< 1344298530 537228 :nortti_!~androirc@a91-154-82-50.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1344301282 296270 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CD14.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344302250 500500 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-6.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1344302343 592117 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-6.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344302557 953561 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1344302909 915438 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1344303032 402790 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344303374 172742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ping < 1344303869 4940 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1344303882 461955 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1344305053 235582 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1344306952 812300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1344306994 484497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1344307420 604099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of some rules for a different game played using snooker ball/table. < 1344307507 507155 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1344307551 370361 :TodPunk!~Tod@75-162-234-29.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1344308347 495539 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Due to my problem, instead of being a client it's an IRC bot now < 1344308442 98173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite so. < 1344309103 695886 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-114.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344309247 501823 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-6.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1344312119 819225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1344312887 106390 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there like 20 clop videos on youtube where the point is to laugh at the game < 1344312910 496535 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you upload a video where you suck < 1344312937 889812 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's the one who actually finishes it but i'd expect *someone* to upload a video where they actually play well < 1344313073 225026 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1344315118 722529 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clop as in qwop? < 1344315186 322374 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION discovers that the google logo game can be played with the mouse alone < 1344315225 584168 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION discovers that 2+2=4 < 1344315780 515564 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1344316244 231083 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1344317000 186584 :TodPunk!~Tod@75-162-234-29.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344318527 456583 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-114.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1344318530 488435 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-65.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344320955 459419 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1344320964 439560 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344320969 205065 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1344322196 590801 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Pong < 1344322301 441024 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1344322308 488142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Too late! < 1344322346 787798 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1344322372 918349 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344322384 516673 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1344322609 928910 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344322699 974858 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google snozzberry < 1344322702 45265 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snozzberry < 1344322702 233176 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Urban Dictionary: snozzberry < 1344323588 356213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344323673 915982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Is oonbotti yours? < 1344323692 90240 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344323698 137157 :Eladith!~valtias@gzrrplox.kortex.jyu.fi QUIT :Quit: Changing server < 1344323766 782202 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : No, make up some feelings and tell her you have them. *Zoidberg raises his hand. Yes? Is desire to mate a feeling? Ugh, you're not even trying. Ohhh, it's all so complicated, with the flowers, and the romance, and the lies upon lies. < 1344324124 947010 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1344324421 830178 :Eladith!~eladith@gzrrplox.kortex.jyu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1344325418 558182 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1344325419 538003 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.219.199 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1344325419 725679 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :*.net *.split < 1344325688 142599 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1344325975 815293 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1344326189 998576 :mig22!~mig@bb116-15-1-16.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1344326656 129879 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1344326915 597415 :mig22!~mig@bb116-15-1-16.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1344327105 678943 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.219.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344327908 844891 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : (and in haskell you just start a thread for each stream to read from) <-- you can do that in C too < 1344328003 700768 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, he's not even here < 1344328009 415582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nm then < 1344328053 506007 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344328106 555201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: C DOESN'T HAVE THREADS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT < 1344328110 504354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess C11 does. < 1344329326 849388 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, but they might be waterboarding on the olympics now < 1344329441 963594 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344329607 603135 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1344329622 897783 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why do you ask? < 1344329889 972555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone posted an amusing screencap about the Finnish Olympic team's Facebook fan page; it has a standard "non-profit organization" description prominently below the name, except in the Finnish localization that's "voittoa tavoittelematon yhdistys", lit. "an organization which does not try to win", a kind of a defeatist goal for an Olympic team to have. (Finnish "voitto" can mean both profit ... < 1344329895 930129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and win/victory.) < 1344329925 379494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Why not? < 1344329975 897645 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what made you ask that? < 1344330421 699110 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of all the things my teeth can do.. why toothache.. why now... why not when i am older and i can remove them without scaring away the babes < 1344330826 703292 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Connection reset by PO < 1344331348 903934 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1344331654 641620 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1344332605 193669 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344332770 666101 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344333851 769003 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1344334865 56709 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344334881 12103 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1344334912 54741 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344335228 108356 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1344335798 578088 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1344336006 547144 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8915E.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344336746 386105 :Ngevd!4e92adcc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.146.173.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344337663 708429 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.219.199 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1344337925 85378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344338205 76153 :Ngevd!4e92adcc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.146.173.204 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1344338508 481306 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1344338541 300906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Hey, you know lots about Windows file locking APIs, right? < 1344338565 722082 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, no. < 1344338584 615105 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Off the top of my head there's a LockFile function. < 1344338593 586211 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably an UnlockFile as well. < 1344338635 158662 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're talking about opening with exclusive access, which is different. < 1344338733 121768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Opening with exclusive access works for me too. < 1344338747 255915 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use fopen(3), then. :-P < 1344338760 460713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: There's a flag for that? < 1344338773 967904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There must be some reason this code does an fcntl/F_SETLK dance. < 1344338789 896850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there's read locks and write locks here!! < 1344338844 705493 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fopen_s evidently does exclusive access by default. < 1344338874 576212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that exist on Linux? I sure wish I could avoid an #ifdef of any kind here. :( < 1344338938 405699 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether fopen(3) opens with sharing or not. < 1344338963 250563 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in any case, if you want to lock on Linux as well, I'm pretty sure you need an #ifdef. < 1344338987 436017 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glibc adds the "x" flag for fopen, which passes O_EXCL to open(2). < 1344339008 584156 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including it will probably cause an error on Windows. < 1344339154 697663 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344339189 14506 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344339381 158906 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1344339706 628884 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344339755 242540 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.209.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344340060 157202 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-27.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1344340306 776767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: So does that fopen_s thing have a "read lock" vs. "write lock" concept? < 1344340338 52736 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's just "nobody else can touch this" < 1344340356 390813 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read MSDN's fopen_s page, I think they linked to something with more granularity < 1344340363 874156 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the end you can always use CreateFile < 1344340405 418386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1344340595 542498 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344340733 560145 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1344341293 602776 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-1-16.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1344342054 423981 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-27.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: begone < 1344342414 793417 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-1-16.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1344344365 410234 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1344345348 233785 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1344346997 451481 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-144-152.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344348425 520310 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1344352393 598607 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1344353543 653185 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that, although I read about Fibers in Ruby once, I don't know the difference between fibers and coroutines. < 1344353606 973615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back when I read about them, I thought the difference was that fibers can call yield in a function nested in a function and have it work properly --- but that's a distinction between types of coroutines. < 1344353614 41580 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only knew of Python generators at the time < 1344354750 183320 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1344354752 569266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1344354801 525340 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1344355395 944906 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1344355405 895221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher://zzo38computer.cjb.net:70/0textfile/gamerules/00001 < 1344355507 30699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of this game? < 1344355732 718471 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1344355766 953759 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor game, did not load properly in browser < 1344355820 136567 :TodPunk!~Tod@75-162-234-29.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1344355831 229917 :TodPunk!~Tod@75-162-234-29.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344355952 633603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then load it on a command-line < 1344356023 587807 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1344356042 558164 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1344356126 416945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is only the text and does not play game by computer) < 1344356363 343960 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if Erlang's run-time hot-swapping stuff is overkill for just wanting to develop without stopping the program. < 1344356873 697970 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :My IRC bot is looking ok < 1344356882 282198 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay debugging using netcat < 1344357240 765273 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :clop stopped working :( < 1344357247 542381 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.foddy.net/CLOP.html is it just me? < 1344357299 924961 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-190.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344357404 941849 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that clop is boring compared to other kinds of clop < 1344357414 129285 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nods* < 1344357478 295449 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-137-65.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1344357497 93214 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh um suddenly i can't open youtube either. < 1344357501 8158 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't load plogin < 1344357504 414685 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :plugin < 1344359054 345795 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Works for me < 1344359741 62446 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1344360573 503601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made a few changes to that file. < 1344360577 573285 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1344360620 452163 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1344361538 968311 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :Poniest < 1344361964 992422 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you done to become more pony? < 1344362079 462775 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was always the poniest. < 1344362188 774280 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344362612 418993 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, S-lang has a select module < 1344362616 393241 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can write my IRC client after all < 1344362856 882223 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the video sync is broken on youtube for me today... How strange < 1344362866 233765 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :even on videos that worked fine earlier < 1344363664 495253 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344364018 368542 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1344364046 650599 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0E3B8.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344364797 59869 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1344365084 311642 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1344365792 396348 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344365938 656051 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1344367300 761627 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1344367462 628335 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what should I do for the next IOCCC. < 1344367488 183347 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poniest: a textmode rotozoomer < 1344367503 777928 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I should just steal ideas from the last IOCCC then? < 1344367556 871090 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poniest: if you want something that has not been done at IOCCC try operating system :P < 1344367605 991636 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... there hasn't been a kernel in IOCCC??? < 1344367621 322563 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1344367654 240859 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1344367701 852583 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the rules allow a sensible "kernel"? kernels typically aren't very portable < 1344367720 973278 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that ioccc stuff has to be completely portable < 1344367728 606801 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. it has been done < 1344367735 741771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I recall there being a tiny OS in the IOCCC < 1344367741 310872 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might have been some other contest though < 1344367751 510758 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had mouse support! < 1344367762 142402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1344367820 785752 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and windowing system < 1344367851 134061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (and in haskell you just start a thread for each stream to read from) <-- you can do that in C too <-- yes, but not without segfaulting on the first six tries. < 1344367857 822184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so i hear. < 1344367872 218869 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poniest: windowing system < 1344367874 513654 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, here's one that generated a kernel image: http://www.ioccc.org/2004/gavin.hint < 1344367881 624576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They make the programs that segfault on the first six tries if not being good at C programming. < 1344367897 661737 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : do the rules allow a sensible "kernel"? kernels typically aren't very portable // I wrote a JIT ^^ < 1344367899 941771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: NO, EVERYONE. NO EXCEPTIONS. < 1344367968 352335 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poniest: yeah, I know :) < 1344367983 435639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are you sure? < 1344368016 934797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if exist a free and open source clone of Famicom Disk System BIOS? < 1344368022 263437 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344368050 490454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: SO I HEAR. < 1344368114 955092 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1344368138 197359 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1344368233 654966 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that os seems pretty awesome. maybe I should use it as my main os :P < 1344368241 245712 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't any info on how you invoke select() from S-Lang. In C, it requires a custom data structure, but that structure doesn't seem to be around in S-Lang < 1344368396 675467 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1344368638 383280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1344368654 930552 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have vague memories of select() not working the way I wanted it to on Windows < 1344369257 587487 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be fun to do some iocccing eventually < 1344369261 90809 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems in S-Lang, select() returns two values and takes arrays of file descriptors < 1344369383 803732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… it seems that a Lotus Notes marketing guy found a thread discussing it in TDWTF forums, necro'd it, and it's sort-of taken off < 1344369406 166475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can sort-of guess what happened from there < 1344369452 757569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :enormous increase in market share? < 1344369465 724233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, I doubt it's correlated < 1344369473 191670 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :necro'd? < 1344369476 402939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do know what Lotus Notes is, right? < 1344369484 164061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: forum term for when you post in a really old thread < 1344369491 978704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forums vary a lot on how much it's permitted < 1344369542 430120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it ought to be always perferred over making a new thread about the same thing as the other one < 1344369567 823319 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :something being discussed on tdwtf can not be good for whatever being discussed < 1344369589 323949 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr that notes is one of those things that ought not have good things happen to it < 1344369684 3231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Don't know how that's relevant to a discussion on Lotus Notes. Ctrl+N in most software gives you a new "*". Since Lotus Notes is a database application, in Lotus Notes it gives you a new Database. < 1344369699 989441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: Lotus Notes is most commonly sold as / used as an email client, or Outlook-equivalent) < 1344369706 399955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is from the person who's defending it < 1344369742 603188 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's important to respect what people *should* use your software for, not what they're actually trying to do < 1344369783 320178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer software can be used for other purposes not necessarily only what it is designed for, though. < 1344369798 234118 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's WRONG < 1344369814 811934 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: not really) < 1344369871 220947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, TDWTF have been strongly against Lotus Notes for years < 1344369871 409182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're continuing for personal amusement, I think < 1344369878 800100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why the marketing person is, possibly the same reason < 1344369894 773755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, there's a theory that it's an exceptionally clever troll < 1344369900 423447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if so, it's fun enough to continue to watch < 1344369905 735899 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, could be a troll who is slightly more-than-averagely familiar with notes < 1344369911 512062 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344369938 125331 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344370229 517305 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1344370683 563197 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-225-190.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1344370685 471457 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-114.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344371181 829544 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344371805 671868 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so the reason for the necroing was that notes' feed reader lost the post for 2 months < 1344371823 447979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1344371848 972003 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1344371888 43091 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good marketing is turning a negative into a positive < 1344371939 334984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a option for GCC to compile a C program file twice with different preprocessor macros? < 1344371982 236909 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1344372036 961808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there need two versions of this file (including different .o file if it would help) < 1344372075 289322 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you need to compile it twice < 1344372107 693579 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the "&& gcc" flag, then repeat the command line for the second file < 1344372134 605936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you just list the file twice with options to change other things between? < 1344372141 488979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just wildly guessing here < 1344372144 912082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is option to make a different .o file output? < 1344372153 645015 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-o < 1344372171 468144 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc -c foo.c -o foo.o < 1344372183 312642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1344372184 37748 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc foo.o -o foo < 1344372205 946445 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why with all caps? < 1344372226 994803 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that how you're supposed to spell ok? < 1344372250 94508 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes X_X < 1344372250 319979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you and others write with all lowercase, then? < 1344372275 837576 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :“OK” and “okay” are commonly-accepted spellings. “ok” is not. < 1344372303 524885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poniest: Unless it is Forth, in which case the prompt should be spelled "ok". < 1344372376 595519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use the secret all-lowercase font, except when i don'T < 1344372377 80014 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK and upper-case ok are ambiguous though, so you can't tell if someone's shouting ok or just saying OK < 1344372392 233467 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and OK can't be shouted, while ok can < 1344372407 747041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1344372414 758531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to write shouting write !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1344372424 786235 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok!!! < 1344372430 794282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how archaic! < 1344372439 299335 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1344372449 96860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who uses PUNCTUATION for shouting these days < 1344372452 591128 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, today is saturday < 1344372462 531938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right... < 1344372473 43326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sidles away from time dilated olsner  < 1344372474 469037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not Saturday in my country. < 1344372479 301192 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I'm not working either today or tomorrow, it is a saturday < 1344372482 796999 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither in mine < 1344372493 3042 :augur!~augur@pool-71-241-228-185.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344372500 24814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it is Saturday anywhere on Earth because the timezones don't work that way. < 1344372567 179487 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saturday has been in effect since July 14 < 1344372567 974916 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what if someone of us is using time machine modem? < 1344372634 565389 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-114.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Y'mean nobody uses UTC-100? :P < 1344372671 822579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I wouldn't think they would use UTC-100, but I don't know everything. < 1344372679 407056 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nowhere on _Earth_. what about other planets < 1344372722 543612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe on other planets they might do so if there are more hours in a day < 1344372794 388082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Control.Concurrent; main = foldr ((>>) . forkIO . putChar) (return ()) "time machine modem" < 1344372808 606525 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :time machine modem < 1344372816 719031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1344372821 760613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1344372920 26323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Control.Concurrent; main = foldr ((. forkIO) . (>>) . putChar) (return ()) "time machine modem" < 1344372921 827857 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there are actually only 5 days of the week: monday, tu/we/thursday, friday, saturday and sunday < 1344372925 646832 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX5680.hs:1:55: \ Couldn't match expected type `()' with actual type `ThreadId' \ Expected type: IO a0 -> IO ThreadId -> IO () \ Actual type: IO a0 -> IO ThreadId -> IO ThreadId \ In the first argument of `(.)', namely `(>>)' \ In the second argument of `(.)', namely `(>>) . putChar' < 1344372931 204358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1344372944 194933 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, most weeks the middle weekday happens three times < 1344372951 52714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Control.Concurrent; main = foldr ((. forkIO) . (>>) . putChar) (return undefined) "time machine modem" < 1344372956 759355 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX5739.hs:1:55: \ Couldn't match expected type `()' with actual type `ThreadId' \ Expected type: IO a0 -> IO ThreadId -> IO () \ Actual type: IO a0 -> IO ThreadId -> IO ThreadId \ In the first argument of `(.)', namely `(>>)' \ In the second argument of `(.)', namely `(>>) . putChar' < 1344373027 701637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1344373045 243385 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:59 < Gregor> Poor nortti. IRCing through a time-machine-router. < 1344373060 79030 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was time machine router, not modem < 1344373092 913228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : well what if someone of us is using time machine modem? < 1344373101 956695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE PAST DISAGREES WITH YOU < 1344373140 439865 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't remeber correctly < 1344373245 887729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Control.Concurrent; main = foldl ((. putChar) . (>>) . forkIO) (return undefined) "time machine modem" < 1344373251 677269 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :medom enihcam emit < 1344373258 746237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah :( < 1344373282 37200 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1344373349 275687 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-173-204.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1344373350 216488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Control.Concurrent; main = foldl ((. (forkIO . putChar)) . (>>) . forkIO) (return undefined) "time machine modem" < 1344373355 834341 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX5876.hs:1:74: \ Couldn't match expected type `ThreadId' with actual type `()' \ Expected type: IO ThreadId -> IO a0 \ Actual type: IO () -> IO ThreadId \ In the second argument of `(.)', namely `forkIO' \ In the second argument of `(.)', namely `(>>) . forkIO' < 1344373381 252622 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write down my day-of-week rules somewhere < 1344373390 614414 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1344373423 658705 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that I have proof when I say it's saturday and you say it isn't :) < 1344373457 8590 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, it might not be saturday for you < 1344373562 778672 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are you trying to do? < 1344373580 634737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting a bit of nondeterminism < 1344373582 479692 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Astrolog says day of Mercury 1407.60 and day of Venus 5832.24 so once you decide what is UTC, then I suppose you could have UTC-100 < 1344373623 687631 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The proper medication for a case of Lotus Notes comes in a variety of calibers, and is best applied intracranially." < 1344373632 257529 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the notes hate runs deep in these waters < 1344373641 547621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Control.Concurrent; main = foldl ((. ((>> return ()) . forkIO . putChar)) . (>>) . forkIO) (return ()) "time machine modem" < 1344373647 256231 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1344373656 362545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1344373796 571326 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1344373850 726118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows why that happened, but gives up anyhow. < 1344374203 216625 :augur!~augur@pool-71-241-228-185.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344374521 135732 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this lotus notes thread mentions an MLP mod for Skyrim < 1344374578 306465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Hey, maybe I can register a .fi domain. < 1344374593 975182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/y/h/, naturally. < 1344374634 177559 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why? < 1344374682 665839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why what? < 1344374742 946918 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why you'd want to register .fi domain? < 1344374781 19711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there are so many good ones not taken! < 1344374816 685702 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because finnish domain names need to be valid finnish words < 1344374834 809426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do? < 1344374837 351852 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1344374845 631046 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make sure only the bad ones are taken? I dunno < 1344374856 938285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't see that in the list of requirements. < 1344374857 126139 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell dy.fi is allowed then? < 1344374906 430243 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is obviously the expert on finnish domain names here < 1344374934 437183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You don't mean to say that you would -- just make things up? And type them into IRC? < 1344374961 654429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ei dy suomi < 1344374987 741830 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mitä? < 1344374995 571536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaksi < 1344374996 308307 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why would I do something like that? < 1344375007 512319 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You are talking out of your ass. :-P < 1344375018 294922 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I suppose you could. < 1344375031 850959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently one needs a Finnish mailing address. < 1344375038 700280 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1344375046 662939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Finnish domains are expensive. < 1344375065 649151 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yhdeksän? < 1344375101 416691 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :miksi te kommunikoitte numeroilla? < 1344375120 415975 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc, a hundred euros in finnish would be €sata < 1344375150 409222 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it would be sata euroa < 1344375180 165945 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1344375219 771839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :meidän pitää laskea < 1344375225 822135 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :miksi? < 1344375272 194755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :koska numerot ovat perusta maailmankaikkeuden < 1344375317 435011 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ovatko? minä luulin että alkeishiukkaset ovat < 1344375374 906746 :augur!~augur@pool-71-241-228-185.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344375408 281987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of language has maailmankaikkeus be the word for "universe", anyhow < 1344375433 597566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good kind! < 1344375479 37116 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That translates directly to something like “the entirety of the world”. < 1344375488 734036 :augur!~augur@pool-71-241-228-185.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344375511 829745 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I kind of want to learn finnish now < 1344375535 674293 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1344375545 994617 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's weird < 1344375570 977803 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also epäjärjestelmällisyydettymyydeltäänkin < 1344375571 715002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically there is a norwegian word "verdensaltet" that's similar, but everyone outside church services says universet anyhow < 1344375632 992557 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world salt < 1344375653 756612 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, or worth salt? < 1344375662 665769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: because of you, my mouth hurts. < 1344375680 301501 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yliesierikoisapulaisvaravaurioraivausvuorovarausratkaisupäällikkö < 1344375684 574752 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your search - epäjärjestelmällisyydettymyydeltäänkin - did not match any documents." < 1344375760 530737 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellisyydellänsäkäänköhän < 1344375762 262335 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that is not a common word < 1344375790 872558 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :helpful google translate suggests "Did you mean: epäjärjestelmällisyyde ttymyydeltäänkin" < 1344375797 286098 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still can't translate it :) < 1344375812 442857 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well those two words mean nothing < 1344375818 496396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncertainty a systematic heaped sell Delta each < 1344375831 19667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get if i split the first one just right < 1344375846 544020 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1344375847 957629 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can’t be split. It’s not a compound word. < 1344375858 645770 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The yliesi… is, on the other hand.) < 1344375902 826386 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. It is, actually. The words are “epä” and “järjestelmällistyttämättömyydellisyydellänsäkäänköhän”. < 1344375925 509887 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"taneously from one non-systematic heaped sell Anki" < 1344375962 262198 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it? Epä is a prefix that couldn’t be used on its own. < 1344375992 608107 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it isn’t a compound word after all. < 1344376039 209582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, what does any of those long words mean? < 1344376047 891974 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone help me with -täänkin translating postfix? < 1344376083 671259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot get the i in -pulaisvara- to fit into anything translatable :( < 1344376104 407264 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is apulaisvara < 1344376142 908150 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or -apulais- -vara- < 1344376175 657514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it knew apulais < 1344376208 375885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh it manages all of varavaurioraivausvuorovarausratkaisupäällikkö < 1344376219 205448 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the base word for apulais is apulainen < 1344376243 793091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :over < 1344376243 980921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ancestors < 1344376243 981138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : special < 1344376243 981247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Deputy < 1344376244 425813 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't gotten anything out of yliesierikois yet though < 1344376245 542697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vice-mining damage interactive booking solution manager < 1344376257 918626 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Universe is wrzechświat in Polish < 1344376275 871507 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means "all world/worlds" < 1344376285 323732 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "more than a special pre-clearance as assistant vice-lesion interaction booking solution manager" < 1344376297 737279 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after splitting to yli esi erikois apulais varavaurioraivausvuorovarausratkaisupäällikkö) < 1344376323 895419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: um that's the same as my splitting but a different translation < 1344376329 928423 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1344376354 130419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you used spaces instead of newlines < 1344376363 835796 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually "more than a special pre-clearance as assistant vice-lesion interaction booking solution manager" would be "enemmän kuin erikoisapulaisvaravaurioraivausvuorovarausratkaisupäällikkö" < 1344376409 865593 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I did have "Vice-mining damage interactive booking solution manager" as part of most of my splits < 1344376572 452613 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :erikoisapulaisvaravaurioraivausvuorovarausratkaisupäällikkö < 1344376577 956126 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's almost as long as some German words < 1344376601 204813 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELO < 1344376603 288995 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP < 1344376611 574451 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer thinks I'm holding down shift < 1344376625 279349 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1344376639 623747 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Press both shift keys and depress? < 1344376646 856010 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And try toggling capslock twice too < 1344376657 672874 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't help < 1344376668 91096 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you press 2 < 1344376676 715978 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you not get the number < 1344376681 872388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :toggling capslock _once_ might also help in certain cases >:) < 1344376689 600829 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia gave me kumarreksituteskenteleentuvaisehkollaismaisekkuudellisenneskenteluttelemattomammuuksissansakaankopahan ... google translate seems to be entirely stumped < 1344376706 845236 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird I can type in here without it thinking that < 1344376759 730075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm when i have such a problem it usually helps when i go to the irssi session in putty and type something using a genuine shift. < 1344376784 834927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for some reason other windows don't often work as well) < 1344376817 165519 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, "The longest word ever used in Sanskrit literature is: < 1344376817 353503 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :निरन्तरान्धकारिता-दिगन्तर-कन्दलदमन्द-सुधारस-बिन्दु-सान्द्रतर-घनाघन-वृन्द-सन्देहकर-स्यन्दमान-मकरन्द-बिन्दु-बन्धुरतर-माकन्द-तरु-कुल-तल्प-कल्प-मृदुल-सिकता-जाल-जटि < 1344376817 353762 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ल-मूल-तल-मरुवक-मिलदलघु-लघु-लय-कलित-रमणीय-पानीय-शालिका-बालिका-करार-विन्द-गलन्तिका-गलदेला-लवङ्ग-पाटल-घनसार-कस्तूरिकातिसौरभ-मेदुर-लघुतर-मधुर-शीतलतर-सलिलधारा-निराकरिष < 1344376819 652508 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :्णु-तदीय-विमल-विलोचन-मयूख-रेखापसारित-पिपासायास-पथिक-लोकान्" < 1344376827 675796 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1344376858 400029 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if that got split due to length or because I copy-pasted some line breaks < 1344377027 776090 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The longest word in the Swedish language, according to Guinness World Records, is Nordöstersjökustartilleriflygspaningssimulatoranläggningsmaterielunderhållsuppföljningssystemdiskussionsinläggsförberedelsearbeten (130 letters)" < 1344377071 467829 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what does that mean? < 1344377097 655547 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Northern Baltic Sea Coast Artillery Reconnaissance Flight Simulator Facility Equipment Maintenance Follow-Up System Discussion Post Preparation Work(s)." < 1344377108 562772 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1344377181 685006 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344377192 516331 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344377196 753172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8 < 1344377229 66046 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1344377376 531158 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-144-152.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: bed < 1344377446 50628 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: how about that finnish word? < 1344377495 365051 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'm not sure how to translate that one < 1344377618 386058 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well this is one translation for epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellisyydellänsäkäänköhän "Not even with his or her own ability or property of not making other people to make things unorganized, I wonder?" < 1344377628 124561 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dziewięćsetdziewięćdziesiątdziewięćmiliardówdzięwiećsetdziewiędziesiątdziewięćmilionówdziewięćsetdziewięsiątdziewięćtysięcydziewięćsetdziewiędździesięciodziewięcioletni is a valid Polish word < 1344377657 884493 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means 9999999999999 years old < 1344377704 445885 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obvious problem with longest words is that many languages allow (in principle) infinite combinations, leaving a very arbitrary rule to tell "words" from non-words < 1344377787 53660 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language should have a really long word that means something simple < 1344377795 226316 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like aawrfyawiogysoifbysdiofbysoirgyaoiwerfyswfio meaning pie < 1344377800 232478 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1344377807 844010 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because < 1344377850 562615 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a country without pie or any knowledge of the concept of pie, that would make sense < 1344377861 358541 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have no need for an easily accessible word for pie < 1344378086 899893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, they will have no need for a language at all since no-one will live there < 1344378188 957606 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who would live in a country without pie < 1344378281 571230 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed no-one < 1344378573 493224 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.209.99 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1344378983 950437 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could probably deal with it. < 1344378994 41427 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have made myself half-deaf, hopefully temporarily/fixably < 1344379036 960119 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Maintain as much silence as you can < 1344379044 767472 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will help the cells in your ear recover < 1344379065 857149 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recover from either ear wax or being poked? < 1344379090 580511 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I assumed you made yourself deaf with loud noise < 1344379142 526113 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, pretty sure you can't get serious, permanent hearing damage by poking your eardrum. < 1344379160 174056 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With one of those devices that's supposed to help clear out earwax < 1344379165 701873 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not a q-tip) < 1344379187 431200 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Water is good for earwax < 1344379243 619785 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIK clearing your ear canal itself is a bad idea because there's a risk of blockage or something. < 1344379309 380568 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You won't get blockage if you use water < 1344379336 792317 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do it wrong with the q-tips you might just pack up the ear wax deeper in your ear, rather than clearing any out < 1344379359 475313 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, a proper amount of ear wax is required, and removing too much of it will lead to e.g. swimmer's ear < 1344379362 725757 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: does it hurt? < 1344379407 441026 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if these sections have pain sensors but can't hurt to ask < 1344379413 514237 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't an ear wax, it was a ... thing designed for it, a little loop on a little pole < 1344379416 987417 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, no. < 1344379447 103606 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a loop on a pole? sounds like you're using the wrong implements < 1344379455 989842 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, did anything hurt like hell. < 1344379478 982509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no < 1344379509 417669 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What actually *happened*? < 1344379516 124492 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were you just cleaning your ears and then suddenly, deaf? < 1344379532 480963 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, maybe your headphone cord is just glitchy? < 1344379590 526991 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes < 1344379647 697199 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ears are actually self-cleaning though < 1344379681 629720 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not going to say completely deaf < 1344379686 118021 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's just the one ear < 1344379709 835564 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The ear that I've come to consider as good, because this sort of thing rarely happens to it) < 1344379919 607950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your lucky ear, check < 1344379966 687713 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it does happen is it during cleaning? < 1344379980 343232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried shutting your nose and mouth and blowing? < 1344380057 103315 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1344380087 43720 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, normally, no, this time, yes < 1344380089 29547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then swallow and/or yawn afterwards < 1344380112 721426 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, didn't help < 1344380151 871487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1344380184 196564 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiccupped, it felt weird < 1344380219 189675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the TardisT Monad is now official < 1344380234 911991 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do? < 1344380254 672934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has both forward and backward travelling state < 1344380254 860706 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time travels, presumably < 1344380272 202811 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1344380273 207553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell/2012-August/023455.html < 1344380286 326345 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also, wouldn't it be a monad transformer, not a monad? < 1344380294 942281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok < 1344380340 468018 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is just awesome < 1344380402 281662 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you let the backward and forward state be the same thing, I think you get something like monadfix < 1344380448 947235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you need to tie them together at the ends anyway. < 1344380839 156930 :nortti_!~androirc@a91-154-82-50.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1344381684 756693 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the important thing is that dr who fans can expect some new surprises in their google searches < 1344381722 844998 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does dr who have monads as well? < 1344381825 75959 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on second thought i doubt there'll be much google crossover < 1344381943 772087 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is actually a place in morocco named tardist < 1344382088 116391 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on youtube, tardist subscribed to: MIT 5 months ago < 1344382176 292455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to mit to get your tardigrades < 1344382189 106035 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-140-209.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344382305 597126 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1344382321 572938 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-114.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1344382867 513724 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1344382889 27145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome nys < 1344382897 894236 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi :) < 1344382899 686183 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1344382916 376457 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i've been here before < 1344382932 409353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :) < 1344382941 414752 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1344382945 562539 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hi hi < 1344382956 873602 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm learning perl < 1344382968 580624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, perl < 1344382996 60901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite language before i learned haskell < 1344383012 493654 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1344383015 565408 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't managed to wrap my brain around functional stuff yet < 1344383024 927948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurray for line noise < 1344383030 218385 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world needs more of it < 1344383090 794472 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i do learn haskell some day it will probably become my favorite < 1344383129 589278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OBVIOUSLY < 1344383180 920143 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a really logical and consistent language < 1344383195 202194 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just haven't put in the effort to figuring it out yet < 1344383257 639161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix((1:).scanl(+)0) < 1344383260 60861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,109... < 1344383263 562793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1344383277 63410 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whuh < 1344383278 708974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by something error < 1344383297 232289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix((0:).scanl(+)1) < 1344383299 723309 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946... < 1344383555 48379 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-140-209.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1344383559 368738 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-136-110.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344383577 630889 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there certain tasks which would better suited to perl or haskell just by the nature of them? < 1344383588 110407 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is haskell just better at everything? :D < 1344383590 929394 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1344383599 464831 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :interfacing with irssi is better suited to perl < 1344383616 284860 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is modifying and monolithic perl app < 1344383621 996039 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*any < 1344383635 494186 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say that Haskell is not especially suited to metaprogramming, but I have a feeling I'll be yelled at for this < 1344383647 280924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAT < 1344383684 213519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by metaprogramming < 1344383721 513356 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding new features to the language itself, usually < 1344383726 941790 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff like macros, introspection, etc. I know Template Haskell exists, but they're a veneer of annoying-to-use and disrespect towards it. < 1344383829 762885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY THEN. < 1344383844 581698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say that many metaprogramming tasks can be done using regular programming in haskell < 1344383919 54411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dsl's are easy at least, as long as you don't insist on an incompatible syntax < 1344383930 129076 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... which would be why metaprogramming in haskell is rarely used (and presumably difficult and irksome)