< 1339718762 324163 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-139-191.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339718768 572507 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-17.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1339719018 684049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339722471 145444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Oh, right. < 1339722476 915978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Quoth: < 1339722498 614872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:20:54 00:19:05 quintopia: so you consider narrow wins as /much/ lower-scoring than crushing ones? < 1339722498 832558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:20:58 quintopia: I think this is probably a bad idea < 1339722499 23790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:20:59 --- join: azaq23 (~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23) joined #esoteric < 1339722499 23985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:21:07 --- quit: azaq23 (Max SendQ exceeded) < 1339722499 24088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:22:02 05:07:06 ais523: i consider winning one tape length/polarity and drawing on the rest to be 1/42 as good as winning on them all < 1339722501 19171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:22:12 quintopia: that's *very* harsh, and IMO goes against the intent of my polarity system < 1339722503 18933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:22:27 beating an opponent should be considered atomically, without regard to the matches that make up that result < 1339722562 597164 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1339722786 573807 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1339723219 382963 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1339725376 281416 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339725867 526854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1339725918 629658 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-139-191.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1339725919 169599 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1339725948 511406 :pikhq!~pikhq@174.22.151.52 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339726028 986779 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suddenly wish I were writing this wiki page in Finnish. < 1339726047 33533 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to say "this is a blog_PARTITIVE I wrote". < 1339726093 977303 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go. "An unfinished blog I wrote". < 1339726385 233423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1339726462 933367 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes. that is what you said. i, of course, believe you are wrong and that winner-take-all does a poor job of capturing the quality of a warrior. care to elaborate? < 1339726469 915973 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia TOPIC #esoteric :forking | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/HJWG < 1339726502 39272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because if something beats everything on the hill < 1339726508 469930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter if it draws most of its matches and wins one else < 1339726515 149582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still a really good program < 1339726624 141545 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so? i think that a program that that crushes all top ten warriors and loses by one to everything else on the hill is better than your hypothetical all-narrow-margins warrior < 1339726668 9742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehh < 1339726669 17885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good program is not one that can win on one length and polarity. it is a program that consistently wins in all conditions. < 1339726672 478430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll let ais523 argue this one < 1339726688 341991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i strongly dislike your version < 1339726701 711019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point of testing on all polarities and tape lengths < 1339726707 476361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is to remove random effects from consideration < 1339726708 352325 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 said he thinks my version gives better rankings < 1339726713 134902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and smooth out such things < 1339726720 957588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that doesn't mean it couldn't be improved < 1339726731 420173 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 NICK :MDude < 1339726739 809833 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the winner-take-all property of the current hill is the number one reason it gives *poor* rankings < 1339726743 881083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1339726745 441443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i was saying < 1339726750 408004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : the point of testing on all polarities and tape lengths < 1339726750 711234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : is to remove random effects from consideration < 1339726751 31654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : and smooth out such things < 1339726753 444474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to give finer-grained ratings < 1339726759 983459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of it as a superposition win-or-lose < 1339726765 244819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on all possible random choices of tape length/polraity < 1339726766 643942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*polarity < 1339726768 951155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what was done beforehand < 1339726793 612038 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like you are arguing my side :P < 1339726807 290961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1339726808 724058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not < 1339726829 318694 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say that an "mbyte" is a digit in base 257. < 1339726852 337961 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible to encode 177 mbytes in 177 bytes and one bit. It is not possible to encode 178 mbytes in 178 bytes and one bit. < 1339726867 232185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you SURE < 1339726873 941719 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reasonably. < 1339726899 335202 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program that draws on all but one tape length and polarity would have been recorded as a *draw* on the old system: the odds are just stacked that way. if you want to smooth out things, your scoring system should consider all tape lengths and polarities, not just the one length and polarity that happens to barely push one program ahead of the other. < 1339726924 225400 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: proof? < 1339726945 381183 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot believe that there are MPs who have not missed a vote. < 1339726959 454040 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 257^177 < 2^(8*177+1), but 257^178 > 2^(8*178+1). < 1339727021 750517 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also cannot believe that the house has actually had two >24 hour sittings this Parliament) < 1339727041 993858 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This makes me wonder, how simple could you make a circuit that encodes 177 mbytes in 177 bytes and a bit, and then decodes them? < 1339727045 303892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: OK, I'm fine changing the behaviour of draws. < 1339727050 430420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as the result is considered atomically. < 1339727147 109082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 177 * logBase 2 257 < 1339727148 292394 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1416.9955452073166 < 1339727172 69639 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you or are you not saying you are fine with letting victories count for more proportional to the margin of victory? < 1339727173 450235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1417 `divMod` 8 < 1339727174 813203 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (177,1) < 1339727188 890509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 178 * logBase 2 257 < 1339727190 92921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1425.0011697565105 < 1339727200 710862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1426 `divMod` 8 < 1339727201 946222 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (178,2) < 1339727219 595577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty close. < 1339727223 249141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not really < 1339727230 296824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: im ok requiring wins>draws or whatever though < 1339727238 284156 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the way that densely packed decimal works, encoding three decimal digits in ten bits. < 1339727338 179921 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 1000 < 1339727339 102391 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9.965784284662087 < 1339727353 923306 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what do you do with the other .034 bits? < 1339727376 878321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: encoding/decoding is really just base conversion < 1339727401 545435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :between binary and base 257 < 1339727420 361280 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's one way to implement it, yes, but it's not very interesting. < 1339727437 401490 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the use of an mbyte < 1339727469 414585 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DPD is more interesting than base conversion. The decimal digits 0abc, 0def, and 0ghi are encoded as 0abcdefghi; the decimal digits 0abc, 0def, and 100g are encoded as 101abcdefg; and so on. < 1339727491 115288 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now just figure out what the Chicago rapit transit system "and so on" means. < 1339727501 657165 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: as far as I know, there isn't any. < 1339727511 194217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mbytes have many uses. < 1339727523 816960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, encoding 178 bytes and 1 bit < 1339727583 697178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hm ok so you want to replace that with 0abcdefgh and 1000000 (only one option for the 1 version) < 1339727595 286736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1339727598 380929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*100000000 < 1339727811 993237 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, if you're encoding just one mbyte. < 1339727827 972359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: no i meant you want to use a similar scheme < 1339727835 672818 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Yeah, I guess so. < 1339727873 343437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 0 case looks trivially convertible that way < 1339727891 573442 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encoding two mbytes, you can say... let me use . to mean "grab a digit from a non-256 mbyte". < 1339727913 642969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: um i am thinking specifically of the 177 case, which as you say should just fit < 1339727941 76877 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm. < 1339727958 112945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess you might have an induction which only runs out of spare room when you hit 178 < 1339728009 763287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should just fit? < 1339728013 966878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't it "just not fit"? < 1339728022 279217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no that was 178 < 1339728047 757805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wasn't there an extra bit? < 1339728058 182597 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so how can you encode 177 of them? If they're all non-256, you can encode them as 0 followed by all of them. If exactly one of them is non-256, you can encode them as 1, followed by eight bits to determine *which* one is non-256, followed by all the non-256 ones. < 1339728096 941336 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The eight bits won't be "used up", however; you're just using them to encode a number from 0 to 176. If the number is from 177 to 255, that indicates that you have more information. < 1339728103 253883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, you have 117 bytes + 1 bit, and making that one bit 0 gives you the case of all mbytes <= 256 exactly as with that DPD thing above < 1339728121 437869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PART :#esoteric < 1339728123 387487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's DPD? < 1339728141 821435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "above". < 1339728153 507025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, densley pcaked decimel. < 1339728159 973593 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, suppose exactly two of them are non-256. You have two digits you can use to specify which two: one (255-177+1) = base-79 digit, and one base-256 digit. < 1339728222 777222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 256 * 255 `div` 2 < 1339728223 859094 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 32640 < 1339728245 761859 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can store any of 20224 values in your two digits. But you only actually need (177 choose 2) = 15576; the remaining 4648 possible values you can reserve for if there are three or more 256s. < 1339728253 491488 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so on. < 1339728276 469344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Something is suspicious there. < 1339728285 554118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: right but this is not going to give a simple scheme for finding the prefixes < 1339728291 138823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need the -- oh. < 1339728305 246824 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this raises a question. What's the most natural way to encode a base-(177 choose 2) digit as a base-79 digit and a base-256 digit? < 1339728346 857552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: mixed base conversion >:P < 1339728393 823655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the less headroom you have, the more complicated the scheme probably needs to be, and closer to base conversion < 1339728433 927458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 256 * 79 < 1339728435 186412 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20224 < 1339728436 710670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that you _do_ run out with 178 might mean there's no simple recursive scheme < 1339728480 508437 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm guessing that there is a simple recursive scheme somewhere, but it doesn't terminate if you ask it to, say, encode seven base-2 digits in three base-5 digits. < 1339728490 335738 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339728605 800346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: there is an _intuitively_ simple scheme ... for n 256-mbytes, just allocate the first prefixes of 8n+1 bytes which have _not_ been ruled out by choices for < n < 1339728623 166534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not obviously simpler to calculate than a base conversion, is all < 1339728649 799432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bytes/bits/ < 1339728665 72777 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote add Ah, densley pcaked decimel. < 1339728667 494116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with a base conversion? < 1339728668 716227 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1339728672 938236 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Ah, densley pcaked decimel. < 1339728675 981149 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :844) Ah, densley pcaked decimel. < 1339728680 597209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: :-( < 1339728693 917081 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they're boring, and they don't preserve the input bits. < 1339728702 86216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so n=0 allocates 0; n=1 allocates 100000000 .. whatever 256+176 is, etc. < 1339728703 751466 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "they" means "a base conversion". < 1339728718 575743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 844 < 1339728722 142714 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. < 1339728737 564871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS! < 1339728800 813479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that scheme obviously uses the space as efficiently as possible, since only one bit sequence is allocated per mbyte sequence < 1339728873 172628 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS! < 1339728876 253054 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :844) `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS! < 1339728893 19536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 844 < 1339728896 449606 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS! < 1339728910 312509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :failed to follow quoting standards. resubmit for further consideration < 1339728931 589536 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. i put the two spaces in where you like them. jeez. < 1339728936 197599 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, let's take a simpler problem. Encode 19 bits in 12 trits. < 1339728989 436620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: incorrect < 1339728998 937791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the only violation is due to HackEgo's *poof* syntax < 1339729010 508623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be misquoting to correct that < 1339729030 536751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with HackEgo's *poof* syntax? < 1339729036 608948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, hmm < 1339729043 784572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the committee decided in error < 1339729049 135666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please accept our apologies and this free gift card < 1339729051 296545 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote awesome < 1339729054 788712 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :78) [Warrigal] `addquote hahaha, Lawlabee is running windows 'cuz it's pretty awesome. [Lawlabee] Warrigal: :( \ 117) AnMaster: to any airbus plane. 3 passengers sadly died the most awesome thing ever. \ 284) addquoting yourself? isn't that like commenting on your own facebook status? Yup, but I'm JUST THAT AWESOME. \ 341) [on Sgeo's karaoke] Sgeo: < 1339729055 749053 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's why i resubmitted it in PM < 1339729058 171840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 844 < 1339729061 702959 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS! < 1339729065 874048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1339729067 986321 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1339729069 856021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: good thing i have a log < 1339729071 984411 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, quote 78 is an example of... a class containing it. < 1339729074 843017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 844 < 1339729077 501938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the committee does not accept insubordination < 1339729077 911272 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1339729111 514909 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the committee has been fired by the comittee < 1339729125 877350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm quotes.new < 1339729129 27581 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1339729130 405661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug in delquote < 1339729168 704636 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: delquote 844 < 1339729169 233690 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: never had a problem < 1339729178 646980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fungot < 1339729179 700890 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah kind like ocaml then... good idea!! why don't i post it to the lambda < 1339729185 75524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote `delquote 844 ​*poof* `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS < 1339729187 886676 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :844) `delquote 844 ​*poof* `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS < 1339729190 763604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 844 < 1339729194 188968 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* `delquote 844 ​*poof* `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS < 1339729198 105019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1339729200 473087 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1339729204 647693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 844 < 1339729207 362660 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :844) `delquote 844 ​*poof* `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS < 1339729208 529404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 844 < 1339729211 31600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please just stop. < 1339729212 480118 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* `delquote 844 ​*poof* `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS < 1339729216 407950 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, encoding 19 bits in 12 trits. We find the biggest obvious common subset: 12 bits. Copy it over. Now we have two sets: (19 bits, at least one of the first 7 of which is 1), and (12 trits, at least one of which is 2). < 1339729229 514685 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, uh, I don't know how to proceed. < 1339729230 726620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :NOW WITH EDIT WARS | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/HJWG < 1339729232 288948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1339729233 763157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sotp < 1339729234 762823 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1339729234 953858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stop < 1339729244 537687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Please kick elliott and/or me. < 1339729244 728513 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. What does `revert do? < 1339729247 887489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 844 < 1339729251 681747 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* `delquote 844 ​*poof* `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS < 1339729314 191537 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote `delquote 844 ​*poof* `delquote 844 ​*poof* `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS < 1339729315 771274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Reverts the last hg commit. < 1339729318 344133 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :844) `delquote 844 ​*poof* `delquote 844 ​*poof* `delquote 844 *poof* Ah, densley pcaked decimel. TAKE THAT, DENSLEY PCACKED DECIBELS < 1339729341 795223 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1339729342 281206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If you keep donig it, Gregor will just make HackEgo ignore you. < 1339729344 453340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't be the first. < 1339729347 820522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 844 < 1339729350 802901 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1339729356 674129 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor is not here < 1339729358 560956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'all're just being unpleasant. < 1339729371 989932 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1339729375 63766 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1339729381 523505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mad
< 1339729382 128549 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wanted to check ! < 1339729410 520543 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :delquote is a terrible feature. would prefer no deleting but with quote karma and quotes sorted by karma and random quotes selected proportional to karma :D < 1339729433 773215 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1339729436 576582 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :740) oh jesus my mother is trying to ship bear grylls with miranda hart aerio;jghaeirugha < 1339729436 817274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Stop. < 1339729473 938125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No. You're just being stubborn for the sake of being annoying. I'm just being stubborn for the sake of not being quoted there. < 1339729484 250609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My ground is morally superior to your ground. < 1339729528 752226 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what if your name is replaces in the quote with [some guy]? < 1339729531 719255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, I revert people who are worrying with the bots idiotically < 1339729533 491380 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with shachaf's stubbornness. I do not agree with elliott's stubbornness. < 1339729549 809424 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But let me suggest a compromise. < 1339729550 929791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about the quote at all, but you just delete evrey quote with your name in it, so... < 1339729554 178845 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote becal pckecibedecimacibedey d pakely pckensensly d dely decimecked pacimakecal dey < 1339729557 59812 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :844) becal pckecibedecimacibedey d pakely pckensensly d dely decimecked pacimakecal dey < 1339729558 803190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's not true at all. < 1339729563 201710 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, my compromise sucks. < 1339729564 357838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That particular quote is bad. < 1339729567 460628 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is everyone being stupid with quote < 1339729568 906409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shachaf < 1339729571 465989 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1339729571 656469 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a bad quote < 1339729589 23852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care about bad quotes in HackEgo *or* my quotes in HackEgo, taken individually. < 1339729592 527749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't like the combination. < 1339729606 253122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shachaf < 1339729609 397417 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :581) elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. \ 624) Real Tar is GNU tar. You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. \ 659) VMS Mosaic? I hope that's not Mosaic ported to VMS. Hmm. It's Mosaic ported to VMS. < 1339729623 18642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those quotes are all bad, for what it's worth. < 1339729626 865007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1339729638 362607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shachaf < 1339729641 425867 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1339729642 545692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shachaf < 1339729646 152764 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :581) elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. \ 624) Real Tar is GNU tar. You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. \ 659) VMS Mosaic? I hope that's not Mosaic ported to VMS. Hmm. It's Mosaic ported to VMS. < 1339729657 685580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quachaf < 1339729661 707028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn end-of-line space < 1339729701 616778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoerjan < 1339729906 775338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote primate < 1339729909 791842 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :794) elliott: Apparently Rowan Williams is Primate of All England. CHECKMATE CREATIONISTS < 1339729943 258081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd otherwise have guessed rowan atkinson < 1339729982 888138 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm guessing 'quote [something] pulls up an arbitrary quote with [something] in it? < 1339729990 109069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: yes, unless [something] is a number < 1339729995 49699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ` not ' < 1339729999 145990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1339729999 436627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"arbitrary" < 1339730002 77553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by arbitrary < 1339730004 717092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean "every" < 1339730011 503228 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote horrors < 1339730014 148887 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :215) Is there a name for something where I'm more attracted to someone if I know they've had a rough past? Sgeo, "Little Shop of Horrors" < 1339730031 716751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monqy < 1339730035 264231 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :307) I've only watched bad movies about video game. I enjoyed every second of it. \ 346) my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup \ 349) `quote django < 1339730048 924721 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brisnging up all sachaf quotes dind't bring up the primate one. < 1339730065 869790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :346: best quote or bestest quote? < 1339730068 562130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: length cutoff < 1339730084 845561 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude, pastequotes < 1339730090 304877 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO it's arbitrary, depending on how htey're sorted. < 1339730097 116954 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*they're < 1339730117 224881 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'quote bear < 1339730124 192331 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1339730133 948512 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote bear < 1339730136 826667 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :47) If I ever made a game where you jabbed bears ... I'd call it jabbear. \ 193) "* There is no scientifically-justifiable reason to exclude pornography, which is a vital part of the web ecosystem. However, bear in mind that we're tracing JavaScript, not MPEG and JPEG decoding." ^^^ This bullet-point is my crowning achievement as as a scientist. \ 245) who is guido < 1339730147 815431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's just `quote without an argument which chooses randomly, i think < 1339730195 222604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote django < 1339730197 957814 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :297) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 348) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one \ 349) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something < 1339730211 971806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 349 < 1339730214 862016 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :349) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 407) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one thankfully only two < 1339730218 827324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's cpressey? < 1339730231 562650 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one < 1339730233 74581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1339730258 481434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf doesn't know who cpressey is! impostor! < 1339730270 19821 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A printing press for making C-related documentaiton, maybe. < 1339730309 638486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes django < 1339730312 809730 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1855 < 1339730319 710971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew there were more < 1339730329 406882 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe something liek a Cypress tree. < 1339730349 266063 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :k-d trees are better < 1339730525 722732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1339730528 163356 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/parlvu/ContentEntityDetailView.aspx?ContentEntityId=9203 < 1339731161 317654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hi < 1339731230 648270 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339731233 704413 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 hours of voting < 1339731299 880037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339731326 360274 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, looks like Canada still exists. < 1339731352 326443 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmed < 1339731397 861098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im surprised < 1339731401 316849 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems to contradict the measurement that the Earth was destroyed some time ago. :| < 1339731484 523547 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I"ll have to sleep on this. < 1339731488 102772 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 NICK :MDoze < 1339731495 957343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop reminding me i havent finished reading fine structure yet < 1339731503 657637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ban MDoze :'( < 1339731567 548057 :MDoze!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait what's fine structure. < 1339731596 410818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDoze: Serialised novel by Sam Hughes, the Earth Destruction Advisory Board guy. < 1339731602 276912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also the How to Destroy the Earth guy and so on.) < 1339731609 719919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qntm.org/structure < 1339731625 129211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's good, at least what I've read of it. < 1339731639 517771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also good is its predecessor, http://qntm.org/ed. I haven't read his newest thing yet.) < 1339731823 378329 :MDoze!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like some things I'd be interested in. < 1339731838 791023 :MDoze!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now to actually get ready for bed. < 1339731927 960483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1339732064 573859 :comex!~comex@ec2-50-19-141-233.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1339732164 410123 :MDoze!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339732928 80848 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1339733717 584335 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1339734296 673748 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1339734820 641614 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-161-243.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339734916 572533 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1339734969 93238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1339734969 284100 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Fri Jun 15 05:37:31 < 1339734980 516638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it called if you have a category C and D having a functor from C to D leaving objects alone, and from D to C translating objects? I notice you can do this with Kleisli categories resulting in the endofunctor of the monad < 1339735016 153125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Maybe ##categorytheory would know? < 1339735023 219365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to work with comonads too < 1339735095 628626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe #haskell would know < 1339735292 608521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They didn't know < 1339735300 390436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1339736218 723139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they don't know < 1339736275 695577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1339736530 5126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My other question was to make up a lens of two categories c1 and c2, where newtype Lens c1 c2 x y = Lens (c1 x (c2 y x, y)) < 1339736537 823145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They didn't know that either < 1339736545 149111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1339736635 41564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1339736636 672245 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Thu Jun 14 22:03:55 2012 < 1339736637 16359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time elliott < 1339736637 207459 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Fri Jun 15 06:05:19 < 1339736638 277076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time zzo38 < 1339736638 667914 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for zzo38 is 2012/06/14 21:53:15 -0700 < 1339738584 710090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1339738585 55844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Fri Jun 15 06:37:47 < 1339738587 530076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1339738642 294195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339738746 376678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :info -> fal < 1339739099 335715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339739549 70034 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you guys ready for this awesomeness? < 1339739555 934607 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_elevator http://sprunge.us/QNXF < 1339739565 458179 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_elevator: 58.6 < 1339739590 326585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree/disagree this? http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=9722591#p9722591 < 1339739661 26797 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia TOPIC #esoteric :NOW WITH EDIT WARS | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/JFWU < 1339739993 804741 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_elevator http://sprunge.us/THRA < 1339739996 678182 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_elevator: 59.7 < 1339740509 224575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1339740982 258087 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia TOPIC #esoteric :NOW WITH EDIT WARS | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/ejMG < 1339741510 100622 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1339741510 862912 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1339741806 494024 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leepaidamba makes the ingenious argument that no one can ever be sure of anything. as we all know, this needs to be said at least once a week, so i totally agree with him. < 1339742255 463088 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It not only turned out one of the axioms was not an axiom at all, but even that another was simply wrong." what do these refer to? for the parallel postulate it turned out that it in fact *was* an axiom (once people stopped being retarded and stopped fearing that god would punish them if they came up with new mathematical objects), so it turned out EG was in fact perfect. < 1339742267 454942 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what are the two axioms? < 1339742412 744060 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If we have to make anything extinct, it is the human we should extinct." this is wrong, animals are worthless compared to humans < 1339742465 724053 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as a species, lives i don't give a shit about) < 1339742609 734654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know what "It not only turned out one of the axioms was not an axiom at all, but even that another was simply wrong." refers to either. < 1339742701 283079 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it refers to "God exists." < 1339742830 84860 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to me this is refering to geometry, but I don't know what axioms are being refered to here. < 1339743102 882033 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i mean is Leepaidamba doesn't know what he's talking about, he recalled that there was some history around and about euclidean geometry that was useful for making his argument that you can't even be sure about mathematics (and thus god exists), and he chose the details of that history so his argument would sound the nicest. < 1339743306 48857 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1339743361 424273 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm going to russia, and for the visa they need to know the dates of my previous visit < 1339743372 526826 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you were about 3" -- my parents < 1339743921 311112 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339745624 300176 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1339745627 341440 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1339745627 532522 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1339745640 315664 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339749552 134595 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1339749552 361443 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1339749552 361520 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1339749732 240646 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339749900 601597 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1339753230 473959 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.115.178.251 QUIT :Quit: http://retroprogramming.com < 1339753389 335022 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1339753389 566167 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1339753389 566269 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1339753421 236154 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339754127 297227 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339754164 707033 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1339754853 688512 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339755968 635337 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-129-62.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1339756347 335173 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339756468 634737 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-129-152.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339756755 549476 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooom < 1339756857 149885 :Deewiant_!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339756925 208330 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1339757239 831472 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 NICK :MDude < 1339761175 838106 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone used leptonica lib? < 1339761309 357637 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1339761309 549020 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1339761309 549158 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1339761357 314159 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339764321 34804 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1339764395 678296 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339764864 765964 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shit, that Elder Scrolls lore IAmA guy died?? < 1339765431 377923 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, IAmA? < 1339765445 43109 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reddit thing? < 1339765462 514154 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh I guess I completely missed that (since I don't read reddit) < 1339765537 68009 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well not the iama thing, that sounds familiar when you mentioned reddit) < 1339765547 905569 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I mean the elder scrolls lore iama thingy) < 1339765640 135894 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@65-128-161-243.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339765706 244262 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, do you happen to know a good disk usage viewer for windows. Like showing a pie chart or something to visualize how much different subdirectories use. Gnome 2 has a most excellent tool for that. So I'm looking for something similar for windows < 1339765723 221046 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WinDirStat. < 1339765728 942075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, will google it < 1339765730 918420 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking for the same thing just the other day. < 1339765770 312760 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :c:\Programs Files (x86) is 78 GB, so I want to find out why < 1339765778 247662 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steam? < 1339765781 504895 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably Steam. < 1339765797 667593 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-161-243.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1339765822 417151 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, steam is just about 37 GB (skyrim is on an ssd using the symbolic link thingy of NTFS) < 1339765836 466558 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err I meant 47 < 1339765852 211701 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a large gap there < 1339766046 654126 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, turned out the GoG.com directory was largest, followed by Steam. < 1339766069 256063 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like you could've worked that out just by using sort by size. < 1339766109 78425 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, hm I thought windows explorer didn't recursively calculate directory size for sorting/detailed list purposes? < 1339766113 687120 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it didn't under xp < 1339766125 787208 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I never checked if it changed under windows 7 < 1339766134 765964 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, it doesn't calculate directory size. < 1339766137 833972 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows :') < 1339766139 548979 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it doesn't < 1339766153 486969 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, anyway the graph this program generates is pretty < 1339766194 816974 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the colour is file type, right < 1339766217 178644 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit hard to get it to show a pie chart though. < 1339766231 824682 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it be done? < 1339766438 49187 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can turn off hiberfile.sys, that is 16 GB wasted, since I never suspend to disk on that computer. < 1339766497 752015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "powercfg /hibernate off" < 1339766520 277901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For an official source, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920730 has it as the "let me fix it myself" solution.) < 1339766520 998659 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, in xp it used to be just a checkbox in the control panel < 1339766736 875262 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems on c:\ I have a total of 15.1 GB of *.dll < 1339766738 584028 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1339766890 982890 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 102.7MB of .so < 1339766907 206010 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :c:\Users is 139 GB. < 1339766997 99227 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : /home is 2.6GB < 1339767078 502121 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my laptop I'm not sure I could sensibly measure that stuff. I have some loop mounts of squashfs for stuff like NwN static data or the intel c compiler. < 1339767092 996685 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1339767219 909146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This work-workstation has 1302114840 bytes (about 1.2G) of files ending ".so" in /usr. I'm slightly curious about how many there would be in total in the filesystem tree, but it would probably take far too long to scan through all the network mounts. < 1339767265 296385 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you could scan /home and /lib as well, that should cover almost everything else that is local surely. Maybe /opt too < 1339767266 55903 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, doesn't locate index that kind of thing? < 1339767288 579429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The locatedb doesn't have anything non-local, sadly. < 1339767294 462206 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc locate doesn't index the size though, so you would still have to stat() everything < 1339767325 511135 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my laptop /home is 91 GB (with the squashfs loop mounts unmounted < 1339767329 407501 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1339767374 743608 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, I just saved 1.3 GB by removing vcredist and directx setup files from the steam games (those are only used on first run) < 1339767406 546654 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why couldn't it provide one shared version of those common dependencies, rather than download a copy with each game. < 1339767442 147961 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :would save download time at the very least < 1339767444 652656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/PfWV -- distribution of .so across top-level directories. < 1339767473 460344 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, /users? That is an unusual setup < 1339767486 236442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a local disk. < 1339767493 771101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas /home is in the netwerk. < 1339767511 295985 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also *.so is mostly symlinks when under /usr, probably to libfoo.so.1.2.3 < 1339767513 554928 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and such < 1339767527 210240 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it isn't all that easy to count actually < 1339767564 888661 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you usually have multiple symlinks to each real .so < 1339767600 421695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also tried to do a "du -hs /share/matlab/" to see how hilariously much of MATLAB there is, but it's been running for over 15 minutes now and doesn't seem to be finishing any time soon. < 1339767623 337718 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably due to network? < 1339767662 181161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's MATLAB versions R2009a, R2009b, R2010a, R2010b, R2011a and R2012a in there. < 1339767667 84026 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... < 1339767673 993199 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why more than one version? < 1339767674 413563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combined they probably take quite a bit of space. < 1339767698 618798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just in case someone still needs the old versions, presumably. < 1339767735 406339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ongoing experiments and whatnot, maybe someone doesn't want to disk changes in results due to changes in whatever. < 1339767813 58848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/disk/risk/ < 1339767938 801333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hey. < 1339767939 846541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ du -hs /share/matlab/ < 1339767940 37433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :24G /share/matlab/ < 1339767945 923044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not *so* terribly much. < 1339767993 824487 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, which one is largest and what size is that one? < 1339768012 497747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I so don't want to re-run it for the individual directories. < 1339768029 485272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guesstimate they're all the same order of magnitude, more or less. < 1339768046 379521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We used to have nice pages listing which research groups wastes most space on the shared project disk(s), but I think those no longer auto-update. < 1339768125 541831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually the link even 404s now. A shame. < 1339768161 247955 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1339768796 874963 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1339768797 206964 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1339768797 398435 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1339768871 517868 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1339768952 299178 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339770407 906495 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339770664 796480 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1339770690 639488 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339770823 86310 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1339770966 136726 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339771148 512690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339771996 678033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1339772346 281291 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooo < 1339772882 382466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh, fix glogbot already. < 1339773035 501530 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Gregor have you done anything to fix your bot? < 1339773035 692861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1339773104 413643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: You realise he's not here, right? < 1339773185 375097 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1339773868 979332 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, good to be back online < 1339774702 622976 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339775280 882042 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1339775412 926658 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1339778351 678568 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1339778367 582732 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1339778948 600192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: bonjour. < 1339778969 143059 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :vous parlez le français? < 1339779099 993187 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oui, je suis francophone. < 1339779132 806831 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it okay with the ops/mods/higher channel entities to have a quick conversation in French with a mysterious testing guy?) < 1339779149 935177 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :J'espère < 1339779167 947787 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ne regardez pas mon nom :p < 1339779175 642352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that absolutely nothing else is happening, I don't see why not. < 1339779176 269178 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339779197 25336 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also note that I do speak English too :p) < 1339779218 135443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :je vais écouter avec l'expédient utile de google traduction < 1339779235 894886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :il pourrait ne pas fonctionner terriblement bien < 1339779246 875918 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oui, je vois cela < 1339779247 201816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :français est bizarre < 1339779257 781806 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :je vais essayer de ne pas trop utiliser d'expressions locales. < 1339779277 413128 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :profitons-en pour mieux nous connaître! < 1339779288 725742 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: d'où viens-tu? < 1339779302 590924 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je ne suis pas de France moi-même, donc ne pensez pas que je parle le français super-bien < 1339779307 270222 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je viens de Belge < 1339779313 526122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :langues sont confus: ( < 1339779314 660331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate a déplacé les yeux de mon smiley pour quelque raison < 1339779314 850777 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Et vous? < 1339779352 611183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :je suis québécois, à montréal. < 1339779367 690739 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1339779387 125151 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je connais quelqu'un qui vient à monréal < 1339779394 903669 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*va < 1339779402 473578 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oops) < 1339779487 539789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ça fait presqu'un an que j'y habite. j'aime bien la ville, même si les étés sont un peu trop chauds pour moi. < 1339779491 133856 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1339779521 939051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :à quoi ressemble le climat en belgique? < 1339779536 383608 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Il pleut beaucoup < 1339779546 905152 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :enfin, je pense cela < 1339779557 646470 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339779579 14058 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mais, en étant honnête, le climat est assez beau < 1339779595 226189 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :il n'est pas trop chaud, ni trop froid < 1339779605 890332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... c'est tentant de venir visiter une fois. < 1339779614 883906 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vous savez que est-ce que bjfoust est? < 1339779621 115677 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je me demande :| < 1339779678 380353 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339779680 657956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'est une compétition en brainfuck. < 1339779686 383080 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1339779696 305586 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :les participants essaient de mettre le «drapeau» de l'autre à 0. < 1339779701 362269 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1339779703 917747 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je pensais quelque chose come ça déja < 1339779710 938428 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*comme < 1339779723 99928 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*déjà ;( < 1339779726 636059 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you talking French in this channel? < 1339779729 959009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: pour la discussion en anglais, voir #esoteric-en! < 1339779734 716648 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :P < 1339779746 195860 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339779755 726844 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, parce que... < 1339779757 423343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie approved our conversation, so we were idling in French. < 1339779765 124554 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cela je pense... < 1339779771 952967 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :et comme AnotherTest a dit, «à cause...» < 1339779776 660590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :je souhaite fizzie approuvé mes conversations: ( < 1339779793 888464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate has a hard time parsing emotes... < 1339779795 521447 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Il faut que j'aille manger < 1339779798 740073 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I played a (very small) bit of Planescape and while it does seem to have a great story and setting the gameplay annoys me too much < 1339779803 600485 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :je dois retourner travailler. < 1339779804 545902 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Salut < 1339779810 240505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :à la prochaine! < 1339779819 771786 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oui! < 1339779874 54220 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1339779889 14925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I approve of your message. < 1339779901 870571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: merci < 1339779905 858596 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also one thing I noticed is that while the lack of any sort of map markers telling me where I need to go increases the immerseiveness (is that a word?), such features do help keep up the pacing of the game. < 1339779929 864131 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this game have that feature, at least not from what I have seen so far < 1339779934 276735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Si c'est un mot, il n'a pas «seive» en elle. < 1339779962 212254 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm not going to bother trying to translate that. < 1339779980 398829 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seive??? < 1339780021 838779 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is a word, he does not have tree sap in her??? < 1339780066 578701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1339780074 574881 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Found terminal < 1339780082 930772 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpale: Lorsque vous regardez quelqu'un jouer que Star Wars MMO, j'ai commencé à réfléchir à la façon étrange, il semblait que les membres du parti déplacé sur la carte en temps réel. < 1339780091 441064 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339780094 70737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: J'ai traduit «If it's a word, it doesn't have "sieve" in it.» et que c'est ce qu'il m'a donné. < 1339780098 455165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The battling sort of the gameplay is kinda-sorta "meh", yes. There's not terribly much of it, though. < 1339780099 699343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*seive < 1339780115 166683 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right, are there any quest markers, any map even? < 1339780116 918652 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sur demande je vais m'arrêter déblayage environ avec Google Translate. < 1339780124 749703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Re «immerseiveness (is that a word?)». < 1339780145 133322 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also why is the inventory display 2x2 squares :( < 1339780173 280410 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when interacting with chest-like stuff < 1339780174 997554 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1339780195 214514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't recall gameplay details at all. I doubt there's any quest markers. You can open a Torment map on another computer, though. < 1339780204 911194 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: on demand I will stop myself plow about with Google Translate. < 1339780214 339276 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339780215 392311 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1339780222 167465 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1339780226 965057 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also holding shift to sprint (instead of walking super slowly) is annoying. A toggle would be far superior (like caps lock is used in oblivion and skyrim) < 1339780308 701458 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i will give up and use English ! < 1339780328 350647 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :less pain all-round < 1339780380 167879 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: When watching someone playing that Star Wars MMO, I started to think about how odd it looked having the party members moving about the map individually in real time < 1339780387 386592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There are some mods that more or less make it possible to play with higher resolutions, incidentally. It may make things better; more visibility on screen, certainly. < 1339780410 518729 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as contrasted with the way one sprite represents the entire party in most final fantasy games < 1339780442 627806 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339780453 820621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I mostly followed the http://www.gog.com/en/news/mod_spotlight_planescape_torment_mods_guide/ way of playing. It starts with the resolution/UI bits, then adds some unofficial fixes. < 1339780471 685426 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: When watching someone playing that Star Wars MMO, I started to think about how odd it looked having the party members moving about the map individually in real time <-- what? < 1339780483 659695 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that odd? < 1339780513 815461 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i grew up with games where the party is represented by a single avatar < 1339780517 803391 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say the one-sprite thing is stranger unless it is a sprite showing several people (like in avernum overworld) < 1339780583 402132 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what I find interesting about it is how easy it was as a player of such games to accept that the single avatar represented an entire party < 1339780608 644467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh I can't use the scroll wheel in this game, it is too old to support that < 1339780669 287255 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter how well intentioned it is, an npc party moving about freely just can't hide it's artificiality < 1339780799 415746 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an extaordinary leap of imagination that the game asks that a single avatar moving about a tiled map having random encounters represents a party of warriors stumbling upon monsters in the wilderness < 1339780853 552275 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... i haven't really said much of anything with so many words.. i would make an excellent politician < 1339780961 702931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't think I've seen a mod for that for Torment, sadly. (There was one for some other game.) < 1339781286 817445 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1339781295 175061 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah the UI is in general terribly annoying < 1339781408 906675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall it being terribly different from the usual sort of Infinity Engine stuff. < 1339781534 195966 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339781544 320000 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1339781596 742851 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any difference between @ask and @tell < 1339781602 894056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask quintopia Is there? < 1339781603 433377 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1339781607 870566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia Maybe there is. < 1339781608 300391 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1339781614 803910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now type @messages. < 1339781618 550430 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1339781618 742421 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 12d 21h 36m 57s ago: no < 1339781618 742601 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 10d 21h 48m 49s ago: hi a little bit later. < 1339781618 742698 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 4d 10h 33m 17s ago: To clarify, I don't run EgoBot and have no ability to instal lanything on it. < 1339781618 742796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 4d 15m 55s ago: Yes. < 1339781618 742956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 4d 15m 38s ago: How does the proposed hill differ from the current one? I'm lazy. < 1339781620 581186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 4d 15m 33s ago: Ranking-wise. < 1339781622 575400 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 15s ago: Is there? < 1339781624 586845 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 11s ago: Maybe there is. < 1339781628 916933 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1339781629 988084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1339781660 403500 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats missing is @rejoinder < 1339781661 675155 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna go with "no" < 1339781669 618602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1339781671 619722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you blind? < 1339781672 835718 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :superficial differences are lame < 1339781689 613895 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339781694 883687 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott rejoined 4d 15m 33s ago: Ranking-wise. < 1339781715 402481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rejoin every time there is a netsplit < 1339781722 431132 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not sure if im using these words right < 1339781734 493721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Okay, yes, now that I look at some screenshots, the container interface thing is a bit lame. Sadly (but understandably), I don't think the high-resolution mod manages to improve on that. < 1339781740 551020 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're very rare words probably only ever found in the translation of war and peace < 1339781883 786891 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got to page 30! < 1339781909 936292 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my former record was page 12 < 1339781965 520042 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :of what? < 1339781974 385341 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :war and peace reading < 1339781981 427652 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it hard to read < 1339782008 458756 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... i think i can find relevant youtube < 1339782065 931888 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i can't < 1339782082 668013 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's problems are 3 < 1339782135 683466 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the english translation i have: 1) it has a lot of pages 2) each page has a lot of words 3) you really do need a dictionary at your side < 1339782150 370866 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a better vocabulary < 1339782153 977198 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because i'm the sort of loser who thinks it's fun to talk about something i failed at < 1339782192 462026 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just not much of a book reader... but honestly few people are < 1339782304 277074 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a veritable mt everest of literature < 1339782362 71171 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the fact that most ofl the characters have russian surnames adds to the fun < 1339782398 838018 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right < 1339782450 890724 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway the game feels too slow paced so far IMO. Also a lot of the UI is clunky. While I'm sure the story and atmosphere is good I think I'm going to skip this game. < 1339782625 932875 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which game? < 1339782655 523685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :planescape? < 1339782716 832366 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339782959 564640 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B1319DC.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339783245 336738 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, the story isn't normally described as 'good'. < 1339783257 650314 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Best' is normally involved somewhere. < 1339784204 498748 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_elevator http://sprunge.us/chTZ < 1339784213 881319 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_elevator: 59.8 < 1339784275 830929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2_0_0, eh? < 1339784291 27690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This looks a lot different to the spelevator of yore. < 1339784412 924442 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is only a 0.7 improvement to the one resulting in the report in the topic < 1339784427 679809 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fixes a bug) < 1339784440 852364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "of yore", I mean the original. < 1339784470 887655 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed by "of yore" you meant "i didn't see it when you first submitted 2.0.0 to the hill" < 1339784591 247694 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, right < 1339784606 210446 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, point is the interface is utterly clunky. < 1339785213 212102 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD Vorpal you're such a CASUAL < 1339785657 119993 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, no, casual is not related to terrible interface. I would be casual if I said the game was too hard or too complex for example < 1339785759 270798 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just can't play a game without it babystepping you through the interface. < 1339786080 213996 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, what was that supposed to mean? < 1339786120 653860 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, I'm not talking about needing a tutorial for the interface. The interface is simply badly designed and annoying to use. < 1339786139 937521 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the combat is terrible. < 1339786702 969441 :rvchangue!~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue JOIN :#esoteric < 1339787783 432103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1339787923 632801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a category has more than one final object, I think then that category would have more than one Finalize monad. < 1339787938 550015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if there is more than one initial object then it has more than one Initialize comonad. < 1339788232 493920 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-23-44.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1339789162 39774 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95F4B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339789604 345285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1339789921 854226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "If we have to make anything extinct, it is the human we should extinct." this is wrong, animals are worthless compared to humans < 1339790007 824333 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B1319DC.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0/20120601045813] < 1339790012 96165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't agree with the reason, but humans _are_ the only current species that might have a chance of allowing life in general to survive certain astronomical events, including the sun dying < 1339790083 800244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and although intelligence might evolve again if we go extinct, there is no guarantee it will be less destructive to life < 1339790190 884183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i understand there may be only 800 million years left to do so before plant life croaks due to lowered CO2 levels < 1339790237 278962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 800 million years :) < 1339790239 571831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course plants might evolve a better system to survive for longer) < 1339790260 536205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to save the *universe* from going extinct? Impossible, I would think. < 1339790264 108454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah that _is_ admittedly longer than major macroscopic life has already existed :P < 1339790321 777826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well maybe but if the hypothesis that black holes contain new universes is true, then maybe we could find a way to move into there < 1339790381 617115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess surviving their initial big bang would be a bitch too < 1339790483 847247 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest frogs < 1339790493 174891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER. < 1339790503 6596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i think that's jumping to conclusions < 1339790514 898560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Sounds bilious. < 1339790564 120228 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: slick! < 1339790584 983147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs, walks over to the wall and flicks a counter up by one.
< 1339790614 322566 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_elevator http://sprunge.us/ZOGe < 1339790617 287069 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_elevator: 62.4 < 1339790630 141644 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. that was a worthwhile bugfix < 1339790633 322036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yow < 1339790637 762913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you DOING to bf joust < 1339790640 867818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`joustreport < 1339790648 381948 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/report.txt < 1339790650 583157 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what counter? < 1339790670 446664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It's next to the counters tracking the number of people in #esoteric who live in Hexham and Helsinki. < 1339790714 47274 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia TOPIC #esoteric :NOW WITH EDIT WARS | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/JBcN < 1339790752 173559 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah < 1339790766 666334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can assume it is frequently used, then < 1339790775 362760 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I assure you Sgeo had nothing to do with it. < 1339790778 859833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think its value may be higher than the other two. Possibly even combined. < 1339790794 132661 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1339790795 742983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Doesn't Sgeo have everything to do with everything, really? < 1339790799 658296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, on some level. < 1339790801 105202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cosmically. < 1339790812 432900 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends. How many frogs has he stepped on? < 1339790825 284968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: was this flicking sparked by the previous #esoteric conversation? < 1339790860 117806 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many frogs must a man walk down? < 1339790862 635518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does the counter have anything to do with people missing references? if so you might flick it again. < 1339790893 770849 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a Homestuck reference, I don't see other references < 1339790895 876499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No. What did I miss. :( < 1339790913 340706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no i wondered what _i_ missed, since you flicked the counter < 1339790946 816119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, if there was such a counter, then " coppro: i think that's jumping to conclusions" would have confirmed it was in need of flicking. < 1339790971 85457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the incredibly lousy pun counter, right < 1339790978 93525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1339790989 74985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1339790996 948884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A missing-references counter, I mean. Oh, to hell with it. < 1339791010 298060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i assume the frogs are the homestuck reference Sgeo speaketh about < 1339791062 699080 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was counting the number of homestuck readers in the channel. < 1339791067 999554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell did i suddenly get back pain :( < 1339791079 121767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: aha < 1339791098 672833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no risk of flicking it for me, then < 1339791113 830847 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I made a subtle homestuck reference and elliott tried to investigate to see whether it was really a reference or just me being stupid. < 1339791118 848175 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I just read where elliott flicked the counter < 1339791156 413240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm insulted. < 1339791159 627736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume everyone is stupid by default. < 1339791174 990666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone thinks I am testing their stupidity, rest assured I already know the conclusion. < 1339791176 408814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i was about to say that that wasn't a disjoint set < 1339791189 13207 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even see the prior HS reference. Because apparently I'm blind. < 1339791245 562657 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: which? mine? < 1339791247 824205 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the counter was counting homestuck readers? and everyone missed the reference, causing the missing-a-reference counter to be created? < 1339791272 584429 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1339791287 700772 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, although looking again, there were several < 1339791310 824731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: There's no counters. < 1339791331 920536 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noes, the counters are gone! < 1339791332 206986 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I only count the quick exchange between elliott and I < 1339791337 272125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the counter _itself_ was a reference < 1339791343 78828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dun dun dun) < 1339791350 888715 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you check for spoons? < 1339791353 983572 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(okay this is terrible now) < 1339791360 675891 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it ever not terrible < 1339791361 38528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: dammit < 1339791362 362309 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a: no < 1339791370 568003 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi! < 1339791374 666667 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339791413 394673 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh........ I don't remember spoons in connection with HS. Could be a reference to The Room or the fangame < 1339791436 61876 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or me being thick < 1339791443 999166 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because maybe I forgot something in HS < 1339791452 532097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that < 1339791453 182070 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1339791454 370269 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a crime < 1339791455 688461 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1339791721 902453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_elevator http://sprunge.us/NFHC < 1339791724 788502 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_elevator: 63.2 < 1339791809 821583 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia TOPIC #esoteric :NOW WITH EDIT WARS | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/ONOi < 1339791818 483663 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: halp. i can't stop. can't get real work done. < 1339791837 639476 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ... < 1339791843 558848 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: isn't bfjoust real work? < 1339791848 550082 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did he really just... < 1339791858 881625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339791865 335920 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1339791876 7136 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That logo < 1339791888 233926 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ... < 1339791889 987566 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :........ < 1339791894 473272 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was not a homestuck reference < 1339791900 113706 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the thing elliott said < 1339791939 402482 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there's no counters"? < 1339791952 958832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1339792013 458049 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a tabletop counter? < 1339792148 317613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats Sgeo -----###
< 1339792173 510533 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thank you for agreeing with me < 1339792185 152859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1339792195 190269 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we done talking abou counters yet? < 1339792196 749242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oops < 1339792197 413976 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What am I missing here? < 1339792211 519289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems the new - broke off the swatter < 1339792242 201633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: something rectangular, filled with numbers < 1339792271 746147 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what does that have to do with spoons? < 1339792324 729693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYTHING < 1339792372 361495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, knowing about memetic references isn't _really_ obligatory < 1339792377 471076 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: we're not talking about counters any more < 1339792398 866443 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're talking about Sgeo's inability to get references < 1339792401 239547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, i don't think we're in HS anymore < 1339792532 706655 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that if we keep this up, someone's going to get unplugged < 1339792556 333533 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late < 1339792559 675509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott already left because of this < 1339792567 696235 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm dead inside < 1339792568 497665 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1339792586 595787 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the references have you < 1339792607 951155 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what references < 1339792632 549415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: now i smell a lot of references going around that _i_ don't get < 1339792652 394301 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8 < 1339792873 843970 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of my references have been to the same thing as the spoon < 1339792884 786184 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which, as previously established, does not exist) < 1339792933 159491 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Homestuck then. And I can't believe I derped as to the meaning of spoons < 1339792996 70535 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1339792998 212209 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not homestuck < 1339792999 381817 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamit < 1339793007 420140 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant every reference since then < 1339793151 451567 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matrix, because of "There's no" in what elliott said < 1339793173 614253 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1339793178 446700 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :took you long enough < 1339793309 216812 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one literally said "There is no spoon" in the above convo, so < 1339793329 983271 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matrix flitted through my head a few times but I rejected it because of that < 1339793373 591253 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should actually watch at one point < 1339793379 915999 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen the beginning of it < 1339793384 473773 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen the sequels < 1339793401 985528 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the first part of the matrix is the coolest < 1339793405 320049 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best references are subtle < 1339793408 528596 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, references are hyped < 1339793413 759970 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there is no spoon" is obvious < 1339793433 803609 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, I watched the first Matrix once many years ago. I don't remember that bit from it < 1339793439 159547 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never watched any of the other ones < 1339793441 420907 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so *shrug* < 1339793452 13393 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "there is no spoon" is probably its most famous line < 1339793453 491121 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it' < 1339793457 61558 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it's from the oracle scene < 1339793470 143397 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, nah, I'd say the red/blue pill thing is the most famous < 1339793503 50622 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't obvious to me. i also considered and rejected a matrix reference. < 1339793512 901870 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't fit very well. < 1339793517 689459 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, and I don't remember what the oracle scene was. < 1339793587 974301 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a vague memory of someone bending a spoon using his mind, was that the scene in question? < 1339793603 740338 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1339793614 876910 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what else that scene was about though < 1339793642 475802 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're in the waiting room to see the oracle < 1339793651 365767 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it wasn't such a good movie as people seem to think IMO. Sure, it wasn't a bad movie, but IMO it was only a bit above average. < 1339793670 161962 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, who was the oracle, I don't remember that :P < 1339793679 747681 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the black lady < 1339793680 761214 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could like < 1339793684 33548 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :read a plot summary or something < 1339793684 857750 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who appears randomly in places < 1339793695 413077 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, drawing a blank on that < 1339793704 149878 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in the first movie she only appears in that scene < 1339793713 511140 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1339793717 298840 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, and I haven't watched any of the other movies < 1339793723 367739 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor do I think I will < 1339793730 50245 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neo and morpheus go there to ask her if neo is The One, basically < 1339793737 59265 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and she gives a cryptic answer which is basically "no" < 1339793741 593937 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1339793743 743558 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and she makes cookies for them < 1339793748 906724 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1339793763 14458 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: maybe you can elaborate on why you think it's not a good movie < 1339793765 941419 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm curious < 1339793833 397410 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, first: as I said it was a long time ago I watched it. I remember not liking it all that much, but I don't completely remember the specific reasons. I think it was a general subjective "I don't really like this" though. < 1339793833 625317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's a good movie. < 1339793844 721626 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, and iirc the combat was a bit over the top < 1339793867 766526 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1339793883 460896 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't make it a bad movie < 1339793895 431997 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the combat was fun to watch, and was decently original when it came out < 1339793904 24391 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there have been 9000 imitations since then < 1339793907 33252 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, indeed, I said it was above average above. I'm just saying it isn't as good as many people make it out to me < 1339793908 92369 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :be* < 1339793920 379156 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(correction above for the last word on the line before it) < 1339793934 613975 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1339793959 12843 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, it is not a 10/10 it is more like a 6.5/10 < 1339793998 692267 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1339794002 643601 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have many reasons and that's ok < 1339794012 820766 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i certainly agree it's not a 10/10 < 1339794017 590475 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, not strange, it was like 10 years ago I watched it < 1339794017 781765 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard for any film to be < 1339794023 837665 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember all that much < 1339794047 642716 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, anyway, 10 is unobtainable in my scale. It is "perfect" < 1339794065 738620 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like warp 10 in star trek. Infinite something or whatever. < 1339794076 409877 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1339794076 661658 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not I trekkie, don't remember the exact details of that) < 1339794080 598215 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, they breached it in that one episode < 1339794083 394213 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not I trekkie < 1339794086 205903 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ducks for cover
< 1339794093 824776 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I am not* < 1339794102 652325 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not a* < 1339794113 65226 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1339794116 849675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a trook. < 1339794123 817409 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1339794147 753821 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, did they? Okay < 1339794158 767269 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they did that more than once < 1339794162 840692 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1339794213 814355 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I was referring to what was considered one of the worst episodes. Dropped from canon. < 1339794216 684705 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-129-152.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1339794316 878216 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, oh the voyager one? < 1339794336 694158 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1339794652 329224 :pikhq!~pikhq@174.22.151.52 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339794659 55809 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-253-211.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339795054 70148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1339795183 53481 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-126-33.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339796728 357714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i responded to you on the wiki < 1339796756 446779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if there is MCK for .MOD? < 1339796872 965673 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1339797239 595035 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95F4B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339797265 634609 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95F4B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339797307 427320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (Whoops, I think this reveals a bug for the a case in the !/ removal.) --Ørjan (talk) 21:21, 15 June 2012 (UTC) < 1339797309 385753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i revealed you another buge < 1339797323 608519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :waat < 1339797352 940388 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : / -> < 1339797363 851437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: see the talk page < 1339797406 481522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SEE NOTHING < 1339797418 755001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles in complete innocence
< 1339797498 688319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preview is for wussies < 1339797518 629163 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95F4B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1339798438 841778 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1339798469 858918 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339798527 618574 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-228.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339798549 835116 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-253-211.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1339798565 805132 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1339798860 997644 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-90.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339798868 529253 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-228.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1339799168 609681 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1339799394 8874 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1339800025 54423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I find information about the Impulse Tracker format? < 1339800157 54231 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1339800183 667581 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1339800342 727753 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-90.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339800351 837376 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-229-197.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339801368 450710 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-148-156.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339801404 51536 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-126-33.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1339801681 326402 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1339801923 313127 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339802442 464206 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-229-197.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339802450 890873 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-154-148.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339802789 351821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://16-bits.org/it/ seems to be a copy of the document I've used. < 1339802888 936562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the ITTECH.TXT file in the Impulse Tracker zip, also.) < 1339802948 309849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So you can find copies of it by searching with that name.) < 1339803016 620879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The user's manual, IT.TXT in the zip, also has some relevant information, like documentation of the filters. < 1339803081 89502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1339803126 24416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I am trying to make a program which compiles music into Impulse Tracker format < 1339803142 64581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that it can be played using ModPlug and MegaZeux and so on < 1339803205 664101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any experience with writing IT files, just reading them, but it's of course somewhat related. < 1339803218 888010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've also taken a look at the load_it.c file of the MikMod library sources. Just code there, though.) < 1339803356 899862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically I want something like MCK that can compile into .IT or whatever < 1339803381 132828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(MCK is a program to compile .NSF music file) < 1339804043 305225 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1339804084 552584 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1339804220 677747 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you make a program that lets me algorithmically generate .it files? < 1339804244 720814 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a simple music language with powerful features < 1339804247 264501 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like chck < 1339804250 166816 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chuck < 1339804413 833979 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-148-182.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339804561 632387 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-154-148.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds