< 1348531334 216582 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Important lesson of the day: orbital twiddles are best done near the top of eccentric orbits. < 1348531635 35024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps bonghits will fix your orbits < 1348531906 834080 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good news, though: I did some more calculations and I realised the earlier ones were bullshit! < 1348531938 915382 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gerbils can totally get off the beach if I turn the high-thrust engine back on. < 1348532054 1329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::w < 1348532073 194950 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt they'll be able to get back though. < 1348532114 769377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a small step for a gerbil < 1348532229 442112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1348532230 850345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1348532462 268051 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348532587 654646 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I can make for moon rendezvouses now. < 1348532615 325363 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooooly hell. < 1348532720 127456 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a gravity assist from Laythe I can go from 70 million kilometres from the sun to 600,000. < 1348532745 330286 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately it would entail going through Laythe. < 1348532936 236851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you trying to go to the sun??? < 1348533060 916177 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1348533079 63334 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be stretching my delta-v butchet a bit much. < 1348533177 92551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to go? < 1348533188 519358 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The various moons of a gas giant. < 1348533301 896694 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a convenient gravity assist I'm on a pretty reasonable orbit now. < 1348533310 599815 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll stop here for the night. < 1348533709 69046 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1348535395 308247 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1348535430 634990 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348535693 231672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to fnord the river and my fuckin' oxen died < 1348535754 546355 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnuckin'? < 1348535764 476812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finger nuckin good < 1348535847 811585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSP uses PhysX < 1348535869 414015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you can hook it up to a big Tesla box to have ultra accurate orbital calculations < 1348535932 961053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you use ephemeris for orbit calculation? < 1348535978 367616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you want to go to the moon of a gas giant it is going to be far away, and lack of air, isn't it? < 1348536544 674099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be air < 1348536548 865906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what kerbals breathe anyway < 1348536583 677627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :europa has oxygen atmosphere, but not very much of it < 1348536605 916896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need extra oxygen? < 1348536788 567405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is said to be a lot of oxygen in the ocean there < 1348536921 266626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oxygen is bad for you in large quantities. < 1348536959 729637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of things are poison for you in too large quantities < 1348537003 258425 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-129-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Really? Isn't straight O2 used in medicine sometimes for breathing? < 1348537018 279448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Who said anything about the 2? < 1348537046 114184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Straight O is pretty dangerous. < 1348537050 458472 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-129-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when you say "oxygen" it's generally assumed you are referring to the diatomic gas, not the free ion. < 1348537057 388956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Actually too much O2 is bad for you in some cases. < 1348537057 953489 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-129-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Straight O is *incredibly* dangerous, yes. < 1348537066 724558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example it's a very bad idea to go SCUBA-diving with it. < 1348537122 881126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :free ion! < 1348537148 891370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about Ofast < 1348537158 934628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i breathe funsafe-math < 1348537187 912070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is not air, so probably you cannot breathe funsafe-math. < 1348537215 41927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: So apparently writing GHC patches is really easy. < 1348537217 573081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should do one! < 1348537217 800258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can breathe some things that are not air < 1348537223 686049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as other mixtures including oxygen < 1348537226 354854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some liquids < 1348537234 435438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breathing liquids is nifty. < 1348537235 542906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've thought about it < 1348537238 371143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it's pretty dangerous, though. < 1348537241 838715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ACIO? < 1348537270 461236 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-129-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The danger with breathing liquid is that the too-high viscosity can overwork your diaphram. < 1348537303 409996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: So apparently writing GHC patches is really easy. < 1348537305 675001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : I hear it's pretty dangerous, though. < 1348538599 870228 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i wonder if you can hook it up to a big Tesla box to have ultra accurate orbital calculations < 1348538616 971830 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSP uses patched conics anyway so the orbital simulations are for all intents and purposes exact. < 1348538758 884504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine, accurate non-orbital calculations < 1348538831 928121 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Kerbal's atmosphere does contain oxygen, and their jet engines rely on it to work. < 1348538838 169931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1348538849 449649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the jets do, sure < 1348538854 511186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but presumably they have rockets that don't < 1348538874 786971 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I was speaking wrt atmospheric composition earlier. < 1348538893 608488 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laythe has an oxygen atmosphere too. < 1348538920 75736 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I have to go to bed, like, now. < 1348538922 868909 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1348539068 44715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't tell what group of people today's xkcd is strawman-mocking < 1348539134 243916 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1348539180 409055 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348539336 955268 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1348540616 173038 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia < 1348540628 810795 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1348540628 829362 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1348543625 805094 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1348543712 507374 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348544081 866188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348544609 504529 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-78.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1348545394 594213 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally broke into the Cybertown jail < 1348545505 610689 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that strike you as a bit backwards < 1348545505 919672 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 8 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1348545865 141056 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-jailed persons were not allowed to enter the jail < 1348545877 341765 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you tried, ... not sure what happened. Thrown in jail? < 1348545897 33719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1348546642 326297 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At any rate, I think Cybertown is too dead for anyone to actually complain < 1348546653 246671 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they pulled the Jail from existence a number of years ago < 1348546660 455136 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just using a copy that the Internet Archive grabbed < 1348546665 270884 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 IA so much right now < 1348547801 394055 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know of that video of a guy walking out of his car as it gets hit by another car? < 1348547924 907882 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1348547965 473017 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it someone pulled over by a cop? < 1348548167 851366 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1348548184 656151 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i remember is this guy just opens the door and walks out of the car as it spins < 1348548421 71564 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could try asking on reddit.com/r/tipofmytongue < 1348549307 888254 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the clip from RED? < 1348549383 835000 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYBM8VsxHEg he kind of just opens the door and walks out of the car as it spins < 1348549913 953385 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-78.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1348549939 36544 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no this was a real crash < 1348549949 932690 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think the guy was actually IN the car but < 1348549958 757373 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looked like he was < 1348550036 643907 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah in that clip, i guess the car didn't even get hit. < 1348550041 681533 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i have to go, good luck < 1348550073 624884 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ya sexyboy <3 < 1348550074 533598 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::X < 1348551944 784102 :itidus20!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au NICK :itidus21 < 1348552847 889464 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: you seem to specialize in virtual environments < 1348553234 837633 :nortti!nortti@ie.freebnc.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1348553239 351335 :nortti_!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :nortti < 1348553257 954929 :nortti-!nortti@ie.freebnc.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348554166 333641 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348554212 206327 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, Maven doesn't list any VRML utilities < 1348554812 278489 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, tswett: Boring update. < 1348555377 420840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if JIT spraying is practical on ARM / Thumb or if instruction alignment is too restricted < 1348555456 65427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you can only jump to intended instructions, some JITs might produce a sequence of instructions where jumping into the middle does something interesting < 1348555489 942241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric programming is to exploit development as particle physics is to nuclear weapon design < 1348557196 39152 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: when was the last time someone wrote an exploit based on the developments in the brainfuck world? :| < 1348557477 318586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was the last time someone designed a weapon using neutrinos < 1348558357 546589 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can Selenium see what resources are being downloaded for a web page ala Google Chrome's development tools? < 1348558628 124627 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides that it makes far more sense to ask in #selenium
< 1348563416 102515 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello > 1348563690 982853 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348563692 167019 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1348563693 154810 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1348563693 355709 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric > 1348563695 111437 JOIN :#esoteric > 1348563695 629792 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348563716 380237 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1348563923 438647 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1348563924 92332 :Sanqui!~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky QUIT :*.net *.split < 1348563938 91857 :Sanqui!~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky JOIN :#esoteric < 1348564601 118945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1348564682 162417 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-0-183.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1348564974 162472 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-0-183.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1348565266 267666 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-0-183.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric > 1348565791 730392 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348565793 205618 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1348565794 225563 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric > 1348565795 863875 JOIN :#esoteric > 1348565796 379797 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348567399 788755 :itidus20!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1348567653 148518 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1348569328 206295 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348569704 722122 :itidus20!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au NICK :itidus21 < 1348570122 266480 :ssue!u5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwiyzhpqreopwhlr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1348570122 499134 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1348570140 121931 :ssue!u5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oyllnhbywcyvlexd JOIN :#esoteric < 1348570578 364285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/10do93/errors_vs_bugs_and_the_end_of_stupidity/c6cnb8u?context=3 < 1348570581 777764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : :P < 1348570697 972044 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1348571122 193411 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348572787 482012 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1348573307 538926 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1348573378 922375 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i really want to eat a cake just to show that my digestive system is working < 1348573558 171426 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not really liking this line: "Lazy" and "stupid" and "bad at ____" are terms about the map, not the territory. < 1348573564 356099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a convetion that, just like ^@, ^A, ..., ^_ map to NUL, SOH, ..., US, then ^`, ^a, ..., ^~ could map to the 0x80, 0x81, ..., 0x9e controls? (Okay, the 0x9f is a bit of an issue, due to 0x7f being what it is.) < 1348573636 288919 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki page for map-territory relation starts talking about Jiddu Krishnamurti and Alfred Korzybski < 1348573689 349489 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is only one degree away from theosophists and scientology < 1348573758 76092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: is it the case that you don't like the line because it conflicts with the beliefs you use to keep up your incompetence self-image? < 1348573776 355790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just a cynical hunch, here) < 1348573786 66274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a hypocritical one, too) < 1348573937 427051 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know if alfred korzybski is a good guy or not.. WP says he influenced many people.. william s burroughs who kills and writes about drug addiction, l ron hubbard who boasted that you can get rich by starting a religion, john grinder who started NLP < 1348573952 423927 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on the other hand quite a many great authors < 1348573995 153773 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i actually don't know the details on jiddu < 1348574232 748430 :webchatuser!55497f52@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.73.127.82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348574362 446768 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just hit a nerve about these things.. < 1348574438 462499 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe george orwell would not approve of celandine13's newspeak < 1348574458 729519 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1348574804 399454 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, i know those names for all the wrong reasons < 1348574900 181827 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always react to urls... i always regret it < 1348574914 345037 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets not make too much of this < 1348574927 813544 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like sometimes i rant about patents or about windows 8 < 1348575049 464241 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-0-183.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1348575134 22643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1348575221 166804 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348575244 348202 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1348575324 722994 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it weird that the wiki is esolangs.org but the main page's title is "Esolang, the esoteric programming languages wiki"? < 1348575586 293135 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1348575621 489441 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348575625 936019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it is weird or not, but I keep forgetting whether I need to put in the plural or not. < 1348575909 931379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ajPL -- "such an illegal act like that should stop"! < 1348575920 899057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This Tunde guy sure keeps repeating him(?)self. < 1348575926 642420 :webchatuser!55497f52@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.73.127.82 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1348575996 844160 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348576149 781228 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a language is known to be at most as powerful as a linear bounded automaton, should I put it in that category, or leave it as "unknown computational class"? < 1348576211 284007 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it is known that every program in that language can be translated into a linear bounded automaton, but whether any linear bounded automaton can be translated into this language is unknown (and likely to be false) < 1348576232 885184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's "likely to be false", it perhaps doesn't belong in the category. < 1348576277 492228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least based on a strict reading of the category description. < 1348576315 912919 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1348576951 961373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The linear-bounded automata category is pretty sparse, and I'm a bit dubious about some of those. 2DP for example sounds more finite-state to me. (At least based on the current logic: "-- because of its fixed playfield and data size." Though I do note there doesn't seem to be a limit on the number of heads made by NEWHD.) < 1348576952 742260 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348577034 478749 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a raw nerve seeing anything related to that.. im too mentally unstable to explore such topics. it was only a few months ago that i had to explain to police and my doctor that i thought my brother was doing behavior modification to me < 1348577063 807747 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not intended a well reasoned critique < 1348577076 854244 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1348577595 644501 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't blame him. < 1348577723 266759 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, bitbitjump is also in the linear-bounded automata category, yet it seems to be no more than a bounded storage machine < 1348577975 660814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: I would've mentioned BitBitJump except I couldn't quite bother figuring out what was going on with it. The examples keep talking about infinite memory. < 1348577992 790209 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1348578000 831209 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, basically each instruction contains a "goto" < 1348578015 372109 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this goto is only 8-bit long < 1348578053 638246 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't quite see how we're supposed to access memory with addresses larger than 8-bit < 1348578461 863388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see 8 bits specified anywhere, though. < 1348578502 491041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does have a fixed word length at the beginning, but then that somehow disappears. < 1348578575 599150 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then I have no idea! < 1348578586 966007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the reverse-a-string and brainfuck interpreter examples that mention "unlimited memory" just mean the assembly form programs can run with any word size. Maybe. < 1348578614 248103 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's mostly from interpreting "As in the example above, the interpreter in its assembly form is not bound to the memory limitation of the BitBitJump instruction." < 1348578885 644775 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348579495 21695 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i quite liked bytepusher < 1348579521 482715 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but after a short while i felt like it was really depressing way to program < 1348579626 405847 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats .. .... ill try to contribute later < 1348579853 776221 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1348579860 495034 :kinoSi0!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348579888 185331 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1348580002 659972 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a brilliant idea
< 1348580008 19365 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a specific use case < 1348580011 944322 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's so beautiful < 1348580035 452634 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...although come to think of it, I'm sure it already exists, but not for the reason I have in mind < 1348580057 97298 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web service that redirects requests. First trying at one URL, but if it doesn't exist, another one. < 1348580101 776302 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you were trying to find esokangs.org, but since it doesn't exist, let us redirect you to this nice online dating site" < 1348580222 919107 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite what I had in mind < 1348580256 529509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fixed list of URLs to serve as roots. Client requests http://myservice.example.com/bla.wrl < 1348580277 552761 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First it tries to find it on the Internet Archive at a specific place, latest time. If that doesn't work, then tries each list of web routes < 1348580288 228368 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each root on the list < 1348580544 964956 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does wonder if it may be better to just physically try to gather the files into one place
< 1348580719 921789 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our terms of use specify that users of the Wayback Machine are not to copy data from the collection." < 1348580723 565247 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there goes that idea. < 1348581260 166545 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:0:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348581299 560006 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348581753 946992 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348582182 399691 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1348582185 79073 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memos are a thing? < 1348582219 3321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever gotten one. If you mean freenode memoserv. < 1348582249 735719 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... have a memo from MemoServ < 1348582258 830409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thing is certainly what they are. < 1348582259 847870 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one from you? < 1348582269 714006 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq, yes < 1348582279 804636 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, "yes" is literally what it said < 1348582291 279624 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, not rigorously. < 1348582293 776712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1348582305 206333 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote it back in the days when I was silly and didn't test things much < 1348582574 75036 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it morally acceptable for a server to, upon receiving an HTTP request, itself make some requests before responding? < 1348582581 367573 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly realizes that he might not need to
< 1348582595 198632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, proxy servers are immoral. < 1348582596 960965 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on what HTTP supports < 1348582661 222869 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, I guess I should read about HTTP 300 works < 1348582695 459078 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not 300. < 1348582696 696094 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1348582729 96482 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no response that says to the client "Try these URLs and use whichever works"? < 1348582970 720746 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, liveweb.archive.org doesn't have a coherent robots.txt < 1348582990 307261 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If we confuse them, maybe they'll leave us alone!" < 1348583031 82902 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-129-178.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1348583090 894907 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-0-183.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1348583348 855165 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-0-183.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1348583397 206531 :NihilistDandy!~ND@ip094118.uvm.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1348583519 70571 :JaBoJa!~jaboja@erw90.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348583817 707184 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-0-183.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1348584002 274688 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With OverloadedSyntax and MonadComprehensions < 1348584002 506918 :JaBoJa!~jaboja@erw90.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348584007 45553 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do things end up? < 1348584073 758880 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not overloaded syntax... < 1348584081 24092 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mixing two things up < 1348584084 61313 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I? < 1348584179 222252 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RebindableSyntax < 1348584416 871211 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling I won't even need to use Compojure < 1348584418 317300 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just Ring < 1348584421 165701 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raw Ring < 1348586018 431095 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-0-183.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1348586087 758376 :NihilistDandy!~ND@ip094118.uvm.edu QUIT :Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] < 1348586690 204827 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348586737 725778 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1348586745 182014 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net NICK :atriq < 1348586750 990702 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot to turn off my other computer... < 1348586765 122387 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348586910 555246 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bitch! < 1348586948 160312 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way I can turn off my computer from up here? < 1348586969 683988 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I know my password etc? < 1348587230 36483 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq, you mean, by connecting via ssh? < 1348587238 35656 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I think it's the shutdown command? < 1348587339 853324 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1348587344 898913 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to learn how to use ssh < 1348587381 472096 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh username@hostname < 1348587397 55903 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The computer might not have sshd running though < 1348587436 974110 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1348587443 66082 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't set anything up < 1348587585 207984 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1348587889 211798 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1348588392 771322 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't do that) < 1348588485 441653 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :pumpkin < 1348588490 759834 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1348588571 400815 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1348588642 245810 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "up here"? Different building, or same building? < 1348588648 848017 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ya see being british theres - i'm no stranger to that. i grew up listening to radio. we'd a fuckin' ventriliquist star on the radio. a ventriloquist! i'm sure there was two guys - just showed up. hello archie! how ya doin bobbie? i wonder if they bothered bringing the doll at all. ah fuck it, leave it at home. < 1348588664 925541 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably not as funny as i hoped) < 1348588995 204879 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1348589000 115813 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same building < 1348589006 544814 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just I can't be bothered to go downstairs < 1348589417 431210 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: maybe it's time to build a downstairs riding robot < 1348589453 839016 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would involve getting up < 1348589489 615191 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't grow up with stairs so i can't imagine what sort of games one thinks up to play with stairs < 1348589509 349853 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1348589512 465487 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not many, oddly < 1348589532 136584 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "see if you can get to the top floor without touching the stairs" < 1348589539 600839 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1348589551 143476 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1348589591 284426 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe that growing kids figure out a game to play with everything < 1348589613 529323 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"toss the skull" < 1348589692 538102 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :im serious too of course < 1348589760 374986 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how hard it'd be to set this computer up as a proxy server < 1348589783 375264 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this was an experience < 1348589796 261146 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1348589804 170418 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Writing a simple guess the number game in Clojure with Eclipse+Counterclockwise) < 1348589837 477465 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cardboard roll left over with wrapping paper was always good to have swordfights, balloons made adhoc volleyballs, record players were good at making objects spin around, chairs made of foam could be shunted around like cars, hockey could be played with rubber balls + brooms < 1348589948 812507 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :filling buckets with quamquots and throwing em at each other seemed fun at the time, lawn bowls played on carpet with marbles < 1348589953 764456 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348590118 295553 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stacking cushions up over a chair and trying to leap over it, trying to get around on the furniture without touching the floor, i never personally did the thing with two tins joined by a wire as a makeshift radio, but there is paper planes too < 1348590124 911337 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: lambdabot went missing for some time yesterday night, so I left you a /ms message < 1348590213 103758 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can read them with "/ms read 0" or something < 1348590261 274951 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hrm, that should be a 1, actually) < 1348590318 568960 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently 0 only works if you have no messages (in which case it tells you that you have no messages); if you do have messages, it tells you 0 is an invalid index number < 1348590359 502477 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348590375 968627 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a feeling that learning to "pretend the floor is lava" is something we are genetically compelled to try < 1348590414 454503 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps some dark chapter of human history < 1348590430 588277 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :best... left... forgotten... < 1348590434 765921 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think there is a collective memory stuck in our unconscious mind, reminiscent of a time where the flood actually was lava? < 1348590538 258683 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe we're all potential thieves or spies, trained to avoid motion sensors on the ground. < 1348590559 488560 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :`specialeffect lightning and dreariness < 1348590569 707530 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: specialeffect: not found < 1348590614 992904 :nooga!~nooga@91.202.103.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348590640 28290 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1348590658 563612 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: something like that. i like your wording < 1348590696 809032 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have said "a time when" I guess... stupid french language with no distinction between time and space < 1348590905 232094 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, I saw it < 1348590942 969190 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also.. for what it's worth i think quite a bit of super mario brothers gameplay boils down to "pretend the floor is " < 1348591012 974102 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the cleverness was in abstracting that < 1348591215 866907 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1348591246 70325 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1348591336 709252 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348591428 284874 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348591448 7411 :nooga!~nooga@91.202.103.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1348591563 23105 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only started playing spuer mario bros quite recently... < 1348591587 536350 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, it's actually a fan-reprogrammed version of super mario bros where mario carries a portal gun...) < 1348591642 752737 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mariO < 1348591686 174797 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have the minus world? < 1348591722 261521 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1348592317 899231 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:5139:ee4a:8cc4:765d JOIN :#esoteric < 1348592329 961948 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:5139:ee4a:8cc4:765d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348592373 935999 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:5139:ee4a:8cc4:765d JOIN :#esoteric < 1348592687 931299 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:5139:ee4a:8cc4:765d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348592688 126184 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348593384 820827 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: Have you played the portal-inspired maps, or just the original ones? < 1348593405 4411 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: TBH, the portal gun adds nothing whatsoever to the original game, but the portal-like game with Mario physics is fun. < 1348593442 425347 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :buftux < 1348593458 394554 :buftux!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1348593595 844190 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1348594241 723212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, /r/programming is running a big ad soliciting donations for http://www.girlswhocode.com/ < 1348594244 717527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cool < 1348594262 377336 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348594289 402448 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1348595052 263885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl (+) 0 $ iterate (*20) 1 < 1348595053 260887 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,21,421,8421,168421,3368421,67368421,1347368421,26947368421,53894736842... < 1348595819 727808 :nooga!~nooga@91.202.103.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348595823 166293 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348595887 869873 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-24-143.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1348595898 714447 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-24-143.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1348595950 768895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1348596194 710266 :nooga!~nooga@91.202.103.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1348597374 274962 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1348598756 145810 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-24-143.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1348598855 973077 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:5139:ee4a:8cc4:765d JOIN :#esoteric < 1348598894 628346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'the USSD code to factory data reset a Galaxy S3 is *2767*3855# can be triggered from browser like this: ' < 1348598941 911249 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348598993 342150 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348599017 235722 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, can you recommend a gateway hat < 1348599062 39053 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean “gateway” in the sense of gateway drug? < 1348599067 59949 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1348599070 356299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the idea of putting this in a QR code < 1348599072 785972 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or gateway anime. < 1348599078 72590 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as in hat shaped like a gate < 1348599148 419869 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been recommended that I start wearing hats < 1348599195 80487 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: http://www.villagehatshop.com/jaxon_wool_pork_pie.html < 1348599225 617188 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which… they only seem to have in medium, so unless you're a size medium, ignore that :) < 1348599234 512545 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... < 1348599239 731621 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have no idea what hat size I am < 1348599245 657179 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very new to this < 1348599274 810020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/2012/09/heisenberg_660.jpg < 1348599448 695603 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Well, figure that out first. < 1348599471 205146 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348599557 155410 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: http://www.villagehatshop.com/jaxon_hats_c-crown_stingy-brim_fedoras_pinstripe.html < 1348599751 855983 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fedora eventually became a gilligan < 1348599986 110874 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-12.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1348600623 85421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348601498 942878 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348601674 263220 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348601908 461658 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-190-28.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348603083 270231 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-190-28.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1348603090 923640 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-180-199.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348603526 672786 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348604274 761095 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-180-199.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1348604275 398912 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-132-98.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348605087 610698 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1348605130 654498 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yes, I've played the portal inspired ones < 1348605140 358530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1348605147 123812 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were kinda fun, but sometimes a little repetitive < 1348605197 583310 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also tried the other maps (I think players made them), they were fun as well but usually redundant - that is, there is an "obvious way" you're supposed to do it, but you can often find shortcuts < 1348605198 68967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Kinda fun, but sometimes a little repetitive | 我能吞下粘土而不伤身体。| Taneb is atriq, just so you know | My other Taneb is a dead racehorse | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1348605213 903677 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Oerjan < 1348605224 881843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello arc_koen < 1348605227 26495 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that japanese stuff? < 1348605248 914187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it meant something with clay < 1348605255 274662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was already in the topic < 1348605255 764563 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok < 1348605270 73781 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't. Well, mostly not" or something < 1348605275 12931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it was chinese < 1348605283 981346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no, it wasn't that < 1348605303 374835 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: what's the minus world? I had never played before so I wouldn't know < 1348605308 565898 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-132-98.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's definitely not Japanese. < 1348605327 373105 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the last character looks japanese < 1348605340 404654 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the middle stuff don't, though < 1348605343 383898 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-132-98.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Simplified Chinese. < 1348605347 99614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate gave a coherent result for chinese as i recall < 1348605393 26313 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-132-98.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The shinjitai of 體, 体 is also the Simplified of 體. < 1348605407 395590 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's that "wrapping area" I accessed by accident from world 4, that leads to worlds 6, 7 and 8 via green pipes < 1348605422 368395 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: 1-2 has warping area too < 1348605425 227419 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-12.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1348605435 966010 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :made the game kind of boring though... now I feel like I could just complete world 8 without going through the remaining three < 1348605436 546331 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you go through the wall instead of properly, and go into the pipe before the screen scrolls completely < 1348605442 344549 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You end up in a glitched out world instead < 1348605449 994552 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That loops forever < 1348605450 966631 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1348605465 878671 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the 4th-levels did loop forever < 1348605494 882681 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, there was a repetitive sequence of tiles that repeated forever, until you had passed it "the right way" < 1348605519 480196 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Kinda fun, but sometimes a little repetitive | No hablo chino. | Taneb is atriq, just so you know | My other Taneb is a dead racehorse | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1348605526 85772 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went through ten or so times through it the easy way before I tried the other -_- < 1348605603 231906 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the portal guns adds nothing in the original maps, but can be used to "cheat" - for instance the first time I did that underwater level, I hadn't realized I could swim, so I had to climb all the walls using portals < 1348605627 906973 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which was very hazardous with all the jellyfishes around) < 1348605989 538052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:26:15: i have a feeling that learning to "pretend the floor is lava" is something we are genetically compelled to try < 1348605992 620484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:26:54: perhaps some dark chapter of human history < 1348605998 645664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when we lived in the trees, i presume < 1348606017 761983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_actual_ lava wouldn't work for this. < 1348606035 403543 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The floor is full of tigers and stuff" < 1348606050 410729 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the air near lava is hot too < 1348606058 346812 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also heat radiation < 1348606064 870606 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lava was just an absurd lemma for dangerous below < 1348606071 384962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConvectionSchmonvection if you have plenty of time < 1348606082 312898 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretended lava works so much better than actual lava! < 1348606085 735453 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not sure if that is correct use of lemma < 1348606090 42664 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why people near lava wear those reflective suits < 1348606118 678100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: i'm pretty sure it's not the usual use < 1348606129 96526 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in one of the canary islands, the population had to hide from pirates inside a lava tunnel < 1348606132 800844 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok. heh < 1348606144 530311 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(older, cold lava, of course) < 1348606296 946553 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been on Tenerife < 1348606302 886328 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Tenerife has lava tunnels? < 1348606309 215677 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it does < 1348607059 822961 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :dog < 1348607121 41531 :dog!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1348607124 526089 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :dog < 1348608275 731422 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-99-89-197.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: goodnight < 1348608296 896087 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: so how do I go to this 1-2 wrapping world? < 1348608399 24634 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG_xxm-HSRY < 1348608489 428773 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok < 1348608499 932627 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need the glitch to go to it < 1348608523 966461 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I remember this "you can't go back" thingy, but I think it doesn't exist any longer on the current version of mar0 < 1348608729 593557 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I can see the world after the wall < 1348608735 640962 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know how to get through to it < 1348608795 614438 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhoho < 1348608801 314373 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :used the portals to climb to the ceiling < 1348608804 401557 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm n the warp zone! < 1348608821 90655 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now < 1348609200 971516 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, finite state automaton < 1348609224 285382 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it can "access" a memory as large as its input < 1348609781 734974 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, I don't really know what a transition graph exactly is, but wouldn't that mean that Bipoint is equivalent to FSAs? < 1348610135 819274 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey if I want to implement a deque, is it more usual to call its functions push_front, push_back, pop_front, pop_back, etc., or push_front, push_rear, pop_front, pop_rear, etc.? < 1348610297 204998 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1348610318 735129 :dog!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1348610406 388504 :dog!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348610531 518971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: it's equivalent to FSA as far as recognizing input is concerned, although obviously not as far as giving output < 1348610654 215479 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it's been so long I had forgotten automata had input < 1348610658 114265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i think the output-giving FSAs are not as often teached as the recognizing ones (the former are called transducers, the latter are what is equivalent to regular expressions) < 1348610718 70692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*taught < 1348610789 124861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just learned from wikipedia that it's undecidable whether two FS tranducers are equivalent... < 1348610811 185633 :dog!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1348611250 54352 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION empties a truckload of transducers into the esolang wiki.
< 1348611922 507877 :dog!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348611950 28817 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1348611963 151252 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:0:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348611984 789319 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348612942 303019 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm I thought Kipple had no popping mechanism < 1348612967 830739 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance I thought that "a>b" would push a copy of the topmost element of a onto b < 1348612995 206806 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's what the description seemed to imply < 1348612998 371419 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "Input is pushed onto stack i before the program is executed" < 1348613018 627394 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems to imply that reading a character would pop it < 1348613038 280703 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otherwise only the last character inputted can be read) < 1348613325 369205 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnight < 1348613329 682901 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 QUIT :Quit: that's dr. turing to you, punk < 1348613766 868451 :dog!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT : < 1348614203 239463 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348614209 317009 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Client Quit < 1348614230 219917 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348614531 204561 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348614532 105666 :ssue!u5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oyllnhbywcyvlexd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348614580 789996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Arc_Koen Arguably (but certainly also counterarguably) the fact that the things are called stacks sort of mildly implies that the act of reading involves popping a value. (And the cat example only makes sense that way.) < 1348614580 985069 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1348614631 442282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one, two, three, argue! < 1348614666 887204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arg, arg. < 1348614710 398745 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348614750 206593 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"arguably" is a nice word ... is there anything that can't be argued about? < 1348614810 519922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no arguing about taste, I've heard. < 1348614846 712342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree! < 1348614877 935125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And clearly all sentences that involve "clearly" are unarguable. < 1348614887 240594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1348614895 236923 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously. < 1348614919 994018 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1348614922 371566 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturalismo. < 1348614932 482336 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's trivial. < 1348614948 949980 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And because all sentences using the word “clearly” are unarguable, clearly eugenics is pretty great, right guys? < 1348614967 988595 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably, yes. < 1348614973 740033 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even has good (eu-) in the name < 1348614991 281141 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was bad it would be called malgenics or something < 1348615008 882016 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods sagely.
< 1348615150 588959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: dysgenics, duh < 1348615165 281157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't mix your greek and latin < 1348615258 663025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that also means all EU projects/directives/legislation/bureaucracy/etc. are good things. < 1348615786 664300 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Please tell me that somewhere, someone, somehow, for some reason, has created the portmanteau “EU-genics” < 1348615852 398803 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did find http://philosophers-stone.co.uk/wordpress/2011/02/nazi-eu-genics-sterilisation-scalpels-rolled-out-in-uk/ < 1348615864 65749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Danish grounded outlet: happiest electric outlet? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/107-2-D1_-_Danish_electrical_plugs_-_Studio_2011.jpg/237px-107-2-D1_-_Danish_electrical_plugs_-_Studio_2011.jpg (middle) < 1348615906 872793 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:5139:ee4a:8cc4:765d QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1348616187 941830 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:98e0:5c32:3aa6:7f5a JOIN :#esoteric < 1348616688 776776 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Sleeptime < 1348616941 16071 :ssue!u5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-apisyymxityrbyab JOIN :#esoteric