< 1349223073 505413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349223889 522398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1349224464 315534 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349224581 378643 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349225112 339607 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349225255 213756 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349225747 422413 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349226674 120033 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a good night's slep < 1349226778 700994 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keccak is not appropriate for password hashing, right? < 1349226787 476546 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fast, and good password hashing is slow? < 1349226800 396214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not on its own. < 1349226807 82604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should run your passwords through something like PBKDF2 < 1349226816 455189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably PBKDF2-SHA3 is fine. < 1349226820 60291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a fancy way of saying "iterate the hash many times" < 1349226829 129249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But so is bcrypt etc. < 1349226836 498377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and probably do other things, but I don't know if those are important for uses other than deriving crypto keys) < 1349226839 58088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: PBKDF2 also xors the iterations together, at least. < 1349226839 252521 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PBKDF2? < 1349226845 818030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, PBKDF2 < 1349226880 432368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can read about PBKDF2 in a multimedia hypertext encyclopedia using a global network of packet-switched communications < 1349226887 471345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :food, bbl < 1349227222 47611 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O someone submitted a hash algorithm to the contest maliciously? < 1349227265 396030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I should hope so. < 1349227276 985351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise how can you tell if the process is doing its job? < 1349227293 911407 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349227316 923886 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, someone just modified one of the entries to be malicious, as a proof of concept I guess < 1349227318 51335 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict < 1349227536 176999 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349227552 880477 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349227804 848239 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1349227827 930770 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "E581A6F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E3EBF2" `div` 2 < 1349227828 913183 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 26 < 1349228480 153197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's funny < 1349228858 87504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also funny: one of the SHA-3 competitors has already seen widespread real world use < 1349228868 114661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MD6 was used by the Conficker worm < 1349228878 910199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you enter one of those competitions do you get mysterious advice from the NSA, a la DES? < 1349228882 592493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh john tromp also won the ioccc < 1349228974 562431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird i thought he was on the esolang wiki somewhere, but no < 1349229876 56282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1349231755 305774 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-31-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, screwed up my *printing* routine. XD < 1349231779 346827 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-31-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 < 1349231833 378716 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349231872 422804 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-31-176.clsp.qwest.net TOPIC #esoteric :I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1349232028 909581 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2" `div` 2 < 1349232029 875555 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 28 < 1349232113 62995 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-31-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, SHA3-224. < 1349232231 808633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showIntAtBase 2 ("01"!!) (28*8) "" < 1349232232 782902 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "11100000" < 1349232490 360958 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1349233422 524657 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349233472 61685 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349234955 903213 :hagb4rd!~perdito@212.23.103.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349235111 190405 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1349235570 128983 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349237617 573182 :hagb4rd!~perdito@212.23.103.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is such a pretty place to be, i've just stumbled upon it..lovely 8bit canvas demo -> http://www.effectgames.com/demos/canvascycle/ < 1349239477 919969 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349239888 943671 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349240660 36534 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349241188 53974 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349242757 824997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWToUATLGzs < 1349243768 919039 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349245539 422488 :const!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1349247815 640206 :hagb4rd!~perdito@212.23.103.66 QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1349247876 972253 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@91.234.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349248995 113418 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349249456 685114 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-14-184-160.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1349249631 56779 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349250010 241414 :barts!~barts@p57AEA855.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am working on a piece of hardware which can take any wave and output an analog sync clock < 1349250018 682072 :barts!~barts@p57AEA855.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sine-like wave < 1349250024 97605 :barts!~barts@p57AEA855.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me i wanted to try a metronome < 1349250145 674164 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349250172 997472 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1349250492 643979 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1349250618 337852 :barts!~barts@p57AEA855.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the video just loaded < 1349250633 167295 :barts!~barts@p57AEA855.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the metronomes become synchronized because of a phenomenon called soft syncing < 1349250686 474550 :barts!~barts@p57AEA855.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens because they are all coupled in angular momentum < 1349250743 489030 :barts!~barts@p57AEA855.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the whole swivel is a single energy pool which tries to maximize its use of that energy < 1349251837 958445 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349253870 275185 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1349254882 207525 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349256059 35443 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349257316 716887 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349257769 945771 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349257771 472827 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Client Quit < 1349258394 831602 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349259008 611052 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349259034 210386 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1349259057 648527 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349259075 129006 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heeello < 1349259534 4164 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349259630 56081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heel-o. < 1349260683 210924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349261388 918374 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349262664 912930 :barts!~barts@p57AEA855.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349262783 266493 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349263591 208436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349264311 380137 :yours_truly!~yours@64.229.2.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349264432 574138 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1349264449 763895 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349264762 653652 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349265334 808300 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1349265529 976524 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349265564 148946 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349265813 847131 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-14-184-160.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1349267383 859613 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“House of Marley Positive Vibration Rasta”, “color: rasta” http://www.thomann.de/fi/house_of_marley_positive_vibration_rasta.htm < 1349267792 445360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: According to fcolor, #a37f58 is the color of "rasta" after 10 images (190 to go). < 1349267854 285315 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some of these results are a bit nonrelevant-looking.) < 1349267912 510671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.ics.aalto.fi/htkallas/rasta.png and so it goes. < 1349267948 297883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I conclude that it mostly means something vaguely brownish. < 1349267959 208870 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349268344 687206 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-223-46.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1349268356 769477 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-175-189.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1349269071 935559 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-116-150.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349269256 22385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349270418 938509 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~fkarlsso/genkau2.html < 1349270520 869222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This page has been glanced at by [Counter datafile "/usr/local/etc/Counter/data/sample3.dat" must be created first!] visitors external to our department" < 1349270573 733116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Page view counters, where have they all gone? < 1349270815 42688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349271097 633247 :itidus20!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1349271330 201588 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1349271336 593235 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1349271337 488583 :itidus20!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au NICK :itidus21 < 1349271439 798048 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey quintopia maybe you can help me < 1349271493 965647 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to understnad the hello world program in http://esolangs.org/wiki/Platts < 1349271541 408475 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) what are the two zeroes in the initial string for? < 1349271588 259813 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) when B produces Hello World!, the output mode is off, so why is it printed? < 1349271624 223351 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are every ever produced strings printed everytime that a string is produce while the output mode is on? < 1349271688 948018 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the production rules were A> B|Hello World! H>J J|K K! for instance, the Hello World would be printed twice? < 1349271703 408824 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(once by H>J and once by J|K) < 1349271770 511456 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349271797 737520 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1349271825 749130 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For 2), isn't output mode off at first, and toggled on by the "A>" production, leaving it on for "B|Hello World!"? < 1349271856 554612 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhh right < 1349271860 536196 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't considered that < 1349271961 258217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A0B0 -[toggle output mode on]-> 0B0 -[implicit empty string]> B0 -[output "Hello World!"]-> Hello World! -[toggle output mode off]-> Kello World! -[halt], I guess. < 1349271986 304407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, without forgetting the latter 0. < 1349272003 773113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they mean something else, I'unno. < 1349272144 468228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, hm, right; if it's a 2-tag system, those 0s get deleted too. < 1349272227 902556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1349272312 171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A0B0 -[toggle output mode on]-> B0 -[output "Hello World!"]-> Hello World! -[toggle output mode off]-> llo World!K -[implicit empty-string rules]-> K -[halt], in that case. < 1349272320 677174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I read it as just rewriting at first.) < 1349273058 482518 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1349273127 617805 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I don't think it's string-rewriting < 1349273144 487045 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think A produces empty string and toggle output mode on < 1349273151 321707 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 produces empty string < 1349273162 364736 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B produces Hello World!, which is printed < 1349273180 10423 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hum and then I don't know if it's 0's turn or H's turn < 1349273194 647360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: It's a 2-tag system, it says so right up there. < 1349273201 407849 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any symbols not explicitly assigned production rules in the program listing are implicitly assigned a production of the empty string. < 1349273228 414313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://esolangs.org/wiki/Tag_system -- they always delete m (in this case, 2) symbols from the left, and append the production to the right. < 1349273232 151499 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm ok < 1349273293 95384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice at first, since I just went "oh, production rules". < 1349273618 854586 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349274596 85183 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349274729 963894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Arc_Koen < 1349275222 668662 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@27.115.83.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349275229 616446 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@27.115.83.129 PART :#esoteric < 1349275317 48316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie's second production sequence is correct < 1349275318 431692 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1349275347 243907 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep apparently the issue was just that I didn't know what a tag was < 1349275363 19736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | God made the natural numbers; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | < 1349275367 457940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | God made the natural numbers; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1349275672 834101 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1349276630 494362 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349276714 743969 :yours_truly!~yours@64.229.2.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1349277363 561404 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@27.115.82.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349277418 169201 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@27.115.82.183 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349277449 198120 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@27.115.82.182 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349277463 786728 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@27.115.82.182 PART :#esoteric < 1349277487 687579 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349277700 697618 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1349278196 981643 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1349278220 905259 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349278235 106497 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 PART :#esoteric < 1349278292 860785 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1349278590 284800 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349278894 430215 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1349278941 901827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349279704 505938 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349280185 168298 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1349280684 854977 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1349281156 358837 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349281308 972944 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1349282162 655733 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349282588 280095 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1349282590 972505 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rats (1984) - Trailer http://youtu.be/2zbl4_xkORc < 1349282828 73602 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-121.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1349283436 372211 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349283810 207496 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1349283925 193237 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1349284466 557220 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1349284473 967328 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349284514 16741 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@91.234.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349284823 734010 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349285238 895039 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349285551 931319 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349285924 776025 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349286195 233133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349286668 251956 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goddammit haskell < 1349286691 469726 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghci thinks 25*0.036 is 0.8999999999999999 < 1349286696 503670 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::: CReal < 1349286729 51422 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::: Rational < 1349286749 159242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating-point numbers are the devil. < 1349286782 235866 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing wrong with floating-point numbers (except for denormals and NaN) as long as you use them appropriately. < 1349286785 431015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg irb thinks the same thing. < 1349286791 249607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Python! < 1349286801 569326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: *Ahem*. Floating point *values*. < 1349286829 491618 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :on windows calculator, 0.8999999999999999 / 0.36 = 2.4999999999999997222222222222222 < 1349286847 828558 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame haskell for using an inexact default representation of fractional values < 1349286853 834729 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (25*0.036 :: CReal, 25*0.036 :: Rational) < 1349286854 895332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0.9,9 % 10) < 1349286883 487505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runc int main(void) { printf("%.20f", 25*0.036); } < 1349286884 73344 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is CReal in < 1349286885 268020 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :freefull: What should pi be in the exact representation of fractional values? < 1349286888 838632 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.89999999999999991118 < 1349286889 642425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rational is nicer than CReal if you're just talking about rationals. < 1349286901 271450 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: An infinite value of course < 1349286919 341211 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinite in length I mean < 1349286953 870445 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.9 is definitely representable accurately without too much data though =P < 1349286968 624807 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in base-10 < 1349286990 104151 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any base, using the right representation < 1349287024 292568 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :In binary you can say 1001/1010 < 1349287050 943912 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, accurate representation of 0.9 < 1349287061 175619 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::: Rational < 1349287087 886930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi is representable using only two bytes of data. < 1349287088 880025 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny that you're discussing this in here. < 1349287098 170429 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: In base pi =P < 1349287101 806054 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My latest FB post: The worst part of floating point math is not the fact that 0.1 + 0.2 yields 0.30000000000000004, but trying to explain to people why their language is horribly broken if 0.1 + 0.2 does NOT yield 0.30000000000000004. < 1349287106 420269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Base English. < 1349287129 688773 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349287135 161940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> toRational (25*0.036 :: Double) < 1349287136 135587 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2026619832316723 % 2251799813685248 < 1349287206 295063 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you "cast" the end result to Rational, and you don't put :: Double in anywhere or anything similar, will the entire computation be done using rationals? < 1349287239 579178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a cast. < 1349287245 731629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes. < 1349287286 554584 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I put it in quotes < 1349287287 564328 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1349287296 520999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type 0.036 < 1349287297 524296 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t. (Fractional t) => t < 1349287312 691195 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rational is a member of Fractional, right? < 1349287322 321521 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever the term is < 1349287337 709040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell doesn't work that way, FreeFull. < 1349287362 208089 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me more then < 1349287495 390829 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349287552 146629 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349287604 303981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rational is Ratio Integer, and there is an instance (Num (Ratio a), Integral a) => Fractional (Ratio a), which is maybe an answer, of sorts. But maybe a real Haskeller will explain it all. < 1349287610 871425 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1349287632 490549 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> toRational (pi :: Double) < 1349287633 550218 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 884279719003555 % 281474976710656 < 1349287635 371175 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349287643 36363 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> toRational (exp 1 :: Double) < 1349287644 123338 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6121026514868073 % 2251799813685248 < 1349287676 862710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: That should show all those irrational-pi people. < 1349287770 726558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> toRational (pi :: CReal) < 1349287771 915521 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: CReal.toRational < 1349287774 451699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1349287953 204820 :hagb4rd!~perdito@212.23.103.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349287961 334382 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1349288043 54394 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if socket.io is/should be a sufficient motivation to use Node.js even if I don't want to use Javascript server-side
< 1349288072 556938 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh there exists socket.io for other languages < 1349288104 994814 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349288114 449149 :hagb4rd!~perdito@212.23.103.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one script to rule them all < 1349288289 827271 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Oh, but you DO want to use JavaScript server-side. < 1349288861 401246 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you? < 1349289134 964155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.nelhage.com/2012/03/why-node-js-is-cool/ (it's not about performance) < 1349289172 357004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not about javascript either < 1349289218 879566 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it about doing cooperative multitasking by hand? < 1349289234 327794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of but not really < 1349289239 370286 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha X-D < 1349289290 993333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's it all about, really, in the end? < 1349289291 226727 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1349289291 577167 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i need this terminal for something else in mind < 1349289312 819075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Okay, be that way. I didn't want an answer anyway. < 1349289313 533785 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what now? :) ( of course that ignores the fact that i have < 1349289336 227621 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "a sweet spot in terms of what developers are willing to put up with" < 1349289386 809416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a framework which more or less forces you to write network libraries in a composable way < 1349289387 634803 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That's the best description of anything I have ever heard. < 1349289392 334754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is something people traditionally do poorly < 1349289414 20341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not the theoretically best way of doing so, but it's a thing that exists now that a lot of people use < 1349289438 91817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the tl;dr of that article < 1349289697 730465 :hagb4rd!~perdito@212.23.103.83 QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1349290064 973643 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a tl;dr language? < 1349290294 350427 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr: 99 bottles of beer < 1349290524 547623 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Yes, it's called C++. < 1349290548 565871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO-9899 bottles of beer < 1349290603 918300 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :steal_underpants(); [...] return profit; < 1349290631 204603 :hagb4rd!~perdito@212.23.103.82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349290682 27904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :An ISO 9001 bottle of beer is quality-managed. < 1349290710 802071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.savingadvice.com/images/blog/generic-beer.jpg < 1349290759 190862 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :An ISO 8601 bottle of beer has a standardised date format. < 1349290776 13489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ISO 3103 bottle of beer is actually tea < 1349290790 937992 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the image accompanying ISO 9000#Contents of ISO 9001 is "ISO 9001 certification of a fish wholesaler in Tsukiji" http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/ISO_9001_in_Tsukiji.jpg/609px-ISO_9001_in_Tsukiji.jpg < 1349290793 579083 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ISO describes the ISO? < 1349290796 798631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so relevant. < 1349290807 258240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO is also a demogroup. < 1349290837 116536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ISO 8128-2:1993: Apple juice, apple juice concentrates and drinks containing apple juice -- Determination of patulin content -- Part 2: Method using thin-layer chromatography" < 1349290941 966863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?commid=47918&published=on < 1349291010 783681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or at least kind of a group.) < 1349291120 507903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you purchase a copy of ISO 8128-2 already? < 1349291145 166519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With that sort of a name, I'm sure it's flying off the shelves. < 1349291257 706049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have any CHF :/ < 1349291281 247378 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is patulin < 1349291298 893992 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's a toxin produced by moulds < 1349291307 251408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the swiss see a pretty woman they say ein, zwei, drei and try to push her down some ice < 1349291353 509950 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't get it < 1349291415 594196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a quote from cool runnings < 1349291448 468939 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cool runnings < 1349291620 646751 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1349291644 777954 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349293658 345746 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349294022 279389 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1349294022 474617 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1349294029 427259 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1349294029 621849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1349294041 730810 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1349294041 962945 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1349295265 994339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1349295457 361507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I conclude that it mostly means something vaguely brownish. <-- THAT'S RACIST! < 1349295469 434560 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My new tattoo http://i.imgur.com/HH89J.jpg < 1349295486 650335 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dishouner"? < 1349295506 905272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whoosh"? < 1349295522 933397 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"is there a joke I'm missing" < 1349295532 105248 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brownish" < 1349295543 338687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's not racist when it's determined by an impartial algorithm. < 1349295562 450269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's what the segregationists said! < 1349295826 177641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 25 * 0.036 < 1349295827 217394 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.8999999999999999 < 1349295837 550642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.9 < 1349295838 552168 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.9 < 1349295897 205730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.9 - 25 * 0.036 < 1349295898 222827 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.1102230246251565e-16 < 1349295932 590626 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((25*0.001)*36, 25*(0.001*36)) < 1349295933 633869 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0.9,0.9000000000000001) < 1349295959 759084 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((25*0.001)*36, 25*(0.001*36), 25*(36*0.001)) < 1349295960 837239 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0.9,0.9000000000000001,0.9000000000000001) < 1349295968 85113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote My latest FB post: The worst part of floating point math is not the fact that 0.1 + 0.2 yields 0.30000000000000004, but trying to explain to people why their language is horribly broken if 0.1 + 0.2 does NOT yield 0.30000000000000004. < 1349295971 512460 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :866) My latest FB post: The worst part of floating point math is not the fact that 0.1 + 0.2 yields 0.30000000000000004, but trying to explain to people why their language is horribly broken if 0.1 + 0.2 does NOT yield 0.30000000000000004. < 1349295981 498660 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((25*0.001)*36, 25*(0.001*36), 25*(36/1000)) < 1349295982 553230 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0.9,0.9000000000000001,0.8999999999999999) < 1349295992 346870 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-121.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1349295993 414891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Posted Using FB2IRC Technology® < 1349296002 835046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.1 + 0.2 < 1349296003 852667 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.30000000000000004 < 1349296013 988491 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.1 + 0.2 :: Float < 1349296015 174442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.3 < 1349296021 994455 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.1 + 0.2 :: Rational < 1349296023 66017 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 % 10 < 1349296035 25880 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.1 + 0.2 :: Quadrupal < 1349296036 73746 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: type constructor or class `Quadrupal' < 1349296040 573359 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.1 + 0.2 :: Quadruple < 1349296041 566800 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: type constructor or class `Quadruple' < 1349296043 591824 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1349296044 524398 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( < 1349296050 753114 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My frown slipped < 1349296059 751269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's quadruple < 1349296076 171860 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-precision_floating-point_format < 1349296080 983890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1349296101 596879 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a thing which exists < 1349296157 732155 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pi :: Rational < 1349296158 239961 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadruped-precision < 1349296158 724519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Float.Floating GHC.Real.Rational) < 1349296158 918595 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a us... < 1349296168 68485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you might be misspelling Quaternion (not that i think lambdabot has that) < 1349296175 708847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 :: Quaternion < 1349296176 685272 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: type constructor or class `Quaternion' < 1349296177 718206 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-116-150.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349296181 651854 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pi :: CReal < 1349296182 641612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841972 < 1349296199 526484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t showCReal < 1349296200 545412 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Int -> CReal -> String < 1349296209 261025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showCReal 100 pi < 1349296210 370818 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406... < 1349296248 518938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showCReal 0 pi < 1349296249 534156 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "3" < 1349296256 771150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showCReal (-1) pi < 1349296257 795232 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*Exception: Negative exponent < 1349296267 611170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping for an unlimited option < 1349296287 8504 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> show CReal 0 pi < 1349296288 1496 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `CReal' < 1349296290 186116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showCReal 1000000000 pi < 1349296292 149897 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showCReal 0 pi < 1349296293 79035 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "3" < 1349296295 308589 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1349296295 502869 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1349296305 359360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showCReal 1000000000 pi < 1349296306 811039 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHICH IS WHICH < 1349296310 485838 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1349296310 680572 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1349296315 413602 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1349296322 934918 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :showCereal < 1349296367 61445 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For just $280000 I'll be able to read a webcomic offline when I'm 20! < 1349296379 377042 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1349296411 47986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bargain! < 1349296434 357016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are zimbabwean dollars, right? < 1349296450 481525 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, US < 1349296460 545654 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've organized a kickstarter to help me reach it < 1349296501 801227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> toRational (25*0.036) < 1349296503 528511 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2026619832316723 % 2251799813685248 < 1349296516 240037 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14293468/homestuck-adventure-game < 1349296518 16647 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There it is < 1349296521 542863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: sounds legit < 1349296529 218416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, before you linked it. < 1349296536 702678 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1349296795 825765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : If you "cast" the end result to Rational, and you don't put :: Double in anywhere or anything similar, will the entire computation be done using rationals? <-- that means no, btw < 1349296829 557886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because toRational takes a Fractional as argument, which _still_ defaults to Double. < 1349296846 162114 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wasn't using toRational < 1349296849 608333 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using :: Rational < 1349296866 172490 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yo, the output is Rational" < 1349296866 746389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was fizzie who did that. < 1349296925 667213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t toRational < 1349296926 684766 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Real a) => a -> Rational < 1349296934 285078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :make that Real, not Fractional < 1349296938 437093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t realToFrac < 1349296939 435935 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b. (Real a, Fractional b) => a -> b < 1349296939 630824 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fromRational < 1349296940 435552 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Fractional a) => Rational -> a < 1349297025 78068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :realToFrac combines both toRational and fromRational < 1349297050 987113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fromIntegral < 1349297051 990226 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b. (Integral a, Num b) => a -> b < 1349297108 710384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while fromIntegral combines toInteger and fromInteger. so those two are the only ones you need for usual numeric "casts". < 1349297173 906938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> toRational (pi :: CReal) -- hm... < 1349297175 34100 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: CReal.toRational < 1349297183 925079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHEATING SCUM < 1349297208 32976 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's CReal? < 1349297227 938326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot's unbounded "real number" type < 1349297230 655514 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1349297237 206217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from some module on hackage < 1349297269 31951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> toRational (0.2 :: CReal) -- hm... < 1349297270 50857 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: CReal.toRational < 1349297284 980548 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-146-174-221.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349297472 76698 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> toRational pi < 1349297473 115308 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 884279719003555 % 281474976710656 < 1349297543 551032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 281474976710656 < 1349297544 553485 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 48.0 < 1349297572 26822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just converting the binary form of the Double to an exact Rational < 1349297593 584714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e1000000000000000 :: Double -- is this bug still there... < 1349297598 702232 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1349297598 897086 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1349297601 172290 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349297602 767295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep it is :P < 1349297647 662898 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e1000 < 1349297648 875959 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity < 1349297655 999681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it crashes instead of producing an Infinity value because it follows the haskell standard precisely and converts to an out-of-memory Rational first :) < 1349297712 891579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e1000 :: Rational < 1349297714 151678 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000... < 1349297825 187717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone recently made a ghc extension so 1e1000 can produce an Integral value < 1349297845 333262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1e1000 < 1349297846 421749 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t. (Fractional t) => t < 1349297856 130930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1e100000000000000000000000 --hm... < 1349297871 410920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thread killed < 1349297886 309186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh the expansion happens even before type checking < 1349298075 290175 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1349298097 50446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1e100000000000000000000000 --double checking that < 1349298112 338285 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thread killed < 1349298117 20454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1e1000 < 1349298120 648696 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t. (Fractional t) => t < 1349298174 955708 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa < 1349298235 479120 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e10))))))) < 1349298239 519712 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t t1 t2 t3 t4 t5 t6 t7. (Num (t -> t1), Num (t2 -> t), Num (t3 -> t2), Num (t4 -> t3), Num (t5 -> t4), Num (t6 -> t5), Num (t7 -> t6), Fractional t7) => t1 < 1349298251 861785 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e10)))))))) < 1349298253 812864 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `)' < 1349298258 718968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e < 1349298259 664105 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e10))))))) < 1349298263 297031 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349298263 491891 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349298266 981665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e < 1349298270 565441 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349298276 34806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1e < 1349298277 381659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t. (Num (Expr -> t)) => t < 1349298313 77171 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1349298319 718033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1 e < 1349298328 305263 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t. (Num (Expr -> t)) => t < 1349298348 853061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not actually parsed as one token < 1349298365 209648 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if there's a number after the e it gets parsed as a literal? < 1349298371 426288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1e1 < 1349298372 893576 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1 e 100 < 1349298379 894408 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t. (Fractional t) => t < 1349298380 89986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t t1. (Num (t1 -> t), Num t1) => t < 1349298490 285081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell has a general greedy lexing rule, although i think there are corner cases ghc gets "wrong" (that no sane person will use) < 1349298525 30918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Just.if True then 1 else 2 < 1349298529 454391 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `then' < 1349298547 731528 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (e) 1 2 < 1349298551 861427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349298555 261695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that should technically notice that if is a keyword < 1349298568 852855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> e 1 2 < 1349298570 509416 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `t1 -> t2 -> t' < 1349298570 704147 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type ... < 1349298571 760666 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1349298601 758953 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambdabot seems to do e differently < 1349298608 58076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1349298613 397015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t e < 1349298615 604393 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr < 1349298620 57122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> a+b+c+d+e < 1349298623 544158 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a + b + c + d + e < 1349298661 406063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a primitive symbolic expression type which all letters are defined as < 1349298694 235876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> f+g+h < 1349298697 724204 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `a' in the constraints: < 1349298697 919249 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `GHC.Num.Num a' < 1349298697 919441 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ari... < 1349298706 265762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except those < 1349298711 123995 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> f+g+h :: Expr < 1349298713 529722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : f + g + h < 1349298729 478622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (f+g+h) (i+j+k) :: Expr < 1349298731 863658 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : f (i + j + k) + g (i + j + k) + h (i + j + k) < 1349298737 324038 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349298740 452094 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1349298770 216380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it also has its weird numeric instances for functions, which combines nicely with that < 1349298822 630302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are so many additions it gets confusing. < 1349298869 770442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e10))))))) < 1349298874 600618 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349298886 302249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really don't understand why that times out < 1349298905 269373 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e(1) < 1349298911 743682 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1349298911 938191 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1349298960 694107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 e 1 < 1349298964 484273 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349298965 25642 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghci fails on anything that doesn't follow the somethingesomething format < 1349298987 13726 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349298990 746813 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, together, no spaces, and no brackets for the somethings < 1349299014 672856 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the somethingsomething format < 1349299019 65911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yes. because it will parse 1e1 as 1 e1 and if you haven't defined e1... < 1349299026 796866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1349299040 358843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean 1esomethingnot1 < 1349299054 222129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1 e 1 < 1349299061 282984 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :1e gets parsed as a 1 and then an e < 1349299061 983262 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t t1. (Num (t1 -> t), Num t1) => t < 1349299107 726782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 e 1 :: Integer < 1349299114 353106 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1349299114 547582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1349299123 115339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is weird < 1349299132 340499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> 1 x < 1349299138 802376 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromIntegral (1 e 1) :: Integer < 1349299142 755352 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t t1. (Num (t -> t1)) => t -> t1 < 1349299143 307577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349299160 531584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 2 < 1349299164 326722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349299178 79067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think lambdabot may simply be overworked < 1349299187 760573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 1 2 :: Integer < 1349299190 136590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integer < 1349299196 762972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 2 :: Integer < 1349299198 714327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349299205 169561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 2 < 1349299207 632564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349299213 894731 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromIntegral (1 e 1) :: Integer < 1349299216 398773 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349299220 322935 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's overwork it again! < 1349299223 263398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e10))))))) :: Integer < 1349299224 561877 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349299227 989255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1349299235 93583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e10))))))) < 1349299236 305928 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349299252 447236 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 e 1 < 1349299254 81253 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349299255 23264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally it worked < 1349299264 752461 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is 1 e 1 supposed to be 10? < 1349299300 94127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, 1e1 is < 1349299302 465351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e1 < 1349299306 989816 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349299308 783394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e1 < 1349299311 139237 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.0 < 1349299330 912374 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :1e1 was what I was thinking about, I just overspaced it a bit < 1349299378 626115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's equivalent to fromRationl (10%1) < 1349299383 506908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fromRational < 1349299416 520839 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, because all floating point literals go through fromRational? < 1349299459 764941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1349299615 569053 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e(1e(1e1)) < 1349299619 854041 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349299626 551037 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e(1e1) < 1349299630 414916 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349299634 330465 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e10 < 1349299636 678419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0e10 < 1349299642 469695 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheat =P < 1349299652 991471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: technically that should _never_ evaluate the part in parentheses. lambdabot is just generally overworked. < 1349299659 337144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e undefined < 1349299663 69413 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349299665 250830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1e undefined < 1349299666 723012 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349299667 643882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349299700 67872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a function, lambdabot's instances make 1 = const 1 < 1349299727 781460 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1) 1 < 1349299729 438029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pointwise arithmetic", is the term < 1349299729 632800 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349299744 65874 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t e < 1349299746 143519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr < 1349299776 478405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 (Just "floccinaucinihilipilification") < 1349299781 553917 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349299783 617975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 (Just "floccinaucinihilipilification") < 1349299784 767530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349299851 405208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix 1 < 1349299856 165013 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349299857 582120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix 1 < 1349299861 310652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1349299862 713892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix 1 < 1349299864 498701 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349299895 117701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone swat whoever is giving lambdabot fatigue for me < 1349299930 297320 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are responsible for the swattings in here < 1349300032 647659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're probably not in this channel! < 1349300048 85555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@channels < 1349300048 653593 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1349300070 982245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like everything else with lambdabot, there's a command which is impossible to remember the name of < 1349300159 596451 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is more than one... what's the name of the command that starts yhjul? < 1349300322 971453 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 < 1349300326 305124 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1349300352 95325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjul < 1349300352 328576 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\" < 1349300358 705113 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1349300364 357672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yh < 1349300364 561519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 'J' < 1349300368 142311 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real name is longer < 1349300368 608093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@y < 1349300368 803683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: yarr yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw yow . ? @ v < 1349300377 221348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tharr you go < 1349300386 105197 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1349300386 490253 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\" < 1349300391 883233 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah, hello again old friend < 1349300397 220598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix show < 1349300398 586713 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\... < 1349300414 567341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@c < 1349300414 762452 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: check choice-add choose clear-messages compose . ? @ rc v < 1349300423 671812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@w < 1349300423 866820 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: web1913 what where where+ wiki wn world02 . ? @ v < 1349300431 672027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where lambdabot < 1349300435 763018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where lambdabot < 1349300435 985853 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Lambdabot < 1349300446 294926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@s < 1349300446 489953 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: shootout show slap smack source spell spell-all src . ? @ v < 1349300455 580637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@shootout < 1349300455 775873 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@smack oerjan < 1349300455 776083 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all < 1349300455 970586 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go slap oerjan yourself < 1349300461 95327 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@shootout < 1349300461 289793 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all < 1349300486 147893 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix fix < 1349300487 579849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a = a -> a < 1349300488 746094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like something that should just have been in @where < 1349300508 443433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list shootout < 1349300508 638499 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dummy provides: eval choose id read show dummy bug get-shapr faq paste learn map shootout botsnack thanks thx thank you ping wiki oldwiki docs source fptools hackage googleit < 1349300519 950627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list list < 1349300520 231483 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: echo list listchans listmodules listservers uptime < 1349300523 658671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listchans < 1349300523 853578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :##freebsd ##logic ##math ##proggit ##villagegreen #agda #arch-haskell #codez #darcs #esoteric #fedora-haskell #friendly-coders #functionaljava #gentoo-haskell #gentoo-uy #ghc #happs #haskell # < 1349300524 48789 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell-blah #haskell-books #haskell-br #haskell-fr #haskell-freebsd #haskell-in-depth #haskell-overflow #haskell-pl #haskell.au #haskell.cz #haskell.de #haskell.dut #haskell.es #haskell.se #haskell. < 1349300524 48985 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tw #learnanycomputerlanguage #lesswrong #macosx #macosxdev #rosettacode #scala #scalaz #scannedinavian #snapframework #tanuki #teamunix #unicycling #uscs2010 #xmonad #yi weird# < 1349300534 337667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there it was < 1349300548 156869 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of chans < 1349300554 922298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1349300557 398525 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@get-shapr < 1349300557 592928 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr!! < 1349300576 483992 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the constant e in Haskell? < 1349300577 996358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr isn't even online < 1349300582 195428 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope this command works something like the bat signal < 1349300583 701084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp 1 -- sort of < 1349300585 125731 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.718281828459045 < 1349300592 348846 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349300619 874088 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1349300646 174941 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good enough < 1349300651 856450 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp 1 :: CReal < 1349300653 53683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.7182818284590452353602874713526624977572 < 1349300696 727619 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is CReal in < 1349300712 746162 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hackage numbers < 1349300712 941275 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/numbers < 1349300721 784260 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to be confused with Numbers < 1349300728 547181 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :which someone added to maximize confusion < 1349300942 363164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackage is case sensitive? :( < 1349300956 441276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, package names < 1349301032 387078 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers sure produces a lot of warnings when installed < 1349301538 625405 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is wolfram a unit? < 1349301582 775869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so, it's another name for the element tungsten < 1349301591 251876 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no.. and it will only be a unit for anything over my dead body) < 1349301608 461832 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1349301665 517473 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some say Wolfram is the unit of ego < 1349301669 948194 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol lol < 1349301691 406518 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> During the dinner discussion leading up to this definition the foreword to one of the Mathematica books was mentioned, where Stephen Wolfram (in third person) wrote "Stephen Wolfram is the creator of Mathematica and is widely regarded as the most important innovator in scientific and technical computing today." In honour of this self-assessment I suggest we call the unit of ego the Wolfram. < 1349301692 372519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `of' < 1349301735 178144 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory ego should be measurable right? < 1349301743 775591 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it i < 1349301745 712051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it is < 1349301755 524001 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wolfram is a rigorous system of ego < 1349301792 321907 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it needs to be related to other things before it becomes useful < 1349301805 452480 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quote was from the first hit, the second hit was http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=size+of+stephen+wolfram%27s+ego < 1349301818 392071 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1349301942 383207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION. USELESS CRAP. < 1349301947 868272 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1349301990 98023 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should say 1 Wolfram, but I suppose that kind of self-deprecating humor is incompatible with his ego < 1349302049 484256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they actually have these things in america http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/121002.html < 1349302078 463044 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao @ "http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=size+of+stephen+wolfram%27s+ego" < 1349302094 295447 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a funny url < 1349302145 414726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i just realized what to call the unit of obviousness, here. < 1349302161 942023 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's that? < 1349302173 600429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it starts with i and ends with s < 1349302190 304757 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it obvious? < 1349302201 137017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, obvious doesn't start with i. < 1349302208 508301 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1349302270 661261 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it :D < 1349302291 319197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it was sort of obvious. < 1349302333 180967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : but that starts with s! < 1349302340 5615 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if enough people used that query on wolfram whether it would show up in the wolfram offices < 1349302382 627279 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is conceivable that at least one of the quotes about units of ego have been forwarded < 1349302384 138061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the wolfram offices, wolfram's ego is the elephant in the room < 1349302509 145037 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the wolfram offices, it takes physical form and walks around in the shape of an elephant < 1349302558 196478 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stephen+ego Development of this topic is under investigation... < 1349302559 626816 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1349302564 976324 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm.. not sure what that means < 1349302565 178263 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram's ego is the office < 1349302583 311123 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're working for wolfram, you enter his ego every day from 9 til 5. < 1349302619 258757 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like that star trek episode where they think there's an entity helping a starbase, but it turns out the entity *is* the starbase < 1349302628 404295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think you ruined the joke. :( < 1349302638 501902 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1349302644 255630 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the joke? < 1349302662 501489 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: which episode was that < 1349302669 11958 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :barts: the first one < 1349302672 459090 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first tng one? < 1349302672 653839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pun on "elephant in the room" and the size of wolfram's ego < 1349302674 153935 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i know barts? < 1349302690 32232 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no man, they thought the entity was killing the base < 1349302708 29940 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was helping other entities of its kind which were the base < 1349302714 66633 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1349302725 88233 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were two entities < 1349302728 301371 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1349302732 845757 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also a colony < 1349302737 622214 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farpoint? < 1349302741 434522 :barts!~barts@p57AEA62E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1349302872 387471 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably other episodes with similar plots as well < 1349302897 912427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, no one answered my question of whether they really have these crazy things in america http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/121002.html < 1349302945 208041 :hagb4rd!~perdito@212.23.103.82 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349302945 701091 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :those 'muricans be crazy < 1349302959 372281 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they do < 1349302980 11299 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do < 1349303007 410555 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they arent that sharp though < 1349303034 154009 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :americans? < 1349303201 406093 :hagb4rd!~perdito@212.23.103.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349303208 354046 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :money > math < 1349303213 87963 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : :D < 1349303257 779175 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops.. i almost forgot the link i was reading wasn't posted in here < 1349303275 603291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "money" > "math" < 1349303276 664639 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1349303297 34465 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently wolfram's new kind of science recommends mathematica.. and someone is annoyed by it < 1349303301 677667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO IT'S SETTLED < 1349303393 36021 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think.. maybe he should see a psychologist < 1349303436 743713 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm not sure, but i dont think it's illegal to carry these around < 1349303439 813220 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bondorseals.com/more_info/cable_and_hose_bridges/cable_and_hose_bridges.htm < 1349303524 890849 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was young i had a remote control car with a kind of bridge it could lower under itself < 1349303569 944119 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget the idea < 1349303580 388726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't quite see the relevance < 1349303606 207541 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to place over those traffic bumps from the linked comic < 1349303630 926960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: ok, but that doesn't in any way detract from the bumps' insanity < 1349303637 828732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some of those flipping cars. < 1349303691 38498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a spring-loaded lever kind of thing that activates after a bit of travel, and makes the car jump and flip over and sometimes even land the right way up. < 1349303712 905465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly snap on your fingers when arming, or some other such thing. < 1349303738 565695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the point is americans are so crazy that you have to use these crazy things to prevent them from driving against one-way roads. < 1349303827 563253 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349303869 551335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the real point is americans are so crazy they _think_ other americans are that crazy. < 1349303886 224623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION meta-disappears ->
< 1349303902 192930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Aren't those things parking-lot-entrance related more than just generic one-way-street related? Not that I *know* anything. < 1349304096 864140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They installed one of those "giant metal pole rises up from the street" traffic control devices at the ends of a mostly-pedestrian street (vehicles that need access get a remote to lower it, and it auto-lowers if trying to exit the street); a day later it rose up when a taxi was right over it. < 1349304120 562057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they said it was some kind of a set-up bug that they fixed. < 1349304128 116484 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349304231 766771 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349304440 858353 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am more interested in the unsolicited humour than reality when i say there is no operation which satisfies x in the equation (> (x wolfram) (in mathematicians_wolfram_admires)) < 1349304472 899137 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1349304504 312247 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :except perhaps x = NOT < 1349304559 165280 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349304722 386041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: formulating mathematics in lisp syntax rarely works for humour, especially when it's utterly logically meaningless. < 1349304808 484791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and makes no sense as lisp either < 1349304922 848895 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i tried to say is really in bad taste < 1349304930 963514 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so im glad its meaningless < 1349304974 184649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all know what you meant < 1349305002 537196 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just put some brackets around it, we're not buzzing and giving off smoke < 1349305010 104254 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sorry < 1349305012 333609 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1349305036 273638 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349305047 884967 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it couldn't be more hypocritical, since obviously i needed quite an overinflated ego to say it, and also that i am a god awful mathematician < 1349305063 472075 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally i am also an awful integer < 1349305068 710789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no iti < 1349305075 413808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have the exact opposite of an inflated ego < 1349305097 871653 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to self deprecate to keep it down < 1349305138 124539 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus achieving an effect about as annoying < 1349305278 627892 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea i probably make it seem uncool to make fun of wolfram < 1349305336 305946 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i layed down and thought about it, i guess its just a business thing.. < 1349305487 317021 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :government:president::employees:employer::animators:director etc < 1349305902 142027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :analogies:bullshitter < 1349305913 615081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in _that_ mood today.
< 1349305961 550560 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mood where you finally ban iti for fuck's sake < 1349305966 296652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21:full of shit always < 1349305984 80982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i enjoy it tho < 1349305994 219757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let him have #esoteric-iti < 1349306002 289879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand what *he* gets out of it, but i enjoy it < 1349306009 648867 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it stands he spends too much time dragging down the discussion < 1349306034 13953 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun for a while and all but he's still making the channel that much worse by being here and he's clearly never going to change < 1349306070 406536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, i seem to have triggered Phantom_Hoover into _his_ mood. < 1349306147 630952 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349306155 954514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the self deprecation doesn't help < 1349306166 961691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one thing to occasionally overstep your knowledge and admit that you are doing so < 1349306174 335314 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wouldja like some popcorn? < 1349306196 724907 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349306213 755943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's another thing to say completely wrong worthless things all the time, with the stated knowledge that they are completely wrong < 1349306214 2631 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that if I'm doing badly at a game, and say how much I suck, I start doing better < 1349306251 556442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that basically amounts to admitting "i like the sound of my own voice and i don't care what you get out of it" < 1349306302 629761 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that I don't care < 1349306315 484879 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that sound is so nice and pleasant! < 1349306758 769984 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you had the restriction "for all loops, the current cell must be the same at the beginning of every iteration of that loop" to brainfuck, does it change tcness? < 1349306779 704951 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you told me it didn't, for 3-cell brainfuck, but do the proofs for the other forms of brainfuck still hold? < 1349306902 229401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: For bounded-cell-size unbounded-tape brainfuck, it vaguely sounds like that'd limit the amount of accessible memory to something that depends on the amount of >s in the program. < 1349306923 67013 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of course < 1349307022 447752 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's a confirmation that I'm too tired right now < 1349307041 356341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349307072 962688 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to prove that pbrain was tc even without the [ ] loops < 1349307131 757857 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and assuming the > didn't need to disobey that restriction I could've said it was obvious but I'll guess it'll need a little more work < 1349307148 863773 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so have a good night and see you guys < 1349307418 194780 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: that's dr. turing to you, punk < 1349307865 579313 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1349307946 14659 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Sleep