00:01:39 Thanks shachaf. 00:04:04 -!- Patashu has joined. 00:05:10 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:08:52 portal is a short game yes 00:09:00 never played portal 2 00:11:43 Crap. 00:12:10 A long time ago, I used a main password on a website that stores passwords in plaintext. 00:12:10 portal may take longer if you get stuck on puzzles 00:12:21 monqy: i'm bad at puzzles but 00:12:29 sometimes i'm not 00:12:32 but sometimes i am 00:12:34 it ~depends~ 00:12:46 anyway portal is good & worth playing 00:12:51 I think shachaf is away though. :'( 00:12:54 i've heard mixed things about portal 2 00:12:59 SO I CAN'T PLAY PORTAL. 00:13:08 monqy: Is the Half-Life series also worth playing? 00:13:30 i've only played hl2. this was a while ago but i think i liked it 00:15:05 monqy: If I play them I have to start with HL1. 00:15:07 :( 00:15:57 I hear hl1 is good 00:16:13 PH didn't like it, I think. But then he's PH. 00:16:17 Or did he even try it? I forget. 00:16:34 -!- fizziew has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:16:50 -!- fizziew has joined. 00:19:56 fizzie: Why are you at work at 3 am? 00:19:57 elliott: im away :'( 00:20:01 shachaf: hi 00:20:08 shachaf: does portal 2 really only take 2 hours 00:20:24 "do you mean Portal 1" 00:20:36 Trick question: There is no such thing. 00:20:46 erm 00:20:47 by portal 2 00:20:48 i mean 00:20:49 portal 1 00:20:52 shachaf: does portal 1 really only take 2 hours 00:20:58 elliott: Took me longer. 00:21:03 But then I was playing it "with someone else" 00:21:16 how long did it `take' 00:21:35 I don't remember. 00:21:52 anyway i'm "up for playing portal 1 now" 00:21:57 how horrible is steam i;ve never used it 00:22:01 horrible 00:22:03 i oppose it on ideological grounds but have never used it ha ha ha 00:22:10 it's bad 00:22:18 :( 00:22:21 is it worse on os x 00:22:35 i run the windows version in wine so 00:22:37 it's probably the worst for me 00:23:06 did you know steam is coming to linxueseh 00:23:10 `now you know' 00:23:10 yes 00:23:12 i knew 00:23:13 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: now: not found 00:23:21 since i get weird breaky things like the windows moving a bit by themselves 00:23:24 elliott: It's pretty worse. :-( 00:23:38 :-( 00:23:39 "pretty worse: worse than pretty bad" 00:23:52 "and pretty bad is pretty bad all on its won" 00:23:54 "own" 00:23:58 can i use it to bug people when i;m playing the game "that's all i need & demand from a thing that is going to get between me and games" 00:24:17 yes but i just use irc for bug 00:24:22 elliott: The very fact that you're playing a game "bugs people". 00:24:36 (it notifies them your playing game) 00:24:39 elliott: You should install Steam to demonstrate your good intentions! 00:24:44 shachaf: but can i bug them with 00:24:49 ~personal messages~ i don't like impersonal bugging 00:24:54 that "hi" needs to be typed by me ! 00:24:56 you can bug them with that too 00:24:59 but 00:24:59 ok ill install steam 00:25:06 monqy: excellent ph will never rest a day in his life again 00:25:14 excellent 00:25:20 but what 00:25:31 oh is there a limit to how many times you can redownload something from steam 00:25:34 but ive nevver used it i just use irc 00:25:51 monqy: irc requires switching windows and stuff 00:26:01 i use windowed mode!!! 00:26:04 at least if steam is anything like the OTHER things i've used it'll properly overlay on top of the game 00:26:05 fullscren bothers me 00:26:06 monqy: gross 00:26:12 games in windowed mode are wrong 00:26:13 you're gross!!! 00:26:16 think of your immersion monqy!!! 00:26:19 you're wrong!!! 00:26:19 elliott: What about::: 00:26:23 "crawl in windowed mode" 00:26:24 my immersion is perfectly fine 00:26:24 "Two-button mouse strongly recommended" 00:26:27 "monqys-crawl in windowed mode" 00:26:28 Oh. Right. 00:26:31 shachaf: So, um. 00:26:37 Portal uses the mouse, right? 00:26:40 yes 00:26:41 Um. 00:26:41 Yes. 00:26:46 "as they say" 00:26:49 How great would... 00:26:49 it's "first person" 00:26:51 Portal with a touchpad be? 00:26:51 "you gotta have a mouse" 00:26:57 Just. Theoretically! 00:26:58 "and it gotta have two buttons" 00:27:01 I can right click with this thing! 00:27:05 I've played Minecraft with this thing! 00:27:08 have you ever played a fps except instead of shooting bullets you shoot puzzles 00:27:09 elliott: Just, like, get a mouse, man. 00:27:12 It was intensely unpleasant, but... 00:27:16 shachaf: It's 1:27 am! 00:27:21 "go to sleep" 00:27:28 monqy: "i just showed him" 00:27:29 shachaf: I've already resolved to buy a DualShock 3 thing to play games with. 00:27:46 hwats that 00:27:52 elliott: Instead of a dualshock 3 thing 00:27:54 "get a mouse" 00:27:55 monqy: playstation 3 controller 00:27:58 oh 00:27:59 shachaf: nowhere to put a mouse 00:28:11 elliott: "on the touchpad" 00:28:11 monqy: (playstation controllers are the best console controllers - elliott religion) 00:28:17 shachaf: ew 00:28:20 Can we have an offtopic channel for this conversation? 00:28:20 it'd scrape 00:28:22 no 00:28:23 i prefer mouse for fps "'game pads' are weird" 00:28:25 this is the off-topic channel 00:28:29 NO 00:28:31 monqy: they are but 00:28:33 THIS CHANNEL = ESOLANGS 00:28:34 one purchase is better than two! 00:28:36 shachaf: no 00:28:40 i just use mouse 00:28:45 and key board 00:28:56 monqy: im laptop 00:28:57 im no place to put laptop down 00:29:05 http://ompldr.org/vZThtOQ/Screen%20Shot%202012-06-11%20at%2001.27.49.png simply drag 00:29:05 floor 00:29:21 monqy: floor is bad mousepad 00:29:27 put laptop on floor 00:29:29 elliott: Get an 00:29:30 put mouspad on floor 00:29:31 "optical mouse" 00:29:33 shachaf: Is steam meant to be a 1x1 pixel window? 00:29:38 elliott: Yes. 00:29:43 i dont "get" mac instals they're wierd 00:29:44 elliott: Now you see why people hate Steam so much. 00:29:45 shachaf: Optimal mice are still yucky on floor. 00:29:47 "i dont use a mac" - monqy 00:29:50 Floor is all, like, lumpy. 00:29:55 elliott: Get a LAZER mouse. 00:29:59 monqy: applications just run from anywhere 00:30:03 and you put them in /Applications because 00:30:05 get a "track ball" (laiughter) 00:30:06 "why would you put them anywhere else" 00:30:07 "you know it's cool 'cause it's spelled with a zee" 00:30:11 I own a trackball! 00:30:13 "not a zed btw, a zee" 00:30:14 I used it for a while. 00:30:15 It sucked. 00:30:20 elliott: Use a trackball! 00:30:23 No. 00:30:29 Oh, now it's updating Steam. 00:30:38 honestly i'd rather fps with trackball than touchpad 00:30:40 Why am I installing this Satanic thing? 00:30:46 "monqy opinions" 00:30:56 updating is steam's thing, man 00:30:57 monqy: "how much for a monqy opinion" 00:30:58 monqy: Well um I'm probably not going to get very far with this touchpad, but. 00:31:10 elliott: No, seriously, don't use a touchpad. 00:31:13 honestly i'd rather fps with trackball than "game pad" 00:31:17 im bad at sticks 00:31:20 i mean 00:31:22 camera sticks 00:31:25 camera sticks are weird, man 00:31:32 Do you think the "elliott" account name is taken? 00:31:32 monqy always gets "camera stuck" 00:31:34 GET IT!!!!! 00:31:34 i can't use them to aim!!! 00:31:40 monqy: I don't like sticks for camera movement in FPSes either. 00:31:50 elliott: you should get:: "ehird" 00:31:53 Steam - working 00:31:54 shachaf: Yeah I am. 00:31:59 Does Steam spam you? 00:32:18 Only when you try to log in from a new computer. 00:32:23 Steam - working 00:32:27 "yay" 00:32:27 such an elegant indicator of progress 00:32:30 pop up a new window 00:32:32 title: Steam - working 00:32:35 text: Steam - working 00:32:46 Steam requires an answer to a predefined secret question? 00:32:50 Why do people like Valve so much? 00:32:51 This is horrible. 00:33:01 "What is the name of your school?" "Elliott" 00:33:06 (Because I *am* school, see?) 00:33:51 wow im scvhool too 00:34:11 Wow, thanks for echoing my password back at me in plain text, Steam. 00:34:22 "Is this still your current email address?" I JUST GAVE IT TO YOU SECONDS AGO 00:34:35 it's for double security 00:34:41 Okay, I have a Steam account now. 00:34:46 congratulations 00:34:52 Is this the part where I add "friends" and get "achievements"? 00:35:00 Because I have neither of these. IRL, I mean. 00:35:06 "achievement unlocked: unlocked achievement" 00:35:06 ":'(" 00:35:12 elliott: ":'(" 00:35:25 Ew, ew, it identifies me by my email address? 00:35:33 Wow you can't add friends without games. 00:35:34 steam does lots of things 00:35:38 waht 00:35:55 monqy: How do I make it stop identifying me as [firstpartofmyemailaddress]+*****? The asterisks are covering up "steam" for some reason. 00:36:08 Ah, I just have to change my "profile name". 00:36:12 This is... 00:36:31 The worst piece of software installed on my computer. 00:36:37 welcome to the club 00:36:57 "what monqy said" 00:37:00 "exclusive" 00:37:02 "members only" 00:37:11 Wow, scrolling the store is really awful. 00:37:13 elliott: You know how you could make it even worse? 00:37:15 Because it's a touchpad, see? 00:37:19 But it scrolls in discrete increments in Steam. 00:37:22 But it also does smooth scrolling. 00:37:25 So it's really disorienting. 00:37:26 HINT: 00:37:30 "run steam under wine" 00:37:37 what shachaf said 00:37:49 "" 00:38:12 http://steamcommunity.com/id/ehird/ ive got my own url im famous now 00:38:19 monqy: "now comes the time when you gift elliott portal 2" 00:38:21 "right??" 00:38:39 I like how the background of the library changes each time. 00:38:43 By "like" I mean this is awful. 00:38:44 i don't even own portal 2 myself 00:39:08 elliott: Do you like "the backdoors installed on your system now" 00:39:11 "free of charge" 00:39:14 i got portal when it was free 00:39:17 When it says "This user has also played as:", do those entries expire after a while? 00:39:21 +***** is so silly. 00:39:31 shachaf: You should "gift" me Portal. 00:39:34 Then I can become your "friend". 00:40:04 I bet monqy can't wait to be my "friend". 00:40:05 oh right that's your emmail isnt it 00:40:08 I bet it's the only thing he lives for. 00:40:12 monqy: It's an awful email. :( 00:40:17 I need to change it. 00:40:22 i have a few emails 00:40:23 But I want a domain to change it to. 00:40:25 about half of them are awful 00:40:27 the rest are fake 00:40:32 Fake? 00:40:34 just kidding 00:40:40 I think I know one of monqy's emails oh no shachaf added me. 00:40:44 elliott: "done" 00:40:46 you probably know uh 00:40:52 one of the decent ones 00:40:55 shachaf: Go online, silly. 00:41:01 i don't think i';ve mentioned any of the bad ones 00:41:04 monqy: I don't remember how I found it out. 00:41:04 elliott: "i don't have steam installed ehre" 00:41:10 I think I went "aha!" when I found it out, though, so it must have been cunning. 00:41:18 uh oh 00:41:25 was it awful 00:41:29 i don't think so 00:41:30 http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197989530627 is this you monqy 00:41:33 monqy: "do you know elliott's email address" 00:41:35 no 00:41:36 thats not me 00:41:38 but it says monqy 00:41:40 are you searching for me 00:41:42 maybe 00:41:43 there are many monqys 00:41:50 uuugh i have to clean out my friends list and such 00:41:54 that things been untouched for years 00:41:59 friends list and profile info 00:42:01 don't worry i gave up after searching for "monqy" 00:42:04 and probably everything else too ok good 00:42:30 http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011012274 the other result for monqy though 00:42:38 im not monqy 00:43:13 "Member since: December 28, 2009" wow ive been a long time 00:43:18 Last Online: 80 days ago 00:43:25 keep it up, me 00:43:32 http://steamcommunity.com/id/mrmistermonkey 00:43:34 "is that you monqy" 00:43:42 "looks like it" 00:43:44 you're awufl "did you know that" 00:43:45 "hi monqy" 00:43:52 im shame 00:43:57 im going to hide and bury mself in hide 00:44:00 im comfort 00:44:02 turns out i already cleaned up my friends list 00:44:04 beat u 2 it 00:44:09 * elliott propels waves of comfort to monqy 00:44:12 didnt clean up anything else though oops 00:44:15 u r being buffeted by the waves of comfort 00:44:21 oh wait i cleaned up my profile pic! 00:44:31 monqy: 00:44:31 Portal 00:44:32 16.1 hrs on record 00:44:35 :-( 00:44:37 :-) 00:44:43 elliott: "it takes": 00:44:45 "16.1 hours" 00:44:47 "to beat portal" 00:44:53 "if ur monqy" 00:44:57 i played lots of portal after i beat it !!!! 00:45:09 monqy: "what did you do" 00:45:14 "beat it again????" 00:45:18 i think i beat it at least 2 more times after that, one of which was the radios thing 00:45:24 and also did advanced chambers and uh 00:45:31 probably left it running while not playing 00:45:40 monqy: it;s ok some of us are slow at games 00:45:44 you don't need to make excuses!!! 00:45:50 no i wasnt slow!!! 00:45:53 :'( 00:46:11 oh i think the first time or two i played it though the achievements didnt work so those are "messed up" 00:46:34 and i only played through hl2 once. same deal. but then i played it a bit again i think? so i have some early achievements 00:46:35 "too bad I never got any of the achievements" - past monqy 00:46:45 monqy: 00:46:50 "is that a self self portrait" 00:46:55 "i think it is" 00:46:57 is what 00:46:58 the pear? 00:47:03 "yes" 00:47:04 yes 00:47:13 it's the very same pear 00:47:17 the very same 00:47:26 just not a rainbow ghost 00:47:29 im not going to add monqy as a friend so he doesn't have to deal with the pain of declining my request "that's what friends are for" 00:47:49 i woudlnt decline it !!! id just probably never log onto steam to accept it 00:47:51 "VAC Status: In good standing" i don;t even know what this is 00:47:56 valve anticheat 00:48:02 "The question remains, Mr. Threepwood, whether or not you can beat a pear" 00:48:04 police state ! 00:48:20 woooow steam is so bad 00:51:27 shachaf you gotta gifts me the portals so i can add monqy 00:51:40 elliott: "you can do that anyway" 00:51:45 nope 00:51:47 you have to add a game first 00:51:53 his whole profile is greyed out if i log in 00:51:54 elliott: "hey" 00:51:55 and unclickable 00:52:01 yours worked because you added me 00:52:02 elliott: "want a team fortress 2 hat instead" 00:52:06 no i;d rather dire 00:52:07 die 00:52:08 "i hear those are popular" 00:52:15 if i play tf2 im not doing hats 00:52:16 ever 00:52:17 no hats 00:52:18 for me 00:52:19 ever 00:52:23 elliott: "you can get tf2 for free btw" 00:52:25 i know 00:52:29 maybe i'll add tf2 since ph keeps telling me to play tf2 with him. 00:52:31 monqy: is tf2 good. 00:52:31 And then you'd have a game! 00:52:36 elliott: "no its boring" 00:52:40 thanks shachaf 00:52:41 "shachaf facts" 00:52:51 "almost as good as monqy facts" 00:53:24 thanks monqy 00:53:27 the thing with tf2 is it gets old quick then i have to take a big break 00:53:39 elliott: Wait!!!! 00:53:42 monqy: but is it ever fun 00:53:46 elliott: "you can get games from the humble bundles" 00:53:46 sometimes 00:53:47 i can't add an unfun game as my first profile game 00:53:49 "you get free steam keys" 00:53:55 shachaf: no i dont want to play them through steam 00:54:00 i want to reduce my steam infection to its minimal point 00:54:02 "but that way you can add monqy" 00:54:04 monqy: ok i'll add it then 00:54:06 can you delete games later 00:54:15 can i erase any knowledge that tf2 was my first-added game from steam 00:54:20 elliott: "no" 00:54:24 "forever known" 00:54:27 monqy: is shachaf lies 00:54:36 "also it records how many hours you've played each game" 00:54:38 steam fortress 2 00:54:42 shachaf: but can't you delete! 00:54:44 "hall of shame" 00:55:19 monqy: can;etl; you sdlet;re 00:55:49 ???? 00:56:01 cant you delete games 00:56:03 from steem 00:56:10 monqy: elliott is asking whether you can delete games from your Steam game list. 00:56:12 shachaf: im not accepting any gift that starts with "Create your own paradox... for the love of pie" 00:56:13 I don't know of a way to do it. 00:56:19 elliott: "too bad" 00:56:43 idont know 00:56:54 ok i'll add tf2 00:57:00 but for future reference 00:57:01 i blame monqy 00:57:14 ok wow tf2 is 00:57:15 big 00:57:18 i'll add a smaller game instead 00:57:28 elliott: Like the pieradox game?? 00:57:36 no i'd have to kill myself 00:57:40 if i added that one as my first one 00:57:48 elliott: "were you happy when you saw: gift received" 00:57:56 "pranked :'(" 00:57:58 actually there was a pang of "oh god" 00:58:18 shachaf: you know what would be a gr8 first two games to add 00:58:25 "braid" 00:58:27