< 1338681619 41966 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A18D.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338681752 311512 :george97!~george4li@41-184-84-250.rv.ipnxtelecoms.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338682430 814243 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338682791 620833 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :readFile' = readFile >=> liftA2 seq (length :: String -> Int) return; -- It appears to work?? < 1338682926 728099 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338682927 632169 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338682986 607123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338683003 38957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338683011 384157 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-254-13.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338683018 188009 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1338683194 676886 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-227.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338683847 846891 :george97!~george4li@41-184-84-250.rv.ipnxtelecoms.com PART :#esoteric < 1338684207 56133 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338684237 438146 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338684383 881936 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338684585 221536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338684749 586155 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338684754 981732 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using C++11 to write a program, and I'm using the new constructor inheritance feature. The base class is Brainfuck, and the derived class is Brainfuck_X1. Problem is, when I call "using Brainfuck::Brainfuck", my compiler gives me the error "Brainfuck::Brainfuck names constructor". Any tips? < 1338684800 220294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1338685092 106631 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1338685122 722083 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338685289 505058 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338685293 293910 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338686554 711783 :BlueProtoman!~Jesse@cpe-66-108-84-125.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338687334 458298 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338689362 947240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1338689700 469037 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338689731 157532 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338690729 358254 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338692812 125807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1338694425 116712 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338694428 293838 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338698027 744923 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338698423 69696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... GUI: Grab the User In-the-face < 1338699038 251717 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338700413 193563 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1338700725 210749 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338701514 114497 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338701904 231033 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338702767 251730 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338704427 49386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can read this, thank your teachers. < 1338704503 65478 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-254-13.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :それを読めば、だれに有難いか。 < 1338704583 501262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can read this, you aren't blind. < 1338704629 387083 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338704644 917805 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-254-13.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sore wo yomeba, dare in arigatai ka?)[sore wo yomehà, tàre ni arikàtai ka?] (If you can read this, who should you be thankful towards?) < 1338704650 177724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless you used a braille terminal or computer speech or whatever) < 1338704651 899141 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338705407 296663 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you call functions that take 2 inputs? < 1338705425 964272 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338705427 64184 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338705453 578101 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary functions? < 1338705528 919311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dyadic. < 1338705858 367873 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I can't find an example of reSigned differing from transInt < 1338706036 321381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Should I resent my teachers if I can't read that? < 1338706423 766258 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338706438 691283 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338707163 574663 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338707164 490166 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338707204 519787 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a:/ < 1338707204 701272 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1338707208 558952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Sorry I may have made a mistake; I put it there for the different ways range errors would happen but I don't know if they would cause the same range error? < 1338707234 666287 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is your choice. < 1338707291 603566 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you make money? < 1338707329 64645 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :transInt (255 :: Word8) :: Int8 == reSigned (255 :: Word8) :: Int8 < 1338707338 44032 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :== -1 < 1338707360 383316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: O, so that works. Then there is no reason for both; I may remove reSigned < 1338707363 89472 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :transInt (-128 :: Int8) :: Word8 == reSigned (-128 :: Int8) :: Word8 == 128 < 1338707390 321374 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338707425 721416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I sometimes get money from government and sometimes I do individual job for someone to earn money or barter < 1338707450 282520 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you use BTC < 1338707463 260303 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does BTC mean? < 1338707471 954436 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin < 1338707480 294670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Don't bother reSigned; just use transInt and I will remove reSigned in the next version < 1338707484 56656 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1338707503 556895 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At some point I need to move all my documentation to the newest version, I'm writing it in 2.0 < 1338707525 501293 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, I don't use that. < 1338707544 201462 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338707547 652165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I will just merge it with whatever changes I make and release that < 1338707568 211212 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll move it to 3.1 first < 1338707577 248687 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1338707578 938513 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you explain what getBits does to me? < 1338707594 157302 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather, can you explain, to me, what getBits does? < 1338707856 977212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Receive the range of bits by high and low specification. < 1338708055 174030 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, breakfast < 1338708062 584336 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb|Away < 1338708074 496189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :getBits 3 4 to retrieve low 4 bits, getBits 7 4 to retrieve the next 4 bits after lowest one, etc. < 1338708431 326690 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338708564 436836 :Taneb|Away!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1338708568 189027 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay < 1338709024 82896 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338709052 841613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will sleep now. Continue to write your question/comment I will review the logs tomorrow. < 1338709058 659745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: OK. I sleep now < 1338709064 38129 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1338709779 301790 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 skyscraper sits there with the enemy doing a fake triplock for hundreds of cycles. sure that is ample opportunity to guess polarity and put the last decoys in the direction that costs them the most time? < 1338709779 547553 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338711858 734006 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338711870 192560 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338712384 287238 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338712815 711515 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338712826 987930 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338713490 735678 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1338714212 159941 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-200.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338714418 130575 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-254-13.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338714735 38470 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-200.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338714816 823534 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-200.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338715653 853943 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338715664 312121 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338715864 315042 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338715891 675916 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-238-15.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338716614 226331 :Alheris!~alheris@82.113.121.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338717448 571413 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338717460 148283 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338718120 866733 :Alheris!~alheris@82.113.121.22 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338718244 874770 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338718304 175027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lali-ho. < 1338718315 130281 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dafug < 1338718334 984262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarves say "Lali-ho!". < 1338718585 976719 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff4? < 1338718594 625613 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^_^ < 1338718603 418589 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-143-137.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338718612 664724 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-200.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338718621 968372 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust someone with a final fantasy id to understand a final fantasy reference! < 1338718683 38409 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who has a final fantasy if? < 1338718687 780439 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game of chat trivia isn't as fun when nearly all facts can be obtained from google < 1338718690 201613 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1338718708 96968 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google tidus < 1338718709 764791 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidus < 1338718709 983343 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Tidus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1338718796 862481 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the words final fantasy appears four times in the first paragrah on that page! < 1338719407 91408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FF4 is what I was thinking of, yes, though I am under the impression it's been at least in one of the earlier games, at least in the Japanese text. And in FF9 they say "Rally-Ho". < 1338719470 995724 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338719479 297028 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338719479 370349 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1338719479 370506 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338719484 297016 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338719638 25603 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In reality I'm not very clued in about final fantasy games. < 1338719664 228107 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If 100 is the maximum one can know about final fantasy games, I suppose I'm a 3. < 1338719685 339075 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1338719692 725842 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean.. a 0.3 :-s < 1338719726 716615 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can measure that by taking the Official Final Fantasy Examination. (Okay, not really.) < 1338719731 767506 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i'm 0.0001 < 1338719749 755918 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1338719762 567572 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends how accurate my statement is < 1338719791 363297 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately from a certain point of view a human can only have an infinitessimally small knowledge of final fantasy < 1338719803 731042 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like one cannot know everything about chess < 1338719803 896555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Square-Enix should arrange some sort of a thing where you go to a room in their offices and take a monitored multiple-choice test. < 1338719866 415356 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, part of the knowledge would be the ability to sit in a room with no information other than whats in your head, and write a complete source code to every final fantasy game ever made < 1338719885 108706 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including all graphics and sounds < 1338719916 815216 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all regions < 1338719960 836834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an officially licensed energy drink called "Final Fantasy Potion" that was released as part of the marketing of FFXII. < 1338719984 312731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "an herb-drink containing such ingredients as royal jelly, propolis extract, elderberry, chamomile, sage, thyme, hyssop, fennel, marjoram, rosemary, basil, Melissa, carbonated water, caffeine, and artificial coloring. The drink had a unique taste; it was very sweet, but at the same time possessed a bitter herbal aftertaste." < 1338720004 65764 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1338720014 751254 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1338720075 217271 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the same is true of every game though (as what I just said) < 1338720087 485145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see they've also made a FFVII themed version of Potion for that game's 10-year anniversary. < 1338720114 694005 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, a game such as Super Mario Bros.. it would actually be concievable that someone could memorize how to code a replica of that game with complete graphics < 1338720140 416649 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not completely perfectly though < 1338720159 919141 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. all the bugs wouldn't be there < 1338720161 402484 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it was a savant... then god only knows what is possible < 1338720227 857598 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(begins wandering off the topic path...) < 1338720284 314796 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well having said that I understand that with project MKULTRA they studied whether they could hypnotize people into memorizing documents after briefly viewing them, and recalling the contents < 1338720708 690221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMB1 rom is I think 256kbit, so about 79000 decimal digits when represented in that base; digits of pi have been memorized approximately that far. (Guinness record 67890 digits, some reports for 100000, and one guy claims 30 million digits, but obviously didn't list them all; they just asked for random sequences, so it might be a bit dubious.) < 1338720732 975948 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh < 1338720742 732984 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hummmm < 1338720798 777852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Anyway, there might be large amounts of easier-to-remember material in there.) < 1338720859 884513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long time to type it all down, though. < 1338720915 981487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It apparently took the Guinness record holder a bit over 24 hours to recite the 67890 digits. < 1338721045 403858 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this version of smb1 is 40,976 bytes < 1338721077 421524 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how they figure that :P < 1338721104 321811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's a bit more than 256kbit, but maybe it's just the format. Anyway, same ballpark. < 1338721127 137249 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. i should look up a more authoritative source < 1338721305 590953 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh.. this website says it's a 320-kilobit cartridge < 1338721313 229194 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-187.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338721328 318756 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-143-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338721346 673789 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the game of chat trivia isn't as fun when nearly all facts can be obtained from google" < 1338721365 759098 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via google, rather < 1338721390 855592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hokay. Well, then. At least it's not orders of magnitude more. (I couldn't find the size very fast, so gave up.) < 1338721499 601249 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one go about calculating the number of decimal digits based on the number of kilobits? < 1338721516 171066 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should solve this myself < 1338721522 270740 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit of math work < 1338721555 928801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Divide the bits by log_2(10). < 1338721569 667436 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah i was about to say that.. < 1338721667 874929 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently about 96000 < 1338721759 914076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^n = 2^(log_2(10)*n/log_2(10)) = (2^log_2(10))^(n/log_2(10)) = 10^(n/log_2(10)) to be explicit about it. < 1338721922 408351 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so math is useful for something other than torturing children after all < 1338721952 121910 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-118-135.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338721980 681725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Gameboy Super Mario Land is apparently a 512-kilobit thing, that's kinda funny. It's got less levels and colors and all that. < 1338722009 164941 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's the tidus-fizzie number.. the number of decimal digits required to memorize a complete nintendo game < 1338722056 498263 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose, that, it's probably been independantly discovered somewhere out there < 1338722133 23546 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-238-15.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338722205 876428 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DE26.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338722229 233116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, that Mario wiki doesn't list cartridge size for the non-Super Mario Bros game, or the NES Donkey Kong port. But I wouldn't be surprised if they were smaller. < 1338722234 392708 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rom file seems to contain 327,808 bits < 1338722274 809137 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however that is the EU version < 1338722398 949207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :327680 is what 320 kibibits is, the leftover 16 bytes coud be just headers. < 1338722428 966750 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1338722559 227218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to IGN's list, Duck Hunt came on a 192 kilobit cartridge. That's less than 60k decimal digits, even the lame Guinness pi guy could do that. < 1338722573 897520 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :donkey kong is 196736 bits ya < 1338722588 815770 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so donkey kong and duckhunt same < 1338722643 993217 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(24,592kb * 8) / 1024 = 192.125 kilobit cart < 1338722696 233904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :24592kb? That's quite a lot. < 1338722746 536601 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew.. ((24592 * 8)-128) / 1024 = 192 < 1338722753 476733 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty stephen wolfram < 1338722777 704937 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338722784 960879 :nathan_!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338722787 26833 :nathan_!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338722793 958595 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1338722797 269837 :nathan_!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1338722810 423354 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what happens when you try a new client without closing your old one < 1338722815 594315 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338722822 691048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a confusing join sequence. < 1338722822 892622 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather, :( < 1338722826 81734 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1338722835 690350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now your NAME is KNOWN. < 1338722844 187493 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1338722863 775770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least someone's name. < 1338722865 762552 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR COMPUTER IS BROADCASTING A NAME < 1338722871 624494 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name... was already known by most of the channel? < 1338722884 712527 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: Also, anyone who runs /whois. :-) < 1338722887 839813 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is elliott's, for that matter < 1338722888 286781 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-118-135.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338722896 269774 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Gregor's < 1338722897 537051 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. elliott’s real name is Eliot. < 1338722907 93347 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeliot < 1338722927 722934 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok my name is Scott .. now that it is read it cannot be unread < 1338722946 764993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill eel-liot. < 1338722970 30356 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :illiot < 1338722991 3342 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, the biggest nes rom putting aside action52 turns out to be a game i have never heard of name Metal Slader Glory < 1338723003 590671 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does sound exciting.. < 1338723027 988752 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well when i say biggest that is in terms of compressed < 1338723042 639954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read that as "Metal Slander Glory", that sounded even more exciting. < 1338723062 202926 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metal Libel and Slander Glory. < 1338723068 431884 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is.. 8 megabits! < 1338723122 153692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inconceivable. < 1338723145 921861 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :god... what could it be.. how could it go under the radar < 1338723191 319280 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's japan only < 1338723201 757082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it has a lot of pictures < 1338723217 677494 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of slideshow game < 1338723223 457487 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1338723256 986594 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it took so long to develope... < 1338723265 646351 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That when it was released, the SNES was out < 1338723327 856797 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone tell me if it is possible to run more than one application from a single terminal at once, and tab between them or something? < 1338723418 758977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Maximum manufactured ROM Size < 1338723418 832014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The largest single NES game that I know of is Dragonquest 4 / Dragon Warrior 4. It has 1 megabyte of program ROM. Also, the Japanese game Metal Slader Glory has 512K of PRG and 512K of CHR ROM, making it also a full megabyte. Several pirate/unlicenced Famicom games are also pretty large. < 1338723424 174407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minimum manufactured ROM Size < 1338723426 756548 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the .NES fileformat deems 16K PRG ROM games as the minimum, there have been some 8K games manufactured, such as Galaxian. Later on, skilled programmers have learned to squeeze better code into even less memory, but nowadays most are probably dead. < 1338723432 339737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From http://nocash.emubase.de/everynes.htm#cartridgeinfo < 1338723495 491040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Why not just run screen/some screen-alike? < 1338723525 391515 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux or whatnot. < 1338723534 370949 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1338723585 280247 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338723586 295235 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338723620 617421 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, thanks < 1338723641 138552 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm seeing if I can survive without a GUI < 1338724182 498682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1338724198 882480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone remind me how MOOs do pronouns. (That is, the specific list of words they decompose a pronoun set into.) < 1338724225 399816 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1338724231 313498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Here, I nominate you. < 1338724252 467540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:28:47: ok my name is Scott .. now that it is read it cannot be unread < 1338724256 541507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Nnnno. It's itidus. < 1338724728 277696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about cow pronouns. < 1338724810 691413 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the mutated cow special encounter in Fallout. < 1338725006 196402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hey, what would you call the abstraction of hit points to things other than hits? "Points" is too vague. < 1338725025 610257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is, (m,n) where m <= n, m being current ?P and n being maximum ?P.) < 1338725142 564868 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338725154 194164 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338725189 821292 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. I don't know. Something about a bound, maybe, since that's what it has, but I don't know. GP for Generic Points. (Not really.) < 1338725234 484342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The exact case here is < 1338725236 413667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data MonsterStats = MonsterStats < 1338725236 578637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : { monHP :: !Points < 1338725236 651009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : , monMP :: !Points < 1338725238 518000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1338725240 563012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1338725807 253456 :Alheris!~alheris@89.204.155.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338725824 602077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Alheris < 1338725827 708936 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alheris: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338725875 54420 :Alheris!~alheris@89.204.155.131 PART :#esoteric < 1338725887 284908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1338725934 243616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are good at that. < 1338725957 787302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338726025 776954 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338726038 186545 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338727851 837127 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ps < 1338727863 275424 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1338727904 41539 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data MonsterStats = MonsterStats{ monHP :: !P, monMP :: !P } < 1338727960 237648 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :P being short for Points < 1338728154 367808 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol "In games, score refers to an abstract quantity associated with a player or team. Score is usually measured in the abstract unit of points, and events in the game can raise or lower the score of different parties." < 1338728238 229239 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gaming) A unit of scoring in a game or competition. [from 18th c.] < 1338728525 717499 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning "a unit of score in a game" is first recorded 1746. < 1338728670 148526 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338728680 738870 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338728866 581818 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exact quote appears to be: < 1338728866 943054 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :���1746 Hoyle Whist (ed. 6) 69 Points. Ten of them make a Game. < 1338728879 965649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1338728880 374786 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1338728949 476851 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah .. this fool didn't do his research very well < 1338729027 428420 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe the research is ok.. however.. < 1338729032 889846 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't explain: < 1338729036 481603 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1719 R. Seymour Court Gamester 75 He who reckons most in this Manner [either by greater number of cards, or, in case of equality, of Pips, Ace = 11, Court cards 10 each] is said to win the Point. < 1338729244 543161 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The salient feature of a story, discourse, epigram, joke, etc.; that which gives it application; effective or telling part." ok, just get to the point < 1338730001 530057 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-51.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338730028 235691 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-187.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338730692 783292 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-139-202.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338730883 297837 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338730998 419417 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-139-202.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1338731048 179597 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338731249 81119 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338731783 812487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A pecularity of the inPulse watch is that it has one button. Fortunately, roguelikes are turn-based, so by entering commands in morse code one can gain the advantage of the whole keyboard." < 1338731786 176264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How... fortunate. < 1338731959 52975 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verily. < 1338732252 487253 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338732257 241762 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338732273 868791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338732282 946185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if you want to do without a gui, then just use the console instead of X : < 1338732283 419310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1338732286 946950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I don't recommend it) < 1338732304 769212 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is more of a "see if I can" experience < 1338732327 746889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun browsing the web < 1338732331 42105 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just in case I'm sent back to the 70s and don't want to /completely/ terrify them < 1338732345 443414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're taneb you will terrify them regardless < 1338732382 445538 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it works actually pretty well < 1338732416 947872 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: (spoilers: you can. I have been doing it for some 2 weeks for now) < 1338732429 813555 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing it AS WE SPEAK < 1338732431 177142 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of < 1338732443 638213 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so am I < 1338732446 660497 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running the terminal thing that comes with Ubuntu full screen < 1338732452 996450 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got the GUI behind it < 1338732461 222504 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I am not running X at all < 1338732475 214796 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I unistalled Xorg < 1338732492 343038 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I need X (qemu, hv3) I use xfbdev < 1338732543 222710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did mostly-no-X for some amount of years, some amount of years back. < 1338732576 236507 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got byobu going, with irssi, Dwarf Fortress, and links2 open < 1338732584 374601 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is kinda fun < 1338732588 204417 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-65.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338732595 303765 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what webbrowser did you run in console? I use link2 -g and I am trying to get netsurf running < 1338732613 906194 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you use links2 with or without graphics? < 1338732634 765358 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without < 1338732666 289720 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you have framebuffer working in tty*? do you have gpm? < 1338732680 443274 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not < 1338732689 977983 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing as I don't know what either are < 1338732691 289272 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is output when you type links -driver ? < 1338732727 190271 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :links is not installed < 1338732730 257016 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using links2 < 1338732746 296073 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :links2 -driver wants a parameter < 1338732766 199186 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how do you run link2? on all systems I have used links2 is started with command links < 1338732778 925490 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"links2 google.com"? < 1338732813 915424 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ? is part of that command < 1338732814 171490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I don't remember. It was around the year 2000. I don't think links2 was around, or if it was, not very far. < 1338732824 594907 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes or question mark, nortti < 1338732837 226142 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :links2 google.com < 1338732854 433992 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I meant my command < 1338732862 434213 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(links -driver ?) < 1338732865 995803 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah < 1338732877 768595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matrox cards had a very spiffy framebuffer driver. < 1338732889 672112 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown graphics driver p < 1338732900 659089 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x, fb, directfb and svgalib are supported < 1338732903 602299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a mplayer driver. < 1338732924 166236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Do you have a file called "p" there? < 1338732934 317240 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the directory? < 1338732949 435947 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1338732950 633408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I mean, it sounds like the ? expanded. < 1338732976 826672 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: good. your links2 has been compiled with framebuffer support. do you have /dev/fb* and chmod them 666 if you do < 1338732986 15733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: this is pointless since you are not using the console < 1338733051 882876 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone tells me how to use the console, I'll switch. < 1338733057 898820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl+alt+f1 < 1338733063 777096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1338733086 832724 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how many lines do you have per screen in console? < 1338733243 988747 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also can you see picture if you try mplayer -vo fbdev moviefile < 1338733264 782421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fbdev mode-setting was such a mess back then. 'fbset' was very kludgy. < 1338733288 799482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, mplayer -vo mga was the snazziest thing. < 1338733307 430863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't seem to even have fbset installed. < 1338733350 384532 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use vga=794 as kernel boot argument < 1338733410 360341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fbset let you mess around with timings and so on. < 1338733427 381089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I had a novelty 666x666 graphics mode in there. < 1338733435 882327 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1338733441 60372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather non-square pixels though. < 1338733800 338942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :vesafb tended to be real slow when e.g. scrolling, too. I wonder if that's any better nowadays. < 1338733974 709189 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338733987 17066 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338733989 963178 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what distro are you using? < 1338734144 412818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian and Ubuntu, nowadays. Either Slackware or Debian in the no-X days, can't recall which one. < 1338734274 70131 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1338734289 112959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Was it an adventure? < 1338734295 287170 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1338734324 961314 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: no idea on the lines < 1338734367 162054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 'resize' command will often tell you that. < 1338734399 602062 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 lines in one of the quadrants < 1338734415 241663 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno for the whole thing < 1338734483 255437 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-195.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338734484 411706 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No for the image < 1338734501 205617 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-51.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1338734503 283732 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if it is over 25 it is pretty safe to assume you have working framebuffer of some sort < 1338734508 579092 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: try fbset < 1338734530 814792 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not installed < 1338734563 95375 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :install it < 1338734602 360023 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installed < 1338734613 191858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just cat /proc/fb? (Or whatever it was called.) < 1338734653 461911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, technically that just tells if there is a framebuffer device, not whether the console is bound to it. < 1338734653 711159 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was /proc/fb (mine shows 0 VESA VGA) < 1338734708 324789 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, trying stuff < 1338734721 362014 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1338734922 572863 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338734927 415507 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1338735160 107496 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 lines, btw < 1338735247 156148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is this in X-land, or the console? < 1338735260 208957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 is a pretty weird number for an actual console. < 1338735285 180143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given reasonable video modes and font heights. < 1338735316 88578 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual console, I think < 1338735316 635980 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I need dimensions of you text console you can access with C-A-F1 < 1338735335 571564 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: install gpm < 1338735395 905161 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installing < 1338735425 890816 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can use a MOUSE! Isn't that so 2000s? < 1338735427 939681 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installed < 1338735434 752277 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, cool! < 1338735452 913459 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :now try links2 -g -driver fb < 1338735453 390183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming things work out, that is. < 1338735678 131984 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/02/in-light-of-recent-episodes-cdc-makes-statement-that-zombies-dont-actually-exist/ < 1338735701 961302 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1338735708 760884 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'�I feel like the CDC, they know something is going on,� one woman who disagrees with Kendrick said. �They�re trying to cover it up so nobody will panic.� < 1338735708 843453 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She also believes in vampires, and that this is all one big conspiracy.' < 1338735715 510723 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1338736030 914934 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-147-80.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338736060 230495 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-195.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338736123 643561 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well, something to consider is the false sense of authority one might get from reading "the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention � a federal agency � " < 1338736158 891831 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, can federal agencies really be trusted? < 1338736212 125248 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they can't < 1338736305 294293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338736345 725370 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi < 1338736348 551677 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1338736394 894907 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log hi < 1338736427 404261 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338736441 576656 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'warning: "hi" is frequently misinterpreted as a threat' > wisdom/hi < 1338736444 92295 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338736446 366779 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi < 1338736449 384761 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: "hi" is frequently misinterpreted as a threat < 1338736491 603090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/hi < 1338736493 833480 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338736494 465749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one shall be warned < 1338736506 280628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :waning | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1338736519 381534 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338736523 236559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338736543 830129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone name my simultaneous-turn roguelike < 1338736552 597504 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a front-page article, claiming that the CIA had assassinated foreign leaders, and had illegally conducted surveillance on some 7,000 US citizens involved in the antiwar movement (Operation CHAOS). The CIA had also experimented on people, who unknowingly took LSD (among other things). < 1338736566 373096 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :estr? < 1338736601 587183 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nixon and Haldemann ensured that the CIA's #1 and #2 ranking officials, Richard Helms and Vernon Walters, communicated to FBI Director L. Patrick Gray that the FBI should not follow the money trail from the burglars to the Committee to Re-elect the President, as it would uncover CIA informants in Mexico. < 1338736626 269737 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :federal agency! < 1338736626 739223 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: the CIA also condones making love to goats < 1338736666 404880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll call it quokaa < 1338736667 799705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quokka < 1338736674 410073 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quack < 1338736674 824475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :downside: quokka is hard to type < 1338736711 198016 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1338736729 411852 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The journal Nature reported in 2005 that 70% of FDA panels writing clinical guidelines on prescription drug usage contained at least one member with financial links to drug companies whose products were covered by those guidelines. < 1338736742 68593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god are you going on about patents again < 1338736745 345659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill me < 1338736753 114074 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.. about federal agencies < 1338736787 661114 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CIA, FBI, FDA.. i am not sure who else there is to dig up wikipedia dirt on < 1338736829 700029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1338738172 243131 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1338738175 626371 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1338738729 297082 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1338738732 867897 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1338738734 780111 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE nortti < 1338738738 525341 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1338738840 761779 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE nortti < 1338738844 282309 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NoRtTi: WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1338738867 730235 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME nortti < 1338738870 594675 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NORTTI: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1338739604 843901 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1338739720 293269 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338739722 14493 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338740056 271841 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Taneb did links2 work in framebuffer? < 1338740056 437199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338740190 729053 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo foo < 1338740190 896163 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = "freenode", msgLBName = "lambdabot", msgPrefix = "nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi", msgCommand = "PRIVMSG", msgParams = ["#esoteric",":@echo foo"] < 1338740191 30610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :} rest:"foo" < 1338740221 582180 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338740253 774749 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help echo < 1338740254 94192 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo . echo irc protocol string < 1338740275 405773 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo foo < 1338740277 915170 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1338740293 909041 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo `echo #echo foo < 1338740294 336669 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo #echo foo < 1338740297 299031 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#echo foo < 1338740364 540307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo foo < 1338740364 813366 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo foo < 1338740379 165456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the only one that actually has an echo. < 1338740391 234998 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it and oonbotti < 1338740414 229799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that just prints the argument. < 1338740425 778985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo Does it echo in here? < 1338740426 55041 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it echo in here? Does it echo in here? < 1338740520 47942 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338740529 118500 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run :(){ :|:&; }; : < 1338740531 962499 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `;' \ bash: -c: line 0: `:(){ :|:&; }; :' < 1338740547 728066 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run a(){ a|a& }a < 1338740550 403332 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1338740556 183059 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run a(){ a|a& }; a < 1338740558 938004 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338740623 274410 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. HackEgo either solves the halting problem, has detection for fokbombs or just stops commands after some time < 1338740760 559714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything has a timeout, though that might get stopped earlier due to other limits for all I know. < 1338740773 188691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do true; done < 1338740790 563582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1338740795 919200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :waning is a good word < 1338740801 741139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it says anything when it gets bored. < 1338740805 211554 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338740815 552237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently just that. < 1338740862 502748 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. I'll just have to find code that solves the halting program somewhere else < 1338740929 637725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, to reinvent the wheel or not to reinvent the wheel < 1338740956 828651 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what wheel? < 1338740967 610541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :terminal display < 1338741005 572893 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what? < 1338741055 818046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :things < 1338741059 954071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that want to display on terminals < 1338741181 942393 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :reinvent if you can do better that existing implementations, otherwise don't < 1338741287 853525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I can do better < 1338741291 300714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is whether I can be bothered < 1338742069 795471 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That is a photo of squids off the coast of Japan using their own water farts to leap right out of the water and into open air." < 1338745679 350712 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338745704 831654 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338745705 471667 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1338745719 72871 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, no < 1338745738 265657 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I know I can survive in a texty mode like that, I will never use it again < 1338745867 24192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Went to check my tty1, just for funtimes. Didn't know there's a "FATAL: Error inserting vesafb (/lib/modules/.../vesafb.ko): No such device" in there, that's funny. < 1338746600 670738 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUTURE ZZO38: what does loeb do? I can't get it to do anything... < 1338746732 198508 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not exported, though? < 1338746762 814666 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAH BUT IT IS! < 1338746814 295503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://blog.sigfpe.com/2006/11/from-l-theorem-to-spreadsheet.html < 1338746935 110089 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338747109 375437 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-105.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338747171 306553 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1338747184 860122 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, elliott < 1338747190 2754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1338747190 299666 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was going to be about L-systems. < 1338747194 733309 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like L-systems. < 1338747254 973902 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if I understand it, though < 1338747257 991488 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just link it < 1338747472 180362 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1338747476 429833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1338747734 861875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: See also http://blog.sigfpe.com/2006/12/tying-knots-generically.html < 1338747794 310185 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1338747861 839027 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338748433 174851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338748691 575178 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I still don't really know what loeb does, but I know that's my own fault, not the fault of loeb < 1338749134 291430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338749149 444967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1338749190 79867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1338749190 800564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1338749194 626612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1338749195 259447 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 10h 56m 55s ago: skyscraper sits there with the enemy doing a fake triplock for hundreds of cycles. sure that is ample opportunity to guess polarity and put the last decoys in the < 1338749195 423486 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :direction that costs them the most time? < 1338749238 968201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't get it, that's how skyscraper works at the moment < 1338749573 304833 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I took it from some description somewhere; it can be used for spreadsheet evaluation < 1338749581 533830 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, elliott linked it < 1338749719 678769 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also change the order of exports if you prefer a different order < 1338750067 593001 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-65.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338750190 172215 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the moment, I'm just playing with the Curry-Howard correspondance < 1338750197 345998 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think what Negation is like < 1338750247 816486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a is (a -> Void) < 1338750249 222643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not could be considered (x -> Zero) if Zero is uninhabited type < 1338750251 800748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where Void is the type with no values < 1338750264 824571 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1338750313 77263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/* Load the data for one screen. Return its data index, in such a way that Splint can see that it's fully defined (data indexes themselves often < 1338750314 548637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : aren't, so the return value is a more specific type than s->index). *mutters something about Curry/Howard* */ < 1338750332 799842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also works if Zero actually represents the number zero, () represents one, -> for exponent, (,) for multiplication, Either for addition, then zero to the power of zero makes one and zero to the power of anything other than zero makes zero < 1338750360 32489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In what program is that? < 1338750380 765133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a platformer engine I'm writing < 1338750395 173476 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-146-197.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338750400 32720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to use Splint to prove there are no memory allocation errors in it; sadly, Splint is too buggy to make a good theorem prover < 1338750409 739775 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-147-80.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338751029 127815 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-146-197.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338751031 131780 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-112.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338751079 10826 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-120-81.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338751098 695997 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-120-81.nycap.res.rr.com PART :#esoteric < 1338751159 408253 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-65.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338751708 122411 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-65.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338752030 991305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah i just realized that it is what it was doing. i was confused because it was failing to do it in some places where it could have, but i realize now that is just a weakness with the polarity detection, not the strategy < 1338752088 943253 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-65.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338752190 700463 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_elevator http://sprunge.us/TSOU < 1338752200 269731 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_elevator: 0.0 < 1338752206 215387 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1338752206 297855 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1338752218 936671 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :failure to paste properly? < 1338752231 721457 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see it < 1338752239 904474 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe failure to read properly? < 1338752271 734356 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i dunno. it shouldnt be much longer than the one that was already in there < 1338752299 19048 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, maybe EgoBot had an internet blip < 1338752315 11388 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338752321 584251 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unmatched loops somehow < 1338752329 474247 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338752338 733122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338752359 394702 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338752379 46652 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338752385 855046 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it has to do with the massive failure my terminal had when i was pasting it in < 1338752398 529310 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite loop of visual bells < 1338752411 313371 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338752587 498784 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_elevator http://sprunge.us/hCEj < 1338752590 444039 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_elevator: 0.0 < 1338752597 874695 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fack < 1338752614 295798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unmatched paren, or something? < 1338752627 917267 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338752631 434077 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1338752644 529428 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i locate the character egojsout says it's at < 1338752718 991170 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what text editor happily says "oh here's the context around character 36866! < 1338752798 433360 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you have a copy of the old version? < 1338752807 995171 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :locally < 1338752827 310118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes < 1338752843 27562 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it'll be easier to make the changes again than track down the missing character < 1338752843 109937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: and I use Emacs, C-u 36866 C-f < 1338752859 837526 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pb me the original < 1338752889 876705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot.hg/index.cgi/raw-file/93dc3dc7dad9/quintopia_space_elevator.bfjoust < 1338752894 168776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need for a pastebin ;) < 1338752903 407190 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1338752904 109048 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg < 1338752906 770356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(EgoBot has past versions online too) < 1338752914 102801 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that version is too old < 1338752923 908151 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need 1_4_9 < 1338752931 766546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK, let me see if that's the one I have locally < 1338752940 738257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry my computer was off < 1338752967 265653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/idYC < 1338752976 268166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ^ < 1338753329 338450 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_elevator http://sprunge.us/hgZU < 1338753332 310887 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_elevator: 44.7 < 1338753335 492009 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1338753344 166116 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is a slight improvement < 1338753363 579302 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of other things i want to change, but its good to see that < 1338753679 942816 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "surviving" in a linux text mode is not hard at all. tell me when you haven't started X for 5 days < 1338753688 807250 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER! < 1338753770 566595 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't that hard really. biggest change would be using links2 as your main web browser (that or compiling netsurf with it's dependecy hell) < 1338753784 305978 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338753798 437960 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me, the biggest challenge would be figuring out how to use emacs/vi/nano/whatever < 1338753851 382196 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can't figure out nano you don't deserve to say you can survive in textmode < 1338753896 101517 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1338753898 464123 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right < 1338753902 322290 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's surprisingly easy < 1338753925 131095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338753946 956130 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is as easy as using notepad but remeber to use nano -w (or whatever disables word wrap) < 1338753996 33868 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for future terminal use at least learn basics of vi, emacs or ed < 1338754009 16541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear < 1338754033 296424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :WebKitDFB or Dillo on GTK on DirectFB. Though I guess that doesn't really count as "text mode" any more. < 1338754066 71637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit dubious on how well the banking websites would work on links2 or elinks or w3m or whatever. < 1338754076 905013 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well directfb means you cannot use other terminals when that program is running < 1338754102 363320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be just for special occasions. < 1338754148 743942 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also netsurf has better rendering than dillo if I remember correctly. and website rendering in links2 is not really that bad < 1338754196 219252 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just a hell to get to build even under X and buiding for framebuffer is even harder < 1338754327 291218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : if you can't figure out nano you don't deserve to say you can survive in textmode <-- nano is unfit for heavy editing, it doesn't obviously do automatic indentation < 1338754338 400071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even just "copy the indentation of the previous line" like gedit < 1338754393 475861 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know. I should have said "if you can't *even* figure out nano you don't deserve to say you can survive in textmode" < 1338754396 550041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When on Linux computer I use vi < 1338754429 486841 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never use nano myself. I use either ed or sometimes vi < 1338754557 204577 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I would be forced to choose between emacs and nano I would choose nano < 1338755373 498756 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OO < 1338755383 449978 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have just figured out what callCC is on about < 1338755384 648435 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338755384 648548 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338755384 648592 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1338755384 648633 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338755400 725782 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses what its output is going to be used for to find its output < 1338755421 935158 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(am I wrong?) < 1338755478 539773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomplete, perhaps. < 1338755911 134322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you should read my explanation! < 1338755939 909016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9050725/call-cc-implementation or just read http://blog.sigfpe.com/2008/12/mother-of-all-monads.html < 1338756020 665370 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I reimplemented `WeLcOmE and properly this time < 1338756031 462719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations < 1338756053 883975 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackev/bin/WeLcOmE < 1338756056 328707 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /hackev/bin/WeLcOmE: No such file or directory < 1338756064 991780 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/bin/WeLcOmE < 1338756067 189703 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome $@ | python -c "print (lambda s: ''.join([ (s[i].upper() if i%2==0 else s[i].lower()) for i in range(len(s)) ]))(raw_input())" < 1338756099 380527 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ foo < 1338756101 685847 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ: not found < 1338756126 228864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I can't believe I wrote all that spiel on continuations. < 1338756130 46723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so long. < 1338756171 939065 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf "#!/bin/sh\nWELCOME | perl -CS -Mutf8 -pwe 'y/!-~/！-～/; y/ /　/'\n" >/hackenv/bin/ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ; chmod 755 /hackenv/bin/ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ < 1338756174 417763 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338756178 771382 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what did you try to execute? I only see blocks < 1338756184 579725 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/bin/ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ < 1338756186 565097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE what? < 1338756187 470065 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ WELCOME | perl -CS -Mutf8 -pwe 'y/!-~/！-～/; y/ /　/' < 1338756196 715703 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME foo < 1338756199 429337 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1338756200 275087 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOO: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1338756200 275297 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WhAt?: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1338756204 697139 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ foo < 1338756207 955262 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ　ＴＯ　ＴＨＥ　ＩＮＴＥＲＮＡＴＩＯＮＡＬ　ＨＵＢ　ＦＯＲ　ＥＳＯＴＥＲＩＣ　ＰＲＯＧＲＡＭＭＩＮＧ　ＬＡＮＧＵＡＧＥ　ＤＥＳＩＧＮ　ＡＮＤ　ＤＥＰＬＯＹＭＥＮＴ！　ＦＯＲ　ＭＯＲＥ　ＩＮＦＯＲＭＡＴＩＯＮ，　ＣＨＥＣＫ　ＯＵＴ　ＯＵＲ　ＷＩＫＩ：　ＨＴＴＰ：／／ＥＳＯＬＡＮＧＳ．ＯＲＧ／ＷＩＫ < 1338756242 345079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1338756247 616236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last letter is shaved off < 1338756255 133158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about just removing all the spaces? I can hardly see them anyway < 1338756292 915817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ｙａｙ，　ｆｕｌｌｗｉｄｔｈ　ｔｅｘｔ． < 1338756297 743169 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what letter? < 1338756302 222071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ｍｙ　ｆａｖｏｕｒｉｔｅ． < 1338756309 758174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, that Python WeLcOmE is so overcomplicated. < 1338756311 772832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome foo | python -c "print ''.join(c.upper() if i%2==0 else c.lower() for i, c in enumerate(raw_input()))" < 1338756315 393671 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FoO: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1338756317 387385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: the I of "wiki" < 1338756327 843072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also wrong, since it alternates on non-alphabetical characters. < 1338756339 379110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: That omits the "foo: ". < 1338756346 193125 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, good point. < 1338756354 727797 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf "#!/bin/sh\nWELCOME \"$@\" | perl -CS -Mutf8 -pwe 'y/!-~/！-～/; y/ /　/'\n" >/hackenv/bin/ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ; chmod 755 /hackenv/bin/ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ < 1338756357 292078 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338756369 552864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ ais523 < 1338756372 781584 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​：　ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ　ＴＯ　ＴＨＥ　ＩＮＴＥＲＮＡＴＩＯＮＡＬ　ＨＵＢ　ＦＯＲ　ＥＳＯＴＥＲＩＣ　ＰＲＯＧＲＡＭＭＩＮＧ　ＬＡＮＧＵＡＧＥ　ＤＥＳＩＧＮ　ＡＮＤ　ＤＥＰＬＯＹＭＥＮＴ！　ＦＯＲ　ＭＯＲＥ　ＩＮＦＯＲＭＡＴＩＯＮ，　ＣＨＥＣＫ　ＯＵＴ　ＯＵＲ　ＷＩＫＩ：　ＨＴＴＰ：／／ＥＳＯＬＡＮＧＳ．ＯＲＧ／Ｗ < 1338756376 476253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1338756377 145600 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338756379 359045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wE得るCOMEE得る得るiOTTA得ぬDiO得ぬ！ < 1338756388 282650 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf "#!/bin/sh\nWELCOME \"\$@\" | perl -CS -Mutf8 -pwe 'y/!-~/！-～/; y/ /　/'\n" >/hackenv/bin/ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ; chmod 755 /hackenv/bin/ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ < 1338756390 642888 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338756400 725181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight. < 1338756401 883270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338756405 635767 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ foo < 1338756409 55715 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ＦＯＯ：　ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ　ＴＯ　ＴＨＥ　ＩＮＴＥＲＮＡＴＩＯＮＡＬ　ＨＵＢ　ＦＯＲ　ＥＳＯＴＥＲＩＣ　ＰＲＯＧＲＡＭＭＩＮＧ　ＬＡＮＧＵＡＧＥ　ＤＥＳＩＧＮ　ＡＮＤ　ＤＥＰＬＯＹＭＥＮＴ！　ＦＯＲ　ＭＯＲＥ　ＩＮＦＯＲＭＡＴＩＯＮ，　ＣＨＥＣＫ　ＯＵＴ　ＯＵＲ　ＷＩＫＩ：　ＨＴＴＰ：／／ＥＳＯＬＡＮＧＳ．ＯＲ < 1338756519 499467 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: http://i.imgur.com/NMQKb.png < 1338756557 585378 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. ok < 1338756598 249077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check out our wiki, ESOLANGS.OR.DIE. < 1338757408 730733 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, --- AAAAH < 1338757442 623450 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, callCC is pretty confusing... but useful? < 1338757502 473876 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust zoom (>)*9(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*4(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*17])*17 < 1338757505 141425 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_zoom: 20.7 < 1338757511 631035 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338757582 132424 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like a bug >.> < 1338757663 556615 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you're the expert on brainfuck variants < 1338757667 791913 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there one with callCC? < 1338757720 541619 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it, seeing as Brainfuck doesn't have local variables. < 1338757726 848058 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1338757744 247417 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm gonna go now, I've got an early morning to wake up to < 1338757747 464069 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-5-117.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338758051 712223 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust zoom (>)*9(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*20])*4(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*17])*17 < 1338758054 244892 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_zoom: 25.7 < 1338758063 268529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :suicides less :D < 1338758163 132691 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjout perkele [---] < 1338758187 2831 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele [---] < 1338758189 842258 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 14.3 < 1338758197 475484 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele [+++] < 1338758197 641477 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :suicides more! < 1338758200 205890 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 14.3 < 1338758213 389527 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele [--->+++<] < 1338758216 62264 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 13.2 < 1338758222 638586 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele [--->+<] < 1338758226 290739 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 13.3 < 1338758245 137342 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele >(+)*100<[---] < 1338758247 792216 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 12.6 < 1338758254 339946 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust spin (-+>+)*-1 < 1338758257 119696 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_spin: 0.0 < 1338758265 629686 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele >(+)*10<[---] < 1338758268 334158 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 11.8 < 1338758271 379030 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele >(+)*10<[---] < 1338758274 245229 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 11.8 < 1338758275 986665 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele >(+)*255<[---] < 1338758278 780682 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 13.9 < 1338758307 222399 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (>(+)*255)*5(<)*5[---] < 1338758309 811657 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 6.5 < 1338758569 822925 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele [->+<] < 1338758572 537154 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 12.9 < 1338758587 618703 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele [->+>+<<] < 1338758590 367514 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 11.6 < 1338758602 649212 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele [-.] < 1338758606 362400 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 15.9 < 1338758625 464990 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is trying to commit suicide >.< < 1338758730 404209 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust spin (--+>+)*-1 < 1338758733 233602 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_spin: 1.6 < 1338758745 412716 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust spin (--+>+<)*-1 < 1338758748 225703 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_spin: 13.0 < 1338758761 79913 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust spin (-+>+<)*-1 < 1338758765 845074 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_spin: 8.3 < 1338758789 328592 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust shudder (--+)*-1 < 1338758793 987299 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_shudder: 17.7 < 1338758799 382294 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1338758843 519386 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust null . < 1338758846 400589 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_null: 9.2 < 1338758906 104362 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that one win? < 1338758935 3076 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how do you repeat piece of code -1 times? < 1338758999 585840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's by tradition equivalent to the maximum, i think < 1338759025 430954 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I know that null at least wins agains quintopia_zoom by having it run off the tape... < 1338759026 325718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the tradition _may_ have started out as a bug :P) < 1338759081 921214 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (->+<)*-1 < 1338759084 784670 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 13.0 < 1338759089 190542 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (-)*-1 < 1338759092 961826 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 16.8 < 1338759098 154011 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (+)*-1 < 1338759103 73260 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 16.8 < 1338759116 383379 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (+>[-])*-1 < 1338759119 104763 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 12.2 < 1338759124 654641 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (+>[-]<)*-1 < 1338759126 655015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust tykje (++)*-1 < 1338759127 367216 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 15.1 < 1338759130 330605 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for oerjan_tykje: 16.8 < 1338759134 474047 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (+++)*-1 < 1338759138 278562 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 16.8 < 1338759150 850040 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's interesting how a row of + or - can get 16.8 < 1338759166 593721 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust zoom (>)*9(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*20])*4(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*17])*5(>[>(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*12])*12])*12 < 1338759169 295870 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_zoom: 14.4 < 1338759172 918120 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (-+)*-1 < 1338759175 413676 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1338759176 696204 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 11.6 < 1338759184 267272 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (.+)*-1 < 1338759188 125076 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 18.4 < 1338759192 468559 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (.++)*-1 < 1338759195 204903 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 13.4 < 1338759203 475539 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (.+++)*-1 < 1338759206 177857 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 13.1 < 1338759211 458775 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (.++++)*-1 < 1338759214 208576 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 11.2 < 1338759218 695374 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (.)*-1 < 1338759221 479297 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 8.2 < 1338759223 277074 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (.+)*-1 < 1338759227 162506 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 17.3 < 1338759241 241718 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (.+.)*-1 < 1338759245 94508 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 15.0 < 1338759251 399144 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (.++.)*-1 < 1338759255 260722 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 15.2 < 1338759258 625127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust zoom (>)*9(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*20])*4(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*17])*5(>[>(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*12])*12])*12 < 1338759259 573095 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (.++.+.)*-1 < 1338759261 358087 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_zoom: 14.2 < 1338759263 206368 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 15.0 < 1338759265 758500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't (.+)-1 lose if the opponent does nothing? < 1338759271 519036 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338759290 406409 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust zoom (>)*9(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*20])*4(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*17])*17 < 1338759293 180942 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_zoom: 25.3 < 1338759293 295890 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele (.+>.+<)*-1 < 1338759296 55242 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_perkele: 12.6 < 1338759379 644765 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat: it's interesting how zoom beats dreadnought and slowpoke and skyscraper despite not leaving any decoys and skipping some when it finds them < 1338759491 827885 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So zoom assumes the enemy has decoys and tries to get to the flag immediately? < 1338759593 948173 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust zoom (>)*8(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*20])*4(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*17])*17 < 1338759596 732771 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_zoom: 28.0 < 1338759603 704983 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes basically < 1338759615 608220 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it only assumes the enemy has decoys on long tapes < 1338759636 389188 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it uses a new clear i just invented < 1338759663 112620 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so even against fast rushes (like space_elevator on short tape) it brings down the flag first < 1338759720 564119 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :still has some bugs tho < 1338759803 552561 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new clear looks like a fast clear merged with an offset clear repeated twice with different polarities. < 1338759934 685713 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :look again < 1338759985 823992 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does a small fast clear, then a big offset clear...but assumes the decoy/flag won't be certain heights < 1338759991 56847 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is to say < 1338760007 711826 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it clears for a while, speed subtracts for a while, then clears some more, etc. < 1338760032 648385 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the closing brackets are very susceptible to triplocks unfortunately, but i don't know how to deal with that < 1338760223 904384 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's one place in the routine that would be a good point to break out of the clear loop, you can use null brackets {} to create copies of the clear routine inside the routine. < 1338760264 306913 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how I dealt with it anyway. < 1338760338 888252 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although zoom seems sufficently complex to make that very difficult to do. < 1338760587 539547 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust zoom (>)*8(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*20])*4(>[(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*16])*17])*5(>[(>[(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*12])*12])*12 < 1338760590 29520 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_zoom: 22.2 < 1338760605 74481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :interest < 1338760612 98694 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust zoom (>)*8(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*20])*4(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*17])*17 < 1338760615 50058 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_zoom: 28.0 < 1338760845 372651 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338761150 994697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: how does that program work? < 1338761176 648614 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: read the conversation above. that pretty much covers it. < 1338761183 694477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, it's a similar idea to counterpoke (the longer it takes to engage with the enemy, the more decoys it probably has) < 1338761205 89485 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338761235 378983 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only other innovation is the assumption that decoys are certain sizes: very small or medium height or huge < 1338761252 511762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is a legitimate addition to BF Joust technology that will start showing up in more programs (the counterpoke/zoom thing) < 1338761267 156372 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes maybe < 1338761291 442655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow counterpoke has fallen a lot < 1338761337 233163 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :expect it to fall more < 1338761367 502566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because people are getting good at confusing it? < 1338761378 220178 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :space_elevator already does a better decoy build (and always has). space_elevator's weakness is its clear (still) < 1338761417 894961 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :expect skyscraper to rise i think. that strategy is hard to counter. < 1338761612 533005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very easy to counter, just clear with alternating polarities :) < 1338761620 369759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprised nobody had thought of that < 1338761648 957486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, i think i did that at one point a long time ago < 1338761668 709521 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :space_elevator used to clear with alternating cycle lengths < 1338761684 900990 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the double clear is still in there < 1338761706 408451 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with alternating polarity clear is that people frequently use alternating decoys < 1338761710 734585 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like dreadnought < 1338761734 319201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use alternating decoys any more, they're too vulnerable to people detecting the pattern (even though nobody's done that yet; maybe I should) < 1338761737 93117 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so half the time you get the *worst* possible set of clears < 1338761764 61230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm rather partial to the "a block in one direction, a block in the other direction" pattern, which works neatly no matter what the opponent's clear pattern < 1338761774 215888 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in space_elevator i made sure i had an equal number of decoys in each direction, but not with a pattern < 1338761857 455743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder... < 1338761971 378238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh how did that bug stay in there < 1338761996 651345 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust zoom (>)*8(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*20])*4(>[(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*17])*17 < 1338761999 561553 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_zoom: 23.3 < 1338762009 371078 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :weeeeeeeird < 1338762030 403151 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust zoom (>)*8(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*20])*4(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*17])*17 < 1338762033 145792 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_zoom: 28.0 < 1338762036 620442 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1338762048 674007 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you should assume 2 decoys on long tapes < 1338762309 715843 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust careless_zoom (>)*8(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*20])*4(>[>(>[(-)*3([+{(+)*12([-{(-)*30([-{(-)*20[-][+][-]}])%30}])%30}])%6])*17])*17 < 1338762312 475300 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_careless_zoom: 26.9 < 1338762317 345254 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad... < 1338762361 174245 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust careless_zoom (>)*8(>[(-)*15([+{(-)*90(.-)*60}])%30(>[(-)*15(-)*90(.-)*60}])%30])*20])*4(>[>(>[(-)*15([+{(-)*90(.-)*60}])%30])*17])*17 < 1338762364 6917 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_careless_zoom: 0.0 < 1338762370 341518 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338762382 521569 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338762385 393667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1338762386 362638 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1338762907 678661 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338762913 441745 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see why that won't ever work < 1338763301 943248 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust impomatic_lessdumb (>(-)*8>(+)*8)*4(>[+++++[-]])*21 < 1338763304 913594 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_impomatic_lessdumb: 24.5 < 1338763350 961429 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1338763357 339182 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :adds like 1/2 a point of score < 1338763391 19359 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338763500 505275 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, how is careless_zoom showing ties for everything? < 1338763544 430050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat: syntax error, probably < 1338764122 346146 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1338764365 49138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unmatched } after second *60 < 1338765060 735284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1338765106 12997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338767748 624034 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, the Google results for "set fire to the third bar" are really disappointing. < 1338767772 928243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all just corrected to "set the fire to the third bar" and none of them are about serial arsonists. < 1338767830 769595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1338767982 801362 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes when I fantasise about meeting a girl who shares my passion for burning things I really wish I had a song to go with it, you know?