064575 874061 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally: in jar: modloader, forge, mystcraft, NEI (for displaying recipes and for cheating in my test world), rei minimap, optifine. In mods/: buildcraft, equivalent exchange, ender chests, forestry, industrialcraft, invtweaks, laser mod, logistics pipe, compact solars (IC2 addon), ironchests, railcraft, redpower, treecapitator, WR-CBE (that is the wireless redstone one), somnia (so time is simulated < 1338064576 68551 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : while you sleep). Plus a few smaller buildcraft addons. < 1338064600 331286 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I forgot that IC2 addon that adds like induction furnace tire machines for macerator and so on < 1338064632 142054 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use the portal gun mod too. It is fun but a bit overpowered for survival... < 1338064693 912253 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you should try out railcraft. It is kind of neat. A bit more useful in SMP though I feel, since you don't tend to get cities to travel between in single player < 1338064718 761632 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, stuff like elevator rails are cool :) < 1338064805 330518 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys are still playing MC? < 1338064805 897899 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1338064817 643992 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: On occasion. < 1338064821 276005 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, only heavily modded MC. Wouldn't play vanilla any longer < 1338064832 15442 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not as much as I used to < 1338064835 61626 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens, really, is sometimes I get in the mood and play for a while, and then leave it abandoned for a while. < 1338064855 205173 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :played fallout new vegas today a lot. And a bit of MC < 1338064885 639549 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I found I roughly play every other release of MC. < 1338064910 223250 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hardly touched 1.1, did quite a bit on 1.0 and I am now playing 1.2.5 quite a bit < 1338065063 131282 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, btw I found that an issue with EE is that it pretty much makes any other sort of resource acquirement pointless once you reach the EE endgame. I could just slap down a mark 3 collector next to a energy condenser and set it to generate diamonds, then hook up a provider logistics pipe. And I no longer need to mine any diamonds... < 1338065106 929876 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: By the time you hit the EE endgame, resource acquisition is just an annoyance anyways. < 1338065111 511525 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1338065136 929854 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, but I hit it before redpower frames were added, so now I'm kind of hard pressed to find a use for my frames :P < 1338065209 426842 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently I have more red matter in my automated farm for that than I know what to do with. I started transmuting the stuff into pedestals to save space! < 1338065225 489377 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't like throwing away EMC) < 1338065271 712587 :FluffBall!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1338065332 342652 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, of course, since I have forestry I have not even reached close to the endgame of THAT. God damn bees with 8% chance of mutation... < 1338065374 129630 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338065381 822224 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, read the log :) < 1338065461 853962 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, every tried the forestry mod? < 1338065549 661264 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-228-72.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338065587 252564 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a nice kind-of-addon to buildcraft (it used to be an addon, but now it is technically freestanding, though significantly more useful with buildcraft). It adds biofuel for example, as an alternative to the finite oil resource of buildcraft. < 1338065640 709567 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also adds stuff like reed farms, tree farms, peat farms and what not. Oh and *really* in-depth beekeeping. < 1338065952 66324 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338066001 114567 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My new hobby http://youtu.be/_aW6d46VbpM < 1338066082 392386 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, did the guy inside survive? < 1338066140 504781 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know as much as you do. < 1338066209 221873 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Your new hobby is killing yourself in stupid ways? < 1338066225 955338 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: Yes, preferably losing an arm in the process. < 1338066285 977162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"derka derka allah jihad [+18]" the only thing stupider than youtube comments is the people who upvote youtube comments < 1338066296 831196 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard that ELKS has got an update? < 1338066304 592365 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I'm just amazed that guy didn't kill anyone else as well < 1338066370 360490 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, the quote is "derka derka muhammed jihad". < 1338066395 506243 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Verily. < 1338066440 471313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: it doesn't really matter what the quote is < 1338066474 301057 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Course, that movie was really, really stupid... < 1338067303 558006 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Weird, I'd have assumed ELKS to be pretty dead. < 1338067340 107499 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: me too. but they got release out after 6 years < 1338067425 150692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's some sort of a zombie kernel. < 1338067508 732941 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. they also got it to git and left cvs behind < 1338067556 581907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can elks even run git < 1338067609 384501 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1338067657 112187 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also got a new project: busyelks. it is busybox style thingie for elks. < 1338067797 624086 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ELKS? < 1338067838 528439 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Embeddable Linux Kernel Subset < 1338067845 347301 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does ELKS still use bcc? They should switch to owcc ... < 1338067849 514963 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, never heard of that one even < 1338067849 709225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1338067855 298083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Embeddable Linux Kernel System, isn't it < 1338067857 209890 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, so something like µclinux? < 1338067859 705359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the website disagrees with itself < 1338067865 564202 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: they still use bcc < 1338067877 217908 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: basicaly. but for 8086 < 1338067882 565933 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338067898 617985 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wasn't/isn't there a C compiler frontend with a name just like ELKS? < 1338067913 47672 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :something very close anyway? < 1338067984 673203 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh... need to sleep, just feel half asleep on top of my keyboard for a few seconds... < 1338067985 720340 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1338068095 349582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love microsleeps < 1338068215 508958 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s fun when you happen to be pushing some key at the time you fall to microsleep. < 1338068228 272968 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338068231 119980 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, “it’s fun when you happppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp” < 1338068245 849116 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1338068261 426137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :happpppy happpppy fun < 1338068310 704632 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might not even notice you took a short nap except that a bunch of repeated letters suddenly appeared on your screen. < 1338068702 501139 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1338068725 250958 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first set my hands in the right place, then type with my eyes shu.. and, little errors may start to creep in.. < 1338068740 419713 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its god if you just typing to type < 1338068877 208965 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trouble is overcompensating if you think you held a key too long < 1338068923 893936 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338068935 926883 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1338069008 943699 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338069017 571111 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B650.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338069017 963446 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1338069060 439202 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338069416 223076 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is owcc open watcom? what kind of license they have? < 1338069447 488532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is < 1338070159 551733 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is watching an IWBTG blind LP for some reason < 1338070627 847417 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Yes, Open Watcom. It's under a wonky but usable license, FSF-rejected but OSI-approved because it actually /requires/ that you publish changes you make in certain circumstances where you don't even publish the binaries. < 1338070653 861088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: bleh, that's dfsg-violating < 1338070665 526361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would the OSI approve that? it's evil < 1338070683 538056 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfsg-violating? < 1338070701 642606 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's not a great license X-D < 1338070705 816303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google dfsg wikipedia < 1338070707 693332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines < 1338070707 955733 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Debian Free Software Guidelines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1338070722 354254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fails the desert islnad test < 1338070723 526005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*island < 1338070879 120935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the dissident test < 1338071050 495840 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs. < 1338071063 841866 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (!strcmp, name, EXPECTED) { < 1338071070 391948 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering why my code was being odd. < 1338071099 146492 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, wow. < 1338071102 973221 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what :D < 1338071109 406486 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've been compiling with -Wall < 1338071423 686746 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, it is *valid* C, at least. < 1338071430 36512 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338071435 398562 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: That's the problem. :-( < 1338072039 500897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :strictly conforming, isn't it? < 1338072044 372847 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338072055 194693 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf++ < 1338072057 727850 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's *silly* behavior, but it's quite well-defined. < 1338072063 552973 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on the IOCCC are we < 1338072075 456991 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(silly in the sense of "nobody would intentionally do this") < 1338072217 956177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "valid" means "strictly conforming" in the context of C :P < 1338072223 924997 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133EEC.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] < 1338072263 546641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah. < 1338072277 130958 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does gcc -Wall actually catch that < 1338072280 709575 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338072291 529293 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : warning: the address of ‘strcmp’ will always evaluate as ‘true’ [-Waddress] < 1338072301 948796 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : warning: left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect [-Wunused-value] < 1338072343 929534 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah nice < 1338072480 577052 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1338072480 809038 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1338072563 722624 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338072727 980678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats FireFly -----### < 1338072780 283216 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What now? < 1338072792 466378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were severely under quota here < 1338072795 243803 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Are syscalls actually made through the VDSO? < 1338072815 334076 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1338072816 698333 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1338072817 829848 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1338072818 650873 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :537) elliott_, oh they are people known in the ruby community? Vorpal: Uh... you mean Hannah Montana? elliott_, yeah. And Zed Shaw. Either they are that or they come from popular culture. < 1338072819 174251 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1338072820 335467 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1338072821 9005 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338072826 945420 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :411) Gregor: do you have any idea how overrated lives are Damn right! < 1338072828 930430 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :195) That is the mark of Gregor right there. tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that It's still the mark of Gregor. < 1338072836 1366 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :718) The only way you could do better would be to implement Monopoly with chocolate. < 1338072839 31822 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :39) [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective < 1338072844 313609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :411 imo < 1338072845 238269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523? < 1338072849 845294 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: on Linux i386 it's the current preferred mechanism, though direct int $0x80 still works < 1338072850 39459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or 195 < 1338072851 550843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was about to say 411 < 1338072855 440250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 537 < 1338072860 527980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like 537 < 1338072860 747187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like 195 < 1338072864 313941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 411 < 1338072867 719478 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Gregor: do you have any idea how overrated lives are Damn right! < 1338072870 493260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, you ninja'd me < 1338072872 91015 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: on Linux amd64 you use the 'syscall' instruction directly, and the VDSO is only for userspace "vsyscalls" like gettimeofday < 1338072878 187774 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Ah, but on amd64 it just uses the syscall instruction? < 1338072884 688420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing I managed to cancel typing that, or I'd have to revert the deltion of the new 411 < 1338072886 99725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 411 < 1338072888 507112 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's what it was looking like. < 1338072889 459203 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :411) " Damn right!" wouldn't be much of a quote :P < 1338072895 105463 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastefortunes < 1338072900 564083 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.7017 < 1338072904 655096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, that one's deleratble too :) < 1338072908 469425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338072909 254263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave it < 1338072915 110587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must leave quotes that get their meaning removed < 1338072915 574157 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So where can I get a guaranteed executable syscall instruction in the address space? :-( < 1338072926 155148 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the VDSO (a) still has them and (b) isn't guaranteed. < 1338072934 521784 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't have any new ideas since last time < 1338072939 458724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 410 < 1338072942 751551 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :410) decrypt 'illustrates the "can do" approach of conservatism in a patriotic way' < 1338072955 125133 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean Intel 64®, not amd64. < 1338072963 464479 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that Intel® 64? < 1338072970 794929 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itanium < 1338072972 439892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works on both < 1338072973 595910 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better go with Intel® 64® just to be safe. < 1338072989 58932 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"intel 64" ≠ ia64 < 1338072993 757179 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338073015 239892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1338073020 735437 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just assume the names are maximally confusing < 1338073029 759490 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :intell's 64bit x86 CPUs are actually amd64 CPUs < 1338073043 64514 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-l < 1338073054 319014 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and they're also Intel® 64® CPUs. < 1338073069 442533 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you figure out an answer to newsham's question? < 1338073072 634010 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Or you! < 1338073083 236931 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pclmullqlqdq < 1338073091 695944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was newsham's question? < 1338073106 601107 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It was about how you can figure out the cardinalities of polymorphic types. < 1338073121 714974 :JKL1234-!~JKL1234@71-217-43-15.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338073133 309322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome JKL1234- < 1338073136 386162 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :JKL1234-: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338073136 647067 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, forall a. a -> a has one inhabitant, and forall a. a -> a -> a has 2. < 1338073154 144650 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you do a pseudo-algebraic thing like you normally do with cardinalities to figure it out? < 1338073162 443699 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> (a -> b) -> a -> b is also 2 < 1338073180 406099 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :JKL1234-: What brings you here? < 1338073196 9053 :JKL1234-!~JKL1234@71-217-43-15.tukw.qwest.net PART :#esoteric < 1338073208 471906 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a short visit. < 1338073231 18172 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, which two? < 1338073239 795283 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apply is one, obviously. < 1338073247 449103 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: There are two "a"s to apply. < 1338073260 233430 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, duh. < 1338073397 59654 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1338073402 782747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You need parametricity for that. < 1338073403 9639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can't prove it everywhere that the algebraic type law stuff applies. < 1338073403 9835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it's true in system F < 1338073403 200659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have thought of things like that too; with things like (forall x. x -> x -> x -> x -> x -> x) the cardinality is how many -> there are. And do you know what kind of function (forall x. [x] -> Maybe x) is? < 1338073443 43985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the latter could branch on length to select which element, if any, to use? < 1338073453 527844 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338073459 397120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. < 1338073468 195440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it needs to have an upper bound if you allow infinite lists < 1338073468 386123 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> a -> a is Nat < 1338073490 985253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, that is church natural numbers < 1338073612 647465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What it seems to me is that if the input and output are treated as natural numbers, then the type constrains output to be less than or equal to the input < 1338073613 907396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: for a start, you can try to construct the adt it emulates, like a -> a -> a means there are two constructors with no arguments < 1338073638 58344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> a -> a means there are two constructors, the first takes an argument of the same type < 1338073651 348148 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338073652 585862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. Succ and Zero) < 1338073707 185503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well yes that's one way of looking at it < 1338073998 104169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- google.com ping statistics --- < 1338074001 425087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 packets transmitted, 23 received, 14% packet loss, time 42327ms < 1338074001 616089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 17.485/31.434/156.107/32.597 ms < 1338074006 120076 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338074014 36900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is something wrong with this connection, right? < 1338074045 661851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, is there the other way? < 1338074107 634087 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm it seems like all stack based data manipulation cam be defined using : ; >R R@ R> BEGIN WHILE LOOP IF EPSE THEN - > < 1338074117 379043 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cab < 1338074123 377184 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can < 1338074133 785222 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in forth) < 1338074141 871563 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ELSE < 1338074155 477983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe you mean REPEAT instead of LOOP < 1338074164 576386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm again reminded that TCP can function even in cases of heavy packet loss < 1338074178 247970 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes < 1338074220 72614 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and with AND bitwise arimethrics can be implemented < 1338074241 743930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they're presumably all equivalent... < 1338074242 442456 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not very well, though < 1338074292 657854 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( : NOT 0 SWAP - 1 - ; : NAND AND NOT ; ) < 1338074293 138653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, but what would work better? < 1338074308 459257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 14% isn't as bad as it could be, it mostly just confuses slow-start and that sort of thing < 1338074352 830041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess I can see how they work : DUP >R R@ R> ; : DROP IF THEN ; < 1338074441 787985 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: actually : DROP DUP - - ; < 1338074472 863083 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: + >R 0 R> - - ; < 1338074491 979841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that works too < 1338074537 183265 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( that is how it is implemented in oonbotti's forth ) < 1338074551 520387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if you don't have 0 if you only have 1 you can still make : 0 1 1 - ; < 1338074628 604326 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually even without numbers : + >R DUP DUP - R> - - ; < 1338074805 706059 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also numbers can easily be defined with if you have 0 1+ < 1338074871 221491 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : 2DUP >R R@ OVER R> ; < 1338074888 159962 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 1 2 2DUP . . . . < 1338074888 350884 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 1 2 1 < 1338074969 751331 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ : ROT >R SWAP R> SWAP ; < 1338074991 861202 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 1 2 3 ROT . . . < 1338074992 51852 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 3 2 < 1338075087 353623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1338075171 248465 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: > < NOT ; : = 2DUP > -ROT < OR ; < 1338075303 49533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338075307 450470 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth is pretty awesome because how much of it can be derived from so little < 1338075388 487854 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth is awesome because when people call it "simple" they're not lying. < 1338075461 859576 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: 0 R@ DUP - ; < 1338075471 550053 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1338075567 336346 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with that and 1+ we can define : 1 0 1+ ; < 1338075672 576640 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: 2 1 1+ ; : 3 2 1+ ; : 4 2 2 * ; : 5 4 1+ ; : 6 2 3 * ; and so on and so on < 1338075826 990267 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does strcpy(dst, src) return dst? < 1338075831 369033 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's such a useless value to return. < 1338075845 243069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no it isn't < 1338075853 565598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may well want to assign it to something < 1338075876 329235 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So assign dst to that something. < 1338075885 9729 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A much more useful value might be dst + strlen(src) < 1338075901 728881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree w/ shachaf < 1338075910 983958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :strcpy is practically broken because of that < 1338075914 791783 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or void. void would be better than always returning the first argument. :-( < 1338075945 712314 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes I agree, dst + strlen(src) would probably be better < 1338075972 507608 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quotw 195 < 1338075974 636223 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quotw: not found < 1338075976 305244 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 195 < 1338075979 98016 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :195) That is the mark of Gregor right there. tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that It's still the mark of Gregor. < 1338075991 145864 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote self < 1338075994 134543 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :43) I spent the last minute or so killing myself repeatedly \ 88) so a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.com might be self-relative, but a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com always means a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com.? \ 106) if you claim that the universe is more than 3D the burden of proof is on you to produce a klien bottle that doesn't self intersect ^ I learned that trick from atheists < 1338076043 995231 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, did quote 195 actually happen, or is HackEgo hallucinating? < 1338076063 677433 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi HackEgo < 1338076065 232679 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo < 1338076066 580559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it'd be entirely possible to produce a klein bottle that doesn't self-intersect by using time as the remaining dimension < 1338076073 575856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but might be quite mechanically awkward to create one < 1338076083 17491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it probably just run out of space on the line < 1338076100 654296 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quotificate ais523 < 1338076103 103278 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quotificate: not found < 1338076110 113638 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but my logs for freenode don't contain the phrase "mark of Gregor" except as said by HackEgo in that quote. < 1338076129 441771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you weren't there when you said it < 1338076130 412350 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try a case-insensitive search. < 1338076141 765391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ..:..:..: It's still the mark of Gregor. < 1338076256 489099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in #esoteric < 1338076259 976176 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338076262 93418 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. My logs stop three weeks before that. < 1338076266 188283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be UTC not glogbot-stupid-timezone < 1338076280 267998 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid glogbot !! < 1338076287 303777 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have a strict one-year limit on identity. < 1338076295 396068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that quote was 270 for a while < 1338076299 759923 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I have a 15-second limit! < 1338076303 650101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2010 < 1338076306 521845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's 195 nowadays < 1338076311 436786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my logs didn't capture any numbers in between < 1338076312 106892 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If something was done by someone more than one year ago, it was not done by me. < 1338076337 677644 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote tswett < 1338076338 213627 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. That's something I cannot allow to happen. < 1338076400 640139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1338076430 882271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:51 that'll be UTC not glogbot-stupid-timezone < 1338076436 627898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 glogbot's stupid timezone is UTC < 1338076437 256093 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338076523 915121 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, I dropped a few status updates here, too :) The event went fine, the voluntary exercises ran for a couple of weeks, no one really cared to do them, so I quit giving them. < 1338076558 598565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa: Aw, that's a shame. < 1338076563 38432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to hear the event went well, though. < 1338076564 513796 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, to summarise: consciousness about esolangs was heightened, there was nice participation across different universities, it was fun, and not very much else resulted. :) < 1338076579 197387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like the esolangs community in general < 1338076586 798549 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no surprise :) < 1338076653 551037 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the event was really fun. They posed a lot of good questions, both the likes of "how would you do this in Thue?" and the likes of "is there something that uses videos as source code"? < 1338076678 994952 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nooooo I got the quotes and the question mark the wrong way < 1338076936 453173 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: This code had a macro of the form special_debug_printf(("%s", args)). I didn't notice the extra () and #defined special_debug_printf printf. It took me a little while to figure out what was going on. Maybe you can use that for your underhanded code thing! < 1338076941 360890 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is mostly just annoyed at this code. < 1338077069 164679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's for c89 compat < 1338077173 407831 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote Warrigal < 1338077173 598872 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal says: Hey, the module loaded. I didn't expect that. < 1338077189 11889 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... was probably funny in context? < 1338077192 319234 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote factorial < 1338077192 510193 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jcreigh says: i mean if someone says factorial should be of type String -> [(Float, Bool)], you should just tell them they're nuts > let fac n = map (\x -> (x, True)) $ scanl (* < 1338077192 510427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 [1..(read n)] in fac "5" :: [(Float, Bool)] < 1338077231 49210 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote my factorial function < 1338077231 318669 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes for this person. My mind is going. I can feel it. < 1338077852 613361 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338078226 108219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who here is good at naming git branches? :( < 1338078255 922017 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me! < 1338078263 72291 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to name them ee1de02f4cc67f0d5d6a2ed0b3b03c9e6fa5c5a7 < 1338078273 54715 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 2ee1eb0e876e64adf0c35a05ac63c785cfb23cdc < 1338078730 820635 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338078807 884042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have only ever posted updates of files (and new files) to git, not branches < 1338080645 824687 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa: Well, you can put the idea about videos on the esolang wiki list of ideas if you want to < 1338080677 72399 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I didn't know such a list existed < 1338080682 8306 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not :) < 1338080685 92245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a mess. < 1338080687 365025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it exists. < 1338080692 359633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/List_of_ideas < 1338080704 289361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have looked at underhanded C codes and easily find the errors in most cases < 1338080705 258014 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like one, right from the topic :) < 1338080766 606164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It used to be even more mess; it is better now. And still, I think it is good the way it is; ideas with a lot more completion can go to separate pages which can be written better if you have that < 1338080778 734061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is slightly less of a mess. < 1338080783 657103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slightly. < 1338080789 64785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then it got more messy again. < 1338080847 546603 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads http://esolangs.org/wiki/List_of_ideas and patents them all! < 1338080944 853264 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where did you find these codes < 1338080963 301268 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Method and system for implementing a compiler for a programming language based on graphics represented in the American Standard Code for Information Interchange < 1338081003 321941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I forget < 1338081134 198560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In programs that take a random stream of bits to generate random integers within a range, and if the range is not a power of two, would you deal with the uniformness of the generator? < 1338081218 985815 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. < 1338081232 285577 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may not like the situation with "web applications" these days. < 1338081252 131935 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm glad we're not in the days of CGI scripts written in C anymore. < 1338081267 640629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Are you writing a CGI script in C? < 1338081279 59956 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, I'm reading a CGI script written in C. < 1338081280 300365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't like either. But even recently I have written a CGI script in C. < 1338081283 612683 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's not a "script". < 1338081403 573509 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeXnicard uses the following algorithm for random number generator: unsigned int r=max_uint-(max_uint%limit); for(;;) { @; @; } < 1338081517 48770 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338081532 386471 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of language can you make out of only 2 symbols < 1338081540 343983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary < 1338081557 306499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also Jot, which uses 0 and 1 and then eventually ends < 1338081568 157757 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is crazy functionnal stuff? :D < 1338081580 666589 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1338081587 181991 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss monqy. :-( < 1338081623 854754 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1338081631 516429 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who composes music in here < 1338081640 432948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes do < 1338081646 506591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Gregor probably does more < 1338081659 400558 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1338081672 599299 :TheJimmyJames!~TheJimmyJ@124.240.120.61 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338081675 690459 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I think gregor does sheet music, especially piano < 1338081683 107022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome TheJimmyJames < 1338081686 207029 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :TheJimmyJames: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338081702 161795 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo: what sort of music do you do? < 1338081706 237633 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338081765 740659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: I do four-part chorale on paper, I also do monophonic music on QBASIC using PLAY command, and some using Bohlen-Pierce as well using PlayBP which is a subroutine I made up for that purpose < 1338081818 71667 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never tried bohlen-pierce < 1338081841 881396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have experimented with other temperaments as well < 1338081896 743409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also written some polyphonic music using PPMCK < 1338081931 496148 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as of yet the most interesting I've found was using modified scale for some melodic instument, over equal temperament chords < 1338081961 880514 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the arabic-ish kind of scale where you detune stuff like 3rds and 6ths more towards "neutral" intervals < 1338081990 289663 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ppmck is the one for making NES music right? < 1338081994 426981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1338082016 678901 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I've mostly used converters for my nes stuff < 1338082030 979985 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also made some changes to PPMCK, so that a subroutine call followed by return from subroutine is just replaced by a jump instruction instead < 1338082040 106203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What converters? < 1338082064 743706 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the s3m2nsf / it2nsf / supernsf family < 1338082251 673445 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338082308 176208 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supernsf is particularly ridiculous < 1338082314 543317 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets you cheat way too much :D < 1338082319 559770 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94ZEczIYbUQ <- supernsf < 1338082323 71932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheat? < 1338082415 975925 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice anything about the dpcm? :D < 1338082467 145577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean it converts WAV to DPCM and plays that as the music? < 1338082534 917946 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you could do that but it's cooler even < 1338082556 310236 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the song fits in like 200k < 1338082617 866506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever sent anything to Famicompo or Famicompo Mini? < 1338082634 626104 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes the song I linked to was in famicompo mini < 1338082654 682631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What volume and number? I have the entire Famicompo Mini on my computer so I can easily find it < 1338082679 805437 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last one < 1338082706 736236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, what volume number, section (cover or original), and entry number? < 1338082721 204649 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :famicompo 8 cover 63 < 1338082734 968514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1338082837 60206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK now I can see < 1338082967 171694 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be one huge dpcm sample for the whole tune, would be much larger than 200k < 1338082977 947937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I can see what is done now < 1338083016 364952 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a software mixer and reampler for the NES < 1338083025 327803 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses 100% cpu :D < 1338083060 2208 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean you cannot include the music in a game? < 1338083070 298781 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you couldn't put that in a gaime < 1338083075 596373 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it uses 100% < 1338083125 186012 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does nothing else than resample 2~4 channels of sound, apply volume, mix, write to the DPCM port to set position < 1338083150 338908 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from time to time interpret a music data command (to change the sample freq or volume or the NES channels) < 1338083152 183645 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B650.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338083292 84566 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the song has like one sample for each word ("smoke" "wee-" "-eed" "ev-" "-ery" "day"), so all the silly echoes and harmonizations are all sequenced :D < 1338083388 434100 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey hey smoke weed everyday < 1338083469 565785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's what they are saying. I found the speech difficult to understand at first < 1338083503 399218 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's a recent silly meme on youtube < 1338083547 376193 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use samples from that one time snoop dogg says "smoke weed everyday" without any instrumental backing and fit that over random VGM :D < 1338083598 420303 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Only thing is... wouldn't that be against the Big Beat Manifesto?" < 1338083599 526952 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Have you read the Big Beat Manifesto lately? The Big Beat Manifesto goes, 'Big beats are the best, get high all the time.'" < 1338083987 421178 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also did fcm8 original 40, fcm7 original 1 & 71, fcm6 original 19 cover 37 & 42, fcm5 original 58 cover 8, fcm classical original 22 < 1338084159 122123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like fcm8 original 40 and fcm7 original 1, I don't like fcm8 cover 63 much though. < 1338084188 430248 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty dumb < 1338084204 243916 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see the humor of adding "smoke weed every day" to a vgm track < 1338084218 925698 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but adding a poorly autotuned sample on every note? < 1338084228 528556 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just gets annoying fast < 1338084259 662646 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :autotuned? < 1338084277 664634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you have the entire Famicompo Mini on your computer? < 1338084281 837487 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338084293 229397 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways it's mostly for the meme value (and because the moon is a nice song) < 1338084624 874784 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for the meme value" is a completely bankrupt rationale < 1338084656 866706 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why do you keep giving people herpes?" "for the herpes value!" < 1338084706 292675 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you keep giving people herps? For the derps value! < 1338084821 601300 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :herps derps < 1338084894 124662 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: If everyone had herpes, you wouldn't have to worry about giving/getting herpes anymore! < 1338084899 38279 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Herpes: The Great Equalizer. < 1338084934 852716 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smoke weed every day. < 1338085036 337703 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If everyone was dead, you wouldn't have to worry about killing/being killed anymore! < 1338085041 202863 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Death: The Great Equalizer. < 1338085589 878720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the Earth didn't exist, you wouldn't have to worry about it orbiting the Sun anymore! < 1338085693 594784 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spontaneous planetary cessation: The Great Equalizer. < 1338085974 329469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you remind me what the command is in C to access the current UNIX timestamp? < 1338086048 98752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to add a support for a timer to Internet Quiz Engine. < 1338086094 821200 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: time_t time(time_t *t); < 1338086142 230388 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the point of time(2)'s pointer argument? < 1338086152 494995 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no *clue*. < 1338086172 342566 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The *semantics* are that, if t is non-NULL, it'll store its return value in there, too. < 1338086177 791962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1338086179 548659 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why you would want this is beyond me. < 1338086205 920372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially since C allows assignments inside of other expressions < 1338086388 570834 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, does strace replace the VDSO with its a little tracing function or something? < 1338086556 910604 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't believe so < 1338086563 864747 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you see gettimeofday(2) in strace < 1338086583 678181 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might see it in ltrace assuming it's being called through libc < 1338086594 65105 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338086645 446747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it uses ptrace < 1338086686 20764 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know it uses ptrace. That means that it only sees actual system calls that go to the kernel. < 1338086695 35770 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338086697 574932 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1338086706 353860 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do see time(NULL) calls in strace. < 1338086713 957975 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe that's not done through gettimeofday(2). < 1338086732 761569 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the VDSO handles gettimeofday and clock_gettime but I don't know about time < 1338086738 35616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: All of the files you mentioned are very good; the only one you did that I don't like much is fcm8 cover 63 < 1338086745 555628 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my amd64 system I don't see gettimeofday calls unless I build a static binary < 1338086789 740197 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :static binaries don't use vsyscalls but I think on i386 they still use the VDSO for regular syscalls < 1338086807 464771 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why the VDSO even exists. < 1338086817 659981 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on i386 you get an ELF auxv entry for the start of the VDSO ELF in memory, and another auxv entry for the syscall entry point < 1338086819 662707 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, as opposed to doing it in libc. < 1338086822 892084 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on amd64 you get only the first of those < 1338086827 86897 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just so the kernel can generate the code once at boot? < 1338086899 758917 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1338086907 645914 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, other MDude isn't timing out. < 1338086920 29947 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 NICK :MDuck < 1338086926 244877 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1338086929 823212 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg nickserv ghost MDude < 1338086963 734901 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the userspace code immediately surrounding the call into ring 0 is basically kernel implementation details < 1338086971 248372 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense to let that change with the kernel, not with libc < 1338086979 98700 :MDuck!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone else registered MDude sometime before I showed up, I was just using the nick because I use it elsewhere. < 1338086993 214624 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto the implementation of gettimeofday etc, which read kernel data structures < 1338086994 542424 :MDuck!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be that whoever actually registered it showed up. < 1338087001 683389 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: libc is already really closely coupled with the kernel. < 1338087018 78647 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a nicer option than making the locations and layouts of those "internal" data structures part of the stable ABI < 1338087024 544340 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not to this degree, I think < 1338087032 976037 :MDuck!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless he just joined right before elliott notes that something uses ptrace. < 1338087040 219455 :MDuck!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*noted < 1338087070 191694 :MDuck!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey look he disconnected while I wasn't paying attention. < 1338087074 145797 :MDuck!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 NICK :MDude < 1338087074 422300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDuck: You can check by NS INFO and WHOIS commands, some information about someone else with that nickname < 1338087101 816189 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to remember. < 1338087107 387732 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the VDSO makes particular sense for SYSENTER < 1338087158 578225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when userspace invokes the SYSENTER instruction, the CPU jumps to kernel code in ring 0 without saving the userspace instruction pointer (or code segment) < 1338087161 151420 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Right, because the address has to be known. < 1338087172 619111 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But then the VDSO can't be randomized anymore, can it?) < 1338087175 823308 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that practically a) you should have only one SYSENTER instruction in all of userspace, and b) the kernel needs to know where it is < 1338087176 148894 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, I guess it can.) < 1338087188 390977 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was just thinking about that, but I worked it out < 1338087197 618631 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the kernel knows where the VDSO is mapped in each process's spacj < 1338087199 587175 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :space* < 1338087200 299332 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338087207 511632 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence my second line. :-) < 1338087212 509523 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's [vsyscall], then? < 1338087230 175941 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas, if the SYSENTER instruction were in vanilla libc code, there would have to be an extra mechanism for telling the kernel where it is < 1338087244 276982 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like Linux is averse to such mechanisms (*cough* set_robust_list(2) *cough*) < 1338087255 485899 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No manual entry for set_robust_list < 1338087268 401998 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lwn.net/Articles/172149/ < 1338087268 637399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that in Haskell, you can make up the Kleisli category for Set to be an instance of Category, even though Set cannot be an instance of Monad? < 1338087298 976311 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No. How can you do that? < 1338087304 592822 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: [vsyscall] is the old non-randomized VDSO-like thing < 1338087349 484855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://sprunge.us/CDAB < 1338087465 376898 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're using an existential type? < 1338087468 951001 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems kind of od.d < 1338087507 699007 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: these days it contains only short sequences like "mov $0x60, %rax; syscall; ret" < 1338087537 263805 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a compatibility layer only, which goes through the slow "real" syscall path < 1338087537 762574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, it does work. < 1338087576 833538 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, I can use this for the debugger thing, then. < 1338087585 286736 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that's true! < 1338087586 952579 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even randomized so it's much nicer. < 1338087594 337027 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a process *could* still unmap it. < 1338087606 534409 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it should work for any "reasonable" program. < 1338087638 472768 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is dumping [vdso]/[vsyscall] such a hassle. :-( < 1338087648 948812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Where is zzo38 using an existential type there? < 1338087655 733046 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: here's a puzzle: why can you do memcpy(buf, vsyscall, 4096); write(1, buf, 4096); < 1338087662 983866 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338087664 583845 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not write(1, vsyscall, 4096); < 1338087665 648294 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Wait, it's not an existential type. < 1338087675 285409 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Never mind. < 1338087679 830306 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where char *vsyscall = (char*) 0xffffffffff600000) < 1338087683 17669 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I was just wondering about that earlier! < 1338087710 538693 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want the answer? < 1338087774 275061 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The funny part is that the behavior of fwrite() changes depending on whether you printfed some text previously. < 1338087785 929063 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if you do then it copies the page into a buffer, I guess. < 1338087788 539540 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, let me see. < 1338087836 345717 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, nice! < 1338087845 297712 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't think about that < 1338087851 356926 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a strange bug to track down. < 1338087864 913394 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep that one in mind for the devious code contest < 1338087898 854521 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: here is my vdso dumper: https://gist.github.com/2799304 < 1338087916 25002 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unlike vsyscall you don't need an intermediate buffer) < 1338087938 527173 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I parsed /proc/self/maps in C. :-( < 1338087959 68083 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :High-level languages should have easy unsafe-memory-access primitives! < 1338088048 173996 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i love ctypes! < 1338088057 96081 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at my python vdso dumper < 1338088067 46755 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafe memory access is pretty easy in Haskell, too < 1338088097 2598 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I saw. < 1338088305 213440 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, so it's not just because it's a high address. < 1338088504 487718 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not? < 1338088520 448481 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I just forgot to pass MAP_FIXED to mmap. < 1338088611 556063 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the reason (aiui) is that the kernel checks the pointer argument to 'write' to make sure it's below the user/kernel cutoff < 1338088627 153868 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the generic code which does that doesn't know that userspace is allowed to read this one high-mapped page < 1338088634 495377 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the page tables do know that, so memcpy works fine < 1338088671 219060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's gross < 1338088679 612821 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just used while (ptr < end) putchar(*ptr); < 1338088726 451728 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ptr++ < 1338088727 744644 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever. < 1338088755 161243 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah < 1338088770 308014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should fix said generic code < 1338088779 625718 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more generally, it's gross that the kernel has to duplicate the page table's knowledge about what userspace is allowed to read < 1338088789 710630 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But the performance penalty! < 1338088792 444173 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though linux only does this at a coarse level < 1338088795 59874 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's not as if it actually matters. < 1338088800 845747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't care if it slows the system down by half < 1338088803 145341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gross < 1338088811 747217 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you pass a faulting userspace address to write(), that does indeed trigger a pagefault in ring 0 code < 1338088818 546495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does it really "have" to do that < 1338088856 392174 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the pagefault handler knows that faults on certain kernel instructions should translate to "set this flag" rather than "kill the process and BUG the fuck out" < 1338088915 462941 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixing access_ok to know about vsyscall is dumb because nobody actually cares and because making that code more complicated will harm security < 1338088924 134510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i care < 1338088928 570929 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the performance wankers would all switch over to ____do_real_access_ok() < 1338088938 699191 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there would be a bug in that < 1338088940 683171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's literally a trivial change to the point of not harming security < 1338088948 30650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's one single page on one platform < 1338088965 720819 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But no one cares. < 1338088966 110396 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should fork linux on github < 1338088968 497104 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make this one change < 1338088977 254258 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And submit a pull request via GitHub! < 1338088984 10023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and post stupid meme images in it < 1338088988 205826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and post it to proggit and hn < 1338088993 355854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wait for people to flame linux for being so behind-the-times < 1338088995 456984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1338088996 557307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*linus < 1338088997 320845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing < 1338089010 804049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i might send a patch to lkml < 1338089012 803908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1338089027 267548 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dec eax; mov eax, 0x60; syscall; ret" < 1338089032 977587 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that dec eax for? < 1338089041 187946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it decreases eax by one < 1338089042 315507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this help < 1338089042 797304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1338089045 358493 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You already know the response to the patch will be "no one cares". < 1338089048 351811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe for 64-bit stuff < 1338089058 932031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe linus will see it and merge it < 1338089062 336337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know! < 1338089064 158525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do they need to decrement eax register there? < 1338089070 19865 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe elliott is right. < 1338089076 777556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't decrement do stuff to the higher part of rax there < 1338089079 76772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1338089080 364711 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have anything to do with the flags for zero condition and so on? < 1338089080 930400 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be that that zeros the upper half of the register or something? < 1338089098 196995 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that rax/eax /= eax/ax in that respect. < 1338089101 577028 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why i don't like assembly language < 1338089132 189616 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff just like that < 1338089190 415848 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in 64 bit writing to eax zeroes the higher bits < 1338089204 256382 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1338089207 403713 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why the dec? < 1338089219 21552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to zero the higher bits < 1338089239 71283 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mov also zeroes them < 1338089242 644748 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mov eax, 0x60 do that < 1338089249 840351 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what he said < 1338089251 469062 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want an x86 assembly REPL. :-( < 1338089259 323817 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's repl < 1338089260 538440 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: where did you find that code < 1338089264 501770 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to give it an abbot and costello sense of confusion) < 1338089267 376153 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: In [vsyscall]. < 1338089276 495225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm mine doesn't have < 1338089287 843766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is the DOS DEBUG good enough? Maybe not as it is not a proper REPL < 1338089289 544457 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1338089291 358718 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. < 1338089299 588136 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You can probably guess what went wrong. :-) < 1338089304 85615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: Repeat enter p-list. It's an x86 instruction. < 1338089305 814313 :cmapernet!~cmiranda@181.28.156.27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338089314 389739 :cmapernet!~cmiranda@181.28.156.27 PART :#esoteric < 1338089315 806264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What went wrong? < 1338089316 897736 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wrong disassembly mode? < 1338089318 559769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By cmapernet < 1338089320 745086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*e . < 1338089321 316660 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1338089324 401443 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, dec eax = 48 < 1338089336 371497 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is the 64-bit register prefix. < 1338089344 450672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1338089346 73886 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something along those lines. < 1338089356 631316 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want an x86 REPL. < 1338089399 348046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1338089404 891349 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How's your libcless server going? < 1338089425 539562 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1338089442 109666 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did it do? < 1338089477 155653 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff < 1338089479 601658 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day i will share it < 1338089492 489679 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's even more pointlessly "look at how hardcore i am" than most of the stuff i share < 1338089504 393101 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping for it to be a sort of easter egg in another thing < 1338089506 852234 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that didn't work out < 1338089512 156616 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now I know why I had to use mmap2() instead of mmap(). < 1338089539 316092 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exciting linux history lesson" < 1338089578 444556 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you using mmap for? < 1338089591 283761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: by the way there is a text form of CC0 < 1338089599 936027 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338089601 620275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode.txt < 1338089602 684660 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Allocating memory. < 1338089620 2944 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In a debugged process, from the debugger.) < 1338089625 864026 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So I used the syscall number.) < 1338089626 59259 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1338089629 695247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably in case public domain doesn't work in some country < 1338089630 334279 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1338089636 77062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also you forgot to waive warranty, see http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC0_FAQ#May_I_apply_CC0_to_computer_software.3F_If_so.2C_is_there_a_recommended_implementation.3F < 1338089636 349474 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, that is why CC0 exists < 1338089638 915163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is re autoharden) < 1338089644 322960 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1338089647 229585 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that was already in there < 1338089668 358971 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i checked < 1338089694 432047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does CC0 waive contract rights related to copyright? < 1338089700 807742 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Affirmer offers the Work as-is and makes no epresentations or warranties of any kind concerning the Work, express, implied, statutory or otherwise, including without limitation warranties of title, merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, blah blah blah blah blah" < 1338089703 596205 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up autoharden. < 1338089712 772602 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, a new MIUAF post. < 1338089720 759471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think the point is to make the warranty disclaimer visible < 1338089725 80727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than at the bottom of a huge license < 1338089727 205795 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1338089728 812389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it might not hold up < 1338089731 959692 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338089732 664436 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1338089739 233026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS WHY YOU WRITE IT ALL IN CAPITALS < 1338089742 381779 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate the whole "every source file must start with 3 paragraphs of boilerplate" thing < 1338089745 273562 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't do it < 1338089750 463481 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc++ # not doing it < 1338089750 655107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, don't bother adding it to a source file < 1338089752 487495 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess one day oracle will sue me for all my meager savings < 1338089757 703280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put the boilerplate text in LICENSE < 1338089764 801654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and download CC0 to CC0.txt or something < 1338089768 991657 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338089772 108146 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a bad idea < 1338089779 599320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't add things to source files either < 1338089780 337367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate that < 1338089786 778413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a court ever rules it's required i'll give up programming < 1338089796 675179 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Didn't you already give up programming? < 1338089797 301628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or switch to writing proprietary software < 1338089800 25361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: true < 1338089812 799297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, you might be in a contract to make something you own the copyright to belonging to them instead. But that would be impossible with public domain. < 1338089814 818566 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should add a thing to autoconf where it asks you to accept a license. < 1338089820 830994 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a court ever rules it's required i will personally teabag everyone in the courtroom < 1338089827 194125 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"checking if user agrees to the license... yes" < 1338089831 516613 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it makes you scroll all the way down to the bottom before giving you "yes/no" options. < 1338089839 718291 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: or you can start coding underground < 1338089844 462113 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if the license is GPLv2 every time. < 1338089851 755210 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like itidus21's idea < 1338089862 640665 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you release software anonymously then nobody can come after you for warranty < 1338089869 966725 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can cultivate a mysterious cult of personality < 1338089882 160287 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh uh.. yeah that was exactly my idea < 1338089895 441360 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks around shiftily < 1338089923 877795 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :types text into irc < 1338089965 621242 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :provides self-referential description of activity < 1338090006 853803 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"provides self-referential description of activity when typed in irc" < 1338090013 549625 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION breaks the 5th wall. < 1338090019 547968 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one doesn't even work. < 1338090031 993711 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :minding the gap since 1996 < 1338090035 713845 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why isn't this server crashing. :-( < 1338090035 903817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does CC0 deal with this problem of contracts at all? < 1338090055 9290 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I got the mysterious crash a second time, but the HTTP request was completely boring. < 1338090069 745071 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: first you must realize, there is no server < 1338090071 63619 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I enabled core dumps (I think) and am stracing everything rather than just network. < 1338090142 472612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: mosh is too many files. Can you make it one file instead? < 1338090153 718174 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1338090160 26311 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I recommend sqlite.c < 1338090160 950518 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here you go: http://git.io/o_7nKw < 1338090168 924603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a text file. < 1338090176 627689 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is in codepage 437! < 1338090179 293473 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just pass it to base64. < 1338090183 837 :TheJimmyJames!~TheJimmyJ@124.240.120.61 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338090188 99666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cries < 1338090192 782179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a C file < 1338090199 240767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a UTF-8 C file < 1338090211 217279 :TheJimmyJames!~TheJimmyJ@124.240.120.61 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338090227 103238 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a contract be able to force you to retract a liscense that gives no conditions under which it may be retracted? I would think that wouldn't make sense. < 1338090228 695208 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C Big Endian < 1338090230 277445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome TheJimmyJames < 1338090233 774564 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :TheJimmyJames: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338090241 220923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://github.com/keithw/mosh/issues/120 +1 +1 +1 < 1338090272 448170 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> x +1 +1 +1 < 1338090272 980723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3 +) < 1338090277 99169 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thambdabot < 1338090304 354923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: another mosh question for you!!! < 1338090310 24200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the mosh client build on Windows? < 1338090327 347222 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google mosh windows < 1338090328 769859 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2011/01/05/are-mosh-and-jupiter-windows-8s-killer-features/ < 1338090328 971013 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Are ‘Mosh’ and ‘Jupiter’ Windows 8′s killer features? - The Next Web < 1338090332 316944 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh: Windows 8's killer feature < 1338090371 395360 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The current Mosh 1.2 release candidate officially supports building from source on Cygwin. Please try it and report back with any problems." - kmcallister "kmc" mckmc < 1338090398 183892 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol lambdabot.. you have really outdone yourself < 1338090423 809166 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :«According to Paul, Mosh is a “new tile-based user interface.”» < 1338090503 623085 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google according to paul < 1338090506 98223 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ibiblio.org/freebiblecommentary/pdf/EN/VOL05.pdf < 1338090528 12175 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thfornothingambdabot < 1338090536 991540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Cygwin doesn't count. < 1338090549 426066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does MinGW count? < 1338090556 246436 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"immersive apps" wat < 1338090558 414229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338090590 471603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love immersive apps < 1338090595 417560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm immersed in an app < 1338090599 162683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :constantly < 1338090627 979891 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that's like 1½ years old < 1338090668 594112 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh i was getting mosh confused with mush < 1338090673 696051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks kmc. < 1338090683 299762 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CGI is such a mess. < 1338090688 307645 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably, the so called mosh and jupiter stuff are metro < 1338090690 721414 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ih8u cgi :'(" < 1338090696 339335 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and winrt < 1338090705 842016 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also programs that are written in C are such a mess. < 1338090729 667728 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1338090730 91119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does CWEB make it better? < 1338090730 942272 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Badly, that is. < 1338090756 12490 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a quality that decides between success and failure" -- Edsger W. Dijkstra < 1338090759 200497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what is wrong with CGI? < 1338090764 923007 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, as much as this is the kind of thing i *want* to be true < 1338090766 605760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thkmc. < 1338090772 731024 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really believe it is < 1338090785 45612 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you read "decides" to mean "has some small influence" < 1338090789 920685 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but if you want to write cpu efficient code then C++ is practically the only way < 1338090794 847045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1338090802 306214 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or define "success" to be "producing an elegant system" < 1338090812 523826 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1338090813 635034 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: um,,,,,asm!!!! < 1338090814 317249 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to write CPU efficient code, there is assembly language. But that is only for the specific CPU. < 1338090820 573480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not helping!!!! < 1338090822 108994 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: "gotta get close to that hard ware" < 1338090830 12 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For working with many computers, you use C or LLVM. < 1338090834 470458 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardware is within 2 feet < 1338090837 799377 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Overoptimizing for elegance often has an influence in the opposite direction. :-) < 1338090839 546151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :responding to messages that take a message referring to C and then refer to C++ in response considered "dumb" < 1338090841 569629 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardware is within 1 inch < 1338090845 738292 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardware is within 1 um < 1338090851 821997 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :things I dislike about Haskell: rewriting code into the IO monad is annoying < 1338090856 96528 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the u is a mu i just cant type mus < 1338090860 855758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: don't do that < 1338090866 415626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually) < 1338090872 324724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: How do you mean? < 1338090896 710724 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: most programs don't need maximum CPU efficiency < 1338090907 686798 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even the ones that do, they need it only in a small fraction of the code < 1338090915 934781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you really going to start a serious argument in reply to that statement < 1338090921 161957 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338090922 708828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really #esoteric < 1338090923 479037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1338090923 675329 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1338090934 125800 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was my argument not serious :'( < 1338090935 57944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i accept yr apology < 1338090940 172983 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am, for my own personal amusement, writing an IRC bot framework. The obvious way is have a String -> String function that runs the bot, and internal modules in the State monad. < 1338090949 516325 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't be efficient without templates! < 1338090954 39102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that's the wrong way, fwiw < 1338090957 999390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: TeX: The Program does describe some things needing much efficiently in the "inner loop" < 1338090958 557400 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: um,,,,,,asm doesn't have tempalte!!!!! < 1338090959 843448 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :qed < 1338090960 477009 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: is it cpu efficient < 1338090963 516481 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/adbrr/onqy/ < 1338090964 495477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a start you're depending on lazy io off the bat which is probably not a good idea < 1338090968 394334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1338090968 963604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/e < 1338090974 133412 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, of course, the modules cannot do IO themselves < 1338090980 61399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338090985 473260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you designed wrong < 1338090988 468646 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: templates are far from the hardware and slow!!! ! < 1338091006 299688 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik asm is barely faster on out of order architectures < 1338091007 10413 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Then why does C++ have them? < 1338091008 611076 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHECKMATE < 1338091012 721356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use (StateT s IO) monad if you will do IO too < 1338091013 272248 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're doing SIMD < 1338091018 331931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(This is analogous to screen, in which C-a a sends a literal C-a. The reason this is a good idea is so sending the escape character through a stack of n moshes or screens doesn’t take 2^n keystrokes.)" < 1338091022 469445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: now you have n problems < 1338091023 790349 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuffing them inside StateT foo IO is the correct way to make them able to do IO < 1338091033 480973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: for certain values of correct, sure < 1338091038 817975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :StateT foo IO is often a bad idea < 1338091040 791751 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what do you suggest? < 1338091043 970665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends < 1338091048 744351 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: im checkmate :[ < 1338091051 744406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't model a bot as String -> String in the first place < 1338091055 380481 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::[ < 1338091061 911784 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, but an IRC conversation is. < 1338091062 335574 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~c++ enlighten me~ < 1338091063 716595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or String -> IO String (<-- this wouldn't work at all actually) < 1338091067 390905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i disagree < 1338091078 790173 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: larrytheliquid wrote an IRC bot in Agda!!!!!! < 1338091088 307571 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/wrote/modeled/ < 1338091090 259478 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true, string -> string ignroes timing, for one thing. < 1338091092 808019 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/modeled/sort of modeled/ < 1338091095 587586 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ignores < 1338091099 324399 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: You take advantage of laziness. < 1338091103 558530 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also interact < 1338091115 138960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338091118 403771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not laziness < 1338091119 576759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's lazy IO < 1338091123 277155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is completely separate from laziness < 1338091124 588077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a Bad Idea < 1338091134 294918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for anything other than toy programs, at least) < 1338091144 773767 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it a Bad Idea? < 1338091149 453625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :various reasons < 1338091152 150308 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm unfortunately too going to bed to talk about bots now. < 1338091157 351198 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 NICK :MSleep < 1338091163 316552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has some semantic iffiness < 1338091168 807304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more practically < 1338091174 85252 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay it's just like i'm back in #haskell < 1338091174 684143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it destroys more or less any hope of reasonable resource management < 1338091185 922374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's my present for your apology < 1338091257 192663 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338091263 675191 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems reasonable < 1338091284 289249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because you never know when the resources get cleaned up) < 1338091290 235062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because it's tied to when a certain piece of pure data is evaluated) < 1338091294 495524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is fun fun fun) < 1338091305 362358 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: shachaf: i think that the most efficient way to code is to magically never have to refer back to previously written code. in addition it should all be written in shorthand. < 1338091317 251080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the reason StateT foo IO is often a bad idea is because it works just as well to use MVars/TVars inside IO < 1338091326 819691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is required if you, e.g. ever want any kind of concurrency < 1338091329 281012 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: use 1 letter variable names so the computer can read them faster < 1338091335 963145 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Except you have to pass the MVars around!!!!!! < 1338091342 43827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ReaderT (MVar foo) IO!!!!! < 1338091346 781604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler is: sometimes passing them around is easier < 1338091360 664604 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReaderT (hi monqy) IO < 1338091368 310350 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The monqy.Reader < 1338091373 243655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: anyway i would probably model an irc bot as Conduit IRCMessage IO IRCMessage or something but ha ha it is probably not best to learn conduits right now < 1338091378 680916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or enumerators or pipes or w / e) < 1338091383 690555 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (compare `on` take 3) "monqy" "monad" < 1338091384 689120 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : EQ < 1338091387 909606 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coïncidence? < 1338091402 774660 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only assume that new iteratee libraries have been invented at a rate of roughly one per day since i stopped paying attention < 1338091413 310156 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the tubulon iteratoolios are the best < 1338091427 4070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were around for conduits and pipes kmc < 1338091456 17032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: anyway\ < 1338091456 507607 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :loud pipes save lives < 1338091465 393779 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1338091465 641261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any hope of the mosh client compiling for windows without cygwin < 1338091467 231039 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i'm serious of course. a preference for elegance isn't a personality flaw, but just a mathematical problem waiting to be analyzed. < 1338091467 502082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever < 1338091468 983003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\\$// < 1338091477 369426 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if someone who knows and cares about windows makes it happen, sure < 1338091487 500527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: great! i am neither of these things < 1338091491 277916 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of the current core mosh developers know windows or care about windows or like windows < 1338091494 944826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rephrase: how many posix calls does mosh use < 1338091502 794594 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're happy to take patches though < 1338091505 279614 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a fair number < 1338091509 285537 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows is POSIX! < 1338091539 826360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the subtext is: i wish there was like a putty fork with mosh support so it was more useful to me < 1338091558 208572 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coding should be done in such a way that simply don't have to look back on code which has been written, ever. < 1338091561 30306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't really subtext < 1338091566 188164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like "the real thing is:" < 1338091578 212799 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: ……… < 1338091597 607905 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how much do you actually code in Haskell? < 1338091608 89794 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott uses Windows? < 1338091611 373125 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338091643 629759 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, so, working on Human 2.0 to try to make that possible? < 1338091661 132124 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write once, read never! < 1338091688 792200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no < 1338091698 177162 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, suppose that there's a bug... < 1338091707 78179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: 99% of the new programs i write are haskell < 1338091712 42241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i don't program much right now < 1338091714 9749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i program lots < 1338091714 469176 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1338091718 389016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i don't program much at all < 1338091724 612139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when i do it's usually patching someone else's code or haskell < 1338091729 500746 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1338091730 351867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i toy about in haskell a bit < 1338091736 594170 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well.. < 1338091738 109995 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep wondering how you retain all this stuff < 1338091738 956098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have also answered a lot of haskell questions on stack overflow :p < 1338091755 41971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it's been like... 3, 4 years since i started programming haskell < 1338091769 429629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also i used to hang out in #haskell a lot (but i don't recommend doing this any more) < 1338091804 165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell is interesting now if you can answer all the newbie questions that come up quickly, identify and ignore terrible stuff, and like talking to people who know haskell a lot, but not so much if you're not already experienced < 1338091825 743161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that is what they do? < 1338091841 177203 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my problem is that (like everyone else) i want to explain things *my* way < 1338091849 238222 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i got sick of fighting about which explanation is best < 1338091849 946423 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually, Conduit doesn't look so bad < 1338091857 924738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question of how to make (IO x) into (x) is very common by people who do not understand Haskell < 1338091865 848462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes. (conduit is wrong in several respects) < 1338091868 189796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but other libraries are wrong too) < 1338091888 185755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the main reason not to learn conduit now is because there are like 4 libraries for doing roughly the same thing right now) < 1338091908 455404 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338092180 490251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know of a server that just does ssh authentication but isn't tied to unix users < 1338092189 614733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and instead of starting a shell just starts a command with the info it got or such < 1338092197 751048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has a separate user/password/pubkey database < 1338092263 317700 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The question of whether Machines Can Think... is about as relevant as the question of whether Submarines Can Swim." ~ Edsger W. Dijkstra < 1338092319 459392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does seem a similar kind of question < 1338092364 756532 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh this one more edgy < 1338092392 759122 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't blame me for the fact that competent programming, as I view it as an intellectual possibility, will be too difficult for "the average programmer" you must not fall into the trap of rejecting a surgical technique because it is beyond the capabilities of the barber in his shop around the corner." ~ Edsger W. Dijkstra < 1338092397 207992 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: unless you suggest me a good library to use ima go do something stupid < 1338092414 415472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun < 1338092427 757303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great thing about stupid things in haskell is that they break :P < 1338092438 923749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you should model the bot as String -> String and use unsafePerformIO internally!!! < 1338092451 592371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many exclamation marks do i need to convey sarcasm!!!!!!! < 1338092482 155788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1338092511 108033 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, but the question about the breakage is where they break < 1338092512 716504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many < 1338092523 358738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1338092543 986689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now added support for timers and time limits to Internet Quiz Engine. < 1338092550 958216 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, do they break before or after I am done with them < 1338092679 1925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before usually < 1338092887 261506 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1338092895 164831 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean specifically when will I encounter that :) < 1338092906 443038 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why do you recommend against conduit, then? < 1338092971 589140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like "abstract nonsense"? < 1338092999 270243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use conduit < 1338093005 448813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wouldn't learn it at the stage I imagine you're at < 1338093028 78916 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338093033 949233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Internet Quiz Engine? < 1338093087 456178 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1338093105 639409 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm slightly more advanced than you seem to think. < 1338093113 649745 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it really does not look all that hard. < 1338093118 943497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't that hard < 1338093128 711016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would still not recommend learning it < 1338093137 200230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especialyl since you'll need to use supporting libraries to pull off an irc bot effectively with it < 1338093141 490127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*especially < 1338093162 641504 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can your question be modelled in lambda calculus? < 1338093163 777127 :TheJimmyJames!~TheJimmyJ@124.240.120.61 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1338093180 29318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Probably not. < 1338093203 908746 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i either say yes or no or nothing < 1338093246 883740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is TheJimmyJames? < 1338093306 399924 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do you like Internet Quiz Engine? Yes" becomes "You like Internet Quiz engine."; "Do you like Internet Quiz Engine? No" becomes "You don't like Internet Quiz engine."; "Do you like Internet Quiz Engine?" remains "Do you like Internet Quiz Engine?" < 1338093313 302525 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously im insane < 1338093374 298220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338093375 130023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously most people in this channel (myself included) are somewhat insane < 1338093382 591117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338093434 508670 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what sort of supporting libraries? Now that I look, the obvious thing seems to connect TCP =$= parser =$= bot logic =$= formatter =$= TCP < 1338093448 628490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing the parser will be a pain without e.g. attoparsec-conduit < 1338093451 98094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :formatter will be easier but < 1338093468 288354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already have irc stuff for conduit written but i've been perennially terrible in getting it to hackage < 1338093476 565298 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What do you think of O_DIRECT? < 1338093493 240987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what about it < 1338093498 956365 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: therefore it doesn't exist qed < 1338093508 241608 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it the devil. < 1338093519 813976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1338093655 970616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selector strings are quiz.menu*a (type 1) for the Internet Quiz Engine main menu, and textfile/miscellaneous/onlinequiz.txt (type 0) for the comparison chart < 1338093770 409991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you looked at the quiz editor on OkCupid and/or played any quizzes on OkCupid? Internet Quiz Engine actually has many similarities < 1338094226 379337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott_ < 1338094228 514539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Quiz Engine is free and open source software, it is written in C, it has no advertising or other annoyances, supports time limits, has versatile questions/responses/results, no registration is required, supports skipping conditional questions, can upload/download the quiz files, and uses low bandwidth. < 1338094259 193423 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1338094298 866848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of these features do not exist in any of the other programs I have reviewed. < 1338094366 302656 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are like the linux torvalds of quiz engines < 1338094400 220408 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@remember itidus21 you are like the linux torvalds of quiz engines < 1338094400 416989 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know. < 1338094473 905294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean? < 1338094506 980825 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the meaning is largely subjective < 1338094529 549065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Linux is also free and open source software written in C, but is that what you meant? < 1338094545 444144 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should've used `addquote. :-( < 1338094560 911974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Then you use `addquote if that is what you want < 1338094562 972662 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what evs < 1338094572 867905 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1338094575 57844 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just like "linux torvalds" < 1338094577 154452 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> w/e < 1338094578 373174 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : w / e < 1338094583 794302 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> o . o < 1338094584 547559 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a -> b' < 1338094584 745459 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `Simple... < 1338094595 752588 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> f . f < 1338094596 356043 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (f b)) < 1338094596 636263 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `M6020407245... < 1338094637 907791 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao.. i just got that < 1338094747 686705 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote you are like the linux torvalds of quiz engines < 1338094750 812461 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :845) you are like the linux torvalds of quiz engines < 1338094976 122263 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, this is Linux Torvalds, and I pronounce Linus as Linus. < 1338095126 224013 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptic: Try AuNO instead of FeDK! < 1338095157 521267 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/elliptic/elliott/ < 1338095164 644724 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold > iron; norway > denmark; qed < 1338095207 356683 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: alternatively, just hackage your goddamn IRC stuff ;) < 1338095212 509637 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: also wake ais up < 1338095219 553543 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to complain to him < 1338095225 608103 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's auno < 1338095228 679660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The source codes for Internet Quiz Engine is 9KB; I don't know how long the codes of the other programs are since I have not seen them, but I guess most of them are probably longer and less efficient, because they want to add advertising and all sorts of HTML stuff, and some people write bad codes in general, and other reasons < 1338095228 875365 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 wake up < 1338095229 261544 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338095237 352454 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: gold; norway < 1338095246 730336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Periodic Table of Elements on the wall in my bedroom < 1338095258 313887 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok < 1338095259 347114 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is Internet Quiz Engine written in C? < 1338095277 959539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. You can even look at the source-codes if you want to. < 1338095281 372254 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1338095312 205427 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :From quiz.menu*d < 1338095331 546985 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ wget quiz.menu*d < 1338095331 742870 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Word not found < 1338095335 633336 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :--2012-05-26 22:08:48-- http://quiz.menu*d/ < 1338095335 829466 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Resolving quiz.menu*d (quiz.menu*d)... failed: Name or service not known. < 1338095335 829659 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget: unable to resolve host address `quiz.menu*d' < 1338095343 55900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong! < 1338095368 651508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try using this command instead: echo 'quiz.menu*d' | nc zzo38computer.cjb.net 70 > inquiz.w < 1338095381 631683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might need nc -q -1 depending on the version of netcat < 1338095476 854998 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh-oh. < 1338095484 993075 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined behavior when you call inquiz with argc==0 ! < 1338095510 408980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: True, but it is never called that way. < 1338095522 362897 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Untrue! < 1338095526 419850 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just called it that way. < 1338095531 272420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no! < 1338095538 26868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get an error! < 1338095540 626734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a mistake. < 1338095548 783745 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the error calls printf with %s, NULL. < 1338095557 568245 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes. < 1338095585 919104 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. Well, still, it will never be called that way when properly installed. < 1338095785 651480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program is not meant to be run from the command-line; it won't work that way. It should run from a gopher server with the argument specifying the name of the configuration file, and the environment variable SELECTOR containing the selector string. < 1338095801 591500 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SELECTOR=hi < 1338095909 424914 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: just as a good bitmap renderer is best shown off with a landscape photo or a renaissance painting, the proof is in the pudding so to speak < 1338095914 492940 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can, of course, set the SELECTOR using the command-line (you need export as well), but it doesn't really work well that way. Still, if you want to, you can make up a shell script or something else that sets SELECTOR and then formats the choices on the screen for local mode < 1338095931 333014 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quiz engine lives off a diet of good quizzes < 1338095979 478050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: True; currently there are only two files other than the example file, and that is why I ask you to add some if you have anything to add < 1338096055 38013 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a motivated individual i am not < 1338096095 37745 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its easier on my brains than most other topics < 1338096097 996960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Well, when I have some to add, I can add it myself; but usually I have none, so other people can add some instead if they can write some to add. < 1338096191 674040 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the atom of the quiz is a multiple choice question, right? < 1338096203 647797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Yes. < 1338096425 462957 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fictional city of Midgar and Pacman were both inspired by this: a)chocolate b)pasta c)pizza d)mushrooms < 1338096456 687801 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike mushrooms. chocolate,pasta,pizza can be good. < 1338096477 457733 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "gasp" < 1338096485 732027 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it's easy.. and maybe even a little dumb.. but that is the greatest quiz question the world has ever seen < 1338096488 775391 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: gasp < 1338096524 223111 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: what's the answer ? < 1338096548 85193 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll provide pictures! < 1338096554 598160 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e)all of the above < 1338096556 956988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Well, it is a valid question which can be included in a quiz file if you want to, but a single question is not so good. Ask if you don't understand how. < 1338096583 862113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a pizza with a slice cut out? < 1338096600 120035 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heres midgar: http://cdn.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/midgar.jpg < 1338096616 880436 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what about::::::: < 1338096620 77422 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushroom pizza? < 1338096623 793836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Midgar < 1338096631 567238 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ew, mushrooms!!! < 1338096635 173499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: O, yes, pizza can have mushrooms on it too < 1338096635 386799 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why so dark < 1338096636 748260 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you look at the picture then you know it < 1338096651 904248 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like a pasta < 1338096654 195001 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I right ? < 1338096660 288995 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tes < 1338096661 167392 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338096667 196386 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1338096668 770935 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: mushroom pasta?? < 1338096669 338599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What kind of pasta? < 1338096676 328223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338096685 563387 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you like clouds? < 1338096689 752221 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338096693 506620 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW ABOUT: MUSHROOM CLOUDS?? < 1338096697 941907 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1338096709 683427 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've checkmated me!! < 1338096711 999784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Maybe, but what I mean by "What kind of pasta?", like, spaghetti, tortellini, bowtie pasta, short pasta, etc < 1338096726 524184 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Do you like 5-HT agonists? < 1338096726 791276 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs29/f/2008/106/a/4/Mario_Mushroom_Cloud_by_shadowmcr.jpg < 1338096740 827089 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's that < 1338096741 21759 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc does, right? < 1338096744 840884 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Ask kmc. < 1338096746 958933 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly the internet has everything < 1338096759 767643 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't outthink it < 1338096761 40409 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's a 5-ht antagonists < 1338096787 524976 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said agonist not antagonist < 1338096797 336866 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Actually I mean 5-HT_2A agonists. < 1338096799 445526 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's a 5-ht agonists < 1338096808 246584 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's a 5-ht-2a agonists < 1338096853 680134 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it's not a typo cos i remember there was this guy in a chatroom named agonistic < 1338096951 934155 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's agonism < 1338097025 517073 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338097050 358654 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrr: Ask kmc. < 1338097157 213800 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading the bible testament < 1338097159 317087 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a gem < 1338097182 482782 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you sell it, will you get money ? < 1338097189 593799 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear gems do that < 1338097190 120176 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read the bible testament once < 1338097203 324271 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You can sell 5-HT_2A agonists for money. < 1338097206 930594 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's usually illegal. :-( < 1338097212 292150 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1338097220 386774 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know what those are !! < 1338097226 794171 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask kmc. < 1338097232 393338 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do, after i asked kmc < 1338097255 407749 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i didn't ask kmc < 1338097364 600216 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ion 178460 games for hugeterm: 103206x Sebi, 8951x KiloByte, 8081x heteroy, 4165x Johan, 3489x ion < 1338097365 50993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338097375 63584 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ion you are one of the most prolific hugetermers ever. cease your evil. < 1338097375 785695 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338097389 929730 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugeterm < 1338097403 8103 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like a hugepage :'( < 1338097716 470023 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tux Paint was designed in such a way that the user does not need to understand the underlying operating system or how to deal with files. < 1338097769 284485 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338097996 143616 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bwahah < 1338098750 282282 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, have you seen Codelink? It's apparently a free (not sure if as in beer or speech) hollywood hacking game < 1338098767 935293 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338098833 593566 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.. think it's online multiplayer too < 1338098946 777181 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Goonies never say die!" (on the about page) < 1338098956 427022 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that really speaks to the professionalism of the author < 1338098965 918718 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338099009 293473 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joy, ads < 1338099076 783206 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1338099088 31754 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Attempting to access game content from any means other than the Codelink Game itself will result in a server ban for life." < 1338099108 901105 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Only one account can be active per IP address." < 1338099128 147393 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338099160 318638 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't make an account if someone's looking over your shoulders, the password fields don't obscure the password < 1338099170 880580 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338099179 758171 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a good game < 1338099220 182063 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even want to do my typical "crap password" routine, those are still too valuable for me to trust to this place < 1338099236 119227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crapper password < 1338099244 427178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion about minimum wage? < 1338099276 798496 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: do squarelos/robin < 1338099285 487575 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy will be proud < 1338099289 116325 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338099322 174354 :madbrr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1338099353 354121 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am against minimum wage. < 1338099357 629634 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338099815 993426 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why is an email client in the hardware section? < 1338099832 140971 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338099854 188461 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION connects to 0.128.0.1 < 1338099931 803914 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll play with it later < 1338099949 518882 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only tutorial is a video tutorial < 1338100871 595285 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1338101859 634860 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338102152 973273 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338102171 67263 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338102171 449267 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1338102171 449413 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338103641 874719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338104267 152301 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338104429 851676 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338104482 802710 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PatashuXantheres: You should name my branch! < 1338105425 485810 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-56.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338105434 444597 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-146.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338107380 635130 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your branch a branch of < 1338107409 644337 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Crawlliott < 1338107431 296421 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was completely useless, I appreciate it < 1338107442 575136 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you want from me < 1338107483 689708 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliots-crawl < 1338107862 966500 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott's Crawl II: a branch of no name < 1338108137 301816 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-215.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338108151 360946 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-151-56.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338108206 638069 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignoring my previous one < 1338108241 850618 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being Not So Much A Derivative As An Improvement Upon Crawl. < 1338108345 650790 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1338108346 346281 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: not giving up it's time slot do? interpret esolangs? < 1338108606 694126 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl_r6527 < 1338108645 891028 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super Crawl < 1338108746 522291 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338108890 439481 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338108904 929155 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A strange occurance by which one attempts to eat a tomato raw rather than use it in fish burgers < 1338108943 758485 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1338109002 433073 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awfully bitter the tomato < 1338109045 673910 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its amazing how good the sauces made from them taste < 1338109078 147206 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that as "the tornado" < 1338109102 23222 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338109113 100802 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1338109113 291854 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338109114 615470 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no Phantom_Hoover evaporate into sun < 1338109137 523574 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338109208 725588 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338109210 922354 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover < 1338109213 43013 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :evaporate into sun < 1338109228 972399 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit of salt, butter and toast and they're the greatest food ever invented < 1338109236 775331 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, bread? < 1338109252 559116 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomatos(tomatoes) < 1338109262 208964 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know: I know the man who invented tomatoes? < 1338109267 426985 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesser-known monqy fact < 1338109271 697435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's old now, of course < 1338109287 83736 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on their own they're rubbish < 1338109301 732355 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: was it you < 1338109307 37680 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338109307 919095 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im old < 1338109311 181384 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1338109316 957835 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1338109317 364171 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to be! < 1338109326 247445 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means you can wear oldman clothes < 1338109335 263200 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love oldman clothes < 1338109344 50745 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was young i could not wear oldman clothes < 1338109345 672783 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i can < 1338109349 600201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is all the reason i need < 1338109350 818590 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be old < 1338109360 725728 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm < 1338109377 414102 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i need to find visual context to oldman clothes < 1338109386 353298 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off to google < 1338109418 347943 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha 1)cardigans worn with shirts < 1338109443 883996 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very stylish ! < 1338109454 116299 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oldmans have all the luck < 1338109459 593707 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing i am an oldman < 1338109491 856554 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sportscoats < 1338109515 15820 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oldmans luck strikes again < 1338109558 193859 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :linus style polo shirts < 1338109573 559405 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*linux < 1338109621 222397 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if that counts as a subverted trope :-D < 1338109626 169125 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-253-110.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338109628 873081 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-215.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338109655 51948 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338109659 933786 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oldmans are very subversive I'll have you know < 1338109685 808008 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this... http://www.plefka.net/images/GrandpaChair.gif you get to wear all these things on comfy chairs < 1338109705 411534 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get that creepo kid out of my face!! < 1338109708 187060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop looking at me!! < 1338109716 334926 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monqy.*stare < 1338109718 619875 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's you monqy < 1338109723 15730 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's you < 1338109723 884616 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past < 1338109724 959145 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :349) my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup < 1338109725 501850 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :empty eye sockets < 1338109728 297480 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338109729 224443 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong quote < 1338109731 725535 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote many eyes < 1338109735 618264 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :590) Dear god stop staring at me. no never monqy is always staring at everyone. it takes many eyes to do this but I manage He is an inspiration to us all. < 1338109760 29266 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh < 1338109767 663461 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the kids eyes are transparent < 1338109775 766409 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he a ghost < 1338109777 309558 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i a ghost < 1338109778 458761 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past < 1338109781 981255 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338109791 635021 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1338109796 252513 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :designed for display on a white background < 1338109796 443983 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338109801 296107 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no itidus21 < 1338109802 946541 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you "ruined it" < 1338109813 323125 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "ruined" < 1338109843 148276 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent deduction itidus21 ! < 1338109851 989742 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite.. the very idea that they would leave the eyes transparent itself is quite creepy < 1338109863 297410 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im creeped < 1338109885 449871 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could play some kind of fire animation behind them < 1338109899 398150 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creepy < 1338109972 240924 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you should avoid this https://ssl.catalog.com/~pennviewvisuals.biz/store/images/Grandpa%20&%20Bradley.jpg < 1338109981 473680 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im creeped < 1338110023 136565 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ill try and get back to the topic < 1338110041 268211 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338110066 466076 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no don't < 1338110106 890276 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so theres those woolen tops with the boring patterns you get to wear.. the flat-coloured tracksuits, the flanelette shirts < 1338110135 495888 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338110150 555792 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the berets, the slippers < 1338110210 377294 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thick glasses, and a pipe < 1338110246 1141 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i get to wear a toupee, or am I too old for that < 1338110249 824834 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338110252 992818 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does my pipe blow bubbles < 1338110303 545333 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338110332 500731 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1338111384 350187 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8BB1C.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338111884 40142 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1338111990 709954 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338112026 344890 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everybody < 1338112036 418086 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338112096 284001 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott_ < 1338112100 786701 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338112182 940745 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm curios, what do you think about this "Haskell Curry proposed combinatory logic as a logica universalis, but it ran into inconsistency problems.  (I'm trying to use fuzzy-probabilistic truth values to get around that problem, but that's a different topic.)" < 1338112204 788105 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what you mean by it < 1338112228 173201 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is not my statement, somebody else < 1338112232 80665 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the point is that "combinatory logic is tc" then yes sure < 1338112240 932223 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what the fuzzy stuff is about, sounds like nonsense < 1338112267 423118 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, this is my opinion too < 1338112291 950906 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean sure fuzzy logic is a thing, i have no idea how it relates to the consistency of a computational system interpreted as a logic at all though < 1338112336 209101 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo is no connection, are two different formlisms < 1338112379 143109 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are few other things there, http://geniferology.blogspot.com/ < 1338112395 328273 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unification - the calculus of concepts < 1338112441 268962 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, AGI and an aforementioned statement about formal logic that makes no sense < 1338112445 400383 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my quackery meter just exploded < 1338112482 727026 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same feeling here < 1338112509 103836 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pictures are pretty, though! < 1338112557 107075 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably are from some books < 1338112566 112020 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, i mean the software ones < 1338112569 381009 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mWGkAr1Xo5Y/TH3kkjFPUjI/AAAAAAAAAag/O_IrFTLIagA/s1600/dannhyperassociativemap.png like this < 1338112666 580434 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have some software, http://code.google.com/p/genifer/ < 1338112689 31222 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338112704 733634 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/genifer/source/browse/haskell/Genifer.lhs yep, sure is a unification algorithm < 1338112920 605761 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard for me to read haskell now, :) i didn't use it last two years at all < 1338113136 688361 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't separate latex from haskell, :) < 1338113189 686102 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more latex than haskell there :p < 1338113253 55853 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338113254 821221 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-23.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338113261 306582 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-253-110.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338113269 428847 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1338113502 241963 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll show him quackery < 1338113514 516288 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote itidus < 1338113517 256209 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :446) to assume that someone can be described by a rule without exception... is to assume they are omnipotent for instance stones are omnipotent, as they don't do anything, without exception \ 469) monqy: last night in my dreams I saw a false photo album of my childhood... looking ghostly \ 470) itidus20: i saw a dancing cgi skeleton named malaria. i danced and played with him. < 1338113555 962108 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338113587 460718 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 446 < 1338113590 368405 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :446) to assume that someone can be described by a rule without exception... is to assume they are omnipotent for instance stones are omnipotent, as they don't do anything, without exception < 1338113598 643166 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1338113747 334 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338113798 606329 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm right when i say that genifer blog is a nonsense from begining to end? < 1338113862 142238 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: oh im just trying to show that i am a quack. < 1338113891 263122 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am otherwise clueless < 1338113901 300905 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: most of it looks like nonsense to me < 1338113909 479441 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some stuff that makes sense but nothing of particular value < 1338113915 258913 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't lose any sleep over understanding it :p < 1338114023 677395 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this look like a new religion, is annoying < 1338114084 869272 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: probably he has lots of mental problems. < 1338114110 958764 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338114153 708520 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1338114509 147556 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many of the posts says "posted by YKY" .. and this is the profile of YKY http://www.blogger.com/profile/15037419974603456698 < 1338114576 254325 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the leader of the group < 1338114582 231143 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :under his interests is life extension < 1338114590 949864 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia defines life extension as: Life extension science, also known as anti-aging medicine, experimental gerontology, and biomedical gerontology, is the study of slowing down or reversing the processes of aging to extend both the maximum and average lifespan. < 1338114643 845887 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, whats with his ridiculous pic.. who does he think he is :P < 1338114648 194548 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little napoleon, imo < 1338114700 296847 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok NOW look heer :o http://cybernetic1.blogspot.com.au/ < 1338114722 465683 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :posted by YKY "I was locked up in a mental hospital for ~3 weeks, " < 1338114751 781303 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try two years ago to join the group but i give up when somebody said that YKY 'decide everything' < 1338114759 622706 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, he has been in a mental hospital!! < 1338114783 48109 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wander why they release him < 1338114804 943034 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and his interest is extending lifespan < 1338114815 175479 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338114825 269763 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338115368 494727 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1338115370 569678 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i am not typical of this channel at all. and my own journals are a bit off the wall kind of like yky i suppose < 1338115394 355934 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, i can admit i'm odd < 1338115432 497537 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i don't understand the topics of this channel. < 1338115561 575 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm odd too, :) < 1338115575 862294 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1338115584 525231 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Wow, I search for a urxvt problem and get a mosh issue opened by you. < 1338115589 295895 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't think mr yky understands his own topics either. < 1338115610 427716 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you still talking about that silly blog? < 1338115659 148815 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i made the fascinating discovery that the guy who runs it has spent time in a mental hospital < 1338115660 943865 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-23.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338115662 751428 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-88.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338115674 379129 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So have I. < 1338115680 860081 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338115688 134692 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats also fasinctating < 1338115750 510560 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but you didn't make a major simplification in the unification algo published in AIMA, :) < 1338115759 949350 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I could!!!! < 1338115765 807170 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And THEN where would we be? < 1338115811 554130 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that your could make sense, this guy just collect words from some books to impress people < 1338115837 131454 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: i think what he is doing is thinking aloud to himself via a blog.. < 1338115878 843851 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you care? < 1338115913 396473 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people from his group are really nice and have potential but ... < 1338115946 884068 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my friends told me about this < 1338115989 255279 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly i think he is as nuts as me.. < 1338115990 153671 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really care, i ask to be sure that i'm not mad, :) < 1338116019 970646 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you saw some of my absurd rants you would think thats cause for concern < 1338116118 58907 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you show me one i promise i will tell you my opinion, honestly, :) < 1338116151 699614 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : A strange occurance by which one attempts to eat a tomato raw rather than use it in fish burgers awfully bitter the tomato its amazing how good the sauces made from them taste < 1338116185 180779 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i think that the most efficient way to code is to magically never have to refer back to previously written code. in addition it should all be written in shorthand. < 1338116299 231011 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first is difficult to translate for me, i miss some details, but look like a matter of taste, nothing weird, imo < 1338116308 709546 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha... < 1338116367 725768 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's amazing what the imagination will come up with to replace lack of knowledge of a subject < 1338116370 213845 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :second, i'm curios how can be done < 1338116433 607974 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new code, not refering means not reusing, that means reinventing over and over again? < 1338116453 395232 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking bullshit, you see < 1338116469 399800 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::), nice < 1338116484 814880 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is quite often that people say things which are wrong < 1338116508 573919 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i'm doing this too < 1338116552 48909 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i don't understand mathematics and YKY certainly doesn't either < 1338116562 265998 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1338116727 975358 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to know what i know, :) i think most of my life i learn, :) < 1338116981 628825 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338117416 599238 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338117944 227942 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338118030 965661 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Taneb < 1338118378 35873 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338118998 77959 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338119025 150455 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338119289 369977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-145-176.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338119294 810055 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-88.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1338119566 164902 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338119591 262081 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1338119591 262160 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1338119591 262237 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1338119591 262377 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1338119599 240077 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338120082 375576 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installing an old game: < 1338120088 536860 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reccomended disk space: 50 MP < 1338120091 743899 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* MB < 1338120093 62050 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4294966277 MB available < 1338120131 895354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 MB is quite much, too. < 1338120164 149760 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an ambitious 1997 game < 1338120173 598514 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-154-65.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338120178 198788 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-145-176.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338120395 16811 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1997.. < 1338120411 317068 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was before I lived in Australia < 1338120442 459794 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how posting one word with a trailing ellipsis convey drama < 1338120610 177230 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it on this list? http://www.csoon.com/top10097.htm < 1338120632 290617 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No...! < 1338120651 709493 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Games released late in the year will have less votes. " whatever that means < 1338120656 495780 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok! < 1338120777 452912 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338120971 326956 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1338120971 517659 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338121295 387215 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338122303 145080 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338122851 588541 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i bumped into an anarcho-capitalist on reddit < 1338122876 341258 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'oh no' < 1338122897 442083 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is awful < 1338123072 588814 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anarcho-capitalism is the second worst kind of anarchy < 1338123078 873449 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, < 1338123080 176476 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1338123080 595121 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1338123083 811032 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh good < 1338123088 173892 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what's the worst < 1338123096 908457 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anarcho-I'm in charge now < 1338123117 957477 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf. Doctor Horrible's Singalong Blog < 1338123133 385781 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of anarchism have you heard of country named Free Territory? < 1338123142 812762 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not < 1338123149 431605 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338123160 785623 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it where people go to escape uk anti-free speech < 1338123220 485772 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to my high speed wikipedia reading, it was disestablished in 1921 < 1338123260 58020 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by soviet union claiming it was ruled by dictatorship < 1338123291 409693 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Free Territory was only communistic contry that was really communist) < 1338123461 469669 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was anarcho-communistic state that had freedom of speech, press, assembly and unions and real democracy < 1338123832 723481 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /dev/dsp < 1338123835 385792 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/dsp < 1338123855 48302 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp < 1338123857 593893 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp: No such file or directory < 1338123861 956625 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp < 1338123865 30441 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied < 1338123902 290680 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: why are you running bash? < 1338123924 373468 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because bash is better than you. < 1338123968 465872 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is slow and bloated. why don't just use ash? < 1338124056 53961 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338124061 73054 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1338124400 960494 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338124411 573974 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1338124411 765101 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338124812 9192 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338124897 236665 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... getting random reboots. < 1338124901 98857 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea why. < 1338124917 472406 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, is your computer on fire? < 1338124924 236836 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338124930 573521 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got no idea < 1338124942 254116 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's near an open window to a garden, maybe a fly's doing it to mess with me. < 1338124953 404146 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-154-65.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338124957 979661 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-254-190.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338124979 946661 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338125289 954067 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-226.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338125303 56607 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-254-190.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338126613 322406 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.252.78 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1338127147 107042 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338127282 168958 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338127568 953802 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338127927 83697 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338128210 419097 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338128943 476206 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338129134 92079 :AlexeyShentyakov!~alex@94.153.69.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338129239 474116 :AlexeyShentyakov!~alex@94.153.69.198 PART :#esoteric < 1338129276 560912 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338129788 320936 :MDuck!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338129829 575850 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-252.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338129834 991381 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-226.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1338129851 930024 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338130043 257686 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338130574 805668 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1338130591 217816 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338131139 702364 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott I haven’t actually played that many games, i simply did some stat rerolling on a friend’s puny game server whose stats got merged to Sequell later. :-P < 1338131140 268478 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338131207 94564 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338131958 68800 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338132478 517810 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-224.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338132484 723512 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-252.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338134427 55981 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1338134437 984288 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the heap in OS X is executable < 1338134465 650205 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you mprotect it to readonly < 1338134559 273146 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it has to be, exploits would stop working if they changed that < 1338134831 997922 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also, how would you manage state in an IRC bot that way? An IORef? < 1338135126 925927 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338135266 853069 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I am bad at things < 1338135329 846335 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like terribad at things < 1338135589 576747 :Case1!~Dr._Danee@c-66-177-75-63.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338136094 416753 :gotama!~gautama@196-215-73-142.dynamic.isadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1338136220 828555 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338136623 834339 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey nortti, isn't zsh great? < 1338136661 336606 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I have never used. I'll try it out and say what I think about it later < 1338136754 836314 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. seems to be more memory hungy than busybox ash < 1338136794 263082 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like zsh. < 1338136875 48320 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh < 1338136875 716717 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. pretty nice shell but I kinda like busybox ash more. I can sometimes notice little lag with tab completition < 1338136892 363300 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is in fact possible to implement a fully-functioning HTTP server using only shell builtins. < 1338136911 959085 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's barely scratching the surface. < 1338136920 87409 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has something like nc builtin? < 1338136925 868904 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have a man page; it has an index for seventeen seperate man pages. < 1338136983 639982 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some big advantage over ash not counting user friendlines? < 1338137016 665827 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what does 3 in 3:~% prompt mean < 1338137029 433011 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does have the 'zshall' man page, which is a concatenation of the others. < 1338137055 877806 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cheating :P < 1338137065 456963 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, mustn't forget zftp. < 1338137100 64706 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh: command not found: zftp < 1338137127 150576 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; I'm taking certain liberties here, because all this stuff /is/ modularised and has to be loaded first. < 1338137138 909175 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does still come with the shell, though. < 1338137180 599664 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: do you know what 3 mean in 3:~% prompt < 1338137210 279107 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, seeing as nobody using zsh uses that prompt. < 1338137217 744024 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to run the configuration to get a zshrc! < 1338137237 272755 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I run it? < 1338137244 968897 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You haven't tab-completed until you've tab-completed with spelling correction and keyboard-navigable menus. < 1338137278 436501 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember; try zconfigure and obvious abbreviations < 1338137330 3853 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zc ^I lists zcat zcip zcompile < 1338137376 62394 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*zc^I < 1338137426 815271 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. I kinda dislike zsh's tab completition < 1338137479 711830 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok shell and at least better than bash but I prefer ash < 1338137659 241773 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rand it above ksh but just below busybox ash < 1338137678 359002 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love being able to type /u/s/d/zsh/RE and have that completed to /usr/share/doc/zsh-beta/README. < 1338137731 277252 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Did you try oh-my-zsh? < 1338137738 833511 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: no < 1338137910 762527 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338137912 773458 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1338137912 964914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338138052 374633 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is kinda like tcsh for me. I could probably learn to love it but for now it feels strange < 1338139017 23471 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338139515 141629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338139586 670047 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338140533 567357 :gotama!~gautama@196-215-73-142.dynamic.isadsl.co.za QUIT :Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ < 1338140616 855347 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... how do you handle interrupts in Forth? < 1338140646 913168 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of interrupts? < 1338140670 972073 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that something you only do in dos programs? < 1338140680 413974 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, hardware interrupts? < 1338140690 714435 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, I'm targeting a 6802 here... < 1338140696 197466 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what are you programming? < 1338140699 326714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you just write pointers to the interrupt vector < 1338140699 894758 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338140703 771484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same way as you do in any other language < 1338140708 30399 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1338140708 571077 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 17h 51m 2s ago: glogbot's stupid timezone is UTC < 1338140708 762978 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_ asked 12h 37m 53s ago: wake up < 1338140716 527389 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, good point < 1338140718 692603 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorpal: You're lucky you're not writing assembly then :D < 1338140728 987919 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, well I might need some < 1338140758 367342 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott said 17h 51m 2s ago: glogbot's stupid timezone is UTC <-- hm? UTC doesn't sound stupid to me < 1338140777 891504 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: what are you programming? <-- what do you mean? < 1338140780 49116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is any problem to handle interrupts in Forth < 1338140788 493767 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm I'm trying to figure out this Forth implementation < 1338140789 721156 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what kind of program < 1338140798 151123 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means I'm not coding anything specific just yet < 1338140839 493415 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there is no standardised way. you can write to memory locations with ! < 1338140842 972630 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1338140844 577359 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1338140847 738776 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1338140874 100514 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, well yeah < 1338140880 13189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1338140883 438372 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rude < 1338140884 63199 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:45:58: elliott said 17h 51m 2s ago: glogbot's stupid timezone is UTC <-- hm? UTC doesn't sound stupid to me < 1338140887 324786 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the one who called it stupid < 1338140903 736188 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1338140905 436656 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather < 1338140906 122090 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais is < 1338140907 340599 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :|evilliopttic_PA, uh? < 1338140907 531512 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:53:50: 00:51 that'll be UTC not glogbot-stupid-timezone < 1338140909 947226 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338140916 568009 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :|evilliopttic_PA: what is with that nick < 1338140927 266356 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blended with a bunch of good crawl players < 1338140934 116386 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm 100% abomination < 1338140934 843926 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is annoying to type |. That involves altgr < 1338140971 859257 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(altgr-<, where < is to the left of z) < 1338140987 426475 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift + key left of 1 on my kb < 1338141001 611744 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ is worse (altgr + key left of 1) < 1338141013 463070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338141015 773067 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick \evilliopttic_PA < 1338141022 99623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well I'm awake now < 1338141023 582981 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, shift-(key left of 1) gives me ½. That key in question without shift gives me § < 1338141024 34352 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: what kind of keybord do you have? < 1338141032 598252 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm not < 1338141035 519525 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canadian french < 1338141039 454356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this keyboard doesn't have a key to the left of 1 < 1338141040 540433 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, \ is altgr-+ where + is right of 0 < 1338141044 688261 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr, Swedish keyboard here < 1338141055 765289 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm altgr-§ is ¶ < 1338141061 55220 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know that < 1338141070 474901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: many Americans don't realise what altgr is for at all < 1338141073 845446 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have finnish keybord wich is exactly the same as swedish < 1338141079 977976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they don't have enough characters in their alphabets for it to be necessary < 1338141080 843502 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338141084 490291 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: yeah classic :D < 1338141110 535886 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: that's because they have a messed up way to write all the extra vowels over 5 :D < 1338141122 97204 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard Finnish qwerty keyboard doesn't have any alphabets behind altgr-combo either < 1338141128 248008 :Kray!~kray@217.24.101.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, letters < 1338141131 402639 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, for me it is only required to type stuff NOT in Swedish, like \ £ @ $ { [ ] } ~ and so on < 1338141159 496939 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ~ is altgr- and then a space < 1338141166 582716 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead keys are annoying < 1338141176 998691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much the same in the UK, the only keys with an altgr marked on them are | (not |, although I think they produce the same character on Linux) and € < 1338141183 926956 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ and ` have to be done with dead key + space here < 1338141188 579965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a ¬ but it's shift-` < 1338141202 21392 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, "| (not |" <-- to me those look the same < 1338141213 933436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think they're the same position in Unicode, on Linux < 1338141217 492337 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm altgr-e is € < 1338141218 144585 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to type ~ with dead key+space < 1338141223 840939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they generate different characters on Windows, and on DOS < 1338141230 368232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although different different characters on the two OSes < 1338141236 727115 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: altgr + ; here < 1338141237 763439 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so which one is the one with the hole in the middle? < 1338141240 95959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Standard Finnish" is nowadays the new SFS 5966 "multilingual" one, and it does have letters behind altgr; though not letters used in Finnish, exactly. < 1338141241 652518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, altgr-e is e < 1338141244 632879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the same letter? < 1338141257 267004 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make it send 'е' instead. < 1338141259 866047 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, as far as I can tell, without using a hex editor on my IRC log files < 1338141260 136029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look the same < 1338141273 132448 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: I have it as altgr+key two keys right of p < 1338141299 769498 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need altgr on us keyboard to type §¶µ I think < 1338141304 436143 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how does it differ from the Swedish layout (for the non-altgr parts I mean) < 1338141308 152212 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dude, I can send «» with AltGr-[]! < 1338141311 319756 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these symbols are kinda rare < 1338141319 106106 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using the Compose key all this time! < 1338141328 983157 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have [ as altgr+8 < 1338141331 102087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ od -t x 1 < 1338141331 293377 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Word not found < 1338141331 485888 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :§§§§ < 1338141332 569101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, altgr-e is e < 1338141334 103933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 68 6d 6d 2c 20 61 6c 74 67 72 2d 65 20 69 73 20 65 < 1338141336 31935 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I can do that with altgr-shift-8 and altgr-shift-9 < 1338141341 96522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: looks like they are both actual ASCII e's < 1338141341 287697 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: your bot prefix is not ideal... < 1338141349 319415 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, heh < 1338141353 382502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It doesn't. It only has altgry stuff for Sámi and whatever. < 1338141358 958754 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :|evilliopttic_PA: suggest something bettet < 1338141360 254286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently, letters do actually pluralise with apostrophe-s in English, which must annoy pedants a lot) < 1338141362 275444 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1338141362 545381 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :§ < 1338141372 29289 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, do you use that layout? < 1338141377 491081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: «» are altgr-zx for me < 1338141390 644818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, altgr-8 is [ for me too < 1338141392 361013 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that works too for me. < 1338141396 594956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Means they don't have to print out keyboards with different markings, unless they want to. < 1338141396 595163 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1338141397 613504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though [ is on my keyboard (not even shifted) < 1338141406 251985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¹²³€½¾{[]} < 1338141416 521612 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, fair enough < 1338141430 717343 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡@£$¤¥{[]}\ < 1338141437 842458 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ¤ is shift-4 for me. Utterly useless < 1338141448 991400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Apparently not; this is some random Ubuntu-Finnish thing. E.g. it has ¼ as altgr-§, whereas SFS 5966 has some combining diacritic there. (It has more dead-key diacritics than the usual.) < 1338141461 766259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: and why is that a useless character? < 1338141469 925429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen it used as a metasyntactic variable for currency characters before now :) < 1338141480 139685 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes, and I never ever used it < 1338141484 620106 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338141498 127617 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1338141526 872438 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :` is a dead key here, it is shift- < 1338141529 678274 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1338141537 509900 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a lot of spaces required < 1338141555 514705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I use the undead variant of the Finnish keymap, to be more accurate. < 1338141562 303492 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :undead? < 1338141575 675000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes ´`^~¨ not be dead keys. < 1338141580 232992 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338141580 875363 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: why are you using zombie keymap < 1338141598 325 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I thought that was an xkb setting? < 1338141602 990150 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ps, pls advise how to not kill off crawl characters < 1338141609 145139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got in the habit; I mean, it does mean less of useless spaces. < 1338141625 928058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can always do a compose key if I want to combine a ` with something. < 1338141626 758184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: don't play Crawl? < 1338141634 18097 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: who's elliott < 1338141635 66619 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, fair enough < 1338141635 325695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the only 100% reliable method < 1338141651 756508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, elliott's a logreader, and I guess he wants to know the answers to the same questions you do < 1338141662 975542 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i don't then 48 hours will pass and someone else will kill it off instead < 1338141667 900647 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't idael < 1338141668 677099 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideal < 1338141669 312066 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm how do I write é and è with compose? < 1338141681 533108 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :compose ' e / compose ` e < 1338141681 724264 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'll just wield all the disto stuff i can find and inscribe things with random letters and place nonsense map exclusions everywhere < 1338141685 281949 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pillar-dance for 100k turns < 1338141694 996369 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I guess it doesn't work when ` is a dead key... < 1338141698 495923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will that actually /help/? < 1338141710 373026 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, but it'll be entertaining < 1338141720 501382 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know then < 1338141738 489181 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy once wielded a disto weapon and then got berserked by xom (or went berserk himself, I don't recall) in front of a hydra with low HP on a round-robin character < 1338141742 189865 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then saved < 1338141743 407030 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it survived < 1338141758 401786 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1338141817 847116 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's probably been a week since kmc said that < 1338141818 536784 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so about that mongolian folk jazz < 1338141822 277753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I configured this via Gnome's keyboard settings thing; apparently the "Finland" variant there is very close to the new standard, while "Finland classic" is this random old thing, but there's only "Finland classic, eliminate dead keys", not "Finland, eliminate dead keys" available, and I haven't managed to care enough to make the correct thing happen. < 1338141849 60010 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|evilliopttic_PA: ? < 1338141861 234051 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog kmc.*in.*talking about < 1338141887 997019 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338141893 687601 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does the new one have µ on altgr-m? < 1338141893 879149 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338141902 948628 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use the deadkeys variant of the swedish layout, but do all coding in american layout < 1338141916 399973 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs kmc.*talking about < 1338141920 113411 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338141921 716597 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, that would totally confuse me < 1338141927 680995 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the american layout that is) < 1338141929 591728 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21914 < 1338141962 158121 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said something along the lines of "I come in and you're talking about [Crawl], in a few weeks you'll be talking about [obscure thing]". < 1338141969 54144 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I felt like I shouldn't let you down.. < 1338141971 390229 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.\././ < 1338141972 507773 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1338141973 836068 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's nothing compared to trying to code with a swedish keyboard < 1338141987 587667 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Both ones have it. The new one has some shift-altgr extra quotes in the number row; the "proper" doublequotes and that « » thing. < 1338142018 523347 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, well, I wouldn't know where to find the keys :P < 1338142030 98550 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but once you learn it, it is probably better yeah < 1338142041 640167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has an em-dash in altgr-shift-m. < 1338142073 535138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-–— < 1338142087 399336 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, rather than º you mean? < 1338142087 670559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if figure dash is anywhere on my compose key < 1338142091 667661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention minus sign < 1338142096 717861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many sorts of dash… < 1338142108 505489 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1338142113 737045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Æ’©ÐEªŊĦıJ&ŁºNØÞΩ®§Ŧ↑‘Ł>¥< < 1338142117 588177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ shifted altgr alphabet < 1338142136 582760 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :å∫ç∂´ƒ©˙^∆˚¬µ~øπœ®ß†¨√∑≈¥Ω < 1338142146 841383 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is shift-altgr-s §? I have that non-shifted... < 1338142149 195149 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I had to learn most of the american layout before that anyway, e.g. when using a computer before loading the swedish layout, or without it being properly configured < 1338142152 757853 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and non-altgr < 1338142157 141072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: According to the keymap viewer, it didn't have anything in altgr-shift-m. º is in altgr-shift-5 here. < 1338142160 687722 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it wasn't a big switch to start doing all coding in american < 1338142167 520711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because altgr-s is ß, which is probably more likely for a Brit to type < 1338142176 739128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it's a letter in German < 1338142179 19735 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, that rarely happens nowdays, unless you are installing really obscure distros. :P < 1338142190 773595 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, usually it is enough to know where / is < 1338142195 912586 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to do a loadkeys) < 1338142204 461966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to know the US layout because public terminals are set to it sometimes < 1338142204 962736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I could really do the US keymap any longer, but I certainly did use to know it well enough. < 1338142214 358986 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes but on my layout I mean < 1338142229 34789 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use the us keymap it's nice < 1338142237 464547 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well, *nowadays* that's not an issue because I actively use the us layout anyway < 1338142246 97669 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, heh < 1338142276 991161 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of US layout, don't they have that horrible half-height enter key? < 1338142301 900832 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but your keyboard doesn't actually change when setting the layout < 1338142308 409663 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'll keep your full-height enter key < 1338142308 957565 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, well duh < 1338142309 253544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: not always, just sometimes < 1338142318 505787 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I was talking about in general < 1338142326 948844 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, weird < 1338142353 843483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyboard layouts might be standardised, but keyboard /shapes/ aren't < 1338142366 116548 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338142377 83802 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the standard full size PC keyboard is < 1338142380 927100 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely? < 1338142393 269399 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptop keyboards not so much < 1338142425 676076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's a physical layout in *some* standard, but that doesn't mean it'd be any standard that mattered. < 1338142433 211255 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338142468 604203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They kept messing with the home/end/del/insert/pageup/down area recently, after all. < 1338142477 947383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The backslash key tends to be differ on different keyboards. < 1338142479 608496 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 the Trine OST < 1338142481 906115 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah, that is quite horrible < 1338142487 245234 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, trine 1 or trine 2? < 1338142487 836422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the double-sized... is it ins or del? < 1338142490 277852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the backslash to the right of the quotation mark < 1338142496 751716 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, um... did not know there's a Trine 2 < 1338142499 249774 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what? I haven't seen that variant < 1338142505 758285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then ones that turn it from 3x2 to 2x3. < 1338142506 27351 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, -_- < 1338142515 754790 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, go play it < 1338142516 227028 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, and I don't think I like the game that much < 1338142520 462671 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT? < 1338142520 693619 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the music's gorgeous. < 1338142530 35990 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, the game is gorgeous and really fun < 1338142545 768368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: One of them is double-sized, and the other moved up to the "useless" break/printscr/whatever row. < 1338142550 776061 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :only complaint I have about trine 2 is that the story was a bit meh < 1338142561 718735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything else should just keep the Model M layout. < 1338142577 302451 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since it is a physics based puzzle platformer, the story isn't really the focus < 1338142580 987568 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :model m's come in several layouts though < 1338142581 796379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not need separate arrow keys from the numpad, use the original PC layout, but with indicator lights on. < 1338142587 462034 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, "useless"? < 1338142604 258610 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, useless < 1338142610 692121 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :printscr is quite useful < 1338142611 97462 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the keyboard to the right of the enter key is useless < 1338142612 256471 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the enter key size and those 102/103/104 key variants vary between model ms < 1338142616 720297 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the arrow keys are useful < 1338142618 341027 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's it < 1338142649 458764 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :|evilliopttic_PA, oh come on, I use del,home,ende,pgup,pgdown a lot < 1338142658 694997 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so much insert < 1338142659 503907 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're wrong and dumb < 1338142667 851549 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and prtsc I use rarely < 1338142669 222862 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a keyboard without them for a while yuo'l become much happier < 1338142674 311166 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to be numpad dependent but then i used laptops < 1338142677 12303 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly no numpad use < 1338142678 859019 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually used scroll lock a few times < 1338142685 99075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, they've released some new Optimus keyboard models. There's an "Optimus Popularis" that looks like a compact-sized variant of the Maximus. < 1338142699 190309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used all the keys on the keyboard a lot < 1338142704 741069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably still costs absurd units of money. < 1338142776 474295 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is the optimus keyboard? < 1338142783 88197 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimal < 1338142796 395745 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds awesome < 1338142800 647447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That thing where each key is a small OLED display. < 1338142805 148794 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1338142899 992835 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d love to have one of these, but they frigging cost like 1000 €. < 1338142904 307000 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/_rzFqEqzhmA < 1338142914 818380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of their sample pictures is showing a keyboard where enter/shift are Kerplunk and Boom. < 1338142954 836913 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im kreplunt *& boom < 1338142957 864114 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :efijow < 1338142959 852363 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, I tried using a MS natural keyboard thingy once, was awkward < 1338142960 796480 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gs < 1338142963 925255 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: aww ye datahand < 1338142966 550200 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nothing like datahand < 1338142967 925124 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it is great once you get used to it < 1338142979 551371 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i wanna try one of those < 1338142990 828919 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my hands survive past 24 < 1338143144 348680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :|evilliopttic_PA: Perhaps you should use a custom keyboard made out of a Power Glove. < 1338143156 811066 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, :D < 1338143162 647631 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my current solution < 1338143190 610782 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:26 58. vorpal the Firebug (L8 DrFE), worshipper of Vehumet, slain by a killer bee on D:7 on 2008-02-06, with 1385 points after 9149 turns and 3:24:37. < 1338143192 918911 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you're crap at crawl < 1338143292 655263 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :|evilliopttic_PA, I don't *play* crawl < 1338143295 500486 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is someone else < 1338143297 828042 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly! < 1338143458 190920 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: The top comments on that video are even worse than average. < 1338143495 707930 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny.. Such a "modern" and "ergonomic" keyboard still uses the QWERTY layout. Thousands of English words can be typed with only the left hand. Only a few hundred with the right. If you're typing in English, and using QWERTY, then not only will it slow you down, it will fatigue your left hand a hundred times more than your right hand. < 1338143497 570669 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1338143505 292881 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they not realise it is literally irrelevant what layout it is < 1338143508 987962 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your fingers DON'T MOVE < 1338143515 92194 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh I don't get the point of ['] in Forth? < 1338143522 397528 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it differ from '? < 1338143542 713295 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Btw, i love how the image of the “traditional keyboard layout” in that video is the Amiga layout, complete with the Amiga keys near Space. < 1338143591 249210 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, yeah it is funny < 1338143611 391494 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, also one connector on the back of the datahand looked like a serial cable to me < 1338143676 785591 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Well, it *is* traditional. < 1338143847 791016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "If you want the execution token of word, write ['] word in compiled code and ' word in interpreted code." ['] parses the name at compilation time, and then compiles to something that pushes the xt. Or some-such. < 1338143891 260664 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1338143906 580621 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@97-127-216-154.dlth.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338143967 543988 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take you this way that way which way what way oh way my way her way his way their way its way some way any way < 1338143990 756600 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :…? < 1338144004 499463 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyrics from a song < 1338144021 560024 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like quite stupid lyrics to me < 1338144050 539505 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't really mean anything sensible < 1338144084 477743 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a way in which they could < 1338144095 542061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Especially in context of the rest of the song) < 1338144132 949892 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1338144164 60240 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "take" is being used in a sexual sense < 1338144184 583023 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@97-127-216-154.dlth.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338144351 34528 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338144563 162129 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: by the way why did you ask me about zsh < 1338144575 958437 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO REASON < 1338144590 202416 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, why were you quoting lyrics < 1338144593 543783 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a terrible thing < 1338144629 644644 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the esoteric song contest was over days ago < 1338144672 75558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quote lyrics every now and then. < 1338144677 324290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-12-18 00:34:41 "Too many fingers / have I got in my hand / I think there happened a creature / an alien creature" -- paraphrasing some Finnish song lyrics. < 1338144797 849684 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What song? < 1338144826 684807 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338144897 125066 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1338144929 981723 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog topic.*international hub < 1338144937 655544 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-05-02.txt:02:04:50: * pikhq has changed the topic to: - the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - map: http://www.frappr.com/esolang - forum: http://esolangs.org/forum/ - EgoBot: !help - wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or ttp://meme.b9.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric - Pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/ | 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 < 1338144943 883621 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog topic.*international hub < 1338144950 975070 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2006-08-26.txt:20:21:18: -!- GregorR changed the topic of #esoteric to: the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - map: http://www.frappr.com/esolang - forum: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/forum/ - EgoBot: !help - wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or http://meme.b9.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric - for brainfuck-specific discussion, < 1338144962 120933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: The one that goes "Liikaa sormia / ompi mulla kädessä / taisi käydä olio / avaruusolio." < 1338144963 496614 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - map: http://www.frappr.com/esolang - forum: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/forum/ - EgoBot: !help - wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or http://meme.b9.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric - for brainfuck-specific discussion, < 1338144988 454865 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: guoess what i gifted you with < 1338144993 170073 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://www.byterapers.scene.org/scene-music.htm "Monta sormee?" < 1338145043 784810 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm bad at guessing, but it looks awful < 1338145044 326195 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 4 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338145051 227001 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrautlations < 1338145076 227493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|evilliopttic_PA: not bad enough; several of the links may still work < 1338145084 860107 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its good enough for me < 1338145088 999641 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the cut off < 1338145094 769995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1338145126 700278 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :It is 2005 and there is time to be the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment. http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1338145269 695547 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: File not found :-( < 1338145369 74538 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run uname -a < 1338145372 50186 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.0.8-umlbox #2 Sun Nov 13 21:30:28 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1338145771 176809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you made any file for Internet Quiz Engine yet? < 1338145978 79747 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what browsers do you (plural) use? < 1338145986 888649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Oh noes, their FTP seems to have borken. Anyway, http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detail=modules&view=6513 claims to have it also, but both opencubicplayer and mikmod barf on the XM file, even though 'file' says it looks just fine. < 1338146219 859589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I have a mirror of my own. < 1338146242 846472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me just dump that somewhere. < 1338146358 664914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't break it. 7 years bad luck, you see. < 1338146386 552321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://zem.fi/tmp/byterapers-modules-humorouscollection/ < 1338146477 675335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If you make, say, six copies of a mirror, and then break the copies, does it count as 42 years of bad luck, or don't the copies count since in the grand scheme of things you haven't decreased the number of mirrors? < 1338146611 558662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after you break the first mirror, bad luck will ensure the others count for at least 7 years each. < 1338146625 645383 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Thankes. < 1338147541 319083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: For web browser I use my own system which is Mozilla-based, although I prefer the command-line < 1338147554 204359 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo < 1338147577 855822 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what kind of command line < 1338147598 592571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNIX command-line is best, although I use the Windows command-line as well. < 1338147648 572476 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like unix command line, TWENEX command like is also pretty good and DOS is ok < 1338147739 635204 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS is ok? < 1338147785 404549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At one place I sometimes volunteer at, I gave them a computer, and it has FreeDOS. I programmed it for them, in Forth. < 1338147861 478586 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: for what purpose did you program it to them? < 1338147867 767891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, there is still no printer. Do you know if there is any driver for FreeDOS to cause outputs to LPT1 and so on to be redirected to the USB port? In case, it is USB printer, but it still has to be PCL < 1338147885 96319 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: It is a database program < 1338147903 172484 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well I have used DOS since I was 7 so it has kinda grown on me < 1338147943 608247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also do you know what TeX distribution works on FreeDOS and includes a DVI->PCL program? < 1338147987 574010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need PostScript, PDF, e-TeX, and so on; I only use Plain TeX. < 1338148153 657667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The computer that I gave to them, I also got it for free myself too, from FreeGeek; it came with Ubuntu and included CRT, keyboard, mouse, speakers. I didn't take the mouse and speakers and the FreeGeek also let me use their blank DVDs to copy FreeDOS so I could install FreeDOS on there too, and then I installed BBL/Abundance. < 1338148265 23973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The license for BBL/Abundance says you can do absolutely anything you want, except military use. < 1338148268 134933 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that remind me how I uses FreeDOS as my main os for around a month < 1338148306 595504 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in 2008) < 1338148717 859638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any terminal emulator allow you to push scroll lock to prevent the screen from automatically scrolling and make the arrow keys scroll the window? < 1338148757 250674 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think xterm does but I am not surr < 1338148833 301666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use the 4dos command line, it was quite snazzy compared to plain DOS. < 1338148859 859534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All those pretty coloured directory listings and tab-completions and whatnots. < 1338148887 283281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows now has tab-completion but they didn't add those other things < 1338148903 358070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if I recall correctly 4dos managed to use less memory than command.com. < 1338148945 52990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the Windows tab-completion works differently from the UNIX tab-completion. < 1338149030 877542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :4dos had some amount of customization in tab completion, you could list what sort of extensions which command accepted. < 1338149043 768163 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :4dos.ini: FileCompletion=cd:dirs; unzip:arj zip zoo exe lzh dirs; pkunzip:zip exe dirs; arj:arj a?? exe dirs; lha:lzh exe dirs; zoo:zoo exe dirs < 1338149116 704210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also seem to have a colordir setting which says "doc txt me 1st" are text documents; the latter presumably for read.me and readme.1st files. < 1338149147 27747 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doctor, text me first. < 1338149320 846724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, this DOS directory is such a mess of mess. There are different console fonts ans whatever here; those .com things that you run and they replace the current font. < 1338149353 431029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I had some trouble figuring out what "light.com" and "broadway.com" were, based on the name.) < 1338149406 650068 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Files with .DOC may sometimes be Microsoft Word documents, although sometimes they are plain text. Although READ.ME and README.1ST are nearly always plain texts, and FILE_ID.DIZ may be a short description of the downloaded archive in plain text format. < 1338149407 187161 :|evilliopttic_PA!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338149449 127290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There once was a BBS system that put their own "downloaded from" ad into each .zip file, in a file called "KALAA&LI.HAA". < 1338149465 431079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Finnish for, basically, "FISH&ME.AT". < 1338149559 841597 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They really shouldn't modify the ZIP files; they should only read them to check for the existence of a FILE_ID.DIZ file (in the root directory of the ZIP), in my opinion. < 1338149593 135654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should also check for a ZIP comment and a password. < 1338150679 163225 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read that booster packs for some card games have a small chance to be entirely rares. TeXnicard supports this using the "n" flag in a deck list. TeXnicard also supports selecting without replacement ("k" flag) and requiring unique selections ("u" flag), but I do not know if any card games use these. Do you know if they do or not? < 1338151474 951252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like arithmetic IF? < 1338151486 625753 :Case1!~Dr._Danee@c-66-177-75-63.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1338151563 966038 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :arimetric IF? < 1338151587 558633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arithmetic IF, not arimetric IF. < 1338151657 634911 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338151713 35377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I prefer short-circuiting if, it's more generally useful < 1338151725 232151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer call-by-name semantics to call-by-value generally anyway… < 1338151774 638750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is one possible implementation of a stack-based arithmetic if in C: register_value v=stack_ptr[-3]; int n=v.number; n=-(n<0?2:!n); stack_ptr[-3]=stack_ptr[n]; stack_ptr[n]=v; stack_drop(); stack_drop(); stack_drop(); < 1338151781 880856 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338151801 992039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That is useful, too, yes. < 1338151862 289441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are wondering why this algorithm is so strange, I can tell you, the reason it is like this is for garbage collection to work. < 1338152116 261357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc doesn't use this but I think the design of dc would work better with the arithmetic if. < 1338152395 243320 :MDuck!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338153039 513224 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338153671 942048 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc has if? < 1338153714 303837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: It does have conditional commands, but they aren't very good in my opinion; arithmetic if would be a better design to fit with the rest of dc. < 1338153754 315028 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1338153812 764257 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc is Turing complete. < 1338153833 123391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes, I think you are correct. < 1338153835 268528 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its conditional execution is by conditional macro invocation. < 1338153837 742736 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I'm correct. < 1338153845 242215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that is also correct. < 1338153847 543560 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :with only one stack? < 1338153854 607316 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has 256 stacks. < 1338153873 880752 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has? I didn't know that < 1338153880 179100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has 256 arrays and 256 scalar registers. < 1338153888 729331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as a stack. < 1338153909 89657 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not really arrays, they're only accessible as stacks. < 1338153917 176881 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least not by classic dc. < 1338153994 937588 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc also has bignums. < 1338154007 672139 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1338154202 638774 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338154410 335339 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338154488 849725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of image manipulations commands should I include in TeXnicard? Some of my ideas include: convolve, blur, paste, blend, mask, ... < 1338154650 996495 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338154724 470992 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338154752 967264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The : and ; commands that work on arrays are at least in Unix V7 dc man page; not classic enough for you? < 1338154805 947031 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1338154816 612938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I already have is that, there are ten bitmaps and ten graymaps which can be manipulated; TeXnicard never works directly on color pictures (the channels will be combined/separated upon export/import). < 1338154840 779039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though the indices are limited to 0..2047 in that man page, so it's not an array of arbitrary size.) < 1338154862 275979 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, heheh, I forgot that there were numbered arrays along with the named stacks. < 1338154956 42124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My current man dc has a tie between the stacks and arrays -- "Note that each stacked instance of a register has its own array associated with it. Thus 1 0:a 0Sa 2 0:a La 0;ap will print 1, because the 2 was stored in an instance of 0:a that was later popped." -- but the V7 man page mentions that not. < 1338155051 766346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So in this dc at least there's 256 stacks of arrays.) < 1338155147 417999 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338155153 403050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have implemented the XKCD variation of Deadfish in dc. (As far as I know, this is *not* the reason why the XKCD variation was invented; I do not know the real reason) < 1338155271 663884 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338155305 989583 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. could an OS be programmed in dc < 1338155325 830168 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some supporting asm < 1338155383 472305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc does not support that < 1338155496 36578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the xkcd variation was added by an anonymous ip which seems to belong to asiekierka < 1338155514 463724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(based on signing on talk pages) < 1338155517 455839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What reason? < 1338155525 376830 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What reason was it added? < 1338155543 861985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no reason given, just "XKCD!" < 1338155583 565060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was I the first one to use it? Was I the only one to use it? < 1338155591 307737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i just checked it as i remembered it being an anon ip, i wasn't expecting to find it was someone i knew from here < 1338155603 955522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't recall anyone else implementing it < 1338155621 117387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone did say before it belong to asiekierka, but that still doesn't tell what reason it was added. < 1338155675 907523 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why did you implement the xkcd variation instead of the normal one? < 1338155709 65193 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: Do you know dc? Maybe then you might understand. Look at the implementation code, and then you might understand, too. < 1338155736 466096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to do with limitations in dc. < 1338155844 644623 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. that code is definitely write only < 1338155959 86060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? It should be understandable if you can understand a dc code < 1338156146 292680 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it is understandable but so is all so called writr only code I have seen before < 1338156193 347180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the channel logs show asiekierka was here that day and the previous, seemingly generally annoying people; he mentioned deadfish but not in connection with xkcd. < 1338156242 297015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i think the dc implementation is good enough reason for the xkcd version to exist. < 1338156346 360614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log What xkcd style comic? < 1338156362 366079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs < 1338157352 957233 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data-copying is the area i have in mind that we have to constrain ourselves, because data-copying is easy for us if we choose to do it < 1338157395 800768 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many plugs and connectors consist mostly in how incompatible they can be < 1338157474 805880 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The music < 1338157477 316302 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in there! < 1338157482 63377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: But that has nothing to do with the moon, isn't it? < 1338157530 812856 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the good thing about the constraints the moon places on us is we simply have no choice.. we don't choose to be constrained by the sun and moon.. we just are < 1338157648 538044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Well, yes; with the sun and moon, they do affect us much. The other planets in the solar system do not significantly affect things on the Earth (although, I have read that there are some effects, apparently sometimes Jupiter prevents asteroids from destroying the Earth) < 1338157662 106327 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1338157668 289072 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice work Jupiter < 1338157724 729466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Jupiter is a much bigger target than the Earth is, both in terms of size and gravity well < 1338157741 41318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1338157742 429637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so celestial bodies which are on the sort of orbit that might hit things in the ecliptic are much more likely to hit Jupiter than Earth < 1338157834 106208 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame the coffee for this set of recent posts i just made < 1338158003 88404 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338158630 241539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a quiz file for Internet Quiz Engine, which is based on esoteric programming and the people in this channel, and then put it in the topic message < 1338158796 378323 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338158814 451552 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338158816 692547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi rszeno < 1338158819 264361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1338158822 386646 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338158929 552497 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1338159103 636544 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a turing machine with one tape limited on one side allways start from first cell, right? < 1338159206 282677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it /has/ to, but people pretty much assume that it does < 1338159213 983737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well unless someone needs it not to do so, but then they'd presumably note that it doesn't < 1338159215 163682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it starts from the start by convention < 1338159227 487647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I'm tempted to make a pointless BF derivative that starts from the second cell < 1338159232 553732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is otherwise the same as stock BF < 1338159237 736716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we get a lot of pointless BF derivatives around here) < 1338159286 538025 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is any result which say that the two machine are equivalent? < 1338159315 99106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :equivalent in what sense? computational capability, obviously < 1338159316 42799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reminded how you usually assume a stack language starts with an empty stack, but if you assume the stack is _not_ empty you can do things like that : drop dup dup - - ; definition mentioned yesterday < 1338159320 114158 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one which start to a random position and the one which start from first state < 1338159328 553608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ability to simulate, obviously if you're allowed extra colors/states < 1338159348 20331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's a random position rather than a specific non-first position, then they're equivalent because you can't move left anyway because you can't guarantee there's anything there < 1338159356 970735 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img2.demotywatoryfb.pl/uploads/201205/1338074103_by_admin_inner.gif < 1338159524 176371 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338159565 795069 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus21 < 1338159567 711838 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to extend thue, and when i search for lhs in the input i get a list of possible positions < 1338159614 174196 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this make me think to start rewriting to a random position not first one < 1338159755 493841 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1338159762 873699 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rewriting result could be different in many cases, depend of the rule set < 1338159988 690345 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i say equivalence i'm thinking to simulation < 1338160054 604824 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338160100 292791 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly, same results after runing < 1338160328 350349 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338160626 729643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, thue is rather different to a TM in the way it operates < 1338160655 532932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace-at-random Thue (how it's defined) isn't more powerful than replace-from-the-left Thue (apart from being able to produce true randomness), but it is rather different in nature < 1338160773 593298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there WEB-IDE, where, for example, you can click a chunk name to move the cursor to its definition, push a key for the table of contents, and so on? < 1338160942 28754 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, i'm looking for the simplest solution. if the replace-from-the-left will give same result i will prefere this one < 1338160979 20607 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338160989 276650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: well, it's a different language; you could convert a program written for one to run in the other, but it might be slower or more complicated < 1338161099 311777 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338161102 690380 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm aware of this < 1338161181 382739 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if automatic conversion from one program to another is possible, probably yes < 1338161243 487022 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm curious if can be done using combinatory logic < 1338161268 405306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, automatic conversion from any TC language to any other is always possible < 1338161274 346419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although sometimes (often, in fact) it's rather ugly < 1338161326 316082 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Brainfuck to Jot < 1338161342 182076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: meh, I wrote a P'' interp in Unlambda < 1338161345 486981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not too hard < 1338161358 394862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just looks like an interp for a tape-based language written in a functional language < 1338161370 251580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obfuscated by the lack of useful variable names, etc < 1338161381 619027 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was referring mostly to the I/O thing < 1338161402 843351 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I/O is another problem i have, :) < 1338161455 844465 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need some syntax, minimal, to describe the I/O flow < 1338161496 208605 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had search on esolang for ideas < 1338161927 5300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PART :#esoteric < 1338161956 67077 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm curios if this is a mad idea < 1338162037 598170 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i have the grammar g1 for a language, P'' for example and another grammar g2 for another language, Unlambda < 1338162038 957594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1338162042 713325 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." < 1338162117 574912 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conversion from g1 to g2 is given by a formal system < 1338162166 596716 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a formal system can be described using grammars < 1338162215 341051 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is to use thue for all this steps < 1338162318 260852 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, i'm the Cat, :) < 1338162400 292036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338162400 486136 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338162406 411891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338162414 315012 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1338162579 411211 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION full trio aka cone < 1338162595 817153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1338162611 519827 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_%28formal_languages%29 < 1338162710 997917 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know about this until few minutes ago < 1338162787 691620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah transducers < 1338162790 545077 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fact i didn't know is named this way < 1338162808 889201 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338162813 319481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither, but i recall reading about transducers < 1338162840 775293 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, don't worry about all that, the world's ending today apparently < 1338162841 301223 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.the-end.com/ < 1338162889 205229 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too, Mateescu and Salomaa is subject learning in schools here < 1338162911 415808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: again? i've barely got over _last_ time... < 1338162942 79397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't learn it from a textbook though, i found it in a math encyclopedia < 1338163045 221447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: he seems to be trumpeting his theory there < 1338163103 847333 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338163173 622006 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will be four trumpets, i'm waiting to the 3-rd < 1338163181 19962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.prophecysigns.com/assets/Images/chart16.jpg < 1338163313 2644 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338163331 867381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome BlueProtoman < 1338163335 124265 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338163339 290399 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, oerjan. < 1338163828 690524 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo thue is perfect for transducers < 1338164061 11179 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338164784 200120 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know why my Brainfuck loops aren't working? I think it's the way I'm storing the []'s in a table, I don't think I'm doing it correctly. Code's coming up/ < 1338164801 649881 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338164810 389325 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ideone.com/PT6Rp < 1338164831 399738 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338164920 416114 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like it's doing more than checking loops < 1338164933 999731 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is brace_table a global variable? < 1338164937 86455 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338164948 898906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: don't you need to save backwards jumps as well? < 1338164956 46102 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme explain how this works. < 1338164976 919220 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan on implementing several Brainfuck dialects in my program. To do this, each dialect comes as a class that derives from AbstractBF. < 1338164991 363012 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the Brainfuck class has a std::unordered_map brace_table. < 1338165018 622271 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each entry is a pair of braces; the ['s position is the key and the ]'s position is the element. < 1338165048 37050 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a [ is found, its position is recorded in brace_table, with its element initially being -1. < 1338165103 330830 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :While all this is going on, I'm pushing [ positions onto a std::stack. < 1338165134 964027 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a ] is found, its corresponding key is found with find(), and then that element is set to the ]'s position. < 1338165147 698429 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If any element is equal to -1, something went wrong. < 1338165171 447055 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus we don't run the program. Problem is, I seem to be looping to the beginning of the program whenever I hit a [. < 1338165197 782208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: well the bug is probably not in the part you pasted, then. < 1338165202 338404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does your program deal with jumping from a [ to a ] when the value is zero? < 1338165213 481274 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: When the element is 0, you mean? < 1338165218 739698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338165250 140619 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't. I should fix that by testing whether tempbracestack is empty or not. < 1338165259 437523 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that doesn't seem to be my problem. < 1338165273 101905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: um i think he means when the _tape_ value is zero. < 1338165301 261668 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What do you mean the tape value? I don't quite follow. < 1338165330 363674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: for the standard brainfuck with a tape of cells < 1338165335 635245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or array < 1338165346 589871 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right. Lemme show you. < 1338165355 286484 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I handle all BF instructions as function objects. < 1338165371 37054 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But first I use a regex to filter out other characters. < 1338165402 624549 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's my entire class. http://ideone.com/ZTTwA < 1338165409 303616 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including the instructions. < 1338165556 973875 :Mefi!~eskim@d165-234.icpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338165710 795488 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any thoughts? < 1338165816 75524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1338165951 206768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338165966 598693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is instructions[program[currentinstruction++]](); < 1338165975 634369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well defined behavior? < 1338165999 336052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, is it guaranteed when the increment happens wrt. the function call? < 1338166013 145616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think the timing of the increment wrt the call is guaranteed < 1338166023 709089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if that doesn't matter, it's well defined in other respects < 1338166037 733086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it matters for [ and ] < 1338166039 819356 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338166040 101743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unspecified rather than undefined, as in IIRC you're guaranteed that it will definitely happen either before or after < 1338166065 290236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, it doesn't matter, just go backwards to the first [ or ] of the group < 1338166069 788256 :Mefi!~eskim@d165-234.icpnet.pl PART :#esoteric < 1338166076 323801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this actually works!) < 1338166091 950238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I used the trick to obfuscate a BF interp for the IOCCC once, but it didn't win) < 1338166099 547821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: erm in the given code it matters, currentinstruction is used to look up the point to jump to < 1338166118 724122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: with [[, there's no way that the second [ can perform a jump < 1338166120 348611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it has already been incremented, that could well give a zero < 1338166124 666221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise, with ]], there's no way the second ] can perform a jump < 1338166137 300405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: erm are you even understanding my point? < 1338166145 207710 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for each [, you can just give the instruction after it the same jump target as the [ itself < 1338166155 655336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm understanding your point, but I think you're missing mine < 1338166172 153117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is that you have enough information to determine where to jump to even with an uncertainty of 1 in the IP < 1338166184 421227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sheesh. you're being irrelevant to the code we're actually trying to debug. < 1338166203 1784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this is debugging? I thought you were trying to find a creative way to write a BF interp < 1338166252 188017 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338166258 924613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: anyway, try putting the currentinstruction++ in a separate command afterwards. < 1338166259 807944 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If instructions (which is a std::unordered_map>) returns nothing, it'll throw an exception, which I catch. < 1338166276 931068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1338166285 854543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1338166328 500331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: that's not the problem. the instruction is found fine, but the code for [ needs currentinstruction to _not_ be incremented in between < 1338166331 417395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu < 1338166344 454320 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it returns no function object, then we've hit a character that isn't a Brainfuck instruction, and was somehow missed by the regecx. < 1338166346 909742 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*regex. < 1338166347 949653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well assuming my guess is right < 1338166384 677661 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm getting somewhere. Still not finished, though. < 1338166386 427546 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold on. < 1338166405 867251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: my guess is that (1) the instruction for a [ is looked up, correctly (2) currentinstruction++ is incremented, too early (3) the code for [ breaks because of (2) < 1338166439 27684 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the third most relevant architecture beyond x86[_64] and ARM? PPC? MIPS? < 1338166447 437425 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-224.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably PPC. < 1338166450 735137 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: For some reason, I get �� as my output. < 1338166451 447186 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338166457 699602 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some pic stuff < 1338166459 967358 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is SUCH a distant third. < 1338166464 446482 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AVR? < 1338166470 140397 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-224.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: All current-gen consoles use it. < 1338166470 336669 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, for Arduinos. < 1338166475 980655 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, that's true. < 1338166481 789349 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arduinos are a tiny tiny tiny tiny fraction of all AVRs in use < 1338166485 629045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338166487 651649 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1338166492 223406 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PIC and AVR and their friends probably outnumber x86 and ARM by a large factor < 1338166509 573499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: what happens if you replace instructions[program[currentinstruction++]](); with instructions[program[currentinstruction]](); currentinstruction++; ? < 1338166511 82335 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really mean general-purpose MMU-capable archs *shrugs* < 1338166517 905043 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arduinos are expensive as hell < 1338166520 277983 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what ebout the amount of software written for it? < 1338166521 671088 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are they that expensive anyways < 1338166531 362457 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they still 50$? < 1338166534 561015 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: there are plenty of cheap clones < 1338166535 694414 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I get garbage output, but no infinite loop. < 1338166538 955621 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they were like $30 < 1338166541 449901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1338166543 345336 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like this; �� < 1338166547 841681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: ok scratch that then :( < 1338166558 453 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've come to see Arduinos as a representation of the new hipster electronics generation < 1338166558 707159 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means I'm on the right track, though, doesn't it? < 1338166563 712109 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Them, and sparkfun < 1338166572 204807 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expensive as hell but buy is it hip and cool < 1338166577 5128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: well it means it changed the behavior, at least. < 1338166580 320282 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/buy/boy/ < 1338166587 778754 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: arduinos are reasonable development boards < 1338166597 175966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION defers to real c++ experts, and goes for food -> < 1338166601 645431 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you build a project around an arduino and leave it in there, that's kind of silly < 1338166608 222489 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but that's what they do. < 1338166613 314886 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lumpio: haven't seen anything interesting sound synthesis wise from that stuff < 1338166617 270056 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really you're whining about someone spending an extra $20 here and there < 1338166619 235867 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda disappointing < 1338166621 599551 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Arduino? < 1338166629 275461 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are largely people with jobs who make more than $20 an hour < 1338166643 320316 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess arduino isn't very good for audio anyways < 1338166658 369969 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the AVRS used in arduinoes even have hardware multiplication < 1338166673 41393 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they just want to make something cool, not spend all day soldering chips by hand to appease some crusty old electronics beardo < 1338166687 634321 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you sound like more of a hipster than them < 1338166695 35754 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i was into electronics before it was cool and accessible" < 1338166718 169299 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any tips for my Brainfuck interpreter? I no longer get infinite loops with my output, but I do get garbage output (and I know that the program doesn't run completely). http://ideone.com/4dXq8 < 1338166740 33123 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like the people who whine about any software not written in C < 1338166762 937836 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg think of all the inefficiency, i'm using literally megabytes of memory, or 0.025% of the total available on my system < 1338166784 301682 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman, you are outside of the program, probably after it < 1338166786 504135 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: to answer your question, no the ATmega328 and friends do not have hardware multiply < 1338166791 571883 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ook < 1338166799 554948 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: What makes you say that? < 1338166816 531031 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ...actually I wasn't into electronics before it was cool and accessible .__. < 1338166819 156766 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output < 1338166826 264524 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: so you're a *poseur* hipster :) < 1338166828 426739 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've barely even played with MCUs yet < 1338166854 115428 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look like reading a random place in memory < 1338166858 237741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have ideas and plans to build a new computer, probably using an existing CPU architecture for practical purposes; if I could build a MMIX which is cost-effective I would do that; GCC already can compile for MMIX. However I will also need a GPU or DSP; can you recommend one which has Free software and can do audio and video? < 1338166885 901631 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: I don't see how that's possible, since I have a check to make sure the program stops running when currentinstruction > program.size(). < 1338166916 710889 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: PPC is used in game consoles and a lot of embedded stuff, MIPS also used in embedded stuff plus Chinese government is pushing it, s390 / s390x still quite relevant in enterprise < 1338166936 758106 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PPC might be the most common synthesizable core for FPGAs < 1338166937 530496 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you change beaviour when you play with indexes < 1338166955 333538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is Chinese government pushing it? < 1338166962 817167 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, s390 still gets used? < 1338166977 495 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Because x86 is dominated by untrustworthy capitalist swine < 1338166978 788279 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should use an iterator instead? < 1338166983 544482 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1338167012 675761 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're making their own processors so they can have hardware spyware on them < 1338167018 620708 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-224.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: IBM doesn't believe in letting things die. < 1338167030 242905 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's kind of the point of buying enterprise stuff < 1338167055 456808 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazy people use enterpricey stuff with long-term support. < 1338167058 801957 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo is a bad idea to use oop and streams for this but probably is only my opinion, :) < 1338167060 690735 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :True haxors live on the bleeding edge < 1338167065 434687 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1338167103 80781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you suggest the CPU, GPU, DSP to use? < 1338167109 319032 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm actually the #1 (publicly known) supercomputer in the world is based on SPARC64 < 1338167125 762445 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1338167135 479094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we make a Checkout compiler to any GPU? < 1338167199 651711 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to use a fast gpu from anything else than PC, ARM or PPC? < 1338167221 499690 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does zzo38 even need anything besides a text mode? < 1338167254 691425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For what I am making, it needs user-definable modes. The BIOS can include the text mode built-in < 1338167284 844450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it need to support composite video out, and preferably also component video out. < 1338167295 293481 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8BB1C.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338167313 964913 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of resolution are we talking about < 1338167324 225746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTSC < 1338167331 569140 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not PAL? :( < 1338167348 456175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make a PAL version as well, but at first just NTSC < 1338167348 664779 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At any rate, that kind of resolution is not really hard to generate. < 1338167370 997148 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make your own little GPU out of an FPGA or something. < 1338167380 302760 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lumpio: sounds hard no? < 1338167395 167 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, NTSC is easier to generate and practically all modern TVs support it < 1338167399 986281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only will an FPGA might be slow, but the ones I know of are encrypted and lack Free software < 1338167400 675690 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: What does? < 1338167421 81598 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slow? < 1338167423 811144 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pffrt < 1338167438 641165 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :designing a nice gpu that does something else than just regurgitate the content of the VRAM < 1338167440 920273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FPGA might be slightly slow, possibly < 1338167446 271812 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what do you mean encrypted, are you talking about the dev tools? < 1338167474 455964 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: A RAMDAC is all a true programmer needs! < 1338167476 799974 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬u¬ < 1338167483 846944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Yes. Also the program to load into the FPGA is encrypted for all the ones I know of < 1338167490 516166 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of stuff did you have in mind >madbr < 1338167495 466860 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tiles? Sprites? < 1338167497 216128 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...3D? < 1338167504 410924 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, http://www.milkymist.org/mmone.html ? < 1338167512 171590 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d is kinda hard so I was thinking more like tiles and sprites :D < 1338167546 292124 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tiles and sprites shouldn't be /that/ hard < 1338167546 566201 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiles or other static layers aren't too hard actually, it's sprites that are hard < 1338167574 316181 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least with the kind of power we have these days < 1338167595 470146 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, with the kind of power we have you can just use a framebuffer < 1338167622 137647 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again I've never done any video output more advanced than http://qp.virkkunen.net/private/jbxmAAqned < 1338167637 343169 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was thinking something like a snes/genesis style chip < 1338167640 74637 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I should really get back to that thing and add a stable clock source, the jitter is awful < 1338167655 140569 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that generates a scanline worth of data each scanline < 1338167714 908889 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one nice idea I had was to precalculate which sprite is on top of each pixel < 1338167722 896127 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Oh no. Why am I considering looking at Eiffel again < 1338167724 141267 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then just load the pixel that's on top < 1338167742 292322 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you have more or less "infinite fillrate" < 1338167750 388548 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie can put lots of large objects < 1338167762 166993 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't figured out how to do lots of small sprites though :/ < 1338167779 179357 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sprite systems usually have fixed sizes for sprites anyways < 1338167785 500731 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or a couple of choices) < 1338167793 478907 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to make large objects you use a lot of small sprites. < 1338167888 962668 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah most classic sprite systems use transparent colors < 1338167903 751998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: is +1 correct in currentinstruction = brace_table.find(currentinstruction)->first +1; ? < 1338167914 749283 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you have to read every potential pixel to see if it uses the transparent color < 1338167928 802506 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which puts an absolute limit on fillrate < 1338167932 828887 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It should be. That puts me at the instruction past the ]. < 1338167969 415577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: past the [ you mean? but you have a currentintstruction++ to be performed after that, you know... < 1338167973 964555 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ie if a pixel is hidden by another pixel, you can't have it for free) < 1338167981 97940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*currentinstruction++ < 1338167990 371957 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait. I don't understand. Mind elaborating on what I'm doing wrong? < 1338168024 832846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: does that +1 in the code for ] take into account that currentinstruction is automatically incremented after each instruction run? < 1338168027 363321 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially I think it would make more sense to store the transparency mask separately < 1338168045 148595 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It might not, actually. < 1338168059 565085 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: But you still have to read each pixel of the mask < 1338168064 693970 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do software developers usually write code with only half an idea of what they're doing? < 1338168076 988436 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lumpio: but the mask can be 1bpp < 1338168087 989134 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1338168089 42210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: all the time, i hear (but then i'm not a software developer) < 1338168091 947404 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: yes, at least me < 1338168097 72341 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you're reading 32 pixels at the same time if your memory bus is 32 bits < 1338168104 77392 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, OK. < 1338168110 146202 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR < 1338168117 878560 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mask can be stored as segments < 1338168123 600202 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does that mask come from in the first place < 1338168128 132182 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does each sprite have one? < 1338168151 546448 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"segment 1 starts at pixel a and finishes at pixel b, segment 2 starts at pixel c and finishes at pixel d" < 1338168173 843041 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lumpio: yeah < 1338168209 248642 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah if you're using a segment list you still have to read the segment list < 1338168220 141621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: btw did i mention at the start that i thought the brace_table should contain entried for the ]'s as well? then you don't need an expensive find afaiu < 1338168222 133197 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's still a limit on the number of sprites you can put onscreen < 1338168227 455134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*entries < 1338168228 490296 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is EiffelStudio good? < 1338168240 566060 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there good alternatives if I want to write proprietary programs in Eiffel? < 1338168245 139508 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It does. The key is the ['s, the element is the ]'s < 1338168257 46932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: no i mean, index _both_ ways < 1338168267 753875 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I could use a multimap for that, I guess. < 1338168269 122367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's just a simple lookup either way < 1338168287 594904 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. BRB, dinner < 1338168347 206346 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I dunno if somebody's already mentioned this but is there a point in indexing loops beforehand?) < 1338168424 705656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: in bf? well i guess you _could_ do it as you go, but it's a natural part of parsing... < 1338168443 305710 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do software rendering VGA style, you probably have to precompute the transparency mask of each sprite too < 1338168448 981927 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also speaking of sound synthesis on MCUs < 1338168452 250485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely more efficient than searching for the matching [] every time :P < 1338168457 481187 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qp.virkkunen.net/private/edjvvEcfiH < 1338168462 176576 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking every pixel for transparency is way too slow < 1338168463 718254 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is as far as I got before getting bored ¬u¬ < 1338168485 773455 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This thing doesn't have a hardware multiplier either so it can only handle 3 or 4 channels or so < 1338168492 451802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: wait was your question about something completely different? :P < 1338168493 721385 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also due to my lacking math-fu there's an awful lot of noise. < 1338168500 11097 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Nope < 1338168536 189122 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the waveform? < 1338168565 209707 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do a nice soundtrack in 4 channels < 1338168566 352486 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well you can at least find backward jumps by keeping a stack of open loops < 1338168573 513628 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...provided that you have lots of sample data :D < 1338168580 485068 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess forward jumps would still result in a scan < 1338168592 120134 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a simple sine wave < 1338168598 892094 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :With an envelope I drew in GIMP < 1338168606 593064 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :After looking at a sample of a music box. < 1338168637 960966 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would work better with music with less low notes. < 1338168650 356579 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I couldn't be bothered to look for more MIDI files < 1338168666 458577 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the max data size? < 1338168672 391168 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1338168678 687093 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that thing had 8kB of memory < 1338168690 925547 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah 8kb is too tight for a MOD < 1338168722 498162 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh actual samples would be much easier to play, you could play way more tracks < 1338168735 792947 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But an envelope means at least one true multiply per sample < 1338168747 473354 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, with samples you probably want volume < 1338168752 776636 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(True as in it cannot be optimized completely into a series of shifts and adds because both arguments are unknown) < 1338168770 112516 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah you can do decent music with a constant volume for each sample < 1338168772 273438 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pre-multiplied < 1338168773 726688 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though some old DOS software cheated and used a LUT for the volume :D < 1338168788 263382 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was still a 16k LUT tho < 1338168800 385795 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338168813 342159 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I could have LUTs for a couple of levels of volume I guess < 1338168814 882079 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lumpio: doesn't that multiply the amount of data you need very fast? < 1338168821 315587 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming 8-bit output one LUT is only 256b < 1338168835 935854 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some HW synths totally optimize out the multiply too < 1338168842 779543 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does that work < 1338168850 81610 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yamaha FM synths have no multipliers < 1338168858 25989 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't figure out how to do it without a true multiply < 1338168866 440854 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what they do is that they don't store sin(x) < 1338168873 911997 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they store log(sin(x)) < 1338168877 507914 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1338168879 890643 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and exp(x) < 1338168880 680094 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1338168883 273593 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooo < 1338168885 875526 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical! < 1338168887 69669 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it < 1338168898 217321 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know that might work < 1338168904 921069 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338168920 224866 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually now that I think of it I think I've heard of that before < 1338168943 559369 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for better emulation of the yamaha fm chips, someone actually de-encapsulated one and read the bits out of the LUT with a microscope < 1338169091 161947 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, imo will be a good start to jump to image processing and forget about audio for all the rest of his life, :) < 1338169116 966716 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah I remember seeing that < 1338169137 784680 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think the opl3 has a real multiplier instead of the logsin + exp thing < 1338169208 336775 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does an IDE which has a license saying you may only use it for "free" projects count as "free"? < 1338169225 213126 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not asking about EiffelStudio in particular, although that inspired the question) < 1338169317 123679 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rszeno: huh? < 1338169374 235465 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a chip ones was a simple one, i suspect a yamaha fm is more complicated < 1338169400 61766 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yamaha fm isn't that complicated < 1338169402 526229 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's smart :D < 1338169442 369037 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh now I have to try the log/exp thing out < 1338169475 792337 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially it has one oscillator and one enveloppe < 1338169484 215610 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and multiplexes the hell out of it :D < 1338169634 170563 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so most of the chip is taken up by registers actually < 1338169737 500959 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you generate multiple frequencies with a single oscillator? < 1338169831 549113 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :armonics? < 1338169859 161575 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 'oscillator' is a lookup table for sin(x) (or log(sin(x))) right? < 1338169865 127274 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338169870 896025 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lumpio: easy < 1338169874 881835 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for each sample you can have several internal clock cycles < 1338169882 998099 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and latch the output into a different register each time < 1338169905 33605 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you store the current phase for each oscillator in a different register < 1338169911 879151 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and current frequency too < 1338169932 469552 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :audio sample rate is way below any reasonable clock rate for logic, so this is a good tradeoff < 1338169955 829511 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for each oscillator, you read the phase, read the frequency, add together, store that back in the phase register < 1338169959 106866 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338169963 366586 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not actually just one oscillator < 1338169967 789847 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338169976 601180 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one look-up table with multiple oscillators built around it < 1338169982 237368 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's what I did with my thing. < 1338169988 313760 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need different phase registers < 1338169997 301689 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and different parameter registers of course < 1338170004 550280 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but all the processing logic is shared < 1338170063 642071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like the DSP or GPU to be able to do tiles, sprites, and video playback. 3D rendering is not important. < 1338170063 881731 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, read phase 1, read freq 1, add, write phase 1, process waveform 1, process volume 1, add to total register < 1338170077 823000 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, read phase 2, read freq 2, add, write phase 2, process waveform 2, process volume 2, add to total register < 1338170089 466692 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc, repeat for all the channels < 1338170104 73684 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then take the total register and write that to the DAC < 1338170136 324416 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo: I'm not sure hardware tiles are that useful :D < 1338170145 893784 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'Re easy to do tho < 1338170161 639313 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :video playback is different though < 1338170198 66962 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on if you'Re fine with paletted video essentially < 1338170203 497804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: It doesn't need the feature to do tiles built-in to the hardware! What I mean is, that it is capable of being programmed to do these things. < 1338170410 587595 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1338170493 912137 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the time you have a superscalar pipelined architecture and if you don't have too much pixels to fill, you can do that in software < 1338170501 779 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie pentium < 1338170560 410637 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially you need enough fillrate to fill the screen at least once per frame < 1338170656 565755 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then, aside from the transparency stuff (best SNES feature!), you can use smart code to fake any numbers of layers etc you like and limit overdraw < 1338170656 759893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For video playback it is OK if it requires the CPU and the GPU or DSP to work together < 1338170675 593555 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is paletted (256 color?) video ok? < 1338170688 666116 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it has to be some proper algo like mpeg? < 1338170697 102929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It has to be proper video such as Theora or Dirac. < 1338170732 915218 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then you need a beefy cpu < 1338170776 163306 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might need hardware FFT even < 1338170815 247019 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're jumping in the hundreads of mhz range < 1338170846 554681 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means all the 2d stuff will be totally fine and you've got so much cpu that you can just software mix the audio < 1338170874 657523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. The criteria are that it is not extremely expensive and does not require proprietary software to program it < 1338170876 230996 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want high resolution on the 2d (640x480 or more?) < 1338170894 74 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told you, the resolution should be enough for NTSC. < 1338170897 517509 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338170902 329327 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then 320x240 is enough < 1338170906 935246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just standard definition 4:3; no high definition is needed. < 1338170923 608567 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially you need an ARM system on a chip < 1338170946 231884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? ARM7? ARM11? < 1338170959 675502 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1338171007 640155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than the processors, hard drive, optical drive, connectors, etc, I intend to design the rest of the hardware myself such as what is connected and in what way, as well as most of the software too. < 1338171035 914311 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does decoding theora require floating point? < 1338171039 682861 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or dirac < 1338171065 741998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1338171119 854194 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need fast floating point that rules out arm11 I think < 1338171266 894336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I intend to design how the memory and that stuff is connected myself, in an attempt to prevent such things as DRM from being programmed in, as well as for other purposes too. Even if the ARM11 does not have fast floating point, whatever CPU is used if a GPU or DSP which is not tooo expensive and does not require proprietary software to use, can do some things the CPU doesn't, that might work too. < 1338171440 852618 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPUs tend to be proprietary < 1338171469 268764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that; but is there a DSP which would be sufficient for this purpose? < 1338171479 979134 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the raspberry pi I think you can't even write to the GPU in hardware, you have to boot in linux and use precompiled drivers < 1338171486 32212 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends < 1338171508 165151 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 3d, software rendering is reasonable at low resolutions with beefy processors < 1338171516 329847 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can live without bilinar filtering :D < 1338171570 8166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need 3D rendering; although surely someone will program it to make some (perhaps not particularly good quality) 3D rendering if they want to. < 1338171576 965975 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes SIMD stuff helps < 1338171685 622547 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338171756 171496 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah 3d hardware implementation details are jealously guarded these days as far as I can tell, a bit silly < 1338171918 330141 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338171934 540060 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338171968 513760 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus21 < 1338173055 917241 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338174351 481277 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PART :#esoteric < 1338174692 780467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1338175289 264756 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338177003 261046 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1338178255 397780 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338180559 305168 :jaba!~jaba@bas4-toronto21-1176475882.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338180644 772513 :jaba!~jaba@bas4-toronto21-1176475882.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1338180672 184390 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PART :#esoteric < 1338181750 836925 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1338183018 711852 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-131-250.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338183161 719157 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-192.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338183294 775198 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1338183426 218436 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-131-250.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338183717 179807 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-219.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338186923 837466 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338187201 663514 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PART :#esoteric < 1338187700 659591 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :poststructuralis < 1338187722 740766 :poststructuralis!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1338188548 185370 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338188623 574287 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338188853 941947 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338189586 210012 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338189642 255022 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: People's explanations of things in #haskell irritate me these days even though I can't pinpoint exactly why. < 1338189650 804921 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably just pull a kmc and leave. < 1338189700 208469 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1338189718 127179 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just stand up, put on shades, make some kind of witty parting remark < 1338189725 637009 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then casually flick a lit cigarette behind you as you leave < 1338189726 789227 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like ddarius? < 1338189730 111759 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :causing the whole place to go up in flames < 1338189734 571848 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:22 ddarius was last seen on #haskell 80 days, 5 hours, 14 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying: BMeph: No. < 1338189739 29965 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did ddarius have a witty parting remark < 1338189740 380670 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen kmc < 1338189740 649981 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1338189758 758346 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:22 kmc was last seen 3 seconds ago, saying: < 1338189769 784621 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh heh < 1338189773 407826 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause i just asked it in pm ;P < 1338189778 489370 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sploisprot. < 1338189780 181025 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was some boring quote from #git < 1338189781 882264 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry bro < 1338189788 81171 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brochaf < 1338189801 983659 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, bro. sbarro. < 1338189823 899052 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should've said the launch code to #haskell as you were leaving. < 1338189838 319236 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the launch code to #haskell is (repeat 0) < 1338189839 782545 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> repeat 0 < 1338189840 415154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,... < 1338189844 819293 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to type the whole thing, though < 1338189847 675013 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> last (repeat 0) < 1338189852 282382 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Terminated < 1338189904 307627 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess lambdabot doesn't compile with -O < 1338189913 84872 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> lаst (repeat 0) < 1338189914 885390 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1338190136 120668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> last $ map (flip showCReal pi) [1..] < 1338190140 339018 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1338190143 59275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1338190369 30151 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta sleep < 1338190372 567209 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all < 1338190978 158570 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338191029 750332 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1338191960 398709 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning europe! < 1338192181 205341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit late for a morning. < 1338192217 851981 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just woke up < 1338192219 565476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose English doesn't have a word for the time between morning and noon? < 1338192228 293753 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :late morning? < 1338192229 490703 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1338192246 650658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(late) morning" is how wiktionary translates the Finnish word for it. < 1338192256 950457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Aamupäivä", lit. "morningday".) < 1338192284 543972 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, no, because it's still morning. < 1338192287 159148 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've got something like beforenoon - "przedpołudnie" < 1338192308 154951 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean why would you need to granularise further? < 1338192311 331789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've got 'afternoon', I think they should have some sort of 'prenoon' or whatever. < 1338192317 878260 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338192325 525982 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called 'morning'. < 1338192331 503877 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and afternoon is "popołudnie" < 1338192345 746072 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning is a lot shorter than afternoon and evening together, which is why the latter are split. < 1338192368 21456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's unsymmetrical is what it is. < 1338192385 910315 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, but your waking hours aren't centred on noon. < 1338192432 840592 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-201-37.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338192435 701205 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-173-176.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338192465 247780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waking, schmaking. < 1338192596 825827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made the local program for Internet Quiz Engine. Currently it can only be used with local files and does not support uploading or downloading, although I might add those things later on. < 1338192675 240590 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338192676 800535 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338192689 224402 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.olleH < 1338192746 958330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program is written in Haskell but calls the C program, so you need the compiled C program as well. < 1338193369 704427 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-173-176.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338193404 427180 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-165-245.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338194195 192179 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338194460 698593 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338195099 435800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338195681 951038 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE FINAL COUNTDOWN WAS MADE BY SWEDES????????????? < 1338195683 975167 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH < 1338195729 196330 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1338195739 353009 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate swedes < 1338195740 654163 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much < 1338195750 965135 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except olsner but he was adopted < 1338196171 837963 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweden beat Lithuania in the Eurovision :/ < 1338196177 470097 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I likes Lithuania's entry < 1338196260 16638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweden beat everyone. < 1338196269 657339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :By quite a margin, too. < 1338196338 890464 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I watched it < 1338196361 549950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I "watched" it. By which I mean tried desperately not to fall asleep. < 1338196368 974274 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed a bit of Croatia's and Iceland's, and the second half was talked over by more people than the weird guy who talks over it on the TV < 1338196454 711780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norway managed to lose the most. Well, from those that made it to the finals, anyway. < 1338196471 92407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland was #12 in the first semifinal, they say. So it wasn't *that* far. < 1338196733 274239 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1338196761 540797 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338196825 257989 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did Englelbrert Humperdinck come? < 1338196869 512822 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second last < 1338196884 15575 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1338196917 960680 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The votes were annoyingly unpolitical in that Malta didn't vote for us < 1338197262 122381 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1338197464 264693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did get some points from Ireland, though. < 1338197473 690950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humperdick, sorry, -dinck got 5 from Estonia, 4 from Ireland, 2 from Latvia and 1 from Belgium. < 1338197572 763026 :Fishspill!~Fishspill@pool-74-106-45-34.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338197581 364965 :Fishspill!~Fishspill@pool-74-106-45-34.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1338197608 48267 :Fishspill!~Fishspill@pool-74-106-45-34.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net TOPIC #esoteric :It is 2012 and there is time to be the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment. http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1338197614 978790 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME Fishspill < 1338197624 50102 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FISHSPILL: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1338197642 890443 :Fishspill!~Fishspill@pool-74-106-45-34.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net TOPIC #esoteric :It is 2005 and there is time to be the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment. http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1338197666 934801 :Fishspill!~Fishspill@pool-74-106-45-34.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why hello there. < 1338197682 926597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the loudest welcome. < 1338197721 143353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, the uppercased URL (still?) no work. < 1338197727 477553 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow FISHSPILL: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1338197728 440736 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2F3I4S5H6S7P8I9L2L3:4 5W6E7L8C9O2M3E4 5T6O7 8T9H2E3 4I5N6T7E8R9N2A3T4I5O6N7A8L9 2H3U4B5 6F7O8R9 2E3S4O5T6E7R8I9C2 3P4R5O6G7R8A9M2M3I4N5G6 ... < 1338197783 710648 :Fishspill!~Fishspill@pool-74-106-45-34.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, what a welcome. With it being 2005 and all. < 1338197784 557548 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338197862 602195 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow THE YEAR OF LINUS TORVALDS ON THE DESKTOP < 1338197862 833461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The output length limit of that is somewhat sad; it only goes up to, well, not very many letters. < 1338197863 599026 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2T3H4E5 6Y7E8A9R2 3O4F5 6L7I8N9U2S3 4T5O6R7V8A9L2D3S4 5O6N7 8T9H2E3 4D5E6S7K8T9O2P < 1338197869 380589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[>,]<[<]>[[.>]<[<]>]!0123456789 < 1338197870 315786 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456 ... < 1338197895 199413 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dude, that's a fancy extension there. < 1338197900 903954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :200ish or so. < 1338197901 726796 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it just specify stdin? < 1338197924 716485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is where the , comes from. < 1338197938 154656 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I mean. < 1338197976 581862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you "^def foo bf bar", then "^foo baz" will be equivalent to "^bf bar!baz"; I think it might even be implemented like that. < 1338198030 706646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps not, since what's stored in the state file is the parsed and bytecode-compiled version. Anyway. < 1338198376 132427 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DD28.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338198466 138499 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338198555 566186 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1338199988 653498 :Fishspill!~Fishspill@pool-74-106-45-34.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338200801 725920 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338200836 963605 :rszeno!~rszeno@79.114.98.111 PART :#esoteric < 1338201502 596034 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338202225 201617 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338202996 863450 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DD28.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338204960 10661 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-224-124.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338205105 440471 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-165-245.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338205157 853087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1338205186 452372 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-243-172.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338205244 27375 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-224-124.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338205860 243575 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-243-172.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1338205866 430519 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-246-13.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338206866 11878 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm listening to a talk titled "Semitheoretical Computer Science - what has changed in 30 years". < 1338206919 141244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds slightly like the Diet Coke edition of computer science. < 1338207322 894982 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd taste awful < 1338207453 478327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No sugar! < 1338207722 308226 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-152-198.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338207723 436127 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-224.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338208975 107222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a somewhat rambling presntation. < 1338209566 471035 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1338210264 206098 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah should I make a github account < 1338210268 270708 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going with probably not < 1338210688 905690 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, so what has changed in 30 years? < 1338211764 701708 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1338212203 532078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Uh, apparently we've become responsible. < 1338212211 787546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what he said, anyway. < 1338212228 824892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We" being computer scientists. < 1338212276 929675 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you werent responsible 30 years ago? < 1338212615 607231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338212704 343254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. < 1338212714 79221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Respectable, I was going to say. < 1338212720 201187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or supposed to say. < 1338212739 588331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm technically presenting a poster here. < 1338212769 441097 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :techically? < 1338212773 649607 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338212807 488842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm just IRCing at the moment, am I not? < 1338212839 32558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll make a quick walkaround. < 1338213103 348569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1338213603 97471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is "print to PDF" in a PDF reader a plausible way to extract individual pages from a PDF file? < 1338213937 155555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338213937 693890 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 7 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338213941 360732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338214243 436656 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello elliott < 1338214446 564224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: pdftk is one quite plausible way. But purely practically speaking that might also be. < 1338214809 575164 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338214852 987876 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338215182 787671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:55:58: I've come to see Arduinos as a representation of the new hipster electronics generation < 1338215191 275806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone remember when "hipster" actually meant something (even if it was a stupid meaning) < 1338215254 73146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:24:00: Are there good alternatives if I want to write proprietary programs in Eiffel? < 1338215258 447517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really don't want to know the background to this < 1338215281 249968 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a bizarre sudden fascination with Eiffel < 1338215289 73527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you hate me < 1338215379 640286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you pause irc for five hours please < 1338215409 503098 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why < 1338215421 704569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to watch monqy win a 0-rune mummystabbing spst of chei < 1338215428 280579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the recording is 5 hours < 1338215484 608308 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win 0-rune? < 1338215536 215357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: runes used to be real items < 1338215538 256419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could just drop them < 1338215541 593565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and win with less than 3 runes < 1338215546 318027 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1338215549 974643 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This bizarre Let's Play Roguelikes fetish you've developed recently is weirding me out. < 1338215550 241993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but dtsund pulled in the patch to goldify them < 1338215555 643509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that won't work as soon as the server is updated < 1338215560 313428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was a race to win a 0-runer before that happened < 1338215565 819994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: totally < 1338215572 589674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i just started playing crawl because monqy told me to < 1338215581 829747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i ended up writing a huge patch to light, oops < 1338215591 459861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i can't go back or i'll realise how much of my life i'm wasting < 1338215606 764570 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods sagely. < 1338215672 700270 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can't find a torrent for the latest episode of Game of Thrones, I am very worried. < 1338215703 458273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Anyway I've always liked roguelikes, I've just been too lazy to actually play them. < 1338215713 69802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't ignore monqy's demands. < 1338215730 394623 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you give up on Nethack after you lost a save because of its anti-scumming measures. < 1338215752 248428 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My exact phrasing, "Let's Play Roguelikes" wasn't an accident, the weird part is recording yourselves and passing around recordings X-D < 1338215757 699170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, I was just annoyed with it for a day or two. < 1338215761 895189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The servers automatically record them. < 1338215778 723194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And there's scripts to play amusing deaths/etc. on a termcast TV thing. < 1338215800 34175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Also you can spectate live. I don't actually download and watch entire games unless they're monqy doing ridiculous things, that would be weird :P < 1338215818 145644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a mummystabbing SpSt of chei is definitely stupid enough to watch 5 hours of. < 1338215821 64612 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmm < 1338215858 940035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: At least I don't watch and pass around recordings of My Little Pony! < 1338215860 885426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q.E.D. < 1338215877 10066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OR DO I????) < 1338215878 404662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No.) < 1338215886 82613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I watch it live, obviously. (I don't actually.)) < 1338215888 31832 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION huffs. < 1338215903 397784 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL THEN. *goes back to writing erotic #esoteric fanfics* < 1338215909 684555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338215961 503177 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we see a sample of that. < 1338215978 487826 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ais has left because he's too much of a prude.) < 1338216012 576418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338216015 224527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've already seen enough. < 1338216017 575422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time it involved me. < 1338216025 174257 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget who else it involved. < 1338216027 466638 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy? < 1338216041 87346 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is not comfortable with his BURNING PASSIONS < 1338216046 89560 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338216155 955796 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott and asiekierka! < 1338216160 167749 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonowait, it was oklopol. < 1338216160 362169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338216163 720185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1338216167 123967 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338216175 404225 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it involve a bath of sprite and/or coke < 1338216176 473646 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you even have a life to waste? < 1338216182 894982 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [o]klopol wasn't usually nude < 1338216187 336274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No. But I'm doing my darndest anyway. < 1338216195 947991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote `log [o]klopol wasn't usually nude < 1338216202 490509 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :846) `log [o]klopol wasn't usually nude < 1338216208 710156 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1338216217 6627 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338216224 155909 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I misremembered the quote to boot. < 1338216240 169144 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log klopol.*nude < 1338216255 258932 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-05-28.txt:14:43:02: `log [o]klopol wasn't usually nude < 1338216258 391761 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338216264 750651 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log klopol.*naked < 1338216270 898228 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-05-29.txt:10:50:16: i don't like carrying stuff in my pockets either so really i'd just prefer being naked and carrying whatever i need in my hands < 1338216274 980557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Protip: `pastlog. < 1338216285 827808 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-05-09.txt:23:34:50: He sat, nonchalantly, one finger running unthinkingly but tantalizingly up and down his strong, toned thigh. It wasn't unusual for oklopol to be here, waiting for elliott's arrival, but something was different today. oklopol was not typically nude. < 1338216305 69419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure oklopol is, in fact, typically nude. < 1338216325 643873 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oklopol Usually nude confirm/deny < 1338216325 972526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338216352 791196 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, deserves a Bulwer-Lytton. < 1338216362 366805 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously it is too shit for the Lyttle Lytton though. < 1338216644 964531 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338218666 349328 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how should zzo38's deadfish implementation for dc work? < 1338218825 516414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm, the satisfaction of seeing a stupid answer self-deleted. < 1338219003 840629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :always a great supervisor meeting when you get to define 2 < 1338219020 865801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my supervisor wasn't convinced that I+I was always equal to 2*I < 1338219032 443732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I pointed out that it was correct with the only reasonable definition of 2, even if the things you were dealing with weren't integers < 1338219046 216352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1338219138 317576 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, should've proven it from the ring axioms. < 1338219143 692776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I did < 1338219150 544692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we're dealing with semirings, not rings < 1338219156 937318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the same axioms still apply < 1338219239 317930 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338219307 740272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more worried that your supervisor thought that a+a might not be 2*a without even giving a definition of 2. < 1338219401 670421 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-149-94.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338219410 368697 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-152-198.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338219418 97868 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338219487 143343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523_ < 1338219512 687633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338219514 699201 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1338219526 939854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, my commands were interpreted out of order < 1338219552 522111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sent the /ns ghost before the /nick, but the /nick errored out before the ghost worked < 1338219620 244168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! another problem i can blame on imperative style! < 1338219845 617291 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would non-imperative style do < 1338219859 685290 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional style IRC? < 1338219867 641377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not have that problem < 1338219889 39482 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(right? (you kidding)) < 1338219917 897575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not kidding, but "functional" is incorrect < 1338219952 584901 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :alliot < 1338219957 361775 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliotian < 1338220010 851536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338220237 396917 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-246-13.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338220256 532600 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-246-13.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338220601 848875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fwiw: define 2 as 1+1, now I+I = (I*1)+(I*1) = I*(1+1) = I*2 = 2*I) < 1338221364 495217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1338221484 836769 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no, it was made by europe < 1338222176 632917 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338222363 899562 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338222375 869287 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1338222504 419982 :azaq23!~derivecto@HSI-KBW-37-49-5-105.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1338222512 683763 :azaq23!~derivecto@HSI-KBW-37-49-5-105.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Changing host < 1338222512 878596 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338222578 940071 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338222619 657376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :helo < 1338223064 905811 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338225748 354547 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodbye < 1338225749 706508 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338225762 628122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :godby < 1338225825 59788 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebye < 1338226005 936252 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you see my pun about the final countdown? < 1338226011 381365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338226019 440281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i saw the pun < 1338226022 442961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not what it was in reply to < 1338226039 939985 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :" THE FINAL COUNTDOWN WAS MADE BY SWEDES?????????????" < 1338226362 609604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338226626 700918 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-71.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338226640 356758 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-149-94.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338227606 921633 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338227648 4412 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338227812 772504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338228099 601536 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-106.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1338228989 232158 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :source materials.gcf/hl2/materials/matsys_regressiontest/background.vtf http://i.imgur.com/HwK3D.png < 1338229023 582898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cat < 1338229178 422265 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338229247 137013 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1338229247 406244 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 4 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338229257 955571 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338230164 347712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: Scottish nationalists object to the term "Queen Elizabeth II" as it implies that there was a Queen Elizabeth I < 1338230171 746311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, some of them < 1338230434 535562 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-106.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338230856 887070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you hate "miss" that much? < 1338231060 14913 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what does your deadfish implememtstion in dc require from dc imppementation? I couldn't get it to work with my dc < 1338231216 675432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is GNU dc < 1338231243 819929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although maybe it could be modified to work with another one < 1338231312 169988 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... I use V7 dc < 1338231327 94031 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*6 < 1338231767 519653 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To exit, use `q' . C-c does not exit; it is used to abort macros that are looping, etc. (Currently this is not true; C-c does exit.)" GNU dc manual page < 1338231915 483432 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, looks like Minecraft's development is going ahead full-steam now Jeb and the Bukkit team are working on it. < 1338231922 125790 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost wish I hadn't tired of it. < 1338231932 630372 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, s/almost// < 1338232284 919941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there library for gopher and HTTP POST in Haskell? (People in #haskell channel answered the second part) < 1338232317 261219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: s/I /I / < 1338232375 742131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if there isn't, you could write one < 1338232390 816253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How? I tried, but it doesn't work. < 1338232406 94226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: same way as you write a library in any other language < 1338232455 566782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he tried, but it doesn't work < 1338232480 971436 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written libraries in Haskell before, but I cannot get it to work with gopher < 1338232973 376237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "The survey tested respondents’ knowledge of cookies, asking them to confirm if a number of statements about cookies were correct or not. Ou tof the sixteen statements only one was answered correctly by th emajority of respondents." < 1338233039 280771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it? "The cookie monster eats cookies"? < 1338233045 603160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't say < 1338233054 306393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping it'll say later, this is a 31-page document < 1338233063 535878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about how to comply with the new UK laws about cookies < 1338233087 356920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this reminds me, your login screen should probably contain a note that logging in will set a cookie to record the fact that you're logged in < 1338233104 726308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, do anons get cookies set too? < 1338233104 921203 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should it? < 1338233109 604970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: new UK laws about cookies < 1338233109 875052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll wait for mediawiki to implement that < 1338233113 281882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt the law will stand < 1338233118 571303 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the wiki hosted in the UK though? < 1338233122 476597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338233123 735136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1338233126 493961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter, though < 1338233129 568359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in the uk < 1338233133 6285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm probably liable anyway < 1338233163 384783 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think sweden has the same silly cookies law < 1338233178 307446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole of the EU does, it's an EU-wide law that's being implemented by the individual member companies < 1338233204 490389 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338233213 647060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't personally find it silly, partly because I have all cookies on manual approval atm (apart from a few websites I use a lot and are set to always-approve, and some that use so many I had to set them to always-disaprove because I was bored of clicking through notifications) < 1338233223 513459 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-219.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338233227 175147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that reduces the number of approvals I need would be nice < 1338233237 993291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:25] i just installed kde < 1338233239 387760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:25] what the FUCK < 1338233240 988955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this could be fun :) < 1338233241 887805 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the decision to accept cookies or not has always been on the client side anyway < 1338233255 454760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but browsers accept them by default < 1338233279 668755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the EU have been campaigning against anticompetitive or privacy-breaking defaults < 1338233281 30944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that isn't the government's job to fix < 1338233322 340980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be good for them to campaign against anticompetitive or privacy-breaking defaults, but still, that doesn't mean they have to fix it by making a law against it < 1338233323 825176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think you'll find it is the job to fix anticompetitive and privacy-breaking behaviour by corporations. < 1338233329 514554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*job of the government < 1338233337 318900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been suggested that the fact that a visitor has arrived at a webpag eshould be sufficient evidence that they consent to cookies being set o rinformation being accessed on their device. The key here is that the visito rshould understand that this is the case. It is important to note that it would b eextremely difficult to demonstrate compliance simply by showing that a use rvisited a particular site or was served a particular advertisement < 1338233338 822299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it coul dalso be demonstrated that they were aware this would result in cookies bein gset. < 1338233339 16711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, regulating corporations is pretty much the definition of the convernment's job in a capitalist society. < 1338233344 697420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*government's < 1338233351 24458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, the government should tell the people who install those browsers by default to fix it < 1338233361 963529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since they are the ones needed fixing < 1338233363 294317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The government tells people to do things by passing laws. < 1338233389 175702 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-219.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338233401 484269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't the job of the server to change the settings on the client < 1338233432 282487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I approve of the anti-cookie law partly because the same reasoning's being used on EULAs < 1338233440 342386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that people just click through EULAs without reading them, thus they have no legal force) < 1338233517 524079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, yes, the government should tell the people who sell computers to change those settings < 1338233543 370415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if they refuse they have to put a warning label on the box < 1338233546 857742 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-151-80.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338233558 538085 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-71.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338233587 758355 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Full ack. < 1338233608 454191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're /probably/ OK if it's just session cookies, not analytics < 1338233618 658722 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the browser manufacturers job. < 1338233638 938014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I break the law pretty frequently anyway < 1338233652 71354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: well, it's not like browser managers can make all cookies prompt-by-default reasonably < 1338233659 433602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ouch, seriously? < 1338233665 335257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1338233666 277936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty rare for me to intentionally break it < 1338233668 709229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1338233674 474575 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: True. < 1338233682 333352 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I think no browser vendor wants to be the first with the "confusing popup with lots of confusing settings" box that will have to pop up for every page load < 1338233685 325241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it'd just make everyone use outlaw browsers :P < 1338233687 48425 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes it also the governments job, sadly. < 1338233698 213569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: more importantly, very few browsers are UK-based < 1338233705 388887 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it is responsible for the safety of its citizens. < 1338233717 219755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I don't object to the privay-based intent < 1338233721 307126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the execution is a little problematic < 1338233723 817087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too technological < 1338233754 281855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should not be the browser manufacturer's job; it is the computer manufacturer's job to change the settings before selling the computer, or including a warning label on the computer. < 1338233771 545000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, that would accomplish precisely nothing < 1338233774 227267 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning labels are useless. < 1338233784 840738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because everyone would just ignore the label, or download a browser as soon as they get it < 1338233818 584479 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browsers are in a very good position to make demands actually. < 1338233824 191542 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Websites have to work with browsers. < 1338233846 636471 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do also the other way, but that must not be. < 1338233879 732813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's already the browserchoice thing, which requires the default browser on Windows to be a menu presenting the five most popular Windows browsers in random order and asking the user to choose one < 1338233897 184945 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the websites have to work with IE6 and the other browsers have to work with those websites :) < 1338233899 622195 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like firefox or opera? < 1338233905 676640 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They both suck at security. < 1338233925 939823 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :opera is best for security!!1 < 1338233928 871027 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: what is secure briwser then? < 1338233940 887091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: well, browsers are not really in a good position to make demands < 1338233941 727396 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that allows nothing per default. < 1338233947 844065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you make a demand that inconveniences users < 1338233951 637164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the users will use another browser < 1338233952 311926 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And requires the user to load whitelists. < 1338233979 722131 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are configfiles. < 1338233997 103661 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which say when browsing on what page, what the browser is allowed to do. < 1338234045 473311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes that way would work. < 1338234214 216917 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/sfsarUbh < 1338234218 700194 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- I want something like that. < 1338234240 98596 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tab isolation. < 1338234244 85219 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMPLETE tab isolation. < 1338234260 327761 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because I'm logged in on somesite doesn't mean that I should be logged in in any other tab. < 1338234281 696402 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if I want that, I would somehow tell my browser that (through such a configuration file) < 1338234290 163043 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use opera mini then, keep all your tabs on iceland :> < 1338234310 13335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like things like that too; be able to configure settings for each domain or even separate for subdomains whether inherit or not, and path and filenames too. < 1338234338 137526 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: complete tab isolation=each tab runs on its own machine? < 1338234352 465144 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: Each tab has its own "browser context" < 1338234365 912531 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like its a different browser < 1338234372 219492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps the UK government should sell computers that do not have any web browser program < 1338234372 414316 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means < 1338234377 468045 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no cookie sharing between tabs < 1338234380 853461 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatsoever. < 1338234416 982961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I do agree it would be a good idea that you can have multiple sessions without cookie sharing. < 1338234435 820861 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want browsers to only work with such configuration files < 1338234445 163209 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which deny almost everything by default. < 1338234473 282188 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And siteowners may provide such a file < 1338234485 857391 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like robots.txt or some mechanism like that) < 1338234507 297496 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The user then can view it, accept and adjust it. < 1338234529 486357 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll just say "for the best experience, please enable all features", and obviously most sites will be made so that nothing works unless you do exactly that < 1338234552 693488 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1338234562 36238 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1338234571 279228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What they should do is discourage HTTP and HTML < 1338234580 729158 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The user accepted it. < 1338234595 39325 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1338234602 753472 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it will make your system suck (as in, give extra useless prompts) for everyone except the paranoid, and 99.99% of users are not paranoid < 1338234609 451702 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he had the chance to tell the browser EXACTLY what to do. < 1338234642 569194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"this is stupid" < 1338234648 323450 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338234661 645111 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know your town < 1338234662 729024 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PART #esoteric :"nooo come back" < 1338234667 632579 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you're not paranoid < 1338234677 924521 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are certain areas or streets you avoid. < 1338234680 755257 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a good reason. < 1338234689 675475 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not adopt that behaviour to the internet. < 1338234709 265524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : they'll just say "for the best experience, please enable all features", and obviously most sites will be made so that nothing works unless you do exactly that <-- I have now found /two/ sites that cover the entire screen with a