< 1339977647 442772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since 'resonance' i.e. the table ranges 0..127, so res/128 is about 0..1, and therefore at 20/24ths down the table you should get 10^(-(20/24)*(24/20)) = 10^-1.) < 1339977778 624491 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1339978126 374579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given how messy that code is, I'd probably start with just the rules in http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=Impulse_Tracker#Resonant_filters after setting cutoff == IFC&0x7f and resonance == IFR&0x7f (and enabling the whole deal only if (IFC&0x80)||(IFR&0x80)). Or, well, in your case since you're not implementing it, you'd want to solve what you need IFC and IFR to be; that maybe needs ... < 1339978132 375844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... some thinking w.r.t. what sort of filter those rules implement. Though, honestly, this is such a corner-case feature, maybe you should just support it by letting the user define IFC and IFR as a value 0..127? I think that's what the real Impulse Tracker UI does, too. < 1339978212 395068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a slider that is labeled 0..127, and then you can slide it past the 0 notch to "off", in which case the MSB will be clear. < 1339978229 720354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: I could be all wrong.) < 1339978624 55403 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1339978693 642922 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1339978917 324189 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :facebook.com AAAA 2a03:2880:2110:3f01:face:b00c:: < 1339979347 391141 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, old news < 1339979352 990818 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olds even < 1339979353 498667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should they just be left at zero for default, and then use 0x80-0xFF when a value is entered? < 1339979375 438345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could allow a value 0 to 127 to be entered, and add 128, and then use 0 if no value is entered at all < 1339979403 55640 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, poor google. If only it had been base 17 instead... Then they could have done g00g1e < 1339979435 460901 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339979452 244783 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gꙬgle.com < 1339979468 769658 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that exist= < 1339979474 46099 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1339979482 73046 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it violates the rules about mixing scripts :/ < 1339979482 729843 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1339979486 758191 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, "Firefox kan inte hitta servern på www.xn--ggle-bn7o.com." < 1339979496 135218 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bork bork bork < 1339979499 828195 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, what? < 1339979506 999174 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry about it < 1339979508 981566 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Firefox can not find the server on www.xn--ggle-bn7o.com." < 1339979513 393991 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what it means < 1339979518 440240 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gathered as much < 1339979529 255073 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, NOW YOU KNOW SOME SWEDISH < 1339979542 724260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339979587 613567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That sounds reasonable. < 1339979645 537648 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, you could or 128 instead of adding it. Depending on the CPU that could theoretically be more optimal :P < 1339979661 739959 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no need for any carry < 1339979663 577141 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1339979667 717777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They could still go with '600613', but it's not quite so recognizable. < 1339979668 162350 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"more optimal" < 1339979673 630355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moptimal < 1339979684 132916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"most pessimal" < 1339979684 293247 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, indeed < 1339979696 672151 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :least extremal < 1339979698 192021 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, well probably not in practise < 1339979717 388064 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was not being serious, obviously) < 1339979722 658745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a comment on wording, not content. < 1339979726 207010 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1339979732 379633 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"optimal" is an absolute < 1339979736 78965 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right < 1339979761 778575 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to carry forward and what not both operations probably execute in one cycle anyway < 1339979766 980899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you understand what Vorpal meant? How do you think they should've phrased it? < 1339979776 339635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess in this case "better" would work. < 1339979776 830118 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did understand < 1339979780 727178 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say "better" or "faster" < 1339979783 995248 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not a serious complaint < 1339979793 893719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you also complain about "more unique"? < 1339979797 939363 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1339979813 162750 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, do you complain about people saying PIN number or CD Disc? < 1339979817 3935 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1339979820 827900 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY NOT!? < 1339979821 320644 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i complain about the people who complain about that < 1339979824 85970 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate them < 1339979825 15988 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1339979827 482604 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice one :P < 1339979830 461963 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because acronyms are words < 1339979836 863038 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the etymology of a word is not especially important to its usage < 1339979838 691898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more unique. Munich < 1339979854 901280 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :furthermore in many cases if you drop the "redundant" word, you end up with an awkward sentence < 1339979860 680724 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, shouldn't it be uniquer? < 1339979873 369977 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take joy in ignoring arbitrary rules which only make language worse < 1339979873 530083 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what about deader and deatest? < 1339979877 271946 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :deadest* < 1339979881 45559 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the rule about splitting infinitives < 1339979887 841704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a rule? < 1339979894 118771 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-249-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Can I at least complain about Detective Comics Comics? < 1339979895 512490 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a guideline < 1339979898 814004 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people say you can't split infinitives in english < 1339979904 170967 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"to boldly go" < 1339979904 331187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With PIN, it's sometimes a "personal PIN number". < 1339979909 862448 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in most languages an infinitive is one word < 1339979913 935160 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-249-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: More like a 'stupid'. < 1339979915 458288 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... english is not most languages, who cares < 1339979916 509616 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right that one is just silly < 1339979926 533215 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specifically in latin it's one word, and these people are bitter that they aren't speaking latin) < 1339979927 79357 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I will goddamn split all the infinitives I goddamn want. < 1339979928 285749 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-249-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Splitting infinitives is standard English usage. < 1339979928 485807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to go where no man has gone before < 1339979935 636157 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm with coppro here < 1339979940 978618 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, well yeah. I boldly say what people didn't use to say before I guess < 1339979959 478616 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-249-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even really *old* English usage. < 1339979959 735155 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(okay that was awkward) < 1339979965 602065 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's all find a way to split infinitives while talking about how split infinitives are great < 1339979987 947566 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, :D < 1339979993 313876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once read a book called _Split Infinity_ < 1339979996 444722 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-249-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, it only became common more recently. < 1339979996 943373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it was a pun on that? < 1339979998 629233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes of course I was planning to or 128 rather than add it < 1339979999 54397 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-249-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. Who cares. < 1339980000 943054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think about it at the time. < 1339980011 360535 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, XD < 1339980053 950872 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it could enable some dynamic reordering in the CPU since it could help with dependencies on the MSB in that byte. In theory < 1339980073 312569 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think LLVM ought to have a command which may do addition, OR, XOR, but it is not defined which. < 1339980082 354161 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, how so? < 1339980093 435396 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't very well defined usually < 1339980112 595283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some cases all three operations would lead to the same result < 1339980131 820049 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway iirc the CPU only does dependencies on each byte of a register iirc < 1339980144 88529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some C programs I have written I have wanted to have such an instruction < 1339980187 433243 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I very much doubt xor is good on most CPUs < 1339980194 607675 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :too complex dependency handling < 1339980224 973153 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you are xoring a register with itself, which means clear on x86 and is special cased in dependency analysis on sandy bridge at least) < 1339980237 886966 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which the intel CPU for which I have read the docs in question) < 1339980263 520325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case I will use OR, but I am just saying that the result would be the same regardless, and the program that compiles the LLVM into the native code should decide what to use. < 1339980289 933306 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1339980307 888519 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Food is just pals you eat. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/fePD < 1339980313 361806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not only that; using this ambiguous instruction may also allow certain optimizations to be performed even before compiling to native code. < 1339980338 257376 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as? < 1339980340 673026 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it OK in .IT for multiple sample headings to point to the same audio data? < 1339980366 960113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't actually know if there are any; I just gave an example in case it is possible < 1339980374 524899 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, it is up again? What was the issue? < 1339980382 625008 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1339980386 308433 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HDD space < 1339980392 142799 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1339980410 939423 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly... PHP session files... < 1339980440 299640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then don't use PHP session files < 1339980444 307021 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, shouldn't they be cleared out after a while? < 1339980453 236640 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Hypothetically. < 1339980453 908828 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not just set up a cron job for it < 1339980463 609992 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :set up a cron job that looks at the atime < 1339980471 27418 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1339980472 31946 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, also why the fuck are you using php? < 1339980481 815633 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yawn* < 1339980485 801084 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1339980502 125676 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, really I thought you would have used node.js since you are a js guy < 1339980508 123375 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe perl < 1339980517 91073 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wouldn't believe you as a php guy < 1339980522 207832 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is one of the few languages worse than PHP. < 1339980526 481401 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1339980531 687918 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Node.js is a pain to use for simple web pages. < 1339980535 993295 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1339980537 356738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ for.*// < 1339980544 315984 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1339980547 198434 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair. < 1339980562 182619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Did I link you to that video about node.js? < 1339980563 956719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd like it. < 1339980572 231071 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I haven't seen it. Link me < 1339980598 241664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's the dumbest "anti-node.js" video ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e1zzna-dNw < 1339980618 967641 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the joke something involving hipsters < 1339980652 320338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just watch it, i'll give you a prize if you manage to make it through the whole thing < 1339980654 216320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not < 1339980658 869720 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm not going to then < 1339980690 415276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you telling me you don't thrive on stupid things < 1339980700 615047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :think how much you could complain about it in here < 1339980701 505782 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a limited appetite for stupid things < 1339980712 71704 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise i thrive on cheesy fries but if i eat too many I will get sick < 1339980716 930566 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cheesy chips for you UKians) < 1339980728 357079 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy squeezy cheesy peas < 1339980728 585527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, i did not know what a fry was!!!!!! < 1339980735 792458 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: glad i could help < 1339980736 321548 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The title is already promising... < 1339980741 511318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Wait, really? < 1339980745 566695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1339980747 1084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lied < 1339980748 383803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1339980758 328172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: again, prize if you make it through the whole thing < 1339980767 800725 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not good at that kind of challenge. < 1339980775 813101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Perl and JavaScript and C and Haskell and so on are better than PHP. < 1339980780 705324 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even make it through a whole episode of Everybody Loves Raymond. < 1339980782 514190 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, aiee < 1339980784 832320 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them can be used with webpages as well as other use. < 1339980785 453651 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is horrible < 1339980805 992314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I've yet to eat anything today. < 1339980810 86133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I eat? < 1339980818 299261 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheesy chips? < 1339980820 590242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Did you know JavaScript is sloooooooooooooooooooooooooow? < 1339980829 16648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think how much you could be learning from that video! < 1339980842 552476 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does the person who made the video think you should use instead < 1339980851 661530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: who cares < 1339980867 219330 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I love when people have voices worse than mine. < 1339980871 68999 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes me feel warm and fuzzy. < 1339980881 401387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :other videos from this guy include: Epson Booth Babes Do A Dance < 1339980886 41341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah this makes me want to buy an Epson printer. I mean how many do I have to buy to get a free booth babe? Conferences in Japan are so much sexier than the ones we have here. Girls performing dance routines are pretty common place for all sorts of products ranging from the latest cellphone to Epson printers. Even copy machine paper companies have dancing girls. < 1339980903 852828 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, he actually thinks JS is slow, doesn't he. < 1339980905 595573 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :women can be bought and sold as property < 1339980906 484242 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a dumbshit. < 1339980906 920131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the video is in 3D btw < 1339980907 113726 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true facts < 1339980920 748687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Don't be sexist! < 1339980924 49615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i assume the rest of the video is even better but have not yet got to that part < 1339980925 286063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*People* can be bought and sold as property. < 1339980931 658855 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's your fault you got offended! < 1339980936 238604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1339980936 622509 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLWUT < 1339980938 264964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. :-( < 1339980943 813871 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just a straight talking honest joe, telling it like it is < 1339980947 36268 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"non-blocking" means it doesn't have to write to the hard drive! < 1339980949 293155 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This guy! < 1339980951 422121 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's so retarded! < 1339980954 380417 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who could think that! < 1339980955 921472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i remembered that < 1339980959 170192 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're offended by my sexist/racist comments, it's your fault and you probably chose to be offended for a political reason < 1339980967 943271 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1339980968 719373 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1339980968 899627 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /| < 1339980976 939371 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, that script < 1339980978 453324 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently calculating pi is blocking. < 1339980985 101139 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, this guy seriously has no fucking clue what he's talking about. < 1339980997 654903 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :node.js is cancer and the only cure is a massive dose of radiation < 1339981001 759716 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :preferably enough to kill all life on earth < 1339981027 679095 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want something not stupid to read about node, i enjoyed nelhage's blog post < 1339981029 415546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is cancer. < 1339981030 690765 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.nelhage.com/2012/03/why-node-js-is-cool/ < 1339981038 383089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Relay Cancer. < 1339981038 770548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: his hand movement is great < 1339981047 11453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just kind of waves it about when he realises he has no arguments < 1339981053 192393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/it/them/ < 1339981056 363566 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tldr: it's not about performance, dumbasses, it's about enforcing a standard, composable way to handle events < 1339981063 925406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What he says is true but also depressing. < 1339981064 409973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU EITHER HAVE TO BE READING THE DATA < 1339981067 546852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR YOU HAVE TO BE WRITING THE DATA < 1339981078 129871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS GOING TO BLOCK < 1339981078 657573 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urrrrgh, "real-time" is the only bit that's really an out-and-out lie, and he dismissed it as stupidly as everything else. < 1339981080 651121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way doesn't have to be "single threaded async with callbacks" but that's what node uses < 1339981089 81876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real-time! Well, it's JavaScript! < 1339981106 898336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distributed devices, eh, maybe. Maybe. < 1339981130 471656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I have to agree with an "end-to-end JavaScript experience" not sounding like a good thing, though. < 1339981132 902189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaScript is slow but so is PHP and Ruby and other interpreted programming languages (other than Forth). < 1339981143 136867 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, but this guy is SO, SO BAD. < 1339981162 59117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hard to tell whether that one's real." < 1339981168 930416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :node.js: a CONSPIRACY OF LIES. < 1339981169 609677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor mad < 1339981180 346779 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even particularly a fan of Node. < 1339981184 360927 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just non-stupid. < 1339981198 133041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should start a website whose whole premise is to post really stupid articles to make people like Gregor link to them. < 1339981201 773999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :node requires its OWN HTTP SERVER < 1339981203 764904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And collect ad revenue. < 1339981207 266142 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: DUN DUN DUN < 1339981217 827725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You don't just run, you know, Apache" < 1339981220 434836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of lightweight < 1339981228 449072 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1339981233 935266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to install THEIR thing < 1339981236 137228 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: javascript JITs do much better than popular implementations of PHP and Ruby < 1339981237 698697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1339981255 451424 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a project trying to port node.js style to LuaJIT < 1339981256 665975 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I watched it all. < 1339981257 277795 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a cool idea < 1339981274 129069 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: WHERE'S MY FUCKING PRIZE < 1339981280 302001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: your prize is everything you've learned about node.js < 1339981297 517479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does it solve the part where you have to write in cps < 1339981307 493356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It doesn't follow the RFC model. < 1339981308 363945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Lua have coroutines? < 1339981310 830058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, yes. < 1339981320 987244 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1339981333 902946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does it solve the part where you can't use any existing code that does any kind of non-trivial calculation < 1339981345 316902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean node.js isn't all bad or "hipster" or anything < 1339981351 21839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its concurrency stance is really kinda dumb < 1339981351 396911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Coöperative multitasking is a reasonable tradeoff. < 1339981377 641599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has nothing to do with Continuation CPS-passing style. < 1339981411 246942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It does when everything is callback-structured like node is. < 1339981417 589293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With coroutines, yes, it's less painful. < 1339981418 360892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not *necessarily*. < 1339981425 544823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could have multiple threads handling events. < 1339981429 454331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you still have to be careful about your computations. < 1339981433 929398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly that would be kind of weird. < 1339981439 365470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That kind of defeats the point of node.js? < 1339981444 51226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I can tell this channel is a bunch of h8rs. < 1339981448 378584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, h8r < 1339981450 398540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our aim is most thoroughly hecked. < 1339981454 877821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: remember that guy! < 1339981468 590671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think they know we're still mocking them < 1339981475 751934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not. < 1339981483 380846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not one of us < 1339981493 868225 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339981495 706323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, but either way compiled programming languages generally work faster and may not use as much memory as interpreter < 1339981507 543891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So use a compiled programming language < 1339981518 207132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, C and Haskell < 1339981528 580876 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JITs can produce better code < 1339981679 77238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a compiled programming language < 1339981683 663236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are haskell interpreters < 1339981738 45159 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1339981747 223294 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust return_of_ais523_speedy2 >>>>>>>>(>[-[++[---]]])*21 < 1339981750 19113 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_return_of_ais523_speedy2: 25.3 < 1339981819 875791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Haskell can be interpreted as well as compiled; it is commonly used both ways. C is almost always compiled, although there is C interpreter as well. < 1339981871 208926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want an x86 REPL. < 1339981964 278626 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-249-109.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: DEBUG.COM? < 1339981981 52632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want an x86_64 REPL. < 1339982041 982298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation ->->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*3(+)*16<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*15[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*15[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339982044 571425 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 36.6 < 1339982050 648334 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*3(+)*16<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*15[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*15[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339982053 266743 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 37.1 < 1339982084 999885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*3(+)*16<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50<-->>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*15[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*15[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339982087 694229 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 37.6 < 1339982108 893608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust hi hi < 1339982111 617754 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for shachaf_hi: 8.4 < 1339982112 85994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*3(+)*16<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50<(-)*10>>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*15[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*15[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339982114 667682 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 37.7 < 1339982196 305933 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: Out of speed < 1339982350 16470 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1339982494 723510 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*3(+)*7<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50<(-)*10>>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*15[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*15[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339982497 468001 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 38.7 < 1339982538 967081 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*3(+)*7<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50<(-)*10>>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339982541 622940 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 46.8 < 1339982576 935155 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339983253 453313 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*4(+)*10<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50<(-)*10>>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339983256 160535 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 45.7 < 1339983272 537520 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*4(+)*7<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50<(-)*10>>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339983275 105028 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 45.8 < 1339983300 731518 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*3(+)*10<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50<(-)*10>>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339983303 341763 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 45.6 < 1339983310 910370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*3(+)*4<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50<(-)*10>>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339983313 615102 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 45.6 < 1339983328 187172 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*3(+)*7<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50<(-)*10>>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*24 ]++)*25 < 1339983330 832179 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 46.8 < 1339983336 65519 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1339983348 765807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust hello h+e+l+l+o+..... < 1339983351 483673 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for shachaf_hello: 10.2 < 1339983371 209704 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be exactly seven, exactly 3 away to work...more or less hurts it < 1339983666 151752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: use ais' constant-tweaking program already < 1339983667 374787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1339983829 455470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wow. < 1339983831 59756 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust brachiation >->(-)*5(>)*4(>[(<)*3(+)*7<<(+[<{}])%28>(-)*50<(-)*50<(-)*10>>(>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](+)*50)*3 (>-[(-)*50(>)*7(>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*27](-)*50)*2(>)*7 (>[(-)*5([+{[(+)*25[-]]}[+]])%10[-]][+][-])*22]++)*24 < 1339983833 606872 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_brachiation: 47.3 < 1339983833 766650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That node.js guy thinks people use CGI instead. < 1339983850 593015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: He explicitly says it at the end of the video. < 1339983855 880701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And < 1339983856 248134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1339983856 664032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CGI is the Common Gateway Interface. It is how almost every Web Server on the planet works. Rather than doing something elaborate you just "print" to the http port. There may be a buffer, or not, but essentially it is no different than outputting to the command line. < 1339983857 167738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1339983878 458008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CGI? Are you from 1995? < 1339983878 617759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :businessgeek 1 month ago < 1339983878 617956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, But RFC 3875 is the model for almost all web serving. CGI is not the same as .CGI files it is a standard for the communication between server and client. < 1339983878 618065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlackwaterOpsDotCom in reply to businessgeek 1 month ago < 1339983896 992802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This guy must be some kind of troll. < 1339984047 52642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : A - a +2,+4 ring of slaying (1.0 aum) < 1339984049 440430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1339984050 649597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong channel < 1339984069 897611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ring channel < 1339984789 717450 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust return_of_ais523_definder2 http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot.hg/index.cgi/raw-file/c41abe18a522/ais523_definder2.bfjoust < 1339984793 922014 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_return_of_ais523_definder2: 20.9 < 1339984800 455376 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad day < 1339984849 715055 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust return_of_ais523_definder http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot.hg/index.cgi/raw-file/aa2598db68b0/ais523_definder.bfjoust < 1339984853 719311 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_return_of_ais523_definder: 25.9 < 1339984899 377448 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust return_of_ais523_definder2 < < 1339984901 995771 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_return_of_ais523_definder2: 0.0 < 1339985240 393098 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust return_of_suicide < < 1339985243 137634 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Gregor_return_of_suicide: 0.0 < 1339985551 590664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: so remember interior_crocodile_alligator < 1339985594 469072 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes of course < 1339985613 424751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: how many orders of magnitude has making a viable warrior become since then < 1339985615 776558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the spiritual successor of anti-space_elevator < 1339985628 575512 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably the origination of the reverse offset clear < 1339985632 901601 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1339985636 367352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha really < 1339985641 200218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't really < 1339985642 217325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :intend < 1339985642 615019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1339985688 822731 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: making a viable warrior doesnt' *progress* does it? it's all rock-paper-scissors :P < 1339985702 16976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: of course it progresses in the skill you need < 1339985721 530638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :space_elevator and all of the modern warriors are vastly more complicated to beat than 2009's warriors were < 1339985739 843811 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes i know < 1339985749 59380 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you still haven't studied the hill have you? < 1339985756 519479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not recently < 1339985758 877783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i never did < 1339985763 109136 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia TOPIC #esoteric :Food is just pals you eat. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/YULh < 1339985801 798958 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you never made your chevrolet_movie_theater < 1339985812 18070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's what i'll call this next one < 1339985813 127704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust < 1339985813 356968 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1339985819 553244 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldnt take you long, if you even cared to learn < 1339985829 718956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't learn, i just put the pieces together until it works < 1339985847 231833 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you people and your bfjoust program names < 1339985863 659834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZwhNFOn4ik < 1339985909 942398 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust return_of_elliott_interior_crocodile_alligator (>)*9([-[++[(-)*128([-{([+{[-]}])%64}])%64]]]>)*20(-)*128 < 1339985912 523210 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_return_of_elliott_interior_crocodile_alligator: 24.2 < 1339985915 777372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1339985916 656993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that bad? < 1339985917 173480 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad! < 1339985922 251695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's on the hill again < 1339985926 986885 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm speechless < 1339985928 90354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did it get pushed off < 1339985931 604374 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not at the bottom < 1339985933 239728 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bookmarks video < 1339985956 194722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i mean last time < 1339985957 777777 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: near the end of last february < 1339985966 244517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? no it was on when werecat revived things < 1339985969 437661 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :16th or 17th < 1339985971 829340 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1339985977 797201 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet it had been revived again < 1339985982 493556 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :between then and now < 1339985985 708414 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know exactly < 1339986023 406971 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it does still beat space_elevator at least :P < 1339986055 106007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1339986055 503656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing i can do against a clear that ridiculous < 1339986055 679450 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1339986055 839954 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |\ < 1339986080 581846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: if i tell you my plan will you promise not to counter it/plan how to before i unleash it on the hill < 1339986205 383563 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if i can use the results myself if they are awesome enough :P < 1339986233 262542 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a good plan < 1339986239 304012 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it? < 1339986273 540948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ok the plan is < 1339986280 44789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program that < 1339986283 438300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) is not a fast rush, yet < 1339986286 554881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) uses *no* decoys whatsoever < 1339986300 717410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have several sub-ideas to try on top of this structure < 1339986400 447253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what's a good standard representative few warriors to test things out with egojsout < 1339986418 198489 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia TOPIC #esoteric :Food is just pals you eat. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/aSVX < 1339986455 482474 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what do you mean? < 1339986465 63559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i need to test my warriors against other things with egojsout as i develop < 1339986466 373400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i work < 1339986467 405162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :incrementally < 1339986475 559848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what are a few warriors that are representative of the strategies used on the current hill < 1339986477 397662 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone do anything special for father's day? < 1339986478 872296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i can use to develop my program with < 1339986492 569412 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: insidious2 and atehwa_test_blah for fast rush < 1339986504 858943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my program will inevitably lose to fast rushes < 1339986519 319098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: or did you misread my (a) < 1339986520 109459 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffspg, ffldg, and lead_acetate_philip < 1339986532 584488 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it doesnt have to! if it defends < 1339986532 894852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i meant like a list of 3 programs :P < 1339986540 341318 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :omega_turtle < 1339986545 328536 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :skyscraper < 1339986548 38446 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :waterfall3 < 1339986550 780717 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shudderlock < 1339986553 703016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just go spelevator, whichever one werecat's top is < 1339986555 144793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and counterpoke < 1339986557 376320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one other, probably ais523's top < 1339986566 669196 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can do well agaisnt those < 1339986568 533978 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are set < 1339986572 183602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it will not be a conventional defence program < 1339986613 282080 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i gave you 8 names out of 47. you really do need to understand those in order to do well. < 1339986632 812213 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(10 if you count the fast rushes you say you care naught about) < 1339986689 674817 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow how did it get so late < 1339986792 521520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you don't understand < 1339986795 529413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote ica understanding no programs < 1339986848 204372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: (>)*12 beats spelevator on one tape length < 1339986848 880119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats < 1339986865 484966 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not surprising < 1339986870 89046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1339986871 690745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it runs off the tape < 1339986872 128934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1339986891 493965 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that extra step saves it hundreds of cycles against other programs < 1339986897 371879 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes up for the few times it suicides < 1339986932 410256 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i mentioned it in the writeup < 1339986984 623305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"After it returns to build this extra decoy, it assumes it must be on a longer tape and rushes ahead to two spaces ahead of where it knows it is safe to go. This causes it to suicide against some opponents on certain tape lengths, but successfully compensates for the fact that it builds far fewer decoys in this situation by ignoring some of the opponent's decoys." < 1339987039 257637 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also you prove my point. ica never did well. :P < 1339987067 845690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339987073 986028 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as john's programs never did well...he actively avoids looking at other programs on the hill < 1339987115 254052 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he should update that retro programming article eh < 1339987130 908568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: uh it was top 5 for a while iirc < 1339987170 976934 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i dont recall that. in any case, it doesnt suck as much as everything else you've submitted, so that's cool < 1339987176 899079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gee thanks < 1339987183 83571 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1339987332 186177 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: make me eat my words. write a champion. < 1339987342 157707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'l lnever write a champion < 1339987401 240948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://spikedmath.com/498.html < 1339987455 348336 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1339987460 868117 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339987855 163918 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently ica does not beat counterpoke. counterpoke is a beast. < 1339987858 579169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: how many tape lengths do you think is reasonable to sacrifice < 1339987876 716247 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: as many as increases your score < 1339987888 301251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: how many would you design around < 1339987908 339856 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure in what sense you mean to sacrifice them < 1339987920 297646 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :by potentially suiciding? < 1339987966 363152 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :skipping more than one or two cells ahead tends to cause lowering of score, but of course, the actual optimal value depends on the rest of the program < 1339987973 602603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: by definitely suiciding < 1339987993 198909 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: like, using a rule-of-11 at the beginning or somet? < 1339988050 565920 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-252-129.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339988052 913357 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1339988053 136455 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1339988053 296488 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1339988065 222040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: right < 1339988102 949771 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it doesnt gain you much, but if you expect to lose short tapes anyway, it also doesnt hurt < 1339988103 109700 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1339988124 237042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :helps more w/o yr dumb score changes < 1339988125 443682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah ais523 < 1339988130 132907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :argue my side in this argument please < 1339988131 379799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the wiki < 1339988162 868744 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339988218 636397 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-249-109.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1339988297 56913 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how do you know it helps more w/o score changes < 1339988334 127527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the lengths you sacrifice don't count against you < 1339988339 70082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you win the rest < 1339988355 194908 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure they do < 1339988365 165280 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just perhaps by not as much (depending on opponent) < 1339988370 942881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :howso < 1339988399 882460 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the current system, the number of lengths you win is factored into your points, which is a part of the score < 1339988437 663752 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the current system, losing on a tape length hurts you equally no matter how good your opponent < 1339988455 32262 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the new system it would hurt you more if you lost a tape length to a bad opponent < 1339988474 104588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the number of lengths you win is factored into your points" wait, it is? < 1339988479 925565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1339988484 274165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current system is broken too then < 1339988516 808191 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone else has always thought it worked p well < 1339988625 432442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"everyone" includes me, so no < 1339988647 778331 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered the fact that in a fixed-point winner-take-all system, all someone has to do get the highest possible score (thereby leaving everyone else with a score of 0.0) is to barely beat every other program? < 1339988649 905473 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339988662 235381 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a whole lot easier than beating every other program on every length and polarity < 1339988689 338454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i very much doubt anyone can write a program which beats every other one with current skills < 1339988695 676890 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-63.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339988698 384466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to try < 1339988706 954174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do it's a momentous event and the scores will be messed whatever happens < 1339988880 353713 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-252-129.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1339988913 553128 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes it's difficult, but it's been done before and i think it could happen again < 1339988935 810133 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and if it does, no program except the champion gets ranked. it's a degenerate case. < 1339988962 806737 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if the hill had 100 programs on it, i would agree with you that it was essentially impossible) < 1339989108 907778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that program has essentially obliterated the competitoin < 1339989113 333243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game is broken < 1339989117 639557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all you need to do to fix it is beat it < 1339989152 632544 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you are okay with the game being broken just because one program is good? < 1339989170 491229 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kinda like the idea that even in that situation, we'd still have meaningful rankings < 1339989174 812103 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but okay < 1339989179 911400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if one program beats every other program then yes the game is in dire trouble < 1339989257 106609 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really. < 1339989280 139875 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if "beats" is defined as "wins more than loses against" < 1339989294 665773 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it is almost certainly losing on *some* lengths and polarities < 1339991743 548806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If I played a roguelike would you watch? < 1339991768 336568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what roguelike would it be < 1339991775 559688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. < 1339991815 286085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about: rogue < 1339991819 449836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rogue is boring < 1339991820 840718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've played it < 1339991826 316658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about: nethack < 1339991830 592677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also boring < 1339991840 586796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about: robotfindskitten < 1339991881 489680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a single-player zen experience < 1339991882 568147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :play Light < 1339991885 256854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd watch that < 1339991914 328346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about crawl heavy :'( < 1339991920 266550 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :last year someone mentioned a hill for short programs, and i think that's actually a good idea. easy to implement too: just make an identical hill to egojoust, but change the command for it so it doesn't accept URLs anymore. < 1339991925 4969 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"6321 data requests < 1339991925 273628 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :93% of data requests fully or partially complied with < 1339991926 871238 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1339991935 151594 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We received a request from the Passport Canada office to remove a YouTube video of a Canadian citizen urinating on his passport and flushing it down the toilet. We did not comply with this request." < 1339991940 169671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not easy to implement < 1339991945 202204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to add a special-case to egobot's inner code < 1339992025 27635 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't think this < 1339992040 363279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i have read egobot's code < 1339992041 466164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think this < 1339992044 297853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the urls work for every command < 1339992045 489200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just one < 1339992050 124293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what evidence do you have for your position < 1339992055 66052 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am looking at the code < 1339992073 49393 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1339992081 141095 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you're right, it's still easy to implement < 1339992094 547717 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just add a line to the command that truncates the file :P < 1339992100 304773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think a hill for short programs is good < 1339992105 531417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most long programs just want better macro facilities < 1339992108 483254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are "short" at heart < 1339992115 916365 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1339992133 987195 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think it would be fun to see what people could do with compression < 1339992142 956618 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever trickier < 1339992146 599617 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*trickery < 1339992208 188339 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i do still support the idea of adding c-style macros to bfjoust syntax) < 1339992214 828069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't, it's ugly :( < 1339992348 727771 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugly? < 1339992367 53808 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make them unugly by changing the syntax < 1339992420 219553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what about: ADOM < 1339992435 604103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact! "adom" is the Hebrew word for "red". < 1339992577 655167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ADOM is awful. But I'll watch it. < 1339992581 894256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an ADOM server. < 1339992596 346313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is? < 1339992607 406773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1339992611 902411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme find it < 1339992618 435055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Would you watch Zork Zero? < 1339992626 263679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I'd watch ADOM. < 1339992643 157544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://ancardia.wikia.com/wiki/Jaakkos'_server < 1339992649 547000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you watch Zork: Grand Inquisitor? < 1339992662 422731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1339992682 165538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the server is down. < 1339992686 542188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's against my principles to play ADOM anyway. < 1339992749 636831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's possible under Windows to monitor and, I believe, intercept calls to external libraries, much like under Linux. However, ADOM is a DOS program, so that doesn't help any. (There is a Windows port of ADOM, but it's only in beta.) DOS doesn't have external libraries - all of the functions that ADOM Sage needs to monitor and intercept are inside the code, so getting at them would require disassembling ADOM. (This is an oversimplification - see < 1339992749 796687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the section on DOS for details.) < 1339992749 956709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So instead ADOM Sage takes the Linux version of ADOM and makes it run under Windows. Windows allows a program to set up its address space to match that of a Linux program, and in most other respects (function calling conventions, register usage, structure padding, instruction set, etc.) Windows and Linux are identical, so this isn't too difficult to do. Additionally, Linux programs (like Windows programs) contain detailed information about functi < 1339992752 631446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ons that they expect the operating system to provide, so ADOM Sage can redirect those function requests to Windows or to its own internal routines. < 1339992755 677646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows programs do differ from Linux programs in how they allocate stack space. So ADOM Sage simply takes allocates all available stack space before doing anything else. A bit wasteful on memory, but it's simple and effective." < 1339992763 466437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Running a Linux program under Windows consists of interpreting the ELF file format used by Linux programs, loading the program into the Windows program's address space, and then transferring control to the Linux program, redirecting any requests for Linux library functions to equivalent Windows functions. ADOM uses two libraries - libc and ncurses. Most of libc's functions are available in Microsoft's C runtime library. Functions from ncurses ar < 1339992764 464390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e handled by PDCurses; I had to hack PDCurses to make it more compatible with ncurses. (For these purposes it's not enough to be compatible at the source level - macros, constants, and structure layouts all have to match so that code is compatible at the binary level.)" < 1339992768 231463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You were so preempted. < 1339992770 329814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: By a madperson. < 1339992836 273494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: telnet light.bitprayer.com < 1339992899 262662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hah. < 1339992923 996346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I told you, man, principles. < 1339992967 730315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then the answer is no, i won't watch you play a roguelike < 1339992969 809508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next question < 1339992976 423553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What about NetHack? < 1339992981 309507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! What about SLASH'EM? < 1339992987 448452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no and no < 1339992997 324076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, I'd be so bad at SLASH'EM. < 1339993001 1566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't played it in years. < 1339993005 260387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was never very good. < 1339993006 529266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a stupid game < 1339993021 689550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ESOTERIC IS A STUPID GAME < 1339993093 597015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did you have any intention of actually playing any of these when you pinged me < 1339993106 411062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1339993110 371199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no then < 1339993110 594235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1339993112 185081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd play SLASH'EM or NetHack. < 1339993116 242775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or robotfindskitten. < 1339993120 965526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ADOM. < 1339993234 988926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two of those games are boring and one is boring to watch < 1339993363 210505 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1339993376 233743 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-238.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339993383 962047 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-255-63.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1339993464 35201 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the only winning move is not to play < 1339993472 461657 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we've already established that i'm a Loser < 1339993480 716622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a Loser? < 1339993500 125131 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from the blog article series i keep talking about < 1339993506 388122 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/ < 1339993512 549565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you be a 𝕃oser instead? < 1339993514 109698 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm intoxicated by the idea that this amusing, somewhat farcical mainstream sitcom is actually a coded guide to sociopathic realpolitik at the highest levels < 1339993519 176720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's a non-BMP character right there. < 1339993523 754912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1D543 < 1339993524 783073 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that came through as a replacement character < 1339993531 129732 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :� < 1339993550 60737 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh translates any character which is unknown by the locale into the replacement character < 1339993564 64901 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause it needs to know the width of each character < 1339993587 378666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, Unicode doesn't have MATHEMATICAL SCRIPT CAPITAL L? < 1339993598 34233 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1339993610 813794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is weird. < 1339993614 865652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1D4A6 MATHEMATICAL SCRIPT CAPITAL K [𝒦] < 1339993615 25730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1D4A9 MATHEMATICAL SCRIPT CAPITAL N [𝒩] < 1339993623 133410 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is SCRIPT CAPITAL L < 1339993631 847184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My terminal also renders K and N but not 1D4A7 < 1339993632 513683 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/script.html < 1339993644 294554 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i think some of them were included in the BMP < 1339993644 454355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ℒoser" < 1339993646 514601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not the same. < 1339993649 827519 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the rest are "MATHEMATICAL" < 1339993651 669294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, but I can't find this one. < 1339993653 391964 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw that one < 1339993660 604686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the situation with the DOUBLE-STRUCK letters. < 1339993673 406339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe it's the same thing here. < 1339993717 210901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :02117 SOUND RECORDING COPYRIGHT [℗] < 1339993742 889149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/%E2%84%92 < 1339994043 757918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :02247 NEITHER APPROXIMATELY NOR ACTUALLY EQUAL TO [≇] < 1339994056 541377 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\scumbagmathematician{invents a way to write bold letters on blackboard}{uses it in print to mean something different from bold} < 1339994061 119085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'd better start using that for things taht are *really* different. < 1339994062 495643 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: -_- < 1339994070 42673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :02246 APPROXIMATELY BUT NOT ACTUALLY EQUAL TO [≆] < 1339994073 485986 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about "actually but not approximately equal to" < 1339994088 828302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't like blackboard bold < 1339994097 123534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott opinions < 1339994132 890920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1B48F BASICALLY THE SAME THING AS FOR ANYTHING YOU CARE ABOUT [𛒏] < 1339994155 223308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : im opine < 1339994156 915360 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :▁▂▃▄▅▆▇█ UNICODE █▇▆▅▄▃▂▁ < 1339994175 211186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unique ode < 1339994188 6351 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :░░░░▒▒▒▒▓▓▓▓████ < 1339994386 225459 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1A037 ANYONE REALLY BEEN FAR EVEN AS DECIDED TO USE EVEN GO WANT TO DO LOOK MORE LIKE [�] < 1339994420 990725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i admit i giggled < 1339994516 500094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0FBF9 ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM [ﯹ] < 1339994529 287574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I win on length! < 1339994537 343581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that' sreal < 1339994539 590079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that's real < 1339994555 854643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite is still GLAGOLITIC CAPITAL LETTER SPIDERY HA < 1339994559 614325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ⱒ < 1339994560 140531 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://blognomic.com/archive/a_new_era1/ < 1339994569 878368 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: uighur please < 1339994585 950182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: nice < 1339994593 361034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: upset that you had to justify a core rules scam < 1339994617 679602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All these great non-BMP codepoints I can't use in here. :-( < 1339994648 264115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why can't you us ethem < 1339994660 866148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Because my IRCthing ir borken!< < 1339994745 178442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :00753 ARABIC LETTER BEH WITH THREE DOTS POINTING UPWARDS BELOW AND TWO DOTS ABOVE [ݓ] < 1339994748 183251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :00753 ARABIC LETTER BEH WITH THREE DOTS POINTING UPWARDS BELOW AND TWO DOTS ABOVE [ݓ] < 1339994762 479150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oopse" < 1339994794 618893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :01F9E GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ETA WITH PSILI AND PERISPOMENI AND PROSGEGRAMMENI [ᾞ] < 1339994819 219851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F502 CLOCKWISE RIGHTWARDS AND LEFTWARDS OPEN CIRCLE ARROWS WITH CIRCLED ONE OVERLAY does get pretty long too. < 1339994831 547129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1339994834 885429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's non-BMP. < 1339994844 733549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you call things that aren't in the BMP? < 1339994846 38662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMP? < 1339994860 615608 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PNG? < 1339994863 835410 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1339994875 786819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0FE3D PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT DOUBLE ANGLE BRACKET [︽] < 1339994901 487126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1D1CE MUSICAL SYMBOL TEMPUS IMPERFECTUM CUM PROLATIONE IMPERFECTA DIMINUTION-3. < 1339994930 200905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds sci-fi. < 1339994971 939077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F402 OX [] < 1339994993 227188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that real < 1339995001 827313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "astral" < 1339995003 556757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes. < 1339995036 752281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :02A92 GREATER-THAN ABOVE LESS-THAN ABOVE DOUBLE-LINE EQUAL [⪒] < 1339995051 623287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes; the two preceding characters are DIMINUTION-1 and DIMINUTION-2. < 1339995088 781742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i approve < 1339995097 479750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I get an up-to-date Unicode list of symbols file thing? < 1339995138 39973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you can buy Unicode 6.1 as a book. < 1339995141 956118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This 692-page volume may be purchased from Lulu.com for $15.96, plus shipping. < 1339995156 653738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Where can I get an up-to-date Unicode list of symbols file thing? < 1339995156 822711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would expect ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt to be up to date, since it doesn't mention a version. < 1339995159 676378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a textfile somewhere on - yeah < 1339995187 195806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Ew, what a terrible format. < 1339995191 910497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lacks the sample letters, though. < 1339995193 209574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have to write a few lines of code to parse it. < 1339995199 187992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a fewlines" < 1339995200 315084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*few lines < 1339995201 516322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one line of perl < 1339995234 649157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALF A LINE OF PROLOG < 1339995249 388438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code should be measured in cache lines instead of code lines. < 1339995263 99971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is 1000 Lines of Cache. < 1339995278 490765 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1339995291 885514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Can you explain the format please? < 1339995312 812522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1339995316 182172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe fizzie can < 1339995327 696225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Can you explain the format please? < 1339995362 292085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :First and second columns are code point and the name, for the most part. < 1339995373 421467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for the most part" < 1339995377 766942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Columns are separated by ;. Other columns are boring. < 1339995404 733650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, control characters have in there and name in column 11 or something. < 1339995415 856104 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1339995743 172858 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1339995798 476534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1339996176 275489 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1339996255 336119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you prefer to specify the altitude by sea level or relative to center of the Earth? < 1339996688 863256 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339997168 533776 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-236-213.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1339997442 96309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I like how you got a CfJ to invalidate your scam immediately afterwards. < 1339997447 543250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Title "Because I dislike core rules scams". < 1339997454 998575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlogNomic: the worst nomic. < 1339997476 759328 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah but it didn't get a single FOR vote < 1339997476 965304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Its there so that if enough people would rather not have you win, we have that option. There is no fair play rule against this either. Please don’t be a hypocrite and call this “petty” while exposing core rules scams. < 1339997477 125652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1339997487 846680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't clucky whining a lot about the agoran scam too < 1339997490 197988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("scam") < 1339997509 528683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Personally, I think core rules are still just rules, so scams are still valid." < 1339997513 127093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey maybe there is hope forBN < 1339997514 319311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for BN < 1339997574 139616 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1339997576 831635 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was < 1339997593 582954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: right < 1339997597 722134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: scam clucky out of the game < 1339998281 247286 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-148-210.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339998413 217217 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.115.178.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339998630 366298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i admire your use of hash consing on the lazy evaluation talk page < 1339998711 159821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :waht < 1339998746 832475 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_consing < 1339998758 227804 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Lazy_evaluation < 1339998800 41531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know whatoihe hasoih cosicnsoign is < 1339998803 345607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okew oiy i ghetio it noaiwe < 1339998828 262717 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing you know how to type < 1339998859 241219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: myabe migrate sil talk here < 1339998868 171772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realised it was in #crawligithio oops < 1339998911 426930 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1339998914 496940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1339998969 897432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ops < 1339998982 534722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY OERJAN AIS523 FIZZIE < 1339998986 68586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI < 1339999111 344784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Millions of ops per second can be handled by today's computational machines. < 1339999158 578583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can "handle" several ops per second. < 1339999171 150373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: /mode #esoteric +o elliott < 1339999751 680943 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com PART #esoteric :"..." < 1340000247 533622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Remember AOL keywords? < 1340000288 695591 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1340000342 117772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those were the days. :-( < 1340000374 458214 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1340000404 570438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it allowed in .IT file for multiple sample headings to point to the same address of the audio data? < 1340000545 435675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of the above were part-time activities he assumed in conjunction with his primary position as Director of the Computer Networks Division ("Division 7") of the Information Sciences Institute at the University of Southern California.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16] < 1340002181 655352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I doubt that's actually been specified anywhere, but I'd *guess* it's likely to work in most (if not all) players. < 1340002624 941575 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1340002635 346235 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was connected all night < 1340002636 695313 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1340002637 241869 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1340003062 817799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Which players would it not work with? < 1340003082 516062 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know, I haven't tested. It might easily work with all. < 1340003472 565853 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1340004137 996209 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally got my gf addicted to xkcd < 1340004145 828193 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no! < 1340004173 901488 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least it's not Ctrl-Alt-Delete < 1340004224 470614 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you know if any existing files use that? < 1340004271 286783 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: new xkcd or old xkcd? < 1340004300 528797 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, she's pressing random and linking me to the ones she likes < 1340004380 95371 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: get her on smbc instead < 1340004422 865812 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1340004518 793719 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"show her goatkcd" < 1340004566 404246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1340004577 809686 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly smbc has a lot of crap strips too < 1340004578 920368 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :goattkcd does tend to be about x times funnier < 1340004581 734503 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because it updates every day < 1340004590 361663 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the bad ones don't annoy me as much < 1340004594 357450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :smbc's tone is a lot less annoying < 1340004599 66823 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: signal to oise ratio is fairly high < 1340004609 896595 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people generally aren't like "zomg smbc embodies everything about being a nerd" < 1340004626 800790 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus zach weiner is accessible and interesting as an online persona < 1340004631 161339 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty honest to what it claims to be / what people think it is < 1340004638 11715 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :an entertainer without pretention or angst < 1340004656 828442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, could this multiple pointing to same address be used to make just intonation if the C5Speed is adjusted? < 1340004728 454685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds hard < 1340004753 18952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Other uses would be to change loops, or to start a sample at a different position than normal, or different vibrato) < 1340004775 95596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you like XKCD before it was mainstream? < 1340004777 12446 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: youd have to add a parameter for what key itistuned in then < 1340004818 20717 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, i liked it starting when it became mainstream and for a while after that < 1340004839 551887 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, I found out about it when seemingly all my other friends did < 1340004849 471129 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it 'went viral' as they say < 1340004859 210538 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe my friends are not "mainstream" < 1340004875 796691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Main St. Ream < 1340004890 51858 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say the era of "every slide deck about a software project must have one xkcd strip in it" was a bit later < 1340004916 987654 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also a period when it seemed like every blog -- regardless of their normal content -- would repost xkcd strips as they came out < 1340004966 391438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: How do you mean? < 1340004994 711118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I think I know what you meant < 1340005083 588423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course there would be a way to input what key it is tuned in if you want to make just intonation; but that does not need to be saved tothe .IT file < 1340005395 686977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think Impulse Tracker itself writes that kind of files, at least, but I'm not sure. < 1340005438 593563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Perhaps Impulse Tracker doesn't, but does any other program do so, or only my own program ITMCK? < 1340005446 327302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how do you add a user to a group i forgot help < 1340005591 114525 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :usermod -a -G < 1340005595 617125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx Gregor < 1340005596 974609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're fizzie now < 1340005601 238585 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't forget the -a or you'll regret it. < 1340005606 991649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would it do < 1340005623 244535 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overwrite the users groups with ONLY the one listed (i.e., remove them from all other groups) < 1340005639 247422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1340005642 694042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux design < 1340005672 726455 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that's inherited from something, probably Solaris. < 1340005840 899129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: after i do that how do i get a new termina lwith that group active < 1340005864 598363 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Painfully. If you just need one terminal, I usually just let su do it for me, i.e. su - < 1340005868 684095 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise log out and back in. < 1340005889 601520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are standard terminals not login terminals < 1340005890 744579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc? < 1340005913 911899 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being a login terminal is not sufficient, that couldn't magically give it groups it didn't inherit. < 1340005938 559052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need to su, you can just 'newgrp'. < 1340005945 306356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you know groups are a property of a process, not of a user? < 1340005946 547830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:46 "My friend's brother's ex-wife's uncle's old schoolmate inherited some < 1340005946 707852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : money, bought shares of Decos Bananas Co. and became a millionaire. I < 1340005947 548797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : think of it as an example of how anyone can become rich and happy if he < 1340005949 549248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : tries hard enough." < 1340005963 907022 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, there's a command I didn't know exists. < 1340005979 539665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not especially any better. < 1340005999 929317 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the groups come from /bin/login < 1340006004 283531 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is setuid and so can confer them < 1340006024 301218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really meant for changing the actual group ID, but ISTR it can be used to refresh the supplementary groups too. < 1340006070 572387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also tries to add the group to the user groupset" that sort of thing. < 1340007136 541402 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why do you need "a+b" to concatenate strings? You can always just "new StringBuffer().add(a).add(b).toString()", which is just as easy to write." < 1340007154 558876 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I hope it's a troll :) < 1340007173 325893 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if you press + in a Java IDE that's what you get, right? < 1340007194 680952 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like if you press a+b in a C compiler, you get "add %rax, %rdx" < 1340007201 969082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java IDEs are pretty good. < 1340007219 504613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Java is a secret plan to improve the state of tools for working with code. < 1340007224 44702 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so < 1340007225 413306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's just unworkable any other way. < 1340007236 895226 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see http://www.eclipse.org/xtend/ ? < 1340007240 520076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out about "dependency injection" recently. < 1340007248 800468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, what it apparently actually means. < 1340007254 171685 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of these "better Java than Java" projects < 1340007274 258838 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting because it comes from the Eclipse people and so good tool support is a top priority < 1340007333 398693 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fits into some Eclipse magic sauce where you can define your own DSL or syntactic extensions to Java and get not only a compiler to JVM but full Eclipse support basically for free < 1340007401 331315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Howcome in Haskell, when there is a value that would be discarded, () is used instead of ⊥? < 1340007413 210103 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easier to type :) < 1340007439 334707 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you see both < 1340007440 102868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Should be ⊤ < 1340007441 236197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i didnt say that < 1340007442 242318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1340007445 132886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop assuming im idiots you fuckers < 1340007452 397076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i say something silly i'm quoting someone else :( < 1340007466 872996 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Obviously, and I'm just responding with something equally silly. < 1340007467 246645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the elliott defes < 1340007474 91928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$/nse"/ < 1340007480 703622 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: don't forget the quotes when you quote < 1340007489 435335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: STOP ASSUMING GREGOR IS IDIOTS < 1340007489 978227 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i thought this was like "should forever :: M a -> M b or forever :: M a -> M ()" < 1340007504 879830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :M a -> M Void < 1340007507 534512 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1340007514 452692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no < 1340007518 973690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is very important the quotes are not present < 1340007523 992615 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should use Void because then i can use edwardk's 'void' package to inject insidious memory corruption bugs into your program < 1340007579 515079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of insidiosity, when's that contest happening? < 1340007586 74306 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time t < 1340007589 612532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott would like to enter. < 1340007633 311382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you know that foo.chr doesn't work in Ruby for foo > 255? < 1340007643 336412 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1340007644 854894 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1340007647 191980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell you do something like [foo].pack('U'), where 'U' means UTF-8. < 1340007662 560840 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1340007663 735285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[256].pack('U')[0].ord == 256 < 1340007666 896430 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very perl-ish solution < 1340007668 522128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what are the memory corruption bugs < 1340007698 35962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/void/0.5.6/doc/html/src/Data-Void.html < 1340007698 864747 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the GHC optimized implementation of 'vacuous' is unsound if you use type families < 1340007719 839650 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it assumes that type constructors are parametric < 1340007722 695807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh, nice < 1340007725 864329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why don't you tell edwardk < 1340007727 618802 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1340007729 329254 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't care < 1340007732 989167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1340007742 261529 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1340007743 795855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll bug him about it more next time i see him < 1340007746 37429 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1340007758 39123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the clarifi compiler has only parametric type constructors or something < 1340007762 297736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so how do you do the bug < 1340007772 330027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw what the fuck is clarifi doing having their own fp language and compiler < 1340007775 983910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You do the bug by doing /msg edwardk VOID IS BROKEN < 1340007796 500060 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"void is broken" < 1340007799 50545 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's very deep. < 1340007800 255058 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it assumes you can unsafely coerce a «f Void» to a «f a» because the container must be empty, so to speak < 1340007815 239430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: right < 1340007817 71639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you exploit it < 1340007818 382704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1340007820 95420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type family Foo a < 1340007823 887845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type family Foo Void = () < 1340007825 203979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you just declare a type family that's different on Void. < 1340007827 480110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type family Foo Int = Int < 1340007830 241903 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1340007834 319670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coerce Foo Void to Foo Int < 1340007834 727153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bam < 1340007840 837407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i have this suspicion that type families are completely broken < 1340007843 199594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this strengthens it < 1340007863 576178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: actually Foo does not quite work < 1340007865 143694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you need fmap < 1340007868 823848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can a type family be Functor < 1340007871 329122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1340007877 780384 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did write an exploit for this < 1340007888 577919 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/52660 < 1340007889 567745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well how does it work since you can't do Functor < 1340007900 870522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Functor Foo < 1340007901 866108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft < 1340007912 537357 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data family, not type family < 1340007919 560708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it should do fmap `seq` unsafeCoerce < 1340007923 884804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why isn't there a newtype family. :-( < 1340007934 113504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: really your code is broken because it disobeys functor laws < 1340007939 261478 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: *rolls eyes* < 1340007947 330072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, memory corruption is a valid response to that, according to the report, iirc < 1340007950 171079 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1340007951 17089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not an ideal one < 1340007958 394007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the report explicitly allows compilers to assume e.g. the monad laws < 1340007959 63448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1340007960 560361 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1340007963 360570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read it and was shocked < 1340007964 951482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's true < 1340007966 527366 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i request chapter and verse < 1340007975 303578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk grep it < 1340007980 283647 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can do newtype instances of data families < 1340007983 130443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why isn't there a one-page version of the report? < 1340007984 102786 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you < 1340007990 534716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You can? < 1340007995 934122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tried it once and it didn't work. < 1340008007 131730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I might be wrong. < 1340008032 479746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1340008032 857342 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonMarlow says: This is the largest program (in terms of memory requirements) I've ever seen anyone run using GHC. In fact there was no machine in our building capable of running it, I had to < 1340008033 37663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire up the largest Amazon EC2 instance available (68GB) to debug it - this bug cost me $26. < 1340008042 333467 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1340008076 374725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good quote < 1340008090 691957 :Deewiant_!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(source: http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2010-June/079332.html ) < 1340008183 828729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Remember that one time you called Simon Marlow dumb? < 1340008212 906958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarf fortress, everybody: http://ompldr.org/vZWRyNw < 1340008221 445215 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it stupid to run a program that no computer in the building can run? < 1340008244 679575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1340008248 924684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT APPARENTLY ELLIOTT THINKS SO < 1340008249 568691 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1340008269 886254 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what < 1340008275 258217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes < 1340008280 810199 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1340008282 742919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this is the interface for customising your surname in adventurer mode < 1340008319 236850 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1340008505 502779 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mum walks into my room "heres a fork for ya. puts it on my plate." "uh thanks" "i used it to cut the sausage rolls [which she was eating separately]" < 1340008535 896086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe itidus21 is a surrealist humor bot. < 1340008539 295774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would explain a lot. < 1340008562 762252 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Food is just pals you eat. Here's a fork for ya. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/aSVX < 1340008628 36460 :ion!ion@heh.fi TOPIC #esoteric :Food is just pals you eat. Here's a spork for ya. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | This is what the bfjoust hill will look like under the new scoring system: http://sprunge.us/aSVX < 1340008635 494971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/0t8hu.jpg < 1340008652 394789 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :-D < 1340008697 217121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://www.reddit.com/user/JimKB/submitted/?sort=top < 1340008701 791334 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's pretty freaking arbitrary." < 1340008743 273323 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: very nice illustrations in that pic < 1340008795 418066 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the fact that theres a website signature shows its a professional < 1340008856 944050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's the punchline < 1340008858 47199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Gregor < 1340008876 366292 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes a bow. < 1340008884 255051 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shoots elliott in the leg. < 1340008890 391493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im ded < 1340008917 792344 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1340009069 40042 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad was into archery stuff. in his mind he was basically Link.. but in reality he was a depressed office clerk with a dysfunctional family! :-D < 1340009121 439737 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340009236 241888 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott used to be a programmer but he took an arrow in the knee. < 1340009267 880274 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: shame < 1340009306 16145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a well-known fact you can't program without good knees. < 1340009315 404182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: kick ion < 1340009327 793739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, kick me! < 1340009336 474950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1340009345 704294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Seriously. Kick me. < 1340009367 816640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Did elliott really use to be a programmer? < 1340009369 124741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it always like this? Can't you people, I don't know, join #esoteric-kick and then kick yourself? < 1340009538 843524 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting ahead in the real world of programming DOES involve an awful lot of time on your knees. < 1340009586 521680 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : :D < 1340009642 31807 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: believe it or not even i used to actually edit, compile and execute software using programming languages once upon a time. < 1340009683 738343 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to be a programmer < 1340009689 119714 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still am, but i used to, too < 1340009709 407467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programmers are really on another level compared to amateur grammers. < 1340009710 847771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mitch hedberg quote, you could get like 500 reddit karma for that! < 1340009739 230884 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take my reddit karma in the form of cash money < 1340009745 367541 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the exchange rate < 1340009753 774448 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a congrammer. < 1340009774 735363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/kick kmc SIGFPE < 1340009813 483072 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's a negative exchange rate at the moment < 1340009821 154827 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiiiiiii- < 1340009828 664875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 10,000 buys you [derisive item] < 1340009850 972624 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it actually possible for negative exchange rates to happen? < 1340009858 599824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing i only have 1834 < 1340009889 131975 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg.. 1 AUD is worth -4 CAD < 1340009947 837715 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that was possible, you could manufacture money X_X < 1340009966 901988 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please give me 200 AUD and 800 CAD. kthxbai" < 1340009975 775710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: no < 1340009987 577826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: after a while either you start hating yourself too much to farm reddit karma for money < 1340010002 756087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: or you start doing it non-ironically, and you're *one of them*, you become god-emperor of the universe < 1340010009 208321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the apocalypse begins in earnest < 1340010012 484312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Have you had any exciting 5-HT_2A adventures since the last one? < 1340010024 924652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the answer is tautologically "no". < 1340010029 480854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about some 89234-QjicJ)@(#90t adventures < 1340010045 77971 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1340010062 432556 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did nVidia stop being the better manufacturer for graphics cards for Linux? < 1340010063 435621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you're going to make up names to kmc, you have to know how to do it. < 1340010069 767646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1: base64 /dev/urandom < 1340010076 835489 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember hearing that ATI sucks on Linux and nVidia doesn't. What happened? < 1340010082 128634 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice tautology bro < 1340010088 683491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It goes back and forth every few years. < 1340010100 918939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 84-Q4829-1 < 1340010103 835448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does that get you < 1340010104 784072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"high" < 1340010105 754330 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we talking closed source drivers? < 1340010113 695599 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took some 4-AcO-DMT a few months ago but it was a low dose and nothing much happened < 1340010116 697944 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't taken any since then < 1340010123 185137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i need answers < 1340010134 326796 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you could at least pick actual obscure phenethylamines or tryptamines < 1340010136 626689 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal.shtml < 1340010141 677558 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal.shtml < 1340010151 952945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no < 1340010153 497415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's too much work < 1340010158 44406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Wow, is that drug even illegal? < 1340010165 665864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 5,6-MDO-MIPT < 1340010175 867442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you done any "5,6-MDO-MIPT" (as they call it in the streets) lately < 1340010186 67494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: btw i think you're technically guidelines-obligated to stop us talking about this < 1340010194 885563 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 4-AcO-DMT? "O-Acetylpsilocin is unscheduled in the United States. It may be considered an analog of psilocin, which is a Schedule I drug under the Controlled Substances Act of the USA" < 1340010201 985618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"may be considered" < 1340010210 571295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean it's not a thoughtcrime to consider it? < 1340010211 739466 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1340010214 947855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: try it! < 1340010224 201427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1340010224 485884 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of these have only been taken by like 5 people < 1340010224 646507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUALITATIVE COMMENTS : (with 35 mgs, orally) "Some paresthesia noted. Nothing else." < 1340010224 646694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with 50 mgs, orally) "Maybe a trace of activity after an hour. Certainly nothing at three hours." < 1340010224 646806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with 60 mgs, orally) "There is something going on there, but I can't tell what it is. Very vague." < 1340010224 646913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with 75 mgs, orally) "Just a teasing smell of light-headedness in twenty minutes, and maybe a bit more light-headedness in an hour. I can suspect the chronology, but the character of the effects remains nebulous. It is certainly less dramatic than the 5-methoxy-compound." < 1340010226 503205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1340010230 74655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds intense < 1340010235 252392 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: might mean that it hasn't been tested in court? < 1340010241 838741 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is legally vague? < 1340010253 667870 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i did take regular old MiPT though < 1340010273 217325 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of weird that the nomenclature in this field is just what shulgin made up for his lab notebooks < 1340010279 691318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: shulgin is kind of mad right < 1340010287 216075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As a legal entity, PDPC cannot condone or support behavior which is clearly unlawful. While PDPC does not have the resources to closely monitor the thousands of channels on the network, its staff and volunteers are required by policy to pass on credible information, provided by you as a network participant, about unlawful activities." I'm not staff, and I don't think I'm much of a volunteer ... < 1340010293 215484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... either. < 1340010302 826920 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't know really < 1340010304 884231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are a publicly logged channel, though. < 1340010319 140312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not necessarily in a bad way! < 1340010325 368765 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's really old now < 1340010333 759561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i heard that u kind of mad < 1340010334 389370 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a mad post on some forum.. i got ip banned < 1340010349 562073 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some kind of ban < 1340010361 343238 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been banned from places < 1340010381 423006 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was an appropriate ban. the things i said were very improper < 1340010392 156556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about GANESHA < 1340010394 587931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about some of that GANESHA < 1340010420 218191 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't tried < 1340010420 378249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORTHO-DOT < 1340010427 928607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 25 mg) Vague awareness, with the feeling of an impending something. Light food sat uncomfortably. By the late afternoon there was absolutely nothing. Threshold at best. ]] < 1340010441 750982 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got b& for posting ponies on /b/, does that count? < 1340010446 818276 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look somebody has to take all the shitty drugs all right < 1340010448 756642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i'm learning is that most of drugs suck < 1340010450 610771 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that somebody is not me < 1340010451 827309 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1340010452 579379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/of // < 1340010462 869215 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you make random chemical alterations to existing drugs you mainly get worse versions of those drugs < 1340010475 992983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drugs are ordered? < 1340010480 619431 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :partially < 1340010481 439692 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should just teach people that math is like drugs < 1340010487 435290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a semilattice at least? < 1340010495 223099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the best one? < 1340010495 423545 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: we had a saying, that the world is divided into math, drugs, and cardboard < 1340010528 11586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dualism < 1340010533 338929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's with three < 1340010535 171850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's true < 1340010537 540657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: these synthesis instructions are amazing < 1340010538 753017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so trualism < 1340010549 847640 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah only half of PiHKAL is online < 1340010557 279529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! what's the other half < 1340010564 258374 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, mainstream math is too arithmetic oriented < 1340010566 820040 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part that's online is the synthesis instructions and experience reports < 1340010576 746935 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by mainstream i mean the crap people like me know < 1340010588 966390 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first part of the book is a lightly fictionalized account of shulgin's life and his wife's < 1340010599 731776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1340010604 779097 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they talk about sex a lot < 1340010612 660486 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(counterexample) < 1340010620 69204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to what?) < 1340010621 518683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed a lot of description of erotic thoughts in the experience reports! < 1340010631 256929 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah if you want to read about how she wanted to get into his pants because he's the master of the cosmos < 1340010633 444944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so predictable ! ! ! < 1340010634 353545 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then read this book < 1340010653 252701 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also him trolling the government < 1340010655 551398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 50 mg) At about the two hour point, there was a precipitous drop of blood pressure (from 120/72 to 84/68) although the pulse stayed steady at 60. This trend had been apparent in earlier trials, and was being watched carefully. No further tests are planned. ]] < 1340010657 968706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: try BOHD < 1340010658 949036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds great < 1340010666 406399 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a party < 1340010669 204706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Re fake names, here's 50 names generated with a character 4-gram for you: http://sprunge.us/gdUH (Disclaimer: a couple of them might be accidentally real.) < 1340010683 349732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :3eO-4-7S-DIPGAMMD5-MA-3-TOM sounds impressive, for example. < 1340010701 955844 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha fizzie++ < 1340010702 665111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Now generate complexity classes! < 1340010710 646696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "psine" < 1340010716 180196 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes 2C-T-17 is real < 1340010724 168345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if 3eO-4-7S-DIPGAMMD5-MA-3-TOM was real what would it be < 1340010743 492082 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hell of a drug < 1340010751 593854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Maybe you should take some "3". Or some "T". < 1340010753 375095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's MeO-DMA < 1340010755 157718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 5-DM < 1340010761 600358 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4-MeO-DMT is real too < 1340010766 328732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal53.shtml t is rael sory < 1340010775 93540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1340010795 826390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is there a drug that will make me feel super sleep deprived < 1340010801 368008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"like the old days" < 1340010803 881011 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1340010805 738940 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know of one < 1340010836 882046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : help my left arm died for no reason < 1340010861 192712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --tihkal --pihkal 10 < 1340010864 176291 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: tihkal \ Unknown option: pihkal < 1340010866 953245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1340010871 611982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's the best LEGAL psychedelic < 1340010876 373460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish 10 # same thing? < 1340010880 85841 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sintuntenevinä intävämpämme kirjoavallensa yksistointämälle pommeerapistä laanjohtamia iinnostamila syvälttamme pysteli hakentävänä < 1340010883 495681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: LIFE < 1340010894 69837 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i quite like 2C-E < 1340010909 232784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :liptamine irco-fenasophanicue-2etryl < 1340010912 199119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i do it right kmc < 1340010919 643399 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 4-AcO-DMT is supposed to be the same as psilocybin mushrooms, which are pretty well understood and liked < 1340010951 213572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are all analogues or something. :-( < 1340010957 493279 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1340010962 728406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a drug for the digital age. < 1340010962 928865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I herd you can get high if you smoke banana peels. < 1340010966 448823 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want something that's not an analogue, that would be harder < 1340010985 178658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what common household objects have you inhaled < 1340010998 339945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have my "boring" response lined up if the response is "none" < 1340011004 528097 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :salvinorin A is not scheduled in the USA (federally) < 1340011012 636368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as safety goes I imagine you're better off finding something reasonably well-understood and illegal than something not understood and legal. < 1340011013 71417 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i would hesitate to call it "best" anything < 1340011018 844312 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indeed < 1340011022 768841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that salvia < 1340011031 952881 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: LSD and mushrooms would top that list < 1340011040 870600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :methyl (2S,4aR,6aR,7R,9S,10aS,10bR)-9-(acetyloxy)-2-(furan-3-yl)-6a,10b-dimethyl-4,10-dioxododecahydro-2H-benzo[f]isochromene-7-carboxylate < 1340011043 137691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate mushrooms once. < 1340011052 59556 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, government bans the safe, fun drugs so that people have to take the more dangerous counterparts < 1340011060 110307 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they also ban the really dangerous drugs, and then obfuscate the difference) < 1340011061 647270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think they made that illegal yet. :-( < 1340011071 195552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(GET IT!!) < 1340011079 889916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that salvia < 1340011081 945623 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, it's the active ingredient in salvia < 1340011087 208923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1340011087 867615 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's utterly unlike anything else < 1340011092 690925 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chemically, pharmacologically, or experientially < 1340011099 984457 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :salvia is fucking terrifying though < 1340011107 415520 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nothing like the beloved 5HT agonists < 1340011125 65906 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a little like 5-MeO-DMT perhaps < 1340011137 941722 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1340011140 256920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know about it is you sink through sofas or something and animal collective like it < 1340011142 318397 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :salvia is crazytimes < 1340011143 818539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you sink through sofas < 1340011146 321698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm mixing them up :( < 1340011146 877149 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1340011147 689460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs are hard < 1340011148 992705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1340011152 98139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to sink through my sofa < 1340011161 681959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like solid things being solid usually < 1340011166 52189 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who can't have fun without messing up their consciousness with chemicals fail < 1340011166 638130 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like the sofa splits open at the back and becomes a kaleidoscope < 1340011173 319412 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: nice strawman bro < 1340011177 453775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: zzzzzzzz < 1340011196 566101 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think calling strawman is a strawman in itself these days < 1340011199 827899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"chemicals" < 1340011201 202213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no chemicals < 1340011203 338963 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you don't know what a strawman is < 1340011220 38609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chemicals mess up thinking because they're artificial and that's why you should have no chemicals in your brain < 1340011222 268410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i a strawman!!!! < 1340011227 317633 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I do. Doesn't mean I always use it correctly < 1340011227 877357 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lumpio: Are there some people here who you know to be unable to have fun without substances? < 1340011248 124233 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lumpio: I assume there are because otherwise that comment would be rather unnecessary. < 1340011248 521146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Uh oh, substances. < 1340011269 929344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am made of MATTER. < 1340011275 16634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I'm unable to have fun wihtout substances! < 1340011280 288249 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with shachaf here < 1340011280 448020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION too mad < 1340011288 284799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Wait, on what? < 1340011295 791850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks around < 1340011298 987592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh it sounds like all your aims are hecked < 1340011301 876020 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ion: I'm unable to have fun wihtout substances! < 1340011306 914523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think it's like that "I'm with stupid" shirt. Oh, it wasn't. < 1340011308 572716 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/013111/serotonin-and-dopamine.gif < 1340011317 910417 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're so cute :3 < 1340011335 746152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it ok if i hate on people who use the word technically :'( < 1340011336 934977 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i buy a plush serotonin molecule yet? < 1340011344 439948 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be friends with my sharkbanana < 1340011355 860287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: technically it's not < 1340011358 609571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUN SHACHAF FACTS: < 1340011364 322153 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should make one! < 1340011369 549232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't stand the feel of velvet. < 1340011379 829440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I can't stand the feel of plush either, assuming I know what plush is. < 1340011384 916222 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can’t stand the feel of shachaf. < 1340011435 837774 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hairs on plush are longer aiui < 1340011448 710500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :WhatEVER. < 1340011452 148543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't stand either one. < 1340011467 726032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why people make those things. < 1340011471 514534 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't like sharkbanana :( < 1340011481 749103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry sharkbanana :( < 1340011488 330651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure sharkbanana is beautiful on the inside. < 1340011523 888882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you ever read _Momo_? < 1340011527 853737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book by Ende. < 1340011534 660829 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1340011545 418925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good book < 1340011554 62280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I thought it was when I read it many years ago. < 1340011559 8408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my age was single-digital. < 1340011576 222880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN BINARY!!!!! < 1340011587 778172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I ordered it again in order to read it again. < 1340011602 542078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION »= sleep. < 1340011669 288765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Where do endorphins go in the serotonin-dopamine thing? < 1340011692 10014 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [t]echnically < 1340011724 468374 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1340011731 903384 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1340011736 806239 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log technically < 1340011750 996387 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-06-04.txt:22:41:13: Erm, that doesn't technically describe Alaska, does it < 1340011757 456890 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log technically < 1340011764 789756 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-07-27.txt:21:52:05: well, technically it doesn't < 1340011773 811864 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log technically < 1340011780 285388 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C3BA.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340011784 123181 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-03-05.txt:21:30:26: cpressey, and glass harmonica is *technically* impressive < 1340011794 365278 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log technically < 1340011801 586882 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-10-15.txt:12:43:21: 9.9, technically. < 1340011817 487803 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a fascinating log query < 1340011875 326257 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog technically < 1340011880 273990 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.24600 < 1340012707 871974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1340013136 158563 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1340013172 684853 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1340013173 104919 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-241.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1340013173 265251 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1340013341 868971 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1340015615 845619 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1340017481 796326 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C3BA.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1340017507 804711 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C3BA.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340017554 28318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1340017648 943292 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helo < 1340017781 792905 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C3BA.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1340017810 820359 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's to pretending today will be a good day for all < 1340017900 722585 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also to the fact that programming simply isn't a performance art (yet) < 1340017925 855257 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if playing crawl and df can be performace art, then it's only a matter of time < 1340017932 473948 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_coding < 1340018027 8838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: livecoding is awesome, have you seen yaxu's stuff? < 1340018033 296075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's done haskell music livecoding < 1340018041 575707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really great < 1340018054 821941 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :URL please. < 1340018225 832039 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'm wrong, then i guess everything else is right in the world < 1340018317 210133 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an instance of conservation of ninjutsu < 1340018515 153385 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Video_presentations#Livecoding_Haskell < 1340018531 611317 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i was better at math i like to think i could write a fancy inverse kinematic animation engine < 1340018551 513479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, this latest step of this law thing is so much the best thing, I think it needs to go in our logs too, despite probably already making the rounds; I always hear these things last. < 1340018556 13025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On Friday, June 15, 2012, attorney Charles Carreon passed from mundane short-term internet notoriety into a sort of legal cartoon-supervillainy. < 1340018559 513404 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He transcended typical internet infamy when he filed a federal lawsuit last Friday in the United Sates District Court for the Northern District of California in Oakland. He belonged to the ages the moment he filed that lawsuit not only against Matthew Inman, proprietor of The Oatmeal, but also against IndieGoGo Inc., the company that hosted Inman's ridiculously effective fundraiser for the ... < 1340018565 512576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... National Wildlife Federation and the American Cancer Society. < 1340018568 17688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that level of censorious litigiousness was not enough for Charles Carreon. He sought something more. And so, on that same Friday, Charles Carreon also sued the National Wildlife Federation and the American Cancer Society, the beneficiaries of Matthew Inman's fundraiser. < 1340018572 15053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Charles Carreon, butthurt that someone had leveraged his douchebaggery into almost two hundred thousand dollars of donations to two worthy charities, sued the charities." < 1340018575 17191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.popehat.com/2012/06/17/the-oatmeal-v-funnyjunk-part-iv-charles-carreon-sues-everybody/ < 1340018594 467878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://yaxu.org/ < 1340018615 342795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See e.g. http://blip.tv/piksel/piksel10-slub-alex-mclean-dave-griffiths-4540027 for some video. < 1340018622 912770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite catchy 37 minutes in! < 1340018657 694557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.flickr.com/photos/lovebytes/6882856456/ too many strings! < 1340018683 450961 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_jLmX_8LH3uo/TcF-geBS48I/AAAAAAAAIc0/8yGzBQnRnYk/American%20Patriot%20Flag%20Wallpaper%5B4%5D.jpg < 1340018749 232179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was a livecode thing at altparty once. < 1340018761 284421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the 2010 iteration. "Dave Griffiths was raised on an early education in weaving, bell ringing and 8bit computers. He performs improvised livecoded techno music using text, visual programming, and hand made game engines." < 1340018773 11328 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light, what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming? < 1340018783 803189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the guy, but I vaguelly recall it was kinda funky. < 1340018798 403621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.altparty.org/2010/info/music.html#davegriffiths I remember those rectangular things. < 1340018808 211927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know what thing it is. < 1340018850 908724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: He's part of the same group thing. < 1340018858 822663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The squares are nesting or such. < 1340018860 958984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all very funky. < 1340018866 355342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaxu has a thing that has a bunch of nodes connected in a graph. < 1340019040 464725 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1340019275 975188 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Esoteric_programming_language&diff=prev&oldid=416289296 < 1340019400 462814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, what a shameless act of self-plugging. < 1340019438 802388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1340020395 349982 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Thankes < 1340020431 319269 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1340021258 2360 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHP Mega Demo 9000 - TRSI & DES!RE - @Party 2012 http://youtu.be/LCIsIfEOEI8 < 1340021439 50785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: haha < 1340021732 295209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: this is brilliant < 1340022440 544407 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-236.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340022478 29874 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-238.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1340024336 878529 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1340024754 112601 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1340024822 689722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What foolishness is this. If I type in "esolang.org", there's a grey text at the right saying "Press [Tab] to search Esolang (en)", and then it magically goes to Special:Search if I do that. Witchcraft! < 1340024943 753109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenSearch power! < 1340025019 576110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : LOOKS LIKE BLACK MAGIC TO ME < 1340025498 587069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340025513 517644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: remember when mooz played slaves to armok < 1340025519 112089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: monqy's IVAN experience is reminding me of it < 1340025530 231748 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.canlii.com/en/ab/abca/doc/2012/2012abca134/2012abca134.html "At about 2:00 a.m. on December 6, 2009, an Edmonton police officer noticed a Jeep leaving the parking lot of a drinking establishment with its lights out. He decided to follow it. As he did, he observed the vehicle drive through three stop signs without attempting to brake. -- The Jeep was brought to a stop. Immediately, ... < 1340025536 218920 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... the respondent emerged from the driver’s seat of the Jeep and approached the police car declaring: “I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m so fucked.” As will be seen from our disposition of this appeal, that was a prophetic statement." And they say courts have no sense of humour. < 1340025557 84750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, I do remember such a thing. < 1340025948 707390 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1340026167 66299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, a computer: http://hs13.snstatic.fi/webkuva/taysi/960/1305575177673?ts=473 (It's a render of that new IBM Sequoia that just made the top of that TOP500 supercomputer list.) < 1340026175 731159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they actually have as polished floors. < 1340026230 165542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, an actual photo: http://www.top500.org/files/Sequoia_small.jpg < 1340026274 375630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Are those "caution: slippery floor" cones in the back?) < 1340026809 1329 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1340027729 511029 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1340028738 429703 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.115.178.251 QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1340029274 938692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy i died in the tutorial < 1340029275 610925 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1340029775 136847 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1340029876 634622 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1340030718 422181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1340031197 667044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1340031358 99909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks :( < 1340031583 149183 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1340031891 231370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye ais523 < 1340031919 846181 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1340031926 744785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover oijd oih oqiwjwoti joewt jrjr < 1340032017 156443 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot should have said “Error: that is not a question.” < 1340032112 376025 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1340032128 360197 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1340032190 209404 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1340034792 498199 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340034858 638648 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1340034898 567198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heiohj < 1340035022 344242 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something's wrong < 1340035059 214616 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can connect to the internet in my bedroom < 1340035065 16615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im ged < 1340035380 928564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1340035435 123292 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just looking through the CD with drivers that came with the mobo. I was trying to find some documentation wrt wake-on-lan. I didn't find that, but I found a lot of unusual stuff. Such as IA64 drivers for the ethernet. And Linux drivers for something called Intel AMT. < 1340035444 607670 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a lot of EFI-related stuff < 1340035602 844711 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340035993 157052 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1340036018 495323 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340036228 826585 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1340036228 986542 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooo! < 1340036229 146207 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1340036236 860811 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, connection issues? < 1340036243 811132 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pång < 1340036244 78895 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :from here that looked fine < 1340036244 405515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1340036268 257201 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc lambdabot does some sort of fuzzy matching of commands? < 1340036276 353612 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1340036276 542082 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be expected < 1340036276 701921 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net NICK :Taneb|Hovercraft < 1340036294 665639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello god < 1340036296 893452 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tuoe (!!) < 1340036297 77794 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: quote time type < 1340036341 601950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuoe < 1340036370 278267 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tyoe (!!) < 1340036371 179453 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. [a] -> Int -> a < 1340036483 882598 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ < 1340036491 376711 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@ < 1340036618 585581 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love this BIOS changelog. For each of the 10 versions it lists it just says : "Improve system stability. Improve memory compatibility. Support new CPUs." < 1340036624 621436 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how unspecific < 1340036809 94684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make better" < 1340036814 697184 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much yeah < 1340036828 842036 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious as to how each of the 10 releases can improve system stability < 1340036877 831789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably means "fixed bug" < 1340036888 682548 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you work with BIOS? < 1340036904 776940 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1340036938 520953 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1340036961 549933 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340036994 241946 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking through to see if a specific issue I had was fixed. As it is only a minor issue (PS2 keyboard doesn't work under windows from cold boot, works fine when rebooting from linux or rebooting from windows after the keyboard was made to work by first rebooting from linux) I'm not going to bother though. < 1340037017 568959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You should play IVAN. < 1340037022 256257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you like limbs falling off for no reason. < 1340037030 604544 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :IVAN? What is that < 1340037038 132879 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you just described happy wheels :P < 1340037063 291184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's... a roguelike. Of sorts. < 1340037072 863317 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :go on < 1340037084 331864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's horribly unfair and each of your individual limbs get their own damage (DF-style) and can fall off. < 1340037101 574106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can pray to one of the gods to get, e.g. a metal replacement for it! < 1340037112 640361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very special game. < 1340037133 721063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the name is Latin for "a violent road to death". < 1340037164 545158 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1340037168 354498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Representative message: < 1340037211 827570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 18 08:59:22 14:21 You stab the kobold! You advance to skill level 2 with polearms! You < 1340037212 26249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 18 08:59:22 advance to skill level 5 with your balsa spear covered with different < 1340037212 26443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 18 08:59:22 types of blood! The kobold dies yelling like a tortured hyena. < 1340037221 90653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 18 09:02:42 15:03 The zombie hits you! You manage to block the attack with your bone! You advance to skill level 3 with your bone! The zombie hits you! You manage to partially block the attack with your bone! You advance to skill level 1 with blunt weapons! You advance to skill level 4 with your bone! < 1340037236 676374 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1340037244 124744 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like the progression is rapid? < 1340037247 667317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:52 You slash the zombie in the head! Its head is severed off! < 1340037248 66949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:52 The zombie takes a severed head of a zombie and attaches it to its torso. < 1340037260 336107 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1340037268 701054 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not fair < 1340037271 810888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 18 09:48:03 15:13 You feel very ill. Your right leg drops to the ground. < 1340037271 970765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 18 09:48:09 oops i guess bad things happened < 1340037271 970962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 18 09:48:33 15:13 You begin drinking the bottle full of healing liquid. < 1340037271 971071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 18 09:48:33 15:13 You grow a new right leg. < 1340037271 971179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 18 09:48:33 15:13 You feel better. < 1340037276 916063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get the idea. < 1340037290 753516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait I forgot the best one. < 1340037292 43705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:48 The levitating ostrich cackles cheerfully. It likes its life. < 1340037297 301351 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m stuck in Thief. :-( < 1340037299 938358 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hey can't you reattach limbs like the zombies? < 1340037320 797613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, you can pick up (and also eat) your severed limbs. Before eating it says "hey, you could reattach that, are you sure?". < 1340037326 474162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think sometimes praying to one of the gods will reattach it for you. < 1340037331 23424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a weird game. < 1340037336 831295 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1340037352 587078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also carnivorous mutant bunnies. < 1340037399 899601 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1340037714 353776 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1340038138 98167 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1340038138 716574 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1340038443 566037 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1340039723 360625 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1340040161 1090 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-249-44.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340040168 320227 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-236.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1340040634 659460 :Deewiant_!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi NICK :Deewiant < 1340040944 663412 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.4chan.org/co/src/1340009252555.jpg < 1340040949 365627 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooops < 1340041384 631170 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1340041440 524029 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1340043305 362066 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1340043709 519998 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1340044022 919249 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE MARMALADE Identity: Behind the scenes (Super Slow Motion Effects That Look CGI) http://youtu.be/cKC6j7pW6T0 < 1340044415 347170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: So the other day someone in #haskell was asking about some of the weird behavior of regex-compat. The response was "just write your own regexp library in pure Haskell". < 1340044499 159155 :nick_gongg!~user@chello062178202099.5.15.vie.surfer.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1340044517 688523 :nick_gongg!~user@chello062178202099.5.15.vie.surfer.at PRIVMSG #esoteric :names < 1340044528 656829 :nick_gongg!~user@chello062178202099.5.15.vie.surfer.at PRIVMSG #esoteric :date < 1340044574 544758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say June 11th, 1908. < 1340044581 157911 :nick_gongg!~user@chello062178202099.5.15.vie.surfer.at QUIT :Quit: date < 1340044588 332565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got it wrong. < 1340045827 789971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :names < 1340045828 241535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :date < 1340046048 455573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :November 8th, 1944? < 1340046290 888587 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1340047469 299938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1340047629 363000 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1340048042 378244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :better nate than dames !!!!!!! < 1340048065 209783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1340048125 336398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1704611&postcount=96 < 1340048199 608945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smells a not very pretty dog story < 1340048218 640215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1340048315 811658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite. < 1340049213 529856 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/month_day_year_america_failure.jpg < 1340049769 520937 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me a while to get that < 1340050040 240932 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8 < 1340050320 378123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1340050509 850462 :MDoze!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340050666 483618 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1340051435 454930 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is trivial < 1340051719 677809 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a typo in the "Longest Joke in the World" thing < 1340051722 654802 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If would be the perfect image, he imagines" < 1340051729 561191 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My gf found it) < 1340051730 59442 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEAR GOD < 1340051759 292333 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chooses to interpret this as Sgeo using his girlfriend as a spellcheck. < 1340051810 571811 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1340051840 372881 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me more than 3 seconds to spot that typo when staring at the sentence < 1340051854 633335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chooses to interpret this as Sgeo using his spellcheck as a girlfriend. < 1340051857 719016 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f and t look pretty similar in some fonts. < 1340051874 332074 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that's a bit of a bloated spellcheck. < 1340051916 828311 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not to say your spellcheck is fat, Sgeo, it could just lose a stone or two.) < 1340051928 428899 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The joke is that a stone is really heavy.) < 1340051957 84828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google sez "1 stone = 6.35029318 kilograms" < 1340051979 738270 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 14lb, for the metrically challenged. < 1340052029 524985 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALTHOUGH according to the 1772 Encyclopaedia Britannica a stone of beef was in Scotland 16lb. < 1340052147 502944 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C3BA.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340052310 354727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those who live in beef houses should not lose stones < 1340052487 916179 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why not? The house is made of beef not stone. Loosing a stone would be a non-issue. Unlike if you lived in a stone house. ;P < 1340052502 815867 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'll always be eating the beef < 1340052525 857789 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating your house? Disgusting. Also the beef would go bad very quickly anyway. < 1340052532 668977 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it was frozen I guess < 1340052565 458308 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would strongly advise against using beef as a building material. < 1340052650 175396 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1340052722 564948 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-249-44.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be jerky. < 1340052751 404626 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, :D < 1340052755 787174 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now really good night) < 1340052758 867374 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340052768 530638 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1340052782 785331 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1340052796 931641 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Taneb < 1340052805 929533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evnig < 1340052821 797455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except with more letters < 1340052987 482522 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what's the point of Prelude.Generalize.(++) when there's Control.Applicative.(<|>)? < 1340053492 170346 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb why do you keep asking zzo haskell questions < 1340053495 728160 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you enjoy the challenge < 1340053501 569423 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1340053509 315511 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I ask you Haskell questions? < 1340053543 824071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Just because of the stupid way the classes are designed, you might need to use it in something that has only MonadPlus as constraint; also, (++) is specialized. Ideally it shouldn't be needed for that purpose, but there it is < 1340053555 117847 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1340053557 149176 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can, but they will probably be wrong. < 1340053563 922866 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can ask me, like, maths questions? < 1340053617 680351 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really have any maths questions atm < 1340053625 340212 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only had one Haskell question < 1340053632 58671 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, here's another one! < 1340053640 246254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was one only zzo38 could answer... < 1340053647 639635 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such thing as a ComonadPlus < 1340053669 784685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...also sounds like zzo38's thing :P < 1340053699 685932 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I'm older, I want to be like zzo38, except British, Australian, and easier to understand. < 1340053702 554738 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also richer and cooler < 1340053712 969954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :british _and_ australian? < 1340053715 680723 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1340053722 205015 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dual nationality < 1340053725 439094 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(already achieved) < 1340053731 206898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1340053743 430320 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't know if there is any such things as ComonadPlus, although Comonad and Alternative are mutually exclusive. < 1340053751 822224 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they? < 1340053753 24972 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1340053756 139575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you should have 3 mansions, one in each hexham :P < 1340053759 566605 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1340053759 726841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1340053764 516184 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm told I could have a dual Irish nationality despite the fact that none of my ancestors have ever lived in the ROI. < 1340053775 6436 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, were you born in NI? < 1340053779 804619 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1340053788 740963 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's me out of ideas < 1340053794 419246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible for something to be both Comonad and Monad, but not to be both Comonad and Alternative. < 1340053802 873913 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in any case that'd qualify me for a British passport, not an Irish one. < 1340053816 541275 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, aww, come on. One Hexham's tiny and another's in New South Wales < 1340053833 410382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with new south wales, dmm is there < 1340053852 281151 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Victoria person < 1340053861 62679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1340053870 196626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not difficult. < 1340053876 104965 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's because my grandfather was born before the ROI was founded so he qualifies for Irish citizenship, and for some reason if any grandparent qualifies for Irish citizenship so do you.) < 1340053942 825752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'd assume he needs to be from Ireland, too? < 1340053961 315263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(presumably NI in this case) < 1340053977 838309 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1340053982 793638 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, only one of my grandparents was born in any country I hold a nationality for < 1340054092 143523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :were any of them dutch or is that further back < 1340054098 568771 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two of them were dutch < 1340054119 870431 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1340054141 1364 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great swathes of that bit of the Netherlands emigrated to Australia in the 50's < 1340054169 783392 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait really < 1340054181 319873 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1340054193 677421 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the van Doorns, the Wolswinkels, and the van Ecks did < 1340054200 441639 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some others < 1340054217 728498 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SWATHES < 1340054235 972251 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the wrong word, isn't it? < 1340054276 616104 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340054297 456989 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Great swaths of/Quite a lot of people from/ < 1340054297 909421 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it's a bit of an exaggeration. < 1340054378 643207 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_netherlands#Flooding_and_flood_control < 1340054385 196814 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of that, I think < 1340054410 379484 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything specific or just because it's, well, the Netherlands? < 1340054427 278425 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Utrecht area? < 1340054428 256818 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in victoria right now! < 1340054431 4100 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1340054431 839621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"darn, flood again, let's move to somewhere drier!" < 1340054445 421643 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Victoria is the best state < 1340054451 752700 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1340054456 528047 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better than Queensland and California < 1340054457 599587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i hear australia is the driest continent, let's go there!" < 1340054507 970698 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, these people were from a pretty rural area. Most of them depended on farming < 1340054520 968609 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When the fields flooded, crops were wiped out and livestock drowned < 1340054780 655725 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they gave up and went to the land were there was fire instead of water < 1340054829 655416 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, remember Black Saturday? < 1340054844 417728 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last time I went to Australia, I got there on the Sunday < 1340054880 534829 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well didn't affect me directly.. but i do remember something about fires or floods < 1340054889 202818 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floods were in Queensland < 1340054894 602547 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fire was in Victoria < 1340054902 645320 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couple of relative's farms got burnt < 1340054980 973238 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, goodnight, everyone < 1340054982 952530 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-244.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1340054987 785855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is Victoria in Canada too < 1340055284 284091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this seem a reasonable way to you for parsing a note letter? send_note(ch,channels[ch].transpose+(channels[ch].octave+(c, <, = < 1340057786 150430 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quote < 1340057798 990808 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yes < 1340057821 348375 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no quote word. just ' < 1340057832 449383 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :' is a reader macro < 1340057888 291798 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: and, or, cond, case, % < 1340057908 336980 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that'd be it.. there - complete programming system < 1340057963 299275 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't have those but I could implement them if I am going to rewrite lis.py < 1340057987 619461 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't want to look at that code again. it is in functional python) < 1340058128 979947 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a pretty printer and (trace) < 1340058211 432351 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some kind of display or read would be nice if you are going to use it for something < 1340058242 13585 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your lisp variant closer to scheme or cl or something else? < 1340058444 179671 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's accidentaly closer to cl < 1340058565 911766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1340058919 187419 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define (map function list) (if (null? list) () (cons (function (car list)) (map function (cdr list))))) < 1340058922 632017 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define (filter function list) (if (null? list) () (if (function (car list)) (cons (car list) (filter function (cdr list))) (filter function (cdr list))))) < 1340058925 703935 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define (reduce function list) (if (null? list) () (if (null? (cdr list)) list (reduce function (cons (function (car list) (car (cdr list))) (cdr (cdr list))))))) < 1340058945 196501 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5pq4hZcQ31r3ddn8o1_500.jpg < 1340059034 875308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the evil ion < 1340059055 648624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: How would you feel if I' say' used '\'' to approximate ,? < 1340059250 618457 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/4111194 < 1340059341 535699 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: :D < 1340059624 626287 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1340059638 273626 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-249-44.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1340059644 381114 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-226-66.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340059693 641903 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1340059873 914875 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1340059923 879001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote blood everywhere < 1340059924 235602 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1340059924 508535 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes for this person. Are you on drugs? < 1340059927 842245 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1340059929 282322 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1340059930 930262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote blood < 1340059933 14392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :malig says: I have to admit I'm still stunned when "tying the knot" actually works. it's like I just performed the kind of magic that normally requires a lot more goat's blood < 1340059937 603128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1340059945 1295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote blood < 1340059945 499816 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardkmett says: Most monad tutorials are written by people who barely understand monads, if at all, but unfortunately nothing can stop someone from writing a monad tutorial. We've tried, there was < 1340059945 676462 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blood everywhere. < 1340059990 806382 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I wholeheartedly encourage you to always do that from now on. < 1340060001 42520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What' the comma thing? < 1340060023 265795 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1340060026 723517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it,s a very lofty thing' isn,t it < 1340060052 968498 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes̛° < 1340060092 119135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hey now' we're trying to represent *more and more* characters using ASCII '\''! < 1340060110 101747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a' ok' < 1340060117 908332 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i've tried your reduce < 1340060123 238623 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my interpreter < 1340060168 355770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the lone list should be (car list) < 1340060174 414761 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I get (reduce + '(1 2 3)) => (6) < 1340060183 832985 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yep < 1340060256 386130 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1340060282 255385 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-44.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340060288 604787 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-226-66.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1340060532 701439 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are right < 1340060554 14662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oeracle < 1340060560 154688 :oeracle!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF COURSE I AM < 1340060566 173737 :oeracle!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan < 1340061046 818910 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed reduce < 1340061047 478980 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1340061049 554388 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define (reduce function list) (if (null? list) () (if (null? (cdr list)) (car list) (reduce function (cons (function (car list) (car (cdr list))) (cdr (cdr list))))))) < 1340061148 447860 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1340061161 437344 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-252.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340061161 597224 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-155-44.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1340061334 270902 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1340061346 151738 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got readline with completion in my repl < 1340061415 531893 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the repl written in lisp or in ruby? < 1340061447 61095 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby ;p < 1340061540 744287 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think repl in my lis.py was written in lisp but I am not completely sure < 1340061648 605561 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it this one: http://norvig.com/lis.py ? < 1340061693 646783 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. I have not my lis.py anywhere. it just has same name < 1340061712 943670 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+put < 1340061876 820515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which nortti_ is revealed as being Peter Norvig < 1340061921 508832 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. mt firsr name is Juhani and my second nane starts with H < 1340061927 128388 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*my < 1340061944 598918 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/second/last/ < 1340061963 129688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :juhani hnorvig, check < 1340061976 760356 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p no < 1340062400 654781 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's peter norvig anyway < 1340062437 80366 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1340062881 12974 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C3BA.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1340062907 43128 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C3BA.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1340063214 10963 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C3BA.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds