00:09:23 You happened. 00:11:16 who does "you" include? <-- his "you" mustn't be questioned. :D 00:28:39 -!- Yonkie has joined. 00:29:05 hum 00:29:57 Phantom_Hoover: some people apparently feast on knowledge in their early 20s... i don't know wheer they get the time or energy for it 00:30:09 maybe its even during teens 00:31:05 maybe cos my schooling didn't go so well 00:33:24 knowing things is depressing in a way 00:33:37 becoming aware of the ubiquity of experiences 00:38:31 or the way we humans make a big deal about continents, but were we to drain up the water, all we would find is a giant desert 00:46:35 humm 00:51:09 i think that learning is a delicate balancing act to ensure that you're still crazy enough at the end to want to use what you learned 00:53:42 OK 00:55:03 ah i got lost in a rant 00:55:18 itidus21: DIABEETUS 00:56:14 diabletes 00:57:55 one important step to success is to avoid learning any national security secrets that would encourage them to keep you under their eye 00:58:11 `ls bin 00:58:13 ​? \ @ \ No \ WELCOME \ WeLcOmE \ addquote \ allquotes \ anonlog \ calc \ define \ delquote \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ google \ hatesgeo \ joustreport \ jousturl \ json \ k \ karma \ karma+ \ karma- \ learn \ log \ logurl \ macro \ maketext \ marco \ paste \ pastefortunes \ pastekarma \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ pastlog \ ping \ prefixes \ qc \ quachaf \ quoerjan 00:59:33 another is avoid NDA's where reasonably possible 01:00:57 HackEgo doesn't do binary files? 01:02:48 Yes avoid NDA's 01:03:28 more importantly, if you are smart enough that someone thinks it's worth getting you to sign an NDA especially avoid it then 01:03:36 heh 01:03:38 or the way we humans make a big deal about continents, but were we to drain up the water, all we would find is a giant desert 01:03:39 i 01:04:15 you're speechless? 01:04:28 yes 01:04:29 yes i am 01:04:34 its ujst a thought that popped into my head 01:06:48 it may help if i explain that when i joined here i expected to find basic derivatives. everything else that followed can be traced back to that 01:07:11 Derivatives as in Brainfuck derivatives? 01:07:32 yes 01:12:11 get 01:12:12 out 01:12:12 now 01:13:09 -!- itidus21 has left ("i'll be back.. i must have been mistaken about what i expected to find .. this never happened :-s you'll get over it"). 01:13:25 Phantom_Hoover, even I've made a BF derivative (ok, so I'm not exactly the best person to use "even I've") 01:13:43 leave 01:13:53 there will be a new order 01:13:54 zzo38 used it in his own language. 01:14:20 I don't think I can get zzo38 to do anything, on account of him being almost Lovecraftianly incomprehensible. 01:14:32 -!- itidus21 has joined. 01:14:37 i mean i probably expected to find lisp, scheme, squeak, smalltalk, ocaml, bugsys, etc derivatives 01:14:39 The best I can do is just leave him and hope the cultists don't work out how to awaken him from his slumber. 01:14:58 itidus21, I've made a BF derivative 01:15:00 -!- itidus21 has left (">.<"). 01:15:16 That's OK I don't let the cultists work out how to awaken me from my slumber. 01:15:43 I will awake by myself when I want to be awake. 01:15:54 And may that day never come. 01:16:01 Sgeo_, anyway, out. 01:16:04 ais523, you too. 01:16:10 WHO IS NEXT 01:16:36 Phantom_Hoover: Perhaps you are next. 01:16:59 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 01:23:51 Phantom_Hoover: I make good language 01:23:53 for great good 01:24:04 I am worthy to be called #esoteric 01:24:09 no 01:24:15 i don't like you 01:24:34 ha. great response. 01:24:42 not "I disagree because ..." 01:24:44 just 01:24:47 "I don't like you" 01:25:27 YOU SHAN'T DISCREDIT MY WORK. 01:26:09 Each person can have a total of up to 52 pulp organs, 32 in the permanent and 20 in the primary teeth. The total volumes of all the permanent teeth organs is 0.38cc and the mean volume of a single adult human pulp is 0.02cc. 01:26:24 mmm dental pulp 01:26:58 Phantom_Hoover: does the UK flouridate its drinking water? 01:27:09 we do so in the US, and it's a big controversy 01:27:12 because people are stupid. 01:27:25 In some places, I think. 01:29:21 reducing dental care costs for poor families with many young children at very little cost is evil. 01:30:26 kallisti: See, it's mind-damaging poison. 01:33:46 You both know it's not that simple. 01:34:32 it really is.. 01:34:52 No. It isn't. 01:35:49 You know full well nobody's seriously arguing that it's bad because it improves dental health, and to dismiss all safety concerns as fears of it being 'mind-damaging poison' is not just dumb, it's patronising as hell. 01:36:47 I think Phantom_Hoover is correct. 01:37:16 I didn't say that's what they were arguing. I was saying that's the actual results of flouridation. 01:37:25 Phantom_Hoover: "Although water fluoridation can cause dental fluorosis, which can alter the appearance of developing teeth, most of this is mild and usually not considered to be of aesthetic or public-health concern.[10] There is no clear evidence of other adverse effects.[11] Moderate-quality studies have investigated effectiveness; studies on adverse effects have been mostly of low quality.[11]" 01:37:31 the case for fluoride seems pretty well cut out to me 01:37:39 and all anti-flouridation I have seen has been of the conspiratorial sort 01:38:07 elliott, I'm not saying it isn't, I'm saying that kallisti and pikhq's statements were dumb. 01:38:18 any circlejerking is dumb 01:38:37 I mean 01:38:40 I was just jerking alone 01:38:43 and then pikhq showed up 01:38:46 * kallisti shrugs. 01:38:57 the more the merrier. 01:39:11 I have seen serious discussion as to fluoride's safety, and although it concluded it's safe the alternative was seriously considered. 01:40:31 you could say that it puts too much trust in the government to ensure public safety. However, that argument extends to almost any large-scale public works project. 01:42:06 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:57:01 -!- itidus21 has joined. 01:57:36 itidus21: alternatively you could cover all the continents with water 01:57:41 and you'd just have a big ocean 01:57:57 not so important now, silly humans. 01:59:09 ha ha ha silly humans 02:00:46 sometime in the distant future all of the continents will eventually merge together again 02:00:56 and then break apart again 02:01:01 whoa, dude 02:01:06 yeah, man, 02:01:09 we're, like, a blink in the eye of the universe 02:01:52 I'd like to imagine that society dissolves 02:01:57 but we're still alive as a species 02:02:04 and dinosaurs happen again 02:02:27 I'd be willing to bet money that a sci-fi book about this very subject already exists. 02:03:07 you should always account for the fact that the person taking your bets might not care if you win 02:04:00 * kallisti roams the Neopangean landscape atop the sturdy spine of his feathered Neovelociraptor companion. 02:04:17 yeah everything is the same but with a Neo- prefix. 02:04:26 deal with it. 02:05:48 oh, except Velocirators weren't present during Pangea 02:06:25 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnachronismStew 02:09:09 Man, Wikiquote is terrible. 02:09:20 not as terrible as tvtropes 02:09:46 At least TV Tropes isn't formal. 02:10:19 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SomewhereAPalaeontologistIsCrying 02:11:19 Soon you'll realise that the idiots renamed all the "You Fail X Forever" into "Artistic Licence - X" to go easy on the poor little artists. 02:11:26 That is not a pleasant realisation. 02:11:41 whaaaaa 02:12:05 It's pretty simple, really. Some people seem to have gotten into their head that tvtropes should be 'serious'. 02:12:16 Rather than, uh, a bunch of people snarking at media extensively. 02:12:28 but that's all I /want/ from it. :( 02:14:41 Also they purged like all the sex-related tropes because apparently sex is something only perverts care about. 02:15:05 Phantom_Hoover: you are a pervert for knowing about those articles 02:15:09 shameful 02:15:59 -!- elliott has left ("Leaving"). 02:16:41 (OK well to some extent it was Google adsense forcing their hands, but IIRC they made it far more puritan than it had to be.) 02:16:55 The term 'paedoshit' featured prominently. 02:22:38 :| 02:26:18 -!- variable has joined. 02:31:31 -!- david_werecat has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 02:39:35 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:15:51 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 03:16:25 String comparing on RSS from Twitter does not work 03:16:34 Because it will sometimes mix up the order of attributes 03:24:00 -!- Jafet has joined. 03:26:04 -!- TodPunk has quit (Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something.). 03:28:59 -!- TodPunk has joined. 03:41:54 -!- variable has joined. 04:03:18 -!- monqy has joined. 04:10:31 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 04:10:43 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 04:24:57 Is pooryorick a regular here? 04:28:04 Someone I ask told me that there is no rule in boxing that says you have to get up as soon as you are able to. 04:28:27 Sgeo_: I don't know!! 04:37:15 zzo38: is there any rule in Indy racing that you have to press the accelerator 04:37:19 these are important questions 04:38:47 Does anyone drive behind you in Indy? 04:41:00 don't know 04:58:45 kallisti: who do you ask? _who_? 05:01:13 :? 05:01:15 zzo38: are you still playing that text boxing sim? :D 05:01:24 kallisti: about indy 05:03:29 in a professional chess tournament is it ok to wear a small lcd screen with flashing lights on your head? 05:06:22 probably not 05:06:53 though I've read stories about youth chess tournaments where opponents would tap their finger lightly 05:07:02 as a way to distract their opponent in a criticial move. 05:07:25 a very subtle thing that you could barely notice consciously. 05:07:58 is it illegal to sit in your indy car while you play chess? 05:08:12 inside the tournament building that is 05:08:20 -!- Sgeo__ has joined. 05:08:33 ok im going a bit far 05:11:33 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 06:10:53 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 06:25:03 itidus21: Yes I have still played that text boxing sim as well as other BBS door games today 06:33:15 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: hi). 06:59:48 -!- derdon has joined. 07:09:49 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 07:11:31 -!- nooga has joined. 07:19:28 -!- azaq23 has joined. 07:20:18 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:27:17 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 08:26:46 -!- derdon has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:13:18 -!- asiekierka_ has joined. 09:20:46 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 09:23:59 What's the formal name for Python's sucky coroutines? 09:25:08 Generators? 09:25:43 Does that encompass the lack of a function being able to ... nest... generators to become a generator 09:25:52 Wow, I have no idea how to describe what I want to say 09:26:23 * Sgeo__ vaguely wonders what metaprogramming is like in Lua compared to Tcl 09:26:48 What do you mean? 09:27:36 Python3 has "yield from" which is maybe what you're talking about? 09:28:01 You still need to mark places that use generators explicitly. 09:28:42 shachaf, oh, wow. That's good. Still can be annoying I guess, but at least it's livable 09:29:03 Wait, ... no. Can't really pass that into something as a callback, can you? 09:29:20 I'm not sure what you mean. 09:30:12 As in, a function that takes a callback, using generators to do a continuation-like thing and essentially telling the thing asking for the callback to resume the generator 09:30:38 So doing coöperative threading of sorts? 09:31:22 You would presumably have some kind of scheduler and add the suspended "thread" to the queue when you got the callback. 09:31:25 Or something. 09:32:13 I remember in a C# 3.5 project having to write a scheduler 09:32:48 "scheduler" is perhaps an overstatement here. 09:32:54 I just mean a queue. 09:34:08 while True: queue.pop().next() # or something 10:21:46 Ubisoft games on your computer? Any webpage can run any executable on your computer through their DRM crap. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4311264 10:25:10 I just helped someone in #tcl 10:25:23 How do I go so quickly from newbie to someone capable of providing help? 10:41:35 -!- shubshub has joined. 10:41:58 Goodnight shubshub 10:42:04 -!- shubshub has quit (Client Quit). 10:43:56 I'm suddenly struck by how popular purl.org is 10:44:03 Sgeo__: the explanation which is most damaging to your ego is the most likely one to be true 10:44:57 * itidus21 just made that up. 10:48:01 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 11:03:43 Heh, got five "on vacation" autoreplies to an email sent to the department staff@ address. It's the season. 11:11:11 So, just wrote code relying on a thing called xsxp under the impression that it was an XML parser. It is not. 11:11:46 Like the old adage says, "everything that's got an X in it is not an XML parser". 11:12:34 Well, something that calls itself an XML parser should probably be an XML parser. 11:12:36 "eXtremely Simple Xml Parser 11:12:36 " 11:13:08 It's more of a pretty interface to some other parser 11:15:54 X.org isn’t an XML parser? 11:18:14 -!- Jafet has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 11:51:33 -!- GlitchMr has joined. 11:55:44 I've feeling that this language isn't esoteric enough: http://paste.uk.to/6d77917c 11:55:56 (but at least it has REPL) 11:58:01 @msg Vorpal pictures of my t20: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28915864/IMAG0073.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28915864/IMAG0074.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28915864/IMAG0075.jpg 11:58:01 Not enough privileges 11:58:11 @tell Vorpal pictures of my t20: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28915864/IMAG0073.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28915864/IMAG0074.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28915864/IMAG0075.jpg 11:58:11 Consider it noted. 11:59:00 Samsung SyncMaster710? I once had such... :P 12:03:35 Also, I think I went too far with implementing unit testing in my language :P 12:03:38 http://paste.uk.to/4d462f6b 12:06:58 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:07:25 -!- augur has joined. 12:10:21 -!- sirdancealot7 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 12:11:40 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:22:44 -!- sirdancealot7 has joined. 12:33:03 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 12:38:03 -!- boily has joined. 12:39:17 -!- augur has joined. 12:43:44 I think I had a SyncMaster brand CRT once. 12:44:36 It was notable for having that 5*BNC style input too, and those also supported combined H/V sync (and sync on green) so I could use a 13w3/4*BNC adapter cable with it. 12:45:18 Maybe "notable" is a bit too fancy a word. 12:45:54 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 12:49:36 -!- ogrom has joined. 13:12:13 -!- fizziew has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:24:25 -!- Tod-Autojoined has joined. 13:24:39 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:24:39 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:24:54 -!- Sgeo__ has joined. 13:27:14 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:27:40 -!- Sgeo__ has joined. 13:29:30 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 13:29:58 -!- MoALTz has joined. 13:32:58 -!- copumpkin has joined. 13:41:10 s/It was notable for having/It had/ 13:44:23 -!- ogrom has quit (Quit: Left). 13:45:29 -!- ogrom has joined. 13:54:02 GlitchMr: I got that syncmaster for free few years ago 13:54:10 :) 13:55:14 the computer is literaly dug from dumpster 14:07:07 -!- derdon has joined. 14:29:41 -!- oonbotti has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:30:10 I am beginning to hate the Tcl ecosystem 14:30:42 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:38:07 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: brb). 14:39:47 -!- augur_ has joined. 14:39:48 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:39:51 -!- MoALTz has joined. 14:41:28 -!- augur_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:41:52 -!- augur has joined. 14:42:31 -!- MoALTz has quit (Client Quit). 14:56:16 -!- MoALTz has joined. 15:06:39 Sgeo__: why? 15:07:16 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 15:07:24 nortti, I was forced to use an obsolete tDOm because I couldn't get TclXml working with tclkit and I couldn't find a newish tdom.kit 15:07:37 ok 15:08:45 -!- oonbotti has joined. 15:15:27 -!- elliott has joined. 15:18:24 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:18:45 -!- augur has joined. 16:02:01 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:02:16 -!- augur has joined. 16:30:13 -!- centrinia has joined. 17:07:58 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 17:16:17 -!- monqy has joined. 17:23:41 -!- centrinia_ has joined. 17:25:18 -!- centrinia has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 17:27:27 -!- aloril has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 17:32:19 -!- centrinia_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:42:01 -!- aloril has joined. 18:13:19 -!- Tod-Autojoined has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:15:14 -!- TodPunk has joined. 18:46:11 -!- stanley has joined. 18:48:37 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:49:50 -!- zzo38 has joined. 18:55:28 -!- ogrom has quit (Quit: Left). 19:00:59 -!- aloril has joined. 19:15:23 -!- GlitchMr has quit (Quit: generic quit message because it's late for me). 19:16:58 -!- MoALTz has joined. 19:41:20 -!- azaq23 has joined. 19:48:53 -!- asiekierka_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:56:15 do you know about the state of Plan 9? Is is completely unusable, usable by my standard or really usable? 19:56:17 -!- ais523 has joined. 20:00:02 I don't know. 20:03:27 Antwerp railway station: http://users.ics.aalto.fi/htkallas/20120721_003.jpg 20:04:08 :-D 20:05:10 :D 20:05:43 It was also still like that about seven hours laters when we were leaving. 20:37:13 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 20:53:22 -!- Taneb has joined. 20:53:25 Hello! 21:09:35 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 21:11:45 -!- variable has joined. 21:20:09 @messages 21:20:09 You don't have any new messages. 21:20:11 :( 21:20:14 :( :( :( 21:21:41 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:24:12 zzo38, hello 21:28:54 -!- sirdancealot7 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:40:24 -!- boily has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8). 21:48:00 preflex: seen kmc 21:48:04 Hah. 21:49:43 @tell Taneb hi 21:49:43 Consider it noted. 21:51:00 Lambdabot tells you when you got messages :) 21:51:13 @tell mroman Right? 21:51:13 You can tell yourself! 21:51:32 No, I don't talk with myself! 21:51:51 @messages? 21:51:51 Taneb: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. 21:51:57 @messages 21:51:57 elliott said 2m 14s ago: hi 21:52:08 @@pl messages 21:52:14 mroman, if you talk when it's in the channel, yes. 21:56:23 What? 21:57:49 -!- sirdancealot7 has joined. 21:58:54 lambdabot notifying you of new messages. 22:00:51 @@ @tell elliott @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo 22:00:51 Consider it noted. 22:00:57 @help 22:00:57 help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands 22:25:53 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:28:43 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 22:35:57 -!- nortti_ has joined. 22:36:50 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:43:17 -!- david_werecat has joined. 22:55:41 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:03:16 -!- stanley has quit (K-Lined). 23:07:45 -!- tswett has set topic: Vive le plarimasthugl! | }B? | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 23:09:41 -!- derdon has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:27:40 -!- augur has joined. 23:32:39 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:38:37 -!- nortti_ has quit (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )).